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Social IssuesLocal-Willingness784/r/MensRights03/12/24 07:34 PM
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CMVLocal-Willingness784/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:54 AM
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Question For MenLocal-Willingness784/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 03:04 AM
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People are less social, plus something about working more, going outside less and moving out later on are also big factors. The economy could also be an issue, but opinions seem to be divided on that, according to what I have seen. I'm not sure if the personal opinions or changing views are the cause of this, but more of a symptom of the stuff i have already written.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:39 AM
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this seems somewhat similar to some blackpill/incel talking points? like there is nothing you can do to be attractive as much as you are or arent attractive? maybe its just common sense at this point but, more on your post, i dont think there is too much that you can do if someone is not into you, but there is a lot you can do even if she is into you that can make you look worse so i imagine that counts as effort to get (or maybe keep?) a woman, dont be unlikable instead of be likeable, and by t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:41 PM
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this could be somewhat more agreeable if it 1) this wasnt a caricature of redpill beliefs based on probably guys here or other weird internet forums and 2) there were better alternative beliefs that helped men get thru dating, sex and relationships, and while i myself am more inclined to the blackpill (if we are even allowed to say that here) i also know that redpill is a reaction to a whole lot of bullshit that some men could have been told or believe from both men, women and society, and as mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 05:30 PM
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whereas attitudes toward women noticeably shifted. as in they have worsened?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/26 03:38 PM
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if i agree with just the literal title of the post but disagree with the lot of bullshit on the post itself, do i have to comment here or under the clanker?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:33 AM
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men also have responsability for getting with women like this, and tolerating or even encouraging this shit and sucks if i sound like a mysandrist but enough is enough.
/r/MensRights23/07/26 02:08 AM
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cool to know, i think your age, and your job have a lot more to do with your opinion rather than a whole generation of men being pussies, but if the others didnt couldnt get the point across i dont think i will so, i will leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:30 PM
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how old are you bro? just out of curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:24 PM
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i agree heavely with people not giving a fuck about men and mens rights but also have to say that reddit is a shithole, in general, for men and specially for either anti-feminism or mens causes, so while i do think people dont give a shit about men outside, Reddit (or the mods on the subs) is actively against men and out causes. also you can know that "person" who banned you felt REALLY grown up by telling you that shit, clown world, and i bet my nuts thats a man and a feminist or tradcon at tha…
/r/MensRights18/07/26 07:49 PM
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mostly agree but still way too many women (and men) really like to think about women (and themselves) as very high-minded and not at all like the savage males who go after tits and asses,as if women werent the same about height, muscles and other secondary sexual characteristics of men. Basically, I agree and think that people shouldnt beautify horniness to make women seem better, cause believe it or not is not onl naive or deluded or cruel or stupid guys thinking this shit, lots of women like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:19 AM
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Women are incredibly intuitive beings when it comes to determining whether someone is authentic if this whole rant is relying on the female intuition bullshit i can see how everything else from it is wrong , i was expecting people to leave that shit behind with other superstitions, but i guess we cool with them if it paints women as better or more civilised, developed or just better than men....
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:55 AM
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aside from the social comentary, or the attempt of it, is this guy humble bragging? or just braging? virtue signaling or something? i just cant put my mind on it but this seems like an ego thing, aside from the stupid take at the side.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 04:09 PM

kind of was expecting the same blue-pilled "purple-pilled" idiots who always talk about their marriage and kids and shit to be here genuflecting and apologising for being men, don't know if I'm too early for that or if those guys grew a spine for real.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:04 AM
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yeah, have you talked to young guys in the UK about this irl? just out of curiosity
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:31 PM
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The solutions and situations are completly different tho? you are completly in control of your technology use habits and phone use but you really cant control a lack of third spaces, lack of people to practice social skills with, not having the time to date cause you have to work and work to afford to survive etc. those are simply not equivalent iissues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:48 PM
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you think there is something out there, not social media, maybe some social or economic change that could have changed for young guys trying to do what you did? anything at all aside from the damn phone?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:24 PM
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ah, that shit about guys being weird social media-brained and you being all cool and getting bitches because of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:21 PM
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you think there is anything different from way back in the day when you tried that shit and today? like anything at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:57 AM
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libs and the like sometimes do kind of sort of mention men, when they need votes or want to sound more convincing or kind or stuff like that, virtue signaling and opportunism basically, tho i agree with your point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/26 02:55 AM

What if they are not even larping bro? What if they really are this stupid for real and say what they really mean here? what if more people out there are like those here and just dont show it? bit dramatic and wouldnt want to freak out like this but look at the comments even on this same thread.... and somehow the dating subs are horseshit? The worst by far is redpilled women and those "dating over x" subs, and the feminist subs have to be a social experiment or something, cause men wouldnt get …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:30 AM
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male gooners are not productive plus male sexuality is just an ick, unless it happens to be exactly how women (in plural) want it to be (and they are not a monolith btw...) but i really think its more about economics, with how much men do to impress or fuck or court women and how much they spend, it kind of make sense for society to shame gooners and the like, its one less taxpayer/cannon fodder/spender so if you can whip them up into being complacent with shame, you can bet thats what they will…
/r/MensRights08/07/26 01:01 AM
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is there any other sub where people discuss these topics (gender, dating etc) aside from this one? like one that actually has engagement and debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:46 AM
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kind of wonder where are the hordes of millennials and the like who fucking hate anything less than bluepilled takes? i would have bet they would be over the moon writing "this" and going on about their very anecdotal stories while shitting on guys for not going out and shit but i dont see that many, if any of them here?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:33 PM
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pure gynocentris and it goes deeper than that, its in our genes and there doesnt seems a lot that we can do about it, even if people see it, and they don't even want to see it....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:55 PM
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"the enemy is weak and strong at the same time"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/26 02:07 AM
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soft power and all that, who gets to decide that a man saying stuff is him "trauma dumping" or being "toxicly masculine" but a woman saying stuff is just "venting" "opening up" "being pro-social" and shit like that? like its not hard to win in a game you make the rules up and men are not the ones defining those when it comes to feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:58 AM
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plenty of 5'8 balding dudes with partners thats not being a baddie and i think thats what your comment was about? but whatever i should know better with women on this site.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:47 PM

incredible how this became "but men and make and they dont know" thing when this was about people lying and stated vs attractive preferences and features, this sub is great.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:18 PM
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kind of sounds like jestering to me but hey, to each their own, ig.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:08 PM
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you can imagine whatever you want, doesnt means its real.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:07 PM
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A 5'8 balding man needs to be a baddie too. you gotta pick one
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:59 PM
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Not my point but just by looks, without personality, are most women not attracted to most guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:22 PM
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not having a "believe all women" de-facto policy or practice and not defaulting men to being guilty until proven innocent against any and all women could be a step foward, plus also there is this weird belief that only men can be violent and women are helpless and stuff, tho thats mostly ideological, if you want something more practical i guess guides and protocols about female-on-male violence and gender violence against men could be implemented but i thing that the two things i mentioned first…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 11:45 PM
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indirect when compared to mens means of violence, like physical fights and stuff like that, gossiping and reputational damage are way more indirect than punching and insulting someone on their face, crocodile tears is a way that many, and i mean MANY, women use to get away from bullshit they did, even in courts, where they get more lenient sentences than men for the same acts, and while men can and do those things, male bullying and female bullying are quite different, and again, women prefer in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 11:43 PM
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do you really think that feminists stand behind men when they are disadvantaged compared to women? like in college enrollment rates, homelessness, deaths by workplace accidents, and suicides? do you really see women rallying behind men in the way you see women helping other women?
/r/MensRights05/07/26 11:39 PM
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gossiping, false alegations, reputational damage, crocodile tears, to name a few, maybe violence by proxy as i mentioned in my comment but idk if thats what the other commenter means.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 01:15 AM
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bit like violence by proxy, but idk,all this indirectness kind of creates tension that its hard to articulate and probably harder to release, for men who are victims (and even calling men victims feel wrong somehow)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 01:13 AM
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guess i should be asking then, do you want men to be feminist? and if so, why?
/r/MensRights04/07/26 10:46 PM
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do you expect men to stand behind your causes your just because?
/r/MensRights04/07/26 08:02 PM
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fragmented cultures do give birth to more and more radical echo chambers, so there is that as well. im pretty sure thats also the biggest cause of rampant mysandry and male hate on the internet, so its not exactly cool.
/r/MensRights03/07/26 05:29 PM
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some would argue that it was on women who "choose" the genes to pass on and didnt die in childbirth but you are right.
/r/MensRights03/07/26 05:28 PM
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-kind of weird how trad and redfem talking points (men need to do better women are perfect) go full circle at some point. -i know that most if not all, women think the same (except maybe if they like their partners, as "one of the good ones") so having this shit in the open is cool to know who agrees and who disagrees with it, and act accordingly.
/r/MensRights03/07/26 05:25 PM
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i think he is saying that men undesirable in the apps would be undesirable irl and vice versa, if i understood correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:12 PM
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would this apply to personality? like if you are really cool, convenient, funny, kind whatever you want to put that is not looks, and you know you dont have the looks to pull it off without personality, is she also after what you bring and not who you are? im not even assuming thats the case but i want to know where do guys or just people here draw the line....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 03:34 AM
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one has institutional backing and the other doesn't, so what do you think?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 03:39 PM
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the manosphere isnt real and is more of a strawman to group men they dont like but yeah, at least blackpill and redpill have nothing in common, they are probably opposites but thats if you care about the subject, and thats not most people, even less journalists and "experts"
/r/MensRights30/06/26 02:04 AM
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maybe it is also a way to not be seen as THAT shallow? like saying "we are all struggling to make a living and dating is hard" is kind of chic, but saying "this guy is bitchlesss because he is short, bald and ethnic" just doesn't roll off the tongue that easily, and kind of makes women seem as shallow as men are (and we cant have that)
/r/MensRights30/06/26 02:02 AM
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i think the problem has more to do with men not living up to whatever idea people (most women) think they should have, you know, as taxpayers and persuers and shit like that, the idea of men abandoning those roles could hurt them indirectly (less taxpayers, less simps, less atention, less money etc) so they are stopgaping and saying shit to make it more palatable for them
/r/MensRights30/06/26 01:59 AM
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yeah, your last paragraph especially hits what ive been thinking about, and i think that there is still too much gaslighting/bootstraping about the topic to let guys (or anyone but specially guys) grief the life that they will never live or know they havent lived with regards to romance and sex, plus there is waay too much hyperagency involved when talking about guys falling at dating (as in everything is his responsibility) so, as much as i like your idea, i dont know how feasible this type of …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 01:56 AM
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its more of a problem for them because they have to listen to "dudes whining about nothing" (as most dont deal with anything close to male loneliness or dating stuff) and maybe kind of sort of care to make a moral panic out of their own sense of disgust and fear for men they dislike, i know they will never care or even pretend to care but i really think there must be a way to make things better, or at least i want to think so,and it wont involve women (hopefully)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 01:46 AM
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werent people telling incels that everyone was dating/getting married and they just needed to be normal and not be weird and just talk to women and and and and.... kind of weird that the discussion is just mainstream now, i wonder if Western societies will reach Japan's levels of inceldoom/birthrates in this decade...
/r/MensRights28/06/26 10:37 PM
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i think that the disagreeableness of most men, myself included, and our lack of in-group biases towards other men make social interactions easier, if that makes sense? I couldn't pinpoint it specifically, but i think there are less implications and double meanings on male to male comunication and less social bullshit, if that makes sense? its a really important difference in communication that i notice but ironically enough, I just dont have the language to adress it, its something easier about …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/26 10:30 PM
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im saying that more out of my own experiences with those forums or that content, and wouldn't want other men to go through it, and for sure i dont owe women policing of other men (god knows they would love to have other men "protecting them" because they are women), but this comes from my own empathy, i guess.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/26 02:08 AM
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You assume that tall women want to marry short men?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/26 02:01 AM
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when only 15% of women are interested in men who are more than a single inch under the median height man, you are neccesarily going to have a system where half of the men aren't even seen as potential candidates for 85% of women. "oh but its not like 50% of men are single, most are married, and i know a 5ft poor guitarist that rakes in pussy"-actual comment that i got when talking about ts. this is obviously going to cause resentment from those men and it's totally valid for them to feel that wa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/26 01:59 AM
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shorter women also want taller men, not men taller than them but men taller than other men, so its kind of a race to the bottom, i think.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 09:54 PM
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eh, it was worth a shot, maybe someone else here may have experience dealing with this, or at least wont make it about women and "entitled men" and whatnot, as happens in other subs where i have seen discussions about this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 09:52 PM
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Is there any hope for short kings? no but that aside, is there any way to break this into society and other guys, especially younger guys, without making it "blackpilling" or without making a fuss about it like the "body positivity" thing does? Because I know that incel spaces are mostly bad for the mental health of most guys, or most people really, and body positivity (if it even works for women *wink* *wink* ozempic) not only is not helping guys but also wouldn't change anything about womens p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 08:54 PM
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can you even read sarcasm or were all of those posts about autism just pure projection?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:45 PM
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yeah, i do
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:53 PM
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k
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:52 PM
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sure
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:49 PM
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yes, i do want you to agree that women should date people they're not attracted to and give in to men and date the first one that comes along, despite no attraction, or no compatibility that they know of. why are you asking something you already answered?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:47 PM
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While it's true that women are becoming more left-leaning, most men seem to be either dropping out of politics or not moving from their positions (that, for instance, in the UK seem to be left-center), the only place where men seem to be reliably moving right in meaningful ways is south Korea, for a myriad of reasons, even the article that began the whole narrative shows mostly women becoming leftleaning at great rates instead of men becoming right wing in any similar capacity. https://www.ft.co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/26 07:01 PM
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i really blame those guys for playing along or actually encouraging that bullshit bro, it always be your own people....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/26 09:23 PM
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its all something n between rage-bait, venting, poorly thought-out rants, generalisations, and al that packaged into something she vaguely thinks will give clicks/comments to her post, like almost all posts here really, more personal projection rather than any kind of debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:28 PM
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HR as an industry and career path is predominantly female-dominated, and as we know, women in general have a huge in-group bias, so the bias goes even deeper.
/r/MensRights23/06/26 07:33 PM
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i think they just like being cruel, basically without repercussions, as men and especially struggling men and male struggles are free real state for that, like i think its almost incentivised to make fun or worse to men,
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/26 04:23 PM
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no, i know feminist women who get some whipped boytoy or "chill guy" who just kind of nods along and its (mostly) hot, not necesarely conservative but more of a "trophy wife" but for insuferable women, tho of course they will be on their knees for a guy who happens to be hot enough even if the is a conservative, criminal, racist or whatever, same shit that happens with chuds who want a goth baddie or some hot progressive (or seemengly progressive) girl, ideology goes out the window when the croa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/26 04:13 PM
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wasnt there a small moral panic in NY because apparently men were doing that to women or something? i remember people cared when the apparent victims were women but this kind of shit happens all the fucking time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/26 08:30 PM
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According to some people here and on Reddit in general, any guy who is partnered would be good, as only bad/morally bankrupt/misogynists are single and struggling for it... most people are just kind of there? not particularly good or bad, just there, maybe decent maybe not, depending on circumstances and stuff, a minority would be particularly bad and another would be particularly good, tho that goes for most people, men, women or something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 08:20 PM
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im not even sure reality, as in men that they care about dying because they are men, in wars and stuff, would make women care, or society in general, sorry if it sounds too doomer but thats how i feel.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/26 09:03 PM
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its too convenient of an ideology for women to pass up, even for conservative women so i dont see it going away any time soon if ever, tho i do think there were some stats about less people declaring themselves as feminists, while at the same time there were more young women going farther left and therefore farther feminist so idk.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/26 06:53 PM
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its vaguely wrong in the same way many of other leftist "content creators" are about men and many other topics, they use vaguely good-feeling words, some scapegoat, try or signal the best intentions and end up either wanting men to be more like women (or like how they see women as better in general) or want men to be some form of protector/provider etc but for their shit, their causes, their relationships, their oppinions, their ideology etc. also some stuff about wanting men to do things but no…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/26 04:11 AM
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not sure if im over-reaching but, do all of those impossibly handsome/rich/dark/handsome hostie/traumatised but kind to the female lead characters on smut or romantasy novels would count as mysandry? cause i know guys get crap from feminists and women in general for reading wish-fulfilment stuff full of unrealistic women in videogames and anime and if that is misogyny, then i was wondering if Wattpad or AO3 or the libraries and publishers of romantasy and smut slop books would be doing the same …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/26 09:18 PM
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date women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:28 AM
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how the fuck do you lot want and get to be both bossbitches and victims at the same fucking time? "We don't need no men" but men do need to do better for women, always, cant you see the contradiction in that? why are you even saying and "advicing" so much to people who apparently you lot dont even want/need?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:21 PM
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The differences in experiences are huge, and you seem to be doing the same shit as the men you talk about here, it seems like you already made up your mind about the topic before the debate even began.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:36 PM
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mostly reddit is a business, mysandry at worst doesn't harm their corporate interests, nor shareholder value, and at best it may be actually beneficial/profitable to be a man-hating site, or ignoring the hate, if it brings profit, changing that would requite a change in culture and maybe a change of biology (at least to some extent) and even then who knows if it will work, having said that, yes, reddit is a shithole, and reporting hate speech is still important, just not effective, for economic …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/26 10:01 PM
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you dont need to beg for care or acknowlegment to post here, you can post for any other reason, you just project a lot, like in all your other posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:43 PM
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it almost sounds like you want men to tell you to care, but idk, again, debating and stating a topic doesn't mean they are begging you to care, its just posting on the internet, it can be with any other intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:42 PM
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they shouldn't, nor should they care about women's dating issues either (if they have any) also debating about it on the internet, especially here, doesn't necessarily mean they want you to care, just to debate about it, those are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:55 PM
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wild coming from someone who cant STFU herself and posts here almost daily but yeah, guys shouldnt be expecting shit from women here, but if they keep trying its honestly on them at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:11 PM
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we're supposed to have endless compassion for every minuscule problem a woman might encounter and act as their disposable servants. In return, we get scorn and demonization. tbf if men stopped that bullshit from the get-go and had a hundredth of the care they have towards women, or at least stoped going against men in favour of crumbs of validation, we would have less issues as a gender, in general, but thats the culture we live in and to some extent is in out biology so there is not a lot we ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:09 PM
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wrong on all accounts but mostly on the fact that posting here doesn't mean they want you to care, you dont have to care about something to debate about it and the responses here mostly show either lack of care or ignorance, nothing to do with what most people would want when they talk about their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:07 PM
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cause it is a relationships/gender war sub, thats what this is about, what are you expecting? you do the same thing here, im sure many people would also like you to STFU about whatever bullshit you post almost daily, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:00 PM
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are we pretending that women care about men's dating issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:50 PM
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is this an appeal to "treat women like women beings" or some stuff that people want to say to make men treat women however they think they should? in your case by not pushing them to sexualize themselves, as if they were victims of their own actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:49 PM
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not sure if this counts as diverting the topic but i think its something like race, when you are non-white, you have the stereotypes of your colour trhust upon you just because, plus masculinity as a can/club to beat you into conformity, despite who you really are, both are ways in which you can be characterised or misunderstood and i think that neurodivergence functions in the same way, a double edged sword to bully you and yet to make into something usefull/convenient for other people, and alm…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/26 07:15 PM
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kind of surprised that more people, especially women here, arent upvoting or supporting this, be it for their onw egos, to stir shit up or to shit on men, i guess even they knew this bait is too unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:56 PM
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A maybe? but at some point no visitors would be better as I would get too attached to whoever came and would need whoever comes more and more, and i wouldn't like that at all
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:19 PM
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i dont know if this should be relieving, because most women i know are nothing like this but its also kind of weird and almost disturbing that this woman has thousands of views and (even niche) popularity...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/26 03:32 AM
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*with women here, not women in general
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:07 PM
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my personal grievance on that topic is that some if not most of the most vindictive, smug, stupid and ill-intentioned people using that word as an insult or as a way to make themselves feel better are men, and that really got me tripping, it do be your own people most of the time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 03:22 AM
3

Tinmen used to sub here btw
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/26 03:17 AM
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i hope you are lying about it bro, don't want those people to be real....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 04:55 PM
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We criminalise when men do it tho, but i do get your point is just that the idea of ts being imposed on us by nature has been going around my head lately and is making more and more sense....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 04:44 PM
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maybe there is a biological component to it? i know this shouldnt be the focus on a leftist place like this but more and more it seems like all of this gynocentrism maybe how humans operate or are meant to operate,
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/26 04:05 PM
0

what dating woes tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:28 PM
1

it always be your own
/r/MensRights01/05/26 05:49 PM
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and even if there was a uniquely male problem regarding loneliness, what the fuck is up with these reactions? The mockery, the skits, the articles, fearmongering etc, is that how you treat a person? a person who is suffering? is this supposed to make things better?
/r/MensRights01/05/26 05:42 PM
1

last "advice" hits hard and even harder when you see all the pandering that women get for the exact same issue
/r/MensRights01/05/26 05:38 PM
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it sounds good, but you aren't the best messenger for the cause, or honestly, any men who says things like you or agrees with points expressed by women here, without knowing you tho, its nothing personal but nothing good really tends to come out of men who agree with women here, or with men who defend women too much or bash other men too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:24 PM
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its not exactly convincing coming from someone who is bashing men and agreeing with feminism on other comments and no, i dont think that whatever change these women want that happens to benefit them also happens to benefit men, it just seems to me like they dont really have our best interests in mind, and i could say the same about redpill grifters and people like that but for real, i cant read your comments and comments of other women here and pretend they know or even want to know whats best f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:18 PM
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in abstract i agree with you but when i see so many women going about men needing to do this and that, like apparently women do, when i reality they dont even have the same issues that we have and its a way to shame or silence guys into either being feminist or "learning" from women (mostly shit that doesnt fits) i just don't think we are allowed to do our thing without it somehow benefiting women, like having men be less desperate or lonely, not because we are people and stuff but because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:07 PM
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shows how desperate men are for a little of validation, and if that validation comes from an attractive women or a cute female anime avatar....
/r/MensRights27/04/26 02:02 AM
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asking for empathy here, asking for empathy from women and asking empathy from women here is where they went wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:58 AM
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is this even debatable? not because you are completly right and so much so that no one can debate you but can a blackpilled/redpilled dude show groups or communities or channels or people who say the opposite of what you say, would that make you change your mind or anyone elses who believes what you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 11:57 PM
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How do you even react to that? even assuming that it is super cathartic or important or whatever positive spin you want to put it on, what do you even do then?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:46 AM
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dating apps, social media and social isolation are one hell of a thing.
/r/MensRights24/04/26 02:22 AM
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im not gonna given them more clicks but are we pretending that those women aren't attracted to men who follow the "manosphere" as if they would be attracted to them if they weren't? like i do think that rejecting someone on their beliefs is probably normal, but assuming women really wanted them i think they would do more rather than vaguely complain or do other stuff, like seeking men themselves, yet that is not happening...
/r/MensRights23/04/26 04:46 PM
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to some exetent i dont think women are that attracted to most men if at all, and i dont know if that is an incel point but at the very least men seem to want women more than however much women want them, on average at least. also there are way more needy/desperate guys right now, i think for a bunch of social and cultural reasons, i dont know if that will change with age, but at least the very few women who seem "desperate" are probably desperate for a top guy, dont think they will land one as t…
/r/MensRights23/04/26 04:43 PM
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Some of this shit is usefull to know who is who and really see how susceptible, guilable and/or malicious people really are, it happens from time to time with shows or hoxes like this but there is something almost catartic, at least to me, in knowing that people really are like this about men, makes me feel like im not crazy in a way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/26 10:21 PM
1

if you say so...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:15 PM
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Read the comment of the woman above that I'm discussing with, seriously, it's like they want something to fight against no matter what.... one would think all of those years of empowerment would make them less insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:46 AM
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more or less half of young men also dont want children, i repeat it multiple times and have a study about it on my comment....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:45 AM
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yeah, thats really cool and you are really cool, but what im trying to say that lots (43% or so) of men your age are also cool like that, and not exactly begging or even asking you or other women to do anything, they are somewhat less likely to agree with you on having kids or not, but as hard to believe as it is, many also want to do other stuff, and not get even more responsabilities, even if you dont think they would take them, based on your comment about mothering guys. they are also about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:58 AM
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While 57% of young men say they want children one day, a smaller share of young women (45%) say the same. Another 2023 Pew Research Center survey found that American adults of all ages tend to say job satisfaction and having close friends are very important in order to live a fulfilling life. They are much less likely to say the same about being married or having children. Among all adults ages 18 to 34, 20% say being married is extremely or very important for people to live a fulfilling life, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:37 PM
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but if most women are partnered and most women are straight, do they also have a low opinion of their male partners or are those the exception? like "One of the good ones" type of thing.
/r/MensRights21/04/26 02:35 AM
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yes boy, maybe ill send you some videos of me fucking if you need me to but why are you so mad cause i took that post like that? are you defending women or projecting yourself when i say they could be settling or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:23 PM
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it can be some evolutionary thing like, if he isnt as authentically attractive as she feels he should be, he is bad investment for reproduction and should be avoided, hence the icks for PUA shit or surgeries or stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:54 PM
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makes them feel cheated or icked that it could happen to them and they could end up with a non-chad or someone like that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:52 PM
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what women and this woman who is posting describe is a man above the average, i dont care what you think about me, thats how the post comes across, if a man is better (has a bigger penis, is taller and richer than most men) then by logic they want more than the average men, they would be settling if they dont get what they want but again, thats just based on this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:36 PM
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Men only find a small number of women attractive so women should be free to also have preferences. this one is a lie but the rest of the post should be shared and shown when people say "women love average guys" when in reality, by your own fucking admission, you lot like significantly above average, and probably, most likely, are just settling for other guys later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:18 PM
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Meaning? What do you mean by a priority? That it matters to any degree? Or that it should be the only thing that matters? it meants you dont get a relationship of you dont get dates, and you dont get dates if you arent attractive so, its step 0 out of the whole thing, its that important. Walk me through where the disconnect is. its in general, in your post, you put it as something that only men are wrong about when women are also bad communicators, as both sides refuse to see the other point of …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:52 PM
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Why does that bother you? What do you mean by that? If you wanted to know about looks, why didn't you ask about it? Also, do you guys just date women you find ugly? Because for most people physical attraction in dating is a given. if it is so obvious (as it is), shouldn't it be a priority to get dates? also the fact that both parties or whoever understands something differently doesn't mean that one is better than the other or one comunicates better, they are under different asumptions and if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:27 PM
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The answers to the "wrong" or vague type of questions still say a lot about them like how its always super moral and not shallow at all, when again, men and women for instance go for looks first when it comes to attraction so advice for looks should be a priority for all people, yet that's not what they advise on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:16 PM
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i guess guys could be more specific but people in general vurtue signal a lot about their preferences and what they say they want and what they actually want is pretty different, and women are somewhat more likely to do this for social reasons, tho men also do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:10 PM
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would this translate as well to guys who are into cuckolding? it seems pretty one-sided thing as well so idk if they would also be "Not in love" with the women who are cuckolding them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:01 PM
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not helping people who help you is a common sense thing but i wish people here expressed themselves better cause women say shit like this all the time, and everyone gasses them up....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 11:29 PM
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as much as i want guys to be on trades or STEAM if they really want to, the falling off of opportunities on other fields, the destruction of the job market and wealth accumulation by a few and this weirdly strong push by Silicon Valley and big-tech millionaires for men to be on manual labour seems to me sometimes more like a way to "squeeze the peasants" until their AI can replace us all, even better if the population doesnt value other "less usefull" fields and just works like serfs and disdain…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 10:52 PM
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and even if boys really were weirdos with their weird-ass chatbots (cause its all a shaming tactic) if we cared about boys as a population, woulnt it be important to know why? why would they feel they want a chatbot instead of a person? could it be a social issue? something affecting men? something that potentially could be a wide social change manifesting in boys but says something about society in general?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 10:42 PM
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cults are mostly exploitative/manipulative if not outright abusive/hostile, so if they are against their will there, they are victims and deserve help and empathy, like women who grew in one without knowing better, or were coerced into it. Sidechicks on the other hand either want to ignore the other women if they can be with their chad or willingly know about them and want to be a part of the arrangement, they fully consent to it so whatever comes out of it is their responsibility as (i hope) gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:37 PM
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Those boyfriends either really have low self-esteem or are really horny cause i dont see how you can accept that shit for your relationship, tho i wonder if there is data for that discrepancy on the average straight woman, as in if most of them really feel negative about men, I don't see how they just dont stop dating them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 07:18 PM
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And both guys could look exactly the same, but I'd only really be interested and attracted to the first guy cuz I feel more drawn to that type of man all things being equal i guess it could be it, but due to the halo effect, the vibes are kind of projected into the good-looking man even without knowing anything about him and kind of justify the physical attraction, even if he is not like that or if a less attractive man is more the "vibe" than the good looking one is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:46 PM
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i dont know you and can only take your word for whatever you think but that demi-sexual-esque narrative is something that a lot of women tell themselves to not be shallow (or not be like men), but at the end of the day, a sufficiently attractive guy kind of makes types go away, and the beauty standard is pretty uniform for everyone. bit like conservative guys saying shit about wanting tradwives but lusting after liberal e-girls if they are hot enough, types go out of the way when the attraction …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:40 PM
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she made sense on some topics before getting into gender stuff so personally its kind of disappointing (or enlightening) to see how she treats men and women so differently and with such a double standart specially as many feminist are actually like her, as i have heard her takes be repeated by other feminists almost word for word
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 05:19 PM
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hold up, if most women are straight and dating men, but also most have a negative opinion of men, do they have a negative opinion of their partners? Or are they "one of the good ones" to them?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 05:14 PM
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seems to me like either they don't want you to "cheat" their attraction parameters or other women's, or it is implied you can't be as attractive when you are a stranger unless you are REALLY handsome, and then you sort of wouldn't need the advice in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:18 PM

quite useless "advice" and probably more of a way to bitch about a guy she didnt like, t-shirt or not, having said that, it doesn't require insults or whatever but thinking that guys will fall over themselves following that just because a woman said so is entitled, almost as entitled as guys thinking they wil get dates for using this or that shirt but yeah, its just dumb, not malicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:07 PM
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Incredibly based take.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:59 PM
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its kind of cool how both redpillers and pinkpillers or whatever extremism this woman believes in kind of mix up at some point, its like a horseshoe theory but for online radical ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:58 PM

no
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 12:19 AM
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This is the one that i read a while ago: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12313963/#CR21 We found strong evidence that modern humans are sensitive to the sexual history of potential partners and show a clear preference for fewer past partners. Across 15 sub-samples, there was a very large effect of past partner number, with the 13 country-specific sub-samples not only confirming the findings of earlier work21,27–29 but revealing that this effect is present not only in European and North …
/r/MensRights13/04/26 12:17 AM
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wait, you think that white people are being replaced ("outbreed" even) by immigrants or the like? are we for real?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/26 04:05 AM
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to some extent? i remember some research about men and women distrusting people with hight body counts and prefering someone around their level, as it is with assortative mating in general, but the social stigma is not the same as for women, the one that men get is the virgin-shaming that you speak about.
/r/MensRights11/04/26 08:37 PM
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still kind of weird thing to say but yeah, not hateful
/r/MensRights11/04/26 08:34 PM
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Men are inherently lookist. It’s in their biology. I believe more men settle for women than the other way around. dont these two contradict each other? if men were more "unforgiving" about looks compared to women, wouldnt they settle less as they would be less attracted to most women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:30 PM
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im not saying it doesn't count or you dont count or something, im really just saying its not relatable at all, and i guess i cant explain myself better cause its more of a personal opinion? rather than a statement about your takes or whoever you are, it just seems like you have an idea about this whole "being a man" thing, most likely a political and ideological opinion about this and it just really doesnt mesh with me or what i know, so lets just leave it at that, cause i dont really feel like …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 04:22 PM
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you sound way too much like a woman (dont know if this is an insult or a compliment for you) talking about something she doesnt knows about, like fr i could just put this in a caption of a liberal cis woman on a random video and it would fit perfectly so as much as you feel like you are that person, "seeing both sides" i dont think you are or even were. But that's just me, im not telling you who you are or what you are doing, just saying you really come across that way. and i dont know if you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:56 PM
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i dont think you knew enough about men and the male experience as (and this is something that i see a lot about trans people) the fact thar you arguibly werent a man at any moment, that you probably felt like a woman forever and mostly tend to identify as one, even in your language, just makes think that this comes across as a woman womanexplaining about something she doesnt knows, vaguely bothers her, and feels and belives has a solution to not only a problem she didnt had, but more about her b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:46 PM
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frame it as human rights instead of male rights and just issues instead of male issues, tho there is always a risk that it ends up benefiting women primarily, because of course, but at least something will get thrown at men once in a while.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/26 07:19 PM
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you wouldnt think there are more "performative males" now tho? with social media being more pervarsive and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:17 PM
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i agree with your disagreement with the OP but i got curious because most purple pill guys here seem really about distancing themselves from redpill/blackpill rethoric while your comment seems to be word-for-word something they would say so that was interesting to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:25 PM
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you only care about men not caring about men to make your own argument work, thats how little people in general care about mens rights, its only a dunk on men, always
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:14 PM
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why would this be a dunk on red or blackpillers if relationships in general are on the low? wouldnt they say only chads are in relationships now and prove themselves right? "women dont go for subhumans anymore and they are happier" or something like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:11 PM
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Ya'll just aren't all that turned on by the person you're looking at, so you need a bigger push to make it happen doesnt this go to the "women are only attracted to Chad" dynamic that some pills argue? im not saying you mean that but it seems like the same to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:01 PM
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i have also seen the drunken fights between white knights because of women (be it defending them or showing off) in bars but most people dont think of that behaviour as white-knighting. Most people dont see that as equivalent to being a pick-me for men, even tho both have the same roots in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:05 PM
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is there anyone from the UK here who knows why these things come out of their country? im not even hating and i know people living there but is there something in your culture or institutions that make these kind of feminist policy and opinions more prevalent there?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/26 03:51 PM
1

how often do you see it happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:40 PM
7

