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I don't see sex as the "only" thing that matters. I see it as a requirement later on. But it has to be genuine. No duty sex, begging, or get it over with sex. If she doesn't want sex, then so be it. Without sex, they are just friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:57 PM
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It's more like would a man just be an ATM withdrawal dumpster for a bunch of 10s with no chance of sex. The tables have been inaccurately reversed because men are not equal to women in terms of dating. The true example is would a woman be a splooge target for Pookie with no chance of commitment long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:41 PM
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For "good guy," let's differentiate between an ACTUAL good guy and "reddit" (thats us) good guy. The criticism is because women will "say" I can't find a good guy. But their definition is the good guy that is the 6666 man. Men's criticism is on WHAT makes a guy a (actual) good guy. Instead of focusing on the 6666 man or Pookie, find a respectable, stable, in shape, dependable man. Men rarely get criticized because (a) They don't complain that loudly. (b) They can't even find A woman to begin wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:05 PM
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"Dating" =\= marriage and/or LONG-TERM. Just because men don't want LTR's does NOT mean they won't casually "date."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:30 PM
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The career woman with money will STILL SEEK men who earn more. Sure she 'can' find someone. The 4 major possibilities are... - She remains unmarried. - She marries a Basic Bob. He is a tool. He is a dancing monkey. He doesn't arouse her. - She gets lucky and finds her ideal man who earns more and is hot. - She marries an attractive man or Pookie. Sure he doesn't earn enough. But he excites and gives her that d0p3amine rush.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:49 PM
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It's good for HER. But for Basic Bob, in addition to families, he ALSO wants to have passionate intimate moments with her. He also doesn't want a dead bedroom, starfish, duty, or monkeydancing. If Basic Bob lacks intimacy in the relationship he is better off looking for companionship with a man. Bob would be a friendly roommate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:50 AM
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This is NOT an equal comparison because men and women are different. For men, of course they can spot the PHYSICALLY abusive women. But the thing is men and women are DIFFERENT. Women aren't as PHYSICALLY violent. It is more covert. Second, most men are oofy doofy Basic Bobs and Cubicle Carls. Sprinkle in a small batch of Neckbeard Neds. They LACK experience in vetting. We can't ask about b*dy count. We are "insecure" if we want to know how we rank to past men. For the Basic Bobs, his fear is NO…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:21 AM
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Assuming the man PUTS IN THE WORK, he can become more romantically attractive. Gaining muscle takes YEARS. Gaining job status takes YEARS. Gaining a good quality social network takes YEARS. Straight outta high school and in college, he is still a oofy doofy dingus. Straight out of high school and in college, a woman is at good physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:54 PM
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For all of those saying scenario 2 is a myth, why do we have... "He is a STARTER husband." You'd make a great husband, but not a boyfriend. Its time to settle I am reformed. / I found Jesus. I've had my hot girl summer. You're too nice. My husband is kind and good but boring. He is safe. You treat me better than most guys I've been with. You are long term, not short.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:03 PM
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If she isn't show some signs of physical romantic intimacy (doesn't have to be sex), what you described is a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 07:23 PM
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What do you mean by "settle?" If Basic Bethany is going for Pookie and Tyrone, she should be aware that she is competing alongside many women. If her "standards" are the 6666 man, she is part of the 99% wanting 1% man. When men criticize "settling," men question why chase Pookie and Glocktavious when the best standards should be stability, reliability, and in decent shape. He might not be Chad attractive, but he isn't ugly neckbeard either. When women set those standards, they found success.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:53 PM
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The men who PnD are mostly targeting the "lesser" women. Tyrone is less likely to PnD the 9/10 Stacy compared to Basic Bethany. For Basic Bob, if he finds Basic Bethany, they are EQUAL (in terms of INTIMATE attraction). The point is for people to date within their "range" to less likely be PnD'd or wallet PnD'd.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:28 PM
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I tell them how the dating environment is. I would use normal people speak. The normal person isn't brain rotted from using this forum. The "red pill" is NOT a political ideology. It just tells people how the dating scene is. It is up to each INDIVIDUAL person to do what thy want with the information.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 07:05 AM
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The reason I said those men is because those are the men who can routinely do what you are talking about. The average Basic Bob STRUGGLES trying to get attention from his looksmatch. The average man can NOT routinely "pump and dump" or "dispose" of women. He first must find a woman to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:38 PM
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Let me ask you this. Why do attractive females, female streamers, and/or lonely fans models just use men as wallets? It's because the "men" being used are the dumb idiot "Neckbeard Neds." When you say "men," you ACTUALLY MEAN "Chad, Pookie, RayRay, Tyrone, and Glocktavious. And the "women" you say are actually Neckbeard Nancys (to those men). The women, just like Neckbeard Ned, are just delusional thinking that they can "buy" or "sleep" theirselves into intimate attraction or a relationship with…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:54 PM
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The "red pill" is NOT a group. There are NO meetings in secret. There are NO leaders. There are NO shared goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:59 PM
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Because MARRIAGE and "dating" are different. It depends on what a guy wants. Some guys want a stable relationship. Some want to screw around. Men do NOT want to do 4x the work compared to past men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 07:32 AM
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Women can date who they want. It's their choice. HOWEVER If she is an average woman, she shouldn't be surprised if Pookie doesn't commit. She can sleep with who she wants and as fast as she wants. But she shouldn't be surprised if Bob doesn't want to wait if Pookie, Tyrone, and Glocktavious didn't have to wait. Also, there is marriage material and fun material. Even if she "learned," the average man doesn't want to do 4x the work for 4x the baggage. For standards, men question the "looks" standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:49 AM
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The 30 y/o. The main reason that men prefer to MARRY young is less baggage, whether it is bad or GOOD baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 07:09 AM
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Looks matter if the guy wants higher chances if INTIMACY in the relationship. If looks are lacking, he may have to be a chore monkey ATM for intimacy. If he is lucky, he would get starfish, "get it over with" treatment. If she finds "Neckbeard Ned" attractive, then Ned won the lottery. Can we repeat that with other Neds? Ned can also find "Neckbeard Nancy." Personality without intimacy is just friendship/roommates.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:15 AM
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When men say "choose better," it means to NOT have the choices be Pookie, Tyrone, Chad, or Gloctavious. It also means avoiding tertiary traits like "icks." When women choose based on traits for an ACTUAL good man, they see results. See below. r/ PurplePillDebate/s/utWB5mMqG8
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:52 AM
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"Pleasant, peaceful, friendly" ARE personality traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:52 PM
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You do NOT need cosmetic surgery. Barring any <1% medical deformities ALL you have to do to be attractive is to NOT be obese. With the whole fat acceptance for women, you would place above a lot of 20-30 y/o's. If you are 30+, you will be even higher rated. Another thing to elevate yourself in terms of attractiveness is to eat well and avoid consuming toxic things. And even if you did get screwed over genetically, men will still find you attractive. And I am talking about genuinely good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:56 AM
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Someone asked that same question before. Before it was deleted, someone had a woman match with average men. Turns out, there IS ABUNDANCE of good men. Women were just aiming too high. r/ PurplePillDebate/s/utWB5mMqG8
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:39 PM
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It is illegal. And in the legal areas, it is extortion level prices for what they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:25 PM
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Someone asked that same question about "nice guys." Don't confuse "Reddit nice guy" with genuine, good men. Before it was deleted, someone had a woman match with average men. Turns out, there IS ABUNDANCE of good men. Women were just aiming too high. r/ PurplePillDebate/s/utWB5mMqG8
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 12:56 AM
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Of course they are. But, just because she is "single" does NOT mean she is a celibate monk. She is "fasting." She can still get attention, dates, sex, etc if she feels like it. She doesn't need a relationship if she craves male attention. But the average Basic Bob is STARVING for casual dating. Even if he wants dates, intimacy, sex, and romantic attention, he is just a begging monkey. Hopefully he is in a relationship. And even so, Basic Bob must behave himself, ride his unicycle, and clap those…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 07:15 AM
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Are we talking about "PEAKing" in terms of MARRIAGE or "dating?" In terms of MARRIAGE PEAK, it's early to mid 20's. For "dating," men are more flexible in their choices. Just because they aren't at the PEAK anymore does NOT mean an extreme decline happens. A 9/10 peak would become an 7-8/10. That is still good, but not the "peak." It's not like she becomes Neckbeard Nancy overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:23 AM
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Is Neckbeard Ned a 9/10 if he dated the instagram model? (it was a 1 date, wallet pump-n-dump). Is Obese Olivia a 9/10 if she dated Pookie? (It was a 1 date, PnD).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 11:48 PM
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No. Even if she allowed me to have sex with others, for the average basic man like me, I would just date the other lady. Thats IF I even find one. But me not dating her doesn't mean she has less "human value." A lot of blue pillers equate human value with sexual value. Those are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:30 PM
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A REAL MAN knows his worth. Why should he have to settle for a lesser person? He should not have to be forced to stay with his looksmatch. He is a king who deserves Stacy-Rone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:33 PM
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Date, of course. Marry, probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:23 AM
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The explanation is that those men are likely the "safe" option. They are probably putting in more energy, attention, money, and/or time compared to non-ugly men. The sex they happen to get is reward sex for a monkey dance well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:17 PM
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The wall of OP's text differentiates ROMANTIC/INTIMATE "likeability" from standard likeability. The OP is NOT struggling with basic social interaction. He is struggling with physical romantic interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:14 PM
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1) My original, FIRST, response was Basic Bob gets NO casual. I did not say Bob fears casual. I never switched. What part of "Unless they are Chad...NOT getting casual" equals "fear?" 2) Of course you don't care about Bob's effort. You are the benefactor. The men have the burden of impressing. The woman has the burden of not messing up. 3) Agreed. If Bob has to do 4x the work for 1/4th the return, Bob should avoid the one's wanting the 4x effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 08:21 AM
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For coffee, Basic Bob doesn't need that much money compared to what OP wrote. But to answer your question, Basic Bob, when dating Basic Bethany, should get RESPECT. Respect as in NOT having the head buried in the phone. Respect as in being interested in Basic Bob. Respect as in not making Basic Bob jump through so many hoops and obstacles just to get the date in the first place. Respect as in being grateful for the time spent, even if they are not meant to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 08:16 AM
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1) Dating doesn't equal tricking. The sluts do NOT want Basic Bob. Bob is NOT "afraid" of sluts. 2) Yet again, it's NOT the dating process. It's that Bob is having to do 4x the effort for 1/4th the return. You keep ignoring that point. Basic Bob wouldn't mind dating if the girl was somewhat worth it or at least treated Basic Bob with dignity rather than as a tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 07:05 AM
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1) Unless they are Chad/Tyrone, the Basic Bob man is NOT getting casual. 2) I never said men "lead" with that. They won't explicitly tell her. The KEY POINT is that for (under 30) Basic Bob, the woman has good chances of either having kids, lots of baggage (bad and/or GOOD), treating Bob as a "friend" compared to an "intimate" interest, making Bob jump through hoops and monkey dance compared to Pookie, she has many guy "besties," she has 10 other men lined up, when she is on a date, she is waiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 06:31 AM
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It's what the men get in return is the problem. 304flation is still a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 06:10 AM
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If "Chad" was so into her, where is he now? Why put in 110% effort for someone who sees you as a pump-n-dump? Would (most) men waste their money being p-n-d'd by Stacy-Rone? Nope. Unless they are Chad or Neckbeard Ned, men will put in more effort for those who reciprocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 09:50 PM
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It's more like men saying "I won't be your 'safe' man." Its the man NOT 'donating' to random lonelyfans and game streamets paying 100s of dollars for a 'date' when the woman is already messaging 10 other men. paying for drinks of random women at the clib being the settleDOWN(grade) safety man. taking care of 6 kids because Pookie is in jail. being the "starter" husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:13 AM
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Yes, I am okay with that. I already know that I am not the 666 man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:07 PM
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ALL men pay. Either through money, attention, energy, and/or time. It's up front or on the back end. Some pay more than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:54 PM
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I know that I am an average man. Sure, everyone can dream of the poster model. When assessing my attractiveness, I know my Civic salary cannot afford the supermodel Ferrari. Likewise, the woman would understand that a Civic value would only result in ghostings and pump-n-dumps. So yes, she is my top choice. Plain ol' Basic Bethany. If I were to go after the poster supermodel Sweeney, I KNOW I am ONLY a ghosted wallet pump-n-dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:51 PM
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If I was in a relationship, as long as I am her top choice and the relationship is good, no. For the new one, it could be worse. New doesn't always mean better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:08 AM
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Of course it sucks being disposable. Men KNOW they are EASILY disposable. She can EASILY find a Pookie for sex or a Cubicle Carl for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:06 AM
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"Prime" for what? For MARRIAGE, its early to mid 20s for the INITIAL meeting. They don't have to be married at that time. They just have to meet and begin their relationship. For marriage, by the time they reach 30, the woman would have baggage. Not just negative baggage. Baggage of positive events are still baggage for Basic Bob. Bob had to woo her, impress her, and do his little monkey dance. He also has to maintain her attention to prevent "oh he is nice, but boring." When she reaches her 30s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:17 AM
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With hookup culture and lonelyfans, the market is becoming oversaturated in terms of P4P.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:26 AM
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Compared to what men have to meet for intimate interest, -Their partner not gaining weight As long as she doesn't start eating lots of junk food and become sedentary. Natural weight gain based on aging, pregnancy, etc is different from a junk diet. -Not aging badly (mostly influenced by genetics) As long as the man met while she was younger, he understands aging. As long as it's not because of drugs and a bad controllable lifestyle. -Not having a drop in libido That goes back to aging badly. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:54 AM
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Sure, Bob can "SETTLE." But are both parties "really" happy. For MARRIAGE, Bob has the duty and burden of keeping his wife from not becoming bored of him. Sure they are married. But long term, Bob runs the risk of being in a dead bedroom. Bob runs the risk of being a chore monkey ATM. Bob would be the stable, boring guy. Bob is not the panty wetting man. That is the risk of Basic Bob marrying an older woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:30 AM
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The "wall" is NOT (that much) about looks. Basic Bob has to monkey dance and impress Basic Betty. If she gets with Bob later in life, Bob will have a harder time trying to impress and keep Betty from becoming "bored." Betty has either had terrible experiences with men and Bob has to clean up. Or Betty had amazing experiences with men. What good is Bob anyway. Or Betty has her own life and career going for her. Bob would be a FRIENDly roommate at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:10 PM
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Chad-Rones usually date down for sex. Just like Stacy-Rone dates down for a wallet pump-n-dump of Basic Bob and Neckbeard Ned. Just because a 10% dates down does NOT mean commitment or raw intimate physical attraction will be the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:51 PM
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For MARRIAGE, men prefer younger because there is less baggage. Obviously there is bad baggage. But GOOD baggage is still baggage. At the end of the day, the man must monkey dance and put in effort. He doesn't want to be the "safe man." Examples of GOOD (but bad for the man) baggage is if her past relationships were all amazing. How the f* is Basic Bob going to measure up to those men. He will be "safe." If she has her own money, Basic Bob is STILL expected to be above her. If she wants to go to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:28 PM
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A man should self improve... HOWEVER, (1) There is ALWAYS a top %. It will just readjust. Go to Miami, LA, Atlanta, or Orange County. The low 6 figures is poverty. Every other man is a Pookie or a Chadrone. 6 feet might as well be 5' 5". (2) Unless the women also get in shape, the juice ain't worth the squeeze. The man will get improved for what? A "body positive" person who let jobless Ray-Ray put in 1/4th the work he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 06:27 PM
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Because most men dress normal. The Neckbeard Ned is only a small percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:02 AM
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The chart STILL shows that the grand percent is still even. Sure, the man does less "parenting," whatever that is defined as. But he still does enough chores and work to make up for it. The man would like to parent more. But his rent is due.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 01:06 AM
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It's cute to assume Basic Bob and Cubicle Carl can even get one-sided sex in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:12 AM
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For Basic Bob, what is the difference between a sex worker and a normal girl? Either way it's transactional. The regular girl only cares about Basic Bob's ability to be the dancing choremonkey and guy "FRIEND." As in viewed as a friend, not lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:18 AM
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Tinder became popular in 2015. That was 10 years ago. You said you are 40 now. So when you were 25, as I said in previous comments, online dating was niche or NOT the garbage today.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:04 AM
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You "missed it" as in when you were in your late teens/20's, online dating didn't yet exist. If it did, it was very niche. The 20 y/o would have had to find their partner in the real world. They also didn't have online inflating everyone's egos either. Once it appeared on scene, online dating actually worked for a short time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:15 AM
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Most men DO want genuine connections. Unless he is the top man, he is the "safe man." Most men will NEVER be "truly" desired (PHYSICALLY). He may be partially desired. He may be tolerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:21 AM
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What do you mean by "relationships?" For "dating," there is no limit. For a happy MARRIAGE, you should have MET the person by 25-28. If not, you're more than likely just marrying just to not be lonely. Past 25-28 (assuming FIRST MEETING), its just setting (by at least one party).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:05 PM
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First, make the ages 20-30, not 40. The 30-40 y/o's missed/barely missed the hellscape of online dating. "Online" is not just the apps. The 30-40 y/o may not even be aware of the Gen Z apps. Second, even if Basic Bob and Cubicle Carl appears, the average man is NOT viewed very favorable. Even for Bob and Carl's looksmatch, he is NOT favored. That means he will have high chances of being labeled a creep, even if his intentions weren't creepy. He could have said the wrong pickup line or something.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:01 PM
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Most men would accept their level. Sure, there are some who ONLY want "hot." There is nothing wrong with "dreaming" of dating the "hot" one. Who doesn't want that. But most men would be happy with Basic Becky and Cubicle Cathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:55 AM
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How about the "average" for an under 30 male who lives in a city/suburb? That is the one who has the most trouble dating. It will also get rid of the ones affecting the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:59 PM
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Not even once from AVERAGE who view me as somewhat attractive. But the times I was approached it was, (a) I was the "safe," settleDOWN(grade) option (b) I was the ATM, choremonkey guy, (c) Lonelyfans/str@ppers, (d) Female Neckbeard Nancy (e) Transformers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:53 PM
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Its NOT the delay itself. It's that Chad-Rone, Pookie, and Glocktavious didn't have to wait. If she is consistent with the men, then that is different. The funny thing is that the "waiting to weed" strategy is usually done for Basic Bob, but Ray-Ray gets instant access. So much for the "strategy" if Pookie is immune to it. But, the men are NOT entitled to her body. It just shows the man that he is just the "safe," "boring," "stable" guy. He is just a dancing chore monkey atm if he is the only gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:41 AM
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I'd view that as a very good deal. I know I am NOT the 6666 top % man. So it wouldn't make sense asking for a top dollar Ferrari when I am Honda Civic value person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:35 AM
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I wouldn't marry one. But it's their own body and choice. They wouldn't be ideal marriage material. But that is not an attack elsewhere in terms of other values. Values such as personality, friendliness, work/education history, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:41 PM
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Men prefer younger women for marriage because of. Less damage. If she was with Pookie, Tyrone, Glocktavious, it would cause problems down the line. Less chances of being the "safe" guy. If she had the best experiences and avoided points 1 and 2, the man has the burden of "wooing" her LONG TERM. If not, welcome to dead bedroom. She already been to that restaurant. She already traveled there. She already has every bag in that Louis Vuitton line. Even if the woman bought it herself, the man is stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:00 PM
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Men KNOW that priorities change. The woman's priority for the man above 30 is to have him be the "safe" guy rather than the "fun" guy. The man knows that the "safe" guy is the dancing chore/atm monkey. He knows he has to behave himself to get his basic, 5 minutes a week seggs rations. He may even have to buy food for Chad and Ray-Rays kid. The "fun" Pookie, Tyrone, and Glocktavious didn't have to do any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:40 AM
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Just because they are not "single" doesn't mean their desires are met. Most of the men who see str@ppers and lonelyfans are the Basic Bobs and Cubicle Carls. Sure they have "relationships." But they were, in their wife's/GF's eyes, the safe option. And if Bob and Carl "do" get their desires met, it's not "genuine." Bob had to do his little monkey dance. Carl gets half-assed intimacy. And the sad part is that Bob and Carl chose women in their "range." They didn't choose the 9/10 insta model. Bob …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:00 AM
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After the "red pill" was SHOVED down my throat, I accepted reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 08:46 AM
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The weight of consequences of cheating and a pinned child are WAAYY TOO DIFFERENT to compare. It sucks to get cheated on. In the instance of a kid that isn't his, not only did she cheat, she is pinning a kid onto a man for 18+ years.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:51 PM
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Of course. Men KNOW that there aren't enough Stacy-Rones to go around. A 5 man will have no problems with a 5 woman compared to the other way around (in terms of INTIMATE attrition).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:45 PM
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Men know they should keep in shape. If they don't, no one shows SIMPathy for them. There is no significant meaningful "body positivity" movement for neckbeards. Sure, Neckbeard Ned can have whatever "standards" he wants. But he will be relegated to the left swipe zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:43 AM
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Anyone can have whatever "standards" they want. Unlike Neckbeard Ned, when women complain about men not meeting their "standards," they receive SIMPathy. Unreasonable standards I simply define as not being within 1 or 2 points on a scale of 10 of what you want. If Neckbeard Ned is chasing after Stacy-Rone, he is being unreasonable. Sure, he can complain, but other men will tell him to STFU. If Landwhale Whitney wants the 6666 man, she can want him. But she is being unreasonable. If I want a Ferr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:48 AM
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Would Neckbeard Ned be in the same league of women who he "donated" money to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:50 PM
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Its not the standards itself. Its WHAT the "standards" are. A lot of "standards" are BS. IF it were the TRUE good guy, that would be different. But instead, Tyrone and Pookie have their reputation for a reason. No one is calling out Basic Bob and Cubicle Carl. For how big of a risk pregnancy is, and for "intuition," Pookie and Tyrone CONSTANTLY get missed. Yes, pregnancy IS a risk, but the lonely fans, hookup "culture" is still alive. Yea, pregnancy IS a risk. HOWEVER, the "standards" seem to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:59 PM
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They "can." They can find a goofy dingus HVM. Or they can be a part of a harem. I define an "HVM" as... Making $100K a year consecutively for 3-5 years. Anyone can have a good year. If he lives in high cost of living areas like NY, LA, Dallas, etc, the $100K becomes $300k-500k or more. The job is "resume" level. I should EASILY know what he does. "Entrepreneur" is too broad. "Senior Programmer at Microsoft" is specific. He has a network of other HVMs. Rappers, athletes, celebrities, etc, don't c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 12:14 AM
