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DiscussionOnePotatoeChip/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:24 PM
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DiscussionOnePotatoeChip/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:02 AM
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Question For WomenOnePotatoeChip/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 02:45 PM
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DiscussionOnePotatoeChip/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:36 PM
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Question For WomenOnePotatoeChip/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:39 PM
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I don't think it's hatred. It's more along the lines of warriness. Because it can be sort of a raw deal for the dude. First off, a woman's child is always her first priority. This isn't a bad thing by any means, but it does mean that dates have to be scheduled around them and it can be a hassle. Secondly, if the woman lacks character, she might try to pass on some responsibility of her kid(s) onto her date. Whether that be buying them food or anything else. Sounds like a boogeyman, but it has ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 05:31 PM
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It's primarily envy talking. From the lens of some dudes, women have the ability to enter relationships far more often and far more easily. On the other hand, many men often strike out. They're envious of how a woman with traits similar to themselves, whether that be socially anxious, shy or whatever else, still face a somewhat lower barrier to entry to one of the more basic aspects of life. And the most frustrating thing for them is that there's not much that can be done about it. No amount of …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:19 PM
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Nah, I'm on her side on this one. Dude's fussing at her because of the price supposedly. Nothing within her control; she just works there. The situation gets started when he throws the drink at her - which is technically assault. She might've taken it a bit far with the hammer, but homeboy was definitely being a dickhead.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:15 PM
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I don't think that many dudes actually believe that life is all about attracting women and their attention. But we can't pretend that our society isn't hyper-fixated on love, romance and intimacy. And when you can't participate, there's something wrong with you according to just about every source it feels like.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:24 PM
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Ah, good ol' ARK. If it's not your full time job or you aren't in a super tribe, you're probably not going to get far in PVP from what I heard. Never bothered with it and stuck to PVE when I played.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 04:02 PM
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Definitely a great attitude, but I imagine the difference for men is that the resilience of that mindset is somewhat more harshly tested. At least, on the front end, I guess? On average, I think it's fair to say that women find it easier to actually acquire a date. Whether someone slides into your DMs, swipes or tries to chat you up out in the wild. We know male attention is almost an annoyance for many of you. Female attention can be pretty damn rare for a lot of us. So, in the face of more out…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 08:21 PM
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It's not the worst thing. But watching your peers pair off while you're watching from the sidelines can be upsetting, I imagine. We can't pretend we don't live a society that's hyperfixated on intimacy and romance. It's seen as a natural part of life, and if you can't participate, something must be wrong. According to almost everything around us. Women can suffer under this, too, but in a different way than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:31 PM
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Perfectly fine. I wouldn't be able to resist a few jokes, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:13 PM
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They don't perceive it to be nice and friendly, is the problem. Many, many dudes are desperately trying not to get hit with a 'sorry, I'm not interested'. Not being told 'no' is actually more important than getting a 'yes' in a lot of circumstances. Because a 'no' will seemingly reinforce every doubt you've got about yourself. So, that's where the YouTube videos come in. To learn how to attempt to be 'The Man Women Want'. No talking about your nerdy fascination with outer space or game lore or w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:06 PM
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Don't really have an issue with them if it's not predatory. Values and points of attraction can vary geographically. Some dude wanting to feel like he's enough for someone and changing locations in hopes of that isn't inherently terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 08:33 PM
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That seems to be the consensus. Told some of my coworkers that I have no social media whatsoever, and they looked at me as if I grew a second head. But what's wild is that we know social media can have a negative impact on mental health with so many people drawing comparisons between their lives and the lives of others. And yet we still expect or want potential partners to participate. Kinda crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 06:12 PM
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Fair enough. And to a point, I agree. We do need to keep in mind, though, that people often can develop those qualities when around people they're accustomed to. For example, I have a coworker who admitted that she'd been scared of me (I tend to keep to myself more often than not) to now calling me her personal cheerleader. Just out of curiosity, not a gotcha or anything, would you still have experienced attraction to your husband if he'd been that sort? If he'd slowly exhibited those traits ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:43 PM
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See, I feel as if it's not a complete one to one comparison. Flirting with and charming someone who you know loves you is a different beast to taking a shot in the dark with a potential partner. With your wife or girlfriend, you're likely aware of how they like to be spoken to and touched, how they think. With a new person who may or may not be leaving that door open, it's just a big question mark. Just because someone's bad at an interview, doesn't necessarily mean they'll be bad at the job onc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:12 PM
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I don't think women should date dudes they find absolutely hideous. That's a weird sentiment. However, if you have a self-diagnosed 'type' I don't think branching out would hurt. For instance, (handsome) white dudes are sort of premium from what I've heard. So maybe if you're used to going for the white boys, maybe give a hispanic guy a shot. Or an asian dude. Maybe if you're used to the party types, try a guy who's somewhat more quiet and introspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:31 PM
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You can't pay someone for validation and acceptance. It's sort of just hollow. And probably more depressing than anything else. There's no excuse for talk about coercion and stripping away rights, but I can't deny that shit can suck
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:15 PM
