OldThrwy Archive

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1	Feminism has made men weak Feminists can be criminals, you know.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/25 05:37 PM
1	Feminism has made men weak lol no men cannot. I tried. No one gives a shit about female on male violence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/25 05:36 PM
1	Feminism has made men weak It has everything to do with feminism because the laws in my state were passed by explicit self-described feminists. And I’m not wrong because I’ve been through the process. There is no proceeding to get the TRO. It’s ex parte and requires NO evidence except a sob story. On the basis of that sob story, the man is kicked out of his home, restricted from his children, and his 2nd amendment rights are violated. That is enough to ruin a man’s reputation and livelihood. By beef is that feminism is cl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/25 05:35 PM
-1	Feminism has made men weak The downside of feminism is never going to come for you, so you’re never going to see it. A woman can go to a clerk in my state and make up a story about abuse, get her husband kicked out of the house, separate him from his kids, make him lose his job and liberty, and feminists think that’s a good thing. Feminists fight to preserve that system, and just because it doesn’t harm you doesn’t mean it men are making up the harms it causes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/25 05:29 PM
2	Men are held to a higher/more rigid standard of masculinity than women are for femininity. They don’t need to be shamed they need to be redpilled.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/24 11:56 PM
12	Men are held to a higher/more rigid standard of masculinity than women are for femininity. Women don’t even see it. Men can’t walk a certain way, hold certain things, make certain hand gestures, talk a certain way, play certain instruments, do certain sports, dance in certain ways, have certain hobbies, work in certain fields, eat certain foods, listen to certain music etc. without someone calling it sus. I remember in middle school there was a bunch of girls going around asking boys to look at their fingernails and the bottom on their foot. If they did it wrong, they were labeled “ga…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/24 11:49 PM
-2	Why do you personally hate or dislike The Red Pill? That’s the blue pill for you! “Being myself worked for me, everyone else should just be me!” The main thing BP cannot understand is what it’s like to be a man with zero success whatsoever. Huge empathy gap.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 12:59 PM
3	Men should (and are) show less sympathy towards women's issues in dating and in general I feel like feminism is actually a right wing movement. They try so hard to argue the same talking points as Donald Trump Jr; during man vs bear feminists were tripping over themselves with the skittles fallacy. Using that unironically gives bigotry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/24 01:38 AM
2	The Red Pill is the most effective strategy for men in the world of modern dating. That’s called an anecdote. You can’t prove something isn’t true by saying you haven’t seen it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/24 10:10 PM
1	The Red Pill is the most effective strategy for men in the world of modern dating. You have to substantiate your claims tho, “of course” isn’t an argument.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/24 03:45 PM
3	The Red Pill is the most effective strategy for men in the world of modern dating. You’re trying to argue “87% of red-pill men are single therefore RP doesn’t work and that’s because men aren’t taking accountability” Can you substantiate your claims here? OKC doesn’t support that and your YT video doesn’t either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/24 03:36 PM
4	The Red Pill is the most effective strategy for men in the world of modern dating. The title say “87% of men are single” not “87% of red pill men are single”. And the video is just a pointless 5 minute ramble not even connected to the title.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/24 03:02 PM
1	This is sad and pathetic. After the election results, a woman’s male fiancé sent a card letter to her essentially debasing himself & apologizing for his own gender so that she could feel better. That too lol.	/r/MensRights	17/11/24 08:55 AM
11	The Red Pill is the most effective strategy for men in the world of modern dating. That link does not say 87% of redpill men are single… what exactly did you intend to show with that? And how do you figure RP tells men to take responsibility? RP is all about building men’s self esteem by helping them to take control of their own lives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/24 08:49 AM
3	Most people don’t care about the culture/gender war. Feminism normalized that. Today a woman wearing pants is just a woman wearing pants, not a feminist woman wearing pants. But Kamala is a feminist woman wearing pants, and that’s a problem because feminism is increasingly viewed as an extremist movement. Feminism achieved most of its objectives, but it keeps demanding more and more. People are fine giving the right to vote, to allow women in the workplace, to allow financial independence, etc. But when people see 60% of enrolled students in highe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/24 10:01 PM
2	Why is there no gay passport bro movement? They can exist and do, but the point is they’re so rare there’s not really a marketplace to support that kind of relationship, whereas the market for SDs is massive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/24 08:49 PM
2	Most people don’t care about the culture/gender war. People only care about politics when things are a shitshow. 2008 -> Bush presidency ends in financial crisis, started two wars, high unemployment -> huge turnout 2016 - Obama’s presidency was scandal free, ended with low unemployment, strong economy -> low turnout 2020 - Trump presidency ended in mass casualties from pandemic, recession, high unemployment -> massive turnout 2024 - Biden presidency ends in low unemployment, good economy -> low turnout Anyone see the pattern? Anyone want to guess …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/24 07:26 PM
3	Most people don’t care about the culture/gender war. Tariffs and mass deportations are projected to make everything more expensive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/24 07:18 PM
12	Most people don’t care about the culture/gender war. A lot of people are fine with voting for women, but Kamala’s problem is she’s a feminist woman. There are female governors and senators of red states. How did they get elected if it’s about gender? Kamala represented herself as the avatar of feminism. Feminists and women are not interchangeable. People need to understand not everyone agrees with feminism. In fact feminists have a hard time accepting their ideology is on its way out, and that’s a large part as to why Kamala lost.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/24 07:14 PM
6	The dynamic of age gap relationships is multilayered... They aren’t much better at 40, let me tell you. If anything they’re all that, and with a huge chip on their shoulder. At least the ones left in the dating pool.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/24 04:25 PM
5	RP men use dating strategies that attract specific kinds of women, which reinforces their stereotypes about women in a vicious cycle They don’t need to follow RP because being normal, they are already nominally attractive!	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 08:51 PM
18	RP men use dating strategies that attract specific kinds of women, which reinforces their stereotypes about women in a vicious cycle I can’t stress how much women love men who are kind of arrogant pricks calling them out on their BS. Telling women “no you’re full of shit” unlocks some kind of desire to prove you wrong that simultaneously makes them attracted. Hard to explain but easy to experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 08:43 PM
4	RP men use dating strategies that attract specific kinds of women, which reinforces their stereotypes about women in a vicious cycle Link the study if you’re going to cite it. Most men who find their way to RP have zero success whatsoever so you’re going to have to explain what less success means with that context.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 08:31 PM
4	RP men use dating strategies that attract specific kinds of women, which reinforces their stereotypes about women in a vicious cycle The point of RP is that society conditions men to believe those universally desirable traits do not actually matter. Society tells men “be yourself, don’t try too hard, treat her like a friend”. If a man is attractive, wealthy, or powerful follows that advice he finds success. He then turns around and says “wow being yourself is all you need!” Men without those traits cannot follow that advice. Those men need to literally be told how to be actually attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 08:30 PM
2	Many women and men on this sub are willfully ignorant about male genital mutilation There’s literally nothing we can do about it. Men are socialized to be stoic — we don’t fret about things we can’t control or change. Don’t mistake men’s resignation for assent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 06:42 PM
2	Infantilizing women in age gaps relationships is inherently misogynistic. I’m not making that argument, I’m arguing that not all 18 year olds are childlike. If you say all 18 year olds are childlike, you are infantilizing truly incredible people who are far more mature than much older people. Maturity is not measured in years so you can’t make a statement like you did based on observing one childish 18 year old. What would you say if you witnessed James Monroe signing the Declaration of Independence? “Wow, how childish”?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 05:24 AM
1	Infantilizing women in age gaps relationships is inherently misogynistic. Yeah because kinks are by definition deviations from the norm. Your wife is the exception that proves the rule.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 05:20 AM
2	Infantilizing women in age gaps relationships is inherently misogynistic. I’m not saying younger can’t be anxious or avoidant, but also I am saying the older secured attracted are…. securely attached and therefore off the market. So the market for older men older women who are mostly anxious avoidant, or younger women of all attachment styles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 05:19 AM
19	Infantilizing women in age gaps relationships is inherently misogynistic. You need to listen to some of the actual language being used by people who criticize age gap relationships. Maybe that’s what people are missing? The language used fully describes people under 25 as basically children who cannot make long term decisions because their brains are still developing. It’s not that giving advice is infantilizing, it’s that the advice is infantilizing. Essentially: you don’t know what’s good for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 05:14 AM
2	Infantilizing women in age gaps relationships is inherently misogynistic. No I used an example to show that different dynamics can exist other than the narrative you are pushing. All I’m saying is that you presume older men have more power due to their age alone, but there are situations and dynamics that exist when younger people hold power over older people. If you consistently only talk about one way power dynamics where men are more powerful than women you are just infantilizing women. Here’s Valarie McDowell, who became a state representative at 18: https://en.m.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/24 04:43 AM
4	Infantilizing women in age gaps relationships is inherently misogynistic. And they’ll be completely fine with said 18 yo posting her OF on her twitch directing 16 yo boys to pay for her nudes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 11:29 PM
1	Infantilizing women in age gaps relationships is inherently misogynistic. I often see people having something to say about 24 year olds having age gap relationships, and they usually say something like “brain doesn’t stop maturing until 25” In my mind a 24 yo is fully adult, yet you’ll find plenty of people having a problem with 24 yos dating 30+.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 11:27 PM
3	Infantilizing women in age gaps relationships is inherently misogynistic. What kind of power are you talking about? An 18 year old girl with 100k followers on IG has the power to ruin a man’s life she’s dating with a single accusatory post. How does that power compare to that of a 40 year old who has no social network and works at Walmart as a cashier?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 11:20 PM
2	Infantilizing women in age gaps relationships is inherently misogynistic. Yeah many young women are taught by their mothers and grandmothers how to manipulate men. My ex-wife’s grandmother used to encourage her to engage in “lady tricks” as she called them, which boiled down to using her sexuality to manipulate men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 11:11 PM
1	Infantilizing women in age gaps relationships is inherently misogynistic. not common and not the norm are connotatively the same in this usage, meaning they did not happen frequently. This is sloppy reasoning. You reported a median, without any error bars. You can’t claim that results outside the median do not happen frequently. Here is a list of age gaps in 12 hypothetical relationships: 0 0 1 1 1 4 4 4 10 11 15 20 Median age gap is 4, but age gap relationships greater than 10 occur more frequently than the median age gap. I’m not saying this reflects reality I’m jus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 11:07 PM
11	Infantilizing women in age gaps relationships is inherently misogynistic. If they are not infantilizing you, why do they feel the need to look out for you? You can take care of yourself right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 10:54 PM
2	Infantilizing women in age gaps relationships is inherently misogynistic. I love this point, I don’t think it gets brought up enough because people just assume the male is experienced and out to manipulate. There is no consideration for the fact that people of different ages can be at the same life stage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 10:50 PM
2	Infantilizing women in age gaps relationships is inherently misogynistic. You said it: it’s a kink.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 10:44 PM
5	Infantilizing women in age gaps relationships is inherently misogynistic. Try looking at it from a man’s perspective. Im 38. If I look at my dating pool, it’s mostly women who either have children or want them asap. They are out of their first or second marriage. A lot of them have anxious or avoidant attachment issues. They also think they know everything about men but they base it all on their experience with their shitty ex husbands. It’s very common for women my age to treat me, the guy they just met, as if I’m their ex with all his flaws. So that’s Door A. Door B…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 10:26 PM
1	Infantilizing women in age gaps relationships is inherently misogynistic. That 18 year old was child like. James Monroe was 18 when he signed the Declaration of Independence. There are 18 year olds out there raising families, running companies, and making advances in science and technology. Here’s a list of the youngest state representatives, many of whom were teenagers when they assumed office: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_youngest_state_legislators_in_the_United_States If 18 year olds are actually children, then why are we allowing them to write laws?…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 10:13 PM
11	Infantilizing women in age gaps relationships is inherently misogynistic. Every time age gap comes up, someone chimes in “brain development doesn’t end until 25”, which I find to be infantilizing — they act as if a 24 year old is equivalent to a teenager.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 09:53 PM
-1	Made a post about how modern feminism has in part , played into why many young men fail to reach the standards of the young women. Think I'll make a different claim, but in the same ball park. Women are more solipsistic in dating( especially younger ones). That’s selection bias.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 06:54 PM
6	Why is there no gay passport bro movement? You don’t see the link between social shaming and promiscuity in gay men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 06:54 PM
3	Why is there no gay passport bro movement? If you want to know just how much women value sex versus men, just look at the dating scene where dollar values are attached to dates: sugardating. Sugardating takes the idea of a dating market literally by creating an economy for dating. Frankly, there is absolutely no market for men to get paid to date women. The concept of a male sugarbaby is an oxymoron. Sugarmammas are not a thing. Every so often some 10/10 man thinks he has so much demand on the dating market he should be paid for dates. B…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 06:50 PM
0	Made a post about how modern feminism has in part , played into why many young men fail to reach the standards of the young women. Think I'll make a different claim, but in the same ball park. Women are more solipsistic in dating( especially younger ones). A lot of those problems could be solved with redpill advice. Instead when someone there asks for help, the advice is to just be yourself, treat her like a friend, join a salsa class, just stop looking and you’ll find someone when you least expect it — that is, useless advice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 06:39 PM
9	Why is there no gay passport bro movement? Being thought of as a disease vector to the point you are banned from participating in an aspect of society is waaaay more critical than n counts being discussed on Internet forums.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 06:36 PM