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Did Ferrari and Lamborghini mass produce their cars? Those are high demand. But the SUPPLY is LOW. And in those "legal" towns, if it is NOT with the company, it is not legal. The companies don't care about Basic Bob when Sugar Daddy Dan will EASILY pay top dollar. Who needs Basic Bob? The top 1% can EASILY meet the price. TL:DR is that "legal" sex work is NOT for Basic, oofy-doofy, dingus Bob. The money from rich Sugar Daddy Dan is enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:04 AM
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In the legal areas, the seggs workers can't just immediately work. The barriers to entry are HIGH. And you are using the "on paper" capitalism. In reality, the legal seggs work is in SMALL towns. Meaning one or two companies control the ENTIRE legal industry. Imagine ONLY Ferrari and Lamborghini control the ENTIRE auto industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:55 AM
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If the cost is too high, then the services can't produce a large enough sample size, ergo, the data is non existent. If the cost is too high, then the legalness doesn't matter if the status quo of non-legal and/or questionable methods remain. Sure, it's "available," but is it really? Ferraris and Lambos are "available." But they are TRULY "available" to the top. Just like the apps, the top men get everything and the Basic Bob gets table crumbs if he is lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:00 AM
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Even a couple of hundred dollars a month for a few photos is still good side money in this (future) economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 11:00 PM
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If anything, the seggs workers are MORE careful about diseases compared to the status quo of random hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:58 PM
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There probably is NOT much data. Sure, it's "legal," but it is NOT for the average or even above average man. Prices EASILY enter the THOUSANDS range for a Cubicle Cathy or Basic Betty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:55 PM
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The were "dates," but no actual dates. Before the "date," the men were told the truth that this was just an experiment. All the men took it well and were cordial.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:54 AM
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https:// w ww.re ddit. com/r /PurplePillDebate/s/utWB5mMqG8 Pretty much, a woman had 7 days to find 7 GOOD MEN. She found them in one day. She EASILY found them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:26 PM
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reddit.com/ r/ PurplePillDebate/s/CzWddYTuZT Someone asked that same question about "lack of good men." Before it was deleted, someone had a woman match with average men. Turns out, there IS ABUNDANCE of good men. Women were just aiming too high. edit https:// w ww.re ddit. com/r /PurplePillDebate/s/utWB5mMqG8
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:17 PM
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The man does NOT "choose" the red pill. The RP chooses the man. Most men are goofy, dingus Basic Bob. They aren't aware of reality (in dating/romance). Either through (a) getting dragged by the b@lls in the courts or (b) witnessing it. And even if the above happens, RP is JUST ONLY there to NOTIFY of the risks. His decision is up to him personally. The RP is NOT a "guidebook."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:20 AM
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Even without the materialistic things, the average man is still expected to bring "excitement" in a ROMANTIC relationship. As a woman ages, she has already experienced things. Good, bad, and in between, those memories are one less for Bob. And even if Bob and Carl DO create memories, do those new things trigger that strong dopamine rush compared to past men? Sure, Bob can learn about particle physics, but if that spark is not there (anymore), then they are just friends. Nothing wrong with regula…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 09:57 AM
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The wall, in terms of MARRIAGE, is NOT purely based on looks. Sure, looks matter, but NOT to a huge degree. As long as she eats clean, exercises, avoids drugs and alcohol, and gets regular sleep, she can maintain her looks well into her late 30s and early 40s. The "wall," for MARRIAGE is made up of her past experiences. Bad AND good to some degree. Even if she is single, that still has some degree of effect. For Basic Bob and Cubicle Carl, they have the burden of dancing like a stupid idiot monk…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:03 AM
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Of course. "You canNOT negotiate attraction." I got the physical interest locked in. Which gives us time and room to let us judge our personalities. If I was not attractive to her, I would eventually be a dancing chore monkey anyway. I would have to tread carefully around the "ick" minefield.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 07:02 AM
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Don't take "dating" too seriously. Come back once she locks him down. Some reasons include. She views him as a "settled" man. (In most cases, the man is equal +- a level). He is being used as a chore monkey. He is a placeholder. She has some niche attraction She only has access to him. He is putting in 4x the effort compared to desired men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:37 AM
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You mean men won't "MARRY" them. "Dating," yes, men will do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:25 PM
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Men are born with near-ZERO value.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 06:47 AM
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Those stats were from the Dept of Labor. Black WOMEN are above black men because of their gender. https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/08/us/dei-programs-diversity-list/index.html
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 06:29 AM
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Men are born INTO the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:31 AM
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Whenever people say they don't like "dei," it's usually in that context. If they say "DEI" in response to minorities, it is usually in that context. An example is people saying "Its those damn DEI hires that caused the DC plane crash." The TRUE "DEIs" would be the most rural conservative towns. The NUMBER ONE "DEI" beneficiary is a white woman. Veterans and rural residents also get large benefits from DEI. Guess who is at the BOTTOM of the beneficiaries. Black men. They don't get as much of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:21 AM
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Of course bigotry is not acceptable. CRITICISM is NOT "bigotry." To ACTUALLY get away with "bigotry," people use other terms like "woke" and "DEI." That is the new n-word.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:43 AM
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The asterisk that you forgot was ONLY the men who have their stuff together, kept in shape, and established are at their "peak." Neckbeard Ned and Basic Bob are 30-40 year old goofy dinguses. They were also 20 year old goofy dinguses.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:48 AM
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If he is attractive, the negative traits can be overlooked. He can still mess up. But he has more room for error.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:48 AM
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When RP says "older," they mean 30's and 40's. YOU are STRAWMANNING by bringing up retirement home, hospice, near death old men. Also, the man has to have his stuff together. If he is a fat, jobless 35 y/o, then he is still bottom barrel. If he lacks hygiene, he is bottom barrel. If he is a fat neckbeard, he is still bottom barrel. If he is "ugly," getting in shape and working out WILL do wonders. Sure, a SMALL % of men are "truly" ugly, but that is a SMALL % of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:38 AM
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Don't confuse "easy" in terms of dating vs MARRIAGE. High status men ARE "easy"... for DATING.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:47 AM
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Even for the AVERAGE woman, the average man still has to do what was described in the last paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:44 PM
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Is it TRULY "setting" if Cubicle Cathy, 5/10 settles with 5/10 Basic Bob? They are Honda Civic people. They can't afford a Ferrari. They will rarely MARRY 9/10 Chad/Stacy-Rone. But, if 5/10 Basic Bob marries 2/10 Bertha, then that would be "setting." Rarely do 5/10+ go for 2/10 Neckbeard Ned. If they do, he is a chore monkey ATM.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 04:16 AM
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Compared to women, even if the man himself doesn't take "accountability," SOCIETY will shove it down his throat. Accountability can also be consequences. 1) Child support 2) He gets broken up with 3) He gets mama drama and NO simpathy 4) Women can still put the kid up for adoption; Most men did NOT put Trump simps in the SC 5) Women's advice is to be a (not Reddit) "nice guy." 6) Most men don't support creeps. If he creeps in public, he gets punched in the face. 7) TRUE abusers are sent to jail.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 12:15 PM
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Correct. They can get their relational/intimate social and emotional needs met from their male friend without giving girlfriend benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:20 PM
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6 feet tall 6 figures 6 pack 6 inch (yes, that)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:20 PM
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The "Red Pill" is the understanding that intersexual dynamics between men and women, especially in terms of dating, are different than the "status quo." What men do with that information is up to them. TRP does NOT offer solutions. That is up to each specific man based upon his goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:27 AM
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Women are NEVER "truly" single. They CAN get validation from men. They can have sex easily. They can have emotional intimacy easily. It's the WOMAN's predominant choice to be "single." Sure, they are "single" as in NO "relationship." But they can get X, Y, and/or Z relationship benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 06:14 PM
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Yes, BUT if he is NOT her first choice, he will either end up the "safe" man or he will become a dancing monkey.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:05 AM
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I choose the risky option. The "safe" option is more likely going to be a "friend-zoned" husband LONG TERM. I can EASILY get EVERYTHING the safe man gets already (minus intimacy) with female friends as well as male friends. But in a "perfect world," it would be safe. In this perfect world, the safe man IS the man she is MOST PHYSICALLY attracted to. The problem now is that "safe" men aren't viewed as attractive compared to the "risky" option. Even if the safe man gets intimacy, it's either duty …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 09:48 AM
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Its easy to NOT lead with money. Just vet properly and don't bring her to expensive restaurants. He should also avoid wearing name brand clothing. The "third world" countries are more "modern" than people think. They don't live in mud huts. They have internet, cars, electricity, plumbing, iPhones, PS5s, etc. They even have decent healthcare too. The PPB should make it known that he lives in the country, knows some of their language, and separates himself from the tourists. The 3/10 woman is seen…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 06:26 AM
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For the more RP aware PPB, first, do NOT lead with money. Second, do NOT bring them back. Stay in THEIR country. The POOKIES and mail order men do that. I do NOT have it backwards. The 5/10 MAN would only receive attention from the 3/10 NOT-western WOMAN. The non-western is a 3/10. But compared to Americans, she instantly becomes a 5/10. She is in the average range in Basic Bob's eye. But she is still a 3/10 in her native country.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 04:00 AM
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The locals won't mind as much anyway. The PPBs have LOW chances of getting the top tier women in a foreign competition. Those women usually enter into relationships with the top % local man. However, a 3/10 non-western woman would convert to a 5/10 in western standards. That would be the looksmatch of the average, 5/10 man. For the locals, she is viewed as a 3/10, so "another man's trash is another's treasure." If the men are just "visiting," they are passport POOKIES.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 06:37 PM
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Women should MAINTAIN. Improvement is also nice. But she can improve DURING the relationship. For "careers," an average, 30-40K salary is good enough. She doesn't need to make 100K+ a year. For MAINTAINING value, all she needs to do is be somewhat in shape, not be a pain in the ass to be around, have no kids, have a decent job, and not be or have been promiscuous. That right there puts her in the TOP % of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 04:58 AM
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IF the 40 y/o was at least a 7/10, maintained a healthy diet, regular exercise, uses skincare products, as well as avoid drugs and alcohol during her life, then yes, it is ENTIRELY POSSIBLE to be looking like a 9/10. Especially since the competition (in western countries) is either fat, on drugs, and/or an alcoholic. The 40 y/o's "competition" is the weakest it has been and getting weaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 02:03 AM
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Is the bar really that low for women to where the TOP % just have to not be fat, not be mentally unwell, and to not have kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:03 PM
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If no one complained, then we would assume the status quo is good. Even if no policy solution is made (which is the case), it opens up men's eyes to the reality of the dating and marriage world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:43 PM
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It's NOT the work itself that is the problem. It's when compared to other men. If for Bob, he had to take her out to 5 star Gordon Ramsay for a month compared to Tyrone having to take her to McDonalds, that is the "work." If she is consistent, then that is acceptable. For the 1/4th the value (for MARRIAGE intentions), as time passes, she has experienced more dates, men, life, etc. The baggage would carry over into future relationships. Even if the baggage is NOT "negative," but very positive (fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:36 PM
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They got what you asked for. Why be sad. It's not like those males were wanted anyway (intimately). Rename this to the wallets are dropping out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:39 AM
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The WOMEN control access to their body. It's the WOMEN's responsibility. Men are in primary control of his resources. Women control their body. The FINAL decision lies with them. Also, the people who sleep around have the right to do so. If they do so, then so be it. The main point is that promiscuous people are risks in MARRIAGE, Chad-Rone as well. Getting men to suddenly stop casual sex is like trying to get women to stop seeking attention, money, resources, and/or validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:32 AM
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It's not the "work" itself. It's having to do 4x the work for 1/4 the value compared to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:21 AM
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Of course. But, those men that CAN sleep around are 1-5% of men. Also, people KNOW the local Chad-Rone. But yet, people STILL choose the Ray-Rays and Pookies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:18 AM
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No one "deserves" anything in dating. I also never made a statement that talks about what women "deserve." The 80% comes from 80% of men are viewed as dorky, goofy, dinguses in terms of attraction. I also said that 80% of women do NOT "qualify" for the top % of men. We have average, oofy-doofy, dingus, Basic Beckys wanting the top % of men. They shouldn't think that they can afford a "Ferrari" man on a "Honda Civic" salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:48 AM
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In my scenario, people can date who they want. If they date lonely fans girls, then so be it. If they date Chad-Rone, so be it. The problem, or lack of accountability, is when blame is NOT placed on oneself. Men tend to accept and say "I knew this lonely fan girl was trouble. It is my fault for spending money." Or the man will think "I know the str@pper doesn't care about me. I accept that." But if women gets with Chad-Rone, she has that choice. She can do what she wants. But, rarely do they say…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:16 PM
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It's NOT "men" as a collective's responsibility to take care of Chad-Rone's spawns. Also, women are the ones who control access to her body. Her body, her choice, HER RESPONSIBILITY. She has access to many forms of birth control, @b0rt10n (depending on the state). If that fails, she can "abandon" the baby at a fire station, hospital, or foster home. Men who buy lonelyfans KNOW what they are getting into. There is no "I am shocked that the lonelyfan girls don't like me for me." For the married ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:18 AM
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The problem is not "who" they date. People can date who they choose. The ACCOUNTABILITY (or lack of) is the problem. Men KNOW that insta-baddie str@ppers ONLY want money. Men don't keep it a secret. Women, compared to men, are more surprised that Chad-Rone ONLY wants bedroom fun. If women want bed fun with Chad, so be it. It's the lack of accountability that is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 03:48 AM
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Common "BP" gurus would be Steve Harvey and most female demographic talk show hosts. They tell women that they are perfect the way they are, be proud of your (caloric wealthy) body, and to never settle for "less." But the hosts fail to differentiate "less." They don't define "less" as lower than THEIR OWN ranking. BP is the status quo, society as normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:26 PM
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Of course men DO get married. But is he TRULY wanted, is she very physically attracted to him, or is he mainly the dancing ATM chore monkey dingus?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:22 PM
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If I made the post about women, it would never get past the liberal mod team. The hosts and celebrities don't sell "courses." They make ad revenue money. Every 30 second commercial is money for the TV show. Just because one person sticks their head in the sand doesn't mean everyone else will follow suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:42 PM
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Try telling that to women without being called "misogynist" or a "pick-me."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:00 PM
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Some blue pill "grifters" examples are Steve Harvey and most female talk show hosts. An example would be telling women not to settle for "best." But "best" is not CLEARLY defined. So we have a bunch of Basic Beckies going after the 6 foot man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:59 PM
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Unless the man is a Chad-Rone, the solution is to NOT cause a dead bedroom, be romantically intimate, be pleasant to be around, and not be a liability.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 12:55 PM
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Most women find >80% of men as unattractive. But yet people pander by claiming the 80% men need to step up. Yes, they should. However, no one tells the woman that she is also a Basic Betty, Cubicle Cathy who ALSO needs to "step up."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 06:44 AM
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"Red Pill" is the realization and eventual acceptance that the dating dynamics are NOT what the status quo presents. HOW a person uses and reacts to that knowledge is up to them. An example is Tupac BEFORE fame. He was the PERFECT "blue pill" man. He was ACTUALLY nice (not Reddit "nice"), emotionally available, caring, etc. But he was constantly overlooked by "future" Tupacs. Blue Pill Tupac then became red pilled and became THE Chad-Rone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 03:49 AM
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If the man is having to do all that, he is being PLAYED. He is a future member of deadbedrooms. The man she REALLY WANTS will NOT have to be as much of a dancing monkey. If women "really" want a "marriage," THEY should "invest" the most into it. That is why women leave so easily over the dumbest ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 01:17 AM
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Or, here's a WILD and CRAZY idea... ...They should date Basic Bob or Cubicle Carl. He would be the one who treats her right. She is a Basic Betty or Cubicle Cathy anyway. She has Honda Civic money. She gets Honda Civic men. No chasing the top tier Ferraris. And if she wishes, which is her choice, don't complain about being a "side piece" or "booty call."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 10:45 PM
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Women aren't "threatened" by being ROMANTICALLY alone because they are never truly alone. There is always some dude giving her attention and validation. There is some dude orbiting she can call for a meal. She can easily find a guy for the night if she so chooses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 01:11 PM
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The "strategy" might be. 90% of the "coaches"are trying to make a quick buck. But the "Red Pill" itself is NOT a "strategy," NOT a "guidebook." It is the realization and eventual acceptance that the dating dynamics are NOT what the status quo presents. HOW a person uses and reacts to that knowledge is up to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 04:26 AM
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They ain't getting jack. The main benefit is to "drink the (liberal, woman, LGBTQ, minority, foreigner, etc) tears." But the U30 shift is STILL THERE, benefit or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:46 PM
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Of course it won't show based on what "you" or "I" wants. The "population" (already) judges. The apps judge based on the swipe ratio. The people with lots of right swipes, messages, etc, will have high scores. The apps ALREADY KNOW the elo scores because they INTENTIONALLY show "10's" at the start to "entice" users. And for the example of the "killer rest of profile" people, their profile would help them get matches, therefore making up for looks deficiencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 02:44 PM
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Unless they are rich, or own bit-cons, nothing. But the fact STILL REMAINS, whether they benefit or not. The U30 men are moving right. My statement was about the U30's moving right. I did NOT initiate policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:46 PM
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If profits weren't a concern. The algorithms need to go. They KNOWINGLY hid matches from people because of subscriptions. Cap the left swipe limit for WOMEN. Show ONLY 100 men to women per 24 hours. This reduces the "overwhelming" amounts of men. Cap the matches who are on "standby" for women. Use the elo rankings to have the 5's get 5's, 7's get 7's, etc. Online dating USED to be better before corporate greed interfered. Back then, Basic Bob got with Basic Betty. Cubicle Cathy got with Cubicle …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:44 PM
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This would pretty much mean ONLY the top % men stay on. Basic Bob Cubicle Carl will be voted off. No one gives a shit about the average doofus, big oaf, dingus, Basic Bob. 80% of men ARE "Bob." 10% are Chad-Rone, and the other 10% are Neckbeard Ned.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:35 PM
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When we talk about men, the men UNDER-30 was the key factor. They are the ones who were "left behind." The U-30 men used to lean blue. But with how elections are so close, losing the U30 vote was DAMNING.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:31 PM
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They DO. But, it is the ones who are looking to pump-n-dump Basic Bob's ATM, wallet, and credit cards.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 11:16 PM
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Unless the man is Chad-Rone, men are NOT leaving in droves because of natural aging, etc. The woman aged, gave birth, etc WITH HIM.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 01:46 AM
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Its because they were fed BS while they were blue pill (the status quo). They were told that they should be the kind hearted, emotionally available man (PRE-fame Tupac). But instead, Chad-Rone, the opposite were actually attractive. Tupac became the IMAGE of the PERFECT Chad-Rone to get success. The PERFECT BLUE-PILL, PERFECT "emotionality available" Tupac had no significant success. If women and society were HONEST, then the rage wouldn't be as bad. For men, we KNOW what Chad-Rone wants. It's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:15 AM
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For the man, you get MGTOWs. The older variety. Not the "Cubicle Carl" neckbeard version. For the women, you get the current dating market. You get Basic Bob in a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 03:53 AM
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Why not communicate what you really want from the get-go? Unless the man is Chad-Rone, if Basic Bob goofy azz walks into a bar, club, etc, and says "I want sex from you. May you give it to me," he is going to jail. ALL men "pay" in some way for sex. Some get a discount. Payment is not always cash. Men pay either through money, energy, attention, time, and/or frustration.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:47 AM
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For a HAPPY (for BOTH parties) MARRIAGE, yes. With online dating, women move very fast. The man must monkey dance, clap his symbols, and ride his unicycle. He has the burden of not only impressing her, but keeping her from being "bored" of him. With how fast women can move, she already dated the 6 foot man, she already been to most types of restaurants. If Basic Bob were to take her to Hawaii after scrounging up the cash, he would hope that the ex didn't take her there first. She already has the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 11:42 PM
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We know. Men usually don't complain about how his wallet was pumped and dumped by a lonelyfans girl. If he did, no one feels simp-athy for him. Men aren't chasing party girls for relationships. They are to be rented. We know we are man #26,853. Men are having difficulties finding a decent long term prospect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:46 AM
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Because the Pookies will RUIN it for the men who want to LIVE overseas. The PPB's are OUTSIDERS. If one idiot Pookie out of 1,000's of men starts pookiing, then the natives will lump ALL foreigners (PPB's) as idiot Pookies. Just like when women complain that men are all $h1tbag cheaters, they really mean CHAD-RONE is a $h1tbag cheater. Basic Bob and Cubicle Carl pays for the sins of Chad-Rone. The PPB's who don't want to get involved with the toxic nightlife culture MUST distance themselves from…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 08:01 AM
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The 4B movement is and already has been in the US. Ya'll are freaking out over nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:01 PM
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I would date "Basic Becky." Most average men would be happy with average Basic Becky. But nowadays thanks to online dating, even Basic Becky doesn't want Basic Bob. Becky has been able to date Chad-Rone for years now. Why date Basic Bob?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 10:33 AM
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The "4B" is and has always been here. Women already do this. With online dating, Basic Bob and Cubicle Carl are NOT wanted. If Bob and Carl do date, they are more than likely (a) having their wallet pumped and dumped or (b) the "safe," "settledown" target.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 01:39 AM
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If I never found the pictures, I wouldn't yet know. But once I found out, yes, it would factor into not marrying. Compared to the NFL guy, I am most definitely the goofy-azz guy. I would suspect that I am the "safe" option LONG TERM. In the presented example, I am shooting too high above my level.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 02:50 AM
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Yes. It is still too early in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:21 AM
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I would date but not marry. Sure, she would be perfect. But unless the guy is an NFL QB, is HE "perfect" in terms of PHYSICAL attraction. Of course she would be perfect for Cubicle Carl's goofy self. Basic Bob is a perfect "safe" man. Yes, she is interested in me. But is she interested in me as the safe option? Also, it's EARLY in the "dating" process. Of course everyone is all excited and happy. People change over time. People also change later in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:12 AM
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It's not that they "can't." It's the value vs resources. Sure he can get one. But will he be the "safe" option. Is he having to be a dancing chore monkey while others don't have to. Is the quality of the girl decent. Does he have to take her to 5*, $500 Gordon Ramsay dinners while her exes took her to the Cheesecake Factory.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:50 AM
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The mistake in this topic is putting late bloomers in the same category as the socially inepts first. Sure, a SMALL % of men are both. However, most men are NOT socially inept. They don't communicate in grunts, moans, and hisses. They are able to socialize with friends, family, workers, strangers. Heck, they have many female FRIENDS. They just aren't able to have a GIRLfriend with reasonable effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:35 AM
