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So why this much resistance to the idea that quite a lot of women are attracted to bad men? We see it in fiction, we see it irl, why the sudden instance that women are attracted to good men when both reality and fiction seem to reflect that true? Infact a good man is more likely to end up in poly relationship, or some kind of hotwife dynamic. Because something just about female sexuality that is antagonistic to stability, peace and just kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 06:02 PM
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That by definition means that women being attracted to bad men, isn't really trp pseudoscience. If attraction is not logical, then it would follow that women would be attracted to pretty counterintuitive things, which is actually trp has always argued
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:54 PM
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Like even if a guy just wants to have a series of FWB, you want that kind of fucking drama in your life? I think that's preferable to most guys, than being a beta champ for a woman who has a history of casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:51 PM
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But logic should dictate that if women are genuinely attracted to good kind men their fantasies would atleast reflect that on some level
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:47 PM
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There’s plenty of non-abusive men drowning in pussy though Even the men they fantasize about in fiction aren't really good in the way that most ppl conceptualize goodness
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:44 PM
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I sound like someone who's dealing with some thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 10:27 AM
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I mean I'm just saying, if they'd be grossed out at the possibility of being intimate with me, that just shows how ugly they think I am. And I can not for the life of me, get why anyone would be friends with someone who sees them that way
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 09:59 AM
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Well I think it's rude to be friends with ppl you find ugly but hey maybe that's just me. I'd be pretty insulted if my best friend thought I was ugly and was still friends with me. I'd know that they been using me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 07:10 AM
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Nope but quite a lot of them do
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 06:27 PM
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How can you respect someone who you think is too ugly for you ? That you can't even stomach the idea of being intimate with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 06:18 PM
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Do you need stats to know how many women are in the world? Or is it something that is self evident?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:39 AM
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I mean just look at how many deadbeats and toxic abusive dudes get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:59 AM
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Haven't you guys proven time and time again that you find most of your male friends unattractive or not your type
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:50 AM
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No they love to fuck them, ideally most women want women who are a bit modest in their indulgence when it comes to serious relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:58 PM
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What other option do they have to achieve said goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:25 AM
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I mean as long as it would help tone down the promiscuity in women I think it's valid
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 03:49 AM
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Yes, if I can't have it then no one else should be able to. I think that's fair. I'd be fine with her not being very sexually present as long as she is that way with all men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:49 AM
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I highly doubt that. I think it's more likely that they might end up finding other traits more attractive than they would if they had access to abortion. Don't underestimate the human body's ability to adapt
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:47 AM
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But if she doesn’t have access, then she is more likely to find someone who will make it easier, in your words Which most men are fine with as long as the alpha doesn't get to fuck, that's the entire point. Men have always been jealous of men who could sleep with women without commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:41 AM
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Either way, removing access to abortion reduces the likelihood of women engaging in casual partners, which in turn would make loyal, decent dudes more of an attractive opportunity than say a fun asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:36 AM
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We also know what happens if you grant access to those things, af/BB becomes more common place. Atleast with lack of abortion access, it will make women only have interest in loyal decent partners, and not just attractive assholes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:23 AM
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It will. Making abortion illegal won't suddenly make the desire for sex to go away. What it will tho, is increase female selectivity to the point jerks who would otherwise be deadbeats less chance, since the cons would outweigh the pros
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:19 AM
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You don’t rape or murder because rape and murder are bad .. not to be attractive to women Morality is subjective my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:48 PM
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Besides, men have never claimed to be the more moral gender, which. Is why they're never critiscized when they pick bad women. Iwomen are critiscized because of they're always going on and on about just wanting a good man who will treat them well, so ofcourse it's gonna stick out when they're attracted or fuck problematic men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:01 PM
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According to women's logic, being a rapist or serial killer is not enough to make a guy unattractive but somehow being autistic does. So odds are, I'd have more of a chance with women as a grapist than I would if I was autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:59 PM
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I mean, I guess I just think the fact that rape doesn't make a guy instantly unattractive is quite telling. If women want to be taken seriously, they have to evolve such problematic men attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:57 PM
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I suppose. But I'll admit, there's just something awfully beautiful about a woman who has sex only in the confines of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:54 PM
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Maybe it's better not to give them something to be jealous of from the get go. Some times women get shocked why men end up being such terrible partners in marriages not knowing they're lowkey being made to pay for this perceived injustice. Some men simply cheat as a way to even out the playing field, because Yoh thought it was okay to sleep with other dudes casually but when it came to him, nah uh, must put a ring on it first
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:53 PM
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I've never heard a man use the word sexual chemistry, that's exclusively more of a woman thing. Most men would simply just focus on her bodily features
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:50 PM
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A lot of women found Ted bundy hot, it’s not like they have a built in meter that determines attraction based on some pure Bible-centered formula. Which is why you can't blame men for not taking rape seriously. It should follow that some crimes make someone instantly unattractive, otherwise victim blaming will remain a valid approach to these things. It's crazy that autism or can make a guy unattractive but something as heinous as rape can't. Women will never beat the allegations I swear
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:49 PM
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Why is she considered “someone else’s slut” for the night but he wouldn’t be? He is, but being a slut as a man carries positive connotations because not all men can be sluts, but most if not all women can be sluts if they want to. Why is your issue only with women who have one night stands and not men? I don't really have an issue per se, I just think this dual mating strategy as seen, is literally what lends the red pill so much fuel. For a long time, I'm guessing women were thoought to be diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:45 PM
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I don't think it's more about the encounter that they have a problem with, because typically what they say they feel when they discover that their woman was a hoe, is that they have this epiphany moment, where they feel some kind of loss of respect, typically talking about not being able to see them the same way again or some shit. Which in my view would not occur if the sexual encounters were relationship bound
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:35 PM
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Maybe because women are the sexual selectors
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:32 PM
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I would not find a problematic woman, especially a druggie fuckable, but hey that's just me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:32 PM
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Why would a one night stand between two consenting adults cause bitterness? As long as everyone’s clear on Because said women don't end up settling with the guys they were sleeping with. I know it may sound fucked up and it probably is, but most men don't want to think that their special little lady was okay being some other guy's slut for the night. Which is why you hear all this talk about body-counts. I genuinely believe in my heart of hearts, that if most men had the power, they would mould/…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:28 PM
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I mean surely, A godless worldview forces us to concede that all moral statements are just arbitrary opinions at the end of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:23 PM
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I didn’t even mention rapists in my comment. I I mean considering what you wrote, I wouldn't put it above you to sleep with such a guy, but what do I know. I said women can be sexually attracted to people who aren’t partner potential, even outright horrible, JUST like men can be. I agree this is true, but also that this is literally the root cause of the redpill. For a long time, men were under the illusion that women were different, more moral and responsible than them. But slowly this facade h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:19 PM
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There's no point if it doesn't amount to anything at the end of the day. All humans work with incentives, if being a jerk gets you laid quicker, you'll have a lot of jerks in said society
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:10 PM
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You can't say that rape doesn't make a guy unfuckable, and then get surprised when guys don't think being a decent guy is even worth it. I know it may sound fucked up and it probably is, but alot of male behavior is driven by the desire or acquisition of sexual access to women. So if you want to live in a world where men hold each other accountable, and try being decent beings, the least women are required to do is to not be attracted to such problematic dudes. Otherwise toxic abusive dudes simp…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 07:00 PM
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Probably, but the world would be a better place of women didn't find them so fuckable and just stuck being exclusively attracted to guys they were compatible with, would save a lot of the bitterness and things like trp prolly wouldn't even exist. But hey, maybe that's just me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:56 PM
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Reread her comment. This time a little slowly
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:50 PM
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Oh my fucking God
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:48 PM
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Crazy stuff right there
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:46 PM
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This is so disturbing. And yet you wonder why men never hold each other accountable. If even a rapist is still fuckable in women's eyes, are you really shocked when victim blaming is so common place?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:46 PM
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Holy cow. Is there really any point in being a decent guy anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:43 PM
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I don't think attractiveness is the common denominator. I think cockiness plays a very significant role in women's attraction triggers. If you read any smut, the male lead is often a cocky smartass
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:40 PM
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For some reason it REALLY pisses men off that women can have sex and not give a fuck about the man as soon as it’s over. 🤷‍♀️ I think it's less that, and more so that the woman in question will in future want some other man to give her relationship. No man wants to think that his special little lady was okay just being some other guy's slut for the night. There's something so cuck like about it all
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:35 PM
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There are many guys I’m physically attracted to and can see myself sleeping with, who I would not date or marry I don't know why the thought of a woman wanting to sleep with a guy like that, makes me wanna burp
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 06:03 PM
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them I would assume that they've already been faithful for at least a few years, which is all the proof you need. After all, it was enough to marry them. Maybe the aversion is less due to cheating and more due to feeling they don't deserve you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 07:23 PM
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Nah, I don’t buy the “it’s just about looks” thing. If that were true, two identical hot twins would have the exact same dating life. But in reality, the “rule breaker” twin will run circles around the “nice guy” twin when it comes to casual sex. Why? Because women don’t just lust after faces — they lust after the edge. It’s the cocky, reckless, emotionally unavailable guy that makes them tingle, not the respectful, caring, communicative one. And here’s the twisted part: the same traits that wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 05:18 PM