8	Why is there no gay passport bro movement? The crazy thing is you don’t even have to be gay to experience that. You just have to be presumed gay. Even if you’re straight, any hint of femininity in your behavior and you’ll be labeled sus at best. If you cross them, the f slur drops.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 06:34 PM
8	Why is there no gay passport bro movement? lolwut? Men pay for sex every single day, either directly or indirectly by supporting a relationship. They won’t admit to any woman that they pay directly though, because women have decided that paying for sex makes a man undateable. Sugardating is on the rise for a reason.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 06:24 PM
13	Why is there no gay passport bro movement? Out gay men have been banned from donating blood until last year due to notions about their promiscuity. Despite the ban being lifted, people still hold those negative stereotypes to this day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 06:19 PM
-1	Made a post about how modern feminism has in part , played into why many young men fail to reach the standards of the young women. Think I'll make a different claim, but in the same ball park. Women are more solipsistic in dating( especially younger ones). My favorite thing about those subs is you can find plenty of redpill ideas expressed in roundabout ways. Redpill is so based that a lot of women will say redpill rhetoric without realizing it. AF/BB is something many women actually believe and will say, but if you call it AF/BB you’re banned.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 05:15 PM
2	Made a post about how modern feminism has in part , played into why many young men fail to reach the standards of the young women. Think I'll make a different claim, but in the same ball park. Women are more solipsistic in dating( especially younger ones). Woman have something to offer men by default: their bodies. Women hate to be “objectified” but at the end of the day women’s bodies make them inherently valuable to men. Women hate to admit it, but their entire world and the privileges they enjoy would be completely different without the value their bodies brings men. Men’s bodies are just as objectified as women, but not by women. Men’s bodies are objectified by society as disposable meat for the grinder. Women prefer when men sacrifice their b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 05:04 PM
5	Made a post about how modern feminism has in part , played into why many young men fail to reach the standards of the young women. Think I'll make a different claim, but in the same ball park. Women are more solipsistic in dating( especially younger ones). Yo that made me lose my appetite, so disgusting. I can’t even imagine men talking about mutilating women on daytime TV and it getting a round of applause. Men do that and their show is cancelled immediately.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 04:49 PM
4	Made a post about how modern feminism has in part , played into why many young men fail to reach the standards of the young women. Think I'll make a different claim, but in the same ball park. Women are more solipsistic in dating( especially younger ones). Same is true for r/dating, r/relationship_advice or any other dating sub. I have found PPD is the only place where alternative viewpoints are tolerated. You get permabanned without warning in these subs if they get a whiff of redpill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/24 04:44 PM
70	This is sad and pathetic. After the election results, a woman’s male fiancé sent a card letter to her essentially debasing himself & apologizing for his own gender so that she could feel better. With that handwriting I thought it was a 8 year old child.	/r/MensRights	14/11/24 01:30 AM
0	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability A lot of Americans are also living beyond their means. Anyway, I’m not saying stay at home parents shouldn’t be learning marketable skills. My SAHM was a skilled at sewing and started her own business. My dad delivered packages. What I’m saying is they shouldn’t be climbing corporate ladders. If both partners in a relationship want to do that, they should forgo kids IMO. One partner works for a job while the other works for the community. With both partners working jobs is there any surprise com…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 09:03 PM
1	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability I’m a big proponent of prenups for all marriages.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 05:30 PM
4	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability That’s why I think couples should set aside a portion of income specifically for both spouses. The breadwinner’s money should be divided between the partners for discretionary spending and saving, and the rest goes toward the relationship. Would make separating so much easier. He keeps his, you keep yours, the rest is probably all spent but if there’s some left split it down the middle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 03:27 PM
3	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability Sure it does. You’ve just never been targeted by the self interest of women I suppose. My rights were violated when my ex filed a false abuse report against me. Without a shred of evidence, she got me kicked from my home by police, separated from my pets, and my firearms were taken from me. Why? Because she availed herself to a system set up by feminists to make it as easy as possible for women to weaponize state violence against men. This system was set up by self interested feminists, who did …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 02:53 AM
2	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability Yeah but that includes 20k-30k of childcare per year because both parents have to go to work. 80k is much more reasonable, it’s what you’d get at a good union job like package delivery for UPS. That’s how my dad supported our family of 4 on a single income. Strengthening unions strengthens the family.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 02:25 AM
3	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability I am blaming men too, if you read my replies I’ve said it explicitly every single time that war is between nations of men and women. But no one questions men’s role in war. Yet some people, like the person I originally responded to, think women remain blameless. You seem to have misread my posts because you’re throwing up straw men. This whole thing started with me replying to somehow who said men die before women because they kill one another and they have inferior biology. To me I read that as…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 01:48 AM
-2	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability Two incomes being needed in dense metros is a direct result of couples in dense metros having dual incomes. In supply constrained markets (housing in dense metros), sellers can hold out for the highest bid, which is going to go toward dual income couples. They can just outspend single income couples. Of course they also drive up the price of childcare, healthcare, and education to the point now we expect the government to subsidize it all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 01:35 AM
1	Status is everything for men I don’t think you comprehend me lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 01:27 AM
3	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability My mother turned to the community to provide me structured childcare. We spent most days together together at the library and the community center. She didn’t need a career because she worked for herself, making designer handbags, a skill she learned and honed to an art form through raising us. There are lots of options out there aside from two parents climbing the corporate ladder. And anyway to be clear I’m not saying women need to stay home, I’m saying one parent should stay home. Maybe they …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 01:25 AM
3	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability Sorry your man cheated on you, but he should really have been setting aside a portion of his income just for you. Not anyone else’s fault yours and his that you both arranged your relationship in a way that left you vulnerable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 01:17 AM
2	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability LOL those who are sent to war are well compensated?? Have you ever been to a VA? Do you even know the homeless rate among vets? The mental illness rate? What I’m saying is someone has to do the job. And it falls to men because where are the women stepping up? Women are happy to let men step up and take the bullets, while they stay in the comfort of the homeland. Do you have any evidence to the contrary?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 01:14 AM
5	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability You’re acting like men want to go to war to rape women. Men are sent to war to kill and be killed from the top down. For example in the USA, 44% of women voted for Bush II, who then sent mostly men to die in Iraq and Afghanistan. 60% of women supported that war. Then in 2004, women went on to vote for Bush at even greater proportion (48%). Both men and women kept that war going. Men and women supported that war because they believed it was keeping terrorists at bay. “Fight them there so we don’t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 01:11 AM
9	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability You need two cars in a society built for cars. Cars have only existed for about 100 years, society got on fine without them for 100,000 years. We need to move toward more sustainable public transportation solutions for the reasons you cite.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 01:00 AM
5	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability I am not blaming women that is a straw man. What I am saying is women are just as culpable as men in the dynamics of war. War does not happen in a vacuum. War is between nations, not men, and nations are composed of men and women who have agency. This isn’t even really about the draft. In America, women are free to sign up and join the military just the same as men, yet they do not. Yet women vote for candidates that support wars just the same as men. And large majorities of men and women suppor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 12:58 AM
1	Why do divorced men seem to struggle so much even when financials are not an issue? I’m not trying to start up man vs bear again, I’m just telling you what I witnessed. Maybe I’m wrong and women never call men incels everywhere but where I’ve been spending time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/24 12:01 AM
0	Status is everything for men What? You can’t tell me what I perceive, sorry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 11:57 PM
7	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability And all I’m saying is societies which men failed to protect with violence are gone, and behind every violent man on the front lines is a woman who anticipates his violence will protect her. If men did not exist, war would not just disappear, it would be women doing the warring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 11:52 PM
0	Why do divorced men seem to struggle so much even when financials are not an issue? Yeah, so that’s where I’m saying we agree. I agree with that but most women I ask that have said a blanket “no”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 11:35 PM
3	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability My dad was a UPS driver. We didn’t grow up “poor” as I saw it, but my presents were wrapped in newspaper comics if that gives you an idea. My sister and I shared a bedroom which was a glorified walk-in closet in our 1bd house. Then we lived in a trailer for a year and a half. The neighbor girl babysat us when my parents went out. We made it work because my mom did all the labor that’s now outsourced by dual income families.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 11:32 PM
1	Why do divorced men seem to struggle so much even when financials are not an issue? The context was like this: “Man vs bear I choose bear, if you have to ask why, you are part of the problem” When men pushed back on that, that’s when “incel” was thrown around. By both men and women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 11:29 PM
-1	Why do divorced men seem to struggle so much even when financials are not an issue? You left my last question dangling: is it okay for men to approach and ask out women when they’re working / working out / running errands?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 10:25 PM
3	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability I’m not saying it’s their responsibility but it is all our responsibility. We built this thing and we need to keep it running now. So there is a problem coming and we either need more people or we need to reorganize society around a more sustainable idea. Couples spending all their time working at corporations for dual incomes to support a house, two cars, day care, and all their consumption etc etc is not going to make that happen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 10:23 PM
0	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability That’s not how it works out. What happens at sully is by sharing the burden, the total burden is increased on both. Both have to work more to pay for child care, both careers suffer, and then when it’s not enough, they both turn to the government asking for childcare subsidies and tax credits. The ideal situation is someone stays home (man or woman) someone works (man or woman) and we go back to raising our own children instead of asking the state to do it while we work at corporate jobs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 10:20 PM
7	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability And so what you think the human race would just be peaceful if it was only women? War is human nature, its survival of the fittest. Women will be the first ones to tell men to go find resources when she’s hungry. And when those resources are in neighboring territories, she will fully support the idea of men going to those territories and taking those resources by violent force if it means her own survival. Do not pretend that it’s just men killing men for men’s sake. Back home are women and chil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 10:14 PM
3	Why do divorced men seem to struggle so much even when financials are not an issue? We must run in different circles. During Man vs Bear it was be try common for me to see posts from women calling men incels. I was on Threads during all that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 10:10 PM
0	Status is everything for men It’s not about me, I don’t date unemployed women and I never said I did. Why do you assume otherwise? But the fact remains no matter what your husband thinks of you, unemployed women have no problem finding dates. Unemployed men certainly do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 10:08 PM
2	Status is everything for men If men don’t think about other men, no one will.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 10:00 PM
8	Status is everything for men The truth is high school never stops.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 09:21 PM
-2	Status is everything for men Most women don’t date unemployed or underemployed men. I’m assuming your standards require some degree of income, yea? You’re not dating a guy working the McDonald’s drive thru right? Conversely men will be fine dating an unemployed woman who lives at home in her parent’s basement. No ick to be found.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 09:20 PM
8	Why do divorced men seem to struggle so much even when financials are not an issue? That’s what those men do. They have bro night every two weeks, do OLD, and they get frustrated at the lack of matches. They turn to r-dating and are told by bluepill to “get some hobbies, take salsa lessons or go to trivia night. Just be yourself and put yourself out there”. So they go to salsa and trivia, and still don’t find success. That’s when they turn to RP, they get some legit advice, work on themselves, and finally find success.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 09:10 PM
1	Why do divorced men seem to struggle so much even when financials are not an issue? And now women derisively call men “incels” if they don’t have a woman or are even suspected of not having one 🤷	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 09:02 PM
1	Why do divorced men seem to struggle so much even when financials are not an issue? We are expected to expend our body and our health to achieve what we can provide. Our time and our bodies are all we have to give the world. Just as women are expected to risk their health and sacrifice their bodies to give birth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 09:01 PM
3	Why do divorced men seem to struggle so much even when financials are not an issue? I mean you’re picking up on why RP exists — it tells men that it’s okay to look inside and be the best version of yourself, for yourself. Maybe this is not earth shattering to women, but to men RP might be the first group to ever say this to them. RP men do follow through on RP advice. But there are so many forces out there telling a man to sacrifice himself for the greater good that it’s often lost.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 09:00 PM
6	Why do divorced men seem to struggle so much even when financials are not an issue? When you are raised as a man you are taught your worth is what you can do for others. It’s hard to reprogram that during the worst period of your life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 08:56 PM
5	Why do divorced men seem to struggle so much even when financials are not an issue? The aggregate is highly skewed by the 65+ crowd; the report you linked shows that from 35-44 it’s tied, and under that women remarry at a higher rate. Furthermore the gap has been closing and these data are 10 years old, so the gap may be more pronounced.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 08:55 PM
