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You dont seem to grasp that im mocking your lack of context for what this conversation is about. You should read things next time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:04 PM
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Ok Mother Teresa. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:51 PM
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Nuns dont worry about being trapped
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:56 PM
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You do not pay for your retirement. As it is the taxes of the Children you didnt have, the Children of others, that pays for it. Youre a thief if you want retirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:27 PM
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You wanting to be a thief and exploit the taxes of others Children is what is unjust.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:19 PM
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Just. the rest of us thieving from the children of others is unjust. So only they get it, we wont. Thats the only way this can be resolved. Who has no children, will never retire. No settling, no economic collapse, win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:16 PM
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Nope. Youre not reading cause you want to get triggered. Nothing you said has anything to do with what im saying. If you read to understand, you would know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:01 PM
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yes, but we are discussing something else here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:00 PM
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Cause you want to project that unto Einstein. Words have definitions. But anyway, I got all gifted individuals in history, and you got some academic average intelligent people. Thus my argument stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:58 PM
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If you dont know what a simple word like masochist means, then...yikes...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:56 PM
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Settling means being sexually penetrated by a man you cant stand. Bro..do you just read to get triggered or what? Lol. Like read the sentence again. This time slowly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:55 PM
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Your masochists dont prove anything lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:52 PM
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You realize retierment NEEDS young people to pay taxes? Now how do these get born? Magic? The male mind is just fine. Yours however is non sequitur on sterioids. like I could not care any less for this gender bs. I do not care about any of this. Im literally arguing pragmatic talking points here. Yalls gender wars are none of my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:41 PM
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You got that wrong. Most psychologically abused men who have to work on their internal world a lot have admitted such a thing. Like who, that is normal, would want to have some chick treat him like shit cause she had to settle for someone she doesnt want? that is not psychologically healthy. Thats masochism at its core.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:37 PM
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Yes. And ofc, those women and men who dont have children must work till they die because ONLY people with children can retire. As is just. Now, I personally DO NOT accept the pragmatic solution here, which is settling. Society does not deserve men to live miserable lives with women who cant stand them just to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:35 PM
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From Al Kwarizmi, to Newton, to Einstein and Tesla, everyone despised established Academia(due to reasons that are many and quite despicable). Do you honestly think that your academic circles will have the correct population in them in order to draw a correct conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:30 PM
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The solution is simple tho. All old people who had no children, must work till death. That way women dont have to settle and make the lives of men miserable. Its a win win.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:23 PM
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People can still not want to be settled for and complain about the situation without advocating for settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:20 PM
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Which men are happier married? the 99th percentile?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:04 PM
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thats actually false. Both the retarded and the gifted are religious. Irreligiousity is common among average people the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:00 PM
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You sound awesome. Your Husband is a lucky man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:00 PM
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in which world do you believe this to have happened? Feministan?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:55 PM
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Not my point at all actually. "Millions of men approach millions of women in this world" Reality: Why are men not approaching anymore? Why would we do ourselves the risk of losing job, reputation damage, possibly jail etc etc, to date? It only takes ONE egotistical chick to ruin us. Just one. Thanks for proving that you have absolutely no and exactly 0 understanding about the risks men face today, and that you, like his supposed friends, just want to shut the guy up, possibly getting annoyed tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 01:10 PM
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I repeat, Now if they asked and the person they knew wasn't interested...why would they assume some random chick would be? What believable reason is there for someone to think that? Dude, yall know how yall think better than me, stop the virtue signalling, no one is buying it in 2024. How do yall expect anyone with at least a modicum of social skills to believe what youre saying? Clearly its most likely an attempt to shut him up due to getting annoyed and/or not even understanding the repurcussi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 12:17 PM
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Given the current trends , of course they have single friends to introduce him to. Singledom is massively on the rise. Now if they asked and the person wasn't interested...why would they assume some random chick would be? It's obvious she would not be. It's clear then that these so called friends had ulterior motives. Perhaps sadism or just some uncaring attempt to shut him up.
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If they really thought that they'd introduce him to someone they know instead of a random chick who might call the police.
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Its not imagined. But sticking to people who want you back eliminates it completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 04:11 PM
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its cause they assume a dickhead situation where the woman will be like" my money is my money, your money is our money"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 01:59 PM
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The way things are going, I think the red pillers will win and teleport us to the stone age. Like these people are literally giving them plus points at every possible opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:46 PM
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Men arent leaders. Individuals are leaders. And the rest, men and women and children, follow. As it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:15 PM
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Cause she married a guy she didnt even like and is playing her cards?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:14 PM
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Preach. They really tell themsevles that mens choice in the matter doesnt matter as if were shopping items.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:07 PM
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Read the newest version of the post. Not what I was saying at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 06:53 PM
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You should like...you know...google it and understand the connection im making and why...and then respond? Like im not doing this with yall anymore. You people will step it up and understand first and speak second. All of you. Im tired of yalls nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:05 PM
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What a suprise. Look at who is here. And is...actually sort of addressing the point for once. Wow. I will only say it all boils down to paradox of choice which is a documented psychological phenomenon. But that I had to tell chatgpt to simplify it for an 8 year old to understand is really, really sad. Yall need to step it up. Why should I have to simplify my speech? Like ok, chatgpt can do it for me now, but, that wont always be convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:58 PM
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You mean self report studies? Yeah.... I mean, lets assume its the small sample size ok. Complaints like these come...often in all three directions. Rent, Jobs, Dating....If everyone just so happens to complain of the same thing...its indicative of a trend. Not self report studies. Self report studies can be polished as much as they can, the inhrernt methodology is just unreliable. I mean...fair point. I dont have stats on all the law students. Fair point. No I know, and we have talked about it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:11 AM
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What makes you say its by choice? Those stats are what was UNTIL now. I dont see it as true. I used to study Law, which had plenty of women in it. And still the majority of the people there, were single. So its not a matter of environment. Well sure, that I dont deny. But...why are my friends and other people I know still single then? Even though they dont want it to be so. They dont have my issues. Theyre normal, unlike me. Heck, I would be normal looking in a room of 30 year olds too. I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 10:30 AM
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Who's a Polish immigrant? That bit is confusing? I used to buy into that but it also starts to fall apart. Most of people in my generation are single. Normal looking people. Not some obese neckbeards. Normal and well adjusted people. The ones I know who do have gf, did so because they had a wide enough social circle, which among my generation is getting very rare. Like the argument doesn't hold up to scrutiny. It has nothing to do with being unnatractive but with not being some perfect ideal. Ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:12 AM
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You think Brad Pitt would need his photos modernized if he was in Bundys place?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 09:08 AM
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Bro, my sisters think he's ugly. And so do female friends I have and most women my generation. Like you've literally PROVEN my point. You realize that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:51 AM
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Your experience as a non gen Z is so different, you think things haven't changed. But from our experience it's clear as day that it's very very tough out there. Like that alone should be saying something.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:49 AM
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Ted Busy would be called ugly by my generation Gen Z is the whole point. Like dude... tired of this bad debate practice y'all have. Read the actual points or don't respond. It's not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:37 AM
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I would refrain from using any stats that haven't been made at least from 2025. Stats are slow. The needed stats have yet to be conducted. Most of Gen Z is single. Like I'm starting to understand why they keep saying men are obsessed with us. Why do you focus on "gilrfriend"? Explain that to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:37 AM
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What I'm trying y'all to get to understand is, the "not enthusiastic" part was NOT like this before. Sure people were picky. But back then Ted Bundy was called handsome. Ted freaking Bundy. Women's attraction has been artificially ruined. None of this is healthy or normal. It never happened this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 07:33 AM
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"she is better off single" i mean...sure, for the limited period of a couple of years. But then you realize that you actually want someone...and youll die alone in a nursing home. Some cope with this by getting sperm donors. Some do it another way. None of that is healthy and normal. Like the argument of the women here is that women have been prostituting themselves to men, hate most men, would hate their life if they have to deal with the men in their vicinity...and so on and so on. Thats not o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:55 PM
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Like this phenomenon is psychological, not gender tied. It doesnt matter what it is, all boards need to go. Dating or job. Everyone needs to see the real options they have in reality. And it not happening will be catastrophic. The Red Pill people will blame it all on women and migrants, and just catapult us to the stne age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:27 PM
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Someone actually engaging with the point for once. Yeah, I agree. We agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:24 PM
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Well they have to be removed. Japanese Ghost towns are the future globally(except in Israel) otherwise. Indeed, instagran, Linkedin...all of that hast to vanish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:09 PM