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I mean that's fine. I don't think not wanting to be with a slut is insecure, but hey, maybe that's just me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 11:51 PM
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If that were true no woman would ever justify cnc or other crazy kinks like that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:40 PM
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I had to move over here to get me an untainted Kenyan woman. It's a blast enjoying the decline of the west
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:40 PM
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I guess I just don't think promiscuous women are capable of being decent partners. Having such a reputation shows a crazy lack of regard to their potential future partners
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:37 PM
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Nothing wrong with being insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:36 PM
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I’ve always said it’s a jealousy issue and I believe that you are jealous that she had more options than you It has nothing to do with her. It has everything to do with what other men could get out of her. I'm jealous that a cheating asshole could probably get sex out of her faster than I ever could. I'm mad that the men who always seem to have what women claim they want are probably more likely to end up in the friendzone compared to a fucking jerk. The fact that you’re bringing up attraction l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:34 PM
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who I was at 22 let Just because you didn't doesn't mean everyone also didn't. 4yrs into adulthood and you didn't know what you wanted? We're you a late bloomer or some shit? I can't wrap my head around this idea that 22yr olds don't know what they want. I knew the kind of girl I wanted to, be with forever from as early as 15 and I thought that was pretty late
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:54 PM
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God forbid someone stays in a relationship with someone who’s kind and attractive I don't think most men have an issue with their current gf having dated kind men in her past, what they do have an issue with however is her dating a playboy and then later switching to a stable guy. You guys make it seem like assholes are so irresistibly hot that women just help but fall for them when they are young.are decent guys so boring that only time they would be chosen is after the woman has experimented w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:47 PM
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I think they do, they just don't care. What they want is to be a woman's type without being her back up plan. And they can only achieve this by dating women didn't need to mature into liking them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:34 PM
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What I don't get is why women are never accused of wanting to be raped for being Into cnc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:30 AM
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Because it can only feel good when it comes from a woman who doesn't do casual. Pretty self explanatory if you really think about it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:19 AM
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A pedophile is someone who is literally attracted to children. This is not in any way related to consenting adults roleplaying Someone into cnc is someone who gets turned by scenarios that simulate a lack of consent, I think this inherently dangerous and disgusting and in a world with SA as an issue, should not be tolerated or accepted. I think society shunning such kinks is for the greater good. But people who do that are in no way hurting anyone. I think the entire idea actually promotes rape,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 05:03 AM
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That is so fucked up. We need to normalize ppl getting off on appropriate things
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:51 AM
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I’m saying the logic that excuses one could just as easily excuse the other. If you hide behind the whole ‘it’s just fantasy, I’d never act on it’ defense, then guess what? A pedophile could use the exact same script. And nobody would accept that. So either we agree that certain attractions are inherently disturbing no matter how much you wrap them in safe-words and candles… or we admit that this is just a socially-approved way of eroticizing trauma while pretending it’s all healthy and empoweri…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:47 AM
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If someone gets turned on by something you disapprove of, nothing needs to be done. There's a reason society doesn't allow the manufacturer of sex dolls that look like kids. A man having sex with a sexdoll isn't doing anything wrong. But society does not allow the manufacturer of sex dolls that look like kids,
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:41 AM
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I think it's inherently wrong and problematic to be turned on by anything as disgusting as a lack of consent. To me it's no different than being turned on by something that simulates paedophilia. But you're welcome to show me if there's a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:39 AM
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No sane person should be turned on by anything that simulates a lack of consent just like no normal person should be turned on by anything that simulates paedophilia
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:37 AM
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I think, if a man who wants to roleplay paedophilia is secretly a pedo, then logic also dictates that a woman into cnc also wants to be raped
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:36 AM
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Not entirely, but you cannot get rid of rape in a world where women are fantasizing and writing about such things
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:34 AM
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Well, then don’t date or sleep with women who want to roleplay it 🤷🏻‍♀️ Nope I think the existence of such kinks is a bit dangerous and society should do everything in its power to discourage them, because all they do is perpetuate this idea that women deep down want to be raped and consent is not a big deal. A rape free world cannot exist in a world where such things are encouraged. They are mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:32 AM
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And yeah, if an older man is specifically wanting to date a girl who just turned 18, and wants her to roleplay as younger, I would assume he has some pedo tendencies By that logic, why would you also not also assume a woman into cnc doesn't want to be raped? If i found out a man was into role play with his gf with him as an old man and her as a teenage girl, I wouldn't consider him anything other than a pedo, and would never allow him anyway around kids. But hey, maybe that's just me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:30 AM
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Lol. Either way. It's very unrealistic to expect sexual crimes to disappear while women are mustarbating and even advocating for such things
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:27 AM
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Fantasy is fantasy, it doesn’t mean women who have those fantasies are turned off by consent in reality I don't think it's reasonable for a person who's pro consent to advocate for role-play scenarios that simulate a lack of consent especially in a world where SA is such a big problem. But hey maybe that's just me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:25 AM
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Fantasy is fantasy, Does that apply to a 30yr old man wanting to roleplay paedophilia with his newly turned 18yr old gf. Or would you he's a pedo in disguise?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:23 AM
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What if a 30yr old man wanted to roleplay paedophilia scene with his 18yr old gf. I'm willing to bet everyone will argue he's a pedo
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:21 AM
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aren’t actually wanting to be raped Then why would they eveolve to be turned on by something that simulates rape or a lack of consent of all things? I think it's pretty counterproductive to be against SA and still advocate for scenarios that simulate a lack of consent. Imagine if a 30yr old man was interested in roleplaying paedophilia with his 18yr old gf. Everyone will assume that man is a pedo. But when women get turned on and advocate for rapey scenarios suddenly they want to claim they don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:20 AM
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If you only ever hear women say that consent is a turn off, you’re talking to only a very small pool of women. Or (more likely) not actually understanding what women are saying. Have you ever read female smut? This is a genuine question
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:15 AM
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Why do you guys think the same is not true for men? Is it the case the women experience temperature differently that's why they gravitate towards more revealing or skympy clothing? Or is it the case that female nudity has long been considered a status symbol so much so that many women can't get their head out of it? genuinely curious
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:13 AM
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Because if it were not, we'd expect women to dress modestly like we did. Why do you think the same is not true for men? Is it the case the women experience temperature differently that's why they gravitate towards more revealing or skympy clothing? Or is it the case that female nudity has long been considered a status symbol so much so that many women can't get their head out of it? genuinely curious
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:12 AM
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Why do you think the same is not true for men? Is it the case the women experience temperature differently that's why they gravitate towards more revealing or skympy clothing? Or is it the case that female nudity has long been considered a status symbol so much so that many women can't get their head out of it? genuinely curious
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:11 AM
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If men didn't exist I would barely wear clothes outside Why do you think the same is not true for men? Is it the case the women experience temperature differently that's why they gravitate towards more revealing or skympy clothing? Or is it the case that female nudity has long been considered a status symbol so much so that many women can't get their head out of it? genuinely curious
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:10 AM
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Like some crop tops genuinely look nice because they’re cut short Why would they look bad if they cover everything down to the waist? That's the part I don't get. Personally, I don’t dress in anything that has like my ass hanging out or anything, but definitely have worn deep v necks, and short skirts because they fit with a specific aesthetic I’m feeling I just think it's strange that we live in a world where men can feel and look and look attractive without wearing revealing clothing or make u…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:06 AM
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Depends, does she think it was empowering? Would she take it back if she could time travel? Would she have made different choices if she didn't have that trauma? If the answer to all those is a definitive yes, then that can be negotiated
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:03 AM
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I'm simply asking we live in a world where men are able to look and feel attractive without wearing revealing clothing. I'm just curious why that principle doesn't seem to apply to women unless you are willing to make the case that women experience temperature differently that's why they have to wear revealing clothes?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:57 AM
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Y’all break up for some reason. Now, I’m gonna get judged by guys for being passionate with my previous partner and that makes me not good enough to be in a relationship? I think you're missing the key difference in the example I laid out. It's not so much that she was in love with him, it's that she was in love with him despite him being a fuckboi. The jealousy flairs up when she was all of that to a man who has nothing in common with you, or a man whose sexual and moral conduct you disagree wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:55 AM
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And they can only achieve that with revealing clothing? How come men are able to look and feel attractive without wearing revealing clothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:51 AM
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Seems like validation is one helluva drug. Women are so funny sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:50 AM
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Would you still like the outfits if they were less short and more long or normal sized
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:49 AM
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How come they don't feel pretty in normal sized wear that doesn't show tits and butts?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:47 AM
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Maybe I read your response and I can’t find it again but how important is a sexual history in general? I know you said it’s very important to you but is there like a hard and fast line in the sand for you like “6 partners is too much” or something? Is there wiggle room for that? Like I said, I’m not into promiscuous men but I don’t think I have a magic number or anything. I think the actual number(bodycount)isn't as important as a lot of men out there believe 🤷‍♂️. I'd wager men who are interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:34 AM
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I'm sorry that suggesting fun things to do that you also enjoy, hanging out, talking, laughing, flirting, touching, kissing, making out, and ultimately fucking beautiful women is so unpleasant for you that you can't seem to enjoy any of it until the "fucking" part. I think the point is that all those things are fun and wholesome, but they end up feeling and meaning so much less if the woman has a history of casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:02 AM
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From the female perspective, toxic men feel exciting. They are unpredictable, which translates into “interesting.” They are emotionally inconsistent, which translates into “mysterious.” They break rules, which translates into “powerful.” And here’s the tragic part: for a lot of women, especially in their younger years, excitement trumps stability. Safety feels boring. Predictability feels like a platonic relationship. That’s why so many men quietly cut ties once they realize they’ve been cast as…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:51 AM