"positive masculinity"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/26 06:05 PM
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if bonds arent going to happen if men arent even considered for it for any part of the "redpill equation" then its very obvious that you need one to take the other, so you need SMV (and i hate that fucking term) to even get to be noticed and form this magical thing you want to talk about, but i guess this is more about guys talking about bullshit you dont understand or care about while you really care about bonds and chemistry and feel good stuff? cause im sure redpillers feel the same way about…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:19 PM
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many women use social media and go to clubs to get validation? plus many do get into toxic relationships cause they really crave that, tho obviously not from all men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:47 PM
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"The enemy is weak and strong at the same time"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/26 08:01 PM
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i think it also shows what they consider a man (wealthy, white, powerful, privileged) and what they dont consider a person, let alone a man (a homeless, an addict, a victim of rape by a woman etc).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/26 08:00 PM
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im sure that women dont know how it is to get no attention and fight for even what you lot would consider negative attention, plus i have seen a couple of women who do lack men who find them attractive, and they arent as enlightened as you think men should be, they are as desperate as any guy in their situation. and no, i dont think we are seeing the same thing here but we wont see eye to eye on this one so whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 07:19 PM
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we're meant to leave behind the masculine symbols of our forefathers, and embrace the new symbols of femininity. That seems more of a change from patriarchy to patriarchy by women's hand, instead of liberating men or whatever the fuck feminist think that feminism does....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/26 07:12 PM
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if you really think this is about super healthy and independent adult vs super unhealthy and dependent victim i think this has to do more with you and how you either have never lacked validation or think you are above that but whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 06:57 PM
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most people still seek validation anyways but I'm saying the feminist practices and women's stance on that in general are not comparable, cause again, most women get validation from men just because, most men dont, and most people arent above that, women just have enough, they dont "dismantle that need" they just have it satisfied or never lacked it, so their input is not that usefull
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 06:55 PM
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women are not in the same position tho, cause most can get male validation just because, so lacking it is way less of a problem for you lot, if it is a problem at all, as you dont really crave for something you dont even lack
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:57 PM
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you sound like a redpiller here...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:51 PM
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isnt this also putting this woman down? like she has to take theraphy when there are mundane reasons to be in her situation and its not mental illness or stuff like that?
/r/MensRights01/04/26 04:43 PM
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at best i hope is lack of experience, as they really dont know better until it happens to them but at worst its kind of worrying how babied and pedestalized women can get in some spaces? like they cant do wrong and stuff, but yeah, on this case its really lack of experience/not knowing better and probably plain old naiveness.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/03/26 09:56 PM

yeah, i was making the argument that asexual people and most people in general do need looks to be at least somewhat attracted to someone or at least not be repelled or disgusted by someone. and that is non-negotiable i don't know how that fits into your style of being drawn to someone, but i would also argue that most people dont have types as much as they are drawn to certain features that happen to be mostly attractive but in different combinations, but you really can not only see whats mostl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:04 PM

and asexual people can be attracted to good looks, often experiencing aesthetic attraction—the appreciation of beauty without the desire for sexual activity. While they do not feel sexual attraction, asexual individuals can find people handsome, pretty, or cute, and may enjoy looking at them in the same way one appreciates art.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:55 PM

Also, I really don’t like your framing of asexuals and Demisexuals - because ace and Demi people have eyes, we do enjoy looking at hot people, physical attraction could matter to a lot of ace and Demi people as hotness is so much more then “I wanna fuck this person” - attractive people are pleasant to look at. Those who don’t factor in looks at all are very rare and few. this was from a demi person tho, so there is that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:52 PM

hot and attractive doesnt means the same thing but there were women on that spectrum here explaining what i just told you, it makes sense to me but idk, if you can back up your claims maybe you are right,
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:49 PM
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is this a weird way to show off that you have options while (most) men do not?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:37 PM
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why are people ignoring this? this literally settles the "debate" if there was one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 10:33 PM
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why cant the anti-redpill guys pretend they are somewhat charismatic or something instead of sounding so annoying? like some Reddit mod nerd stereotype or some millennial jerking off their own cringe? i dont even want to hate on the redpilers when you guys do it, even with the right arguments, you lot somehow make them sound wrong...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 10:53 PM
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For those of you who live in countries where women have to get into the military too, doesn't it make men more likely to be on the frontlines while women get administrative or rear positions? isnt it a worse deal for men overall, especially in conscription situations?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/26 10:01 PM
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collective guilt is what they want, and as much as our culture seems to either encourage it or turn a blind eye to it when the target is acceptable (like with men) i really think that this is also mens fault in the sense that too many guys either want to be a hero/protector/good guy/"one of the good ones" and magnifies this culture rather than say something about it, from guys apologizing on behalf of other men to guys going against other men just because women say so or feel like its the right …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/26 04:30 PM
1

What dating advice have you lot got from women? preferably women irl and not anyone online.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:48 AM
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i think that niche internet cultures are taking more and more space in the mainstream and blockbusters or pop music, much less fashion, means very little to the average person and doesnt do a lot on terms of male beauty standards, for instance, as it only changes from one false standard (superheroes bodies for instance) to another false standard (like K-pop idols or very curared fememine guys) and i would even say that this quasi-worship that some feminine guys apparently get is as niche as the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:50 PM
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i could argue about chasers (if thats the term for people who only go for trans) but honestly i guess that what matters at the end of the day is being attractive, as surely all things being equal a cis guy would have more chances than a trans guy but having a guaranteed niche (even excluding chasers and counting only queer-friendly spaces) beats any unnatractive cis guy whose judge always would be the same beauty standard, and i think that one is stil present but definetly different in your comu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:43 PM
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im also GenZ and agree with all that, dont know what that means for society or what will change but your comment is also what i see irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:23 PM
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1)progressive stuff from celebrities is either performative or profit driven and not really about ther beliefs tho its a big part of the mainstream culture. 2) K-pop idols are still tall and built, and even if not action-figure masculine its not necesarely that different from the normal male beauty standard, if anything, it is more rigorous. 3)different studies do point to a big shift for women to more left-wing positions and the smaller cohort of men towards the right depend more on very specif…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:21 PM
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i already kind of responded with my other comment but as hard to believe as it is not only it is easier for you in your niche, but dating for unnatractive cis guys can be as bad as you dating outside of queer-friendly circles and with all due respect, if you had more cis guy friends who were ugly and on the younger side, you would know
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:13 PM
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you could basically date straight women from any subculture without the risk of being rejected after disclosing something you didn't choose and can't change Not at all for dating in any subculture just because, and guys get rejected for things they can't control all the time? like race, height, face, you name it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:12 PM
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completly agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:08 PM
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disagree heavily and would even say you have better chances depending on how your transition resulted, but i dont even know where to begin, do you truly think that no man is so ugly as to end up undesired even if he really tried? really?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 08:35 PM
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You can’t have a relevant take on dating if your starting position is “I’m opting out and thriving, actually.” The same goes for the now mainstream reality of male incels among Gen Z. im kind of glad someone mentions this even if im not agreeing with the other parts of the post, as yes, there are a lot of guys who do want women. Most men desire women more than what women desire them back. Still, to some extent there is a growing population of guys also ditching dating altogether as much as they …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 07:55 PM
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honestly i checked his posts and i think my comments may have been too much effort on this guy, he doesnt has ideas as much as the ideas have him and the only reason why he gets away with this psychologically is because he is on the "right (leftists) side" of things, there is just too much ego and rigtheous jerking off to get thru people like that. plus he is a milenial leftist, a milenial male feminist left wing idelogue on top of that, so my comment and attempts to comunicate shit were just a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:14 PM
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it weird how people (especially women) say they never mock virgin men and that incels are idiots and deluded when you kind of prove them right by valuing sexual experience and looks so much that not having them is an insult. maybe those were too many words to say that those women literally make incels but hey, i think people here know what im talking about.
/r/MensRights20/03/26 08:37 PM
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i wonder if this argument would be better received in other subs? cause this seems to me like something women on wider reddit would like to hear, even more if this fits their personal echo chambers or beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:05 PM
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men in power have much more in common with women in terms of leverage than they do with average men, average men have more in common with ugly and/or poor women than with successful men.
/r/MensRights18/03/26 09:19 PM
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like you really seem to want to put those guys on one category then mention something about you and make it separated and very clear who is better and who is worse and as much as your arguments may be good, you just cant seem to separate yourself from the situation or the debate. so again, it really seems like you are here to dunk on those guys and make yourself look better by that cause there are too many ways of saying what you say without getting so personal either about yourself. or the guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:59 PM
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it really doesn't seem to me like you are as personally detached from all of this as you think you are with your little experiment or whatever you are trying to pull here, as you keep putting yourself up but if you want to feel better from "debating" what you think are redpillers, then that's up to you i guess, its just seems kind of weird.... and you can say the same about bluepillers or anyone contradicting each other but i wouldnt need to put myself and my suposed progress or relationships to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:42 PM
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lets say thats true, then you are the real redpilled here? Is that what you are trying to do? To up them on their own bullshit or whatever? to be more alpha or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:33 PM
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yeah, you seem hugely interested in mocking those guys and your comments are more about you looking better in comparison to them, its weird way to pass your time if it isnt for ego reasons, even more if you dont really need ot engage in the topic of relationships if you are already married.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:45 PM
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That's because their fantasy is to be hot enough to treat women like shit. Because it's not the getting women part that's the fantasy, it's the treating them like shit. I could make an effort to be funny and charming and generally pleasant to be around. was all of this a way to stroke your own ego? really? you want or need to feel better that desperately?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:39 PM

why should we treat women who are infertile or dont have kids with the same attitude we tread fertile women or women who have kids? arent childless or infertile women an evolutionary dead end? shouldnt we treat them as losers instead of commiserating or blaming men or shit like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 03:24 PM
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no, but they sure as hell dont mind a lil bit of hate here and there, and its also not just mysandry but transphobia and racism too
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 02:28 PM
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Have you read Andra Dworkin or even some shit that the supposedly all-benevolent bell hooks writes about men? they hate men, and there is worse being written by other mysandrists as we speak, in universities and official feminist spaces also.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/26 02:27 PM
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i was going to write some stuff about the "toxic masculinity" and incels and manosphere bullshit going on the comments, but most are really based? like actually using stats and talking points used on men's rights circles and lots of support about that and other male issues? i know that Reddit is not the real world but even here, when did our positions became apparently so widely supported there? like for real people should check the comments and see how the discussion is going, i dont really car…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/26 11:01 PM
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and im also not saying you are, im just saying the term its a bad faith way to corner people and virtue signal like that documentary guy, plus legit it seems projection, they are in a movement of and/or for women whose leadership and big part of hates men, so they imagine men have their own subgroup of men who hate women, it gives legitimacy to their arguments and a strawman to point to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/26 10:47 PM
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its kind of weird to see the conservatives' arguments make more and more sense in real time because of the structural failures on the left and society at large when it comes to understanding men's issues. I absolutely hate their ideology but i can really see guys coming around to it if shit doesnt changes fast enough, and as i see it its just gonna get worse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/26 07:34 PM
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why is the UK so weird with male topics? First adolescence, then having women out of prison because WAW and now this, what is going on there? is it part of the culture or something?
/r/MensRights16/03/26 07:23 PM
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its also kind of weird how they group incels, pick up artists, redpillers, male rights advocates and MGTWs on the same thing, most of those groups hate each other and there is more difference in between "manosphere" groups compared to people outside of it. its more like a catch-all term for men either presumed or asumed to be mysoginists, or maybe its projection, as feminists themselves have lots of man haters in their groups, yet all say they want equality and/or rights, they may think that men…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/26 07:18 PM
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also too many men buy into this bullshit, either by wanting desperately not to be a loser or be accepted or because they dont fail at another proxy of masculinity and want to believe its all about their efforts and how good they are instead of maybe questioning the standards and bullshit they or other men have to go thru to be accepted , its fucking nuts
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 05:18 PM
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its weird how so many people (men and women but especially women) really fucking hate and mock the "Nice Guys(tm)" and then a guy is supposed to still do the same bullshit not only for nothing, obviously, but somehow be proud of being so subservient? serving women, families, society and obviously never himself.... and as an aside, on lots of subs and places that give advice to men struggling, especially romantically, there is so much of this double speak with men, do all this but dont be expecti…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/26 05:14 PM
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never said there was a friendship involved, one person can want to be friends and other wants something else, there is nothing wrong with that, as much as you may seem to like having friends over having sex or as much as you may hate guys who want sex instead of a relationship (specially unnatractive ones) most people want both in a romantic relationship, its sucks that you are traumatised by guys here but desire is important. Sexual desire does diferenciates a romantic relationship from a frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:33 AM
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ill try and put it this way, lets say a woman desires, as in, is aroused by a guy, and the guy just sees her as a friend at best or an emotional tampon at worst, should she continue to engage with him trying to make him desire her just as he desires her even if he clearly isnt about that and other men could have taken advantage of that asimetry before? shouldnt she have someone who is aroused by her as she is aroused by him? shouldnt everyone have someone like that if they want to? isnt that how…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:46 PM
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I can see that. My grandma outlived her husband by 20 years and she missed him but she had a thriving social life and lived independently so she was very happy. Maybe there's less housework and caring for someone when you lose your husband so it's freeing? Yep I'm sorry but you lose your other half but are also freed from slavery these were some of the tamest ones but idk man, i really dont know if i want to still use this platform with people like this all around
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/26 11:31 PM
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you dont think that most partners want to desire and be desired back? idk if that is not the case for you but yeah, i guess you wouldnt say to a woman that she has to be with someone who only puts up with her to have sex when she wants to be cared for? so i dont know why a man would put up with a woman who would want resources or emotional reassurance. If he wants to be desired he shouldnt get a friend he should get a girlfriend, he can get a friend if the doesnt want sex or desire and a woman c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:59 PM
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Maybe I was overcomplicating this, do you find most men physically unattractive? cause if that is the case then it would make sense you wouldnt desire them, nor would you want them to desire you, and maybe you want those men to not even think about having to deal with them. but apparently ugly and average people get desired and marry and fuck all the time out there so, idk if this is a misunderstanding but the argument has nothing to do with you or any model settling for an ugly guy but its more…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:52 PM
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i dont get what you mean, if they want to have a partner that is physically attracted to them and dont want a woman to settle for them thats fair, but you are arguing that they want women above their league or whatever? cause many could mean they want someone who desires them or nothing, not a supermodel settling for me vs an average woman who desires me, as it seems to be your argument. or maybe you just want to make a point about women being more desirable that men in general and hence all men…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:48 PM
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no, it means there is a preference for these features that is hardwired ito humans, and someone else on the are/ace spectrum already told you that they still like hot people, so ugly guys still wouldnt make the cut.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:43 PM
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and how does this whole argument exist when it comes to ugly women? if they get "tricked into having sex"by a man who doesnt desires them or doesnt desires them like they would want to (like men would desire prettier women i guess) would they just shut the fuck up because asexual men or demi men exist and they should be dating those men and leave the other men alone? should an ugly woman settle for being barely tolerated by whoever she dates cause apparently no one desires ugly people, despite t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:41 PM
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if an ugly woman is dating an ugly man, should she want her partner to treat her as desirable, at least on the context of their relationship? Shouldn't people desire their partners regardless? or should all the non-attractive people settle for no desire or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:37 PM
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it means attractiveness is related to health and could be hardcoded on people since infancy to look out for, and if babies do it then asexual women would do it , which also means that the standards for looks would be the same, a man who is not desired by an average woman also wouldnt be desired by an asexual woman, and the point of your post would be kind of null.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:30 PM
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So those.. are entitled assholes. They want to be sexually desired while not being desirable and then talking shit about women not finding him sexually desirable. fat acceptance movement. those are literally the same? like fat women could and do the same all the time, and thats while having options, cause the average woman or below would go crazy if she had the non-existent options lots of men deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:27 PM
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traits that signal attractiveness tend to also signal health so they are kind of correlated, not necessarily the same as many models could look sickly by looks but still be attractive and someone could be perfectly healthy and still look dull, but most secondary sexual characteristics are indicators of health, and they also happen to be widely attractive so....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:22 PM
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“Having an ANA-approved scope and standards provides clarity, accountability, and professional identity for nurses who focus on men’s health,” said Gallegos. “From the beginning, our goal was simple but ambitious: to ensure that boys and men are no longer invisible in our frameworks of care,” said Dr. Gallegos. “Establishing men’s health as a nursing specialty creates the infrastructure, accountability, and professional identity needed to close long-standing gaps in prevention, diagnosis, and tr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/26 07:32 PM
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i really dont know about this but wouldn't asexual women for instance, have the same physical requirements for men? like, yeah, they don't want to have sex but they would want them to look good right? that doesnt changes wheter she feels sexual attraction or not. The guys who dont look good still wouldn't be chosen if they dont attract them or if they look ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 07:27 PM
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Wasn't mysandry her whole thing? like comparing men to pigs and stuff like that? why are people going against her now? not that they shouldn't be but the timing its kind of weird
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/26 07:23 PM
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or fly her up to another country and finance her lifestyle, then maybe you can get a crumb out of it...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/26 05:09 PM

or she doesnt has a point or a concept, and it's just feelings RP=wrong and icky and weird. BP=normal, good and cool
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 05:00 PM
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its about control and being convenient, so when you decide men are boring and you get to dictate what's interesting or what can they do (or have to do) to be boring, then you can decide their behaviour, character, activities and hobbies, even their politics at some point. its shame-based blackmail and manipulation, not unlike the redpillers who decide what works or whats masculine based on a stupid standard that they can selll and decide, and shame men into doing whatever they can (or whatever t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 10:45 PM
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i dont think we are talking about the same thing, and while surely having friends is cool and having female friends is even cooler (or at least not having female friends is at best a red flag) the asymetry in pressure is honestly enought to make it a male issue and one really perpetrated or at least suported by women primarly, in the same way there can be a very strong push for women, for instance, to have bigger boobs or butts, and while women friendzoning men or men pinning for women who dont …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 10:40 PM
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you are the one who is literally using abused women as an anecdote to shit on nice guys and whatever, its a really weird projection, like a lot of posts and comments here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:46 PM
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its also about convenience, as you can make a man do whatever you want if it makes him "Interesting" enough, or if you convince all men they are boring and only you know what to do to make them interesting then you can sell them shit, like courses or political ideas, weirdly enough.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 09:44 PM
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kind of weird that either boring women dont exist of even they expect something interesting in the men they date, something they themselves arent doing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 09:42 PM
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i think relationships and what women think are so important for most men that it kind of bleeds out if that makes sense? like if you are uninteresting and hence unnatractive you are less than for women, and hence less than as a person, so the pressure becomes unbearable for those who have to perform for women both inside and outside of the relationship stuff, like it becomes part of the gender role that men have to uphold everywhere, even if it's (or it should be) strictly romantic
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 09:41 PM
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the "it girl" "girlfailure" type of shit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 09:33 PM
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hold up, with that laughing and mocking the puffery thing, doesnt that makes people double down on their acts and be even more insecure and defensive?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/26 03:39 PM
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no, im saying its very easy to know what is atractive and what isnt physically and yet, not only do you just rant about personality and use it on all your anecdotes but you just really seem to have some personal vendetta against guys who are weird and i guess dont follow whatever personality advice you give? its like you are not even talking to me but some guy you made up and are lecturing while saying stuff over and over again, and if you are an example of whatever you are preaching then idk wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 08:21 PM
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What a weird saviour complex you have man, but if you are so convinced of what you say then you definitely belong to this sub, in one way or the other
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:54 PM
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i dont really think you know as much as you think you do and im pretty sure any post here would be under the pills context and really not a lot of normal people rant and post on a pill debate sub but you do you bro, its your life...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:13 PM
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what do you even mean by red pill and blue pill at this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:11 PM
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by that logic, you could also be biased on seeing those super genuine, cute guys and believing they are not redpilled at all and just happen to be cool, rejecting the possibility that maybe those idiots and cult-like redpillers really may be onto something when it comes to what women like or don't like, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:10 PM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:48 PM
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i dont think we were talking about the same thing in the first place and i dont know bout those women being really attracted to short guys or settling for them but really this seems to be more about you wanting to give lessons and stuff on whatever you have going on on that big ass comment, its not wrong but maybe you should make a post about it instead of just putting it here if you want to give it to whoever you think needs it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:47 PM
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you literally generalise all these men cause you want to but then we are supposed to believe your opinion as a nerd-loving, simp-loving supermodel beauty queen matters at all when it comes to women who arent you or arent like you at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:16 AM
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blaming women for being pumped and dumped or "used for sex" doesn't happen enough tho, we cant say that shit is their fault but when a man is struggling he must be horrible....
/r/MensRights10/03/26 03:46 AM
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Being short is pretty much considered unattractive to most women, and I'm pretty sure we have another long list of physical traits that are considered unattractive. and there is a lot of data about what women do consider attractive enough to know about it just by reading, dont know why we have to pretend that all women are super unique when we know what is attractive to most and what isnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:30 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:10 AM
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why do women complain about apparently predatory and impossible female beauty standards that men like so much (like stuff about weight or body hair or lack of boobs or ass) and then pretend that they dont have similar standards for men they consider attractive and some traits that they would never like? like do you really think men and women are that different? like men have these stupid standards of beauty they oppress women with but women are just quirky and unique in what they like?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:01 AM
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you wouldnt vore for AOC even if the other options was JD Vance or Marco Rubio or some other ghoul like that? cause we all know how it be in the elections when the options are bad or worse....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/26 03:22 PM
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too zen for most people, but if not even women like it when they are one of the few being excluded from it due to outside standards then i dont know how men would be chill with this too, specially with all that "most men are normal and are in relationships you are just a weirdo" that people pull all the time for unnatractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 02:26 AM
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cool, i dont want to know about that, nor i want you to assume anything about me, and i simply disagree wth what you posted; men way worse than your husband get relationships an sex very easely by looking good or lying, people better than him are alone, my argument has nothing to do with you or your personal life, as hard to believe as it can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:16 PM
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you saying this knowing that women basically aren't attracted to the majority of men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:01 PM
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Why would i care if you care? this was for others in the comments not for your poor attempt to call out losers or "incel" weirdos into being whatever you consider normal
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:51 PM
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dont you love it when women who are none of those get sex and validation 24/7 at the click of an app, or how men who do none of that still have baby mamas and shit....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:28 PM
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its the "women are wonderful" effect again, like almost always is, in our gynocentric society
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/26 07:12 PM
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they just dont care about men, in general, so its always about women and what they need and what they want,
/r/MensRights04/03/26 07:15 PM
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That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it. This also applies to violence in general as well, as even in a post of a guy asking about the women and nonbinary people here about women's rights on this same sub, a feminist was posting this type of narrative about violence for men in the comments. The logic goes like this Men are not the primary victims …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/26 02:58 PM
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i think we also have to assign blame evenly to this as many women and society educate and/or indirectly lead men into this kind of simp mentality and while men lashing out to other men for female validation are no victims, they are also not exactly the root of the problem, as again, women and society praise and enforce that behaviour.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/26 10:00 PM
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Dating discourse has suffered among a growing political divide because it frames dating as exclusionist. Wording used by Gen Z has functioned to inhibit women’s sexual freedom. Phrasing such as ‘304s’ and ‘bop’ have centred women’s romantic value to their sexual activity. Furthermore, phrasing such as ‘red flags’ and ‘chopped’ have contributed to a more suspicious view of dating that centres around a sceptical view around potential matches. Our fear does not just show in the lack of sexual activ…
/r/MensRights26/02/26 02:23 AM
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she is just cool like that
/r/MensRights26/02/26 02:09 AM
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it also kind of has some aspects of the female gender role? as in men are also expected to provide emotional support on top of, or instead of, physical effort? cause god knows that for how much women complain about having to be a mom bang maid or whatever they say now, it seems to me like men also have to be clowns, therapists, ATMs, emotional tampons etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/26 11:25 PM
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Mothers are statistically more likely to commit infanticide overall, particularly in cases of neonaticide (killing within the first 24 hours), where they account for nearly all perpetrators. While female infanticide (killing specifically female infants) is often driven by patriarchal societal bias, studies indicate mothers are the primary perpetrators in immediate newborn killing. Neonaticide (0-24 hours): Almost exclusively committed by mothers. General Infanticide: Mothers remain the primary p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/26 07:36 PM
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this may sound creepy but im sure many men engage in that as a mating strategy, and it seems like it kind of works for some of them even.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/26 07:33 PM
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its like telling some woman that they are most likely to be harmed by some stud fratbro whom they hookup with or their cute husbands instead of a "scary" incel terrorist who probably doesn't go outside or talk to women,its technically true. but as long as the narrative doesnt fit their feelings and vibes, then its useless and false.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/26 07:29 PM
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its a part of the male protector role, just that when men are not against other men they think he is against women or he will favour a man above her if something happened, so he must be on board with her, protect her against other men, even in her imagination and kind of just agree with her cause thats what a man does now ig.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/02/26 07:25 PM
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maybe Kamala was also trying to do that "its her turn" thing? good knows Obama was scolding black men like a disappointed father, cause aparently they didn't want to have a female president, as if that was the problem with her instead of her policies or her bad takes or anything else.... and even if there was a bit of a moral panic cause gen-z men were apparently the least feminist men since the boomers or something like that, im pretty sure there are stats saying that less people are identifyin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/26 02:59 AM
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more than "freedom" or anything like that i would say it is indifference, as men are either expected to figure it out (whatever that may mean) or fail if they truly aren't about that, if they aren't "real men" and therefore not useful and not people, and thats without going about the bias in favour of women in education and in society in general, the programs and help they have that men either arent expected to need or arent given even if they do need them, plus i dont know about having (more) m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/26 03:57 PM
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not sure if this was would be even published in a mainstream site today, and even then i can imagine it either becoming a shitshow or flat out being dismissed, and this would be only counting the part about women maaaybe not having it so wrong, i dont even know about the reaction about men having problems would be from the contemporary audience of the Times Magazine, the New York Times today or god forgive if the The Guardian publised that type of content. also what was going on in 2016 that thi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/26 10:13 PM
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still a very lame thing to do, and i dont think this is only about romance and sex but i have also seen some posts about finances and how men who make under 100k are barely middle class now and people talking as if they all were above that tax bracket, plus saying it was really easy to date and marry people who had that much if you lived on certain areas, as if they were also like that... i just dont know what to think about this sub, its really different from most reddit but in a very bad way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 02:09 AM
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Sometimes I honestly wonder if they’re actually like that, or if they’re just kind of pathetic and pretending to be successful so they can look down on others. I don’t even know which is worse. Either there are a lot of supposedly “successful,” married professionals who are genuinely that insecure and wierdly malicious, or there are a lot of people so performative, sad and delusional that they fake the whole persona just to feel superior and put others down.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 09:56 PM
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there is definitely a lot of people here either humble-bragging about their apparently successful and fulfilling sexual and romantic lives while going into the most pointless and unhinged discussions here or tryng to appear normal by shaming people even less socially calibrated than them, not sure if thats what you see on this sub but it seems very common here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 07:15 PM
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apex falacy, women think the people at the top happen to be men (and mostly rich) means that men in general are treated better while ignoring or hating on the mountains of males at the bottom, and i suspect there is also some aspirational envy on that, as in, they feel like they should be on top and be with the men on top so when they notice they are at the bottom with men they find undesirable they tend to loose their shit and lash out against everyone, mostly against low-status below average m…
/r/MensRights21/02/26 07:08 PM
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no, it depends on the culture, the age, the demographic you are dating really, but its mostly about compatibility, lifestyle and views on sex and relationships so lots of people either care a lot and try to "sniff it out" by context clues or stuff like that, or some even ask on the first date, kind of like women "sniffing out" virgins by awkward behaviour or men letting women talk about themselves and letting out how their prior relationships were, to see if they were promiscuous or not, tho aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 05:27 PM
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ok,the whole thing is a point of debate on this shithole of a sub so i was curious about it, most people here debate that it would matter a lot or not at all so its good to have someone uncertain here, as weird as it could be in a debate sub like this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 05:04 PM
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because guys are that desperate.....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 04:54 PM
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im arguing you are right, already explained why even, again, guys are just too desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 04:52 PM
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fair enough, would you say the same if the person you are dating did had a story of casual sex but wasnt attracted to you like that? like she had sex with many other guys and just wouldnt do it with you because "you are too special for an ONS" or something like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 04:50 PM
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that i have heard rich spoiled brats talk with less entitlement and condescension than how you talk about men who apparently you dont like? you wouldnt be talking to men like that if men werent so desperate for the tiniest form of female attention that they would put it with you and the bullshit you believe about them. so i guess i agree with you, men get what they deserve and if they get you they really really deserve that and worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 04:46 PM
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guys really are that desperate if they make people like you think all that....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 04:37 PM
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and thse ones "too special for an ONS" or "worth more than an ONS" "You only caught my eye when I got to know you" are good things to be told as a man? i know they would be better than what you wrote before but if a man had that lack of sexual desire for his female partner, then i dont know if those women would react that well....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 04:29 PM
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why would the way to comunicate that would matter if the meaning is still the same "you're ugly but you're a nice guy" sentiment?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 04:25 PM
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do men get to excuse engaging in more risky behaviour for having more testosterone? Or potentially heightened aggression or irritability on average?
/r/MensRights21/02/26 01:33 AM
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depends on what you mean by incel but i would say its a product of our time and conditions, technology, social media, dating apps, and low economic opportunities plus a myriad of other bullshit that affects men in a different way than women, like being undesirable, or unnatractive.
/r/MensRights21/02/26 01:29 AM
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"In Brazil, men are predominantly affected by violent crimes, with men accounting for over 90% of the more than 46,000 annual homicides recorded in 2022, according to data from Statista and the Pan American Health Organization. Other significant crimes affecting men include armed robbery, carjacking, and a, often underreported, rise in sexual violence. Key Crimes Affecting Men in Brazil: Homicide: Brazilian men are far more likely to be victims of homicide than women, with males representing ove…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/26 02:20 AM

