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| 1 | CMV: SAHMs should always have an exit planPointing to your improved dating prospects only emphasizes the need for a partner. No it emphasizes that women, understanding the view on family law saw me as a much better candidate because I had resources to share. Resources that would be divided according to family law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 11:17 AM |
| 1 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.If he owned the home prior to marriage and added her name as a gesture of security for her, he got exactly what he signed up for. I really just wanted you to acknowledge the state of feminism teaching women to leave men who don't do this. I think the point has been driven home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 03:30 AM |
| 2 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.Lol, you just aren't getting it. He added her name post marriage. You are just making up fake scenarios now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 02:04 AM |
| 1 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.He isn’t a victim. A lawyer will help him keep his money, she’s only entitled to half of earnings and accrued interest during the marriage. The longer he stays, the more he loses. He put her name on the title of the home due to feminist societal norms. She's entitled to half of the home despite having never made a payment on contribute to it in any way. He's confirmed this with a lawyer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.Most people with appealing and enthusiastic lovers do. I don’t blame anyone for losing faith and respect for a man who hunches her dry body after demanding duty sex. Yeah that was your story from r/DeadBedrooms. I'm not talking about some weird dysfunctional relationship. I'm just saying is a woman isn't interested, she should be seeking professional help. Do you have a problem with a man supporting his partner through her journey of exploring why she's struggling sexually? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.lol, way to blame the victim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 01:30 AM |
| 0 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.If he had a woman with clear and honest communication skills, probably almost immediately. Instead he gets lead on wild goose chases with promises of better results if he does more chores. In all honestly, a lot of women enter marriage because they are done having sex. They are basically fucked out and the trauma they've accumulated makes them associate negative experiences with sex. All for their lucky husband to discover. The truth is if the sex is not mutually gratifying and appealing the wif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 01:15 AM |
| 1 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.Because divorce is such a painful option to men. Take my friend. He was 100% into his wife. So much so he added his wife's name to the title of their home. Why did he do this? Because he thought that's what a man is supposed to do. I mean toxic feminism does tell women that a man is controlling and toxic if he doesn't add her name, so he wanted to prove he was 100% committed an not controlling. Guess what happened next. He found out his stay at home wife just wanted to do nothing except have aff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 01:11 AM |
| 1 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.No one should ever be forced to have sex. Honestly I think the remedy is just to allow men to back out of relationships as easily as women, because the correct answer is that ending the relationship is a better approach than trying to force anyone to do anything they don't want to do. Honestly if men could do this, many women wouldn't try to trick men into marriage by pretending because the men would just leave the moment they realized their wife wasn't really into it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 10:00 PM |
| 3 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.Well I think we agree. There are plenty of reasons why sex doesn't happen. Especially with kids, but also work related, I mean a million reasons. Sex should always be consensual. But what if weeks have turned into months. At what point when you ask are you starting to realize they simply don't want it to happen and they are just avoiding the conversation as to why? When I'm talking about a sexless marriage or dead bedroom why do women always talk about having sex x times a week when the starting… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 08:48 PM |
| 1 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.They key to understanding vows is that they are essentially a list of reasons you are likely to break up. In other words, the wisdom of experience was used to draw forth a list of the things that are most likely to end a relationship, which is exactly why they are the list of things you say you promise to not do. In sickness and in health (people often leave sick partners) for richer or poorer (people often leave partners when broke) In good times and through bad (people often leave during bad t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.Talk to her, if she’s unwilling to change get a divorce. Do you really think a partner that’s trying to manipulate you is going to sit by while you cheat. Men don't really have the option to divorce, they typically bear the financial risk in the relationship and are likely going to get stuck paying for her life. Men and women aren't treated equally in divorce. why is a woman that used to have sex with you not having sex with you? why do you feel that shes using sex to manipulate you? Manipulate … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 07:05 PM |
| 2 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.Yeah I did. I pointed out that that marriage views do imply that sex is going to occur. I don't accept that sex should be used as a manipulation tool by women to make their husband figure out what task he needs to do for her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.There’s no wedding vows that dictate how much sex you have. Did I ignore this sentence? No. I think I responded to it directly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 02:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV: SAHMs should always have an exit planEven at 30, how does anyone build a career and a family on their own? I guess we should just agree to disagree. By 30 I had been making six figures for several years and owned my own home on the water. If you don't think that changed my dating prospects you are delusional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 02:50 PM |
| 1 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.But it is saying that you are there to have sex with each other. Refusing to have sex as a standing behavior that extends over a long period of time is clearly breaking that vow. No one could interpret that vow as 'Well you shouldn't expect to have sex' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 02:46 PM |
| 5 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.I would simply say there's two ways to no longer be monogamous. One way is cheating (sleeping with someone else). The other way is to refuse to participate in sex as an ongoing reality (talking weeks or more like months or years). A couple that doesn't have sex is abstaining, they aren't being monogamous. To me this comes down to divorce laws. No fault divorce is needed but the party not leaving should get say over how assets are split. At fault divorce should be for things like abuse, cheating,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 02:42 PM |
| 3 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.His point is that it's breaking monogamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 02:37 PM |
| 2 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating.There’s not wedding vows that dictate how much you have sex. "To Forsake all others" "To have and to hold" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 02:36 PM |
| -2 | Denying sex in a marriage should be considered cheating."To have and to hold" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 02:35 PM |
| 2 | Should the man tell his partner that he is going to get a paternity test?No, women police this quite heavily. Even though in theory it should be fine, most women will take great offense to this. It's a bit like adding your wife's name to the title of a home that predates the marriage. In theory you are not required to do so because it's not marital property, but women police this by treating a man who doesn't as though he doesn't love her. So most men do so voluntarily, setting themselves up to lose their home in marriage. My advice would be to get an over the counte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 07:05 AM |
| – | Women are lazier when it comes to relationshipsI mean just look at house chores. Anyone who has maintained their house knows how easy they are, but you listen to women tell it, they are like slaves in an orphanage if they have to pick up a piece of lint. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 02:50 AM |
| 21 | Because Only Men Ever Cheat on Their SpousesI'll take things that never happened for 300. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 16/09/24 11:17 PM |
| 11 | This is why we should take false rape accusations seriouslyA cop friend of mine said something that I have no way to verify but he basically said that the majority of rapes aren't reported. That the shock and shame of rape prevents women who have been traumatized in this way from coming forward. What that means is that when he as a police officer is called for a SA case, like 99% of the time (his words) it's a false accusation. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 16/09/24 08:47 PM |
| 1 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?Well they certainly seem to not find them attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?I dunno, you'd have to ask her. I would assume men who work in Walmart would fall into the he's invisible category to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 04:36 PM |
| 4 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?I think the best way for you to understand this is that you likely have an infinite number of men who would sleep with you, the vast majority of whom would bring no value to your life. This makes you weary of men looking to sleep with you. Well men have an infinite number of women who would love for them do things for them without being an intimate partner. Basically wanting boyfriend effort without giving girlfriend benefits. Men learn to be weary of women looking to get to know them. Just like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 04:34 PM |
| 2 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?That's a good point. Both the isolation but also the remote access to seemingly desirably options that are long distance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 03:58 PM |
| 3 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?So basically if a woman isn't down for fucking men don't think she's worthwhile. She would fall in the category of gold digger, looking to add 'Free-meal guy' to her contacts, find a guy to pay off her student debt for her, wanting a guy to pay for trips for her. And yes, women like this aren't worthwhile to seek an intimate relationship with. Honestly I'm not sure that would be surprising to you. A lot of women who like the fun of dating never realize that they remain single because they think … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 03:27 PM |
| 1 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?I mean if you are overweight you could wear a waist trainer, put on makeup, conceal your imperfections, or you could change your life learn to eat right and exercise. One gives you a short term boost to cover your depression, the other eliminates it so you live an entirely different type of existence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 03:22 PM |
| 1 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?Us older people won't be onboard, but time moves on and eventually we will be gone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 03:18 PM |
| 2 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?Why is it so bad to choose to do something that might just boost your self esteem? Choose something that actually improves you, not something that hides who you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 08:35 AM |
| 3 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?This is a common misunderstanding. Men and women prioritize differently based on the challenges they face. Men face a marketplace filled with time wasters and women looking for free meals. So men prioritize verifying sexual access. Only after verifying sexual access to men start to vet for relationship suitability. Women face a marketplace of too many unappealing options. So women first look to see if a man is suitable for a relationship (long or short term). She probably eliminates 90% of men t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 08:33 AM |
| 3 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?How much of our currently dating problems do you think is due to our obesity problem in the west? Do you think the problems came about when average became objectively unattractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 08:27 AM |
| 2 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?God, I just can't imagine the depths of the insecurity that will accompany having to pretend to be something you aren't to be accepted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 08:20 AM |
| 2 | Why do women expect men to...I think you are missing the power component of all of this. When a woman says she's fine but isn't and is expecting you to figure it out, to men the illogic of this approach hides the intention. A women let's you know she isn't happy, but refuses to tell because this is intended to inflict emotional stress. She is feeling bad, she wants you to also feel bad. If you accept her answer and ignore her body language, she interprets this as you not caring and that causes panic. In fact arguably, she's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 08:17 AM |
| 1 | Why do women expect men to...He probably asked and she told him she was "fine". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 08:09 AM |
| 3 | There are going to be very bad social consequences of women making 6-7 figure salaries via sex work.I don't think these rich OF women will struggle to date. Like Madonna, JayLo, and Kate Beckinsale, all of whom are known to date much younger men, they will prioritize looks and fun much like a late teens early twenties woman who still is living on her parents does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 08:06 AM |
| 1 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?It’s not women’s fault men aren’t more selective about wanting a whole Package. No one claimed that it was. Men and women having different dating strategies. Also expecting a good personality and an attractive person really isn’t asking For that much. It's not if you have a good personality and are attractive as well. Attractive people make up maybe 15% of the population. Most people aren't attractive. Most people are average. If you are average and expecting your partner to be attractive you ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:59 AM |
| 4 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?Unless two people met before an opportunity to date, literally every dating app, cold approach, met at a bar situation was based on looks and initial impressions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:56 AM |
| 5 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?I think the end game on this is that men will at some point start to wear make up like women. It would just take some male influencer to kick this off in younger men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:53 AM |
| 1 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?Because that's a baseline. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:47 AM |
| 0 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?Basically a man can make up for being a 7 or 8 with a good personality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:46 AM |
| 2 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?Expecting a personality appears to be unreasonable. Men are always hopeful that their will be a good personality. The reality never seems to meet their hopes unfortunately. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:43 AM |
| 3 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?This requires you being attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:42 AM |
| 1 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?Don't ask me why, especially since so many men are upset about it while having the same standard. I think the surprise is that women are objectively much more visual and have standards that they themselves don't meet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:41 AM |
| 2 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?But why do they expect this when they themselves aren't the total package. As you say, they may have a handful of above average parts and the rest is sort of a mess? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:40 AM |
| 6 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?I'd say it's worse than that. They suggest looks don't matter and that what's inside that counts. Then you literally find out they date a good looking guy with objectively terrible personality attributes. It's the opposite of what they've said. It doesn't make sense until you understand the dual mating strategy. When a woman tells you she likes a guy who's kind, thoughtful, shows up in the relationship, isn't making sexual jokes or seeing things as dates, but wants to build a relationship over t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:39 AM |
| 9 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?In particular because women will often say 'I don't care about looks, I care about if a man has a good heart and is loyal'. And most men take this literally, when it really means, he could be an 8, he doesn't need to be a 10. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:35 AM |
| 2 | Why is there such a significant disconnect between what many women say they want in a man and what they actually pursue?The part of your story you are missing is the dual mating strategy component. You are telling the baker you want vanilla and blueberry because you know he will give it to you without you paying. You know all along you really want chocolate and cherry with the texture of vanilla and blueberry, but that's very hard to find, and the cost of this makes you selective about the chocolate and cherry you will invest in. But if you meet a baker who makes free vanilla and blueberry, all you need to do is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:34 AM |
| 1 | CMV: SAHMs should always have an exit planShe's invested as much into the new life as her spouse. Out dated thinking. When couples married as teenagers or 20 or 21 you could make that argument. No way a guy would have time to build a career and a family without a partner. That was then, this is now. Now women have adapted and wait to see who the winners are. Any marriage past college or lets just say late 20s a woman has a very good idea a man's income potential, and I'm sorry, she didn't build that. She will benefit during their time t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:18 AM |
| 1 | The expectation for men to be completely self-actualized before even entering the dating market is absolutely ridiculous.Maybe you just thought it was normal to bounce between being insecure, focused and disinterested, chill and easy going, to lustful and insatiable. Or maybe you just didn't notice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 07:02 AM |
| 2 | The expectation for men to be completely self-actualized before even entering the dating market is absolutely ridiculous.Hence my point, life isn't fair. The reason why red pill is so important is that it refocuses a man away from chasing women to becoming a kick ass version of himself. Will this result in women? Maybe, as you say, some of it depends on genetics. But would you rather have a kick ass life and be disappointed in women or to be chasing them as more or less wasted effort? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 01:12 AM |
| 1 | The expectation for men to be completely self-actualized before even entering the dating market is absolutely ridiculous.There was absolutely no difference at any time of the month. Then you weren't dating biological women. Women experience a behavioral shift through out the month due to hormones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 01:10 AM |
| 1 | Why do men believe sex is degrading to women? Or they want it to be?Why do men believe sex is degrading to women? Honestly it sounds like you believe this. "Bro. Just fuck and dump her then. Don't take her to the dates. Just treat her like cum dumpster." This isn't them saying they are degrading her, he's basically say take the enjoyment of and stop putting in effort because she's cheating. The sex isn't the punishment. If women don't like the men they are dating or get disappointed how their SO treated her, she would just break up with him. Is this meant to be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 01:09 AM |
| 12 | CMV: males often use the ol "I'm not a mind reader" to excuse their lazinesslol, perfect example of immature communication. Asking once was enough, he went the extra mile of asking a second time before it was obvious she wasn't going to communicate. Her plan to try to mentally torture him instead of communicating like an adult failed. Men, if your partner does this, send her to therapy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/24 09:22 PM |
| 20 | I always fail this shit testI think you turn it around and say 'For the right woman I am definitely ready to be serious, do you think you're someone I should be serious about?' It basically doesn't commit to anything and puts her in a position of selling herself. | /r/seduction | 15/09/24 06:30 AM |
| 1 | Why do they block for no reasonWhy do they block? How can she slap? Men have been asking these questions for centuries. | /r/seduction | 14/09/24 11:57 PM |
| 1 | The expectation for men to be completely self-actualized before even entering the dating market is absolutely ridiculous.The truth is that women have unrealistic standards except 2-3 days a month. So a lot of getting with women comes down to being in their proximity those 2-3 days a month. So you just need to build yourself up enough that you are viable option during those windows. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/24 11:32 PM |
| 18 | Q4M: What goes through your mind when you hear "The sexiest thing a man can do is XYZ"?This is just a way women outsource their lack of sexual desire, attempting to imply that it's the man's behavior that is limiting their sexual desire. If only, he'd do what I want, then surely I'd be sexually attracted to him. It's just straight manipulation, and surprise, surprise, she won't be sexually attracted if you do these things, the answer obviously being that there must be something else, useful, that you can do to chase the elusive arousal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/24 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Women should not complain about being left for younger womanThe default for no fault divorce should be the other party decides how to separate assets. No alimony. Any debts brought into the relationship that were paid off count towards division of assets. There should also be at fault divorce where you can get alimony and more assets based on the other party violating the contract of marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/24 04:37 PM |
| -1 | The expectation for men to be completely self-actualized before even entering the dating market is absolutely ridiculous.Nobody said life was fair. If you aren't born good looking you have to work at it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/24 02:22 PM |
| 1 | CMV: SAHMs should always have an exit planHuh? Why assume her economic situation was worse post-divorce in most cases? I'm talking pre marriage. For most SAHM, their life improved when they got married. Why does a man owe a woman a better life after she leaves than the one she came from? I'd expect her to return to the life she was leading before the marriage. So again, why would looking forward to being a SAHM cancel the financial vulnerability of said situation? If you worked a basic job making $40k, then you marry a man making $150k … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/24 02:20 PM |
| 5 | Communication often defeats the purposeThe truth is communication often doesn't solve important conflicts. It's a good place to start and it can solve trivial conflicts. But for larger conflicts the reality of compromising and possibly feeling like what you loved about a situation is being undermined means that communicating becomes the conflict and usually the solution is to agree tp work on it, which really means, I'm going to pretend we haven't had this conversation, more or less keep doing what I'm doing with maybe minor changes,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/24 11:23 PM |
| 2 | CMV: You should be your partner's ONLY source of sexual fulfillmentI think there should be no fault divorce, with minimal division of assets (leave with what you earned) as well as at fault divorce where they aggrieved party gets to say what they want to do. Just as an affair would fall under at fault divorce, so should denial of sex. Basically give men an out from these horrible relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/24 10:59 PM |
| 1 | anyone else tired of the misandry during US presidential election?That's not how the matriachy we live in sees it. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 13/09/24 01:39 PM |
| 2 | CMV: SAHMs should always have an exit planAnd this cancels the accompanying economic vulnerability in what way? In most cases the woman's life is substantially upgraded. The vulnerability is returning to her life before. The marriage literally was her plan to stop being vulnerable. Filing for the divorce isn't the same as being the cause of the divorce. Look at the divorce rate for lesbian couples. We know women, more often than not, are the cause of divorce. Their entitlement prevents them from seeing the situation in a balanced way. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/24 01:33 PM |
| 1 | Blue pillers and Red pillers agree on somethings, one of which is "The guy has to wait his turn"That wasn't my experience at all. Starting in my late 20s it was kind of crazy. Like a new woman every month crazy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 11:50 PM |
| 5 | CMV: SAHMs should always have an exit planMen step up plenty. Do you know how many men marry because the woman they were dating got pregnant? Men are stepping up all the time. Are there some bad apples? Of course, there's always bad actors, but there are far more unhappy women who didn't get what they wanted from a guy so they make it their mission to punish him at the expense of their kids having a father in their lives. The best answer would be simply to make the father have custody. The single biggest predictor of failure in life is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 09:11 PM |
| -1 | CMV: SAHMs should always have an exit planI would suggest things that allows people to get what they want. Suggestions that fundamentally require them to take an 'L' are dead on arrival. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 09:08 PM |
| 3 | CMV: SAHMs should always have an exit planWell we know it's not the men because divorce among lesbian couples is even higher. It think women are very self focused and see everything they do and keep score but discount and ignore everything their partners do. So in general women always see themselves as over worked, even when it's objectively not the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 09:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV: You should be your partner's ONLY source of sexual fulfillmentWell women should never be forced to have sex, on that we all agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 07:32 PM |
| 1 | CMV: SAHMs should always have an exit planAny strategy that is based on human nature changing is unlikely to succeed. People go for what they want and what feels good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 07:30 PM |
| -1 | CMV: SAHMs should always have an exit planthat's assuming most people follow the advice Which we all know they won't so it's sort of silly to pretend this would solve anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 03:34 PM |
| 3 | The true wall for a woman is fertility. The secondary wall is sexual attractiveness.There are different layers to our brains. Some things we like are societal/learned, others are intuitive. Base level attraction is largely baked in (at the primitive brain level). You can believe what you want, I'm just here to educate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 03:33 PM |
| -2 | The true wall for a woman is fertility. The secondary wall is sexual attractiveness.The system isn't perfect. But that attractive person will be displaying fertility cues, even if she isn't fertile. That's what physical attraction is based on. How do you think species all around the world mate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 03:15 PM |
| 21 | CMV: SAHMs should always have an exit planThis is feminist slanted nonsense. SAHMs often forfeit their careers (sometimes education) to raise children and take care of the family / home. Usually these women are excited for the opportunity to be with their kids, they had dull, uninteresting lives and being a mom is what they always wanted. It isn't easy providing for an able bodied adult, but the rewards for all involved can be tremendous. Given divorce rates, this leaves SAHMs in precarious position should things go south. Divorces are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 03:06 PM |
| -3 | The true wall for a woman is fertility. The secondary wall is sexual attractiveness.No, I'm explaining what people are intuitively attracted to. Inside your reptilian brain is a near instantaneously assessment for reproductive suitability. Symmetry, clear skin, shiny hair, a fit body. It all bubbles up into a cocktail of hormones that make you take pause when you see some one who's attractive. Anyone who's had their breath taken away has experienced this. Anyone who's acted silly under the directions of these hormones is familiar with it. It isn't kinky, it's biology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 02:57 PM |
| -4 | The true wall for a woman is fertility. The secondary wall is sexual attractiveness.He's assuming that attraction is based on fertility, which it is. What is fertile is received as what is beautiful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 01:47 PM |
| 1 | It's more socially acceptable to slut-shame men than womenNah, slut shaming is something women do. Men are usually rewarded by men and women for being successful with women. It's a difficult skill to master which is why it's regarded. Women don't talk publicly about their conquests because other women will look down on them. Honestly, telling many women that a guy is a fuckboi will plant a seed in her head and although she may virtue signal that she's disgusted, she will be curious about having sex with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 01:33 PM |
| 2 | If you are fine driving a used car you should be fine with having a relationship who is settling with youI'm liking this analogy, because I own several cars at the same time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 01:25 PM |
| 8 | CMV: You should be your partner's ONLY source of sexual fulfillmentFor sure, you talk to a woman from say the WWII era and her attitude when approached for sex might be. Well I'm not in the mood at the moment, but give me a minute, pay attention to me, give me some kisses on my neck, I'll try to get there for you if I can. And if you asked why she'd say 'Well if I don't I'd be afraid he'd leave me for someone else'. Feminism, as you said, has reframed this as 'unless you 100% want to have sex, you shouldn't'. Most men gladly give up the excitement of meeting an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 01:24 PM |
| 7 | CMV: You should be your partner's ONLY source of sexual fulfillmentNonsense post. Most risks in sex involve multiple partners, not a husband. Women aren't withholding from their husbands due to risk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/24 01:16 PM |
| 3 | What advice would you give to a young guy who formed the belief that women find bad men exciting to prevent him from swallowing the redpill?I see it more as, you'll simply have a kick ass life and having a kick ass life may attract women into it. It really depends on where you are starting. But it certainly beats moping and being sad wondering why being nice isn't working out for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/24 09:59 PM |
| 0 | How are women able to walk away from a guy so easily?So tell that to OP if that is your opinion. It's not my opinion, I think women are unique in how they turn off feelings, but you are entitled to your opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/24 08:33 PM |
| 4 | What advice would you give to a young guy who formed the belief that women find bad men exciting to prevent him from swallowing the redpill?Why would you want to condemn your son to a lifetime of being a step behind women and always getting less than optimal results. Red Pill's main advice is for a man to take accountability, get in shape, work hard to be successful, not chase women, chase success. What exactly about that advice do you not wish for your son? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/24 07:54 PM |
| 0 | How are women able to walk away from a guy so easily?Women who leave relationships do so because they have Had Enough and are done. This doesn't explain why women uniquely lose feelings. You don't think men get sick of their wives? The major binding agent for men is family law which takes all their money in divorce. If it weren't for that, women wouldn't initiate 76% of divorces. It would likely be closer to 50/50. We are talking specifically about how female love is so conditional and can be ended so abruptly. This is more or less unique to women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/24 07:50 PM |
| 0 | How are women able to walk away from a guy so easily?I mean the Vikings populated Iceland almost exclusively by stealing women from Brittain. I think in native American cultures it was quite common. How do you explain why women walk away from relationships so easily compared to men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/24 06:30 PM |
| 88 | CMV: You should be your partner's ONLY source of sexual fulfillmentThere's two components to monogamy. We don't have sex with anyone else We have sex with each other. If you stop having sex with each other, you are practicing abstinence not monogamy. So your screed is only half complete. I agree you shouldn't be seeking outside sexual release, but your partner also is there to support your sexual needs, that's the part you missed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/24 04:52 PM |
| 4 | How are women able to walk away from a guy so easily?It's an evolutionary trait. If a warring tribe comes in and kills or enslaves all the men a woman would have only a couple of options. Fight back and possibly be killed or used for amusement and then killed, or she can get on board with marrying one of the new tribe and having his kids. The women who were loyal to their core had horrible outcomes. The women who could flip a switch and forget about their old life survived to pass on their genes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/24 02:59 PM |
| 6 | How women train men to be angry (Dr. Orion Taraban)You're doing it right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/24 01:06 AM |
| 45 | Misandry AND historical negationism?Also factually misleading. Katharine Wright helped run their bicycle shop when the brothers were away and also worked to promote her brothers invention to make sure they were credited with heavier than air powered flight. She deserves credit for running the bicycle shop and being an important spokesperson. I'm not sure what credit this person thinks she's deserving. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 10/09/24 07:18 PM |
| 6 | No one, not even women, can actually read the room properlyThe point is the signs are always ambiguous, the power in this is that a woman can recast a narrative that suits her at any point in time. If she's interested, she was giving clear signs, why didn't you respond? If you start talking and she gets uncomfortable with you saying something (maybe the same way her ex did) and she has an ick, she can claim that she was just being polite and you misread those initial signs. So signs are a way of giving women total power in framing and reframing what hap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 05:11 PM |
| -1 | Modern dating problems would be better if people were not okay with sharing.Right, women are the ones who share men, often unknowingly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 03:25 PM |
| 6 | Modern dating problems would be better if people were not okay with sharing.If he says he found some gold plates I'm out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 03:24 PM |
| 11 | There is good reason to not trust men.Just pointing out when men talk about women with trauma. ⬆️⬆️⬆️ This is why you avoid them. the more i interact with and read things on social media the more i dont trust men Okay, sorry you feel that way. Sounds like a you problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 01:52 PM |
| 0 | I’m Soft and Feminine: A Question about being a Walking ContradictionMaybe he has, maybe he hasn't. | /r/seduction | 10/09/24 01:02 AM |
| 5 | South Korea. Women petitioning to recruit boys as Child Soldiers instead of herselves because they don't want to join the army in the situation of a shortage of soldiers.Wow, there are feminists everywhere. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 09/09/24 10:57 PM |
| 1 | The real pill that explains modern dating in the WestWould you even want a woman who wants more to do with you only because she has less power? No, but I don't want her to have enhanced power either. I would just prefer we have a meritocracy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/24 09:32 PM |
| 2 | I’m Soft and Feminine: A Question about being a Walking ContradictionYou sound like the perfect girl friend to these women. They probably tell you everything their masculine boyfriends do with them. | /r/seduction | 09/09/24 02:07 PM |
| 6 | The real pill that explains modern dating in the WestSo do we live in a world where the great source of wealth for women is divorce yes or no? Do we live in a world where there are laws demanding that women get positions over men for no other reason than to balance their representation? And you want to argue that only 10% of women get alimony. btw, is the government not the body that makes these laws? Yes or no? The greatest source of wealth for women is the courts demanding a man give his money to a woman and women get promoted because laws deman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/24 02:13 AM |
| – | Every man should live the fuckboy lifestyle if they can at some pointHaving dated a lot of women I would say yes. But to be clear, I never intentionally played with women or pumped and dumped them. Yes I had high standards and after having sex I often realized they were not what I was looking for, but it's misleading to say I entered into dating them with that mindset. I was just looking for a good woman and found that most aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/24 02:12 AM |
| – | The fear of being used for sex is really about insecurity and validation.It comes from insecurity. That insecurity is derived from her having a much higher sexual market value than relationship market value. She knows through experience that guys don't want to stay due to her low relationship market value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/24 01:09 AM |
| 4 | The real pill that explains modern dating in the WestMost women are not being supported by the government. What would you call a law like SB 826 in California? What about maternity leave? I agree not every woman is supported by the Government or an ex husband, but recreating the education system to benefit girls and promoting more scholarships for women has lead to more women going to college then men. Family law heavily biases towards women. Look at the list of the wealthiest women in the world. Not a single self made woman is on that list, it is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/24 01:04 AM |
| 36 | The real pill that explains modern dating in the WestI think women get most of what they need from society. Almost the entire social safety net is geared towards women. Women can force the courts to make men pay for their lives if they divorce. More scholarships are provided to women to further their education. So we as a society have invested heavily in propping up women to be more successful. It turns out when more successful, women want less to do with men. Maybe we all give ourselves a pat on the back for helping women get up and then we can g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 08:13 PM |
| 3 | Men don't want empathy, they want powerI read your comment history. Yikes. Maybe reflect on your misandry and try to be a better person. Imagine if the response to women clamoring for rights 100 years ago was 'Women don't need our empathy they want power'. Women had legitimate grievances. Men listened and cooperated with the women leading that charge for a more balanced world. Now men have grievances, and they aren't the made up ones about not having sex that you are talking about. Maybe, shutting up, putting aside your priviledge an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 04:33 PM |
| 6 | Misandrist is justifiable. Misogyny isn’t.This sounds like you realized you are misandrist and now are trying to work backwards to justify it. Sorry, it's a bad trait, go work on yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Sex stopping after marriageAnd I'd encourage you to put in a little effort with your partner. Just focusing on if you are happy is only half of the experience. Your partner should actually be happy as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 11:34 PM |
| -4 | I believe women have a personal motivation to lie about their desiresWomen lie more than men because they have more reasons to lie than men. Humans as a group lie about a lot of the same things. We all lie when telling stories to make ourselves look better. We all lie to avoid conversations we don't want to have. We lie if we think it isn't a big deal and we will get some benefit. Those are shared situations we all lie during. Women also have safety concerns. So a woman is likely to lie if she has concerns a situation might escalate. Presumably men would also due… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Sex stopping after marriageI think you've dropped the mask that you expect things and offer nothing in return. Very good to know. Of course people who give also expect to receive. What a shallow, horrible view of men you have that they should be expected only to give. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 04:46 PM |
| – | Why do women high five each other about their CC conquests, yet describe it as being awful and lonely to other men?It's simply virtue signaling. If she thinks you will be more impressed by her chaste ways, she will act like she was chaste. 'I had some friends in college who got into hookup culture, I just knew it wasn't for me'... later you meet her friends in college and find out your girlfriend was leading the charge in hookups. She's saying it for personal gain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 01:55 PM |
| – | Why do women high five each other about their CC conquests, yet describe it as being awful and lonely to other men?It comes from the notion that women are all dating the same men. So they are jumping from horse to horse, the same carousel other women are jumping on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Sex stopping after marriageI understand you don't want to be bound in the relationship. But usually to get something, you give something in return. A lot of women seem to think monogamy is a spigot they can use to turn off and turn on the taps of sexual access for the man in their life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 01:40 PM |
| 1 | The central complaints with modern dating ultimately lie with mediocre menLol, their cherry picked virtue signaling experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 12:55 AM |
| 1 | The central complaints with modern dating ultimately lie with mediocre menI'm curious, do you think what you see on Instagram is real life? Why do you think that? Do you think all of social media is real life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 12:12 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The friend zone goal post keeps movingProbably because she said she just wants to be friends. I doubt guys are saying 'she friendzoned me' if she responds 'I'm sorry I don't think we are a good fit and I'm not interested' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/24 12:11 AM |
| 1 | The central complaints with modern dating ultimately lie with mediocre menI see people on instagram living fake lives. Traveling in a social circle doesn't mean interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 11:54 PM |
| 3 | The central complaints with modern dating ultimately lie with mediocre menJust via obesity alone the majority are unattractive. But physical attraction isn't everything. Most women don't live particularly interesting lives. So if you can't find a woman who's physically attractive nor particularly interesting, then the most you can hope for is that she's kind and caring and isn't entitled. Sadly these traits are also rare. I think most men would like to consider putting minimal effort into ones appearance, being able to carry on a interesting conversation, and not bein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 11:48 PM |
| 5 | The central complaints with modern dating ultimately lie with mediocre meni'm not saying men aren't part of the problem, but seriously I can go months without meeting a woman I think would be a desirable partner. Good women are rare. You could probably say the same for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 11:30 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The friend zone goal post keeps movingThat's what I said. To a man it's him trapped in the friend zone, forced to give boyfriend level effort. To the women it's just friendship, but she likes him because he puts in the boyfriend effort. If he didn't then he would just be a jerk trying to trade being nice for sex. It's two sides of the same coin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 11:15 PM |
| 1 | Sex stopping after marriageMonogamy is two things. We don't sleep with other people. We sleep with each other. If we aren't sleeping with other people or each other that's called abstinence, it isn't monogamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 11:12 PM |
| 1 | Sex stopping after marriageWhat's equal about men dying in war? What's equal about men falling off tall constructions sites doing dangerous work? What's equal about someone born without use of their legs? The point is to offer everyone an equal opportunity if their talent, drive, and ability allows, not to equalize the outcome or the journey. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 11:11 PM |
| 1 | Sex stopping after marriageyou can be monogamous with someone and sexually abstinent at the same time If you both agree to this yes. If one party just does it, they are forcing it on the other party who has not accepted that those were terms of their monogamous relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Sex stopping after marriageI think you have equality turned upside down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 06:37 PM |
| 1 | Sex stopping after marriageI'm not the same person who described it as cheating. I clarified that switching to abstinence is no longer being monogamous. Cheating is one way of being no longer monogamous. Refusing sex is the other. So in reference to r/alebruto's comment, there's been a breach of contract. Marriages are typically monogamous. A person who stops having sex has left a monogamous relationship and is practicing abstinence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 02:35 PM |
| 28 | CMV: The friend zone goal post keeps movingIt seems now that the term "friend zone" now means when someone nefariously keeps you around for their own benefit? FriendZoned has always been a situation where the woman has power over the man because he desires a relationship with her. And as expertly depicted in the skit, this power is wielded to keep the man in place. It used to mean when someone just says "Let's just be friends" to your advances and we're rejected. Friendzone has always left the man providing boyfriend energy and effort to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 02:31 PM |
| -1 | Sex stopping after marriageHonestly I blame family law that puts the entire financial risk of the relationship on the higher income earner. Once married, the partner who doesn't work or earns less no longer needs to perform. That includes sex, being kind, doing any sort of chores. The law has awarded them a victory. Most men's reaction to this is to assume something is wrong that they did and put in more effort. This can lead to years of them investing not realizing their partner is phoning in relationship effort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 02:27 PM |
| 0 | Sex stopping after marriageIt means they've stopped being monogamous. Abstinence is not monogamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 02:25 PM |
