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You act like we didn’t used to though. Even Frank Sinatra got arrested for adultery back in the day. So nobody was holier than the law because of money, either. He was released and not charged but still, shows they would arrest folks for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:18 AM
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Personally as a non religious person who believes in smaller government I don’t. I think it’s kind of pedantic and silly that two grown adults need the government to tell them their personal relationship is official or valid. I’m an adult I can make that determination myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:34 PM
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Won’t work. Why? Because the act itself of having a child is not a bucket list item. Ok well I had my baby, time to outsource every service for them lol. No I think shockingly people want more leisure time to spend with their kids personally. My belief, offering working age people more free time and having a more productive economy are anatagonist and will always be at odds. You unironically must sacrifice short term growth for long term stability. Reduce working hours and expectations, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:37 PM
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Yea it’s called gender ratios favor young men in NYC by a wide number. Went to a college that was majority female and if you were above average getting laid was a legitimately a joke easy. I argue that the number of men vs women in a dating pool is more important than feminism / cultural conditioning. I had 0 issue in mid 2010s when anti male social movements were rampant, etc. Now I live in a more suburban area and it’s a nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:58 PM
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So you’re saying beta bux and placeholder girlfriends are both basically used to fill an emotional void? If so I say yes I agree. I think it comes down to people being labeled this and that if they are too blunt about their preferences but this is changing? Oh you only date certain races? Well you must be racist. You only want to date a man with money? You’re a gold digger, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:57 AM
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The real truth is it doesn’t matter if most men have types or not, they have to work with taking what they even get.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:39 AM
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The other side to this is nature naturally births extra males. War was ultimately a mechanism to account for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:50 PM
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Yea any time a normal socially calibrated person would struggle or be uncertain, an autistic person would be straight lost lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:54 AM
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As someone who is an ONLY GRANDCHILD, I would welcome the nosiness that comes with that extra support.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 10:10 AM
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I hate to tell you but your second scenario is a negative feedback loop. If goods and services become more expensive and less available, it might change the perception of having kids but it’s not going to actually make it physically easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:22 AM
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This advice is a mixed bag but I agree. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve went for a number conversion to hear “I want to get to know you better first.” Aka I want to be your pen pal for two days and then jump ship no contact when I get bored.
/r/seduction28/02/24 08:54 AM
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You realize if you run the math with uneven gender ratios, even if every available guy and girl pair up 1:1 there would still be “incels” left over. So should those guys be deemed an auto threat basically, mathematically, there’s not a woman for them to date? That’s absurd, that’s assuming their guilty without proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:36 PM
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Yea the surplus of old women is another brutal fact. It just proves men are more likely to die in their youth and yet are still less likely to make it to old age as woman. Fkin brutal lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:06 PM
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This is a sadly really common misconception. Birth rates naturally birth extra males because males faced a more brutal existence in youth. More likely to die from disease, war, or being risky. PLUS nobody talks about all these countries that culturally murder their infant daughters further fucking up the problem! If you take anything significant from my comment let it be this. Gender probability at birth is not 50/50, more like 51/49 or 52/48 in preference of males. You could see how for 10 peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:13 PM
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Couldn’t they just make the corn into bio-diesel instead? Yea it takes more product but seems like a much more productive use of the crop.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:02 PM
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As one of the original comments of the demography or as I call it “the (gender) ratio pill”, I’m glad more people are understanding WHY we have more young men in hardened situations… it’s quite simply lopsided mathematics at play. I mean that’s the honest answer buts it not marketable, that answer implies not much can be done by yourself, it’s simply a numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:45 PM
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People won’t talk about how an outsider single man vs single female is perceived when trying to socialize and break into social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:09 PM
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He has an obsessive personality. He likely mega leveraged his money on Bitcoin early on. Somebody on that thread said he has around 140,000 BITCOINS (which is back up to around 44k each rn. If I did the math right I believe that’s around 600 million…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 06:32 AM
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I’m suddenly feeling like a very patriotic guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:46 PM
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Really if you think about it, it’s not that much of a stretch. The internet already created this gender related discussion since the early 2000s, catapulting in relevance mid 2010s. The divisive content was already out there, all they had to do was increase visibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:43 PM
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OP is projecting the nature of men in most circumstances to love and war, the two exceptions. In most areas of society men would say something needs to be done if society is blatantly unbalanced. Except when it benefits them personally not to. (alas love and war) Alls fair in love and war does not refer to what “conduct” is allowed in fighting or courtship. It’s a play on words that individuals will do whatever they want still regarding those subject, regardless of outside influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:04 PM
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I mean we should all refrain from stealing, lying, or hurting others for selfish reasons. Unfortunately humans are fallible and all it takes is one bad actor to ruin a situation. And the other reason why this won’t happen is because there’s no solidarity in male sexuality. It’s always been a competition of under-bidding / out-competing one another. Individual people can refrain from whatever they want, it’s holistically irrelevant if somebody else is willing to do it or undercut.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:11 PM
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The dudes saying it’s attractive are desperate and or weirdos.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 12:38 PM
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It’s a trick question. The “pill” ideologies were never about specific outcomes. It was always about making decisions for the outcome the individual wants the most.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 03:29 AM
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Yea it’s possible in theory but not probable due to all the small obstacles. Plus making friendships is not a solo or one sided activity. So even if you shift your mindset to make adult friends / connections, is contingent on if the other party is open to making new connections as an adult (most aren’t).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:07 PM
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Of course there will be outliers that cannot handle the information well but generally and holistically, most will benefit in terms of money and time savings over the course of their lifetime.
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 08:18 PM
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This is unfortunately real. Nature has always birthed more males. It was just a given they’d die to disease, war, trying to do some stupid shit, etc. All these factors would equal put gender ratios at the age of pairing up. (think mid teens to early twenties) Similar to the new phenomenon where wars are more costly because more soldiers are injured than killed, technology has made excess male births obsolete. Most of the factors that used to kill those extra young men don’t exist. Life isn’t har…
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 03:22 PM
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Yea as a young guy in my 20s it irks me that I was always prioritized academics over socializing to such a degree. Not that that itself is bad, but nobody bothered to explain to me that making adult friendships is borderline impossible and not socializing while younger would be make or break for me as an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:35 PM
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Half of couples are initially meeting on apps but tinder isn’t real life?
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 01:28 PM
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Chad this, chad that. Look. Contrary to popular belief birth rates are not 50/50. More males are born every year than females. Nobody knows why for certain but theory is that males are was likely to live to adulthood and nature compensates as such. Past factors like higher likelihood to die of childhood diseases for boys, war, doing dumbass risky shit, physical labor stresses mean men die in adolescence more than women. Well problem is we have made almost all those factors obsolete but nature st…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 01:13 PM
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I’m 6 ft 2 and the only women it helps get are the really attractive but short women (5 ft 3 and below)
/r/AllPillDebate31/08/23 03:04 PM
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No pussy, no family, no work (ie extraneous labor like lifting heavy shit)
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 07:13 PM
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As to why most persons date within their own ethnicity has to do with lifestyle and culture more than race. Ie, when you date someone of the same racial background you USUALLY know there won’t be cultural barriers between one another or your families.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 05:36 PM
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As somebody who got their bad eyesight from their mothers family, I laugh every time these disingenuous f*cks that act like only men can have bad genes. Some of us get reminded DAILY how false that is.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 05:33 PM
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The catch is admitting most men aren’t attractive 1. Paints women in a bad shallow light 2. Eliminates any ambiguity that can be taken advantage of for women
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 02:35 PM
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This is the short and pragmatic answer why dating apps don’t work and currently aren’t designed to work. They are mostly operated under one “monopoly” masqueraded as a “conglomerate” called Match group. (Technically conglomerates aren’t monopolies but I see very little technical difference)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:17 PM
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If you can’t take an analogy in good faith by being disingenuous, you don’t deserve to debate.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 11:28 AM
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I mean go look at any demographic population pyramid. There’s going to be a small higher % of males than females
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 12:45 AM
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No it’s actually the opposite. More males are born than females every year.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 01:11 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3IaYhG11ckA&pp=ygUVTWludXRlZWFydGggbW9yZSBib3lz I’d make a long winded and based comment but this short video explains it well enough. Birth ratios are not 50/50 male/female as commonly assumed and it has a ton of downstream implications. You will hear people say “but there’s roughly an equal number of men and women on the planet”. This is a very disingenuous but true argument that leaves out that men die earlier than women en masse. So while there’s an excess of yo…
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 05:29 AM
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Almost 26, I meet height and looks requirement. I can fake a British accent if she wants to let me be a trophy husband 😂
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 09:12 PM
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Based and blackpilled. You’re obviously right and anyone who is honest and have observant would agree with you. The problem is pretty women ain’t waking up to do the most difficult task in the economy every day. Society has a vested interest in men seeing their self worth and value in laboring for society. If men as a whole drop that belief society would just start to slowly crumble.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 09:47 AM
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The banshees at PPD will cry foul and deny that polygamy destabilizes societies. You can also look to the Middle East which is a literal theocracy with codified polygamy, and many of those countries have rampant terrorism, including car bombings.
/r/AllPillDebate15/07/23 04:57 AM
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You have to be a millennial at least to have this mindset. Zoomer women are not receptive in any environment. If they don’t have the hots for you they’ll just return their attention to their phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:11 PM
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Truthfully, some of these avenues are more receptive in the context of cold approach. The main gist of this comment being that there are no avenues where men are welcomed and encouraged for approaching women. And yes some of us have to approach women because we don’t have big extended families, and apps never worked for us. So literally what’s the alternatives to no social circle and terrible luck on apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:21 PM
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Same number of women on APD / PPD who go on and on about women being vulnerable and investing more in their kids than men, while having no fucking kids themselves.
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 08:31 AM
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Short term maybe if she’s alright (I’m a guy in mid 20s) but long term would be futile, since I plan on having kids and don’t want to be rushed for such a decision by a woman’s bio clock.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 10:52 PM
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No they’re either both creepy or not. Just because you subjectively liked it or not does not determine if the other person is being objectively creepy. That’s now how logic works.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 05:19 PM
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Right 😂 size has no bearing on masculinity. 😂 Sorry I almost died of laughter from this post. Yea, they just compare weight, height, and reach for fighters just for the fuck of it!
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 01:21 PM
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So a cougar woman who’s older is also a creep even if the younger male is more receptive yes? Believing otherwise would be hypocritical and disingenuous.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 01:19 PM
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Higher perceived SMV in Asia Age gaps relationships are much more acceptable and common in Asia and Eastern countries. A lot of Asian countries are MUCH safer (in general) than many Latin American countries. This is amplified and something to think about if you’re a foreign man just showing up to a new country for their women. You could get the attention of the wrong local men.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 12:56 PM
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His first error was committing to the type of women who is always seeking male validation. If he didn’t attach commitment to her in the first place, this whole ordeal wouldn’t have been able to be happen much less blown out of proportion.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 12:50 PM
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Bruh 😂 why would a mgtow even bother to type TwoX or FDS in their Reddit search bar. Those are junkyards of subreddits.
/r/AllPillDebate13/07/23 12:26 PM
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Telling an autist “just be normal brah” is like telling the 5 ft 5 guy he just needs to grow a few inches. It’s disingenuous, people with autism literally have an inactive / more dormant social sphere of the brain. It’s not just a minor detail to be looked over.
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 01:27 PM
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Blaming people for things out of their personal control is kind of a red flag to me. You do you, OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:25 AM
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Probably has to do with how western countries prioritize women’s desires, and as a result many western men probably feel they have to dull their desires to have relationship success. Sure dude is short but has political status and has to settle for a Sid the Sloth lookalike, fucking brutal.
/r/AllPillDebate20/05/23 05:30 PM
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Just piggybacking that these comments calling her beautiful are cope. Also because all the previous commenters talking about how beautiful she is are stuck in a western paradigm and don’t even realize it. They’re calling her beautiful from a western perspective when she wouldn’t get a second glance from men in Asia. I just think it’s kinda funny and worth taking note of the cultural cope.
/r/AllPillDebate20/05/23 04:01 PM
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Maybe in western countries lol. Amongst Asian countries this woman would be considered average at best.
/r/AllPillDebate20/05/23 03:05 PM
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Women and chad aren’t going to hold up all the comforting infrastructure we all rely on. Arguably “chads” COULD, but they’d be getting women without that extra hard work so it’s not like there is an incentive for them to do so.
/r/AllPillDebate20/05/23 03:04 PM
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Actually goes back to western countries having declining populations. As a result people cope and try to infantilize older and older cohorts of young adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:45 PM
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When the game is too easy that you get bored and decide to stop playing. Meanwhile, never mentioning that there are some who are not permitted to play, at all.
/r/AllPillDebate15/05/23 02:11 PM
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You can deny reality but the blackpill reaper always comes to collect, eventually.
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 02:40 PM
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My interpretation was that you were saying women want to distance themselves from average men entirely. While I mostly agree, they still want them around only to be physical labor grunts is my message.
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 04:36 PM
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Nah nah the problem is they want to pick and choose how they deal with the average man. If an average man suddenly has mental autonomy and “chooses” to opt out only then is it a problem since others can’t benefit from him anymore. They want the average man to be a sexless worker ant and and be quiet about it.
/r/AllPillDebate09/05/23 04:29 PM
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Women will try really hard to smooth their skin in the face to blur their age. Meanwhile the tight skin on their neck that’s been touched by makeup tells me her age almost instantly.
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 04:23 PM
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As a Gen Z guys, women will LAUGH and make a mockery of guys they reject especially for sex. When it comes to the guy they want, they feel entitled to him sexually! As a guy being rejected it’s crickets. When I reject the overweight girl for a hookup and she’s starts crying I get perceived as the asshole.
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 10:28 AM
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Yes while very true, those are artificial reasons for an excess of male births. My point being that nature has always birthed extra males for good reasons, we just made those reasons outdated /obsolete and thus we get left over with more men than women in almost every age group. If anything your point just proves it’s actually worse than that! Because on top of already having excess male births you have people artificially inflating it also!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 08:17 PM
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There have always been more males at birth than females, numerically. In the past they’d have died to childhood diseases, war, conquests, personal duels, accidents, etc. We have eliminated the mortality aspect of many of those things so naturally you get an excess of men in almost all age cohorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 10:29 PM
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Funny enough this statement could be seen as a statement for the origin and existence of the blackpill.
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 08:49 PM
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No it just goes back to birth rates in the modern age. In the past, many young men died before making it to adult age because life was grueling. Nature accounted for this by birthing slightly more males every year (OPS post). Problem is now those factors are kind of gone and thus you get a male surplus in almost all countries. So any country is going to welcome a surge of young women and it’s always going to be at the expense of some other group of men.
/r/AllPillDebate23/04/23 03:40 AM
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This thought experiment would have to be broadly / globally active for the analogy to make sense. But yea you’re correct, when a country has open borders it’s not surges of families or young attractive women. Lol, you get hordes and hordes of young men with little going on in their home country.
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 05:23 PM
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Caucasian refers to whites but the word itself refers to the Caucus mountains of high elevation. Which is the theory why they were lighter skinned than others in the same geographical area. Hope that explanation helps.
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 04:24 PM
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Yea the gender ratio pill is real. There’s been studies on college campuses with different gender ratios as a % to the whole student population. Surprise surprise, with more women than men you get a casual sex culture. With more men than women you get the opposite.
/r/AllPillDebate17/04/23 03:35 AM
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They don’t need men as INDIVIDUALS. They need the collectivity of men to keep the infrastructure going. Well the reality is that COLLECTIVE of men is compromised entirely of individuals with their own wants and needs. As men nope the fuck out and everything they need on a daily slowly corrodes, there won’t be a renewed respect. Society will just complain “men aren’t doing their part”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 11:26 AM
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Women essentially have unilateral control over sex and relationships bud
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:47 AM
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Race pill is just a part of lookism theory. Looks like you misunderstand what all the other pills mean. “Pill” is a pejorative, general term. The only pill having to do with race is the race pill. White and black pill refers to mindsets / philosophies not race theory.
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 10:15 AM
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I can think of many explanations, but one that’s never mentioned is immigration. It primarily affects the younger demographics, and let’s be honest, when you see footage of people coming over the US border what are THOSE demographics like? Few families and tons of young single males. Hmmm wonder what a bunch of extra young immigrant males would do to a dating scene…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 12:30 PM
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It’s hilarious that women are seen as the more “social” or “socially intelligent” gender. In some aspects / respects such may be true, but from my observations it’s that women can get away with more frequent social faux pas, and face less scrutiny any time they do something less socially acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:49 PM
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It’s more cyclical than you describe. Industrial countries get a small “economic” boost by putting women in the workforce. In the long term, this drives down population and creates rampant inflation (less young people = higher labor cost aka look at the USA rn) So while it seems like it benefits the country and economy to have women working full time. The holistic, long term ramifications are a net negative, economically.
/r/AllPillDebate25/01/23 08:15 PM
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How much does a modern woman rely on a man individually? Very little if at all. How much does the modern woman rely on systems and the fruits of cooperation and hard labor of groups / teams of men? Between cars, man-made buildings, and utilities like electricity and running water, probably 10-20 times a day. If we are going to have this discussion the nuance has to be included.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 11:52 AM
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There are more male births than female births year over year. There are theories as to why this is the case. The most plausible being that the higher number of male births was offset by infant mortality (higher for males), war, risky behavior, workplace deaths, etc. As a result by young adult age the gender ratios are balanced (in theory). Well your society has for the most made all these male cullings obsolete. So thus you get extra males in the population. Tinder is simply a micro scale level …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 04:41 AM
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Hur dur Epigenetics is Ray-cyst! On an honest note, I hate how this sensitivity culture can prevent objective conversations about differences amongst ethnic / racial groups.
/r/AllPillDebate22/01/23 07:40 PM
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H-Y-P-E-R-G-A-M-Y at its finest
/r/AllPillDebate21/01/23 09:24 PM
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Or maybe things change between generations? Perhaps with internet culture the younger men may start caring about body count? Hmmm? Oh what do I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 05:14 PM
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Polygamy doesn’t just mean less investment from many of the regular men of your society. It bifurcated access to women making men more physically competitive and or violent in desperation to get women.
/r/AllPillDebate19/01/23 06:06 AM
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Because American culture has a perverse view and cultural relationship with sex. So based on that context, that is why Americans believe legalizing prostitution has your effects of 1-4.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:16 PM
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Your industrial society runs off of large scale operations to keep the cost of goods low. If men, in aggregate, don’t work those scaled hours then cost of living will increase for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 04:11 PM
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The kicker is men aren’t materialistic. They weren’t working 50-60 hour weeks (that keep shit going) to buy a new gaming PC for the bachelor pad. They were doing it to feed a spouse and 2-3 kids. Nobody wants to discuss the material versus abstract motivations to work or toil.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 01:42 PM
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The concept of “the wall” was never about blackout fertility (I.e. a woman suddenly going from multiple suitors to NONE) this is not true. The wall is simply aging awareness that as a woman ages her number and quality of suitors will begin to wain and decrease unless she is very fortunate.
/r/AllPillDebate14/01/23 01:36 PM
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So based on this study… better frame beats better face for men?
/r/BlackPillScience04/12/22 02:44 AM
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Men sent their own way.
/r/AllPillDebate01/12/22 01:36 AM
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Just be persistent with pursuing a woman and she will come around eventually. Metoo waiting to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:34 PM
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Because top tier implies some sort of cutoff that will end up leaving some guys out. This is why it’s not realistic advice to just tell every guy to get to 10% bf and making 100k+ every year. Like there’s a small small minority of guys who even can fit that category, and you haven’t even factored other details like genetics and persona.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:51 PM
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Realistically, you’d have to individually try and change a small amount of guys opinions on dating down, and then spread that sentiment like a social movement lol. Anything less will be futile, but that’s a lot of upfront investment to ask of one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 11:15 AM
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So somehow men are supposed to combat hypergamy but not talk about it. This ain’t fight club brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:01 AM
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And we’ve discovered the prisoners dilemma. We can go home now folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 11:11 PM
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I’ve mentioned before in this sub how the car dependent system of America has social implications down the road. Who knew people transporting themselves in isolated metal boxes would have consequences for socializing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:55 PM
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This post respectfully is kind of ridiculous. Point 1, I don’t see you also calling out cougars, which is the female equivalent to men dating younger. So if men going for women is problematic then cougars are also problematic by your own logic. Point 2 is assuming all women have more childhood baggage than baggage as an adult, which I find just unrealistic. More people have baggage as an adult because they have more responsibilities due to age.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:28 PM
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Definitely women in Korea have more surgery but the “double eyelid surgery” is popular for changing the eye area to look more “western” and it’s creating this elitism issue in white collar jobs.
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/22 02:31 PM
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I mean Korea as a society is probably the most culturally blackpilled. People are seriously using plastic surgery and aesthetics as some sort of career advancement leverage. Real bizarre stuff.
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/22 02:21 PM
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The societies that prioritize getting married and having larger families… will eventually replace those who don’t over the course of many generations. And paradigm will shift when those who prioritize family over all are the majority again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:36 AM
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She’s not implying it on a macro scale (I.e. government decree) but saying it should happen on a micro scale (no individual woman should pick those men). Same results.. like I said womens genes perpetuate more generations (like op says) because of X vs Y chromosomes. So if anything, genetically “weak” women should be removed from the gene pool more harshly than genetically “weak” men. Oof society ain’t ready for that convo.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 03:46 PM
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Your argument is not as solid as you think. Literally based on your idea of “culling” men with bad genes, women with bad genes should also not reproduce. Especially since women are more likely to have their genes perpetuated for generations than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 11:51 AM
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So all the modern tech comforts (that could only have been developed in a safe and stable society) never benefitted women? If I remember correctly, women were massively politically advantaged to push feminism because of all the leisure time given to them by technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 11:49 AM
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Short answer. Gen Z is the coming of age demographic. They are also exposed to blackpills on social media daily.
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/22 11:38 PM
1

Wear a fake engagement band or promise ring.
/r/seduction04/09/22 01:38 AM
3

True. US baby boomers basically got the best economic conditions EVER in human history and sold out future generations to maximize their short term gain. Mismanagement of resources for multiple generations (that will have to be correct by an innocent generation) will have consequences. Unfounded govt liabilities, low birth rates, environmental destruction.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 04:30 PM
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Yes, I love this post. Demographics never get discussed in pill spheres. Based on studying demographics trends I believe can actually explain many political and social movements. For example, the reason gender expectations of women going into the workforce was NOT due to WW2. Sure women worked during WW2, but returned home when the men came back from war. See, women didn’t have options to make income but something unprecedented happened during the baby boomers era. There were so many wars, in th…
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 09:30 AM
3

