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For every situation where there was a man that wanted the woman to quit working entirely, there's a situation where a woman unilaterally decides not to return to work after the couple had previously agreed to having dual income/shared parenting. I know at least three of my friends that suddenly became sole breadwinners and were forced to accept it or get divorced and lose regular access to their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:38 PM
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Each pay their own is perfectly reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 05:58 PM
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I'm not many men. Many men (and many women) say all sorts of shit I might agree with or not agree with. With regards to feminism: men's advocacy often has conflict of interests with feminism. It is valid to argue with feminists when those conflicts arise. Currently, feminism has more institutional support and has been known at times to gatekeep gender equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 08:12 PM
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that's poorly named. It should be men's issues. we know what they are: Conscription Bias in family courts Boys falling behind in education Lack of support for male victims of DV/IPV, sexual assault and rape. Sentencing gap. The point I'm making is Feminists don't ask men's advocates for approval, why should men's advocacy as Feminists for approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:55 PM
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I'm really not sure what your response has to do with my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:48 PM
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Men's shed is actually a good thing. However, I don't think that organizing a woodworking group for lonely retirees counts as advocacy. To me, advocacy typically means campaigning for policy changes or criticizing unfair social norms. I don't believe that the fact most circumcised men (which includes me) don't complain means there isn't an issue. It happened when I was a child and so I have no comparative context to know if I was harmed or not. The fact is this: it's my body and it was done befo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:50 PM
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Do feminists maintain the same level of deference with regards to men's rights? I don't think they do. Why should men's rights issues maintain any level of deference to feminism? btw, if using 'females' instead of women is offensive, so is using 'males' instead of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:24 PM
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I'm getting the "straight is wrong" or at least "straight is lesser" vibe here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:55 PM
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I've never chosen to be attracted to men, because I'm not. That's not a stance, it's a fact about how attraction works for me — the same reason conversion therapy consistently fails to produce results. When I was younger, gay men were interested in me and assumed the interest would eventually become mutual. It never did, because attraction doesn't respond to exposure or expectation. "Why don't you just try it" and "why don't you just be straight" are the same request — asking someone to override…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:45 PM
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Stupid comment. People are born with their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:44 PM
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Why can't she make her own money?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:29 PM
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Switzerland has an all-male draft too. I feel the need to give you a gold star, however, for voluntarily correcting yourself. Sincerely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:10 PM
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Hypergamy is a statistical reality, with regards to status and finances women tend to pursue across and up. It's statistics. It doesn't mean every woman is hypergamous or every man is hypogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 02:55 PM
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What was the proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:11 PM
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While the standard of 'preponderance of evidence' is common in civil law, the focus of the two cases was distinct. The UK trial evaluated whether a newspaper acted with malice in publishing allegations, whereas the US trial focused on the specific defamatory nature of statements made by an individual. Equating the two as reaching the same conclusion ignores the different legal questions each court was tasked with answering.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 04:02 PM
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The legal standard of evidence is one thing, but the application of that standard is entirely different depending on what is being litigated. A libel defense—which determines if a publication had sufficient grounds to print a statement—is not the same as a defamation trial determining if an individual knowingly made false accusations in a specific op-ed. You are equating a publisher's legal defense with an individual's liability. Since we fundamentally disagree on the significance of these disti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:05 PM
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You are conflating two different things: a libel verdict and a determination of truth. The UK court ruled on whether The Sun was protected from libel for calling Johnny Depp a 'wife beater' based on their interpretation of the evidence. The judge’s finding to the 'civil standard'—which is simply a 'more likely than not' threshold—was specific to that newspaper's defense, not a criminal trial assessing Amber Heard's credibility as an accuser. Pointing to that verdict to claim the accusations were…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 01:00 PM
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Again, that trial didn't prove the accusation was false. All it did was clear the Sun of any wrong doing in publishing the wife beater headline
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:51 PM
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It was enough for the Sun to avoid paying for damages, it didn't prove that he was an abuser. That's the point. The trial didn't prove what you think it did. The U.S. trial did prove that she intentionally made false statements and she ended up losing that trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:50 PM
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Except feminists are no longer challenging institutions, they are the instutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 12:06 PM
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The UK trial where all they had to prove was "more probable than not" to keep the Sun newspaper from being held for liable? I don't think "Amber is not a false accuser" was the outcome of that trial. It found that the Sun was not in the wrong for printing the headline. The U.S. trial, on the other hand, specifically found: The statements implied she was a victim of abuse by Depp. The statements were completely false. She acted with "actual malice". Keep on trying to rewrite history.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:59 AM
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yes all of these organizations wrote a letter of support for his abuser and false accuser. National Organization for Women (NOW) National Women's Law Center (NWLC) Women's March Foundation Equality Now Feminist Majority Foundation Futures Without Violence Esperanza United Refuge (UK domestic violence charity) Sanctuary for Families Sakhi for South Asian Women Chicago Alliance Against Sexual Exploitation (CAASE) Know Your IX National LGBTQ Institute on Intimate Partner Violence Ms Magazine
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 11:48 AM
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r/AskFeminists? LOL No, that sub is not compassionate towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:32 PM
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I think that's a rather shallow interpretation of human existence. But it doesn't matter. Even if men made society (which is men and women), if society is oppressing men then society is responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:36 AM
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Men suffer because of society (that includes women).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:59 AM
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No. There was an effort to include women in the draft, but it didn't go anywhere. It was opposed more from the conservative than the progressives. It is barbaric.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:11 AM
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So is this the order of preference: 1. no draft draft just for men draft for men and women ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:08 AM
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I guess, like the Feminists, they're pro all male draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:05 AM
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No, they just don't want women to be drafted. Otherwise, there would have been a vote to abolish the draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:59 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:58 AM
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Men are not a monolith. None of the men fighting in the war started it. This is the worst kind of apex fallacy, thousands die and you're dismissing them because someone who has the same gender as them was a head of state and declared war.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:32 AM
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Feminists in Switzerland voted for male only draft citing "unpaid labor" as the reason for excluding women from the draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:17 AM
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Feminists in Switzerland voted for male only draft citing "unpaid labor" as the reason for excluding women from the draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 01:16 AM
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Then why are only men required to perform such a duty? Educating a child doesn't force them to sacrifice their lives or take the lives of others without their consent. EDIT: I find it amazing that women feel they have the authority to help decide if a man must be in battle regardless of his wishes, but somehow any opinion a man has about abortion is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:16 PM
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Your comparisons aren't getting any better. Forcing someone to fight in an army is not the same as forcing someone to attend school. It's violation of basic human rights and autonomy. And your premise is wrong: "Codifying the duty of a male citizen of a nation state is not violating bodily autonomy in the same way as preventing a woman to have an abortion. This is because a woman needs to freedom to navigate her own life and a man's life is fodder for whatever society decides to do with it."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:15 PM
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Forcing you to go to a foreign country against your will and putting a rifle in your hand and putting you in a kill or be killed situation, I guess, is bodily autonomy to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:36 PM
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Ok, I get you're saying. Criminal are incarcerated (lost their freedom) as a consequence of committing a crime. Conscription is a loss of freedom as a consequence of being a man. So, being born, if so happens you come out of the womb with a penis, is a similar to a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:34 PM
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All the responses to your comment amount to this: we don't have empathy for men, but we expect empathy from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:57 PM
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Similar rate? I think you're overestimating how often most men have casual sex. I'm almost 60 and I think I've had casual sex 3 times in my lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 04:10 PM
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I support abortion, begrudgingly. When it comes to "consent to sex is not consent to parenthood", it only applies to women. Men are told to get sterilized or abstain. We get the same "well sex causes pregnancy duh, keep it in your pants" tropes that women get from pro-lifers ( or anti-choicers or whatever). The right to an abortion for women has been the cornerstone of their liberation: it allows the to choose when they become a parent. If that's the case for women, why is it "you shouldn't have…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:21 PM
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I'm not opposed to abortion. I'm just responding to the notion that women are the only ones whose bodily autonomy isn't respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:11 PM
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Governments already take away men's bodily autonomy and they've been doing it for centuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:31 PM
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If it's chosen, sure. If it's not chosen, then it doesn't prevent fatherhood. We, as men, don't have access to it. It's not our choice or our right, but our lives are impacted by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:17 PM
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It's not reliably accessible for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:10 PM
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Except that we're told to get sterilized or abstain from sex altogether if we want to avoid parenthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 02:00 PM
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Abortion, for men, is not a reliable way of avoiding unwanted fatherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:59 PM
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Nobody is raising hell about conscription. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:43 PM
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They already do: conscription.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:37 PM
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Austria, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Greece, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Colombia, Cuba. Iran, United Arab Emirates. North Korea South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, Eritrea, Angola, South Sudan and of course Ukraine all have active male only conscription. It's an active problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:30 PM
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"They" already do and they've been doing it for centuries. It's called conscription and nobody gives a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:00 PM
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Yea, I am not attracted in the same way to my wife of 20+ years. The attraction of our younger days had a purpose and we produced two children. It's not that I'm not attracted to her anymore, but it's no longer driving reproduction because that phase of our lives has passed. Would I dump her for a 20 year younger version of her? Not at my age. I would be more attracted to her for sure. My wife of 20 years ago would want to have children and go through all of that over again. Oh, hell no. Not at …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:27 PM
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I'm not mad at anybody. When feminists talk about toxic masculinity, it's typically about policing men's behavior. I'm simply reacting to that. When feminists stop doing that and start talking about supporting men instead, I'll react to that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:01 AM
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Oh, I think we listen to what's being said and that's the reaction you see. For example, toxic masculinity was supposed to be about society's harmful expectations on men. The term was supposed to be about supporting men. It should have been the rallying cry for men's advocates. It was hijacked by feminists (sorry, but true) and became how men's behavior is harmful to society. It's now used to police men instead of supporting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:48 PM
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"this was a reality barely 30-40 years ago" That's a majority of my life, and I'm old.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:43 PM
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wow
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:56 PM
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Especially poor men, there's no money in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 07:00 PM
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What's changed since then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:01 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:59 PM
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Yea, you're right. You didn't say most women did. I agree with the rest of what you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:54 PM
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Is that a question? How is it relevant to what you quoted from me?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:52 PM
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Just because a group is statistically less likely to commit violent crimes does not mean that the group possesses inherently "wonderful" character traits (like kindness, empathy, or moral superiority). Using a crime statistic to make a broad claim about personality or "decent" nature is an overgeneralization. They point out that women are capable of bullying, manipulative behavior, or social sabotage, which are often not captured in standard violent crime statistics but can be very damaging in p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 09:43 PM
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There's no evidence that men pose more of an abuse risk than women. There's no evidence that the breadwinner is more of an abuse risk than the primary caretaker. It's a rebuttable presumption. So, I agree, if one parent has concerns, they need to make those clear to the judge. That's what rebuttable presumption is. Regardless, while I do believe that a lot of women (even feminist ones), are for 50/50 custody...I wouldn't agree that most of them do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:57 PM
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This has "women are wonderful" written all over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:45 PM
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NOW has opposed the rebuttable presumption of 50/50 coverage for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:17 PM
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I'm with you. Dating should be about getting to know each other, not trying to extract something. I would be more than happy to be in a relationship with a woman who earned as much or more than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:35 PM
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You're dismissing the entire conversation as a simple test of 'who likes kids,' which completely misses the structural reality of the situation. It’s not just a matter of whether a man enjoys children; it’s about the fact that step-parenting often forces a man into a role of a 'live-in assistant and financial benefactor' who is denied any real authority or agency in the child's upbringing. Furthermore, you're glossing over why the desire for biological children is significant. It isn't merely ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:01 PM
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Stepfather is a thankless job. Responsibility with no authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:36 PM
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My wife isn't kept; she's just between jobs. That's a fundamental feature of a stable partnership—relying on each other's income when needed. When she's employed, we rely on her income if I'm not. The purpose is stability, not authority. Again, our respective allowances are just agreed-upon discretionary income. I’m not sure why you see a temporary, mutually beneficial period of stability as 'lowering' anyone—it’s just how long-term teams look after each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:41 PM
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I didn't mean to imply that you should feel self-conscious or negative about your situation. Class resentment is a societal reaction that you didn't invent; it’s an external dynamic you’re just happening to encounter. There is no reason for you to feel defensive about your choices or your wealth—my point was simply to explain why others might react to it the way they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:28 PM
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You're right. A budget and an allowance aren't the same thing. A budget includes bills, savings, investments...and allowances. And it's not something I approve of or she approves of unilaterally. We agree on what the allowances will be (they're the same for each of us). Autonomy is a little tricky when you're in a long term relationship. Allowances help define the boundary for that autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:23 PM
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I think the term 'allowance' gets a bad rap. In my marriage, we pool our income—when my wife was working, and now that she isn't. We both get an allowance from our pooled funds. An allowance is really just budgeted discretionary income for both of us. It’s a tool for managing joint finances, not a power play. It’s nothing to be offended about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:14 PM
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I think you're experiencing class resentment, which isn't necessarily driven by gender norms. Many of us live with a constant undercurrent of financial fear—from meeting immediate expenses to worrying about long-term retirement. Because your experience is far removed from that common struggle, it can naturally trigger a defensive or resentful reaction in others. While there is certainly some criticism directed at the dynamic of 'providing' itself, I suspect much of the pushback is actually roote…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:32 PM
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I do agree that a person's value is most accurately evaluated externally. That's where many people stumble. They think they're exceptional, when they're just average. And when they can't attract an exceptional mate, they think the game is rigged.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:00 PM
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Even an average woman's value far outweighs that of even a desirable man. Can you explain to me how an average woman's value outweighs an above average man's value?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:24 PM
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You keep deflecting my arguments by referring to my emotional state. Just because I'm arguing with you doesn't mean I'm offended. I'm just observing and making arguments. And replying in Reddit is the point of Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 08:10 PM
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You have claimed your arguments are purely descriptive, but you are highlighting small, statistically modest differences—like the 0.26 effect size in narcissism—and presenting them as if they reveal a universal, inherent 'nature.' By ignoring that the overlap between genders is far greater than the differences, and by omitting that the researchers themselves attributed these trends to societal conditioning rather than biology, you aren't just describing data. You are using a curated selection of…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:46 PM
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I think we’re talking past each other on definitions. You view your comments as 'descriptive' because you are citing perceived data patterns. However, you are using those patterns to define the current state of 'male-female relational difficulty.' When you state that these patterns make it 'hard as hell to get along with men,' that statement creates a social reality. Even if you aren't literally saying 'thou shalt not date,' you are prescribing an outcome—that because of these patterns, relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:40 PM
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your comments ARE prescriptive. You use the generalization to justify why it's hard for you get along with men in general. You use them to blame the difficulty on male-male and male-female relationships on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:00 PM
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This is prescriptive: That makes it hard as hell to enjoy or get along with them many men in a relational way, which is why male-male friendships and male-female romantic partnerships are taking a hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:47 PM
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You said you weren't indicting an entire group and you were. The absence of 'all' doesn't change that. That's my point. Whether it's 'acceptable' in this sub or not is irrelevant; admitting that this is a sub built to generalize doesn't make the generalizations any less prejudicial.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:07 PM
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You're making a generalization and characterizing an entire demographic. It's doesn't have to be "all" to be prejudicial. "Mostly" is a generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:53 PM
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Your analogies are getting worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:49 PM
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And tbh it isn’t a “minority” when you start looking at interpersonal behavioral patterns and Bayesian dynamics. That makes it hard as hell to enjoy or get along with them in a relational way, which is why male-male friendships and male-female romantic partnerships are taking a hit. Yea you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:45 PM
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You're going to have to if you ever want to reach level 40 wizardry. Stay in the pocket!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:36 PM
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"aLL mEn NeEd To bE BeTtEr"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:17 PM
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The argument hinges on a definition it never defends. "Need" here means instrumental need — you're a means to an end, a tool. And against that specific version, sure, being wanted is better. That part holds. But there's another kind of need — attachment need, where someone's absence creates genuine loss and their presence isn't interchangeable with anyone else's. That's not transactional. That's actually close to what "want" is supposed to mean in this post. So the binary only survives by a defi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:46 PM
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That's the implicit claim, but you haven't defended it — you've assumed it. The false negative / false positive asymmetry only justifies the behavior if the cost of the false positives is acceptable. You're treating that as obvious, but it isn't. The men who trigger the signal just for being men, without posing any risk, bear a real cost in how they're treated in ordinary interactions. Whether that cost is worth the safety benefit is a legitimate question. It's also the exact question that gets …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:53 PM
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That's actually a concession. You're confirming gender is a relevant variable in a probability estimate — which is the threshold argument, not the pure uncertainty one. Those aren't the same thing. And once it's a probability estimate applied to individuals, "not all men" isn't useless — it's a description of the misfire rate. The men who trigger the signal while posing no risk are bearing a real cost. Pointing that out isn't deflection, it's the accurate observation that the signal is imprecise…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:33 PM
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The keys analogy only works if the caution is applied uniformly — you don't leave your keys out based on who's in the room, you just don't leave them out. But that's not what's being described here. The caution is specifically gendered, which means the group is the variable driving it. That's not pure behavioral uncertainty — it's a probability estimate about a specific demographic, which puts us back to the threshold question, and back to whether "not all men" is actually useless. You also star…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:48 PM
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Fair correction on the curly hair point — you're saying there's no universal correlation, not just no causal link. Granted. But that move has a cost you may not want to pay. "Universal across every human population" is the standard argument for an innate explanation. If that's where you're going, say it plainly — because patriarchal social structures, male dominance hierarchies, and gendered socialization around aggression are also cross-cultural universals. A correlation that holds everywhere i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 10:34 PM
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You opened by arguing that the qualifier is what separates a legitimate pattern from an unfair generalization. Drop it, and you've crossed a line. That's the entire framework you laid out. You then conceded that safety discourse routinely drops it — and immediately ruled that it doesn't matter. But it has to do that work consistently, or it isn't doing logical work at all — it's just selectively deployed to protect conclusions you've already committed to. The uncertainty argument doesn't rescue …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 08:46 PM
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“Women take precautions because some men can be dangerous.” is that really what gets said? I think it's "Women take precautions because men can be dangerous.". In most of the discussions, I don't see the "some" qualifier. If I do, it's given with a certain level of malice: "Yes, yes...not all men. But enough men."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 08:09 PM
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You missed one of the phrases relevant to the discussion "A lot of men are violent towards women" is a patter and open to discussion "Men are violent and cannot be trusted" is when "Not all men" comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 07:42 PM
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You said the curly hair comparison fails because curly hair has nothing to do with driving. But that just shifts the burden — it doesn't settle it. The question is whether gender is actually a causal explanation for violence, and it isn't. The correlation is real. The cause isn't "being male." It's downstream variables — socialization, economic marginalization, peer group dynamics, cultural scripts around aggression — that happen to be unevenly distributed by sex. Gender is a proxy for those fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 07:13 PM
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Curly hair has nothing to do with how you drive. Curly hair would be correlation. Drawing causal conclusions around curly hair would be discriminatory. If all of the dangerous drivers in a city have curly hair, but a city only has 3 dangerous drivers, and the number of curly haired people in a city number like 50 thousand, then even using correlation falls a part. Next, what are we talking about, sexual harassment, sexual assault, rape or murder? Those are all very different things. While it mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 06:08 PM
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But even that's an unfair generalization. Women commit violence, just not as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 09:15 PM
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It's still a generalization, so I don't understand the argument. Men are probably doing the same. They're both wrong. If a curly haired person cuts me off in traffic, and I think that all curly haired people are uncourteous drivers...that's an unfair generalization. What's your point: that men are generally violent, abusive and predatory is true and therefore fair? Does that apply to you? Are you violent, abusive and predatory? Just FYI, women commit DV/IPV at the same rate as men, they just don…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 09:02 PM
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You correct yourself? So now you agree that your original premise was false? Good talk!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:34 PM
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You opened this thread arguing the grievance is fabricated. You're now arguing it's real but deserved. Those are different claims and the shift matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:17 PM
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"Proving my point" appearing three times in one reply is a sign the argument has become unfalsifiable — any response, including agreeing with you, counts as confirmation. That's not a debate position, that's a closed loop. Also worth noting: you started this thread arguing the grievance is fabricated. You're now arguing it's real but justified by patriarchy. Those aren't the same claim. The goalposts moved and you didn't announce it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:51 PM
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On "historically the ruling class have been men" — that's a historical explanation for why the pattern exists, not a justification for it continuing, and more importantly, it concedes the asymmetry is real. If your own explanation requires acknowledging that men are criticized as a class because of their group's historical status, you've confirmed the structural dynamic rather than refuted it. On "equal criticism for different outcomes" — nobody asked for equal outcomes. The argument is about wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:28 PM
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The argument has a structural problem it can't escape: it defeats a position no one actually holds. The claim it attributes to the manosphere — that women are never criticized — isn't the argument being made. The actual critique is about asymmetric treatment at scale: that men are criticized as a class routinely and institutionally, while equivalent aggregate criticism of women gets labeled misogyny. You've answered a different question. The evidence makes this worse, not better. Every woman on …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:10 PM
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If we're going to suggest that women and men advocate for each other, like men advocating for reproductive autonomy for women, or wage equality, share emotional labor, safety...etc women could advocate for More attention for men's suicide, which is 3x what women's is. Men's live 4 to 5 years less than women, but in many countries retire later. Men get somewhere between 30-50% longer sentences for the same crime Men get conscripted, women don't (except in very few cases) Men have been falling beh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:09 PM
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Men who seek hookups aren't looking for LTRs. Who knew?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 04:01 PM
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Often, misandry is treated as an extreme, rare edge case—requiring proof of total, literal "hatred"—while misogyny has been expanded into a broad umbrella that covers everything from systemic prejudice to simple disagreements or even advocacy for men's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:18 PM
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You're responding to what others in the subreddit argue, not what I said. My flair doesn't make me responsible for other people's arguments. You expanded *my* argument, not the subreddit's. Justify it on those terms or concede the strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:10 PM
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That's a strawman. I didn't make any claim about who gets credit for infrastructure or society's achievements. I made a narrow correction: culture isn't solely the creation of men. You've expanded that into an argument I never made, then attacked that instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:03 PM
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Ok, but let's go back to your original statement I don't ever get why feminism is the target of the ire here Do you now? I mean they have a "Parliamentary Secretary on Men's Behavior" in Australia. That's damned near dystopian and Feminist. It also has nothing to do with Tiktok.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:46 PM
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Which is encouraging. Regardless, it's still men paying for initiating and paying for the date. It's still men performing and women evaluating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:24 PM
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It doesn't have to fit an algorithm though. There are feminists academics and book authors that express hostile attitudes towards men. They are celebrated for doing so. Just to note: I don't even have a TikTok account.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:05 PM
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It's still primarily men asking and men paying. However, I would (if I were single) welcome the change. Currently, it's no where close to even: not by a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:54 PM
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Women generally expect men to initiate (ask). It's not just Tiktok, it's a social norm that has been going on for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:14 PM
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Feminists as a group can be judged for what they tolerate in their membership. Hateful content from women that identify as feminists get encouragement, upvotes...from other Feminists. Feminists rarely respond critically to that content. This is a ya'll problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:12 PM
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So the real problem is that men have created a culture over thousands of years, which is actively and aggressively perpetuated every day by men, that sexual contact with men is ruinous. Men and women created a culture, not just men. Society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:09 PM
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Sorry. I misinterpreted your comment as sarcastic. To be fair, this is a bit of an overreaction.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/26 10:25 PM
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It's pedantic to disparage someone for a typo on Reddit. This is a space to support men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/26 01:25 PM
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This post, I think, is a strawman. I don't think men think that there shouldn't be any standards for men. Many men feel that the additional grooming and preparation that women perform isn't equivalent to the cost and effort of planning and paying for dates. I don't know if that's true, at least not universally. Some dates don't cost that much, some preparation does. Regardless, many men feel like they're placed in the role as performer and women are placed in the role of evaluator and that makes…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:15 PM
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There are men and there are women. Anyone who thinks there are more good of one or the other are either ego centric, sexist or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 07:06 PM
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"place an extra burden on many women, who already shoulder a large part of the unpaid work of raising and caring for children and relatives, as well as household tasks" Ok fine, stop complaining about emotional labor and unfair distribution household duties. Either accept that as fair for not having to do military service or support mandatory national service for women. You shouldn't be able to have both.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/25 01:03 AM
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Legal equality has existed for decades, you're correct. But if the principle of equality automatically translated to equal practice, we wouldn't need to discuss gender disparities in any domain - pay, leadership representation, or anything else. Criminal law is mostly gender neutral on paper. Yet men receive approximately 63% longer sentences than women for the same crimes (University of Michigan Law School, 2012). Women are also twice as likely to avoid incarceration entirely when convicted. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 10:34 PM
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I already read that article, awesomeness.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 02:25 PM
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I don't think that feminists should address male-specific issues. I just wish they would stop opposing community action on men's issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/25 05:27 PM
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That's an incorrect definition. Toxic masculinity is social expectations of masculinity that are toxic. See? It's a social issue created by unfair social norms. The way you're wording, which is common in feminist circles, blames men for complying to it without holding society responsible for indoctrination and enforcement. Men are only rewarded for valor and sacrifice within the context of provider and protector norms. Men get punished for stepping outside of those expectations, and you blame th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/25 10:24 PM
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Thanks!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/25 04:22 PM
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Thanks for the encourage and the criticism. The funny part is that this is the article I never intended to write.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/25 12:30 PM
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Well, English is my only language, so my hats off to you. As far as full citations, I might do that if there's enough interest in the article. Right now, it's just handful of people (most not even Medium subcribers) who have read it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/25 05:54 PM
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I'll check it out! I don't quite understand what you mean by the citations.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/25 04:08 PM
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It's true. Do some research.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/25 02:15 PM
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99% of men are not in a danger to women. Take your hate somewhere else.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/25 01:41 PM
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The difference is, women who don't feel safe using dating apps can simply choose not to use them. It doesn't work that way for men and apps like Tea. A profile about us emerges on that app without our knowledge or consent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/25 04:25 PM
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#3 is a red flag to me. Someone who says that thinks that inflexibility and stubbornness are virtues
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:42 PM
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I know! I've seen it with my wife. My kids are already "corrupted" too. My parents were religious and censored a lot of things. I think the pendulum swung the opposite way for me. I censored very little. Only things that I thought were really harmful. My kids learned what was appropriate or inappropriate in certain company.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/25 09:59 PM
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Totally should take my daughter next they come. She's a theatre student at Booker T Washington in Dallas (a performing arts high school). Still hearing "I've got maggots in my scrotum".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/25 08:46 PM
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I don't know what the term "family values" means. I do know that it's easier to raise a family with two people who get along with each other. Regardless of what anyone will tell you, marriage is awesome when you love the person you're married to, and they love you back. I've been married for 24 years and I have two children, 20M and 16F. It's not always easy, but I believe it's easier than co-parenting and being single. My wife and I had a brush with divorce, but we ultimately stayed together. W…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/25 03:23 PM
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And if you want to adress that on your own post go for it but the fact of the matter is women can get away with stuff men can't. That's not how Reddit works. You post, people comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:22 PM
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I look for the most qualified suitor (besides me, of course) and punch them in the face in order to assert dominance. I then pull down my pants and start peeing everywhere to mark my territory. Finally I spread my colorful plumage and strut around in circles around my target. Unfortunately I only attract hippos, dogs and peacocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:37 PM
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Real entitlement is the notion that you bring value for just existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:20 PM
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When women list off a list of requirements that they themselves couldn't possibly meet, and call them the bare minimum, I get the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:17 PM
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I agree, there's a continuum of attraction between both parties that is totally normal. There are women I'm friends with that I think I'm more attracted to then the other way around. It doesn't matter because I'm married and I don't show my attraction (or at least I try not to) and they don't use it to their advantage (at least from what I can tell).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:46 PM
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I get why you might feel this way. I'm married and I don't cheat. I have friendships with women that are married and won't cheat. It's easier when sex is removed from the equation. However, it's possible to be friends with someone even when you are sexually attracted to them. You just have to have self awareness and boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:02 PM
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Wo)men act like this when they’re emotionally attracted to you, but not sexually attracted. I was with you until this statement. Women and men act like this because they like what they get out of it and they're either clueless (not likely) about the damage their doing or they simply don't care enough stop. Like you said, sometimes they may feel conflicted, but not enough to stop it from happening. It's wrong, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 01:55 PM
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Not lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 05:54 PM
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But you write hateful, inflammatory things. I'm familiar with your content. Pot meet kettle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:28 PM
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He's inflammatory? Pot meet kettle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:10 PM
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What's your point? We only smash the Patriarchy that benefits men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:37 PM
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I agree with it, but it's skewed. It's all about how men view love, not women. If you're red pill, you're entitled. If you're blue pill you a 'nice guy' who trades favors for validation. It's all about how men view love transactionally. What about women? Or do all women view love in a healthy way?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:29 PM
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This is a stupid debate, with a very dehumanizing premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 06:02 PM
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I think that rationale might be a little dubious, self serving.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:33 PM
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Here's what I was taught. Don't ever hit a girl/woman, even if she hits you. If you fear for your life, run, don't fight back. Your families financial situation is YOUR PROBLEM. You must make sure ends meet or you are not a man. You must pay for all dates, open doors, and treat women with respect. If you're broke, you deserve to be lonely. Showing emotion is a luxury reserved for women. You must tolerate emotional tantrums from women and remain calm and respectful. Women may or may not have a ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 04:56 PM
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The majority of divorce cases don't go to trial because it's prohibitively expensive. Massachusetts doesn't have a presumed child custody like most states (either joint custody or primary carer custody). It makes sense that Massachusetts would have favorable outcomes for men in those cases. Lawyers will often counsel their clients to avoid going to court with cases that won't win, this will cause the cases that do go to court to tend to be favorable. I do think it's getting better, but it's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:32 PM
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Men are victims of violent crime too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:16 PM
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Equality is subjective as hell. Furthermore, I'm talking about groups, not individuals. Finally, you're virtue signaling and it's insufferable. Arguably, when feminists oppose collective action to address men's issues that aren't supporting equality either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:52 PM
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But, as a group, feminists can't expect men (as a group) to support feminists issues when they broadly oppose collective action for men's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:35 PM
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I'm not sure what the difference is. I cannot fathom how feminists demand men's support if they don't support men's issues too, but there it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:32 PM
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I think it's fair to expect reciprocity. It's unrealistic for you to expect someone to care about when you don't care about them, that goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:06 PM
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Nothing to prove. If she told me I'm the father, and I'm not, then she lied. It means she was having sex with multiple people and she lied to all of them. She should have let all parties know they were potentially the father and requested a DNA test for each of them, To do otherwise is immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:42 PM
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I think men's advocacy should be just that. It has nothing to do with feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/25 08:07 PM
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I have never heard a rape joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:45 PM
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Why do men in particular want to argue that women are always at fault for being abused, as if we're ethereal mind readers that can always detect a person's intentions and can never be lied to? As if this goes only one way. Have you ever heard: "I wonder what did he do to deserve it?"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 07:38 PM
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Condoning dishonesty, betrayal and cruelty is the weakest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:16 PM
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The same ole men just want sex and nothing else. Very dehumanizing. That's the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:03 PM
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That is very weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:55 PM
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I like Gabby's content. It's logical and empathetic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/25 02:06 PM
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So that is a very, very, very small fraction of the population. If that is what the OP is talking about, "marrying a man who works for the fun of it and has enough money in the bank to support a family fabulously without having to work.". Well yea, then it's should be freaking hard as hell and the woman in question should look really really good and that's completely fair. How very entitled do you need to be to complain how hard it is to attract a fabulously wealthy mate so you can sit on your a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:44 PM
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"High Status" is a very subjective term. What do you mean by "High Status"? For example, I'm in the top 5% percentile for individual incomes in the U.S.. Does that make me "High Status"? My boss is probably in the top 1%, and I know him. What constitutes high status?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:02 PM
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I guarantee you high status men still don't care about what handbag you have on your shoulder. Buying an expensive handbag doesn't make you sophisticated. If you can't afford it, it makes you look like a fool. If you're complaining about how unfair your dating life is because of how much you spent on a handbag, well...fool. I'm not autistic and using that as an insult is really fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 09:29 PM
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Really? LOL! That's a requirement for you? You're gonna cut out 99% for the 1% based on the fact that they value a really nice handbag? Forget looks, ambition, thoughtfulness, emotional intelligence and humor...you don't need any of that. You just wanna guy who says, "OMG!! What a cute handbag!". Okie dokie.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 08:18 PM
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I just noticed your edit. I don't know a lot about the details of your life, but that resentment probably hurts you more than anyone. Resentment is like getting revenge on someone by punching yourself in the face. It doesn't work. You're not getting any younger. Try to accept yourself and the world as it is and look for happiness where you can find it. Find a way to forgive those who you feel have injured you (real or imagined...it doesn't matter). There are other kinds of love besides romance. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/25 06:06 PM
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Then what do they have to do with dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:25 PM
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If you're not buying them to impress men, then it has nothing to do with dating. It's like me saying that it's not fair that I have to buy an expensive sports car to date: no I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:24 PM
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I can guarantee that 99% of men do not care about designer handbags. In fact, it's a detractor as we don't really get the value of an expensive handbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:47 PM
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Well, I don't think it makes sense to compare the two regardless, tbh. Except maybe that they're both victims of violence that they didn't sign up for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:12 PM
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The difference is the women fighting and dying in Ukraine volunteered for it. No woman was forced to fight in Ukraine. Many of the men were forced.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:32 PM
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Men aren't a monolith. Very few men have the power to declare war on another state and mobilize a civilian population to do it. Most men who are forced through conscription to fight in war didn't have anything to do with starting it. I have a 20 year old son who has never even been in a fight, and if he was a Ukrainian citizen, they would have put a rifle in his hands to make him kill or be killed. I'm pretty sure all of the 20 year old men in the Ukraine fighting this war had nothing to do with…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 04:01 PM
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They aren't forced to fight though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:55 PM
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Are you a danger to women? If you're not, then emphasize that. If you identify as an incel, you might keep that to yourself. There is a lot of stigma associated with that word that you don't want. Regardless, being online a lot, being nerdy and awkward with women is not a crime. You do not deserve contempt for your challenges with the opposite sex. Now in your 40's, your life is your own, good or bad. If you are doing no harm to others, your family needs to accept you how you are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/25 02:56 PM
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If I steal a car and you steal a car and we both get caught and it was the first offense for both of us, why would I get a longer sentence? Because men are more likely to commit crime? How is that fair? Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 09:02 PM
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Ok, I don't understand your point of view then. If women are experiencing leniency, relative to men, with regards to criminal sentencing for no other reason than their gender...that's privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:58 PM
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if there even are lighter sentences for the same crimes you can’t prove mens higher propensity to commit violent crime doesn’t factor in Why should men's, general, higher propensity to commit crime be a factor? I could see maybe how a man's criminal history would, but as a man why should my gender alone be a factor?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:36 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 09:16 PM
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Yep, this you? Are you going to make point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 08:50 PM
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I'm looking back at this thread and I'm not seeing anyone talking about reproductive rights besides you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:38 PM
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What does that have to do with autism? Why do you hate people with autism?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:27 PM
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You lost your fucking mind. I wasn't excusing an autistic man for bad behavior. I was calling you out for being a hateful asshat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:16 PM
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Men don’t care because they aren’t concerned about the physical consequences of pregnancy, childbirth, nursing, and being solely responsible for a child’s well being for 18+ years. As a man I've never been pregnant, so sue me. There's nothing I can do about that. I have been a father to two children 16 and 20. I don't what you mean by 'being solely responsible for a child's well being for 18+ years', but men do care about parenthood and there are men who are single parents. The only men who give…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:59 PM
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The guy is the one shooting the gun. He can have sex with her without a condom without ejaculating in her. So what is the point of these responses then? It seems that you're saying than men are more responsible for unwanted pregnancy even in the context of consent. Can you clarify?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:53 PM
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If two people decide to have sex, that is consent. They are equally responsible for the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:44 PM
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So men shouldn't be able to have sex unless they're ready to be parents or sterilized? Should we treat women the same? If so, why do women need access to elective abortions?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 09:31 PM
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Because men will fuck anything. Not true. Some will, some won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:20 PM
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You’d have to prove that she knew the child wasnt his. Is it not enough to prove that she knew it might not be his? It's possible that a woman might be sexually active with two or more men. If she gets pregnant and chooses one and says "you're the father" and keeps the possibility of one of the other two being the father to herself, shouldn't that be enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 08:17 PM
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You might start by not using the word incel at all, unless you're actually talking about a person who identifies as such. If you use the word incel otherwise, we can only assume that your intention is malevolent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 06:14 PM
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"Who set that system up?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiKOed5Md_o&t=305s This is a good counter to that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/25 04:39 PM
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It's ok. I was just reading this article by Simon Fokt, a author I generally like: https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/the-two-ways-we-approach-mens-problems-are-both-wrong/ It's representative of how I see a lot of men's advocacy these days (at least the socially acceptable ones). I generally agree with the article, but there is one paragraph that makes me a little angry. Dear Progressives (of any gender) Please do not invalidate men’s struggles. I know you’re angry and tired. I know yo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/25 10:25 PM
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I saw it too. I commented on it. The author acknowledged the past lack of medical research on women and the fact that often men don't look after their own medical care. The author said it wasn't a zero-sum game. I kept scrolling to find one unhateful comment. People saw the headline and reacted. It was crazy! Now I'm really feeling resentful about it. As a man, I realize now, there is so much animosity and so little empathy for me in society, from men or women
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/25 08:29 PM
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She was 19 and it was 41 freaking years ago. Who cares?
/r/MensRights08/01/25 06:53 PM
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It seems logical that the recidivism rate for physically abusive men will be high if they return to a physically abusive partner. You can't successfully address domestic violence by stopping one gender from being violent. RIP Murray Straus.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/25 04:51 PM
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nah, you gone hayal, smelly egg. /s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/11/24 01:13 PM
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Very interesting video. It explains why people (feminists in this case) can extremely rigid in their beliefs. I've been guilty of "being in the red" and not being willing to listen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/24 03:54 PM
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Wait, isn't getting people, including feminists, to acknowledge issues that are unique to men the whole point of all of this? Why are you disparaging her?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/24 03:08 PM
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I'm afraid the Democratic party will see this as a backlash against Feminism and that Kamala's loss was caused by widespread misogyny. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/06/us-election-trump-presidency-women They can't (or won't) see that they exclude men from their messaging. I know I should be more positive, but I just don't feel that way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 02:17 PM
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I like Aba and Preach. They're both very reasonable and intelligent (and funny!)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/24 06:15 PM
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Chris William's Modern/Wisdom is good. He'll interview right wingers (like Ben Shapiro), but a lot of his interviews are left wingers (Richard Reeves, George (Tinmen), Scott Galloway and Christine Emba). He seems a little left of center and he's very grounded, empathetic and intelligent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/24 05:10 PM
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Feminists might not be inherently misandrists, but feminism is where misandrists are welcomed or cheered. That's it right there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/24 12:33 PM
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To my knowledge, safe haven laws are gender neutral.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/24 03:43 PM
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I get what you're saying, but that's not what I define as legal parental surrender, as it is invoked after the child is born. When I think of Legal Parental Surrender, it has to be invoked within the same period that the impregnated woman can legally exercise her right to an abortion. If women can't get an abortion legally, then legal parental surrender shouldn't be an option. I want to make this clear, it's not about walking away from the responsibility of supporting a living child. It's about …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 08:37 PM
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I agree with the notion of legal parental surrender. The opposition to it, however, is overwhelming and that opposition comes from both sides of the political spectrum.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/24 09:52 PM
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That's my problem with menslib. I think it's fine that they're aligned with feminism (I'm not, I'm not anti-feminist either). Why would they be dismissive of men's concerns in favor of a feminist narrative. They're really male feminists, who like most feminists, think that men's problem's are their own doing: toxic masculinity. That's fine, but it's a one trick pony. I feel like the toxic masculinity narrative is worn out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 08:26 PM
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Women, generally speaking, aren't taken as seriously as men. The Dobbs decision that removed protection for abortion was bad, bad, bad. Doctors do have a tendency to dismiss women's pain. Women are expected to do more domestically than men. Women are subjected to sexual harassment more often than men Men, are expected to be completely independent an never ask for help. Men cannot unilaterally avoid parenthood post-conception. Men are more likely to be viewed as a threat, and are more likely to b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/24 07:38 PM
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I like the gender neutral approach. That way women can understand how inconvenient and insulting the rules might be if they have to follow them too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/24 04:18 PM
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It's all spelled out right here. https://www.reddit.com/r/rbomi/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/24 03:21 PM
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I like LefWingMaleAdvocates. In fighting between legitimate male advocacy subs is not in our favor. MensLib is another matter.
/r/MensRights03/07/24 01:31 PM
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As long as the criteria for who is assigned to the front-line or support jobs is gender neutral, it's a victory.
/r/MensRights20/06/24 05:04 PM
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I don't understand how someone can experience being tied up and helplessly lying their as their significant other hacks off their penis and reasonably think that person is a wonderful, loving woman who loves me. This is some Stockholm syndrome bullshit.
/r/MensRights16/05/24 09:10 PM
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Okay, I'm reading and re-reading and re-reading. How is this emasculating?
/r/MensRights10/05/24 09:15 PM
9