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Who cares about that stuff dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:08 PM
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But by definition thats not the statistical majority. Most times its looking down upon the options in search of nebulous things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:06 PM
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I meant more the attitude. I am not advocating for prostituttion. thats the thing...None of that makes any sense. Its not normal to hate most men and want only a minority. None of it actually makes sense. Unless its the illusion of choice as I propse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:02 PM
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Yeah, like thats what im saying. Many of the people here are really misandrist and toxic. Those weird "no one owes you anything" people. Dude, you pay taxes for a reason, societies dont work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:45 PM
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Youre confused cause you strawman all the time. Of course youd be confused. Why dont you actually ask instead of assuming. You speak for yourself. Read the Room of this thread, more like the mood of all the misandrists who seem to imply that most men are garbage and that women would hate their lives if dating apps were no more a thing cause they would have to now spend time looking at the rest of men in their actual vicinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:40 PM
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Society is getting isolated. Most try to meet online. Its not bots, thats cope. But its more men than women thats true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:33 PM
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Its an answer since the apps aint collapsing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:31 PM
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"women..women women..." Actual content: What im saying is that under NORMAL circumstances, you see who you like, and who likes you back. Those are your ACTUAL options to pick from. The Illlusion of choice however, leads you to ignore them, even if you like them(be it candidate, partner, or renting person) for the "better option" out there, which will never come. Thus, leading to the phenomenon described above. People ignore choices they would otherwise be happy with, for a drug essentially. Stra…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:30 PM
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I am telling you that we can wan to be with a woman who loves us and love her genuinely and also want it all at the same time. Its not mutually exclusive for us is what im saying. Your womansplaining is toxic dude. And so are your assumptions that we would default to dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:25 PM
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Liberal, non religious jews have 2.5 nice try.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:20 PM
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israel disagrees. Not buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:14 PM
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No, all I said was, dating apps give the illuson of choice and make people ignore the people they like now, for some nebulous perfect match a swipe away. And that removing them is a good thing. You said what you said in response. Implying that yall hate most men, cause its most men you have to deall with when there is no dating apps to distract. None of this is a me problem stop dodging the issue. Its not normal to hate most men bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:12 PM
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A peasant. A prince had to follow the Laws of Intrigue, make sure he wasnt disrespected, make sure his rivals didnt get the throne, make sure the nobles stay loyal...and so on and so on. The Peasant just lived his life as free as it was possible bck then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:09 PM
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Thats not what you said dude. You said "Cope is waking up to a someone you don’t even want to breathe near and convincing yourself it’s ideal for the greater good of society" implying that yall hate most men. Thats not healthy or normal dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:56 PM
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Why would that be mutually exclusive? Like you womansplaining being a man to me hard right now. Why would our hypothetical example have one when he could have all? Build a life sure, but...why do that at that point? Why not wait till you think those 2000 are now gone?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:54 PM
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Strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:48 PM
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And another one saying that women were essentially prostitutting themselves all this time. I dont buy that bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:45 PM
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Old freedom? Sure, my dad slaving away all his life to live up to his responsibilities was free! I dont buy that argument anymore either. Are you suggesting that most women, for most of historiy, essentially prostituted themselves and now that they dont have to do it, wont? That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:41 PM
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Choice means its reciprocal. Which is why the apartments stay empty. Nope. Men with good looks have choice to bang an average chirck or too they dont like, its true. Not a choice. The actual women they want are very different to their so called "choice". Monopolies are not about winners and losers, but about bad market practices. A realistic policy solution is to scrap indeed, dating apps and similar things that contribute to the illusion of choice. No one wants to go back to 1500s lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:39 PM
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Rent going up because landlords are too indecisive in picking them best tenant is a funny take. Which is why its not my take. You havent even taken me at my point at all. How can you then not take me seriously? Just your nebulous idea of some tone and points I never made.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:34 PM
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Modernity changed all. Especially men.
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Youre an introvert and thus statistically a minority, I mean I am too but still a minority. Most people dont enjoy doing stuff alone. Well thats a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:21 PM
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Yeah.. Very convincing. No one said that That makes no sense. Ok, so women hate men as a gender with the exception of a couple dudes? Yeah right...Sure. Sounds very plausible and normal to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:18 PM
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No one is making fun of my post. And Im not mad. Why would I be mad? Harms productivity fairly quicly. Everyone knows this. Economical benefit is small af. Landlords, get hundreds of applications as well. Why do you think that rent is skyrocketing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:14 PM
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No you ditch your friends for the ounce of attention some hot guy gives you get real bro. Stop the holier than thou.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:06 PM
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Companies are mostly dudes. What will you say now? Youre so focused on the gender war that you ignore the point im making. You dont think that either of the entities are looking for a perfect fit, but they in fact are. Its not economical to leave a job position empty that your team NEEDS filled for example, or to leave apartments empty just for the hell of it. Its not a rational decision, but an emotional one due to the illusion of choice. Stop the cope. Ecnomics is psychological mostly. Its not…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:03 PM
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No, self reporting exaggerates due to shame. Its much much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:00 PM
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Thats their choice? Thats litterally a psycholgical entrapment that would have anyone react the same, and youre calling it choice? Is it a choice if I offer rotten fish to a starving man and he eats it? Or was it the psychological entrapment of the situation? Its self sabotage bro. cause its not sustainable. Stop the cope. "no one cares what you want" not how you run a society hun. Thats nonsenscial toxic bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:59 PM
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Settling would endanger child development by creating a toxic environment. Stop the cope dude. That makes no sense. It makes, zero sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:55 PM
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Social engieneering is a thing. The King used to hate consumerism cause it threatened his power for example, so he socially engineered an anti consumerist society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:44 PM
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Without women the apps would collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:43 PM
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Will you continue to think youre the center of the universe, or engage with the point Im actually making?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:41 PM
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Nah bro, we are less hoey than yall actually. Its kinda ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:39 PM
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Read the edit. I suck at writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:38 PM
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Ofc not. How could it be. They are our friends and are definetly not the ones benefiting from consumerism the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:37 PM
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And I can reject engaging with ad hominems and strawmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:28 PM
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Dude, spare me your patriarchal blue pill stuff. my generation, genz, rejects your hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:26 PM
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The environment is a psychological trap. You will fall victim to the Illusion of choice, whether you like it or not. Its not voluntary. Thats not how human psychology works.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:24 PM
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You seen the stats on my generation gen Z? That stuff is abnormal. Normally single, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:23 PM
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Well give one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:19 PM
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thats not the definition of chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:16 PM
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Well yes, the merchant class in our case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:10 PM
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What does horny have to do with that bruh? Like, you can take care of business pretty fast as a guy. You doing this on purpose for cheap points or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:06 PM
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The people historically going to wars were the fittest lol. Its only recent stuff that just anyone can grab a rifle and call himself soldier.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:04 PM
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Science minded folk right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:03 PM
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Maybe in your generation lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:03 PM
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Chad is the looks. Thats all its is. Just a hot guy. Leaders have the spirit. Not the looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 07:02 PM
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men aint socially lonely. What was your point? I have my bros and we can go and do shenanigans at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:59 PM
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They not. its all modern. Its...all modernity caused.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:59 PM
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Its simple economics. Do you want a proof by contradiciton perhaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:58 PM
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Dude, thats...gross bro. Like I get alabama porn is popular but damn... You need to stop watching that stuff. Its messing with your brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:57 PM
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Chad...the Übermensch? Sure. Some hot guy fucking cause genetic lottery is..the embodiment of the will to power. Dude, it aint tthat deep man. Napoleon was no chad. There, your entire theory is disproven.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:56 PM
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Because ITS NOT AN OPTION. Option means THEY TOO WANT IT. The expert does NOT WANT to work for the average company. The Aristocrat does NOT WANT to rent the average apartment. Hot guys DO NOT WANT average chicks. Thats the actuall isues. Yall aint getting jack. And yall are ignoring the options you also like, and like you back, for the perfect that is better than that and will never come. Its not "unfair" its self sabotage lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:54 PM
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True. Which is what all these "oh women have choice is the problem" dont get. Everyone on the demand side would do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:46 PM
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Perhaps indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:43 PM
