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/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:31 PM
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Right.. so guess my life isn’t real then
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:11 PM
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Seems contradictory to how I find romantic partners. Of course some women are super duper picky or for other reasons just aren’t interested but there’s no shortage of women that want a fun time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:00 PM
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Ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:18 AM
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Making men can be a good way of filtering out the men only interesting in sex. BUT there’s also a shit ton of men that will stay (although they’re only interested in sex) and lose interest as soon as they get it. And in that case you’re just out of luck. God it must suck dating as a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 08:16 AM
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The issue is that culturally women have been made to not take up as much space in the bedroom (and in life also) in comparison to men. Hence lots of them still struggle with this
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:46 AM
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It is, combined with narcissism. The real answer is that you probably outshine that hypothetical “lowlife” by miles. Yet you obsess over that someone that low value could be interesting for your woman in the past. If anything that person should be jealous of you, not the other way around. It’s perfectly logical that women want to have more fun and excitement in their youths and some of these low value men provide that. Or maybe even learn a thing or two from them, did they offer really good sex?…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:36 AM
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Give me an example of what you’re saying
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:54 PM
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I already provided the most realistic solution which is, go for another woman. You think it’s a bad solution, yet haven’t provided anything else. So the onus is on you now
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:49 PM
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Oh my bad, what I mean to say was: perform brain surgery on her to change her mind and also invent a Time Machine so you can alter her past. Better?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:29 PM
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Alright so tell me then, what do you think is a good way of going forward with life and dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:16 PM
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It’s in the thinking “I deserve that too” when you aren’t providing the same things
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:11 PM
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No people together decide what morally right or wrong. It’s partly what makes our species more intelligent
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:57 PM
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So you’ve got at least 5 potential reasons there, yet earlier you said you had none. Why not start there?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:54 PM
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Thank you. Likewise my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:52 PM
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Ethics gets to decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:46 PM
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If you’re super unlucky genetically speaking, that practically no woman wants to be with you. Maybe it isn’t your fault as in because of you, but in another way it is. They aren’t interested in you because of the cards you were dealt by chance. I know it’s a shitty situation, but those people have to accept that. As I can’t find an ethical solution either
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:43 PM
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Right. Well it seems, that isn’t enough
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:39 PM
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So don’t get with set hypothetical woman and find someone else, case closed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:38 PM
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You really have no idea as to why? Like what’s your best guess then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:37 PM
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Alright, so entitlement then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:36 PM
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If I understand what you’re saying correctly, I wouldn’t be surprised no. But when these men use that example, they never talk about an actual person in their life. They just imagine that every girl willing to settle down with them would’ve done that if they met earlier. So it’s a fantasy more than anything
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:34 PM
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Aim at those willing to get with you. Simply put. I have an idea, why don’t you ask people for their honest “ranking” of your attractiveness, and then shoot for women ranked similarly?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:31 PM
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Right
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:29 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:28 PM
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By higher standards I’m comparing the old societies where pretty much all you needed was an income.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:28 PM
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Well to some, it isn’t. People can also lack the ability to procreate. More importantly though, as seen on this thread, the men that swear their only interest is sex, they’re still not willing to achieving that by lowering their standards and aiming at appropriate demographics
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:27 PM
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Excellent hypothesis
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:24 PM
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If that really is the only option left, what can you do realistically speaking
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:24 PM
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Yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:18 PM
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Could be true, but sounds highly childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:17 PM
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So if that is understandable, isn’t it also understandable that you might be below average psychically speaking and hence should aim at women in that same category or below?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:17 PM