Nature always birthed more baby boys than baby girls. It is not actually a 50/50 chance of having a boy or girl, like commonly believed. When times are good, the female body suppresses the processes that creates baby girls. (So even more boys) When famines hit, the # of baby girls born increases dramatically. There’s multiple competing theories why but there are environmental factors that kill more boys earlier than women and tended to balance the dating pool in the past. Male infants are more l…
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 09:11 AM
2

If you don’t care about having a family and want to date somebody’s grandma go for it. There’s more women over 40 in the states under 40 way more males.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 12:42 AM
2

Demographics. There are more men in number than women in western countries especially. So even if you have a monogamous society some men will get left out. It just doesn’t really get talked about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 03:26 PM
1

I’m white in the southeast USA (population is 1/4th black) and yea… it’s still awkward hanging out with only black folks. Especially when some of them start making social justice jokes against white people ij front of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:41 PM
2

Contextual based on what you see with the person. Casual? Yea probably best not to make a ruckus and nod and agree. Long term relationship? Obviously lifestyle and opinions will need to be more congruent. If you disagree on important things long term probably won’t work.
/r/seduction28/08/22 09:54 AM
1

Nah, just nah. You can’t compare one man taking one woman off the dating market to one guy taking MULTIPLE women off the dating market.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 08:13 AM
1

Yea sounds fun until too many people get left out of the mating market and have too much time on their hands to then turn on society.
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 08:09 AM
1

I sincerely believe a lot of women see pregnancy in the post modern world as a burden, a weakness, aka something to make them dependent and forced to deal with a man. All these run counter to culture messages woman are also receiving. I say this as a guy in my mid 20s in Gen Z, so I’m out here in the young crowds. It’s difficult having a high sex drive. I’m probably attractive enough to “date” a girl just for some consistent sex, but I don’t really care to do something like that. Really wish see…
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 07:45 AM
2

It’s the first time I’ve ever heard of such a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:28 PM
1

Decent girls get picked up off the apps very fast or overexposed because the gender ratios on almost all dating apps skews to extra guys. Unless they’re deliberately single and dating casual.
/r/seduction26/08/22 10:27 PM
7

As someone with aspergers myself, it’s less about misunderstanding social dynamics between individual persons but in a general given context. I get complimented all the time about my one on one talking skills. I’m not quite the best leading a dialogue amongst a group though. The most mis-understood part of people with ASD / aspergers is that they are beyond help socially, or socially affective. Whereas most neurotypical folks have to learn concepts like math and science in a conscious, deliberat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 11:04 AM
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As someone with aspergers myself, it’s less about misunderstanding social dynamics between persons but in a general given context. I get complimented all the time about my one on one talking skills. I’m not quite the best leading a dialogue amongst a group though. The most mis-understood part of people with ASD / aspergers is that they are beyond help socially, or socially affective. Whereas most neurotypical folks have to learn concepts like math and science in a conscious, deliberate manner, l…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 11:03 AM
1

You lack full perspective. No baby boomer worked 60 hours a week for the hell of it to go home alone and watch Netflix. They did it to provide for their damn family. So if you’re a regular guy in this hypergamous landscape that doesn’t think he will have a family why would you work more than part time?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 08:11 AM
0

Then why would cults or religions practice polygamy and not polygyny? They don’t believe in evolution.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/22 12:54 PM
0

Humans innate biology benefits polygamy over polygyny because of the opportunity costs of a woman getting pregnant.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/22 11:56 AM
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It is the foundation to intimate relationships. Meaning everything else that matters in a relationship comes second. Anyone telling you otherwise is probably delusional or was unfortunately born quite unattractive, or some combination of both.
/r/AllPillDebate25/08/22 11:53 AM
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I think the Thursdays app is quite decent conceptually. It’s based around meetups for singles instead of swipes really. Which when you think about it is even better than nightlife because at a singles event you know the women are available immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:22 PM
1

Be a sikkunt not a sadkunt
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 09:35 AM
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No you just promote monogamy and family values again. Making every part of courtship and gender relations behind a pay wall will not bode well for society either. An elderly Japanese woman solution to Japans population crisis? Polygamy ♻️ and we go back to square one.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 04:36 AM
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More like bad for the stability of society. You want to see what a future polygamous society looks like? Well just look at Islamic countries where some men take multiple wives while others get nothing. The leftover men form extremist groups and terrorize society constantly. Think mosque shootings and car bombings. Hope sharing Chad is worth not feeling safe stepping out the front door for all the ladies.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 01:53 AM
1

My general advice is to try to look like a swimmer / personal trainer. You know decent muscularity at 10-15% bodyfat. (Preferably about ~12%)
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/22 10:16 PM
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Looking like a roid’ head or a power lifter (think Eddie Hall) probably won’t help you gain general appeal. Lean muscular with low bodyfat tends to do the best with women, especially younger women. (Think David Laid but maybe not as extreme as he is)
/r/AllPillDebate20/08/22 03:59 PM
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Yea it’s not as simple as letting the population decline. That might be better for the planet at macro scale, but a declining population leads to a weird situation. A situation where you have to split the young population you do have between two large economic needs. Maintaining society to function Caring for a larger elderly population (because a declining population means more old people than young people)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:19 AM
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Too bad the “regulators” are silent Gen and boomers who met their wives at a school dance in 1965 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:15 AM
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What you said about women saying I do “xyz” for myself being related to being treated better by men in general actually makes sense. Without the context it just sounds like a half baked platitude though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:11 AM
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The importance is not controversial. It’s the implication of such. Women can HEALTHILY have 2x the bodyfat of men at roughly 50, 60% the weight of a man. Male actors are routinely pushed with diet and training and other extreme measures for months to shoot 3-4 scenes. Let’s be honest, most guys are learning they can’t afford to look like a slob especially Gen Z. You gotta also be honest that for a guy to look good it takes a higher time investment than a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:55 AM
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https://www.populationpyramid.net/united-states-of-america/2019/ https://www.thebump.com/a/more-baby-boys-than-girls https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/03/30/396384911/why-are-more-baby-boys-born-than-girls
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:55 AM
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You will eat ze bugs!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 03:21 PM
2

This is not true. Extra men are born every year. The gender odds at birth are not 50/50 like commonly believed. Wars are one of the only thing that creates balanced genders ratios in the marriage age bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 03:16 PM
0

Low body fat percentage 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 03:10 PM
1

It (geomaxxing) gets more appealing by the day truthfully
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/22 09:18 PM
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Yea I’m Gen Z and tbh used to make fun of guys who geomaxx. Until I saw this guy he’s about a year younger than I on YouTube. Austin Holleman he keeps it real and he’s funny as hell and he makes it look more appealing tbh
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/22 04:29 PM
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Exactly if every guy on planet earth looksmaxxed, the top 20% would be the top 20% genetically. The implication of women being attracted to a certain % of the population is that some guys get left out regardless of what they do besides monogamy.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/22 04:12 PM
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Lmao the difference is the government almost never makes programs just for men… but programs only for women? Oh man we have multitudes.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/22 11:17 AM
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Good to a degree, like most anything in life moderation is key. Studies say use it or lose it in terms of male libido. Allegedly doing nofap for a week maxes your test levels and occasional release helps prevent risk of prostate cancer.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/22 06:37 PM
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I’m not sure what’s the answer. In America I’d say make it seamless to have children but Europe already kind of does that and their birth rate has tanked also.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/22 03:11 PM
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I never said it didn’t happen? You should really read more carefully. I specifically said eastern countries like Iraq or Asia, that’s what eastern means. Female infanticide does exacerbate the already existing issue but it is not the reason there are more men than women in the world. Its not an accident that extra men are born, there’s no accident about it. Nature has always birthed more baby boys every year besides famines. Here’s some sources for you since you so smart and know it all: https:/…
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/22 02:51 PM
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This is false. Nature has always birthed extra men. Around 105 men for every 100 women. This constitutes about an extra 10 million baby boys born per year. This is well documented in demographics / sociology. Female infanticide at scale was only in Eastern countries.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/22 09:19 AM
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This post is similar to what I’ve said on PPD before. Which is that simping and hypergamy were a means to an end to make the next generation better. (Hypergamy for looks, simping for ample resources for offspring) Yet with the birth rates we have in the west we aren’t even replacing the existing population. We should be more worried about that than simping and hypergamy. Essentially both traits have become mal-adapted.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/22 09:11 AM
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Yes but if you just birth a 5 ft 1 full height male who has no success, does it actually matter if you passed on your genes? Not really. It’s why we see short women be absolutist in terms of dating taller guys. They inherently understand.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 09:05 PM
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I think Epigenetics is more pragmatic and less ignorant minded than eugenics. It can also account for genetic differences amongst races based on biological factors, not some biased racist perception.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 02:42 PM
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I think the tall basketball player is kind of selfish to just be concerned with passing his genes on at any costs. Passing your genes on is not just about you having your next generation, it’s about perpetuating your genes for generations to come.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 02:40 PM
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Blackpill is deeper than lookism. It’s recognizing that dating is supply and demand (redpill) but that nature always births extra men and our post modern age makes the gender ratio across the whole planet uneven. There’s estimates that there are 200 million more men than women on the planet.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/22 02:30 PM
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I’d love to be apart of the mod team. What’s the process to become one?
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 09:26 PM
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Also people just come at you to be a contrarian in petty ways if they don’t agree with your flair instead of actually providing a counter-arguement.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 09:15 PM
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The demographics pill. Aka the blackpill on steroids. You can’t even have a blackpill flair on PPD. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt8JMQUoKto The original documentary is always removed when posted as “incel”. There are “normies” and what have you decent looking (especially young) guys who believe in the blackpill now.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/22 09:14 PM
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This is way too deep and overthought in the issue. It’s simply an issue of personal pathology. Most people tend to have a consistent pathology across most of their behaviors. (Introversion vs extroversion, reserved vs bold, outgoing vs homebody, etc) So if someone is impulsive or attention seeking in their appearance choices, that is likely to transfer to other beliefs / behaviors in that persons personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 02:23 PM
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This is the way
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 02:18 PM
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It’s not a panacea for all of Americas problems sure. It would also be ignorant to say a lot of those kids in those situations don’t grow up to be mal-adjusted adults that the rest of society has to “parent” when they’re an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:39 PM
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Not to discount those peoples experience but the economic gains during the Industrial Age of the 20th century laps most of human history’s economic progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 06:38 PM
2

The ad-hominem(ers)??
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 09:22 AM
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Yes Americans golden era was all on the basis of rabid destruction to most of the other countries in the developed world. Including most of Europes major cities being bombed. The brutal part they don’t teach you in US history is we couldn’t have had the 50s golden age without worldwide destruction to other industrial countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 03:31 PM
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There’s probably more people on OLD, but knowing the context I’d wager there’s equal amount or more relationships formed online from organic or semi social circle. (Dming a mutual friend etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:59 AM
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No polyamory in a pragmatic sense ends up mostly winner takes all with a small % of men getting all the action.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:37 AM
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It’s not online DATING. People are meeting in game chat rooms, Instagram, etc. So online relationships are growing, not on account of online dating. Match.com simply wants that perception that everyone is meeting their significant other on a dating app nowadays. (because they own almost all of them)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:34 AM
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Online gives young women a new level of options. If you try to explain how this affects young womens behavior and perception towards men (specifically Gen Z) you’ll be gaslit about how it hasn’t changed much. I know a few friends that have lost a woman over one small ass “ick” behavior that’s arbitrary meaning a woman breaks it off with the guy. The sitting in the restaurant example type of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:33 AM
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I’m only nice in bed
/r/seduction24/07/22 07:12 AM
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No it’s quite literally based on the gender balance amongst the population. Populationpyramid.net
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:00 PM
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Women are ONLINE, (re: social media) not on online dating. The graph that shows changing trends in how couples meet is technically right. Of the couples still forming, a larger % are starting online but not online dating. Online really means organically online or outside the structure of the apps (video games, dms, etc) The apps are a conglomerate that want you to think meeting on their apps is the new wave for forming relationships. The reality is mainly exploiting lonely guys with extra pocket…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:07 PM
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PPD in a nutshell. Imposing on what men want but by god how dare a man even comment on a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:23 PM
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Men can’t take a passive role in dating so that’s the difference. Good quality women will get taken passively, thus if a woman has to go out of her way to date online she probably wasn’t good enough to get into a relationship passively.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:05 AM
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The elephant in the room is that the west(especially the states) is a sausage fest demographically. There’s literally too many young men and not enough young women! Any space perceived to have an excess of single young women or the chance at said single young women, will end up as a sausage fest as the result of said demographics. This is exacerbated like you said by the fact many women only engage online and aren’t going out in person anymore. Edit: part of this is exclusively immigrating many …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:20 AM
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Nah you can’t mention well research, generational accumulated demographics on this sub!!! Don’t you know any better? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:14 AM
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Technically yes, but there is no legal recourse for a guy who gets sperm jacked, has 0 say on the possibility of abortion and is fiscally on the hook. Ex: Brittany Renner
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:53 PM
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Wiz Khalifa used to smoke weed back in his music videos before it was widely legal. The argument is you can’t prove what a substance was in the video just by watching the playback. You’d have to be there on set, in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:35 PM
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This is the bread and butter of the mens side. Women control access to sex which men understand. It’s the weaponization of sex against said man that creates the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:29 PM
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I have 0 guilt fucking around as a guy, but project some more 🤣 As a 20s male I loooooove sluts and I loooove when they give it up for free You wouldn’t find even my cadaver in a church though
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:24 PM
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Yea the ROI from all the semantics and socializing as the new guy is definitely not worth only a chance of meeting a compatible woman to partner with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:19 PM
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Your definition of your best life might be child free. Mine might be having a family of 5 kids. What each individual wants out of life is relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:04 AM
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The car monopoly has created a society based on social ties instead of socializing and being social. Al having pre-established social ties is truthfully almost more important than one’s social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 10:46 AM
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Yes. The US is not only spread out population density wise, but America suburbs are literally legislated to be anti-social. (monopoly of cars, dead end cul de sacs due to regulations, not walkable)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 10:43 AM
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They all think guys only give an iota of attention to and only hit on Stacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 12:22 PM
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Yea because a guy definitely hasn’t ended up going viral on social media for his cringe pick up attempt. Gamified for views and clicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 12:20 PM
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Did you come up with your “name” in middle school or something? Lmao fluidsocial sounds like a euphemism for a swingers orgy.
/r/seduction12/07/22 04:10 PM
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Somebody’s never heard the phrase witch’s nose.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 01:13 PM
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Self grooming to appear as neat as possible to their person of interest and show femininity.
/r/seduction12/07/22 12:38 AM
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You’ve assumed I want men to get married. Simply I want men to make fully informed choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:04 PM
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Yeah not the exaggerations but the general sentiment of “dating is more difficult for men” is gaslit and discredited constantly on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 03:37 PM
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Most guys just want acknowledgement of what they deal with instead of being called a liar. The gaslighting and calling them a liar for their lived experience is like an extra stab in the back to that respective person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 03:03 PM
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No they can get a man with looks or status who’s not rich but status and wealth are kind of interconnected in this age. I think some women just don’t have any interest in man generally beyond necessary interaction. (In the past this would have included pairing for survival sake) If straight women were infatuated with men, modern day society would be the time it shows. Women are more independent from individual men than ever before and they seem less interested to engage than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:53 PM
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Lol cohabitation is simply a state of living, its doesn’t automatically mean the relationship is going to have longevity. Plus as you even said, this is partly due to economic necessity not just choice, which is going to skew the overall amount of people cohabitating. Marriage at least has the buffer (what’s left of it) of divorce. And actually that’s not true either bud. Sure we can have a nuanced view that some women still date but if you’re talking USA, there’s a record # of single people and…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:44 PM
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I’m a statistician not a theologian. I was forced into a religious background and despised and renounced it. Christopher Hitchens is my favorite scholar to give you an idea. And idk about that. You might want to consult the CDC and the census bureau because they’ve been aggregating changing statistics for about 100 years now. Marriage is at the lowest rate in the United States ever recorded, 5/1000 people getting married. Now let’s see you argue with the CDC website. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fas…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:25 PM
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Really? Then why is the marriage rate in the west in the toilet then if women are so reluctant to choose men just because?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:20 PM
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Some might choose to still date but from what I see when women can take care of themselves financially and have already had child / children, they’re much less likely to care about dating than the same men their age, especially divorcees.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:09 PM
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A few doses of personal anecdotes. And chad chasing doesn’t count as still wanting men, that’s simply chasing the guy for his aesthetics. Aka glorified sperm donor
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:07 PM
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So when women don’t logistically need men anymore, theyll still flock to men in droves? I’m a 20s zoomer on the ground, irl and I consistently see the opposite. I’m not against women having their autonomy by the way, but to ignore the macro-scale social consequences of such is just ignorant
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:04 PM
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If you make women entirely independent and separated from men, they’ll treat men like glorified sperm donors and act like a mama bear with the offspring. It’s really odd to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:48 AM
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Yea if you’re willing to pay a cover. When I go out with my boys we specifically will not patronize any club or bar with a cover (especially if it’s only for guys)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:50 AM
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Pretty sure his point was charging men an entry fee to these events is the financial socialization that allows them to give the women the free drinks in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 01:14 AM
1

There is not much cohesion on the RP sphere. Easier said than done.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:15 AM
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Agreed, doesn’t mean everything those grifters say isn’t good material, just none of it is worth paying for. I mean you can tell based on their free video material they don’t have ground shaking and profound information.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:14 AM
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As you get older your primary sex hormone production decreases (so men start producing slightly less test and more estrogen, exact opposite for women). Womens libido goes up in their thirties and beyond because (slowly) their test levels are rising.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:42 PM
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Men may be becoming obese faster than women at the current moment. However, in the extremely obese category, it’s not even a contest. There’s 2x women than men in that category (worse than you think, women can get away with higher bf %) in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:14 PM
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Yea the ratio at birth is skewed but in America it’s even worse. Young women move to college towns and urban areas in droves, plus as you said America is notorious for importing tons of extra single men to do agricultural work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:28 AM
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I mean it makes sense when you look online. Women complaining about having too many options to deal with while some guys getting literally nothing. How can you explain such a disparity besides the conclusion that there’s extra men????
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:20 AM
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Not sure why. If I was a woman I’d love to hear that the world is a sausage fest. It’s only to womens overall advantage. They’re already benefitting by interacting with the opposite sex way more than many men, thus why we see standards only going up. If you have a “shortage” of one gender, they end up interacting with the opposite gender much more than the surplus gender, generally. (It’s simply mathematics)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 10:04 AM
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That’s actually not true anymore. Those factors were war and workplace accidents, both of which society has greatly reduced the mortality in the past century.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:53 AM
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American society is built off having a forbidden social topic. Historically that was sex. (Puritanism culture) Now the taboo social topic is the worldwide male surplus. We’re living in an unprecedented sausage fest. Wars are just a product of multiple societies / cultures / tribes having excess young men. It was common for countries to send their excess young men to colonize or explore unfounded territory. (Columbus, Lewis & Clark)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:52 AM
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It prevents conception apparently and that may soon be illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:58 AM
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My state of South Carolina is already taking steps backwards. They don’t waste time on that around here. Currently, abortion has been banned after 6 weeks, and they’re now voting in banning plan B and IUDS. I have no doubt they’ll come for condoms next, and if they do, I’ll be moving. I am not putting up with being forced into fatherhood simply for enjoying my youth. The state economy can crumble to shit for all I care if they want to keep going backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:43 PM
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Consumption based taxes and women generally consume more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 09:40 PM
2

Men forced by the state to pay child support speaking to pro-choice women: james Franco hanging meme First time?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 09:52 AM
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Good bot
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:44 AM
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“I wish we could pick our baby daddies.” -some low iq bitch on twitter. Wish I was joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:30 PM
3