i pray that all of those guys dismissing this shit and talking big about their game and how cool they are and how dating is easy really are like that and are not lonely idiots larping on the internet, cause i dont know why i normally dont see that many men and women bragging or humble bragging about dating and sex on normal reddit but suddently everyone here is really cool and sucessfull and apparently also well paid and educated by other posts that i see here....
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:40 PM
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women are seen as more prone to sexual abuse and sexual assault because the stats dont count men being harassed or raped, specially by women, as either victims or subjects or protection against that, so on one hand we have to take that when we say "women get raped much more than men" tho thats nickpicking your post. in general i think its just a way to signal men who are unattractive or unconventional to stay in line and learn their place figuratively, cause if you have them double-crossing them…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/26 03:31 PM
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no he isnt, he knows or must know what he is getting into with a woman like that and for all that we know the kind of men who gets with women like this is no victim, most of those guys agree with feminists, beg and grovel to be "one of the good ones" or dont care or even hate on other men just to have female validation and sex, for all that we know they are made for each other.
/r/MensRights12/02/26 03:51 PM
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Is appealing to what women find attractive in men really worth dumping the ENTIRE progressive movement over? yeah
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 12:04 AM
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great way to justify your bigotry but why dont you try to do what we "oppressors (men)" do and deal with it yourself instead of projecting and hating 50% of the people who arent you?
/r/MensRights06/02/26 05:11 PM
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i will never look at these the same while knowing that this women will never know nor have ever known what it means to be trutly lonely, much less when it comes to romance or dating, as there are so many men desperate enough to simp and geg and grovel for any woman, incluiding these. not to excuse any bullshit that goes on on twitter or feminist reddit but this shit wouldnt happen if men had the barest minimum of standards at all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/26 03:34 PM
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why do they even do that tho? like i guess is part of a greater fetishisation of gay men but if they are gonna recreate basically straight sex roles but with two men, why not put a woman, leave it at that? do they feel dirty writting women doing whatever they make their gay characters do? like why do they have to use men, and sometimes real men who aren't gay to boot, to make up their fantasies?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/26 03:15 PM
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someone else already said it but is it creepy to talk about someones genitals like that? like dont they have anything else to offer or are dicks that important to them? would a transman who hasnt had bottom surgery be evil/insecure/weird by default? would a man with a gigantic dick be right and not insecure at all?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/26 09:39 PM
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even fat women are a fetish to some, right? with bbws and feeders and all that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/26 09:30 PM
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and what can we do about these "pick-me" men? im being serious cause i know women have their own exclusionary thing going on with anything from conservative women to women who simply defend men, and i dont know if i want to exclude men like that, like calling them simps or betas or stuff, even if i fucking hate male feminists and have even more hatred towards simps, onlyfans consumers and many other type of men (and yes, i hate redpillers and tradcons as well) how could we critique them without …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/26 08:55 PM
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and the "official payboy reddit page" was posting this here? and on inceltears and twoxxchromosome? is that allowed?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/26 01:38 AM
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incels arent people with problems but problems to be solved, or dealt with, with theraphy or return to tradition or making them soldiers, or taxpayers or fathers or activists or... something useful to others and maybe theyll be usefull for themselves then? or at least they wont be whining and being unproductive and or undesirable. its just the overarching message of men being human doings and not human beings and cranking it to a T because men dont have problems but are problems, and if they hav…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/26 01:35 AM
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i blame the guys who do too much for any and all women tho, you guys know which guys im talking about
/r/MensRights30/01/26 07:17 PM
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why do you think women react that way? i have heard some other men say that is because liking or having sex with other men makes you less of a man or dirty or icky on their eyes and thats why they react like that, but im not sure if thats how it goes for you lot, or if you have noticed another motives.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/26 02:54 AM
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so the relationships just happen to her? without agency on her part or something?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/26 08:15 PM
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There are enough characters and stories to be told about people who arent hollywood pretty and while i think you are making a point about diversity ruining stuff, maybe the problem is not the lack of representation but the lack of stories that get to have those characters so we get the same bullshit stories with the same type of actors, which i imagine could be bad if you care about the medium as a form of art.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/26 01:38 AM
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i think there is a lot of cherry picking and double standards when it comes to society telling men how they should be and act, and some rhetoric about men being strong but kind or stuff like that tends to be weaponized on this spaces, so while i kind of agree with your reasoning, too many people (specially straight women) use that more as a way to have their cake and eat too by having men being held to a traditional standard on some stuff and to a "modern" standard in others.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/26 07:51 PM
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do what you want, you can do everything "right" (be it by being a man as some tradcons would say or practicing "positive masculinity as some leftist would say) and you would either burn out and/or be resentfull, or get with someone who is only after what you project and not what you are, so do whatever you want, stay safe out there and stick to whatever you believe, tho keep an eye open to change your mind in case you feel you are wrong or lacking in something, just let that change be by your ow…
/r/MensRights23/01/26 07:07 PM
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women are way more likely to be attacked or assaulted by men they know rather than randos on the street way less likely to be victims of violent crimes in general and men are many times more likely to be victims of that kind of crimes, specially assaults, like being "jumped" some studies even suggest that urban criminals go out their ways on the streets to not target women, you can even look up the fear of crime gender paradox The fear of crime gender paradox refers to the consistent research fi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 06:38 PM
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To me it seems obvious that the ideal human being is both strong (so I can depend on him) and vulnerable (so I can take care of him and kiss him on his forehead when he feels sad and etc). so, i dont know if im misunderstanding something but with all due respect, these seem to me like those women who want to have their cake and eat it too, like wanting to have a 7ft CEO/mafia don/boyfriend who is horrible to everyone but loves them to death and cuddles when they want to, like they want to have t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 05:23 PM
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how so?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/26 05:11 PM
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i donate, keep informed about new laws and information about mens rights around the world but im not some middle-aged dad talking about football and whatnot. I don't care a whole lot about whatever most people think a strong or masculine man is and generally keep to myself, but if that makes you think me or guys like me are some sort of caricature that drinks macha lattes, goes to therapy to virtue signal and idk cry while posting here? then i dont know what to tell you, i see a lot of feminists…
/r/MensRights23/01/26 02:26 AM
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(except for the obvious fact that the masks are there because ICE members are ugly would this be ok if they were handsome and went without masks or something? like there is a myriad of things that are wrong with ICE how about using those to say stuff instead of cheap insults or inmature quips?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 05:37 AM
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its positive masculinity all over again but first of all i dont know about this making other people safe, as this asumes im being seen as some kind of threat just because, and i dont feel like begging and performing for a minimum of humanity. then, maybe my opinion is too redpilled but is a matter of supply and demand more than gender roles (tho they do matter a lot) women receive too much suply of male attention, men have a great demand for female attention, so one part holds all the leverage a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 02:31 AM
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i do think we could do better as men, and in being more united and less biased towards women (on my very personal opinion) but there is no way to change the standard that society has for men and what it actually rewards in men (see the super-powefull insecure babies that you mention) unless we can be so partial towards women and grow some in-group bias in between men, and not see others only as competition or us vs them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/26 03:04 AM
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i personaly recomend r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates but thats mostly cause im left-leaning myself politically, if you are more conservative, right-wing or centrist maybe the sub wont be good for you, but it is still an option
/r/MensRights16/01/26 02:30 AM
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hey at least she is being mask-off about it, dont know how i feel about the men who eat that shit up and then feel all good and smug about being disposable at worst or useful tools at best... maybe this is how feminist feel about those "Pick-me" girls?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/26 06:57 PM
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i do agree that some stuff is off-topic here and falls into the "men bad, women bad" rage bait that other gender issues groups fall into, but im not against incels per-se, as i kind of fall into the stereotype and dont think that men have any other space to discuss these issues in a good way.
/r/MensRights15/01/26 03:33 PM
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its probably for reproductive success or stats chasing for biological/evolutionary reasons.
/r/MensRights15/01/26 03:15 PM
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The middle class is dying, that's the point here and elsewhere in the news. This isn't my position, it's pretty much the objective reality that most young Americans, cannot keep up with costs and we're increasingly being separated into the lower class and upper class. so you make this observation, and then say, "well, women should then ask for more" as if you lot also weren't affected by this erasure of the middle class? as if all women could have their potential partners held to a standard that…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 07:09 PM
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yeah, it just makes men look worse and women can get away with more cause apparently men dont seem to care, its bad all around.
/r/MensRights13/01/26 02:06 AM
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that bit about being harassed, in less danger and walking alone at night without fear is completely culturally dependent on living in the first world and in a safe zone at that, cause as a man having lived in South America and in the UK, many more of my male friends have experienced violence at night compared to women, with stats also pointing the same thing, tho the catcalling/harassment seems inverted at night, with more women than men having experienced that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/26 01:31 AM
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play at being understanding all you want, but i dont think some lady running away while giving me the side eye or clutching her purse and calling another man on me because I'm brown or doing the same thing because I'm a man makes any real difference, surely any racist can be as guarded as they want and surely any man fearing woman can do that, doesnt changes the fact that they are treating me as a rabid dog instead of a person just because. and ill say it again just to make it clear they can be …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/26 01:25 AM
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if some woman told me that they hate or fear me because im brown and they have had bad experiences with brown people that wouldnt make the racism better, and in that same way i struggle to believe that i should be letting the hate and loathing women would have for me and other men go just because of their negative experience with other men, its all plain discrimination and shouldnt be coddled. in the same way men shouldn't hate women because of one woman or white people shouldn't hate on poc bec…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/26 04:15 PM
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they dont fat shame women tho, like ever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/26 06:47 PM
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is it useful tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:42 PM
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i think the worrying is more about men being less usefull or being broken tools rather than a real concern about men as people who need help, and may need more help than women as a group, its utilitarian rather than real care.
/r/MensRights06/01/26 11:12 PM
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group thinking and in-group bias are bad, but we could use more sympathy/empathy to our fellow men instead of throwing guys under the bus just for validation and stuff like that.
/r/MensRights06/01/26 11:09 PM
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i dont think that women are attracted enough to so many men that they miss being approached by them, if they lacked desirable options, even if just for hookups, then that would be that but aside from that at best they will complain they dont have guys simping, buying them shit and fueling their egos. but thats different.
/r/MensRights06/01/26 11:07 PM
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sidenote but They would not be running things anymore, what does this mean in context? are they saying that women would be in charge and would do to men the exact same thing men supposedly do and have done to women?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/26 01:18 AM
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i think you got icked by the hypergamy shit and are shaming the man into stopping whatever he thinks whilst ignoring that he may have good reasons to believe that in the same way a woman may have a reason to distrust men, and i really doubt you would be calling out dehimanization of men from women in other aspects tho i dont know you like that, so if you really are egalitarian im not complaining.
/r/MensRights01/01/26 08:20 PM
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its a shaming tactic, you can be a criminal and if you check the boxes for looking or seeming desirable you are set, and you can be a saint or succesfull or rich or whatever and if you seem like a loser/low status they will treat you like that, so its more about people "knowing their place" and behaving like the shamers tell them, its manipulation, plain and simply.
/r/MensRights31/12/25 08:06 PM
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say that you want to focus on your career or some bullshit like that, better yet if it vaguely sounds like you are responsible or something but while i dont think the house-pulling or divorce scams are THAT common (they still happen a lot tho) you dont owe the old guy an explanation for your decisions, its your life and unless he is going to live it himself, its on you to defend and live your life however you want.
/r/MensRights31/12/25 07:59 PM
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dont lots of women believe that men just use them for sex? Are they dehumanising men too or are they acting on some sort of experience or knowledge of reality?
/r/MensRights31/12/25 07:55 PM
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there is also the DL men thing and the fact that lots of straight women dont feel attraction or even feel repulsion towards bi-men, for whatever reasons.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/12/25 10:46 PM
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i think that being united like feminist are is kind of unrealistic for biological/psychological reasons, as you point and for social reasons as society is and always was genocentric but i think we could do without the hate that many men seem to have for others and for themselves, cause yeah, way too many men are more than ready to throw any man under the bus either for social validation, mostly for women and just in general doing too much for women, incluiding simping for random women and subsid…
/r/MensRights30/12/25 03:01 PM
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if they then happen to treat men as victims or heretics needing salvation and salvation being more feminism then i dont want real feminism
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/25 09:23 PM
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some of these are good from time to time, cause its good to know how tradcon this place is, and on that i strongly recommend r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates if you haven't checked the sub yet
/r/MensRights27/12/25 07:15 PM
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isnt there already something similar on reddit about protecting women and minorities (despite women being half the fucking population)? like this is draconian but there has slowly been a precedent forming about censoring and using feminism as a way to control narratives, population and spaces.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/25 07:01 PM
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its so normal that fr i would say its just women being women but you know, sexism and all that....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/25 06:56 PM
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"positive masculinity"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/25 04:13 PM
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not lift up the shy and anxious. it does lift goes who are anxious and shy but it lifts them into what? voters for their causes? voices for other people? faceless drones who pay taxes and say the right thing? like idk if this sounds too much like a right-wing rant but men are not pulled to be "better" for themselves but better used for others, the reformed frat bro is good for optics and fucking and the reformed loser is good cannon fodder
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/12/25 04:11 PM
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cool to know you know me so well and cool to know i have a fan here ig? dont know why you reading my comments here, but ok
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/12/25 06:58 PM
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Women have a much higher in-group bias and men also have bias towards women so thats that.
/r/MensRights23/12/25 07:54 PM
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normally some time ago they would dress up the misandry with something about women's empowerment or something about helping women and girls but i dont know how to feel about this in-your-face hate, like its good to know its there but the fact that is so unchecked is worrying.
/r/MensRights23/12/25 07:53 PM
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The intentions and some of the results were good, but the methods and consequences were questionable at best, cant say it was a mistake but thats mostly cause i dont approach women or anything like that so i dont have a lot of bones to pick on that, if i was a guy going around wanting to meet women and date i do imagine the generalized fear and the "guilty until proven innocent" could be bad but thats not the case so....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/25 07:47 PM
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Why can't we have normal people coming here for once to disagree? Like, does it always have to be feminists or like three fucking tradcons man....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/12/25 04:42 AM
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i dont know if it is a cope or a taboo to talk about objective beauty standards, as in, people feel mean saying some people are just ugly or if there is a way to go thru it without bullshiting people or hurting them more
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/12/25 04:44 PM
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and doesnt that ignores women who also cant get guys to give them the time of the day, as much as a minority as they are? like if i was a woman who cant get guys and the advice was only about how to vet and filter guys i would feel subhuman
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/12/25 04:40 PM
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no, i didnt liked the video and wasnt expecting anything good from the guy, apparently, from another commenter who read it is not that bad but i didnt wanted to waste my time if it wasnt
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/12/25 04:34 PM
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did you read the guide? how was it? i coulnt stand the video personally but dont know if i should read the doc, is it good?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/25 11:50 PM
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the comments on the science sub are not that braindead? but this I dunno, speaking from personal/anecdotal experience, I've encountered far more gooner stereotype men vs women. Guys who are like seriously addicted to porn, to the point that it impacts normal functioning. It doesn't seem as common with women. I feel like that must influence this attitude among people. cool to know that women are immune to porn and not at all affects their daily lives by making them desire them same bullshit they …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/25 08:41 PM
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shifting the goal post, talking first about how men are silly for expecting feminism for dating advice and then justifying having guys listen to feminism because apparently we are too homophobic and femnphobic to have friends is real bad faith, again feminist dont know about dating as a man, and pretending they do is just really dumb.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/25 07:36 PM
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it has a dating guide in the description: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ojayt-RpuOBFjDbxVVc2Imq0dP5MW0ugoLp8m8ICB8w/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.bfw4rav8st49 has anyone read it? cause if it is the same as the video i dont have any hopes for it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/25 07:18 PM
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he is a boogeyman that lives off controversy and bad fame, but the reasons for his rise and relevancy could make a good topic of discussion if it often didnt developed into the same blaming bullshit against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/25 07:15 PM
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feminism doesn't give dating advice, but with how much feminist blame and talk to men as if they knew better about our dating problems ,one would think they have any idea about what they yap about so much.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/25 07:13 PM
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what if men being better means less simps paying women wages just to interact with them out of desperation, less workers for the rat race, less taxpayers and less cannon fodder for the wars, when/if that happens, then i don't know if it will be socially acceptable, much less socially celebrated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/25 07:12 PM
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they see men as a problem to be solved not people to be helped, and having men as cute little eunuchs who vote left and hate themselves is worlds better than having bitter and angry young men, especially if they have valid reasons to be like that,
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/25 07:03 PM
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if it was a gap in know-how that would be one thing, but when men can and do everything they are suposped to do and are still critizied, villified and/or ignored about their emotions, then maybe the problem is on the other side.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/25 06:55 PM
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jesus christ....
/r/MensRights20/12/25 06:59 PM
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i could convince or make the decision to break contact, tho not completely, with many people who either didnt knew or didn't care about men or mens rights, and just being here and sharing ideas with people and forming oppinions and knowing more has been good for men, dont know if this is too little compared to whatever you imagine we should do, as if you know so much better, but yeah, thats that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/25 02:53 PM
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eh, they probably just want to shame you or something but its telling that being starved of loved or affection and "bitching" about it is so bad for men when women do that for a living on social media or even irl, weird standard plus having men being shamed for not getting women is weird, is almost as if men are valued by wheter they can pull women or not....
/r/MensRights20/12/25 03:50 AM
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it kind of misses the point tho? like yeah, we are not wolves and/or bonobos, cool, we still operate on societies and environments win which "alpha" traits, or at least alpha-seeming traits, are selected, fought for, and very valued, like, for sure its easier to make this about weirdos and pseudoscience but at the same time, there are roles and hierarchies we do follow, they are there, and i dont know how much the term or the "science" behind it matters, it sticks for a reason, and that reason d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/25 03:30 PM
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fr you could make yourself as "attractive"as you could and if women dont give you shit for that (for even thinking about yourself that way really) then the whole thing is detrimental for men, in between delusional and malicious, seeing how women talk about men they deem lesser but still "have the gall" to delude themselves into attractivness, in their terms not mine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/25 03:19 PM
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Yeah, some people like Scott Galloway or the current Cali governor want to try and "whisper" stuff to young-ish men to get more political clout or adherence to their ideas, or at the very least are scared to have men going to the right en masse, so they try to grift men into accepting their bullshit and probably won't stop wanting shit from men in favour of women even when they get more power/fame. you genuily can look up on this same sub or make a post asking about Scott Galloway or even Richar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/25 11:21 PM
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is there a way to know those 38% of watchers are women for sure? like im not hating on the data but im curious about how the tracking works on that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/25 03:54 PM
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what you are saying is a hell of a fucking thing for male strippers, especially those who go to bachelorette parties (if those are still a thing) are basically treated like pieces of meat, and thats without going into the sexualization some weird straight women have towards gay men, its really, really weird.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/25 03:52 PM
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there is a weird trick to take away agency from those women too, like, they are misguided and/or dont know better, or sometimes they just ignore that those women have the free will to engage in that content/profession because they want to,
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/25 03:49 PM
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do straight women only consume gay porn or no porn at all now?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/25 03:46 PM
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no, we have some shifting to the right due to scaremongering and many, many economic and social factors, but im pretty sure many men are either left-leaning, progressive and/or simply dislike conservativism/right-wing ideologies or are apolitical, what happens is that they are not as far to the left or as subservient to feminism or whatever flavour of it some people would like, like women are, and due to the fear/disgust that some have with men and specially men they dont like, this is what we h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/25 03:43 PM
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no political party has boys' or men's rights as an agenda unless it is for either get votes and not do anything or to force men to follow whatever masculinity they feel is more convenient for them, and im not only talking about conservatives or Tories and their bullshit but also Labour or the democrats and their "positive masculinity" and whatnot,
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/12/25 08:08 PM
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yeah idk, i dont have any argument against whoever you responded to, i guess she can do whatever she wants? on that same vein i would never asociate with someone like that, much less have a kid with her but i guess she can make one herself or something? her body her choice, right?
/r/MensRights16/12/25 09:59 PM
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most men wont identify as feminist and maybe even some women wont, i think there were stats to back this up but yeah, the movement doesnt has a good look and thanks god it doesnt but im pretty sure it will work itself out with time, wheter this will be with less people due to lower birthrates or a radical shift into more equal idologies, only time will tell.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 09:48 PM
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im pretty sure there is a "pinkpill" content creator for every redpiller out there but because men bad women's mysandry gets either ignored or justified
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/25 09:42 PM
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if the guy was going around paying for 5 stars restaurants meals for other women and is splitting the bill of random food for you i guess it kind of makes sense? is that the point of this post? am i missing something?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:08 PM
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using their own moves against them? bold as hell
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:05 PM
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You really don't fucking see women crying cause some guy fucked and left when Stacy presumably would be treated better? really?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:01 PM
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is this about putting the standards of women as good and respectable cause women know better and then put those non-existent standards for women as evil or bad for women? how weird, women only have to show up and choose and thats that, what need do you even have to writte all of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:47 PM
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also the reason why the topic even comes up in the first place is very important, cause it seems to me like society is losing taxpayers, gdp, pension founds, and future workers (children) so that seems to me why the mainstream even bothers to try to get the topic in the first place, its almost as if men are a means to an end instead of people to be helped but what do i know....
/r/MensRights10/12/25 09:10 PM
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its PR and women control and love to use PR and social/soft power to make narratives, i would even argue that out society now is dominated, ideologically, by a form of communication that women favour, and that is on top of the gynocentrism that the species has already, so on that women can say they are the most lonely population, or a minority (despite making up 50% of the people) or the most discrimindated against or whatever they want and people either believe it, dont believe it but dont want…
/r/MensRights10/12/25 03:51 PM
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yeah, hookups are on the low for the young-ish people, or sex in general, or marriage and im pretty sure the birthrates are tanking but im pretty sure lots of people are still dating? like i would have to check better stats later and i kind of agree that some groups are still backing out from dating but im not sure if we are at quite the stage were thats normal or at least were you dont have to give weird explanations to get people out of your ass, tho maybe thats just me and my environment.
/r/MensRights06/12/25 03:40 AM
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it could be self-hate sometimes, projected into extremism
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/25 02:43 PM
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its just very slimy, the comment and the vibe but i guess he is that up there that he simply doesnt has any issue that other men has? cause i do see many academics and corporate white men with that vibe when they are all about politics for the sake of feeling comfy but when push comes to shove they always try to lecture you, not as much as white women (sorry if its misogyny) but you can even see it in the comment here, n you I see me, trying to figure it all out. I see someone reading and evalua…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/25 02:41 PM
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/r/MensRights05/12/25 02:30 PM
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how about women shitting on men who have a body count of 0? like its wild how virgin or the like is almost an exclusive male insult and people wonder why sex is so important to men and why most incels are men, we are shamed into having it quickly and now apparently having it too much is also bad. Clown world.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/25 02:28 PM
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its just really weird and creepy and i dont know why other men, apparently even bisexual men, were pandering to those women who just want to use them or just virtue signal while hating on other men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/25 02:18 PM
1

so she got an ick and the other woman had an ick and now its the mans problem? and what was that last comment? trains just attract characters like this? like what, sick? coughing men? like what?
/r/MensRights04/12/25 04:24 PM
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how about not believing in feminism and its framing and still respecting women's and men's rights as a whole? how about that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 04:15 PM
1

sounds good but Because really, "Women aren't a monolith" should naturally conclude with "So when a man complains about a common negative experience with women, that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with me." But instead, "Women aren't a monolith" gets wielded as "Your experience must be an ultra-rare one-in-a-million occurrence, because I'M not like that, so if you feel the need to talk about something so insignificant as your rare one-off fluke experience as if it's a societal problem (…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 04:07 PM
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you seem to be too worried about women being vilified in all your comments, and i don't know if you are wanting men to pull themselves up by their bootstraps while women are protected from their own thoughts but whatever. on your second point its just kind of a weird thing to say when you seem to be applying politics to things you want and bootstrapping for other things and i kind of agree on the politics you are alluding to but it seems like a lot of leftist really want men to be on board with …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 04:03 PM
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fair, i thought that even guys like you had to be performative cause thats what i see a lot of less attractive dudes doing, they really be doing a lot for that...maybe its for validation or something but its still good to know how it is from the perspective of someone like you, cause i swear this dudes be kissing the ground women walk on and then cant stop bragging about getting with some woman who doesnt even likes them, tho im not sure if you are familiar with what im talking about here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 03:56 PM
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unexpected and quite interesting tho i have to clarify that im not way wanting to date, not before, not now, not if i happened to die and become whatever flavour of chad you are now, its just kind of weird but i see men being as people pleaser as they can and get something out of it, as in, some try make themselves a theraphist atm female friend clown etc and check as many boxes as they can and a lot of women just like that kind of convinience. so again, weird question, but you see women "desiri…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 05:20 AM
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its fair enough, but my experience being friends with women leads you to not being a romantic or even sexual option, tho i do think its important to like platonically the person you are dating and not only being romantically or sexually attracted, if you want something long term at least, i personally wouldnt recomend befriending women to date them and even falling for them while being friends if it can be avoided, but the advice about starting as friends is not it, and i whish people stoped giv…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 05:04 AM
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im not exactly into the specific arguments with the nerd and jock think cause if women are suffering from their success (of jumping from attractive guy to attractive guy) then its on them, if it is even a problem, when it comes to men not having chances i blame more social media in general, as insta and even facebook at some point was just a fountain of unearned attention for women who believe that reflects on what they deserve or dont deserve, and there is no going back from that. i also blame …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 04:58 AM
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it makes some more sense when you watch some of her other videos about hookup culture and even the one about Jonah Hill or other stupid drama involving men, she has really weird opinions about men and even women, with stuff about masculine and feminine energy, and if you know anything about that its only the tip of the iceberg of whackness. she reminds me of Jordan Peterson in the sense that both have some very specific knowledge in their fields, and a lot of academic credentials but when you sc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 04:14 AM
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i dont know if this should be the question here cause your experience is very much not like what i expect from guys in your position (no shade but lots of you lot virtue signal a lot) but if you were inclined to pull thru bullshit, get into hookups and "situationships" or whatever bullshit women demand from you, you think you would have better luck? like i know it wouldnt be genuine but i do see some guys with a lot of success that kind of always pander to women (specially on social media but if…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 03:55 AM
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not gonna watch that creator, and don't recommend her but its kind of weird how the comments are all over the place, almost as if all people were having different conversations but all of them have that same tone, of people who think they know about psychology but mostly to say bullshit that they believe and sound legit while doing it. and there is a whole lot of stuff about being friends with women, so whatever happened to the "dont befriend women to date them" from some years ago? and i dont k…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 03:44 AM
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maybe the bad treatment is extending to "normal" men (at least according to some statistic) and if normal men believe that they have no stakes in society or worse, hate it, then society suffers, or at least the numbers in taxes and economic growth reduce and maybe some women wont receive as much attention as they could so thats that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 03:09 AM
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"Women aren't a monolith, so even if I don't feel personally responsible for your problem, I see your problem and acknowledge that it sucks for you." do women feel personally responsible for the dating problems of men? is that why they react so badly to it? cause they take it personally?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 03:04 AM
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i didnt knew you could take mental damage from a fucking article on a magazine but holly shit, my argument was that most women simply dont lack options like men or incels do but i guess i was too focused in hookups and stuff like that as you pointed out, and i have had my couple of arguments and videos of radical reminist and shit but this is just something else. i very much doubt, for my sanity and my personal experiences, that women like this are the norm outside of certain circles but i see w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/25 02:55 AM
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i dont think that helping men requires women to lose but i can see that mentality a lot on the left plus the role of men as anything other than willing taxpayers and numbers on a sheet or votes for their causes is also something they struggle to give. tho i still have to insist that femcels are not a real thing as incels are, like yeah, some women are delusional and/or bitter, but most probably dont struggle a lot unless its self-inflicted, they still have way more options than the average man, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/25 10:46 PM
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femcels are a little bit different tho, if they are delusional thats that but the average woman has as many marriage prospects as she wants, even more now with the internet so i dont see the comparison
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/25 10:40 PM
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sounds pretty self-inflicted to men but, if they dream about marriage so much but arent getting it i would assume we would see some kind of social movement around it, bad example but we would see something like incels but for women who dont get husband options so to speak, and i dont really see that happening at all
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/25 09:05 PM
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you tolerate men being blamed for shit on the left? and assuming that guys get a well-paying job, then what? all guys get henched and suddenly women date them?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/25 08:58 PM
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africa is not a country and the world isnt the US, the left sucking isnt an American grift, its an opinion that anyone can have, not only Twitter grifters or Trump supporters or whoever you feel weirdly righteous to fight against.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/25 08:57 PM
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are women suffering from this tho? like i see some stats about women feeling as lonely as men are but i dont see women complaining about lack of dates or sex, if anything most have too many options and either dont like them or dont want to date, but its very much voluntary, not like men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/25 08:31 PM
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why would anyone have to be Trump/Israel/Russia supporter to say that the left doesnt offer lonely men anything? you think we are all American like you or something? and what the fuck does African plant mean? you mean the continent or a specific country or what? you find african people shilling right-wing american points or is this like an "indians being scamers" kind of stereotype?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/25 08:28 PM
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Blaming women is one thing, blaming minorities is one thing (because women are half the population, therefore not a minority) and then signalling the lack of agency the average man has against the system (including the rich) is another, i think you are just mixing a lot of stuff to make your ideology more palatable for others but idk, i have heard people with your same arguments talking about helping men and it always ends up as a tool to get men to be trad or sacrifice for others.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/25 08:23 PM
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Leaving aside the fact we all cant become collectively whatever women want and effort is useless for height, face and frame or at least the gym is, the Cali governor is a grifter when it comes to mens issues, he takes that to get votes, like most democrats, tho i still respect sanders and zhoran in ny, hope they can get something done with all of this shitshow that are politics in the us.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/25 06:51 PM
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agree with all that, dont think this is hurting women that much in terms of standards with all the "dont settle queen" messaging we have they will have what they want or they will have nothing, and as the article notes, men have to conform to that or be alone and broke i guess.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/25 06:46 PM
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Women are, on average, more neurotic than men, at least, so im pretty sure that a population with a tendency to react more and/or react worse to negative emotions, as women on average are, does require more care about what they feel and how to express or points rather than points themselves, im pretty sure thats the argument the poster was making but if your argument is about men and women being the same maybe we wont see eye to eye on this issue, if its even an issue for you.
/r/MensRights03/12/25 05:34 PM
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not giving clicks to the fucking guardian but fuck galloway, aint no way he sees the economy and talks over and over about how fucked up it is and even how much it hurts young people and then turn around and have men bootstrapping into becoming atms therapist and dads for women who dont even like them, its just insane how he doesnt even do conservativism right, those fuckers at least pretend men have something to gain by following their shitty rules but galloway just pretends this is what it is …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/25 05:17 PM
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friendships and social circles are important but if women had the same difficulty living up to the standards that men put, and not just showing up and picking up whatever they want, then maybe things wouldnt be like this, alas, men propose, women dispose, so it aint happening.
/r/MensRights30/11/25 07:07 PM
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not too bad, i guess? kind of weird that many women see really smug and annoyng about the "male loneliness epidemic" when in reality many women also seem to feel something at least somewhat similar? hope they dont complain about their choices tho, i would hate to have to tell a woman in her middle age to "put herself out there" or "get some hobbies" or "just be a better person" but who knows?
/r/MensRights29/11/25 09:33 PM
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they are grown ass people, not victims, and im sure she never lacked the options of men to have a family with, she didnt wanted to tho and thats that, tho its cool that she is kind of taking resposability, still blaming her exes and shit, but hey, its a step foward.
/r/MensRights29/11/25 09:25 PM
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at some point the "advice" is counterproductive, and that is assuming good faith cause many people who hate men still like ordering us around.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 04:58 PM
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yeah but i think the message was still about making men more "usefull" if that makes sense? like, yeah, part of society and many women were dissatisfied with the "dudebro" guys but trust me that as soon as they get bored or dissatisfied with the "modern/positive masculine" men then the standard pushed will be a mix of dude bro and male feminist, with all the benefits for women/society but none for the guys who have to perform that bullshit for others.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 03:46 PM
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yeah, but with all the income inequality and lack of social support men are more likely to be homeless rather than be someone with money.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 03:43 PM
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its hyperagency for men, always.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 03:42 PM
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i agree with the workhorse analogy but still think way too many resources get at the top, and the top is filled with rich people, not necessarily women only, tho for sure its weird that politicians are promising shit to men and the media is complaining about men not working or shit like that, its all just really suspicious with how things were in the mid 2010s with the girlboss feminism stuff, it feels really phony,
/r/MensRights28/11/25 09:51 PM
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im not sure its only about white men, im brown and shit could be even worse if they think im indian or some other stereotype they dont like, and many black men say that feminist/leftist support for them is either performative or all about black women being victims and shit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 09:48 PM
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and its not even work harder for ourselves but for the state, the family, the women etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 09:47 PM
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real, and its all about the use men have for their causes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 09:46 PM
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for sure, but even those who give it are more about feeling good themselves rather than even trying to understand anything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 09:45 PM
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But doesn't this mean that the average woman is at least as mysandrist, or as "lacking in warmth" towards men, as the average feminist is? or maybe no matter how much "warmth" they have towards men, they can and will hate them if the opportunity arises? cause we also know men who say the love women and justifiy bullshit out of that false sense of knowing better than them, so why would women, specially feminist, would be any better?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 03:40 PM
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i would like to know more in-depth about what exactly hit you when it came to that terrible article you are responding to, but i cant help but ask, being a traditional man, i would argue you are in way more demand than ever before, just that you have add a bunch of stuff on top of that, but, do you genuinely not see the push, the demand, the almost requirement for all men to be trad when women are anything but? and is really not my intention to make a point about your personal life, family and m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 02:43 AM
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why are men so willing to defend and use arguments for that ideology (feminism) when they fucking hate/despise them?
/r/MensRights27/11/25 03:05 PM
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hey hold up i am against male gender roles (or kind of gender roles in general) but the word patriarchy is too weaponised for me to agree with that, you know?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/25 03:00 PM
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Wouldn't the one child policy be more genocide? as it seems to me like by demographics thats what led to the slow population decline that China is seeing today, so they kind of erased their population with that policy (and with broader economic factors but still)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/11/25 03:22 PM
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i dont think the sentiments or discourse online are the problem, the people who writte those still have a life and i dont think they change their oppinions offline, they just dont talk about it but still, i think its better if you help people who you know would help you back if the situation was different but if you are going for altruism its up to you, thats a different conversation as i am talking about the male gender role here, not sure if you are refering to that in your comments or just be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/25 03:05 AM
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i wonder if the 1% are so into ai because there are less fathers and therefore less men risking it all and grinding mindlessly for their families? that and the birthrate decline maybe.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/25 01:32 AM
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the disrespect is over the top tho, cause surely he isnt owed anything from the women or people he helped but they also arent owed the help, so i dont know why he should be expected to help people out of nowhere just because he is a man, on the same way other men shouldnt be feared out of nowhere because they are men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/25 01:23 AM
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first and most upvoted comment is literally about patriarchy and the rest are either women, men telling the guy to not whine and berate him and a few really discussing stuff, is this a reddit thing or is it just like that irl? im saying this because i dont see or know any fathers to discuss this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/25 08:36 PM
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Police violence is higher against men because men tend to be more violent to the police. The police aren't targeting men because of their gender. is this person even cosplaying as progressive in any way or as left-leaning? because im pretty sure this is an argument that racist use to deny systemic police violence, same with this Men commit the majority of crimes. Idk what else you want me to say. change men with POC of any colour and youll see, plus even if it was true, why are men more likely t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/25 04:40 PM
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quite controversial but i dont believe helping strangers is a good thing, and as we still have gender roles for men, that involves the expectation of men putting themselves at risk for women, understandable if you know them but not only i know for a fact most women woulnt reciprocate even if they could and maybe part of them would be glad to see you suffer as a man. nothing wrong with helping women if you want to but be aware its not only taken for granted, ignored or even taken advantage of, so…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/25 01:55 AM
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its the same with men dying of gang violence or suicide everywhere, it's our fault, and if it isn't our fault it's still our responsibility, cause "who set the system up?" and on top of not having our problems be taken seriously, we have to be there of everyone and everything else because thats what a man does.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 06:42 PM
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i have very cautious optimism about the guy making social programs for the homeless, like shelters or stuff like that, and to some extent, his promises of affordability should have an impact on men even if we are not his target audience. well see tho, but i want to believe it wont be as bad as some mysandrist democrat or an even worse racist/facist republican.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 06:34 PM
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probably our best bet to get something out this political climate, at least he is not hating and pandering to women mindlessly, its a small step fowards but we have to take it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 03:25 PM
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women dont need to cope with being without relationships because they get them at the click of an app or with just a yes to one of the many guys who are tryng to get with her irl, they are more likely to have issues dealing with too much attention rather than a lack of it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 03:24 PM
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that is absolutly not the case and you can simply say to a feminist that you are not a feminist or desagree with her ideology and you wont be just wrong, but a patriarch, a sexist, an obstacle to libreation, a facist, you name it, its a typical if you are not with me you are against me and women absolutly expect men to be with them, wheter or not they care about them or not, and most dont care.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 03:18 PM
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eh i think most would say yes, but would say it lightly to appear "proper"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 03:14 PM
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thats honestly our best bet to have anything done for men, at least in mainstream politics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 03:11 PM
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Men as a class have no collective power and are way more likely to ditch "lesser" men under the bus for women's approval.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 03:08 PM
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i wonder if it will ever backfire eventually? like we know that putting someone on a pedestal is bad for the one worshiping and the one being worshipped but collectively we do that do women and i wonder if thats bad for them? or it if will be bad in the future? like let alone the "men are moving to the right" or "young men are less feminist than older men", i genuinely wonder if women as a whole will see some type of consequence of this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 04:24 AM
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good to know there are some people like you out here, i could only wish that more people, men, women, anyone, would know what we talk about here or even cared to know but....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/25 04:14 AM
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ey in my defense i was writing that after having the dumbest conversation/debate with a woman after mentioning the male loneliness epidemic and she literally began to virtue signal and say that guys are only going after models and addicted to porn and if they were just good people they wouldnt be alone, sounds surreal but if you know how these convos go then you know how those people are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/25 07:09 PM
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left-leaning but hate the people i have to share the political spectrum with fr
/r/MensRights19/11/25 02:54 PM
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eh i guess thats fair? i honestly was expecting some bullshit about theraphy or putting oneself out there or just be a good person bro, but yeah, your take sounds good, i honestly still dont trust women to give advice on this as many of you lot really just want to make the men more convinient (but not too convenient) but i think i agree with your points.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/25 07:33 PM
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i think the popularisation of "therapy culture" and therapy-speak instead of having informed and scientific takes on mental health (and accessibility to healthcare in general) has been a disaster to this generation and to society in general. Also fuck ana psychology.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/25 07:12 PM
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i don't know if I have the time or the breath of mind to give you a good response, but i also have a question that i think its important: what if the desire of these socially disadvantaged men, so simps and incels, what if this worship of the idea of women and being socially accepted is what they really want? like yeah, if they were inhibited by social norms about their beings and identity, that rebellion would be good but what if what you really want is to be someone's dad and someone's husband…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/25 06:50 PM
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are men supposed to be allies or are they supposed to be punching bags or maybe dildos/atms if women feel like it? Because sorry if this sounds too incel, but it seems like men are seen as a convenience for the movement instead of people to either collaborate with much less support or help.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/25 04:38 PM
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with all due respect, and this is more about me being paranoid about the responses i get when people want to "Help" men, i think the difference in treatment is too huge to ignore, and let me explain, from the fact that you as a woman can give your takes on men and be accepted (and they seem to be good but still) compared to how men have to walk on thin ice when taking about women, and adding to the fact that most men are seen as an utility rather than a person (and we all are seen as that but me…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/25 04:35 PM
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i have many, many doubts about using the methods we use for women to "ease" ugly men into being....tolerable? attractive as make-believe? tho i do agree we need less demonisation and stuff like that, i just dont know what you have in mind when you want to see these "reformed" incels or simps, because women often have real weird views about what they consider "good" men, all on their convenience. also im a man from south america and while i live in a "good" part of the country, im not sure how th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/25 04:02 PM
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real shitty name to have for a system when most men aren't even benefiting from it, and when lots of "patriarchs" or however you wanna call authority figures under the system, happen to be women and have way more power than any guy on the streets.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/25 08:30 PM
1

