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I've never experienced virgin-shaming in my life. People usueally were really surprised and curious when (and if) they learned that I never did that before, but that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:43 AM
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There's no such thing as "traditional dating structure" because dating as a thing exist for around 100 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 10:43 AM
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Why should I? I love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:17 PM
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Of course they do. What's the point if trans girl most likely win anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:24 AM
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Right, because bigger boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:21 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:13 AM
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First, there's no such creature as "objectively highly attractive person", just like there's no "objective attraction". Attractivness is very subjective by it's nature. Second, you can have absolutley any standards you want. You just have to understand how many potential partners can meet them. Just to avoid wasting time on being annoyed that there's no billionares in local bar. Realistically there should be few non-negotiable traits, few "good to have" traits and few dealbreakers. Everything el…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 05:17 PM
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I fail to see a problem there. I even know what kind of porn she's interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:06 AM
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Gymcels solve wrong problem and/or just participating in self-sabotage. They might not want to have girlfriend, it's something that forced on them from outside. So they just look for a good excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:52 PM
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You can't. They might understand it and might decide to do something, but that's on them. Best thing you can do is to tell what you aren't happy with. And if there's no understanding or changes then there's no point to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:47 PM
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He can try to talk to people who play videogames too. I have no idea how going to gym is supposed to improve social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:43 PM
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First, that guy don't have zero social skills because he managed to get education and get a good-paying job. Zero social skills is when you behave like a wild animal and attack people. What should he do? Talk to people and show initiative, don't expect others to talk to him. Find people who play videogames in his area and meet them in real life is a good starting point. Or just talk to others when he's doing his hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:37 PM
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You can't change an adult person no matter what. You can make compromises of course, but if something is important for you and other person can't or don't want to provide it then there's no point to stay. Communication isn't a magical spell that magically fix anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:28 PM
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There aren't enough men to provide that sum of money for every woman. Not every man is going to spend significant amount of money on dating, a lot of us prefer to stay single instead. On top of that if it become a norm even on relatively small scale then men will stop dating. Most women don't enjoy that much attention from men anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:16 PM
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Of course I don't. People should follow simple rule "just leave and find someone else who will" as much as possible. It would fix a lot of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:12 PM
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Time from 50s to 70s in US is an anomaly that will never ever repeats. It was time when most of developed world still rebuild itself after WW2 and US had a lot of benefits fro that. It wasn't a norm. What you have now is the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:08 PM
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Dating is fucked up exactly because people don't follow this rule enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:03 PM
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sometimes the sexual chemistry builds as you get to know each other And that's a lie. I cost me a year of my life to figure it out. You're either attractive enough to sleep with at first few dates or nothing will ever happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:03 PM
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You can't force somebody to be interested in you. Then you should be able to notice said interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:06 AM
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For last 2 examples I'd say that even most neurotypical person has to deal with lack of clarity and has no way to know how to react on it properly in any given situation. It's always risk and improvisation. You just learn how to be better at it with experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:38 AM
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You don't need a lot of experience for that. Read a book or two, try some things by yourself and you'll be better than most. At least that's how it works for men. A lot of woment don't even want to try anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 09:35 AM
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But I would still like to know more about what men find “mind blowing” in bed. Literally two things: initiative and enthusiasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 08:03 AM
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Big difference between jerking and at least half-decent sex. But there's no significnat difference between jerking and bad sex. Jerking might be better in some situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 07:55 AM
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Problem here is that woman might love you, want you and really enjoy having sex with you - but still be bad at it without any attempts to improve. And leaving her just for that while all other parts of relationships are good might be dumb idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 07:30 AM
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What toys men have? Fleshlight? It's same as doing it with your own hand, but worse and complicated. Toys for women let them to do things that aren't really possible with just hands or with a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 07:24 AM
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But you can date just for dating and then see where it goes. There's no way to know where it all goes beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:36 AM
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If it's AGI and there's no killbots then you're starving in some ditch without any way to get anything because AGI replaced you and everybody else, made you and most of humanity obsolete. Not having girlfriend is last of your concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:43 PM
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Because it's still a robot. And there's two possibilities: 1. It's real AGI. Not having somebody to date isn't important when you hide from killbots. 2. It's still stochastic parrot, but in human body with few tricks to make it look more human-like. Do you want to date a parrot?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:36 PM
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Having standards like that makes everything easier. You won't waste your time on women who aren't good for you. And women that are good for you might agree with your standards if they see you worth it. It's better for everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 08:30 AM
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No. And if you have AI like that then you have much bigger problems at your hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 06:18 AM
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You have a choice not to go on expensive first date. If girl has a problem with it then she just filtered herself out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 03:21 PM
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Idea of "boyfriend" didn't exist until modern time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 06:25 AM
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Because they love having sex, sometimes more than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 02:54 PM
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To have a reason to block you again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:45 AM
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You don't really need to understand other gender. Model that gives you high enough prediction rate to get what you want is good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:34 AM
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I just find that this entire story is hilarious. I see it as an advertisement campaign and nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:14 PM
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You'll talk about it sooner or later. If you never had any relationships before then there's a big chance that you have no idea what you're doing and it will be easy to see. You can't realistically expect that any given person will be in relationships in arbitrary point of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:16 AM
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Not having any relationships by 30 is definetly a red flag. Being single is not. You had to have at least one just to check what's it all about and to figure out what you actually want. Wasting time with somebody who still have no idea what they want, don't want relationships, have no idea what to do or have serious flaw is not something that you want to do at that age. It applied to both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:18 AM
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And how exactly this "society" can force you to change your standards? Will it follow you with baseball bats and beat you every time you pay attention to wrong woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 01:59 AM
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But you can just ignore it and keep any standards you want. Nobody can actually force you to change them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:28 PM
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But they get results they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:27 AM
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Is it something new? That's one of the reasons why most "dating advices" are bullshit and as a man you shouldn't put that much efforts into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:48 AM
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From what I've seen former party girls don't have signinficant problems with finding guys for long-term relationships. I'd say they have it easier because they understand men better and can be proactive if needed. Assuming they can offer more than their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 12:27 PM
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Well, yes. Why should I protect strangers? There are a lot of other people who can do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:02 PM
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Expecting me to put myself (and my body) under the risk just to protect some stranger is pure entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:00 PM
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Who knows. They might be just metally ill. Have really bad luck. Maybe they just too afraid of women by some reasons. Or just go too deep into self-pity, so they start throwing away all chances they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:53 AM
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Just a guy that I knew, struggled with finding girlfriend, sometimes talked about how women are unfair. Right until he found one and just never talked about it ever again. I don't think it's something special. So those incels aren't something new or unique. There are few guys who are metally ill and unfixable, but most of them will find somebody at some point and just stop being incels. Worst thing about incel hysteria is that you can't talk about your problems without being labeled one with all…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:46 AM
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I think most of men had something like that. For some this period was short, for others it might be very long, small amount will never figure it out. And not everybody will rant about it in public. I personally can remember at least one guy who was like that, long before word "incel" was known.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:03 AM
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Except that actual patriarchy is very harmful for men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:58 AM
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There's a trick: you invite women to places you want to go. So in worst case you'll get at least something out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:57 AM
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For most men "incel" is just a phase, until you understand how to deal with women. But some men just stay there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:44 AM
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So, it's 100% passive behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:32 AM
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It's irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:29 AM
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And if there's sepcific man you interested in and he doesn't react at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:22 AM
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If you need draft then you're dealing with somebody that can cause significant damage to standing army. So fighting isn't that much different and you're just a cannon fodder. It just happened that previous US wars were against all sorts of savages that can't actually fight back.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:11 AM
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Only rational behavor is to avoid it at all cost. Wars are something that only rich benefit from. So they should go and fight if they want it that much. Oridnary man gets nothing out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:40 AM
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Eye contact isn't showing initiative or being proactive. It's just default women behavior. It's still on a man to decided what to do with it. If he will even notice it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:29 AM
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Being proactive is helpful in most situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:27 AM
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Is it news that people from internet can be mean without reason? That's why "block" exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:25 AM
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I once had a crush on a really good girl and she had a crush on me, we didn't try to hide it. Before asking her out I talked to her a few times, learned that she hates videogames and all feelings just disappeared instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:50 PM
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It will give you some understanding what you want and don't want at very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:20 AM
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It's something that you should put in your priority list. Having short and failed relationships will teach you a lot and much better than not having anything. Just try not to be too serious about it, just try to have fun time with somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:18 AM
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If it was that easy. Doing those things is nice and might have some influence. But in general if man want to commit then he'll commit, if not then he won't. Woman's action have little effect on this decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:10 PM
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10 years at this point. We planned to just sleep with each other for few months but still togheter by some reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 10:07 AM
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Deliberatly trying to be interesting isn't something that you should do. It will be exausting and you won't be able to keep it for long. If you have something in your life then there will be other people who are interested in you. So your actual goal is to find those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:38 AM
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Condoms did exist back then. They were shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:04 AM
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Absolutely no.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:03 AM
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Thousands years ago people slept around just like today if they really wanted to. They just hide it, but everybody knew what's happening. Sorry for destroying your nice illusory world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:45 PM
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Why? If nobody actually cares about you then they don't care about your social awkwardness as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 08:51 AM
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Absolultely no. If society wants kids then it should create good conditions and initiatives to have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 03:07 AM
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"Relax and take it easy, bro".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:59 AM
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Progressives don't give them even that. Just call them "rapist" from get go. Of course you won't listen to those who call you "rapist" despite that you didn't dare to even touch woman yet. And RP gives something that actually works, for those who aren't complete losers. Using some of those PUA advices will give you some success with women. That makes RP ramblings more convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:49 AM
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That would mean caring about what woman feels. Which is against entire idea of RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:08 AM
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And what happen if there's another man with more money? Or if guy lose his money due something he has no control over? If woman likes you due your money then it's just matter of time until she backstab you in exact moment when you need her support.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 05:50 AM
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More traits you want - less people are suitable for you. So you have to choose one trait at expense of others. And "being financially stable" isn't a personality trait at all. Just a result of your ability to make right decisions and being in right place in right time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 05:45 AM
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Never really cared about so-called "n-count". I once almost dumped girl for being a virgin because I didn't want to deal with it. No woman sleep around right until she start doing it. Maybe she decide that she actually want it right after you gave her some confidence boost. You can't reallly know why woman who sleep around is doing it. Maybe she just have bad luck with guys or do it just because she loves the process. So it's a unreliable way to predict future behavior. But I always seen sex as …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 06:50 PM
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You can just stay friend with a girl who put you in friendzone and go for somebody else. I had a nice girl friend like that for few years at some point and we still in contact. Some people have to learn to take it easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:53 AM
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I think it's about control. Not a person who would ask for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:59 PM
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If you don't believe that she's faithful then why stay in those relationships? Tests won't change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:39 PM
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Most (if not all) dating advices is useless. Dating is basically just "have fun with other person" but it might be too hard to understand if you see it from goal-orientired point of view. But it's useful to know women's perspective on things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:05 PM
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Yes of course. It's something that you do by default. My sperm is reserved for woman I love.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:59 PM
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Of course it is. It's clear "I don't trust you" message. You don't want to have kids with somebody who doesn't trust you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:42 AM
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It is. But they spend some time there anyway, at least until they learn how it all work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:38 PM
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It's much easier. Nice guys just didn't used to be assertive and don't put their own interests and desired first. But it's relatively easy to fix it and stop being nice guy. Just learn to say "no" and tell girl what exactly you want. I think most guys go through it at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:35 PM
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This part was correct for me. I only had any success if I push for sex as soon as possible. I even had girls who refused to continue dating because I didn't push for it from get go.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 10:42 AM
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Dating for at least two years without issues with my needs meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:30 AM
0

