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| 4 | Are Romance and Marriage Compatible?Kids consume enormous amounts of time and energy from their parents. Kids cost tremendous amounts of money. Having kids changes absolutely everything in a marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 09:04 PM |
| 3 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?BP: Most people are not shitty; some people are shitty. RP: All people are shitty; but they can learn how to not be shitty. Some people learn better than others how not to be shitty. All people act shitty from time to time; some more than others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 08:12 PM |
| 3 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?Women love criminals and douchebags because they provide the confident, dominant, IDGAF personality women crave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 08:08 PM |
| 1 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?Everyone has it in them to act selfishly could possibly equal everyone has it in them to leave a new husband for a criminal drug addicted ex. That's all a man really needs to know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 08:04 PM |
| 4 | Married to Lucifer's DaughterThis right here. would you rather --have a felony charge (which you'll plead down to a misdemeanor with no jail time), or --be dead from stab wounds, leaving your children orphaned from a dead father and an imprisoned or committed mother? | /r/MarriedRedPill | 31/08/16 06:55 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: What does the normal day/week look like for an attractive woman?For reasons unknown to me, citrus is now a moderator. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: What does the normal day/week look like for an attractive woman?haha more gold | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Married to Lucifer's DaughterDocument the bad stuff. You are not going to hear her say shit like what meals she is preparing, because you are taking the kids and moving out TODAY or you are moving her out TODAY. Why in the actual fuck you are still living in the same house (and allowing your children to live in the same house) with a woman who pushed scissors into your chest and told you she dreams every day of killing you is beyond me. Talk and conduct like that is grounds for divorce, immediate separation, and referral to… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 31/08/16 06:37 PM |
| 5 | Q4RP: What does the normal day/week look like for an attractive woman?Fucking gold Except you left out --go to gym, walk on elliptical/do spin class/Zumba for 30 min. in yogas and sports bra, see hot guys ogling me, maybe give out my number to one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 06:26 PM |
| 2 | Married to Lucifer's DaughterHere is another thing. Starting today, you will document every thing she says. You will document every interaction you have with her and you will keep said documentation in a safe place. You will write down and memorialize everything she says and does in your presence. You will have a video cam ready. If she starts going batshit, you will turn on the cam and you will record her. What she says, what she does. You will then give said documentation and video to your lawyer, who will help you decide… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 31/08/16 06:01 PM |
| 11 | Married to Lucifer's Daughtershit. You or your kid might be DEAD in a month. You need to go NOW. As in TODAY. Not tomorrow, not next week, not next month. NOW. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 31/08/16 05:51 PM |
| 42 | Married to Lucifer's Daughtershe straddled me on the couch, pushing scissors into my chest and telling me she dreams of killing me every day. --call a lawyer. --get an emergency order of protection for you and your children. --get her moved out of the house or you move out and take the kids with you. --document this and all other incidents in the order of protection or some other document filed with a court. Spread it all out in an official court record. --ask for an order of separation including an order of temporary spous… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 31/08/16 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Right. Like in the example in BiggerD's post. Could be 5 minutes from now. Could be an hour. Could be tomorrow or next week. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 05:02 PM |
| 2 | Here's why equality is the answerI'd suggest you refine your post to make it clearer. When you say men should have "equal reproductive and legal rights", you're advocating for what? --men able to force women to have abortions? --men able to force women to carry babies to term and give birth? --men unilaterally able to skip out on parental rights by "financial abortion", i.e., giving up parental rights? --men being able to have full child custody? or share residential custody?? What does this mean? And why is this going to make … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 04:18 PM |
| 1 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?I don't know about this.... women are quite calculating about their relationships, much more so than men are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 04:13 PM |
| 2 | Why do men belittle ‘stereotypically female’ hobbies and traits while still saying they want ‘traditionally feminine’ women?lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 03:46 PM |
| 1 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?Yeah, she can end the marriage at her option; but she is still going to weigh upsides and downsides; and if it's to her advantage to stay with a cheat, she will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Laying on a couch with a man you don't want to fuck is not "enjoying someone's company". It sends a message that you might want to fuck eventually. If you do not want to fuck, then you need to avoid sending messages that you might eventually want to fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 03:23 PM |
| 5 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?No wife is going to like her husband cheating. She will tolerate it though if she decides the benefits of staying married to a cheating husband outweigh the downsides of divorcing him. History is rife with women who stayed with philandering men because -- he was very sexually attractive --he was the best she could do and both H and W knew it --he was high status and she wants to retain his status by remaining married to him --he was rich and she wants to retain access to the money by staying mar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 03:19 PM |
| 0 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?Men care about wives and marriage MORE than their women do. Men care about their marriages MORE than their wives do. it's just that men want strange pussy. A man can cheat for some strange and still love his wife, still care about his wife and never have any intention whatsoever to leave his wife or divorce her. And if he is alpha enough, his wife might just tacitly tolerate it so long as he is discreet and the wife retains the title of wife and access to the resources and status that appertain … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 03:03 PM |
| 0 | Why do men belittle ‘stereotypically female’ hobbies and traits while still saying they want ‘traditionally feminine’ women?No, what people often have a problem with is 1) swapping tips about being attractive to women that is not politically correct and 2) how it’s presented. All this training that TRP gives men on how to be men and on masculinity used to take place with fathers, uncles, granddads, older brothers and male peers. It used to take place completely away from women's eyes and ears, and totally in private. Now that women have kicked all those men out of their sons' lives and insisted that women should have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 02:59 PM |
| 6 | Why do men belittle ‘stereotypically female’ hobbies and traits while still saying they want ‘traditionally feminine’ women?I get the base RP tenants tenets | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 02:54 PM |
| 3 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?All people are shitty. The people who cheat are those who choose their shit; choose to embrace that aspect of their shit nature. Most people (claim they) do not cheat and (claim they) do not embrace that aspect of their shit nature. But give them the opportunity, right person, right time, right circumstances, low risk of detection, and many many more people would cheat. Most men don't cheat because they don't have the opportunity to do so. Most men don't cheat because they cant cheat; because th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 02:50 PM |
| 5 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?BP seems to believe in a different base nature of human beings. BP seems to believe most people are not shitty. Most people are basically good at their core. Most people just do not do shitty things. I used to believe that. I no longer do. Every human being who has ever lived is shit, and they have to learn how to not be shit. Some are more successful at this process than others. People are basically bad, corrupt, and broken at their cores. Everyone does shitty things. Every single human being w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 02:00 PM |
| 4 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?the answers from Blues have been pretty uniform. "Well, the woman cheated because she's a shitty person. Some people are shitty. This person is one of the (relatively few) shitty ones. But most people aren't shitty." Here's the thing, though. ALL people are shitty; and ALL people are capable of doing shitty things. RP can predict with surprising accuracy what happens in relationships like this, based on the kinds of people in those relationships. Another thing is that RP could have examined this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 01:34 PM |
| 3 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?Sure. Most CLAIM not to have cheated. Just like most men CLAIM not to have cheated. On self reported surveys (which is another story). Women have a base nature - hypergamy, always looking for the bigger better deal, needing to be with the best man she can get at any given time, repulsed by male fear, weakness, anger, despair, depression; and attracted to confidence, dominance, capability and ability to command/control resources. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 01:27 PM |
| 3 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?Yeah. Here's something on that. "You can't generalize about anything. You RPers are suffering from confirmation bias and sampling bias. You can't really know anything about people because they are so infinitely complex and variable. Characteristics, or constellations of characteristics, have no predictive value whatsoever. You have to treat everyone as an individual. We are all special and different. Generalizations are never, ever valid." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 01:21 PM |
| 2 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?women are individual people *rolls eyes Yes, they are, but behavior among women (and men) follows trends because women have a nature; just as men have a nature. If we believed you, then the fields of economics, psychology, medicine, etc. have no validity. We can't treat humans as having "conditions" because they're all individuals. We can't say that someone who has a stuffy nose, coughing and sneezing has a cold just because a million other people with the same symptoms had colds -- they're all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 01:16 PM |
| 3 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?I've been looking for "evidence to the contrary" and haven't found any. Seriously -- I would really love it if Red Pill didn't answer these questions. I would really like it if you BPers were correct about things and Red Pill wasn't, because that would be the "kinder, gentler" world BPers want and claim exists. But I've been in your world, was raised and steeped in it. I looked for evidence to support your views and found none. I tried doing it your way. I tried living your way. It didn't work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 01:12 PM |
| 2 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?It isn't just "some people". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 01:10 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Straw man | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 01:14 AM |
| 2 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?You can go to dinner with men you don't want to fuck but due respect, it's dishonest. The kind thing to do would be to end the date when you decide sex isn't happening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Relevance? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 12:44 AM |
| 2 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?You're looking for sex only. No. I am looking for clear, unambiguous, unmistakable signs and signals of her sexual attraction for me. I want assurances that my time, attention and resources aren't being wasted. If I am not getting those signs, signals and assurances, time to bail. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?I agree that women don't have to explain why they don't want sex and why they are rejecting a particular man at a particular time. But I don't then have to wait around to figure it out; nor do I have to continue trying when I'm getting no signs or signals of attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 09:26 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Frankly, I can get those things from male friends. I want her most valuable asset. I want sexual access. I want access to her body. If I have to wait, I'm not getting that. I might never get that. She wants my most valuable asset: My time, attention, and access to my resources. If I'm taking her on dates or doing "Netflix and chill", then she's getting those things. She's getting what she most values. But meanwhile, I'm not getting what I most value. So I ask again: What am I getting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?what's awful about it? Why should I waste my time and take a flyer on the off chance that MAYBE she MIGHT be attracted to me LATER? She gets everything she wants (attention, validation, me spending time and maybe some money on her). What am I getting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Not wanting sex does not equal a lack of attraction. Some women want to wait for a while until they know someone well enough Then women need to say that. Some women are on their period and don't want to have sex. Some women aren't in the mood for some other reason. Further, attraction often grows over time. Then they need to say that. They need to state clearly they are attracted but want to wait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 09:15 PM |
| 1 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingIt sends a mixed message because it says "my words say 'no sex' but my staying here laying on the couch with you says 'stay here and maybe try again later, or try harder, or try another angle.'" Women communicate covertly. Instead of saying "let's have sex", they give you indicators of interest. They expect pursuit, for men to try to have sex, to "sell" a woman on sex. That's why women should say "no" AND get up and leave. A woman who doesn't want to fuck a guy does not lay on a sofa with him. P… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 09:14 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?If a woman doesn't want sex, she is not attracted to me. If she is not attracted to me at first, that's not going to change all that much down the road. It's not going to be all that different tomorrow or next week or next month. If attraction isn't there from the get go, it's not going to be there tomorrow or next week or next month. If she is not attracted to me sexually, I need to know that NOW, not later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?If a woman doesn't want sex with me, she's not attracted to me. if she's not attracted to me, there's not much I can do to make her attracted to me. if she's not attracted to me in the first few hours of getting to know me, that's not going to change down the road. So if she's not attracted to me and doesn't want to fuck, I need to know that NOW, not later. Plus -- it's likely she has fucked at least one or two men before after knowing them a few hours, because she was attracted to them. So why … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 09:03 PM |
| 2 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?you want OTHER men to be asexual. Not you. Personal morals and ethical choices have nothing to do with human nature. They are behavioral controls used as a check on human nature; they don't "change" it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 08:58 PM |
| 1 | A RPer told me that female mating choice hasnt had much of a role in our evolution - particularly involving men generally being more successful than women - because females were all being raped by alpha males. But doesnt RP say that women are all attracted to alphas? So why did alphas need to rape?I do get to decide it's irrelevant... because it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 08:51 PM |
| 2 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?You need to leave to make it clear that fucking is not going to happen. My husband may want to fuck me one night when we're laying naked in bed together (how we sleep), but I just want to pass out. irrelevant. We are not talking about married couples. We're talking about aborted hookups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 08:51 PM |
| 0 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?No, not at all, but im not going to explain it since it's not germane to the topic, which is women's responsibility to protect themselves against unwanted sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 08:49 PM |
| 2 | A RPer told me that female mating choice hasnt had much of a role in our evolution - particularly involving men generally being more successful than women - because females were all being raped by alpha males. But doesnt RP say that women are all attracted to alphas? So why did alphas need to rape?You don't get to decide that. Sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 08:46 PM |
| 2 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Nope, you are. Men in America act differently because of law and legal requirements, not because their natures are different. What you want is for men to change at their most basic nature -- you want them to not want sex; to be feminized; to not pursue women. That's not natural and it won't work. Besides, if men in America act differently from men in ISIS, then they are "better". So there's no problem. So why try to change human nature when it can't be done anyway? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 08:43 PM |
| 3 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?It's about HUMANS. It's HUMAN NATURE. You're not talking about "changing society". At bottom you want men to change their basic nature, which is not possible. So in that respect males in America are the same as males in ISIS -- males want to fuck. Females in America are the same as females in ISIS -- hypergamous, looking for the bigger better deal, and seeking to fuck the best men for validation, seed, and resources. This isn't difficult to understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 08:29 PM |
| 3 | A RPer told me that female mating choice hasnt had much of a role in our evolution - particularly involving men generally being more successful than women - because females were all being raped by alpha males. But doesnt RP say that women are all attracted to alphas? So why did alphas need to rape?It isn't relevant. all you're doing is namecalling and it has nothing to do with the actual discussion at hand. It's premised on assumptions on your part. But you have fun with that, since insults and ad hominems seem to be your forte. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 08:28 PM |
| 2 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Humans in America = Humans in USSR Humans are humans everywhere and have the same basic nature. This is a pretty basic concept. Read a bit more carefully next time, K? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 08:26 PM |
| 3 | A RPer told me that female mating choice hasnt had much of a role in our evolution - particularly involving men generally being more successful than women - because females were all being raped by alpha males. But doesnt RP say that women are all attracted to alphas? So why did alphas need to rape?Irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 08:21 PM |
| 3 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?You're telling women they should "take risks"? They should hang out with guys they don't really want to fuck; or lay on couches with men they dont' want to fuck? You're telling women to risk sexual contact with men when that might not turn out very well? Do your Blue stormtrooper friends know this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 08:20 PM |
| 2 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?And once the decision has been made that she doesn't want to fuck, it's on her to end it as soon as possible. And once he knows she doesn't want to fuck, and for some reason he's at her place, he should stop wasting his time and leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 08:14 PM |
| 3 | A RPer told me that female mating choice hasnt had much of a role in our evolution - particularly involving men generally being more successful than women - because females were all being raped by alpha males. But doesnt RP say that women are all attracted to alphas? So why did alphas need to rape?No, he's saying it's an old trope insult that doesn't mean anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 08:12 PM |
| 4 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?"Changing society" doesn't work when you're up against human nature. Ask the old hardline Soviets how that worked out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 08:08 PM |
| 3 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?But why do they need to do anything? Because it's a rough and harsh and unpredictable world, and if they don't protect themselves no one else will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 08:07 PM |
| 5 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Says human nature. You aren't going to change human nature. "they must accept the world as it is" means exactly what the words mean, using their common, ordinary and every day understood meanings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Didn't say women are cum dumpsters. That's your assumption. Why should I spend time letting women use me, getting what they want from me; while I get nothing I want from them? Makes no sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:59 PM |
| 0 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?No. if the woman says no, she needs to say "get out". Of course if the guy has any sense he'll leave immediately after getting turned down, because staying is a waste of time. A man should not waste time with women he's not fucking or doesn't want to fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?why shouldn't she try her luck to see if he's a normal friendly guy that accepts her boundaries? Why should he stay and accept boundaries? Why can't he expect her to accept his, one of which is "if I'm not getting sex, then you're not getting my time or attention". Don't you believe that men and women can be friends and just hang out and have fun? Not at this point in my life. Moreover, if a man is romantically interested in a woman and he's just been shot down, they're not going to be friends. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Nope. If you have decided you don't want sex, and your no means no, then it's on you to enforce that no. that means if it's 2 am and he's at your house and sex ain't happening, you need to politely ask him to leave. And frankly, any man worth his salt will leave right after a rejection like that because if he isn't getting sex he's wasting his time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:46 PM |
| 3 | A RPer told me that female mating choice hasnt had much of a role in our evolution - particularly involving men generally being more successful than women - because females were all being raped by alpha males. But doesnt RP say that women are all attracted to alphas? So why did alphas need to rape?Um yeah; but we are crumbling from within. We are being destroyed by Mexico and massive influxes of illegals. We have no national culture anymore. We don't have the morale to fight a full on full scale conventional boots on the ground war. And we don't have the money or the knowhow either. Two generations of feminism have utterly decimated American masculinity. This country is not the same one that won WWII, and faced with an enemy of that scale and determination, we would not be able to defeat … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:43 PM |
| 3 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Apples and oranges. Nerds aren't complaining about bullies beating them up. Nerds complain only that they aren't accepted for who they are and that they can't get sex. And no one gives a shit about nerds getting beaten up by bullies or that nerds are socially ostracized and incel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Because saying "no" and then inviting him to stay there sends the message of "it's no for right now; but if you stay and try harder, maybe you can change my mind". It lets dumb guys, weird guys, criminals and rapists think that sex might happen. It invites them to keep trying. Again: The issue is women doing things to protect themselves against sexual assault. It takes more than just "no", particularly when you have invited a man who is obviously sexually interested in you, back to your place. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?No. She should NOT just say she's not going to have sex with him. She should say she's not going to have sex with him AND tell him to leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:27 PM |
| 2 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?yes it's happened to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Jesus H. Christ. That is NOT what's being argued. What is being said is that if she invites a man in after a date, and she reconsiders, she needs to make that crystal clear: "NO" and "we are done here" and "please leave now" while standing by her open door. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:23 PM |
| 3 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?She CANNOT always depend on a man to not attack her. She has to do it for herself. That's what women demanded when they sought full participation in society, and they have it. So now they have to do things to protect themselves against stupid guys, weird guys, drunk guys, criminals and rapists. Women asked for this; they have it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?If you're just hanging out then you're a friend/orbiter; and yeah, she's not inviting you for sex. But That's not what's being discussed here. What's being discussed here is overt or strongly covert sexual and romantic interest. I mean, come on. We all know what that looks like. We all know it when we see it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:18 PM |
| 4 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Because the bottom line is nobody gives a shit about men getting beaten, robbed, mugged, maimed, injured and killed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?I told you... If she is going to turn me down, she needs to do that with a "NO" and then "we're done for tonight" in which case she needs to leave if we're in public or at my place; or she needs to say to me "Please leave now" and then stand by her open door. In my experience, every woman who's decided "no" with me has been able to do that. Women are big girls, fully capable of making their own decisions. If they say "no" they can back it up with action, including saying "we're done" and "please… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Apples and oranges. In your scenario, they're just friends. No problem. (If a guy wants to waste his time that way, who am I to say he can't?) I'm talking about where there has been romantic interest at least hinted at or expressed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:14 PM |
| 0 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Um, we're talking here about men interested in women sexually, and women interested in men sexually. Obvsly there are times where it's nonsexual.... but that's not what is under discussion here... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:12 PM |
| 2 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?No one said inviting someone back to your house is illegal. Totally irrelevant. But if a woman invites a man back to her place, he is going to construe that as an invitation to pursue sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:11 PM |
| 4 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Yes. It's on you for not backing up your "no" with action. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Going on a date is sending a signal that you're considering sex with the guy. If you change your mind, it is on you to make that clear AND END THE DATE. Being alone with a guy is sending a very strong signal that youre at least strongly considering sex. If I'm the guy she's alone with, I am going to take that as a signal she is open to sex and I am going to go for it. If she is going to turn me down, she needs to do that with a "NO" and then "we're done for tonight" in which case she needs to le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:06 PM |
| 3 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Read more carefully and try again. Let me help you. women have a responsibility to protect themselves against sexual assault beyond simply saying "no". Part of that responsibility includes taking action consistent with that NO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:04 PM |
| 2 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Blues are taking those positions. They are saying women should not have to do anything other than "say no" and they have no responsibility for any ills that might befall them. They're saying women are not smart; and don't have to be. They're saying women need men to protect them from sex they don't want (by refusing to pursue those women for sex). Try again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 07:01 PM |
| 6 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Folks like Skinny want a gleaming Utopia where there are no criminals or rapists. He wants a world where women flock to the top 20% of men and fuck them; and the remaining 80% of men go away and leave women alone. He wants a world where men "Know their Place" (I.e. don't try to date women). That world doesn't exist -- never has, never will. So women have to guard against it. Sorry, women, but that's just how it is. That's your cross to bear. Like men's cross to bear is that we have to work for e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 06:56 PM |
| 3 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?This is about whether women have a responsibility to protect themselves against sexual assault beyond simply saying "no". Part of that responsibility includes taking action consistent with that NO. You say "NO" and then you LEAVE. You say "NO" and then you kick the guy out of your place. You say "NO" and then you stop laying on the couch next to the guy who has expressly said he wants to fuck you. You say "NO" and you end the date. It is NOT "NO" and then put the guy's cock in your mouth. It is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 06:51 PM |
| 3 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?This. I can tell you that if a woman invites you to her place, alone, she is sending an unmistakable signal that she is at least strongly considering sex. Women need to understand that, whether a woman intends it or not, that's the message she sends a man when she agrees to be alone with him at her place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 06:48 PM |
| 4 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Because the world is a rough, harsh place, the world is not fair, and it's imperfect, and not every man is going to respect that very well -- particularly if you don't know him very well and you're both half drunk. LIFE IS NOT FAIR. DEAL WITH IT. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 06:41 PM |
