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CMVPIBagent/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:39 PM
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Ask Red PillPIBagent/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 06:06 PM
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If he's attracted to you he's a simp for you on some level, he's willing to do things for you that he wouldn't for other people. If he is completely unattracted to you he is unlikely to do any simping for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 11:58 PM
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this assumes attractive ppl can't be abused Well that's implied. If you were attractive and had tons of options and your partner was treating you like garbage the question becomes why aren't you exercising your options the moment your partner tries to abuse you? Assuming as if anyone who doesn't want to do this is incapable of being attracted It's not that they are incapable of being attracted it's that if they were attracted to you they would be slavishly deferential by default. Think of it in …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:54 PM
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The implication is that someone who is truly interested in you wouldn't risk losing you by being abusive. The very fact that a woman is being emotionally abusive is an indicator that she isn't really attracted to you, she's willing to lose you. If you were Chad (aka an attractive male with options) and she attempted to emotionally manipulate you or be abusive and you walked away she would kick herself that she had an attractive Chad interested in her and she ruined it by being abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:05 PM
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The rich elites need the working class more than the working class needs them. Fewer people means less workforce for the corporations to exploit meaning wages have to go up to attract better talent. Infrastructure decays overtime and they will need people to maintain all of it (Elon Musk and Bill gates aren't going to do those jobs themselves). Also these "elites" that control corporations need people to buy their goods and services. Fewer people in general means fewer potential customers. A rea…
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 11:39 PM
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They won't fuck the average man instantly yes but this is CHAD. Everything we know about Chad lore wise says women in general hold out for him and will throw themselves at him if given the chance. He's literally the top of the social hierarchy in terms of men. Women won't risk losing him because of their standards (i.e. women make betas follow the rules but break them for alphas). There have been blackpill tinder experiments done proving this. The guy could be a racist/sexist/pedophile and they …
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 04:28 PM
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That's part of my question, why would a Chad bother to dumpster dive? Yes most men would date and mary a 6 or 7 but this is Chad we're talking about, he could have any woman he wants including the 8 thru 10s. Why sleep with less attractive women when you have access to a higher caliber of woman? It would be like if I had the ability to get a 7 or 8 woman but then opted to sleep with 3s and 4s. It doesn't make sense. If he does it out of necessity it doesn't seem worth it to be him then as you st…
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 01:55 PM
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My original point is that Chads are a small portion of men, and it has to be an even smaller fraction of Chads that are into BBW. There can't be a ton of them so the idea that there are enough Chads with diversified standards sleeping with unattractive women to inflate the entire populations standards/ego is absurd. Are there Chads that are into BBW or Gay porn sure, but not enough to where their sleeping around would affect the taste of a massive population.
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 12:57 PM
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By your logic the fact that gay porn exists would mean that Chads must ALSO be into sleeping with men because men's collective preferences are diverse enough to include gay porn and Chads are ALSO men so therefore they must also be into it. But of course that's not how it works. SOME men are into BBW porn just like SOME men are into gay porn. There is no direct correlation between a specific porn existing and the preferences of an individual group (i.e. Chads).
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 06:23 AM
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There is no connection between BBW porn existing and Chads (specifically Chads) having a diversified preference.
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 04:17 AM
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But he's Chad, in every description of him that I've heard of he has women throwing themselves at him. Women are suppose to be holding out for him. If one says no he has 10 more to take her place. When in*ls cry to the heaven's they say "WOMEN ONLY WANT CHADS!!!". There's not a chance he would have to wait or hold out for anything.
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 12:41 AM
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"Wine and Dine" is what beta chumps do. Why would Chad ever have to wait hours for women who are supposedly ready to throw themselves at him? If you've seen any of the blackpill social experiments done on tinder you'd know he could say "ayy bby u wan sum fuk" to any woman and they would be asking for his address. What you've described is a beta male in Chad's body with a scarcity mentality who is still trying to play by the rules women set.
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 12:30 AM
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I would believe that for the majority of men, but for the guy at the top of the social hiearchy? Your telling me that having women constantly throwing themselves at him wouldn't change his standards to be a little more selective in the slightest? And even if he has low standards, as Chad he has access to the most attractive women around and only so much time in his day. Why would he pick a less attractive woman over her more attractive counterpart?
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 12:20 AM
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He still gets to smash tho. That's enough motivation. Is it tho? Remember Chad is suppose to have really attractive women throwing themselves at him and there are only so many hours in the day so he HAS to prioritize which women he's going to get with. Why would he prioritize sex with plain jane over sex with a Stacy? "Pussy is Pussy" seems like the mentality of a man who doesn't have options. Chad literally has so many options that he can afford to be picky.
/r/AllPillDebate28/09/23 12:10 AM
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"because bitches is sl*ts, thats why" That may be true but he didn't really answer your question. I can understand cheating on a woman who has looks comparable to your current GF. But cheating with a much less attractive woman seems counter productive, What's the logic there? For a man that can supposedly have any woman he wants it's a downgrade, your practically punishing yourself.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 11:58 PM
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That's kind of the point I'm making. If the best you can do as the MYTHICAL CHAD is a 5/10 GF that you still have to bust your ass for it's not worth being him/envying his position. it's not worth it.
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 11:45 PM
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But what portion of Chads (an already small portion of men) have enough of a diversified preference/bad enough taste to go for unattractive women, to the point where the majority of unattractive women have an inflated sense of self importance or ego? Mind you Chad has women all over the 1 thru 10 rating scale throwing themselves at him and only so much time in his day so he has to prioritize which women he fucks with. I can't fathom the mental arithmetic that would make him look at an unattracti…
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 11:38 PM
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Chad going through a dry spell One might wonder what's the point of striving to be like Chad then? If Chad still has to scrape the bottom of the barrel then it hardly seems worth it to be him. Why put in the effort if your status as "Chad" can't filter for the type of women you actually want? At that point your still a beggar, taking whatever scrapes women throw at you. If you still have to dumpster dive when your at the top of your game is it even worth it?
/r/AllPillDebate27/09/23 09:42 PM
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Your premise is faulty, you assume that porn always has a guy and a girl. What if it's two girls? Also what if it's a form of pornography that doesn't have real actors (i.e. computer generated or animated)?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:56 PM
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Hey it's unbanned.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 03:06 AM
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RIP Aug 22th, 2013 - Aug 10th, 2023
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 11:28 PM
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She might marry the rich man but she doesn't actually like him and will divorce him for half when the time comes. Physical attractiveness is a prerequisite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:59 PM
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If money is the deciding factor on you finding a guy attractive, your not really into him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:42 PM
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Honestly seeing a prostitute/escort would be a easier and more honest relationship than what you are describing. No beating around the bush pretending both of you are there for something more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 01:07 AM
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Asking her to go Dutch on a date and watching her reaction is a better filter. The woman who is entitled and expects you to to pay for the meal will be indignant at the fact that you even suggested it and will not go on a second date with you (so mission accomplished). This is better because you find out by the end of the first date if she was in it just for the free food AND you didn't spend a dime on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:36 AM
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What was the age of this woman late teens early 20's?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:37 AM
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I typically agree with the red pill side on a lot of topics but for this I'm not so sure the women are lying. One constant theme that comes up on the women's side regarding dating is safety. In an age of mass shootings where the gunman is often times a social outcast this is even more of a concern. Not every man reacts well to being rejected and women don't know what type of man they are dealing with when they initially approach so it pays to let them down as gently as possible to lessen the pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:28 AM
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Women lose attraction to flesh and blood men when they have to explain anything about what they want but somehow we're suppose to believe that they'll have no problems giving explicit details to a robot and still maintain attraction to it? The Robot: Can't go out and get a job to support you, if anything you support him (maintenance, etc) Has to be explicitly told what to do (and might still do it wrong if it doesn't understand the request) Only does what you tell it to and nothing more (Nothing…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:52 PM
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You could make the entire dating aspect of the Manosphere and things like FDS irrelevant tomorrow if you started giving specific and accurate information to men and women on how to get into and maintain romantic relationships. For the information that you would provide to guys/girls it would have to be extremely detailed and would need to cover topics such as: An honest look at the role that looks plays in dating and relationships An honest look at the role that money plays in dating and relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:45 PM
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The key big mistake that leftists make when trying to make counter advise against TRP is that they give generally unhelpful advise. For example there is a Youtube leftist F.D. signifier that has a few opinions regarding what makes men desirable and the Manosphere in general: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Lzh0XlzIA&t=4591s&ab_channel=F.DSignifier In his stream he goes on an on about what the Manosphere gets wrong about male desirability, etc, etc but when it comes down to what advise he could…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:55 PM
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What's funny about the "Is male virginity a turn off?" question is that when it was originally asked on this sub women's initial responses to it in general was that they did in fact find male virginity to be a turn off past a certain age and then with each subsequent iteration of this question coming up they've collectively modified their responses to be some variation of "it depends on the reason why a man is a virgin". My theory (they would never admit to it) is they still don't like male virg…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:47 PM
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So, PPD, why do men watch porn? Any self-reflection here as to why they might? Because men like sex and looking at naked women /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 05:38 PM
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You don't have to do anything, if she makes demands you don't like, that's when you pick up your masculinity and set boundaries like a REAL man. Ok the boundary is "No Single Mothers". Takes care of everything else on the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:55 PM
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Ask yourself how so many men got involved with the RP community/Manosphere in in the first place and you'd realize how absurd it is to think it's going to just die off. In most circumstances it was because the men involved were given trash advice by society at large when it came to dating/relationships and when they inevitably got burned they went looking for answers and eventually stumbled online where they could compare notes with other men in similar situations. The Manosphere is a symptom no…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:24 PM
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I think the vitriol comes from a certain level of resentment of someone expecting you to compete for them without them having to lift a finger to do the same because they've established themselves as the "prize" (i.e. If you've ever waited for the man to make the first move, or make reservations, or pay for things you've demonstrated "prize" behavior). Being the "prize" is so much easier than being a "competitor" because you don't have to do anything other than pick the winner. The expressions h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 01:34 AM
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Hmm I never thought of it like that. Usually when the saying that men aren't picky comes up it's usually in the context of women having it super easy when it comes to dating and relationships. From that perspective saying there's nothing impressive about women sleeping around with a bunch of men is less about convincing women that sex isn't validating for them and more about reinforcing the narrative that men have it soo much harder at dating than women do. It's the difference between these two …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 08:24 PM
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If a high value guy comes around who for whatever reason didn't have sex yet (and is indifferent about it), she probably won't care If he was really that high value he would have already gotten laid. A woman knows this and will question the reason why if it's not clear he choose to not have sex (i.e. religious reasons or something). It's why they despise male virgins past a certain age, because not getting sex and relationships is an indicator of lesser value to them. ​ If you have internal self…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 03:15 PM
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My point is it's hypocritical of women (in general) to pretend like sex is no big deal (like the OP is doing) and admonish men for caring about it so much when they know it would be a deal breaker if a man they were interested in revealed he was a virgin past a certain age. If sex is "no big deal" why treat the lack of it like a red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:03 PM
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As a woman ask yourself this question: "If a man who was 25 to 30+ years old told me he was a virgin would I still be attracted to him romantically?". For some women that answer may be yes, for the majority the answer will be no. And that's the reason why men are obsessed with sex and dating. Because not getting into dates or relationships and sex past a certain age is a red flag for most women. This might be a shocker to women but average men who don't put in effort (to the point of obsession) …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 04:55 PM
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Being a virgin past a certain age is of course unattractive as it ostensibly implies you’re someone no-one else wanted. That’s the cold hard truth. A then women have the nerve to act like they can't understand why men are so obsessed with getting sex and losing their V-card when it's literally a red flag if you still have it by a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 05:26 AM
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Oh they absolutely listened to women and what women said wasn't matching what they actually pick. That's the problem. Case in point Lady Boners and how this thread started in the first place: Parent comment you responded to says men mistakenly believe women are attracted to Chads but are actually attracted to skinny pale guys In agreement you added that they should check out lady boners, as if that would disprove what men on this sub think Per your advice I legit went over to the Lady Boners sub…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:36 AM
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I don't think you understand the problem that the men on this sub keep underlining. Men will say that women like certain physical attributes and women will straight downplay just how important said physical attributes are if not outright deny that they are a big deal. And then you have subs like Lady boners that cater to the female gaze where literally half or more of the entries feature a dude with his shirt off flexing his abs/chest/biceps/etc and yet you still have women trying to deny/preten…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:47 PM
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Funny you should mention that. A good portion of the men shown on lady boners have their shirts off to reveal their well toned abs and chest muscles. It seems they are more the rule than the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 01:16 PM
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The analogy breaks down if you examine it for more than 2 seconds. Men have never been in the position of "choosers" where women come to them and they either accept or reject their "application". In fact the entire burden of performance is on men. You don't see companies in general trying to justify why they are worth working for, rather you see candidates who have to justify why they would be an asset to the company. The analogy makes more sense if you see women in the position of employers doi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 12:46 PM
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In nature any male that could catch you could rape you if you didn't have protection (either in the form of a weapon or another male to defend you). Nature won't care if that's how his genes pass on as long as they do pass on, he would be considered just as successful in an evolutionary sense as the guy who had to convince you to sleep with him. That's the problem with making appeals to nature/natural selection, it can get ugly real fast. The whole point of a society is to take people out of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 05:09 PM
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you must be able to have vulnerable conversations without being judgmental ​ There are a lot of women who can't even do that. It's why you often hear about guys not being vulnerable with their partner because they fear it'll get thrown back in their face at the first sign of a fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 02:30 PM
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“The truth always comes out” is nonsense That just means it hasn't happened yet
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:25 PM
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Tell them the truth. If he's not willing to accept that aspect about you then he's not the one. There are billions of men right, so you just have to find the one that will be willing to wait for you while you sleep around with other men. If anything this seems like a perfect vetting tool. Rather than tricking a man whose going to have problems with it when it eventually comes out you get one that's ok with it from the start. ​ As for going full Puritan or full slut, no. I’m going to continue doi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:00 PM
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Imagine a scenario where a woman caught her partner lying to her about a significant aspect of his character and when confronted about it he tried blaming it on the nature of women at large. He would unquestionably be wrong, no matter what came out of his mouth it would be seen as an excuse. Any attempt he makes at trying to underplay it (i.e. its not that big a deal honey) comes off as gaslighting. Also if he lied about this fundamental aspect of himself what else has he lied about? The relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 07:37 PM
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In this scenario if you are sleeping around with Mark then you ARE easy. The fact that you are trying to convince Dylan that your not means your lying to him about your very nature which is disrespectful. I doubt most women would accept a guy who would lie about a fundamental aspect of their character so why do you expect men to? Either go full puritan or be honest and go full slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:07 PM
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I'll concede that woman can have dating issues. As to if its on the level of what men experience that's still up for debate. You might say that should have been obvious from the beginning but I remember a time back mid to late 2000's before the Manosphere's collective influence started seeping into other parts of the internet and society at large. All of the major groups (incels, mgtow, PUA, TRP) would have agreed that women had it super easy dating and the lack of any oppositional voices simply…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 10:20 PM
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The funny part about the majority of the women's responses in this thread is if the genders had been reversed and their boyfriends were disapproving of their hobbies and sited self-interested reasons as to why (i.e. "it keeps her in shape which is a plus for me" or "it makes more money that I can use") they would be scolded by the larger community for being unsupportive partners and the women would be told to dump them in favor of partners that are more supportive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:35 AM
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The primary reason people date is to find a partner. Why? Because they are biologically driven to find one. It just so happens to be that dating is the socially acceptable way to do that currently. Good for the happiness for the individual but not for the long term health of the society they live in. What happens when there aren't enough people to fill the critical roles that society needs in order to function? Sex is a biological imperative, it will happen regardless of if society stigmatizes i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:01 AM
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Again there's a reason sexual attraction evolved. It's because children are resource intensive and time consuming and there needed to be incentive to reproduce, a carrot at the end of the biological "stick" in order to make the whole system work. Take that incentive away and it crumbles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 11:32 PM
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They could still have sex, but would they? The whole process of dating and courtship is a pain in the ass for everyone (just ask the dating related communities on reddit). The reason people even bother with it is because of their biological/sexual urges. In this new society the whole process is now a time consuming obligation/chore required to maintain the population of the species and keep civilization going. To add to it going through the process could leave you in worse shape mentally\physica…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 06:22 AM
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I'd make it so that women's attractiveness is directly tied to their personality. The nicer they are on the inside the more attractive they will look on the outside. This would have the ability to change overtime. ​ edit: and visa versa
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:12 PM
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Let's be honest, guys with this mentality are always miserable because they are constantly comparing themselves to every other man and they always find someone better than them. It's miserable to be them and miserable to hang out with them as a friend because they make everything a dick measuring contest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 08:39 PM
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This children's prank is just one of a type of "romantic humiliation" pranks that children of both genders participate in: Fake asking to be someone's boyfriend/girlfriend Telling one child that the target child likes them in hopes of the target being brutally rejected Telling another child "That's why you like X". This is a twofer as it gets the target to frantically deny it (to save their image) and give a brutal rejection whoever X is (usually X is unpopular for various reasons) Writing a fak…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 04:41 AM
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It's a joke don't be such a stick in the mud. Updated my previous message so it's more obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:37 PM
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Well you said your a virgin so your not fucked at all. /jk
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:52 PM
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Even in a world where women have everything they rely on men heavily to maintain their lifestyle. As long as that's true men will never be obsolete (despite what some women's circles might say), which is the point of the post. All the whining you hear from women about how terrible men are you'd think some of them would have formed a thriving society on their own (I emphasis thriving as there are a few female-centric communities living in grass hunts in Africa which I wouldn't consider thriving).…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:31 PM
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Confidence works best when the person already finds you attractive on some level (i.e. you've saved them the guesswork of figuring out if you are into them). In fact this is the unspoken premise for the meme "Be attractive, don't be unattractive". ​ This doesn't mean that it can't work for a bridge troll (there's always the chance that she encounters a man that was interested in her from the start in which case her confidence saved him a step). But if we're being honest it won't help the bridge …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:23 PM
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I can see this post being referenced some time in the future on a different sub with a title like "Men Lie about what they find attractive" wherein some unattractive woman after reading the replies to this post saying that confidence is important decides to get up her courage to ask a man out only to be brutally rejected and then goes crying to a very specific female sub saying how "men aren't being honest about what they want, blah blah" etc. So I'm going to do a slightly different response jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 08:25 PM
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The narrative I've always heard (as stated by women themselves) is that each woman is unique when it comes to what they want and desire with sex as such that what gets one woman off will not work for another. Assuming that this is true staying with a single woman would only figure out what works for that one woman. If the relationship doesn't work out the guy is back to square one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 05:31 AM
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Every woman claims Feminism in some form or fashion but only to a fault. For a lot of them the second having equality/being equal becomes inconvenient they swap back to traditionalist values. There's an old Manosphere colloquialism that reads "There are no Feminists on a sinking ship". It's an apt description for the type of fair-weather-equality that these women practice. So is tradfem. They only accept equality when its beneficial to them which I believe is the point that the user above is mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 09:38 PM
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I'm perfectly willing to accept that every man is a misogynist. Makes it less of a character flaw unique to any one man if every man is like that on some level. Guess hetero women will have to choose between dating a misogynist or dying alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/20 04:50 AM
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There's already a place for debate, its called /r/PurplePillDebate. ​ I'm not all that unsympathetic to men. Only mostly. ​ Don't flatter yourself, you created a 2nd sub because you wanted somewhere where you could argue with men but at the same time have the authority that comes with being a mod so that people play nice on your terms. ​ We have no investment in your approval so we will tell you the truth for better or for worse ​ Yeah people don't create entire subs when their not invested. ​ P…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:11 PM
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The women who post here do so because they like to argue. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 08:00 PM
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If masculinity truely died out women would be the first ones to complain about it's loss: ​ "Why are there no more REAL men" "Men have become soft, what happened?" "Men no longer make the first move/pay for dates/ do traditionally masculine roles, etc" ​ Hell they already complain about it for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:48 PM
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No, parasites are profiteers, arguably it's harder to feed and keep your host alive than to just eat them Real parasites don't feed their host that's why their called parasites. If they actually offered any kind of benefit their relationship to their host would be symbiotic rather than parasitic. ​ But if someone runs a social security benefit scam for himself and 30 of his relatives Parasites, by nature, wouldn't be working that hard and provides for nobody but themselves. They just take withou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 02:43 PM
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a safe predictable dopamine drip that simulate actual fun Fun is fun regardless of if it's real or simulated. One might even argue that simulated fun is superior because the risks are also simulated. Do do something dangerous in real life and screw up your dead. Do that same action in a simulated environment (i.e. a video game) and your still alive to ponder what went wrong. ​ Parasites are pretty kickass, that wasp fungus is hardcore - gotta admit that Parasites are slackers by definition. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 02:51 PM
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>When you only feel like you interact with women through porn, you’re going to associate women with sex and not much else. ​ You said earlier that porn sets male expectations too unrealistically high. If this is to be believed isn't it more likely that the majority of women would be seen as non-sexual entities (rather than as sex objects) because they do not meet the standards set by porn in the males mind? ​ >His expectations make him terrible in bed ​ His expectations would not change even if …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 04:12 AM
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Typically I'd say no. But after seeing how threatened cam girls are of a cartoon I'm starting to think it's not totally out of the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 12:58 AM
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Oh there are plenty of butt-ugly women who behave in the same fashion and expect the same kind of treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 12:27 AM
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She's still low value its just less obvious. She's only brought to the table what nature gave her. Men would be so luck to just have to show up and everything gets done for them. Hell some women who aren't really all that hot still try the "just show up" method and often times it works for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 12:23 AM
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Ask a cam girl why she thinks she has so many subscribers and your almost certain to get a response along the lines of "it's my personality" or "I fulfill an emotional connection, etc". These are things that machines (at least at this point in time) are not really able to do. That said the fact that there is such a panic surrounding animated cam girls makes me question just how true sentiments like the ones listed above really are. If their subscriber base was mostly there because of their perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 12:02 AM
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In the same vain you could also ban any porn showing violence in our little thought experiment and LVW would still hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:40 PM
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That's my point. If the man is: Asking her out Paying for all of the dates (let's be honest many women expect men to pay for every date) Always beginning starting the communication Is now expected to think about contraception Has to broach the subject of going steady Pays the rent ​ And all she's doing is: ... 1. Dressing up ( she would have done this anyway because she doesn't want other women bad mouthing her) 2. Expected to think about contraception ​ Then yeah its pretty one-sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:23 PM
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I'm against the porn industry because I worked in the industry myself and ended up seeing it for what it was: rife with abuse, trafficking, rape, drug addiction and coercion. Even people who openly enjoy porn are starting to see how fucked up the industry is, especially with what's coming out about PornHub and online streaming sites lack of age verification / filmed rape, etc. The point I'm making is that even if you reformed the porn industry completely (even to a hypothetical point where every…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 11:04 PM
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Objectification, viewing women as objects for a guy’s sexual cravings instead of actual humans, isn’t going away because the women in the video are fictitious. Its not going away even if you got rid of all the porn, the men who have a tendency to think that way will think like that regardless. Porn isn't magically going to make a guy go "You know I've always thought of women as actual humans but I think I'll give this objectification thing a chance". Neither will the opposite happen where a guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 10:48 PM
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As for porn, it makes men losers, demotivated, low energy, potatoes. As do games, movies - or anything that does not involve you making a move, conquering some fools and being a man. So doing things that are fun makes you a "loser"? If that's the case being a "winner" sounds pretty miserable. You are a beast. You are forged by nature to kick ass You were forged by nature to survive. Are you going to say surviving IS kicking ass? It's really not, a parasite is amazingly adapt at surviving (they o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 10:16 PM
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Lol so according to you women who act in porn are HVW and women who oppose it are LVW. It's low value of a woman who judges other women for their occupation/lifestyle It decreases the pleasure that women experience. Hardly any woman wants to be chocked, spat or slapped during sex and yet it's normalized. More and more woman are realising how fucked up these practises are and there is no fault with these women choosing to distance themselves from men who watch them. You would still hate porn even…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 06:04 AM
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What exactly is a low value woman? Not hot? A woman who offers nothing but expects the world to be handed to her. She can be hot or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 05:32 AM
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That's just another way of saying: "people that agree with me are <insert positive trait> and people who disagree with me are <insert negative trait>" You call them low value only because you don't agree with their lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 05:13 AM
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I never said LVW didn't have power or would somehow run out, only that they lost power (a tiny fraction of it) with the proliferation of internet porn. As with most people who have power losing even a tiny sliver of it is unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 04:59 AM
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Is the woman wanting to be his only fuck doll some "problem" or defect. It is if she's on some controlling shit. ​ This is the leading cause for why women gravitate towards men that display hypersexual tendencies for a good fuck - whether it's actually "good" or not. Usually men fucking LOTS of real women, surprise surprise. They don't come off like "asexuals that love to jerk-off". ​ With the amount of women always complaining about how much men are "such horn dogs", you'd think that they would…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 04:53 AM
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no SMV4\5 woman gives a shit about porn or sex robots in that way. ​ Until they do (aka human cam girls vs ProjektMelody)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 04:44 AM
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And yet "It increases men's expectations" is listed as one of the reasons as to why porn is bad. If this point is to be believed then porn essentially filters out undesirable partners for women, it would be a good thing (for women) in that respect. Just have nothing to do with any man who watches porn. I have it on good authority (from certain female centered subs) that there are plenty of men who don't watch porn out there to choose from. And even if you banned all of the violent porn and any p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 04:39 AM
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objectification/exploitation would seem to be moot points if you banned porn that had real actors in it as it would be virtual at that point. Nobody real would suffer as a result of its production. In the same vain you could also ban any porn showing violence in our little thought experiment and LVW would still hate it. As for causing unrealistic expectations and beliefs why are women so interested in thought-policing men? If a man decides to base his expectations off of something like porn he h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 04:26 AM
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You would think so and it does seem like this would be an edge that would always keep any real woman at a competitive advantage over something like an animated cam girl. Yet here we have human cam girls freaking out over a cartoon, essentially being scared of competition that should otherwise be in the bag. Makes you question just how much "talking in real time" plays in keeping their count up if its that easy to take subscribers away from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 04:07 AM
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Sexual expectations aside why wouldn't they welcome something that dampens male arousal via increasing it's overall threshold that it takes to reach arousal? Men are called horndogs all the time so that seems like a net positive for them if men in general are less horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/20 03:57 AM
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If women dominated the planet, there would be no wars Why? Because women are infallible creatures who are never violent or antagonistic? To conflict is to be human lady. Women would ensure that everyone is paid fairly. There would be no homeless people. And there would be no abuse. As if women can't be racist or hold discriminatory views that would facilitate abuse along some religious, ethnic, or national line. Power corrupts regardless of gender. Next you'll be telling us that women don't take…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 09:53 PM
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These are two different types of red flag, and even then the girl who has slept with 17 guys is still the bigger red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 12:40 AM
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Moral ITT: NEVER tell a woman your a virgin and if asked flat out deny it (lie if you have to).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 07:18 AM
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The real question is are there actually women out there who would pay a man to have sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 05:47 AM
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TRPers are the biggest misogynists out there and they naively believe that traditional monogamous marriages bring more happiness than fucking around. TRPers (in general) are decidedly anti-marriage, what TRPers are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 09:11 AM
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But its not a dead give away that someone is a virgin, just that they don't know what they're doing.plenty of non-virgin men are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 01:53 AM
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It’ll be obvious that you’re lying when you get in bed and don’t know what you’re doing. Will it? This seems to assume that everyone who does have sex knows what they're doing which from what I've heard a lot of women will disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 10:28 PM
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if some overweight 4/10 Becky Butterface baked a ton of cookies for you and did your homework and was sweet to you every day, but then Stacy Sexpot walked up and said "sup fuckboy, let's go back to my place." You would pick Stacy. I'd honestly be suspicious of Stacy's intentions since its out of the ordinary. If I had assurance that she wasn't setting me up to get my organs harvested then you might be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 10:20 PM
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first thing she would think was that her looks were holding her back somehow Quite a number of women's first reaction is to claim that men don't approach them because they are too intimidating/demanding/strong and empowered.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 05:01 PM
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Honestly, do you know what life is like as a Plain Jane? That's the problem isn't it? We don't see what Ms Plain Jane's life looks like and because we don't hear about it like we do for men's dating issues (TRP, MGTOW, Incel, etc) we assume everything is gumdrops and ice cream. If we DO hear a woman's complaint about dating it usually boils down to "Wah, I haven't had sex in two weeks" or "I'm sooo tired of getting hit on all the time". No man is going to take those things seriously because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 07:35 AM
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If you want a hot woman, you have to have something else to offer her. Money. That's why it is a fair exchange. If its just a transaction why are the majority of women so against the concept of prostitution? Is it because they KNOW they are overpriced and that regulation would actually drive down the cost? If someone doesn't know the true value of something based on a existing market you could charge them almost anything. You got your hot girl, now you're complaining about her being with you for…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 06:08 AM
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So men, how many of you clean up after yourselves? How many men here cook? How many dad's in here help with child care? I don't own a lot of stuff so my living space is never that messy. Bathroom is no more than 20-min clean, I can cook a variety of recipe's and just recently learned how to make a mean spicy fried chicken, and I have no children that I would have to take care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/18 07:54 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/18 06:14 PM
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They seem to hate attention-whoring hypergamous sluts so they should try dating women who don't wear makeup or nice clothes, however, they love femininity so they are attracted to women who wear makeup and nice clothes. So only women who wear makeup and nice clothes can be hypergamous sluts? That's a rather negative stereotype to have on other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 04:50 PM
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Now of course a case can be made that on some level the patriarchy wants women to be uncomfortable to "put them in their place" Trust me if men wanted to make women uncomfortable we would do it in a direct and unmistakable manner (i.e. female genital mutilation or foot binding). but I really do think that men are more intolerant of physical discomfort than women on average There are quite a few occupations that range from uncomfortable to downright dangerous (i.e. solider, coal miner, garbage ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 09:22 AM
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Um, cause AWALT. It's in the memo.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 08:54 AM
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Obviously women on this sub and others related to TRP will be careful regarding questions like the one above as they don't want to play into the stereotype. If we really wanted to prove AWALT we would ask the question on a sub that doesn't have as big of an incentive to hide/lie or edit their response in a way as to not confirm RedPill concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 03:29 AM
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It doesn’t and they don’t. A) It doesn't matter if you think it does/does not help them with their sexual strategy, the fact is the information that is given by TRP is directed specifically at men and it's focus is on sexual strategy. B) No part of classic TRP was ever designed to advise or render help/assistance to women. C) Even if it was since when do women follow any advice that RPers give.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 01:19 AM
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5 years. Last I checked TRP was about helping men with their sexual strategy. It said nothing about giving women advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 08:20 PM
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And as much as the men here try to advice women to basically be the more available beta bitch of the relationship We do?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 05:12 PM
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It’s usually stuff like whistling, saying mmm or hey baby, doing a kissy face/noise, etc. It’s not harassment pretty sure whistling/kissy faces/noises fall under the physical gestures part of harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 10:36 PM
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communicate unease in a way that makes him feel bad and leave them alone. This only works if the guy ISN'T a sociopath that's planning on hacking you to pieces and sticking you in a fridge. If you honestly thought he was that big of a threat you wouldn't bother trying to embarrass him at all (you would be running away screaming). Imagine a guy verbally abusing a woman that isn't that quick to pick up on social ques by calling her a fat, ugly, hambeast and then trying to justify it by saying she …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 08:39 PM
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If you recall a few years ago there was a video released called "10 Hours of Walking in NYC as a Woman": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1XGPvbWn0A This video made me question if catcalling was really as prevalent as some women claim for a number of reasons. The first is that out of supposedly 10 hours of walking she only had enough catcalling to make a video that's just short of 2 minutes. The second is that of the guys that are "catcalling" her I would only count 2 guys as actually harassing …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 08:26 PM
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Lets look at it another way. If he really was a threat does it make sense for a woman to insult him to his face (as women often do with the term creep)? That's how you know the term isn't for protection at all but rather for shaming. If you honestly thought he was a threat you would put as much distance as possible between him and you while saying as little as possible to keep the situation from escalating and becoming more dangerous. The way many women use it today (i.e. either calling a guy a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 08:06 PM
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now this guy didn't do anything on purpose but he still acted unintentionally creepy. it's just a lack of social awareness. That's exactly my point. Its not that he's acting in a way that shows his intentions are bad or actually doing anything that is harming someone else its that his lack of social awareness offends someones sensibilities and they lash out at him as a result. The term in that regards is not about actually protecting women from harm but about penalizing men who are less than soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 05:59 PM
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So basically any woman who has had the experience of someone stalking them is going to get dismissed. Have fun dating unattractive women. Are you saying only beautiful women have experience being stalked? Do unattractive women not experience harassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 06:32 AM
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Either way both terms "slut" and "creep" are used to shame their intended target and men (at least on reddit) find more insult in being called a creep than a douche. In addition the term creep does not always accurately represent the actions or behavior of the guy the label is being applied to (a woman can call a man creepy just because she doesn't like the way he looks without him doing anything to otherwise earn the title). The term is less about protecting women and more about shaming men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 06:13 AM
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Duly noted
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 05:50 AM
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The personal is political. Even if you don't think so you’re making a statement in how you deal with those injustices that come up in your daily life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 05:08 AM
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I can't tell you the number of women I've heard complain about their reputations being ruined based off of just the accusation of being a slut (i.e. oh she slept her way to the top, she gets around, etc) and that's just in America. In some other (less developed) places in the world such accusations could get you killed. Let me just say being called a douche has never gotten someone stoned to death in the Biblical sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 04:56 AM
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Let me ask you something, If you had been alive at the start of the women's equality movement (marching for the right to vote, to earn a wage, etc) would you have been one of the women who got a picket sign and went out into the street to march or would you have thrown up your hands and said "It sucks that I have to be less comfortable just because some people are rude, but c’est la vie"? The only people who are ok with the status quo are those who benefit from it in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 04:24 AM
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the term "douche" does not carry the same type of stigma that the word "slut" does. The term "creep" however can potentially get you beat up by over zealous white knights or questioned by the authorities and therefore is much more equivalent in its potential consequences. In addition the term "creep" has a wide variety of meanings depending on the woman you ask and can range from mildly annoying to threatening.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 04:05 AM
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Of course not. Exactly, she shouldn't have to change herself/her clothes just to appease someone else's delicate sensibilities. So why should a guy have to change anything about himself in order to not be labeled a creep by people who's delicate sensibilities he has offended?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 01:36 AM
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It does though... it says she fucks a lot of guys indiscriminately. it's literally all about her actions. You and I both know that there are guys out there who will call a girl a slut without evidence just because she isn't doing something he wants her to do. It has NOTHING to do with her personality or actions its just the guy using the term to attack her. have teenage sisters and I've seen them call guys creeps on several occasions. it has always pertained to the guy's actions... he stares at …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 01:27 AM
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But if it bothers her and there’s something she can do about it, she should. And if she doesn't she's asking for it right? Your line of thinking is exactly why slut-walks is even a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 01:12 AM
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Being creepy is bad though, it's antisocial behavior. Standing too close to someone, ignoring body language/discomfort; why shouldn't this kind of anti-social behavior be discouraged? A guy doesn't have to do any of the things you listed to be slapped with the creep label, that's the point. In addition being a rapist or a pedophile is illegal (both of these actually cause harm to people), being "creepy" as you've described it does not. You putting creepy on the same level as rape and pedophilia …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 01:01 AM
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There's a term for that.... Its called victim-blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 10:51 PM
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if that many women are calling you a creep to your face, you have to reconsider your approach. Yeah and a woman who dresses like a slut and is called a slut as a result should reconsider their wardrobe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 10:34 PM
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The term creep says nothing about the character of the guy or his actions. It instead attributes a bad connotation to him based on the woman's negative feelings about him. An example of this in reverse is when a guy calls a woman a slut. It says nothing about her actual personality or actions but it carries stigma with it that others can shame her with. If you believe that slut-shaming is bad then by extension you would also believe creep-shaming is bad for similar reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 10:23 PM
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what is the correct way to use the word “creep” and why? Imagine a guy asking the correct way to use the word "slut" when referring to a woman. Despite her actions do you think people would condone the use of said word or condemn it as judgmental slut-shaming? With that in mind the correct answer to your question is never/ no correct way because it is judgmental creep-shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 10:07 PM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 05:34 PM
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You don't value marriage and you are trying to devalue it. How so? All I've done is point out what marriage is in a legal sense and highlighted the fact that women who are marriage-minded have few reasons outside of financial gain to really push for it. BP likes to tell us that marriage is about love and acceptance, living with and taking care of our partners, and all that other hallmark bullshit but the truth is you can have all of that without marriage as it is currently recognized. Women who …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 08:04 AM
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Low N count, agreeable, likes to cook and clean, slender and pretty. These traits are not guaranteed to only be found in women who are marriage-minded. Marriage from a legal perspective is a contract (state recognized license to be exact) with legal ramifications. Anything else that you could associate with it are things that can be had without a contract. A woman who wants a name on the dotted line (marriage license) has very little reason to want it other than securing financial rewards either…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 07:11 AM
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I've always wondered what makes a woman marriage material? What traits do they have that are guaranteed to not be found in women who don't consider marriage necessary?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 06:41 AM
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What is laughable is where they say that the same qualities make them attractive to a marriage minded woman after they've had their fun. Even if those qualities didn't make them more attractive as marriage partners TRPers are decisively anti-marriage so why would it matter to them if marriage-minded women didn't find them attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 05:41 AM
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Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear. something something stabs heart 3 times
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/18 05:31 AM
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Leadership of the good guys are all women. Leadership of the bad guys are all men. This could just be a coincidence, or it could be because the writers wanted to portray how men can be bad leaders, and women can be good ones. There is nobody walking around thinking that all male leaders are good, not even men themselves. Everyone already knows men can be bad leaders so who are they trying to convince?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 06:54 AM
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Why bring up men's deception when women do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 04:43 PM
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en develop scientific schools of deception to advertise reproductive value by conforming to social values, when there is no intrinsic connection between the two- through deceptive dominance mimicry taught by schools like the RP, men are able to posture as having reproductive value in a real biological sense when in fact they do not Both genders practice deception when it comes to advertising reproductive value. Any women that puts on makeup is being deceptive as they are faking more beauty (i.e.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 06:31 AM
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This sort of throws a wrench into their evolution cult of advancement, unless their idea of a higher organism yet-descended from man is such an organism. Evolution isn't about advancing its about survival, and those two terms are not always one in the same. With natural selection being the only guide a creature can evolve traits that are beneficial for it in one moment that then become detrimental for it the next depending on the wimps of natural selection (i.e. environmental change, disease, ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 06:24 AM
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I never said shrews couldn't find boyfriends, just that men are more lenient with them when they are hot. The amount of shrew-ish shit you get away with is proportional to how hot you are. If you are as unattractive as Big Red or Trigglypuff people will outright mock you for your boorish behavior. If either of these two had been attractive people would have brushed it off as their right to be bitchy hot women and neither would have gone as viral has they did. Make no mistake, leniency is granted…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 07:07 PM
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If men actually did hate these women they would not be nearly so lenient with them. Men are lenient with these types of women when they are hot. Try being ugly and a shrew and you end up a meme like Big Red or Trigglypuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 06:23 PM
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all of her exes are also my acquaintances and only one of them looks somewhat similar to me, but is still much better looking and is a girl. I'm curious, if only one of her exes was similar to you what did the others look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 02:36 AM
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My theory is ugly women you've seen and banged are just above the threshold of your visual-attractiveness spectrum. The closer a girl is to the lower threshold of the spectrum the more unattractive she appears to you. Women below said threshold are rendered invisible, your mind filters them out and when interacting with them your in auto-pilot mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 04:14 PM