-1	Why do divorced men seem to struggle so much even when financials are not an issue? Only if he’s ugly. If he’s attractive, then he’s immediately accepted and he doesn’t have to lurk because women are eager to date him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 08:46 PM
6	Why do divorced men seem to struggle so much even when financials are not an issue? Well I’ll tell you what happened to me. My wife systematically isolated me from my support network when we were together. Couldn’t see certain friends because they were shady to her. Couldn’t see female friends because she didn’t trust them and thought they were into me. Moved closer to her parents so I only saw my family very rarely. We only went out with her friends. So when I left her, my friend network was gone. My family network was strained. She turned all her friends against me. Meanwhile…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 08:37 PM
4	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability I’m talking about fucking, not trading reproduction as a commodity 🙄 Kids are not a luxury. Maybe at an individual level but our who society is predicated on constant population growth and the expectation the younger generation will be able to support the older ones. Just look at social security, it’s a ponzu scheme. But as long as the younger Gen is larger and able to pay into it, we can support the older generation. This all stops if the younger generations start shrinking	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 08:30 PM
11	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability Men die so women and children don’t have to. Men have always been first in the meat grinder — don’t pretend women don’t appreciate that state of affairs. Look at Ukraine. Russian women who support Putin and that war and are happy to send their sons and husbands in place of themselves. Ukrainian women are happy to leave Ukrainian men on the front lines to defend their home instead of fighting in the trenches themselves. Ukrainian women were happy to leave the country while men were forced to stay…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 08:25 PM
4	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability Well this is why it’s a trope for women in high powered careers to be taking hormones to undergo IVF or other fertilization procedure once they are in their 40s and ready to settle down. Instead of doing it the way humans have been since the Stone Age, we now turn to modern science to achieve the same result. Which of course also funnels money into corporate coffers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 08:08 PM
-2	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability Whatever label you want to use, sure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 08:01 PM
6	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability Both parents working is creating a sick society IMO. We have both parents off chasing corporate profits while children are being left to be raised by nannies and daycares. The nannies and daycares are so expensive because they also need to make a profit, so now rearing children is a profit center. It’s so bad now people expect the government to subsidize it, which is just going to drive more and more dollars, in this case tax dollars, to corporations. So you got two people working all day, no on…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 07:51 PM
0	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability It’s a movie reference.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 07:45 PM
5	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability How did it work in the past? A SAHM and a full time working dad is how I grew up, my parents grew up, and my grandparents grew up, and it worked. One of the problems with modern society is two incomes are expected and so things are priced accordingly. It’s like, well we have to work two jobs because we have to afford child care for the kid because we can’t stay at home, because we have to work two jobs. Buy the car to work the job, work the job to buy the car. A viscous cycle of increasing expen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 07:42 PM
-3	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability Personally I don’t. I always supported my woman fully so she would be free to support me instead of spending her time making some CEO richer. Maybe that’s just me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 07:40 PM
11	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability I think the men who want that role are the ones who have been well socialized to perform in them. Like you said, teachers are a good example, but tell a woman you’re a teacher and prepare to be next’d.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 07:35 PM
-8	There are rational reasons for working class men to dislike female empowerment; Women irrespective of their living conditions or ideology will always be hypergamous. There is no egalitarian utopia at the end of the female empowerment rainbow, just more male disposability The problem is the men who are fine with being stay at home dads are not attractive to women. Women want men that conform to masculine gender roles and then are shocked when they don’t want to bend those gender roles down the line. I know plenty of men who would love a breadwinner wife that would allow him to stay at home and raise kids / take care of the household. But those women are chasing higher status men, not looking for Mr Mom.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 04:33 PM
3	Men would never get away with the generalization and fearmongering done by the most popular women centric subreddit. when Biden got elected they stormed the government That’s not really a great comparison because the Trump Campaign orchestrated January 6 by stoking anger and fear to intentionally cause that outcome. I do not think the left would fare any better in the thrall of a populist demagogue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 01:09 AM
5	Men’s reaction to the 4B movement is disgusting and justifies women picking the bear. Call it whatever you want, you said it yourself: “unwanted romantic or sexual overtures”. When you he is attractive they aren’t unwanted. That’s what the other poster was referring to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 01:01 AM
0	Men’s reaction to the 4B movement is disgusting and justifies women picking the bear. According to this source 54% of all WW who voted went for Trump: https://apnews.com/article/election-harris-trump-women-latinos-black-voters-0f3fbda3362f3dcfe41aa6b858f22d12	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 09:42 PM
2	Men’s reaction to the 4B movement is disgusting and justifies women picking the bear. You’re missing the point. PP and BP men always come at this from the perspective “well I have a gf and I’m just myself so do what I did and be yourself” RP advice is for men who have no success and for them being themselves is a detriment. More often than not, going out and trying leads to just a string of discouraging failures. No one is saying obsess over celebrities, but these men need role models, and they need to understand what genuine female interest looks like. It’s hard to observe that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 06:25 PM
8	Men’s reaction to the 4B movement is disgusting and justifies women picking the bear. Things like “don’t ask women out when they are at work / running errands / working out”. These rules only apply to men who those women are not attracted to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 06:15 PM
–	Men’s reaction to the 4B movement is disgusting and justifies women picking the bear. Your proof is a mock trial?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 05:33 PM
0	Men’s reaction to the 4B movement is disgusting and justifies women picking the bear. Frankly the out pouring of misandry after the election where women voted for Trump and stayed home from voting for Kamala is what really gets me. Women are so eager to blame men, but they can’t comprehend 55% of WW voting for Trump. They skip right over that fact and then talk about how men are the problem — men need to be taught a lesson, men need to suffer, they’re not going to associate with men, they’re not going to hire men, they’re going to start being greedy and selfish like men (read all…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/24 05:15 PM
1	If feminist pages and women in general talked more about different issues that men face, that would help get men out of the red pill / alt right / anti SJW rabbit hole I think that’s wrong, I think many of the structures feminism has put up run counter to men’s safety, freedom, and liberty. I think feminism needs to be deconstructed before men’s and women’s issues will make progress, yes. For instance, in my state it’s possible for a woman to file a PFA which is a temporary restraining order against a man. It takes nothing more than an accusation to have him ejected from his home, taken from his kids, potentially ruining his life. Feminism thinks this is a gre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 07:13 PM
2	If feminist pages and women in general talked more about different issues that men face, that would help get men out of the red pill / alt right / anti SJW rabbit hole MensLib is focused on trying to shoehorn men’s issues into the context of feminism. If that can’t be done, they are labeled as “baseless” by the feminist mods.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 06:37 PM
2	If not The Red Pill? What should men follow? Okay so no advice to help him with dating? And that there is why men turn to RP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 06:22 PM
2	If not The Red Pill? What should men follow? Again, the definition of “actionable” is not “taking an action”. There is a matter of practicality involved. If being yourself does not work to get you a date, being yourself is not actionable to get you a date. And it’s great that you believe all humans have value but we are talking about the dating market here. What intrinsic value does a man have on the dating market?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 06:16 PM
4	If feminist pages and women in general talked more about different issues that men face, that would help get men out of the red pill / alt right / anti SJW rabbit hole Not my experience at all. PPD is much more even handed than MensLibs. And it’s interesting that who gets to decide what constitutes a baseless attack against feminism on MensLib are feminists. Super legit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 06:12 PM
4	If not The Red Pill? What should men follow? Okay, many men do that man’s achieve zero success. What advice do you have for those men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 06:06 PM
2	If not The Red Pill? What should men follow? That’s not what actionable means. What intrinsic value does a man have?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 06:05 PM
1	If feminist pages and women in general talked more about different issues that men face, that would help get men out of the red pill / alt right / anti SJW rabbit hole https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014&context=jlasc	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 05:58 PM
1	If feminist pages and women in general talked more about different issues that men face, that would help get men out of the red pill / alt right / anti SJW rabbit hole In the past I feel it promoted equality and achieved important milestones in women’s rights. Today I feel it exists to create feminists and perpetuate feminism, which is why I’m no longer a feminist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 05:08 PM
1	If feminist pages and women in general talked more about different issues that men face, that would help get men out of the red pill / alt right / anti SJW rabbit hole What’s funny? A feminist running on a fully feminist platform failed to win the popular vote (first time in 20 years) and was defeated in an electoral landslide. I’m laughing too but for a different reason I suppose. Feminism as a movement will take a long time to recover when the platform has proven to lose at the polls. Future candidates will decenter feminist causes if they hope to win. such as Communism for instance. Capitalism for another. Or modern Christianity, especially the Catholic Chu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 04:50 PM
1	If feminist pages and women in general talked more about different issues that men face, that would help get men out of the red pill / alt right / anti SJW rabbit hole Yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 04:35 PM
3	If not The Red Pill? What should men follow? Okay so now imagine a man has tried being himself and it didn’t work. What advice do you give him?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 04:19 PM
3	If not The Red Pill? What should men follow? Men need actionable advice because women are repulsed when these men are just being themselves. This is why the RP exists, because a man following your advice who isn’t already attractive to women will just continue to be unattractive to women. Your advice only works for women. A man has to try to be attractive. Even women who don’t try at all can find success with men because they have intrinsic value. Men have no such intrinsic value.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 04:13 PM
6	If not The Red Pill? What should men follow? That wisdom isn’t conventional anymore tho. Conventional wisdom men are raised with today says that women want nice respectful men, that the main thing women want in a relationship is to feel safe and appreciated, and physical beauty is only skin deep so what really matters is what’s inside. When men get into the dating market they try to embody these ideals and fail. Men quickly learn women love to be teased; what they want most in a relationship is excitement; while physical beauty is only ski…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 04:07 PM
13	If not The Red Pill? What should men follow? Yeah actually Sam is the ideal male role model. A working man. Loyal. Brave. Resourceful. Community-focused. Compassionate. And after he goes on his personal growth journey he gets the girl, gets the family, and lives happily ever after.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 03:59 PM
2	If feminist pages and women in general talked more about different issues that men face, that would help get men out of the red pill / alt right / anti SJW rabbit hole Trump stopped that fully grown movement in its tracks on Tuesday. Democrats won’t try to run another feminist candidate for a generation if they’re smart. If not they’ll keep losing. Feminism can either adapt or it can become another in a long list of “-isms” that ran its course and became self-interested. The way back to abortion rights is not pushing the feminist agenda on the rest of us from on high, which is what Kamala represented and why she was roundly rejected.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 03:47 PM
3	If feminist pages and women in general talked more about different issues that men face, that would help get men out of the red pill / alt right / anti SJW rabbit hole So right, I wish this hypocrisy was talked about more; feminists often talk about how 50% of Fortune 500 CEOs need to be women but never about how coal miners and steel workers need gender parity. Meanwhile you look at fields like tech where women have been given every opportunity in the world for decades and somehow it’s still not enough. They have women-only tech conferences, women-only hiring quotas, women-only scholarships, women-only internships, women-only educational program, women-only s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 03:37 PM
2	If feminist pages and women in general talked more about different issues that men face, that would help get men out of the red pill / alt right / anti SJW rabbit hole I’ll give you an example: in my state it’s possible for a woman to accuse a man of abuse, without evidence, and have him ejected from his home and separated from his children. Because it’s evidence-free and there are no repercussions for abusing this system, women freely use it to falsely accuse men of abuse, which has ruined men’s lives. But this system is beyond reproach because if you try to reform it, feminists come out and say you are pro abusing women, that fixing the system will ruin wome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 03:16 PM
0	If feminist pages and women in general talked more about different issues that men face, that would help get men out of the red pill / alt right / anti SJW rabbit hole In education I’ll give you an example where women have made things worse for men. We had a program where young boys and girls went to the local college to learn about STEM topics. Well feminists got involved and they decided because there is a gender gap in STEM, the program should be girls only. Great for the girls, sucks for the boys. And you can’t even advocate to bring back the program for the boys because you’d be labeled as someone who doesn’t want to fix the gender gap, even though the ge…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 03:11 PM
3	If feminist pages and women in general talked more about different issues that men face, that would help get men out of the red pill / alt right / anti SJW rabbit hole If they want to advance their political agenda and grow their movement, then out of self interest women need to validate men. That’s what the results of last Tuesday indicate at least. Feminists are free to continue down this losing path as long as they want tho.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 03:02 PM
1	If feminist pages and women in general talked more about different issues that men face, that would help get men out of the red pill / alt right / anti SJW rabbit hole lol askfeminists has been very interesting to read since Tuesday. Misandry has been at 11. It’s no surprise you were banned for disagreeing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 02:59 PM