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Alright, so you’ve found your solution then. Good job
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:15 PM
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I gave two logical potential reasons before, although this person disagrees with it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:13 PM
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Well those benefits are highly subjective. As for me for example, I don’t think it isn’t beneficial. I’m happy for you but I’m talking about the sea of lonely men on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:12 PM
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I understand where the jealousy and irritation comes from, but surely no logical adult should invest time in that mind set no? Seems extremely unproductive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:10 PM
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It’s a bad analogy because sewer water would kill you whereas lowering your standards of potential mates won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:08 PM
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It wasn’t targeted at you personally more so at the idea or logical train here. Simply, I don’t believe that those women you’re describing are your ONLY options. You mentioned that you have a above average body, that lands you somewhere different right away. But please tell me what and why you think women don’t want you. And we can go from there
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:07 PM
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So what’s the solution there? Force women that don’t want to have sex with you to fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:04 PM
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Society changes, what a shocker. It seems women have done way more to actually excel in comparison to men, and now these men are fed up. The only logical thing for these men to do is to better themselves. And for those who that doesn’t even work, well life is unfair. Not much you can do about that I’m afraid
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:03 PM
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Yea. And cultural shifts also probably play a role in this. It wasn’t long ago where pretty much all you needed to get a relationship was a stable job
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:00 PM
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I agree it’s insecurity and jealousy, but they rarely admit that part. Well interest as in I always had multiple “girlfriends” (if you can call them that) in school and such and I was never the one trying to have them. Definitely agree with that last segment
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:59 PM
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That’s not why it’s comparable in my example
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:56 PM
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So insecurity combined with narcissism then. I can be mad at the hypothetical person getting the job I want easier than me, but then I’d be homeless. Just as the guy you’re describing will stay lonely. I’m just trying to help, but it seems actual help is unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:56 PM
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Well all you hear from the red-pill is exactly what you’re preaching, so how much more do they have to hear that (even if it’s false or not)?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:53 PM
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You have to weight the risk/reward here. You make it sound like the most important thing to you is to get laid or find a partner, and I come with an actual solution in achieving that which is “lower your standards”, but your counter to that is “no I don’t wanna, because I don’t want to disrespect myself”. Like how does that logic add up? What’s the next option? Take a woman against her will? Like give me something
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:52 PM
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Jealousy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:50 PM
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Honestly, that makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:50 PM
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The anger/irritation can be logical (for lack of a better word) but how much time you spend in that pity-hole until you realize it doesn’t matter and it probably only destructive and counter productive to your goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:48 PM
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But isn’t it well expected that lots of people (men and women) are more short-term thinkers and want what’s more exiting and thrilling in their youths? I know I was like that, and I’m a man
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:46 PM
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But that just sounds like insecurity. Like I’m not thinking about that I have to put in much harder work to get a job over someone that has better connections or resumes. It doesn’t matter for me personally, as all I can do is my best
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:44 PM
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Exactly my thoughts as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:43 PM
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I understand. But why don’t you just lower your standards then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:43 PM
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Well most people are shallow in some ways, including men. Pure maturity is pretty rare in young people
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:42 PM
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It’s not hard though. In fact it’s the easiest way to get laid in my opinion. You basically set up time and place, and the rest is history
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:14 PM
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Well that could also be because men have practically no standards in comparison to women, the list of potential mates for men is endless in that regard. Also, skinny men are deemed as very attractive for women. Same with men with dad-bods. This is just a myth that the virgins and red pillers online obsess over. If you take a look at the majority of men in relationships, most of them are average. The averageness speaks for itself
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 10:08 AM
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Right, but that’s just logical. People like attractive people, wether they’re physically or psychologically attractive. The real advice is that for a lesser attractive individual, he should aim for a woman in his own “legue” or below, where this issue wouldn’t appear as much. That goes for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:19 AM
