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mediaPasolini123/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/22 10:28 PM
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articlePasolini123/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/22 03:55 PM
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I really recommend reading this book :) It's fascinating not only because it's a misandric garbage, but also because of the way it's written. It really looks like something written by a 13 year old with a great intellectual impairment. I don't speak French, so I've read the Italian translation, but I think the original version may only be worse. And that's very telling. Apparently people who have no talent whatsoever, who would never be able to publish any other book, can easily do so, if they w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/25 10:55 AM
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Thank you!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/24 02:18 PM
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Thank you for you answer and the links. Yes, Gisèle seems to be a nice person. I'm very sorry for her. It's all the more disgusting, that crazy ideologues weaponize her pain. I don't know the French situation that much. I only know that Alain Finkielkraut criticized some of the most terrible aspects of modern feminism, but it's easy to dismiss him as an "old white reactionary man". Are there any men's advocates/leftist or liberal mra's in France?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/24 01:39 PM
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I like your post, but I agree more with the majority of the comments here. Masculinity, or at least some of its manifestations is wonderful, and I understand that young men often need to establish some positivie view of it in order to feel that they are needed, desired and maybe even loved. But this topic is almost too present in the debate. Both on the left and on the right side of the political spectrum. I hardly ever hear interviews with feminists, where the first question they would get, wou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/24 08:58 PM
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Yes, that's true. I'm not a leftist. Rather a liberal with a certain "social coscience" and more egalitarian views on economy. So I've never been very close to the Left. Although I gave them my vote about 3 times in the past. Therefore I just look from the side and notice some changes. They're more visible in the public discourse than in politics, but that gives me hope.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/24 09:23 AM
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Yes, I agree with that. The retirement age is a political hot potato in Poland. And the whole situation around it is fucked up. But as to other topics, I also believe that they're very slowly learning some lessons. And if I compare it with the Left in many other countries, I think the debate in Poland is still much ahead of what I observe elsewhere. I mean even the fact that we have it is something I couldn't imagine here 5 years ago and still can't imagine in many other places. I honestly think…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/24 08:51 AM
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On the other hand, since about half a year ago it started to change a little bit. They are very, very slowly starting to see, it's not going to work, if they only care about women and become a "Women's Party", they once declared themselves as. Minister of gender equality - Katarzyna Kotula - has even said few days ago, that she wants to make the problems of boys and men one of the main topics of Polish EU presidency. And she didn't mean the problems the Polish Left used to define as men's proble…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/24 08:21 AM
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That's a stereotype, I would say. Most gay men aren't really the fashionista type either and most straight men - at least those younger than 50 - do care about how they look. They may spend less time in their bathrooms, than their girlfriends do, but that doesn't mean they are messy. As a gay man, I'm not attracted to guys, who look as if they'd spent 3 hours standing in front of a mirror. I like regular guys, who are just hygienic and tidy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/24 05:49 PM
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In my country, there is one male advocacy organization, which is gaining popularity. It's progressive, but not feminist. Though not anti-feminist either. In fact it even works with feminists who are genuinely interested in men's problems. As well as with other groups as long as they're not reactionary or misogynistic. The founder of this organization has recently made a point I really liked. He has written in an article, that we should coin a new term. And just like we call some groups of femini…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/24 05:06 PM
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Yes, there are such people everywhere. But in my country it depends on the demographic, I guess. There was one poll, in which the support for male only conscription among the youngest groups of men was around 0%. :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/24 04:31 PM
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That's interesting. It seems very different to how the topic is being debated, where I live - in Poland. Why would they shame you? And what's the opinion among women?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/24 04:33 PM
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Yes, if Russians would attack us or any other European country, we or the men in this other country would be forced to stay - even against our will - and maybe also to fight on the front. Which is a horror and I'm absolutely against it. But the idea, that Polish, French (this fake news started with what Macron has said few days ago) or any other civilian men will be sent to Ukraine, is just bullshit.
/r/MensRights10/03/24 04:01 PM
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What do you mean with "no matter what"? Dude, the very reason I got interested in men's rights is that I'm against military slavery of men. If there were any plans to send Polish men anywhere, I would be there protesting. There are no such plans, however. Btw. I'm not a leftie. I'm a liberal (that's a different thing in Europe).
/r/MensRights10/03/24 03:07 PM
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Polish guy here. No one is sending Polish men anywhere. It's some pro-Russian shit demo, nobody gives a damn about in this country. And being a man in Poland isn't much different than being a man in the USA.
/r/MensRights10/03/24 01:43 PM
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Don't worry, mate. Especially the subs dedicated to the war in Ukraine are full of 2 types of people. The tiny minority of them are real combatants, who once joined the army, but voluntarily (!). They should shut up. The vast majority though are armchair generals who would shit their pants, if they would even have to cross the border with Ukraine, not to mention anything more. They are very "brave" as long as they live in the USA or in Western Europe. They should shut up and be sent to the trenc…
/r/MensRights03/03/24 07:16 PM
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The problem is not, when some people want to live that way. The problem is, when they want other people to adhere to their world view. And most of them do.
/r/MensRights22/02/24 02:19 PM
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But isn't it a little bit like with feminism? Whenever you say anything against it (and pro-equality), you hear, that what you're criticizing is bad feminism. But there is a good one as well. In a way that's true. There are feminists whose theories are beneficial to men. There are those, who have genuine empathy with men. Though that doesn't change the fact, that there are problems with feminism as ideology, which are intrinsic to it and which generate some of the bad phenomena within it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/24 08:34 AM
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And what are you doing here anyway? Maybe the same as me :) I'm not a leftist, but I guess that "leftwing" in the name of this sub is something like "not trad-con"/"progressive".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/24 08:23 AM
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that explains your extemist stances. If the idea that one can not force people to kill and die is extremist, than I am an extremist, a libertarian and whatever else you would like to call me. You may want to actually look up what human rights I didn't write about Human Rights as they are defined by UN. They were many times criticised by men's movements for not defending men's interest and accepting their disposability. Your rights end where other's begin. Exactly. That's why I don't have the rig…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/24 05:44 AM
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I'm not libertarian in terms of economic libertarianism, but I'm a classic liberal and being libertarian in terms of individual, human rights is not an insult to me. Anyways, I think we should start from the most important point here. There is no other situation in which a state demands from its citizens to kill other people, to die, to get physically and psychologically wounded in most terrible ways known to the mankind. So "be reasonable" :) Discussing conscription as just one of the many situ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/24 11:35 AM
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This subreddit, however, is leftwingmaleadvocates not leftwingstateadvocates. I think that men's rights movement should be as adamant about conscription as women's rights movement/feminism is about abortion. It is not in women's interest to not be able to decide about their own bodies. Then there can be women, who are against abortion, because they value something more than their personal freedoms. Women who think that some religious or ethical values they believe in are more important than wome…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/24 07:54 AM
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Few days ago she has written an article, where she asked rather dramatically "who will fight for Britian?" and moralized about young "people", who are not willing to defend their country. Now she updates the story with the idea, that "people" she means are actually only men. I think it should be made clear: not all women who criticize feminism are your friends. Some criticize it only because they fear, that men could use some of its theoretical claims about gender roles, free themselves from the…
/r/MensRights28/01/24 02:46 PM
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Or is it "manichaestic" in English. Hmmm ... Not sure ;)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/24 11:19 PM
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I'm not sure, what you mean by this. Postmodern feminism is a rather vague term for me. It covers quite a lot of things from poststructuralism to queer theory. If there is one thing common for them, then it's probably rejection of essentialism. But a general problem with postmodernism is, in my opinion, that it quite often rejected essentialism, but replaced it with its own dogmatism. That's what you can see now in Academia, in humanities, where you are at the same time not allowed to think anyt…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 11:26 PM
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Well, of course it does. But at the same time it's still built upon the dichotomy of the oppressor and the oppressed. The privileged and the underprivileged. It doesn't define those catagories, like a huge part of 1st and 2nd wave did, as "men". It defines the oppressor as "patriarchal structures", but it's still very manichaeic. To put it in a different way, it rejects absolutelly all gender binaries, sometimes even the biological ones. Apart from the one, which is it's "raison d'être".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 07:48 PM
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No problem. Stowarzyszenie na rzecz chłopców i mężczyzn. That's their website. https://schm.org.pl/ If you're interested in Polish debate about men's rights, you can f.e. also check Patrycja Wieczorkiewicz. She is a feminist and some of her views are rather problematic to me. But she has written recently quite a lot interesting things. She has criticised the way "incels" are portrayed in the media (and has written a book about them). She has also written about the "women and children"-rhetoric a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 06:42 PM
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Yes, exactly :) I also "love" when somebody asks on reddit, what people think about the draft and it being restricted to men. There are immediately comments, which call him an "incel". And you don't even know what's the problem those people have. Are they feminists, who can't stand when men want to talk about their issues, because that's an audacity "in the patriarchy". Or maybe trad-cons, who think that not being ready to "defend women" is an idea only a pathetic "p***y" can have. Usually they …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 03:05 PM
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In my experience the most terrible people to debate men's issues with are not feminist women (apart from some extremists), but feminist men. Feminist women I talked with may have been biased, ideologically blinded etc. but rarely have they rejected all my arguments. Feminist men however usually don't even know much about feminism and treat it merely as a new form of chivalry. They quote some of the popular feminist slogans, but it takes only 5 or 10 minutes of conversation and they start using t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 12:53 PM
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It's easy. Those WHO LIKE being military men should just be that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/24 11:59 AM
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I really love this kind of leftism. Let's destroy hundreds and thousands of peoples lives in order to bring us 0.00001 inch nearer to the utopian higher cause! A cause, which has never even existed in the history - a world without wars. Btw. the world is not only USA. Most countries aren't strong enough to attack other countries. And those who are, don't give a shit about whom they are sending to fight and what do their societies think about it. They do it the Russian way - prohibit even calling…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/12/23 10:43 AM
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If we as a society decide that men can be forced to fight and die on the frontline, then it's not real equality, when women can only be forced to do whatever is not dangerous. In fact it could even worsen the situation of men, because then they couldn't hope to get some "better" positions in the army. Women would be given them and men would serve as cannon fodder even more than they already do. This doesn't mean, that I want women to go through this shit. I think that no state has any moral righ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/23 06:34 AM
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Probably all stereotypical ideas about gender are somewhat based in biology or at least in certain observable facts. I'm also one of those "problem solving guys", so I can relate. But I wouldn't say that men don't need coddling. They might think it, but they usually think it as long as they live on the bright side of life and as long as there is someone who loves them. As soon as problems appear, relationships end etc. they start to feel the lack of societal empathy towards them and it starts to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/12/23 03:02 PM
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Same in Poland. Only with the exception, that the constitution doesn't prohibit the state from drafting women. Quite the opposite: both the constitution and the main law, which regulates it are gender neutral. There are however minor regulations, which speak only about men and certain groups of women (f.e. nurses). So in theory we have a gender neutral draft. In practice it's suspended and if it would be reinstated, probably only men would be drafted. The only positive thing about it is, that th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/23 11:32 AM
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Thank you for sharing this. If there is a debate about it, I'm rather afraid of finding out what are the arguments against.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/23 09:34 PM
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I can relate to it. That's at least how I felt, when the war in Ukraine started. Seeing all the crying men and thinking about all boys and young and not so young dudes, who had to stay there and maybe were about to be forced to fight made me quite depressed, although I don't have any serious mental health issues. Shortly before that event, I had read a lot about philosophy. But suddenly I felt, that I didn't need it, because when you're only a piece of meat, what difference does it make, whether…
/r/MensRights03/10/23 09:00 AM
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I think I agree with you, OP. Men shouldn't be forced to anything because of their gender. All men are "real men". There are many different ways of being a man and all of them are good. These should be the golden rules of male advocacy. BUT ... With that being said, there is nothing wrong with things traditionally regarded as masculine, with men having some kind of decent and healthy male identity and with men enjoying some of the more traditional male hobbies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/10/23 06:58 PM
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Exactly. This is a minority here, I think and I hope. But about 20% of the comments are in fact like this. These are people, who would be perfectly ok with every single shit, which has happened to men in the history and with it happening to them today, as long as there would be no feminists, their masculinity was more appreciated and women were more like in the 50s. I mean, I'm O.K. with them holding such beliefs. I'm not one of those crazy progressives, always ready to call people, who prefer t…
/r/MensRights23/09/23 03:03 PM
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First of all - survival. Societies where weak men predominate collapse really quickly. It's Men'sRights. Not SocietiesRights or SocietiesSurvival sub. You have to be a man first, then you can have rights. It's only men who are, and the only ones who can be, the guarantors of rights. Wow, that's fascinating. So all the things debated here on this sub should only apply to men whom you consider worthy of being called men. Well, that's a fantastic male advocacy!
/r/MensRights23/09/23 01:06 PM
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Who decides what's worthy or unworthy of a man? Politicians? Military? God? Or just you? You're free to believe whatever myths or ideologies you want to believe in. The point is, this sub is about Men's RIGHTS. Not about DENYING MEN their RIGHTS, whether through legislation or by telling them what's worthy or unworthy and calling them cowards.
/r/MensRights23/09/23 12:39 PM
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Being a man is about being a human with male chromosomes, hormones and genitals. And men's rights advocacy is about letting men decide, how they want to define their masculinity, without either tradcons or feminists (or whoever else with whatever political agenda) forcing them to live up to their expectations and definitions of what "being a man is about".