he is still a tradcon tho
/r/MensRights15/11/25 04:12 PM
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i was expecting a 75% of them to leave, but is something like 68% according to Google, still high but less than i was expecting.
/r/MensRights15/11/25 04:05 PM
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bold of you to believe they like/live their dads unless they happen to be convinient for them/spoil them rotten/are usefull for their means.
/r/MensRights15/11/25 04:00 PM
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i also know about that sub but im pretty sure they still blame it upon men when they think onlyfans/sexwork is bad? as in, "the patriarchy makes the innocent girl have to sell her body to survive" or shit like that
/r/MensRights13/11/25 06:43 PM
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most women dont approach most men or respond to the approaching of most men so the heavy lefting is in the men most of the time at the beginning of the relationship and from then on there are expectations about the man continuing to be active while the woman is mostly passive, that is not 50/50
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/25 03:19 PM
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tho for sure he is out of his depth with him being significantly older and married, his advice and clinical expertise plus his willingness to meet people where they are at just makes him a person who is worth listening to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/25 03:15 PM
2

eh personality and confidence do have their uses in life but wheter or not they make a difference if she isnt attracted to your looks or status or is even repulsed by it is another thing on its own.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/25 03:13 PM
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i think he was bisexual? but your point still stands tho i would say that most lesbians dont talk about the DV numbers cause it makes women (and themselves) look bad, plus they engage with a lot of virtue signaling so high crimes between their populations crushes their "better than" attitude towards straight people in arguments.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/11/25 03:11 PM
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Lots of guys also have this weird savior complex with those women and/or hate themselves so much that they accept the projection of another man's actions on them and still support them and kiss the ground they walk on. not the take away responsibility for the man haters but other men let them get away with way too much.
/r/MensRights12/11/25 09:05 PM
1

Yeah, i think I could tell you a thing or two about what happens to my guys growing up in South America, even the ones living in "good parts" or how the majority of victims of violent crimes are men, no matter if they die by having a dick the same as julius cesar or ciseron if they still die the same dogs death, the same death that women are less likely to die by. but i think i know we wont see eye to eye on this so ill just say that on between working like a mule or getting in crime or showing …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 08:53 PM
1

young women outearn young men these days and men are disproportionally more likely to be more homeless or die from work accidents, are men inferior or is this part of the culture that apparently worships men? the twich example is such a weird thing, the top VTubers are all women and the top performers/earners on OnlyFans are all women, surely that i think there could be some bias for women, but do you think that culture and that money somehow creates a culture that discriminates men, or does it …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 06:48 PM
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and why is there no "female loneliness epidemic"? when men are treated like shit by women who are apparently straight? are mens standards that low or something? cause thats also on us, or at least on the simps and whiteknights in general.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 05:18 PM
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its like women being strange about gay men and their sexuality just out of fetish, those men and the men you mentioned getting pegged arent people as much as just objects to get women off, which is strange given how many sexual options straight women can have at any given time but they somehow chooese what doesnt even involves them, but women are the only ones getting objectified apparently.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 03:15 PM
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great point, there are also programs and policies for "parity" about having women in all kinds of sectors, especially the high prestige and high paying ones like tech or politics almost all around the world, is there anything remotly similar for men anywhere?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 02:30 PM
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but as much as these feminist grifters writing mysandry for a living are tools for the rich, dont they even imagine that maybe if they even feel like they need men as anything more than a punchbag, like when they need votes or stuff, is a man supposed to read this shit and become a feminist? is he gonna support the same people who fucking despise him?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/25 02:29 PM
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You are projecting, like an incel blaming all women or a racist blaming all non-white people for their problems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/25 08:33 PM
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the positives are gender neutral while the negatives are for men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/25 08:28 PM
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The ambassadors of the centrist manosphere praise women’s advancement and the feminist cause while insisting that men’s economic and vocational anxieties are more naturally potent. This ambivalence reveals the weakness of their side. The right-wing manosphere knows that masculinity is a series of dominance signals beamed from behind iridescent Oakleys and the wheel of the most enormous pickup truck you’ve ever seen; it is a smirking multimillionaire who “DESTROYS” a young woman at a college-host…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/25 08:22 PM
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Part self-help memoir and part Dudes Rock polemic, the book presents a capital-letter credo: “Men Protect, Provide, and Procreate.” Masculinity can be expressed simply by “getting up at fucking six in the morning and going to work and doing shitty work such that you can protect your family economically,” Galloway once said. And the evolved man also insures that he does not slack off “domestically, emotionally, or logistically,” leaving his partner to ask, in Galloway’s signature demotic, “O.K., …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/25 08:21 PM
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i dont know about that governor but wit caution i would say this is great progress for men in the US, lets hope they follow it thru and dont syphon that money and support for women, as tends to happen with these initiatives.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/25 02:57 PM
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Bernie really said nothing in that segment about men but that should tell us a lot about how unimportant men's issues are for his party and the establishment in general.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/25 02:56 PM
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i guess this could be a good critique about the perception of masculine stuff in general but 2 things: 1-many men either dont seem to care about the topic or care as much as they perceive women care about it or it could get them into better standing with women- 2-many people are really weird with feminine aesthetics on men, and maybe this is too particular but i have seen a lot of women giving "permission" to men to use skirts and dresses and like, are we supposed to thank them or something? Tho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/25 10:42 PM
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i think they are helping someone else when they give their "advice": themselves, be it women wanting to be seen as virtuous and moral by obviously going for men who are good people and respectful and *insert whatever positive quality they feel like* (and ignoring the hordes of women going for the exact opposite), you also get men who stroke their own dick by going about how they are so great and/or became great people and are not mysoginist losers at all and thats why they get a gf, tho im sure …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/25 08:28 PM
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doesnt seems to be an effort to exclude men as much as a statement about how many women are in high positions on his political campaign and party but if he says some bullshit or does stuff that goes against our interests we have call that out, no matter how leftist he is, but that hasnt happened yet.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/25 07:25 PM
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the leftist consensus doesn't appeal to a lot men so maybe there could be something wrong about it? and you are always free to oppose anyone or anything here, tho honestly you dont seem to have good arguments.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/25 07:16 PM
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In-group women benefit way more than out-group men by your own terms tho, just look at the rich wives of the "patriarchs" and tell me they are the "ball" Meanwhile, some homeless guy somehow is a "player" of this game.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/25 07:08 PM
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i told one of those women that she only talked about sexuality because she didn't had anything else to offer, and the convo got shot down real fast.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/25 07:06 PM
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it isnt set by naive people but by people who want to believe that their cool lives are a product of their excellent personality instead of a myriad of other factors outside of their control and maybe if they looked or had the circumstances of the lonely, then they would suffer like them, no matter how good of a person they think they are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/25 07:04 PM
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and also women's emotions are attended when they express them, since childhood when a little girl cries everyone goes to soothe her but when a little boy cries, everyone (men, women and society), tells him to suck it up and "boys dont cry" or shit like that, so its no wonder one gender is seen as better with emotions than the other, when men cant even express them and women are incentivize to show and use them all the time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/25 07:00 PM
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and the idiots upvoting shit like that would swear that they never put women on a pedestal or just treat them like people while doing shit like that...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/25 06:57 PM
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holy shit, that one is way too spot on, see it all the time on forums that give "advice" to incels and lonely men about how to attract women and stuff about dating, its fucking nuts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/25 06:53 PM
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I'm kind of glad people here are not sucking that man's dick or reeves, not only because cults of personality or because platforming people and not ideas is bad, but also because some groups that want to "help" have a tendency to pander these guys and get really pissy when you want their "adivice" that is more about shuting men up and get them to be useful for other people but never helping them, or even asking what they want.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/25 04:03 PM
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Re-read that shit and I'm kind of surprised some people here aren't more on board with this "article? like, seeing how people here sometimes skew conservative/right-wing, i thought that some would be very smug about women apparently begging to be married and have kids, while some hag writing an article calls them out for using social media and not having kids and sex and humble-brags about doing both herself. really weird hitpiece about a reality that woman doesn't have to live in herself, its a…
/r/MensRights07/11/25 06:46 PM
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Weird how they treat a very grown and successful women as a victim of her own very deliberate choices, it's almost as if they were talking about a child or something.
/r/MensRights07/11/25 06:39 PM
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You honestly can say the same about rage-bait content about women only fucking 6ft guys, scamming idiots for dinners and money in hopes of a relationship, treating men that fall short of their stupid standards like dirt or worse etc, its all pointless tho it does reflect lots of social issues people have nowdays.
/r/MensRights07/11/25 06:37 PM
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you sure you are in the right sub? are you expecting men to agree that we are all toddlers barely tolerated by the adults in the room, as women apparently are?
/r/MensRights07/11/25 02:49 PM
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i dont quite have that hope about this becoming mainstream as much i just think the hate isnt sustainable and once too many men drop out of this rat race or drop out of life, even, then maybe the lack of workers, tax payers and makers of more citizens, when the bottom interest of the corpos and the money is lacking because of men not being there, then maybe well have some leavearage, but as cynical as that is i cant trust or even pretend to hope for the good intentions of society and institution…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/25 02:29 AM
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i guess it is gynocentrism? im not sure if thats what you mean but if that is the case then we are kind of cooked in that front, too much biology and social conditioning to turn back tho at least i hope there is no more worsening of the situation with how much feminism as a political position is waning even if society is always worshiping the ground women walk as a whole.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/25 02:20 AM
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yeah but i think that women have each others back more often, even when they are wrong and im not sure if we as men can ever come close to that kind of commitment and bias, in both good and bad ways.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/25 02:18 AM
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im pretty sure lots do care and believe in what they say, they just hate themselves so much that they project their self-hate into other men, its awful and sad in a weird way but they aren't victims either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/25 02:17 AM
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Why are guys so willing to throw other men under the bus for crumbs of female validation? i swear we are our worst fucking enemy sometimes bro.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/25 02:36 PM
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Why are guys so willing to throw other men under the bus for crumbs of female validation? i swear we are our worst fucking enemy sometimes bro.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/25 02:35 PM
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yes, and when they say the same about men, it's pure projection.
/r/MensRights05/11/25 02:44 AM
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we should stop with the ragebait videos and talk about something else man.
/r/MensRights04/11/25 05:02 PM
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no
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/25 04:54 PM
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its really weird, i imagine it could ruin someone else's life if they really follow that stupid "advice" but maybe someone who is that gullible or that stubborn to follow through with that would still do it regardless, they only need the validation to do it and they can always get it on these forums.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/25 04:47 PM
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i meant that as in "why do men keep simping for those women" because yes, they never run out of idiots, but i dont know if i want to treat those men as victims bro, i know for a fact most simps would throw their own fathers under the bus for a crumb of female validation so i dont consider them "innocent" at all.
/r/MensRights04/11/25 04:44 PM
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i would even argue he is worse than reeves, and i know that could be an overstatement, but at least reeves has some orgs, books, talks etc all dedicated to men and young boys, even if kind of misguided and decidedly feminist, but every time i hear galloway he is always bitching or going on talks or scolding men or whoever he thinks its at fault (but never women)
/r/MensRights04/11/25 03:14 AM
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And doesn't all of this ignore how, for instance, people who have to clean women's bathrooms say that they are dirtier or at least as dirty as the men's? and this is without mentioning real experiences of men living with women as roomates or the like and how they can be as "dirty, lazy etc" as men apparently are and no one bats a fucking eye. also i dont know if the people on those relationships subs really get read and care about the posts and the posters or simply default to their first reacti…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/25 03:08 AM
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nah i know that we as men, or at least most men, have little to no leverage, not only about women but on society as a whole, as men are not even a political category worth pandering to, but i guess i just wanted to bitch a little about it, sad state of affairs and i dont see it improving any time soon....
/r/MensRights04/11/25 02:54 AM
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part of it is because mens standards for women are on the floor or lower, but also because society expects and demands more from men, from our lives when there is danger to our services when its convinient. which is weird seeing how some women have so much hatred and dislike or fear for men in general but kind of do nothing about beyond bitching or getting some sucker to be their toy and pretend he is "one of the good ones":
/r/MensRights03/11/25 04:27 PM
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how to other men keep getting with these women bro? i swear they never run out of idiots to have relationships with, it almost makes me hate other men fr.
/r/MensRights03/11/25 03:23 PM
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people really are lenient to women everywhere right? i agree this is just embarrassing/silly but idk if one of your parts as a man touched one of your classmates even as an accident, the responses would want the guy arrested or something like that.
/r/MensRights03/11/25 03:18 PM
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its either coldness or infantilisation with those people, from what i have heard, not sure which one is worse tho.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 03:07 PM
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not getting romantic attention or not having relationships does seems to lower life quality overall, unless the person ace/aro but they are a really small minority.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 02:58 PM
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gotta give you points for honesty ig, even if it sucks.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/25 02:56 PM
2

what about russia, specially russia nowdays?
/r/MensRights01/11/25 07:57 PM
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is all around kind of weird, but i don't think this is coming from lesbianism or lusting after women, and more about hating men and being ideologically captured by their own weird ideals.
/r/MensRights31/10/25 10:03 PM
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thats slander.... towards the incels.
/r/MensRights31/10/25 09:53 PM
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they value looks at least as much as men if not more, and that is not anti-intellectual, if anything, saying that women are just after personality or even worse, resources,is gynocentric and just tries to paint women as non-shallow compared to men, as if we weren't from the same species, tho im not sure if that is your point. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1743609518313638 “Eye-tracking shows both sexes visually attend to attractiveness cues (faces/bodies) when judging po…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/25 05:30 PM
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Men usually place a much higher value on physical appearance compared to who? women? the same women groping footballers or male models of underwear? the same women writting and reading smut novels about tall, chiselled, rich and handsome men? are we deadass? and on the porn part? arent a large number of porn consumers women? are we pretending they only get horny for feelings or something? i swear that people just believe whatever the fuck they want.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/25 04:07 PM
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its a matter of vibes and i think as men we will have more luck desensitising ourselves to that bullshit rather than beg for men and women with prejuices to maybe not be like that, sounds like stoic bullshit gender norms but realistically it seems to me like indiference is the choice here, tho calling out this stuff is still important just not useful at best or a mark of guilt at worst
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/25 02:43 AM
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why do you think the "vibes" changed so much now that you are older? is it about your behavior, looks or something like that? how you come across or how people perceive you now? not to imply you were really creepy before and now you magically changed or anything but almost just curiosity as lots of older men that i know dont exactly express what you did here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/25 02:42 AM
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2-can't say that I would like to share space with Andrew Tate of whoever is "antifeminist" and I'm not actually against women's rights, if anything, I'm kind of indifferent to the topic, as so many people already care so much about women, so much so that there doesnt seems to be enought care around to even listen to mens issues, i would never call myself a male feminist or a feminist of any kind at this point, but i want to be somewhat carefull to not fall into right-wing/reactionary politics as…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/25 06:17 PM
0

i still think that if more men didnt let this shit slide, things might change but many guys would rather lie and pretend the women who ignore him or use him for dates are his "roster" to feel himself desirable or would simply shut up and endure because they are that desperate for female validation. so without taking away responsability to women for their own problems, we have at least part of the fault here.
/r/MensRights29/10/25 02:19 AM
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i honestly dont want apologies from women, i kind of detest this "colective guilt" sort of thing that men are put into when talking about women and their experiences with some men, while i would want my experiences to be taken seriously and not have to measure them up to whatever any specific woman would have suffered or beg for any recognition i definetly hate the humilliation ritual that men are suposed to go thru when hearing women "trauma dump" or vent about abusive men, so i wouldnt want to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/25 02:53 PM
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and hear me out before you judge but i have never understood how women can just talk about their experiences with men being abusive or sexually coercive as a gotcha when i could never do that with my own with women, and ill elaborate, i have had many discussions with women on the internet when stuff basically devolves into namecalling and the like and then women spout some experience that they had with some random man, extrapolate that to everyone and then there is this weird expectation to just…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/25 02:36 AM
2

and other leftist dudes will pretend is not about them when they are one shared trait away from being treated like trash by her and her supporters, from the same people who apparently want to govern us and apparently have our best interest in mind... and yes, i dont care if this sounds misandrist but our gender is really responsible for letting this shit pass and pretend we are bigger than that just out of fear of being called insecure and shamed into conformity, obviously this doesn't absolve w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/25 02:25 AM
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i dont think there is any way to shame a woman for being unsuccessful in the same way we have basement dweller, virgin, incel, no bitches for men, like, its really weird that we have so many insults for "loser" men but when we have those situations in women, everyone is quiet or sympathetic. and we are supposed to be the ones who have it better and are sooo privileged...
/r/MensRights24/10/25 03:16 PM
1

most men want everything to do with most women, which is why we are treated like shit and most men let it pass or even like it when they are "one of the good ones" or shit like that, its kind of our fault but not in the way feminist think.
/r/MensRights24/10/25 03:11 PM
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many other men tend to feel weird towards gay men, for a myriad of reasons, mostly not very accurate if at all, and many gay men feel a kinship towards women for the perceived support and the perceived commonality of being oppressed or a minority, even if women arent one or the other.
/r/MensRights24/10/25 03:01 AM
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and what seems to matter a lot is visible entusiasm and support, like it doesnt matter if you inform yourself, donate or help with womens rights on any context, if you dont show the part, then you are less than uninterested but straight up against them and a woman hater, and a mysoginist and and and.... Like I legit remember some social media popular YouTuber/TikToker guy who made videos about supporting women and microfeminisms and shit like that while cheating on his girlfriend or lying about …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/10/25 02:39 AM
2

im pretty sure most women like or love men, especially the ones that are convenient to them, and inconvenient when they want them to be, like a man who is super cool and collected but opens up only to her about things she wants him to open up about, but in general i think that we as men also have a share of blame, and a big one at that, as there are so many men who grovel and kiss the ground women step on, plus many men do beg for women to let them be useful to them, like some "safe edgy" kind o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/25 02:15 AM
1

cant say i read all that but self improvement is to maybe stop your life from being less bad, if you are lucky but yeah, there is no social mobility and there is not a lot to do when biology or genetics are stacked against you, unless you genuily enjoy doing all that, which i asume you dont based on the post, then living instead of always improooving is better, if anything.
/r/MensRights21/10/25 10:20 PM
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it is real but to some extent, i have seen it happening with men who can afford to follow those behaviours so real but not exclusive to women in theory, but overwhelmingly in practice, as men who are "hypergamous" are so successful or good looking that they dont count irl.
/r/MensRights21/10/25 10:16 PM
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Surprising and kind of weird that the UN, with its giant focus on girls and women, voted or released a statement like this, i wonder if it is something unique with Croatia or if the whole organisation had some ideological change?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/25 09:55 PM
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Good context on your relationship, i dont think i was exactly demonising your ex or women in general or that i impled that you were doing that but wheter she was a victim or a villain i genuinely cant get past the absolute lack of accountability that women get compared to the hyperagency men get, that has to do more with the stuff that i know and have seen but its neither here nor there. and i don't know about that part about women getting more out of friendships compared to the "need" men have …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/25 12:02 AM
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i think i just dont see lots of issues that men have reflected on women, women aren't exactly lacking in romantic or sexual options, dont seem to lack employment opportunities, social support etc, dont seem to have our rates of suicide and i could go on but if there are issues with them i guess it may take a while to see the wide picture?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/25 11:49 PM
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man, i have had some experiences with messy divorce cases and seem some stuff at the lawyer offfice and my lectures but nothing quite prepares you to see something like this, much less to live it and unfortunately, is very hard to litigate these kinds of cases, and that is even outside of america so for all that i know your state may have more awfull laws, so i honestly dont know what to tell you. but if you could allow me to ask you about something, i personally interact with a lot of incels or…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/25 08:43 PM
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and doesnt these asumes that any man on this age group who agrees men have it worse is automatically a deadbeat? like what about the men who are childless, divorced or patnered but without kids who agree that men have it worse? are the only men that matter parents or something?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/25 08:29 PM
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This principle also means that 4th-wave feminism harms women equally, just not very obviously. thats an interesting idea tho i dont see it on practice, as women seem to be thriving while men seem to be have more and more pressure to live up to expectations they themselves didnt push for or want.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/25 08:13 PM
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man they are so desperate for male votes for the next elections.... hope it goes well tho, Cynicism aside, is there a legal way to make the advice of the committee more binding to implement it as public policy or something like that? i dont know what those institutions do in the us so i hope that it doesnt gets stuck as being lip service for men and leave it at that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/25 08:10 PM
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honestly, yeah, if more men stood on their bussiness and didnt let that shit slide we all would be a little bit better off.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/25 03:02 PM
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why dont they ask men and boys what they think being a man means? are we trutly so braindead that we need men who havent had the issues that we have now to tell us what to do? do they not trust young men and boys enough to take their words for it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/25 09:56 PM
1

if you want to pass on your misery to more miserable men that's your choice but i cant agree with that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/25 07:16 PM
1

do you want to profile people with mental illness or something? law enforcement might as well keep an eye on you if you are a man because lots of crimes are commited by men and you would be fine with that right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/25 03:41 AM
5

no, you are biased towards women and I dont need to be a right-winger to know that women also have a share in these social issues, as they are part of society, in the same way men share blame on womens issues because we are the other half of the population, if you want to absolve them of responsability thats fine but dont pretend you are correct, even some women would agree other women uphold male gender role, so stop the cap.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/25 06:31 PM
1

there are things that definitely need to be addressed when it comes to men in this society this framing right here about men being problems instead of being people with problems is where my biggest issue is at, you lot, or at least many of you lot dont want to help men as much as you want to have to stop caring about men without seeming callous or pretending that you are still good people, and while this may seem a problem of language, i genuily think that way too many efforts on "helping" men a…
/r/MensRights16/10/25 02:53 PM
3

its not so much about emotions as much as it is about systems that could be barring men from having a life worth living, like a lack of access to higher education or career oportunities, afordability crisis, stagnant wages, need to provide and protect even when getting less than nothing out of it, and a myryad of issues that men simply cant talk their way out of or theraphy their way out of. and i do have respect for psychology and stuff like that but men cant pull themselves out by their bootst…
/r/MensRights16/10/25 02:46 PM
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its incredible how far people like you go to absolve women of responsibility when they have at least half if not more of the fault of this "patriarchy" or at least for the policing and reinforcement of the male gender role on men and boys.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/25 02:41 PM
5