| 0 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?There's a difference between "blame the victim" and "did the victim do or say anything to take precautions against it"? I'm arguing the latter. Because, wow, it's a great idea to take precautions against dumbfuck guys who can't take no for an answer. Precautions like "don't go places with men you don't know very well" and "Don't get shitfaced with men you dont' know very well" and "don't go on dates with men you might not be interested in fucking". You know. Common sense stuff like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?I'm not taking the position that a man has a right to harm someone else. You need to stop putting words in my mouth and look at the position I am actually advocating. The position I am advocating is that women need to take action consistent with their "no's" when they say "no" to sex. If women are weak or vulnerable and freeze up then they should not be --drinking in public --getting drunk in public --getting drunk with drunk men --after drinking, laying on couches with men who have expressly pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 06:29 PM |
| 3 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Your entire comment is an enormous strawman. So me being drunk with a guy or being alone with a guy at a new place means that I want to have sex with him and have no right to say no? No one is arguing you have no right to say no. No one is saying you being somewhere means you want to fuck. Being drunk with a guy YOU DON'T KNOW VERY WELL increases the chances of miscommunications or misunderstandings. Being alone with a guy out in public on a date sends the message you MIGHT want sex with him. NO… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 06:16 PM |
| 3 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Yes, it's possible you could still get raped. But with all those precautions, you're reducing the risk enormously. some asshole will still blame me for it. Which is a strawman; because we're not talking here about women who take precautions and are still victims of violent rape. No one here is arguing that women who take precautions and still get raped are to blame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 06:07 PM |
| 0 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Someone being stupid doesn't give you the right to harm them. Strawman. No one is taking that position here. I don't agree with any view point that says men are so stupid they don't know when they haven't heard a 'yes.' Strawman. That's not being argued here either. Even if it was - a verbal, explicit "yes" isn't required for consent to sex (at least not yet) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 05:57 PM |
| -1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?No, actually it's straight out of pretty much every dating manual for women ever issued. Don't go places with men you don't want to fuck. Don't give men ideas that you might want to fuck them when you don't want to fuck them. Odd, I know, but hey -- it gets women with men they want to fuck and gets them away from men they don't want to fuck. Who'da thunk it -- it turns out that not being around men you don't want to fuck actually causes those men to not fuck you! IT WORKS!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 05:55 PM |
| 7 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Society should change. It won't. Poor decisionmaking leads to poor results. Women bear their share of the blame for poor decisionmaking. Sorry you don't like that, but that's the real world. The problem is that women want to live their own lives instead, which I know drives you crazy. No, what drives me crazy is when people don't accept the world as it is. Women can live whatever lives they want; they must accept the world as it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 05:44 PM |
| 4 | Does the "rape culture" debate give TRP validity that women are essentially children who need their hands held and who irresponsibly put themselves into compromising situations?Yup. Because that man is not a man; but is instead a boy. And boys do not do, and should not do, those things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 05:41 PM |
| 4 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Women can do what they want. Laying down next to a guy on a sofa DOES NOT MEAN you have free reign to pillage my body. In an ideal world, yes. In the real world, where you get shitfaced with shitfaced men, you take the risk that some dumbfuck will think he has that right. And if you're laying next to a guy on a sofa WHO HAS SAID EXPRESSLY THAT HE WANTS TO FUCK YOU and you don't want to fuck; then maybe, juuuuust maybe, it'd be a good idea to NOT STAY THERE. She leaves her own place? Or is the ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 05:39 PM |
| 6 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?So you've never talked to a victim of abuse. Great that we finally can acknowledge that, because even children that have been fucked by their family members will blame themselves. THe fuck are you talking about? This isn't about fathers raping their daughters; this is about fully functioning women who make dumbass decisions or fail to plan appropriately and end up in situations, shitfaced with shitfaced men they don't know very well. The girl in the scenario that started all this was laying on a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 05:37 PM |
| 3 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?When a woman is out and about at a party getting shitfaced with shitfaced people she doesn't know very well, and ends up laying on a couch with a guy she doesn't want to fuck, and once she decides she doesn't want to fuck she REMAINS THERE, then yes, there's some blame on the woman for REMAINING THERE after saying she doesn't want to fuck. Is there blame on him? Yes, if he raped her. Is there blame on her? Yes, for staying there in a situation where she's LAYING ON A COUCH HALF DRUNK NEXT TO A H… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 05:31 PM |
| 2 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?No, it's not. If a woman doesn't want to fuck a guy, she should not be laying on a sofa next to him. Period. Full stop. If a woman doesn't want to fuck a guy, she LEAVES and has nothing to do with the guy. Anyone who believes otherwise is saying women don't need to do anything to protect themselves and is saying women are stupid immature kids who need men to protect them. I don't believe that women are stupid or immature. You apparently do, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 05:27 PM |
| 5 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?You seem fine with the fact that we do not live in civilized society. I accept society for what it is; I accept the reality of the situation. then blame the woman for the fact that she was physically overpowered and then sexually violated against her will. No; that's not what's being said here. What's being said here is blame the woman for her poor decisionmaking and her failure to take steps to mitigate the risks. women are weaker than men. True. So she should do things to mitigate the risks, l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?men should learn that forcing sex is a crime. Men know that already. Women should learn to be careful and learn to protect themselves which will reduce the risk by leaps and bounds. --don't be alone with men you don't know --don't lay on couches with men you don't want to fuck --don't be alone with men you don't want to fuck --don't get shitfaced with shitfaced men you don't know very well --be prepared to back up your "no" with action -- evasion, physical response, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 05:13 PM |
| 4 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?you need to do more than say "no". You need to leave; get away from him; go elsewhere. You might not be able to say "no" once; you might have to put some teeth into it. "No" is a clear signal when it's coupled with action. "No" is not a clear signal when it's coupled with things like laying on a sofa with a guy; or going back to his place; or agreeing to be isolated and alone with him in a place you've never been before; or getting shitfaced plowed drunk with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 05:09 PM |
| 5 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?I for one just find it absolutely fascinating that Blues are tacitly taking the positions --that women are children, --that women aren't smart enough or forward thinking enough to discern when things are getting out of hand --that women aren't smart enough to avoid sending mixed messages --that women need the protection of men when they are out and about, drinking and getting high and hanging around drunk men --that women have no responsibility whatsoever to do anything beyond saying no Blues ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 05:03 PM |
| 4 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?WOMEN DO THIS ALREADY. They do? Because Blues are saying women don't, and if they do, they shouldn't have to. This all stemmed from an article biggerdthanyou put up a couple days ago where a woman turned down a guy for sex. She was laying on the couch next to him. He waited, went for sex again, things "got heated" (her words) and they fucked. She's questioning whether she was raped. Blues were saying a woman doesn't have to do anything other than say "no". I'm saying a woman needs to be prepared… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:56 PM |
| 6 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?I disagree with this. I think that Blues are in fact saying a woman can be stupid and shortsighted and send mixed messages, and it doesn't matter -- if a guy misinterprets her mixed messages and takes advantage of her stupidity, that's ALL on him, NONE of it is on her AT ALL. That makes women into immature children who cannot do anything for themselves. That in effect says women can't be trusted to be out alone. I don't agree with any viewpoint that says a woman can be an idiot, act like an idio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:45 PM |
| 4 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?So.. your answer is a woman has no responsibility to do anything to protect herself. Then who is going to protect her? No one has to protect themselves from any violence. That's not the real world. Anyone who doesn't protect themselves against violence is probably going to end up beaten, robbed or dead. Women who do absolutely nothing to protect themselves (as you suggest) leave themselves to the potential for being beaten or sexually assaulted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:41 PM |
| 9 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?Yeah. I mean, should a woman be able to go places and not fend off sexual advances? Sure. Is that the real world? Not always. She needs to be prepared for the potential that some drunk dude or some sociopath could target her, and be ready to respond to it. I just read Blues as saying she is not responsible to do ANYTHING after she says "no". She can send mixed messages like lying on a sofa with a guy she's just rejected, and he's just supposed to accept that. Well that's not the real world, and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:30 PM |
| 4 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?this isn't about men protecting themselves. This is about what women should do to protect themselves - if they should do anything. The point is you will always have stupid men, criminal men, rapists, and out of control drunk men who do stupid shit. Do women need to protect themselves or at least be vigilant for that? I think they do, and I give women more credit than most. I think a woman who actually thinks for a minute can discern when things are getting out of hand, say "No" and then DO THING… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Does a Woman Have Any Responsibility at all to Protect Herself Against Sexual Assault?So a woman should not have to take any precautions at all -- she should depend on men to protect her. Not only is a man she's with responsible for himself -- he's also responsible for her too? Isn't that the dreaded patriarchy you blues all profess to hate? Isn't that an admission that women are either too stupid or too weak to take even the simplest of measures to protect themselves? Aren't you conceding that what TRP says about women is correct -- they are children? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:22 PM |
| 1 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingNo it's not. It's telling women to take responsibility for the potential criminal element of men and the potential element of stupid men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:15 PM |
| 1 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingI think it's very misogynist to say that women are too dumb to understand "I want to lie on the couch next to you" sends mixed messages to men. I think it's very misogynist to say that women are too dumb to do anything beyond a feeble, weak no and expect that to have effect when you're sending a clear message to the contrary by laying on a sofa next to the guy you just told no to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:15 PM |
| 0 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingYes, he could have done that. He wanted sex. He kept going for it. if she doesn't have to communicate overtly and send mixed messages, then I guess he can too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:13 PM |
| 3 | Does the "rape culture" debate give TRP validity that women are essentially children who need their hands held and who irresponsibly put themselves into compromising situations?No it would be a simple assault or battery, which would never be prosecuted in the real world. And you can scream about attempted rape all you want; you can cry about "it shouldn't be this way" all you want. The fact is that there is an element of men out there who do do this; and women who choose to get drunk with drunk men need to be prepared for the potential that might happen and she might need to take action. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:56 PM |
| 3 | Does the "rape culture" debate give TRP validity that women are essentially children who need their hands held and who irresponsibly put themselves into compromising situations?'Women need to be able to physically push a man away before he'll get that no means no.' Yes, perhaps one or two times in her life, she might have to do that. The point is she needs to be prepared to do that. Because the world is a harsh and unpredictable place. And if a woman chooses to go out to public places or people's homes and get shitfaced with shitfaced men, then it might be that a guy needs that to get the message. And that is partially a result of HER choices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:54 PM |
| 2 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingThat's beside the point though, because in the real world, women need to do things to protect themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:48 PM |
| 2 | Does the "rape culture" debate give TRP validity that women are essentially children who need their hands held and who irresponsibly put themselves into compromising situations?No one is talking about women committing crimes. We're talking about women saying "no" and then not taking action consistent with that "no". If you lay on a sofa with a guy and say "no" to sex, understand that the bodily message you're sending is not consistent with the words coming out of your mouth. If you really mean "no", then get your ass up, leave the area and don't talk to the guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:41 PM |
| 1 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingIf you're not going to take this seriously and you're going to misrepresent what I said, then I won't continue this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:40 PM |
| 3 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingYes, women have to say "no" and then act in a manner consistent with said 'no'. It's not "staying in the room" is "sending messages that you might want sex". But laying on a sofa with a guy is a message that you might want sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:39 PM |
| 0 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingIt's not a man's job to provide cuddling or conversation if he doesn't want to. He doesn't owe her cuddling or conversation; just as she doesn't owe him sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:37 PM |
| 1 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingdo you really believe it is in MEN'S PERSONAL INTEREST to have sex with a woman who is saying no? No. It is not. As I said, saying no means she is really putting the brakes on. Refer to the prior comment. I also didn't say anything about "pushing and pushing while she's saying no". I said that if her no really means no, then she'll take action consistent with that "no". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Does an individual's "N-Count" have a direct correlation with the success of a marriage?Observation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:02 PM |
| 1 | Does an individual's "N-Count" have a direct correlation with the success of a marriage?Observation. Women talking about their marriages to assertive, confident dominant, fit men; and to unassertive, underconfident, submissive, flabby out of shape men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 02:46 PM |
| 3 | CMV: A woman cannot be strong and independent while also being too afraid to say NO during sexany girl or woman who is not strong enough or independent enough to say NO to sex and make it stick should not be interacting with men alone; and should not be having sex. If you cannot say "NO" and then take action consistent with that "NO", then you should not be interacting with men and should not be having sex. And you should not be drinking or getting drunk in public, with drunk men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 02:36 PM |
| 0 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingHere's a hint; if she really doesn't want sex, she should not lay on the sofa with you; she should not return your kisses; she should leave and have nothing more to do with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 02:30 PM |
| 1 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingshe somehow brought it on herself, she flagrantly and perhaps purposefully exposed herself to danger. She was asking for it, maybe she wanted it at the time and now she just regrets it. Many times, she was stupid. Like, she was laying on a sofa at a party with a guy. Am I the only one who thinks that consenting to laying on a sofa with a man sends a message? It sends the message of "I am saying with my mouth I don't want to have sex; but I might want you to maybe try harder and maybe I'll change… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 02:29 PM |
| 2 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingWomen should be able to go out, and have a good time with their friends, without having to anticipate being raped/attacked/drugged. Yes, but they also have to be prepared to say NO in a forceful way and make it stick with a man. Because we will always have weird, clueless and criminal men with us. You will NEVER eliminate them from the population and you will NEVER eliminate the risk entirely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 02:25 PM |
| 1 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingYep | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 02:23 PM |
| 2 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingsaying no means really putting the brakes on, though. It doesn't mean laying on a sofa with a guy. If the guy keeps pushing you can't just keep saying no. You have to do more than that. You have to take actions consistent with the words you're saying. I don't see what's so difficult about this. When I was in college in the mid 80s, women who were in their late teens and early 20s had absolutely no problem understanding all of this. If you say no and mean it, then you get away from the guy, you l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 02:22 PM |
| 2 | Does the "rape culture" debate give TRP validity that women are essentially children who need their hands held and who irresponsibly put themselves into compromising situations?so repeating it didn't make it sink in, then. no is no, the end. If she really means no, then she needs to find a way to make it stick. Here's how. Don't lay on the sofa, get your stuff, leave the party and go home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 02:18 PM |
| 4 | Does the "rape culture" debate give TRP validity that women are essentially children who need their hands held and who irresponsibly put themselves into compromising situations?Why do you feel that women should get a pass for everything they do? Why don't you believe women should change their behavior? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 02:13 PM |
| 5 | Does the "rape culture" debate give TRP validity that women are essentially children who need their hands held and who irresponsibly put themselves into compromising situations?Frankly, it's person's body. It's not comparable to theft of goods. It's comparable to violent bodily assault Bullshit copout. It's the exact same thing. In undecided's scenario, the woman is at fault for willfully going into a neighborhood she KNEW was dangerous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 02:12 PM |
| 5 | Does the "rape culture" debate give TRP validity that women are essentially children who need their hands held and who irresponsibly put themselves into compromising situations?Everything in your post is blaming men for women's stupidity and failure to understand men. That is 100% misandry. The issue with women being raped is women not being very smart about where they go, who they are with and what they do when they're out and with said people. If you lay on a sofa with a guy you don't really know very well, you're sending a message that you might at some point be interested in sex. That some point might be 1 minute from now or 1 month from now. If you don't want to s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 02:10 PM |
| 2 | Does the "rape culture" debate give TRP validity that women are essentially children who need their hands held and who irresponsibly put themselves into compromising situations?Are women essentially retards who can't understand that laying on a sofa with a guy you've probably been making out with part of the night means she's showing interest in him? Are women essentially retards who can't understand that laying on a sofa with a guy sends a message? Do all women need to be handheld through life and expect men to leap to their aid when they're drunk and/or in a situation? Come on, it's not rocket science that if you don't want sex, maybe you should not lay on a sofa wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 02:04 PM |
| 12 | Does the "rape culture" debate give TRP validity that women are essentially children who need their hands held and who irresponsibly put themselves into compromising situations?IF a woman is not strong enough or independent enough to tell a man "NO" and make it stick, then she should not be attempting interactions with men and should not be having sex. She should not be drinking in public places or getting drunk, with drunk men. She should not be laying on sofas with men she's decided she doesn't want to fuck. She should go home and stay there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 02:02 PM |
| 5 | Does the "rape culture" debate give TRP validity that women are essentially children who need their hands held and who irresponsibly put themselves into compromising situations?Agree with the post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Toxic Femininity?It's a list of things that women do that are toxic to other people. Toxic femininity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 01:58 PM |
| 5 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingThen I disagree with the post. A man should stop when a woman stops him. It's up to a woman to put the brakes on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?Men do have agency. whether men have that agency in this situation is irrelevant. What's under discussion is WOMEN's agency. It is not the job of a man to protect a woman he's trying to have sex with. It is the woman's job to protect herself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 01:50 PM |
| 3 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingwe can't trust all women to be assertive when rejecting someone. Some women are just not assertive. If a woman cannot be assertive when rejecting someone, she should not be having sex and she should not attempt interaction with men. We live in a rough, difficult world full of people who don't give a shit about anyone else. Women chose to be part of this world in all aspects. The world won't change to accommodate women; you will have to deal with the world as it is and not as you want it to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 01:44 PM |
| 2 | Does an individual's "N-Count" have a direct correlation with the success of a marriage?By observation: a woman's N does seem to correlate directly to marital success (or at least her marital happiness). A man's N, not so much. As a side observation: I don't even know why Blues continue to ask this question. You get the same answers from Reds and the opposite answers from Blues, no common ground is ever reached, no minds are ever changed, and it's just shit flying from one side to the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 01:40 PM |
| 0 | Is it time to insist on Therapy for her trauma?What is HER premarital N? | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/08/16 10:22 PM |
| -1 | Is it time to insist on Therapy for her trauma?How long married? Kids? Premarital N? You have a broken woman. By that I mean a woman with a deep mental and emotional trauma that is affecting her sexual response. I'm asking about kids because some breakages can't be repaired and if the sex is not good and her response isn't good, then maybe it can't be salvaged. That's a call only you can make. It sounds like a big part of this, though, is reduced attraction because of BP, beta, etc. You're fixing that. My question is whether her mental/emoti… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/08/16 07:58 PM |
| 2 | College adviseYes I'd trade the college experience for money and work experience. | /r/askTRP | 29/08/16 07:19 PM |
| 3 | Shouldn't we try to make women less hypergamous to solve the problem of incels and undersexed betas?I think the proposed cure is worse than the disease. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Found out plate was engaged... red flag?First I think her prior engagement is really relevant only if you're thinking of upgrading her from plate to GF. Second: Whether it's a red flag depends on a lot of things. Did she lie about it? Did she try to keep that info from you? What kind of man was she engaged to? Why did it end? If she lied about it, that says much about her character and what she thinks about you. The kind of man she was engaged to might tell you a lot. Was he a Chad? Very attractive? You might be dealing with an alpha … | /r/askTRP | 29/08/16 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?You're wrong | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?It's not the point. You've still missed it. here's the entire point: If you are a woman and you choose to drink and be drunk around drunk men, then you should expect that on occasion, things will get a bit out of hand. The world is a rough, hard place full of people who don't give a shit about you. That includes men. You should expect that most men will see you sexually and express sexual interest in you, particularly if you're at a place where there's lots of drinking going on and it's a place … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 06:36 PM |
| 4 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?The entire point of this post and my replies here today are --the world is full of bad men who might try to cross your boundaries --most men you're talking to will eventually show some sexual interest in you --you need to defend yourself against sexual conduct by bad men, particularly if you choose to drink in public places and be drunk around drunk men --here are things you can do to defend yourself. One way is to not lay on a couch with a man you don't want to fuck. Another is to go home when … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 06:09 PM |
| 2 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?Please. You and one other poster are completely missing the point of the example. It's an attempt to shame me into silence and virtue signal that others are "better" because they wouldn't "do such a thing". It's all "shut up Pem and stop talking". You're completely missing the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 06:04 PM |
| 3 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?And, Doc, because that's the real world. The real world is full of bad men and bad women, both of whom can appear "good". The point is how can women defend themselves against bad men. One way to do that is, in the situation in BiggerDThanYou's post, go home when it's wound down and you've decided sex ain't happening tonight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 05:57 PM |
| 3 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?But when one opens the door, one must use it to explore relevant matter. You're now having a mini-trial on irrelevant matter. The relevant matter is "what can girls do to defend themselves against boundary crossing behavior". The irrelevant matter is "is what Pembayliss did 'wrong'?" The point you're trying to make is to deflect attention from the real issue (how women can defend themselves) and direct to "EVIL Pembayliss!!" Pure ad hominem -- "you should not listen to Pem's argument, because Pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 05:54 PM |
| 5 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?No, it's shaming, plain and simple. It's virtue signaling. It's "I'm better than that eeeevil Pembayliss because I wouldn't do such a thing." It's "men who try to put their arms around girls while they're drunk are eeeevil and immoral, and I am better than those bad men are because I am more virtuous than they are. No one is excusing any bad behavior. The point is that bad behavior happens, and there are ways for women to defend themselves against it. That was the point. The point was not "Pemba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 05:52 PM |
| 3 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?Very well said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 05:39 PM |
| 4 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?Then when it kept going, she should have pushed him off, yelled at him, told him to stop, reached down, crushed his balls, picked up her shit and gone home. If she really didn't want to fuck the guy, she shouldn't have been laying on the couch with him in the first place. She should have gotten her shit and gone home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 05:36 PM |
| 4 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?Please... spare me the outrage and the virtue signaling, OK? I think I did own up to it by describing it and using it as an example of what can happen when you put 100 drunk men and women together. Sometimes boundaries get crossed. Sometimes a woman will have to defend a boundary. This is about what women have to do to defend themselves; not about whether what Pembayliss did at a party 30 years ago is "wrong". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 05:31 PM |
| 6 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?OK. Let me give you the particulars. I was talking to a girl at a party, both of us drunk, around 100 other people who were also drunk. We were both in college, 20 years old. She told me to go away. I tried to put my arm around her. She shouted "no don't do that stop doing that." I stopped. It was at most, a simple battery which no one would have prosecuted. So you can keep on trying to shame me and virtue signal, but it's not going to work. When women go out and drink and choose to be drunk, ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 05:29 PM |
| 3 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?Nice attempt at shaming. Not going to work. Guys push the envelope. It's on women to put the brakes on. Particularly when women choose to go out drinking and be drunk with and around drunk men. Let's agree to disagree here. We're not going to convince each other of the correctness of our positions. You're wrong here; but I won't convince you of that. That's my last word. Enjoy being wrong on this one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 05:04 PM |
| 0 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?No it isn't wrong. It's testing a boundary she laid down. She defended that boundary HARD. Sometimes a woman is going to have to do that with a man. She did, and it worked. It particularly becomes necessary when she chooses to go out drinking and be drunk with and around drunk men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?Yes, I should have stopped, but I didn't. It happens. There isn't a man alive who hasn't crossed that line. The most it was, was a battery which would never be prosecuted anywhere. It's not a red herring -- if a woman goes out she should expect this kind of thing could happen and be prepared for it. A girl shouldn't have to shout, but she should be prepared to defend her boundaries in a forceful way like that girl did. That's the point. A girl has to be prepared to defend a boundary -- particula… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 04:52 PM |