/r/MensRights23/09/23 12:14 PM
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So you are saying on the sub dedicated to men's rights that men who don't want to die in war are "weak men"... 🥴
/r/MensRights23/09/23 11:24 AM
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Dude, your comment is a pure American fantasy about "good, old-fashioned" place, "where men can still be men and women can be women", because "there are no feminists there". You project your own tradcon beliefs on a country you clearly know nothing about. That's disrepectful. There are men who are willing to fight there. But there are also those, who don't want to end their lives in their 20 or 30s, who are scared, who try to escape the country or get an exemption from the draft. If I get it rig…
/r/MensRights23/09/23 10:07 AM
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Yes, everything you've written is true. I would add one more thing. I remember when there was a huge trend for men to be "metrosexual" some 10 or 15 years ago and someone quite rightly observed, that it was indeed allowed for men to be "unmanly" but only if they were manly enough to let themself be less manly from time to time. Like, if you are a succesful footballer or a movie star, if you have muscles and very manly jawlines, you can allow yourself to wear a pink shirt or a diamond earring. Th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/23 06:59 PM
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Exactly. I fear it is the end of LWMA :( The best thing about reddit was, you didn't have to be an activist, a keyboard warrior or a social media nerd to stumble upon such content. I've made my first reddit account in order to look for informations about foreign languages, technology, cooking, games and some lgbt-themes. And then I found LWMA, I'm not even sure when and how. I fear that neither kbin nor mastodon can reach new people the way I discovered this sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/23 08:07 AM
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Yes, exactly. That's the argument I make as well and it is a good one :) Also because most of the legislations don't "only" force men to some kind of participation in war. They are usually much more draconian than similar laws working in times of peace. F.e. in my country, you can't even make the most dramatic decision and mutilate yourself in order to dodge the draft, because you would go to prison. I guess that's the case almost everywhere. So truth is there is no law which would make an indiv…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/23 06:48 PM
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As to "mansplaining", I think that's also something related to male bonding, in fact. Many dudes like to brag about something they've read or something they just know and exchange informations this way. The unwritten rule in male groups is "one day I present my nerdy fact about technology/football/history/cars or whatever hobby is shared by most guys in a certain group, next time you'll present yours". Most men just behave the same way when women are around, sometimes even overdo it, when they w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/23 09:51 AM
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Basically, I don't have anything against the idea, that men could learn something from women. As long as we accept that also women could learn something from men and as long as this kind of "learning" is not imposed by any ideology. In fact I often read on subs dedicated to men's mental health, that many guys would like to have deeper conversations about their feelings with other men. There is certainly some cultural change going on and tradcon machismo is getting more and more outdated. Where i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/23 09:35 AM
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Thank you for sharing this. I tend to think, that one of the very few positive things modern feminism has done for men is that it has given us intellectual tools to criticize traditional gender roles, we would have otherwise regarded as "natural". Such texts, written before the 1968 prove that I actually might be wrong. Maybe we could have had this debate without feminism and without all the misandric bs as byproduct. As to the point you're making, I think the most important thing is that any ar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/23 05:20 PM
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Yes, that's one of his "best" ideas.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/23 07:18 AM
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Dr Richard Reeves has become the main expert in "masculinity crisis". The whole debate about "masculinity crisis" shouldn't be confused with male advocacy, because its main concern are not men as individuals, but men as members of society and/or partners of heterosexual women. The main protagonists of these debates always start with saying how boys fall behind, how they draw back from life in order to play computer games etc. So it's easy to agree with them and to like them. Sooner or later thou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/23 04:03 PM
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Which is a pity, because the podcasts he made, were very good. I would love to hear more of them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/23 09:58 AM
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In English or in some other languages as well? As to English podcasts I like Modern Wisdom. Being gay myself, I have to admit that's not the most LGBT related show. Quite the opposite, tbh., because Chris Williamson has probably the ambition to deradicalize young men who like Andrew Tate and other problematic figures by talking about dating from the perspective of heterosexual men, but without either feminist dogmas or the toxicity of certain parts of the manosphere. But apart from that, he also…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/23 05:04 PM
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Yes and btw. a lot of transphobia is rooted in misandry and the demonization of male sexuality. I mean all this panic, according to which transwomen are just dressed up men, who want to assault women. And put on skirts and make-up, because all they dream about is to watch the ladies taking shit. Even the way they describe transwomen, when they want to ridicule them in their hateful texts! There is always much talk about "big hands and feet hairy legs" there. Because they feel disgusted by men in…
/r/MensRights17/04/23 10:56 AM
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I know that there are some controversies around Trans Clinics, puberty blockers etc. which should be discussed. But those guys are really not the best people to do that. They share the very British obsession with transpeople and perpetuate the idea, that trans rights are the greatest threat to democracy, reason, freedom of speech or maybe even to the very existence of the world. I am not even sure if they ever talk about something else. They are just transphobic and the only "connection" to men'…
/r/MensRights17/04/23 10:16 AM
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That's a really important and complicated topic. The fact that we started to talk about men's feelings, their emotional needs and the expectations towards them the society still has, is very positive. I see that many young men are eager to talk about it and that it seems to help many of them. At the same time, even the best ideas can change into bad ideas as soon as they become religious dogmas. And sadly, that's what is also happening. Like in many other areas, the dominating feminist discourse…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/23 04:39 PM
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Half of your comments begin with "I don't understand", "what's your point" etc. And that's exactly your problem. You come here with a set of shallow slogans - the usual mix of mainstream pseudo-progressive mantra mixed with some deeply ingrained tradcon beliefs - and can't even understand the arguments of people you're trying to discuss with. sO it's noT fAir. And is it fair? And when yes, then according to which set of values? Chivalry? Maybe. Certainly not gender equality.
/r/MensRights13/02/23 01:12 PM
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Do you know what's one of the main reasons why many women stayed? Because their sons, husbands and brothers weren't allowed to get out and they didn't want to leave their loved ones alone. So even if you have been indoctrinated enough to believe, men can't speak about their problems, you could at least understand that some of these problems have an impact on women as well. That's why it's so funny when morons like you think, that they are very progressive, when they come here to fight, what they…
/r/MensRights13/02/23 12:50 PM
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Yes! That's exactly what I mean! There is a lot of fatalism in the comments under this post, but I guess, everything depends on the definition of "fixing" the gender empathy gap. When we think of it the way feminist discourses think about "patriarchy", then indeed, we're not gonna "smash" the empathy gap and change the society into some utopia of our dreams. But if what we mean by that, is making people more aware of the existence of such bias - letting them see,that their thoughts they regard a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/23 03:46 AM
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It's probably impossible to close the empathy gap. But it is possible to make people aware of its existence. And I think that's quite important, because this bias is pretty much unconscious, which is also the reason, why it is so easy to use it the way both feminist and tradcon discourses do (albeit in different ways).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/23 12:36 AM
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I'm also quite sceptical of some of the aspects of psychology and therapy (although I wouldn't compare them to amulets, unless we talk about things like Lacanian psychoanalysis), but I've used CBT only as a figure of speech or a metaphor. Ofc we never know how representative the comments on the internet really are, but in this particular case, they were quite interesting, because if I'm not wrong, the channel wasn't part of any internet "bubble". Neither feminist, nor MRA one. So I think, that w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/23 03:30 PM
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Not necessarily :) I think this point should be used a little bit like a CBT therapy, in which a therapist questions the thinking patterns his patient has developed, before he questions the "content" of his thoughts. There is this youtube video, where a man and a woman pretend to be homeless and check how people react. It has even been posted here. The most interesting thing about it is not even the video itself, but the comments bellow. Almost all of them express some kind of shock and sadness.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/23 02:52 PM
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No problem :) I'm not active in any MRA organization. But as to online spaces, they don't seem homophobic to me. Sometimes you can find some bs on Men'sRights, but usually heavily downvoted. I agree with your view of feminist spaces. I'm not sure if homophobia is the right word for what's going on there. And I think one has to admit, that there are feminist who genuinely care about LGBT rights. But it seems to me that the main way in which homosexuality is present in feminist theory, is the visi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/23 02:42 PM
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I think I'm a natural born male advocate, because some of the thoughts were running through my head eversince I can remember ;) But there were 4 most important things, which made me really aware: My encounter with Swedish feminism and its omnipresence in the Swedish media, (somewhere around 2006). The fact that when I was in my early 20s, military training was still obligatory in my country. Guys, who went to college, like me, were not conscripted, but I was very affraid not to pass the exams, i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/23 12:12 AM
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Your story is interesting, because the usual claim is that MRAs / male advocates are men who would like to go back to the 1930s in terms of gender roles. Whereas my personal observation has always been quite different. Yes, there are men, who feel attacked by the misandry in the media or who went through some problems related to custody, who don't think about the problems men have in a more theoretical way, but just react with some instinctive conservatism. Though among them who would really lik…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/23 08:28 PM
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Well if you define "pulling their weight" as going abroad and fighting, then I'm not pulling mine either.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 09:44 AM
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It's important to know who's pulling the weight. And appreciate the men who fight instead of pretending that the battlefields of Ukraine are full of women - like some media do. Also: if the societies want slavery, this slavery should apply to both genders. I'm an egalitarian. But I don't like it and don't want it to apply to anybody. If you want to make it into a case against women, it's your choice. I want the society to be better for men, not to make it worse for women.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 09:36 AM
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As to the volunteers, I don't really care tbh. As long as men and women are free to make their own choices, I don't mind them choosing differently. The only one real problem I would concentrate on is that men are forced to fight or stay behind and be prepared to get drafted. And I don't even mean Ukraine, because that's something most legislations in the world have as an option.
/r/MensRights06/02/23 08:42 AM
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Could you elaborate on that? I know Nordic Countries, quite well. Especially Sweden,which is The Bible Belt of this religion. But I know less about Finland. Only what I can read in Swedish speaking media.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/02/23 07:52 PM
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In Poland, where I live, the vast majority of psychology students are women. Although there are more and more men studying psychology. The big question however is, how many of them will work as therapists and how many will choose to work in big corporations and make money there. Anyway there is one very positive thing, which I observe since few years. Male psychologists seem to be increasingly interested in men's issues. Ofc many of them use feminist terminology like "patriarchy" or "toxic mascu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/23 03:17 PM
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Oh, that's interesting! I've never thought about it this way, tbh, but I think you are probably right. My main interpretation is the "eat cake and have it" - mentality. Many feminists would like to free themselves from traditional "constructs", where it suits them, but still have the same old expectations towards men,where it is convenient.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/23 06:02 PM
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You should have replied, that feminism has fought for you to be who you want to be and thanks to it you don't give a **** about "toxic" "social constructs", like the one that men must be brave any more. Which btw. is not even pure irony. One of the few things feminism has done right is, that it has made us aware of the gender roles and the way they can potentially harm us. The problem is that many feminists can't really accept the radicality (in a positive meaning of this word) of their own proj…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/23 02:14 PM
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That's just bullshit. Yes, some people have toxic expectations, when it comes to relationships and dating. And yes, it might be true, that this is the form of this toxicity, which is more prevalent in women. But this doesn't mean, that all women are like that. It doesn't even mean, that women, who want their partners to provide for them don't love them. In fact the reason, why many conservative men idealize the old gender roles, is that they grew up in such families and saw their dads loved and …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/23 10:44 PM
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Tbh with you, I think that such men's issues as those, you described here, are the only ones, which get a lot of attention in the mainstream and in feminist discourse. There's currently much talk about gender expressions and about men, who want to be feminine, wear feminine clothes etc. As to artistic men, the idea that art is something feminine is very strange to me. I don't think, that this stereotype is especially common in my country, so maybe that's why I'm kinda surprised, when I read abou…
/r/MensRights18/01/23 02:58 PM
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I agree with the general idea expressed in your post, dear OP. I actually think misogyny still is a problem in certain cultures, in certain milieus and in certain ideas about gender. But the big difference is, that it is widely acknowledged and recognized. Germans have a wonderful word: "salonfähig", which Wiktionary translates as "acceptable for polite society". It is helpful in this context, because the main difference between misogyny and misandry is that the first one is definitely not "salo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/23 12:29 PM
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The problem is, however, that this kind of ideology is, despite being absolutely bigoted, harmful to gay men as well. For many different reasons. First of all, now that gay people are more accepted than ever, some "woke" people start to perceive them as the privileged group, because they are men. Even in gay spaces, you would find gay men absolutely convinced, that their problems are nothing compared to the tragedy of being a woman. Meanwhile it still happens, that some gay people get rejected b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/12/22 06:23 AM
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Gus van Sant's movies. He is particularly interested in young men's problems and treats them with a lot of empathy. His Good Will Hunting is probably one of the best movies about masculinity ever made. The confrontation between a self-assured, very intelligent, overconfident young man and an older, experienced guy is like an allegory of what most of us have gone through. I mean the experience of being young and full of testosterone and energy, thinking we are invincible and will live forever. An…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/12/22 01:48 PM
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Robert Enke. He was a German footballer, a goalkeeper. He wasn't my idol,because I didn't even know much about him before his death. But his story is terribly sad and somehow emblematic for some of the problems discussed on this sub. "Enke died by suicide, standing in front of a regional express train at a level crossing in Eilvese, Neustadt am Rübenberge" - that's what Wikipedia says about his death. He was depressed, because his little daughter had died 2 years before, due to a heart disease. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/22 12:40 PM
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Neither do I. I don't believe in any genderless utopia. It may work for non-binary people, but not for the vast majority of men (and women). Therefore the idea, that all men have to do is to change and be more like women looks a little bit like conversion therapy to me. They should feel free to be who they want to be, but this must also include the more traditional ways of being a man. It becomes a trap though, when men are considered disposable, because of their biology or nature. I don't mean …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/22 09:53 PM
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Yes! That's a very interesting problem. How to allow men to be proud of their masculinity, without making them fall into the trap of all the traditional expectations? It happened to me many times, that I appreciated some public figures, I thought were defending men,only to realize they are defending "masculinity". By which they mean nothing more and nothing less than male disposability. Best examples: Camille Paglia who is missing the "good old days" of Vietnam war. Or a Swedish philosopher - Al…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/11/22 08:41 PM