its whatever is convenient to either women or society, not to men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/25 02:39 PM
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if too many men fail to live up to it or straight up dont want to, there could be a window to change it socially, or the reinforcement and policing of it could be doubled down with shaming and worse, its one thing or the other.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/25 02:38 PM
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its kind of like inceldom but socially acceptable, cause women are wonderfull ig.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/25 02:36 PM
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i think the issue is mostly secular vs religious rather than men vs women or even right vs left (even if obviously more right wingers will be pro-life and most leftist will be pro-choice) but im largely ambivalent about the whole thing personally, at best i think women should have a right to choose but at the same time i know for a fact most women woulnt move a finger for my rights, like if i was conscripted or something so its whatever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/25 09:12 PM
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i personally have a lot of distrust for women, and especially women who want to "care" about male issues due to my own experiences but thats just me, you are completely free to browse, ask, communicate and interact with the community and while i have some bad experiences due to being South American and largely failling to live to the male standard (a standard held by men women and society in general) i suspect that most guys here would be more than willing to let you in, if that is the right ter…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/25 09:06 PM
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i personally dont owe women anything and they dont owe me anything as well, i would want to keep it that way if not because lots of women have an utilitarian view of men, in which men are a product or a convinience to them and their causes and must not only suport them and any woman who needs it just because, but pretend that they know better than men about our issues and try to "womanexplain" men about what we should do and how we shoud do it, that while also benefiting from mens issues directl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/25 08:53 PM
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and arent there studies that show that modern loneliness hits everyone kind of equally? there are even some when the primary victims are elderly people, especially elderly wome,n as they live longer than their male counterparts and have less connections in general, even more if they dont have caring children, which is something very normal in a society that values productivity that much, are we suposed to tell these women to pull themselves out by their bootstraps and "not be terrible people" an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/25 03:15 PM
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could you elaborate?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/25 03:39 PM
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again, i dont think the right is the answer but pretending that men have to care and vote about people who treat them like shit just because the other alternative is worse needs to stop, i dont think that men or anyone should support the republicans or the tories or any right wing goverment but at some point the left needs to know that they need to give as much importance to mens issues as they do to womens issues if they want our votes, not just be better compared to fucking facists.
/r/MensRights10/10/25 03:30 PM
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but he is hugely influential within his sphere and it pains me that is the case, especially as a leftist man, its just alienating.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/25 02:14 AM
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yeah, i still dont think the right is the answer as i have more to lose in a world governed by them but i get your point, still think that being apolitical or taking what you can for both sides is better tho
/r/MensRights10/10/25 02:13 AM
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man fuck that guy and fuck the trump administration but idk how guys are suposed to trust a woman who says that shit about men when we know for a fact a guy who bodyshames a woman would get 1000x heat for saying the same bullshit? what are they even playing at when they dont even have the male vote covered?
/r/MensRights09/10/25 05:01 PM
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men are like this because of a lack of in-group bias and an innate fear to be ostracized if they go agaisnt the "men bad" mantra that some pleaces have nowdays, tho the toxic masculinity term is a psyop to demonize whatever behavior people dont like in men, so i have to disagree with that.
/r/MensRights07/10/25 09:38 PM
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as a short guy i don't want to be political ammunition for women to win stupid arguments or for anyone for that matter, i very strongly suspect the low self-esteem guys on the left will shut up or blame other men for this shit but how they fucking trust a person who throws under the bus anyone just to win and pretends she cares about everyone else is beyond me. doesnt makes me vote for a facist or anything but holly shit, it would almost be good to know they are like this if our future didnt dep…
/r/MensRights07/10/25 09:36 PM
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i wouldn't abandon my politics over that but im sure as hell not trusting someone who would mock someone who looks likes me in a heartbeat just to pretend to be better, someone like that doesnt has my best interest in mind, and i also dont think that some guy making fun of a woman to win an argument is any better, shit is just vile, not as vile as many facist but not trustworthy either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/25 09:23 PM
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i imagine people here would know what im talking about but on one of the many long-winded F.D signifier videos about men and masculinity one specific bit about incels changed into an argument about "men being desired in many forms" and back to back changed into a bit mocking andrew tate for being "chinless" only to end with some stuff about men not having to worry about insecurities, it was fucking astounding and i cant believe he is suposed to be someone on the left talking about masculinity to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/25 09:20 PM
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there is also this weird push to have men in trades, and dont get me wrong, there is a very good generational gap for my guys to make money when the old people in trades retire, but at the same time we dont have "boys in steam" programs or stuff like that to get men into "higher paying industries", and while i do think we as men could do more to help boys, pretending that society cares about men and boys falling behing in the same way they cared about women and girls would be deluded, politician…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/25 09:12 PM
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maybe she is really hot or something, god knows most guys would die and grovel for a kind of decent woman these days.
/r/MensRights03/10/25 08:00 PM
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no one fucking tells women to be virgins in the west, not in most asia for what i know.
/r/MensRights03/10/25 07:52 PM
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its the double standard that is fucked up, as men are shamed and called names for way less.
/r/MensRights03/10/25 04:17 PM
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to be fair if they did exist they were for rich women tho so were colleges for men or higher education in general i think.
/r/MensRights03/10/25 04:11 PM
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are we assuming that women who spend hundreds of dollars on smut novels, read fanfics 24/7 and idk, have porn in audio are not addicted to porn in the same way men are? or that it doesnt affects them as much? and isnt liking a man for his looks, status, stability or emotions he provides equally dehumanising? isnt the guy a means to and end in the same way a woman would be if she is "used" for sex?
/r/MensRights03/10/25 04:09 PM
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do you guys know many women like the ones the article talks about, i have my own grievances with women that i know or knew, but are they this bad where you guys live? are they that cooked?
/r/MensRights03/10/25 04:03 PM
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are they framing the unrealistic standards as bad tho?
/r/MensRights02/10/25 02:30 PM
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i think their standards are lookism with a touch of the personality of a smut protagonist, or simply the whole package of some lead of a smut book, tall, dark, handsome, rich and is an ashole to everyone with her and she can fix him, its really hard to explain that and sound reasonable so at some level it makes sense, dont want any woman complaining about their bfs or hookups when they are the ones who get into those, they are grown ass people too and deserve to be responsible for their own acts…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/25 02:25 PM
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men who accept and celebrate this bullshit dehumanising and harming themselves for social validation are also to blame, this shit wouldnt happen if more men didnt feared disappointing women and society more than being miserable themselves.
/r/MensRights01/10/25 03:58 PM
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lots of men are already dropping out but if anythin,g it only seems to promote more male hate and fake concern for us.
/r/MensRights01/10/25 03:55 PM
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men would need to have enough stakes in the game to be not only organized as a class separated and protected (like women are) but also we would need to have an in-group bias for men as women have for each other, and all that simply aint happening as long as men not only care about women more than they care about themselves but care more about what women might think instead of how they can help men who need it.
/r/MensRights01/10/25 03:52 PM
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i mean, i kind of dont care about fat or broke women being played by guys on Tinder, that's on them, and i also dont think its quite so easy to have an apartment in a good area , depending on the city but they just really acuse men of doing what they always do, its almost as if they dont consider men below their standards as men in general, almost.
/r/MensRights01/10/25 03:48 PM
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im curious about the red-pill/black-pill or wider internet based ideologies about masculinity on china, like, i know ideas about women only wanting rich, tall and handsome men are kind of obvious and universal but i wonder if there are incels or pick-up artists or something like that in china? or in wider asia if you know.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/25 03:43 PM
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they dont hate them when they just "happen" to be whatever they want, even if they do hate the effort and think its cringe to cater to them, weirdly enough.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/25 03:37 PM
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i guess i sound like a devisl advocate here but you know how someone giving you a really good gif because they know you is so much better than someone stalking your social media giving you the same gif? its all about the vibes for them, specially from women, if they "feel" or just make up (there is no real diference at some level) bad vibes about you, then you are doomed and everything you do will be read on that light, this doesnt means we shouldnt be mindfull about how we come across as men (a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/25 03:36 PM
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i dont know if that is what you are tryng to say but your comment makes those women seem just ignorant or lacking knowledge of how they come across, that absolves them of responsibility in my opinion, cause they arent dumb, they are malicious and know exactly what they are doing, they relish in "punching up" when in reality the men they mock are so disadvantaged that they are really punching really down and its free real state because they are real viticms as women but at the same time never hav…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/25 03:23 PM
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and its not like women really value friendship more than romance, when they are not bitching about their male friends falling in love with them or even having stupid fights with their female friends, women can afford to virtue signal because most get romantic validation at the click of an app or just by existing, they dont value something they can get by breathing, meanwhile how much does it cost for a man to have a fraction of that validation and how valued or devalued are men by how many women…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/25 07:15 PM
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leaving weight aside its kind of weird how much they bitch about not responding, not communicating and shit like that when most men have the same to say about women, if they even get a number or a match from the "queens" in the first place, i swear is full projection with these people.
/r/MensRights30/09/25 07:08 PM
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bro why are you even here?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/25 02:23 AM
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i think that masculinity can be what you make out of it, as in being however a man acts, but i do think trad masculinity and positive masculinity are bad to say the least.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/25 02:19 AM
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maybe focusing on activities together as much as possible? i mean that as in ways to be active as a group in the beginning to foster camaraderie and shared goals that everyone can participate in.
/r/MensRights29/09/25 05:29 PM
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no, if you want one separated maybe it could only about mra activism or stuff like that? i dont know, i just think that dating and social stuff is too connected to males rights to shut it out of here just because some think its less important.
/r/MensRights29/09/25 05:22 PM
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id rather not care about them but its kind of wierd how some right wing looneys really go with that "war on masculinity" thing about how men cant be men anymore and the fucking best the left has to offer is something akin to saying "um akshualy" and then proceed to bettitle men they dont like and womenexplain masculinity to men as if they knew better.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/25 02:08 PM
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Don't we have enough problems to keep us away from paying attention to this bullshit? like for all that we care these women could be on their knees for some guy or be a lesbian or asexual and just singing out her ass whatever is trendy, like hating men is, and short of disliking her shit what can we even do about this?
/r/MensRights29/09/25 02:20 AM
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honestly your whole argument reads like a right-wing dog whistle and while i do think there is problem with pensions and the brithrates your arguments seem a lot like the "great replacement" stuff said by the worst kind of racists so i gotta disagree with you on principle.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 07:22 PM
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is the vibes for me, the sub manages to be agreeable to my ideas enought to feel comfortable while simultaneously not so extremist or ideologically weird as other male spaces like menslibs or mensrights or purplepill
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 01:32 AM
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i get what you are saying but short of not believing and expressing your opposition about some toxic redpill talking points i think that there is nothing we can do about it, tho i do worry about grifters taking advantage of men by using our talking points is bad is also kind of inevitable given how our economy and social media works, so short of calling out statements you dont believe in from these individuals there is not a lot you can do about it. also as an aside this reminds me of the people…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 01:30 AM
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i disagree entirely too much with feminism but the problems you expose about the birthrates and stuff are economic in nature and i suspect the vast acumulation of wealth at the top and scraps for the bottom will make this worse but yeah, feminism has many flaws but whatever happens to childless/lonely old ladies (and whatever will happens to them) is completly on their hands and on the suckers who will surely beg to have a chance to be with them even as a badly bled wallet, and by that i mean me…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 01:22 AM
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unrelated but im kind of glad that im not in that subreddit anymore, the replies do seem to push back on whatever bullshit patriarchy the OP seemed to be pushing but the place is still full of "enlightened" men and women who seem to have it all figured out, which is a shame because the channel and the information Dr.K has is very good, even if often really out of touch with some male issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/25 01:18 AM
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i think its mostly on tiktok? with people filming men who seem "performative" and getting internet validation because of that, and even tho i agree that a big part of the masculine idea is being of use for women and society, on this specific case i think the criticism is about guys just not "getting it" and instead being "cringe" or over the top with attraction, its like men have to be attractive just because they happen to be that way but if they work too much for it they are tryhards and inste…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/25 02:19 PM
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if anything, following the advice while being unattractive is worse, as it has the same effect of an overweight woman dressing in clothes made for thiner women while acting like she really looks good, its about people not "knowing their place" in the dating scene and tryng to be something they are not, they are already unattractive and acting out makes them more cringe/unnatractive so its two strikes for whoever is following that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/25 02:14 PM
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women have a social and almost biological bias towards each other, society and humankind itself seems gynocentric even, be it by nature and nurture, plus many men also helped women reach their goals, being feminist themselves or having the power to give them their demands (even if not for womens sake) men did helped women have their rights because they felt that was the right thing to do but when it is mens turn to get help, they do even worse than ignoring, they make the problems worse or use t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/25 03:08 AM
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when i wanted resources and research on male issues, i didn't refer to this gynocentric bullshit about how men and boys who are already marginalised can and should do better for women and girls, this is actually harmfull and i cant believe Australia is wasting taxpayers money into funding this bullshit, no research would be better than this thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/25 09:50 PM
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and really do something about the parts of the movement that hates or despises men, not justify it but make a stand if they really care about us and our problems or if they really just want them votes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/25 09:40 PM
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i wouldnt trust someone to help me when parts of the campaign and its main voters at best ignore at worst despise people like me, they need to show they care for men in the same way they care for women if they want the votes, unless they feel entitled to male voters just because.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/25 09:39 PM
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its pure entitlement, they feel really entitled to male support when they let alone giving any support to men, they just shit and shit on men until that will somehow make us "one of the good ones" as another commenter said, having said that i still think left wing public policy is increasengly the only way to go fowards even if the people who adhere to the ideas (be it out of conviction or moral posturing) even if those people are really stupid at best, politics is not a social club for me, i vo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/25 09:46 PM
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that seems to be root of most if not all male issues now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 04:17 PM
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i dont know about this angle of framing your message as a way to get people to self-improve by caring about this, it sounds good if you want people to virtue signal that they care about this, but the message should be strong enough to act on its own or else the ones receiving it simply dont care enough about it, as it seems to be the case on this issue.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 03:43 AM
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i wouldnt say a woman who feels lonely wants a romantic partner wants a singular man to fix her entire life, just that she wants a romantic partner, so this sounds more to me like projection from women who had dated or interacted with men like that, and while valid, again doesnt speak for all men, in the same way your friends, who obvioulsy have a social life, dont speak for all the men who dont have one. also feminist tend to have the cute little habit of speaking at men and not to men so i don…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 03:41 AM
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You guys are extremely sheltered if you don't understand where he's coming from. he learned a lot of life lessons. But the point is that a lot of men, especially the older non-online ones, think just like the Survivor guy did at the start of that season. i dont get it, are you saying the guy on the comment was older and didn't know anything or are you saying the guys here not trusting women are sheltered and wrong? or something else?
/r/MensRights18/09/25 08:46 PM
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i dont know if this is mysandrist but its also the guys fault for doing all that shit for free, cant say i blame them but it just makes things worse for everyone involved, men and women.
/r/MensRights18/09/25 08:41 PM
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i think that sex work and especially porn/onlyfans are like drugs, they take advantage of social/emotional voids that some people (especially vulnerable people and probably vulnerable men) have to make profit and addiction out of it, its very vulture-like, tho i dont think it shoul be banned or anything like that but surely there should be conversations about using porn/drugs/parasosicial relationships as copes for stuff our society and envoirements are not conductive to give us.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/25 08:37 PM
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female lives just matter that much more ig.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/25 08:26 PM
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dont you guys love when women tell you how to be a man bro? i swear, every fucking time that a feminist comes here is some shit like this....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/25 06:53 PM
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the toxic masculinity people always seem to ignore or flat out lie about how much women and society in general incentivise and want that behaviour from men, whether they say it or not, and i could go on but more people here have better arguments than me, specially when it comes to women telling men what to do and calling it positive masculinity with the twist of it always being in service of women, as if that what we are here for, always. men being seen as more expendable is a direct result of b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/25 06:47 PM
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people are so stupid on that forum man, tho it sucks the guy didn't clap back with a little more class, like, dont know how but this is the kind of situations that make you regret a little bit years later, and even the guy himself who posted was kind of regretful. tho i don't know which comeback could have been less harsh but equally effective,
/r/MensRights16/09/25 03:04 PM
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i mean, with so many men going above and beyond for any woman, i guess its kind of normal that they have such egos? i mean, lots can literally live off the attention men give them so....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/25 07:33 PM
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i assume that women see themselves at such a high distance and superiority from men that this convenient fantasitical "positive man" would be at their level and at least "bring something" to the table or be "the bare minimum" unlike most men now)?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/25 06:36 PM
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im not writing you a fucking thesis paper for a comment on a forum bro, It sucks that you dont like the form of the argument but you can just give your reasons for not believing it instead of just going "citation needed" on every fucking sentence "Incels being the largest cohort to be citizens" its incels being their biggest critics (of the redpill) but what are you even trying to pull when you cant even cite the comment you are responding to while simultaneously demanding fucking citations here…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/25 06:28 PM
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i think she means her comment as i "no woman would express herself with those terms, based on vibes, it must be a man writing this" not that women wouldn't masturbate in public, just that they wouldn't have that vibe and terms writing that. its still kind of a weird argument but the vibes are not what matter here, is the double standard, as a man writing that shit would be blasted while people could see that shit written by a woman and just let it pass.
/r/MensRights11/09/25 02:21 AM
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i think its weird that the woman who posted that on Twitter uses biological arguments not to be attracted to "those beneath her" but would surely get mad as hell if some guy "above" her cheated because men naturally want to impregnate as many women as they can or some shit like that, or if he rejected her because of her age or a lack of curves or some shit like that and more on topic there are many metrics in which men are failling but its weird that instead of asking why that is the case or wha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/25 11:06 PM
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just out of curiosity why are you so sure?
/r/MensRights10/09/25 09:32 PM
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would most men think this shit is hot? cause im feeling like a prude for finding this kind of disturbing honestly, no matter how much i like women i dont think i would like to see anyone masturbating in public, but maybe thats just me.
/r/MensRights10/09/25 04:15 PM
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social media and isolation most likely
/r/MensRights10/09/25 04:05 PM
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i do know they dont see most men as people or even know they exist but those women still get hookups and validation at the click of an app even from those guys who dont look at them that way and are way out of their league, thats not being single at all, much less being single like a man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/25 03:09 AM
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there are some aspects in which men are lonelier (for instance, men report having less close friends and are single at higher rates) but at the same time other aspects make women feel or be lonely (old women outlive old men by a lot and hence are more lonely at advanced ages and depending on the studies some women report similar rates of frienlessness or call any half-assed acquantaince a friend and call it a day just to not feel like they are lonely even if they are) but the articles and the vi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/25 02:22 AM
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female singlehood now that is a false narrative, with how many guys grovel and kiss the ground any half-decent woman steps on, both on the internet and irl.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/25 02:15 AM
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i honestly dont think that most women are as leftist as they would like to think they are, this is not a betrayal in values as much as is just them not getting what they want out of this apps like their height or money requirements. and those apps arent even needed by women with how many dudes they already have irl so idk.
/r/MensRights08/09/25 03:20 PM
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but they do have their cake and eat it too, they get to be girlbosses and victims at the same time in almost very aspect of society, are supposedly discriminated against at work but have quotas and job fairs just for them and get paid more for the same work when looking at the younger generations, have more degrees but "academia is sexist", cant stop complaining about bad male behaviours but have a society that rewards those economically, socially, romantically and sexually, and i could go on an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/25 09:26 PM
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most dont. some care about being seen as caring and feeling they care, very few actually do, most are indifferent and a large portion actually hate or at least dislike men unless proven to be convinient for them.
/r/MensRights07/09/25 09:15 PM
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i just gotta say that i come straght out from the blackpill/redpill pipeline online and a lot of his content reminds me of that, specially the stuff about reacting to tiktoks from braindead women, but im also way out of the dating scene so im currently approaching all of this as an outsider rather than someone even willing to participate on the game. also i think that our culture would have to get a real and maybe crude look at womens sexual selection criteria and our whole conception of love an…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/25 09:08 PM
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totally fair, i wonder what kind of answers i would get at menslibs cause you here are being too reasonable here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/25 09:02 PM
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ufff, i dont know about agreeing with a hoe_math video, the guy makes sense sometimes but his methods are kind of insane, ill check it out tho, cause his reasoning seems solid.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/25 03:43 PM
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yeah, when it is just a phase or something that's completely different from it being a cope from trauma or a deep thirst for external validation or even an addiction, tho im not sure if those are the kind of bad drives you could be talking about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/25 02:42 AM
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i totally get it, and honestly, i think its the same with dudes who are promiscuous, its not like those behaviours are moral failings or anything, but even if not all promiscuous people are unpleasant of worse, my personal experiences with most of them have been so that's that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/25 02:41 AM
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i have a question for whoever has the time to give an oppinion about this, but is the constant sexualization a "red flag" or an unattractive trait for women you wanna date/are tryng to date? as in, knowing that she is selling nudes online, or practising sex work or has been an scort or striper bad for your attraction to a woman? is "hypersexuality" or "promiscuity" an unattractive trait for you lot?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/25 10:09 PM
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brought up by men when they get rejected or when women talk about stuff like dating preferences? how does conversations even go, like, women say they want taller men and then men say "this is why there is a male loneliness epidemic" or something?
/r/MensRights05/09/25 09:39 PM
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i honestly had some tamer shit to talk about this kind of women, like they expect you to talk to them like a dialogue of those books and anticipate and fulfil every need they can imagine, that plus the braindead proportions those guys have in height, muscles, bone frame etc, worse than the petite big tits blonde heroines in some smut for men that apparently were oh so oppressive, plus the expectation that one of these fantasy men woulnt be enought and they would get multiple of those chasing aft…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/25 07:07 PM
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i dont even know if is to divide us (not that it doesn't happen) but its more to make men more convenient, more easily controlled by the shame of being (or being perceived) as gay or as less masculine or as less of a man in general, and its not that other men dont do this but with women being social and sexual selectors its just really easy to see which behaviors they favour and which they shune, and looking, talking, walking, dressing or acting gay, as they perceived, its not exactly desirable …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/25 03:34 AM
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Being the man on the receiving end of the thoughts and expectations of those porn-branded women is rough tho, like even if you dont care about straight men being compared to those comvenient, always hot always cool male characters in smut and the expectations and actions women get when reality meets their fantasies, when women consume lots of gay porn of the worst kind, they really tend to show it with how they treat gay men irl and men in general, the tamest by "shipping" unwilling men into the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/25 04:26 PM
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or when women see content, situations or media about men being really close to each other, (as in bromance and stuff) and make it really gay (or accused ir being gay) and really weird very quickly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/25 03:54 PM
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If I had been talking about hetero PIV sex I am sure it would have been fine. i doubt that, you would still be a disgusting degenerate coomer and because you are a man and male sexuality in general is bad, the accusations would still be there, shifting from homophobic to just puritan but still there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/25 03:53 PM
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women arent helpless victims if they go for those guys, and if they are happy or not their grown ass lives will be the ones who take the consequences, or the grown ass life of the man who picks up the pieces and plays fixer after they have had their fun or cant get to commit with men they want, its up to them, whatever happens happens. also top guys do benefit from this shit but its complicated to explain and its not quite in bullying or shit like that, and has to do more with women moulding soc…
/r/MensRights03/09/25 03:12 AM
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i only spoke for myself, if you have the experience and the patience to help the man out, thats great, i personally despise guys like that, and despise them even more when they "get" women by throwing other men under the bus and pretending they are better than any other guy, some of those have been genuely more stupid to me than your average feminist when it came down to me and my problems and i just cant stand any guy who resembles that, you are completly free to help the guy out if you can but…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/25 03:02 AM
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i was going to get straight to the validation if this was going to be an *ncel post but it sounds to me like if you could get all the validation and love you want so desperately if you could just grovel and pray the patriarchy away with the feminists, its almost as if you wished making yourself a self-hating potential oppressor could give you happiness and women and its not working that way for you, i guess? maybe it would work if you were some self-aggrandising rich and handsome actor regurguta…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/25 06:52 PM
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i think you wanna project your self hate into other men and have them thank you for it, thats not how it works around here, plenty of self-loathing guys would self-flagelate with you if you ask them but this is not the space for it, and im saying this also because your other posts, it just shows and i dont want to hear about that here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/25 03:57 PM
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mens right advocacy is not effective because people dont care about men as a class and often not even men as individuals if only because of what they/we can provide, and in that utilitarian view, men are tools that aren't working, and you don't cherish a tool that doesn't work, you discard it and get a new one, specially when said tool "whines" about wanting rights and whatnot, hence society doesnt has any incentive to help men beyond badgering us into being more usefull or suffer and be obsolet…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/25 03:49 PM
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women dont really decenter men when they can get a quick fuck or multiple dates at the click of an app.
/r/MensRights29/08/25 09:27 PM
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i think that the strategy has been ignoring indiferent men into irrelevance but when states need workers, paytaxers, soldiers etc, then it is a problem, tho aside from that i still disagree heavely with the oppinion this is a winning option for men, cause for each men who "gives up" or becomes aphatetic, there are five going out of their ways to be as usefull and convenient as humanly possible, mostly to women, by apologizing for other mens actions or shit like that, there are ten of those for e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/25 08:40 PM
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i sort of agree with your point but i think this could be used to romanticise men's misery really easily.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/25 08:20 PM
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im not kidding when i say that those people think that men are entitled and want things "above their means" or that society has coddled men so much that men don't know what to do now that women are "equal" to them, something something equality feels like oppression,
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/25 08:15 PM
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and it has a lot to do with how you look, the more masculine you look the more less-threatening you should make yourself (except when you dont) and the less masculine you look the more threatening you should appear so you get taken half-seriously at least, but its a lose/lose situation anyways, as is a standard put on men by society and not by the men themselves, as someone already said here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/25 06:47 PM
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you get what benefits you, like social services, some economic policy and some concerns about your own, like, if you arent white, and leave the rest to rot. you can also not be political at all, which is probably better, if you can afford to.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 03:09 AM
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From what i saw, the old democrats are even more anti-male than young democrat women. thats hard to believe, honestly
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/25 09:38 PM
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in terms of material stuff, as in, the effects of the pollcies, right wing policys and societies are probably worse for men and by a large margin, with the myriad of hierarchies, hate, capitalism materialism, disregard of rights and so on, i dont think that the right being better for men is real argument from members of this group and at best what i have seen is that is seen as the lesser of two evils, and thats from people who probably havent been hit as hard as some of us by the traditional ma…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/25 09:36 PM
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what is even the point of this article or articles like that? will a rapist realize that he is wrong by this? will a non-rapist guy risk his safety and integrity just because women feel like they are owed that? like what is even the point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/25 09:37 PM
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its 50% language, as women and female-coded institutions/social norms decide what's good and normal and what's not in stuff like feelings and emotional expression, but i dont know up until which point a guy could use all the "tools" and "do the work" and maybe have his feelings be tolerated if he doesnt gets out of line, but i dont think thats validating or caring about mens feelings as much as it is about control and disregard until it gets problematic (like when guys die by their own hands and…
/r/MensRights23/08/25 02:14 AM
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i know that people here are very wary of shit like this, in regards to this being a political move to get men as pawns in the game for votes, but as much as i see and share the sentiment that the dems seem one mask away from the #thefutureisfemale #killallmen, isnt the "woke" manhating shit also a mask? like, do those people actually care about anything or are always pandering away to get away with shit? its not a rhetorical question btw but i actually want to know if they are firm with the idpo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/25 09:35 PM
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same with dick size, i think
/r/MensRights18/08/25 10:15 PM
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is this self-hate or pussy worship? both? neither?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/25 10:13 PM
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so the lesser evil to demanding a woman to have an abortion is to force a man to become a workhorse for a child he didn't consent to have? seems like consent to sex is consent to parenthood when it comes to men but not to women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/25 09:19 PM
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im pretty sure those are just normal Christian nationalist views in the US/UK, tho they also happen to be arguments for islamophobia, depending on how racist they feel that day, weird how supposed leftist and feminist becomes the exact same thing they suposedly hate when it comes to men and male issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/25 06:43 PM
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and thats when they dont fully side with the abuser and its all your fault fully....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/25 06:38 PM
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and what if there is an "odd" case of men not needing extensive social circles in some cases? like yeah, it would suck if i had to be the only person for someone who is very clingy or something but many if not all of the men who those articles complain about dont have those social circles because they dont want them or dont think they need them, they kind of do their own thing while women imagine that they are the ones keeping together the guy and worrying neurotically about being a "mankeeper" …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/25 03:05 PM
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Even assuming that men have now gotten away with not following certain roles (which is very questionable) you dont see men today being burdened by expectations that women aren't expected or demanded to fulfil?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/25 03:04 AM
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i think this just shows, with all due respect, that many of you look at the men who could do all the stuff and had all the rights as the only real goal, sometimes even as the only real men, and thats what you compare against, if you look at the results of disempowered men then and now, im not sure if the "catching up" or whatever term you lot use would be quite so accurate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/25 03:02 AM
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and i guess this asumes that women do work because thats the right thing to do or something? or that men who do "make it" work because they are so virtuous? like maybe im tripping but i just dont get their logic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/25 02:59 AM
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There is too fucking much that I wanted to write about your post, but some fucking comments here are whack, and I'm saying this as a big fan of this sub, like really, some people here dont fucking help, sucks that this wont be as heartfelt as i would like, but, and im sorry if this sounds crude, would you have liked to be with those women who treated you like shit or like dirt when you where younger? cause I get the regret of not being "normal", trust me, that's hell of a thing, but at least whe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/25 03:35 AM
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thats crude but way too real, maybe thats a perspective that we all should take into account when mentioning mens rights, be it to women or to society at large
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/25 01:49 AM
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Pakistani people in the UK in general, have a higher ratio of not marrying outside their culture, and when they do, in like 11% of total marriages which are interracial in the pakistani comunity, there is more chances of the couple being a Pakistani man and a white woman than vice versa (8,8 of the couplings are Pakistani man-white woman and 4,4 are Pakistani woman-white man, roughly speaking) But in more general Asian-white couples, Asian women in the U.S. are significantly more likely to marry…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/25 02:30 PM
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its not exactly that as its more about them thinking that they "did the work" so they deserve/demand a man who "does the same" even when all female emotions are validated and coddled,d and the opposite is the case for most men unless made in a performative way. basically what you said but the tool not only has to be useful and optimal but make you feel good as you use it.
/r/MensRights08/08/25 03:03 PM
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i agree that we could do without tearing each other apart as men out of a stupid sense of duty or the "fuck you i got mine" attitude but that shouldnt be conflated with gassing each other up just to gossip behind closed doors that some, if not a lot, female frienships or groups have, we dont need shallow performativity to not be assholes with each other, but i dont think well agree on this so ill leave it at this.
/r/MensRights08/08/25 02:58 PM
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i agree, but that contradicts a little bit your stuff about women being nice to each other and the empathy and compassion stuff, its all about optics and about sharing some common goals but women arent particularly nice to each other just because, its at most a matter of keeping an image, and im not sure if i want random guys to do that even if you can feel good about it, it just seems very performative to me.
/r/MensRights08/08/25 02:50 AM
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and society reinforces that a lot.
/r/MensRights08/08/25 01:58 AM
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i know about the research on in-group bias but its basically self-interst used for backing their group, when they dont have an enemy or cause in common women do tend to fight each other a lot even if they use fake niceness to keep things "right" out of fear of conflict, but when the conflict is on they are ruthless towards each other, and i really mean it.
/r/MensRights08/08/25 01:57 AM