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And if men STILL complain AFTER the admission, then those men will be viewed as dumb. Even after they were told that fire is hot, those dumb men still stick their head into it. You can't fix those stupid men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:18 AM
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"Casual" doesn't mean jack. Come back once she SECURES him. Sure, Neckbeard Ned can get "dates." But is a wallet pump and dump an achievement? Are those women attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:16 PM
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Let it rot. There will ALWAYS be the top 5%. A MACRO level self improvement will NOT solve it. It is MATHEMATICALLY impossible. The top 10% will readjust. Go to Miami, NY, LA beaches. Making $100k is POVERTY. A Ferrari is your daily driver. Men will still have to put in 10x work for 1/10th the result. Therefore, men should sit back and watch it burn.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:11 PM
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Keyword is "MOSTLY." Unless he is Chad-Rone, but even if he is Chad-Rone, the breast and butt sizes don't matter in the end. Its the weight that does.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:30 AM
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Other than the athletic build and obese man, a bone skinny man is less attractive than a "big" man (think of club bouncer or security). The reason is that the big man is able to be more protective compared to Mr. Bones.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:28 AM
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For Chad-Rones and single men, of course they want sex. The problem with your version of AF/BB is (1) men who are not single would have no problems in the LONG TERM having lots of sex with the SAME person. And (2), the man will NOT "resent" her or make her into a chore monkey. There would be less of a chance of a dead bedroom version of provision.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 08:22 AM
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Men feel "emasculated" because SHE "emasculates" him. Eventually, LONG TERM, if the man doesn't catch up, he will be treated as a dancing chore monkey at best. She will begin to lose physical attraction to him. He will become a roommate, not her boyfriend. Even though women make money now, they STILL want a man who makes more. Even if they say "equal" earning, the man who makes more is preferred. There ARE men who would like to have a higher earning girlfriend. The girls tend to NOT want him. Su…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:09 AM
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For LONG TERM (with marriage intent), it's the DiCaprio rule. If the woman is in her 30's+, there is a high chance that I am the settleDOWN(grade) man in HER eyes. Sure, the first few years will be good. But this is (very) long term. I am not going to be the dancing chore monkey after several years for pity duty sex. I also don't want to be the guy doing 10x the work compared to past men. For SHORT TERM (NOT marriage), as long she is attractive (just be somewhat fit and friendly), not treating m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:28 AM
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In those areas is the cost in the $X,000's or even $XX,000? In Nevada, services run that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 12:00 AM
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In those areas is the cost in the $X,000's or even $XX,000?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:59 PM
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It's cheaper for the AVERAGE man to hire a prostitute. In the long run, it is less risky and more consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:57 PM
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Its the dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:55 PM
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In those areas is the cost in the $X,000's or even $XX,000? A google search found that Las Vegas runs that much. So of course it fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:53 PM
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I would stay in that relationship. However, I would NOT get married to her. If I am having to put in 2x the effort compared to previous men, I am out. Eventually she'll become bored of me. Either that or I'll eventually become a dancing monkey for pity sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 01:31 PM
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I would be rather be picked than settled (in THEIR eyes). Even if we are both 6's, if she is disappointed because I am not an 8, then that is me being settled for in HER eyes. I don't want to do 10x the effort for the same thing compared to other men. Eventually, I'll become a dancing chore monkey roommate at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:18 AM
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A man with zero IS neutral. What percentage of men make 6 figs fresh out of high school? A man making an average salary IS neutral as well, even if he isn't "accomplished." If the man is in debt, then that is BELOW neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 11:52 AM
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For a man with "potential," he is ACTIVELY working to better himself. That is what differentiates him from the rest of the Basic Bobs out there. For a woman, as long as she keeps in shape, she is doing better than most. Sure, her face is probably average. But her physique puts her above average. As a bonus, if she is NOT into clubs and "girls nights out," she is IMMEDIATELY TOP TIER.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 11:50 AM
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Its because the woman is viewed as dating only. The man is getting the benefits of dating without the hassles of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:21 PM
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Women who make more than her male husband wouldn't be physically or verbally abusive in the standard sense. However, she may grow to resent him if he can't keep up with HER "lifestyle." He may also be a prime candidate for dead bedrooms or duty sex. He may be treated more as a chore monkey than someone she lists after. He will end up being friendzoned. For a man, if he was picked up AFTER he gained money, then of course he may cheat and all that. For a man who was chosen BEFORE he got money, he …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 03:47 PM
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The way it is written makes it seem like a majority of "struggling" men are autistic, socially inept men who can only speak in grunts and groans. In reality, a majority of men are struggling in TERMS OF DATING. Sure, some autists speak in grunts and groans. The small percent doesn't make the rules. Most men have no problems communicating with female classmates, bosses, clients, coworkers, etc. The problem is getting into a decent ROMANTIC relationship with a woman who cares. Most men end up as "…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:15 PM
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Sure. 1) MOST men aren't having sex with multiple people in a month anyway. A lot of men aren't even having sex at all. 2) Frequent testing is recommended. STDs can be transmitted withOUT sex. 3) As long as the woman pays for once a month tests. (The standard is usually every few months). The men pay themselves for their paternity tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 09:06 AM
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All what you just said takes YEARS, ergo, the man will be in his 30s. Sure, he may not "have" to be CEO, BUT, to earn a near 6 figure salary, he WILL have to put in years of work. Being an average Cubicle Carl code-monkey is not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:32 PM
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Of course an average, basic, 5-6 man can "attract" a female version of a neckbeard. Of course if he goes after a 1-2 woman, sure. But will he be happy and proud? (SMV rankings are on a standard distribution bell curve)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:17 AM
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Unless someone is a genetically gifted trust fund baby, then SEVERAL YEARS is normal. First, they must go through years of learning to be qualified for a job. Then they must endure the corporate ladder climb. No one is going to be CEO or senior manager after a year. For a good physique, it takes YEARS of clean eating and working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 05:26 AM
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The strategy is NOT "sitting on one's butt" all day while waiting. The solution is to SELF IMPROVE. If course a hermit who doesn't do anything will still be a hermit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:31 PM
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Not really. "Dating" =/= Marriage "Dating" =/= Treatment of others Women have their pick of the litter in dating. Men get what is available. Of course men will "date" outside their race. Dating doesn't mean jack. But will they MARRY and have kids? Women tend to be more open to HAVING KIDS outside of their race. There is nothing wrong with preferences. Just because one doesn't "prefer" to date an Asian or Indian does NOT mean they have ill will. It is just a different form of socialization. Peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 12:49 AM
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How many times will you make "social skill" topics. Is the "need to be right" THAT faking strong with you? The "double/triple down" are these CONSTANT topics. Is it because you keep getting undesirable responses (aka, good counter arguments). Also, define "success" for a MAN. Sure, a sociable skilled man "can" get "dates." But will he "succeed?" Your definition of "success" is probably different from mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:59 PM
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Average man : "above" average woman. Sounds like a good match to me. 1 or 2 points above average is good enough. A 5 man and a 6 woman is still good. It's not like they (average at best people) were chasing after Chad-Rone. Average people get average quality. If they make Civic money, they get Civics. Average people don't get "Ferraris" or "Lamborghinis" (at least LONG term). Even in the country-side, the results would probably be the same percentages if population was factored. The average rura…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:40 PM
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Its NOT just a "social" interaction. There are MANY kinds of social interactions. Most men ARE "skilled" at socializing. Social as in with the men, co-workers, business partners, classmates, teachers, bosses, etc. I don't know how many people remember the old topic where a girl experimented Tinder as a girl who "dated" the average man. 7 dates in 7 days. They actually found 7 RESPECTABLE men in 1 day. Turns out, the average man is NOT this socially inept boogeyman, Chris Hansen creeper after all…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:16 PM
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This should be played on repeat. " "Dating" does NOT mean jack. Come back IF she locks down said attractive man in a HAPPY marriage for BOTH parties that stands the test of time." Dating means nothing. Dating itself was NEVER a "handicap" for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:31 PM
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On a standard BELL curve, most men WILL be in the 4-6 range. About 50% are "4-6's," while only 0.1-1% are 10/10. If a lot men self improve, the numbers will be recalculated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 10:21 PM
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Its NOT the "unattractive" part. MOST PEOPLE are MATHEMATICALLY 4-6's. Meaning the 5 man is getting rejected by his TRUE range (-2 as well).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:40 AM
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We do NOT. Online "dating" (including Instagram, Twitter, Twitch, Tiktok, etc) REVEALED the TRUE nature of people. Just acknowledge that "dating" is TRANSACTIONAL for 95% of people. If married, Basic Bob, which is 80-95% of men (NOT including Neckbeard Ned), will NOT be truly loved. Basic Bob will NEVER be her first choice. Basic Bob WILL be resented long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:30 AM
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Chores aren't the only problem. You are also talking about HOUSE chores and IGNORING the OUTSIDE chores. Sure, outside chores aren't "everyday." But the difference is made when accounting for how labor intensive, risk of injury, unpleasant weather, skill gap, and/or nastiness. Usually, she WILL try to wiggle and squirm away if a man offers to TRADE house chores with outside chores. Also, chores aren't going to cure a dead bedroom or make her more aroused by him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:25 AM
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The reason for the declining birthrate is out if control mega corporations. Even in Asian developed countries, the birthrate is f'd. And their government style is different. "Democracy," socialism, communism. Doesn't matter. Its all about the GREED. Let's take China for example. They are one the most anti-woman developed economy out there. Even they are having troubles. What do ALL of these countries have in common? People have to slave away just to get by. Just to survive. Just to TRY to get ah…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 09:54 AM
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Of course it got deleted. This sub is ran (mostly) by blue pilled people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:18 AM
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1) Dating =/= Marriage. Who gives a flying F about "dating." Come back with a successful marriage for BOTH parties. 2) Yes, SWs and such "can" get married. However, will the marriage be satisfactory for BOTH parties? Is it satisfying if Basic Bob is treated like a dancing chore monkey in a dead bedroom? Is it satisfying if Chad-Rone is constantly mistreating her?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 06:06 PM
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For "dating," of course. "Dating" does NOT mean jack shaight. Marriages/common law marriages is what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:02 AM
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Of course the WOMEN get married with no issue. Of course she is happy with her Basic Bob, chore monkey, monkey dancer for that once a month pity sex. Of course she is happy because once she is bored of Bob, she is favored by the courts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:39 AM
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Yes. As the female version of Tyrone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:09 AM
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Setting is getting significantly less than what one's TRUE value is. If someone gets a Honda Civic, has Civic money, but says they "settled" for that instead of a Ferrari, they are full of $h1t. They don't have Ferrari money. They have Civic money. They got what they can afford. If a man is a 4/10, chases after 9/10 insta e-girl, has his wallet pumped and dumped, but eventually finds 4/10 Basic Bethany, he is NOT "settling." He is getting his TRUE value. Unfortunately for Bethany, Basic Bob migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:48 AM
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Setting is getting significantly less than what one's TRUE value is. If someone gets a Honda Civic, has Civic money, but says they "settled" for that instead of a Ferrari, they are full of $h1t. They don't have Ferrari money. They have Civic money. They got what they can afford.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:41 AM
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MOST MEN who married his wife BEFORE she turned 40 are NOT seeking to cheat. Sure, 20 y/o's are more attractive. BUT, that does NOT mean he is seeking to cheat or leave. Most men want the 10/10 model. But most men KNOW that is a FANTASY. They are COMPLETELY happy with their looksmatch. They don't chase the Stacy-Rones. Men tend to NOT "resent" Basic Bethany. HOWEVER, if he was a Chad-Rone, then yes. If he is in a dead bedroom, then maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:35 AM
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The difference between long term and marriage is that, once a woman is in her late 30's, the man MUST do a few long years of FBI level background investigation. He needs to know what he is getting into. Anyone can "pretend" to be nice and sweet for 6-12 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:55 AM
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If the guy won't marry her, he is just using her. Same as if Basic Bob has been with a twitch, insta girl for 7 years, but is in a dead bedroom. Being an ATM or getting johnsons isn't that difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:50 AM
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Women must MAINTAIN. If her personality is bad, it's just bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:33 AM
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The creteria were In shape Not creepy, weird, sending seggual messages Employed Able to hold a conversation Above average in looks Not a Chad-Rone They even had pictures of the dates to prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:35 PM
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Didn't we have a topic here last week that showed that a woman could get 7 dates in one DAY with a good man?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:23 PM
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"I can't control my wife" is just a guilt tactic for when men put REASONABLE boundaries up. Examples include no "girls trip" to Miami, no clubbing with the single "friends," no sleepovers with the ex boyfriend, etc. The man should acknowledge her for her and act accordingly. Even if it means walking away. Other red pillers say "She is NOT yours. It's just your turn." What men do with their red pill knowledge is up to them alone. There are no RP secret meetings in which "doctrines" are written.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:16 PM
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"Been" broken up with means HE called it off. You could still break up with 1000s of men but only "have been" broken up ONCE. I don't count "almosts." Is there a MARRIAGE?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:41 AM
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You wrote it yourself... SINGLE. When we talk about obtaining HVMs, we mean MARRIAGE. "Dating" doesn't mean anything. You bragging about "getting" HVMs is like a neckbeard bragging about "getting" insta models and e-streamer girls. If someone is just being pumped and dumped (physically or as an ATM), it's NOT a "flex."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:53 AM
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I never assumed the ranking for the woman. Even so, Basic Becky can still be at the wall for MARRIAGE if she did those as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:28 PM
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The "wall" as you are describing in terms of MARRIAGE is NOT primarily about looks. Sure, looks are a part, but NOT the deciding factor. Even if looks did matter, these men out here are starving. These men would put their dongs inside of a tree if it was wet with sap, honey, and/or maple. Old grandmas with one foot in the grave can get seggs if she wanted to. What women fail to understand is that the man MUST keep her "excited." The man MUST "monkey dance" and avoid the ick minefield. By time sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:00 PM
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Even IF the average, basic Bob gets the "hot" girl, he had to put in MORE EFFORT, time, energy, resources, attention, and/or frustrations than previous men. Also, is she as attracted to him compared to previous men. Will Basic Bob get the BEST version of her? Will she be more restrictive with Basic Bob?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 04:21 AM
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The SPOUSE comes first. Even though the spouse is first does NOT mean neglect the kid. If the "foundation" of the family falls (the husband and wife) the ENTIRE HOUSE collapses. The kid(s) are NOT (that) stupid. They KNOW how to sense conflict between unhappy parents. The happiness of the husband and wife will give positivity to the kid. Also, the kid will be GONE in 18-2x years. If they put the kid first, once the kid is gone, assuming the parents are still together, they would just be roommate…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 11:52 AM
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By what TYPE of "attraction" do you mean? For men being perceived by women, there are TWO TYPES pf attraction. One is lust. Do you excite her physically. And the second is safety and security. For status, it can feed into both. If one is popular and in a position of power within his social group, then that helps with lust. If he just has money, that feeds into the walking ATM part. Men are a mix of both. Men tend to NOT want to be the Basic Bob paying 10x as much for what other men only put in 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:03 AM
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The man should be available for HER emotional needs. If the man expresses himself, it MUST be what SHE deems as "acceptable." Failing at #2 risks her losing attraction to him. The man does NOT know her TRUE acceptable emotional event types. There is NO condition of confidentiality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:14 AM
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You only quoted PART of what I said. You did NOT quote the FULL STATEMENT. They want "emotionally intelligent" men that follows HER "conditions."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:54 AM
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Because most men believe that all women are angels who can do no wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:35 AM
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The TREE. The tree won't hold my words against me. The tree won't be judgmental. The tree won't tell its tree friends about private things. It won't lose attraction. The tree won't consider it "emotional labor." Women SAY they want "emotionally intelligent" men. They do NOT say they want emotionally intelligent men, but ONLY for THEIR "emotions" or ONLY what they "deem" fit. But that man doesn't or will never know what she is defining as truly "fit."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:31 AM
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A major reason men stay in "unhappy" marriages is because of the old. "It's cheaper to keep her" strategy. The man would be raked in divorce court, especially if the custody fight turns bitter. A second reason is that a man is more willing to SOLVE the problem. He doesn't have an easy out. He doesn't have an inbox or "friends" of interest women on standby.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:29 PM
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Random men are NOT human bodyguard objects for random women. That is the responsibility of the police. Even if men do intervene, the criminal has more protections. Gone are the days of street justice. The "good samaritan" could face legal problems or viewed as a threat for getting involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:22 AM
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I never said the other men were unfavorable. They are NOT COUNTED, ergo, the numbers will skew towards "men" = deplorable creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:18 AM
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When Chad-Rones have 100s of options, he doesn't need to be "available" in a relationship. Sure, in terms of character, Chad-Rone is cool. Chad-Rone is way more of an interesting person to kick it with as a man-to-man friend. But in terms of relationships, he isn't a reliable partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:47 AM
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Without Bob and Carl, the numbers will skew men more as deplorable creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:40 AM
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Because most of them are more reliable than Chad-Rone, more emotionally available tjan Chad-Rone, more loyal than Chad-Rone. But they are average, 5, on the looks scale. They aren't as "fun" and "exciting."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:38 AM
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It's more like the 99% of men do NOT exist at all. The 99% of "men" are the janitor that no one notices. No one notices the stocker at Walmart. They are just NPCs in life. And yes, most men are NOT the "boogeyman."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:24 AM
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Bob and Carl are the average man. They make up 90% of the western male population. But since they are invisible, the actions of Chad-Rone heavily taints the image of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:22 AM
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Good for you. My data was from Tinder and Bumble. Those are more relevant TODAY. And you responded to me in reference to the Tinder and Bumble studies. But, if it were 10-15 years ago, then the OKStupid study would be relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 12:35 PM
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I'm NOT referring to the OKStupid study. Who uses that still? I'm referring to Tinder and Bumble match stats. *edit I WISH it were the OKStupid study era. Sure online dating is crap. But back then, it was less crap than it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:49 AM
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The men who ACTUALLY get to message are the Chad-Rones. Of course they have their picks. Basic Bob and Cubicle Carl (95% of men) don't have "options" to even be in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:01 AM
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At the end of the day, most of dating is done online for the <30 crowd. Second, the WOMEN have the FINAL say in who they date. Data shows the 6666 man is what gets chosen. Third, no one is saying get on meds. They ACTUALLY say "eat right, work out, don't be an all day gaming, pr0n watching, neckbeard man."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 05:10 AM
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Men already view women on the apps fairly. The men's rankings are already a bell curve. For the looks and personality, BOTH are needed. If someone is attractive, but a pain to deal with, they are fun only. If someone has a great personality, but unattractive, they are friends. Even if they are unattractive physically, it doesn't mean the person isn't valuable for non-intimate things. If someone tries to be in a relationship with someone they find unattractive, the bedroom will be dead and/or the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 05:08 AM
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The $100,000 is separate from the physical appearance. But yes, other than that, yes, there are in fact 4 "6s."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 04:36 AM
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If the man ain't the 666 man, he KNOWS he ain't that physically attractive compared to the competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 04:23 AM
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Even WITHIN the US, they get mad. They view it as their "retirement plan" leaving. Those men would have been their "Basic Bob Bucks" plan. In the US, if their male "friend" finds a girlfriend, that means LESS resources she extracts from the man. A more relevant example is how some b1acque women are ANGRY at b1acque NFL draftees for dating yt women. Before those men were NFL draftees, those SAME b1acque women thought of those men as corny, nerdy, unattractive, and dusty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:58 AM
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It's less about confusion and more about eliminating "plausible deniability."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:17 AM
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But the comment I replied to mention sex workers only. Those two have DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS, ergo, NOT "interchangeable." (if you understood English definitions).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:41 AM
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Sex workers are NOT ALWAYS prostitutes. They can be strippers, lonelyfan "models," etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:34 AM
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Is it telling them to choose "undesirables?" OR, is it telling them to (a) find men ON THEIR LEVEL (10s get 10s; 5s get 5s; 2s get 2s), and (b) Be aware that straight heterosexual men do like sex. The Chad-Rones ONLY want sex most of the time. Basic Bob wants sex, AS WELL AS a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:44 AM
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(1) They tend to be promiscuous for the TOP %. (2) Basic Bob runs the risk of "I'm not happy" and/or her giving her seggual best to others instead of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:43 PM
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In terms of SMV, men must create value. Women must maintain their value.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:41 PM
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Keyword is BOYFRIEND. Marriage is what is counted. But if he spent 20 years with someone, he isn't in his 20's or 30's anymore. Also, there is a chance that the man is a Basic Bob. Nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:40 PM
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Building their career, income, resume, assets, physique, charisma, etc. Why? To better themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:20 AM
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Less than a few percentage of those 60% are "mature" enough to be visible. Most men are (or should be) building in their 20's. Those men are viewed as unworthy. And if the man IS "mature" and NOT in a relationship, there is a high chance it is HIS TRUE choice to not date. He has the right to not date, even if he IS "qualified."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:10 AM
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Its very easy. It's done by NETWORKING. Just by doing the everyday work, they WILL encounter peers of equal standing. Lawyers will meet other lawyers, engineers will work with other engineers, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 10:04 AM
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Even though the pookie is wanted does NOT make him "high value." In addition, Pookie is a net LOSS to society. The "Pookie" helps contribute to broken homes, broken families, job instability, crime, and prison stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:51 PM
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Most men DO want kids. But MOST men are invisible. Of course Pookie doesn't want him. But Pookie is only a small % of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:46 AM
