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If you say so
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I think it ties to the value exchange. For a man, sex costs nothing so we are not picky. But a relationship does cost us so we are very very picky there. With women its the opposite.
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And men would never relationship just like that so it evens out.
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No one is disagreeing with you there? (ofc in my generation gen Z thats kinda very different. But thats a topic for another day)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:53 PM
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Youre looking at this from a "omg! Ugly people are people too you bastard!" type of lens, I strictly logical here about the meaning of the phrase. I am not denying that ugly people are people. So I dont really see your issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:36 PM
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You switched from Germanic to white men in your comment as if its an interchangable term. you said "...men of color hit on me more than white men". No one mentioned white men to begin with. you also seem to be confused as to who is and isnt germanic. Germanic are all descendents of the Germanic Tribes. This includes way more than just Germany. Germany isnt the only descendant of the Germanic Tribes. So is Sweden for example. The Netherlands, the US by way of the British etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:33 PM
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Im beyond confused right now. What does this have to do with making myself feel better? The meaning of the phrase is the entire point of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:38 PM
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You cant just use the terms interchangibly. germanics may be white, but not all whites are germanic. Germanic men isnt synonymous with white men. Anyway, not all VS look their type. For example this Adriana, if its referring to what google showed to be Adriana Lima doesnt look like the typical VS. I am strictly referring to typical VS which is closer to that Giselle Bündchen. And the Global Phenomenon argument, that has more to do with American Soft Power than anything. Now there may be some sub…
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Those are all germanic dudes. France, Italy, Spain, The balkans, Latin America, Asia...the rest of the World, which is Non Germanic, still exists. The men you listed are a global minority. And i said already that the Viking Genes do allow such people to find that attractive for some reason. For the rest of us, its a no. Its just how it is. And yet some stats suggest married couples are very similar to each other. I think at this point its just case dependant. Germanic dudes will like blonds, the…
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what do you mean exactly?
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But we are talking about attraction and thus must be talking sexually remarkable. Any other reading of the word makes no sense. People with deformities are not sexually remarkable. There is no issue here whatsoever.
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Im fine with all pills except Black Pill. Which is why one has to be very rigorous. Cause if BP is true, the earlier you know, the better to adapt your future strategies. Are you up to date with that only fans girl who wants to sleep with 1000 dudes? her case helped me accept that, even for someone as perceptive as me, acting can go unnocited. Thus my question to you would be, how do you not know it was perfomative for association or gold digging reasons?
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there are lots of studies on hedonic adaption. But its effects on dating are a seperate discussion id say.
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That depends on how detail sensitive one is. I am an overall gist kind of person, so I would disagree here. Most people are detail sensitive, that is true, but the post was mainly for my understanding, and not general male understanding.
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Well from another commenter I think I can finally peace it all together: Unlike men, who due to testosterone can be indiscriminate, women need beyond the looks, also the dimorphic personality. (which for men is, being assertive, bold, in control, independent). Due to cultural misandrist messaging, some have chosen to use the words below average explicitly, even though the meant average. So I guess it all makes sense now. Mystery lifted. The Conclusion from this is that...as a man you can blow it…
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I wasnt calling that an exagerration, as that follows due to the lack of testosterone. Without testosterone, women cant just override the missing of the Dimorphic Personality like men can. However, how much of a difference is this really? I think of it as a detail.
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Thats an Exaggeration. Women and men share the same experiences except in areas of objective sex difference. Which is why the myth of the lower female sex drive is a myth.
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I mean to be fair, modernity is very pro Last Man. Comfort, lack of discipline, Comformity etc. So I can see female attraction being reduced due to this, and the fact that testosterone is not present like in men to undo the effects of that. Thus, imagine for a moment, there is a cultural revolution. A modern reneissance of sorts, and most men started to fulfill the dimorphic personality. As you have admitted yourself, "she’ll pick the cuter one. Sure." Thus. Its looks. This is why men say its lo…
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It means most people do not help others, or those things above wouldnt occur.
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Thats why there is homelessness, violence, women on women sabotage. Cause thats obviously not a rarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:28 PM
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Non relative Women never defended me in any way in my life ever, only my female relatives. Thus its only fair that only they get my protection and not some strange woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:26 PM
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Or you accept that non relative and non husband men arent your soldier slaves? Especially given that you wouldnt mind dude on dude violence.
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would you do the same if it was dude on dude violence? Or are only female victims important?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:19 PM
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what makes you think those men owe her protection? He should ask her male relatives, as they do owe her protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:17 PM
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How about the girl punches the guy and protects her bf? Gender roles are consructed after all
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There is no women are wonderful effect. Its a matriarchal society effect.
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/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:23 AM
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thats most definetly true. Bureaucracy or rather, the State, has just gotten too big and we are feeling the effects everywhere. From Rent, to Education, everything got worse and not better actually. Real wealth has been steadily decreasing once the Merchant Class killed the Chuch and the Aristocrats. People are distracted by consumerism to notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:54 PM
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I think a middle way is best, as was present during the 1500s. The State is not too centralized, and the culture is not too domesticated.
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The Unabomber tried that and discovered the state hates losing control. Nice try there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 10:20 AM
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How about you read the reply I was initially responding to before you replied for a start. Then we can talk
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 10:10 AM
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Unfair taxes caused the American Revolution dude. You think unfair taxes to give childless people retirement will go easy? Sure. Tell yourself that.
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You dont seem to grasp that im mocking your lack of context for what this conversation is about. You should read things next time
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Ok Mother Teresa. Sure.
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Nuns dont worry about being trapped
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Oke?
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Its by robots actually. Lots of manufacturing is done by robots nowadays. That sounds like a neglicence issue. Grown people pay attention and arent the babies of the gov. Besides...gov regulations....Lets not get into how gov redtape destroyes everything. From the Housing market to the job market...to everything. Im not following...what about male sex dimorphism? Women can be farmers too. Grandma worked alongside grandpa on the fields. I was there watching it.
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You do not pay for your retirement. As it is the taxes of the Children you didnt have, the Children of others, that pays for it. Youre a thief if you want retirement.
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You wanting to be a thief and exploit the taxes of others Children is what is unjust.
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Just. the rest of us thieving from the children of others is unjust. So only they get it, we wont. Thats the only way this can be resolved. Who has no children, will never retire. No settling, no economic collapse, win win.
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I use all caps cause many of yall have reading comprehension issues. its like with Children. And you understood it and yet keep babbling nonsense. kinda shows youre in it to get triggered and win reddit points. Which is pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:15 PM
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And another non sequitor. Like do you think reading is optional or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:12 PM
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Pretend. Yup. And Im Superman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:10 PM
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Lemme state it in no uncertain terms for you: Settling is not the right move. Society does not deserve men to live miserable lives by being settled for. Thus the only actual solution to this issue(since retirement is a real thing you know lol), is for retirement to only apply to couples with children. The rest of us will work till we die. Thats all im saying. Your emotional mumbo jumbo however idk what that is , but keep that away from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:06 PM
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assuming what a bunch of redditors think of me matters to me is a grave mistake. That was a good joke lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:02 PM
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Nope. Youre not reading cause you want to get triggered. Nothing you said has anything to do with what im saying. If you read to understand, you would know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:01 PM
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yes, but we are discussing something else here.
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Cause you want to project that unto Einstein. Words have definitions. But anyway, I got all gifted individuals in history, and you got some academic average intelligent people. Thus my argument stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:58 PM
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If you dont know what a simple word like masochist means, then...yikes...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:56 PM
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Settling means being sexually penetrated by a man you cant stand. Bro..do you just read to get triggered or what? Lol. Like read the sentence again. This time slowly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:55 PM
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Your masochists dont prove anything lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:52 PM
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You realize retierment NEEDS young people to pay taxes? Now how do these get born? Magic? The male mind is just fine. Yours however is non sequitur on sterioids. like I could not care any less for this gender bs. I do not care about any of this. Im literally arguing pragmatic talking points here. Yalls gender wars are none of my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:41 PM
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You got that wrong. Most psychologically abused men who have to work on their internal world a lot have admitted such a thing. Like who, that is normal, would want to have some chick treat him like shit cause she had to settle for someone she doesnt want? that is not psychologically healthy. Thats masochism at its core.
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Yes. And ofc, those women and men who dont have children must work till they die because ONLY people with children can retire. As is just. Now, I personally DO NOT accept the pragmatic solution here, which is settling. Society does not deserve men to live miserable lives with women who cant stand them just to survive.
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From Al Kwarizmi, to Newton, to Einstein and Tesla, everyone despised established Academia(due to reasons that are many and quite despicable). Do you honestly think that your academic circles will have the correct population in them in order to draw a correct conclusion?
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The solution is simple tho. All old people who had no children, must work till death. That way women dont have to settle and make the lives of men miserable. Its a win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:23 PM
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People can still not want to be settled for and complain about the situation without advocating for settling.
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Which men are happier married? the 99th percentile?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:04 PM
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thats actually false. Both the retarded and the gifted are religious. Irreligiousity is common among average people the most.
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You sound awesome. Your Husband is a lucky man.
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in which world do you believe this to have happened? Feministan?
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Mad? Not at all. Fragile egos get riled up, and that’s why they falter as speakers. If you were Moses, I’d care to get flustered, but... you’re not. So why would I be? Hecklers don’t even register as noteworthy to me at this point. And arent you being a heckler atm, Martian girl?
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A girl dismissed my public speaking with, ‘approaching girls is different,’ as if it’s some mystical art. That’s all there is to the inspiration for the post. If you see hidden meaning in my words, that’s on you. It’s almost endearing to think there’s a deeper scheme in something so plain and straighforward.
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it seems my Post wasnt graced with clarity, But let’s set the record straight: I’m posing a very specific question. Just that. Nothing more. Nothing less. Not approaching is chill....why on earth would I ever advocate for a ‘return to approach’?
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Well fair enough if it wasnt. But...I dont care. Not approaching is chill, the hassle aint worth it especially since being alone is the reality for most dudes and we are used to it. Like why would we(my generation gen z specifically) approach? To flatter some chicks with attention or what?
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Thats a very specific question im asking. Nowhere is it either implied, or said that apporaches should return. Women need to start approaching is my take on that. Why should we do ourselves the hassle lol.
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Where do I say that?
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Dude, my social media skills are dogshit. You trippin.
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my generation Gen Z has ditched that whole ‘approach’ game ages ago. Seriously, get with the times. You’re acting like a total boomer trying to keep up.
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Some people are just stuck in the past.
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Nice strawman. Will you decorate it with some gaslighting as well? Lol. Lemme put it in the simplest terms: Aint got no one time to waste with approaches, especially since there is a small chance of some fragile ego woman ruining your life. Why the hassle? For some chick? Sure. A chick is worth wasting time for nothing...Definetly.
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Your ego is off the charts. Do you think approaching women is something magical or something? No wonder your friends dont trust you.
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So...Make it make sense. Its routine to me to approach just about anyone by now... I feel calm. Im not sweating...my voice is stable..And I can clearly contrast this to my first times speaking in public and can regonize when im anxious so...where is this anxiety? I think it should be obvious to you by now that youre coping.
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I have no anxiety tho. Im an excellent public speaker, told to be charismatic, multilingual and more. Why would I be anxious? Like im telling you the reason upfront and you ignore it.
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Would you go alone at night if the risk of rape is small? Thought so. Hypocrite. And its unfortunate that your friends dont trust you to be honest with you. Maybe work on your empathy and they might.
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My friend almost got kicked out of school because some girl, who didn’t like him, accused him of sexual harassment. He never touched her—I was there. She just ‘felt’ uncomfortable. It took a lot of effort to clear that up and he barely managed to graduate. And you keep dismissing this as if most of us haven’t experienced something similar. We aren’t your sacrificial shields. If you want to be approached, change the laws. The ball is in your court. We’re done caring. Ask your other male friends i…
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Not my point at all actually. "Millions of men approach millions of women in this world" Reality: Why are men not approaching anymore? Why would we do ourselves the risk of losing job, reputation damage, possibly jail etc etc, to date? It only takes ONE egotistical chick to ruin us. Just one. Thanks for proving that you have absolutely no and exactly 0 understanding about the risks men face today, and that you, like his supposed friends, just want to shut the guy up, possibly getting annoyed tha…
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I repeat, Now if they asked and the person they knew wasn't interested...why would they assume some random chick would be? What believable reason is there for someone to think that? Dude, yall know how yall think better than me, stop the virtue signalling, no one is buying it in 2024. How do yall expect anyone with at least a modicum of social skills to believe what youre saying? Clearly its most likely an attempt to shut him up due to getting annoyed and/or not even understanding the repurcussi…
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Given the current trends , of course they have single friends to introduce him to. Singledom is massively on the rise. Now if they asked and the person wasn't interested...why would they assume some random chick would be? It's obvious she would not be. It's clear then that these so called friends had ulterior motives. Perhaps sadism or just some uncaring attempt to shut him up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:49 AM
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If they really thought that they'd introduce him to someone they know instead of a random chick who might call the police.