| 1 | CMV: What a woman decides to wear has no effect on the amount of unwanted attention she receivesWell it sounds like you are at the thought process stage of thinking this out. Next up would be to formulate a hypothesis, then you can see if anyone has studied this. But on the surface it doesn't pass the smell test. Unwanted sexual attention could refer to virtually any type of interaction where one party feels the other party is giving them attention that is sexually based. You could literally stop and pick up a dropped item and a woman might feel you did so due to sexual interest, which she… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 04:40 AM |
| 1 | CMV: What a woman decides to wear has no effect on the amount of unwanted attention she receivesHow have we gone from unwanted sexual attention from random strangers to an article about bosses abusing their authority at work? Sexual harassment is not the same as unwanted sexual attention. You've conflated these two things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 02:08 AM |
| 2 | debate on percentage of women cheating vs menI think when women are younger their rate of infidelity is quite high, but they create narratives around their cheating to not call it cheating. When women are older they heavily emphasize not cheating in their men because they are focused on their kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/24 01:35 AM |
| 1 | CMV: What a woman decides to wear has no effect on the amount of unwanted attention she receivesWhere is your evidence that those two women will receive similar unwanted sexual attention? I assume you have some study you are referring to? Or is that just your opinion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/24 10:57 PM |
| 8 | CMV: What a woman decides to wear has no effect on the amount of unwanted attention she receivesBy all means, let's teach the men who have never committed these crimes that they are the problem and they need to fix it. Because... reasons.. obviously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/24 10:56 PM |
| 1 | Men: what are some ways that women have treated you "horribly"?Or are you suggesting women should be treated worse than men for some reason? I'm simply pointing out the obvious epidemic of female violence. What's interesting is how these stats are buried unless you look for them. For example, the most commonly cited domestic violence stat is something to the effect of the following. "95% of extreme domestic violence is committed by men". A damning stat to be sure. But then if you are curious like me you ask what does extreme violence mean? It turns out most… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/24 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Men: what are some ways that women have treated you "horribly"?it’s more showing you that men are less likely to fight back or defend themselves or fear that their lives are in danger, not that women are 70% of all abusers, as you want to interpret these stats. Or the more obvious case. Men are afraid that if they defend themselves that they will be perceived as the aggressor. Which I would argue, is a form of psychological abuse. To stand their being abused, with no option other than to take it. Okay, let's keep going with this. Among lesbian couples abuse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/24 03:33 PM |
| 1 | women have an aundance of BOTH casual and romantic optionsIt's not that women don't have issues, it's that men also have all the issues that women do on top of issues that only men have. I would say some issues are exclusive to women, some are exclusive to men, but most issues are shared human issues that aren't related to gender at all. Women have lots of matches, but many of those don't want a real relationship, just some quick fun, and many of the others have incompatible personalities. I don't think this is the right way of looking at it. Both gend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/24 11:07 AM |
| 1 | Men: what are some ways that women have treated you "horribly"?They are less effective and less capable at lethal violence. Yes, they aren't as physically equipped to pull off physical violence. But based on the data, women seem more prone to using physical violence. As you pointed out, people who abuse don't just limit themselves to physical violence, they are also likely to use psychological violence. You stated you weren't aware of evidence that women used psychological abuse more than men, but it's right there with this police data. Women are more physi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/24 03:39 AM |
| 2 | Men: what are some ways that women have treated you "horribly"?I'm just curious, are you aware that according to police statistics, if the police are called for a domestic violence case where only one partner was physically abusive, 70% of the time it was the woman? That's basically 2:1 (female vs male) violence ratio. Do you think women are any less likely to combine psychological violence with their physical violence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/24 10:54 PM |
| 7 | Why is sex such a taboo? Imagine if we could just simply ask the person if they sex like "hey we should have sex sometime?" instead, we play these games and make it complicatedI think the innate drive to ignore the majority of men is built in. As for what they select for, it's less survival focused now because we don't have survival pressures. It used to be a guy who could hunt or who was strong and could defend her. But now it's the same drive just mapped over modern societal needs. Why does a woman date a drug dealer? Because he can get her free drugs. Why does a sophomore date a senior? Because he has a car and she can get invited to the senior prom as a sophomore. | /r/seduction | 04/09/24 04:12 PM |
| 211 | [VIDEO] Why Stupid Guys Get Laid More Than Smart MenI think one of the more underrated aspects of a woman is her imagination. When she's with less intelligent guy who's going with the flow, she can look at him and wonder all the amazing things he might be thinking about, how his seemingly endless confidence stems from being so good at things. A more intelligent guy listens to women and has heard they want to be liked for more than their bodies so he starts asking all these questions and she thinks '....b-o-r-i-n-g'. | /r/seduction | 04/09/24 03:26 PM |
| 8 | Why is sex such a taboo? Imagine if we could just simply ask the person if they sex like "hey we should have sex sometime?" instead, we play these games and make it complicatedWomen select men who are exciting, who enable them, who other women desire. It's pretty obvious stuff actually. | /r/seduction | 04/09/24 03:13 PM |
| 2 | Men: what are some ways that women have treated you "horribly"?They do, just not as often as women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/24 03:11 PM |
| 3 | women have an aundance of BOTH casual and romantic optionsThe bar is on the floor guy. I have browsed men's profiles with a girl friend once or twice to see what their experience is like. In fairness, dating apps sort for different things by gender. For men, they show the most attractive members (as voted by other men). Many of these will be popular, inactive members who haven't yet deleted their profile. They do this so you'll exhaust your swipes and subscribe. The goal is to show you a seemingly infinite supply of the most attractive women. For women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/24 03:10 PM |
| 8 | women have an aundance of BOTH casual and romantic optionsMen's dating is like finding water in a dessert. Women's dating is like finding a needle in a haystack. We just come at the dating market from two different realities and our strategies reflect the realities we face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/24 10:26 AM |
| 4 | Being a woman in your late thirties or forties is not the handicap it used to be. I’ve noticed they’re dating more and more young attractive menWhen I was in my 20s I dated some older women simply because I could. The competition for the more attractive younger women was just too steep. It was purely practice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/24 10:24 AM |
| – | I think women aren't really attracted to guys in their leagueBut toothpick skinny isn't desirable for a man, where as a slim woman is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/24 10:11 AM |
| 31 | Why is sex such a taboo? Imagine if we could just simply ask the person if they sex like "hey we should have sex sometime?" instead, we play these games and make it complicatedImagine if we could just simply ask the person if they sex like "hey we should have sex sometime?" There's noting stopping you from doing this. instead, we play these games and make it complicated Females of all species are charged with the role of selecting which males reproduce. The literal survival of the species depends on women selecting the best candidates. A female monarch butterfly will reject mating with a male who's wing pattern is 1/32nd of an inch out of symmetry (too ugly apparently… | /r/seduction | 04/09/24 10:09 AM |
| – | I think women aren't really attracted to guys in their leagueHonestly in the US, a woman who isn't fat is a pretty high standard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/24 10:00 AM |
| – | I think women aren't really attracted to guys in their leagueObesity rates for men are actually higher Wrong, the numbers are close so it's a bit of splitting hairs but 34.1% of women are obese where as 32.6% of men are obese. So women are slightly more obese, but as I said, the numbers pretty close. Source Statista https://www.statista.com/statistics/237133/us-obesity-by-gender/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/24 09:58 AM |
| 1 | Men: what are some ways that women have treated you "horribly"?Men are physically stronger so it's no surprise if you are abused by one it will involve physical violence. Women tend to be more psychologically abusive, so it's no surprise when hearing stories of psychological abuse it will involve the tools women/girls use. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/24 09:55 AM |
| 29 | Men: what are some ways that women have treated you "horribly"?Lol, goes on a post where men are specifically asked to share their trauma. Immediately tells person to move on. He's fucking answering the question, the literal topic of the post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/24 09:49 AM |
| 34 | If treating your girlfriend badly is treating her like a man, what does that say about the way men are treated?Can you imagine those poor, poor butch lesbians... being treated like men? That's cruel and inhumane no matter how you look at it. | /r/EverydayMisandry | 03/09/24 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Its "Old Fashioned" to expect your wife/Long term GF to do "household chores."Honestly a lot of chores come from personal preference. I know people who don't think cleaning services do proper cleaning or that eating out is good food. They prefer how they do it. The only issue with that is when they do these things that they don't like others doing is when they then assume their part will do it with them 50/50. The partner might be fine hiring a cleaning service or eating out. So they compromise by letting their partner with the passion do what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 01:53 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Hitting "the wall" as a woman should be embraced!Hold on. You don't want to meet men, but you are on a dating app swiping right on men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 08:58 AM |
| 1 | Is male anger towards women just a result of men not getting laid enough?You are talking about something that is well under 1% of normal in the west. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 08:39 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Hitting "the wall" as a woman should be embraced!I think you're missing the point. They won't be attracted to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 05:21 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Hitting "the wall" as a woman should be embraced!Don't worry, post wall your attraction will be based on personality, your skills, and the life you've built. More or less same as a man. Oh wait, maybe you should worry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 04:26 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Hitting "the wall" as a woman should be embraced!A woman with a healthy BMI will maintain value on the sexual market, but as women age there's no question there's a drop in their relationship market value. At some point the majority of their attention is hookup focused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 04:17 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Hitting "the wall" as a woman should be embraced!I think technically speaking, it's men not trying that post wall women experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 04:14 AM |
| 5 | Red pill men, why are you simping for other men?People who are happy and loved don't go around telling people they are happy and loved. That's what cope looks like. I hope you find peace with yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 03:41 AM |
| 3 | Red pill men, why are you simping for other men?Okay, thanks for the positive thoughts dr. Cope. 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 03:40 AM |
| 3 | Red pill men, why are you simping for other men?lol. You are blind man in a dark room feeling around on the floor. Red pill doesn't make one happy or sad, red pill simply turns on the lights so you can see the ground you are navigating. You still have to navigate it, but instead of using blind luck, you can actually easily make changes to improve your happiness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 02:30 AM |
| 8 | Red pill men, why are you simping for other men?You're making a lot of assumptions that aren't backed in any kind of factual basis. You're not happy man. there's no happiness in you whatsoever. You wouldn't even know what happiness look like. You seem prone to projection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 02:16 AM |
| 7 | Red pill men, why are you simping for other men?I'm happy because I choose to be happy. Why are you so insecure and angry? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 02:08 AM |
| 10 | Red pill men, why are you simping for other men?Some serious blue pill cope going on with this one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 02:06 AM |
| 3 | Is male anger towards women just a result of men not getting laid enough?You'd have to ask men from those countries and culture. This isn't a thing in the West. It would just be seen as criminal if it happened. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/24 12:03 AM |
| 1 | Is male anger towards women just a result of men not getting laid enough?What are some examples of male anger towards women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/24 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Ladies, when hooking up with a guy, what’re some tells/signs that he’s inexperienced?He asks you to dress as a pizza delivery girl or for you to get stuck under the couch. | /r/seduction | 02/09/24 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Mainly Q4TRP but also for everyone to discuss: Why empowerment and rise of women and girls is a negative thing and can't we have it another way than left or right/ conservative or progressive reggressivism?I edited it before your response. Honestly you aren't making new points. You just keep saying the same thing as if it will make it more plausible. I simply disagree and I'm not persuaded due to your lack of compelling evidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/24 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Mainly Q4TRP but also for everyone to discuss: Why empowerment and rise of women and girls is a negative thing and can't we have it another way than left or right/ conservative or progressive reggressivism?When you expand the pool of people who go to college, you start to get people without the aptitude for those higher earning degrees. That's the evidence we have pushed women into college. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/24 01:38 PM |
| 1 | Mainly Q4TRP but also for everyone to discuss: Why empowerment and rise of women and girls is a negative thing and can't we have it another way than left or right/ conservative or progressive reggressivism?If there's no discrimination for childcare, why aren't men taking the same amount of time off? I would assume that because a new born requires breast milk most couples pick the mother to take the time off. If the father takes the time off the mother would still be required to pump or they would be forced to use formula. Formula is less healthy than breast milk and pumping would still impact the mother. There's no systemic bias in society that causes this. It's simply the most efficient thing to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/24 01:29 PM |
| 1 | Outside of sex work your "league" is what you can get.Well I don't disagree. I think both genders are delusional. You think men more so, I think women more so. But we agree on the delusion for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/24 01:18 PM |
| 1 | Mainly Q4TRP but also for everyone to discuss: Why empowerment and rise of women and girls is a negative thing and can't we have it another way than left or right/ conservative or progressive reggressivism?It required looking into the data to know. You can't know from the initial data just because there's clearly a discrepancy. When you correct for experience and education there's not meaningful wage gap, so we know it's not discrimination or patriarchy. There's a gap due to having children, but taking time off is no different regardless of the reason, taking care of an aging parent or ill spouse, etc. So again, no discrimination can be found on a second order look. Then when you look across the b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/24 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Mainly Q4TRP but also for everyone to discuss: Why empowerment and rise of women and girls is a negative thing and can't we have it another way than left or right/ conservative or progressive reggressivism?100% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/24 01:09 PM |
| 7 | Are Women Truly Outpacing Men and Is The Often-Cited Claim False That This Is What's Driving Down Marriage/Relationships?I think marriage is dying because divorce is designed to make one partner carry all the financial risk in the relationship, while rewarding the other. So it's just a broken institution. As far as relationships in general in decline, I think it's pretty clear, when given enough resources, it turns out most women don't want to be with most men. This was probably always the case but they didn't have the financial resources to avoid it. So it's just the new reality. We are reverting to polygamy wher… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/24 05:04 AM |
| 1 | Outside of sex work your "league" is what you can get.Dating apps are 75% men, so there is a skewing that goes on. I think an average man sees an average woman and is just confused as to why she seems to think she's a 10 when she clearly isn't. Remember, there's sexual market value, of which women will have value as long as they are interested in sex. Then there's relationship value and those two numbers are almost never the same. This is why women think they are 10s, because they can always give away sex. They mostly are confused as to why they ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/24 04:43 AM |
| 1 | Mainly Q4TRP but also for everyone to discuss: Why empowerment and rise of women and girls is a negative thing and can't we have it another way than left or right/ conservative or progressive reggressivism?Exactly, scholarships for women discriminate against men. Call it a major success for society, we saw a problem, we propped women up, now we can end the support and treat women the same as everyone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/24 04:17 AM |
| 1 | Mainly Q4TRP but also for everyone to discuss: Why empowerment and rise of women and girls is a negative thing and can't we have it another way than left or right/ conservative or progressive reggressivism?Choose meaning what? Don't have a financial access to go? Women fewer women went to college was that because women didn't want to go? What about CEO jobs, are their fewer women CEOs because women choose not to be CEOs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/24 04:16 AM |
| 1 | Outside of sex work your "league" is what you can get.So I'm a little confused, you are basically spitting out Red Pill talking points which I agree with. The only point of contention is that you seem to think there's men who think women are in their league when you think they are not. Generally speaking women only see 20% of men at most as viable, where as men see around 60% of women as viable. So the data makes it pretty clear which gender is more delusional. Women, like men, span the gamut of 1-10 on a rating scale, so 80% of women are delusiona… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/24 04:15 AM |
| 2 | Mainly Q4TRP but also for everyone to discuss: Why empowerment and rise of women and girls is a negative thing and can't we have it another way than left or right/ conservative or progressive reggressivism?More women have the option of going to college. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 03:18 PM |
| 4 | Mainly Q4TRP but also for everyone to discuss: Why empowerment and rise of women and girls is a negative thing and can't we have it another way than left or right/ conservative or progressive reggressivism?We should make them genderless. There are already laws against discriminating against gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.So you'd be fine with it? Great. My truck needs a change right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 03:17 PM |
| -1 | Outside of sex work your "league" is what you can get.People can want whatever they want. They can only have what someone else is willing to give them. A woman smashing a top 5% man for 6 months is gonna change her expectations. I doubt a land whale is getting smashed 6 months by a top 5% guy. More than likely 1 time. Most of the posts of men complaining about leagues, are usually complaining about not getting a match, or a second date with someone who’s “their league” This is primarily referring to online dating, where most men's profile's are lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 03:16 PM |
| 1 | Outside of sex work your "league" is what you can get.Okay but can men get relationships with women who won’t even sleep with them? No. Why are you guys in the same league with girls you can’t even get whatsoever? Who is saying they are? But her real life experience of smashing a man short term doesn’t count? Not as a committed relationship. Women (and men) have a sexual market value and a relationship market value. For women their sexual market value is almost always higher than their relationship market value. Men will sleep with women they would… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 09:43 AM |
| 9 | Mainly Q4TRP but also for everyone to discuss: Why empowerment and rise of women and girls is a negative thing and can't we have it another way than left or right/ conservative or progressive reggressivism?I personally don't have any issue with women's empowerment. Plenty of talented and capable women. I think we can consider the societal institutions we put in place to prop up women as hugely successful and it may be time to start dismantling them as women seem to no longer need to be propped up. As an example, and I can give many. Women have many more opportunities for scholarships and count as diversity entrances to colleges. And more women go to college. Time to level the playing field there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 03:49 AM |
| 0 | Outside of sex work your "league" is what you can get.It's different for men and women. Men verify sexual access first, so women can get with guys higher than them for sex, they just can't secure a relationship with them. They are offered a situationship instead where the guy seeks women at his own level. The sad truth of women always dating up is that men, generally speaking are always dating down. When women "settle" that's when they actually find a man just slightly above them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 10:40 PM |
| 3 | More women need to practice what they preach when it comes to sex and datingOnce you accept that men and women navigate completely different dating markets and have completely different dating strategies because of it most of these double standards become meaningless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 02:25 PM |
| 2 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.No you just complain a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 02:20 PM |
| -1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.But men usually don't make a big fuss and probably don't even bother to list half the things they did. Women will list putting the toilet sit lid down as a chore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 02:18 PM |
| 5 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.So if I want to change the oil in my car and I tell my partner, we don't need to pay for oil changes we can do them ourselves. If she says okay I can expect her to perform 50% of the oil changes by herself? No, she's agreeing to let me have it my way. She's agreeing not to undermine me, she will let me change the oil without taking it to a dealership. It's not that she couldn't get the oil changed. She knows how she would do it, but I've just told her I don't want us doing it the way she would d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 02:17 PM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.A big part of it is that women often want their house or apartment to be cleaner than men do Then it makes perfect sense they would take over that task to do it to the standard they want. The man compromises by not trying to inject his level of cleanliness on her, he accepts her level and allows her to do. Compromise achieved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 03:20 AM |
| 4 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.You aren't really doing a good job of selling the 'women don't complain' narrative. I mean read back your statements. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 03:18 AM |
| -6 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.They probably were just more particular about how things get done. Usually if something bothers one partner more or they one things done to a certain standard they realize they have to do it themselves. Those woman then report on the tasks they take over and conveniently ignore the tasks the men took over because they didn't like how they got done if they asked their wives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 03:17 AM |
| – | The normalization of having your first kid at 35+ is going to decimate birth rates even more, lead to increase autism rates and make things worse for the following generationsThe bottom line is that people who are doing this are being out competed by immigrants who have their several kids in their early 20s. There will just be way more of these immigrants in a generation and if the trend continues the low birth rates will just cause the population with those birth rates to collapse. To be replaced by people who are having kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 01:52 PM |
| 5 | Modern relationships don’t benefit womenIn relationships men get what they truely want: consistent sex. Hahahaha. First sentence, straight to the delusion. Modern relationships cater towards men. Modern divorce certainly doesn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/24 02:29 PM |
| 2 | The problem with modern dating is that women are now in the driver seat but they don’t want to be thereAgreed. It very well could be the case that their ex husbands were pieces of garbage, but I'd be willing to wager just as often the women were the problem. I tell my kids, look, it's like 1/3 of the time it's you, you're the problem. Another 1/3 of the time they are the problem, and the remaining 1/3 of the time you both are the problem. Which mean's 2/3 of the time you are at least part of the problem. So proceed as though there's a pretty good chance you own part of the problem. So when people… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 12:35 PM |
| 1 | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?I think people take what they can get. Today more women work and have careers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 10:13 PM |
| 1 | It is worth sacrificing a marriage for a paternity test.Even do it for married couples. I'm sure most men would want to know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 09:10 PM |
| 6 | Women are teaching you to be a better man. Learning elements of game helps make you the best version of yourself.True, after you date them you do realize you were taken advantage of... by them. That's how you learn. | /r/seduction | 27/08/24 07:38 PM |
| – | It is worth sacrificing a marriage for a paternity test.The obvious solution to all of this is just making paternity tests mandatory. Women's power is in the narrative's they tell, whether that's perpetually finding a way to make themselves the victim of a situation or just pure gaslighting. Women will say 'Why didn't he get a paternity test?' but in their own lives they will tell a man if he gets a test she will take it as an accusation of cheating and never trust him again. This allows her to police the action while simultaneously blaming a man for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 07:33 PM |
| 50 | Women are teaching you to be a better man. Learning elements of game helps make you the best version of yourself.Lol, women are trying to coerce you to do more things for them, that is in no way shape or form making you a better man. In many cases you do the work and then they lose interest, so doing what she asks will eventually lead to the end of the relationship. Now basic adulting things like cleaning up after yourself, better grooming habits, sure those are things you should have learned as an adult already and if she had to tell you then, yes that made you more of an adult, but a lot things like text… | /r/seduction | 27/08/24 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?I think that's true. I see that as, higher earning men who can be providers can afford top tier woman to partner with so that he can have the best family possible. If you can't afford to be a provider you settle for a partner. Then 15 years into the relationship the woman says she's not been true to herself and leaves with no explanation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?And many women remain single and childless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 02:00 PM |
| – | The problem with modern dating is that women are now in the driver seat but they don’t want to be thereWhen things don't work out for men the message is work harder When things don't work out for women the message is you deserve better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 01:59 PM |
| 1 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesYeah sorry, I almost blamed a woman for something, whew, that was close. Don't worry it won't happen again. Just have to keep telling myself, men bad, woman good. /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 02:35 AM |
| 4 | All things considered the best suggestion for men in USA dating wise is to be sociopathicI don't think that's entirely true. Everyone can become more physically fit. Everyone can learn to dress better to compliment their body type. Everyone can learn to be more interested in a broader array of things and become better at conversation. Everyone can learn to be inclusive and engaging in conversation. I knew a 5'7" slightly over weight guy who slayed with women. He had an awesome personally, was funny, was threatened by other men but instead was always complimentary. He liked to live l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 01:49 AM |
| – | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?We are going in circles here. Women who work are providing. I'm saying from a male perspective, a woman who wants to focus on the family is a better situation for you than a woman who also wants to be a financial provider. I'm not saying a woman providing financially is bad, for many people it's simply the best they can attract. I'm just saying as a man there's a better option if you can attract it (and support it). There's nothing wrong with a woman working. There's nothing wrong with someone w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 01:17 AM |
| 0 | All things considered the best suggestion for men in USA dating wise is to be sociopathicI don't think you need to be a sociopath, just realize women have high standards (standards that they themselves can't meet), so as a man you need to be on your grind of improving yourself. Agreed on ignoring women's advice. Women treat different men differently and what they are suggesting will fall under how they see you and what they might want from you, which is very likely totally different from what you want and what you are trying to achieve, so it's just not useful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 01:12 AM |
| – | The problem with modern dating is that women are now in the driver seat but they don’t want to be thereI think dating apps have just exposed that women really aren't attracted to most men. They'd rather travel 2-3 or 4 hours to bang a hot guy in a once a month situationship than date a normal guy next door and this seems to be irrespective of the woman's attractiveness. This has more than likely always been the case, but prior to dating apps meeting people 4 hours away wasn't likely so women chose from the men in their peer circle. Now they can chase fantasy men and clearly are more interested in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?Good for them, here's an 'Atta boy'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 11:28 PM |
| – | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?Are you familiar with money? It allows the purchase of goods and services as well as property. It's kind of important in the West. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 11:27 PM |
| 1 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesYou say the reason that the men who design, build, and maintain the infrastructure do not seek shared custody because you heard they are “discouraged”. I didn't say any of that. I said I've personally spoken with a family law attorney and was told quite directly I had no chance of getting 50/50 custody due to the mother being stay at home. Fortunately things never reached this point for me, but the lawyer told me that here in California it was a waste of money to pursue. In comparing notes with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 11:26 PM |
| 1 | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?Well I'm sure she thought it all through, she's an adult after all. Unless the guy was abusive or a cheater or otherwise broke his commitments, I'm not sure why that would be his problem though. He's got his own life to consider and rebuild and having your life upended, having your retirement account cut in half and losing your house aren't easy to recover from either, but life isn't fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 11:23 PM |
| 3 | Dating apps are hard for womenI'd say at least that many women say that they are looking for a long term relationship. It's meaningless. A good woman will make a man want to settle down and an attractive guy will make a woman hook up who claims she's looking for investment. No real surprise there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 11:20 PM |
| – | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?And what compensates the man for years of providing for the woman? She has reduced income streams until she gets herself a steady job, he has a sunk lost cost of years invested in someone who left. They both take a hit. Why do we only view it as a woman's loss? Providing for another able bodied person can cost in excess of 6 figures annually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 07:30 PM |
| 1 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesI think we should move on. Your reading comprehension makes having a discussion difficult. I say abandoning a marriage, you read abandoning your children. I say fit parents, you take about pathetic excuse. You just aren't able to see things clearly and honestly sound unfit yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 07:28 PM |
| – | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?I'm asking why you think it's unique to women to have to solely focus on their familes and not also men I don't think that. I think a career oriented woman could find a family/child rearing focused man and do similar. It has not been my experience that woman find men like this attractive, but in theory, hey why not. The one exception is maybe the first year when breast feeding is occurring. Mother's are obviously more suited to breast feeding. Pumping and re-warming milk can alleviate this with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 07:24 PM |
| – | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?If you are doing one thing you are not doing something else. If you are working your butt off on your career then it goes without saying you aren't going to be taking care of your kids minute by minute. It's a sacrifice you make as a provider. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 07:20 PM |
| – | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?And if a woman can find a man to stay at home and was interested in that man I'd argue it would lead to better outcomes for her children the same way I think it leads to better outcomes for men who marry women who want to be active mothers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 07:19 PM |
| – | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?Well in that case neither is the man. If they are young they both have time to recover... independently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 07:16 PM |
| 4 | Men really need to stop dating women who can't have orgasmsNo kidding, women don't just fake orgasms, they often fake entire relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 07:15 PM |
| – | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?Okay, what does this have to do with men? Half of everything accumulated during the marriage is hers, what more do you want? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 03:49 PM |
| – | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?Are you suggesting they shouldn't so they can focus on their families? Are you asking if I think both parents shouldn't work and focus on their children? That's not a reality for me so I've never thought about it. I guess if they wealthy and don't need to work I guess it would be great. I don't think it would apply to many though. Are you a sahp? I work from home, and I do some of the child care (picking them up from school). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 03:48 PM |
| 1 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesWow you seem to just like to argue. As always, placing the man at the center of universe I'm not placing the man any differently than the woman. I'm placing them equally. The fact that equal looks like a male centered view to you is telling. instead of putting the children’s needs first Which again you presume is the mother. That isn't a reasonable default. We are talking about the default, where both parents are fit parents. No, you blame men for being too inadequate to both work and raise kids… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 03:45 PM |
| – | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?If a career woman can find a man that does this I would agree. The problem is more career women don't want men like this. But that's a different issue. Yes, having a parent stay at home and focus on the kids is an incredible contribution to a partnership. Men definitely value it, women in my experience not so much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 03:31 PM |
| 1 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesWell it sounds like we disagree. I want a fair family court system where both parents start with the right to have their kids part of the time. You blame men. I guess we just see things differently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 03:26 PM |
| – | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?Sounds like she's making a lot of bad choices from who she married, to why she divorced and abandoned a marriage. People who make bad choices usually have bad outcomes. That's unfortunate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 03:24 PM |
| – | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?Because she will be pouring her energy into her career and not the family. It's not that it can't work, it's just less desirable than a partner who wants to put her energy into the family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 03:22 PM |
| 9 | Men really need to stop dating women who can't have orgasmsI've been with more women than I think it appropriate to mention on reddit. I can think of 3 women I've met who struggled to orgasm. A single digit percentage. Women climax from different things. Some women love oral, some hate it. Some women like PIV by itself, some like clitoral stimulation during PIV. More women than seem to be willing to admit it love anal and have their best orgasms from it. All women are different (as I assume are all men). But I can say with certainty the majority of wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 03:21 PM |
| 1 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesWell you seem to think 50/50 is the default and that men don't receive this because they don't ask. I'm sorry you are mistaken about this assumption. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 03:17 PM |
| – | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?I think you mean after she's divorced. A stay at home partner in a marriage doesn't worry about these things. Half of everything is hers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 03:14 PM |
| – | Question for “traditional” men: Do you recognize that traditional gender roles put women at a disadvantage? If so, does this bother you? Or conversely, do you like the power imbalance?Providing for an able bodied adult as well as children is quite difficult. It's an incredible gift to give another human being. It opens the door for a partner who sees their life's purpose to raise healthy, well adjusted children the option to do so. The courts also heavily protect this non working party (some would say too much, for example if the stay at home partner is cheating, they still are fully protected). A woman who focus' on her career very well may be a fine person, she's probably j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 02:55 PM |
| 1 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesshitty parents who failed to participate fully in their children’s lives in the marital home cannot be trusted with taking care of their own children And I assume you feel that women should get to make this determination? They have to earn the right to prove their fitness as a full time parent. It's sounding more and more like you mean if they prove themselves to the mother. But obviously the most engaged parent is the person who should have the kids the majority of the time. It's obvious you ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 02:51 PM |
| 1 | best place to practice talking to women for someone who has never talked to a woman?Start with women you find unattractive. It will take all the pressure off and you'll lose any anxiety quickly because you won't care about the result of practice. | /r/seduction | 26/08/24 02:38 PM |
| 3 | Dating apps are hard for womenUnless a man has virtually no appeal in the dating market, all men look to verify sexual access before evaluating a woman for relationship material. If 80% 'are just looking for sex' this actually means 80% of the men who have sex with you don't see you as on their level for a relationship. A lot of guys on dating apps are also very unattractive and below looks match of the average women. And I think we found the problem, OP overestimates their attractiveness. The average woman is a 5, just like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 02:37 PM |
| – | If a lady is not being intimate with you, it means you are not attractive enough or not trust worthy enoughDang u/Upstairs-Calendar-52 has taken the Red Pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 02:32 PM |
| 1 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesSo what exactly do you have against 50/50 as the default with no child support? Again, if one parent refuses, as you seem to think as what actually happens, it would end up like today with child support and with one parent with primary custody. Let's take the case where both parents want to be active, present and involved in the day to day of raising their kids? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 02:24 PM |
| 9 | Men really need to stop dating women who can't have orgasmsBy and large men already filter for this. I even had a female friend of mine tell me that all women who struggle with orgasms are single (her words not mine). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 04:57 AM |
| – | "Believe Women" is a conspiracy to profit from destroying men and feminist establishment is party to it.Men have an adversarial system where we compete with each other. Even if you are a boss, people under you want your job and compete with you and undermine you. You learn to deal with this by finding common ground and mutually desired goals as well as embracing goals of those who aren't 100% on your side to bring them to where a tenuous truce can be reached to be productive. Women don't typically like an adversarial system. This is why when they become bosses and they feel people undermining them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 04:36 AM |
| 1 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesMen are simply told it is a waste of time and money and they operate based on that advice from their lawyers. Fix the laws and I think you will see the problem go away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 04:19 AM |
| – | Declining birth rates can't be solved by government programs because beta males won't benefit from itCalifornia SB 826 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 04:17 AM |
| 1 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesYup, always the man's fault, never the woman's fault. That checks out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 02:45 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Reparations for the gender pay gap seems fairWhen adjusted for education, job title and hours worked women earn only slightly more than man, it's not something to worry about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 02:28 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Reparations for the gender pay gap seems fairWhat wage gap? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 02:25 PM |
| -2 | Declining birth rates can't be solved by government programs because beta males won't benefit from itWomen have come a long way, and great for them. I think we've reached the stage where we can finally stop using Government programs to prop them up. Women are smart and resourceful and can compete on even footing with men if we simply let them. There's no reason to have laws that require company boards be 50% women or similar for executive jobs. Let the most qualified person regardless of race, gender or sexual orientation get those jobs. That's what the government can do, it can stop meddling w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 02:17 PM |
| 1 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesDo you struggle with statistics? No but apparently you do. You seem oblivious to the concept of 'selection bias'. The men who seek custody do so because their circumstances make it likely they will win custody in a biased system (mother is incapable, etc). As I've stated, the majority of men are discouraged from trying due to the court bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 01:52 PM |
| 2 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesAnd that's fine, my proposal would be for those men to be subject to child support. But the law shouldn't view women as default parents. They simply aren't very good at it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:30 PM |
| 4 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesThat doesn't mean anything. The instances where men can win they are told by their lawyers they can win. I know from personal experience that a family law attorney will tell you 'She's the primary care giver, you are not going to get custody. It's a waste of money to seek custody' Why? Men don’t take care of the children in their home fifty percent of the time. Because men are better parents and the women should work on getting a job and stabilizing their income. This is a much better outcome th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:27 PM |
| 2 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesdo I need to empathize this again? That's a pretty funny freudian slip. You have no empathy on this issue. A perfectly logical method of getting the answer then pursuing it by legal means after the fact. On this we agree. Quietly get a paternity test. If it's positive, that's great. That's what you want. If it's negative, then you bring it up and seek a court admissible test. You’re pretending to be victimized because the courts required evidence? You are acting entirely disingenuous. I'm callin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:24 PM |