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A propos having fun. Men are not only good in having fun together, but also in having fun alone :) In a shopping mall,where I usually go to buy groceries, there is a very huge LEGO department. I rarely see any children there. Instead I see there men in their late 20s, 30s or even 40s. ;)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/22 03:39 PM
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I like my male sexuality and my male body - also for everything it does and is capable of in a non-sexual context. We are stronger, we don't have periods, we can piss in standing and we have a penis. There is no need to elaborate, I guess :) I like some of the hobbies usually perceived as "guy hobbies". Especially all the nerdy things from comics and games to technology and gadgets, but also other things like football (soccer), having a pint with my mates in a pub or drinking a good whisk(e)y. I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/22 03:18 PM
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The author of this article defines feminism as opposition against traditional expectations related to gender, which is not exactly the most controversial part of this ideology. At least not to anybody who is moreless progressive. And how does she define all possible criticism of feminism? As Andrew Tate. It's a little bit like with some crazy conservatives, who see the representation of their ideas in Jesus Christ and the representation of all the ideas they don't like in Mao Tse Tong or Pol Pot…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/22 08:30 PM
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Thing with Ukraine is that it closed the borders to all males, and that currently it is still mostly men serving in the military. Oh yes! I absolutely agree with you. Btw. despite being 100% pro-Ukraine, I'm also very much against its decision to ban men from leaving the country. What I've meant is only the military side of it and the pseudo-rational argument according to which the draft is a necessity. In fact I've even seen it here, when someone posted information about the reinstatement of co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/22 01:11 PM
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You know, sometimes I also have quite conspiratory thoughts. The theory of "toxic masculinity" or the idea, that all our problems could be solved if we would organize a pyjama party with our besties and cry the whole night (ofc not even over the problems we have, but preferably over "patriarchy") are so much promoted by the mainstream, I'm not especially surprised, that people are indoctrinated. But some things are just strange. One of such things is what happens on the sub dedicated to men's me…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/22 03:11 AM
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I've been reading the reactions on reddit (not on feminist subs) today and I have mixed feelings. I haven't found as many comments of the "men's day is everyday, because men are privileged" - kind as I thought I could find. Which is positive. But I've found hundreds of religious mantras about how feminism will solve all the problems men have and make us all happy, because it will abolish patriarchy and by doing so finally allow us to cry and talk about our feelings. Wow, I just can't wait till t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/11/22 01:37 AM
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The funny fact about Ukraine is, that it is much less dependend on conscripts, than it is being broadly assumed. The country wanted to make its army professional, so the draft was considered just a temporary solution,when it was reinstated about 10 years ago. And as far as I know, it's very likely, that that's the path Ukraine wants to take in the future. NATO + professional army. Even now when the war is raging, they have suspended conscription and young men don't have to serve the way they wer…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/22 11:14 AM
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I think, that the problem here is exactly the same as with the vast majority of feminist observations and theories, especially those about men. They make sense when you treat them as a one perspective on how the things look like, but allow other as well. They become absolute nonsense when they want to explain the whole reality with its dogmas. And this "men aren't allowed to cry"-mantra is a good example of that. That's true, that there is a stereotype, that "boys don't cry" and that it can have…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/22 03:21 AM
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Yes,I agree! I don't like to blame men too much, because that's a discourse there is no shortage of. But I think that the problem is also, that men usually don't care about any gender-related topics and when they do, then they understand them as a modern form of chivalry. There is very little attempt to create any male perspective, without going against everything feminism stands for, but also without simping and saying only the things women would allegedly like to here. Ofc feminists - especial…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/22 03:04 AM
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A half year ago, someone asked on a different sub (one dedicated to gay men), what do people there think about MRAs. One of the most upvoted answers (although there were some, which gave me more hope as well) said smth like: "MRAs are pathetic idiots,who feel discriminated against, because they can't call women b*****s anymore". I don't call myself a MRA, because I avoid labels and ideologies. And I can also agree, that some people identifying as such are toxic. Nevertheless, if that's what aver…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/22 12:20 AM
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I'm not sure if they acknowledged it, but I guess, that they didn't want to question the court judgment. At the same time they wanted to push their ideological agenda, nevertheless.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/22 06:57 PM
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People who were punished for a crime they didn't commit, don't have remorse and they shouldn't have any. And as to the point you're making, I kindly remind you, that neither rehabilitation nor its gender aspects were the topic here. The topic was how some feminists defend and in some cases even idolize women who are accused and/or punished for different crimes, including "bad decisions" like tortures and murder, not because they claim to see any reasonable doubts as to how the legal system has w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/22 09:37 AM
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I'm sorry to have frustrated you that much. I don't say that people who have commited a crime (because calling a murder a "bad decision" is a little bit odd to me) don't deserve a second chance after prison. As far as I can see, though, Donna Hylton is not one of the criminals who speak in the talk shows about how they repent and how they've changed. She is an activist who preaches feminism. That's one thing. Another one is what I would call bad taste. The fact that someone repents killing a man…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/22 09:16 AM
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I've made some internet research, because I didn't know Donna Hylton before. Now I'm impressed. She seems to be a very bRaVe wOmAn!!! She fights the pAtRiArChY, makes speeches on many women's marches, gives interviews about the opression of women. OMG! Just imagine! This woman is so STRONG, that she was even speaking on a Pussy Hat March!!! So it's not only that feminists have defended her, because they see all female abusers, murders etc. as victims. No, miss Donna Hylton is apparently a femini…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/22 09:14 PM
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I would like to say, that I'm shocked, but I'm not. :/ I remember the first big metoo-case in Sweden. The woman (Cissi Wallin) who accused a guy was revealed as liar and sentenced for false accusations. But many feminists defended her. Their argumentation: "Maybe she made up the whole story, but she was so brave and gave courage to women who REALLY had been assaulted or raped! And that's why she was under attack. Because patriarchy hates sTrOnG wOmEn". (Btw. the guy whom she has accused is one o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/22 02:25 PM
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This problem is quite complex. In the leftist theories of the past and among many leftist intellectuals - the Frankfurt School, Baumann, Foucault, Derrida etc. - there's been a lot of criticism towards the Enlightment and its definitions of "ratio" and/or against the scientific discourse as a product of the relations of power. But without going to deep into the history of ideas, one can admit that today's mainstream left, especially lib-left, takes quite rational positions and fights against the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/11/22 03:30 PM
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I would add one thing. The brutality of the method people use is indicative of the level of their desperation. Quite often people who feel very bad, but still have certain will to live, although strongly overshadowed by their despair, subconsciously or consciously want to have some chances to survive left and that impacts what method they choose.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/11/22 09:34 AM
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Yes, I see it the same way. That's exactly this hypocrisy, which makes me angry. I had had my bi-phase, before I realised that's "not my cup of tea". And although I'm not very shy myself, I think I can understand what many guys are going through. I also know dudes who seem to be super bold and self-confident, but whenever they want to approach a woman and flirt with her, they get red and start to stammer. I think that many women don't realize how difficult this whole dating theater is. Probably …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/22 12:44 AM
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It's quite popular in Poland, since at least 2014, though I'm not sure when it started. Maybe a little bit earlier. It's also promoted by actors, sportsmen, companies etc. The best thing about it is that the organizers offer free full screenings for prostate and testicular cancer in shopping malls. PSA and ultrasounds are usually refounded here and if you don't want to wait, you can buy them in a private clinic for around 25-max50 $, so it's not like these free test are something extraordinary, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/22 12:03 AM
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I think the reasons why they don't go or (at least not as many as before) are pretty much similar to what you've described in your comment. They have many other career paths to choose from and most of them lead to more money. I have a diploma in humanities, but tbh it didn't help me much. All of the jobs I've had were totally unrelated to my degrees. You know, as a gay guy, I like shy men very much, so I regard this idea,that men should always be outgoing and ready to perform as a part of "toxic…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/22 07:40 PM
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I also use this argument sometimes,but not in order to claim, that we shouldn't help boys, but to argue against the Schadenfreude, which is quite often visible in this debate. I mean the whole idea, that men are the losers of modern societies is used both by those, who want to help them and by those, who can't hide their orgastic satisfaction with,what they would call as "the future is female" or as the the title of one bestseller book calls it "The Decline Of Men". I think that's why it's indee…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/22 12:38 PM
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I mean there is no conscription nowadays in Poland. In theory it might be reinstated someday, though. So it's not completely abolished, but suspended. I think that's how it looks like in most European countries, which decided to have professional army somewhere in the 90s or the 2000s but used to have conscription before. In the past however, when the military service was mandatory, guys who were studying at the universities were exempted from it. So many young men went to universities, just bec…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/22 01:35 AM
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I think that societies should definitely help boys and I also think that the gender education gap is a problem in many ways. But I've been also thinking, whether we shouldn't look at the whole thing from different perspectives as well. In my country education is for free, even if you study at 2 or 3 departements, so many people do study and it happens that those, who ended their education on high school are being look down upon. Till 2007 many guys pursued universitary studies also because stude…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/22 11:57 PM
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What I want to write about may not be the best example of gender empathy gap, but it is related to what fathers of seriously ill children are quite often dealing with. When they receive bad news from a doctor, they are quite often expected to stay strong not only for the child's sake, which would make sense, but also for the sake of their wives. And when they have emotional breakdown, they hear they should "man up", because their wives need them now. Well, of course they do,but not more than men…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/22 11:36 AM
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The only part I don't agree with is "bordering on". In fact it IS religion.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 09:47 AM
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That's a very interesting question, I've been thinking about, without coming to a definitive conclusion. Some gay guys have bad experience with male homophobes and bullies, so they tend to have more empathy with women. Especially with female victims of bad men. Some other gay guys just take everything which is coming from the progressive circles for granted, and as we all know empathy towards men is not exactly the most common occurance there. Then there are also non-sexual and non-romantic fact…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/22 11:53 AM
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I see that all comments, including my own :), concentrate on the lack of male solidarity or in-group bias. But there is one more thing to be said. Let's assume for a while, that heterosexual men tend to be more willing to help women, because they love women. I don't think it's the whole explanation, but I imagine this might play some role. Isn't it strange then, that women in this experiment didn't show as much empathy with the opposite gender as men did? The "toxic femininity" part of the story…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/22 09:44 AM
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I agree with many things you've written,but I would be careful with certain stereotypes. There is this very common idea, that guys like to compete with each other and fight over "who's got the bigger dick". But I think that this idea is not always fair. Yes, it happens. And sometimes it really takes outrageous and "toxic" dimensions. On the other hand, I've had many friends like this. Guys who loved to brag about their sexual adventures, their achievements,their new gadgets. Everything. But exac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/22 12:54 AM
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A propos Polish men: not only are we dying earlier, but we are also working longer. 5 years longer than women. Because we still have unequal retiring age. That itself is a relic from the past, obviously. Our former, liberal governement had wanted to change it, but by making the retiring age higher for both genders. The currently governing conservative-populist party just brought back the old rules. The most funny thing however is, how are liberals and leftists reacting to this problem. Well, alm…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/22 09:08 PM
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First how talking about men’s struggles can get you labeled alt-right. ? This one was a very clever feminist strategy. They've noticed that some parts of the manosphere were pro-Trump. Ofc mainly other parts than MRAs. In fact even on MensRights the progressive/conservative ratio is maybe 80/20. At least this is my experience. And there are more MRA places than that subreddit. But they knew, that this was their moment to finally smear all who don't agree with them,first and foremost those whose …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/22 04:42 PM
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I love this very religious way of thinking :)) It's a little bit like with Christian fanatics, who think that there are 2 kinds of atheists. Those who are bad people and those who also believe in God, but just don't know about it, because somehow they didn't yet find their path to faith.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/10/22 05:25 PM
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The most funny thing about this is that while almost all gender specific resources and anti-discrimination programs go to women, the narrative is that women are being totally ignored, whereas rich men celebrate their "brotherhood" at the expense of women. It's a situation like in the comic book "Y: The Last Man", where there are no men left, but feminist guerillas still bravely fight "the patriarchy".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/10/22 08:28 PM
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I'm not an expert in biology, but I don't think there is any contradiction here. The fact that cars didn't exist since the beginings of our species, doesn't prove that there is no biological reason,why young men like to drive fast more often than old women do. In fact our evolution happened before the invention of most of the toys we know today. This doesn't mean that certain qualities they have, couldn't appeal more to one gender than another. The predisposition to like wheeled toys or even whe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/10/22 05:19 PM
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Yes and also Kazakhstan,Belarus etc. I should actually have said "EU-countries"...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/22 11:22 PM
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To say that heterosexual guys should fuck each other, when they don't get laid, is kinda advocating for conversion therapies. Terrible bigotry disguised as a progressive idea.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/22 03:54 PM
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Is there any country bordering with Russia, which didn't say no? Finland is even building a fence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/22 03:43 PM
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Well I guess I also have quite masculine personality, so I don't think femininity was what my touch starved friend was looking for :) But I understand what you mean. Many heterosexual relationships are about "feminine-masculine" dynamics, whereas gay relationships can either reenact them in a "butch-femme" kind of way or be something like a "bromance + sex". I'm rather on the latter side of things. I don't feel feminine and I'm not attracted by femininity. I don't have a very macho-like vision o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/22 02:03 PM
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Nothing to be sorry about ;) I'm not a psychologist so I'm not sure how relevant this is, but I've heard a theory about male touch starvation, which said that it's not only or not always due to sexual problems in adult life. But also due to the fact that many boys don't get enough hugs from their parents during their childhood. Or at least not as much as girls do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/22 12:44 PM
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Yes. I agree with you. That's why I've written that ideas about such behavior being a repressed homo- or bisexuality are not really convincing to me. I mean that the common denominator of the 2 situations I've mentioned are certain forms of male emotionality, which are not really recognized, because we focus too much on men as subjects to ideologies than about men as human beings. Possibly with their own emotional needs though, not always the same as women's or at least expressed in a different …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/22 12:14 PM
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I think, that almost all gay men had this experience, at least once. Your straight mate suddenly starts to seek physical contact with you in a way, which isn't sexual, but also goes beyond what you would call "bro hugs". So you ask yourself, what's happening? Is he gay or bi,but closeted and doesn't know how to tell you? But then it quickly turns out that's not the case. He genuinly needs some (non-sexual) human touch and probably assume as a gay guy you're not gonna judge him or make fun of him…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/10/22 11:21 AM