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/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 01:59 PM
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2.1 is the generally accepted replacemnt value. 2.1 Now try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:13 PM
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Youre the guy with the outdated data dude. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 05:12 PM
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Which is the point of my post all seem to ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:12 PM
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yeah, by 0,1 points. Wow, such a huge difference. Like come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 03:07 PM
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Evidence is slow to be gathered. Youre just behind and have outdated takes. I mean, you can be naive about it and wait till the evidence comes, no one is stopping you. Just remember this conversation when that happens and that youre way too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:05 PM
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"Israel is forum's only member state reproducing above replacement rate; report cites high Haredi rate, but even among secular population it is higher than in any other OECD country" uhm...Impulsive much?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:04 AM
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Yeah, the trend is that Afd will be the majority with time. You may cope, but thats not changing. So think a lil more future oriented before you claim the voters are a minority. Thats not healthy skepsis youre doing there, its denial. I know because Im part of the generation who would typically vote for them. And I dont because I know they wont do jack. Bust most of my generation dont know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 11:02 AM
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I don't see how what I said and what you said is mutually exclusive. And Afd women are most definitely a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:05 AM
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I don't see how what I said and what you said is mutually exclusive. And Afd women are most definitely a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 10:05 AM
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Why would they have to help? Their votes are just a big fuck you to the establishment. It's an emotional phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:38 AM
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Dude, are you obsessed with me or something? Like being this clingy is too much. And weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:26 AM
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Thats theoretical. In practice its women chasing fitter men who attract them and getting used and complaining. Like...dude, the guy wanted a release. He didnt want you, he wanted a release. You didnt vibe, he wanted a release. Its all in yo head, men have a choice too, you liking a man means jack if he doesnt like you. Some chick wrote that man should be forced to have children with a woman. Like bro...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:43 PM
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The only preference is the looks. Ive seen some wimpy hot guys do just fine. I dont even get what youre trying to say with that. There is no fittest man. If I beat up all the guys, am I the fittest man? And when someone beats me...are they? But, what if they jumped me with their cousin? Are they not? Like there is no such thing. There are fit men, there are no fittest men. And being kind, when unmeasured and naively executed, is a red flag. So I dont get why you bring that up as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:17 PM
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Let me take a different example then. Why arent yall drooling over Kratos? Kratos ist STRONK. Likde dude, stop it . Testosterone makes men ugly. And strong. however, sometimes, once a specific ratio of it is achieved, it makes them look good. None to do with strength dude. Like ive seen many a pretty boy get stomped. Neither mental, nor phsyical, nor any type of strength makes a man attractive. Its all just the looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:02 PM
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The woman who have a strength fetish give a man who is ghoulish and ugly "biological success" in the evolutionary sense by giving him the womb. It makes sense in how evolutionary psychs use their weird language. I dont see the issue. Its just weird jargon.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:48 PM
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The mods deleted the comments. If you didnt say that, then good. After being strawmaned this entire thread, I understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:26 PM
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Sure. But thats a difference instance all together to the one he and I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:22 PM
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Asked how they got women? No, I asked how come you site strongest men or whatever, and ignore that the strongest men are almost always ghoulish and ugly. Why are yall not drooling over Napoleon? cause hes not pretty. Thats it. NOTHING to do with "oh women are attracted to the the strongest man". its all just appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:21 PM
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And im explaining to you why he holds the "withholds" position. Its cause hes referencing a manipulative instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:17 PM
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Dude, like you realize how ugly warlords were? They were the strongest. Yet they would get 0 matches on Tinder. Napoleon was no chad...Ceasar was no chad...the list goes on. I thought women liked hot guys, not strong guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:56 PM
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The way things are going, I think the red pillers will win and teleport us to the stone age. Like these people are literally giving them plus points at every possible opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:46 PM
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How else would she manipulate the fool? With candy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:16 PM
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Men arent leaders. Individuals are leaders. And the rest, men and women and children, follow. As it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:15 PM
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Cause she married a guy she didnt even like and is playing her cards?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:14 PM
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Preach. They really tell themsevles that mens choice in the matter doesnt matter as if were shopping items.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:07 PM
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Read the newest version of the post. Not what I was saying at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:53 PM
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All im gettin is : me too stupid and lazy. Well...what do I care? Like go do brain exercises or something idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:22 PM
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You should like...you know...google it and understand the connection im making and why...and then respond? Like im not doing this with yall anymore. You people will step it up and understand first and speak second. All of you. Im tired of yalls nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:05 PM
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What a suprise. Look at who is here. And is...actually sort of addressing the point for once. Wow. I will only say it all boils down to paradox of choice which is a documented psychological phenomenon. But that I had to tell chatgpt to simplify it for an 8 year old to understand is really, really sad. Yall need to step it up. Why should I have to simplify my speech? Like ok, chatgpt can do it for me now, but, that wont always be convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:58 PM
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perfect price in case of the landlord* perfect prince for the woman, and perfect expert willing to work for peanuts for the company. No contradiction at all. Of course its nothing new. But that doesnt make what I said untrue. I am telling you that this is the reason for the shift to the right, and youre saying the stuff thats needed to make the shift to the right accelerate even more. Like its not being outcompeted. The system, the incentive structure is just awful. Things have to change. Period…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:51 PM
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You forget the second part. The subjects must also be convinced of it. The Internet fulfills the second condition rather easily, many of those studies dont. I will also add another point. In Popular Culture, the frustration we experience due to the phenomenon caused by the illusion of choice outlined above, is blamed on migrants. In Germany, the Afd is growing in popularity because of it and that is also the reason for the shift to the right we see. And guess who the most avid afd voters are, ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:09 PM
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Self Reports Studies are acceptable if they are collected under ANONYMOUS conditions. Where the subjects are also convinced they are anonymous. IF you have any such studies ( I have all the tons of anynmous internet self reports for example), then I will concede the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 03:56 PM
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You mean self report studies? Yeah.... I mean, lets assume its the small sample size ok. Complaints like these come...often in all three directions. Rent, Jobs, Dating....If everyone just so happens to complain of the same thing...its indicative of a trend. Not self report studies. Self report studies can be polished as much as they can, the inhrernt methodology is just unreliable. I mean...fair point. I dont have stats on all the law students. Fair point. No I know, and we have talked about it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:11 AM
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What makes you say its by choice? Those stats are what was UNTIL now. I dont see it as true. I used to study Law, which had plenty of women in it. And still the majority of the people there, were single. So its not a matter of environment. Well sure, that I dont deny. But...why are my friends and other people I know still single then? Even though they dont want it to be so. They dont have my issues. Theyre normal, unlike me. Heck, I would be normal looking in a room of 30 year olds too. I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:30 AM
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I mean once AI gets advanced enough, you can modernize his photos and see for yourself how no one would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:17 AM
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Who's a Polish immigrant? That bit is confusing? I used to buy into that but it also starts to fall apart. Most of people in my generation are single. Normal looking people. Not some obese neckbeards. Normal and well adjusted people. The ones I know who do have gf, did so because they had a wide enough social circle, which among my generation is getting very rare. Like the argument doesn't hold up to scrutiny. It has nothing to do with being unnatractive but with not being some perfect ideal. Ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:12 AM
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You think Brad Pitt would need his photos modernized if he was in Bundys place?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:08 AM
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Don't you have some hot guys to bother? Like go bother them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:06 AM
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Facepalm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:54 AM
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It's so obvious to me that it's due to lack of understanding that you saying that is very hard to take seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:53 AM
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Bro, my sisters think he's ugly. And so do female friends I have and most women my generation. Like you've literally PROVEN my point. You realize that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:51 AM
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I think I'll get chatgpt to dumb it down once I get the time. Like I should have done that at the statt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:50 AM
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Your experience as a non gen Z is so different, you think things haven't changed. But from our experience it's clear as day that it's very very tough out there. Like that alone should be saying something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:49 AM
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Do you not realize those are all names of men who would under natural conditions remain names without a picture ? Like of course the local handsome would seem meh in comparison when you can look at Michael Jackson and the like. That's the actual point of the whole thing bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:45 AM
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Ted Busy would be called ugly by my generation Gen Z is the whole point. Like dude... tired of this bad debate practice y'all have. Read the actual points or don't respond. It's not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:37 AM
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If what people picture under handsome is different then your point is moot to make. Using emojis and acting arrogant doesn't make you right. Like learn some debate etticette and think about what you're saying. Think about how realistic of a point it is. Back in the day , handsome was the local handsome today it's Brad Pitt and the like. And you seem to want I deny just how much of a severe female erectile dysfunction y'all have lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:34 AM
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Those same women called Ted Bundy handsome and you think you got yourself some gotcha. Bro. Their idea of handsome was more natural than yours. Accept it. You have erectile dysfunction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:11 AM
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The magazine doesn't contradict my point else I would have said something. And then she calls me dense. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:08 AM
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Natural conditions are no use of social medias, porn and the like. Stop acting dense on purpose. You're not scoring any points with that. Artificial conditions , are the presence of said unnatural things such as instagrams, porn and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:05 AM
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What a vulgar peasant
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:56 AM
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I would refrain from using any stats that haven't been made at least from 2025. Stats are slow. The needed stats have yet to be conducted. Most of Gen Z is single. Like I'm starting to understand why they keep saying men are obsessed with us. Why do you focus on "gilrfriend"? Explain that to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:37 AM
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What I'm trying y'all to get to understand is, the "not enthusiastic" part was NOT like this before. Sure people were picky. But back then Ted Bundy was called handsome. Ted freaking Bundy. Women's attraction has been artificially ruined. None of this is healthy or normal. It never happened this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:33 AM
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The level occurring when it's not artificially raised gets to determine it. Aka NATURAL conditions. If you want to empirically observe it, go and observe people who don't use social media and the like and you'll be able to observe it. Like you're coping hard dude. Hiding behind a fundamental misunderstanding of biology doesn't make you right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:27 AM
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Like women used to think Ted bundy was handsome. Thats how different natural pickiness and taste is compared to today. Yall essentially have erectile dysfunction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 11:02 PM
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Natural pickiness and what happens nowadays are miles apart bro. Like stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:57 PM
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"she is better off single" i mean...sure, for the limited period of a couple of years. But then you realize that you actually want someone...and youll die alone in a nursing home. Some cope with this by getting sperm donors. Some do it another way. None of that is healthy and normal. Like the argument of the women here is that women have been prostituting themselves to men, hate most men, would hate their life if they have to deal with the men in their vicinity...and so on and so on. Thats not o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:55 PM
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I mean, its not like technology completely threw all natural algorithms out of balance and the system is essentially experiencing bugs. Nope. I cant deal with it. Sure brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:42 PM
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Like this phenomenon is psychological, not gender tied. It doesnt matter what it is, all boards need to go. Dating or job. Everyone needs to see the real options they have in reality. And it not happening will be catastrophic. The Red Pill people will blame it all on women and migrants, and just catapult us to the stne age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:27 PM
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And another strawman. Like so far, only one woman actually engaged with the point. Thats a real queen right threre.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:25 PM
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Someone actually engaging with the point for once. Yeah, I agree. We agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:24 PM
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3, 5, and a correction of 4. into: When provided with endless option, PEOPLE, dont choose and just chase the clouds. Those are the only points made. And so far, no one has actually addressed anything and it all boils down to "oh you saying women are breeding cattle and want to distribute the pussy". like bro. What the actual fuck. The point is, endless options arent normal for the human brain, we need to remove the triggers(indeed, Linkedinn, instagram) and have biology take its course NATURALLY…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:20 PM
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Well they have to be removed. Japanese Ghost towns are the future globally(except in Israel) otherwise. Indeed, instagran, Linkedin...all of that hast to vanish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:09 PM
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Who cares about that stuff dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:08 PM
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But by definition thats not the statistical majority. Most times its looking down upon the options in search of nebulous things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:06 PM
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I meant more the attitude. I am not advocating for prostituttion. thats the thing...None of that makes any sense. Its not normal to hate most men and want only a minority. None of it actually makes sense. Unless its the illusion of choice as I propse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:02 PM
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Yeah, like thats what im saying. Many of the people here are really misandrist and toxic. Those weird "no one owes you anything" people. Dude, you pay taxes for a reason, societies dont work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:45 PM
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Youre confused cause you strawman all the time. Of course youd be confused. Why dont you actually ask instead of assuming. You speak for yourself. Read the Room of this thread, more like the mood of all the misandrists who seem to imply that most men are garbage and that women would hate their lives if dating apps were no more a thing cause they would have to now spend time looking at the rest of men in their actual vicinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:40 PM
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Society is getting isolated. Most try to meet online. Its not bots, thats cope. But its more men than women thats true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:33 PM
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Its an answer since the apps aint collapsing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:31 PM
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"women..women women..." Actual content: What im saying is that under NORMAL circumstances, you see who you like, and who likes you back. Those are your ACTUAL options to pick from. The Illlusion of choice however, leads you to ignore them, even if you like them(be it candidate, partner, or renting person) for the "better option" out there, which will never come. Thus, leading to the phenomenon described above. People ignore choices they would otherwise be happy with, for a drug essentially. Stra…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:30 PM
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Typos happen Lord Voldermort.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:28 PM
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I am telling you that we can wan to be with a woman who loves us and love her genuinely and also want it all at the same time. Its not mutually exclusive for us is what im saying. Your womansplaining is toxic dude. And so are your assumptions that we would default to dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:25 PM
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No one is dragged anywhere. Yall keep reinforcing the stereotype of women deflecting to shame when losing. Good for you I guess. Stay toxic queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:23 PM
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Liberal, non religious jews have 2.5 nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:20 PM
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"your interpretation is irrelevant" not how you have a conversation hun. Why yall toxic on here? If you want to hate on men go in female dating strategy or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:19 PM
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Propagande aint facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:18 PM
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israel disagrees. Not buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:14 PM
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No, all I said was, dating apps give the illuson of choice and make people ignore the people they like now, for some nebulous perfect match a swipe away. And that removing them is a good thing. You said what you said in response. Implying that yall hate most men, cause its most men you have to deall with when there is no dating apps to distract. None of this is a me problem stop dodging the issue. Its not normal to hate most men bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:12 PM
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A peasant. A prince had to follow the Laws of Intrigue, make sure he wasnt disrespected, make sure his rivals didnt get the throne, make sure the nobles stay loyal...and so on and so on. The Peasant just lived his life as free as it was possible bck then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:09 PM