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i agree with you based on my experience with women but at some point, when push comes to shove, women look out for their peers self interest if only because something that benefits a woman benefits the others, but men not only dont tend to have that bias towards other men but would rather throw another guy under the bus for female attention, very few women do that yet it seems a generalized behavior between men,
/r/MensRights08/08/25 01:55 AM
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so i have never seen a woman picking a fight, but if it happened, is whatever and surely they wont get men to fight for them, and if a woman happens to be part of a fight between men its because the men get drunk or stupid and women just happened to be there, or if they do happen to be part of it it doesn't matter because those men arent mild manered so they dont count and werent obligated to fight by women. cool.
/r/MensRights06/08/25 05:07 AM
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What are the problems that actually negatively affect women, just out of curiosity?
/r/MensRights06/08/25 02:45 AM
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im litetally saying the women instigate the shit, and people are telling you otherwise but whatever, if thats what you want to believe, i still think you just aren't in that environment, are very naive or just want to protect women at all cost even from their own actions.
/r/MensRights06/08/25 02:41 AM
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i personally have lived in bad neighborhoods from the UK in southeast London, to Colombia, and have friends and Family living in Romania, none in any "good" part of the cities, and the amount of guys that i have personally seen being gassed up or shamed by women into picking stupid fights with other men, or even go and beat up someone else, with apparently some of them ending up in deaths or in jail is hight, its not common, you are right, but you are really priviliegued if you havent seen idiot…
/r/MensRights05/08/25 06:50 PM
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how popular is this shit tho?
/r/MensRights05/08/25 05:26 PM
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im pretty sure we are not even close to men "realizing" what you said, so much so that im pretty sure we are going to the other direction of taking the stupid conservative ideals for men to be tools but in order to serve more "progressive" and mostly liberal, uses, with the same policing and the same drug adict hits out of "saving" or protecting minorities and/or women. (and i dont think protecting other people is bad, but when it comes to it being a duty or an entitlement , a bear minimum, even…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/25 05:25 PM
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Sure, bro, sucks that your guy isn't well-liked here, but whatever, I still think he is better than the idiots or straight up crooks you lot in the US have in your federal government, tho it seems to me like the same shit in a different flavour, looking from the outside.
/r/MensRights05/08/25 05:14 AM
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Women get pumped and dumped are not truly consensual. I don't like how this makes it sound as if those women are being raped or something, but can you explain what you mean with your comment before I jump to conclusions?
/r/MensRights04/08/25 03:14 PM
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the rhetorical style, the inability to detect and call out women's fault on men's issues, the adherence to the patriarchal theory as an explanation for men's issues, the tiptoeing around the efforts that many feminist have made to divide or straight up end innitiatives for mens and boys rights, and lots of his general talking points use the the same academic language as a lot of the most academically inclined feminist, who arent shy in blaming and denouncing men as the root of any and every prob…
/r/MensRights04/08/25 03:11 PM
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it means that he uses feminist talking points and rhetoric to address male issues while never being too critical of feminism as a whole. it almost seems like he wants to peddle feminism to men by pretending to care about male issues, but i do think that he isn quite so malicious as most on this sub think, tho i don't agree with lots of his points from what i have seen on his talks and podcast appearances.
/r/MensRights04/08/25 03:46 AM
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im really sure there was some social engeniering when it came to religion and sex but im not sure if things would be quite as deregulated as you say now that we dont have religious societies in the west, like, i do know that many attractive men have rosters of women to plought thru and many men who get nothing, but im not quite sure if we are in a "winer takes all" kind of harem era, as it also seems like plenty of women get pumped and dumped and end up as bitter and full of grugdes as men who g…
/r/MensRights04/08/25 03:39 AM
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there is plenty examples where beautiful woman can be seen with what could be called low value men. i dont think thats nearly as common as people think, especially with how people just have biases in favour of women, lots of those couples may very well be matched but the woman can get more enhancements, via makeup or stuff like that.
/r/MensRights04/08/25 03:34 AM
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when trump fuck up even more, the people vote for democrats for a semblance of normality, theyll do nothing at best or pander to their coastal elite voting base and shit on men more, the ticking bombs that Trump left behind explode in their faces and people get fed up and another demagogue populist republican comes up to "fix the economy" and people will eat it up again, rinse and repeat....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/25 03:28 AM
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i dont know about them not seeing men as partners when many if not most women are never lacking in male validation but thats besides the point, i dont know about them being white as much as it is for any woman who wants a ride in the "correct" way of life, as in, if they see the lifestyle and the outcomes as aspirational, if the girlboss super independent look is appealing to them, most women tend to absorb the talking points and follow, it has nothing to do with being a costal elite as much as …
/r/MensRights04/08/25 03:22 AM
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in pragmatism i agree that revees with his feminist flavored points and some democrat/labour politicians making desperate moves in hopes of getting young men to vote for them is at least a hint of consideration that we could use to put real policy and change in america and maybe beyond. but in reality, i just don't feel like listening to these people who obviously don't have men's best interests in mind is dangerous in the long term, and could actually set us back when they feel like they have h…
/r/MensRights04/08/25 03:12 AM
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its cool i dont have to read the ravings of some weird hysterical hag over their personal failures written under a veil of academic language and copes, but whats the solution to it? like yeah, men will be men and women will be women traditionally all of a sudden after all of this fucking up? i dont think so, and im not geting into a training arc only to get a fragment of the validation these women have after having their fun with men they are attracted to, sucks that romance it not going to be i…
/r/MensRights04/08/25 02:58 AM
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i honestly think its weird it hasnt happened yet, with so many books only pandering to women, and very specific women at that, with all the YA novels, the softcore porn and the wish-fulfilment fantasies, i even remember there was some drama about publishing straight-up fanfics from whatpad and ao3 and the like without telling the aurtors and then these people have the gall to blame men for not reading material that is if not made specifically in a way that is not appealing to most men then at le…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/25 02:44 AM
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Define simp in this case fawning over, showering with attention, coddling and/or virtue signalling that favours someone else (women normally) in hopes of being given validation or affect from the ones who are simped over while not being reciprocated, what i had in mind where male feminists who bash other men for validation of women, or behave like "pick mes" for women, even tho that term is as vapid as simp. and yeah, humanity has always been gynocentric; it manifested differently, but the defer…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/25 02:39 AM
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most people already dont ignore women and women's issues, its literally a staple of modern societies to treat women as a "minority" or as vulnerable just because, baby them more and they will take it as the "bare minimum" or just for granted, or would make other guys do the same thing just because. tho i imagine if you want to get away from the he said, she said bullshit that gender discurse on social media is you could try what you were discussing on your post, on an individual level tho, again…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/25 12:56 AM
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i get your point but i can do that for women when the most i have gotten from women has been the most condescending and tone deft thrapyspeak about my experiences that somehow ends up gassing themselves and other women up, one of them even was like, "oh there are many confident, caring and cool women like me out there im sure you'll find them eventually" and even then thats the best case scenario, plenty say that bad experiences with women are "incel fanfiction" or redpill fantasies or something…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/25 10:03 PM
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or there is no problem to be solved because the problem is you (as an individual, as a man etc), or how you treat women or how you dont really like them or....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/25 09:02 PM
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fliping the genders also works but its depressing how it seems to "hit different" when you make your point about a problem that women have or had compared to when it happens to a man, its effective but insulting at the same time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/25 11:06 PM
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on a mental health level, i agree, but realistically, not only we know men of almost any kind would get flamed and cancelled for saying the shit many women say on TikTok and that is assuming they don't have an impact on the real world, some revolutions have been coordinated on social media and the irl environment did change after # MeToo went viral, the internet is a really place and a real place that promotes hate and discrimination should be taken seriously, as it is now.
/r/MensRights31/07/25 11:04 PM
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thanks for writting this, i really appreciate the message and will try to comment about the content of it if i can, but just having people writting peaces like this, specially with all the helplessness that can come from males rights, its a breath of fresh air.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/25 02:29 AM
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lets say it is about fear, i know for a fact that most women validate each other no matter what and that there are many guys who would rather coddle and validate womens fear no matter what if it gets them to feel more manly or just give them validation, so if we dont have many, if any on our "side" to stop the fear-culture, then what can we do? not to be abrasive but it really has been something ive been think about lately and i dont have any ideas about it.
/r/MensRights31/07/25 02:18 AM
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I’m familiar with Title IX processes mainly because someone on Reddit has shared detailed information about them, but since I’m not American, im not that well informed, That said, I think as societies become more atomized and people grow more isolated, online discourse will carry even greater weight—including the increasingly hostile views some women hold about men. This could institutionalise misandry (even if the OP dislikes that term) and push us further toward gynocentrism, if that’s even po…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/25 04:04 PM
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i think the solution to me was to treat politics as a means to an end and not as a social club or a comunity, maybe it is because im not inclined to do that normally, but just focusing in the fact that leftwing policies have the best results for my interests and most material conditions made it way easier to ignore whatever some idiot on social media tries to say.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/25 03:25 PM
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its the male version of the feminist advocates of genocide and killing all men, probably being inflammatory on purpose or having had terrible experiences with women.
/r/MensRights30/07/25 02:49 PM
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i wanted to explain stuff about the burden of proof (and i think that there is a lot of leavarage and advantage on these kind of cases when the accuser is a woman since #metoo became a thing but thats besides the point) but really what i wanted to express in my comment was that the "false accusation" has the same effect even if the guys were found not guilty or if the accusation was made out of spite or malice, the damage is done and their lives wont be the same, the guilt of rape promoted by th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/25 02:36 PM
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hey if you wanna pretend that this is anything like the OJ trial that's a choice, but if that fucking process didnt find the guys guilty of rape, the accusation has the same effects socially and economically compared to a false acusation, their careers and reputations ruined and the stigma and bullshit on social media maybe forever as things stand, it doesnt matter if the accuser was scared, traumatized or was malicious in her accusation, the damage to the guys is done and will remain that way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/25 02:26 PM
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You try reaching out to your male friends and they are absolutely useless, too emotionally repressed to offer the most basic comfort or reassurance sucks that we also have our issues bro, i imagine you are trying to help but idk what are you expecting, i guess you are better than the "fuck you i got mine" guys with "a therapist and a girlfriend" but im not being sarcastic, do you have any options or solutions or can you leave a man to rot in peace if there is nothing else to do?
/r/MensRights30/07/25 02:55 AM
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because I feel like so much of this was self inflicted wounds that we are expected to help treat. Like saving someone who hurt themselves building a bomb meant for you. guys will still be playing doctor, emotional tampon and free therapist if it means a crumb of validation, see female gaze guys or guys written by women, that aint changing, its just becoming more to be asked, they will be calling that emotional inteligence and maybe well have classes for that kind of simping as we had for pickup …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/25 02:44 AM
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legally there are some principles about when the burden of proof changes, and in case of an accusation it has to be proven by the one who is making it, the fault or the crime has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt, or the on the flip side for instance, in the case that a civil case for difamation begins, depending on the economical and moral damage on the reputation of the falsely acused, the accusation could well become false, and an indicative of intent of damaging the falsely accused. and a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/25 02:34 AM
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When a person accuses someone else of robbing them or assaulting them, and there is no proof to substantiate the claim, wouldn't you say the claim is false? and if her accusation is "innocent" whatever that means, if there is no proof to back it up, then how or why should it be taken as true?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/25 07:53 PM
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it cool that they are comming mask off about men not being people but problems waiting to happen (or be put down or resolved) but idk, i think that someone who has been knowing women for ages and has been paying attention to the laws and lack of resources for men can already tell. disappointing but not surprising. also is disgusting that he is treating gangs as "disgrunted young males" as if there werent a myriad of contradictions and reasons why men do that (pro tip: some of those have to do wi…
/r/MensRights29/07/25 03:24 PM
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and the presumption of innocence? if there is reasonable doubt about an acussation that cant be taken as proof of anything, hence is false, thats kind of how it works, you know?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/25 03:20 PM
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disgusting, but at least it doesnt has upvotes, maybe thats something good?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/25 03:19 PM
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yes, and if this is biological (as it seems to be) its even more hopeless, especially with the men who seem to be figthing so much for being "one of the good ones" even if it is at the expense of every other man out there, its like those guys who mocked and emasculated others in from of women for cheap laughts but if you are "feminist" or "progressive" about it you are good.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/25 03:15 PM
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and it probably tickles their egos (and something else)when they get to feel like protectors for the "victims" even when they actually have it worse, kind of astounding really, how a man can have so many times more chances of being homeless or worse and these guys still "protect women" even from their own thoughts or from imaginary men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/25 03:03 PM
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i have seen that a lot unfortunately, and worse, lots of men really seem to like that "not like the other men" or "one of the good ones" category, some even cater their advice and acts towards other men to be more like that and more often than not, show off their good boy badge as a piece of honor, if that makes sense, its really weird and kind of makes me mysandrist sometimes, if im being honest.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/25 04:24 PM
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to be fair a lot of it seems to be legitemate grudges but extrapolated to society and mostly to men and even more to men who have nothing to do with those who hurt them, some even seek men who are unlikely or unwilling to defend themselves and berate and blame as if they were taking vengance but against someone else, its very inmature and very human but also very institutionalized, with men even feeling bad and apologizing for shit they didnt even do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/25 03:37 PM
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So I think it is inaccurate to claim that men in general are more prone to violent behaviour because of biology or evolutionary psychology. Those are very outdated ideas. its more like there was, and exists still in some places and envoirements, a culture of violence in relation to manhood, as it defines how much of a man you are, for how willing or how capable are of using it, and thats without going into the rabbithole of war, be it on gangs, countries, bussiness, religious groups etc, men hav…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/25 03:32 PM
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i also remember hearing some arguments (granted from the purple pill sub which is a shithole) about what would the people there do if they woke up as someone as the other gender, and the amount of women who swore they would be the most fucking fantastical men (as in getting into fights, fucking and taking risks, being a caricature of the men i imagine they are attracted to) was astounding. i mean all of this to say that a lot of women dont even know men, not unlike they way feminists bemoan abou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/25 03:26 PM
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no
/r/MensRights28/07/25 02:39 AM
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it sucks that i have to use an incel argument after some time without mention them but i think that women are confortable seeing just a small number of attractive men who have them on a roaster, and who themselves are on a roaster for a lot of women, while the average guy is told to improve and improve so he is given a chance after she cant get one of those men for herself. and the fact that some women like to be approached, even trusting those numbers you give me, could be just a means to get m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/25 01:39 AM
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im not gonna trust anyone with their oppinions on male sexuality as i have yet to find one that is not patronizing and/or utilitarian, and i find it really hard to believe that you havent even heard feminists, or women in general, being really stupid about men whom they dont like being virgins or undersirable by women in general, its like their go to thing when they run out of logic. the male loneliness epidemic seems to me too complicated and too personal for me to speak about but in the odd ca…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/25 10:42 PM
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yeah, "internalised misogyny" seems like a great way to take away responsibility from women tho at the same time, it takes away their agency, as if those women were poor little victims of the patriarchy, but then by becoming feminists, they become great girlbosses capable of deciding about everything and everyone. women are both weak and strong when it suits them in the same way men are super predators or fumbling idiots when it suits them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/25 10:34 PM
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But they then adopted it and are now the ones ironically more conservative about “judging by the content of character rather than the color of skin.” i agree with your idea about both being bad but when i see poc spewing right wing talking points it seems to me more like a tool to get their ideas across rather than being against racism, not to say candace owens or kanye west or sneako are victims or anything but im not sure they are as accepted as they believe and are more in it for other reason…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/25 10:31 PM
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to play devils advocate most men dont have anyone to rely into after a certain age so most would probably end up homeless, destitute or worse before they get to be victims of that kind of abuse. not that it doesnt happens but the circumstances are different.
/r/MensRights25/07/25 09:36 PM
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nah, aint no way a woman telling a guy he doesn't get women is not flirting of any kind, but if you haven seen it happening im not going to prove you wrong, you could ask guys here to like to debate feminists tho, i think the argument is pretty common for them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/25 09:27 PM
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I can't imagine feminists saying "get no pussy" as an insult. Maybe only their male allies. but they fucking do? all the time you try hard enough, even if you are married with kids i have seen feminists calling men virgin/loser/basement dweller because they know that stings men, even if it could make women look like a prize to be won, be it by good behaviour for them or with pickup bullshit by the redpillers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/25 05:19 PM
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shifted toward the social equality that the Left’s Civil Rights era mandated. i mostly see populism rather than genuine care but yes, at least they arent disgusting to the same voting population they suposedly want to help, at least outwardly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/25 05:02 PM
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i mean, i think its in bad taste to rub the unomployement/underemployement shit as i find myself in a similar situation right now, but when those miserable women are in no way shape or form lacking in company, interest and validation from men, even if desperate or more men, i just can help but feel bad and weird about our gender. Like, those women would never simp/fantasise/make edits for anything less than a top-tier man most of the time but many men are begging the most below-average men in th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/25 05:00 PM
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white women are also, in my experience, the first to give the bootstraps mentallity as "advice" when a man has a problem and even explain racism to a man of colour as if they knew better. one of them repeteadly asked for men to protest their way into being desirable (as if that was a thing) instead of "doing nothing and whining on the internet" in a debate forum about incels and relationships. that while being an attractive and probably afluent white woman living in europe. i dont know if its ra…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/25 04:46 PM
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Obama did that, trying to guilt-trip men into being "man enough to have a female president", or something like that, and now apparently he is talking about men being abandoned by the left, as if that wasnt partially his fault.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/25 04:42 PM
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more Materialist-based society i know too little about Marx but could you elaborate on this? is it about the signifiers of success that men kind of need even when some people say we dont?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/25 03:42 AM
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Imagine if we said the same about, for instance, abortion laws passed, voted and enforced by female legislators and judges or about medical misconduct or bad treatment from female doctors, as if the damage for those things against women wouldn't matter because the perpetrator was also a woman. The argument simply wouldnt work yet they feel entirely too comfortable saying that to men....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/25 11:05 PM
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i kind of agree with you (and gang violence is its own rabbit hole) but my point is that even if this was all "the patriarchys" fault and men apparently also were victims, women and specially feminist who always respond with "by other men" when men are killed show way too much callousness and none of the suposed emphaty they could have at men if we were all victims of the patriarchy as their ideology says. instead it just seems like they want men to put themselves out by their bootstraps from th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/25 05:27 PM
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do you miss the guy as a president or do you miss the point in time in which he was president?
/r/MensRights22/07/25 05:22 PM
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and then they say "but who is killing those men?" as if men killed by other men were less dead or mattered less.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/25 03:24 PM
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so i feel like a prude for saying this but is jerking off to a man crying, or even charitably, touching yourself because of a public moment your partner had, is that supposed to be hot? like a man is supposed to be turned on or be more receptive to crying if women find that arousing or something? like what was the tone of the scenes? was that supposed to be desirable?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/25 06:59 PM
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Well at the start of season two he catches his girlfriend, Keeley, masturbating to a video of him crying publicly. what?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/25 03:25 PM
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to be fair we have guys simping on social media, onlyfans, instagram, twich etc, you name it, and thats without going into the different redpill blackpill things, it just seems quite normal for men to be desperate for female attention, and i dont really count myself out when i say that, but again, we have competitive simping at this point of time, you guys can try and look for "female gaze" guys or guys who want to be "written by women" and youll see how desperate a man can be for women, not a w…
/r/MensRights20/07/25 10:40 PM
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i think you are the one who is being racist and ignorant by saying that shit about men with completely different circumstances and environment than yourself, you dont know anything, and I can't believe you are supposed be the one who knows better compared to the people whom you despise that much. also, assuming that shit about broken families for these young men sounds pretty ignorant and racist to me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/25 08:45 PM
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So your point is invalid now. I never said I was toughest, strongest, best, or even heroic like you like to say I am i dont think i am i just think you are even less of a thought guy than you think. that was my whole point. It's also useful even though it pains me it seems like humble bragging to me, "poor me is so big and strong (unlike other weaker men) and i have to use that to help people, the horror" Meanwhile, your tone says something else, something kind of masturbatory about it, for lack…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/25 04:37 AM
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also you know those right-wing American men who go off about their guns and shooting trespassers and have weird fantasies about defending women from "thugs"? but you fucking know they would shit their pants if something horrible really happened? You come across as some of those guys, but with leftist lingo instead of patriotism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/25 04:15 AM
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I'm putting "dangerous" in quotations because i don't think what you consider dangerous and what i consider dangerous is even similar. I grew up in South America (and not in a safe-ish country or even a safe area) and stayed briefly in South East London, and not a single man who was remotely about violence spoke like you did about "virility" or being so big and strong or fucking violence hierarchies or punching random men for saying shit you dont like or harassing someone you dont know or fighth…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/25 03:53 AM
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i dont really think you are about that life and all the men who even tried to pretend to be what you are tryng to do on my trench or in my whole living area are death, its cool that you like to play pretend hero/cop/leader but you just come across as sheltered, are you american by any chance? or at the very least first worldler? never been in a "dangerous" area before? Or lived in one?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/25 03:10 AM
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and lots of men are also more than comfortable (eager i would say) to date and validate those women, saying that horrible shit of their own gender, but no, these guys are different and surely they mean to say all that demeaning and dehumanising shit about other men....right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/25 03:04 AM
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even playing devils advocate the fact that men and young men at that flocked to a grifter idiot criminal like Tate for a crumb of validation should serve as a fact that feminism failed completly in reaching men, if that was even a goal of the movement in the first place cause it almost seems like they want to drive men away from it instead of to it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/25 03:01 AM
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man are you getting off from policing other men for women's sake?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/25 02:53 AM
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he much-remarked-upon contraction in hiring entry-level programmers and software developers in the US has sharply reversed in recent months. In fact, relative to the pre-generative AI era, early-career coding employment is now tracking ahead of the rest of the economy. is this even real? i know the tech field is full of ups and downs but im really not sure about this one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/25 10:21 PM
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in the US, plenty of older white women voted for Trump on the premise of a "better economy" so thats another country but again, the tactics are different depending on the context, and believing that men should be less susceptible to it is believing in hyperagency for men, as if we weren't all equally susceptible to it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/25 10:17 PM
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For them, i guess, and for lots of women, but the ones in that sub have the honesty to say it
/r/MensRights19/07/25 10:03 PM
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The anti-natalism sub had a similar sentiment about it, it was filled with mysandry last time i checked.
/r/MensRights19/07/25 07:29 PM
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Their latest post is titled "I feel unattracted to my husband who earns less than me" so i dont think that's the sub for men to go.
/r/MensRights19/07/25 07:25 PM
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so which is it, does the female loneliness epidemic not exist or does it exists but its not a big deal? cause in the odd case they do feel lonely i want to know which should i tell them: "no, you arent, women are never alone, female loneliness is a myth" or "yes you are lonely but its your own fault or if it isnt you can try the million ways of self improvement to get out of it an pull yourself out by your bootstraps"
/r/MensRights19/07/25 07:22 PM
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without mentioning the hordes of men begging for validation from these women who hate or despise them.
/r/MensRights19/07/25 07:17 PM
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the tactics are different, in France, lots of women voted for the right and their anti-immigrant politics because of the fear of foreign men, are those women mindless or lacking in agency or is it about the rights tactics?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/25 07:13 PM
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i dont think this is political, seeing how many women still hook up and date random good-looking men regardless of their ideology but you should delete Twitter, maybe delete all social media accounts you dont necesarely need but thats up to you, you really wont find anything useful for solving your problems and the few people who get it will be equally "lost in translation" with so much ragebait and attention seeking behaviour, social media is a lose-lose situation for a man, or at least thats w…
/r/MensRights19/07/25 03:57 AM
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its kind of baked into their ideology at this point, the contradictions are too many but they are still the mainstream so....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/25 10:54 PM
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Feminist narratives are given official sanction by the state. This is always worrying, but hasn't this weird bioessentialist/genocidal view of men, as a problem at best or an almost existential threat at worst been the mainstream of feminism since #metoo or so? its kind of funny how feminist be like "its not real feminism" when they never "clean the house" of the movement from those weirdos and then pretend that men (or anyone else) who criticise or has a problem with feminism is the problem ins…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/25 10:52 PM
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to be fair i also have personal grievances with women that could connect to mens rights, but when a man is doing that he is being an incel so....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/25 10:45 PM
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its kind of weird how they are the ones promoting the hate that they themselves are supposedly fighting against.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/25 02:32 PM
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that makes sense but im not sure i have seen that much backlash from women who recently became middle aged, like older milenials, so i think it has a lot to do with their generation, cause recently i have seen a lot of women kind of going out of their way to call that kind of sexuality empowering and most seem pretty fine with with, tho it could be just my algorithm.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/25 02:29 PM
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to some extent, i would agree with this if older women really stopped getting attention after a certain age but with so many guys into milfs and so many guys just so desperate to get any kind of female attention i dont think that older women have that much to lose, on one hand because the recently aged women fucking hates men, specially young men so they dont want the attention, and also because again, many men are more than willing to bend over backwards for almost any woman who gives them the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/25 02:23 AM
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Sabrina Carpenter is a tool, not even as an insult but she is a means to capitalise in pseudo-feminist girl power pop cause other angles dont quite work out that well, but aside from that i think its weird how being straight, specially a straight man can almost be an insult in some communities, is really weird how we all have to be sensitive and mindfull but when it is a man and a straight one at that is just free real state for being weird, like women can say shit like "oh i wish i was a lesbia…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/25 02:06 AM
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and that male loneliness that you point out also translates into worse treatment for men socially, less or worse support networks for men struggling and less empathy for men in general, so the stakes are higher. especially when men are more at risk of suicide, in which social relationships matter a lot, and in greater risk of becoming homeless, where a lack of support networks and resources hurts those men and boys even more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/25 04:22 PM
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male loneliness doesn't exist (its just incels) and if its exist its mens fault (or patriarchy's fault if they are feeling generous) and if it isnt mens fault, then still men have the responsibility to fix it because women dont owe men shit, but if there is a female loneliness epidemic then it is a social problem and if you dont care/dont wanna fix it you are a mysoginist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/25 02:53 PM
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i have seen a lot of posts about men being completely alone, whereas when women post about their loneliness in a lot of them there is a mention of a boyfriend most of the time and they complain more about not having a group of "besties" to hang out and do stuff, not to say that isnt a problem but being completly isolated and having a social life that lacks some aspects are just not the same thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/25 02:49 PM
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i don't like any of those, and as centrist as it sounds, i think that both miss the point in different ways but the last pharagraph of Fiamengos article really touched something important, at least for me, its something emotional and factual for me that feminist or basically society in genera really thinks about men as a problem to be solved rather than people to be helped or even considered, its always about doing this and that for x or y group, for women, for a nation, for the kids etc but its…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/25 02:39 AM
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i dont think you have enough issues to really speak about,and that's kind of why you can take that detached feminist attitude towards male issues, you can afford to have that ivory tower perspective and "advocate for everyone" while not even pretending to care about the population you are speaking about, or sometimes speaking at, but never trutly conect to because you haven been tru nothing. This is why Democrats don't win in the US bro, cant even pretend to care about men as a voting base much …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/25 11:07 PM
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ot only are there areas where men face much greater threats but also areas where feminism hasn't pushed back patriarchy as far as it has in the west. lets pretend that other people here, even other middle-class white men (and non-white men as i know there are many of us here), havent given you many other reasons why your perspective is wrong and let me ask you before anything else, do you think the way to adress our problems, or anyone elses problems really, is by pushing more feminism? by "push…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/25 10:18 PM
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i dont even know why i bothered to put my comment about my experiences and other men experiences that show how much worse men have had it thru history and how out problems are far more systemic and hard to solve compared to the "put yourself out there, clean up your act and pull yourself out by your bootstraps, you are bothering women with your whining" kind of deal that you people always peddle, you know where you would be better received? with the conservatives, because thats exactly where you…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/25 04:15 PM
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my grandfather in South America could vote (and that was after some rules about having x amount of money to vote were changed, even for men) up until he died out of the violence that happened in our country, in which the identity most likely to die in a shooting was being a poor man, which my grandfather was, doesnt means that my grandma had it better (god knows paying dues to paramilitars just to be alive and raise 4 kids alone in a farm in a rural area wasnt easy) but pretending that many, if …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/25 04:00 PM
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i know he doesn't, he is a fucking grifter and all around scumbag but even his fucking rants about how hard he thinks being a man is (unless you buy his course and do as he says) have said more about how young mens lives are compared to your average feminist, who on paper is all about gender equallity, thats how low the bar is, and instead of wondering how unheard men feel when they latch to that bastard for validation they just get pissy, throw fits about men becoming facist and never wonder if…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/25 11:45 PM
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i desagree heavily with that, at least you can ignore at your own cost the bullshit on our individualist hellscape but on the 50s guys would be workhorses for women half-drugged out of their minds who didnt even desire them all for kids that maybe they didn't wanted to have, and thats if you were lucky. its just a personal oppinion but i wouldnt like to be a man in the 50s.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/25 09:03 PM
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but the bar is so low and the need for voices speaking to and about men is so big that it took a sex trafficker and all-around grifter for people to care about men and men's rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/25 08:59 PM
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im not sure if feminists coming out and saying the quiet part out loud would be that detrimental to them, many of our gender are just itching to serve women so even if they said straight up they dont care about men and are only doing it for themselves many men would still suport them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/25 08:42 PM
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but even the ultramasculine dont win, they are usefull tools and at least get something out of being used, like sex or recognition, but at the end of the day we are all tools, some, like incels, are not usefull enought and get shamed for it, and some like the ultramasculine are super usefull and get all the rewards but at the end of the day that what we as men are, tools for society at best and for women at worst.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/25 08:36 PM
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im pretty sure the reason to not send women to war aside from the capacity to give birth is the "women are wonderful effect" and too much propaganda in nurture and nature about protecting women in general, if it wasn't for that women who cant have kids would be drafted but that's not how it works right? Also obviously, you will go to jail if you dodge the draft, whereas I don't see forced birthing programs anywhere in the world, even the abolition of abortion wouldn't be reaching those extremes,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/25 04:32 PM
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The birth rates are tanking tho? almost all around the world even.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/25 04:23 PM
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hey im all for guys catfishing women by using make-up skillfully but not even most women use it with that much skill, I even think that most use it for social convenience instead of a tool to become someone else, and lots of people that I know who look "ugly" without make up still have good facial structure behind all that, they just have bad skin or stuff but the material they work with is good. like, I'm all for men using make up if they want to but its not magic and that is even assuming that…
/r/MensRights09/07/25 04:12 PM
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Women go insane for men in makeup i dont think thats quite the case outside of alt women or if the man with make up is already good looking. but I do agree with you on the first part, make up accentuates features on both men and women, theoretically it could be useful for both but for different angles, like getting a more "squared" look on men or a "softer" look for women, but I'm not sure if that's the way to go for men.
/r/MensRights08/07/25 02:32 AM
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"No, I'm not attracted to wealth, or status, or good looks. Those are shallow things and I'm not shallow. All I care about is personality and if you're a good person." on the flip side some rub on everyones faces how shallow they are and how empowered they feel by putting "6ft plus or don't talk to me" its all about the performance and the feelings of the thing, not about principles only vibes.
/r/MensRights07/07/25 11:48 PM
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most women find attraction in people they like and trust. do they find attraction in men they like or do they like men who are attractive? cause I dont know about being the ugly funny guy who is with the hot chick cause he makes her laugh, I would rather be alone than be that. They reject them on a level they're not conscious of. its because of that "lack of intrigue" that you were talking about? or is it something else?
/r/MensRights07/07/25 11:42 PM
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Women have too much male validation and thirst, so they get picky about that same attention and raise standards by "demand" even if the demand is artificial and driven by social media and male hornyness, its like those dudes who can afford to fuck 10 women a week and leave after hitting, just that the dude is an average woman with triple digits of guys on her dms and more than 10 guys irl begging to be with her. its insane.
/r/MensRights07/07/25 11:37 PM
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Divorce does happen more and more as we lean into first world values. why do you think that is the case? taking into account what you know about your culture.
/r/MensRights07/07/25 11:29 PM
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Are men really that desperate for women’s attention? yes Did biology really do us that dirty? at least on this yeah Most women prefer to be stay-at-home wives, but don’t expect them to cook or clean for you. They might do it, but they’ll always complain and only do the bare minimum. There is no legal obligation for a wife to do housework anyway. And now, the state is even considering giving stay-at-home wives a salary, paid by the man, not the state. apparently you have to pay for a maid to do t…