"Bears aren't aggressive and will usually avoid people." That's fine, Why then use them as a comparison? The purpose of this question is to generalize men as unpredictable, violent and predatory.
/r/MensRights02/05/24 03:51 PM
5

It seems like it's trying to justify, deflect, rationalize and/or trivialize women's violence towards men in relationships. It's also old, so maybe (hopefully) this is an outdated perspective on IPV/DV.
/r/MensRights26/04/24 04:23 PM
3

No one should be hitting anyone else. If you are a woman and you hit a man, you should expect to get hit back. Thinking otherwise is hypocritical. If you get hit by another person, regardless of what gender you are, you should only hit back in defense, not retaliation. If you aren't in danger or under attack, you should deal with it through the legal system.
/r/MensRights10/04/24 11:38 AM
18

I totally get it. Your partner says, "hey, you should support my right to get an abortion. It's in your interest." You say, "how is it in my best interest?" Your partner says, "Because, if I can't get an abortion and you get me pregnant, then you'll be a father." -- how does that play out? -- You say, "well what if I want you to have a baby?" Your partner says, "well that's not your choice." You say, "Ok, how is this in my interest then?" ----------------------------------------- You say, "Good,…
/r/MensRights10/04/24 03:43 AM
4

Most social spaces I've been have been mixed gender or more male oriented, however, there was still an issue within our left-wing circles where someone would say something really generalist, absolutist, or just downright threatening about men, and it was clear that men - and sometimes women - in the room were uncomfortable, but didn't feel they could say anything. So I always did my best to speak out in those situations. That's awesome.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/24 04:22 PM
5

The notion, "men are dangerous" is probably hammered into their heads. They see a USMC bicep tattoo on a muscular man and they probably assume that your are aggressive and violent. It sucks.
/r/MensRights27/03/24 05:02 PM
1

Sexism isn't truth, it's the opposite. It's judging people on what genitalia they were born with when it's not relevant. It's illogical. I'm just too old to not call it like I see it. Said by every ignorant bigot who was ever born.
/r/MensRights27/03/24 04:36 PM
1

Yeah, I have to say that's incredibly uncommon, most jobs I work at have absolute garbage quality workers. Management are either so far removed or so afraid of firing people, or those people are immune to firing (many countries outside the US don't have the right to just auto fire people). All of our developers are quality workers. Management have often overruled hires in my experience because they were girls, which is better for the company image and championing diversity. I've been overruled t…
/r/MensRights27/03/24 02:11 PM
1

I've been in tech for along time and, unfortunately 70% of all engineers (men and women) are utterly unqualified.
/r/MensRights27/03/24 02:03 PM
1

The same thing would occur when you keep seeing diversity hires. If every time you meet a female programmer it turns out they barely know how to use a computer nevermind program, when you meet the next programmer you're going to think the same thing. At best, you'll take a noble approach of trying not to jump to conclusions but you'll fighting your instincts the whole time. If one of our developers couldn't perform the duties associated with their role, we would let them go. It is our responsibi…
/r/MensRights27/03/24 02:00 PM
2

I think your notion of 'truth' is fucked up.
/r/MensRights27/03/24 01:53 PM
1

I never said anything about treating men and women differently. The guy I responded to did. He said 'Women don't belong...' Why didn't you respond to him?
/r/MensRights27/03/24 01:51 PM
1

No. However, if there were two candidates that were very close, we would have hired the woman. I'm not in charge of the QA department, but I think if we had two candidates for the QA department that were very close, we would hire a man.
/r/MensRights27/03/24 01:51 PM
3

I never heard of the Prim Reaper. I like her. Smart and knowledgeable. She's like the opposite of Pearly Things (ugh). I'll be listening to more of her!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/24 08:40 PM
8

Have you ever seen pictures of what Google looked like back when they first started? It looked like a fun place to work, not a stuffy corporate mess of rules where you get called to the office for having an offensive Dilbert comic on the wall. Google believe it or not had illegal parties in the office with hookers and cocaine. They didn't go to jail for that. It must have been a tight nit group. That was back when Google was just a really good search engine with a singular focus of getting peopl…
/r/MensRights26/03/24 08:09 PM
4

I like r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates.
/r/MensRights26/03/24 03:53 PM
3

This is me https://politiscales.party/results?dDE9MzMmdDA9MTAmajA9MzMmajE9MTcmbTE9MjQmbTA9NDMmczA9NjImczE9MTcmYzE9MTkmYzA9NDAmZTA9MjkmZTE9MzgmYjA9NDAmYjE9MjEmZmVtaT0xOSZjb21wPTY3JnAwPTI5JnAxPTQ4JnByYWc9Njc= It describes me as a pragmatist: Pragmatist Politics objectively boils down to looking at where the problems are and trying to solve them according to the means available. Personally, I'm a little left of center. I used to be right of center, but I moved left after the Iraq war. I struggle to…
/r/MensRights26/03/24 03:53 PM
3

I've heard that one before. I mean, are you really getting dressed up for my benefit? How do I benefit? It's a first date, we're likely not having sex. So, this is just for the privilege of being able to look at you? The waiter looked at you too, is he going to chip in? There were two guys at the table next us. I could swear one of them side eyed you. Could he maybe pick up our drinks?
/r/MensRights26/03/24 02:08 PM
11

I don't think all feminists are against men. However, there are a lot of them that are, even if the don't admit it to themselves. For example, when men talk about the suicide rate (men make up 75% of deaths due to suicide world wide), Feminists almost always respond: "But women attempt twice as often". That is a whataboutism, and a false equivalency. How can you compare an attempt at suicide with a successful one? It's so dismissive of an alarming issue that primarily affects men. When men talk …
/r/MensRights25/03/24 08:36 PM
9

You're right, it doesn't state that men cannot be victims of domestic violence. However, it trivializes it (literally...see below) When women use violence in an intimate relationship, the circumstances of that violence tend to differ from when men use violence. Men’s use of violence against women is learned and reinforced through many social, cultural and institutional experiences. Women’s use of violence does not have the same kind of societal support. Many women who do use violence against the…
/r/MensRights25/03/24 08:00 PM
1

It's feminists creating a study on whether feminists hate men. Surprise: their conclusion is. Furthermore if you disagree with us, you're a misogynist. "Feminists hate men, women most affected."
/r/MensRights25/03/24 03:32 PM
6

Thanks for responding!
/r/MensRights25/03/24 03:22 PM
1

Great podcast.
/r/MensRights22/03/24 07:19 PM
29

"Our" behavior? Collective guilt bullshit. I don't do anything to make them have to adjust their behavior.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/24 02:29 PM
1

I saw that. ffs.
/r/MensRights13/03/24 10:02 PM
1

I don't believe that one gender or sex is innately better than the other.
/r/MensRights11/03/24 03:57 PM
60

The problem with the statement "Misandry is a response to misogyny" is that misandry is the hatred of men, not the hatred of misogynists.
/r/MensRights08/03/24 03:40 PM
5

Gamma Bias.
/r/MensRights05/03/24 09:29 PM
1

Menslib is ok, but it's not men's advocacy. They tend to believe that for men to address their issues, that men themselves change to adapt to the new world we live in. That seems to make sense. Additionally, they tend to believe that for women to address their issues, the world must change to adapt to women's expectations. Wait, what?
/r/MensRights05/03/24 03:21 PM
1

Well, a power greater than yourself. You don't actually have to believe in it either. You just have to be willing to believe.
/r/MensRights02/03/24 01:56 AM
2

Go to an AA meeting. If anybody is going to care, they will.
/r/MensRights01/03/24 11:47 PM
8

He's respected and he's advocating for men and boys in a way that's not "pull yourself up for your own bootstraps, stop whining" like feminists do. I like that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/24 02:03 PM
11

You should watch the entire clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTHEznqYSMQ start at around 37 minutes Both Feminists women engage in whataboutisms horribly and constantly try to derail the discussion.
/r/MensRights29/02/24 04:00 PM
3

I can see how she avoids jail: post partum depression and baby didn't have lasting injury. Does she still have custody.? That baby should NOT be in her care.
/r/MensRights28/02/24 09:35 PM
1

If I were single again, no. I wouldn't date a broke woman. She wouldn't need to make as much as me, but she would need to have enough money to pay her own way. Most of my income over the past 20 years has gone to someone besides myself. That's fine, but I've put in my time. My kids are almost grown and I need to focus on the rest of my career and retirement. Having to foot the bill for someone else is simply going to reduce my quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:16 PM
2

Why is a relative high income an acceptable expectation for you to have for them, but not an acceptable expectation for them to have of you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:05 PM
1

If you can attract a man that makes more than you, that's great. Chances are you're younger than him, better looking than him, more charming...something to offset that. The expectation however that you are entitled to a man that makes more than you, with all other things being equal, IS hypocritical if you believe in equal pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:08 PM
1

I'm happily married. I've been married for 20 years, although not all of that has been happy. We've had our ups and downs. I don't think there's a such thing as a perfect partnership. I don't think my partnership is perfect now. We both have things we constantly have to work on. We care about each other and trust each other. We both love our children. We're a family, that's it.
/r/MensRights22/02/24 03:21 PM
4

I don't think feminists generally hate men either. However, I do not believe feminists have a generally positive view of men. That contradicts everything I hear from feminists and Feminism. How can you have a generally positive view of someone you consider your oppressor?
/r/MensRights21/02/24 10:16 PM
8

I mostly call myself an MRA. I used to avoid using that label, because of the negative connotations. MRA's have a negative connotation because society currently cannot accept male advocacy. So, I have decided to associate myself with the label out of defiance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/24 07:01 PM
1

Which is what actually counts. Is it where it actually counts? I hear what you are saying. It sounds like, behind closed doors, and in the legal brief, they are acknowledging this as a men's issue. I really should feel good about that, and in some ways, I am. Why can't organizations feel like they can advocate for men publicly? Why is the current zeitgeist so anti-male ( or at least antipathetic towards men). What bothers me is that civil rights organizations can't even pretend to care about the…
/r/MensRights10/02/24 05:00 AM
1

Not in the article.
/r/MensRights09/02/24 06:32 PM
1

To me did, consider the following: Like many laws that appear to benefit women, men-only registration actually impedes women’s full participation in civic life. Limiting registration to men sends a message that women are unqualified to serve in the military, regardless of individual capabilities and preferences. And here Limiting draft registration to men also devalues the contributions of women who serve in the military. That’s why military women’s organizations like the Service Women’s Action …
/r/MensRights09/02/24 06:06 PM
1

Then why summarize it a harmful to women?
/r/MensRights09/02/24 05:20 PM
162

How do we fix it though? Through moderation? I agree with what you're saying, but I don't want this sub to become MensLib either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/24 09:59 PM
0

MRAs and Feminists believe in equality for both genders. MRAs and Feminist disagree on the present state. Feminists describe society as a patriarchy. They also categorize men as oppressors and women as oppressed. MRAs describe society an gynocentric. This means that society is set up to protect and cater to women over men (no oppressor-oppressed gender dichotomy, though). My biggest issue isn't with Feminism, it's with feminists. With all of the denial about how feminists aren't misandrists, the…
/r/MensRights08/02/24 06:13 PM
2

None of this has anything to do with MRM.
/r/MensRights08/02/24 04:27 PM
1

It's not normal. This shit can happen to men or women. Women may get away with it more, but I don't know that for sure. Acknowledging your partner's contributions and efforts in a marriage is critical to a happy marriage. Mutual respect is also very important. I'm not telling you to get a divorce, but if these two things are as bad as you say, your marriage is failing.
/r/MensRights08/02/24 02:35 PM
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If you read the article, the ACLU frames it as harmful to women, and that's their focus. They went out of their way to mention how they oppose NCFM on most things. I'm glad they're joining the fight, don't get me wrong. It rubs me the wrong way that they justify doing so because it benefits women. When will organizations like the ACLU feel comfortable addressing issues that are harmful to men, without feeling the need to frame them as also harmful to women?
/r/MensRights07/02/24 05:59 PM
9

Collective historical guilt is dumb
/r/MensRights07/02/24 05:34 PM
1

I'm married and I don't go down on her and I don't expect her to go down on me...we both don't like it: equality.
/r/MensRights06/02/24 08:15 PM
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Young men need to learn to look out for themselves. When I was young, I made too many concessions in my life in pursuit of a girlfriend/partner/wife. In the long run, I don't think it actually helped me get one. I also affected by the "women are wonderful" effect. If the message from the Red Pill to young men is: "Women aren't wonderful, they're human. Stop putting them on a pedestal, they are not the answer to your problems." -- that's great. If the message is "Women are evil and cannot be trus…
/r/MensRights06/02/24 06:47 PM
2

True. I probably don't give online friendships the respect they deserve. I have friends online, but they were all originally people I knew in person. On the other hand, I work with people remotely all the time and there are some "online only" coworkers that I have had really strong friendships with.
/r/MensRights06/02/24 05:00 PM
13

Yeah, it already feels good talking about this on reddit. I'm glad it's helping, but social media is no replacement for family and friends.
/r/MensRights05/02/24 10:58 PM
0

One child will cost him 20% of his net income in child support. He may do more, but that's the extent of his legal liability. That's a burden, but to characterize it as decades of bankruptcy is hyperbole.
/r/MensRights05/02/24 10:15 PM
1

Really, and leave your family behind? I could be wrong, but I think never seeing his parents again would be worse than paying child support. If he takes a paternity test and the child is his, it's not paternity fraud. I don't think fleeing the country is the answer. I think if everyone took a paternity test, paternity fraud would end...all without leaving our loved ones behind.
/r/MensRights05/02/24 10:01 PM
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Do not sign a birth certificate without a paternity test. If you don't want to be a parent, you should let her know. On the other hand, if it's yours and she decides to keep the baby then you'll be subject to paying child support. Unfortunately, we as men don't have legal parental surrender, so that's the law Once you know it's yours, you're going to want to let your family know. It may seem like the end of the world, but it's not. You have family, you are not alone. You will have to live with j…
/r/MensRights05/02/24 09:48 PM
7

I don't think it's white supremacy either. If the notion is white people are superior, then why penalize non-whites for performing white coded things? Aren't these attitudes towards conforming white cultural norms really a non-white cultural reaction to white supremacy rather than white supremacy itself. IOW, "stop acting white" is something a black person would hear from another black to stop them from acting like their oppressors. I mean, white people don't tell black people to "stop acting wh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/24 08:37 PM
1

They are calling her a pedophile, simply because she is an adult and he is a minor. It's not though. You have to be at least 16 years old and 5 years older than a pre-pubescent child in order for it to be pedophilia. Since he is 15 years old, he's not pre-pubescent, so it's not pedophilia. I don't know why you're so hung up on this. Regardless of what you might call it, a woman who is 21 years old has no business having sex with a 15 year old boy. Furthermore, to accuse him of rape is absurd. In…
/r/MensRights05/02/24 05:00 PM
1

Well, it's technically not pedophilia. It is statutory rape.
/r/MensRights05/02/24 04:46 PM
1

I don't think you understand the article, at least I hope not. The 15yr old boy and the 21 yr old woman snuck off to elope (as the article states). They got a hotel room and had sex (consensually). Because they did not get married, he's guilty of rape. That's what "pretext of marriage" means. In India, if a male has intercourse with a female and promises matrimony, it's considered rape. So you agree with this?
/r/MensRights05/02/24 04:20 PM
26

I wish the media would stop using support for Andrew Tate as an indicator for support for men's rights activism. They aren't the same thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/24 07:58 PM
7

The breadwinner was able to advance in his or her career, because of the sacrifices that the homemaker stayed home to take care of the kids. The homemaker should be entitled to a share of the profits that the breadwinner was able to earn because of the sacrifices that the homemaker made. The home maker did share in the profits the breadwinner earned. They shared in the conveniences and pleasures that their partner's income provided while they were married and they are sharing in surplus in wealt…
/r/MensRights26/01/24 10:42 PM
4

employment insurance in canada only lasts 45weeks at MAX because "its enough time to find a job" In Canada, can you collect unemployment if you haven't been employed (SAHP)? I am not entirely against alimony, but I have no effing idea why that thing could last more than a decade. Preach!
/r/MensRights26/01/24 08:35 PM
9

I'm not necessarily against alimony, especially when it's just temporary spousal support. First of all, without children, it makes absolutely no sense to me. One person, for no discernable reason, hasn't been working. Why? Probably because they didn't have to (i.e. their partner makes enough for both of them). That benefit should end with marriage. I simply do not believe that one partner is entitled to live off the other once the marriage has been dissolved. Stay at home parents are a different…
/r/MensRights26/01/24 08:33 PM
8

It's so funny that she's being described as the victim.
/r/MensRights26/01/24 04:18 PM
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"Spejcher’s lawyers claimed she was “involuntarily intoxicated” when she killed Chad O’Melia, insisting he pressured her into taking a third hit from a bong. The then-32-year-old fell into “drug-induced, dissociative fugue-like state” after an adverse reaction to the weed and stabbed Chad O’Melia repeatedly before turning the knife on herself, according to WKRC. Spejcher also stabbed her dog." Involuntarily intoxicated? WTF?! So it was his fault she killed him after he "pressured" her into takin…
/r/MensRights24/01/24 07:59 PM
45

Of course, Jonathan Majors is facing up to a year in jail for just trying to get his phone back from his girlfriend and accidentally injuring her in the process.
/r/MensRights24/01/24 07:47 PM
1

Don't get married to anyone you haven't been in a relationship with for a few years. Don't marry anyone you don't trust and respect. Continue to treat them respectfully after you are married. You must risk much in life and marriage is no different. Continue to be self-reliant, before the wedding and after. Don't expect divorce, but be prepared for it.
/r/MensRights22/01/24 09:00 PM
0

Geez, there's a lot of woman hating in these responses. Ok, here's my theory, it is more socially acceptable for a woman to ask for a divorce than a man. It runs along the same thing as IPV/DV: what did he do? We assume failure in marriages are caused by men. If a woman asks for a divorce, the man will get blamed. If a man asks for a divorce, the man will get blamed. Men are better off trying to avoid divorce.
/r/MensRights21/01/24 04:05 PM
3

I get mixed reactions from my wife. We don't agree on everything, and that's ok. She doesn't consider herself a feminist, though. She does seem to think that Feminists are typically anti-men. On the other hand, she's all about women's empowerment and gender equality. She loves many of the avatars of women's empowerment (Rosie The Riveter and Wonder Woman ). She just dislikes all the male bashing. She has a generally positive view of men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/24 03:45 PM
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Define successful marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:09 PM
45

Similarly: "Men should be feminists and should help fight for injustices that women suffer" "I don't understand why men expect women to fix their problems for them. Do we have to do everything? They should build their own shelters"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/24 06:48 PM
1

Great video.
/r/MensRights10/01/24 02:50 PM
1

Yea, but it limits your risk to get paternity tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:14 PM
2

Or get a paternity test. What's all the fuss about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:12 PM
38

Wow, that was a punch in the gut.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/24 04:33 PM
20

Yea, I think if you identify and live as a male, then you fit into male advocacy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/24 03:24 PM
-1

Is there a gender double standard when it comes to violence perpetration? Yes. Does it "equality" make it OK to punch a woman back if she hits me? No. Can I punch a woman if it seems like the only option to disrupt an ongoing attack? Yes. Should I go post this really poorly worded question on r/AskFeminists, so I can get all bent out of shape from the responses? However you want to spend your time is up to you. Framed poorly, this question just makes us MRAs look juvenile. My guess is most peopl…
/r/MensRights08/01/24 06:05 PM
4

That's really weak
/r/EverydayMisandry06/01/24 02:38 PM
4

And how is this misandry?
/r/EverydayMisandry06/01/24 12:43 PM
8

How is this misandry? This has nothing to do with men.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/01/24 05:06 AM
2

Totally agree.
/r/MensRights05/01/24 04:53 AM
-2

This tweet is kind of bullshit, right? Wasn't she talking about one of documentaries, not Star Wars. This was Matt Walsh stirring stuff up in order to excite his following.
/r/MensRights04/01/24 11:19 PM
1

They do. I upvoted the original comment calling that out.
/r/MensRights04/01/24 11:17 PM
5

Sounds like you're trying to extrapolate this into some general criticism of men's rights. Many of issues that uniquely affect men are real, not imagined. I'm not sure what you mean by this comment, but I thought I would take the opportunity to make my perspective on that clear - seeing that this sub is about men's rights.
/r/MensRights04/01/24 08:17 PM
2

Really? Thanks for sharing that. It changes my opinion.
/r/MensRights04/01/24 08:06 PM
4

Oh, so the new Star Wars is about domestic violence?
/r/MensRights04/01/24 04:58 PM
5

Why is it so important for men to feel uncomfortable?
/r/MensRights04/01/24 03:30 PM
1

