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I mean, yeah but same still applies. That doesn't happen to me nor tons of other men which is why I said "our" Anywhere women go, women get attention because we want women. We give them attention, you call us simps for it because it makes attention that they get from "most men" meaningless. You say it's a problem and that we're apart of it but why should we care?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:33 AM
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That doesn't happen to me. You said in your post "This has made it so that the attention from most men means nothing to most women."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:26 AM
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Why should we care? The problem isn't our problem. You have to give women attention to get what you want and what a lot of us want is more important than the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:16 AM
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Then no, I don't actually believed that you'd be happy to be approached by anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:03 PM
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Has it happened and made you feel desirable before?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:03 PM
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There is no contradiction. A lot of men preaching for this would likely be approached by the women that they aren't attracted to so there would be no flattered feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:43 PM
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It's not better for everyone, most of you would be overwhelmingly approached by women that you're not attracted to so none of this They feels desired: the fact that a woman makes the first move can make him feel attractive and appreciated. It boosts their self-confidence: many men are used to having to take the initiative, so being chosen can be a rewarding experience. It takes the pressure off the pursuit: he doesn’t have to think about how to approach her, find the right moment, or fear reject…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:05 PM
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Any future man? Most people are well-adjusted and normal lol. Like my ex who told me I wasted her time married the next guy that she dated. So no, it's not a waste.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 12:13 AM
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Like between 25-35 when people date seriously and you're sort of in your endgame for marriage and starting a family a year without anything in the end can feel like a big waste. Not for me personally. Like at worst, gave something new a try, learned new things, got an opportunity to grow. I can be sad and mourn the loss but I would never look at love with someone as a waste. I mean, I get what you're saying, I don't disagree with what I've quoted above and everybody's entitled to their own thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 07:04 PM
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Dumbest shit ever imo. I've only ever heard it from one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:57 PM
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Being in a loving relationship for a year is not a “waste.” A lot of people see it that way though. To them, it's like no marriage is an automatic equivalent to failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:40 PM
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Oh then yeah, I've been in relationships where I didn't intend for it to lead to marriage but that's just a good indicator that it's time to break up. Started out in love, that wained, it ended. I don't think that's bad but I was told that I "wasted her time" or whatever but them's the breaks imo. That's what dating is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:32 PM
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No. I mean, I have plenty but only with mutual understanding and consent so there's never been an instant of someone thinking otherwise in my experience. It's so easy to be like "I'm not looking for a relationship" to give the other person agency on whether or not they want to fuck with you. But people move really dumb and have zero tact which is why we see so many of these years long situationships with nothing to show for it. Couldn't be me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:20 PM
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Today's dating woes stem from skill issues. Old people have great advice. They may not be up to game on "how it is" today but the reason a lot of young struggling people can't implement said advice is due to lack of skill. You have it far easier than the olden times with dating apps, social media, knowledge of how to interact with each other yet can't use any of that to your advantage? Skill issue. Not the old folks fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:55 PM
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It's not discriminatory for me to experience attraction, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:48 PM
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I think it depends. If she's so insufferable, insecure and hyped up on trust issues that no one wants to be around her then she's no different than a lot of struggling men. If she's just having a bad go i.e. capable of attracting but bad luck with bad options, then she likely is too good for those other men. Same for men having a bad go that don't have to settle for the single women that I referenced above.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:57 PM
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I don't find this to be true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:17 PM
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Then check out. Disillusioned men and insufferable women are both the same and should exit the dating pool since it’s all so bad. It’s won’t be a decline though. All of the compatible options will continue to find each others and dating will persist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:07 AM
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Yes they do. They don't know what other women want which is why their advice generally sucks. They know what it takes to pull themselves but they can't help you pull other women because they themselves wouldn't even know how to pull her. Same for men. I can't help my friends get into a relationship with a man because I myself don't know how to pull him. I can give her tips based on what works for me but I'm not that other guy so anything I'm telling them would just come off as bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:20 PM
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Really overdramatic take.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:58 PM
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Everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:24 PM
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It’s privilege. I can have extremely high standards (I do) and no one bats an eye. A woman can have the same standards and she’s given hell for it. It’s why I think it’s easier to empathize with them on these issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 09:45 PM
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I don't either but that's because a lot of those people aren't actually legally educated. I'm lucky enough to be so I trust my take over theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:56 PM
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Nothing. It's not in the best interest of the child to strip their father of custody or visitation over this. And the best interest of the child is often the deciding measure in family law cases. We also already live in an over-policed institutionalized society. So criminalization is also unnecessary imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:36 PM
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Disagree. Both men and women in this sense equally whine and complain about everything and are just generally insufferable. They’re the same imo. You may not see a whole lot of it on forums or online but I think you do from single women who are the same as men online in real life. I think a lot of people can relate to meeting/knowing/dating women who are also nonstop pity parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:47 AM
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I mean, it doesn’t. That’s why I’m asking you to expound on your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:49 AM
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Sure but it goes beyond looks. I think to deny that men put thought into vetting would be to deny that men are afraid of being screwed over and that’s just not true imo. What about my question though? Is your point here for all cases or is those where men mean themselves as the reasonable standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:09 AM
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In all cases or just those where they themself are the reasonable standard? Because if my cousin or friend tells me she doesn't care if a man has a job, I'm going to feel pretty empowered to judge them as unreasonable lol. Men, unfortunately, don't put thought into vetting even their own female partners. This isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:35 PM
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It's really not that interesting or unexpected. Being progressive/liberal/leftist doesn't automatically mean you're this morally perfect non-racist person. It's not shocking at all that someone like Planter could pull with a nazi tattoo because those women are just like him regardless of their political leanings. I'm on the left but I'm black and I don't trust a hell of whole lot of people on my side of the aisle like Planter. None of this is shocking nor proves anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:58 PM
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There's really no fix to the rampant self-pity. I knew someone who'd go out, drink, lose all inhibitions and still say shit like "she wants me to approach so that she can reject me." Lot of these dudes are just doomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:09 PM
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Why should I agree? I think the women abroad deserve better than what's left over from our pool of men who can't pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:15 PM
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There are people answering that they'd rather the ltr/marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:39 PM
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I mean it's not like they're making an objective claim otherwise. It's just a hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:08 PM
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Disagree. I think it's refusal to accept that other men match or meet those women where their at in terms of value. Women are generally considered to be more aligned, reserved, social, emotionally intelligent, well groomed, fashionable, and moral(in case anyone would tackle: this is for the 'general sense of morality accepted in society', which is different from 'absolute morality' from the start of this post) than the majority of men. Like I believe successful men are also this and frustrated m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:23 PM
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They're usually same but with this context I'm going for the woman who gives sex. Being in a relationship or marriage with so-so once a month sex sounds miserable. I also believe that the grass can be greener, so I'd essentially be in a relationship or marriage with infrequent subpar sex knowing that I could have better options outside which would lead me to pursuing that and eventually cheating. So I'd prefer to avoid all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:15 PM
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How are we supposed to answer for predators? Lol somebody would have to actually be a predator or pedophile to make sense of these questions for you. I can answer "they can't pull them" to answer why can't men be with adult women because that's my beleif but it doesn't necessarily answer the real question.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 09:43 PM
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I’d argue that just as many women are in happy beneficial situationships. We just see more of the complaining because those happy are less likely to brag about it as opposed to venting bad experiences which is more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:17 AM
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“But if a Women DOESNT like u, no amount off yapping will help.” Unless you’re really good at it. Plenty have been able to turn disinterest into interest off words. Not overrated imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:18 PM
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Lame. Turning dating apps into surveillance would be lame. We don’t need to know what our matches are talking to other people about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:09 PM
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The idea that people need to be held accountable is what makes this lame imo. I don’t want nor need to see a persons average reply time or how many questions they ask. And I’m not really interested in anyone who needs to see that stuff about me. It doesn’t or shouldn’t matter why I ghosted that person that I wasn’t interested in to the person that I’m interested in. Like I never replied to her but I replied to you so it really doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:01 PM
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I’m not sure what you’re asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:31 PM
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Yeah it does, that’s what “except for certain circumstances” means.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:18 PM
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May be an unpopular take but almost everyone has someone. Except for the most insufferable and accounting for certain circumstances, all of this is pretty normal imo. For men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:54 PM
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Yeah it is. Abortion benefits and is accessible healthcare for us too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:12 PM
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The point is accessibility, not reliability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:09 PM
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Because it also prevents unwanted fatherhood. Abortion is a huge factor for men, what are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:52 AM
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Effects of porn brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:09 PM
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May the odds be in your favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:28 AM
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Virgins suck dick too but by all means go for them if it’s just sex that gets you, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:27 AM
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“then go into a long detailed story about how much it sucked and how much that guy was a loser?” For what? What does hearing about how much that guy sucked do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:31 AM
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What they want to know. Who you’ve slept with, what you’ve done.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:22 AM
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Curiosity and distrust arises so they pry and pry and pry and pry and pry until you eventually tire and tell them. That’s when all hell breaks loose.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:31 AM
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I guess but I don’t think that takes away from my point that generally attention isn’t special to attractive people. They’re not going to stop anything in their lives suddenly because one person gives them so much of it as OP seems to be implying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:21 PM
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That type of midlife crisis isn’t exclusive to attractive people so I disagree there that it’s evidence of the opposite. Generally at the end of that day attention will be brushed off by them because it’s their norm and on the off chance they become unattractive or age bad, it’s only natural that new experiences will be difficult to manage. Also, you’re not really a micro celebrity when your norm persists. There’s no actual fame that resembles celebrity status from some woman shooting her shot. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:57 PM
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Hot people have gone their entire lives receiving attention. Even as teenagers. So I’m not convinced that external validation means as much or exists as often described in these context. DMs, follows, reactions, likes, and comments don’t mean shit when a majority of your life has been like this. It doesn’t even compare to internal validation where approve of yourself free of outside input. Good looking people are also not micro celebrities. Attractive people feel the same romantic excitement as …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:45 PM
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“There is no man who is risking losing out on a girl they really fancy over the 50-75 bucks” So true but dudes are also really dumb over this topic so maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:20 PM
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I’ve never known hookup culture to be the issue as much as I have the image or idea of the person you’re interested in having sex with other people. No one ever says it’s hookup culture ime. They always say that it’s the simple fact that the person had sex with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:42 PM
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Cmv: You may as well not date if you’re so scared of past sex. Whether it’s 1 or 100, the man or woman you like probably saw heaven before from amazing sex in their past and there’s really nothing that you can do about that. That other woman’s pussy or that other man’s dick had your crush feeling amazing. Do better than them or get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:16 PM
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What is the alternative though? To force who don’t to fit your wants/needs? It’s either find someone else or tough shit imo. Behavior and traits are not negotiable. Anyone who drops their entire lifestyle to keep someone else happy is a dummy and only going to end up unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:39 PM
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It’s not everyone though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:05 PM
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This is a real hot take but I disagree. I believe it’s an excuse because I can see why they do it. First, it’s harsh but that other person’s closure and need for explanations doesn’t really matter. Second, people’s inability to accept rejection is too much to carry. Your arguments here are an example of that. It’s better to ghost than put up with someone’s obsessiveness imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:40 PM
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Lol no. Some people just don’t want kids and people are always going to have an issue with that. Lately because of the morals they attach to having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:26 PM
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Lol isn’t this just culturally dependent?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:05 PM
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“A recurring thing I've seen is that women like it when a man can dominate another man, by making fun of him!” Does this happen anywhere outside of high school? Sounds like the Flash Thompson trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:25 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:57 PM
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Ok what about after?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:45 PM
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I don’t, helpfulness is not really what I’m shooting for when countering OP’s argument. I don’t get this take because why even talk about anything then? Like, of course we likely evaluate prudence differently. That would be part of the debate? But I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 07:10 PM
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Not really. Reasonableness is simply a standard defined by what an ordinary and prudent person would do in the exact same circumstance. It’s not defined in a way that only supports my argument, someone could easily make a counterargument for what it means to be reasonable in the exact same circumstance and have a valid point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:37 PM
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I’ve had that experience since I was a teenager. So in my formidable years and beyond, there’s never been a point where I’ve never not known what that experience is like. Which I think ultimately strengthens my points here. So inferring that I’ve never had hoes isn’t a real counterargument to weaken anything that I’m saying here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 06:20 PM
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This isn’t true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:59 PM
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Experienced what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:55 PM
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That’s what I mean by “most reasonable men” though. If they’re “I got mine.” then they’re left out of my point because they aren’t reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:31 PM
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You treat it better in terms of relatively, sure. But certainly not better than the next man solely because it’s not rare and scarce to him. I could be off but that seems to be the implication that you’re making.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:27 PM
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I think point 1 is a mischaracterization. I don’t agree with the premise that abundant attention and alternatives equates to less investment of time, effort, communication, and attentiveness because I don’t believe being sexually successful works that way. To me, the woman alone is sufficient incentive regardless of other options. If you want to fuck, you’re likely going to attempt to give her your best, most reasonable men want to leave a good impression that way. If you don’t care, then you li…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:41 PM
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It’s not really my way of getting to know someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:20 PM
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That’s actually a really good question. It’d catch me off guard because no one has ever asked that so I’d have to think because I don’t want to be cliche. Like obviously of the women in my family, my mom, my sister and other relatives, plus women friends also. A bunch of my colleagues and associates. Historically, Harriet, Coretta Scott and Betty, they both dealt with a lot. Michelle Obama and all the rest. Other general figures right now, A’ja Wilson, Meg, AOC, Ilhan Omar, Angel Reese, Serena. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:37 PM
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Your beliefs aren’t the standard of what self respect is though. No one’s actually a simp for paying for women. And it’s also ok to value getting laid above what you’re preaching here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:00 PM
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Counterpoint, being a simp is better than whatever you’re selling. Sex > your beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:18 PM
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“Where was the attention before I was pretty?” I mean, I’m not going to go through life mad over things that happened when I was a teenager. I think almost everyone experiences a glow up in some form or fashion. We were all teens before, we’ve all experienced rampant rejection. Even as an adult, I’d bet I get rejected waaaaay more now than I did back then simply because I avail myself more now. It’s no one else’s problem though. I’m not going to take it out on anyone. I don’t understand this typ…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:36 PM
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Great ask. I think it’s subjective. My own personal beliefs though, morals don’t make the man. Good men to me is what I see in men in my family and that I’m friends with. They have attributes for good character but that doesn’t necessarily make them morally good because they’re susceptible to doing heinous shit. Not pointing fingers, I think most of are, so myself included there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:40 PM
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Preaching. I agree with this takeaway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:33 PM
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I mean, I can see why. The guy who gets the girl is often labeled as an asshole simply for breathing by people who argue that women only have sex with bad guys. So almost anything that a guy does is going to make him bad if you believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:31 PM
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The first sentence in my post establishes that imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:29 PM
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I don’t disagree, criminals get theirs but are not more successful. I do think that’s pretty easy to say. And yeah, nobody’s going to shoot 100% from the field. A woman can filter for good, thinks she’s found it and attracted to it and be wrong no different than a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:28 PM
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Oh, true. I agree with that. Those men usually are labeled as bad though and I disagree, I think often times they’re good people who’s good vs bad is judged disproportionately.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:25 PM
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On point as usual. There is more to relationships than just sex. I don’t disagree with that. But I’m not making the argument that the rest of your house looking like dog shit does not matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:23 PM
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I'll walk you through it. You understand you are making your arguing in the body of your post that you think women find good men sexually attractive because the bar for being bad is low. No. I do not believe that women find good men sexually attractive because the bar for being bad is low. I believe that men who often get described as bad can be good. We all know the argument that women are not sexually attracted to good men persist. I'm under the impression that the men they are sexually attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:42 AM
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I mean, I said it was a bit facetious for a reason. That's not a real measure of what I believe to be good and morality isn't the measure, in response to your above edit. Good is going to look different. But I don't think I need to make that point to strengthen it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:20 AM
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Of course you don’t explain that, you’re not it. There is no we as in women in general argument to counter my beliefs here. And that’s also a blatant misconstruction of my argument. If I really believed “because no one can actually define what good or bad traits are" why would I argue the point "but there’s no real measure of what that actually means outside of objectively heinous shit."? Granted I could of threw subjective in there too but any reasonable person with a real point to make outside…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:54 AM
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I agree with you. I disagree with how you might interpret arrogant though. That’s not false, I just that think a lot of y’all just paint men as bad things for the most trivial shit lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:12 AM
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I don’t have that problem. My title is the premise for the argument that my beliefs are based on. It sets the topic but it does not make the argument. Even being generous to the idea that titles make the argument, it stresses the importance of reading beyond the title regardless whether you disagree or agree because what matters is in the body and replies. And I could very well possibly be struggling to understand your point but I’m not sure what you’re arguing. Like yeah, they can be separate f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:10 AM
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I disagree. There’s no real “we” here. There’s a you, which yeah, you don’t find that attractive and you share that with countless other women, I’d be crazy to disagree, it conflict with my own life experience. But my beliefs aren’t changed nor are my arguments for them dissuade to essentially what’s “you’re wrong because I’m this way.” Like yeah, you’re right, good and bad character will influence your decisions. But am I supposed to believe that women don’t find good men sexually appealing bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:02 AM
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Where? I’ve never known it to be the case that criminals are more successful with women. People who come home from extended stays prison realistically kind of struggle in a lot of different facets of life. Unfortunately too but I find it hard to believe that criminals are more successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:53 AM
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No it does not. For that to be the case I’d have to be arguing that that all women are sexually attracted to good men. My beliefs aren’t based on whether being good or bad makes you sexually attractive, I believe that women are having sex with good men or find good men sexually appealing because I disagree with everyone’s interpretation of bad men in these contexts. Being good is not sexually attractive by default. I concede that in the very first sentence of my post. You could argue from there …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:49 AM
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I think it does. They like all of those things including good character. Because you can be competent and flirting and seduction, sociable, and exciting but still face rejection for bad character. You’re less likely to get rejected with good character in that same instance though imo and that’s why I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:30 AM
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What is a high LMS man? Also same for good men in fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:11 AM
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Our society is genuinely so soft. “Nuclear family month” lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:07 AM
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There is no brotherhood for sure. A lot of men approach these topics like there is a “we” when there’s not. Which is why a lot seem to struggle with disagreement, you’re a “simp” if you make a case against a manosphere talking point. Among friends though, totally different. There is a brotherhood and like-mindedness there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:40 PM
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Just my personal hot take but I think any person struggles with feelings of sexual inadequacy if another person’s past matters to them so much. For men I believe that it’s fear she’s had bigger (which they perceive to mean better) and for women fear that he’s had more attractive (which they also seem to perceive to mean better).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:11 AM
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Eh, agree to disagree then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:44 PM
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The Sopranos and The Wire being 2 hbo shows that are extremely sexual that I know for fact men also consume lol. It’s just women though I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:43 PM
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Happens a lot in kids media imo. Cat in the Hat movie immediately comes to mind. Boils down to parent responsibility for what their kids watch in those cases though I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:40 PM
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Isn’t the media we all consume always sexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:09 PM
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More like giving a young kid lessons on how to be soft and insecure. Which has unfortunately become the norm to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:08 PM
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Imagine doing somethings so mundane for a woman and someone calling themselves giving you a “lecture” over it lol. If y’all don’t get on with this lame shit. It’s nothing to hold the door or make way for a woman. Y’all are at war with your own egos. Nobody else is fighting your battles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:00 PM
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Yes, if I’m in love with her. Probably not if I’m not in love with her because kids are a lot and I enjoy my life and freedom without them right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:58 PM
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Oh, well yeah I can’t think of one time where I’ve split the bill on the first date and had sex or a second date later. Think it’s just dependent on your types and what you pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:47 PM
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Not sure what you’re saying. Our experiences seem the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:23 PM
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Yup, no harm no foul.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:40 PM
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For me, I know we aren't having sex or more dates if she offers to pay her half. I mean, I've paid and have still been rejected so it's not that paying means automatic sex or more dates but I really know that it's not happening if she pays her half lol. Which is no big deal, rejection is whatever, It's just an easy way for me to read the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 08:47 PM