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Personally it just makes them want me more but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:48 PM
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Typical insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:11 PM
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Well that’s life. Nobody has it all. No normal functioning adult obsesses over that though, you can just do your best
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 10:20 AM
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Why is this something you think about? Do you walk around jealous over people who are born rich for example? This sounds more like a inner hatred for women masked by a bs reason
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:01 PM
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Your line of thinking doesn’t make sense according to your own logic. You think “women aim higher than their own level”, so logically if you find a woman low enough in comparison to you, you’d exist in that very demographic for her. Unless you’re the single most ugliest man on the planet (since theoretically no woman would be “below” you) but nobody here is, so it doesn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:15 PM
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I’ll ask again, why not try something you haven’t tried yet then? Doesn’t seem like there’s anything else left for you right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:11 PM
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Then they should deal with it as well. The difference is that your hypothetical will probably never happen, so nothing has to change there. Unlike the very fact that womens standards have increased.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:05 PM
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Yourself primarily. So it’s not just about finding someone is it? You want to stay in the zone where the women you think you deserve don’t want you, so you live endlessly in that spot mentally and physically for no reason other than complaining. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 10:01 PM
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I disagree, so where do we go from here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:51 PM
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Depends on how low you go really
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:50 PM
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Ok so time to really lower your standards, if you want to be realistic of course
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:49 PM
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If that’s your only option left, then that’s what’s left. You know it, they know it. So do it? No, instead you want to whine about not getting anything “better”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:47 PM
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Hence I ended with an actual solution. But they seem to be too spoiled to do that. You could say that, but it’s not going to change anything. Just as the inverse
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:45 PM
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Well you clearly didn’t understand my prior comment mate
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:43 PM
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Well that means if you go for a woman much uglier (or whatnot) than you then by her having higher standards that would imply you’re in set demographic for her. Unless of course you’re the ugliest man in the world in the literal sense, which nobody here is
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:37 PM
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There are many reasons as to why women prefer taller (or the same height) men, and the vast majority of those reasons are perfectly logical
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:45 PM
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I never had issues getting women even when I was dead broke so I don’t see the issue. Even now I never disclose the money I make and usually lie saying I make just enough to get by, and still I get the exact same result. The women you’re talking about are a specific type of woman that just prioritize status/money etc. But vast majority of women don’t, and that’s evident by the average couple
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 03:51 PM
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Right
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 05:09 PM
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The only thing Im saying here is that, back when you were single, if you wanted to increase the potentiality of banging random dudebros, a good way of doing that would be to stay fit and look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:08 PM
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MAYBE not on a global average. But I do think they generally care less about it than men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 03:22 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 03:05 PM
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What we were arguing about was the reason as to why this "preference" exists amongst men specifically. My argument (which sounds somewhat aligned with yours) was that its because of insecurity. Whereas his argument was something else
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 03:00 PM
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So you think the norm/preferences are the same now as it was in the 90s for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:53 PM
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Well yes of course the probably most important thing is the hip - waist ratio, but after that it doesn´t really matter much Edit: also my overall point was that beauty trends come and go. Like in the 90s it was widely more popular to be very skinny in contrast to today where its more popular to be "thick" or whatever you wanna call it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 02:01 PM
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Except putting on "relationship weight" happens to both genders. Of course when youre single and want to casually hook up youll probably going to take more steps to put yourself out there as more attractive, just logical
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 01:54 PM
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Yea but with more extreme deviations from the standards. Maybe not in YOUR opinion but historically its true
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 01:48 PM
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Same same. It was about the reason behind mens issues with sexually liberated women. I wasnt denying evolutionary behaviors lol. I answered all your "counters" perfectly and you stopped responding which seems like you gave up or had nothing to say. You can respond back to that thread and we can continue the convo over there if you think you can argue a good point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:42 PM