I'm going to get downvoted, but I'm going to say most of what is in that video is just playful, except for the last one. I have engaged with some of that behavior (and visa versa) with my wife and children. I play punch my daughter and she play punches me ALL THE TIME. (for some reason, my son's not as much into it). Neither of us is mad at the other, she's typically giggling when it happens. I'll say something derogatory about K-POP bands and she'll smack me for it. It doesn't hurt, it's not me…
/r/MensRights03/01/24 04:46 PM
1

Exactly!! I was taught to never hit a woman. I was actually taught to dodge, evade and cower in order instead of retaliating in any kind.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/23 03:45 AM
35

If I see a woman who is being assaulted, I'll call the police. I'm not putting my life in danger for a stranger, man or woman. If it's my family (wife, son and daughter), I'll put myself at risk.
/r/MensRights29/12/23 10:09 PM
6

Duluth model categorically and systematically ignore Not to be pedantic, but the Duluth model doesn't ignore the existence male victims. The Duluth model trivializes existence male victims. Do women use violence as often as men in intimate relationships? When women use violence in an intimate relationship, the circumstances of that violence tend to differ from when men use violence. Men’s use of violence against women is learned and reinforced through many social, cultural and institutional expe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/23 02:25 PM
10

Male sexuality is demonized as selfish and predatory.
/r/MensRights29/12/23 02:13 PM
1

"House work is women's work" I'm an MRA and I agree with women and feminists: that's bullshit. Use a dish, clean a dish...regardless of gender...it's that simple. Conscription, Title IX, paternity fraud, double standards with regards to IPV/DV/SA, hypergamy...so many more legitimate (in my opinion) grievances to focus on.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/12/23 04:36 PM
1

Ok, how is this misandry? This looks more like misogyny.
/r/EverydayMisandry27/12/23 02:59 PM
10

I'll be honest, I mainly focus on double standards in the law and believe that a 'person' (Gender shouldn't matter) should do X amount of years for x crime. That's me too. I really for equal rights. There are things, due to biology, that uniquely affect men and women. However, for the most part, men and women should be treated the same. I don't have a problem with egalitarian aspects of Feminism (women should get paid the same, have the same access to the same things, should be valued the same).…
/r/MensRights26/12/23 07:49 PM
-1

I understand this sentiment, and quite honestly, I feel this way sometimes. Still, I have a wife and a daughter. If either of them gets pregnant, I want them to be able to terminate their pregnancy, if they choose. I have a son. I would like him to be able to both have sex, if he chooses to, and enter into parenthood willingly. I expect him to practice common sense and responsibility with sex and birth control. If birth control fails, I would like him to have an option, post conception, to be ab…
/r/MensRights21/12/23 04:04 PM
6

My wife and I sleep in different bedrooms. We both snore.
/r/MensRights21/12/23 03:56 PM
1

Just because you feel attracted does not mean you have to act on it. Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:00 PM
1

You can believe that and still not identify as a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:11 PM
6

The father will have to pay child support. That's happening already.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 09:02 PM
16