6	If feminist pages and women in general talked more about different issues that men face, that would help get men out of the red pill / alt right / anti SJW rabbit hole There is a lot of truth to this. Both genders had their roles and expectations, and women broke free from that. That fight was a legal one - gaining access to education and employment opportunities. Business leaders and lawmakers needed to be convinced. For men, breaking out of our gender roles means convincing women that homemakers and stay at home dads make viable partners. There are no laws or corporations to change, only women’s minds. But women don’t want to date stay at home dads, they sti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 02:32 PM
3	If feminist pages and women in general talked more about different issues that men face, that would help get men out of the red pill / alt right / anti SJW rabbit hole MensLib is not for men at all. PPD is one of the only places men can talk about their issues without getting banned.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/24 02:10 PM
–	Why do you on average like masculine men so much if they often times cause so much trouble? Reported for violation of subreddit rules. Again, wall of text. If you don’t understand, wall of text is not going to bring you closer to understanding. Same with calling me dumb. Sorry I didn’t see your original comment in this thread, I wasn’t replying to that one but it really proves my point. Being a masculine man and being nice is enough. Being masculine alone is also enough for most women to date and fuck. Being nice alone is enough for almost no women. So all the words you have to say abo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/24 07:18 PM
–	Why do you on average like masculine men so much if they often times cause so much trouble? It’s the fact that you typed a wall of text about how nice and sweet he is and that’s what makes him attractive to you, but you skipped over the small fact that he’s physically conventionally attractive. To men, this seems disingenuous. You don’t what a guy who is nice and sweet, you want a hot guy who is nice and sweet. There’s a difference.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/24 04:24 PM
4	RP men, would you be more embarrassed of dating someone who’s openly a feminist or someone who used to sleep around? Depending on how promiscuous she is, the circle can be quite large. That’s the point, if she has fewer partners, there’s a lower chance of her banging a dude in your circle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/24 11:13 PM
9	RP men, would you be more embarrassed of dating someone who’s openly a feminist or someone who used to sleep around? It goes like this: “Hey friends, this is my gf Jane” Friends: “oh dude, fyi I banged her too”	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/24 10:52 PM
1	Will the recent election in the US change how you choose your sex partners? Son you don’t even eat your woman out you said, just start there! And it’s an acquired taste, it’s no worse than coffee or hoppy beer IMO. If you can stand those you can stand ass	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/24 01:59 AM
1	Will the recent election in the US change how you choose your sex partners? Bro dooooo it. First, she’ll love love love it. Second, if you get over that mental hurdle, you will fell like there is NOTHING you can’t do. Eating ass is the most freeing feeling in the world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/24 01:17 AM
–	Relationships ruin men So he should have picked better. Agreed. As a woman, why do you think women typically don’t apply the same standard to other women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/24 01:15 AM
1	There’s too much casual misandry on the internet You can refer to them as Republicans. They are representatives of the tens of millions of men and women who voted for them. Thanks for your words but they are just words. I’m more likely to be on the receiving end of a false rape accusation (which I have been), than to get any justice for my multiple rapes. So that’s why I understand where men are at right now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/24 05:56 PM
–	Relationships ruin men Depends on the reason. Being dumped because “it’s not you it’s me” is one thing. Having to dump someone you love because they cheated on you or abused you is another.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/24 05:49 PM
–	Relationships ruin men What if he has been cheated on or abused? Is that his fault too?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/24 05:48 PM
2	There’s too much casual misandry on the internet “Men” are not taking away the rights of women and girls. “Republicans” have been voted into office by men AND women to enact a democratically decided agenda. Blame Republicans if you have to blame anyone. Or blame evangelicals. Heck, blame conservative-voting men AND women if you must. But do not blame “men” as a group. Nuance is key to understanding this complex topic. we have become desensitized to women being raped Well maybe feminists should stop calling everything rape then? According to th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/24 05:21 PM
0	There’s too much casual misandry on the internet It makes it clear that feminism took over liberalism. Harris ran on feminism as policy and lost on that platform.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/24 05:16 PM
0	There’s too much casual misandry on the internet He has already done enough — he defeated the avatar of feminism, stopping feminist progress in its tracks. What ya’ll don’t understand is that feminism is bad for us. You think it’s all about equality of the sexes, maybe at one time it was — but today feminism is about female supremacy. You think Trump doesn’t have answers for men? Neither did a Harris. She didn’t say a damn word about men but she had plenty of plans for women. She said she was going to be a president for all but that was empty …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/24 05:06 PM
8	There’s too much casual misandry on the internet Yesterday the vibe flipped. People saying they were going to stop hiring men, they were going to stop being nice, divorce their husbands, stop volunteering, start being more greedy because men. It got to the point a woman of color had to call out the WW for focusing on men when WW voted majority for Trump. The hate is strong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/24 04:26 PM
–	Women can't complain that men voted for Trump, men are just sticking up for themselves Specifically he tore down feminism. Kamala ran as the avatar of feminism and she lost so bad feminism is thoroughly set back as a movement. It would have been ascendant if she won, but now it’s the opposite.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/24 11:19 AM
–	Women can't complain that men voted for Trump, men are just sticking up for themselves A good one?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/24 10:07 AM
-1	Has TRP affected your willingness to date? There’s going to be at least 30 million votes cast by women today alone in support of ending abortion rights nationally.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 09:30 PM
1	Has TRP affected your willingness to date? lol bro I am RP but that sounds like gobbledygook to me — you are further into the manosphere than most men. You need a literal detox. Tate does not represent all RP men just like you and your toxic views about men don’t represent all women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 06:39 PM
1	Has TRP affected your willingness to date? Exactly, typical use includes wrong use. And even if we assume it doesn’t, you haven’t addressed anything else in my post which would mitigate pregnancy. If your point of view were true I’d have 50 kids by now. But I use condoms properly, she has birth control, and also I don’t ejaculate inside of her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 06:37 PM
1	Has TRP affected your willingness to date? A lot of people do and a lot of people don’t. You can deny the dynamics and assume all RP men are bed but that’s not critical thinking, it’s engaging your own confirmation biases. Same thing you are supposedly against. my comment said nothing about men generally This whole thread is about OP becoming wary of men generally because of her own biases against RP, so my comment exists within that context. If you want to disagree with OP you are free to voice that, but your comments so far only suppor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 06:29 PM
-2	Has TRP affected your willingness to date? What you’re missing is that many men come to RP naturally through their own experience, with a sense of bitterness. They were BP men doing everything women say they should do to find success, and became bitter when they found out actually that advice does not work. There are those who foster that bitterness like Tate, but there are others trying to work with men to redirect their bitterness into self improvement. Those red pill men improving themselves won’t even be looking for you, and when the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 04:27 PM
-3	Has TRP affected your willingness to date? As with any belief or mindset, there are a range of a range of people who ascribe to it and come to extreme conclusions. When I read the worst feminism has to offer, I also want to stay away from women as much as you want to stay away from men having read that shit. From what I read the writing level is terrible, the thinking is muddled, and the guy seems to be running a grift where he will charge to “consult” on your lady problems. Most men aren’t doing that. If you think he represents all men,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 03:20 PM
-2	Has TRP affected your willingness to date? Your reproductive rights being stripped is not an example of men thinking women are subhuman — hundreds of millions votes cats by women have been in favor of stripping you of those rights as well. Today, over 30 million women will cast an enthusiastic vote in favor of banning abortion nationally. Yes 10s of millions of men will as well, but 10s of millions will vote to defend your rights. So it’s not a gendered issue it’s a political issue. Don’t be blaming men when plenty of women enthusiastica…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 03:08 PM
2	Has TRP affected your willingness to date? You can’t just translate global condom failure rate directly to pregnancy — 85% includes misuse. If you use them properly the failure rate plummets. And even when a condom does fail, it doesn’t necessarily result in pregnancy - they may notice and replace it before he ejaculates, or she may be on birth control as well, or she’s not at the right point in her cycle, or it just doesn’t take. Have you ever tried to conceive? Yes sometimes pregnancy just happens, but other times conceiving is very di…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/24 02:32 PM
4	Feminists, what do you think about the reaction to Margot Robbie having a son? Yeah, it’s like everyone here will say it’s bad and shouldn’t be said, which of course, but it’d be a national conversation if people were saying that about any baby girl, let alone a celebrity’s baby. When it’s said about a baby boy all that happens is a post on PPD and some tiktoks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/24 11:03 PM
1	What is the best way for a man to get validation ? I dunno that seems gross to me. You can’t get validation by pretending to be someone else. If you’re that desperate for a woman’s praise you can just pay for it — it’ll be just as genuine as your suggestion. The first step is to let go of the need / desire to be validated by women. It’s pointless. If men want validation, they should join a local men’s group. Not like Tate but a support group by men for men. Speak your truth to them, don’t hide yourself, and they will lift you up for who you are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/24 11:13 PM
2	Men are now the most exploited class of people on the internet People really need to look into the twitch -> onlyfans pipeline. OF girls love to dress up and play video games with underage boys, then they link to their OF in their linktree, where they ask for a fee to see them naked. It’s predatory and gross and literally grooming.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 04:16 PM
2	Q4A: What are your most "self-contradictory" attractions? That kind of attraction is very fragile. Men are only afforded to act in a feminine way as long as they have enough stereotypical masculine behaviors and qualities, and only if the feminine behaviors are not prevalent. Your example really illustrates this: A strong masculine man liking kittens and puppies. He’s nominally strong and masculine, but sometimes when a sad commercial is on or a cute thing is near, he will lose his composure and demonstrate some internal emotions by shedding a quiet te…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 07:35 PM
2	UN also fakes the Gender Inequality Index, to paint women as victims Respected by sociologists. I don’t respect sociologists tho. The kind of research I want is something reproducible. As far as I’m concerned this is pseudoscience. You didn’t provide data you provided an abstract. You actually have no idea what this study says because you haven’t read it right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/24 06:34 PM
2	UN also fakes the Gender Inequality Index, to paint women as victims “Psychological autopsy study” aka we made up some things about what we think dead people were thinking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/24 04:32 PM
2	Would you give a woman over 30 years old a chance if she is looking for marriage? I guess the thing that prevents me from going there is that if I’m going into a new relationship, she’s going to be my number one priority, so I’d want the same. I’m not giving up my peace to compete with a kid and a bio dad for standing in the relationship. Would rather just find someone single and childless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/24 02:15 PM
3	Would you give a woman over 30 years old a chance if she is looking for marriage? I’m just about 40 so no, I don’t think so. We’ll see in 10 years.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/24 12:43 PM
20	Would you give a woman over 30 years old a chance if she is looking for marriage? I’m not getting married again and I don’t want kids. So if she’s fine with that, then I would absolutely. Age is just a number. I don’t care about past hookups, doesn’t matter if she’s divorced, but I’m not dealing with any kids. As long as she’s not Christian conservative or a radical feminist, then we’ll get along.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/24 01:37 AM
2	Do most men on dating apps just try to match with virtually every woman? It’s tough at my age (38) because most women want kids or have kids. So that filters out most likes I get, but I state clearly in my bio I do not want kids. But when I set out to get a date I can usually find one with someone who is at my level. It’s just, I’m usually not motivated because there are sooooo many conservatives and Christians, I can’t even. I relaxed that filter once and allowed some Conservative matches and it was the worst idea ever (second date she told me she doesn’t believe in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/24 06:41 PM
1	Do most men on dating apps just try to match with virtually every woman? No way. Conservative, Christian, or kids is an immediate left swipe. Then I’ll check if she’s cute. Then I’ll check profile for interests. 90% of my swipes are left, I never max out my right swipes per day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/24 12:32 PM
1	The male to female transgender rate as well as suicide rate in the US is around 3x higher in men than women. When will society simply accept that men have it much harder? I’m pretty much the same way but in a male body. I spent a long time wondering if I’m trans but I also came to the conclusion I’d be the same if I were in a female body. I tried for a long time to be outwardly masculine because that’s what society says I have to be. When I act how my brain says to act, people get a read on me that says “feminine” and therefore “gay”. But I have always been attracted to women which confuses people. I responded to a comment today that rubbed me the wrong way sayin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/24 02:49 AM
2	Women Chase and Casually Date Men Who Are Outliers That Can Provide Her Life Value Just your average 6’5” man 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/24 05:52 PM
2	Men are just as irrational/emotional as women. (If anything, they are arguably more so on average.) Disclosing vulnerabilities, yea. But men need to understand there is a limit to what women tolerate from a man in terms of being vulnerable. For example, I’ve gotten to the point with several women where I’ve felt safe to share the fact I have been sexually abused in the past. Every time, she says she understands in the moment. But it’s followed by a quick exit from the relationship. Another thing men should not share with women is any information about sexual interactions with other men. Again,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/24 05:25 PM
1	The male to female transgender rate as well as suicide rate in the US is around 3x higher in men than women. When will society simply accept that men have it much harder? So you just don’t believe trans people exist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/24 04:29 AM
2	The legality of abortion is not a gendered issue and "men trying to control women's bodies" is a bad explanation I’m a stereotypical American; America is the only country I care about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/24 03:36 AM
1	The male to female transgender rate as well as suicide rate in the US is around 3x higher in men than women. When will society simply accept that men have it much harder? I hear the same things and I agree that it’s under diagnosed in females for those reasons, but it’s also under diagnosed for males for the same reasons. So the under diagnosis is on both sides. I say this as a man who went 38 years before I was diagnosed. I presented the same as women typically present, inattention instead of hyperactivity. Learned to mask heavily. I’m part of a community on Threads of late diagnosed individuals and there are I would say equal numbers of men and women coming to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/24 02:22 AM