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"MOST" men DO want their kids. Of course there are $h1tty Pookies who don't, but MOST men do. Also, women aren't these angels either. There are also a small % of women who don't want kids. But the men get the short end of the stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:45 AM
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The "hvm" is a man who meets ALL of these criteria. Make at LEAST $100k a year for 3-5 years. The $100k minimum could be HIGHER in places like LA, NY, Miami, Hawaii, etc. Some areas require $300-$500k. Anyone could have a good year. CONSISTENCY is key. Be recognizable by others in terms of networking. Being useful to others We can tell EASILY what they do. The executive marketing director at Goldman Sachs is more specific than "entrepreneur." 90-95% of athletes, entertainers, and rappers are NOT…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:25 AM
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You FORGOT the part that ONLY the peaking men (a) kept in shape and (b) got their $h1t together in their 20's. The man spent his 20's working towards his career and his physique. It takes a decade or two to advance enough in his career AND several years of training to get the physique. If skinny fat Cubicle Carl at his $50k job ain't doing $h1t, of course he won't "peak."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:17 AM
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Men tend to NOT value, (but NOT disregard) women's accomplishments because she does it mainly for HER. When a man goes to work at his $h1t job, he does it for the family. He does it for the family name on his back. The woman would do the work for HER. His money is OUR money. Her money is HER money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:40 AM
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The "honest" part would work ONLY IF people can accept the truth. But it is still a good idea. Chad-Rones will say "I ONLY want to sleep with you. You are not getting commitment from me." Basic Bob will be told "I will lose attraction (if I had any). The bedroom will die off. During my 20's, I gave my s3ggual best to my exes. You will get starfish, duty s3ggs. You are not my first choice." Knowing that, the men and women would KNOW what they are getting into.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:36 AM
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Its more of have the average like average. The hots like hots. The swamp creatures like swamp creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:28 AM
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Well it's a good thing the topic is "What will you change."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:13 AM
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People know their TRUE worth. No "4's" who think they are 9's. Men will stop simping Women will know that just because Chad-Rone swiped right doesn't mean he wants commitment. But if they want that life, that is their call. At least no one will get shocked when it's over. Thats just a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:54 AM
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1) Even IF attraction does "grow," the man is putting more money, energy, attention, time, and frustration doing the monkey dance. He must also jump through hoops and avoid foxxing up. Men want a good effort to result ratio. Would the juice really be worth the squeeze. 2) There is LUST attraction. There is STABILITY attraction. If he is more of the stability option, he is just the "participation trophy" husband in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:38 AM
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I would date, but not marry her. But if I have to put in more resources than the previous men, then no. Just because the previous men were physically unattractive doesn't mean they can't make up for it in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 11:55 PM
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The RP would have told him in order to get a GF he MUST IMPROVE. He should put in work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:44 AM
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That brings up the "Trust a woman not when she weeps because it is in her nature to weep for her will." She is probably crying crocodile tears for SIMPathy. Why cry on the internet to 1000s of strangers? It's for the ATTENTION.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:36 AM
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The "Red Pill" is NOT a verb. Thus it cannot be "done." It is just info about the TRUE nature of women. What can be done is the actions. Men can use it positively, as in be the best they can be. Or they can be negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 03:09 PM
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That is what the RP seeks to find. They seek to find the TRUE desires from the "illusions." What happens next is up to the individual to decide. The individual decides what to do with the knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 12:20 PM
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Just because they have the choice does NOT mean people can't be pissed. If you don't believe that, look at the Roe v. Wade. Yes, the SC DOES have that choice. HOWEVER, women had the choice of being PISSED.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:56 AM
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Even if the woman in question didn't chose him... (A) If his dating profile were to show up back then, would she have chosen him rather than the others. (B) Did she date men that were as similar as possible to the man in question?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:52 AM
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LONG TERM they aren't. Women THINK just because Chad-Rone is seggualy attractive to them does NOT mean he is attracted to them for marriage. Sure, it's all "fun" in the moment. But a decade or two later, once they fail to lock down a Chad, they aren't satisfied. It's like eating cake. Sure, it tastes good. It still tastes good decades later. Eventually he wake up fat. He isn't proud of being fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 06:46 PM
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If course men would. BUT, the glaring problem is that men and women are NOT the "same." Women, long term, are NOT happy being PnD'd by Chad-Rone. To make it REALLY the same, ask "Would a 6/10 man be happy having his wallet PnD'd by the 9/10 insta 'model'?" Unlike this scenario, just because a Chad-Rone sleeps with a woman doesn't mean he wants commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 03:27 PM
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The top % PRE-paid. They prepaid in terms of putting in the YEARS of work, effort, and energy to become top % to begin with. Now, they are reaping the benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:33 PM
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The REAL definition of settle down is setting for what one ACTUALLY is. With 304flation, a 4 who believes she is a 9 is NOT settling "for" a 4 man. But in her mind, she thinks she is settling "for." If a 4 settles with a 4, even though they WANT a 9, the 4 is not settling "for."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 04:37 PM
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If they aren't MARRIED, then they are not committed. "Dating" and "relationships" don't mean much if one cannot RETAIN and KEEP the partner. It's just "exclusive" until the timer runs out, when a problem arises, or when "boredom" happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:15 PM
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Yes. One guy is basically a Pookie/Ray-Ray. Women KNOW he is a Pookie, but they cling on to the hope that they are the one. Another is the Chad, former athletic star from his junior college days. He was the "Chad" of that school. Both guys were pleasant to be around. Just because a man is a Chad-Rone, it doesn't mean they are terrible people overall. Just terrible LONG TERM prospects for 95% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:04 PM
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The men who are quality have standards for MARRIAGE. Sure he will have s3ggs with less standards, but will he marry her? Women have standards for s3ggs. Sure, they'll "commit" to Basic Bob (his $$$). Sure they'll go on a $1,000 date with neckbeard Cubicle Carl, but will she avoid drying up? Sure she'll take Beta Brad's $1,500 Louis Vuitton bag, but does she get the tingles?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:24 AM
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(1) What percentage of the obese is less than 30 years old. If most of the overweightness is on the older people, that messes up the average. (2) Even IF Basic Bob loses weight, he would only be in the top 30%. For the under 30 crowd, online is the primary way people meet. And the match rate is now (approaching) ONE percent (1%). He still needs 29% more to go. Unless Bob is in the top, he is STILL an invisible NPC. For women, these thirsty, desperate men would STILL date an overweight woman. Sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:19 AM
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The "Red Pill" tells people the relationship world in the west as it ACTUALLY is, whether we like it or not. There is no one fit all "solution." Issues like AI, economy, gun violence, etc. We all know those are a problem. The solutions are debatable. The choice is YOURS.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:13 AM
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The men who "explode" are only a SMALL % of men. Second, the men would be hesitant for MARRIAGE. They will still be cordial. Third, men don't need to ask directly. Most men know they won't get the correct answer anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:51 PM
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For #2, it ONLY works with QUALITY MEN IF she made the other men wait as well. The man WILL feel scammed if he had to jump through hoops and wait while Chad, Tyrone, RayRay, Pookie, Fernando, Chang Lee, and Tang Ling had to put in significantly less effort. If she makes Chad-Rone wait, he will just say "next." The simp men will wait. The quality man will find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:08 PM
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These men are STARVING out here. The man may not be a 9 or 10, but a 7 or 8 is still good. The 7/8's will still have a ONE night hookup. After that, post clarity kicks in and they escape faster than an escaped inmate. Do NOT underestimate the h0rn1ness of these thirsty azz ninjas and simps out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:47 PM
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Are women TRULY "single?" Would women REALLY be happy if they were TRULY single? If a woman wants seggs, she can find Chad-Rone for a night. If she wants $$$, she can foodie date a simp. If she wants companionship with a male, she can hang with her male "friends." Women can EASILY get the missing relationship pieces easier, cheaper, and legaler than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:43 PM
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The "red pill" primary tells the cold hard truth about relationships. For MEN, (the FEMALE "red pill") is there really a "need?" Society doesn't feed women the myth of "be a good wittle boy and you will be attractive to women" lie. Men aren't that complicated. Is it really a secret that the top men ONLY seek s3ggs? Is it really a secret that the "NPC" men DO want relationships? Is it really a secret that heterosexual men want s3ggs? Is it really a shock that Pookies gonna pook?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 09:54 AM
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Does it really count if she is punching above her SMV for Chad-Rone? If some Basic Bob gets rejected by 9/10, twitch, e-girl, insta model Stacy, that is expected. But the difference is Basic Bob is BRUTALLY rejected by BASIC (and BELOW) Betty, Cubicle Cathy, and Plain Jane
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 10:51 PM
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If you are a man, take into account your income, looks, fitness, height, and amount of masculine traits you have. Also, take into account your loyalty and reputation if you plan on marriage. Compare that to the US population of adult men. That is your level.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:57 AM
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By the definition you gave, it would be very widespread. If it is simply by someone they were the most attracted to, then of course they are settling. If they "dated" a 9, then every other "relationship" will be less than. My definition is that setting is getting significantly less, let's say -2 points of one's SMV. If someone gets with someone of equal status, it is NOT "setting." It is getting what you can afford. Just because someone rented a Ferrari for a day doesn't make them Ferrari worthy…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 10:02 AM
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Just because the @$$holes (the Tyrone and Pookie) are "single" does NOT mean they are celibate. If the @$$hole is Basic Bob, that is different. Pookies don't want a relationship. Pookies want to pook.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:53 AM
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To be fair, if she IS a virgin, as well as friendly and in decent physical shape, she IS in the top % of western females for MARRIAGE. Chad-Rones tend to not be "marriage material" anyway. The smart play would be to find a good ambitious man and build with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:40 AM
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Sure most heterosexual men want seggs. But the men will NOT get it easier or easily. The difference is that women can EASILY find a 9/10 Chad-Rone for seggs. Men can't. Even Chad-Rone must put in work, albeit easier than the rest of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:29 AM
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Even though it is not "intended" as an app, desperate, simpy, lonely, and the neckbeards; the Chad-Rones, Ray-Rays, and Pookies will slide into the DMs of 100's or 1000's of women HOPING one accepts. Those men following that e-girl twitch stremer are NOT interested in her gaming. If those insta girls accidentally shows her BF, watch (some) those men scurry away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:08 AM
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Especially for the under 30 crowd, stats and surveys, such as the Pew Research Center shows that in FACT, dating apps are indeed the number one way people meet (for dates). Even if you "think" they don't, they "do." Instagram is the largest dating "app." And "met online" is from dating apps. The main point is that the PHYSICAL ATTRACTION is the (main) target characteristic for online dating or dating apps. The infamous 6666 requirements stem from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:02 AM
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Dating apps are the NUMBER ONE way people meet. Second, the dating apps are mainly for PHYSICAL attraction. Women may not be "physically" attracted to them. Women have the attraction for loyalty and resources. Those two attractions are separate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:32 AM
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Even if the woman is a "career woman," the saying, "His money is OUR money, her money is HER money" rings true. Sure women do contribute. But compared to the man, the man contributes MORE.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:29 AM
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"Dating" doesn't mean crap. Marriage is the ultimate measuring stick. HOWEVER, for LONG TERM relationships, they seek the Basic Bob for PROVISION. Most men are NOT "seggually" attractive. Basic Bob IS STABILITY attractive. He is attractive for his loyalty and his re$ources.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:26 AM
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It has been updated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:59 AM
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It means she is looking for a Basic Bob after being with Chad-Rone. She would be making Bob do 10x the work for 1/10th the value. That IS her choice. It is HER body. HOWEVER, it is my choice to walk away. No insults, no guilt tripping. Just WALK AWAY.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:46 AM
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The "need to be right" is strong with this post. You are using the top 0.000000001% of EXCEPTIONAL people to make rules for the rest. Usually when talking about hypergamy, it's for 90%+ of people. You bring up the top echelon of people to represent the commoners. The exception does NOT make the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:23 PM
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It is a difficult feat to get into the top 1% of earnings. Unfortunately, it is NOT the "only" requirement. Another thing is that women have TWO KINDS of "attraction." They have the provider attraction, and then there is the lust attraction. For the desired "lust" attraction... Sure, you may be "muscular built." But, is it 6 pack abs OR is there some flab? Some NFL linemen / MLB big hitters have "muscle," but not the 6 pack. The man should have the 6 pack abs. Next is the infamous 6 feet require…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:13 AM
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It is mainly a meme. There are the REAL "Passport Bros." They plan to integrate into the new country's society. They earn US $$$ remotely. They, above all else, follow the UNBREAKABLE rule. Do NOT bring them back. Then there are the Passport Pookies. Pookies gonna pook. There really is NO NEED for a "passport sis." (in terms of intimate RELATIONSHIPS) A woman can EASILY trick in the US. If they want marriage, the west has the most left leaning men. The west also has the most yearly earning men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:45 AM
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(1) No one has to get married. But dates =\= commitment. (2) If a man has his life together, his 30s and 40s are peak $$$ years.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:55 PM
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Don't confuse "dating" with COMMITMENT to the RIGHT MAN. Woman at ANY AGE has an advantage in "dating." Even the old granny at 80 years old came still EASILY get "dates." Anyone can get "dates" if they are willing to "pay" a price. Man or woman. Dates don't mean $h1t. The QUALITY of said date(s) is not guaranteed. Neither is the wanted outcome. Commitment (aka, MARRIAGE) is the measured result. Married to the IDEAL man. Married to the IDEAL woman. Commitment also goes BOTH ways. Sure, a woman ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:02 PM
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The dating problems do not "largely" contribute to the mental health problems. Things like rent, low pay, lack of wage growth relative to inflation, access to AFFORDABLE health/mental care, crappy food, as well as negative attitudes towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:10 AM
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Sure, they may "date" them. But, are they married? Are they s3ggually attracted to each other? Dating is a low bar to cross. A neckbeard simp can "date" a 9/10 if he is willing to have his wallet drained. Chad-Rone will date down to have his nightly desires met.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:20 PM
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Just because a "Chad-Rone" is at the top, it does NOT mean he gets it for "free." Chad-Rone STILL has to put forth effort. He MUST close the deal. He MUST work for it. Chad-Rone MUST AVOID the "ick." Chad-Rone may not want to put in $100 worth into the pursuit. Sometimes, instead of the 7 and 8's, Chad-Rone will accept a quick dollar menu date with a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:06 PM
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She can STILL decrease in value but can still be a Chad-Rone splooge target as long as she is still attractive enough. The wall is a PROCESS. She doesn't need to wake up a 2. She can go from a 9 to a 7. If Chad-Rone's minimum SMV value is a 4, then she is still able to be ran through. She can BOTH hit the wall while still being a splooge target. The wall does NOT prevent nor does it say women can't engage in hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:43 AM
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For me, the "wall" is defined as, all else equal, the point in where a woman BEGINS to CONSISTENTLY decrease in terms of S3GGUAL market value because of aging. It does NOT mean personal value, career value, monetary value, etc. It is NOT a result. It is a PROCESS. A woman will not wake up overnight as a post wall "Karen." It does NOT mean that a woman turns into a bad person. Some women may reach the wall later. Some women at the wall may be more attractive than 20 y/o's. The wall can be delayed…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 06:17 AM
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Simps gonna simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 11:32 AM
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Define "equality" and differentiate it from "equal OPPORTUNITY" and "equal OUTCOME."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:59 AM
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If a man "pedestalizes" a woman, she'll grow resentful. If he treats her like a celebrity, she'll treat him like a fan. Yes, "TECHNICALLY," he won't be "replaced." He'll just be her simp ATM if he gives "TOO" much. He is the guy she calls when she needs a ride home at 6 in the morning from her male "friend's" hotel room after partying too hard at the club. I am NOT saying withhold. But men should not OVER give. Men should NOT be taken advantage of.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:51 PM
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With the rise of social media and online dating, a man is a DM away. When women leave, they usually have an orbiter on standby. Women tend to enter into new relationships immediately after a break up faster than her ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:46 PM
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The question isn't "Is it controlling," but, WHY are you even bothering to change her. If she says "I'm going clubbing," YOU need to say, "Go ahead. You are free to do that. But when you come back, I (or a commitment) will NOT be here when you return." You need to (a) leave her or (b) keep her in the fun zone. She is NOT ready for a serious relationship. If she wants to act single, that is okay. Keep her single. Let her do her. Let her live her life and worry about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:27 AM
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The difference between slipping and falling and the club example is PROBABILITY. The slipping and falling is about 0.0000001%. Being in the club environment has more REASONABLE PROBABILITY. Would you jump from an airplane if your parachute(s) had a 20% chance of NOT opening.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:37 AM
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It's not that is "will." It's that it "CAN." (when comparing the probabilities to other forms of entertainment). Sure, she isn't excited about Basic Bob, but the POSSIBILITY is still there once dr3gs, Chad-Rone, male "friends," and her single friends are factored in. It is about what CAN reasonably happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:18 AM
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In terms of s3ggual pursuit, the men at the bars and clubs tend to be high on that desire. Sure, he may be a good person, however, he is still a man who wants that ponanny. For their personality, yes, men and s3ggs workers are NOT "bad." They may be kind and caring. But I am not talking about "friendliness." I am talking about s3ggual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:02 AM
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Even if a man trusts the GF/wife/whatever, NO ONE is immune to temptation. This ESPECIALLY applies if she goes withOUT her partner. At the bars/clubs, she WILL be surrounded by men who are like flies and parasites. Those men are looking to smash. Those men will CONSTANTLY try to hit her up. Sure, most if them are average, but when several Chad-Rones make her moist, the temptation becomes great. Mix that in with dr3gs, a1c0hol, and other vices, that will mess up her logical thinking. Even if she …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 12:54 AM
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Where did I mention treating people poorly? A 7 man would be happy with a 7 female. They both get what they can afford.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:12 PM
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Of course he "wants" a 10. I "want" a new Lambo. BUT, men tend to be happy with what he can "afford." Not much of male 304flation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 10:49 PM
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The study states that "breadwinner" is defined as just the yearly earnings. Does it consider contributions to the FAMILY unit? Who CONTRIBUTES to the FAMILY/RELATIONSHIP more? Sure, they may earn equal in terms of income. But, is it "his money is OUR money. Her money is HER money?"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 08:51 AM
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Tell her she "CAN" "Do it all..." BUT NOT at the SAME time and she can't do "everything." If she pursues a career and be a "boss babe," that is less time for a family. She can't make a 24 hour day into a 25 hour day. If she wants marriage, she should become marriage material based on what the "MARKET" wants. I would tell her to be realistic, stay off dating sites, and that the insta-simps DM-ing pretty much want seggs. I would also tell her that just because a man wants seggs does NOT mean that …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 06:49 AM
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You self improve for YOURSELF. If you chase girls, you lose money. If you chase after success, women become drawn to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:29 AM
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Sure, there are SOME men who "trash" ph@t women. But there are men who point out that being ph@t is unhealthy. There are men who say that being ph@t lowers their SMV. But even so, the fact STILL REMAINS. The ph@t women can STILL GET MEN who will TRULY CARE about her. Men who TRULY desires her. The fat neckbeard can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 02:00 AM
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TRICK QUESTION. She values them both equally, but for different purposes. Women have the "lust" (guy 1) and stability (guy 2) criteria. The "lust" criteria makes a woman tingly and moist. "Stability" measures the man's provisioning and loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:53 AM
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For your fat guy example, if he doesn't take responsibility, society will make him accountable. Accountability means consequences. If the fat man doesn't take responsibility, society will let him know that he is a fat, slobby, and a piece of $h1t when he is CONSTANTLY rejected for dates. If a woman is ph@t, then it's "body positivity." ALL women are "10's." There will be someone to date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:42 AM
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Oh please list them AND DEFINE them. Also, list there applications in dating. My definition of lust (for FEMALES) when applied for relationships is what makes a man attractive. It includes his looks, appearance, status, competence, confidence, and personality. The "lust" is what turns a woman on S3GGUALLY. Women also have "bonus" points. Those can be positive or negative. Each woman is different in terms of bonus points. Then there is the stability score for females. This is what makes him "good…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 05:57 AM
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The red pill DOES talk about obesity. They encourage men to put down the controller, stop eating cheetos, stop drinking mountain dew, and get in shape. The obese MEN are told by both, men and women, that they are fat pieces of $h1t. If not told explicitly, the constant rejection would tell them. For women, the women will say, "everyone is a 10." It is f@t sh@m1ng. You're a queen. We are all 10's. If the man tries to tell a woman she is of a larger size, it's misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 08:30 AM
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He is your average office worker. His name is Carl. He sits in a cubicle. He is an average, 5/10. He earns a median income. He is stable. He drives a used Civic. He doesn't partake in clubs, dr3gs, bars, etc. When he gets off work, he plays a game of Scrabble, or is collecting stamps. He isn't great at basketball, but can play badminton. He also rides around the neighborhood on his (pedal) bike. He will be wearing the bike spandex. (edit) Carl is the real life version of a "Hal" from the show, "…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:25 AM
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Women have LUST criteria and the STABILITY criteria. The Indians and Chinese satisfies the second. They will make good providers. They will not make her moist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:11 AM
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It depends on what characteristics the deadbeat has. Deadbeat Ray-Ray and Pookie are different than deadbeat Basic Bob or Cubicle Carl.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:08 AM
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Whenever they "fall" for these "dregs," it is LUST. There is a very low probability of it lasting successfully. Even if they look like "dregs," the dregs could be displaying attractive masculine traits. Things like confidence, strong, toughness, power, dominance, smooth talking, aggression, stoicism, and/or self-assurance. For the r@ycist man, he is displaying power, dominance, strength, and aggression. Even though it is the bad kind, it's still power nonetheless. The self assurance and the IDGA…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 04:10 AM
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My point is that if a man cheats for seggs ONLY, compared to him cheating emotionally (as in committing) with a woman, the seggs cheating is easier to overcome. If a woman cheats for MONEY/ATTENTION ONLY with NO intimacy, compared to her cheating seggually, the money type is easier to overcome. Both types of cheating for either gender sucks. However, the comparison is the point. It's like comparing two types of poo. At the end, it's still poo. For the man cheating, it is LESS about the "attentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 09:14 AM
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That would be the most difficult to repair type of cheating. As mentioned in my final paragraph, her giving INTIMACY, and possibly ANOTHER MAN's CHILD UNKNOWINGLY in your example would be WAY PAST a random one nighter. Your example shows perfectly the AF/BB "troupe." Chad-Rone gets the cheeks. Basic Bob pays their bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 04:06 AM