Lol why don’t you talk to all the men who destroyed their body to build the roads and buildings you utilize daily. Here’s an idea. Don’t want to be neurotic about pregnancy? Then use contraceptives or be abstinent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:49 PM
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The future politic will be gender divided. As men and women continue to live more bifurcated lives, voting patterns by gender will start to look like their own parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:44 PM
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It’s almost like GDP and birth rate and directly correlated!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:40 PM
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Are we really going to compare some of the side effects during pregnancy to a guy spending 18 years providing for someone else’s kid? Yeah I might need a break from this sub. That’s some middle school IQ shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 03:09 PM
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Boom there’s the firecracker. When you go out of your way to make all these changes, after all that logistical effort, you’re still gonna be on your own. If anything, you’ll have less social ties and be more alienated living across the globe from your home country.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:58 AM
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I lean more pro choice generally. However I’m of the opinion that allowing for one type of abortion (whether that’s physical or financial) means not offering both at the same time is not equitable to both genders. Basically as it stands today physical abortion should be illegal not because anything to do with its morality, but because financial abortion is not legal at the same time as physical. Imo, it is an all or nothing scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 03:45 PM
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Yea they just have knife duels in the street instead. So no worrying about stray bullets, just worry about random blades poking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:25 AM
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Sorry I should have said that it’s ignorant to just say autism = mass shooter like replace that with black person or any other minority group and it would not be acceptable like wtf. Yes people on the spectrum are a statistical minority. (1/100) I’m not concerned with feelings but I am concerned with people running around saying people with my same mental condition are likely to go shoot strangers. It’s insensitive because people on the spectrum already go thru enough social isolation just from …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:40 PM
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Guerilla warfare has entered the chat. You’re also assuming everyone in the military would fall in line and not defect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:55 PM
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It’s paywalled sadly. But I am on the spectrum myself. People can have autism + a number of co-existing mental health conditions such as anti-social personality disorder, OCD, ADHD, depression, depersonalization. You may not understand it, but it’s not a direct correlation. The article even mentions other mental health issues in the title and says “including autism”. It’s also insensitive to just say autism = potential mass shooter when people on the spectrum are already socially outcasted just …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:50 PM
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Yea Ima need to see some studies on that. If anything people with ASD are more likely to be victims of violent crime. That has been statistically proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:31 PM
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Autism does not make people violent. Now somebody with autism could have a co-morbidity like anti social personality disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:25 PM
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You know terrorist groups take over schools in the Middle East and Africa right? Ever heard of Boka Haram? Where they kidnapped the young girls? Or the part that got left out where they lit the young boys on fire with gasoline?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:22 PM
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There have been numerous instances including young women. It’s just more likely to be a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:03 PM
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Sex strikes have been used to successfully stop men in war but yes keep lecturing us how sex isn’t important to men. Cause if sex wasn’t important to men none of us would be here on this planet right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:01 PM
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It’s funny that this gets brought up but any time you bring up bl@ckpill demographics you get your comment removed so here I go. 1. In the age cohorts below 40 (ya know the ages people have families) the USA has an extra # of single young men. If every person under 40 paired up in the USA, there would still be leftover single young men. 2 Suburban sprawl. Suburban sprawl refers to the rapid growth of American suburbs with no regard for future urban planning. This was fine when America was consta…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:55 PM
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The whole point of Epigenetics is it doesn’t matter if you have good genes if you have terrible diet and lifestyle choices it will still activate shitty genes. Genes are not just about what you’re born with it’s about gene expression also.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:55 PM
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Children born to obese parents have a 30% likelihood of life long obesity for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:17 AM
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Taking advantage of hypergamy for quick lays is a favorite past time of mine. Don’t want to get pumped and dumped? Then don’t be a hypergamous biatch lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 10:55 AM
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Put this damn anecdote in the sidebar ffs. Cause this comment is half the debate of the sub lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 10:42 AM
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Being a single parent does not just mean you have kids but are single. It means you are single and responsible for majority custody of children at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 03:02 PM
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I feel bad for the kids of struggling single moms. I don’t feel bad enough to step in to play step dad though. Women in their later 30s - early 40s with adolescent kids is one thing. A young 20 something mother with young, dependent kids who need constant supervision is another. They get a bad wrap because women have never had more control over the birth process in the past than they do now. As the great Mr Kevin Samuels said it, “there are no more accidental births in the post-modern age”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:16 PM
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Ever heard of “fake lats syndrome?” Basically a guy who’s usually actually insecure about his masculinity but consciously tries to project that he’s one of the most masculine men in the room to a point of cringe. Also pretty sure Uber just means “very” in German.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:16 PM
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Women don’t care about the short, lanky balding guy who acts uber masculine and she wouldn’t care if he was a doormat she specifically asked for if she’s not attracted in the first place. We want traditional gender roles from people we are already physically attracted to. Physical attraction cannot be supplicated, compensated for, or negotiated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:20 PM
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It shouldn’t be pay per match. It should have natural parameters that you can pay to bypass. Similar to how streaming has ads, let’s say you can only have 5 matches at the same time on a free swiping app. Users could pay for a more premium version that allows them 10 matches at a time for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:35 PM
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Ok then. Show me some booming birth rates and or marriage rates in the west. Oh that’s right they’re falling into the toilet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:42 PM
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Yea easier said than done when you can’t afford to live alone in a city in a pandemic. I truly hate suburbs. It’s the purgatory of life lol. I’d much rather live in dead center of NYC or bum f*ck Alaska before I would choose moving to the suburbs. My hand was forced by circumstances caused by the pandemic. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:51 PM
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I mean that’s just a theory based on sociology. The graph does show how for heterosexuals, meeting through friends or family has declined but bars and online is on the rise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:13 PM
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https://www.statista.com/chart/20822/way-of-meeting-partner-heterosexual-us-couples/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:04 PM
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If you live in the US it’s actually not your fault. Currently 24 and living in the suburbs (thank you pandemic 😐) and yea it’s the same for me. Mind you I just moved from an urban area exactly the opposite, an over abundance of young women. Not joking when I say everyone I see in public is 50+ or kids. If you’re a young guy and you don’t live near a college campus or in a city on the US, in 2022, good luck having any semblance of a dating pool lmao. USA demographics are grim. In every age cohort…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:01 PM
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You are correct that bars were places for socialization after long working days, mainly blue collar men. Statistically, it wasn’t notorious for people meeting their significant other. That was almost always done through social circles. LGBT designated bars or venues were rare but did exist in metropolitan areas of the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:55 PM
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Grindr came out 2008 and Tinder in 2012. I don’t know for sure but I’m going to assume since Grindr came out much earlier with the same swiping model, that they just copied it for Tinder. Bars and club scenes were notorious as LGBT meet ups and hang outs when it was still a taboo, also. The entire heterosexual courtship structure in the west is built by imitation of the LGBT. And we wonder why it doesn’t work for straight people…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:40 PM
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Swiping apps and cold approach both have origins in the homosexual community for men wanting casual encounters with other men. Tinder is based off Grindr, and cold approach culture is based on the days being LGBT was likely to get you beaten up or killed. They’ll never be even close to effective for heterosexuals because both concepts are about casting a wide net. Heterosexual relations rarely work like that. Men and women tend to get to know each other personally first.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:16 PM
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Sex in the way you describe is objectively unsanitary, not gross. Being disgusted or grossed out is subjective. With this same logic I could argue that sex is anything but disgusting to promote polyamory.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:35 PM
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Lol come to the southeastern USA. I’m in my mid 20s and there’s already an ample amount of single moms / overweight girls in their early 20s. I’ll pass, stack my cash, and chase their younger counterparts that are in their early to mid 20s when I’m close to 30. Sure the number of women with past relationship “baggage” might increase as you get older but I’m barely out of college and the dating pool is already a minefield for me. I see no reason to not get more economically established first. Am …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 01:02 PM
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Schrodingers commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:21 AM
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We will see with what autopsy and toxicology report says. Not sure if many people know that he would do late night streams and drink Red Bull on almost every stream. Other people suspect the 💉 but who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:49 PM
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Kevin is a micro-cosm of the larger, bifurcated gender politics in the west. Kevin gave men tough love for years and got little traction on his channel. His “you’re average at best” video went viral because he blatantly challenged hypergamy against women. Kevin was spot on there needs to be more personal accountability in the culture. People that celebrated his death show their bad character and morals. I didn’t agree with lots of his views, especially marriage. That said, dude wasn’t afraid to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:59 PM
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Apex fallacy: characteristics of the most visible persons of a group, can be applied to all persons of said same group (close to stereotyping) Men as a cohort being blamed for rapist, pump n dump bad boys, child molestation, assumptions of “patriarchal power” when most mens were pawns for other, more elite men, and assumptions as the predator in any given situation. The reality is 9/10 guys were brought up to contribute to their community and have a family. Whenever you see the apex fallacy, jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:38 PM
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Women’s demeanor about sexuality shapes the behavior men enact to get said women. As I said in another thread, if there’s anything most men can adapt to, it’s changing mindset / behavior to get laid. Male sex drive and the need to procreate leads to a “by any means necessary” pathology for some men. Tossing aside non-consensual sexual relations, it’s the nature of the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:41 PM
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So you could live without sanitation, trucking of goods, and electricity? All these fields are society sustaining and also 9/10 men in the positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:27 PM
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The three underlying important factors that are being ignored. Men are incredibly simplistic. I know many guys that buy plain color hoodies for their wardrobe for 5-10+ years as long as they fit. (At least in USA, possibly most western countries) Only men produce more than they consume in tax revenue, as a cohort. This does not imply that no woman pays net taxes. If you’re a woman who pays net taxes but doesn’t like hearing men say women as a group consume more than they produce, then hold other…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 06:20 PM
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The gas has been lit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 12:55 AM
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Despite whatever stuff anyone here says about a progressive society, women still almost always take a passive demeanor with guys. I’ve been approached by plenty of women in bar scene for casual (Gen Z) but not really actually dating, lol. Not that they’re unattractive but usually nothing special tbh. I’m also well over 6 ft and stay in decent shape which helps. It can be double edged sword because some very unattractive women feel emboldened nowadays. Which is one thing, but a lot of these same …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 09:46 AM
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Reddit: you’re fired! FDS: Nah fuck you I quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 08:32 AM
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I think this is partly confirmation bias. This is a debate sub so by context, people are more likely to comment in this sub than just browse like they may do in other subs. Plus many of the topics here are controversial. Just my 2 cents.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:05 PM
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The surges in t levels from development in puberty cause some boys to become impulsive decision makers. Whether that’s flipping atvs, driving boats drunk, or relentlessly pursuing as many hookups as possible in a short term.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:31 AM
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Willingness to walk away as a man is a requirement in dating nowadays. If not you leave yourself open to ripe exploitation. Willingness to walk away also does not indicate or imply that someone has a “fleeting” attitude or sentiment towards a particular relationship. Even if we would have dated, I didn’t plan to get married at all until closer to 30 anyways, I was on regular schedule to graduate university the next year so was only ~21 at the time. I was willing to compromise and be faithful to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 08:48 AM
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You could just be a “late bloomer / slow developer” type of ager which is great long term. I’m sorta in the same boat as you. Wish I had a dollar for every time I’ve been called baby face, to now pretty boy, or Justin Bieber comparisons lol. I’m 24 now and still regularly get glares when I get carded. My build is the opposite of what you described though so that’s helped me pull plenty women. 6 ft 2, 220 or so. Women either tend to think I’m younger than them and not be interested or practically…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 08:37 AM
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It is only half about age though. If a guy is thinking very long term, family creation / planning then going with a younger woman will always give him a greater time window / allow him to have more kids. Especially because as women get closer to ~40 and fertility begins to decline, inducing pregnancy thru IVF is extremely pricey and still not guaranteed to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 08:27 AM
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I don’t know many young women who would be OK with every single date just being a free park date. Otherwise I would do free dates only. Yet I also am not splurging on some woman I barely know. Low investment dates are a happy medium in my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:27 PM
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Nah I move accordingly. First few dates are 20-30 dollar maximum, low investment. Hell that’s honestly about a good of a litmus test as actually going on a date. If she’s not willing to at least go on a few low investment dates to feel you out, she doesn’t care enough for you to invest in her. If that means I go on fewer dates with higher quality women I’d much rather do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:01 PM
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Yea the advice is preventative. Don’t be a super slut in the first place and you have less to worry about as a woman. And if her hoe tendencies have a permanent digital footprint? Yea good luck sweetheart the internet is for eternity. Ask the University of UC Davis in SoCal. Spent 100,000+ to scrub one picture from the internet. One picture off the net and failed and I can go find it on google in 5 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:58 PM
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Aka “the game” as it’s notoriously called.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:56 PM
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It’s ok. Modern women (tend, general speaking here) want the agency of hookup culture but not the consequences or abjections. Which is anti-thetical to how our entire society works otherwise. In society, having certain permissions / rights also implies a duty attached to said rights. Like the classic example with free speech. Sure you can yell fire in a movie theater for the fuck of it for shits and gigs, doesn’t mean you should.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:55 PM
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The right woman is one who is upfront and honest to not just to use the guy as a utility, while already knowing she has 0 romantic intentions with such man. Whether that’s buying her things or doing her favors. It’s not that difficult for sure and it goes both ways. Both ambiguous sides won’t change. That’s why it’s called the “game” cause both genders are toying around with each other in the process. It is what it is. Your responsibility as an individual is to be aware of the game and choose yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:47 PM
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I had a girl try to make me her boyfriend while I was one of the better lookin guys in my fraternity, in a college that had more female than male students. She wanted to make me wait until I committed for sex. Lol, told her straight up that I was OK with it, but until we date I would still be hooking up with other women because I’m a grown man with a sex drive and plenty of willing women to hook up with in the vicinity. And guess what? If she truly wanted me, she didn’t have a choice but to acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:54 PM
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These dating / marriage trends were already here before we bothered to acknowledge them. Actually in the US, without immigration would have had below replacement fertility since the year ~2000. Notice how you didn’t even hear about it until our immigration plummeted and isn’t coming back that, now, people are concerned with birth rates. God forbid society do anything preventative. God forbid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 03:41 PM
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TRPs Streisand effect online will have macro-level societal consequences in the next generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:50 AM
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Women end up rewarding whatever behavior makes guys get laid more successfully. If they complain about getting pumped and dumped by assholes, maybe make a conscious effort to hook up with the introverted nerd with big rim glasses. Oh right he’s too boring to get the endorphins running. I see many women that want a guy with contradictory presentation. A guy who look likes a bad boy but is “sensitive”! In the liberated day and age women think they’re just exercising autonomy by choosing certain me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:42 AM
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Marriage being about the context of two loving partners is a modern day context. In the past marriages were for business reasons / combining families.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 09:43 PM
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That all fine and dandy. Let’s not downplay the men who get led on and frankly used by women with no remorse, apology, or vindication for time, attention, and or resources. Just because sexual assault vs being led on is not equal, it’s the closest thing to an equivalent in the context of what each gender has to be wary of.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 04:33 PM
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Seriously.. at least the garden tool produces food.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/04/22 12:21 PM
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Machiavelli’s ruse is up. I notice a lot of manipulation women use is Machiavellian in nature.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/04/22 12:14 PM
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In the past, the woman would have never told him such a thing because of a thing called SHAME! Too bad we live in this disgusting culture that encourages women to openly disrespect men. He gave her his biggest promise for semantics I guess. What’s that? Marriage and birth rates are in the toilet? Huh had no idea.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/04/22 12:01 PM
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It was expected to for men to “grow up” and “man up” and easily available sex work would obviously put a dent in that. For some guys that may mean playing step-dad. If you want to shame men to “grow up” culturally then you have to shame women being promiscuous, culturally and that’s not going to happen. So maybe I should have clarified that men weren’t expected to play step dad but they were expected to take a paternal role, eventually. Whether that was by having their own family or being step p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:58 PM
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I’m not downplaying either genders concerns. Simply showing how if men date like 4d chess there is something inherently wrong with them, whereas women being practically strategic at dating gets null reactions. That is my interpretation being in this sub, generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 06:12 PM
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Ikr if we aren’t coming in from the woodwork to save women from their own mistakes, we should all be soiled war cannon fodder on behalf of the elites. Not much room for in between nuance on this sub, imo!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 03:38 PM
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Didnt ya know? Women is always amazin and you can always assume so! Mens don’t need to assume women are predatory or manipulative? Noooo! How else would they be vulnerable, ripe pickings for such women? Women being neurotic about a man’s intentions? She’s just being safe to not get take advantage of. Men being neurotic about a woman’s intentions? Misogeeenist. Who hurt you?! Why do you hate women???! (No no men def aren’t trying to do the same thing and not be financially taken advantage of…)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 11:32 AM
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It’s not due to their social status. Men as an aggregate produce more resources than consume. So courtship and sex as a means of society recycling that labor / value, the economic system depends on this contingency. Nobody cares that the early 30s, single construction worker is seeing a prostitute. They care that he’s not trying to court that 26 year old single mom anymore, because he can now visit the escort. A paternal role (reg parent or step parent) that was once expected and taken for grant…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 10:18 AM
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Demographically, yes. Men follow the tendency to date younger and at least in the USA, demographics of the population are declining and skewing older. (entire population is getting older) Meaning more older men competing for younger women, usually post divorce. A certain % of young women will be taken thru alternative channels like sugar daddies, making venues where young people would meet (bars, club) bad ratios with tons of extra guys around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:36 AM
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Have you even read redpill? The content creators and inhabitants of this sub would argue opposite of you, they would definitely say rampant hypergamy is contributing to a decline in birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 11:26 AM
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Great Reset: “You” will own nothing and be happy!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 03:39 PM
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Because a belief that women have more inherent value in relationships. So by you doing all the hoops to jump through, being the entertaining clown, paying and leading, now you’re both equal when all she did was show up. And we wonder why the marriage rate and birth rate isn’t just declining, it’s snowballing down a mountain 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 03:15 PM
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Sociologically, all men have an incentive to boost their lay count, women have every incentive to downplay it or say less than the actual number. Move accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 08:24 AM
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This is kind of on point. I’d say it’s more akin to casual sex culture leads to less families and having a family is a huge motivator for a man’s productive economic output. You don’t have to like it, it’s just facts. Most guys if they didn’t try to pursue / court women or have a family, could live extremely frugally and not work as much. (Look at labor participation, 1/3 of working age men unemployed and many more working only part time) There’s another argument to be made that technology will …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:32 PM
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Try being a fit guy in the fat Southeast USA. Fit people in the fatter areas get the shortest end of that stick. Suxx 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 09:38 AM
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Women inherently know having sex with a guy early on risks being pumped and dumped. Everyone on this sub is old enough and mature enough to understand this. Let’s cut the crap of women just casually meandering through life blissfully unaware of anything relating to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:37 AM
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Get in athletic shape depending on what your starting point is. For some guys that will be fat loss, for others it will be muscle gains. Learn basic but universal concepts about fashion. Ex: pair complementary colors of the color wheel in your outfit, find out what hairstyles suit your face / head shape best because women do notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:15 AM
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One of the most balanced comments Ive seen in the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 12:02 AM
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If women want men to become less fat and physically more attractive, then maybe they should politically go after the sugar companies that fill our foods with added sugars.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 10:34 AM
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Dating is a means to an end to finding a partner. Apps turn the process into a commodity. How does one sell a product / service effectively? Repeat customers. More revenue and less needed spending on advertising. So trying to turn something that’s a means to an end into a repeat purchase is antithetical. So ironically, dating services / apps have an inverse incentive to help you achieve full success. Cause if you get full success, that’s lost revenue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 10:30 AM
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I’d argue that we live in a hyper-capitalist society in the USA. Regular capitalism still prioritized families and communities. Hyper-capitalism sees everything as an opportunity to commodify and capitalize in a literal sense. I think in terms of actual economic output, capitalist societies would be better focusing on families and continually growing their populations over making every last thing a commodity to buy. It would be more prosperous. We will see it all play out in 20-30 years when com…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:38 PM
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Well as a young guy it’s hard to move any other way but assume most young chicks have had probably at least a few partners. Context matters, and we are in a digital context where hookups can be initiated in private messages, from the privacy of one’s home, with the communication deleted at a later time. So technology has brought us to a context of assumed/ accessible private promiscuity, and it’s debatably a Pandora’s box. Can we revert to ideals that were prominent before said cultural shift? P…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:23 PM
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I wasn’t complaining about women being empowered and having casual sex. If anything I’ve benefitted personally from traditional gender roles being diminished because I’ve been approached by women for casual sex unsolicited. My original comment was just saying that power and responsibility are linked. So hookup culture will exist as long as women allow it. Most men have 0 say about a casual sex culture because they have little sway. Like I said I don’t “enjoy” the decline, I revel in it. I active…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:11 PM
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“My” idea of the west would still have a high social and community appeal to family. The west I live in has been degenerate since I was born in the late 90s. Thus I don’t enjoy the decline, I revel in it. I wine and dine with it, bathe in it with a glass of anthropologic champagne if you will. I was born far too late to actually do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 12:02 PM
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No just recognizing that in the context of casual sex one gender has way more power and sway so logically they have more responsibility. With great power comes great responsibilities but we live in the West and people don’t want to have that conversation. I’m a non-religious libertarian. I could care less what consenting adults do behind closed doors whether I approve or agree or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:43 AM
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Religions provide morals. They also have incentive for “believers” to spread their beliefs at any expense, including violence and intimidation of death, in some bullshit pseudo rat race to become the world dominant religion. Cue crusades to Islamic extremists. Religion is not free from the egotistical side of the human psyche. Atheism is having humility and honesty about consciousness and afterlife. Being honest that you don’t know for sure what happens. Before I get the “religion is a belief” y…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:41 AM
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Atheism provides a rational framework to life. There is no afterlife? Well, then this one really fucking counts then. Never understood the religious argument of, “oh those people don’t believe in an afterlife so they don’t care about morals and etc.” If anything if you believed there was no afterlife, wouldn’t that make you appreciate this life that much more?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:18 AM
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Hmmmm… I wonder which gender has an easier time getting casual sex and thus, the onus would be on that gender to actually cause the cultural shift…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 11:15 AM
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Poisoning the well is real for guys. Women talk, a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 08:17 AM
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The theory is that women like physicality (height, size, and large skeletal frame) because it signals success in intrasexual competition in men. Aka a dude that looks like he could kick ass in a fist fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 08:01 AM
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If they really wanted to help the poor folks they could eliminate income taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 09:16 AM
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Women that keep guys in the friend zone are also lying by omission by leading him on. Friend zone vs “fuck zone” at least the chick gets sexual fulfillment. Guy in the friend zone just gets his time wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 03:13 PM
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I agree. When the shame stigma behind womens sexuality became a no no, well then now you’ve set a standard that nobody can be shamed (if you’re assuming all persons are equal, which is frequently pushed in modern society). Men are still shamed to be in their gender role but when you step back you realize nobody can enforce such. Feminism freed women sexually and freed mens lifestyle choices. Which is fantastic for the individual but has real consequences for broader society. My point is there ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 02:49 PM
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I mean both sexes have sociological incentives to lie based on perceived self-worth / status. So it all just kinda has to be taken with a grain of salt. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:20 AM
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Would you do me a favor and watch a YouTube video by Jolly Heretic called, “Why the Collapse of Patriarchy is creating a Generation of evil men?” He explains that the incel phenomenon is beyond their control and is due to civilization changing rapidly and past required sociological cooperation becoming obsolete very quickly. Thus humans are ecologically becoming much more Darwinian again. There are sociological and ecological factors that are preventing guys from getting laid, yes even though th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:14 AM
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Because female sexuality is a biological filter to constantly improve the gene pool. Meaning a certain % of guys will probably always be sidelined. If guys “stats” about muscles, height, eye color, hair color, etc were super close, women would still pick the guys that are marginally better.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:02 AM
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Realistically, you’re only going to interact with a small % of the overall population in a close enough scale to matter. (ie conversation, 1 on 1 or small group socializing) Does this mean everyone’s anecdotal experience carries zero weight and legitimacy in proving a point? Not necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 10:59 AM
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Sex dolls and five finger Felicia.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 10:56 AM
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Lowering your standards in aggregate leads to all “pursuers” (ie mainly men) undercutting each other constantly for lowering quality of women. Everyone losses except the pursued party.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 10:53 AM
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Yea even as someone on the red pill side I get tired of hearing one sided self improvement for men. Yea sure I’m going to eat ~2000 calories a day, exercise 4-6 days a week, just to get a chick with a bmi of 30 who can’t put down the Ben and Jerry’s? I’ll pick five finger Felicia over that any day and have done so before.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 10:43 AM
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Fap is lyfe
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 09:07 PM
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Your flair is hilarious, by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 11:46 AM
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Oh whole heartedly agree. I’ve had to turn down some overweight and pushy women in the past 2-3 years. The obesity rate in the states is actually sad as someone who’s a healthy weight. Especially as a guy, women in the states are twice as likely to be morbidly obese than men. In the south it’s a friggin epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 11:41 AM
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You’d think they would have used the law of large numbers and sampled ~1000 folks per age bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 11:39 AM
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It’s really hard for women to price themselves out of casual sex though. Plenty of guys with abysmal standards for ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 11:37 AM
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For me it’s multi faceted. I have aspergers AND I’m an only child so my social skills are super stunted. I basically only got an opportunity to socialize with others my age in a public setting. I don’t have any sisters or female cousins so my only exposure to girls my age was only in a public setting until around college. So no surprise my social circle stays pretty small. Having the disposition of Socrates (yes I’m a questioning asshat who loves to debate) is cool but not sexy. I hate taking pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 12:08 PM
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Simping is the male desire for provision and nurturing of women taken to the level as a mal-adaptive aka makes the guy a ripe target for abuse or being viewed as a utility. Maladaptive meaning guys still implement the strategy even though it not only doesn’t help, it can actively work against them. Simping is just giving unwanted attention, praise, or (god forbid) resources without cause or to some woman a man doesn’t even know. The guy thinks he has a chance but in reality is wasting his time, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:42 PM
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It also implies that most every woman already has a 10 year plan / is responsible. Or it admits that men have to do more / invest more than women for a relationship. I’m going with the latter over the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:26 PM
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Nope. Saying pride is bad doesn’t imply that shame is the desired outcome instead. Not even religious but I agree with the Bible on, “pride before the fall”. Pride makes the ego larger. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. They didn’t send the kid away to shame the woman. Surprise surprise that at one point in time both men and women knew and were willing to admit that being a single mom would hurt a woman’s future prospects. That’s why the kid and / or mother was sent off to stay somewher…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 03:40 PM
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Guys need to get off social media and OLD if not successful. Focus on themselves. Young guys have 0 leverage nowadays between culture and tech. I’d still recommend it to guys with a limited social circle that feel their only options are online. Do that or if family is THAT important to you as a westerner, seriously research / look in to / consider going abroad. The USA is culturally a dead zone. As a guy without leverage, by engaging with those systems of OLD and social media validating women un…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 02:23 PM
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Yea and they’d send the women away hush hush or adopt the kid out. Not proudly parade that they carried a kid out of wedlock. They didn’t have birth control or abortion either so there’s even less excuses today. Being prideful in single parenthood is disgusting and selfish on part of your child’s development.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 01:13 PM
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“Unique dating environment” is a hilarious way to put it. It’s more like a failing dating culture / environment by most every metric.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 01:12 PM
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I don’t think women realize most men have a binary of standards. Very little standards to sleep with a woman but very high standards to wife one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 02:07 PM
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Most guys accept hypergamy at face value. The truth is men are upset at the way OLD and social media algorithms are boosting hypergamy like a rocket out of the stratosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 01:40 PM
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In the context of both parties having massive generational wealth then yea it doesn’t matter. Pretty sure Rihanna is much richer than ASAP Rocky but they’re both filthy rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 04:04 PM
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Cliche / type cast type guys (rebel, surfer, business man, etc.) can get bonus points if that’s the woman’s type. I’m convinced Kim is dating Pete for abject reasons. To show how quick she can rebound, and I think she wants to fit in with her sisters who have also dated type cast skinny punk / rocker guys. Also when the context is both parties being multi-millionaires it is a moot point. There’s not going to be a huge difference in lifestyle. Regular people are hung up on socio-economics because…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:16 PM
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Also you have to be objectively honest based on humans natural ecology. Early humans it would have been unfathomable to have such an excess availability of food and they were much more physically active and exerting themselves to burn calories. Someone with such excess fat weight confuses our brain because based on our ecology of the past, accumulating that much fat shouldn’t be possible. (To our subconscious)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:03 PM
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It’s almost like men are looking for a healthy and fertile women to have kids with so their own children will have as few health problems as possible. Kids born to both obese parents are 80% likely to stay obese their. entire. life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:59 PM
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Women are terrified of a conservative authoritarian state coming about from le “incels” and “alt-righters”. See: Handmaids Tale Some of these same women shit all over those groups in a general manner, not realizing by further polarizing those types, you are pushing them further to the political edges. Thus making their own fears of people pushing for authoritarianism even more likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:54 PM
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Women are hypergamous because men are open to being hypogamous and polyamorous by default, and if enough men are hypogamous / polyamorous (50%+) then it will become a dominant dating market force.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:51 PM
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1000%
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:43 PM
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And guys who would have the best lean physiques with their muscle mass, but have some extra fat just get labeled like strongman type, big man, or “burly”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:24 PM
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So… stereotypes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:18 PM
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Not a teenager. There are zoomers who are 21+. I’m mid twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:09 PM
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I find it a bit funny that the reality is that people who would be considered above average if they were thin / healthy weight are still moderately attractive with some extra body fat. Aka people who were born above average can get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:00 PM
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No @funlightmandarin is correct. Almost all women who are bigger but still attractive usually have similar ratios in hips to waist and other fertility metrics as thin women except with extra weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:02 PM
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Most of them do go for hot guy Chad nowadays though because the access sits in their front pocket or purse. Maybe it’s generational, but as a Zoomer guy I see it constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:56 PM
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Women will downplay “Chad” and Chad treatment for a few reasons. They know Chad has experience of women not playing games, so Chad sees through the “play hard to get bs” Acknowledging the experience “Chad” gets with less drama, girls making an effort for them first, etc would acknowledge that dating is not equitable for all men, and we can’t have billy beta demanding Chad treatment for his sweet sweet resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:44 PM
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Lol they have access to “Chads”. It’s called Instagram. If you don’t think young Gen Z girls are out here with sugar daddies, being promiscuous, DMing athletes to get “flown out” only in 5-10 years looking for a regular-degular dude, you’re in for some culture shock.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:42 PM
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The irony of this comment. At least in the states colleges are already pre-dominantly female.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:30 PM
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Not sure if you’ve ever taken a stats course before, but variation between survey results of ~1000 people polled show little variation up to the multitude of thousands / hundred thousand surveyed. So yes it is possible to get an accurate reading from a small subset of the population assuming you don’t intentionally pick a specific type of crowd. (More liberal overall, or more conservative overall, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:27 PM
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Ever went to a house party or club? People aren’t hooking up on the dance floor like animals lmao. They pair off, catch an Uber or walk to someone’s private residence. Of course you aren’t going to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:22 PM
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“Chad” wasn’t super hawt you’re just insekure!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:17 PM
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I’ll gladly go back even though I have nothing to relearn when you actually present an argument instead of a dismissal without any evidence. “Hur Dur your comment is dumb cause I said so now go back to middle school.” Maybe you need to retake biology. The whole point of my comment was men put women on a pedestal because of biology, it just happens to be pushed culturally in conjunction. That won’t change culturally unless we develop babies from day 0 to month 9 in test tube environments outside …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:29 PM
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looks at western birth rates and marriages rates the average man and woman WERE getting together in the past… not so much any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:37 PM
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4-7 partners pre OLD and social media. Access to sexuality is at an all time high. I bet if they did this study again in 15-20 years the average would be 10+.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:20 PM
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It’s less about the drama the women experiences. It’s more about the baggage she brings for her new significant other to deal with. Which is truly unfair to the young guys who put their head down and worked hard at the cost of their youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:19 PM
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They incubate the sperm and develop it into a child. Something we have yet to make industrial or outsourced from the human body. Doesn’t matter if dudes are being simp level, due to this women will always have the upper hand with options in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:18 PM
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How dare you put the developmental environment of the next generation above your selfish hedonistic wants and needs! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 03:15 PM
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It’s not capitalism. It’s demographics and economics, which capitalism is just at the whim of.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 03:08 PM
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The elite globalist in the 1970s totally didn’t make public speeches about depopulation, spread agendas to divide the genders, and print more of the currencies to make economics harder on purpose. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 03:07 PM
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whistle whistles in the wind something something short sighted thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 02:39 PM
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Yep. If women in en masse are going to protest playing mommy / not even have kids, I’ll just laugh my ass off at their hypergamy. Hypergamy is suppose to be a means to an end to ensure resources for your offspring. Not so Jerry the simp will buy you a sports car just for existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 02:32 PM
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So I guess if I encountered this girl and interacted with her I should just go for the pump and dump, wile carrying none if she gets left vulnerable and pregnant. Cause it’s in my nature!!!!! It’s just nature to abuse the opposite sex! Yet if you pull the reverse uno card on me as a woman, I shall complain about how all men are trash! Reee!!! Just because humans are animals doesn’t mean we have to always act like it! We have large enough brains to rationalize for a reason, damnit! A wise man onc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 02:29 PM
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I never said nor implied either gender was pushing the standard onto one another. Just recognizing that male body dysmorphia in entertainment doesn’t even get discussed when it is MUCH more dangerous than just starving yourself. You’re talking excessive exercise, calorie restriction, purposely dehydrating oneself for a day+ at a time, performance enhancing drugs, the works. We got to these standards because people constantly push the envelope to get attention until we reach a cultural reflection…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:45 PM
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It is not easier for men to find quality relationships than it is for women to find hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 12:57 PM
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Hollywood body dysmorphia applies to both genders. Male actors will literally borderline kill themselves to shoot 3 scenes looking otherworldly jacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 11:45 AM
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Oh sorry I forgot the extensive list of technologies invented by women for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:31 AM
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I get people want to stick it to white supremacist types, and whites are the largest demographic in western countries, but every demographic group is below replacement in the west. Everyone with exception to maybe Hispanics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:30 PM
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Sexual liberalization falls into the same trap as printing excess currency to pay debts. It works and feels good in the short term, but ends up screwing you or worse, someone else, in the long game.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:23 PM
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Are we going to see further decay? Lmao if you live in the USA it’s just starting. It’s going to get much worse. Just wait until the petro dollar and the USD as world reserve die out. Mark my words, when that happens America will be the first country to go from dominants world power to third world. It’s going to be chaotic, and historically embarrassing for the United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:16 PM
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Women truthfully aren’t going to be able to get full context understanding of live as a man, just like men can’t ever fully understand that context for women. The best thing for women to do is be more sympathetic to regular guys plight and not be dismissive. Inb4, men aren’t sympathetic to women. (I think the countless government services, disproportionate research on breast cancer, milestone developments in maternal mortality, access to birth control would disagree.)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:02 PM
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It’s societies responsibility to provide or at least let men create their own exclusive spaces to discuss their lives / issues. This loosely exists on the internet now, at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 03:48 PM
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They don’t kiss lonely mens ass, quite the opposite. They claims xyz group is down because “the system” or “the man” is holding them down, except that suddenly doesn’t apply to lonely young men, especially white and lonely young men. Suddenly their shortcomings are based on merit, but nobody else’s is. Everyone else has someone or something to blame for their shortfalls. Plus I see so much apex fallacy that acts like modern day white people can’t be poor. I know those folks have never been to a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 03:43 PM
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Some evidence that this isn’t a neckbeard central forum just because it’s Reddit ahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 03:28 PM
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America has an abundance of food but the truth is not all of it is good quality food.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 12:22 AM
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Attraction has two parts for both genders besides physical attractiveness. (Imo) To men, a woman with character is important and the women are wonderful effect is very helpful for this. If a man thinks a woman is going to deceive him and waste his time, etc he is less likely to interact with her. To women, a man who behaves a certain way is important and helpful for his chances of attraction. (Confidence and go getter vs quiet and reserved)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 10:20 PM
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Personally, I just have a thing for debating and been a member of Reddit for quite some time. Sometimes I like to just play devils advocate and really examine the reasoning why behind peoples opinions / beliefs even when I agree. As long as there are thought provoking posts and comments, I’ll probably still check in occasionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:18 PM
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I have aspergers so trust me I know 😂 social awkwardness is only one dimension and truthfully, many on the spectrum that can live independent are awkward probably because they aren’t aware they’re even on the spectrum. I used to have lots of depression and anxiety and not understand why until I got diagnosed which actually boosted my self confidence by becoming more mentally in tune with myself. It’s classified mainly by social skills deficit, it just makes socializing harder to learn. But also …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:46 PM
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I think a legitimate philosophical debate could be had whether social media was a true net positive or negative for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:42 PM
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I’m not suggesting women take to the street on mens behalf. I just ask that women stop being dismissive of the average males experience, which is done by painting all mens actions with the apex fallacy. That’d be like me dismissing the existence of sexual assault or rape entirely. It’s disingenuous to the opposite gender, that’s all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:14 PM
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The third world is a different context. In the West, brutal treatment towards women in public is not accepted. Yet they’re still happy to turn sons into corpses to fatten some head of states pockets. As I said, regular guys in the west don’t even have enough power for their own grievances, how are we supposed to fix the international community? As for refugees attacking women in first world countries, you can blame liberal immigration policies for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:41 PM
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How can you compare being complicit with something that’s usually private and between two parties versus something so public as a war? That’s ridiculous, many men would step in or say something if they saw a woman being mistreated publicly, and thankfully most men don’t see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:28 PM
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It’s not womens fault. Now this is an allegory that’s not 100% transferable but I think of it like this. If you have knowledge someone is going to hurt someone seriously and do not try to stop it / report it you can be charged as an accessory. We recognize this in public laws. So women may not be responsible, but if you don’t call out the paradox of the “apex fallacy” (equating the behavior of a small few onto many) you could argue that women are complicit or OK with it at the very least. That’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:19 PM
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The common guy doesn’t have leverage to wield over the men in power. Still nobody gives a shit. If you want to talk generally about a group, (I.e. men) you have to be honest about every angle. It is disingenuous to blame men, as a gender, for war and conflict. What’s a regular guy to do if he gets conscripted / drafted? At best, serve jail time. At worst? Get shot for desertion or run away to the woods in an unknown territory. And for goodness sake, all I was saying is your comment regarding all…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:07 PM
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^ apex fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:04 PM
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It doesn’t benefit women? I think all the men that died in the world wars would disagree. Imagine fighting the first industrial war, ever. Suddenly exposed to fighter jets, tanks, machine gun fire, artillery, and chemical gas attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:03 PM
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Women definitely hold this view cause this Ukraine situation would have been the perfect opportunity to say something and I don’t hear jack shit but the sounds of urban warfare!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:00 PM
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Exactly man. Those guys would come back laughing at the equality bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:58 PM
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Spinsters for the draft! LOL I could make a banner with that slogan.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:57 PM
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Less than 1% of all men involved in the decision making while the other 99% become rotting corpses or mentally scarred. We don’t want to talk about how the guy without power becomes disposable though. It’s just practically expected of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:54 PM
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Building families are the foundations of community, community gives people an altruistic motivation besides saving their own ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:44 PM
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More than peace isn’t guaranteed, for most of history war was expected. War times were frequent, so everyone had the perspective that shit could pop off quick. We have so many armchair geniuses with lack of perspective because many of them don’t realize they’ve lived in the longest peace time in history right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:42 PM
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When social circle concept is kind of dead, and it is for the younger generations because of the digital world, it becomes a lot more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:34 PM
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Autism is not social awkwardness. It’s a developmental disorder of the brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:02 PM
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There’s an effort equity gap that’s only growing. Guys have to have their money, social skills, physique, lifestyle on point. Girls just need to take care of their body and can get attention from the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 12:53 PM
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There’s speculation that all the processed foods we eat in America also make it harder to lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 11:21 PM
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Serious question would you consider yourself an anarchist?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 06:37 PM
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Immigration to the USA has been dropping off a cliff since 2016. Immigration has been holding up the birth rate in the states since the late 90s. Sure it’s not as bad as China, but currently the west faces its own demographic collapse eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 06:08 PM
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Not sure if you’ve heard of social media and OLD, but a girl can be a complete thot in private nowadays. If her friends know she’s a thot they’ll probably cover for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 05:50 PM
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When it comes to common people, governments only care about women for populations sake. With that said, that’s still better than men who government essentially says kick rocks programs wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:32 PM
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Just going to comment “apex fallacy” every time I see it. I see it too much on this sub to even explain it anymore. If you (general statement) don’t know the phenomenon I suggest learning about it. I wish I was exaggerating when I say about half the arguments against mens behavior in general, and in this subreddit is based on apex fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:30 PM
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Feminism - Born: WW2, Died: WW3
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 01:16 PM
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I have a very hard time believing this is still true in the developed world. Child mortality is a fraction of what it used to be even 50-100 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 11:48 AM
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Dating is just a sub point in this community. The broader discussion is about gender and sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 11:43 AM
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When your life is on the line that is a binary situation with little room for nuance. You either survive or not, maybe injury is nuance but eh. The burden of combat is not equivalent to the burden of running society day to day. It is a joke to make those equivalents. So society can either admit that men are more fit for the burden of violence / combat and reward them proportionately for such or shit on those men and be shocked when they don’t even want to defend the homeland for invaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 11:40 AM
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Staunch socialist when times are easy, staunch darwinians the moment shit becomes difficult / real.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 11:36 AM
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Women who have only lived through good times will shit on their men as dogs if allowed. Ya know, the same men who would be the first line of defense when the good times are no more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 11:33 AM
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Ever heard of rights require duties? The opposite is true. Even if “that’s how nature designed it” if you want men to disproportionately bare the burden of sacrificing their life, most are going to ask for extra rights for that extra duty / responsibility. If women don’t like it they can pick up a rifle and keep their opinions to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 11:31 AM
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If she was straight forward with guys in the friend zone, a woman wouldn’t be able to keep that guy in arms length constantly like a utility.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 09:37 AM
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There’s a word for that: Epigenetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 07:21 PM
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What if I told you they’re hooking up with guys in spite of how the guy views their attractiveness. Especially women who might be deemed less attractive, and would see it as mentally validating to have sex with a guy she considers above her in attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 06:20 PM
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Bravo on them for being brave and integral to their values. That’s not to downplay that there were men who were conscripted who would not have fought otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 06:08 PM
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Fair enough. It’s also a fair perspective for those same men to not want to put their life on the line due to their gender / just for the sake of it / because he’s supposed to. I think forcing anyone to fight regardless of gender or and a man just completely domineering over his family are both wrong too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 05:54 PM
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Call it a personalized aspie definition if you will. Patriarchy in essence admits that men have to be ready for self sacrifice, but they get power and responsibility as heads of household for that obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 05:43 PM
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/ thread summed up in two sentences lol. Half the legitimate complaints are that men are still shamed into their gender roles, socially. The problem is we have socially said that shaming women is a problem while still shaming men. The reality is shaming men is a shadow social construct of the past at best today. Men are shamed into their gender roles today, not bound to them. The men that have already realized this are already free from their gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 05:38 PM
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The saddest part is many of those men will die while some of the women just become refugees and assimilate into a new country to never return to the homeland.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 05:25 PM
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Patriarchy is acknowledging men and women are not physically equal, and that the burden of security and defense lies mainly on men.(this burden also implies privileges of leadership, but that’s another discussion) I’m not discussing the existence or abscence of a patriarchy. I’m referring to your earlier comment where you basically said for war, patriarchy (same definition used earlier in this comment) is a better logistical attitude than equality. Aka it’s better for society to assume men that …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 05:11 PM
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So you agree that patriarchy is pragmatic then? Sure it didn’t always benefit women on the front end, but it sure as hell did in the backend if the environment suddenly destabilizes. Prioritizing women and children recognizes what is required for societal stability, population growth. I think that’s the whole point of the thread really. Western ideals would pick being virtuous over pragmatic until it’s life or death situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 04:56 PM
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I say this ad nauseum, apex fallacy, apex fallacy, apex fallacy. Women LIVE for using the apex fallacy lol. All the atrocities men are generally blamed for whether it’s “patriarchy”, “war”, “rape, murders, assaults” are done by a SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE ENTIRE MALE POPULATION. Yet the onus is on the entire gender of men to own up to what a minority of men are actually responsible for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 04:44 PM
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Let’s forget to mention that “reversal” bares way more responsibility on one gender than the other. Yea just a casual “reversal”. And war benefits the LEADING MEN IN CHARGE OF THAT COUNTRY while regular men silently become cannon fodder. Ffs people even want to apply the apex fallacy to men in war.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 04:38 PM
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People have no problem with the biology when shtf and it’s time to put up or shut up. When there’s no threats around its kum-bay-yah time and we are all magically equal again. No, that’s not how it works. The genders are either always equal or they are never equal. Survival works in a binary, either you live or die when situations escalate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 04:31 PM
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Physically demanding jobs should pay more. You risk injury and opportunity costs for future wages if you’re injured extensively. They take more wear and tear on your long term health which also costs money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 04:28 PM
9