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I would add, that this is getting really ironic, when people talk about incels. Because the most common reaction to the ideology they produced is: "are you serious? Do you really think women have a ruler in their eyes and measure men and their facial futures everytime they see one? You terrible misogynist! Don't you see women look also at very different things like intelligence and sense of humor etc.?". Ofc people who say that are right, but the funny thing is, incels were not the first to come…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/10/22 05:04 PM
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Nobody is blaming feminism for forced conscription of men anywhere, but for the lack of interest and reaction to this inequality. As well as for hypocrisy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/10/22 12:57 PM
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Yes. Most feminist are against the draft, but the question is never only, what you think about particular problems, but also what's your level of engagement. I'm sure most feminists, at least the serious ones, would say they are againts the draft, when asked. But how much do they talk about it? I know the argument "why should women protest against the draft, when it's a men's problem". But I don't even mean protesting. I mean something as easy as writing an article, especially when you already h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/22 09:56 PM
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The Polish one: https://mobile.twitter.com/ibris_pl/status/1495785047965765642 As to the Finnish one, I've heard about it on Yle Vega (radio) and struggle to find it now in written form, because I don't speak Finnish ;) I know however that the poll was done by USU Gallup institute, so maybe you'd find it, if you are Finnish or know the language ...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/22 09:28 PM
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Yes. As a Polish guy, I can confirm it :) And I've also seen polls from Finland. People were asked whether conscription should be made gender neutral. 50% of men answered the question with yes, but only 25% of women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/22 06:39 PM
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Well, we can see what were the feminist reactions on leaving ban for Ukrainian men. Very few of them showed any interest in their situation or considered being a gender inequality worth debating. The vast majority reacted a little bit like children, who know that they should tidy their room, but don't want to. So they avoid saying anything, which could remind their parents about it. Ofc they know that any "reasons" to draft or conscript only men are either traditional gender roles, discourses, w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/22 06:20 PM
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First of all gay men have all the problems straight men have, apart from those strictly related to heterosexual relationships (like the bias against men, when it comes to child custody after divorce). I'm gay and no one is going to ask me whether I like cock when my country decides to draft me, just like I'm not gonna get special resources for treatment of gender related diseases if some of them don't get enough attention by the scientific world and by the politicians. This list goes on. And to …
/r/MensRights17/10/22 03:49 PM
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That's not the worst stupidity. A Polish newspaper came up with a more revolutionary idea. "Women will win the war" was the headline. The one in Ukraine. You would have thought it was an article about female soldiers. But no. The article was about female refugees who have fled the war 🤡
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/22 07:32 PM
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Yes, I get it, but I mean it in broader sense. Not only as a reply to what you've written, but also in regard to the above mentioned trans experience and other things like the problematic idea of "toxic masculinity".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/22 01:31 PM
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I think there is just no need to describe it in a scientific way. There are certain experiences and phenomena, for which science, even including humanities, lack proper language and terminology,but which exist nonetheless. You can't really define being in love fe. Yes you can say something about the hormones, bodily reactions etc. But you can't find a strictly scientific definition for what love is. It's the same with masculinity/femininity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/10/22 12:53 PM
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This gives strong post-modernism vibes. That's OK, but I think, we are already one step further away and that's exactly the problem OP is describing. The ideologies, which were - like feminism - supposed to criticize the Grand Narratives have become Grand Narratives themselves. They are no longer questioning "objective truths". They ARE THE OBJECTIVE TRUTHS. And as they are that, the preachers of these TRUTHs have no intellectual capacity and in fact no empathy at all to deal with anything which…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 02:36 PM
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It is already determined in the cultures we live in. We usually consider problems the more serious the closer they are related to death or the risk of it. That's why all legislations known to me punish murder more severly than they punish a robbery, even though there might be people who would much rather die than get robbed. And that's also why most people would consider fe. deadly cancer as a more severe problem than the above quoted "orgasm gap". Again on the individual level there are people …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 02:03 PM
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I'm sorry, but that's bullshit. Ofc a therapist/psychiatrist/psychologist has to regard all problems as equal, because some people deal psychologically better with abuse, disability, illness than others do with losing a job. So you obviously can't say "you don't have the right to be depressed, because some people have it much worse than you". This doesn't mean, that there is no hierarchy of problems on the societal level. And that's exactly where the feminist martyrdom is getting dangerous. For …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 01:07 PM
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The most funny thing about feminism is, that it is totally immersed in traditional gender roles. I remember when I was a teenager (now I'm 37), one of the most popular "sexist" ideas was that women love to feel like victims one needs to console and men love to feel like heroes, who don't struggle with anything,even if they do. And that women tend to exaggerate when they talk about their problems, while men tend to play them down. While there are many facts, which could contradict this simplistic…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/22 11:37 AM
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Just like there are straight young guys who like rich "MILFs" :) So I agree with your point. That's not a behavior that women have a monopoly on. Tbh I think there is no behavior one gender has a monopoly on. Many women would immediately react to what we've written with "but women focus on looks too". And that's also true. So indeed, it's more about tendencies and the prevalence of them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/22 10:12 AM
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I really don't know :) But in general, I'm sure almost all lesbians would agree with me, their sexuality is also more similar to the sexuality other women have, than to straight or gay men's one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/22 10:04 AM
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And I might also point out that gay men can also superficially evaluate other men based on financial status--this isn't something unique to women. Both men and women, both gay and straight can evaluate people based on their looks or their financial status. But if we consider the first "sin" to be typically commited by men and the latter typically commited by women, gay men are much more likely to be too much into bodies, than too much into money. There is no difference between straight and gay m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/22 05:46 PM
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This was sarcasm :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/22 04:06 PM
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My answer to a person who says that, would be "feminism has fought for me as a man to be able to show my fragility, weakness and vulnerability, so I express them, when I want to and you,who are trying to shame me for this are just an agent of pAtRiArChY" 😎
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/22 12:38 PM
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"Fragile masculinity"😂 I think it's very interesting how the public discourse in the Anglosphere - and subsequently everywhere else as well - has recently been turned into a "minefield" full of buzzwords always ready to "explode" whenever you make any statement whatsoever, which isn't 100% compatible with the feminist dogma. You don't like feminist misandry = FRAGILE MASCULINITY You think this misandry is negatively impacting innocent men = MALE TEARS You try to point out that many of the proble…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/22 10:17 AM
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Yes! That's why I regard feminism mainly as a modern form of chivalry. Although modern is probably an overstatement :) The societal relations between men and women have always been about what and how can men provide for women. They should give them protection, stability, orgasms etc. The list is being updated over and over again, but that's essentially the same list. With "good old" things like defending women, but also with some new, more "modern" demands like quotas in big companies or "talkin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/22 08:19 AM
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So good to be gay. My ideology as a hardcore MRA is absolutely compatible with my sexuality :) But jokes aside, the hypocrisy of the current gender discourse is something worth pointing out even at the expense of some generalizations. I always feel that most people criticizing "toxic masculinity" in a way, which is in fact criticizing ALL masculinity and all the things men do, don't really imagine this New Man they want to see as a man, who really is, what he decides to be. They imagine him as a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 06:37 PM
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Yes, exactly!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 04:17 PM
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I don't know much about evolutionary biology, but your perspective seems very plausible to me. And I think, that it doesn't contradict mine. The fact that young men quite often bond through provocative banter could indeed be explained by what you said! That's exactly the need to break boundaries. I used to teach 17-19 year olds in a high school (the Polish equivalent of it). Only about one month, because I was just covering for someone. The girls either liked me or they didn't, but they were all…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 03:52 PM
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I'm not sure if I agree with you, because your statement seems too tradcon, too rigid and indeed, as someone has rightly observed, too Jungian to me. Nevertheless, I've upvoted your comment, because I think you are on to smth. But I would put it another way. Without going into nurture vs. nature debate (I always assume it's a combination of both), it is true, that for whatever reason, men tend to communicate and to bond in a different way than women do. In female dominated spaces the atmosphere …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/22 12:12 PM
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You're probably a troll, but I actually agree with you. I don't want the debate about men's rights to turn into some sort of reversed feminism with just the same obsessions. Like regarding all problems one gender has as problems of the other "more oppressed" gender, even when they're not. These protest are about the infringments of basic human rights of women. I respect all men who joined them and I think everybody should. But it doesn't change the fact, that they are about what's happening to w…
/r/MensRights24/09/22 11:06 AM
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It's not so much about them as the minority, but about Putin, who uses the minorities as a pretext. It has happened in Georgia, it has happened in Ukraine. It was on the verge of happening in Moldova. I think that the Estonias don't really want to see,whether it's gonna happen to them also and although I don't live in Estonia, I do live close enough to kinda understand them. But Baltic countries are in the UE and I think that the UE should create some political plan to help Russians who flee the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 06:29 PM
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This is one of the questions you can not easily answer. If you're asking me,whether Poland is free from the most popular stereotype about masculinity in the world,which is "men shouldn't cry", ofc I'm not gonna claim it is. On the other hand, I do feel that showing feelings is for many men much more of a problem f.e. in Anglo-Saxon countries,than it is here. I remember a post from Leftwingmaleadvocates about American men being shamed, when they get hugged by their girlfriends, because apparently…
/r/MensRights23/09/22 05:36 PM
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Mate, could you stop perpetuating stupid stereotypes about Eastern Europe? I see you are from Romania. I really don't know your country, because I've never been to Romania, but I know mine. Poland. The majority of men here are against conscription, unlike women, who are more in favor of it. Since the war in Ukraine began and Ukrainian men were not allowed to leave, most of the guys I know are pissed off at the state of gender equality in modern times. And even those who said things like "women s…
/r/MensRights23/09/22 05:14 PM
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I love this song! The best Metallica ever did, in my opinion. But it was not only this one. Both high culture and pop culture, music, film and literature in the 80s and 90s were full of reflections about war and about men suffering as a result of conflicts. Despite the gender empathy gap, which did exist back then as well, war was regarded as a carnage of young men, which it always was, is and probably will be. Then came THE RELIGION, with it's "women most affected".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 10:55 AM
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As I've written in my comment, the fear of having a growing Russian minority is a very rational one in countries like Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania. And by the way, I know that was not your intention,but the word Russophobia has very often been used and weaponized by the Russian propaganda, which presented Russia as a peaceful country surrounded by the irrational West, which has completely unfounded fears and acts according to them in a way that threatens its security. The first to be called Russ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 09:50 AM
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Phobia is a fear for which there is no reason. I think that there are certain reasons not to be especially enthusiastic about Russia nowadays. This doesn't mean one shouldn't have empathy with Russian victims of the regime (and I regard these men as such).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 08:59 AM
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The real reason, why Estonia doesn't want to give asylum to Russian men, is that they have 20% Russian minority, which is permanently being target by Russian propaganda and thus is a threat to Estonia's security. Especially if you remember that Russian minorities were Putin's casus belli, back in 2014,when the war on Ukraine really has started. So I can understand, that they fear, they might lose control over who is coming. With that being said, her explanation is really bad. And I think we are …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 08:43 AM
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This guy has also been interviewed in Modern Wisdom podcast. Very nice and interesting dude.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 07:01 PM
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Empathy gap and male disposability. 2 keywords, which help understand everything what's wrong in terms of men's human rights. Btw. I don't know if it's just me ... But I cringe kinda ten times more, when women are saying this phrase in the media, than when men do. No one should use it and most people do automatically, without thinking about it. It just gives different vibes,though. In case of men - the vibes of empathy with other groups, in case of women - the vibes of entitlement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 06:22 PM
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I love this idea, largely perpetuated by many white knights, that if you feel insulted, you're part of the problem. And it's not meant just so. It's a half-mystical idea, that certain reactions reveal in one second THE TRUTH about a person. Personally, I don't feel insulted by "Men are trash" bs. I just totally disagree, because I think that dudes rock😎
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/22 01:48 PM
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But you know what? That's exactly what's funny about the whole incel debate! At least since the early 90s was all pop feminism about how men expect women to be replicas of Pamela Anderson Lee. How they make women suffer,because of their beauty standards. How they make them anorexic, how they make them insecure about their bodies etc. This ideas were half true already then, because the fact that men jerked off to playboy pin-ups didn't ever mean they all wanted to have this kind of gfs. But someh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/22 07:17 PM
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Men are as dogs? This means: clever, friendly, loyal, beautiful, kind-hearted, fluffy, strong, funny, joyful and cute? Well, why not :)) /S
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/22 01:10 AM
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This problem has 2 sides. Ofc we are biological beings and pretending we're not is oftentimes counterproductive. But I can imagine not only women expect men to be masculine, but also men expect women to be feminine. The difference between this expectations is, men are nowadays being teached that there is a big difference between dreams and reality. And real women are different than dreams about ideal femininity. Society doesn't teach women the same though, whith the result that some of them want…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/22 03:06 PM
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O.K. It's true. I'm not sure if the term was used 30 years ago, but it certainly wasn't as well known as it is today.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/22 12:39 PM
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His ideas are very good and valid. But I think the name GTM is kinda awkward. "Gender transition" already has its very different meaning, which is probably quite important for trans people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/22 10:13 AM
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As to Ukrainian men: the vast majority of them were not forced to fight. But they were forced to stay behind. Which is also terrible and resulted in many of them being killed in Bucha and elsewhere. Not to mention, what does it tell us about gender equality in 2022. Some people in Western Europe tend not to see it as an indicator. Because they think, "well Ukraine is probably tradcon and that's why things happened there the way they did". That's not true. In fact Ukraine has since long been one …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/22 08:03 AM
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Tbh I don't really want to go into the nature vs. nurture debate, because I'm a sociologist and therefore not competent enough as to the "nature"- part of this discussion. It is certainly misandrist to assume that men as men are naturally inclined to commit violence. Whether there are some biological reasons, why certain types of offenders are predominantly men? That's another question and I really can't answer it, because I'm not an expert. It doesn't matter to me that much either, because what…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 03:03 PM