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It's sort of an excuse, but it's mainly just envy talk. High status men, beautiful women and, hell, even average women to some extent have a lower barrier to entry to love and relationships than average and below average dudes in the minds of a lot of guys here. It just kinda sucks to feel like you're at the bottom of the barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:01 PM
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I think this is major point that many folks are overlooking. I don't condone crazy in the slightest, regardless of how 'fun' they are (I definitely dodged a few bullets in my time), but a lady that makes the process of courtship easier for the man is going to have loads of success. She'll lay her cards on the table. There's no wondering if she's interested, no social dance of quiet expectation. Just one, big neon green light. Not playing this game of chase can be so refreshing for so many men, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:04 PM
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I think it's a consequence of the times. Many dudes hear about men being predatory and gross, about how they're the problem. So, when it comes time to date, they attempt to be as cordial and polite as possible. Not so much as a glance at her chest because he's not a Bad Man, and wants her to know that. He wants her to know that he sees her as a person and is definitely not thinking about how nice her hips are or whatever. The pendulum swings, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:10 PM
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Unpopular opinion for this sub? That Redpill men are somewhat envious of women. Maybe not even just Redpill men - possibly men in general. We want to be desired like we desire them, but we aren't, and that's what's created this imbalance that's birthed both simps and, by proxy, the Redpill itself. I've seen people and some experts talk about the effects of porn on the male mind. How it kills our drive to go out and find a mate. But isn't that sort of ideal? If our drive can easily be sated by it…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:13 PM
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Understandable. I will say use caution with this mindset, though. There may be other reasons why a good-looking, charming guy could be single. For example; I've been described as handsome and 'should not be having trouble with women'. But one of my problems is that I typically don't open my mouth unless prompted. Not that I'm shy, but I always assume that folks just want to mind their business and move on with their day. Just something to keep in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:48 AM
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Dunno about a deal breaker, but I've heard some ladies say that they're wary of the exceedingly charming handsome dudes. Because, if he's that good, it means that he's likely done this many times before. Not sure how true it is, but I'd just say be on your P's and Q's.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 11:28 PM
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I don't think most Redpill dudes think they're all the same, so much as they're looking at the statistical probability of woman x having similar standards to woman z. They're trying to chart a path that'll keep their heart from getting crushed, basically. Minimize rejections, cause it kinda sucks to feel as if you're not good enough. But some of them probably do believe that they're literally all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 11:36 PM
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Well, yeah, I agree with that. Once a relationship is established for the long-term, I think it's normal for the embers to cool and your feelings shift from tingling excitement to happy contentment. But at the start? If the adoration and effort is lopsided, someone's going to get burned. Best to cut and run with some dignity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:22 PM
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If he's unconcerned with being a quality partner, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 01:10 PM
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Yeah, that'll probably lead more to infidelity part of my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 12:28 PM
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The dead bedroom is more in line with the inverse, if a woman's feelings for her male partner are lukewarm. That's the 'vice versa' part of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 12:10 PM
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Of course it happens all the time. It's often a root cause of infidelity and dead bedrooms. I just thought we all wanted to avoid those sorts of occurrences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 08:57 AM
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No self-respecting woman should stay with a man that has lukewarm feelings for her and vice versa. If they're not matching your investment into the relationship, break it off quick and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 12:09 AM
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I agree, for the most part. But it's just that, with the slow decline of third spaces, OLD has so much room to dominate. Not to mention that the sting of rejection is numbed a hell of a lot through OLD. I suppose you have bars and clubs, but those appeal only to certain crowds and can have pretty bad outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 10:34 PM
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I'll take weird horse/anime girl over 'I like breweries' any day to the week, honestly. No hate at all; not yucking their yum, but I just don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 04:11 PM
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I don't agree with a lot of the language and rhetoric used with Redpill, but isn't just a tool employed to circumvent rejection and the pains of dating as much as possible for dudes? At least, what it's meant to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:07 PM
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My statement was just sort of birthed from what I heard and have been told, so it wouldn't surprise me if it was just a phenomenon here in the US. Still, glad you're doing well out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:35 PM
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My statement was just sort of birthed from what I've heard and been told, so it might very well be a cultural phenomenon here in the US. Still, glad you're doing well out here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:34 PM
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Wait, Indian women struggle in dating? That's unfortunate and strange to hear. I've found tons of them to be really sweet and cute. But, as a black dude, the black women struggling tracks from what I hear. If they're not being passed over by others, they're being done dirty by players. Black women have it hard, and it's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:16 PM
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I think it's fine if they want to participate with the perspective of being on the sidelines, but it's imperative that they get a grip on their emotions. Else it's just directionless anger that prevents them from being able to discuss with any productivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:07 PM
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I understand the sentiment. And a lot of us are mentally moving to the point of 'I don't lose if I don't play'. But when you get to that point, you also have to make a mental move to stymie that bitterness or you'll just sort of eat yourself alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 03:39 PM
