Gavin Newsom's executive order

Langland88 · 2025-08-22T08:28:34+00:00

While it's a good start, I am skeptical about the Democrats trying to take men's issues seriously. As it's been talked about plenty this subreddit, this feels like a stunt for Democrats trying to win back men and male voters. Therefore, this just feels like a political stunt aimed to prove the Democrats care about men all of a sudden after years of demonizing those same men to win brownie points with women.

markov_antoni · 2025-08-22T14:21:51+00:00

This is basically nothing. The explicit language of the order is to "develop recommendations", "identify opportunities", and fundraise for generalized social programs.

They're just putting a glaze of men's interests ontop of an executive order Newsom was going to issue anyway. This is only a new skin, not a new approach.

They even disclaim multiple times that the pursuit of men's welfare is not mutually exclusive with supporting women within the same executive order. They're starting the conversation by giving ground to those hostile to men's interests, when there should be no need to defend or rationalize actions to improve the welfare of half of California's population.

This is just Democrats being Democrats as usual. Nothing has been learned, and if voters support this as 'enough' nothing will be learned.

Fuzzy_Department2799 · 2025-08-22T17:12:26+00:00

Its about optics. He is prepping his presidential run and the democrats are finally acknowledging why they lost so much of the young male vote. When they actually start doing something other than executive orders phrased so vaguely to be absolutely meaningless than I might be slightly impressed.

theMostProductivePro · 2025-08-22T12:53:28+00:00

This seems ok on the surface. But I need to wonder, the only funding for education I saw was for building trades. A large group of people in those trades now are getting ICE-d. Is he trying to address the coming shortage of building trades by using men who are already under represented in every social service to fill the gap and pretend he's doing them favor?

KarateInAPool · 2025-08-22T15:59:24+00:00

Men’s issue won’t be addressed until our Woman issue is. For men’s issues to get better, women’s will get worse from their present very privileged state.

bodyisT · 2025-08-22T09:04:24+00:00

It’s a good start. I hope it’s sincere and not just to win men over like when he threw trans people under the bus for more conservative votes

webernicke · 2025-08-22T20:48:25+00:00

It's very important in this moment to keep up the pressure.

Newsom is gearing up for his presidential run. He seems to be hitting a stride with his online trolling campaign against Trump and now moves like this, very transparently meant to drum up a more male-friendly, blue version of MAGA, and I think Democrats are likely to fall in line with this strategy. And it's probably going to work since no one, left or right, is likely to replicate the anomaly of Trump's personality cult once he's out of office.

But this is exactly where we need to actually hold the Democrats collective feet to the fire. We should not let ourselves be wowed by the simple fact that we're being payed attention to, but instead make it clear that they need to constantly earn our vote. Don't let Newsom and the Dems secure the win in '28 and then think they can go back to the woke, man-hating usual business.

From now on, they need to sweat about the male vote. Every single election.

The days of men towing the party line for everyone else's benefit are over.

omegaphallic · 2025-08-22T07:57:11+00:00

Is a good start.

OhHolyCrapNo · 2025-08-22T15:10:23+00:00

Don't get it mixed up: caring about men's votes is not the same as caring about men.

_not_particularly_ · 2025-08-22T12:51:24+00:00

Just the fact that the Overton Window is being moved in the right direction is positive

Local-Willingness784 · 2025-08-22T21:35:16+00:00

i know that people here are very wary of shit like this, in regards to this being a political move to get men as pawns in the game for votes, but as much as i see and share the sentiment that the dems seem one mask away from the #thefutureisfemale #killallmen, isnt the "woke" manhating shit also a mask? like, do those people actually care about anything or are always pandering away to get away with shit? its not a rhetorical question btw but i actually want to know if they are firm with the idpoil stuff at least or if they are just a gigantic grift with three shareholders in a trenchcoat simulating being leftist in the American landscape.

CoachDT · 2025-08-23T02:21:07+00:00

I dont think this sub is filled with LEFTWING male advocates based on a few convos I've had and seen over the last few weeks.

Gavin should do more. But even this in itself is better than 99% of republican politicians. Yet folks are still shitting on him and saying they're being "used" for their vote.

Thats how politics work. They're going to pass policy to help to gain our vote. And for them to keep doing that we need to carry the momentum there. Why would they ever help a group that decides to slap their hand away and accept the absolute nothingburger of republican policy?

kohaku_no_mori · 2025-08-22T18:25:21+00:00

I think this is a good move in the right direction, but I have no doubt Gavin Newsom is doing it for political clout and not genuine care. I believe he’s a politician in the most negative sense of the word, as I think he made very clear when he campaigned on progressive promises in the wake of Bernie Sanders and then proceeded to not follow through on many those promises.

But even then he did make more useful progress than his predecessors, so even politically motivated improvements are still improvements.

But to me the greatest indicator of whether things have really changed will be if Democratic backed legislation, and not just executive orders, start appearing and are passed. That takes more coordinated attempts by party members and is thus a better indicator of the Democratic party as a whole making changes in regards to their actions to boys and men.

It’s also possible that Gavin Newsom will try and run for president in 2028, which might put male issues directly on the ballot there.

Shadowgills · 2025-08-24T07:33:16+00:00

This is not gonna be enacted in a benevolent way.

mggrath-it · 2025-08-24T19:23:07+00:00

I have noticed over the last few years, in the US and UK, liberals are generally trying to appeal more to men, particularly young men, and address a few men's issues. However, as others have pointed out, it's more than likely all for show. Democrats realized they lost the young male vote, so they're trying to appeal to them.

Pretend_Mark_5143 · 2025-08-22T17:58:20+00:00

It seems like it could be good. I just don’t know because democrats really kinda suck at helping men sometimes. At least they do care about mental health unlike a lot of republicans who just want all men to shove it down and be “alphas”

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