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No way am I’m interested in any male enough to deal with all of that nonsense. I don't think all males are like this, obviously there are exceptions to the rule. It's something that I've seen come up in quite some relationships in friendship circles, and it's quite troubling for some guys, it really eats them up inside. They learn a few details of their woman's sexual history then they extrapolate mental details based off of those details. And these fantasies more or less come to torture these I…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:48 AM
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I feel bad for you that you have to manipulate your way into a relationship because, holy hell, some of that is straight up crazy. In a different universe, where say casual sex was non-existent, perhaps I would have made a good husband and father.I have always seen myself getting married some day, but every time I envisioned this picture perfect life, I always pictured it with a nice chaste woman who wasn't into the casual lifestyle. To put it simply, bodycount is something very important to me.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:37 AM
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Guys like that are typically found in the friendzone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:28 AM
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It's only a compliment when it comes from a woman who has no history or interest in casual sex, but it's an insult when it comes from a woman with a colorful past. Its no different from her calling you a cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:24 AM
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It's only a compliment when it comes from a woman who has no history or interest in casual sex, but it's an insult when it comes from a woman with a colorful past. Its no different from her calling you a cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:23 AM
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It also stems back to why do you think you deserve sex on a certain schedule? Hookup culture gave rise to that expectation. Is it a deal breaker to you to have to wait a while? My willingness to wait depends on the woman's sexual history. How would you know such things about these women though? Do you ask? What if they don’t tell you of their past? Do you then automatically think she’s promiscuous? I don’t discuss my sexual history typically and I can assure it, it’s quite short but I’ve been ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:12 AM
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I think it has a lot more to do with whom it's coming from. It's only a compliment when it comes from a woman who has no history or interest in casual sex, but it's an insult when it comes from a woman with a colorful past. Its no different from her calling you a cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:03 AM
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It's only a compliment when it comes from a woman who has no history or interest in casual sex, but it's an insult when it comes from a woman with a colorful past. Its no different from her calling you a cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:00 AM
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It's only a compliment when it comes from a woman who has no history or interest in casual sex, but it's an insult when it comes from a woman with a colorful past. Its no different from her calling you a cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:59 AM
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It's only a compliment when it comes from a woman who has no history or interest in casual sex, but it's an insult when it comes from a woman with a colorful past. Its no different from her calling you a cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:56 AM
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It's a compliment when it comes from a woman who has no history or interest in casual sex, but it's an insult when it comes from a woman with a colorful past. Its no different from her calling you a cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:56 AM
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You're welcome to feel that way, that's fine
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:44 AM
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I mean shit like that happens irl too. Look at the men with multiple baby mamas that's their modus operandi. They genuinely believe some women are only good enough to baby Mama's. These believe that singlemotherhood is less wrong and a more appropriate fate for women whose sexual and moral conduct they disagree with. And this is why deadbeats get scot free and no one ever bothers to hold them accountable because they deep down see deadbeats as their proxies for revenge. Bad men offer carthasis t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:43 AM
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Stop using chat gtp to write long meaningless essays that show you really have limited understanding and experience with women. I don't have the patience or the time to write such long posts, better to just copy paste to put the point across. I’m seriously doubting your earlier claim of hooking up with a taken woman who did things with you she didn’t do in relationship, You're welcome to doubt that, that's fine. I mean, it won't change the past
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:38 AM
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I’ve only dated sexually successful guys and all the men I know are like this are the ones who are married and who have happy relationships and their partners all had a fun time while dating as well. Like finds like That's not always true, I've seen countless TikToks and online posts of women asking "How come men never marry the women they used to smoke around and party with in campus?" And guys answering that some women are just supposed to test drives, or starter girlfriends and stepping stone…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:35 AM
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Why nice guys fail or get chosen last. Vanilla Tendencies: Good guys tend to equate “good sex” with “safe sex.” They focus on making love, cuddling, and being emotionally connected, great for relationships but often disconnected from the raw, primal desires many women secretly crave. Good guys often over-index on emotional intimacy while neglecting sexual energy, leading to a perception that they’re not as exciting in bed. Fear of Dark Desires: Many good guys fear they’ll come across as disrespe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:27 AM
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This societal disconnect also explains why the bad boy trope is so effective. Women subconsciously associate bad men with the ability to indulge the darker, more chaotic side of their sexuality, something a "good guy" might not intuitively understand or be willing to embrace. It’s like they fear the good guy would break under the weight of their true freak flag. Why "Good Guys" Struggle to Connect Good guys often struggle with the illicit side of female desire because they’ve been raised in a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:24 AM
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When you dive into female-authored erotica or some of the confessions on Reddit, it’s like eavesdropping on a secret they’ve hidden even from themselves. The desires expressed are raw, intense, and often morally ambiguous. Think Christian Grey from Fifty Shades, the archetype of the morally grey "bad boy" who somehow embodies what many women fantasize about but would hesitate to admit. It makes you wonder: are "good guys" losing the game because they’re not equipped to match these hidden, unspok…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:20 AM
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Toxic men are successful because women feel like good guys aren't able to match their freak There’s a shadow lurking in the realm of desire, a truth few dare to say aloud but is whispered between the lines of NSFW confessions, laced into the erotica women consume, and etched in the fantasy of the bad boy archetype. It’s not that women are lying to men outright, it’s that society has conditioned them to keep their true sexual selves locked away. And that vault is guarded by a fear so primal it ke…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:17 AM
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They are and I know this because I once slept with a girl who was in a relationship for this exact reason. I mean just think about why women are drawn to smut so much for a second here... I would even go as far as to say the reason a lot of nice decent guys are chosen last has a lot more to do with this principle than most people realize
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:14 AM
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The relationship guy is also getting more in return because he’s getting a relationship hence the companionship, love, and being cared for in various ways depending on the relationship and length of relationship. True. I think what women have troubling grasping, is that means so much less if she has a history of casual sex. Let’s also be real when guys are talking about not getting the same sex the other people got it always comes down to anal, because vaginal is standard and no one is not getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:07 AM
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Either way, there's just something so humiliating about realizing your girl was just okay being some other guy's slut for the night, and wants something serious with you. Being called bf material by a woman who has got no experience or interest in casual ex is probably the most validating thing ever, but being called one, by a woman who has a colorful past, is down right humiliating due to its parallels with cuckoldry
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:05 AM
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Do boyfriends not get a lot more than just sex from their partners? A relationship is more than sex. True. But you need to understand that, all that means so much less if she was ok being some guy's slut for the night
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:01 AM
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But hookups pay alot less to access her body than boyfriends do? The bf has to be her unpaid therapist, walking ATM, best friend, just to get access to almost the same thing that the hookup did, except with much less enthusiasm from her
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 12:58 AM
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This hypothetical woman would've had that intention with you, thats why shes in a relationship with you or is pursuing one. Why any man would want a woman like that when he can get one who didn't need all that shit, is just so beyond me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 12:53 AM
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Also, why wouldn't it be a good thing that a woman experienced other men and still chose you? I can assure you, no one wants leftovers
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 12:51 AM
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I would never date a woman who dated men worse than me, atleast not seriously. Personally I prefer women who date men that if I was her father, I would approve of
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 11:43 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:27 PM
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Women weren’t children at 22. They did know the difference. They didn’t choose “junk food” out of ignorance, they chose it out of excitement. And that’s the part that stings.She didn’t pick the ‘junk food’ because she didn’t know better, she picked it because it thrilled her more than the steak sitting on the menu. That’s the part men can’t just gloss over. Because it’s not ignorance, it’s preference. She preferred the fast food when her appetite was at its hungriest, and only came back for stea…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:24 PM
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If you read any book, you slowly start to realize that women are more so drawn to rule breaker tyoes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:17 PM
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I would probably break up with a girl if I realized she has no exes who are similar to me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:14 PM
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It's better to be single and miserable than be with a woman who reminds you how boring and ugly you are that she had to get old first for her to finally consider you as an option. Shit like that will take you out faster than any loneliness ever could
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:13 PM
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Men don’t feel like leftovers because women never knew what was best, men feel like leftovers because she did know what excited her most at her peak, and it wasn’t him. At 22, she didn’t pick ‘cheap food’ because she didn’t know better, she picked it because that’s what she wanted in the moment. She had access to the main menu the whole time; she just thought it was boring compared to the junk food. And that’s where the sting comes in for men. It’s not that she never knew the ‘best.’ It’s that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:11 PM
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And that’s the essence of what Redpill is hammering home: you don’t get to have it both ways. You pick the bad boy, you’re saying goodbye to the comfort and security of the nice guy’s world ( I'm talking about real nice guys, not the made-up demonized version that women on Reddit like to peddle around). This is why there's a lot of resentment-inducing rhetoric in the manosphere. The point is to make these men feel mad enough to not be captain save a hoe. They want these women to face consequence…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:03 PM
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The root cause of the bitterness among men, is women's preferences changing over time Women love to talk about how their tastes evolve over time, like one day they wake up and suddenly the guy with the 401k is hotter than the guy with the felony. But what’s really happening is that they’ve had their fun, lived out their wildest fantasies, and now they want the safety net they once rejected. And that’s what pisses guys off, being treated like the safe option after the bad boy has run her life int…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:02 PM
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There’s bitterness in it. Because deep down, every man knows what it feels like to be invisible when she’s young, beautiful, and spoiled for choice. To be the one she brushed past at 22 because her heart beat faster for the chaotic guy who treated her like dirt. You wait, you work on yourself, you become stable, dependable, the kind of man who can build a home, and only then does she circle back, after life broke her down. But by then it doesn’t feel like love. It feels like you’re the party lef…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:37 PM
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I get the shiny car analogy you’re making, but that’s not really what’s happening here. It’s not that she skipped over ‘cheap cars’ and then finally upgraded to a fancy one. It’s that she test drove the Ferraris for fun in her 20s, burned out the engines, then decided she now wants the reliable Lexus. And sure, in the moment she’s picking the Lexus, it’s the ‘best option for her current needs.’ But from the Lexus’s perspective? That’s not a win, that’s being chosen after the thrill rides are ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:33 PM
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Ok, cool story. I don't know what else you need me to respond to
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:22 PM
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Why is humiliating? What's so hard to grasp about men wanting to be chosen for the cheating jerk? Are good men so boring that they always have to be chosen last???