| 2 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?No, gavin, he's talking about a situation I described from my past where I had a woman get in my face and reject me pretty forcefully. He's attempting to "creep-shame" me in a quite emotionally overwrought way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 04:48 PM |
| 6 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?I live in the US. I am very familiar with the law on the topics we're discussing. Doesn't change the fact that no one anywhere is talking about legalizing rape. When you set down a boundary, you have to be prepared to defend it. You cannot set down a boundary, then never do anything to defend it other than claim "rape" after the fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 04:45 PM |
| 4 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?FWIW, you probably handled it fine. I just have a hard time believing that you were told off for "upsetting" a male employee who you claim grabbed you from behind and crushed you against a counter. Either you didn't describe the situation accurately or your employer is a complete moron who won't mind getting hit with a high six figure sexual discrimination lawsuit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 04:42 PM |
| 4 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?Yes, they are individuals. And the individual in your OP was not raped or assaulted. She impliedly consented to sex. If she had not wanted sex, she should have gotten up, gathered her shit, and gone home instead of laying on a sofa with a guy whom she'd previously told "no" for sex. If she really doesn't want sex, then she should get up, collect herself, and get the fuck out of there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 04:40 PM |
| 1 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?Something you don't seem to understand is that the world is a tough, difficult place, full of all different kinds of people. Maladjusted people; people with sexual baggage; people with sexual hangups; people with kinks; people with personality disorders; and, yes, people who aren't very good at reading social cues. It's also full of criminals, perverts, rapists, and murderers. It's also full of married men who cheat and women who are full on nutcases. Women are responsible for taking care of the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 04:35 PM |
| 0 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?If a woman says no, she might have to keep saying "no". If she doesn't want that, then maybe she shouldn't be out in public. Maybe she shouldn't be out drinking. And yeah, there are some guys who need to be told "no" repeatedly before they get the message. That's life. The world is full of all kinds of different people, some of whom are better at it than others. If you don't want to encounter such people, then don't go where those people might be. EDIT: Something you don't seem to understand is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.Yep, I didn't understand the cue, because I was drunk and so was she. What I described happens frequently when men and women go to parties and get drunk together. You're getting really emotional right now. I'm done with this conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 04:09 PM |
| 7 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?Sometimes a woman freezes up (her body tells her she can't run or fight so everything locks down). Could be abused in childhood to have her brain programmed like this, who knows? If she is like this, then she should not put herself in situations where "freezing up" could happen. women who "freeze up" should not be having sex. she didn't want that orgasm from those unwelcome fingers or penis or whatever inside of her so on and so forth. then she should have gotten up and left before it ever got t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.If she tells you no in "no uncertain terms" then no, its not on her at that point its on you. Heh. So if I'm to listen to you, I have to never ever talk to her again, break my apartment lease, and move to the next town over. What you just attempted to, is actually FAR closer to actual and legal rape than the example in the OP. No it wasn't. Trying to put your arm around a girl isn't rape. It might be "battery" (which would never be prosecuted), but it isn't rape. indicative of some issues on you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 04:02 PM |
| 3 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?A woman should go out into the world presuming that most men are looking at her in sexual ways, because that's how men are. I do not believe for one minute in today's day and age that women are shamed for rejecting unwanted sexual advances. Women today are empowered to do, be and say anything they want to, anytime, anywhere. There isn't a woman alive today who hasn't had to reject an unwanted sexual advance -- every woman knows how to do this; some are more genteel and diplomatic at it than othe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 03:53 PM |
| 1 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.because I wanted to and I wanted to see if she really meant it. It isn't rape to attempt to keep going. It's on her to put the brakes on. if she cannot do that or feels uncomfortable doing that, she should not be at parties or bars or in situations where men meet women, and women meet men, and when women know that men are interested in sex with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 03:45 PM |
| 8 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?she had unwanted sex. That she felt coerced into it and that's a horrible experience, where she is completely justified for feeling violated and wronged Disagree that the sex was "unwanted". If she really didn't want sex, she should have gotten up, gathered her shit, called an Uber and gone home. Perhaps she feels coerced and had a bad experience, but that's not his fault. It's her fault for staying there once she decided she didn't want to fuck the guy. She isn't justified in feeling violated a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 03:42 PM |
| 7 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?It's weird, but it is not rape or sexual assault. It's not a crime to be weird. It's not a crime to be awkward and hamhanded when escalating. It's weird. it's uncomfortable. It's odd. But it's not illegal or immoral. And she could have said "NO". She was able to say no, and didn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 03:35 PM |
| 5 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?A girl should expect to be around men who are bigger and stronger than she is. That happens every time she goes out in public. A girl going to parties where men are should expect to be around men who are bigger and stronger, and drunker. She should expect to have to say "no" to a man, and make it stick. There are ways to do that. Speak up. Leave. Leave well before it gets uncomfortable. Don't make out with strangers. Don't try to sleep on sofas with men you just met. Gather your shit, call an Ub… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 03:22 PM |
| 5 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?No it wasn't. She consented by kissing him back. The people calling it rape in bigger's thread were saying it was because he got turned down before, then tried again by getting on top of her and kissing her. She consented by kissing him back. If she didn't want to consent and didn't want sex, then she should have gotten up, gotten away from the man, gathered her shit, and gone home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.Goalpost moving. If a chick is at a party passing out, attempting to have sex with her is rape because she is unable to consent. that is not the situation here. That's not the situation we're talking about. That wasn't the situation with the woman in your OP. With the woman in your OP, her not resisting WAS consent in that specific circumstance. She was able to consent and did consent. In fact, the facts are that she did consent because she kissed him back. She did consent on her own free terms … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 03:16 PM |
| 3 | Have Girls and Women Changed Such that They Are Unable To Say "No" When They Do Not Want Sex?Really low status people tend to cave under any pressure Then they should not be having sex; should not be at parties; should not be drinking in public, and should not be laying on sofas with men they just met. Thing is... a lot of these tactics to get women to have sex work about as well on males, even straight males. Um, no. I used to be a really low status male. I was propositioned for sex by unattractive women. Know how I avoided it? I said "no". I said "don't want to". I walked away. I remo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 03:08 PM |
| 1 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.That's not rape culture. It's on a woman to say "NO" if she doesn't want sex. It's on a woman to resist. It's on the man to push for sex; it's on the woman to push back and resist if she doesn't want sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 03:03 PM |
| 3 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.In the story, he wasn't pointing a loaded gun at the girl. He was pushing for sex. If she didn't want sex, it is on her to push back and say "no". A man pushing for sex is not analogous to pointing a loaded weapon at someone and demanding money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 03:02 PM |
| 2 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.If she is not resisting, then she's consenting. In this case there was consent. He got on top of her. She didn't resist. He kissed her. SHE KISSED HIM BACK. There's his consent right there. He didn't rape her. Nothing changed. Most are still like that. Glad to hear it. If a girl cannot do that, she should not be having sex. Any girl who cannot do that, should not be at parties, should not be drinking in public, and should not be laying on sofas with men she has just met. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 02:55 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe there are women who genuinely find beta males mores sexually attractive than alphas,?what is "hot" about betas? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 02:36 PM |
| 3 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.Getting on top of her was escalating/asking. If she didn't want him on top of her, she could say, oh, I don't know, how about "GET OFF OF ME" or "STOP DOING THAT" or "YOU'RE HURTING ME". She could SAY NO. She can GET UP and LEAVE. Yes, he could stay where he was. But he didn't want that. He wants sex. He is controlling his "urges". He got turned down before, he stayed, he tried again, he's looking for signs of consent or at least the absence of consent. He kisses her, she kisses him back. There'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 02:27 PM |
| 1 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.Which is most men -- because most men push hard for sex and take advantage of every opportunity for sex that presents itself. Tried it your way. Tried asking nicely. Tried negotiating. Tried supplicating. IT. DOES. NOT. WORK. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 02:17 PM |
| 5 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.No, it's promoting SEX culture. I see, so if she says no ONE TIME, then I have to do what Archwinger says. I have to stop talking, stop asking, never ask for sex again ever, lose her number, and never ever talk to her again. If she says to me during a date "we're not having sex tonight", I have to immediately end the date, leave a $20 on the table, give her a $20 for cab fare, and move to the next town over. If my wife says to me "I don't want to have sex tonight", I have to immediately leave th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 02:13 PM |
| 2 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.Because in the real world no one prosecutes people for minor crimes like getting pushed up against a wall. You FIGHT BACK when that happens. The real world is a rough and tumble place full of dangerous people who don't give a shit about others. People need to learn to recognize such people and learn to either deal with them or avoid them. Such it is with women -- the world is full of men who want to take sex from women by any means necessary, including pushing HARD for it and taking advantage of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 02:07 PM |
| 2 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.Last word from me on this because it's off on a tangent and I'm not continuing this conversation... Anyone needing that kind of pre-sex prep should not be having sex. Anyone needing "aftercare" following sex should not be having sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 02:04 PM |
| 6 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.Yeah he is. He's "guilty" only of wanting sex. The way a man goes for sex is to push with increasing intensity for it and make moves towards it until someone stops him. What the fuck do you want him to do? Ask nicely for it? "Oh, m'lady, perchance are you up for some intercourse this lovely evening?" You've GOT to be kidding. Most TRP men took that tack for sex. That's what made them wash up on TRP's shores -- because they tried doing that, and IT DOESN'T WORK. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 02:00 PM |
| 1 | Do you believe there are women who genuinely find beta males mores sexually attractive than alphas,?Women find betas more "attractive" for marriage, but betas make women's lives hell too. Women married to betas absolutely hate that too, because they're not sexually attracted, and they want to be fucked by masculine men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 01:58 PM |
| 2 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.If you get pushed up against a wall, then YOU PUSH BACK. You SAY NO. You tell him to FUCK OFF. And if you can't do those things, then you don't go to places where those things could happen (like parties where everyone's drinking, fucking and getting high). Of course, she didn't get pushed up against a wall. She was standing against that wall and he stood there for a minute pushing up against her while SHE SAID AND DID NOTHING. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 01:53 PM |
| 8 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.Let me make this really simple and easy to follow for the people here claiming rape. If a woman does not want to have sex, she should not cuddle. She should not lay on a couch with a guy. She should not talk to the guy. Once this particular woman decided she didn't want sex, she should immediately stop talking to the man, tell him not to touch her anymore, get up from the couch, gather her stuff, and make her way back home IMMEDIATELY, by any means necessary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 01:46 PM |
| 7 | Why do redpillers seem to have such a big problem with androgyny/ masculine women/ feminine men ?I don't think it's that RP has a "problem" with masculine women. It's just that masculine women are not suitable for dating or marrying most RP men. They're fine for short term sexual "relationships". Masculine women aren't suitable for relationships, really, unless the man is an absolute foot stomping, snorting bull alpha who is far more masculine than she is, or the man is a submissive effeminate man who she dominates. I don't think RP has a "problem" with effeminate men, except to say that TR… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 01:41 PM |
| 7 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.Bad analogy. Sex is not robbery. Asking for sex is not robbery. Pushing for sex with a woman who's consented to cuddling with you is not a crime. Getting turned down, then waiting a while, then trying again to see if the answer is different is not a crime. Pushing ahead in the absence of a clear "no" is not a crime. EDIT: so I kissed him back and eventually things got heated and we fucked anyway. "THINGS GOT HEATED" translation: I kissed him back, I started getting turned on, I decided I wanted … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 01:32 PM |
| 2 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.Due to PTSD, I sometimes freeze up during sex. Especially with someone new. WADR, I'd respectfully suggest you abstain from sex until you get that handled. It is in no way, shape or form "normal" to "freeze up" during sex, and if that's a response you have, you really should get that handled before you have sex again | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 01:28 PM |
| 6 | Rape Culture and the anatomy of a regret rape case.You withheld consent initially, but then you implied consent by not refusing his advances later This sentence is promoting rape culture and is defending the behaviour of rapists. He did something wrong, by ignoring her dissent, but they only blame her for not resisting harder. That's rape culture. That's the crux of it right there, and that's why it's not rape. She said no before, but he tried again later. She didn't say no that time. The problem with your position is that it infantilizes women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/16 01:26 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Alpha and beta traits are largely genetics, and any self-improvement can only level you up to a certain degree.You're missing the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/16 10:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Alpha and beta traits are largely genetics, and any self-improvement can only level you up to a certain degree.Yep. that's the "alpha" archetype I've seen called Fuckbuddy Rockbanddrummer. He's the druggie drop out, never works out, naturally thin, arrogant asshole, always broke, but gets laid all the time because he's in a shitty garage band that plays the local bars. Goes home with a different bar chick after every show. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/16 10:09 PM |
| 3 | Married people: what is something none of the pills seem to grasp about marriage?Do a really damn good job of vetting. The absolute most important part of the entire process. No man should marry any woman unless he is getting 80+ % of what he wants. If he has any doubts at all, he should next her immediately. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/16 10:03 PM |
| 2 | So my ex texted me after a year of not speaking to herI kicked her out about a year ago after she went nuts on me and started pulling crazy BPD stuff. Ignore her text. Because this text from an unsaved number accusing me of signing for a package and how shes gonna call the police on me. I responded with whos this? and she sent a screen shot of a text message I sent that she never responded to. Is that same BPD shit. Do not respond any further. Do not let this woman into your life again. Stay as far away from her as you can. do not invite further co… | /r/askTRP | 28/08/16 09:47 PM |
| 13 | I feel offended by my coworker offering to set me up with one of her ugly friends, any advice?It doesn't matter why your coworker is trying to set you up with a woman you're not attracted to. What matters is whether you want to go out with this woman or not. What matters is what you want. If you're not interested, and it sounds like you're not, just say "I am not interested, thanks very much" She'll say "how come? She's so NICE! She's so COOL!" You reply "I am not interested." She'll say "It's cause she's fat, right? ASSHOLE!" "I'm not interested." You just keep saying that. "I am not in… | /r/askTRP | 28/08/16 09:43 PM |
| 3 | Is my girlfriend's lack of female friends a good enough justification to allow her to attend frat parties?You don't really get to "allow" her to do anything. The way you phrase it to YOURSELF is something like this. "She can do whatever she wants. if she wants to go to fraternity parties, that's fine; but she won't be my GF." You do NOT tell her this. If you want to say anything to her about it, say it in general terms, referring to third parties. "Girls with BFs shouldn't go to frat parties, it's just not a good idea." If they are high value and faithfully minded toward their BFs, girls who have BF… | /r/askTRP | 28/08/16 09:31 PM |
| 1 | What's this man's SMV ceiling?5, if he loses weight, gets a better haircut and wardrobe, loses the glasses, and stops making moronic YouTube videos | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/16 09:13 PM |
| 1 | If you were dating a 9, how would you feel if they were a former 2?She wouldn't use a guide. a woman will NEVER go from a 2 to a 9 just by improving her personality. the only way for a woman to improve her number that much is to improve her physical appearance by leaps and bounds. It's all hypothetical really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/16 09:12 PM |
| 1 | If you were dating a 9, how would you feel if they were a former 2?I'd probably feel a lot like the women quoted in this post from quite a while ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/16 08:56 PM |
| 2 | If women lack empathy, why do they often feel sad towards the less fortunate?Because appearing to feel sad for the less fortunate is not actually feeling sad for the less fortunate. Also, because to the extent women actually DO feel sad for the less fortunate, it's virtue signaling. They do it because it makes them look good to other people and feel good about themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/16 08:53 PM |
| 6 | [CMV] /r/tbp is not a "satire" subreddit. It is a place where feminists gather to engage in Misandry.I can't challenge your view. I agree with it. thebluepill is a misandry site and a site where Blues congregate to make light of the problems of unpopular, unattractive men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/16 08:49 PM |
| 6 | Why do girls think they are the shit when they put on makeup.Because many women look a hell of a lot better with well-applied makeup than without it. Look at some of the before and after photos of some pornstars. Some of these pornstars are quite homely without makeup; then look downright hot with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/16 08:41 PM |
| 1 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.Dude, you pinged me in this convo. The "you" is a general "you", referring to Blues in general. And you're interjecting phrases (comfort vs attraction) and projecting meanings onto what she's saying. I'm looking at ALL the words and phrases used, not cherrypicking the ones that best fit a narrative. And ALL those words and phrases taken together mean "like, affinity, affection", not "sexual attraction". She even said she would have had sex with him. In a hypothetical parallel universe in retrosp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 10:18 PM |
| 1 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.Because she said he wasn't hot, and she was attracted to him She's not saying she was attracted to him. She's saying she LIKED him. She is NOT saying she found a not-hot guy hot. She is saying she LIKED a not-hot guy, she had affection and affinity for a not-hot guy, and would have dated a not-hot guy. That is NOT the same thing as her saying she found a not-hot guy hot. Cuittler specifically said she did NOT find him hot, because.... HE WAS NOT HOT. I don't know why you're sperg-ing out over wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 09:48 PM |
| 1 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.But once in awhile, a woman will find a not-hot guy hot for reasons that only make sense to her. (For the record that last sentence is what she means by his brain turning her on) And how exactly do you know that? EDIT: She is NOT Saying she found a not-hot guy hot. She is saying she LIKED a not-hot guy, she had affection and affinity for a not-hot guy, and would have dated a not-hot guy. That is NOT the same thing as her saying she found a not-hot guy hot. Cuittler specifically said she did NOT … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 09:34 PM |
| 2 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.She was 13. She may not even have had her period yet, for god's sake. Look, you're the one who's been saying teenagers have (or at least normal teens SHOULD have) this shit all figured out and that "women like hot guys". you're the one saying EVERYONE (including 13 year old girls) just KNOWS that "women like hot guys". YOU are the one saying that, not me. You're the one reading into her words, and deciding (without her saying so) that she was comforted, not attracted. She has affinity and affect… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 09:19 PM |
| 2 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.No. She was not attracted to him. She liked him, she had a "crush" on him, she thought he was smart and funny and nice. Those are words of affection and affinity. They are NOT words of SEXUAL attraction. Also, she was 13. That's disingenuous. Especially from you, who's spent the afternoon here insinuating that you had this shit all sorted as a teenager. you called another poster a "dumbass". All afternoon you've been berating me, saying essentially "couldn't you just... FIGURE THIS OUT!!?? You c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 09:09 PM |
| 1 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.She was attracted to him? Here's what cuittler HERSELF says about him: I had a guy friend who was physically not very attractive: homely face, overweight, didn't dress very well, etc. Now, everone knew he was not very attractive SHE HERSELF SAYS HE WAS NOT ATTRACTIVE. She herself says he was not SEXUALLY attractive. That means no tingle. That means no desire. Conflating comfort/like/affinity/affection with SEXUAL attraction. That's what was going on here. EDIT: WADR to cuittler, she is NOT descr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 08:54 PM |
| 1 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.take some personal responsibility I did. r/theredpill | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: What separates TRP from r/seduction? Do You think their advice is good?Seduction: PUA. TRP is not PUA. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 08:33 PM |
| 2 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.No. I didn't create anything. It was created FOR me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 08:30 PM |
| 2 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.Jesus H. Christ. The culture: Church, politics, religion, news, government, employers. Men and women. Actually INTERACTING with adults. It's much more than movies, TV and music. As for all the media/entertainment messages: Dismissed by adults around me as "fiction", "not real", "just entertainment" and "you can't base your life on what happens with celebrities, or with actors playing people who they really aren't, on TV." News reports, talk shows: Women are wonderful, women don't lie about sex, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 08:17 PM |
| 2 | CMV - Charisma is the most attractive trait in a male. Being socially awkward is less attractive than anything else.Nope. Looks are the most attractive trait in men, in this current SMP. I am in a debate with a female PPDer at another thread right now in which she is telling me basically "women like hot guys" and that she simply cannot fathom how men cannot get this. She cannot understand how it is that fat, ugly autistic men can possibly believe they are attractive. She cannot understand how it is that fat, ugly autistic men are unable to see how women gravitate to hot men. In this current SMP, where women d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 08:08 PM |
| 1 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.I hear you, but any guy who wants to see the reality of female sexuality needs to watch this show (SATC). Most women specifically tell us "nope women aren't like that" But if you put a show like "MANswers" in front of men, we say "yep, that's pretty much how we are". Plus, you do understand SATC was created and exec produced by a gay man, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 07:59 PM |
| 1 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.His body didn't turn me on but his brain did, Please help me understand this. I truly do not get this. Your sister u/smurfesmurferson is telling us "women like hot guys" and (paraphrasing) "of COURSE you can't be ugly and fat and expect to get ANYTHING you autist". You're over here talking about being "turned on" by some ugly fat kid's brain. WTF are you talking about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 07:58 PM |
| 2 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.Assuming it's correct that "the stripper thing" is as you say it is (and I don't think it is; I don't think women are told men hate strippers but girls secretly know hurr durr men really do like strippers) Here's the disconnect. Women expect men to secretly lust after slut whore strippers and lie about that, because men are sexist asshole pigs who lie about EVERYTHING. Men are sex obsessed and never ever stop thinking about and wanting sex. The culture and pretty much everything else tells us me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 07:49 PM |
| 1 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.I didn't ask for sympathy. I noted simply you have no EMPATHY - you can't put yourself in someone else's shoes and try to see things from someone else's perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 07:41 PM |
| 4 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.You liked him but you weren't sexually attracted to him, and neither were your friends. You said those things because you didn't want to hurt his feelings. You didn't tell him he was unattractive even though you believed he was unattractive. He asked me if I liked him after weeks of flirting. I said yes, he turned around and walked away without a word. He had his chance, but he liked our other friend more (she was hotter, tbh). OK, he was a bit weird. Had a chance with you and didn't take it. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 07:35 PM |
| 4 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.So basically, you lied to him to make him feel better. Yes, I understand that's what you did and why you did it. I'd point out that it probably didn't help him all that much. I'd also point out that the fact that he's married does NOT mean someone loves him for who he is, or accepts him, or that he has a good or even adequately satisfying sex life. You really don't know anything about him other than he was a cool guy who didn't try to sex you in high school because he knew he didn't have a chanc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 07:23 PM |
| 1 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.No, it isn't the only thing that makes sense. You have absolutely no empathy here - you can't put yourself in the shoes of someone else and even try to understand their life experience. To you, people have to "just get it" and "just figure it out". EDIT: Women are taught men WILL NOT MARRY strippers. They sure as hell are taught that men like good looking women who are not fat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 07:19 PM |
| 3 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.I didn't ignore it. I wasn't taught about it. I was specifically told I wasn't seeing what I was seeing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 07:18 PM |
| 1 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.as I said before.... I guess I don't understand what's so difficult to understand about this. Why is the lived experience of men so difficult for you to grasp? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 07:09 PM |
| 1 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.OK. You know what? You're determined not to believe me no matter what I say. So you go on, and you believe whatever you want to believe. Have a nice day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 07:03 PM |
| 1 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.Sure. I did that. At age 11. Where I had absolutely NO power to determine what was right and wrong, no power to determine what I was hearing, no power to determine what filters were being used. OK. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 07:01 PM |
| 1 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.I didn't say "im right because I'm right". I said "this is why". You asked why; I told you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 07:00 PM |
| 4 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.I just fundamentally don't understand how you started at that premise in the first place. I can help you with that too. The other thing is that women know very well what men find attractive, because women are specifically taught from a very young age what men like, and the info they're given is more or less accurate. By contrast, a lot of men do not know what women find attractive, because men are specifically taught exactly the WRONG things by most people -- especially men raised by women, or m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 06:55 PM |