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I had no clue drugs were such a core part of so many people's idea of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:36 PM
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House of Balloons Weeknd was pretty damn good, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:52 PM
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I agree. I can't dictate what someone does with their body. But I don't have to associate with them and certainly don't have to be in a relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:44 AM
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I certainly don't. I don't have much respect for people (men or women) who can just toss aside the love of their partner because someone whispered in their ear. The guilt would eat me alive. But I guess that's because I've seen what infidelity can do to people. Shit's just heartbreaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 10:41 PM
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I don't agree with staying in a poor relationship for any reason, but I can understand the thought process. It's not even about laziness, more often than not. Honestly, I'd go closer to the fact that the process hurts for a lot of dudes. For a well-meaning guy, facing a string of rejections can be a serious punch to the gut and blow to the ego. You can play it off, acknowledge a woman's right to reject you, try to reframe and everything else. At the end of the day, it still hurts. Some even star…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:20 PM
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I'd go closer to saying it's driven through fear more than anger. Fear of inadequacy and the repercussions of said inadequacies. Many men just hate the process of dating, and how being not-chosen can feel similar to a Polar Bear pushing its paw through your chest for a lot of them. Anger seems to be more of a byproduct.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:22 AM
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That's the rub for a lot of dudes. Patience and persistence in the face of pain. They're imagining it. Going out and chatting up woman after woman, trying to forge a connection. Just how many times will I be shot down? How long do I trudge through this while pretending it doesn't hurt and that I'm not frustrated? That's the part I feel for them about. It's gotta be like sticking your hand in a box full of needles, praying something's at the bottom that's worth all of this. And I disagree with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:50 PM
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It exists, just to a lesser extent. I was reading in a plus size subreddit the other day out of curiosity, and there was a thread specifically about going outside of the US in search of men who'd make them feel desired. It received pretty positive feedback and even several suggestions. I didn't comment, but it sounded a lot like Passport Bros wrapped in nicer packaging. After all, that's what they want as well, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:54 AM
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The opposite side of the coin is that the dudes are usually also too hard on themselves. That's why this process is tiring for a lot of us and many just want neon-green Go signs. Most interactions between men and women go perfectly fine on the surface. What we don't see is the guys talking themselves into just going up to a lady. Him possibly beating himself up as he smiles and wishes them a good evening before slinking back to some corner where he'll lick his wounds. We can say whatever we what…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:26 PM
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I think it's a portion of the problem, yeah. It makes sense, right? People are getting hurt, seeing others getting hurt and it wears on them mentally. Women, I'm certain, are tired of being manipulated, berated and lied to. Many of us dudes are tired of being on the outside and looking in from behind what seems to be a locked door. So, what do you do? You try to find a way to dampen the pain. Men are all patriarchy-touting monsters. Women are all hypergamous, sanctimonious tramps. Always helps t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:25 PM
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You're making plenty of sense. Desirable ambition in a guy is relative the stage of life you and he are occupying. But what's an ambitious lifestyle for you? More trips and novel experiences? Something closer to home like improving and forming new relationships? Bit of both?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:55 PM
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How far do those goals need to take them for you? Does it not matter so long as they seek improvement somewhere, somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:29 PM
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Generally speaking, more towards the higher position chasing which I feel like may tie in more to education chasing as well. Someone after the prestige of a position or just general accomplishment, so to say. Wage chasing is pretty common, I think. But that's fair - someone who doesn't want to do anything with their life might prove difficult to actually share a life with. No one should have to lug around dead weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:07 PM
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I feel like those aren't terrible asks, although the bachelor's might be the biggest stumbling block. Many men are turning to trade jobs that provide training and experience sooner than college programs. EMTs, iirc, don't require college education. I think it varies for Firefighters and other service positions. These people are definitely passionate and help make the world better. I guess it just boils down to how important college is to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 10:21 PM
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I've seen it mentioned and appear on more than a few personal lists. Of course, I can't extrapolate that to every woman, but it did make me wonder how much of an issue it really was.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:06 PM
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I agree to some extent. I've been approached a handful of times, so it's not that women absolutely will not take initiative. But there are far more women who'll fancy a dude and simply not say anything. Many don't have that sort of gumption (understandable; to initiate is to somewhat render yourself vulnerable and no one likes that) or simply believe it's not their 'place' to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:06 PM
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Disagree. Independence is a cornerstone of civilized society. A child won't suck from its mother's tit forever. Eventually, you need to become a functioning entity outside of your parents. To prevent that process is stunting and stifling. In fact, if you're an American, I'm pretty positive that there was a war that sort of shared that sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 11:32 PM
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I mean, sure, in the scope of creating a civilized society. We should rely on one another. But where does that reliance come from? From a place of mutual respect and contentment? Or from the act of preventing independence?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:11 PM
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Bit of an exaggeration, I feel like. Personally, I think the rift's just due to the fact that times have changed. Women have rightfully moved on from needing to rely on men. We just haven't done the same. Women still occupy the same frame of importance to us that they've held since, like, forever. Now we've just sprinkled some basic human respect onto the relationship. This has sort of created this weird imbalance. One that I can't imagine being fixed until we sort of reevaluate the male identit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:37 PM