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Fair but it's a hell of a whole lot easier said that done. Ego death is an amazing thing but I don't know how you get there without psychedelics lol. It likely requires a ton of commitment and self work. But even then when you get there, what's next? How does ego death contribute better dating? I don't think ego death automatically equates recognizing that women are givers of life or deserve to be protected. It could lead to droves of more men becoming content and checking out. No ego, nothing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:28 PM
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Disagree, we're all a lot more alike and experience the same experiences. A lot of us have all been through the same shit. Bad options, risks of danger, liars, ghosts, rejections, cheaters, its all the same whether man or woman. I think people struggle to empathize because everything is competition. A woman can say "I've been cheated on." and dudes will reply "Women cheat way more!" Instead of recognizing the similarities they share in being cheated on, it becomes a game of one upmanship where s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:19 PM
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I agree and disagree. When people say that it's a negative or that men and women can't be friends, I wonder whether they have any relatives that they're close with like sisters or cousins. On the flip side, it can be a negative because so many people's identity revolves around preventing cheating. Having too many woman friends can be seen as a red flag and cause for miserable attachments from insecure people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:17 PM
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I've never known that to be the case. Maybe I'm oblivious, could be cultural differences but relationships involving more money is what people strive for where I'm from. But again, I don't think more money necessarily equates to being financially provided for. I got friends with husbands who don't make that much who still provide for their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:48 PM
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No stigma, just not for me. I'm susceptible to resentment when contribution is so unequal like 90/10. I'm also not attracted to people who don't do anything professionally. My criticism is directed towards men who choose to provide too. They seek it out then cry all day about how they hate their wives, like yeah lol, I would too but I'm not dumb enough to isolate someone into sole dependence on me. I work hard but not that hard. Like the wealthier people aren’t capable of genuine relationships. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:56 PM
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You have a weak argument with no grasp of the topic then if that's truly the case. Like do you really understand things like politics and political views enough to make your argument with such simplistic analysis and zero depth? No imo. Because your points here basically boils down that the right and left are the same because both include mean people and that just doesn't capture the reality of our political landscape at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:39 PM
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Which still does not make them the same. Two people with competing views aren't the same simply because they act the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:06 PM
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Not really, drastic dissimilarities still differentiate the right from the left that aren't solely dependent on this idea that the left is supposed to be perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:11 PM
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No they can't because that would just make them conservatives. Leftist/progressive spaces are similar in terms of flawed views and behaviors though. You're not suddenly the best person ever simply because you're progressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:55 PM
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Maybe you mean performative social acceptance? I don't know what this has to do with being progressive which is simply belief in reform rather than preserving traditionalism. Leftist spaces aren't some utopia of perfect people. They're filled with some of the worst people, regardless whether we think and believe the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:42 PM
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Why would it be outrageous? Thought it was normal to describe our types like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 07:45 PM
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It’s split and you’re never going to convince proponents of it to switch beliefs so may as well just live accordingly. Women who want providers will let you know. Your responsibility is to reject. No harm no foul.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:07 PM
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I’m not an asshole even I know when I’m objectifying lol. Why are a lot of y’all so scared to look in the mirror?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:18 PM
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Yeah but that’s exactly what I’m saying. Talk to women on my team in a way that makes them cry but completely change of character when speaking to me. Mansplain to her but won’t mansplain to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:12 PM
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I call bullshit lol. One of the most glaring things I always notice is that men do not speak to me the same way they do women. It’s one of the most easily observable privileges in the professional workplace imo. Also knowing that men would be too intimidated to explain basketball to Michael Jordan. Lack of tact is not male communication imo, at all. If anything, it’s evidence that better communication skills are needed. And last time I saw a man lack tact and tell another that his mindset was hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:02 PM
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True but everybody’s so fake nonchalant nowadays thinking that it means being cold and distant rather than being calm and laidback.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:06 PM
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Very true, disagree with the whole “If you find yourself doing any of that with a woman you just met, she’s just not into you.” though. It’s fine to show women a good time. Personally, I think you should make the women that you’re fucking with feel good. Showing someone a nice time doesn’t mean that they don’t like you or that you’re doing those things to get her to like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:05 PM
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Could be based on misconception imo. For her and the other guy, sex in the car or pool house happened in a total different context than being in a relationship and asking her to do those things because the boyfriend never has. I think there’s a difference between sex like that happening by chance and sex in a relationship where you’re expressing things that you want to do rather than them also happening by chance. I don’t mean that with a negative connotation towards the boyfriend either, I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:42 AM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:56 PM
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Absolutely is true. Women have never not had options in modern times. Same with top men who have never been hampered by being forced into monogamy. Men would be forced to marry a girl by their church for premarital sex, forced into monogamy, then go on to have countless extramarital affairs. And no one in the clubs every weekend ever says that. Clubs dying is wishful thinking and countless men out there still don’t things for women that you think they aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:26 PM
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Do y’all really think there was ever a period during modern times in America where women didn’t have unlimited gauntlet of options? Everybody romanticizes the 50s, women still had tons of options back then. Multiple dudes competing to take the same girl to the dance or whatever they did back then. Nothing’s changed. The whole idea that men are suddenly nonchalant and not putting in ever isn’t true. Clubs aren’t dead and the era of long songs aren’t over. All that’s happening is that some men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:32 PM
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Women won’t do certain things for a man who doesn’t turn her on that way. Attraction contributes but it’s not the sole deciding factor. The previous guy got the bells and whistles every time because he ate her out every time and she likes that. Boyfriend, who she’s more physically attracted to, thinks eating pussy is gross and doesn’t do it even though she likes it so she doesn’t fuck him like that. So no women aren’t being coerced into giving their best, their having better sex which results in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:12 AM
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Definitely. I know a someone who’s terrified of sitting in the chair the wrong way. He’s probably the most insecure person that I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:56 PM
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Men who are so scared of women that they can’t even sit in a chair without overthinking or over-analyzing are not the best options of men. They aren’t decent. They aren’t even all that sensitive. They’re nothing but scared of women. It’s delusional to argue that these guys are the best options for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:51 PM
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Q4M: how important is fashion to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:13 PM
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Nah lol. Thats not the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:54 PM
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That’s still compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:34 PM
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That’s why compatibility is extremely important.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:18 PM
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No, not at all. If you have to force your girl home so that she won’t cheat, what type of relationship is that anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:18 PM
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This isn’t a truth bomb. It’s common knowledge that men love and adore women. You can’t blame your problems on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:21 PM
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Still don’t think that women’s selection gets treated like it’s beyond criticism though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:31 AM
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Women’s selection is overwhelmingly criticized imo. It’s the popular position to do so, especially in online spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:24 PM
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The “male filtering system” is not a real thing as described here. We’re also just as influenced by other men as women are women but I see these types of arguments on here a lot to paint women as the only followers. I’d bet that this argument was probably influenced by other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:08 PM
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Lots of women have good options though. Still dating, still marrying, having children if they want that, and having sex, all with good dudes who they genuinely like and enjoy. If one feels that they have little to gain, then I don’t know how the “then don’t date” response could be any different than if they were a man complaining about the same stuff. Neither side is enjoying or feels like they’re gaining anything among others who are, so may as well just not date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:46 PM
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I’m answering the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:03 AM
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Primary custody because I can afford it here better than her. Which means I’m likely paying her alimony, so wouldn’t want her paying child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:41 PM
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I mean, yeah. Reality trumps your idea of what it means to matter. Essential jobs are important. Essential workers survive just fine. Suggesting that people pursue crypto, influencing, and of managing in order to achieve your version of success is bad advice. It seems regurgitated from red pill influencers in cheap suits surrounded by women that they pay to be there imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:10 PM
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These aren’t the views of someone who’s actually aware of anything lol. Construction workers probably pull more than you and me. The credibility on your argument is shot. Your views seemed shaped by something other than yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:02 PM
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Who’s views and beliefs are these? Essential workers lead good social lives. You don’t think the average custodian or construction worker gets respect or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:53 PM
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Essential jobs literally pull people from homelessness lmao. What do you mean they don’t improve shit about your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:43 PM
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Those jobs are “low value” but somehow simultaneously run society? There’s nothing wrong with essential work. Any shaming for them is objectively wrong to any reasonable person. Suggesting lanes like crypto, influencer, and OF manager makes me believe that a lot of y’all are really influenced by what they sell you on social media. If you truly believe your argument, why not suggest actual sustainable careers that seem to persist in hard economic times like the present such as legal, medical, STE…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:38 PM
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Yeah. The “assholes” aren’t really assholes. They’re just not doormats and have self confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 02:53 PM
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I find it easy to tell for me. One instance, “yourself” for me is openly political. Not myself is when I’m consciously suppressing that which I notice I do when I’m not being myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:35 PM
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I have a relative like that. I think he should be himself so that women stay far away from him. Effective imo, accountability for him, protection for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 07:31 PM
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Depends on how flawed lol. I’m thinking a range of “yourself” being from like incompatible opinions to being one of the worst people alive. So I mean, true, I agree to extent but it depends without knowing how flawed we’re talking. If it’s minor in compared to being just completely unlikable, you can avoid horrible people or hating yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:36 AM
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Yeah, I mistook the context as optimizing behavior because I do that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:31 AM
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That’s true, the tv trope of a main character getting a new suit is real. I looked at that the wrong way mistaking social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:29 AM
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Differences probably look different for everybody. For me, it’s a noticeable difference in my behavior. I agree that the hope is the same, that she likes you, but situations where I’m not being myself pale in comparison to the peace I find following the “be yourself” advice. I find it tough to follow honestly, so I wind up in a lot of stupid stuff that noticeably not as good when I’m being myself. So the material difference is in behavior that impacts outcomes, at least for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:20 AM
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Learning social skills and optimizing your appearance? For sure Doing so to open more doors possible? A little too dicey for my taste. And sure, probably does apply to neurodivergent folks. I genuinely don’t know though so just being clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:24 AM
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I mean, there’s no universal objectivity that they don’t tell us that but also I feel like you just kind of know when they find you unattractive. If someone’s not into me, I know it’s 99.9% likely that they found me unattractive. I recently had someone say that I was “too nice” for her friend. She may not have said it outright but that was her telling me that she thought I was unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:47 PM
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The men y’all call assholes here aren’t assholes. In fact, I’d argue that a lot of y’all are the assholes far more than the sweet talkers and players. Those dudes aren’t finessing or manipulating. They’re navigating as their natural selves and doing so attracts women. An asshole navigates as something he’s really not in order to manipulate outcomes and use to their advantage. The sweet talkers and players aren’t doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:05 PM
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Shit, I do lol. Y’all have fun going your own way though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:19 PM
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Idk, ask pua who it’s works for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:38 PM
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That would make her the woman version of op
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 05:19 AM
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An insanely strong emotional connection. Can’t even explain it honestly but I feel like you know when you’re in it. Like one where you know it’ll actually break your heart if they suddenly left your life or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:07 AM
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That doesn’t really refute anything though. There are probably women into it but women who aren’t are still the only ones getting the short end of the stick. Men who like makeup, men who don’t, and women into pua are the only ones not getting fooled while women who aren’t into pua are in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 10:49 PM
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Makeup isn’t manipulation. I’m into that shit. Men like me can’t be fooled into attraction because we already want to be there and men who don’t like it can’t be fooled into attraction because they already don’t want to be there. Unlike pua where women who don’t want sex with someone can be fooled into sex with that person even though she doesn’t want to be there. Huge difference imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 10:36 PM
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I find it extremely easy honestly. We all go through the same shit which makes it easy to empathize. Everybody’s so caught up in competition to say they have it worse but it’s really all the same. For example, I can empathize with a woman who hurts over being ghosted because I’ve been there. Even though it may not hurt me as much, I know how she feels because we’ve experienced the same shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 07:12 PM
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Access to birth control benefits me, my life would have been ruined if I had a kid before ready. I also think no fault divorce is an amazing thing because it doesn’t require proof of wrongdoing. Not being radicalized is not costing me like you claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 03:58 PM
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I mean, yeah. People are allowed to disagree with you lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 01:58 PM
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Meg will never find another Klay This just isn't true. The NBA is my world, so I get it, all these dudes are larger than life untouchable millionaires. But this is like saying Serena would never find another Drake. She went on to marry a billionaire. Like come on lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:34 AM
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Yeah, absolutely. I'm just spitballing because I don't know what these people are like for real but she could absolutely find another hot millionaire to commit to her, that's her social circle. I mean, even Michael Jordan and LeBron both have outward facing "happy" marriages. Stay around big cities long enough and you'll hear shit about LeBron but that doesn't mean he's not committed. Him and his wife likely have an understanding but he's still committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:30 AM
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Yeah, I'm aware that you're not claiming that it's objective, I'm just agreeing with you. I don't agree with this point though, I believe in self improvement as I've committed to it myself. I don't have a healthy indifference towards women though. I'm unbothered by rejection but I can't act like I'm indifferent to them as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 02:26 AM
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what you've got left are women who don't want to be in an LTR, have already been in an LTR and likely already have children, or have been passed up by everyone else I don't think this is true. Maybe in small towns or something? I don't know but I don't believe this to be the case. It feels no different than from your 20s imo where these same factors existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:44 PM
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I don't think that's objectively true. I think it can be the case because it's the way that I think attraction works, there are women who prefer finished products and guys who just get it but I disagree that its objectively fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:16 PM
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I had to debate in favor of things that I didn't agree with or thought was dumb all the time when I learned. So yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:44 PM
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Is there real criticism? I wanted to sleep with a bunch when I was younger and never felt that doing so was trashy. I don't see why or how self improvement could be bad regardless of what its for. Sex, life, work, who cares, you're improving.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:35 PM
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I mean, you can also prevent him from doing that. That's what I was taught debate is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:30 PM
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I think Lilith is honestly the best debater on this sub simply because they know how to actually defend and counter-argue regardless of how wild their conclusions are or whether I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 04:32 PM
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I'm sorry but ppd acts so stupid over everything nowadays. Unrealistic expectations are objectively a real thing, I've had friends who believe that plethoras of top tier women will be willing to have no strings attached sex with them for nothing if they just reached a certain threshold of success like making more money or getting their lives together. Argue that here and all you see is "that's not happening." "strawman", etc. No real rebuttals, just straight up denials. Makes you genuinely wonde…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 03:54 PM
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They're not overrating themselves if they can afford to do that then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 03:33 PM
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I think they're pretty aware of their true standing. Outside of gender war debates on the internet, women are still heavily beloved and sought after by good prospects of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 04:19 PM
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I question whether blue pill is actually even a thing and not just meant to meant opposite of the red pill for the sake of the sub. I think it's considered to be the most virtuous though because that's how they see themselves, which I think is just a product of reddit. Everybody's virtuous, moral, and perfect. And since people on this sub don't really know how to debate, we see a lot of this here. "I don't understand your problems because I don't have them and never had so it's your personality"…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 11:20 PM
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I agree but I wouldn’t do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:30 AM
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I don’t think so, it’s not an optimistic “anyone can do it.” take and I think it can erase that dynamic of trying to be chosen. That kind of goes into volume and frequency though and I’ll admit this stuff does look different for every man. I do think competence cancels their selectiveness. These are just my personal beliefs though, I’m not arguing objective fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:29 AM
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Ok logic man, it's below your pay grade then. You been the expert, you got it. Not me though, it took some time to figure out why I disagreed with the argument that women gate keep sex. Guess I should've read your book or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:55 AM
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I disagree on the final say so. I'll relent my argument here is a bit weaker because it excludes looks as a factor, but I don't believe women solely have the finale say so. I believe its mutual. I do think competence overrides the market. It's honestly a tough game and it's dynamic and always changing because you're always changing. That's where strengths and weaknesses come in. For me, my needs were changing faster than I was without me knowing so I couldn't figure out why I didn't agree that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:43 AM
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A lot of y'all really don't know shit about debate. You just cry here. They're not morons. I make that clear in my first sentence. But I forgot we're all on teams here or something so you can't ever relent to opposite talking points.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:12 AM
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Get over yourself, good lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:03 AM
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Cardinal sin of thinking the other side is capable of making good points. Apologies professor lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:03 AM
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Online and in real life I hear the debate women gatekeep sex. I didn't believe it but I didn't have a good counter argument for why. I guess I'm speaking more so to real life, online is extreme with frustration but in real life it's more conversation less online crying. And in real life, I didn't have a good argument based on my own shit, not in a blaming sense but in a complacent/know it all way that wasn't lining up with my needs. So not blaming anyone but more like damn, I can be smarter abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:59 AM
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Aw man, one of those lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:37 AM
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I relate to this a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:36 AM
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I don't know the step by step for you, I don't even know it for myself. I knew it in the past, I've gotten older though and shit has changed so life and needs look different. So I think it takes some figuring out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:34 AM
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Then it's not any man. It's literally myself, this post applies to me lmao. I'm not talking about autistic people because I'm not autistic. This post applies to me, I've never had a good counter argument against the idea that women gatekeep sex. I'm debating on behalf of myself for finally figuring it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:26 AM
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I believe so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:17 AM
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Y'all got it lmao. Dare get stumped by the red pill guys I guess. They had a good argument in that women gatekeep sex. Didn't have a counter for a long time evidenced by my own life, hence my emphasis on weaknesses in the post. Apparently y'all all did.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:16 AM
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I don't think its vague. People are responding to this post as if it's common sense, guess it was to y'all but I've never had a good counter to that point. Glad it's duh to y'all but shit we learn every day. My bad for wanting to argue it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:59 AM
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I think it does to a degree. For me at least, I don’t know how to attract what I need. But I can’t say it’d be guaranteed if I ever got there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:34 AM
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You’re taking it there for no reason. It’s a debate sub, I’m arguing a topic. I mean, is it good? I’d hope so, it’s something I wanted to bring to a debate sub. Arguments against can’t be made? It’s just reddit, we can’t talk here? My bad lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:18 AM
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Not really, I’m just talking shit based on what I’ve seen. I’ll admit it’s probably pretentious but it’s just ppd on reddit, we not fighting seriously lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:03 AM
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It plays a major role.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:54 AM
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What I’m arguing is without consideration for that so doesn’t apply to people with autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:48 AM
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You assuming that this is advice or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:42 AM
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What’s that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:38 AM
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This is an insanely incomprehensible argument but I can tell that this is what you're really crying about. for example women are the biggest racissts when it comes to dating They're going to delete this but for the sake of it, listening to women has helped me. I've even learned from ones I hate like exes. Your whole thing is that women don't go against the grain, reality tells us otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:46 AM
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Women don't peak. Out attraction to them is evident of that, no one stops pursuing them past them reaching the age of 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:40 AM
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Real loser shit. Flat out embarrassing. Getting played by a teenager is one thing, his weird fetishes another.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 03:20 AM
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I like the marriage. Hate specific traditions and expectations. For example, I believe being a sole provider with a stay at home parent leads to misery and resentment. The most unhappy and withdrawn spouses seem to be in this predicament imo, so I could and will never find myself in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:32 PM
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It’s simply not needed due to present fathers and/or other positive male role models. Nobody with that is stressed for dating advice from online grift advice columns. You can’t make millions regurgitating advice that someone’s dad already helped them with 15-20 years ago lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:54 PM
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Yeah, I’m aware what you’re saying. I disagree that it’s psychological stimulation, especially not to the extent often described by men who subscribe to pick up artists methods/seduction. My argument is not that women are just ready to go any time any place, therefore they don’t need psychological stimulation for sexual attraction. My argument is that pick up artist tactics, here “psychological stimulation” is not needed to garner sexual interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:43 PM
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How is anyone psychologically stimulated by a date and some jokes? I don’t think what I described is that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 05:15 PM
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Makeup and provocative clothing are not forms of manipulation. This is an overdramatic argument. The men who like those things (me lol) aren’t tricked into attraction by it and the men who don’t like those things cannot be tricked into attraction by it. Women also don’t require psychological stimulation for sexual attraction. They have sex with men for doing things so minuscule like showing her a good time on dates and making her laugh. Pick up artistry on the other hand is demonized because it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:21 PM
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You could have just made your point on the other post, good lord lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:19 PM
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Naw. All you had to do was make the case for why and how your first reply would dispute my original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:37 PM
2