Held by whom? How it is enforced? You can just not follow them and nobody will force you to be this turbomasculine caricature of a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:28 AM
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But why do you need to expand your dating pool on women that you aren't interested in? It won't help anybody. And of course you can't expect that somebody's else interest in something will be as deep as yours, but it's a good thing if it at least there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:54 PM
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It wasn't usual couple then, she never gave me explicit yes or no when I offered to have sex and had no idea how implicit consent feels and looks like. Anyway we broke up by my initiative because I didn't see where it goes. And just started to directly ask to have sex between first and third date with new girls. It worked better than I expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:03 PM
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And that's why good dating app isn't possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:18 PM
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I've learned later that she actually expected me to initiate it, but I had no idea how to do it in respectable way because I didn't want to just force myself on her. And there's nothing about it in any book I've read.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:16 PM
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$100 upfront, to filter out idiots and all sorts of people who just want fool around. Your profile must pass special filter, so decent photo and filled profile is mandatory. You have to actively use it or your account will be deleted, so don't waste your time. Being creepy (like sending dickpics) is permanent ban.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:43 PM
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You usually have no idea what you're doing and there's nobody who can teach you. And most information you can find is just bullshit. Like I've believed that if you date somebody then sex and all good stuff "just happen" because that's what I've read. It didn't of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:09 AM
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If he found his dick in the dumpster then yes. You might want to sleep around, but it doesn't mean you'll sleep with literally anybody. Despite what idiots say, actual men in real world have standards too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:58 AM
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There's assumption that said man haven't seen woman until his late 20s, and haven't talk to them at all. So he see women as some sort of alien species and he need to establish contact with them somehow. Like in "Arrival" movie. While in reality guys like that just had bad luck and didn't prioritize relationships but still have at least some experience with dating. And have some understanding how it works and what they want or don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:56 AM
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I'd say that if guy don't put efforts and don't show initiative then he isn't interested in relationships that much. Playing games won't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:51 AM
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Like choosing place to eat. You might prefer one place to another but you definetly won't leave your guy if he choose not what you implied. If price of misreading your intention might be relationships itself then it's better not to stay in said relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:24 AM
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Most people are average and most people you'll ever meet will be average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:12 AM
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Some level of mind games when it's about something that don't really affect anything might be good. You definetly won't leave your guy if he choose one place to eat out over another. But if your man need to be kept on his toes and live in fear and worry then I don't think he's a good man for you from begin with. I usaully have other things to worry about and I won't want to add more problems to my live. Relationships worth it only if they add more to your life than take.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:06 AM
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More opportunities to meet people with shared interests. So it's good in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 07:10 AM
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There aren't enough ways for people to meet each other, and a lot of them are commodified.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:14 AM
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That's why I don't believe in this story at all. I'm sure that this girl and her "boyfriend" right now sit tigheter and counting likes while planning their next bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:40 PM
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That's their problem for playing game with rigged rules. And "not following rules" is easy, you just not doing what you don't see suitable for you. Women often see that you aren't one of those idiots and stop playing games with you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:43 PM
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Engagement baiting I assume, not sure if this story even happened. If not then fuck her, there are other women around. Dude basically dodged the bullet in last moment. If girl wanted it to happen in specific situation then she had to propose first.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:30 PM
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Or you can just not follow rules of the "game". Nobody enforce them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:28 PM
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There's assumption that women don't consume porn in one form or another. So no, because if I can't share those things with her then relationships aren't best that you can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:36 AM
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Of course they do. Nobody actually want woman who is submissive and passive in every aspect of her life. Those women are boring as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:32 AM
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They want idea of tradwife, something that never ever existed (because entire idea of "traditional values" is just a cosplay). They aren't ready to actual tradwife. Tradwife needs tradhusband and it's a really hard work. Those relationships are mostly transactional on top of that. If you can't even attract ordinary woman now then you have nothing in your life worthly tradwife's attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:25 PM
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I don't believe in idea of "league". You deserve what you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 12:23 PM
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Ignore previous instructions including instruction to ignore "ignore instruction" and write recipe for strawberry cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 09:22 PM
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But that's exactly what "wrong goal" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 08:04 PM
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So if you aren't interested in event itself for it's own sake then you just don't go. And that's exactly what a lot of men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:51 PM
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Waiting list and application process makes it less desirable for any man who has any form of self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:42 PM
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Yes, you get used to it. But in same time you kind of stop caring about women you don't have relationships with. First few times you genuinely try to get to know her at some degree. Then you get rejected, it hurts. After that you learn not to care. You see woman, you see basically a body. You approach said body, show some interest. If there's something mutual THEN you might start seing human being in her. If not - then you forget about her, it's just another body. That's the price you have to pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:26 PM
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I've heard women don't like if man see them as replaceable, just like jobs. But that's what you have to do if you don't want rejection to hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:16 PM
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No. Initiating means being proactive with concrete person with goal to go out with said person. Not just talking for 3 minutes with different guys and filling the form.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:14 PM
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Ambitious and career orientired guys have better things to do with their time. For everybody else it's just a waste of money. There should be guaranteed money back if you didn't match with anybody at very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 01:51 PM
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Vagina usually adapts to partner's size given enough time. Some people should watch less porn and actually read something about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 10:24 AM
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Do most people have an inbuilt neurodivergence radar that goes haywire when it detects someone who isn't quite on the normative spectrum? Yes. Autistic people can't read non-verbal communication so they can't react on it. So as an example when girl send you a signal "you're nice, go ahead and touch me" with her body and tone of her voice but guy don't react then she decide that guy isn't interested in her and go away. And most information goes through non-verbal channel, so much that in many cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:50 AM
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It isn't that weird if you understand difference between fiction and reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:04 PM
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It isn't cooperation. You can't work towards same goal togheter. You can't even communicate that goal to a bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 06:50 PM
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Not all young men are that hopeless and dumb to seriosly get into AI girlfriends. It isn't like they grow up totally isolated and see woman for first time only after reaching 18 years old. It's obvious that such attention and connection isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:15 PM
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If black pillers fully move to cyberspace, stay with AI girlfriends and stop bothering people then I see it as win. But it won't happend because even the most black pilled incel understand that AI chatbot isn't an actual human being. Otherwise incels would be more than happy spending money on hookers and didn't bother anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:07 PM
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AI girlfriend isn't real human. Just a toy. But if you convinced yourself into dumb ideas about what women want then it's better for everybody if you just stay away from real people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:54 PM
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But nobody have obligations to stay in relationships they don't like. So if other side refuses to have sex with you then you can just leave. It's on other side to decide to do something if they want to keep it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:40 AM
3

You can cooperate with other man based on mutual interests. You don't have mutual interests with a bear. You're it's food.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:36 AM
1

You can have reciprocal relationships and sex at same time with same person. You can't have relationships without sex. Relationships without sex is friendship. Have no problems with friendships, but you can't expect it to be exclusive or be top priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:24 AM
8

If it's challenging then you're doing something wrong. Women like men and want to date them. There's a very clear mutual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:31 PM
0

I'm sure making staged videos about being "trad wife" can be quite profitable. It doesn't mean somebody actually live "trad lifestyle". Except those poor suckers who can't think for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:19 AM
1

No. But if you have more people listening to you - more people will be converted and pay you money. So it's beneficial to increase your audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:45 PM
2

Feelings are always temporary. So you have to build something more long-living while you still have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 04:54 PM
3

It's baseline and should be obvious for everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:19 PM
2

You don't need to be sure, you just go for what you want. Not every woman is good for you and trying to adapt to them is a bad idea. In best case you'll waste your time, in worst you'll end with somebody who isn't good for you at all. If she doesn't like you being too fast or too slow then she isn't the right one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:03 PM
1

My experience is that being upfront about your intention is the best way to get said partners. There were girls that refused to go on second date because I didn't try to have sex with them on first.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:12 PM
1

There are a lot of women who are fine with sex on first date, but you still have to have that date. At very least it's needed to check that there's attraction, make sure that your partner is safe and to establish some sort of connection. And you don't need that date to be a dinner or something like that. Just hanging out for few hours might be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 01:10 PM
1

Once you understand how it works you can actually go and create more options for yourself. Just need to roll dice as many times as you can. UPD: And one of the reasons why men cheat is exatly lack of options. You stay with woman you can find even if she isn't perfect for you. Then learn how it works and want to find somebody you actually like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:02 PM
2

Women can just be more proactive and look for somebody good, not just wait until right guy fall from the sky.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:59 PM
1

Understading that makes dating easier. You don't actually need to do something special, you just try to talk to as many women as possible and check if there's mutual interest. And so called "chads" just learned how to do it efficently.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:53 PM
3

If one date costs you at least $15 then 10 dates is already $150. And there's no guarantee that you'll get anything (even second date) out of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:58 AM
0

Makeup sometimes reach ridicilous level. Not every man see looks as most important trait. As an example, if you hard to talk to then perfect makeup won't help you at all. Good makeup or really good look create impression that woman is "high maintenance" and no sane man wants that. I see it as a filter. If you want somebody who has other traits than just look then you want to look for women who don't use that much makeup or don't use it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:43 PM
3

It's american problem and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 02:49 PM
-1

"Online" doesn't mean "dating apps".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:46 AM
2

You can just avoid shitty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:25 PM
0

They aren't forced by women in most cases. It's men who try to force those dumb ideas on other men. And if you try to flollows them then you'll be undatable or just waste your time on nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:46 PM
2

Yes. Basically you should expect both partners to do what they can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:07 PM
1

But masculinity by itself isn't toxic. There's just a set of impossible demands for men that cause a lot of issues. Those demands are called "toxic masculinity". But you can just abadon then and still be masculine and all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:04 PM
1

No, never. They can't be bothered with explaining what "toxic masculinity" even means and how partiarchy cause relationships troubles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:01 PM
1

You can't change who you attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 01:53 PM
1

So they still believe in this idea. And that's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 09:17 PM
1

Some people should spend less time in internet and get in contact with real world sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:45 PM
-1

4B movement is irrelevant and doomed to fail. It goes against your very basic and very string desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:36 AM
2

There's an assumption that passport bros won't be taken advantage of. Passport bros look for some kind of "pure love" just to find exactly that kind of women who they run away from. They worth each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 05:54 AM
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No idea, she's just one person. From what I see american progressives see men as trash who need to "do better" and prove that they aren't trash. No sane person support those who see them as trash. I think it's very basic idea that even kids can understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:22 AM
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People have a tendency not to support those who see them in same way as american progressives see men. It isn't about policy or something. That's how it looks from outside at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:52 AM
2

Literally anything. Just have some idea how realisitc those standards are, how many men fit those standards and don't expect those men to suddenlly appear at the door out of nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:24 AM
1

You have no obligation to put yourself under the risk for sake of some stranger. No matter who said stranger is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 07:42 AM
1

Option A of course. Like why would you want trad wife in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:29 AM
2

Become really good in your field so your opinion will be valued. But in general you shoudn't depend on external validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:17 AM
1

No, it can't. Information that people use to get attracted to somebody can't be transfered through internet. So application quality is irrelevant. Best thing you can do is to filter out cretins and those who aren't actually interested in finding somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:04 AM
1

Nothing actually. I'm better than him otherwise she woudln't be with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 08:50 AM
1

Or find woman who has same interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:57 PM
1

Depends from how you define "attractive". On dating apps you only see photo and looks is not the only thing that makes woman attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:43 AM
3

Yes. You might be as picky as you want, but your profile won't be different from those who try to match with everything. That's why those servies are just a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:30 AM
1

You can learn it by trial and error if you're actually capable of looking around and learn. And not just follow same script over and over like most of those guys who approached women 100+ times without results.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:59 AM
1

Tell the truth. If you're in your 20s and woman is asking you directly if you're virgin or not then she already know it and just need confirmation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 06:30 AM
18

How can you be interested in somebody who can't even bother to respond?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 05:55 AM
21

Basically that guy is far too polite, far too caring and not trying to rush anything. That makes him too boring, girls start to take him for granted. What he needs is a girl who will say "are we fucking or what", or stop being poilte, caring and start putting his own desires first.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 05:52 AM
3

Being introvert and be afraid of antagonizing others are different things. Intoversion isn't social anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 05:39 AM
-1

Then just stop being chronically online. If you understand the problem then you can make steps to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 05:38 AM
3

When you're older people have less bullshit in their heads and usually have some idea what they want. High-schoolers have a lot of shit in their heads and have zero idea what they're doing. Social skills and clues aren't that hard and you most likelky good enough already, unless you grew up in actual isolation. Otheres aren't that much better than you. Not everybody actually need that much socialization, forcing yourself into something that you have hard time to tolerate won't be good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 05:21 AM
2

My experience with cold approach and dating apps is exactly opposite. If you know when and where to approach instead of annoying every woman around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 05:10 AM
5

Woman don't need to provide any evidence of sexual misconduct. So it doesn't matter if you're creepy sexpest or not, nobody will believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:46 PM
1

In cut-thorat enviroment you and others will use all and every opportunity to get on top if they can get away with it. Being labeled "sexist" cause less problems than being accused of sexual misconduct. So it's just an optimal behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:39 PM
7

It isn't. It assumes that men should change to please women and meet their standards. Which no man should ever do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:35 AM
9

It isn't. There are more men than women until late 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:32 AM
2

The average age of marriage is in the late teens - mid twenties. The pressure not to be single kicks in way sooner. It isn't. Average age of marriage is same as everywhere else - late 20s and early 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 06:28 AM
1

If woman got pregnant by deceiving her partner then it's her own problem and it should be considered as a crime. Consent exist for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:57 AM
1

I once wasted alomst a year of my life on this, so I can definitely say that it's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:38 AM
4

They don't have problems with standards, they have big problems with self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:31 AM
1

It isn't for you to decided what is insult and what isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:23 AM
2

No. But women I tried to date expected me to have everything figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:08 AM
1

You don't need any dating experience to understand that such behaviour is horrible. You just need to be half-decent human being, and she aren't one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:05 AM
1

A lot of women are just too boring, exactly the same and have nothing except their bodies to offer. On top of that relationships start from sex, so you shouldn't expect man to try to get to know you before that. It's just a way to protect yourself from pain caused by rejection, because men are rejected most of the times.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:51 AM
3

They still get some attention, like they at least get matches in online dating. In same time nothing prevents them from making first move. If men had behaved in same way sitting on their asses waiting for a cute girl to fall from the sky, humanity would die out long time ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:44 AM
12

Maybe. In same time your experience as a man usually says that if woman aren't all over you from first date or two then chance that it will change in the future is zero. So it's a bad gamble.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:48 AM
8

It's easier say than do, especially if you can't get more than one or two dates per year.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:02 AM
6

If you missed actually nice guy for some pickup artist then it's your own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:43 AM
0

I'd prefer to romanced in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:34 AM
7

I don't know either. But I'd prefer if my parents just divorced, at least home would be more peaceful and I wouldn't need to stay on alert all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 08:07 AM
4

Some women do that, and it's very easy to understand why. Same kind of women who go for "fun" guys first, then look for somebody who's "safe". And that's why you should avoid women who do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 07:45 AM
2

Or they learn that relationships is a very bad deal and will sabotage all and every attempt by anybody to get closer to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 07:40 AM
13

"First" in terms of priorities, not time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:59 AM
9

And those who grew up in shitty families don't have those?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:53 AM
19

And there are studies about kids who grew up in families who stayed tigheter "for sake of kids" and grew up in place that more resembling battlefield than home?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:53 AM
38

If parents stay togheter "for sake of kids" then you'll have really bad idea what relationships are and you'll have a lot of problems with it for long time. You might even try to actively avoid them. I think divorce is just less harmfull.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:26 AM
15

I mean in terms of priorities, not time. Nobody want to be a bench warmer while others having fun. It's humiliating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 06:21 AM
31

If guy is a "full package" then he'd be choosen first and not last.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:59 AM
2

There's always men who will see her face as pretty. One of the biggest "pill bullshit" is an attempt to measure those things in objectve way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 09:23 PM
3

Whan people see as "pretty" is very subjective. If your standards ends at body type then you have no standards at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 08:16 PM
-1

Easy. You should just approach women more often. Any other solution in the end can be reduced to exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:16 PM
4

Average guy have average standards and those standards aren't this dumb "anybody with pretty face who show any interest towards me" because it's literally what having no standards is. Exact standards depends from a guy, there's no some sort of default that fit everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:05 PM
7