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I think we just have different definitions of thick. When I say thick Im talking about curvy, wide hips, big boobs and butt etc. And when I say skinny Im talking about a more high end model type body. Also, what happened to our last debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 12:09 PM
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Beauty trends usually come and go. Right now Id say the "standard" would be on the thicker side. Also thickness is usually more sought after in poorer societies whereas skinniness is the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:47 AM
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Im not saying that "Biology and evolutionary behavior has no validity", Im just saying it doesnt in THIS. Its the same reason why we cant use "its biology" in todays world for the justification of murder. Humanity changes with time. Not long? The biggest contender by far is with the existence of the biggest Abrahamic religions. That's why you can draw a direct line backwards in time to where these ideas of female "purity" first developed for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 06:07 PM
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I told you exactly WHY it has no validity. Did you not read my prior comment? Here, in case you missed it: "we can simply look for direct similarities in appearances, but more importantly nowadays we have actual dna-testing"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:38 PM
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That argument has no validity since we can simply look for direct similarities in appearances, but more importantly nowadays we have actual dna-testing. Its like all the other arguments regarding this discrepancy, its either completely outdated or a non-issue. Like I said, the REAL reason is male-insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:28 PM
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Yea thats a good way to mess things up lol. No need to be jealous if she is YOUR wife
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:50 PM
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Things like history, cultural expectations and societal norms which treats these two things differently ("these two things" meaning men/women) which then leads to male insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 04:40 PM
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I'm a man so don't know if I'm allowed to answer this but on average men are definitely more jealous. There are many things that play into that, like history, cultural expectations and societal norms. Just take Islam for example that's practiced by 2 billion people, where the men that die waging jihad will get 72 virgin women in heaven. And since its highlighted that they must be virgins means that's a mans "ultimate price" (its "paradise" after all)... Or how 95%+ of men of all corners of the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 03:47 PM
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Luckily we can use our hands to avoid constant hard ons. Also makes it sound like all people should have the right to demand sex, which I disagree with. You could do the research and get back to me but last time I checked the number was even smaller than 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:53 PM
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Technically sure they may be happier to get someone who recently took a shower or something but that’s like saying “it’s better to destroy your house with a bulldozer than to blow it up with dynamite because the bulldozer takes longer AKA your house is still standing for longer”. It makes no difference as a whole because the house is ultimately destroyed either way
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:48 PM
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I agree its bullshit and also too energy consuming. That’s why I don’t do it, or actively try to not do it anyway. I find no purpose for it actually as the sex isn’t THAT important. Well yea, I never had the need to that’s true but if I take your vegan analogy for example, I’d say you’d probably still think it’s “unethical” only now you’d be in a position where you’d have to chose between living and going against your morals. The risk there is death. Whereas the risk with the sex thing is not ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:43 PM
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“Everybody lies to each other all the time about everything” eh no buddy… that’s you. I’ve never felt the need to life or manipulate women and I’ve been with 100+. Not done escorts either as I think that’s immoral, but that’s another saga
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:19 PM
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And the only thing that gave you was a ego boost?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:04 PM
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Obviously they don’t expect that because that’s not their job. “Others things are bad too” isn’t a argument
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:04 PM
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That’s what you’ve told yourself to either feel better or just being too optimistic. The real truth is that 100% of those women would rather have you just give them the money without doing anything sexual period. That alone shows it’s not anything else other than money
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 08:22 PM
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Have you done it for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 08:19 PM
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I simply disagree, I don’t think it’s the best teacher. Like I said, it’s unreliable. Having kids = having partners to have sex with. So as long as it’s consensual, it must mean there’s no shortage of women going for the poorest of men. Men make most of the money by far when compared to the sexes so mathematically it wouldn’t make much sense
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:03 PM
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And.. we’re back. You don’t have to have first hand experience to know what you prefer or is attracted to. This is really simple stuff my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:40 PM
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Yea and experience can be and is often skewed, so it’s not reliable. Maybe you should start by looking at the average household income. Poorer people usually have EVEN MORE kids than the inverse so that pokes hole in your claim right away
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:37 PM
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Well do you want my own personal experience or just search around the internet a few minutes for countless free studies regarding this specific topic? What seems more effective?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:30 PM