6	The legality of abortion is not a gendered issue and "men trying to control women's bodies" is a bad explanation Indeed: Majorities of both men (61%) and women (64%) express support for legal abortion. Hm… well that doesn’t explain it. What else could it be? Conservative Republicans and Republican leaners are far more likely to say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases than to say that it should be legal (71% vs. 27%). Among moderate and liberal Republicans, 67% say abortion should be legal, while 31% say it should be illegal. The vast majority of liberal Democrats and Democratic leaners (96%) su…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/24 12:59 PM
18	The legality of abortion is not a gendered issue and "men trying to control women's bodies" is a bad explanation They also tend to be human. I mean, if we are going to blame 50% of the human race why not 100%? In reality, the group of people trying to ban abortion is not “men” they are Republicans and religious not jobs. Blame who is responsible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/24 12:55 PM
1	The male to female transgender rate as well as suicide rate in the US is around 3x higher in men than women. When will society simply accept that men have it much harder? Wait you don’t believe it’s possible to be a transwoman and a lesbian? Why not? I’m sorry that you were banned for speaking about your experience with a trans person tho, that’s what happens to men when they speak out their experience with women (in subreddits other than PPD). Feels not great doesn’t it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/24 12:21 PM
1	The male to female transgender rate as well as suicide rate in the US is around 3x higher in men than women. When will society simply accept that men have it much harder? My working theory is that autism and being trans are inextricably linked. Following that, autism appears at higher rates in men. Therefore MtF is more prevalent than FtM. The suicide rate is tricky. Men tend to choose more fatal methods like gunshot while women choose pills which are often reversed. Doesn’t mean they are having a better time of things necessarily.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/24 12:04 PM
2	How honest are you with your sexual history, and how honest would you want your partner to be? She’s mocking his response to the answer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/24 08:00 PM
0	How honest are you with your sexual history, and how honest would you want your partner to be? 0% honest my past is none of her damn business and hers is none of mine. Literally do not care.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/24 07:58 PM
1	There is no excuse to be attracted to shitty women, especially when you berate bad boy chasers. Now I’m wondering if a grandma really contacted me or if it was one of these dudes doing an experiment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/24 12:32 AM
1	Men: What romance would you like to see from your woman? I guess the way I see it is romantic gestures are unique and one of a kind, which is what I was getting at when I said I couldn’t hire anyone in the world to do it. There are lots of people who love me and would do things for me like helping me out of a jam, helping me move and so forth, but I don’t consider them romantic gestures just because they love me. There has to be some other component — it has to be something they would do for me and only me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 03:46 AM
1	Men: What romance would you like to see from your woman? But it wouldn’t mean anything!	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 03:32 AM
1	Men: What romance would you like to see from your woman? The love languages as far as I know are made up. I’ve been told they were created by some pastor and were intended to trick women. But I don’t really know. Anyway, when I say acts of service I just mean the things you generally hire people for or that are chores. Like if a woman cleans my house that doesn’t really mean anything to me because I can just hire someone to do that. I don’t think what I described are acts of service because there’s no one in the world I can hire to write me a love let…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 03:23 AM
1	What do women mean when they ask men to be "Romantic." Like, what does this even mean? What exactly are you saying? Yeah funny how that works out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 02:53 AM
0	Men: What romance would you like to see from your woman? I’ve been posting in the other thread directed toward women and I answered this question there; for me romance is adding depth and character to the relationship. I saw some people there saying a man being romantic is when he knows to bring her candy, do her chores, or pump her gas to give three examples posted there. By contrast, for me romance is less about it what she can do for me and more about her creating a unique space for our relationship to grow. Examples: writing me poetry expressing h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 02:49 AM
2	What do women mean when they ask men to be "Romantic." Like, what does this even mean? What exactly are you saying? I guess before today I’ve just never heard anyone say “how romantic” at a man pumping gas.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 02:38 AM
2	The Reason Why Single Women Are So Entitled I’m new to the idea of pills, I chose that one because I’m not purple and I’m not blue. How is red pill implicated by this picture?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 02:14 AM
0	What do women mean when they ask men to be "Romantic." Like, what does this even mean? What exactly are you saying? No what I described was expressing myself and my feelings. Compiling my favorite memories of our relationship is something I did for us. We looked back at that for years to come. All the candy bars I ever got her are gone and forgotten yet she’s still talking about that book. I’m not making the case that women only appreciate what men can do for them, you are when you say pumping gas and doing your chores is romantic. As far as your husband, I don’t know him, but I’m sure he’d love if you cooked…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 01:45 AM
2	The Reason Why Single Women Are So Entitled wtf did I just read?! I was expecting they were just swiping on the pic, but they read the bio and still swiped???	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 01:17 AM
1	What do women mean when they ask men to be "Romantic." Like, what does this even mean? What exactly are you saying? I guess all the things you describe are just table stakes for a relationship to me. Romance is going above and beyond to really bring depth to the relationship. For instance for my wife’s birthday one year I made a scrapbook of all our concert stubs I have been saving and I put my favorite memory and a photo of us with each one. I put a lot of thought and care into it, and I did that because I wanted to communicate how much I loved her. I can’t do that by pumping gas. I believe that romance come…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 01:05 AM
2	What do women mean when they ask men to be "Romantic." Like, what does this even mean? What exactly are you saying? I think it’s a first that I’ve heard someone describe pumping gas as a romantic act, but whatever works for you!	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/24 12:37 AM
3	Women uphold “toxic masculinity” more than men do No, I don’t give a fuck what women think about me. But a man in the dating market who wants to maximize his chances of being with a woman, any woman, is going to choose to wear pants instead of a dress. It’s a very specific kind of woman who will date a man who wears dresses.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 10:32 PM
0	What do women mean when they ask men to be "Romantic." Like, what does this even mean? What exactly are you saying? Sure but for me I always thought a relationship was friendship + romance. So when a lot of the comments here describe romance as things I do for my friends, I’m left wondering what romance is. To me, for instance, writing a love note or poem to someone professing my love is romantic. But I notice none of the women here (so far that I’ve read) are listing things like that a romantic. It seems many of the responses here are talking about what services the man can provide: bringing snacks, taking h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 10:12 PM
3	Women uphold “toxic masculinity” more than men do lol that man has vastly narrowed his dating prospects, very few women find that masculine and attractive. Take it from me an effeminate man. There’s a very narrow band where this works.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 09:36 PM
4	Women uphold “toxic masculinity” more than men do I feel like all that ends after high school. Not one man has called me gay in a derisive way since then. Women, however, keep doing it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 09:27 PM
1	What do women mean when they ask men to be "Romantic." Like, what does this even mean? What exactly are you saying? Yeah I’m looking at these examples and a theme is emerging. Remembering to buy certain things, remembering to take her places she wants to go, do her chores…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 08:44 PM
2	What do women mean when they ask men to be "Romantic." Like, what does this even mean? What exactly are you saying? I’m confused because those examples are things I do for friends except back massage. What makes buying a candy bar romantic? Because he’s your bf?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 08:41 PM
2	There is no excuse to be attracted to shitty women, especially when you berate bad boy chasers. Well that’s data, that’s what I was asking about. I was not aware men do this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 06:44 PM
1	There is no excuse to be attracted to shitty women, especially when you berate bad boy chasers. Men and women face equal amounts of abuse in relationships. Why shouldn’t men be protected? It’s a crime to file a false police report. But we’ve given women a loophole where they can file false PFAs against men and face zero consequences. Women shouldn’t be able to go to a judge with zero evidence and have a man forcibly removed from his own home, then face zero consequences for that. Men don’t have that ability but women do. Why do you excuse that? What would you do if a woman filed a false re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 06:32 PM
1	There is no excuse to be attracted to shitty women, especially when you berate bad boy chasers. “Women exist under the same laws and face the same consequences” Nooooo this is highly wrong. In my state, PA, we have a system where women can file for a protective order without any evidence. A preliminary protective order is usually granted which restricts the rights and freedoms of the man without recourse until a hearing. Women can do this maliciously and they face zero consequences for having done so. On the flip side, the system is not built for men. They are laughed at when they ask for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 06:08 PM
1	There is no excuse to be attracted to shitty women, especially when you berate bad boy chasers. Waaaait is there any data on this? I’m 38 and had a 68 year old woman trying to hit me up… are they out there getting that much play from young dudes???	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 06:01 PM
1	There is no excuse to be attracted to shitty women, especially when you berate bad boy chasers. Point 2 is keeping me off online dating. I won’t do it anymore because of the number of times I’ve run into a woman fresh out a breakup, trying to get over her ex, and she just slots my right in to his place in her life. And of course she treats me the same way, always looking to fight. One woman tried to pick a fight with me and I responded to her with kindness, and it threw her off completely because she was expecting me to explode like her ex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 05:58 PM
2	There is no excuse to be attracted to shitty women, especially when you berate bad boy chasers. Do you have any research backing your last point about internal and external factors?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 05:49 PM
1	If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction. So it says that Margot Robbie has a lot to do with the sex appeal of Harley Quinn. Ain’t no one dressing up in the full checkered leotard with the jester hat from BTAS. No one is jerking it to that. But Margot Robbie is a gorgeous woman. Women want to emulate her, and they dress up as her. Men are understandably attracted to that. You want to make it all about men being attracted to her because she’s a psychopath, which on she actually isn’t. This ain’t “making excuses”, it’s getting the facts s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 01:48 AM
1	If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction. Harley Quinn has been a character for 30 years, but every single Harley Quinn constume you see this Halloween is going to be Margot Robbie’s recent depiction, and there’s a reason for that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 01:16 AM
1	If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction. Clopping community is not a group of people that can rival the fanbase of 50 shades. The fifty shades trilogy grossed over a billion dollars. Why do you feel the Clopping community is a good point of comparison? Only about a quarter of mlp fans are even into that. As for Harley Quinn, she’s the epitome of the manic pixie dream girl. Men absolutely go for that to their own detriment. I’m guilty of it to be sure. I think this supports my point more than yours. Also she’s not a psychopath she has H…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 01:10 AM
1	If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction. Why do you keep bringing up my little pony as if it relates to male sexuality. I’m sure you can find someone who gets off to FiM but the whole thing is about friendship, teamwork, and being kind. 50 shades is about a woman falling under the spell of a controlling man and then having a bunch of kinky sex. I dunno about FiM but the MLP movie in 2017 grossed $60 million, where as 50 shades grossed $500 million. We are talking about vastly different levels of popularity here to the point where one i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/24 12:07 AM
1	If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction. This example is incoherent because you’re using it to prove men use fiction to discern what women want. This man’s opinion isn’t born from fiction tho it’s born from ignorance about fiction. So he doesn’t prove your point, he’s just spouting off and not providing an actual argument. You said you have dozens and this is the first one you gave me. You’re supposed to make your strongest argument first. This is a weak argument your other one is better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 08:28 PM
1	If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction. Not quite. Being a male and manhood are different. Manhood is a social construct and one must demonstrate their masculine qualities in order to be considered a man by society. It’s hard to appreciate since you’re not a man who has faced that social pressure. But it’s summarized in the phrase “man up” which is said to males when they are not acting according to the social ideal. Women have a name for such males who fail to do this: incel, which sets them apart from the masculinity they desire. Ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 06:18 PM
1	If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction. Im saying gamers do not have the requisite mindset to be men. They may be male but they’re not men. Being a man means operating in the real world, not fantasy land. If they’re so concerned with such things as to be upset by them, it shows they have a mindset stuck in a basement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 05:46 PM
1	If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction. Those are gamers, not men lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 05:38 PM
1	If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction. Ah.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 05:27 PM
2	If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction. No I agreed with you but I also want to examine the argument. You’re trying to say it’s a widespread thing and say things like “he’s got 10 upvotes” to support that. So I want to see what everyone else is saying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 05:09 PM
0	If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction. I didn’t set any goalposts because I asked a question in my original statement “evidence of what”. You provided a guy confused about the plot of 50 shades using it as evidence for why women like serial killers. That’s just incoherent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 05:08 PM
1	If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction. I guess I don’t understand what “bad boys” means here, it seems like people are taking it to mean abusive and criminal men. I always thought bad boys were just men who ride motorcycles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 04:50 PM
2	If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction. Can’t you link the discussion instead of a screenshot? I want to see what they said to that. I agree 50 shades is not evidence women want to be abused.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 04:49 PM
0	If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction. I know this is the internet and Reddit and you can find evidence for anything you like if you search hard enough, but since this is PPD I was hoping you’d have a reasoned argument, not someone who clearly doesn’t know what 50 shades is about. I guess my point in asking for “evidence of what” is that 50 shades is actually evidence of something, but not a deep secret desire women have to be dominated.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 04:47 PM