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Fake gamer/nerd girls make that sort of hard don't they. They don't have to really know anything about the games themselves but they capitalize on a niche market utilizing their looks. Unattractive girl's may be able to scrounge together a couple of guys that have low standards but being a nerd queen is out of the question with the type of competition she faces. btw I'm a guy, decided to be contrarian for a change.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 04:03 PM
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It's the first time I've ever heard of the term and your right, not sure why a woman would put up with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:51 PM
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Its a problem for them in that they can't relate to normal women because they don't have the experience. It's another reminder of how abnormal it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 03:50 PM
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And many thought themselves justified in doing so (i.e. exposing Chad worshipers/women who only chased chads to the detriment of everything else). I won't say what they did was good but I do see their thought process. For the longest time they've been told how good women had it when it comes to dating from a variety of sources (these sources often times including women themselves). Then suddenly you have women claiming they are having trouble getting men's attention despite all of the other sour…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 06:51 PM
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I typically agree with TRP on a good number of things so I'm not sure what your referring to when you say "you people". You can check my posting history if you have any doubts. I'm not saying feel sorry for un-attractive women or that we should really do anything to make their lives better. I'm just exploring and testing our theories as TRPers because that's what makes our arguments stronger. If we can't do that we have no business participating in a debate sub. If you were to boil down my entir…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 06:43 PM
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I'm the OP, while men could be accused of setting the narrative women often times play into the narrative themselves. Some humblebrag about the number of guys that approach them (i.e. there are just SO MANY guys that approach me and its annoying). Guys think "If she's the norm then women must not be doing so bad". You can also attribute the strength of the narrative in part to the reluctance of un-attractive women to speak out more frequently. If you remember ForeverAloneWomen sub they use to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 06:15 PM
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I'm shocked OP finds it such a revelation. Well it is and clearly I'm not alone in finding this to be such a big revelation or else the "women can get a man if they want one" meme wouldn't be as prevalent as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:56 PM
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That kind of women does poison the well as far as dialog but she isn't the female incel I'm referring to. The ones I'm referring to: fall below the majority of guys visual attractiveness spectrum. Below this spectrum they are invisible and only become visible when guys are forced to interact with them after which point they become invisible again. Those times they do come into men's visual focus they incite an automatic cringe/gag-reflex. If your thinking you would remember something like that b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:48 PM
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How would you like to be emasculated by circumstances and situation? As much as men hate being emasculated I think women hate the female equivalent of it just as much. You say welcome to being a man but they don't really want to be a man. So being forced into a situation where they have to fem(emasculate) themselves in order to make any kind of dating progress is kind of brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:36 PM
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One of the things that often times comes up in the ugly girl forum is how guys are willing to sleep with them but are embarrassed to be seen with them, they don't introduce them to friends and family and typically avoid being seen with them in public. From their perspective its not about the sex, its about being claimed by the guy they are dating. And yes getting sex with a more attractive partner than themselves is a foreign concept to most men, however when said partner is not even willing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:28 PM
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A woman having to approach a man herself might be inglorious, but you're still succeeding of your own merit. A woman having to make the first move is admitting that she is less womanly than other women because women don't have to approach men, especially if they are attractive. It's even worse if she makes the first move and is rejected cause it means she failed at being a woman and has nothing to show for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:17 PM
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I've never met a woman that would have a hard time finding any sort of male attention. What if its because we can't see them. We like to think that our senses are infallible but what if our male mind creates a visual spectrum for potential partners and filters out anybody lower than a certain threshold. With this in mind you could very well see all the women you would consider unattractive (i.e. close to your attractiveness threshold) getting dates and relationships and would in essence never me…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 05:07 PM
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Imagine if you would attempting to hire prostitutes because your having trouble getting it any other way. Now imagine those prostitutes straight up reject you (they don't get the money but for them its a small price to pay to not have to sleep with you). I get the feeling that its a similar scenario to the ugly girl approaching attractive men for sex. We tend to assume that the 10/10 Chad will have no problem boning a woman who is less than stellar, but you have to ask yourself why would he? Cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 04:52 PM
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And yes I understand that "0o0oh girls don't like that...that isn't how women operate...it's a "girling fail" to have to approach a man" I think it might be a little more than that. I get the impression that this girl fail is on the level of a guy hiring prostitutes to have sex with him because he can't get it otherwise, its something they would rather take to the grave than admit that they had to do it. That's just speculation though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 04:36 PM
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The whole notion of the SMV and men approaching women is based on the idea that men see all women clearly. But what if our minds intentionally filtered out women who are less attractive than our visual spectrum? I've run into numerous posts like this one (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/2s3say/do_unattractive_women_really_feel_completely/) where the guy doesn't see unattractive women unless they are pointed out to them, this one in particular is told from the guys perspective. Many of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 04:29 PM
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There are women out there who say they are alone when in fact they simply cannot get chad, that's not under question. That said the ugly women can also see those same type of women and from what I can tell its insulting to them when women who can get a boyfriend but only wants a guy who is "six feet tall with a six figure income" talks as if they are truly alone. The antics of those type of women poisons the well so to speak making us (men) less sympathetic to the whole lot and re-enforces the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 03:52 PM
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Typically I would agree with you but I'm having a hard time accepting that for the stories and accounts in the given link. Their sadness and frustration seem genuine, like they really have been dealt a bad genetic hand. What would they gain from lying? I would imagine that someone who is faking it would slip up at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 07:06 AM
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Typical RomCom love interest for the (female) main character is usually higher up on the socio-economic latter than she is (i.e. corporate CEO, well-known politician, etc) in addition to being attractive. Using your logic we could surmise that RomComs plays to a woman's hypergamous nature in wanting a partner higher in the social tier than she herself is therefore contributing to the unrealistic standards women in general have about the status level of the type of men they can attract. Of course…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 03:15 AM
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Or are you going to wife up a fat ugly and lazy woman and love her unconditionally? In his defense there are betas that do that, mostly because they don't have better options so they have no other choice but to love her unconditionally. Also you have to prove to the opposite sex that you are worth a damn. That sounds a lot more Blue Pill than Red. Red Pill advises to hold a NGAF attitude which seems rather impossible to do if your bending over backwards to "prove" your worth to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 07:49 AM
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What used to be called "love" is now labeled "oneitis" like a disease..even if it's the thing that could keep someone crawling over broken glass to hold their lover's hand. If it has you willing to crawl over glass its clearly not healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:58 PM
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There's also a lack of empathy for the female experience. That tends to happen when your always hearing about how good the other side has it and the sentiment isn't new or limited to TRP. Read any of the old PUA books like The Mystery Method and they often times explicitly state that women have the advantage when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 06:34 AM
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Well I try.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 01:26 AM
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Why couldn't it have become globally prevalent say, 300 years ago? Or prevalent across Eurasia 3000 years ago and prevalent globally later? Because mutations are genetic and can only be passed on from one generation to another. This means its only transferable when an individual reaches sexual maturity and then successfully reproduces. If you take into account the the average human lifespan (let's say 70 years) over the course of 300 years that's only about 4 generations or 70 years for each per…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 09:26 PM
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Yeah ok But like another redditor said you'd have to explain the evolutionary advantage of having a creature who is exclusively homosexual and therefore would never willingly reproduce. Not saying there isn't one as it might have come about out of a need to cooperate with other members of the species. Speaking of which: what if we could isolate the mutations, and ensure they don't recur in future generations? I wouldn't recommend it if only because the mutation could be interacting with other ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:31 PM
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I disagree with Every year it seems to get harder and harder to do anything fresh/creative, or to contribute anything valuable and At some point, it seems like only the world's cognitive super-elites and the world's hyper-talented people will be able to contribute anything. It doesn't matter if what you contribute is fresh/creative or original since that's not where the value lies. In fact being 100% fresh/creative can bite you in the ass because people are creatures of habit. The true value lie…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:13 PM
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I'll let you in on a little secret. True original or unique ideas scare people. Just look at how people react throughout history whenever a revolutionary idea that doesn't fit the existing narrative is introduced. In fact the majority of our media are remakes, sequels, and stories that Frankenstein a bunch of existing properties together.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 05:35 AM
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apparently humans and domesticated sheep are the only mammalian species which displays exclusive homosexuality I must be missing something, could you elaborate on what you mean when you say exclusive homosexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 05:14 AM
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Please see the following post on this precise discussion from a month ago. Be sure to note that the vast majority of people posting agreed with the statements provided as to why getting with a single mother is not a good deal for men: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6s760z/why_not_date_a_single_mother_heres_a_good_reason/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 06:48 PM
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I can show you the pill....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 02:25 AM
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So useless then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 02:04 PM
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But But...... Women's Intuition!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 06:26 AM
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If I ask someone else what the phrase "Just Be Yourself" means to them there's a good chance that they will say something entirely different from what you or anybody else would say. This fact alone is what makes phrase "Just Be yourself" bad advice. It is inconsistent, vague, open to interpretation and can mean many different (conflicting) things depending on who you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 06:14 AM
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The trick is to find those rare exceptions where the mom understands a relationship takes time, and she can balance the kids with the relationship. In other words find a unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 02:23 PM
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at the very moment you make a child with a woman, that child becomes priority over you, so it's the same setup No its not, at the point you have a child that is blood related to you you lose priority but the trade off is your child will flourish as a result of your loss in priority. With a single mother you never have the priority and it doesn't come with the trade off that your biological child benefits from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 02:16 PM
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So, I became a single mom when my ex decided to beat the shit out of me at 31 weeks pregnant If you couldn't tell what type of person he was before that point (i.e. his character, disposition, etc) you had no business having his kids in the first place. This is one of the reasons I am skeptical of people who say women can just sense creepy or other unfavorable traits in men. If you couldn't see the red flags in a guy who literally beat your face in its hard to believe you could use it to find an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 02:13 PM
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What percentage of single mothers are rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 01:57 PM
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Child support payments are a thing, you know. Why would the single mother go for child support from the Bio father (who may not be able to pay it anyway) when she has some sucker willing to provide so much more for her and her children? I just don't understand your passion for only raising your kids Would you act as the clean up crew to a party you weren't invited to and are not being paid/compensated for? I sincerely doubt it. Not my child, not my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 03:16 AM
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If you have to spend resources taking care of kids might as well make sure they're related to you. I'm not too keen on busting my ass to support some other man's responsibility when he didn't care enough to do it himself. Sets a bad precedent where these guys can go around knocking up as many women as they want and their offspring will be bankrolled on someone else's dime.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 02:13 AM
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Sure why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 12:34 AM
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Some men are suckers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 11:06 PM
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With your child the lost of priority comes with the gain of seeing your offspring flourish and up until the time you do have a kid you remain her top priority. With a single mother you are never the priority and the sacrifice only benefits some other guys children.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 11:04 PM
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You didn't read the full post It's one thing if the child is yours at which point sacrificing your priority is necessary to see your offspring flourish I expect that when she has your child your priority will take a backseat to your offspring. Until then your priority comes first. With a single mother your priority will never be first in the relationship and worse yet it takes a backseat to a child that isn't even yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 11:02 PM
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I'm saying the next time the complaint from single mothers comes up on PPD I have an automatic response for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:43 PM
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The complaint comes up on PPD/BluePill every now and then questioning why men don't approach/are not attracted to/don't get into relationships with single mothers. The next time it comes up (and it will come up) I have an automatic response for it that both pills agree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:35 PM
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Next time the complaint from single mothers comes up I'm going to slap it down with the fact that for many people (regardless of gender or pill affiliation) they want to be top priority for their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:20 PM
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Your still dealing with a woman whose child isn't yours. You'll become responsible for them in some way especially if she isn't a good mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:17 PM
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Every time a single mother complains about men not wanting to date them because of their kid(s) they reject the explanations given. Think of this post as an argument against the next time said single mothers make the same complaint. So long as we are all in agreement about what has been stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:15 PM
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Like working as a trash collector, janitor, or some other menial job you wouldn't expect to see women clamoring for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:56 PM
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Often times you'll hear women (usually single mothers) bemoan the fact that they typically have a more difficult time attracting men than child free women do. This usually happens in conjunction with them listing as many of their good qualities as possible and urging men to give them a chance. This post highlights a fundamental reason (As made by a woman) as to why men are typically not as interested in dating single mothers as they are with childless women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:46 PM
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If it means not having to do it themselves then yes. They may not be attracted to Betas but you can be damned sure they don't want to make their own existence harder by taking on the things Betas typically do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 12:18 PM
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Women can take care of everything betas do The real question is do women WANT to do everything the betas do. Imagine going from a society in which all of the essentials required to run it are completed by a third party to a society wherein you now have to do all the dirty/dangerous/difficult things that the third party use to do by default. Sounds like an overall downgrade. Can't ask the Alphas to do it either since they're so busy providing seed/entertainment/protection and its beneath them any…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 10:38 PM
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Japan is partway there, with their retiring herbivore men and meat-eating girls. Japan's birthrate is in sharp decline and the herbivore men are largely taking the blame for it because it is seen as "the man's job" to approach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWoM4ooZBcc Pay close attention to the responses from the Japanese women in regards to if herbivore men are attractive (about 4:56). They WANT men to be proactive, to make the first move, to "Man Up". A few meat-eating girls making the firs…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 03:44 PM
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Women would still approach men in this perfect world for sex and romance Majority of women don't approach men for either of those things right now so unless your going to modify women's biology/behavior too you best believe women (at least the majority) are going to resent being made to be the pursuer (increased rejection, having to actually make a move rather than passively waiting for someone else to do it for you, etc). And we know this to be true because women write articles TODAY lamenting …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 03:39 AM
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Well, the women want them for sex, for one. What makes you think men, being asexual in this perfect world, would care if women want them for sex? If a woman wants sex and I don't I'm just going to reject her no matter how great her desire is, if I am truly asexual its irrelevant. Also why would women approach men anymore in this perfect world than they do now? Because they are more desperate? With companionship being the new motivating factor for relationships why wouldn't men simply choose comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 06:32 PM
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This question can be simplified to just asking "Is Eugenics a good thing?" To which I ask, how much do you trust the people in charge of the process to not determine who gets to reproduce based on their own political/religious beliefs or affiliation?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 04:50 PM
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In the world you imagined I'm having a hard time seeing why men wouldn't simply go to their male friends for companionship. All else being the same why would they choose a woman as opposed to a man who is more relatable for this platonic asexual relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 01:39 PM
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But then again, if you have great game, you could probably signal desire passably without the woman knowing as well. But how long could you keep it up? I doubt it would be forever, and at the point the "practice girl" figures out your not really into her she would be devastated. BTW If your wondering why I am emphasizing the woman's feelings in all of this it's because its the only thing the BPer's understand as innately precious. They wouldn't give a damn if we said the the process of lowering …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 12:32 AM
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I realize this, but for the sake of the point I was making I needed to pretend it was true. If women COULD sense the underlying emotions of someone they just met they would be able to tell if a man is really interested in them or not which renders OP's suggestion about perusing women below your league as "practice" moot based on OP's logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/17 12:05 AM
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but your odds will be higher if instead of just immediately picking out who your ideal partner would be, take in consideration who is showing you they are actually there to play ball first Attraction is a two way street. If I find the girls throwing signals at me attractive then sure why not. If I don't find her attractive it would be unspeakably cruel for me to pick her knowing full well that I don't intend for it to go anywhere or ditch her as soon as someone closer to my ideal shows up. Body …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 06:30 PM
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Old saying "Attraction is not negotiable". If I'm attracted to a given woman (even if she may be out of my league) its better for me to at least try for her than for the girl who I may have an easier time talking to but am not attracted to at all. The hot girl may sense my fear, but she should also be able to sense that I am genuinely attracted to her. On the flip side the unattractive girl may not sense any fear from my approach but she will definitely sense my lack of attraction to her which i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 05:59 PM
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If you're new to climbing, you might not want to start out with Mt. Everest. If you are a total noob, maybe start at an even lower level than you. Let's be honest, NO woman wants to feel like the only reason a man is approaching them is because he doesn't have any other options, that she's the practice girl. If women are as astute at picking up on underlying emotions as you say they will definitely pick up on the fact that a guy isn't really interested in them. So yes, its better for men if they…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 05:34 PM
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African-American male 29, Florida. completed a BAS in Tech Development and Management. Currently working as a Technical Support Specialist. I am into anime and video games but I also workout at the gym, know how to cook a few meals, and am trying to expand my hobbies to include robotics and star gazing. I agree with a lot of what TRP says because I’ve seen it first-hand. If you’re not toting that rapper/badboy/player lifestyle and are not from the wealthy upper class your invisible (or mocked fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/17 07:19 PM
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Aside from MRAs (who are clearly like 1% of the population) who else criticizes them? It wasn't too long ago you had the 10 hours walking around New York video that went viral and was praised for showing the daily "struggles" a woman goes through: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1XGPvbWn0A Or what about "Mattress girl": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mattress_Performance_(Carry_That_Weight) These are common occurrences and except for less than 1% of the population they go unchallenged. You were …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/17 04:34 AM
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So using your logic, it would be reasonable and intelligent for all women to live in intense fear of being egregiously sexually harassed at work, and to spend lots of time complaining about it online. They already do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 11:01 PM
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What? Women's sex does have inherent value, not sure why you think I feel otherwise. There have been quite a number of BPers on the sub that claim that sex has no inherent value. This claim is usually made in one of two cases. The first is in the dating "oppression olympics" wherein a few of the incels that visit the forum will state that women have it easy in dating because they can at least get sex easily. The BPer counter to this is "No they don't because sex isn't valuable to women like it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 10:02 PM
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Yes but TRPers are RP so they know this is not true If that's the case then its only as misogynistic as a girl stringing a guy along in the friendzone is misandric. Honestly though I'm more surprised that you would concede a long held stance by a lot of other BPers on here that sex does not have inherent value. That validates so much of what TRP says.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 05:48 PM
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It is a BP belief to look down on a woman for trading sex for resources and favors overtly. You must have meant RP else it contradicts number 2. Next nobody is forcing women to do anything, if she sleeps with you its of her own accord, to say otherwise denies women their agency. Finally if you truly subscribe to the BP belief that sex has no other inherent value outside of procreation and fun then it is impossible for TRPers to "use" women in the sense that they are taking something without givi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 04:10 PM
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Can you elaborate on how/why cultural influence has an almost impermeable hold over boys but not girls? It's an assumption about how women are socialized. It's part of the same narrative that says women have it easy and has been around longer than PPD, TRP, and most of the other branches of the Manosphere. In fact if you read a few of the old PUA books you can actually see where this mentality might have taken root. There is a section in the book The Mystery Method aptly titled Women Understand …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/17 05:34 AM
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What exactly would the "consequences" be? I'm merely stating that because there are no downsides of doing so people are free to both false advertise and bait n switch. How you would convince the majority of the population of an appropriate consequence or even implement it is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 11:26 PM
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That's a functional difference not an emotional one I would argue that the guys feelings of being used is much more rooted in reality. He suffers the emotional feeling of being used and his loss is quantifiable (i.e. $50 - $100 spent on someone who was only stringing you along). In contrast a woman who was "used" for sex hasn't really lost anything. This isn't about the "transactional nature" of sex Its ALWAYS about the transactional nature of sex, acronyms and terms like SMV/RMV and trading up …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 07:02 PM
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If he found out later she was just in it for the free meal, he's probably going to feel somewhat used. He's actually losing something tangible, money. She only sustains loss when she objectifies herself (i.e. attempting to trade sex for commitment). If she stopped looking at sex as a transaction and instead treated as a human interaction she wouldn't feel so used.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 06:18 PM
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So long as the sex felt good what does it matter if he doesn't commit. Feeling used means they had some sort of expectation about what they would gain from the experience. They were trying to put sex coins into a guy to get commitment and he didn't deliver.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 05:38 PM
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I think their point is that it's not really validation if someone is fucking you just because you have a pussy. It's actually quite dis-heartening and hurtful. For the woman who can't even get men fuck them it is. Men doing what they do naturally for every other woman except them would hurt deeply on a fundamental level.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/17 05:14 PM
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Curious, the male archetype "Chad" isn't nearly as noble. He can be but is typically described as an douche who was born with everything handed to him and can get what he wants all the time (and he knows it). He can be a complete asshole and still have women fawning over him. Kindness and compassion are meaningless to him (or serve as a front) to his larger goals. I figured the female insecurity archetype version of Chad would be someone similar (i.e. someone who is justifiably hated but who has…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 11:10 PM
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I understand being insecure about their looks or their smarts but what would make them insecure about their loyalty?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 08:38 PM
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The real question is for the female insecurity archetype what traits would she have that are as universal to women in as much as the insecurity of getting laid is to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 07:54 PM
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Chads are nothing but the representation of men's insecurity interesting premise, that would imply that the more defined a given trait Chad has the more universal of a insecurity it is for guys(i.e. Chad is good at getting laid because the majority of guys are insecure about it)?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 04:52 PM
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I'm the conflicted anti-hero who's also the underdog.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 02:15 PM
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if you want anything in life you have to work for it. Your rule only applies in certain circumstances for certain portions of the population. There are people alive right now who get whatever they want and don't truly put in an ounce of work for it (Think trust fund baby who gets a Ferrari for their birthday). Just because they don't value what they have does not make it inherently worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 09:32 PM
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Getting laid is no different. Just going out there without effort isn't going to get anyone laid. Do women have to work/struggle to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 05:06 PM
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I'll admit when I started I had very little sympathy for women who had trouble dating. From my perspective (and clearly from the perspective of other guys) women just had to sit on their ass and wait for men to make the first move and then accept/reject accordingly. While I still think women have a greater advantage in dating I am a lot more understanding of women who struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 08:50 PM
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Most women in the US have infinite immediate options, there are far more men than women, at least in the SMP at the moment. So it's like a smörgåsbord of men they can choose from at any time. At least you admit this. Good luck getting women to acknowledge the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 01:29 PM
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You like to harp on etiquette and social custom being the reason why men should pay for outings (And yes it will be men doing the majority of paying because women can afford to sit on their asses and wait). But let's be honest had your precious etiquette and social customs dictated something that would infringe on the rights of women in some way you'd be the first to chuck it out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 03:42 AM
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I don't think people will take rich people as "wonderful". The net effect is the same, rich people can get away with things because they are rich in much the same way women can get away with things because people think women (in general) are wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 01:45 PM
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In short, WaW is one of the advantages of being a woman, but it could also become a disadvantage In the same way having too much money may become a disadvantage in certain circumstances. Just like when your rich when people think you are wonderful you are far more likely to get away with shit that would otherwise get anyone else in trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 05:38 AM
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You can also be a good person with zero sense of empathy, who compensates in other ways, and that will all count in your favor. I always assumed that empathy was part of the territory of being a good person. Regardless what you compensate for carries varying values. For example a hot un-empathetic bastard (let's say his name is Chad because of course it is) is going to score higher with women than the empathetic ugly guy (Call him Billy). Billy is not getting laid nearly as much as chad despite …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:34 AM
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I offer no excuses for men who do help women with criminal acts, they are thinking with their dicks and it's going to cost them. If and when the law catches up with them she'll simply throw them under the bus (as per her evil nature) and because society is conditioned to believe women are the victims and men the perpetrators she'll get away with it. It sort of falls into the category of white-knighting where a male steps in to assist a woman hoping it gets them laid. Only in this case your helpi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:18 AM
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Better question where are all of the examples of men going gaga over women who commit crimes? where is the male version of hybristophilia? Even if a woman committing the crime is hot, even if guys say they would bang her, they would never go to the lengths that women do to get in contact with her much less defend her. This isn't to say that there isn't a man out there that doesn't do this but the percentage truly is so small that the idea it would go viral is ridiculous. Mind you he would probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 11:51 PM
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Men and women both. But they don't speak for everyone. It's more common than your giving it credit for. Mostly because I'm not interested in them? Regardless of if you are interested in them or not they still have no trouble finding partners meaning a good portion of the population will not have issues in dating or relationships if they don't subscribe to your idea of what a relationship entails. It's like looks. You need to meet a baseline. If you lack any and all instincts for a relationship, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 11:21 PM
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I'm a guy. Then you should know what I'm saying is the truth, guys have a difficult time getting sex AND emotional intimacy whereas women only have difficulty getting emotional intimacy. In my book that makes it easier because its one less thing for you to worry about getting. You're just confused about what empathy means. My point about empathy is that a lack of it never stopped women (or the men they are truly attracted to) from getting intimacy/relationships so why is it suddenly the deciding…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 10:39 PM
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This requires way more imagination than I was expecting. some things can only be explained with imagination. So, me and these men are on the same page then? Hard to be used for sex when the person doing the using is so repulsed by you that they don't even want to touch you. Now imagine that instead of sex, it was someone using you to masturbate. A girl using me to masturbate isn't so bad. While society looks down on you. Society looks down on guy who fail to find sexual partners or intimate rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 09:43 PM
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Imagine a world wherein men don't want any emotional intimacy with you as a woman AND recoil at the thought of any sexual activity with you. That's a glimpse at what the incel and foreveralone guys are talking about, not this "I'm lonely but I can still get sex" bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 09:13 PM
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Even without media (romantic comedies, etc) the narrative is still there. For example, back to your point about foreveralone women one of the reasons they received such tremendous backlash from the traditional male-centered incel and foreveralone subs is because they had a number of women posting about how they were forever alone because they just broke up or couldn't get their boyfriend to commit. To men who were unable to attract women to begin with it seemed like a mockery of what it meant to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 06:41 PM
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how often would you be wrong if you used it to guess about the rest of the world? As far as guessing the weather modern media would make it impossible to logically conclude that other parts of the world experience the exact same kind of weather that your region experiences. Your example assumes that I was born yesterday (so to speak) and therefore had no knowledge of cultures or environments outside of my region in Alaska. My first few guesses on the rest of the world based on my regional climat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 04:57 PM
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I wouldn't say I like correcting misinformation, but it's kind of necessary. Why is it necessary? The truth is suppose to be sooo obvious that everyone (except Terpers) picked up on it no problem at an early age and had no problems forming relationships. It's like someone who argued that the sky is green it would be so obvious that the sky isn't green that you wouldn't bother because you would consider them crazy by default for believing that. The fact that you are attempting to correct misinfor…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 03:59 PM
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Haven't you ever read anything from women talking about how much reading all that anger phase gets to them? Especially those who feel like nothing they can do will ever be good enough? The real question is why do they care what Terpers say, according to some women on here we're suppose to be bottom of the barrel in terms of men anyway right? If everything we said was patently wrong why bother to care. Or is it that they just can't stand when anyone has anything negative to say about women in gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 02:22 PM
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I am fine with them existing so long as they go away silently when rejected. They'll exist regardless of if they conform to your wishes or not. You can't control their actions or how they will react. So your statement is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 02:47 PM
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They do not impact my life. They impact your life enough for you to form an opinion on them. I am fine with these men existing and hooking up with other women I'm curious as to what you would do if you weren't fine with them existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 03:14 AM
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You said you can never truly know what you're looking at and why it is happening. That is clearly false. The sciences are merely a solid example of why your statement is false If it were impossible to know something just based on observation and having a good understanding of why it is happening science as we know it would be irrelevant. And mind you I didn't say anything about TRP being based on science, you read that into what I was saying in order to make an easy strawman because you can't re…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 05:32 AM
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It's quite relevant to your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 04:01 AM
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you can never truly know what you're looking at and why it's happening. Bullshit, there are entire fields of science that are built solely on what we observe and our ability to deduce information based on said observations. In turn we can make some fairly accurate predictions about the nature of the universe even if we cannot physically interact with the subject matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/17 11:23 PM
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Ask yourself what is "The Wall"? If you say something along the lines of "A gradual decline in the amount of attention an individual gains from the opposite sex, so much so that they can no longer attracted the types they are accustom to" Then the reason becomes apparent. Men, in general, don't get tons of attention over the course of their life like women do. As such you can't really lose something you didn't have to begin with. If women find me less attractive as I age oh well its not like the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/17 02:07 AM
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I was 26 in 2006, in all fairness - I wasn't dating college guys, more like guys closing in on 30. So your about 37 now. I was 18 back in 2006 and turned 29 this year. within the 11 years that have gone by the video game industry has exploded. As being a part of the male demographic now entering that 30 year old age range that your accustom to dating I can confirm that a good majority of men play some sort of video game as a hobby. It's not very practical to rule them out just on the basis of pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 02:17 PM
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If blacks could reproduce with Bonobos it means ALL HUMANS are in the same species with Bonobos since we know that blacks can reproduce with every other race as well, whites, hispanics, asians, etc.
/r/MGTOW27/02/17 05:43 PM
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Scientifically speaking any group of organisms capable of producing viable offspring (ones that can reproduce themselves) are part of the same species. Mind you the definition doesn't mention anything in regards to abilities, intelligence, or genetic diversity, it just says if you can reproduce together your the same species. The fact that there are mixed race individuals of all types (black+white included) means that everyone is in the same species. Even if studies proved that blacks can reprod…
/r/MGTOW27/02/17 05:04 PM
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You're confusing empathy and sensitivity with sympathy. Women are better at identifying emotions, but this doesn't mean they're necessarily more caring. Then my original point still stands, women are not mature enough to handle the emotions of men. There is a fine difference between being able to identify emotions and being able to handle them. No, but it does a better job than having sex on the first date. Perhaps on a guy with a lack of options. A man who can get sex would simply shrug at your…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 01:48 AM
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I never made the argument that they weren't. This was about women getting bored with their partners and wanting more excitement. My argument was that for women who considered or had partners that are boring they most likely aren't that much different because like attracts like. Your preceded to challenge me on how I would know that so I provided evidence in the form of a sociological concept. In any case my point still stands, If you want more excitement in your relationship be the change you wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 12:38 AM
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Then you can't really put this one on men. Women set standards for other women regardless of men's preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 12:12 AM
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Sure it is, after all if they (women) really were spontaneous, energetic, and charismatic wouldn't they attract men who were also spontaneous, energetic, and charismatic? People tend to get with partners that match them in many ways be it looks, socio-economic status and personality. The term in sociology is known as homogamy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homogamy_(sociology)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 12:09 AM
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Or simply increase your value. Either way, good luck with that. There's no guarantee that these women will suddenly start valuing you more if you increase your value. Better to find somebody who found you valuable to begin with and THEN increase your value further.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/17 12:01 AM
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It's not poor decision making, it's called being human. If you keep repeating the same mistake over and over again without learning from them its a red flag. Sure, no one has said they don't. But, they should probably understand that most insecurities are illogical. Now Now, if we are going to bring logic into this there are a ton of things women do/feel/behave in that are illogical. If logic was the way attraction worked everyone would get laid. Women generally have better empathy and are more …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 11:52 PM
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Why are you expecting women to be men? I don't, it was a perfect opportunity to throw that BPill line back in their faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 11:20 PM
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Like attracts like. If their partner isn't exciting it says something about them as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 09:27 PM
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I have to try to look good" Because they been told that their entire lives to do this for male desire. Come now we've all been told that women who managed to keep themselves looking on point are clearly doing it to compete with other women. Men are very simplistic after all, you only need to not look like a troll or a land whale and you'll do fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 08:25 PM
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Do men want boring women? Or do they too want fun and exciting women? What does it mean to be exciting? Spontaneous? Wild? Willing to break the rules? The world isn't built on these traits and the people who realize this are better off even if they are slightly boring. Besides the women who want said excitement often contribute nothing in the way of excitement themselves. They are not spontaneous, energetic, or charismatic. There's a saying that often gets toted out by BPillers and it seems apt,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 08:11 PM
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I think even the alt right agrees that men have a harder time in the dating market. If he is making you pay, it means only two things: A. He is not having enough of a hard time and has an abundance mentality, so he will easily leave you for another woman. Abundance mentality? Since when did feminists, the so-called arbiters of social justice, need to use red pill terms to justify their actions. If it's come to that then you've already lost. My point is that I am not averse to paying... for a goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 07:58 PM
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Or they could be an egalitarian who believes in TRUE equality and will expect you to at least split the bill considering that you call yourself a feminist. Of course that doesn't work for you because this is one of those beneficial gender roles that you would like to have men keep doing for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 06:45 PM
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Then it sounds like my value is lacking relative to the other women. I can either accept that or whine how life isn't fair. Or simply don't date women who seem to value you less than their previous partners (i.e. women with high partner counts who are making you wait for it).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 06:42 PM
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Except he might have learned from his past mistakes, and now that he's older and wiser he's more careful with his commitment. He hasn't that's why he's still giving "free samples" of his commitment to other women now. Well, I think this is what happens in the majority of cases. If it were you wouldn't have nearly as many men complaining about it. Also it's still a red flag (i.e. poor decision making/failure to learn after the first 1 or 2 times). Viewing it as an insult is insecure and a bit sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 06:38 PM
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expect him to pay the first few times etc. Oh look a feminist expecting men to uphold their gender norms for her benefit. Why does he have to be the first one to pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 06:13 PM
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It's that girls want excitement. In the immortal words of A pimp named Slickback - "If that bitch want's excitement she can take her ass to the movies". But seriously tho, men aren't dancing monkeys for women's amusement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 06:09 PM
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Plus, a man can only really commit to one woman at a time. That's merely a hypothetical example to get the point across. A better one would be the store sample that I mentioned previously. Still, it wouldn't really upset me that he's "charging" more for his commitment than he used to. No, he's charging YOU SPECIFICALLY more for his commitment than any other woman past OR future, in essence he is stringing you along. If he really liked you he would have committed to you just as quickly as he had …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 06:01 PM
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No matter how hard people try to hide certain aspects of their character they always broadcast small bits of information about themselves. Just get her to talk about herself, its a topic she knows better than anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 05:37 PM
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He should be looking at it entirely as a new product and not comparing. Smart shoppers always price check.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 03:38 PM
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Mind you he is still giving it away for free when it comes to other women he meets after you. Now imagine that while your jumping through his hoops (since he isn't committing to you) he is instead giving some other women his time and commitment without any extra effort required on their part. He only raises the value of his commitment in relation to you, when dealing with other women that he met after you he still gives it out freely. It would be like going to a store where they are giving out f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 03:28 PM
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Whenever TeRPers talk about women that in the past had sex right away, but now let the guy jump through some hoops it's as if they are doing something wrong. Let me give you a situation that might clarify things a bit. Imagine that there was a guy who didn't hesitate to commit (for whatever reason things just didn't work out between him and the women he was committing to). He had no problem giving commitment and affection to every other woman except for you, In your case you have to jump through…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/17 12:44 PM
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Face and Ass Black, East Coast US, Red, working class
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 04:13 PM
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When a girl mentions that she's a feminist, what is your natural reaction to this? That shes a powder keg waiting to go off on someone (male), in the case provided its justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/17 02:10 AM
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That doesn't make sense, I care more about my boyfriend's emotional well being and problems than my friends Then perhaps the term friend is too generalized. Earlier you had mentioned that you wanted your man to act as a close friend, however in the way your are describing this relationship (i.e. moving mountains) I wouldn't ascribe that as something I would expect a friend, even a close friend, to do for me. It would be strictly in the realm of what a partner might do for me. Not denying this ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 09:14 PM
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They would care, but not on the same level as friends, rather as romantic partners exclusively. As for hobbies traditionally male hobbies included things like video games, sports, etc. Sure more and more women have joined these hobbies but it hasn't been something that has occurred in mass. I am still more likely to talk to another man about such hobbies rather than a woman, not because I don't want to but rather because few seem interested. That's textbook TRP, isn't it? Dangle a few kernels so…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 07:48 PM
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would entail getting to know you, caring about you, being a close friend and lover at the same time, and eventually starting a life with you (marriage, kids, etc. I would have assume that most women have plenty of close friends and wouldn't need their man to act in that capacity. In addition most women typically don't share hobbies that men bond over with each other. Personally speaking, I can't enjoy sex unless I know my partner loves me, and that I love him, and I only crave sex when I feel lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 06:28 PM
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I think maybe this is a fundamental difference in our thought process. I think you might be right. A woman finding me hot enough to be sexually desirable even if they only consider me an object isn't a bad deal. Also objects, especially objects that have usefulness, have inherent value and are therefore not worthless. Imagine you are able to have sex with any woman, imagine your body is lusted after by almost all women in fact Not gonna lie, that sounds amazing. fifteen minutes of their pleasure…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 05:27 AM
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Sure, but that's kind of moot if we're not seeking it, right? We don't want meaningless sex But you are seeking sex, meaningful sex. As a human you desire sex in one form or another. The thing is with my scenario you wouldn't get ANY sex, meaningful or not. That would hurt on a fundamental level because human beings are sexual by nature. Imagine, any attempts made towards physical OR emotional intimacy being treated with mockery or disgust by the opposite gender. It wouldn't be as bad if society…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/17 01:54 AM
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we don't look for casual sex and feel forever alone for never having dated and wanting sex with someone to mean something I'd imagine that you would feel even worse if you were both forever alone AND sexually frustrated because every guy found you too repulsive to sleep with even as a "warm wet fleshlight". In fact I bet it would crush you BECAUSE your a woman and men are suppose to be sex crazed horn dogs that would sleep with anything. It would hurt deep down to think that they didn't even wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 11:46 PM
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So basically people don't believe women who do have issues dating because there are a good chunk of women who don't. It's a sad fact. Because women are perceived as having a greater advantage in dating then men they are granted less leeway when they genuinely fail. To make matters worse the lack of women who share their experiences on being unable to get men to approach them plus women who complain about ALWAYS being approached/being forever alone when they have only been single for a few weeks …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 07:53 PM
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That's a fair point. I was of the impression that someone practicing branch swinging doesn't really have to wait for a better deal to come along because they already had it in their back pocket to start with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 07:25 PM
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Fairly certain its the other way. In either case both display the abundance mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:26 PM
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Even if the percentage is 20% that is a massive portion of the population and still flies in the face of what is considered common knowledge in subs like this. It would mean there is a huge swath of women out there with average looks that never get approached. It's completely unbelievable. In fact I would argue that its one of the reasons the foreveralonewomen sub got so much hate before it went private a year or so ago. The logic of its detractors goes something like this: Women have men approa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 06:08 PM
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Both are displays of the abundance mentality. If you are nexting or branch swinging you are not worried about finding another partner either because you feel you can or already have located a replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 05:31 PM
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So from your statement half of all women (excluding women who would be considered unattractive) do not get approached by men? This flies in the face of what most men on this sub/ other similar subs say they've experienced. Usually we hear about how women are tired of getting so much male attention, how they are always approached, etc. The perception is that they receive attention 24/7 to the point where they have either become indifferent to it or outright hate the attention received.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 03:02 PM
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That not every woman is getting a dozen guys approaching her at all times. Curious, what percentage of women would you say isn't getting approached all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 01:04 PM
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If a woman gives you an IOI and you pass it up, you're rejecting her, just not as loudly. If not noticing an IOI is the measure of rejection then each man has been rejected thousands of times by women who didn't respond to the IOIs men were giving out. The problem with IOIs is that they are easy to misinterpret.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 12:53 PM