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:19 PM
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I mean you are welcome to believe what you want. That's fine
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:16 PM
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I've known plenty of women who had a bad boy phase in college and went on to fool poor unsuspecting betas into marriage. If I were you, I'd not be very quick to underrate a woman's capacity to fake attraction. Some of this beta don't know any better
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:13 PM
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This fan fiction is why so many of y'all struggle. Tbh, call is self subotage or whatever, but I'd rather die a single miserable death than be a woman's backup plan. It would shake everything I've ever known as a man to it's foundation and probably kill my self worth, I would probably feel like I was just put on this earth to just pay bills, stress and die. Yes, growing and doing better is a compliment. Nope, a woman knowing better from the get go is always going to better. Believe it or not, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:12 PM
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Either way, as a man you're always going to be better off, with a woman who didn't have to switch preferences to accommodate your type. A woman who has always had you as a type, is just the honest solution, that or being content with a life of single hood and finding meaning outside of relationships. I can't see a scenario where being captain-save-a-hoe is going to end well
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:57 PM
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If it were simply fanfic, bad men, the cheating jerks, the assholes, they would never be given the time of day by women. Sadly, they have fun with her first, and leave the damage for billy beta to deal with. I know it sounds fucked and it probably is, but the easiest way to put it, It's like being handed leftovers
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:45 PM
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For many women, in their teens/20s, the “bad boy” archetype is thrilling. He’s confident, unpredictable, dangerous, he feels like life at full volume. But that type often comes with baggage: instability, infidelity, lack of commitment. When she gets burned enough times, she recalibrates. That’s the “humbling”: realizing that the men who gave her the strongest butterflies may not give her the life she actually wants long-term. So she pivots. She starts looking at the “boring” dependable guy she w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:43 PM
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Life didn't humble her or me. I grew up and wanted different things in my 30s than in my 20s. Just like I wanted different things in from 20s from As a man, if she wouldn't want you in her 20s, I'm not sure why you would want her to want you in her 30s. What she's attracted to when she has all those options to choose from is what counts. Her reprioritizing her needs after Chad proved to be toxic to handle isn't the compliment many women seem to think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:39 PM
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Her feelings would mean so much less if she was into some toxic jerk and later had to mature into liking me. It's very humiliating to realize that life had to humble her for her to even consider you as an option. It's why men want to be chosen from the get go, or at the very least she has to have been into guys who are similar like me, for her supposed feelings later for me, to mean anything. Idk if it makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:37 PM
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Life didn’t humble her I think it did. Odds are if Chad hadn't cheated on her or hit her or be abusive she would still be with him. Having fun is a part of human development and not a bad thing That's good and okay, but it's unfair for a girl like that for a girl like that to end up with a guy who was invincible during that period. Y’all refuse to believe that people can change and I don't think the issue is believing they can't change, the issue is a man not being her ideal type from the get go…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:34 PM
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I believe she grew into a person who would love me. I also know I'd have been invisible to her at 18 or 20, but I'd have noticed her. Wanted her. That's humbling. That is so fucked up. You need to work on your esteem or get with a girl who would've looked your way when she had those options.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:29 PM
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Idk, but this method is atleast surely going to prevent some few beta bucks scenarios. The woman has to have given guys who are similar like you a chance. If her exes feel nothing like you, you're better off being just bodycount for her
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:23 PM
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Why is growth and experience such a hated concept for some guys in here? Because it always works pretty much the same way for most women. Life has to humble her into leaving the bad boy to giving the good guy a chance. That's the humiliating aspect
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:21 PM
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I don't think it's a case of waiting too long. It's never too late for that kind of stuff. Op would've been rejected either way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:46 AM
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friend" immediately stops being her friend the moment the relationship door closes. I think that commonly happens because most men know they wouldn't be able to handle it if she starts dating especially dating a guy, I'm purely convinced guys would still stay friends with a woman they were in love with if they knew the woman was into girls. There's just something so humbling and cuck like being in love with a woman who would pick another man over you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:41 AM
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I think the men here want women's preferences to remain the same and I think that's fair. Having to be with a woman who life had to humble her into appreciating you is one of the most humbling experiences you will ever have as a man. Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:36 AM
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Why pick that woman when you can have the option of picking a woman who didn't have to mature into liking and appreciate a guy like you? I always say, before you ever settle with a woman, you have to sus out whether or not she would have picked you had you been in her sphere around the time she was in her early 20s, You do this by figuring out the kinds of men she dated around that time, if the men feel worlds apart from who you consider yourself to be as a person, that's your cue to either leav…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:34 AM
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Before you ever settle with a woman as a man, you have to sus out whether or not she would have picked you had you been in her sphere around the time she was in her early 20s, Yoh do this by figuring out the kinds of men she dated around that time, if the men feel worlds apart from who you consider yourself as a person, that's your cue to either leave her or string her along for the sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:31 AM
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Before you ever settle with a woman, you have sus out whether or not she would have picked you had you been in her sphere around the time she was in her early 20s, Yoh do this by figuring out the kinds of men she dated around that time, if the men feel worlds apart from who you consider yourself as a person, that's your cue to either leave her or string her along for the sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:31 AM
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But the players and cheaters. And generally just the "asshole" kind of guys are going to be heavily saturated in the dating scene because they are always "single" and entertaining women. They will be the ones on dating apps heavily. So if you Players and cheaters are simply a case of demand breeds supply
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 08:20 PM
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But that mindset isn't just limited to rapists. It's pervasive in society to the point, even parents, relatives, friends, ask "What was she wearing."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 01:31 AM
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You don't think men in the west don't want to stone promiscuous women? Course they want to deep down
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 09:56 PM
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And what is the 1st question most men and women ask? "what was she wearing?". Meaning that quite a lot of ppl believe rape is less wrong and a more appropriate fate for someone whose sexual and moral conduct they disagree with
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 09:55 PM
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Here's a more holistic answer... Let's assume that she hasn't done anything wrong in the relationship, and that infact she is as loyal as she can be. So why does the jealousy flare up in regard to her past? The answer is that when a man becomes emotionally bonded with a woman, he begins to do things that he wouldn't do with other women, women with whom he was only sleeping with. He begins to make commitments, sacrifices, maybe he moves her in, maybe he proposes, or gets married, time, energy, mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:12 PM
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Other men's dick is gross to me, mine is not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:05 PM
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A promiscuous woman is more likely to be raped or killed by men. A lot of grapists actually think rape is less wrong and a more appropriate fate for someone who's sexual conduct they disagree with
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:04 PM
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Answer my question. Do women who find periods and messy also self hating?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:00 PM
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I admit this is true on some level. Because for instance I would feel sorry to learn a woman was graped, but if I find out she was also the promiscuous type, the sympathy would turn into indifference real quick
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:59 PM
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So by your logic, women who call periods messy or gross must secretly hate themselves too? I think we can admit something’s not exactly pretty without spiraling into self-hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:56 PM
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Honestly the reaction that men claim to have towards them is overblown. In some cultures a woman sleeping around is a death sentence. She'll either end up as a prostitute or dead from being stoned
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:53 PM
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Because dicks are disgusting, it's like the way alot of men are low-key homophobic. There's something gross about male genitals, which is why they can tolerate a woman being fucked a 1000 times with one guy, but get grossed out if she's had sex a hundred times with 20 dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:51 PM
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Is disgust a valid reason to feel Hatred?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:45 PM
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Let's assume that she hasn't done anything wrong in the relationship, and that infact she is as loyal as she can be. So why does resentment flare up in regard to her past? The answer is that when a man becomes emotionally bonded with a woman, he begins to do things that he wouldn't do with other women, women with whom he was only sleeping with. He begins to make commitments, sacrifices, maybe he moves her in, maybe he proposes, or gets married, time, energy, money and opportunity are all sacrifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:40 PM
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No one wants to think that their special little lady was some other guy's slut for the night
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:33 PM
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First, we’d need to define what “bad” is to you in order to Bad would be men that are more likely to be cheaters, liars, manipulators, deadbeats, jerks, assholes, basically men who prioritize their own interests even at the expense of the woman The bad man isn’t just some edgy dude with a motorcycle and tattoos. The bad man is just the guy who encourages all her worst impulses, like leaving school because fuck it, drink like crazy, drive like maniacs, have crazy raunchy sex together, sneak to go…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:31 PM
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Core personalities barely change after 20. If someone was a timid nice guy, they won't suddenly turn into hot toxic bad boy. If someone was a gigachad they don't suddenly turn into a freaking fat incel
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:49 PM
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Age is irrelevant. It's the personality and looks of the guy that counts
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:26 PM
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You're offended that someone wants to have a relationship with you. Only if it comes from a woman with a casual history you forget that. I think there's something innately gross about being wanted for a relationship with a former hoe. Y'all just want to be disposable meat sticks Not entirely, but it's better than being some woman's consolation prize. And she wants sex and a relationship with the husband material. Don't you think it's a little selfish to want to have your cake and eat it too? Jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:41 AM
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That's all good, they can for all I care. That's the price we have to pay for an unequal society
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:38 AM
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. Kudos, she's a grown woman and wants different things. If she has to grow and learn to appreciate me, I'd pretty insulted. If that's not, what was in her from the get go, idk I think eternal loneliness wouldn't be that bad tbh. I'd rather die a miserable lonely death than get with someone who life had to humble her for her to get to the point where she would appreciate me. Nah I'm good. Keep that Yup. I'm glad that neither of us picked the person our 18 yo selves would have. Judging by the way…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:30 AM
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Why would I not be insulted being called husband material from a woman who was okay being just a warm body for the night for other strange men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:26 AM
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A woman can want to jump your bones but not act on it right away because she wants more than just sex. That's only okay if she doesn't have any history of casual sex. Personally If she does and I find out, let's just say she might turn to a lesbian after me, because she might likely start avoiding all men after whatever I'll have in store for her Y'all are so transactional and lack platonic relationships that you can't fathom how relationships work. Idk, to me a history of casual sex is what set…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:25 AM
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Welps. if she isn't attracted to the same man she was at 18, that's your cue to run the fuck away from her as possible. Your partner is the only family member you get to choose, performing due diligence is simply par for the course
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:19 AM
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Because it means so much less from a woman who has a history of casual sex. Husband material is only a compliment when it comes from a completely non promiscuous women, you know the type who only get involved with men physically inside relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:18 AM