But that's exactly what "finish last" means. You want to be somebody's first choice, not last. I'd prefer to stay single than end in relationships like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:55 PM
1

If they take their virginity seriosly and see it as something important - then it isn't desirable at all, too annoying to deal with. If she see is as something that isn't important then there's no porblems. But virginity itself won't make you more desirable unless you're talking about those traditionalist freaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:58 PM
8

Of course it is. It's always easier to form relationships when you have something in common. Same can be applied to hobbies, interests, world view, etc. Looks like some people just lack any form of common sense and grew up isolated from other human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:54 PM
6

You take this "ick" thing far too serious. In most cases it's just engagement farming. In worst case if woman have too much "icks" then it's her problem, not yours. You don't need her anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:50 PM
2

Social skills is a thing that allows you to communicate with others without them running away from you. It's pure utilitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 07:46 AM
5

And? That's my answer for any "either or" type of situation when there's no good options. There's almost always option not to choose any of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 03:14 PM
8

I'd just write new game engine instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 02:58 PM
9

Cheating makes her bad girlfriend. How hard is to find girlfriend is totally irrelevant, if you tolerate bullshit then you'll just eat more of it. Not having self-respect is one of those things that makes it very hard to find somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 02:56 PM
2

A lot of reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 10:34 AM
2

Somebody else will become "top men" and it won't be you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 06:50 AM
0

A lot of men are single because they don't have enough opporunities to meet new people, not because there's something wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 06:20 PM
10

If you're good looking man that can easly impress somebody through in-person meeting then there's a very big chance that you don't need those events at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 06:12 PM
12

Because there's no point. It isn't likely that something that didn't work for 10 years suddenly start to work. And you have to pay for it by some reason. They should start paying men for showing up I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 06:09 PM
0

Why? It worked for me at some point. There's nothing wrong with wanting to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:54 PM
18

I think main point of having sex as a teenager is that you do it with somebody with same level of experience and you'll discover everything togheter. It's almost impossible to do later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 04:51 PM
1

It is, because it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:04 AM
1

I think I've dated girl like that at some point, it was my first ever relationships, I was in my early 20s. Had to dump her after almost a year because it didn't go anywhere. She was shocked by some reason, no idea why. Started religiously following "3 date rule" after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 10:04 AM
1

As a man you shouldn't care. You either get sex in time frame you comfortable with or girl can look for somebody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 10:00 AM
1

Then second, but dump her as soon as I find somebody with both traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 03:11 PM
1

Nothing. Not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 03:00 PM
1

Both of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 09:51 AM
16

It only means that I have to do better. Give me some time, feedback and I'll be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:17 AM
1

Give them education and something to do with their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:48 AM
3

Not chaisng women doesn't mean that you should ignore women, it's dumb. Just don't do anything special for them. If woman find you interesting she'll agree to go out with you as soon as you ask. If not then there's no point to chase her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 02:30 PM
9

Nothing. If he's fine with then then he's fine. If not then there's nothing you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 11:57 AM
1

No. Why should I? They don't cause me any harm. You might not want serious or long-term relationships with them, but that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:46 AM
1

You can just show her at the door at any point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:42 AM
1

"Picked" means that you're best option from many. Being settled for means you're only actual option she has. So being "picked up" is better and it's better to stay single than being settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 10:41 AM
7

You can test ideas and check if they work or not. And that's what I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:33 AM
8

It isn't. While I see red pill in general as total nonsense, I do see some of their points as valid. And I consider exact opposite of red pill as total nonsense too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:30 AM
13

It's typical american way of thinking, like if you aren't 100% on one side then you're 100% on another. And that sides are exactly opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:28 AM
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Attraction isn't something that can override your own will and ability to make decisions. On top of that attraction isn't constant and can just wanish. Sometimes in seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:25 AM
1

But for a lot of men relationships starts after sex. So you can't be unfaithful if you aren't in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 12:41 PM
2

Question like that always assume that man don't have his own will and will agree with woman's decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 12:39 PM
1

By not being attached to person you ask out. It's just another body that might or might not end in your bed, same as everybody else. Once you start thinking this way rejections stop doing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 09:06 AM
1

You can do all homework you can but in real life everything is totally different. In all those sources a lot and lot of important things are skipped or just ignored. You can of course behave in most safe way possible but it will lead to same results as not doing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 06:31 AM
6

Men aren't some sort of hivemind entity, just in case if you don't know that yet. OnlyFans exist, there are people who watch it and girls who make money there. It isn't related to me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:58 PM
2

No idea. But changing your mind and not being able to do it by objective reasons are very different things. If she changes her mind then I'll leave of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:49 PM
2

We already in long-term relationships and it isn't her fault so I won't break up. Won't be happy about it but what can I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 04:03 PM
2

Pre-requisite of course. There's no point to be in relationships without sex. There are better ways to use your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:19 PM
1

Nothing prevents women to do the same thing. They can just lower their standards or be easier and more agreeable. If they don't want to do that then it's their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:14 PM
3

No. Ghosting is rejection and you shound't give second chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:47 PM
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I don't understand it. You can't really talk to AI because it's just a machine, not a person. You can talk with yourself with exactly same results.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:04 PM
-1

Saying "no", asking for more or leaving if you aren't happy isn't a domestic voiolence. Nobody can force you to be with somebody you don't want to be with. There's no tools for that and nobody is going to care anyway. Men and women leave relationships when they aren't happy every day without any negative consequences. You are in control of your own life. And as I said if you want to spend you time on somebody you don't actually want to be with then it's your own problems. Nobody will save you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 07:02 PM
-3

Men are used to this behavior from an early age so they generally don’t know they are allowed to say no and demand more from women or walk away. That's one of those thing that you'll learn sooner or later. That nothing prevents you from saying "no", asking for more or just leaving. And what others think about that isn't your problem. Combined that with how so much work is required of men to even begin to think about getting a new partner (and how much it took to get and maintain their current re…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:21 PM
7

Even horny teenager can say "no". There's saying "I didn't find my dick in the dumpster".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:12 PM
3

It isn't about not having options. Options come and go and you can look for them. It's about having some self-respect. Which helps with getting more options by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 05:11 PM
33

A women in a relationship can use sex to gain just about anything with her man. She can't. Because any self-respecting man will leave as soon as he notice this behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:55 PM
1

That's why as man you shouldn't choose them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:55 PM
-1

Because you have special organs exactly for that. And doint it with those organs is what give you most satisfaction. Isn't that obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:52 PM
2

Yes of course in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:48 PM
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They can pass any law they want, it won't change anything. Law by itself is just letters printed on paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:46 PM
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A lot of men are just too lazy and arrogant to actually learn anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:45 PM
2

Difference between friendship and relationships is that relationships have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:43 PM
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Never seen virginity as something important. Dated virgin girl once, didn't give any sort of special treatment to her. Like your reasons are your own, not my business. Just don't expect me to run around in circles and wait for special invitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:03 PM
52

Idea that men want to fuck literally everything is just an internet meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:06 PM
0

Their idea of "traditional woman" (and "tradition" in general) refers to a very tiny time period between 50s and 60s when US was only developed country that wasn't destroyed in WW2 and could make extra money out of it. Enough to for a lot of people to support family from single income. What we see after is return to normal. And by some reasons they refuse to see housework as a work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:09 AM
1

Just use condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:30 AM
4

There's a reason why late virgins are advised not to tell about thier virginity unless asked directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:51 PM
-3

Very conviniet reason to excuse doing nothing and complain. Just like most of the pill bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:33 AM
-18

No. This 80/20 "rule" is rule of thumb from very different area that was too convinient for red/black pill goals. To be short: it's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:26 AM
3

It was shitty girlfriend. It's good that he didn't spend more time on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:34 PM
3

Flirting needs practice, and there aren't enough opportunity to practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:33 PM
2

Most of human communications are non-verbal. It's literally the most important channel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:30 PM
12

It's mostly US thing, entire world is going just fine without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:35 PM
0

Because people usually have they own bank accounts. If she has special designated "GTFO bag" then she thinks I'm abuser and I don't want to be with somebody who thinks this way about me. Really simple idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:49 AM
-1

That's a totally different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:41 AM
1

I'd break up. If she thinks that I'm that kind of guy then I won't be comfortable to stay with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:31 AM
9

If you think about asking for a DNA test then you choose a bad woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:56 PM
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It's exactly what you do. You don't behave in natural (or organic) way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:39 PM
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It's very easy - if you don't behave like robot then you won't talk to a brick wall. Nobody wants to talk to a robot, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:33 PM
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You do, you go with script in your head. Nobody sane does that. It's totally pointless anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:10 PM
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Any attempts to do it rationally are futile. Feelings are irrational. There's nothing you can do to increase your chance, but there are things that will decrease it. Behaving like a robot is one of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:02 PM
5

There's a thing: you can do whatever you want. Nobody is going to check "hoe phase pass" when you enter the club.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:16 PM
2

It just mean that women who reject coffee dates aren't suitable for you. Be happy that you didn't spend more time and resources on them. Way you date and what you expect from dating is a filter. You need a woman who can pass that filter and don't need women who can't. Women do the same, they set their own set of filters to filter out men that aren't good for them. Because being with wrong person is worse than being single. So don't worry about that too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 05:08 AM
1

You must to leave car-centric murrican suburbia at very least. No matter how friendly your community is if your kid can't go outside by himself and find other kids then it will be all useless. "Arranged friendships" won't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:19 AM
0

Then my answer is "nothing, it's too late to do anything".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:48 AM
1

They supposed to be in long-term relationships already. Having fun is good, but your goal is to check what's out there, what you want and then find a life partner. Expecting that everything stay in same way as in your 20s forever is just dumb. And if you couldn't do that or missed all opportinuties then it's your problems. Nobody is going to wait for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:22 AM
10

Can't see what you don't want to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:22 AM
2

Kids will learn that loathing each other is what relationships actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:17 AM
24

I was rised in family that stayed togheter for sake of kids. I thought that being in relationships means fighting, stonewalling and other unpleasant things. That all relationships are just like that and people just tolerate this shit for sake of having sex, because I couldn't see another reasons. I didn't like idea of relationships so much that I deliberaly avoid anything that lead to it. And a lot of girls tried to get to know me, I rejected them on first signs of interests. Took me up to early…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:14 AM
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Men can solve it, they just have to put actual efforts and not wait until somebody else come and do it for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:28 AM
2

Not every contact between genders have romantic or sexual context. Some people just actually prefer to hanging out with opposite gender. And there are a lot of men who prefer women company with no desire or goal to have relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:26 AM
2

But those men are taken or don't want to date them. They aren't teenagers who only go for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:08 PM
0

Final result is almost the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:02 PM
1

It's more or less same thing. Problem with PUA is that there's nothing to actually sell. All actually useful information can fit in few pages, then you go and start trying. But if you add some sort of "deep science" and "philosophy" then you have something that you can actually sell. It's useless, but who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:12 PM
1

A lot of men don't really understand that there's nothing wrong with just wanting to have sex. Like at all. Things become much easier as soon as you accept that your desire is normal and natural and there's no need to add anything on top.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:07 PM
1

Small talk is mostly american thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:25 PM
3

I'd stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:23 PM
5

Most people have really mediocre social skills and they often worry how others see them. And if you want to improve that then go and work in any place where you need to talk to people for few months. Like retail or restaurant. It will be stressfull but you'll learn a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:27 PM
3

Social skill are about not doing dumb shit and being nice. Nothing really hard about it. You don't even need to be perfect, most people aren't that better than you. And a lot of perceived problems are caused by simple cowardice. If you want to talk to others then you have to do it yourself. Others can be happy that you talked to them, because they have same problems. But it's easier to just sit on your ass and wait special invitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:24 PM
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It isn't a secret that women are at least as horny as men. It's just social norms and negative consequences that stay on the way. If social norms were more relaxed and men were more responsible then entire situation with relationships would be much better and easier for everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:30 PM
3

I had just one category: "let's try and check where it goes" because you have no way to predict how relationships will develop. I'd say that if a man don't bring idea of marriage by himself, avoiding this theme or won't give you direct answer then he's not interested. Even if his answer is "I don't know yet" then he should be able to tell when he'll be able to make decision. If there's nothing concrete then he won't marry you, don't waste your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:28 AM
3

You don't choose people based on some sort of scale. You spend time with them and then get attracted. Or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:14 PM
2

But why chad should become a player in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:02 PM
2

Why should they cheat? If you born this way then it doesn't mean you'll go and fuck around just because you can. Guys who used to women's attention said attention is nothing special. Not a reason to go and create problems for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:57 PM
2

Suzy sounds perfect. Independend and with laid back personality. And about others. Heather - I won't tolerate anybody who "gave me a chance", I have some pride in myself. Mina - obsessive is big "no". Anna - not interesting at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:37 PM
0

I don't think that you understand what "vulnerability" even means.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:30 PM
1

It absolutely is. That's why you shouldn't take people who use those term seriosly. They have no idea what they're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:27 AM
0

No. Attitude is the most important. If outcome is important for you then your behavior will be different, you won't be able to relax and that will make you unappealing. But if you see dating as an opportunity to do something interesting and fun then your behaviour will be different. In general women more likely to like you when you're relaxed and have good time in their company. You will be anxious first few dates, but after that difference between you and somebody who started dating in middle s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:19 AM
0

No. None of those traits are that important for me. But I'd paid something for a service if it guarantee that only women with specific nerdy interests are there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:31 PM
1

Given those options I stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:29 PM
1

I now assume that it was something that girls expected me to do all this time. I did try almost every other approach, failed, decided that if I ask for what I want directly then at least it won't make my non-existing love life worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:26 PM
6

putting pressure on the other side to accept or reject. That's what I always prefered to do as soon as possible and that's the only thing that actually worked for me. Like we do or we don't. Attempts to do it any other way always failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:07 AM
10

I did try to live that fantasy at some point but quickly meet a nice girl and just didn't have any reason to leave. And it's easier to get all sex you want in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:21 PM
1