So does it have to be the mother who stays behind? Isn’t that patriarchy? Why can’t the fathers stay behind and the women go fight? Aren’t they equally capable to wield a weapon?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 04:26 PM
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Number 9 is by far the most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 11:48 PM
1

I think when he says debt he means consumer debt, aka mass influx of credit. The boomers did create that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:23 PM
1

The thing about demographics is it would take immense central planning to “maintain” a population. Populations tend to either be growing rapidly, or declining rapidly. Demographics are inherently volatile.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 02:19 AM
1

If that’s your only son and only chance at continuing your bloodline, isn’t it technically your problem too?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 04:24 PM
7

That moment when you realize the number of MtF transitions is much higher than the number of FtM transitions….
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:18 AM
3

“Fuck you, got mine” culture is pretty isolating and cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 10:18 AM
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Exactly. Blue pill ideology is the result of an environment safe from externalities like hunger, thirst, shelter, and (for the most part) physical dangers. I’ve always said feminism is an ideology of safe, first world countries. For anybody that disagrees with me, where was the outcry for gender equal conscription in Ukraine? (News flash there was none) I do agree though that being blue pilled can only make sense in a safe context. So it’s a “flex” that you live in a safe environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:59 PM
1

Women can say whatever about “I don’t like a man with bodies either!”. Facts is a man has to be much more attractive to be continually picked for casual sex. For a woman she can personally seek casual sex, thus why it’s not an equal comparison. Both genders have different levels of difficulty getting casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:04 PM
2

Men are more likely to seclude themselves and solely focus on a hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:00 PM
1

And polygamy leaves a bunch of single men left out. Men and womens wants are always going to be at odds. There’s always going to be some element of a zero sum game, at least until we can outsource parts of reproductive biology with technology. (Probably wouldn’t go as well as planned either)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:30 PM
2

Well in the short term. We’ll find out long term if the birth rates keep tanking off a cliff.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 08:23 PM
1

Exactly why we have rampant feminism but MRA would never take off. It’s not in our nature even if society arguably “needs it”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 02:37 PM
1

This comment made me laugh 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 11:04 AM
2

There’s only three scenarios where I’d say it is practical but even then, contingent on other criteria. Both of you already have long term significant others and are happy with them then yes. Subject to change if their relationships change. Childhood friendships that are lifelong before puberty. Economic or business relationships (probably the rarest)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 08:21 PM
1

Not sure if you’ve looked at the recent surveys of young people, but that guy in the middle is disappearing. Among young people, sex is becoming have vs have nots.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 05:15 PM
1

I agree. I am on the side of men treating their sexuality like an itch to be scratched nowadays. The problem is the cultural message men hear / see isn’t that so some of them get caught up in the emotional part.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:59 PM
2

Doesn’t imply reciprocation from the man. Thus, pumps and dumps with the woman left wondering why.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:15 PM
3