| 6 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesMen don't seek it because they are told they won't win. Just make custody 50/50 by default with no child support. That would solve the majority of the problems. Child support should only take effect if one parent refuses to live up to their 50/50 obligation. Stop pretending to care about this. It’s another phony ass virtue signal from men who have zero desire to make any changes. Lol, I'm the only one between the two of us that cares about men's rights. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:09 PM |
| 2 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesI agree all men should be encouraged to conduct paternity testing on all their kids. They unfortunately have to do this sneakily because women openly state that they would leave a man who insults them by getting a paternity test. But I agree they should do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:07 PM |
| 5 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesI was referring to Tennessee's law and I believe Florida is moving to pass similar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:06 PM |
| 8 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesFind an example of a man winning a suit like this. *crickets*... *crickets* | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:56 PM |
| 5 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesIt's incredible how you see no solution other than blame men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:55 PM |
| 5 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesSo what's wrong with her being obligated to figure it out? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:55 PM |
| 6 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesThere is a totally difference between being pretty damn sure something is bullshit and holding them responsible legally. Wow, still sticking with 'but we can't hold women accountable'. Just tell the guy tough luck? Why do men need to ask for a paternity test? Just go get one without her... This is true if the man has access to the child. If the mother is not letting him see the child or if she lives out of state. Also a test conducted by a man from something he buys at the pharmacy isn't going t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:54 PM |
| – | Men are more valued by society for just existingThe entire education system was rebuilt by women, for women and has resulted in women being more successful in school than they were when school focused on individual learning. There are more scholarships available to women to attend college and due to this more women attend college. The majority of the social safety net is geared towards women. Women aren't sent to prison for the same amount of time as men. They are less likely to be convicted. Women lobby through efforts like the #MeToo to not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:45 PM |
| 4 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesThe point is if there are multiple potential fathers she knows. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 09:35 PM |
| 4 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesI think we can hold women a little more accountable than 'but they can't be accountable'. She knows. It isn't tricky other than her trying to trick the man she thinks would be the best provider. Women currently police paternity testing by telling men they will leave (due to insult) if he doesn't trust her and gets a paternity test, this keeps the majority of men from asking. This is why the move towards mandatory paternity testing solves all these problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 09:34 PM |
| 14 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesYou can't sue for this currently. The woman is the only person with the entire information picture, the law should be changed obliging her to identify the correct father. There's no one else who has the entire information, so trying to tie it to intent is meaningless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 08:43 PM |
| 10 | How do you deal with women that have strong personalities?Don't date obnoxious people. | /r/seduction | 24/08/24 08:35 PM |
| 15 | The moment a guy finds out a kid isn't his, he should be able to waive all paternal responsibilitiesIt's theft by deception. I'l take a step further, his money should be refunded unless he decides to wave his parental rights. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 08:30 PM |
| – | Child support should be completely optionalAnd even easier when child support is mandatory. Cha-ching! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 01:31 PM |
| – | Child support should be completely optionalIt is if child support is mandatory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 01:31 PM |
| – | Child support should be completely optionalLol, seriously? A woman can never be blamed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 01:30 PM |
| – | Child support should be completely optionalI always love how women can find a way to make something a man's fault. Serious question, is a woman ever to blame? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 01:30 PM |
| – | Child support should be completely optionalThe much more obvious and direct solution is to simply award custody to the parent who is more financially stable. The idea that children belong to women is a fallacy of the courts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 01:29 PM |
| – | Child support should be completely optionalWomen can decide not to be a a parent even after a baby is born. Look up safe harbor laws, they allow a woman to abandon a baby up to 72 hours after birth at a hospital no questions asked. Why are women given this right and not men? A woman currently isn't just given a right to herself, she's given a right over the man as a parent. A woman can decide to take a baby to term and currently force a man to be a father, she could also give up the baby after birth and strip away his right to being a fa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 01:27 PM |
| – | Child support should be completely optionalUnless you're rich you can basically get away with paying peanuts which isn't fair on the child. Child support is calculated based off of income, so if you are rich you get charged way more than the actual cost of raising a child. Some celebrities pay $75k/month in child support. That may be peanuts to you but it isn't to most of us. For the poor, the cost of raising the child (however you calculate that) could easily be more than a man makes. You suggestion is fantasy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 01:23 PM |
| – | Child support should be completely optionalCute, but avoiding the question. Women, in most states, can abandon a baby at a hospital no questions asked (within 72 hours of birth) and not be responsible for it. They are known as safe harbor laws. So women are given the right in this country to decide not to be a parent even after a baby is born. They can decide while pregnant, they can decide after birth. Why are men not given the same rights as women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 01:21 PM |
| – | Child support should be completely optionalThe default should be 50/50 with no child support. Child support should exist only if one parent is unable or unwilling to live up to their 50/50. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 01:19 PM |
| – | Child support should be completely optionalYou know men who don't get women pregnant are tricked into paying child support right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 01:18 PM |
| – | Child support should be completely optionalYou go around making kids, don't expect other men to pay taxes to support them. I think you missed the point that this attitude has opened the window for paternity fraud. Men are forced to pay for kids who are not there's all the time. It's not uncommon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 01:18 PM |
| – | Child support should be completely optionala woman's legal right to an abortion creates a situation in which the mother had the ability/right to determine whether or not she wants to be a parent but the father does not. I would say it is more than that. Women have the right to make a man a parent. They are not forced to become a parent. Most states have a safe harbor law allowing women to abandon a baby at a hospital no questions asked. So even without abortion a woman can walk away from being a parent. But they can legally bind a man to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 01:16 PM |
| 15 | Is age a limiting factor as a man?30 is roughly the age that mean's attractiveness levels out with women's attractiveness. Your attractiveness will continue to rise another few years. This is peak time for you. | /r/seduction | 24/08/24 02:19 AM |
| 1 | Women should get unfettered access to their baby daddies' bank accounts.Well since single motherhood is working so well, why follow the data right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 02:14 AM |
| 54 | If most women look away immediately as soon as you lock eyes with them, is this is good indicator that you're ugly? (NO COPE ALLOWED)I've found there's roughly 4 responses You look at her she's looking at you and smiling, (she's interested) If she's looking at you but quickly looks away she was lingering her gaze a bit wasn't wow'ed She doesn't look at you, she's already looked at you and isn't interested She has this look on her face like she just smelled a fart or something, she looked at you and she's revolted by you. | /r/seduction | 24/08/24 02:11 AM |
| 1 | Women should get unfettered access to their baby daddies' bank accounts.I think that goes without saying. Because women aren't toddlers and they wouldn't need the money if it didn't cost money to raise a child Okay, so as I thought, no guarantee whatsoever. Sure! And then we'll get to see the obvious end result where most of the kids wind up dead or more fucked up than their single-mom counterparts. The outcomes for single father homes are on par with duel parent homes. The outcomes for single mother homes are the worst of any group. There actually is data out there… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 11:26 PM |
| 11 | Looking for flings, hookups; but all the women i meet want a relationship.You are basically describing your role in the dating seen for women in their early 20s. It seems like all of the attractive 20 somethings are sleeping with a guy who doesn't want a commited relationship with them. They occilate between pining for that guy and getting frustrated to the point they date some other guy that they low key resent and treat terribly, they cheat on him with the guy they want when he signals they can come over. There's a third tier of orbiters she gives just enough attent… | /r/seduction | 23/08/24 09:03 PM |
| 20 | Looking for flings, hookups; but all the women i meet want a relationship.I've been both of those guys and it's better to be the one that she shows up to after her date. | /r/seduction | 23/08/24 06:45 PM |
| 21 | Looking for flings, hookups; but all the women i meet want a relationship.Women hook up with guys they just find overwhelmingly attractive and value the experience of hooking up just for the sake of hooking up with someone like that. For everyone else they want a relationship with they are seeking investment. | /r/seduction | 23/08/24 06:44 PM |
| 2 | Women should get unfettered access to their baby daddies' bank accounts.When a woman is knocked up by a man, she is not guaranteed the resources required to actually care for that child. Which sounds like something a woman should think about before getting pregnant. Easy: You give a baby mama unfettered access to her baby daddy's bank account(s). How would this in any way shape or form guarantee a single penny of that money would be spent on the child? Are there going to be unfortunate instances where a women takes complete advantage of this and bleed a man dry? Yes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 04:05 AM |
| – | Why do you assume bluepill=simp ?It's all about optimizing the return on what you provide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 03:49 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The women on Bear Grylls' The Island would have created a better place to live than the males' islandWell I watched in on youtube. Looking up the wikipedia page it appears I was mistaken and the show aired (second season in 2015). Here's how wikipedia describes the seasons. Initially pitched) as an assessment of the capabilities of British men in the 21st century, the first series (2014) featured 13 male participants. Following accusations of sexism, the second series (2015) used two islands, with 14 women on one, and 14 men on the other. The third series (2016) continued the gender divide them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 03:21 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The women on Bear Grylls' The Island would have created a better place to live than the males' islandThe Island, as far as I know it wasn't aired. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 03:11 PM |
| 14 | CMV: The women on Bear Grylls' The Island would have created a better place to live than the males' islandOh yeah definitely. Those women were just about to turn the corner and start getting along and doing the work. I liked it when the women just started hanging out at the male camp, uninvited, refusing to leave because their camp was such a disaster. Then started vandalizing the male camp (against the rules of the show) demanding the men give them stuff to fix up their camp. It was like watching 100,000 years of social conditioning playing out. It's a fun watch, because the women actually due end … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 02:35 PM |
| 1 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingWow, you should start an RP channel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 03:48 AM |
| 1 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingIt just sounds like you have a sound bite level of understanding of RP. RP talks about high quality women all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 11:14 PM |
| 2 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingRP certainly points out the shitty choices women make, but that isn't used as an excuse that's used to set the reality of the landscape a man has to navigate. Life isn't fair, women make shitty choices, that isn't going to change, the one thing a man can change is himself to elevate himself away from the poor choice, low end women so that he can actually attract a quality woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 05:20 PM |
| 5 | hook ups, fwb and long term dating...Once you understand their dating strategy you can decide if it matches your requirements or if it's in your best interests. To use your example, you could settle for a women in her 30s who's now looking to settle and isn't particularly into you or you could realize you'd be better off dating someone younger. So then ask yourself what would need to change about yourself to attract younger women, then make those changes to your life and find a woman who bonds to you based on her attraction and adm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 05:18 PM |
| 6 | hook ups, fwb and long term dating...That's only if you don't understand what they are doing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 02:27 PM |
| 10 | hook ups, fwb and long term dating...I think the answer is obvious. When women are looking to hook up they maximize their outcome by trying with the most attractive people they have access to. When looking for long term they are trying to maximize their outcome by getting as much effort from the other person as possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 02:04 PM |
| 1 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingattitudes about how deserving they are of special treatment This isn't a red pill attitude. Red Pill speaks to putting the work into yourself, not expecting anything. The researchers found that, for men, entitlement was associated with hostile views of women. Entitled men were more likely to endorse views of women as manipulative, deceptive and untrustworthy—attitudes that past research has shown are predictors of violence toward women. The study you cite used well under 1,000 people lol. They s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 01:39 PM |
| 1 | Why is it wrong to say that if men are in the mood and women are neutral (but not agaisnt it) they should have sex with their SO?Many problem can’t orgasm during penetration. It’s super common. Common as in single digit percentage? It's no where near 50%. Doing things other than penetration is not a solution. Orgasm from oral sex is still not an orgasm from penetration. Okay, but your goal should be satisfaction and pleasure for you and your partner. It's not uncommon to add clitoral stimulation during sex. To me who cares if it's the PIV that is directly leading to orgasm as long as she's having her orgasms and feels sat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 03:51 PM |
| 1 | Why is it wrong to say that if men are in the mood and women are neutral (but not agaisnt it) they should have sex with their SO?Whatever you decide my point is it's a you problem or a you situation (if you don't find it a problem). It isn't endemic to all women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 03:37 PM |
| -1 | Why do you assume bluepill=simp ?Because the majority of people aren't chads and resort to simping. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 03:35 PM |
| 1 | Why is it wrong to say that if men are in the mood and women are neutral (but not agaisnt it) they should have sex with their SO?Depends on how you do it. Maybe try your man plus a woman performing oral during sex. There's lots of options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Why is it wrong to say that if men are in the mood and women are neutral (but not agaisnt it) they should have sex with their SO?Of course people can do what they want. But you are commenting on a thread about women not orgasming which is laced with a tone that it is men's fault that this is the case. So... maybe just admit you are unwilling to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 01:46 PM |
| 1 | Why is it wrong to say that if men are in the mood and women are neutral (but not agaisnt it) they should have sex with their SO?Well I'm sorry for both of you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 01:38 PM |
| 1 | Why is it wrong to say that if men are in the mood and women are neutral (but not agaisnt it) they should have sex with their SO?No one should ever do things they don't want to do. But people who severely limit their sexual skills are usually single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Why is it wrong to say that if men are in the mood and women are neutral (but not agaisnt it) they should have sex with their SO?Learn oral, when you get good at it she won't last 60s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 01:26 PM |
| – | Why is it wrong to say that if men are in the mood and women are neutral (but not agaisnt it) they should have sex with their SO?In your experience that is probably true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 01:26 PM |
| – | Why is it wrong to say that if men are in the mood and women are neutral (but not agaisnt it) they should have sex with their SO?Do you think there's a correlation between your extreme feminism and your lack of orgasms? Did one cause the other? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 10:01 PM |
| -9 | Why is it wrong to say that if men are in the mood and women are neutral (but not agaisnt it) they should have sex with their SO?I'm sorry this has been your experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 10:00 PM |
| -2 | Why do so many straight men seem to want anal sex with their women? Will you be in an LTR with a woman if she says she abhors the idea?If they don't it's because you are doing it wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 10:00 PM |
| -23 | Why is it wrong to say that if men are in the mood and women are neutral (but not agaisnt it) they should have sex with their SO?Most women orgasm multiple times during sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 08:41 PM |
| 2 | Passport Bros victims being forced to justify American expat behavior on social media nowi feel bad for the ones i wont pick in the end Oh what a saint, how will they ever pick up the pieces. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 08:32 PM |
| 2 | Passport Bros victims being forced to justify American expat behavior on social media nowI'm just telling you what the majority has in mind about a passport bro. Of whom your feminist friends? I don't the majority even know what passport bro means. I like them smart educated feminine and caring. That's great, how many can you pull? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 05:35 PM |
| – | Why do so many straight men seem to want anal sex with their women? Will you be in an LTR with a woman if she says she abhors the idea?It can be really painful for women. Unlike men, we don't have prostrates and nothing in that part of the body can be stimulated. You need to get out more. Women that like anal sex. Love, love, love anal sex. The reason why men want to have anal sex with women is because he's probably seen it give women the most incredible orgasms they've ever had. Maybe it's not for everyone and that should of course be respected. But usually you just haven't been introduced to it right. I think you are projecti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 05:18 PM |
| 3 | Passport Bros victims being forced to justify American expat behavior on social media nowOkay so you are not a ppb, why do you want to associate with them ? I don't associate with them. I knew one friend of a friend who got a mail order bride from Ukraine. Ppb refers to those i mentionned. Great spelling btw. You are really demonstrating your superiority here. Losers who cant get a woman from an equal ground, blame society for this and go somewhere their money will give them enough traction to find a girl. I think this is your opinion. I'd be curious what sort of caliber women you p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 05:13 PM |
| 2 | Passport Bros victims being forced to justify American expat behavior on social media nowI assume it's due to the beauty of south east asian women. To me personally I think South American women (think Columbian, Venezuelan) as well as south east Asian women are the most attractive. It's just an exotic look I like. I find women from France or the Netherlands sort of plain to me. Now I've never travelled to these countries to meet women, but the idea that I would go where I like the way the women look but to you it could only be because I perceive that I will have money to buy them se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 02:27 PM |
| 2 | Passport Bros victims being forced to justify American expat behavior on social media nowIt sounds like you are fixated on buying sex. Sounds worse than a porn addiction. Seek help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 01:51 PM |
| 11 | Why do women say: "The bar is so low for men" yet to get any results from cold approach as an avg guy, the interaction has to be exceptional basically. And even then nothing is guaranteedWomen don't look at roughly 80% of men. So they are attracted to the top 20%, though arguable really only attracted to the top 5%, the remaining 15% are low bar guys to them. | /r/seduction | 19/08/24 01:41 PM |
| 0 | Why do you think girls hate dating broke men ?Why do you think girls hate dating broke men ? Because women have options. Given two men, both pretty similar and looks wise, why wouldn't she date the one who can treat her to better experiences? Or look at it a different way. So a guy is broke, what are the other qualities he brings instead of money that stand out from what any other guy can bring? | /r/seduction | 19/08/24 01:17 PM |
| 2 | Passport Bros victims being forced to justify American expat behavior on social media nowWhat is the leverage you are talking about? It's more about odds. Look at the obesity rates of women (and men) in the west. If you don't want an obese partner, wouldn't looking where people aren't obese be a good option? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 01:01 PM |
| 2 | Passport Bros victims being forced to justify American expat behavior on social media nowGotcha, I'm not really familiar with the group other than 'Go over seas for better wives'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 12:59 PM |
| 1 | why do some dating people have platforms?Check out the OkCupid data swiping behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 12:49 PM |
| 6 | Passport Bros victims being forced to justify American expat behavior on social media nowI have no idea what these men are doing. I (sort of) know one guy who married a Ukrainian mail order bride 30 years ago and when I saw him on facebook they are still married. At the time I assumed she'd leave as soon as she got a green card, but again I didn't know them too well. From what I see they are just going to a place where the women are more to their liking. The women are more slender and in shape than Western women, they take pride in their feminine beauty and they have learned how to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 01:20 AM |
| 10 | Passport Bros victims being forced to justify American expat behavior on social media nowThink of what an amazing opportunity it is for these women. They are thrilled to enter into a partnership with someone who can change the trajectory of their lives and their families lives and their children's lives. The only reason why I think you would demonize this as you have is that at some level you are aware that you can't compete with what these women offer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 01:03 AM |
| 3 | How many chances do you give a flaky girl?I think when a woman flakes, you don't make a big deal about it and let her know that she can follow up if interested and you move on. | /r/seduction | 18/08/24 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Why do men demonize women over 30 so much?even if you get with a 25 year old. In 5 years is she no longer your standard, preference and boundary. Have you seen exhibit A, Leonardo DiCaprio... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 10:17 PM |
| 2 | why do some dating people have platforms?Women have spent generations telling men that looks aren't everything, that women look for much more than that, personality matters, character matters. Then we get the data and find out women are substantially more picky about looks than men. I mean look at how women use makeup to alter their appearance. Many men are fine with women without make up, but women were showing us how much they care about looks by working on their own looks. Women basically project their feelings of judging appearance… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 11:15 AM |
| 8 | CMV: more matches don't mean anything if they're all poor optionsYour example is literally a woman discarding a man because he didn't want to pay to add cheese to his burger. Do you really think this is a good example of low quality options? By a show of upvotes, how many men would bail on a date if she didn't ask for cheese on her burger? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 10:56 AM |
| 1 | Marriage is not a requirement anymore and you don’t need to do it if you’re not fully committed to the whole thingYou are just whacky, you obviously have a very set (like hardened in cement) view of men as the problem, which prevents you from being able to see alternate points of view. Men don’t carry the burden of pregnancy No, but we've moved 100% of the financial burden on to them alleviating women of risk of pregnancy. Men’s reputations aren’t ruined if the relationship goes bad. Because women's entitlement and poor communication skills as well as higher susceptibility to depression are usually the down… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 10:48 AM |
| 2 | Marriage is not a requirement anymore and you don’t need to do it if you’re not fully committed to the whole thingThe issue is you all expect complete deference I didn't realize you knew me so well /s. Since modern feminism women no longer offer much value to be in a relationship with. Men carry the entire burden of risk in the relationship someone who expects a slave or personal assistant (what they call a life partner). also can’t be bothered to make sex mutually enjoyable lol, that's never been a problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 01:46 AM |
| 2 | Marriage is not a requirement anymore and you don’t need to do it if you’re not fully committed to the whole thingI know right, why can't they just do everything they are told, it would be soooo much better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 01:27 AM |
| 3 | Marriage is not a requirement anymore and you don’t need to do it if you’re not fully committed to the whole thingI think women have positioned themselves such that they cannot attract the men they would be interested in, so they choose nothing over men on their level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/24 07:12 PM |
| 63 | A real man wouldn't avoid single mothers when datingWhenever a woman invokes 'A Real Man' she's casting herself in the role of being the arbiter over what makes someone a man vs something else (a boy maybe, a rock, a ferret)? It's a shaming tactic. If a man were to start telling women what constitutes 'A Real Woman' do you think any woman would listen, enthralled, hoping that they meet that man's arbitrary standards? (e.g "a Real Woman would drop to her knees and perform oral every time I walk in the room"). Second, the main reason single mom's a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 02:08 PM |
| 1 | How do I let go of my incessant need for “closure”?Once you realize half the time women are playing multiple guys and it more than likely wasn't you. She just wanted your attention on days she was waiting for the guy she wanted. | /r/seduction | 15/08/24 10:29 PM |
| 2 | The Penis-As-Defiler Theory of Slut-ShamingThere's no double standard. Both genders are rewarded for doing what is difficult and both genders are looked down on for not doing what is difficult. Men have to develop themselves to be attractive, so a man who is attractive to many women has accomplished something. Being unattractive to women is looked down upon. Women are bombarded with sexual attention an opportunity, so a woman who can filter out poor options is seen to have accomplished something. Women who cannot filter out good options … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 06:50 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Your wife is not your mommy. Wives should stop enabling husbands.This is fantasy. She is not nearly attractive enough to secure a man based on the contributions she provides. Everyone in a relationship needs to contribute. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 06:32 PM |
| 2 | The Issue is MenThe majority of men hold inherently sexist beliefs, not through any fault of their own, but through generations of being raised in a society which less than a century ago still had a transactional view of romantic relationships. I'd rephrase this as The majority of men hold inherently sexist beliefs, not through any fault of their own, but through the obivous differences between the two genders. They can be tarnished or cheapened though sex. I'd rephrase this as Studies show women, unlike men ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 06:30 PM |
| 1 | It seems to be a popular opinion that single mothers are not the best parents. Would you open to encouraging women in the case of divorce to pay child support and give primary custody to the father?And just curious, what about the costs the man incurs? Do these also need to be split? Saving for college $15,000/year. Groceries. clothes, all the things he buys, is it fair that those are split as well? Or is it only the costs that were incurred due to the woman's selfish choices that need to be shared? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 08:59 PM |
| 1 | It seems to be a popular opinion that single mothers are not the best parents. Would you open to encouraging women in the case of divorce to pay child support and give primary custody to the father?You continue to conflate child car with supporting the child. They are different things. When the child is with the father why isn't the woman paying him and splitting the costs? Apparently it goes in one direction. Split costs with mom, pay 100% with dad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 08:08 PM |
| 2 | Is there a reason some men don’t ask questions on a date?This happens with both genders. When someone is excited to meet you they tend to start regurgitating their resume. Basically it means they already like you and at some level they think they have to sell themselves for you to like them back. With experience you learn that selling isn't usually a good approach and with women their imagination is actually your strongest ally if she's already interested. So less is more. Share the spotlight, encourage them to talk. But yeah, inexperienced daters do … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 04:30 PM |
| 5 | If there is "someone for everyone out there" how do so many men struggle to find one (1) woman that likes them back?Historically speaking only 60% of men reproduce. That leaves nearly half of all men on a trajectory to either die (war, accident, disease), be a life long bachelor or to cuckolded (step parent). I suppose married with no kids is also possible. So long before social media it was nearly a coin flip if you'd be able to have kids. It's a female imperative in really all species for the females to select the best males to reproduce with. A monarch butterfly won't mate with a male who's wings are out o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 04:27 PM |
| 2 | Why don't we ever hear about "henpecked wives"? It's always the henpecked husbandEven the accepted definition confirms it's mostly one-sided. My question is why? Men are usually happy with the women they are dating and if anything just want to recapture that woman he first met. Women usually see men as a project and are constantly trying to mold him into what she wants (the process of henpecking). It comes from how men and women see relationships differently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 04:10 PM |
| 1 | It seems to be a popular opinion that single mothers are not the best parents. Would you open to encouraging women in the case of divorce to pay child support and give primary custody to the father?who is going to watch the kid while she works? Put the child in daycare or with a relative until they are old enough to be home alone. This is a common challenge for all families with two working parents. you think dads are going to take the 9-5 parenting shift? If the mom had to pay them 50% of their salary possibly? They'd work from home in a hot minute. like... if you just sit at home.... then you... don't need daycare 🤦♀️ And it is your belief that forcing a man to pay so a woman can 'just … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/24 11:38 PM |
| 1 | It seems to be a popular opinion that single mothers are not the best parents. Would you open to encouraging women in the case of divorce to pay child support and give primary custody to the father?because if someone hits you don't you think they're going to hit you again if you go to the cops? So nothing in this post was about domestic violence, you brought up toxic relationships as though this was the norm and relevant to the conversation. Can we agree when someone is committing a crime it doesn't fall under normal circumstances? it just sounds like you aren't thinking about what happens in reality Are you really arguing that the vast majority of divorces are due to unreported domestic v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/24 11:34 PM |
| 1 | It seems to be a popular opinion that single mothers are not the best parents. Would you open to encouraging women in the case of divorce to pay child support and give primary custody to the father?simply telling women to stay in toxic marriages doesn't help kids or anyone other than toxic men. I think a good start would be not pretending that men and relationships are toxic by default. If actually toxic behavior is going on why not involve the police? File charges? Get a restraining order. if these things aren't happening it honestly just sounds like cope. So coming back to reality. Two kind people. Woman decides after years of keeping things to herself that she wants to leave. Question 1… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/24 11:06 PM |
| 1 | It seems to be a popular opinion that single mothers are not the best parents. Would you open to encouraging women in the case of divorce to pay child support and give primary custody to the father?Maybe the mother could possibly get a job and contribute to her child's finances along with her ex husband? Just spit balling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/24 11:00 PM |
| 0 | It seems to be a popular opinion that single mothers are not the best parents. Would you open to encouraging women in the case of divorce to pay child support and give primary custody to the father?You should ask the mothers abandoning their marriages what their plan is. I don't think it's very smart either. Whatever their plan, why is it the man always has to fix it for them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 11:09 PM |
| 0 | It seems to be a popular opinion that single mothers are not the best parents. Would you open to encouraging women in the case of divorce to pay child support and give primary custody to the father?$3k is the average cost for a nanny. Sorry you abandoned your marriage, you don't get a nanny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 11:08 PM |
| 1 | It seems to be a popular opinion that single mothers are not the best parents. Would you open to encouraging women in the case of divorce to pay child support and give primary custody to the father?Well you're not supposed to under spend for your kids in the first place. Who said anything about under spending on your kids? This is the money you need to give to someone you are not in a relationship with and they are under no requirement to spend a single penny on your child. Any argument about not spending enough misses the point that child support isn't something you are spending on your child. How much do you think parents are spending on their kids ? Well since I have four children I fee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 06:24 PM |
| 1 | How can you encourage a girl to end things after hooking up, while making sure she feels like she’s in control?Yikes dude. | /r/seduction | 11/08/24 03:47 PM |
| 1 | It seems to be a popular opinion that single mothers are not the best parents. Would you open to encouraging women in the case of divorce to pay child support and give primary custody to the father?I personally know men who tell me their kid cost around $200/month and when they got divorced the court ordered him to pay $4000/month. It isn't based on the lifestyle at all, it's based on the father's income an it's outrageous. In California the percentage is 1 child 25%, 2 children 40%, 3 children 50%. I've already described what I think the doctrine should be. It obviously isn't what the law says today, but what the law says today is grossly unfair to the higher income earner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 03:00 PM |
| -1 | It seems to be a popular opinion that single mothers are not the best parents. Would you open to encouraging women in the case of divorce to pay child support and give primary custody to the father?Of course, only the best for our kid, especially if someone else is paying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Relationships are not worth if sex rarely happenI think my humor went over your head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 02:53 PM |
| 1 | It seems to be a popular opinion that single mothers are not the best parents. Would you open to encouraging women in the case of divorce to pay child support and give primary custody to the father?I think the child should be 50/50 custody with no child support. If one parent cannot live up to that then child support would come in to play. I'm assuming you are asking about the 50/50 case with no child support. As a judge I'd ask the parents what their priorities were, what their concerns were and I'd look for common ground. If one parent said 'I want them to go to private school' and the other parent said 'I think public school is fine but I'd like to see us save for our kids college'. I'd… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 07:05 AM |
| 5 | It seems to be a popular opinion that single mothers are not the best parents. Would you open to encouraging women in the case of divorce to pay child support and give primary custody to the father?Try to put everything your said in practical terms and you get a very imbalanced parenting where the person with more money (usually men, obviously) have more power over the woman. People with more money always have the capacity to do more because they can spend more money. This has nothing to do with parenting. If you make a lot of money, you can spend a lot of money. That just doesn't seem fair What does fair have to do with it? When two people decide not to be together, they are deciding to s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 06:57 AM |
| 2 | How can you encourage a girl to end things after hooking up, while making sure she feels like she’s in control?Did you lie to get what you wanted? | /r/seduction | 11/08/24 06:49 AM |
| 3 | Men and women CANT be just friends (rare)The type of energy and effort a women considers 'friendship' will fall into the boyfriend level effort for the vast majority of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 06:49 AM |
| 1 | It seems to be a popular opinion that single mothers are not the best parents. Would you open to encouraging women in the case of divorce to pay child support and give primary custody to the father?The idea is to let the lower income parent control the money. Why is that necessary? The higher income earner is more qualified to choose how to spend their money, that's part of what comes from learning how to earn more money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 06:47 AM |
| 1 | It seems to be a popular opinion that single mothers are not the best parents. Would you open to encouraging women in the case of divorce to pay child support and give primary custody to the father?Parents make decisions all the time, they try to make them together, they don't always agree. Sometimes the compromise is to allow the other parent to do what they want and to not intervene. You basically have three options. Agree on a course of action and agree on how each parent will participate in that action. Disagree on a course of action but choose to defer to the other parent letting them have their way then deciding how each parent will participate or if one will choose not to participat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 05:23 AM |
| 4 | How can you encourage a girl to end things after hooking up, while making sure she feels like she’s in control?Did you? | /r/seduction | 11/08/24 05:15 AM |
| 6 | How can you encourage a girl to end things after hooking up, while making sure she feels like she’s in control?Why is it important to make her want to break up with you? It just seems like some insecurity around dealing with conflict. You are saying no to someone. People don't like being told no. Often times they get mad when being told no and in the moment they will act out. Just be prepared for it and choose not to partake in escalating should they choose to do so. | /r/seduction | 11/08/24 05:12 AM |
| 1 | It seems to be a popular opinion that single mothers are not the best parents. Would you open to encouraging women in the case of divorce to pay child support and give primary custody to the father?What is your strategy normally when you want things you can't afford them? For me, I either save for them, select an alternative, or accept that I won't have them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 05:09 AM |
| 4 | How can you encourage a girl to end things after hooking up, while making sure she feels like she’s in control?Let them tie you down and use a safe word. | /r/seduction | 11/08/24 05:05 AM |
| -2 | It seems to be a popular opinion that single mothers are not the best parents. Would you open to encouraging women in the case of divorce to pay child support and give primary custody to the father?If it is important to one parent that they attend a fancy private school then they should pay for it if they can't get consensus with the other parent. Child support shouldn't be about letting one parent tap into the other parents money to spend on things they want to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 05:05 AM |
| 1 | How can you encourage a girl to end things after hooking up, while making sure she feels like she’s in control?If you are playing games with her I suppose. Just work on living a kick ass life and women will actually just be attracted to you. You won't have to lie and pretend to be something you are not. You'll actually be someone she wants. | /r/seduction | 11/08/24 04:50 AM |
| 13 | How can you encourage a girl to end things after hooking up, while making sure she feels like she’s in control?Why would you want to put that much effort into trying to force a woman to break up with you? I once sat a woman down to tell her I didn't think we should date and she got mad and started telling me I was too high on myself, that she couldn't believe I thought she'd be so heart broken that I needed to sit her down for a conversation. That was the last time I bothered to put in that type of effort. Not contacting someone is a form of communicating. It says 'I don't want to contact you'. If she ca… | /r/seduction | 11/08/24 04:41 AM |
| 1 | It seems to be a popular opinion that single mothers are not the best parents. Would you open to encouraging women in the case of divorce to pay child support and give primary custody to the father?I think the default should be 50/50 custody with zero child support. If one parent cannot fulfill their 50/50 then child support should be applied to compensate the other parent. Child support shouldn't be based on income, it should be based on what it actually costs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 04:25 AM |
| 1 | Is the redpill about generating wealth to be attractive, or is this a misreading?I think you are way over thinking things and more than likely simply looking for a way to dismiss RP without taking it on critically. RP basically tells men that what they've been told about being kind, caring, loyal, honest, etc aren't the primary criteria that women use. Basically there's a lot of BP men who get angry asking themselves why women don't like them, having been told by their mother's and aunts that they are great catches only to find that women ignore them. RP tells men that women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 04:19 AM |
| 1 | Men don't actually care about sex. If they did, they'd strive to be better at it and actively learn about female anatomy.Well agreed if the sex is terrible a woman may not want lackluster sex again, but that will have absolutely no bearing on you getting another woman to have sex with you. My point is, there's the skills that make a woman interested enough to have sex with you and there's actual sexual prowess and those are two different skills sets. For a man the second one can realistically only develop after achieving the first skillset. Women don't let guys practice who they aren't attracted to. So focusing on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 03:58 AM |
| -2 | Relationships are not worth if sex rarely happenIt's just a theory, but I will continue conducting my own research. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 03:52 AM |
| – | Women who are thirty plus have a good amount of fertility left and if no man wants to start a family with them, they should have kids by themselvesIt certainly happens, with IVF and other advances it happens more often than not. Did your cousin use IVF? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 03:51 AM |
| 2 | Men and women CANT be just friends (rare)The difference is that a lesbian won't drain relationship energy and boyfriend effort from a man because she won't be interested in it. Heterosexual women use friend zoned guys to receive boyfriend benefits without returning girlfriend effort. A lesbian wouldn't care about that energy so she would simply be friends with a guy if she enjoyed being his friend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 03:49 AM |
| 0 | Relationships are not worth if sex rarely happenI dunno, I'm going with the theory that the wall thinning occurs from lack of use. So I'm doing my part to hopefully keep my partner functioning past menopause, but who knows. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 12:25 AM |
| – | Women who are thirty plus have a good amount of fertility left and if no man wants to start a family with them, they should have kids by themselvesmy great grandmother had her last kid at 45 and my grandmother at 42. Having kids into your 40s is not the same as having your first child in your 40s. Having your first kid fully activates the baby making phase of life and often women can continue having kids into their 40s. I even know one who had a baby at 50, though this obviously rare, and as I said, not her first child. It's not the same for women who have never had a kid. it’s obvious men don’t like older woman and I’ll be too old to star… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 12:24 AM |
| 6 | Relationships are not worth if sex rarely happenThere's also, in some cases, a thinning of the vaginal walls making sex quite painful. My partner is in her 40s and is still quite into sex but I have a friend who's wife essentially told him 'I don't see myself wanting sex now or ever wanting sex again. If you can't deal with that we should get a divorce and I will understand.' I have another friend who told me he hasn't has sex with his wife in two years because she finds it painful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 11:55 PM |