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They are so consumed by sex they can't see the compliment for someone wanting them more than just sexually Because it means so much less from a woman who has a history of casual sex. Husband material is only a compliment when it comes from a completely non promiscuous women, you know the type who only get involved with men physically inside relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:17 AM
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continue to dig yourselves caves of loneliness by believing that if someone doesn't want to have sex with you right away, that she's not attracted to you. Ofcourse she isn't. Any woman who is attracted to you is gonna want to jump your bones off unless she is asexual or has weird sexual hangups due to her conservative upbringing. That is the only valid excuse for a woman who is attracted to you not sleeping with you immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:10 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:07 AM
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That's because you assume that wives aren't attracted to their husbands. Most of them probably are not, especially if her preferences changed. If she didn't marry the same type of guy she was attracted to at 18, odds are she compromised on physical attraction for stability
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:03 AM
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This is probably the most disgusting thing I've read in a while
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 05:17 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 05:08 AM
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Lol funny that it always follows from alpha bad boy to cute beta boy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 10:10 PM
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Isn't that the exact type of guy they mustarbate to in those smutty books they read?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 07:27 PM
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I can't think of any woman anywhere who wouldn't find a guy like that attractive. They might not date him, but I would bet my life they would fantasize about a hot one night stand with a guy like that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 06:45 PM
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This is word for word, the exact type of guy that women fan girl over in those fictional books they read and movies they watch especially middle class women lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 06:43 PM
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You must be fun to hang around with
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 06:21 PM
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Yes, people who are willing to take risks and not be perfect all the time are extremely attractive in general Put this on a poster. I feel like this gets to the heart of the matter why women are always told to choose better. You guys are attracted to pretty counterproductive things that imperfect man is going to cheat ok you and make you regret ever having such a stupid standard
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 06:20 PM
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Which is why I don't get when women complain when they're told to choose better instead of expecting men to hold these abusive men that they're so attracted to. Like your partner is the only family you get to choose, performing due diligence is simply par for the course
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:52 PM
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It's an effort to deflect from the truth being laid bare
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:50 PM
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Idk, take a look at all the men with multiple baby mamas and look at their histories and come back to me, and tell me if they don't fit the stereotype
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:39 PM
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Don't women write literal love letters to serial killers? Just the fact that bullies tend to get more sex on average should be proof enough
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:27 PM
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There's very few women in the world who wouldn't be turned on by the man described over. All the womanizers in the world are basically made from that blueprint. It's almost like some cosmic joke
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:20 PM
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Most women don't gravitate towards those men. The books they read and mustarbate to, paint a very different picture. The "bad man" archetype is how men make themselves feel better about not being chosen. I mean, sure. We can go with that. All humans under 25 are drawn to risk, rebellion, and danger. This is strictly a female fantasy. Men have been dreaming and fantasizing about sheltered virgins since time immemorial No, you're describing a caricature. We both know why you are hung up on this
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:17 PM
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You admit yourself that “bad men” are just more exciting in fiction because they embody thrill, chaos, and rebellion. That’s the exact same thing they offer in real life. The only difference is that in movies the camera cuts away before the hangover, the cheating , the dv, the abandonment, the broken trust, and the custody battles. But in both cases, the draw is excitement. Women aren’t being tricked into these toxic and or abusive relationships, they’re choosing them. Which is why a lot of dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:15 PM
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Sure, art exaggerates, but exaggeration doesn’t work unless it’s rooted in something real. Damon Salvatore, Chuck Bass, Christian Grey, pick your poison, they resonate with audiences because they’re dialed-up versions of men women actually gravitate toward in real life. If it was pure caricature with no truth behind it, it wouldn’t sell, it wouldn’t stick, and it wouldn’t get fanbases writing hundreds of thousands of fanfiction and defending these men like their lives depend on it. They've liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:59 PM
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I think there's this false idea that there are two types of men. But in reality there aren't there are so many different types and some are just better at everythin Introversion/Betaness/Shyness isn’t a halo. But society’s instinct that shy types are ‘safer bets’ isn’t pure bias either, it’s an evolved, experience-driven recognition that someone terrified of social shame is statistically less likely to burn the house down. its true that shyness/introvertion is morally neutral, it doesn’t magical…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:53 PM
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Can you answer the question about what makes a man a bad man Bad would be men that are more likely to be cheaters, liars, manipulators, deadbeats, jerks, assholes, basically men who prioritize their own interests even at the expense of the woman The bad man isn’t just some edgy dude with a motorcycle and tattoos. The bad man is just the guy who encourages all her worst impulses, like leaving school because fuck it, drink like crazy, drive like maniacs, have crazy raunchy sex together, sneak to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:48 PM
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I mean art does imitate real life afterall that's the entire point. Basically is just a self insert of the very abusive men that routinely take advantage of women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:47 PM
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Maybe we shouldn't look to someone who has been accused of sexually harassing employees for life advice Sometimes a broken clock is right twice a day
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:36 PM
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How are you defining "bad men? Bad would be men that are more likely to be cheaters, liars, manipulators, deadbeats, jerks, assholes, basically men who prioritize their own interests even at the expense of the woman The bad man isn’t just some edgy dude with a motorcycle and tattoos. The bad man is just the guy who encourages all her worst impulses, like leaving school because fuck it, drink like crazy, drive like maniacs, have crazy raunchy sex together, sneak to go smoke some pot, he fuels her…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:35 PM
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Lmao. Judging by the men who get posted on TikTok by their gf's and wives. I highly doubt that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:17 PM
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Without the so called sweet guys, feminism would have never succeeded. And deep down we all know that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:16 PM
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Refusing to give up seat for a pregnant woman or watching on the sidelines as a woman gets graped or beaten to death doesn't seem very moral to me but what do I know
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 04:11 PM
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I believe the reason women don't want to talk about it is because they know deep down of they admitted it, that will be the death of decent nice guys/hopeless romantic dudes. They'll be an uptick of bad men roaming around. Women need nice guys even if they are not attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:11 PM
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I barely see men holding the door open for women these days, or singing love songs about women like they used to do in the 90s and 2000s. I was at a train station the other day and there was a pregnant lady there, no mam gave his seat up for
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:02 PM
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I believe it has a little do with something Sheryl Sandberg said....Sheryl Sandberg hit the nail in the headwhen she says... "Look, the unfortunate truth is that the qualities that make for a good husband and father aren't exactly exciting to date particularly for a lot of women before they reach a certain age"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:59 PM
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Idk what's so funny
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 12:50 PM
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You think I'm being edgy? This is just I simply am. Of I don't like something that you do, I won't waste time tryna show you why what you're doing bothers me, I will simply just do something that will make you think twice next time you do something that would make a man you're with uncomfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 11:36 AM
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Not really insecure. Just punishing her for her mistakes so that she can do better with the next person that she gets
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 11:00 AM
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But that’s not what this discussion was about. It was about calling single women undatable if they have other single women as friends. But that's the issue. Single women do like male attention and validation so your girl being friends with such women is definitely a recipe for disaster
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:02 PM
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Isolated is probably the wrong word. It's more like a who doesn't much care for male attention and validation
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:09 PM
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Present Caring Men have been on the decline ever since Men found out that there are some men who don't have to offer anything and still sleep with women. This is what they call getting redpilled. Ain't no way most men would be caring partners if they knew other guys don't have to and still get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 10:20 AM
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I meant unless relationship guys are the ones getting laid the most, you are gonna have a serious problem. If effortless sex is on the table, guess what most men aren't gonna bother to learn the qualities that make for a good partner and husband when women have no problem being just being warm bodies for men who put in no effort. If you want a society with present Caring partners, casual sex has to go
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 10:10 AM
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what happens when that friend who was in a LTR is now single and wants her friends to join her at clubs or bars so that she can meet the next LTR? Why would you date someone who has friends like that seriously? If her friends are this type, then odds are your gf is supposed to be a temp gurl for you too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 09:58 AM
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woman you want to date going to have any friends? A woman without any friends is probably a plus
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 09:55 AM
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Again, if this single woman wants to celebrate her birthday by going out dancing There are other ways of celebrating. Personally if she insisted on, I would let her but slowly start detaching and probably cheat on her as some kind of lesson so that she'll know some things are a recipe for disaster on her next relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 09:53 AM
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There's just something horribly humiliating being called husband material by a woman with a history of casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 09:47 AM
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"The men who have exactly what women want and are attracted are also the least likely ones to give it to them that's why women's preferences changes with age." ~Sheryl Sandberg
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 09:38 AM
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Idk, it just seems like the connection would mean so much less when you realize she had no problem just being a warm body for some hot guy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 09:33 AM
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Well unless women stop sleeping with such guys I'm afraid men will never hold each other accountable. Toxic men are simply a case of demand breeds supply. If hot assholes are preferred for short term sex, you really are gonna have a huge problem on your hands
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 09:32 AM
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I don't even remember the names of a few of those guys because they were completely irrelevant to me. I think most men just wonder why waste tike with such guys when you can simply just hookup with husband material guys
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:32 AM
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Why not just stick to sleeping with relationship material guy always instead of wasting time with the hot toxic dude, unless ofcourse the sex guy is just so god-damned sexy you can't help yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:26 AM
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You assume that thats a compliment. Odds are date guy would be grossed out with you being ok with just being a warm body for some guy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 02:23 AM
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I mean considering how many times women claim to want good men, I'd expect anti heroes to barely get any fangirling. I mean you can like an evil character and still not romanticize him or want him to end up with the female lead. But if you've been in fandom or engaged in any fictional ship war, you slowly realize women tend to root for the antihero to get the girl in the end while men tend to like anti heroes they typically prefer it when the hero gets the girl. I remember there was a thread on …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 07:04 PM
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A lot of the men who say that women always choose bad boys don't actually have any male friends, and would probably do themselves some good if they tried making some I don't think that's always true. Most womanizers are actually not so good. And when ppl say this, they mean the kind of man who would force her to get an abortion whether she wants, the kind that would manipulate her into a situationship, the kind that would cheat on her with multiple other chicks. These are the guys, that are succ…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:10 PM