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For cheating, men and women are DIFFERENT, therefore, different reasons for cheating. Usually, if a Basic Bob cheats, he does so because he is in a dead bedroom, duty seggs, infrequent sax, and or has to dance like a "good wittle monkey" for some lousy duty seggs. He is NOT looking to invest emotionally. If a woman is NOT being financially provided for and finds a Cubicle Carl to ATM drain and compliment fish, she may "cheat" because of that. If a woman does NOT receive affection and attention f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 02:27 AM
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For this question, "dating" will be defined as LONG TERM, SERIOUS, COMMITMENT. For SHORT term, men absolutely would date. But for marriage, cohabitation, common law, and/or kids... The man is usually NOT her first choice. He has no legal authority. He is a "dad" wothOUT authority to discipline the child. ESPECIALLY, if the kid is female, concerns arise. What if the man ACCIDENTALLY walks in inside the bathroom. It was an ACCIDENT. He is NOT her first priority He will be expected to provide for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 12:43 AM
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The question is will he MARRY her?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 12:27 AM
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It is NOT "settling" if a 6/10 man gets with a 6/10 woman. He is getting what he can afford
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 11:42 AM
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Men have the commitment material category AND the "fun" category. For commitment, sure looks matter, however, she doesn't need to be a supermodel. Men would like a hot woman, but a decent woman is still acceptable. Sure, men dream of a Ferrari but will be satisfied with a Toyota. If a man commits to a 6/10, average woman, he will NOT resent her. Compared him to a woman who might resent Basic Bob or Cubicle Carl for not being "Chad-Rone." The man will still protect, provide, and be intimate. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 01:29 AM
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Define "cheating" and apply it to the differences in men and women. Men and women are NOT "equal." Therefore, cheating is DIFFERENT for each gender. For the man, is the woman cheating with Chad-Rone for seggs ONLY? Is she cheating with Basic Bob and Cubicle Carl for money and attention (friendship type) ONLY? Is she cheating because the man won't give her attention? Is she draining Bob and Carl's ATM because her middle class man decided to work part time at McDonalds? For the woman, is the man c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:25 AM
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Depends on WHO you ask? The MAN got married out of desperation for the illusion of love. The wife got married for the $ecurity. She loves him like a "friend" it sounds like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 08:25 AM
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Not really. HOWEVER, it just gives you more room for error. Even the PERFECT 10/10 "Chad-Rone" can mess it up. But Chad-Rone's job is to NOT mess up. Chad-Rone is NOT "ick" immune. Basic Bob and Cubicle Carl STILL has to jump through hoops and monkey dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 11:14 PM
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ONLY the TOP% of men can do this. Second, the woman does NOT have to significantly "buck." All she has to do is look decent and be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 08:59 AM
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The problem with online dating and real world dating is that online dating BECOMES IRL dating. That and O.L.D. is the number one way people 18-30 meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 08:56 AM
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Sure, those men can date. Especially the older men. The older generation isn't as corrupted by online dating. BUT, what is the QUALITY of their relationship? Sure they can "date." But, does she respect him? Does she want him the MOST? Is he her TOP choice? Even IF the man is short and NOT "attractive," he CAN COMPENSATE in other areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 08:55 AM
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Nope. That is why men have TWO categories. Long term, but with your hypothetical, not happening. And two, for "fun." In your example, she falls into the second category.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 05:10 AM
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Those were respectful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:08 AM
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For LONG TERM relationships (marriage, cohabitation, and/or kids), the higher the number, the higher the CHANCE of a failed relationship. Usually, the high number-counts go for the TOP men. If Basic Bob or Cubicle Carl marries the high n-count woman, Bob or Carl is NOT her first choice in terms of intimate attraction. Basic Bob and Cubicle Carl will be the 8th, 9th or 10th option. Bob or Carl does NOT give her the "tingles." They will either be in a sexless (or "duty" sex) relationship. She will…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 09:07 AM
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That is half true. But you omit the crucial point. A man MUST build himself to be accepted. Sure a fat man IS more accepted ONLY IF he has his $hit together. The one who doesn't is a neckbeard.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 05:08 PM
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Sure they enjoy sex. But two points. One, it MUST be with the correct man. Second, sex to women is like cake to an athlete. Sex to men is like cake to a fat person. Sure both love it, but the athlete can easily do without it. The fat person constantly wants the "cake."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 12:00 PM
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Men tend to NOT be "risk adverse." Men ARE "adverse" IF the REWARD is NOT WORTH IT. Men who FAIL at creating businesses tend to repeatedly try and try again because the reward is worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 12:13 PM
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Men are born INTO the wall. If a man doesn't build himself up, he is invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 12:09 PM
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Is the wife in your example doing the OUTSIDE the house work? Even IF the man works 40, 50, even 80 hours a week, the man's "gender role" is the MANUAL LABOR. As in fixing the house, lifting heavy stuff, and lawncare. Would the wife in the example be willing to make the ULTIMATE SACRIFICE? As in the unfortunate event of danger, would she be on the FRONT LINES? -edit- Also, what percentage of the monthly expenses is from her salary? Is it 2/3's? Sure she can make $150,000 a year. It does NOT guar…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:45 PM
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If the man has to do "chores" and be a "good wittle boy," the wife has probably lost attraction. Sex should be MUTUAL. Let's say the man DOES the chores. There WILL be something else that happens. The goalposts keep moving. Even IF the man DOES the hoop jumping, the sex is DUTY, TRANSACTIONAL sex. I want to see the reaction if the man says "F*ck it, I QUIT my job. I'm applying at McDonalds."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 12:31 PM
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People can have unrealistic standards. BUT, they should shut the f*ck up and NOT complain if they get NOTHING or "used." Whether is for Chad-Rone's pump n dump or Twitch e-girl's wallet drain. One can want a Ferrari on a McDonald's part time burger flipper, minimum wage salary. HOWEVER, if they complain, they are just making noises of a stupid idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 07:18 PM
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"In your league" is who one can get to COMMIT and show in public. Sure, just because a Chad-Rone p-n-d'd a 6/10 does NOT make her a 10. Conversely, just because a 9/10 Twitch egirl 'dated' and drained a 4/10 neckbeard's wallet does NOT make the neckbeard a 9/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 07:15 PM
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There is NO REASON to make male AI boyfriends in the WEST. Western men are the MOST LIBERAL and FEMINIST in the world. But they don't give women the "tingles." Basic Bob, Cubicle Carl in her friend zone do NOT make women's panties wet. If women TRULY want that type of man, a popular, blue pill debate streamer called "Destiny" is now in the process of becoming single. But women are NOT throwing their panties at him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 04:09 AM
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HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO. Which gathering would you stay at longer? Let's say YOUR PERFECT MAN checks ALL the boxes. He invites you to a gathering of HIS invitees, acquaintances and/or friends Gathering A: You get there and there is 70 other men and NO women. Gathering B: You get there and there are 50 women and 20 men. Which gathering would you stay at longer?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 04:55 AM
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But, are BOTH PARTIES satisfied? Will those marriages be successful 5, 10, 20 years down the line?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:46 AM
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But in the west women are "I am independent and I don't need no man." The fact STILL REMAINS, even the CAREER WOMAN who has her OWN MONEY STILL wants a man making MORE.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:44 AM
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Hypergamy is UNDEFEATED. Even in "the West," women with money STILL want a man who earns MORE than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:04 PM
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The GOOD STRATEGY would lock down a man WHO IS AMBITIOUS during the MAN's 20's. After that, BUILD with the man. Second, put in the effort to KEEP HIM. Once you all are financially ready, have kids if that is in the plan. Once that man reaches his 30s and has his $h1t together, the competition for that man is FIERCE.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:07 AM
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Depends on who the guy is. Most of the Lonelyfans, s3ggs workers and str@ppers' clientele are MARRIED MEN. The HUSBAND is in a dead bedroom, infrequent s&x, and/or he has to be a "good wittle boy" for a SMALL CHANCE at s3gs. Think of it this way. Men love sex like how fat people love cake. Men without sex is like a starving person with scarce food resources. For women, sex is like cake is for athletes. Sure the athlete likes cake. HOWEVER, they are perfectly fine eating cake once a year. Women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:23 AM
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MOST relationships are "transactional" in some way. Either through money, energy, attention, and/or time. Even most married or LTR men have to dance like monkeys and be a "good little boy" for duty seggs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:58 AM
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Just because she is NOT the most desirable OVERALL, does NOT mean the husband will leave her. It is foolish to think oneself is the best of all time. There will ALWAYS be someone bigger, faster, hotter, richer, etc. Second, the husband (should) value her in terms of relationship standards AND intimately attractive. Men view women as "wife" material or a side piece. If she DOES cheat, those men would ONLY view her as a come dumpster. Those men do NOT want anything to do with"commitment" wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:15 AM
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Of course people "want" the best. I want a Ferrari. BUT, most average men KNOW their place in the dating world. Sure, men "want" that new 21 y/o "Ferrari." But men tend to KNOW what they can "afford."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:54 AM
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Yes, she can change. If she doesn't want sex anymore at anytime, she has that right. He declined the terms. He asked, she said no. He did NOT become "pushy." The man ALSO has the right to reject the offer. He also has the right to kick her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:15 PM
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If they use the money to look good argument, the rebuttal is that their $50 foundation ONLY NEEDS 2-3 DROPS from the bottle. The capacity is about 600 drops a bottle. It is 8.3 cents per drop. Then do that for the rest of their makeup kit. End the end, unless they have pounds of makeup on, it is maybe 2-5 dollars to "look good."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:37 AM
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For men, MOST MEN do NOT "ONLY" see them as sex objects. Besides, even so, aren't we in the "sexual liberation" and no s1oot shaming era? Isn't having "sexual freedom" supposed to "empower" women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:19 PM
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Other than the "situationship" with "Cubicle Carl" from work, this is spot on. If the wife has an affair from work, the top 5% rule still applies. Chad and Tyrone aren't limited to the streets. The workplace can have its own version of "Chad/Tyrone." The workplace Chad would be the head of the marketing department or the top tier sales earner making bank. Tyrone would be that new, 25 y/o hire who gig worked as a male fitness model. If Cubicle Carl wants office sex, sure he "can" get it. BUT, he …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:29 AM
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For LONG TERM, marriage, and/or cohabitation, men are aware of sexless marriages. With the rise of situationships, FWBs, etc, the traditional marriage is obsolete. Also, most married people are older people. Of course sex becomes a "chore" because MOST MEN in marriages, co-habitation, and/or LTRs are NOT his significant other's first (second, third, or fourth) choice. Cubicle Carl and Basic Bob does NOT give the intimate "tingles" of Chad, Tyrone, Ramone, Ray Ray and Pookie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 02:41 AM
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The problem is NOT the standards, but how ridiculous some standards can be. Sure, the guy can't be a bum. HOWEVER, some women define "bum" as earning LESS than $100,000 a year. It is even more delusional when an 0b3se woman with 5 kids and 5 different dads have "standards" for Tom Brady. Of course, if the woman's standards are REASONABLE, then yes, living alone is better than dating a fat loser neckbeard. However, if a woman is AVERAGE, then average Cubical Carl who makes a middle class income, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 04:11 AM
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ALL ELSE EQUAL, the 40 y/o is not "AS" beautiful compared to her 20 y/o self, ALL ELSE EQUAL. I am NOT saying she becomes a swamp creature. Some 40 y/o's can look good. BUT, compared to her 20 y/o self, ALL ELSE EQUAL, she is NOT. In her 20's, she could have been a 9. In her 40s, she could be a 7. Both are good ratings. Of course they can diet, exercise, and avoid drugs. But that could have been done in the 20's as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:52 AM
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Dating app data and Instagram are the PRIMARY ways people 18-29 meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:55 PM
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Because of this HYPER COMPETITIVE and HYPER HYPERGAMOUS dating market for men. The "top %" is LOCALIZED. A top % in LA or NY is DIFFERENT from some suburb in Wyoming.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 10:52 PM
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When you say "attraction," there is physical attraction and there is resource attraction. She is ONLY with them for what they PROVIDE. It is NOT LIMITED to only money. It can be energy, attention, and/or time as well. She does NOT "respect" them if she acts like that to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:34 AM
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The men NOT reaching their peaks is exactly why "career women" are single. "Peak" being defined as making 6+ figures (maybe more if he is in LA or NY). Average, middle class is NOT good enough. Top it off with the requirements. The woman's requirements raises while her value decreases. The men she wants has options. It's a double edged sword that she stabbed herself through her heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:06 AM
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Most "career women" TEND to prefer a man who is equal or above them in terms of income. Hypergamy is UNDEFEATED. Even IF money isn't a problem, it actually is. Do NOT listen to what people "say." Watch what they do. The career women tend to want to associate with and do upper income things. Even with bill splitting, if the man isn't at her level, the upper class bills will catch up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 03:40 PM
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As long as the man keeps in shape and has his $hit together, he reaches his peak in terms of protection and provision. A man fresh out of high school is a skinny-fat, broke man. By time he reaches his 30s, his finances have grown and his physique is coming along. It takes YEARS to get to peak finances, as well as the peak physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:40 AM
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Some ways may include talking with his and/or her social circle. Another way would be her mindset. If she has the "Men ain't sh1t" mentality, there is a chance that she has had bad experiences in the past. One or two signs may not indicate a questionable past. But as the years pass on, more and more signs may add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:12 PM
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He wouldn't. BUT, as the relationship progresses, the chances of him finding out would increase. Either that or he figures it out. This is NOT the "regular" man we are talking about. This is NOT "Basic Bob" or "Cubicle Carl." The CORRECT MAN is the TOP % man that the woman TRULY desires. The thing is that OTHER WOMEN ALSO desire him. It's the basic law of supply and demand. There are MORE women than there are of the CORRECT man. Also, the CORRECT MAN would (more than likely) be experienced with …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:59 PM
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For the CORRECT MAN, it shall be NOT greater than the shortest time one made the other guy wait. It shall ALSO be NOT LESS than what the other guy had to wait FOR. I'll give a mulligan or two, depending on the time interval. Example: The furthest a girl did was hold hands with a guy after a month. For the CORRECT man, she shall wait NO MORE than one month for at least hand holding. Ex. 2: A girl is a known 304. Because of that, if the CORRECT MAN has to jump through hoops, hurdles, and dance lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:27 PM
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1) Have the MALE family member vet as a potential LTR. There is a difference between "friend" and "Do I want THIS person f*cking my family member." 2) Obviously the male family member wouldn't vet "every" date. They would vet the SERIOUS suitors. We are talking about LONG TERM COMMITMENT for this topic of "satisfying relationship." We are vetting for INTIMATE relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:13 AM
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"ALL men (99%) want sex" is a TRUE statement. HOWEVER, "MOST men want sex AND a relationship with the woman."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:41 AM
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To "vet," have a MALE FAMILY MEMBER vet the man. Not your male friend(zoned), not your "single" friends, not the one friend in a crap, failed marriage. It MUST be a MALE FAMILY MEMBER.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:37 AM
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The point is that men don't want to wait 100 dates or whatever, while Chad, Tyrone, RayRay, Pookie, Fernando, Juan, Wang Lee, Ling Ting, and Cletus got sex after ordering off the McDonalds dollar menu. BUT, if she is responsible, then the wait is reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 06:35 AM
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Oh pah-lease. Even though TECHNICALLY they are not (or will not be) "dating" the 100 men, those men ARE USEFUL. They may be placed in the friend zone, the "settle" zone, and/or the simp zone. If only a small % of women did that, those terms would not be well known.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:55 AM
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The difference is that men have more realistic standards than women. Of course, if a 4 thinks she is a 9 has high standards, she will have 0 suiters. It's perfectly fine to want a 9 or 10. That is her choice. HOWEVER, the 9 and 10 man has the choice to say no. But if the 4/10 chose the equal smv men, then she would have the best outcome chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:51 AM
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What percentage of women is "a lot?" MANY men are either virgins or sexually inexperienced. The virgin men are stocking the shelves at Gamestop, they are sweeping the floors, driving the delivery vans, etc. But the problem is that those men are NPC ghosts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:17 AM
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Even IF "late bloomer" women exist in equal numbers, those women are most likely single by THEIR CHOICE. (which is fine. If they choose to be single, be single).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 01:03 AM
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There are NOT ENOUGH "late bloomer" women to go around. The single men VASTLY OUTNUMBER the single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 01:02 AM
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Define "higher quality woman." Men and women are DIFFERENT, therefore, different criteria for "value."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:55 AM
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Sure the average man likes sex. They LOVE it. HOWEVER, they are NOT the basement chain slave, back alley grapists, SA doers, sidewalk car call creepy boogeymen that women make them out to be. Most men are reasonable with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:44 AM
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When men look at the n-count, it is based on PROBABILITY. Sure the Chad or Tyrone could suck. BUT, compared to Basic Bob, with his basic job and basic skinny-fat look, who would be better? Basic Bob, Chad Chaddington with his chiseled face, 6 pack abs, $$$ house, $$$ cars, or Tyroneous Maximus with his impeccable swag and a 6 foot deek?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:22 PM
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The laws of averages will make that happen. If Warren Buffet joined this subreddit, we would be millionaires by data. 1/3 men are either virgins or hadn't had sex in the past year. That doesn't include the "duty sex," infrequent sex, or the man in an LTR having to do the monkey dance for some 5 minute low effort sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:47 PM
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Even if the hookupers were never in a relationship, the fact that sex happened means that the hookupee raises the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:32 PM
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To be "awesome at sex," ONLY a few men get the chance to get that sort of freaky, mandingo sex in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:57 PM
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For "hookups," "casual," and "FWBs," it's usually NOT Basic Bob as the ex. Only the top % of men get to have the hookups. The "mistake" and "failure" was that there was NO RELATIONSHIP to begin with. IF the girl doesn't have a scroll showing her exes, as long as she can count them on one hand, sure, Basic Bob would be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:56 PM
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The lonely women MIGHT BE lonely (BF/GF wise) because the man THEY want doesn't want them. The man would be a GOOD (not "nice") man as well. He might not be Chad Chaddington or Tyroneious Maximus. He would be at or a point above her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:23 AM
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First of all, when people talk about male, and in your example, female loneliness, they are talking about loneliness of INTIMACY and RELATIONSHIPS. An intimate relationship is different from a regular friendship. The examples you listed would be considered EXCEPTIONS. They are lonely because of external factors. For men, the number of lonely men (18-29) VASTLY outnumber the lonely females (18-29). I am using 18-29 because that is the age where its most prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:20 AM
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I never disagreed about the first point. The question is what does the simp get. A second question is. "Is the simp PHYSICALLY her dream man?" He can be the dream "provider," but not the dream man sexually. Most men are NOT the abeuseive, dungeon chaining, boogeyman you made them out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:23 PM
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The question was who will be successful, the pick me or the simp. You described what the simp's "WOMAN" would get. But what does the simp get? Would the woman TRULY "care"," TRULY "WANT" the simp? (The answer is the simp will be used for his money, energy, attention, and/or time).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:11 PM
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He is ONLY a "friend" for either his money, energy, attention, and/or time. Whenever that stops, the "friendship" is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:07 PM
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I never made any judgment about the "s1ots." My position is that there is NO double standard because men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 12:46 AM
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Men and women are NOT "equal." Equal as in BIOLOGICALLY the same. I am NOT advocating legal discrimination. Therefore, we canNOT use the same criteria to judge. NOT to be confused with discrimination. If a woman is more qualified in X job, then she should get X job.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 11:42 PM
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For the men talking about "unrealistic standards," its mainly on the 18-29 y/o bracket. It's because of online dating and Instagram. Women are CONSTANTLY having their DMs FILLED with men. They think that because a 9/10 man DMed her, she is a 10. The difficulty is separating LTR wants from a hookup. For the attractiveness, of course the woman would be more attractive in terms if beauty. Sure, the man isn't a complete uggo. But a man's "beauty" is lower priority compared to his success and physica…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 04:36 AM
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Even if they do aim at the 9 and 10's, the 4 man will be either ignored, reported, and/or have his wallet drained. Society will tell him REAL QUICK that he ain't $hite. Second, the "creepy 4 man" who SOLEY goes after 9/10's is a SMALL %. Men's preferences and ratings follow the BELL CURVE DISTRIBUTION. Sure, who wouldn't want to chase the "Ferrari 10." HOWEVER, most men have REALISTIC standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 04:17 AM
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For the man, if some delulu man is a 4 who thinks he is a 9, reality will smack his dumb4$$ in the face REAL QUICK. He will either be ignored OR be taken as a foodie call. He will die alone and/or have his wallet DRAINED.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 03:58 AM
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This question was not intended to persuade you to do outside chores. With the question of a female's role in the house, I am asking why no one is questioning the man's role outs the house in "traditional male" roles. Even IF the man gets back from even PHYSICAL work, he still gets it done. Yes, new cars are a scam. HOWEVER, when you bought the car, you (hopefully) made sure the car works properly, isn't jank, and the seller isn't trying to overcharge. Also, hopefully you didn't fall for the aggr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 05:43 AM
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For the "dangers," other than SA, MEN outnumber women in terms of victims of violent crime. If anything, the MEN should be more careful. (but yea, everyone should be vigilant)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 04:46 AM
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I'm NOT "trying to prove" anything. Its just that we ALWAYS talk about how the man needs to do more "traditionally female" house chores, while overlooking the "traditionally male" tasks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 04:43 AM
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Standard outside work. Lawn mowing, climbing the roof to clean the gutters, climbing the roof to shovel snow, hanging up Christmas lights on the roof, shoveling snow, trimming trees.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 04:41 AM
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For life risks, it would be if an armed robber broke into your home.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 04:36 AM
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Negotiation examples would be buying a car. The car salesman are sleazy, manipulative, greedy people. A success would be getting a RELIABLE car at a GOOD PRICE. If not, then the family is stuck with a money draining piece of junk. In car dependent America, this can NOT be messed up. Fights would be in case of burglars and such. When seconds count, the police are minutes away.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 04:34 AM
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For MEN, their standard is 6 feet, 6 inches, 6 figures, and 6 pack abs. THAT is MORE difficult to obtain compared to the female standard. The man MUST be in the TOP%. Its NOT enough just to be "not fat," he MUST be BUILT. For females, their standard is to not be f@丁. THAT is EASY to do. Especially in this "Every (female) is a 10" culture. Their "competition" is WEAK.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 03:39 AM
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1) One of the BEST answers is NOT the answer itself, rather HOW she responds, as well as NON-answers. 2) A man should spend a few years at least "vetting" her. The "vetting" doesn't have to be "interrogations." The nonverbal, indirect questions are best.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:14 AM
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The BEST way to ask this question is NOT directly, but INDIRECTLY. The man has to NOT "implicate" the prospective woman. He can bring it up during an episode of Maury or something. He can say "If paternity tests were mandated at birth, these shows would be cancelled." He must also say it in a friendly tone. In that example, the man did NOT directly accuse the woman. He must keep a friendly and kind demeanor.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:45 AM