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I think it's both. Ofc sexual violence is something not only men engage in and it's important to remember about it, when advocating for men. At the same time, there is no point in denying, that certain forms of it are mainly commited by men. Brutal penetrative rape certainly is. When a girl grabs my ass in a club, I can feel angry or shit. But I'm not gonna think, "OMG, maybe she will follow me when I'll be leaving, drag me into the bushes and penetrate me against my will". That's what subconsci…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 02:37 PM
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I love the "vagina pics" story. It shows in a very good way, that modern gender debates, especially when it comes to things related to sexuality, are a real "emperor's new clothes" - situation. Everybody knows, why some men are sending dick pics. Because they are proud of their penises and would like to receive the same kind of pictures from women. Ofc they shouldn't do it, if women don't like it. I think it has something to do with a certain, deep ingrained fear of male, phallic sexuality, whic…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/22 09:22 AM
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I would say Miljöpartiet is just as crazy, when it comes to feminism. Although all political parties in Sweden are feminist and very much so. Apart from SD, but I hope it shouldn't be controversial on this sub, that SD is not the best option. Vänsterpartiet are Swedish tankies in my view. Recently they opposed sending weapons to Ukraine. https://www.di.se/nyheter/klart-bara-vansterpartiet-stallde-sig-emot-svenska-vapen-till-ukraina/ Miljöpartiet seems to be quite reluctant as well, but I would s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/09/22 01:03 PM
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I remember a discussion here on reddit, but on a Polish sub. Someone asked men what kind of sexism against them they experience in everyday life. One of the most upvoted answers contained some interesting points, but the guy, who wrote it ended his comment with smth like: "it's tough to be a man, but it is still nowhere near what women go through, everytime they go out at night". Poland is one of the safest countries in Europe and overall is continental Europe much safer than Britain or the USA,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/22 09:04 PM
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That's true. Mass shootings are a non-existent phenomenon where I live. An epidemic of lonely men however is a problem here as well. But even in the States, probably 99,9% of lonely men are no mass shooters. And some 95 or 90% have no history of any violent behavior whatsoever. Maybe sometimes people who point out, how dangerous this problem can be for society, just want to catch attention of those who don't care. It can be a strategy against the bias societies have. But I also think, that not t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/22 11:09 AM
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You're right, but I think that something has changed. Modern woke leftism and feminism are absolutely compatible with those in power and totally incapable of a real revolt. I'm sure if new Vietnam would happen, we would be assured, that the U.S. army is inclusive and diverse. That it's a place where LGBTQ people and ethnic minorities are welcome. (None of these is wrong. I'm gay myself and I hope that minorities can pursue their dreams if they WANT to join the army). We would also see many pictu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/22 07:32 AM
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I can relate. I'm gay and I don't really care if someone perceives me as masculine or not. I think I'm just a regular dude. No macho, no femme :) I respect feminine gays as they were the first to start revolution and some of them still are very brave being and embracing who they are. With that being said, being gay means for me - first and foremost - being into men. By which I don't mean only sucking cocks,but loving men. The way they think, act, socialize. In fact I can live without sex if I ha…
/r/MensRights03/09/22 01:37 PM
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Tbh I don't buy this theory, that men should be just like women, in order to have less mental health problems. Well, they should be allowed to be as feminine as they wish to. But IF they wish to. When I have a problem, I really don't feel like organizing a pyjama party and crying with my mates the whole night. I want them to do smth together with me. To be there for me. To help me find a solution, if there is one. Talking is also important, but men do talk. They just tend not to dwell on the pro…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 09:17 PM
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The way men and women are socialized plays some role. But tbh, I'm quite cautious, when it comes to social constructivism. Especially the more a problem in question is tied to our biology and our bodies. If there is something traditional societies wanted to restrict it's sexuality. And if there is something they absolutely failed to restrict it's also sexuality. Homosexuality being the best example. It's actually fascinating, when you read old literature, fe the erotic one like Boccaccio or Aret…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 09:31 AM
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I'm gay but I went through a "bisexual" phase. And I can only agree. Btw if gender debate is full of elephants in the room, that's one of the largest ones. Male and female sexuality are very, very different. The fact that we as societies have made sexuality into "equality" question contributes only to more misunderstandings between men and women. I've written it here many times,but I'm absolutely convinced we will never understand "incels", "pick-up artists" ... or male feminist white knights de…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/22 08:46 AM
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And also the plans of our governement to restrict abortion caused the biggest protests in Polish modern history. About 1/4 if not even 1/3 of people you could see there were men. I wonder how many women would react in any kind of way if this or a new governement would really reinstate conscription in the coming years.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 09:41 PM
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That's what I've thought! And I think it may also depend on, what kind of veterans are these. Guys who were drafted or professional soldiers? Men who fought against Hitler or men who fought in Vietnam? Etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 07:20 PM
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I don't know these men and I'm not a psychologist, so I can't be sure. But I think that men who went through a lot of shit have to rationalize it. I'm not a fan of Pierre Bourdieu, but I think he was right, when he claimed that working class men cling to the very traditional visions of masculinity, because that's the only thing they have in terms of a sense of pride. I think it's quite a similar situation. Many veterans just have to believe that their sacrifice was worth it, that it made them mo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 07:07 PM
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Wouldn't the veterans in your family take umbrage with feminists who reduce the war to a problem with toxic masculinity? Because that's exactly the problem. War is both about men being forced to fight, suffer, die. And about men being heroes. None of these facts is really recognized in feminist discourse, which diminishes the significance of men's experience of suffering and can't admit the role men played in shaping the world as it is today.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 05:07 PM
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The most popular responses I’ve heard are the draft and war but men are the ones who only allowed men to fight for the longest time and only allowed women to be nurses or work in the factories back home and are also the ones (mostly) who put the draft into place. Already this statement is quite misandric,apart from being simplistic and anti-intellectual. (I know that's just a quote, so I don't blame you.) Phenomena like war are a product of many different socio-historical and political factors, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 09:44 AM
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Yes, I agree, but I think, that this is a part of the very "traditional" way of showing male nudity. Although it still can be found in new movies or series. What is happening now however, is that it's changing and we can see more male bodies shown both in natural, neutral and erotic way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/22 06:19 AM
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Omg, I don't even know what to say. It's just terrible... This civilian perspective is totally unknown in Poland, not to mention in countries further away from Ukraine. And the male civilian perspective is ofc pretty much non-existent in the media... Especially at the begining of the invasion, they could literally show a shelter where about 40% of people visible on the footage were adult men and comment it as "women and children are hiding in shelters".
/r/MensRights30/08/22 10:12 PM
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I'm interested in men's rights and men's problems since more than 10 years, so things like gender empathy gap and male disposability are nothing new to me. However the way the world reacted - or I should rather say - didn't react to the fate of Ukrainian men was a great shock to me and made me really depressed for quite a long time. And I don't even mean any real actions to help guys in Ukraine to leave the country, which I can imagine, it could have been difficult to undertake. But there was a …
/r/MensRights30/08/22 09:33 PM
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That's true. But there are 3 more things I could say here. 1) This shift from what feminists call "male gaze" to male bodies being shown both in sexual and non-sexual way started in European cinema. Especially in French movies in the 90s. The bodies shown in these movies were conventionally attractive. 2) Hollywood is all about a "reality", which isn't real. I don't know if we should just accept it and treat it like a fairy tale or if the (American) enternainement industry should change accordin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/22 07:26 PM
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You're not the one :) It's just happening and have even been observed in numerous publications about modern pop culture. But tbh I really don't see it as a problem. Quite the opposite. I think it's liberating, because men finally start to understand they're not "the ugly sex". I don't mean it (only) because I'm gay, but also because the idea of male body being functional and strong but unattractive is quite closely tied to male disposability. Which alongside empathy gap is the root of all evil. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/22 05:29 PM
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And most men are probably not emotionally sensitive and kind. Personally, I'm not even mad at those women who don't want emotionally sensitive, kind guys (which again aren't all, just most). This looks kinda misandric to me, although I'm sure it wasn't your intention.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/22 08:48 AM
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Well, there are official classifications of developed countries, but the problem is,most countries in Central and Central-Eastern Europe and also many countries in East Asia or Latin America are classified as such :) In East Asia there are such "underdeveloped" countries as Japan and South Korea. And in Central Europe Austria,Germany and Switzerland 😆
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/22 06:31 AM
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And that's exactly the reason, why I would claim, there is nothing worse than male feminists ;) Not all of them. There are some honorable exceptions. But most of them. I've noticed it many times, that while certain feminist women are open to debate about men's problems (albeit only when it happens on their conditions, like blaming for everything "patriarchy"), feminist men would immediately inform you, that there are no men's problems whatsoever and act as if you were less of a man. A weak silly…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/22 11:22 PM
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Chris Williamson has made a very interesting interview in his podcast "Modern wisdom". It's the episode 511 with Max Dickins,a mental health advocate. The guy doesn't deny that men should talk more about their problems, but he also provides many facts and scientific theories, which show why that's not enough and why the focus on talking as a therapeutical method may in fact be counterproductive. And also why men may have some different emotional needs or cope with their problems in a different w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/22 02:50 PM
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Exactly! 99% of the articles in liberal or leftist press about her party time, remind us that "Finland is one of the most equal countries", yet even there women suffer terrible fate, which is f.e. that they have to explain,whether they've taken drugs on a party, when they happen to be Prime Ministers. The fact that this is the country probably most dependent on conscripts in whole Europe, and that these conscripts are only men, usually isn't even mentioned. Btw. I don't speak Finnish, but I do s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/22 01:28 PM
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But it doesn't matter, because people who they may fall victim to usually also have a dick /s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/22 04:56 PM
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The Iraq War has caused the biggest protests against war since Vietnam. At least here in Europe. Despite the fact that some of the countries where they happened didn''t even participate in the coalition and those which did, didn't send conscripts to fight there. 2.Let's get one thing clear. All casualties of war are tragic. But there is a very, very big difference between a soldier dying in the line of duty and a boy or a young man who has been deprived of his normal life and sent to death again…
/r/MensRights22/08/22 11:49 AM
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OP writes about Poland and other European countries, which have suspended conscription, but consider returning to it after Russian invasion on Ukraine. That's a different thing. The idea that the draft prevents governements from war adventures is just false. Yes, America had to withdraw from Vietnam after protests, but it happened after years, during which thousands of young men had been slaughtered and millions had been living in fear of being drafted. Defending "collateral damage" when advocat…
/r/MensRights22/08/22 09:25 AM
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I'm sorry mate, but this is such a bs! The Draft has not prevented America from military adventurism back in the days. It has only made innocent Americans suffer and has made it possible for the elites to dispose over large amounts of "soldiers". Or I should rather say slaves. And America is America. Poland or any other European country, maybe apart from Britain, doesn't really have to tame its military ambitions, because it hasn't any other than defense.
/r/MensRights22/08/22 08:17 AM
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I don't know why (or maybe I do) but this movie reminded me of the movie Copying Beethoven, where we learn, that the best known Beethoven's works were written with help of a woman, who has never existed :))
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/22 07:19 AM
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Gillette's ad was the funniest crap ever 😂 How to sell your product? By insulting the group it is dedicated to! Normally I wouldn't care much about ads, but this time I felt it was actually a pity that they made idiots out of themselves so badly. I grew up in the 90s, in times when kids watched TV mainly to see the commercials and knew them by heart. So I remember, that Gillette's commercials together with some beer commercials, made me kinda proud that I was gonna be a man someday.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/22 05:41 PM
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Oh! You know Polish punk ;) How come? You're not gonna like this one,I'm sure. But if you look for misandric songs, this is top of the pops :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/22 05:05 PM
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Taylor Swift "The Man" Beyonce "If I Were A Boy" But the most misandric song ever is a one you probably don't know, because it's Polish. Kayah "Testosteron". I can only recommend to watch the clip on YouTube. Men fighting in a boxing ring, violent, animalistic. Women suffering. The lyrics: "you* teach him how to feel with his mind, not with his heart; you want him to believe that love is for sale; you told him that fear is better than respect; so you put a weapon in his hand and you urge him alw…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/22 04:52 PM
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I agree. There is this very widespread idea,that nowadays women are modern and emancipated, whereas men lag behind. It's true when it comes to their own rights. Women are already, where we also should be. They don't let define anyone what they should be and do. And that's O.K. But when it comes to the expectations toward the opposite gender, I think that men are much more open and less tradcon. At least in my country even the most crazy right-wingers are very much in favor of women working in th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/22 11:14 AM
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Yes. You're absolutely right. Lack of nuance is accountable for most problems we have, not only when it comes to things related to gender. One another problem, quite close to this one, is that we live in very politicized times and the only problems that matter in the mainstream are those, which are political. Women's problems with dating, body image etc. are seen as such. By solving them you're not only helping young women, but you also dismantle the patriarchy. Men's problems with dating are no…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/22 10:55 PM
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Armchair psychologist here :) All the debates about "toxic masculinity" had at least one positive outcome. I think we talk about men's mental health more than we did before. The problem is however, we do it only as long as it fits the dogmas of our greatest secular religion. I think I don't have to say which it is. So while I agree, that men should definitely be able to show emotions, cry etc., I think that it's only part of the explanation of the mental health problems they have. And the discou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/22 11:38 AM
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I've read this book and I like it. Especially the fact that she wants to go away from ideology, dogmas to more empathetic approach to current gender debates. But there is one thing I didn't like about this book, though. The author seems to be one of those preoccupied with the masculinity more than with men. She even admits,that she likes her men to protect her. She has the right to prefer whatever kind of men she likes. And I don't say, that people who criticize modern day devaluation of masculi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/22 08:47 PM
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Yes. That's exactly what I think about Jordan Petrrson. He is not the guy I'd want young men to admire, but he is the only one, at least in the Anglosphere, who made his career by listening to young men and having some basic empathy with them and their problems. As to dating: I'm one of those gay guys who went through a bisexual phase. So I used to date women some time ago. It was so fucking difficult! The problem was most women in Poland (and everywhere else in Europe. I know enough people from…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/22 08:30 PM
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Oh! That's interesting. I'm their neighbour, so to say, because I'm Polish. Some of the laws are similar in our countries, due to our shared history, not only in times of communism,but also in times of the Austrio-Hungarian Empire. But in Poland rape laws have always been gender neutral as far as I know. At least since I can remember. The law doesn't mention men or women or which genitals were involved in what way. Rape is defined as forcing someone to sexual intercourse. And sexual intercourse …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/22 01:16 PM