| 3 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.Maybe you need to read it again. Let me help you.... So, is an impressionable kid going to have the depth and breadth of life experience to discount all of that, and just believe what he's seeing, particularly when every single person around him, including men, is telling him this exact same thing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Should I delete pictures of my ex off of my social media?Yes, delete all photos of your ex from any social media accounts/pages you have or use. | /r/askTRP | 26/08/16 06:43 PM |
| 2 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.Read this as many times as you need to in order for you to understand it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 06:31 PM |
| 2 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.Post pictures of examples of men you believe are "nice" and to whom you're attracted. They don't have to be the actual men; just men who resemble those men. I think you're describing comfort with "nice" men. List examples of "beta" traits you find SEXUALLY attractive. By "sexually" attractive I mean those traits tingle you, make you horny, make you physically desire that man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 06:07 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men with naturally high SMV criticizing TRP is extremely hypocriticalNaturals who identify as Blue constantly come here with "Can't you just figure it out? I mean, I did. I'm naturally good looking, I'm smart and socially adept and have cool hobbies. I just figured this all out when I was in second grade. All you have to do is just be more like me!" "Those poor people need to just stop being poor." "Those dumb people need to just stop being dumb." "Those weird people need to just stop being weird." "Those _______ people need to just stop being ___________." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Red pillers: Do you red pill theories for race, religion, fantasy football, or any other topic besides sexual strategy?Eh. Alt-right is what you're looking for | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 06:00 PM |
| 4 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.Women are sexually attracted to men who are attractive. Being nice makes women COMFORTABLE. So if a sexually attractive man is nice to her (sometimes), then she'll be COMFORTABLE, but not attracted. Nice makes her comfortable; has nothing to do with sexual attraction/tingles/desire. "Nice" is not sexually attractive. I can't fucking believe I am having this discussion again. I'm going to make a post about this, because once again, you're confusing and conflating "comfort" with "sexual attraction… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 05:37 PM |
| 6 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.They are told that "being nice" is sexually attractive. they are lied to in this regard. So when they go out and drop a ton of "nice" on a girl they like, they get frustrated and pissed off that what they're doing isn't working. It's because they've been taught exactly the wrong things to do and be. This is about the 1000th time I have explained this on this sub. It's at least the second time I've explained it to you. What about this do you not understand? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 05:26 PM |
| 5 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.Ferris Bueller's Day Off: +1 EDIT: The other good one is where Ferris describes Cameron. Cameron is so tight that if you stuck a lump of coal up his ass, in two weeks you'd have a diamond. Red Pill truths keep on coming. NOTE to people asking "well if you saw this movie, why didn't you "just figure it out"?" ANSWER: BEcause we were told "movies are fantasy; they're not real life, you can't base your life on what happens in movies. However there is an exception: Disney romcoms are accurate reflec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 04:58 PM |
| 12 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.The problem is that these men were taught that their shit is actually grapes. Everyone around them tells them that their shit is grapes. Then they get into the real world and say "hey? Why is everyone rejecting my grapes?" No one tells them their "grapes" are actually shit, because they want to "be nice" and feign politeness, or more likely, because they don't know shit from grapes themselves. A lot of people, usually those closest to them, tell them their shit is not only grapes, but good wine.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 04:26 PM |
| 2 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.Guys have to be specifically taught, trained and instructed on it as boys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What is the personality of an omega male?And they have those female inhibitions and passive behavior because they were specifically raised, trained and taught to be that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 04:16 PM |
| 3 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.r/theredpill | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 04:15 PM |
| 4 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.I don't know... can't you just get it? Can't you just figure it out? Ok, if you don't have kids and don't interact with kids, then forget it. It was more a statement in general directed to women, not to you in particular. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 04:11 PM |
| 2 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.Women should stop saying these things. Women should teach girls not to say these things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 04:10 PM |
| 5 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.Then teach girls not to say it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 04:07 PM |
| 7 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.*Takes deep breath, prepares for speech he's given at least 1000 times before on this very sub ..... Whenever we would ask girls about this, we got this response or something like it: "Those guys are just EYE CANDY. We don't REALLY like guys like that. They're nice to look at, but looks aren't important. What matters is what's on the INSIDE. Plus, guys who look like that are assholes. We don't want to date them or have sex with them. we just like looking at them. We really like "nice guys" like.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 04:03 PM |
| 4 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.A lot of people hear that women like nice guys, and think that means they can focus solely on their personality and not their physique. That's a mistake. Women can help with this by not saying bullshit like "It's what's on the inside that counts" "Looks don't really matter (all that much)" "But you have such a GREAT personality" and the ever popular "Just be yourself" (which, contrary to what people say, DOES NOT MEAN "just be the best version of yourself". "JBY" means you do not need to change,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 03:59 PM |
| 13 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.You and BPers can help with that disconnect by not saying it. Maybe more RPers would "get it" if people would say "what's on the outside DOES count" and "Looks DO matter". But most people would rather preserve social graces and feign politeness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 03:57 PM |
| 1 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.Haha. I had to read this a couple of times to get it, but I got it. Good one. Have an upvote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 03:54 PM |
| 5 | What women really want when they say they want a nice guy.What women really want is a man with self respect who is also nice to them and respects their opinions. Let me fix this. What women really want is a sexually attractive, hot man with self respect who is also nice to them validates them and affirms their value and respects their opinions sometimes. That's better. I'd even question the "respects their opinions" part. I have known many, many women who will fall into bed at the drop of a hat with attractive assholes who have much, much "disrespect" … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 03:52 PM |
| 1 | In defense of the special snowflakesThe Red Pill response to this is "OK, but it doesn't matter, because most people aren't special snowflakes." And it's a better use of a man's time to direct effort at the trends, not at the outliers, because he has a better shot at success if he follows the prevailing trends. Outliers aren't worth the time and effort most of the time, first because you have to find one; then you have to work to get this one. And if he fails, he's wasted his effort on this one outlier/snowflake. If you don't get … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/16 01:23 PM |
| 1 | If you feel you are being used, do you call her out on it or just stop communication?You haven't had sex yet. That's probably because you haven't escalated to it, or she sees you as a great "friend", or she's just not attracted to you. Ignore, delete and block. Don't call her out on it, unless of course she's such a great friend and you value her friendship and insights about life in general. Because if she's a great friend you can talk it out and communicate about it and reach a healthy compromise. And you'll be so enlightened, and so will she. And then you can be great friends… | /r/askTRP | 25/08/16 07:02 PM |
| 2 | Counter suing after false accusation, domestic or rape. Is it possible?This isn't a redpill question, it's a legal question. See a lawyer in person and give him all the details you can't possibly give us in a post on reddit. | /r/askTRP | 25/08/16 06:58 PM |
| 1 | Looking for insight on 1st Real ExYou want insight on her? Or you? she's not here. I can't talk to her; I'm talking to you. You're 23, she's 27. That's bad right there. Don't get into relationships with girls more than 2 years older than you. Those are plates; fuck only. They're going to move on from you for any number of reasons, many of which have little to do with you. Most women that age are looking for a beta bux (not the bux, the relationship/comfort/security). Or they're cougars looking to go on the prowl. You made a girl… | /r/askTRP | 25/08/16 06:49 PM |
| 2 | How to stop being soft spoken?Practice not being soft spoken. Talk to a lot of people. | /r/askTRP | 25/08/16 05:27 PM |
| 2 | Is every MRPer rich as fuck?MMMpf. $150K is not "rich". That's what I earn annually. It's upper middle class. It's comfortable; it is not extravagant or luxurious. | /r/askMRP | 25/08/16 05:26 PM |
| 23 | Current GF attending ex boyfriends sisters wedding...Is she taking you with her? Or was she invited alone and is going alone? Yes, it's controlling to ask her not to attend the wedding. At the end of the day, you cannot control her. Don't say anything more about this. If she goes, and you're against it, plate her. If she doesn't go, then maybe you've got a keeper. | /r/askTRP | 25/08/16 05:24 PM |
| 1 | Guys who wear cologne, do you wear it all day every day, or only when you're going out at night/weekends?all day every day | /r/askTRP | 25/08/16 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Frame for picking up entering 30sHmmm. I'm going to go all stream of consciousness on you here. First, assess the market. How are things where you are now? Plenty of attractive women? Dearth of attractive women? Second, assess the target market - your target. Are there a lot of women in the target market? Not so many in the target market? Third, have you really changed all that much since turning 30? Any reason not to do what worked before? I don't consider it wasting bucks going on expensive dates, if that's what you wanted to… | /r/askTRP | 25/08/16 05:06 PM |
| 7 | Ex's partyIt's best to stay "no contact" with an ex. Always gauge things like this by the metrics of "what do I want to do?" and "what is best for me?" She'd been talking shit about you to other people. Thus, you didn't want to, and not going was best for you. That's reason enough. | /r/askTRP | 25/08/16 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Is there a way to "snap out" of hardcore depression/personal inner crises?IN addition to what everyone else is saying: --get busy, and stay busy. Occupy yourself with positive things like work, school, leisure activities. Get a job doing ANYTHING. --interact with human beings. Get off your computer and talk in real time and real life with actual meatbag people. You are comfortable looking at screens. TALK TO HUMAN BEINGS. --stop watching TV. Stop consuming mass media like current movies, TV, news, reality shows, etc. Pick out a few shows you like and watch them on Net… | /r/askTRP | 25/08/16 04:45 PM |
| 2 | Had great sex, girl ignores me for 3 days, now she doesn't want to talk. What gives?Well she had previously mentioned that she had to leave at 10:30 so, being the helpful man I was, I decided I should tell her it was 10:45 while we were taking a break-- me still inside her. You weirded her out. Plus, so what if she had to leave at 1030 and it's 15 minutes past her "leave" time. That's her problem. Let her worry about that, especially while you're still fucking. All in all, I think she fucked you, you weirded her out a little. She decided fucking you was a mistake. She's pulling… | /r/askTRP | 25/08/16 04:09 PM |
| 3 | [Discussion] Has a RPer ever actually harmed someone because of his beliefs?No he wasn't. He frequented PUAHate which is as nonredpill as you can get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/16 03:17 PM |
| 3 | [Discussion] Has a RPer ever actually harmed someone because of his beliefs?So... statistical "probability"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 11:37 PM |
| 3 | [Discussion] Has a RPer ever actually harmed someone because of his beliefs?Source? Evidence? Factual basis for your claim? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 11:36 PM |
| 5 | [Discussion] Has a RPer ever actually harmed someone because of his beliefs?But you have no evidence for this belief. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 11:36 PM |
| 2 | Do you think Trump will win?ok. He's not going to win. He's going to lose decisively in the popular vote (probably by 4 or 5 points) and in an electoral landslide. NY, IL, CA, DC, OR, WA, VT, MA, NH, ME and CT are all total locks for Clinton. All she needs to do is pick up PA, FL or OH, and it's done. | /r/askTRP | 24/08/16 11:34 PM |
| 7 | What r/thebluepill is aboutHe is, and he should be; but people don't take him seriously; and dismiss him out of hand. Just by virtue of identifying as a Republican will cost him 35% of the popular vote. Just because he told Megyn Kelly and the rest of the lamestream media where to stick it will cost him another 5 to 7% of the popular vote. And just because he is Donald "You're Fired" Trump, multi-millionaire, will cost him more in the popular vote. People see Trump as a joke, a gigantic troll job on the entire country. A … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 11:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Most women are more or less asexual, putting up with sex only to secure a good husband.For some reason, women who are disattracted to their husbands and just want to get the sex over with, would rather just lay there and let him dump a fuck in her. I think that reason is that a BJ takes active work; she has to do work to give him head. With sex she can lay on her back, starfish it, and let him jackhammer into her with minimal effort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 11:19 PM |
| 8 | What r/thebluepill is aboutNot only do Blues think it's all a joke; they think you're a misogynist and a sexist. They have already prejudged you as having sinister motives and intent. You are a bad human being, acting in bad faith. Doesn't matter how intelligent your arguments are. You identify as Red, you are A Bad Human Being. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 11:17 PM |
| 3 | What r/thebluepill is aboutOh OK. Got it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 11:12 PM |
| 6 | What r/thebluepill is aboutLOL at the photo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 10:46 PM |
| 6 | What r/thebluepill is aboutFunny you say that; because TBPers certainly don't extend that same courtesy to TRPers. Blues automatically presume TRPers are acting in bad faith, are misogynists and sexists, have sinister motives and intent, even when TRPers come here and "make cogent, intellectual honest and serious comments". TBP doesn't extend to TRP the courtesy of "what people do outside of here is irrelevant if they're serious and acting in good faith here". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Can what we term as a "slut" ever be a mentally stable woman?Yes. But it takes a shit-ton of work to get there. And even then it's a crapshoot. And even then, even if she's done all the work, you still shouldn't devote everything you've got to her. | /r/askTRP | 24/08/16 10:39 PM |
| 9 | Do you think Trump will win?How is this an asktrp question? No, he won't win. The fix is already in for Clinton. | /r/askTRP | 24/08/16 10:38 PM |
| 6 | What r/thebluepill is aboutOK. I don't have to take them seriously while they attempt it. And no one else should, either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 10:35 PM |
| 5 | What r/thebluepill is aboutNot with me they don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 10:33 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Most women are more or less asexual, putting up with sex only to secure a good husband.As someone who actually doesn't like sex wut Can you explain the married women who hate sex no BJ thing? It's a common trope among married men whose sex lives start deteriorating that the first thing to go is BJs, particularly after marriage. It's been explained to me here at PPD that women don't really like BJs all that much; they do it only for relationship preservation purposes and because their men like it. So once a wife has a man on lockdown after the wedding, she mentally says "GREAT!! Go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 09:30 PM |
| 9 | What r/thebluepill is aboutSure you can. I just don't have to take you seriously while you do so. Fascinating to see how much you care about my views on this, after professing not to care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 09:22 PM |
| 11 | What r/thebluepill is aboutNo, because TRP is not a circlejerk site whose sole and only purpose is to make fun of people in another subreddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 09:19 PM |
| 6 | What r/thebluepill is aboutI know. You care so little you needed to bang out a comment reply to me to tell me how little you care. Cool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 09:18 PM |
| 5 | What r/thebluepill is aboutClose but not really. The point is that leftists don't take Trump seriously precisely BECAUSE of his pre-election conduct in other venues. TRP should not take individual TBP posters/commenters seriously precisely BECAUSE of their conduct in other venues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 09:16 PM |
| 10 | What r/thebluepill is aboutJust because you make fun of something doesn't mean you can't seriously debate it. Blues can attempt to "seriously debate" whatever they wish. But I don't have to take them seriously when they attempt it. Besides, TRPers make all sorts of dismissive and insulting statements about TBPers (or just blues in general) here and on TRP--should they not be taken seriously either? TRP is not a circlejerk site devoted to making fun of people who post in another subreddit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 09:13 PM |
| 4 | Blue Pill: What should "marriage" (Anglosphere/Western hemisphere sense of the word) bind people to do?Not a bad answer, actually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 09:11 PM |
| 15 | What r/thebluepill is aboutI've taken u/cuittler's post at face value. I accept that r/thebluepill is about circlejerking, satire, parody, and making light of men's relationship problems. I get that. My point is that people who post there have every right to post those things; but they do NOT have the right to demand that anyone else take them seriously when they come here. Let me draw a parallel. Donald Trump. For years, Trump has been a self aggrandizing, self absorbed shameless huckster, promoting himself and his brand… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 09:07 PM |
| 7 | What r/thebluepill is aboutI'm not implying anything, other than no one should take seriously anything posted by people who post at r/thebluepill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 08:59 PM |
| 11 | What r/thebluepill is aboutPerhaps THEY joke then take it seriously. That doesn't mean I, or OTHERS, have to take THEM seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 08:58 PM |
| 7 | What r/thebluepill is aboutMost people nowadays should not be allowed to vote. Such a person can attempt serious discussion on politics; but they should not demand to be taken seriously when they try to do so. Nor should they be allowed to bitch about the fact that certain people don't take them seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 08:57 PM |
| 11 | What r/thebluepill is aboutNo. They don't get to have it both ways. They don't get to say "fuck TRP and I don't give a shit about hurting men"; then come here, put on glasses and a cardigan sweater, and affect a serious acumen. They don't get to circlejerk all over the place at TBP; then come here and say "just joshing about my misandry! Can't you take a joke? It's all in fun!" Fuck that bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 08:54 PM |
| 9 | What r/thebluepill is aboutI didn't say anything about "preventing" anyone from coming to PPD. I said only that people who post at r/thebluepill should not be taken seriously when they attempt "serious debate". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 08:52 PM |
| 9 | What r/thebluepill is aboutYou don't get to have it both ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 08:48 PM |
| 14 | What r/thebluepill is aboutIF that's what r/thebluepill is about (joking, venting, satire, parody and circlejerking), then individuals who post there should not come here and expect to be taken seriously when they attempt "serious debate". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 08:39 PM |
| 2 | [Debate] Do women like sex as much as men do?If women enjoy sex as much as men, shouldn't more guys be getting lucky? Maybe someone responded to this already. This stood out to me. Women do enjoy sex a lot, but only with attractive men. Given the choice between sex with an unattractive man and going without, most women choose "going without". So women liking sex a lot doesn't translate into more guys getting sex. It translates into attractive men getting more sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 07:37 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Most women are more or less asexual, putting up with sex only to secure a good husband.You would be correct if you said "Most women put up with sex only to secure a good husband after having hot fun sex with hot fun sexy guys for a period of time." Women have lots of sexual desire for attractive men. If all women could marry attractive men, they would, and be relatively happy for a few months at the most, until some other thing goes wrong. Women love, love, LOVE fucking attractive men. Actually, it would be even more accurate to say women love the affirmation of value and the vali… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 07:03 PM |
| 2 | what's the point of subverting presumption of innocence and reversing burden of proof on the accused in rape trials?You're being dishonest and disingenuous. no one is advocating for having sex with unconscious women, disabled women and women who aren't able to consent. In those cases, you're dealing with women who are UNABLE to consent. I'm done here. I'm not going to waste time "debating" people who can't do it honestly and in good faith. Have a good day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 03:04 PM |
| 4 | what's the point of subverting presumption of innocence and reversing burden of proof on the accused in rape trials?Because you're getting consent. You're just not getting AFFIRMATIVE consent as feminists define it. You're getting consent through her not saying "no". You're just not getting the 'hell yeah fuck the shit out of me right NOW" consent. And I know for sure the sex I'm getting is consensual because she didn't say "no". if she doesn't want sex, she can (and should, and MUST) say "no". She's a big girl, an adult, fully capable of making her own decisions and verbalizing those decisions. She's capable… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 02:55 PM |
| 3 | what's the point of subverting presumption of innocence and reversing burden of proof on the accused in rape trials?You're being dishonest here. NO one said anything about making rape legal. What's being discussed is what evidence is required to prove rape and who bears the burdens of proving it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 02:33 PM |
| 3 | what's the point of subverting presumption of innocence and reversing burden of proof on the accused in rape trials?Yes. Most people (women) are not forced into sex they don't want. Women in the West today are the most protected and most privileged humans ever to walk the face of the earth. Proposals for burden shifting and removing a basic element of criminal law are about power, and aggrandizing power to women at men's expense. They are not about anything else. EDIT: The "legal requirement to get consent" has ALWAYS been there. that's not new. What is new is the requirement that consent be continually expli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 01:54 PM |
| 4 | what's the point of subverting presumption of innocence and reversing burden of proof on the accused in rape trials?I can tell you that the idea of burden-shifting and removing presumptions of innocence are ideas that are germinating in law schools and among legal thinkers and scholars. Feminists glom onto the ideas, but don't often state them. I know this because I went to school with some of the people talking about these things (who were then students and are now law professors). It's starting with affirmative consent. The idea is to get it started on college campuses so as to get young men acclimated to a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 11:27 PM |
| 7 | what's the point of subverting presumption of innocence and reversing burden of proof on the accused in rape trials?The ultimate point is to consolidate sexual power in women. It's to remove all male power from the equation in sexual exchanges between men and women. This is also the point of "affirmative consent" laws on college campuses. Another point is to help women separate out attractive men from unattractive by chilling unattractive men from sexual conduct. Only attractive men will pursue women under such an oppressive legal environment. Attractive men aren't deterred by punitive anti-rape statutes or m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 10:14 PM |
| 4 | CMV How would you even know IF anyone follows TRP?And my read on it is, some RPWi are reformed sluts who are trying to get it right. Some are alpha widows who are overcoming their widowhood. Some are women who fucked up their relationships and are working to fix them; some are working to not fuck up their relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 09:52 PM |
| 2 | Brief Field Report; Advice Requested On If/How I Screwed UpJust a first read/first impression: You probably should have invited her to your place after the makeout session at the bar. A good rule of thumb is to escalate as far as she'll let you go, and stop if she puts hard brakes on. Sounds like from your description she was down to fuck right then; but YOU put the brakes on by.... taking your own uber home. What you should have done was invited her to your place; or suggested that the party continue somewhere. In the future, with a woman who is clearl… | /r/askTRP | 23/08/16 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Girl says "lets just be friends"Sleepover, BJs but no sex. Now LJBF. When she sent her initial text you should have said "k" or [no response] and then deleted/blocked her; hard nexted her. Your next text, the "I just got out of a bad friendship" one, was a lame attempt at amused mastery/cocky-funny. Don't do that. Once you're in the friendzone, no amount of cockyfunny will get you out. Whenever a girl says let's just be friends, you cut it off right then and there, and go no contact. You ignore all further attempts at contact.… | /r/askTRP | 23/08/16 08:53 PM |
| 5 | masturbating to pictures of ex?GtFO with this shit. if you have to ask strangers on a subreddit devoted to helping men with sexual strategy about whether it's bad for you to masturbate to pics of an ex, you have issues which are way, way beyond our pay grades. Maybe you need to get sorted on whether getting others' approval for your masturbatory practices is a good "sexual strategy". | /r/askTRP | 23/08/16 08:49 PM |
| 2 | LTR Redpill postmortemCont'd from prior response: I start residency and am pretty much consumed by work. I never contacted her after that, although I did see her occasionally through mutual friends over the next year. We would chat and catch up. I still found her attractive and remembered all the good times we had together, and although I had little free time was working tinder and went on occasional dates with girls. And the problem with this is....? I wasn't hung up on her or so I thought. Because you really cared … | /r/askTRP | 23/08/16 08:36 PM |
| 2 | LTR Redpill postmortemI've been trying to figure out why I feel this way and what I can do to snap out of it. I think much of it has to do with the fact that although I've hooked up I haven't found the level of emotional intimacy and I know she's emotionally invested in someone else. Maybe part of me still held out hope we would work things out and get back together but now I know I've been replaced. u/quicklogaccount did a great job on the quick and dirty analysis, and he's right about it. You had a so so, on again … | /r/askTRP | 23/08/16 08:36 PM |
| 2 | CMV How would you even know IF anyone follows TRP?Maybe a few are; that's to be expected | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 07:46 PM |
| 4 | CMV How would you even know IF anyone follows TRP?I don't take that from the statement; he's saying some RPWs are used up carouselers looking for beta cucks. I think he might be saying some RPWs are carouselers who really do want to get it right; and some are jaded and cynical and trying to apply RP to attract and keep the best man they can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 07:31 PM |
| 5 | If AWALT is true, why isn't #YesAllMen?this very conversation of AMALT doesn't bother me in the least Yeah. Discussions about male nature are common in the mainstream media. --all men just want sex --all men are horndogs --all men can compartmentalize better than women can --men can reduce women to their body parts/orifices --men are single minded, selfish, don't listen, have selective hearing/vision/understanding etc. None of this offends me. It's true by and large, not only of men in general, but of me in particular most of the tim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 07:23 PM |
| 2 | How to deal with annoying blue pill co-workers?Do not talk about your personal life, how you spend your time off work. It's none of their business. Don't talk about "red pill" stuff at work. Don't give advice to coworkers about dating, sex, etc. Just stop doing that. Go and have a good time with your coworkers. Don't respond to questions about your personal life. Just don't talk about it. If you bring women to these get togethers, let that fact speak for itself. | /r/askTRP | 23/08/16 06:22 PM |
| 3 | talking to an ex's sister, dead in the water?so i dated this one girl a few months back and she ghosted me because baby-daddy came back in the picture, You should have just been fucking her. No dating single moms. Single moms are for sex only. And you wrap it. No exceptions. I was also losing interest quickly in her due to mannerisms Next. and her trying to take the moral high-ground every-time we hooked up ( i told myself i wouldn't sleep with someone I'm not in love with.... etc...so why are you fucking me then?) , so I just let her go. … | /r/askTRP | 23/08/16 05:44 PM |
| 2 | What am I doing incorrectly?Read this. My guess is it's something in number 1. Something about you isn't quite right -- your speech, your look, your dress, your mannerisms, your... something. | /r/askTRP | 23/08/16 05:07 PM |
| 3 | CMV: TRPs generalizations are proof that it doesn't work on mature womenHobbies might or might not make a man more or less attractive. The points are that a man's hobbies or lack thereof either round him out and make him more interesting, or dull/dumb him down and make him much less interesting. A man's hobbies and pastimes, depending on what they are, get him in front of other human beings so he goes out and talks to them, interacts with them, gets to know them and they get to know him. One of the main problems with a lot of men coming to TRP is that they don't soc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/16 01:48 PM |