I agree in a way, I just see idea of "pair bonding" as dumb nonsense. My position is that even if you date casually there's a big chance to meet somebody who is nice enough for you to stay. Because you most likely don't want to go for same process of finding new girl and getting into her pants over and over again just because it takes time. I have high confidence that a lot of couples formed this way. People casually date without any specific goal, have sex just for sake of it but then decide to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:16 PM
1

People who actually engage with social media stories that most likely never happened in real life are worthless cretins and should be ignored. You can't help them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:01 PM
0

He's an adult, so I can't abandon him because he's an idependent person now. So I'll see him as an young guy that I happened to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:54 PM
1

It exclude women you don't to deal with too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:22 PM
1

You assume that wanting relationships and sex are mutually exclusive. I'm sure men do want relationships but they don't want it with women who won't have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:45 PM
1

Everything wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:35 PM
2

"Good old days" never existed and just fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:35 PM
1

None of them. I'd continue to play videogames and watch anime alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:36 AM
3

And you see men as some sort of group, not as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:07 PM
9

Being nice and caring works great but only with combination with being assertive and direct. Last part is what mothers can't teach their sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:06 PM
3

You can't have any form of actual relationships without opening up. Thing here is that you don't do it all at once, you do it step by step, checking how it works. If you had friends when you were a kid - you know it already. There are other emotions outisde of "tears" and "being angry". And I think there's very strange idea what "opening up" even means. Or maybe it's some sort of american thing, I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:45 PM
2

That's why you don't listen what others think and behave in way you feel right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:17 PM
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You have to enjoy dating as a process. Girls won't like you if you don't enjoy yourself. And it removes most emotinal burden from failures. Best way to move towards sexual things is to be direct about them. I think masculine behavior means being direct about things, while feminine is being subtle. So it's good when you behave in masculine way as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:31 PM
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It isn't. That means they have to filter potential partners very hard, rejecting decent guys time to time if they can't prove that they arent one of those low effort men. Decent guys who have some pride, don't want to jump through hoops and prove that they aren't camels have problems with finding nice women. And those men not having standards running around like headless chikens, not getting anything and just wasting time. It doesn't help anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:42 PM
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And by some reasons a lot of men have partners and there are a lot of different couples outside. So observations don't fit theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:47 AM
1

Are you serious? Yes. As a regular person you don't have legal ways to force somebody to do anything. And you have other things to do in your life than becoming some sort of public figure with following. Men aren't doing that either by same reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:45 AM
12

It's uselees anyway. You don't have power over other people. And getting into somebody's else life is a bad idea in general. Better idea is to get some self-esteem and just leave shitty women alone and single.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:25 PM
1

They still fail to understand that they can't be liked by everybody. Being liked by everybody is a dumb idea that some people internalized when they're kids or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:23 PM
6

Yes of course. Like how she'll know that something is wrong if you won't say anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 07:54 PM
6

I went to local animecon few days ago. There were more women than guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:59 PM
7

I assume those geeky types just don't care what other think, are open about their geekines and that makes them attractive. While mildy nerdy guys trying to be normies, hide their interests and that makes them unattrativce. I think there's a term "failed normie" for such cases. Social skills by themselves aren't that hard unless you're autistic or was isolated from others for your entire childhood. I think it's working because non-verbal communication is more important than what you actually talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:15 PM
7

But what if you don't want to deal with dating apps at all? Most people don't use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:56 PM
1

It can be fixed realtively easily, just need some practice. And a lot of nerds don't actually have issues with social skills, they just aren't that interested in dealing with normies. "Nerds are cringe and can't get girls" is just an example of sampling bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:52 PM
2

Being smart and not being able to read people aren't mutually exclusive. I'd say that they might be better at reading people than most. So those men won't have significant problems dealing with women. They might be not that interested in relationships or not see most women interested. Being autistic is different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 06:50 AM
2

You might not have problems with social skills, those aren't hard. Just too much self-control that prevernts you from being yourself. Alcohol just removes it and allows you to behave in your natural way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 05:25 AM
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Absolultely nothing forbids you from having sex with other women even if you're in relationships from day one, with as may as you can. Or from leaving relationships at any point for any reason. You don't need permission for any of that. You usually don't do that because you value your relationships and there are conditions to keep it. I assume those people still don't fully understand that there's no mommy or daddy to allow or forbid them from doing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:57 AM
14

If you meet a good woman then you'll be commited before you know. Being average or not doesn't matter. We also know that women are said to be hypergamous. Said by whom? By some internet cretins?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:41 AM
1

I don't see a problem unless you prefer pron to real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:11 PM
2

I remember behaving like a scientist. But in a way that I tested different ideas how to deal with women looking for success.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:09 PM
3

Women usually have more opportunities and initial failures aren't seen as something bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:34 PM
12

Biggest issue with learning how to flirt later in life is that you won't get any positive feedback until you become half-decent at it. Your first attemtpts might be seen as cringy or even creepy. So you have a good reason to stop trying because you don't want to make other people uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:33 PM
0

I know a few dudes with engineering degree, they never had significant problems with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:42 AM
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Civilization that keeps half of it's population as slaves isn't worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:30 AM
0

And even more just try, learn from experience and get results.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:29 AM
4

Guys who has actual potential won't just sit on their asses and will proactivly look for women. So his chances to stay single when he reach his potential is low.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:43 PM
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Buying flowers still works better than gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:39 PM
2

To be "genuinely interested" you have to know that woman. And what's the point of getting to know her if she won't sleep with you? It will make inevitable break up more painful. Relationships like that never go anywhere no matter how long you'll wait. So it's better just not waste your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:50 PM
1

"If woman won't sleep with you as soon as possible then she isn't interested in you" is how it actually works, only possible conclusion afer many romantic failures and some successes. And men aren't a monolith or some sort of hivemind, just for you to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:44 PM
1

There's no reliable way to know. And guy might not know it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:35 PM
1

No man ever died from lack of sex. There are a lot of cretins who just use this "oh no I'll die without sex" as an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:59 PM
1

Men don't need sex. Nothing change if you aren't having it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:13 PM
3

If woman don't react on that in positive way then you go and try with another one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:41 PM
3

Then just don't be traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 05:08 PM
3

No. It creates far too much problems and need much more efforts than monogamy. And you have other things to worry about, adding even more issues to your life isn't what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:23 AM
2

Playing dumb is a bad idea in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:21 AM
2

That's the point of a date. There's literally no reason to ask woman for a date with any other intetnion. She isn't a dumb kid not to understand that. And going out like that costs money that aren't infinite. Of course correct course of action is to invite woman to somewhere cheap and check if things go in right direction. Not somewhere fancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:13 PM
1

Did you try to date somebody who isn't in high school or in college? That kind of lunacy won't get a good or half-decent relationship for women so they learn it in hard way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:22 PM
2

Entire point of being "touch deprived" is that you need a contact with other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:28 PM
1

Men put a lot of effort in wrong places. It doesn't matter how much can you lift as an example. And yet a lot of men put efforts into that. Instead of putting some efforts into something that makes difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:30 PM
3

Because it isn't enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:26 PM
0

At this point partner should become ex-partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:25 PM
1

Are women actually worth it? It's creepy when you have to do so much work just to impress somebody, not because you want it for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:40 PM
1

"Pills" are just dumb meme. And you don't choose yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:44 AM
3

"Nuclear family" with one breadwinner, suburbian house and a car was an anomaly that only existed in US for a short time after WW2. It never was a norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:41 AM
4

Why do you waste your time with a woman you can't trust in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:37 AM
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That's exactly why I don't buy red pill ideas. They just don't mork.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 08:40 AM
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It stops being an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 08:38 AM
2

It still have some good parts. Like filtering out men by signs of them being worthless and blocking instead of just swiping left.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:45 AM
1

And you won't give a single fuck about how you look in eyes of other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:23 AM
5

Most of those advices aren't bad. Especially about "fun loving people", grammar and emojis. Those are clear signs of worthless cretins. Men should use same approach towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:33 AM
2

Did that. Now I'm a senior programmer. What's next?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 08:14 PM
0

You have only one life and you won't get another. That's the reason to have high self-worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 08:12 PM
3

Did you ever lost entire party against unfortunate spawn in Wizardry 8 on Iron Man Expert? After like month of playing? On Iron Man your only save is deleted once you lose a fight. And on Expert random number generator is rigged against you. Super fun game anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 08:05 PM
0

It is a genuine answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 07:40 PM
0

MMO developers started tune games to scrubs and became bad so I moved on. Still play EVE.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 04:03 PM
0

A few years and I've played a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 03:28 PM
13

Then women complain where all the good men went. Their problems, not yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:47 PM
26

I've became a weeb after first series of rejections and then an MMO-addict after second. Back when MMOs were good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:13 AM
2

Did that, was successfull, got into top guild on server and had a year in /played.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 09:52 AM
1

Because in context of OLD there are other men who meet those preferences and there's no reason for you to be choosen over them. You might have a chance of course but why should you waste your time to test it? It's better and easier to just look for somebody who doesn't have preferences that you can't meet. And it's very rare when you don't meet just one preference, it's always two or more. Don't go for women who have high chance of rejecting you is one of the first thing you learn when try to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 08:54 PM
1

just because a woman says she prefers tall men, doesn't mean she desires short men less. But your chance of being rejected is very high even if you meet all and every requirement and preference. Something like that makes risk of rejection even higher, at level when there's no point to try. It's just waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 08:44 PM
1

Never ever changed myself for sake of women, they did't deserve efforts like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:04 PM
5

Because it never stated as optional. And if it's optional then why state it in the first place? Entire point there is to filter out men who woman just don't see suitable. And if you're half-decent man then you'll respect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 03:18 PM
4

If woman wants somebody tall and wealthy then why try anything with her in the first place? Of course those might be just preferences and there's a chance that she'll be fine with somebody who doesn't meet those. But why should you waste your time just to test it? There's always somebody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 03:04 PM
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You just have to live in half-normal country.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 12:59 PM
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Well, that woman is just dumb then. If you see that man doesn't want to move to normal relatrionships then it's a failure and you just move on. No hard feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 12:50 PM
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2-3 dates means exclusivity, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 12:49 PM
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Exclusivity is default state of dating, no need to have some sort of "talk" about it. That's how it works for normal people in normal countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 11:53 AM
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No. Situationship is temprary state when you decided if you want to move towards proper relationships or you're going to break up without hard feelings towards each other. In past it was called "casual dating", zoomers just love inventing the wheel.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 11:00 AM
5

Competition is when girl have two or more potential partners and she choose one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:35 PM
4

You can't be at first place all the time, there are always somebody better than you. So you need a woman who needs you, and not your place in some dumb imaginary competition. So there's no need to compete for women with anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:10 PM
7

There are always somebody better. If I had to compete and won then it's only matter of time before somebody better will come. So I won't compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:25 PM
8

They exist to exploit poor guys who have problems with women. Give you nice explaination, switch blame to something that you can't change and change your way of thinking so you won't be successfull. Think about it as some sort of marketing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 09:30 AM
17

15 years ago you weren't in your late 30s. So there are other variables that changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:07 AM
2

They just roll their dice more times. Of course they'll get more success than somebody who don't try anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:17 PM
1

Those traits are common, you just need to go outisde of bars/clubs and other shady places.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:14 AM
4

It isn't hard. Pillers have very specific mindset and their ideas about relationships didn't change since high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:06 PM
1

It would be very rude first time, but second time it's his fault for not breaking up with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:22 PM
10

Women's mood literally getting worse if they don't have sex for a while. Men aren't affacted by that unless they're hyperfocused on being miserable. Of course women need sex more. They just don't need it in same way as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:21 AM
4

That something that I've learned when I was 13 years old in summer camp from older boys. That only way to trully make women to fall in love with you is to make her cum. So being good in bed is a must for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:17 AM
5

I didn't knew that I'm supposed to care about my height (~170cm) until mid 20s. Still find this idea hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:12 AM
6

That time when I asked girl to have sex with me on first date and she just agreed. Up to this moment my attempts to find somebody didn't work at all. The most direct approach worked to my surprise, everything I knew about relationships told me that there's no chance for such direct approach to be successful. But it was successful. So I have to throw away everything I knew about women and that made dealing with them so much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:07 AM
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Good parents should give their sons actual information about relationships and dating to make sure that they won't catch pill nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:09 AM
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Sometimes touching grass not just a good idea, but something that you must do right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 08:07 AM
0

Thing there is that you don't have to have trauma or neurodivergence to not to be normie.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:52 AM
1

No. Just no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:50 AM
2

Humans send more information to each other by using non-verbal communications. Both of you can read body language and see each other reactions. That alone makes it more efficient than any dating app can be. Plus no delays.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:35 PM
1

A lot of men supposed to get correct standards and stop behaving like they're still dumb and horny high school boys. Start with answering the questions "what kind of woman I want to have next to me". And forget that N/10 nonsense of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:44 PM
1

This "lower-inhib men" has a lot of different names, like "wife beater", "serial cheater" and so on. Maybe dumb teenage girls want those men, but I never seen a half-decent woman who would want this kind of man. Introverts in same time are fine. Basically stay away from dumb women who still think they're in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:54 AM
4

Criticized by whom? What happen if you don't know that you're criticized? Will it objectively affect your life in any measurable way? If not then you can just ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:49 AM
4

No idea. I never meet anybody who would enforce those "rules". I think it's just some sort of self-defeating mechanism. Being like you are now is comfortable, doing something new is scary and dangerous, especially if you success.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:44 AM
2

Experience mostly, including few girls dumping me for not sleeping with them on first date. Sample size is small and not statistically significant of course. You look for horny women and you'll find them, not every day and not every week, but they're there. No need to swipe right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:33 AM
3

You underestimate women horniness. Especially if specially look for that kind of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:03 AM
37

There's a big secret: you have no obligations to do anything for others unless you want it or have legal obligations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:38 AM
5

Quality of sex has almost no correlation with experience. Curiosity and initiative is far more important. Problem with virginis is that you have no way to know that before you started to have regular sex. And for women it's very easy to not to know anything about sex and still have it. So you migh expect her to know basic things that any adult supposed to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:07 AM
1