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But with all respect to catwoman, I've always found his friendship, bromance or romance with Robin much more interesting ;)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/22 09:31 AM
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When it comes to super heroes, he is the best one :) But I kinda like Deadpool too. Goofiness and the attitude of not giving a shit has helped men through a lot of shit. So he is a good role model in this sense. I loved such characters when I was a boy. I actually still love them :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/22 09:29 AM
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She used to be in the VVD in the Netherlands. VVD are liberals. Liberals are on the (center) right in Europe. So in that sense she was a right-winger. Now that she lives in the USA, I'm not sure where she stands politically. But I have the impression, that she is one of the people for whom the cause they deffend is more important than current political divisions. So I guess she would speak wherever there is someone ready to listen. I mean it in a good way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/22 06:39 PM
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Yes, I think they have one. It should be there. "Frauen im Krieg" was the name of it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/22 06:16 AM
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Ofc! They wanted to be pro-women so badly, that they actually ended up insulting most Ukrainian women as well with this crap.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/22 05:29 AM
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German-French TV channel ARTE has recently made a documentary about Ukrainian women and the war. You would have thought it was about women soldiers. Or the victims of rape and sexual crimes commited by Russian soldiers. No. It was about "how the war affects women". So how? F.e. There was a story about a refugee woman who lives in Berlin. She used to suffer so much because of the beauty standards in Ukraine :( But now she is "safe". Germans are not as judgmental about how one looks and they are l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/22 11:05 PM
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The reason why MRAs are associated with the right-wingers and with "bad guys" in general are not the words, but the total panic, that once men's problems would be debated a little bit more in the mainstream,the idea of "male privilege" could collapse. Just imagine our societies would pay more attention to such tiny, little problems like suicide rates,instead of believing that the most terrible things happening are gender pay gap", pink taxes, mansplaining and the worst of them all - manspreading…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/22 09:23 AM
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I edited it, because I was requested to do so by the mod.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/22 01:40 AM
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Well I think I already did in my various responses :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/22 12:10 AM
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I didn't say, that men invented all poems. I did say that if someone claims, that the Western civilization has been built by men and therefore men are responsible for all its flaws, then he/she has to accept, that men should be also "hold accountable" for all the achievements of this civilization, according to this logic. Now is this logic bad or good? You say men shouldn't be made responsible neither for wars, nor for poetry. I'm not sure. War was (and still is) the carnage of men. Maybe we sho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/22 12:09 AM
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Yes, you are right. The problem is,that the current understanding of the term "social construct" is just "bad sociology", tbh. In real sociology, outside of ideological dogmas, the theory of "social constructs" says actually, that we are not able to experience nature outside of cultural interpretations of it. In this way many sociologist would f.e. study diseases as "social constructs". They wouldn't mean by this,that there is no AIDS or COVID or that we could get rid of them merely by believing…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/22 11:15 PM
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I don't think I understand the end of your response. "Those people aren't credited with inventing these artforms". ??? As English is not my first language,it's possible that I don't get some nuances behind this sentence,in which case, sorry. But it seems quite nonsense. The artforms I mentioned were invented by people I mentioned. F.e. if you read essays in newspapers today, it's because Montaigne has invented this form in his book "Les essais". And so on with the other names and artforms. These…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/22 10:40 PM
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Yes :) The same in Poland. Most of our poets were also warriors. I'm not saying that being a warrior is more masculine than anything else, but I think this might be the reason, why we don't really have this cliche, according to which being a poet is unmanly. Btw. the first important work of Polish literature are 19 poems written by a father (Jan Kochanowski) to his dead daughter. All about fatherhood, love, trauma and depression after losing the most important person in his life. Nowadays good f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/22 08:12 PM
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Mate, if you trace the history of literature or music in early oral traditions or tribal chants,you can in fact say we don't know much about the gender of people involved. And we can even say more - women most probably played a huge role in keeping and spreading these traditions. However when you look at literature and music in the strict sense of the terms,in fact most of the today known forms and genres were invented or created by men. Epic poem - Homer. Sonnet - da Lentini and Petrarca. Opera…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/22 07:46 PM
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The idea that there is something unmanly in art or culture is happily not that much widespread in my country, but I came across it as well. I wouldn't say that Caravaggio, Dürer, Monet, Pollock etc. were unmanly men, though. In fact they kinda look like "giga chads" to me ;) Even by the most traditional standards. But btw. it's very funny when "we", as modern people, with our modern secular religion - feminism - think, that we have discovered that men don't have to be tough and hard and that the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/22 06:32 PM
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As to people calling you out for the "misogyny" of your point of view, I'm not surprised. I think we are just one step from gayness being declared the ultimate "misogyny". After all we are quite insensitive to female beauty and therefore less easy to manipulate into simp and white knight mentality. Not to mention the most "horrible" aspect of it: despite men being THE hate figure of our times, we still kinda love them 🙂 But jokes aside (although I'm not sure if it is a joke anymore), I feel the …
/r/MensRights03/08/22 10:52 AM
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I like most Gus Van Sant movies. Usually about troubled young men, but always with a lot of empathy. And his Good Will Hunting is probably one of the best movies about men ever made. The young guy - intelligent, but also kinda cocky and overconfident, who learns something about life from an older wise guy. Really beautiful.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 01:05 AM
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I don't think we all are leftists. I'm not. I'm somewhere in the center. I would say my opinions are closer to classical liberalism than to marxism, but I support some of the leftist economic agenda and I'm not a fan of neoliberalism. So I'm a social-liberal in a way. But in European meaning of the word. I'm not American. If I were American, I would most probably lean much more to the left, because I would like the US to be more "European" in terms of public health care etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/22 01:21 PM
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Guys who defend conscription on the forum dedicated to men's rights are totally out of place. There is nothing so fundamentally opposing the most basic human rights of men as the idea that they can be treated as a cannon fodder against their will and forced to kill other people, just because they have more muscles (which not even of all of them have) and a dick.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 09:05 AM
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Austrias Minister of Defence is a woman, which makes the feminist idea that draft is something men force other men to do kinda less valid. No. Military service, wherever it still is compulsory is what politicians no matter their gender force only men to do. With the litte exception of lands like Israel, Norway, Sweden where the politicians force women as well.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 06:40 AM
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I'm not Australian. But I've seen some of the films this guy has made. Nice dude, but a tradcon. His film where he literally supports the leaving ban for men in Ukraine made me cringe so bad.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 06:32 AM
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Yes, but it also depends on what kind of a group this would be. I've seen some documentaries about such groups in Scandinavian TV and it looks like many of them were similar to the mythopoetic men's movement. And that's too esoteric and new age to me. Other groups shown in these documentaries were basically groups of male feminists complaining about patriarchy. Such group exists also in Poland and it has even gained some popularity through media. But I will certainly stay away from it. Because a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/22 06:29 AM
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I think this post is interesting, but I can understand your general criticism, because I don't want "male advocacy" to become some kind of reverse feminism either. With that being said, keep in mind what is the current state of gender debates around the world and especially in the anglosphere. The dominating ideology, which I'd much rather call a religion, claims that all..., absolutely all problems have a gender aspect and that none or almost none of them have any equivalence across the aisle. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/22 10:59 PM
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Men with disabilities are allowed to flee. I don't know how all this work in practice and I can imagine that some men with less severe health problems might have troubles getting out. But at least the law says they have the right to leave the country.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 03:19 PM
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I think police cares much about the first one. There have been well known actions against trafficking and organized crime. Which is good, because these are quite terrible things. Also about the second one. But the third one seems to be taken less seriously, indeed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/22 02:16 AM
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Oh, I didn't know that, but it seems plausible, because most brothels in Poland are full of British tourists and I even wondered whether they didn't have them in the U.K. ;) So are strip-clubs. Though f.e. pimping is illegal here as well. I think it is illegal everywhere,where prostitution is semi-legal, because that's what essentially makes Germany,the Netherlands etc. different to the rest of Europe. You can have a brothel, like you can have a restaurant there. In feminist paradises up north h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/22 08:11 PM
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Well, prostitution IS legal in some countries. In Germany,the Netherlands, Belgium,Austria, Switzerland. And semi-legal in many other countries including Britain, Finland, France, Italy, Poland etc. But ofc everywhere, even in Germany which is the country usually associated the most with legal brothels, it is seen as smth shamefull. Something only sexist and in all ways terrible men can enjoy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/22 07:51 PM
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Yes. Men have emotional needs. Who knows, maybe even more so than women? Just look how devastated many men are after divorce! Or think about what crazy deeds many young men are ready to accomplish for women they love. I've even read some psychologists claiming, one of the reasons,why men tend to rescue their loved ones before they rescue themselves, when some shit happens, is that they'd rather die than risk living without people they love. With that being said I don't think there is any point i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/22 07:41 PM
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Ofc, mate. I'm not the kind of guy who would say it's homophobic not to like dicks when you're straight. That wasn't my point.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 07:39 PM
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As I'm one of the guys who has written here a comment, let me explain it to you. I couldn't care less about your criticism. I just don't agree. I think men are beautiful and so are their dicks. No matter if big or small. I'm gay. If you consider it being weak and sad you'd rather work on your homophobia.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 06:50 PM
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I can't think of anything more beautiful than a penis. Or any other part of male body, actually.😏
/r/MensRights09/07/22 05:54 PM
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I'm not sure. I think that slut shaming is neither rooted in misandry nor in misogyny, but rather in conservative views about family and gender roles. Women were responsible for giving birth and caring for children. Men for bringing money and protecting the mother and the child. And they were shamed for everything which seemed like they failed in doing so. Women for being promiscuous and enjoying sex "instead of" being a mother. Men for being Peter Pans without a good job,not able to provide. Bt…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/22 10:47 PM
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I'm interested in men's issues since more than 10 years. The empathy gap and gynocentrism are things I realised even much earlier, when I was a boy. Yet it still can happen to me once in a while, that I'm shocked to learn about something I didn't have the slightest idea about! I remember the post from about 1 month ago about teen boys dying from almost all kinds of diseases at much higher (and shockingly high) rates than teen girls. No matter how much it is related to biological differences, it'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/22 08:18 PM
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You make it seem as though there were 2 options. The draft or no army. There are professional armies and in case of Latvia there is also NATO. Even Ukraine, although it's not part of the alliance, which makes its situation harder, is currently engaging mainly professional soldiers. It even planned to make the army fully professional not long time ago, before this war. And that although it actually already was under attack since 2014, (it wasn't a full scale war back then, but people were fightin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/22 05:50 PM
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"But I agree with other posters: an anti conscription stance is like anti world hunger, pro world peace stance: We all want it, but it is so utterly unrealistic that it's simply not an acceptable argument if you live next to countries like Russia" That's just not true. Many countries which are close to Russia and have been part of the communist side of the Iron Curtain don't have mandatory conscription. Including my own - Poland. The same goes for Slovakia, Romania, Czech Republic, Hungary, Bulg…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/22 04:57 PM
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Yes, I honestly think much of the popularity of feminism is due to the fact, that it actually reenacts the "good old" gender roles under the disguise of progressivism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/07/22 01:27 AM
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ibris_pl/status/1495785047965765642
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/22 10:54 PM
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No one would get the refugee status because of him wanting to dodge the conscription in a democratic country. Ofc these are international, not Polish, rules. But Latvian men can come to us,in order to work or study. There is no problem with that as both our countries are in the UE.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 09:45 PM
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That's true, but Denmark has male only conscription and what they have in Sweden is, as far as I know, based mostly on volunteers. Though if they would restore conscription, which is possible, it would most probably be gender neutral. But Finland is quite conservative when it comes to things related to the army and defence. I remember my shock, when I was in Finland and people told me that those who haven't served in the army are treated as cowards and/or traitors. And it's smth you absolutely s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/22 05:33 PM
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Finland is not tradcon. Neither is Switzerland. Both countries have much worse conscription rules than what they came up with in Latvia.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 04:53 PM
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I love how they had a special comission in Finland, which gathered to debate gender equality in conscription. This was somewhere in december. So many people thought, maybe they were finally gonna make it gender neutral. It turned out they debated how to make it easier for the ladies to get in if they wish so and how to make the army more attractive to women. They didn't even really mention the fact that young men are forced to serve and that the country is the most dependent on male conscripts i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/22 02:57 PM
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Yes! I agree! I don't know the situation in Latvia, but I know some other European countries and feminist activists are quite silent everywhere. Even when you read what they've written about Ukraine... Apart from very few exceptions, which actually prove the rule, they managed to analyse this conflict from all possible gender perspectives. From women serving in the army, through transwomen trapped in the war zone, to Putin's toxic masculinity versus modern (?, btw) masculinity of Zelensky. They …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/22 02:33 PM
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Well I oppose all conscription, although I live in Poland. As most Polish men do. Not women though. The polls have shown they are largely pro. Ofc as long as it's only for men.🥴 P.S. To be fair, it seems rather to be true for older women in small towns. Most women I know don't think this way. They either are against or pro, but for both genders. Most doesn't mean all, however. So I already had some debates which made me furious😁 Nevertheless the phenomenon is quite interesting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/22 01:43 PM
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Masculinity and femininity belong to the phenomena, which you can't define, but which DO EXIST nonetheless. Just like love, friendship, happiness etc. You can define love in 1000 ways, however there doesn't exist any good definition, which would tell what really counts as love and what doesn't, in which way is it different than friendship or affection, where and when it begins and ends. Still we all know what love is. It's the same with masculinity. Many people have their own ideas about, what i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/22 04:55 PM