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concepts like abundance mentality originated from women (i.e. women can always get a new man because men are always chasing). In fact many of the terms have gender specific parallels i.e. NEXTing (Male) = Branch Swinging (Female). The responses you are receiving can be divided based off of those who may still be new to the concept of TRP vs those who are a bit more familiar with it. If your more familiar with it you can draw parallels between the sexual strategy of men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/17 12:40 PM
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Many of the concepts discussed in RP were adapted from tactics utilized by women. If women are coming to the subreddit to read and apply what is being discussed it merely means that everything has come full circle and that they are using tactics that women have always used previously.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 09:12 PM
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What's so bad about getting plates getting pump-n-dumped? ton's of women make it seem like a bad thing but you get to sleep with guys who are way higher than your SMV. To think otherwise is just shaming them for providing sex to guys they find attractive. Lots of guys may actually like their plates (not enough to commit to them of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/17 06:03 PM
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I have a male friend I sometimes sleep with when I feel like having sex (or I sleep with my exes). Sex was never a priority for me, nor relationships. and I'm not sure I can. How can you not control yourself? You and a man in a dessert: You: "I just can't understand why you are so obsessed with finding water, Why can you not control yourself? or at least do something of questionable legality to get it" *proceeds to take a giant swig of water from your ready made flask. Kind of callous if you thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 02:16 PM
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I have a male friend to tend to my needs from time to time, but that is it. It's easy to act like your above sex when you have someone taking care of it for you. Men who come to TRP don't have that luxury. Shouldn't red pillers remind men more frequently to concentrate on their careers? Doesn't high smv come with success? That's what we in the community like to call Beta Bux. If she wasn't interested until you had money or a career she doesn't really like you she is just after the resources you …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 01:56 PM
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If I can save someone from redpill predators that will be enough. Redpillers can disappear forever for all I care. Even if redpill disappeared tomorrow something would take its place soon after that is similar to it. You haven't addressed the issue, the reason WHY so many men feel shut out of the dating market in the first place and until you do you will never beat the redpill or any of its reincarnations.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 01:32 PM
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Working on a better sexual strategy is a step towards self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 01:22 PM
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From your second link: In short, yes. Although most men are able to have children well into their 50s and beyond, it becomes gradually more difficult after the age of 40. simply put our fertility does not drop off as drastically as women's. Even if it is slightly harder for me to have children at age 50 I can still have them where as it is a rarity to hear of a 45-50 year old women having kids at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 08:23 PM
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I'm OK with black women choosing thugs if that's what they want. What I'm not OK with is when they lie about the reasons they are with them or what men need to do in order to attract women. For example the black women I linked to had another video talking about the reason the educated lames had difficulty attracting women: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi83s33tXf0&t=355s In this particular video she derides the educated lame for not "asserting" themselves in the greater society and not buildin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 12:21 AM
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Sure like 2% of the population maybe. The rest are lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 10:07 PM
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Marriage doesn't prove sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 09:56 PM
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Marriage doesn't prove sexual attraction as the woman on the video link can attest to. Just because she married the guy doesn't mean that she isn't lusting after one of the thugs or isn't secretly cheating on him behind his back. She could just be smart enough to realize she needs to snag her beta bucks first before proceeding to fuck alphas: BBAF.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 09:54 PM
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So he's an extreme exception. Most men (educated or thug) are unable to have it both ways like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 09:50 PM
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What kind of guys were they with when they were younger? I'll bet it isn't the same as the type of guy they married.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 09:34 PM
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She literally says that women date rogue guys in their younger years and then look for the safe educated lames when they get older. That's straight up AFBB.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 09:32 PM
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Again, the term "lame" in the phrase "educated lame" is not referring to the achievements (or lack thereof) obtained by the man in question, rather it is referring to his SMV prospects. Sure he might get married eventually but how many women were throwing themselves at him like they did the thugs?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 09:22 PM
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Not all of the women dating thugs are ghetto, educated women often times fall for the bad boy routine as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 09:18 PM
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Fun fact: The speaker in the video I linked made a video previous to this one wherein she chides "educated lames" for not building infrastructure for black women in order to attract them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 09:07 PM
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It's black women themselves that are stating that the strategy doesn't work (per the video). Who in their right mind would use it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 09:03 PM
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Yes you are very wrong. No man is going to be like " Oh man that chick is hot but she asked me out first so that's a deal breaker".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:06 PM
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What about guys who got into relationships with abusive women, are they also scum for not choosing better? They are fools for not leaving her as soon as she started being abusive. If they were to also start using their victim status to start leeching off of the system then they would be scum.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:48 PM
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Is the charmer any less likely to practice those same unsafe behaviors or have any less self control (he did after all sleep with 1000 women)?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:40 PM
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I just wouldn't like my partner to have sex with a prostitute because there's the STD risk. What irks you more the guy who can charm and sleep with 1000 women or the man who has slept with only 1 prostitute who has in turn only slept with 100 men. The STD risk should mathematically be higher for the charmer but I am willing to bet you would still be more irked by the guy going for the prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 01:05 AM
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I like the idea of a chaste guy. I like the idea of romantic sex The typical Red Pill response would be of course you do because all of the steps leading up to romantic sex typically involves men doing more favors for you to get to the point where you are willing to sleep with him. In essence you can overcharge for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 01:00 AM
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20 bucks says the cops arrest him upon arriving because she'll start crying and saying that she was acting in self defense. Either way getting the cops involved is a bad idea for the man as anything short of straight up killing you the cops will default to her side. So yes, hold frame, don't call the cops, hard next her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 01:44 PM
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That implies that Chad would fail a shit test which is what your request would fall under.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 02:30 PM
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TRP, how do I, as an "dominant alpha male" type who happens to physically be a somewhat feminine-looking, 163cm tall female, fit into your conclusions about the nature of women? You haven't met Chad yet. Upon meeting Chad and letting him be dominate you you'll hamster the whole thing away claiming that it was a one off thing. As far as all of the other stuff you said about pegging guys it is merely the way you shit test to see if a guy would go for it. It's not that you actually respect any guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 12:21 AM
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I think the point he's making is that your struggles vs the struggles of men on RP is like comparing the struggles of a rich business owner to a homeless person. You already own the business. There was no problem for you getting into the relationship/sex in the first place, your "struggles" only occurred within the context of the already existing relationship. This isn't true for a lot of guys for whom the struggle starts at the beginning when trying to form any kind of romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 08:38 PM
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As a black man if I wanted to commit suicide I would just attack a cop..... or get pulled over for driving while being black in Alabama.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 05:24 PM
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Johnny and the Wizard. Typically I play a hybrid long range character (archer/wizard). In games that don't allow for hybrids I choose wizard and specialize in storm magic (lightning/wind/Ice/etc). Depending on who I am partied with I may act as crowd controller dumping tons of AoE in a region or I may opt for single target damage in case I am fighting a boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 05:02 PM
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Here's a thread someone made in PPD that only low value men care about their partners N-count: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/585do5/cmv_only_low_value_men_care_about_their_partners/ While not the exact wording the overall objective is the same, stop men from taking women's N-count into consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 02:37 AM
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I typically side with the RP but I'm not gonna lie, at least two of the scenarios in the comics are not the women's fault. In the one where the guy shot himself the women told him outright that they were not attracted to him. It would be a different story if they had lied to him saying something like "just be yourself" but the women described were un-characteristically honest. In addition you can't expect them to do much more than give platitudes after the fact and then continue about their live…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 02:33 PM
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Women obviously, the majority can afford to sit on their ass and wait for men to make the first move and then pick and choose accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 04:45 PM
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you're replaceable and just a fucktoy to be used and disposed of. A good portion of men would give an arm for that position and for many this would be enough to overshadow any of the other issues presented.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 05:20 AM
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Men see women as objects they possess , when someone hurts their women it hurts them because they subconsciously feel that woman belongs to them. Men have shown that they are willing to die for their women. You don't put your life on the line for something you consider an object. When was the last time a woman died for her man?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:09 PM
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Do you think reforming sluts deserve happiness? No more than men deserve sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 05:03 PM
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I like people that are above their instincts and in control of their emotions (at least a little bit). Nobody is above their instincts. They are getting attacked sure, but if they get bothered by it they are too weak to hang out with me. That's a rather self serving loop. On the one hand if you are attacking someone and they speak up about it you consider them weak for being bothered by your attacks yet in your very next paragraph where your example is someone is holding a knife to you and you f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 10:12 PM
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Someone that pretends to be part of a niche just because he likes the style even though he doesn't share the same personality traits, mindset, interests and taste is faking too much. From the example you gave you made it seem like you were testing someone who just so happened to wear a shirt of a band you liked and then writing them off if they couldn't correctly tell you something about the band. Couldn't it be just as likely that they could just now be getting into it, seems like an excellent …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 08:33 PM
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Oh I didn't meant it as getting him to leave, but rather him showing up at the party. I don't think I follow. He's showing up at a party uninvited but your telling him to leave but your reason for doing so isn't so much to get him to leave as it is to test him. From my perspective I would only tell him to leave if I actually meant it. The sooner the better. I don't want to hang out with fake people so I screen them out rather early on. There's an old saying that comes to mind "Everyone wears mas…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 06:17 PM
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I mean, do you seriously think so little of women that you think that they can't even figure out what they are doing when they are doing things? At least if you claim its subconscious they don't look like as much of an asshole due to their actions being unintentional. It's like when you are hosting a party and some random guy comes and you ask him "what the fuck are you doing here? Go home" and if he gets defensive or hurt he has to leave, but if he says something cool he can come in. If I ask y…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 04:31 PM
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Last I checked RPers and TRP in general is anti-marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 01:42 PM
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Even in a romantic aspect the loud buffoon isn't necessarily the one who goes dateless/sexless/etc. As you said like attracts like, in order for that to be true somebody has to be interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 03:31 PM
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You said no one wanted a loud buffoon when clearly this proves otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 03:25 PM
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No one wants a loud buffoon. The fact that Trump won the nomination clearly means that SOME people want loud buffoons.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 03:13 PM
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It's not a question of morality, I am simply contesting your statement that women are more attractive than men because reasons. What your doing is like declaring someone who wore a mask in a beauty pageant the winner. You don't know what they're face looks like so you can't possibly make an accurate assessment. There are plenty of before and after makeup photos of women where a woman goes from hideous to beautiful all because she smeared on what is the equivalent of face paint. I'm stating that …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 03:42 AM
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Well I wouldn't be able to tell you about the types of makeup and what they can do (merely what I observe as the effects). Still it doesn't seem possible that you can keep up the charade forever. Even if you could keep it up it seems rather sad having to wear a mask at all times. This takes the phrase "beauty is only skin deep" to a whole new level, only in this case its not even skin deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 07:28 PM
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The truth comes out eventually. When their facade cracks their SMV will plummet. Perhaps that is why a good portion of women are so insecure about their looks because they know their beauty/SMV is not even skin deep, it can wash off in a light rain.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 06:43 PM
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Appearance is not reality, not everything that sparkles is gold. Someone who drives a Ferrari isn't necessarily rich, it is just as likely that they could be renting the car precisely to give off the impression that they are rich when in fact they are dead broke. Likewise someone who wears makeup isn't necessarily attractive, they are merely putting up a facade. True attractiveness isn't something you can just wash away at a moments notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 06:13 PM
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As a man the face I go to work with is the same one I go to bed with as well as the one I wake up with. The fact of the matter is that for a good portion of women this isn't true, they are only as attractive as the makeup they are wearing. If they washed it off their face and then went about their day there is a good chance that someone is going to ask them if they are not feeling well or state that they don't look at the top of their game.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 05:29 PM
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Men are children too. They're easily controlled by their dicks and will literally throw away their common sense for a nice set of tits. Hence why yall are sitting on this subreddit reading books and doing field reports on getting in a woman's vagina. ...How do you feel reading that? It's the truth! It's nature !!! Society has been saying that for years already and men have had to grow thicker skin as a result. Perhaps women should do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 05:20 PM
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One of those alternate explanations for the 80/20 rule is that average woman is more attractive than the average man. I'll believe that when women stop collectively wearing the mask that is makeup. Makeup and clothing can make the average HB5 woman look like an HB7 or HB8. In other words they are faking their market value, sort of like putting a fresh coat of paint on an older clunker except the paint needs to be re-applied every 24 hours or less because it keeps peeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 05:09 PM
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I might not have been attracted to them but likely some other woman was. Thought you and every other woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 11:54 AM
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Because it's a hunter-gather society you would most likely have to rely on the guy you beat up to help you with hunting. Can you really trust a man who you attacked and slept with his wife to have your back in a hunting expedition? he's liable to attack you at a critical time and leave you for whatever animal you were hunting to devour. It works to your advantage to keep social cohesion even if it means you don't sleep with as many women as you otherwise would want to because its impractical to …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 11:00 PM
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I don't care if you have Oprah's money and fame if you look like Oprah I am not attracted to you. Sexual attraction is physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 02:29 PM
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Men who did not mate guard could easily be weeded out of the gene pool by partners who had children from other males behind their back. Men who do mate guard are far more likely to catch/stop such transgressions and are therefore more likely to pass on their genes to the next generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 02:22 PM
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Chicken or the Egg? I could just as easily argue that if men got laid more often they would have more practice and become better at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 04:05 PM
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From her perspective, there's a good chance that she has a beta orbiter who treats her as good if not better than mister alpha its just that he doesn't count because he isn't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 03:42 AM
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It's called the halo effect, you see people who you are attracted to in a more positive light. Inversely someone who you are repulsed by you will see in a more negative light. I'm sure the guy isn't treating you any differently than he would anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 03:05 AM
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Its not just the 40 year old virgin. Think about the American pie series and any of the dozens of rip offs it spawned. The story line always revolves around the main protagonist being a social outcast which is highlighted by his virginity because nobody is a virgin at his school and how he has to lose it by prom in order to be considered worthy of social acceptance. Sure they'll try to shoehorn in some sappy moral close to the end but not before mocking and deriding the main character countless …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 01:55 AM
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They give enough of a shit to make comedies out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 01:39 AM
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The only people who would judge you negatively for being a virgin are assholes Guess the majority of people are assholes since society judges the shit out of men who don't get laid. know this is hard to understand when you're a kid, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with waiting until you're older. I already waited til I was older.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:42 PM
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Because in the context of the post it references him as the ideal example for what male virgins could/should strive towards. There would be no reason to mention him otherwise if that weren't the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:38 PM
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You brought up the fact that he could be asexual. In the context of the post the OPs friend is used as the ideal for other male virgins to follow despite not having the same sexual desires making her use of him as the example rather malicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:30 PM
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You could fuck em. That's actually the best idea as it would: A) demonstrate that sex isn't the end all be all. B) remove their virgin status. ib4 some smart ass comment about sleeping with dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:25 PM
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"Hey male virgins, I know you have sexual desires but why don't you try to have no sexual desires like this one guy..." It almost seems kind of malicious when you read it out loud doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 08:11 PM
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It's easy to talk about taking risks when your not the one taking them, when its not your neck on the line, your reputation, your social standing hanging in the balance. In an age where male sexuality is demonized/marginalized who are you to ask us to take more risks?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:50 PM
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His example was brought up to convince the men in the majority of male virgins that being a male virgin isn't a big deal despite the fact that his circumstances are completely different from what 90 percent of the male virgins we typically talk about on the forum experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:42 PM
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In which case he is an outlier to the majority of virgins we discuss on the forums who don't have the options like this to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 04:59 PM
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OP has already stated in another comment that he is actively rejecting her advances. That beyond a doubt makes him an outlier relative to other virgins who would like to lose their virginity, are not desperate about it, but have a difficult time going about it. It's essentially the difference between someone not having something because they can't afford it versus someone who doesn't have it because they don't want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 04:57 PM
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Because those things are outliers, things that don't apply to the majority of the men we are discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 04:54 PM
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Any idea why? Is it religious or some other distinction that would stop him having sex with anyone? And if it is why do you think this should be applicable to the majority of male virgins who are clearly not like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 04:48 PM
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I'm well aware that he could be asexual, gay, religious, has some hang up about sex, or that OP is just plain unattractive to him. But if we're assuming that none of those things apply and that he is just as attracted to her as she is to him then I have a hard time believing he would turn down such an offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 04:45 PM
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Until it does its smarter for a man to exaggerate the number.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 04:41 PM
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Your missing my point. Your holding up your friend as a model virgin, someone your attracted to in part because he isn't desperate. The fact of the matter is he's still a virgin despite not being desperate or unattractive. If you were truly attracted to him you would have slept with him by now. Unless he is actively beating you off with a stick (because he's religious, asexual, gay, beta as f*ck, etc) I have a hard time believing he would turn down such an obvious offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 04:38 PM
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My virginal friend Matt is the hottest guy I've ever met and I'd fuck him in a heartbeat, js. But you haven't. That's exactly my point, even the fact that he's the hottest guy you know wasn't enough for you to jump his bones because you knew that he's a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 04:19 PM
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Also people shouldn't judge a man for the amount of sex he gets. But they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 03:41 PM
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Are you a virgin? If you are, does that bother you? It shouldn't! What should matter is irrelevant. What matters is that people do in fact judge you negatively as a man if you haven't had sex. Oh sure they'll say some PC bullshit like "There's nothing wrong with being a male virgin" to not make themselves sound shallow but truthfully its unattractive to them. It's the reason guys lie about their partner count.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 03:39 PM
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It's been observed ad nauseam that the actual advice on TRP is pretty much just common sense. Really? What is "common sense" now wasn't so common 5 years ago, that's the real reason TRP caught on because men were tired of getting bullshit advice. but even the most insane feminazi will probably concede that the spree killers are probably a minority of the posters. They were the first ones to capitalize on the tragedy to further their political agenda. "Elliot Rodger and the culture of toxic mascu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 12:13 AM
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It's just sex and you can't judge her actions through your moral lens. Sure you can, If I feel her actions are reprehensible through my moral lens I can choose not to associate or make myself available to her as a potential option. Not everyone thinks the same way as you. The real question is what percentage of men do think the same as me, If its anything significant a woman with a high partner count may find herself with fewer options than normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 01:34 AM
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Both Both Sex with someone you think is hot and really like as a person. (Emphasis on them being hot, if they are just someone I like as a person but not really attracted to the hot stranger wins out) Impulsive, immediate sex. Both
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 03:54 PM
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I find that hard to believe. I'm sure you have a study for this so I expect that you'll be posting a link to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 03:39 PM
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Bringing it back to the post discussion if a woman typically has hot wild sex with complete strangers she should be having 10 times the amount of wild sex with the guy she is dating. There should never be a point in which her partner is getting less sex than the guys she is casual with. In this instance her response is less about what she says and more about her actions in relation to you regarding sex versus what she has done with other guys in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 03:35 PM
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Your missing the context. Often times TRP describes holding frame and the consequences of not doing so (i.e. the woman cheats on you). In this context every woman has potential to cheat on you and you can't rely on her morality to stop her from not doing so if you loose frame. In this way all women are sluts but your level of frame will determine if she is a slut just for you or a slut for someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 03:15 PM
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Ok, what type of response would signal to him that she is a high quality slut? Be a slut that only sluts for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 07:05 AM
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Women have always had to be wary of the type of men who are attracted to TRP and PUA. Why because they wanted sex? This argument only makes sense if they weren't sleeping with random guys already that were only about that booty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:50 AM
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Wrong, he's going to see her as a slut regardless of her actions. The test is to see what caliber of slut she is. The idea is that your slutting it up with somebody even if it isn't him there is no such thing as "passing" by not being a slut. The closest thing to passing is to be a slut that only sluts for him. If your thinking its unfair that it assumes your a slut by default, your completely right - still isn't going to change a damn thing. It's a good way of filtering women who try to posture…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:42 AM
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Then it's not specifically because of PUA and TRP as they are both fairly recent social phenomenon. Women would be doing this regardless of if either one existed or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:45 AM
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He says nothing about taking things slow or treating a woman special. Just because your vetting a potential candidate does not mean you'll be spending weeks or months doing so. If anything he proves what I just said earlier with the following line: Within two minutes of your first approach, you need to foster an environment of fun sexual openness. i.e. escalate at your earliest possible chance. The RPer in question describes vetting with the understanding that the process does not take weeks or …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:41 AM
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If a man gave his commitment (time/money/energy) freely and easily to his last 3 girls but made you jump through hoops to get even a fraction of that would piss you off. It's not the only thing I expect but if I really am important to you I expect to get more loving than any random guy off the street that you decide to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:15 AM
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It doesn't matter who the man is, the fact that she is making him jump through hoops while other guys get a free pass is going to bother him. This is especially true if he's spending resources on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 04:33 AM
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Women were doing this well before PUA and TRP appeared on the scene. Don't pretend that this is something new.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 04:19 AM
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Not when it doesn't seem like its being reciprocated. You want to prove that you love a man, sleep with him more than you would the casual random guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 04:16 AM
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Hmm, well maybe we do this to weed out the men who think our vaginas are the 'best thing about us'. :-) If that were true you would't be having casual sex with random guys. That's the point being made, withholding sex as a filter for guys only works if your not sleeping with random assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 04:11 AM
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In long term relationships, they want to make sure the man won't use them for sex, or that they're genuine. Who the fuck would want to get into a LTR then if its guaranteed that you will have less sex than you otherwise would have if you were just the casual fling?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 04:02 AM
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I base most of my views on men off of TRP lol. You haven't been paying enough attention then. TRPers would never say that you should take it slow with a woman or claim that any given woman should be treated special. If anything they would state that you should escalate at your earliest possible chance and that if you feel that a given woman is "special" sleep with a dozen other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 03:46 AM
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Of course there are holes in the system. Then what good is it if it can't keep the people who are truly dangerous away? Those individuals who exploit the fact that your system can't catch them because they are good at faking their emotions are the most dangerous of all. Your post essentially boils down to "Be a better sociopath that can fake their emotions perfectly".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 04:52 AM
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Nobody is ever going to argue that you can't find at least a few incels who have high standards. Of course the only reason you bring up the minority of incels who have high standards is so you can paint the majority with the same brush. I think part of the reason why sites like PUAhate or subs like /r/incels often say they hate /r/TRP is that TRP doesn't focus enough on the importance on looks and dating realistically. It gives the impression that you have the potential to date a hot girl, no ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 11:59 PM
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You could end up on a stick anyway if the "Rich" daddy thinks your abusing his precious little flower and we know that he has the connections to ensure that he gets away with it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 01:08 AM
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Staying true to yourself is a better catchphrase imo than simply being yourself From my perspective there's little difference between the two phrases. In terms of the geek gets girl type stories getting the girl IS the accomplishment (which is why it occurs at the end of the movie). In addition the character gaining the confidence at the last minute to win the girl over can be just as damaging a narrative. It's effectively saying "Just be confident in who you are and people will accept you". Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 05:13 PM
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Good thing most kids realize it's total bullshit once they're past the Barney stage of life. I don't think they do. Personal experiences aside the media in general loves to force feed the narrative that "staying true to yourself" will pay off in the end. That's why you have cliches like the geek gets the girl in the end and people still buy into it, they are sold on the idea that they will be loved for who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 04:17 PM
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There isn't, at the very least you can hire a hooker or escort. Is there an event horizon for finding a partner that actually cares for you? I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 04:11 PM
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I am in favor of advising young people that they need to find what in the world they like doing, and become the very best at it; that the biggest and most important challenge in his life will be deciding what he wants and then going after it with reckless abandon, no matter what the cost. Then say just that and leave out the JBY advice which does little to convey or enhance what you just stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 03:55 PM
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The message behind them varies depending on the person giving it. It's the phrase equivalent of one of those ink blotch paintings where everyone sees something different, its highly interpretive making it terrible in both conveying meaningful messages and as useful advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 03:51 PM
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Just be yourself means to be genuine with your intentions and intuition that is part of who you are. This means being honest, not afraid to show who you really are and go for what you want. If I asked another person what the phrase "Just Be Yourself" means there is a good possibility that they will come up with something completely different than what you said. That fact alone is what makes it bad advice. The problem with the phrase is that it has a concealed meaning and it is misunderstood I.E.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 02:21 AM
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An incel woman can have sex with a person of their preferred sexual orientation (even if they are not attracted to the guy choosen). An incel man cannot. Of course your knew that which is why you decided to the draw the parallel between a woman sleeping with someone of the correct orientation to a hetero man sleeping with another man. The reason is because your parallel has no true reverse where a hetero woman will have trouble finding a man to sleep with. This fact alone proves that a incel wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 07:41 PM
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In my pretend scenario, the man was consenting to sex with a woman... Someone who is drunk cannot give their consent to sex, therefore whatever reason she gives for sleeping with him is mute as the law would still technically consider her a rapist, not because she was deceptive but because she slept with someone who cannot legally consent to having sex. Of course that's only if you're really flipping the script.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 11:27 PM
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I'm curious as to why you tried to join /r/ForeverUnwanted which is known for holding the stance that women can't be incel versus say /r/ForeverAlone which has tried to make more strides recently to include women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 04:48 PM
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I'm a celibate right now because I haven't gotten laid in one week. If you went to the incel/foreveralone communities claiming that they'd laugh you out of the sub and tell you to "Fuck off normie!!!".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 02:55 PM
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So your saying.......AF/BB?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 02:25 PM
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If the majority of people said a given guy LOOKED like a criminal or THINK he's a criminal because of other physical features (lets say his race for example) would that be justification enough to discriminate against him? No? Then why is this argument valid based on any other appearance based criteria? It wouldn't fly and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 03:10 AM
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They haven't felt social shame for their sexuality. Except when they are called creeps, perverts, sexual deviants, rapists, etc not because they actually are mind you, but because society finds male sexuality a joke at best and threatening at worst. I'm sure you can come up with a few example of guys that fit those labels but for the majority they don't yet society will just as easily label them the same as those for who the title fits.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 11:02 PM
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whoever told you that was lying. An Incel never gets laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 03:39 PM
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The thing which really determines whether you have tonnes of promiscuous sex, is how extroverted and fun you, but even if you learn this, you will still only be having sex at or below your level A lot of guys have trouble getting sex with women even at their "level", its still a step up. Learning game will improve your frequency of having sex, not your quality of potential partner. TRP is about sexual strategy so the fact that it improves the frequency with which you have sex means its working.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/16 03:36 PM
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I always thought of the phrase as meaning that men will do things for women that women wouldn't do for men if the situation was reversed. For example, when a gunman is on the loose and men go to protect their girlfriend/wife/female acquaintance by acting as a human shield you don't really hear of the reverse happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/16 12:13 PM
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I'm honestly kind of surprised to see you posting on PPD. While I don't agree with what guys from places like MGTOW/TRP/R9K do as far as attacking/shaming FAWomen I do understand where they are coming from. The idea that women can't be unintentionally alone is much older than any of the aforementioned groups and dates back to the early days of the seduction community if not earlier. You only need to look at their earlier works like the Mystery Method to see see it. The idea that women were alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 03:25 PM
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Nope. Good thing about race is that some races are more vicious and violent than others. Rape, murder, larceny,etc still occur in all races regardless of their specific ethnicity. You can find a person of any given race who commits a given crime which clearly means its not limited to just one race and can occur in even the most "civilized" societies. Nope Deny it all you want, but interracial dating is much bigger than what it was just a few decades ago. Or if your idea of getting rid of racism …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 05:57 PM
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Women have complained about men approaching them in clubs, at work, and in school/university settings. In addition you need to be invited to parties or have access to a given social circle. The fact of the matter is the social appropriateness of a given place to meet women varies depending on the woman in question and its impossible to know what woman will be receptive to your advances ahead of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 03:07 PM
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That also doesn't work because if you mix population of IQ of 150 and IQ 90, you do not get IQ 200. Who said anything about the group in question having a high IQ? The idea isn't to make them smarter, rather its to make it harder to be able to target someone based purely on features indicative of their race (i.e. anyone of any identified group could have a high or low IQ). And I see no reason why we should race mix against our own will to stop something as silly as "racism". Nobody is being forc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 01:55 AM
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NO! Scientific progress is alone morally valid. Science has no innate moral compass. Mind you the question asks not what science will bring to light, but what you intend to do with the information once it does come to light. the ruling academia picked it to be. It's not the best solution, it's not any solution. Of course, the best solution is the amalgamation of all races via interracial mixing at which point any strengths/weaknesses possessed by one group of individuals is possessed by all. In …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 01:14 AM
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The race is a real and valid scientific category with real life implications. Race is real, that being said it is not the sole determining factor for why one group is doing worse/better off than another. The reason people bulk at the idea of racial differences having any sort of scientific backing is because historically people used it to justify any number of atrocities that furthered a given agenda. B1: No it's not, race leads to racism and racism is horrible! Correction, the misapplication of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 12:12 AM
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egalitarian also tended to be genocidal to the point their actions over 100 years ago are still felt in countries today. In what way were they genocidal? Since people are not inherently more different, any discrepancy is because someone else is oppressing them The discrepancy comes from a multitude of factors and neither race or the idea of an ever-present oppressor should be considered the full explanation for said discrepancy. The person who says that it's entirely the white man's fault is jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 11:35 PM
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And "racist" don't believe that different skin color means KILL IT WITH FIRE. To be fair historically racists used different skin color to justify KILL IT WITH FIRE. you can think some group is more stupid, more aggressive, less capable, and overall inferior to your own without denying the humanity of that same group. If you think someone is inherently more aggressive/stupid, etc you are less likely to give them a fair assessment (i.e. "well they're <insert race> so they probably did <insert cri…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 11:13 PM
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Would you rather be the sex that has to work its ass off for the slightest bit of respect, and even then there are no guarantees? Or would you rather be among the nobility class of mediocre fuckups who doesn't have to do or amount to anything and gets an automatic A-plus just for showing up? I can't tell if your being rhetorical or not. In your example being nobility is clearly the best option and the reason is simple: Being mediocre yet still passing is better than trying your hardest and STILL…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 10:45 PM
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It has parts that it needs to work on but it does offer steps such as be cocky/funny, lift, etc. That being said its better than the A-typical instructions men get such as "Just Be Yourself" or be nice/caring/affectionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 02:42 AM
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The sole focus of RP to to understand sexual strategy and use it in a way that is to your advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 10:09 PM
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Seeing as how TRP discusses sexual strategies first and foremost this "alternative" needs to give a clear and concise way on how to get laid quickly and in a timely manner with step by step instructions on how to do so. Read that again "laid", not going on dates, not getting into relationships, not getting phone numbers, but getting laid. If it fails to make that its highest priority it has failed as an alternate sexual strategy. Edit: By the way this alternative cannot break any laws and the em…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 09:59 PM
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Your best SELF. Therefore yourself, not a fake version. With that kind of logic what exactly counts as being fake? If I dress up fancy clothes and claim I like something I really don't or do something I don't normally do is it justified if I say that I am "just being my best self". In both cases your not acting the way you normally would. In essence the best version of yourself is a fake version of yourself because it isn't how you typically act or behave when your alone, just the way you act wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 02:33 AM
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And that's exactly the point I was making in the post. You believe your interpretation should stick more to being yourself, they believe it means to to be a more socially acceptable (i.e. fake) version of yourself. If both of you told someone to just be themselves you would have expected them to understand that you meant your version of what the phrase meant. Rather than making the statement "Just Be Yourself" you should just tell them up front what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 03:58 PM
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I question just how valid the results are. The study says it conducted interviews in order to come to the given results and its no secret that people (especially men) fabricate the number of partners they have had when they think they may be judged for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 03:49 PM
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It doesn't contradict not being fake at all. It completely contradicts it. If you ACT in a way that you typically don't your CLEARLY being fake. You can dress it up (i.e. call it "being your best self") all you like but if that isn't who you are the majority of the time then its merely a facade. If it isn't who you are when your alone with yourself then its fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 03:01 PM
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Well, to most people it would go without saying that for "be yourself," to work, you have to be a decent person to begin with. Actually according to the answers given in the above mentioned thread the statement has a variety interpretations ranging from "being the best version of yourself" to "not being fake". In fact if the best version of yourself isn't how you typically are then your being fake. This is in direct contradiction to the other interpretation of the same phrase. This is what I'm t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 01:45 PM
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Another user in this thread interpreted the statement to mean being a "socially acceptable version of yourself". This is clearly in direct violation of of your interpretation as society is dictating what is socially acceptable. Your interpretation says "never allow society to tell you who you are or what you should do". So whose interpretation should I go with?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 01:39 PM
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Another user in this thread stated that "Just Be Yourself" means to not be fake. If the "best version of yourself" isn't how you usually are then it is clearly in direct violation of this interpretation. So whose version interpretation of the phrase should I go with?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 01:29 PM
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Another user in this thread mentioned being the best socially acceptable version of yourself. If "Being your best self" isn't how you always are then it is clear that you are being fake which is in direct contradiction to your interpretation of the phrase. So tell me, whose version of the phrase should I go with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 01:21 PM
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Do you have a link?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 01:08 PM
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I'm glade you brought up that the phrase "Just Be Yourself" doesn't necessarily mean just be yourself. In fact I made a post asking the subreddit what the phrase "Just Be Yourself" means to them: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4gkp9z/what_does_just_be_yourself_mean_to_you/ My point is to prove just how vague and ineffective it is due to the variety of means and interpretations it can have, some of which can be contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 09:28 PM
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You could say that about AWALT from TRP. AWALT isn't trying to pass itself off as advice. At best its hyperbole. You could say that about almost every piece of knowledge there is. That's clearly false. Try any law of physics, it doesn't matter how you write out the equation it still describes the exact same phenomenon regardless of who the observer is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 08:24 PM
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When they say be yourself they mean.... The fact that it needs to be interpreted means its bad advice. Why not just say "flirt in a way that represents the person you really are"? Even then what does that even mean? In fact I'm willing to bet that if I asked the subreddit what the phrase "Just Be Yourself" means to them I will get any number of differing and perhaps even conflicting ideas of what it means. My moves will not work for you, your moves wont work for me. Then you have no business giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 07:45 PM
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And why can't the answer be "you had bad luck and picked a person that turned out the be shitty, but you didn't do much wrong"? Because that's a cop out. Pinning it all on luck completely sweeps the entire ordeal under the rug and doesn't examine the reasons for why the relationship went belly up. This means that when you do get into another relationship you are liable to repeat the same mistakes with the same disastrous results.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 07:24 PM
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The thing is any person who has a good dating life could have told them that information... But they don't, they opt to give useless or vague advice like "Just Be Yourself" or "Just wait you'll find the girl for you eventually". If they had given useful information to begin with (i.e. advice that gets you laid quickly) there would be no TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 07:15 PM
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Everything I've seen in my life shows this belief to be obviously false. Excluding men in a long term relationship, I would say the vast majority of men (I'd say at least 85%) spend their youth having casual sex. Your only seeing the top 20 percent of men the rest are simply invisible to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 01:32 PM
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I'd say no, as the person who is being asked for proof or a study just might provide one which shifts the dynamic of the debate in their favor (i.e. their words are now backed by fact or study). Its like calling someones bluff, they could very well be making the entire thing up and be in a bind when asked for sources or they could actually provide sources which then solidifies their argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 01:09 PM
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In the past, only true Alpha men got to sleep with women and have children. In the past more women died during child birth than they do now, such was the state of nature. One could argue that using current medical knowledge and technology (mostly invented by betas) to increase the odds of a woman surviving a childbirth is also going against nature and that only the "strongest" women should rightfully survive. That's the problem with making appeals to the sanctity of evolution/natural selection, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 10:50 PM
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I was never stupid enough to tell them. I have friends on the other hand who did and received reactions similar to what I stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:38 PM
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Theres a meme comic that underlines this topic perfectly. It goes something like this: Guy and girl are about to have sex. Guy tells girl he's a virgin. Girl immediately stops and starts saying how guy should save it for someone important, all the while putting on more and more clothing until she is dressed. Guy: Ffffffffuuuuuuuu. There is some truth to the meme, women can and will stop all sexual activities as soon as they find out your a virgin. Don't get me wrong the woman is perfectly within…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:13 AM
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Loud, fat, obnoxious, and talks ghetto is an instant nope for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 03:34 AM
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Maybe give a short explanation of what you think defines feminism and some examples. Feminists are defined by their actions and their actions so far have been anti male: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx7PIIA60XQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO_X4DkwA_Q
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 04:31 PM
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I always figured women didn't care if they were called lesbians, I know most guys probably wouldn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 08:48 PM
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I still don't quite get the mentality, if your just needing a body to cuddle with why not ask one of your girlfriends to do it. If it were sex I would understand (gender orientation and all that). But if everything is platonic and in no means sexual why would you need a man at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 04:11 PM
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The link you provided stated the bill was struck down not because of the alimony aspect, but because of the child-sharing provision. Alimony has nothing to do with child support: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alimony#Alimony_reform_in_the_United_States " is a legal obligation on a person to provide financial support to his or her spouse before or after marital separation or divorce". They are merely using children as an excuse to shoot it down, they wouldn't be able to justify it otherwise. In e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 10:16 PM
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Alimony in general is typical. Permanent alimony, especially in states like Florida are on the rise. Just recently Governor Rick Scott struck down an alimony reform bill that would have seen the end of permanent alimony: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/political-pulse/os-gov-scott-vetoes-alimony-bill-20160415-story.html. Women cashing out on marriages is the norm and the state wants to keep it that way so expect it to rise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 07:54 PM
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exactly, its not typical. The same cannot be said for women cashing out a marriage and getting permanent alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 04:32 PM
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The woman has better recourse than the man does in those circumstances. Lets say the man decides to not bother with her needs, she simply takes him to court for everything he's worth (and depending on the state everything he earns in the future via permanent alimony). There is no end to the number of white knights willing to throw the book at the man in these circumstances. TL:DR The woman actually has more to gain and less to lose in a marriage than a man (at the bare minimum she can divorce hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 04:25 PM
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TRP thinks this is a smart move. It is, there are no benefits to marriage for men. Why can't I tell them that men get to choose their spouses and that if they choose a spouse that divorces them it's their fault for having poor judgement? You don't go around looking for the one dud in a box of grenades. Is there a dud in the box somewhere sure but the majority are live grenades that will do damage upon pulling the pin. The smart thing to do isn't to go looking through the box for the dud and pull…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 01:30 PM
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To be honest the're all pretty shitty. Where's the option where I can have an intimate and romantic relationship with the woman I want that includes sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 03:31 AM
