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But the thing is men in red pill spaces have to be taught by the red pill how to be good leaders proving they don’t innately possess superior rationality to the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:42 AM
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This is s-tier trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 11:34 AM
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Why is the distinction important?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 09:25 PM
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She died due to her belief in her faith and her country. I believe that fits into your definition of going to war and dying for ‘random stuff’ In terms of why there are fewer historical examples of female martyrs, in most countries women did not fight in war due to biological disadvantages that made it impractical before modern technology. But many women have sacrificed for their beliefs in other ways: List of female Christian martyrs Article about British women’s contribution to the ww2 effort …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:43 AM
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By that logic all religious martyrs are mentally ill. (I’m not agreeing or disagreeing), and the word martyr is usually used to describe self sacrifice due to religious conviction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:34 AM
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Joan of arc is literally the most famous martyr of all time
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:16 AM
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What hypocrisy do you see?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:59 AM
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Physical, combat strength - covered by what I said initially Mental strength, determined, capability - these just seem like sensible things to look for in a partner. Looking for a mentally strong or capable partner doesn’t seem to mean you want them to be superior. Actually it often means you want them to be equal bc you don’t want have to pick up the slack. Additionally, I would argue sensible PEOPLE look for these things. I don’t think many women or men are so intentional when dating. Income -…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:57 AM
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First of all, referencing fiction as evidence for social behaviour is absurd. Fiction removes the jeopardy of reality allowing us to enjoy scenarios we would otherwise avoid. Humans consume all sorts of content that doesn’t speak to their true desires and is only useful for surface level analysis. For example, I could say men like playing violent games which shows that why have an innate desire for senseless violence in real life so women should avoid them, but many studies have shown this to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:49 AM
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Speaking of inferiority or superiority in this context makes no sense. Men are stronger, taller, faster due to their sexually dimorphic traits. Similarly, women are more flexible, have wider hips, higher pain thresholds, can give birth etc. Outside of a sporting/fighting context it makes no sense to compare these traits in a hierarchical way. Saying women want the most ‘manly’ (most dimorphic) men makes sense, the same argument can be argued made for men. But what you’ve said is like me saying m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:51 PM
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If men respect women who they objectify, why do you think women dislike being objectified?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:43 PM
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How is a woman to identify a real man? Also what benefits come from a real man leading? Do you understand why many women rebel against this traditional structure, because of the loss of autonomy that comes from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 07:48 PM
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Your saying these are qualities all men have?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 07:28 PM
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What innate qualities do men have that qualify them to be a leader figures?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 07:06 PM
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I think men and women can be outstandingly attractive. I’m interested to know of a guy you think is outstandingly attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 11:23 PM
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No, many men on this forum say all a woman has to do to be attractive is to be slim. The point I’m making is I think we are blind to the incongruence between the things we say and what we do. Some women like to think they are virtuous enough to only care about ‘niceness’ ignoring their physical preferences. Similarly, many men here like to think they are so hard up and desperate they don’t have any preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 09:23 PM
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I agreed with your last comment and I agreed with you here. If I want advice on men I’d probably go to a woman who is similar to me. The point I’m making is I think we are blind to the incongruence between the things we say and what we do. Some women like to think they are virtuous enough to only care about ‘niceness’ ignoring their physical preferences. Similarly, men like to think they are so hard up and desperate they don’t have any preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 08:04 PM
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I don’t think average is an insult, but I think it is surprising, to call women widely considered attractive that when men here say men find anyone slim attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:57 PM
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No I don’t think I know better than you, the point I’m trying to make is that men say they speak for all men when saying men find almost anything attractive. But this is clearly not the case!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:54 PM
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I agree. But men here often accuse women of being uniquely untrustworthy because what women say they are attracted to is not what they go for, ‘ask a fisherman not a fish’ and all that.’ I would argue that it is just part of the human condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:52 PM
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No, I meant objective as in they fit into the western standard of beauty, have symmetrical faces etc.. If being objective is to see something as it factually is, those women are objectively attractive in Western Society as they are white, slim, buxom, have plump lips etc. Subjective means based on personal tastes, while these women fit our societies standards irrespective of one’s personal tastes. I have edited my post to make this clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:48 PM
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Men on here say men find all women who are slim attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:42 PM
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Men on here say men find all women who are slim attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:42 PM
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Men on here make it seem like women have to clear a very low bar to be deemed attractive by all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:40 PM
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I don’t think someone has to be a natural beauty to be widely considered attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:38 PM
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What would you say the standard of beauty is?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:12 PM