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They want those men for MONEY ONLY. They TRULY aren't attracted to them in a sexual way. There is the guy for sex. And then there is Basic Betabux Bob.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:53 AM
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One MAJOR reason is 304flation. A LOT of women (18-30) have "inflated" ratings because of online dating. Tinder, Bumble, and Instagram helped cause this. At that age, they have difficulties determining who is TRULY interested in them. They get 10000s of matches within a few hours. Also, with "body positivity (women ONLY)," EVERY(woman) is a 10/10. Especially within the 18-30 range, they think they are 10s. And for "obtaining the dream person," go to r/dating_advice and everyday, there is a post …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:01 AM
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For the 9 and 10 BEAUTY standards, men and women are DIFFERENT. Men are judged MORE on protection and provision compared to looks. Sure he shouldn't be fat, but protection and provision are more heavily judged. Sometimes the man and woman knew each other before. An example would be a man who WAS a 6 AT THE TIME with another 6. The man worked on himself, built his career, and became an 8 while his 6 girlfriend BUILT with him. Nowadays, people don't want to "build" with each other. Also, there are…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 12:54 AM
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Number 4 is actually REASONABLE. A woman who is a 6 would have best results of going after other 6's (for commitment). I am NOT saying date a bum. I am saying that an average woman should find an average man. If she doesn't like the average man, she should self improve. If a fat lazy neckbeard has "standards" of dating only instagram models, he has that right. He will end up single. The fat, lazy neckbeard should date the female equivalent of a fat, lazy neckbeard for optimal results. If a 4 wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 03:47 PM
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For the "baby swaps," exceptions don't make the rules. The "need to be right" is STRONG. For paternity tests, it is about 1/3 chance of not being a father if the man suspects it. For baby swaps, the chances are about 1 out of 10,000. Even then, hospitals are continuing to improve with technology. Hospitals have or can get wrist tags, scanners, and such. If a baby is mixed, they can catch before the release. Yes swaps DO happen. But compared to paternity tests it is a SMALL %. The baby swap argum…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:45 AM
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My interpretation of "communities" and "groups" is that they are Publicly known (at least locally) A "friend group" is not a "community." publicly available (to MEN) Men can join. Not "hidden" Accepted by a majority of people Members conduct community activities IN PERSON For the "home" space, no one knows about that. Its just a friend group. Most "online" men spaces get infiltrated or demonized by women and simps. If other men don't know about a gathering on a group of 2-3 men, the group of 2-3…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:36 AM
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Good luck trying to create "male ONLY" (X) in 2023 without it being shutdown. Male-ONLY gym = shutdown. Male only bar = shutdown. Male only gaming store = shutdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:55 AM
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For the "stronger" argument... If a man is messing around with a bear and gets bit, he is a stupid idiot who got what he deserved. If a man messes with a bull and gets gored to unalived, its Darwin at work. ...If a weaker man is starting shit with a much bigger man for no reason and gets knocked out, the small man is an idiot. Its more of "accountability is kryptonite" if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 12:41 PM
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It would be women. They care the most. There are more men willing to take a more masculine woman more seriously compared to a woman taking a feminine man seriously. The top % of men are the 6666 MAN for a reason. No one is swiping for a feminist, in his feelings, leftist, ally, feminine man over the 6666 man for a serious relationship. The soft, small, feminine, ally man is NOT physically attractive. He is only useful for HER benefit. Are women REALLY excited, do women REALLY get the tingles fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 02:10 AM
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Most of the time the marriage FAILS. Either through divorce OR unhappiness (from EITHER party). A common form of failure is the man is sexless, "duty" sex, or has to be a good wittle boy for it. If not, the man usually earns money. He isn't "lazy." Sure he might not earn as much compared to the wife, BUT he still has more money compared to the average population. If the guy lacks money, he makes up for it in other areas. He may be 6 feet, good looking, and/or skilled in handyman tasks. He may be…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:50 AM
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Most western men (95%) are NOT the (truly) abusive boogeymen the west makes them out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:34 AM
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Men are "providers" no matter where he is. He is getting more value for the money in terms of quality. At least the foreign women will be more GRATEFUL and RESPECTFUL.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:42 PM
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Usually, western men tend to be BETTER in terms if care compared to local men. In those countries, native men, compared to western men, treat their women WORSE. Also, the PPB is still a foreigner in X country. The courts know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 11:41 PM
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Respect Intamcy Caring Chemistry Similar values Similar hobbies Similar plans for the future
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:53 PM
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Men tend to care less about a woman's career compared to women. He doesn't want to end up on r/deadbedrooms. As long as the woman isn't in deep debt, men are indifferent.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:51 PM
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The FATAL mistake your friends made was bringing them back. A common saying amongst the PPBs is to NEVER bring them back. The PPB will live there, assimilate there, and learn the language there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 04:05 PM
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It depends on which men you ask. Most of the 35+ y/o men will have Christian beliefs about it. For the younger man (TRP's target), they would use their services, but NOT entering into serious long term (other than FWB).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:38 AM
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Its their behavior that makes them low quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 12:57 PM
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Bring on the strawmans. I NEVER said I condone cheating. I said that male cheating is EASIER to overcome and workout if the man does NOT "love" the cheatee. Men should NOT cheat. HOWEVER, the fact still remains, as long as the man does NOT love the cheatee, there is greater PROBABILITY of saving the marriage. Its NOT 100%. It is a greater % CHANCE.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 02:57 AM
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1) The career women tend to seek equal or BETTER men in terms of career. If they TRULY wanted to be dominant, they should seek a man of lower income. For them, MIDDLE INCOME is not good. I am NOT talking about McDonalds salary. Just a basic income is NOT good enough. 2) Men and women "cheat" differently. Men seek sex. Women seek ATTENTION. Examples would be thirst traps. 3) For TRUE, one sided abuse makes sense. But for "abuse," is there proof? Also, is it one sided or mutual? WHY did the man hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:31 AM
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The main reasons why men don't want "career women" for LONG TERM, SERIOUS RELATIONSHIPS are Hypergamy. If she advances ahead of the man, there is high probability of her losing respect for him. His money is their money. Her money is HER money. Men go to work to provide a better life for his children AND wife. The woman provides a better life for herself and maybe her kids. The man is not as important. The man wants to be needed. She is so "i-n-d-e-p-e-n-d-e-n-t," but WHAT is she "independent" of…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 06:39 AM
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It's because of 304flation. For a 4 smv woman, even a 7 smv man will have a hard time having "success." With dating apps, the man MUST be in the top % for SUCCESS. What is "success?" I define it where BOTH the man and the woman are TRULY happy. Often times, a woman views the average man, even if the woman is BELOW average as a settleDOWN(grade). Even though they are in a relationship, the woman is NOT happy (even though he IS her level). She believes that because "everyone (ONLY women) is a 10/1…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:17 PM
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Men and women are NOT THE SAME. Therefore, DIFFERENT "standards." A man does NOT want a high n-count. A woman doesn't want a low $ count. Would she give a poor again McDonalds qualification man relationship grace?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 06:41 AM
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(for LONG TERM relationships and NO HOOKUPS) For the CORRECT MAN, the competition is more deceptive, conniving, and manipulative. With men, we KNOW what they do. They self improve. For women, amongst their "friends," they might be allies, but behind each other's back, they are deceiving and manipulative. Its like a crime show. Women may have OTHER people do her "bidding." She may turn to a male orbiter or an inbox simp to gain an advantage. But the female competition is RARE because the man MUST…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:15 AM
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The 304s usually THINK that they can leverage sex to get a RELATIONSHIP with the man they deem as PHYSICALLY attractive. Not "all" women love thugs. The Chad, Tyrone, Rayray, and Pookie tend to be the guys that give them the tingles. Those guys tend to be one night stand material. There is a reason "nice guys finish last." RARELY does Basic Bob or Nerdy Ned gets to engage in hookups. Escorts don't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:36 AM
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Men value loyalty. Women value resources. A man usually cheats because he is bored sexually. Usually because he is either in a dead bedroom, "duty" sex, or very infrequent sex. But the man STILL loves his wife and STILL PROTECTS and PROVIDES for the wife. If a shooter came and says choose one, the random 304 is gone. If a woman cheats, she is GONE. She is TIRED of the husband and is ready to leave. She PLANNED for that years ago. She just had to monkey branch before leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:06 AM
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Usually, the ONS man is a top 5% man. The women THINKS that the top % man equates sex with relational love. The top % man does NOT equate sex with love. The woman will be upset that Chad/Tyrone doesn't want a relationship with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:00 AM
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As long as the woman is NOT in debt and does NOT overspend, her "career" is not important Her money is HER MONEY. His money is THEIR money. A career woman can not provide the same way a man can. Hypergamy. The career women tend to expect a man to earn >= than her. If she gets promoted and goes from < salary to > salary, the relationship is a ticking time bomb.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:18 AM
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Doing what I do now. Marriage (ESPECIALLY for MEN) is a relic of the past. It is TOO RISKY for the investment. Even withOUT the 304flation epidemic (man has to put in 10x effort for 1/10 LTR quality partner), its NOT worth it. 50% divorce rate, and if not divorced, 50% unhappy marriage. I know that the "one" is a hay in the needle-stack. I would be happy with the "ones for NOW."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 02:25 PM
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And of those relationships where the man is earning <= his partner, after 3-5 years, are they... happy respectful of each other still together NOT "checked out" NOT "monkey branching" NOT in a dead bedroom, "duty sex," and/or not having to dance like a monkey for sex NOT planning to end the relationship because of "They are boring, but a nice person."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:46 AM
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The red pill PRIMARY PURPOSE is to tell the TRUTH about female nature. Its up to the man to decide what to do. If the man is an adult who can NOT make his own decisions, then he should buy an AI girlfriend and die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:24 AM
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It WAS on NEWLYWEDS. Lets wait 5-10 years. Also, men are more heavily judged on PROTECTION and PROVISION. Meaning, if Bob provides, she is happy with PROVISION. What about Bob in a few years? If he being unattractive leads to either a dead bedroom or "duty sex," is Bob happy? The wife would still be happy with Bob's resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:46 AM
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In addition to what the other person said, they (top % rich) were fat to survive famines.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 10:47 PM
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Because the (decent) lawyer KNOWS the system better than the "Reddit Law JDs." The lawyer KNOWS who the judges are, how they decide cases, the influence of evidence, and the intricacies of the law. With that, they can say "You have a less than 1% chance of a favorable outcome."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:49 PM
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At this point, you are grasping for the "exception to the rule." Just because a few men "feel" they "need" attention does not mean the rest of men will try to get attention. Even if men are NOT "hiding," by nature of being a man, they are a nonexistent NPC. Men don't go off of "feelings." "Feelings" change daily. Men go off of REALITY and FACTS. The fact is that even if men do not "feel" the lack of attention, they still are attention-less NPCs. Even if men are NOT "hiding," they still don't get…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 10:33 AM
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Like my cake example from previous posts... ...People like cake. A fat person wants cake daily. A gym person rarely eats cake. Does NOT mean they don't like cake. They may even like cake MORE. Its just for the gym person, cake is not a high priority. Same for men. They may like attention. But a LOT of men are NPCs, non existent, invisible people. Men are used to the lack of attention. Its not a high priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:20 AM
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But my original point is for ATTENTION (from men and/OR women). Second, I neither confirmed, denied, or quantified the women's happiness with sex calculations. I made no statement about a woman's sex enjoyment level. Just the frequency example. For the woman, its like the fat person and cake. But attention for the man is like cake to a gym goer. Sure the man likes attention, but men are used to being nonexistent, NPCs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:17 AM
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Men and women are DIFFERENT. People like cake and ice cream equally. A fat person would eat it with every meal. A gym person rarely eats cake and ice cream. Doesn't mean they don't like it. The gym person may even like cake and ice cream MORE. Sure women like sex, BUT, they aren't as "hungry" for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:42 AM
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MOST men can't get to the point of having a lot of relationship baggage. MOST men are struggling to GET dates, let alone relationships. If women want a guy with little to no relationship history, they are ABUNDANT. Besides, men do NOT get as attached compared to women. Women tend to bond and develop feelings for past partners. For a man, its like eating a burger. -edit- Even if a man DID have a significant "past," it PALES in comparison to a man's FUTURE baggage. Men's FUTURE >>> men's past. Sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 02:45 AM
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The question should be "What if men AND women abstained from GIVING ATTENTION." Men and women are DIFFERENT. Sex is to men as attention is to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:44 AM
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Men and women are NOT the same. Ergo, you can NOT compare them with the same standards. A woman's "baggage" is her past. A man's "baggage" is his FUTURE. If a man is a basement, neckbeard fry cook, he is the male version of the 304 who has 5 kids, 3 different baby dads, and views the "long term" guy as a "settleDOWN(grade)." To combat that, the man MUST be PRODUCTIVE. He must work hard for a CHANCE to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:36 AM
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1) In the discovery phase, the (decent) lawyer will go over the evidence. 2) The lawyer KNOWS the judges, other lawyers, the process, and intricacies of the law. 3) With #1 and #2 considered, they have an idea of the outcome BEFORE trial. Knowing that, if there is little to no chance, they will settle the case withOUT trial. These lawyers are NOT "reddit lawyers." The men who DO win already knew they had a good chance of winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:19 PM
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Hypergamy takes NO MERCY. It does NOT matter who you are. The man MUST be 6.5 feet tall (isn't JPT > 6 ft). The man MUST be SEVEN or EIGHT figures MINIMUM. (JPT comes from a richer than God family). And he must be single and monogamous. Those alone eliminates 99.99% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:15 PM
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When the "WEDDING" happens, its LESS about "God," but rather "showing off" (for MOST people). If they are TRUE believers, then they should take the vows under God seriously. But nowadays, just like CHRISTmas, weddings are commodified and capitalized. Marriage SHOULD be lifelong and taken seriously (religious or not). But with how the laws work and modern f-n ists, its outdated. People have to adapt to the times. HOWEVER, the OP argues that marriage is temporary. I respond with avoid LEGAL marria…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 11:46 PM
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To AVOID the lawyers and divorce courts. The divorce industry is a MONEY PIT. If the LTR is temporary, then the "ceremony" will be the "wedding" without the legal system f*cking you over when the LTR ends. Live SEPARATE, NO kids, and NO cohabitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 10:15 PM
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Most of them are. HOWEVER, they want love from the top % man. They ain't looking for love from Bob. Even the average and low rank women want love from the TOP % man. 304flation is an epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 01:27 PM
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It wouldn't work. Men are TOO "realistic" for that. For it to work, there MUST BE TANGIBLE, OBSERVABLE, REPETITIVE RESULTS. As in the man MUST receive REAL matches, likes, chats, and dates on Tinder, Bumble, Instagram, etc. "Real" as in NO catfish, NO bots, and NO str@ppers, lonely fan girls, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:25 AM
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Even if the bedroom is NOT dead, the sex is "duty" sex The man MUST dance like a monkey and clap his symbols to ASK for sex The man can only do X moves. (The woman may have been a freak for Chad/Tyrone, but for Bob, its starfish sex). The man has to wait for the right time The man is limited to a few times a month The man KNOWS his partner does NOT find him sexually attractive The wife "let herself go," but if the man decides to work less, not provide, runs away from danger, or lets himself go, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:15 AM
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Even if they do "prepare," prenups are TOILET PAPER. They regularly get thrown out, especially when children are included.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 02:07 AM
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If people PLAN on divorce, WHY the f*ck would they get married WITH the GOVERNMENT? They can just do a "religious ceremony." The government will just complicate things. If they plan on divorce, WHY have kids or share a house. A two parent household is ideal. They should just have a LONG TERM relationship. NO custody battle, NO losing everything, NO allhermoney, NO leech lawyers, NO false allegations, NO breakup war.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 02:04 AM
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The 20 y/o should ask their FATHER, BROTHER, or any other MALE FAMILY member for help "vetting" the men. Unlike male "friends," male FAMILY members won't tell you what she "wants" to hear. Male FAMILY members are not "waiting" for a chance. Male FAMILY members do not want sex from her. Thus, MALE FAMILY MEMBERS should be consulted with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:45 PM
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Because modern conservatives favor big corp. Look how the "trickle down" worked in Kansas during Brownback's reign.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 10:10 AM
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It shouldn't have to be "surrender freedoms" if people (mainly women) WERE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. "With great power comes great responsibility." Just because the "can" doesn't mean the "should."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 10:08 AM
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1) I can't speak for others' opinion. It's DIFFICULT. But NOT IMPOSSIBLE. It's difficult for a decent quality relationship. If he wants to have a Beta Bucks, then it's easier. 2) Because average men have it hard. Their f*ck up margin is low. Not all average men are "angels." BUT most average men WANT to have a healthy, committed relationship more than "Chad."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:00 PM
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1) I NEVER said men "can't" have relationships. I'm just questioning the QUALITY. It CAN happen to women. HOWEVER, the modern woman is in delulu mode. The man you described is a Chad/Tyrone. 304flation is an EPIDEMIC. The 4's think they are 9's. So they chase Chad/Tyrone and wonder why they are disappointed. People should date within their TRUE RANGE. 2) Yes. The QUALITY is important (at least for LONG TERM). 3) Women like money. Men like sex. Being within "range" helps. The man must vet to weed…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:54 AM
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I NEVER said anything about the "perfect" relationship. Its just making sure the man is NOT getting f*cked over. Nothing will be "perfect." But its NOT an A or B. There are levels. Also, one person can love while the other doesn't. 1) People can be lonely surrounded by a woman. The woman may see the man as an NPC. The man will "choose" anyone because he HOPES he gets "duty sex." The man has to dance like a monkey and clap his symbols for DUTY SEX. When that happens, the woman doesn't TRULY enjoy…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 11:18 PM
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1) Men YOU KNOW. 2) What is the QUALITY of said relationships? How long have they been in it? What are the ages (if they are 40+, they ESCAPED the delusion). Is the bedroom "alive." Was the man a settleDOWN(grade) option? Is it an AF/BB type relationship? 3) Did the men have to downgrade? 4) How much effort did the man need to get a relationship? 5) Was the effort in line with the TRUE smv value of their partner? Did the put in 2x work for 1/2 value? 6) How old are the parties involved? If they …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:17 PM
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When it comes to dating, the difference between ugly and below average does NOT MATTER. Women use the "Ricky Bobby Rule." "If you ain't first, you're LAST." (If you ain't top %, you're an NPC)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:08 PM
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Whoopdie-do. The % was ONLY 10%. It "seems" like a lot, BUT, 10% of minimum/low wage is STILL POVERTY. They STILL have the problems listed in my original post. Yaaayyyy. The minimum wage worker went from $7.25/hr to $7.97/hr. Or they went from $10 to $11. Even so, they raise the wage, but decrease weekly hours. Despite the "growth," the LOW WAGE workers are STILL LOW WAGE.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:59 PM
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1/3 men are either virgins or hasn't had sex in the past year. Men and women are DIFFERENT. Ergo, DIFFERENT STANDARDS. A woman has to remain "pure." A man has to "build" himself to the top %.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:52 PM
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The "jobs" are LOW wage, LOW benefits, LOW security, PART TIME, and LONG hours. The "good" jobs are HIGHLY competitive (1 job; hundreds or thousands of applicants). There is only ONE SPOT. Even if someone busts and grinds, its NOT guaranteed. Wages for WHO? The TOP % escaped with 2x what they had PREpandemic. The average and above average people got the shaft. The top % skews the wages.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:36 AM
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The TRUE definition of setting is getting someone significantly below one's TRUE smv. With the "body positivity" and "I'm a 10" movement, it has been HIJACKED to mean any man less that a 10 is a settlement. A 4 will think she deserves a 9 because "I'm a 10." In REALITY, most women are AVERAGE at best. If a TRULY average woman gets with an average man, they are getting what they can "afford."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 02:43 AM
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I'd say "Listening to SUCCESSFUL older women..." They should AVOID the ones who STILL are chasing and/or holding out for the top 5% man. They should AVOID the older lady who is at the club hoping the 666 man would choose ONLY HER. They should WATCH and do the OPPOSITE (of the failed older lady).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:46 AM
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For EXCLUSIVELY, unless the woman in the example is fine with the 6666 guy dating other women, he has OPTIONS. 95% of women wants that guy. It doesn't matter if she has irrationality high standards. It was just to give an example to you asking "such as." Its her choice to have those standards. Its a man's choice to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:34 AM
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6 feet 6 figures 6 pack 6 inches ONLY date her The problem is that the women would NOT qualify in the top % if women. They want the top % man, but they are average at best. The 37 y/o mom with 6 kids and 5 different baby daddies wants THAT man. Those women want "Ferrari" men, but are used, 300,000 mile cars themselves. It is NOT "settling" if they get a used, 300,000 mile man. They both get what they can "afford." If a neck beard man DEMANDED a 20 y/o Victoria Secret model, he would be told by m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:00 AM
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No one is saying you can't. No one is stopping you. All I am saying is that a man can LEAVE.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 12:05 AM
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The reason that the clubs DON'T filter the creeps is because of good 'ole American CAPITALISM. Those " desperate creeps" are the CASH COWS. Most women ain't spending one cent at the clubs. They get in free and get free drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 12:03 AM
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That can be done in an environment AWAY from the thirsty, desperate, creepy, sex crazed men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:39 PM
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The alcohol messes up decision making. There is a law that says drunks canNOT consent. Second, you put yourself in a HORRIBLE environment. If a man SAs or grapes you, then the man would have to help solve the problem. There are other ways to have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 10:54 PM
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Explain HOW nightclubs are "fun."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 10:52 PM
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But WHY the club? Its NOT going with friends part. What happens at the club?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 10:03 PM
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Its NOT the competition that is the problem. Let's say the simp spends $1000 on goods for a woman who doesn't like him. That $1000 is the NEW REQUIREMENT for the next guy. Hypergamy is undefeated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:32 AM
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I SPECIFICALLY said male FAMILY. They will bust most Chads/Tyrones in their tracks. Your male "friends" would tell you what you "want" to hear. Your male FAMILY will tell you what you NEED to hear. Date as normal. Once you find some men, have your family double check. Then you will have an answer about the attractiveness of the guys who TRULY want you for NOT just hookups. The males in your FAMILY are NOT interested in hookups with you (unless they are inbreeds).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 07:59 AM
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He is a comedian. He now also made books pandering to women at the expense of men. That is where the simp factor comes in. That mixed with his celebrity influence. He didn't get $400 million for NOT being popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 03:30 AM
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Bringing out the ad-homs I see. Most men do treat women respectful. Its just that they are NPCs, even to women below their level. Most men are used to being alone. A SH1T-TON of middle aged women use antidepressants compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 02:46 AM
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They are on Tinder desperate for Chad/Tyrone. They ain't desperate for a regular Joe Schmoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:50 AM
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An older woman can STILL get a man. BUT, the woman will have to be within her TRUE "budget."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:49 AM
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Would most of these men "commit?" Either that or have a man in question be judged by a MALE FAMILY MEMBER. They can sniff out Chads and Tyrones better if one is unsure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:34 PM