Chat can't articulate your specific point as it relates to your post though, so enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:10 PM
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We don't need to hypotheticals, a lot of men already have those values and are well within their right to lose interest in women who don't meet their wants. Shit, I'm one of them. "we can't even tell if we're attracted to a woman until they show us their cooking and flirting skills. This describes me to a tee almost.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 10:26 PM
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Naw, enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:52 PM
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Yeah it is, same if it were to be a man not feeling it due to a woman not performing his preferred gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:59 PM
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No offense but that disney fairytale shit sounds lame. There's a lot of post on this sub like this and what I'm starting to believe is that a lot of you fear risks, mainly risks of rejection and perception. Women have so much power over a lot of you and I think its because you let them. I observe this in people I know, this idea that women can rain down hell on them, gossip about you, etc. and its just like man, stand up goddamn. There is really no reason to be that scared of them but they got y…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:27 PM
4

Everyday men who can pull based on a variety of diverse factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:11 PM
7

Its top 10% 90/10 now? What happened to 80/20?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:49 PM
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You said you're speaking generally, so I'm responding to you in a general context and my opinion remains the same. Systemic issues exists and affect men and male gender roles in other areas sure but not here imo. We are shaped by culture. And social norms, media, and peer behavior influence everything. But none of it is confusing or hard to figure out regardless of mixed messaging on women sexuality. We see messaging that women are coy but we also see messaging that women are overly sexual. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 01:33 AM
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The problem doesn't exist. They're not difficult nor socialized by society to be. Which is why I don't see how any of this can be confusing when you know the woman in front of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:32 AM
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None of this stuff is confusing in my opinion. I think a lot of people overthink themselves into confusion because you're navigating based on society this, society that, instead of being conscious of the woman staring back at you. I can't think of one instance where I've ever been confused. First, I was taught from an extremely early age that no means no. So once there's a no, there is no "does she really mean it?" for me. I don't care if she really wants to and is playing hard to get. To me, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:12 AM
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Equal pay didn’t change anything. They just don’t like a lot of y’all. There’s a variety of factors as to why. Personally, I believe personalities are the biggest factor there. But earning equally did not impact their attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:46 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:34 PM
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No I'm not, at all. I don't even offer an argument for the best case of polygamy so where is the comparison?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:33 PM
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This post is just inflated ego "free thinker" larp nonsense and this is a dead giveaway. If I’m in a room full of hard-core communists, I have no problem telling them capitalism is still better than their ideology, even if it makes me the villain of the hour. Women are all in an echo chambers but men have courage lol. Sure champ.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 04:46 PM
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Not really. I can't speak to putting up with toxic behavior as I've never have as an adult and will never because I learned early. But if there's someone that I'm interested in, want to have sex with, and/or date, I'm absolutely treating her differently from someone I have no attraction to. I think it's crazy not to make someone like that feel special. What's even the point if I'm not going to show her a good time and treat her like I'm not attracted to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:23 PM
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Not sure what you're asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:32 AM
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Yeah if I had to but it'd honestly ruin my life and I'd hate my ex lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:23 PM
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There's different types of guys. This approach works for men who seemingly have a lot to lose and are heavily impacted by rejection but its not universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 06:40 PM
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The hoes have been always bad. And they did it without shit like max this max that because they didn't need a facade of social self improvement techniques to know that personal style, fitness, grooming, clothes, money/careers and aesthetics matter. Its not like you see a bunch of women walking around looking like and being bums everyday. A lot of men also already knew these things mattered and have been successful before everybody started maxing everything. If anything, those that were left behi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:21 PM
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Clubs haven't gone anywhere. Very much still active where I live which tells me they're likely even more active in NYC, LA, and Miami. Clubs were also never a place where average men didn't have to fight uphill battles or free of arrogance. The scene has always been a rat race but fun as hell nevertheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:17 PM
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I am though, easily lol. Especially when your point is premised entirely on your imagination of how things appear to be for women just because the option to do sex work or play men "exists"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:13 AM
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Everyone here has read and understood your post. Your arguments just aren't as well thought out as you believe they are. My point applies to whether its onlyfans or having men pay their bills or dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:00 AM
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Onlyfans won't save a majority of women from starving to death though. You argue as if its as easy as posting nudes, see immediate profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:24 AM
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The measure of an easier life isn't determined by backup options. It's a host of social factors relating to privilege in my opinion. You're practically saying that women have it easier because they have an option to sell their bodies as a last resort. One, sex work isn't easy. You can imagine the amount of mental turmoil a woman would take on if she's starving to death or has nowhere to live and has to resort to selling sex as a means to get by? That's not easy. A lot of women also don't have th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:18 AM
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Sex. Unspoken norms in my opinion but going out for drinks has to be the most common low pressure casual first date with subtle intentions on fucking each other. And no its not to get her overly drunk and take advantage assuming that someone here might accuse me of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 07:10 PM
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Figures. Y'all will hopefully grow out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:41 PM
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No its not. Sex outside of relationships is normal and doesn't make anyone special. Women understand that and don't care which is why they don't associate casual sex with high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:40 PM
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They don't associate high value with men having sex outside of committed relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:32 PM
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it makes him feel like a god This is lame. Casual sex is just sex. I'm assuming neither of you are older than 27-28. I'll admit, when you're young and its new the thrill is exciting but to describe it as feeling like a god, lmao get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:27 PM
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because how easily a man gets sex shows his value. This is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:14 PM
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Your type is what you like. It doesn't make sense for it to be who you attract, women attract attention from wide varities of of men, that doesn't make those men her type. Same with men. A lot of men have preferences for particular body types, skin/hair color but only pull the exact opposite. That doesn't make those women his type just because he doesn't "qualify" for slim blondes or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 05:04 PM
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Those who consistently get pussy will continue to do. Those who don't, won't. Nothing will change, the Earth will continue to spin. This argument is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:06 AM
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Emotional. Physical desire doesn't mean anything to me in comparison. That feeling of being loved can't be beat imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:09 PM
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I agree. The lack of empathy and lack of grace I've seen on this almost sociopathic. It also always seems like some desperate attempt to apply dumbass logic for the sake of appearing logical or resentment for feeling chosen over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 01:45 AM
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To you, sure and that's fine. Your beliefs are your beliefs. I think trans women and trans men are women and men though. People I've known personally have transitioned, so I've seen their lives and have discussed their experiences. I don't think my opinions and beliefs carry so much authority that I can tell people what they are/aren't or police others beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 09:20 PM
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Its so juvenile lol. There's a whole load of men implicitly insulted for doing nothing wrong but daring to have had sex with another man's crush/obsession. But the insults fall on the woman because the men who are upset over things like this are too afraid to aim their brashness at other men. She's "ran through" but they won't dare aim that vitriol at the men she's having/had sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:45 PM
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Nor is it meant to claim that men with low self esteem are cut off from sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:56 AM
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No. With respect to rule 5 but personally speaking, I have dark skin. There's no instance that makes sense that could make me believe that bullying isn't a thing until adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:32 AM
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Those can be offset by other factors, so I don't think it forms the basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:30 AM
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Go watch some old videos of Arnold in the bodybuilding days. I think Shaq is a good example of the opposite of this. Basing this off of what I can only assume as I don't know him personally but to anyone familiar with the nba, he comes off as someone with low self esteem. Very reactionary when he feels attacked. The mere existence of Dwight Howard had him acting crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:04 AM
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OP probably thinks healthy self-esteem is a 'decision, ' or something that can worked on through therapy. A big part of our self-image develops in adolescence, and that's exactly where most of bullying and pecking order behavior occurs with young men No I don't. In fact, I agree with you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:01 AM
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I mean, I hope you don't expect me to disagree. Society is terrible in that way and I have zero answers for where their self esteem is going to come from. I'm still unmoved in my opinion that they would be better options than those with high self esteem. If I had my way, we'd have a fair world though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:59 AM
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Something seemingly not lost on anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:57 AM
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I don't disagree that it matters but I think self esteem impacts differently that confidence. A person with low self esteem can be confident and navigate as such but if they're confident without a sense of self worth or value, I think it can negatively impact their interactions with women. I've known dudes to be confident and get after it but lack self esteem and eventually fumble it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:52 AM
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I'm not arguing desirability. I think men with high self esteem likely developed it before they even knew they were desirable to women like during teenage and early adulthood years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:49 AM
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I can see how it can but personally I think self esteem is something that's a product of your experiences over your lifetime. Some people have high self esteem because it was instilled by their parents, others have high self esteem because they get value from their careers, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:45 AM
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No I didn’t. Take this sassy ass bad faith shit somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:48 PM
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Lol get on with this weird ass shit. I'm open to actual discussion otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:37 PM
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For what purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:52 PM
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You were sexually assaulted at work by your boss at your desk.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:44 PM
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So you have a good understanding of what it broadly means. From there, any reasonable person could deduce that it could be any of the 2003 things and wouldn’t need further details in order to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:38 PM
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Every word is vague to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:25 PM
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Could be a butt grab, or some creep flashing her, or her boss kissing her earlobe. You call it vague and then go on to list three good examples of sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:22 PM
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Women really aren't as hard to figure out as often argued on this sub. I can hear each of these words on a first date and have a good understanding of what they mean by each simply from context of the conversation and my own understanding of each word. Yes, words have meaning, context, nuance, and common sense also matters. Nobody in their right mind navigates socially, especially in dating, needing textbook dictionary definitions for every word in order to understand what the woman in front of …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:17 PM
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No, the best interest of the child is being directly supported by their parent. Also, 100% from our government? Lol they could pull/slash funding whenever they want. So no it wouldn't be 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:08 PM
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Nope. Child support is about the best interest of the child. The child's interest takes priority over whatever the deadbeat parent wants. That's why I support taxing the rich but not the government paying child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:54 PM
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Why'd that post about men and active imaginations get taken down? This is kind of a perfect example. The common argument is that casual sex and relationships aren't available to average men but somehow suddenly for the sake of "once in lifetime experiences" the average man who has a girlfriend will also have a chance to cheat with Megan Fox. What are y'all on here? the average women who can sleep with NBA stars And when/where does this happen? Lmao Go to any game, sit close to the court, you'll …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:53 PM
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100% That dude probably loved taking care of his wife like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:24 PM
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Who cares? Honestly. We don't know these people. Social media makes everyone think we all go to one big high school and we adopt grievances on behalf of strangers that we will never meet but our lives are so far separated that none of this really matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 05:10 PM
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Sounds normal to me. In a situation where we're just dating, nothing serious, hanging out here and there or whatever and she doesn't want to have sex, that's fine. I don't care about friends with benefits. As long as my shit isn't a problem either, I don't see an issue. In fact, I think seeing other people until exclusivity is kind of an unspoken norm imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:49 AM
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No but I did for the first time recently. Not ashamed to say she got me 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:27 AM
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50%. There'll be a case where I reach out and another case where they text still in the uber on their way home.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:08 AM
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No rules. Text her to see if she made it home if she left mine's. Text her when I want to see her again even if she hasn't reached out. In most cases, I'm out and drunk with friends, text to see who's also out and wants to hang. Not much thought into it outside of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 01:32 AM
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For the betterment of society women should take responsibility in taking care of the next generation I think this is why things are so bad for a lot of men nowadays. Thinking that this is all supposed to be on women has led to absent fathers and lack of male role models who don't believe they have a responsibility and it's been extremely detrimental to the development and growth of a lot of modern men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:41 AM
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You literally can. I think observing what's in front of you is so easy that it doesn't even take psychoanalyzing, Everyone is not on their best behavior on first dates. And even if so, reasonable people don't struggle to see through the facade.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:40 AM
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Reply notifications stopped. 😂😂 This is exactly what I'm on about. This facade of "leverage", needing to feel some power retained in every interaction. You wouldn't act this way if you weren't scared of them or scared of humans generally I guess given this type of response. This isn't shaming or insulting, but as you admit here, Dating is now power games You're scared of women. Any loss of "power" in dealing with them terrifies you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:16 PM
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Leverage Is King. In today's dating world, having the upper hand is what wins the game. Definitely scared of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:39 PM
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I'm anti-advice for men by thinking men deserve better advice. Sure. When I speak to women about this exact same thing, they don’t think of the behavior OP is describing as “gamify it (approaching for conversation) for the sake of “assessing.” Don't expect me to think I'm wrong based on how women see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:57 AM
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it’s about removing that initial reaction to how they look when you engage in the conversation. No matter how you dress it up, my point remains. You take a simple, natural human interaction, gamify it for the sake of "assessing" rather than impressing. There's nothing powerful about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:37 AM
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No it doesn't. It implies that gamification isn't necessary to be success at this stuff. Struggling can be for any number of reasons, not solely because of this mindset approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:28 AM
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A person isn't in denial because they disagree with you lol. That would require objectivity, which isn't present here. It's not powerful. Take away me calling it gamifying and it still isn't powerful. OP admits that it's an attempt to preserve self respect. OP didn’t say that attraction is not ok, either, so you just made that up. I didn't say that's what OP said. Fundamentals dude, stop reading in a way where you imagine assertions by mere words. I would have said "attraction is an effect and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:07 AM
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It's not powerful at all. You don't have to lie to yourself to feel secure, in a case of approaching, someone's beauty did have an effect on you, attraction is an effect and that's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:41 AM
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No, I'm simply saying that this is unnecessary when interacting with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:38 AM
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How do you attract women by thinking "your beauty has no effect on me."?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:36 AM
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I think gamifying simple and normal human interaction is something that separates men who struggle with this stuff and men who don't. Do we really need a powerful mindset to walk away from every interaction feeling like we've maintained the upper hand at something? Edit: Someone commented below "Having to employ “a mindset” in order to interact with another human being.." and it made think to another point. A lot of y'all are just straight up scared of women. And I don't say this to insult, havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:29 AM
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I think I contradict your point. Proving your point wouldn't result in later rejection. Phoning it in matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:35 AM
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I don't know if I agree that the sex doesn't matter. I somewhat agree with what you're getting at but there's been times where I know I've phoned it in on a first time fuck which depleted all desire lol. These aren't cases where it can't be chalked up to her not actually wanting me, I'm privileged with meeting a very low bar for desire. But I'm very self aware and fully cognizant of where and when I don't bring it and how that contributes to later rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:06 AM
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An ex once told me something like "you think you're a good boyfriend just because you don't cheat." And while I hated her, she had a point lol. I think the same applies to the nice guy trope. You're not nice just because you don't have a criminal record or don't go to clubs. Dudes have to grow out of that black and white way of thinking at some point. It's immature imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:45 PM
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This is lame. Most of you are not that guy. Otherwise you wouldn't have to play pretend. You've never ghosted, you've never lied, you've never disregarded women's feelings, any facade you put on portraying the opposite is just going to break you. Ghosting isn't easy for men who are practically starved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:32 PM
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This a troll post lol they should be banned by the government. Can't. Wouldn't be constitutional. Government wouldn't be able to discriminate against those who want to use condoms despite having a very low burden to clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:17 PM
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I'm arguing anecdotally but I think dating in 30s are fine. People your age are in settling down mode with someone they have been dating on and off the past few years and not really interested in meeting new people. People your age are also leaving longtime relationships and getting divorced. I don't think there's a shortage of single people who are interested in meeting new people in their 30s. Guys who start hitting their 30s, single and childless, just to be threat profiled as weirdo loner pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 07:08 PM
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Think OP has a point. I talk about myself a lot, even when interested. Can easily tell when there won't be a second date because of it lol. Self inflicted for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:18 PM
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I think disney or whatever you want to attribute it's equivalent did irreparable damage to a lot of men's perceptions of dating reality. Everybody expects their perfect fairy tale but struggle when reality misaligning with it, so now they see themselves as the second option or safe choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:53 PM
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Of course they don't have to, but it's their funeral. As with everything, it depends on who the advice is coming from. Because this is damn near common sense, so much that I'd have to assume someone unaware of it may not be successful in dating or terrible with women. I also explained that even if you do get a girl's number or Snapchat, that it doesn't mean shit But it also sounds like some advice I would have received from someone older when I was younger and listened to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 07:45 PM
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I'm guilty of this. I think it's natural for me because subconsciously I don't want dates to feel like interviews so I never ask much outside of how their day was. But I think there's misconception. To me, no questions doesn't mean this can’t carry a conversation in any meaningful direction, and shows little genuine interest in the other person’s life? Why are women repeatedly ending up on dates with men who contribute so little to basic communication? I don't hound with questions but my dates w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 06:14 PM
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Under the Chad logic, Chad's already aren't cut off so there is no "more open to more Chads" if that's who they're supposedly already having sex with indiscriminately.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 04:22 PM
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Nope. Attractive men will always have access, that's a given, but women would probably be open to more partners if they weren't scared and shamed out of doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:56 PM
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Yup. Slut shaming culture killed any chance that a lot of men had at having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:38 PM
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I'm not talking about exceptions either, my point is specifically to low interest. We can argue percentiles all day but it won't change the fact that women (and men) aren't doing anything wrong or making anything harder by expressing low interest. While for most women it requires just an average man lol Can say the same for men with different taste than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:10 AM
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Key words here: Women's low interest Dating women isn't significantly harder in situations where they actually like you. So of course pursuing someone with low interest is is an uphill battle, that's the case regardless of gender. Place yourself in a woman with low interest's shoes. Someone likes you but you're not really into them. They're going to have the same argument for dating you as you argue here take initiative way more and put themselves in a vulnerable, powerless position more frequen…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:02 PM
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Hindsight is 20/20. We've all made wrong decisions before but if a woman isn't scared to go home with you, it's likely because she feels safe to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:08 PM
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Not if they feel safe, which boils down to the luck of the draw imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:02 PM
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Why cultivate such a negative and restrictive social environment That's the way cultures and customs work. And how do you think this might influence the commonly talked about issue of women being hesitant to perform gestures of romantic love in same vein men often feel expected to? I don't think these two things go hand in hand. Women are still romantic without expectations to propose.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:18 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:14 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised, I know everybody's different. While I think it's great for you, it wouldn't work for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:33 PM
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This doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement of the blue pill to me. Because it's not. So they had no success at all, then they changed and then they were getting chances? No, they maintained their status quo, not "no success". Chances in high school, chances in college, chances in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:26 PM
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People are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:13 AM
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Poor analogy. Far outside the context of the post and how I agreed with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:07 AM
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literally admitting that you believe that what you want to believe what you've observed Duh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:37 AM
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That's fine. Doesn't change my agreeing with op.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:22 AM
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Am I supposed to change my opinion because some other woman has a different one? No, when someone gives an example, it's not an assertion that you have to conform. Sounds like we hang out in different circles. 🤷 My experience differs. And thank goodness for that. Typically how it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:16 AM
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No, they struggled, then struggled even more. And on the off chance they got a chance, they fumbled it. In the worst ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:17 AM
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2 Americas. Someone further down wrote how she'd rather face public execution. Those tend to be the women I know and the social circles they hang with. They'd be happy for her. So no, they'd get clowned as it pertains to my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:13 AM
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lavished on and adores in such a grand They know I'm typically uncomfortable being on the receiving end of grand gestures, in the spotlight like that, especially my parents. They'd be confused as hell. A lot of men on here claim that women aren’t romantic enough to them and don’t put in the same effort Can't attribute what others say to others. Is being love with you foolish? I have a lot to answer for but here, I'm speaking foolish in the context of optics, not literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:09 AM
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Just how optics goes. Could you imagine how she'd be perceived by her family and friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:04 AM
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Yeah. Saw dudes fall into it early, around 21-22. Ruined their lives, ruined their chances with every woman who dared give them a chance. Went into their 30s losers. Sad to observe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:27 AM
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I'd be embarrassed lmao 😭 Can't imagine how that'd look to my family and friends. Some things are just the way they are and while I'm not traditional by any means, I would not want my girlfriend looking like a fucking fool in any way for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:03 AM
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That tells me nothing. Those people are dumb for following a grifter. There really is know "they", the person you responded to doesn't even know who he is. Are you mistaking a grifter's fanbase to represent the entirety of America's left wing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:06 PM
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The reason for that is because he's a grifter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:34 PM
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The extent that redditors go to be bad at being snarky. "hypocrisy and double standards are okay cuz women are human" Like this doesn't even make sense when I'm explicitly saying the same applies to us, unless you're Curt Hennig which you're not because you would've comprehend what's clear instead of arguing against something that's not even there. Read.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:22 AM
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Your argument. The debate tag.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:43 PM
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My point is not that your argument is wrong. My point is that it's presented like you have no concept of the outside world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:31 PM
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People on this sub make arguments as if they have no concept of the outside world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:21 PM
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That's part of being human imo. I'm curious, are you different? You've never or don't change belief based on context? You strictly align with every ideal at every instant through your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:10 PM
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I'm not and you agree with me by reiterating my point just differently. unconscious bias Only difference is being flawed and self serving is normal to me, seemingly bad to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:52 PM
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Do y'all really find women this complicated?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:03 PM
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I think it is, and its fine (which isn't even really for me to say) because bi men don't want to date those women either or they shouldn't. I just wish those women would stand firm in their in their biphobia instead of making excuses. Like, own it if you want to be that instead of trying to convince us that you're not a bad person for it because honestly, no one really cares, stop being so scared to look in the mirror. Also, constitutional rights argument in this context doesn't make much sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:42 PM
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Might as well change the name of the sub to PurplePillWhining. It's become insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:44 PM
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That's not a straw man. It doesn't distort OP's argument. I made the point that selective traditionalism is not a thing. I used those as a means of strengthening my own argument. Those are my own words, not an exaggeration of OP's. You'd have a point if I argued something like OP is using selective traditionalism to mean that women are secretly feigning to become conservative housewives or something, that would be me exaggerating his point. But I'm not. No straw man here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:56 PM
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Poor baby's pussy hurt. Cry about it somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:51 PM
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Quote it directly so I know what you're talking about, otherwise I can't really respond. Keeping in mind, that my main point is that selective traditionalism isn't a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:47 PM
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Point out where I do to prove that you know what that actually means.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:37 PM
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How can you say you hate traditionalism but that you also pay for every date that you go on??? Things are easier when you read to comprehend rather than read to reply. I mean, the answer is staring you right in the face in my main point. humans are dynamic Which undercuts the entirety of your cry baby "you're the problem!" ass response. More reading, less bitching.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:36 PM
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You're using your concept of being selectively traditional to describe human nature. There's really no such thing. So your whole reason is not you doing it because you like it Also, don't assume. I'm very much an out here man. I live in a big city, I love the company of women, I love bars and restaurants, and I love being out. My whole reason actually is because I love this shit. but you being afraid of making a bad impression on women And I'm not afraid of rejection. It's wanting to make a good…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:21 PM
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No they don't. All men are porn addicted pigs! This objectively would sound stupid and you'd have to question why anyone would give credence to anyone who says that. No sensible person see's that statement and take it to be true so no, women don't get to generalize all day every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:13 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:06 PM