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Either be in the game or be the game. There are perks to being the game. A self-aware game can set how difficult it is (up to and including being outright impossible). For example the single mother trying to "game" me if I set the rule that I don't deal with women whose children are not mine she can never win. Likewise for the hypergamous slut if I choose to never marry anyone her victory is essentially beyond her grasp. Will they hate you for freedom and inability to be manipulated of course, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 03:22 AM
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A RP counter argument to that would be: "Man-up" is language designed to shame men into doing things they don't want to. Expressing vulnerability does not get you closer to getting laid. As a man you'll either be Alpha fucks or Beta bucks but not both
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 01:41 PM
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You can meet them as friends and develop a relationship slowly over time, no outright asking needed. You mean like those evil "nice guys" who follow that exact advice only to be given the LJBF speech or get rejected because the woman didn't like the fact that they used friendship to get closer to her rather than just being direct?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 07:14 PM
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They didn't give him a fedora either.
/r/MensRights13/04/16 05:05 PM
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If a chick is going "yesnoyesnoyesno..." And you plunge your cock in during a yes...... The correct answer was to walk away, she's clearly a liability no matter how much you want to bang her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 01:36 PM
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I have to agree with u/SkinnySweaty, this is needlessly risky. Guys have had their lives ruined on no more than an accusation for some cases. Do you really want to try your luck explaining to a judge that she did in fact say she wasn't interested but you kept pushing for sex anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 03:36 AM
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I'd like to interview a reformed MRA. Specifically, I'd like to hear about how he became a men's rights activist and how evolved out of it. Evolve out of what? Wanting equal treatment for men? Your bias is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 06:45 PM
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The best time is between now and the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 03:20 AM
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I'm saying that she's not going to risk running him off if she was crazy about him from the start. Besides making him wait doesn't guarantee that he isn't only interested in sex. while your making him wait he'll just get it from someone else and then when your ready he could have sex with you and dump you, its not a fool proof strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 01:06 PM
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When a woman fucks a guy she isn't all hot over how studious he is. Agreed. But then my question is what counts as good genes. Obviously it doesn't reference genes that would otherwise be good for society because the types that are naturally selected for do not necessarily yield individuals willing to work to build a civilization. TL;DR "Good Genes" does not necessarily produce a better society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:34 PM
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I understand enough about general human nature to know that when a resource is limited and in high demand people don't wait around to get it especially if its something they really wanted. This applies to everyone, not just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 11:35 AM
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You said that it was important for them to prove their interest and I asked why? We don't ask for women to prove their interest in men yet men have to do so for women? It's not a straw man it's pointing out a concept that is blue pill at it's core, the idea that we as men are not worthy unless we prove ourselves, that we are not good enough as is. A woman who makes you wait is not interested. You really think she would make a guy she is really crazy about, a guy with options, wait around? The an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 11:18 AM
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On paper it sound ok. In practice however it isn't. You only need look at the African American community to see that it fails. The majority of the population of children are fatherless and raised by single mother and it has been this way for 2 generations at least. The women are free to pick any man they choose which is typically some super aggressive thug type. Guys who might actually advance the community (i.e. those who go to college, stay out of trouble, work a job, etc) get fewer women inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 05:04 AM
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more importantly, they prove they're genuinely interested in her And why exactly does he have to prove anything to her? This is exactly the kind of mentality we try to scrub out, that we as men are inherently unworthy and need to prove ourselves to women in order to be given a chance. If this is the mentality of the women you would have us wait for then no thanks. Expecting sex by a certain time is the perfect way to filter them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:45 AM
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It's part of the general narrative you see around the Manosphere (not just TRP). Not saying its right, just that its so prevalent as to be outright stated in quite a number of communities, literature, blogs, posts, etc. I remember when I was in my teens long before encountering TRP, PUA, etc. I remember Neil Strauss releasing The Game. I remember thinking to myself back then "Finally, techniques that give us guys a chance". Think about that, from my perspective as a teen women had all the cards …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 10:59 PM
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In fact, a lot of women are not having sex at all, though the fact that lonely, average-looking women exist probably comes as a surprise to TRP. That would come as a shock to more than just TRPers. The entirety of what would encompass the seduction community/Manosphere (TRP, PUA, MGTOW,a few MRA sites, etc) would hold that women in general are socially savvy enough to get sex anytime they want and oftentimes with the men they want too. Sure there might be a few lonely women but they wouldn't mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 07:15 PM
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they were fatherless in there activism What exactly does that even mean? You said that effective activism requires critical distance, for both MLK and Gandhi they were both right in the center of it (doing protests, marches, sit-ins, etc) and they would both be greatly affected by the outcomes of their movement. They had in no way any kind of distance between themselves and what they were advocating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 06:25 PM
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If you actually follow RP advice, spend your youth slaying instead of looking for meaningful connection, this will bite you in the ass immensely later on. Mind you most Betas are not able to attract women successfully within the age bracket you specified (16 to 18) and according to you 90% of the women are sluts/trash after age 22 By age 22 and beyond (which I'd assume is the average for RPers), your dating pool consists of maybe 10% Good Girls, 60% Sluts, and 30% Trash because so many of the qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 06:00 PM
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He would gas both but would do men first. Edit: how is this a change my view again?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 04:57 PM
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effective activism requires critical distance from what you are advocating for. I'm sure MLK and Gandhi would disagree with you, both of them were right in the middle of their perspective movements and had a vested interest in it succeeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 04:52 PM
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Why do you think Chad doesn't get asked? You really think women would risk losing chad over such a request? No , they would save it for guys they are not afraid of losing as partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 05:29 PM
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I have a hard time believing that anybody who has truly taken the Red Pill would knowing get married after taking said pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 02:53 PM
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TL;DR Women hide their sexual past to ensure optimal beta bucks (i.e. extract as much resource as possible while giving as little sex as possible).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 11:18 PM
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Women are getting careers and making more money. So, there's less pressure on men to be the #1 provider. Women will still look for men who make more money/fame/prestige than them regardless of what they themselves make. As a result pressure will always be on men to make more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 05:59 PM
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I agree men wouldn't act like that. Which is why a male only business would be more likely to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 04:11 AM
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I'll grant your point that they very well could have scripted the entire scenario so I am sticking to the FIRST example which is/was a real world business that failed. My statement still stands, if men acted like the women running that business we would still be in grass huts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 04:00 AM
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If men acted like the women in the first example we would still be in grass huts. Do you have some counter example to show otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 03:47 AM
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I offer two examples of womens groups/businesses in action- The first is a business owned and run entirely by women and the results therein of said venture: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1168182/Catfights-handbags-tears-toilets-When-producer-launched-women-TV-company-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html The second, while not explicitly about all female businesses, demonstrates another possible outcome of an all female group: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqfAt7TshLw Note on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 12:06 AM
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If you really believed it was so harmless and ineffective you wouldn't bother to list reasons or theories for why TRP doesn't work it would be self evident (like some guy wearing a tin foil hat spouting on about conspiracies). The truth is it scares you that there has been such a dramatic rise in the number of men that subscribe to it. Just imagine if men in general took certain concepts like Briffault's law to heart or didn't follow any kind of moral code when it came to getting sex/relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 05:44 AM
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That's just a necessary job that could easily be performed women, or by robots. Oh sure they could but they don't WANT to do it and any automated process implemented has to be maintained. What happens when your robot breaks down in the sewer/coal mine etc? Could you imagine any woman who is accustom to working in a clean environment getting down there to fix it? Lol, men aren't in any danger of dying out. An exaggeration to be sure, but OP feels that men will be redundant to the point where if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 07:45 PM
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How many women do you know want to: Clean out sewers. Fix power lines. Do construction work. Mine/farm/hunt any natural resource. It's not a question of IF you can do the job it's WOULD you do the job. For many women the answer is no. That is why men won't die out, it is simply easier for women to have men do the difficult/disgusting/dangerous jobs. Many of those jobs require a certain level of hands on activity in order to be completed successfully so you cannot entirely automate the process wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 05:27 PM
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Female is the default, the y chromosome is a mutation, prone to abnormalities That "mutation" is also prone to making great scientific advancements and creating/maintaining civilization as you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 01:36 PM
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Women are kinder, more reasonable, able to handle emotions better Some of the cruelest people on the planet are women. Try appealing to a woman with logic when she is upset. If a man bears his emotions to a woman he is liable to be told to "Man up and quit whining".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 01:31 PM
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Robots and machines need to be maintained which can be a messy/labor intensive process. The day robots are smart enough to maintain themselves indefinitely is the day they no longer need or work for humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 01:27 PM
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I've had this exact conversation with my husband and he said that men who don't get past that talk when they're teenagers just haven't grown up. Yeah your husband is going to tell you whatever he thinks you want to hear to make you happy (no sense in telling you the truth if it means he has to suffer for it).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 12:43 PM
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I dont think looks mean shit. Not that I am ugly im actually quite handsome. It's easy to say looks aren't everything when you are good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 12:37 PM
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We have charities because people realized humans are soft and they can exploit their generosity for their own benefit. If you say so Ebenezer Scrooge. Plus there is no such thing as lawless someone always creates a law. Only if people follow it. I could legislate that banditry is illegal but it means nothing if no one follows it. In this world there are still criminals and if you have no option to get out of your situation except for being a criminal be a fucking criminal. I'm positive you would…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 01:40 AM
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Should we then discourage heroism and risk taking in boys to protect others? The second men stop doing heroic things feminists will be the first ones to start complaining about it because they (as women) are often the primary benefactors of said heroism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 12:41 PM
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If I was a rich kid I would not have the same resourcefulness but I wouldn't need it. That's exactly my point, circumstances favored you in a way to where the effort and resourcefulness you put out is enough to effectively get the outcome you desire, this is not necessarily true for everyone. Some people are born into circumstances where the effort required to get out of the situation is greater than the effort they can produce on their own. It's the (true) reason we have charities in the first …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 12:29 PM
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I'm smart attractive and resourceful... I'd be fine anywhere. Not everyone can say that now can they? Life has no rules. Humanity thrived because of evil. Do what ya gotta do. That's exactly my point, because it has no rules it is unpredictable and therefore it is impossible to plan for every possible event that could occur. I have a dog and a gun I'm OK if someone tries fucking with my property. Just how long could you keep it up though? BTW I'm sure that if things went to a state of complete l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 04:32 AM
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Again why does it matter how a stock will fluctuate 5 years from now? Because you stated earlier that there were no unknowns in business. The fact that stocks are often a part of business and the exact future price of a stock is unknown clearly disproves what you said. Give me one example in life that supports your unknown claim with a real life product? I don't know what future events might trigger the fluctuation of gas prices in my area (be it up or down) and to what extent they will fluctuat…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 04:27 AM
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If I was born anywhere else I would have taken a different approach to life. But that doesn't guarantee that the new approach you take will be anywhere as successful as the one you have now. My school was ghetto we had soccer and track and field teams and zero extra curricular activities. I don't know what part of the world you live in but in my part just having a soccer, track & field team for a truly ghetto school would be seen as a luxury. You gotta do what you gotta do. Criminals are entreuo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 04:06 AM
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That's not an unknown. I know that market demand fluctuates therefore I should be prepared to meet high demand and be prepared to weather the storm of low demand. All you know is that it fluctuates, you do not no the percent to which it will fluctuate. If I asked you to give me the exact price of the stock for a certain business could you tell me the exact price it will be (down to the exact penny) 1 year from now? How about 2 years? 3?? 4???. I doubt it, you can make predictions but you still d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 03:45 AM
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and see my Facebook or instagram where they see the results I do. Maybe in a perfect universe where everyone is logical. In the real world however you can convince people to believe a lot of illogical things (politics and religion are two shining examples of this). Piss off someone with a lot of sway in your local community and you could very well find yourself with fewer clients than you started out with. What you said makes no sense so I must conclude you're between 12 - 14. What I stated make…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 03:18 AM
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In business there are no unknowns. Sure there are, you don't know how the supply and demand of any given product will be in the next 5 years (you can guess, but you still don't really know until the time comes). Likewise you don't know how a new disrupted technology will affect business until it actually hits the market. Ultimately you are making up plans after the fact when these changes hit the market. Until then they are unknowns that you cannot plan for because you don't know about them, aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 02:53 AM
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Well have you ever started a business? Started a lemonade stand once, insurance didn't cover a dime. Besides isn't business all about risks and dealing with potential unknowns? You wouldn't have been able to start any business idea you had if you weren't at least willing to deal with the risks and it's hard to believe that if you weren't able to find an insurance company to cover any potential loses that you wouldn't still continue with your business idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 12:56 AM
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Though weather is still in your control Um.... no it's not. you don't have to start a business that is so reliant on weather So your idea of taking control and making an effort means not even bothering to make an attempt in the rare chance that something you can't predict might happen that will negatively impact you? Following that logic you would never start a business or do really much of anything for that matter that could potentially involve risk. Sounds more like running away to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 12:30 AM
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You don't. Let them spread bad publicity. Don't concern yourself with things you can't control. Bad publicity can affect your business thereby meaning that your success isn't truly 100% of just your effort. If you're in the slums it's up to you to figure out how to get out. I'll be sure to remember that the next time I donate to charity. "Hey African kid u/Apexk9 says that its entirely up to you to get out of the slums. If your still there its because you weren't trying hard enough to get out". …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 12:16 AM
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I'm stating that outcome isn't always 100% effort on your part, there are always factors that often times play a bigger role in your success or failure than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 03:11 PM
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But your success isn't entirely dependent on your effort which is my point. Do you really think someone who is born poor and starts strives themselves is going to be at a better position than someone who was born rich and strives to better themselves? Excluding the rare rags to riches story the answer is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 02:37 PM
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Do you deny that it will be Rich+effort > rich > poor+effort > poor I wouldn't know I'm not rich. While you would assume that the rich person who puts in effort is much happier than the one who is rich and puts in no effort you can't really prove it unless you ask two people who are rich that each fit into one of the two categories. Even then I doubt they are likely to tell you if they are truly happy with their wealth or not. Your outcomes are affected by your effort, why do you start to talk a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 02:20 PM
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The business problem was merely an analogy of a point I was making earlier, success or failure isn't always 100% based on your efforts alone and often times include other factors beyond your control (like the weather in the scenario I gave).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 02:09 PM
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If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 06:35 AM
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You didn't specify that we were strictly dealing with business problems (mind you I specified EVERY problem which includes the ones given) and to certain individuals I am sure it would be of great importance if it were resolved (Could be the difference between a raise/nobel prize). Is this a cheap way of proving a point maybe. My point still stands not EVERY known problem can be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 06:08 AM
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You can't get more efficient I actually stole business for other trainers because of efficiency. Someone else can always duplicate your efficiency. I actually applied a business model I have not seen anyone do or have seen anyone replicate. If your strategy is effective enough someone else will eventually copy it. I work with clients for a short duration because I'm pretty good at what I do. If it sours I would just fire them as a client. No big deal. How to you prevent one sour client from spre…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 05:57 AM
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Here is a list of KNOWN but UNSOLVABLE problems in a variety of fields: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_unsolved_problems Nobody has the answer for them, solve it and you'll be rich (or at the very least win some kind of award).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 05:38 AM
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Every problem can be k own in advance because every problem has already happened to someone somewhere. Every problem, really? If I gave you any problem (written of course) your saying that you would be able to solve it because someone else has already solved it long ago? Is that your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 05:17 AM
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What would you have done if competition started to spring up in your areas of interest such as dog training and advertising and your competition had a more efficient and sleeker business model than yours? What if the relationship with your client started to sour for no apparent reason. For your rental properties: What would you have done if their was a house fire and it all burned to the ground? What if your insurance didn't cover it for whatever reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 05:13 AM
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Things will go wrong but it's up to you to factor things in. Not every problem can be known in advance, only when it is encountered. If I run a small business that is so weather dependent I'd keep a nest egg big enough to start from scratch if I lost all my product or I wouldn't bother starting such a business. So your final solution if you didn't have a nest egg would be to not even start the venture at all because it contains too many unknowns that could bankrupt you. That's a fine answer too …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:57 AM
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A persons background is very much a stimuli and more often than not effects their decisions and how they interact with the world. And speaking of actions, you cannot predict the actions of thousands of people you have never met therefore any solution that you try to apply to said group has a good chance of failing when it comes across someone it doesn't apply to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:46 AM
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Also how do I kow that? Who makes your decisions for you? I could name any number of people and you wouldn't be able to disprove me. That's my point if you were certain that I was in complete control of my decisions and what not you wouldn't even need to ask me it would be self evident. That uncertainty is why you cannot apply your statement to an entire group of people you have never met.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:41 AM
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Read the first post the people it describes what I say is 100% true toward those individuals. regardless of how similar their stories may be people are not carbon copies of each other. Even for people with similar backgrounds they can and will react differently to the same stimuli. You can guess how a group of 1000 people might react to a stimuli but you can never be 100% sure unless you've tested it yourself for each and every individual in the group. The fact that you might encounter someone w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:36 AM
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I get insurance or I relocate my business to a geographical area with more reliable weather. This was the best geographical area with the most reliable weather, The storm was a freak incident. Your insurance didn't cover the storm because insurance agencies didn't think this type of storm actually happened in this region (historical data references nothing on this type of storm). Relocating costs additional money that you just do not have after the storm (or better yet) you were able to relocate…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:28 AM
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Of course it will. Because they are responsible for their lives, their decisions, their actions. How do you know that? Individual TRPers can be anywhere in the world, you merely ASSUME that they are in places where your assertions would ring true. When it comes down to it you can't 100% prove it for each and every individual TRPer. You don't know their lives, their current decisions up til now, or their actions and current outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:17 AM
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They don't put any effort forth to get it or not get it Full stop. Regardless of the efforts of the father be it excessive or otherwise, be it for the sake of his children or not, the children themselves are INDIVIDUALS who did IN FACT receive monetary gains through no effort on their own. They simply hit a genetic jackpot being born to a billionaire. The fact that they CAN leech off of their father's gains without contributing to it themselves means that u/Apexk9's original statement: you're ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 04:11 AM
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TRP is made up of a diversity of individuals. Individuals as we have stated start out with different circumstances that effect their outcomes that may be favorable or unfavorable to them. Therefore it is impossible to to claim a one size fits all statement like the one you made that will take into account all of their circumstances and still come out accurately.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 03:58 AM
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Give me a scenario please. You are the owner of a small business just starting out in a given industry that is heavily reliant on the weather being good in a certain region. You did your homework, made sure there were no nearby hazards that would effect the creation of your products, and were able to secure an error that's perfect for manufacturing that has consistent weather that's good for you. you've checked the weather forecast for the next 2 weeks, the forecaster says it will be sunny and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 03:55 AM
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Your first line makes no sense please articulate your thoughts in a coherent manner. It's quite coherent. You claimed that your statement is not a universal truth for everyone then turn around and say that it is universal for a particular group of diverse individuals for whom you specifically do not agree with. That's a rather convenient way to dismiss your opponents. It is universal to the context of this thread because I'm speaking only in relation to the topic the op posted. You yourself stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 03:43 AM
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But whose to blame when you do everything right, you put in the hard work, had the intelligence and foresight to plan ahead, yet unpredictable circumstances pop up that ultimately does the derail your efforts?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 03:27 AM
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But that's my point, regardless of if the father earned or if his children receiving it is his reward the children themselves did NOTHING get it. They only received it as a circumstance of their birth and didn't EARN their outcome in the same way their father did. And even moving back to the other end of the spectrum a child born into poverty did not EARN their outcome either, nothing they did resulted in them having that outcome. As for your analogy of the thief, the thief would still make the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 03:23 AM
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Well that's rather convenient, its only universal to people you disagree with. Sort of lends credibility to my point on how the line itself is only used to silence those people you feel don't have a legitimate concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 03:14 AM
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Correction: Through hard work + intelligence+ circumstances working in your favor you can become rich. Inversely through mismanagement + circumstances not working in your favor you can become poor. But it doesn't stop there. You could just as easily work hard and have intelligence but circumstance could play out in a way that screws you over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 03:10 AM
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The fact that it isn't a universal truth means you can't apply it to every single person that subscribes to RedPill philosophy as it is impossible for you to know the circumstances effecting everyone and the degree to which they are being affected.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 03:05 AM
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The reason you even hear of rags to riches stories is because they are out of the ordinary. Most people remain within the socio-economic class they were born into for the entirety of their lives. As you put those are merely exceptions to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 02:38 AM
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but your rebutted was toward African kids or rich kids who won't be on trp. Yes as a demonstration that your statement is not a universal truth, its relative to the individual. The fact that it isn't universal forces me to question why it only applies to certain people (i.e. TRPers) and not others (i.e. rich people/starving African kids). In fact you could not apply your statement to the entirety of those people who subscribe to redpill thought because you don't know what other factors influence…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 02:34 AM
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But your children didn't earn a single cent of it themselves which invalidates u/Apexk9's statement that your outcome is strictly affected by the effort you personally put in. Many other factors (circumstance of birth and what not) can have more of an effect than just your effort alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 02:30 AM
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Yes, and I disagreed with your response and therefore challenged it because this....wait for it......... Is a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 02:24 AM
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Then the real question is why does you're outcomes are based on the effort you put in. only apply to to Red Pillers when it is easily demonstrated to not apply to the vast majority of people on the planet be it rich or poor? If anything it sounds more like a just-world fallacy designed to silence any descent of the status quo or complaints anyone may have of the system as it is now. TL:DR Your statement only applies to certain people, RP is made up of people coming from all walks of life each wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 02:13 AM
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The statement you put fourth was that your outcome is entirely dependent on the effort you put in, which clearly ignores circumstances of birth and unforeseen events that are out of your control. You claim that rich people are an exception and are few and far in-between, fine lets see the other side of the coin of those born into absolute poverty (i.e. starving kids in Africa) Do you honestly think that they want to be there and are not striving with all their might to survive and get to a bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 01:48 AM
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realize life is hard and you're outcomes are based on the effort you put in. That is demonstrably bullshit. There are people who from the moment they were born were handed everything (kids born to billionaires, trust fund babies, etc), they will not have to work a single day in their lives if they don't want to and have not earned a single cent of the wealth they were handed. In addition when they die they will hand off their fortune to their children who will repeat the process.The idea that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 01:24 AM
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All these lifestyles do is waste your time and money with fruitless goals of appearing more attractive to the opposite gender when it matters not at all. I won't deny that some people only do it to attract the opposite sex. That being said if your doing it ONLY to attract the opposite sex your doing it wrong. When I look at myself in the mirror I like thinking "damn I look cut". In addition you'll notice small differences in the way people treat you when your in shape versus when your not (more …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 05:19 PM
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That's called being politically correct, we already do that today. That's called facism. Fascism That's the point of my post. Without directly stating what they obviously are I instead described them and then let the reader come to the conclusion as to why they are wrong. It's why my last line states That's the problem with this line of thinking, it leaves room for the person questioning the language used in a discussion to eventually appoint themselves as official arbiters of what can be said a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 04:56 PM
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Let's assume for the sake of argument that the points given were true. What do you plan on doing about it? Would you censor some people while letting others talk more freely for the sake of bringing balance to the political gender debate? How would you decide who needs to be restricted? Would you penalize or discredit people who use more profanity than those who don't? How would you stop said language from polarizing the population? That's the problem with this line of thinking, it leaves room f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 03:16 PM
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'because I don't fucking want 2 m8' OK I'll bite I won't date single mothers because I don't want to deal with their kids. If I wasn't there for the party don't expect me to be part of the clean up crew.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 02:53 PM
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The question is whether the redpill is an overreaction. Only in the same sense that seduction was an overreaction to the dating scene when it first went mainstream. Can you defend those aspects of the redpill on their own merits, instead of punching away at random Tumblr accounts? You chided TRP for being overly disdainful towards women but do you ever wonder why that is. If I had to make guess it would be because being disdainful, antagonistic, or even downright hostile is a infinitely more use…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 01:01 PM
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Back in the early days of the seduction community people were throwing around words like misogynist/creep/etc to label those who practiced the art just as much as they do with TRP now. The fact that you would point me to them now is an irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:06 AM
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Red Pill concepts readily fall apart I've found that for me, as a Terper, spending time on PPD has merely reinforced a lot of the ideas initially put forth by TRP. An example of this would be just how faulty the typical dating advice for men is and how much the system will penalize guys who seek out advice for their problems. I might not agree with everything TRP states but I would rather have them lead the dialog over the BPers who would shame men for even asking questions to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 05:52 AM
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you can't say an organization or group is or isn't something until there is an official statement regarding it. ISIS didn't declare themselves to be terrorists therefore they aren't a terrorist group. The KKK didn't declare themselves a hate group therefore they aren't a hate group. Is that really the line of reasoning your presenting? Declarations are meaningless, what matters are the actions people take.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 03:42 PM
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unless there is some secret RedPill base in a volcano where they keep their secret mind-control ray. It's not happening. How'd you know about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 02:50 PM
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You can't say neither. Then I'll say both, plate spinning for the win.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 01:07 AM
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4th link in the MRA post: "Father's Rights" Groups: Beware Their Real Agenda" https://web.archive.org/web/20140325231605/http://www.now.org/nnt/03-97/father.html First sentence of the same section I have been referencing the entire time: Michigan NOW opposes forced joint custody for many reasons: it is unworkable for uncooperative parents; it is dangerous for women and their children who are trying to leave or have left violent husbands/fathers; it ignores the diverse, complicated needs of divor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 04:04 AM
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From the NOW article: it is dangerous for women and their children who are trying to leave or have left violent husbands/fathers This isn't a case of them not stating that either parent can be abusive but meaning to, they deliberately painted women as victims that would suffer along with the children should joint custody be granted. I would say that the post link was quite accurate if not a bit paraphrased, the message is the same regardless "don't grant shared custody because abusive/violent me…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 11:52 PM
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The point was made quite eloquently (i.e. feminists/feminism opposes joint custody because of its inherent assumption about fathers being violent). The fact that your quibbling over semantics (i.e. doing a search for the single word like "abusive" when other synonyms like "violent" appear in the article) rather than addressing the fact that a major feminist organization like NOW has taken this hard anti-male/father stance is proof that you either subtly condone their actions or don't care enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 12:28 PM
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Traditionalism is next after feminism has been taken care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 05:04 AM
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Instead of resolving mens issues you are just trying to make me see that feminism is an issue. Because IT IS an issue. A lot of problems men face today is the fault feminism. Once it has been eliminated a good chuck of men's problems will die with it. So you guys keep repeating and telling me how evil feminism is whilst completely supporting the fact that I am saying MRA only seems to bitch about feminism and not do anything. Drawing attention to your opponents misdeeds so that they lose credibi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 02:24 AM
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Because (and I quote the popular feminist mantra) "FEMINISM IS FOR EVERYONE". The fact that you don't care is evidence enough that it's bullshit but its always refreshing to hear it straight from the mouths of the feminists themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 01:59 AM
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Ok I took a look. You realise that post just cemented what I said? MRA just bitching about women and not actually solving anything? They're bringing light to the issues facing men along with the hypocrisy of the feminists. Whenever posts like this pop up saying something like "feminism is for everyone" or "feminism helps men too" the post in the link is a great way to show that's a load of bull. Then feminists like you double back and start claiming that MRA's aren't solving anything despite the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 01:52 AM
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I go to the link. I CTRL+F "abus." Zero matches. Close the window On the link you glossed over: "Michigan NOW opposes forced joint custody for many reasons: it is unworkable for uncooperative parents; it is dangerous for women and their children who are trying to leave or have left violent husbands/fathers; it ignores the diverse, complicated needs of divorced families; and it is likely to have serious, unintended consequences on child support." Notice the inherent assumption of the violence of …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 01:39 AM
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Nobody's is buying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 10:31 PM
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A lot of womens issues are due to patriarchy mens issues are not due to feminism. Here is a post from the Men's Rights reddit detailing how feminism has actively opposed and fought against men's issues: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/g2eme/feminists_tell_you_that_the_solution_to_mens/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 10:30 PM
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Sex is nice to have but you won't die without it. So is money and you won't necessarily die without it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/16 04:23 PM
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Absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 10:50 PM
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Nothing would change. Most men are betas that hate to see women suffer in any kind of way much less rape. This fact alone would drive them attack men that they see assaulting women in the streets. Considering the fact that white knights will get in your face for even back-handing a woman I'm sure I'm not too far off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:05 PM
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So what else do women bring to the table besides looks and sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 03:00 PM
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yes, not sure why that doesn't make sense to you. Oh it does, I'm just wondering how well you would adapt if the sub culture was something like the Manosphere which encompasses MRAs, PUAs, TRP, etc. Would you be able to adapt to it as quickly as someone who started off in that environment or would your moral posturing prevent you from being able to relate to them or see them as anything more than targets to attack. My guess would be no.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 12:26 AM
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is obesity or antisocial behavior like that? is the solution, accommodation? Obesity is a choice. When we first started this discussion (back in the post "Thoughts on Heathcliff Berru?") you kept referring to RPers as being part of the autistic spectrum. If you honestly believed that were true then its not by choice and our actions should be accommodated not vilified. no, you can be smart in math, or chess, or art, and socially ignorant. i agree there are multiple intelligences, and you need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 12:20 AM
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red pillers are the only ones that hold incorrect ideas about how people are/act. incorrect by your standards (which by the way are not universal). Also your precious mind-blindness theory has been criticized on a number of points in the general media. For starters it has been noted for wrongly categorizing those who may suffer from it as a problem that needs to be fixed rather than accommodated. It also assumes the inherent lack of intelligence, a viewpoint that ignores the widely accepted view…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 08:19 PM
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again, a socially adept person who is better able to read, respond to others is going to pick up on new cultures faster than someone stuck i their own thoughts/feelings. Prove it. if I picked ANY culture (sub culture, geographical culture, corporate culture, etc) your saying that a normal individual will adapt to it much faster than someone your saying is socially inept?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 07:57 PM
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a socially adept person is going to adapt a different set of social rules far quicker than a clueless one, clueless red pill men struggle with the culture they were born in The fact that they have to adapt at all is proof that social adeptness is not innate or universal. How could you possibly pretend to know what someone from a different culture is thinking/feeling when their social ques/experience/perception of social adeptness is completely different from yours? This is the point I was making…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 03:42 PM
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so why are red pillers so easily lied to? so gullible? If they were so gullible they would have just taken what women said about their actions at face value and never questioned it further. The fact that they are here asking additional questions means that they weren't satisfied with the answers women gave them. why do they need inconsistencies (which have always existed and will always exist in people) explained to them, do they by nature lack internal discernment capability? If you saw a natur…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 03:24 PM
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I'm led to believe that the modern trp is a business and has ulterior motives to the rest of the men's rights movement How much money could they really be making, the vast majority of RP knowledge is freely distributed and easily accessible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 06:31 AM
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many videos have defined characters and a premise, e.g. "Teacher fucks student". For starters I would hardly call the role of teacher/student as character defining. Secondly they are playing into a fantasy. The best fantasies often times try to incorporate scenes that might be familiar to the viewer. the teacher fucking the "hot" student/student fucking the "hot" teacher ties into a role that many men can relate to (i.e. a lot of men have been in either the role of teacher and/or student) with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 06:24 AM
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Social adeptness is relative to the culture you live in and therefore is not an accurate tool to identify someones thoughts or desires. It's why people experience cultural shock. If you were dropped off in some foreign country with different norms and customs your social adeptness wouldn't count for jack, you would have to learn their ways in order to adapt.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 03:37 AM
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you know ironically red pill does teach red pillers to to address their social clueless, in a terse way, with the often repeated line, observe what women do, not what they say. but, the reason red pillers never observed what the women around them did is never actually explored Red Pill says "observe what women do, not what they say" not because Red Pillers weren't paying attention to women's actions but because the answers given by women in regards to what they observed were bullshit. They did o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 03:24 AM
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Most people (read men) would rather suffer in silence when it comes to not knowing how to attract women successfully rather than risk people thinking poorly of them if they admit otherwise. Do you honestly think guys are going to give a straight answer on their dating prowess when people like you are going around declaring how easy dating and relationships are? Most guys stumble around until they find someone willing to accept them, few would readily admit to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 02:28 AM
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if trp was full of people that already knew how things worked and were there to further understand/improve, i would agree. but that's not the case. Nobody is born knowing how everything works that's why we have schools. It's no different with human interaction. If someone is not educated on how to work with a given situation where there are unspoken yet decisive rules at play no amount of gut instinct is going to save them. Again the idea that they needed to know everything without explanation i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 11:41 PM
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the blind-sight of trp is never addressing the individual flaws that cause trpers to have needed explicit instructions. Since when does needed clear explicit instructions mean someone is flawed? If anything it means they value understanding of the process and accuracy over gut-instinct which has the potential to be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:35 PM
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You don't seem to get what my original comment was referencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 05:46 AM
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OP's post wanted to know if niceness should be expected BECAUSE a woman sleeps with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 04:09 PM
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Men aren't vending machines where you put sex coins in and get niceness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 08:05 PM
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The typical advice men are given on women, sex and relationships is cryptic and requires interpretation at best (i.e. just be yourself). When alternative advice like RP is given Blue Pill attempts to shut down dialogue by claiming its immoral all the while spouting the failed advice that lead men to Red Pill in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 04:58 PM
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The stance that allows them to condemn RP while not offering any real working solutions to the issues that face the men who come here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 01:58 PM
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A 30+ woman has low SMV and thus has pretty good reasons to stay with you. Well that makes me feel so much better, she doesn't actually want to be with me she just is because she doesn't have any better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 12:56 AM
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Society is made up of individuals, therefore BP morality is destructive to both individuals and society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/16 12:32 AM
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While all of the issues you mentioned are valid they are clearly not the focus of the current feminist movement. If these issues were they would be at the forefront of discussion instead of things like sexism in video games, mansplaining/manspreading, attacking a guy for wearing a shirt with scantily clad women, etc. The fact of the matter is the current feminist movement is nothing more than a lobby for the privileges of white women. They couldn't give a damn about women in 3rd world countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/16 06:01 PM
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No it makes you an egalitarian. Feminism has never been about equal rights for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 05:39 PM
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It's showing the body of the post as removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 06:19 PM
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The original post
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 06:59 AM
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Judging by your comments to other Red Pillers in the thread I'm not buying it. By the way I see that you've removed the original topic post, any reason why?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 03:29 AM
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i feel bad for people who are struggling and red pill in its current form is not helping them with their core issues, social ineptness, blindness, and/or inconsideration. I doubt that, a few posts ago you were quick to label these exact same people as un-self-aware autistic sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 03:21 AM
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first, you are the one confusing social perceptiveness, emotional intelligence with magical psychic skills With your ambiguous definition hovering somewhere between picking up on subtle physical ques and out right reading a persons thoughts is it any surprise that there would be confusion on what the terms imply. You literally said a few posts back that in order to be successful at relationships you needed to be "good at reading/considering others feelings/thoughts". To know exactly what a perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/16 12:45 AM
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what is the difference between a physically attractive guy that is awkward around others and a physically attractive guy that isn't? The guy who is both physically attractive AND not awkward is better able to read physical ques, It has nothing to do with him sensing/reading someone else's thoughts. for most people it's just something you know/feel/intuit. Suppose someone needed instructions on how to build something (anything), do you give them that kind of ambiguous instruction? This is honestl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 11:24 PM
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have you ever read anything on emotional intelligence? A small section in my General Psy textbook in college may have mentioned it. have you ever liked someone and picked up on the feeling they didn't like you? have you ever gone on a date and felt she didn't like you? without her saying that explicitly? how did you come to determine those ideas without the other person spelling things out for you? Through strong physical ques (eye rolling, closed off body posture, etc) which is a far cry from w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 10:12 PM
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(look at you, you think social intelligence is like magic, that's how foreign a concept it is too you.). The latter are the type that populate red pill, seduction circles. Basic human emotions (sadness, happiness, anger, etc) I can see. What I can’t see is the cause of the given emotion that I am observing. If someone is sad I don't know the direct cause of the sadness unless I am told. If someone is happy I don't know the immediate reason. I can see the emotions but the reason for any given emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 05:57 PM
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you are not going to be successful in relationships with women or anyone else if you not good at reading/considering others feelings/thoughts. So tell me, what's it like to have psychic power? The ability to read a persons thoughts and/or feelings with perfect accuracy? you are not going to be successful in relationships with women or anyone else if you not good at reading/considering others feelings/thoughts. Oh nothing to worry about then you just need magic/psychic powers. if you are good at …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 05:11 AM
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my solution is for them to become aware of their inability to read and/or care about others thoughts/feelings (often resulting from their over identification with their own thoughts/feelings) If you had to sum up the question that RP tries to answer it would be: "What EXACT steps does a man take to attract, sleep with, and have relationships with women". If I told a terper to "be aware of their inability to care about others feelings" how does this translate into reaching the stated goal? In add…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 04:24 AM
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that market does not cater to neurotypicals, i.e. normal people don't seek out, populate the seduction community/industry. it's full of special needs cases. To declare yourself normal and then judge others as abnormal based on some arbitrary standard is height of conceit. The seduction community alone is vast with people from all walks of life interacting who don't always agree on the same philosophical values yet you paint them all with the same brush. Is that what it means to be normal? If it …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 02:23 AM
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it is easy for neurotypicals that have had some experience interacting with the opposite sex. If it were so easy there wouldn't be a seduction community (or industry) that thrives on selling products to men trying to figure out what attracts women. It's not as easy as you would have us believe i would bet you are on the autism or sociopath spectrum. I am not and I do not identify as such. un-self-aware autist/sociopath Just what do you have against the autistic that you would lump them in with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 06:10 PM
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attractive people are more likely to be liked by more people... but because this doesn't mean 100% of people will like them They still have more social proof because people are more likely to like them. Because of this fact their risk isn't as high as someone who isn't as attractive as they are. Getting back to the original point: advising their followers to be more intelligent about whether your target likes you seems quite important. You make it seem like this is extremely easy task when its n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 04:26 PM
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only to have it fly off the instant a better looking pirate ship shows up. Are...... are you a pirate?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 02:44 PM
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But the level to which you have to be socially perceptive varies from person to person based on how attractive they are. For people who are generally considered more attractive there is a lot more leniency for what they can get away with, they are more likely to be received well regardless of what they do. The term for this is known as the halo effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 02:18 PM
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aggressive and forward are only good if the girl likes you. Rules for dating: 1) be attractive 2) don't be unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 04:36 AM
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That's never stopped women from chasing chad before.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 11:47 PM
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tells her they never paid attention to her before and thus don't truly love her. That won't stop her from trying to get with chad, even if only for an evening.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 11:45 PM
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Guilt can be hamstered away.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 11:42 PM
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The people in porn are being paid to do a job, I would expect them to be able to fake any emotion that the job requires regardless of the sexual acts being performed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 12:12 PM
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Seeing as how most Red Pillers are against marriage in the first place I would say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 06:18 AM