/r/MensRights07/07/25 11:26 PM
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i dont like this throwing away the depression thing as if it was the end-all-be-all for men's mental health, cause yeah, therapy and pills are the solution to that, but if depression is a perfectly natural reaction to your envoirement or been your life, and with how little power does the average man has in changing stuff now, I just think this is all a cope, a better cope than dying or becoming an addict, but its a cope nevertheless.
/r/MensRights07/07/25 11:06 PM
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living by example and unrelentingly to show people there are other viable options that exist besides going with the flow or violently lashing out at it. It’s all part of a multipronged effort to change these stigmas from all fronts, we all have our parts to play yes this is it, its just that its based on experience and its a very personal insight for me and for some other people who at least try to live like this so while I understand how it can be taken as the "man up be a man don't care what p…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/25 03:20 PM
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i get that you want some kind of feminism but for men, ignoring the fact that women have always been a protected class and that kind of stuff wouldn't work for men, I think that even before pretending to make some wide-scale change, we have to at least have more men thinking about themselves in ways that are productive to them and not to other people, that's where living a life in the way you want comes, and without using stoicism which I think feeds into these narrative of men having to be rock…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/25 01:51 AM
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i dont want to have anything to do with them and I'm pretty sure plenty of women apparently don't want anything to do with me or men like me either, and Im not saying that "this is about what I get in return and maybe ill see if I do it" but its more like I know this people arent doing anything for me despite asking and asking for stuff and I'm pretty sure by my own experiences that most would take a mile if given an inch, tho I'm pretty sure feminists use the same arguments against men. also I …
/r/MensRights03/07/25 10:11 PM
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i dont make people uncomfortable, i go about my business and just get the judgment, my example was a real situation that men, and men of colour at that, have to deal with and we don't have to go out of our ways for people who dislike us because of who we are, and how are women exactly doing anything to make men feel safer, not even physically but even emotionally, women don't owe us anything and we don't owe them anything, I get that you don't like that, and I get that you don't lose anything by…
/r/MensRights03/07/25 10:01 PM
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i think the existence of prejuice is a problem that each individual has to deal with if they want to get out of it, if a woman is judging me negatively or expecting something else out of me because of the actions of other men or if she is doing the same for the actions of other brown people, or her own imagination of both, how is that my problem or my responsibility to fix?
/r/MensRights03/07/25 05:17 PM
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if i as a brown man get some white women clutching their purses and giving me bad looks when going about my business near their neighbourhoods, don't you think it would be weird of people to make me care and "protect" someone who is afraid of me out of their own prejudices that have nothing to do with me?
/r/MensRights03/07/25 05:07 PM
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i personally think there is some value in resisting, if only passively, the expectations that both sides and society places on men by living how one wants to live without caring about what those other people think, its a very small act of resistance in a world that stiffles self expression in men but at least is something that we all can do, as individualistic as it sounds I think that if enough individual men put their foot down and live how they want society could get the memo, specially if th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/25 05:01 PM
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that would depend on what their goals are, cause you know lots of feminist say they want equality when in reality they just want the patriarchy to be a matriarchy, to that obviously depends on the feminist, and this is assuming most people care about the "gender war" stuff, which seems to be mostly an online thing and just only one of the reasons why people are distrustful of each other and the institutions, it seems to me like the stuff we see about the genders fighting is more of a symptom of …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/25 04:20 AM
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for some reason i came across a video about a page of chatbots that has ai boyfriends and girlfriends and some of the most consistent top results for most used and better created chatbots are ai boyfriend characters from lots of media and even celebrities. so either way more men are gay than we know and are craving for ai boyfriends or plenty of women are also using the chatbots but its not a moral panic because women are always good, I guess.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/25 02:26 AM
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what would you tell to those who betitle or are really against it? especially those in the mental health/AI fields of research
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/25 02:21 AM
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if they cant even pretend to care to further their agendas (as their points are so good and right that men are stupid for not following them) what makes you think they will truly care out of the non-existent goodwill of their hearts? specially for those who are undeserving of their kindness, like any man who isn't agreeing with them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/25 02:19 AM
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man i share some of your experiences and genuinely feel like i could tell you about my bad experiences with women but ironically enough you can imagine how that normally goes on the internet, and especially here on Reddit, my experiences have been called "fanfiction" (I think the exact terms were red-pill fanfiction) and irl it has been hard to a great extent to even know if someone is really caring about what I have to say or just wants to pretend to be more accommodating than they are for othe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/25 02:13 AM
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pay them taxes die in them wars have them kids to repeat the same
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/25 02:00 AM
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thats cool to know, i also know a few who went to med school who either were supported by their partners or at the very least weren't ditched because they weren't "providing" those seem more like the exception rather than the rule tho.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/25 09:52 PM
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im a brown man and would never want to worry about some racist white woman clutching her purse or giving me looks when im minding my business or even calling the cops on me, no matter how much she has suffered from people who look like me. on that same vein I don't want to worry about women giving me looks or being terrified or asking me to make up for shit I didn't even do, be it from the "patriarchy" that let my male relatives die in treanches or in poverty or for some ex or harsssing asshole …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/25 08:37 PM
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no, if you dont conect it to patriarchy or shit like that (you know, the good, approved systemic problems for men that totally don't blame women for anything and if they do they are also victims)
/r/MensRights29/06/25 10:52 PM
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i dont want to have this fucking guy be the ones to defend that point but he is right.
/r/MensRights29/06/25 10:44 PM
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i dont know how to say this and would like to make a larger point about yours but personally when the "we are here for you" parents never transition into the "No one said life would be easy" parents but just keep supporting you and showing you love, or something like that, its equally crippling, as they think their smart child is gonna figure it all out eventually but it just kind of never happens. Hopefully I wasn't being too specific, but yeah that's other part of the coin ig.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/25 02:54 AM
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Imagine this: a 5’8 guy, a 5’11 guy, a 6’3 guy and a 6’1 guy are all at a party. If the tall ones are constantly joking about 5’8’s height in front of the women they are talking to - like obnoxious men always do, for some reason - they pretty much ended his shot at any of the females listening. i dont care if it is a feminist position but guys like these and male feminists/whiteknights are the reason why I sometimes think that we are our own worst enemy as a gender. Guys like these would throw a…
/r/MensRights27/06/25 09:09 PM
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i dont know how weird this experience is but I also had one (older) female therapist who was basically acting like she was my mother or something? like, I'm youngish, on my twenties but have a baby face so I look even younger, but if any gen-z guy wants to try therapy or psychological treatment I also would recommend a male to help you, not because you may have my experience but because most women, specially older ones. don't see to have any clue about men, and younger men at that, they tell you…
/r/MensRights26/06/25 03:44 PM
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me, my brown ass did it, i set this system up to oppress women by putting them in cushy jobs, giving them quotas and grants in higher education while somehow not only making men way more vulnerable to poverty but also making us the scapegoat when some idiot at the top (or years or decades ago) does something awful, because I am that powefull but at the same time worse off than most women, I did that, deadass. or maybe it was my great-grandfather who died in a shooting in a war in south America, …
/r/MensRights26/06/25 02:23 AM
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Dying in all past wars until now and probably in the future plus having way more risk of homelessness, suicide, and accidents in the workplace is better?
/r/MensRights25/06/25 10:55 PM
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some do when they have boys apparently but i think it has a lot to do with how much heat or disagreement they can get by expressing their opinions, as in, if it is beneficial to be on men's side they would be on men's side, but when it isn't (as it is most of the time in most contexts) the don't do anything.
/r/MensRights25/06/25 10:22 PM
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He also added that he could have been an anti-feminist like all of us but he made a choice not too and hoped we all maybe will learn to love women someday. aside from sounding creepily indoctrinated, like some radical religious person, these people really think that approval for women is what makes men human to a large extent and if you arent then you have to be a monster or a mysgynyst like andrew tate and whatnot, not my place to say it but I think this just creates more incels. Which this guy…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/25 07:12 PM
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Then let me play devil's advocate, how much of this is our own gender's fault? i know that we have social and biological (even economic) biases in favour of women, but how much of this would be less tolerated if men, didn't even responded "fire with fire" as in mysandry with misogyny, but if men simply stoped engaging with women who shit talk men or said that they don't think its good to do that? because I see a lot of guys apologizing for shit they didn't even do (or shit their ancestors did if…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/25 05:28 PM
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kiwifarms (a harassment forum basically) has an entire aisle about virtual youtubers (or Vtubers for short) who are basically female streamers on anime girl avatars who have a mostly male audience, lots who are parasocial or have some amount of desire for them, and lots and lots of comments discussing their private lives and scandals or hidden opinions or tweets seem to be headed by women, like one of them literally wrote in one of the forums that the only good thing about them was that they wer…
/r/MensRights25/06/25 04:34 PM
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im not sure if this is precisely about men's right,s but it would make for a good topic of discussion, tho I'm not sure of younger women are feeling nearly as thrilled by what this lady seems to want, and I'm pretty sure she only misses the validation and the monkeydance of the male gender roles instead of men in general, its overly clinical but it seems like she misses what men used to show her and give her instead of anything else about our wellbeing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/25 11:17 PM
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"these are the guys you want to go to war with" says the lady who is not going to war but is gleefully sending her "lessers" to it, and do you think she will fulfill her "natural" duty after lots of men die and she will have to get birth (being her most valuable trait as a female by her own views) probably not right? I want this person to be a tradcon pretending to be a woman pretending to be a tradcon or some equally stupid convoluted shit cause I don't want to believe even a minority of women …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/25 11:00 PM
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i dont want women manipulating little boys into becoming simps (emotionally intelligent men was the term that I saw used in one video about a woman teaching her boy about doing pedicures for women or something like that on tiktok) and in that same vein I don't want men to be teaching little girls about "how to tread a man/husband right" its not that I disagree with your sentiment about toxic women but I think that people like that don't turn up like that because they don't know how to respect ot…
/r/MensRights19/06/25 04:06 AM
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the word entitlement was repeated like 15 times all around that post, that should tell you enough.
/r/MensRights19/06/25 02:22 AM
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children grow up and decide, with more or less traumatism, and that's what I think should be the case, surely we need less expectations put on all people, but at the same time there are a lot of people who enjoy the binary, have always done that and maybe will forever enjoy it, and as long as they arent forcing anyone else to go according thru it then that's fine. but I assume you see it like religion? like some people get absolutely ruined by growing into a religious household and get traumatiz…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/25 11:45 PM
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are they spinless or are they malicious? cause it would be one thing if they where scared of losing popular support if they handed women badly but if they simply didn't cared about men or had plans to use men to get ahead in their goals then that's more worrying, and more likely if you ask me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/25 11:37 PM
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i dont like how often these discussions go from "liberating" men to just impose a worldview not unlike the one some tradcon would put into a man but in the other way around, they see men expressing themselves in ways they consider "feminine" and throw more slurs and insults as if they felt the need to "dad" other guys about their lives while some of you people see men expressing in ways you deem "restricting" or even "toxicaly masculine" or "Patriarchal" and think you know better about their com…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/25 04:10 PM
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That if somehow WW3 breaks out and human population dwindles, the people born males will then be viewed as lesser and disposable and it will be justified just because the species might face extinction? yes, that will be the reason, not even from society but even from bonafide girlboss feminist, that will be used to throw men at the meatgrinder, and no, women wont be "forced to conceive" if we "needed" more population in the same way men would totally be thrown to die if we have a "suplus" (real …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/25 03:56 PM
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thats cool, i guess you lot won't complain if you happen to be a victim of a violent crime if the perpetrator is another woman, right? and men are being targeted because they are men, because violence against a man doesn't matter, as you show with your comment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/25 05:14 PM
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but isnt it justified when so many men are so willing to go out of their ways to try and compete for these "queens"? I'm not saying they are right but if I had lots of women on my dms and thirsting for me just for existing and could have so much desire that It could be monetizable then I guess I could also be that braindead.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/25 02:49 PM
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im pretty sure the top comments are still celebrating or making stupid jokes/puns/self-deprecating jokes about it, tho its cool there is some pushback to it.
/r/MensRights13/06/25 10:45 PM
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and this, from his own site and research publications: https://aibm.org/research/will-college-educated-women-find-someone-to-marry/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/25 10:57 PM
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agree no one is going to do it for us, disagree in the part about all of it being on us when compared to how society is with women and women's issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/25 10:56 PM
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other men putting each other down with feminist lingo/therapy speak for a crumb of female validation
/r/MensRights11/06/25 02:29 AM
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its apparently for the same reason why women were called hysteric a long time ago when they were going thru shit, then there was a reivindication of female expression of emotions, psychology kind of took it up from there and with many if not most psychologist being women and their earliest patients being also women the emotional expression and its rules were dictated by them. i also think that is a good reason why more men should be more interested in psychology, If only to not let people who do…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/25 02:25 AM
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and a man who isnt respected is not a man, he isn't a woman either, he is nothing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/25 04:38 AM
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or of they arent expressed "the right way" as women apparently do
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/25 04:36 AM
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nah doing some shitting on the manosphere is good sports now but pretending that women don't get public policy almost catered to their feelings while most governments don't even have offices of men's issues despite always having one for women points to systemic issues, not just your average capitalist individualism but something gendered about the problem and we can see this with the difference in suicide rates and stuff like that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/25 04:35 AM
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i genuily dont think anything can be done if we have reached this level of normalised hate, its like being male is a disease that they have to purge out of the gene pool and the system on top of being disgustingly obnoxious and girlboss/pop feminist about it, its like they are declaring almost genocidal takes with the same smile they talk about "emotionally intelligent"men or "babygirs" on tiktok or some stupid new trend. The nonchalance is really what makes it worse and I don't even know what t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/25 01:22 AM
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it seems like there is a general loneliness epidemic (and I'm pretty sure old people are suffering the most for it, specially old women as they tend to outlive their husbands and don't see a lot of feminist talking about that) but its cool to know what I should respond with in the very odd case some woman gets to complain about loneliness, cause obviously they cant expect any kind of compassion or understanding for their problems from the very people they are the most unwilling to give them back…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/25 03:01 PM
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and lots if not most of us in those circles are also not white, so there is also that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/25 05:08 PM
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As a gen Z HS teacher I only have one year of experience but what I’ve noticed is that a lot of the boys in my class have been tricked by the manosphere into thinking traditional education is not necessary for success. (Think: F students are inventors joke) A lot of them are also so behind that by the time they make it to high school and realize they need to graduate, they’re not willing to put in the large amount of effort required to catch up. They also have become so misogynistic that they re…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/25 07:56 PM
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I assume it's mostly younger and immature women forming an echo chamber, no? im pretty sure you can see the same sentiment in subs about women dating in their 30s or older, men who don't get women "arent entitled to a girlfriend" and need any and every self-improvement the specific woman feels like choosing but men who do way worse things than being unnatractive or awkward apparently are entitled to them? cause unless they are lying about their bad experiences with exes women do tend to date rea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/25 02:43 PM
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its a way to get votes from women sacrificing men who will never reach that level of power and wealth. i would say its a manipulation tactic but women have to know how unfortunate the lowest strata men live, they just don't care or pretend that its justified because patriarchy or some sht.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/25 06:34 PM
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i wonder if chanels like this would debunk the "divine feminine energy" and other pseudo spiritual bullshit that some women use to spout mysandry, probably not as men bad women good...
/r/MensRights29/05/25 03:40 PM
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you are doing what you blame others of doing, you are ordering people to live the way you want, different people want different things, and as long as you don't order anyone to live like you it should be fine, maybe being labeless for someone feels as opresive as you feel living with a label, again, different people want different things, you don't get to decide for them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/25 03:11 PM
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yes, but the category is useful for other men, doesn't means it has to be good for all of us, but it has its place, not as a tool of oppression or convenience for others, but for the individual
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/25 03:04 PM
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i am doing that and im also a man, not necessarily what society would consider a man, but a man still and I'm very different from a woman or someone feminine, doesn't mean that others have to be like me, but it is what I choose.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/25 02:58 PM
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simply because i dont agree/identify with a lot of things that feminine people say or do, its not a matter of rules or categories but of perception, of identity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/25 02:45 PM
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Yeah, but its also not your simple ol projection, it's also about female sexuality being empowering and our,,e while male sexuality and more importantly male sexuality for the sake of men, is a taint to the purity, as if catering to men was denigrating, but men catering to women is not even a right, but an entitlement, and entitlement that many men are willing to go above and beyond to fulfil.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/25 10:08 PM
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respect yourself and see how women act around other men, in general, it can tell you a lot.
/r/MensRights26/05/25 05:06 PM
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i agree with your critic about what masculinity means to society, so gender roles, but I am different from women, or people who are feminine and I want to keep it that way, if that makes sense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/25 04:49 PM
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male indiference from men who are desirable is bad, male indifference from men who are unattractive is the bare minimum to not be seen as a potential creep and whatnot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/25 04:02 PM
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But what's going to happen if this continues is that poly women, dommes, promiscuous women, etc. are all going to end up standing in a desert of their own creation. Shouting into the void advertising for the very same men they've scared away, because they made it not OK to actually be the kind of man they claim to want as a partner. i agree but i want to be more crude, if men are so desperate to pay for having the great pleasure and privilege of even interacting with these "queens", wouldn't the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/25 03:54 PM
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Men who apparently happen to be the most "judgmental" or have the strongest opinions about how or with whom women have sex tend to be conservatives or misogynists (if that word means anything anymore) so I was wondering if you don't care if women think you are like that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/25 06:52 PM
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the requirements for men are more often than not biological when women have means to get goods and money tho, like height, frame, face and stuff like that, don't know how that would match on your theory tho
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/25 04:53 PM
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maybe being see as a man who "slutshames" could be seen as you being conservative who wants to control women's sexuality or something like that? just to play devils advocate
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/25 04:49 PM
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so sluts are "giving it away" too cheaply and devaluing the sexual value of other women? and That's another reason why feminists reject "slut shaming" - they see that men don't reward this behavior in the long run. what does this mean?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/25 04:41 PM
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and in the very odd case that, i dont know, men got less horny and got tired of simping and most women didn't get attention just because, how would they react? most feminist would say women would be happier, assuming the attention is unwanted or negative but I have seen women who "miss being catcalled" because as it turns out, some do like getting validation, and I dont know if this is offtopic from the post but I would like to know how you lot think women would react if they had to live the liv…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/25 04:28 PM
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on the flip side i have also seen lots of people, especially women, "diagnosing" men to dismiss their problems: -you don't know how to flirt with women? autism, it can't be that our environments don't support the building of that kind of social skills, but it has to be something that you "get" and if you don't, you have a disorder. -The boys are too loud or rough at school? ADHD, they should take medicines and behave as girls do, or then they are being topically masculine and shit. -men are k*ll…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/25 04:08 PM
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the article was almost close to making a point when it said that it wasn't that young men were going far right as much as it was women going far left, and how men had systemic issues, but no, its always about women, and how women have it worse despite having a very dominant ideology making policy almost to their whims (like when they tried that night curtfew for men in the UK to "protect women")
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/25 03:54 PM
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i dont even frequent this place because a lot of posts don't concern me or interest me but not even I would apologize or talk for other people and play defense from someone who apparently doesnt even cares to look deeper
/r/MensRights19/05/25 05:08 PM
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and are we pretending that women are not attracted to "patriarchs" or men who succeed on this "patriarchy"? Or that society (in which women are a big part of and have lots of power as 50% of the people in it) doesn't values men based on achievements that signal that a man is "a real man" and again, succeeds on his gender role?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/25 10:50 PM
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i agree that some posts here arent it but the fact that you fall back to feminism to criticize this sub makes me distrust what you say.
/r/MensRights16/05/25 11:16 PM
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/r/MensRights16/05/25 10:34 PM
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women are seen as better comunicators because society cares about them, so much so that they get to control the language of how everyone should speak about their struggles, as it is presented here, and while I do think psychology as a lot of validity as a science and a discipline , it just falls short in addressing struggles outside of their expertise, as it is with men's struggles.
/r/MensRights16/05/25 10:26 PM
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i mean, autism for women is not that detrimental when it comes to dating as they are not expected to carry almost any social interaction on their backs so I think they just make excuses for not dating autistic men when they can just date a neurotypical man and be done with that, the opposite doesn't happens tho as autistic men struggle inmnensly more with dating due to the male gender role in it which requires way too much for someone with a social disability.
/r/MensRights16/05/25 10:21 PM
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i gues the hurdle would be to have people realise it would be a right instead of an excuse to be a deadbeat but that would assume people even care about fathers rights which is a huge hurdle.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/25 07:27 PM
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some of it is because they feat losing female approval, some of it is because of the "fuck you I got mine" attitude that some people have, its sometimes like racism in a sense, lots of people don't believe is true unless it impacts them
/r/MensRights10/05/25 09:34 PM
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im not sure if you are defending categories as a concept or the concept of masculinity, those are completely different arguments and I think you and the person you responded to are talking about two different things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/25 04:07 PM
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to be fair i have to imagine that it comes from women who have so much male attention and validation that it goes beyond being worthless into being negative, and I honestly don't know how much of that problem is the fault of out gender, as in, all of those guys going out of their ways to catter and simp for any and every woman, I really wonder how those women would feel if they live thru the lives of average or below average men, I would pay to watch that honestly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/25 02:28 AM
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what will the poor darlings do when there arent better men to date and fuck with? date down? Those queens? never, they only want "economically attractive men" or they want nothing and they will write articles about it blaming men for an environment that they benefit from, tho in all seriousness its tragic that their first instinct is to blame men for having issues instead of even wondering if there is something they could do to help or if they have any responsibility about it, like men are alway…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/25 08:56 PM
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contrapoints had really solid points on her videos about incels and men (with that same tittle for both) but I think because she was seen after that as a "de-radicalizer" of young men, and there were even publications about it, she felt that it was her problem and went on to say some questionable shit, like in her video about hunger or jk rolling? she had some points about conservative women being like that because of male influence and not because they are bad people with questionable beliefs
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/25 02:31 PM
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it has like 8 stars in Rotten Tomatoes and something like 50% of people liking it in google reviews, both are too hight for that shitshow.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/25 03:13 PM
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why would marriage statistic be an indicative of anyhting, let alone success in dating? one gender isn't having nearly as much sex as the other, less lifetime partners and so on, and that is not women, if those men who weren't picked get settled for after marriage do you consider that a success?
/r/MensRights27/04/25 09:15 PM
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More men could still be incels if more of the women who are NOT married are either A- still sexually active its pretty much this
/r/MensRights27/04/25 09:11 PM
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i mean, taking pshycology classes or therapy and whatnot just to be taken seriously is wild when women can dump their entire days on their stoic male partners or cry about something collectively and that will be made into public policy. The mismatch in attention couldn't be bigger.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/25 11:39 PM
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i mean its good to know that they dont really care to even hear it so that's that, grim but not surprising.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/25 07:34 PM
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your last pharagraph explains a lot, its like people think that male issues (if they even exist) are just one step away, one therapy session away from being resolved, and while I don't know if guys here would agree with me or not, I think that therapy as a discipline takes a lot of the female socialization process and tries to put everyone in it, or to put it in another way, given that so many therapist and clients are women, there isn't a lot of spaces and treatment for men and our issues speci…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/25 02:55 PM
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masculinity is a set of immutable properties that deal on logic, physicality, practicality, and subtlety in emotion i dont know about this one, chief.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/25 02:52 PM
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just a really weird thing and im kind of surprised that it didn't received worse critiques, it also wasn't exactly lauded like "adolescence" which shows the zeitgeist is not so doomed as to promote this but yeah, its just dumb, kind of insane that it was even made and the book was adapted but not surprising.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/25 11:29 PM
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the guy is an idiot at best and a criminal at worst but isn't he genuinely interesting as a symbol? isn't it interesting that guys, specially young boys, think (or know) that they need to be like him to be a man? isn't it interesting to discuss how some discourses fall while his has some success even with all (or maybe because) of the hate? like yeah, its cool that women and so many other groups of people just say, jucky mysoginists with juscyer fans, and maybe have a moment to imagine some viol…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/25 04:26 PM
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i do think that people are more willing to listen to women when it comes to gender stuff so calling our misinformation would be more useful coming from your side, but when it comes to solutions, I honestly have my doubts about women in general having my best interests in mind, lots think they know better about our problems and give solutions about what they think we need and not what we actually need.
/r/MensRights24/04/25 02:59 PM
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i do appreciate the "you can't negotiate attraction disclaimer" and the hamstering thing, I think that women also tend to do that for guys who attract them physically tho I guess the sid guy was so smooth that women also "hamstered" his looks away because he made them feel good? i don't know if I would like to be like him but I don't even know why I'm writing all this when Im not interested in relationships. regardless I hope more guys see this and discuss it but regardless, it seems way better …
/r/MensRights24/04/25 02:45 PM
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As long as your face doesn't look like half-eaten roadkill left on the side of the road, you don't need to concern yourself too much with "looksmaxing". i think that women's requirements on looks are more than just "don't be deformed", you wont be getting any farther if she is not physically attracted to you, and shit like being shorter than the average man could be a roadblock for you but I guess the guide is mostly for the social side of things, from what you say, again, I don't have any busin…
/r/MensRights24/04/25 02:05 PM
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i dont have any eggs on this basket but does this accounts for bad looks or is it just as general as you can get?
/r/MensRights24/04/25 01:25 AM
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we would have to define what "gender war means" but I don't want to pull out a Peterson and just say that feminists kind of won at the end of the day? i think their ideology is declining as they defined equality as whatever they wanted and lots got tired of that, but just the fact that criticism of feminism is not mainstream, most of the time is frowned upon at best, should tell you how much power they have.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/25 11:28 PM
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women are not that confortable sharing a man, specially in the long term, if given the choice they want them for themselves but as there arent enough "chads" to go around they go for the second best and so on, and even taking into account hook-up culture, most women are sharing those "unknowingly" not because they are too dumb to realize those guys have a roster of women like them or hotter, but because they don't want to know about the others a sort of "out of mind, out of sight" thing. so, it …
/r/MensRights23/04/25 02:14 AM
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its more about pacyfyng men who they see as a problem rather than changing conditions that lead to the problem in the first place, if there is even one, with modern dating. its cool that they are making all this based on a fucking netflix show tho, I fucking hate propaganda when it comes to natiolism and conscription and shit like that but I guess no person is immune to it, from any side of the political spectrum, its literally making public policy based on a fucking work of fiction, hope the UK…
/r/MensRights23/04/25 02:08 AM
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you know how some people make fun of "republican white men ranting on their trucks" this is the female equivalent of that, and her audience eats it up.
/r/MensRights21/04/25 03:44 AM
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sucks to know that most women also operate like you but if you are functioning on the basis of your instincts and expect the man to be like that, so be the stoic leader that the female monkey brain wants, then you know that the male monkey brain will also wants someone who is submissive and nurturing and stuff like that right? are you willing to live like that? as "traditionally" as it could be?
/r/MensRights15/04/25 02:39 AM
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i recomend r/TheTinMen if you want some hard data and useful information about men's rights but I don't know how honest people are engaging when they come here so, ill leave it at that.
/r/MensRights15/04/25 02:29 AM
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a big reason is also poverty and guess who makes most of the homeless population? men.
/r/MensRights10/04/25 03:21 PM
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i personally follow cole hashtings on youtube but i think that lately he has been more about asking questions than giving answers about gender and lots of other modern topics, still about self-improvement and still very recommended, but very white so that's that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/25 03:18 PM
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i would argue that its more than "a bit of hard work" but at the very least it's not impossible unless you are like, noticeably shorter than most women, and its also heavily dependent on your location, as for instance in the Netherlands apparently most women are 5,7 but in Mexico they should be something like 5,4 so there is that.
/r/MensRights09/04/25 03:22 PM
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bro i hate jordan peterson as an intelectual and lots of his takes are weird, i will repeat, as i did in another post about the guy, that i cant hate simply because he really cares about men suffering and as stupid as it sounds, the fact that he cried because of it has to be something that really gets me, doesnt mean that i will be following his ideas, but again, no one cares about men, the fact that he cares makes him many more times better than any leftist alternative, if there is even one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/25 06:59 PM
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its weird how people were so up and arms about the "dady knows best" paternalistic machism suposedly so prevalent in men who grew up in the 50s but were never against this kind of movement from women who apparently knew better than any men about how to live their lives. (more so when the women were afluent, for them working class men werent people to be helped they were a threat to be controlled or a problem to be dealt with). and while we do have a lot of oppinions about men impossing themselve…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/25 06:45 PM
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most men also couldnt vote until the conscriptions for the wars made a need to give the cannon fodder some rights in exchange for forced mobilization, as most people who could vote and had the power were people who had a certain amount of money and goods, who yes, where men, rich men to be exact, the same rich men who are in the government, the same rich men who cut the funding for the only suicide hotline exclusive for men despite men making the most victims of suicide, the same men are making …
/r/MensRights06/04/25 07:39 PM
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some people say that women are sharing men (mostly without knowing due to dating apps and situationships) , others point out that women marry and date slightly upwards in age (and in many other metrics) hence that would create an imbalance in more young men being single compared to young women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 07:33 PM
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more young men than young women reported being lonely tho, and I think it was based on a Pew Research article even.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 07:31 PM
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also leaving aside rates from mental illness, suicide is arguably the biggest indicator of something going wrong with people, and with men making up a large part of the suicides I imagine that a big part of that has to be loneliness and/or social isolation, which by that logic should apply more to men as victims of this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 07:29 PM
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policies in the uk are like that because the government only cares about women, again men cant be raped under some definitions of the law there, and This difference is crucial. Women fear stranger danger not because it’s statistically more common, but because the impact of even a small risk, paired with sexual violence and gender-based intimidation, is massive. The stats support this: you already said that, the stranger danger kind of situation that women seem to fear so much, and the UK is so w…
/r/MensRights05/04/25 04:59 PM
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also again on rates of violence https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/homicideinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2024#:~:text=However%2C%20there%20continued%20to%20be,(from%20173%20to%20156)) men are more likely to be victims of violence compared to women, especially violence on the streets or the like, so violence from a stanger as women fear so much , even if by other men, and men are also more likely to be in circumstances that force people to get into cri…
/r/MensRights05/04/25 04:32 PM
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its a matter of fear, cause the posts, in a fucking men's right forum, so of course its "propagating men", the posts was about women's fear of strangers, specially strangers victimizing them, which is very much not the case, and its also very much not the case that women are literally dying out there, that's a male thing, and yes, by other men, poor men most likely, but men still if that was your "gotcha". and maybe you should be crying about women being victimized by their partners somewhere el…
/r/MensRights05/04/25 04:24 PM
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women are way less likely to be victims of violence tho and by far, even with sexual violence they are more likely to be victims by men they know, not some creepy stranger on the streets as lots seem to believe.
/r/MensRights05/04/25 03:46 PM
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yeah, most likely but i have seen it more on men who grew up afluent or at least not poor, plenty of men who lived in trenches know they have be wary and locked it when they are outside, specially at night.
/r/MensRights05/04/25 03:41 PM
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1-i dont know about the stereotypes as some people do like being "stereotypical" as weird as it sounds, it brings comfort for some people to have their identity that clear, tho yes, I agree that generalizing men is bad. 2-the criminalization of men, especially men of colour is a story as old as time and I'm not sure if language is as important as culture, but yes, I guess its a step forward. 3-aside from the non-physical threats women also often get physical and its, if that makes sense, harder …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/25 09:30 PM
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you have to be objective about your situation and have more than one point of view plus experiences totrulyly know if it is "over" for you, if it isn't you can change stuff and hopefully get out of it, and if not there is more stuff to live for aside from romance and sex, even tho its hard to believe if you are in a bad place mentally, still I have to say it again, be objective about your situation, you cant be trusting yourself in some stuff as we all have biases and if yours is towards negativ…
/r/MensRights04/04/25 02:52 PM