3	If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction. Men have this experience all the time: Treat a woman with kindness and respect, she doesn’t give you the time of day nor pay you any attention. Your kindness is invisible. Treat a woman poorly, and she’ll give you undivided attention. She will often times act cross with you, but soon enough she’s in your DMs calling you out privately, and then it’s only a matter of time until you’re sexting. She finds your poor treatment of her irresistible. Maybe those are only women with daddy issues but I run…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 04:30 PM
1	If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction. As evidence of what tho? And be specific with an example (you have dozens) because you are talking about your interpretation of what they said, not what they said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 04:26 PM
4	If Spongebob didn't teach you marine biology, you shouldnt be using fiction to talk about women’s attraction. It’s not that we are learning things from 50 shades as if it’s a guide book. What we are learning about is how real women react to that fictional content. We also watch what other content they consume and when it’s all the same, we can run experiments by observing how they translate those fantasy desires into their real world dating behavior. Are the male characters in those books usually tall/dark/handsome? Yea. Do women usually go for those kinds of men in real life? Also yes! Where is all the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 04:12 PM
11	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Why do you think that matters to a man’s happiness?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 01:32 AM
20	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Thiiiiiiis. Women are completely blind to this, because they see everything they want as needs. When someone says your bachelor pad needs “a woman’s touch” they mean it needs to be filled with all kinds of random shit. And there is no end to how expensive that shit can get. Women will find a way to spend all your disposable income if you let them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/24 09:38 PM
2	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Those women are suuuuuper jaded. They see the worst of men and take it out online. But there are also many women who are sex workers who are super chill and love what they do. As with all industries there is a range, and you’ll find the bitter people complaining online while the happy ones are out just working.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/24 09:26 PM
8	Escorts are NOT a substitute for a healthy sex life for the vast majority of young men. Finally someone who understands it’s not about being lazy or unattractive. Some people want to have sex without a relationship. Even in a FWB situation feelings form and things get messy. With sex workers there are boundaries and they don’t expect you to change your life for them, don’t try to fix you, don’t try to marry you and isolate you from your friends and family. They don’t play mind games. They’re super sex positive and don’t shame you. They don’t rape you and they listen when you say no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/24 09:23 PM
20	Ladies, how would you feel/react to a situation like this? This is fr, I knew a guy who was rich who loved saying “I didn’t get rich by spending money”. He was sooo cheap. I had a friend whose parents bought him headlamp cleanser for his birthday. Their home was worth $10 million.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/24 07:37 PM
1	Most Women Use Dating Apps Like Men Wish They Could I play violin and do yoga, hardly men in those spaces. Violin has gotten me laid, yoga has not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 08:15 PM
2	Most Women Use Dating Apps Like Men Wish They Could Aren’t you a frat bro who married a sorority girl? You haven’t dated in over a decade, you haven’t used the apps as they exist today. Everything you say here is observation and what you see online. You’re not doing anything or meeting anyone, you have a wife. You don’t offer actionable advice for struggling men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 08:02 PM
6	Why feminist and people see the "gender gap" as an "advantage" but not the spending or dating up gap? Finding a sugar momma is next to impossible. As they say in the bowl, dick has no value.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/24 11:29 PM
5	Prostitution should be legalized Statistically speaking, women with more than 5 partners have a high chance of having dated a man who has employed the services of a sex worker, whether she knows it or not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 02:35 PM
5	Prostitution should be legalized As far as you know is the key. People don’t exactly telegraph it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 02:28 PM
3	Prostitution should be legalized The saying “you don’t pay her for sex you pay her to leave” is very true. Women have sex and firm relationships with you because they want something in return. Sometimes it’s reciprocal sex, but more often than not they want love, support, a family, and a partner. All of that costs a lot for a man in time and money. So if he doesn’t value those things, he might choose a form of companionship where he doesn’t have to promise his whole life to her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/10/24 02:17 PM
6	Feminists dehumanize men and it's time we admit it It shouldn’t be but when women frame it as “men get their feelings hurt while women are dying” then they are erasing male victims. No one is saying women aren’t victims. But men need to speak up every single time women do that. It’s gross.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 06:19 PM
1	How would you react if your son was accused of SA, and he denied it? False accusations are not always subject to prosecution. If you file a false police report yeah, but women set up these no-fault channels for themselves where they can accuse men in civil court and then if there is no recourse for a man who is falsely accused this way, and no punishment for the woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 06:07 PM
4	How would you react if your son was accused of SA, and he denied it? It’s okay to have an inside voice that is bigoted if that’s what you need to protect yourself mentally and emotionally. But when you vocalize that bigotry and start asking others to join in, they are not going to have the same need to protect themselves from others like you, and they will alienate perfectly good and helpful people by buying into your bigotry. This is what bigotry prevents social progress, and should be avoided.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 06:02 PM
4	How would you react if your son was accused of SA, and he denied it? You’re so close to getting it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 05:59 PM
1	How would you react if your son was accused of SA, and he denied it? Okay so you believe your son has good character, he’s never been in trouble for this before, and she has no proof except a story and a bruise on her throat that may or may not be a hand print, you are not sure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/10/24 05:54 PM
–	Should average men complement their dating life with escorts? may god have mercy on your soul lol how did I know god was behind this puritan shame. Gross.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 10:07 PM
–	Should average men complement their dating life with escorts? That’s not what that study said. Both men who saw sex workers and men who did not scored high. They found a marginal difference, but it does not follow that marginal difference crosses some threshold into those men being “bad”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 09:54 PM
–	Should average men complement their dating life with escorts? Not what the study says. It says this: “Given that men who display higher levels of socially deviant personality traits (e.g., the Dark Tetrad dimensions) tend to express a penchant for short-term mating, as well as heightened sensation-seeking, impulsivity, sexual risk taking, and criminality, it is likely that many clients of female sex workers possess similar personalities.” So there is no conclusion to this study, it concludes with a hypothesis.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 09:48 PM
–	Should average men complement their dating life with escorts? lol again with Craigslist studies. This one is oversampling black men looking for sex workers in west and south Chicago. You can keep quoting these “studies” but your problem is they’re all agenda driven. You see like 30 women working on this in the credits. They’re all liberal arts majors working for advocacy groups. They thrive on publishing these highly biased studies and rely on people like you to launder them in the real world quoting these bogus stats. You’re not fooling anyone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 09:43 PM
–	Should average men complement their dating life with escorts? I don’t know if those men claim to support sex workers as people though. Personally I would date a sex worker and have. It’s nbd.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 09:10 PM
–	Should average men complement their dating life with escorts? Zomg that’s not what that study says AT ALL. Did you read it?? They offered $45 to a bunch poor guys on Craigslist for their opinions on sex workers. The demographics of this study are “low income, middle aged men in Boston on Craigslist looking for easy cash” not “men who use prostitutes”. And secondly, it doesn’t even claim they are “bad people”. It claims they are a tad higher on some scale that’s supposed to measure feature of sexual aggression. The NSAs in the study were barely below the SA…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 08:23 PM
–	Should average men complement their dating life with escorts? Most women have a policy of not wanting to date a man who has seen a sex worker in the past, which makes it taboo. Since it’s taboo it is hidden. Since it’s hidden, it happens without regulation and accountability. If women were more accepting of men who see sex workers, more men would be open about it, it would be done in the open, and it would be safer. It’s true that you have your own personal desires and standards, but you have to realize that your own standards make it harder for sex worker…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 08:02 PM
–	Should average men complement their dating life with escorts? Many women saying “no” probably have and don’t even know it, because a man would never admit that. There are sooooo many normies seeing escorts, it’s hilarious people think it’s like rare or something.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 07:58 PM
6	Men should have a go bag or escape fund for emotional abuse The frustrating thing about you is that you have zero empathy for male victims of assault and rape yet you claim you do. I literally said above that women use cowardly tactics to harm men like scalding water, and you called me full of shit. Someone with empathy would not respond that way. So that whole wall of text you typed is just cope. You have zero sympathy for men like me who are victims of assault and rape. None. So whatever you have to say, don’t pretend you care. It’s insulting. You are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 06:50 PM
2	Men should have a go bag or escape fund for emotional abuse “Men” don’t murder regularly either. The word for a kind of person who regularly murders is “serial killer” and not “man”. And I know you will want to say “but most serial killers are men, therefore we must be afraid of men because they are more likely to be serial killers” but that is Republican logic. Serial killers account for a very small population in both men and women, and just because there are fewer female serial killers then male serial killers, it does not follow that we should theref…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 05:31 PM
5	Men should have a go bag or escape fund for emotional abuse The Republican Party has been anti abortion my entire life. If you voted for them, you voted to end your own reproductive freedom. Republicans haven’t stood for fiscal responsibility since 2000, when Bush came in and ran up the deficit. The last President to end his term with a budget surplus was Democrat Bill Clinton. Congrats you played yourself thinking you were voting for sound fiscal policy. Instead you voted your rights away. So you seem to be operating in a fact free zone that absolves yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 02:14 PM
7	Men should have a go bag or escape fund for emotional abuse Okay so fyi women can break noses. They also do more cowardly things like throw scalding hot water on a man. Men are socially conditioned to lie about women hurting them because it’s shameful. Yes women can certainly break a man’s job I’ve witnessed it happen. Most recently it was because a woman filed a false police report and tried to get a man arrested. He was forced out of his home, separated from his kids, forced to move in with his parents, lost transpo to work, lost his job…. All because …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 01:19 PM
5	Men should have a go bag or escape fund for emotional abuse This is the most extreme bigoted rhetoric I’ve read outside of MAGA land. Are you sure you’re not voting for Trump because this logic right here is straight up bigotry on the level of MAGA. “immigrants are causing all of our problems, we just need to punish them more. All the gangbangers I saw? Immigrants. Drug dealers? Immigrants. Assault victims were immigrants but also the perpetrators were immigrants as well. Obviously this problem is solved if we just round them all up and deport them.” Tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 01:05 PM
9	Men should have a go bag or escape fund for emotional abuse Do you think women can’t break noses?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 12:57 PM
2	Men should have a go bag or escape fund for emotional abuse This is a big depends. I would say in my situation leaving the house was this was the wrong move. I was the breadwinner, I paid rent and for everything, and when I left it meant she became queen of the castle. I ended up having to pay rent at my place for her to live there on her own, entertaining other men; while I had to move back in with my parents. Better option would have been to get her out somehow, but then I would have had to stick around for more emotional abuse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/24 12:51 PM
–	CMV: it should be statutory for age gap relationships when the girl is under 25 Okay! Yeah women agree with most of RP, because RP is just observing what women do and pointing it out. They just hate when women say it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 01:44 PM
–	Why do so many people think that going to the gym will magically make them attractive? Cool.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 01:42 PM
–	Why do so many people think that going to the gym will magically make them attractive? There’s a continuum obviously. Normal people look normal. Fit people look good. Fat people look not good.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 01:28 PM
–	Why do so many people think that going to the gym will magically make them attractive? A person will be more attractive when they are fit than when they are fat. It’s not hard to understand.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 01:22 PM
–	CMV: it should be statutory for age gap relationships when the girl is under 25 Why bring red pill into this, OP is not arguing from a RP perspective. This is an extreme feminist woman arguing women under 25 are essentially children. If anything, RP just recognizes feminists view themselves as children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 01:19 PM
–	CMV: it should be statutory for age gap relationships when the girl is under 25 Yeah this is a GenZ thing I feel like. Even for millenials, we were coddled, but as soon as we were adults we were adults. I left home at 18 and it was adult time. Same with my father and grandfather. My great grandfather came to America at 18 from Italy alone with $20. He had a family of 5 by the time he was 25. In 1776, James Madison was 25, Alexander Hamilton was 21, and James Monroe was 18. They fought a war, beat an empire, and founded a country! So I can’t tell you how hard my eyes roll wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 01:10 PM
–	CMV: it should be statutory for age gap relationships when the girl is under 25 But can a 25 year old woman be trusted to run a company if she’s in danger of being groomed in dating? If her brain isn’t developed enough to make romantic decisions that impact her own life, how can she be trusted to make decisions that impact all of ours? How can she form any long term contracts? How can she be trusted to take out loans? Either she is adult enough to be an adult, or she’s not. If she is, it comes with all the risks of being an adult, including those in dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 12:58 PM
–	CMV: it should be statutory for age gap relationships when the girl is under 25 As goofy as she is, she represents real feminist opinions and we all need to see how extreme they can be. Feminists have gone off the deep end where men are considered worse than violent wild animals, and grown women are considered children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 12:26 PM
–	CMV: it should be statutory for age gap relationships when the girl is under 25 People keep calling this rage bait but maybe you haven’t had any age gap relationships. What she’s saying is often said when age gap relationships are brought up, especially if there is large gap and the woman is mid 20s. People will call the man a creep and paint the woman, a full adult, as essentially a child with a still developing brain. While this is clearly absurd, I think it’s another one of those feminist things that infantilize women and demonize men. Frankly my parents, both sets of gr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/24 12:21 PM