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"Selective traditionalism" when really humans are dynamic beings capable of a variety of ideals, beliefs, and approaches in sociological instances, like dating. It's like you all want women to fit some perfect concept of how to behave in every single social interaction, otherwise they're hypocrites, when we ourselves aren't even capable of that. No one is, because wavering from a strict existence is part of being human. You can't mold the entirety of women to fit your idea of how they should beh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 08:41 PM
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Will never happen. There'll always be a willing participant to a man who appeals to a woman's need.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:48 PM
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You're not being logical or thinking critically, you're just making out the act of getting sex something to be that it's not. Having a ton of sex as a man gets less shit because you have to have some kind of skill to do it Because this isn't true. Women want to fuck (and they usually know it from the moment they meet a man who they want) and generally to be one that they want to fuck, a man just has to meet their attraction needs. Looks isn't some kind of skill, it's a natural state. The idea th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:55 AM
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You can't disprove what my original comment already acknowledges. Not sure why you called it untrue then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:31 AM
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What are you afraid of? And what exactly are you disproving? That women caring makes you want to pursue sex less? Help me understand because I've never been asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:08 AM
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What do you mean you hide it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:56 AM
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Women could care and we'd still be sluts. The threat of no marriage wouldn't be enough to stop us from pursuing sex. The reason why men can be sluts and women "can't" is simply misogyny. Edit: Too many on this sub abuse the block button. Shit's lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:31 AM
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The whole thing sucks. Point isn't that exceptions disprove a trend, it's that you don't even argue any credible trends in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:25 PM
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Are we sure we just aren't mislabeling women broadly as progressive for being feminist? Every feminist or pro trans woman is not a progressive based on those stances alone. Every woman I've known and been in relationships who hated bi men socially leaned more towards gender roles and traditionalism. Compared to more broadly socially progressive women that I've known and dated who's always been "pls be a little more gay" towards me. For that reason, this argument doesn't make sense to me. Maybe n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:39 AM
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Who's experiences are these? I don't get why so many arguments here are made in such absolutes. Men do/don't do this, women do/don't this. I don't think any of us know it all or have the answers sufficient enough to reach these kind of conclusions. I've observed tons of different women friend groups, my consensus is that they love a good time and love spending it together. Having events, going out, getting drunk and screaming. Not needing attention or shoulders to vent. Does that happen? Sure bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:14 PM
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With respect to not breaking rule 5, if you aren't black or don't go anywhere where black people are, the gas station association probably wouldn't make sense to you. I'm assuming the op of this comment, like me, share a culture because I know exactly what they're talking about pertaining to gas stations but of course I could be wrong. Regardless, the gas station is where dudes hang out. You think it's homeless dudes with no teeth but in the context of the comment, I gotta assume she means more …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 05:03 AM
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Absolutely insane how incapable people are of answering basic questions instead of talking around it with off topic nonsense lol. What qualities are you judging? This should elicit a simple answer, but instead this thread is filled with a bunch of nothing answers. Personally, I don't think there are many good men. But I do think these are good qualities to judge and I think fall into this category as most of my close friends men who are kind, considerate, funny, financially stable, monogamously …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:32 AM
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People who abuse the block function should be banned from posting here. Not commenting but posting. I'm not even sure if that's something the mods can do but it happens way too often.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:23 AM
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The women here are too intelligent and well adjusted to be an audience to the equivalent of a rambling red piller. They don't need you. It's not even about me and my "mental health problems" it's about making and argument and being able to defend it, which you can't. Why would you think you have an audience of women here who are capable of that, when you yourself aren't? C'mon lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:48 PM
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No it's not, my comments are clear. You just can't argue. Mods should delete this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:12 PM
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girls we found the guy who will lead you straight to your next STD, Ya got me.. Even though I've never contacted or given anyone anything in my life lol. I'd bet I'm more up to date on my status and sex health than you are on yours, but sure, for pretend sake. Anyway, your main argument isn't convincing. Men aren't on dating apps for the male gaze. If anything, it's a general lack of no how. Everything else, particularly to HIV, is all too familiar projections and isn't worth engaging. Awful pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:26 PM
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No they're not, people just aren't good at making profiles. So less of whatever this means, especially "they want women to act like men" They would rather impress other men than be with a woman. They do not optimize their photos, their message responses, nothing to be geared to the “feminine gaze”. They want princess treatment and they want women to act like men. and more so ineptness because dating apps don't come naturally as a skill. I know there’s an epidemic of DL men Get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:58 PM
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Women get blamed for stuff we all do. The convenience of ghosting isn't exclusive to them and it also doesn't invalidate cases where they do it out of fear of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:22 PM
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Not an issue for people who don't suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:44 AM
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Nope. It's on the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:11 AM
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No it's not. Except for exceptional circumstances, if you're so lonely to the extent that no one wants to be around you, it's because people find you insufferable. That's not exclusive to any gender either. If men truly are in a loneliness epidemic, it's likely the individual's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:50 AM
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That's true, I can't argue that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 09:38 PM
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I can agree the takeaway is valid when you push on mindset. But you don't really offer any proof of that and you expect us to believe your conclusion just because you say so. We don't know that the person who says "I want to be truly desired" is the same person as “If a woman doesn’t fuck you immediately, that means she doesn't actually desire you." I don't find these type of arguments that attribute one internet comment to generalized views and opinions of others all that convincing and a big c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 09:22 PM
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We don't know that a person is complaining about nonsexual human interaction by wanting to be desired unless they explicitly are in their point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 08:46 PM
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No it doesn't. Without clear evidence that the speaker despises relationships, we have no reason to believe that a person who wants to be desired secretly wants one sided validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 08:19 PM
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I've been told by conservative women that they just don't like conservative men all that much. I'm not sure what the disconnect is but I assume it's based in traditionalism vs non-traditionalism with conservatism somehow being the common denominator. Because conservative women have casual sex. So I have to imagine that's frowned upon by conservative men and conservative women don't want to deal with that. I don't know though, not my fight. that's why we see men putting "a-political" or "centrist…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:35 PM
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Traditionalism is hilarious to observe. On one end you'll have women preaching hold out until commitment. On the other the men that they're available to (traditional men) preaching no commitment until sex out of fear of being played, led on, women weaponizing sex, etc. Y'all are in a doozy revolving door of never getting what you want because of these strict rules and non-nuanced approaches to everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:56 PM
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It depends on how he handles rejection. Personally, rejection doesn't affect my mental health nor makes me feel like shit every time I see them. So I'm able to maintain friendships with those who have rejected me. On the other hand, I've seen dudes treat rejection like death. So it really just depends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 11:41 PM
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No, because that's not what I'm saying at all. Even the most social butterflies who put themselves out there don't get laid by going to parties. I've observed this with my own eyes. OP's question puts introvert against extrovert, my point is simply that it's possible for introverted men to get laid causally too. Not "all you need to do is put yourself out there."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:19 AM
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I think it depends on what the women he's surrounded by likes. I think introverted men can get casual sex rather easily because they appeal to a type of particular women. But casual sex is never going to be the case for men that fall into this category. man can claim to hate music, functions, gatherings, kickbacks, beer, wine, cocktails, people in general, and kinetic energy Introverted men who are in those scenes still excel imo. Like being the quiet guy at the party rather opposed to the quiet…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:23 AM
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What often gets ignored is that there's no shortage of real winners out there in regards to men. Whether blue collar, white collar, art scene, there's tons of men out there secure in their livelihoods, their looks, their lives in general, who leading totally opposite lives opposed to that of the "average" man. Age is no factor either. Life isn't linear and circumstances are dynamic so the idea that all the good options are gone by age 25, married and put up isn't reality. So no, single moms don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:30 PM
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Agreed. This whole issue isn't even exclusive to men either imo. My personal takeaway based on observing shit across social media is that people are lacking from friendships and relationships because everybody is so insufferably pedantic, "contrarian", and insulting. Can't help but think these are the same people complaining about not getting invited to parties or being able to find girlfriends or boyfriends. My hot take is that it seems like we have one big misery problem rather than a male lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 12:21 AM
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Shockingly insane how happy a life a guy can live when he's not drowning in insecurities about everything 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:50 PM
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Become a high value man, earn her trust, treat her like a princess, act like a perfect slave, and then sabotage whatever she values most. The benefits of a happy life outweigh the ends of your fight against women. So no lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:39 PM
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Your view is your view but in my case, there'll never be a ring if we aren't cooking for each other. I cook for flings that I only know for a month or two and never see again. If someone sees cooking as a privilege that must be earned, our values are different and we have no business being together. To them, cooking is a gender dynamic seemingly traditional responsibility. To me, cooking is a hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:00 PM
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On one end, you have men who believe that break ups are the worst thing in the world. On the other end, you have men who initiate break ups. Funnily enough, men who initiate break ups never get the same flack for it that women do. When women break up it's "Society doesn't allow women to be held to any standard for breaking commitments." When men break up, it's not even seen as something possible for the gender. Completely ignoring that there are just as many men out there living dating lives sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:35 PM
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I really don't see the big deal. I would rather go to hell than date or marry certain women. I'm also being hyperbolic as I don't believe that there is a hell but I would rather take on that suffering rather than date someone that I'm miserably incompatible with. I think men and women are the same in more ways than we like to think and if you just place yourself in the others shoes, applying your own life's experiences, you'd have an easier time understanding the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:06 PM
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What it is about preamble or emotional burst in sentences that annoys you and do your male friends not talk the same? These seem like natural speaking traits imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:31 AM
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even the ones that can, are super annoying. What should women talk about that would make them more appealing to you? Genuinely curious because between this and Fuentes' similar statement, it's dawning on me that the disdain a lot of y'all have go beyond general dating issues. It's like a general disgust for their existence so I'm curious what would make women easier to be around for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:20 AM
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No. Both have multiple elements that I think the best flirters are good at manipulating to their advantage. Body language isn't just "stiff as a board" it's knowing when to lean in, conform yours to hers based on hers, when to touch her, how to touch her, subtly signaling that you want her. You can see this exemplified by watching a friend flirt or something. If you have a friend and he's flirting with someone well, although you can't hear their conversation, surely you can read sexual tension b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 01:11 AM
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No way you should be confused on context on your own post. We're talking about flirting. If you see a man flirting with a woman, say at a bar, and he's doing it well, chances are he's not sitting there stiff as a board as if he were sitting on a train.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:45 AM
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This is code for "I have no argument"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:25 AM
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Flirting is easy. Body language and natural conversation is how you do it well imo. Explain how women infer toxicity from men Looks. It's not rocket science. They see/meet an attractive man, especially good at flirting, they reasonably conclude said man meets their definition of toxic, which is subjective. A lot of women don't but a lot of women view being attractive, able to pull multiple women, flirtatious etc. as toxic. They see/meet an unattractive man, they reasonably conclude that he may b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:17 AM
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I think so. Maturity Stop allowing their grievances to be exploited by a system that sees them nothing more than disposable storm troopers to the greater good of a culture war. To me, these are the biggest areas of weakness that I've observed in struggling men that I've known personally. They didn't have a sense of maturity to navigate dating and sex as if it weren't some psychological warfare between genders. Every interaction or hypothetical interaction with women was seen as some sort of play…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 07:22 PM
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Are you even reading what you're posting? What exactly are you arguing? And can you make that point beyond the study's abstract? It's only 9 pages. women were more likely to be sentenced to jail for robbery and assault than were men; men were more likely than women to be incarcerated for property crime. This suggests that women may be sanctioned more harshly when their behavior violates sex-role stereotypes. Finally, comparisons of sentence lengths indicates that prison terms of males and female…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:01 PM
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I don't know anything about French law. The US (which I made it clear I was referring to in my first comment) portion of the article say though, In 2019 The Guardian claimed that outdated data on sentencing disparity have been widely cited,\12]) such as a 2006 ACLU article saying that the average prison sentence is 2 to 6 years for men who kill their female partners and 15 years for women who kill their male partners. This claim was repeated by Women's March organization\12]) or by journalist Mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 05:36 PM
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Can you read the rule and opinion of each to establish your claim that courts say as law women must and should face less punishment because women are "naturally less dangerous, less responsible, or less likely to commit intentional harm."? I googled the first five and could only find and opinion from People v. Ayala. A quick glance shows that it seems to be an appeal regarding punishment for the murder of three people. But the facts establish that the defendant there is a man, so exactly how doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:55 PM
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What case has gone to court and established your argument? Give me a name.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:34 PM
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That's just flat out not true. Every case is different, so there may be mitigating circumstances that go either way meaning a man could get less time for the same crime. But if a woman is guilty of something like murder, she's getting an extensive sentence no different than a man would. the male counterpart for the same crime. Also keeping in mind, this could probably violate a man's right against cruel and unusual punishment in addition to his equal protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:30 PM
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So what happens when a woman commits and is convicted of a felony?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 04:22 PM
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Social media talks about equality in a way that makes me believe that they don't actually know what it is or means. I've seen it alluded to that you can just fight a woman. Why? Equality and that's just not true. the idea that women are naturally less dangerous, less responsible, or less likely to commit intentional harm. Courts and cops treated them accordingly. As this is also not true. Equality itself protects against this, equality means that the government can't apply laws unfairly without …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 03:55 PM
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I don't know. Lack of will if I had to guess. I knew I wanted my 20s to looks like partying and fun when I was a teen but I still knew I had to work hard. I went hard as hell but I still got my degrees and made out a good professional career for myself in the midst of all the drinking, clubs, partying, all of which I still do. From observing people around me, it feels like a lot of dudes expected success to sort of fall out of the sky and just happen. They looked forward to a better future, espe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:59 PM
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I don't think so, I think people are too often concerned about telling the other person what they want to hear rather than just being themselves. To me, "so what are you looking for?" on first dates isn't about trying to stay in contention for their attraction, it's about protecting my own interests. My answer is always the same, "I don't know." because I genuinely don't. We can hookup on the first date and be married in 3 years, I'm not that much of an intentional dater, take the lead, etc. typ…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:45 PM
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They're fine. Nothing more than a casual way to meet new people to supplement other social avenues. And awkwardness isn't scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:42 AM
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I think the scale of emotional labor that a lot of you take on is self-inflected. It's these words specifically Upon first courtship contact men have to carefully study and interpret women's cues and manage tone, pacing, and emotional cues to show they’re safe, not pushy, and genuinely interested. They have to signal confidence and avoid signs of weakness or it's game over before it even began. that make me recognize the exact kind of dating views you're speaking on because I've personally known…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:13 AM
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You're incapable of viewing dating through a normal lens, any act that you don't consider valid will be deemed falling for their "tricks" or being "under their finger." What next women say men aren’t bringing flowers and chocolates on dates, what will you do? You have an idealized view of the dating world so you can't help but make these kind of assumptions like this even though I would never because I don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:32 PM
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Dating simply isn't dating to a lot of you all and its evident by how you frame the world around you. Personally, I believe a lot of you weren't taught the game when you were young and how to get what you want out of it. To a lot of you, dating seems more about being a never ending sociological debate where you're more concerned about proving your points rather than your own success. For example, I think I'm pretty good at getting exactly what I want out of the dating world, I've known my goals …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 07:24 PM
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Apparently that's just "witty banter" lol Maybe they see it as a way of flirting? I don't know, very weird approach either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:30 AM
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the smart ones will adapt to what women are asking for. They really don't hear you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 12:00 AM
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Cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 11:10 PM
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"You're just a convenience and your girlfriend doesn't really like you" A lot of y'all here are miserable and misery can't be debated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 06:33 PM
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They don't. Lot of dudes have romcom fantasies and they idealize reality. When I cold approach, it's not with the expectation that women want to talk to me, it's simply me just bullshitting. At bars, clubs, social settings, just randomly striking up conversations with no forethought behind it. It's no deeper than that. It's natural interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:30 PM
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But would you like the kind of person who is behind it? I often do, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 12:51 AM
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High maintenance could mean different things to us. women who put so much effort into their looks, they will have extensions, filler, lashes, makeup, nice clothes, nice nails. These women are my types but I don't think they're high maintenance. To me high maintenance would simply mean insufferable. For example, needing constant of attention and constance reassurance to maintain the status quo and security. That's a lot of work imo which equates to high maintenance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:46 PM
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No, they're losers lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:36 PM
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Hmm, I don't know that to be true. Freedom of the press doesn't protect against libel, yes a standard has to be met, actual malice and harm to reputation which the friend would have to prove. He already explained that he can’t sue Uber for suspension as to sign up on Uber as a driver, you wave certain rights. I'm not sure where the uber explanation came from. Seems like the original commenter asked about the recording relating to the school where he said in his op The only thing that saved him w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:23 AM
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You said they blasted him so what exactly was it? Like a story or police beat? What about suing to stop his suspension?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 01:17 AM
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Was this in the U.S.? Because I don’t get what you mean. He could have sued for his suspension and he was harmed of libel by the newspaper, how could he not sue?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 08:12 PM
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What about the school and newspaper? Certainly grounds there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:42 PM
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No, this game is situational. you're paying a premium for something some other guy will get at a discount. I have enough experience to just not care. This type of stuff doesn't mean anything to me. There's going to be women you that give it to you within an hour of meeting you, there's going to be others who give it to you depending on the situational. Life is way too dynamic to be caught up about what past men did. In return, I don't expect women to hound me about what I did or didn't do for ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 08:01 AM
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Dating problems seem more like stupid problems to me, not middle class. Not exclusive to one side either, everything generally just seems so stupid. My pov is admittedly privileged, my worst problems have been concocted drama but even still, I just ignore that, so I’ve lived a generally peaceful dating life. But from observing the world around me, I’m so lost on a lot of things. Like what do you mean you keep getting lied to and played by men? What do you mean you don’t know where to ask women o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 06:04 PM
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Yeah. I think it’s weird honestly. Wish men collectively had the wherewithal to care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 05:48 PM
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Agree wholeheartedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 10:48 PM
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I'm not too convinced that social skills don't matter simply because hand biting homicidal guy was able to date your date. No offense, but to me, she simply sounds desperate and stupid to keep seeing someone like that with no other real or general implications to conclude from her dating him. Personally, I think social skills are extremely advantageous. To me, it simply means having the wherewithal to thrive socially in myriad of different social settings. Whether it's 1:1 with someone you just …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:13 PM
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Hasn't been my experience. Im sure there men who genuinely are hopeless romantics. Unfortunately, shitty men ruin it for them. Specifically this. I think we underestimate how simple and easy it is to disclaim the bad actions of others. So much that I don't even say it's my love language, other people tell me that it is. Whether it's a red or yellow flag isn't universal enough to debate imo. These are just our individual views and experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:31 PM
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Wrong, I responded to a red herring. I don't think you know what a straw man is, there's no misrepresenting from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 04:26 AM
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Yeah it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:35 AM
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Or if we just keep it grounded within context of your own discussion, there's nothing embarrassing because developing and maintaining romantic relationships is not as easy as you seem to believe. No problem, hope it helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:19 AM
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How do you draw that conclusion? Struggles don't have to be equal for my point that dating is not a zero sum game to make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 02:08 AM
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Not really. Dating isn't a zero sum game like that. You think they're on easy mode because men are supposedly on hard mode when really, shit is tough for everybody. Yet you’re still unable to hold a good job for any significant amount of time, constantly getting fired or not meeting the expectations of your employers. Then, given the mercy of being able to blame the companies for them not being good enough for you. It’s insane. You're not even talking to anyone here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:59 AM
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Tried to explain this to a friend who wanted to be the "casual sex fuck boy". You need to start viewing a woman as an independent person that you have no control over. If she breaks up with you, consider that your turn is over. If you find a girl hot, don’t overthink and plan a fantasy future in your head or have any idealization or expectations Yet he couldn't stop doing this. Gotta say, I agree with this post. So many dudes don't know what they really want, the whole hookup material thing soun…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:54 PM
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Wrong. Look at OP's point here This is how all the evolved, performative f-boys behave: they don’t try to lead the woman or be a “man” to her. He's right. Everybody supposedly wants to be the guy who fucks a lot of women casually, this mindset is one that helps you do it. Not being bogged down by the idea of being her man/boyfriend/husband is all it really is. But men are different. It's not a lifestyle for everyone which goes to say why all of this hookup material shit needs to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:50 PM
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Yup. Best to just let sexual things escalate naturally in my experience. Within the first three messages I was often asked about my kinks, what I was willing to do for them sexually, and often given an uncomfortable woe is me rant about how women are so awful and I probably won’t be any better because we’re all the same. I've seen this with my own eyes btw. Crazy way to behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:40 PM
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Very much. I'm awful with knowing names, yet socializing is still a precursor. I may not know their names but I wouldn't of gotten there without parent instilled social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:08 AM
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Huh? Socializing is a precursor to sex in many cases imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:55 PM
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I think it's parents responsibility to help their kids thrive socially. They're supposed to instill values, skills, and educate their kids to the extent that they become competent adults who excel at relationships, regardless of type, whether it's your boss, neighbor, friend, etc. It just so happens that learning all of this from your parents will also teach you how to get laid. So yes, coach your kids up, help your kids get laid I say.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:14 PM
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Yeah and I disagree. And not in defense of men who claimed their mom's failed them, I just think it's a bad point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:56 PM
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Mine did. I think it's reasonable that they teach their kids to at least be competent in the dating and sex game. It started with "no means no" as early as I can remember around 7 and never was "girls will like you when you're extra nice to them!” I turned out fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:10 PM
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No. I'm saying that women acknowledge their existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:27 AM
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"hey lets meet at ABC Bar at 7pm" The game is literally this easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:33 PM
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To be honest, most men really do not like going out on most dates. Y'all are crazy. I already like going out for food and drinks by myself. It's even better when someone new tags along. Possibility of sex? I'm sold even more. I know red pill preaches against dates but I think it genuinely makes the game so easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:32 PM
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Basically, they want us to believe that an average guy who gets attention once every few months will get sex and then dump that girl and go for another long period without any interaction with women Isn't it kind of obvious that they aren't talking about men who don't get attention and have zero options? You acknowledge that those men barely get chances but also think they're the ones filling up women's match queues? Women aren't lying, they're just not talking about the men you think they are. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:37 PM
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Seems natural to me. Life isn't perfect, I don't think everybody is capable of hitting it off successfully on first try. Seems reasonable to cast a wide net then come back to it should life work that way later. Think of how many couples got together in their 30s and 40s after knowing each other in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:00 AM
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This is how I was taught. I don't see any issues at all. then when you are READY to settle down, "spin the block" on the good dudes so to speak. Big believer in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 02:44 AM
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None of these even sound like real problems imo, I see no cause for regulations. I wish people unhappy with them would just get off of them. Dating apps is and have always been a casual low investment way to meet new people. You also don't have to succumb to their shady practices, you don't have to buy premium, you don't have to buy unlimited swipes, you don't have to swipe until you find a date. Anyone being radicalized because they can't get matches isn't even worth talking about, that's pathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:08 PM
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What exactly is their sexual best and how do you measure that? Like if your wife was really good at fucking, what would make you question whether that's her best or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 03:57 PM
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Like actual friends who just happen to also fuck. Just because we're casual doesn't mean that we have to be weird about it is how I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:01 PM
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I’m saying this as a question for you reflect on No you're not. You’re just using extreme reverses to justify your views. Basically saying "your parents don't infantilize you, they must not like you that much." That type of logic is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:08 PM
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Not living at home doesn't mean that you hate your parents. keep being a good child? Literally every single family dynamic is different. My parents wouldn't want this for me for example. edit: He blocked me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 04:58 PM
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Some of us just want our own space. Doesn't mean that we hate our parents. Shit, they want their own space too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 04:56 PM
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“I’ve never seen this” The way people deny shit here is crazy. I have to assume none of you live full lives. This was literally my first relationship problem as a teen, I saw my best female friend as number 1, girlfriend as number 2. Why? I don’t know. I liked my friend more I guess. As adults, she hates me, we’re not friends anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 03:18 PM
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If they're paying for dinner and fun dates and not fucking FWB's of their own, then that's on them. This doesn't sound bad imo. Dudes should have their regular FWB's too. I bet the dudes your friends are fucking are probably going on dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:59 PM
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Ok tough guy, good talk. Edit: Bozo blocked me lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:28 PM
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Save the snark. What does investing and adding value to your life look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:53 PM
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I see, thank you for answering. Genuinely.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:40 PM
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I haven’t been there but I get exactly what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:12 PM
2