Just be a 6 ft 4 famous endomorph bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:12 PM
2

Except that “stable guy” was waiting on the sidelines, he didn’t get to go out and explore himself sexually and have lavish experiences paid for by a sugar daddy, etc. Guys are wising up on the internet, it won’t be a macro level viable strategy to find a “safe guy” in 10-15 years. Those guys will just buy hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 04:03 PM
0

Men need companionship and sexual fulfillment. Heterosexual men are not going to get sexual fulfillment from one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 03:30 PM
5

Metoo made pay for play inevitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:26 AM
1

This perfectly describes the phenomenon of you can either love women deeply or understand them deeply but not both.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:00 PM
1

I wasn’t implying that I’m anti-abortion. I’m very much for it. I still don’t agree that the US is overpopulated. There wouldn’t be a glut of jobs if the US was overpopulated. Also the reality is, populations are either growing at a fair rate or declining. You can’t centrally plan to maintain a population at a certain number without restricting peoples rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 05:00 PM
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Our population is not overpopulated 🤣 we had so many spinsters in the past, there’s not enough young people to do all the work in America. Yet boomers are convinced young people are still living on a 1400 dollar stimulus a year later. LMFAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:30 PM
1

Yea this sounds like lack of sound role models to me. In the states abortion has been legal but there’s still a decent chunk of single moms. Maybe someone older should have stepped in and explained to them the potential long term consequences. 🤷‍♂️ Especially with young guys waking up and refusing to play clean up man. (stepdad)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 04:20 PM
1

Blood. T levels and free test levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 01:07 AM
8

History doesn’t repeat but it often rhymes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 04:35 PM
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You must not be talking about the US. The CDC has stats on children born to unwed mothers. It’s practically 3-4/10 births in every state at this point, that was 2019 too. Sure that’s not most but a damn good sizeable chunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:18 PM
1

But but his daddy owns shiny diamonds!!!! I couldn’t help but send monies!!!
/r/PussyPassDenied07/03/22 09:55 AM
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Hard to say. What I will say is it is much more socially acceptable for women to be sexist to men than vice versa today.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:45 PM
2

Haves vs have nots. Sexual feudalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 04:28 PM
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Women’s cultural and sexual revolution started in the 1960s. You could argue that with the advent of the internet and the gamification of courtship / dating (apps, onlyfans, simping) mens cultural and sexual revolution started in the 2010s when social media and dating apps came around or the 2020s with the pandemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:48 PM
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Yea now imagine having T levels 30-50x of a widowed older woman who craves intimacy / sex and people tell you sex isn’t a need. (Most men)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:58 PM
1

Plenty of men in Hollywood have pointed out the ridiculous workouts and strenuous diets to achieve movie bodies. Use of gear and diuretics, and going 1-2 days without water is not unheard of. Entertainment won’t tell you about guys complaining about how unhealthy they have to be lifestyle wise to look crazy ripped for the scene. Hollywood wants everyone to thing men looking like gear heads is attainable / normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 09:56 AM
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Madonna-whore complex might be more common, I’ll oblige that. However, there’s still an analogous connection between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 08:14 PM
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True. I suppose it could apply to both because there exists a contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:45 PM
0

Women’s equivalent Madonna-whore complex is being attracted to Hybristophilia.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 07:40 PM
1

USA demographics pyramid has been inverting since the late 90s. There’s literally a drought of enough women for young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 10:14 PM
1

Honest answer? It’s a real feeling, not a real concept. The entire process is just a means to an end not only to reproduce but have the best offspring you can. The only “love” that is technically real is unconditional love.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 05:25 PM
2

Unless you already have mutual friends already and the friends / family set you up, this advice will probably just land you on the friend zone as an average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 05:23 PM
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“The women who fled Ukraine are the real victims of war. The conscripted men are NPCs.” - Hillary Clinton probably
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:52 PM
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On the dote of Ukraine only conscripting 18-60 year old men, and saying women had to go with their children and etc. By that logic, single women ages 18-60 have no other obligation holding them back from also grabbing a rifle and jumping to defend the country. Yet crickets about conscripting single women without kids aged 18-60.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:53 PM
1

So basically sexual liberalization makes people extremely individualistic, selfish, and more unwilling to cooperate communally. Thus a civilization more cooperative and less selfish would in theory steam roll the selfish society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:38 PM
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All the zoomer tik tok dancers will save the USA when it spirals into collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:20 PM
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This situation is different. It’s the first real major conflict since the sexual revolution and ya know, all this spouted nonsense about men and women being equal. As the TRP community says, all that fluff bullshit goes out the window the second things get real or life or death scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:09 PM
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Something something western liberal women, “bUt WhY iS fEmAle PrOmiSCuiTY bAd???!!!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 02:07 PM
1

Same here. I’m a young American guy who despite putting in effort has little skin in the game known as society. My body, my choice to not be a meat jockey for geo-political purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 01:48 PM
1

America played itself chasing short term dollar signs at the expense of long term national security. The dominos started with Nixon opening the US economy to pos communist China back in the early 1970s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 12:55 PM
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We live in the post modern world. Why is not every 18-60 year old he/she/it/they not conscripted unless they have small children? It’s not the stone ages anymore, anyone can fight with a firearm. It’s called the great equalizer for fucks sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 12:46 PM
1

Feminist here’s your opportunity to show men ain’t sh!t and that women are better at everything!!!!! Reeeee!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 12:40 PM
1

Putin is an ignorant old white boomer that gives white people a bad rep and makes these sjws complain about “WhiTe MeN & pAtriArchy!” following the apex fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 12:38 PM
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Feminism is nothing more than a secular religion. They did the same exact shit the Christian church did when I was a kid. Cherry pick the parts of their dogma that fits them, ignore all other realistic questions / objections to such.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 12:36 PM
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The (usually) vehemently loud American feminist have yet to comment on Ukraine conscripting all men ages 18-60 and how it’s not equal to only force men to stay in the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 12:14 AM
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No they buy mansions, sports cars, Oceanside apartments, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 08:41 PM
2

Hypo and hyper capitalism one could say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 03:06 PM
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As a younger guy, luxury spending from men does make me ponder motivations a lot. Meaning that I am sure many guys buy luxury goods not just for personal want or desire, but perceptions of wealth or resource abundance (flexing) to seem high status or get women. That’s what I’m saying is if men channeled that sexual energy into not spending money and treating it like an itch to be scratched occasionally, I don’t think many guys would buy frivolous luxury goods.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 02:55 PM
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Nowadays (saying this as a Zoomer guy who has a decent notch count) for both genders it is true but more so for young men, sex is becoming a have vs have nots situation. Winner takes all the spoils type of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:46 PM
1

Some parts of attraction are subjective, some parts are objective. This is due to ecology of specific environments. Some traits will thrive in any environment, and thus are objectively or highly universally attractive. Some traits will be more evolutionarily beneficial based on environmental factors. For example, in Africa, bigger noses are more attractive not due to aesthetics, but because they are more adaptive. Having a larger nose in that hot environment allows you to draw more oxygen for ke…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:39 PM
1

Reeee! I had my fun how dare you have yours!!!!! Reeeeee!!!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/02/22 01:18 PM
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It shouldn’t take a draft. If they want equality, they’ll walk the walk and do what is required to meet the standard of equality. Rights always have responsibilities. Which I am impressed to the degree women have taken up arms on their own in Ukraine, however, 95%+ of those I saw in line to get weapons were shockingly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:14 PM
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I believe in women’s choice to be a home maker or have a career. I support them having irrational beliefs about gender equality as long as they’re willing to accept the good and bad that comes with equality. Standing up to defend your homeland is one of the bad parts of equality. And seriously, “participating in wars they didn’t start”? You think the young men born into a democratic Ukraine want to fight? No, but they’re fucking forced by law.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:11 PM
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You must have never heard of Eastern Europe. They made it mandatory for MEN ONLY to take up arms and stay in the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 01:01 PM
0

Maslows hierarchy of needs is why.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 12:52 PM
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Because the truth is male sexuality is a mechanism society uses to get men to work in excess of their material needs so that they’ll spend resources chasing and courting women. There should be no shame in men owning sex toys. It’s diverting that urge that society took for granted, which is that men will spend some resources pursuing women since men aren’t as big consumers as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 12:27 PM
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Maybe not every woman is having as much sex as they like or with the caliber of men they like, but they can almost always successfully initiate. Men are usually hornier but have to take getting sex simply when an opportunity presents itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:50 AM
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You shouldn’t. And those in charge know anthropologically, societies crumble when the working men no longer give a shit / have no reason to give a shit / burn the village to watch it burn. I find it ironic how all the gender toxicity started in the 1970s when elites started hammering on about overpopulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 05:24 PM
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A is already happening on a macro scale in the USA. B is the reason “pills” ideology is censored online based on conceptions alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 04:50 PM
1

The problem is the awareness to the existential that a conversation brings. An epiphany of effort from average men were to come about it would have dramatic existential consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 04:44 PM
3

Just wait until the population bust hits government social programs…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:12 PM
4

This is kind like a long winded way of describing R versus K mating selection, which is heavily influenced by the ecological environment an organism lives / grows up in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:21 PM
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Wishing for gender equality of opportunity in employment is not a problem. Wishing to be hypergamous and date up socioeconomically as a woman? No problem. Wanting both to exist at the same time? Now you’ve lost you’re mind. This is also where our culture currently stands. Also governments trying to influence demographics is laughable at best, even in extremely communist / centralized countries. China would have just been better off never having any demographic policies. (one child policy)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:06 PM
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Trust me ok demographics you are preaching to the choir. I spend half my free time studying economics and demographics. Demographic decline is a very bad underbelly problem for America because it’s been happening since 1971, meaning the time to correct or fix it has long since passed and the phenomenon is just recently being discussed in the last 2-3 years. The time to do something about it was friggin 1990 lmao. I’m also aware that lower birth rates per woman actually lead to more men being bor…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:59 PM
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People don’t like the honest answer. It’s called demographic inversion / collapse. The economics is less goods / services available and less ability to produce at economies of scale, thus the cost of everything jumps also.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:55 AM
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Women cannot conceptualize anything beyond the apex fallacy with men. (Warped view that all men live a prestigious life, lol) The reality is women bitch and moan about oppression but up until about 1900 if you weren’t rich, you’d be “oppressed” by those same standards as a man or a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 10:54 AM
1

What else do you come to PPD if not for the cognitive dissonance?!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 10:52 AM
1

Here to leave the trope comment about how this comment is describing the movie idiocracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 11:26 AM
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Simping and hypergamy are both becoming mal-adaptive traits in this dating environment. Simping and hypergamy were both means to an end to give offspring a better reproductive chance but western countries aren’t even replacing the populations they have currently so it’s a bit of a bust.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 11:23 AM
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Male libido is optimal for nature but not a structured society so I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:47 PM
1

Me when as a white male I don’t get invited to the “white men who dominate everything and run the world meetings” but still get blamed for what old, white globalist men / ancestors did
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:11 PM
1

This is the point we as TRPs are constantly making about “AWALT”. We are not just ignorants, we understand women are still individuals with differing motivations. AWALT refers to CAPABILITY based on the social environment, laws, tech, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:08 PM
1

The threat of harm or violence is always going to be possible even if it doesn’t happen. In terms of safety of dating, OLD makes it as safe as possible for women IMO which I am glad for women in that aspect, even though OLD is beyond god awful as a young guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:05 PM
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Exactly. In social conversation it is easy to reduce men to “horndogs”. The reality is if men weren’t horndogs nobody would be here today. Sure it’s not an optimal libido for civilization but it still serve an undiscussed function for humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:58 PM
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It’s not an excuse / argument. Muscle is much more dense and heavy than fat, that’s not for debate. This is the undiscussed issue with bmi is it does not consider body composition. Arnold Schwarzenegger was 6 ft 2 and 280 for Mr Olympia but probably about 4-5% bodyfat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 01:13 PM
1

This comment somehow sounds bluepill, redpill, and blackpill morphed together.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:25 PM
7

No some women definitely pay taxes. Women as a gender, however, use more in net taxes than are deducted from their labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 04:09 PM
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Literally the only answer besides bureaucratic system overhaul (which won’t happen because big government falls into the Thucydides trap) is a collapse that allows system re-haul / over-haul. Also ref: Thucydides trap is a phenomenon where a powerful group / tribe / whatever has to spend exorbitant resources to maintain power, which collapses when it becomes more resource intensive than it can handle.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:26 PM
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Relationships worth having are like anything in life, if it’s really worth it there’s going to be some effort required. This attitude of jumping ship and on to swiping the next person at the first bad moment is half the reason dating is in such a shite situation in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:18 PM
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Except for the part where mens net taxes pay for the security, infrastructure, and social welfare state (un-natural externalities) that allows briffaults law to blossom and terrible attitudes (don’t need no man! A man is a luxury!) to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:02 PM
1

In more basic terms, climate change is drastically shifting raw material availability / sourcing. Raw materials being inputs of the supply chains, this leads to the drastic supply chain issues seen globally because it’s a resource issue mainly, but also a demographic labor issue at least in western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:00 PM
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I don’t think men and women are really built to constantly just socialize with the opposite sex. This is why all male and all female spaces existed. I believe this separation made people more vigilant to date and oriented each sex to be more likely to date. Nowadays courtship is not always first priority when we go to interact with someone of the opposite sex and thus it’s priority / significance has also culturally declined as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 01:38 PM
1

Alright all you need to Google is “demographic pyramid inversion” and you’ll learn all you need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 04:56 PM
2

Awalt refers to capability and possibility, not probability. The issue is men being conditioned to think women are all purist / angels by default. (girls are made of sugar and spice and everything nice, tropes) AWALT just means even the innocent looking girl at the book store could be finessing simps on onlyfans, or secretly be an escort, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:25 PM
1

It stays the same as long as the population grows positively in terms of numbers. Not sure if you’re aware but basically most of the west is dying demographically. That’s the problem is the phenomenon bottoms out if the next generation does not produce a surplus of available women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:18 PM
1

Yea! Men should just get off OLD and go with the tons of suitors always available to them! Oh that’s right most guys have 0 passive options. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 12:04 PM
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Women really are fine with rugged capitalism dating for men but want a socialized utopia of dating for women. Yet somehow those two concepts are supposed to come together to put people in relationships. (lmao only an idiot would actually think so)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:21 AM
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The false perception of endless choices for most folks that is unrealistic is very bad. Also OLD works horribly for most of the population but just the fact it exist and is so easily accessible means it still acts as a market force and affects individual perceptions of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:00 PM
10

A religion without a god is simply a cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:36 AM
3

You understand a simple concept I wish even half this sub could understand. If you live in a community / society, nobody I mean nobody lives in a vacuum / bubble unless you’re a shut in. “Why should I care about male problems they don’t effect me?” Yet, they don’t yet. That’s all I have to say on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 12:23 PM
2