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I dont buy these arguments anymore. I dont believe that women go through life finding ALL dudes unnatractive or whatever. I just dont. It makes no sense. Neither do I buy the whole "15 % of men got all the gals". Families require both sides to invest, and ALSO the community and extended family. the 15% nonsene would fracture things. So both are bogus. I believe, as i said, the Illusion of choice, leads the demand side, to ignore reasonable people they ARE attracted to cause...perfect is a swipe …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:40 PM
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Now that was funny lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:37 PM
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Youre with A husband because humans are social beings first. The rest is not really what I am even talking about. You mean lonely and looking at couples wishing it was you? Wow, how awesome. Im jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:36 PM
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If I look at his tinder and he gets lots of swipes, hes an ultra hot guy. Easy to empirically verify. The female collective determines male attrativeness, the male collective determines female attractiveness. deal with it. I have. See above. Nope. Not convincing at all. More like..."but I want him to want me" Yeah. I had a crush too... A crush is not an option since they dont like you back. The only actual options are the ones you like, who also like you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:34 PM
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No, but I do think reading comprehension should be equally distributed to all humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:31 PM
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Sure....Mhm. You definetly read what I said there. Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:30 PM
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That stuff happens. It wasnt an analogy at ALL. And No. If it were an analogy it would be: World renowned expert == Ultra hot guy. Average company == average girl 30k salary == her average body and personality. You cant honestly mean to tell me that this is subjective..I think youre just being not genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:22 PM
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Group? This is an issue of CULTURE. All of us are that group lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:19 PM
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Coercion? Why woudl coercion be needed? Are you telling me that you have never been a victim of the "maybe someone better is a swipe away" and it was all because you...just didnt like ALL the people? Sure bro. Keep telling yourself that. I mean hey...maybe you did, but thats actually a statistical minority. Not common at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:17 PM
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This is what I mean: saying "I don’t even need to choose a man" isn’t true. You're human, and you want to be with someone just like everyone else. Remember, you are human too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:15 PM
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mhm. Humans(men and women) see an integral part of being human, being in a relationship, as optional. Yup. Sounds very correct and true. I absolutely believe you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:12 PM
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An option is only real if the other party also thought the same. Otherwise, its an illusion. As i said in another comment, the world renowned expert is not going to work for the average company for 30k, no matter what they do. Thus its not an actual option they have. Like dude, yall aint nothing special stop this whole women this women that. Im making a societal point and yall keep saying the same on repeat, oh women this and that...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:10 PM
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How does this adresss the point im making? Sure, lets assume youre right about that... What leads to company layoffs and massive empty apartment lines? That these also realized its better to have no renting people and employees? Dude, youre not doing anything special by being on the demand side and behaving as the illusion of choice would have you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:07 PM
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Not the point. Why do yall keep stuck on women this...women that...like dudes and dudettes. Address the actual point Im making.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:03 PM
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"If you show a man 2000 women and convince him he had them all as potential mates, he would behave the same. And end up single. Stop the cap. Its the ILLLUSION of choice thats the problem." Why yall missing the point? What does any of that have to do with the point of consumerism and individualism and their effects on the individual parties?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:00 PM
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Tell that to the growing homllessness, joblessness, singledom and more. Thats not an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:56 PM
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Youre pulling a strawman. Consumerism and individualism are ruining society. Women, Landlords and Companies just so happened to be on the Demand side. The same would occur if men were on the demand side. If you show a man 2000 women and convinced him he had them all as potential mates, he would behave the same. Stop the cap. Its the ILLLUSION of choice thats the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:55 PM
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Stupid companies thinking they dont have to contirbute to the economy...stupid lanlords thinking that they can just monopolize housing...Why is you, and the other woman ignoring the rest of the post? Yall aint the star of the argument. Like...all of you/Landlords, companies etc) combined are behaving essentially the same at the moment. This cannot be a coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:53 PM
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Its an illusion of choice, which is why its causing so many issues. None of it is real. The company isnt getting the world renowned expert for 30k a year, no matter what they do. Average chicks aint getting chad. And the average landlord wont get any rich Aristocrat pay him a million for his small apartment. But the illusion of choise gives the idea that...if you wait enough..it might just happen. But you end up waiting and losing out cause it never will happen. Your actual choices havent change…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:50 PM
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Why do you focus only on women? My focus is on all of these odd players in order to make the point. Not just women. Did Companies also used to not have choice? Landlords as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:49 PM
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Giving up on finding something is not not caring about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 11:48 AM
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Taking rejection personally because of said superficiall things is placing your value on them. Otherwise you dont take it personally. Youre arguing for an oxymoron that cant exist there. Part of who you are? Something you didnt have any influence over says what about you? Nothing. It only says that an ancestor had gene X, and by chance, you got it as well. So how is that a part of you? Certainly, its a part of your genetic lottery ticket, sure. But how is it a part of you? People see it first be…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:07 AM
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I mean If you want to attach your value as a person to nonsense that will fade by the time youre 50, go ahead. You can either do your mental health a favor, or you wont. Its your choice. I would personally suggest you not do that, but hey, your life, your responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:16 PM
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its just a lack of attraction. Aint that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:02 PM
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You sound like those people who get suicidial or suddenly ultra soft and emotional when theyre old. No, your height is just your genetic lottery. So is your looks. Who you are is who you are as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:01 PM
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For those willing, God is the answer. The modern man is a nihilist, suffering in silence with no purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 07:08 PM
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Well, lets make a thought experiment. You are one of those women. Youre in a relationship. You think...its going ok. You spend time on instagram and sometimes look at your bf and think hes kinda ultra mid on that day(your beauty perceptors getting overloaded). But you dont do anything. Because, you want to have a family now and those days are behind you. In this situation you get a dead bedroom (40% of couples nowadays). And if you for whatever reason think that social media is unhealthy and avo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:19 PM
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I think explaining why the principle works will answer that. Its not, comparison between a and b that makes it work. But, adjusting of the brain to stimuli, any stimuli from any source. In the case of the houses for example, the brain is getting adjusted to the stimuli of the ugly houses. Its adjusting its baseline for beauty, so that it becomes extra sensitive to any improvment. Thus a normal looking house overwhelms him rendering him to think its oh so beautiful. The stimuli can literally come…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:58 PM
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The contrast principle is proven by science. Some real estate agents use it to sell normal houses by showing people very ugly ones just before. It works in either direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:21 PM
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You self improve to attain new heights. To attain excellence. To become a being that would laugh at the current you and that without any malice. Thats true self improvement anyway. I dont see how women play any sort of role here so as to resent them. Its a highly individual process.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:32 AM
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Both of you are scum.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:12 AM
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I meant concerning the individualism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 05:07 AM
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I mean wait till you see Germany.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:56 AM
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Even Western countries that don't subscribe to toxic individualism such as those of South America don't suffer from this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:07 PM
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Age spent undergoing tribulations and similar is most definetly an indicator of wisdom. Age spent just existing, perhaps mildly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 04:16 PM
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I think this is mostly toxic individualism from the west. I think other cultures dont have that issue and havent forgotten the brotherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:31 AM
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I would have turned the offer down. There are some crazy people out there and theyre sneaky af. Some dude got a bottle broken on his head from behind. i value my brain too much for that sort of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:35 PM
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Thats wrong. Unless you have some ultra above average muscle genes, being taller means being a small guy. Lanky comes with the territory. Im just 6ft and shorter dudes look way buffer with less muscle. You have it even worse than me lol. Anyhow, yeah. That makes perfect sense. Since, theyre perceiving a genetic predator not an actual one. Kinda sad to be honest. Humans are a sad bunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:12 PM
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Predatory in the sense towards the woman. Not a general predator like some buff 6 ft Bald beareded guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:50 PM
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the most comradic environments tend to be the most succesful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:15 PM
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Creepy is when you give the appearance of being predatory towards the woman due to body language, tone etc coupled with certain actions that would give you a predatory advantage. Ugly doesnt mean creepy unless one has certain facial features that look predatory. The Solution is to be sociable and normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:06 PM
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Romans? Abbasids? Napoleon? Alexander the Great? Ceasar? Abraham Lincoln...Do I need to go on? Yall on some small people stuff lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:22 PM
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Hes lamenting that he cannot experience the youth he could have if they were together whilst young. A mistake if you ask me. But, thats what he thinks. And id say to contact people out the blue after years with manipulative intentions in mind is more weird. But thats just me. I mean, what did she expect? For him to say yes? lol. Edit: He is. And thats to be expected in such a scenario. if he wasnt, then it would be quite weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:55 PM
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But they had the casual part behind them already. And when it was time to reveal the topic, she did not seem to be having any work in mind at all. Since he tried to find out if she had anything work related to say due to some other old friend reaching out for work stuff out the blue. So what did she have except the most obvious reason? And the people calling him bitter, idk about bitter, bit in his shows id be insulted. At that point its either work or dont talk to me. She noticed that on linked…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:48 PM