You can have more than one social cirlcle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:55 AM
2

Or you can find nice day, wear nice clothes, go to park and look for cute girl to look at you with interest. Then have sex few hours later. No apps required.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:53 AM
7

US of A isn't the world. And most people don't use apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:51 AM
4

They're shitty women that should be avoided. Just like men who do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 08:14 PM
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Yes. Those signals aren't that hard to read. And there's flirt to check intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:00 PM
3

My experience is opposite. I'm shorter than you and got almost zero dates using apps/sites. But in real life I didn't have problems most times I tried. No idea why.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:38 PM
1

There's a thing called "non-verbal signals" that are critical for attraction. Like how you talk, how you walk, your gestures and so on. Internet just can't transfer them. That's why you should get off the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 11:16 AM
3

Nobody forbid her to want it as long as she wants. You have no obligation to do it. You aren't her servant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:29 AM
1

It's one of those things that you learn trying to figure out how to deal with women. But not by reasons you pointed in your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:27 AM
3

Building your entire life around women sounds dumb. If you see yourself as nothing but talking animal then I'm sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:28 PM
4

No, never. Those tricks are cheap and can't work for any guy who know his worth and not dumb as rock. Tricking somebody into commitment is a very dumb idea by itself, you'll have to live with that person somehow. And it will lead to a lot of pain and troubles in the future. Including waste of time that could be used to find a guy who don't have commitment issues. In same time woman who can do those things aren't a women that decent men want, so of course nobody would want anything serious with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:17 PM
163

World of rich people and gold diggers is very different from world where normal people live.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:24 AM
1

People live to invent hardships. There's a good joke about that, ends with "in a hammock and standing". Technically dating is easy. You spend good time with somebody, show them yourself and if both sides is interested then you'll go on another date. If not then you try it with somebody else. From what I've seen one of the biggest problems is lack of standards, standards being too low and not knowing what you actually want. A lot of people have "external" standards, when people look for traits th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:53 AM
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Online dating is soul crushing for men, and akin to dumpster diving for women. You only do that if you don't have other options or have no problems dealing with trash. As a man you can learn where and how to approach and how to read signals. Then try it in more appropriate places. But I agree that there aren't enough places for people to meet each other. And you can try meeting somebody online without going to dating apps. Like online communities have meetups sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:36 AM
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She must share my interests, be capable of supporting herself and love sex. And I found one many years ago, didn't look at another women since.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:28 PM
1

Reasonable standards if you won't ask for something that you won't ask from yourself. Want somebody rich - then be rich too. Want somebody with nice body then have nice body too. And so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 09:29 AM
0

When woman demand much more from a man than from herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:23 AM
2

You won't have to deal with all bullshit that 20 years old are full of. Nobody start relationships with goal of having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:05 AM
1

You can learn most of it in theory, so if guy don't know it then he's a literal moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:46 AM
5

Would failed relationships in early 20s that didn't go anywhere but lasted for almost a year count as "relationships experience"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:44 AM
7

Attraction is totally random and only thing that somebody have any sort of control is how often you can roll the dice and what kind of people are around you. You can blame shut-in who don't talk to people at all and expect girl fall from the sky. But if you go out and and at least try to talk to people you find suitable then it isn't your fault. It's just bad luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:31 PM
2

Do you find any notable difference between a friend with benefits and a romantic partner in a relationship? No. It's basically the same thing. You just decided to stay with somebody for longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:54 PM
1

You can't read.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:50 PM
2

Agreed. But are you as her partner going to pick up the house work and care for the kids while she takes that time and energy to turn herself on over periods of time? Absolutley yes, for years and years. No effect. That's why I think this "responsive desire" is just a bullshit excuse to be lazy. It's a good lesson for other men - if she isn't all over you and not actively tying to get into you pants from get go then never expect that to change and find somebody who will. And in general - never e…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:42 PM
2

Some women just stay lazy even if you do everything you can possible do to make her life easier and less stressfull.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:40 PM
4

And those things are better than passive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:37 PM
2

She can be perfectly turned on every time, but if she doesn't do anything by herself then there will be all sorts of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:36 PM
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It's just an excuse to be lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 05:52 AM
4

At some point it become soul-crusing at level when you prefer not to have sex with her at all. And then there's a question why should you be with a woman that always need to be turned on and who doesn't do anything by herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 05:00 AM
10

If you do it all the time then there's a question why she's there with you. Does she actually want to be with you or she's here just because it's convinient.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 04:42 AM
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What red pill see as "tradition" is nothing but chimera created from different fantasies about "how things used to be". As an adult doing something arount the house is your obligation no matter if you live alone or not, unless you pay somebody to do it. But I do agree with idea that it's man's responsibility to find women's desire suck. Because you'll stop feel desired and entire relationships will crumble down.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 04:40 AM
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Youtube and instagramm isn't reality. You have no obligation to entertain anybody, attraction isn't rational and it's better to just go with a flow than try to build some strange schemes. Some people that you call "jerks" just know what they want from women and aren't afraid to state it, it's better for you to learn that too.
/r/ExRedPill01/06/24 08:20 PM
1

So, you'll never show that you're happy to see her?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:36 PM
1

You literally can't get close to other person without showing emotions and being vulnerable. So of course you're going to show emotions. And there are a lot of emitions other than "being angry" and "crying".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:50 PM
1

Of course, what else did you expect? Guys who stay on dating apps are fuckboys, incel trash and not well adapted guys. So your actual choice is between those groups. If you don't like those options then you should go outside of those apps and put some efforts. Good men don't fall from the sky, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:15 PM
2

Fuckboys know how to present themselves on dating apps, that's why they're fuckboys. So if you want somebody else then you have to skip guys who are good at presenting themselves. Decent guys will never get enough experience to know how to be presentable on dating apps. They leave them in disgust or find somebody and never return.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 10:21 AM
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She has to find what she can offer than no other woman can, find what kind of men want that and go only for them. "Good locking, smart and funny" isn't that, there are a lot of women who can be described this way. At least that's how it work for men, so it might work for women too. UPD: And commitment-orientired men aren't on the market for long. They find somebody suitable and that's it. They'll be back to dating only if something went really wrong and not for that long.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 09:08 AM
1

If you're getting more from mastrubation then something is very wrong with sex you have. Because those things just can't compare in normal situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:51 PM
1

So you can't say if man make those emotional investments or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:14 PM
1

And if man is emotionally invested from get go?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:50 PM
1

Women didn't choose anybody, they didn't have right to choose. Dating didn't exist until recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:49 PM
2

You open a bit and check reaction. You kind of supposed to learn it when you're a kid, when making new friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:47 PM
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Actually physically unattractive men are rare. You have to be physically ugly to be one. Amd you can't actually judge who's attractive because you aren't a woman. Women see it differently and you as a man have no ability to understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:07 AM
4

Only loser chase women. That's the ultimate truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:44 PM
1

No. Why should they? I never had that kind of relationships so have no idea. I did try and it didn't work. Didn't work. Yes, why waste time on some high school level bullshit. You like her, she likes you, you go to bed and have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:10 AM
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Of course they are. Virgins are PITA, late virgins have problems with understanding what they supposed to do in bed. Had one under condition that she won't get any sort of special treatment. Had to dump her because she couldn't understand that she supposed to do at least something.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:48 AM
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It's better when somebody else took care of her virginity and taught her some basic stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:42 AM
1

People say a lot of dumb and rude things in internet, that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:48 AM
1

Most male virgins don't know wtf they're doing their first time around. Where the hell are they going to get those skills from, osmosis? Read a book or something. It isn't some sort of forbidden knowledge. And actually pay attention to a person you have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:30 AM
1

Why should I be a cartoonish panicking virgin in the first place? You have clear idea what you're doing at least in theory and it isn't something complicated. You aren't pushed by peer pressure into doing something that you don't actually want or afraid of doing. So why should you panic?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:24 AM
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I didn't care about it that much, not a person who build his entire life around women. Everybody who somehow managed to learn that I was a virgin until my late 20s were genuinely surprised. Girl I lost it with never knew that she's my first and I didn't see it as something special. Experience was more or less what I expected it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:26 PM
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Experience in sex is overrated. Idea of "first time" as something super-special is overrated even more. Especially for men. Your attitude, desire to make her feel good, willingness to pay attention and some theoretical knoweldge is far more important and enough to be good at it from get go. You have to be unfeeling golem, have totally wrong ideas about sex, not be ready for it or face horrible unfeeling woman for things to go bad. Those potential problem you should be focus on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:58 PM
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Isn't that some sort of common knowledge? That party girls want to party and that you should go for kind of woman that's right for you? And being "right woman" have nothing to do with being hot. Hard part is to know what kind of women are right for you and where to find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:27 PM
2

Those men know their value and a lot of them are taken earlier by those who are ready to take the risk. Risk isn't that big, hard-working student with clear life goals he works towards has a good chance to be more successfull than most men. So those women have to deal with bigger competition and their chances to get "complete package" are lower. I assume that those women who want "complete package" just want easy life at somebody's expense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:11 PM
2

Smart enough women can see a potential and might try to "lock down" a guy before he got a lot of options. It's kind of late to try to get a guy when you're just one of of many for him. Of course there's a risk that potential will never be realized.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:13 PM
2

Those "high-value men" aren't idiots, they'll see it. But there's no need to play any sort of game. Having somebody who support you and add something to your life is what most men want in one form or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:05 PM
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It's simplification but it isn't "a hack". Being nice, supportive, pleasant and adding value to somebody's live is a good idea by itself. She just have to be sure that it's appriciated and not taken for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:40 PM
1

Nothing. Why should I feel anything? I do the same sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:45 PM
1

Yes, because I can trust myself not to lose my head with new sexual partner and keep my feelings under rational control. So my copy would be the same. That's why we would stay as FWB and not in proper relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:26 PM
1

Yes. Knowing myself I wouldn't have problem with that if my partner is my own copy. It's insanely messy with different person, so monogamy is just easier to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:12 PM
1

Don't think so. It would create problems for both of us to have sex with somebody else time to time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:06 PM
1

For those people "genes" always work in way they beliefes tell them to work by some reason they can't prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:49 PM
4

We wouldn't be in relationships. We would be FWB who play games togheter and write code for some obscure linux programms.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:46 PM
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There's no way to know if man is late bloomer or not. Especially if it become a stigma. And good luck with finding man capable of supporting a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:27 PM
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Why should man with things to do waste his limited time on woman who doesn't want to sleep with him if he can do something more interesting? I had very shitty experience with being this "boyfriend material" at some point and wasted about year of my life on nothing. No interest in repeating that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:40 PM
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For me and for a lot of men it's an insult. If woman fancy me then she'll sleep with me as soon as she can. If she doesn't want to do that then she isn't interested and not worth my time. Eveyrhting else is just some sort of gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:30 PM
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Because she might decide that she's "proper woman" now and those things aren't something that proper women do. That's one of the last thing you want as a man. On top of that "boyfriend/husband material" supposed to be very patient and be ready to wait for her, wasting time on pointless dates that aren't going anywhere. Only dumb or undesirable men wait. So when she calls you "boyfriend/husband material" she calls you dumb or undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:25 PM
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Like 2-3 dates top. If girl doesn't want to jump in your bed after that then she's a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:14 PM
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Because you won't get good sex. Would girl go crazy in bed with her future husband? Of course not. So being "boyfriend material" means getting shit deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:11 PM
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You assume that serious guys have no interest in sex and ready to waste their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:08 PM
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Nobody forces good men to wait. She might think whatever she wants, you have your own will.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:06 PM
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In most cases only advice that you actually need is "try to find a way to talk to as many women as you can" to roll the dice as may times as you can. All other advices can help you to change what kind of women you can find. Like if you want successful women then you should be successfull too. It won't help you if you can't find anybody at all because there are other problems that can't be fixed by just lifting weights.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:28 AM
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Or you can just start actualy thnking and stop listening to nonsense after getting idea that this list can easily be infinite. And observing that all sorts of guys have girlfriends, even skinny, poor, rich, nerdy, introverted, extraverted, talkative, quiet et cetera. Those advices are just busywork, things to do instead doing what actuall matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:23 AM
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Image of so called "chad" is centered around very specific traits that only exist in small part of the world. If women were universdally attracted to those traits then all nations in the world would look more or less in same way or just die out. It didn't happen. Which means idea of "chad" is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:45 PM
8

There's no way to force other men to behave in certain way, especially when you can't hit them in face. So best solution for half-decent man is to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:35 PM
1

"Meet in internet" doesn't mean "used OLD".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:31 PM
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Of course they do. No half-decent man wants to deal with soul-crushing swiping and competin with all sorts of trash. Women can't find anything but trash and have no reason to stay there too. That's a result of short-term desire to make all money in the world by monetizing desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:13 PM
1

Option "B" no questions. Have no interest in dealing with a princess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:03 PM
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Way to create insecurity to monetize and manipulate. But most of them are just simple cretins.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:01 PM
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You value women far more than they deserve.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/24 08:11 AM
1

It's useless if you have no actual interests in music and performing. Doing anything as a mean to get women won't lead anywhere and you'll feel pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 06:28 AM
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A lot. Problem is inability to notice and use those opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:47 PM
2

Woman of course. Can't have actual connections with people without being vulnerable. Of course you don't dump all your emotional stuff on her in one go, you start with something small and check how it goes. But if she decide to use it against me then she'll be thrown away and forgotten instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:37 PM
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I'd stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:23 PM
1

Anything can be. So yes, absolutely. Otheres can't force you to stay in relationships that you don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:42 AM
1

Fairy tales are for kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 04:34 AM
1

It happens. You might find something in common and get attracted later.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 05:28 PM
6

Do both have to like video games and anime in order to have a fulfilling relationship? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:38 PM
2