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Of course we do. The days of us being tied to old gender roles and women being free from them is over and done.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:57 PM
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Thats not what you said dude. You said "Cope is waking up to a someone you don’t even want to breathe near and convincing yourself it’s ideal for the greater good of society" implying that yall hate most men. Thats not healthy or normal dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:56 PM
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Why would that be mutually exclusive? Like you womansplaining being a man to me hard right now. Why would our hypothetical example have one when he could have all? Build a life sure, but...why do that at that point? Why not wait till you think those 2000 are now gone?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:54 PM
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Strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:48 PM
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And another one saying that women were essentially prostitutting themselves all this time. I dont buy that bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:45 PM
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Old freedom? Sure, my dad slaving away all his life to live up to his responsibilities was free! I dont buy that argument anymore either. Are you suggesting that most women, for most of historiy, essentially prostituted themselves and now that they dont have to do it, wont? That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:41 PM
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Choice means its reciprocal. Which is why the apartments stay empty. Nope. Men with good looks have choice to bang an average chirck or too they dont like, its true. Not a choice. The actual women they want are very different to their so called "choice". Monopolies are not about winners and losers, but about bad market practices. A realistic policy solution is to scrap indeed, dating apps and similar things that contribute to the illusion of choice. No one wants to go back to 1500s lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:39 PM
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Rent going up because landlords are too indecisive in picking them best tenant is a funny take. Which is why its not my take. You havent even taken me at my point at all. How can you then not take me seriously? Just your nebulous idea of some tone and points I never made.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:34 PM
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Modernity changed all. Especially men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:22 PM
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Youre an introvert and thus statistically a minority, I mean I am too but still a minority. Most people dont enjoy doing stuff alone. Well thats a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:21 PM
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Yeah.. Very convincing. No one said that That makes no sense. Ok, so women hate men as a gender with the exception of a couple dudes? Yeah right...Sure. Sounds very plausible and normal to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:18 PM
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No one is making fun of my post. And Im not mad. Why would I be mad? Harms productivity fairly quicly. Everyone knows this. Economical benefit is small af. Landlords, get hundreds of applications as well. Why do you think that rent is skyrocketing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:14 PM
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"We know it sucks ...but we try some techniques to clean up so believe us?" Yeah...how convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:11 PM
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No you ditch your friends for the ounce of attention some hot guy gives you get real bro. Stop the holier than thou.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:06 PM
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Companies are mostly dudes. What will you say now? Youre so focused on the gender war that you ignore the point im making. You dont think that either of the entities are looking for a perfect fit, but they in fact are. Its not economical to leave a job position empty that your team NEEDS filled for example, or to leave apartments empty just for the hell of it. Its not a rational decision, but an emotional one due to the illusion of choice. Stop the cope. Ecnomics is psychological mostly. Its not…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:03 PM
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No, self reporting exaggerates due to shame. Its much much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:00 PM
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Thats their choice? Thats litterally a psycholgical entrapment that would have anyone react the same, and youre calling it choice? Is it a choice if I offer rotten fish to a starving man and he eats it? Or was it the psychological entrapment of the situation? Its self sabotage bro. cause its not sustainable. Stop the cope. "no one cares what you want" not how you run a society hun. Thats nonsenscial toxic bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:59 PM
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Settling would endanger child development by creating a toxic environment. Stop the cope dude. That makes no sense. It makes, zero sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:55 PM
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Its not, groups are meant to follow the narrative. Otherwise social cohesion would not be possible
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:52 PM
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Social engieneering is a thing. The King used to hate consumerism cause it threatened his power for example, so he socially engineered an anti consumerist society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:44 PM
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Without women the apps would collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:43 PM
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Will you continue to think youre the center of the universe, or engage with the point Im actually making?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:41 PM
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Nah bro, we are less hoey than yall actually. Its kinda ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:39 PM
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Read the edit. I suck at writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:38 PM
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Ofc not. How could it be. They are our friends and are definetly not the ones benefiting from consumerism the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:37 PM
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And I can reject engaging with ad hominems and strawmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:28 PM
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Analogies are usually rhetorical devices, I am not citing these things as a rhetorical device in the usual manner of analogies. What should Psh mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:27 PM
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Dude, spare me your patriarchal blue pill stuff. my generation, genz, rejects your hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:26 PM
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The environment is a psychological trap. You will fall victim to the Illusion of choice, whether you like it or not. Its not voluntary. Thats not how human psychology works.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:24 PM
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You seen the stats on my generation gen Z? That stuff is abnormal. Normally single, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:23 PM
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Ahm.... Dude, Im not making any analogies what do you mean? Like this stuff actually happens. You ever sent job applications before in our current era 2024? Gen Z. Well ofc not, theyre very few to begin with. But the rising HIV seems to be indicating that its actually quite a big one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:22 PM
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Well give one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:19 PM
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You need to give that money back. get your own. Thief.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:18 PM
2

thats not the definition of chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:16 PM
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Look, as long as you work till 1005 and do not expect me to pay taxes for your old childless ass to retire, go slay queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:15 PM
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No you cant read bro. Like, read the post before commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:13 PM
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Well yes, the merchant class in our case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:10 PM
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Dude what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:10 PM
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you can google ANY dating stats on the planet. Moot. Moot. This isnt also a complaint for companies in a signifcant sense otherwise they would rapidly hire. I already explained that empty apartments, empty job positions, and single women are the thing that ends up happening. Uhm...Single women are...at least in my generation...the majority? What proof do you want more than that. Except for the unfortunate who are unknowingly dating the same dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:08 PM
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What does horny have to do with that bruh? Like, you can take care of business pretty fast as a guy. You doing this on purpose for cheap points or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:06 PM
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The people historically going to wars were the fittest lol. Its only recent stuff that just anyone can grab a rifle and call himself soldier.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:04 PM
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Science minded folk right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:03 PM
0

Maybe in your generation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:03 PM
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Chad is the looks. Thats all its is. Just a hot guy. Leaders have the spirit. Not the looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:02 PM
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men aint socially lonely. What was your point? I have my bros and we can go and do shenanigans at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:59 PM
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They not. its all modern. Its...all modernity caused.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:59 PM
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Its simple economics. Do you want a proof by contradiciton perhaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:58 PM
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Dude, thats...gross bro. Like I get alabama porn is popular but damn... You need to stop watching that stuff. Its messing with your brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:57 PM
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Chad...the Übermensch? Sure. Some hot guy fucking cause genetic lottery is..the embodiment of the will to power. Dude, it aint tthat deep man. Napoleon was no chad. There, your entire theory is disproven.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:56 PM
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Because ITS NOT AN OPTION. Option means THEY TOO WANT IT. The expert does NOT WANT to work for the average company. The Aristocrat does NOT WANT to rent the average apartment. Hot guys DO NOT WANT average chicks. Thats the actuall isues. Yall aint getting jack. And yall are ignoring the options you also like, and like you back, for the perfect that is better than that and will never come. Its not "unfair" its self sabotage lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:54 PM
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Since men OUTNUMBER women on dating apps, women who get LOTS AND LOTS, lots squared of swipes are the male equivalent yes. We think we are dating like that but we arent. The stories of "omg, my friends bf is this and that and bla bla" and "this guys gf has a better back" that you hear are never ending for a reason. Accept how we function, its healthy and liberating. Uhmmm"where are all the goodmen" "no one wants to work" "people are awful when I rent" etc etc. Explain this? Doesnt this come from…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:51 PM
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True. Which is what all these "oh women have choice is the problem" dont get. Everyone on the demand side would do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:46 PM
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Perhaps indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:43 PM
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I dont buy these arguments anymore. I dont believe that women go through life finding ALL dudes unnatractive or whatever. I just dont. It makes no sense. Neither do I buy the whole "15 % of men got all the gals". Families require both sides to invest, and ALSO the community and extended family. the 15% nonsene would fracture things. So both are bogus. I believe, as i said, the Illusion of choice, leads the demand side, to ignore reasonable people they ARE attracted to cause...perfect is a swipe …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:40 PM
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Now that was funny lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:37 PM
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Youre with A husband because humans are social beings first. The rest is not really what I am even talking about. You mean lonely and looking at couples wishing it was you? Wow, how awesome. Im jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:36 PM
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If I look at his tinder and he gets lots of swipes, hes an ultra hot guy. Easy to empirically verify. The female collective determines male attrativeness, the male collective determines female attractiveness. deal with it. I have. See above. Nope. Not convincing at all. More like..."but I want him to want me" Yeah. I had a crush too... A crush is not an option since they dont like you back. The only actual options are the ones you like, who also like you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:34 PM
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No, but I do think reading comprehension should be equally distributed to all humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:31 PM
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Sure....Mhm. You definetly read what I said there. Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:30 PM
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They have. ITs true. Never claimed to defend that. So I dont see why you bring it up? Well let me define the ILLUSION of choice then: The Illusion of choice is the voice that keeps saying to you "maybe there is someone better a swipe away" and leads to an endlless cycle of chasing what one cannot have. Because, the ACTUAL choise also wants you back. So, your ACTUAL pool of people is those that you LIKE but who ALSO like you back. And the Illusion of choice makes you think the second half of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:28 PM
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That stuff happens. It wasnt an analogy at ALL. And No. If it were an analogy it would be: World renowned expert == Ultra hot guy. Average company == average girl 30k salary == her average body and personality. You cant honestly mean to tell me that this is subjective..I think youre just being not genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:22 PM
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Group? This is an issue of CULTURE. All of us are that group lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:19 PM
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Coercion? Why woudl coercion be needed? Are you telling me that you have never been a victim of the "maybe someone better is a swipe away" and it was all because you...just didnt like ALL the people? Sure bro. Keep telling yourself that. I mean hey...maybe you did, but thats actually a statistical minority. Not common at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:17 PM
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This is what I mean: saying "I don’t even need to choose a man" isn’t true. You're human, and you want to be with someone just like everyone else. Remember, you are human too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:15 PM
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mhm. Humans(men and women) see an integral part of being human, being in a relationship, as optional. Yup. Sounds very correct and true. I absolutely believe you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:12 PM
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An option is only real if the other party also thought the same. Otherwise, its an illusion. As i said in another comment, the world renowned expert is not going to work for the average company for 30k, no matter what they do. Thus its not an actual option they have. Like dude, yall aint nothing special stop this whole women this women that. Im making a societal point and yall keep saying the same on repeat, oh women this and that...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:10 PM
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How does this adresss the point im making? Sure, lets assume youre right about that... What leads to company layoffs and massive empty apartment lines? That these also realized its better to have no renting people and employees? Dude, youre not doing anything special by being on the demand side and behaving as the illusion of choice would have you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:07 PM
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Not the point. Why do yall keep stuck on women this...women that...like dudes and dudettes. Address the actual point Im making.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:03 PM
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"If you show a man 2000 women and convince him he had them all as potential mates, he would behave the same. And end up single. Stop the cap. Its the ILLLUSION of choice thats the problem." Why yall missing the point? What does any of that have to do with the point of consumerism and individualism and their effects on the individual parties?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:00 PM
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Tell that to the growing homllessness, joblessness, singledom and more. Thats not an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:56 PM
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Youre pulling a strawman. Consumerism and individualism are ruining society. Women, Landlords and Companies just so happened to be on the Demand side. The same would occur if men were on the demand side. If you show a man 2000 women and convinced him he had them all as potential mates, he would behave the same. Stop the cap. Its the ILLLUSION of choice thats the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:55 PM
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Stupid companies thinking they dont have to contirbute to the economy...stupid lanlords thinking that they can just monopolize housing...Why is you, and the other woman ignoring the rest of the post? Yall aint the star of the argument. Like...all of you/Landlords, companies etc) combined are behaving essentially the same at the moment. This cannot be a coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:53 PM
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Its an illusion of choice, which is why its causing so many issues. None of it is real. The company isnt getting the world renowned expert for 30k a year, no matter what they do. Average chicks aint getting chad. And the average landlord wont get any rich Aristocrat pay him a million for his small apartment. But the illusion of choise gives the idea that...if you wait enough..it might just happen. But you end up waiting and losing out cause it never will happen. Your actual choices havent change…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:50 PM
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Why do you focus only on women? My focus is on all of these odd players in order to make the point. Not just women. Did Companies also used to not have choice? Landlords as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:49 PM
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Reasoning by analogy, is not redefining anything. It's taking a term, finding it's essence, and making a bridge to a different scenario. Redefining would mean saying that dolling up in isolation is prostituting oneself, which... It isn't. And I'm not saying that. What economic service is sex as done by prostitutes? Does it produce anything (banker improving finances) does it service someone in meaningful ways( female nurse looking after patients)? It's an inherent, economic nonservice. Getting a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:30 PM
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I think I confused you there. Let me state it without hyperbole :Prostitutes are paid for a nonservice. Getting dolled up for a date is a nonservice. Thus requesting money for it , is just like prostitution. It's called reasoning by analogy and used in law a lot. At least here in Germany.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:09 AM
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Did you skip the "nonservice" part on purpose? If you would read the "nonservice" you would know that both plumbers and bankers do not apply here, neither do female nurses (who are women) who offer economical services apply in this discusssion. Now try again to defend your position. Cause that did not succeed. Paying for dates, remains prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:32 PM
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is that so? Well, explain your reasoning there then. In what world does paying dinner equal reciprocation for whatever it is that you did for a date, except in that of prostitution? Do you not know that prostitutes are paid for their "time"? Im very curious how you will try to defend your stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:10 PM
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That's what you said. Writing that the man should "reciprocate" and thus pay for the time. If that's not prostitution, what is it then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:08 AM
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That's a very pleb take. I concern myself with the future of the nation, since it's usually up to people like me to make it work. The rest of you are just noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:01 PM
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Giving up on finding something is not not caring about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:48 AM
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Mad? I don't feel mad. Do you have an actual point? Cause I'm not mad at all. That's a moot thing to say to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:37 AM
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Except most men find also the top women attractive only and yet are being realistic about the relationship prospects. Both genders want the hottest people. Wake up lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:10 AM
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You're awesome. Humans are such awesome creatures. And soo...predictable.its beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:01 AM
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You're advocating for prostitution by the end of your comment. How interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:00 AM