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Why did she not put any business proposal forward then or anything work related? And the guy said they werent in contact for 3 or 4 years at that point and tried to be work minded. Its fishy to just stop talking and resurface without any evident reason to do so like something work related for example. What else is he supposed to think?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:42 PM
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Why did she ghost him for 4 years and randomly contact him again? That in itself is fishy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:34 PM
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People have waged war to make it to the pages of history and youre giving an eye roll. Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:14 PM
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Profit?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:11 PM
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you seen a woman get rejected before? Aint pretty at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:11 PM
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Those people train men to be grown infants and then get suprised pikachu face. Like the amount you hear dudes say nonsense like my gf doesnt allow it or something is just nuts. Where is your dignity dude? Yall are supposed to be grown adults. Not mama and her husbandchild.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:38 PM
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That guy from far cry 4 is more intimidating to most people than any angry "warrior". Cause, calm works. And calm + action, works even better. IN all areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:13 PM
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allow? What is he, your pet? How can you allow or dissallow anything lol People are tripping.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:10 PM
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I said the generation. not just you and your husband. And the global population is merely being held afloat due to Africa. But that too is ending. According to the latest prediction Models, By 2100, africa will have barely 2 childern per woman. Nuts stuff. Not even 100 years from now. So yeah. Dont have children, but dont expect the few future youth to keep you affloat by becoming slaves. Work till death and thats the part that you individually can do. Support the youth and dont be a hypocritus.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:51 PM
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If the generation doesnt want to save the demographics, then they must work till death and forget retirement. The youth has absolutely no obligation to become slaves for the old just cause they didnt want to have kids to look after them. Lets see where this idealistic individualism will lead society. I mean its obviously towards doom. But, eh. As long as me is not harmed amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:29 PM
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The issue comes when youre old and you need young people paying taxes to get your retirement. Those people however, are so few even as we speak, that youd have to enslave the youth to work a LOT to keep the old in retirement. (which is the current choice of the Political Leaders in Germany for example). Its not selfish to not want children...Its also not selfish for the youth to not want enslavement. Continue the logical trail...And you end up with anarchy. There wont be any robots if there are …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:22 PM
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Why so serious? They should.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:37 PM
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questions aint arguments tho...Even rhetorical ones... Compatibility for LTR is based on criteria most would ignore. Hence why all the breaking up and stuff. People will be peopling I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:28 PM
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Delusion is the answer to lifes problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:18 PM
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Why would anyone seriously waste mental energy on this? You cant change attraction. So who cares? Live life peeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:14 PM
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what happened to letting nature take its course? Why all these uneeded considerations? fear? What would society be like if the majority of people werent cowards?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:11 PM
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The whole "lack of experience in relationships" part. Reads like some job ad "Needs 5 years of experience to apply". I am finding it very cringe is what I am saying, and indicative of a strange modern novelty mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:53 PM
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Did you really just say that as if this is some job or something? Lol. This also pressuposes an eventual split. Since in the long term experience requierements are useless be it in jobs or anything cause it evens out, but not if you arent commited to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:06 PM
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So let me get this straight. Claim a: Looks alone determine your fate in life! Evidence: nah. Here are some outliers to prove that is nonsense. You: asfbsdakfbaifieuwb thats statistical outliers! Do you even logic bro? Do I really have to explain it to you? Like cmon. Do better. And laughing before processing a statement is dorky. Dont do that in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:24 PM
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One can have different interests and a smaller level of smiliarity with friends. but given that your relationship partner should be closer to you, the level of similarity should be greater, whilst of course not being a carbon copy of oneself . Why would I give up all the limited free time I have for a relationship if thats not given? So what will then be the relationship experience? sex and then you watch Solo Levelling alone whilst doing all the usual bf stuff? What value does that add to my li…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:48 AM
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"overt" psychos are just normal dudes. I already explained why psychopaths have to be experts at hiding it, just like chameleons. The natural state of the psychopath creeps people out, and in the past, they would have been killed or let to die in exile. Survival skills are honed to perfection, or they would not help someone survive. This is logic 101 people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:21 AM
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Good to know
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 09:00 PM
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Well psychopaths are rare individuals so statistically speaking, you are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 08:05 PM
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No vetting can help against a psychopath. You can only vet against normal dudes who suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:56 PM
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I interpreted your reply as saying, the psychopaths skill to seem normal was never a problem for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:55 PM
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they are getting properly what? What do you mean? If you mean they are able to defeat a survival tactic that they, and most people are not, cause when organisms need to survive they tend to get very good at skills, then thats again, just arrogance. Its like claiming you can spot chameleons whilst theyre camouflaging. You cant. They perfected the art of Camouflage for survival. If you spot them, they die. I dont know why its so hard to see the logical impossibility here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:53 PM
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Im actually neutral about the OP. I just wanted to correct the philosopher on how psychopaths operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:42 PM
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the guy you didnt like for whatever reason was not a psychopath in any way shape or form if thats what you mean. The ability of the psychopath to survive hinges on their ability to perfectly seem normal. Saying you spotted one very early on is very arrogant and untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:40 PM
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Psychopaths are great at not seeming like psychopaths at all. The mask slips after a while tho. But by then its too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:31 PM
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He was Either lying for sympathy points, or felt a connection with you. Do these men also happen to be in your friends circle? If yes, its the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:25 PM
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Sex is just sex to most of us. I dont see how that would work. Youd have to have a connection before the sex for it to have any impact. And being without a connection would imply lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:14 PM
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I hate him more for the role his empire played in global antisemitism, and im not even jewish. And as for exceptional, the great Khan, Hannibal and Napoleon are what I would personally consider exceptional. Alexander is romanticized to absurd levels. Propaganda game is strong in that one. Especially since even the original sources are also heavily propagandized. In war I would wreck Alexander no contest, however Hannibal would easily wreck me, so its obvious where Alexander stands in the line up…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:00 PM
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I know the reality of genes first hand. And if you follow the thread with Dark Sector to its conclusion youll see why. Its not that long. You are not actually disaggreeing with me. And did you really have to mention Alexander? There is not a single individual I dislike more than that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:28 PM
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Let me ask you a question. Do you think that men in Africa or the Balkans like boobs? If you answered yes, why is that? Well, cause men are men. And women are women, no matter the place. Passport bros are getting scammed left right and center.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:18 PM
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it stings even more when you take years of caution in between only for it to end up not being enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:15 PM
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Most dudes mistake the current nihilistic climate, which breeds a lack of purpose, with lonliness. I mean most of us have a gang we get along with, so its not really an issue of being lonely. More like, having no noble causes anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:51 PM
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am I the only one who never did this? But then again, I got ghosted for whatever reason, even tho I thought she was a genuine friend. Perhaps my experience is statistically unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:49 PM
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Thats not BP tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:07 PM
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Napoleon whose wive cheated on him with a handsome hunk is now HV according to the BP? How can an ugly person be HV in that framework? That doesnt even compete. According to the BP, you are only HV if you are very hot. Nothing else matters to the BP. Which is why its wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:26 PM
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None of that is the classical BP tho. Sure, general human success in life is based on your genetic toolset, and how much you use it in life and upgrade it with skills + your allies and contacts, experience etc. But that is simple biology, because you need genes to exist as a person, no way around that. Where the BP absolutely gets wrecked is its ignoring of more important genetic components when it comes to determining life(such as charisma, intellect, mental strength, outside the box thinking) …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:20 PM
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The Central point of genetic determinism is that, things are well, determined by your looks. Napoleon alone wrecks that to its core. Then we have Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates etc. Women do not drool over these guys and never did, they still won at life. Cause they had other things to offer apart from Looks. And that is how life works. Game Theory. Basically, the answer to your first statement, is, no one cares as its completely inconsequential to life. No chad will ever be as important or impactful or…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:04 PM
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Prophets which have shaped history were mostly average looking. Napoleon was no looker either. Dark color pill debunked no contest. Life is all about game theory, not some genetic determinism nonsense. If one is average looking, better be charming. If not, something else. Compensation people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:47 PM
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Change men with hot guys in the excerpt and you have your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:43 PM
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those are pretty easy to spot if one is observant. The point however was that, virgin has grown to be linked with a looser archetype. And if one is not that, people ignore the virgin part entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:04 AM
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cause of archetype. If youre a vigin ceo, whos charismatic and at least normal looking, no one will care. Since you are a winner archetype and not a looser archerype .