| 14 | CMV: TRPs generalizations are proof that it doesn't work on mature womenBut the third one is that mature women not only realized that they have to work hard as an adult and that there are consequences to her actions, but also what the red flags for cheaters and players are and thus ignores you even before you open your mouth. They are smart enough to realize what they want and also smart enough to realize that they don't want to be in a relationship with someone that places her second, will probably cheat on her or dump her for a stupid reason and doesn't even reall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 05:09 PM |
| 2 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.Because when you trigger flight, fight, or freeze, the part of your brain that handles such things is shut down. Then that person should not be having sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 04:50 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.No. It is the woman's responsibility to make sure she wants to have sex, and to speak up if she doesn't want to. It is also her responsibility to speak up if she changes her mind during sex and says "I don't want to anymore". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 04:47 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.This is ridiculous. The OP talks about lack of consent, i.e. consent never having been given in the first place. All she needs to do is say "no". If she doesn't want to have sex, she says "no" and that's the end of it. It's about the woman's ability to communicate and actually communicating "no". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 04:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV: A competent adult has an obligation to unambiguously communicate any withdrawal (or lack) of consent during a sexual encounter.any woman who "freezes up" during sex should not be having sex, ever, and should get help for that condition before she has sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 04:40 PM |
| 5 | Why marry a RPer?If what you're saying is correct, these unattractive guys will be able to pull pussy if they lie and say they're looking for wives, get the bang, string her along for a few months, then dump her. But most guys can't pull that off. For the ones who do, word will get around, and they won't be able even to pull off lying about wanting to get married. I dunno. If you're correct, most of these guys will still end up married to a woman who's the best pussy they ever had, and they'll still end up divor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 04:29 PM |
| 10 | Why marry a RPer?those same men won't be grateful...they won't even be interested. Yes, those men will be interested in sex. But they won't be able to get sex even with those washed up carousel riders. The chasm between attractive men and unattractive men will continue widening. Attractive men will get more attractive; unattractive men will become even more unattractive and undesirable. Attractive men are going to be living in a smorgasbord of pussy; unattractive men in a desert for the rest of their lives. The … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/16 04:18 PM |
| 3 | I've had an epiphany about sluts and divorce statisticsyou got it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 09:46 PM |
| 0 | SAHM's work hardSaid nothing of the kind or even close to it. If you're reading that into what I wrote, that's on you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 09:29 PM |
| 0 | SAHM's work hardI disagree there is intense pressure for women not to work. I see it just the opposite -- women are under intense pressure (mostly from the feminist liberal hegemony) to work. There is ridicule for women who are SAHMs, but only, again, from the hegemonic feminist ruling class. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 08:37 PM |
| 0 | I've had an epiphany about sluts and divorce statisticsCan't bond to a man. Sex isn't important or special to her -- it's now a means to an end, a tool, a weapon, or a shield. Her need to use sex and her inability to enjoy sex will cause her, and any man who invests in her, much pain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 07:17 PM |
| 3 | I've had an epiphany about sluts and divorce statisticscombination of some or all. With most women it's 1, 2 and 4. Most true alpha men don't care about a woman's N because they have options, they know women are for fucking only, they know they can easily replace any woman, and they refuse to tolerate bullshit or drama. They also often cheat, many times quite openly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 06:53 PM |
| 0 | SAHM's work hardI can't feel lots of sympathy for SAHMs, most of whom have that title out of the benevolence and generosity of their husbands, and most of whom are SAHMs BY DESIGN. Moreover, a court is definitely going to award alimony to an SAHM regardless of fault in divorce, at least for a year or two. She'll also get the kids. The child support and alimony will DEFINITELY tide her over while she gets on her feet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 06:51 PM |
| 4 | SAHM's work hardIf divorce or financial problems happen, you will suffer. Statistically, divorce will happen ONLY if the SAHM wants it. Most SAHMs who divorce are doing so of their own volition. If they are suffering, they brought it on themselves. Women who stay at home are expected to do a million thankless tasks. With most or all of today's modern conveniences, that's pretty easy. She has a working vehicle, and power/automatic everything. Washer, dryer, dishwasher, can opener, stove, appliances, lawn mower, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 06:16 PM |
| 4 | I've had an epiphany about sluts and divorce statisticsBecause 1) Youre hot 2) They have been in LTRs, not married. They didn't "settle down" with you. They eventually moved on or you did. I'd be willing to bet none of them invested anything in you that couldn't be pulled back immediately. They didn't purchase homes or cars with you. 3) They didn't have kids with you. 4) They put up only with small amounts of bullshit with you. Anything past their tolerance level caused the immediate end of the LTR. 5) They were fucking other women on the downlow. 6… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 05:17 PM |
| 2 | I've had an epiphany about sluts and divorce statisticsI am fascinated that people are more offended by the term "prostitute" than by the term "slut". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 04:06 PM |
| 3 | I've had an epiphany about sluts and divorce statisticsI didn't. By YOUR OWN DESCRIPTION, you have sex with men for money. That makes you a prostitute, escort, hooker... whatever you wish to call it. In the interest of furthering the substantive discussion I won't discuss it further in this particular context, except to note that it bears directly on how you view and think about these issues. The 1000 cock stare is a glassy look vacant stare. Lots of women who've had lots of sex display. Also accompanied by a forced smile. I'll look for a photo if I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 03:56 PM |
| 4 | I've had an epiphany about sluts and divorce statisticsI didn't insult you. You as a lawyer are surely familiar with the evidentiary principle of "opening the door". You literally invited me to assess you personally. You opened the door. There are other tells. There's the 1000 cock stare. Drink beer or hard liquor? Smoke? Lots of male friends? Talk about sex with men you date/fuck? The fact that you have a tattoo AT ALL is a tell. Ever in your life used weed or hard drugs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 03:02 PM |
| 2 | I've had an epiphany about sluts and divorce statisticsI doubt a lawyer who moonlights as a high end prostitute escort would seem like a virgin queen on ANY system of tells. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 02:44 PM |
| 1 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?If a man plays it right, you'll never know he finds you "minimally" attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 02:43 PM |
| 5 | I've had an epiphany about sluts and divorce statisticsNo one asks N on the first date. You look for tells. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 02:22 PM |
| 3 | I've had an epiphany about sluts and divorce statisticsA woman doesn't take 20, 40, 100 cocks and not suffer permanent damage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Instances of Wives losing attraction: How does it happen, When, And Why?Read the next paragraph. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 02:10 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Instances of Wives losing attraction: How does it happen, When, And Why?Suuuuure. Tell that to men who have been married 3, 5, 10 years and wash up at MRP. They've been "having sex" with their wives for that long, and their marriages are STILL in the toilet. Don't even look at MRP. Just look at the divorce rate -- most women divorce because they're just 'unhappy' being married. Most of those hapless men who will have their wallets pulled out of them through their asses don't even know what TRP or the manosphere even is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 02:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Instances of Wives losing attraction: How does it happen, When, And Why?That's not nonsense. Just because YOU aren't doing something doesn't mean other women aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 02:00 PM |
| 0 | Q4Men: Instances of Wives losing attraction: How does it happen, When, And Why?Sure, when Fido died, you didn't want sex... for a day or three. That didn't prevent you from being attracted; and I bet in a day or three you were back at it. Sure, you come home from work and you're a little stressed. You get over it, you sleep it off, and you're fine the next day. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about women who bitch about "oh we have these financial problems and I'm just nota ttracted to my doofus husband who can't pay the bills" or "I'm just so busy ALL THE T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 01:25 PM |
| 6 | I've had an epiphany about sluts and divorce statisticsThere's something to this. To me it's all chicken/egg. Whatever. Doesn't matter either way. She's damaged goods. Fuck, don't marry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 12:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Instances of Wives losing attraction: How does it happen, When, And Why?None of this has anything to do with sexual attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 11:34 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Instances of Wives losing attraction: How does it happen, When, And Why?What's your basis for saying this? I think C is a bullshit copout excuse, when what's really going on is B (lost attraction over time after the wedding) or A (not attracted from the start). Basis: Life doesn't get in the way of sex or sexual attraction. Women who are sexually attracted to their men make time for sex and make sure their husbands are well taken care of. It doesn't matter what else is going on... they make time for sexytime. Girlfriends who are hot for Chad don't let little things … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 10:05 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Instances of Wives losing attraction: How does it happen, When, And Why?Very very few women are EVER going to admit to ANYONE that they aren't sexually attracted to their husbands. They will never ever say it. They'll think it and act like it but they'll never come clean and admit it. Nor will most women ever admit that they were more sexually attracted to Chad who wouldn't marry them than they were/are to their current non-Chad husbands who would and did marry them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?mmmmpf. I call bullshit on that. If he's fucking her, he's at least minimally sexually attracted and wants to fuck her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 09:34 PM |
| 1 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?OK. But I didn't say that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?I didn't say men get turned on ONLY by their wives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 09:33 PM |
| 6 | For a philosophy about reasserting masculinity, why is TRP such a big pussy when it comes to dissent?r/theredpill's members are trying to help men unplug, and see the world and sexual strategy clearly for what they actually are, without a lot of surface noise from the rest of the culture/society. They're not there to debate or defend. They're there to render first aid and care to hurting, unhappy, confused men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 09:32 PM |
| 48 | The Red Pill was once called Common SenseYou can pinpoint it sometime around the release of Kramer vs. Kramer in 1979. The film was about a NYC advertising executive (Dustin Hoffman) whose unhappy depressed wife (a very young Meryl Streep) leaves him with their son who's about 6 years old. The rest of the film is about Hoffman's difficulties in being a single dad, his developing relationship with the boy, and his efforts to keep custody of the boy in the divorce. It's a tour de force of liberal nu-age maleness. Hoffman learns about han… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/08/16 09:18 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: Instances of Wives losing attraction: How does it happen, When, And Why?if we are sexually attracted to our current partner and sexually satisfied There's the rub, isnt' it? Do you really think I am that different than most other women? Don't even ask. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 09:01 PM |
| 0 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?He's having sex with her because he wants to. Let me repeat this as many times as it takes. Men do not fuck women they don't want to fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 08:50 PM |
| 0 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?"You're amazing and I love you I'm so turned on because I want you" You have absolutely NO idea how this works. First, men don't say this even if they feel this. At least they shouldn't say it. Or feel it. Second, "love" and "amazing" has nothing to do with his sexual desire. Two separate and distinct things. Third, men don't get hardons from watching commercials and then seek out their wives for sex. They get hardons because they're sexually attracted to and sexually desire their wives. Your vi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 08:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Instances of Wives losing attraction: How does it happen, When, And Why?Entire blog posts and book chapters have been written about this. Athol Kay covered this in lots of detail when he had most of his blog posts still up at MMSL. Nutshell: For a relationship with a man that can be expected to last more than a month or so, women need both attraction (sexual desire for the man) and comfort (security and ease of interaction). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 08:45 PM |
| 4 | Q4Men: Instances of Wives losing attraction: How does it happen, When, And Why?Yes, it's attraction. SEXUAL attraction. Too many people call "relationship comfort" "attraction", which it is not. Sexual attraction is "I want to fuck him; brings the tingle". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 08:36 PM |
| 8 | Q4Men: Instances of Wives losing attraction: How does it happen, When, And Why?Took a long time, but you finally said something I agree with. If that sexual compatibility is missing, that's a huge, huge problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Instances of Wives losing attraction: How does it happen, When, And Why?They were better than him 5 years ago AND now. But let's say you're correct - they weren't better 5 years ago but they are now (because Husband is beta-ing out). That doesn't mean A is out of the picture - it could be that she still wasn't very attracted to Husband then AND now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Instances of Wives losing attraction: How does it happen, When, And Why?Why does "I had better lovers/more attractive lovers" under B? Current man/husband isn't being evaluated by her in a vacuum -- he's being compared against other men, both real, imagined and "ideal", to see how he measures up. It's not just 'H is this/that/the other thing'; it's 'H is better/worse/same as/different from Tom and Mike and Bill and Brad and Jim....' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 08:10 PM |
| 4 | Q4Men: Instances of Wives losing attraction: How does it happen, When, And Why?all sorts of reasons. --she's getting older, running out of time, and wants a baby. --she wants to get a husband now --please parents by marrying a man her parents "approve" of --likes him, loves him, cares about him, thinks the "attraction will take care of itself" or "attraction/sex isn't important" Keep in mind (you too, u/sublimemongrel) it is NOT just "no attraction at all". It is also "less attracted to Husband than to the men she used to fuck" (I made this explicitly clear in the OP). Bot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 08:02 PM |
| 5 | Q4Men: Instances of Wives losing attraction: How does it happen, When, And Why?What makes you say A is the least common? C is a cop-out excuse for the real reason which is B. Agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 07:41 PM |
| 2 | Much of the distaste for TRP/RPW(i) stems from non-systematizers seeing systematizers systematize human interaction and being grossed outIt's not just sexual values; it's bonding ability. High N doesn't damage men in terms of bonding ability in the same way it does to women. High N damages women much worse in that area. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Been with LTR for 1 year and a half. I lied about my body count. Should I admit the truth.Don't tell her. | /r/askTRP | 18/08/16 07:21 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: Instances of Wives losing attraction: How does it happen, When, And Why?I know what women say about this. I want to hear what men say about this and what they've observed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?Sometimes men have sex with their wives simply because they are available You make it sound like that's a bad thing. I thought that's what men are supposed to do with their wives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 07:17 PM |
| 2 | How did the pill affect your faith in religion?The Red Pill affected my relationship to Church and organized religion much more than it affected my faith in God. I put much less faith in what clergy say. I stopped listening altogether to what women at church say. I noticed that women at church are no different at all from women who are not religious. There are no real differences at all between Christian women and nonChristian women. | /r/askTRP | 18/08/16 07:06 PM |
| 3 | Much of the distaste for TRP/RPW(i) stems from non-systematizers seeing systematizers systematize human interaction and being grossed outI'm sure there are some attractive systematizers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Instances of Wives losing attraction: How does it happen, When, And Why?I'm just interested in their viewpoints. This is a discussion post, not a CMV. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Much of the distaste for TRP/RPW(i) stems from non-systematizers seeing systematizers systematize human interaction and being grossed outBecause N signals a cavalier or utilitarian attitude toward sex. To the slut, sex is no longer something two people enjoy. Sex is a means to an end, a tool, a shield, or a weapon. High N women also are accustomed to being used by men (cost of doing business, so to speak) and using men to achieve their own ends. High N women have an agenda, and that usually involves anything from self protection to validation to accumulating material goods to getting a husband. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 06:35 PM |
| 2 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?Why don't you agree? These women were never attracted to begin with. Attraction cannot be created where it doesn't exist. If a woman's not attracted to you, you can't coax or cajole her into it, nor can you "teach" her how to be attracted, nor can she learn how to be attracted, nor can she make herself attracted. What's your basis for disagreeing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 06:29 PM |
| 2 | Much of the distaste for TRP/RPW(i) stems from non-systematizers seeing systematizers systematize human interaction and being grossed outNo... tried to find it and can't be bothered to keep going back in the archives.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 06:16 PM |
| 3 | Much of the distaste for TRP/RPW(i) stems from non-systematizers seeing systematizers systematize human interaction and being grossed outYes, Blues will still be repulsed; mostly because of "being tricked", but also because the guy had to learn it in a systematic fashion. It's unattractive that you had to "learn" it and that someone else KNOWS you had to "learn" it, rather than you just piecing it together on your own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 06:05 PM |
| 3 | Much of the distaste for TRP/RPW(i) stems from non-systematizers seeing systematizers systematize human interaction and being grossed outSure, women do feel this way about unattractive men. I reacted to ugly girls the same way. Except I feel sympathy and empathy for them. I don't want to date, fuck or marry them; but I do have sympathy and empathy for them. I think BP men look at TRP men with a reaction of "WTF is wrong with you? How come you don't get this? Just... I dunno! Just... go talk to those girls! Just be with them! If they reject you, so fucking what? Just go find some other ones! What the fuck is so hard about this? I'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 06:01 PM |
| 5 | Much of the distaste for TRP/RPW(i) stems from non-systematizers seeing systematizers systematize human interaction and being grossed outI think this is not quite complete. Yes, it's because systematization is going on. But it's also because of who the systematizers are -- unattractive men, and women who have "left the herd". To Blues, unattractive men should not be trying to figure this out. They need to know their place, and unattractive men trying to figure this out are clearly bucking against their societally- and genetically-imposed restraints. They need to stay unattractive, not attempt to improve, not attempt to breed, and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 05:58 PM |
| 3 | Much of the distaste for TRP/RPW(i) stems from non-systematizers seeing systematizers systematize human interaction and being grossed outMen who have had a history of sexual and relational failure with women are almost universally unattractive. Many are physically unattractive, yes, I do have that impression (mostly by being fat or out of shape). Most are sorely underconfident and have no idea how to talk to women or even interact with people in a "normal", neurotypical way. Mostly it's because of lack of training. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 05:56 PM |
| 3 | Much of the distaste for TRP/RPW(i) stems from non-systematizers seeing systematizers systematize human interaction and being grossed outSome consciously, most unconsciously. most Blues will NEVER outright say this. But they believe some of it. I suppose it would be more genteel and diplomatic to say I think blues believe unattractive men should just do the best they can with what little they have, not try to improve, "manage their expectations", wife up a ho-bag slut or uglo, and be happy. Or GTOW and be happy. Just as long as those godawful Reds shut up, go away, and stop talking about feminism, bitches, the fucked up sexual ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 05:51 PM |
| 2 | Much of the distaste for TRP/RPW(i) stems from non-systematizers seeing systematizers systematize human interaction and being grossed outThere are a couple of occasional PPD commenters of the purple and blue persuasion who say pretty much what I said about unattractive men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 05:48 PM |
| 2 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?Partner, sure; wife, yeah I care very much. And it's not just "she had sex before me". It's who she had sex with, how many, and what sorts of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 05:47 PM |
| 2 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?In some professions, it's more difficult, but not impossible, for a single man to advance. Men remaining lifelong bachelors is becoming more and more accepted and less and less taboo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 05:46 PM |
| 1 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?Want to answer my questions of a few posts back? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 05:40 PM |
| 5 | Much of the distaste for TRP/RPW(i) stems from non-systematizers seeing systematizers systematize human interaction and being grossed outYes much of the distaste for TRP/RPWi is because of systematizers "doing their thing". Breaking a thing down to its component parts, analyzing each part, talking about their analyses, checking notes with other systematizers, and also watching what nonsystematizers (naturals) are doing, how they do it and why they do it. They're grossed out by it because to "naturals" and women, people just shouldn't do this with human behavior. They just shouldn't have to do this with human behavior. They should… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 05:28 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill and ChurchWhat about the "day to day experience of women" are you referencing? Sexism? there is no such thing in daily life anymore. Misogyny? It's illegal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 05:11 PM |
| 1 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?Entitlement is EXTREMELY unattractive in women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 05:07 PM |
| 2 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?Then the MRP marriages are mostly doomed. These are men who are married to women who clearly and plainly settled for them; women who were never all that into their husbands to begin with. These were marriages that were doomed from the start, if you're to be believed. They should divorce, and everyone be put out of their collective miseries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 05:03 PM |
| 1 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?Does he desire her more than other women? If he's married to her, yes. What do you mean by "respect"? He submits to her and defers to her? Or do you mean he is polite to her and considers her thoughts, feelings, desires and needs? What do you mean by "conform to her wishes"? Supplicate? Pedestalize? Give her everything she wants? Or do you mean "do things she wants to do in the bedroom (usually cunnilingus)"? What do you mean by "look at her with admiration"? You mean he wants to fuck her, gets … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 04:33 PM |
| 2 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?That's irrelevant. Your own, personal, singular experience of gradients of male sexual desire is irrelevant. What is relevant is that if he finds her attractive, he desires her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 04:26 PM |
| 5 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?Men will fuck women they find sufficiently attractive Stop right there. That's desire. That's sexual desire. You clearly don't understand the experience of men, particularly how men experience sexual arousal or sexual desire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 04:24 PM |
| 5 | The Red Pill and ChurchAre you serious? Women can't vote? They can't drive? They can't leave a man for any reason they want? They can't get no fault divorces? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 04:23 PM |
| 1 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?I'm not missing the point at all. If he's horny it's because she made him that way. If she didn't make him horny, he would never have married her. Again: Men do not fuck women they don't want to fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 04:21 PM |
| 2 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?You can't fuck her right in the first place if she's not all that sexually attracted to you to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?If she isn't attracted to her husband, she should divorce him and put them both out of their respective miseries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 04:18 PM |
| 2 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?Does a woman married for 10 years really believe her husband doesn't want to have sex with her, even when he does have sex with her? Men do not have sex with women they don't want to have sex with. Period, end of. They just don't. If they don't want to fuck a particular woman, they don't fuck her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?I think this happens (women sexing one guy in her 20s, marrying him then "life happens"). But that happens much less often than you believe it does. most of the time it's AFBC. Fuck hot guys in your 20s, crash and burn at trying to get one of them to marry her, settle for beta cuck you're "meh" about, sex life falls apart after the initial feelz wear off in 3 to 5. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 04:03 PM |
| 5 | The Red Pill and ChurchSHitpost. Reported. I don't believe for one minute there are any Christian churches, individually or denominationally, that even know what men's rights activism even IS, or even know that MRAs are a thing. I don't believe for one minute a Blue is sincere in saying "I'm a woman and therefore I can't question what the men are doing in leading the church." There are very very few churches in which men have a significant say in anything that goes on, much less "run" the place. I don't believe any yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 03:56 PM |
| 5 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?Mostly, for today's women, marriage is a box for them to check off. "Marriage? OK, did that. Can cross this off bucket list. On to the next item!" The means to an end is often validation. Marriage is a huge, huge status boost for women, even now. It says to the world "This man thought enough of me, had a high enough opinion of me, to ask me to marry him. This man declared to the world that I am a Woman Who Has Value And Worth. And that means I am a Woman Who Has Value And Worth." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 03:23 PM |
| 3 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?And men settle on sexual experience more often; i.e. men settle for sluts. Men settle for alpha widows; for women who have had sex with more attractive men than they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 03:20 PM |
| – | New Mods Nomination Threadyeah, couple times... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 02:38 PM |
| – | New Mods Nomination ThreadThanks, but I think I've been banned too many times to be considered as a mod here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 02:28 PM |
| 2 | Is there a sub alternative to theredpill that embraces masculinity without the misogyny and and terrible advice pretending to be someone you're not?Male 7s NEVER fuck HB 9s/10s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 02:08 PM |
| 7 | Is there a sub alternative to theredpill that embraces masculinity without the misogyny and and terrible advice pretending to be someone you're not?TRP works for men who didn't "get it", got very poor relationship/sexual advice growing up, and who were constantly redirected away from what was actually happening. Not everyone needs TRP; and TRP has never said otherwise. Look -- if you're a Blue Pill who just got really really lucky, and your relationships work, then you don't need TRP. If you had good advice growing up and you learned appropriate ways to deal with adversity and failure, you learned how to get back up, you came up pretty well… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 02:08 PM |
| 5 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?Did you read his post? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 01:53 PM |
| 0 | Why I'm not a red pill womanwhat do you think about how her relationships works so well even though it's blue pill? Outlier. There are exceptions to every rule. OP is the exception that proves the rule. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 01:46 PM |
| 9 | StoicismYou act as if you've never heard this before. Women are not attracted to men who show negative emotions like anger, rage, fear, despair, depression, anxiety, or neurosis. Women recoil from it; it repels women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 01:15 PM |