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Yea and same usually goes for women, what’s the point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:26 PM
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Maybe you didn’t fully read my latest response to that, but those are a specific type of women. Then again, not to be pessimistic or anything but arguing with “red pillers” usually ends up being a waste of time as they base their opinions on emotion and not actual data nor facts
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:25 PM
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You don’t think a guy could say “I find chubby women attractive” before actually ever sleeping with a chubby girl? And thinking those are attractive traits/actions doesn’t mean your whole life or career has to revolve around it. Careers don’t necessarily have to go hand in hand with peoples preferences regarding these things
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:20 PM
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Yea probably. Also shows basic levels of personal responsibility, hygiene, order etc
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:07 PM
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Because it only increases your odds amongst particular types of women like conservative and gold-digger types etc. Most women don’t prioritize high value men or the general couple would look drastically different.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:05 PM
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It’s common sense based on life experience, the studies just help solidify it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:39 PM
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Not JUST studies of course. 10+ years of dating experience, but since people don’t really trust anecdotal evidence (rightfully so) studies is the next best thing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:38 PM
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We’re all delusional and you’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:37 PM
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Not to be mean but it’s such common sense at this point I doubt he has lot of experience with women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:54 PM
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If your counter is “they’re lying” then what else can I say? You’ve tied my hands and any other study proving you wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:50 PM
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I disagree. As it shows that the person isn’t unhygienic, irresponsible or lazy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:49 PM
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Keep in mind that “high paying career” isn’t a innate masculine trait. And the women that are “turned on” by a man that is high-status is a particular type of woman. Most women don’t prioritize such things and that’s evident by just looking at the general population. Personally though, I’d definitely be attracted to a woman that is a high earning CEO or something of that nature. And I’ve read that women do find men that can take care of the house more attractive. And being good with kids is even…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:43 PM
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I actually read a study claiming that a man that does housework is one of the most attractive things a man can do in the eyes of a woman. Which isn’t surprising in the slightest
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:36 PM
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This just sounds like another self pity post. Dating hasn’t changed much in the past 10 year (in my experience)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:12 AM
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Who told you I was going to address any point or even counter argue? I just wanted to state my opinion. But I’m open to debating, hence I’ve asked for specific points
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 11:04 PM
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What points specifically do you want me to address?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 10:48 PM
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I disagree, I think it’s great! And fortunately for me, like you’re saying, it’s only increasing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 10:47 PM
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I mean yea, looks and status makes it easier to have sex but personality is almost always a must for more long term relationships. Why are you even red pill to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 06:22 PM
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That’s so sad that you feel like you have to lie and put others down to be interesting enough… Work on your own shit dog
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:20 PM
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Because believe it or not, but most women still understand the importance of men regardless of men being the destroyers of society. So I don’t think they’d want to. But I’m terms of decreasing violence and such, of course it would work Edit: Also, I could see this being implemented more in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:05 PM
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It doesn’t matter if these specific countries are higher up on the global living condition list or whatnot, since there is a huge aspect of cultural implications and glorifications at play. Not to mention the fact that 99% of places that have more sex-tourism (or whatever you want to it) from westerners end up with vastly increased numbers of single mother households and addiction issues just to name two
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 10:48 PM
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To put it simply, imagine being bombarded with womens attention since you turn 18 (and usually way before that) for years on end. Is it really that unexpected that you’d pick and choose and go for the ideal? Even if it’s just looks? Men and women aren’t that different and we usually overlook bad personality when people look really hot (for sex anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 12:37 AM
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That in itself is a standard
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:57 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 08:27 PM
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No I would actually, and have plenty of them. I didn’t say sex is irrelevant but it also isn’t the sole criteria, far from
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:29 PM
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Well to me personally “overly” doesn’t directly imply being socially inept, but maybe that’s a language barrier thing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:27 PM
6