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I wasn't saying women pick the literal villain who wants to destroy the world. I was talking about when women have to choose between the safe “good guy” hero archetype and the rebellious “bad boy” rival, not the psychopathic bald dude trying to enslave humanity. When the contrast is Hero vs outright Villain, of course the hero wins. That’s not controversial. But in love-triangle dynamics, the Bridgerton gentleman vs the rake, the Harry vs Draco tension, you’ll notice women lean hard toward the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:59 PM
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You're misunderstanding what ppl mean by bad boy. The bad boy isn’t just some edgy dude with a motorcycle and a cute face. The bad boy is supposed to be the one who encourages all her worst impulses, like leaving school because fuck it, drink like crazy, drive like maniacs, have crazy raunchy sex together, sneak to go smoke some pot, he fuels her need to not want to be confined by human/societal rules anymore, be more susceptible to darkness(darker urges/illicit things in life). He’s the enabler…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:53 PM
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Villains are more interesting and fun Maybe that's true for real life too and that's why some women flock to them.I genuinely believe there could be something really sexually off putting about a good decent man, that or, quite a lot of women are attracted to the wrong things. It reminds me of Sheryl Sandberg's most infamous truth bomb... "Look, it's unfortunately the case that the traits that make for a good husband and father aren't particularly exciting to date particularly for a lot young wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:45 PM
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Only when the hero isn't pitted against a bad boy. If you watch any love triangle show. You realize that women almost always flock to the bad boy. there was an explosive thread about this on r/unpopular opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:29 PM
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I mean, I just think it's a little telling that they fangirl over bad men in fiction over good men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:06 PM
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Don't you think if women liked good men, their fictional tastes would reflect that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:37 PM
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Because single mothers strike at the heart of the nice guys finish last phenomenon. Just think about it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:05 PM
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Hard disagree. I genuinely believe there could be something really sexually off putting about a good decent man, that or, quite a lot of women are attracted to the wrong things. It reminds me of Sheryl Sandberg's most infamous truth bomb... "Look, it's unfortunately the case that the traits that make for a good husband and father aren't particularly exciting to date particularly for a lot young women, this is why women's preferences change with age. The men who have exactly what women want and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 10:59 AM
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I genuinely believe there could be something really sexually off putting about a good decent man, that or, quite a lot of women are attracted to the wrong things. It reminds me of Sheryl Sandberg's most infamous truth bomb... "Look, it's unfortunately the case that the traits that make for a good husband and father aren't particularly exciting to date particularly for a lot of young women, this is why women's preferences change with age. The men who have exactly what women want and are attracted…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 10:57 AM
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They are doing it to punish women. That's all it is. Most redpill dudes are reformed nice guys/safe options/beta bucks. The hope is that by making men redpilled, the pendulum can shift and women will start picking the nice guy over the hot toxic dude
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:39 AM
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Why is this relevant? Because either extreme is unattractive and I'm tired of this sub suggesting that people who are risk takers with tattoos are all bad boys and the other side is all straight laced IT guys. People with low inhibition, often bold, outspoken, and thrill-seeking, are much more likely to rack up the kind of ‘fun stories’ that double as liabilities: arrests, addictions, gaps in education. Yes, you can be extraverted and dependable, but on a bounce of probabilities, the kid terrifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 10:12 PM
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Who said anything about dating your students? Do ppl not read posts these days
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:30 PM
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That’s the stage where personalities are already well-formed but still raw, unpolished, and authentic. The “Twin A” isn’t yet a washed-up divorcé with baggage, and the “Twin B” isn’t yet the guy with a steady job and a mortgage. It’s the age where choices are guided almost purely by instinct and desire, before responsibilities, careers, or money enter the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:58 PM
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Not choosing as in who themselves, choose as in bet on
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:54 PM
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You're a bystander, and a nosy neighbor wanted to engage in small talk, and asked you which one of them you think lost their v card first?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:54 PM
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I genuinely believe there could be something really sexually off putting about a good decent man like there could be something about being kind that holds them back, that or, quite a lot of women are attracted to the wrong things. It reminds me of Sheryl Sandberg's most infamous truth bomb... "Look, it's unfortunately the case that the traits that make for a good husband and father aren't particularly exciting to date particularly for a lot young women, this is why women's preferences change wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:52 PM
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I believe that the reason women downplay how much attractiveness matters, that will be the end of simpdom. They know that most men operate with conditional Niceness. The fear is that if they admit the truth, there'd be less and less men who are nice and or sympathetic to women's struggles and or causes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:45 PM
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Bitterness, Redpill, nice guys and women's changing preferences The root cause of the bitterness among men, is women's preferences changing over time Women love to talk about how their tastes evolve over time, like one day they wake up and suddenly the guy with the 401k is hotter than the guy with the felony. But what’s really happening is that they’ve had their fun, lived out their wildest fantasies, and now they want the safety net they once rejected. And that’s what pisses guys off, being tre…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:40 PM
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Nice, love the honesty. I think you might be more redpilled than you realize. I think this simple dichotomy is foundational basis behind the redpill movement
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:34 PM
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The question was, if someone held you to a bet about which twin will loose the v card earlier than the other, which twin would you pick and Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 08:29 PM
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Art does imitate real life afterall
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:19 PM
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The bad boy isn’t just some edgy dude with a motorcycle and a cute face. The bad boy is supposed to be the one who encourages all her worst impulses, like leaving school because fuck it, drink like crazy, drive like maniacs, have crazy raunchy sex together, sneak to go smoke some pot, he fuels her need to not want to be confined by human/societal rules anymore, be more susceptible to darkness(darker urges/illicit things in life). He’s the enabler of every reckless thought she’s ever had. He’s th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:47 AM
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The bad boy isn’t just some edgy dude with a motorcycle and a cute face. The bad boy is supposed to be the one who encourages all her worst impulses, like leaving school because fuck it, drink like crazy, drive like maniacs, have crazy raunchy sex together, sneak to go smoke some pot, he fuels her need to not want to be confined by human/societal rules anymore, be more susceptible to darkness(darker urges/illicit things in life). He’s the enabler of every reckless thought she’s ever had. He’s th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:47 AM
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The bad boy isn’t just some edgy dude with a motorcycle and a cute face. The bad boy is supposed to be the one who encourages all her worst impulses, like leaving school because fuck it, drink like crazy, drive like maniacs, have crazy raunchy sex together, sneak to go smoke some pot, he fuels her need to not want to be confined by human/societal rules anymore, be more susceptible to darkness(darker urges/illicit things in life). He’s the enabler of every reckless thought she’s ever had. He’s th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:47 AM
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The bad boy isn’t just some edgy dude with a motorcycle and a cute face. The bad boy is supposed to be the one who encourages all her worst impulses, like leaving school because fuck it, drink like crazy, drive like maniacs, have crazy raunchy sex together, sneak to go smoke some pot, he fuels her need to not want to be confined by human/societal rules anymore, be more susceptible to darkness(darker urges/illicit things in life). He’s the enabler of every reckless thought she’s ever had. He’s th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:46 AM
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The bad boy isn’t just some edgy dude with a motorcycle and a cute face. The bad boy is supposed to be the one who encourages all her worst impulses, like leaving school because fuck it, drink like crazy, drive like maniacs, have crazy raunchy sex together, sneak to go smoke some pot, he fuels her need to not want to be confined by human/societal rules anymore, be more susceptible to darkness(darker urges/illicit things in life). He’s the enabler of every reckless thought she’s ever had. He’s th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:45 AM
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I think the problem is a lot of the traits that women are attracted to in men are pretty counterintuitive
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:41 AM
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Lol, and here I thought women mature faster than me n
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 10:27 PM
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Or you think you'll like the same things you like now when you are 60? I will still like reading books, well into my 60s that's more likely a gurantee
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:58 AM
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People don’t need to crash cars to learn how traffic works, and they don’t need to binge drink to understand alcohol. Treating reckless behavior as some kind of necessary rite of passage is just romanticizing immaturity.The straight-and-narrow kids learn the same lessons by observing rather than self-destructing, and they enter adulthood without having to waste years undoing damage. If partying were truly “healthy,” people wouldn’t have to quit when the stakes get real. They’d carry it forward t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:54 AM
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Nobody wakes up at 27 thinking, “Man, I’ve really matured past reading books or hitting the gym.” Those things scale with age because they’re genuinely positive. Partying doesn’t, because it was never actually healthy or productive in the first place. The fact that almost everyone “grows out of it” isn’t proof that it’s normal, it’s proof that it wasn’t sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:30 AM
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, all our options dry up lmao Props to owning reality, I have to give credit where it's due. The claim isn't that your options run out, it's that the pool now becomes a mess of guys you don't find attractive. This is why women often complain about dudes wasting their years when they take too long to propose.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:26 AM
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Nobody wakes up at 27 thinking, “Man, I’ve really matured past reading books or hitting the gym.” Those things scale with age because they’re genuinely positive. Partying doesn’t, because it was never actually healthy or productive in the first place. The fact that almost everyone “grows out of it” isn’t proof that it’s normal, it’s proof that it wasn’t sustainable. I could be wrong tho
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:22 AM
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Drinking every weekend and hopping from club to club isn’t some universal rite of passage, it’s just one lifestyle choice people romanticize. Plenty of young people build businesses, travel, volunteer, or work on themselves instead of blacking out at 2 AM. Acting like you’re supposed to party because you’re 20-something is basically saying immaturity is mandatory. Growth doesn’t have an age restriction, and recklessness doesn’t magically become “character building” just because you’re under 30. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:20 AM
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But you’re kind of proving my point there. If it was just harmless fun, why did it have to stop? People don’t ‘grow out’ of genuinely healthy habits, they carry them forward. You don’t have to quit exercising, reading, or building skills at 27 because they suddenly become miserable. The fact that partying eventually feels hollow, exhausting, or even destructive suggests it wasn’t a positive lifestyle to begin with, it just took time for the costs to catch up. Sure, you got memories, but you also…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:16 AM
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But you’re kind of proving my point there. If it was just harmless fun, why did it have to stop? People don’t ‘grow out’ of genuinely healthy habits, they carry them forward. You don’t have to quit exercising, reading, or building skills at 27 because they suddenly become miserable. The fact that partying eventually feels hollow, exhausting, or even destructive suggests it wasn’t a positive lifestyle to begin with, it just took time for the costs to catch up. Sure, you got memories, but you also…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:15 AM
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But that analogy doesn’t really hold up. Outgrowing Legos doesn’t come with a jail record, a drug habit, or a custody battle if you ‘play’ too long. A lifetime of Partying is a behavior with real risk factors, it’s not just a neutral childhood stage you grow out of automatically. A woman will date a party guy then gets shocked when he spends family money on alcohol and strippers. Basically it seems like to women, they approach dating as like, let me get this guy who cheats to not cheat on me. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:12 AM
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Considering how often women get told “you should’ve chosen better,” doesn’t that kind of suggest these guys you’re so determined to defend were never good choices in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:06 AM
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If the 'wild years' were truly healthy and sustainable, why does almost everyone abandon them once real responsibilities show up? The fact that people have to grow out of that phase, rather than stay the same shows that the nerdy straight and narrow types had it alright without needing to grow out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:02 AM
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Isn't the fact that they abandon their ways actually reinforcing the point that there was something wrong with how they were living otherwise they would stay largely the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 12:59 AM