7	If you believe that humans are children until 25 years old, why are you ok with them doing s*x work at 18? Every time an age gap relationship is brought up people say this. I was in a thread yesterday where a 34M was distraught his 24 GF cheated on him; many posters essentially told him she’s 24 and peoples brains don’t stop developing until 25 so basically that makes her a child and absolves her of her shitty behavior. To solve this he should date someone his own age. They were clear he was creepy for dating her at 22, and even made a point to say she was 4 when he was 14 as if that matters. Which i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/24 12:10 PM
2	If you believe that humans are children until 25 years old, why are you ok with them doing s*x work at 18? Forget sex work, why are you okay with them: voting serving in government marrying raising children entering into long-term contracts taking out loans going to war running businesses owning land making critical healthcare decisions Are these things we let children do? In generations past, 24 year hold had families of their own. Not anymore. Was it 9/11? Growing up on social media? Being raised by GenXers? Covid? Whatever it is y’all need to grow the fuck up sooner rather than later.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/24 12:02 PM
5	Everything I've learned from my online dating experience. Maybe this can help you too: I figured out a good filter for them tho, they’ll talk about their ex on the first date. From now on if they do that, bye.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/10/24 08:36 PM
15	Everything I've learned from my online dating experience. Maybe this can help you too: Number 2 is huge. Even if it’s for a good reason like “I moved in with my parents after they got ill to take of them” women will empathize with that and tell it’s understandable, but it’s an immediate ick for them. Even if they’re in the same situation like you said. Number 3 you are right saying you can augment how you look. I would go even further to say beauty is an illusion. Women understand that and use it to their full advantage, men should too. Number 6 I used to have trouble when women w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/10/24 03:53 PM
1	The sex you see in porn sets unrealistic expectations You understand what acting is right? Just because someone is acting a part in a performance doesn’t mean that performance isn’t based on something that actually happens. You can just say you’ve never fucked a woman for a an hour through multiple screaming orgasms, no one will hold it against you. Doesn’t mean there aren’t women out there at this very moment on their 3rd orgasm of the sesh. And anyway, what you said is that the performance is focused on male pleasure. I’ve showed you actually fem…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/24 07:09 PM
-2	The sex you see in porn sets unrealistic expectations First of all some women love getting fucked hard, so it’s not unrealistic that a woman cums from hard sex. If you think otherwise you just haven’t been with such a woman. At the same time, jackhammering isn’t exactly always pleasurable as a man. So I don’t know why you say jackhammering is about male pleasure. But if you view the porn as a narrative, the whole thing is devoted to getting the woman off. Yes eventually the man gets there in the end, but the sexual journey is about giving the woman…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/24 06:31 PM
0	The sex you see in porn sets unrealistic expectations I find 15 minute sex to be quite unrealistic myself! She’d get her nut and I’d be like, what were done? I’m just getting started. It’s the female equivalent of premature ejaculation except it’s framed as “real sex”	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/24 06:28 PM
-3	The sex you see in porn sets unrealistic expectations I said it’s not realistic, but that’s what’s depicted no? Have you seen a porno?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/24 06:17 PM
6	The sex you see in porn sets unrealistic expectations lol yes that’s why I always say porn is actually the most realistic acting. No matter what else is faked, at the end of the day a penis is going into a vagina and that’s what we are here for. Can’t get more real than that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/24 06:07 PM
-4	The sex you see in porn sets unrealistic expectations I disagree. In most every porn the woman is cumming multiple times. If it’s a 40 minute porn, they are having sex by 5 minutes, and the man doesn’t get his nut till the end. Meanwhile she’s having orgasm after orgasm. That’s not realistic. But the message porn sends is that during sex, it’s the man’s job to get his woman off as much as possible, and then it’s his job to get himself off once, then it’s over. That’s a message of female pleasure, not male pleasure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/24 06:05 PM
1	The sex you see in porn sets unrealistic expectations I think it’s literally like, mish for 10 minutes. I agree, if me and her aren’t both orgasming at least twice then why even bother?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/24 05:58 PM
1	The sex you see in porn sets unrealistic expectations I have found some people expect sex to last like 15 minutes and they think having sex for an hour isn’t realistic. But my wife used to do that, well past the honeymoon phase, so long sex is not “unrealistic” because we really had it. But maybe these people who have sex for 15 minutes view hour long sex as unrealistic because for them it’s over so fast.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/24 05:55 PM
3	Women's "pickiness" really isn't that deep as it pretends to be Just ironic to me you’re asking what men do for you on a piece of technology designed overwhelmingly by men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/24 05:44 PM
0	Women's "pickiness" really isn't that deep as it pretends to be No, it’s very important to talk about because the feminist perspective here is that “objectification of women is a problem caused by men and men have to change to fix it” If men are being told to fix a thing, we should all identify the problem and specify exactly how men can fix it. Men, having been told to fix this thing are noticing that actually, the objectification of women isn’t universal trait of men and in fact there are ways to avoid it entirely if women concerned about objectification f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/24 02:43 PM
5	Women's "pickiness" really isn't that deep as it pretends to be I think OP made this clear it’s not about him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/24 02:37 PM
10	Women's "pickiness" really isn't that deep as it pretends to be That’s pretty much the point yeah? You really proved OPs argument. OP was drawing an equivalency between fuck boys and shallow whores. He was saying that when men go for shallow whores, they’re told to choose better, as you did here. But when women go for fuck boys, it’s up to all men to not objectify women. OP is saying women just have to choose better. As he put it, simple as.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/24 02:26 PM
4	Women's "pickiness" really isn't that deep as it pretends to be Most attractive word to a woman is “no” She hates hearing it but it makes her want it more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/24 02:00 PM
12	Women's "pickiness" really isn't that deep as it pretends to be That’s a straw man argument. OP says nothing about himself, yet you build the straw man in your first paragraph and you knock it down in the second. Can you respond to what OP actually wrote? I mean, is he wrong? Let me try to steelman the OP. It’s true that a lot of women complain about being objectified and how much they hate it. We hear all the time how they want to be treated deeper and not just viewed as sex objects. And that it’s up to men to fix this; women have nothing to change here, si…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/24 01:53 PM
–	You can't socialize a man into caring about you Already there often on a different account, but yeah! That’s a great place and I feel at home there because they don’t judge me when I talk about my sexual assault. Lots of men have stories about that, I think we have our own MeToo situation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/24 06:57 PM
2	Approaching women is very possible, it's just not like fulfilling video game objectives where following a list of steps leads you to a definite reward. Because I’ve seen it affect enough men to believe it exists and it’s not irrational. Because I believed it didn’t exist until it came for me, and then my eyes were opened. If you don’t talk to affected men, and it doesn’t affect you, it’s easier for you to call it an irrational fear.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/24 01:11 PM
2	Approaching women is very possible, it's just not like fulfilling video game objectives where following a list of steps leads you to a definite reward. The only evidence any of us have on this topic is anecdotal, so we can’t draw any conclusions on general trends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/24 06:52 AM
1	Approaching women is very possible, it's just not like fulfilling video game objectives where following a list of steps leads you to a definite reward. Big if. Would be interested to know what the actual stats are but I would guess it’s hard to measure something like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/24 06:47 AM
3	You can't socialize a man into caring about you Me too and that’s why I’m here. I approached feminist ideology from a left wing perspective, and I still believe in the ideals of feminism in that men and women should not be held back and discriminated against by the law. Gender roles should be less rigid. But I find that feminism doesn’t want less rigid gender roles or egalitarianism. It wants to replace the patriarchy with a matriarchy, and I’m not here for that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/24 10:30 PM
9	Approaching women is very possible, it's just not like fulfilling video game objectives where following a list of steps leads you to a definite reward. These responses are so tiring. “I’m generally sorry that the militant feminist brain rot came for you, but I’ve personally never seen it.” Bro, it exists. What are you as a man going to do to help your fellow man out with this issue besides hand wave it away as “rare”? You’ll understand when it finally comes for you, and your brothers will be there for you at that time, but until then maybe try to see the problem instead of dismissing it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/24 03:44 PM
4	You can't socialize a man into caring about you Starting to I understand that and it’s really sick. Right down to the “you’re one of the good ones” language.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/24 04:49 AM
16	Women ask men to improve emotionally, yet their dating preferences often incentivize men to focus on material success and physical appearance It’s not that hard. There was a paper I’ll have to dig up the link to which shows that the closer a man conforms to traditional ideas about masculinity, the more selfish, and confident he is, the more likely he is to be abusive. If women want to avoid abusive men, they could avoid exactly those traits and instead go for less selfish, more agreeable, more egalitarian men. But women don’t find those traits attractive. Honestly it seems like women can’t separate abuse and attraction because they fi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/24 01:28 AM
3	You can't socialize a man into caring about you Unironically yes, I would and do. I was a feminist for a long time, and trust me I’ve heard so much hate from feminists directed at men and their body parts, we can go one to one on that. There are disguising, degenerate, loud members of both genders. I’m willing to fight and advocate for women despite how they portray me and my gender. Even though I think it’s a lot of women who hold these negative opinions about men (Find me a woman who doesn’t laugh and sneer at incels). It always seems okay …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/24 10:18 PM
14	You can't socialize a man into caring about you Here’s what I’m getting from the post: feminists generally have this view that things can be fixed for women if we remove a laundry list of problematic behaviors from men, and they say a lot of that work is on men to do for women. OP is saying essentially, why should the average man care about doing this work if all he hears from women is that he’s essentially a monster. He may be sympathetic to the plight, but if this is all feminism has to offer in 2024 it’s a dead end ideology.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/24 10:11 PM
3	You can't socialize a man into caring about you I fell out with feminism when I found a feminist post asking “how can I explain to my boyfriend that the skittles analogy isn’t bigoted?” I expected people to say “actually yeah it is, stop thinking that way” but the feminists actually tried to rationalize it. So yeah, I’d say there are similarities to conservatism when your arguments are the same as Donald Trump Jr.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/24 10:03 PM
2	Would you date an absolutely mediocre person? Most of the women I date are like this, it’s just how it is numbers wise. For something deeper I require some excellence in one or more of these areas.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/10/24 03:36 PM
–	Women's dating advice comes from a place of ignorant privilege There’s always a new grasshopper. And there’s a lot of them too. Not all of them find a sensei in time. And besides, for some people it just never works out even if they do everything right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/24 04:20 PM
–	Women's dating advice comes from a place of ignorant privilege You are a woman. All men know the struggle intuitively unless he’s literally Mr. Popular. We experience different degrees but we know it all the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/24 01:22 PM
–	Women's dating advice comes from a place of ignorant privilege How can you speak so confidently about this? I have helped plenty of men, you’re just blowing smoke.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/24 01:20 PM
–	Women's dating advice comes from a place of ignorant privilege No men who are successful with women are the Rosetta Stone. They know the struggle but they also know what works. So we can empathize while teaching how to be successful, which is something women often cannot to do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/24 12:45 PM
1	CMV: Why pickup artistry and redpill advice is better than SCIENCE_TM/bluepill advice. That’s like asking “why do third graders not know multiplication when we teach them it every year?”	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/24 04:03 AM
-3	Question for men. If you could fix men's biggest issues Most if not all of your arguments are straw men. Teaching consent is fine I didn’t say to not teach that. That is different from teaching boys to not be rapists, because the latter presumes rape happens because boys haven’t been taught not to do it. Do I need to explain why that’s bonkers and going down that path won’t actually stop rape, thereby fixing nothing? Feminism asks men to do all kinds of frivolous things that collectively do nothing but make men jump through hoops and ultimately divid…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/24 03:17 AM
0	Question for men. If you could fix men's biggest issues Feminism says nothing about how to achieve affordable housing. It has a lot to say about how men should behave though. E.g. “men should be teaching boys how to not be rapists”, as if it’s something that needs to be bred out of us. That’s a wild goose chase. It won’t make women happy, it won’t fix anything, and it’ll just make men and boys feel worse. Any man finding himself doing that kind of nonsense should stop and go build a house instead.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/24 02:22 AM
2	Question for men. If you could fix men's biggest issues They’re saying stop whatever bs women have men focused on fixing because it’s all meaningless platitudes, and let’s do some things that will improve men’s material conditions, like building some damn houses.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/09/24 02:08 AM
2	SOLUTION: Men get to ask for a DNA test as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. Why? No one had an issue with it except my ex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 06:08 PM
1	SOLUTION: Men get to ask for a DNA test as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. You can say “pfft that won’t work” to anything, it’s not an argument. Obamacare was passed so obviously things can change. As for companies discriminating against women of childbearing age, the way to solve that is that both parents get leave, then there’s no point in discriminating by gender.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 06:07 PM
1	SOLUTION: Men get to ask for a DNA test as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. Companies over a certain size should be mandated, otherwise insurance companies can pay.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 05:49 PM
2	SOLUTION: Men get to ask for a DNA test as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. They aren’t added to the birth certificate. If there’s a presumptive father that’s on the hook for support that can be determined through a legal process.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 05:39 PM
2	SOLUTION: Men get to ask for a DNA test as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. There is a cost for advocating for men’s rights in public, especially if you are left wing like me; when your entire social circle subscribes to feminism, speaking out for men today gets you labeled MAGA.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 05:31 PM
1	SOLUTION: Men get to ask for a DNA test as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. There’s no such thing as “your” tax dollars; thats a right wing conservative fiction. Tax dollars are the government’s at all times, and they decide what to do with them. Just because you pay into taxes doesn’t mean that money is somehow earmarked for your exclusive benefit, and you get a line-item veto on government spending. How about this, we compromise and say that everyone gets tested but mothers get government mandated maternity leave?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 05:27 PM