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Do u think they have to fit into a Eurocentric standard of beauty to be attractive then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:52 PM
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They are often dehumanising. For example fetishes for black men often centre around hyper masculinity and at times become animalistic - this is unfair to black men bc it puts unrealistic standards on their behaviour. (I know a lot of black men play into this - but that is another discussion) Examples of this are bbc, black man strips innocent white girl of her innocence etc. you get the point. Another example is people often fetishize Asian women as hyper feminine and submissive, this strips the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:50 PM
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Do u think all non Europeans are unattractive then (I’m not saying you have to find them attractive), rather can you fathom how others could?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:44 PM
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I was just suprised men denied they generally have types.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:55 AM
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I agree it’s poor study, but I think it serves to demonstrate a sizeable number of men have a type, contrary to what’s being said here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:46 AM
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I have poor reading comprehension aha!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:37 AM
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I don’t think there’s much to be said in commentary online, these situations are often very complex and difficult, esp as ur saying bc victims often fail to see reason and leave. It’s best to look out for friends and family irl. I think the rise of therapy speak (perhaps overused) eg. Red flags, gaslighting, emotional abuse, will help people know what to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:30 AM
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If a preference falls away so easily why have it? For me I notice i sometimes do this. I think ohh I really like x type of guy, but then when I think about men I’ve been interested in they are not really limited to that. I think in my head I focus maybe more on the social benefits of x type but irl passion sweeps away such thoughts. What do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:14 AM
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Yes you put my point more succinctly. I agree people nowadays have less strict preferences, I meet a lot of people who don’t have any really except for the person being attractive. I think this due to media exposure to beautiful people of all kinds. Though for clarity there is a big difference btwn liking all sorts of things and taking what u can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:09 AM
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I think it’s the ok Cupid study from 2010s I’m not really sure, just search, dating app preferences study. If I remember correctly the sample size was low and it’s obviously dated, so hardly binding but my point was that some men have a type. Out of curiosity why do u believe it for Asian women but not white women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:06 AM
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Would a woman’s only use be for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:01 AM
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Did u read the linked studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:56 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/cea4QQbi1z What do you think of this conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:45 AM
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Why do you think men here are saying most men don’t have a type?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:44 AM
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A girl on this thread commented she was treated badly by men who dated her as she wasn’t their type, let’s assume she’s not unattractive esp. bc men here say they are attracted to most women, do you think this situation would happen often?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:35 AM
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Yes I agree! I don’t think it’s a bad thing to have a type or preference at all, unless it is a fetish or due to unresolved issue ie. Self hate. I asked the question bc men said and are saying they had no preferences at all when the data shows otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:32 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/cea4QQbi1z What do you think of this conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:25 AM
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It’s meant to be a counter factual for the bear hypothetical. It’s not exactly the opposite, but many men criticised that hypothetical for being misandrist as bears are much more dangerous than men. I wanted to see if men feel safer around women or men, as I think the idea behind the bear question is women don’t feel safe around men, although the framing of the question is very hyperbolic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:23 AM
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I have empathy for men in abusive relationships, I’m asking if you do, and if you can then extend it to women in similar situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:18 AM
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What about the woman you know irl what do you think they would act like?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:17 AM
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The usual argument redpillers use for betabux is that it is the womans last resort after being discarded by Chads. This could be similar to the non-type woman she is the last resort of the man, after being rejected by his type. But if we use your definition, does a woman not choose a simp provider because he fulfils her needs in a relationship? Do you think the emotional damage to both the simp/non type woman could be the same? Neither are their partners ideal - this could lead to worse treatmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:12 AM
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Blonde blue eyes skinny, at least in the UK. I’m not saying this is a bad thing, just that it is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:08 AM
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I agree, I this question demonstrates quite clearly how Reddit men deviate from the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:58 AM
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Do you think it would be fair to compare a man dating a woman ‘who in no way matches his type but showers him with attention,’ can be compared to the beta bux situation where a woman dates a man who is not her usual type because he simps for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:45 AM
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Yes I think the guys in this sub over represent a minority view, most people have looks standards, if not for personal preferences then social benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:38 AM
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What do you think of dating app ‘studies’ that say men of all races tend to prefer white and Asian women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:32 AM
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What do you think of dating app ‘studies’ that say men of all races tend to prefer white and Asian women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:31 AM
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What do you think of dating app ‘studies’ that say men of all races tend to prefer white and Asian women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:30 AM
