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| 3 | [CMV] It doesn't make sense to shame men for being hurt by womenI don't disagree. The only difference is feminism promotes ideas that reduce female happiness, whilst RP promotes ideas that increase male happiness ...and again if you switch the words a bit here you'll sound like a radical feminist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/18 06:57 PM |
| 2 | [CMV] It doesn't make sense to shame men for being hurt by womenHowever, I fail to see how this criticism affects these men's position. If anything, it only validates it. If I state that "pitbulls are dangerous", and you answer "you only say that because you were bitten by one", well, you've just proven my point? Replace "pitbull" with "men" and you have the radical feminist argument right there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/18 06:37 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Despite what any sexual strategy says, men search for an intellectual equal in their partnerOh, I misread you then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/18 01:50 PM |
| 1 | The Costs of Motherhood Are Rising, and Catching Women Off GuardIt also means that you can have children even if the father doesn’t work somewhere which can pay him extra because of your kid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/18 12:48 PM |
| 1 | Question about The WallNah, the wall doesn't hit everyone. I am 30 now and the women who were hot at 20 are still hot at 30. The women who hit "the wall" typically don't work out, have a bad diet, smoke, spend too much time tanning etc. Saggy breasts, bad skin etc is a combination of genetics and self-care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/18 11:29 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: What is your takeaway of this askwomen thread about Leonardo DiCaprio dating younger women?One user on that thread commented that him not dating women his own age meant that he didn't recognize them as having any value. I replied that you can indeed find value in people even if you're not interested in them romantically. For instance, you find value in you female siblings, your female friends etc. My comment got downvoted and removed by a moderator. For calling out an incel level comment. That entire sub is so weird at times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/18 11:23 AM |
| 1 | The Costs of Motherhood Are Rising, and Catching Women Off GuardQ4All: Do you think that women's expectations are outpacing public policy, workplace culture and family life? Perhaps public policy and workplace culture. Women are being taught that they're oppressed and that males are treated favorably. The ones who believe this may have expectations/make demands that are completely unreasonable Q4All: What do you think is responsible for men and women trending towards a preference of traditional roles? I'm not much of a feminist, but the US is an ass backward… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/18 11:15 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Despite what any sexual strategy says, men search for an intellectual equal in their partner"Who's that? Why did they put him in jail?" "Honey, they literally explained that in the previous scene." "Ooooh... But who is the other guy?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/18 09:07 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Despite what any sexual strategy says, men search for an intellectual equal in their partnerIt doesn't have to be engineering or anything like that. It can be something very simple: Him: picks up flour and some vegetables We can make home-made quesadillas! Her: Ooooh I like that. But then we need to go to the store and buy tortillas Him: .....No, I mean we can make the tortillas from scratch, why do you think I held up the flour? Her: Aaaah! But we still need to buy the sauce though Him: ....why do you think I picked out those vegetables? Intelligence is simply the speed of one's cogni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/18 09:06 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Despite what any sexual strategy says, men search for an intellectual equal in their partnerIntelligence doesn't necessarily mean you talk about intellectual stuff. It means you have a similar speed of reasoning and pattern recognition. When you talk to someone who's less intelligent, they will routinely not be able to follow your logic no matter what subject you're talking about. This would actually be very apparent when you're discussing things that involve planning and multiple variables, such as travelling and cooking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/18 08:58 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Despite what any sexual strategy says, men search for an intellectual equal in their partnerI'm assuming this study is the one you mean(you just linked the search term): https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=2982538701903317733&hl=en&as_sdt=0,33&as_vis=1 The experiments specifically relate to being outperformed on a test. They lack external validity. A way more accurate way to test this would simply be to have a bunch of undergrads complete intelligence tests, and then set up blind speed dates and have them rate chemistry afterwards. Or the other way around to avoid demand charact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/18 08:50 AM |
| 5 | Q4men: how would you feel if a woman told you she is dating you because she followed advice on the internet to stop dating Chad and to lower her standards?I disagree. Who hasn’t spent time chasing someone they can’t get before? Whether she wants you or not is something you clearly can tell by her behavior. If she says it like that and isn’t enthusiastic about you? Yeah, I agree. If she says she used to chase people who didn’t want her, but clearly and enthusiastically seems crazy about you? It doesn’t really matter. There’s no automatic mechanism that suggests she’s not head over heels for you even if she stopped chasing some idealized “chad”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/18 11:20 PM |
| 2 | Q4men: how would you feel if a woman told you she is dating you because she followed advice on the internet to stop dating Chad and to lower her standards?It depends on the setting. If she’s been single for a while before meeting me it’s pretty normal to talk about why, and this might be a reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/18 08:54 PM |
| 19 | Q4men: how would you feel if a woman told you she is dating you because she followed advice on the internet to stop dating Chad and to lower her standards?My reaction would be "That's a pretty socially retarded thing to say to someone you're dating.". Because it is. Saying something like "I used to only fall for guys who I couldn't get" would be ok though. Whether or not she actually wants me or has settled will be pretty visible through her actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/18 04:06 PM |
| 2 | [Q4m] men in your 30’s how has dating changed for you?30 here As the question says how has it changed for you since your 20’s? It's gotten easier. Particularly with women around my age, but also with mid 20s women. Do you still use the same techniques to get women? To some extent yes. I'm a lot more patient now though when it comes to sexual escalation, and I'm a bit more verbally open and direct. Do you attract the same caliber? Hm. More or less the same I guess. Maybe a bit better at times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/18 09:40 AM |
| 7 | Ladies, when you reject a man, you reject his existence as well.If you feel this way, you need professional help. Rejection is a normal part of life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/18 11:35 PM |
| 8 | Q4bothpills: Why do you believe there are multiple support communities for women, but few for men (and the ones that exist for men are often attacked and mocked)?I think one of the contributing factors in this phenomenon is the ideas of male privilege and female oppression. We(western societies) are brought up being taught this as a fact. A consequence of this is that when a man shows weakness or asks for help, the "sympathy bar" is way higher since people on some level think "You're a (white) male. How many problems can you have? You're just whining about stuff the rest of us deal with every day. Man up!". In contrast, when a woman expresses frustration… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/18 11:49 AM |
| 2 | Career women set bar too high for Mr RightThat’s a different claim - their standards are the same as they’ve always been, equal or higher status/resources. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/18 11:12 PM |
| 6 | Career women set bar too high for Mr RightPerhaps one of the largest problems is that schooling is restricted to a select amount of people. This can, however, perhaps be solved by new, digital forms of education open to everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/18 10:51 PM |
| 10 | Career women set bar too high for Mr RightWomen are doing what they’ve always done - select mates based on certain phenotypic traits displayed through (amongst other things) status and resources. But they’ve helped create a society which does not allow enough men to reach their potential, which means there aren’t enough men that trigger the desire to have children and settle down with. The idea that women collectively have increased their standards is absurd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/18 10:50 PM |
| 30 | Career women set bar too high for Mr RightThere's an easy solution to this. The women who feel affected can actually start voicing their concerns on how western education is discriminating against men and boys. Because that's mostly the cause of this. Even when you take into account the flatter normal distribution of men in most cognitive traits, this does not explain how women receive higher grades and thus have an easier time gaining admission to college. Additionally, societal pressure for STEM-fields and tech companies to open up an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/18 04:33 PM |
| 2 | Men are valuable for their utilities, women are valuable as suchNo, I mean spending a lot of time on makeup, fixing your hair, buying a new dress etc and then getting completely ignored by men. Tons of women write stories about this online, I’ve never seen a guy write something similar | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/18 04:00 PM |
| 2 | Men are valuable for their utilities, women are valuable as suchWhat do you think I meant by dressing up r ally nice - trying to look attractive, or wearing some fashion stuff? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/18 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Men are valuable for their utilities, women are valuable as suchDo you think I was talking about fashion, or about dressing up to look attractive ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/18 03:37 PM |
| 2 | Men are valuable for their utilities, women are valuable as suchOk. That’s not the argument I made either, so nice straw man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/18 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Men are valuable for their utilities, women are valuable as suchOh - sorry, i thought you were a woman. For many women, this completely destroys their self esteem. And for you as a man, of course it doesn’t. Because being an object of someone else’s desire isn’t that important to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/18 01:08 PM |
| 1 | Men are valuable for their utilities, women are valuable as suchHow do you feel if you dress up very nice one night, and not a single guy seems to notice you ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/18 12:51 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: If you have spent time on self-improvement related to your dating life - did you ever feel that you weren’t good enough for/didn’t deserve a partner?Thanks for the advice - as I mentioned I don’t really have any issues actually attracting women, sleeping with them or getting dates. Ive actually used casual sex with women subconsciously as a way to prove to myself that I deserve someone. That was mostly the point of my post - to see if anyone felt the same way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 09:47 AM |
| 1 | Q4W Do you think the availability of so many options has caused you to self inflate your own SMV? This also makes you feel like you are "settling" when you're actually getting guys that are appropriate for you but you can no longer appreciate it?Aha, I get it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/18 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Q4W Do you think the availability of so many options has caused you to self inflate your own SMV? This also makes you feel like you are "settling" when you're actually getting guys that are appropriate for you but you can no longer appreciate it?I’m a bit confused here - are you talking about the guys being out of the women’s league? Because I thought we were discussing the opposite | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/18 02:46 PM |
| 1 | Q4W Do you think the availability of so many options has caused you to self inflate your own SMV? This also makes you feel like you are "settling" when you're actually getting guys that are appropriate for you but you can no longer appreciate it?Yup, that’s my guess. Based on personal experience of having driven women away by being needy, and what I’ve seen/heard from others. Usually when a woman has sex with you it means you’re in or above her league, especially if it happens quickly. In my experience anyways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/18 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4W Do you think the availability of so many options has caused you to self inflate your own SMV? This also makes you feel like you are "settling" when you're actually getting guys that are appropriate for you but you can no longer appreciate it?I really doubt they’re keeping them along as fwbs if they’re not seen as boyfriend material. I imagine they have sex a few times, and then they’re rejected. But this is pure speculation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/18 01:52 PM |
| 1 | Women are more picky with their partners, yet a large number more men seem to be "punching" than women - why?It goes both ways I think. Low SES men seem to really be dating down to a very obvious extent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/18 12:44 PM |
| 1 | Q4W Do you think the availability of so many options has caused you to self inflate your own SMV? This also makes you feel like you are "settling" when you're actually getting guys that are appropriate for you but you can no longer appreciate it?If a guy is 2-3 point above his woman in attractiveness he usually has serious personality flaws which leads to that compromise in my experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/18 12:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4W Do you think the availability of so many options has caused you to self inflate your own SMV? This also makes you feel like you are "settling" when you're actually getting guys that are appropriate for you but you can no longer appreciate it?If they’re getting laid, league isn’t their problem. I’m guessing they’re coming on a bit too strong. In my experience, women actually don’t want to be “chased” at all. They want you to take the risks, but if you don’t allow them to be the ones pushing for relationship progress, they usually lose interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/18 12:29 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Your wife/ LTR says that she wants you to be more romantic and buy her flowers. What do you do?....becaaaaause? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/18 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Your wife/ LTR says that she wants you to be more romantic and buy her flowers. What do you do?... yes you pretty much did. You said that her requesting something romantic actually means you’re not attractive anymore. Which implies that being romantic makes you attractive (as its absence makes you unattractive). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/18 02:32 PM |
| 1 | Without TRP/PUA, what is your advice on how the average man can be able to have casual sex?Work out, wear fitting clothes, get a haircut etc. Get good at something. Develop something about you that makes people want you to join them in social settings. Be your own person. This stuff makes you attractive. After that - it’s mostly about recognizing when a woman is interested in you and acting on it. Talk to as many women as possible so you expose your attractive traits to as many as possible. Socialize instead of hitting on random girls. Only start being sexual when you see signs of int… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/18 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Your wife/ LTR says that she wants you to be more romantic and buy her flowers. What do you do?What? Being romantic doesn’t make you attractive. As every failed “nice guy” can tell you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/18 09:32 AM |
| 2 | Follow up on VulnerabilityBeing vulnerable isn’t the same as being hysterical or not being emotionally stable. Emotional instability is a turnoff, but so is lack of emotional introspection. Vulnerability simply means that you’re willing to expose yourself to the world - even if that means being judged. It means admitting that you haven’t skydived because you’re afraid - not because you “think it’s stupid”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/18 09:23 AM |
| 2 | how would you debunk this?It is a very important aspect of attraction, I agree. I think her feeling “safe” mostly comes down to consistency of behavior - you are who you say you are, so she doesn’t constantly worry about what you’re going to do next | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/18 08:48 AM |
| 5 | How I was 'defused'...The weird thing about feminism on the internet is how they spend much more time vilifying “nice guys” and incels than guys like Henry from that story. Sure, some incels have gone on shooting sprees. Guys like Henry kill more women than all of them combined what - every week ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/18 11:43 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: What wouldn't you tolerate from your partner's past?Haha yeah maybe I made it sound like that. But no, I don’t really think banging a nutcase in general is good. When it comes to this girl in particular, I still think she’s a great person even though she’s a nutcase. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/18 12:51 AM |
| 9 | Q4All: What wouldn't you tolerate from your partner's past?American service isn’t really anything to brag about on an international scale either. Seems like the tipping system is mostly an excuse for employers not to pay a living wage to their employees. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/18 08:00 PM |
| 5 | Q4All: What wouldn't you tolerate from your partner's past?American culture is pretty unique on this point. A lot of places in Europe and Asia don’t even allow tipping. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/18 07:28 PM |
| 10 | Q4All: What wouldn't you tolerate from your partner's past?This reminds me of a girl I dated many years ago. We had been on a few dates, and she had finally invited me to her place for our next date, so I expected to get laid. So we’re drinking wine in the couch, and I start going on about how ridiculous I find motivational quotes and posters. Like - I really, really hate them and find them meaningless and shallow. So after a while we start making out, and she guides me to her bedroom. Guess what covers 99% of the wall? Still got laid though. Predictabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/18 07:23 PM |
| 0 | [Q4ALL] Indecisiveness in men: What do you think it says about them?Fair enough, the point was to illustrate how stupid that type of reasoning is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/18 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What makes you resentful?Thanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/18 12:23 PM |
| 2 | Do female workers get treated better than male workers? Do they get special treatment? Can they use their sexual charm? Can they also "sleep their way to the top?"I think they have several obvious advantages: Interview settings. Women have a lot of leeway when it comes to confidence. Behavior that would make a man seem arrogant is accepted in women ("strong woman"). On the flip side, insecurity is expected as well - while this makes a man seem unqualified. In general, women seem to simply be given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to anything on their professional record, while interviewers are more suspicious of men. I base this on my experience fro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/18 12:21 PM |
| 2 | [Q4ALL] Indecisiveness in men: What do you think it says about them?It makes my skin crawl, if you cannot make normal life decisions how are you going to be in an actual emergency? If my wife can't handle being slapped around, how can she handle giving birth? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/18 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What makes you resentful?Are you doing 0 kcal fasts for that long? I've done IF before (Eat Stop Eat) and It always works like a charm. But 21 days without any calories - isn't that dangerous? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/18 12:04 PM |