What are some actions that would satisfy that for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:01 PM
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What does that look like? Do a “thanks for the drinks!” suffice? Or does she have to fuck? Not knocking either way, they show appreciation differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:59 PM
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What are some things that make you realize she’s putting in the same effort as you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:55 PM
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Got it. Thank you for answering.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:51 PM
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I’m not downvoting, I’m just not sure what you’re talking about. I just want to know what a woman has to do for you to think she’s worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:50 PM
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I wouldn’t feel anything. Does it have to be a you said this so I say that? I’m just trying to understand here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:48 PM
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How long does it typically take you to figure out whether she meets that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:37 PM
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Can we get an answer? I'm genuinely curious as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 02:48 AM
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The gym has since apologized, but reiterates its dress-code policy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:58 PM
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Nowhere does it say that this man was accused of sexual assault for wearing a speedo to a gym pool 11 years ago. Also worth noting that the gym apparently had a dress code policy. That's nothing more than a stupid incident, it's not indicative of any of your points.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:54 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 09:52 PM
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We're complaining that women get to be sexy at the gym and making stuff up. A woman can even accuse a man of SA if he wears the same tight or revealing gym outfit as her, simply because it makes her uncomfortable. Like seriously, what the fuck is going on? If a man wears a sports bra or leggings, he's damn near going to have the anti trans angry mob chasing after them. I have no clue what you're on about here. I don't wear women's clothes so of course my counter won't be direct as cross dressing…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 09:39 PM
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I really think women are just living their lives and don't see the world like you all do. To them, your "pump and dump" "oblivious to the dynamic" etc. etc. is simply see hot guy, want to fuck him, fuck him, next. Sure there'll be heartbreak but that's just part of being human. There'll also be "that hot guy bad at sex, hope he doesn't hit me up again." All seems fine imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 10:08 PM
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You wouldn't even be able to convince if I weren't "woke" like back when I was a teen and less educated, not better read for example. Help me understand why should we make our women less happy to appease you? What benefits do we gain by losing out on happy women so that non-western men can feel better about themselves? And does that risk outweigh the benefits of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 08:38 PM
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In no world are we picking you over our women, get a grip lmao. You're essentially arguing that we should let women get away with less for the sake of non-western men's feelings. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 08:08 PM
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Yes bro, it's just an example to drive my point home in agreement to the comment I'm replying to, no implication that they're holding back tears living in broken homes whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:38 AM
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men raging on other men for having what they want. It's this. Look on any social media post from a man loving his woman and all you'll see is "simp" "she's gonna cheat" "dancing monkey" comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:02 AM
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No, I'm talking general compatibility. Theres men who've also lost count and live vastly different lifestyles than the constantly committed relationship woman Hoe lifestyles are compatible, more so than being a hoe and stuck with a woman who's only ever been in serious relationships. Which is why I think this shouldn't be confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:37 PM
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Men just gotta stop being so susceptible to getting played. It's not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:20 PM
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I think it is a given, it's just simply knowing your partner. The concept of being so in the dark is extremely foreign to me, I don't think that changes my point at all. Women themselves say that sometimes the sleeping around and sexually adventurous stuff is just a phase and you're not owed any of those activities they may have tried with men in the past. Like ok, you're a hoe, she's a hoe but she feels like this and you know it then you two obviously aren't compatible as in my original comment…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 06:06 PM
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Better compatibility. I don't see how this could be confusing. Theres men who've also lost count and live vastly different lifestyles than the constantly committed relationship woman. I have a friend who just got engaged. According to men here, it should've never happened, she's slept with everybody. I've actually only ever hung around them as a couple on weekends in clubs. He and I follow some of the same women on instagram, I'm sure we've shared past partners. I have no reason to believe that …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 05:42 PM
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Basically, none of these guys have a talent, passion or a hobby that's not being online or playing video games. Yeah, this doesn't seem like the average man imo. While all dudes I know, myself included, love video games, not having any talent, passion, or other hobbies seems to fall under below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:35 PM
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It’s just not true. For your question to work, all women would have to “fuck up” in every single instance. Given that’s not how sex happens every single time, it’s not unreasonable that those men believe that it doesn’t get any hotter than them. Only one saying otherwise is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 01:12 AM
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I think about the boyfriends of the women that I’ve hooked up with and how it eats away at them. Not really, but your scientific evidence isn’t true. I’m answering for the sake of the question. I feel like it’d be easy to handle if you were content with your own sex history.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:32 AM
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Is this really an issue if women are “sharing” men? If there’s one guy who’s fucking all of your crushes casually, that leaves your crushes with a whopping count of 1. Obviously I’m being facetious in that example but I think the point still stands. If you believe that women are sharing men and only a few get access to casual sex, then you shouldn’t have anything to worry about. I don’t see how you can be worried about high numbers if so few men are getting fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 08:58 PM
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Not a big deal. Sex is just sex in my opinion. It can mean more but it doesn’t have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 06:42 PM
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Dads. We need more active and present fathers who love their sons. Too many have neglected their responsibilities and the result we see is a bunch of grown men with daddy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:02 PM
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Do we really have to pretend that dudes wouldn't hear "it's small" if they were told "I love your average dick!" Come on. Sure, there's nothing wrong with being average but you know damn well dudes would lose their shit if women were calling their dicks average and not big. It's not the commenter who believes calling someone average is bad, it'd be the person being told their average that believes it's bad.n
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:12 PM
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As an actual nonchalant person, I agree. I don't get the obsession.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 04:36 PM
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No. Women should have high standards. Everyone should in my opinion. As for sex, I don't see anything wrong with a little effort. Sure just showing up is nice sometimes but I like being outside as much as women. It's nothing to treat someone to drinks or a meal before fucking. People think that isn't casual because you brought her a drink but that's stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 08:39 PM
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Another reason this topic is dumb, no one even knows their numbers for real. Talking real hoes, whether man or woman, people who have had lots of casual sex have lost track. No one's able to remember every single person that they've slept without meticulously keeping track (which I've known some people to do). I think people with sex history insecurities should have nothing to worry about if their partner is able to quantify it with an actual number. I don't care whether it's 3 or 30, if that pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 11:31 PM
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Yeah, I don't think a lot realize that some of us have dated their women counterparts lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 03:49 AM
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I have, RIP to those girls. Real shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 02:09 AM
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For real. Like literally crashing out, making their girlfriends lives hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 02:07 AM
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No it doesn't, like at all. This logic only assumes that it's reasonable to believe that it's tough for women to cross paths with good men. That does not mean there are more good women than good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:32 AM
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I think it's a common issue because good men aren't as plentiful as we think. Obviously I'm biased here but I think I qualify as good and based on observing the world around me, I simply see with my own eyes that others aren't. None of my friends struggle, they're all good too. The guys I have watched struggle, not so much. They believed they were good, sweet, kind, "have a lot of love to give" but objectively they weren't. They were typically prone to outburst because they couldn't process thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 01:08 AM
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Women aren't hard to figure out, stop acting so confused over them. "if I didn't lie you would have missed out on an incredible relationship with me." This is somebody who simply doesn't value their partner's autonomy as much as they value the status of being in a relationship. Instead of giving their partner the freedom of choice to navigate how they see fit, they prefer to force a relationship because that's what they want it. Basically "I don't want you to do what's best for you, I want you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 04:27 PM
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And based on our conversation here, you don’t know anything about confidence. Just try to see yourself as a more of a winner. All I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 04:01 AM
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Be good at sex to have confidence that you are better than others. I might be more red pilled than you. Not really but there is a self improvement aspect to it that I’m shocked anyone who claims to be so red pilled would ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:41 AM
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Our lives different. You need that type of relationship like my ex. I don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:33 AM
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Lol no I didn’t say that. Read. To the next question, you sound like my ex girlfriend. Like the girl I dated a majority of teen years and into early adulthood. That’s shit people like her care about. I don’t even know if that’s the case with women that I know. We could be fucking or dating for years and I wouldn’t be none the wiser to whether she was fantasizing about that. There’s partners I’m never going to forget. I think it’s normal to fantasize about them, even in new relationships. Gonna h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:20 AM
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Encouraging cuck behavior Wow, you're dense. Work on your sexual confidence and try seeing yourself as capable of being better at sex than other men. Nothing else to argue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:34 AM
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Impossible, any hints of positive self-image is nonexistent in these dudes. I had a friend who always saw himself as the loser too. Easily observable behavior. A woman would smile at him, possibly hinting interest in subtle ways and instead of feeling good about himself or having confidence to approach, he'd say shit like "She only wants me to approach so that she can reject me." It's a perpetual loser mindset. They can never be the winners, even in their own hypotheticals.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:07 AM
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Yeah, I'm comfortable not being the best even though I'm encouraging men to be sexually confident. Doesn't that sound dumb? Stop with these "So?" questions when the answer is right in front of you. Any other mental gymnastics is strictly to deal with this: "oh but I'm so good at fucking" lmao and any other cognitive dissonance involved. Speaks to my point on self-image. Always resort to stats but can never see themselves as that 5% for some reason. If you fucked 19, why can't being the best be p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 02:04 AM
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I think this wouldn't be a topic as much if men believed in themselves more. Positive self-image is nonexistent among this group. You'll see a lot of them say sex history matters because they want to be their girlfriend or wife's best (aside from other arguments like "pair bonding") but do you realize how lowly one has to see himself if the only way to accomplish that is by hoping and praying that she's fucked no more than 2-3 people? Think it would help if more men worked on building sex confid…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 12:11 AM
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True. Won't get any "she slept and dated around in her 20s!" arguments from me. Always thought that was normal dating, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 07:14 PM
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People are really dynamic and can't really be boxed in like this imo. All I see is just people searching for what they're looking for, naturally growing and maturing with age and learning from past life experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 07:07 PM
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Option 2 and it's not even close. Except for your caveat about not being able to sleep with other people, that's already my dating life anyway. Which kind of takes away from the realism of the scenario for me. No way I'm not sleeping with other people out of loyalty to someone who does her own thing. I respect the hell out of it, and they're right, it's not my business. But sit around twiddling my thumbs hoping that she one day falls for only me? Crazy I'm a simp, hell yeah, but I'm not a dummy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 03:45 PM
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The hookup material conversation on this sub is really fucking stupid. You either are or aren't and forcing your girlfriend or wife to lie to you isn't going to cure any insecurities about your past. If you really want to be that, just go out and do it if you can. Otherwise, get over it and accept that that's not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:19 AM
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I mean you either are or you aren't. If she's telling you that you are when you know you aren't, blatant lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:06 AM
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What happens in the unfortunate instance you and the woman who lied to you break up? Do you navigate under the false impression that you're hookup material? Gotta imagine that's not going to feel good for any guy who's single post that relationship and still not seen as hookup material even though their ex told them that they were. Brings me back to my belief that these are just empty words.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:43 PM
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Specifically what did I say that implies that validation is a bad thing? They can just tell from their actions which often seems validating enough. I even acknowledge that hookup material men also seek validation so I don't get your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:24 PM
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How is a blatant lie everything in terms of validation? Genuinely wondering. He knows he's not that. She know's he's not that but says so anyway and that's supposed to feel good?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:22 PM
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In all cases imo. Hookup material is only an accolade to men who aren't actually hookup material. They want to be told that they are even though they've never been that type of guy in their life. Anyone who's consistently had casual sex, one night stands, been the "just sex" guy isn't offended by being seen as husband material. That's part of actually being hookup material. I think it's an ego thing and true hookup material men aren't desperate for expressed validation from women. They can just …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 03:48 PM
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10/10 post. Agree through and through.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:27 AM
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Me neither. I bet I probably can't stand them more than you. Doesn't effect my point men on this sub view other men with a halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:42 PM
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Gotta agree unfortunately. I know dudes here love to see us all as precious little angels but objectively observing, the current state of modern men is kind of sad. I can look in the mirror because I'm not afraid of accountability and see where I contribute. Ego driven behavior especially, I've never thought less than of myself, even as a kid, and it's contributed to some bad shit that's affected other people in adulthood. That said, very extreme thought experiment lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:33 PM
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It's not that deep for me. If we're cool and get along well, you're my friend. Women included. I don't need a whole a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:49 AM
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Absolutely. Meanwhile you got dudes going on dates pretending to be everything but themselves. If I'm being straight up and my genuine self and she doesn't like me, no harm no foul but that's on her, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 01:47 AM
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Agreed for the most part but I still think it's a boring ass topic that I'm not really interested in discussing on dating apps. I get that people love their careers but unfortunately I'm not one of those people and I don't feel like always talking about work. I don't respond to "So what do you do for work?" messages, it's usually a sign that their work is their personality, which is fine, just not for me. But if she only asks you to buy her some food, or traveling together, that means she just w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 05:45 PM
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You don’t have an opinion. You’re just misusing a word in a bad attempt to insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:59 PM
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Stop using words that you don’t know the definition of.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:16 PM
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No argument here chief, I’m a simp and feel things like love for the cow. No bestiality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:30 AM
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No, I don’t think I have low libido. I just think that’s juvenile. It’s not that I see your quote as a compliment, maybe more something I can empathize with. I said boyfriend material was a compliment and your quote isn’t really an accurate representation of that, just some hypothetical. So in that case, yeah I could empathize there because I think it could go both ways and I could feel the same. Just goes back to my belief that not every connection is going to be the same. Has nothing to do wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:20 AM
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Interesting to now know. I don’t think it’s a red pill conspiracy, I just think the concept of hookup material is silly. Now knowing it dates that far back is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:11 AM
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I see your point. But only because I think women who only date marry are insufferable, I’ve been in relationships with them and told by them that’s the only way to date. I think it speaks to how we’re all better off sticking to our types.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:57 AM
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Does that really make sense to you? I’m not getting that nonsense through my head. But that may be our disconnect. That’s not my approach to relationships. I would never tell my girlfriend that because I’m not cheap. Hoes are practically girlfriends, even if just for the night. Equal treatment across the board. I kind of see that y’all issue is with what you perceive to be unfair treatment though. You want to go first and feel as special as the other but I don’t know exactly what to say to that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:50 AM
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I don’t think that’s true. I’m exceptionally attune to social cues. I think more men may use your definition but I’m not convinced on beta bucks when hearing that someone would practically be honored to by my romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:33 AM
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I’ve only known my implication to be the case. Never had someone compliment me as boyfriend material then demand or expect beta bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:16 AM
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That's your takeaway of the entire thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:04 AM
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First, let's stop pretending about Steph. You're insinuating he's not a player. Based on his killer instinct on the court and personal stories I've heard from interactions with him from fans of his, close friends of mine, I find it hard to believe that he's some loser sitting at home while his wife gets fucked. Dude is cold blooded (part of why I think he's who he is but that's a hoops talk for later). I'd rather be Steph than Drake. Husband material, open marriage as opposed to no consistent re…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:03 AM
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"Not hot or exciting... but stable, dependable, resource-rich and socially acceptable." I can see why that would be the case in the 18th century. However, I'm not going to not feel hot or exciting when someone calls me husband material in 2025. I know I am. I'm not dating Jane Austen
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:57 AM
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What's a real measure of this? I'll meet women that I really like and have no clue what they've done in the past. I know what I've done though so I fail to see how it really matters. Like ok, you didn't hookup with your future wife on the first date, ok. But surely you have plenty others right? Shouldn't matter imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:54 AM
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I don't think so. I think it just proves high levels of insecurities about their pasts. Boyfriend dick shouldn't get you tight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:52 AM
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Drake, a multi award winning musical artists who makes millions. I don't think this is a real measure of things. Far too unobtainable for most men to represent hookup material as it's talked about on this sub. Also stephen curry’s wife is here, I’ll let you do the thinking. Don't they have an open marriage? He's in the nba. Not sure if you've ever heard anecdotes about dudes in the league but it's not like he's a single dad raising their kids with a cheating wife. Even if their marriage isn't op…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:51 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:46 AM
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Agreed. Just using both interchangeably for the sake of the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:46 AM
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Fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:45 AM
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I think attraction is way too dynamic for this. What women are being asked? What's their values and beliefs? What type of men do they like? Does ethnicity play a factor? Questions can go on and on. Because I'm black. Surely non-black men who haven't had casual sex can appeal to high quantities of women who's type I don't fit regardless of my past.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:44 AM
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I don’t. When I hear it, all I hear is “you’re a really good option” Which I’ve always known. So I’d hear it in my earlier 20s and still not be phased. To be fair to the counter point, I’ve never heard it expressed as I wouldn’t have hooked up with you. But with that, I know women have a lot of hang ups and fears, etc. because of society etc. so I’d least try to understand because I know how women are scared of being perceived.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:37 AM
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I don’t think feminism makes a difference. Boyfriend material isn’t a good thing because of feminism? That doesn’t make sense logically to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:33 AM
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Ok but you're asking why women should want to sleep with me. My response is basically I don't know and I don't ever feel like I have to prove myself. Either they want to or don't. I don't have to convince anyone by offering anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 06:41 PM
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I don't know, I've never asked whether there is a reason or convinced anyone by explicitly offering anything. They just do it, assumingely because they simply wanted to and that can be for any reason, most likely because they thought I was hot. But i'm not out here like "sleep with me, I offer attraction."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 05:42 PM
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Nope, one either wants to or doesn't. It's sex in the most casual instance, neither side is offering nothing more than that. Inb4 "you're bad at sex" lol no.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 03:24 PM
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I don't offer anything. A woman either wants to have casual sex or she doesn't. If she doesn't want to, it's totally fine. You shouldn't try to convince your way into sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:16 PM
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We got too many grown men pretending to be on “demon time” after getting played.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 11:42 PM
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What exactly is less effort? For me, I'm not in my 20s anymore. I don't feel like I need to go after every single opportunity because she's pretty and looked at me nice. I'm tired lol, dating has been a process since I was a teenager. I think I'm just a bit more refined in how I navigate life and dating at this point. I know my types, and what I like and need.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:36 PM
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they shifted their focus from pro worker, anti war, This did not happen. woke non-sense. Turned of because they believe in actual freedom, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 07:09 PM
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The girl you have a crush on had sex... This isn't a real issue lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 07:06 PM
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Me described in less than 20 words: Better than you. Lmao rule 2 here is be civil/no personal attacks but obviously I've struck some nerve that made you reply insultingly. You should learn how to regulate your little emotions so that you're better able to participate here and reply to things that you disagree without being so soft.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:18 PM
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Anyone who doesn't is actually telling on themselves lmao 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:11 PM
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never employed an ounce of critical thought in developing your “principles” is hilarious. And yet I have extensive educational accolades from which some principles were shaped that says completely otherwise. But sure no critical thought, lol y'all are hilarious on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 05:01 PM
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The left didn't lose anything. Men who were going to end up that way were going to regardless. The cultures and social environments they were born into doesn't/didn't allow for growth outside of their norms. The hypothetical young man who was born and raised in small to mid sized town in Nowhere USA where Christianity reigns supreme was never going to be won by the left. Compared to someone like me, born and raised in a big city, sensible parents who didn't push religion, taught ht strict accoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 04:26 PM
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Where is the left accepting of incels? Lol As a member, I’m finding it hard to believe any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 12:10 AM
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I love modern women and I pay for everything. What’s really insufferable is people who just can’t be normal. I pay because I like the women that I meet. I can’t do trade offs. If there’s expectations because of her beauty routine, etc. that shits weird and she’s no different than a red pill man. I’m good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:04 AM
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I disagree, I rather work harder for myself than for women, which I already do and have always done. I knew early that women would undoubtedly be there once success was there as an adult. It was the same as a teenager, you work hard to get accolades athletically and academically, girls were gonna like you as natural result. I think it’s better to do it for yourself first, women will gravitate naturally as a consolation. Not saying that women are a consolation prize, women liking you in the moder…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 12:03 AM
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I feel you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:26 PM
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Who’s mocking anyone? These are generally used words here that are commonly understood based on context.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:25 PM
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I don’t think this is impacted by whether she could go to someone else. While she could, it’s not like those women who are off the deep end aren’t struggling. They’re often rejected by normal competent men, again they’re crazy, and they don’t mesh well with their manosphere equivalents.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:22 PM
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I mean, same with excluding women. The reactions aren’t positive there either. To a far less extent though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:17 PM
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It’s just how things are generally talked about on this sub. Of course shit happens, but for the sake of the point and how things are talked about here, it’s the word I’m going with. Relax.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:14 PM
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Me either honestly. I’m sorry but except for reasonable circumstances, I think you’re unfortunately one of the bad options if you have zero prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 04:57 AM
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Nope, you begged for an answer to your question of whether you all are crazy. An ad hominem would be an attack against you all personally. This wasn't that. This isn't about putting yourself first, OP's own words most men should always treat their woman as second and never first. Treat her as if shes there to serve you not the other way around. Crazy and weird as hell. But sure, logic etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:44 PM
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Yeah but that simply doesn't apply to red pill, you all sound more akin to possible sociopathic crazy than scientific hypothesis crazy in an ancient world. Not a personal attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:34 PM
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What more can I say? Within the bounds of the rules of the sub, yes, you all sound like mad men incapable of basic relationships. regurgitate To this point, a lot of you here always act like others don't know people like you in real life and hear these "truths" from dudes that we know personally. I've heard stuff like this post in particular countless times especially. Result's the same, you all are crazy, but you gotta pretend like you're on to something logical to win imaginary dating world ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:08 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 03:35 AM
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I've passed on women that I'd probably still be with today because I haven't been relationship ready and prefer to stay single. So in a sense, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 02:49 AM
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It’s not that it’s invalid, it’s that you genuinely sound crazy advising that people put their girlfriend second. Again, not a personal attack but an observation that’s on brand red pill. That type of advice isn’t saving anyone or waking them up to any “truths”, it’s making them incapable of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:30 PM
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Your experiences don’t equate good advice and your theories aren’t universal. It’s crazy to tell people to treat their partner 2nd because what you went through.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:15 PM
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This isn’t a personal attack but so many of you are simply incapable of normal relationships and having normal feelings. You view dating and sex through a lens that doesn’t allow to simply be normal. Years of frying your brains with red pill “truths” has stripped away any sense of basic ethics, consideration and maturity. You’re on defense 24/7 about anything women related because you lack so much confidence that bad experiences you faced as a teen will haunt you forever. It’s unequivocally craz…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:10 PM
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No counter argument from me, it’s your life. But these type of beliefs and the way a lot of you guys act is simply why women prefer other men over the lot who are invisible to them. I’m not a fighter, will likely never get into one during the rest of my life. But I don’t see the point in dating someone that I don’t care enough about to the extent that you believe is fine. I’m sure you’ll have people agree but y’all sound crazy. So much of an issue with “societal standards” and “equality” that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:05 PM
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shouldn’t be able to do that for free. Our existence isn’t commodified to the extent that makes it logically reasonable to expect a price in exchange for gaze in a public space. Let alone, a huge city like NYC. To the point of imagining whether it was my daughter, sister. I would never tell them to cover up. I don’t have that overprotectiveness that wouldn’t allow my daughter to date or be jealous of anyone who looks at my sister.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:33 AM
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That’s the only way you get to cosplay a logical strategic red pill guy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:34 PM
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No, you don’t get to turn something as normal as believing kids should be fed into blue pill cape wearing hero for other men’s kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:19 PM
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You further prove my point. Not being ok with children dying is simply human and paying taxes is legally required. But to you, not being ok with children dying has to be framed as blue pill hero wearing a cape for other men’s children in order to feel like you’ve concocted some sex strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:05 PM
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This is stupid for 2 reasons. Women aren't even fucking a lot of y'all like that. You have to forcefully characterize a legal requirement, paying taxes, as cheerfully cleaning up sloppy seconds. Because of that, none of this works. Not a sensible strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:43 PM
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What exactly do you want to hear? Our views are shaped by our experiences. I think being single is perfectly fine and shouldn’t be a problem. Do you really need to know how my views got shaped like this? Because that would be dunking imo and there’s no reason for that when making points here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 09:44 PM
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Do you guys ever consider the men who already live in those countries? Y’all invade their space, thirsting bad after their women because you can’t pull your own at home, over-saturating their market. Thats one of my issues with passport bro culture. Happiness aside, y’all are a nuisance on other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:41 PM
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Well that would require it to actually be their issues. They’re mad about something they saw online that happened to somebody else and accepted that other man’s grievance as their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:29 AM
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Michael Jackson syndrome. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:44 PM
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This doesn’t make any sense. Not a woman but am progressive. I’m not any less progressive for not being interested in the high school dropout with no upward mobility in her adult life. Someone’s social class doesn’t tell who they are as a person but that doesn’t mean you have to date what you’re not compatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:16 PM
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Ok stay a kid then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:03 PM
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You explain how throughout your post and comments. The “love” you experience as a teen is nothing more than a product of your current place in life. You’re a high schooler, of course standards are low. As adults, it’s only natural that everything changes upon aging. Yes, we to need to lead an adult-like lives to sustain across several facets of life like dating, career, etc. But that doesn’t mean you’re not loved the same because you can’t be a bum like when you were 16. No offense but your ass …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:17 PM
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That’s my dawg. Don’t need red pill when you have a good dad. Married to my mom for 30+ years. Hardworking. Supportive. Proud.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:06 PM
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Duh, that’s part of being an adult. You don’t get to be a kid forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:03 PM