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:56 AM
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That is why dead bedrooms are a thing. You are exactly right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:13 PM
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depends where you at. Here in germany, I feel average height.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:15 AM
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hoho. dev?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:56 PM
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bars and clubs are too loud tho. One can go to a Concert if one wants it loud. Much, much better experience. And lets not talk about the akward masturbation rituals that are hookups, which is the main event at bars and clubs. Hardly conductive to anything worthwhile the whole endeavor. Why are there no dance balls? why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:46 PM
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look unvirile you mean. Bald on its own just represents a lack of virility. Which can be balanced out by a good body and overall health in other areas. You can be young and unvirile as well. Age isnt really the point, but health. Health and virility are attractive in both sexes, and time(and money to eat better) help in that regard. Silver Foxes are just people who knew this truth and took care of their health. Modern life is very anti health nowadays, so its not like getting more virility is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:06 PM
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The traits you mentioned for most men in the 30s are antithetical to improving oneself in the 20s. And balding is genetic. Its unappealing, and so is cellulite, thus who cares about both. Anyhow, this idea you present, "there isnt much to help x" I find very strange. Most people are willingly unwilling to change and improve. Its not a matter of actual possibility to improve. They chose that for themselves, by themselves. The more time passes, the more obvious it becomes to me that ability has a …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:56 PM
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if its not making sense, its instinct. I mean, look at the height thing. Dont make no sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:15 PM
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So hypothetically if you fat in your 20s, and then get buff in your 30s, and improve style, become healthier, travel more due to having a career now, improve mindset etc etc, you will not be doing better? That is bogus. Dating later absolutely going to be better for those who use their 20s to actually build themselves up instead of being all talk. Now of course this wont work if someone already peaked in his 20s, since, glass celing and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:06 PM
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I guess I should be more specific, elaborate on the Dopamin hit part. Why would it be a dopamine hit to get attention or validation from someone you essentially don't really care about? I get the using someone for sex part but how does that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:56 PM
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im 6ft myself, and I agree, we aint super tall. It feels about normal to me. I still find it weird tho. Ive had some like, very short girls be into me and i was like it almost looks like youre my baby sister or something. Super weird stuff. Maybe that scarred me or something. Yeah, this whole height stuff I find weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:30 PM
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Do elaborate. This sounds way too familiar.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:16 PM
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who compliments people on being tall? That is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 08:11 PM
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I dont watch porn. And gaming overstimulates me. I only do it like one a week. I have a whole degree I need to attain. I guess at this point I have gotten used to internet peoples assuming things about me. Go on. What else do i do...Live in my parents basement whilst being 2000km away from them? Or maybe something else? Jacking it off every day perhaps? Dont do that either. But go on. You sure know me better than myself. After all its not like you reddit folk are completely clueless about realit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 11:13 AM
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that is just some pop psychology copout. No matter how familiar it is, no one will tolerate abuse if they do not find you hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:48 AM
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bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:22 AM
6

that particular flaw just so happens to be attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:11 AM
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Tree. No contest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:03 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 08:27 AM
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Except in this case its Co-Murderers to run with your example. An accomplice in such a scenario would be the Secretary who knows of what the Cheater and the Cheatee are doing, but either says nothing, or assists them in their act. There has to be specific involvement that does not pass a certain Threshold in order to qualify as an acomplice. No inconsistencies here with the rest of the Law. The Law does not care if women internally view themselves as supportive background characters subject to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:20 PM
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Thats the whole to "genuinely be better" part. Which of course has nothing to do with forgiveness but trust. Forgivness is an internal state of not holding a grudge. You do not have to trust someone you have forgiven unless there is objective reasons to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:08 PM
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Forgiveness means forgiveness. It doesnt mean ending up together again with a cheating partner. And in the context of family, it means repairing damaged bonds. Fools arrogant enough to think that they have the luxury to hold grudges against others, whilst being scum themselves, are gonna be suprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:59 PM
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The fact that its hurts less coming from the stranger is irrelevant to the moral failure of cheating and responsibility towards said failure is what I mean. will it give the victim future trust issues or something and other such things? Sure. Is it connected to the "is affair person also responsible for cheating and if so when" .Not at all. If we talk about everything, we end up talking about nothing. I dont think its that different in the us when it comes to intent. Intent is intent. If you pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:50 PM
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Correct. But I would not go as far as to be that radically unforgiving, As long as someone wants to genuinely be bettter and take responsibility, I do not think the path of forgiveness should be blocked from them. We all make decisions that will turn out to be moral failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:53 PM
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I am not really focusing on sentimental impact here. Sure, the known persons betrayal stings more. But that is utterly irrelevant to the point of sharing responsibility and moral failure. No one cares that the mistress or side guy wants to remain neutral. Their feelings, (assuming it is not one of the sitautions where they have minimal guilt I listed above) are utterly and completely irrelevant and meaningless. They have acted recklessly and selfishly. They share in the moral failure and are res…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:45 PM
2

The tribes that choose different were anihilated or assimilated. There really was no other sensible choice back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:21 PM
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Thats the patriarchy. Gotta go protect and provide and all that nonsense. She is speaking the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:06 PM
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No. The west is simply going to be replaced. ITs the cycle of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:04 PM
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Assuming they knew of the situation, yes. Both the cheater and the cheatee have intentionally broken the trust of the victim and potentially split families and ruined vows. Under the Old laws, both would deservingly die, as reflection of their responsibility. by entangling yourself with a coupled person, you also entangle yourself in the relationship itself. There is no way to remain neutral here. Now assuming that the cheatee did not know of the Situation, then the question is did they try to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:33 PM
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That is because humans go in packs, as a way to compensate for physical inferiority compared to other beings. It has nothing to do with being truly social. The truly pro social among humanity, which are also rare, are called naive and guillible and are often taken advantage off. If humanity were truly a pro social set of creatures, communism would have never failed. And yet here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:43 PM
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Humans in general are prestige sensitive. And women, who had to sort of cling to the man they were with and would be treated very good or very bad depending on his personal prestige, kinda evolved a sensitivity to that. The Fault lies again, with us. Why muscles? Cause we like to fight each other. Why intelligence? Cause we like to compete with each other. Why prestige? Cause we like to do dick measuring contests. Why height? Most dudes respect tallter guys more. Why confidence? The warrior who …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:25 PM
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Humans are conformist not social. Anyhow, the majority don't want to be settled for either. They just submit to their fate. That's why yall are obsessed with confidence and all that. As a trait it's actually very rare in humans, who are conformity incarnate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:22 AM
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The majority will do what they always have. Its inconsequential. Hero Worship is a thing for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 06:41 PM
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And what makes you think anyone wants to get settled for in the "relationship" part? Thus, the relationship part can as well not even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:22 PM
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Its still an exchange. The timing does not really change anything nor does it have to be explicitly stated that its an exchange. The act of it being an exchange in its essence is all that matters. If you provide the sole income in the house, you may not think that your stay at home husband is a prostitute, but he is being a prostitute. Men can be prostitutes too. And the issue with your example is that, men in general kinda dont care about being provided for and all that nonsense. So an exchange…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:46 PM
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If you did a favour for a friend, and they bought you dinner, they know owe you no favor, In other words, they gave you money for favor, instead of favor for favor as is the social custom. An exchange. Paying for a date is paying for sex. Let a woman make it absolutely clear that she will not sleep wih anyone paying for a date, and see how many actually pay for a date. I understand that in your mind, the guy loves you oh so much he takes care of you and all your needs. But that is not the reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:19 PM
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You are if the usual expectation is being adhered to. Which is that you sleep with them. Which is why anything but a fair split during dating is weirdo patriarcal nonsense and blatant prostitution. So is marriage without 2 incomes. Prostitution is the act of exchange, a dinner date wanting to be there due to mutual attraction changes nothing if there is no fair split. Mutual attraction does not eliminate that the guy paid for it. And telling oneself he enjoys doing so is also not eliminating it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:12 PM
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The one he married after becoming Emperor of France and de facto ruler of Continental Europe? The Daugher of Austria? That was to ensure an Heir and have him be accepted by the rest of nobiility as noble. It wasnt about status, as he literally ruled as Emperor by then. Cant get more Status than that. However, as Napoleon himself commented, they still looked at him as a peasant and wannabe rebel. Since, he did not have the famous blue blood in him. Thus, the marriage with Austria would help in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 07:42 PM
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Napoleon who foolishly believed Josephine loved him deeply and did not cheat on him with a hunk officer while he was in Egypt? Social Status you do not gain unless you are born into Nobility in 1789 France.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:22 PM
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You're being pedantic. One asks for sources when the actual value is of importance. In this case it's not. It's doesn't make any meaningful difference if it's 2, 3, 6 or something else, because the value is not going to be high either way. You can take my estimate, make your own it doesn't matter. And as for evidence that the ego is indeed stored in the brain, you can look at cases before vs after brain damage among other things. I think at this point it's accepted by the neuro folks that the eg…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:10 PM
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I mean it's simple actually. You have the estimate of data all humans are said to possess. And you compare it with simple programs using way way way less amounts of data that are able to out compete us with ease. So you can safely conclude that whatever brain power the ego gets, it's almost miniscule compared to what the brain could do IF it was actually free to do so and not busy with like, surviving and all the other necessities.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:53 PM
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If your critique is the precise and exact value of how much the ego gets from the brain allocation, then I think this misses the point of the whole thing. The point isn't that, we know for a fact it's 10%. (in my estimate it's probably around 2%). The point is that, the self, is just one part of the Whole Machine that is the human brain. And is powered by the brain. And it makes sense. We are biological robots after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:37 PM