| 5 | Q4All: What makes you resentful?Buddy, one day you're going to have to recognise that the girl who got better grades than you in college wasn't being showered with automatic praise by the professors because she was symmetrical and had a womb, its because she was brighter than you and worked harder. Actually, there are multiple studies that indicate that the "grades gap" can be explained by the preferential treatment of women. Notice how feminist attitudes affect this. As those studies indicate - women are held less responsible… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/18 11:48 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: What makes you resentful?Hearing women talk about how men should be more open with their emotions and asking for help, and then then later hearing the very same woman talking about how disgusting she finds a guy because he complained about something or expressed hopelessness. Additionally - when women call men entitled for expressing frustration or feelings of hopelessness. I've only seen this online though. The same women often claim that "toxic masculinity" is a societal problem, yet they don't seem to understand that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/18 11:39 AM |
| 1 | [Q4RP] Why do you think the wage gap doesn’t exist?Yes. But this is the only study which has examined all relevant variables. Other studies that indicate the wage gap simply point out variance that is explained through gender, and then immediately concludes with discrimination rather than individual behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/18 09:34 PM |
| 1 | [Q4RP] Why do you think the wage gap doesn’t exist?This is the most comprehensive and statistically rigorous study which has been conducted on the wage gap, and the only one to my knowledge which can account for all relevant factors. It indicates that a 7%(which was the figure you cited) wage gap can be explained by differences in performance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/18 01:07 PM |
| 1 | [Q4RP] Why do you think the wage gap doesn’t exist?93%... coincidentally the same as this : https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/07/uber-gender-pay-gap-explained-men-drive-faster-women/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/18 08:02 PM |
| 1 | [Q4RP] Why do you think the wage gap doesn’t exist?Explain this: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/07/uber-gender-pay-gap-explained-men-drive-faster-women/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/18 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you maintain friendships with women only to bang her or her friends?No. I befriend people I like regardless of gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/18 07:42 PM |
| 2 | A Definition of Frame, and why almost all TRP's fail at itSjws and trp huh, strange bedfellows | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/18 04:48 PM |
| 5 | A Definition of Frame, and why almost all TRP's fail at itBy this logic, sjws hold solid frame | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/18 08:11 AM |
| 3 | Men like bi women , women dislike bi men ???autistic screeching | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/18 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Men like bi women , women dislike bi men ???Master mwait, you disappoint me. Yoda holds you in such high esteem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/18 09:06 PM |
| 3 | Men like bi women , women dislike bi men ???They view it as just double the fun. Good. Twice the pride, double the fall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/18 03:08 PM |
| 2 | CMV - Most "average" men are redeemable; can become reasonably attractive.Men are already super sensitive to anything women say to them. He doesn’t need an attractive women telling him he looks like a bum and it’s viscerally disgusting. His male friends or even his boss should tell him. His father/mother should have told him when he grew up. Or his teacher. Or his buddies. I don’t think it’s fair for men to expect women to go around doing this, knowing that most men won’t react well to even “sweet advice” from women. I agree it's not fair at all to expect it. But it’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/18 02:26 PM |
| 8 | Men like bi women , women dislike bi men ???I think it depends on the woman. Given the current social climate, I doubt most millennial women would mind it at all. If she's generally open minded she may find it hot even. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/18 02:16 PM |
| 1 | CMV - Most "average" men are redeemable; can become reasonably attractive.And yes omg hygiene is important. I know a guy who walks around with dirt under his nails and it disgusts me. He’s not a gardener or construction worker so there’s no reason for it. All I can think is “does he expect women to let them fondle their nether regions with fingers like that?” Have you asked him that though? He's probably not aware. For some reason this dawns on women at 10. Many men have to be tricked into looking attractive. Idk. I think there are many reasons for this. Aside from th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/18 02:11 PM |
| 5 | [Q4RP] do you think women refuse to accept consequences for their actions?Women are arrested for child neglect more often although men abandon their children more Aren't women the primary caregivers more as well? And granted custody more often? Women are more punished socially for being assertive and for lying. I would LOVE to see female candidates who are as big as POS as Bill clinton and Donald Trump get elected. Marine Le Pen? Sarah Palin? Theresa May? Tons of examples out there. You're cherry picking. Show me an experiment or controlled study of any kind which dem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/18 12:35 PM |
| 2 | [Q4RP] do you think women refuse to accept consequences for their actions?Do you really need this? Yes. I mentioned tons of statistics(most of which I'm sure you've been exposed to numerous times) which directly contradict any implications of there being such a norm as "boys will be boys". Just open a map and throw a dart and you have a good chance at hitting a country where women obviously have less rights than men and are socially and legally punished for behavior men are not. Apparently slavery is okay if you call it “marriage” and say God told you to do it. I did … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/18 11:54 AM |
| 4 | [Q4RP] do you think women refuse to accept consequences for their actions?Again - you're just repeating your claim. Give me one piece of evidence that this actually takes place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/18 11:39 AM |
| 2 | CMV - Most "average" men are redeemable; can become reasonably attractive.I’m also convinced many people just don’t have an eye for “aesthetics.” Literally all the hosts did was give a guy a different hair cut, and maybe a different hair color; and upgrade his wardrobe and tell him to stand straight and improve his posture. It's very easy to see once you have an eye for it and you experience the effects of it IRL yourself. The sad thing is that for those guys, no one has ever taught them anything about self-presentation. It's not their own fault usually. I grew with a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/18 09:13 AM |
| 3 | [Q4RP] do you think women refuse to accept consequences for their actions?I notice the lack of a controlled experiment here... But speaking anecdotally, this is BS. Unless you're a powerful or extremely attractive man, it's the complete opposite. It's not uncommon for women to just grab whatever body part they want on a man they find attractive. *Especially* older women with a younger man. I don't even see why I have to explain the double standard here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/18 08:59 AM |
| 2 | CMV - Most "average" men are redeemable; can become reasonably attractive.I thought I was going crazy with the amount of people acting as though this was a controversial observation. This used to be commonly accepted back in the late PUA area. I think the main reason for the denial of this is the influx of dating apps, and the extreme amount of guys who don't know how to present themselves or act in such a setting. There's no feedback loop which informs them how close they are to actually matching with someone, or why women aren't replying to them, so it becomes incre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/18 12:25 AM |
| 3 | CMV - Most "average" men are redeemable; can become reasonably attractive.I also wonder about the analogs, how much is gym, grooming and clothes really good for a guys SMV vs makeup and clothes for women. In other words can a 5 man only ever become a 7 through intense work where a 5 woman can become a 7 through an hour in the bathroom before she goes out? I think people focus too much on one thing when it comes to their looks. Like, seriously, if you've got below 20% bodyfat, you can do some pullups, you can squat and bench your bodyweight - you're probably in *good e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/18 12:08 AM |
| 2 | CMV - Most "average" men are redeemable; can become reasonably attractive.I am an example of this. If I'm non-groomed I look downright horrible. The natural way my hair grows is a complete mess, and my facial hair is totally unbalanced if left unchecked. If I gain too much weigh, I turn into a double-chinned blob. I have a rather large forehead and nose, and my hairline is somewhat high even though I probably will never lose any hair(been that way since birth). I have bags under my eyes which are more or less genetic. I have a great figure when I'm in shape, absolutel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/18 11:58 PM |
| 2 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Football!!!!! (07 July 2018)All of the latin teams are out - they contain 99% of the drama queens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/18 11:15 PM |
| 1 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Football!!!!! (07 July 2018)Same here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/18 11:14 PM |
| 20 | [Q4RP] do you think women refuse to accept consequences for their actions?LOL what?!! Men are given SO much leeway. Whatever happen to the “boys will be boys” excuse for damn near every shitty behavior? Like.. when does this ever actually happen? "Boys will be boys" - is that why they're being stuffed full of ritalin? Is that why men are punished more severely for the same crimes - or even punished more severely for the same behavior in school - and why studies indicate they receive worse grades for the same performance? Show me one controlled experiment demonstrating… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/18 10:57 PM |
| 2 | CMV: There is no way to reliably distinguish nice men from men that aren't.I hear a lot of men say that women ignore nice men to date assholes, at least in their youth. But to my observation, niceness is a very transitory and situational trait and not a global state of being. So there are no nice men, at least in the way people mean it. It depends on what you mean by nice. The examples you mention are pretty shallow: For instance certain men will act VERY nice and beta when you first meet them. They will shower you with gifts, attention, and validation. I don't think a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/18 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?In my book you’re kind of an asshole if you change your behavior toward your partner based on mild physical changes of the sort which are common like aging and weight gain. If you're not aroused by your partner, you're not aroused by your partner. It's not something you choose to be. Do you think a woman is an asshole if she stops wanting sex with her man? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/18 01:31 PM |
| 2 | Time waster double standardPretty much all that needs to be said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/18 09:19 PM |
| 2 | Why the emphasis on female hypergamy and not chad's polygamy by men's groups?Oh, I see. So I assume you have tons of studies and surveys indicating that women prefer "their turn" with chad, who will want someone else after a while, over the most attractive guy who will commit to them and allow them to start a family? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/18 08:41 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?Right - I agree with that description of arousal. And that was basically my primary point;men are mostly aroused/turned on by looks. He claims to love the woman, but he isn't turned on by her anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?You're confusing an arousal response with actual sexual attraction. They're two different things. Please elaborate on what you think is the difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 10:21 PM |
| 2 | Why the emphasis on female hypergamy and not chad's polygamy by men's groups?You think women prefer "their turn" with chad over something stable with the most attractive guy who will commit to them? Please explain how evolution would have selected for this behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 09:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?I think you should, you're making a very bold claim that men are extremely simple, shallow creatures. If you're going to insult a whole gender like that you should probably make sure your opinion is supported by reality. Sure, check it out: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evolution-the-self/201205/the-triggers-sexual-desire-men-vs-women I'm a man, and I find lots of things sexually attractive. Personality, intelligence, creativity, humor, confidence, shared fetishes, etc. all contribute … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?Sure, I'll hand you that one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?The science doesn't say that the only thing that matters to men as far as sexual attraction is looks. All right. I'll add youth, voice pitch, and smell. I could probably find sources for that. Could you point me to sources indicating the other things men supposedly find sexually attractive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Q4MEN: In what ways does a woman make you feel incredibly masculine?Do you call him "sir" and get drinks for him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 03:10 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?Jeebus, how much do you have to hate men to think we are all so pathetically two dimensional? I'm a man myself. The science is pretty clear on this. There's nothing pathetic about it, it's just how nature designed us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?Right! And that's the point with complaining about partners as well. Tons of women (online, never seen it IRL) complain about how "Men" as a supposed collective do things that sound extremely childish. Look at this comic for instance: https://english.emmaclit.com/2017/05/20/you-shouldve-asked/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 01:51 PM |
| 1 | Controversial Opinion: I Believe Women Are More Hypergamous and Some Social Experiments Prove ThisI had plenty of these sorts of pictures Exactly what would you define as these sorts of pictures? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 01:48 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?Easiest way to figure it out would be to get back to the weight at which he was still initiating sex with her and see if the issue resolves itself. Agreed. It's like - give it a try at least. Losing 10 pounds (if that's what she's gained) takes at most a couple of months. Having physical standards for your partner is sort of out of vogue right now, despite the fact that it's pure delusion to think that physical appearance doesn't impact desire, no matter how much you love a person. You think the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 01:47 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?Right - but then you own up to that. You don't start complaining about how society creates cars with bad gas mileage when there are available cars with both your color and good gas mileage available. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 01:45 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?"My car has such a bad gas mileage!" "Well why did you buy the car?" "Tbh gas mileage isn't exactly a metric according to which I choose a car" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 01:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?Did you know that only aroubd 10% of women in her age group are actually 5'3? If you look at it this way the probability of her being 5'3" is only 10%. If that's the case why would you go around assuming that? Haha what? Source for that please. The thing about average is that's the AVERAGE, Not the most likely. The average of 20 5'0 girls and 20 5'6 girls is 5'3". You realize height is normally distributed, right? The average absolutely means that it is the most likely. https://qph.fs.quoracdn.n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 01:24 PM |
| 1 | Why the emphasis on female hypergamy and not chad's polygamy by men's groups?Even if only a tiny percentage of chad alpha's are polygamous they can ruin mongogamy for all the remaining guys if most women are hypergamous. Are you talking about cheating here? Because otherwise this statement makes no sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 12:33 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?I share this sentiment sometimes. Especially when you read about women choosing guys who don't do housework, can't communicate properly, basically act like overgrown children etc and they complain that this is some sort of societal male patriarchal issue or something. All I can think is: "....but you chose that guy. He's like that. Tons of men are not like that, but you chose him.". It's like personal responsibility is completely left out of the discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 12:30 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?That depends on your starting point. She describes herself as already being overweight prior to the weight gain. At some point, you lose your curves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 12:17 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?You just doubled down with no argument whatsoever | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 12:16 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?Which guy? I've gone through her posts and the only guy I see is some random guy from a TV show she compares her hair with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 12:14 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?Either that, or she's addicted to guys she can "fix". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 12:02 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?You're a guy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 11:43 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?There's just pictures of her hair, none of her boyfriend or any realistic pictures of her weight. ...but holy shit, her dating history seems exclusively to consist of alcoholics and other recovering addicts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 11:42 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?Care to share ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 11:29 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?It takes far more than 10lbs to do this. If he's super skinny then yes. But at some point, 10lbs is sufficient to change your body shape. There's a line somewhere where once you cross it, your body shape changes dramatically. Look, if he ever was attracted to her, it was too precarious to be a good fit for an ltr. And he’s just a bad bet. She says in other comments that she threatened to leave if he didn’t get the drinking under control and his reaction was “fine- go.” This man gives no fucks ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 11:22 AM |
| 2 | Controversial Opinion: I Believe Women Are More Hypergamous and Some Social Experiments Prove ThisYou don't get a chance to show how psychologically attractive you are in the first place if you're not physically attractive. Sure you do. Picture of guy with tons of friends having a lot of fun = he has enough social skills to have a circle of friends who enjoy his company and has fun with him. Picture of guy running a marathon = he has willpower and physical fitness Picture of guy with a dog or a child = he can care for other life forms, other people trust him with their children, he has good … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 11:18 AM |
| 2 | Controversial Opinion: I Believe Women Are More Hypergamous and Some Social Experiments Prove ThisI've tried to discuss this with him before. It came down to him claiming that the other (non-visual) things which women are affected by "shouldn't matter". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 11:15 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?If he has few options this would make even less sense, in that case he should be very pleased with the (rare) sex he's getting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 11:12 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?Yup. And as I've been saying in other posts - she may have pulled off some decent curves at 175, but sooner or later fat starts storing itself in very unattractive places - face, chin, stomach. 10 lbs can absolutely make a huge difference. Hell, I'm a 5'11 man and 10lbs makes a very visible difference on my physique. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 11:10 AM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?Well actually this is the most reasonable assumption one can make statistically. And hell - even if she is 6 feet tall (which is extremely unlikely), she would still have a BMI that classifies her as overweight (25). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 11:09 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?People don't normally gain 10 lbs in one area. Do people normally stop having sex with their SO for no reason? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 11:07 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?he was never into her and the recent 10lbs is not the issue. I disagree with this. Women's bodies are visually attractive to men due to the proportions between their hips and waist. Lots of women can look very attractive even if they're overweight because the fat is stored in a way which supports their curves. But there's a limit to how overweight you can be while pulling this off. 10lbs can be the differene between "Chubby, but good looking curves" and "Chubby with no visible curves between hip… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 11:05 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?New relationship energy can do that, you spike with something 'new' but then fall back into your niche. This maybe applies to a ONS if you're pretty drunk. But why on earth would he enter a relationship with someone he's not attracted to? That makes absolutely no sense. It's like saying you'd be hungry when presented with food you didn't like because it was new and exciting. Still tastes bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 11:00 AM |