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I'm not really Redpill, but I'm not so certain that it's that deep. It can dovetail back into Patriarchy and traditionalism, but I think it's just as likely to just reinforce modern hedonism. After all, many who claim RP are after the status of being a Lady's Man. They want to be chosen by women. Well, the hot, young women with perky chests. And Redpill is meant to be the almanac on how to have that come to pass, from what I gather. Forcing women into poorly veiled subjugation sounds kinda count…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:13 PM
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Correct. At the time, I wasn't really hanging out or consistently communicating with others (aside from family) despite getting along well. If I was hanging out with someone, it was with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 09:26 PM
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I did. She had been a coworker at the time, and a group chat was made between a few of us in the department. I got along well and easily with them, cracking jokes and all that. We weren't really friends, but I had no issue with conversation. Banter is even more simple. Eventually, she breaks off from the group chat and texts me separately about random things. We talk for a while before she suggests hooking up. This goes on for about a month or two, after which she asks me to delete Tinder and to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 08:57 PM
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I guess you could say it would be an incompatibility if someone viewed their partner having time to themselves as being neglected. But, in my view, relationships are built on compromise. When my girlfriend told me she felt I didn't contact her enough, I didn't necessarily slam the proverbial door in her face and tell her to leave me alone. I reflected and made adjustments to get in contact with her more often; after all, I still enjoyed our time together so it wasn't some huge burden. The fact t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 08:41 PM
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I mean, it's not really ambivalence. I can enjoy the company of others, and I do. My own company just takes priority. But, even so, I feel like there's a stark difference between platonic friendships and romantic relationships here. Sure, there's the whole getting laid aspect and that's always a plus, but there's also this deeper, intrinsic closeness and understanding (or there should be) that isn't really afforded to most friendships that I think a lot of people like me still value.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 01:32 PM
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Well, it's not like I can't stand being near other human-beings. Prefering your own company doesn't necessitate that you hate all other company. I've had friends (never a whole lot, but still). My coworkers say I'm easy to get along with. I can function properly at get-togethers and social events; done so plenty of times before. It's just that me time has higher priority than that of your average joe, I guess. And my hope is for a LTR where that's acknowledged and respected. Where it's understoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:48 AM
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I wouldn't say the primary motivator, but they're not far from the top. A lot of the male identity is tied up in women, despite the opposite not necessarily being true, and the fact causes us some frustrations. Many guys predicate their self-worth on the approval or attraction of women and will alter their lives and lifestyle to that end. I don't think that sort of thought process is as common in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 01:27 AM
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I don't agree. You need a 'why' as to their friendless-ness. Some people are terrible and naturally repel others. Others just prefer their own company, but can still function properly in relationships. I feel like it's a bit unfair to cast those with few or no friends as a whole as a red flag. In my case, even when I had a girlfriend, she wasn't the center of my world. When she wasn't around, I just defaulted to my usual solo activities. There was even the issue where she felt I wasn't contactin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:20 PM
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Bit of both. Always try to ensure our happiness, but understand that my effort could mean absolutely nothing in many scenarios. I suppose it's the same for women. Only difference being the span of time between our next respective relationship, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 12:18 AM
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I want to be more social, but I don't know how. Or maybe that it's that I should start taking myself out. Going to see a movie alone, dining out alone, reading at the bookstore alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:41 PM
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Hard agree with this. So much of male identity and self esteem is tied to women, and that's a foundation built on sand. Especially when the reverse isn't true. It's probably why rejections can be so crushing to us. Not only do we receive them more often, but it also just means more. And it's so damn self-destructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:42 PM
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Not sure about shy. But an introverted guy probably doesn't feel 'doomed' necessarily. Especially if you're the sort that appreciates their solitude. That shit can be addicting, when everything is on your terms. Bonus if you're unconcerned about the opinions of other men, and have no issue taking care of your own needs. A partner could even constitute a threat to your way of life, so some may not even be motivated to find a woman. That said, most introverts aren't incapable of social interaction…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:39 PM
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As wonderful as a hand in a wasp's nest, I imagine. Still, I don't know if I would want my kid to be raised like I was, where conforming and being molded by your peers was seen as detrimental. Might strengthen your sense of individualism, but how well does that help you connect and socialize later on in life when what was perhaps a huge part of socialization is just missing? I guess it's something of a tightrope to walk, and you just hope to do right by the kid, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 05:39 PM
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Oh, yeah, neuroticism is a huge factor in this. And I'm pretty damn neurotic myself. Always trying to predict and manage outcomes that will leave as little negative impact as possible. That and my strange sense of pride were probably the primary reasons I hadn't been with a girl until I was like... 27? There was always something keeping me from it back then. Nah, I won't be good enough until I get a good job. Then it was a better car. Then a place of my own. It wasn't until I threw caution to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:36 PM
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Haha, no kids for me yet, but maybe someday. It's just that I was raised in a sort of environment (not necessarily overbearing; they trusted me to make smart choices) where not following the crowd was pretty much the definition of character. But now I just sort of wonder what would life be like if I did just go with the flow. Sure, I can make decisions without being influenced by the opinions of others, but what was the cost of that? And was a trade-off between those two ideas even necessary? St…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:23 PM