Not at all.. Like I’m personally overly competitive and hate losing, but as a very skilled (if I can say so myself) salesman I’m also good at psychology and talking to people and all that comes with that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:46 PM
13

These virgins are confused af as usual
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:36 PM
4

More like self harm in that sense
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:36 PM
5

No if figured that could be what you meant but in my opinion you also put a bunch of other irrelevant points in there confusing the actual point you were getting at. Anyways it doesn’t matter, I get what you were trying to say
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:12 PM
5

Oh ok so just someone that is socially retarded then? I’m just trying to understand your point
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:17 PM
10

But to me being overly competitive and not realizing social cues seems like two different things. I guess maybe, but also I’d argue that most of these women that are adventurous and competitive aren’t like that to attract men, it’s just who they are as people. I agree that we aren’t that different. And that for every competitive woman, there’s a competitive man, and for every introverted and predictable woman, there’s a introverted and predictable man etc
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 01:44 PM
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No I get the point (I think) which is that in general these things are off putting to men? Correct me if I’m wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 01:31 PM
2

For some reason it has been the opposite for me. Throughout my life it has been very common for “my women” to dabble with oral and touching etc (basically everything except for sex). Usually because its at parties, outdoors, clubs, toilets and so forth. Which makes sex more complicated. At one point it happened so frequently I sort of got this reputation amongst my peers even
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 01:16 PM
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Lol you make it sound like all men have monkey brains and solely look for sex in a partner. I know plenty of men that would love a competitive and adventurous woman, not to mention myself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 01:07 PM
1

Even if I grant you the “less satisfactory” argument, I still vouch for people having the right to explore whatever makes them happy or not. I wasn’t saying just progressive in this aspect but overall, when a society becomes more progressive we can assume these (in my opinion) “outdated views” also decline. It’s true that conservatism and progressivism comes in waves, we will just have to hope that the balance is achieved at some point. I think it’s better simply because what it does is that it …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:52 PM
2

It’s less of a paradox and more of a painfully obvious chain reaction. Of course it’s harder to choose between 100 options rather than 2, but in this case it’s deeper than that. You’re not just choosing between a meal or a movie to see, you’re choosing what experiences to exclude or include in your 1 life (speaking as a atheist). So that’s why morally speaking, I want people to ideally have the freedom to seek out whatever they so choose, as long as it’s not immoral of course, which to me sex is…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:23 PM
1

That’s why I said I could be wrong in my experience. And I humbly strongly disagree. I think that’s a cowardly way of approaching life. More experience is better for a fully nuanced and fairly accessed existence
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:10 PM
1

Just too many body count threads at the moment it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:08 PM
2

Obviously yes. I mean if you get with a virgin than what and who can she compare you with? It only states the painfully obvious. But it’s a non-issue in my opinion And also from my personal experience (this could be totally wrong) I feel like the higher the body count a woman has the MORE loyal she becomes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:05 PM
2

Right, that makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 05:00 PM
3

And you can thank men for that. Men will smash pretty much anything
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 03:32 PM
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I was gonna say that, I never include just oral in my body count and I’m a man. If I did my body count would pretty much triple lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 03:20 PM
3

Facts, these insecure men are just complaining like always. Go join Islam or something brother
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 09:27 PM
1

I feel dirty just reading this. Don’t blame the world for being so unwanted and useless
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 02:34 PM
1

Well I’d argue that most women don’t care about income or status actually. That’s a red pill/incel talking point that just isn’t true anymore (in the west anyway). The women that do care about that are usually a certain type of woman, that is very easy to spot. The majority of women (humans overall) fall in love with the person first, not their materialistic values. Height is a little different because it’s more revolved around pure genetics. It can be argued biologically that women want to pass…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:55 AM
1

No that part is true, lots of men think this way. But their arguments for it are most of the time are bs and illogical. • Is it true that lots of men care about a woman’s body count? YES • Is it true that a woman’s body count should matter to a man? NO (Speaking in generalities)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:36 AM
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You’re misunderstanding me. I know that lots of men think this way, but what lots of people think isn’t indicative of the truth. It just means lots of people tend to believe it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:28 AM
1

That’s not what the data says. In the west anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:19 AM
1

Sure and lots of people believe in gods and stuff. Just because lots of people think a certain way don’t mean it’s right or true
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 01:14 AM
1

If you can’t understand it, I don’t know what to tell you. I could make other analogies to try to prove it to you but I have a feeling you wouldn’t agree regardless. I’m just going by common sense and what my Asian girl friends tell me
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:39 PM
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I love how people think these analogy’s make sense or are true. I can make up any analogy to make whatever statement I want no matter how false it is. I can use analogy’s to make Hitler sound like a good guy lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:05 PM
1

When have I said that? I just said it must be a rather crazy “coincidence” if practically all women I know say the same shit. Also just because you say “take this L” doesn’t mean I’m taking any Ls… what are you 8 years old? If I already took two Ls, I decide you took three, so I win 🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:02 PM
1

I didn’t have to, I wanted to. But it doesn’t matter, maybe you’re vastly successful when it comes to dating or you aren’t. I’d bet my money on the second
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:06 PM
2

And just like that, you’ve expanded your intel
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:02 PM
1