| 4 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?If she's of average height for a US woman (which is 5'3), it gives her a BMI of 32. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 10:59 AM |
| 4 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?She only gain 10lbs!?!? That is literally nothing. This really depends on where she starts (she describes herself as being chubby to begin with before gaining 10 lbs) and where the fat goes. If the fat goes to boobs, butt etc - sure, no one will notice. 10lbs focused around the gut? Yep, pretty visible. My So and I gained ten pounds neither of us noticed until we got a scale all of our clothes still fit perfectly. She literally says in one reply (to me) that her dresses aren't fitting like they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 10:53 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What's your take on the replies to this post on r/relationship_advice?He says it's not her. Whats She / Us suppose to think? The same thing that guys should think when a woman says everything is fine yet their behavior suggests otherwise. He's probably a bad communicator. I think he isn't attracted to her, and losing the weight won't make a difference because the attraction is rooted in something different, and reinforced with the porn. They used to have sex all the time before. Male sexual attraction is primarily physical, so the only explanation for him losing a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 10:46 AM |
| 1 | Controversial Opinion: I Believe Women Are More Hypergamous and Some Social Experiments Prove ThisAnd OkCupid isn't the best data for this, because women need more than just pictures and a bit of text. In this study they went on blind-dates and then rated the attractiveness. I don't buy the incel blackpill theory at all. But this distribution does suggest that there's some uneven distribution of sexual attention, and also illustrates a reason for women claiming there are few good men out there. Once you start approaching a 7 looks-wise, your competition dramatically decreases. The amount of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/18 10:42 AM |
| 1 | Red Pill is what happens when male privilege lets entire generations not matureYou conveniently left out the parts where you, for thousands of years, not only banned the other racer from racing at all, but also forced them to depend on you to survive, while laughing at them for being “inferior”. Right - I'll include this. So you confront the person who told you to wait 10 seconds before starting about this. And he tells you: "Yes. Other people who raced with those shoes used to be huge assholes. So we've decided that you should be penalized for something you had no hand in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/18 07:32 PM |
| 3 | Solving The Manchild ConundrumOh. Probably JBP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/18 07:25 PM |
| 13 | Solving The Manchild ConundrumHow do we solve the manchild problem as it stands now? I think the popularity of Jordan Peterson demonstrates exactly how. Men need tough love - someone to get in their face and tell them to get their goddamn shit together in a stern but respectful way. This sort of communication often makes girls and women insecure. So schools in the western world have (my hypothesis) changed their communication in a way that doesn't cause insecurity in women, but which causes men to not grow up. The educationa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/18 07:18 PM |
| 3 | Why don't wives just tell their husbands to lift and dress better?Yeah tons of men dress and groom horribly. And then whine about not getting any female attention. I mean, I have a focus on wearing clothes that fit/keeping groomed etc because it's very obvious that it affects women's interest in me. But if I was married I can imagine it could start slipping away unless my wife reminded me in some way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/18 07:09 PM |
| 5 | Why don't wives just tell their husbands to lift and dress better?With all due respect, no one is 100% direct. A big part of being an adult is reading between the lines. That excuse is a cop out IMO. "Honey could you do the laundry when you get home from work? I've done it the last 10 times" Yeah definitely no one says anything like this. Super rare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/18 06:58 PM |
| 3 | Why don't wives just tell their husbands to lift and dress better?I often hear the old "women nag too much". I've found that nagging is usually either: Woman constantly making crazy requests from her man, being angry that he doesn't buy her gifts, take her out, or do something which would require him to be a mind-reader. Man-child who can't perform simple adult tasks correctly and yet somehow managed to attract a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/18 06:56 PM |
| 5 | Why don't wives just tell their husbands to lift and dress better?Tbh I'd love it if a woman did that for me. I like looking good/wearing clothes that fit etc but actually shopping and finding them just bores me to death. When I'm rich enough I'll hire a personal style assistant and just outsource everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/18 06:54 PM |
| 1 | How can a modern society incentivize monogamy?In a recent thread about Jordan Peterson there was discussion of a concept called “enforced monogamy”, which from my understanding meant that society should encourage monogamous long-term relationships. A large part of this is social. Jordan talks a lot about how cheating is seen as immoral, and how the concept of a relationship as exclusive seems to exist in all cultures. Incels seem to interpret it as a curbing of women's hypergamy, but from what I understand enforced monogamy is mostly invent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/18 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Red Pill is what happens when male privilege lets entire generations not matureScientific fact has little impact on Red Pill beliefs. There's no such thing as male privilege. That's a scientific fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/18 06:24 PM |
| 2 | Red Pill is what happens when male privilege lets entire generations not matureI somewhat agree with the statement, but probably not in the articulation of how. The idea of "Male Privilege" is probably what causes communities like TRP and the manosphere to exist to begin with. As the idea that men have privilege became mainstream - this effectively blinded western society to the increasing problems of men and boys. Note that I'm not actually talking about male privilege here - but the idea of male privilege. Imagine if you entered a race and someone told you that you had t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/18 06:22 PM |
| 1 | How do you tell a red piller in the wild?Any sane person would. But according to that ridiculous blog, asking if you have a girlfriend is a shit test. And you should always say no. The same guide also tells you to say stuff like "What? An imaginary one? Hahaha!" If a woman says she has a boyfriend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/18 06:06 PM |
| 2 | How do you tell a red piller in the wild?I'll take a guess: If you (a woman) ask him if he has a girlfriend and he says yes, then it turns out he's single, he probably read that autistic "Shit test encyclopedia" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/18 05:54 PM |
| 3 | Conflicting signals: women are their most sexual at 18 or 30?My experience is that most women are most promiscuous 19-22. Afterwards, a lot of them come to a realization that they don't really enjoy or want casual sex, and instead want something serious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/18 12:45 PM |
| 2 | [Discussion] Dr. Jordan Peterson's Latest Interview with Joe Rogan 7-2-2018Could I get an example of some of the literature you think he cites? Most of what he says about IQ and the Big Five personality model is uncontroversial research which makes up perhaps the most robust findings in psychology, and arguably the most replicated models in social science as a whole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/18 12:11 AM |
| 4 | [Discussion] Dr. Jordan Peterson's Latest Interview with Joe Rogan 7-2-2018Hypergamy - Female nature defined, and implied AWALT. Peterson's idea is a bit different. He talks about dominance hierarchies and male competition as a selection mechanism for women which keeps the species healthy. I don't recall him specifically mentioning hypergamy in a way TRP would agree with. He says women mate across or up when it comes to socioeconomic status and mate value in general - which is simply a statistical fact. No branch swinging or whatever implied. This is one of the reasons… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/18 12:04 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: In your opinion, who has it worse in western society, men or women?Well, at least you're honest that you don't actually have an argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/18 12:48 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: In your opinion, who has it worse in western society, men or women?Yeah I totally can't cite any sources about female disadvantages, that would be impossible Cite sources specifically supporting your claim that there are two biases against women for every one there is against men. Or hell - anything resembling an actual argument against OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/18 12:40 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: In your opinion, who has it worse in western society, men or women?lol for every bias you can find against men you can find twice as many biases against women. Of course you can't. And you know that, because if you actually believed this you would cite some sources. In the most important areas of life, women have clear advantages. no one said the world was egalitarian, but on the whole yes men are on top. This is about the western world. Of course in the non-western world women aren't on top. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/18 12:32 PM |
| 4 | Q4ALL: In your opinion, who has it worse in western society, men or women?yes, a bunch of stats about crap that doesn't matter in the real world unless you are criminal Really? So getting lower grades because of your gender, being disciplined more because of your gender in school, the overwhelming difference in suicides, women preferring women... none of that has an impact on day to day life? If you go to college, you saw the impact. Less men than women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/18 11:40 AM |
| 4 | Q4ALL: In your opinion, who has it worse in western society, men or women?if ur a mc/umc white guy and you really think you're at a disadvantage compared to most women you just truly, genuinely suck at reaping the benefits of your position in this society Like... what the hell do you even base this on? Do you see the statistics in the OP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/18 10:09 AM |
| 1 | New Study Finds that US is one of the "worst" countries for women. ThoughtsThe Thomson Reuters Foundation surveyed 500 experts to determine where women were most at risk. Countries were ranked in six key areas: health care, sexual violence, nonsexual violence, cultural practices, discrimination and human trafficking. The US is the only western country with no universal health care. I have no problem believing that this skews the scale to an extreme extent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/18 11:30 PM |
| 4 | Q4ALL: In your opinion, who has it worse in western society, men or women?Of course men have it worse. Sure - women have some systemic issues that are very troubling (as uncovered by #metoo and tons of research on the topic) - but no one can compare the problems of men with those of women and claim women have it worse with a straight face. I have yet to see any rebuttal to the types of statistics from the OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/18 11:26 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: In your opinion, who has it worse in western society, men or women?Imagine being you, only smaller and weaker. Ok You can't lift heavy things, so a lot of manual jobs are off-limits. Oh no, no minimum wage high-risk job? You have less physical endurance overall and often are in pain. Often in pain? What are you referring to here? Things like walking at night are off-limits because there is real danger of the bigger, stronger people causing you injury. And the chances of this happening are way, way larger as a man. Go ask your male friends about being on the rec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/18 11:20 PM |
| 6 | Q4ALL: In your opinion, who has it worse in western society, men or women?yeah, yeah, yeah, the same old repeated statistics that are not skewed, that are incentivized by political alignment, money or ideological beliefs -- and the same repeated statistics that bring a fresh complexion to gender joust. Could you elaborate on exactly what you mean by this? Those "old" statistics are recreated year after year in every single western society through measurement of the incidence and prevalence of various social issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/18 11:15 PM |
| 6 | The Vast Majority of Men Are Probably Not Worth a Woman’s Commitment, let alone Deference or SubmissionBingo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/18 08:39 AM |
| 2 | The Vast Majority of Men Are Probably Not Worth a Woman’s Commitment, let alone Deference or SubmissionWhat about the droid attack on the wookies? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/18 08:38 AM |
| 1 | The Vast Majority of Men Are Probably Not Worth a Woman’s Commitment, let alone Deference or SubmissionThey’re shortsighted. Ha! I'm far sighted. Guess I'm one of the good ones huh. Men are in a weak state today, Not because of some vast feminist conspiracy - but because feminism just exposed the utter mediocrity of the average man. The men you meet and attract are no more than a reflection of yourself. If you feel like most men are "projects", you're probably a bit of a project too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/18 08:37 AM |
| 2 | Q4women: "If you have to try to earn her attraction, then you've already lost." What do you think of this?have any of those people ever MET women before, our attraction frequently builds over time. its one of the most basic parts of female sexuality lmao So you've never met an interesting guy at a bar or a party before who you were attracted to ? I mean sure - even when attraction does build up over time (which varies very much from woman to woman in my experience), the points in OP are still valid. When women are attracted to you, it's obvious. They show signals. There's no point pursuing someone w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/18 04:07 PM |
| 2 | Q4women: "If you have to try to earn her attraction, then you've already lost." What do you think of this?The important part about this idea is that once a women decide whether or not she finds you attractive, it doesn't matter how your personality is like or what else you have going for you. You will never be able to win her over through game or whatever it is Redpillers think of. I partly agree. If she's not attracted to you from the start, nothing you do will change that. And I agree that you should focus most of your efforts on recognizing signs of interest. But like - of course everything about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/18 03:53 PM |
| 2 | Q4MEN: In what ways does a woman make you feel incredibly masculine?The difference is that what you're describing is actual social proof. Not some guys calling another guy "sir". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/18 11:27 AM |
| 5 | Being considered "marriage material" as a man is an insult and a bad thingThat's not really true, especially not for men. Male attractiveness isn't based in youth. It's based on experience, maturity, and accomplishment. Those are things that take time. Almost all older guys will tell you that dating when they look like men in their 30s is more rewarding than dating when they still look like boys in their early 20s. As someone approaching 30 - this is definitely my experience. As in, getting a date/ONS/whatever is a lot easier. Both with younger women and women around … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/18 12:43 PM |
| 3 | Q4MEN: In what ways does a woman make you feel incredibly masculine?In what ways does a woman make you feel incredibly masculine? When she looks up at me with bambi eyes. When she gets on her toes to kiss me. When she tells me I need to sleep closer to the door than she does. When she tells me she feels safe around me. When she rests her head on my chest and tells me my heartbeat is loud. When she comments on my muscles/asks me to flex. When we're lying in bed after sex and she's softy caressing my chest and body with her fingernails while none of us say a word.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/18 12:37 PM |
| 5 | Q4MEN: In what ways does a woman make you feel incredibly masculine?You might laugh, but you know a lot of girls would fall for it. Sounds like a PUA gimmick story. What actually would happen is that the group of guys would have a lot of fun with it, and no women would notice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/18 12:10 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What is the current state of men?Has the narrative to men's issues shifted because your society as a whole sees it as a problem or because the woes of men are impacting women negatively? It's spearheaded by the media and several prominent public figures, and it's pretty much focused on how male problems impact males. Sometimes there's a mention of how it affects highly educated women because they have fewer prospective partners, but this is usually just a sidenote. Slightly off topic, what's your take on this? A combination of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/18 01:17 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What is the current state of men?What is your opinion of the current state of men, in general? What do you see IRL? As compared to women, men in the west are getting a raw deal in education especially. I live in Norway, and for a while the media would write about women's issues literally daily, although Norway (like the rest of the west) has a male population that as a group struggles in most areas compared to women. Luckily, things slowly seem to be turning. The last year feminism has rarely been a topic in the mainstream medi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/18 10:04 AM |