1	SOLUTION: Men get to ask for a DNA test as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. I don’t see a problem with the government ensuring that government forms (birth certificates) are accurate. In fact it’s their prerogative.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 05:20 PM
4	SOLUTION: Men get to ask for a DNA test as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. I’ll give you one from real life. In one of my work groups we had a meme which was a dishwasher ad from like the 40s or something with a blindfolded kid doing dishes on a portable dishwasher in the living room. The tagline read “so easy a 10 year old could do it blindfolded”. It was a mantra in our group referring to how easy and use-friendly things had to be. It was completely innocuous. Well my ex didn’t think so when she was going thru my work chat. She saw it as evidence I was working with p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 05:19 PM
1	SOLUTION: Men get to ask for a DNA test as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. So make it standard practice and problem solved. Why wouldn’t a wife trust her husband because the government requires the people listed on the birth certificate are actually biological parents? You’re free to advocate for your idea if you think it makes your children safer. What I’m saying is your suggestions is the relationship equivalent of TSA in terms of security theatre.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 05:10 PM
1	SOLUTION: Men get to ask for a DNA test as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. Okay you go advocate for that, I’m sure you’ll find your people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 02:15 PM
1	SOLUTION: Men get to ask for a DNA test as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. And easily circumvented and faked… security theatre. And we are talking about installing a device at 18 to log all keystrokes into adulthood, implementing a massive police state that monitors everyone and will solve nothing due to the vulnerabilities of keyloggers… all before you will even consider doing a simple thing that will cost nothing and save men’s lives. Ask yourself why you are willing to do such mental gymnastics before exhibiting common decency toward a man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 02:13 PM
4	SOLUTION: Men get to ask for a DNA test as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. That concern is premature. We are hashing out ideas in the social realm now, no need to invite politicians into the discussion just yet. That’s how policy is made: people fight about it, minds change, policy changes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 02:10 PM
1	SOLUTION: Men get to ask for a DNA test as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. Then women should also submit to the same browser checks since they have been known to abuse children and be pedos.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 02:06 PM
-1	Men can have kids in their 50s and there is nothing wrong with it. Do you think your experience is everyone’s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 02:06 PM
2	SOLUTION: Men get to ask for a DNA test as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. It’s not just about insecurities because you’re forgetting about the whole class of men who are unknowingly raising kids that are not their own. We are advocating for them as well. They are secure in their relationship but one day they’re going to learn the terrible truth their life is a lie. At that point, suicide is a real possibility, not no matter what that’s a life ruined. You are asking us to do some strange convoluted browser dance for you before that man is even considered.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 01:43 PM
1	Men can have kids in their 50s and there is nothing wrong with it. Do you know anyone who has old parents that died early? Personally I do and they don’t regret their life or consider theirs parents to have burdened them. I’ll inform them that actually their parents shouldn’t even have conceived them, and doing so was very selfish of them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 01:40 PM
0	Men can have kids in their 50s and there is nothing wrong with it. This discussion is going toward eugenics. It’s okay for children to have defects even when they are burdensome. Ask any autistic person today if they’d rather be alive or culled from the gene pool. Because there are plenty of people who support the latter under the banner of “we don’t want these babies to be born with such a burden!”	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 01:36 PM
6	SOLUTION: Men get to ask for a DNA test as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. I think the threat here is that they will attempt to misconstrue any and everything they find in there as negative. At least that my experience with paranoid women going thru phones.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 01:27 PM
7	SOLUTION: Men get to ask for a DNA test as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. Because it’s not a thing that exists, no one has this browser history. You’re just throwing out an impossible hypothetical and acting like it’s a gotcha. Verifying parents with DNA at birth is a simple, low cost procedure that will prevent lives from being ruined. There’s no valid reason not to do it, and we know this because if there were you’d be arguing that instead of nonsensical hypotheticals and whataboutism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 01:23 PM
9	SOLUTION: Men get to ask for a DNA test as long as the GF/wife gets to randomly check his phone/tablet/computer and check that’s he not abusing the child. Just make paternity tests at birth by default. Problem solved. This ensures everyone knows whose child they are raising. No one has to feel “accused” and it rights a societal wrong that literally ruins lives. What’s the problem with that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/24 01:16 PM
1	Married couples should share all social security contributions She had a job when we got married. The arrangement was that before we started a family I would work and I gave her the freedom to pursue her dreams, go grad school, pursue art, start a business… she just wanted to do nothing and be a princess. I probably waited too long to terminate the marriage but I had eternal hope and I made a vow I was serious about. I was in it until she broke her vows even if she broke her agreement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/24 02:09 PM
2	Married couples should share all social security contributions This is dumb there are too many factors at play. Better to just hash it out during the divorce, not leave it up to the SSA to get it right. I pay my ex wife monthly support even though she was free to work and earn during our marriage. We never had kids so she didn’t have to give birth or take care of them. I did more household chores than her. She ended up cheating on me. Yet I am the one who has to pay her a monthly salary, it’s more than most people make at their full time jobs each month. So…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/24 12:37 PM
5	Is being a member of this sub actually improving your life? That’s me, I was out of the dating market from 2011 until 2023 on account of being married. It was like waking up from being frozen. Exactly my experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/24 02:31 PM
3	Why Do Women Think Their Feelings Matter More Than The Truth? Women don’t have to take it so personally. Men look at this practically. Fact is, every man unwillingly raising a child that’s not his own at one point trusted their relationship and their bond and all those things you say are so improbable actually turned out to be true. And beyond that there are numerous other reasons not to leave everything to trust. These men could have been spared that fate if we all just normalize paternity testing. But we can’t even get to that discussion because women ar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 05:44 PM
5	What is the appropriate response for a gamer bf/husband to his woman that protests his hobby? lol wait so now they are abusive? Literally the video depicted psychological mind games (which I view as a precursor to abuse since this shit was pulled on me) on the part of the woman in the relationship, and you imagined a situation where that’s the man’s fault because he didn’t help out, and he then goes on to beat the wife and his kids. Look, if you want to have a discussion about domestic abuse and its causes, fine, but this was a discussion about women giving men a hard time for playing th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 05:22 PM
2	If you demand a paternity test, you are calling your baby mama a cheating whore. Again, this is so simple but you keep turning it into a matter of trust, but it’s about verification. I’ll set aside the matter that there are more reasons than thinking she cheated on you for asking for a test, I’m arguing that in another thread. But a fundamental part of your argument is that the best relationships are built on trust — then why is marriage a binding legal contract in the first place? Seems weird to ask someone to enter into a binding contractual agreement with you if the basis…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 04:44 PM
1	If you demand a paternity test, you are calling your baby mama a cheating whore. The problem with thinking this way is it leads to men getting stuck with children that aren’t theirs by default. Men speak up for practical reasons, women are offended for emotional reasons, men take the brunt of the fallout by raising kids that are not biologically theirs. Instead we should change the default to asking for a paternity test, so that everyone gets stuck with the children that are biologically theirs by default. It’s the only fair outcome. No hurt feelings. It’s starts with men no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 04:31 PM
2	If you demand a paternity test, you are calling your baby mama a cheating whore. When the cost of getting something wrong is so high, it doesn’t matter how infrequent the edge cases are especially when the cost of verifying them is so low. It’s going to happen to someone and that person’s life is ruined. you are on PPD right now debating and we are focused on all the things right here in this convo so I don’t know what you mean when you say we aren’t talking about that and only focused on paternity fraud. I have no idea the relative frequencies of these issues, but no matter…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 04:00 PM
4	What is the appropriate response for a gamer bf/husband to his woman that protests his hobby? No one really knows what’s happening a majority of the time, you can’t just say that to sidestep the behavior depicted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 03:51 PM
4	If you demand a paternity test, you are calling your baby mama a cheating whore. Communication is great but things aren’t ideal. You came in hot assuming the mere desire for a paternity test meant an accusation but as you’ve admitted there’s all kinds of other reasons that aren’t accusatory. Okay so you and whoever the mother is can calm down about accusations. It’s not an accusation it’s a verification. That you’re taking it as an accusation says more than the man asking for the verification. He just wants facts. Don’t you as the mother also want to know there are no mixups…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 03:40 PM
2	If you demand a paternity test, you are calling your baby mama a cheating whore. Here I’ll help you with the prenup one: do only rich people get prenups? No. So therefore there are reasons to get prenups other than protection from gold digging. Can you use your brain for two seconds to think of a reason a person who is not rich might ask for a prenup?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 03:35 PM
2	If you demand a paternity test, you are calling your baby mama a cheating whore. And I’m saying it’s a dumb question because you should be able to think of some really obvious reasons for each of those three things. If you need help you can ask chat gpt because it won’t treat dumb questions like I do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 03:29 PM
1	Why Do Women Think Their Feelings Matter More Than The Truth? I think men should just get the tests and women can feel whatever way they want about that. If she wants to take it personally that’s on her. Because it’s not personal it’s about setting a solid foundation. You want your man to be a rock, he needs a rock too. That’s not you, a man’s rock facts and logic and what he knows, and that’s what the paternity test is about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 03:25 PM
1	If you demand a paternity test, you are calling your baby mama a cheating whore. You can ask ChatGPT dumb questions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 03:21 PM
1	If you demand a paternity test, you are calling your baby mama a cheating whore. A lot of men do trust, and only find out years / decades later they aren’t the father. Men telling other men to get paternity tests is a recognition of this fact of life. The devastation of getting this wrong is so total and the cost of finding the truth is so small, it’s a no brainer. Until the woman’s ego enters the equation, then all of a sudden it becomes a complicated issue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 03:19 PM
2	If you demand a paternity test, you are calling your baby mama a cheating whore. They’re not tho. There are other valid reasons for doing all of those things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 03:07 PM
4	If you demand a paternity test, you are calling your baby mama a cheating whore. Hold up, so you admit all those things happen but they are so rare we should discount them… but what advice would you give to them men there happened to? They should have gotten a paternity test at birth and it would have saved them a lot of trouble. But since women are making it all about questioning whether they are wonderful, those affected men just have to suck it up?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 03:04 PM
-1	If you demand a paternity test, you are calling your baby mama a cheating whore. Got to what point tho? What are you implying? To me, “that point” seems to just be verifying something that will change your life forever. You seem to be saying “that point” is an untrusting relationship. Haven’t you ever heard “trust but verify”? That way of operating builds trust, it’s healthy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 02:46 PM
0	Why Do Women Think Their Feelings Matter More Than The Truth? Women get the ick when you ask to kiss them, your suggestion is tantamount to telling men to suck it up or stay virgins.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 02:34 PM
3	Why Do Women Think Their Feelings Matter More Than The Truth? Erm, didn’t you pay attention during that whole man vs bear thing? Women assume a random non-threatening man is a default predator worse than a bear even though the vast majority of men have never hurt anyone. We have to prove our innocence every day in this climate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 12:06 PM
0	What is the appropriate response for a gamer bf/husband to his woman that protests his hobby? That’s not really what the women were saying in the video; they were more concerned he wasn’t paying attention to them or doing something more productive. Didn’t look like any of them had kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 11:23 AM
1	Obsession with “visceral attraction” is self-sabotage and not consistent with how people really behave If you want rape to be a heinous crime you have to keep it to acts that are heinous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/24 11:20 PM
1	Obsession with “visceral attraction” is self-sabotage and not consistent with how people really behave If rape is defined as violent forced penetrative sex, no. If rape is defined how feminists want to define it, yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/24 09:57 PM
6	Obsession with “visceral attraction” is self-sabotage and not consistent with how people really behave It’s possible to know how women think and operate by watching what they do. Listening to what women say and acting on that tends to produce counterintuitive results.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/24 09:09 PM
1	Only telling men to self improve is bad advice Some people don’t really understand odds. It’s like getting into Harvard, just because there’s a 10% admit rate doesn’t mean you have a good shot of getting in if you apply 10 times. For some things, if you don’t do the prep work there’s a 0% chance of getting it no matter how many times you try. They’re just banging their heads against the wall sure if they keep trying they’ll eventually bash their head through a window.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/24 05:20 PM
0	Only telling men to self improve is bad advice The point of the advice isn’t to say “you’re not there yet” it’s to say “this is the way” You don’t have to be all those things to get a woman you just have to want to BE those things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/24 05:18 PM
1	For women who are against porn because you believe it harms women, are you also against drawn/CGI or otherwise artificial porn? Yes actually. It’s funny because in men’s erotic literature, just like in men’s porn, you can find every kind of woman represented. For women, there’s only one kind of man in their romance books: tall dark and handsome. 1000 romance novels at Barnes and Nobel about one dude. And it’s men who are gaining unrealistic views from the erotic content they consume.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/24 04:59 PM
2	I DON'T buy that men who date a younger woman do it because they're easier to manipulate But have you ever tried calling someone “daddy” in bed who could be old enough to actually be yours?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/24 11:21 PM