| 6 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?The main reason why married women eventually get repulsed by their husband's touch is because their initial repulsion never really went away. She suppressed that repulsion so she could get him to marry her. After the marriage, she can't conceal or suppress it any longer. It comes out eventually. This is because most women are marrying men they aren't really all that sexually attracted to; because it's very easy to end those marriages, and because everything in society -- law, culture, religion, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 01:05 PM |
| 8 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?That's only one reason why marriages struggle. And only a few marriage struggle for that reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 01:02 PM |
| 8 | Why / Do Married Women Eventually Become Repulsed By Their Husbands Touch?Number 1 is really the big one here. Most women are marrying men they are less sexually attracted to than the Chads they used to fuck as younger women. Most women today are marrying men they would never, ever have considered for marriage without having been forced into it by time and circumstance. Most women are marrying these men because they could not get commitment from more attractive men. Marrying men they're not very attracted to isn't new. There have never been enough hot attractive men t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 01:01 PM |
| 2 | Men & boys hunting schoolgirls for child pornography site. Do you think that's acceptable?It is criminal, and for you and other guys to just shrug it off Women's domestic violence against men is criminal too; but your homies shrug that off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 11:40 PM |
| 3 | Is there a such thing as a "mom's basement virgin" girl?No, they were corrected as best as they could be, given technology of the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 10:42 PM |
| 3 | Just be yourself?No; the way it see it is the way it is. Last word. This is getting tedious and we're just going in circles; we're never going to agree so let's leave it here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 10:17 PM |
| 2 | Is there a such thing as a "mom's basement virgin" girl?Sure they exist. --Case Study #1. Grew up in religious, rules-obsessed house with weak father and narcissistic/histrionic mom. morbidly obese. Developed definite eating disorder in college. No boyfriends, no sexual experience growing up. Nerdy interests including marching band, cats, sci fi, and art. Repressed lesbian; finally came out at age 39; left the US and now lives in Europe in a lesbian relationship. Case Study #2. Girl born with severe physical birth defects, not completely surgically c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 10:15 PM |
| 3 | Is there a such thing as a "mom's basement virgin" girl?Bottom line is that for these mommy's basement virgin girls, the parents just do not have it in them to put a deadline on their daughter's mooching and freeloading. They won't "intervene" in her mental issues or problems, or her relational failures. They don't have the heart to say "woman up, fix your shit and start doing for yourself" because society would view them as cruel, heartless, mean spirited asshole parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 10:04 PM |
| 2 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?What does this So you think a guy would stay with a chick that's hot, but then later becomes a total bitch? have to do with this Men don't work that way. Men don't switch out one set of traits for another, at least not so much in the "babies" context. ? This scenario you mentioned happens all the time. Ever hear of r/marriedredpill? Usually happens when the man has a lot of time/money/resources invested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 09:56 PM |
| 6 | Just be yourself?It's not the way I see it; it's the way it IS. Just is so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 09:35 PM |
| 4 | Discussion: Feminists Claim Women Judged More Harshly Than Men For Same Crimes; Have Data to Back it Up. Is There Anything to This?spousal rape Where was rape mentioned? I thought this had to do with murder, not rape/sexual assault. 83 cases is not a lot This involved 72 cases - 67 men and 5 women. Right? Do you have any theories on why women are so many more times less likely to murder their husbands than the other way around? This might be the case, but this study doesn't say that women are much less likely to murder husbands than husbands are to murder wives. Totally serious here - There's no question that men are much m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 09:33 PM |
| 6 | Just be yourself?No, I'm correct and you're incorrect. it's not about a narrative; it's about the dynamics and what's actually going on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 09:27 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Feminists Claim Women Judged More Harshly Than Men For Same Crimes; Have Data to Back it Up. Is There Anything to This?Wow. ONE cherry picked "study" from Australia; and we're to believe this completely and totally negates the pussy pass. We're not told any of the circumstances of the murders the perps committed. We're not told whether any were 1st degree (premeditation and deliberation) or 2d degree (crimes of passion) or even whether there are any differentiations there in Aussie law. The sample size includes only 5 women; with the rest (67) being men. We're not told whether trials were involved or pleas made.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 09:22 PM |
| 2 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?if babies changed her husband into an irresponsible dick, then that changes her sexual desire. Please. Women have sex with sexually attractive irresponsible dicks all the time. Including married sexually attractive irresponsible dicks. Women MARRY sexually attractive irresponsible dicks all the time. If one guy had ABC characteristics, and a woman loves ABC characteristics, she's going to want to fuck him. If guy changes ABC characteristics for ZYX, and woman still loves ABC characteristics, the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 09:10 PM |
| 3 | Just be yourself?W/e | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 08:59 PM |
| 3 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?I don't get how you can genuinely believe this to be true. Because of this: there was very very little of it there to begin with or it was nonexistent. RE: Babies: If she were sexually attracted to her husband, babies don't change that. Major life event: If she were sexually attracted to her husband, major life events don't change that. These things are ruses, pretexts and coverups for what's REALLY going on: She never really was all that into him to begin with; he was the "safe" beta cuck she c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 08:59 PM |
| 6 | Just be yourself?Really, none of you have ever been told to go out and talk to women, or dress better, or work out? Not until I was about 43 years old. The only advice I ever got was "just be nice, just be yourself, if you're failing it's because you're not nice enough and you're not giving her enough or you're being fake; looks don't matter; it's what's on the inside that counts; share your feelings, be vulnerable, do whatever she wants, give her whatever she wants; do not EVER EVER sexually escalate; you must … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 08:51 PM |
| 3 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?Not really. Yes, really. The majority of deadrooms aren't, "We never really had a sex life," they're "We went from having sex from 5 times a week to 5 times a month/year." As I said before, women have sex with and marry men all the time for reasons other than sexual attraction. A woman can make herself have sex with a man 5 times a week without sexual attraction being present. She can like him, love him, care about him and be married to him, all with a complete or near-complete lack of sexual at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 08:40 PM |
| 1 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?my computer's word processing program puts it in. naïve. all I do is type in the letters in proper sequence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 08:35 PM |
| 3 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?Presumably sexual desire was there, and it was lost at some point.' Huge, huge assumption. You can't in any way shape or form presume that. Women marry men they're not attracted to all the time. Women have sex with men for many many reasons, only one of which is sexual attraction. Therefore the "organics" you're talking about are fine, what's not fine is the circumstances. Assumption. You're presuming the sexual attraction was present to begin with. You can't make that assumption. you're conflat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 08:31 PM |
| 3 | Women categorize men solely on looks, this is what either makes a guy "creepy" or not. Personality comes second.Eh, the attractive man with poor social skills gets the bang, but then is quickly NEXTed, because he can't hide his lack of social skills forever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 08:26 PM |
| 3 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?Your mistake is in presuming that communication, "getting along", the absence of medical abnormalities, and other things "bring" attraction. You can't "learn" how to be attracted to someone; you either are or you aren't. You can't "make" yourself attracted to someone; you either are or you aren't. Attraction is organic and arises because of pheromones, hormones, circumstance and a number of other things. You can't create it where it doesn't organically arise. It's either there or it isn't. Men c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 08:17 PM |
| 2 | Why are black men so successful with women?What Eiffel said. Riffing on his first point, the main reason isn't so much that black men are so much more "alpha"; it's that white men are so much less "alpha", so the differences between perceptions of black men's masculinity and white men's masculinity are much more pronounced. That, and black men are trained from birth to be aggressive, dominant and masculine, and it's accepted. White men are trained from birth to be docile, subordinate and "less" masculine. Aggression, dominance and mascul… | /r/askTRP | 17/08/16 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Ex has a new bf, trying to get into my head, need helpFirst: Understand why she kept coming back to you. She felt bad about hurting you. She wanted to "make it right" not to help you feel better, but to help HER feel better about hurting you. By continuing to stay in contact with her, you gave her the validation and the "approval" she needed to feel better about cheating on you and getting with Chad. Stop doing that. Stop all contact with women who mistreat you. Remove them from your lives totally and ruthlessly. Second: Do what u/nastynickdr said. | /r/askTRP | 17/08/16 07:28 PM |
| 10 | Women categorize men solely on looks, this is what either makes a guy "creepy" or not. Personality comes second.yes they every much are categorizing men by looks. Initially, yes. Personality only comes secondary to after a guy passes the looks test. Yup. he's gotta pass the looks test, at least minimally. Or he has to have other things going for him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 07:20 PM |
| 3 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?They aren't desperate or thirsty for the sex. They do very very much want the good feels and internal/external validation that comes from fucking Chad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 06:58 PM |
| 6 | Just be yourself?Because people are wrong on the internet and they need a shitlord like me to set them straight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 06:50 PM |
| 19 | Women categorize men solely on looks, this is what either makes a guy "creepy" or not. Personality comes second."Solely" is overstating it. If you had said "Women categorize men initially on looks..." then it's more accurate. A 10/10 male can get away with saying lots of outrageous shit, but he can't do that forever with one woman. He will usually go through lots of women in his life because he's attractive enough to do that, he will always have options, and enough women will put up with his bullshit for long enough he can get some sex out of them for a month or so, until he becomes insufferable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 06:42 PM |
| 7 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?Women do these things all the time to have sex with men they're attracted to. Women spend money, risk their health, risk social approbation, and make all sorts of sacrifices to fuck Chad. Or as Rollo says, "If she's attracted to you, she'll crawl over broken glass to have sex with you." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 06:34 PM |
| 5 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?The fact that two people had a sex life then stopped having one doesn't mean sexual desire was there and then disappeared. It also doesn't mean sexual desire was there in the first place. Women have sex with men they're not attracted to all the time. Women have sex with men for a myriad of reasons, only one of which is sexual attraction. Men, on the other hand, have sex with women for one reason, and one reason only -- sheer sexual desire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 06:26 PM |
| 9 | Just be yourself?No. If a girl tells a man JBY it's because she knows he's unattractive, she wants him to just go away and leave her alone, and she wants to tell him something both plausibly accurate and nonoffensive. That way she can feel good about herself because she rejected a guy without hurting his feelings; and she can believe she actually "helped" the guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 06:14 PM |
| 3 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?No, sexual attraction cannot be "learned". It cannot be negotiated for. You can't reason a woman into it. You cannot talk a woman into it. She either feels it or she doesn't. It's either there or it isn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 06:11 PM |
| 7 | Just be yourself?Yes, "JBY" is commonly given advice. No, it is not good advice. Not at all. It's not good advice for boys and men struggling with dating/mating and sex because "yourself" is not attractive. "JBY" means "do not change, you do not need to change, if you change you'll be seen as fake, just stay the way you are and someday someone will love you just for who you are". The problem is that these men aren't attractive. They need to be told step by steps on what they need to do to make themselves more at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 06:03 PM |
| 1 | If feminism is good for men, why are so many men against it?Because feminism took an OK idea (bring women's "rights" up to par with men's) and took it way, way, WAY too far. It's to the point now where men are being actively hamstrung and sandbagged, deliberately injured and held back, so that women can "advance". It's no longer women on a par with men. It's women winning at the expense of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 03:43 PM |
| 2 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?Nope. If I gotta follow the rules, everyone else does too. EDIT Thanks mods | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 03:32 PM |
| 2 | DAE feel that there has recently been too much focus on feminist issues in PPD?mmmmpf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 03:26 PM |
| 2 | DAE feel that there has recently been too much focus on feminist issues in PPD?You don't have to post/comment here then | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 03:25 PM |
| 3 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?No... a "top level comment" is the first comment in a thread. Not the most popular/upvoted comment in a post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?Sorry... I don't understand the reference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 03:24 PM |
| 2 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?I see... so the rules don't apply to you? Top level comments are supposed to be BP men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 03:16 PM |
| 3 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?The point is this was a question for BP men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 03:13 PM |
| 2 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?It's all kinds of women. All kinds of women like fun sex with guys whose lives are falling apart, don't have good jobs, can't make rent, but have lots and lots of fun and know how to get good weed. For example: Guys who work odd jobs while their "main gig" is being in some shitty garage band and they hope to "make it big" someday. Girls absolutely LOVE fucking guys like that. Those guys pull ass all the time. And it's all kinds of girls -- sluts, white trash, black girls with office jobs, "nice … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 03:10 PM |
| 3 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?You're not a BP man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 03:08 PM |
| 2 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?Hope you're getting some attention for it. Good luck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 03:05 PM |
| 6 | DAE feel that there has recently been too much focus on feminist issues in PPD?PPD exists to discuss the red pill and red pill issues. That's why it's called Purple Pill Debate. This sub started as a place for Non-RPers to question Red Pill and RP theory without going to r/theredpill or other Red Pill affiliated sites and without getting downvoted into oblivion. There is no discussion of "Blue Pill" theory, because "Blue Pill" theory is anything "not Red Pill". "Blue Pill" is the overarching hegemonic feminist Feminine Imperative we live in, are all saturated in, and swim … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 02:59 PM |
| 4 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?Why? EDIT: Never mind. I've skimmed your post history. I have a pretty good idea why you would be OK with your wife not having sex with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 02:33 PM |
| 6 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?So.... you'd be A-OK with your wife just not having sex with you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 02:29 PM |
| 2 | Q4BPMen: What would you do if your wife or SO stopped having sex with you?I'm scared of sex in the first place, Maybe this is what needs to be fixed. Just a thought. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 02:27 PM |
| 2 | Q4all men who were raised by single mothers , how did it affect your dating life and other aspects of your dating life and your career life ?Women are given opportunities to learn those skills and choose not to. Women are given opportunities to work in those fields, and only a few choose to. most women work in extreme comfort, in climate controlled offices where the most physically strenuous things they do are move boxes of papers. The most mentally strenuous things they do are deal with demanding bosses and time deadlines. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 01:32 PM |
| 2 | Q4all men who were raised by single mothers , how did it affect your dating life and other aspects of your dating life and your career life ?Yeah, it was a man's job to do the preparation and make sure there were provisions for himself. If there was food to be gathered or killed, he did it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 01:29 PM |
| 1 | Q4all men who were raised by single mothers , how did it affect your dating life and other aspects of your dating life and your career life ?What, you don't believe in going fishing or hunting to get away from society and enjoy nature? You don't have any solitary pursuits or pursuits with other men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 01:26 PM |
| 2 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?Yes, a woman's husband should be a higher priority than her children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 01:18 PM |
| 1 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?No there isn't, and it's not my job to do research for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 01:16 PM |
| 3 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?Nah. No one labels him an asshole. Yes they do, and yes they do. You're wrong about this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 01:15 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Why not just cut men out of the family entirely?Ok, but "outlier" isn't a demeaning term. It's a reference to exceptions, to people or situations that don't fit within a rule. But if you're determined to be offended by nonoffensive statements, that's your prerogative, I suppose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 01:08 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Why not just cut men out of the family entirely?I didn't say it was. There are always a few outliers here and there | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 04:30 AM |
| 1 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?You won't believe me no matter what I say. There is no amount of evidence that would ever satisfy you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/16 04:29 AM |
| 1 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?Most women divorce today because they're unhaaaaaaappy -- they just don't want to be married to their schlubby betas anymore (after he bought her 5 cars, two houses and paid for her two kids which he might or might not have sired). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 10:53 PM |
| 1 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?It's happening slowly. What's really happening is that age at first marriage is creeping upwards. Marriage has failed as an institution. It's already dead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 10:50 PM |
| 1 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?Are you saying your mom and dad divorced later in their marriage but soon after you were born? If so, outlier. Your dad being a good man is an exception which doesn't disprove the rule that IN GENERAL, single moms choose shitty men. Yes, a mother should and MUST prioritize the husband over the kids. She is a wife FIRST, a mother SECOND. She was and should have been a wife and established her marriage first, and then had her kids See par. 2 OK, whatever | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 10:43 PM |
| 1 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?You aren't taking consistent positions. You blame society for women's problems; but blame men for their own problems. Deal with THAT. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 03:43 PM |
| 1 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?Right back atcha. You're cool with helping women when they fuck up their lives. You're cool with saying "IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT" to women who let shitbags knock them up. You blame "society" for shitbags knocking up stupid women; when the problem could and would be fixed if WOMEN WOULD JUST STOP LETTING SHITBAGS KNOCK THEM UP. Yet you're just fine with letting unattractive men twist in the wind. Your concern for "social welfare" is also fully exposed for the bullshit copout it is, as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 03:41 PM |
| 1 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?No it's not. You don't have a "civil right" that rises to the level of constitutional protections to escape a shitty marriage THAT YOU CHOSE. That's not a fundamental right nor a civil right. YOU CHOSE your marriage partner. You don't choose your race, sex, or other (mostly) immutable characteristics. You choose who you fuck, you choose who you marry. If you fuck it up, it's on YOU. It's not on government to fix it for you. Again: it's fascinating to see the side-switching going on. When it's un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 03:38 PM |
| 1 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?Again, bullshit copout. Answer the question: is a 50% divorce rate and incompetent women creating beta omega pussyboys who can't lead their way out of wet paper bags "Progress" to you? Is rampant poverty "progress" to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 03:30 PM |
| 1 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?That's a bullshit copout. You don't get to cop out by saying "you first". Divorce is one of the prime reasons we even have TRP -- because so many men are being raised by women who are barely competent to care for themselves and are hopelessly inept at making men out of boys. Is that "progress" to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 03:27 PM |
| 1 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?50% divorce rates and the poverty and dysfunction they cause are NOT freedom or "progress". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 03:21 PM |
| 1 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?The fact that something promotes "freedom" (i.e. license even for people who are stupid and shouldn't have such license) doesn't mean it's "progressive". 50% divorce rate. Rising poverty. Yeah. Real "progressive". That's such "progress". Lulz. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 03:16 PM |
| 1 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?Doesn't matter whether RP makes these men or not. Irrelevant. We will always have shitbags with us, even if RP disappears tomorrow. The relevant point is that women let shitbags knock them up, then blame everyone else for it. You and your BP friends give women a pass for being so naïve as to let shitbags knock them up; but call naïve boys autists and retards for not understanding "social dynamics" and for failing to "figure it all out" all on their own, with no help, training or instruction; and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 03:00 PM |
| 1 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?The "majority of America" used to sanction slavery of blacks too. Majority rule doesn't necessarily mean something is "right" or "good policy" or "workable" either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 02:36 PM |
| 2 | What advice would TRP/TBP give to someone going through a dry spell?What topics are presented for debate/discussion in this post? If this is satire, it's pretty shitty.... Getting laid once 3 months ago and once again last weekend is not "incel" and it's not much of a dry spell. And, if it's satire, it's not appropriate for this sub. Take it to r/thebluepill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 01:53 PM |
| 1 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?Another reason for disdain (not hate) of single moms is their virtue signaling. The message from single moms and their useful idiots is I am woman, hear me roar. I am so strong and independent for letting a shitbag knock me up and pushing out his kid. And I raise that kid on my own (with welfare and Medicaid and food stamps). I dress him, feed him, educate him, take care of him AND work a job AND get him to Cub Scouts AND take him to the nurse practitioner AND go to church. "I am a good person. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 01:44 PM |
| 10 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?Or even if a man says "I don't want to date single moms because I don't want kids" or "I want kids of my own, I don't want relationships with kids who are not mine". single moms claim literal ENTITLEMENT to relationships with men of their choosing. They claim they are "noble" and "self-sacrificing" and "good people" and "spunky" for letting a shitbag knock them up and pushing out the shitbag's kid. Then they claim entitlement to the money, time and resources of a man other than the kid's father.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 01:33 PM |
| 0 | Q4all men who were raised by single mothers , how did it affect your dating life and other aspects of your dating life and your career life ?Yes. it will happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 01:30 PM |
| 5 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?Mostly churches and religious organizations. There are also all sorts of articles at liberal publications and feminist outlets demonizing men for refusing to date and marry single moms, for disqualifying single moms for marriage. EDIT: It's a really interesting partnership: Extreme conservatives and extreme liberals are in bed together on this issue -- men should be REQUIRED to date and marry single moms, so they can be "fathers" to their bastards (i.e. so she can have access to beta bucks). END… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 01:13 PM |
| 1 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?Then you haven't been paying attention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 01:11 PM |
| 2 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 01:10 PM |
| 3 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?It's not "hatred for single mothers". It's pointing out character and judgment deficiencies in these women that makes them poor relationship and marriage partners for men. NOTE: This does NOT include widows. 1) Single moms have poor future time orientation and are governed by emotional decisionmaking. They make decisions based on how they feel in the moment and without thinking things through. They are emotionally and mentally immature, poorly prepared, and simply not ready for adult relationshi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 01:08 PM |
| 6 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?It's interesting to me that the same people screaming "you autistic dumb shit men should have figured out how attraction works when you're age 12" are the same people leaping to the defense of women who decide to let shitbags knock them up, saying "oh poor baby women, it's NOT YOUR FAULT!!" Bullshit. It IS their fault. They shouldn't have picked shitbags. They should have known better. They should have been better judges of character. They should have picked better men to get them pregnant. Wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 01:03 PM |
| 5 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?you're blaming a woman for her shitbag of a partner walking out on all of his childrearing responsibilities. I blame a woman for picking a shitbag in the first place. She picked a shitbag to impregnate her. She shouldn't have picked the shitbag. She should have known better. She should have been a better judge of character. She decided to fuck the shitbag and let him knock her up because tingles, because hot, because fun. It's on HER. I also note that the same people who scream about unattractiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 01:00 PM |
| 2 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?Very good answer. I second this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 12:56 PM |