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Why do people say men are visual creatures then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:27 AM
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I’m not! I was just pointing out the most common type.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:02 AM
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Often the men women are wary of aren’t the most physically imposing. It is often said here, women only get creeped out by men they aren’t attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:40 PM
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Why do you think men will sleep with women they wouldn’t have a relationship with? Do they have a lower looks threshold for sex, or is it about wanting the women their dating to look a certain way for social benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:39 PM
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So you think it’s beneficial for a woman to think you would rape and murder her? Not that you have the physical capacity (as most men even wimpy ones do) but actual intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:20 PM
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If you could afford to be selective, would you have a preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:01 PM
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One could argue the entire population of men is known for questionable behaviour. Although I take ur point. Was it you that said something about race and crime, I wrote along response but the og comment seems to have been deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:06 PM
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So you think it should always be a theoretical thought not a practical fear?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:59 PM
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No I don’t think all men are like that, but I think it is redundant to ask people in unfortunate situations why they chose an abuser. People aren’t rational esp when in love. I’m sure you know men who have been caught in the web of a bad woman, but are blinded by love or emotion. Also people who are manipulative often prey on vulnerable people who are weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:58 PM
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So do you take back your initial comment that women being wary at first instance (your words were default) is irrational and unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:53 PM
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I don’t disagree, in certain cultures things like scopolamine drugging are quite common. I was speaking from a European perspective, where we don’t see those things often.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:50 PM
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Because they are wary of male criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:28 PM
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Do you think it’s reasonable for women to be wary of men at first instance, if they get harassed on a weekly/monthly basis?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:26 PM
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I don’t think most women are wary about the vast majority of men being predators, just that they don’t know which are until further investigation. Although I will concede women probably think more men are predators than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:21 PM
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We’re in agreement. Although many men warn women to be wary in general not just at night, often assuming the worst of their fellow men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:15 PM
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I agree. I am upper middle class so I encounter physical violence less than someone from a different background might. However, most people aren’t upper middle class, so my experience isn’t representative. In fact is probably irregular, and my initial statement was about men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:08 PM
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What would be your guess for how often the average woman encounters predatory (ranging from sexual harassment to rape) from men in her lifetime?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:05 PM
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I agree that the average man is not a violent criminal. My question is do you think men who warn women to be wary of men are irrational?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:03 PM
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I agree men, women know are a larger danger, however, this doesn’t just apply to romantic partners but relatives, colleagues, associates etc. Do you think women shouldn’t take the risk of getting into relationships, as your answer suggests the blame lays at women’s feet for picking badly? I ask this as although vetting can be very effective, people who are good at manipulating often slip through the cracks or have planted seeds of control by which time it’s too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:00 PM
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Why do you think men tell women not to go out in revealing clothing if the chances of any harm are low, or not to walk late at night by themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:21 PM
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Many men are easily triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:07 PM
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I don’t think so, though you can get sick from eating the brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:01 PM
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I agree the sensationalism is for clicks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:58 PM
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That’s probably for kids
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:58 PM
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I think there is something meaningful to be gained from the question. Why do many women say a bear over a man, even if said flippantly? I think it reveals something about many women’s fears, overly neurotic or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:49 PM
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Yes that does seem like a series of stupid decisions indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:42 PM
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I think it’s interesting men aren’t typically prima facie wary of other men when they are statistically more likely to be assaulted by another man. I would guess it’s because there is a greater chance of fighting back, and a lesser chance compared to women of sexual violence which is generally viewed as more demeaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:41 PM
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Ahhh okay I’m new to posting here, I didn’t know answers under the automod were for things not explicitly stated in the automod.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:33 PM
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Yes, I guess teamwork is a greater possibility, bc there’s no chance w a bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:30 PM
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Okay so you think a man would be more active and handy, while a woman would become a dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:29 PM
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Trust and like are different imo. Also, not liking half the population is not a simple thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:28 PM
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These are good points, caution can be invaluable in the wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:25 PM