No harm? A 33 year old woman and a 14 year old boy? I have a son and I disagree. Boys aren't bulletproof. Boys are affected by sex. What happens if she gets pregnant?
/r/MensRights19/12/23 08:41 PM
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The main point was that the differential in pay, which only appears among married men and women, does not indicate any difference in power, when you look at consumer spending statistics. And...that's a fair point.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 08:38 PM
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I guess that's why they call it statuatory r @ pe . Can a 14 year old, legally speaking, give consent. I feel certain would be called r @ pe if the genders were reversed.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 07:11 PM
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That normalist (wuh?!) and I'm offended. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:13 PM
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How many times does this have to happen before we call it what it is: r @ pe.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 05:53 PM
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I'm married man and I have women friends and my wife is totally cool with it. For example, I'm a cyclist and I ride with a group 2 to 3 times a week. One of the cyclists, who is a married woman, is close to my cycling fitness level. As a result, we tend to ride together, often just the two of us, on long (100 mile) rides. It's totally platonic and my wife and her husband don't mind. On those rides, we talk about stuff. We have become friends. There is a woman who is a mentor for me in my career …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:31 PM
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The picture becomes a little more clear when you factor in a couple more statistics. Women collect over 85% of the money from social services, and men pay over 75% of the taxes that go into those social services. Preach! Also, over 90% of alimony and child support payments go from men to women. Add in the fact that women do over 80% of the spending, and it starts to seem like men are literally subsidizing women in this country Alimony? Totally agree. Child support? I'm a dad. I believe that if y…
/r/MensRights19/12/23 04:34 PM
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If we are a patriarchy, how come women have so much control over how money is spent? If men dominated women, wouldn’t they control the money? Absolutely. I think this is a way better framing for this statistic.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 04:27 PM
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This argument is meant to emphasize the physical power imbalance between men and women. On the surface, it's compelling. However, the point of gender symmetry is not to minimize how women (or men) suffer from IPV/DV. The point is that society cannot solve the problem of domestic violence if it only addresses the problem of male perpetration and only provides help to female victims. For one, a reformed male DV perpetrator that returns to a household that was mutually abusive is going to still exp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/23 03:48 PM
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So, to be honest, I wonder how important that statistic is. Women make the decision in the purchases of 94% of home furnishings…92% of vacations…91% of homes… 60% of automobiles…51% of consumer electronics This aligns with my experience. My wife buys our furniture and plans our vacations. So what? I use the furniture and I go on the vacations. She's not doing it out of selfishness. I work more, it's less for me to worry about. I'm glad she does this for us (the family). Look, the fact that most …
/r/MensRights19/12/23 02:13 PM
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I think the jury got it wrong. I don't know if he did or didn't do anything, but the state's evidence didn't meet the "beyond reasonable doubt" requirement, in my opinion. Her testimony had too many inconsistencies and there was certainly doubt about her ability to recall what occurred since she was passed out on the closet floor.
/r/MensRights19/12/23 02:14 AM
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When men face issues, on the other hand, it gets invalidated with quotes like “if you’re used to privilege a loss of privilege can feel like being disadvantaged” and often blamed collectively or individualistically on men. I was about to say this, but I thought I would read first to see if someone else did first. This is exactly how I feel every time this phrase is used.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 05:31 PM
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I'm married and my wife would never do that (it's just not in her nature). I would probably get divorced from such a person. I can't imagine a person would do this and be a good partner at the same time.
/r/MensRights18/12/23 03:52 PM
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I don't observe the same hate IRL at all as compared to online. However, I agree that men and women generally hating each other is bad and I go out of my way to refrain from making generalized statements about women online (and in IRL). In fact, I'm pro-choice and I spent Saturday morning with my wife and daughter protesting the Texas Supreme Court ruling that prevented Katie Cox from getting an abortion. It doesn't have to be so tribal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/23 03:34 PM
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Yea, well, like I said...I'm a non-feminist. So, I'm not gonna defend feminists either. I would say that it's just bad PR for us to focus on being anti-feminist. Just my opinion.
/r/MensRights16/12/23 04:07 PM
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Yea, that was rhetorical question, lol. It doesn't come across very well in comments. Diversity is an aggregate judgement. Staff at a company, for example , may be considered diverse or not diverse based on how it corelates with the demographic profile of the community it resides in or serves. Labeling an individual as diverse or non-diverse is nonsensical. Claiming to avoid hiring 'non-diverse' candidates away of trying to seem inclusive while behaving in a discriminatory manner (excluding whit…
/r/MensRights15/12/23 04:39 PM
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Wow, they came out and said, "It's because you're a man." I am sooo glad that wasn't me. I'm afraid I would have become unhinged and belligerent.
/r/MensRights15/12/23 04:09 PM
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Totally. I identify as an MRA and I immediately get railed at. I still do it. I really can't avoid it. I believe that society needs to start supporting collective action to address men's issues. That makes me a men's rights activist (although I really prefer advocate). I don't hate women. I have a wife and a daughter, but I also have a son. I don't consider myself an anti-feminist. I'm not a feminist either, so I'm a non-feminist. I don't argue against women's rights. I argue against the dismiss…
/r/MensRights15/12/23 03:34 PM
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What the hell is a "non-diverse" candidate?
/r/MensRights15/12/23 02:38 PM
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The case has only been going on for a little over a week. I'm only following the court case. LOL, nah. I'll speak on whatever topic suits me. You're kinda bossy, aren't you? Telling me what narratives I'm supposed have, and when I'm supposed to speak or be quiet. Why don't you go police someone else.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 05:51 PM
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With no audio and little context, if it's that obvious to you then, in my opinion, you have some confirmation bias.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 05:28 PM
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The driver of the uber said that she was the primary aggressor and he was trying to remove himself from the situation. I've been following this on legal bytes and I don't remember hearing this. Not question it, I just didn't hear. It's possible I was distracted. We need to stop with the women are children narrative. Some basic level of accountability is needed. Who is "we"? I'm for truth and justice. I oppose DV/IPV regardless of the gender of the perpetrator or the victim. I'm not going to side…
/r/MensRights14/12/23 05:27 PM
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Why would she run after her abuser Abusive relationships are weird and can be kind of "Stockholm syndrom"-ish. I'm not saying that Jonathan Majors is abusive, but her running after him after the incident isn't a slam dunk on the prosecutions case. The video of her at the bar after she allegedly had a fractured finger and the fact that she was passed out in the closet after a blackout are more problematic for the prosecutions case.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 03:36 PM
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It's hard to tell because what going on because there's no context. If she is infringing on your parenting time, she's not keeping her side of the co-parenting agreement. Tell her to stop victimizing you and then it will be easier for you to stop "playing" the victim.
/r/MensRights14/12/23 12:07 AM
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That's a slogan, not a definition.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 04:06 PM
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I don't know why you're getting downvoted. This is a definitively reasonable perspective.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 04:05 PM
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I would date a non-misandrist feminist. I probably would not date what you describe. To me, attributing all of men's problems to the Patriarchy is the same as dismissing them. It's the same as saying, "If everyone becomes a feminist, maybe one of these days we can start addressing men's issues" It's trickle down equality.
/r/MensRights13/12/23 04:01 PM
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Coddling is treating someone in a indulgent and overprotective manner. NOBODY CODDLES MEN. We aren't protected at all. We are typically the first to die and the last to be mourned.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/23 03:24 PM
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Your entire response is about me. Why? You seem compelled to do battle with someone. Which does bring up the question of who's side you are on. This sounds like your trying to figure out if I'm an enemy or not. I'm done. Go yell at Feminists or something.
/r/MensRights10/12/23 10:10 PM
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So, if Feminists are engaged in creating more problems for men, then to get that movement to change completely and start helping men instead seems very unlikely. We should stop trying and focus on fixing our own issues. So apparently you think these things should stand and men should not be concerned about them. I don't know why you're trying to make an enemy of out me. Feminists aren't going to undo these things.
/r/MensRights10/12/23 05:43 PM
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Not even the ones they caused directly? Yes, even ones they caused directly. In my opinion, pointing fingers at feminists doesn't do anything for us. To me, all of men's issues are for society to solve, feminists won't solve them. Even the ones like VAWA, Title IX and the Duluth Model which were created by feminists.
/r/MensRights09/12/23 11:13 PM
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I don't want to minimize any suicide regardless of gender. If suicide by a given gender, however, is an indicator of an imbalance of power, well...it's clear to me that we do not live in a patriarchy.
/r/MensRights08/12/23 07:49 PM
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I personally don't have a problem with all the "hot date" jokes. It's the, "what did he do?" and "he must of deserved it" comments that show how little regard society has for men.
/r/MensRights08/12/23 04:28 PM
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I don't necessarily blame feminists for the existence men's issues. I don't expect feminists to solve men's issues. Most of them are social issues and are the responsibility of society to solve. As members of society, I hope feminists would feel compelled to support collective action to solve men's issues. I don't think feminists should to drive collective action. I do blame feminists when they are dismissive of men's issues. I wish feminists would acknowledge men's issues and the need for colle…
/r/MensRights07/12/23 09:23 PM
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Feminism's call to action is that men are privileged in society and women are oppressed. Many feminists feel that acknowledging that men suffer injustices because of their gender undermines this notion.
/r/MensRights06/12/23 03:17 PM
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She’s genuinely a fantastic person. I’m not in love with her for no reason. It’s just this one thing that pisses me off so badly. I’ll try talking to her again but I doubt it’ll help. Ideally, you both should be working and playing roughly the same amount (work+domestic duties). If you want to be a good partner, shoot for a little more than your share. *\* A LITTLE *\* If the good outweighs the bad then stick around. Tell her what you are willing to do and stick to that. You don't have to fix he…
/r/MensRights05/12/23 03:51 PM
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Great insights. You should make this a separate post.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/23 03:44 PM
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56, Software Architect
/r/MensRights02/12/23 03:36 PM
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Yea, Mark Greene is a male feminist. I've read his stuff and commented on it in Medium and he's blocked me for it. He says he's trying to help men out of the "man box", but his content is mostly demonizing men and advocating for women. He's talks about dominance culture, man box and stuff. I don't think he's helping. He wrote: The Little #MeToo Book for Men... I mean really?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/23 10:23 PM
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Don't rush into a new relationship. You'll just bring all of your troubles and you're likely to find yourself in another abusive relationship. Fire your therapist and find another one. Keep doing that until you find one who makes sense to you. Try to forgive your ex and your friends. Not for them, but for yourself. Resentment kills, get that poison out. The pain won't go away, it's part of you now. It's part of your experience. You need to find a way to live with it. Once you do that, it stops b…
/r/MensRights29/11/23 07:27 PM
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I'm from Texas, so voting conservative means I vote for Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Greg Abbott, John Cornyn and Ken Paxton. Fuck that.
/r/MensRights26/11/23 09:00 PM
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Yea, but conservatives don't do that either. They just shift government spending to military, law enforcement and oil subsidies. It's still government and they are still throwing men in jail twice the rate as women for the same crime.
/r/MensRights26/11/23 08:24 PM
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Because there is more to politics then gendered issues. I'm a swing voter, and I typically vote for the candidates and policies that piss me off the least. Republicans tend to be fear mongers while Democrats tend to use shame. As far as gender politics go, Democrats support Feminism, Republicans support traditional gender roles. I hate both equally. I'm tired of having to be the primary breadwinner. I'm tired of being told to 'man up'. I'm tired of being characterized as a predator. Men pay more…
/r/MensRights26/11/23 04:32 PM
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So I stumbled upon random internet feminist that say that women have been oppressed, silenced, and marginalized since the ancient times, so men getting oppressed today is nothing compared to all the things women had endured in the history. This is a fruitless argument to have. Comparing relative oppression among groups never results in a positive outcome. It simply promotes adversarial relationships between groups (men and women) and reinforces zero-sum attitudes. Her specific comparison seems i…
/r/MensRights15/11/23 09:56 PM
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Eh, it didn't keep her from dunking on ugly guys https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EGIam-R8mjk
/r/MensRights14/11/23 02:52 PM
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It’s a reality that the movement of women into the workforce has ultimately inflated prices to the point that women have no choice but to work. Any research on this? How do you know that inflation didn't cause women to have to work in the first place? Are you saying the world would be a better place if we didn't allow women to work?
/r/MensRights14/11/23 02:47 PM
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On the other hand, with all of the appliances and services available we don't really need someone at home all the time anymore. Women deserve the ability to choose their path and navigate their lives and being able to support themselves financially gives them that. I'm all about men's rights, but I'm not a tradcon.
/r/MensRights14/11/23 02:08 PM
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I stand by my statement, notice though what I'm saying they deserve. The deserve the pursuit. I'm not willing to say a woman doesn't deserve a man that will make her happy because she's made some bad choices. If she keeps making bad choices, that man may be harder to find. She may have to reconsider what she finds attractive and <<ahem>> settle for whom she can attract. ​ If a man has a choice between a woman who made those mistakes and a woman who hasn't, the former has no right to begrudge the…
/r/MensRights13/11/23 10:38 PM
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Men financially take care of stay at home mom. That's hard to do on the average salary of a man these days. Typically, most households have two breadwinners these days.
/r/MensRights13/11/23 10:31 PM
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That's schadenfreude. It's not funny to me, it's sad. She might be happy if she just knew that there was a man, human and flawed just like her, that she could be with.
/r/MensRights13/11/23 10:24 PM
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Who is they? Women? Women and men deserve the pursuit of an enriching relationship from the opposite sex, even if they have chose poorly in the past. I just disagree with the author's framing of the problem.
/r/MensRights13/11/23 10:21 PM
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I don't think that's true. There's probably a 40-50 year old man that is short and bald that is a good man that would like to date a 37 year old single mother. She won't have anything to do with him.
/r/MensRights13/11/23 09:23 PM
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The observation in the article that women living in crime ridden criminal hell holes like Camden, NJ don't have a lot of good options - drugs and crime, not only unemployed, but not looking for work, incarcerated, no desire to commit, etc, etc, etc. She's right. Agreed, but that's not really supposed to be the premise of the article. If I saw an article title that said "Poor Minority Women That Live in High Crime Areas Have Poor Options for Marriage Partners", my response would "yea, I can see t…
/r/MensRights13/11/23 07:24 PM
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Whose criticism? Mine or hers? I'm just asking so I can better understand your post.
/r/MensRights13/11/23 07:12 PM
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I'm not really even going there. The article proposes that the reason women aren't marrying men is that men are criminals and they are abusing drugs and alcohol. And in a sense they are right, men tend to commit crime and abuse drugs and alcohol more than women. It still doesn't explain why there are so many unpartnered men that don't do either of these things. So that can't be the primary reason why women aren't marrying men.
/r/MensRights13/11/23 04:55 PM
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Maybe men are more “successful” at suicide because their intended goal is to actually kill themselves instead of trying to get attention and sympathy. I would word this differently. This does come off as insensitive and we are talking about suicide attempts. It's likely to derail the conversation altogether. Men are more successful because they choose more effective methods of suicide. Here is the way I would phrase it: I believe men use more effective means of committing suicide because they ar…
/r/MensRights13/11/23 04:35 PM
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“Money is seldom the primary reason” why mothers say they are no longer with their children’s fathers. Instead, mothers point to “far more serious” offenses: “It is the drug and alcohol abuse, the criminal behavior and consequent incarceration, the repeated infidelity, and the patterns of intimate violence that are the villains looming largest in poor mothers’ accounts of relational failure.” Yet there are many unpartnered men who are not criminals or drug offenders.
/r/MensRights13/11/23 04:30 PM
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I don't think he's saying we should make peace with Feminists. I think he's saying that we shouldn't oppose Feminism, we should oppose discrimination against men. Sometimes those are the same thing, some times it's not.
/r/MensRights13/11/23 04:01 PM
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I like how Ally Fogg concluded his takedown: I’m not for a moment suggesting that feminism should suddenly drop its struggles for women’s equality, autonomy, safety and welfare in favour of challenging male-only military conscription or setting up hostels for male abuse victims, I don’t think that is or should be feminism’s job. Nor do I think that all allegations of misandry should be considered reasonable or accurate. But I would suggest that if we want to end what Lindy calls the “endless, fr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/23 05:01 PM
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I'm with you. Making disparaging generalizations about women without qualifications is wrong. I thought this sub was about promoting men's rights. Let's do that and stop demonizing women. It simply is not in our interest.
/r/MensRights10/11/23 03:54 PM
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How someone take responsibility for their actions is a critical component of ethics. Claiming that women cannot do this is the same as saying that women cannot behave ethically. That's definitively sexist.
/r/MensRights10/11/23 03:52 PM
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Because the gender generalizations we MRAs decry when women say them about us are orders of magnitude more damaging and severe than this relatively harmless generalization made by who you responded to. Ok, you're right, some generalizations are worse than others. I'm not going to argue whether MRAs or Feminists use the most damaging generalizations. My point is that using generalizations about any demographic is wrong. Using generalizations about women and complaining about women using generaliz…
/r/MensRights08/11/23 11:06 PM
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Stop using feminist rhetoric on this sub. LOL, I don't agree with what you're implying, but I think it's funny as shit.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 10:52 PM
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What truth is it that I hate? I didn't say anything about hate.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 10:48 PM
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Uh, no, I never made that comparison. They are, however, both gender specific generalizations. "All men are monsters who should die" is more hateful and incites violence. I've seen the "#KillAllMen" hash tag, which I oppose strongly, but I've never seen the exact phrase "All men are monster who should die". I honestly think it's a small minority of women who actually believe this, others use it simply to stir up trouble. Regardless, I oppose any gender based stereotypes or generalizations, and I…
/r/MensRights08/11/23 10:42 PM
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The comment got removed by the moderator (thumbs up). What was misogynistic was the notion that a because woman are more likely to lie (which is a misogynist all by itself) their testimony should only count as half of a man's vote. That's textbook sexism.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 10:34 PM
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Thanks! I have a wife and a daughter. I am not anti-woman and I don't think I need to be to be an MRA. In fact, I'm very fond of a women. I don't even think I have to be anti-Feminist. In fact, I'm very fond of a lot of Feminists. I do think that I can criticize Feminists when they say things that I disagree with. Otherwise, I'm just trying to advocate for men. I'm know not alone, please stick around.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 10:25 PM
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This is text, so I don't know what you mean by "act". I never wrote anything about this sub being the aggressors. I did note that the OP was using a gender specific generalization, which he was. I think generalizations are wrong regardless which gender is generalizing and which gender is being generalized.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 09:45 PM
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Goddamned this is misogynistic.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 07:20 PM
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"Are all women Gaslighters?" is a gender specific generalization. I wonder how we as MRAs can use gender specific generalizations about women and then complain about unfair it is when they do it to us. So I took the plunge 6 weeks ago and met a woman and began dating her, and wouldn't you know, 2 or 3 days into the "relationship" she gaslights me for her feeling bad over a comment I made about how I'd never share my bank account with a woman again. This really offended her apparently and I spent…
/r/MensRights08/11/23 07:17 PM
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I guess I understand what you're saying. This is a men's right sub, and I'm an MRA. I'm more likely to have a perspective that aligns with men. I am not going to have a default position that a man just needs to try harder to make his wife and children happy and that will bring him happiness, at least not in a society that tends to malign men as parents, blame them for failed marriages and characterize their sexuality as predatory.
/r/MensRights07/11/23 11:39 PM
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But I don't necessarily think that's the case with OP. Sure, he's neglected himself. But to me it sounds like he's also kind of neglected his family and is only doing the bare minimum and then complaining that no one seems wildly enthusiastic to be around him. When really, he probably shouldn't be surprised. Maybe he has neglected his family, but that's not what he said. He describes himself as primary breadwinner who comes home and has contributed to domestic responsibilities, helped the kids w…
/r/MensRights07/11/23 10:38 PM
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If you act boring, others are more likely to be bored by you . I think this is the critical part where we disagree (which is fine btw, we don't have to agree). I don't think I (or anyone) should worry about being boring to others. That's a people pleasing way to think about it and it rarely works for me. I think it's better to strive to not be bored in life. Otherwise I'm constantly worried about what is interesting to others instead of what I find interesting. If you get fitter and make yoursel…
/r/MensRights07/11/23 10:20 PM
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Why direct this comment to OP when you replied to me? I don't know. I didn't mean to offend. I actually don't think OP has thought much about what his wife wants. I think he's just tried to avoid doing things she hates, but that is not at all the same as considering what she actually wants, what would make her happy, excited to see him, etc. You may be right in that he may just be avoiding what she hates. Regardless, I don't think one can make others happy any more than one can expect that other…
/r/MensRights07/11/23 09:45 PM
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Regardless, OP would be better off taking my advice purely for himself anyway, and not just for the benefit of these women. It's just a fact that my advice will (likely) also improve his relationships with his wife and daughters. So he loses nothing by attempting the strategies I suggest. Exactly!!
/r/MensRights07/11/23 09:17 PM
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Just start thinking about this from a woman's perspective. What does a wife actually want in a male partner? I like this post, except for this one statement. Stop thinking about what your wife wants for just a minute. Not forever. It sounds like you've been trying to do that for years. First, find happiness for yourself. It sounds like that is what you are missing.
/r/MensRights07/11/23 09:17 PM
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I saw that too. I'm sometimes surprised that they can be fair about some things and obtuse about others. They're just human.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/23 07:50 PM
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My homelife is reduced now to getting home from work, drinking (about half bottle wine, NOT getting drunk) and sitting on bed reading or on laptop watching TV or Youtube. My opinion: You've stopped being a person and you have become a utility for your family. It's great to be a good husband and father, but you also need to be you. Otherwise when your kids grow up and you're left at home with a woman that doesn't reciprocate (just my assessment), life is going to become empty and joyless really f…
/r/MensRights07/11/23 06:33 PM
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I don't agree. There are women dominated systems in my country (U.S.). Women dominate education and Family Courts. Title IX is used by Universities to discriminate against men. Family courts use domestic violence accusations to gain leverage against men in child custody disputes. Men get 60% longer sentences for the same crime. How is that not systemic? Men are compelled to register for selective service in the U.S. and women are not. How is that not systemic? Men lead in 9 out of the top 10 cau…
/r/MensRights07/11/23 03:43 PM
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Feminists often use "equity" instead of "equality" in order to keep moving the goal posts.
/r/MensRights07/11/23 03:40 PM
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I am not familiar with the Duluth model of domestic violence. You should look into this. It is a blatantly sexist model of domestic violence and it is based on the oppressor-oppressed dichotomy. It's pretty horrible.
/r/MensRights07/11/23 03:36 PM
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Do you agree with me, and do you think I can be an MRA, and a feminist? Sure, but your bound to be conflicted. Maybe that's a good thing. A lot of the criticism of Feminism on this sub are justified. I'm not saying there's ONLY good things, of course, some feminists are bad, but so are some MRAs. I've seen SOME misandrist things get upvoted on feminist subs. Do I agree with that, No. I've seen SOME misogynistic things get upvoted on this sub. Do I agree with that, No. That's my observation as we…
/r/MensRights07/11/23 03:31 PM
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I liked the beginning of the article. She explained how we are educated into the predator/prey dichotomy with sex, and how damaging and wrong it is. Then she asks a question: So, how can we all work together to change our collective impression of male sexuality as something that is dangerous and disgusting? Then she answers the question by telling men how to avoid unfairly being considered a predator. Why doesn't she address women and explain how they can avoid unfairly treating men like predato…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/23 08:08 PM
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I will definitely not be the enemy. I'm their loving father. I can just be sad if they follow some hateful ideological line one day. I think being a loving father is the best thing you can do to avoid that. Teach them love! I get what you're saying. I have my criticisms of Feminism too. I just don't want a gender war with my daughter. So, I'm a little restrained when I discuss gender equality with her. I do challenge some of the notions that she learns about Feminism, but I'm careful not to vill…
/r/MensRights03/11/23 03:53 PM
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I think your response to your daughters was pretty good. Don't be the enemy, not with your daughters.
/r/MensRights03/11/23 03:24 PM
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I really would love it if someone told me why, if its OK for a man to spend lots of energy on making money in their 20s that its wrong for women to do the same? It's not wrong for women to focus on their careers. However, women are not required to be successful with their careers in order to be accepted in society. Men are judge/evaluated by society on their career achievements in ways that women are not. If a man stays at home with a child while the woman goes to work, that man will lose respec…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:59 PM
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Ok, I'll bite. Like you said, there are many. What are the top 3, I think, is a personal thing. Here's my three Deaths of despair - Men consistently have higher rates of alcohol or drug related hospitalizations and deaths. Men die from suicide at disproportionally higher rates than women. Discrimination in criminal justice system - Men make up a large majority of the prison population. While men do commit the majority of crimes, they also are more likely to receive harsher penalties than women f…
/r/MensRights25/10/23 05:29 PM