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Did you read the content of the links before posting? They all regurgitate the whole "but the brain is active 100% of the time!". Which I addressed already. Do you even know what the difference between the "self" / ego and the brain is? Like, consider that at this moment, your brain is currently doing intensive metabolic calculations and organizing energy allocation across the whole body. How much of that was your doing? About 0%. That's the difference between the brain, and you. You ain't using…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:18 PM
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How one can arrive to such a wrong conclusion from such simple data is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:04 PM
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Except for the Muslim lands, and the Far east, yes. I haven't looked into why their birth rates are collapsing. But I would assume that for the far east it's probably exporting of Western culture. This isn't the gotcha comment that you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:29 AM
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they dont learn anything...right....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:00 PM
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Well we can't know that it won't happen. You can day my take is optimistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:11 AM
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Major short term thinking right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:48 AM
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Would agree
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:35 PM
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Only 10% of the brain is devoted to our conscious activity. The rest is stuff we don't regulate. So "you", the ego, the self, the conscious part, do only use 10%. The brain being 100% active doesn't mean you get to use more of it for conscious activity than is already allocated. That's not a pop science anything. It's fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:07 PM
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That's just one dude bro. Why is the population participating? Why not go full French revolution on him? Cause they don't care. That's why. Waving flags is not the same as being willing to actually do something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:56 PM
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Why is Ukraine still struggling then, if Equipment is all it takes? Major cope dude. If it's not the west then China will give them weapons or India. The isralies learned their lesson from the West during ww2. They specialized in independence and innovation for that reason. They will maintain friendly relations with the west cause it makes sense. But if the west wants to go full Hitler again, the result will be much more different than the last time. So I think you're just mad you can't bully th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:54 PM
1

Why did they block the border then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:47 PM
2

Tell that to them kicking ass in the six days war while the west merely watched. If you think Western Support is paramount to Israel, do I have some bad news for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:39 PM
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I think you're vastly overestimating Arab solidarity with Palestinians. If you're right, the Egyptians would not have put a border with Palestine for example. They would have helped them instead. Being Arab I think is just a loose term like being western. Each people group is still its own. And no one is committing genocide. Touch some grass dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:18 PM
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So thriving birth rates are self destruction? Like explain to me the logic behind that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:50 PM
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Cause they are still not the majority. When they are the majority it will just be a more right wing society. I don't think that they're gonna let the economy collapse. That's bogus.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:03 PM
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Nah. They'll just adapt. Society will just turn more right that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:56 PM
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I mean if the women were early twenties it makes sense. But by thirty most marry and have kids above replacement level. The ultra religious just have way above replacement level.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:56 PM
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So it's the culture. I agree about not being able to replicate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:53 PM
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The libs have 3 kids per woman. The argument does not hold up to scrutiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:51 PM
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Culture. That's the only reason. Like I asked around the sub reddit. People who don't have children are seen as weird. And from work, to parks to basically everywhere it's children friendly. Bringing kids to work is normal. Etc etc. Women have rights in Israel just like in the rest of the world, still no birth rate issues. Thus, it's culture. Not feminism. Not industry. None of that. Western culture is simply trash. End of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:44 PM
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Israel disagrees. It's mainly cultural reasons. The cultural climate in the West is pro hedonism and invidiualism while being anti family.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:30 PM
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Arguing against your own imagination there. The point is, you can't just pick in choose to be one or the other based on what benefits you most. Cause women bring up the having no choice card a suspicious lot of times and it's always the most convenient times to just about dodge accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 04:39 AM
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Nah. I'm saying that you romanticize your life as your male equivalent and aren't being realistic about how it would play out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:16 PM
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That's what I hear from them. Gotta solve this amongst each other. I don't do relationships myself. Pessimistic attitudes are anti life. How does that ever become affirmative of life? You're literally arguing against some version of me you conjured up that has none to do with the real me and what I stand for. The truth is that yall are the decadent haters of life, lacking vitality. Full of pessimist, hateful and depressive attitudes. The man and the woman alike. Do not get me mixed up with that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:43 PM
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I sure hope so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:40 PM
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Then why they complaining all the time about dead bedrooms? What's up with that? My self hating negativity? Dude, I say yes to life. Yall are the ones (men and women) who fail to do so and hate on life. Self hating is saying no to life. Keep that anti life attitude to yourself and your fellow men and women. That nonsense got nothing to do with me. Yall would be better of having my life affirming attitude any time of the day lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:38 PM
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I do not buy for a second that women actually believe those lies when they hear them. The reality is rather that one failed to use "feminine charm" to actually get one to commit because, surprise surprise, it doesn't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:23 PM
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You have no agency once someone forcibly kills you against your will. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:18 PM
2

Yikes bro
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:20 PM
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Not for any man tho. Like this is the one thing where it indeed applies to all men. If I sleep with you, and then your friend, I cared about neither of you, and just wanted to pump and dump. A man who actually cares about a woman to commit to her, doesn't do that. We ain't commitment phobes. No guy is a commitment phobe when the right one shows up. It's just that the right one, is very hard to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:17 PM
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The guys perspective literally is pump and dump. If the women think that he choose the friend as well because they were friends with the original chick then that is just false.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:11 PM
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Your last paragraph is the reality of most married men lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:10 PM
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Not only are you not engaging in what is being said, you've also shown that you're toxic and full of baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:47 PM
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From a biological perspective yes. Being a man is always better. No periods. More mental stability. Muscles etc. But from a social perspective, the mediocre man is invisible. No one would care about your male equivalent. You'd basically be an incel hating on your current female self lol. And what have you accomplished exactly? That sounds interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:20 PM
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You'd be your male equivalent, not your crush.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:16 AM
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You'd be your male equivalent. Not your crush.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:13 AM
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It's the truth. The consequences of this are that many dudes aren't liked but hey, because this is so offending the women usually use made up excuses to avoid the drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:30 PM
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Those can hardly be called normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:45 AM
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Because they lack dignity. Their desperation took a hold of them and they forsook their dignity because of it. Its disgusting self shaming behavior to persist after a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:14 PM
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And then they claim people arent monogamous by nature. If that was the case, why are hookups, fwbs and anything without substance so empty?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:55 PM
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I think the indepence is ruined by all the simps simping around. Giving people overinflated egos, which lead to a weird heightening of supposed natural attraction standards. Without it, I think we would have truly indendent women who were allowed to grow instead of simps ruining everything and that would be awesome honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:53 PM
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Being lied to doesnt feel good. Now I personally would be gone if that even is mentioned. Some however, get aggressive because of being lied to and double down. But then again, these may be beyond saving either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:08 PM
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So it seems social calibration and charisma are able to save one from troubles. Glad I have them then lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:06 PM
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Simps be ruining everything for real. Driving down the value of man. The more time passes, the more their lack of dignity is disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:04 PM
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Its the safest path to gauge interest. If I give the digits, and nothing no message. Then it means no interest. So leave that girl alone and that is that. But these simps wanna force people to like them it seems. Like dude, accept free will and move on
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:00 PM
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Then they are creeps what can one say. Or people without dignity. If I go and ask something, and youre like no, Im gone. No need to waste each others time with desperate nonsense. The issue is tho, that sometimes women kinda expect everyone to be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:58 PM
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Because it has been used falsely. Just saying I dont feel you or something is better. Then if they persist, thats a real creep right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:47 PM
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You see if there is compatibility with the conversation by asking things before giving the digits to the girl. At least I do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:40 PM
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Sounds a lot like prostitution. Hard pass. its 2024. That stuff is outdated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 11:14 AM
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I think my reference point is just a different one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:23 PM
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Now I'm even more confused lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:09 PM
1

Napoleon had traumas. Josephine wasn't anything special.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:21 PM
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This. And youd think its mutual cause all the falling in love with personality propaganda. Sadly it wasnt so.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:53 AM
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So you want to be biased and unfair cause its to your benefit...gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:49 AM
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The Username doesnt fit the content of the post at all. How ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:43 AM
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What are those obvious reasons? This is a genuine question. I do not think the ammount of women with male only or mostly male friendgroups is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:35 AM
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Well if we talk about the dark side of genders, lets explore womens manipulativeness and calloussness as well. Otherwise its just unfair propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:32 AM
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For the company yeah. For us it's just how we do man. And completely inventing something out of scratch happens ultra rarely. Mostly it's either improving on a foundation by a ton, or copying nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 06:42 AM
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Nothing to do with what you were saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 06:42 AM
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As someone who invents as a hobby (still have to do something of note tho) inventing is just a passion. No inventor actually thought about the long term consequences of his invention. We are just chasing a dopamine rush cause we love solving problems. A dude invented vr as a hobby in his backyard for example. Now of course corporate then comes and ruins everything... But they always do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 08:49 PM