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i would be more interested to know whats your goal for this, or more like, what end result would you want after your efforts, as in, what kind of life are you expecting for the men and boys you would theoretically be helping with your efforts, and I'm sorry to say it but I ask mostly because I don't trust most feminist or even most women when they say they have men's best interests in mind, more often than not they are after what they think men need or what they as women want for men, not what m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/25 02:46 PM
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i think its whack how many of you here idealize "non-western" women, and that's also assuming that you like what some conservative women ask, which is a whole separate thing. as if the Western woman mindset wasn't spreading to all around the world....
/r/MensRights04/04/25 03:22 AM
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and up until which point arent those "toxic" behaviors rewarded by society and especially by women? like, we wouldn't have men who are so "toxically masculine" at the top if lots of people from the whole population (so men and women) didn't voted for them, and at the same time, there are studies that point that narcissism is correlated with mating success sooo....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/25 03:16 AM
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no, its a problem when/if it affects women, same as war and to some extent suicides, if it happens to people they have no concern about, it basically doesn't exist or if the problem exist its their own fault.
/r/MensRights03/04/25 04:28 PM
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arent women more at risk of being harmed by men that they know than some random lonely man? like by definition those men wouldn't be having contact with women even if they want to, that's part of what loneliness is, right? tho I do agree that women shouldn't play savior for men, they just don't know how it is and seem to want to have more interest in making those men do what they want instead of what those men could want and maybe need, but I think that also goes vice-versa, I wouldn't want to g…
/r/MensRights03/04/25 04:26 PM
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i think those men DO get validation, as tools for feminism and as dogs to unleash when they can, its also kind of why some men come here or to the MRA sub to talk and be "men helping other men" when in reality they just want the "problem" (that are men) to take care on its own, assuming that women wont be imaginary violented by some weird bogeyman that is simultaneously too dumb to take care of its own problems but too dangerous and cunning to be left alone, that's kind of how some female and ma…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/25 02:55 PM
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and i hope it stays that way
/r/MensRights02/04/25 07:51 PM
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it is being advertised as a "resource for teachers, parents and carers to 'help navigate conversations' around the series" its not the fact that they are using it, there are a lot of arguments and reasons why they wont do that but: https://x.com/NetflixUK/status/1906704955051802788 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14527891/Schools-boys-anti-misogyny-lessons-stop-toxic-masculinity-Netflix-Adolescence.html https://tribune.com.pk/story/2536330/netflix-drama-adolescence-prompts-anti-misogyny…
/r/MensRights02/04/25 06:54 PM
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i agree with what you said and will give gone girl or misery a watch, and yes, you get what I'm talking about, Baby Reiner is no documentary, its entertainment, and its structure and characters show that fact, it would be weird to use the show as a way of showing problems about women stalking men, how gender roles protect women in never being seen as predators even when they are or how law enforcement just doesn't work in cases like that, it does shows some of that but its entertaining not refle…
/r/MensRights02/04/25 05:23 PM
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the problems begin when you are noticeably shorter than other men, and when you are shorter than woman its where you have to compensate the hell out of it, or at least that's what some studies suggest, tho I think they were based on dating apps success which is a whole thing. still you will find that shorter men have harder time dating and taller will have it easier, 5,9 should be a good cutoff for not worrying about height, but it is a standard that we as men are measured by, and its kind of li…
/r/MensRights02/04/25 03:37 PM
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isnt baby reindeer really mild with blaming or criminalizing the female stalker? cause I know that adolescence doesn't shys away from treating the main character like the monster they portray in school shootings cases.
/r/MensRights02/04/25 03:30 PM
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your comment made it seem as if people were innately or biologically against men crying, the study that I linked says that it has to do a lot with socialization and belief in gender roles instead of something "of the human race", so I disagree with you on that. if you have studies about proving that "human beings are biologically repelled by the sight of men crying" instead of it being a product of most societies, then I would like to read them,
/r/MensRights02/04/25 03:04 PM
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i was tryng to out into words the difficulties of being the one who has to "succeed" and model their behavior to approach and all that when compared to the more pasive role of women on dating but whatever, lets not go into that, ill just say that if I said a lot of vibey things you had to do or be at the cost of not being able to date, you would get a little bit emotional about it. do you think there is a standard of beauty and behaviour that makes women attractive to men, like men liking women …
/r/MensRights02/04/25 03:57 AM
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so i agree with your first point, and i forgot about his sketchy behaviour with women, ill keep it it mind. and I'm not defending vaush, I don't even watch his stuff as I don't like the streamers format anymore and I'm more of a videoessays guy, adding to the fact that a lot of the topics that they touch on are not up my alley, I think he is an idiot, more now than before, but I'm still not thinking that he is necessarily being malicious as a mastermind as much as he is being malicious out of st…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/25 03:02 AM
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i mean, the fact that you just sem to like a vibe, that you cant even put into words (no shame in that but its how you sound) kind of shows how women expect, or even demand stuff that they themselves not know what is, but somehow we are supposed to not only know but perform readily, and that is without going to the fact that a guy who has that "vibe" whatever you mean by it, also has to be traditionally masculine when you women never have to be like that, and that is even assuming that the guy i…
/r/MensRights02/04/25 02:33 AM
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im not sure if they are a source of crime any more than any form of media and entertainment but very few crimes have been perpetuated by people explicitly into incel ideology, even less by wider "manosphere" ideology, and most knife attacks seem to be towards and from men or boys, and poor and minority boys at that. still if you have the opinion that the show is doing something good for the UK, or even for the world then I think I'm not gonna change your mind on that, I don't know if it could ma…
/r/MensRights02/04/25 02:13 AM
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6795704/ Given this socialization, perhaps unsurprisingly, differences in shame felt when crying have been found, with men reporting greater shame than women across the countries studied (Becht and Vingerhoets, 2002). However, this effect was small, and indeed, gender differences, particularly regarding mood and emotion ratings of crying across some of crying research have shown small or no effects (e.g., Williams, 1982; Lombardo et al., 1983; Peter et al…
/r/MensRights01/04/25 04:10 PM
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Maybe not individually, as some have partners, family, friends, and/or colleagues who appreciate men as people, but socially? yeah, men are tools for providing protecting and leading as much as women were tools to nurture and procreate kids, like, why do men have to die in wars while women leave the countries? or why do people on the media care about crisis and issues of men when we arent buying houses or consumer goods or are "economically unnatractive" to women who cant date down economically?
/r/MensRights01/04/25 03:57 PM
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and that's without going into what happens with those schizophrenic opinions about violence when you lack what makes a man "manly" when you get the shitty parts of being "a threat" without the good parts of maybe actually being one when you need to be (because good knows lots of short, scrawny, autistic, ethnic kids would have liked to lash out in cases of bullying), and on top of that you get blamed and share the consequences of whatever other men who are most likely in better position than you…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 01:12 AM
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there are studies about bullies on average having more success in real life than their bullied counterparts, be it in the workplace or in dating, that "masculine aggression" is rewarded to a certain extent in lots of scenarios, and the inability to be like that is heavenly penalized.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 12:55 AM
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great point, this should be higher up
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 12:52 AM
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this is not something maquiavellian or mastermind-like, the guy is kind of being pragmatic in a way, kind of talking about different things, as someone with interests in the left, ideologically and politically, he wants and kind of needs to reach to a wider voting block, men, especially Latinos and white men (or whatever group of men voted for trump the most, depending on the stats you have), so pragmatically he and the party that is even close to the left in the us, so the democrats, need to do…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 12:34 AM
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i think its because being femenine doesnt really conflicts so much with the "purpose" of being a woman, both before and after feminism, before feminism women were expected to be nurturing and have kids and being feminine was a plus for that or at worst something neutral, after feminsim women do whatever they want and most just kind of roll of with that, which makes being feminine still a plus or probably neutral (tho that also depends on looks to a certain extent) with men tho, if our purpose fr…
/r/MensRights30/03/25 10:45 PM
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i recomend r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates if you lean more towards the left politically and for more information and advocacy r/TheTinMen
/r/MensRights30/03/25 10:25 PM
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realistically a fat women can get some more attractive guy to have sex with her and/or have some real chance of dating a guy like that, meanwhile a short guy most likely wouldn't have the chance of dating a significantly more attractive women than him, its not impossible, but the odds of a fat woman dating a kind of attractive chubby chaser man are significantly higher than a short man dating an attractive, say taller woman. so it is a double standard for sure, but its also kind of how things go…
/r/MensRights30/03/25 10:18 PM
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the manosphere is a term as vague as woke, its a bogeyman for whatever bad want it to be, but yeah, this may sound really weird but social media is really useful in the fact that it really lets out what these women really think about men and specially men who they consider inferior. I already talked about Tate on this thread but he should be taken more as a case study on the failings of the left and the mainstream to reach men, maybe ill write more about that, but that's basically it. I absolute…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/25 11:06 PM
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i was more funnelled to the incel/blackpill side of this but tate is just the effect of not only denying masculinity as toxic (even with good reasons sometimes) but also in schizophrenically demanding men to still abide by a acts and forms of being attractive that still promote the same masculine ideas that many women consider toxic but at the same time benefit from, like carrying the relationship in its initial stages, paying for stuff, proactivity, protection, providing emotionally and sometim…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/25 10:24 PM
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i dont know if this has to do with your argument but what does prostitution does for a man who feels undesirable? wouldn't the fact that you have to pay to get an illusion of being desired make the feeling worse? tho I guess you are just talking about taking care of physical urges?
/r/MensRights29/03/25 08:35 PM
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i actually used that page to argue with someone else who said that women didn't wanted to be approached when the data said that they absolutely want to, cause they don't want to have to do it and get rejected, and I also think that the choosing of men for resources and maybe intelligence is just not how it works when men (or almost everybody really) are seen as a resource to explore, so most people want the whole package of looks, status, money, personality etc and with women being the ones who …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/25 08:21 PM
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i honestly dont know if i would like all the pandering, victimization and yes queen that women receive but just less disgust and some public policy on education, resources for poor men and stuff like that would be nice.
/r/MensRights29/03/25 01:32 AM
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i dont know about that man, specially the one study about fishes, but regardless of that plenty of guys that I know have bad rumors about them but are handsome have way less problems dating than any man, and even if again, I recognize the advantage of preselection when it comes to married men, something like half of the marriages end up in divorce and I think you made the argument about men being valued for skills and stuff like that but all things being equal and with women needing men increasi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/25 01:29 AM
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so i get you dont think women want to get approached? cause there is this https://datepsychology.com/risk-aversion-and-dating/ it doesn't necessarily disagrees with your take about "authenticity" but yeah, even if only for ego reasons, lots of women do seem to want that, tho I think the biggest reason is just because most women expect men to do the first move, not necessarily because they want to be bothered on the streets or anything like that.
/r/MensRights29/03/25 01:17 AM
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its more like disgust or despise.
/r/MensRights29/03/25 01:08 AM
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mens rights are not profitable, they cant be used to sell shit, or to make one seem more moral (like feminist does) but maybe if men had more stake on their countries our rights would be more respected, not only for the rich but yeah, you can see it in how male labor participation is only discussed when it comes to hurting the bottom line, the GDP, or how men being less "economically attractive" aka rich is only bad when women have less options to date because women don't date down, nor have to.…
/r/MensRights29/03/25 01:03 AM
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some leftist do sometimes say that they want men to abandon gender roles, or even say they arent even a requirement anymore but I don't know, all of them sound really shady somehow, like they would still be asking men to die as cannon fodders in their revolution or protect women and minorities when push comes to shove.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/25 12:55 AM
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is it really about relationship status or is it about looks and general attraction? because yeah, I know that lots of women think that single men or chronically single men are losers and lots of men get more female attention when they get a girlfriend but I don't know if changing that perception (even if it is possible) would change anything in terms of who gets to be chosen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/25 12:49 AM
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but you stil that this is mostly mens fault right? so we should held each other accountable and idk become feminist and be better?
/r/MensRights28/03/25 11:34 PM
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ill put it simply, then i as a man, could be a victim of another man, in ways women wouldn't, I don't hate men, yet women feel entitled to hate men they don't even know for shit they didn't do, don't you think that's wrong? now about the women who are victims of crimes by guys they have relationships with, that's their own choice, they weren't at fault or deserved whatever crimes they are subjected to, yet, what is a man who has nothing to do with it supposed to do about that? what are you expec…
/r/MensRights28/03/25 11:31 PM
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ask men outside of this sub, cause we are probably biased here, but if you don't see how women are part, if not a really big part of the issue then I dont know what to tell you.
/r/MensRights28/03/25 11:12 PM
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i already said that, i know those are men, i dont hate them, and some one of my friends was even stabed, lots have been robbed, why cant women do the same?and is a man less dead because another man killed him or something, or are women lives more valuable or something? men are in way more danger of being a victim and a perpetrator, but again, I think you don't get it, men would be their own worst enemies if we let ourselves blame half of the population for something someone else did, don't you t…
/r/MensRights28/03/25 11:10 PM
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and you dont think that women perpetrate those "toxic stereotypes"?
/r/MensRights28/03/25 10:55 PM
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i dont hate women and i think you are underestimating how hateful the average feminist is, its cool that you want to help women, most people, men and women do, but ill tell you a story now that you are bringing up women fear of men, I live in a very unsafe country, most people who commit crime are poor, and most poor people are men, other men are also way more likely to be victims of violent crimes, so by all means I would have to have more reasons to be clasist and mysandrist right? i don't tho…
/r/MensRights28/03/25 10:51 PM
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brother the guy literally told you that his problem and situation was about a woman, maybe is something not that common but why are you blaming men for something that women are clearly doing?
/r/MensRights28/03/25 10:44 PM
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ethnic women dont need any help on hating or rejecting dudes of their ethnicity, maybe you can make a call out about colonialism and how white is the standard of beauty but what I'm trying to say is that you cant infantilize them that much, they are grown ass people who choose to go for white dudes for their own grown ass reasons and whatever they get or lose out of it is on them. kind of weird how ethnic men are material for comedians and memes and people looking for an easy target when they go…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/25 10:40 PM
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i personally dont know, as i have some friends and not exactly the most social person in general, far from it really, but you have to look at what kind of loneliness are we talking about, cause if it is romantic then you already gave your opinion on it, and I think that there were some studies about men reporting less friends (nothing about wanting more also) but others say that loneliness is rising across the board for men and women, so idk, its also kind of telling that a married woman is the …
/r/MensRights27/03/25 09:35 PM
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i have seen some numbers that point at this being a general loneliness epidemic instead of a male one, and with how stupid some people were with the "male loneliness epidemic" I don't know if I want to treat this problem as an exclusively male one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/25 02:20 PM
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depends on the feminism and depends on the feminist, but its not like most feminist want or need, apparently, men's support as much as they just feel entitled to it, but most arent doing anything for men, which is fine if they didn't believed themselves to be about all people, yet they seem to want support when they are not giving it and want to make themselves seem like they have our best interest in mind when their most radical peers literally want to kill men and that is somehow fair game, it…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/25 04:17 PM
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you can try and find something more "western" in Royal Road or scribblehub, lots of trash but there are always some gems here and there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/25 03:55 AM
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i think the term for them was fujoshis? or just fanfiction readers if they use wattpad and ao3, kind of weird that those kind of women are up and arms about men watching wish fulfilment anime or playing video games about dating really attractive fictional women but then are fans of gay porn written by women or erotica a la fifty shades of gray and the like.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/25 03:52 AM
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we are all about webnovels now, not whatever romantacy slop someone plagiarized from wattpad or the likes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/25 03:44 AM
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sure m8, take it personally, whatever, keep on defending women ig, not like they need to tho.
/r/MensRights25/03/25 12:56 AM
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But crimes against women are high and always has been. it isnt tho, thats the thing, at least not compared to men's As in previous years, the majority of homicide victims in year ending (YE) March 2024 were male, making up almost three-quarters of all victims (73%) with around a quarter being female (27%). However, there continued to be important distinctions between the sexes in their risk of being victims of different types of homicide. There were 414 male victims in the last year, a similar n…
/r/MensRights24/03/25 11:02 PM
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i dont want to engage with ragebait but i think its good that women are saying exactly what they mean to say to men and especially men they don't like, but are probably too scared to say it to their faces, it kind of makes it easier to disengage and know who they really are if they are so willing to say shit about men in social media.
/r/MensRights24/03/25 04:47 PM
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nah for sure, i was just thinking about kind of my own circumstances and kind of how lots of kids get the blackpill content and just kind of roll of with it without nuance, and I think that there is just a lot that you can not do when the odds are against you, if that makes sense? like, I don't know how to explain it but a lot of the problems that incels, or guys who come across the blackpill is the fact that there is genuinely a lot of difficulties about height, frame, ethnicity, extroversion e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/25 04:42 PM
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Not even a good looking bro is going to cut it she isnt saying she doesnt wants one of those good looking guys, she is saying that she wants that on top of whatever standard of money, status and charisma she imagines is owed, is not like the good looking bro is not going to cut it and the ugly billionaire with aspargers would, is that the good looking bro wont cut it compared to another good looking man who also happens to be rich and charismatic, the ugly aspergets rich guy wasn't even in her e…
/r/MensRights24/03/25 04:12 PM
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so, how comes people get so stupid when you say that women control relationships and are the ones choosing but at the same time expose their standards and only worry about women not getting partners when this has been going on for men for a long time now?
/r/MensRights24/03/25 04:10 PM
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ok and im not sure if i can word this better but: how exactly would you plan to de-radicalize them? if that makes sense, like if they have the issues that some incels have that makes them unnatractive, how would you go around convincing them that the incels are wrong? not that, I don't know, going to a Walmart and showing that not only men who are "chads" are having kids but the world is simply entirely too different to the world married people and parents of today lived thru so I'm kind of curi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/25 03:48 PM
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i get it, maybe you are talking about the research on mental illness and even suicides in the incel groups?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/25 03:35 PM
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that reaction isnt surprising depending on what are you specting but It’s a shame, the impression I had from the show is there aren’t necessarily going to be obvious warning signs. People need to be aware of what to look for. could you elaborate on this?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/25 09:40 PM
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its 414 per year but the numbers vary a little bit depending on the research https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/homicideinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2024#:~:text=However%2C%20there%20continued%20to%20be,(from%20173%20to%20156))
/r/MensRights23/03/25 09:36 PM
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sure thing, women being killed by men whom they had a relationship with was way less, and that was kind of the context of the post, but sure, say whatever you want.
/r/MensRights23/03/25 09:34 PM
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sure, you still were wrong about your numbers tho, men are killed way more even if it is by other men,
/r/MensRights23/03/25 09:28 PM
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However, there continued to be important distinctions between the sexes in their risk of being victims of different types of homicide. There were 414 male victims in the last year, a similar number compared with the previous year (412), while the number of female victims decreased by 10% (from 173 to 156).6 feb 2025 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/homicideinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2024#:\~:text=However%2C%20there%20continued%20to%20be,(from%201…
/r/MensRights23/03/25 08:14 PM
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is it that different from women trying to get "top tier" guys? or are women more willing to share or something like that?
/r/MensRights23/03/25 01:58 AM
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economics also plays a huge part on this but it's so intertwined on this that I have no way to express all the effects that its having on politics, gender relations and even dating stuff, yet some part of the left kind of ignores that and goes full on identitarian stuff.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/25 01:52 AM
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Ii agree with you on the "class reductionism" but I just refuse to share space with people who despise me or hate me, and lots of leftist political figures do just that, wont change my votes because of it, but damn if i wouldn't go straight up to the center if they had my best interest in mind, the right would be like jumping straight in to the fire, but yes, I also get why dudes get radicalized into voting for them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/25 01:43 AM
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part of reaching men is a matter of language, but mostly I think that drawing a line and showing care about problems affecting men could be a great way forward, especially about men's mental health, suicides, addiction, loneliness and other issues that we discuss here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/25 01:39 AM
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i do agree on not falling for the same traps as feminist on hating men because they happen to have a different ideology but male feminist are either deluded or willingly malicious/ignorant, maybe we could settle on condemning their actions and/or takes while trying to not judge them as people but its not like wider feminism does the same for groups they disagree so idk.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/03/25 01:07 AM
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"shit like this happens all the time" brother your worry about women is your prerogative but this has to do with crimes and radicalization, it really isn't that common, you know?
/r/MensRights22/03/25 11:23 PM
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eh, it wasnt as bad as i thought, pretty standard political slop for social media, the equivalent of a hog ranting on his truck but for a feminine public, pure pandering and yes, stupid ideas over a feel-good message but idk, I expected worse, at least is not male bashing just because.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/25 03:56 PM
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he benefits from it, women who watch and leave likes and comments literally pay his bills and give him validation, it fucks the other men, but for him it just works.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/25 03:51 PM
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lots of guys ask for advice, particularly but no specifically, about dating and women, and get some shade or flavor of this shame-based feminism, and often, as you say, may rebel against it, but some internalize it and get their self-esteem crushed or crushed more if it was already bad, they self-flagelate for the sake of men they don't know and women who don't want them, its not that common normally, but it happens in some leftist circles with male feminist. they know what abuse feels like so t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/25 03:49 PM
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its a result of gamergate but also: i vaguely remember some outrage with the horizon zero main character and I think with the witcher? don't know if that's what you are talking about but leaving aside the fact that the same design bullshit happens to, for instance, Gerald also in the witcher series, I don't really see much of a issue with it? its a big marker and you can always look for something that fits your preferences if you look hard enough, like indies or fangames, there is something fro …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/25 06:47 PM
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yeah and again, its not just feminist wanna be guys, I guess its more the the "bro" type of person that some people on the left dislike so much? because I have seen a lot of guys going against men and making videos and hit pieces or comedy shows of "cringe" men and shit like that just to say "men, am I right?" just for a crumb of female validation. they want so much to be this nonchalant and "chill" guy who just happens to "respect" women but they are so disingenuous that I wonder if women reall…
/r/MensRights20/03/25 04:57 PM
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i mean, im pretty sure it is just stupidity, like women who gave love letters to Charles mansion wouldn't really all go for him just because, and lots just like the idea, or more like the phantasy, that they make about those men or other men that they like, doesn't means that they will do it, they are just being self-indulgent, like guys who say "I can fix her" under the mugshot of an attractive female criminal. what makes me more interested about luigi, aside from political reasons, is the fact…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/25 07:57 PM
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how is this so stupid while at the same time being kind of close to some actual men's rights talking points, like yeah, fuck tate, fuck the right-wingers, I really don't think they have more to offer in terms of actual rights compared to the left, its all just lip service from one side and pure hatred from the other. it does rises interesting questions but idk, I just cant trust people who always bring on women even when the problems supposedly have nothing to do with them, and I don't really kn…
/r/MensRights19/03/25 03:21 AM
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aside from the religious discussion attraction doesnt means morality and lack of attraction doesn't means lack of morals, and I know that women and lots of men who don't experience that want to think that guys who are lonely or just don't have luck on romance not by choice are bad and should do x,y, and z, from basic hygiene to being a different person or "just be a good person bro" but again, attraction isn't morality, attraction is attraction, women wouldn't be complaining about their exes if …
/r/MensRights19/03/25 03:09 AM
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you do realize that being pumped and dumped or not being pumped and dumped would be her choice? at least she would have more agency than the guy who would be left on read no matter what.
/r/MensRights19/03/25 03:01 AM
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i havent watched the show but are you saying that the teen was just bad? like the dad just has to deal with his son being a monster for reasons beyond his control and that's that? is that the lesson of the show? wasn it supposed to be in part about manosphere stuff? cause this sounds like a school shooter being analyzed post-mortem or something like that.
/r/MensRights18/03/25 09:52 PM
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I do. I've experienced it. It didn't have a big impact on me. Friends who've had similar experiences felt the same way. this is the core of my issue with your comments tho, maybe you should ask other men outside your usual circle? try it here on the internet, cause I don't think its something you can just shug off like a bad hookup or something similar, tho maybe for the men that share your experience (partying and going to raves) sex is just kind of not big of a deal, but assuming I understand …
/r/MensRights18/03/25 09:32 PM
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most men dont have the experience of being forced to have sex when it they don't want it to happen, the question is about men who have, surely you can at least imagine that would be at least hard to experience and could leave aftereffects to said men? because I don't know if you have been thru that. but maybe I'm misunderstanding something, by your logic, you don't think its a big deal, you don't see other men (who haven't experienced that) thinking its a big deal, so it isn't, right? maybe you …
/r/MensRights18/03/25 08:16 PM
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about men not supporting male victims? the fact that you don't think its a bad thing doesn't means that most other men are like you, and I don't know why are you so confident about talking about most men. and your answer was re-posted three times btw.
/r/MensRights18/03/25 06:49 PM
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what makes you think that other men have the same experience as you? or the same reaction for that matter.
/r/MensRights18/03/25 04:17 PM
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i think most men express their emotions in a different way from women, but would appreciate having a choice in the matter, even if the choice is not crying most of the time, and having the choice of crying when they think it matters without it having negative consequences to you.
/r/MensRights17/03/25 11:16 PM
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i think that lots of guys are just not engaging, independently of the pills phylosophies and politics , maybe beyond red and blackpills and feminist and democrats and all that we have a lot of disengaged men, I think most guys get, even if instinctually, the difficulties in dating and in the economy and all the stuff that we discuss or see here, but just dong engage and rot or do their own thing, or even see that the people who don't have their best interest in mind are the ones more interested …
/r/MensRights17/03/25 04:52 PM
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i get what you are saying but at least in the US and the UK there is some conversations going in the progressive political parties about seeking male voters, not because they care about men, but maybe you are right and they'll simply double down on their bullshit and blame men and call them names when they lose, I would like to think that they simply need the male vote to win and that's why they'll change their policies but its hard to know at this point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/25 02:05 AM
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what you said is true in general but the label is more prevalent in young women if I remember correctly
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/25 02:02 AM
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i apologize if i wasnt being clear so ill try again, lets say a woman wants a man who is emotionally attuned to her, whatever that may means for her specifically, she wants that yet most men in her culture are quite closed off and stoic at best or emotionally repressed at worst, and whether she wants that or not, the reality is that with most men not being what she wants she has to choose between not choosing anyone and being alone or going thru a lot of dates and people to get the emotionally a…
/r/MensRights16/03/25 07:41 PM
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i understand your point and i would also say that women have better PR, if that makes sense? like women think of each other as a united front and society keeps on saying that women support each other, so it self-perpetuates even if, as you say, their connections are shallow or just lip service at best, but I'm still not sure about men being more careful with support and stuff like that, I do think we could use more solidarity with each other, even if it is hard.
/r/MensRights14/03/25 10:16 PM
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they are making efforts, if only on paper, to seek male voters in elections around the European Union and the anglosphere, because they fear a rise of the alt-right, and to some extent worrying about the lack of tax payers because of less men participating in the work-force, that last part could be getting shafted because of AI, but I think at least the democtrats got a wake-up calling and to some extent labor, so they might make efforts to try and promise policies for men, specially working cla…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/25 02:59 AM
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its cool that they are going mask off with the disposability of men tho, they really value more even the memory of a dead man who sacrificed himself out of "chivalry" rather than valuing the lives of men today, I wonder if they would like that if the ones dying were their loved ones, tho seeing how callously men are treated I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't cared.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/25 02:46 AM
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women dont support women, they have more in-group bias and men also support women on top of that, at some level is biological, but I think its also social posturing, and I guess a common think to unnite men would be against a common struggle? it works with women and "patriarchy" and hence against men, but when it comes to it I think that men just have too much variance with each other to truly support one another, maybe in some cases rich men support other rich men as a class, or sportsmen with …
/r/MensRights13/03/25 10:12 PM
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thats so anoying to even read, and to think that some guy will be begging to change her mind for a crumb or will be hot enough to get that bullshit in the first place. sucks that she wont be lonely but again, women live on easy mode when it comes to relationships, it is what it is.
/r/MensRights13/03/25 05:27 PM
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is it romantic loneliness or general loneliness?
/r/MensRights12/03/25 04:53 PM
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and lots of people really say "oh but everyone knows that attractive people are more liked duh, weren't you paying attention in school or something?" and yes, that's true, its obvious that life is mostly easier when you are attractive, everyone knows and sees they are the most popular and liked, but knowing what makes them attractive, how little or how much you can do to change your situation and or how to cope with it are not something you just "get". i guess you can compare it to teenage girls…
/r/MensRights12/03/25 04:50 PM
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does it has to do with evolutionary psychology or is it a different thing?
/r/MensRights11/03/25 10:57 PM
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She's 100% going to try to destroy your reputation and character among your friends, family, and colleagues and you never can do anything about this as a man, guilty until proven innocent and even then lots of women specially would distrust you just because, maybe out of vibes or whatever, but its inevitable.
/r/MensRights11/03/25 04:16 PM
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its the equivalent of a male "waifu"/"maniac pixie girl" for women, a man who is convenient, is who they want them to be, when they want them to be, in the way they want them to be, until they don't, and usually without even communicating it, he happens to be that way. the thing is that there are entire subgenres of fiction, tiktoks and internet spaces when men act or hope to act like that in order to be even considered attractive for those women, for the "female gaze" its like simping but compe…
/r/MensRights11/03/25 04:07 PM
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its easy to follow the path of less resistance and that is feminism when it comes to gender discourse, adding to that the fact that lots of guys just don't have any skin on the game when it comes to being discriminated (until they do) and you have men throwing other men under the bus for good boy points, ignoring the fact that they are one step away from being the men they demonize, in most cases.
/r/MensRights11/03/25 03:56 PM
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no, but suffering loudly makes you a nuance or a target/prey, so that's that.
/r/MensRights10/03/25 09:56 PM
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its easy cause most wont fight back, kind of like with men? they think they are good to go and the hate only happens to creeps/guys who deserve it, so if you happen to be mad about it... and its also almost impossible to fight back against, like, how do you even defend yourself if someone subjectively has an opinion about you and that opinion kind of colours your whole character? do you go out of your way to act like the opposite of other (indian) men? do you throw them under the bus? you shrug …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/25 09:55 PM
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you dont owe anyone anything would be taking a page out of the feminist/female handbook but its kind of fitting for these discussions.
/r/MensRights10/03/25 04:21 PM
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Around two in five men aged 18-29 (37%) say they are a feminist when asked the direct question (i.e. the word-only group); this level of self-identification decreases the older one gets, with only 22% of men aged 60 and above sharing this view. In contrast, between 80-88% of men aged 50 and above are more likely to think men and women should have equal rights (the definition-only group) compared to 75% males aged 18-29. seems like lots of younger men know that identifying as a feminist is the wa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/25 04:09 PM
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so you think its a catch-22 kind of situation? as they will cry about patriarchy and victimism either way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/25 07:57 PM
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The post said it was bonding not that all female bonding is just that, you make it sound as if it doesn't happens when you say you "only care about your partners and thats it" but then admit women shit talk about everything.
/r/MensRights09/03/25 07:56 PM
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so you have never heard women shit talk about men just because?
/r/MensRights09/03/25 07:12 PM
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yeah, the same shit that its so villanized when its incels or redpillers doing it, but women get a pass because their grandmothers couldn't vote and the men who date them think they are build different, so they kind of don't care about the hate.
/r/MensRights09/03/25 07:09 PM
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better than the normal hysterical bullshit, still going on about patriarchy and I wouldn't be surprised of toxic masculinity was something this columnist firmly believes in, but yeah, bullshit. also kind of funny that she cites the stats about young men being twice as likely to be single than single women and believes that doesn't says a lot about young women obviously sharing top men, I guess she thinks those men who are juggling multiple women are feminist or something and that's why that's fi…
/r/MensRights09/03/25 07:03 PM
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i agree with your take and will take the siblings analogy for later use but do you have any idea about why are they even performing/acting out "empathy" for men now? like aside from some fear of men, specially disenfranchised or similar men lashing out, maybe it is a lack of votes for their political candidates? or maybe its a lack of men engaging in spending or stuff like that? maybe a lack of tax payers if men are not economically active? I'm asking this mostly because I'm used to the media an…
/r/MensRights09/03/25 06:56 PM
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how do you categorize violence against someone because of their gender and violence because of other reasons? most of the victims of violent crimes are men and lots of criminals and gang members exclusively go for men and don't touch women, would those men be experiencing violence because they are men? should those kind of crimes be androcides or something similar?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/25 06:45 PM
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to Dworkin, this was a misogynist scam to turn women into "public property" through the three Ps: promiscuity, prostitution, and pornography i want to know if you or anyone has a take about this part, I think its pretty obvious that by the simple fact that women have agency in their lives, whether they want o do porn, or sex work or are promiscuous, whether they liked it or not afterwards, its their prerogative as grown people and its not necessarily cohesive or in favor of men (maybe in favor o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/03/25 06:39 PM
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its bad faith argument so it doesnt really matter what you respond, they wont like it, will blame patriarchy for it or will say its self-inflicted problem.
/r/MensRights07/03/25 10:25 PM
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what men want is not so relevant given that women opinions matter a whole lot for most hetero men, and most women don't like men crying, in a spectrum of them not liking men who cry even in "reasonable" situations to women who don't men crying over nothing, in general is a safe bet to assume that crying in front of a woman is a mistake, and that's enough to deter most guys from doing it.
/r/MensRights07/03/25 10:20 PM
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i dont think crying is bad and i dont care what they want but crying isn't bad, even if it isn't for something big, tho no matter what, crying in front of a woman is almost always a bad idea, no matter the reason.
/r/MensRights07/03/25 10:17 PM
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DEI from the outside, as a non-american, seems like a good idea, in a way? but the more I hear about it the more I dislike it, I don't think this "dismantling" of those programs is exactly what we need or it even could be a step backwards if they decide that being left-leaning is "woke" or some shit and decide to take actions against anyone not republican, but again I'm not American so I don't know anything about what you lot will get on the future. also as an aside, the job market seems increas…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/25 07:09 PM
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