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I'm a man and I approve this message :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 06:24 PM
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So a woman can't be chivalrous you think? I think that's what I mean by gendered term. Cambridge Definition A chivalrous man is polite, honest, fair, and kind toward women. Examples of usage He was polite and chivalrous and never cursed in front of her. It's very chivalrous of you to defend her but don't you think she can speak for herself? Women can be polite, kind and unselfish. Nobody considers that chivalrous. Chivalry will always about women's expectations of men's behavior. It's about men …
/r/MensRights24/10/23 05:53 PM
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That's not what Chivalry is. That's just courtesy. Chivalry is a gendered concept.
/r/MensRights24/10/23 02:59 PM
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I have been protected by another man before. Years ago when I was in my 20s, I was at a night club and I was a little drunk. I was on the dance floor and some young girl started dancing with me provocatively. Of course, I engaged with her and her boyfriend (who was bigger then me) saw us and confronted me. I put up my hands and apologized. I told him I didn't I know she was with him. He was about to throw a punch and some (even bigger) guy out of nowhere, stepped in front of me, blocked the punc…
/r/MensRights23/10/23 08:12 PM
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You can spare me the martyr act. The fact that I have no desire to keep track of every flavor of internet manosphere nonsense is not oppression. That's misandry. You are against men standing up for their gender. Apparently you think that only women should be able to do that. Really? Can you explain to me how women on Lyft being able to choose women drivers is discrimination? I would love to hear this. Because what it actually seems like is that you only care about men's issues as long as you can…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 08:02 PM
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Yeah, I'm sure there's differences that are super important to them, but realistically, red pill, black pill, candy stripe pill, incels, MRAs, PUA, MGTOW, etc, they all believe 95% of the same bullshit. I get this a lot from posters like you. If you are man and you stand up for your rights as a man, that makes you an incel (or MRA, PUA, MGTOW). mEn aLrEady hAve aLL tHe rIghTs. That's textbook misandry. Thanks for demonstrating that. Yet, going through your post history, I see that you are almost…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 07:09 PM
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You're saying "Red pillers" in this response, where you used MRAs in another response. They're not the same thing. I consider myself an MRA and I'm married and I have a son and a daughter. I'm not trying throw anything in women's faces, I'm sincerely interested in issues that uniquely affect men I mean not really, especially since dinner on a first date is becoming less common. But even if it wasn't, that still doesn't make it a legitimate problem Maybe it isn't to you, but for young men who can…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:10 PM
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It's sorta like how there are many legitimate problems facing men, yet MRAs focus on mandatory paternity testing and who pays for dinner on a first date. Those are both legitimate issues. Paternity Fraud is a legitimate problem. We expect men to support children that they create through sex, regardless of whether they planned to have a child or not. We don't hold women accountable when they deceiving men into supporting children that aren't theirs. Instead, we place the responsibility on the man…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 05:07 PM
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Instead of the demographics changing the pay, the pay changed the demographics. The industry grew, demand for IT people went up, their salary grew, and the large salary attracted more men. With regards to gender and early computing careers (from ChatGPT) Computer programming was not initially a job dominated by women. In the early days of computing, during the mid-20th century, women did play a significant role in the field, but it wasn't necessarily dominated by one gender. During World War II,…
/r/MensRights16/10/23 12:20 PM
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For both 1 & 2: attention to aesthetics. My wife and daughter are way more focused on how things look than my son and me. Not just their personal appearance, everything. It's fun. It seems like something that every woman thinks about. Men (at least the us straight, cis-gendered ones) are missing out on this, I think.
/r/MensRights11/10/23 07:59 PM
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It's gendered. It denies the possibility that women can be perpetrators and men can be victims. It uses Patriarchy Theory to explain family violence instead of psychology. It's a mess of misandry and it's used to control and punish innocent men and keep them from their children.
/r/MensRights11/10/23 04:57 PM
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I totally agree. I joined LeftWingMaleAdvocates for this reason. I don't know if I'm even really left wing. I'm certainly not right wing. I'm for gender equality and I no longer believe that is what Feminists are about. I feel that Feminists want to dismantle male privilege while keeping female privileges in place.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/23 02:35 PM
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To be fair, AskFeminists have this posted as a reoccurring topic. In their pinned post, they don't push the notion that the wage gap is due to discrimination. They push that it happens because of gender roles, just like Goldin. There's really no debate here, just different spins on the same facts. Women, in western countries, tend to make less than men because of the motherhood penalty. In fact, they post the following solution: If you think that the reason why women get paid less is because the…
/r/MensRights10/10/23 01:26 PM
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We all knew this. My guess is if you posted this article on AskFeminists, most of the posters would agree with the findings saying that that is what they have been saying all along. However, there will be posters on that sub that will continue to push the narrative that women are paid less than men for the same job, and they will still get upvoted even though it's wrong. Such is the nature of echo chambers.
/r/MensRights09/10/23 06:53 PM
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Yet men still lead women on 9 out of 10 of the top causes of death. Men's life expectancy is 6 years less than women's.
/r/MensRights09/10/23 03:22 PM
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If we keep looking for a demographic that is acceptable for us to scapegoat for all of societies ills and then we're just going to end up with another holocaust. Why can't we learn from history?
/r/MensRights09/10/23 01:17 PM
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This is progress. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
/r/MensRights03/10/23 08:26 PM
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More than 830,000 men fall victim to domestic violence every year, which means every 37.8 seconds, somewhere in America a man is battered, according to the National Violence Against Women Survey. While more than 1.5 million women are also victims, everyone -- no matter their sex --deserves help. "according to the National Violence Against Women Survey" -- I'm a little suspicious of a survey conducted by National Violence Against Women on behalf of male victims. At least they're acknowledging it.
/r/MensRights03/10/23 04:46 PM
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Hopefully they can stay on topic. Edit: Ok, I'm listening to the video while I work. I was happy to see that the panel had people that I feel are actually sympathetic to men's issues: Christine Emba - I didn't read her article, but I listened to an interview with her and Chris Williamson. I watched following an interview between Chris and George TheTinMen. She seemed genuinely concerned for men's issues in a compassionate and respectful way. I'm listening to her right now and she is criticizing …
/r/MensRights03/10/23 02:49 PM
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I don't have a problem with women. The majority of them are fine the way they are. I have a problem with some feminists. I have a problem with society and gynocentric it has become. But I don't have a problem with women. I love them. They are our partners.
/r/MensRights03/10/23 03:08 AM
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A real man is someone who identifies as male and has survived childhood and youth.
/r/MensRights02/10/23 04:37 PM
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You're right, you can always start a new meeting on your own. All you need is 2 or more people and the literature. Within the context of a group, however, the group decides which meetings they have and don't have an they usually post the schedule.
/r/MensRights29/09/23 04:11 PM
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So it’s just a group of girls who decided to hold meetings for women? Not exactly, but not far off either. Most groups have a periodic meeting, called "The group conscience". Like other meetings, this meeting has a leader. Leadership of the group conscience meeting is usually revolving and the leader only facilitates the meeting. There is an agenda, which was voted on in previous meetings. Items on the agenda can very well be what meetings the group wants have and when. If you become a regular m…
/r/MensRights27/09/23 04:33 PM
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It's actually good advice. Don't have sex with emotionally vulnerable women, you may be the target of a false accusation. It's the kind of thing your friends should be telling at a party. However, it's a little suspicious coming from a very public Feminist. It feels like she's absolving the false accuser and blaming the falsely accused.
/r/MensRights27/09/23 03:53 PM
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Each AA group is autonomous and except in matters that affect AA as a whole. There is nothing in the 12 traditions that says that groups must have or can't have men's only or women's only meetings. That is dictated by the "group conscience". I used to go to AA and the group I went to had both a men's only and a women's only meeting. Quite frankly they were the best meetings. I don't know about CODA, but my guess is that they follow the same model with regards to men's only and women's only meeti…
/r/MensRights27/09/23 03:29 PM
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I have, for the most part, stopped interacting on Feminist subs. It has been disappointing to find how callous member of that sub can be. However it does vary from topic to topic. I doubt Feminists and MRAs will ever see eye to eye on dating related stuff. So, I just don't think it's rational for Feminists to be concerned about male loneliness because the topic tends to make them defensive, because most of them are women. I have observed that on the topic of male suicide, Feminists do tend to be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/23 02:56 PM
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You seem upset. I gave you a stat and you disagreed with it because it didn't make sense with your internal bias. You didn't provide any proof. So there was no context to be pulled from. This is text. Your references to my emotional state are patronizing and condescending. Men report about 60% of both men-to-women and women-to-men violence. This is a nonsensical statement. Are you saying that men report both men-to-women violence and women-to-men violence 60% of the time. What does that even mea…
/r/MensRights27/09/23 02:24 AM
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Wow! did you just pluck "I think" and "So my guess" out of context and make an argument out of that? Anyway...from your article Some support gender symmetry in IPV, such that men and women are equally likely to perpetrate IPV; others show evidence of gender asymmetry, such that men are far more likely to be perpetrators in a violent intimate relationship. This paper reviews the literature on gender symmetry in IPV. Explanations have been suggested for the discrepancy in past findings, including …
/r/MensRights26/09/23 09:57 PM
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What are most likely cases of how and why are man killed? He just walked from work to home? He went to army? He dealed drugs or did some other kind of criminal? Because it seems that their argument is that men on purpose do some dangerous stuff and get themself killed so it's kinda their fault. It similar to the same kind of response to women's sexual assault and rape. "what were you wearing? where were you? did you put yourself in that situation? did you lead him on?" The implication is that wh…
/r/MensRights26/09/23 08:50 PM
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No, at least not in broad daylight. Maybe at night if it's just her and me. I refuse to play into this mass hysteria on women's safety. Men are 3 times more likely to be a victim of a violent crime. Women are not likely to be attacked on the street in broad daylight. Men are not likely to be falsely accused of a crime simply by being on the same sidewalk with a woman in broad daylight. I'm not saying that false accusations don't happen or are a rare occurrence. But I think it's typically going t…
/r/MensRights26/09/23 05:47 PM
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But we know women are less likely to report men-to-women violence I think there is probably more stigma with men reporting IPV/DV than women. There are many law enforcement agencies that still labor under the presumption that men cannot be abused (Duluth power wheel stuff). Men typically do not receive the same amount of support when reporting IPV/DV. Often they are referred to batter intervention instead of being treated as a victim. I think the notion that women are more shamed than men for re…
/r/MensRights26/09/23 02:18 PM
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The problem is that, according to research done by Murray Straus and many others, men and women perpetrate IP/DV at similar rates. However, the number of beds available to men worldwide is less than 1%.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 02:34 AM
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Don't expect me to do what you won't do. Don't do what you expect me not to.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 02:24 AM
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Have you watched the Diplomat (NetFlix)? Kate brutally attacks hal and it's played off as humorous.
/r/MensRights26/09/23 02:23 AM
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I'm probably going to get downvoted for this but I have a 15 year old daughter and all that seemed to make sense to me and none of it was offensive.
/r/MensRights25/09/23 08:47 PM
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I love her more than anything and our relationship is 99.5% perfect. If she feels the same way, there has to be a solution. If your day-to-day with her is typically filled with joy, then it's probably social media that is screwing with both of you. No disrespect intended. She is my favorite and only person. I have a few friends that have autism, but I don't know where you are on the spectrum. I know making new connections can be challenging for people with autism. Regardless, I think you can and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/23 04:51 PM
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Yea, and she slipped it in there: From Anita Hill testifying about Clarence Thomas’s sexual harassment in 1991 to Christine Blasey Ford reporting long-ago assaults by Brett Kavanaugh to Amber Heard even hinting at domestic violence in her marriage, women who speak up too often get punished. Blasey Ford had to go into hiding because of death threats. Even hinting? No, no, no...she wrote an op-ed on it. She wouldn't have lost the suit if she hadn't started going of script and making up shit on the…
/r/MensRights20/09/23 06:59 PM
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She's become more and more extreme in order to attract views. It's hard to defend a lot what she says anymore.
/r/MensRights19/09/23 04:37 PM
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I'm not saying we shouldn't criticize feminism, I just don't think that our opposition to feminism should define us.
/r/MensRights19/09/23 12:38 PM
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We should do the same thing with Russell as anyone else (even Lizzo), let them have their day in court. Let the legal system do it's job and let's stop cancelling everyone on an allegation alone.
/r/MensRights19/09/23 04:10 AM
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While I agree, I sometimes tire of all the ant-feminist rhetoric, I do not think we should change this subreddit. To be clear, I'm not a feminist. I'm also not an anti-feminist. I disagree with feminists only where it impacts men's rights. I am egalitarian to the core. I do not want to see this sub diverge from it's central purpose: men's rights. All of those posts that you are suggesting are not directly related to men's rights. These are examples topics that are men's rights issues. Education …
/r/MensRights18/09/23 08:22 PM
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This is just ridesharing... If it prevents harassment and violence towards women then it doesn't seem like such a big deal. This can have far reaching consequences though. How many other professions/jobs/businesses can men be excluded from in order to keep women safe? What similar services will follow suit? Door Dash? Instacart? Will women be able to go to the ER and demand a woman doctor? Will hospitals start preferring women doctors because their considered safer. Will women who provide such s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/23 04:45 PM
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I dunno, maybe cameras in the car. Dividers between the front and back seat. Panic button that alerts the police.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/23 05:40 PM
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I understand, I told my wife about it. She was like, "Yea!! I've always felt unsafe about getting an uber". Then I told her how this would affect the livelihood of male drivers and she was like, "well I didn't thing about that." My wife is a good person and she's not obsessed with culture and politics like me. Her response wasn't part of a bunch of man-hating shit, she was being genuine. I typically use her as barometer to make sure I'm not being obtuse about shit. So, I feel safety is probably …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/23 02:37 AM
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Yea, in Texas this is how they figure it out: How much would person A get if they had full custody. How much would person B get if they had full custody. The difference is what is paid in child support.
/r/MensRights16/09/23 02:29 AM
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Look, I think there is an intersection between dating and men's rights and that's what we should be exploring. Double standards, unfair expectations, when feminists seem to only be interested in abolishing gender roles that disadvantage them are examples of dating issues that are on topic for Men's Rights...IMO. Too much unfocused venting on dating woes plays into the stereotype that MRAs just need to get laid.
/r/MensRights15/09/23 02:49 PM
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The name of this sub is literally "Men's Rights"
/r/MensRights15/09/23 01:52 PM
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You shouldn't have to lie about your gender to get equal treatment.
/r/MensRights14/09/23 12:58 AM
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When companies have such biased policies, I’m all for men fighting back by identifying as women (or non-binary” Turn their woke policies against them I say. That amplifies the issue though, no? To me, the problem is that male drivers will be affected financially. I wonder how Lyft's male drivers feel about this?
/r/MensRights13/09/23 08:29 PM
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Too bad she had to make it gendered. I do think cancel culture is seriously limiting free speech. I'm just so tired of the "women have it worse" trope.
/r/MensRights13/09/23 03:10 PM
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Physically: pretty smile (nice teeth), good skin, nice hair. There are all sorts of body types and each can be appealing as long as they take care of themselves. Personality: Confident and friendly. Has a sense of humor. Mentally: Witty, clever, insightful and open minded. Values: High work ethic, compassionate and fair minded.
/r/MensRights13/09/23 02:30 PM
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I think, on an individual level, you are free to adopt the values that you feel are fair. Unless your values are radical you can find someone who shares those values. If you think that men and women should completely share the cost of dating, you can find someone who agrees with you. If this is important to you, then don't settle for anything else. Be willing to be alone until you find a person who is compatible with your worldview. Don't go on a date with someone expecting to change them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:59 PM
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A system of society or government with stipulations that that work to oppress both men and women in the modern world. No, I disagree with that definition, regardless of the gender who wrote it. That's just an oppressive society. Men and women suffer from oppression, but it's typically class oppression. If you believe western society (U.S. for example) is a patriarchy, there must be a gender component to it. The word Patriarch, implies a gendered power imbalance. I feel that you know this and you…
/r/MensRights11/09/23 09:46 PM
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I'm actually a guy lmao. Wow, really?! Wow that changes everything. Maybe we do live in a Patriarchy. I'm mean, wow, if you're a guy we must be living in a Patriarchy...it makes total sense now. /s
/r/MensRights11/09/23 08:50 PM
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I will say however that it is written by a woman and I know you don't like that sort of stuff here. Ok, so you came in here to accuse us all of being women haters. Sound familiar to you?
/r/MensRights11/09/23 08:45 PM
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If the patriarchy is bad for both men and women, is it really a patriarchy? I mean, to me the definition of patriarchy is Men hold the primary power and dominate roles of leadership in political, economic, and social spheres and women are largely excluded from it. Men use this power to men's advantage and women's disadvantage. I realize that there are more men in powerful positions, but women can and do hold positions of power and there is no current gendered legal obstacles preventing women fro…
/r/MensRights11/09/23 08:44 PM
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So much for no fault divorces?
/r/MensRights31/08/23 12:42 AM
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People are speaking up about it, and that is good, but it's not being called sexist.
/r/MensRights30/08/23 07:52 PM
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I understand prioritizing children. I don't understand deprioritizing single men. If a child needs asylum, that child typically needs a guardian. That guardian could be a man or a woman, there's no need to gender it. Secondly, if you're going to single (pun intended :) ) out people that aren't supporting a family, make it single men and women. I agree, this is just ant-male.
/r/MensRights30/08/23 07:50 PM
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I don't think calling out sexual bias against men is necessarily anti-feminist and the OP never mentioned feminists or feminism directly.
/r/MensRights29/08/23 03:13 PM
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Well, it was wrong and he should have to at least apologize or pay a fine, but it shouldn't end his career ​ PS: This was probably said a thousand times, but if the roles were reversed, nobody would give a shit Like this? https://www.instagram.com/p/CpkZdR4tnrZ/?img\_index=1
/r/MensRights29/08/23 02:15 PM
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She may be misandrist, or it could that she's your older sister and she's trying to get a rise out you. Has she actually done anything misandrist? I remember my brothers telling me all sorts of BS that they really didn't believe in order to get a reaction.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/08/23 06:31 PM
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I mentioned being in a men’s rights sub, and the feminization of his occupation You're attacking his profession in the same sentence that you mention Men's Rights. He's going to associate a lack of respect for his profession with Men's Rights. I'm not saying that you're right or wrong. I'm just saying this is an ineffective way to be persuasive.
/r/MensRights28/08/23 05:28 PM
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Hell yea. I know my wife has done it for me. I didn't even know it at the time. She has fake orgasms and everything. To be fair, we don't have sex very often anymore (maybe once a month). It's cool with both of us. Sometimes she's not in the mood, but she'll be honest about it. Other times she'll indulge me as it's easier (avoiding hurt feelings) than rejecting me. She almost never initiates (which is sad). When she does, I'm going to encourage that, without a doubt, regardless if I'm in the moo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 05:14 PM
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Progress, but it needs to be a felony.
/r/MensRights25/08/23 02:39 PM
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Well, we could start by ending the practice of using 'incel' as a pejorative.
/r/MensRights25/08/23 01:45 PM
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I'll treat you like a woman. What's that mean?
/r/MensRights22/08/23 09:14 PM
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If a man wears girly clothes, that's his business. "A man can't wear girly clothes" is antithetical to men's rights, in my opinion.
/r/MensRights22/08/23 09:13 PM
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As stated in another thread, when Sarah Everard was murdered, Feminists went viral on how men are violent and shouldn't be allowed to roam the street...etc. I hated that. They were judging an entire gender on the actions of a one evil police officer. I don't want to do the same thing with Lucy Letby. Picking out anecdotes doesn't prove anything and I'm not convinced that men or women are innately evil. This case will be remembered for a long time and it's a good example that can be pointed to as…
/r/MensRights22/08/23 04:17 PM
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I don't think that posting every horrible act done by a woman is the way to make that case. That case is better made with statistical reports.
/r/MensRights22/08/23 12:39 PM
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You came into a male space and dictated to me how I should act in it. Pretty textbook. That's not the definition of 'splaining. It's when someone of the opposite gender explains the details of something that you are more knowledgeable in. It's typically done as dismissive. For example, if you were a male teacher and she presumed to know more about education (because she's a woman) when she's a tattoo artist. She's not 'splaining anything. She's making arguments, same as you.
/r/MensRights21/08/23 08:57 PM
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Have I made myself clear? No. All I can tell is that you are angry and it seems that you are directing that anger in my direction.
/r/MensRights21/08/23 08:45 PM
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I think the point here is along the lines of.. when ever there's a story about a woman being the victim of a man they blow it out of proportions and try to use it a fodder to claim that all men are responsible for that one individual's actions.. I think this what MRAs should be focused on. Generalizing on the nature of an entire gender based on the actions of a very few is what is questionable here. I think it hurts the argument when we attempt the same thing with Lucy Letby.
/r/MensRights21/08/23 08:02 PM
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I get massively peeved at double standards and hypocrisy. How does the story about Lucy Letby counter double standards and hypocrisy? How are we any less hypocritical when we point out Lucy Letby and say, "See, women are violent!". Women aren't innately violent, and neither are men. Are you afraid of women? I'm not. I'm not afraid of men either. It's this moral outrage about violence that is used to hurt men by characterizing them as violent. Stop playing the game.
/r/MensRights21/08/23 07:31 PM
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Newsflash, the fact that female violence is shoved under the rug while male violence is shoved under a spotlight is THE MAIN MRA issue. Yep It got Erin Pizzey bomb threats when she refused to do either. Yep. The media are still circling the wagons around #AmberTurd. Yep Feminist groups are protesting/rioting each and every time the idea of gender neutral rape laws ever gets so much as discussed within any parliament. Yep. This is the ground they outright REFUSE to abandon. THIS is THE hill femin…
/r/MensRights21/08/23 07:08 PM
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I agree that accusation is unfair. However, I don't think most feminists make that accusation. I think their accusation is more subtle: violence is about power and control and men use it against women in order to protect patriarchal power. My response is: Patriarchy no longer exists in western civilizations. Feminists use generalizations about violent men to support oppressor-oppressed gender dichotomy narratives in order to protect their privileges. This whole conversation about gender and viol…
/r/MensRights21/08/23 05:53 PM
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Feminists were man hating 24x7 Sarah Everard was murdered - hundreds of protests, proposal in house of commons for curfew for men after 6 pm, etc. I hated that shit. I was like, are you kidding? Do you know how many men are victims of violent crime relative to women? Feminists answer? "That's a whataboutism" or "But the perpetrator was male"...etc. The fact is Feminists are willing to judge all men by the behavior of a very, very few. That is wrong. It's horribly sexist. I'm not about to engage …
/r/MensRights21/08/23 05:23 PM
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There are 8 billion people on this planet and the likelihood of someone doing something horrible every week is very high. Just in the last couple of days. https://www.foxnews.com/category/us/crime/homicide And most of the perpetrators are men. I don't think having a contest with violent crime and gender serves men in anyway. It has nothing to do with you or me. I am more interested in Male Disposability False Allegations Military Draft Male Suicide Male Victims of Abuse Boys falling behind in ed…
/r/MensRights21/08/23 04:32 PM
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Why is Lucy Letby a topic for feminist groups to discuss? Why is it an important topic for us? It's horrible, I get it. I just don't think Men's Rights should be focusing on horrible things that women do. It makes us look like we're anti-woman (I'm not!). I don't like it when feminists do that with men, because it's anti-men. We should be focused inequalities that men face.
/r/MensRights21/08/23 04:05 PM
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Yea, I was on the sub and read this post and a lot of the comments, it made me sad. It also made me mute the sub altogether. I'm no longer interested in interacting with them. It's made me leery of discussing gender equality with Feminists in general.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 07:15 PM
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Men's mental health care needs to be normalised and it doesn't help when other guys laugh at those who care about it. Male suicide isn't a mental health crisis, necessarily. Mental health issues compound the problem. Male suicide is caused by personal stressors caused by real problems, in otherwards...it's not just in our heads. Talking about it helps us cope with the issues, but those issues are still there: relationship breakdowns, divorce, loneliness and domestic abuse. Financial concerns, jo…
/r/MensRights17/08/23 06:19 PM
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Agree with this post. But... I myself struggle with the idea of therapy because of outdated social norms about masculinity (even my dear mother has asked me multiple times if I am "a man or a mouse"), but feel more comfortable about the whole idea now because of encouragement from other men AND women in my life. I don't think the primary cause suicide for men is caused by outdated social norms about masculinity. If it was, we would see male suicide decrease overtime as those norms are rejected b…
/r/MensRights17/08/23 04:39 PM
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I don't think social issues should be gendered, period. Not stranger violence, domestic violence, rape, sexual assault, suicide, divorce, parenting, health, addiction, loneliness, joblessness or homelessness. And I'm not about to stop caring about women because society lacks empathy for men. It shouldn't be a competition. I have a wife and two children, a young man and a young woman. I love and care for all of them.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 04:31 PM
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LOL. Well, if the shoe fits...
/r/MensRights10/08/23 04:01 PM
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I already watched this one. It's good.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/23 03:14 PM
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I think if the whole point of TRP is getting laid, that's the problem. The point of TRP should be helping men who are struggling with dating find content, purpose and peace anyway. The point of TRP should be to not let your success or failure in dating define you as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:35 PM
1