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We grew up implies that there was something wrong or negative with how you were living that's why you to grow out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 12:58 AM
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Don't you think if being wild was a good thing, then ppl would stay largely the same? Why bother being boring later on, if being wild is the cooler, more superior thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 12:57 AM
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You're sidestepping her point. Her point is basically that the same inhibition which makes guys less “fun ” at 18 also tends to make them more reliable later and that women’s shifting preferences implicitly reflect this. Which also explains why men never hold bad men accountable, because if she's right, then toxic abusive dudes become simply a case of demand breeds supply. Which is also why men aren't entirely wrong when they tell women they should've picked better. Women's preferences shifting …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 12:54 AM
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So do you then think Sheryl Sandberg hit the nail in the head when she says... "Look, the unfortunate truth is that the qualities that make for a good husband and father aren't exactly exciting to date particularly for a lot of women before they reach a certain age"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 12:27 AM
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I think you’re underestimating how deeply high social inhibition shapes life outcomes. This isn’t just about personality quirks, it’s a consistent behavioral pattern that starts early and compounds over time. You’re treating having a stable high paying job as if it appears out of thin air, disconnected from personality traits, when in reality, it’s almost always the result of long-term behavioral patterns rooted in high social inhibition. High-inhibition people live in constant self-monitoring. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 12:20 AM
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Sure, but if if she had to choose and it came down to the two uggos, I genuinely believe she'd pick the bold aggressive ugo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 11:36 PM
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Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:50 PM
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Don't you think it's a little telling that they are exes now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:42 PM
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I think if an attractive man was kind and non-aggressive it'd be very hard for her to get turned on by him. I think there's just something about kindness and gentleness that really fucks with women's libido perhaps through no fault of their own
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:37 PM
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You’re absolutely right that shyness is morally neutral, it doesn’t magically make someone a saint. But if we’re talking behavior on a probability curve, it does change how likely people are to act on their worst impulses. The core trait here is high social inhibition. People who are shy or socially anxious care deeply about what others think. That fear of judgment is a governor on their behavior: it makes them triple-check their actions, avoid drawing negative attention, and steer clear of over…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:27 PM
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Because boldness often goes hand in hand with not giving a fuck about what other ppl think, which makes it easy to cross ppl's boundaries like that. People who are bold, loud, or ‘unfiltered’ tend to care less about offending others. That makes them more fun sometimes, sure, but it also means they’re statistically more willing to break taboos or push boundaries if it suits them. while shy/quiet people tend to be high in social inhibition fear of judgment. That fear can make them less likely to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:03 PM
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Will unattractive men get the ladies if they start acting like assholes? If he's competition is timid decent ugly guy, I think it's safe to say that most women would rather have a man that's low-key toxic than be with a spineless pushover that treats her like a princess
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:53 PM
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Personality traits influence behavior in predictable ways. It’s not about ‘venerating introverts,’ it’s about recognizing that shy/quiet people tend to be high in social inhibition and fear of judgment. That fear can make them less likely to do socially reckless stuff, not because they’re saints, but because they hate conflict and embarrassment. Meanwhile, extroverted or bold personalities tend to be lower in that inhibition. That’s great for confidence and charm, but it also makes boundary-cros…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:51 PM
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There’s this weird mindset where people think Quiet/Shy It’s not that shy or quiet people are automatically angels. It’s that shyness almost always comes with a high sensitivity to other people’s judgment. If you’re always worried about how others see you, you’re less likely to do openly cruel or socially risky stuff, like leaking your girlfriend’s nudes in a group chat and laughing about it, which is something that would come very easily to someone who doesn't care about offending others. Psych…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:46 PM
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It's interesting how women are attracted to pretty counterintuitive things. The type of guy you describe is also the type of guy who would leak her gf's nudes in the group chat and have a laugh with the bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:41 PM
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I mean that's the only thing that explains women's preferences Change with age. Look, I know this gonna sound fucked up and it probably is, but what a lot of women don't seem to get, is toxic dudes are a case of demand breeds supply. If women overwhelming preferred decent men, toxic dudes would practically go extinct over night
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:33 PM
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I think Sheryl Sandberg said it best, "Look, the traits that make for a good husband and father aren't particularly exciting to date particularly at a young age for quite a lot of women, just look at the books they read. Men who have everything that women want and are attracted to are also the least likely ones to give it to them, this is why women's preferences change with age."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:28 PM
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turdblossom she will walk away and not look back. Way too many women have been in abusive relationships for this to be true
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:23 PM
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You wouldn't date the 304. We wouldn't date the asshole. So you'll settle for the nonasshole who you are not really that attracted to then wonder why men want mandatory paternity tests?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:19 PM
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Kindness matters to the woman who is mutually attracted to u so the interaction progresses into a relationship. I think a case can be made that kindness often triggers maternal instincts in women which is why women generally friendzone the men they find polite and non aggressive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:42 PM
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Again, statistically a tiny portion of women cheat but any woman can get pregnant and risk death. You and I both know that is not the reason women support abortion. I think it very much is. Abortion is often because of unwanted pregnancy. What screams unwanted pregnancy more than a fetus sired from an affair? Really, show me where I said, "Women are pro-abortion so they can cheat on their husbands" You said cheating women won't paternity fraud their husbands because they have abortion to fall ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:11 PM
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You've...you've got to be absolutely fucking kidding me right now. You're lost in the sauce bud. It's sad and concerning. I mean, you basically admitted it in your comment tho, so I don't get why you're acting all surprised. Without abortion access, it means a woman is more likely to have her infidelity discovered because a kid would result. And I'm not sure if you know this, and it's gonna sound funcjed up and it probably is, but a lot of cheating ppl don't like using protection, I rent out Air…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:00 PM
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Cheating is one thing, making another man raise a kid thst isn't his is another. That's the heinous part. Most women do not have it in them to intentionally mislead a man when it comes to this, because it hurts the child just as much if not more. Most people who cheat, do it because they plan on keeping it to themselves what makes you think they would tell their husbands? It's actually one of the main reasons women are fighting for abortion rights, to be able to cheat and abort the kid if it res…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 06:38 PM
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What reaction The most interesting take away from this discourse, is how close it relates to the women-are-wonderful effect. See, if women truly wanted to be treated as equals, as human beings, they’d embrace accountability the same way men are expected to. Humans make mistakes. Humans lie. Humans deceive, sometimes intentionally, sometimes in ways they justify to themselves. But the way women respond to the mere suggestion of a paternity test tells a different story. It suggests they don’t want…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 06:29 PM
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So non-western countries What difference does it make or are they not human to you? And the only country I've heard that does that is France. Have you been to France? If you have you'd totally get why the govt would ban paternity testing. Ppl there are promiscuous asf. Just like it would sour your feelings if your wife accused you of something heinous. Why call it something heinous as if it's this rare occurrence? Ppl cheat everyday, it's not as rare as you think it is. No one is above cheating.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 06:27 PM
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you think most women cheat and worse, capable of raising a child to believe their father is someone he is not-especially heinous Unfortunately yes, it's the only thing that explains their reaction toward paternity tests. You think most men would murder their girlfriends/wives for cheating I'm currently on a safari, in a few African safari's, and I have stayed in Kenya for quite some time now. In most if these 3rd world countries, discovery of infidelity almost always leads to certain death or se…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 06:14 PM
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But here’s the thing, what you’re describing is what a lot of guys see as a “bad guy” in the dating world, and it’s not just about being a little bold. From a guy’s perspective, the “good guy” is often this meek, overly respectful, straight-laced dude who’s lways walking the straight and narrow and probably doesn't do any drugs, think Stefan Salvatore, always playing by the rules, putting others first. Many men feel they have to ditch that to get noticed, and that means leaning into a morally gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 05:34 PM
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I guess you are a flawless angel who could never possibly do any wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 03:57 PM
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Can you explain then why every male lead in a steamy romance is always an asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:31 PM
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Is it really? Then what's up with all the mafia books that women consume?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:29 PM
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The bad boy isn’t just some edgy dude with a motorcycle and a cute face. The bad boy is supposed to be the one who encourages all her worst impulses, like leaving school because fuck it, drink like crazy, drive like maniacs, have crazy raunchy sex together, sneak to go smoke some pot, he fuels her need to not want to be confined by human/societal rules anymore, be more susceptible to darkness(darker urges/illicit things in life). He’s the enabler of every reckless thought she’s ever had. He’s th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:25 PM
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If you have time, search paternity tests on the subs search bar then get back to me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:18 PM
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why are you getting with someone you think will cheat on you? Desperation isn't a valid excuse to me.. Well because you don't really have any other option. Unless you are willing to make the case that most women are flawless angels who would never do any wrong. How can you be confident that you know something, when others have had the same level of confidence and been completely wrong about it? It's not a question that is limited to paternity/divorce. The same thing applies to women who were con…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:17 PM
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Paternity fraud is roughly 3.7% in the west. It doesn't account for all the unsuspecting men who never go to question it. The overall point is this, govts will never approve mandatory paternity tests, because they know so many women would end up dead
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:10 PM
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There's threads talking about Mandatory paternity tests all over this sub, women's reaction is actually why the topic keeps getting brought up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:08 PM
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I mean that's exactly what all cheaters say, it doesn't really mean much
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:07 PM
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Toxic guys are simply a case of demand breeds supply. This is actually the sole reason men don't hold other men accountable. Because In a world whe re the toxic guys gets one night stands while the timid pushover gets friend zoned. Men really can't hold other men accountable. it's a vicious cycle, women (perhaps through no fault of their own) tend to create the very men they love to complain about. I tend to believe that most men are born predisposed to be romantics and then spend their teen and…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:07 PM
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Just read female centered fiction. It becomes exceedingly clear why they gravitate towards toxic dudes. I think Sheryl Sandberg said it best, "The qualities that make for a good father and husband aren't particularly exciting to date particularly at a young age."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:01 PM
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Just read female centered fiction. It becomes exceedingly clear why they gravitate towards toxic dudes. I think Sheryl Sandberg said it best, "The qualities that make for a good father and husband aren't particularly exciting to date particularly at a young age."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:00 PM
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Nah, there's a reason govts don't like paternity tests. Deep down we know that so many women would end dead, killed by their husbands if paternity tests ever became mandatory
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:58 PM
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I mean isn't this thread itself proof that quite a lot of women would not be in favour of mandatory paternity tests
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:56 PM
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Research consistently shows that a non-trivial percentage of adults cheat, estimates range from 30–45% in committed relationships, depending on demographic and cultural context. Incentives include sexual desire, emotional dissatisfaction, opportunity, and status signaling. Child sexual abuse by fathers is Statistically extremely rare. According to CDC and WHO data, intra-familial abuse occurs in a minority of cases, with paternal sexual abuse far less frequent than maternal or non-parental abuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:55 PM