| 2 | Men and women CANT be just friends (rare)Men can only be friends with lesbians and unattractive women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 11:46 PM |
| 1 | Men don't actually care about sex. If they did, they'd strive to be better at it and actively learn about female anatomy.The point is that reading a book isn't going to help you get laid. maybe women would want more sex if the sex they were likely to get was at least decent. If they're not expecting disappointment, they'll be more excited to seal the deal, so shouldn't men who care about sex be a LOT more interested in changing this statistic-turned-stereotype? OP is stating that by reading a book women might want to have more sex and I'm simply saying that suggestion is absurd as a premise. Do you think as a woma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Men don't actually care about sex. If they did, they'd strive to be better at it and actively learn about female anatomy.Oh good, you've come in with the misogyny to try and put me down. Look up the definition of misogyny. Nothing I said implies I have a hate for women. I'm aware women enjoy sex I'm sure you are aware of it in theory. I'm also aware women don't enjoy sleeping with someone who's bad at it. This I'm assuming is more personal experience. So how about instead of vitriol you try and give me a genuine response? I have given you genuine responses. Any suggestion that says all men need to change is absurd… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 11:35 PM |
| 3 | Relationships are not worth if sex rarely happenI don't want to burst your bubble but many women (about 30%) come through menopause unable to continue having sex. For many men in their 50s, their reality that their partners cannot have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 11:31 PM |
| 1 | If men don't exclusively care about sex then why do they devalue everything else about a woman?I see this as a general admission that women don't care about men as people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 11:29 PM |
| 9 | If men don't exclusively care about sex then why do they devalue everything else about a woman?Only a small percentage of people have interesting hobbies or careers. You're asking men to be interested in relatively mediocre things. If your those things were stand out I think you'd find more people interested in them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 07:16 PM |
| – | Men don't actually care about sex. If they did, they'd strive to be better at it and actively learn about female anatomy.I think what's happening is you are projecting your experiences on to everyone and your solution is for the world to change to cater to your needs. First of all, the vast majority of women enjoy sex. The fact that you don't doesn't make it the norm. It may be the norm among single women over 30, but not for women chosen to be in relationships. So your externalizing the problem to suggest that all men just need to learn about what you define as the important erogenous zones kind of highlights the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 06:26 PM |
| – | Men don't actually care about sex. If they did, they'd strive to be better at it and actively learn about female anatomy.There is no skill that is better learned by listening to someone talking about ideas that might apply some of the time vs actually doing it. If you want better male lovers, then start having sex with more men. You'll become a better lover too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 06:21 PM |
| – | Men don't actually care about sex. If they did, they'd strive to be better at it and actively learn about female anatomy.It will actually give him the opportunity to practice, which, if he finds a woman with good communication skills (unlikely I know) he will have the opportunity to improve. Do you seriously think a man will improve more by hearing about erogenous zones? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 04:37 AM |
| – | Men don't actually care about sex. If they did, they'd strive to be better at it and actively learn about female anatomy.RP has a better prescription for men improving their attractiveness. It's actually actionable by a real life human and doesn't require all of humanity to change before he gets results. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 04:22 AM |
| – | Men don't actually care about sex. If they did, they'd strive to be better at it and actively learn about female anatomy.Do you have any other ideas that don't require half of the population to follow your advice? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 04:16 AM |
| – | Men don't actually care about sex. If they did, they'd strive to be better at it and actively learn about female anatomy.Here's an interesting thought: maybe women would want more sex if the sex they were likely to get was at least decent. So your saying the solution is to simply tell them that you have skills that are at least decent and women will be more likely to sleep with you? Yeah that sounds like a solid plan. Good job solving the world's problems. What's your next solution? Telling hungry people you've noticed they're hungry because they aren't eating and if they started eating they wouldn't be hungry any… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 03:57 AM |
| 1 | Is a woman saying she’s looking for friends on dating apps subtle code that they’re looking for NSA?I've always felt when women put 'Not looking for hookups' they are basically advertising that they keep finding guys to hook up with and are externalizing the cause on to the men she hasn't meant. So 'Not looking for hookups' essentially means, 'I keep doing hookups'. | /r/seduction | 09/08/24 02:13 PM |
| 9 | Most males could easily get women, if they just treated us like normal human beingsI knew it had to be a man's fault. Shame on me for entertaining the thought that maybe a woman some where was at fault for something /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 05:24 AM |
| 2 | Many TRPers in here have a high external locus of control, and are hypocritical about it.even though in the US, men are actually more often overweight compared to women Inaccurate. Obesity rates in women are higher in women in the US. All females, 41% All Males, 37.9% Source Heath e-stats, September 2018. So many posts in this sub are just men complaining that women are too picky and “unfair” in choosing the men we get involved with I haven't seen this, the closest I've seen to this is women complaining about men and the response being that they make bad choices are have deal breake… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 10:11 PM |
| – | "Men need to treat us like human beings " is deceptiveBut that’s not something I see as treating someone as a human being. I guess that's the rub. Ingrained in your wanting to be treated like a human is you also being in control of what it means to be a human, and the context of that definition allows you to treat men differently then you want to be treated by men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 09:28 PM |
| – | "Men need to treat us like human beings " is deceptiveWomen use a lot of coded phrases that are intended to sound like very basic, simple requests or standards but actually are sort of absurdly entitled. "Treat like human beings" As OP pointed out, human beings can be treated in many ways, historically we've treated humans in a variety of ways, many awful. They clearly mean, as OP pointed out, to be treated as revered and respected members of society. In return, most women essentially pretend men don't exist. They don't make eye contact, they don't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 07:08 AM |
| – | "Men need to treat us like human beings " is deceptiveAnd so do you, in turn treat all men as a 'human being'? Do you make eye contact with all men and acknowledge them? Do you take interest in their hobbies. Do you hear and listen to men in general? Do you see men for all their qualities even the ones that don't benefit you? Or are these behaviors limited to men who meet your standards? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 07:01 AM |
| 0 | The bar is on the floor for a being marriage material womenI think the term Submissive is code for 'I want her to treat me like she would treat Chad'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 06:35 AM |
| 1 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?Well for one, men don't peak at 50. Men peak physically in their 20s (lets just say 25 as a nice number) similar to women. The main difference is men are judged on their success, which typically happens after 25, honestly into their 30s. So men's desirability peaks later, again just to pick a number let's say late 30s, maybe 38. A balance between maintaining some physical attractiveness if they've worked on it, but also with time to establish life success. Basically a guy in his mid 30s who's ta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 04:17 PM |
| 2 | Doesn't it seem counter-intuitive that women are generally against "red pilled" mentalities?I think some of the hard truths in RP simplify (fairly accurately) a lot of women's behavior into a less flattering picture of women. Women like to bask in this image of their comparative complexity and sophistication compared to men, so when it's broken down into things like attentions seeking and natural plate spinning I think they just don't like their behavior being described in that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 01:37 PM |
| 21 | RP men have this scenario of fuckzoning women they meet in their 30s when they are more stable/affluent, coz they were rejected in their 20s.... I wonder if they are talking about the same women?I see it more as not being obligated to give them a relationship. Just as women have the right to date who they please, men aren't obligated to give women relationships if they don't see a woman as commitment worthy. But go ahead and demonize it as some of weird payback vendetta instead of just confidently expressing your own standards, which btw, women do all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 07:52 PM |
| 0 | We shouldn't enter people into default contracts, such as Alimony and Child SupportMost men support their children, even the ones dealing with unagreeable women who are punishing them by turning their kids against them. Who gets to define supporting their kids? The mothers? They aren't even required to spend child support on the kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 07:42 PM |
| -3 | We shouldn't enter people into default contracts, such as Alimony and Child SupportIf you don’t want to support children, have a vasectomy. You're conflating supporting your child with child support. A man could still support his child if a legal claim to forcibly collect money from him didn't exist. Modern child support is classic bad feminist thinking. Prior to child support, some men would use their money (or lack of it) to punish or manipulate their ex wives (a terrible thing). So the solution was to assume women would never abuse the system and to put the women in charge … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 05:47 AM |
| -1 | If all men prefer young women what should wifed up women do after the age of 40?Stay with their husbands. The way men love they still see the younger versions of their wives even as they age. It's more a problem for divorcees who mistake sexual lust for a relationship option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 01:43 AM |
| 2 | How would the dating world change if all men became happy/content being single?I think we got our answer as to why men aren't nice and are unhelpful when dealing with you specifically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 03:47 PM |
| 3 | How would the dating world change if all men became happy/content being single?18 years, four kids. I'm the sole breadwinner and do the laundry and drop off my kids to school. I'm very fortunate my better half is multi-orgasmic and insatiable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 03:41 PM |
| 5 | How would the dating world change if all men became happy/content being single?...men are unkind and unhelpful enough to keep them from wanting men. I'm just trying to imagine how horribly you treat men for them to be unkind and unhelpful to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 03:30 PM |
| 9 | How would the dating world change if all men became happy/content being single?I think women being happy single comes from social media feeding their near bottomless need for attention and all the social programs we've put in place to prop up women, from education, to job hirings, etc. If men had similar catering to their needs they'd likely be happy too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 10:44 PM |
| 5 | CMV: when dating, if things don't work out - only the last date should be eligible for a reimbursement splitWhat are your thoughts on this situation? Shouldn't she be reimbursed? I think her asking him for money back is petty and childish. But if she wants to, why wouldn't you also count the first two dates? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 01:16 PM |
| 7 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereI've been here for a while and most of the posts goes like "Isn't it immature and weird for a woman to be turned off by a man voicing his sexual desires first instead of physically trying them?" (no one is obliged to try anyone if they do not want to or don't want it or you) I'm confused by this, aren't you agreeing with the male voice in this case? The male voice thinking it's weird that his voicing his desires is a turn off? Isn't voicing his desires first better than just trying something wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 04:27 AM |
| 1 | Men here who are worried their LTR/wife had a 'wild past' or had hot, uninhibited, monkey sex or hardcore BDSM with her hookups but starfish, lights off, socks on, missionary sex with you.... I have a questionWhat about when a woman tries to manipulate the words like you are doing? I'd say that's pretty dishonest and manipulative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Men here who are worried their LTR/wife had a 'wild past' or had hot, uninhibited, monkey sex or hardcore BDSM with her hookups but starfish, lights off, socks on, missionary sex with you.... I have a questionSex is only dirty if you are doing it right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 10:34 PM |
| 3 | Men here who are worried their LTR/wife had a 'wild past' or had hot, uninhibited, monkey sex or hardcore BDSM with her hookups but starfish, lights off, socks on, missionary sex with you.... I have a questionDisinterest in a sexual act doesn’t mean someone loves you less. Nah, you just don't want the simps to catch on. When a woman is way into you she loves all aspects of sex. No one has to do anything they don't want to do, but that cuts both ways, a woman isn't required to give reasonable effort, but a guy isn't required to stay due to substandard effort. It means they find the sex act to be unpleasant or degrading. Again, they might feel that way with someone else. Sex isn't degrading. It's natur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 10:18 PM |
| – | Are women less capable if introspection than men?Honestly it's pretty shocking when you realize how little effort women put into things in general. You hear their narrative of how they are working hard but when you spend time with them you realize the put very little effort into anything they do. They apparently think its a lot of effort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 05:13 PM |
| 3 | Men here who are worried their LTR/wife had a 'wild past' or had hot, uninhibited, monkey sex or hardcore BDSM with her hookups but starfish, lights off, socks on, missionary sex with you.... I have a questionIf you said it that way yes. I'm saying you break up when you realize they aren't in love with you the way you want to be. Why waste time with a woman (or a man) who sees you as a placeholder? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 05:11 PM |
| 1 | Men here who are worried their LTR/wife had a 'wild past' or had hot, uninhibited, monkey sex or hardcore BDSM with her hookups but starfish, lights off, socks on, missionary sex with you.... I have a questionHow would you know? You would know because she's having star fish sex with you. If you are getting star fish sex you move on. Maybe she did try anal after one ex whom she really loved. And found that she hated it. And swore never to try it again. What's wrong with wanting her to try it with you. Experiences with different people can be quite different. Anal sex in particular is a great example. Because if done right, I mean I've never met a woman that didn't love anal sex. But done wrong it can … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 01:30 PM |
| 11 | Was Dating a more even playing field before apps and social media?Dating apps/websites started taking shape in the late 90s. It was decades before facebook. Things really have gotten bad due to social media and more recently things like OF. Meeting people online was fine in the late 90s, 2000s, and probably didn't get bad until the mid teens is when it seemed like it went down hill. | /r/seduction | 29/07/24 08:02 PM |
| – | Do you agree that the bar is on the floor?So a billionaire, philanthropist, former NBA player who moon lights as a male model and who spent time in prison for a violent crime is now the bare minimum? But if a woman concentrates enough I'm sure she can manifest him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Your own attractiveness is static, so raising your standards only makes you less likely to find your partnerMy mom had me at 30, her first and only, and got pregnant literally as soon as they started trying Having a baby at 30 is no problem, being single and starting the courting process for a long term relationship at 30 is the problem. So I could have my kid at 25 or 30, it doesn’t matter much to me. Exactly that's a great window to be having children. But 30 is not even old or risky As I tried to lay out for you, it's not being 30, it's the timeline for building a long term committed relationship. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Your own attractiveness is static, so raising your standards only makes you less likely to find your partnerAfter 35 a woman's pregnancy is described as 'geriatric'. Are you still going to pretend that looking to start a family with a 30 year old woman is a better idea than say a 20-25 year old woman? IVF has extended the window (though its expensive and again I'd ask why pay $10s of thousands for a chance at one baby when a 10 year younger version of your wife could have the kids no problem), but historically by 40 a woman was done having kids. Look at it this way, if you want to have say two kids if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Your own attractiveness is static, so raising your standards only makes you less likely to find your partnerWell between you and me I'd still recommend men look to women in their 20s for reproduction, not fetuses, which would be illegal, and disgusting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 03:31 PM |
| 0 | Your own attractiveness is static, so raising your standards only makes you less likely to find your partnerI never said it was, but a woman's strongest window for finding the best mate she can occurs during her fertility window. Post 30 90% of a women's eggs are gone and her appeal as a partner to start a family with is dwindling. This isn't the end of her life of course, and not even the end of her dating options by any stretch, but women are aware of losing their appeal as a family partner if that is indeed a priority for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 04:14 AM |
| 4 | Your own attractiveness is static, so raising your standards only makes you less likely to find your partnerIt isn't just single moms that do this. Women approaching their 30s do this all the time. Instead of reflecting on why they can't find a long term partner, they just think they need to demand commitment up front. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 11:38 PM |
| 10 | Q4RP: Red pill has various strategies for approaching women. What strategies does it recommend for maintaining a relationship, or is that not the focus of RP?You are probably single. I do it to my wife all the time, at the right time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 11:35 PM |
| 13 | Q4RP: Red pill has various strategies for approaching women. What strategies does it recommend for maintaining a relationship, or is that not the focus of RP?My basic advice is to appreciate that women experience ovulatory shift and want different things at different times during the month. There's a period when they will be very horny and walking up to them and pulling down their pants will be welcomed, but in my experience that's only a few days during the month. During their periods they are usually pretty irritable and your being on top of things around the house so they don't have to will be appreciated. Towards the end of their period they usua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 10:21 PM |
| 2 | Correlation does not equal causation.Again, female bias, if you want something, the courts will likely mandate it for you, you don't have to fight for it. If you had to fight for it you'd understand when it's time not to fight and concede that the deck is stacked against you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 10:04 PM |
| 2 | Correlation does not equal causation.Lighting money on fire and burning it by giving it to a lawyer in a case that can't be won isn't 'Spending it on your own children'. Women have a huge blind spot on this. Here in California the husband would often need to pay for both his lawyer and his wife's lawyer, so women have this attitude like 'No amount is too high, no stone should be unturned' because they aren't paying for it. The courts have a huge bias towards awarding custody to women, even when the women are cheaters, liars and oth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 09:22 PM |
| 3 | Correlation does not equal causation.Bullshit you would. No body capable of earning an excess $20k would spend it when their lawyer told them 'It's unlikely we'd win'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 07:51 PM |
| 2 | Correlation does not equal causation.In the spectrum of all things that can happen, I'm pretty sure probably at some point, all of possibilities have happened. So sure, men can be terrible too. In most cases the man was likely the primary bread winner, so saying 'He doesn't want the children', when he would need to maintain a successful job and do all the homelife severely lets the woman, who at that point would neither work nor watch the kids, have any responsibility at all. Women often get the leftover work not because they want … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 05:28 PM |
| 2 | Correlation does not equal causation.The data linked doesn't account for survivorship bias and draws the natural conclusions that people who don't understand survivorship bias are known to make. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 03:35 PM |
| 13 | CMV: the woman is the prizeThat woman in the video has likely never had a boyfriend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 03:34 PM |
| 1 | Correlation does not equal causation.We are talking about custody, not visitation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 02:48 PM |
| 2 | Correlation does not equal causation.The claim was that it's due to men dodging accountability. In otherwords, it's not the woman's fault. The fact that I know anyone that counters this absolutist statement makes it clear that its false. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 02:47 PM |
| 4 | Correlation does not equal causation.You should familiarize yourself with survivorship bias. Every man I know who went through a divorce was told it was a waste of time to try to get custody of the kids, yet the article claims 94% of men who fight win. How is this possible? The answer is survivorship bias. The only men who fight are the ones where there are such glaring problems with the mother that they are guarenteed to win. This doesn't mean that men don't want their kids because they don't try. It means their lawyer usually say… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 02:39 PM |
| 12 | Correlation does not equal causation.It's more likely the mother drove the father away and refuses him access to his child unless he acts the way she tells him too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 02:27 PM |
| 1 | How do you distinguish between lack of game or lack of initial interest preventing game from working?If a woman is interested, it will be very easy talking to her and you won't need a ton of game. | /r/seduction | 28/07/24 11:35 AM |
| – | DEI programs should end after the college levelThese programs are meant to solve a systemic problem at its roots. I would argue these programs are designed to bypass solving the problem and are simply looking to manufacture results that the designer perceives as better. They try to advantage some groups by discriminating against others. They throw merit and hard work out the window. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 11:29 AM |
| 21 | What to do when she has a boyfriendI feel it would be great if I could steer the convo to a more platonic tone and initiate friendship. Most guys do this as a low key way to try to weasel their way in. Don't waste yours and their time trying to become friends with a woman you are sexually attracted to. All conventionally attractive women have men actively interested in them. So worry less about that and more how she's interacting with you. If she's interested she will show it. She probably won't be interested. | /r/seduction | 28/07/24 11:04 AM |
| – | It is chiefly through the patriarchy that men keep other men in checkI think your point is that feminism exists because men support it. Without male support feminism would look like it looks in Afghanistan. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 12:19 AM |
| – | It is chiefly through the patriarchy that men keep other men in checkI think your point is that feminism exists because men support it. Without male support feminism would look like it looks in Afghanistan. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 12:17 AM |
| – | It is chiefly through the patriarchy that men keep other men in checkI think your point is that feminism exists because men support it. Without male support feminism would look like it looks in Afghanistan. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 12:17 AM |
| 9 | When is a reasonable time and a good reason to ask for a DNA test?The correct time to ask for a DNA test is after you've already given the kids a DNA test and you already know the outcome. DNA tests are a cheek swab, they don't require you getting consent. Just get the kid tested, if there's an issue, then you suggest it and start to bring the issue to the forefront. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/24 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Why not just become a Passport Bro?It's probably going to become more and more the norm. | /r/seduction | 27/07/24 02:00 PM |
| 1 | This subreddit has a “Men Are Wonderful/Victims” bias.In the spectrum of things that can happen I'm sure everything can happen with different or both parties being more at fault. The scenarios are laid out are common place yet you're saying that pretending they don't exist, that it's always mens fault is unbiased. But pointing out the frequent use of pregnancy by women is biased? It happens a lot. It's not the only thing that happens but we shouldn't be afraid of discussing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 04:32 PM |
| -2 | What do men want women to do when they become sexually undesirable as they age?The point is that was her choice. The skills still made her desirable. She just found a man that wasn't bringing to the table as much as she was. Happens all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Calling men "pornsick" is a distraction from the fact that social media has over-exposed women to choiceWell that and pizza delivery women are down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 01:28 PM |
| 2 | What do men want women to do when they become sexually undesirable as they age?I've know women who become single in their 60s and get remarried. I think the women who have figured it out retain value in the sense that they know how to be in a relationship. Sadly, feminism has basically told women that anything they do for a man is sort of demeaning or a failure. So the idea of cooking and cleaning, honestly fairly trivial things get put down as some sort of shameful effort. The reality is, everyone is looking for someone to make their lives better, a good deal if you will.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 02:13 AM |
| 0 | Do you think that men actually want to have children?I think men mostly automaticaly expect that women want children and agree to it to make their woman happy, this I think is vast majority of men. I think you should just speak for yourself on this one. It's your opinion, you're entitled to your opinion, I don't know why you'd attempt to extrapolate that opinion to being all male. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 09:01 PM |
| -2 | I'm tired of people saying that divorce is good for kids.She just became more bitter, more spiteful and less loving towards everyone as time went on. They also split when I was young, she became more spiteful, more bitter and more cold towards everyone. It sounds like your mom was a problem before the divorce and after (and very likely before the affairs). Some people just can't be happy. Based on what you wrote the constant of unhappiness seems to be your mom more so than any divorce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 04:29 PM |
| 0 | Does the "double standard" in promiscuity conclude, intentionally or not, that men are gross and disgusting & women are beautiful and desirable?I think women with fewer sexual partners are desirable. All the data that has been gathered and reviewed shows that as the partners increase that woman's future relationship success decreases. Again you are looking at it through the lens of men vs women. I'm saying women have a window. Your conclusion doesn't account for the window where it may be true a woman is attractive and desirable. She doesn't remain that way through her whole life. Men also have a different attraction window, but it's au… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/24 10:20 PM |
| 0 | Does the "double standard" in promiscuity conclude, intentionally or not, that men are gross and disgusting & women are beautiful and desirable?Your viewpoint misses the fact that women are only sexually desirable for a relatively short window in their life. About a decade. After that, other attributes such as their personality, usefulness, etc become much more important. By 30 men and women are roughly equal. The hyper desirable stage for women is only when they are in their early 20s, it isn't something they've earned through hard work, it's just the reality of the biology. So your assertion that women are beautiful and desirable, onl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/24 10:10 PM |
| 5 | Does the "double standard" in promiscuity conclude, intentionally or not, that men are gross and disgusting & women are beautiful and desirable?This "double standard" is one of the most prominent beliefs within the manosphere. It's only a double standard because you don't accept the differing sexual experiences of men and women. A young/fertile woman has unlimited sexual opportunity. This is not necessarily a good thing. Most of those opportunities will be with men they don't find remotely desirable. The skill women need to learn is how to select good candidates. This is them choosing to limit their acceptance of this sexual opportunity… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/24 08:52 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men who are concerned about being 'Beta-Buxxed', shouldn't complain about being 'Friendzoned'many RP men are absolutely angry at being friend-zoned and extremely bitter at women for doing so. Being friendzoned isn't something I'd get angry about, I'd just lose interest and move on. Why do you think it's necessary to be angry or bitter over it. She's not interested, I'm not interested. I think you are confusing when someone gives advice and it's stressed to avoid the friendzone that this translates into bitterness. It's only stressed because young men sometimes think that it's a good use… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/24 03:29 PM |
| 0 | Women don’t wear revealing outfits for male attentionWell obviously they do it for themselves. That's why they wear revealing outfits and full makeup while sitting around the house when no one will see them. 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 01:35 PM |
| 1 | This subreddit has a “Men Are Wonderful/Victims” bias.Yes, but feminists don't like to talk about how women use pregnancy. Not all women, but many. Guy she's sleeping with is sought after by many women, she's competing for his affection, she thinks, I will win if I have his baby. She gets pregnant, guy still is into some other woman and doesn't stay, she then angrily tries to punish him with the mindset, he only gets to see his baby if he's with me. 2.Everyone tells her the guy she is dating is a complete loser and she concocts this plan to show ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 01:34 PM |
| – | This subreddit has a “Men Are Wonderful/Victims” bias.Women have the right to choose and often choose poorly. If men had the right to choose they would be judged on their choices too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 02:15 AM |
| 1 | Instead of complaining about being pumped and dumped, women should try to understand why some men only seem to value them for only sex...namely that they don't add much to a man's lifeYou should be you.... Just be yourself. Of course, I mean who else would you be? If you have to be more than your genuine self to impress her, she's not for you. I think, as a man, you start off giving what you want to give to a woman which is 100%. But when you realize she's giving 30% you have to decide is it worth you giving 100% while receiving 30% and the answer is no, so as part of your dumping process you just pull back while you start to look for a woman who's on your level. What you are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 01:18 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about "men like woman more than the other way around"?The sexual strategy for men is spreading our seed. We could theoretically impregnate multiple women a day if we had the opportunity so men have evolved the desire and attraction to pursue sexual opportunities. Women pay a much steeper price biologically for getting pregnant. Their body is locked down for 9 months and the baby occupies their time for the first few years, so the consequences of sex for the vast majority of human history landed on women much, much more. So it's no surprise that wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 04:35 AM |
| 1 | Instead of complaining about being pumped and dumped, women should try to understand why some men only seem to value them for only sex...namely that they don't add much to a man's lifeYou shouldn't be doing this you can't maintain. 100% agree. But you don't keep it up if she can't offer similar reciprocal effort. You end up pulling back when you realize you're being taken advantage of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 03:42 AM |
| 1 | "you are not entitled to sex. It is not a necessity" is a bad argumentIf they want to sure. Not everybody wants to have as much sex as may and that's there choice. The issue comes up however when one partner withholds sex. And by withhold I don't mean says no one time, for weeks or even months. That's when it's clear one person is not participating in monogamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 03:40 AM |
| – | "you are not entitled to sex. It is not a necessity" is a bad argumentWell consent is an import topic in relationships and in my opinion all sex should be consensual, so in that sense no one is owed anything. Where I see the argument around entitlement and sex is in marriages as in you the husband are not entitled to sex with your wife whenever you want, which I agree with. My counterpoint is simply that monogamy is two things. An agreement to not sleep with other people and an agreement to sleep with each other. If you aren't sleeping with each other, that's call… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 06:07 PM |
| 4 | Girls from Tinder disappear after whatsapp chatting.Probably just a bot harvesting numbers to sell online. | /r/seduction | 18/07/24 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Do Most Redpillers Here Consider Themselves “Alpha” Or “Beta”?You are probably confusing black pilled men who learned about red pill and then turned black pill with men who have done the work. Most people avoid things that are hard, improving yourself is hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 05:49 PM |
| 2 | Do Most Redpillers Here Consider Themselves “Alpha” Or “Beta”?I think you are seeing what you want to see. Men can either try to entice/attract women for what they can do for them (beta) or they can entice/attract them for who they are and how they live, which is most definitely partially a mindset. I struggled with dating in my 20s but by my 30s I was totally rolling for the most part I had learned what women wanted from me and had reached a point in my career I was pretty successful. I didn't discover RP until my late 40s and it aligned with about 20-30%… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 05:39 PM |
| 1 | Do Most Redpillers Here Consider Themselves “Alpha” Or “Beta”?He doesn't use his vast resources to get sex, that's the difference. A beta has to be a provider to get laid. Chris Brown gets laid and can be obnoxious about not paying for things and the women would still flock to him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 05:24 PM |
| 1 | Do Most Redpillers Here Consider Themselves “Alpha” Or “Beta”?To answer your question, I was raised to be blue pilled (as I think most men are). I'm definitely not a chad but at times I've gotten myself in shape enough to experience chad-lite results. RP mostly has given me better clarity on not simping for women and focusing on making my life better. Contrary to popular opinion I'm still nice to women, I have loving relationships. I'm just much more aware of the dynamics that women use to manipulate and I allow women to manipulate me in directions I'm hap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Do Most Redpillers Here Consider Themselves “Alpha” Or “Beta”?Sadly RP does not use the terms Alpha and Beta the way scientists due. Scientist used to describe an Alpha as like a leader (such as a leader of a wolfpack). Long before RP people used to refer to someone as 'Type A', usually an aggressive, salesman type. Inconveniently RP re-used the term Alpha to refer to men with attractive characteristics and Beta for deferrential provider characteristsics. It actually has nothing to do with wolfpacks or Type a salesmen or anything like that. Many alphas are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 04:32 PM |
| 1 | If women wanted marriage and commitment onlyHonestly I think this is a female misperception. Men first verify sexual access and then get serious about evaluating a woman as relationship material. This is the opposite way around compared with women. Women will first decide if a guy is worthy of a relationship (either short or long term), they will ignore men who don't fit in either category, but after a woman decides a guy is worth a short or long term relationship she will have sex. This means when two people have sex, generally speaking,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 02:24 AM |
| 6 | If women wanted marriage and commitment onlyI think the key element you are missing is that these women assume or think they can change these guys. They basically think it would take less work to make an attractive guy be committed than to take a committed unattractive guy and somehow make him attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 01:40 AM |
| 8 | Friends of perpetually single men often have a different perspective than perpetually single men themselvesThe core tenant of RP is to start to work on self improvement in all areas, looks maxing, social skills, job performance, self grooming, overall competence, etc. It sounds like you are confusing black pill for red pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 08:00 PM |
| 1 | In the False Paternity Scenarios We've Been Discussing, What Would Be "Fair" Restorative Justice for the Deceived Partner?Yes, today he isn't given the choice to reassess what he wants to do after discovering that he has been lied to and exploited. And you can be assured if he sues to no longer owe child support the mother will block him from seeing the kid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 12:25 AM |
| 1 | In the False Paternity Scenarios We've Been Discussing, What Would Be "Fair" Restorative Justice for the Deceived Partner?I know, I'm proposing an alternative, where he has the right to be in the kids life so that if he has the compassion to he can stay in the kids life, but no obligation to the mother. A guy who finds out today that he's not the father is stuck as the de facto father with payments. He'd literally have to fight in court to get himself off the hook of paying for the child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 12:11 AM |
| 3 | In the False Paternity Scenarios We've Been Discussing, What Would Be "Fair" Restorative Justice for the Deceived Partner?He shouldn't have to pay child support for a child that is not his. It should be his choice if he wishes to be in the child's life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 12:04 AM |
| 2 | In the False Paternity Scenarios We've Been Discussing, What Would Be "Fair" Restorative Justice for the Deceived Partner?The difference being that he wouldn't have financial obligation to the courts or mother over the child, just the option to see him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 11:04 PM |
| 3 | In the False Paternity Scenarios We've Been Discussing, What Would Be "Fair" Restorative Justice for the Deceived Partner?The issue is that the mother likely wouldn't have the money and having her pay it back while raising the child would adversely effect the child. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 10:48 PM |
| 4 | In the False Paternity Scenarios We've Been Discussing, What Would Be "Fair" Restorative Justice for the Deceived Partner?Yes it would allow him to be relieved of having financial responsibility but he could still assume a role in the child's life if he wished too (and could pay for things at his own discretion). Most women who would do this, would take away his access to the child the moment he stopped giving her child support (without regard for the impact on the child). This would unilaterally block that behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 10:47 PM |
| 3 | In the False Paternity Scenarios We've Been Discussing, What Would Be "Fair" Restorative Justice for the Deceived Partner?Literally none of them are. He'd have zero rights to see the child if the mother didn't allow it, he would still be on the hook for child support if he had assumed a parental role, and what the woman has done isn't even a crime and would have no repayments associated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 10:45 PM |
| 1 | Feminists who say, "I support women's wrongs" ... what do you mean?Can you give an example of a woman being judged more harshly? I mean women face lessor prison sentences and lower conviction rates for the same crimes. Generally speaking women are treated like children by the courts in terms of responsibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 10:42 PM |
| 7 | In the False Paternity Scenarios We've Been Discussing, What Would Be "Fair" Restorative Justice for the Deceived Partner?Allow defrauded man to have visitation if he should choose to do so, to encourage continuity for the child (child's best interest) No child support Mother repays debt to man after child turns 18. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 08:17 PM |
| 8 | In the False Paternity Scenarios We've Been Discussing, What Would Be "Fair" Restorative Justice for the Deceived Partner?Guaranteed visitation rights with the child. This would encourage the man to maintain a relationship with the child if he wishes and would prevent the mother from holding the son hostage in an attempt to manipulate the man. No child support, all financial support for the child would be optional and discretionary, the only carrot to encourage support would be his right to visitation should he choose to exercise it. A restoration plan for paying back money clearly spent on the child that the man s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 08:14 PM |
| 12 | What are ways a girl can play hard to get, whilst showing she is interested?Hard-to-get his a game you play that amuses you. It isn't a game men enjoy or want to play. You could just as easily ask 'How do I not tell my waiter what I want for dinner, but still get him to bring me what I want for dinner?' However you accomplish that you'll just annoy your waiter. What would be wrong with being fun, flirtatious and agreeable? | /r/seduction | 16/07/24 07:10 PM |
| 7 | Men: do you like a girl more if she subtly rejects you ?It sounds like he likes you when he's around to like you. | /r/seduction | 16/07/24 05:54 PM |
| 1 | Do you think formerly promiscuous women are mostly disadvantaged in the dating market at least when it comes to getting commitment /marriage?hooking up because he's attractive is prioritizing hooking up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 05:10 PM |
| 1 | Would you pay $2500 to join a dating service/app if all the women on there were thin, had a partner count under 10 and wanted marriage and kids?I had thought of a dating app where you had to be voted in by other members based on your photos. Or you could buy your way in... That way all the women would be attractive and all the guys would be attractive or they'd have money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 03:37 PM |
| 2 | Do you think formerly promiscuous women are mostly disadvantaged in the dating market at least when it comes to getting commitment /marriage?Yes, but usually someone like that would rather leave and find someone new than to hear that they could improve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 05:14 PM |
| 5 | Do you think formerly promiscuous women are mostly disadvantaged in the dating market at least when it comes to getting commitment /marriage?I think it would reflect in their relationship skills and calling them out on their selfishness and unwillingness to bring much to the table. It wouldn't be the count directly as it's unlikely you'd know their count. It would be their behavior instilled from prioritizing hooking up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 04:34 PM |
| 4 | Do you think formerly promiscuous women are mostly disadvantaged in the dating market at least when it comes to getting commitment /marriage?Why should women have to be “accountable?” Why should women not be accountable? Shouldn't everyone be held accountable? As an example, if some one steals from you and they lie about it but you start watching more closely and you catch them, if it's a woman, are you saying it's inappropriate to hold her accountable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 03:47 PM |
| 11 | Do you think formerly promiscuous women are mostly disadvantaged in the dating market at least when it comes to getting commitment /marriage?So women don't walk around with their number on their forehead. So objectively attractive women will basically get endless opportunities. Where it hurts them is in their lack of relationship skills and that their easiest out is just to find someone new who will give them a clean slate as a means of avoiding accountability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 01:02 PM |
| – | Instead of complaining about being pumped and dumped, women should try to understand why some men only seem to value them for only sex...namely that they don't add much to a man's lifeSpeaking for myself I used to be conflict avoidant, so when I was losing interest in a woman it was easier to put less effort in and she would just break up. To be clear when you're young this works great. Young women dump you quick. As you age though, women try to hang on to relationships more and you are just pathetically hoping she breaks up. After I learned about RP I just have accepted it's not my job to please everyone, so I've accepted conflict, handled with integrity, is just a better wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 12:54 PM |
| – | Instead of complaining about being pumped and dumped, women should try to understand why some men only seem to value them for only sex...namely that they don't add much to a man's lifeIt's the early stages of 'Where are all the good guys?' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 01:34 AM |
| 4 | The gender wage gap is caused by men not doing enough parenting.Imagine how fortunate an able bodied person is to get to spend time raising their child and not needing to work. Such an underrated luxury. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 09:38 PM |
| – | Instead of complaining about being pumped and dumped, women should try to understand why some men only seem to value them for only sex...namely that they don't add much to a man's lifeThese women are projecting their failed relationship skills on these men. They think they are showing up for the relationship but they are showing up with nothing, so the guy leaves. He was giving it a try and wasn't interested. She labels him a player who only wanted sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 09:37 PM |