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The exception doesn't make the rule. The 9's and 10's tend to "weed out" the lower levels. Its like some neckbeard living with his mom thinking he is deserving of an instagram model.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:32 PM
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The QB might not be a bad guy. Even if the simp has more good qualities, the QB has more IMPORTANT qualities. She is "using" rather than "dating" the simp. Even if the simp has good qualities, the act of simping and being pedestalized is a complete turn off to most women. And if the QB "fucks his way" through school, it doesn't matter. Men and women are DIFFERENT. The QB would still be the strong, protector and provider. Women know the QB is fucking. Yet they tend to fawn over him. He would stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 10:23 PM
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You'd be surprised. Steve Harvey is called the "King of Simps." He is an old celebrity who made some of his $400,000,000 by simping and pandering to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 10:17 PM
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The sugar daddy is an agreed arrangement where the man gets the "sugar." The woman would at least act affectionate and intimate. The simp gets NOTHING. He doesn't even get splenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 10:15 PM
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If men stopped simping... Sure a woman WANTS a the hottest guy. Likewise, the man wants the hottest girl. The difference is that the man knows his price range. If men STOP SIMPING, then the woman would have to think twice about hookups with Chad/Tyrone. There would be no men to "bail her out" of either the pregnancy or the trauma of being pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 10:14 PM
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Yes simps have always existed. HOWEVER, with the rise in social media, the amount of simps have skyrocketed out of control.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 10:10 PM
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An example of a simp. A man buys some random girl (NOT his GF) an iPhone, Coach bag, Louis Vuitton bag, $300 wagyu steaks, $500 worth of makeup, and $1,000 in Twitch donations. He messages her good morning and good night without fail, EVERYday. All the while she is sleeping with the college QB. She also shows the QB the messages from the simp while the QB blow her back out. They both laugh at the pathetic simp. The girl does NOT give a fuck about the simp. She just wants the QB.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 10:10 PM
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An example of a simp. A simp does TOO MUCH. A man buys some random girl (NOT his GF) an iPhone, Coach bag, Louis Vuitton bag, $300 wagyu steaks, $500 worth of makeup, and $1,000 in Twitch donations. He messages her good morning and good night without fail, EVERYday. All the while she is sleeping with the college QB. She also shows the QB the messages from the simp while the QB blow her back out. They both laugh at the pathetic simp. The girl does NOT give a fuck about the simp. She just wants th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 10:08 PM
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With the "body positivity" movement (I'm a 10, you're a 10, she's a 10) and only swiping right for the top % of men, their actions say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 10:07 PM
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An example of a simp. A man buys some random girl (NOT his GF) an iPhone, Coach bag, Louis Vuitton bag, $300 wagyu steaks, $500 worth of makeup, and $1,000 in Twitch donations. He messages her good morning and good night without fail, EVERYday. All the while she is sleeping with the college QB. She also shows the QB the messages from the simp while the QB blow her back out. They both laugh at the pathetic simp. The girl does NOT give a fuck about the simp. She just wants the QB.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 10:06 PM
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She either settleDOWN(grades), or (more commonly) IGNORED the simp. And if the girl DOES enter a relationship, she truly is NOT attracted or interested in the simp himself. She just wants his resources. Once he dries up, he is tossed aside. Also, she would he dating the QB of the next team.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 10:04 PM
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Of course women are doing fine. They BENEFIT from simps. If it weren't for the simps, this sub would NOT exist. Most of the PPD problems (topics) are influenced by simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 07:30 PM
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They help cause women to overvalue themselves Women can have MULTIPLE kids with MULTIPLE dads knowing a "simp" will bail them out Simps are the main reason FOR THIS SUB's existence. Chad, N count, hypergamy, the wall, red pill, etc could be reduced if men stop simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 07:27 PM
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An example of a simp. A man buys some random girl (NOT his GF) an iPhone, Coach bag, Louis Vuitton bag, $300 wagyu steaks, $500 worth of makeup, and $1,000 in Twitch donations. He messages her good morning and good night without fail, EVERYday. All the while she is sleeping with the college QB. She also shows the QB the messages from the simp while the QB blow her back out. They both laugh at the pathetic simp. The girl does NOT give a fuck about the simp. She just wants the QB.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 07:23 PM
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1) Reddit is on the more "woke" side. 2) I've had responses removed before for using those terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 07:14 PM
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For point one, making men look bad IS a major problem. They will believe that the men that are within their CORRECT range are unworthy. Second point, men deciding NOT to peruse as much is a possible solution to deal with the simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 07:10 PM
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Of course. The problem is that the pool is becoming mora and more tainted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 07:05 PM
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https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hoeflation Flip 304 upside down. Certain sites do NOT like certain terms. Examples: 304 = hoe Grape = rape SA = sexual assault Self delete = suicide Perfect 10 = fat Unalive = murder/kill
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 05:31 PM
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Its not the lack of effort, but the smarts to know NOT to pay Ferrari prices for a wrecked 2000's Kia.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 05:26 PM
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An average plain Jane who is a 5 gets LOADS of DMs and attention from men. Many of them are simps who ONLY want to hookup. Jane may confuse the attention as genuine interest. It is NOT genuine. Jane will use that attention to believe that she is now a 9. She dismisses men who are 5's (who are within her CORRECT range).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 05:22 PM
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Its NOT the competition, but putting in 5x effort for things 1/5 of the quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 05:19 PM
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There is a difference between "nice" and "simping." The simp would pedestal a woman, lovebomb, and will be TOO attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 05:18 PM
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On Tinder, Insta, or anywhere. Its mainly the guys who are invisible. Just find the guy who is TOO OBSESSED with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 05:16 PM
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The simps help contribute to 304flation and 49ers (4's who think they are a 9). The average girl thinks she is a 9 or 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 05:13 PM
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The simps contribute to 304flation. The simps helped cause the problems that the red pill targets. Sure they don't "date" simps. They just have their smv artificially inflated. (49ers, a 4 who thinks she is a 9).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 05:11 PM
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The problem is that we have an EPIDEMIC of simps. A few here and there ain't going to do anything. The problem is that women are being fed false ego boosts. Example: Women receiving TONS of compliments and DMs from simps. What she might not realize is that the simps only want to smash.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 05:04 PM
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For the "construction" men, they probably DODGED the online dating debacle. Also, we do NOT know the amount of effort they had to put in to get into a relationship. Next, are their bedrooms "dead?" Fourth, do the men have to be good wittle boys and dance like a monkey for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 04:48 PM
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But if Chad/Tyrone, the top 5%, of men were being picky as stated, then the lower tier women would NOT be able to get with Chad/Tyrone. Currently, the status quo is that Chad/Tyrone doesn't mind lowering their standards for hookups. But this scenario would cause them to gain standards as well. Even if women gave up sex, the ATTENTION need would drastically decrease.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:53 PM
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It would because women would lose their army of simps. Women would also lose out on ATTENTION. Attention is like air to most women. Without all these simps giving money, attention, energy, and time to undeserving women, 304flation would correct itself real quick. Right now we have an epidemic of SIMPS giving women false attention. The reason for the checklist is BECAUSE OF THE 10,000s of SIMPS CLOGGING THE DMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:50 PM
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The use of shame and insults tells all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:46 PM
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Most men DO like women MORE than "just" sex. Its just that they are viewed as nonexistent, NPCs to most women of equal ACTUAL smv value (as in corrected for 304flation). Heck, men are even nonexistent to most women lower when 304flation adjusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:19 PM
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Because MEN tend to KNOW that "Stacy" ONLY wants them for their resources. Men tend to KNOW what they are getting into. And if they don't, they are called a stupid, dumbass SIMP. Whereas women get surprised that Chad ONLY saw them as a one nighter. And if she doesn't know what she is getting into, she has her friend and simp orbiter army to tell her what she WANTS to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:33 PM
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They tends to be LITTLE gray area. A man is either attractive or not. He may be attractive to 7% of females instead of 1-2% of females. Else, he is UGLY.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:25 PM
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With Tinder, Instagram, Tiktok, and Bumble, the women are just a swipe away. Those are the primary way people meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:15 PM
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My point is that income is NOT a primary determining factor for a man (as long as the woman doesn't have a crap ton of debt and isn't too horrible with money). Sure they may be majority higher income. BUT, is it HER money or did mommy and daddy give her money? And if she is not getting money from not herself, she has to have a career for the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:07 PM
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Those women will have to be happy as a side chick. Make friends with the rest of the girls in his harem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:12 PM
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Men tend to NOT give a shiz about a "career" woman. Men prefer fit, feminine, friendly, faithful, and young (20s) women. A king can turn a peasant into a queen. Queens can NOT do that. The man will bring a lesser social class woman to his class level if she fits his program.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:10 PM
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For point #1, most (95%) of men are already "dead" or nonexistent NPCs to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:33 PM
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I thought that too, BUT... I'm pretty sure most of SA is actually NOT about the seggs, BUT the "power and control." It might not be a LOT LESS, but still a reduction. It would reduce "loneliness" SA.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:31 PM
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The exception doesn't make the rule. You are trying to go for the small % exceptions. The OP is probably talking about heterosexual, straight situations. The LGBTQ, asexuals, and others are just fringe scenarios if one has a hellbent "need to be right."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:27 PM
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It would mean women would be FORCED to work "actual" jobs. No more lonely fans, no IG sponsorships, no YT channel money for "showing off." The SKILLED women would survive. The unskilled would sink. For the men, a reduction in simping. A reduction in liking photos for the sake of "hoping for some."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:24 PM
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Men are held accountable if they suck. Accountability implies consequences. If a fat man thinks he is a perfect 10, reality will show that guy that he is a dumbass. He will have NO MATCHES, and be called an ugly piece of shit. If a woman is fat and thinks she is a 10, there is some simp put there for her. If a man has an oopsie baby and doesn't want it, he is a deadbeat piece of shit. If a woman doesn't want it, she is an "empowered woman." If a man has no job or house, unless he is 6 feet tall,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:39 AM
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The problem is what does a girl REALLY want. What a girl wants can change daily. What a girl "says" she wants can be different from her actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:20 PM
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You can "love and like" your partner all you want, but it if they don't "love and like" you back, then its dead bedroom. SIMPS "love and like" twitch streamers, but they ain't "loved and liked" back.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:54 AM
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The REAL definition of "Beta Bux" is... A man who a woman settleDOWN(grades) with who meets these criteria: Is NOT who she finds physically attractive Is a person she does NOT respect Is seen as a "meal ticket" Will be dumped for the CHANCE of "better." Will ONLY (if lucky) get the cheeks for MAINTENANCE purposes only Views seggs as "transactional" with HIM The man HAS/HAD to jump through "hoops" to get any form of intimacy, no matter how small The man is putting in 10x more effort for 10x less …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 12:21 PM
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Its "craziness" because some women believe that they are "10s" because they can't differentiate between the Chads and the true men. The top % of men ONLY exist. The rest are "NPCs." Men TRY to tell them, but they have that "independent" mindset. The EASY SOLUTION is to find a MALE FAMILY MEMBER (NOT "friend") TO VET THE MAN.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:59 AM
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Yes, they can be attractive. BUT... Are men COMMITTING to them? Or do the men view her as a ball buster? Sure, they are a popular pr0n category BUT, men don't have a "list" of standards in terms of that type of activities. Just like women do NOT have standards of accepting simp money. All else equal, if a 20 something y:o maintains a healthy lifestyle, she would have 10-20 more years left of peak attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 03:58 AM
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The real question would be "Will you be SATISFIED with him." They would "marry" him, but still NOT be TRULY into him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:55 AM
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In the "west," the standards of women are UNREALISTIC. They TRULY want the 6 foot, 6 figure, etc man. Standards are fine and all, BUT the women who have those standards do NOT qualify for the top % man. The women ONLY want them for their wallet with nothing but "I am the table" to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:40 AM
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Hopefully the WIFE SEARCHING PPBs properly vet potential wives. In other countries, sure the PPBs are expected to provide. HOWEVER, the standards aren't as "inflated" for what they get. At least, of properly vetted, they will get a GRATEFUL, FAITHFUL, REALISTIC STANDARDS wife. That and they will be fit, and less likely to have a high body count. Sure they can find that in the US, HOWEVER, he would have to compete with a large group of men for a small group pf women. If a PPB has a wife who TRULY…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:16 AM
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Its mainly because of the "49ers." They are the 4's who believe they are a 9. It's common for women because of the "fat-shaming," and other "shame prevention." If a man tried that, we all know he is a fat and single. If a woman tried that, she still gets matches and attention. She FAILS to separate commitment from one nighters.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:03 AM
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But the average woman THINKS she is a 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:59 AM
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For the "alpha widow," she HAS/HAD new relationships. There is NOT MUCH rejection. She just views those men as "lesser."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:55 PM
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At least for the mom, that is different. She at least has a "legacy" in the form of children. She will NOT "die alone with the cats." This topic is more likely referring to the "reformed" ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:54 PM
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There is NO REJECTION in this scenario. If a man is rejected, then he won't suffer as being the settleDOWN(grade) man. (In terms of marriage/LONG term commitment). Rejection is bad. Being the bottom choice is WORSE. At least with rejection, the man does NOT have to go through the courts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:52 PM
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For the su1c1d3, the DIVORCE is a MAJOR factor. Not to say isolation causes it, but the divorce plays a HUGE ROLE. After a man loses his house, kids, savings, reputation, and almost everything, he loses the will to live. Of course he is technically an "isolated hermit." BUT, the "hermit isolation" is a symptom, NOT the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:14 AM
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How can "league" be defined with "304-flation" running rampant?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 02:21 PM
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Are we talking about the "proper definition" or how it is used in practice. There is the "book" use and the "street (real life)" usage. Whenever a girl calls someone "creepy," its "a feeling of unease" BECAUSE she believes the guy in question is inappropriate in a p3rv3rted way, trying dishonest means of s3xual satisfaction, or a possible gr4pist with sp1ked drinks and etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:03 AM
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No. But, the father should have the right to surrender the child under these conditions. He pays a fee similar to the abortion bill. He gives up ALL RIGHTS to the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:22 AM
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Is the need to be right so strong with you? To be convicted, PROOF is needed. Even if they don't go to jail, they could (A) done time already (why go back if they just finished time) or (B) got away with it or (C) not been caught. Being "creepy" could be a man going after sus-ag3d women. Just because he hasn't been caught or convicted does NOT mean he is NOT a p3d0. It just mean that the POSSIBILITY is there. Again, the keyword is "IMPLY." Its NOT an absolute 100% outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:09 AM
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I said IMPLY. Whenever someone hears "creepy," it could IMPLY being a p3d0. But being called a landwhale would not IMPLY p3d0s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:57 AM
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Men don't go out of their way to call out fat women IRL. Fat men are called creepy neckbeards. Being called a "landwhale" is ONLY an insult. Being called "creepy" could imply LEGAL issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:36 AM
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Are we talking COMMITMENT? (marriage)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:13 AM
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I don't think its a double standard because men and women are DIFFERENT. If a woman goes clubbing, she WILL be approached CONSTANTLY by men who are taller, richer, fitter, stronger, more attractive, younger, and better than you. They WILL offer her drinks, money, and better seggs than you. All it takes is a bad argument and a little beer for her to get with the Chads/Tyrone. If a MAN goes to a club, unless he is the top % Chad/Tyrone, he is just getting scammed by overpriced drinks and overprice…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:58 AM
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I define "commitment" as "marriage."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:37 PM
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There is short term and long term. Men would "commit" SHORT TERM for the cheeks. The question is of those relationships, why did it fail. She also said that she found the men attractive. But for sex, men do NOT need to find a woman attractive. He just won't show her in public as a sexual couple. If the woman is NOT attracted to a man she is in a relationship with, it's probably the money. The original post I replied to did NOT have an age specified. Why the hell else would she be with a man she …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:03 AM
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Men would stuck their meat in anything, even a wall. Did any of the men commit to you? Just like Insta models will accept money from any simp. Did she pick that simp? Women may be with Beta Brad NOT because of his looks, but for financial security.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:12 AM
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Some states have "defacto" divorce/marriage laws. Meaning that even LIVING together would count as marriage. Thus allowing for allhermoney, 50%, child support, and all of the risks of marriage and divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:09 AM
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Men don't have a "fantasy" about 304's becoming the single cat lady. What it IS is that the 304's who enter into their late 30's/early 40's will have a DECREASED chance of meeting the top % guy they could have gotten when they were younger. The 40 +/- y/o will have to compete with younger women who have less baggage and trauma for the top man. Yes, the older lady CAN get a man. But will she TRULY be happy? Will she view him as the "settleDOWN(grade)" man? If she chooses the downgrade, she WILL h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 12:49 PM
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The explanation is "hoeflation." With "Every WOMAN is a 10" being pushed around, we have "4's" thinking they deserve a "9" quality men. If a MAN thinks he is a 9 when he really is a 4, he learns VERY QUICKLY that he is a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 03:48 AM
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Unless you are the top 5-10% man, or a woman who can weed out the Chads/Tyrones, dating apps are junk. However, dating apps are the most common way to meet. That and it the average guy runs more risk of being viewed as a creep for approaching a woman. The risk is just RISEN, NOT "absolute."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 01:07 AM
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The "have more sex" could either mean a lot with their long term partner or the 304 version.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:52 AM
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Instagram, Tiktok, Twitch, and Youtube.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 01:27 AM
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Yes, they want male attention. BUT, from the males they deem "worthy." The LGBT women are an exception. They may get implants for other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 01:25 AM
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That study was done in 2017. Lets see TODAY'S results with Tinder, Bumble, Tiktok and online apps taking over.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:02 AM
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The point of this point is that money/income is NOT a major factor for most men. As long as the girl isn't TOO horrible at managing money, the money is NOT a factor. If the gas station girl is fit, feminine, friendly, and faithful, she is qualified.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 03:12 PM
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Nope. The average men would STILL be competing against the top %. The income of the female is a negligible concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 04:10 AM
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That is good to hear. HOWEVER, the exceptions do NOT make the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 08:53 AM
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The stepfather is a bad deal for men became they do NOT have the fatherly rights. That and if the mom leaves, the fatherly relationship is destroyed. Also, the man may have to deal with a bratty kid constantly saying "You're not my real father." If a woman settlesDOWN(grade), she views him as the best option AT THAT TIME. Does she TRULY love Brad or is she secretly wishing for Chad? Think of it like Rose and Jack from the Titanic. Even though Rose had grandkids, she was STILL madly in love with …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 12:54 AM
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Why did they survey 13 y/o's? They don't know what they are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:46 PM
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The reason for a MALE FAMILY MEMBER to "vet" a potential man IN PERSON is because a man will have high probabilities of spotting a "pump-n-dump" or "bum" man from a "good man." It has to be a MALE because men tend more straight-forward than women. It sounds sexist, but men aren't the ones saying "everyone is a 10." Men aren't promoting "Hot Girl Summers." The WORST advice about men is from the single ladies who have a hard time securing COMMITMENT. It has to be a FAMILY MEMBER because they are N…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:43 PM
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Assuming NO assaults, cheating, or becoming a "lazy bum..." Of what is left what % of the those divorces were because the wife either... Got bored of him Started to make MORE than him Left him for the CHANCE of better The man lost a high paying job, but was still able to provide an average living. They will now shop at Walmart/Target instead of Whole Foods. The man tried but in the end, their bedroom "died." She viewed the man as a settleDOWN(grade) man. She got bored and left.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:17 AM
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Because women do NOT "need" to travel to find a reasonable amount of "good men." They "can," but don't have to. "Good Men" are men who are Loyal Committed Average/Above average looking Decent, average/above average salary for a single man Not a bad person NOT the "Reddit 'nice guy.'" NOT a "doormat." These men can be found by having a MALE FAMILY MEMBER "vet" the potential men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:12 AM
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I think most RPers would agree with that definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 11:54 AM
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A "High Value Man" is HEAVILY PREFERRED by WOMEN in dating. A HVM has ALL of these traits. Makes $100,000 a year (or more depending on location) ($100,000 in Omaha >> $100,000 in Silicon Valley) Earned $100,000 CONSISTENTLY for 3-5 years. Most "athletes, rappers, and entertainers" are relevant for 1-2 years then disappear. The NFL means "Not for long." "Resume" "Linked-In" level. I should look at your resume and KNOW what you do. No "entrepreneur." That is too broad. A good example is "10 years …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 11:30 AM
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What do you define as a "high value woman?" Most RP men would be fine with treating the CORRECT woman well. Most RP men KNOW the classic example of the neckbeard "simping" over Twitch "e-girls."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 11:20 AM
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The recreational use ONLY gets "provision," which is money/resources, in the form of a gift/date, IF the man spent the money. After that, she gets ghosted once the man is done. Once that night is over, the provision is over. Whereas the wife continuously gets provision. She may continue to get it in the form of allhermoney and child support if the marriage ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:10 AM
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The main point is that men and women are different. That should be kept in mind whenever people attempt exact mirror comparisons. People should be careful when accounting for differences. This applies in general, not just to one topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:07 AM
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The wife material woman gets a man's protection and provision.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:00 AM
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For bedroom stuff, men are NOT that picky. People would be surprised about what holes a man will enter. If a man is NOT content with a less experienced woman, he has no problems with teaching and practicing to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:59 AM
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Because your question does NOT distinguish between WHICH definition of "desirable woman." One is desired for marriage. The other is ONLY desired for recreational use.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:55 AM