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Parties themselves, not so much. It's just that I'm not sure most parties are the sort where teenagers and young adults eat cheese and grapes while appreciating fine art. Drugs and alcohol are pretty commonplace from what I've been told, and I wonder how best it is for someone who knows 'this might not be the best idea' to navigate the situation. Bullying probably isn't a factor. At least, as much. Just the expectation of 'I should be doing this because everyone is'. I suppose that's not peer pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:05 PM
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I'm sure it just sounds fun to some. But I imagine more do it simply because their peers are participating. And if their peers are participating, then they also need to be participating or else they'll be left out or regarded as uncool. Which can be a social death sentence in those formative years. I don't think it's got so much to do with bullying (although I'm sure there's some) so much as the expectation is creating the pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:58 PM
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I very much agree with this. A lot of male identity is wrapped up in women while the reverse isn't necessarily true, and that's what breeds a lot of frustration for some guys. Not the biggest fan of this analogy as it sort of removes the element of humanity, but we're sort of leisure items for shoppers. There's no real push for the shopper to purchase, as they're content without it. But we're kind of cool to have sometimes. So, it's no real surprise when many just get left on the shelf. If I cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:33 AM
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The rub being that not receiving a right swipe stings a lot less for many than an outright rejection in person. I think, anyway. It's far more impersonal. You can only make yourself so much of a fool behind a screen. Still, gotta agree. Apps are a gamble lots of guys won't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 12:20 AM
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The common consensus around here seems to be that men having sex adds value to himself, while women lose value. Why? Because managing to get sex is 'difficult' therefore only capable (read: valuable) men are going around sleeping with every other woman they come across. Don't necessarily agree with the premise, but I can understand how they come to that conclusion. Being able to sleep with lots of women requires skill (whether that's skill in charm or deception doesn't seem to be relevant), and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 02:57 PM
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I honestly don't believe that much difference would be observed if this supposed deception was pulled away. The result would be the same: men bearing the brunt of rejection, and observing as others were granted the access to love and relationships that they weren't. Maybe there'd be a slight uptick in the gym memberships and perhaps some would just give in to misery, but the status quo wouldn't be all that unfamiliar. And I didn't mean to be insulting or patronizing with that comment. It was mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 07:20 PM
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See, I never understood the 'putting pressure on the relationship' part. But maybe I'm an atypical loner. I enjoy my own company, and that'd remain true even if my girlfriend was having a night out with her friends or something. There wouldn't be an urge to text her every five minutes or even any sort of dissatisfaction that she'd like some time with her friends. My life would just return to default: Read on my own, go out and do things on my own, game or whatever else. Just because we have our …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:44 PM
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They may not experience exactly like we do, but I'm sure it's still a reality for many of them. And even so, attention and validation won't necessarily make you less lonely. Knowing that someone's stroking your ego in the hopes that they'll benefit might even exacerbate the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:55 AM
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I mean, yeah, there exist women who've decided they'll settle for nothing less than Jason Mamoa. Then there exist women who just have trouble connecting with others, that're too deep in their own head like a lot of us. Her standards might be somewhat reasonable, but her mind is telling her she won't even get that for reasons X, Y and Z.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:17 AM
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I think it's hard for a lot of dudes to acknowledge female loneliness because how often we're bombarded with the imagery of the hyper-independent woman that's killing it in her career and living it up with her posse. And, if she's not doing that, then she's kicking back at home with a glass of wine and her cat with a look of contentment. But that's all that is, really. Imagery. Lots of marketing, probably. Women might be faring better than most dudes in a social sense, but it's likely not by an …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 11:09 PM
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Pretty equal, though I try not to be judgmental altogether. It boggles my mind when I hear about my female friends and associates who talk about maintaining relationships with dudes who've cheated on them or have been known to abuse women (I've been included in both types of conversations). On the other hand, I've known dudes who'll try just about anything to earn a woman's attention, and it's some of the corniest behavior I've ever witnessed that it's almost physically painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 12:04 AM
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Depends on what you mean by traditional. Like, for instance, I don't necessarily have to see myself 'leading' the relationship. Don't even really know what that means, to be honest. I always thought a relationship was a partnership with both individuals on more or less equal footing. Not sure how that's possible if one is to lead and the other to 'follow'. My ideal relationship would be us working together, swapping ideas and implementing what works and tossing what doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:37 PM
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I'll say that, as far as sex and relationshisps are concerned, male loneliness is pretty self-inflicted. For the most part. We're so enamored with women and the thought of being sexually successful that it creates this sort of whiplash when that success doesn't come about. The opposite isn't necessarily true for women; they're not as enamored with us as we are with them in the grand scheme of things. So they're fine with being alone. They're fine with drinking wine and rubbing one out on a Frida…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:12 PM
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I think the big idea behind being a passport bro isn't about finding some naive nineteen year old that will jump you on command. It's this sort of hope that with a different geographic location, you hopefully won't be judged so harshly by the metrics that caused you to fail previously. And I'm not talking about actual terrible things like treating your wife or girlfriend like she's your property. Maybe you're not some super sociable dude that likes to go white water rafting on the weekends. Mayb…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 10:11 PM