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They kicked him out BECAUSE he was for focusing on both men's and women's issues equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 05:56 PM
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Regardless of the essentially democratic nature of a "forum" No online forums have never truly been democratic, there have always been forum moderators that can and will ban you if you say anything they don't like. They literally say "This is the only way to get sex". I have never heard or seen anyone on RP say that this is the only way you can get sex. Both the Alpha and Beta methods will eventually reach its goal, but they differ in the quality received and the willingness of the given woman (…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 02:48 PM
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My point is that what you stated earlier about things not continuing to improve if feminism wasn't around is patently false. The fact that men are typically in charge of the proceedings you mentioned is no excuse for the supposed arbiters of equality to straight up lie about their motives with statements like "feminism is for everyone" when it's obvious that they only truly concern themselves with women's issues. The Men's Right Reddit even has posts from time to time that go into detail about h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 04:48 AM
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MRAs have some important points that need looking at The MRA's wouldn't even exist if feminism had actually been about achieving equality for both sexes like it says in it's mantra "Feminism is for everyone". You can barely bring up issues about men without some feminist making a dismissive quip like "What about the Menz" or shouting about misogyny at the top of their lungs. Feminist neglect of issues facing men is what sparked the MRM into existence in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 02:18 AM
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My apologies, In fact, the guys that need a 'definition' may be the very ones that are lacking in that area. You may be right, however they still need to know what they are looking for which is why it must be well defined.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 08:19 AM
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Love isn't something you have. Love is something you do. Oh, I was right, it's not quite a hallmark card but you can buy it on a tee-shirt, mug, pillow, or poster: https://behappy.me/love-isnt-something-you-have--love-is-something-you-do-539858
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 08:12 AM
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Love isn't something you have. Love is something you do. I'm sure I've read that on a hallmark card somewhere. In any case it contradicts your initial premise. You stated that RP lacks love indicating that it is a type of object that can be had in measurable quantities. Now your describing it as an action in which case the only way it can be limited is if the action can only be performed based on a given limited resource. Ultimately your description of "Love" is vague if not outright undefined.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 08:08 AM
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So basically you believed that red pillers have no spine, are lesser beings, do not have a deep philosophy, and we are a cult. You could have cut out like 90 percent of your post and lost nothing of inherent value in the message, the gist of the message could be summed up in two sentences. I'm curious as to why you think a fictional demon is relevant to the discussion. Self explanatory. No its not, please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 07:54 AM
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All this may get you laid, but it is no way to run your marriage or your life. Where is the LOVE, gentlemen? Without it your life is a giant failure, Pick-up-artist or not. Where is the LOVE? And just how does one obtain this mythical love that guarantees your a winner at life?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 07:20 AM
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I can relax because they won't kick me when I'm down. LOL as a man if you lose your value to a woman she'll be the first one to drop you. They're less likely to judge me. LOL are you sure we are talking about the same gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 02:59 PM
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Or write love letters to convicted felons.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 03:05 PM
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Red Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 02:59 PM
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acting like a white knight after what the dentist said to her. But she wasn't attracted to him. He asked her if she was a stripper and then pointed out why it was ok for him to call her a stripper in front of her, I wouldn't call that white knighting. And even if you claim that the one girl who was being sexual with him was doing so because she lacked options and wanted attention it doesn't explain the other dozens of videos on his channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD4xqm6vJ3K4ntppsE1jL4…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 04:40 AM
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He didn't shut him down in any way. Just talked over the top of him until the poor dude decided he'd had enough and he walked away. And yet despite his "talking over" the other guy the women he was with were still into him, his demeanor in no way affected his chances of getting laid. And its not just those particular women. I doubt the women he spoke to in the first video would have been put off by his demeanor if you swapped them. In addition that guy who challenged him couldn't legitimately ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 03:52 AM
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You don't care what he says because he's like a jester, not someone who sexually attracts you He has other videos demonstrating that women are more than willing to be sexual with him regardless of what he does. Matter of fact when someone questions him on his douchebagadry he can straight up shut them down like he does in the video below and still have the women eating out of his hand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDy08-RphI8 Are you honestly going to tell me that the woman he is with doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/16 12:18 AM
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Someone else has already done this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGEO6ig8WsM Tyler was kind enough to demonstrate that a guy acting in a way similar your hypothetical first man can and will be successful even when what he says would normally be considered offensive if it came from someone a bit more low key. Note he isn't actually Red Pill (he's a pickup artist) but even he picked up on the Alpha/Beta dynamic which he described as the lover/provider dichotomy. EDIT: nb4 NAWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 01:14 PM
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The second man didn't bother asking for her number in the first place he just had a conversation with her that went nowhere and didn't declare his intentions from the start. Guys who follow this example end up in the friendzone. Men know from experience that the second man's tactic fails more often than it succeeds and is in fact one of the key reasons guys turn to RP in the first place. Edit: While the first man may be considered more unsavory he will have more success in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 12:47 PM
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The first man because he actually demonstrated interest right off the bat by asking for her number.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 12:12 AM
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While sex doesn't matter as much to you as a woman it is still an option for you to partake in. No matter how much you hate the options given having an option is clearly better than having no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 12:53 PM
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the mere ability to get sex as a ugly woman is still no prize since everyone knows men use women like this behind closed doors and for nothing more. Often times the value of a prize isn't necessarily how useful it is to the recipient but how much it is coveted. Take a wall mounted trophy for example, it doesn't necessarily bring value to the individual who has it and it may just be displayed as a badge of accomplishment. Just because women don't appreciate sex doesn't make it any less of a prize…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 03:01 AM
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You underestimate just how cruel women can be and what they can get away with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 03:14 AM
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Yes. The reason can be summed up as follows: An ugly woman who may not necessarily attract as many men for relationships as her attractive counterparts can still get laid with relative ease. An ugly man on the other hand will have trouble attracting women for both relationships AND sex. In this way failing to acquire one of these two things isn't nearly as bad as failing to get both of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 03:08 AM
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do you just not realize to the extent media has an effect on you? People in general do not readily admit to being easily influenced because it is in general considered insulting. The fact that you expect us to just agree with you on how easily influenced we are is the insult. As the previous poster stated questions made in true good faith are smart enough to avoid making any such negative assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 02:59 AM
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Girls are on the contrary good judges of character Lol women are notorious for choosing shitty partners and then complaining when their decisions bite them in the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 08:44 PM
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i wonder how high these women would actually score if they weren't wearing makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 01:35 AM
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heh only when it's convenient for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/15 07:05 AM
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The premise is flawed, it assumes that settling down is the best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 04:17 AM
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That would be an awesome spy thriller. Sex, violence, and political espionage. It could be a series: GENDER WARS - Rise of the Patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 02:18 AM
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Glade you brought up other countries. In countries like Israel conscription is mandatory for both men and women (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Israel). In this way they are actually more progressive than us here in the States, we still cling to the old Victorian model of men going off to war while women stay behind. The fact of the matter is you can't claim to be for equality while holding that double standard (edit: you can claim it but your not telling the truth). You either ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 01:05 AM
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But I thought feminism was for everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 12:57 AM
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Men are entirely responsible for instituting Selective Services signup, many women are against it and any kind of draft, ever (including myself). And you think that negates the fact that you still benefit from it or that there isn't a "welfare state" that women rely on? OPs question didn't ask about WHO was running the welfare state just what benefits women exclusively get from the system that men don't. What federal aide without any obligation can only women get? If you request college aid/sect…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 12:55 AM
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Men voted SS in to office. Men wrote the law. Women couldn't even vote when the law was passed. Feminists attempted to expand SS to include women, but the nearly all male legislature shot the bill down. So there's that. Irrelevant, your still benefiting REGARDLESS of who authorizes it. You wanted to know about what benefits the welfare state provides women exclusively NOT who is in charge of said welfare state.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 06:50 PM
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You as a woman get the right to vote without the associated obligation of signing up for selective services which is a MASSIVE freebie that men are not afforded. Federal aid without true obligation. Colleges will hold your interests as a woman in hire regards than that of a man in regards to educational opportunities. Even the typical homeless shelter and soup kitchen prioritize women and children first. I have seen this first hand doing volunteer work a few years back. Edit: forgot to add 4) yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 04:55 PM
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I think you have me confused with someone else, that was my first time replying to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 04:33 PM
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I guess you really don't believe in objectivity. You walk into this assuming the guy is innocent. Isn't that the point, to assume he is "innocent until proven guilty" which is how law is suppose to work?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 12:50 PM
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I've come to the conclusion that the academic institutions that implement these kinds of seminars are not doing it because they honestly believe that any of the males that attend are actually potential rapists but because they are covering their asses. In the event some rape accusation does occur on their campus they want to wash their hands of it completely by pointing out that they did in fact have measures in place to try and prevent rape incidents (even if those measures are ineffective) and…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 10:32 PM
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Heh, worth a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 03:36 AM
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But you didn't lie to him, his chances were better after attempting to improve his appearance than it otherwise would have been if you had steered him the wrong direction. Besides appearance is only half the battle as anybody who reads TRP enough will tell you. If he was such a slob previously its hard to imagine his internal game was tops. While my suggestion is better than what you gave him it doesn't make up for wonky internal issues he may have. Lucky for him he knows someone who reads TRP a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 01:44 AM
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They all respond in the same way...women are shallow, why doesn't she like me? Waaaah! And I just say, if you were her would you date you? She's hot she works out The better response would have been "If you want to get with a girl that is that hot you need to put a lot more effort into your appearance, hit the gym more often, pick up better grooming habits, etc" If he doesn't take the advice it's on him, you told the truth and he can never claim that you steered him wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 01:08 AM
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And that's when you decided it was better to just lie to guys who might ask questions about attracting women? All because of one guy's reaction to the truth? Is that how you justify it? And what if he did say all women where selfish, conceited, shallow? Whenever someone who's new to TRP reads what we post and says similar things we don't sugar-coat it, we say "That's how women are either deal with it or shut up about it". Sure you'll have those who stay in the anger phase a bit longer but eventu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 12:51 AM
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Ya'll can't handle the real truth. So we just tell you 'be yourself. So you just lie to people when things become to difficult or complicated but still want to pretend you know what your talking about, good to know. More likely you don't know the truth yourselves and even if you did you would resort to lying or steering them in the wrong direction. And you wonder why TRP has gained traction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 12:27 AM
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your missing the real reason why women who frequent TRP freak out about it. In the back of their minds they could always downplay how effective Red Pill strategies are (i.e. "that doesn't really work in real life" or "it only works on a certain type of women, definitely not me"). With a red pill user being discovered closer to home (i.e. a lover or boyfriend). They can't really tell if their boyfriend/lover is with them because he was being himself or if he used some redpill strategies to get to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:00 PM
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Funny how that works: We are told as men that if we want to be successful with women we need to do x,y,z - socialize, change our attitude, pickup any number of hobbies, get more confident, etc. Then when those pieces of advice FAIL people like you who gave us shitty advice to begin with come in and say that we are to blame because we changed and should have "just been ourselves".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 08:40 PM
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the key is not to start with the assumption that you are going to get laid but to simply, you know, socialize and see what happens. When you have a goal you don't just leave it up to fate to decide how you reach it, you begin with the end in mind and plan it accordingly. The "see where it goes" strategy only works for guys who are pretty much guaranteed to getting laid regardless of how an evening starts. Also you would be surprised at the number of women that can be hostile to you without you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 08:32 PM
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Its not hard. It's not hard for you. Not every man can just walk up to a girl and then after a few minutes of chit chat start making out with them. Your liable to get pepper sprayed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:35 PM
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A healthy relationship is about understanding your partners wants and needs. Clearly in this case its not a healthy relationship because his wife failed to understand and meet his wants and needs (i.e. he wants sex and shes not giving it to him which is why he is complaining about it on the internet).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:15 PM
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it is a dumb thing to say unless you can prove its true If people had to prove everything they say very little would ever be said. It is our right to say whatever we please, if what we say is so demonstrably wrong why should it concern you, you would simply brush it off as foolishness. The real reason it concerns you is that your worried that we might have a few valid points with the things we discuss and those things clash with your worldview. It just sounds like you are trying to silence a poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:59 PM
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Physical indicators include things like: Crossed arms. A sign of defensiveness. Stiff posture. A sign of nervousness. Looking down. A sign of weakness. A man that looks down at the floor a lot is usually seen as shy or timid. Fidgeting. A sign of nervousness and anxiety. Fidgeting can include shredding or playing with items, sitting on or hiding your hands, playing or twiddling with your fingers, biting finger nails, tapping your feet etc. Slouching shoulders. Indicates a low self-esteem. Hands …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:43 PM
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Make yourself as attractive as possible - be fit, take care of your hair, dress well, etc. How is that any different from the "just go lift bro" statements that TRP is often accused of making? Learn social skills what particular skills should we learn that makes us sociable? Also there are guys who have done both of these and STILL have trouble getting laid or finding girlfriends. Tell me exactly what you would do as a guy if you were interested in a girl and wanted to sleep with her/wanted her …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:36 PM
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I also think TRP is pretty cult-like and damaging to people. It appeals to vulnerable men who have been hurt by women in the past. Why do you care if it's damaging to people? After all don't you find it amusing to listen to delusional/hurt people?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 02:36 PM
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One problem I have with all the other stuff to do with girls is just the generalising of them all. Saying stuff like awalt, avoid all single mothers etc. It's not their fault you're angry cause one girl broke your heart. I won't lie as there are some poisonous women out there (and men too), but it's not fair to say that about everyone. You just said in your first sentence that RP is harmless, so why should our opinions and generalizations bother you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 02:28 PM
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The solution to that is obvious, give him non-manipulative instructions on how to sleep with girls and get relationships THAT WORK AND ARE EXACT (none of that "just be yourself" crap or other vague bullshit we've been fed for ages). If you could do that TRP would crumble overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 02:23 PM
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Because the traits betas have are not what they are attracted to. Partner love cannot exist without attraction, that's what distinguishes it from parental love, love of siblings, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 02:01 PM
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Well yes exactly, getting the benefits and the rewards without the consequences or risks. Men have always had the associated obligations and risks that come with their privileges (see voting/selected services as an example) Why should women get it for nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 06:36 AM
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You are making statements you cannot corrorborate about people you don't know. Pretty sure I said something to that effect in my last paragraph which is in fact the point of the comment, all of the anti-redpill "examples" are personal stories which cannot be corroborated or checked for validity meaning anyone can just make shit up that conforms to their preset beliefs. Dick picks of gtfo. Well if you insist, what email should I send it to?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 05:58 AM
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The main argument of feminism is to create equal treatment among the sexes. That really means achieving the same benefits and rewards men have received throughout history. ".... while minimizing the risks and responsibilities that men have always had packaged with those benefits and rewards." is how the rest of the second sentence should have ended.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:57 AM
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Fear of dying alone vs being stuck in a passionless marriage. For some the passionless marriage is the lesser of the two evils to consider, that is to say the potential possibility of not finding someone and staying alone til you die is a much bigger evil than the relationship they are already in for some.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 12:41 AM
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I’ll bet she isn’t as pretty as you would have us believe and therefore is settling for the best she thinks she can get. Again I bet she isn’t as pretty as you would have us believe and therefore is settling for what she thinks she can get. And we are just going to take her word on it that she really fell in love with him despite her initially using him as an emotional tampon. That “love” is clearly part of the act. A spontaneous and unpredictable (read exciting) man who does his own thing and g…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 05:33 PM
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the author of this article is u/GoTomArrow who has responded to this thread and has in fact disavowed any association with TRP. To make the discussion easier on all of you, I never and at no place on my blog stated that I have anything to do with the red pill. If I did, I must have forgotten about it. I am not a franchise of any worldview. Your attempt to paint us with a particular brush has failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/15 05:06 PM
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However it implies that ONLY men who register for the draft should vote. It's always been like this, men who do not register for selective services do not legally have the right to vote (or receive federal aid) and yes some men are excluded which means they don't technically/legally have the right to vote (kind of like ex-cons who lose the right to vote for life). I don't see why being drafted should be the criteria for getting to vote, simply because whether one can be drafted or not is not a v…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 09:23 PM
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Whose refusing to answer? everything I've mentioned is in fact a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 01:12 PM
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I don't want to be a target of "game" or unwanted sexual advances. What should I do? continue to gain weight. cut your hair short. stop wearing makeup. wear a resting bitch-face all the time. ALL. THE. TIME. grow a leg-beard. talk about how men are constantly try to rape and oppress wom... oh wait this is from my list of how to be a feminist sorry sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 01:06 AM
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They'll never get of the carousel now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 12:59 AM
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"just be yourself" nice
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 06:15 PM
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What would you tell women to help them avoid being raped? Anything I would say would be considered victim blaming. What would you tell women to help prevent them from becoming rapists? A real rapist wouldn't care what is being said and the justice system is notoriously bad at prosecuting female rapists. What would you tell men to help them avoid being raped? Stay out of prison and avoid women who seem crazy. What would you tell men to help prevent them from becoming rapists? Again real rapists w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 06:13 PM
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So what's your plan if she decides to say you raped her to the media who will undoubtedly take her side and crucify you by your balls?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 10:25 PM
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So it's all fine and good if the individual saying misogynistic things is considered "cool" is it? It kind of lends support to what I was saying earlier, the "cool" Alpha can say damn near anything and it won't effect the level of pussy he gets, meanwhile a beta guy saying the same thing will get derision. The idea that their inability to get laid has anything to do with what they say is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 12:47 PM
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Or it could be because RP writes endlessly about how terrible women are at everything Rappers talk about how "bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks" all the time and that doesn't seem to affect the level of tail they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 05:26 PM
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Lets pretend I'm some neutral third party, like a journalist LOL a neutral journalist you crack me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 02:18 AM
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TRP Proves that All Men Need Female Validation You act like women don't need validation from men. Both sides need validation regardless of if the admit it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 02:07 AM
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The post is an illustration of a double standard all too common in divorce proceedings (i.e. the reaction a man gets when requesting alimony vs the reaction a woman gets doing the same thing). This is why the tag references it as a men's issue, it might not directly relate to Red Pill theory but external factors like this are often things that could effect how the theory is applied. Not to mention it reinforces the reason we say never marry by pointing out the fact that you as a man will not be …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 03:06 PM
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A medal would be fine thanks, preferably with the inscription "Lord of the Internet" but I'm not too particular about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 02:14 PM
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Thank you. Your resorting to ad hominem attacks means I win.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 05:01 AM
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What, exactly, does "be yourself" mean? Let's analyze the statement. The fact that the statement needs to be analyzed or assessed PROVES that it is terrible at being given instructional advice. Several hallmarks of a good set of instructions include elaborating on key concepts, making explicit connection, and establishing and communicating clear specific learning objectives for each point made (http://blogs.edweek.org/teachers/classroom_qa_with_larry_ferlazzo/2013/03/response_ten_elements_of_eff…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 01:37 PM
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Unlike you, I have sources to back up my statements. You have NO qualifications OR sources for making the statements that you do yet you expect people to just agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 12:29 PM
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you can't comprehend that sex isn't essential to health. Oh I'm sorry what are your qualifications for making such a statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 04:45 AM
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Heres a link defining hypoactive sexual desire disorder (HSDD) which is characterized by an aversion (lack of) sexual desire. Note that this page is sourced by the US national library of medicine and the national institute of health. Also note that they reference it as a DISORDER, as in "not normal". I hope this clears up my "qualifications": http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2695750/ Of course you don't really need to be a doctor to know that a lack of ANY given biological function is…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 04:13 AM
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A lack of the need to eat is unhealthy. A lack of the need to sleep is unhealthy. A lack of the need for self preservation is unhealthy. A lack of ANY given biological drive (including sexual) is unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 01:16 PM
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Because who else would define it - the Asexuals? They don't have a sex drive by definition. It would be like a blind person trying to describe color or a man trying to describe what it's like to have a vagina, they lack first hand experience on the given subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 03:50 AM
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People who have a sex drive to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 11:32 PM
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How to reconcile conflicting feminist perceptions You don't. Feminists are notorious for saying anything to win an argument, even if its something that runs contradictory to their supposed beliefs or what they said earlier in dialogue. It's a way of shutting down intelligent discussion so people will go with whatever bullshit they're spouting because "feels" is more important than reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 11:25 PM
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While there may be overlap but MRM and TRP are separate entities, regardless of what some people may claim. This isn't the first time Elam has tried to incorporate other parts of the manosphere into his cause (he tried the same thing with MGTOW a while back) doesn't mean we recognized him as some sort of leader or figurehead meaning that his blunder has no bearing on TRP whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 02:15 PM
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??? I agree with him did you mean to show this to the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 02:39 AM
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married men live longer, are healthier, earn more money and report higher happiness than unmarried men. Just how quantifiable is happiness that you can guarantee that its a product of marriage? The fact is their happiness is more likely to be a result of having more money as is living longer and being healthier since they have the resources to take care of themselves. In addition the fact that they have more money does not necessarily correlate with the fact that they are married. Women are know…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 01:56 PM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/15 01:28 PM
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I think people call it "healthy middle ground" The "middle ground" is a fraction of all marriages especially if you consider that more than half end in divorce and of the ones that are still going you don't know which ones are only continuing because the couples feel obligated to do so or the man doesn't want to lose everything he has worked for. It's a cop out to make the whole institution seem less risky when it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 11:03 PM
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Pardon me for not treating marriage like a Disney movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 07:33 PM
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Because divorce doesn't typically workout in the man's favor (i.e. divorce rape). In a lot of circumstances it is cheaper/easier to keep her around if you already married her before discovering TRP. Our philosophy is flexible enough to understand that some men will have already married AFTER the fact and will try to help/accommodate them accordingly (as opposed to just leaving them to their fate). So the steps in regards to marriage go like this: Step 1: Don't get married. Step 2: If you are alr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 05:31 PM
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Have you ever seen a woman even attempt to be romantic? To try winning over a guy through grand gestures of affection (i.e. proposing on one knee, taking a bullet for their significant other, pay for everything, etc)? No? Thought not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/15 11:35 AM
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TRP is typically anti-marriage so I don't know where you got the idea that we glorify it in any form.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 02:31 PM
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You've answered your own question: To be fair, we've had this obesity epidemic going on since the 20th century ended. A woman who was considered fat, ugly, or even hideous during the 20th century, when those songs were written, might be considered pretty today. If men's standards were really so high obese and ugly women wouldn't stand a chance, they would be in the same boat as betas not being able to generate even the least bit of attraction from their target. If anything I would argue that men…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/15 10:29 PM
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This has literally never happened to me. Meanwhile I'll provide evidence to corroborate what I am saying that isn't just my own personal experience: http://www.crunkfeministcollective.com/2012/07/02/asking-for-sex-what-do-you-do-when-the-guy-says-no/ http://the-toast.net/2015/07/13/emotional-labor/ http://www.businessinsider.com/confessions-how-she-made-1200-a-month-using-matchcom-2011-11 http://www.bustle.com/articles/22935-can-you-be-a-feminist-and-still-expect-guys-to-pay I also tend not to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 05:05 PM
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Western men are forgetting how much they suck, too. We have the media and feminists to constantly remind us of how much we suck so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 01:40 PM
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The fluidity of gender roles now allows more men to have a chance to be attractive while also showing off more of what type of person they truly are, which is pretty great as well. I disagree, the fluidity of gender roles allows WOMEN to be attractive while showing what type of person they are, MEN are still securely locked into their roles. Should they disregard said roles or challenge them they will be regarded as "not a real man". This isn't just from other men but women as well. I cannot tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 01:20 PM
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The environment that created TRP is dying off actually. Care to elaborate? Just because something is out of date doesn't mean its dying. In what ways are old masculinity dying? Also what is new masculinity and what examples do you have of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 05:13 AM
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I don't get how you didn't figure that out after high school. Because it's not as obvious as you would have us believe, especially when we spent our developing years hearing "just be ourselves and you'll meet a girl eventually". It's like giving someone vague instructions on how to complete a certain task and then being surprised when they didn't just "figure it out".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 04:57 AM
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TRP is the source of many negative and bitter ideas. By negative ideas do you mean hypergamy? or how about AF/BB? Even if "bitter" men came up with the concepts observing how women behave is what triggered the creation of said concepts to begin with. Even if you banned TRP and eliminated every single one of its members it'll come back, maybe not with the same name or lingo but the fundamental concepts would be the same. As long as there are men getting the shitty end of the deal when it comes to…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 04:42 AM
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So you go after the source. The source, in some cases, may be a place like TRP. So a new generation of men grow up, try dating, fail horribly at it, when they go looking for answers they are given the same useless garbage spouted by everyone (i.e. just be yourself), they turn to the internet, some of them start noticing the inconsistencies in what women do and say and start postulating reasons as to why that is. Don't be surprised when they come to the same conclusions that TRP did, its not the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 01:06 AM
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A couple just had their first child at the local hospital. Before they are discharged they are taken to the nursery where all of the newborns are being held. They notice that none of the infants have name tags or ways of identifying which couple they belonged to. When they question the local nurse about identification she says that identification is not necessary because you can take any one of the infants home, after all "bloodlines" are not important in modern society. Is the nurse wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/15 03:03 PM
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That's a gigantic stretch. From my perspective it is hardly a stretch, any migration between two cultures that are radically different will force the individual making the jump to adapt to the prevailing culture or face being ostracized. In the time it takes for you to adjust to the new culture you could be considered abnormal by someone already familiar with said culture, if only because you just transferred and are not familiar with all of the social customs and norms, its a "temporary" maladj…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 05:01 AM
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Actually, being "socially adjusted" is normal. It's pretty much the literal definition of being normal. If you were to be dropped of in some 3rd world country with its own views of what "normal" entails do you think you would pass on all accounts or be considered "socially adjusted", I doubt it. You may even be reprimanded for many of your distinctly "western" ideas. The concept of "normal" and "socially adjusted" is relative to the culture you live in, it's why people experience culture shock. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 04:22 AM
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Actually, being able to fool said gut instinct is very bad and very dangerous. No one wants a relationship with a psychopath, I think every pill can agree on that. Then its a no win situation, you don't want someone sociopathic enough to fool your gut instinct yet you will weed out and reject anyone who may accidentally trigger it even if they are a good person. Meanwhile the sociopath who is an expert actor has no problem getting around your defenses without the gut reaction going off. Again it…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 10:45 PM
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You just said that all it takes to fool this ability is a little good acting. Meaning anyone with enough training in acting can fool it. Also you said someone who CAN'T fool your gut instinct is displaying a bad sign, why? In fact how is someone being able to fool your gut instinct a good sign to begin with? Just because someone has enough self control to act in a manner that is attractive to you does not mean they won't harm you. Also define "off". Like the concept of women's intuition it's rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 06:37 PM
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Nope, it doesn't work on psychopaths because they're such good actors. Like I said, they can fool machines. Correction they can fool the person operating the machine, the machine itself (i.e. the lie detector) only tells you things like their heart rate, breathing etc, and lets you infer that someone may be lying based on the fluctuations of these measurements. As I said before the skill is useless if it only takes a little bit of good acting to get past it. Acting is a skill that can be learned…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 05:56 PM
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Your "gut instinct" is useless then because the men you need it to detect the most (i.e. Psychopaths) can fool it with relative ease. It also doesn't explain why women are willing to fraternize (writing love letters, etc) with men who are KNOWN criminals. You can't blame that on not having psychic powers, why doesn't this gut instinct kick in at that point? The truth is it only really works against guys you don't find attractive to begin with in which case its less about if the man is a danger a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 11:16 PM
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Is that why women couldn't tell that Ted Bundy was dangerous? Or how about women who write love letters to CONFIRMED serial killers? Your evolved ability is a farce, it can be so easily overridden if the guy in question provides the tingles or is alpha enough. This is another one of those made up super powers women like to pretend they have when in fact if your charismatic enough they won't be able to tell (or more than likely won't care) if your dangerous or not. So to answer your statement; no…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/15 05:37 AM
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You don't keep an extensive list of potential soldiers up to date if you never plan on using it. Just because it hasn't been implemented for 50 years doesn't mean that they wouldn't activate it tomorrow if they needed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 01:26 PM
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A female supremacy ideology that needs to be purged. They wear a facade of equality even while promoting inequality that would benefit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 10:52 PM
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As men our ability to vote is tied to selective services whereas women get it by virtue of being born a woman. Equality would dictate that either you remove selective services being a requirement for men, add selective services as a requirement for women, or remove women's right to vote. TL:DR until women start signing up for selective services they should not have the right to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 01:50 AM
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She loves that Im not the typical swaggering, "dominant" male who only cares about himself. Of course she does, your more likely to put resources towards her children. If you were a "swaggering" ladies man she couldn't guarantee that. If fact I'll bet that if you asked her to describe her past boyfriends or her baby daddy you'll find that he IS the swaggering "dominant" male type. Once she had children with the guy she really wanted she started looking for a meal ticket.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 06:05 AM
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She's not chatting with her friends when she says something like "Baby I wish you would open up a little more" directly to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 02:37 PM
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It's a shit test just like when a woman says she wants her man to be more emotional. Ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 04:36 AM
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I have dated the "alpha", and I have also dated the "beta" I'll bet you slept with the alpha while making the beta "work" for it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 06:45 AM
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There are women who don't wear makeup? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/15 06:29 AM
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Star wars and Marvel movies are popular, yaoi is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 09:08 PM
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The problem any type of "laws of robotics" is that it assumes nobody is smarter than the engineers who make said robots and couldn't either figure out how to program the robot to ignore these "laws" or build one that will. The same is true here. Even if they manufacture robots that would follow preset rules about not allowing sex it wouldn't take long before someone "jailbreaks" one to get around the constraint.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/15 08:23 PM
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All you've proven is that women really do only find the top 10% of men attractive and ignore the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 04:41 PM
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Being alpha means being in a position of power, having the power to chose (having a take it or leave it attitude) and not just being comfortable with what you are handed. That said if you live in the western world then you as a man definitely lose power whenever you enter a relationship. Marriage is inherently one-sided in favor of women where they can take you for everything your worth at a moments notice, restrict you from seeing your kids, lie to the courts about abuse and get away with it, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/15 04:28 PM
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<Throws Chalice>
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 06:05 PM
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your post has it's own zip code
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 05:17 AM
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Where do I sign up?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 04:00 PM
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First off you started your question under the premise that women don't know what they're doing when they go for men who are assholes, that they are being "tricked" and that once the truth is revealed they will come to despise guys who display these traits. The reality is that they do know what they are doing regardless of if they admit it to themselves or not. The truth is they love those traits no matter what. regardless of if it becomes public knowledge and regardless of if they openly admit t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/15 12:54 AM
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Mind you most women who have heard of negging think that it means to straight up insult your target versus friendly teasing and dread only really works if there is some spark of attraction to begin with. Guys would more than likely see it as a ugly woman being rude and would not shed a tear at her departure if she threatens to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/15 05:53 AM
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You didn't answer my question: In general women are physically weaker then men does that mean we should write laws that say women can't work in certain occupations because they are weaker then men in said occupations? How well do you think that would go over? Your argument in regards to race pretty much boils down to discrimination is A OK provided it has some sort of biological basis, regardless of the wishes of those involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 05:29 PM
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So your saying that there are absolutely no differences between the races where one might be able to write laws that determine what they can and cannot do? Hell it doesn't have to be anything like intelligence or physical capabilities it could just be based on genetic predisposition (the possibility of contracting a given disease or disorder would be enough). The same is true for gender. In general women are physically weaker then men does that mean we should write laws that say women can't work…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 02:21 PM
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Now now, if we started writing the laws to conform with biology there are a lot of other nasty little things that could be justified (i.e. legally sanctioned racism, sexism, etc) using biological differences as justification.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/15 05:44 AM
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If she lives somewhere with lifetime alimony or alimony that extends for a a significant portion of time then the answer is obvious. She can now sleep around with the alpha's she really desires without any issue while still keeping her lifestyle as it is courtesy of her beta bucks. It's the logical conclusion to AF/BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 08:00 PM
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Probably because she'll take everything he owns in the divorce if he does leave and will make it near impossible to see his children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 12:07 PM
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So your saying when it comes to catcalling AWALT? They all hate it? Personally I think a lot of women complain about catcalling as a type of humblebrag. If that 10 hours walking New York video is the norm the vast majority of what women call harassment is guys wishing them a good day or saying they are beautiful with maybe one or two guys being over the top rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 02:40 PM
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And you think responding to him is going to make him or any of the rest of TRP stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 02:21 PM
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A more correct statement would be that marriage doesn't guarantee a steady supply of sex. Then why get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 02:03 PM
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I find it a huge waste of time to even try and debate you. But that's your whole reason for being here, to tell us we're wrong, to tell us our views are false. If that wasn't the case you wouldn't have bothered to post anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 12:27 PM
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If you wanted to argue you could have gone to literally any other sub that allows you to do so. The fact that you choose this particular topic on this particular sub indicates that it does to some extent matter to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 12:21 PM
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Wow, you found us faster than I thought you would.
/r/TheRedPill28/08/15 11:12 AM
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Because the vast majority of SJW are hypocrites. For example, if you showed them an example of a woman being beaten by a man they would be outraged. If however you showed them an example of the reverse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlFAd4YdQks They will cheer and applaud the woman, perhaps even make a joke. They are not for true equality in these fields but special privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:25 PM
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Why would I treat my mom like she's trying to kill me? Because given the right conditions she just might have tried like this woman: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/27a9571efc6842fda400d2e29ee65a16/prosecutor-mom-not-legal-system-blame-sons-deaths This is only one instance in a long line of examples of women abusing if not outright killing their children. Given similar circumstances (The most notable being the Casey Anthony trials) its not hard to follow that women in general (including our own m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/15 03:03 PM
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Men please stop DISCOUNTING women's personal experiences! You first. Women are the masters of discounting men's personal experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 02:51 PM
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The so called "strong capable partner" will still branch swing just as quickly as the meek submissive woman, therefore the outcome is the same no matter who you choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 08:11 PM
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Black women continue their blood lines because men are obviously finding them attractive and marrying/raising families with them. Is that why there is a single mother epidemic in the black community? Just because your reproducing doesn't mean the men you are reproducing with are sticking around long enough to marry or raise a family with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 12:38 PM
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It's not hard they just have a vested interested in pretending that what sexually attracts women is the same thing that sexually attracts a man. Just imagine the ugly chick who throws herself into her work or hobbies in the blind hope that these will one day will pay off and result in a man finding her just as attractive as her pretty friends, attractive enough to be asked out and go on dates. She hopes that her hobbies and interests will make her attractive to the opposite sex because that is w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 11:38 PM
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I literally want to fuck a girl who can explain what the kernels of the heat equation are harder. Even if she looked like Andrea Dworkin?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 05:46 PM
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why don't they add to sexual attractiveness. Because that's not how men work. Never has been, never will be. If you want to be a doctor be a doctor, just don't expect that to be what men find sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 05:38 PM
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If they both look exactly the same and their personalities are similar then yes. I think you've forgotten what the S in SEXUAL MARKET VALUE stands for. The fact that a woman has a PH.D does not affect my sexual attraction to her. This seems to be something that women have a hard time grasping, your accomplishments have little to no affect on if a man wants to bang you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 03:23 PM
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And he's absolutely right, having impressive achievements might impress a man but it won't increase his attraction to you. If your a fat tub of lard don't expect your list of achievements will make him more attracted to you. What will increase a mans attraction to you is being more feminine, thin, etc. TL:DR Being impressed with you achievements=/= Being more attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 01:00 PM
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That's what it really comes down to doesn't it, the advice given by TRP doesn't kowtow to social norms and yet still works. You wouldn't care so much about it if it flat out failed at getting results or was as useless as conventional wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 03:03 PM
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When they try bettering themselves (i.e. learn TRP) they are shamed by self-righteous twats. And then the very same people have the nerve to blame them for not bettering themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/15 04:39 AM
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Women only see the elite 20 percent of the male population and ignore the other 80 percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 11:42 PM
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The fact that so many men are starved for love, sex, and affection means many are willing to settle for any scraps they can get. Not a day goes by on the TRP subreddit where you don't hear about some schmuck getting played by a land whale.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 11:38 PM
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A lot of men don't mind at all. This ties in to what TRP talks about, status alone is not enough to turn off a majority of men as most are thirsty Beta's. Its laughable to think otherwise. Hell I'd argue that she could still get guys even if she was both fat AND low status because the number of desperate men willing to take her. You couldn't say the same for an unattractive male in the same position.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 07:36 PM
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a fat lazy NEET woman would be just as unattractive as the male variant. This hypothetical NEET woman would be unattractive because she is FAT not because she was a NEET. If she was good looking her status would be irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/15 06:39 PM
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Sure it is. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 11:39 PM
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Anything Beyonce sings would be ridiculed if reversed: All the single "gents" - she doesn't owe you anything you entitled prick! Who runs the world - What a misogynistic A-hole! If I were a "girl" - LOL man up faggot and quite whining! Halo - Stop treating her like a manic-pixie dream girl come to save you you misogynistic fuckwad! This could keep going.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 05:10 PM
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An aggravated assault requires the infliction of a permanent injury that "wounds, maims, disfigures or endangers the life" of your victim. So your saying that as long as my method of attack doesn't cause permanent injury, does not wound-maime-disfigure or otherwise kill the person I attacked I can't get in trouble with the law? Good to know. There are quite a few things that can be done that satisfy those conditions but I'm sure I would still be charged with aggravated assault if I did them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/15 02:28 PM
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It's kind of like men saying how they like a woman's natural look without makeup. It's a comforting thought but you know better than to believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 04:44 AM
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So basically your doing what women have always done.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 04:29 AM
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Women do not have the associated obligation to sign up for selective services which is a requirement for men to vote or receive any kind of government assistance. From a position of fairness and equality the government either needs to A) remove selective services as a requirement for men to vote and receive aid, B) force women to sign up for selective services to be eligible to vote just like men, or C) remove women's right to vote all together. TL;DR women have a the right to vote without the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/15 04:43 PM
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I'm still trying to figure out how Black men are more privileged than white women in her hierarchy, it really takes a special kind of delusion to get to that point.
/r/MensRights15/07/15 10:41 PM
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My question is how can you have an open and honest discussion WITHOUT free speech, especially when someone starts being "open" and "honest" in a way you don't like and you censor them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 02:13 AM
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Can any MRAs please explain why you think Feminism opposes the rights of men? Aside from them actively trying to shut down events addressing men's issues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0 inB4 "Those aren't REAL feminists".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 05:01 PM
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Like several other posters have said your premise is faulty. You are attempting to hold a mirror up to TRP in an attempt to show how bad it is but the image you show is not an accurate reflection. Guys who can get relationships and sex with ease have no real use for RP. In an accurate reflection the starting point would have been before we got together. The girl would have to win my affections using the techniques she learned from her online website and then only after winning me over would I fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 06:08 PM
1