| 3 | The gender wage gap is caused by men not doing enough parenting.There is no wage gap for same job, experience, hours worked. The remaining wage gap comes from peoples choices (like men taking dirtier, higher paying jobs, vs women taking more social jobs). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Which gender has it far worse when it comes to being cruelly rejected?I think the big flaw in this comparison is that your answer is 'is it men' or 'is it women', but you're failing to distinguish Chad and Tyrone vs an average frustrated Chump. They aren't the same guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 07:11 PM |
| 8 | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menAlright but your negative connotation don't make it 'hating women' or 'anti woman'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 07:09 PM |
| 6 | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menNah, you don't understand the word. Everyone has a mating strategy. The female dating strategy, is a duel mating strategy and it leads to an experience that to men, feels like a game is being played. It isn't anti-woman or hateful of women to acknowledge that they, just as men, navigate the world with a strategy. What your doing is a subtle tactic. Misogyny calls out men who truly hate women or want to control them or abuse them. You are using that word quite intentionally to invoke a social res… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Men who are not conventionally attractive, why not date a bi woman/queer women who are into men?I went through a phase of trying to date only bisexual women. The main goal being to have a steady stream of threesomes. All I can say is mo-women mo-problems. The bi/lesbian community is complicated with many land mines to step on and ways of insulting a gender fluid person. You really need to immerse yourself in a way of thinking that is very foreign to most men and quite frankly a bit uncomfortable. There's more than a little misandry in the lesbian community. After securing the main objectiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 05:40 PM |
| 5 | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menSerious question, why do you think my comment is misogynistic? What element of it implies that I 'hate women'? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 05:34 PM |
| 4 | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menYou seem to have a very surface level understanding of RP. I think women try to label it as misogyny because the hope to dismiss it. They don't want men understanding the games women play. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 05:14 PM |
| 3 | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menIt's why I say we live in a matriarchy. The matriarchy's main job is pretending they are fighting a patriarchy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 05:12 PM |
| 97 | Instead of complaining about being pumped and dumped, women should try to understand why some men only seem to value them for only sex...namely that they don't add much to a man's lifeI think a lot of women get addicted to the courting phase. This is where the man is trying to get their attention. The wining and dining phase. Traditionally if a woman becomes interested it becomes her turn to then start to show him what she can do for his life. So a lot of women just skip that step, they go out, get wined and dined, then do nothing and move on to the next dog and pony show. They are addicted to the early phase attention. This prevents them from developing relationship skills a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 05:10 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Men shouldn't be expected to pay for kids who are not his. If kids ars not his, why should he be their daddy?30% of cases using online testing. 4-10% for the generation population. It's always amazing that 1 out of 25 kids could involve paternity fraud and women are like 'yeah see, no big deal'. On the low end it's 1 in 25, worst case 1 in 3 not 1 in 25 million. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 12:41 AM |
| 3 | CMV : Men shouldn't be expected to pay for kids who are not his. If kids ars not his, why should he be their daddy?Jesus, you really do like to argue. I've offered why I think tests should be mandatory and you literally keep arguing that it isn't necessary. You literally are arguing that your way is the way to handle it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 11:14 PM |
| 2 | CMV : Men shouldn't be expected to pay for kids who are not his. If kids ars not his, why should he be their daddy?You seem to struggle with your solution being the only solution. Most people aren't as interested and drama and conflict as you. How about this. I'm glad you and your partner were able to come to a satisfactory solution to his wanting assurance of paternity. I don't know why you are acting like that's the only viable solution. Or even really like a top 3 solution for most people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 11:02 PM |
| 2 | CMV : Men shouldn't be expected to pay for kids who are not his. If kids ars not his, why should he be their daddy?I'm for a solution that doesn't stigmatize or accuse anyone and also doesn't require anyone to stand up and proclaim they want it with the risk their partner will be offended. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 10:57 PM |
| 5 | CMV : Men shouldn't be expected to pay for kids who are not his. If kids ars not his, why should he be their daddy?You've got it flipped on its head. Paternity fraud is a problem exactly because men trust the women they are with. In 10-30% of the cases that trust is misplaced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 10:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Men shouldn't be expected to pay for kids who are not his. If kids ars not his, why should he be their daddy?Or better yet, just go for 50/50 custody and eliminate child support altogether. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 10:36 PM |
| 2 | CMV : Men shouldn't be expected to pay for kids who are not his. If kids ars not his, why should he be their daddy?He can get a test and not be responsible for supporting that child. And you're saying women will not be bothered by this? If so, fantastic. The biggest hurdle at present is the matriachy's view that asking for a DNA test is equivalent to accusing your partner of cheating. So men are discouraged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 10:35 PM |
| 2 | CMV : Men shouldn't be expected to pay for kids who are not his. If kids ars not his, why should he be their daddy?Yeah just make it mandatory and so many problems will just go away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 10:33 PM |
| 5 | CMV : Men shouldn't be expected to pay for kids who are not his. If kids ars not his, why should he be their daddy?Women are really good liars. Why make it an accusation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 10:32 PM |
| 6 | CMV : Men shouldn't be expected to pay for kids who are not his. If kids ars not his, why should he be their daddy?Lol, that's what RP has been saying for years, it's women's groups who oppose it and train women to take it as an insult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 10:20 PM |
| 3 | CMV : Men shouldn't be expected to pay for kids who are not his. If kids ars not his, why should he be their daddy?But not in the case of kids. If you've assumed a parental role, the courts won't let something like a DNA test come between your wallet and that kid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 10:19 PM |
| 2 | CMV : Men shouldn't be expected to pay for kids who are not his. If kids ars not his, why should he be their daddy?Exactly why it needs to be mandatory, so no ill will is perceived. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 10:18 PM |
| 3 | CMV : Men shouldn't be expected to pay for kids who are not his. If kids ars not his, why should he be their daddy?Who made you sign the birth certificate? In most states a husband is the presumed father. Married men, outside of France, aren't forced to sign it either and can request a paternity test. Georgia just passed a law regarding paternity testing and women are freaking out. Outside of that law most women threaten divorce if a husband demands a paternity test. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 10:17 PM |
| 3 | Housework splitBut which one is it empirically? I believe that as a human bein (regardless of gender) you get better return in free time vs cleanliness if you do it my way. The point is no one is right. Within reason of course, like I said there are minimums, living in squalor and in a room that looks like a hoarder is objectively not on par with a tidy room. Agreeing to let your partner have their way by setting the standard is the compromise. I'm not signing up for their work. I'm signing up to not argue abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 04:19 PM |
| 5 | Housework splitI think the other part of the equation on housework is who cares more. In other words, living with someone you have a reasonable expectation of you each not leaving messes, cleaning up after oneself, being able to tidy up. But beyond that, often one partner will have a much higher standard. Like expecting vacuuming every day vs say once a week. In that case, the person who cares about this level of clean is the one who's going to do it. The compromise is, you want to vacuum daily, I'm fine with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 03:59 PM |
| -2 | Housework splitThe amount of money made doesn't necessarily correlate to how hard someone works. No, but it does correlate to how they contribute financially. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 03:55 PM |
| – | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menCue the women claiming redpill is delusional, woman are basically red pilled by default. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.I doubt you're even aware of it and probably dismiss your ovulatory shift as not being real either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 04:20 AM |
| 1 | If men actually cared about single moms as a “societal issue”, they would be encouraging men to be stepfathers.Nah, they just encourage men to go easy, and we do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 02:57 AM |
| 1 | If men actually cared about single moms as a “societal issue”, they would be encouraging men to be stepfathers.Okay we will artificially reduce boys ability to produce testosterone so they can't grow to be bigger than girls, Getting men to hold back has been the strategy of feminism for years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 02:03 AM |
| 1 | If men actually cared about single moms as a “societal issue”, they would be encouraging men to be stepfathers.The 30% figure (and the 4% figure you were talking about earlier) come from a 2005 scientific No the 30% comes from DNA testing companies and is pretty much industry standard. The debate around general population numbers is ongoing, but several studies target closer to 10%. One of the more interesting ones was related to cystic fibrosis testing. When children have symptoms of cystic fibrosis they test both parents, both parents would need to possess the gene for the disease. Looking at historica… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 01:20 AM |
| 2 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.Yeah silly me, believing a woman. What man in 2024 would do such a thing. /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 01:12 AM |
| 3 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.I didn't discover RP until maybe 2-3 years ago. The reason I gravitated towards it was that probably 25%-40% of it matched my experience exactly. My life experience matched with it so perfectly. I understand that men understanding female dating strategy isn't in their best interest, but dismissing it as delusion isn't going to work on someone who saw it years before even hearing the term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 11:59 PM |
| 1 | If men actually cared about single moms as a “societal issue”, they would be encouraging men to be stepfathers.No about 4% of those who are tested men who's mrs is not cheating on them are a lot less likely to get a paternity test than men fucking whores. No that number is 30%. 30% of men seeking a DNA test are not the father. That is different than the general population which is somewhere between 4-10% depending on which study and methodology used for determining it. My argument is simple. Make a baby, raise a baby. No get out of jail free cards for anyone. And what of paternity fraud? What's your reme… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 11:58 PM |
| 3 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.I've seen it happen over and over again. It's okay, we can be honest here. No need to pretend for the blue pilled guys, they will still beta for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 11:05 PM |
| 1 | If men actually cared about single moms as a “societal issue”, they would be encouraging men to be stepfathers.Should a man who has a 10 year old be able to opt out? I think we have some reading comprehension issues here. My suggestion was he'd have some time period (I offered 12 weeks) from the time of birth or when he's informed of the child. So no, a father can't be in a child's life for 10 years and then opt out. But if a woman a man hasn't seen in a decade shows up with a 10 year old in tow, then he'd have some time to process it and to decide. The person's rights that should be protected is the chi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 11:01 PM |
| 1 | Is this boring?I think you need to broaden your appeal by being less boring. Don't get me wrong I'm not telling you to do things you don't like, I'm telling you to pick something that you can get behind that will give you a social outlet. Otherwise your dating pool will just be too small. Consider taking a dance class. | /r/seduction | 12/07/24 08:41 PM |
| 9 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.Based on observing her behavior. A woman telling a guy things like 'I'm more into a guy's heart and personality', 'I don't care about the guy who is the life of the party, I care about the guy who's there for me when I need him'. etc, is grooming a beta male. And you know this when you find out that one weekend a month she goes to a party and gets banged by the hot popular guy who doesn't care about her. It's the basis of a duel mating strategy that women participate in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 08:20 PM |
| 3 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.But they give them a chance at a lessor status role. That of the beta provider. Nothing is more heart breaking for a guy who's been bending over backwards for a woman he thinks is amazing only to find out that she tells you she's not interested in dating meanwhile she gets run through by obnoxious losers who bad mouth and laugh at her behind her back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 07:53 PM |
| 3 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.Well of course, Chad treatment is basically the treatment most women receive. It's the only treatment that is worth accepting. The alternative is being treated as trash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 07:51 PM |
| 9 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.The point is, looks matter to the woman who is telling you looks don't matter to her. She's virtue signaling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 07:50 PM |
| 2 | The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice.There's a portion of feminism which argues for rights for all people and equality of all kinds. There's also a portion of feminism that seemingly hates men and is openly misandrist. It's hard to debate a two headed beast like this because when you point out laws that are unfair to men they trot out the 'everyone is equal' figure heads and then quietly let the anti male lobby do their work under the guise of it being equal. Just look at paternity laws, child support and family law in general to s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 04:58 PM |
| 8 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women. I think what is shocking is that attractiveness seems to matter more to women and women rate the majority of men unattractive. Men have always been driven by looks, but men find 60% of women at least somewhat attractive. That means a woman who's a 4 has guys saying she's alright. Women see a guy who's and 8 and consider him mid. So it's not that women find looks important it's that they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 04:44 PM |
| 20 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.Literally women will tell you that looks don't matter to them. Women virtue signal all the time that what attracts them isn't looks. It's their main form of grooming beta males. If you are good looking you maybe don't experience this, but if you are not good looking women wanting you to do things for them will tell you all the time that your personality makes you cute or that your humor makes you cute and they like guys like that. I think you totally out of touch if you think men are making this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 04:40 PM |
| 1 | If men actually cared about single moms as a “societal issue”, they would be encouraging men to be stepfathers.if you want to give up your parental rights you have to go through a legal process to do this. Do you have any information on this? Is it just for mothers or can fathers do the same? Men take the risk of becoming a parent when they have sex, just like women do. No you've missed the point. Women can say any man is the father and put his name on the birth certificate. We had a case in the US where a maid saw a used condom in the trash of a professional athlete and she used the sperm inside to impr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 04:32 PM |
| 1 | If men actually cared about single moms as a “societal issue”, they would be encouraging men to be stepfathers.Ideally yes, but biology is not equal so this isn't really going to work in practice. Biology has nothing to do with it. A women for example has full right to abort a child or carry it to term. Agreed, but most states have safe harbor laws that allow a woman to leave a baby at a hospital no questions asked. She doesn't need to give her name, she will no longer be responsible for the baby. She will no longer be the babies mother. Look it up. Why are men forced to be parents and not women? This is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 04:07 AM |
| 1 | New Research Finds Huge Differences Between Male and Female BrainsHow new is this, I thought Borat mentioned Kazakhstani scientist who made similar discovery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 01:11 AM |
| 7 | If men actually cared about single moms as a “societal issue”, they would be encouraging men to be stepfathers.Right, so we've been trying that and the outcomes are terrible, so it's time to look in another direction and give men the same rights as women. Do you believe in equal rights? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 12:50 AM |
| 16 | If men actually cared about single moms as a “societal issue”, they would be encouraging men to be stepfathers.Trapping men is a technique women have used for millennia. If you allowed men the same rights as women in terms of becoming a parent, then men could inform a woman who is pregnant that he plans on not being a parent. This would mirror the safe harbor laws that allow women to give up children no questions asked with no parental responsibilities. If this were the case I think you'd eliminate a lot of attempts at trapping men which would lead to fewer single moms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 12:37 AM |
| 13 | Invited me for the weekend but last minute she says she's "dating" an old friend.Any woman who is smokin' hot is going to have a long list of guys who are interested. Her interest will wax and wane depending on how available the guys she's most interested are. If you are thinking something casual then keep it light and don't read too much into it. Head over and what happens happens. | /r/seduction | 11/07/24 02:08 PM |
| 1 | People here say that women have no empathy for men but I have noticed that men have 0 empathy for divorced men unless they're divorced themselvesBlue pill thinking asks questions like 'He must have treated her horribly' or 'I wonder what he was doing to drive her to this'. When you go red pill you hold everyone accountable for their actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 01:57 PM |
| 7 | Why do so many guys have a seething hatred for single moms?Just get back with your baby's dad, put your child first. Stop harassing us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 01:56 PM |
| 4 | Why do so many guys have a seething hatred for single moms?Because guys look out for each other. You want to let the younger guys know that it's a bad deal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 01:35 PM |
| 1 | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?Right and my point is, after 40, why would you marry, you just date. You date as long as it's fun and move on when it isn't. You don't sign up and involve the government if no kids are involved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 01:31 PM |
| 2 | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?It sounds like in your world, it's always the man's fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 09:27 PM |
| – | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?If your spouse stops working to take care of your children their career is stalled,is that fair? If your husband makes 5x what you make, quitting work IS the reward. Your lifestyle is substantially upgrading. You're implying the woman is giving up all this money when in fact she's receiving access to a much richer lifestyle. What would be wrong with her returning to a trajectory more consistent with what she had built for herself. Why is she entitled to a lifestyle she didn't earn and has chosen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 09:25 PM |
| 1 | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?If I end up single again I would just to rent not buy. Keep them around as long as it's fun, send them on their way when they start complaining. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 08:34 PM |
| – | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?As always you guys just can’t understand that the person who files the legal paperwork isn’t the one who ended the marriage. Right, it's the man's fault, we know 🙄. Unless you know the reasons why the woman is filing, your stats are meaningless. You cited a valid example. But usually it's the woman cheating and blaming the husband because she't not communicated anything and is now upset that mind reading has failed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 08:34 PM |
| – | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?You are missing the point. The root cause of the unhappiness is the women. They can't leave it because they bring it with themselves wherever they go, leaving a trail of broken lives behind them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 08:31 PM |
| 1 | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?Agreed, it's slim pickings unfortunately. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 06:23 PM |
| 1 | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?It wouldn't happen if the family courts were balanced out so that both partners shared risk of failure in the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 04:55 PM |
| – | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?I have a friend who put his wife's name on the title of his home as a sign of his commitment. She was a stay at home mom and she spent her days having affairs (mostly online) but also a few times a year in person. She left, took the home that he had bought before meeting her. You're telling me a woman who enters a man's life with nothing, from day one starts looking for her next upgrade has been participating in the relationship in good faith? Then the courts decide to give her his home? It's ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 03:27 PM |
| – | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?And then lose half their stuff to a partner who never tried. Protecting women in divorce (at the expense of men) has made women put zero effort into relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 02:58 PM |
| – | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?And how many women do you know who are happy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 02:43 PM |
| – | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?Happy mothers raise well adjusted children. How many happy women do you know? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 02:38 PM |
| – | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?Most men I know have to deal with pretty awful, narcissistic, entitled wives. It's just how women are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 02:37 PM |
| – | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?And it is true, many women are miserable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 02:34 PM |
| – | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?You mean to get custody? Unless she has a drug habit, probably not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 02:34 PM |
| – | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?It depends on how old the woman is, a woman who is still fertile has a decent shot of finding a man, a woman past 40 is going to struggle finding a serious relationship. And I'll be honest, it's never occurred to me that it would be tough finding another woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 02:32 PM |
| – | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?They are unfair to the higher income earner who bears the entire financial risk of the relationship. Paternity laws are unfair as they don't criminalize paternity fraud. Unless a state supports 50/50 custody with zero child support they are unfair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 02:30 PM |
| 11 | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?I've told this story multiple times. A friend of mine kept dealing with his ex's bullshit. She'd tell him to drive an hour to pick up his son and then she wouldn't be home. She'd ignore count ordered visitation. It got to the point the courts told him they would put her in jail for 30 days if he could watch his son. The only problem was he couldn't take him out of school, he needed to bring his son to school and pick him up. The hour drive made that impossible. The only other option was the mate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 06:05 AM |
| 6 | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?The context of our conversation was people staying in not ideal relationships. Obviously it would be better if both parents have a mutually supportive and loving relationship. Though in my experience those type of relationships result from effort and don't just magically happen. I'm talking about when you realize your spouse is trash and you are focusing on giving your kids the best upbringing you can and you know having the wife leave and block you from them is not in their best interest. AT th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 05:51 AM |
| 1 | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?Why is the dad not there just because they got divorced? Because women go out of there way to drive away men if they aren't getting anything from them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 05:47 AM |
| 5 | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?And if divorce laws and the family court were fair to men, then none of these stats would matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 05:31 AM |
| 2 | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?Children of single moms have the worst outcomes of all children with the exception of foster care. Where is the data supporting the idea that women suddenly become competent parents when they leave the father of the children? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 05:29 AM |
| 7 | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?I'd ask different questions. Are his children happy and in a loving environment. Does he think he's doing is fair share. Women conveniently ignore most of what men contribute and then ask to split all of their work. So a woman saying a guy doesn't do enough is great for online, but falls apart in the real world. I think women are just so used to life on easy mode, they struggle to even imagine what real work is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 05:28 AM |
| 1 | Ethically sex shouldn’t be considered a fundamental need like food, water and shelter.Well I can say for me, I like sex 2-3x (usually more like 3x) a week. Does that mean I get it? Well no, first of all my partner has rough periods and so for a week each month I definitely get nothing. Then there's just life's interruptions, busy schedules. Some times I'll get sex once in two weeks. But I'm fine with it because we have our kids and we live full lives. But she knows in my perfect world, it would be several times a week. Now sometimes you hear a woman who has sex once a month or on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 05:25 AM |
| 6 | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?Emo bands is the extent of your data research? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 03:06 AM |
| 0 | Women's standards aren't high the average man has nothing of value to offer.Not that meets their standards. The men they want, don't want them. Just like incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 01:45 AM |
| -3 | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?I agree. Men put their family ahead of their happiness, women put their happiness ahead of the family. I don't think that's the flex you seem to think it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 01:44 AM |
| 4 | Women's standards aren't high the average man has nothing of value to offer.Do you realize all the boss babes in their late 30s and 40s who can't find the super man that meets their standards who actually is attracted to them are the equivalent to male incels? We have more women today who can't find a man who is attracted to them that meets their standards. They've priced themselves out of the market. They won't have kids. Their DNA won't get passed on. Their will be fewer of those types of people in 100 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 01:31 AM |
| 16 | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?Look at who initiates divorce. 76% of the time it's the woman. That figure climbs to 90% if the woman is college educated. Men generally speaking will sacrifice their happiness for their family. Women are the ones who sacrifice their family for their happiness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Women's standards aren't high the average man has nothing of value to offer.I don't totally disagree, but have you realized the same is true for women? Most women bring little to no value as well, often times they bring kids. I think your observation is one that's more telling your own story. People get together because they like being together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 01:24 AM |
| 34 | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?I have a great boyfriend of a few years but get paranoid at the thought of him potentially wanting someone younger as we age. Based on relationship data women don't have a lot to fear in terms of men leaving. Men see marriage as a lifelong commitment. In most cases women who become single did so because they chose to get divorced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Women in their 20s usually like guys our/their own ageThey got to go on the trip of a lifetime and have great memories. Is living a great life not enough? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 09:03 PM |
| 2 | Women in their 20s usually like guys our/their own ageThe three I'm thinking of are all married with kids. One's a lawyer, the other a Dentist, one moved back to Brazil and I can't understand her posts in facebook because they are all in Portuguese, but she is a smart woman and I'm sure she's doing fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 08:39 PM |
| – | Women in their 20s usually like guys our/their own ageIt's delusional to think 1+1 should equal 7. All the women have to do is up their game. They are single because they offer a bad value proposition. Re-read my posts. You've missed the plot entirely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 07:41 PM |
| – | Women in their 20s usually like guys our/their own ageIt’s delusional to think that wanting a serious relationship is “games” Well how else would you describe it? Single women in their 40s usually don't know why they are single. They don't bring anything to the relationship and wonder why men don't commit to them. So their game is to pretend they are easy going and are straight forward, when instead they are pulling their hair out wondering why they aren't enough. I'd rather spend time in the fresh produce aisle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 07:30 PM |
| 4 | What actions make a man look like a creep? And what’s the difference between a guy checking out a hot girl vs a girl checking out a hot guy?I think you given a good description. It's not necessarily contradicting anything I've said, just giving more of an experiential description of what a woman is thinking. And I agree with what you said. What's interesting is that if the guy ticks the right boxes, and has caught her attention, she will seemingly suppress this instinct. | /r/seduction | 09/07/24 06:41 PM |
| 5 | What actions make a man look like a creep? And what’s the difference between a guy checking out a hot girl vs a girl checking out a hot guy?I guess the key question is, are you one of those guys? | /r/seduction | 09/07/24 06:38 PM |
| – | Women in their 20s usually like guys our/their own ageOf course a woman is going to enjoy a free vacation. Exactly, and the short term nature/low commitment component of it puts the tone of the adventure as 'Let's just have fun and make this a memorable trip." You bypass a lot of questions like 'What are we?" and "Where is this going?". The vibe is more 'Well I've never done this before, but I can't imagine a better time to try it." One woman told me 'You've changed what I look for in a man'. The point is, do you think I care if 7 out of 10 younger… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 06:33 PM |
| – | Women in their 20s usually like guys our/their own ageUsually it turns into several trips. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 05:26 PM |
| 16 | What actions make a man look like a creep? And what’s the difference between a guy checking out a hot girl vs a girl checking out a hot guy?Yeah, to be clear, I wasn't saying that men get a pass to act however they want. I was walking with my partner on July 4th and a group of 5 or 6 guys sort of stopped talking and just stared at her as we walked by (she's very attractive) and it was awkward. There is 100% a legitimate thing of unwanted sexual attention. My point was more that OP seemed petrified of being creepy and that's just way too much of a concern. Just treat women like normal people and if they still want to call you creepy … | /r/seduction | 09/07/24 05:24 PM |
| – | Women in their 20s usually like guys our/their own agelol, that's hilarious. Imagine having so little going on you can sit around and talk to people you don't want to date and seeing that as a flex. I love it. Needless to say, the women I took on trips thought differently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 05:19 PM |
| – | Women in their 20s usually like guys our/their own ageThe difference between 20 and 25-27 is night and day. A 20 year old is probably living off her parents still and so the idea of money being important is still years away. Her dad will just buy her stuff. Most 20 year olds would be more interested in looks and status. But when I was in my early 40s, asking out a 26-27 year old was no big deal. Especially if you wanted a date for a vacation or a nice show or event. Most women that age will make exceptions on age for an exciting opportunity. Honest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 03:17 PM |
| 191 | What actions make a man look like a creep? And what’s the difference between a guy checking out a hot girl vs a girl checking out a hot guy?The standard is simple. If you are attractive it's okay, if you are unattractive to her then it's creepy. It's just a label women use to avoid appearing shallow. So the implication is that your actions are inappropriate. They just don't say outloud that the actions are inappropriate because you aren't attractive. Broadly speaking creepy just means 'Unwanted sexualized attention'. But that's thinking of it as a 'shield' of sorts. As in, 'this man is acting creepy, someone help me.' It's about inv… | /r/seduction | 09/07/24 03:07 PM |
| 0 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendI haven't for decades, I'm just warning guys about women like you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 06:41 PM |
| 49 | Do you guys lick the pussy of every girl you get laid, or you choose some of them?It's very hygiene dependent. But it's clean I'm happy to polish the button. | /r/seduction | 08/07/24 06:25 PM |
| 3 | I think if attractive women had to go through the online app dating experience of an Average looking guy (5-6/10) working a normal middle class job, this would make both a great social experiment & reality show.Okay, but I'm not cleaning up the urinals in the ladies room if that's the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 06:21 PM |
| 1 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendHere's a good skit this group did on friendzone, it captures the toxicity of women friends well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVvVSAn_g2E | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 06:12 PM |
| 0 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendEntitled to what? If you are gonna play these stupid games You mean being kind? And that is that you need to keep up the base level you set or accept that you won't stay friends. No thanks. I like friends that are actual friends. Not someone that expects I do all the work. The bar lowering is a sign that the other doesn't care anymore. It's called matching her energy. Welcome to a view of what you are like as a friend. And you are the only one that acts like a victim. I am just stating the obvio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 06:11 PM |
| 0 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty Friend“But I did all these favors and paid for things, she owes me romantic and sexual reciprocity” Always with the victim card. Guy, "Oh she's not interested, too bad, I guess I'll move on. I wonder if she was serious about being friends and will call me like an actual friend if I'm not buying her stuff" Woman, "What a liar and and asshole, pretending to be my friend. All men are shit" Sorry ladies, you aren't entitled to a friendship where the guy treats you with boyfriend level effort. You just nee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 06:08 PM |
| 1 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendIt means girls are mostly a hobby for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 06:05 PM |
| 1 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendThere was a really good skit video that captured the toxic dynamic of being friendzoned. I felt this was exactly what it's like being friendzoned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVvVSAn_g2E | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 05:22 PM |
| 0 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendYou sound pretty entitled and delusional on this one. Friendzone was something I dealt with maybe 30 years ago when I was a kid. You want to play Schrödinger's Feminist and be a victim when a guy accepts you want to be friends and start treating you like a friend and you get butt hurt that he isn't allowed to do that. Again, for those in the back. You are not entitled to a man's boyfriend energy, he is entitled to share that with whomever he wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 05:21 PM |
| 1 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendIf you are romantically interested in someone don't try to cover it up with a friendship and put in insanes amount of effort to try to win her over. And the corollary is the woman shouldn't dangle intimacy and the idea that she's on the fence regarding a relationship. She agreed to be your friend and you set the standard of this friendship with the effort you aren't willing to put into a friendship. If only it was so clear. The power comes in the ambiguity. Usually they tell you that they aren't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 03:41 PM |
| -1 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendI'll throw you a crazy one: I'm bisexual. It's not that crazy, it was actually obvious with your experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 03:34 PM |
| 1 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendGlad to hear it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 03:33 PM |
| 0 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendSomeone makes you do those things? They dangle the idea that a relationship might be waiting if you do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 03:30 PM |
| 1 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendI think it's only feasible if the woman is unattractive honestly. Otherwise it just causes problems in your relationships. If I run into a guy friend from high school it's like no time has passed at all. Our excitement and energy is renewed and it could have been 30 years since we last spoke. If you run into a female friend you've not spoken with in awhile, you can tell it's different, female friends just require more effort to keep the friendship alive. So when you have an intimate partner it j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 12:50 PM |
| 3 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendLol, just look at your comment history. You literally are arguing with everyone about this. Maybe your experience isn't universal. Your experience sounds more like what a gay man would experience honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 12:46 PM |
| 5 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendBtw, I think the same is true in reverse for situationships. Basically if the female friendzone is having a guy give boyfriend effort with no romantic effort returned by the women, the male friendzone, fwb is a woman giving sex and getting no relationship effort back from the guy. Situationships are common as many women feel that if they give a guy sex, that he will more than likely want a relationship. Most guys want to date them, so they assume the really hot guys will too. There's lots of wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 12:42 PM |
| 2 | You wouldn't have more luck in the dating markets of the pastHere's a good article for you to read relating to the misleading interpretation of declining divorce rates. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3972308/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 12:34 PM |
| 0 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendThen she's a bitch, and you probably were never one of her actual friends unfortunately. That's terrible behavior and manipulation on her part. Exactly, in time you learn that women who just ignore you are being honest and transparent. They are being normal, they just aren't interested. The ones who tease being your friend are the ones looking to exploit your efforts. Usually they are lower tier women who keep shooting their shot with guys out of their league, so they need guy friends to occupy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 12:29 PM |
| 2 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendBeing friend zoned is something that happens when you are young and are not experienced. Girls personalities are largely set by 16, boys brains aren't fully formed until closer to 25. This gives young women nearly a decade head start (there's probably biological reasons why this was advantageous). So you're laying these questions out to a young boy with a partially formed brain? Why doesn't he know not to do these things? The obvious answer is that becoming friends with a girl feels like progres… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 12:22 PM |
| 17 | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendTotally bogus take. Being friendzoned is where the friendship consists of you putting in boyfriend effort to remain friends, not actual friendship effort. When you stop putting in boyfriend effort the friendship either fades, or if she thinks you are pursuing some one else she teases the possibility of more to keep you providing boyfriend level effort. It is this exploitive nature of the friend zone that is problematic. The fact that you like them as more than friends is exploited to receive thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 11:41 AM |
| 6 | You wouldn't have more luck in the dating markets of the pastSo basically you've got no evidence and choose to explain away the data the disproves your point. Sorry that isn't offering actual data to support your view point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 10:53 AM |
| 4 | You wouldn't have more luck in the dating markets of the pastYou can certainly say that as an opinion, but I don't know how you can offer any data to support your opinion. All the data we have whether it be marriage rates, divorce rates, birth rates, length of time between sexual partners are far lower than they were in the past. So without any data to back up your claim, it lands pretty empty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 10:03 AM |
| 1 | Questions about men being allowed to cheat after x amount of time with no sexI take it you were unaware of this fact? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 02:57 AM |
| 1 | Questions about men being allowed to cheat after x amount of time with no sexThe vast majority of student loan debt is accumulated by women who get worthless degrees and can't pay it back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 01:47 AM |
| 3 | Questions about men being allowed to cheat after x amount of time with no sexWe are exceeding men in college enrollment As should be expected, we sponsor more scholarships for women and the entire education system was reconfigured by women to benefit women. It's the intended result. all we needed was for men to “take their foot off our necks”. And how have men done that in the last 50 years? We literally support women at all levels to achieve success, from more scholarships, to more homeless shelters for women despite 75% of homeless being men. Public assistance is overw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 01:39 AM |
| 2 | Questions about men being allowed to cheat after x amount of time with no sexWhy is the assumption that the man makes more money and comes in with the assets Because it's more often the case. However I agree that is changing and in many cases it is not the correct assumption. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 01:22 AM |
| – | Questions about men being allowed to cheat after x amount of time with no sexSure, that could work. He could pay her for that, and she could reimburse him for rent and all the money he spent on her if you want to go that route. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 01:13 AM |
| – | Questions about men being allowed to cheat after x amount of time with no sexAnd he supported her, an able bodied adult to do those things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 12:59 AM |
| – | Questions about men being allowed to cheat after x amount of time with no sexI think the answer is π number of times. /s Seriously I think it's less about a number and more if it's clear that the person has decided unilaterally that you both are done having sex. Most men are willing to wait years (and suffer) hoping things fix themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 12:57 AM |
| – | Questions about men being allowed to cheat after x amount of time with no sexYes, you are choosing to abstain. Would you agree that this is the correct term for choosing not to have sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 12:54 AM |
| – | Questions about men being allowed to cheat after x amount of time with no sexIf you don’t have sex you’re not monogamous? That’s one I haven’t heard before. What’s the time frame on that happening? Yes not having sex is known as abstinence. Abstinence isn't monogamy. It’s interesting we keep coming back to the idea that divorce proceedings should in some way punish women who don’t have sex. I would view it as, we should not punish men for something that isn't their fault. You characterize this as punishing women, I would just characterize it as not holding men responsibl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 10:05 PM |
| – | Questions about men being allowed to cheat after x amount of time with no sexFor men that think if your wife won’t have sex with you after x amount of time you should be “allowed” to cheat on her. I think the trap comes from monogamy. Remember monogamy is two things. We have sex with each other. We don't have sex with others. Many people just think monogamy is rule #2, but if you don't have rule #1 then you aren't practicing monogamy you are practicing abstinence. To be monogamous you have to both be having sex with each other and not having sex with others. So there's r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Ethically sex shouldn’t be considered a fundamental need like food, water and shelter.Never heard of that, but it sounds like a pathetic excuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 12:30 AM |
| 2 | Ethically sex shouldn’t be considered a fundamental need like food, water and shelter.I don't think anyone anywhere is arguing that women need to provide men sex like fresh water to castaway. It only comes up in the context of a monogamous relationship where one party leaves monogamy by no longer participating in a sexual relationship while expecting the other party to remain abstinent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 12:14 AM |