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"I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if we see gay male sexuality being labelled as some kind of 'misogynist' patriarchal construct within the next few years." I think it is bound to happen :) It is already quite common that young "zoomer" gays interiorise the feminist demonisation of male sexuality and/or that "woke" fanatics regard "white gay men" as a priviliged group (which in their vocabulary means inherently bad and having to apologise for its existence). But the idea of everything being mer…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/22 07:54 PM
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I hope many of the guys debating there will soon discover this sub 😁 There are many men (and women) on MensLib who have smth interesting to say, but they are limited by MensLib's feminist dogmas. Once I've actually managed to write smth which was against their religion. I've criticised the idea of "social construct" as a universal explanation to everything. But the reason they didn't ban me was probbly that I wrote about me being gay and concerned where this idea may lead to, when it would start…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/22 06:24 PM
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Yes. But I still think she is dangerous. And I mean it as one whom she managed to entrance. Also with her sex-positive message, because she has some interesting ideas about male sexuality and the demonisation of it as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/22 02:06 PM
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I used to like Camille Paglia, but I don't like her anymore. She is one of those advocating for (traditional) masculinity more than for men as human beings. I'm not entirely against this discourse, because I think men need to have smth to be proud about and some idea of why their life makes sense. Even if some of the things they believe in may be conservative. I'm not the kind of progressives who can't stand anything more traditional. But the point where my acceptance ends is when people defend …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/22 12:55 PM
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David Benatar's "The Second Sexism" is quite good. You can also read some of feminist books, which criticised feminist misandry and wanted to include men in their discourse. Books from authors like Elisabeth Badinter, bell hooks or Liz Plank. I don't remember the titles, but you'll easily find them. I have to say quite frankly, I appreciate them being empathetic towards dudes, but these books aren't flawless. At least in my opinion. I agree with some of the ideas, but disagree with much of what …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/22 05:32 PM
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Witaj :) Również mi miło. Chyba jest nas więcej, z tego co pamiętam ;)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/22 05:01 PM
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Most men who I've talked about men's issues are former feminists, who used to be genuinly interested in equality (not for the sake of getting laid or being a white knight), but realised,that's not really what feminism stands for. At least not mainstream feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/22 04:22 PM
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I like one guy, YouTuber, who is Italian and makes films in Italian. As there probably are Italians or Italian-speaking people here, maybe it's O.K. to mention him, although his channel is not in English. His name is Marco Crepaldi. He is not a political streamer in the strict sense, but he talks a lot about the society and especially sexism against men, radical feminism and problems of young men, without being reactionary or conservative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/22 09:03 AM
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No problem, that's not an intrusive question :) I think that men understand other men much better and appreciate male sexuality much more. I know that it sounds like a cliché, but on the other hand it is quite logic. With 2 bodies of the same kind misunderstandings are less likely to happen. Ofc people are different, so no rule applies to 100%. There might also be some cultural differences. Reading reddit I came to the consideration, that US-Americans seem to be more prudish and more influenced …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/22 08:07 PM
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Your story shows that the constant male-bashing and the demonisation of male sexuality is not as harmless as some people think it is. It actually has a very bad impact on many young men and their emotional well-being.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/22 06:40 PM
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All men I cuddled with in a intimate way usually had an erection or semi-erection. Sometimes the situation changed into more sexual one, sometimes it didn't. Anyway that's how men work. Nothing to feel dirty about. She should understand guys better if she wants to have a good relationship. I often see men kinda apologising for their sexuality, feeling just like you said - dirty - and wanting not to come across as "too horny". I honestly think that's some negative impact of metoo-feminism or the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/22 06:16 PM
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There is this idea that female sexuality is complicated and nearly mystical and male sexuality is simple and mechanical. That's not true. Some sexologists claim it's actually the other way round. The relations between bodily and psychological reactions are especially complicated in men. That's why so many, even young guys have the opposite problem and can't get a boner in intimate situations for purely psychological reasons. I don't have much experience with women,because I'm gay, but I guess ma…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/22 04:51 PM
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I don't like the official ideology of MensLib. But I do notice, that there are some guys there who have some interesting thoughts to share. Even those who identify as feminists. I'm not a feminist and I'm not a big fan of what feminism is nowadays (=a secular religion),but I also have a very pragmatic approach to men's issues. Whoever wants to push things forward, talk about men's mental health etc. is welcome. There are feminists - men and women - who have good intentions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/22 12:42 PM
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That's because feminism no longer is an ideology. It is a religion. The main dogma of this religion is that women are always oppressed (even when they aren't and even where actually men are disadvantaged). And that all universal, human problems have a gender aspect, which makes them actually women's problems (you know: men are dying at higher rates from COVID, women most affected; men dying, losing their limbs and being forced to stay in a war zone, women who flee the war most affected etc). Who…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/22 08:19 AM
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I'm happy to hear at least scientists care. You're right about the media. It's just disgusting, I feel like watching some intoxicated people while being sober. It's some kind of "emperor's new clothes" - situation, which waits for someone to just say that "the king is naked". ,
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/22 07:42 PM
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What was this r/misandry? I didn't know it. A sub which gathered examples of misandry, in order to criticise them or a sub which celebrated misandry?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/22 07:06 PM
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Reading this sub is sometimes quite depressing. But very interesting at the same time. I'm sure, that if you would ask random people, which gender is more at risk of such diseases, 90% of people would say women and girls. That's also a problem. This lack of awarness. I'm sure many parents of boys would be shocked, if they knew. Most people don't know. Even I, although interested in men's issues, didn't know that. I knew some diseases are more prevalent in boys and men. It seems like MOST of them…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/22 02:53 PM
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I'm curious, how much research modern medicine does, in order to overcome this difference and prevent young men from getting these diseases.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/22 02:44 PM
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I think men should be able to open up and the society/women/other men should listen when they open up. That's very important. However simplistic and full of taboos feminist narrative might be, it actually has helped to raise awareness of some of the issues men face. What I don't like about this narrative is the idea, that all of the problems men have would disappear, if men were more like women. When I feel depressed, I do expect my male friends not to be stupid machos who pretend, that they hav…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/22 05:31 PM
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Yes. I remember, when in 2 countries I know something about - Poland and Sweden - happened the same thing. A well- known male feminist has been accused of harassement in the the wake of metoo. In both cases on highly questionable grounds and in both cases with the result of their whole career being destroyed. In both countries many people on the right reacted with "hahaha, hypocrites, so that's how you treat women on the left". There was, however, one difference. The Polish guy has never been a …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/22 08:16 PM
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My opinion on traditional gender roles is: they're good when they serve YOU. They're bad when they're used by someone else, in order to force you to do smth or be the way you don't want to be. There are many men, who say having this mindset has helped them through a lot of shit. That's my biggest problem with the idea of "toxic masculinity" as the explanation of all mental health issues men have btw. I can also imagine, that guys who risk their lives to protect and save people (like firemen etc.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/22 08:32 AM
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I live in Poland, so the war is quite close to my home. When all this started I had some kind of mental breakdown. I was 't even thinking about myself so much. I was constantly thinking about all the men I liked and loved (I'm gay). I imagined them being forced to suffer or even die. I imagined guys who wouldn't even hurt a fly being forced to kill other people. These images were haunting me to the extent,that even when I was walking through the streets of my city and saw dads with their childre…
/r/MensRights18/05/22 09:54 AM
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What's positive is that many gays are getting fed up with this men bashing, which is now so much in vogue.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/22 03:37 PM
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Yes. That's really incredible and absolutely maddening. I'm not the kind of guy who likes to claim, that things were better before, but when it comes to this, I'm really not sure if it's not the case. Ofc during the last two great wars no one really thought about men as men and about men's issues as men's issues, because this was before the gender debates started off. But at least all the terrible things young (and not only young) men went through, were treated as human problems and described as…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/22 05:53 PM
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I have quite an ambivalent attitude to this problem: I would call myself "anti-woke", because I think that "woke left" is anti-intellectual, driven by fanatism and even dangerous. Not only when it comes to men's rights or gender debates. I'm not really a left winger. I'm liberal, which is a different thing in Europe and usually means you are progressive, but more centrist and not marxist. But I think that all progressives have totally abandoned men and men's issues. And whatever one may think ab…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/22 05:14 PM
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I think that's because Romanian, although a Romance language, has been somewhat influenced by Slavic, mainly South-Slavic, languages. This word exists in Croatian, Serbian etc. It's probably why you also have it :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/22 10:11 AM
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As usual the problems men have are partly traditional, partly modern. What's traditional here is the idea,that women are loved for who they are. Men are loved for what they do. What's modern is the idea, that we should "empower" women and girls, but men and boys have so much power in the society, that they don't need it. Which is bullshit as we all now. I remember hearing about Proud Boys for the first time. I thought it was some kind of scouting organisation, which wanted to give boys more conf…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/22 10:06 AM
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Yes. I agree. I'm not sure, but this may partly have something to do with women's sexuality. Gay men have the same (male) sexuality as straight men,only the object of it is different. So just like most straight men would appreciate different kind of breasts and vaginas also for the way they are shaped and look like,most gay men would appreciate different penises. Women are said to be less "visual" when it comes to sex. So maybe they actually think they can comfort men, when telling them that dif…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/22 01:08 AM
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Yes, it's unhealthy and btw. if someone (and there are such "woke" gays) thinks misandry is only about straight men, he is delusional. It's ultimately about all men. And things like those described by OP are the best evidence for it being the case. I don't know how someone can defend gay people, while actually stating they're into some worse kind of human species and bodies not worth liking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/22 12:33 AM
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As a gay man I feel that men's bodies are much more beautiful than women's bodies. As a man with a male body I also think they are the ones which it is much nicer to have. Women who say things you mention are just jealous ;) Look at some sex-specific qualities of human bodies. Menstruation is painfull and inconvenient. So is also pregnancy. But erections,pollutions, ejaculations are all pleasurable. Being able to piss standing up is convenient and there is some evidence that it also is pleasurab…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/22 11:30 PM
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Well, not only. There are evidences of such appreciation in ancient Rome as well. But also in the Renessaince, Early Modernism. Also in the XIX century.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/22 10:36 PM
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Me too. I think the number of gay men interested in men's issues is growing. Not to mention gay men who are fed up with modern feminism. This number is growing even faster😁
/r/MensRights08/05/22 10:13 AM
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Yes. I agree with you. I mean, the topic of male touch starvation is very important almost everywhere for various reasons. So that's not a American thing. But being ashamed to be cuddled by a female partner is something I've never heard of from my heterosexual mates in Poland. In fact I see quite often in public spaces, in cafes, cinemas women hugging their partners, men leaning their heads on women's shoulders or women who let their boyfriend lie on their lap. It may be more common the other wa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/22 09:41 AM
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That's absolutely true. But I do feel also, that at least one thing is worse than it used to be. Pop feminism in the media,entertainement, pop culture. It is hardly a new phenomenon, but it's getting more and more misandrist (and absurd). I remember the 90s and back then it was more about "girl power" and criticising machismo, not all men and everything they do. Now it's getting totally crazy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/22 01:34 AM
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Yes, absolutely. Why not? I'm pro-choice. And this whole debate applies to Poland very much. Because thousands of young men gathered alongside women on the biggest prostests in Poland's history against a very similar political manoeuvre, which was supposed to restrict the right to abortion in November 2020. Now many of them are quite disappointed,that the liberals, the left and feminists in Poland don't even mention their problems, which the war in a neighbouring country and debates about conscr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/22 12:47 PM
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I love this idea😍
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/22 10:53 AM
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O.K. But what the OP has written is valid for men's rights in general, even if he was inspired by current events in the U.S.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/22 10:45 AM
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The majority of women in Switzerland voted for conscription, but how was that with men? Did the majority also vote in favor of it? In my country (Poland) the conscription is suspended and if it would be reactivated, then by the parliament and/or the president. However there was a opinion poll made about it, somewhere in January 2022. The vast majority of men (2/3) were against conscription. The majority of women (about 60%) were in favor. So in a system like the one in Switzerland, women as a gr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/22 07:18 AM
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Yes. In the States. Elsewhere many countries have conscription and in most European countries (like in mine, Poland) it's just suspended. And while the politicians aren't eager to bring it back, because they know, they would lost many voters, the situation in Ukraine opened a debate about it in Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Sweden, Czech Republic etc. There are also some democratic (and some of them also very "equal") countries, which still have it. Like Finland, Switzerland, Denmark,Lithuani…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/22 05:10 PM
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I think there usually is much overlap between them, though not in the center, but at the extremes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/22 12:09 PM
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I agree. I'm Polish and I try to help women who came to us as refugees. Donate money, buy some toys for the kids etc. And I fully understand women who came to Poland to protect their children. But sometimes, when I see single women enjoying their lives and drinking latte, while men and boys as young as you are trapped in Ukraine, I have a weird feeling. I'm glad they're safe. But I can't help thinking smth about it is just not O.K.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 03:27 PM
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And I don't think that there is any country in Europe which exempts gay men from conscription. Certainly not Ukraine.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 03:10 PM
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Mate, I've seen your comments history and you seem to be just trolling this forum and hating men to the extent, that you dare saying bs like this to a 18yo boy, who assuming from his post history is from Ukraine. Aren't you ashamed? And don't use LGBT people as your tool in discussion. I'm a gay man. First of all no one forces me to a conversion therapy and no one gives me exempt from the moblisation in case of war either. I'm single now so it's only hypothetical. But actually, in case of war, I…
/r/MensRights04/05/22 03:08 PM
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Some men created those rules, all men are suffering under them. Women who ruled the countries waged wars as well, yet never decided to draft women instead of men. And that's not only a thing from the past. Finland is one of the most feminist countries with the governement largely recognised as the most feminist in the world. But somehow it didn't change the fact that Finland is also the most dependent on its conscripts out of all European countries. Amd these are men! The rules were designed in …
/r/MensRights04/05/22 02:45 PM
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Are you ironically imitating some of the simplistic feminist rhetorics about it or do you really think it's a good explanation and an apropriate one, when talking about men's rights?