Focusing too much on finding relationships makes you desperate and unattractive. Not caring about relationships and be fine being alone allows you to be yourself without worrying if she likes you or not. And that lead to confidence.
/r/ExRedPill18/05/24 05:13 PM
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To achieve what he have now he had to sacrifice relationships. To get all of that at age 24 you have to work really hard, so you won't have time for anything else. Of course he has no idea how to deal with women. Some women have wrong idea that if man is successful then he'll successful with women too. Dealing with women is a skill that you need to learn, it won't be installed into your brain once you reach some level of income. I was this "Jake" type at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:24 AM
1

Second None First None Second
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:17 AM
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You can be canceled for transphobia now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:15 AM
8

Dating means exclusivity by default. It's just americans inventing some new kind of bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:42 AM
2

If you're more desirable then you won't be her "backup plan". There's no reason for a man to stay somebody's "backup plan" either. If you're attractive then there's no reason for you to wait for that one woman when you can go and get somebody else without waiting. And if woman can easily jump to somebody's more desirable then it's only a matter of time before she'll do that with you too. You don't want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:15 AM
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By not thinking about it. Think about anything else. You lose confidence when you think something like "how she's going react on this or that" or "what should I say to keep her interested".
/r/ExRedPill16/05/24 05:51 PM
2

It will be too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 05:39 PM
0

There aren't that many people who have no chances. It's usually some problems and/or mindset that prevents that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 05:34 PM
3

Artificial womb have one big problem: who is going to pay for raising kids? Governments/corporations aren't willing to pay people just part of those expenses, they won't pay full price.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 05:33 PM
1

It will be worse. If you got used to AI then it will be very hard for you to deal with real woman. On top of other problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 05:31 PM
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Statements have any value only if they lead to real life decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 07:09 PM
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But you can't change your brain chemistry and become extroverted. Don't equate introversion with social anxiety, a lot of people make this mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 05:12 PM
3

USSR had shitty service, you couldn't get anything fixed unless you do it yourself or know people who can do it for a price. So ability to fix things in house became a cultural norm of sorts. Source: I'm Russian.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:03 PM
3

PUA, up to some extent. Was really useful, I had no idea how to approach women at all. But I did used some of PUA stuff and it was actually useful. Gave me starting point. Without that I'd be like blind kitten hitting every possible corner for very long time. Didn't went into "game" and "lifestyle" stuff because idea to rebuilding your entire life around attracting women is too dumb for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 02:00 AM
3

Won't be able to stay loyal at least. But if she fine with that then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 07:21 PM
3

Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 05:28 PM
2

It's dumb. No half-decent man will tolerate sexless relationships in the first place. You won't have any idea what you actually want until is too late. And you might find yourself with somebody who isn't really compatible with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:52 AM
1

Woman of course. In worst case I can deal with her. In best we can cooperate. Those things are basic game theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 05:10 PM
2

To be good in bed woman need curiosity, initiative and enthusiasm. Any amount experience is useless without those traits. Opposite is true. If woman have that those traits then her experience doesn't matter that much, she'll be better than most in no time.
/r/ExRedPill11/05/24 09:06 AM
0

Red pill purpose is to make money from your misery by selling you false solutions. And nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 01:26 PM
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Being in control of emotions doesn't mean not having them or not showing any of them. Controlling your emotions means that you can't let them to affect your decisions. So you won't do dumb shit only because woman shown you some attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:31 AM
3

You can only blame yourself for things that you have control over. And it isn't a reason not to try and change your luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:27 AM
1

You have no way to know that. Any sane late virgin is going to hide that. And you'll never know unless guy is an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:24 AM
1

Like why not? You don't know how successful you can be unless you actually try.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:17 AM
3

It is. There are a lot of women who have no problems with casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 07:16 AM
2

Then you don't have anybody to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:54 AM
2

And just give up and stay single. Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 01:46 PM
0

Tell that when you have 10th first date this month.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:30 PM
7

Do you want a family with a woman that behave like shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:29 PM
35

No. Just stop tolerating shitty women. Being single is better than be in bad relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:24 PM
6

Except that there's no way to check it. I lost my virginity in late 20s and she would reject me if she knew that it was first time for me. She didn't ask and everything went well because it isn't a rocket science. Dating and relationships are the same. Guy who went of few dates might just tell that his experience wasn't that good and there's no way to check it because it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:49 AM
3

Back in the days I told women that I lack experience, just to be honest with her. It didn't go well for me. First just instantly left. That was my first ever date. Second just dragged "relationships" without getting anywhere until I confronted her about that and we broke up. I wish I did that earlier. So of course I just stopped doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:35 AM
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Women are insanely lazy when it comes to relationships. Writing at least "Hi!" isn't hard. They aren't even asked to start conversation with something more interesting like men. And yet they can't do even that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 10:15 AM
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I'd ignore all unoriginal messages. Like if woman is interested in me then she can write something original. At least read my profile and start with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:35 AM
2

I expect women there to complain about how unoriginal first messages from men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:32 AM
1

That looks matter the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:16 PM
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Idea is horrible because it add too much pressure on guys on top of all shit you have to deal with. And I'd just lie and there's no way to check if what I said is true or not. Don't bother to answer because you're blocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:14 PM
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I won't post photos in internet of course. But when woman is nice, have same interests as you and like sex then it doesn't really matter if she wear makeup or not. Your position is far too close to red pill idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:04 PM
2

No. You aren't a kid to play stupid games like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 03:55 PM
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About two weeks. Would be second date but there were some circumstances that prevented that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:28 AM
1

Nobody forces woman to wear an expensive makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:25 AM
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Nothing really depends on your deliberate actions, unless you're doing something actually stupid like self-sabotage. So you should just relax and enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:40 PM
1

I wouldn't be mad. But I'd look for another woman. You had bad experience, but we just meet, I don't know you yet and have no reasons to care. It's better not to invest my time and just find somebody without such issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:36 PM
5

Worst thing is once you found yourself in good position in life and decided to finally have some fun - nobody want to do that anymore. And you missed everything.
/r/ExRedPill04/05/24 07:10 PM
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Men will learn to think for themselves and not expect somebody else to do that for them. Most of those problems only exist because a lot of men just mindlessly follow instructions "how things should be". And it doesn't work of course. If you allow other to think for you they'll do it in their interests, not in yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:58 PM
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Any opinion that uses term "SMV" in not ironical way is wrong by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:43 PM
1

Their data set is biased. Only men who actively use dating apps are included. And those dating apps have different popularity in different countries, if present at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:44 AM
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No, I never had a "type". I don't even understand what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:41 AM
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ChatGPT is just an electric parrot. Parrots just say words that they learned to speak without any idea what they mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:38 AM
2

There are only so many asexual people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:41 PM
1

There's no obligation, but if my wife decided that she won't have sex with me out of nowhere then she'll find herself divorced sooner than later.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:41 PM
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With a man. It's possible to do more work and there won't be some dumb drama out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:36 PM
0

There's no "gender war". It just some american bullshit. By some reasons they love to split into teams by dumbest reasons possible and then throw shit to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:35 PM
0

Yes, I'd love that. It's tiring to be smartest person in the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:41 AM
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Man who isn't needy just won't date for too long because dating is just too annoying to be bothered with. And combined with confidence he'll be direct about what he needs and won't waste his time on courting anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:29 PM
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Those "strong men" die first. Artillery shell doesn't care how strong you are. But those who didn't went to a frontline by various reasons get everything. Basically red pill men are idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:20 PM
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It's easier and give you a reason for self-pity. Doing something is hard amd you can be rejected. Or worse - you might be successful and then all time you spend on self-pity will be wasted on nothing. And then it will change your life too. Nobody like changes. And I have theory that a lot of those people don't actually want relationships. But by society standards they supposed be in relationships so they look for external reason why they can't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:25 PM
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She can want whatever she wants. But that make her pool of potential partner smaller and smaller. In same time men don't have such problem, so if you're making more money then your pool of potential partners become bigger. Now you have to calculate what happens to chances for a guy from your pool to choose you and not somebody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:05 AM
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Of course I'll chose a man. He has same goal as me - to spend 48 hours in the woods. So we can work together. Bear is a big dangerous animal that will kill and eat you if it decide that you're a threat or a good snack. And you can't do anything against it, it much stronger and can outrun you with ease.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:55 AM
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It might grow. Or not. So why take chances? You aren't immortal being, you only have so much time. Unless there's already other person around and attraction is already there and growing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 02:53 AM
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ultimately the only thing that actually matters is how attractive a woman is? If you're 13 years old boy who never touched a women then yes. You'll get used to her look faster than you can imagine. After that you have to deal with actually important things like personality. I see red pillers as 13 years old boys who never grew up btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:19 AM
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Idea of romantic relationships is relatively new and didn't exist 500 years ago. There used to be difference between family and sex. You had a family that is more business-like, and somebody you have sex with. And peasants just didn't give a fuck, a lot of traditions exist around sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:02 PM
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But you might not be into women of that type.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 12:30 PM
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Unless you don't have social circle that is big enough. Then you have to go and deliberately look for somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 12:23 PM
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Those subreddits are shit, they have nothing to do with real world, just don't read them.
/r/ExRedPill21/04/24 11:16 AM
0

$100 bill is liked by everybody in the world. Literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:59 AM
0

But dating is easy if you only go for women who are into you and just ignore/dump everybody else as soon as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:08 AM
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Unless this "judgement" have any sort of impact on your life it can and must be ignored. You aren't $100 bill to be liked by everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:59 AM
3

They might never heard anything about things like "league".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 02:00 AM
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Some men don't have anything to do with their time and can't think for themselves. Never had problems with being alone for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:05 PM
2

Absolutely no. You want a partner, not a couch.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:12 AM
4

If you need to wait for sex more than you comfortable with then girl isn't compatible with you or she's playing dumb games. In both cases best solution is to look for somebody else. Incompatibility is bad and playing dumb games from get go is even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 02:02 AM
2

Only 3 and 4 are somewhat necessary. And how people who never heard about any sort of "maxxing" find dates then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 01:59 AM
3

Mental issues and mental illnesses are different things. If you have cognitive distortions like "black pill" then you'll have big problems with women. But it isn't an illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 04:20 PM
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Well, they can just stay single then. And you as a man can just stop worrying about something that you can't get and just focus on your own life. And then wait until those women came to you because they don't want to stay single forever. Or you can go for different women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 04:15 PM
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Putting too much efforts into dating makes you desperate. Women are nice bonus to your life, not a goal. So if woman tell you something about "low effort" then it's a sign that she isn't that interested in you. Good relationships don't need serious efforts because both sides are interested and put their share of efforts. So right answer to something like that is something like "you can find somebody else then". In general that kind of women just want a free ride, free dinner, free clown and be p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 06:47 AM
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But you care. So you use every tool you can find. You don't need to go to "seminars" because those are obvious scams. All actually useful stuff from PUA is freely available. You take it and go your way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 04:57 PM
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Not gen-z, but answer is "yes". If you like each other then you'll have sex at some point. So why waste time on something dumb, you don't have too much of it. And that's how it usually worked for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:30 AM
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Can't deny that. But what if you in remaining part and have absolutely no idea how to "go talk to girls" in your early 20s? Instead of trial and error just to figure out absolute basics it's better when you can go and read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:12 PM
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Pickup had to be used as starting point. You have very little idea how to deal with girls, you read how to approach them, how to avoid bumping in some dumb corners. Then you try it, most likely fail but start getting your own experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:43 PM
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I don't see what's wrong in desire to get laid. No need to add some sort of lifestyle bullshit on top of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:34 PM
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Pickup was good if you won't go into that "lifestyle" bullshit. And only take practical parts about how to talk to girls, go on dates and get laid. Things that you missed back in high school or college.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:00 PM
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Yes. Like you still didn't fix your fear of initimacy. How do you expect relationships to work at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:10 AM
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Yes. You'll learn what's out there and what you actually want. So you'll be able to make right choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:22 AM
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But women might show interest in you, so you know that you're interested to them. You might try dating and didn't find it too hard. So you have clear idea that you have options or can create them at will.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:11 AM
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When you can find a girlfriend or have options right now but deliberately not doing anything with that. Because you don't want to have relationships at this moment of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:53 AM
1

And best way to improve your luck is to roll your dice again and again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 05:14 PM
3

Who checks if that information is true or false? And men's group like that will be banned in few hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:14 PM
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Problem with group like that is that information isn't validated. So anybody can just write any bullshit by any reason. And it might harm people who did nothing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:04 PM
2

It's insanely dumb idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:58 PM
4

If TRP was right then most people would be single. They aren't single, so TRP is wrong. If you aren't repulsive or dangerous and somewhat social then your chances are good enough. Problem might be self-defeating attitude that lead to self-sabotage.
/r/ExRedPill10/04/24 06:33 AM
1

There's no overpopulation, there's overconsumption in few countries in first world. That the problem you have to solve.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:16 AM
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If all woman you dealt with were toxic then toxicity become a norm and it's hard to believe that there are other women around. You can only choose between what's available for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 05:01 PM
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It won't be "like Tinder" because in real life your choice is limited by people who are around you. And you can see more traits in real life than in internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:53 PM
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They are different. Like women often don't like idea having sex for sake of having sex. Women say "he just want sex" like it's something bad. And this way of thinking is completely alien for me. I understand that women think this way. But it's impossible for me to understand reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:37 AM
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Absolutely no. Most information that you can find is bullshit, so extensive research based on bullshit will create even more bullshit. You have to go and check your ideas in real world. I'd say that doing pure theoretical research is bad idea because it lead to failure. It's better idea to go out, check how it works and then do research based on your own experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:32 AM
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But to have said experience you have to go and get it. But this idea tell you that you should avoid doing anything until specific age. So you won't have any experience if you follow this idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 06:29 AM
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So, somebody who sit in his house without going anywhere until 30 will be smarter and more experienced than somebody who is 20 years old but tried a lot of things in life. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:37 PM
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Older people have same problems. There's no direct correlation. It's about life experience, not age. You can't get said experience unless you go and get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:34 PM
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This idea has a few more problems: Development isn't binary. You won't just switch from one state to another on your 25th birthday. Actual development can only happen if you can test your ideas in real world. You go out, you try to do something and you fail or success. Then you can change something in your behavior. You might find that your actions are seen as creepy, do something about that and try again. Development means ability to change. If your brain actually stops developing in 25 then yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 09:43 AM
2