It's not exactly feminist, although it is crawling with them oh really? Men have terrible impulse control and are basically unstable children. The whole "Teach men not to rape" campaign kind of implies this. A looooot of horror stories of guys misbehaving. You would think you were actively out to get women. Feminists acting like men are the devil is nothing new, they look for the absolute worst case scenarios to prove things like "rape culture" and "patriarchy" exist. The major difference betwee…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 04:54 PM
5

You know you've done something wrong when the Bible flat out calls you on your bullshit.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/14 12:06 AM
1

Your clearly in the minority who thinks that friend. This link was re-posted 2 hours after I initially made this post with similar comments made. It has over 100 up-votes.
/r/TheRedPill01/11/14 02:36 PM
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Of course, the question remains as to why they tried it in the first place. And will some other college try it again? They probably thought it would be a good tool against "the war on rape" without taking into consideration that women in general aren't to keen at giving out that type of information. In fact I'm willing to bet that it was women who put the most complaints out in regards to the policy as there is too much liability for that information to fall into the wrong hands.
/r/MensRights20/09/14 04:07 PM
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Assuming this doesn't just apply to the men going to this university I doubt it will get very far. Can anyone imagine women giving up information about who they've slept with, how many people they've slept with, and what sexual acts they have done without there being mass outrage (especially from the feminists).
/r/MensRights19/09/14 06:36 PM
1