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Women have it easier in some respects. Dating and relationships being the obvious. But, biologically, shit's kinda bad for ladies, tbh. Pregnancy, periods and menopause specifically don't sound fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:42 PM
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I've seen it, too and it's always wild. And also a sad place to be in. There's definitely an aspect of scarcity in their heads, I feel. That thought that there's no guarantee that someone else will have them and they simply have to tough it out if they want to remain in a relationship. Especially with the thought of having to go through the courtship process all over again when it's not that easy for many of us. But I do empathize.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:15 PM
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Are they wrong? Not saying it's degenerate; get off however you need so long as it's ethical. But it's not unheard of for women to use pillows, vegetables, table corners, shower heads and washing machines (that one might be a myth; not sure).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 03:34 PM
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So it sounds like the consensus is visual porn can be damaging. Maybe a swap to literary erotica would be better? Ladies seem to vouch for it and you're also actually reading, actively using your imagination. Might be worth a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 08:07 PM
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Unfortunately, I agree. And it'll always be tough for some folks, sadly. Imagine the type of dude that will go to functions or events, do what he came to do and then leave without conversation. The type of guy that can hold a conversation, but won't chase one. Just because he doesn't feel the need to. I don't have to imagine, 'cause that dude's me. Another thing is that I was startled by how many interactions among adults consisted of substance use when I first stepped out into the wild. Whether…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:45 PM
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Sort of. And it's entirely my fault. So, as a kid, I hated being told 'no'. Whether it was a toy or whatever, I hated being denied. Not that I threw tantrums or anything, but I sort of stewed in resentment. Then, when I was like, twelve, I made up in my little kiddie mind that I'd never ask for anything ever again. I'd never give someone that power over me if I could help it. I'd rather just go without than to ask and beg and plead for anything. Naturally, that translated into dating as I got ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:52 PM
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Yeah, but idk if it's so much 'ick' as it is I just don't find x attractive. Smoking (drugs in general, tbh), loud and needlessly disrespectful (that doesn't mean be a doormat - speaking your mind but having some decorum still is great), and being overly edgy. Those are my big ones, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 03:39 PM
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Met my previous Gf at work. It was sort of risky; this was my break into Pharmacy. But she made her intentions clear when she started texting me and I got charmed because of it. So I went with it. That said, I can definitely understand folks not wanting to risk their career.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 02:45 PM
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And here I am thinking I was like a four. Damn
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 01:02 AM
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The only 'leverage' that's within reason is for men to stop the desperation for women and their attention. And that'd have to take multiple different avenues. For one, we'd need to axe the thought of a man being a 'loser' dependent on his success (or lack thereof) with women - if it's fine for Jessica to read her erotica and get off by herself on a Friday night, then the same should be said for Jack. I mean, hell, I'm no virgin and I still think it's a pretty terrible ecosystem we guys have set …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 05:01 PM
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Exactly. You don't have to be super experienced. It's just a matter of maintaining composure and being relaxed. Talk and joke with them like the normal peope they are. Before you know it, you'll have befriended one. And when you befriend one, it becomes like a sort of domino effect in that many more will be willing to talk and joke with you. Chances may be good that one or two might be interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 09:08 PM
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I dunno, dude. I think it's something else that's repulsing them. Lost my card pretty late, but that's not to say I didn't have opportunities. I think the biggest factor that led me to cashing it in was that I was able to just speak with women in the environment. Laughing, joking and just being present. Before you know it, there was a group chat made and then one of them started texting me separately. Rest was history. We dated for a little bit after going through the FWB period, and she admitte…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:33 PM
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Over 30 that goes 50/50. No contest. Why would I want to date a 21 year old kid? We probably live in completely separate worlds. Besides, a woman that's willing to make an effort and not leave the act of courtship completely in my lap is infinitely more attractive mentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:06 PM
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If I had to choose, I probably go with A. She seems fun; love a bit of goofball energy. Not necessarily into the hyper-fit sorts, but I can respect it. C is just too bougie, and the self-indulgent sayings or cards or whatever they are kind of raise a few yellow flags for me. Feel like she'd be the sort saying 'if you can't love me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best'. And that's a slippery slope.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 06:38 PM
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I'd date an overweight woman. Have done so. A bit on the softer side is actually my preference. Not so much obese, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 07:42 PM
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I disagree. At least from my perspective and experience, many of us guys would be ecstatic with a woman that put in a bit more effort. You don't necessarily have to come to his place to clean, make him dinner five nights out of the week and so on. Just in that initial phase, have the moxie to make your intentions and feelings plain: 'Hey, I think you're neat. Wanna go to Texas Roadhouse this weekend?' From that point onwards, the relationship should be equal parts on the both of you. I'm not sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:28 PM
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I'm fine with tattoos, a few piercings and not necessarily fitting into a size zero (last one is actually kind of a preference). But what I can't take is overly ghetto attitudes. Being loud and obnoxious, unnecessarily rude - you get the idea. Sure, I can be friends with women like that (and am), but I couldn't take it beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 06:19 PM
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I think it's something of both. A lot of guys are more or less the same when it comes to it; we're not terribly complicated to get off, I think. But I've met ladies who liked oral, that thought oral was weird, that wanted that button mashed like a QTE and others that just wanted the lightest featherweight touch. You ladies have a lot of variation of what will and will not work for you, it seems like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 08:51 PM