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Taking rejection personally because of said superficiall things is placing your value on them. Otherwise you dont take it personally. Youre arguing for an oxymoron that cant exist there. Part of who you are? Something you didnt have any influence over says what about you? Nothing. It only says that an ancestor had gene X, and by chance, you got it as well. So how is that a part of you? Certainly, its a part of your genetic lottery ticket, sure. But how is it a part of you? People see it first be…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:07 AM
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I mean If you want to attach your value as a person to nonsense that will fade by the time youre 50, go ahead. You can either do your mental health a favor, or you wont. Its your choice. I would personally suggest you not do that, but hey, your life, your responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:16 PM
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its just a lack of attraction. Aint that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:02 PM
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You sound like those people who get suicidial or suddenly ultra soft and emotional when theyre old. No, your height is just your genetic lottery. So is your looks. Who you are is who you are as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:01 PM
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For those willing, God is the answer. The modern man is a nihilist, suffering in silence with no purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:08 PM
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Yes. Here is a short anecdote about it. I was in high school. And we were talking with the dudes and the topic came to be about who likes who. And one guy, who was known to watch Porn a lot. Said, he likes no one. And some of the other dudes agreed with him. All the gals were ugly. Now I, who learning of its dangers had stopped by then for a while, was very schocked. The gals werent ugly at all. Now looking back on it, its obvious why the dudes thought that back then. Their perceptors were very …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:27 PM
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Well, lets make a thought experiment. You are one of those women. Youre in a relationship. You think...its going ok. You spend time on instagram and sometimes look at your bf and think hes kinda ultra mid on that day(your beauty perceptors getting overloaded). But you dont do anything. Because, you want to have a family now and those days are behind you. In this situation you get a dead bedroom (40% of couples nowadays). And if you for whatever reason think that social media is unhealthy and avo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:19 PM
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I think explaining why the principle works will answer that. Its not, comparison between a and b that makes it work. But, adjusting of the brain to stimuli, any stimuli from any source. In the case of the houses for example, the brain is getting adjusted to the stimuli of the ugly houses. Its adjusting its baseline for beauty, so that it becomes extra sensitive to any improvment. Thus a normal looking house overwhelms him rendering him to think its oh so beautiful. The stimuli can literally come…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:58 PM
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The contrast principle is proven by science. Some real estate agents use it to sell normal houses by showing people very ugly ones just before. It works in either direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:21 PM
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You self improve to attain new heights. To attain excellence. To become a being that would laugh at the current you and that without any malice. Thats true self improvement anyway. I dont see how women play any sort of role here so as to resent them. Its a highly individual process.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:32 AM
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Both of you are scum.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:12 AM
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I meant concerning the individualism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:07 AM
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I mean wait till you see Germany.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:56 AM
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Even Western countries that don't subscribe to toxic individualism such as those of South America don't suffer from this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:07 PM
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Age spent undergoing tribulations and similar is most definetly an indicator of wisdom. Age spent just existing, perhaps mildly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 04:16 PM
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I think this is mostly toxic individualism from the west. I think other cultures dont have that issue and havent forgotten the brotherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:31 AM
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I would have turned the offer down. There are some crazy people out there and theyre sneaky af. Some dude got a bottle broken on his head from behind. i value my brain too much for that sort of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:35 PM
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Thats wrong. Unless you have some ultra above average muscle genes, being taller means being a small guy. Lanky comes with the territory. Im just 6ft and shorter dudes look way buffer with less muscle. You have it even worse than me lol. Anyhow, yeah. That makes perfect sense. Since, theyre perceiving a genetic predator not an actual one. Kinda sad to be honest. Humans are a sad bunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:12 PM
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Predatory in the sense towards the woman. Not a general predator like some buff 6 ft Bald beareded guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:50 PM
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the most comradic environments tend to be the most succesful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:15 PM
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Creepy is when you give the appearance of being predatory towards the woman due to body language, tone etc coupled with certain actions that would give you a predatory advantage. Ugly doesnt mean creepy unless one has certain facial features that look predatory. The Solution is to be sociable and normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:06 PM
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It's a sign. The Heavens are communicating to you their will.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:39 PM
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Are you asking why I brought up Lucifer or? Cause thats written strange. If yes, cause I think its a good show. why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:13 PM
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You should watch Lucifer. Its a good show.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:06 PM
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That was a lucifer reference. He uses these types of words sarcastically. And I copied that since I like that talking style.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 09:02 PM
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I mean, of course not. Dude needed to just ghost and move on with life. And why would you care how I feel ? You dont even know me lol. Bringing that up makes no sense. Why would you bring that even up?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:49 PM
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will you now deny that thats what many women who settle do? Youre very devious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:43 PM
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You have no cocept of legacy. Go ahead and be forgotten. I mean I will as well, but at least I know the importance of legacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:33 PM
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She should go and find someone more stupid I guess. And then resent him and be mad she settled lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:27 PM
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Romans? Abbasids? Napoleon? Alexander the Great? Ceasar? Abraham Lincoln...Do I need to go on? Yall on some small people stuff lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:22 PM
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Thats not what im saying at all. If she was a genuine close friend, why did she vanish for so long? Its cause she wasnt, they had a more casual friendship going on. And since it was casual, turning him back down then, and wanting something now, is an insult. Dont bother, unless its work or friendship stuff. Nothing romantic, forget romantic. Are you deliberately trying to misrepresent what im saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:15 PM
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I mean, from lamenting to not having spent youth with someone who didnt want him, to taking out his frustrations online, he surely did many mistakes. But what is truly ew, is being so unhinged to insult someone after years of not talking to them. And thinking theyd say yes. Gives major narc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:05 PM
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Hes lamenting that he cannot experience the youth he could have if they were together whilst young. A mistake if you ask me. But, thats what he thinks. And id say to contact people out the blue after years with manipulative intentions in mind is more weird. But thats just me. I mean, what did she expect? For him to say yes? lol. Edit: He is. And thats to be expected in such a scenario. if he wasnt, then it would be quite weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:55 PM
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But they had the casual part behind them already. And when it was time to reveal the topic, she did not seem to be having any work in mind at all. Since he tried to find out if she had anything work related to say due to some other old friend reaching out for work stuff out the blue. So what did she have except the most obvious reason? And the people calling him bitter, idk about bitter, bit in his shows id be insulted. At that point its either work or dont talk to me. She noticed that on linked…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:48 PM
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Why did she not put any business proposal forward then or anything work related? And the guy said they werent in contact for 3 or 4 years at that point and tried to be work minded. Its fishy to just stop talking and resurface without any evident reason to do so like something work related for example. What else is he supposed to think?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:42 PM
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Why did she ghost him for 4 years and randomly contact him again? That in itself is fishy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:34 PM
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People have waged war to make it to the pages of history and youre giving an eye roll. Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:14 PM
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Profit?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:11 PM
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you seen a woman get rejected before? Aint pretty at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:11 PM
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Those people train men to be grown infants and then get suprised pikachu face. Like the amount you hear dudes say nonsense like my gf doesnt allow it or something is just nuts. Where is your dignity dude? Yall are supposed to be grown adults. Not mama and her husbandchild.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:38 PM
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That guy from far cry 4 is more intimidating to most people than any angry "warrior". Cause, calm works. And calm + action, works even better. IN all areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:13 PM
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allow? What is he, your pet? How can you allow or dissallow anything lol People are tripping.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:10 PM
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I said the generation. not just you and your husband. And the global population is merely being held afloat due to Africa. But that too is ending. According to the latest prediction Models, By 2100, africa will have barely 2 childern per woman. Nuts stuff. Not even 100 years from now. So yeah. Dont have children, but dont expect the few future youth to keep you affloat by becoming slaves. Work till death and thats the part that you individually can do. Support the youth and dont be a hypocritus.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:51 PM
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If the generation doesnt want to save the demographics, then they must work till death and forget retirement. The youth has absolutely no obligation to become slaves for the old just cause they didnt want to have kids to look after them. Lets see where this idealistic individualism will lead society. I mean its obviously towards doom. But, eh. As long as me is not harmed amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:29 PM
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The issue comes when youre old and you need young people paying taxes to get your retirement. Those people however, are so few even as we speak, that youd have to enslave the youth to work a LOT to keep the old in retirement. (which is the current choice of the Political Leaders in Germany for example). Its not selfish to not want children...Its also not selfish for the youth to not want enslavement. Continue the logical trail...And you end up with anarchy. There wont be any robots if there are …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:22 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:13 PM
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Goofing around from time to time is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:57 PM
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Why so serious? They should.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:37 PM
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questions aint arguments tho...Even rhetorical ones... Compatibility for LTR is based on criteria most would ignore. Hence why all the breaking up and stuff. People will be peopling I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:28 PM
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Delusion is the answer to lifes problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:18 PM
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Why would anyone seriously waste mental energy on this? You cant change attraction. So who cares? Live life peeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:14 PM
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what happened to letting nature take its course? Why all these uneeded considerations? fear? What would society be like if the majority of people werent cowards?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:11 PM
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The whole "lack of experience in relationships" part. Reads like some job ad "Needs 5 years of experience to apply". I am finding it very cringe is what I am saying, and indicative of a strange modern novelty mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:53 PM
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This is just grass is greener stuff. Human nature is undefeated boi.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:32 PM
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Or you need to touch some grass. Its not that deep lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:08 PM
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Did you really just say that as if this is some job or something? Lol. This also pressuposes an eventual split. Since in the long term experience requierements are useless be it in jobs or anything cause it evens out, but not if you arent commited to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:06 PM
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So let me get this straight. Claim a: Looks alone determine your fate in life! Evidence: nah. Here are some outliers to prove that is nonsense. You: asfbsdakfbaifieuwb thats statistical outliers! Do you even logic bro? Do I really have to explain it to you? Like cmon. Do better. And laughing before processing a statement is dorky. Dont do that in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:24 PM
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One can have different interests and a smaller level of smiliarity with friends. but given that your relationship partner should be closer to you, the level of similarity should be greater, whilst of course not being a carbon copy of oneself . Why would I give up all the limited free time I have for a relationship if thats not given? So what will then be the relationship experience? sex and then you watch Solo Levelling alone whilst doing all the usual bf stuff? What value does that add to my li…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:48 AM
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Well those who did know how to write did write journals. They were not neecesairly aristocrats. And even if they were, todays "aristocrats" are as nihilisitc as the rest of the populace. Thus, even reading what the aristocrats said would help.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:24 AM
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"overt" psychos are just normal dudes. I already explained why psychopaths have to be experts at hiding it, just like chameleons. The natural state of the psychopath creeps people out, and in the past, they would have been killed or let to die in exile. Survival skills are honed to perfection, or they would not help someone survive. This is logic 101 people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:21 AM
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Good to know
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 09:00 PM
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Well psychopaths are rare individuals so statistically speaking, you are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 08:05 PM
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No vetting can help against a psychopath. You can only vet against normal dudes who suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:56 PM
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I interpreted your reply as saying, the psychopaths skill to seem normal was never a problem for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:55 PM
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they are getting properly what? What do you mean? If you mean they are able to defeat a survival tactic that they, and most people are not, cause when organisms need to survive they tend to get very good at skills, then thats again, just arrogance. Its like claiming you can spot chameleons whilst theyre camouflaging. You cant. They perfected the art of Camouflage for survival. If you spot them, they die. I dont know why its so hard to see the logical impossibility here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:53 PM
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Im actually neutral about the OP. I just wanted to correct the philosopher on how psychopaths operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:42 PM
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the guy you didnt like for whatever reason was not a psychopath in any way shape or form if thats what you mean. The ability of the psychopath to survive hinges on their ability to perfectly seem normal. Saying you spotted one very early on is very arrogant and untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:40 PM
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Psychopaths are great at not seeming like psychopaths at all. The mask slips after a while tho. But by then its too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:31 PM
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He was Either lying for sympathy points, or felt a connection with you. Do these men also happen to be in your friends circle? If yes, its the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:25 PM
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Sex is just sex to most of us. I dont see how that would work. Youd have to have a connection before the sex for it to have any impact. And being without a connection would imply lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:14 PM
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I hate him more for the role his empire played in global antisemitism, and im not even jewish. And as for exceptional, the great Khan, Hannibal and Napoleon are what I would personally consider exceptional. Alexander is romanticized to absurd levels. Propaganda game is strong in that one. Especially since even the original sources are also heavily propagandized. In war I would wreck Alexander no contest, however Hannibal would easily wreck me, so its obvious where Alexander stands in the line up…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:00 PM
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I know the reality of genes first hand. And if you follow the thread with Dark Sector to its conclusion youll see why. Its not that long. You are not actually disaggreeing with me. And did you really have to mention Alexander? There is not a single individual I dislike more than that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:28 PM
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Let me ask you a question. Do you think that men in Africa or the Balkans like boobs? If you answered yes, why is that? Well, cause men are men. And women are women, no matter the place. Passport bros are getting scammed left right and center.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:18 PM
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it stings even more when you take years of caution in between only for it to end up not being enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:15 PM
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I thought I was the only one whose mom was like that. Its so weird to see this trend of overly controlling moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:57 PM
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Most dudes mistake the current nihilistic climate, which breeds a lack of purpose, with lonliness. I mean most of us have a gang we get along with, so its not really an issue of being lonely. More like, having no noble causes anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:51 PM
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am I the only one who never did this? But then again, I got ghosted for whatever reason, even tho I thought she was a genuine friend. Perhaps my experience is statistically unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:49 PM
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Nature just is, and it so happens to be brutal. I think there is truth in that. But I think it has to be ignored. Nihilism is more dangerous than nature´s brutality. And I think that is the issue here actually. In the Past, dudes were all about more meaningful stuff. Read some Journals of dudes in the 1800s and 1900s. Its really recent that the meaning of life has become be fuck boy and get bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:16 PM
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Thats not BP tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:07 PM
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I mean, its like a game character. Your genes are your stats. The only difference is, in reality, your stats are assigned at birth, while in the game you get to decide them. That is all, same system. And sure, I agree that when it comes to sexual attraction, your looks stat is the most important of them all. And due to the halo effect, it gives you a small boost to your other stats. But that is it. Sure, the ceos wife lusts after Chad more due to this. But what many do not consider is that the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:40 PM