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Teen love isn’t true love. The love you experience as an adult doesn’t even come close, it’s far better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:56 PM
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Female attention is valuable, sure, but it’s not rare. I’d be happier single pursuing others rather than staying with someone who cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 09:25 PM
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No, you don't get it. None of this applies to you if you couldn't fuck hotter. You're playing in your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:08 PM
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You're still settling. You're lying to yourself thinking you're not because you'd never date or marry them. They're below your standards, you fucked them when you could have better, you settled. No points missed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:55 PM
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Disagree. I expect certain treatment because it's what I'm used to. I'm well within my right to reject someone for not meeting my expectations. I never say shit like "I want the same treatment as Chad." I think that's lame. But if I'm used to a certain level of treatment, I deserve it. And if I don't get it, no harm no foul, I simply continue to pursue others who give me what I deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:48 PM
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Nope. They were relationships, not situationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 12:20 AM
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I think this trope is overplayed. Attractive men don’t have to settle for women they aren’t attracted to as much as we like to believe. Out of a sea of people you’ve had sex with, sure some won’t be your usual types but that can be expected when a person has had a lot of partners. Doesn’t mean it’s happening to such an extent that this is a common experience for those women. I live in a big city too, to me, women seem to be more jaded with expectations that stem from their previous boyfriends, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 11:34 PM
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Ok, can’t relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:10 PM
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Most men with these problems are too scared to even make a first move and they blame it on shit like me too. Let’s stop this nonsense. Fucking someone before taking them out on a date requires prowess that a lot of men don’t have. As this often puts it, 80% of men can’t get laid. If you’re the type of guy who gets breadcrumbed for weeks, texted back hours at a time, continuing to go on dates is your best bet. You’re not the hookup immediately type.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:07 PM
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Nothing crazy about it. Somewhere along the way, someone convince you that sex is this bad scary thing, even with condoms. That didn’t happen for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:56 PM
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Sex has consequences. Reasonable people take measure to minimize the risks of said consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 07:03 PM
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People like sex and want it casually and easily accessible. Is that hard to figure out? Casual sex is not rare and does not have to be compared to sex in long term relationships. It’s a perfectly normal occurrence and nobody is less than for seeking it out. Crying about not getting it all the time however is pretty annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 05:54 PM
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They leave the country and still never pull. The men native to the countries are still more preferable to the women that live there. And regardless, attractiveness is attractive regardless of location. A passport bro will go to the DR and still be drowned out by attractive American men no different from home. It’s not a winning strategy. Nobody should be a passport bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:20 PM
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I disagree, but only because I don’t believe that men who get outraged over this stuff are actually affected. I don’t think women gossip about them. This sub for example, tons of men admit to being “invisible”, they don’t have hookups, they don’t lie to women or do fuck boy shit. They’re aggrieved over Tea on behalf of other men who do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:25 AM
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No. I’m non-monogamous but a dynamic like this wouldn’t work for me. I think sex is just sex but sex with emotional attachment with someone you love means more. Sex with other women wouldn’t be the same as the person I’m in a relationship with so I’d still be missing out on my partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 09:53 PM
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No it’s not. Red pill is about discovering “truths” and living according to their new discoveries. Are we dating the same guy groups are just Facebook gossip groups. They’re not in their talking about strategies or theories, they’re just gossiping about men, something they always do anyway whether on social media or in person. You’re overthinking and over analyzing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 06:06 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:30 PM
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No, women aren’t overlooking good men. Genuinely good men exist in droves and are treated accordingly as good options. “Good” men who are practically invisible likely aren’t as good as they believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 03:21 PM
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No, discern like a reasonable reader. I mean, you’re replying to a comment where I say “I’m not making the claim for all women” replying with “you’re making an argument that all women are amazing” despite me saying that’s not the case. Even if you initially don’t know that I’m not making the claim that all women are amazing, there should be no confusion after seeing me clarify, like you say I should do, to another commenter with your same issue. Yes this sub has its extremes, but a lot of you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:13 AM
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This sort of logic is stupid for 2 reasons. You’re not incapable of discerning literalness. You know this doesn’t mean “all women are amazing” unless I explicitly declare that. You don’t need a disclaimer for your brain to process that this doesn’t apply to all women because it already goes without saying. This isn’t how clarification works.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 11:11 PM
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I did, you have to either catch up or stop being purposefully obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:07 AM
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Reflect on your own experience and ask how do you see the words “women are amazing.” and fail to see how it’s implicit that this does not apply to all women. Like, I’m sure my experiences with bad girlfriends have been far worse than yours. I see “women are amazing” and I go “hmph I agree, my experiences with bad ones don’t dispel that, however it goes without saying, they exist.” This elementary school level of reading comprehension you people are trying to pull has to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:55 AM
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No, you don’t lol. You mistake implications where there are none to force your point because it’s the only way your complaining works. Like I can dispel your accusations by clearing up, yet you’ll still push your misrepresentation because it’s the only way that you can pretend in that I’m saying this applies to all, therefore you must be right, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:39 AM
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Your rebuttal relies on your purposeful misrepresentation of my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:31 AM
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Nope, would have said all women if I meant all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:29 AM
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Someone said that they don’t value emotional support, therefore they disagree on the conclusion. I mean, it can really be as simple as that, we don’t have to keep playing pretend here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:26 PM
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Be a little less emotional with the name calling and let’s not make things personal. No, these aren’t generalizations. It’s not about billions of women. I provide points and reasonings why I believe my claim. Yes, that can be debated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:18 PM
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No, because in debate, you often counter-argue points and reasoning. No shame if that’s not worth it, but again, this is a forum so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:15 PM
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I relate to this. I’ll even admit, I don’t like a lot of women in my family for this reason. I get it from some though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:09 PM
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Jumping in because this type of accusatory behavior is ridiculously juvenile. There is no indirect putting down of men. In debate, you present a topic. You provide points, you provide reasoning to strengthen your point. You reach a conclusion. In debate, you don’t see a topic, arguments and conclusion and misrepresent the framework of the topic by implying things that aren’t present. I could make this same post about men but with different reasoning because again, it’s debate. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:07 PM
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No, I didn’t. I made a claim and used reasoning to support said claim. In no way does that devalue or undermine similar actions by men. We really have to stop reading and comprehending things like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:02 PM
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Let’s not make things personal. Debate me on the merits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:00 PM
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Sassy ass. Good debate bro
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:59 PM
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What is there not to understand? I provide a topic, I offer 3 points for why I feel that way , I provide reasoning to support and I make a conclusion. There's ample room to counter-argue for anyone who disagrees. > I would argue that everything you listed comes from people you care about and that care about you. Yes, all the good feels listed typically come from people you care about and that care about you but that doesn't dispel my viewpoint. I don't expect to reap benefits from women who I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:59 PM
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No, I'll spell it out. My points boil down "I appreciate women because I value these particular things." Counter arguments can range, there's even one in the thread where someone states emotional support isn't something they value, therefore reaching a different conclusion. You could argue that validation induces shallowness, you could argue how it affects ego and how that could be detrimental. You could argue that companionship is draining, the effort is require can be mismatched. "people are g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:52 PM
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What’s the point of debating generalized topics on a debate forum?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:39 PM
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Yes, sure. You can’t claim a 2 year dry spell then pretend that’s normal for everyone else to make your point simply because you disagree with my point. Weak argument from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:37 PM
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I disagree on rarity. > Were you raised with a strong father or male role models? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:25 PM
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Yes, I have an opinion backed by reasoning. How does that automatically imply that the reverse is also not true?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:23 PM
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My satisfaction exceeds yours, my feelings remain the same. This is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:20 PM
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> I wouldn't just say all women are born amazing. We have to stop doing this. No one would say that and that's not what I'm claiming here but you're using that misrepresentation for the crux of your points that are contingent on what ifs and whether the woman sucks so now we're covering what's obvious. Like it goes without saying that emotional support wouldn't apply to women who get the ick from you crying or lack of validation after 9 rejections. But that stuff is irrelevant in a framework whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:14 PM
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Strong counter arguments are usually made within the topic’s framework in debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:20 PM
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Nope, rules 1 and 2. I don’t have to white knight lol. I’m not missing the debate, my topic isn’t associated with men struggling to meet and pair up. Yes that’s a point of contention on this sub but as I said, my topic is in response to claims that’s the reverse is objectively true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:14 PM
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You could argue something like validation is worthless for a stronger rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:08 PM
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Not making the claim for all women, I think it goes without saying that a bunch are terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:52 PM
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You have a topic, 3 points with brief reasoning and a conclusion. Yes, that’s a debate. You have ample room to counter argue on the merits of any or all 3 points that you disagree with, you just have to articulate how.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:51 PM
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I can’t fathom why anyone wouldn’t need emotional support. We human, we experience all kinds of shit that affects our emotion. But that being your stance is a fair counter argument with clear reasoning. You don’t need it, therefore you don’t agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:49 PM
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I want a counter argument, this one doesn’t make much sense to me. I think you’re wrong about me confusing list with love.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:47 PM
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You got a topic, 3 points with brief arguments and a conclusion. It’s a debate lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:44 PM
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I don’t think anything here implies that’s not the case. Debate topics don’t really work like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:43 PM
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I’m not making the claim that every woman is amazing. I think that goes without saying. To the point that it takes one woman, I think falling to the extreme is a cop out. The first girl I ever dated seriously in my life that spanned from teen adolescence to early adulthood was the worst. That ends and you meet others and realize that not every single one is going to put you through the wringer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:43 PM
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This is a debate forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 06:36 PM
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There’s not shit that a fictional character has on me. I addressed the comparison aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:50 PM
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Disagree, I just personally feel so much more secure than that. There’s not shit that a fictional character has on me. I agree that parasocial relationships are bad. I think it induces cult like behavior, especially with celebrities but my issue is not with the character or celebrity, it’s with the odd behavior. If my girl enjoys her game or like a celebrity, I don’t really care. But if she’s weird about it, we won’t be together.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:52 PM
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No. Same way every woman shouldn’t be given a chance. This type of point of view stems from a lack of understanding rejection. (Non “average”) Men and women share experiences and any man who can relate to what women go through with men by way of dating other women should not be anti-rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:37 PM
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Nope, not true, still have to learn regardless of looks. You hit puberty in middle school and think the rush of new feelings and experiences come natural when girls start to like you? No, that's a learning experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:59 PM
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Where does it say that's against the rules?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:17 PM
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At what point do we let go the idea that any guy who gets the girl is a "badboy"? The way you all describe dynamics is strange. Being hot and getting the girl doesn't make you bad, that's just simply knowing game and using your looks to your advantage. There's nothing wrong with that. Where "average guys" go wrong often times is sucking at the game. You don't kiss on the 1st date because you're awkward about it and scared. Which is also cool, we've all been there and had to learn. A lot of y'all…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:57 PM
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Well yeah, I’m obviously being facetious, John Wick would likely be able to stop a robbery. Your boyfriend on the other hand is delusional and lying to you. He has you sold too, like I bet y’all probably get into fights with security outside of bars. He probably couldn’t even take most men on this sub and that’s crazy. Myself excluded though, I don’t fight. Definitely not doing the beating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 05:11 AM
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Yup. Type of dude that tries to fight you for accidentally bumping into him because he’s in “survival mode” lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:50 AM
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You read lol, the fact that he does not think every man is a danger does not take away from my point that your boyfriend is selling you falsehoods. Otherwise, you got me there 🤓☝️, fuck. She gets robbed, I’m definitely not pretending to be John Wick. Life not some action movie but y’all have fun with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:48 AM
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You dating John Wick? Lmao wtf? Always be aware of your surroundings, absolutely. But so in survival mode he can’t be in public or meet new dudes without being weird about it? I think your boyfriend is selling you falsehoods about men. I’m sure a lot of men on this sub can relate to encountering men like him though who thinks every other man is a danger. They often exude very weird and aggressive behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:24 AM
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I think initiating is still choosing. Regardless of rejection, you’re still choosing that person. In success, it’s more so a case of choosing each other rather than one choosing the other imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 01:21 AM
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This is how it’s always been. People on this sub come up with theories only to explain what’s already the norm lol. Even in the “old world”, you’d approach briefly, expect engagement in return, get nothing, move on. None of this is new, I’m sorry. In successful cases, it’s never been approach, initiate, entertain, and continuously move things forward. There’s always been ping pong serve and return when she’s interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:25 PM
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I think they get little attention from good options and overwhelming attention from bad options. I see this from people who I’m friend with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:19 AM
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That’s just not true. Sexual compatibility is a real thing. You know when it’s there and you know when it isn’t. It’s crazy to imply that bad sex is avoidable by way of communication. You can tell someone you like a certain sex act, they do it, and their way of doing it doesn’t hit the way you like. That’s a sexual incompatibility. You can’t say you didn’t assert yourself in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 02:41 AM
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Point still stands though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 06:13 PM
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Which I would do, so yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 05:55 PM
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Me and my friends go to strip clubs lmao. I’d be a hypocrite if I wasn’t comfortable with that. I try to extend people the same grace that they give me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 05:38 PM
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I think you can choose men you like and want without catering to other men’s feelings. Like seriously, who cares what a bunch of people with bad dating lives think? They’re all just miserable and angry. I look and apply my own life and experiences, I think “choosing better” is vital. I think women should be able to do it no different than I can, free of ridicule. I go on my gut feelings for filtering women. But no one goes on about me being psychic or a mind reader. You just simply know how to n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:16 PM
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I don’t think anybody’s sharing anybody. I think it’s normal for both men and women to date and fuck a lot of people and just because the woman you’re dating or fucking has dated and fucked other people doesn’t mean you’re sharing her with anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:06 PM
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Different strokes. 80% isn’t worth it to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:55 PM
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You’re projecting. I’d just die single.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:54 PM
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Yup. 100% or nothing for me. Don’t ever want to be one of those dudes stuck in a miserable marriage that they regret with someone they don’t love like that, wondering how better off I’d be with the 100% option over the 80% option.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:00 PM
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Attractive Cool Progressive Has to be a girl’s girl I would never tell potential dates this. Puts pressure on them to conform to my likes and needs and I don’t want anybody to feel like that. If somebody sent me their list of requirements before a date, I’m ghosting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:02 PM
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Every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:20 PM
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Fuck no. Been there, done that. It’s hell. You’re their entire life. They have little to no friends. They see time spent apart as damage to the relationship. They have trust issues. The list goes on. I can’t believe anyone over the age of 20 hasn’t learned that this type of dating is extremely unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:53 PM
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I don’t think so. I think it makes you kind of slow if you can’t but to be fair, I studied this type of stuff in undergrad so I’m a bit biased. At the same time though, I know dudes who studied the same stuff as I did who still can’t connect the dots. So that’s part of the reason for my stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:48 PM
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I only swipe right on 4 5and 6. 1 2 and 3 are low key signs that she’s insufferable. Dating apps to me are just a causal way to meet people, I think these type of bios are small tells that she takes dating way too seriously and that we’re incompatible. Especially the “KNOWS WHAT HE WANTS” That’s pressure inducing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:10 PM
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This isn’t reality. It’s actually miserable to date people who are like this. Obsession is unhealthy and you’re completely mistaken on its realities. It’s not blind devotion. It’s watching and analyzing your every move, demanding unfettered access to your privacy, wanting to go through your phone. The list goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:33 PM
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Women have good personalities, they just don’t know how to pull women. I don’t even understand why you all expect for them to have all the answers on this. Straight women spend 0 time pursuing other women but you expect them to teach you how to pull based on what works on them? That’s dumb. Stop burdening them with expectations to have all the answers and learn for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 01:20 AM
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No, I’m prejudiced.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:22 AM
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Lol in an effort to actually answer, I think it’s because they actually hate women. I can be pretty misogynistic but what I always hear from women is that I don’t actually hate them. A lot of dudes see women as their actual adversaries, in my case, it’s that I called women bitches or judged a woman for something like being traditional stay at home etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:07 AM
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I think so. Dating apps have been the easiest most convenient way to meet new people imo for the last 10 years. I think there’s still a stigma about being on them but where I live everyone is on them, so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:54 PM
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A lot of the people that want to date me aren’t black so I think being apolitical is a bad thing. You can’t like me and have “no opinion” on my existence and the politics that affect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:01 PM
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Can’t do it, sounds miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 03:29 PM
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No, that shit sound weird as hell. Imagine dating someone that can’t say “I love you” lol wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 03:09 PM
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I don’t think it’s messed up, I don’t ever feel like they’re talking about me when they say that men are bad. I rather them feel validated in their traumas rather take personal offense. I also don’t get why it matters if she found the other guy very attractive. Chances are she’s also very attracted to me, so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:15 PM
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Oh yeah, most insufferable kind of people I swear.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:45 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:33 PM
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Lmao I wouldn’t say all that now
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:33 PM
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Yeah, absolutely. That’s what friends are for. I’ll even pay for my friend’s friends. Good times matter way more than the values we attach to spending money. I don’t associate with “know my value” people though. They take life way too seriously, their rules and views on everything are incompatible with how I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:12 PM
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Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:45 PM
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As a man with a nose ring, no. No truth at all. Trauma isn’t my personality. It’s literally just an aesthetic and women think it’s sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:41 PM
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This is unconvincing. I don’t think dating at 30s looks anything like this. For example, you don’t have to wait 10 years. Tons of people have already experienced failed marriages in their 30s. Y’all view dating through lenses absent of any nuance, the conclusions you all express prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:38 PM
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I don’t think they should be illegal but I absolutely will judge people for dating like this. Like yeah, be 30 and date an 18 year old if you want but that doesn’t mean I can’t think you’re a loser for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:51 PM
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Yeah, way different from a courtesy smile.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:47 PM
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If we’re looking and smiling at each other, I gotta assume the onus is on me to make the move which is fine. Other than that I don’t think there is a way to signal. When a woman approaches me, chances are we haven’t made eye contact or stood by each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:51 PM
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I don’t believe many are capable of struggling in their 20s to see success in their 30s so I don’t see how that’d be best.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:20 PM
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I don’t think this is moralizing or punching down on incels, I don’t even know any to base this off of. I’m just pointing out 2 issues that I observe in struggling dudes who want casual sex. They’re also surrounded by women they love like grandmothers, mothers, aunts, etc. but I don’t think that means they love the hoes because I see how they act in regard to them. I provide examples in my post, we’re not talking about simply being shitty to women, you can love the hoes and still ghost, play the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:17 PM
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From what I’m observing as I hit 30, I think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:47 PM
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I don’t think a lot do. They may like the idea of them but I don’t think they love them. The type of behavior makes it seem like they despise them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:46 PM
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Me neither but I’m not talking about stereotypical incels here. You can be a regular dude and still struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:41 PM
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Hot who post proactive pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:58 PM
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I think it’d help if dudes stopped being delusional about meeting the criteria. I’ve known men to describe to themselves as good for having a good heart, being kind, loving and disciplined and then you observe them with women and see that they’re none of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:14 PM
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This is woefully untrue lmao. Modern men have little to no concept of accountability whatsoever. We see a lot of dude’s inability to problem solve and think critically nearly daily in all facets of life. If a majority of dudes were really capable of putting on their thinking caps and taking responsibility, they’d be able to solve every problem from their finances to lack of causal sex. Instead, we see women blamed for all of their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:58 PM
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No they aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:33 PM
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Not a yes or no question, I want to know how hookup culture looked if it was everywhere in the 80s and 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:25 PM
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How was hookup culture everywhere in the 80s and 90s compared to now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:27 PM
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Hookup culture is alive and well. People are still very much participating in social functions with the goal of hooking up with new people. You can go on any vacation to a resort, any club on the weekend, any major city and see that it’s not dead. People love casual sex. They want to pursue it. They’re getting it. Hookup culture is not ruining dating but it’s certainly not dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 08:55 PM
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Can’t imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:53 PM
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It’s worth it, a lot of y’all just don’t like life. These types of takes are reflective of people who are incapable of experiencing any kind of joy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:55 AM
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Nobody that I date requires me to do that so it’s not even an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:30 AM
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To me, it’s any standard I don’t want to meet. I don’t think it’s unattainable for them, I just think it’s unreasonable to approach me with those expectations. For example, I get approached by women that says things like they need a man who makes them secure in their femininity or they want a guy who’s reserved and not outside often. I can’t provide either of those, I don’t do gender roles and I like going out. Therefore expecting stricter standards for me is unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:01 AM
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That makes it even worse. You talk to women and argue points as if you’ve never met one. You hear this shit from your friends and the women you date and the only thing you can see is life on easy mode. Thats crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:29 PM
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So many of these type of arguments are rooted in misconceptions that I think you genuinely have to ask, have any of you ever actually met a woman? I mean, y’all talk as if you have it all figured out and then say things that makes it seem as if you’ve never had a woman actually get deep with you about their childhood upbringings, professional struggles, traumas, etc. You think they live on easy mode but a lot of you go days, even weeks, without even talking to a woman. You don’t have any of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:55 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:28 PM
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Fundamentally misunderstanding what woke actually means is why none of you people can actually grasp what you’re talking about and reach such silly conclusions. Woke never went anywhere and never will. Marginalized groups will always promote knowledge related to their struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 02:09 PM
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I think some do. I see two sides to the issue. On one hand, the male loneliness epidemic dudes that I know biggest problem is that they can’t get multiple hot women to have casual sex with them. That’s been their goal since college and they haven’t succeeded yet as they approach their 30s. They want to be like the guys they see in rom coms and real life and have rotations of their own but they can’t and it’s frustrating. I don’t think those dudes deserve sympathy. I can’t even be friends with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:56 PM
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Fun guys are better options. Don’t be miserable dating strict boyfriends when there’s men who love the club and love for their girlfriends to be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:45 PM
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I think you’re overcomplicating people’s sex lives as feeder for your theories. You make casual sex extremely transactional but sex is just sex. If you don’t talk to her again after one time it doesn’t mean that she failed some test. She can be an amazing time but due to whatever social dynamics, you never talk to or see her again. Shit happens, no explanation even necessary. There is no test. There is no bar that she didn’t meet. If she feels used, she’s allowed that, I don’t think there’s ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:40 AM
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Traditionalism doesn’t work for me. I can’t be monogamous because I’ll break trust in every relationship therefore non-monogamy is better for me. It has nothing to do with getting laid or player culture, monogamy requires a type of commitment that is incompatible with my lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 09:39 PM
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Men and women are the same so this would have to apply to men and I just don’t think any of it is true. Fixing people is a dauntingly miserable task. There’s just simply so many better options to connect with. Applying that to practice, it doesn’t make you judgmental or looking for imperfections. People know what works and doesn’t work for them. A lot have had experiences since being teens to learn themselves. For example, my first relationship was with someone who traditional values. The lesson…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:06 PM
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Fuck no. Dating apps are fine, just don’t use them if you don’t want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:01 PM
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Speaking anecdotally here to exemplify how our experiences differ too much to reach these type of conclusions as universal truths. I’ve worn the bestie stamp my entire life, no one treats me like one of the girls. Like I get invited to girl friend social group outings where I’m the only straight guy a lot and no one treats me like an asexual goofball.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:28 PM
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Dating is never going to work out for people who navigate like this. You all see women as your adversaries rather than potential options that you have romantic feelings for and that’s why you view every interaction as some competition. If you can’t make a first move without feeling humiliated or like a servant, what are you even doing? Go get some confidence or something that helps you believe in yourself a bit more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:52 PM
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It’s still friendship at the end of the day. I’d recommend that nobody takes this advice, friendships aren’t a waste of time and what OP is selling is still literally friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:57 PM
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You’re supposed to figure this stuff out for yourself. It’s not women’s responsibility, stop relying on their advice and fix your own issues. This argument and mindset is pathetic, you got a bunch of dudes begging women for answers that they don’t even have themselves and hating them for it. Your dating success is solely your responsibility. You don’t need women holding your hand at every step of the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:29 PM
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There’s no such thing as tds.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:39 PM
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People are replaceable regardless of gender. We need to stop applying rules for below average men as universal truths, like who are you to say that she is the one with options and that we don’t have any?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:34 PM
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I know women on average to be cool and accepting but on the other hand a lot of y’all are lame as hell over this stuff. For instance, I know women who don’t even play sports, don’t have kids in sports, don’t even watch but we’re supposed to believe trans women in sports are a major inconvenience to their personal lives. It’s almost like you’re searching for minuscule issues or relying on insane hypotheticals to punch down on already marginalized groups. Those same women I know are also afraid of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:06 PM
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Sure but I still think it’s lame how a lot of women go about it. For example, I had a friend from college who was/is adamantly against dating bi men. She loudly and often proclaims how she would never and she shames other women for doing so. Come to find out, the boyfriend she spent all college and post college in love and obsessive over turned out to be bi. He discovered more about himself as he got older, left her looking stupid. She was dating a bi man the entire time. I think that type of be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:11 PM
2