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This is a very neurotic view of women. Many complained women projected misandry onto the man bear situation by assuming the worst of men, do you think you are doing the reverse?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:20 PM
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What do u think it misses about the bear one? For me it’s that bears aren’t rational creatures so there is a narrower window of behaviour than a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:13 PM
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I agree I think your reasoning is sound but misses the rhetoric behind the best question. In terms of the bear question I would pick a man myself. As while some bears are relatively harmless, others have no chance against at all, while w a man there is a chance of cooperation and even if he was dangerous I have better chance of killing a man than a polar bear. In terms of why didn’t I just ask who is it safer w, I think it’s more interesting this way and also replicates the bear question in that…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:12 PM
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Do you think a man in this situation would not be afraid of you at all? Do you have no fear of strange people when you’re by yourself at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:06 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:03 PM
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I don’t have time to read any full studies but here are a few links. I’ve skimmed the abstract of all of them. Basically I don’t think impulsivity varies that much esp with age as w many gender differences but there is still significant difference. https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/the-power-everyday-choices/202002/gender-effects-self-control?amp https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/neuroscience/articles/10.3389/fnins.2014.00233/full https://www.researchgate.net/publication/247743974_Where…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:01 PM
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Yes, it’s very interesting how there are a lot of comments about sex and romance
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:49 PM
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This is a good answer. I agree w most points. However, referring back to the OP I was trying to ask about safety. Do you think neuroticism and resistance to discomfort is more of a danger than someone who is more physically imposing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:48 PM
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Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:46 PM
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The drama I thought you were referring to was interpersonal, in that scenario, you would only be looking out for yourself, against the other person
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:45 PM
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I understand I get along better w women, just because I feel more comfortable w them due to more common experiences/ I feel there is less room for misunderstandings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:43 PM
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I don’t have to watch it, could you give me a synopsis?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:41 PM
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The bear question is mostly about safety. Who do you think would be more agreeable and/or safe?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:40 PM
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What about a group of men v a group of women. Men here often claim women group think, so that could be an interesting factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:39 PM
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Why did u ask chatgbt instead of thinking of one yourself? Genuine question. I think it’s funny how we are starting to defer thinking to computers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:38 PM
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What if she’s gay, would you still pick her?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:31 PM
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Would the only benefit of a woman be romance?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:30 PM
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Why don’t you trust women? And how would their behaviour that causes the lack of trust present itself in this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:29 PM
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There is a high chance of drama on a desert island with no food! Say there was drama, do you think you’d have better chances of survival with a man or woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:27 PM
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Why would this be important? /gen
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:25 PM
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Why would you trust a man more?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:24 PM
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I don’t think it’s fair to say men have more self control. Men are on average more impulsive than women. However I do agree with you about strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:23 PM
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I don’t think it’s fair to say men have more self control. Men are on average more impulsive than women. However I do agree with you about strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:22 PM
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Mhmmm but I think it’s important to take into consideration other people can have different reactions and that’s okay. The other day I said to my friend (after spending too much time on here), I thought less of men as they seemed to be enslaved by their hormones, to which she replies she often felt a slave to her hormones due to pms. And I realised I just don’t experience strong hormonal changes, so it’s unfair for me to judge others for things outside their control. Similarly, other women may b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:12 PM
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it depends on what’s said. But in all cases it makes me think less of the person doing it, it demonstrates either a lack of self control or very poor social calibration. I’m not a person who gets scared easily though neither am I particularly neurotic, so other women could be scared and it would be valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 04:32 PM
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Catcalling happens outside of the ‘hood.’ Actually it takes place in most places.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 04:22 PM
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did u look at the reasons why they don’t want to date autistic men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:37 PM
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According to rp men most women don’t work in ‘male dominated fields’ tho and only do easy fluffy jobs?!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 03:08 PM
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wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:40 PM
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isn’t centering yourself when someone talks about a negative personal experience bad though. In the past I always tried to relate when someone said something bad happened to them to demonstrate empathy, but I’ve sort of picked up over the years that people see that as you making the conversation about yourself/making a competition of the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 09:18 AM
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