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Napoleon whose wive cheated on him with a handsome hunk is now HV according to the BP? How can an ugly person be HV in that framework? That doesnt even compete. According to the BP, you are only HV if you are very hot. Nothing else matters to the BP. Which is why its wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:26 PM
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None of that is the classical BP tho. Sure, general human success in life is based on your genetic toolset, and how much you use it in life and upgrade it with skills + your allies and contacts, experience etc. But that is simple biology, because you need genes to exist as a person, no way around that. Where the BP absolutely gets wrecked is its ignoring of more important genetic components when it comes to determining life(such as charisma, intellect, mental strength, outside the box thinking) …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:20 PM
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The Central point of genetic determinism is that, things are well, determined by your looks. Napoleon alone wrecks that to its core. Then we have Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates etc. Women do not drool over these guys and never did, they still won at life. Cause they had other things to offer apart from Looks. And that is how life works. Game Theory. Basically, the answer to your first statement, is, no one cares as its completely inconsequential to life. No chad will ever be as important or impactful or…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:04 PM
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Prophets which have shaped history were mostly average looking. Napoleon was no looker either. Dark color pill debunked no contest. Life is all about game theory, not some genetic determinism nonsense. If one is average looking, better be charming. If not, something else. Compensation people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:47 PM
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Change men with hot guys in the excerpt and you have your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:43 PM
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those are pretty easy to spot if one is observant. The point however was that, virgin has grown to be linked with a looser archetype. And if one is not that, people ignore the virgin part entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:04 AM
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cause of archetype. If youre a vigin ceo, whos charismatic and at least normal looking, no one will care. Since you are a winner archetype and not a looser archerype .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:56 AM
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We are talking past each other tho. Of course, being fit at 20 is more appealing than being fit at 40 for both genders. Since the body was less aged at 20. But I am not talking about that at all. I am talking about the fact that this does not mean that being attractive at 30 or 40 is irrelevant and you turn into an incel or something just cause you are older. Essentially what I am saying is that, there is more than one decade to have a dating life in. Youre not doomed if it didnt work out in you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:12 AM
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Research? Do you think this is some innate aging trait or something? Building muscle takes years, so does improving ones health, and building a good career and expanding ones social circle in a stable manner. And all those things make you more attractive. Its not that deep. No one is claiming some miracle happens when you turn 30 and youre some godlike chad who makes people lust after you by existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:31 PM
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That is why dead bedrooms are a thing. You are exactly right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:13 PM
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That would not indicate talking about aging well at 45+ tho. But rather aging well at during the 30s. Which is primarily based on how one was during his 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:31 AM
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depends where you at. Here in germany, I feel average height.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:15 AM
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im 22 myself. I dont think being a dude makes that much of a difference. Who are these people that you notice their wrinkles? I dont think that my parents, profersors etc, are some genetic freaks. Are you sure we are talking about people in their 30s and 40s and not 45+?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:48 AM
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hoho. dev?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:56 PM
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bars and clubs are too loud tho. One can go to a Concert if one wants it loud. Much, much better experience. And lets not talk about the akward masturbation rituals that are hookups, which is the main event at bars and clubs. Hardly conductive to anything worthwhile the whole endeavor. Why are there no dance balls? why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:46 PM
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look unvirile you mean. Bald on its own just represents a lack of virility. Which can be balanced out by a good body and overall health in other areas. You can be young and unvirile as well. Age isnt really the point, but health. Health and virility are attractive in both sexes, and time(and money to eat better) help in that regard. Silver Foxes are just people who knew this truth and took care of their health. Modern life is very anti health nowadays, so its not like getting more virility is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:06 PM
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The traits you mentioned for most men in the 30s are antithetical to improving oneself in the 20s. And balding is genetic. Its unappealing, and so is cellulite, thus who cares about both. Anyhow, this idea you present, "there isnt much to help x" I find very strange. Most people are willingly unwilling to change and improve. Its not a matter of actual possibility to improve. They chose that for themselves, by themselves. The more time passes, the more obvious it becomes to me that ability has a …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:56 PM
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if its not making sense, its instinct. I mean, look at the height thing. Dont make no sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:15 PM
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So hypothetically if you fat in your 20s, and then get buff in your 30s, and improve style, become healthier, travel more due to having a career now, improve mindset etc etc, you will not be doing better? That is bogus. Dating later absolutely going to be better for those who use their 20s to actually build themselves up instead of being all talk. Now of course this wont work if someone already peaked in his 20s, since, glass celing and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:06 PM
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I guess I should be more specific, elaborate on the Dopamin hit part. Why would it be a dopamine hit to get attention or validation from someone you essentially don't really care about? I get the using someone for sex part but how does that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:56 PM
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im 6ft myself, and I agree, we aint super tall. It feels about normal to me. I still find it weird tho. Ive had some like, very short girls be into me and i was like it almost looks like youre my baby sister or something. Super weird stuff. Maybe that scarred me or something. Yeah, this whole height stuff I find weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:30 PM
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Do elaborate. This sounds way too familiar.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:16 PM
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who compliments people on being tall? That is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:11 PM
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I dont watch porn. And gaming overstimulates me. I only do it like one a week. I have a whole degree I need to attain. I guess at this point I have gotten used to internet peoples assuming things about me. Go on. What else do i do...Live in my parents basement whilst being 2000km away from them? Or maybe something else? Jacking it off every day perhaps? Dont do that either. But go on. You sure know me better than myself. After all its not like you reddit folk are completely clueless about realit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:13 AM
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that is just some pop psychology copout. No matter how familiar it is, no one will tolerate abuse if they do not find you hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:48 AM
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bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:22 AM
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that particular flaw just so happens to be attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:11 AM
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Tree. No contest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:03 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:27 AM
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Except in this case its Co-Murderers to run with your example. An accomplice in such a scenario would be the Secretary who knows of what the Cheater and the Cheatee are doing, but either says nothing, or assists them in their act. There has to be specific involvement that does not pass a certain Threshold in order to qualify as an acomplice. No inconsistencies here with the rest of the Law. The Law does not care if women internally view themselves as supportive background characters subject to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:20 PM
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Thats the whole to "genuinely be better" part. Which of course has nothing to do with forgiveness but trust. Forgivness is an internal state of not holding a grudge. You do not have to trust someone you have forgiven unless there is objective reasons to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:08 PM
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Forgiveness means forgiveness. It doesnt mean ending up together again with a cheating partner. And in the context of family, it means repairing damaged bonds. Fools arrogant enough to think that they have the luxury to hold grudges against others, whilst being scum themselves, are gonna be suprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:59 PM
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The fact that its hurts less coming from the stranger is irrelevant to the moral failure of cheating and responsibility towards said failure is what I mean. will it give the victim future trust issues or something and other such things? Sure. Is it connected to the "is affair person also responsible for cheating and if so when" .Not at all. If we talk about everything, we end up talking about nothing. I dont think its that different in the us when it comes to intent. Intent is intent. If you pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:50 PM
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Correct. But I would not go as far as to be that radically unforgiving, As long as someone wants to genuinely be bettter and take responsibility, I do not think the path of forgiveness should be blocked from them. We all make decisions that will turn out to be moral failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:53 PM
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I am not really focusing on sentimental impact here. Sure, the known persons betrayal stings more. But that is utterly irrelevant to the point of sharing responsibility and moral failure. No one cares that the mistress or side guy wants to remain neutral. Their feelings, (assuming it is not one of the sitautions where they have minimal guilt I listed above) are utterly and completely irrelevant and meaningless. They have acted recklessly and selfishly. They share in the moral failure and are res…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:45 PM
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The tribes that choose different were anihilated or assimilated. There really was no other sensible choice back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:21 PM
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Thats the patriarchy. Gotta go protect and provide and all that nonsense. She is speaking the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:06 PM
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No. The west is simply going to be replaced. ITs the cycle of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:04 PM
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how convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:57 PM
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Its inconsequential whether it is changing or not. The reality on the ground is what it is. Abstract definitions, detached from reality, are nothing more than play pretend for adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:40 PM
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And some parts of humanity used to define africans as inferior peoples. Now we rightfully mock such nonsense. Your point is what exactly? That the definition is right cause....Peer pressure? How convincing indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:36 PM
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Assuming they knew of the situation, yes. Both the cheater and the cheatee have intentionally broken the trust of the victim and potentially split families and ruined vows. Under the Old laws, both would deservingly die, as reflection of their responsibility. by entangling yourself with a coupled person, you also entangle yourself in the relationship itself. There is no way to remain neutral here. Now assuming that the cheatee did not know of the Situation, then the question is did they try to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:33 PM
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You seem to equate social interaction with being social. You can be lonely in a crowd whilst interacting with them all. Humans are conformist, and tribal creatures. Which means they do interact with each other within the tribe(social environment) for survival purposes. But that doesnt make them social. Social laws like, do not cheat, do not kill etc. Have to be artificially enforced, precisely because humans are not social by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:18 PM
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The weak seek strength in numbers. Nothing new in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:00 PM
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That is because humans go in packs, as a way to compensate for physical inferiority compared to other beings. It has nothing to do with being truly social. The truly pro social among humanity, which are also rare, are called naive and guillible and are often taken advantage off. If humanity were truly a pro social set of creatures, communism would have never failed. And yet here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:43 PM
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Humans in general are prestige sensitive. And women, who had to sort of cling to the man they were with and would be treated very good or very bad depending on his personal prestige, kinda evolved a sensitivity to that. The Fault lies again, with us. Why muscles? Cause we like to fight each other. Why intelligence? Cause we like to compete with each other. Why prestige? Cause we like to do dick measuring contests. Why height? Most dudes respect tallter guys more. Why confidence? The warrior who …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:25 PM
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First it was having lots of goats. Now its educated. This is all about prestige lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:20 PM
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Humans are conformist not social. Anyhow, the majority don't want to be settled for either. They just submit to their fate. That's why yall are obsessed with confidence and all that. As a trait it's actually very rare in humans, who are conformity incarnate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:22 AM
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The majority will do what they always have. Its inconsequential. Hero Worship is a thing for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 06:41 PM
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And what makes you think anyone wants to get settled for in the "relationship" part? Thus, the relationship part can as well not even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:22 PM
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Its still an exchange. The timing does not really change anything nor does it have to be explicitly stated that its an exchange. The act of it being an exchange in its essence is all that matters. If you provide the sole income in the house, you may not think that your stay at home husband is a prostitute, but he is being a prostitute. Men can be prostitutes too. And the issue with your example is that, men in general kinda dont care about being provided for and all that nonsense. So an exchange…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:46 PM
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If you did a favour for a friend, and they bought you dinner, they know owe you no favor, In other words, they gave you money for favor, instead of favor for favor as is the social custom. An exchange. Paying for a date is paying for sex. Let a woman make it absolutely clear that she will not sleep wih anyone paying for a date, and see how many actually pay for a date. I understand that in your mind, the guy loves you oh so much he takes care of you and all your needs. But that is not the reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:19 PM
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You are if the usual expectation is being adhered to. Which is that you sleep with them. Which is why anything but a fair split during dating is weirdo patriarcal nonsense and blatant prostitution. So is marriage without 2 incomes. Prostitution is the act of exchange, a dinner date wanting to be there due to mutual attraction changes nothing if there is no fair split. Mutual attraction does not eliminate that the guy paid for it. And telling oneself he enjoys doing so is also not eliminating it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:12 PM
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Still an upstart commoner but now married to a princess. And the marriage was not a stable aliance as can be seen by her cheating as well and the Kid never visiting Napoleon in exile. Napoleon just didnt have luck in that department I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:50 PM
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Youre ignoring that the status of the wife does not transfer to the husband. The Princess does not make the man she marries a prince.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:06 PM
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Did you ignore the last sentence on purpose? How rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 12:52 PM
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The one he married after becoming Emperor of France and de facto ruler of Continental Europe? The Daugher of Austria? That was to ensure an Heir and have him be accepted by the rest of nobiility as noble. It wasnt about status, as he literally ruled as Emperor by then. Cant get more Status than that. However, as Napoleon himself commented, they still looked at him as a peasant and wannabe rebel. Since, he did not have the famous blue blood in him. Thus, the marriage with Austria would help in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 07:42 PM
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Napoleon who foolishly believed Josephine loved him deeply and did not cheat on him with a hunk officer while he was in Egypt? Social Status you do not gain unless you are born into Nobility in 1789 France.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:22 PM
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Pain is a nerve response. Its as much of an emotion as muscle ache. Your point is that its an emotion just because, since otherwise your point doesnt work and it all falls apart. i mean, ok. Arguing is a waste of time so we'll pretend you're right. Pain is an emotion. Coughing is also an emotion. And so is dying. Everything is an emotion. You and me as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 08:03 PM
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Or maybe death by hunger is very painful stuff? I fasted once for 3 days straight during my intermittent fasting craze phase. And it was not fun. Starvation is probably much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:53 PM
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How about not wanting to die of hunger due to not having money cause of no job? People are biased, yes. But youre blowing it way out of proportion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:28 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:23 PM
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You're being pedantic. One asks for sources when the actual value is of importance. In this case it's not. It's doesn't make any meaningful difference if it's 2, 3, 6 or something else, because the value is not going to be high either way. You can take my estimate, make your own it doesn't matter. And as for evidence that the ego is indeed stored in the brain, you can look at cases before vs after brain damage among other things. I think at this point it's accepted by the neuro folks that the eg…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:10 PM
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I mean it's simple actually. You have the estimate of data all humans are said to possess. And you compare it with simple programs using way way way less amounts of data that are able to out compete us with ease. So you can safely conclude that whatever brain power the ego gets, it's almost miniscule compared to what the brain could do IF it was actually free to do so and not busy with like, surviving and all the other necessities.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:53 PM
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If your critique is the precise and exact value of how much the ego gets from the brain allocation, then I think this misses the point of the whole thing. The point isn't that, we know for a fact it's 10%. (in my estimate it's probably around 2%). The point is that, the self, is just one part of the Whole Machine that is the human brain. And is powered by the brain. And it makes sense. We are biological robots after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:37 PM
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Did you read the content of the links before posting? They all regurgitate the whole "but the brain is active 100% of the time!". Which I addressed already. Do you even know what the difference between the "self" / ego and the brain is? Like, consider that at this moment, your brain is currently doing intensive metabolic calculations and organizing energy allocation across the whole body. How much of that was your doing? About 0%. That's the difference between the brain, and you. You ain't using…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:18 PM
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How one can arrive to such a wrong conclusion from such simple data is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:04 PM
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Except for the Muslim lands, and the Far east, yes. I haven't looked into why their birth rates are collapsing. But I would assume that for the far east it's probably exporting of Western culture. This isn't the gotcha comment that you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:29 AM