Very inhuman analogy. I think dating dynamics are a bit more complex (and interesting) than purchase decisions (even cars...love buying cars).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:31 PM
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Yea, my wife showed me this one. What an annoying lady.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 02:03 PM
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I hate that. It's like you're somehow complicit in your own victimization by sharing the gender of your attacker.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/23 08:13 PM
1

Men would gladly stay married and let their wives mother them and clean up after them while they go off and have affairs with hot young numbers from work. All men will attempt to pull this off if they think they can. It's male nature. That's why most divorces are initiated by women. I've been married for 20 years and I've never cheated. I haven't even tried. I share domestic responsibilities with my wife. It's not in our nature to shirk responsibilities and cheat if we can manage it. That's just…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 07:30 PM
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Men can care about more than one thing. It's like saying that women only care about how much money a man makes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:14 PM
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It doesn't make sense to only say women are hypergamous and try and marry out of their league when men do the exact say when it comes to looks. That's what hypergamous means though. It's definitively: trading youth and looks for income and status. The reason hypergamy is becoming a hot topic is because women are closing in on equality with respect to pay. It's a double standard to say: women, generally, should make the same as men, but in dating it's normal for women expect men to make more. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:51 PM
2

There's nothing wrong with a woman opening a garage. As long as she doesn't discriminate based on gender. She needs to be willing to hire men or women. She must be willing to have men or women as clients. She shouldn't suggest to her employees or her clients that by simply being male that you are untrustworthy.
/r/MensRights07/08/23 02:25 PM
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“Men started wars" This is a perfect example of the apex fallacy. Very, very, very few men have actually started wars, as you have to be a head of state to do it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/23 07:42 PM
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Not a fan of MensLib, but they had a follow-on post where they were pretty critical of the AMA with Chuck Derry https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/comments/pc8uof/unpacking_the_chuck_derry_ama/ Just trying to be honest here.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 03:39 PM
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I had similar experiences. I had an older kid in gym class chase me down and punch me in the leg hard enough to bruise, every day for about a month. He said he was trying to "toughen me up". One day, I'd had enough. I didn't run, I just waited while he approached and I punched in the face (of course, then I ran like hell). He chased me down and beat the crap out of me. After that he left me alone. In his words, "my job here is done. you finally stood up for yourself. I still had to beat you down…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 03:56 PM
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Why is submission from a woman integral to a relationship? It's not. What makes you think men are more capable leaders than woman? They aren't If a couple disagrees on something, does the man have final authority in decision making even if his partner disagrees? No. The couple has to resolve the issues. Most healthy relationships feature compromise in order to resolve issues where the couple disagrees. What benefits are there for women to totally submit to men? Is it not completely putting thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 08:11 PM
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Many people I've talked to dismiss my concerns as sexist and argue that sexual past shouldn't matter in a relationship. This struggle has led to feelings of being left out and inadequate, especially since I've faced criticism and mockery for not engaging in similar experiences. It's not sexist if you hold yourself to the same values. It's sexist if you expect your partner to be chaste while you have a sexually active past. However, I'm struggling to comprehend why casual sex or having a sex part…
/r/MensRights25/07/23 04:33 PM
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They treat men's problems as some sort of annoying chore that they somewhat begrudgingly make before going back to what they really want to focus their attention to (women's problems). Kind of a "yeah yeah, I already admitted men have problems, it's because of toxic masculinity, patriarchy and all of that, that's sucks and is so sad and yada yada, can we go back to talk about women please?" situation. This is my observation as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/23 09:39 PM
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To be honest, I've never encountered a man more interesting that whatever book was currently reading, so almost all of my interactions with men have involved "putting up with him." After a few years, I realized it was probably impossible to "connect" with one of them. However, they are necessary for reproduction, so trade-offs have to be made. You're not a very good person. I feel sorry for whoever dates you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:05 AM
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I am expecting him to pay for dates because he is paying for my time which I could have spent having fun on my own or with my female friends instead of putting up with whatever he thinks is entertaining and trying to make small talk about his interests and pastimes. Is your time worth more than his? You consider the time your spend with a date as "putting up with him"? Why are you going on a date? It doesn't seem like you honestly are trying to connect with anyone. This almost seems predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:23 PM
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Paying for your entertainment while you go shopping and get spa treatments and make overs is not an equal relationship. If you feel that there is an imbalance in effort for preparation for the date, that's fair. He should contribute more to the expense of dating. If you say, "preparing for the date is my contribution", that is a bit entitled. Using 'compensation' as a word to describe your dating relationship is problematic. You might consider avoiding dating altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:36 PM
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One of my top deal-breakers is I expect equal investment from my partner. If he wants me to go to the trouble and expense of make-up, beauty treatments, and the expensive and uncomfortable clothing men expect women to go through to appear attractive, I damn well expect to be compensated for my time and effort. Good for you. The make-up, the beauty treatments and the expensive outfits are your possessions. They aren't anyone else's. If you are compensated by him for your time in effort on a date,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:05 PM
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You expect to be financially compensated for putting on make-up? That's not what a date is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:24 PM
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This is why I would relent if someone insists on splitting ​ Me: I got this. Her: Thank you, however I would rather pay for my half. Me: Maybe you could pay next time? (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) Her: Seriously, I don't want you to pay for me. I must insist. Me: Ok, if you insist. ​ I don't exactly relish the idea of paying for someone else's meal. Especially someone I barely know. I offer because I like the person and it's kind of expected of me to offer. I'm totally ready to pay. However, if sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:18 PM
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I'd start looking for other indications that he isn't serious. It's the first date right? You're better operating under the assumption that he's not serious (yet). To be honest, it's not a great first impression, and if you really liked a girl it wouldn't be worth sewing any seeds of doubt in her mind. It's not a great first impression when the girl doesn't offer to split.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:57 PM
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Why does it have to be grievously unjust? How about re-adjudication for all unjust cases, not only the grievously unjust ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:53 PM
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I know it sucks. The other side sucks too, many men can't retire because they have to pay alimony. Hopefully, the courts will find a fair compromise. Grandma should work if we're going to make Grandpa work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:49 PM
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Agreed...all of it. I'm not a fan of alimony, but I can see how it is necessary if one partner needs to launch their career after being a SAHP. Permanent alimony just seems like early retirement for one person at the expense of another.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:45 PM
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Who is we? Do you represent an organization or is that the royal 'we'? Why are you talking about my personal responsibility? Have I complained about my relationship with women? The topic of the thread talking about achieving gender equality, which is a social change. I don't know how my personal responsibility is even relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:58 AM
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It's silly to blame one gender for social norms upheld by both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:03 AM
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Because I’m a high school teacher and a lot of men co not get into it because of pay Why is earning so much more important to men than women? Scholarships for university are a whole different conversation because boys are failing out of even high school so you need to fix the lower levels before you can expect upper levels to be fixed That doesn't explain to me why there are more scholarships offered to women. If there are less men enrolling in colleges, there should be more (not less) scholarsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 11:52 PM
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Men have equal access and opportunity in school if they don’t appreciate it and want to be there that’s Different from not being able to enroll. Not true. In the U.S., women have access to almost 3 times the number of college scholarships than men. Beyond access, boys and men face bias as there are numerous study that demonstrate that men receive lower grades for the same quality of work. Boys are more likely to receive discipline for the same behaviors. t’s also an issue with how much teachers …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:22 PM
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I'm not dating anyone. I'm married, been married for 20 years. I'm not talking about a personal problem. I'm talking about a social issue (that you said wasn't a social issue).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:26 PM
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Do you read my comment at all? I never said anything about a man's right to find a date. Stop with the strawman bullshit. The expectation that women have that they should be partnered with someone who makes more money than them is a social norm. Social norms are...social...it's a problem in society. It's not my personal fucking problem. I'm not even dating. That social norm is prevents society viewing men and women as equal. If you disagree with my statement, please disagree with it. Stop making…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:24 PM
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It's a social problem and it's directly related to Feminism. Feminists oppose traditional roles and placing the provider role on all men is part of that. It just seems like some women only want to oppose traditional gender roles when it benefits them and want to uphold those traditional gender roles that benefit them. That's not equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:48 PM
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That was a rhetorical question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:46 PM
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We needed feminism because there were structural institutions keeping women as second class citizens and oppressed. It was an economic and political problem. It was a rhetorical question. It seems to be a pattern that issues that uniquely affect women are considered social issues while issues that uniquely effect men are considered personal problems. Your attitude is a perfect demonstration of this. Thank you for that. Dating isn’t. Sure you can say men are objectified, but they aren’t being opp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:43 PM
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Fat men don’t get as much romantic attention, but typically the only people shitting on them for their size is other men. Women don’t go out of their way to let them know that they’re fat and undesirable the way men do to fat women. The distinction here is that men don't get as much romantic attention, regardless if they are fat or not. Women don't go out of their way to let them know they are attractive or not attractive, Women tend to let men initiate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:02 PM
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It SHOULD be customary to split the bill imo, but since it’s a gray area in the US, it’s hard to know people’s motivations for paying or not paying. Does he believe in equality (good), or does he resent women (bad)? I agree with you. If a man doesn't offer to pay for the date and suggest splitting the bill, it's difficult to know what his motivation is. My suggestion to most men (in the U.S.) is to just pay for the first date and don't expect anything but a "thank you" in return. Consider it the…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 02:52 PM
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This is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 02:40 PM
2