Yes being tall and strong is more about intra-sex competition but would also have been very good traits to have before the industrial revolution before we had machines to do all the heavy lifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 02:04 AM
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Simp shunning. Sounds like a stellar title for my next novel.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:02 AM
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I do not disagree at all with the title of the threat BUT unfortunately I am a nihilist and also a pragmatist. Why does simping seem like such a dumb idea rationally, dudes roast each other for it, yet guys still do it? May I introduce game theory and the prisoners dilemma. TLDR of the prisoners dilemma is that the best outcome is to think long term and cooperate (in this case, men banding together to socially eliminate simping as a conception). However, in the short term, the “optimal” outcome …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:01 AM
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Bingo. Female game is inherently Machiavellian. It relies highly on a positive perception of the person running game to keep the rouse up. Look it up, Machiavellians care a lot about how they are perceived by others because the positive perception is critical to keeping the rouse of the game (women are sugar and spice and sweet angels. Meanwhile, they’re becoming more like men in the modern age). I’m not hating, nature designed women to be capable of hurting any man in any way possible without f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:09 AM
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FDS is a perfect example of female solipsism. My way or the Highway even though there’s a little thing called other women and competition. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:01 AM
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You got the nail on the head. Many women on a micro (aka personal) level all chase the top guys, all this chasing gives those guys exorbitant options at the macro (community) level then you hear complaining about their behavior or lack of commitment. Well women don’t realize that that personal choice to only Chad chase played out on a large scale destroys the market for everybody and we all end up miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:55 AM
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If women didnt condone hookup culture would end because all things said it’s women who give consent to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:28 AM
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This is completely tone deaf to the younger Gens. (Zoomers and Gen Alpha) If you don’t have a presence online, you might as well not exist in the Instagram generation. Also for these same age groups, wealth and demographics are consolidating in (coastal) cities, meaning many young men live in something akin to suburban blight. Few opportunities and social connections in the area they live and less opportunities for dynamism. The practical advice for younger men that want to really date is get a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:03 PM
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Sure you’ll never own your private dwelling but you get deflation on your groovy Nintendo Switch!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 11:24 AM
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You can argue that all is fair in love and war. You can also argue sex is a biological urge and need that most humans crave outside of their control. The two facts aren’t mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:58 PM
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You say that until you get in the position that a woman is leading you on knowingly…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:52 PM
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There are entire dating apps catered at individual racial / ethnic groups
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 05:56 PM
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Cheating is not good for society. STDs are a biological limitation factor against promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:36 PM
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Gender ratios don’t even consider quality of single persons though. So the picture could be even worse than the math implies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 06:49 PM
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Wouldn’t alter AF/BB myself. I’d just say that if women want to chase guys who are wild / adventurous / exciting / dangerous, that they fully understand what they are potentially getting into / how it could end. Also don’t be surprised when men try to adapt accordingly. (For example TRP, which basically tries to reach every guy how to be the AF side)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 03:54 PM
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To me the 40 year old virgin is a commentary and comedy about the paradox of courtship and dating in the west. That being that it isn’t hardly discussed, everyone is supposed to just get it on their own yet if they don’t they are a laughing stock of the community.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 12:00 PM
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My only take on it is if you and another person are willing to do it, then at least one of you will need to be willing to leave that job. So basically 9/10 times it’s a bad idea even with that mindset. Also big risking the relationship over the job too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/21 12:49 AM
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Redpillers definitely are not traditional conservatives. We can act like redpillers reminisce about the 50s glory days but the reality is redpill encourages some degeneracy too. The closest ideology for redpill would be libertarianism because it’s reductionist and very merit based.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:17 PM
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They mean stay away from a lot of the redpill you tubers, a vast majority of whom are grifters who sell bogus programs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 12:41 PM
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Maybe I should clarify. Asset prices have inflated dramatically in my lifetime alone. Stocks, housing, etc. Sure the overall economy has grown but real wages have been flat for such a long time at this point. Plus the US government has been printing money hand over fist literally my entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 03:42 PM
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(In the states at least) I think a lot of it falls back on economic inflation / stagnation. I’m in my 20s and the older I get the more I realize that the economy has basically been a growing speculative bubble since I was born.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 02:55 PM
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It would be nice if it was exactly that straight forward. Many of the trades that aren’t physically taxing are not having any problem recruiting new young talent. It’s the very physically demanding ones like carpentry that can’t seem to get new young workers. So imagine those trades get flooded, you’ve got people having to work competitive rates while destroying themselves physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 02:29 PM
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Too many RP grifters (key word) literally go full circle advocating for continual self improvement… to eventually become the beta bux you dreaded in the first place? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 03:19 PM
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/thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 02:40 PM
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So my only question is where will this massive aggregate of millionaire men come from to be 1:1 with every woman graduating with a degree? Especially when colleges are essentially 60:40 nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:27 PM
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While I do agree that dating tends to be a numbers game for men, PUA style advice of doing approach after approach ad infinitum, leads to some women feeling overwhelmed by constant approaches. One PUA in London even got arrested for harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 04:19 PM
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There’s literally already a trope for this, “opposites attract”. I also think this post is beyond redundant. Why do you give a damn if other couples want to be “basic” or follow a certain pattern? If it bothers you that much, go get the Amber Rose cut and find a Tarzan lookalike.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:26 PM
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That sounds like being selfish to me. You’re leading the girl on, just like many girls like to lead guys on for attention except you’re doing it to get “experience”. It’s disrespectful to the other persons time and emotions. (if they get really attached)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 02:19 PM
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Assuming I approached, I’d just ask for the effort to be acknowledge and respected followed by a polite decline. When a girl acts like a bitch for me approaching, it makes me wish I never had in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 11:29 PM
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My bad I thought this was a different thread 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 11:27 PM
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Poor soul is going to leave the thread more confused than when they posted it 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 09:20 PM
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FDS would just say send them to war problem solved lmao. Men are truly disposable in all facets.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 01:35 PM
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There won’t be older women available either. That’s how demographic collapse works.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 01:30 PM
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Yea most men, especially young men, can live off a surprisingly small amount of money. It will be a wake up call for the overall economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 01:22 PM
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I’m sorry what? I just gave you an equivalent of both genders general disposition / preferences that are biologically rooted. I never implied that women should feel obligated to go against an element of attraction that is subconscious or subliminal. It literally would not matter because of this demographic phenomenon anyway. There will be young men in Gen alpha with no access to equal age or younger partners at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:24 AM
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Men don’t want to date older in the same respect women don’t want to date men they see as “beneath them” Also Gen X is the next generation following boomers. We’re talking 10-15 year age gaps more likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:16 AM
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There wouldn’t be an issue if baby boomers didn’t divorce their wives and remarry (sometimes twice) in Gen X’s dating pool. This causes a forced chokehold type effect forcing the generations of men after them to also date younger until you have Gen Alpha young guys who won’t have a big enough pool to do the same, some of which will be SOL. It’s MLM pyramid scheme setup, it works until it doesn’t and then self collapses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:06 AM
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Society loves to ignore how much of an incentive family is in a mans job choices / economic output. If you don’t have a family to care for or debts to service, why would you work overtime and etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 01:16 AM
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Yea the returns become marginal after a certain height. Plus once you start getting over a certain height it just becomes inconvenient. I’m only like 6 ft 1 and hated flying on a plane because of how tiny it felt.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 02:02 PM
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This. Part of the wound is self inflicted by men as an aggregate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 11:28 PM
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I’m on the spectrum myself and I’d be genuinely curious if those guys with ASD were just more brutally honest and feel less pressure to be shown as constantly sexually successful.
/r/BlackPillScience18/10/21 03:23 AM
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The age gap of relationships is increasing and older men that have been divorced dip into the next generations dating pool. So the surplus of un-partnered men are younger men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:45 PM
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We just need all male spaces again. Sure there would be an increased level of comradare for boys if there was conscription, but that’s not going to instill lifelong habits of exercise (look at how shoving reading down kids throats makes them hate it) Men need all male spaces so they can discuss the things unique to their lived experience as a man, just as women do / have their spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 05:48 PM
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I don’t believe conscription would give men the drive to keep physically fit. Kids are learning so much useless garbage in school right now. (For boys at least) There should be greater focus on physical activities and survival / life skills (gardening, hunting, fishing, doing taxes) for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 04:30 PM
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Access to opportunity in capitalism will determine if it hurts dating or not. You can have a capitalist society that (believe it or not) prioritizes social and family structures equally or above profits. If society is centered around the bottom line entirely, then overall relationships will suffer. Also not to be really controversial but there are studies that correlate men’s economic earning ability and fertility rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 09:48 PM
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Economics = the study of choices. Everything in life is about choices and trade offs of time, bestie.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:22 PM
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A transaction doesn’t imply that people are objects, it’s called an exchange. Is adopting a child objectifying the child? No, but there’s a cost. There’s a magical field of study about interactions, transactions and choices and it’s not called black magic witchcraft, it’s called economics. But please tell me again how trying to explain an analogy somehow represents a personal problem. You miss the point entirely. A man feels disrespected when a woman makes him invest more time and resources for …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 07:04 PM
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It’s not a problem if she puts in more effort with sex with a guy who has to wait, but is usually the opposite. This is like asking why charging two different people different prices for the same double cheeseburger is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:00 PM
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It’s still altruistic and not selfish. You have confused competition and cooperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 04:54 AM
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This is false. Look into “life history strategies” and “R versus K selection”. Men had to cooperate and form tribes in harsh conditions or risk death of themselves and their offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 04:07 AM
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The content was gaining steam, but quarantine combined with the only dating prospects being online (I need not say how bad it can be for certain groups, that’s like a broken record on the sub) did have it gain traction. Now that’s led to tons of grifters coming along seeing a quick buck to be mad regurgitating content. This all together has created the “Streisand Effect” for TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:03 PM
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There’s lots of bitching about men being entitled to sex from women, and thus women aren’t entitled to male attention. The former is told not to complain about it while the latter is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 06:46 PM
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Is that a fancy way of saying monogamy would become more popular again? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 01:45 PM
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First of all, women all loving older men is 🧢. The women that are attracted to older men are probably more attracted to the stability and finances / lifestyle they can provide. Still doesn’t mean they wouldn’t get it on with a frat boy her own age in private. “BuT MeN aGe lIkE FInE WiNe” Most of them really don’t, ironically, except those considered “chad” usually age most gracefully. I’m RP and while men may age slightly slower because men come to maturity in their teens slightly behind girls, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 01:28 PM
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The tipping point is why you have phenomenon like herbivore men, mgtow, etc. Guys who just feel the cost / benefit analysis for self improving is too high for the caliber of women they can get in a very hypergamous age.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 08:58 PM
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The onus would be on women to make that change since they have the power and leverage in OLD. Why would they change the fact that they can date / have casual relations anonymously, get male attention at home, while also having no worries about physical safety? For women it’s an equivalent wet dream of all the pros without the cons for “vetting” (say that loosely, there is no true, full vetting online). The incentive structure is strong. Apps have been banned in many countries (general apps but a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:32 PM
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Exactly. Men being hyper-competitive for women is not good socially because our society has relied on male cooperation for thousands of years to advance. The change is profound and highly underrated IMO, and also becoming much more pronounced for the younger generations. (I’m an older “Zoomer” myself and I see it)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:05 PM
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Yes we are designed to efficiently fast track better genes for the gene pool. Men’s competitive nature or lack thereof could be argued for causing a disparity gap of success among men (some super successful, others no success) I’d argue that men’s competitive drive leads to hyper-competition and that causes the rift, because some guys know they just can’t be asked to go to that extreme. Further more, those men willing to compete in a hyper competitive environment will produce offspring with comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 06:08 PM
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“Women are born, men are made.” Scientifically, I believe this refers to an idea that “Epigenetics” are much much more important for men. Epigenetics being lifestyle choices activating your better genes. You could have great muscle insertion genetics but be a fatass and have no luck. Men are expected to live up to full genetic potential. Women have more leniency for bodyfat, genetic flaws, higher social acceptance of things like makeup and plastic surgery. Western diets are also practically an e…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:22 PM
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The men who did sexually succeed and reproduce all had more than one child, while the rest had 0 and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:11 AM
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Don’t change it. In a lefty and it’s one of the only things catered to us in this god forsaken world. I’m looking at you refrigerator and scissor manufacturers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:18 PM
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Why does the nerdy guy look just like Kevin Samuels in the bottom one? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:45 PM
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Men are extremely sexual creates is screamed by women like harpies. Yet they can’t understand the underlying context of being “husband material” means that guy having to invest way more time and resources for sex than the hot guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:40 PM
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I think I lost a brain cell reading this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:01 PM
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Name checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:53 PM
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End of thread. The genie is out of the bottle. The cat is out of the bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:47 PM
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Anti-social, self-hating, androgynous asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:45 PM
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Haven’t you seen the movie? It’s essentially anything goes for a select period of time. Except Reddit’s site wide rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:30 PM
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Agreed. He looks very generic and wouldn’t even stand out to me as a dude if I saw him on the street. Most door frames are standard 6 feet, 8 inches tall so if that’s the case there he does look pretty tall. (Around 6 ft 3 or 6 ft 4)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:52 PM
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You have a half-point with how both are kind of different points but similar sentiments for each gender, but not as extreme as you think, imo. Really you’re just arguing that the opportunity to access sex for men should be a right. So basically it sounds like you’re arguing for legalization of prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:47 PM
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Our government can’t hardly set an example and pay its own debts so I don’t expect much better from the general public.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:41 PM
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A nice head of hair makes for a great hand grab.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:01 PM
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Western diets in modern day are also shit and full of sugar and processed carbohydrates. Insulin resistance is also believed to make it harder to lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:58 PM
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Astrology and horoscopes probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:17 PM
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It’s a logical response when you can be passive in dating and still have multiple options. Men would have the same temperament if their sex drive was lower and they could have passive options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:56 PM
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Literally the west just needs regulated and fair priced prostitution and half the social problems between men and women would fix themselves, while also generating the government tax revenue but nooo we love to keep it complicated in the states.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:43 PM
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That’s what they make self defense products for. Yes it’s messed up but there’s no male equivalent of an aphrodisiac that automatically gets a man the woman he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:42 PM
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Bingo. Women complain about womanizers, deadbeat fathers, fuckboys but never reflect on the fact that women have to enable that behavior because they hold the power to a man sleeping with them. Literally otherwise it’s rape by law yet that fact seems to never be discussed or admitted in conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:40 PM
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She wrote a book about the whole thing too if you are interested in the entirety of the story.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:16 PM
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Yea the bluff has been called. I’m not one to judge but this 3rd and 4th wave stuff just looks like pushing female supremacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:58 PM
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Dude blackpill is not about giving up. It’s realizing technology and broader culture is promoting hypergamy on steroids, and male sexual disposability is real. (one man can father many kids) Harems have existed before and can return. No blackpill is not completely about defeatism but it is about determinism. The blackpill is about recognizing how far your deficits will be in dating and doing a personal cost benefit analysis on time invested into self improvement. Not all blackpillers are depress…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:50 PM
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Yea being gaslight warrants that type of feeling sometimes. Especially when it feels like a life-long type of thing. That’s all “red-pill rage” is about is feeling gaslit into bluepill from birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:41 PM
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I have a kink for calling out people’s bullshit. Just so happens on that forum the bullshit usually comes from some extremist female.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:45 AM
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Still waiting for the legitimate criticism of my straight forward analysis instead of some petty bullshit. By the way if you really want to leave the planet there’s some genius men going to make it possible for you. You’d probably take advantage and still talk shit about them afterwards. Abortion is useful after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:30 AM
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It’s called being male. 20% is higher BMI for men and mid range for women. Natures a bitch but modern diets are also shit, specifically for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:19 AM
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Says the woman who can’t even be logically consistent. Talks shit about men wanting female genocide but casually suggesting the male equivalent. Keep doubling down on the delusion, you do the work of discrediting yourself for all to see 👍🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:17 AM
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I’ve had a biological theory about why white skin is generally seen as attractive by more of an aggregate. Vitamins D is very important for tons of bodily functions. Well it so happens, the lighter your skin tone, the more vitamin D your skin can convert from sunlight exposure. Sure it leads to burns but that’s the process to convert and produce more vitamin D by the body. Just my thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:56 AM
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The irony that ER has a “fragile ego” and wanted to commit female genocide, and a woman critiquing him literally suggest doing the same thing to men. Oh the un-irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:54 AM
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Genetics is responsible for the fat deposits on your hips. I’d say go caloric deficit to shred to low bodyfat, then build your shoulders, traps, and laterals for a better taper shape. Good luck man it’s a journey not a sprint.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:47 AM
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We have enough of those to host a fucking hunger games.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:44 AM
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I can’t answer that because I’m not a boomer. I think we will get past this affirmative action bullshit for opportunity because it will just be fluff bureaucracy and a mute point by then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:41 AM
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The boomer men who still financially control the world are the ones supplicating more opportunities to women in employment now and I can’t wait till they all croak. Boomer men were the first soft generation of modern men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:36 AM
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Either this or men say “fuck this shit” in doing manual labor type jobs that men only did in the past for family provisioning. Have fun being your own carpenter feminist or paying 500 for labor because hardly any men have an incentive to do it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:33 AM
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If there was no men, women WOULD be living in huts having to defend themselves from tigers, bears, lions, cheetahs, or ya know the countless animals that would no question be human predators in a natural setting from their strength and speed comparatively. Check out the matriarchies in Africa lol. Women have wielded sex well I’ll admit but you guys are really milking it till it’s sour and young guys are taking notice. Why do you think redpill type philosophy is exploding?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:29 AM
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Just have 5 racks for a hair transplant bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 09:19 AM
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Don’t worry I didn’t watch them for very long
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:20 AM
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Ermm but a man whore can only be enabled by the women that consent to sleeping with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:33 AM
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Entitlement and delusion on her part.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 02:31 AM
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I was making a joke that if you’re illiterate you’d enjoy her posts. Don’t overthink it too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:37 AM
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Can’t withhold something nobody wants in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:30 AM
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FDS motivational quote *
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:28 AM
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Micro-wineries for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:23 AM
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If you’re illiterate maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:19 AM
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I did once but I almost drowned from the sheer volume of vaginal fluids.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:15 AM
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Norah Vincent “self-made man” documentary. Free on the YouTubes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:13 AM
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Sigma-male-grindset
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:10 AM
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Just find a local massage parlor and you’ll be alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:06 AM
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Looks like some quality wall art for the living room.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:01 AM
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Can confirm every time I finished my third bench press set at the gym Stacy can’t seem to stop harassing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:56 AM
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Yea time to shame women for gate-keeping seks. Bonobo culture for the win!!! Finally the free love movement won’t be a crock of sh!t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:55 AM
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Wow tranny-maxing looking real effective for the gays nowadays. (We don’t judge, we live in a progressive society!!!!!!!)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:47 AM
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Her posts are like the subs steaming piles of shit. Left up because nobody wants to clean it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:44 AM
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What are you taking about? It’s either chicken wings and fries (shout-out Future) or the 4 for 4 at Wendy’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:33 AM
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How can we limit the only kind of posts that get enough controversy / engagement of the whole sub???
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:27 AM
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If I had to put it in a hierarchy of cringe: F-boy island Bachelor / bachelorette Too Hot to Handle
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:24 AM
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Their personality radars just weren’t working properly that day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:23 AM
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Men are the only gender shamed anymore. Men are damned if they do, damned if they don’t in the modern paradigm.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:21 AM
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PPD slowly turning into the Violet pill. Love to see it. Hope the blackpill takes over the world!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:08 AM
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Reminds me of the lady who essentially cosplayed / gender bended as a man for a few months and had to be institutionalized from the lack of socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:01 AM
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How can we not mention the clusterfuck that was F-boy island? I cringed watching that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:00 AM
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You, just like half the people on this sub, interpret comments how you want and run with it. Apex fallacy = extreme example fallacy. Here’s an equivalent. “There’s a thunder storm today. There’s a .001% chance of me being struck by lightning, so I’ll just sit in the corner of my bedroom.” Unlike you I would never assume someone’s stance based on my personal interpretation. Believe it or not all I was saying is that your comment implied if there’s any chance of a bad outcome, minute or not, nobod…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 12:42 PM
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Far from it. Context is pretty important.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:34 AM
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Take my upvote damnit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:29 AM
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Perceive it how you want. There’s a stark difference between a dark joke and making a joke of a serious event like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:28 AM
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So for calling out a statement about hitler that somehow implies support? It’s called calling out an extreme example. It’s like saying nobody should fly again because 9/11 happened once. I hate hitler, but I hate the idea of living in a safety bubble because extreme situations also.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 04:03 AM
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I read exactly what you said. You’re asking for balance between both extremes, virtue if you will. So with no real way to determine body count how do you find this? Evaluating how they do in bed or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 03:55 AM
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I don’t think it’s funny to joke about genocide in any capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 03:48 AM
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Ah yes, apex fallacy. One woman birthed hitler so we should all just not have a family, just because of the chance we create one or two shitty new people. Come on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 10:03 PM
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You’ve described the bare minimum for many men to even be considered by some women…. 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:36 PM
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The difference is men aren’t hung up on getting the best they can unless they have a plethora of options. (Negligibly rare) Most men don’t feel like they are “settling”.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 06:07 PM
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This is incorrect not because of bad analysis but because it does not seem like you fully understand the layers to this phrase. You don’t ask a woman for dating advice because they can take a passive role in dating and be successful. (most of the time) Men have a burden of performance to take an active role in dating. It’s not a matter of perspective, it’s a matter of formalities, behaviors, and explanations expected of men in courtship that just aren’t expected by women (or if they are it is us…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 03:44 PM
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Yes destruction of fertility rates will end up benefitting the first generation that experiences the sharp decline in size comparative to the last. (This will be Gen Alpha, there will be less of them than zoomers in terms of pure numbers / demographics.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 09:17 AM
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N-count is not a detriment to men. If that was the case then there would not be be women who are turned off by a guy being a virgin. The truth is there’s no way of actually knowing if someone lies about body count, either gender. So how does one actually find a balance between male virgin and man-whore?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 09:04 AM
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🤣 “just spend thousands and with no guarantee of success, bro!” Respectfully, crock of shit. This is why prostitution should have been legalized federally in the states. Men need at least one sort of straight forward option for getting laid. In the past that was getting married at 18-20 years old. Well that shit might as well be dead because it’s now the exception, not the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 08:54 AM
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I think overall below average men lose out the worst but slightly above average guys get the worst deal comparatively. I, like you, consider myself in the 6-7 range and I work on myself religiously with exercise and diet, etc. Don’t get me wrong I’ve had my success with short term with women but many below average women think they have a chance with me and yea it actually does upset me. Like sorry sweetie, I don’t lift 10 hours a week while you just put on some makeup and think we’re equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 08:42 AM
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I have to say it’s learned just because if it was instinctual, we would not have abusive or neglectful parents. Unconditional treatment of children is a (rightful and logic) expectation of broader society but yet people still do some fucked up things to their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 08:49 AM
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This. Many men lose most of any leverage they have once they fully commit to a woman. As the commenter below me says, it is common for men to create their own private dwelling spaces in their homes whether that is a “man cave” or an outdoor shed or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 08:39 AM