| 6 | Q4M: Are you experiencing older women competing with younger women more in dating nowadays?Only to the extent that there are many more women who are single in their 40s now. So they are out there, but I don't think it's really that much of a competition between them and the 30 year olds. A woman in her 40s is a better match (for a variety of reasons) for a guy in his 50s or 60s. So I just see them as different dating markets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 09:22 PM |
| 5 | Q4M: Are you experiencing older women competing with younger women more in dating nowadays?I think it's unlikely that a 40 year old is going to date a 22 year old unless it's Leonardo DiCaprio. But a 40 year old dating a 30 year old? Common place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 09:04 PM |
| 9 | Q4M: Are you experiencing older women competing with younger women more in dating nowadays?Is it really that much of a competition though? Guys basically date as young as they practically can with the overwhelming dating attention going to women below 40. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 07:40 PM |
| – | When was TRP ever about self-improvement or stoicism ?My impression has been that the self improvement stuff was the core strategy for dealing with the reality that the RP documents. So it was always the core conclusion on how best to deal with it. Black Pill was derived from those who saw the RP prescription as being useless or a waste of time. So basically Black Pill is where you end up if you reject the self improvement approach. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 07:34 PM |
| 3 | Do a lot of guys have this common experience dating a foreign woman?At the end of the day people want things from their partner and in most peoples heads they just wish that them just showing up is a fair trade for those things that they want from the other partner. In reality, you have to give some and you have to accept less than you had hoped for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 07:30 PM |
| 7 | Do a lot of guys have this common experience dating a foreign woman?I was to be responsible for everything financially And what was she doing in return? I assume she was a stay at home partner who maintained the home, cooking, cleaning? I mean if you are looking for a traditional relationship that would be it. Or did she have a job and not want any domestic duties? That would be more like modern women who object to adding anything other than their presence to a relationship. Canadian women have much of a less of a problem bringing money to the table And certainl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 05:54 PM |
| -3 | Have you ever gotten a woman to have sex who had initially laid it as a hard boundary? How did you get her to change her mind?If a woman is having sex with you it's because she wants to. Her saying it's off the table is her current state of mind and that can change in an instant. Usually that type of talk is intended to give her an 'out' and to imply she didn't want to, that it just happened. She just happened to go back to your place, got naked by removing the sexy lingerie she wore for the date, got in bed, and you started having sex, you know like how things often due when they aren't intentional. | /r/seduction | 05/07/24 05:36 PM |
| 1 | What exactly is the "blue pill" solution to solving a deadbedroom?And how much of that was blind luck? I mean most people are doing it like crazy when dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 05:32 PM |
| -1 | What exactly is the "blue pill" solution to solving a deadbedroom?Men are avoiding being divorced raped, being single as a guy is great. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 05:29 PM |
| 2 | What exactly is the "blue pill" solution to solving a deadbedroom?I think you are missing the very big elephant in the room that men typically are royally screwed over by divorce while women are not. If you told most men dealing with a dead bedroom, hey you can walk away, get 50/50 with the kids, you keep everything you paid for, she keeps what she paid for and there's no child support or alimony most men would take it. When you find out, well no, the home you bought before you were married is half hers because you thought adding her name to the title would de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 05:29 PM |
| 19 | asking a girl her true intensions of why she wants to dateis it bad for me to ask straight up what are her intentions of dating I suppose it depends... Whenver I do that, .... then she drops everything and leaves. Then maybe it's not your best strategy. | /r/seduction | 05/07/24 05:43 AM |
| 2 | Girl Changed Her Mind About Relationship OvernightNo, in all honesty she probably lined up a few different guys before leaving her old relationship and you just didn't win out. | /r/seduction | 05/07/24 12:27 AM |
| 0 | Is it possible for men to be attracted to women who are 40 plus?I think you're in luck, all the data we have shows men are very good at loving their wives their entire relationship. It's the reverse that is harder to find. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 01:03 PM |
| 1 | The low bar for men is reflection of women's actual value in dating marketSo how many women inquire about your sex skills when deciding if they are going to sleep with you? If a woman is inquiring about your sexual skills, the answer is, she already wants to have sex with you. Questions like 'How big is it?', 'Do you go down a girl?', 'Are you a good kisser?', are all green light questions and the answers aren't really that important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 12:43 PM |
| 3 | ''If Women's intuition is so good then why do they choose Toxic Abusive attractive guys, Checkmate Blue pilers ''I've come to the conclusion that when women talk about 'women's intuition' it's because game recognizes game. Basically a woman will spot a game she herself is running. So if she thinks a woman is cheating, it's because she herself at one point was cheating. That's why they recognize the signs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 01:15 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesThe term creepy is a weapon women use. It can be a shield or it can be a sword. A woman being harassed by man tells others someone is acting creepy to illicit aid. To activate protection. In that instance it's a shield. Other women use that same power as a sword such as the examples I gave. The point is that it comes down to the woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 11:28 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesAs defined by the woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 11:10 PM |
| 14 | How do you stop yourself from getting friendzonedYou avoid getting friend zoned by moving on when a woman you see romantically tells you she's not romantically interested. | /r/seduction | 03/07/24 10:37 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesBecause you keep coming back with misinterpretations of what I'm saying, seemingly intentionally. Men are responsible for their actions. Women are responsible for their actions. Ones feelings are ones own feelings. If a woman 'feels' something is creepy that is not the man's responsibility. I'll give an example (this happened to me). I was at the park with my kids, my kids are old enough they run to the other side of the park (where no benches are). I'm fine with them exercising some autonomy so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 10:32 PM |
| 1 | The low bar for men is reflection of women's actual value in dating marketAh, so men should solve their issue by just increasing their sexual market value by upping their sex skills Men do those things to get women to desire to have sex with them. Women filter sexual partners first for relationship material (short or long), so if a woman is having sex with you she's already signally she sees you as either long or short term. Women need to up their relationship skills to advance past having sex. This is where women need to up their relationship game (taking on chores a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 10:30 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesLol, you're just arguing to argue, I've made my point and you apparently are unable to engage with it genuinely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 08:42 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesNo, you're missing the nuance. Men are responsible for their behavior. Her response to that behavior is what she controls. If she sees a guy smiling and finds it creepy, the problem is not with him but her reaction. Women are capable and have agency or at least some do. Others want the rest of the world to re-arrange itself to suit them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 08:35 PM |
| 3 | The low bar for men is reflection of women's actual value in dating marketYou seem to have a lot of the dating dynamics backwards. Women aren't the fish, women are the fishermen. Women spot a good fish (a man) and go after that guy, while ignoring other fish. Women do not dictate relationships, women dictate sexual access. Men dictate relationships and most of the fish women want to go after have high relationship standards, higher than most women can meet. Women who struggle in getting relationships struggle because they confuse their sexual market value with their r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 08:00 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesCreepiness is a feeling the woman has. It's a determination she is making based on her experience. Men aren't responsible for her feelings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 07:53 PM |
| 1 | I think it's pathetic that if you dig deeper, most of TRP criticisms about how unjust society is for men boil down to "I can't control my wife anymore"She was having an affair and just wanted to blame me for why she was distant. It's a real thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 03:33 PM |
| 18 | Why do other men support societal delusion?Then, OTHER men essentially tell the guy the problem is him, and that he needs to improve himself in order to attract even a woman who is way beneath his level?? Because himself is something he actually controls. A plan like 'Let's tell women they need to change' isn't a useful or actionable plan. It's like, 'Hey I'm warm, I smell smoke. Hey it's getting hot I see flames. Hey I'm not sure what to do there's smoke and flames everywhere, do you think I'm safe?' It's like no dude, get up and help y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 03:19 PM |
| -1 | I think it's pathetic that if you dig deeper, most of TRP criticisms about how unjust society is for men boil down to "I can't control my wife anymore"I've personally experienced what I've learned to call 'the scavenger hunt'. This is where a seemingly never ending list of tasks comes up needed for her to be happy and feel loved. Once one task is complete, a new one you've never heard of appears. As a blue pilled man you feel like it's your job to work on this things as a form of putting effort into the relationship. Then at some point you realize the entire purpose was to just keep you occupied and prevent you from asking for the things you n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 03:07 PM |
| 5 | The standards of "not fat" and "no kids" are the BARE MINIMUM, not "extremely high". Bluepillers are disingenuously abusing semantics and population statistics to try to shame men out of having any standards at all.Most of hardcore feminists see a patriarchy because they are not conventionally attractive and therefore don't reap the enormous benefits attractive women receive when they are young. Once you realize feminists are usually the female equivalent to an incel, you end up caring a lot less about what they think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 03:00 PM |
| 0 | I think it's pathetic that if you dig deeper, most of TRP criticisms about how unjust society is for men boil down to "I can't control my wife anymore"I've never seen RedPill say anything like that. RedPill is all about understanding reality, accepting it, and learning how to best navigate that reality. A blue pill approach would be to always try to make your wife happy as an ill fated attempt at having a happy content wife. It turns out this fails miserably. RedPill tells you to to do things (like work on yourself) that actually make your wife excited to be with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 02:56 PM |
| 3 | Men who fear that women are settling for them and feel they may be reduced to Beta Bucks... would you be okay, if she offers a hall pass?Part of the reason the wife has no sexual drive is because she's secure. Make her less secure and it will stoke her flames of needing to put in effort again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 01:19 AM |
| 1 | Is it natural for men to be promiscuous or to be married?I think the divorce rate is a reflection of unshared risk between the two parties in a marriage. Basically the higher income earner bears all the risk and a lower income earner is essentially protected, even if they are at fault and the primary reason a divorce is occuring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 01:16 AM |
| 1 | Men, would you date an obese woman if you loved her personality?It's almost certainly a no. Even though you stated she has a great personality, to allow yourself to become obese reflects on areas of self control, self respect and discipline as well as mental health. It's sort of like all successful people are ambitious. All obese people have issues to work through and I'd pass and move on to someone who didn't have those issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 12:16 AM |
| 16 | Noticing the delusion and cognitive dissonance some women have regarding their optionsExactly, she's totally planning on using her options. | /r/seduction | 01/07/24 05:48 PM |
| 3 | A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward?No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 12:31 PM |
| 1 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.So if they take on volunteer work no, still have the chores. But if they start selling clothes online then spend their days shopping it's okay because that's there job now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 12:28 PM |
| 2 | A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward?The man n woman are complete strangers and hes taking her out on a date, but he expects sex, As you said, your made up scenario. I think it's an unlikely one. Some guy probably called you out for wasting his time and now your trying to contrive a question to get the answer you want on reddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 05:22 AM |
| 1 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.Or find a woman who enjoys contributing in non financial ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.Inheritance isn't a marital asset. I just think partners should pull their own weight, I don't understand why you think one partner can contribute so little, unless of course you plan on being that partner and want to convince some highly successful person to subsidize you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 02:47 AM |
| 1 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.You're entitled to your own opinion. I just wouldn't deal with someone who views others contributions so little and acts like they are bringing the world to the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 01:44 AM |
| 1 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.Honestly you sound lazy and entitled and then are trying to project that on the man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 01:33 AM |
| 1 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.Who would choose a retail job because their husband “makes enough,” still work 40 hours, just to have the chores be split equally? Someone who thinks that just working the same hours equals an equal contribution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.You just aren't the type. There are some women who feel lucky to have the opportunity to not have to worry work but instead focus their energy on their kids. You characterize this as some sort of slavery. Then don't be a SAHM. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 01:22 AM |
| 2 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.I guess when he takes on financial responsibility for a healthy, able bodied person he just sort of expects she will eagerly want to reward the family with her efforts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 12:35 AM |
| 2 | A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward?Women bringing friends is pretty common, guys deal with it all the time. Having a woman pay for your dinner is pretty common too. You can find plenty of videos of women openly admitting that they act interested to get free meals and to stoke attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 12:33 AM |
| 1 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.And as I understand you. If that person takes any sort of job, suddenly the chores must be split. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 12:31 AM |
| 3 | A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward?That's the whole point, refusing to acknowledge a valid male perspective while pushing a victimized female perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 12:30 AM |
| 1 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.The majority of the so called wage gap is due to women picking jobs that they find emotionally fulfilling vs highest paying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 12:29 AM |
| 4 | A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward?A woman doesn't need to ever jump in to bed, sex should always be consensual. But if you aren't romantically interested in a guy, you should shut down going on dates with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 12:28 AM |
| 1 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.That's fine if they are not expected to contribute financially beyond 50/50. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 12:27 AM |
| 3 | A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward?I have never seen or heard any of my friends talking about being owed sex. It think that when a woman has taken full advantage of a man's courtesy, even well past when she's realized she's not interested she needs a way to turn herself into the victim in the situation and pretending he expected sex is one way of doing that. The fact ur response is full of all these sex assumptions only tells me this is why some men take women out, just hoping to gain access to sex Sex is one of the defining feat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 12:26 AM |
| 2 | A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward?I've had both happen (not the same date). But I've literally been on hundreds of dates, so I've had just about everything happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 12:23 AM |
| 6 | A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward?Well your question was how would you know, I gave one such specific example where a guy can feel like 'Yeah I was taken advantage on that one'. Then women turn around and admonish him for 'expecting sex' which sort of seems to miss the plot entirely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 07:28 PM |
| 7 | A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward?Maybe she could insist on paying for herself if she isn't interested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 07:26 PM |
| 7 | A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward?I think when you go out and the woman is ordering the most expensive things, multiple glasses of wine, maybe asks one of her friends to join for drinks then tells you she sees you more as a friend you sort of read the tea leaves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 07:25 PM |
| -2 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.It certainly is if one person isn't getting paid at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 06:58 PM |
| -3 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.I wish you well with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 06:57 PM |
| 0 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.I don't think he should be entitled to half if you separate, that's for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 06:52 PM |
| 8 | A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward?Do these women buy you dinner? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 06:51 PM |
| 4 | A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward?He expects not to be evaluated purely on how nice a meal he can provide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 06:51 PM |
| 19 | A man buys a woman a drink, or takes her out to dinner. Why do some feel they are entitled to receive sex afterward?I think if a man feels used it's because he finds out she went over to some other guys place after having dinner or has a fwb. That's when he knows she had basically no interest in sex with him and just saw him as a free meal. Contrary to your premise I don't think a guy expects sex, he expects a fair chance at seeing if you are compatible. If you've got side dick lined up for after the date then clearly he wasn't given a fair chance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.I mean only if you believe both partners should contribute equally. It's also fine if you don't mind one partner subsidizing the other. Maybe there's a big discrepancy in looks? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 06:28 PM |
| -5 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.I'd be curious if you will find that satisfactory long term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 05:41 PM |
| -1 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.Even if it's full time, if it makes significantly less, the point still stands. They could be home contributing equally on the home front, but you're saying by taking a non career job (say retail) that suddenly chores must be split 50/50. That makes no sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 05:40 PM |
| -10 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.It's real easy to figure out. Who gets paid more. Basically both partners have an obligation to contribute to the relationship and if one brings in 3x the money, the other has to make it up in other ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 03:12 PM |
| 2 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.I think many women see the relationship goals as an extension of their goals. Meaning they enter into the relationship as a means to further their goals. This means that if you separate effort into personal goals that each person has as well as the shared goals of the relationship, in my experience women think that their efforts are always for the relationship, where as anything the man does that is inherently selfish if it isn't towards her goals (which she miscasts as the relationship goals). … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 03:11 PM |
| -6 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.So if one person brings in 10x the money and the other gets a part time job she avoids doing half the chores? How convenient /s If it was me, I'd make you pull your weight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 03:08 PM |
| 3 | TRP fundamentally misunderstands and misrepresents StoicismI'm beginning to realize a whole lot of people don't have any idea what the RedPill says. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 11:41 PM |
| 2 | Current day red pillers lie to men about how women are and what men should do to attract women, because red pill not longer wants to help men be successful at dating, but to make men bitter, miserable, angry doomers who stay single and alone and eventually even self-delete.The last three are completely made up and aren't RP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 02:34 PM |
| 2 | Current day red pillers lie to men about how women are and what men should do to attract women, because red pill not longer wants to help men be successful at dating, but to make men bitter, miserable, angry doomers who stay single and alone and eventually even self-delete.It's Friday and another person showing the totally don't understand RedPill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 04:14 AM |
| 2 | Do you think someone could have woman having no job no house no car (being poor and not independent)I mean a young hot guy could probably pull this off. Your average dude, middle aged? It's a no. | /r/seduction | 28/06/24 11:56 AM |
| 0 | What do you do when the idea of a tinder date gets shot downIf it's not a yes, it's a no. | /r/seduction | 28/06/24 04:40 AM |
| 2 | The reason why women say what they don’t wantA woman ending a relationship will say anything she can think of to blame you for the break up. I wouldn't waste two minutes thinking about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 04:24 AM |
| 6 | The bar is on the ground for men is an incredibly toxic statementAnd don't get me wrong, he does okay. Certainly better than myself at his age (or maybe any age). But he still gets ignored by woman close to his level a fair amount. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 10:43 PM |
| 13 | The bar is on the ground for men is an incredibly toxic statementThere just aren't a lot of quality woman is the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 10:41 PM |
| 38 | The bar is on the ground for men is an incredibly toxic statementI have a cousin. He's 19, 6'4", D1 College swimmer's body, very social and likable. He does well with the ladies but even he doesn't feel like its easy. Basically a mid-overweight woman has an easier time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 09:35 PM |
| 1 | The reason why women say what they don’t wantSo would you say she's insecure? I mean nothing wrong with complimenting someone when they've put particular effort into looking nice, but is this something she just wants to hear all the time? Do you never say it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 03:17 PM |
| 8 | What is creepy?This is the key, creepy is defined by the observer based on their feelings. Not necessarily based on the specific actors actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 03:06 PM |
| 3 | Why is popularity and social standing in a partner so much more important to women?Women rely heavily on other women to filter men. If some women like a man, it's much better than if no women like a man. She doesn't even need to know the women. This magnifies the effect since all women tend to more or less like the same men, if a woman can land that guy, it affects her social status. It's also probably the case that a well liked person has better developed social skills and it will translate directly into more opportunities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 02:55 PM |
| 1 | The reason why women say what they don’t wantWhat is your relation to her? Friend, potential boyfriend? Don't take the bait and spend an enormous time giving her compliments. When she's put forth a particular effort sure, but feeding compliments like that sounds like a sure trip to the friend zone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 11:59 AM |
| 2 | The reason why women say what they don’t wantI would guess she wants a guy to puff up her ego, but hard to say. Most beautiful women I know almost ignore compliments about their looks they get them so often. Is this woman actually beautiful? Like a 7 or above? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 03:57 AM |
| 2 | The reason why women say what they don’t wantRed Pill, read Rollo's book 'The Rational Male' as a starting point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 12:54 AM |
| 2 | The reason why women say what they don’t wantShe wants you to get emotionally vulnerable? She's testing if you are stable enough and a secure bet. The weaker you look the less she will think you're a good option. Basically women want to know... assuming the answer is your emotions are rock solid and you're capable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 11:07 PM |
| 2 | That stat about women initiating divorce 70% of the time is misleadingThe RP view is that family law is heavily in favor of women, so your stats actually confirm/reinforce the RP view on marriage and women leaving marriages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 04:06 PM |
| 1 | The reason why women say what they don’t wantIt's because they're lack of logic. Lol, oh man, this will be a popular take. Honestly I was confused by women for some time, this is why Red Pill is so important. It really simplifies and clarifies things. Women are way more logical than we men give them credit for, they are just playing a very different game than we have been taught to believe that they are. Women like bad boys because they are fun. Bad boys give women a free pass to do the things they aren't supposed to like but secretly do a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Men here only think they have low standards because they are blind to most things Women do as defaultI think both men and women, to a degree want to be loved for themselves. Both genders want to be 'enough' for a partner. So the moment someone starts saying 'I did all of X and you didn't even do Y' it shatters that illusion that we were enough and says 'I'm doing this to get this'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Men here only think they have low standards because they are blind to most things Women do as defaultIt's like ordering steak from a waiter and the waiter brings fish and you tell them, 'I didn't ask for fish' and the waiter starts to cry and says 'You didn't even try the fish'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 02:42 AM |
| 8 | Question for Women: Is it true that you lose respect for men who perform oral sex on you?Both viewpoints are nonsense. People who are good in bed enjoy performing oral sex. I've never heard any RP content that says performing oral on a woman is wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 02:41 AM |
| 1 | Men here only think they have low standards because they are blind to most things Women do as defaultMore like she does a bunch of things she wants to do and tells herself she's doing it for her man, who doesn't notice because they weren't things he asked for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 07:52 AM |
| 0 | Men here only think they have low standards because they are blind to most things Women do as defaultWell yeah, men start off relationships courting women, putting in tons of effort. Eventually that effort level begins to match the woman's effort until they are equal. So it's no wonder the woman pines for the time when she was getting so much effort for free. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 12:39 AM |
| 1 | Older women over 30 and revenge fantasyGlad to hear you are doing well and sorry for your peers decline. I'm just going by my anecdotal evidence and life experience. I'm the same age as you and I have several friends who's wives no longer desire sexual energy in any form, one is nearly bed ridden (Imagine my 700 lb life sort of lifestyle), one has long covid. I can think of others where the mental decline in terms of depression has them acting like people from another planet compared to when they were young. Most men I know are the s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 02:17 PM |
| 3 | Men here only think they have low standards because they are blind to most things Women do as defaultMen assume their wives will always stay the same but they don't. Women expect their husbands will change but they stay the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 02:14 PM |
| 2 | Older women over 30 and revenge fantasyI don't see it as a revenge fantasy at all. I see it as telling men to stop trying to force themselves to comply with the narrative that they should accept these women. It's more of a 'don't date this woman because she's on the verge of becoming bitter and will have health issues'. It's not wishing it on her, it's more acknowledging that women face a steeper decline then men as they age. Mental health issues, depression issues, shutting down of sexual desire. Women have a sparkling apex in their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 03:41 AM |
| 22 | Men here only think they have low standards because they are blind to most things Women do as defaultThe average woman treats the average man like he's invisible. When men talk about low standards they mean things like 'she talks to me with an ounce of enthusiasm, suggesting she's happy being here'. Most men date fun, nice women, then marry them only to find out they are bottomless pits of sadness and depression. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 03:06 AM |
| -2 | A number of women are creating co-housing situations and supportive communities.The women in these communities live pretty happily. Why aren’t red pill men doing the same?No they don't want to live in a community of cat women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 01:37 AM |
| 5 | Question for women - why do women shame men for having standards? What is the actual reason for this?6 Figures, 6 pack, 6 inches. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 01:33 AM |
| 8 | Question for women - why do women shame men for having standards? What is the actual reason for this?We can definitely admit that, but I think the point of the question is that most women present their standards by openly insulting most men. So why is there a restriction on how men can share their standards and not women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 01:15 AM |
| 1 | Women with promiscuous pasts who are sexually reserved/borderline asexual with their LTRsI think she will if she's super attracted to him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 11:51 PM |
| 0 | Women with promiscuous pasts who are sexually reserved/borderline asexual with their LTRslol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 07:34 PM |
| 2 | Women with promiscuous pasts who are sexually reserved/borderline asexual with their LTRsNo I'm been the side guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Women's high standards are mostly talkIf you've met a women, then you know 100% what they want changes during the month. Sometimes women who barely can stand you practically jump your bones 3 days out of the month. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 06:57 PM |
| 2 | Women's high standards are mostly talkSex is easy to get for women because men verify sexual access first. Relationships are what is hard. Getting relationship commitment from a man is not easy for most women because they use the sexual access as a means to date high quality men than they are. So the man accepts the sexual access, then does his relationship vetting, then realizes he's not interested. And the woman never reflects that she's just shooting her shot way too high. Generally speaking women look to date up, which is anothe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 03:55 PM |
| 3 | Women's high standards are mostly talkThis is where the dual mating strategy comes in to sharpen your picture. Yes they will get with guys below their standards, but they will remain on the look out for those guys that do meet their standards. Once they secure the beta bux side of things they can readily continue looking for alpha fux candidates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 03:51 PM |
| 3 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Is it clearly legal? I'm hearing all kinds of rumours of such events being shut down. Having an event shut down is not the same as being imprisoned. In private chat conversations people are telling me about chats being shut down. Again not the same as being taken to court, charged with a crime, convicted and then imprisoned. Agree with you there, so we need to start joining private spaces where we will be permitted to speak freely. Quite to the contrary, I think in a country that values free spe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:38 PM |
| 1 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?I would say misandry is pretty openly tolerated and is a source of amusement for women. It appears all the time. Do you see the women on the view 'Most men are useless'. I agree it's not productive to gender bash, but pretending that women openly mocking men is some how rare is disingenuous. Spend two minutes reading any post on r/Feminism and watch how they turn literally every interaction with men into a toxic trauma filled rant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:34 PM |
| 1 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?Do you realize that most women's spaces are 'let's shit on men'? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:23 PM |
| 3 | Is it legal for men to meet with each other and discuss their feelings?It's clearly legal. The policing comes in the form of being demonetized on platforms like youtube and having comments and the ability to comment banned from public spaces. I mean half the forums on reddit if you comment that women have a dual mating strategy where they seek sexual attention from good looking men and resources from average looking men you get banned from commenting immediately. So you are not being arrested, you simply aren't welcome to be part of the public discourse. Basically … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 01:10 PM |
| 5 | Women with promiscuous pasts who are sexually reserved/borderline asexual with their LTRsThey hate men that are liars. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 12:52 PM |
| 0 | Women with promiscuous pasts who are sexually reserved/borderline asexual with their LTRsThis reminds me of the joke 'If a tree falls in the forest and a nearby man says something, but no woman is nearby to hear him, is he still wrong?' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 12:51 PM |
| 9 | Women with promiscuous pasts who are sexually reserved/borderline asexual with their LTRsAnd she can do this because she has a side guy for the sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 12:49 PM |
| 4 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.My partner is 11 years younger than me. I was 38 and she was 27 when we met. I look young for my age, she's aging normally, most people assume we are just a few years apart in age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 12:09 PM |
| -1 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.Those same women have bad experiences with everyone they date and they arrive in their 30s feeling like no good men exist, never once turning the mirror on themselves to realize they are the common factor in all of their experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 12:08 PM |
| 1 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.And that's the best age for a woman to date anyway, so why wouldn't he. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 12:06 PM |
| 1 | Getting hobbies is useless advice for dating.But those aren't the hobbies that got me laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 09:28 PM |
| 8 | Getting hobbies is useless advice for dating.The hobbies are supposed to be hobbies the opposite sex likes. Btw, I raced ICC and stock moto on a TrackMagic chassis. Now I race a Spec E46 I built during COVID. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 06:10 PM |
| 3 | Feminists and older women actually have a point about age-gap relationships, but their explanation is somewhat inaccurate and self servingYou gotta learn somewhere, when you learn to drive stick do you start out on a brand new 500 hp Porsche or do you learn on and old worn out civic with 300,000 miles? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 02:05 PM |
| 5 | Feminists and older women actually have a point about age-gap relationships, but their explanation is somewhat inaccurate and self servingBecause the older women aren't trying to help the younger woman, the older women are trying to shame the man so that other men don't follow suite. The younger man getting with an older woman is just going to finishing school. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 01:59 PM |
| 3 | Women will defend women no matter whatNow you're arguing just to argue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 04:32 AM |
| – | women who complain about dating only have themselves to blameMany women are the female versions of incels and don't realize it because their situation still allows them to have sex. But they are just as dysfunctional as relationship material and usually end up with lots of cats or as single mothers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 01:18 AM |
| 3 | Women will defend women no matter whatIt's standard damaged goods behavior that drives men to seek out younger, non damaged women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 10:54 PM |
| 8 | Women will defend women no matter whatThere was no mistake, a bunch of guys get the Big Mac for $0.99 whenever they want it. For you it's always $4.99. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 10:50 PM |
| 6 | Women will defend women no matter whatDo you see a difference between 4 dates and 10 months and a discrepancy between having sex multiple times vs no sex during that 10 months? Obviously she doesn't see OP (of that post) the same way. Pretending that he's getting just as good of an effort from her is ridiculous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 07:23 PM |
| 2 | Women will defend women no matter whatDid you read the linked post? The girlfriend claiming she never does casual hook ups, making OP (of that post) wait 10 months and counting while giving it up multiple times to a guy she dated in a month'? That's a classic response to riding the carousel and hitting the wall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 07:11 PM |
| 12 | Women will defend women no matter whatThat seems like a pretty reasonable position. If you went to McDonalds and everyone was paying $0.99 for a Big Mac and then when you reached the front of the line they said it would be $4.99 for a Big Mac, would you say well maybe they charged their mind and there's nothing wrong with that? Or would you move on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 07:07 PM |
| 3 | Women will defend women no matter whatWhat's wrong with it is the guy having to deal with all her trauma. He should move on and find a woman who has less trauma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 07:04 PM |
| 17 | Women will defend women no matter whatThat thread you linked is horrible. I hope that poor man finds a suitable girlfriend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 07:03 PM |
| 5 | Most Gen Z men have trouble enforcing clear boundaries in a relationshipWe all grew up in a Blue Pilled world where the feminist narrative is that no woman ever has done anything wrong and everything is an example of toxic masculinity. Even if there's a begrudging acknowledgement that it is possible a woman could, in theory, do something wrong, it's seen as so rare and not realistic that you are a misogynist for denying that 99.9% of the time a man is 100% at fault. So with that backdrop most men walk on egg shells not wanting to ever be that toxic guy that accident… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:34 PM |
| 3 | When will we have female-only cities?In fact, force them to build the cities for almost zero pay, then fire them all. Well obviously. And have the men do the repairs late at night, because this is a woman run city and the women don't want to see any men fixing things. They just want them magically fixed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 05:28 PM |
| 1 | Men should want to have lesbian besties like women have gay bestiesMost lesbians I know are pretty comfortable not spending time with men. I have a lesbian "friend" I know from a shared hobby and although we are always friendly and happy when we see each other, there's a clear boundary and I think she'd get weirded out if I started calling her or trying to hang out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:30 PM |
| 1 | If you don’t agree with no fault divorce, how much are you willing to change?Well we aren't legislators we are debating hypothetical laws. So in that sense we can imagine whatever we want. A stay at home spouse complaining the working spouse doesn't do enough at home is common, but shouldn't be grounds to receive lavish financial reward for walking away. It should be no fault. The stay at home spouse could get a job if they wanted to and leave chores to be split if the pay was more or less the same or still doing more at home work if they earn substantially less to earn … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 03:24 PM |
| 3 | If you don’t agree with no fault divorce, how much are you willing to change?So with respect to child support, I think the default should be 50/50 with no financial support. Financial support would apply if one parent couldn't fulfill their responsibility. So in your case, if a parent couldn't take care of the kids and the husband present in court that this was the case it would be corrected. But just feeling like you do more. Or having standards for what you feel like doing that your partner doesn't participate in shouldn't be enough to win in court. If you want to walk… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:43 PM |
| -1 | If you don’t agree with no fault divorce, how much are you willing to change?Do you think that is fair? I think if you are actually doing more work it would fall under a at-fault divorce reason. If you just feel you do more around the house, then no, I don't think just feeling like you do more should entitle you to walk away with cash prizes, the kid and a house. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:39 PM |
| 9 | When will we have female-only cities?I think it's a great idea, how do we get men to pay for it so the women can be strong and independent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 02:35 PM |
| 4 | If you don’t agree with no fault divorce, how much are you willing to change?I think no fault divorce is fine, but it should come with no alimony and the default should be the divorcer leaves the marital home and doesn't get child custody. They are the ones walking away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 01:56 PM |
| 1 | A good way to incentivize more women to have children. Would be guaranteeing that women could continue to chase their dreams as well.A good way to incentivize more women to have children. Women shouldn't be incentivized to do anything, let them pick what they want to do. guaranteeing that women could continue to chase their dreams as well. Why should society support or compensate women like that? Just let them live with the consequences of their choices the way men do. I'd say encourage women to do whatever they want, but stop all handouts that reinforce bad choices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Women uphold the “patriarchy” when it suits themYou didn’t say that you said “the patriarchy is a construct of feminism” that’s just flat out wrong. That's because the patriarchy is a theory that comes from feminism. It just doesn't explain reality. Do you know who actually pays the most taxes? The rich. The top 10% of earners contribute to 75% of taxes paid. No matter how you slice it, the tax code transfers wealth by and large from men to women and i think it's a fair question to ask is this a moral and reasonable approach to take. For exam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 06:26 AM |
| 3 | The problem with modern marriage is that there are 0 repercussions for cheatingI don't think it's very often. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 12:39 AM |
| 2 | Women uphold the “patriarchy” when it suits themBecause you were born yesterday apparently you think your opinion on feminism should be based on just that? No, simply that we should evaluate feminism based on it's role today based on the realities of today. Bringing up things such as women not being able to vote or women not being able to open bank accounts are historically interesting and wrongs that justifiable were corrected but don't explain or justify imbalances of today. \safety nets** Yes all this so that we don’t need to be dependent … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Who Opposes No-Fault Divorce?Read up on survivorship bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 09:00 PM |
| 2 | Women uphold the “patriarchy” when it suits themFeminism predates our current modern society you know that right? Um, yes. The vast majority of the human experience predates our existence. But I can't really speak to that because I wasn't born yet. I only have experience with my lifetime. Does that surprise you? At the time of its inception women, very much were prevented from succeeding. For the vast majority of human existence life prevented most everyone from succeeding. Disease, poverty, warring factions. Outside of a powerful clan leader… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 05:38 PM |
| – | Who Opposes No-Fault Divorce?Every man I know who has gotten divorced did exactly what you said, but did so because their lawyer told them there was zero chance they'd get custody. It's crazy, because given the poor outcomes of single mothers, leaving children with a mother is the worst thing we can do statistically speaking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 03:24 PM |
| 5 | Women uphold the “patriarchy” when it suits themThink of it like cis-gender. There was never a need to refer to someone as cis-gender prior to trans activism. The term was only invented to define what had previously just been normal. patriarchy is a similar term defined in feminism to explain their fundamental premise that women are some how prevented from succeeding. To the vast majority of people we don't think of ourselves as cisgender because it's just not a sandbox we even play in. Statements like 'cisgendered people tend to...' don't ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 03:22 PM |