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For men, there are TWO types of "desirable" women. 1) "Recreational" use only 2) Wife material Most men want #2. ONLY the top 5-10% Chads can routinely get the first type.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:48 AM
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(1) Yes, a majority of men find the cornstars attractive and such. HOWEVER, most men know that they have NO SHOT at a relationship. Men KNOW that those ladies would pump and dump a man's wallet. We do NOT have 80% of men swiping right on 5% of women. Men are more realistic. (2) ONLY the 5% of men can attract the girls above. (3) Most men would be happy with an average woman. They would have no problems teaching her. They would have lower probabilities of being a male alpha widow.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:43 AM
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Other than coercion... I LEAVE the relationship. They view me as the settleDOWN(grade), 2nd (3rd, 4th...) best, participation, "beta bucks" man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:01 PM
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Not safe. The unwanted outcome for females would be grape/ SA. For MEN, the unwanted outcome would be being robbed/used as an ATM. Just AVOID bars, clubs, etc. Rarely any good comes from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 04:56 AM
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It all depends on what the other gender is looking for. It also depends on whether its short term or long term. For the 50 y/o MAN, as long as he kept in shape, he keeps improving his salary. Once a man reaches his 50's, he is at peak income. Especially if the man put effort into his career, investments, and such, he can be making close to 100K or more. The 6666's of a man will NOT change. Even in his 50s, a man can be 6 feet, 6 pack abs, 6 figs, and 6 inches. A man's "wall" is him not becoming …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:13 AM
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Yes, HOT MEN (NOT "smooth talker" Tyrone) might have less personality than the "average" man. HOWEVER, Chad STILL needs to have SOME game. Yes, the "game" threshold is lower compared to a MAN, but compared to even an AVERAGE female, Chad NEEDS to put more effort into a personality. But supermodel Chad HAS to work out. Supermodel Chad HAS to be physically active. Supermodel Chad HAS to diet. Those are things he can talk about. Even though supermodel Chad might not have a talkative personality, he…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:10 AM
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Its because women married a man who was NOT HER FIRST CHOICE. Women tend to be hypergamous as well. The wife probably had her "hot girl summer" "304 phase." She got with Chad and his crew. She settlesDOWN(grades) with Brad. Because Brad will NEVER measure up to the top %, she is NEVER fully satisfied with Brad. Women love to act like body count doesn't matter. But THIS is why men care so much about it for LONG TERM COMMITMENT.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:50 AM
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If that were true, then why do "top level career people" tend to be "lonely." Career people as in people working 80, 90, 100+ hours a week. Career people as in CEOs and executives.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:44 AM
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Because they don't need it. Men need game and such. Men gain and improve it naturally by talking and dating women. Men typically (99%) have to be the PRIMARY INITIATOR.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:41 AM
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Considering how hard it is for the AVERAGE guy to get casual sex, I'd consider him in the Chad/Tyrone category. This topic is mainly dealing with the AVERAGE JOE. But for that guy, he seems like a DV case waiting to happen. I wonder if the guys she was talking to were beta simps, Tinder Chads, or regular people. There is a difference between club Chads, Twitch simps, and normal talk with a variety of people. If it were Tinder Chads the majority of the time, then he should have just left.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:41 PM
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The effort I was referring to was SEX. Men who are the victims of SEXUAL cheating have a deeper wound. But for the woman, yes the WOMAN has to put in effort for COMMITMENT. And IF the man does fall in love with the mistress, it crosses the line of a random 304 hookup to a full blown relationship/commitment cheating. Once he does that, there is no going back. Since the hookup went to committed relationship, I'd say that hurts the most. It has INTIMATE AND EMOTIONAL cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:36 PM
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For the Brad marriage, it ASSUMES he gets sex. And if he DOES, is it "pity sex?" And IF they have kids, there is always the chance of her leaving Brad for better. Would Brad be HER romantic partner or just a roommate? If Brad is just an unwanted roommate, he DOES have the option of adoption and finding a MALE roommate. Assuming the wife isn't intimate, the MAN can fulfill the leftover roles of a wife. For the WOMAN's example, YES, it IS CORRECT. The woman WOULD LOSE. However, I already accounted…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:19 AM
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Unless the girl in question is UNCLEANED or OBESE, then its NOT a dealbreaker. A bit of chub is acceptable. Old ladies on Tinder STILL get their DMs flooded.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:03 AM
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What if the woman views the man a a settleDOWN(grade)? Does the man TRULY "win?" Lets say she had the most amazing sex, amazing dates, amazing chemistry with X guy. It does NOT work out. She marries Brad. She doesn't respect Brad compared to her ex. She is not satisfied with Brad. Does Brad "win?"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:59 AM
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For INTIMACY, all she has to do is "be there." She can LITERALLY go to most bars and ask for sex. She would get a LONG LINE. If an AVERAGE guy did that, he goes to JAIL. But for RELATIONSHIPS, I posted that the woman DOES lose more compared to the man. That IS correct. It IS unfair for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:44 AM
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Yes. Its the effort that counts. If a person who worked his tail off to get a house, car, job, and savings were to lose it all compared to a trust fund baby who was kicked out of the will. The trust fund baby NEVER worked for it, while the man worked for nothing. Its NOT about the item, BUT the devaluing of the effort. Its like why should people work when they can get a handout.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:39 AM
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In the post, I do NOT CONDONE cheating. The point is that since some people believe that men and women are the SAME, cheating is the SAME (same =/= fair) Men and women are DIFFERENT in terms of SMV. However, in terms of jobs, etc, they should be treated fairly for equal work, experience, qualifications, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:34 AM
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Its that it is UNFAIR that X man had to put 2x the effort compared to a guy who put in 0.5x effort. And in COMMITTED relationships as outlined, MONOGAMY IS expected. So YES, as long as they are committed, intimacy AND NON-intimacy is between the parties involved. If the woman wants to sleep around all power to her. Just LEAVE the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:31 AM
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Yes, it is NOT good for the victim. And yes, if they made a commitment, then they should honor it. However, I mentioned the above in the first few bullet points.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:27 AM
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No. Why would it be fair to make the "guy" work for it when she GAVE it away to the 1000s of men before. That and there is the issue of pair bonding and the alpha widow problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:18 AM
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If women recognized their TRUE SMV value, then the do NOT have to settleDOWN(grade). If a woman goes after Chad and his crew, she gets her back blown out and views that as being worthy of a top %. In reality, she is average at best. If a man were to be taken advantage of by having e-girls accept his donations on Twitch, he would think he is the top % of men. BOTH would be DELUSIONAL. Women tend to OVERVALUE themselves because they get FALSE attention on dating apps and Instagram. This leads to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 03:59 AM
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Because they have to COMPETE with the younger women for that man. In general, most of the men dating younger women with an age gap tend to be the top 10% of ALL men. In their early 20's, they weren't good enough, In their mid 20's, they were still being passed up, in their late 20's, early 30's, they were building up their careers and working on their body. They FINALLY get to their late 30s/ early 40s after being IGNORED and REJECTED. They FINALLY get to have "hot guy summer" and they are told …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 03:42 AM
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Past matters the MOST to a MAN. Future matters the MOST to a WOMAN. But, just because it matters the most to X does NOT mean it does NOT matter to Y. Its just a lesser degree. A woman with a high BC runs the risk of being an "alpha widow." The man COMMITTING to a high BC runs the risk of being the settleDOWN(grade) man. A man with a bad job, runs the risk of being a BUM. He won't be able to protect and provide. Sure, the (self proclaimed) career, big, bad, boss, babe, b1tch exists (the "career w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:17 PM
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The examples in this post present EQUALITY between the parties presented. But there is inequality in the SMV perceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 09:56 AM
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Even in MODERN SOCIETY, are women rushing to do the dangerous and/or dirty jobs? Is there a push for women trashpeople, roofers, oil rig workers, construction, plumbers, landscapers, road workers, lumberjacks, loggers, miners, and heavy machine workers? Most "modern women" are wanting the "CEO," "air conditioned," "cushy" jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 06:32 AM
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On shows like "Bear Grylls" and "Survivor," they placed men on an island and women on a different island. The men were doing just fine. The women couldn't do jack. All the women did was argue and bicker with each other. The women had to be rescued by the producers. That was the result for the "survival" shows. From that, if reproduction was solved (male babies magically appearing) men will survive without women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 03:07 PM
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Nice "strawmans." I NEVER mentioned anything about me personally. The Chris Brown example is simply an example against OP's statement of "Women rejecting "Chad" b/c of BC."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:21 AM
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I KNOW they are "toxic." My point is that women KNOW they are TOXIC, but would STILL chase "Chad/Tyrone." Drake and CB STILL have LOADS of passy FLOODING their DMs. Not all women are after them. Its just a case of "Exceptions for Chad; Rules for Beta Brad." If she finds the man to be "right," that man must try really hard to F-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:03 AM
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Men don't meet the "bar." HOWEVER, if a woman were to have her standards become a man's version of "checkmarks," she would NOT meet her own standards. If she turned into a man, she would be REJECTED by her female self. ex. A high BC woman with 4 baby daddies and overweight would be a 2/10 man. A 2/10 man would be a McDonalds part-time burger flipper who cries over everything. He would RUN from "danger" that isn't that dangerous. Her female self would REJECT her own self.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:00 AM
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The main point of difference is what we define as "broke." I am defining "broke" as working paycheck-to-paycheck with less than $500 in savings. For the"bum" part, they are just lazy with no ambition. They also have to be working minimum wage jobs with no effort put into their job. If he saved up $5-$10K, he can do him. But, for what I consider a broke bum, he doesn't meet that criteria. He would just be a fool WASTING money. But its his money. As long as they are consenting adults, he can live …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 01:38 PM
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"They're broke so they don't care about spending money..." WHAT money? That sentence IS CONTRADICTORY. If they are broke bums, how can they even afford to go? Ray-Ray and Brett with child support, government assistance, etc ain't going anywhere. If they have businesses, side-gigs, etc, they can just make more money. And those "reality" shows should just be taken with a grain of salt. Even if we accept reality TV, exceptions don't make the rule. The PPB's of (#1) should have vetted for scammers b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 01:27 PM
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There are two types of passport bros. 1 - The one who has his stuff together. He was mostly an NPC to women. He is stable, but knows that it is NOT worth getting married in the west. If he tries to date in the US, he will be seen as "beta bucks." 2 - The men who have cash to spend. They also have their stuff together. How the hell else can they take MONTH(s) off of work? That and the expenses as well. They are just there for sex. But lets DISPEL the myths. What is written below are the TRUTHS. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 12:56 PM
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ONLY the top 5-10% of men are able to get sidechicks. MOST men will be happy for average. EXCEPTIONS DO NOT MAKE THE RULES.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:04 AM
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If a man says he wants "Plain Jane," then he wants her. Men will tend to take her and be happy with her. With a man, he won't treat the "beta GIRL" as a settleDOWN(grade). Compared to "Beta Brad," "Beta Jane" will NOT be viewed as ONLY a quick pump. The man WILL be happy. With "Beta Brad," the chances are higher that she is "bored," wants her "Chad" back, and/or is ONLY using Brad as an ATM.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:02 AM
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Men typically do NOT give a $hit about how the character looks. Men aren't making a body positivity movement pretending neckbeards are 10's. Men do NOT care about how characters look. Men KNOW that there are attractive, average, and ugly men AND women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 06:30 AM
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Nice you to assume my relationship status. Also, since you are now using "shame, insult, guilt, need to be right," I'll assume you have no (good) counter arguments. If that were the case, why do you think the phrase "Nice guys finish last," "Alpha F's, Beta Bucks" are mainstream? How many times have women said "I want a nice guy with a great personality?" Even if women do NOT want Chad, its the problem that Chad gets the beat years and Beta Brad picks up the pieces.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 04:36 AM
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The problem is that BOTH MEN are probably top 5% Chads/Tyrones. Not all Chads/Tyrones are "bad." However, NONE of the men were "average." She is choosing between Chad OR Tyrone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 11:00 PM
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There are NONE. HOWEVER, MEN do NOT lie about wanting the "nice girl" version of beta Brad. We ALL know men want the fit woman. Men do NOT lie about what they want. We might think it is shallow. But at the end of the day, at least he was honest. And if he doesn't tell, a male family member can decode the man's intentions. If women were honest about TRULY wanting Chad/Tyrone and ONLY see Beta Brad as a settleDOWN(grade), that would solve a LOT of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 10:59 PM
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Does that matter? Most girls rate themselves 10/10 anyway. If you say Lizzo is unattractive, you are getting CANCELLED faster than an United Airlines flight.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 10:48 PM
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If a man is in doubt, the longer the relationship goes, the more he will have an idea of the count. Long as in waiting several years before even thinking about marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 02:40 PM
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The exceptions don't make the rules. Yes, health reasons exist, but there are lazy people who lack accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:30 PM
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I understand decades, BUT all that BEFORE 30, hell, BEFORE 20. If the medical issues aren't able to be addressed or prevented, that is understandable. As long as the weight gain is TRULY because of age rather than laziness and stuffing candy, that is acceptable. Once one has decades of life, the dating pool might as well be a dating pond. At that point, they should take whatever decent person they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:00 PM
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Men would be happier in an intimate/romantic relationship with a "lesser" woman compared to a woman with a lesser man. Sure women would take the lesser man, but as a "beta bucks." She would NOT respect him or feel any attraction. For the man, if the lady is ugly, he would say, "Her face might be ugly, but at least she has attractive whatever."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 12:55 PM
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As long as she isn't a whale, she meets the "fit" part. She can have a little bit of chub. Especially if it is in the correct places.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 12:52 PM
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I don't blame men for wanting traditionalism. The modernization of laws has NOT happened yet. The modern world is taking a big sh1t all over men. There disadvantages outweigh the benefits of a man preferring a modern woman compared to a traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 12:51 PM
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Mens standards for a woman is for her to be fit, feminine, friendly, and faithful. THATS IT. But modern women have became fat, masculine, combative, and unfaithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 12:09 PM
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The "average" woman on Kevin Samuel's views herself as a 10. Men tend to have REALISTIC standards. The problem with women's standards is that they FAIL TO MEET THOSE STANDARDS THEY DEMAND. Sure, men would want the model, but they would HAPPILY accept average. If a girl is not that attractive to a man, but decent, the man will think, "She might not be X, but at least Y is something she excels at." Whereas, the women who end up on KS DEMANDS the average guy meet her essay of requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 12:04 PM
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The count matters (in LONG TERM) relationships because If a lady has a history of putting out, but suddenly becomes a "born again virgin," the man would question it. The person gave Chad, Tyrone, Ray-Ray, and Pookie the PS5 for FREE, while Brad had to WAIT and pay FULL PRICE. The lady will have to have some good convincing skills to explain WHY Brad should wait while the undeserving men got it for free The "alpha widow" problem. Men do NOT want to be battling the exes. Brad does NOT want to comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 04:24 PM
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I would ask a person (not you), "What is your body count?" If one refuses an answer, it IS important enough to NOT answer. Imagine the REVERSE What if the man bought Chanel bags, vacations, cars for undeserving women while making the good woman wait? What if he made her eat off of the dollar menu of McDonalds on dates? What if the man ran away whenever problems arose? And the man's excuse is "I'm saving my financial self for marriage."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 04:12 PM
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YES. I know men who are good men. They are respectful to others, even when no woman is watching. If they were putting on the "nice guy" act, then, unless they are attracted to 70+ y/o men and women, they aren't "showing off" kindness to anyone. These men also have jobs and a residence. The problem is finding a DECENT partner who will TRULY care about them. Not someone who views him as a "beta bucks." I even try to set them up, but they are viewed as "boring" before they even had a 1st date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 09:09 AM
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The $500 is a ONE TIME COST. A console can last lets say 5 years before it becomes obsolete. That is $100 a year; $10 a month. Lets say they make the console last 10 years. That is $5 a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 08:08 AM
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Well then, for that guy who barely attracts people, he should either hit the gym, get a (bettrr) job, and improve social skills. If not, his league is the low tier female version of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:34 PM
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EVERY (decent) girl cares about money and protection. No matter WHERE you are. If you're a part-timer at McDonalds flipping burgers and will run away from problems, NO WOMAN wants you long term. A man does NOT care. All a man wants is someone who is GRATEFUL and LOYAL. Someone who TRULY cares about him. Someone who is TRULY attracted to him. For that person, he does NOT care about spoiling her with gifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 10:48 PM
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As long as the man has no kids, yes divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 09:27 AM
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A lot of time men DO find that kind of wife. But once the ring is on, the sex goes off. Besides, if no sex, then he can just find a man. Sex and intimacy is a major key in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 08:32 AM
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The man also has to work and raise kids as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 08:31 AM
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Because she has high probabilities of NOT getting screwed in court. Whereas a man who MEETS #4 has HIGH CHANCES of losing his kid. This saves the husband from getting VERY SCREWED in court. He still gets screwed, but not very screwed. But of no kid, then no cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 08:29 AM
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Again, you are attempting to make it personal by saying "you."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 08:27 AM
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As in he would lose out in divorce court in terms of custody and child support. And if he cheats but is still divorced anyway, these rules would make his cheating NOT RELEVANT to the case (assuming he meets ALL criteria).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:57 AM
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Because, she should DIVORCE the man. She has the advantages in court anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:53 AM
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One, this has NOTHING to do with anyone in particular. Ad hominems won't work here. Two, they SHOULD talk. But what happens if talks fall. I'm sure the undersexed husbands TRIED to talk, flirt, etc. Three, this would allow the husband to KEEP the family. He will drain himself on/in someone else. And rule IV, if the wife agrees to 50/50, NO CHEATING.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:46 AM
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The kids make divorce complicated. See #4.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:42 AM
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It IS, BUT if a man cheats it is justification for him to be TAKEN TO THE CLEANERS in divorce court. He WILL LOSE (almost) EVERYTHING. Bye-bye house, car, and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:34 AM
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If she is NOT getting sex, DIVORCE.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:32 AM
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The problem is CHILDREN. See rule #4. Women should NOT have to have sex if they don't want to. There is a word for that. What is that? Oh yeah, its grape. If NO CHILDREN, then NO CHEATING.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:29 AM
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Do we hear of sexless wives? There is HIGH PROBABILITY that a man would NOT reject sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:27 AM
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I don't make the rules. I don't decide. Usually, a man making minimum wage living in his mom's basement is a HUGE turn off for a woman. For a man, being either a single mom, fat, or old is a turnoff for men. Men would prefer a childless, fit, 20 y/o IF they could. Again, I don't make the rules. I don't decide. Its just how it is. If YOUR hypothetical single mom manager's traits aligns with the partner's, then good for them. But men typically are INDIFFERENT to a woman's career.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 05:08 AM
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There is no problem with 5's going after 10's for DATES. However, for RELATIONSHIPS, don't be surprised if the 10 wants NOTHING to do with that 5. Yes a 10 Chad/Tyrone WILL "date" a 5 for the P&D. A 10 woman will "date" a 5 for a free dinner. For that 5, don't complain about "men ain't sh*t" or "women are golddiggers" if they ONLY date but don't commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 05:01 AM
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With how the dating market's values are all messed up, its all the "investors" business. If there are 6's overvalued as 9's, then that creates a problem. A 5 foot, average looking, pudgy man who makes only $30k a year thinks he deserves an instagram model because HE says he is a 10. Now, what if 80% of the single men think like him?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 04:52 AM
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For the "high value" question, its what THEY value as HV. Women tend ti want the 666 man (6 figs, 6 pack abs, 6 feet, 6 inches). Men want "fit, feminine, friendly, faithful, free of a 304 past." Some women might TRY to pitch their "career" when it does NOT meet the men's "FFFFF" wants. For the McDonalds worker, it is usually assumed to be a MAN. Either way, they are BOTH free to swipe right. HOWEVER, if they complain about no one meeting their "expectations," then they will be viewed as an idiot…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 04:48 AM
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Exactly. If the man cannot fulfill his role of traditional protection and provision, then he doesn't (yet) meet the standards of a "traditional" woman. Either that or get a 1BR apartment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 04:41 AM
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Yes, that IS the extreme, BUT the MAN is the basement dwelling worker in the example.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 04:37 AM
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Yes, that is what I mean. If they don't want relationships, then they can live how they want. They can live their best (single) life!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 04:37 AM
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For the man, the MEDIAN is 0-1 matches. If he isn't in the top %, he is UGLY. There are NO "averages." He is either top% OR video game NPC. For the woman, it's probably too much to count. Even the 40 y/o, heavy set, single mom with 4.5 kids with 6 daddies gets FLOODED with DM's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 04:11 AM
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(1) EVERY girl "flirts" differently. There is NO sure fire way to tell. (2) Even ASKING is enough to show interest. Just by merely asking "Are you interested," before the "confession" is already confessing. If you ask about interests, then she already knows that you are interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 12:22 AM
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(UNLESS the girl makes ALL dates "start out as friends") "Friends First" is just another name for being the BACKUP PLAN, last resort, 7th, 8th, 100th choice, simp, settleDOWN(grade), etc. Is it fair that the "lets be friends" guy has to wait while the lady won't make Chad/Tyrone do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 12:18 AM
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Because her money is HER MONEY. His money is OUR money. If a woman truly loves a man, that man would have NO 2nd guesses about "spoiling" her. A man with a career lady will probably have NO access to her money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 12:39 PM
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I'd be unhappy too. (NOT ALL) Women are more fat, manly, and combative than before. They worked their ass off and get THAT.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 08:47 AM
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Maybe the man's PHYSICAL appearance is not a top qualifier. Is it a committed relationship OR casual? If it is committed, then his protection and provision is the more important trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 04:55 AM
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There is NOT. It seems like they would rather share a HVM than settle with their true level.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 08:47 AM
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What is wrong with a regular 9-5? No one is FORCING them into the sex work to miss rent. The job market is OPEN SEASON. They could EASILY get another job to pay bills. So they DO have a choice to pay bills, food, rent, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 02:02 AM
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If someone is a fat neckbeard, if they improve by losing weight, putting down a controller, pick up a barbell, get a better job, leave the basement, then they will gain SMV value. If a guy is average, he can build muscle and gain better work experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:00 AM
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Correct. Being a protector/provider is usually the standard. Why else is the 6 foot, muscular guy the sought after? That and if you are broke,!good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:57 AM
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