delaying the inevitable because sooner or later you will have to play the game Yeah I'm curious like /u/Monkey_Jerk why is it inevitable?
/r/TheRedPill14/09/14 06:00 PM
1

Women actually seem to. Something to do with phermones. Pretty sure that's bullshit, women can't even tell the difference between a man who just wants to sleep with them verses one that wants to chop them up and stick their dismembered corpse in a fridge somewhere let alone which men are having sex. Unless they are outright told that a specific guy is a virgin/not having sex they can only speculate on the matter.
/r/TheRedPill02/09/14 04:09 AM
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Wait is this the same ex-girlfriend who in your last post threatened to kill herself?
/r/TheRedPill29/08/14 03:32 PM
1

If you are in a position where you are financially able to do so, consider donating a symbolic 23% of your income to social justice-oriented causes. I can see it now: "Honey, I know you wanted me to buy you those earrings you wanted for your birthday but the feminists said I should donate 23% of my income to social charities so other women can spend the money instead, I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND".
/r/MensRights06/08/14 12:51 AM
1

There is only one reason to get married, and that's to continue a family legacy. That means kids. Didn't realize you couldn't get a woman pregnant without a marriage contract. And don't tell me about how it will negatively impact the children if you don't get married, they'll get fucked up when she divorces you anyway. Better to only pay child support, than to pay child support AND alimony.
/r/TheRedPill30/07/14 07:38 PM
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Never gets old I guess..... "...Unlike the woman in the article" was the punchline I was expecting.
/r/TheRedPill28/07/14 05:59 PM
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MRA provide some very good facts to counter the whole "feminism helps men" bullshit that goes around now days. Even on this board we occasionally get some woman spouting off this tired cliche. It's very satisfying shutting them down with a few well placed facts courtesy of the MRA's.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/14 01:36 PM
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It's a satire that's only funny because its true to a certain extent. Like I said before I was responding to the underlying truth in his skit. I fail to see how it being a satire makes my initial point any less relevant.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 04:18 AM
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Yes, a comedy routine that's rooted in a true to life "it gets better" speech that people do in fact give to young men. In fact I'm willing to bet there is/will be a TED talk somewhere that does something similar to what Louis CK was describing.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 08:24 PM
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Of course, doesn't make what I said any less relevant. I've had people give me almost the exact same speech "Don't worry, when you get older women will come looking for you". It's the underlying truth in comedy that I am responding to.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 07:41 PM
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Worst "It gets better" speech ever. Pardon me if I'm not jumping for joy that some women is settling for me because she doesn't have any better options. The kind of woman that settles is the type that will endlessly compare you to the men she really wanted to be with, she'll resent the fact that your not like them and will make you suffer for it. I'll take dying alone over that tripe.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 03:57 PM
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Doesn't mean I would go around encouraging gents to get married, if he is stupid enough to get married after watching this then sure he deserves whatever he gets, he can't claim that he is an unsuspecting victim after that.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 04:36 PM
1

The best way to crash this predatory system is to not get married.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 12:50 PM
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The goal of feminism is to make a society where men and women are as “Equal” as possible. Here is a run down of a post submitted 3 years ago in the Men's Rights sub that points out what bullshit your argument is: (title)Feminists tell you that the solution to men's issues is more feminism. In reality, feminists fight against men's issues.(title) "Recently we've had some articles by feminists such as Amanda Marcotte and Hugo Schywzer arguing that the solution to men's issues is more feminism. All…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/14 02:26 AM
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I have no doubt that it wouldn't deter them just saying it's a pyrrhic victory for the invading nation, at best they sustain heavy damages both military and civilian (leaving them open to attack from other opportunistic countries), at worse they are left with a conquered nuclear wasteland which is uninhabitable and therefore worthless to settle on (assuming they respond in kind with nukes).
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 02:28 AM
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So it becomes another example of their hypocrisy but comes at the price of losing a valuable men's program.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 07:24 PM
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It is far more costly for you to take revenge/attempt to control a man with nothing to lose than it is to just leave him alone (you have more to lose than he does). With a fractured government the invading nation doesn't know who is holding the trigger to the countries nuclear arsenal. In this case the economical and political gains that may come from taking over another country may be overshadowed by the cost of the military campaign and the restructuring the invading country would have to impl…
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 07:04 PM
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They already proved they were against equality long ago.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 06:46 PM
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And then the feminists will argue that the program isn't focusing enough on women and it gets turned into another women's program thereby rendering its original objective obsolete.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 12:29 PM
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I always figured that numbers become irrelevant if one or both side has a weapon that can reduce entire cities and populations to rubble. A country on the verge of collapse is like a man with nothing to lose: both are unpredictable and trying to contain or take control of either is very risky business.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/14 05:09 PM
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it's just that feminists have been using stuff that Elam Actually wrote as representative of the movement in general. Oh please, the feminists would use stuff that Elam has said against us even if we disassociated from him. Heck they've been trying to associate us with other movements/individuals that have nothing to do with MRA like TRP and Elliot Rodgers.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 07:49 PM
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How is this any different from "theredpill" and NAWALT (Not all women are like that)? TheRedPill has never claimed to be about equality between the genders, Feminism has. The fact that feminists are spewing hate-rhetoric that is supposedly on the level of TRP "misogyny" shows just how much of a hate movement it has become.
/r/MensRights19/05/14 05:21 PM
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We earn our value in this world, it is not something we are born with, contrary to popular opinion. Unless of course your born as a woman (especially pretty women). In that case your have your value handed to you at birth. Sure the wall may deplete their value but since they have a vagina there will always be some thirsty beta waiting for them because they still consider her valuable.
/r/TheRedPill11/04/14 01:43 PM
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She probably has human compassion for a man she considers human. That's kind of a catch 22 isn't it? If a man that she considers human ever gets to a point in which he would need to rely on her sense of human compassion she will lose attraction for him and eventually not consider him human anymore, at which point she loses her compassion for him. Better to say women have no compassion for men if they make a mistake in any way (which men will because they are human).
/r/TheRedPill11/04/14 01:37 PM
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You'll probably cry foul, whine and complain or maybe you'll gloat and call me names or insult my character or any other number little joys you'll derive from this little back and forth we've had. I have no need to do that, it's fine if you want to leave everything as it is. Just remember, in the future if your going to be arguing/debating with MRAs you will eventually have to deal with my way of debating as other Men's Rights Activists will make some of the exact same points and reach the exact…
/r/MensRights04/04/14 12:35 PM
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I tend to agree, even with the roles reversed I couldn't justify treating someone who hasn't done me wrong like that for something so trivial. I would be more inclined to learn how to do it on my own if it were really that important to me rather than force myself and the other person to go through something like that.
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 04:02 AM
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take your time
/r/MensRights03/04/14 10:39 PM
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What "real arguments" are you presenting? How about the the ideology of feminism being inherently misandric. What's my proof you may ask? How about one of feminism's precious and most fundamental theories: patriarchy. The idea that women have been (and still are) systematically oppressed by men and that most (if not all) men benefit from this system of oppression (While blatantly ignoring areas in which women historically held the advantage). And if that not enough for you some people (who btw d…
/r/MensRights03/04/14 08:46 PM
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I am not going to do the legwork and walk you through the history, aims, goals and multifacited ideas of a whole philosophy just so you can continually tell me it is all wrong. I'm not asking for a complete history of the feminist movement or any of their philosophies, just a logical counter argument to the few points I have brought up so far. This should be easy for someone as educated on feminism such as yourself. The real truth is that you like picking easy targets (like Veyron) who you know …
/r/MensRights03/04/14 07:25 PM
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If you think all of feminism is inherently misandrist then you're damaged goods, friend. So that's how you plan on ending a debate, with an ad hominem? It's mere proof that you have nothing to counter my arguments with and that your not really interested in the robust and open discussion that you claim you want. If my assertion that feminism at its core is misandric is wrong then it should be easy for you, someone who is clearly more educated on feminism to refute it. What a great way to dismiss…
/r/MensRights03/04/14 06:39 PM
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You're confusing all feminism with women who are misandrists I've made no such mistake, from the very beginning I have declared that feminist =/= woman. As stated in my very first comment one is a ideology and the other is a biologically identified group. That being said I do believe that feminism as an ideology is inherently misandric and therefore any practitioners (feminists) can only be of two kind: the woefully ignorant and the truly misandric.This is true regardless of their gender. Any we…
/r/MensRights03/04/14 04:56 PM
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binary star systems with planets are possible: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumbinary_planet
/r/MensRights03/04/14 12:18 PM
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neither of us are wrong or right. We're just two people exchanging ideas on the internet--equals in this sense. But I contend that the ideas he shares concerning women and their place in society are fundamentally wrong Neither of you are wrong or right but he is more fundamentally wrong? On this sub we tend to call that doublespeak. You act like you are conceding a point or finding common ground when in truth you still believe on some basic level that he is "fundamentally wrong" and will make it…
/r/MensRights03/04/14 01:42 AM
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In your earlier response you said Veyron was free to post things he does because its the internet (At which point it is his right to use the internet as such). In your later post you then say he doesn't (or shouldn't) have the right to come to this site and post the things he does. This flies completely in the face of the former post. So which is it? Is Veyron allowed to freely write whatever he want regardless of how "misogynistic" it is or does he not have that right and should therefore be ce…
/r/MensRights02/04/14 08:24 PM
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but nothing really gives him "the right" to come on this site and post the things he does... You know what the beautiful thing about the internet is? The beautiful thing about the internet is that I can do that, just like Veyron can freely write the things he does. So which is it? edit: let's be honest here since we both know your going to resort to nitpicking terms, he has the right to say what he wants (free speech) without being censored regardless of how "misogynistic" it is.
/r/MensRights02/04/14 08:10 PM
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I'm only trying to get him to confront and question his ignorance. Let's say for the sake of argument he really is ignorant. What exactly gives you the right to assume the role of teacher? What qualifications do you have that justifies that position of authority? You may have the ability to preach to others about how wrong they are suppose to be but it doesn't mean people have to accept your ideological beliefs, no matter how superior you think it is to theirs.
/r/MensRights02/04/14 07:32 PM
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I'm not going to try to cherry pick the shittiest most reactionary aspects of a group and then try to claim that they represent the majority. No you'd never do that. Miss labeling a clearly non-MRA site in an effort smear Men's Rights groups in general is more your thing (if your ever called on it you can just claim you made the association in error amiright).
/r/MensRights02/04/14 06:43 PM
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For starters Feminists =/= women, ones an ideology and the other is a biologically identified group. Second you shouldn't stalk others (as is evident in your posting history with Veyron) just because they don't buy into your feminist talking points.
/r/MensRights02/04/14 06:36 PM
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Did you record the reactions of the women when you tried it. If so it would be awesome to compare and contrast between what you observed and what was shown on the site.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 01:37 PM
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Sure... If your willing to risk getting caught by law enforcement (seeing as how prostitution is illegal in most of the western world). The fact that a man would have to pay and put himself at risk with law enforcement for something that women can get by just spreading her legs underlines the point I made earlier: women's version of forever alone (i.e. sex/relationships without commitment) is a better option than men's version of forever alone (no sex. no relationships. no intimacy. no commitmen…
/r/TheRedPill06/03/14 05:40 PM
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Very true.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/14 01:00 PM
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A man can probably be perfectly happy with having sex with a different girl every night and not seeing them through the rest of the day. A woman doing the same would feel alone. If they thought just getting pumped and dumped was lonely imagine how they would react if they couldn't even get that (thereby cutting off their supply of sex). From what I've observed women don't take sexual rejection too well. It would essentially relegate them to the position of the beta males they despise so much. Th…
/r/TheRedPill06/03/14 12:54 PM
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A reoccurring theme that I see pop up time and again is the woman who has just gotten out of a "bad" relationship and is fearful that she won't be able to find another man to get with and will therefore be FOREVER ALONE. Regardless of if the relationship was considered "bad" or not it does seem to indicate that a guy was willing to put up with the woman's bullshit for longer than it takes to have a ONS. As to the "quality" of guy they are dating I wouldn't be able to tell you off hand but I am w…
/r/TheRedPill06/03/14 12:31 PM
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So their forever alone-ness is self-inflicted. If they want to stay at home thereby avoiding all the cruelties of the dating market that's all fine and good but it seems absurd that they would then turn around and start complaining about their decision. Besides how hard is it to avoid the "frat PUA types" they should be easy enough to spot from a mile away.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/14 12:17 PM
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Exactly, yet we are suppose to feel sorry for them even when the deck is stacked in their favor.
/r/TheRedPill06/03/14 05:55 AM
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It's not so much a competition as it is an underlining of what women consider forever alone and what men consider forever alone. A woman goes on a few dates gets a couple of random hook ups, but not with guys she actually wanted, and its "OMG I am soo FOREVER ALONE!!!". Meanwhile guys could go YEARS without intimacy of ANY kind be it relationships,sex, etc yet we are suppose to feel sorry for women?
/r/TheRedPill06/03/14 05:53 AM
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I work two jobs, cook, clean, maintain house, and paying the bills. All things that he could do on his own if he wasn't being a lazy slacker, proving my initial point about women not really having anything to offer a man other than sex. It's all about the mentality of the person. Very true, if a woman thinks she can do better she will leave at the drop of a hat no matter what you do or say to her. If she doesn't have any better prospects (or believes she doesn't) then she will stay put until a b…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/14 04:41 PM
1

still a loving woman offers a lot. could you clarify a bit more on that?
/r/TheRedPill05/03/14 02:50 AM
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a good woman offers love. "Women are utterly incapable of loving a man in the way that a man expects to be loved. " - Women in Love, Rollo Tomassi (in required reading section) My understanding of how women love is that they love you only in as much as you are useful to them. If you for whatever reason stop being useful or they find a better tool hypergamy dictates that they will "swing to another branch".
/r/TheRedPill04/03/14 05:16 PM
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This made me realize that, aside from sex, she has nothing to offer me This is true for most women as discussed in a thread on the RPW subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/1ttpa0/hey_rp_women_my_friend_asked_what_value_can_women/ aside from sex women generally don't have anything they can offer that men couldn't otherwise get for themselves if they really wanted it.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/14 03:54 PM
1

If you want kids, what's the alternative? To have them without signing a legally binding contract (i.e. marriage license). As far as I know you can still sleep with and impregnate a woman without having the state get involved. In addition your plan doesn't guarantee that you will get custody of the children, only that you have a slightly better chance of getting them. Personally I would prefer only paying is child support (As oppose to Alimony + Child support + legal fees for ending the marriage…
/r/TheRedPill02/03/14 04:57 PM
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As for children, marriage does give you some leverage when fighting for custody. So your saying that you should get married so that when you eventually divorce you have a better chance of getting the kids? If you already knew it was going to fail why bother with it?
/r/TheRedPill02/03/14 04:43 PM
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children, chance to develop one of the deepest possible connections with another human being. You don't need a marriage contract to do either of those things.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/14 04:31 PM
1

Someone who is happy is generally content as well. It is very hard to manipulate those who are content as they are happy with what they have/who they are. With this perspective it makes perfect sense why women don't want men to be happy/content because they become that much harder to manipulate.
/r/TheRedPill26/02/14 06:43 PM
1

The truth will come out either way. Sure, but the vast majority of people will not accept it unless otherwise forced to. TRP is proof of that, no matter what concepts we talk about or how true our words the vast majority of people won't accept it unless otherwise forced to, which brings up an interesting question: Is it ethically wrong to force someone to accept/face something even if it is true? And if so what gives you the right as an individual to force the truth on those who don't want to be…
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 09:21 PM
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The real question is what are you going to do with this inconvenient truth. Are you going to use it to declare your superiority over another group or individual? Regardless of if a piece of information is true or not what actually matters is how people will use it. Let's suppose you knew a piece of information that would otherwise destroy society/cause great social upheaval which will cause millions of deaths if it were ever made public (i.e. how to create nuclear weapons for dirt cheap/hack any…
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 03:45 PM
1

Black people being less intelligent on average does not mean that they are all best utilized in a less than equal capacity and should not be used as an excuse for discrimination. Oh but it will be, that's just human nature. People who DO have an axe to grind against a certain group will cling to anything they believe will justify their discrimination against said group.
/r/TheRedPill19/02/14 06:06 AM
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"Lisa Wade is a professor of sociology at Occidental College. You can follow her on Twitter, Facebook, or at her blog, Sociological Images." "professor of sociology at Occidental College" "Occidental College" Isn't that the college that attempted to make that anonymous online rape reporting tool? If so we may have found the person responsible for pushing for this in the first place.
/r/MensRights17/01/14 02:37 AM
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puppies are a tool of the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights07/01/14 09:32 PM
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I take it that your a troll as you have not bothered to read the side bar. If you had you would have noted that this has been asked on numerous occasions (Breaking the Glasses link): http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1rucx8/how_can_we_find_common_ground/ http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1gfam5/meta_common_ground_bw_feminismmrm/ https://pay.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/15fu6x/something_i_think_we_all_should_read_because_i/ http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/k4nh3…
/r/MensRights05/01/14 08:12 PM
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The exception is that for some reason he's got this somewhat irrational hatred for MGTOWs. Better question to ask is what does he/she gain from discouraging men from going their own way and therefore not becoming a slave to the system? I think someone's meal ticket/ divorce revenue/ government day job may be in jeopardy if MGTOW is allowed to grow and spread.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/13 07:08 PM
1

I reckon we should go on a false flag operation around reddit blasting us just so more people can find us. I like your style sir.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/13 06:01 PM
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At least until reality bitch slaps them hard enough to where people can see how much they were bullshitting. It's one thing to be egotistical when it's backed by substantial evidence that you really are the best at whatever it is you are doing. It's quite another when you have that same egotism and you KNOW you don't have the qualifications to back it. And sure the majority of people are dumb enough to keep following someone even when there is proof that the leader is bullshitting their credenti…
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/13 01:28 AM
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Could you elaborate more on how you have attached to him?
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/13 12:41 AM
1

agreed
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/13 12:31 AM
0

So your intent is what, to remind us of our place? Not at all, as I've mentioned in another comment I was curious on how you (as a sub) handle Red Pill truths that don't necessarily paint women in a positive light. For example when you are faced with the concept of hypergamy what do you do: A) explain how you are different from women who do follow their hypergamous nature. B) claim that the specific line of questioning does not add anything productive to the conversation in an effort to dismiss …
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/13 12:09 AM
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People who act egotistical are easy targets for reality to bitch slap at any moment.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 11:54 PM
1

of course
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 05:31 PM
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What I'm trying to get at is whether or not you feel it's possible for a female human being to act consciously instead of submitting without thought to her 'basic nature' (however one defines that)? It is... but she'll have to prove it. While it is nice to think that RPW is self-selecting it is naive to think every women that comes here has the noble goal of improving dialog and interaction between men and women. There's no telling the damage a woman with a firmer understanding of male/female re…
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 05:27 PM
1

I realize that RPW is different in that it was established as its own separate board specifically for women (most likely to prevent the situation I described from occurring). It's just the nature of online boards as I have seen them: men create a sub/forum/board discussing something, women eventually join and change the dialog entirely. I'm not saying that the same is bound to happen to TRP just that its what I have witnessed in the past. While RPW is not TRP it did come about as a result of TRP…
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 05:10 PM
1

Why on earth would you assume these women, who belong to a group specifically meant to denounce feminism and encourage bonding with one mate, are full of it when they say they are loyal? Because I've seen similar things happen in other subs and other places and even for other movements on the internet in general: 1) Woman shows up and says she support whatever cause is going on. 2) She becomes easily offended at something that has been said or done regardless of if it has been intentional or not…
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 06:08 AM
1

If I were to believe basic Red Pill (hypergamy and the "Alpha fucks, Beta bucks" dynamic which are corner stones of the entire philosophy) then yes I would believe it to be in a woman's basic nature to cheat or trade up whenever it was convenient for her. To deny that hypergamy exists is to deny the basic premise of TRP. That's what I find interesting about this sub. Here is a sub populated by women who say that this basic tenant of TRP is false (or at the very least doesn't apply to them). If t…
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 05:47 AM
0

It's not that they shouldn't have it on their list of traits they have to offer a man its that I consider loyalty the trait of an exception and anyone who declares that they have/offer it is also declaring themselves an exception. essentially it's the equivalent of saying "LOOK AT ME I'm not like those OTHER women. NOT. AT. ALL". The problem is that every woman says that regardless of if she truly is an exception or not. Hell a FEMINIST will say shes not like other women if she thinks she'll get…
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 05:10 AM
2

Of course.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 05:01 AM
3

Has anything people have been saying to you on this thread made an impact? I hope so, but I'm not entirely sure because it's hard to tell. It has. Like I said in another comment I was more curious than anything else. I wanted to see how RPW handles various tenants of the TRP philosophy, specifically ones that don't paint women in a very positive light. Normal female reaction to hearing anything critical about women (regardless of if it is deserved or not) is to defend the actions of the group or…
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 05:01 AM
2

8 - it both matches what I have seen and experienced as well as gives a clear and realistic explanation for various dating/relationship phenomenon that I would have otherwise considered baffling back in my blue pill days. However there is room for learning in the event additional information is brought up which is why I don't rate is at a 10.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 04:50 AM
1

While I'm sure that their own code of ethics, personality, self interest plays a part in them not cheating on their LTR society still stigmatizes men greatly when they do participate in such actions. And in the event that the guy is married and is the bread winner it would be an unsound financial decision as he could be "take to the cleaners" for his indiscretion.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 03:05 AM
0