| 1 | What's with the hatred for single mothers?Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 12:50 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Why not just cut men out of the family entirely?Then why did you say two comments ago that my "view is dead wrong"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 12:49 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Why not just cut men out of the family entirely?I know a lot of single moms too and my view is correct. Some of them aren't bad people but most are. They are stuck in poverty and dependence and addiction. It's a terrible place to be. You're wrong about this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/16 03:18 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: How can women think of themselves and like to be thought of, as capable and empowered and 'strong' and all that, yet they cannot approach a man romantically?Who cares whether hypergamy or solipsism have "properly understood" meanings in this particular context? The terms have particular meanings in this context that are useful for men to understand female nature. What's going on here is that you just don't like men understanding women and figuring this shit out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: What are some things you think TRP gets wrong or exaggerates?Heh. I thought "size doesn't matter" and "it's not the size of the wave, it's the motion of the ocean" and other happy horseshit like that. And if this is the case, then why does the chubster guy struggle to get laid? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: How can women think of themselves and like to be thought of, as capable and empowered and 'strong' and all that, yet they cannot approach a man romantically?"Hypergamy" is a TRP term of art. No one around here discusses "Hypergamy" in the context you're mentioning. Yes, you've accurately recited the term's origin; but that's not how it is used here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: What are some things you think TRP gets wrong or exaggerates?No he won't, because average skinny fat hung dude lacks the social skills and clout of the gym rat with the six pack and the Napoleon dick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 09:39 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: do you think RP men are being disingenuous when they say they find the vast majority of young women attractive?Yes they do. It's just that shy girls repel men, though they don't mean to. And shy girls make it very hard for men to get to know them. even if they like the men approaching them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 09:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: do you think RP men are being disingenuous when they say they find the vast majority of young women attractive?If she's shy, there's a huge danger of looking like a predator in her eyes ... she'll accuse us of rape or attempted rape if we look at her funny or "come on too strong". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: do you think RP men are being disingenuous when they say they find the vast majority of young women attractive?What? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 09:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Finding your Niche Doesn’t Mean Worse Odds; It Means You're Focused, and That's an Important First Step.Hey... it's not MY niche. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: What are some things you think TRP gets wrong or exaggerates?How's the average looking doofus with the 9 inch cock going to get chicks to have sex with him if he's a chubster doofus? Chicks see the outer shell first. And chicks would rather have shitty sex with a good looking musclebound asshole with a small or average cock than have awesome sex with a chubby vagina technician with the magic tongue and the big dick. The goodlooking dude with muscles is the status builder that bumps her ego up. The chubster with the big dick? Where's the ego boost/validati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 08:54 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: What are some things you think TRP gets wrong or exaggerates?Yes, but one of the things we often overlook is that the women doing this really do like the men they married, hell, most even love them as friends. The men these sluts choose are good men. They are hardworking, mostly honest, decent guys, who aren't terrible looking. And these girls truly do like these men. They get along well, they like many of the same activities, have more or less the same outlook on life. These women even kind of love these men. They care about these men, look after them, w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 08:46 PM |
| 2 | [Serious] Is the RedPill unhealthy?Yup. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 08:35 PM |
| 2 | [Serious] Is the RedPill unhealthy?The only other alternative is that she was a slut and has decided to "reform", and wants to "do it right this time" and "is tired of the games and the players". That's even worse because she's being much more overt about the fact that the guy is NEVER going to get the fun exciting sex she reserved for the hot assholes and the players she used to fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 08:30 PM |
| 2 | [Serious] Is the RedPill unhealthy?Maybe men are in a better position to think up metaphors and analogies that men can understand. "Treat all guns as loaded" and "treat women as loaded guns" means "all women have the propensity to be "like that" if not properly handled". I get it just fine. Women take offense to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 08:20 PM |
| 2 | [Serious] Is the RedPill unhealthy?We've had numerous threads where they've expressed beliefs that making men wait is dishonest (if they've ever not made men wait in the past) and ineffective. There's no problem with a girl making a man wait if that has ALWAYS been her approach to sex. It's when the "lane changing" happens that "making him wait" becomes a problem. If you were with 5 guys before and they all waited; no problem. If you were with 5 guys before and they got sex on date 1 or 2 and you're making me wait until date 6...… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 08:05 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: What are some things you think TRP gets wrong or exaggerates?Yep. "That attractive hot guy's an asshole. Girls don't really LIKE guys like that. Guys like that are just "eye candy". We know they're hot, but we don't really like guys like that. "We really like nice guys -- guys who are nice to us, guys who take us out and show us a good time, guys who open up to us, guys who aren't afraid to be gentle and show us their feeeeeelings, guys who like cats, etc. etc." Um, but you slept with that asshole. And so did 4 of your friends. "Yeah, but that was a mista… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Promiscuity and Infidelityrationalize it away. "He broke his marital promises to me, so what I'm doing isn't really cheating". "He isn't sleeping with me; so I'm not really cheating." "I have to initiate sex with him, so I'm not really cheating." "He doesn't want sex with me, so I'm not really cheating." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Promiscuity and InfidelityStatistics say men cheat more. Just look at the male/female ratio on sites like Ashley Madison. Statistics say men cheat slightly more, sometimes within the MoE of the results. Your cite to AM isn't statistics at all. And the actual "statistics" are based purely on self reporting. There is no way to assess cheating rates other than getting people to admit it, and most people won't - even anonymously. I think William F0ster is correct about this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 07:49 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Finding your Niche Doesn’t Mean Worse Odds; It Means You're Focused, and That's an Important First Step.Or... maybe the "go for center mass" is an analogy for "if you want to attract women, then find out what most women are attracted to and work on being/doing that." Most women are attracted to masculine, confident men who know who they are, know how to do some things pretty well, and who have their shit together. Only a few women are attracted to unmasculine girly men. Only a few women are attracted to men who are underconfident, underemployed, and need someone to take care of them. Only a few wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 06:05 PM |
| 1 | [Serious] Is the RedPill unhealthy?Yeah, it does. And that's OK. Women should be on the look out at all times for potential rapists. They should presume ANY man they don't know is violent and a possible rapist. Just as TRP advocates that ALL women are Like That (hypergamous, will cheat in the right circumstances, are prone to emotional decisionmaking and drama, have a base female nature, etc.). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: What are some things you think TRP gets wrong or exaggerates?Pretty much every kid should have this spelled out for them. Part of it with me was naivete; a huge part of it was being given misinformation and gaslighting - being told that I wasn't really seeing what I was seeing (girls dating and fucking musclehead jocks and dickhead badboys). I was told "nope you're not really seeing that". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 05:17 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Finding your Niche Doesn’t Mean Worse Odds; It Means You're Focused, and That's an Important First Step.LOL | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 04:12 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: What are some things you think TRP gets wrong or exaggerates?And obviously you shouldn't tell your kids that everyone's lying to them. I don't think adults are intentionally misleading anyone, even when they give 'bad' advice. You JUST SAID two comments ago that kids should presume adults are lying to them about attraction. Um... OK. I guess kids should just be left to figure this out for themselves. That's not the best advice, particularly when you have some who take what everyone's telling them at face value -- even when it's not good advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 03:53 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Why not just cut men out of the family entirely?No, a FEW single moms overcome the odds. You're focusing on the media darlings held up as examples of how "welfare works" and "you CAN beat the odds" rah-rah cheerleading. Most of them remain mired in poverty, welfare dependence, dysfunction etc and continue to be a drain and dead weight on society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 03:48 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: What are some things you think TRP gets wrong or exaggerates?Yes. This exactly. I took what people said at face value. I took them at their word. I trusted my own parents to be honest with me and at least not intentionally lie to me. I didn't need someone to make me feel better, I needed someone to be blunt and honest. Same here. Didn't get that kind of honest and blunt training when it came to attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 03:31 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Finding your Niche Doesn’t Mean Worse Odds; It Means You're Focused, and That's an Important First Step.Yeah, it IS what you argued -- Just take what you are and "find a niche" where "whatever you are" is "sexually attractive". I disagree with you and told you why. every single thing about how to attract someone says "Look your best" and "Actually talk to women", This has nothing to do with anything you posted, and it's not what's told to a lot of men either. Your claim that men are supposed to "just figure this out" with no instruction, training or help is silly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 03:24 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: What are some things you think TRP gets wrong or exaggerates?Sure. But I didn't presume my own parents and all the adults around me were intentionally misleading me about how attraction works. I didn't presume the adults around me were evil, or even incompetent. Not very observant, maybe. You're telling me that preteens and teens should presume and assume ineptitude and evil intent in the adults around them when it comes to learning about attraction. That's a prescription for even more dysfunction.s EDIT: No they're just being sensible. Great. I'll be sur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 03:18 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Finding your Niche Doesn’t Mean Worse Odds; It Means You're Focused, and That's an Important First Step.I don't WANT you to argue "Hey! You can look like a slob! You can fail to talk to women! Someone will love you!" It IS what you argued, in so many words. I simply responded to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 03:15 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: What are some things you think TRP gets wrong or exaggerates?Yes it becomes apparent that athletes and badboys get girls and the nerds don't; then the nerds ask about it, and they get the song and dance from their own parents and from adults they trust. Are they supposed to presume their own parents and the adults around them are lying to them? Are 12 year old kids supposed to presume sinister intent in the adults around them by presuming they're being lied to? Yes or no. They also get the song and dance from girls their age. Are they supposed to presume … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 03:11 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Finding your Niche Doesn’t Mean Worse Odds; It Means You're Focused, and That's an Important First Step.OK. I responded directly, without stereotypes or strawmen. Your inability or unwillingness to respond directly to a soundly constructed response isn't my problem. So you don't really want your view challenged; you simply want to use this place as your personal blog to say what you want to say? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 02:41 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: What are some things you think TRP gets wrong or exaggerates?People who are 12 YEARS OLD don't understand that people "sugarcoat the realities of like to make themselves or other people feel better". Pre-teens are still learning about the world around them, about social nuance and interaction, etc. They have to learn it through trial and error, and it's not like they have it downpat by the time they're not even fucking 13 years old. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 02:40 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP: What are some things you think TRP gets wrong or exaggerates?to lift, have an attractive body, dress well, be socially fluent? sure those things can be vaguely stated in most MSM outlets and at the bottom of the list of their "advice", but those things aren't exactly emphasized as much as they probably should be Yeah. Very true. Blues keep saying they tell men to improve physically and that physical self improvement is all over the place in mainstream media and to boys growing up. But it's not emphasized, and they are not told that girls want men with goo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 02:39 PM |
| 4 | Q4RP: What are some things you think TRP gets wrong or exaggerates?Women are not disgusted by sexually and physically attractive men showing some vulnerability. FIFY. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 02:34 PM |
| 2 | Q4RP: What are some things you think TRP gets wrong or exaggerates?It's not that stoicism is not attractive. It's that stoicism works to avoid unattractiveness. Stoicism keeps an average man who's learning about himself, the world and women from being unattractive. Stoicism keeps him from baring his soul to people who don't care or who will hurt him for doing so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: What are some things you think TRP gets wrong or exaggerates?The Wall. The idea that The Wall is this hard stop in a woman's life where she wakes up one day and is a dessicated shriveled hag at age 30. It's not - it's more like a trampoline or tissue paper. The other part of the Wall that TRP gets wrong is that once a woman passes The Wall she can't get sex or relationships. This is wrong too - average women are still getting married well into their 30s. This is more a function of men's thirst rather than women's unattractiveness or undesirability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 02:31 PM |
| 3 | [Serious] Is the RedPill unhealthy?No, your similes and metaphors don't work. All women are "guns", ie loaded guns. Women can't be guns, and first aid kits, and squirt guns, and books, and cars. For your metaphor to work, men would need to be attracted to women, horses, aglets, bookends, and wristwatches. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 02:22 PM |
| 1 | The idea that all men can be alphas: Too much optimism?All men can become more attractive, but I don't think it would make all that much difference in the long run. Even if all men became "alphas", ie sexually attractive to women, women would still find and gravitate to the most attractive of the sexually attractive men Women are extremely adept at finding weaknesses in men. Women would suss out each attractive man's weaknesses, catalog and quantify them mentally, and go for the most attractive one, two or three men around them, i.e. the three or so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 02:18 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Finding your Niche Doesn’t Mean Worse Odds; It Means You're Focused, and That's an Important First Step.I can't tell how the body of your post relates much to the title. Only about half the text relates to the title. Men who WERE in niches -- LARP, RPG, STEM, etc. aren't conventionally attractive at all, and they aren't attractive even to the women they were trying to market themselves to. They don't understand anything at all about how attraction works. These men need to understand how sexual attraction works in the first place. These men need to become more sexually attractive through physical f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 02:14 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: do you think RP men are being disingenuous when they say they find the vast majority of young women attractive?I always believed men were the hypergamous ones especially when with regard to physical attractiveness/chemistry. Men are not hypergamous. Men optimize, but will take women who are less attractive than they are. Only women are hypergamous, because of their need for "the best" ONE and their need for men who are more attractive than they are. "Hypergamous" means "am attracted only to those who are more attractive than me". Only women fit this bill. Men do not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Promiscuity and InfidelityI don't agree that the ability to keep multiple sexual partners simultaneously is the only cheating tell. Women who have had a lot of ONS have no problem cheating. Women who have a lot of ONSs under their belts have cavalier attitudes about sex. They use men, they are accustomed to being used by men. They believe the sole "use" of sex is for personal enjoyment, recreation and "blowing off steam". That attitude is prevalent in women who have had a lot of ONSs, and leads to cheating in my experien… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/16 01:47 PM |
| 0 | Who will TRP vote for?Who cares? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 04:30 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. Just lazy people who like to complain.No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 04:27 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. Just lazy people who like to complain.I didn't "pretend". I asked. I gave up "make believe" when I was about 8. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 04:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. Just lazy people who like to complain.WTF are you even talking about? I'm not "pretending" anything. I'm bowing out of this conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 04:15 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: Would you marry an ex porn star?This. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 04:14 PM |
| 9 | Q4Men: Would you marry an ex porn star?This. EDIT: The issue is her internal decisionmaking process, her attitude and viewpoint toward sex, that leads her to porn. The attitude is one of sexuality being a business, a transaction, a quid pro quo, a means to an end. She uses herself to get what she wants. She uses men to get what she wants. She is OK with men, lots of men, using her. For her, sex isn't about relationship. It's about everything BUT relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 04:14 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. Just lazy people who like to complain.Where is this "looking for excuses" shit coming from? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 04:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. Just lazy people who like to complain.Who's blaming others for their problems? Do you think TRP's official policy is blaming others for their problems? TRP's pretty clear on getting the men who come to it to take responsibility, but only to take responsibility for what is in their control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 04:08 PM |
| 2 | CMV: There is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. Just lazy people who like to complain.Why wouldn't an impressionable boy believe what women are telling him, when he's being told that women never ever lie? Why wouldn't be believe them when he's being told always to take everything a girl or woman says at face value? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 04:06 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. Just lazy people who like to complain.If you're not a "self improvement" sub, then you shouldn't say you stress self improvement in your foundational statements. It's nothing more than a reference to your own sub's wiki. LOL | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 03:49 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. Just lazy people who like to complain.From the RPWi wiki: "Our focus is on long-term goals that bring long-term happiness. We stress self improvement, self awareness, and self discipline." Bullshit. RPWi IS a "self improvement" sub. It's one of the things you stress over there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What do you think about the narrative that you will be loved for your ínner beauty?What? Women say all the time "Im so afraid... men are all around me, looking at me, propositioning me for sex, wanting to rape me ALL THE TIME every time I go out the door". Seriously. They say it here; they said it in college and grad school; they said it in the cities I lived in; they said it all the time. Of course women don't say things like this to men out in the Australian outback. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 03:26 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. Just lazy people who like to complain.Yeah, ok. Like I said... you see one thing and are told something else entirely. Guess I should have just told all the adults in my life to go fuck themselves, back when I was 10. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What do you think about the narrative that you will be loved for your ínner beauty?Love, those are things that happened to outlier women who post at PPD. Also, that had to do with countering the notion that women are accosted literally all the time, everywhere - that men are literally waving their cocks in women's faces all the time. That's what women tell us men, it's just not true, and that thread bore it out. Sure, women in urban areas seem to get looked at, and on occasion grabbed. But it's not like men are shoving their dicks at you every time you walk out your door. (Or,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What do you think about the narrative that you will be loved for your ínner beauty?I listen to women all the time. I've heard what they say and.. report it here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 03:13 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. Just lazy people who like to complain.If you already knew these things then you shouldn't need Red Pill Wives. If you're at RPWi, then you have had some issues that have caused you some relationship/sexual difficulties. So I don't believe you are the end all be all of sexual/relational health. But congrats on being a person who was told only simple bromides like "it's what's on the inside that counts". You weren't hammered with this shit day in day out year in year out like most of us guys were. And you aren't in a culture that is o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What do you think about the narrative that you will be loved for your ínner beauty?I know a lot of men. I speak to a lot of men, from all walks of life. I'll remember you said this the next time you or anyone else here at PPD says I can't speak to the experience of women because I'm not one and because I merely talk to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 03:09 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. Just lazy people who like to complain.Yes, they did. Pastors do talk about what's sexually attractive (or what they believe is sexually attractive and what girls like in men) TO BOYS. You don't know what people's lived experiences is. I was there. You weren't. I don't care whether you believe it or not, just like I don't believe women like you couldn't figure out that having good jobs and sarcastic personalities aren't sexually attractive; just like I don't believe women like you can't figure out that being not fat and kind of prett… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 03:00 PM |
| 3 | CMV: There is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. Just lazy people who like to complain.Everyone around us told us that having a job, house, car, loyalty and honor were sexually attractive. Of course they didn't actually use the words "moisten panties". That's shorthand for sexually attractive that TRP uses, not evangelicals and not "mainstream culture". Of course you don't believe us. You don't know anything about the lived experience of men. It really doesn't matter whether you believe it or not. It happened. I was there. You weren't. I lived it. You didn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 02:53 PM |
| 2 | CMV: There is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. Just lazy people who like to complain.It's not that women aren't allowed to complain. It's that we believed what women said - they were assholes and not nice, therefore not attractive, don't want, rejected for sex and relationships, etc. We believed you. Stupid us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 02:41 PM |
| 4 | CMV: There is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. Just lazy people who like to complain.good paying job, could afford a house and a car, and was loyal and honorable I would be ATTRACTIVE to women Yes. We're told those things are SEXUALLY attractive. That those things moisten panties. Women told us those things are sexually attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 02:39 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. Just lazy people who like to complain.Red Pill doesn't work for everyone, and no one says it does. Just because you have a sexual strategy doesn't necessarily mean it will work for everyone, every time. Much depends on the person executing the strategy and the raw materials available to work with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 02:38 PM |
| 4 | CMV: There is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. Just lazy people who like to complain.Yes I realized that. I know the less attractive people were told "looks aren't important" and "the hot people are just slutty/stupid/broken/damaged/mentally ill". But even the average girls didn't want average guys. Even average girls want hot guys. And if they put out, average girls could get hot guys. What are the average guys going to do? Toss money at girls? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 01:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. Just lazy people who like to complain.Why wouldn't you think you'd need to be physically attractive? Because everyone (including women like you) were telling us that you don't need to be physically attractive. Physical looks "weren't all that important", according to what everyone around us was telling us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 01:52 PM |
| 3 | CMV: There is no such thing as involuntary celibacy. Just lazy people who like to complain.Autists and Spergs can learn strategies and responses. It's hard but they can learn about "normal" social interactions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 01:50 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP: What do you think about the narrative that you will be loved for your ínner beauty?how many people are confused about the fact that physical attractiveness is important to sexual attractiveness? Sigh. I have been through this so many times here. Men get confused about it because as boys, everyone INCLUDING WOMEN were telling them that physical attractiveness was NOT that important to sexual attractiveness. You're speaking as a woman who self describes as "hot" and works as a high end prostitute in Australia, and knows nothing about the North American sexual marketplace. You're… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 01:42 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: What do you think about the narrative that you will be loved for your ínner beauty?culture that ties masculinity to success with women Masculinity IS the key to success with women. The problem is that everyone is giving these men the wrong messages about what masculinity is. These men get the message that masculinity is nice, risk averse, not assertive, mealymouthed, nonconfrontational, longsuffering, deferential, and gives women whatever they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 01:35 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: What do you think about the narrative that you will be loved for your ínner beauty?A lot of these red pill guys want to be loved for their personality by someone super hot though. Couple of things: (1) they might want that but know not to expect it. (2) They soon learn not to expect it. You seem to think these men are totally unreasonable, much like the whole "you 'nice guys' think being nice entitles you to sex". They're not being unreasonable when they do what people like you tell them to do, then get pissed off when you make fun of them for doing exactly what you told them … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/16 01:31 PM |
| 3 | What TRP men actually need is love.Yeah. you can quibble over the numbers, sure, but there's a stark difference between the validation sex attractive men get; and the transactional sex less attractive men have no choice but to settle for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/16 02:27 PM |
| 2 | What TRP men actually need is love.Yep. Because.... YOU ARE a pussy and a faggot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/16 02:10 PM |
| 6 | What TRP men actually need is love."wow, I'm really hurting myself, and I don't want to hurt someone I love. I need to start taking better care of myself." This isn't how men self-improve. This isn't the self-talk men do when they're down, they know they're down, and they know they need to do better. The self talk they do and what actually works is "you're down, you know it, and it won't get better unless and until YOU DO SOMETHING. No one else is going to do it. No one else will help you. No one else gives a shit. If it's going … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/16 01:59 PM |
| 2 | Had an argument woth LTR, she (falsely) accuses me of beeting her. What to do?Oh. I see. Kick her out. Tell her she has 3 days to find a new place. If she isn't out by then, call the police and advise them that she is trespassing. File a forcible entry and detainer lawsuit to eject her from the premises. Seek an order of protection from a court, directing her to stay at least 100 yards away from you. It is YOUR place. She's a trespasser. Pack up her shit for her and help her move out. Offer to pay some of her first month's rent. $500 should do it. That's a fucking bargain… | /r/askTRP | 11/08/16 01:46 PM |
| 3 | What TRP men actually need is love.The question is which comes first. If you're a fatass, suck at your job, and have no friends, that's not a good place to "just be yourself". It's a good thing not to have healthy self regard for that, and that's not a "worthwhile" person. First you work on fixing that shit, then you can have a healthy self regard and consider yourself "worthwhile". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/16 01:43 PM |
| 2 | Had an argument woth LTR, she (falsely) accuses me of beeting her. What to do?Next. Break up with her, end things, and never see her again. Any woman who will falsely accuse you of physical abuse and drop dime to Mom is a woman who will drop dime to the police next time. Make sure there will not be a next time. If it's your place, pack up her shit and move her out. If it's her place. pack up your shit and move out TODAY. If it's your joint place, pay up the rent a couple months, see the landlord, tell him you're moving out, ask to be taken off the lease, and move. If he w… | /r/askTRP | 11/08/16 01:41 PM |
| 6 | What TRP men actually need is love.No. "Just be yourself" doesn't inspire change. It keeps men where they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/16 01:33 PM |
| 3 | What TRP men actually need is love.8s and up receive validation sex - sex because they are attractive. They give up nothing except their own validation to women. They don't have to give commitment, time, attention, resources - nothing of value. Men who are below that level receive transactional sex - sex because the men "give up something" to the women in exchange for sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/16 01:32 PM |
| 7 | What TRP men actually need is love.You just have to accept yourself and realise that is all that matters. In other words "just be yourself". "don't change". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/16 01:30 PM |
| -13 | My girlfriend's ex died. She wants to drive halfway across the country to go to his funeral.I'm with u/apexk9 on this. Her driving 16 hours alone isn't the point. Her wanting to go to the funeral of an ex BF is the point. Her greater loyalty to a dead ex than to a living BF is the point. Her divided loyalty is the point. Her attraction to a dead ex is the point. Her being governed by her feelings is the point. Her total disrespect for her BF is the point. Her expecting him to take time off from what he wants to do so she can "pay her tingles respects" to a dead ex is the point. | /r/askTRP | 11/08/16 01:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Exceptions aren't really exceptionsRight back atcha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/16 12:39 PM |
| 3 | CMV: It isn't RP that offends BP - what really offends BP is the existence of the discussion itself.R/thebluepill is that way -------------> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/16 01:25 AM |