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That analogy doesn’t hold up. Cheating is common; there are real incentives, desire, opportunity, or the pursuit of something better. Men sexually abusing their own children, on the other hand, is extremely rare and offers no rational incentive. A paternity test is a simple, factual step to protect against a realistic risk. Accusing someone of child abuse is an extreme, emotionally charged claim with devastating consequences. What incentives does a father have for sexually assaulting his kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:49 PM
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What did y'all just watch Maury all day long as kids or what? This is pretty rare in the grand scheme of things. Considering women's reaction to it, it doesn't seem as rare as you claim. I genuinely believe that the reason most women are against mandatory paternity tests, is because deep down they know how many women would end up dead, killed by their husbands
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:44 PM
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Risk divorce? So what. If you suspect your partner is a psychopathic cheating whore willing to lie to you then you shouldn’t care about a divorce. Why are you staying married to someone you actually believe capable of that? Divorce is the answer. I think it's the case that most ppl who argue for paternity tests, generally believe that trusting someone doesn't necessarily make them infallible. Everyone is capable of anything under the right circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:42 PM
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Being offended by a paternity test, is actually a really huge red flag. It shows how incapable you are of putting yourself in someone else's shoes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:41 PM
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Quick question, practicality aside, do you support mandatory paternity tests
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:38 PM
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Trp tells them that the qualities that make for a good husband and father aren't particularly exciting to date
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 05:16 PM
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Can you explain why their fictional preferences rarely reflect that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 05:15 PM
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I don't know about that. I think there's just something about kind men that is not compatible with sexual attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 01:09 PM
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I’m not saying ‘treat people like garbage unless they sleep with you,’ I’m saying human nature works on reward signals. If the guys who are charming but toxic keep winning, while the guys who play fair get overlooked, you’ll inevitably see more guys leaning toxic. It’s supply meeting demand. We already do this everywhere else, if society rewards corruption, you get more corrupt politicians. If flashy scammers get admiration, more people scam. But somehow, when it comes to dating, we act like inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 06:56 AM
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However, if your only motivation to be a good person is contingent on receiving sex, maybe you’re not actually as decent of a person as you think you are. I mean at the end of the day morality is subjective anyway, people operate on incentives. If the decent good guy is getting friend zoned, you're gonna have a huge supply of toxic abusive men. It's simple economics
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 10:05 PM
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I think what they are saying without saying is, toxic abusive dudes are a case of demand breeds supply. And you can't really expect men to hold each other accountable, if the somewhat decent guy is the getting friend zoned while the low-key toxic jerk is the one getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 10:02 PM
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I think what they are saying without saying is, toxic abusive dudes are a case of demand breeds supply. And you can't really expect men to hold each other accountable, if the somewhat decent guy is the getting friend zoned while the low-key toxic jerk is the one getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 08:56 PM
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Lol, the world would be a much better place if women just admitted that there's something revolting about a kind man on a sexual level. And men need to be ready to get out of their feelings about that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 08:54 PM
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Why are women so hell-bent on denying the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:42 PM
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Crazy stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:52 AM
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This is the only sub that makes me laugh 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:37 AM
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If women’s fictional preferences skew toward edgy, emotionally unavailable men across genres and age groups, it’s worth asking why. Especially when it often overlaps with real-life dating choices in early adulthood. Pick any book or movie men like to watch, and there’s some seriously horny porny bad girls, not modest good girls along with some hyper violent men. Lol. Loads of men love to watch war movies and play first person shooters. Does that mean they want to fight themselves? Maybe the medi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:06 AM
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You honestly think fantasy represents what people want their life to look like? Yes. Otherwise fictional tastes wouldn't also change with age. Just look at some of the fandom in some of this shows, when the audience is teens they tend to glamorize the bad boy lead but when the same audience grows older they also shift their preferences and fangirling to the more responsible stable guy. If that's not telling idk what is. women want to fuck vampires or werewolves? Fantasy is something to escape to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:03 AM
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I would say hard disagree. In fact media is the best lens to look at human desire. Fiction is simply unfiltered desire. It’s not about what’s right, it’s about what’s hot. Nobody reads a steamy novel or binge-watches a show for lessons on moral goodness. They consume fiction to escape into their deepest and often least politically correct desires. So if women were into kind, respectful, emotionally available men, then the dominant love interests in fiction would look like that. The male leads in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 05:54 AM
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It's kind of like evolution, the traits that are not selected by nature die out. So bad men are simply a case of demand breeds supply
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:00 AM
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That would be true if only men were the gate keepers of sex. I remember being in HS in this friend group of ours, there was this one guy who was always a lady's man, dude prolly had a bodycount of 30 by the time we graduated. The funny thing is he was also kind of low-key toxic, in that Andrew Tate/Damon Salvatore kind of way. And as bad luck would have it, everyone in the group tried to copy everything about him, it didn't help that some of them became successful with the ladies after the fact.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:45 AM
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Maybe the reason men are bad has to do with female-mate selection
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:30 AM
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If that were true we would always see the good guy in every love triangle piece of media be the object of women's attention
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:26 AM
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Interesting view I have almost the exact opposite. I think less bad man get women now than they have historically. I think that is bc most women care more about their own safety and security than anyone else. If that were true, there wouldn't be such a thing as, are we dating the same guy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 07:04 PM
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The guys who think “women” are all dating bad boys are completely uninterested in good girls. Do you think it's the case that there are more bad girls than good girls? Because we seem to notice the same preferences when it comes to fiction. Pick any book or movie with a love triangle between two guys, and you'll often notice the low-key toxic rule breaker type tends to attract more female attention
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 07:03 PM
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I think the issue boils down to the fact that the traits that make for a good husband and father aren't particularly exciting for a lot of women up until a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:59 PM
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I think if we make the case that human decency is owed, there's really no reason to stop it at that, might as well say ppl are owed sex too
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 07:56 PM
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What a way to miss the point
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 07:52 PM
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I just want to dispell this idea that ppl are owed human decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 07:51 PM
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If a random person comes up to you and says ''fuck off you piece of shit'' you would probably find this at the very least unusual, no? I'm not sure why that's relevant. The point is no one owes you shit in this world
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 07:26 PM
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That’s an interesting distinction you’re drawing, between sexual consent and basic human decency. But I’d argue that the same underlying principle governs both: no one is entitled to the emotional or behavioral resources of another person. We understand this clearly when it comes to sex. We don’t ask why someone doesn’t want to be intimate; we just accept that they’re not obligated to provide access to their body. But somehow, when it comes to behavior, how someone treats us,we act as if kindnes…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 07:05 PM
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Oh do tell
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 06:40 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 06:40 PM
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I don't think the difference matters. I just think no one is entitled to anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 06:04 PM
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Either ppl are entitled to everything or they are entitled to nothing. You can't make a case for one, while arguing against others
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 06:03 PM
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Your story is heartbreaking, and I’m not here to excuse real abuse, whether it’s coming from men or women. But what I am challenging is this growing cultural tendency to let people retroactively redefine experiences as abuse based purely on how they feel about them later. And let’s be honest: this flexibility is granted overwhelmingly to women. A guy looking back at a toxic relationship doesn’t get to say “she abused me” without people rolling their eyes or asking for receipts. But a woman can c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 06:01 PM
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Very real question. I don't see a reason why anyone is owed decency or kindness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 05:43 PM
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So entitlement to something hinges on how risky or invasive it is? You do know what that argument would lead when taken to it's final conclusion right
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 05:33 PM
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As the other person said, people are entitled to basic politeness and human decency. Why? Why are ppl entitled to this but bit sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 05:29 PM
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Why are people entitled to basic human decency but not sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:49 PM
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So ppl are entitled to kindness now? If people aren't owed sex what makes you think they are owed kindness??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:40 PM
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Why does that empathy seem to consistently shield women from being seen as morally culpable to the same extent men are?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:29 PM
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Excellent points but I have to say I slightly disagree. Personally, i feel like It’s not that women relate to every bad woman, but rather, that “being a good person” is more tightly woven into the female identity. So when a woman cheats, lies about paternity, or makes a false accusation, many women reflexively look for ways to protect the narrative of female virtue. It’s not just empathy. It’s moral insulation. The story gets reshaped to preserve a sense of female innocence, often at the expense…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:29 PM
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How she treats you, means so much less If she gives it out to everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 05:05 AM
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Lets keep in mind men comit suicide This isn't true. Men and women attempt suicide on nearly similar levels. The only difference is men use lethal force so they are less likely to survive
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:54 AM
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I think it's more accurate to say, the traits that make for a good husband and father aren't particularly exciting to date for a lot of women atleast up until a certain age
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:44 AM
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This is utter mindrot. Nah bro, it’s just anuncomfortable truth. You're describing what should be. I'm describing what often is. If you’re triggered, that’s because you know deep down I’m not wrong. I'm sorry - someone holding these views could be married a woman who begs him to fuck her daily, who begs for his dick, who does things with him she's never done with anyone else... Cool. And that’s fantastic when it happens, no one said every wife is frigid. But I wasn’t describing every woman. I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:12 PM
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Idk plenty of toxic abusive dudes are having plenty of sex. It's the boring software developer with a fat paycheck that isn't getting laid until his 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:57 PM
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All four scenarios ignore the 5th and most realistic one: She did those acts with guys she was really attracted to, emotionally optional guys, no commitment, just vibes. But now she's married to a man she loves but doesn’t lust after the same way. She’s traded thrill for safety. Chaos for stability. She’s not faking the attraction, but it's a different kind, one rooted in comfort, not heat. "Why wouldn't she want to do the same freaky things?" Me: Because those acts were tied to a different ener…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:53 PM
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What if it's less to do with conservatism, and more to do with the idea that chaste women are more deserving of romantic persuit and affection?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:41 PM
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Why would a woman who enjoys certain sex acts not want those in a marriage? I think it's coz lots of women get married to men they aren't all that attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:39 PM
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