This is fair
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 02:38 PM
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That goes both ways. Why do we need Feminism? Why can't you say "yeah, not for me" when you come across some misogynistic asshole? It doesn't work because there are culture and social norms at play here. If the majority of women conform to a culture that objectifies men as success objects and feel entitled to the their unearned share of outcome of that success, that is a social problem...not a personal one. ​ Edit: How am I getting downvoted? I thought it was against the rules and I don't have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 02:32 PM
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This is a pretty close description of my marriage, and I'm a man. I do perform some "chivalrous" things, a lot of it stems from the basic biological fact that I am taller and stronger. Otherwise, we share household chores and we make decisions together. She cooks, I clean. We do laundry together while watching TV. We spend a couple of hours on the weekend policing the house..etc, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 02:09 PM
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Mine wasn't. I've been married for 20 years. My wife didn't gatekeep sex from me and I didn't gatekeep a relationship from her. It's one thing to not have casual sex. In other words, refrain from sexual activity until you achieve some level of intimacy with your partner. It's another thing altogether to withhold sex until your partner performs something for you. That's gatekeeping, it's manipulative and it's not "how relationships are formed"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 10:24 PM
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In my opinion, the gendered gatekeeping paradigm for sex, relationships or otherwise, is a problematic way of looking at dating. Just because it's common, doesn't make it healthy. I don't like the idea of dividing dating up into discrete phases where a gender has a unique power imbalance leads to zero-sum scenarios where each partner preys upon the other. If a woman is gatekeeping sex in until you prove your worthiness, that's very manipulative. If you are gatekeeping a relationship from a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:50 PM
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Maybe, maybe not. However, it's a double standard to only enforce a gender roles on one gender. For example: "I want a man who takes the initiative and is assertive, but doesn't expect me to be submissive." is likely to lead to relationships that are full of conflict and strife. In other words, the woman expects her men to take charge and make decisions and then have every one of his decisions criticized by her. That is pure misery for him. If she is not submissive and wants an equal relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:40 PM
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You have to show value as a man in order to attract women. Why so gendered? Why so objectifying? Of course, men are women are going be able to attract partners that are like they are, or at least complimentary. This notion of men showing their value seems very one sided to me. I mean I shouldn't need to explain this to people, it should just be common sense. Wow, so condescending. Maybe you should stop thinking that your personal opinion is a universal axiom.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:29 PM
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But that's the point. You can't expect sex when you don't provide anything. If you want to subvert your expectations and just live as a hermit jerking off, go for it. I wouldn't nudge any man I actually was friends with in that direction though. This is an extremely misguided. Providing something in exchange for sex is definitively prostitution. Prostitution is, in my opinion, worse than porn. That's completely different than being a man that women want to have sex with, which may include having…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 06:52 PM
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"Now women are starting to catch up and everyone is "oH nOEs poOR wYMynz nEeds haLp, mENz hAlp pLeEeeez!". Cry me a river, Maya. I hate that many Feminists tend to view discussions about male suicide with apathy. However, I don't agree with this sentiment. It seems anti-woman, not anti-feminist. I don't think suicide should be viewed with this kind of contempt, regardless of the gender.
/r/MensRights06/06/23 04:47 PM
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No you don't. I was a teenager before the internet and I had little access to porn. That didn't stop me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:12 PM
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I still believe that there are many ways in which women are subject to injustice and harm because of their gender. That there are still unfinished campaigns against the oppression of women and girls in our society. Yea, I agree I'm here on this subreddit because I hold a belief that some people can't even comprehend. That this does not take away from the injustice against- nor the suffering of men. That both men and women face unfair treatment, sexism and harm from ourselves and others. That the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/23 02:31 PM
1

Ask them if the issues of a wealthy white woman should be resolved before we make any effort to solve the issues faced by poor black boys. This simply steers the conversation into intersectionality. This allows them to conflate sexism with race and/or gender identity. Once the conversation becomes a soup of unrelated grievances, it becomes impossible to keep them on point. In short, you lose.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/23 07:14 PM
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For me, an active woman is someone who has an active lifestyle. This may or may not mean going to the gym. It could be jogging, cycling, hiking or swimming. There are benefits to that: She's likely to want to participate in physical activities. She enjoys the outdoors. She's less likely to have medical issues do to inactivity She's going to look better and she's more likely to stay that way. This isn't fat shaming. A woman who is naturally rounder will still look better if she's active. I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 05:46 PM
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I've never asked anyone, "what do you bring to the table." Still, I can't imagine the question comes out of thin air. It seems likely that it's a counter to being given a list of expectations for dating from a woman. So it's not "what do you offer that makes you deserving of my company?" Instead, it's, "what do you offer to match your expectations?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:28 PM
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Isn't bodycount a test for honesty, loyalty and trustworthiness? If a woman is honest, local and trustworthy, does her bodycount matter? I would have no problem with a woman who has had relatively high number of partners if she has a history of treating them all honestly. The only thing that bodycount might indicate is that she had multiple partners at the same time without disclosing it. To me, if that is not indeed the case, bodycount becomes irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:42 PM
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I'm married and I'm glad I am. I've got two kids. We've almost divorced, but we got through it. I believe my wife is a good person. Divorce wouldn't have been catastrophic for me. I live in Texas and family courts are fairer here. There is no mandatory spousal support and Texas is one of the hardest states to win alimony in. I would have had to pay child support, but most my income already goes to the family anyway. My lifestyle would not have changed that much after divorce. Hers would have (pr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/23 02:46 PM
1

It matters. I don't want to bear the pressure of supporting the two of us alone, much less an entire family. I don't want a woman who feels trapped in a relationship with me because she can't provide for herself. I don't want a woman who I feel trapped with because I'm concerned for her ability to support herself. Healthy relationships are built with two people who can function independently. Healthy relationships include two people who want to be in that relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:45 PM
3

He's amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 06:37 PM
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r/leftwingmaleadvocates is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 06:36 PM
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Mens issues are held back by tribalism and it’s about deconstructing masculinity as well as power structures in society Do we have to deconstruct femininity in order to address women's issues? Why do we have to deconstruct masculinity to address men's issues? We assume women's issues are social issues. We expect society to change in order to address them. We assume men's issues are only men's issues. We expect men to change to address them. Men are held back by not society not recognizing that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 06:06 PM
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Feminists? They talk about male loneliness with a lot of schadenfreude. They talk about male privilege and entitlement. They do not about talk male disadvantage, except maybe that we don't cry. They aren't helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:59 PM
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Yes, there are legitimate criticisms against Feminism. One for certain is Patriarchy theory: men are oppressors and women are oppressed. While that may be a fair description of gender dynamics in some countries, it certainly is not in the U.S. Secondly, there's no end game: address inequalities that face women and dismiss those that face men...period. To Feminists: an egalitarian society is one where women (men...it's ok) never have to face injustice. The end result is NOT equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:55 PM
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Agree and disagree. The "Mens rights" subreddit isn't moderated very well. So it allows poor quality posts dominate the sub. However, with all due respect, as a woman, I don't think you are qualified to determine what is an issue and a non-issue for men. The "Mens Lib" subreddit is not a constructive for sub discussing men's rights. Any men's perspective that doesn't align with accepted Feminist perspectives will never make it to light. It seems constructive, because no male issues that aren't b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 01:52 PM
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Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release. After reading the context of this quote, I don't believe it's actually a misandrist quote. Here is the entire quote: Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release. The problem of recidivism ought to have shown young men like John Greenaway just what sort of a notion security i…
/r/MensRights19/04/23 08:51 PM
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Moderators should pin this.
/r/MensRights18/04/23 05:49 PM
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I think it's usually because the woman is the assumed caretaker of the children (if there are any). If there aren't any children, I don't see why the man has to move out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/23 02:03 PM
1

I also wouldn't actually have a baby with a hookup, but that's a different story. Actually, I think this is why it is unlikely that you will face this problem.
/r/ExRedPill24/03/23 06:00 PM
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I'm already married and have two children, 18 and 14. I didn't ask for a paternity test. The first child we had been together for 3 years: 1 year dating, 1 year cohabitating and the 3rd year married. At that point I had complete trust in her, from a infidelity perspective. However, trust isn't something that you have on day one. It's something that is built/earned over time. If you trust someone completely after only dating them a few months, I would say that you're naïve. If she had gotten preg…
/r/ExRedPill24/03/23 05:06 PM
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So, to me cheating doesn't seem like such a big deal, whereas paternity actually does seem like a big deal. Paternity is such a consequential thing to know, and such an easy thing to check. Why wouldn't you? This is my thinking. It's not as much about trust so much as the stakes. If a woman tells me she's faithful, that easy...why not believe her? What's the harm? Feelings of betrayal? I'll get over it. However, asking me to bet my emotional and financial commitment for raising a child for 20 ye…
/r/ExRedPill24/03/23 04:24 PM
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I'd get an abortion, to be fair. Because I'm not having a baby with a guy who doesn't trust me. Wow. Now that I think of it, I totally agree with your reasoning. I couldn't imagine having a baby with a woman that would abort a pregnancy just because I asked for a paternity test.
/r/ExRedPill24/03/23 04:15 PM
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7th slide: "76% of corollary victims of male" should it be "76% of corollary victims are male."?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/23 01:52 PM
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Goodness, just putting the words ‘white men’ and ‘suffering’ together, will make most people wince, wretch, scoff, or throb with anger. No kidding. Why is that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/23 06:58 PM
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Lol, I get it. I'm trying to rise above the shite that UN Women says in international men's day.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/23 10:44 PM
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Men don't owe anyone anything. As long as someone identifies as a man, they're a man. Well, they have to survive childhood and youth. But yep, that's it. A man is man. There are only real men. Imaginary men, definitively, don't exist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/23 04:41 PM
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I substitute 'Advocate' for 'Activist'
/r/MensRights17/02/23 05:33 PM
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Men have less years of healthy living, women most affected.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/23 09:35 PM
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I'm for men's rights. Not Christian men's rights. Not straight men's rights. Not white men's rights. Not that I have anything against Christian, straight or white men. (I'm straight and white). If men's rights are going to be taken seriously, we have to support all men. Gay, Black, Muslim, Hindu...doesn't matter. We're all in this together.
/r/MensRights14/02/23 04:40 AM
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I agree. I hate that he's become the face (for many) of MRAs. He doesn't represent me.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 07:29 PM
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From a men's rights perspective, there is nothing wrong with masturbating as long as you do it in private. It doesn't matter if you do it 30 times a day. If your wife is shaming you for that, I would consider that abuse. If your church is shaming you for that, I would consider that religious abuse. It's body autonomy at it's essence. It's nobody else's business but your own. There is no reason to feel shame for it...period. If you decide to stop for your own reasons, make sure you are clear with…
/r/MensRights06/02/23 08:03 PM
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Texas is a good state for men to face divorce. Don't let her change venues. In Texas, there is a cap at $9,200 monthly on child support. With your salary and two kids, you're likely to pay no more than $2500 a month. You should be able to get a blood test. You shouldn't have to pay any child support for children that are not biologically yours. You're not likely to have to pay any alimony if you've only been married for 9 months. Go get a lawyer and stop listening to your wife. She's trying to s…
/r/MensRights03/02/23 03:53 PM
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He said he feels such a person is a bhosarika (male loser in India). I told him that it's actually a bhosariki (female loser in India). The word bhosarika is a slang that basically means cunt. I hadn't taken her name. But she overheard and threatened to complain to the HR as she felt that we were talking about her. I know many of you may feel that I was wrong to correct the gender of the slang as this guy had no idea about who I was talking about but I obviously had. But I want you to put yourse…
/r/MensRights30/01/23 10:51 PM
1

I don't think you're making a good faith argument here, but I'll go against my intuition and ask: What do you mean by policy accomplishments wrt to NGOs? They aren't a lobbying group. What makes CCFM a, good lord, "simp" training camp?
/r/MensRights27/01/23 07:00 PM
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I agree with you and r/MensLib, both. It's a bizarre comment, and r/MensLib is overly strict for banning your for the comment.
/r/MensRights27/01/23 06:50 PM
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LOL! Like opening CCFM?
/r/MensRights26/01/23 11:13 PM
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Canadian Association for Equality is an NGO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Association_for_Equality If you live in Canada and you consider yourself an MRA, should be acquainted with the organization. Probably one of the higher profile organizations that support men's rights in the world. I don't live in Canada and I know who they are.
/r/MensRights26/01/23 10:47 PM
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I'm sorry you've experienced such abuse. There are good and bad women and good and bad men. I hope you find peace.
/r/MensRights26/01/23 10:44 PM
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False accusations are going to happen. It's wrong that they can ruin the accused life before due process concludes. If the accused never suffers unless they are found guilty, false accusations wouldn't be so bad.
/r/MensRights26/01/23 10:37 PM
1