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Friend zone just means no bodily attraction. The old school methods still work if the girl is attracted to you. Therefore, making lots of female friends is not a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 08:45 PM
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Corporate benefits a huge amount from atomization. It's a very short term thinking but that's what capitalism is fundamentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 08:42 PM
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They need to get taxed out the economy. Since dating apps arrived, and social media allowed non friends to follow instead of simply view(instagram), society in general, not just dating, has gone more narc and more superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 08:14 PM
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The irony you ignore is that simps get nothing! Simping needs to be exposed as the disease it is. It is to be shamed, ostracized and ridiculued. Anyone partaking in it has to be expelled from the group. This whole weak men epidemic is getting more irritating by the day
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 08:06 PM
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Werent yall meant to be nice to one another? Lunatic is kinda harsh
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:57 PM
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I think this is the truth honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:54 PM
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Trust Issues are the norm nowadays. What you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:52 PM
1

The Us is like Russia but richer. Meaning, some areas are richer and all that, but the rest is a 3rd world mess. Russia is mostly a 3rd world mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:49 PM
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So women spawn babies out of thin air now? How interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:45 PM
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Yeah. Nerds are this and that, and then "we invented bla bla". No dude, you invented jack.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:43 PM
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This assumes women are somehow pacyfing male aggression which avoids the prison atmosphere. Considering all the "kill all men" stuff and how in the west men are seen as trash, I do not think that is the case. Thus, its incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:39 PM
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My grandma and grampa worked the field equally in the village. I think tho entering the official job market was bound to half wages regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:34 PM
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Stop trying to excuse simping with evolutionary bogus.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:01 PM
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Well, as I've come to sadly conclude, capitalism has seeped into dating and so it's really turned into a disgusting market. Normies by simping have increased demand for the average chick, who then selects the best specimens, "Chads", which in turn lowers female demand for average. So the only ones the average has sway in, is where Chad would never bother for a hookup. Of course this ridiculous situation can be solved if women internalized that hookup attraction and relationship attraction are ut…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 05:43 PM
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The thing it seems, is that attraction is a feeling that can be generated and lost. So it's always gonna be a weird balancing act.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:19 AM
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Maybe not in your country. But I'll make sure it happens in Germany where I live. The parliament will be easy to convince with all the extra taxes. And here I was wondering what could possibly be the solution when it was that simple all along lol. Ich bin Feuer und flame lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 10:31 AM
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Once dating apps get taxed to oblivion and Instagram is made to only allow friends to follow you, the internet will once again be a net positive. The age of superficial relationships is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 10:27 AM
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You can. Dating apps will get huge, huge tax burdens till they go bankrupt. And Instagram will have to only have friends be able to add you, unless you're a celeb. Problem solved. Time to get the legislation going.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 10:08 AM
4

Considering our ancestors were radically more disciplined and had way more standards, that's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 10:06 AM
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Simps destroyed dating basically. Lol. I knew it wasn't feminism as these red pill dudes claim, but simping and having no standards. We all want models, but dating used to work regardless before this whole simping epidemic happened. There is it seems still hope to save the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 10:04 AM
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Cause most people are mentally weak. That's why. Well adjusted is hardly the right word to use. More like, hero worshipping infants. It literally takes merely delusional self conviction to convince people of anything one wants (I've done that a couple of times, was kinda fun and kinda sad at the same time) because most people are hero worshippers and hyper insecure. I guess this is why hierarchys developed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 10:17 PM
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The biological marketplace is bogus tho. Always has been. Animals have peace making rituals and emotionns like we do. Reproduction costs free testosterone and is not free(as nothing in this world is) etc etc. Humans are animals simply means humans are living beings. Briffaults law is major cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:51 PM
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Briffaults Law ignores most of hiuman history. It was the elders, and by extension the Patriarch who always had the last say. And that sometimes to the detriment of all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:07 PM
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Any radical position will fail. Even Emperors had advisors. I think this whole traditional stuff is bogus anyway. What works is the company model. The man is the Ceo of the family unit, everyone, mainly the children, is a shareholder, and the Woman is the Secretary and Advisor to the family unit. Both should be complementary to each other. And when frustration concerning disputes occurs (which it will) it should be decided by a contract between the two that the two previously agreed on. If the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:25 PM
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That's still at least 800 difference tho. I'm doing a very budget friendly eating regimen atm. But I can see it being 1200 when done well. But 2000 is a little too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:37 PM
1

You got the wrong one buddy. We agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:32 PM
1

The price on its own is not.(I'm sure his post was satire) But paying whatever is needed for food is always reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 07:30 PM
1

He'll learn I am sure. If he could make the money, he can improve the mindset as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:28 PM
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Except for the steroids and testosterone and food, his expenses are indeed too much. But that still doesnt explain it I think his mentality might be the issue here. He probably self improved to gain chicks. Wasting so much money for chicks is insane to me. But then again its his money...id just not recommend it I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:14 PM
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This kinda sounds hard to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:48 PM
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Average women he said. Doesnt appear outside his league to me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:47 PM
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Doesn't stop yall from gaming them. But then again, they kinda refuse to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:59 AM
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I think most people enjoy the attention of someone who desires them even if they do not like the person. Thus, you are kinda being dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:11 PM
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Cause sex aint romance for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:03 PM
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Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:01 PM
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Since times immemorial, women had to learn to be very shrewd because men, at least our ancestors, were very warlike. During those times, an unschrewd woman, was as lucky as a physically weak man, that is to say, dead or exiled. Thus, it should not surprise at all. Young women get to practice more. And are thus, more manipulative. They are not naive at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:39 PM
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I would disagree. But then again, I am just 22 and plan on being a bachelor until I find someone I like to abandon the bachelor life so, my opinion doesnt really count here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:29 PM
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she wants to feel that you are gross so that she can ignore what you said. Its not reasoning at all. But self protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:10 PM
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Given how younger women learn to game dudes of all ages, very unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:06 PM
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Bit of both. Being older sucks for anyone. And at that stage, anyone serious already either found someone or decided to not bother completely. The only ones trying are well...The nopes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:05 PM
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I'm not really talking about your case specifically nor about the individual harm of certain actions on a micro scale. I'm talking about harm from mass behavior. Mass emotional high chasing by women, and spineless behavior by men is as harmful to the nation as killing is harmful to an individual. You not being able to see this obvious issue, doesn't mean something is wrong with me. The only thing it means is that your perspective is very limited. And that you're not in it for the intellectual ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:11 AM
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People can also choose to kill and rape. Doesn't make it a good idea. And I'm not just blaming women here. Both genders have become an utter dissapointment to me. The men have lost their spine and what made them men. And the women selfishly chase their emotional high at the cost of the nation's future. I have no hope in either. Just leave me out is what I want. I do not want anything in the consequences of yalls behavior whatsoever. Yall can be selfish and undisciplined as much as yall want, jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:57 AM
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They (this is the a big chunk of married couples after long enough BTW) would be better of divorced or not even together in the first place I agree. But that doesn't really change the fact that their individual happiness comes at a national cost. Nothing in this world is free. It always has a cost to it. It remains a fact tho that it's better that an individual suffer, than that the whole nation collapse. (which is where we are heading). So I say, do what ye will. I just hope the consequences of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:47 AM
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Serial break ups happen due to chasing this unattainable permanent high(which everyone in the past knew was superfluous and immature to do. But we have forgotten it nowadays) The rest of the world will be fine yes, the West will decline and collapse however. I just hope it's not in my lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:24 AM
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The entirety of human history disagrees. Marriage used to be a duty, because the romance fades and attraction as well. Nowadays, romanticism has people believe in fairy tales, thus long term commitment (which is boring compared to the fairy tales) is slowly dying out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:53 AM
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I don't think your reply was meant for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 07:07 PM
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Fair enough I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:08 PM
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Would agree. I think for dudes without mommy issues, the idea of choosing a mate who reminds them of their mom sounds very.... Unappealing lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:56 PM
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Idk about them but for me, most are just not eliciting my interest. I know deep down that I'm not gonna value my future gf as much as I valued her so there's that. But I do think what you say applies to dudes out there. They're the same kind who'd pay for of as well. They need some male role models to get more self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:44 PM
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I'd say it's accurate and also universal. We all have that someone we wanted who didn't want us in the end for whatever reason. So that when one does get into a relationship, one wants the current partner less than the one who got away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:37 PM
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The mother as the potential first love is beyond bunk. Freud had some issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:35 PM
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That's the wrong mindset as the first love need not be a gf necessarily. Both men and women have wanted someone who didn't want them back. Thus, it's kinda hard to escape.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:34 PM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:33 PM
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The one who got away will still remain a memory even if you have a harem by that point. This is an emotional, rather than a sexual thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:26 PM
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"By Zeus's Ball Hairs! What a damnable compendium! I, Olaf the Wise, Son of Olaf the Elder, have seen the horrors of war. I was raped by 6 Berserkers whilst on my way to drink water! I have seen the Horrors of what is called Discord and forced to partake in the rituals! My ears were despoiled by Taylor Swifts demonic chants! My entire Family was genocided before my eyes whilst I was only 1 Month Old! And much more Evil I was forced to endure! But this? This has even me shook! These hoes! Nay I s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:26 PM