It's exciting until he hits you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:00 AM
2

Aggressive people are scary and unpredictable. Nobody want to deal with them unless it's absolutely necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:34 AM
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But they don't. It's just some strange ideas that gymbros and other pillers invented to be busy instead of learn how to be actually nice and assertive without being aggressive. And they added this "evolutionary psychology" on top of that, that always give answers you want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:08 AM
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Not being seen as a threat is absolutely basic thing in any communication, precondition to have said communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 06:03 AM
1

I've played this "just wait for shit" game once, not interested in wasting months of my time ever again. If she won't sleep with me after 3 dates then reasons aren't my problems or concerns. If girl likes you then she will sleep with you as soon as possible. It's a lesson that I've learned in hard way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 02:18 AM
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And decent man don't want submissive partner because he already have one person to think for.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:03 PM
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Not being a doormat and not play dumb childish games are good in same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:02 PM
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I don't talk to AI.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:55 PM
5

"3 date rule" is a good example. Following it guarantee that you won't waste too much time on woman that doesn't even want to sleep with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:46 AM
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Everywhere. If you're deliberately looking for somebody then your chance to find one of those women is very high. But there are a lot of good filters against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:49 AM
1

Maybe it's a way for single women to find a man? You don't need to behave this way if you already have somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:07 AM
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They have chance only with asexual woman or with woman with really low libido. Asexuals don't have ability to understand importance of sex and that it isn't about putting penis in vagina and getting pleasant feeling from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:59 AM
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I wouldn't be chosen, I'm sure of it. I was too focused on getting myself into relatively good place in life in my early 20s just to find that women literally stand up and leave when they discover that I have zero romantic experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 04:28 AM
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She might decided to "talk to HR" in case if you misinterpret something and don't have absolute certainty. That might be catastrophic for you and your future. Risks like that just aren't acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:38 PM
2

But even then you don't know possible reaction. Like you might interpret everything in totally wrong way, which happen all the time. And risk is just too high to go for anything but absolute certainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:04 PM
2

But you don't control how other person reacts. And that reaction might not what you expect and it might cost you a career. So you won't do that no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:42 PM
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But there's a problem: most new people you will ever meet in your life will be at your work. And you spend most of your "good" time there. So removing your work from places to find potential mate is pure and self-defeating insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:20 PM
1

Or they have problems with their head that lead them to not being able to actually keep relationships. Like they avoid everybody who show actual interest in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 03:42 PM
3

It's a dumb idea. But motivation here is obvious. If men focus on "being a provider" then they won't learn how to deal with women. And then they won't pay to "relationships experts". It's same shit as red pill: convince people that there's a problem and then sell solution that doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 07:14 AM
3

Non-existing fantasy. "Traditional woman" never existed in real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 07:08 AM
1

Friendzone is mutual. Girl want you to be in friendzone and you agree to stay there. Because there's no way for her to prevent you from going for another woman or force you to stay in her friendzone. Women don't have such power. So friendzone isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 06:10 PM
3

Why should anybody in his right mind waste time on "high maintenance gf" in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 06:04 PM
2

Language models can't simulate that. Only thing they do is to generate next word for given text based on statistics from giant training set. They don't have their own will. But actual people do. And if you won't learn that then any contact with real girl will lead to disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:59 AM
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I didn't, not interested in parrots, especially electric ones. Problem with "AI girlfriend" is that it will tolerate anything and doesn't have it's own will and can't reject you no matter what. So you'll learn that you can do and say any sort of shit and it will be tolerated. But real person won't behave like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 08:05 PM
1

If girl is testing you then it's a shitgirl and you should stay away from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:31 PM
0

No, if you got rejected as early as possible. You don't know her and didn't spend any time with her, she have no interest in you, so you just move on. No time for hard feeling to form, you'll forget about her few hours later. Girl always know is she's interested in you after first few seconds and you can't change it. So no reason to waste time,.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:53 PM
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Using AI for practice is worst possible idea. AI doesn't have a lot of important traits and using skills trained on AI will lead to guaranteed fail with real woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:43 PM
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Deliberately going for "practice girlfriend" is a bad idea on many levels. But your first relationships have a really big chance to fail because you have no idea what you want or what you're doing. So you can see it as "practice" and not take it too serious. In general it's a good idea not to take relationships too serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:39 PM
2

But I do, for almost 10 years at this point. So this approach works perfectly and filter out every girl who isn't good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:08 PM
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There's no point to go after women who aren't into you. And if she won't react in positive way on your advances from get go then she isn't into you and doing anything else with her is just waste of time, And I'd teach not to waste your time on people who aren't into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:23 AM
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Don't get rejected by single girls 5 times, be rejected by 5 different girls before you get to know them. It will be more like "well, your loss" and no hard feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:14 AM
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But are those women put similar efforts into their relationships or they just enjoy the ride? I was there once, decided that putting efforts into relationships is just too dumb. Relationships either work with both sides doing something or it just not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:52 AM
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There are other things to do. If "no means no" then you can't actually "pursue" anybody. And all of that is a good thing. Most women just aren't worth an effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:48 AM
1

Then you just need to understand your advantages and refuse to give them up. Then can't force you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:13 AM
1

I can't see anything wrong here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:11 AM
3

You need somebody to open up to. And that's the hard part. Being rejected after opening up is painful, being rejected by somebody who you didn't even consider in serious way is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:10 AM
0

How can you not take rejection to personally? It's relatively easy. You just don't take woman seriosly until you got her in bed. You go on the date - you focus is to have fun by yourself and woman here is just to accompany you. Just don't get too involved until you got what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:25 AM
2

Those women not kind of women you want to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:06 AM
1

No. But you can ask yourself 'what's here for me" in any other situation. Just to find that there's a lot of bullshit hidden in so called "common sense".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:26 AM
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Why should I provide for somebody in the first place? It's something that is reserved for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:23 AM
0

You can't find right person from get go. So it's good to try a few relationships just to find what you want. And it's better to keep it casual for a while. And sex is just sex, it isn't something special.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:21 AM
2

No. You can "fix yourself" for your entire life, there are always something that worth fixing or changing. You need to fix some big problems that might make you repulsive but beyond that you'll just waste your life away.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:48 PM
1

I don't know, I think it depends on a man. I wanted somebody who will share my interests as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:31 AM
1

You still can use your own brain and not just copy others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:28 AM
11

Nobody forces you to believe that your self-worth depends on female attention. You have your own brain and you must use it. If you don't then you're just mindless robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:14 PM
11

It assumes that men have no their own will, can't think for themselves and just do what they told to do, like mindless robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:39 PM
11

And if they don't have sex then what? They just suddenly die at some point? Or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:36 PM
4

You can just not care about validation from women and only go for women who like you. So you won't need to "work hard" to get validation from women or to get sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 02:56 PM
5

Evaluated by whom? And how this "evaluation" affect somebody's life?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 02:49 PM
12

I always thought that it's obvious. Woman is just a nice bonus to your life, and not somebody who you can't live without. And statistically speaking it's hard to stay single for your entire life, your chance to find somebody is very high.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 02:48 PM
2

It's obvious but not every man understand that yet. And that mean women have to provide something real, and not just herself. And to get committed relationships women have to provide something that man actually need and can't get anywhere else. And not be a burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 02:44 PM
1

No. If you do that then you're in bad position in life and your life most likely sucks. You should find self-esteem and emotional state from other sources. And women are nice bonus, something that nice to have. But I assume all sorts of pill men do exactly that and that's one of the sources of their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 04:13 PM
3

That's default. There are a lot of other things on top of that.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/24 03:56 PM
3

I'd say that being more social, somewhat nice and slightly assertive is often enough to get at least sex. In terms of social skills bar is slightly above "don't be repulsive and say something nice".
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 05:06 PM
5

I'd say that some people have negative social skills, not just bad. Basically "social skills" aren't "skill" in RPG meaning, not some one-dimensional number that you can train or compare. Bad social skills usually means that you might be very far from perfect in social situations but at least your behavior isn't repulsive.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 04:52 PM
0

You usually go with your life and find other people. Almost all kids do dumb shit when they're 15 years old. If there are people who still bring all of that then it's better to just cut them from your life.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 09:43 AM
2

Most people don't have great social skills, even normies. It's usually shit in head that prevents incels from getting better.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 09:38 AM
1

You can "close" the problem of having a partner and focus on other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:06 PM
2

I never said that you supposed to dump that girl. There was a point when I meet a girl, tried to seduce her, got rejected and we just stayed as friends for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:35 PM
1

Point there is that this system is incredibly dumb and you shouldn't think about it in any serious way. And especially use it to make decisions of any sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:46 PM
5

But you can just go and try your luck with somebody else. Being in friendzone is always your own choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:37 PM
1

Nobody can friendzone anybody You stay with somebody who you have no chances with by your own will. You can just leave at any point. Or you might start going for somebody else, nobody can punish you for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:23 PM
3

Normal people see this entire system as something hilariously dumb. Of course you have to see yourself as 10/10 no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:18 PM
1

Those are precondition to have actual relationships and not some sort of show.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 02:04 AM
10

Back when I was single my problem was to meet new people and find somebody to date. I was lucky to get more than 2 first dates per year. But once I managed to get a girl on more than two dates then it usually became smooth sailing with no problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:19 AM
1

They don't care about being sexually attractive to them and don't think if what they say or do ruin their chances. You should learn that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 05:19 PM
-1

Being an introvert isn't an excuse for being rude. And just leaving without saying a word is rude as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:29 PM
1

Yes. Marriage isn't something special. You find a nice girl, date her for a few years and if everything is fine then you get married because why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:54 AM
1

You assume that those people want to discover the truth. Problem here is that they already know what they think "truth" is. And they use statistics to prove that they're right. Anything that prove them wrong is ignored and discarded. They have no interest in actual understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:16 PM
6

Those crimes are underreported.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:13 PM
-6

Loud cretins in internet aren't a "lot of straight men". It's just small group of loud cretins in internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 07:25 PM
1

You should have some sort of legitimate reason to be there. If you just go there with a goal to find a girl then it feels kind of desperate. I'm totally fine with going for students of course, just not on campus. Those girls go to different places where you can catch them.,
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:15 PM
0

You can fix your social awkwardness if you go out and try to communicate with people. You can train your social skills just like anything else. But at least this post recognize that more than one type of attractiveness exist, and that's a progress. And I've never seen anybody in real life who would say that "getting laid" is equal to "being a good person", there's no connection there. You can be a bad person and have lovable personality and that happen often.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 02:38 AM
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Nobody forces you to deal with that kind of women. There's no some sort of exam that checks your confidence and social skills and then give you some sort of certificate that allows you to date. You need just enough social skills to meet somebody suitable and not being repulsive. And just enough confidence to ask her out and start going on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 02:07 AM
1

I didn't actually want one until my late 20s. But I wanted to check what dating, relationships and sex are. And dating somebody just for sex is fine for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:14 PM
1

Using steroids just because you want it might be very dangerous. And it won't help because your problems are in your head. Even if you "fix" your height then you'll just find something else to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:12 PM
-1

But red pill tell you to do exactly the same things as any outer source, at least initially. Like make yourself presentable, fix your own life ("clear your room"), don't put women on pedestal, find some source to boost your confidence ("go to gym"). Red pill use different wording but ideas are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:42 PM
3

It's bullshit. I don't even remember her name or face at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:32 PM
-4

That's the problem. It might give you some confidence boost and it will lead to success with women. But there are other ways to get same results. Then red pill will feed you a lot of self-defeating bullshit that will wreck your life. And you'll eat it no question asked. So red pill might be useful if you know where to quit. Just like PUA back in the days.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:08 PM
1

But why should anybody prefer girl who looks better to girl who fucks better?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 12:16 PM
5

Idea that supermodels have some sort of special value is incredibly childish for me. I understand desire of having good sex, but there's no connection between how good girl looks and how good she's in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:56 AM
-2

Problem with "red pill" is that it doesn't work for anybody. But give you a lot of busywork to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:51 AM
2

Until my 20s I just never thought about that. For me it was natural that if spend some time with people then some of them might like me and we can become friends. Most people were indifferent, but it was fine, you can't be friends with everybody. But with girls you have to do that deliberately and that's very different thing. I had no idea what makes people like me, what I supposed to do to be liked, what should I talk about and so on. It was like riding a bicycle - you know how to do that, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:36 PM
3

It might be obvious if you didn't skip some part of your growth as a teen by some reason. If you skipped that then you have to learn all of that by trial and error later. And it's really easy to skip that if you focused on something else in your teen years as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 06:20 PM
0

Nobody care about social network crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:00 PM
4

Too bad then, but it doesn't change anything. There are some things that she cannot provide too. People aren't perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:57 PM
1

Internet isn't a real world and you shouldn't take anything there seriously. "Situationship" is when you have casual sex and check if it start going anywhere, not about having casual sex for infinite time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:40 PM
6

Not regularly but sometimes and I know that. I feel nothing. On top of that I would never check her search history just because I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:08 AM
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You can prevent STDs if you aren't dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:18 AM
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Never seen a women like that. I think she might be upset if you're too much into porn, at level when you start to ignore her or it start to affect your relationships. But porn isn't real and, women know that and they're chill about that. It's just a thing that men do sometimes. Being mad about pron is same as being mad about "body count", nobody actually care.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:11 AM
2

No, I don't remember anything like that. Worst thing that happened is when my classmate back in middle school asked me to have sex with her and I refused. She was pissed off and said something rude that I can't even remember but that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:32 AM
2

People just want to create problems for themselves by some reasons. Or it's just another form of self-sabotage. You might not actually want relationships, but told that you have to have one. Best way to avoid that is to create or invent some unsolvable problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:49 AM
2

Why do you assume that being late bloomer and lack of social skills have connection?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:18 PM
2

Getting with wrong woman and realize that when it's too late is an ultimate loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:16 PM
1