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Somewhat sometimes. But then I try to remember that love and relationships aren't really necessary. That a woman's approval or validation isn't my life's purpose, and that's sort of a freeing thought. I just hope that a lot of ya'll can get out of these dark places and have a good future - whether there's a lady in it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:32 PM
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Like everyone's said, what kind of ND are we talking about? I think we dudes are completely fine with quiet or sort of awkward women, and I don't think it's far off the mark when someone says the reverse isn't necessarily true (not that it can't happen, ofc). But I don't think anyone should be accepting of freakouts or violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:23 PM
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Not all that concerned. I'd prefer a lower body count, but that's only due to health concerns and not 'ew gross women aren't supposed to do it'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:47 PM
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Funny enough, I've even heard ladies call Michael B. Jordan corny. Despite dude being one of the biggest names in Hollywood at the moment. Can't win 'em all, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:01 PM
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I'm a fan. Can't explain why, though. It's just something I realized when I was into one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:41 PM
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I'm not sure why we're always coming from the viewpoint that guys most would consider incels are always these obese, sweat-stained caricatures. Does it make us feel better to think that way? That they somehow deserve the label? Even if they don't hate women and have no desire to undo the years of progress made? Is it so hard to just think that these are just normal dudes that, yeah, may be a little awkward or introverted. Maybe life has just dealt them a bad hand and they're not so confident in …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 04:23 PM
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Just because it happens doesn't necessarily make the generalization correct, though. I'm sure there are men who will agree to go out with a woman simply for sex. I'm also sure that there are women who will agree to go on a date with a guy simply for validation and free food. Both occur. But to apply either to the vast population of the sexes is a bit off. And I'm not sure how we're extrapolating being unsure if your approach will get results with being a poor partner. Both are fixed with healthy…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 03:50 PM
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But isn't this also a generalization in itself? Not to mention that making the guy do the approach isn't much of a safeguard. If he can confidently approach, then he likely has more experience and may actually be more likely to just cut and run. There's enough stories about women being charmed into bed as well. Telling women to just let him approach is just going to limit their options and may just cheat them out of an awesome experience with a guy who just didn't think she was into him. But I g…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 02:35 PM
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Most dudes aren't going to stick around if you time-gate the bedroom. Especially if they only 'sort of' like you. They'll move on quickly enough. At least, that's how I feel. If a man is still actively engaging with you after a month and a half with no bedroom invite, then he's probably pretty into you. Of course, nothing's guaranteed, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 11:40 PM
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Better off. We wouldn't be so damn pressed about female validation and be far more content with ourselves. No trying to undercut other dudes for attention, no stupid bitterness about what women did or didn't want and more focus on the things in life that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:01 AM
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Nothing at all wrong with the bigger lady in the thumbnail, but I'd still have to go with the 50 year old because 20 is a bit too young. I'd feel really weird. If she was 25 or 26, then sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:18 PM
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How desperate are we talking? Like, crazy stalker vibes? Or is she just very forward? 'Cause I can appreciate forwardness and would definitely give it a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:37 PM
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It's a little bit different. If you're trying to sell a product, you can distance yourself from the outcome as what's being rejected is the service or product itself. Not you. There's nothing personal about it, I think (mostly). But when it's romantic rejection, and a string of it, a lot of guys can't help but come to the conclusion that they themselves are unfit. Now, I'm not gonna sit here and say BLAME THE WOMEN, but it's easy to see how their outlooks get so bleak when their female peers can…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 05:23 PM
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Texas Roadhouse is fucking amazing, dude. Best ribs I've had.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:31 PM
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Nice question; never thought to ask myself that. To be honest, I don't think so. Not exactly looking for a twenty-two year old instagram fitness model, but I think I'm in my own head far too often even for the sorts of women I like. No clue how to fix it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:31 PM
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Not sure. Being black may or may not hurt my odds, but that's fine. What might be the deal breaker is I'm a pretty big introvert.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:55 PM
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I think this hyper focus on casual is just as much about validation for us dudes, to be honest. We want the validation of a woman telling us 'yes' and that feeling of being desirable. If this was just about getting off, we could take five minutes out of our day, take care of it and then keep it pushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:48 PM
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That's fine if it comes to pass. Why are we, as dudes, so afraid of singledom? Like life as we know it crumbles without the validation of a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:57 PM
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Their loss, I guess. Chubby girls are great.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:54 PM
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Not very. Sure, everything within reason, but I'm fine with a muffin top and lack of a thigh gap. Never much saw the appeal of the super thin model-types. But more power to those that do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 04:17 PM
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I mean, it is sort of transactional, I feel like. And I don't mean it in a negative way, honestly. I'll give you time and attention in the hopes that you'll give me head-space. I want you to recognize my feelings through these gestures. There's still that element of 'I want x and so I'll do y in the hopes of getting x'. Like I said - nothing really bad or wrong about it. We've all kind of wanted to weasel our way into someone's head at some point. But I can understand being offended when someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:05 AM