| 6 | The problem with modern marriage is that there are 0 repercussions for cheatingI think by frequently you mean 'almost never' and if so usually due to a technical mistake. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 01:41 PM |
| – | Who Opposes No-Fault Divorce?The problem with no fault divorce is that it comes with a 50/50 split, which benefits the lower income earner. I think there should be no fault divorce but no fault should conclude with no alimony. If you want alimony you should have to seek an at-fault divorce. Also child support should default to zero with 50/50 custody. Child support should only apply if one parent cannot fulfill their 50/50 duty. Our current system rewards (usually) women who walk away from marriage for little to no reason a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 01:25 PM |
| 27 | Women uphold the “patriarchy” when it suits themis your understanding of it always as a conscious conspiracy of men building a world to oppress women? I just go by how it's defined in literature. Patriarchy is a social system that gives men more power and privilege than women in various areas of society, such as politics, economics, and culture. It can also be defined as a system of social, political, and economic structures and practices that oppress and exploit women. I honestly don't know how to make a steel man argument when in the west w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 06:00 AM |
| 26 | Women uphold the “patriarchy” when it suits themThe patriarchy is a construct of feminism. Basically start with a premise that the outcomes women have obtained have been limited not by their abilities but by an all pervasive conspiracy designed to only oppress women while benefitting men and the name feminists choose for this oppressor is the patriarchy. Unless you are studying feminisms there isn't much real world use for the patriarchy at it is theoretical and doesn't align with what we actually see in the real world. I mean ask any man wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 04:57 AM |
| 22 | If you bring nothing worth sleeping with, you should not be surprised when you don't get laid. This is not woman's faultI think this is accurate, but also turn that logic around. The majority of women today aren't suitable for relationships and won't receive them. They will drift from f boi to f boi with out understanding why no one wants to be in a long term relationship with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 04:49 AM |
| – | The lesbian divorce rate confirms that women ruin most marriagesThat makes two of us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 10:31 PM |
| – | The lesbian divorce rate confirms that women ruin most marriagesThat would make them terrible lesbians. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 09:54 PM |
| – | The lesbian divorce rate confirms that women ruin most marriagesExactly, given enough time I'm sure a woman can point out how this is a man's fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 09:53 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Mandatory paternity tests are a bad ideaI think simply giving a man a route to recover his investment is what is needed. The law already has rules around 'theft by deception' and I'd consider paternity fraud in a similar light. The issue is that courts have typically decided in 'the best interest of the child' which argues that a mother having to pay back a man she deceived would result in less resources for the kid. This is what allows women to get away with this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Men and Women can never be friends, that is not what all men think. It's a mentality of a very specific kind of guy. Men who are capable of having strong, platonic friendships with women do exist and shouldn't be thrown under the bus with those who are not able to be friends with opposite gender. ItI think it's possible to be friends with a woman when she's not in anyway attractive, but she would need a good personality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 05:58 PM |
| -2 | The future is female.And where did you see that? Was it when I said 'during good times we should strive to treat everyone equally and give everyone fair opportunity.' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 06:05 AM |
| 0 | The future is female.Feminism exists because men choose to let it exist. Progress in feminism is due to men letting it progress. Just look what happened in Afghanistan after the US left when men who didn't want feminism took over. We live in one of the longest periods of extended peace for the majority of the planet. If that changes feminism will take a back seat. Otherwise, during good times we should strive to treat everyone equally and give everyone fair opportunity. At the moment we give more scholarships for wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 03:44 AM |
| 15 | CMV: Mandatory paternity tests are a bad ideaFrance tried it and their social safety net almost went broke because of all the trifling women left alone when the men found out they were being taken for a ride. Now in France it's illegal to get one unless the court requests it. 2) Isn't a cogent argument. You're assuming the biological father wouldn't be a good father if he knew he had a child and that some man at random, chosen by the woman would be a better father. None of that is certain. 3) DV is already a crime. It's better to detect pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 01:31 AM |
| 10 | Theory: Red pill want to be upsetIt just sounds like you haven't gotten past the initial bitter taste of the red pill. Eventually you just accept it and realize you can't control it, you can only navigate it the best you can. You don't get upset about it or feel victimized. You feel empowered because you understand the rules of the game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 05:38 AM |
| 1 | How are men supposed to deal with successive rejections?100% Women's actions are intentionally ambiguous, this is the source of their power. A woman can reshape the narrative to victimize herself and put you in the wrong at any time. This is why men are always wrong. This is why it's important to keep things light and don't get too invested. A woman could change her mind for a variety of reasons unrelated to you. Her boyfriend could appear, a more attractive man could appear, her friends could appear. She could realize she's late to go somewhere. May… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 12:06 PM |
| 10 | How are men supposed to deal with successive rejections?It's even more meta than that, she could very well be flirting but then she gets an ick, in which case she was never flirting and was just being nice and you are oh so weird for confusing the two. It's like how a squid leaves a poof of ink and disappears. Women reframe the narrative casting the man as the bad guy and exit stage left leaving the guy wondering wtf just happened. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 11:02 PM |
| 11 | How are men supposed to deal with successive rejections?Well attraction is a two way street. Just because you find someone attractive does not mean they find you attractive, which is how it becomes a bit like a dance. No one wanting to put themselves out there to be spurned. You have to learn to read the cues otherwise you will waste a lot of time and creep out a lot of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 05:11 PM |
| 8 | How are men supposed to deal with successive rejections?I think just the fact that she's made herself available to talk to you is a big sign. So from there I'd recommend keeping it light. The way humans react to new people is your brain tries to figure out what this new person is all about. People try to peg them to someone similar to someone they've met before so they can attribute qualities and to feel comfortable with you. All humans do this. So realistically you are interested in her because you like the idea of her. If she's talking to you then … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 05:06 PM |
| 3 | why do women still want to get married?It's just a shaming tactic intended to get you to act outside of your interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 01:56 PM |
| 3 | why do women still want to get married?That's exactly how it works. Have babies, more people like you. Don't have babies, your combination of genes are a dead end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 01:55 PM |
| 7 | why do women still want to get married?And I wish you well on your path. My opinion is just that, not meant to denigrate another's opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 01:25 PM |
| 7 | why do women still want to get married?Exactly, I think in your situation your viewpoint is logical and appropriate. You want a partner who wants to be with you because of you, not one looking to leverage laws to extract resources from you if they decide they aren't happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 01:22 PM |
| 1 | why do women still want to get married?That's fine, they have a right to do whatever they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 01:20 PM |
| 4 | why do women still want to get married?Well I'm glad you found a like minded individual. If he only wanted to marry me as a vessel for children then I would view him very, very differently. Honestly you didn't have to make a petty comment like this. I didn't say anything remotely close to a woman is only a vessel for children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 01:19 PM |
| 3 | why do women still want to get married?True, but since those people don't reproduce, we don't have many of those people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 01:14 PM |
| 2 | why do women still want to get married?As a man I see no reason to marry without the children. Marriage is far too much of a commitment on a man's part to not get children in return. So yes, what you say is true, but I think the risk of divorce is almost entirely carried by the higher income earner and for me personally that risk is to great to bear to just hang out with someone. If that were the case, just date and enjoy our time together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 01:12 PM |
| 6 | why do women still want to get married?Because that's literally the purpose of life, to win by passing your genes on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 01:10 PM |
| 0 | why do women still want to get married?And she won't necessarily stop dating chad when chances arise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 01:05 PM |
| 22 | why do women still want to get married?Exactly, and if they want to have children the most successful way to do that is to have an involved and committed partner. Not to mention marriage laws mitigate some of those pregnancy risks if there's a divorce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 01:04 PM |
| 22 | How are men supposed to deal with successive rejections?The best approach is to reflect on why you aren't succeeding. The obvious answer is that you aren't reading the room and are mistaking apathy as interest (or not even looking to confirm interest). When I was young I'd approach attractive women and ask them out all the time. It never worked, I was 0 for lifetime. I didn't lack confidence but I definitely lacked results. Eventually I learned to pick up on women's cues and when they were showing interest in me. Once you start to see this it becomes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 12:44 PM |
| 3 | RP theories lack nuance and draw extreme conclusions.I'm convinced I have to have sex with my partner at least twice a week to keep her from becoming angry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 06:14 AM |
| 4 | RP theories lack nuance and draw extreme conclusions.My guess is she just prefers the shade of purple over a shade of blue, I mean it's not like she understands any of the pills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 02:27 AM |
| 4 | RP theories lack nuance and draw extreme conclusions.No the wall is real. Part of the reason why it's so noticeable in women is that women use tricks like makeup to fake their looks. When a woman hits the wall and realizes she can no longer attract the type of guys she's into (she still usually can attract lots of guys) she often stops spending so much time on make up and fashion and staying in shape, goes for a simpler short hair-hair cut so it seems like she went from hot to not in just a couple of months. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 02:26 AM |
| 20 | The whole “men do it too” thing is old. You will never see a mediocre man turn down a hot chick because she “texted too fast” or too slow or made one comment he didn’t likeAgreed, usually women use excuses like this when they are done extracting attention or the guy is pushing for reciprocation that she isn't going to give. So they just come up with something to blame him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 11:49 PM |
| 0 | Men put WAY too much stock on trying to get women.It's almost like you haven't seen a young attractive woman before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 08:08 PM |
| 0 | Self-improvement is a scamIf you are able to look in the mirror and truly evaluate yourself. The physical, your job, your hygiene and grooming, your social skills, your comfort in promoting others around you to have the spotlight. If you can improve in all those areas (and why wouldn't you want to) it will more than likely help with women. If you told me a guy was short and not classically handsome, but then you also told me, this guy started his own company, is funny, charismatic, not threatened around other successful … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Self-improvement is a scamWomen aren't always an improvement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 07:59 PM |
| 16 | Self-improvement is a scamSelf improvement is a way of life. Realizing as a man you can always improve and strive for more. Will it get you a more attractive girlfriend? Maybe, maybe not, depends on where you started, but let's say it doesn't. Let's say you can't find a woman you find attractive that is into you. You'll still have a much more kick ass life because of all that work. More than likely it will get you better options for a girlfriend as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 04:05 PM |
| – | Are Situationships and Friend Zone the same thing but gender swapped?Yeah they stem from the same issue. One party wanting more from the other and the more wanted party only willing to offer a one sided relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 03:44 PM |
| 1 | How wise and intelligent would a woman be if she planned and wanted to marry a rich man and had children with him and divorce him to get alimony, assets and a good child support?I tangentially met this couple (friend of a friend). The woman was truly stunning. Visualize a prime Scarlett Johansen and you won't be too far off. He was a very nice guy, brain surgeon with a practice generating 7 figures. Physically he was probably 5'8", a little overweight, not terribly, but not a fit guy, some hair loss (late 30s). But personality was a 10, charming, funny, very likable guy, gracious and willing to share the spot light to be very inclusive of everyone in the room. Just not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 04:07 AM |
| – | Why do men insist women are too picky?I think this is geared towards the post wall ex-baddy who has a three page list of requirements including loaded terms like 'Ambitious' - Code for successful, 'Great sense of humor'- Code for handsome enough I just get giddy and laugh at everything he says. etc. This woman can never find a woman good enough to meet her standards, because she herself doesn't meet her own standards. For most women it is mostly that they seem to pick poorly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Red pillers see women as dishonest / out to get them / subhuman / only good for sex, because due to RPers own behavior / attitudes, they only attract bottom-tier, psychologically damaged women, which then reinforces their attitudes and causes them to attract even more of the same in an endless loop.When your brought up in the west your taught a really idealistic view of women, one where even if somethings seem crazy, that really women think differently and men should accept that they don't know everything and trust in women. Trust their intuition, etc. I think what RP exposes is that usually if it sounds crazy or illogical, its probably lying to explain away some solipsistic end result. At best it stems from women's awful communication skills that rely on telepathy. I think for a lot of me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Red pillers see women as dishonest / out to get them / subhuman / only good for sex, because due to RPers own behavior / attitudes, they only attract bottom-tier, psychologically damaged women, which then reinforces their attitudes and causes them to attract even more of the same in an endless loop.You can believe whatever you want, but I think the RP assertion is accurate and men understanding that the love they receive is conditional is critical to understanding why men must always be striving to improve. Reminder, 76% of divorces are initiated by women. Was their love unconditional? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Red pillers see women as dishonest / out to get them / subhuman / only good for sex, because due to RPers own behavior / attitudes, they only attract bottom-tier, psychologically damaged women, which then reinforces their attitudes and causes them to attract even more of the same in an endless loop.Men are taught love from their mothers and generally only love unconditionally. Women have that relationship with their children. Women are also described as ignorant, selfish, immature beings and thus compared to teens and children I would agree with that description, but not for all women, just you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 02:22 PM |
| 2 | Men who are sure their woman is loyal, wouldn't let their woman be hit on in a bar, by Chad, as an experiment.Is letting a man buy you a drink cheating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 02:25 AM |
| 0 | Red pillers see women as dishonest / out to get them / subhuman / only good for sex, because due to RPers own behavior / attitudes, they only attract bottom-tier, psychologically damaged women, which then reinforces their attitudes and causes them to attract even more of the same in an endless loop.They say that women love differently and I think that's accurate. Women have unconditional love for their children, not their men. I'm not sure what you mean by unaware. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 01:02 AM |
| -2 | Red pillers see women as dishonest / out to get them / subhuman / only good for sex, because due to RPers own behavior / attitudes, they only attract bottom-tier, psychologically damaged women, which then reinforces their attitudes and causes them to attract even more of the same in an endless loop.Well since I have found RP to conform very will to my experiences I can tell you that you are wrong. What you are claiming is not what I believe. I just told you what I believe. Should I tell you what you believe? I'm sure I could get creative and think up some really weird stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 03:20 PM |
| 3 | Red pillers see women as dishonest / out to get them / subhuman / only good for sex, because due to RPers own behavior / attitudes, they only attract bottom-tier, psychologically damaged women, which then reinforces their attitudes and causes them to attract even more of the same in an endless loop.Red Pill says that women are the same as men, no better, no worse. This is very different from the Blue Pill perspective that women are sugar and spice and everything nice, and are the fairer sex, the better half in a relationship, etc. RP arguably takes a much more humanizing view of women, that they are capable of being just as bad as men. Your entire premise is false. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 02:14 PM |
| 1 | Men that complain about "asshole dark triad" are just mad they cannot be assholes, manipulate women, and still get laidYou are the hate group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 02:09 PM |
| 0 | Most relationships with the woman earning double the income of her partner are doomed to fail from the startYou have come across the paradox that keeps successful women single. There are men who could be home makers, but most women don't want to support a man like that, they want a power house man that earns more than them, but powerhouse men won't value her salary all that much and will evaluate her on how she can compliment his life and expand it in ways that a peer career person can't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 04:06 AM |
| 6 | Men who are sure their woman is loyal, wouldn't let their woman be hit on in a bar, by Chad, as an experiment.Women don't define what they do cheating, it's one of the ways they rationalize it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 01:21 AM |
| 1 | A 90% women and 10% men world would be betterI think the obvious answer is to look at all the female dominated societies around the world to see how well this would work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 01:17 AM |
| 1 | Men that complain about "asshole dark triad" are just mad they cannot be assholes, manipulate women, and still get laidYour belief system is toxic. You're demonizing RP with out actually taking the time to understand it and confront flaws in female dating and relationship strategy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 12:11 AM |
| 6 | Men that complain about "asshole dark triad" are just mad they cannot be assholes, manipulate women, and still get laidI'm not back tracking at all. We are stuck in a loop with you telling me what I believe and me trying to correct you. I am, after all, an expert on what I believe. Maybe you should stick to discussions that represent your feelings and beliefs and spend less time telling other people what you think they think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 12:14 PM |
| 2 | Men that complain about "asshole dark triad" are just mad they cannot be assholes, manipulate women, and still get laidMaybe her feelings are like a mans, maybe their not?? I have no idea if my feelings are the same as a guy standing next to me. How could I possibly know if someones feelings are like mine? You are so naive. Redpill in a nutshell, woman aren’t people with real feelings. There's no nutshell, you are just nuts. Your comments are baseless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 05:53 AM |
| 7 | Men that complain about "asshole dark triad" are just mad they cannot be assholes, manipulate women, and still get laidit suggests woman can’t have real emotions or feelings like men do It doesn't suggest anything like that. It suggests you as a man don't control her. Whether a woman's feelings are like a man's is irrelevant. Maybe they are, maybe they aren't, but they are her feelings and not the man's and she's doing with those feelings whatever she wants. when in fact the guy should be hurt from the experience and learn from it by making personal boundaries. Honestly you are so way off base with your beliefs … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 05:39 AM |
| 10 | Men that complain about "asshole dark triad" are just mad they cannot be assholes, manipulate women, and still get laidbut it’s also an excuse for lack of personal responsibility I would argue it's the exact opposite, it's telling you to take personality responsibility. ‘females’ are simple creatures which can’t deny their female nature and can be controlled by the right guy. RP isn't about controlling women, in fact a strong tenant in RP is 'She's not yours it's just your turn'. It speaks to the fact that women change their mind, often based on a change in their available options, and there's nothing you can do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 05:02 AM |
| 7 | Men that complain about "asshole dark triad" are just mad they cannot be assholes, manipulate women, and still get laidI have no idea where that stat comes from but I would argue people arrive at RP because they have had bad experiences with women. It's RP that give them the tools stop focusing on women so much and just getting their life going. Which indirectly often means women start becoming interested. I understand RP came from a PUA background, but I personally don't even think those are the most interesting aspects of RP. The basic life advice for a man to always be improving is great advice whether you ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 04:42 AM |
| 12 | Men that complain about "asshole dark triad" are just mad they cannot be assholes, manipulate women, and still get laidI mean people all over the world have by and large similar drives. There's obviously a spectrum and people don't all fall in the same spot, but most people are near the middle. That's how averages work. If you are planning a strategy you go where the majority of people are, it isn't logical to target small pockets of aberrant behavior unless for some reason you have access to a collection of people with that behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 04:33 AM |
| 1 | Would you prefer a society governed by Islamic law and norms over the status quo?What on Earth does your question have to do with RP? Of course we wouldn't want to live in a country like that. There are barely any Islamic countries that are out of the stone age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 04:14 AM |
| 11 | Men that complain about "asshole dark triad" are just mad they cannot be assholes, manipulate women, and still get laidThis is why RP is so important. The reaction you are talking about is a BP reaction. When guys have been told that women care about them being nice, being dependable, being loyal, working towards having a career, being family focused and then they see that what they were told doesn't work. It's when you take the RP that you realize what is going on. I'll give a example of this, BP mentality would tell you that having money is attractive to women, so saving for a house, retirement, being good at … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/24 04:09 AM |
| 3 | A lot of men need to lower their standardsWe can't control what the opposite sex wants but we can control how we treat the opposite sex and who we give our attention to. What we are attracted to is basically baked in. But I agree in time someone who is physically attractive can be diminished in your eyes quite quickly when you start to see narcissistic and toxic traits, but this comes from learning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 03:02 PM |
| 0 | Women put the bar higher for men than most would want for themselves.It's common to have to date older when you are younger. Women in their 20s (and early 20s in particular) are so in demand that they can act almost any way they want, which if you are a 8 or below can mean you are treated pretty horribly. But those older women function more as practice than long term. I mean 18 year old men aren't marrying 30 year old women. Regardless of what they tell themselves when embarking. When I was 24 I dated a 35 year old woman, mostly for the same reason, I wasn't attr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 02:19 PM |
| 2 | Women put the bar higher for men than most would want for themselves.Well if you are mature and lead a mature life, she will catch on quick. Women are smart, you wouldn't deal with immaturity for long. Instead of thinking about the guys who would traumatize her, be that positive guy that redefines what she expects from a man. When I was 47 I dated a 31 year old. It didn't work out due to distance but that's what she told me in parting, that I had redefined in her head what a man could be and how she wanted to be treated going forward. I thought that was a pretty … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 01:55 PM |
| 5 | A lot of men need to lower their standardsThis is a classic BP mentality. Everyone thinks about their good qualities, asserts in their head that these are THE important qualities that should be valued and naturally give themselves a high score on their own made up rating system. They then struggle to understand why their results don't match this self rating. They blame the opposite sex of not realizing how their way of seeing things is the right way. Btw, all these attempts at viewing gender norms as fungible has made this worse. People… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 01:40 PM |
| 2 | Men hold all the “power” in dating/relationshipsHonestly women are the fisherman, you just don't realize you're a fish. Women ignore the fish they don't want and lay bait for the big fish they do want. Men chase a woman until she catches him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 05:44 AM |
| 2 | Women put the bar higher for men than most would want for themselves.Well that wasn't my point, my point was simply look for a higher quality woman, she will usually be younger than the one that just gave you a headache listening to her list of requirements. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 05:21 AM |
| 2 | Men hold all the “power” in dating/relationshipsAt the end of the day, however you want to try to anchor the experience, men and women both have a say and both choose. Both genders get to pick what they are willing to do and what they are willing to put up with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 05:16 AM |
| 5 | Women put the bar higher for men than most would want for themselves.So half the time if a woman is giving you a list of things she wants in a man it's just her way of saying not interested or she's delusional. She could walk 10' and go for someone else missing everything she just told you she wants. Don't argue with a woman about what she wants, it's pointless. There's something incredibly special about how a woman acts when she's attracted to you. The flip side of that is that there is nothing less interesting than a woman who's not interested in you. So let he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 05:14 AM |
| 7 | Women put the bar higher for men than most would want for themselves.Can you help me with a usable definition of toxic masculinity, it's usually used to explain psychopaths and mass shooters and is thrown around as a generic insult towards all men but the latter usage in particular just seem to stem from more of an anti masculinity view point. As for women's long list of requirements it's best for men to more or less ignore them, women are rarely consistent in terms of what they say they want and what they actually go after. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 05:02 AM |
| 2 | Do you think women's preferences shift as they mature or do they just "settle" for men they find less attractive because they want to get marriedRPs answer is that women have the guys they are attracted to and the guys they can extract resources from. When it's time to have kids, get a nicer home, etc they need to invest more time in the guys they can extract resources from. So to those men, they meet women with sky high standards, who never settle, who complain at the smallest inconvenience. They are in full on resource extraction mode. Like a person haggling over prices at the farmers market. They very well would act quite different wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Why is it okay for a woman to change, yet not when men do it?I think a guy who was taught to simp for women, always getting friend zoned, having his time sucked away by women who are indifferent to him is well served to realize that true friends reciprocate and that if his stopping simping is seen as 'him being mean' then he truly should look elsewhere for friends who match his effort. This is healthy and maturing. If a woman realizes that she keeps getting used by losers by throwing sex at them and thinks, I'm going to start acting like I'm worth somethi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 08:16 PM |
| 1 | Why is it okay for a woman to change, yet not when men do it?I literally quoted that from OPs original post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Why is it okay for a woman to change, yet not when men do it?I think I understand a woman makes changes good. A man makes changes bad. It makes so much more sense now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 07:25 PM |
| 0 | Why does TRP make people so angry?I think the anger over RP mostly stems from the exposing of things that women would prefer not to be exposed. It basically shines a spotlight on bad behavior and it's behavior women expend a large amount of time trying to narrate is not occurring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 04:34 PM |
| 0 | Why is it okay for a woman to change, yet not when men do it?It's like, if they let bad boy's hit it on the first date, and did all kinds of wild stuff. And she claims to have changed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 04:11 PM |
| -1 | The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them.Red Pill isn't about men, it's about exposing women. If you grew up in a Blue Pilled world you were taught that women are made up of sugar and spice and everything nice. That they are the fairer sex. The better half in a relationship. That women work tirelessly, twice as hard as man for half of the results. Red Pill pulls back the curtain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 04:10 PM |
| 1 | Most men are not friends with their girlfriends/wivesAlthough clearly you should like, love and respect your partner, I actually don't think it's entirely healthy to make your partner your main friend. Reasons can very but some of it is that women often store up negative emotions around situations and personalize things that don't have anything to do with them, so if you over share your feelings it can come back to bite you. An example of this is the classic complaint that women throw personal things in your face during arguments, hinting at huge … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 11:32 AM |
| 15 | On why "Conditional Femininity" makes senseThis is like the guy who says, I have a yacht and a villa in the south of France, you just have to play your cards right and you'll get to see them. You wanna be a masculine boss babe, you have every right to be whatever you wanna be, google luck with that. It's a hard pass from me and most men, however. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 05:13 AM |
| 4 | Where is the current dating disaster headed? It can’t possibly sustain itself for much longer, and women only seem to be getting more delusionâl.The people who don't reproduce leave less of those people in the next generation, they just get replaced by people who are reproducing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Women know how to put in effort but chose not to.I think men and women optimize their effort based on their experiences in the dating market. Women put in the amount of effort that they need to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/24 03:08 AM |
| 6 | How do some heterosexual men expect to have sex, while also shaming sexually active women/body count?But yet, why is it that HE can exchange in the recreational fun, but still consider himself husband material? It's simple, people are rewarded for doing what is difficult. For a man to build himself up to be desired by women takes a great deal of work and effort, that's why it's admired. For a woman to hold out and be selective is difficult and requires effort and that's why it's admired. Also the way women pair bond is different than men and you can look at data on divorce to see that after a c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 10:31 PM |
| -1 | Why is it okay for a woman to change, yet not when men do it?And women see nice guys as toxic, which is why he's not doing it anymore. So back to OPs question, why are women celebrated for making changes and men who change seen as bad when both are adjusting their dating strategies based on the prior outcomes not being to their liking? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 10:15 PM |
| -3 | Why is it okay for a woman to change, yet not when men do it?It's a woman saying she's not going to do the things she used to do for past boyfriends and a guy saying he's not going to do the same thing for girls he likes. Your perspective is that you are entitled to this guys attention and therefore if he stops its mean. Is it mean for a woman to not have sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 10:07 PM |
| – | Why is it okay for a woman to change, yet not when men do it?how is this a real question? OPs question or the retarded straw man question you twisted it into? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 10:00 PM |
| 2 | Our culture’s trashing of boys and men is having toxic consequencesI suspect they are promoting people based on adherence to ideological beliefs. Oh I don't doubt it, but if your endeavor fails does it matter? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 07:36 PM |
| 18 | Most of the men who have low standards have them low because they aren't desirable enough to have them high.I think one of the most enlightening aspects of RP is letting men know it's okay for them to have preferences. BP life is so full of placating women and putting up with nonsense. It turns out when you actually stop wasting time on terrible women you start to be able to find and identify quality women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 07:18 PM |
| 6 | Our culture’s trashing of boys and men is having toxic consequencesI wouldn't take it too seriously. Most successful entities base their decisions on performance and success. It's a relatively new paradigm to suggest that women and people of color were simply denied opportunity and therefore merit be damned, we are just going to put women and people of color in charge now. I mean pretty much every business that has embraced this is struggling. There's plenty of talented women and people of color, they will do fine in a meritocracy, but promoting random people b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 07:17 PM |
| 0 | Redditors rush to defend a neglectful mom, claiming "post-partum depression".Well this is why I say we live in a matriarchy. Women are in the protected class so all of their behavior is supported and justified. Men are in the disposable class and anything they do that a woman thinks is wrong is because he's useless and a bad person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 01:28 PM |
| 1 | The reason for women's high bar for a partner is because most needs are being fulfilled by friends/hookups/society.This is only true for women in their 20s. The dynamic changes around your 30s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 06:42 AM |
| 5 | Men Shouldn't Feel Obligated to Rescue Women After Relationship BetrayalsI think when you meet an attractive woman there's usually a surprise that they are even single. Most single women are single because of major faults. So the narrative that they just got unlucky and were abused by their last horrible boyfriend gives a semi blue pill plausible explanation as to why they are where they are. So your typical blue pill response is to think you maybe have a good woman who just needs to find the right guy. I don't think it's about fixing someone as much as you are surro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 06:24 AM |
| 7 | Men Shouldn't Feel Obligated to Rescue Women After Relationship BetrayalsWe essentially live in a matriarchy with women protected and given preferential treatment in nearly every interaction, they won't admit that and spend all their time pretending to be oppressed by a patriarchy. If you think they won't admit that you think they will just come clean and admit they are more looks conscious then men are? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 06:19 AM |
| 1 | What's wrong with women making rules for some and breaking it for others? It's just common senseWow, with insight like that you should start your own youtube channel. Sell t-shirts. Maybe write a book. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 01:51 AM |
| 1 | What's wrong with women making rules for some and breaking it for others? It's just common senseYour lips are moving and yet nothing intelligent is coming out of your mouth. Have you seen a doctor about this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 01:50 AM |
| 1 | What's wrong with women making rules for some and breaking it for others? It's just common senseThere is shocking stuff in RP, just not the 'attractive people get more attention' talking point you seem to want to pretend is the core message. I would agree that improving yourself is the core conclusion, the core strategy, it is not the shocking unveiling of female dating strategy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 01:21 AM |
| 2 | What's wrong with women making rules for some and breaking it for others? It's just common senseI'm sorry, I only converse with those who are interested in talking to people who's life experience includes RP content. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 01:16 AM |
| 1 | What's wrong with women making rules for some and breaking it for others? It's just common senseTo highlight your point, just as women think 80% of women are trash, I'd turn that around and suggest a similar number of women are trash. Men really are fighting for that quality 20% of women, but most men aren't taught this. They are taught that being themselves is the best strategy and for someone blessed with good looks, good social skills and access to resources, being themselves probably is a simple strategy that works. For everyone else you need to work on yourself to have a chance with a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 01:10 AM |
| 1 | What's wrong with women making rules for some and breaking it for others? It's just common senseI dare say you are picking the non shocking elements of RP and pretending that people find those shocking. Is it possible your ignorance on the topic is the source of your confusion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 01:06 AM |
| 1 | What's wrong with women making rules for some and breaking it for others? It's just common senseWell if that's the case I would politely suggest your refrain from commenting on posts flared with RP. You do have a choice in doing this you realize? Unless your definition of a dialog more closely resembles a monologue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/24 01:05 AM |
| 1 | What's wrong with women making rules for some and breaking it for others? It's just common senseQuite the opposite, blue pilled men are taught that woman focus on more than looks, that being kind, showing up for her, not focusing on your attraction for her, setting that aside and being a friend is the best approach. RP calls this out as bullshit and is just blue pill beta conditioning. I think many men are shocked to realize that women are quite a bit more shallow when it comes to looks then men. Men actually find over half of women to be at least somewhat attractive. Women are more like 5… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 10:44 PM |
| 0 | Is the use of makeup deceptive?It's not deceptive, in some ways it reveals how insecure a woman is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 12:50 PM |
| 2 | Ladies of PPD, whom would you believe in this hypothetical scenario?you're saying men are not more intelligent or moral than wild animals, predators at that Not at all, but it's quite telling about you that you would conclude that. I'm just trying to find if there's any limit that would allow for personal responsibility blame to be assigned to someone you deem a victim. Let's remove the lion al together. If a person is black out drunk and they decide to climb a bridge and they fall, who is to blame? trying something new isn't rape We are talking about the woman,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/24 12:29 PM |
| 1 | Ladies of PPD, whom would you believe in this hypothetical scenario?She stated the person being raped is drugged/passed out not the perpetrator. They can obviously be raped. What, did you read the post? "So two people get drunk in a bar" How would they have know? Women typically know when they’ve been penetrated No, I'm asking how would a blacked out person know that they raped someone? You are claiming that the purported victim has no ability to consent, how would the purported attacker have the ability to interpret consent or make any decisions that the victim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 10:45 PM |
| 0 | Ladies of PPD, whom would you believe in this hypothetical scenario?Why would you do that? Turn yourself in to the police then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 10:42 PM |
| 0 | Ladies of PPD, whom would you believe in this hypothetical scenario?Possible is not the same as plausible or provable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Ladies of PPD, whom would you believe in this hypothetical scenario?Post? You're responding to something someone wrote on reddit. Did you just wake up here and you don't know what's going on or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 10:41 PM |
| -1 | Ladies of PPD, whom would you believe in this hypothetical scenario?what does consenting to drinking have to do with anythign? If a person gets black out drunk and climbs into a lion exhibit and gets attacked, would you assign 100% blame on the lion? People choose to get drunk to lower the inhibitions and to try things they wouldn't do when sober. Have you had alcoholic drinks before? if you consent to get blackout drunk, you're saying its legal for me to stick a dildo up your ass? I'd say you are choosing to not let your judgement rule what happens to you. I wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 10:38 PM |
| -1 | Ladies of PPD, whom would you believe in this hypothetical scenario?Did she consent to the drinking? Did she consent to getting drunk? When exactly does her choices become 100% the responsibility of a man who is nearby? And who do we blame if there isn't a man nearby? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 10:30 PM |
| 0 | Ladies of PPD, whom would you believe in this hypothetical scenario?Are people who have been drugged/blacked out capable of raping someone? How would they have know? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 10:29 PM |
| 0 | Ladies of PPD, whom would you believe in this hypothetical scenario?Okay, so let's stay on topic. What evidence that has been presented suggests that the article we are commenting on relates to SA? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 10:28 PM |
| -2 | Ladies of PPD, whom would you believe in this hypothetical scenario?And is there any evidence that anything remotely like that happened here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 10:03 PM |
| 4 | What non-anecdotal evidence do we have that women are happier in marriage now than they were in historical retrospective?They do if you are looking at household income. Basically they no longer have the man's income. Which should have been obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 10:02 PM |
| -1 | Ladies of PPD, whom would you believe in this hypothetical scenario?I guess if she was on top, that's consensual? More than likely yes. I mean, not a rolling over was on top while trying to stand up and leave, but yeah, if she rides him for 20 minutes on top I think it's fair to say it was consensual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Have women tried to manipulate you to commit or treat them well by saying these things?100% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 09:31 PM |
| 3 | Men do peak in their 30s, just like TRP says - Just not with the women they wantI think the point is, after you've worked on yourself your attraction goes up to women of all ages. I'm don't think at 35 I was looking to date a 20 year old woman. I mean I'd hook up with one at a wedding or something, but to date, mid to late 20s would be have been better. When I was 38 I started dating a 27 year old and that became my mostly long term partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 07:21 PM |
| 4 | What non-anecdotal evidence do we have that women are happier in marriage now than they were in historical retrospective?I think that's true for women, men usually front the bill for divorce so they actually skin in the game preventing them from leaving. We built a system where women can leave and for men it is not so easy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 07:12 PM |
| 1 | What non-anecdotal evidence do we have that women are happier in marriage now than they were in historical retrospective?My anecdotal evidence is that women are never truly happy. It is just their chemical makeup. They are programmed to worry about things. I mean look at the divorce rate among lesbian couples. Women are typically unhappy and typically think others are to blame for their unhappiness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 07:11 PM |
| 0 | Have women tried to manipulate you to commit or treat them well by saying these things?So yes to your question, but I had always seen phrases like “my ex(es) were abusive” as a complete failure to take any accountability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 12:58 PM |
| 1 | Parents have to be more conscious about structuring the socialization of their kids, especially boysLet boys compete and strive to be the best. Stop trying to make everyone a winner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 02:47 AM |
| 4 | What's wrong with women making rules for some and breaking it for others? It's just common senseWe aren't please enlighten us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 02:46 AM |
| 6 | Parents have to be more conscious about structuring the socialization of their kids, especially boysI think the key is keep feminism away from boys. Let boys be boys and stop telling them to hold back so women and girls can feel like they are more. The girls will be fine. Boys should focus on being boys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/24 12:57 AM |