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In the past, the community took care that no one was single. Dating is just an unnatural thing that will not work out in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:50 PM
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the 1940s or 1910s arent the past I am talking about. Thats very, very recent. If people in the past catered to sexual attraction like nowadays, most of us would not have been born. That was the reality for most of history. Avoid repulsion, but accept mediocrity. The only ones who could cater to attraction were the upper classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:31 PM
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Well, I am not from the US (most reddit people are from the US) so perhaps what you say applies to the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:28 PM
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I think there is a difference between sex one does not want to have, and feeling neutral about sex until it happens and happening to enjoy it. The first is not something common unless its the second type of dead bedroom or some other reason like stress or low self esteem behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:24 PM
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Women who use dating apps are a specific demographic tho
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:16 PM
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When it comes to the essentials, men do think all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:15 PM
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Why would your friends openly admit what they did? Slut shaming is done primarily by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:12 PM
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Considering that in the past sexual unattraction/repulsion was avoided and attraction seen as superfluous, this has nothing to do with evolutionary anything. its just a symptom of modernity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:56 PM
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You make the assumption that these women do not know what they are getting into. In reality, they, usually by getting pregnant, hope to force the dudes hand to commit to them. When the guy does in fact, not want to commit at all. And as usual, it does not work. But in the minds of these kinds of women(not all), getting that treatment, is way better than having a normal relationship with a guy they perceive as lower on the value hierarchy. Its nothing more than eugenics fueled by modern narcisism…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:50 PM
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Those dead beat fathers did not want to be fathers in the first place. Yall think yall can force them to stay by getting pregnant, wrong. Extremely, and utterly wrong. If someone does not want to commit, woman up and leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:45 PM
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Stop othering women so much. Just imagine yourself in a similar situation. Like, you are the bubbly cool guy on the Job Interview, but when you get the Job you are not. Is it because you were playing mastermind this entire time, or because you think that is what the Boss wants from you to get the Job, see that he does not mind you stopping to be it and carry on as your usual self? Most dead Bedrooms occur because of a lack of expectations setting. When one makes clear the expectations, a dead be…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:41 PM
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People crave novelty in general. Its not a women thing. Which is why in the past, divorce was penalized. Ruining a relationship for novelty is the epitomy of stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:36 PM
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I think they do. No one could be that naive nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:52 AM
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When you put it that way... I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:51 AM
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You're signing up to get used for a green card and or western money. The actual women to whom your statement applies, marry their own people most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:43 AM
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It's not funny as most of these guys are seen as a green card chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:41 AM
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A lower libido would lead to higher arousal thresholds. That's exactly what you're describing and then you call it hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:10 AM
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Most dudes nowadays have dangerously low free testosterone cause of addiction to sex and or other stuff. Giving away life energy for nothing. Among other things. I commend you for realizing the harm in trying to cope with insecurity using sex. Now all you have to do is not fall into your old addiction and break your boyfriend's heart. To do that, just identify all your triggers and avoid them like the plague. I wish the both of you a long lasting and healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:39 PM
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I guess it depends on the region. I'm on SR(semen retention) You're kinda describing heaven. Since ejaculating lowers free testosterone(don't tell it to the addicts. Will get them mad) . Being able to enjoy Sex without having to also lose testosterone in the process sounds like bliss! I wonder if one could get there with enough practice. 🤔 If that is the case, would women having casual Sex not be only for self esteem boosts? But then again, I would assume that getting the nerves stimulated is pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 07:27 PM
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That is plausible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:14 PM
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No argument. I have enough debating at law school, no interest in more sry. This is my vacation week. That is the complaint I hear from US guys. But, youre the american so imma give you the benefit of the doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:13 PM
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That does make sense. Lemme fix the pseudocode then, If low libido true ->avg guy NOT John/Rapist if hypergamy true ->avg guy == John/Rapist Voula. Therefore, if hypergamy is real, the avg guy has it very bad. Since emotional attraction, dominance and talents and all that, kinda do not matter if the other party is hardwired to find you repulsive all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:55 PM
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Oh I see now. I think i need to specify that this is one woman having children from different men. So, Stacys daughter is from John, her Sohn from Mike and her other Son from Steve. Hypergamy would be directly in contrast to this. But, libido behavior would perfectly explain it. That is to say, since women due to the lower libido would rarely meet someone who excites them, they would have less experience managing it and thus you get the whole US single mom fiasco.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:34 PM
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oh no. Not at all. I think putting it in pseudocode is better. If low libido true ->having relationship with avg guy NOT rape or prostitution If hypergamy true -> having relationship with avg guy == rape or prostitution I hope its less confusing now. Actual rapists and Johns have nothing to do with this. Rather, the nature of the relation the average guy has to women is very different if hypergamy is real vs if its just low libido giving the illusion of hypergamy. Edit: The edited answer still m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:28 PM
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The average US man is fat and stuff. That is why I used the specification. He is below the global average and the european average. And I am very confused as to what you mean now. What do rapists and johns have to do with this? I dont compute.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:17 PM
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But liking has nothing to do with attraction tho. I am talking about starting point attraction in particular. But you said that a woman would want only the childrens of one man, yet in the US there are many who have children from many men. Does thou seest the disconnect?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:14 PM
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Would that not make it a conscious decision? The US Single moms with multiple children from different fathers disagree with you. (I'm not from the US tho.)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:01 PM
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How can one be very promiscuous and selective at the same time? I dont compute Im afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:41 PM
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The only difference in effect between the low libido and hypergamy is that in the second, the average(on the european street. Not the US) guy is not repulsive and a biological offense, thus a relationship with him would not be rape or prostitution. Whilst with hypergamy it would be rape or prostitution in all instances. Both lead to discrimination, but have very different outcomes for the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:37 PM
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Being reluctant and selective out of conscious consideration due to the consequences of getting pregnant would produce the same results. It doesn't require it to be an innate instinct. Or it's simply a needed harmony for a functioning sexual dymorphic union. That is to say, one has to be testosterone dominant and one estrogen dominant out of practical concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:27 PM
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That is the classic point. Women get pregnant, so they have to be more selective. But at least from recent history, that selectivity has rarely been exercised. Women were given in marriage by the order of the father. Or they were taken by the winning soldiers who defeat their home nation. And this during times when there was civilization. How much more brutal was it for the average woman during primitive times? In other words, hypergamy cannot be anything more than libido and the contrast princi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:19 PM
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If we go by the whole evolutionary framework for a moment, being selective would be moot. On a macro level, The Great King of Akad will come and take his spoil, and do his will, and subjugate all men opposing him and impregnate their wives and daughters, even if he is a short ugly manlet. On a micro level, the most aggressive guy would come and kill the male family members first, and then do his will. Even if he was just big and ugly. Thus, I don't really think that any sort of evolutionary fram…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:09 PM
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To summarize, I'm disagreeing that character can arouse people. Be they men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 12:26 PM
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You were saying that most men struggle cause they are wimps and lack character and don't know how to please a woman, and also that women have an inherent different arousal mechanism. The first point is only about relationships and is missing the point. The second one you did not elaborate on and just stated it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 12:20 PM
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You're kinda missing the point here. Relationships, due to their long term nature, force a compromise and kinda willingness to settle. So, women choosing bf that are good bf and leaders for that, doesn't really disprove or prove anything about the attraction. They could be doing duty sex for said boyfriends all the time for all we know. What I am talking about is starting point attraction. And whether this is due to an inherent low libido, or hypergamy. That the average man is not attractive at …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 12:11 PM
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Are you then suggesting the libido is equal? Why then would the average man be unattractive? Hypergamy? The thing with hypergamy is that it's doomed to lead to incest if given free reign. That cannot be intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:26 AM
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I mean if it's hypergamy then the majority of men are friend zone material! Buw how do you tell this from the contrast principle apart then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:24 AM
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How come is the average man unattractive then? Would it not be the opposite?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:22 AM
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Would the same not occur for very attractive women if they hid their relationship status well? Like stringing along a couple of millionaires for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:20 AM
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Cause they're mutually exclusive. Social hypergamy perhaps. If one doesn't feel attracted to both John the accountant and Bill the Ceo, making a rational decision to choose Bill the Ceo seems easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:18 AM
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What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:15 AM
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I think the nature part is questionable. For example, the common idea that the man wants to spread the seed makes sense. But then, SR raises free testosterone levels. Why is spreading the seed then so harmful if that's the intended thing? The same I think is here. I think the whole evolutionary "psychology" is finding ways to make sense of behavior instead of finding the actual root cause of a behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:13 AM
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I think once SR gets investigated and probably proven true, the trend will likely change. Edit: The benefits of exercise are also widely known and it's not common place. I retract my statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:09 PM
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Why does your comment kinda prove this whole hypergamy nonsense? What reason is there for the woman he cheats with to be more attractive than the wife? Its not like attractiveness on its own is enough to stop cheating from occuring, if the wife neglects the emotional aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:45 PM
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Because of their cope and dishonesty. The reason to not be black pilled is because it's a destructive, anti life philosophy that makes one miserable and is only half true(the halo effect is a documented phenomenon.). What's the point in wallowing in despair and cursing your fate? Learn to love life as it is. Unlike in OLD and social media, in real life, people do respect the right spirit and heart. Humans are inherently social. There's really no reason to adapt a black pill mindset. Compensate w…
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