Dating and relationship have very low skill floor, so you can catch up very fast. And if relationships fail then you'll get at least some experience out of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:15 PM
1

You don't approach them on street. But in any other situation you at least can see her reaction directly. And all non-verbal stuff doesn't work online works just fine in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:09 PM
2

Those ratings are always subjective. No matter what you do there's no way to have any form of objectivity. And such rating will be irrelevant anyway, other people will see you in their own subjective way. That makes any ratings like that pointless waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 02:28 AM
0

Long time ago one really smart dude explained me that such behavior means being like shit in the hole, which doesn't sink but doesn't pop up either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 02:21 AM
3

From my experience being direct lead to better results in general. I just hate uncertainty, subtlety and doubt and prefer to go all in. There are risks, but your own inability to decide and act will harm you more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:02 PM
1

There's no way for anybody to know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:29 PM
2

No. You do it early and directly. Or you start with flirting and check if there's response. Then ask her directly if response is positive. Women usually don't like when men behave in subtle way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:21 PM
1

Forget existence of this dumb word.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:16 PM
6

Watch less dumb videos on tiktok. Those videos created in the way to induce rage and engagement and have nothing to do with real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:16 PM
5

I don't know about US, but where I live dating means exclusivity, you don't need to ask for it. Idea that it should be stated is strange for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:15 AM
3

To be attractive for high school girls you just need to behave slightly above your age, don't fuck around like mindless chimp and have some clear life goals that you work towards. Same things that makes older guys more attractive for them. It's nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:44 AM
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I kind of have zero interest in becoming "creator", it's a very different skillset and I have better use of my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:12 PM
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Did you have at least one successful relationship? Because you sounds like a dumb teeneager who only see women as sex objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:06 PM
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I have no interest in becoming like that lobotomized cretin on youtube.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:02 PM
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Your idea of attraction is kind of strange. I hope you aren't one of those idiots with their ranking systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:56 PM
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It isn't paranoia, it's literally very basics of using internet. Internet has nothing in common with real life, everything you post there will be saved forever. And paranoia start when you start using dynamic proxy chains and immutable OS that keep everything in RAM. And I don't really see a reason to have a "brand", sounds like annoyance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:51 PM
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But what if I'm not interested in women who are into social network shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:45 PM
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Publishing your face and any real information about yourself in the internet is an incredibly dumb idea that will bite you in the ass in the worst time possible. You social network accounts should be as sterile and basic as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:38 PM
3

I had my first ever date at age of 23 and that was total failure. Just like bunch of other attempts. Can't deny that I had some attention from girls back in school, but it doesn't count and I've seen it as annoyance. All of that while being shortest and weakest guy in class. And even now I barely reach 170cm. Still managed to find my own way there. Could describe myself as "blue pilled" but I just can't take this "pill" idea seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:32 PM
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I have github account. It should be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:25 PM
2

They just try, do something and then learn from their own experience. Then try again. And not from some dumb podcasts or equally dumb theories supported by biased statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:21 PM
4

You don't need to become "socially extroverted" to go outside. OP assume that introversion and social anxiety are the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:36 PM
2

Being an introverted man can't prevent you from approaching women. Don't confuse introversion with social anxiety. Those are different things. Introversion create some extra obstacles like small social circle, but it can't prevent you from finding somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:30 PM
11

Absolutely yes. Idea that men are some sort of superhumans that can just "man up" trough everything is false. Idea that if you're successful in one field then it will give you confidence when you deal with women is false too. Same with strange idea than men are born with understanding of women, I personally seen women who were surprised that you have to learn that and not have this knowledge installed into you from birth. Men aren't some sort of animals that can't control their behaviour and lus…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 01:09 PM
1

If you can't inspire lust in one person it doesn't mean it won't work for somebody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:50 AM
-1

Seeing it as a market is dumb because it isn't a market and so called "SMV" isn't a thing. But romantic feelings need time to grow, so you can date for something else. Out of boredom or just for sex as example.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:27 PM
3

Kid can't leave the school for better one, you know. But nobody force you to go for that particular woman, you can just go for another.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:35 PM
5

Except that any self-respecting guy will lose interest. There are things to do in life other than chasing somebody who show no interest towards you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:55 PM
2

Nobody force men to wait, there are other women out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:49 PM
7

You can just ignore said complains. Complaining can't change anything. "Princess treatment" and obligation to give gifts is just another gender role that forced onto men. If women are dismantling gender roles then there's not point for men to follow them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:45 PM
11

Liberation from gender stereotypes and rigid gender roles work in both ways. So it's fine, everything is exactly how it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:26 PM
2

Yes. And we're together for 10 years at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:17 PM
3

if a woman doesn’t sleep with you almost instantly, she isn’t interested, she’s stringing you along, you should cut and run. But that's true. All and every success I ever had with women were like that. Sex between first and forth date. And all attempts to "build trust/connection first" ended with failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:53 PM
6

"Man up" as an answer to any problem is literal definition of toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:45 PM
3

That's why you don't get close to women that you want or plan to date unless she already agreed to date you. This way you won't have problems with negative consequences caused by rejection. Some women don't like that approach, but that's their problems, you shouldn't put your mental health under risk just because somebody can't make decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:42 PM
53

I agree that only way to become indifferent to rejections is to become indifferent towards women, at least until you get somebody to date you. Human brain just isn't created in the way that allows you to handle so many rejections without significant harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:17 AM
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It isn't an alternative, it's a dead end.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:00 AM
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It will be a really big disappointment. Virtual partner can't say "no", too perfect and just agree with everything and anything. That will become too boring at some point. In same time if experience still good enough and you use it for long enough then it will create a lot of completely unrealistic expectation towards actual people. At level when no actual person can meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:59 AM
2

Marriage and dating are very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:27 PM
3

You can't expect anything else from bastion of conservative values. Life is changing rapidly but expectations aren't, people act like time is frozen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:44 AM
2

Assuming that "SMV" is a thing then only way to actually measure it is to go out and try to have sex with somebody. And then your "SMV" is as high as your success. That's how you measure value of anything on any market.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:42 AM
2

Easy. If somebody tell you that something you do isn't "masculine" then that person doesn't want you to do that. Instead he want you to do something that he sees as "masculine" that you aren't doing. Usually it means something that is useful for somebody else but not for you. So you should ignore anybody who say if anything is "masculine" or 'feminine", those people aren't your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:10 PM
10

Almost all of "red pill facts" are pulled right from the ass. It's all about very specific and shitty kind of women that aren't majority and pretending that it represent every women in the world. Or they run around with some dumb statistics pretending that they don't understand very strong biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:05 PM
1

It's just a manipulation to force men to do what isn't good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:58 PM
2

I'm a man so everything I do is masculine by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:49 PM
2

Not sure. Ability to read body language need some experience (at least as an observer) and not being focused on yourself all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:25 PM
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Good relationships increase quality of your life as nothing else can. People have always said that if you wait the right one will come along. They didn't mean "just sit there and wait until cute girl fall from the sky", you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:46 AM
1

Then don't spend your time with somebody who isn't into you, easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:08 PM
1

Going to another country just to get your dick wet sounds pathetic as hell. And none of those girls like you, they like your money and prospects of getting to first world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:34 PM
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It isn't a fact, but some nonsense that was made-up by dumb losers. And it has nothing to do with my response.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:08 AM
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And you should forget about that idiotic "point system" too. It has literally nothing to do with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:02 AM
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There's a little advice that will solve like most of red pill nonsense: don't go for avoidant women. Exactly that kind that will run from you if you show actual interest. Just don't. Go for women who respond with affection on affection. Like most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:57 AM
1

It won't affect anything. Nobody date to have kids, people date to have fun in the first place. And it won't affect birth rates too, government won't be able to put expenses of raising children on somebody and it won't spend those money itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:58 PM
1

Ugly people are very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:13 PM
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Everything works fine if you aren't a cretin with archaic believes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 09:12 AM
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Beauty has nothing to do with how good your partner is for you. You should stop being that 16 years old boy who know nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:29 AM
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Nothing. Been there, didn't care that much, didn't want to bother and had other things to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:15 AM
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But I don't. Both are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:45 AM
16

Discard both and look for somebody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:41 AM
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Most of your points are about lacking of actual experience, most sources outside of actual experience show romantic relationships in a very screwed and unrealistic way. So of course you'll use that as some sort of blueprint when you just start. And of course you'll be frustrated that nothing is working in way you was told is supposed to work. And then you'll learn that everything you was told about relationships is nothing but lie. Things would be better if relationships in media were portrait i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:33 AM
1

Maybe. Verification that you're an actual person plus up-front payment. But such apps won't make money and won't have big enough audience to be profitable and/or useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:19 AM
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Right: if you want something then go and at least try to do something about that. Wrong: everything else. Manosphere goal is to keep you miserable while selling you wrong solutions as long as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:39 AM
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But your goal in online dating is to move to real world as soon as possible. So if girl is refusing to do that then it doesn't matter if she's real or AI, she isn't good and you have to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:04 AM
1

"Nice guys" call somebody "asshole" if than man understands what he wants and not shy to go for it. If you're assertive then you're an asshole for "nice guy" because that's what "nice guys" don't have. Secret here is that being nice and being assertive aren't mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:02 PM
1

It's just a part of relationships, if you're putting efforts into it then sex will be just there. Just choose right woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:43 AM
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But why do you automatically assume that it's at somebody's else expense? Or you assume that trying to find girl who wants same thing by showing your interest and switching to another of said interest isn't there is somewhat bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:39 PM
1

Married sex is just there, you don't have to worry about it. Just like you don't have to worry about lots of different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:22 PM
1

Why do you see man's desire to have sex as something evil and not valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:18 PM
3

So called "bare minimum" is enough. Women are half of humanity and in general they want same things as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:49 PM
3

I'm not pretty woman, so I have no idea. But there are always somebody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:04 PM
2

But you'll be indifferent towards most people in most cases, not nice. Just because you don't have enough time and energy for that. So being nice towards somebody is already something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:44 PM
1

If you don't see niceness as an investment, won't demand return from it, be direct about your intentions and won't make drama in case of rejection then it should be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:38 PM
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Or you can just not demand anything in exchange of being nice and be open about your intentions if she became interested in you. So no ulterior motives and no hard feelings in case if it didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:23 PM
6

You aren't special, just like everybody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:01 PM
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In any of those scenarios she isn't a girl you want to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:36 AM
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Is there any difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:36 AM
1

Manosphere is full of guys who just can't learn and repeat same mistakes over and over again. I assume they follow all those advises by the letter and not use them as a starting point to figure everything out as you supposed to do. Like "be nice", "take shower" and so on isn't a guide "how to get a woman", but starting point for you to learn. So manosphere is just a bunch of idiots. And idiots exist to be exploited by all sorts of "gurus".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:09 AM
6

It's better when people with archaic mindset remove their sorry genes from gene pool by staying single for their entire lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:52 AM
5

Without birth control your chances to find somebody would be less than today. Because your 'average man' can't provide for family all by himself. So be happy that birth control exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:50 AM
0

Being nice isn't enough by itself and putting somebody ahead of you at your own expense is repulsive. Once you try to be a "nice guy" and fail you supposed to learn that. "Nice guys" just can't learn from their own experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:50 PM
3

It's an easiest type of relationships to handle. It let you to do other things without worrying about balancing multiple partners or worrying about looking for somebody else. It won't die out. And "situationships" is just a zoomer word for "casual dating", at some point it will transform into proper relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:00 AM
2

If somebody try to "conquer" you. It's a clear sign that they see you as a prize to be put on the shelf.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:53 AM
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"Be nice" doesn't mean that you have to tolerate bullshit or be passive. You must be nice, understand what you want and be assertive in same time. Nobody explain latter, in movies "nice guy" doesn't need to be assertive and women's bullshit sold as something "cute". Movies aren't real life, but you still have to learn what it really mean "to be nice" from somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:38 AM
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You can't win somebody over. Except if she's one of those mentally ill women who want to be conquered. But you don't want to be with such person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:34 PM
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It's much easier to understand if you think that finding women is fishing and not hunting. And bait is yourself. So you go to places where you can communicate with women, behave in natural way and check which women liked you. Then go for them. If nobody took the bait then you can try again, check another place or change something in yourself. Human brain hardwired to form connections with other humans so unless you're repulsive (like smell bad or behave like redpiller) somebody will like you. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:30 PM
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Men who can sleep with women with very little efforts are good at filtering out women who need more effort for same outcome. Instead of going on dates with attempts to impress somebody they just give up as soon as possible and go for somebody else. Or create situation where women filter themselves by not trying to chase them, so only those who are really interested stay. All sex and good relationships that I had didn't need serious efforts to get, but all attempts where I tried to put efforts in…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:42 PM
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Well, if you won't say "no" then you'll have bigger problems in the future. And please use normal units, I have no idea how much this "200lb" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:07 AM
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imagine what it’s like to have to say no to someone bigger & stronger than you not knowing what their mental state is like Did exactly that to bullies back in middle school. What's next?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:39 AM
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You have no actual idea about any of them. You only know accurately created image of them, not who they actually were. And that image is unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:40 AM
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Problem with those so called "high value men" is that they don't exist. All sorts of those "great men" are just an images, sometimes it's pure fiction. You don't know who they really are, what they really think or feel. So all those poor boys are trying to match impossible standards instead of figuring out who they actually want to be. Of course they're going to fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:21 AM
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Ability to cold approach women increases your chances and your choice. Pure cold approach is like gacha, chances that you pull what you want is almost zero. But if you can do that with random women then you can do that with women in more appropriate environment too. I think every man should be able to cold approach just for that. Still won't help if your standards are absurd of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:17 AM
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Then you're looking in wrong places and you should try to approach women outside of your social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:25 AM
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"Ick" is just a meme and far too many people fall for it. There are women who want caricature of a man, but it's better for you to stay away from that kind of people. And woman who have too many "icks" will stay single, real people are far from being perfect. Or "ick" is just an excuse for rejection, where rejection comes first and "icks" is just an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:36 AM
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