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We agree on that one then. So let me give you some legal history(I may transferring to IT now, but my 4 semesters of successful legal studies are enough to do that among other things) Marriage used to be a private endeavor. It was a contract. Civil Marriage was unheard of historically speaking. It was an agreement between families first, which then got sanctified by the local religion, basically it was highly decentralized as a system (as it should be) . The idea of a stately controlled and appr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:23 PM
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The funding would have to be massive for that. And Russia is unlikely to fully mobilize. If you have logical arguments to the contrary I'm willing to discuss of course. I don't marry conclusions don't worry lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:30 PM
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Read that again. "Anything but a standstill is impossible". You can't know what is accurate and what is nonsense. You're not even there. The reason why we know it's nonsense from both sides, is because war is firstly fought with deception. Thus, one can ignore anything but the actual stats that we know about the two nations. And those are the ones I listed. Therefore that really is all. The Ukraine war is the greatest embarrassment in history. There is no doubt about that in my mind. And no, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:12 PM
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The Russian army has resources but they royally suck at fighting. And Ukraine has neither a good army nor a huge amount of resources however they have a good defensive position. Thus anything, but a standstill is impossible. Whatever you hear being claimed from either the Russian side or the Ukrainian side is just bogus and nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:58 PM
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they dont learn anything...right....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:00 PM
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That is so naive, you cant really be saying it. It doesnt make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 12:59 PM
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Being ok with it does not really change that your husband is shagging others. Thus, polgygamy is nothing but condoned cheating if you ask me. Do you in all honesty believe that the governments involvement is for the support of children, and not to regulate peoples lives and enforce the will of the state at the detriment of children and autonomy? Children do the best within 1, a couple raising them, 2, with the help of extended family. Since you claim to be advocating for the good of children, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 12:58 PM
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Well we can't know that it won't happen. You can day my take is optimistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:11 AM
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Us treats their allies worse than the enemies. Stop the naivete.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:09 AM
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And at it again. If I wanted to condone cheating I'd say polygamy or something. Instead I said relationships. This is between one dude and one girl. The caveat however is, it's not set in stone. And it's not unconditional. You grwo complacent, hateful etc, the thing has to end. We only value that which we can lose. This is what is meant with, the preferred one among many. You have many, but you only pick one cause she lives up to the standard. Yes, anyone not doing this is going contrary to his …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:05 AM
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Well I ain't from the US.... "Feel offended". Why? If I felt offended I'd say, hey that was hurtful. No explicit thing mentions me being offended. You're adding the emotional flavoring on your own. So you taking the opposite meaning of what I said, is not the same as me saying that. This is important to understand. You have been doing this headcanon stuff the entire time. There are no such instincts. Idk what you're talking about. Women disengaging after a few years of official marriage, just me…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 07:44 AM
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Major short term thinking right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:48 AM
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You know nothing about the world if you think Israel needs that funding to begin with. Quit the cope dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:47 AM
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Having experienced it does not mean still undergoing it. Most dudes aren't married at this present moment. In fact, they are single. You'd have to link some contemporary stats for that claim. And there you go again. Putting emotions where the author intends none. How can one feel raped by words? Like how does that work? You're putting emotions left and right. First it was some negativity nonsense. Then blame. Now it's feeling raped. Stop doing this. This is what I mean with raping my words. Take…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:44 AM
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The similarities between that, and the thing that works (Israeli culture) are exactly 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:43 PM
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Like how does one do that? How do you keep misinterpreting me? Most guys cannot be mostly married and miserable if they are not well, married. And those who are married, I claim are miserable. Are you ignoring what I write? Arguing with ghosts? What's up? So you realize how contradictory that is. But them instead of accepting the most obvious logical conclusion that I blame no one, you take the wrong conclusion once more. Like stop. Stop doing that. You're ruthlessly raping my words. What have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:39 PM
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This ain't ww2 dude. The Russians let themselves go massively since then. You're an expert at copiium.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:36 PM
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Would agree
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:35 PM
1

We are disagreeing about what it means to stand with Palestine. I'm sure yall have solidarity with Palestinians. But you have your own country to take care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:25 PM
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You think north Koreans aren't doing that and are dying for a regime change? Do you know how dictatorships work? Dictators know that most people don't really care to do anything. And those that do care( a minority usually. Hence the 100,000 from 150 million Egyptians) are very easy to deal with unless they have smart leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:21 PM
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Why is the military supporting him? And you do know that Egypt is 150 million people right? Maybe those people are more busy living their already hard lives than to get involved with politics?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:17 PM
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You heard 6 days war before? Done using weapons the Czech gave? Now that is phenomenal. Ukraine struggling to do anything of note in freaking 2 years just proves that, it's not equipment on its own that helps. Like the Russian army sucks dude. And they still haven't managed to push them back. Doing slightly better than expectations isn't how wars are won.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:14 PM
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Only 10% of the brain is devoted to our conscious activity. The rest is stuff we don't regulate. So "you", the ego, the self, the conscious part, do only use 10%. The brain being 100% active doesn't mean you get to use more of it for conscious activity than is already allocated. That's not a pop science anything. It's fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:07 PM
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That's just one dude bro. Why is the population participating? Why not go full French revolution on him? Cause they don't care. That's why. Waving flags is not the same as being willing to actually do something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:56 PM
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Why is Ukraine still struggling then, if Equipment is all it takes? Major cope dude. If it's not the west then China will give them weapons or India. The isralies learned their lesson from the West during ww2. They specialized in independence and innovation for that reason. They will maintain friendly relations with the west cause it makes sense. But if the west wants to go full Hitler again, the result will be much more different than the last time. So I think you're just mad you can't bully th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:54 PM
1

Why did they block the border then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:47 PM
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Tell that to them kicking ass in the six days war while the west merely watched. If you think Western Support is paramount to Israel, do I have some bad news for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:39 PM
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And there you go again. I'm only talking marriage here. Nothing else. Most guys ain't married to be miserable. And maybe it's in the woman's nature to find dudes who do not accept that part of themselves eventually stale and devoid of life? I said I say yes to life. That includes our biological realities. Did I not say blaming nature is saying no to life? Did I not say saying no to oneself is saying no to life? Like what exactly confuses you. This does not mean that men do not have a preferred w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:36 PM
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I think you're vastly overestimating Arab solidarity with Palestinians. If you're right, the Egyptians would not have put a border with Palestine for example. They would have helped them instead. Being Arab I think is just a loose term like being western. Each people group is still its own. And no one is committing genocide. Touch some grass dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:18 PM
1

So thriving birth rates are self destruction? Like explain to me the logic behind that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:50 PM
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Cause they are still not the majority. When they are the majority it will just be a more right wing society. I don't think that they're gonna let the economy collapse. That's bogus.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:03 PM
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Nah. They'll just adapt. Society will just turn more right that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:56 PM
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I mean if the women were early twenties it makes sense. But by thirty most marry and have kids above replacement level. The ultra religious just have way above replacement level.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:56 PM
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So it's the culture. I agree about not being able to replicate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:53 PM
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The libs have 3 kids per woman. The argument does not hold up to scrutiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:51 PM
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Culture. That's the only reason. Like I asked around the sub reddit. People who don't have children are seen as weird. And from work, to parks to basically everywhere it's children friendly. Bringing kids to work is normal. Etc etc. Women have rights in Israel just like in the rest of the world, still no birth rate issues. Thus, it's culture. Not feminism. Not industry. None of that. Western culture is simply trash. End of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:44 PM
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Those guys are cringe. I'd ignore them if I were you. I have asked them. (none of them having married anyone they disliked. I'd say keep those weird prostitutiom couples out of this discussion) They always repeat the same. It's started out well, then the BEHAVIOR of their wives changed. That's why I said, it's liker a ticking time bomb once commitment happens. ... This sounds like a huge amount of insecurities on your part. Do you honestly think that getting older is that serious? That that make…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:40 PM
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Israel disagrees. It's mainly cultural reasons. The cultural climate in the West is pro hedonism and invidiualism while being anti family.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:30 PM
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Who would marry some chick solely out of sexual attraction? What is that? I don't compute. Date /= marry tho. Marrying to get sex? Why would I do that just for sex? Again, I don't compute. Who are these people? Do they want some exclusive prostitute or what? That's a very specific case. And again, it looks to me like some weird exclusive prostitution ordeal. I do not associate with anyone who would lack dignity to such level. You're still doing what you're doing. Misrepresenting me. The only par…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:24 PM
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That sounds like it makes sense but it actually doesn't. Men generally do not marry women they dislike. It just doesn't happen. However the phenomenon of women marrying men they merely tolerate is not new. Thus that the complaints sound more like the men being the unwanted party does indeed make sense. Like honestly, I have yet to see a married dude who is glad and full of life. They lose their vitality quick, not even due age, they become like yall here, hateful of life, dead inside, a shadow o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:20 PM
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Arguing against your own imagination there. The point is, you can't just pick in choose to be one or the other based on what benefits you most. Cause women bring up the having no choice card a suspicious lot of times and it's always the most convenient times to just about dodge accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:39 AM
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Never said anything of that nature. Just that from what I hear, dudes regret the marriage a lot. Thus I think most marriages do suck. Now of course that could be selection bias at play there. Anyhow, that's irrelevant. The actual question is, why do you constantly read things into what I said? Is it that fun to be arguing against your own imagination or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:36 AM
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Nah. I'm saying that you romanticize your life as your male equivalent and aren't being realistic about how it would play out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:16 PM
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That's what I hear from them. Gotta solve this amongst each other. I don't do relationships myself. Pessimistic attitudes are anti life. How does that ever become affirmative of life? You're literally arguing against some version of me you conjured up that has none to do with the real me and what I stand for. The truth is that yall are the decadent haters of life, lacking vitality. Full of pessimist, hateful and depressive attitudes. The man and the woman alike. Do not get me mixed up with that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:43 PM
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I sure hope so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:40 PM
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Then why they complaining all the time about dead bedrooms? What's up with that? My self hating negativity? Dude, I say yes to life. Yall are the ones (men and women) who fail to do so and hate on life. Self hating is saying no to life. Keep that anti life attitude to yourself and your fellow men and women. That nonsense got nothing to do with me. Yall would be better of having my life affirming attitude any time of the day lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:38 PM
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I do not buy for a second that women actually believe those lies when they hear them. The reality is rather that one failed to use "feminine charm" to actually get one to commit because, surprise surprise, it doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:23 PM
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You have no agency once someone forcibly kills you against your will. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:18 PM
2

Sure. A nice day to you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:21 PM
2

Yikes bro
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:20 PM
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Not for any man tho. Like this is the one thing where it indeed applies to all men. If I sleep with you, and then your friend, I cared about neither of you, and just wanted to pump and dump. A man who actually cares about a woman to commit to her, doesn't do that. We ain't commitment phobes. No guy is a commitment phobe when the right one shows up. It's just that the right one, is very hard to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:17 PM
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The guys perspective literally is pump and dump. If the women think that he choose the friend as well because they were friends with the original chick then that is just false.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:11 PM
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Your last paragraph is the reality of most married men lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:10 PM
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Not only are you not engaging in what is being said, you've also shown that you're toxic and full of baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:47 PM
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From a biological perspective yes. Being a man is always better. No periods. More mental stability. Muscles etc. But from a social perspective, the mediocre man is invisible. No one would care about your male equivalent. You'd basically be an incel hating on your current female self lol. And what have you accomplished exactly? That sounds interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:20 PM
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You'd be your male equivalent, not your crush.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:16 AM
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You'd be your male equivalent. Not your crush.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:13 AM
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It's the truth. The consequences of this are that many dudes aren't liked but hey, because this is so offending the women usually use made up excuses to avoid the drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:30 PM
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Those can hardly be called normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:45 AM
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Because they lack dignity. Their desperation took a hold of them and they forsook their dignity because of it. Its disgusting self shaming behavior to persist after a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:14 PM
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And then they claim people arent monogamous by nature. If that was the case, why are hookups, fwbs and anything without substance so empty?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:55 PM
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I think the indepence is ruined by all the simps simping around. Giving people overinflated egos, which lead to a weird heightening of supposed natural attraction standards. Without it, I think we would have truly indendent women who were allowed to grow instead of simps ruining everything and that would be awesome honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:53 PM
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Being lied to doesnt feel good. Now I personally would be gone if that even is mentioned. Some however, get aggressive because of being lied to and double down. But then again, these may be beyond saving either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:08 PM
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So it seems social calibration and charisma are able to save one from troubles. Glad I have them then lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:06 PM
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Simps be ruining everything for real. Driving down the value of man. The more time passes, the more their lack of dignity is disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:04 PM
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Its the safest path to gauge interest. If I give the digits, and nothing no message. Then it means no interest. So leave that girl alone and that is that. But these simps wanna force people to like them it seems. Like dude, accept free will and move on
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:00 PM
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Then they are creeps what can one say. Or people without dignity. If I go and ask something, and youre like no, Im gone. No need to waste each others time with desperate nonsense. The issue is tho, that sometimes women kinda expect everyone to be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:58 PM
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Because it has been used falsely. Just saying I dont feel you or something is better. Then if they persist, thats a real creep right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:47 PM
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You see if there is compatibility with the conversation by asking things before giving the digits to the girl. At least I do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:40 PM
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Sounds a lot like prostitution. Hard pass. its 2024. That stuff is outdated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 11:14 AM
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Whenever I tell that I get called the bad guy. Smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 08:46 AM
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I think my reference point is just a different one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:23 PM
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Now I'm even more confused lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:09 PM
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I think you misunderstood what I was saying there. I'm not saying that it's the woman's responsibility to take care of the guys feelings. Whether it's the ones in situationships (aka fuckzone) or the ones in the friend zone, it's the responsibility of the zoned to adapt to the situation. What I'm saying is that a certain gesture will always show up by the zoner if the friendship part was any real to begin with. And this gesture is what I outlined above. If one genuinely cares about the other as …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:00 PM
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Napoleon had traumas. Josephine wasn't anything special.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:21 PM
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You don't even believe in your reply yourself. And you expect others to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:04 PM
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That is what you are overlooking. The mutually beneficial part. At the start, where no romance was involved on either side, it was a balanced dynamic between 2 friends. But once it did, the balance got thrown off to one side. Its not the womans fault here, attraction happens. But to lack understanding and expect to still remain friends unter such an unbalanced dynamic is very wrong no matter how you spin it. The healthy thing to do here is to go and say, "hey, I think you are developing feelings…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 10:06 AM