I know and that's my point. So many legitimate issues that men face have been systematically dismissed using that EXACT phrasing that I find it hard to take it seriously anymore when anyone says it.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 02:27 AM
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I know and that's my point. So many legitimate issues that men face have been systematically dismissed using that EXACT phrasing that I find it hard to take it seriously anymore when anyone says it.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 02:26 AM
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The unicorn concept came about as a RESULT of people constantly going "not ALL women are like that, NAWALT NAWALT, NAWALT!!!" and then using that to justify playing a rigged game (you just gotta find the RIGHT one). I'm not saying that EVERY conceivable woman in existence is like that but I am also not going to justify playing based on the possibility of finding an exception. For all intensive purposes these exceptions are unicorns and the time invested in searching for them would be put to bett…
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 02:10 AM
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When you're at home and you kind of want a blow job or sex, but don't want to go hit up a bar and play your luck on finding someone attractive who says yes and also knows what she's doing, and you don't want to find a prostitute... Bam. Wives come in pretty fucking handy then. At least until she says "not tonight dear I'm tired" which puts a knife in the idea that you can get sex in a relationship "whenever you want it and however you want it". Not to mention that many women go on a power trip w…
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 01:04 AM
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the more immediate and pressing need is for good men to stand up and show other males what it means to be a man. That sounds suspiciously close to the feminists "man-up" argument that they use whenever they are trying to shame men into doing something for their benefit. 1) Man up and marry that career woman. 2) You should learn to man up and accept your wife's infidelity. 3) We need good men to stand up and show other men how not to rape (as if we are all rapists by default).
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 12:54 AM
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I thought it was implied that the statement was made in general. Of course you can find ONE exception. You can find an exception for anything. But when applying the rule its best to assume that AWALT until proven otherwise.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 12:41 AM
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So she is from a social environment that no longer exists in today's world.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 12:30 AM
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fair enough
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 12:28 AM
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This brings up another interesting question: Is the lack of consequences/repercussion making the women of today slaves to their hypergamous nature?
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 12:20 AM
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While I have heard of "wife goggles" before this is the first time I have heard of "husband blinders". Just going from what you would find on TRP you would think that a woman is just as keen on jumping ship now as she was 10, 15, 20 years ago.
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 12:12 AM
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In other words the only repercussions the woman will face will be in regards to what you personally will do should she step out of line, which of course only works if she considered you higher value to begin with is that correct?
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 12:07 AM
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fair enough
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/13 12:02 AM
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But couldn't another man with an ever-so-slightly higher value enter her world (i.e. she meets him at the gym, store, work, etc)? If so then what?
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 11:54 PM
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then it is also possible for women to overcome things they are biologically inclined to do. But why would they when there is no societal incentive/reprecussion in doing so?
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 11:51 PM
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But, quoting a natural law and assuming you have won the argument is not in good faith, and takes no account of your own socialization, your own efforts, and the defiance of your nature to not murder a man and wear his skull as a hat to warn potential challengers. So would you say that most young women of today have been socialized into not taking advantage of their hypergamous nature and the lack of societal repercussions for following said nature? If so how has this manifested itself?
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 11:48 PM
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It is completely false that no woman is capable of maintaining loyalty to one man. It's sort of makes up the cornerstone of TRP ideology (i.e. hypergamy and Briffault's law).
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 11:39 PM
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I have never cheated, it is not in my nature to cheat. That is a bold statement. It flies completely in the face of everything talked about on TRP sub (a woman's hypergamous nature, "Alpha fucks, Beta bucks", etc) and can only truly be verified after a lifetime of being together with the same person (At which point we would ask you on your deathbed "have you ever cheated on your significant other?" and you would have to answer truthfully).
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 11:34 PM
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We are not the female equivalent of TRP (we don't talk about girl game, or how to use a man's biological nature to get what we want). That's interesting I had assumed that RPW and TRP were lock step in agreement. Your goals are different and often times clash with various concepts that appear on TRP. This brings up an interesting question: What happens when your sexual mating strategy/relationship strategy/ etc clashes with the dating/mating strategy of your partner who (I assume) is red pill? W…
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 11:26 PM
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But if your mating strategy (AKA Alpha fucks Beta bucks) is working even at the expense of the men in your life why would you want to change it. Loyalty? Honor? Integrity? TRP either does not address these as potential reasons you wouldn't use this mating strategy or flat out denies that a reason could even exist.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 11:20 PM
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That's a rather incriminating question but I'll play along, never. One of the things that seems self evident from TRP theory is that the ways in which we deal with evolutionary threats adapts to the given social customs of the time. That is to say that if I were allowed to kill a rival for resources and mates I probably would. The fact of the matter is that while I am not allowed to kill someone without significant societal repercussions a woman has little if any of those exact same repercussion…
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 11:02 PM
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I'm not so egotistical to think that I am the best deal that will ever come along for her. Even if I embraced the responsibility of trying to be the best that I can be I could still be outdone by somebody who is slightly better than me. At that point then what? She walks off with the better deal anyway?
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 10:53 PM
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Abrasive? No. If anything I'm curious How does a sub that claims it's the female equivalent of TRP deal with many of the concepts that are discussed in length on TRP like hypergamy, plate theory, and Briffaults law?
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 10:49 PM
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Their term for this type of woman is known as a unicorn (as in she doesn't exist). And saying you just have to be able to pick a good woman is no different than saying NAWALT. Edit: also imagine the dynamic you just described earlier in your paragraph: "If I cheat it's my fault if she cheats it's still MY fault". Who would want to be in a relationship with somebody like that who has no shred of accountability?
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 10:41 PM
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I believe I've made another comment stating this with the appropriate links to sources but I'll put it here as well: Red Pill 101: A woman's hypergamous nature ensures that she will always be looking for a better deal and therefore holds no loyalty to any male for past events. In other words your only as loyal to him as he is a useful tool to you. If you happen to come across better you'll leave him. http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1anu3q/briffaults_law/ http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRe…
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 10:33 PM
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A woman's hypergamous nature ensures that she will always be looking for a better deal and therefore holds no loyalty to any male for past events. This is Red Pill 101. See also BRIFFAULT’S LAW: http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1anu3q/briffaults_law/ See also Hypergamy: http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/17xmry/acronym_and_glossary_thread/
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 10:03 PM
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Well, having them around raises your perceived value. To other women (i.e. they offer nothing but the possibility of attracting other women). That's a very circular need.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/13 09:48 PM
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Blow jobs and cookies. So something that he could get from any other woman on the planet (blow jobs) and something he could make himself or buy from the store (cookies) is worth his time/energy/money/commitment.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 09:42 PM
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The "random slut" has had more practice with a different variety of men. Assuming she actually tried to please him in bed she might just give you a run for your money (assuming that his tastes are not too absurdly different from any other mans). You only love him for what he can provide for you as a tool (i.e. time, energy, money, commitment, etc) and there is no guarantee that you would not ditch him if a better "tool" came along. This is a constant theme that appears on the TRP sub. So can my …
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 09:37 PM
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Can you be more specific on what this "zest" is. Too often women hide behind feel good terms and weasel words like "feminine charm" and "spiritual energy" when in reality they offer no more than sex. I want something tangible, something measurable and definable that I couldn't get for myself.
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/13 09:04 PM
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So having women to get more women.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/13 07:29 PM
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imagine having a cook, maid, and prostitute for free. I can cook for myself (probably better than 90 percent of the women out there), don't like the idea of people rummaging through my stuff, and sex is never free - you pay for it one way or another.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/13 07:12 PM
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Agree 100 percent. Just one question though You add value to a girl. She adds value back to you. What value do women have that can be added back to you?
/r/TheRedPill27/12/13 06:48 PM
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All I can say is that there are deep emotional rewards from female companionship. Ah the old "women provide some undefined quality" argument. Imagine going on a job interview and when they ask you what you bring to the table as far as skills that would benefit the company you say "I bring deep emotional rewards". You'd be laughed out of the interview room. The point is women, in general, offer NOTHING of real value aside from beauty and sex. if I wanted to talk to someone interesting, fun, or in…
/r/TheRedPill21/12/13 05:40 PM
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Point taken. Better pray she never runs into a guy that can out alpha/outperform you.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 11:08 PM
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Troll? I've been posting for over a year in TRP (vs you who has and I quote: "never even posted in this sub"). The OP brought up a legitimate question that I can understand and relate to so I wanted TRP to expand on it. If your going to disagree with me you'll have to do better than just labeling me a troll. If you have an actual logical rebuttal as to why my statement is wrong I'm all ears.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 10:55 PM
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Doing it for multiple women will also bring about the same problems if only because the right way for one woman could be dramatically different from the right way for another.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 05:45 PM
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So it's really just improving yourself in general and if you just HAPPEN to get more and more attraction from women so be it? I can get behind that.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 05:22 PM
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indeed
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 05:17 PM
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Men also have a propensity to be violent when they are pissed off. We can have tons of examples of men committing violence. The difference here is that nobody will make excuses for men who act on their violence/lust/etc they will be called on it and demonized accordingly. Women however have the entire society making excuses to protect them from their own bullshit. They'll even go as far as to blame the men that the bullshit happens to (i.e. you didn't pay her enough attention, etc). TRP does thi…
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 05:12 PM
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the effort::reward ratio is still garbage.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 04:46 PM
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The fact that it's a spectrum means that the right way for one woman may not be the right way for another (or even the same woman depending on her mood for the day). This means that you will constantly be checking, and double checking, and triple checking your actions to make sure that you are staying in the right frame, passing her shit tests in just the right way, etc and hyper-analyzing every move you make. Who wants to go through that high maintenance hell?
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 04:30 PM
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Your doing it to better yourself. That being said I don't consider putting up with a woman's bullshit or having to straighten her out (i.e. showing the appropriate level of dominance) self-help. edit: since I know it's coming learning dominance in order to stand up for yourself is fine, but in the context of using it to keep a woman in line it's rather wasted. At least in the case of the marathon training the ratio of effort to reward is relatively even. The same cannot always be said for dealin…
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 04:19 PM
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There always a post on TRP somewhere that talks about framing, spinning plates, etc.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 04:12 PM
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In which case there was no point to the entire thing. Perfection is not possible and unicorns do not exist. This means that any woman you meet will have the potential to dump you at a moments notice should a bigger better deal come along (And it will seeing as how it is impossible to be the perfect alpha/beta combo). Your only real option is to dump her and start the whole cycle over again, which is an effort in futility.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 03:52 PM
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Exactly, So why bother with half the things we see on this sub (i.e. dominance framing, spinning plates, etc) why expend energy on it at all?
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 03:44 PM
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The concept of a unicorn does not exist (like their namesake) which is why we call them unicorns in the first place. Of course your going to counter by saying "NAWALT there's probably ONE unicorn somewhere you just have to find it". If that sounds familiar it should it's the same bogus advice given to men by women who don't understand what dating is like from the male perspective. And let's get real here if a unicorn actually existed do you think they would spend any sort of time out on the mark…
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 03:32 PM
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For instance, don't like alpha fucks beta bucks? Then be a perfect alpha/beta combo. Therein lies the problem. Perfection is not possible. At some point you WILL screw up (i.e. be more beta than alpha in the beta/alpha combo), and when you do your woman will be ready to shit all over you.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 03:21 PM
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The feeling of support, of having someone who cooks and cleans and rubs your back when you come home is genuinely addicting. So you sacrifice your peace and sanity for a back rub and home cooked meal? For all the plate spinning and dominance framing and shit tests and all the other things we discuss on this sub that you have to go through to keep her in check that's what you get? Pardon me if I'm not sold on the idea. And if I wanted to talk to someone interesting, fun, or intellectually stimula…
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 03:03 PM
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Women are worth it BECAUSE they are different. Wonderful in their own sort of way. For a sub that deals with the harsh realities of the sexual market place this is a surprisingly whimsical statement. Or you could learn how to find the beauty in women and how they work. Why would you want to? This is the heart of what OP was saying. Her utility to you is that of a living sex toy, why should we give a damn about anything she thinks or feels provided that we get what we want out of her? edit: to th…
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 01:18 PM
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I think that's the point OP was making, she only loves you as a tool (like a toaster or microwave) and if the only thing she's really giving you for your time/energy/effort is beauty/sex why bother? A good hard drive of porn and you'd be otherwise set. And if you MUST have a woman to sleep with why not just hire one, after all with a woman's hypergamous nature the threat for disease is essentially the same. If it is illegal in your area to hire one why not take steps to legalize it?
/r/TheRedPill20/12/13 12:54 PM
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include <MYFEELS.h> include <DA_PATRIARCHY.h> include <FEMINISM.h> main() { string response1= "what about the menz lolol"; string response2= "SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!"; string response3= "Check your privilege!"; string input = "";//insert external input here bool all_else_fails=true;//Will always be true if(input=="How does feminism help men?"){cout<<response1;} if(input=="How can you describe feminism as being pro-equality when it only focuses on women?"){cout<<response2;} if(input=="What do you hav…
/r/MensRights14/12/13 02:01 AM
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Why marry in the first place, and I'm not even one of those here advocating against marriage. Red pill is to Blue pill as Alpha Fucks is to _______?
/r/TheRedPill13/12/13 03:34 PM
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I had the same experience with the same show. There was one scene in the series that they underlined the fact in one episode that Penny was just using the guys for various favors. When they introduced "competition" for their attention (i.e. a hotter looking blond moves into the complex and gets the same treatment) she goes all out to try and regain that lost attention and even gets into a fist fight with the other girl when she dared to call her on running the same game. They kind of sweep it un…
/r/TheRedPill04/12/13 05:37 AM
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but women used to not be allowed to vote. They also weren't required to sign up for selective services either, a requirement men are still obligated to do, especially if they want to be able to vote.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 01:24 PM
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When someone intentionally falsely accuses someone of rape they do three things: destroy the accused's reputation almost irrevocably, tarnish people's faith in the justice system, and erode the legitimacy of future rape allegations made by others (Which in IMO is the most asshole thing someone can do when they make a false rape claim). None of which matters to a woman who has a meal ticket on the line. Your ideas on how to handle false allegations are good; but do you use them every time your wi…
/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 08:20 PM
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remember that in the given scenario she has a lot riding on you taking the fall and has no intention of backtracking as it would cause her to lose everything (both you and the resource her beta boyfriend provides). recounting would be unlikely in this scenario. And I would say it goes double for the US. Think about malls, gas station, and other places where they record you; they usually give some indication that you are being recorded (either via a mounted TV or a sign blatantly telling you are …
/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 08:10 PM
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There are instances where the judge might throw out the evidence based on the way it was obtained or do so on the grounds that it is incomplete evidence , the fact that you did it secretly will be called into question and could ultimately be used as a way to dismiss the evidence altogether (after all the judge isn't on your side and the prosecutor has more interest in getting a conviction than getting to the truth).
/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 07:09 PM
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I never understood the logic of Everyone else is just competition. Competition for what? If it's being the first to have sex with the girl its more likely that neither you or your "competition" are her first and she could just as easily sleep with both of you one after the other. And if its a competition for commitment, would you really trust a girl that has demonstrated that she is willing to stab her significant other in the back to not do the same to you in a relationship?
/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 04:42 PM
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You CAN take steps to protect yourself, for example, get a pre-nup.. Which the court can throw out at their choosing. The best it can offer is a false sense of security.
/r/TheRedPill27/11/13 01:40 PM
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Really now? The feminists have had their extremists from day one and yet they still managed to take over the public discourse on gender relations and even get laws enacted in their favor. You honestly think that something like having a few "extremists" on our side is going to stop what we are doing here?
/r/MensRights27/11/13 12:39 AM
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I don't think they represent the goals of the movement at all. And yet they are enough for you to question if the ENTIRE movement is a force for good?
/r/MensRights26/11/13 06:39 PM
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1) This has already been brought up on multiple occasions. 2) The differences in groups (i.e. MRA, TRP, MGTOW, etc) are already clearly defined in ways that distinguish themselves from each other. 3) The feminists will bash us regardless. 4) TRP offers quite a few valuable insights.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 07:49 PM
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Do guys here not want a relationship at all? Or just one with a very specific kind of woman? The better question is what do guys get out of modern relationships that would encourage them to pursue one?
/r/TheRedPill22/11/13 06:33 PM
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The feminist would attack the MRM regardless of if TRP existed or not.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 12:07 AM
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So a man decides to avoid women and that makes him a misogynist?
/r/MensRights21/11/13 11:56 PM
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Like I said its not perfect, doesn't mean I'm going to throw out the tidbits of useful points and observations they have made (i.e. the information I have mentioned in my previous posts). Say what you will about TRP, they have contributed useful information (i.e. how to identify and avoid manipulative and predatory women).
/r/MensRights21/11/13 11:31 PM
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Enough women have fallen victim to attractive and manipulative men doing the same thing that I'm pretty sure gender is entirely outside the issue. Of course and nobody is arguing against that. However when it comes to discussing the "predatory lover" in general you will more than likely hear it in terms of men being predatory towards women. Rarely will you hear anything of the sort in regards to the opposite let alone how to counter or defend against a predatory woman. I feel that TRP tackles th…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 10:29 PM
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I think the general consensus appears to be "whoever asks, pays." Which generally works in the favor of most women as they won't be expected to pay (edit: or do the asking in the first place). In fact many of them will claim to be old fashion just to keep that privilege. You know that woman don't consciously, maliciously reject those put-together guys right? Of course not and I'm not blaming women either. The fact of the matter is men are generally brought up to try and do nice things for women …
/r/MensRights21/11/13 09:21 PM
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While I can see how people can view TRP as a type of woman-hating I believe they do offer a few valuable insights. For example not spending money on a woman too soon because it generally sets the wrong tone and opens you up to being used & abused financially, like the "free meals" scam a lot of women seem to employ (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2482913/Erin-Wotherspoon-aspiring-actress-dates-dinner-hit-list-fancy-restaurants.html). Also the "Alpha fucks, Beta bucks" though crudely nam…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 07:49 PM
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Interesting. Tell me, what is your perspective on the MGTOW movement?
/r/MensRights21/11/13 04:59 PM
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and encourages traditional gender roles. Could you elaborate on that. From what I've seen the vast majority of the sub is anti-marriage and in some instances anti-dating.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 04:03 PM
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What ever happened to a guy going after a girl until she agreed to give him a chance? I think the feminists call it sexual harassment.
/r/TheRedPill20/11/13 05:51 PM
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It's just as well, after you die what happens to your lineage becomes irrelevant as the vast majority of people (if any) will not remember you after you are gone regardless of if you reproduce or not. At best this study suggests that since society is rigged to weed out most men (but only after extracting sufficient resources from them) you should consider not playing into their game.
/r/TheRedPill11/11/13 05:19 AM
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How does one tell the difference between a person being genuine by expressing their real concerns, and someone with an agenda? We generally assume you have an agenda/are a troll when you completely ignore the other 2 dozen posts asking the same question and ask it again. On top of that the blog that lists these posts as concern trolls is one of the external links in the side bar, it tells us they did not read it. Or they may be a troll, in which case our response should be the same. That's where…
/r/MensRights05/11/13 09:38 PM
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There's a very big difference between a concern troll and a regular troll. The regular troll is just being disruptive with their trolling whereas the concern troll usually has an agenda that forces them to make an attempt at acting like they care enough about the cause to make their infiltration seem more plausible. For example: A regular troll would say: "You guys are nothing but misogynistic assholes who don't get laid and will die alone". There is no mock attempt at reasoning with this line a…
/r/MensRights05/11/13 03:02 PM
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You missed a line: I hope that in this way we can improve the outside perception of the MRM. How do you do that? Don't worry OP states how to do this in the comments: What I was thinking about was how to make this very interesting movement successful. Attacking a much larger and more influential group that should have the same ideals in mind does not seem like the best course of action. It doesn't matter how you repackage it, sell it, ship it, or staple a compliment to it the message remains the…
/r/MensRights05/11/13 03:53 AM
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I'll borrow from one of my old comments: Concern trolling on this sub usually comes in 1 of 5 different flavors: The "Hello, I'm a feminist and am interested in understanding you" type. The "Hello, I'm a feminist, so let me tell you what you need to change" type. The "I' think feminists and the MRA should work together" type. The "Hello, I'm a long time supporter of the MRA but here's what we need to change" type. The "We need to change X in order for people to take us seriously" type. I'll go i…
/r/MensRights05/11/13 03:07 AM
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If you have noticed, I have not identified myself as a member of the MRM. All the more reason to be suspicious of you. You don't identify with the movement yet you have a keen interest in making the movement "successful" by your standards: What I was thinking about was how to make this very interesting movement successful. In effect your saying "Hey guys, I don't identify with your movement whatsoever but I have this burning desire to tell you what you should change...." and then go on to list s…
/r/MensRights05/11/13 12:27 AM
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You have equal rights before conception, both can decide whether they want to risk a child or not. Except a woman's decision can last longer than it takes to conceive while a man's decision is set in stone the moment of, again real equal rights/responsibility there. There's a term that I think would fit aptly here. It's taxation without representation. You taxing a man with the responsibility of a child that hasn't been born yet while simultaneously taking away any representation he would have v…
/r/TheRedPill01/11/13 12:29 PM
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Yes but I like the idea of being married. And that's fine, just don't say that nobody warned you if shit hits the fan. Just because you don't doesn't mean you have to force that ideal on everyone else. Nobody's forcing you to accept anything, we're simply pointing out an event that has a high probability of occurring.
/r/TheRedPill01/11/13 12:04 PM
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At least he wouldn't be paying her child support AND alimony.
/r/TheRedPill01/11/13 11:58 AM
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We got married because we get significant tax benefits. How romantic........I think I'm going to cry *sniff
/r/TheRedPill01/11/13 02:15 AM
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Or marry a woman who doesn't want kids Until she has one accidentally on purpose. Even so you still don't need to marry her.
/r/TheRedPill01/11/13 02:14 AM
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Before the child is born, there is no child so you can not have rights over it. And yet you as the man have full responsibility before it's even drawn it's first breath. Meanwhile the mother has no obligations or responsibility and can abort it tomorrow as part of her "rights" over the non-existent child? Yeah real equal responsibility there.
/r/TheRedPill01/11/13 02:10 AM
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And where does the woman's obligation to bear the child come into play?
/r/TheRedPill01/11/13 02:05 AM
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If you live in the United States making a legal contract in regards to ANYTHING dealing with children encroaches on the rights of the state to make legal decisions regarding them. In most instances it will NOT be honored.
/r/TheRedPill01/11/13 02:01 AM
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Never got an answer. That's quite the answer by itself.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 05:42 PM
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Ever see what happens when a monkey swings to a weaker branch and it snaps........Hilarious!
/r/TheRedPill28/10/13 04:00 PM
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She's older than me Is clearly a red flag. So is the fact that she is turning 29, she's looking for a provider. Tell me, if she was REALLY marriage material why was she still single up til the point she meet you? What was she doing for all of her 20's that she didn't get a man then. Ask her to describe the guys she has dated in the past. If she describes them all in a negative light (i.e. jerks, players, bad boys, etc) you know the reason why she's single.
/r/TheRedPill25/10/13 03:14 PM
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Independent game development will render dinosaurs like Xbox obsolete. A lot of those businesses would do well to remember that it is relatively easy to make a small game and post it online for friends to enjoy (it's how a lot of them got their start). Heck there's software out there that you can use without knowing anything about programming, animation, sound, etc.
/r/MensRights25/10/13 03:33 AM
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They didn't tell you what happens to those black boys that didn't fit the stereotype of being cool and tough. At best they were routinely ignored, at worst they were attacked on a daily basis, jeered at, and mocked. Ask me how I know: I lived through it. If you didn't own the latest sneakers, speak the latest slang, rhyme the most dope rap, and get in trouble on a daily basis you weren't shit. Worse still is if you tried to better yourself, you'd catch slack from everyone about "acting white". I…
/r/MensRights23/10/13 12:00 AM
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Why do you type "feminist" in all caps? It's part of the satire (that and the word swap auto capped the text being swapped).
/r/MensRights22/10/13 09:39 PM
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Might want to re-read that line again friend: The vast majority of us, unlike a good portion of FEMINISTs (I won’t say all or the majority – that wouldn’t be fair), don't hate other people based on their gender OR class affiliations.
/r/MensRights22/10/13 09:27 PM
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I'm saying life is the best teacher and will "reach" you no matter how unreachable you are, and if you don't learn you'll have a shitty time. To bring it back to the feminists what they haven't learned metaphorically is that "If you kick a dog enough times it WILL eventually bite you". If you attack someone enough they will eventually start fighting back.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 01:10 PM
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So she gets hit on......mostly by black guys? I'm sure there's some kind of irony to this but I can't think of it. Maybe has something to do with the fact that women like her harp on how privileged their "oppressors" are and then when asked to point out who is oppressing them point to a group that has never historically been favored by the system.
/r/MensRights16/10/13 03:39 PM
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While I like the concept of TRP (and to a certain extent MGTOW) and using it to avoid a lot of the pitfalls and traps that society sets for men (i.e. divorce,alimony, child support, etc) I think it's pretty naive to think the system will remain the same as more men become aware of these concepts. I imagine that if enough men started learning the concepts we discuss here and how to avoid the traps mentioned earlier those in charge (feminists and the whiteknights/manginas supporting them) will sim…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/13 04:09 AM
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No, I wouldn't. They clearly chose bigotry and hate over reason and logic if they are with the the KKK.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 07:57 PM
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it's something useful to link to if you ever need to convince a feminist that MRM is legit. yes, like trying to convince a Klansman that the civil rights movement was legit. Asking a bigot if something they are bigoted against requires a movement is the height of foolishness.
/r/MensRights15/10/13 07:26 PM
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irrelevant, you could just as easily be a man white knighting the feminist cause. Being a man doesn't automatically mean your on our side.
/r/MensRights13/10/13 07:01 PM
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The trolls are getting smarter: First it was "I'm a feminist so let me tell you how your wrong and what you need to change". Then it was "Why don't we work together, the MRA should change a few things to be more welcoming of the feminists". Next it was "I'm not a feminist, I'm a supporter but I think we should change a few things to make to make our case clearer". After that it was "If the MRA doesn't change some undefined/vague bad thing will happen". Now it's "If the MRA doesn't change it mean…
/r/MensRights13/10/13 12:04 AM
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Stereotyping Redguards? You Nords are all the same. XD
/r/MensRights10/10/13 02:04 PM
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some of you think that if a woman can't open a pickle jar it's because some man made it with the express intention of devising a vessel that women couldn't easily open. twirls evil mustache Muwahahahahah they'll never be able to get their pickles now! /s
/r/MensRights10/10/13 12:38 PM
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It is a biological imperative that women must be protected. Now now, if we start using biological imperative to justify why women need to be protected we would be opening a can of worms in regards to the number of distasteful things we could justify simply because they fit the "biological imperative".
/r/MensRights08/10/13 01:16 AM
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We get this kind of argument so often that we generally assume the person asking the question is some kind of troll as most of the questions they ask can be found in the side bar. Seriously there was a point in time where we would get like 3 or 4 of these type of questions (usually trolls) per day.
/r/MensRights04/10/13 02:16 AM
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Concern trolling on this sub usually comes in 1 of 5 different flavors: The "Hello, I'm a feminist and am interested in understanding you" type. The "Hello, I'm a feminist, so let me tell you what you need to change" type. The "I' think feminists and the MRA should work together" type. The "Hello, I'm a long time supporter of the MRA but here's what we need to change" type. The "We need to change X in order for people to take us seriously" type. I'll go into a bit more detail but all of these co…
/r/MensRights03/10/13 08:18 PM
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Misread it, It belongs there because everything you ask matches the concern troll posts that have been brought up before.
/r/MensRights03/10/13 07:04 PM
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Another one to be added: http://breakingtheglasses.blogspot.ca/2013/01/for-record.html#.Uk2s3dWLVcB
/r/MensRights03/10/13 05:48 PM
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You can't deny that having a penis automatically gives you some type of privilege in this world. The hell we can't.
/r/MensRights03/10/13 05:40 PM
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Are you suggesting that feminism has made no positive contributions to women's situation in the world. If I as an individual did exactly ONE good thing that benefited the whole world, would it excuse me for committing a lifetime of crime? Likewise feminism may have made 1 or 2 contributions that helped a particular group as a whole does that excuse them demonizing another group for the next 50 years? The answer in both cases is no.
/r/MensRights03/10/13 05:30 PM
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Oh so they were handed the right to vote? Seeing as how they didn't have to sign up for anything like selective services in order to get that right to vote yes, yes it was just handed to them. The same cannot be said for men who had to (and still do) sign up for selective services in order to be able to vote or receive any sort of federal aid.
/r/MensRights03/10/13 04:11 PM
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there would still be plenty of gender roles out there that harm men that would not go away. Of course there would be, but we wouldn't have to worry about a specific group working to undermine our efforts. You clearly see feminism as some sort of boogeyman that you can blame for all your problems. That seems exactly like how feminism uses patriarchy as a universal blame for all their problems. Except that feminism is not some abstract ideology. Feminism is the face of everything we oppose, a REAL…
/r/MensRights03/10/13 03:43 PM
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glad we can be adults about equal rights. You don't win a war by being honorable. You win it by adopting the strategies and tactics that have worked for previous victors.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 11:40 PM
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Your not paying attention: You don't need a differential equation to describe the graph. In fact, you don't even need an exponential function to describe it. Since you were having such a hard time with the concept I simplified the type of equation I was using for my example to make my point easier for you to understand. Regardless of which type of mathematical function I use both types will intersect and surpass the given annual pay line. Is that OK with you professor? Yes a man can get child su…
/r/MensRights20/09/13 08:43 PM
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Hows this for an equation: y=2x+1 will eventually intersect and pass x=50,000; where the equation y=2x+1 represents the rising monetary risk and the equation y=50,000 equals your annual pay (not including factors such as unemployment, raises, etc). The X-axis represents the number of years and the Y-axis represents the Risk (in dollars). AND no the equation y=2x+1 is NOT specific to our scenario because you could replace it with just about ANY line with a positive slope and it will eventually in…
/r/MensRights20/09/13 04:56 PM
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Why don't you do this plot, or at least write differential equation. You don't need a differential equation to describe the graph. In fact, you don't even need an exponential function to describe it. Just picture a line horizontal to the x-axis on a graph that represents you and your partners combined annual income (not taking into account promotions, dismissal, etc), then imagine another line with a positive slope to represent the annual increase of risk (where risk equals the amount of money y…
/r/MensRights20/09/13 03:43 PM
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There are million things read about marriage's benefit of men. All of them circumstantial and none of them guaranteed. So.... Why can't you have the ceremony without a government sanctioned contract? >you can As if any women would let you get away with that, they know what's at stake if they don't tie you down with a legal contract (money & future earning potential). Even those who are cohabiting are probably doing it in a state that would consider them common law -- not ALL of them as I'm sure …
/r/MensRights20/09/13 12:10 PM
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Um, I have friends who are Klingons so clearly I'M not racist. /s
/r/MensRights20/09/13 03:31 AM
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The contract is designed to protect each party, as all contracts. Except when they don't, which quite frankly is a lot based off of the numerous articles you'll find on this sub and elsewhere on the internet describing how this man or that man is getting screwed in divorce court (paying lifetime alimony,ridiculously high child support, etc). You haven't described any benefits? That's because there aren't any benefits (for men anyway) which is exactly why it fails the cost/benefit analysis, its j…
/r/MensRights20/09/13 03:21 AM
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So are you suggesting that marriages are designed to fail? In a way they are, especially when the system gives incentives for one half of the partnership to unilaterally make it fail for profit in the form of child support and alimony. As a person you look at marriage like business or an investment. Marriage as a business or investment would fail it's cost/benefit analysis, considering the fact that the thing you are most likely to lose is money regardless of how the marriage turns out (business…
/r/MensRights20/09/13 02:06 AM
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The perils shouldn't deter them from marriage. If someone came to you and said that they had just come from their car mechanic and that the mechanic had stated that the car had a 50 percent chance of exploding every time you started the ignition and then the mechanic elaborated that this was common for at least half the vehicles on the road today would you honestly tell them (in good faith) that this fact should not deter them from using the vehicle -- or any other vehicle for that matter? The f…
/r/MensRights19/09/13 07:46 PM
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I'm making a comparison on how both warfare and marriage can be considered traditional. Both have occurred for generations if not since the dawn of man. The fact is if you try to use tradition to justify doing something you can use tradition to justify doing just about anything that has occurred in the past. I'm not denying that we are social creatures, just that we require the institution of marriage. pair-bonding is a part of nature, contractually obligated pairing with legal/social/ and monet…
/r/MensRights19/09/13 06:46 PM
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You can't Google "why do relationships fail" But you can Google the numerous statistical reports in regards to the number of reasons given as to why they do (i.e. money, growing apart, etc). That's a completely loaded question. You're trying goad me into a trap. How is it loaded and in what way am I trapping you? Google doesn't have all the information in the world. Maybe not, it's still a very good resource for data. That's is not the only definition marriage. The history is very long, and it's…
/r/MensRights19/09/13 05:07 PM
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A marriage is a calculated risk? No, it's a Life-Changing gamble. It's hard to call something calculated when one of the variables in your "calculation" is another human being (i.e. your partner). Unless you are that person there is no way for you to know how they would react in any given circumstance (past, present, or future). RELATIONAL SECURITY you stated in one of your earlier posts that marriage is a monetary gamble. The fact is if your secure your not at risk, and if your at risk your not…
/r/MensRights19/09/13 03:50 PM
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You can accomplish a lot in life without the need to take LIFE-CHANGING gambles. Let me be clear taking CALCULATED everyday risks is healthy. Taking LIFE-CHANGING gambles is not. Which brings me back to an earlier point: It's good to know that there is a monetary gamble in marriage. Is the EXACT reason why there isn't any security in the institution of marriage. a gamble/risk by it's very nature compromises security. It's a security RISK. Also just because a question is loaded doesn't mean it is…
/r/MensRights19/09/13 02:31 PM
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That's untrue and fabricated. Is it now? I suppose your going to tell me that true love conquers all or some other Hollywood/Hallmark bullshit that has no bearing on the real world. Go ahead and lose your job/don't pay your monthly bills/mortgage/rent/whatever. When your out in the streets on your ass be sure to tell your woman "don't worry honey, we'll get through this with the power of love". How long do you think it will take for her to "fall in love" with a man who isn't homeless and makes m…
/r/MensRights19/09/13 01:23 PM
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The money is secondary. In what universe? Certainly not this one. I'm willing to bet that if you sat a woman down and said "Honey, I don't have any money or the future earning potential of making a decent amount but would you marry me?" she'd be out the door before you could blink. In short MONEY TRUMPS EVERYTHING!!! Also telling someone I want to be with them is about as secure as me telling a burglar he doesn't want to steal things from my home, I'm just as "secure" now as I was before telling…
/r/MensRights19/09/13 03:27 AM
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security maybe for her, lets her know you'll stick around long enough for them to fleece you in divorce court.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 12:03 AM
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I'm agreeing with you I was just being sarcastic. You asked how marriage could make the relationship any better or worse. My answer is the same way any contract can make your life better or worse (normally worse). I probably should have used a /s.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 11:57 PM
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Marriage is a bit of paper how can it possibly make the relationship better or worse? The same way any other contract can make your life better or worse, especially if broken.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 07:56 PM
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There's is a level of security in a marriage. A damn lie if I ever heard one, security can only be had if one has guarantees in place. Marriage currently has NO guaranty for men on anything.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 07:54 PM
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I've heard something similar: There are no feminists on a sinking ship.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/13 09:04 PM
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Am I being a mangina? Don't worry, there's a cure for that. I recommend extra strength RedPill 24 hour relief.
/r/TheRedPill16/09/13 09:01 PM
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I believe the TRP terminology for this is "Alpha fucks, beta bucks".
/r/MensRights15/09/13 03:19 PM
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As far as I've been able to guess, the "hamster" is supposed to represent women trying to rationalize their double-standard behavior, right? Your quite right on this one. "hamstering" refers the person attempting to justify their logic on a given situation or thought process that either invokes a double standard or contradicts something they have said in the past. Example 1: A woman says "I just want to meet nice guys" and then proceeds to date drug dealers, criminals, and social misfits. Exampl…
/r/MensRights14/09/13 11:12 AM
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I think it's staged.
/r/TheRedPill12/09/13 07:33 PM
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I just couldn't tell you if I wanted to.....might have something to do with how they're full of shit though. /s
/r/MensRights11/09/13 04:55 AM
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Also we are all apparently loaded, young, and well educated. Alas, I only have one of those. Your loaded? That's awesome!!!
/r/MensRights11/09/13 04:50 AM
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Is this guy on crack? At most it is 5% of all US/CAN/UK Uni's. Let em dream xD
/r/MensRights11/09/13 04:47 AM
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Enough talk. HAVE AT THEM. Well they are a miserable pile of secrets...... and LIES!!!
/r/TheRedPill10/09/13 02:34 AM
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If you are happy about having a MRM, Thank A Feminist! /? In a way it's kind of true, if it weren't for all their bullshit it wouldn't be as easy pointing out a lot of the things we discuss here.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 01:24 PM
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They cook, clean, give you back rubs, etc etc Hire a maid.
/r/TheRedPill09/09/13 04:18 AM
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The prostitutes are more honest about how much they'll charge you.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/13 01:25 AM
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I live with a radical feminist. ......Well don't leave us in suspense.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 04:47 PM
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I don't see how taking over as a father is irrational? So then tell us why you think it's a rational choice. Is it because your system of values/honor tells you that it's what REAL MEN(tm) do. If so what gives you the right to force your value system on us or any other man. From a purely logical standpoint it makes no sense to take on the additional expense of child-rearing when the children in question are not yours so I'm rather interested curious on how it benefits you to do so.
/r/TheRedPill05/09/13 02:43 PM
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depends on how he died: If he died in a war, from a major (non-sexual) disease, pure accident then yes its an exception. If he died as a result of something gang related, doing some sort of illegal activity, died from over exposure to an STD, etc then no shes still a bad judge of character.
/r/TheRedPill05/09/13 02:30 PM
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Feminism isn't responsible for female bias in family courts, the traditional role of women as caregivers is. But they'll jump back to those roles whenever its convenient for them, why, because it benefits them. No matter what they say about wanting equality it will only be when it's convenient for them. It's why they'll never push for women to be included in the draft or why you'll never hear of a woman on a sinking ship talking about how sexist it is that women and children are allowed to escap…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 10:44 PM
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The MRM has a horrible track record as well. How many laws were influenced and passed by MRA's, How many TV series do you see bashing women, what rights do you see men have that women can only get by sacrificing something very valuable? If the MRM has a track record it is negligent in comparison to the feminists who demanded the right to vote without the corresponding responsibility of signing up for selective services, passing laws such as VAWA, poisoning the media with their anti-male rhetoric…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 10:15 PM
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Because feminism has a horrible 40 year track record when it comes to fighting towards equality (And since I KNOW your going to ask for specifics I'm telling you ahead of time to check the side bar, specifically this link: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/g2eme/feminists_tell_you_that_the_solution_to_mens/). If it weren't for feminist blunders there wouldn't be a Men's Rights movement. The way I see it the "reprehensible" Paul Elam wouldn't have a pulpit to stand on if the feminist ha…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 09:52 PM
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Okay, if I have to take responsibility for these women's views.... How about CONFRONTING them on their views, just taking responsibility is the easy way out. And before you say it yes I am an avid critic of Paul Elam and there are a lot of things I don't agree with him on and I DO let him know it when I post to his site. .....What were you expecting me to say something like "Nobody is expecting you to take responsibility, etc......". You'd be right nobody EXPECTS you to, that doesn't stop you fr…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 09:23 PM
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I'm not demanding anyone to conform to anything I have stated. I do not have the power to force anyone to my way of thinking anymore than you can force me to believe there are good feminists.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 08:45 PM
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Definitions aren't based off the subjective observations of the minority, they're based off the opinions of the majority. Does the "official" definition of feminism render any observation made by an outsider null and void? I should think not. A textbook definition is one thing, what occurs in reality is another. The fact is if you are part of the ruling class/majority/whoever is in charge then you can change that textbook definition to whatever you want regardless of peoples outside observation …
/r/MensRights31/08/13 08:31 PM
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it doesn't sound like they want chivalry to continue. I beg to differ: http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/yes-dudes-should-definitely-have-to-pay-for-dinner/story-fneszs56-1226699395468 http://www.crunkfeministcollective.com/2012/07/02/asking-for-sex-what-do-you-do-when-the-guy-says-no/ Mind you all of these post writers consider themselves feminists. What bullshit will you use to justify/excuse them? Is it going to be "They're not REALLY feminists" or "Well women have had to deal with x,y,z there…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 08:10 PM
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Your opinion that a feminist is someone who believes in patriarchy theory is the minority. Oh is that why they constantly make references to it in the vast majority of their writings and dialogue? The type of person who would say that someone is giving an opinion when they make a general observation (i.e. the sky is blue) just because they can find one exception to the majority rule (i.e. someone who is colorblind) is intellectually dishonest and not to be trusted. BOTTOM LINE: It is a general o…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 07:48 PM
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Often times they are, you only have to look as far as the family court system and see how often they rule in favor of women to see that. The justification that the feminists often give for the ruling will be along the lines of "Well men have gotten a good deal in the past......because......patriarchy". When our issues are swept under the rug due to a component of your ideology (i.e. patriarchy) we have no choice but to fight both the ideology and the people who support it. It's the only way we'l…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 06:23 PM
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There's nothing to stop anyone from identifying as a feminist while not believing in patriarchy. Right, next you'll be telling us that a Christian can be a Christian without believing in Jesus.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 06:12 PM
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Why should they? Does the MRM deal with issues women face? That's exactly the point the OP was making. We get a lot feminists coming on here saying they are for men's rights to which we say bullshit. If your a feminist your priority will never include men's issues no matter how much you argue otherwise. If anything your "contributions" to the MRM are going to undermine what we do here because you will always make women's issues more of a priority than men's.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 05:59 PM
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What's the difference between a "good" feminist and a "bad" feminist? The same difference between a "good" Nazi and a "bad" Nazi.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 07:06 PM
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Also plenty of MGTOW and PUA forums that don't allow women, and members often ridicule MRA sites that do, saying it will compromise the message. I kind of like that fact. It means you say what you wish without filtering for "women's sensibilities" or having to add some advisory for the person who will inevitably state NAWALT.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 02:35 AM
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Better question, why do you think you need to marry her? What do you gain from getting married?
/r/TheRedPill26/08/13 07:14 PM
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I always thought feminist mags were clammy but this is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 05:09 PM
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Demanding something you never had and then shirking whatever responsibilities come with having it hardly qualifies as being "perfectly reasonable". For Example: Feminist demand the right for women to vote but completely shirk the responsibility of signing up for selective services that every young man past the age of 18 must sign up for in order to have the exact same right (or access to any other federally funded service). They'll go on and on about being independent, empowered, and equally as …
/r/TheRedPill20/08/13 04:32 PM
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Women? I was talking about feminists. Unless a given woman is a feminist I'm not talking about her. You are right that you cannot classify women under one giant monolithic group. You CAN however classify feminists as such. When push comes to shove they all toe the party line REGARDLESS of what 'type' of feminist they are. If they didn't they wouldn't be feminists.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/13 01:25 AM
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Most of the thoughts about autonomy. An irony, seeing how often they attempt to restrict the autonomy of men. While they are all for women's autonomy they are not above trampling or restricting men's right to free agency when it comes to things such as family court matters and relationships.
/r/TheRedPill19/08/13 04:06 PM
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Lots of feminist ideas are rational and cannot be refuted Like what?
/r/TheRedPill19/08/13 12:05 AM
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And the child support..... What's that? The kid isn't yours? TO BAD CHUMP!!! /s
/r/MensRights18/08/13 04:24 PM
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I've begrudgingly entered into a relationship. Why did you enter a relationship you clearly didn't want?
/r/MensRights18/08/13 12:36 AM
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Solution: Don't do anything for a woman unless your getting some form of established payment.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 12:32 AM
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Now there's an element of manipulation there on my part, and his part because there's a blatant hope he's going to get back in my knickers. That's how relationships work though. Relationships work on manipulation? And all this time I thought they were built on trust like a sucker. Good to know.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 12:30 AM
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If you give them a single inch to justify their existence they'll take it and run with it. It's the exact same mistake that AVFM and r/MensRights made and a VERY slippery slope. To answer your question: NO, feminism is a disease and has NO place in a functioning society let alone Redpill theory.
/r/TheRedPill18/08/13 12:12 AM
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why even bother? At existing? for your own happiness of course. Just because you don't spend everyday of your natural life trying to better society or get ahead in the rate-race doesn't mean that your life has no meaning. This is the dirty little secret that society doesn't want you as a man figuring out. This is why out of all of the subgroups in the manosphere (PUA's, MRA's, etc) they attack the group of men who are withdrawing completely with the most zeal. If men start Going Their Own Way an…
/r/TheRedPill17/08/13 06:40 PM
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