What about being stable implies that you’re boring?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:34 PM
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Whether dating or life, none of the 3 things mentioned in your title are overrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:11 PM
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No it’s not, men should understand the importance and strive for all three as early as teen hood. That doesn’t mean you have to have your life figured out before 18, I didn’t, but you should want to be financially stable, have a good career, and be successful. That stuff matters. Especially in your 20s and 30s. Dating is competition and a lot of men are bums. It’s easy to be successful when you’re not a bum. Even when you take dating out of the equation, life is still good when you’re stable as …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:38 PM
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Again, nowhere do I claim that women are above criticism. In fact, I bet I have more valid criticisms towards them than you do. However, the benefits of being liked by them still outweigh the approval from other men who call others simps for anything. You’re straw manning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:09 AM
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Nope, it’s exactly that. They care about what value. What about when she is objectively a bad person? Women are not above criticism. This is a real straw man. You’re misrepresenting my argument by introducing non related context so that your point is easier to make. Claiming the benefits of associating with women outweigh associating with men who call you simp for anything does not imply that women are above criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:47 AM
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It’s just a way to express their disapproval while simultaneously not realizing that their approval is worthless. They’ll call you a simp for literally anything but at the end of the day it’s more beneficial to be liked by women than get approval from a bunch of men who don’t get pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:40 AM
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No he’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:35 AM
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I don’t think women are lying. However, not gonna stop working out and being fit simply because women prefer what’s on the left. A lot may find me sexier if I looked like the left but I find myself sexier by looking like the right and it’s not like I’m hurting to garner attraction. So all in all, it really doesn’t matter. I look good, I feel good, and am still preferable to plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 05:27 PM
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One I’ve noticed recently is loyalty to each other. If one friend does something really bad, there’s an expectation that the rest shouldn’t fuck with her. None of it is frustrating though. I’ve seen countless friend groups behind closed doors. Me and my friends are the same way, it’d be hypocritical to be frustrated by what women talk about, how they cover for each other, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:51 PM
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These replies are fucking crazy lol. You don’t have to debate bad faith actors online to prove that you care. Like you said, you’re making strides in your social circles and that matters way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:17 PM
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To me it’s simply forming an emotional connection with someone to the extent that it would hurt your boyfriend or girlfriend if they knew. For example, I’ve been in relationships but so emotionally connected to others that I was more in love with them than my own girlfriend. The emotional bond I had outside meant more to me than the emotional bond I was supposed to have with the person I was in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:55 PM
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This sounds dramatic. I’ve been with some of the same dudes since elementary school, I legit don’t know what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:48 PM
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Do we not already have these? What you’re proposing sounds like mine and tons of others friend groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:50 PM
2