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This. And youd think its mutual cause all the falling in love with personality propaganda. Sadly it wasnt so.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:53 AM
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So you want to be biased and unfair cause its to your benefit...gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:49 AM
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The Username doesnt fit the content of the post at all. How ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:43 AM
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What are those obvious reasons? This is a genuine question. I do not think the ammount of women with male only or mostly male friendgroups is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:35 AM
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Well if we talk about the dark side of genders, lets explore womens manipulativeness and calloussness as well. Otherwise its just unfair propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:32 AM
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For the company yeah. For us it's just how we do man. And completely inventing something out of scratch happens ultra rarely. Mostly it's either improving on a foundation by a ton, or copying nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 06:42 AM
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Nothing to do with what you were saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 06:42 AM
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As someone who invents as a hobby (still have to do something of note tho) inventing is just a passion. No inventor actually thought about the long term consequences of his invention. We are just chasing a dopamine rush cause we love solving problems. A dude invented vr as a hobby in his backyard for example. Now of course corporate then comes and ruins everything... But they always do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 08:49 PM
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Friend zone just means no bodily attraction. The old school methods still work if the girl is attracted to you. Therefore, making lots of female friends is not a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 08:45 PM
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Corporate benefits a huge amount from atomization. It's a very short term thinking but that's what capitalism is fundamentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 08:42 PM
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They need to get taxed out the economy. Since dating apps arrived, and social media allowed non friends to follow instead of simply view(instagram), society in general, not just dating, has gone more narc and more superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 08:14 PM
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The irony you ignore is that simps get nothing! Simping needs to be exposed as the disease it is. It is to be shamed, ostracized and ridiculued. Anyone partaking in it has to be expelled from the group. This whole weak men epidemic is getting more irritating by the day
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 08:06 PM
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Werent yall meant to be nice to one another? Lunatic is kinda harsh
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:57 PM
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I think this is the truth honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:54 PM
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Trust Issues are the norm nowadays. What you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:52 PM
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The Us is like Russia but richer. Meaning, some areas are richer and all that, but the rest is a 3rd world mess. Russia is mostly a 3rd world mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:49 PM
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So women spawn babies out of thin air now? How interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:45 PM
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Yeah. Nerds are this and that, and then "we invented bla bla". No dude, you invented jack.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:43 PM
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This assumes women are somehow pacyfing male aggression which avoids the prison atmosphere. Considering all the "kill all men" stuff and how in the west men are seen as trash, I do not think that is the case. Thus, its incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:39 PM
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My grandma and grampa worked the field equally in the village. I think tho entering the official job market was bound to half wages regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:34 PM
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Stop trying to excuse simping with evolutionary bogus.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:01 PM
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Well, as I've come to sadly conclude, capitalism has seeped into dating and so it's really turned into a disgusting market. Normies by simping have increased demand for the average chick, who then selects the best specimens, "Chads", which in turn lowers female demand for average. So the only ones the average has sway in, is where Chad would never bother for a hookup. Of course this ridiculous situation can be solved if women internalized that hookup attraction and relationship attraction are ut…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 05:43 PM
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The thing it seems, is that attraction is a feeling that can be generated and lost. So it's always gonna be a weird balancing act.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:19 AM
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I'm not into bias. I'd advise against such beliefs. There's sub clinical narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:55 PM
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Maybe not in your country. But I'll make sure it happens in Germany where I live. The parliament will be easy to convince with all the extra taxes. And here I was wondering what could possibly be the solution when it was that simple all along lol. Ich bin Feuer und flame lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 10:31 AM
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Once dating apps get taxed to oblivion and Instagram is made to only allow friends to follow you, the internet will once again be a net positive. The age of superficial relationships is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 10:27 AM
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You can. Dating apps will get huge, huge tax burdens till they go bankrupt. And Instagram will have to only have friends be able to add you, unless you're a celeb. Problem solved. Time to get the legislation going.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 10:08 AM
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Considering our ancestors were radically more disciplined and had way more standards, that's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 10:06 AM
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Simps destroyed dating basically. Lol. I knew it wasn't feminism as these red pill dudes claim, but simping and having no standards. We all want models, but dating used to work regardless before this whole simping epidemic happened. There is it seems still hope to save the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 10:04 AM
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The last point is the truth. People are more narcissistic nowadays. It's not a woman thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 09:55 AM
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"normal" people aren't on reddit. Checkmate atheists.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 02:13 PM
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The evidence disagrees. You're rationalizing at this point. What's true and our ideas often don't mesh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 10:27 PM
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Cause most people are mentally weak. That's why. Well adjusted is hardly the right word to use. More like, hero worshipping infants. It literally takes merely delusional self conviction to convince people of anything one wants (I've done that a couple of times, was kinda fun and kinda sad at the same time) because most people are hero worshippers and hyper insecure. I guess this is why hierarchys developed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 10:17 PM
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They do not. That's the whole point. History, anthropology, common sense and more plainly state that it's complete bogus to connect the economic principles to biology. You thinking it's not bogus won't change that. It will just mean that you're holding a belief. Which is fine ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 09:36 PM
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You have a point there. Its the incensitve of family. Without it, most men will live minimalist lives. Cause, If I don't have my son to feed and a family to see well off, why should I chase the promotion? Why should I do something dangerous that pays well? Why should I advance if not to provide a better life to family and wife? With no family and an empty apartment or your occasional hook up, you will absolutely have no reason to go above and beyond. Cause for what? Spend that money to see Dubai…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 09:33 PM
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You are clearly advocating that the economic aspect (men expendable, women inherent value, hypergamy etc) is biological when we know from growing evidence that that is obviously and absolutely false. That is simping. You cant just say its reality when the evidence speaks against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 09:03 PM
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Can doesnt mean biologically intended. You can also eat poison. Now what? Like seriously think thinks through. What would realistically happen in this harem like society you portray? Do the simulation to see how quickly this tribe would die from inbreed genetic mutations. So first you deny that its all economic and has nothing to do with biology, and now you want to agree with me that its all economic and has nothing to do with biology? Why? This contradicts your first statement above. Like this…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:49 PM
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Im devils advocate here, just for clarity. Why would one buy a graphic card if you can get a gaming laptop and wait till it becomes the new potato? Health gymming and looks gymming are very different. The latter is whats economically costly. The Parents would hardly demand anything astronomical. The thing is, even with friends and all that, one still has that inkling for a companion that friends and travel serve to distract from. its cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:33 PM
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The proponents of this disposability myth have never actually gone far to simulate enough generations. Then theyd realise that this, like hypergamy, leads to incest and is thus not biologically feasable. Its cope. Now as for it being significantly more dangerous in nature for women to give birth than men, (death of the mother was way way more common in nature), that leads to death. And this, cannot be avoided by anything. So supposed special selective crieria are again, a product of not actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:25 PM
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Those three are the only solutions. Adoption, Cuck or the actual father. The rest of men are not messing with single moms anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:16 PM
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Well of course. No one will willingly disrespect himself, unless he is a cuck. We will not take responsibility for another mans offspring. END OF DEBATE
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:07 PM
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When one compares the overly individualistic germanic tribes and the society that was Rome and how men and women were treated in both, that is more than wrong. Men are not expendable by nature, women are also not oppressed by nature. Enter society, and you get male expendability and women are subjugated (or in the west nowadays, men are subjugated) Etc. This has absolutely nothing, and I mean nothing, to do with actual biology, but societal and economic reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:02 PM
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Orphanages exist. Men already care for abandoned children. However, no man will personally in his personal life raise the children of a single mother. Adopted children are something else. So if single mothers want their children to have a father, they should give them up for adoption and some man and his wife will adopt them most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:59 PM
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The biological marketplace is bogus tho. Always has been. Animals have peace making rituals and emotionns like we do. Reproduction costs free testosterone and is not free(as nothing in this world is) etc etc. Humans are animals simply means humans are living beings. Briffaults law is major cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:51 PM
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If one doesnt go to the gym as a guy, groceries are very very cheap. Rent, when you live in some remote ghostown, also cheap. Gaming is also very very cheap if you buy the right pcs and laptops.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:43 PM
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The Political Powers are just a group of interests that are constantly at each others throat. No one cares about birth rates or anything of that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:09 PM
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Briffaults Law ignores most of hiuman history. It was the elders, and by extension the Patriarch who always had the last say. And that sometimes to the detriment of all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:07 PM
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Most women in the lower social strata, did work like men. my grandparents are from the village (i am not from the US) and my grandma did all the field work just as much as my grandpa. Because of experiences like this I have come to the conclusion that its not feminism, but specific people(mostly spoiled westerners) who behave like that. That is why its feminists, not feminism that is the issue most times.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:57 PM
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Any radical position will fail. Even Emperors had advisors. I think this whole traditional stuff is bogus anyway. What works is the company model. The man is the Ceo of the family unit, everyone, mainly the children, is a shareholder, and the Woman is the Secretary and Advisor to the family unit. Both should be complementary to each other. And when frustration concerning disputes occurs (which it will) it should be decided by a contract between the two that the two previously agreed on. If the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:25 PM
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It's quite the tragedy that healthy food is considered a luxury nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:42 PM
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That's still at least 800 difference tho. I'm doing a very budget friendly eating regimen atm. But I can see it being 1200 when done well. But 2000 is a little too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:37 PM
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You got the wrong one buddy. We agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:32 PM
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You could have said Shakira. Or any other good looking one. Why Margot Robbie? Margot Robbie is what women think men like whilst we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 07:32 PM
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The price on its own is not.(I'm sure his post was satire) But paying whatever is needed for food is always reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 07:30 PM
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He'll learn I am sure. If he could make the money, he can improve the mindset as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:28 PM
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Except for the steroids and testosterone and food, his expenses are indeed too much. But that still doesnt explain it I think his mentality might be the issue here. He probably self improved to gain chicks. Wasting so much money for chicks is insane to me. But then again its his money...id just not recommend it I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:14 PM
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This kinda sounds hard to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:48 PM
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Average women he said. Doesnt appear outside his league to me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:47 PM
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Doesn't stop yall from gaming them. But then again, they kinda refuse to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:59 AM
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I think most people enjoy the attention of someone who desires them even if they do not like the person. Thus, you are kinda being dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:11 PM
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Cause sex aint romance for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:03 PM
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Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:01 PM
1

Since times immemorial, women had to learn to be very shrewd because men, at least our ancestors, were very warlike. During those times, an unschrewd woman, was as lucky as a physically weak man, that is to say, dead or exiled. Thus, it should not surprise at all. Young women get to practice more. And are thus, more manipulative. They are not naive at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:39 PM
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I would disagree. But then again, I am just 22 and plan on being a bachelor until I find someone I like to abandon the bachelor life so, my opinion doesnt really count here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:29 PM
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she wants to feel that you are gross so that she can ignore what you said. Its not reasoning at all. But self protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:10 PM
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Given how younger women learn to game dudes of all ages, very unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:06 PM
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Bit of both. Being older sucks for anyone. And at that stage, anyone serious already either found someone or decided to not bother completely. The only ones trying are well...The nopes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:05 PM
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I'm not really talking about your case specifically nor about the individual harm of certain actions on a micro scale. I'm talking about harm from mass behavior. Mass emotional high chasing by women, and spineless behavior by men is as harmful to the nation as killing is harmful to an individual. You not being able to see this obvious issue, doesn't mean something is wrong with me. The only thing it means is that your perspective is very limited. And that you're not in it for the intellectual ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:11 AM
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People can also choose to kill and rape. Doesn't make it a good idea. And I'm not just blaming women here. Both genders have become an utter dissapointment to me. The men have lost their spine and what made them men. And the women selfishly chase their emotional high at the cost of the nation's future. I have no hope in either. Just leave me out is what I want. I do not want anything in the consequences of yalls behavior whatsoever. Yall can be selfish and undisciplined as much as yall want, jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:57 AM
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They (this is the a big chunk of married couples after long enough BTW) would be better of divorced or not even together in the first place I agree. But that doesn't really change the fact that their individual happiness comes at a national cost. Nothing in this world is free. It always has a cost to it. It remains a fact tho that it's better that an individual suffer, than that the whole nation collapse. (which is where we are heading). So I say, do what ye will. I just hope the consequences of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:47 AM
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Serial break ups happen due to chasing this unattainable permanent high(which everyone in the past knew was superfluous and immature to do. But we have forgotten it nowadays) The rest of the world will be fine yes, the West will decline and collapse however. I just hope it's not in my lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:24 AM
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The entirety of human history disagrees. Marriage used to be a duty, because the romance fades and attraction as well. Nowadays, romanticism has people believe in fairy tales, thus long term commitment (which is boring compared to the fairy tales) is slowly dying out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:53 AM
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I don't think your reply was meant for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 07:07 PM
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Fair enough I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:08 PM
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Would agree. I think for dudes without mommy issues, the idea of choosing a mate who reminds them of their mom sounds very.... Unappealing lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:56 PM
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Idk about them but for me, most are just not eliciting my interest. I know deep down that I'm not gonna value my future gf as much as I valued her so there's that. But I do think what you say applies to dudes out there. They're the same kind who'd pay for of as well. They need some male role models to get more self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:44 PM
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I'd say it's accurate and also universal. We all have that someone we wanted who didn't want us in the end for whatever reason. So that when one does get into a relationship, one wants the current partner less than the one who got away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:37 PM
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The mother as the potential first love is beyond bunk. Freud had some issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:35 PM
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That's the wrong mindset as the first love need not be a gf necessarily. Both men and women have wanted someone who didn't want them back. Thus, it's kinda hard to escape.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:34 PM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:33 PM
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The one who got away will still remain a memory even if you have a harem by that point. This is an emotional, rather than a sexual thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:26 PM
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😎
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:21 PM
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Whatever helps you sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:45 PM
1

If you say so
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:00 PM
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Preaching to the choir.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:53 AM