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Hear me out…. maybe it just maybe has to do with gasp hormones. Testosterone is called the sex hormone for a very very good reason. Testosterone not only makes sex driver higher, it makes someone more visually sexually stimulated. Straight men react to pictures of naked women / women wearing little clothing the same way gay men react to pictures of naked men / men wearing little clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 01:39 PM
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There’s also the implied context that women can be passive in dating and still have suitors. So logically if her friend has to proactively find guys for her to date, given the context of passivity it’s a bad sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:53 AM
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No he’s saying that stable men invest more in their kids and do that by working more hours, thus being more productive to the overall economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:48 AM
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Just go to the bar bro! I have a few problems with this. One, personally, alcohol has destroyed my family on both my mother and fathers side so drinking has a negative stigma attached for me personally. Two,Gen-Zers (zoomers) are incredibly less social than previous generations because of growing up with tech. As a young guy you can go out and approach girls but they have so many options, rejection is literally a game to zoomer girls. You’re lucky if they politely diss you off, more than likely …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 07:02 PM
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The status alone is enough to explain the phenomenon. Status does all the pre-selecting work (aka women talking about the attractiveness of a guy amongst themselves) Attraction is not just about which individuals have the highest hormone levels. Too high of estrogen or testosterone in an individual has negative effects and perceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 12:47 PM
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I agree that there is a direct parallel between “AF/BB” and “Hoe/Housewife” concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:48 PM
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As a young guy it’s just hard to trust this sentiment anymore without wondering if that same woman didn’t wait to have sex with another guy. That’s like watching one person buy a movie ticket for 5 dollars but when you get to the line, they want to charge you 15. That’s not the part that makes me most skeptical though to be honest. Western culture promotes women to be promiscuous, technology logistically allows it to happen undetected through social media, culture promotes using men, whether tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:37 PM
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You mean the fact that many men are gaslight about women being angel creatures that are the furthest thing from sexual beings? Only to find out many of them have low morals and are extremely promiscuous? Well yea being gaslit is infuriating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 10:13 PM
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The mere presence of girls or women being around will change men’s group dynamic from cooperation to competition. The harsh truth is it’s only really most men who have to compete to reproduce, so it’s a biological response society just chooses to ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 10:30 AM
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Good analysis but grim outcome. We have replaced social support with materialism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 10:26 AM
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They can have high standards if the wish all they want. There has to be a realization that almost all women want a guy who is top tier in al all around way (looks, money, status) and there will not be enough of them for each individual woman to get commitment from a man of said caliber.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 07:33 AM
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It was supposed to be about gender neutral sexual empowerment, which would have humans behaving like baboons. It did not work because humans do not have an indiscriminate “mating season” or “go in heat” , etc. The only reason it is associated specifically with female sexuality is because the timing of the free love movement with the invention of birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 04:35 PM
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Is it genuine cultural enforcement if the concept that is being enforced / suggested (marriage) is in shambles or decline?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 03:28 PM
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Women shouldn’t be restricted, but they can’t have their cake and eat it too. What do I mean by that exactly? Well they can’t beg and beg and beg for equality, affirmative action, etc, and then demand to only date up. Our modern day problem is you have successful women who won’t compromise 1% on finding a partner, and there’s not enough men to meet the criteria available. So they can go the KS route, “buy a dog, die alone.”, compromise on certain attributes for said partner, or participate in so…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 12:54 PM
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So love is a double edged sword….
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 10:34 PM
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I find it ironic we had the “free love movement” only about 60 years ago but male sexuality now has extra stigma.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 06:06 PM
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Sexual liberation has given all the power and leverage to the top 10-20% of men and women overall as a gender. The caveat being that it has actually benefited that top percentage of men much more than it has supposedly benefitted women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 06:41 PM
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This is ridiculous. Humans are not snakes, we do not get the ability to make huge decisions, run miles, etc upon being born. In fact, humans do not even breathe air for the first time until they exit their mothers body. You can’t just ignore the importance of parental investment for survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 07:55 PM
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It just seems like dude is not saying feminism being created inherently lead to the gender issues we have. He’s saying runaway feminism that continually pushes boundaries between the sexes is what has gotten us here. Sure you could say “not all women are extreme feminist!” which isn’t a lie, but I also don’t see many women defending men against these toxic, misandrist attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 01:42 AM
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I’d say making women single moms is definitely stigmatized more. Making a bunch of single parent homes can screw up the kids upbringing, make them more likely to join gangs / become criminals and be a tax system “drain”, in addition to increasing government spending on programs like The Great Society Act. The dual strategy really just screws one guy and he will contribute to the system to raise said kid so if anything that’s a win for the collective of humanity. However if a man is duped in such…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 07:13 PM
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In theory it would make things more definitive and be helpful but the exact opposite has happened. Metoo falls victim to the caveat that many new age ideas about relationships do. They say the old way is bad and must be abolished, which is not inherently the issue. The issue is we have said these old ways are outdated or bad without replacing a standard framework to replace traditional courtships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 09:07 AM
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No the blackpill still validates attraction for money and status for men. The caveat is that it admits that type of attraction is transactional. Many women like money and status in a man because they will in turn benefit personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 02:06 PM
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Sexual market value
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 09:45 AM
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I’d mainly agree except the blackpill is more like “personality matters waaaaay less than any guys thinks”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:49 PM
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Exactly. This is the irony of the entire study is that they had to make it a control variable and forced women’s hand to approach. The exact opposite of what usually happens in person randomly, this also took place at a function specifically for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:48 PM
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Men have more overall autonomy in changing their SMV. However because for men it is more about being an “all-around” attractive guy (having looks, money, and status) it is usually a greater time investment for them. So women have less avenues for increasing their SMV, but said avenues are usually easier and less time intensive besides extremes like plastic surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:46 PM
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Lol you think Gen Z women will be out for the provider at 30+? They’re on tik tok saying shit like “abort baby boys” and “kill all men”. It will be the exact opposite. Watch what happens, I say trophy husbands will begin to be a thing with Gen Z and it will become as common as a trophy wife. Also added note to your comment: millennials came of age and were not exposed to social media until their mid to late teen years. Gen Z literally were not born in a world without social media, or it came aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:26 PM
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I’m trying to explain in this thread that the vanity of looks in dating has jumped 2-3x in one generation between millennials and Gen Z. Exposure to attractive people on social media is also not going anywhere any time soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 02:26 PM
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Lol. calisthenics is just keeping it real. I’m assuming the 96 in his name is 1996, I was born ‘97. Because of dating going mainly online and being visual, Gen Z is extremely visual even compared to the millennials that are only one generation older. If you’re a Gen Z guy trying to date you cannot avoid that fact now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:54 PM
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I’ve been pretty successful with women, but it has been a very binary kind of experience similar to what you describe. If they initiate with me it goes well and they don’t bs, or waste my time. Taking the initiative myself is the complete opposite, 98% has been a disaster / did not work / I wasted my time and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 08:15 AM
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This is sadly true. Women understand that men are sexual creatures at heart, but they don’t understand men’s point of view about overall sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 12:03 AM
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Lets do a small economic breakdown demographically of the USA based on taxes. Women overwhelmingly are the beneficiaries of government programs In the USA, woman as a gender as a WHOLE(plenty of women do work hard and pay taxes) do not pay a net profit into said tax system. Men pay a net profit in taxes. (pay more in taxes than they use in programs) Men have taxes taken out of their money from their personal labor, at the threat of imprisonment, confrontation by the state (law enforcement), and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 09:48 PM
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Well then humanity needs to take a long hard look in the mirror if it wants to correct course and not go extinct right? The individuals that unevenly benefit from the dating market now aren’t going to do anything to make relationships / intimacy more evenly distributed amongst humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 03:09 PM
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MGTOW. When the board is rigged, don’t even bother playing / participating. Sounds harsh but better than contributing to degeneracy / social decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 12:26 PM
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Name checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 12:37 AM
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Society has a vested interested in making men overcome any obstacle to create a family. This is the long term sustainability of said society, a foundation of you will. I do agree (as a 20s early Gen Z male completely fed up with the modern dating scene) that if we were all more transparent about how dating has changed radically for young men, young men would be less bitter. The problem is society has a vested interest in male investment, not male sentiment even if they are closely correlated for…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:41 PM
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A TL;DR being that a completely selfish society falls apart and becomes a race to the bottom of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:09 PM
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What you are describing is demographics. There’s actually a worse attribute to this. If the oldest generation of men dip into the next gens dating pool (1-5 years younger) it will become a constraint on the younger men, causing them to repeat the behavior down the age ranges. This is fine as long as the population grows but collapses the second that a new generation is not larger than the previous, leaving some men without partners their own age or younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 05:15 PM
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From the male perspective, even objectively opening up about something can be seen as being “vulnerable” even without being emotional. A lot of men inherently know even this can imprint a woman’s opinion of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 01:06 PM
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As someone more on the “RP” end I would agree this one concept does trip me up. TRP is usually decent at handling nuance, except for the principle of AWALT. It should really be more like “most or all women have the capability to act a certain way due to technological, social, cultural conditions, etc.” Exceptions prove rules exist. Capable means the option is there, but doesn’t mean it will be exercised always. As you said we may have strong base desires as humans, but are still not fully behold…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:03 PM
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Yea there are lots of shitty men. This is literally why TRP preaches positive masculine influences, especially fathers in households. Consent for intercourse is on the woman, which means ultimately vetting men is on her too. You could argue pregnancy is a co-responsibility but being a single mother says something about the type of men that women associates with or associated with in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 02:51 PM
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I actually saw like a tweet type text from a woman saying, “I wish we could pick our baby daddies.” Like holy shit I was just speechless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 12:11 PM
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This an important detail to recognize also. The fact that a woman is a baby-momma without a man, says a lot about her personal values / morality. Not only is it the intention but we have technology to prevent this sh!t. Being a baby momma is pretty avoidable (more than ever now) so men’s Lee-way has disappeared as women’s agency has increased.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 12:08 PM
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Based breakdown. Single motherhood in the past was usually widows of committed relationships. The same can hardly be said today. The reason attitudes have changed about single mothers is because the context of why women are single mothers has changed and thus the attitudes changed in time in response.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:44 AM
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My personal theory (as someone who has been called pretty boy many times, sometimes Justin Bieber type jabs, etc.) Men who look super masculine or tough could be associated with high aggression on a subconscious level and thus cause uncertainty to a woman’s personal safety. There is a certain ideal balance of a persons main sex hormone, too little or too much can start to cross into territory of uncanny valley. Having a nice blend of both types of feature gives the subconscious impression that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 04:02 AM
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Shhh don’t bring up long term, social and societal consequences. If you don’t put every single persons personal preferences above the past, future, and present of humanity then you might as well be a terrible person to most of this sub. Yes those things matter but so does the past, present, and future of our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 10:23 AM
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I’d agree that “mgtow” is extremist, if anyone could soundly given me an argument that the self-preservation of “mgtow” is any different from, “you go girl, you strong and independent and don’t need no man”. Until both are extremist views generally, then neither of them are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 10:09 AM
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It’s not about conditioning or teaching. Healthy men have high testosterone. High testosterone drives and boosts sex drive. Therefore, logically, to be a healthy man (hormonally) means having a high sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 09:22 AM
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I genuinely believe many guys would accept the difficulty of the current dating market if more women were honest about the importance of looks, and didn’t gaslight men on other factors. “You just have a bad attitude.” “Be yourself!!!” “You hate women and they can sense it!!” “Hit the gym more.” All while they hear “6 figures, 6 feet, 6 inches” all over the place. The nuclear bomb was online dating (social media not just dating apps) that has taken off in the last decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:56 AM
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Problem is many girls take an even more passive role and don’t escalate, don’t break the touch barrier, don’t give hints and it’s still on the guy to decipher. Men are not only supposed to decipher the ambiguity, they’re supposed to figure out the temperament / disposition of a particular woman quickly, which is not easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:50 AM
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Tl;dr, to some people anything a man does is sexually motivated / sexually charged.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:39 AM
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You’re spot on. You’ll be degraded for simply mentioning / bringing up such a topic. Much less for expressing an opinion on it, lol. Controversial topics between men and women, I’ve noticed if you bring it up objectively people will assume you have a negative attitude about it. (cue the me soggy knee and incel slander) Some of us recognize gender relations in the younger generation are messed up but we still don’t care much, we didn’t create the problem and don’t want to be society’s Superman ei…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:34 AM
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South Koreas birth rate is close to 1 per woman. This means in the time of 1 generation their population HALVES. The guy has a valid point. Dramatic drop offs in birth rate can change population sizes quickly (2-3 generations)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:24 PM
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I think there is truth to both sides. Men do interpret nice gestures by women as romantic / sexual interest. The why is also important though. Women are not usually direct, so small things tend to stand out with men. There may be prior experience or some cases where women do compliment a man as a hint to show interest, doesn’t mean it’s always the case. Essentially, there is ambiguity on both ends. Ambiguity for the woman being, will he interpret the compliment wrongly? Ambiguity for the man bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:40 PM
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No, the comment above is just describing zero-sum game theory. It is not antisocial, it is competitive nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:40 PM
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Demographics is bad for economics and sometimes national security. Think Japan with the aging populace or countries that face “youth buldge” populations. Plus, I’ve yet to see an economic system that can get more advanced with a decreasing workforce. There is an argument for automation to close the labor gap, but we are years from that possibility still.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 05:49 PM
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I’d argue economic changes are why you see male frustration increasing. Firstly, less overall prospects and money printing causing inflation. Secondly, in the past men started careers and families in their late teens to early twenties. Nowadays this has been delayed and young 20s aged men are lower value in the market. There is nothing inherently wrong with this but many men’s libido peaks in early 20s. The biology and society at odds essentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:16 AM
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Lol if you support them ideals wise, they turn on you and that last statements are proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 03:09 PM
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Other studies have also shown that in terms of describing what they find attractive, women will say what is socially acceptable over what they want given the setting is not private. It looks good on paper to say you want a partner that volunteers in the community or fosters kittens. That translates to relationships little besides personal demeanor. It’s also not socially acceptable to say they want a rich bad boy typically. This has to be kept in mind, sometimes what women want sexually is not c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 02:28 PM
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You’re also arguing with people who are delusional enough to think everything is the same for men and women. Don’t bring up biology / testosterone / sex drive logic (it’s right) but they’ll throw a fit. A lot of biology denial in the sub tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 03:52 AM
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Yea blue pill is called the “just fallacy” view / perspective for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 03:51 AM
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Add in working an oil rig workers, construction workers, firefighters.
/r/MGTOW05/07/21 03:39 PM
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I have been diagnosed by a specialist, in person. Despite earning straight A’s, I could not tie my shoes until third grade because it effects more than your mental. ASD effects your motor coordination skills and digestive system. Idgaf about anybody’s feelings and I’d love for you to quote anywhere in my previous comment that mentioned “feelings”. TRP is very bleak and straight forward and more useful to ASD types than PUA or any other smoke and mirrors bullshit. PPD is full of people who act li…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:31 PM
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As someone on the spectrum, trp made a huge difference for me. Both sexes manipulate each other, gtfo with the one sided argument that only predatory men manipulate women. Many women manipulate gullible / inexperienced men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:38 AM
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Tik toks algorithm is practically promoting a gender war between young men and young women. As someone only in my 20s, it is scary to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 06:29 PM
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I agree with a lot of your tenets. I am a proponent of “an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure” type thought. However this creates a paradoxical reality. Those that are at the point of action will not see the fruits of said actions at all, which leads them to question the futility of trying to solve the problem. The only thing I think you forgot to mention was that should massive demographic collapse begin globally, those that will be unfortunate to still be around will have a muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 05:27 PM
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You’re both kind of right actually. In the financial system, using cash as a medium of exchange, it is too expensive and bureaucratic to raise a child. However, those that live a more simple life outside the economic system have no issue having multiple children? Why? Governments around the world have printed and debased their currencies into worthlessness, and now we’ve borrowed so much from the next generation that we can’t even afford to bring them to life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:49 PM
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Well that’s the predicament. It’s very similar to climate change, we know the consequences are very severe but far far in the future. We also know that those sort of problems could take years to overcome but no cohort of an entire society will make the sacrifices necessary now at their own detriment, on behalf of said future. Demographic collapse will be unavoidable once it’s in full swing just like climate change. People will double down on bitching about the problem as it continually gets wors…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:39 PM
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Won’t happen, can’t happen. You can’t force demographics up or down, just look at the one child policy turned into a three child policy. Only thing that could be done is banning porn, online dating type apps, and maybe some forms of social media. Perhaps if you were really alarmed with birth rate they would outright ban contraceptives and abortion, which would spark massive outcry and in its own some sort of cultural protest to still not have children. Main point, forcing demographics is a terri…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:11 PM
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I’m tall and kind of feel the same about very short girls, 5 ft 2 and under only because it just becomes inconvenient to do things like give them a hug or kiss
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:43 PM
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Curious question what if the guy is tall and muscular, but not like steroids muscular? Would the combination of height and build be more appealing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 09:16 PM
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I agree with the sentiment but you can hide apps like tinder as other apps using widgets, have secret contact names (Why is Pizza Hut calling you at 12 am???) and such to get around it. Or they could be messaging someone to meet up and cheat but deliberately deleting messages quickly. I guess for the last one it would just take one slip up though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 04:04 PM
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Since women can hold the reigns of reproduction for the most part, there is less emphasis on being competitive for the opposite sex, maybe besides very top tier men. Men know inherently they are competing with most other men and will have it harder off the rip, much less having a disadvantage like being overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 03:23 AM
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Which would say it’s a combination of 3 and 7. #7 just occurred first and made women less interested overall, followed by then receiving an abundance of online options in 2008.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 08:15 PM
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I don’t want the government to lift a finger. They ruin almost everything they touch already. I’m just saying that the same group that says they don’t care about men’s sex problems would also complain if those men did a soft “drop-out” from labor and they’re spending 50%+ of their income for basic necessities that we take for granted as cheaper presently. Alas I realize that you can’t be appeased. I concur and agree that male sexlessness is not inherently a problem but everything has its recours…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 03:44 PM
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No there will be other options in the future. Perhaps some men will buy eggs to fertilize and pay for surrogates. Maybe some sort of artificial version will be developed in the next 50 years or so. Men not getting their dick wet isn’t a problem but it does have a caveat that half this sub can’t seem to understand. Many men in society are motivated to be more productive because they have families, or believe they will eventually have a family. If you take away a large chunk of that productivity b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 03:27 PM
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Men literally pass their genes on only thru “getting their dick wet” but sure let’s stay oblivious to why it’s more than getting their rocks off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 02:51 PM
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Beauty is objective and subjective. The objective part being things like the “golden ratio” and your face being mathematically symmetrical, having certain size lips, ratio between nose and eyes size wise. Subjective attraction is just phenotype preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 01:59 PM
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Humans follow the path of least resistance. For men the path of least resistance is impregnating as many decently fertile women as possible. Similar to the prisoners dilemma, on an individual level men don’t necessarily benefit from higher standards even though socially it needs to happen. Men just don’t have a need to be as picky by nature’s design, sex is not even close to high risk for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 01:33 PM
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If I need to explain to you why demonizing a group for the behavior of a small minority is a problem, I cannot help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 01:31 PM
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You know what physical dimorphism is right? (Men and women have different anatomical and skeletal builds.) We now have social dimorphism between the sexes. Modern women expecting traditional men, obese women expecting to be with men of a healthy BMI, list goes on and on. Not only do we still have different expectations of both sexes, the expectations are inversely correlated.
/r/MGTOW15/06/21 07:03 PM
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Nobody will even hardly remember anyone who is alive now in 4-5 generations. Reproduction is not about any single person reproducing, it’s about the best genes for all of humanity being able to propagate and spread. All that matters is humanity as a whole improves and gets better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 01:17 PM
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Not necessarily. Society is an evolution of survival. Similar to how ants and bees have colonies, humans have had tribes and cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 12:37 PM
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Women: don’t sexualize us! We’re not objects! Also women: for 5.99 a month watch me turn my body into a commodity / object for visual consumption!
/r/MGTOW11/06/21 06:22 PM
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Devils advocate that scenario would be that women are just promiscuous with a certain top percentage of men. Which is like a super redpill concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:34 AM
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This is a desire, not a reason. I’m convinced half the debaters in this sub skim the content they read.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:39 AM
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If we could harbor all the angry raging feminist negative energy then we could have net zero emissions by 2025.
/r/MGTOW10/06/21 11:33 PM
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We’re already seeing it. Random mass murders in broad daylight for “no reason”. It’s a crock of shit. Economic prospects and quality of life are falling for all of us, but men are a socially acceptable target to demonize as a group on top of that. Then when some of those men feel backed in a corner, they lash back out at the system in a fuck you manner. Not that it’s right to do that, but I just shake my head when people act surprised about why that sort of stuff happens. Doubt they’d really car…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 03:53 PM
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Valid points but the underlying context is too similar for me, investment in a stranger. As far as the cold approach, you’re going to ask them to go do something in a date type setting later anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:40 PM
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Please explain to me how it’s literally any different if the date is your first in person encounter. Plenty of people can be different people over text than in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:06 PM
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Tucker Carlson is the only one I’ve ever heard mention men’s issues in America in the mainstream. Even then he only did one or two segments. Overlords probably shut that down quick. Gotta keep the men docile and in line since the big heads see us as a threat for existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:45 PM
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Plenty of women who have the attitude of, “don’t approach random women, they don’t really know you.”. Some of these women also simultaneously believe a man should fork out for dinner for a women he doesn’t really know. The double standard makes my blood boil.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:30 PM
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I wasn’t trying to be mad or angry. All I was saying is those things are distractions from the lack of fulfilling relationships in people’s lives. Sure they work but it’s not like the real thing. Like the diet soda of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:26 PM
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Problems for men... women most affected!!!!! Remember guys women are the victims of war, not their husbands that lost their lives!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:32 PM
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If it’s so bad, then why do women who get put in arranged marriages, end up arranging marriages for their own children? Surely if it was so toxic and evil, they’d do their best to break the cycle. Ya know like spousal abuse or domestic violence environmentally raised children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:22 PM
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Normalcy bias. Nice. Everything is fine today, therefore it will be fine tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:17 PM
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That’s assuming everything else stays constant though. Add in context like distrust to institutions, attacks on people who work for the state along demoralization and it can change bad. Suddenly they build on each other until you’re at a point you’re trying to correct it in an unstable society and not a stable one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:13 PM
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Guarantee you 5x as many people were economically ruined than killed. Governments flubbed majority on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:04 PM
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1000%, marriage was financially based for most of society. It’s why concepts like dowry exist. The idea of marrying strictly for romantic interest and “love” is very modern relative to the timespan of human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:58 PM
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Overall violence is down, random acts of violence are definitely up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:57 PM
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Yeah exactly. Now in a semi collapse / depression era, you think people will take kindly with government to interfering with them trying to acquire food and water? Fuck no. Just like if they tried to strip firearms in USA, you’d have to have a bunch of individuals willing to sacrifice themselves for the government to get the bidding done. (By the way, won’t happen because people are inherently selfish when survival is at stake)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:49 PM
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Misandrist societies do not last very long. Men are not nearly as upset with women’s preference for attractive men physically, they are upset that the state is artificially propping up the market. Men can no longer provide on their income alone (thanks USA for all the money printer go brrrr) and when they do labor, they subsidize security (law enforcement services, firefighters) at the expense of their labor. Add on how they constantly hear how men are evil pigs, toxic masculinity, etc. If the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:29 PM
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Imagine thinking “bread and circuses” (abundance of needs and distracting entertainment) is legitimate fun, over having meaningful relationships with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:23 PM
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Yea let’s just have the top guys create a ton of single moms. Maybe we can make a welfare state for them. Oh wait, we already have one in the states! It’s part of why we’re already so fucked now! Quantity of newborns doesn’t mean a whole lot if they all grow up in unstable environments.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:21 PM
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All the ladies that complain about “where do the stats come from!!!!” when it comes to regular information in this sub. God forbid though they make outrageous statements about CRIME STATS, THAT ARE TRACKED, and have to provide some sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:17 PM
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Something something “far-right” politics are bigoted and definitely not about national sovereignty / self-preservation of a culture. Don’t bring up that feminist attitudes are leading to declining birth rates. You might make some heads implode.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:14 PM
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You literally are just trolling lmao. 0 posts, I straight up said I’m all for sex work to be legal. Somehow acceptance = phobia! Oh my not the prostitution boogy-man!!! Oh no not instant access to sex with women!!! Go gaslight some echo chamber on Reddit, not a sub that actually has intellectual discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:56 AM