How big is that threat currently that your personal beliefs warrant dictating our personal lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:55 PM
11

Birth rates are declining because societal factors have made it unfeasible to have kids given current conditions for a lot of people. It’s no one individual’s responsibility to maintain the status quo, you can date however you please, free of any responsibility that anyone thinks you should have based on their beliefs. The implications of your argument are simply not our responsibility. Neither dating culture or birth rates outweigh my wants and needs and how I choose to go about my personal lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:38 PM
-2

Become approachable if you want to be approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:33 PM
-2

Why do y’all always put all of the weight to fix everything dating related on women? Men’s happiness is no one’s responsibility. It’s on the individual to be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:29 PM
18

I think it’s their experiences. They live lives where a lot of them have been getting catcalled since the age of 12. Who needs the entertainment industry when these have been their experiences since adolescence?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:43 PM
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This is lame. You’re only going for revenge and to punish if you cheat to fix a dead bedroom. Just leave the relationship and explore from there. Most men can’t even pull like that. A lot of yall cant even get fucked on a random night out at a bar club or party. So imagine being stuck in a dead bedroom relationship trying to cheat and can’t even because you can’t pull. Just adding onto your misery. Leave first, fuck someone else later.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 06:51 PM
1

I probably wouldn’t believe that dating is easy if it was satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:52 PM
1

This stuff is weird to navigate. I’m genuine friends with people I’ve dated, I see and hangout with some of them regularly. I’m not changing that for a relationship, that was a hard mistake I already learned from at 18-19 but people will tell you that you’re hung up on exes. Like no, I’m just not stupid lol. Feel like you just gotta let them have it though, don’t got anything to prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:14 AM
2

Women simply seem to love academia and academics. The type of dudes who did the readings, got good grades, and used their education as a means of personal growth and maturity. Seems less about being financially supported and more about personality to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 08:33 PM
2

I wish this were true but I personally know too many hobosexual men to believe it. I do agree that plenty are fucking around and finding out, especially as they get into their 30s, however I feel like them seeing their peers “succeed” despite providing nothing helps further their entitlement that they should also be able to reap the same benefits despite bringing nothing to the table. I don’t think it serves as a wake up call, I think it’s something that continues to feed their perpetual cycle o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:36 PM
8

I don’t think it’s wrong or dehumanizing. I don’t feel hurt when seeing others preferences in their profiles. I think it’s helpful because I know those are people I don’t want to be with, so instant swipe left. It’s a sign that they take dating apps far too seriously. I don’t think we as men need to be so sensitive over seemingly trivial things like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:46 PM
1

No, I absolutely would.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:56 PM
1

That doesn’t make it any less of a nonsensical analogy though. You could have asked “If women are worried about being pressured to go 50/50 on dates or pay because they asked first... Would you tell them, "worry less about arbitrary things and just date"?” And it would’ve introduced a new subject (women) following a similar pattern (paying).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:26 PM
3

You’re comparing apples and oranges. We’re talking about paying for first dates, not sex. It makes zero sense to introduce sex as a comparison here and I think you know that answer to your question is an obvious no unless you’re asking in bad faith. You’re right in that I’m not empathic to the issue but nothing says I have to be. I’m capable enough of forming judgements based on what I observe with my own two eyes and what I’ve seen is too many dudes that I know fall to the wayside over this top…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:54 PM
3

Yeah I know, just saying that men should worry less about arbitrary things and just date.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:31 PM
3

Why does things have to be equal? I’m more concerned about intended results being easy to obtain. I think it’s best to just pay, even if she invites me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:15 PM
20

I don’t think they’re ruining dating but that’s me looking at it through a privileged lens, I don’t have them grabbing me at the club, etc. I do think they a lot of their takes are rooted in ignorance and inexperience though. Like the ideas that western women aren’t datable, worth the effort, responsible for everything bad. That’s just not true. Enough regular, well adjusted, normal men are reaping the benefits of western women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:22 PM
3

Yes, before ever getting into a relationship I was undateable. I didn’t know shit about shit, I was a bad boyfriend, not that I care but it’s objectively the truth. Same for my ex. Luckily I was a teen. Once I got to adulthood I was lucky enough to have learned countless lessons from my experiences which I think is the best teacher.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:32 PM
5

You asked whether being in a relationship fixes certain problems. My answer to that was yes and further emphasizing how it’s benefited me and mine. Nowhere does it say that you specifically called me immature. Relax. Be able to engage without feeling attacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:12 PM
5

I can only speak for myself and I mean, being in and learning from relationships have helped me. I’d say yeah. Immature people are everywhere but I sure don’t run into them and people who date me don’t get those problems from me, so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:01 PM
5

I do something that makes her mad. She doesn’t know how to communicate that properly because by this being her first relationship, she’s never experienced or learned from experienced to communicate her feelings. So it negatively affects her emotions. Instead of simply being like “hey, this upset me.” There’s conflict stemming from her bad emotions which ultimately leads to your misery. It’s not worth dealing with, therefore undateable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 06:45 PM
1

We could be without technology and people would still have their problems. People are still in the streets, inhibition free, getting drunk, high, dating and fucking. If social media apps were banned tomorrow, those same people would adapt and those who struggle would still struggle. These woes can only be fixed by the individual, there is no one size fits all answer that broadly improves dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 12:54 AM
2

I leave lol, I hate that shit and I hate how it makes me feel. I already struggle with overwhelmingly dating interracially by chance and not preference and what that does for me socially. I wouldn’t be caught dead with someone who fetishizes me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:25 AM
39

I think young men are radicalized into the manosphere because they navigate life through the lens of women being their adversaries which typically stems from rejections and/or lack of receiving validation from women. Based on experiences that I’ve observed. I’ve seen dudes fall down that hole far before it became popular to choose a a hypothetical bear, simply because they were not getting what they want. Women were always gonna be their enemies regardless of TikTok.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 07:21 PM
2

Lol no. I think women hobosexual are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 11:21 PM
2

People judge because of their beliefs, views and opinions. They feel the need because they believe they’re entitled to it and that their judgment matters. Yes it implicitly polices women but that’s not necessarily a factor to them because to them their beliefs, views and opinions matter more. For instance, I love women that wear makeup, fake nails, and have great style fashion wise. I know other women who believe the type of women that I like do women a disservice and believe their judgment shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 08:37 PM
3

What exactly are the repercussions of being wrong or being judged for our preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:22 PM
3

Lol I say where I live in the first sentence of my comment. In response to OP saying that his post applies to young women that live in big cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:33 AM
7

I’m not sure what you mean. Are you making those choices often and if so why?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:14 AM
8

You don’t know the type of women that men with yachts and private jets like
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:01 AM
8

I’m a liberal big city resident. This post is nonsense lol. Spend any amount of time with women who live in cities where you argue this is the case and you’ll quickly realize that it doesn’t come close to their realities. Women in big cities struggle professionally, socially, and economically just like anyone else. They face hardships, live with roommates, lose friends, get sick, die. The list goes on, they live regular lives. Easy mode in big cities would be being able to walk alone at night wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:21 AM
10

This isn’t how the fight for equality works. You don’t have to sacrifice at home in favor of places where things might be worse in order for what you believe in to be valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 02:22 AM
13

Arguments based on what ifs aren’t viable. We should be pushing women to do whatever they want to or please instead of pretending that we have all the answers for their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 09:37 PM
3

It’s not trolling just because I don’t think you’re right. I made my point, you disagreed. Neither side was convinced by the other so that’s that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:58 PM
1

Disagree, I believe that it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:49 PM
2

No, that’s exactly what I’m saying. How is that not reasonable that attraction is a factor here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:42 PM
5

You see it all the time. Generalizations aren’t norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:40 PM
3

It’s not pointless to someone who has something to prove. We all know these dudes in real life, think about their experiences. I know one who’s practically invisible to women. He wants casual sex from various top tier women but it will never happen for him. If he can’t argue what’s pointless, it means he’s failed to achieve what he wants, which means he has to hold himself accountable which he’ll never do. To him, women have to “live life on easy mode” otherwise none of his shortcomings are his …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:33 PM
17

Likely because they go their entire lives being degraded and objectified by men’s sexual attraction. You got women who’ve experienced catcalling since they were 12. Also stop making bad arguments about what men will and won’t do. It’s completely reasonable that a man would feel degraded and objectified when approached by someone they find unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 04:26 PM
3

I simply can’t date somebody turned off by effort put into fashion, style, skin, etc lol. Some of the answers here are crazy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 02:31 AM
15

Nothing. I don’t feel like I have to prove myself in order to be worthy of a relationship so I don’t bring anything to the table. If someone doesn’t think I’m a viable option, that’s ok, I’ll just go date someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 11:19 PM
17

How do you go from good to toxic?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:34 PM
5

Modern and it’s not even close. They look better, dress better, have more confidence, better educated, have better jobs, the list goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:42 PM
8

That hasn’t been my experience, I think it makes connections come easier honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 08:20 PM
31

Ok, I’m superficial. So? Why does it matter? I have high standards and I don’t find it difficult to form deep connections which you argue is the case for people who prioritize standards. I can concede that I’m superficial, but delusional? No. Your points don’t align with my reality. In fact, I’d argue that deep connections aren’t hard to form despite being superficial. I also don’t want chemistry with options who don’t meet my standards, that’s pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 08:01 PM
0

I’m a good little drone? Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:28 PM
-1

Yeah, I believe so. More men should strive for being boyfriend or husband material. I believe too many men are obsessed with living out their fuck boy dreams to compensate for their past which produces zero results, ultimately wasting their time. Men are always chasing sex and a variety of top tier options to have sex with, we see it everyday in real life in our friend circles, I’m honestly even guilty of it myself. Dudes want to be seen as “him” or that guy but in reality, unless you’ve been re…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:53 PM
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It will never happen. Therefore, we collectively need to decenter “men’s issues” The rest of us are too far socially to consistently placate modern men who will likely never catch up. They’ve reduced themselves to a perpetual state of victimhood to the extent that it’s not worth debating what they’re whining about. So let’s just all move on. We see it in dudes that we know in real life. We all know or have/had friends are today’s losers. It’s all a lost cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:40 PM
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It’s ok to inflate your ego and care about superficial things. We all do it. “Oh, she’s hot, popular and rich and thus she must be better than all the other women!” There’s nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:23 PM
3

Life B, it has the higher ceiling and none of the misery and risks that comes with being in a gang or jail. Life B is quiet, calm and comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:00 PM
1

No, I pay regardless because I think paying for first dates is such a stupid non-issue. Every first date for me is drinks and food at a popular place in a city because that’s what I’m into and where I live. If that’s below a certain level of nicety or doesn’t qualify as a dinner date to her, she’s entitled to that. No harm no foul, we just never speak again. Dating isn’t hard lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:55 PM
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Cry somewhere else man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:13 PM
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Passport bros are losers. Many women have grown accustomed to using men for free meals, homework help, gifts, and validation without offering anything in return. It’s a movement promoted by men who allow themselves to get played over and over. They’re the John’s of the world. It’s evidenced in their own grievances. Women will never be threatened in the dating market by them because the dating market doesn’t revolve around them. It exists with or without them, and if with them, they’re the ones b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:59 AM
2

It’s not much of a problem anymore but I will still get called out on it when doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 07:29 PM
1

No the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 07:14 PM
40

What are your debate points here? Yes we can be bad at things, that doesn’t mean we don’t also weaponize incompetence, I know I do. Growing up, my parents enabled it. Not cleaning or doing dishes “right” knowing mom and dad will swoop in and do it for you. I’ve carried that into adulthood and relationships so much that I’ve been called out on it. They’re not wrong, I’m conscious of what I’m doing. I’m conscious of that safety net being there. I don’t get what you’re debating here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:24 PM
-3

I disagree. Love from someone who doesn’t love themself doesn’t feel like actual love, it feels like a miserable chore. I think it goes without saying that you don’t have to be problem free, literally no one is perfect. However, I believe that not loving yourself in the sense that you have low self esteem places an insurmountable burden on the people that you date which eventually ruins relationships. This goes beyond trauma dumping or treating your lover as a therapist. In my experience, such l…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:18 PM
0

Obvious fallacies aside, I disagree. Toxic masculinity exists, I’ve displayed and expressed it through my own actions at countless times in my life. Even now being conscious and aware of it, I still mistakenly express it in everyday interactions. It’s insanely easy to argue “that’s not masculinity” or write my actions it off as immaturity but that wouldn’t be logical, at all. For example, you say logic masculine. I use logic when lying to women. Is that not toxic masculinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 10:22 PM
4

No because I’m not a dick however I’ll still personally believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 06:38 PM
1

The same applies to the friend mention in my original comment… It’s still amazing advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 06:37 PM
3

The burden of more success is on the individual. The advice works.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 06:23 PM
3

Good advice given to the wrong person isn’t bad advice, like I said it’s a generalized approach. Still works, just not for that individual and to that, oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 06:07 PM
1

No it’s not, that person’s self just can’t amount to what they want. Be yourself is amazing advice actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 06:01 PM
11

I genuinely don’t believe they themselves know what they’re expecting, I think they just want to make it everyone else’s problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:35 PM
13

Why is any of this anyone else’s burden? Cliche dating advice works. It’s a recommended generalized approach to meeting your dating needs. If a person can’t find a way to successfully fit within that framework, it has no effect on modern dating. For example, the advice to be yourself. A person tries to be themself, gets dismissed. That doesn’t disprove the validity of the advice, it simply means that person’s true self isn’t sufficient for what they want to obtain. I’ve hear similar push back di…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:16 PM
11

Spending money on women is no big deal, especially not to this extent where you have to over analyze the value of the dollar and what you get in return. Well-adjusted, sound, mature men just don’t care. Spend money, get rejected or spend money and get fucked, it’s just life. No one is really playing this game except for those that I believe get 1-2 dates every other month or the entire year. For instance, what’s really lost if you go on a first date, pay, she leaves and fuck someone one else? No…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:17 PM
21

Yeah, I don’t understand relationships to the extent that people here describe them. My only debate points here are that none of this really makes sense to me. I don’t think relationships have to be this adversarial and I find that relationships in my personal life do just fine without navigating them like so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:52 PM
1

I don’t know but it’s why I’m grateful that non-monogamy works for me. I don’t have to pretend either way and there’s no pressure to be perfect which I think monogamy requires. I can have a one night stand if I want when approached with it doing no damage to my relationship. I prefer that to the alternative, I think monogamous couples go through hell over what I don’t believe (sex with someone else) is a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 03:55 PM
4

The benefit is that you get women. This point is moot given the fact that my arguments lay out that getting women is already accomplished. To conclude, you posed the question “why be nice when it’s power that benefits a man?” I counter argued with the point that it’s better because ideals that you promote have set the bar so low that getting women is already easy therefore it’s better to meet women where they’re at than stoop to what you’re promoting. None of this is mother’s nature’s rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:27 AM
1

It’s not, as I said the stuff you promote has made the game easy. You asked in your post “why be nice” and it’s literally because the bar has been set so low because tons of men have reduced themselves to the type of beliefs you lay out. There’s no benefit in agreeing with you and choosing “power”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:11 AM
-1

No, not denoting that it’s rare behavior, I’m pointing out how it’s the better approach when the competition aligns with what you promote.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:01 AM
2

Your points don’t make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:21 AM
7

Why be nice when power is what benefits a man? Because red pill has made the game too easy. Countless sects of men have regressed mentally, socially and finically beyond unimaginable means. In today’s world, women are generally left with two options, loser men and the rest. The gap in experiences between losers and the rest speaks for itself. If we’re all trying to get ass, which often are, being nice among a competing field of incapable men works too well in the current climate to ever risk not…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:39 AM
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I don’t believe the following, none of it makes any actual sense to me. Yes, I believe no one is entitled to or owed anything in a relationship and I simultaneously believe anyone can leave if they want to. Actions have consequences though, so by all means, feel free to leave your wife or girlfriend if she has cancer but at least be accountable to the action. You can’t cry about being judged as an asshole for doing asshole shit. I don’t think the issue requires much debate beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:28 AM
1

Not credibly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:33 PM
2

Duh. Nevertheless, a 50 year old in Manhattan doesn’t have to spend $200 to not be immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:27 PM
3

Not really, it’s still social media. For every 175k, there’s another 175k+ not subscribed in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:04 PM
1

I don’t think that changes anything. Again, already being in a major city, first dates don’t have to come close to $200.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:01 PM
1

I don’t do coffee dates. I agree with points 1 and 2, however I think point 3 is dumb as fuck. Money is no issue, at all, however a first date does not require a $200 investment. We’re all different with different wants and needs, which means we all date differently. There are no real rules to apply such standards. For instance, a first time date over tacos and margaritas in a big city runs about $80-100 (at least where I live). There’s no real barometer to apply the immaturity standard to simpl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 03:50 PM
3

Looks should be highlighted. I don’t think the apps are doing anything wrong by emphasizing something that’s always been a factor, at least in my experience. From day 1, it should have at least been common sense to put your best foot forward when presenting yourself to countless women online. You should have had an understanding that presenting your best self through pictures would be the key to getting whatever it is that you want from dating apps. Instead, I think what we have are a bunch of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:49 PM
2

I thoroughly enjoy healthy relationships. I’m non-monogamous, anything unhealthy wouldn’t work for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:09 AM
10

I think high quality means different things to different women. Nevertheless, as an observer, I think it should impact in the sense that average men should not pursue top tier women and give up on their fuck boy dreams. Modern men’s pursuit is entirely dictated by their desire for bad bitches. It’s a sentiment that we hear from our friends in real life all the way to Uber drivers randomly dishing to you about their desires. I believe this is evident by how popular the idea of turning 30 seems to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 12:23 AM
3

Can you make a point within the context framework of actually knowing the girl rather than just ogling? I mean, duh. Your point as it is, is such a common occurrence across male spaces that it’s the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:52 PM
3

I’ve had plenty of male friends. Can’t think of one that would remotely give a shit. We’d all want to tap that. Yeah same, which speaks exactly to my point. Tyrone Shut up dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:38 PM
5

You guys have no standards for yourselves and play it off as universal truths to describe how the rest of us work. You rely on the most ludicrous examples to establish ignorant logic. Like here, If you go to the hood and see a banging latina woman 10/10. Unless she behaves mentally handicapped. You’re not going to give a fuck that she is poor. That’s not going to somehow make her less attractive. This isn’t based on anything. At best, it’s hyperbole. In reality, you don’t know anything about me …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 05:23 PM
1

Price is irrelevant, it’s reasonable to choose the service if bangmaid is offering high quality options. You just let them know that they don’t have to do all that. Same rates, high tips, less work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:17 PM
1

Silver. Is there an option to forgo the cleaning and meal prep? I don’t want a random doing either of those for me unless the transaction is exclusively to that, i.e. an actual maid or nanny for the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 04:07 PM
14

For me, it’s because these are the women we grew up with. We were placed in the same classes with them throughout early education and in college. We exist alongside them in our careers as adults. I don’t think your proximity argument makes much sense. I’d argue that by staying in close proximity to career and educated women, some of us are actively avoiding dating down. It’s not just something that doesn’t happen because of proximity. For example, Men don’t go out of their way to seek out women …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:37 PM
31

Ignorance, envy, delusion and projection. We all know or have friends who think and promote ideas in real life. It doesn’t align with the realities or experiences of attractive men. The guy who gets the girl will always be the asshole to the other guy who has a crush on her. The other guy is ignorant to the attractive man’s life. He’s envies that the attractive man easily has what he wants. He deludes himself into believing he’s the better option. It all ultimately leads to the projection of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:30 PM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 10:42 PM
4

Lol rich when you can’t counter argue or even defend your own arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:58 PM
5

You’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:13 PM
12

The points in your debate post and seemingly several similar ones made prior insists that social media has affected how you view women. You’re no different than what you’re arguing against.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:59 PM
17

The same literally applies to you lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:51 PM
19

Red pill teaches men that they are better than women. If a woman “spins plates” she’s a hoe, if a man “spins plates” he’s that guy. Cognitive dissonance deludes many men into believing that they’re different. To them, it’s ok to indulge however it’s wrong when women do the exact same thing. It speaks to how mentally weak modern men are. They feel slighted that they’d get laughed at where women succeed although it’s a culture they promote among themselves but excuse their hypocrisy with “it’s dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:34 PM
6

Not having impulse or self control is even more pathetic. Why do average men need excuses for every hurdle that the rest of us overcome?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 11:11 PM
4

If sex with an attractive woman is a once in a lifetime opportunity, that man has no business cheating and should not. A man so pathetic should not risk his relationship for temporary satisfaction or just to say he did so. If sex with an attractive woman is his true desires, he should not take it because his failure to previously do so is completely on him. Any reasonable mad who’s not afraid of accountability will accept that and find fulfillment elsewhere rather than holding on to teenage drea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:47 PM
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