/r/MensRights04/05/22 02:12 PM
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I honestly ask myself, whether they would care today. I think they wouldn't. At least not to the same extent. I think there would be some female-volunteers, which would allow the media and many people to say, it's false to claim only young men are dying. There would be some woke discussions about, let's say, the acceptance of gender non-conformity in the army or the queerness of Western leaders fighting the toxic masculinity of the enemy. And while men and boys would be dying,suffering and losin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/22 10:40 PM
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I actually upvoted both comments, because I kinda agree with you both. Sex is not everything and men's issues are not (only) about having sex. That's true. But many sex-workers say, the idea that men come to them just to get a blowjob is false. Many of them seek affection, want just to hug or cuddle with them. Not only to fuck. Though as to the sexual part of it, I think there is no point in denying that young men are horny. It doesn't mean they are primitive or animalistic. It's part of being h…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/22 09:49 AM
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This is a very widespread idea. When women have dating problems, it's because men are not good enough for them. When men have dating problems,it's because they're not good enough for women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/22 08:14 AM
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I think the legislators in Ukraine didn't pass this law, which was supposed to force men to come back. I don't know if they are not going to pass it later. But as for now, I think, men can stay where they are. But I agree with you. And it's not only in Ukraine men are supposed to fight, die or at least be banned from leaving in case of war. So this is a very important topic. Maybe even the most important one. It's about the right to stay alive and decide about your own body. What else can be mor…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/22 11:16 AM
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I agree 100% Btw the whole logic behind this idea is crazy. As though hating other people was not allowed only when it can potentially end with (physical) violence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/22 11:05 AM
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I'm not American and don't know enough about American politics. But in general conservatives all over the world have realised that the left has abandoned men as a group completely, so they try to fill this void. Some of them may have good intentions or contribute positively to the debate, but one has to be very careful with them. F.e.: I've been a fan of Camille Paglia. She's not conservative but appeared in conservative or center-right media in Europe, Australia and North America many times. I …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/22 10:01 PM
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The dangerous thing about incels is that they radicalise on the internet and sometimes join radical right-wing groups. With that being said, I also think that the problem is blown out of proportion. A little bit like all other moral panics. Young people get not enough attention from their parents, teachers etc., but it's always something else to be blamed. VHS in the 80s, video/computer games in the 90s and 00s. Now social media and groups of radicalised virgins out of which some % is really cra…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/22 06:48 PM
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Tbh I wanted to say smth else, although what you say is also true. I mean all the male bashing in the media, stems from the idea, that misandry may be wrong, but women are not going to act on it as violently as men act on misogyny. The typical argument is: "ok, you don't like the fact, that young women turn into menhaters on twitter and tik tok, but do they go and kill men like some incels have killed women?" And as women are the primary victims of sexual violence, they have somehow the right to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/22 05:16 PM
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I think you are also confusing the terms. Gay and bisexual people are also XY/XX born, although they are not straight. Maybe you've meant CIS people. Because that's the name for people, who are XY/XX and identify with the sex they were born with.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/22 04:36 PM
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That's a really sad post. And what's even more sad, the problems you describe usually don't have any impact on bad guys and douchebags. These are usually the best and most valuable men, who feel bad because of all these things. But now the more positive part of what I wanted to say😉 Tbh with you, I love to be a dude. Everything about it. I wouldn't like to be a women. Well, maybe when I think about war in Ukraine and conscription laws (nearly) everywhere else. Apart from that, no. Being a guy is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/22 08:00 PM
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I think the reason, why many men come up with such arguments is that when terrible things happen, you think about your loved ones more than about yourself. So many men are more terrified, that something could happen to their wives than they are thinking about the equality and their rights. When I talk with young men, who are single (or gay and have no wife or children to protect) they usually are totally angry, that the society treats men like that. When I talk with guys who have women and child…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/22 10:47 AM
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This is so true!!! It's a different story, when we see mothers with children, because then it's just about saving them and whoever can do it, does it. It can be a Afghan father, who is stronger and has better chances to survive the long way to Europe. It can be a Ukrainian mother, who is allowed to leave. In such cases, usually both parents decide, that one of them has to bring children to safety. But as to the rest, I agree with you 100% The main reason, why I've always supported women's rights…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/22 06:30 AM
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I'm really happy to see, that someone thinks the way I do. I'm Polish and very glad, that my country helps Ukrainian refugees. I force myself to see it from a different perspective. I know, that I, as a Polish man, have it thousand times better than Ukrainian women. I know also, that probably most Ukrainian men are happy, that at least their wives, girlfriends and children are in Poland, Romania, Slovakia etc. Especially those, who fight on the front want to be sure their loved ones are safe. An…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/22 07:46 PM
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I sincerily hope those 14 people, who voted in favor of male only conscription were trolls.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/22 04:31 PM
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You should be happy. That's better for you and your mental health😁
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/22 12:43 PM
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😉 No, we're both Polish,but I was not op
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/22 07:52 PM
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Yes, I absolutely agree with you and I think that's also what S.Krakowski says or at least tries to say. Because you know ... If you want to come with a massage, which is not generally approved or outside of mainstream or what you in Sweden call "åsiktskorridoren",you have to be careful with words. So he probably is. But tbh this was the first thing I've read which at least tried to understand, instead of condemnig and demonising. Virgin shaming is a very big problem, indeed. And the lack of emp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/22 05:31 PM
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These answers are totally irrelevant to what I've written. Yes. War is toxic. But it is no invasion from Mars. It is smth all countries take into consideration and all countries have legislation for. The idea that this legislation should be totally incompatible with how our societies are constructed is false. The war suspends some of the democratic rights of the citizens, but it doesn't bring us back to the state of nature. As I said, if you think that gender equality should apply only for the g…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/22 05:19 PM
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Sorry, mate, but answers like yours are just toxic. Ofc it's the reason, why society WAS organised this way and also the very reason for gender roles to have emerged. But everything, that has happened in terms of gender emancipation and the emancipation of an individual during the last 60 years, happened PRECISELY, because we didn't want our biology to determine our lives. So the only democratic way to proceed now is to have a sincere discussion about, what do we actually prefer. If we prefer ou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/22 04:46 PM
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No, I really don't think so. He writes there about some guys,who really go down the rabbit hole and join radical right wing organisations and plan violent attacks. Obviously he treats them as a problem, which they are. But he is also very much against this idea, that all men who struggle with being alone or even are bitter can be equated with those dangerous and radical groups and says that the only way to prevent such guys from joining them is to listen to their problems, before they radicalise…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/22 01:54 PM
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His name is Stefan Krakowski. Sounds quite Polish😁 Maybe he is of Polish descent. Anyway he has written a very good book. "Incel. Om ofrivilligt celibat och en mansroll i kris". Very interesting. The guy has really empathy with the young men he works with. And in the begining of this book he also writes about other problems young men face. I was actually quite surprised a book like this could have been published in Sweden. But he even was a guest in some podcasts. Including programs in SR, which…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/22 01:44 PM
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Yes,I know. I think no European countries are sending conscripts to a warzone, apart from Russia, obviously. Though if you look at what's happening in Finland, many guys want to serve or at least don't protest (although many of them are angry, that women have no obligations and can proceed with their lives, when they are in the army). But shit happens. Some guys are bullied, some have injuries. There are even cases of suicide. I think that the very idea, that all men should be ready to fight and…
/r/MensRights26/04/22 10:12 AM
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Well, that's not really the case in Poland. I mean, just like everywhere, guys from little villages are less preoccupied with their looks and they tend to think it's what liberals in big cities really care for. That's not very different in other countries I know, like Sweden and Germany. But in general Poland is a little bit like East Germany. Women have been working here long before they did in the western european countries. If you look at the (West) German discussions about creches, they woul…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/22 10:06 AM
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If any of the Nordic countries takes gender equality seriously, it's Norway. Sweden is a male bashing utopia land (although smth is changing there, which is good). Denmark is eager to make fun of Sweden, because of its gender craze, but that's all. Finland is the country in Europe, which relies the most on the conscripts, when it comes to defence. Only male conscripts, ofc. No comment. I don't like the fact, that you have draft in Norway, but at least it's gender neutral.
/r/MensRights26/04/22 09:40 AM
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No problem,mate😉
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/22 10:20 PM
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Well, I can only agree ;) But not only athletic guys can be sexy. I think men should be more confident about themselves and their bodies. It really is a surprise to me,how often guys, especially shy guys, think that they're ugly, when they're absolutely good looking dudes. I remember an interview with a Swedish psychiatrist, who helps incels and his observation was that the majority of them look quite ok and some of them are even very handsome. Yet they believe they are terribly ugly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/22 10:19 PM
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Either you didn't understand what I mean or I don't understand you now🤔
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/22 09:53 PM
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I wouldn't call it a shift, because hypocrisy is the real core of modern feminism, especially media and pop feminism. You would hardly find a guy nowadays (maybe with the exception of incels or some really radical hard core right-wingers), who is critical towards feminism, because he is against its most fundamental goals like protecting women from sexual or domestic violence or achieving a more equal and fair society. What makes many men bitter about the current state of gender debates is exactl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/22 05:27 PM
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As a Polish guy, I can say it sadly is an old expression used in Polish. Although I agree it shouldn't be used anymore. In fact I hear it or see it much, much less often than 10 or 20 years ago. Btw. as a gay man I also strongly disagree with the idea, that men are less attractive😅
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/22 02:35 PM
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Yes and no, I would say😉 NO: because you can only compare what's comparable. Female gender roles are criticised at least since de Beauvoir, if not since Virginia Woolf. Male gender roles, even within feminism, since late 80s with the emergence of Men's studies and/or the shift from Women's studies to Gender studies. Outside feminism - since few years, when feminist discourse has become so present in pop culture, that men begin to have opinions about their situation and the hypocrisy of some of t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/22 03:39 PM
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The answer is easy and is the very reason for such subs like this one to exist. The emancipation from gender roles has been focusing on women only or at least predominantly. For various reasons. Because the biggest factor to drive this change was feminism and for all good things it has achieved, it was always about women, not men. Because people tend to have more empathy with women than with men. Because there are some women, who would like to eat the cake and still have it. Because there are al…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/22 08:34 AM
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Oh, Guardian! Who could have thought😂 Thanks for the link😉
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/22 10:55 AM
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What??? OMG? I didn't know that? But do they want to abolish jail sentences for less serious crimes or for things like murder?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/22 10:28 AM
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Thank you for this link. It's very interesting, but also very sad.
/r/MensRights14/04/22 07:25 AM
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Yes, the hero of our "feminist" times is ofc a sexy, independent woman in her 20s and 30s, not women in their 80s😂 That's why I often see this manic idealisation and celebration of womenhood as some kind of sexual ritual.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/22 01:09 AM
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I would be angry as well. I'm gay and single. If I would have someone, however, I wouldn't be able to bring him to safety and turn back to him after war. We would be both forced to whatever our governement would decide to force us. And the only woman I could help this way - my mother - will soon be too old to start new life abroad without my help, so she would also have to stay because of the ban (which btw happened with many older women in Ukraine as well). As to women: those I spoke to, did ca…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/22 12:29 AM
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Absolutely! But I think that the time of such idiocies is really coming to an end. I think, that young men are more and more aware of the fact, that they also are disadvantaged in many ways and they want to talk about it. Also many young women are getting tired with feminism, which focuses only on women. They may still be a minority within this movement, but it's important to see them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/22 09:34 PM
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Tbh my greatest concern is that men still can be forced to fight, suffer and die. Whether someone says "thank you" is a secondary problem. But there is something to it. I mean, I used to downplay the misandry in the media, although I hated it so much, because I thought: "well, that's the craze of our times, but at least men live much better lives than back in the days, when men were sent to die in the fields of Normandy or in Vietnam". Now I see, that when shit gets hard, they're put aback to th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/22 09:16 PM
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My general opinion about men's rights is: men must stop waiting for anybody, including feminists, to solve their problems. They must start to talk about them on their own. This problem however is a different one. Men wouldn't ever like to talk about it outside of anonymous internet spaces, because talking about all of this would seem like a lack of empathy toward women or a wish to drag them into the dirt they have to deal with (like conscription). It is also quite natural, that if shit like war…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/22 09:03 PM
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Well, they focus pretty much on the fact, that men usually don't want to seek help, when they are depressed, because they fear they could be judged or deemed weak. It's quite hypocritical at times, because they make it seem as though men would only fear other men, whereas most of the expectations men want to live up to come from women. It's also quite one-dimensional, because there's too much talk about crying and sharing the problems with others (although it's not fully irrelevant!), too less u…
/r/MensRights13/04/22 08:03 PM
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I agree with you 100% My favorite sub is therefore r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates, because it isn't a feminist sub, but people there aren't so much against anybody, who approach men's issues from this perspective either. And that's pretty much how I feel. F.e. I'm quite critical towards the term "toxic masculinity", but many people who use it, do so in order to help men, not to bash them. And it's the same with conscription. I don't like when the first thing people have to say about it is trying to mat…
/r/MensRights13/04/22 03:12 PM
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Tbh, I think this sub has really improved. It used to be only about "how men can be less toxic". Now you can see some posts about men's mental health, conscription, discrimination etc. I've read there a discussion about the leaving ban in Ukraine about 3 weeks ago and I was actually quite positively surprised. Many men there had very interesting opinions and much empathy towards Ukrainian men. I don't really like the sub for its ideological bias. F.e. they ban all comments, which go beyond socia…
/r/MensRights13/04/22 11:12 AM
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You are absolutely right, but I think they have done it in good faith this time. Gender empathy gap is a thing. Whoever has thought otherwise, can see it now more than ever. I think they just know, that you have to bring women into the story, if you want to make people feel more empathy for the problem itself. I know it, because that's what I usually do as well. When people don't understand how much of a problem this leaving ban is, I say: "Well, immagine mothers of 18 years old boys. They would…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/22 06:24 PM
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I don't know where you're from, but I doubt it would be any better in your country, whichever it is. The idea of men being obliged to fight and defend their country is deeply ingrained everywhere.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/22 06:08 PM
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Oh yes, I remember my teachers in primary school saying things like that. Not all of them. Only 2 or 3. But I'm an old geezer, so it was like more than 25 years ago. Now most women in their 20s or 30s I know are very much against conscription. And especially those who have sons. But I've also happened to talk to some who were in favor. It is something which drives me absolutely nuts. Because men who say such things are at least ready to take the consequences or they have even already been in the…
/r/MensRights05/04/22 05:52 PM
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When you call 50% people more to sign up for service, you are able to find more of those really suitable for it, instead of pretending that a 59 yo man is stronger than a 19 yo sporty woman. You also challenge the vision, which extends the draft problematic, the one about men's lives being of less value. That's why: either conscription for both genders or for nobody. But yes - much better for nobody.
/r/MensRights05/04/22 02:45 PM
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Luckily I'm gay🤣 Tbh most of the girls I know are against conscription. But then again I have mainly male friends, so maybe I don't kniw enough girls. I've seen the poll, where 2/3 of women were in favor of it (and only 1/3 of men). It really drove me nuts. Maybe these were older women from little towns. Because I don't see much of it in Cracow where I live and Warsaw, where I also have friends. What I see however is 100% focus on women's problems and 0% on men's problems.
/r/MensRights05/04/22 01:06 PM
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I knew it, because it's also my country ;) And I've noticed that many young men think about it now in Poland.
/r/MensRights05/04/22 12:44 PM
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19-35. Mandatory medical check. But the conscription, luckily, suspended. It looks like your country is Poland. Isn't it?
/r/MensRights05/04/22 12:20 PM
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