| 1 | The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamyShe cannot secure chad because her SMV is higher than her RMV, thats why she's chasing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 11:30 PM |
| 11 | What's wrong with women making rules for some and breaking it for others? It's just common senseI just saw it as great clarifying explanation for why women are the way they are. It also makes the idea of 'just be yourself' totally silly (unless your natural self happens to align with women's attractions standards). I previously had just thought 'most women are mean and complicated' and it was quite a relief to realize 'no they are just disappointingly shallow and most of the seeming complexity stems from their juggling multiple options' and if you can fit the script of what they are lookin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 02:32 PM |
| 23 | What's wrong with women making rules for some and breaking it for others? It's just common senseIt's not a matter of whether it is wrong or right, it's simply something men should be aware of and learn to navigate. It's not your job (and it would fail miserably) to try to get women to change. It simply is the playing field a man must traverse. RP points out that you can get the shitty deal or you can get the good deal and it encourages you to strive for getting the good deal. Prior to RP many men weren't aware there was an option other than the shitty deal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 02:18 PM |
| 1 | What kind of standards do you think are reasonable and which ones are not?You can have any standards you want, though I'd suggest the standards fall within the range of what you could actually attract. As an example, I could say my standard is to only date Victoria Secret models, however I do not have the looks, wealth, or status to attract a Victoria Secret model so this would be a pretty silly standard for me to demand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 02:05 PM |
| 3 | The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamyYou: Women are the selectors, and they consistently choose men who see them only as sex objects. Me: Their value is purely casual dating. Are we not saying the same thing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 01:48 PM |
| 2 | Desexualization and InsecurityI think the area of self improvement for you might just be in your outlook on life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 04:25 AM |
| 2 | The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamyI think it would work more like this. A family promises their daughter as part of an agreement with a powerful tribe to secure peace and prosperity for her family. Some older dude with wealth. She is obliged to have a son with said guy. Then while this old man is off finding new wives and doing rich guy stuff she starts to bang some young attractive guard. A man she presumably finds physically attractive. She's secured resources for her children she's found an alpha to fuck. There's a reason why… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 04:22 AM |
| 1 | The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamyThere's plenty of objectively physically attractive women in their mid to late 30s who can't seem to find a man for a relationship. They perceive it as a shortage of quality men. RP would view it differently, they have low relationship value so the quality men don't want to have relationships with them. They only have their lingering sexual market value, so their offers are primarily for situationships and casual dating, and those men don't date them exclusively. Which they don't want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 04:18 AM |
| 2 | Desexualization and InsecurityWhy would he bother coming back if he's treated like a king in the East? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 04:16 AM |
| 1 | The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamyI think the key point is that there's sexual market value and relationship market value. A woman's sexual market value is almost always higher than her relationship market value. Having men court them for sex is not the same as a committed relationship. A combination of unrealistic standards an low relationship value has many women struggling to find guys that they deem worthy of dating. They just don't see that men don't see them worthy of dating either. Their value is purely casual dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 04:15 AM |
| 8 | Desexualization and InsecurityI agree. I think that's where blackpill comes from. Let's say hypothetically you can move up maybe 2 points in attractiveness. If you're a 5 you can get to a 7, and that likely is a material change in dating options (approaching chadlite), but if you are a 3 moving to say a 5 well that may have no tangible change in your experience at all due to women treating like 80% of men as non existent. In that case a more drastic move may be required. For example for a man 5'8" below maybe considering mov… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 04:10 AM |
| 0 | The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamyIn the past a woman's social/community circle just wasn't that big, so she was hypergamous within the community she had access to. That only becomes settling when women can expand their dating to men that live miles away. In my 30s I had plenty of women willing to get on a plane and fly to come visit me because they liked me more than the guys in their area. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 01:31 AM |
| 4 | The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamyI think a lot of women just become femcels (woman unable to secure long term committed relationships) because they choose to pursue a lifestyle that doesn't attract top quality men. I use the term femcels because they are sort of the equivalent of incels, only they could get sex, they just can't secure relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 01:29 AM |
| 4 | The dating imbalance can be explained by one factor: hypergamyNah, men have a spreading the seed mating strategy. This boils down to a single woman if he cannot successfully and consistently get multiple women. The dual mating strategy of women is that they seek reproductive mating using physical traits and seek longer term resource dating with longer term mates and often due both at the same time. The so called 'We are looking for 10s or 7s with money'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 01:28 AM |
| 21 | Desexualization and InsecurityI don't think the message is 'It doesn't matter'. I think the message is, you can only control what you can control, so focusing on things you can't control doesn't matter. Focus on being the most kick ass version of yourself you can be. Being physically fit, being competent, having the ability to read peoples body language and keep things enjoyable during conversation, having good physical hygiene alone with good grooming, are all areas that are simply worth improving for just you yourself, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 12:58 AM |
| 2 | Attraction to older women (30+) is more unusual than attraction to legal teensOkay, thanks for the data point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Attraction to older women (30+) is more unusual than attraction to legal teensSorry, I meant unhinged and creepy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/24 12:47 AM |
| 3 | It is always a mans fault if he can't attract women in a majority of peoples minds?Well said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 11:13 PM |
| 4 | Women who hate Redpillers do not hate RedpillersTotal 4 thing to say /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 11:12 PM |
| 2 | Attraction to older women (30+) is more unusual than attraction to legal teensI don't know any red pill person advocating for children and sub 18 year olds. I think the RP message is date as young as you can realistically attract. Most 50 year old men have zero shot of attracting an 18 year old. That's where the divide your age in half and add 7 formulate comes from. A 50 year old might have a shot with a 32 year old woman on the younger end. But that would depend on the 50 year old and the 32 year old. In most cases you're talking about a 5-10 year range. But of course, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 10:49 PM |
| 4 | Attraction to older women (30+) is more unusual than attraction to legal teensThen I get called a misandrist for saying most men hate most women. That's most likely due to your statement being a misandrist opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 10:45 PM |
| 0 | Attraction to older women (30+) is more unusual than attraction to legal teensYou seem kinda of creepy honestly. The way you project on to people negative feelings that aren't accurate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 10:43 PM |
| 8 | Attraction to older women (30+) is more unusual than attraction to legal teensPhysical attraction isn't taught. Seeing an attractive person is a chemically driven feeling to a survey of the persons biological fitness for reproduction. Clear skin, symmetric body, glossy hair, body shape. It all bubbles to a nearly instantaneous verdict of suitability for reproduction. That's what beauty is. A female monarch butterfly won't mate with a male butterfly that's pattern is 1/64th out of perfect symmetry. He's too ugly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Attraction to older women (30+) is more unusual than attraction to legal teensAnd which one was that...? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 10:40 PM |
| -3 | Attraction to older women (30+) is more unusual than attraction to legal teensYou're reading too much into it. The feminist matriarchy is constantly trying to tell me to pony up and marry these boss babe women in their late 30s. They think we just need to learn to find them attractive. The point of all this is simply that woman are physically more desirable in their late teens and early 20s. Heck younger men are physically more desirable in their 20s. The only difference with men is that other attributes of attraction can accumulate into your 30s and even 40s if a man is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/24 10:34 PM |
| 3 | What do you think it is about avoidant, "emotionally unavailable" men that makes them so intoxicating to, what seems like, the vast majority of women?You talk too much about grass. Btw, Attachment styles are bullshit pseudo intellectual nonsense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 05:32 PM |
| 2 | The solution is not women lowering lower their standards - it's males stepping their game upSo first your entire list is subjective. So it immediately tells me or any guy, that you are going to complain a lot. There's no way for me to know if I qualify for anything on your list but I'm sure you'll tell me. Some of the words on your list fall under the category of what I'd call coded. Meaning they are a placeholder for many things. Let's take 'Ambitious'. Most people that know me would consider me ambitious. I worked in tech, bought my first home at 32, started my own business and have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 05:31 PM |
| 1 | The solution is not women lowering lower their standards - it's males stepping their game upBtw, if you want the real answer as to why your list is a major red flag and ridiculous I'm happy to help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 05:02 PM |
| 3 | What do you think it is about avoidant, "emotionally unavailable" men that makes them so intoxicating to, what seems like, the vast majority of women?Keep away from the weed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 05:00 PM |
| 1 | The solution is not women lowering lower their standards - it's males stepping their game upWell if it makes you feel any better a few days a month I drop my standards and I'll get with the hottest woman I can find. But then I enter a phase of 3-5 days where I regret this and get upset at the woman for lying to me. But I still don't understand why you aren't just trying harder to meet my minimum standards. It's clear women are the problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 03:04 PM |
| 2 | The solution is not women lowering lower their standards - it's males stepping their game upIt also seems that your requirements are unreasonable I'm just seeking the bare minimum. You women need to try harder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 02:32 PM |
| 6 | What do you think it is about avoidant, "emotionally unavailable" men that makes them so intoxicating to, what seems like, the vast majority of women?The best narrative I've heard explain this is that due to women's comparatively physical frailty they rely heavily on group protection. So if they encounter someone who doesn't seem to like them they instinctively see this as a threat to their safety as they see not being liked as a risk that they won't be protected. So their response is to try very hard to be liked. Once they think you like them they can revert to their opinion of you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 02:25 PM |
| 2 | The solution is not women lowering lower their standards - it's males stepping their game upOf course it's an assumption. Do you make over $700k annually? If not I don't consider you ambitious. Do you weigh under 125 lbs? If not I don't consider you 'not unhealthy'. If you don't own a personal home and a vacation home then I don't consider you 'having your shit together'. So do you meet those requirements? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 02:22 PM |
| – | Physical attraction isnt a shallow thing to desireA billionaire will get all of those things, are you kidding me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 12:46 PM |
| 1 | Women complaining about men only valuing their bodies do not realise how boring the average woman is. Men being Homosocials is only logical.Totally agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 11:55 AM |
| 1 | The solution is not women lowering lower their standards - it's males stepping their game upOh I didn't even bother with the list it's so silly. How many of these items do you meet? Do you weigh less than 125 lbs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 11:54 AM |
| – | Physical attraction isnt a shallow thing to desireI think that a billionaire's bare minimum is going to include many if not every positive trait on top of good looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 11:53 AM |
| 6 | The solution is not women lowering lower their standards - it's males stepping their game upShe just wrote a checklist of 41 points a man must have that she herself doesn't meet a single one of the items on that list. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 11:46 AM |
| 3 | The solution is not women lowering lower their standards - it's males stepping their game upNot to mention to even reach those 41 bare minimums you need to be tall, fit, attractive, and wealthy without being a workaholic. Your basic billionaire, ex pro athlete, who just got out of jail 6 months ago type. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 11:44 AM |
| 3 | The solution is not women lowering lower their standards - it's males stepping their game upIt didn't even occur to me to bother reading the list. I assumed that was the joke and thought 'good one'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 11:42 AM |
| 3 | The solution is not women lowering lower their standards - it's males stepping their game upAnother item to add to her list Must have iPhone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 11:41 AM |
| 2 | The solution is not women lowering lower their standards - it's males stepping their game uplol, you forgot the /s at the end. Seriously though, there are women like this and they are the undatable ones. Men the reason it is so critical to work on yourself is so that you can avoid women like OP is pretending to be. I dated a lot (easily into triple digits) and this happens to women who over date. They usually are objectively attractive and at first you think you've lucked out finding such an attractive single woman, then you realize why. She's created a greatest hits list of expectatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 11:40 AM |
| 2 | Women complaining about men only valuing their bodies do not realise how boring the average woman is. Men being Homosocials is only logical.How women act around you depends entirely on how they perceive your value. If women don't find you attractive they ignore you, are stand offish, and otherwise try to pretend you don't exist. If a woman respects or is attracted to you she goes out of her way to be charming. From what you are describing, it just sounds like these are women who don't value you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 11:32 AM |
| 1 | Hypergamy is a great thing. Made everything better.Ok question for you. What do you think I mean? Considering she will need to be educated and have financial options, what age would be ideal? I have no idea what you mean. I think a woman maximizes her relationship stock if she's having kids in her 20s. 25-30 is a good time to start. Women can have healthy kids into their 40s (especially with IVF) but a safer bet is before 35. So from a man's perspective. Assuming you want to have a family with multiple kids, figure at least 1.5 years between kid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 02:23 AM |
| 2 | Hypergamy is a great thing. Made everything better.Maybe men don't initiate divorce as often because a significant amount of men are comfortable not liking their wives. I think it's more likely men are taught to honor their words a bit more where as women are taught to trust their feelings and prioritize themselves. Most of my friends have major frustrations with their wives but ultimately see divorce as forcing them to restart. They will just avoid them but assume that its the price they pay to have domestic comfort. What exactly do you think m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 01:50 AM |
| 2 | Misogyny on the InternetI think you've given yourself away by saying 'seen'. So you mostly just watch youtube content. Trying reading a book. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/24 01:40 AM |
| 2 | Misogyny on the InternetYou've been lied to. It's easier for you to dismiss RP by labeling it as grifting than to engage with the cold hard truths it exposes. I agree some people go black pill and aren't constructive, but that's not everyone for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 11:08 PM |
| 2 | Misogyny on the InternetI'm curious why you say that. I see RP advice as improve everywhere. For example, if shy join clubs like toast masters to learn to speak in public. If poor hygiene and grooming focus on these areas, use mannequins at the mall to see how outfits are put together. RP is more about owning your faults and not expecting anyone else to accept you or fix them for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 11:05 PM |
| 3 | Hypergamy is a great thing. Made everything better.I gave an example to highlight what I'm saying. You seem intent on dismissing my opinion without countering the merit of it. So why don't we play it this way. Explain to me why it is good for women to be incentivized to make life choices that are bad for their children and men? What would be the pros and cons as you see it? Women initiate 76% of divorces. If a woman is college educated and she's getting a divorce 90% of the time it's initiated by the woman. Don't you think a more natural number … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 10:47 PM |
| 1 | in your experience who initiates break-ups more?So on dating apps it's common for women to say 6' or taller only. Have you tried putting in your profile as a man women 125 lbs or under? Even if women match with you if they see that will say 'Oh just saw your comment on weight, you sound disgusting'. Thats an example of how it's policed. Same for any standard a man might have that would require a woman to not be available to meet new guys (going with single girlfriends to clubs, traveling abroad alone, etc). Women immediately label something l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 10:17 PM |
| 2 | Hypergamy is a great thing. Made everything better.Well I'll give you an example from Reddit. I read a story from a woman who said that her husband was a good father but he didn't make a lot of money. They argue some but overall he was a good man, but she had learned that if she divorced him, between child support and social services she was going to have an additional $650/month. So the rest of her post was justifying divorcing her husband because the combination of $650 net to her plus not needing to cook or clean for the man was really appeal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 10:12 PM |
| 3 | Why do women's dating frustrations match with what I experience irl?Because women's sexual market value is by-and-large higher than their relationship value. So your average woman can enter into a sexual relationship quite easily with a large percentage of men. That doesn't change their relationship value however and so if they are picking men substantially more attractive than them for a sexual relationship they are choosing to be with a guy who has zero interest in having a relationship with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 10:01 PM |
| 1 | in your experience who initiates break-ups more?Society pushes the idea that having any standards or imposing any boundaries from a man is toxic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 09:51 PM |
| 2 | Money doesn't matter till 30 for MenI'd agree that's probably true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 09:50 PM |
| 0 | Money doesn't matter till 30 for MenWait until you get a house. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 01:16 PM |
| 2 | Money doesn't matter till 30 for MenMost men aren't attracted to 30 year old career women though, so I think he's talking about the women most men want to date. The career woman path leads to unmarried women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 01:13 PM |
| 1 | Money doesn't matter till 30 for MenI think this is spot on. The one caveat I'd say though is that for most men, it's very hard to have a lot of money in your early 20s. Some exceptions. Athletes, entertainers. That's obviously a small percentage of people, but they clearly kill it with the ladies. So part of the reason is that in most cases, money of 20 year olds just isn't enough to make a difference, but if they had the money, it likely would. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 01:07 PM |
| 4 | Hypergamy is a great thing. Made everything better.Oh god, how many do you want. Let's start with encouraging single motherhood. Single motherhood is clearly bad for society due to the outcomes of the children, which are very poor in single mother households. Encouraging single mothers is bad for society. Yet look at family law, look at our entire (very expensive) safety net, overwhelmingly used by single mothers. We've made it so easy for women to become single mothers... lots of women keep doing it. Don't make women the default parents. Don't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 12:47 PM |
| 7 | Hypergamy is a great thing. Made everything better.There's nothing wrong with hypergamy, but we should stop rewarding women for bad behavior. As a society we've literally moved to propping up women's success. Everyone should compete on an equal playing field and if they want to go for the best guys, more power to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/24 04:02 AM |
| -1 | Why are so many dudes whipped?They just get worn down by 1,000 cuts. Hen pecked daily. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/24 05:43 PM |
| -2 | Are women aware of what they sexually respond to?It doesn't matter if they know or what they say they respond to. It only matters what they actually respond to. So don't try to figure it out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/24 02:08 PM |
| 5 | Women do prefer nice guys... but only if they're mature and self-respecting enough to value stability and character over all elseBeing nice is icing on the cake, it isn't a primary attractor. If you want to be nice, be nice, but it won't land you your best possible dating option. The beauty of RP is that it exposes the way women date. Are you the guy who gets her giddy, she bites her lip when she sees you, or are you a guy who has resources she knows she will have to play the long game to get you to pony up and contribute. A life of her always seeming to be unhappy and frustrated. Once you realize this you realize which t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/24 02:01 PM |
| 20 | Why do RP men argue that they shouldn’t have to compete or work hard to get with women?That's not a red pill belief and there's 4B women on this planet, so I will bid OP a good day and find a more partnership oriented woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/24 01:48 PM |
| 3 | “Psych Hacks” method for securing a high value man or commitment - lure him in with s*x, add value later.What did you mean when you wrote that women confuse the courtship experience for a dating experience? Courting is the phase where a man demonstrates his capacity as a provider. Taking her out, planning things, basically he's trying to impress her to want to keep getting to know him. That's very different than dating. When you're dating (or married) life is a lot more about you have your life goals, I have my life goals and we have shared life goals we work on together as part of our lives. It's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/24 05:55 PM |
| 3 | How did TRP make your life better? How has it affected your mood and outlook?I think by seeing how little most women bring to the table, you really appreciate a woman who has developed herself and actually does want to bring her effort and energy to the table. You appreciate quality more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/24 05:47 PM |
| 11 | How did TRP make your life better? How has it affected your mood and outlook?I think you hit the nail on the head. RP makes you realize how much time you've wasted trying to play in to the matriarchy and how it tells men they are the problem, if not for men women would be succeeding. Basically that everything is a man's fault and all good things come from women. Once you see the BS for what it is, you can just appreciate people for who they are. There's plenty of quality women and having quality people in your life is great. There's also tons of abusive, narcissistic, en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/24 05:46 PM |
| 1 | “Psych Hacks” method for securing a high value man or commitment - lure him in with s*x, add value later.Is he allowed to change his mind? Maybe the experience wasn't what he was hoping for. Why do you assume he was lying. It's more likely he didn't think the juice was worth the squeeze. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/24 05:37 PM |
| 3 | “Psych Hacks” method for securing a high value man or commitment - lure him in with s*x, add value later.I don't think it's unreasonable for a woman to think that a man who takes them on multiple dates is courting them. That's exactly what she should conclude. She should then ask herself, assuming she's interested and likes what the guy has shown so far what can I now do to show him that I'm more than just a woman who shows up? A lot of women say things like 'they only put out effort in the beginning' missing the point that a man slowly reverts to the energy and effort he's receiving back. The vast… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/24 05:31 PM |
| 2 | “Psych Hacks” method for securing a high value man or commitment - lure him in with s*x, add value later.Can you give an example? Such as a guy saying he's looking to settle down and get married and that he's dating with intentions, only to realize a woman offers nothing other than showing up so he moves on, then she blames him, saying he lied. Do you mean that sort of example? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/24 05:28 PM |
| 4 | “Psych Hacks” method for securing a high value man or commitment - lure him in with s*x, add value later.He's right that most women lack relationship game. They confuse the courtship phase of dating for a relationship, so they just bounce from courtship to courtship every few months thinking that the courtship experience is a dating experience. Then they wonder why the guy loses interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/24 04:02 PM |
| 1 | So if Women in the US go after the top percent of guys while they are young, do average guys need to wait for them to settle for them when they get older?I think we are saying the same thing. I'm just prepending relationship time, to reach a suitable investment time to want to start having kids. If you're 30 and just starting a relationship and you saw yourself having more than one kid, starting a relationship at 30, courtship, vetting, engagement, wedding, first child, second child, you are very rushed to get all that done before 35. That's why you start with a woman under 30. You are just looking at it from the 'can she have a single baby today… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/24 05:23 AM |
| 1 | So if Women in the US go after the top percent of guys while they are young, do average guys need to wait for them to settle for them when they get older?Women past 30 have less than 10% of their eggs left. Yes they are fertile but starting the courtship process, vetting, an engagement, marriage. You are running out of time. The bigger problems start at 35+. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/24 04:00 AM |
| -1 | Let's have this discussion, whom does society favors more?In the west it's clearly a matriarchy. Taxes are raised primarily from men so that the Government can implement services that primarily benefit women. Women are legally protected in practice more than men, women are sentenced less, crimes like SA committed by women even against minors are regularly ignored. In states like California laws force companies to put women with less experience in positions that they haven't earned on boards. Women are the default victors of divorce and child custody. W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Do most men want to boycott older women, or are younger women just more available?Absolutely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 04:29 AM |
| 1 | So if Women in the US go after the top percent of guys while they are young, do average guys need to wait for them to settle for them when they get older?The good ones are taken early, so it's in men's best interest to look to date the good ones who haven't been taken off the market yet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 02:58 AM |
| 0 | So if Women in the US go after the top percent of guys while they are young, do average guys need to wait for them to settle for them when they get older?That's natural. Men of all ages have an instinctive attraction to fertile women. It's basically what beauty is. Think of beauty as an instinctive assessment of health and fitness for reproduction. That's what you are seeing and chemically reacting to when you see a beautiful young woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 02:57 AM |
| 0 | So if Women in the US go after the top percent of guys while they are young, do average guys need to wait for them to settle for them when they get older?I agree most people won't put in the effort. Historically speaking 40% of men never reproduce. As women have gained more choice that number is increasing. Most men won't compete to reproduce. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 02:55 AM |
| -2 | It's not that men want submissive women, we just want agreeable women.It's not that men want submissive women, we just want agreeable women. Is this an RP question or a BP question? The RP answer is that women are just built to be concerned about where things are heading. In some women this can manifest as a sort of bottomless pit of unhappiness. Stay away from those women, but even your average woman is just going to be asking 'Is this it?', 'Did I make the right choice?', 'Should I have gone with that other guy?' type of questions. It's just something RP believe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 12:36 AM |
| 5 | So if Women in the US go after the top percent of guys while they are young, do average guys need to wait for them to settle for them when they get older?No, the average guy works on himself to have desirable traits then ignores the women his age and dates younger more attractive women. You don't wait for and settle for the women your age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 12:05 AM |
| 2 | The great "checklist" bait-and-switch (why most dating advice is useless)I think that's why RP pushes improvements in many areas, physically, socially, career wise. Once you understand what women respond to then you can go about building yourself up in those areas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/24 12:03 AM |
| 2 | Do most men want to boycott older women, or are younger women just more available?I mean I think women exit the romantic market much earlier than men. Many shutting down the shop in their 40s. Certainly not all, but a lot of women set such unrealistic standards for men, standards that far exceed what they can attract that they just accept 'I'm not settling'. Call them femcells if you want, they are just undateable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/24 09:15 PM |
| – | Why are "traditional / red pill" anglo-westerners obsessed with pushing a hyper-masculine characture of men (the roided out lumberjack or gymbro) as the only way all men should be allowed to appear or act, and the only kind of man that can attract women?I think this is your perception. I've never seen RP policing anyone. It mostly just gives the life advice 'Work on being the best version of yourself'. With fitness being one of those things. If you think RP would look down on a swimmers body, or a triathlete, I think you've misunderstood what being in shape is all about. I don't even personally think a bodybuilder is even the most ideal asthetic, but the truth is, for the average person doing any kind of exercise is a fine way to improve appear… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/24 05:20 PM |
| 3 | People that play games, why? Be honest.It's a sad lesson when you realize that mostly people aren't playing games, they simply just don't care that much. It's pretty common for younger women to have many men in their orbit and they usually only pay attention to the most appealing option they have the attention of in that moment. Then when that option ignores them they move down their list to the next guy. This lands as them being interested, then disappearing, then reappearing, then saying they want to hang out, then being unreachabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/24 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Why is there this obsession in the manosphere with wanting to ‘replace women’?That is accurate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/24 01:08 AM |
| 0 | As much blame as women get for the current situation, a big part of the problem is the desperation of men. I regularly see dudes calling the most average or even below average women “hot” or “beautiful.”There's no question women are the way they are because men reward it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/24 01:07 PM |
| 0 | The frequent claim that lesbians commit the most DV is a lieI think a whole lot of these kids claiming to be trans because it's trendy are going to realize that they are straight in a few years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/24 04:09 AM |
| 4 | Why is there this obsession in the manosphere with wanting to ‘replace women’?I think it comes from a similar place as feminists stating there's enough frozen sperm that we no longer need men. It's sort of the ultimate 'I'm giving up trying to negotiate with you'. I mean porn has largely substituted relationships for many men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/24 04:05 AM |
| 0 | Modern Feminism is a giant shit testhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Believe_women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 03:40 AM |
| 0 | Modern Feminism is a giant shit testI think like a lot of things it starts of with a strong resonating message that many people can get behind. Then the people who like to look down on others or who like to tell others how to live show up and start to use it for their own agenda. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 03:40 AM |
| 2 | Can refusing sex be a valid reason for breakup or divorce?I think in that situation that would be fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 03:37 AM |
| -2 | Modern Feminism is a giant shit testIt spawned the 'believe all women' movement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 03:34 AM |
| 8 | Modern Feminism is a giant shit testI suppose that's better than alternative with it being a one sided open relationship without the dude knowing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 03:32 AM |
| 1 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.Because women who use that term are all most cosmically guaranteed to be bad partners using it as a tool to avoid accepting blame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 01:18 AM |
| 1 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.I'm not, I'm attacking women who wield bangmade as projection of their own failings on to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 01:06 AM |
| – | Women's attraction based on career and income is weird.It's not important to critique what women want, it's more important to understand what women want and to cultivate those authentic attributes that you possess that can be developed into the type of things women want. Or more specifically the type of things that the women that you want, happen to want from men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.so you're saying all instances of someone describing someone's actions is immoral? So I'm saying I know 1,000s of men. I've never met a man that said 'You know all I really need is a woman who I can bang whoever I want who cleans up the place'. Seriously, it's a strawman complaint. It's like saying women want to date an ATM. some men want this, some men want bangmaids. And if they did, why would women choose these men? How does it reflect on these women if they meet a guy and he literally is lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 12:48 AM |
| – | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.Because it's taking a woman's entitled feelings and projecting the cause of those feelings on the man. Men don't talk about bang maids. Men don't want bang maids. Men want partners, best friends, and the love of their life. Women who use terms like bang maids are using it as a shaming tactic to imply that their failures to show up with even bare minimum relationship effort reflects poorly on the man. I mean think how little women bring to relationships in general, and now lower the bar even furt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 12:33 AM |
| 1 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.I think your entitlement is showing. You aren't entitled to the income of a partner you left. The household income decreasing is sort of an obvious consequence. The parting gifts women often receive are part of a home that predated the relationship but the man put her name on the title to demonstrate his commitment to the relationship, as well as other assets he created before meeting her. Suddenly those get split in half because the man was a stand up guy who wanted there to be no question in h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 12:26 AM |
| 1 | Can refusing sex be a valid reason for breakup or divorce?I agree, but I'll just say for my generation, with blue pill teachings, men were taught to go all in and add their spouses names to the title of their home, cars. Anything less than this was shamed as him being toxic and controlling. A friend of mine bought his home, then got married and did what I described, added his wife to title as a sign that he was in for the long haul. She had an affair and divorced him in less than two years, then held the house over his head to make him sign a quit clai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 12:22 AM |
| 1 | Can refusing sex be a valid reason for breakup or divorce?They're even an award for being a bad partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 12:16 AM |
| – | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.lol, okay, well then is telling a man he wants a bang maid immoral? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 12:08 AM |
| – | Let’s talk about financial abuse.Female arousal is complicated. Women use their sexual attrativeness to secure a mate. The problem with modern day marriage is that the contract is so one sided women lose any risk of loss from divorce. There's no pressure to keep their man and, at least, that component of their arousal is missing. If other components of their arousal are also missing then it's a dead bedroom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/24 12:06 AM |
| 3 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.“ After divorce, women experience disproportionate declines in household income” Obviously a two income home is going to see a decline in household income with an income earner leaving. That isn't even a remotely surprising outcome. You're making it seem like a woman leaving a marriage shouldn't expect any household income drop despite the husbands income no longer being present. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/24 04:44 AM |
| 2 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.Women leave marriages because family law lavishes them with financial incentives to do so. If men had those incentives they would leave too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/24 02:22 AM |
| 28 | Can refusing sex be a valid reason for breakup or divorce?Of course it is. When sexual needs are being met sex is maybe 30% of a good relationship. When sexual needs are ignored it's 90% of the problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/24 02:21 AM |
| -3 | Can refusing sex be a valid reason for breakup or divorce?But our family courts system still believes people are owed parting gifts from a relationship that they didn't bring in with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/24 02:20 AM |
| 1 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.Um no. I said that women use the term bangmaid to denegrate the idea of expectations of having sex with their husbands and doing housework. I didn't say it's perfectly acceptable for men to want that. I said no man is saying they want that. Most men are romantic and want to marry a best friend of a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/24 12:47 AM |
| 1 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.In the majority of cases men aren't the problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.because she doesn't want you to treat her like garbage. When did I say anything about treating anyone like garbage. Those are your words. Men don't request bangmaids. bangmaid is a derrogatory term women use to complain about husbands who want sex and want them to contribute to the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 11:48 PM |
| 0 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.Well he can't leave due to family law handcuffing him and not the wife. But if he did leave, it more than likely would be for a better option. A girlfriend interested in him and who also contributed to the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 09:51 PM |
| 0 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.I guaranfuckingtee she wants it from a competent, independent man. In that case I feel even more sorry for her husband. She blames him, describes him as only wanting a bang maid and she's off with some independent man while the husband toils away for the family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.So find those men and lecture them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 09:23 PM |
| -1 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.imagine thinking a woman doesn't want sex because she doesn't want you to treat her like garbage. I guess I have to, because no one said that. I literally have to imagine it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 09:22 PM |
| -4 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.There isn’t always a blatant conversation That's because men aren't saying this. The term is a term women came up with to describe how they feel. We want more from life we don't want to be bangmaids. No man is saying he wants a bangmaid of his very own. It's a term women made up to insult the idea of being a SAHW. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 07:38 PM |
| 0 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.I would but I live in the real world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 07:35 PM |
| 0 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.You should find an example from some forum somewhere and share it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 07:34 PM |
| 3 | Double standard for husbands vs wives wanting out of marriages?It's really not all that complicated when you understand gendered morality. If we are talking about a woman she is always right, always the victim and whatever she wants to do she should do. If we are talking about a man, he's probably lying, he needs to tough it out or get therapy, it's probably his fault. Once you understand who is right and who is the man it's easy to see how to answer questions like this and many others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 07:33 PM |
| – | Women defend each other's behaviour online and when talking to men, but in reality they don't seem to like each other, generally speaking.Women like to say they are the prize, but in reality women are the fisherman trying to land the best man they can. So ultimately women are competing over the best men and that's why they are always giving such horrible advice to each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 04:52 PM |
| -7 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.All he cares about is his sexual fulfillment and that his woman waits on him hand and foot. And what percentage of men in the last 50 years have experienced anything remotely close to this? Are you going to sit there with a straight face and pretend women wait on their husbands hand and foot? Most men are hoping to have a wife who is positive and contributes to an enjoyable relationship and most men are dissapointed. A man who wants a bangmaid doesn’t want love he wants a random woman to fulfill… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 04:45 PM |
| -3 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.I think it's true that men expect if they are going to be monogamous that they will in fact have a willing sexual partner and I think it's true that if a woman doesn't work there will be an expectation she contribute to the relationship in some form, but I hardly think that is ALL men are looking for. Maybe some weirdo, but most men want a best friend in their partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 04:20 PM |
| -6 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.Don't forget they don't want any emotional labor either. So it's no sex, no tangible contributions and no emotional effort. If you want any of those you are asking for apparently a slave of some sort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 04:11 PM |
| -10 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.Sounds like a made up boogey man. Men are the real romantics in relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 04:06 PM |
| -15 | Bangmaid is a loaded term that adds nothing to the discussion about relationships.When someone talks about not wanting to be a bangmaid you've learned two things. One she has no interest in sex with you and two she has no interest in being expected to contribute in a tangible way to the relationship. Just like over half of men aren't datable, if we are being honest over half of women aren't relationship material. A woman talking about not wanting to be a bangmaid isn't relationship material. Find a woman who values intimacy and who takes pride in being an equal contributer in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 04:05 PM |
| -1 | There's absolutely zero logical reason why child support is still a mandatory thingI think a lot of single mother situations stem from two situations. A woman is dating a loser and everyone tells her he's a loser, and she decides to get pregnant which she believes will make him step up only to find that, just like everyone told her, he bails. A woman is dating a guy who won't commit to her, she is just so into him but so are other women, she gets pregnant to force his hand but the man accepts the kid but continues to reject the mother, the mother then does everything she can t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 01:12 PM |
| 1 | Why do Reddit mods ban you for making “offensive generalizations” that are well documented in science? Or reddit gets grumpy about this in general.For men this is a strange feeling, but this sort of thought policing (thot policing?) as how woman's groups suppress descent. They just label something undesirable or inconvenient to their view point as hateful and then ban it on those grounds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 01:07 PM |
| 1 | If Society “Doesn’t Hold Women Responsible”, What SHOULD Society Be Doing to Them?4% is the more conservative estimate, but I've seen studies that put it at 10%. The most interesting one was based off of cystic fibrosis cases, where both parents are tested for genetic markers (both parents have to have the gene for cystic fibrosis). That one showed 10% of the time that the father wasn't the biological parent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 01:00 PM |
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