| 3 | Straight women of PPD - do you prefer masculine or feminine looking men for partners?This is pretty important, because many of the "Surprising" findings about female sexual preferences have failed to be replicated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/18 09:38 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone here deny women have it easier finding/keeping relationships?all im saying is yea if your to much of an retard to end up with guys like that. ...What? If you're too much of a retard to end up with a guy like that? What does that even mean? You're not making a lot of sense. its easy for men to know which men are genuinely relationship material or not, maybe its just hard for woman but seriously its really easy You're contradicting yourself. Giving guys "a chance" even if they don't appear to be relationship material would be the exact opposite of what you'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/18 03:07 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone here deny women have it easier finding/keeping relationships?Not American. And I still don't understand how this relates to what you originally replied to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/18 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Do you like to be chased or to be the one doing the chasing?Pretty good analysis. And if you start pursuing her more, you stark subconsciously reminding her of a "meh" man. And your point #2 also explains why it's not unethical (like someone seem to think) to make her work a bit more for you. As long as you're not dishonest with her - she'll enjoy the payoff much more in the end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/18 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone here deny women have it easier finding/keeping relationships?Not sure I understood what you tried to say here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/18 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Do you like to be chased or to be the one doing the chasing?Yeah and this is what I mean by being "Chased". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/18 10:28 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Do you like to be chased or to be the one doing the chasing?There is a line here....and if he isn't conveying interest by showing me he's interested in getting to know me/wants to spend time with me I'm gonna assume he's not interested. Yeah I get what you're saying. A specific example from a girl I dated long ago was that we would have great dates, and we would talk about what we should do on our next date etc - and she would always follow up on me on when I was available. If I had plans some day, she would suggest a new date. She was kind of running th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/18 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Do you like to be chased or to be the one doing the chasing?Man I would lose interest fast if some dude acted completely indifferent to me and I even like the somewhat aloof guys but you gotta give me something. It's not as much indifference as it is acceptance. It's like - imagine you're getting the impression from a guy that you're an awesome girl and he likes you - but he's not going to jump through any hoops or put that much effort into arranging dates etc unless you're giving very clear signals that you want him to. He won't change his schedule that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/18 05:16 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Do you like to be chased or to be the one doing the chasing?yup that’s my experience too, basically you just hook her and then let her do all the work , while you act indifferent and go do your own thing, women are crazy about it and they’ll basically do all the chasing at that point Exactly. Some people talk about ethics, but I've never seen women who are happier when I'm dating than the ones who are chasing me. They also seem much more happy to show affection in front of others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/18 05:06 PM |
| 3 | Q4Women: Do you like to be chased or to be the one doing the chasing?However, if he waits for an attractive woman to approach him, he might be waiting for a long time, unless he's all-that-and-a-bag-of-chips himself. That's because an attractive woman is likely to have a sufficient number of suitors to occupy her time and energy. She probably won't be inclined to go chasing after some guy who isn't paying her any attention. Two in the hand are worth more than one in the bush, right? Waiting for a woman to approach you is a bad idea of course. But let's say you're… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/18 05:00 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Do you like to be chased or to be the one doing the chasing?Yeah, this is kind of what I'm getting at. It's like - if what you do as a man is mostly to look for signals and act on them, or test for the presence of signals and act on them, this seems to be the preferred situation for women. When I think about it, it feels like most if not all women I've been with chose me first. Often before I even realized she existed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/18 04:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Do you like to be chased or to be the one doing the chasing?Passive pursuing might be the right word in some cases - she pursues by giving out signals. I think maybe women prefer to do this rather than having guys pursue them, which puts a lot of pressure on them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/18 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Do you like to be chased or to be the one doing the chasing?Probably because the first barely knows you exist, but the second already knows she likes you. That is of course a possible explanation - girls appear to enjoy chasing me more because the women who chase me like me more to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/18 12:24 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone here deny women have it easier finding/keeping relationships?you dont know anything until you try, thats why guys give girls a chance, we dont judge everyone woman to be some cunt, lets get to know each other before we judge, never met a woman who can do the same thing. lets be honest most guys with no options are good boyfriend material, from what i seen, only thing the lack is hollywood good looks and high status, unless thats all women care about. Women who historically gave guys "a chance" ended up pregnant without a man around to protect her offsprin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/18 10:11 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone here deny women have it easier finding/keeping relationships?if i want a bf, it takes me about....2 months to get a new one. max. in 2016. i had a breakup on Feb. 14 (yes, valentine's day.) by March 14, i had a new bf. yes, that fast. this year, i had a breakup in march. by mid june, i had a new bf. Well yeah, most men who are somewhat attractive can do this as well if they lower their standards somewhat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/18 10:03 AM |
| 2 | Does anyone here deny women have it easier finding/keeping relationships?What’s more common in my experience is that they have super high standards. I have single friends who are beautiful and get lots of male attention and go on lots of dates, but no one is good enough (in their opinion). In fact most of the still-single women I know in my age group - late twenties - are very attractive. The ugly ones latched onto guys quickly. Yeah same thing in my circles (with some exceptions). Lots of very attractive mid-late 20s women who keep finding something wrong with prett… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/18 10:02 AM |
| 1 | Camille Paglia summarizes the mindset of the Feminist women from min 9:00 to 11:30.Ok - I get what you're saying. You're talking about cultural expectations of the division of chores. I agree - this is a thing. However the artist isn't specifically complaining about the division of chores. She's complaining about the division of the mental load - which she defines as being how much she constantly worries about the state of her home, what her kids will do etc. She accuses men as a whole of not being willing to partake in the "mental load" - at the same time as she describes a s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/18 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Camille Paglia summarizes the mindset of the Feminist women from min 9:00 to 11:30.So you don't think that there are cultural differences in the division of household chores? I'm not sure I understand what you're asking here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/18 10:48 AM |
| 1 | Camille Paglia summarizes the mindset of the Feminist women from min 9:00 to 11:30.Ok, I don't really think my hypothetical motivations are relevant in a discussion. But just to clarify: You don't think this comic is a representation of a woman who transforms a personal problem into a societal one? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/18 01:40 AM |
| 1 | Camille Paglia summarizes the mindset of the Feminist women from min 9:00 to 11:30.That makes sense. Of course, as a man, if I'm not the one who's getting upset about the chores, I can't make the micro conflict happen. Only the upset person can do that. I guess there may be some things I can do to create an environment in which she feels that her concerns will be addressed when she raises them, or to make her feel she won't be attacked back in retaliation for raising the issue. I do somewhat sympathize with women who don't immediately do this though. A lot of men just can't se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/18 01:25 AM |
| 1 | Camille Paglia summarizes the mindset of the Feminist women from min 9:00 to 11:30.Or a third possibility, that the guy’s bad adulting habits didn’t manifest until after they moved in together and had kids. It seems like you’re implying that a guy who doesn’t help around the house was putting those habits on display pre-marriage and that she knew he’d be like that before having kids with him. In my experience, women with the emotional workload problem skew traditional and don’t experience living with their husbands until either right before or right after marriage, meaning he … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/18 01:15 AM |
| 1 | Camille Paglia summarizes the mindset of the Feminist women from min 9:00 to 11:30.Now it's tough to generalize from my parents to all women, but I wonder if women are by nature a little less confrontational (on average) and they actually kind of know what will happen - the few times they started a fight, they saw where it went. So some women just don't start on it. Perhaps. I think women have a much more indirect style of communication, and some of them are often angry at men for not understanding subtle communication ("I went to bed early instead of watching TV with you beca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/18 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Camille Paglia summarizes the mindset of the Feminist women from min 9:00 to 11:30.I think you’re misunderstanding the comic. Why do you assume the woman hasn’t communicated with the man? .... I didn't. I presented this as a possibility, not as an assumption. If you read again you'll see that I also mentioned another possibility. Women stuck with the bulk of the emotional load often do communicate their issues and are labeled various negative names: nagging, bitchy, overbearing, shrill. Sure. A lot of men do that. Hence what I said as option A. There is definitely a conversati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/18 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Camille Paglia summarizes the mindset of the Feminist women from min 9:00 to 11:30.The connection is related to the following OP quote: The points she makes are that women who have made very poor choices with men then latch on to the excuse of patriarchy and seek comfort of the feminist movement to explain to themselves as to why are they weak towards making weak judgement when it comes to men. I'm going to quote what I wrote in another comment about this: It's an interesting point. Especially when you view things like this comic with it in mind. The woman in the comic has eit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/18 12:22 AM |
| 1 | Understanding the male value systemSo what is the measure of the value of a man? Anything you bring to the table which other people find valuable, and anything about you that signalizes that you have traits which can offer something of value to others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/18 12:12 AM |
| 1 | Camille Paglia summarizes the mindset of the Feminist women from min 9:00 to 11:30.I noticed most of the discussion (from both sides here) don't really address the what, two minutes of the video? Which you referred at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/18 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Camille Paglia summarizes the mindset of the Feminist women from min 9:00 to 11:30.How is this relevant to 2018? Well, I think she pretty much describes what may be happening in this comic. What do you think? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/18 11:58 PM |
| 1 | Camille Paglia summarizes the mindset of the Feminist women from min 9:00 to 11:30.The points she makes are that women who have made very poor choices with men then latch on to the excuse of patriarchy and seek comfort of the feminist movement to explain to themselves as to why are they weak towards making weak judgement when it comes to men. It's an interesting point. Especially when you view things like this comic with it in mind. The woman in the comic has either: A. Chosen to marry(and apparently have children with) a man who doesn't give a shit about cleaning the house or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/18 11:57 PM |
| 2 | Why is there no real red pill alternative for women?Yeah the intentions are obvious - just like with TRP. And like trp, the effect is questionable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/18 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Why is there no real red pill alternative for women?What is this nonsense Don't Talk to a Man First (and Don't Ask Him to Dance) Don't Meet Him Halfway or Go Dutch on a Date Don't Call Him and Rarely Return His Calls Always End Phone Calls First Don't Accept a Saturday Night Date after Wednesday Fill Up Your Time before the Date Always End the Date First Stop Dating Him if He Doesn't Buy You a Romantic Gift for Your Birthday or Valentine's Day Don’t See Him More than Once or Twice a Week No More than Casual Kissing on the First Date Like... I thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/18 10:24 AM |
| 1 | [CMV] Men should stop approaching womenI'd consider that an approach. It's not much different from what the PUAs talk about with opinion openers and whatnot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 02:36 PM |
| 1 | [CMV] Men should stop approaching womenSolid advice, can attest to it's effect. Groom, get in OK shape, and just join as many social circles as you can through the institutions available. Suddenly the women will be right there in front of you giving you every sign in the world to take action. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 02:10 PM |
| 1 | [CMV] Men should stop approaching womenEh, I don't think online validation is worth much in the larger picture. She walks around near people every day. That's the feedback which registers with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 02:07 PM |
| 2 | [CMV] Men should stop approaching womenEh, I consider myself a 6-7 looks wise and I've pretty approached a lot of times through my life. Women are rarely as upfront as men are about it though, but if you suddenly randomly find yourself talking to some woman through a "random" interaction, it's usually her who's been finding a bit more of a discrete way to get in touch with you. If she seems interested when you're talking to her, that is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 01:57 PM |
| 3 | [CMV] Men should stop approaching womenNo, normal guys are not incels. This. "Bottom 80%" my ass. It's just as ridiculous as the feminists claiming the overwhelming majority of women experience constant harassment, mansplaining, discrimination and whatnot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 01:55 PM |
| 4 | [CMV] Men should stop approaching women...So guys tell you about it? Or you sit there and listen in on others? If other guys tell you they're called creeps, perverts etc... Then maybe consider it's not the fact that they approach women that is the problem. It's the fact that they're creepy and probably act like perverts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 01:06 PM |
| 3 | [CMV] Men should stop approaching womenIt doesn't happen since I never approach but you can see other guys experiencing it Really? You can tell their experience? That's very impressive. Can you read minds? And really - how much time have you spent watching other men approach women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 12:56 PM |
| 1 | This Father's Day, men are experiencing a crisis of masculinity. The solution? More feminism.I don't think you're correctly understanding the argument I'm making. Could you tell me what you think I'm arguing in the example I made with "Group A" etc? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 12:55 PM |
| 2 | This Father's Day, men are experiencing a crisis of masculinity. The solution? More feminism.So what.. you agree? Disagree? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 12:20 PM |
| 10 | [CMV] Men should stop approaching womenhumiliation, getting called a creep or pervert, "sexual harassment If this happens to you when you approach women the common denominator here is you buddy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 12:15 PM |
| 2 | This Father's Day, men are experiencing a crisis of masculinity. The solution? More feminism.You absolutely did. What does this have to do with feminism? Women saying stupid things on the Internet or someone writing some weird thing is not feminism. "What does that have to do with Islam? Muslims saying good things about the west on the internet or someone writing some good thing is not islam" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 12:08 PM |
| 2 | This Father's Day, men are experiencing a crisis of masculinity. The solution? More feminism.Ok, I'll explain my argument a bit more in detail. Let's say two people are arguing about an arbitrary group - "Group A" Person 1: Group A consists of people who want to protect our environment. Person 2: I disagree. Here is an example of many members of Group A explicitly arguing in favor of pollution. Basically, Person 2 challenges a hypothesis on the composition of Group A with an example which seems not to support the hypothesis. Person 1: Those people are not true members of group A. (No tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 11:28 AM |
| 1 | Choreplay isn’t choreplay- it’s men finally stepping up to the plate and taking on some of the mental loadI'm 100% for equal division of household labor (including non-chore tasks that are typically seen as masculine). But the concept of "Mental Load" is actually a very mentally immature idea, and a sign that the person proposing it has not developed a theory of mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 08:33 AM |
| 2 | This Father's Day, men are experiencing a crisis of masculinity. The solution? More feminism.Pointing out fallacies is typically what people who are poor at arguing do, so go ahead and keep doing that. You could probably not explain to me why it is a fallacy. "No True Scotsman" is a logical fallacy because you keep changing the definitions of whatever you're arguing to suit your argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 08:16 AM |
| 2 | This Father's Day, men are experiencing a crisis of masculinity. The solution? More feminism.Think of it this way: you have two containers. You're saying pouring into both containers at the same time at the same rate is equality. Feminism doesn't believe the containers are equally full to start with and so pouring into both at the same time wouldn't make them any more equally full at the end. Feminism wants to bring both containers to the same level. Pouring into the container that already has more in it doesn't help bring the less full container to parity. This analogy makes sense only… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 07:55 AM |
| 2 | This Father's Day, men are experiencing a crisis of masculinity. The solution? More feminism.Or trying to get rid of this whole idea that men have to be strong and emotionless which is part of the reason that so many of them are committing suicide without even going to anyone for help first. It's a feminist issue as well because this whole "girls are emotional and that's weak" is stupid and what causes men to see it as weak in themselves as well. This is a key point - feminism treats men as defective women. You talk as if the problem is that there's an idea that "Men have to be strong a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 07:51 AM |
| 1 | This Father's Day, men are experiencing a crisis of masculinity. The solution? More feminism.The main problem with the article you cited is that it completely misrepresents Peterson - just like a shitload of other articles. If those articles were talking about feminism in the same lazy way, you'd see phrases like "Feminist suggest that touching a man can lead to a poisonous infection and even death - suggesting that "Toxic masculinity" must be fought" Q4All: Is feminism for men (as a concept where feminism is about relinquishing gender roles)? That depends on what you mean. I think femi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 07:32 AM |
| 3 | Q4W : Why do you say that men who end up getting married to you after you've hd your "fun" are the lucky ones when men explicitly say they would hate it if it happens to the,Ok - so you're saying that commenters in this discussion are claiming that the man should feel lucky that he has been chosen? Maybe I'm blind, but I don't really see it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/18 01:10 PM |
| 3 | Q4W : Why do you say that men who end up getting married to you after you've hd your "fun" are the lucky ones when men explicitly say they would hate it if it happens to the,Sure, but the general ire is that the men somehow is always be supposed to be grateful she choose him. You know, the entire thing somehow implicates that his opinion doesn't really matter. Because what if her choosing him isn't all that special, because he's harboring doubts whether he feels the same about her? How is this "The general ire"? How did you reach this conclusion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/18 12:36 PM |
| 3 | Q4W : Why do you say that men who end up getting married to you after you've hd your "fun" are the lucky ones when men explicitly say they would hate it if it happens to the,I would add those men who suspect that they're more of a consolation prize. Right - that the woman settled. Though what's also very grating about this reasoning is the shamelessly gynocentric approach to that problem: Sure, but this is the way the question is literally framed in the OP and in your comment. There are other ways of describing a marriage which suggests the woman has been lucky - for instance by describing the guy as a "catch". Usually I think whoever appears to have the lowest SMV/… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/18 12:03 PM |