Your experience? Sorry but I checked your profile and saw your complaints about not being successful enough in online dating… GO FIGURE. If you only took my advice, maybe you wouldn’t be struggling to get female attention
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:01 PM
0

Calling wild and creepy things wild and creepy is normal yes, incredible
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:58 PM
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Nope. It’s not what I base it on, but go ahead sip that copium homie
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:58 PM
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How do you know what I base my experience on geographically lmfao… Like I said, I’m considered wildly popular amongst women, and always have been since a kid (don’t care if you believe me or not) and I get the feeling you might not be, but then again it’s just my guess. Best of luck and happy new year
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:57 PM
0

Ah yes, Redditors telling me what is considered normal behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:54 PM
2

Well obviously not… but if all of them have the same fucking complaints it paint a pretty good picture no? But go ahead, don’t listen to me. I’m sure you’re vastly successful when it comes to dating and hooking up💀
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:43 PM
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I suggest you look up the data proving this
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:41 PM
1

Over 50, and 8-10 super close ones Edit: sorry didn’t misread your comment, this is both female and male
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:40 PM
2

As someone who’ve always had many Asian friends and is well versed in the Asian community I disagree. The number one complaint my Asian female friends have is that men fetishize them and and say wild and creepy shit just like you did. Some of my friends started getting hit on when they turned 12~ by old men. They find these things disgusting and off putting which isn’t fucking hard to understand. But go ahead, good luck getting female attention
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:37 PM
2

The two can exist simultaneously
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:32 PM
0

Because you’re taking about adults, not babies. It’s weird, and Asian women would agree with me
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 03:31 PM
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That’s just comes off condescending and objectifying. Creepy vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:08 PM
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Simply not true, Asian women are the most “sought after” when it comes to dating by all races. And I don’t believe for a second that a progressive white woman would date or even come close to dating a stereotypical racist white dude. What your saying about different punishments regarding crime is often true, but that goes for all women as a whole. Maybe it used to slightly be like this, but nowadays I fail to see the accuracy. In most places I’ve encountered, the more “obstacles” you have to you…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:47 PM
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Doesn’t matter, the answer would be the same since this lumps together all Asians
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:22 AM
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Well that’s true, it’s easier getting laid but harder finding long lasting relationships. You don’t even have to be socially gifted initially but with enough trial and errors and experiences usually you’d get there. Whilst “nice guys” usually don’t even give it a try. They stagnate or even deteriorate socially. My body count is in the hundreds but I never treated women bad, I just have my looks, smarts, empathy and easy going personality to thank for it. The hardest part for me is getting women …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 12:08 AM
2

Right. And more often less attractive men feel entitled to attractive women, instead of just lowering their standards. It wasn’t a issue historically (because women didn’t have choice) but today it is and they just have to deal with it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:36 PM
2

The thing with “bad boys” is that they often are light years ahead in terms of being socially gifted. And “good guys” usually have other negative traits like being creepy, strange or overprotective
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:04 PM
2

Yea that’s fucked up. I feel for those women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:57 PM
1

The most effective period. It’s the last line of defense. Not to mention the multiple solutions you could use way before that. So that’s why women don’t (and shouldn’t) care about that if they want to fuck around
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 01:23 AM
5

Ever heard of abortions?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 03:49 PM
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Same logic applies to men who have sex with more partners, the more you engage the higher the odds. But it still doesn’t change the fact that men are way more likely to walk around with untreated STDs. Again, most men don’t like condoms either, some even claim it’s a literal boner killer. And no, I’m a man. With a lot of experience. It’s not “virgin shaming” either because I’m not saying being a virgin is bad or anything, just saying it has its implications when you literally have no sexual expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:50 PM
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The only man that would use that as a argument is a virgin or someone irrelevant to women to begin with. Also men are more likely to walk around with untreated STD’s than women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:14 AM
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So you’re just now figuring out being attractive is beneficial in life for both men and women?🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 12:26 PM
1

Sure. And as a side note, I think people often confuse the most sought after traits with having a-lot of money when it’s more often just being attractive or having a good personality or both
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 12:33 AM
1