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"By Zeus's Ball Hairs! What a damnable compendium! I, Olaf the Wise, Son of Olaf the Elder, have seen the horrors of war. I was raped by 6 Berserkers whilst on my way to drink water! I have seen the Horrors of what is called Discord and forced to partake in the rituals! My ears were despoiled by Taylor Swifts demonic chants! My entire Family was genocided before my eyes whilst I was only 1 Month Old! And much more Evil I was forced to endure! But this? This has even me shook! These hoes! Nay I s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:26 PM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:17 PM
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Sure. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:13 PM
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its not a debate if the other side is full on delulu.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:07 PM
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And Im Superman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:05 PM
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What you wrote makes no sense and you know it. Just admit that youre dodging the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:03 PM
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Dodging that accountability like Kryptonite lol. Impressive. Your parents must be very proud.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:58 PM
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Take the L like a champ. Or continue getting burned. Your life your choices, and your consequences to bear. These men will continue living the life. And will find the one they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:50 PM
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Or you stop chasing dudes who dont want you. They will have kids with the woman they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:39 PM
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Its chill man. No worries.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:38 PM
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I guess its the topic. Its one thing to say, women slut shame women not close to them. Since, as a behavior slut shaming is predominantly done by women. Like, we may not date a slut, but we aint shaming no one(most of the time). But another thing to say, women hang with other similar minded women. As if its this strange other species of being doing something that is actually pretty normal to do. Idk, thats how it seemed to me at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:22 PM
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Again this othering language is weird. People hang with similarly minded people. Not exclusive to women. Anyway, at the end of the day, you are right. I am just saying one can never be sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:10 PM
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How would we know to begin with lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:01 PM
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In the past, the community took care that no one was single. Dating is just an unnatural thing that will not work out in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:50 PM
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Thanks. Well be needing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:45 PM
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That is very rare. Youre just in a good environment to not notice how shit things are elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:43 PM
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That is why divorce has to be penalized. Unless there is verifiable abuse or an actual good reason( and it will be verifiable. Compare Johny Depp) then Divorce will not be allowed. Over and done.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:40 PM
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Its very rare thats why its kinda hard to accept. Yall sound like good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:33 PM
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the 1940s or 1910s arent the past I am talking about. Thats very, very recent. If people in the past catered to sexual attraction like nowadays, most of us would not have been born. That was the reality for most of history. Avoid repulsion, but accept mediocrity. The only ones who could cater to attraction were the upper classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:31 PM
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Well, I am not from the US (most reddit people are from the US) so perhaps what you say applies to the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:28 PM
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I think there is a difference between sex one does not want to have, and feeling neutral about sex until it happens and happening to enjoy it. The first is not something common unless its the second type of dead bedroom or some other reason like stress or low self esteem behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:24 PM
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Women who use dating apps are a specific demographic tho
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:16 PM
2

When it comes to the essentials, men do think all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:15 PM
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Why would your friends openly admit what they did? Slut shaming is done primarily by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:12 PM
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Child Support, which is intended for the child, will get you a better lifestyle whilst you falsely claim to be responsible with the money, yes. But the dude will rather pay it than stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:01 PM
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Considering that in the past sexual unattraction/repulsion was avoided and attraction seen as superfluous, this has nothing to do with evolutionary anything. its just a symptom of modernity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:56 PM
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You will never chain them. Accept your fate and preserve your dignity instead of being a simp. Their freedom to choose who they want to commit to, will stay unchanged and unchallenged. Its up to you to adapt. Not them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:53 PM
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You make the assumption that these women do not know what they are getting into. In reality, they, usually by getting pregnant, hope to force the dudes hand to commit to them. When the guy does in fact, not want to commit at all. And as usual, it does not work. But in the minds of these kinds of women(not all), getting that treatment, is way better than having a normal relationship with a guy they perceive as lower on the value hierarchy. Its nothing more than eugenics fueled by modern narcisism…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:50 PM
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Its feeling defensive. They dodge the issue by getting hyper specific, cause one hit the nail on the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:48 PM
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Those dead beat fathers did not want to be fathers in the first place. Yall think yall can force them to stay by getting pregnant, wrong. Extremely, and utterly wrong. If someone does not want to commit, woman up and leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:45 PM
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Stop othering women so much. Just imagine yourself in a similar situation. Like, you are the bubbly cool guy on the Job Interview, but when you get the Job you are not. Is it because you were playing mastermind this entire time, or because you think that is what the Boss wants from you to get the Job, see that he does not mind you stopping to be it and carry on as your usual self? Most dead Bedrooms occur because of a lack of expectations setting. When one makes clear the expectations, a dead be…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:41 PM
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People crave novelty in general. Its not a women thing. Which is why in the past, divorce was penalized. Ruining a relationship for novelty is the epitomy of stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:36 PM
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I think they do. No one could be that naive nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:52 AM
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When you put it that way... I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:51 AM
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You're signing up to get used for a green card and or western money. The actual women to whom your statement applies, marry their own people most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:43 AM
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It's not funny as most of these guys are seen as a green card chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:41 AM
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A lower libido would lead to higher arousal thresholds. That's exactly what you're describing and then you call it hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:10 AM
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That's true. The value used to be "avoid physical unattraction" now it's flipped to "attain physical attraction". Which will inevitably lead to incest. Cause only few dudes have the genes to generate that in a woman. The more time goes by the more I think humanity is just a very sad thing as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:43 PM
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Most dudes nowadays have dangerously low free testosterone cause of addiction to sex and or other stuff. Giving away life energy for nothing. Among other things. I commend you for realizing the harm in trying to cope with insecurity using sex. Now all you have to do is not fall into your old addiction and break your boyfriend's heart. To do that, just identify all your triggers and avoid them like the plague. I wish the both of you a long lasting and healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:39 PM
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Okie dokie.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 07:29 PM
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Okie dokie.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 07:27 PM
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Okie dokie.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 07:27 PM
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I guess it depends on the region. I'm on SR(semen retention) You're kinda describing heaven. Since ejaculating lowers free testosterone(don't tell it to the addicts. Will get them mad) . Being able to enjoy Sex without having to also lose testosterone in the process sounds like bliss! I wonder if one could get there with enough practice. 🤔 If that is the case, would women having casual Sex not be only for self esteem boosts? But then again, I would assume that getting the nerves stimulated is pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 07:27 PM
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I personally would say idk how it's in the US in that situation. That's why I thought you're American. But yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:32 PM
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I used a US situation(single mom with children from multiple different men) and you refuted it in a way that gave me the impression that you are American.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:27 PM
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That is plausible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:14 PM
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No argument. I have enough debating at law school, no interest in more sry. This is my vacation week. That is the complaint I hear from US guys. But, youre the american so imma give you the benefit of the doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:13 PM
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Oh I get it. You want to argue, not discuss. The only reason that would happen is if a, you ignore the points entirely. or b, you want to defend hypergamy for whatever reason. Both of which make you intellectually dishonest and not a good partner to discuss things with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:08 PM
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That does make sense. Lemme fix the pseudocode then, If low libido true ->avg guy NOT John/Rapist if hypergamy true ->avg guy == John/Rapist Voula. Therefore, if hypergamy is real, the avg guy has it very bad. Since emotional attraction, dominance and talents and all that, kinda do not matter if the other party is hardwired to find you repulsive all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:55 PM
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Oh I see now. I think i need to specify that this is one woman having children from different men. So, Stacys daughter is from John, her Sohn from Mike and her other Son from Steve. Hypergamy would be directly in contrast to this. But, libido behavior would perfectly explain it. That is to say, since women due to the lower libido would rarely meet someone who excites them, they would have less experience managing it and thus you get the whole US single mom fiasco.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:34 PM
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oh no. Not at all. I think putting it in pseudocode is better. If low libido true ->having relationship with avg guy NOT rape or prostitution If hypergamy true -> having relationship with avg guy == rape or prostitution I hope its less confusing now. Actual rapists and Johns have nothing to do with this. Rather, the nature of the relation the average guy has to women is very different if hypergamy is real vs if its just low libido giving the illusion of hypergamy. Edit: The edited answer still m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:28 PM
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The average US man is fat and stuff. That is why I used the specification. He is below the global average and the european average. And I am very confused as to what you mean now. What do rapists and johns have to do with this? I dont compute.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:17 PM
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But liking has nothing to do with attraction tho. I am talking about starting point attraction in particular. But you said that a woman would want only the childrens of one man, yet in the US there are many who have children from many men. Does thou seest the disconnect?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:14 PM
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Would that not make it a conscious decision? The US Single moms with multiple children from different fathers disagree with you. (I'm not from the US tho.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:01 PM
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How can one be very promiscuous and selective at the same time? I dont compute Im afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:41 PM
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The only difference in effect between the low libido and hypergamy is that in the second, the average(on the european street. Not the US) guy is not repulsive and a biological offense, thus a relationship with him would not be rape or prostitution. Whilst with hypergamy it would be rape or prostitution in all instances. Both lead to discrimination, but have very different outcomes for the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:37 PM
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Being reluctant and selective out of conscious consideration due to the consequences of getting pregnant would produce the same results. It doesn't require it to be an innate instinct. Or it's simply a needed harmony for a functioning sexual dymorphic union. That is to say, one has to be testosterone dominant and one estrogen dominant out of practical concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:27 PM
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That is the classic point. Women get pregnant, so they have to be more selective. But at least from recent history, that selectivity has rarely been exercised. Women were given in marriage by the order of the father. Or they were taken by the winning soldiers who defeat their home nation. And this during times when there was civilization. How much more brutal was it for the average woman during primitive times? In other words, hypergamy cannot be anything more than libido and the contrast princi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:19 PM
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If we go by the whole evolutionary framework for a moment, being selective would be moot. On a macro level, The Great King of Akad will come and take his spoil, and do his will, and subjugate all men opposing him and impregnate their wives and daughters, even if he is a short ugly manlet. On a micro level, the most aggressive guy would come and kill the male family members first, and then do his will. Even if he was just big and ugly. Thus, I don't really think that any sort of evolutionary fram…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:09 PM
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To summarize, I'm disagreeing that character can arouse people. Be they men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 12:26 PM
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You were saying that most men struggle cause they are wimps and lack character and don't know how to please a woman, and also that women have an inherent different arousal mechanism. The first point is only about relationships and is missing the point. The second one you did not elaborate on and just stated it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 12:20 PM
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You're kinda missing the point here. Relationships, due to their long term nature, force a compromise and kinda willingness to settle. So, women choosing bf that are good bf and leaders for that, doesn't really disprove or prove anything about the attraction. They could be doing duty sex for said boyfriends all the time for all we know. What I am talking about is starting point attraction. And whether this is due to an inherent low libido, or hypergamy. That the average man is not attractive at …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 12:11 PM
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Are you then suggesting the libido is equal? Why then would the average man be unattractive? Hypergamy? The thing with hypergamy is that it's doomed to lead to incest if given free reign. That cannot be intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:26 AM
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I mean if it's hypergamy then the majority of men are friend zone material! Buw how do you tell this from the contrast principle apart then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:24 AM
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How come is the average man unattractive then? Would it not be the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:22 AM
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Would the same not occur for very attractive women if they hid their relationship status well? Like stringing along a couple of millionaires for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:20 AM
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Cause they're mutually exclusive. Social hypergamy perhaps. If one doesn't feel attracted to both John the accountant and Bill the Ceo, making a rational decision to choose Bill the Ceo seems easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:18 AM
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What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:15 AM
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I think the nature part is questionable. For example, the common idea that the man wants to spread the seed makes sense. But then, SR raises free testosterone levels. Why is spreading the seed then so harmful if that's the intended thing? The same I think is here. I think the whole evolutionary "psychology" is finding ways to make sense of behavior instead of finding the actual root cause of a behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:13 AM
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If women are less thirsty (which you said was the case) then why would shaming occur? What would there be to shame? Doesn't your statement here imply that women are just as thirsty? But if that's the case, for who? It sure isn't the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:27 PM
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I think once SR gets investigated and probably proven true, the trend will likely change. Edit: The benefits of exercise are also widely known and it's not common place. I retract my statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:09 PM
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It is helpful. What you are describing would be in line with an inherent lower libido due to women having less testosterone but not with hypergamy that is being propagated by the redpill. For example, due to the stress of law school and poor sleep as of late, my libido has kinda been at its lowest historically and I find myself going meh at the most amount of women. But whenever a woman behaves in naturally feminine ways such as kindness, softness etc. I feel a pull regardless of the looks being…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:58 PM
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Why does your comment kinda prove this whole hypergamy nonsense? What reason is there for the woman he cheats with to be more attractive than the wife? Its not like attractiveness on its own is enough to stop cheating from occuring, if the wife neglects the emotional aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:45 PM
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I think an alternative is here the actual solution. Namely lower libido. That is to say, because of this, women need way more beauty triggers than us to actually feel something. When women say they find most men below average, its usually in arousal generation. That is to say, most men simply do not arouse. Not hypergamy, just inherently lower testosterone. I think then the whole dating problems do stem from thinking men and women are the same then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:14 PM
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Would this not go against the whole men are women are equally sexual narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:06 PM
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Would your experience not mean that women simply need way more radical beauty triggers compared to men cause of a lower libido in order to go from meh to attracted? Would this not go against the whole, women are as sexual as men narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:55 PM
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This is false. SR raising free testosterone disproves this entire notion of constantly spreading the seed. The whole idea falls apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:30 PM
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That cannot be the case. How then would the human race procrate if everyone is the child of some Chad`in the future? Incest aint really a good idea. Therefore, it is more reasonable to assume that either women naturally need way higher beauty triggers than men do thus explaining the occurence therefore kinda making attraction a moot and difficult to achieve criteria for women, or its just modern tech influencing the standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:26 PM
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Because of their cope and dishonesty. The reason to not be black pilled is because it's a destructive, anti life philosophy that makes one miserable and is only half true(the halo effect is a documented phenomenon.). What's the point in wallowing in despair and cursing your fate? Learn to love life as it is. Unlike in OLD and social media, in real life, people do respect the right spirit and heart. Humans are inherently social. There's really no reason to adapt a black pill mindset. Compensate w…
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