| 3 | Q4W : Why do you say that men who end up getting married to you after you've hd your "fun" are the lucky ones when men explicitly say they would hate it if it happens to the,Why do women insist that men who end up getting married to them after they've had their "fun" are the lucky ones, when men explicitly say they would hate it if it happens to them? I assume they say this because if you get married, you get to have her for life. You're the one she chose. The only men who are offended by this notion are - as you say - men who for one reason or another were excluded from the casual sex market which she (may) have taken part in, and feel some sort of jealousy about t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/18 11:46 AM |
| 3 | [Discussion] what are your opinions about MGTOW?Really? I mean... This is right now: https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/8ryq9x/frustration_level_over_9000/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/8rw2h1/accurate/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/8rtzyq/billy_joel_had_this_to_say_at_his_manchester/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/18 02:22 PM |
| 5 | Is there any common TRP advice that would hurt a guys chance of getting laid?Is there any common TRP advice that would hurt a guys chance of achieving these goals? Everything in that "Shit test encyclopedia". Looks like it's written by a 16 year old and based off of movies he's watched. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/18 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Rate your own SMV and RMV. Are you content with finding someone who matches your own score, or do you want to catch someone with the best SMV and RMV? Or do you have low standards, and will give anyone a shot?You mean redeeming as in relation to my reddit username? Wait, I mentioned I was a 10 right? That's gotta be pretty redeeming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/18 11:39 PM |
| 1 | Rate your own SMV and RMV. Are you content with finding someone who matches your own score, or do you want to catch someone with the best SMV and RMV? Or do you have low standards, and will give anyone a shot?What women say when they're taking me home | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/18 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Rate your own SMV and RMV. Are you content with finding someone who matches your own score, or do you want to catch someone with the best SMV and RMV? Or do you have low standards, and will give anyone a shot?Good question. I think I'm a 10. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/18 01:34 PM |
| 0 | Tl;DR: On the Means of ReproductionEvolution selects for genes that cause men to commit rape because men who rape spread their genes. Functionally speaking, this is an incentive, although the rapist is not aware of the existence of the incentive at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/18 11:59 AM |
| 0 | Tl;DR: On the Means of ReproductionFrom a darwinian point of view, a motivation to rape can evolve simply because it spreads the genes of the rapist. With birth control, women can prevent this from happening, so the (assumed) genetic foundation for rape disappears. The "Darwinian Incentive" is simply that genes spread. It doesn't directly imply what motivates the rapist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/18 02:17 PM |
| 0 | Men: What do you think is the biggest dating challenge for women? Women: What do you think is the biggest dating challenge for men?You can assess it based on how your interaction with the man you're seeing/dating is. If you're always chasing him, you never seem to meet his friends, it takes him a while to respond to messages etc - he's probably above your league in some way. Also, if he talks about stuff like not being ready for something serious right now, or wanting to take things slow, not putting labels on anything etc - it also may be a sign of this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/18 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Men: What do you think is the biggest dating challenge for women? Women: What do you think is the biggest dating challenge for men?I think women's biggest challenge is the abundance of choice, and the effect this has on their thoughts regarding selection of the right partner. I think a lot of women have a very hard time not focusing on flaws in prospective partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/18 01:41 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Are attractive people better or worse in bed? What does logic suggest? What does your experience say?My experience is that attractive women are better generally - with some exceptions. I've had FWBs who who were less attractive than me and who were aware of it, and they displayed a much higher level of effort and assertiveness than the average sexual partner. Other than that - attractive women generally are much more confident and relaxed in my experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/18 01:34 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Nah, I think there’s always ways to take precautions, especially with a guy like me that’s always understanding if women want to date for a while first or find some other information about me such as personal contact or whatever. Guys in their social circle could be equally dangerous or even more so, especially if there is a false sense of security around them. It’s said that the people closest to family are most likely to abuse or molest your children and it could also well be the case that peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/18 12:42 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).I don’t have access to that book right now. Maybe I will give it a look later. It would be helpful if in the mean time you could give me some kind of breakdown of what areas we’re looking at in terms of ‘deal breakers’ (like I gave you some information r.e. Mark Manson) because from where I’m standing, features of attraction still seem to fit into a broad array other than just aesthetics and financial competence. I haven’t heard much about charisma or popularity / quality of social contacts yet,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/18 12:28 PM |
| 2 | Why do men ask out women more than the opposite? Why do women get asked out more than men? Women: What's your secret to getting asked out so often? Men: How do you continue dating despite rejection after rejection?and you just watch how they react when you turn them down, the amount of salt is hilarious Yeah this is so weird. Women do not take rejection well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/18 08:11 AM |
| 6 | Why do men ask out women more than the opposite? Why do women get asked out more than men? Women: What's your secret to getting asked out so often? Men: How do you continue dating despite rejection after rejection?See, other subreddits are full of men saying women should ask them out more, but I suspect this is often the case when it does happen. I think it's a bad circle. Men give women advice to be more forward and ask out men. So the women do this... with guys who are way out of their league. They get rejected and conclude that men don't like being approached. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/18 08:07 AM |
| 2 | Why do men ask out women more than the opposite? Why do women get asked out more than men? Women: What's your secret to getting asked out so often? Men: How do you continue dating despite rejection after rejection?Why do men ask out women more than the opposite? Because we have to (supply and demand) Because we're less risk averse + the risk of asking out a woman (being rejected, feeling stupid) is also way less serious than the risk of asking out a man (you get a stalker/rapist) Why do women get asked out more than men? Evolution. Women evolved to select for male genetic phenotypes in men, and to not approach the opposite gender as much due to the risk of pregnancy. Men: How do you continue dating despit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/18 08:04 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Ok. The trend in the statistics I demonstrated still indicated an increase. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/18 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).-- 25% looks (looks-detractors) ; 25% smarts (inept + clueless) --> undereducated + low income ; 25% character/personality (narcissism, arrogance, entitlement, laziness, carelessness, un-empathetic ; undependable, neuroticism/insecurity/cowardice, disagreeableness, dishonesty/fakeness, cluster A/B/C and/or attachment disorders) ; 25% values [lifestyle and relationship goals] Hahah holy shit how did this get so personal to you? That's quite the wall of text you produced based on a tiny little que… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/18 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).what about the rest of them? What about frequency? Within the last year. For some reason you decided to leave that out. So either researchers somehow managed to capture the one year everyone had casual sex that one time, or it's generally representative of how many people have had casual sex within any given year. And I notice you argued against the notion that people have more sex. Which is funny, because I never claimed people have more sex. I claimed the frequency of Casual sex was rising. Yu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/18 06:35 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Because I don't find your argument worth engaging. I find it hilarious that someone would think that way, I find it half-baked, and I'm going to ridicule you instead. Cry me a river. I'll keep doing it. It's entertaining, and that's mostly why I'm here. Sound more like an excuse to me. What's your argument again? It seems like it's "I can't be wrong .. even though I'm single." Aaaand another strawman. That is vague as hell. You clearly have NOT thought about it. Now I'm starting to understand yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/18 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).You're just repeating yourself at most points here. I'll reply to the things you say which at least have some contributory value: You know this how? You read minds, again? Is there research or data on this topic? Show me. Most people DO have feelings for people they fuck in my experience (I'd say the 80% sociosexually more closed people for sure). Except the really promiscuous people. I don't have any proof of this other than anecdotal proof, but then again neither do you. Your estimate of the s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/18 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).When you go edgelord (yapping about how something is wrong with millennials like a bozo) on me, I'm going to mega-hyperbolically-strawman you hard. Tit for tat. And you're doing it again. It seems every time you are unable to engage properly with an argument, you spew out this nonsense. The only thing anyone needs to understand here is that you NEXT indecisive women. You need to learn to sniff them out like pigs sniff out truffles and tell them to hit the bricks. .. Damn, I need to watch that mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/18 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).In the article – I’m presuming the citations have been edited in correctly, as I haven’t checked them all over very thoroughly – broader shoulders and relatively narrow waists (low waist-to-chest ratio) or masculine facial features, facial symmetry (low fluctuating asymmetry) were the main things mentioned and then only two things not related to physical attractiveness: ability and willingness to provide resources (either the actual amount of resources or ‘traits indicative of potential resource… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/18 03:46 PM |
| 2 | Mindy Kaling’s address to Dartmouth’s men about dating exemplifies the hostile, chilling attitude modern feminism takes towards men.Nah, just y'know, influential editors and thousands of active feminists on twitter. I think what you're trying to say is how you view feminism is as indifferent to men. However, how others practice feminism is hostile to men. It's like, the crusades happen even if you can read "Thou shalt not kill" in the bible. Movements are defined by what they do, not what they claim to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/18 12:21 PM |
| 1 | Mindy Kaling’s address to Dartmouth’s men about dating exemplifies the hostile, chilling attitude modern feminism takes towards men.You could argue that it's a false equivalency, but just flipping around the genders wouldn't be offensive to most women. But you don't agree 100% - do you think it is appropriate to say anything like this at all in this setting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/18 12:12 PM |
| 2 | [Q4RP] Enthusiastic consent: Do you always look for this when fucking?"enthusiastic consent" is NOT "going out of your way for a woman even slightly". It's a standard most men will never be able to meet, and it essentially means 80% of men will be relegated to sexual deserts and "rapist" status. Because they'll never be able to ratchet up that kind of desire in a woman (i.e. a woman who wants to fuck him so badly she's practically screaming FUCK ME NOW), they are de facto rapists every time a woman "consents" to duty sex, maintenance sex, or sex because she's bore… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/18 08:19 AM |
| 1 | How many times have you asked someone out? How many times have you've been asked out?Too many to remember. And how many asked out me? Hm. I'm assuming "Asked out" refers to the first date.... I think that's happened once. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/18 08:08 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: How does a 5/10, 6/10 and 7/10 in terms of attractiveness of the opposite sex look to you?Hm, that's pretty cool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/18 08:02 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: How does a 5/10, 6/10 and 7/10 in terms of attractiveness of the opposite sex look to you?Hah, ok. This is fun. Would you care to show me a 5/6/7 woman in your opinion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: How does a 5/10, 6/10 and 7/10 in terms of attractiveness of the opposite sex look to you?.#1 still has her plump lips, and an oval, female facial shape before makeup. Her chin is in NO way wide or masculine, I don't think you can honestly argue that. #5 has a round face, still plump lips - again this one is a maybe. And finally #9 has a very feminine heart shaped face, plump lips and big eyes. I'm guessing you're a woman? I think we notice different things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 10:56 PM |
| 2 | [Q4RP] Enthusiastic consent: Do you always look for this when fucking?Yup. Same thing goes for pretty much every point of escalation. If she doesn't seem that into it - slow down and have fun with the stage you're at. She'll get into it eventually at her own pace. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: How does a 5/10, 6/10 and 7/10 in terms of attractiveness of the opposite sex look to you?1, maybe #5 (not easy to tell from the angle), and #9 perfectly illustrate my point. Those women have attractive faces even without the makeup. The rest of the women do not, and this is entirely due to their facial shape. Coincidentally, the 3 women who look best without makeup also look best with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 10:41 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] How does a man quickly tell if a woman is attracted to him?You have to respond to her level of physical contact, or start at a very innocent level. For instance - she says something you find funny, or you're having an engaging conversation that's obviously flowing well. As you say something, you can lightly touch her shoulder for a few seconds. If she likes you, she will definitely reciprocate some way physically to this. And then (if you're in a proper setting) you can slowly start touching in a bit of a more intimate way, making sure that she replies … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 10:30 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] How does a man quickly tell if a woman is attracted to him?accidentally" bumping into you Not to mention the classic "accidental" boobs first bump. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 10:25 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] How does a man quickly tell if a woman is attracted to him?The replies you're getting in this thread aren't very useful. Humans have physiological reactions that are completely out of anyone's control which you can look for to see if someone likes you. For instance - her pupils grow larger when she looks at you, her eyes look like this either a lot of the time or when she first sees you. This happens to men too. Additionally her voice pitch is higher than normal when she talks to you if she finds you attractive. And this is just the thing that's 100% ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 10:23 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).But you want her to think you're a sure thing. Uncertainty is the death of trust and relationships are built on trust. It takes forever to build and a moment to destroy. Do you not understand this? I'm obviously not talking about not being a sure thing once you've gone beyond the stage of simply dating and you're actually in a relationship. You're missing something. We have two groups of people here: 1) Women from younger (early 20s) couples who get and stay together 2) Women who get into LTRs i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Uh... yeah. Clubs, drugs and Tinder, BRO!!!! END OF THE WORLD!!! No. And yet another ridiculous hyperbolic straw man statement instead of actually engaging with what I'm saying. This is getting kind of repetitive. I have no idea how this connects to what you're saying. Some woman found AND kept a guy after moving. So what? I used this as an example of how maybe someone's abundance of options could have influenced her inability to stick with any of them. If you fail to see how this connects to an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Mindy Kaling’s address to Dartmouth’s men about dating exemplifies the hostile, chilling attitude modern feminism takes towards men.Ask any woman the things she does to make sure she’s safe on a new date. You may be shocked st the answers. I've had that discussed tons of times with different women. Answers typically range from "I have my friend send me a text message at a given time and pre-planned code words that mean different things" (The most cautious I've heard) to "I don't think about that at all.". I'm not really under the impression that being scared around men and treating every date as a potential rapist is particu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: How does a 5/10, 6/10 and 7/10 in terms of attractiveness of the opposite sex look to you?I don't have one. This prize is looking worse and worse by the minute . Now I have to buy a microwave? Preposterous! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 09:02 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: How does a 5/10, 6/10 and 7/10 in terms of attractiveness of the opposite sex look to you?Eh, I can demonstrate with my examples: https://d36tnp772eyphs.cloudfront.net/blogs/1/2015/09/woman-smile-beanie-sidewalk.jpg Even if you remove makeup - she still has the same facial shape, the same plump lips, and the same sized eyes. Her eyebrows may be different, her eyelids may be less visible, her lips obviously less red - but you'll still be able to see her attractive features easily. Same goes for this one: https://static8.depositphotos.com/1367359/875/i/450/depositphotos_8754028-stock-p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Mindy Kaling’s address to Dartmouth’s men about dating exemplifies the hostile, chilling attitude modern feminism takes towards men.I think you're vastly overestimating the amount of people who are even aware of something like TRP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 11:31 AM |
| 4 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?I don't think it's the same. You don't have a mainstream "Height positivity" movement. There are "Minus height" male models being pushed into the mainstream as some sort of progressive message. I agree with you about the fact that fat women act a lot like short men, but when it comes to the way society views those complaints - it's clearly not the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 11:11 AM |
| 1 | Mindy Kaling’s address to Dartmouth’s men about dating exemplifies the hostile, chilling attitude modern feminism takes towards men.I think teaching young boys about how female sexuality would be a great start. And the opposite. Right now it's basically guesswork for kids - trial and error. Mostly for the guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 11:02 AM |
| 0 | How good are you at recognizing fake orgasms?I honestly have no idea. My impression is that most women stop making any sound when they orgasm, kind of hold their breath, their body tenses up, sometimes they'll dig their nails into your back or clench the bedsheets - and then after a few seconds they'll suddenly "return". I'm kind of genetically blessed down there, so most women tend to appear at least to me to enjoy what I'm doing very much, and to genuinely orgasm when they do orgasm. If they don't come and they are the type who typically… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 10:45 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: How does a 5/10, 6/10 and 7/10 in terms of attractiveness of the opposite sex look to you?It's interesting. I think I'm operating under the(maybe flawed?) assumption that very few women(or men) are genuinely unattractive, and that most people can become at least somewhat attractive through stuff like losing weight, working out, grooming etc. I've always thought that most guys can become a 6 or something like that (if you exclude non-changeable factors such as height or serious defects). But maybe I just don't see a large chunk of the population at all. Maybe they're not my friends. M… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 10:28 AM |