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How the hell am I to know if they spend their own money or someone else’s? Many have the most economic opportunity theyve ever had, historically. Just because I never said they could live a minimalist lifestyle doesn’t imply that I don’t think they could, but obviously many aren’t, if their aggregate spending can be a noticed force / phenomenon. Also ps, I’d love a free market economy for sex work, it’d be some of the cheapest action any man could ask for. Idgaf about the sexlessness really, it …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:37 AM
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Holy cow what an attitude. Maybe if you processed what you read before you spout angrily at someone, you’ll see the part where I said most men can live A MINIMALIST LIFESTYLE. Before you go to assumptions, I am not saying women are all bad with finances, but they are more likely to spend discretionary income than men are. I have no qualms with women, I just know the tendency for the “InCeL!!” label to be thrown around more than pocket change on social media. And if you can actually quote where I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:21 AM
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Ever heard of a thing called incentives? What incentive will young men have to work longer hours every week? Women drive consumer spending, roughly 70% of it to be exact. Many men could get by on a minimalist lifestyle. Less economies of scale due to less output by men, means life gets more expensive via goods and services. Also it could literally strain the federal government from resources if they were not able to plan in advance due to the loss in tax revenue. It’s a lot longer but there’s yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:45 AM
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Then you’re the exception, not the rule. Asch conformity experiments: https://www.verywellmind.com/the-asch-conformity-experiments-2794996 https://www.simplypsychology.org/asch-conformity.html
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:50 AM
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Maybe the fact that humans are social creatures first before rational ones? Multiple experiments where people will follow the crowd even when they know the crowd is wrong. If you understand the slightest thing about human nature, you will know most do not want to cause tensions among social groups. “Rocking the boat” as the expression says.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 02:39 AM
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So what happens if not enough men produce abundant electrical energy that all the distractions rely on?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:13 AM
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Are there random bombings in the street? Also yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:12 AM
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This country was able to get rich because the infrastructure that those immigrants built existed beforehand, not because of it. USA did not become the economic super power until post WW2. Even then, look what they did to the Japanese immigrants in USA, put them in camps. Not to mention that the general populace might not be friendly to a huge influx of immigrants. Everything works out just rainbows and sunshine in children’s movies. Life is extremely more complex and pragmatic than that. Don’t w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 11:39 PM
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Correct. Which goes to show you that when society caters to young single men, all of society benefits from increased standard of living. When society caters to women (gyno-centric) most of overall society suffers standard of living. Like it or not, it’s just nature and survival of the fittest. Nature could give a rats ass how any particular person feels about it. Men are generally more oriented to problem solving and areas that require linear / rational logic. Women are generally more oriented t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 10:34 PM
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Lol, yea that’ll work. Just bring in a new populace that has no ties to where they live. Looks like all male migrants coming to Europe is working out really well for them. Plus they’ll work for dirt wages and won’t be able to stimulate the economy to nearly the same degree. My apologies I forgot everything politically charged is so damn straight forward. That may work in terms of economics, but will have massive social back draws.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:48 PM
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My god this sounds like an STD-fest.
/r/MGTOW08/06/21 09:42 PM
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Bad actors would still exist, there would be no system to detain or stop them. That’s all that poster was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:01 PM
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And if they change their minds and decide to start learning to be self-sufficient? There’s a whole damn internet of info at their fingertips. Out of sight out of mind if that works for you. Just because you didn’t live through the dark ages, does not mean they didn’t happen. It’s not impossible they decide to start learning that type of info in the near future, and it’s more readily available than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 08:55 PM
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Society isn’t owed men’s participation in the work force either. See how that can go both ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 08:48 PM
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Absolutely. Society will probably double down on men to be responsible with even less to offer most of them. We’re already seeing the beginning of that and that’s why you have redpill, mgtow, etc as a reactionary response to all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 08:33 PM
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Societies that are lagging / sluggish always flourish after a major death event. Whether that’s war, famine, plagues, etc. Countless examples of this from the French Revolution, to the Boomers post WW2, the rise of the European middle class after the bubonic plague. The mass death events allowed the society to bloom again. Of course that’s a bleak reality that’s message cannot be sugar coated or made nice which is why it is not really talked about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:25 PM
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If there’s not enough enforcement of laws, I doubt fishing, hunting licenses would take large precedent in enforcement over serious offenses. On a micro scale of a stable society existing, men would of course prefer that. If society de-stabilizes and becomes violent, and previous luxuries become expensive, plenty of men would rather go live in solitude and provide for themselves. You’re not accounting for a mass tipping point where a macro-scale of men choose to contribute less to overall societ…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:48 PM
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So men are not the most capable to just go live out in the woods and hunt or forage their own food? If they do so in a free country who is to stop them? There goes your tax revenue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:12 PM
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I think we will unfortunately find out when Gen Z comes of full adult age (25-35, early Gen Zer here myself) This topic is simultaneously the elephant in the room, and a black sheep to discuss. Its not even brought up mainstream and much less discussed. Probably won’t even be considered until it’s already a very large problem, by that point many men will have been decided to stop supporting society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:09 PM
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Yeah they give no damn. They won’t care until all the single guys that are abundant only work 20 hours a week producing anything because they have no reason otherwise. Sure women nowadays love their liberated lifestyle but do not realize that men working on behalf of providing for their family have kept this society stable and advancing. They’ll care the second things they want become less available and thus more expensive and un-affordable. That or services like HVAC, plumbing, sewer are limite…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 10:54 AM
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Out of sight out of mind. They’re not apart of the 50% and thus don’t care. Shit I may not be in that 50%, but I still care. This shit has far reaching consequences on society overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:50 PM
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She doesn’t want the confirmation bias that things are nor about age from the 20 somethings. That would prove that they aren’t self conscious about their age while she is. (Inadvertently proving the wall is real, which she wants to deny at all costs)
/r/MGTOW03/06/21 03:25 PM
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I believe many women, especially younger ones think a guy sleeping with them means he would eventually commit. They might personally think the two things are connected, while not understanding the man does not share a mutual perspective.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/06/21 03:36 AM
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Biologically men are generally wired toward quantity (taking all sexual opportunities) versus women more likely to be wired towards quality (best genes) since it takes longer for her to reproduce. Also since men have to take all available opportunities (in theory) then fertile women are in demand by most straight men and that happens to be in their early adult years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:33 AM
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Your livelihood will be targeted and your character assassinated. Also as a Gen Z, I have an urge to watch it all go to shit and just rebuild the rubble. Personally preparing for the economic collapse of the system so I can be free and self sufficient living off nature. Yea it’s hard work but I’d rather support my self than all the social decay.
/r/MGTOW31/05/21 03:15 PM
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At least it was socially stigmatized. Once “free peace n luuuv” culture took over, having a backbone became the new counter culture.
/r/MGTOW31/05/21 03:12 PM
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Coins don’t jump from one “wallet” to another just because they can / feel like it.
/r/MGTOW31/05/21 03:00 PM
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Many women will flex these options at you. Beyoncé’s song where she’s says, “you must not know ‘bout me, I can have another you here in a minute.” We all know the reality, many of those men are just waiting on the sidelines for some woman because they’re low value and desperate, or just want a lay.
/r/MGTOW31/05/21 02:46 PM
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This advice is garbage because the logic is inconsistent. If a woman is naturally polyamorous then she shouldn’t get married in a monogamous agreement / relationship.
/r/MGTOW30/05/21 10:13 AM
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Hell this shit started in the 60s, so far less than even a century. Unless you’re also including industrializing the entire world which I also think was a bad idea all things considered.
/r/MGTOW29/05/21 07:00 PM
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Men do not have to: -maintain power -maintain sewage systems -build sh!t pay your bills or feed you -maintain road infrastructure do maintnence on things like your AC, hot water heater, roof, kitchen remodel, building a porch / wood deck protect you from other men who behave badly
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/21 01:10 PM
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Wah wah. A fake woman invaded my space so now I will complain. Forget that I never stood for men having their own spaces when women wanted to dismantle them.
/r/MGTOW29/05/21 02:37 AM
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No it is not the same. Yes both drives are biological, but men want younger women to ensure offspring are born with good health. A woman can get that without having to jump from man to man aka hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:04 PM
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The entire context of rape is loss of autonomy / decision making / actions. Nobody takes action to be raped or assaulted, thats literally the whole concept of sexual assault. Now in the context of promiscuity of personal choice, yes I would clown on anyone who is not self aware the potential consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:48 PM
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It is having the self awareness to know how one’s actions will / can affect themselves and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:29 PM
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It isn’t highly offensive or shocking. That’s simply a scapegoat to keep men from accessing information and waking up to what’s really going on out here in the world, especially the states.
/r/MGTOW28/05/21 01:40 AM
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Yea all those things you guys listed are literally happening here too... and the culture is feminized to hell in the states. If everything’s going to shit, I at least don’t want to hear about how every breath a man takes is patriarchal.
/r/MGTOW27/05/21 06:33 PM
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Yea it has become a shit show. As a man, you better have no expectations while also completing your expectation of being a work horse and provider.
/r/MGTOW27/05/21 03:06 PM
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Coins don’t get bored and decide to go find another “wallet”.
/r/MGTOW27/05/21 03:04 PM
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Fuck the Chinese but Russians actually believe in a machismo culture so if they take us over, might be some redemption for a lot of men that are belittled by the west. Tbh, the way this society demonizes strong, family-oriented men, it deserves to be rebuilt.
/r/MGTOW27/05/21 04:23 AM
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Notice how she doesn’t actually comment what she thinks of it, since you know she totally has 0 respect for the dude but has to save face cause he’s a “fan!”. She only says his opinion on the matter.
/r/MGTOW27/05/21 02:21 AM
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Women get more out of being “fuck-zoned” than men who get “friend-zoned” by a long shot.
/r/MGTOW18/05/21 11:13 PM
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Yes, let’s just totally ignore the opposite side that many men’s value comes from their wealth and resources.
/r/MGTOW12/05/21 08:29 PM
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Literally. Many women desire a legitimate paradox as you described.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/05/21 05:02 PM
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I swear anything that has to do with putting your foot down as a man, or going above and beyond is now “abuse”. If you take a stand on something or ask something of your wife, abuse. If you go above and beyond you’re “LoVeBomBINg” whatever the fuck that is. Having an opinion? Oh, now you’re “gASLightINg”!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/05/21 03:43 PM
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Morbidly obese it is.
/r/MGTOW11/05/21 08:33 PM
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Are you asking women to be adults, self reflect, and take responsibility? How dare you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Me-sog-in-ist!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/05/21 05:34 PM
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Promote degenerate culture > demonize positive male values > constant exposure to powerful men as “criminals and thugs” > subsidize single motherhood > raise poor kids in shit environments > those messed up individuals resort to life of crime and become net tax burden > surprised pikachu face when society goes to dog shit
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/05/21 03:03 PM
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I think HVW do exist it’s just they show it in a relationship rather than before, which is the premise of a HVM. High value must be demonstrated in men before getting a shot with many women, many men will give women a shot at a relationship to prove herself high value. (Loyal, agreeable, supportive, healthy, caring, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 02:49 PM
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That would require women to uphold a certain standard, that’s wrong speak in clown world.
/r/MGTOW09/05/21 03:21 PM
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I don’t think tattoos are necessarily bad on paper but the problem is it’s easy to overdo it and then it looks like a child doodled up and down your arm. IMO, tattoo placement choice says a lot about a person. I’d have a lot more respect for anyone who keeps random tats semi hidden, than the obvious attention seeker with full sleeves.
/r/MGTOW09/05/21 03:21 PM
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Yea the trad cons are fighting a culture war they lost to technology and access to instant communication. (I.e mobile phones, calling and texting) Degeneracy culture was bound to expand in private from that point forward. It’s why men with a real sense of masculinity are turning and running the hell away. Not only have they already lost the culture war, they refuse to wave the white flag. They’re too egotistical, which is why they refuse to accept defeat yet bow at the slightest feminist insults…
/r/MGTOW09/05/21 04:10 AM
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Yea but in terms of economics, being married and having a child is costing him well beyond 7k a year. Yea unfortunately the govt gets more of your money but you still come out better off.
/r/MGTOW09/05/21 03:57 AM
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Yea women howled day and night to be in men’s world of being self sufficient. When it conveniently gets difficult they want to go back to being taken care of by men. Sorry, men make their choices and stick to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:15 AM
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Welcome to 4th wave feminism which is to toxicly misandrist. Don’t worry, tik tok just exposes teenage girls to little short videos about “killing all men”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:03 AM
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It’s not that cut and dry. Childcare / daycare is getting very expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 10:33 AM
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I don’t even think they have to worry about “pick mes” when they have a list of requirements long enough to make a man turn around and sprint the opposite way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 10:30 AM
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This was recently posted by @hoodville on Instagram. If you do use IG, highly suggest them. It’s basically a RP memes account.
/r/MGTOW08/05/21 12:59 AM
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It’s not about the attributes themselves. It’s that they are unique and unique genes stand out = more likely to be passed along.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 05:14 PM
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Exactly. “Toxic masculinity” has become a buzzword for anything the left doesn’t like.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 03:28 PM
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Yea man is sad. Don’t even get me started how it’s brownie points to look as “alternative” as possible in Gen Z. (unfortunately my Gen) Piercings, visible tattoos, hair dyed unnatural colors galore. Do as you wish but no thanks. They wonder why young guys just sit around and game in their free time but never reflect on the quality of women their age.
/r/MGTOW06/05/21 04:13 PM
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Used to be addicted to them too. Would get caffeine headaches from withdraws sometimes. May I suggest also going for sugar free sauces / condiments or ones without added sugar. Even dieticians will tell you that the amount of sugar in everything we eat is the biggest diet change in the last ~5,000 years.
/r/MGTOW06/05/21 04:09 PM
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China is using their algorithm on tik tok to stoke gender wars. They understand it undermines our western culture better than they could. Here we are in America worried about social bs. Meanwhile China is trying to restrengthen their military and demographics.
/r/MGTOW06/05/21 11:31 AM
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Pretty sure everyone is wired to reproduce with their best option regardless of their fertility or attitude about kids. Subconscious mind doesn’t care what we want sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 11:29 AM
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I think you have the right idea but the wrong perspective about risk. Women tend to sleep with men who are better off when they get a chance BECAUSE pregnancy is risky, not in spite of it. Since pregnancy is risky generally, it makes sense for her to get the best available genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 03:24 AM
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This is true and validated by simping disillusionment. Aka simps validating women just for breathing in an attempt to get laid. I personally have to much damn self respect to play jester all day for a chance with a woman. It’s such a chore and waste of time / intellect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 03:33 PM
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He’s low value because he’s average / below average with resources. If it was a chad with that type of resources they’d be obsessed. Women seriously see genetic determinism in terms of success. (I.e. ugly beta men should not have power, leverage, and or resources.)
/r/MGTOW05/05/21 11:54 AM
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Men are not asking women to “fix them”. Women have a fixation to fix or change men for a personal ego boost. Men just want someone there during the difficult times because, idk that might show some loyalty? It proves you’re actually there for the other person if the situation isn’t easy. Same can’t be said for women who come around after a man is successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 10:32 AM
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No they don’t. The only reason we have an inclination to do so is because men built society, which has provided women with a small, blanket level of protection. In the past a woman committed and devoted herself to a man and received resources and security in return. Especially with the I’m independent bullshit spouted 24/7, I’m not going to personally obligate myself. The state in the USA wants any excuse to arrest you and put you in a cell already anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 10:26 AM
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It’s for sure a prisoners dilemma. Basically, any guy nowadays that has more dating leverage than women (super rare, prob combo of AF/BB) then he would be wanted by so many women, it would literally be foolish of him to commit to any one of them. Despite this they fantasize about these oxymoronic situations.
/r/MGTOW05/05/21 10:22 AM
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Concealed ovulation only occurs in 32 species in the animal kingdom. 10/32 of those species are monogamous in nature, including humans. Concealed ovulation is thought to be beneficial to the gene pool with genes from a higher tier male (AF) and provision from a regular / average male (BB). In terms of nature and natural selection, it is what it is. However, when society literally used the law to legitimize these types of situations, disallowing honest paternity shows how most feel about it.
/r/MensRights05/05/21 10:17 AM
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Humanity is becoming a cross between bee colonies and hyena social orders. Both of which screw over the average male more than any other group.
/r/MGTOW04/05/21 10:45 AM
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Learning as much financial knowledge as possible so can leverage it to prepare for when things gradually become more serious.
/r/MGTOW03/05/21 03:57 PM
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I wish I could afford gold right now.
/r/MGTOW03/05/21 03:54 PM
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Social conservatives (read: fucking trad-cons)will preach their bs against this stuff but never stand up to it. They’re too afraid one feminist is going to call them a misogynist, homophobe, transphobic rather than having a backbone. Nothing more than a different pacified version of the simping male feminist that directly support the bs.
/r/MGTOW03/05/21 03:05 PM
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If women were nearly as horny, you’d hear about the concept of all male brothels where it’s legal, but it’s not a thing. At best, male strippers maybe help their case but barely. As you said 99% of industries selling sex use women with men as the target demographic.
/r/MGTOW03/05/21 03:01 PM
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Have you seen the Bear Grylls survival island? My bet would be they’d let everything crumble in the time spent arguing about what to do.
/r/MGTOW03/05/21 02:54 PM
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The term for you to use next time you call out this “all men earn more and are way more powerful than women!” is called The Apex Fallacy. Using the highest echelon as an example and trying to pass it off as an “average” standard.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 11:59 AM
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They know it’ll fully destabilize USA which only works to their benefit. Just like how they used to be against Black Lives Matter until they realized it’s doing the same thing. We’re too worried about transgender fighter pilots to care about national security. Guess that’s why we’re screwed.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 11:56 AM
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I think China is actively trying to promote content to stroke a gender war between young men and women on tik-tok. It’s kinda sad to see but was bound to happen.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 11:46 AM
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We’ve removed all expectations from females, act like we’ve liberated everyone when in reality we just put those expectations back on top of men. Now men have to be successful, good looking, in good shape, have game, have resources all just to be considered. Most women just need to keep their weight down and take care of themselves to be considered as a partner.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 11:42 AM
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It’s basically expected that the legal system caters to women in the USA. If you can’t tell being a US resident then you’re just blissfully ignorant to the degree that laws are “gendered”.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 11:35 AM
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The Misandry Bubble is my main concern. Society doesn’t care about men because it thinks that as long as some men have a stake in society we will be ok. What a load of bs. If (USA in particular) we go from a monogamy culture to a polygamy culture it will destabilize the hell out of society from all the alienated men. If there are more angry and resentful men than men with a protective nature, society will become much more unstable and violent. That’s my concern is getting caught in that by being…
/r/MensRights03/05/21 11:30 AM
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Based comment. Simps live in an alternate reality as much as the women they gas up and praise unsolicited too.
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 09:36 AM
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I was on Tim Pools stream the other day and multiple accounts were spamming MGTOW in the chat. (Yours truly included) It made me extremely happy and sad the awareness men are receiving. We will reach critical mass when MGTOW reaches mainstream without even having the face of a leader or advocate. The ideology to walk away for men just makes too much sense and they can’t shame men who choose self respect indefinitely, only for so long.
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 09:30 AM
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The guy above is referring to simping and the welfare state. Simping validates all the terrible behavior of modern women. (social media, gassed up and inflated egos, etc.) There’s also the theory that because women carry move value for reproductive reasons, due to men being able to father many children, women always have inherent value since it insures our species survives. This is why there is a constant welfare state for single mothers on behalf of the taxpayer. (Read: men bare the majority ta…
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 09:22 AM
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False. The west is not a matriarchy yet. It is gynocentric as of now. The difference being that men are allowing women to behave however with no accountability or responsibility. Eventually trying to constantly elevate women and put down men will lead to matriarchy. (Look at hierarchies of hyenas, they suck)
/r/MGTOW02/05/21 04:40 AM
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They’ll tell you to “go back to the man-tation” and be a workhorse. If you ask why or why you stand to benefit long term all you ever get is crickets.
/r/MGTOW01/05/21 02:37 PM
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Are women who aren’t chaste and give away their sexuality worth the hassle of dating or are they just “damaged goods”????!!!!!!!!!!
/r/MGTOW01/05/21 07:16 AM
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Holy fuck thank you for the laughs 😂
/r/MGTOW01/05/21 07:03 AM
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Nobody would willing immigrate to live in a communist hellhole. That’s why they want mass migration to the west before the west collapses to shit.
/r/MGTOW30/04/21 04:52 PM
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That’s why it’s still sad that young women in masse have been getting it! Even if men are smart enough to take a step back and rebel, if they sterilize the women then they can insure a depopulation agenda 1000%.
/r/MGTOW30/04/21 12:40 PM
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The TLDR is essentially dudes paying to roleplay a traditional dude with a hot, young, feminine woman.
/r/MGTOW30/04/21 12:01 PM
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You’re saying governments benefit when it’s really women as a group that benefit. The governments don’t benefit, they fall in deep debt lol.
/r/MGTOW30/04/21 10:05 AM
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No man I think you have a good grasp but just wrong way of looking at it. Yes, men mainly bear tax burdens of society’s via their labor. It’s women that truly benefit and not just the state. Women get a blanket level of security and provision from the state. In pre modern times, she only had this if she was with a man in some way who could provide those things. Now “men” as a group provide those to women thru the tax burden without any reciprocation.
/r/MGTOW30/04/21 09:59 AM
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Tinder was up there with Netflix as one of the most profitable apps of 2019. What’s crazy is that Tinder is a service that doesn’t actually have any responsibility to give tangible results no matter how much money you dump in.
/r/MGTOW30/04/21 02:30 AM
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You make a decent argument. Look what happened to Deshaun Watson. I believe one of two scenarios, either he has some sort of power fetish, or he made real agreements with those escorts and they are now extorting him for extra cash, since admitting to being a “John” isn’t exactly legal.
/r/MGTOW29/04/21 01:37 PM
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You do make a good point regarding men’s self improvement. If a large chunk of men in society are “beta” and worked hard / self improved for a chance at reproducing through being successful in life, then the world prospers, standards of living increase, populations grow, etc. If they understand the game is always rigged and there’s no point to improve society, civilization will flatline and probably decline eventually. We are already seeing people devolve in behaviors. (Rising acceptance of poly…
/r/MGTOW28/04/21 12:21 PM
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Seriously. Not sure if you’ve ever watched Better Bachelor on YouTube but he made a hell of a point. Get physical copies of old / vintage classics to watch. Otherwise they’ll want to make your favorites “woke” later on or remove things from them, etc. Indiana Jones, James Bond, the list goes on.
/r/MGTOW26/04/21 03:59 PM
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Look up the biological concept of “concealed ovulation”. Paternal deception is literally built into human evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 11:48 AM
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So it was really an attraction to any mans abundance of resources? astronaut meme, it always was
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 02:25 PM
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Exactly. Beat some reality into that broad attacking you while driving. Could have ran him off the road and killed both. Fucking clown world.
/r/MGTOW24/04/21 12:48 PM
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That seems probable. Combine tax revenues from legal prostitution and the increase on single folks will essentially replace families having to provide for children and thus spending more to increase tax revenue.
/r/MGTOW21/04/21 10:59 PM
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Not illegal because of competition. It’s illegal because it disincentives building a family, which structurally forces a man to provide for and thus pay more resources back to the state.
/r/MGTOW21/04/21 02:03 PM
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Agreed. Humans are far too hypergamous for a matriarchal structure, biologically. Since our evolution is driven by hyper gamy mostly (women seeking men with greater opportunities / genetics) I believe humanity would be more likely to die out from not repopulating than adopting a matriarchal society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 09:45 AM
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It’s not the responsibility of good men to supervise bad men of society, especially when we’ve been hammered over and over again about how all men are terrible. Men will stand up for a society that respects them, not demeans them.
/r/MGTOW08/04/21 12:15 PM
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She’s getting called out over all the race related flashback moments, but misandry and laughing at male suffering is still accepted even in cancel culture hindsight. 🤡
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 07:29 PM
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Didn’t you know? Men can’t have their own spaces anymore. It’s one of the 🤡🌎 commandments.
/r/MGTOW17/03/21 12:26 AM
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Proof that they get much more mainstream exposure than they should, relative to what percentage of the population they represent.
/r/MGTOW16/03/21 05:48 PM
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Same brother man. Be glad you have the awareness to not simp and waste your time and resources. A lot of men let their lust fuck them over in life.
/r/MGTOW16/03/21 05:43 PM
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It will demographically strain the system too. Older societies struggle much much more to maintain standard of living and growth of GDP. Just look at Japan.
/r/MGTOW16/03/21 02:37 AM
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Highly recommend looking into the company “Jackery”. They make foldable, portable solar panels and batteries you can store the solar charges on.
/r/MGTOW16/03/21 02:32 AM
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Have to say... looks like Angelina Jolie on a 3 day bender.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/03/21 01:13 PM
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Wouldn’t a self proclaimed serial monogamist want someone who is loyal as well? Cant really understand why that would be frustrating.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/03/21 07:04 PM
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Always request an amount from these panhandlers. Most don’t even have the awareness to check if you paid them or requested them and you’ll end up the one with free monies.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/03/21 06:26 PM
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It would have huge economic and tax basis, since much of tax revenue is driven by consumer spending. Due to le sex revolution 2.0 with smart phones and dating apps, it is not unlikely a statistically significant portion of men now in young age, will continue to not date because they aren’t now. Surprise, surprise that once smart phones and dating apps came out that now close to 1/3rd of young men aren’t having sex.
/r/MGTOW214/03/21 03:32 AM
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Sure they can be free! I’m also free to bug off and do what I want in response!
/r/MGTOW12/03/21 11:59 PM
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It’s all part of the schema my friend. Why do you think this sub is quarantined? They don’t want you to see the growth that the pandemic has let flower. Notice how dating content related to pandering to men’s desires and needs in a relationship has soared in popularity? The second shit gets real in terms of survival, all the man hate goes flying conveniently out the window. All the women that agree with mgtow and redpoll still leave me suspect truthfully. They’re fed that men are all trash, aren…
/r/MGTOW12/03/21 02:17 PM
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Alright we need a poster that advises females what to do if a male friend is getting robbed / getting jumped / getting their ass beat. Otherwise this is a sexist message.
/r/MGTOW12/03/21 01:40 PM
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Sure she didn’t hurt anyone physically but she only admitted to the lie after the fact. Why did she even bother to admit she lied now? What’s it going to do, revive the guy who got beheaded?
/r/MGTOW10/03/21 10:52 AM
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I think that veil has fallen. Texas’ grid was literally fully preventable. Want to be truly shocked? Do some research about how much natural gas is used in fertilizer and thus in agriculture. If natural gas ran out, instant famine for a large portion of humanity because we can’t grow food to scale otherwise.
/r/MGTOW09/03/21 02:26 PM
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Isn’t that wild they don’t even teach survival skills to kids with all that time and opportunity? Nah, they need to be good little consumers and pacify their natural state. Except if the lights and water go out, this dependent society is FUCKED. Nobody wants to say it tho, we are pacified immensely compared to our ancestors.
/r/MGTOW09/03/21 01:35 PM
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It’s hilariously ironic. Meant to be an extremely blue pill story that just ends up teaching red pill principles.
/r/MGTOW13/02/21 09:01 PM
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Men pay a majority of taxes and women drive a majority of commercial spending. If men forgo their “dUtY” and become minimalist that’s less revenue for the system.
/r/MGTOW210/02/21 11:26 AM
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Not sure about causation, and you may have a genuine point regarding severe autism. However, as someone who actually has aspergers, I can tell you it’s not a death sentence for romantic relationships. It is simply an obstacle to be overcome. Social cues and body language can be learned consciously. (not fun trust me but was very worth it) Those on the spectrum also tends to be better learners generally, so courting concepts like “game” that aren’t very natural to most anyone, can be picked up by…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 05:39 AM
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