Yea well those women are a minority. Listening to too much red pill and incel talking points can easily make you believe otherwise. Most women just seek people on their own level
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 09:28 PM
1

Absolutely but also realistically how many femcels exist in comparison to incels? Men have way lower standards than women generally speaking so I don’t think it’s as relevant for women. Another funny thing is that most incels aren’t actually involuntary celibate, they just don’t want to lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 02:46 AM
1

If that’s true, it’s on them. They need to accept the fact that they are unattractive and not be so spoiled about it. No man is entitled to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 09:16 PM
0

In my opinion (being a man) I see lots of illogical and delusional especially young men that have no experience dating, and all experience talking about it. Dynamics has changed with the years but I think most importantly, men need to realize that people usually date and fuck within their own bracket of attractiveness. If you’re a 3, and you feel entitled to anything over that, you’re going to have way more of a challenging experience. Attractiveness is the true value, not money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:23 PM
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Not if it’s voluntary like a monk for example. But yes, if a man wants to have sex but “can’t” isn’t that what incel means? Definitionally it seems accurate no?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:20 PM
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Not true. A woman saying “I don’t need men” doesn’t mean the exact same thing as a man saying it. Because historically women have been dependent on men to survive hence it implies a whole other meaning than the inverse. Also, I find it hard to believe that a man would be called a predator if he simply said “I don’t need women”. Are monks called predators for that reason? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:13 PM
1

Well it shows that we’re biologically promiscuous or designed to have sex with multiple people regularly. Of course men have higher amounts of testosterone (although women have it as well) but testosterone isn’t the sole reason for why and how people become horny. It’s just a hormone out of many. Yea the link argues that we are naturally promiscuous no? A fluctuating libido is irrelevant, it’s true that women’s hormones levels tend to have more variables whereas mens are usually a more straight …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 03:03 PM
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You think the sexes having similar levels of horniness and the sexes being the same biologically is the same thing? Well for starters you should look up why the penis is shaped the way it is. Or more easily just hang around enough women. https://amp.theguardian.com/uk/2000/sep/03/anthonybrowne.theobserver
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:10 PM
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Lol how convenient you left out this second part of the sentence: “however, it is not clear whether sexual desire is truly gendered or if gender differences are influenced by how sexual desire is operationalized and assessed.” Biologically it doesn’t make sense for humans to not be equally≈ as horny. We know for a fact that our bodies are designed to have frequent sex. And with hundreds possibly thousands of years of women’s sexual oppression it’s obvious lots of women today will still adhere to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 12:35 AM
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Outdated. Here: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11930-014-0027-5
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 04:37 PM
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No sources just repeated red pill and incel talking points
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:43 PM
1

I disagree and all the stats back my opinion. You’re arguing something that isn’t proven psychologically or historically, so the burden on proof is on you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:13 PM
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If you genuinely believe women have lower sex drives you haven’t been around enough women brother 🤭
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 01:27 PM
1

Ofcourse words can emotionally harm both men and women, what’s so shocking about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 12:30 PM
3

Yea that’s a huge chunk of people too, and a lot of the time the people exaggerate the amount of “bad” the other person did
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 10:45 PM
0

Yea well I didn’t say “all” I said “half the time”. Also, I think fuckbois are way more common than the inverse AKA fuckgirls or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:30 PM
0

I don’t know what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:05 PM
2

Oh yea I read it wrong. It’s usually just prior existing resentment towards the opposite sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 05:01 PM
1

Not only but it plays a role. Like you’re going to find way less judgment in people that usually fuck around more
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:48 PM
3

That it’s inexperience?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 04:26 PM
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Inexperience. A fascinating fact about the men that usually only shit on women online are, half the time they’re either kids or older but virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 03:59 PM
2

Use that energy to come up with the next BBL but for dick sizes and become the next mega billionaire
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 01:40 PM
3

I’d say it’s about 30-50% for both sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:47 PM
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And now make a list of male privileges. Most humans have privileges one way or another
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:47 PM
1

The one that wants to
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 05:34 PM
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