| 2 | Mindy Kaling’s address to Dartmouth’s men about dating exemplifies the hostile, chilling attitude modern feminism takes towards men."Girls, imagine that every guy you have sex with at work will make you pregnant." Haha what chill it's just a joke | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 10:18 AM |
| 1 | Mindy Kaling’s address to Dartmouth’s men about dating exemplifies the hostile, chilling attitude modern feminism takes towards men.We're just stating the facts about men. If I pointed out that a large amount of men are rapists or have rapist tendencies - is that hostility? What do you think about the thing she said in the OP? Let's switch it around, imagine a conservative speaker saying the following: "Girls, when you at work in the future, imagine that there is a hidden camera present which records everything. It shouldn't take that in order for you not to sleep with your manager for a promotion, but if that's what it take… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 10:16 AM |
| 3 | Mindy Kaling’s address to Dartmouth’s men about dating exemplifies the hostile, chilling attitude modern feminism takes towards men.Most guys have never forced themselves on a woman. You must be lying here. It doesn't take "most men". It takes something like 1 man in 100 who never gets called out on it and keeps doing it. I totally believe that most women have experienced this. Because a very small fraction of men are extremely perverted and have absolutely no boundaries. What isn't talked about enough in the #metoo are the other issues that surround this: The guys who get away with this stuff are usually attractive, popular… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 10:10 AM |
| 3 | Mindy Kaling’s address to Dartmouth’s men about dating exemplifies the hostile, chilling attitude modern feminism takes towards men.No, feminism is not hostile to men. It's indifferent, you perceive indifference as hostility. Right. Which explains stuff like #killallmen perfectly. Wait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 09:52 AM |
| 3 | Mindy Kaling’s address to Dartmouth’s men about dating exemplifies the hostile, chilling attitude modern feminism takes towards men.I am scared around men. I treat each guy I date as if he were a potential rapist otherwise it’s my fault. Fixed that for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 09:50 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: How does a 5/10, 6/10 and 7/10 in terms of attractiveness of the opposite sex look to you?Of course they're wearing makeup in their photos. What I'm saying is that most people would recognize them as pretty even without makeup. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 09:38 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: How does a 5/10, 6/10 and 7/10 in terms of attractiveness of the opposite sex look to you?You get some hot pockets from me. I will send them in the mail. But that will make them cold pockets. Or room temperature pockets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 09:37 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: How does a 5/10, 6/10 and 7/10 in terms of attractiveness of the opposite sex look to you?Looking at that curve makes me think that ratings - the way people talk about them - aren't really based on a normal distribution curve. But again - maybe I'm overlooking the fact that this curve also includes old, fat, disabled women and those are invisible to me. I don't know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 09:27 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: How does a 5/10, 6/10 and 7/10 in terms of attractiveness of the opposite sex look to you?No, it's a bell curve. Like most human metrics. The shape of all bell curves isn't equal you know. Standard deviations differ in range. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 09:24 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: How does a 5/10, 6/10 and 7/10 in terms of attractiveness of the opposite sex look to you?Really? What would you rate these: https://cdn.thegentlemansjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Nicole-Harrison-1-900x600-c-center.jpg https://www.spring.org.uk/images/woman-12.jpg https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZY6GaaIUEj9_vG0ao4mRibuGwGDCrWFEci7oWWl0EzZVWX28ZPw https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/jessica-alba-1-2000.jpg | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 09:20 AM |
| 4 | Q4ALL: How does a 5/10, 6/10 and 7/10 in terms of attractiveness of the opposite sex look to you?Yep, 7-8: Hot, but not a knockout. 90% of women fall into this category. If a woman isn't fat, and doesn't have a deformity she's hot, and all but top tier men will compete for her. But lacking in many features that really make you go "wow!". 90% of women are hot? Wow. Got a picture with an example? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 09:12 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).That's because you couldn't keep them around with your honest self, dude. It's you. You lack something in the attractiveness department (most likely not looks, but smarts, personality/character and LTR values). No issues with the mindset. The mindset is perfect. Right - that would be the simple and easy explanation. Or you can look at the rising amount of single millennials in the entire western world and ask yourself maybe if there's something happening on a more systemic scale that doesn't add… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 09:10 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Does that little bit of anticipation really matter? I mean really. Be honest here. Yes, I believe so. It's one of many little things that may make her think you're not a "sure thing" yet. If they can't deal with too much choice, they are lacking smarts and/or have personality/character or LTR values defects. They clearly don't really know what they want. That's a downgraded RMV tier right there. Actually, this is something that affects most people What makes those younger women who get into happ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 08:28 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: How does a 5/10, 6/10 and 7/10 in terms of attractiveness of the opposite sex look to you?Sure - it's just interesting to see what people think of when they use that system. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 08:01 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: How does a 5/10, 6/10 and 7/10 in terms of attractiveness of the opposite sex look to you?Interesting. But yes - the average woman usually doesn't trigger anything in me. I think the normal distribution for looks is a bit more flat than what you illustrate here though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 08:01 AM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: How does a 5/10, 6/10 and 7/10 in terms of attractiveness of the opposite sex look to you?Please explain how your OP is any different. What do I win? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 10:17 PM |
| 6 | Mindy Kaling’s address to Dartmouth’s men about dating exemplifies the hostile, chilling attitude modern feminism takes towards men.When you go on dates, act as if every woman you're talking to is a reporter for an online publication that you are scared of. Me: Soooooo how's your online publication going? Her: I don't write for an - Me: OHPLEASEGODIMSOSORRY DONT HURT ME WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THAT FORK OH GOD YOU'RE GOING TO STAB ME ARENT YOU Edit: Or am I afraid of the online publication? That's how it's worded. This advice is confusing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What's your opinion on these "Dating requirements" videosYeah lol that was a bit extreme. I can see a general preference for "older", since I myself have a general preference for "younger". But that was... oddly specific. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).This feels fake and/or forced. It most certainly comes off that way. Sure, that was maybe a bad example - I see your point. I am not suggesting that you should pretend to be busy if you're not. The point of that comment was that you can create some excitement and anticipation. In the situation I described, you already say yes to the date - but she's wondering when it will be. The other example I used was creating situations where sex isn't an option early on in order to build tension. Also, I do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).With regard to "letting her develop feelings at her own pace" -- again, this is malarkey if you're doing nightlife or online dating. Being in limbo mode where a potential couple's attraction to one another is hard to gauge is a mindfuck (to me most certainly) - I would avoid putting myself or anyone sane into that position. If you're not making her want to chase you after 1-3 dates (for a lack of better way to put it), it means: I'm not talking about attraction here. I'm talking about being cons… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4MEN: Would you commit to a woman who is perfect in every way but except for her physical appearance?Probably. I'm a 6-7 myself. Most attractive women I've been with are around 8. I think my "happy point" is someone who I rate as a 7. Everything above that is great, but other things are more important once she's above that threshold. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 03:19 PM |
| 3 | Where did this underlying idea that women make better choices then men come from?This really lines up with my experience. I'm almost 30 now, and I remember that in my early 20s women who liked me would just go "all in" from the start as long as they were attracted to me, thinking that they could change whatever part of me they thought needed changing. Mid-late 20s women seem to be a lot more picky on a lot more factors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 12:06 PM |
| 1 | Where did this underlying idea that women make better choices then men come from?I think that thread is more about their accountability for their choices. For instance, as I wrote in that post, the woman in this comic does not hold herself accountable for her own choice in her partner. She has likely chosen a man who has a very different view than she has on orderliness. Her (in my view) options are either to A: Discuss this openly with her husband, get his view of the story, agree on distribution of chores. This might involve compromise from her. or B: Abandon the relations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 11:45 AM |
| 1 | Why do women date assholes and then complain about male assholishness being a systemic issue?I discussed something similar a while ago in relation to this comic. The exact same issue appears here. The woman in the comic has chosen to marry and have a child with a man who (according to her) does not do enough around the house. She does not communicate this to him (or at least - she makes no mention of it). Instead, she magically expects him to read her mind and see the world her way. He obviously does not. And instead of understanding that she chose a man who does not think like her in t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 11:34 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).If there is a study that can prove these are baseline/core values and specify a relatively narrow range of preferences for them Studies on this stuff is readily available. But you're probably already aware of most of it. Wikipedia is always a great place to start(it has references): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mating_preferences#Male_physical_attractiveness There are also some evolutionary psychologists like Geoffrey Miller who may be worth listening to for some insights that may not be as int… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 11:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: What's your opinion on these "Dating requirements" videosIf you want the average height difference or taller, doesnt that mean she eliminates half the dating pool given she is average height. Yes. I don't think that's unreasonable. If you're a 5/10 looks wise you also likely eliminate half of the dating population with your preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 09:26 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Funny, because your OP was based on other classic PUA crap. Text "game" (overthinking something quite basic), fake DHV by acting busier than you are, pacing your meetings without necessity, etc. So by text "game" you mean the part where I said you should try to maintain some balance in who contacts who? Is this "Overthinking" to you? If it is, you have a very low bar for that term. And for the rest of this.... You keep bringing up straw men, but can't point them out. Strawman example: "fake DHV … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).That and what the heck does the US have to do with your Scandinavian dating problems? Again, I'm arguing that everyone uses it, and I think this applies to most of the western world. I think dating apps get an undeserved bad rep. And once you look at other populations than the college aged one, the stats suddenly look different, for isntance: https://www.bustle.com/p/how-many-people-who-meet-on-dating-apps-get-married-swiping-isnt-just-for-hookups-44359 Although this doesn't tell you how many ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 09:05 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Could you please link me towards a ‘consistent finding’ that supports a more universal theory of female attraction. Do you really need me to find sources the claims that women are attracted to masculine physical traits, symmetry, height, status, resources, various health markers etc? All I know is that the study matches my own experience with and what I intuitively know about women, and probably does the same for most of other guys if we’re honest with ourselves. I'm sure you know what I'm going… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Original study as referenced through Mark Manson: Models. Based on what I've researched about the study after wards, this all seems pretty accurate (as well as the fact it matches my own experiences - e.g. girls acting all crazy in night club settings one minute and then being all over you another minute). You should read about the replication crisis which has ravaged certain areas of the field of psychology. I don't have any particular sources right now on the individual studies, but I do remem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 08:28 PM |
| 4 | Q4All: What's your opinion on these "Dating requirements" videosIt's a hobby for her. It doesn't seem that weird to me that she would want someone who participates. I think it absolutely does as a criteria for dating someone. It's like a guy who puts up "Watches football" or "Actively plays league of legends" as a criteria. You're shrinking your dating pool to a ridiculous size. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy)."The Tao of Badass" .. are you shitting me? It's like something marketed to teenagers LOL. You can't be serious. Some random jackass wrote something and you assume it's going to solve your love life problems? Maybe if you're starting at zero... .... YES THAT'S MY POINT THAT IS PUA PUA IS RETARDED ASPERGERS SHIT Where is the strawman? Quote me and show this. I targeted specific statements you made in the OP in my first reply to you. You literally created a new straw man in this very reply. If you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Yes, and it blatantly shows that those people often don't even meet people they talk to on Tinder. It's validation and mindless entertainment. It is most certainly not prime relationship seeking tool. What do you not understand? I never said it was a "prime relationship seeking tool". I said everyone uses it. Of course not literally everyone, but my impression is that more or less every single person who is single uses it (practically speaking), with people usually taking breaks if they've had b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Your experience reads like a regurgitation of a PUA manual. Hmmff.. wonder why. If you seriously believe this you have never ever read anything ever written by a PUA. All context-dependent as I said before (react accordingly to how she's acting), so there is nothing more to add here. Wow, I wonder If I wrote something like that somewhere in the op... Well that much we already sussed out when I told you to stop pretending to be able to read minds. I just know there's almost NO chance they encount… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 06:19 PM |
| 3 | Persinal advice thread: textingBased on my conversations with this guy in another thread, he met some woman at 21 who he's still with at 30, and is completely convinced that since he remembers this as happening naturally, everyone who are having thoughts about how to approach dating are "Over-analyzing" everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 10:11 AM |
| 1 | Persinal advice thread: textingI was just hoping to get some feedback from the guys. Do you assume a girl isn't interested in you if she takes a while to reply to texts? It very much depends on the girl. You should just tell him that you don't like texting and that you hope he doesn't think you're about to ghost him because of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 10:08 AM |
| 18 | Q4All: What's your opinion on these "Dating requirements" videosSome of the requirements by the women are a bit weird. Likes taking selfies? Lol, what? Tiffany's height requirement isn't really that bad, she wants their height difference to more or less be equal to the average height difference between men and women. Not wanting a younger guy is also pretty common. I think what those videos demonstrate is that you most likely have to compromise on something. I think for Tiffany, it's probably hard to combine the desire for an older man with the desire not to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 09:53 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Sure it is. You're trying out bullshit you read in the Internet to try and influence other people (women in your life) - often no doubt to the detriment of the results you actually want. The OP is literally comprised of my ideas based on my own experience. None of this is "from the internet". You seem to keep trying to construct this straw man all the time. Uhuh, except I see people pair off without doing weird shit all the time. I'm in touch with the with only part of the dating scene anyone sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 09:13 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).You can do whatever you want - I didn't fabricate the data. You're just seemingly allergic to it. Cognitive dissonance, I guess. The only data you're referring to is a survey of what college students say they want to use tinder for in the period 2015-2017. That doesn't mean Tinder isn't for dating. Wait, you're not from the US? Are you ethnic? Where do you live? Scandinavia. https://i.imgur.com/kPrvGtH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/MfQuZpy.png https://i.imgur.com/3llZPKK.png You probably just pulled s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 09:04 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Have you ever changed your mind about, or regained attraction in a man?This is exactly the dynamic I'm interested in exploring here. Like - does she genuinely believe that you've changed? Or are you just one weak moment away from her thinking "Not again! I knew it!" Human memory is extremely malleable, so in theory she could - if you were to rise from zero to hero - possibly reinterpret her memories in a way that indicates "You went through hell and back", and that this illustrated your strength of character and why she admires you so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/18 09:17 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Here’s the original study. I'm a big fan of Buss, and I would consider myself pretty well read in evolutionary pscyhology. I'm not sure you're representing any of it correctly though. So, what about men that can seduce women in a day or less than a couple of hours? Also this just makes it harder because it means I have to sustain their interests for longer than just a couple of dates and find a way to stay in contact as well (a lot of women I talked to are ‘just not really that texty’ or some ot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/18 09:11 PM |
| 5 | Thoughts on this youtube video?I think this is pretty legit - with one exception. He claims that women like men who act disinterested - I don't agree with that. I think it's important to openly display interest as soon as possible. However, you will drive girls away if you start giving off the impression that you need them, or that you're a sure thing who she 100% certainly can have anytime she wants. She should know that there's a chance - but she shouldn't be under the impression that there's no competition or that she can … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/18 08:02 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Have you ever changed your mind about, or regained attraction in a man?There are levels for instance I can be a little turned off by something but not lose my overall attraction to a guy. But if the attraction is gone completely then in my experience it's gone for good. Right - this is what I suspect. Hypothetically though - do you think you could regain attraction if the guy went through some pretty huge change? Let's say maybe he had been a bit overweight, and he got into very good shape. Or he became very successful - maybe even famous. Would any of it matter at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/18 12:18 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Have you ever changed your mind about, or regained attraction in a man?I've lost attraction momentarily, but nothing huge. Like a couple months ago, my boyfriend got food poisoning. He was not sexually attractive that night lol, but I don't think that's really what you're looking for. I've never seriously lost attraction to a man and regained it. Yeah, I'm more thinking like - You dated someone for a while. You are initially very interested, but for some reason you lose interest during the dating process. Then, at a later time, something changes and your interest r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/18 11:48 AM |