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This reminds me of that story where a woman was stuck in an elevator and was rescued by this handsome fire fighter dude. She managed to somehow mobilize social media to find him and ask him out. Turns out homie was married. And I always wondered how things would've turned out if the roles were reversed - would he have been dragged for the attempt when she was just doing her job? Are we really just accepting of certain double standards? What if he and his wife had been uncomfortable? Does that no…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 08:21 PM
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See, I've always wondered about this take. Not sure who's really right. From what I've understood and from what I've seen, it's usually sort of normal to give your crush special attention. Definitely have seen ladies make food for the guys they're into. Pay attention to their hobbies even if they have no interest themselves. Compliment them and so on. So what's the inherent difference? The reaction from the rejection? Are we fine with the behavior itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:45 PM
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Aren't those just indications of interest? I mean, that's like wanting to be on a basketball team but, instead of applying, you just sort-of show off on the court with a few threes and good foot work while the coaches are chatting. All the while hoping one of em will just slap you with a sign-up sheet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:00 PM
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I don't know, man. I don't hate women, and I for sure think that they've every right to agency as people. And I've never entertained the idea of moving to find a girl. But I can't blame a dude for just wanting to finally be enough for someone. I'm talking regular, good dudes. The dudes who'll go on a date and get hit with 'You're a really sweet guy, but..." Guys who just want someone who can say "Sure, you're not 6 foot whatever with a tattoo sleeve, but you're still kinda cute and you love and …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:31 PM
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It's been said before, but it's all about validation. And here's my question to my fellow guys who're so desperate for it: Why? If this were about getting off, it wouldn't be a discussion. We can take five minutes to do that and keep our day pushing. Why is validation so important that we'll send ourselves into this miserable frenzy over it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 04:25 PM
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I mean, to be fair, that's not really being an orbiter. From what I understand, that implies you're only friends with a woman in an effort to get in her pants. Being open to the suggestion, but still totally fine with things being platonic is kinda different, I feel like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 12:43 PM
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I think I have a good grasp on why I am. It's a combination of things. I'm pretty quiet until I've gotten to know someone or I'm given a reason to speak, for one. Also, I don't escalate romantically or anything even after rapport is established because that would give someone the opportunity to reject me and I can't have that thanks to my self-esteem/ego that's always frantically trying to preserve itself. Then there's the fact that I'm a black dude that lacks that street persona, so that ain't …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:46 AM
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To the guys that engage in this sort of behavior, I'm sure it's more about validation than anything. They want the ego stroking of being chosen by her, then her and the next girl after. Toys can't choose and an escort is only working their profession. As for why they do it at the women's expense? I mean, exploiting others for your own gain is a cornerstone of being human at this point, man. Sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:28 PM
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About 5'8 - 5'9.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 10:03 PM
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Eh. I think there are plenty of attractive tall women. I'm just of the mind that they'll want a dude their height or taller so I wouldn't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 09:59 PM
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Right. In many animal hierarchies, females will mate with the alpha, but often not exclusively. I think the most recent example I was reading about was the Cabybara. Female wolves will also sneak off with non-alphas, iirc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 09:41 PM
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I dunno, man. Even as a dude, this logic doesn't track. Putting effort into X thing doesn't suddenly make X thing praiseworthy or noble. We first need to establish if X is a good or bad thing. If it's bad, then that just means you're putting effort into something that's bad. Like, we're not even talking about the behavior, but the ease at which someone can engage in the behavior. It's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:51 PM
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Just for the sake of argument, what happens when that sexual frustration has no outlet? I generally don't agree with a whole lot of RedPill thinking, but I can only imagine the compounding sense of helplessness and frustration that comes from not being selected while watching everyone else get their happily ever after with seemingly half the effort because of traits you weren't born with. Or maybe just traits you never really developed from a young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:21 PM
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As a dude that's been approached a handful of times, I can confidently say that it's always flattering. Especially when you consider most guys are hard-pressed to come by even a simple compliment from women. Now, did most of those work out? Not really. But the prevailing reason why had nothing to do with the fact that it was the girl that did the approaching. I'd encourage women to give it a try a little more. Are you going to encounter the odd guy who's rubbed the wrong way by you approaching? …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 06:35 PM
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See, this is what I'm saying. There are plenty of women content with their lives as singles. Why can't so many of us dudes learn from that example? Why is there so much vitriol? Sure, it can sting to learn you're kinda unwanted. I'm a black dude - I get it; I don't really have the options of a good-looking white guy. But why turn that disappointment and anger outward and hurt people? Why not just substitute and fill our lives with different things and enjoy some of this sorta newfound freedom fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 07:23 PM
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I dunno, man. As a dude, I don't think this is an issue for women to fix. You like who you like. Sure, societal and cultural norms, expectations and pressures influence what we look for somewhat, but that's not on any one group to examine and dismantle. If it even needs to be. I think we, as men, would be better served by the question: Why is this so important? I mean, look at most women. Plenty are more than happy remaining single, taking care of their sexual needs on their own and focusing the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:16 PM
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