But that's not what Canadian Association for Equality is, is it?
/r/MensRights26/01/23 10:12 PM
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It's sponsored by Canadian Association for Equality, a group known for supporting men's rights. (as another comment posted)
/r/MensRights26/01/23 08:06 PM
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It's a men in crisis (abused, divorced and suicidal). All of the shit men are vulnerable to. It's progress. It's sponsored by Canadian Association for Equality, a group known for supporting men's rights.
/r/MensRights26/01/23 08:05 PM
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Record the conversation before asking them to stop. In fact, record the entire interaction. If HR still fires you, it's an easy day in court. Document!
/r/MensRights25/01/23 07:19 PM
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Even reporting harassment by female colleagues to HR can get you fired. Being fired as retaliation for reporting harassment is against the law and should be pretty easy to litigate. If you get fired without cause (and documentation) right after reporting (and documenting) a harassment complaint, it's an open and shut case. An HR professional knows this.
/r/MensRights25/01/23 06:44 PM
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I would say the whole topic was not suitable for work (for them or you). In the future, when women such discuss topics in your presence you should ask them to stop. If they refuse, that is sexual harrassment and you should report them. Porn, Prostitution and perverts should not be conversations in professional settings, period. For men, it's uncomfortable when those conversation lead to a general demonizing of men and we can't safely respond. It makes the workplace unsafe for us.
/r/MensRights25/01/23 06:32 PM
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They may not do the same. Attachment can be your enemy. However, you don't have to lose friends. You can spend less time with them as you make new ones.
/r/MensRights24/01/23 01:14 PM
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I don't have any answer about that. Dude, I see it like you do. I have a real problem with the whole oppressor-oppressed gender dichotomy. It just doesn't fit my lived experience. The thing is that you know he's otherwise a very rational guy, and you feel like you are rational person as well. Yet the two of you can't find common ground. It's weird, right? Can you accept that you just can't agree on this one thing? I have friends that I've known for 20 years and over that time, we've found oursel…
/r/MensRights24/01/23 05:10 AM
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Let it go. You are just one person and so is he. The future of mankind is not at stake here. You may not know what is causing him to act like that. It may be some kind of trauma. Apparently, that's one topic you can't discuss with him. If he continues to treat you with disregard, then your friendship is over. Still, your friendship will not be the same. For that, I'm sorry. In future conversations with him, stick to topics that you can discuss with reason.
/r/MensRights24/01/23 12:05 AM
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If I get myself killed intervening in a random fight, my death causes permanent harm and trauma to my wife. Shouldn’t I be protecting her from that by showing careful risk awareness and management before protecting a random woman? Exactly! Men die 3 times more often from violent crime. Feminists say that's because we engage in risky behavior on what side of their mouth and then tell us to protect anonymous women with the other side (which is risky behavior). I'm only responsible for my women. (m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/23 06:46 PM
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leftwingmaleadvocates One of my favorite subs.
/r/AntiFeminists20/01/23 04:32 PM
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For a while, last year, I started meeting with an old friend weekly to do a little mountain biking. Nothing crazy, just hitting the single tracks to have fun and get some exercise. At one point, he invited a friend of his. His friend was gay. I don't think of myself as homophobic, but I guess I do have a little bias. I've had a lot of gay friends. I'd never done manly things with them though. His friend was a little overweight and a little effeminate. I subconsciously associated that with weakne…
/r/MensRights19/01/23 07:49 PM
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Trickle down equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 01:42 AM
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I can't believe I'm saying this: Your compassion is gendered. You are a misogynist. (I'm not even a Feminist)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 08:35 PM
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Sorry dude, you need to practice a little more compassion. If a someone takes a handful of pills, there is at least some chance that they will be successful at killing themselves. Someone only takes this chance if they are suffering. I don't think minimizing the suffering of others will benefit anyone, include you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 08:26 PM
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>!! Since when those mother fuckers are in charge? I never used the word Feminazi. I would prefer to avoid hyperbole. I'm taking about general Feminists. Who do you think dominates Family courts? Where do you think the Duluth Model came from? Who do you think sponsored the VAWA act? Who do you think is behind all of the female centered abuse shelters? Who do you think opposes funding for men's shelters? Where do you think funds come from (taxes)? There are organizations that are working to lobby…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 07:16 PM
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Not only that but there are more female help centers than for men. But not because feminazis burn the male centers down but because "men are strong, and don't need help" - which is a patriarchal ideology. It's also because many Feminists believe that women cannot be abusers to men, and men cannot be victims of women. ** See Duluth Model ** The Feminist narrative is that nearly all domestic violence is caused by Patriarchal values and the need to control women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 07:02 PM
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I would never say that women, generally speaking, are faking suicides, You are correct in pointing out how insensitive that is. However, here is a difference. When someone puts a gun to their head and pulls the trigger, they are more committed to ending their life than someone who swallows a handful of pills. The frame of mind is different. The amount of suffering the person has endured leading up to the event is different. Definitively, the consequences of a successful attempt vs a failed attem…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 06:50 PM
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At least in my region (central Europe), feminism is the pro-female part of egalitarianism. Just as MRA is the pro-male part. This is really what it should be.
/r/MensRights08/01/23 02:26 PM
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I responded to one of the commenters and suggested that he might be a victim of IPV. I suggested that they ask him why he would ask such a question. Instant perma-band.
/r/AntiFeminists05/01/23 12:35 AM
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Neither of those photos are average guys. One is a 2 the other is a 7 (at least)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:40 PM
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Legally, he has to either help raise the child, or demand a blood test and get a divorce. That is what marriage is...shared assets and liabilities.
/r/MensRights02/01/23 02:42 PM
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I guess that means that if you're a man in a long-term relationship with a woman she is likely to gain weight. If you don't like that, then don't in relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 11:04 PM
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It wouldn't matter if you never aged, the kind of attention you get when a man is first smitten with you won't last forever. It doesn't mean he doesn't love you. It's just different when you've been with someone a long time. When it's healthy, excitement turns into contentment and admiration into respect. He stays with you because you've demonstrated your love for him, despite his imperfections and he loves your the same way. Oh, and 2 pounds? don't make me laugh. You're likely to gain more than…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 05:36 PM
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This is victim blaming. Where's your proof? Can you show me a study that shows that male victims are primarily criminals?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:20 PM
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Hell yea we are! We tend to like oversized body parts when they're associated with sex. (big butts, big boobs...etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 04:50 PM
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Man and death - Better workplace safety regulations. More support for men in crisis: homeless shelters, domestic abuse shelters...etc. Divorce fairness may help reduce suicides. More equal government funding for men's health (like breast cancer vs prostate cancer) Men are more likely to commit serious violent offenses - This could be mitigated by having more support for men in crisis. How many times to men resort to violent crime because they are just flat out of options? Divorce 1 - Joint custo…
/r/MensRights23/12/22 04:08 PM
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No. Not every trend you see proves that "woman bad". So funny. I often see the same thing online, but from the man's perspective. Like you, I hate any reductive statements that paint one gender as evil and the other gender as good. Believe me, there's a lot of that online against men as well. So to be clear, I hate both men=good, women=bad OR women=good, men=bad I'm married, I have a daughter and I have a lots of women coworkers. They are all good people trying to do good things while trying liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:53 PM
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Your perspective is fair and reasonable. However, it leaves out the fact that women tend to include financial success as a prerequisite to partnership at some level and men don't. Now, now, I'm not saying that women are more shallow than men. Men have their own shallow requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 03:06 PM
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A week or so later, she told another coworker that she recently asked her boyfriend to be the breadwinner because she wanted to sit at home instead of working. If they aren't raising kids together, it sounds like she's using victimhood to justify selfishness. Otherwise, I can't imagine why someone (man or woman) can justify asking someone else to support them when they do nothing in return. My wife stayed home and didn't work for a time but that's because she was raising our 2 young children tha…
/r/MensRights22/12/22 09:10 PM
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Women=good, Men=bad
/r/MensRights22/12/22 08:18 PM
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I'm sure arrogant people typically engage in that kind of behavior. However, arrogance, definitively speaking, is having an exaggerated sense of one's importance or capabilities. You don't have to put others down to do that. If you believe you're God's gift to women and you're not, that is an example of arrogance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 07:53 PM
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That gets so old. "You don't to be tall or rich. Women are attracted to confidence, so be confident!" It's a euphemism for successful, tall and handsome, because that's where confidence typically comes from. If you're unemployed, short and ugly: it's not confidence, it's arrogance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 07:39 PM
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I think the mods should remove your post and ban you from this sub. Not because of differing opinions though. You clearly have no intention of participating in a genuine discussion. You are a troll.
/r/MensRights21/12/22 06:37 PM
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Seriously, you're going to use incel as a insult? You've lost any high ground you might have had.
/r/MensRights21/12/22 06:10 PM
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the gender pay gap In the US, gender pay gap only exists when not controlled by occupation and years of experience. https://www.payscale.com/research-and-insights/gender-pay-gap/#:~:text=The%20controlled%20gender%20pay%20gap,job%20level%2C%20and%20hours%20worked. 1 in 3 women are rape victims First, source please. I'm guessing you're conflating overall violence with rape. Please stop spreading disinformation. Regardless, I don't see how that's a male privilege. women being expected to look after…
/r/MensRights21/12/22 06:03 PM
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Nice! I think I can hear that IV-V-VI progression in there? Sounds like good music to ride your bike to. Sounds like going on a trip...on the move.
/r/MensRights21/12/22 03:01 PM
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I agree with you, it's not necessarily feminine. However, it's not typically considered masculine either, which was the OPs question. Like you, when I was young I was bullied for playing piano, until I reached teenage. In my teens it turned into an asset: most girls thought it was cool. That was an added bonus, I didn't play piano to impress the girls. I have enjoyed the logic, complexity and emotion that music brings. It kind of checks a lot of boxes for me. I'm glad I learned the piano at an e…
/r/MensRights21/12/22 02:33 PM
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I think we're in agreement then. I'm saying that it's possible that a person (I'll make it gender neutral) may endure enough abuse that they retaliate. This means that in one encounter they may throw the first punch. However, it's not the same as being abusive. I do think this is a possible outcome, but the creators of the Duluth Model think that is the primary reason a woman might initiate violence. I'm glad to hear you don't agree with the Duluth Model. I'm not trying to argue just to argue (I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 12:41 AM
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Edit: I agree with what you are saying. I really like your acknowledgement that woman can be abusers. The more I see women acknowledge this, the more faith I have in the relationship between genders. I'm sure there are acknowledgements from men that make you feel similarly. About the Duluth Model: I feel like you're conflating defensive and retaliatory violence. In my understanding, there is a difference. Defensive violence is when violence is used as a deterrent. That typically means someone th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 12:31 AM
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I play classical music on the Piano.
/r/MensRights21/12/22 12:09 AM
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If a male partner hits his female partner, it’s domestic violence. If a female partner hits her male partner, it’s domestic violence. If a female partner hits her female partner, it’s domestic violence. If a male partner hits his male partner, it’s domestic violence. And all other combinations of whatever genders people identify as. Most women would agree that violence between partners is domestic violence, irregardless of the gender makeup of the couple. Women can absolutely be abusers and can …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 12:08 AM
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Funny, I don't feel angry. If you're not seeking controversy, why did you address RP's with your question and at the same time describe them in such a negative way?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:04 PM
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I don't think misogyny is a path for growth. I think men that take the Red Pill typically do it because of negative experiences with women. It seems natural that they may be misogynists as a result. While it may be unhealthy for them to blame women for their problems. However, with that frame of mind, it is healthy for them to withdraw from women and work on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:28 PM
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On another note, no I don't agree with you. This was how you think a young man should work on himself: he never has to do the hard work of changing his life and risking his heart and putting himself out there. That is not what Red Pill is. Red Pill is not risking your heart and not putting yourself out there. Red Pill is deciding who you want to be and becoming that person. The Red Pill is about avoiding dating until you know who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:16 PM
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That's because of the 'Gender War'. You'll find just as much content in Reddit blaming men for XXX. People like controversy. That's why you created this post. You don't really care about Red Pill men and their mental health. You're just mad because of the negative posts you see online about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:06 PM
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First of all, celebrating single young women is the current cultural narrative. My post was addressing that narrative in contrast to your rather negative description of single men who put off dating to work on themselves: that is what Red Pill is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:57 PM
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Why do we celebrate empowered single women but disparage young men who decide to put aside dating and work on themselves? When I was single, I think I spent too much of my time worrying about getting the girl. I applaud young men who have decided to focus on what they want in their lives first before trying to date. In the dating world, men generally don't have any intrinsic value. They have to earn it. It makes total sense that men would hold of dating until they feel confident. Where on Earth …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 01:48 PM
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I've been married for 20 years and I don't know my wife's n-count...and I don't give AF. She doesn't know mine either. She never asked. There are so many more important things to consider rather than n-count. Honesty, kindness, a sense of humor...etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:37 PM
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Virginity has never been a requirement for me (just fyi). I got married in my 30's and before then I kind of expected that the women I dated would not be virgins. When you get married with the intention of starting a family, as I did, you're making a significant commitment to love, support and work together to create a home that is safe and stable for your children. We didn't coerce each other into monogamy, we both agreed to that commitment. For me, it has been nice to not have to seek a partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:40 PM
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It's a primarily woman's issue. Men cannot rely on a woman's right to an abortion to benefit them. Women make their choice and men are forced to abide by that choice. Men who support a woman's right to an abortion typically do so to support women, not out of self-interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 10:19 PM
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I understand how it affects men. A man benefits from a woman's choice if she chooses to have an abortion and if that's what he wants too. It's not as beneficial to men as you think it is. I support a woman's right to an abortion, because I think they should have that right. I don't support a woman's right to an abortion out of self interest. It benefits me very little. I would feel differently if men had more rights: Compulsory paternity tests. If a woman is going to put your name on a birth cer…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 09:32 PM
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Hang in there, this too may pass. I was exactly like that. Eventually, my children got older and became more self sufficient and my job got easier. If you have to, take an easier job. You're not worth much to your family burned out or worse...dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:57 PM
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Good question! I think it varies from couple to couple. Getting older doesn't mean you have to become obese. You probably won't be in the same shape from your youth, but giving up is bad for you and your partner. Your partner will not only have to deal with the disappointment of being married to someone who they aren't attracted to anymore, they will have to deal with the hardship and sadness of a spouse whose health is in rapid decline. However, It's hard to blame a woman for not exercising if …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:42 PM
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If the man is in agreement with the woman, it's still not his choice. He's just lucky that her wishes align with his. I'm not taking that away from those men. I'm just not willing to call that something it's not: his choice. I have two children, both whom which I chose to have. I got married. We had sex with the explicit intention of having a child. That was my choice. When I was twenty, I got my girlfriend pregnant. She decided to have an abortion. I agreed, but still, that was not my choice. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:14 PM
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There's no possibility of a choice for men, abortion rights for women or not. What are you talking about? Women have a choice, men don't. Men can't have an abortion. If a woman decides to have an abortion, that is her choice not his. It's like saying: if I flip a coin and choose heads and it lands on heads, it's because I chose it. Is that what you mean by a possibility of choice? That's no choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:47 PM
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Men have no choice, period. I'm sure some women take the men's desire into consideration, some won't. It is still her choice and that's the end of it. The choice men have is an illusion. A woman makes her choice and it may go for or against a man's wishes. For men, that is definitively no choice. A wish and a prayer is not a choice. For example, my brother in law and his wife became pregnant with their third child. He didn't want the financial burden of the third child. Additionally, She had man…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 07:06 PM
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Because having an abortion is a woman's choice, full stop. If a woman makes a choice to either have or not have an abortion it may or may not correlate with a man's desire. If a woman has an abortion, and the man doesn't want to have children, then he wins. If a woman has an abortion and the man wants her to have his child (for whatever reason), he loses. If a woman decides to have a child and the man wants the child, he wins. If a woman decides to have a child and he doesn't want the child, he …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 06:21 PM
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You're asking all of the right questions. The world is a confusing place. Your values, perspective and beliefs are your own. You are an individual. You don't have to join a club or be part of a movement. Take the things you agree with from MRAs and do the same with Feminists. Leave the rest. Continue treating the men and women in your life with courtesy and respect and continue to question what you believe is fair and unfair. Don't hate. Find happiness.
/r/MensRights12/12/22 07:05 PM
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The issue becomes how leadership positions these topics into gendered issues. If men have more resources, that takes away from women. Instead of battling homelessness, it is female homelessness. Instead of promoting an educated future, it is female is the future. Instead of targeting domestic violence, it is men are the aggressor and women are the victim. This
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/22 03:13 PM
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No. I've been married for 20 years and there is no way I would leave her because of injury or illness. That's when she would need me the most. No way. My kids would hate me and I would hate myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:04 PM
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Yea, Marc Fogel would have been a better person to get released. I'm not countering that Whelan has to be a perfect victim. I brought up his record to counter the claim that the U.S. owed him additional consideration because of his service to our country.
/r/MensRights09/12/22 04:25 AM
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also r/FeMRADebates is a good sub for that.
/r/MensRights08/12/22 09:07 PM
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To me, Feminism seeks to achieve gender equality through advocacy of women's rights. While some feminists may genuinely care about men's issues, Feminism does not. If men are experiencing gender based discrimination, Feminism will not address it. This is why we need men's rights advocacy. I consider myself an MRA. I will criticize feminists when their actions, behaviors and rhetoric affect men's rights. That does not make me anti-feminist. That makes me a rational man. I support ideas of Feminis…
/r/MensRights08/12/22 08:00 PM
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Marc Fogel is a different story. I am convinced that he's not getting helped because he's straight, male and white.
/r/MensRights08/12/22 07:44 PM
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Paul Whelan was technically a Marine. He worked in administration, which is an office job. He "served" our country, by doing his job. He never risked his life for our country. To hold him in the same regard as a marine who actually risked their life is disingenuous. He was court martialed for attempting to steal $`10,000 and using a false SSN number to gain access to create a false account on a government computer system to grade his own examinations. It defies credulity for you to claim that yo…
/r/MensRights08/12/22 07:39 PM
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Why? His military record wasn't exactly stellar and he wasn't in Russia on behalf of the marines. He's a civilian. I don't think he belongs there, don't get me wrong. I don't understand why you think he should be prioritized over any other American held as a political prisoner. Because he served in the marines? I don't even think he saw combat.
/r/MensRights08/12/22 04:59 PM
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Personally, I'm glad Brittney Griner is on her way home. Sure she broke the law, but I don't think the punishment fit the crime in any way, shape or form. At the same time, I think it's a shame the Paul Whelan wasn't released as well. I don't think it contributes to men's rights to begrudge Griner her freedom. I'm not so sure Whelan wasn't released because he's a man. I think it has more to do with Griner's fame.
/r/MensRights08/12/22 04:18 PM
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Yea, I agree with what you are saying, but I disagree with why. I think men should stop worrying about being perceived as a weirdo. I think men should be more concerned with putting themselves in situations that make them feel like weirdos. This sounds a bit red pillish (I'm not that way), but men should focus on building a life where they can be happy (financially, physically, socially and spiritually). When men are happy, they are less likely to give off creepy vibes. However, not giving off c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 08:17 PM
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I don't know if hitting bars is the way to go. I'm not against drinking per se, it's just bars can be very isolating. If you're socially awkward and you go to bars alone, you're likely to sit by yourself drinking watching others socialize and feel even more out of place. I would suggest you find a social activity that encourages you to interact with other people -- men and women. Something positive: running, cycling, charitable volunteering, a bowling league...something with activities that inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:54 PM
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This
/r/MensRights03/12/22 05:16 AM
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The point isn't to solve sexlessness, it's to stop ridiculing them for it. It's stigmatized because people use sexlessness as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:24 PM
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That's a kind of "Let them eat cake" advice. Men who wouldn't let such insults get to them typically have confidence and have had sex. Men who are suffering from a lack of confidence and a lack of sex are typically the ones most targeted by such insults. It's punching down to ridicule a man who can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:21 PM
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Yea, that was hyperbole. What you are suggesting (therapy services) looks like sympathy, no?
/r/MensRights01/12/22 01:37 PM
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Strength/weakness doesn't matter. You shouldn't perpetrate violence except for protection. It's bullying if you perpetrate violence against a weaker person. It's self-destructive to perpetrate violence against a stronger person. However, you cannot say that a stronger person has bullied you if you perpetrated violence. That is true regardless of gender.
/r/MensRights30/11/22 07:45 PM
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This is such an f-d up post. Men have always known that they have to earn their worth. We know we don't have any "inherent value". We have to make something of ourselves. It's women who rely on "inherent value" that are relatively worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 01:14 PM
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It doesn't bother me when Feminists lobby for issues that affect men in a way that is in the interest of men. In this case, they have an interest. I don't see a problem here.
/r/MensRights30/11/22 02:50 AM
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I've been married for 20 years. It's had it's ups and downs, but I'm happily married. Here is my opinion Men's obsession with sex typically comes from Hormones - Primarily a problem with younger men. As men get older, this begins to stabilize. Lack of sex - this usually balances out once a man is in a long term relationship, even young men. Sexual addiction - Probably should avoid these guys. Men's obsession with sex is the primary driver for the procreation of our race. We are that way because …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 09:35 PM
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Our toys: Hot rods Bicycles (road and mountain) Motorcycles (road and offroad) Barbeque pits Tools Guitars Gaming: Computers and Consoles Men work hard to help provide for the ones they love. Our toys often represent self-care in a fun and fulfilling way. They also represent men's pursuit of excellence even during leisure time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/22 02:12 PM
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Wait until you get older and after you've procreated. Your urges will decline (not go away) and you'll be OK. You'll find other reasons to do stuff besides trying to impress a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:08 PM
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The same reason they don't pay for dates: because they don't have to. Men are willing to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:35 PM
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What's toxic here? Pretending the sex difference don't exist? Or using sex differences to condemn behavior for one gender while justifying it for another? At the extreme, women are physically capable of killing men. Pretending that men are invulnerable to abuse is toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:14 PM
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True, but this is used to justify a double standard. A woman has no more right to put her hands on a man. Women have used the strength disparity to dole out physical abuse with perceived impunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:09 PM
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I know. Try to find some comfort the fact that you're not alone. Many of us feel the same way. That's what this sub is for. Keep fighting for equality and stick close to those people you trust and love. Don't give in to despair.
/r/MensRights27/11/22 10:34 PM
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I hear you! It affects me too. I try to stay out of hateful Subreddits. People are gonna hate.
/r/MensRights27/11/22 09:41 PM
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You can't make anyone think anything. You can only share your perspective and listen to theirs. That's what respect is. If her feminist perspective doesn't cause her to treat you with affection and respect then let it go. If she uses feminism, however, to control you or place blame on you for things that are not your fault, that's a problem. If she constantly uses "ironic misandry" phrases like "men are trash" and "bathe in male tears", you might be in for some emotional abuse.
/r/MensRights27/11/22 06:26 PM
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That's crap. A man shouldn't have to prove he's a good father by paying a lawyer ridiculous amounts of money in a custody battle. What if he can't afford it? Is that how we determine who are good fathers? So, good fathers are men who can afford expensive lawyers? How is that going to motivate men to focus less on their career and more on domestic responsibilities? Additionally, default custody shouldn't be determined by statistics. A man should have rights to his children unless he's been proven…
/r/MensRights27/11/22 06:13 PM
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Exactly what I was going to say
/r/MensRights27/11/22 12:50 AM
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Why do men always have to fight for custody? Why isn't joint custody the default? The rest of that sounds like whataboutisms to me. I don't have to worry about my daughter's parents paying for her college. I have complete control over that. I expect my son to take the lead in elder care. He's the oldest. Regardless, none of that alleviates any of the concern I have for my son
/r/MensRights26/11/22 02:10 PM
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"Those men were unemployed leeches anyway"...geez
/r/EverydayMisandry25/11/22 06:15 PM
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If you survive childhood and youth and you identify as male, you're a man. No one has to teach you to be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 04:09 PM
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He hasn't gotten as much support or help in school as my daughter. If she was having trouble in a class, we would be contacted by the teacher well before our report card. My son would just get a bad grade and we would take action then. One of his teachers felt it was ok to say my wife on his first day in class: "XXX is a real space cadet." I don't think she would have made same comment about my daughter without having some rapport with us. Beyond that, I'm more worried about adulthood If my son …
/r/MensRights22/11/22 02:07 AM
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I have a daughter and a son. I want them both treated fairly. I have no doubt that society is doing it's best to make sure that my daughter is treated fairly. I do not feel that way about my son.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 09:51 PM
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What's your point? I did say it was sexist.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 04:30 PM
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It's sexism, but it's sexism against women and men. It claims the superiority of women, but it boxes them into domestic roles. It also implies that men are incapable of cooking and cleaning, which is absurd. It's also very, very old. I honestly think it was written with good intentions, it just hasn't aged very well. Reminds me of "Happy wife, happy life" Lord knows why it got so many votes.
/r/MensRights18/11/22 03:57 PM
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Just my perspective. I have been married for 20 years. If my wife did flirt (she might!), I would prefer that she did it behind my back instead of right under my nose. If you partner flirts right in front of you, that's disrespectful and unkind. If she's flirting, I believe she just need validation that she's still got it. I totally get that. Edit: Texting is kind of different. It's hard to dismiss when they and the other person are carrying around a permanent record of their flirting.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 11:33 PM
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Not a fan of open relationships either To me, flirting isn't cheating.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 11:22 PM
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She's half-right. If she is happy in the relationship but want to have sex outside of the relationship, it's much more honest for her to ask for an open relationship. If he says no, then she can either leave the relationship or stay faithful. If she cheats, she's betraying his trust. It demonstrates a lack of regard for him.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 05:36 PM
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While UN recognizes International Women's Day, they do not recognize International Men's Day. Instead, on International Men's Day, they recognize World Toilet Day. Coincidence? I'll let you decide :)
/r/EverydayMisandry17/11/22 04:00 PM
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This letter represents how entrenched many feminists are with regards to domestic violence. These feminists still believe that only men can be abusers. These groups will stand behind even the worst of women. It's sad and disappointing to say the least. I know I'm going to be eviscerated for saying this in this sub, but I'm going to anyway.Feminism is the pursuit of gender equality through the advocacy of women's rights. They have every right to do that. Feminists are not a monolith. I'll bet you…
/r/MensRights17/11/22 02:08 PM
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I tried interacting on that sub on that very question and it was so frustrating. They're so entrenched and they have a specific definition of MRAs as nothing but anti-feminists.
/r/EverydayMisandry17/11/22 01:42 PM
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I think reasonable modern women expects to share provider, protector and domestic responsibilities with their men. I think she would expect to contribute equally to a conversation. If not she's not reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:54 AM
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I think everyone should reevaluate their standards if they are not able to partner up. If a man or woman is constantly facing rejection in the context of a set of standards, it's very possible those standards are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 02:47 PM
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If he's pretending, yes. Often, it's perfectly natural to pull away a little bit after being rejected. It's not necessarily to punish her. Sometimes it's simply to recover emotionally and reestablish the boundaries for the friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:35 PM
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I wasn't making an argument, really. Maybe a suggestion. Instead of stating: "When Woman Can Get Abortions But Men Can't Opt Out Of Paying Child Support We Should Call It 'Abortion Privilege" I was suggesting: "When Woman Can Get Abortions But Men Can't Opt Out of Parenthood We Should Call It 'Abortion Privilege'" When a woman decides to unilaterally have a child, men are on the hook for more than mere child support.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 09:11 PM
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I would say men can't opt out of parenthood. It's more than just child support.
/r/MensRights08/11/22 07:49 PM
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Maybe he's an anomaly. I don't think so. It seems more likely that the progression of your relationship on the terms that you required suited him. I'm not saying that he didn't sacrifice a little. However, healthy people typically won't sacrifice or put at risk their own happiness for 4 or more years for a tentative commitment from a partner. (man or woman).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:34 PM
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My wife is kind and thoughtful. She has a great sense of humor. I think she loves me for the same reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:32 AM
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Everyone has to adjust their expectations whenever they receive feedback. Women are the gatekeepers of sex and dating. Men who get rejected repeatedly by a certain types of woman may need to consider who they are targeting. Men are the gatekeepers of long term relationships. Women who complain that every guy she dates is a "player" and won't commit probably needs to consider who they are targeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 10:33 PM
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The text of the tweet: "Of all journalists killed in 2021, 11% were women. In 2020, this was 6%. (Source: u/UNESCO ) On the International Day to #EndImpunity for Crimes against Journalists, let us say out loud: 𝐒𝐓𝐎𝐏 𝐓𝐀𝐑𝐆𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍𝐆 𝐖𝐎𝐌𝐄𝐍 𝐉𝐎𝐔𝐑𝐍𝐀𝐋𝐈𝐒𝐓𝐒 ​ 89% of Journalists killed were men, yet UN Women says, stop targeting women. It's dismissive of men's lives. It's against men, whether intentional or not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/22 02:57 AM
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No, I don't really care. There are so much worse things to worry about.
/r/MensRights03/11/22 05:52 PM
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I think that's the problem, right? Women and children seem to have intrinsic value to society. Men have to provide, sacrifice and die in order to be deemed valuable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/22 05:59 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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