| 1 | Even if Artificial Wombs become a Reality, Society Should Outright Prohibit Single Men from Creating Children on Their Own.Secondly, allowing single men to reproduce is circumventing the mechanism by which species evolve: Survival of the Fittest. I assume you don't support sperm donation then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/18 10:47 AM |
| 1 | Advice for your past self?I would say as Yoda did: "This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph. Adventure. Heh! Excitement. Heh! A Jedi craves not these things." I would tell myself to keep chasing my goals - but to pay more attention to the chances that appear right in front of me. I had many high quality women who wanted something serious with me - yet I was too focused on learning "Game". Or at leas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/18 10:39 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Ok, but you effectively dismissed the findings of the study. I didn't see you make any counter citations. You didn't cite anything. Pretty hard to talk specifics when I don't know the details of the study you're talking about. This is key. You have to sustain their interests and demonstrate comfort (show you're not some rapist) long enough to stay around and get to know you, go on a first date with you, etc. This is way harder to do IRL because the girls are on their guard you also don't have th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/18 02:35 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Irrationality and diversity of female attraction. You said that the study by the Austin institute was pseudoscience and that there is as much universality in women's preferences as men. Now when I talk about women's preferences for cool, suave, dominant, charismatic and masculine men, you say that not all women are like that and they have many different preferences - which feeds into the irrational female attraction phenomenon indicated by the Austin study (which you already dismissed). I didn't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/18 04:07 PM |
| 2 | [Discussion] Chad is a stupid term that men use to blame women.I agree that a lot of reddit men whine about Chad, but still.... If you continually get rejected/ghosted by men, it's because you're shooting out of your league. It's not because he's an asshole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/18 12:40 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).I'll explain. According to most research, men value youth, looks and health in women. While women value looks, health, status and resources in men. So don't you think there's a possibility that the women who marry more wealthy men may have compromised on areas such as looks -which are more important to men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/18 12:36 AM |
| 1 | MGTOW is rising, male celibacy has doubled in the past 10 yearsOk - where the hell is this statistic from? What's the source? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/18 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).... You're just repeating your statement. Did you see my question? I'll repeat it. It's not the first time you've selectively ignored part of my comment: But how do you think those couples compare in attractiveness? You think maybe there's a trade-off? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/18 12:26 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).This is an unfounded assumption. You are basing this off of pure speculation. Unless you have some data that shows in any way that 1. Women generally take better pictures and 2. Women rate men's attractiveness low because men take poor pictures, then you are, again, pulling this out of your ass. Yes. This is speculation. I've tried to make that point a bazillion times now, and I'm tired of you accusing me of claiming that what I say is fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/18 12:23 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).I already said women have very broad ranging tastes and preferences when I said that female attraction was less universal than men and that it was essentially an irrational phenomena. You said the source I cited was pseudoscience, essentially but now your saying the same thing as what I did, essentially. Whatever different preferences women have, they tend to be extremely specific and the more attractive the woman the more sexual economic bargaining power she has therefore the more she can enfor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/18 12:17 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Oh yes I don't doubt that women often marry men who earn more than them. But how do you think those couples compare in attractiveness? You think maybe there's a trade-off? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Oh I bet it sucks, but so does your current approach to dealing with the sucky dating. No idea how you screwed up that college relationship of yours, but it sounds weird. I didn't "Screw up" anything. We weren't right for one another. This isn't very uncommon, which you're probably aware of if you have friends. Actually, yes, given some other details (like age!). Single at 20? Not batting an eye. Single at 30 and serial dating? Yup, something is wrong somewhere. Odds of it being "just bad luck n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 11:25 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Dude, people of PPD agreeing with you means that a bunch of people with problems agree with you. This place is literally run by and full of oddballs: virgins or overly promiscuous people, people with relationship problems and other life problems...including lots of autistic people. I have none of these problems .. wonder why (I'm here to laugh at the stupid shit the Manospherians post, mostly). It's like having your mom agree with you on cooking tips while ignoring the guy that cooks at a succes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).I agree with 1, and 4. The others are I believe are in your ball park to prove that those are a factor that need to be considered and aren't already present by the very virtue that a person is seeking a mate. Don't you think #2 is intuitively reasonable? I mean, I hope I don't have to prove to you that there are ways you can take photos of yourself that are more flattering than others. When you combine this with the fact(could probably dig up some studies on this if you doubt it) that most women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 03:20 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: At what age did you lose your virginity? If you're RP, was this before or after RP?Had some obvious chances from the day I turned 15 though which I failed to capitalize on. When I turned 18 I pretty much said "I'll sleep with the next girl I hook up with". And that happened a few weeks earlier. I thought I was a late bloomer back then, but it turns out to be the average age of losing one's virginity. A lot of my male friends simply lied about when they lost theirs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 01:10 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).About the causal relationship between the OKC studies and the population in general? Well, that would be the following (based on the 2008 sample): Conclusive evidence demonstrating that women's ratings of pictures of men correlate strongly with their ratings of seeing the men in person Conclusive evidence that ratings of picture quality have no significant correlation with ratings of attractiveness Conclusive evidence that the consequences of rating in an online dating setting ("NAME likes you!"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 01:08 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).I believe that the fact that female OKC users in 2008 rated most male profiles as below average is not sufficient information to conclude that "Women are hypergamous in general and have a distorted view of attraction". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 12:50 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).This is a single factor you are indeed using to dismiss the data. Ok this is getting annoying. I am not dismissing the data. I am talking about ..... ok let's try it again. If I found a sample from beatifulpeople.com where women rated most men as attractive, would you say that this is conclusive proof that women find all men attractive? Why not? Women are hypergamous and have a distorted sense of attractiveness in such a way that most men aren't seen as attractive to them. You are assuming a fac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 12:35 PM |
| 1 | What do you make of this story? Woman is attacked but doesn't blame the attacker. Instead blames "white men" for not helping her.Apparently male dominance and implied threats of violence aren't always a bad thing. I think the problem is that they don't understand that men who keep society safe practice exercising dominance and threatening violence when they're children by the way they interact. It's natural for boys to pretend-fight, play violent games, compete, and use their creativity to imagine very violent scenarios. There's nothing "Toxically masculine" about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 12:07 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).No this is not self evident in any way. You are just making up reasons why you think women would rate most men 3 out of 10 or less in attractiveness. You are using litearlly 0 DATA to back up your claim. Ok, so let me get this straight: You are seriously claiming that the ratings pulled from OKC are in no way whatsoever influenced by the type of people who use OKC, or the consequences that rating someone highly has on OKC? That's mindboggling that you would dismiss findings with no data what so … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 12:04 PM |
| 1 | What kind of educational programs can improve relationship/sex outcomes for men?Teach boys about selection selection, evolutionary psychology and about what women find attractive and how to see when they find something attractive. I think this would motivate tons of lazy young men to take some responsibility for their lives. Just look at the effect someone like Jordan Peterson is having. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 11:24 AM |
| 2 | What do you make of this story? Woman is attacked but doesn't blame the attacker. Instead blames "white men" for not helping her.Finally I like to (semi-)jokingly say that with the rising number of immigrants here in Germany and the rise in sexually motivated assaults that comes with it, women better start behaving more submissive and thankful towards masculine guys, because they will be needing them very much in the future and they don't want to risk them just looking away when they get hit in their blue haired head. Haha yes, this is a good point. Those middle class white males probably were taught that violence and dom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 11:20 AM |
| 1 | What do you make of this story? Woman is attacked but doesn't blame the attacker. Instead blames "white men" for not helping her.I remember when I grew up, there was an incident near where I lived where a guy got stabbed to death because he was trying to protect a random woman from a violent man. After this incident, my mother and older sister would constantly tell me to never interfere in situations like that: don't try to be a hero, remember that what matters is yourself and those closest to you. Even given the situation at hand, I'm pretty sure this is exactly the same type of advice this fashion CEO gives both her son… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 11:18 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).What evidence do you have to support this To support what? That the population composition of OKC, the consequence of rating a man higher (which on OKC if I remember correctly is getting the message "(Username) likes you!"), the quality of photos men use, and the gender ratio of OKC likely influence those stats? This is self-evident. Those are the variables that exist in the setting where the statistics are pulled out. Are you saying that it's because men simply take bad pictures? What evidence … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 11:05 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Hahahhaha.. "Check your schedule" .. what are you, Vladimir Putin? Jamie Dimon? You just sound like a dolt saying that who doesn't have control over his life. Or that you're dodging her. Fail or fail. Thanks for the laugh. I'm sure you mind-read all the girls you bullshitted like this and just felt them get all tingly and moist. Don't pretend like you can know what happens for what reason in situations like that. I'm not pretending to know anything. I made this post to discuss my impression of d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 10:54 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Find newer data that supports your view. Otherwise, you're just making up bullshit about everyone else based on your own failures and social circle. I've never made any affirmative scientific claims, and I don't really care to do extensive research to prove this. If you don't believe me - fine. We just disagree there. Uhuh, and where are these women now, Cassanova? You're dating low RMV women with personality disorders, almost certainly. That's my bet. This isn't a very productive contribution t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 10:47 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Other traits not mentioned: being naturally cool or suave, excellent communicator, good at sustaining interests about a broad array of shared worldly interests, ability to control the flow and direction of a group conversation, natural ability to influence and charm other people (women and men), natural ability to network socially. A lot of these are things that can be improved but some of it is genetic and people with average or low EQs e.g. such as with guys with asperger's can't do any of tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 10:09 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).No, I think those studies show that women on OKC rate pictures of men on OKC in accordance with that pattern. Tons of other variables such as the type of males that frequent OKC, the consequence of rating a man highly, the gender ratio, and (most importantly) the photo quality that the men use influences this. An average guy using tinder with some decent pictures will get matches and dates with average girls | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 01:15 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).This is equivelent because most healthy woman have pretty much the same basic features. High voice, breast, wide hips, womb. But most guys aren't 6 feet or higher. That is a relatively rare trait. And the amount of guys over 6 feet who make over 60k is even rarer. Yet most women want these guys. How can this work? That depends on what you mean by "want". Most guys "want" a billionaire 19-year old supermodel. It doesn't mean that's where they place the bar. I think most women want what I wrote in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).I really like the point about deal breakers you mentioned. I one time was with a girl that we both were really into each other, and were cooking food at my place. I recently moved and for some reason or another didn't have a can opener, which was something absolutely tiny but probably planted the seed in her mind that I'm not a functioning adult as a week later her parents gave me grief on it (who doesn't own one??) and soon after that she broke things off. Yeah - stuff like that can happen. You… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 01:04 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).I'm not going solely on this but there was an OK cupid chart which showed men pretty much rated women on an even bell curve of attraction indicating they had a more realistic view of how attractive women were with most women being average, some being unattractive and some being attractive which is how you'd expect averages to work mathematically. Women on the other hand rated most guys as unattractive, some average and only a few as very attractive. That's just going on looks though. It's not ju… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 01:00 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Who is to decide what value is? Your biology, as well as the culture which creates the setting in which resources can be utilized. So lets say a woman who makes 40k a year wants a man who has at least double her income, like many japanese women, is she being picky because she wants a man who is double her value? Depends on what she's offering in return. If she wants someone who earns twice her income, yet doesn't compromise on anything else - yes that's obviously picky, she's asking for more tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 12:45 AM |
| 1 | CMV: the blues here are redder than 90% of redditI have no idea, unfortunately. Wish I did. But yeah, after "The Apprentice: White House Edition" started airing, SJW behavior has started to go a bit nuts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 12:37 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Everyone you know is probably in the same boat. That means nothing about everyone else. Let's look at reality: https://mic.com/articles/112062/the-way-most-people-meet-their-significant-others-is-not-what-you-think#.ZKZWQNZln 2015 Data. Post Tinder and Online dating. Hmm... Seeing some evidence here of why OLD is still not the way people meet SOs. That article is over 3 years old. Tinder started going big in what, 2014? 2014 is the date of the other study mentioned there - there's no date for th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 12:29 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).If she's actually into you, none of this shit matters one bit. It's a mindfuck game. That means it's for losers who can't reliably make a girl go crazy for them. Leaving on a high note is the only thing I can get behind. No need to let bad emotions brews. I thought so for a long time. If she's absolutely crazy for you and you're the best choice she's got - sure, none of this matters. Especially if you've been around her a lot as friends and she's basically already fallen for you. If she's active… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 11:51 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).I'm going to have to disagree with this. Women are very picky. What they find "attractive" could be a ridiculous standard. It is very common for a woman to overvalue her SMV which leads to her not finding men attractive who would be nearer to her actual SMV. If she is 5'6,she may want a man who is taller than her. Which means she is cutting out all men below 5'6, which is a huge part of the population. I don't think wanting a taller man is being picky. The average man is around 10-15cm taller th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).It is interesting that mental illness is so easily discarded as a worthy discussion topic on incel subs and everyone goes straight to blaming and talking about looks. Well, obsession with looks is a mental disorder. It's called body dysmorphic disorder. I'm not that convinced that everyone on the incel forum has a mental disorder. I saw a poll recently indicating that 20% of Norwegian 25 year old men were virgins. This is not comparable to the prevalence of mental disorders. And I've worked in a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesYou say this like it's a woman thing, but I've had male roommates agree to a system and then just never fill out the sheet.... so it in effect was pointless. You just nag them about filling out the sheet instead. Don't get me wrong - I've had male roommates like this as well. A lot of men are just lazy. But a lot of women create their own world of stress by refusing to let anyone else have a say in how anything should be done. They just assume that everyone around them should intuitively underst… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesWell obviously you have to use the system in order for it to work. A boat isn't the "end all" system for crossing a lake if you just sit on the ground either. Systems of accountability give you a concrete way to discuss housework, in contrast to the idea of "mental load" which is completely useless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 02:29 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesYou say that like those things necessarily get to places. What? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesNext time women complain about mental load, better remind them it's perceived and no one is forcing it on them. Yeah, I think this also applies to ideas like women feeling pressure to look good etc. Externalizing internal mental states. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 01:11 PM |
| 1 | I'm crossposting this to the various "Pill" Subreddits to see how entrenched people are in their beliefs and to see if there is common ground that can be bridged.The only RP idea that I really agree with is that women are hypergamous, if you believe the definition of hypergamy is just that women are only sexually attracted to men who believe have a “high value” quality in their mind, compared to men who can still be sexually attracted to a woman who is his inferior in every way. I think that it would be fairly easy to convince any Blue Piller that, in general, men and women are different in this way. What would you regard as "high value"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 12:55 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).He actually has to be the prize for this to work. If he's not, it's actually the worst advice you can give to someone. I think it's pretty vague advice tbh. How exactly does "The prize" act? As I wrote above - I think this dynamic is much better recreated by making her act as if you're the prize by chasing you. Some PUA advice (leave on a high note, don't bee too available etc) is legit in this regard. I think that by building up tension (lots of physical flirting), not revealing full interest i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 12:50 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).I get what you're saying. When you start attempting to reduce relationships to stuff like "Displaying dominance" or "dread game", it gives a bad gut feeling. If you read what I'm saying here though , emotions are a key part of how I think dating works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 12:38 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Given how fickle women can be, how they can appear to be all over you only to withdraw for some arbitrary reason because you did some exotic detail wrong (or because she met something she considered hotter), you're shooting yourself in the foot if you put all your eggs in one basket. I think the speed that modern dating has is the main culprit behind this. It takes most women again about 2 months to develop feelings for someone. If the relationship is moving forward faster than that, she suddenl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 12:11 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).This is pretty much my experience as a 6-8 male. OP says you can instinctively tell your "league" but it seems women have a different idea about league altogether. What makes you think this? And to clarify: You can instinctively tell what league you belong to when you've made yourself presentable. If you've got a bad haircut and terrible style, girls will still look at you because your face is attractive to them. But they won't date or hookup with you until you make yourself presentable. Girls w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 11:57 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).I disagree with that. I think the common denominator when it comes to pretty much every dysfunctional couple or frustrated dater is that they don't try to break down or analyze their problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 11:49 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).partially agree. but the concept of "leagues" is just a shit test really. too many times I've been rejected in favor of guys who were much uglier because they had better game I think it's a separate issue if you're talking ONS or actual dating. I'm mostly talking about dating here, not picking up women for sex. For a ONS being able to seduce the woman is the most critical thing once you're past a threshold of looks where she finds you attractive enough. (Although a 10/10 male can still snatch yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 11:47 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Yeah I'm probably 6-7 look wise myself.. Maybe 8 to a woman who sees me as her "type". I don't think the problem with incels is that they don't shower. But from the pictures I've seen of self-professed incels, they don't look presentable. I don't think a lot of them understand what "Get a haircut" means. It means that you must experiment a bit and find the haircut that is most flattering to your face. Then you have to get up every morning and apply hair products and recreate the same style over … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 10:00 AM |
| 5 | CMV: the blues here are redder than 90% of redditThis is my impression of reddit as well. A lot of "left"-leaning (I say "left" because they don't seem all that concerned with socioeconomic issues as compared to intersectional feminism or whatever) users seem to be moving to conquer certain subs, passively repeating whatever ideological rhetoric they've picked up and notoriously downvoting any comment that shows even the slightest deviation from their ideology. In some sense, a lot of people don't seem to be on reddit to discuss at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 09:28 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesWomen will tell men, in different ways, that their way is best so men figure that she must like being an expert at this stuff. She feels overwhelmed but won't say anything so she suffers in silence and resentment builds instead of doing the mature thing and talking about it. It's a recipe for disaster as both sides don't understand what respect sounds like in each other's language. I had a great example of this happen with a relative of mine. We had the responsibility of clearing out an apartmen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 09:18 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).But you could do with a dash of rp's "you are the prize". Which to me just means that you think you're a good catch. Also, people, including women, are fickle. You can do everything 'right' and still not be able to keep dating the woman you want. She might be already burning a flame for someone else and there's nothing you can do about it. Yup, which is why I say patience and not committing too early is key. I don't know how one would act like "The prize", but perhaps by not being too available … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 09:00 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).unless you of course choose to actually participate in online dating (I only recommend this as a last resort for people without singles-rich social circles). Why? Online dating is the most common form of dating. Everyone I know who are single use it as their primary dating tool now. We can write fiction all day about whether in-person interactions or "offline waiting" generates more attraction. I'm betting on in-person interactions. Let me know if you want to write theories fiction with me on th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 08:52 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).I agree with respecting yourself and having some boundaries (a woman who didn't do BJs wouldn't be very interesting to me, unless I could manage to change her mind of course.). I mean , usually you know if there are deal-breakers with a woman pretty early on. But unless there are clear deal-breakers, I'd say give most women you're attracted to and have chemistry with a chance. The perfect woman doesn't exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 08:28 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesI’m not saying communication isn’t also important. Or that people shouldn’t also communicate when they feel they’re pulling too much of the load. I’m simply saying that you should already be actively trying to be pulling the load without waiting to be asked. Oh I agree with that. But again, my point is: She(comic lady) didn't choose a man who does that. And she's expecting him to think like a woman (carrying a mental load). I again also take issue with the notion that women are the only ones tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 08:23 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).One of the things about my husband that drew me in the beginning was his happy attitude. 4 months later I realized that he was on a "relationship high" and he is actually a really negative person. I already developed attachment toward him by that point to break up. I'm happy with my decision in my life partner but if he acted like the way he does now in the beginning, he would not have gotten a second date. Right? And for other guys, like me - it can be the other way around. I realized I was com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 10:48 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Maybe i’m just over estimating my looks. I’m probably a sub5 who just got lucky a few times. Nah, as I said - I think you can trust your gut on what it tells you about your league/match. Unless you're hermit who watches porn all day, you've registered interest from women and girls in some way since you were a child. You've probably dated women and instinctively known you can do better and had them basically put up with anything you did. Thing is, some women will look at you because they think yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 10:17 PM |
| 0 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).I'm 180cm and white so I really haven't been through that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 10:12 PM |
| 4 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).I imagine a lot of women find your height to be a dealbreaker. That's gotta be tought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 10:04 PM |
| 3 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Right? I feel like a lot of the dating advice you can see everywhere basically accomplishes one of those things indirectly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 09:59 PM |
| 6 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).If you are between 6-8/10 you will have to put an insane amount of effort just to get women who are just barely attractive, and you will likely have to settle for women you have no attraction to just to take what you can get. Your looksmatch won’t be interested unless you pay for everything. How does a 6-8/10 man and woman look to you? If you are 5/10 or below you are fucked, unless you are a millionaire and willing to spend ridiculous amounts of money to “deserve” her. If you're a legit 5/10 (a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: I'm a man approaching 30. Discuss what you think of my condensed wisdom on attraction and dating(as a guy).Nah, more like I'm saying don't make any sort of commitment to a girl (unless discussed and agreed upon) unless you've been consistently dating her for at least a couple of months. Not dating too frequently to begin with means that if you have sex with some of the women you're dating you're not really involved enough for it to be a major issue. But yeah she might be having sex with another guy she's not committed to. That's just life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 09:53 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesSure. I mean, as long as you don't completely change the subject when you interrupt (by telling a story about yourself, "That reminds me!"), very few people will really mind if you interrupt in a way that contributes to the conversation. Usually if everyone are quiet and one person is talking it's either a super charismatic person (5% or something of the time IME), or someone who is basically holding a monologue and everyone are just waiting for him/her to finish so they can change the subject(9… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 08:44 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesNo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 07:25 PM |
| 4 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesWhen I saw this comic I wondered why she waited for things to fall apart, why she never planned ahead or asked hubby to keep an eye on the kids instead of suffering in silence until things fell apart. Is her pride worth more than a talk with her partner? Why is he expected to understand her view but she's not willing to get his? Is it worth getting angry after when a little planning and communication would have made things easier? How could she fail so badly at doing the basics at being a functi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 06:53 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differences...it's in the title of the post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesFeeling ownership over various tasks is a huge part of this -- the person who has the higher standards tends to take ownership, so the other person backs off so as not to encroach on their territory. Then the person who has taken ownership gets resentful, but it's not like they were asked to take ownership to begin with. Exactly. And what's going on in the comic is that the women who are complaining expect the men to intuitively understand their high standards, and to understand when they requir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesMy point is that you’re laying too much of the blame on women. I don't really think this is a cause of "Team women" vs "Team men". I think all men should strive to see their partner, help them and create a home where they share responsibilities and chores equally. However, if you see yourself in this comic, you did not choose a man who does this. And if you believe the theory of "Mind load", or "mind burden" (forgot which it was), you are attributing a personal problem to a societal one, and you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 06:08 PM |
| -1 | Do you believe in 'the spark' or is that an excuse women made up to drop unattractive men?It can be an excuse to avoid having to tell the guy what about him she doesn't see a future in. It can also simply mean "I gave him a chance, I don't feel attracted". Either way, rejecting someone for whatever reason is OK. I believe a spark(falling in love, infatuation, whatever you call it) is necessary yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 05:57 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesNagging is stereotypically when someone is conveying some task that needs to be done in a frustrating manner. Like “how many times have I asked you to take the trash out??” My point is, you’re acting like women don’t communicate this shit at all. I disagree. Again - I'm not saying they don't communicate shit at all. I'm saying if they recognize themselves in the comic, they probably communicate in a way that presumes that the man already understands what they're thinking, instead of having an op… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 05:54 PM |
| 4 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesWomen aren’t the only people capable of being organized, good heavens, you make it sound like women are asking too much of men just by asking them to keep the fuck up with their own lives. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying they're wrong in assuming that men should automatically think about the same things the women do with no spoken agreement on the distribution of labor whatsoever. Let's say the man has a tolerance for mess that allows him to accept 5 items lying on a table at any give… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesNagging would not be some major complaint of men if women, generally, were not at least trying to communicate about shit like this. It’s not just on women here. Right - I mean, some men are just manchildren who call every message they get "Nagging". And y'know, dump them, that's the only way they'll learn. But let's assume you have some vetting ability that you applied when you chose your man. Do you think that he's a manchild? Do you think that when he perceives what you say as nagging, an outs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 04:51 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesNagging would not be some major complaint of men if women, generally, were not at least trying to communicate about shit like this. It’s not just on women here. Right - I mean, some men are just manchildren who call every message they get "Nagging". And y'know, dump them, that's the only way they'll learn. But let's assume you have some vetting ability that you applied when you chose your man. Do you think that he's a manchild? Do you think that when he perceives what you say as nagging, an outs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 04:50 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesIsn't it the same with slut shaming? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 04:43 PM |
| 4 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesTo adult chores that need to be done daily or weekly and who does them? I think the problem with just "Paying attention" to this stuff is that everyone thinks they do more than their share. Creating clear systems of accountability might sound unnecessary and stupid, but boy does it end any such sort of disagreement easily. To whether your partner is giving you hints perhaps they’d like you to pick up some slack? I'd counter and say that the person giving out hints should also pay attention to ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 04:32 PM |
| 3 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesOk so here's the thing, you're right that good communication can solve some of this. Although a lot of the time it's obvious. I read that comic a while ago and the one part that stuck out to me was her asking for him to get a clean bottle out for her then she wakes up and realizes he's just taken it out of the dishwasher and left the clean dishes in there. Stuff like that is obvious. I see where you're coming from - but this is actually feeding into the paradigm of "Woman give orders, man follow… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 04:27 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesIf anything, it's an effective way to avoid personal accountability while at the same time empowering yourself to sanction others on unclear terms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 04:05 PM |
| 4 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesI think if she has an issue, it would behoove her to speak up. But suggesting that men are incapable of recognizing when a major project would be easier for their partners unless you sit us down and explain it to us in small, patient words is setting a hellishly low bar. But we're not discussing "Major projects". We're discussing small, everyday tasks. And we're discussing a setting where the woman has the impression that her husband isn't willing to partake in some "mental load" consisting of m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 01:24 PM |
| 3 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesOnce I read that men and women simply perceive the world differently: while men have a more focused vision, women have a more "peripheral" vision. Which means that men happen to zone in on a particular goal and are able to blind out the rest while women have a much harder time doing so. This aligns very well with me personally. I see it as both a strength and a weakness - and as one of the reasons why men and women complement each other both in the workplace and in relationships. The other probl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesWouldn't surprise me. A man like that needs to be effective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 12:11 PM |
| 8 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesThere are many aspects of a relationship that require communication. But none of your examples fit this. What sort of person doesn't know that cooking dinner takes a lot of work, and is easier with two people chipping in? When my partner is cooking dinner, and I have time and am around, I'm right in there with them offering to help proactively, because I WANT to help. But that's not what's happening in the comic. The woman cooking the meal tells her guest to sit down with her husband. He's enter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 11:36 AM |
| 11 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesWhen you have a LTR/marriage, you are essentially becoming a team. You are agreeing to be supportive and helpful of one another's desires, so that both of your lives become easier. Even if you're a team, you can't expect someone to read your mind and understand your inner desires and needs. Especially if it's very apparent that they don't intuitively get it. It's your responsibility to communicate what you want. Very often, women DON'T need to say something. They're just trying really hard to do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 11:12 AM |
| 8 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesshe's unwilling to make a plan, I'm supposed to know when she's going to think it's dirty and when she's going to have the energy spike to do it, so I do it before her, at her rhythm, in a complete guess game. This is so true from my experience from living with (some) women as roommates. We were having a discussion about removing things from the dishwasher, and I suggested that we just took turns, bought a whiteboard and marked an "X" next to our name each time we emptied the dishwasher. This ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: Many typical problems women complain about are actually representations of the inability to understand gender differencesSorry - what exactly are you asking me to do here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 10:37 AM |
| 1 | Do you believe in the saying: "Nice guys finish last" when it comes to dating?Yes. Both nice guys and nice girls "finish last". However counter intuitive it might sound - I think the main issue with nice guys/girls is that they lack empathy and active listening skills. They care a lot about other people, but they don't understand them. For instance, a typical "Nice guy" might not understand that a woman enjoys being called out or teased by men (as most people with confidence do). Similarly, he fails to see that the same woman may be hurt or insulted by a man giving his ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 07:27 AM |
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