| 1 | If TRP is true, do you think a woman's testimony is less trustworthy than a man's?Right. And "more likely true than not true" and "preponderance" are low standards to meet. 50% +1. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 11:06 PM |
| 3 | If TRP is true, do you think a woman's testimony is less trustworthy than a man's?I got it. Why you felt a need to announce it passive-aggressively in a combox is what I was chortling at. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 10:49 PM |
| 1 | If TRP is true, do you think a woman's testimony is less trustworthy than a man's?a single witness' testimony goes pretty far if that's the only available evidence on the particular issue covered by the testimony. If it's sworn and uncontradicted, it doesn't have to be accepted, but it is many times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 10:46 PM |
| 1 | If TRP is true, do you think a woman's testimony is less trustworthy than a man's?juries are always instructed to take into account the bias, interests and prejudices of any witness, as well as ability to observe. My experience is juries know pretty much who is full of shit and who isn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 10:35 PM |
| 2 | If TRP is true, do you think a woman's testimony is less trustworthy than a man's?You did what you needed to do to keep your marriage going. Marriages are all about compromise on both sides without giving up too much. What usually happens is woman takes takes takes and demands that he give give give , and he does all the giving, and resentments build up. You decided to stop taking and do some giving. That's not taking responsibility for the implosion of your marriage. It didn't implode, you kept it from imploding by avoiding exactly what causes so many of the problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 10:32 PM |
| 5 | If TRP is true, do you think a woman's testimony is less trustworthy than a man's?The question was how does a woman know when men are happy. Sex and respect are what makes men happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 10:28 PM |
| 1 | If TRP is true, do you think a woman's testimony is less trustworthy than a man's?LOL OK. I'm so thankful you announced that intention. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 10:25 PM |
| 1 | If TRP is true, do you think a woman's testimony is less trustworthy than a man's?What's the answer? Putting the entire world under video surveillance? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 10:23 PM |
| 1 | If TRP is true, do you think a woman's testimony is less trustworthy than a man's?1) She is having sex with him regularly and whenever he approaches her for sex. 2) She pays him basic respect and deference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 10:22 PM |
| 5 | If TRP is true, do you think a woman's testimony is less trustworthy than a man's?1) those men are correct that she was the problem and she was a bitch. Those men also acknowledge they were part of the problem as well. 2) EVERY man I've ever known who is divorced acknowledged at least SOME responsibility for the end of their marriages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 10:20 PM |
| 2 | If TRP is true, do you think a woman's testimony is less trustworthy than a man's?LOL. Atlas is correct. Check it out: Ask a divorced woman about the circumstances of her breakup. Almost all the time you hear a variation of the following: I tried and tried so hard to save the marriage. I didn't want to end it. But he was so awful/terrible/violent/drunk/irresponsible/ douchey/shitbag/bad father/shiftless layabout/cheat/ etc. I did NOTHING to cause the divorce -- it was all 100% HIS FAULT. I had NO CHOICE but to file for divorce because of his terrible behavior/personality/cond… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 10:18 PM |
| 2 | CMV: It isn't RP that offends BP - what really offends BP is the existence of the discussion itself.The vast majority of women are not marrying men they are sexually unattracted to. Source? Evidence? Factual basis? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 10:14 PM |
| 1 | If TRP is true, do you think a woman's testimony is less trustworthy than a man's?Nailed it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 09:49 PM |
| 2 | If TRP is true, do you think a woman's testimony is less trustworthy than a man's?You want/expect much more accuracy than is required to establish something; much more than is required to satisfy a factfinder in a court of law, for example. That high level of accuracy isn't required, and video isn't always available. Corroboration from other witnesses might be available as are objective measures. But if eyewitness is all you have, you go with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 09:48 PM |
| 3 | CMV: It isn't RP that offends BP - what really offends BP is the existence of the discussion itself.It's true for around the bottom 25 to 30% of men in society. I'll bet that number is growing. I do find it interesting that by omission, you admit that women don't want to fuck these men and that men don't want to employ them. Unattractive men get married all the time. That doesn't mean that the woman really wanted him, that she wants to have sex with him, or that he will get sex. It certainly doesn't mean he'll get the sex he wants. It really just means that she has deigned to marry the man, mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 09:46 PM |
| 2 | If TRP is true, do you think a woman's testimony is less trustworthy than a man's?Interesting. Are you saying that eyewitness testimony -- a human being observing an event and then recounting that event verbally -- is "bad evidence"? What is "better evidence"? I take the OP's question as addressing the ability of men and women to observe an event using their 5 senses, and then give a factually accurate and complete account of said event. Are you saying neither men nor women can do this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 09:29 PM |
| 3 | CMV: It isn't RP that offends BP - what really offends BP is the existence of the discussion itself.There are many many more unattractive men than there are attractive men. In the past before automation, a knowledge economy and in two world wars (as well as war in the Western world every 30 years or so), the casualties were mostly men, i.e. unattractive men. Today, those unattractive men are still alive because not killed by war, accidents, disease, etc. But society has no real use for them. "The world "wants" them to die and go away" is an expression indicating the disposability and societal … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 09:04 PM |
| 2 | CMV: It isn't RP that offends BP - what really offends BP is the existence of the discussion itself.Blues don't like TRP talking about sexual and social dynamics. They disagree vehemently with AFBC, hypergamy, that most men are unattractive, and basic male and female nature. If they weren't afraid of Reds actually having valid points about this stuff, Blues wouldn't combat it so hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 08:47 PM |
| 7 | RP and Mental IllnessYou have no children with this woman? Divorce her now. Too much effort. I see no reason to save this thing. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 10/08/16 08:45 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?You first. Women started this with feminism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 08:43 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?You don't seem to realize that you are complaining about the exact same superficial nonsense that you accuse women of. Then can you at least agree that women's complaints of hurt feelings are "superficial nonsense"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Is depression a mental illness that requires medication?In your case, you have basic structural issues that need fixed and are way, WAY beyond RP's ability to address. I don't know if therapy is a good option. It might be. Depends on what your physician/therapist prescribes. You have intractable depression despite what sounds like decent physical health and a decent support system. You have multiple suicide attempts. There are very deep problems there that you need to get to the bottom of. You cannot do that in comboxes online. It requires medical an… | /r/askTRP | 10/08/16 08:13 PM |
| 1 | Do women life life on "easy mode"?I was being colloquial. Never mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 08:08 PM |
| 1 | Is depression a mental illness that requires medication?You're asking for a medical opinion. See a physician for your depression. You say you lift and take care of yourself. You have attempted suicide multiple times. You need to be under the care of a physician and probably intensive talk therapy. If you have not seen a physician, do it NOW. | /r/askTRP | 10/08/16 08:06 PM |
| 1 | Do women life life on "easy mode"?No. This: I've made many comments about how being attractive has its upsides and about halo effect. As I see it, though, and as my boyfriend and best friend (both gorgeous men) do -- they get all of the advantages that I do with none of the often very dangerous or complicated downsides. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 07:58 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Exceptions aren't really exceptionsYour limited experience isn't "truth". SO I disagree with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 07:37 PM |
| 0 | CMV: It isn't RP that offends BP - what really offends BP is the existence of the discussion itself.Whoosh. You missed the point. Flew right over your head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 07:36 PM |
| 2 | CMV: It isn't RP that offends BP - what really offends BP is the existence of the discussion itself.That doesn't mean they are afraid that your sexist notions are true. It's all antiquated sexist notions that we've all heard before. But Blues are VERY afraid that RP accurately describes sexual and social dynamics like alpha fux beta cucks, women's propensity to "trade up"; the overall unattractiveness of most men; that men focus on female looks because theyre hardwired that way; that women focus on male looks/status/confidence/money because they're hardwired that way; that "nice" in men is NOT… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 07:27 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Exceptions aren't really exceptionsShort fat guys can be useful to a few women. They won't be attractive. Those guys get used as beta cucks. They aren't selected for attractiveness; they're selected for usefulness. I brought all this up because of this silly notion that short fat guys get sex a few times a year is somehow "success" and "good". That's not what most men want. It's not "success" and "good" to be selected because some 32 year old woman wants a beta cuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 07:05 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Exceptions aren't really exceptionsI tried everything Blues told me to do -- be nice, be myself, be friends first, treat her with respect and niceness, give her what she wants, do what she wants. I tried all that. It's a miserable failure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 05:53 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Exceptions aren't really exceptions"start off with a friendship"? Pfffft. Tried that too. Doesn't work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 05:52 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Exceptions aren't really exceptionsNo they aren't true. None of them are true. At all. I know. I used to LIVE them. They don't work. Women don't love men for themselves. Women love men for what men do for them and how those men make them feel at that particular time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 05:49 PM |
| 7 | CMV: It isn't RP that offends BP - what really offends BP is the existence of the discussion itself.Let me lay on you a truth that you will get once I tell you, and you'll be so gobsmacked you'll say "Why didn't I think of that!?" Yes, a few hot guys die in war, famine, disease etc. But only a few. Because there are many, many more unattractive men than there are attractive men. So it was mostly unattractive men who died in the scourges of the past. In fact it's been posited that one of the reasons we even have the Red Pill issues we have today is that there are so many unattractive and otherw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 05:26 PM |
| 8 | CMV: It isn't RP that offends BP - what really offends BP is the existence of the discussion itself.The "world" doesn't care about unattractive men. The "world" wants unattractive men to go away and die. The "world" used to dispose of unattractive men in wars, famines, workplace deaths, accidents, and widespread disease. the ones who survived went to religious orders or became the crazy uncle who lived in the attic/basement and got treated for his shell shock/PTSD at the VA. Blues want unattractive men to "know their place" and stay in the basement, Cheetos-stained and playing World of Warcraf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 03:20 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Exceptions aren't really exceptionsNo. Talented schlubs get laid SOMETIMES. Just like regular schlubs get laid A FEW TIMES. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 03:13 PM |
| 6 | CMV: It isn't RP that offends BP - what really offends BP is the existence of the discussion itself.PPD and BP's predilection for mockery and bullshit in lieu of a proper argument. Blues react so vociferously and viciously to Reds and to the concepts in TRP because it's about sex, sexual strategy, and helping unattractive men get more attractive. Blues' views on these topics are deeply entrenched and closely held. They cannot countenance ANY challenge to them. They are what they are because they are what they are. They are true because they're true. They're true because Mommy said so and becau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 03:12 PM |
| 0 | Do women life life on "easy mode"?I'm telling you what I've seen in the real world. And in the real world, the one I actually see and interact with on a daily basis, attractive women are seen as more competent, more approachable and friendlier -- easier to work with, easier to talk to, easier to interact with, and therefore more professionally successful. Your experience is not the only one out there. As for the studies: ALL jobs require competence ALL Jobs require competence | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 02:43 PM |
| 4 | CMV: It isn't RP that offends BP - what really offends BP is the existence of the discussion itself.Blues object to TRP because Blues, like most liberals and SJWs, cannot believe that ANY reasonable person could possibly disagree with them. Anyone who disagrees with them in even the slightest ways is wrong, immoral, evil, perverted, sick, and must be destroyed. To Blues, it is just gospel and unassailable truth that nice guys, nice, unassuming, kind men, have by far the most sexual and relational success. To Blues, it cannot possibly be disputed that jacked assholes are getting laid only with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 02:41 PM |
| -1 | Do women life life on "easy mode"?First study: Has to do with managerial positions Second study: Has to do with women who dress sexily, which is different from "being attractive" not to mention the impropriety of dressing sexily at work for the sole purpose of attracting sexual attention. NYPost: Surprised to see a Blue citing to a Murdoch rag like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 02:34 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Exceptions aren't really exceptionsSo what? One example of ONE GUY doesn't make them "not universal". TRP doesn't present immutable laws of physics or thermodynamics, and never claimed to do so. TRP presents trends and general rules, not absolutes. AS A GENERAL RULE, the hot, fit, jacked, rich, successful, assertive guy does better than the tiny, ratfaced guy or the short fat guy. AS A GENERAL RULE, the first guy gets laid more than the second two guys. AS A GENERAL RULE, the first guy is happier with his life than the second two… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 02:30 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Exceptions aren't really exceptionsNot lately. his wife just died. Patton Oswalt if he gets laid at all, gets laid because he is a famous wealthy author/writer/witticist/humorist. He has money and fame. His looks aren't getting him laid. The average man is not witty like him, is not funny like him, and lacks his money and notoriety. We can't use Patton Oswalt as a benchmark for schlubby schleppy guys' alleged ability to get laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 02:15 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Exceptions aren't really exceptionsA guy can be short and overweight but generous and funny and he's going to be able to get laid. He'll be able to get laid eventually after waiting months or years. That's the thing about short fat out of shape guys. They get laid SOMETIMES. Just like pretty much every other man out there. Schlubs and schleps and losers get SOME sex, SOMETIMES. Wouldn't it be better to not be overweight and widen your appeal to more women who might be attracted to you were it not for the weight? And he'll feel be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 02:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Exceptions aren't really exceptionsBrilliant doesn't get you laid. Wit gets you laid IF you are good looking. Personality helps get you laid IF you are good looking. Not good looking? Women will tell you GTFO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Do women life life on "easy mode"?I'm not downvoting you. All women, even uglos and fatties, are treated better in the workplace. Uglos and fatties are, because the minute something happens they don't like, they are on the phone to HR and filling out incident reports. ANother thing: As an oldish man, I get shit on, ignored and mistreated all the time at work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 02:00 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Exceptions aren't really exceptionsOne of the reasons it's talked about in this way is to counter all the misinformation about sex, dating and marriage routinely dumped on men. It's the usual misinformation: All you have to do is be nice and be yourself. A great girl will love you for you someday. You are fine just the way you are. Your looks are not important. Don't change. If you change, if you try to improve your looks or change something about you, then you'll be seen as inauthentic, and women can tell. You don't need to chan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 01:59 PM |
| 3 | Do women life life on "easy mode"?No. Approachable as in easier to talk to. Yes, sometimes more capable. The way women are treated in the workplace really has changed. Women are treated better at work all around and in every way imaginable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 01:40 PM |
| 0 | Do women life life on "easy mode"?I know lots of women who would LOVE to have your problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 01:23 PM |
| 1 | Do women life life on "easy mode"?False. Hot women are seen as more capable, more approachable and friendlier. The last two characteristics I can vouch for personally. The first, not so much. I can say hot women are PERCEIVED as more capable at work, even if some of them are not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 01:23 PM |
| 1 | Do women life life on "easy mode"?Yes, women very much live life on "easy mode". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/16 01:14 PM |
| 0 | My idea of a low value manThat's kind of important to the analysis, don'tcha think? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 10:39 PM |
| 0 | My idea of a low value manDid you read what his wife did to him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 10:33 PM |
| 4 | What advice would you give your son, before he heads of to university?study hard. don't waste my money. find out whether you are in an "affirmative consent" state or campus, and see me when you find out so I can advise you accordingly. NO girlfriends; no getting serious with a girl. Date around, if you have sex, wrap it. Get some good male friends. Spend time with men you like and trust. | /r/askTRP | 09/08/16 10:19 PM |
| 0 | I'm about to turn 40, and have so many questions and fears. Do things get harder at this age?Yes kids are expensive but you'll be able to afford it. The problem you'll have is the time it takes to raise a kid. It will change your life - everything about your life. Your life as you knew it pre-kid is OVER. Absolutely EVERYTHING changes when you bring kids in. They are a huge, HUGE drain on your time and money. | /r/askTRP | 09/08/16 10:15 PM |
| 6 | I'm about to turn 40, and have so many questions and fears. Do things get harder at this age?I will turn 48 in a few weeks. First, DO NOT GET MARRIED. Get into an LTR when you find a woman willing to stay with you long term and be the mother of your child. If you want to be a father, get going on it. IF you knock up a girl tomorrow, you'll be 41 when it's born and 59 when it graduates high school and supporting it through college until you're 65. Think it through. Kids are hella expensive and an enormous drain on your time. If you are going to be a dad, I suggest the mother be absolutel… | /r/askTRP | 09/08/16 10:13 PM |
| -2 | A low-value guy dating low-value women as "stepping stones" to improve and eventually upgrade to higher-value women. Legitimate method of self-improvement or abusively "using" unattractive girls?I tried that for a long time. I tried being completely honest and above board. I tried showing love, giving her what she wanted, and caring for her. Know what that got me? I was repeatedly told to set myself on fire to keep her warm. I was taken advantage of, lied to, betrayed, treated like shit, used, manipulated, deceived, and defrauded. It got me exactly NOWHERE and NOTHING. That shit's never going to happen to me again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 09:52 PM |
| -1 | A low-value guy dating low-value women as "stepping stones" to improve and eventually upgrade to higher-value women. Legitimate method of self-improvement or abusively "using" unattractive girls?Girls don't have to know anything, and he's not required to advise her of what he wants/expects. (Actually, I'm not necessarily averse to deception, particularly given women's skill at deception and manipulation. If she can do it (and most do), I can't say men shouldn't do it.) And men can change their minds. A man can think a girl is a keeper, then change his mind and go back to casual. He's not required to provide her a running commentary on his feelings or to advise her of her precise status … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 09:47 PM |
| -2 | A low-value guy dating low-value women as "stepping stones" to improve and eventually upgrade to higher-value women. Legitimate method of self-improvement or abusively "using" unattractive girls?as far as I'm concerned, lying and leading others on is fair game. Women do this all the time to get what they want, be it sex with Chad or marriage to a beta bux. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If women can lie, manipulate, deceive and lead men on to get what they want, then men can do the same to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 09:44 PM |
| 0 | My idea of a low value manHere's what his wife did to him. I was angry at my wife for ILYBIANILWY. I was angry for my wife having had a 3 year affair in the late 90’s; and by the fact that she had the gall to tell me he was more of a father figure when I confronted her about it last August. Sound cringey to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 09:32 PM |
| -1 | A low-value guy dating low-value women as "stepping stones" to improve and eventually upgrade to higher-value women. Legitimate method of self-improvement or abusively "using" unattractive girls?I don't see a problem with his not informing her that he thinks of her as a practice girl, a girl to "cut his teeth on", so to speak (inb4 claims of abuse by Blues). He doesn't have to tell her that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 09:30 PM |
| 1 | A low-value guy dating low-value women as "stepping stones" to improve and eventually upgrade to higher-value women. Legitimate method of self-improvement or abusively "using" unattractive girls?Legitimate self improvement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 09:29 PM |
| 6 | Q4ALL Was Josie raped?Here's the point. Feminists and Blues BELIEVE the messages in that poster. In their hearts, the messages in that poster are articles of faith for them. End of story, if you ask me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 09:09 PM |
| 1 | My idea of a low value manRead this and then say that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 08:55 PM |
| 4 | Q4ALL Was Josie raped?LOL. Only because you feminists and Blues believe that. No, they don't say that. But they believe it. And they desperately WANT that to be law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL Was Josie raped?Better tell feminists and most Blues that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 08:51 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL Was Josie raped?Feminists believe the messages in that poster. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 08:48 PM |
| 5 | Q4ALL Was Josie raped?It's not a mistake. Feminists and Blues really do believe the messages in that poster. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 08:47 PM |
| 2 | My idea of a low value manNot necessarily. The world is full of low value married men. It's also full of low value married women. The wife of the man written about in the OP is just such a low value woman. She cheated on her husband about a decade and a half ago; and is still rubbing her husband's face in it now by flirting with men at her workplace. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 08:34 PM |
| 2 | My idea of a low value manHere's one of the things his wife did to him: I was angry at my wife for ILYBIANILWY. I was angry for my wife having had a 3 year affair in the late 90’s; and by the fact that she had the gall to tell me he was more of a father figure when I confronted her about it last August. First she fucks another guy for 3 years; then adds insult to injury. His wife ought to be on her knees thanking God every night he hasn't divorced her; and then giving him porn star level BJs, for staying married to her c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 08:33 PM |
| 3 | My idea of a low value manIt's funny how you didn't quote the part where his wife was flirting at her job with an engineer she was attracted to. His wife is throwing the hot engineer in his face. This cunty behavior, after her having had a 3 year affair on him before. Do you think that that is important in the analysis of how this man treated his wife? Do you believe a man is justified in responding the way he did to a wife who is mistreating him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 08:23 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?Does this really need to be spelled out? Responses like "Of COURSE everyone just KNOWS that looks matter" and "what, you couldn't look around and SEE what was going on?" are, in essence, "You're an idiot and a spergy autistic retard". Come on. I might have been gullible as a kid, but I'm not now, and I'm not stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 08:21 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?That's what the response ALWAYS is. "Idiot!" "Spergy autistic retards!" I can't imagine that women liking good looking, fit guys is some sort of a secret Translation: You should have figured this out; and because you didn't, you're an idiot and a spergy autistic retard. For every example you can think of where someone might disagree, there's a dozen examples in the real world that tells you that looks matter. Translation: Anyone who listens to people who explain what they're seeing is an idiot a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 07:09 PM |
| 2 | [Discussion] What does the apparent lack of ex-redpillers tell us about TRP's accuracy?This is a personal attack? uh, OK. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 06:39 PM |
| 3 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?Personal attacks are all you've got? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone else get irrationally angry when you see an ugly girl?No. I don't get pissed when I see ugly girls. And I don't hate it when they stare at me. I empathize with them. I don't want to fuck them or date them or have relationships with them. But I'm not pissed at them because they're ugly or they stare. | /r/askTRP | 09/08/16 06:10 PM |
| 2 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?I'm just watching what you're doing and saying. No logic required -- just observe and report. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 06:03 PM |
| 2 | [Discussion] What does the apparent lack of ex-redpillers tell us about TRP's accuracy?So SJW -ey. So socially conscious and so edgy at the same time. *Rolls eyes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 05:43 PM |
| -7 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?If you don't care about TRP men's sex lives, why do you spend so much time talking about them? Your repeated discussion of this and responses to me belies your supposed indifference. It's quite precious, really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 05:38 PM |
| -8 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?Yes. You all care very, very much about TRP men and their sex lives. It's quite funny to see how many of you spend all day, every day, "not caring" about TRP men and their sex lives. You all spend all day, every day, making fun of such men for being unable to get laid. You speculate, ruminate, consider and consider again. I set out no strawmen. BP does believe that TRP men standing up for themselves and refusing to put up with shit is "sexism" and TRP men disclosing truths about women as "misogy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 05:13 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?EDIT: Look. I've been through this topic and concept many times here at PPD and elsewhere. I'm really not interested in walking you through this and spoonfeeding it to you. Read the link again. Sets it out for you quite cleanly and nicely. If you're still having difficulty with it, I don't know what to tell you, other than it's just not your experience, and you're better off for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 05:03 PM |
| 0 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?Your claim wasn't you were personally kept in the dark about this Yes, it was. Not just me, but a lot of guys. EDIT: Look. I've been through this topic and concept many times here at PPD and elsewhere. I'm really not interested in walking you through this and spoonfeeding it to you. Read the link again. Sets it out for you quite cleanly and nicely. If you're still having difficulty with it, I don't know what to tell you, other than it's just not your experience, and you're better off for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 04:59 PM |
| 4 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?It's really funny.... Blues claim human behavior can be studied, systematized and predicted. Every behavior. Except sexual attraction and the formation of sexual relationships. When it comes to those things, oh, it's all just so infinitely complex and weird and gooey feelings and emotions and unpredictable and disorganized and who knows how the fuck it all works!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 04:57 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?Right on cue. Your response, translated, is pretty much exactly what I thought it would be. "You're idiots, you're spergy autistic retards, etc." Thanks for being so predictable. It's like you're one of Pavlov's dogs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 04:54 PM |
| -7 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?If the PROBLEM is "sexism" and "misogyny", then TRP will go away on its own. To Blues, of course, "sexism" is "men looking out for their own interests" and "men putting themselves first". "Misogyny" is "pointing out embarrassing and unsavory facts about women". Bullshit that BP doesn't care about whether TRP can or can't get laid. There's all sorts of incel shaming, "unattractive men" shaming, and ridicule over men's inability to get laid. You all care very, very much about whether TRP men are g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 04:52 PM |
| 3 | Why doesn't this pain ever leave?Whether it had to end or not; whether it ended by her hand or yours or through circumstance; your turn is over. Accept it. Forgive yourself. You fucked up. It happens. It's over. What's done is done. Go out there and meet more women. There are 3.5 billion of them. Don't get hung up on this one. | /r/askTRP | 09/08/16 04:37 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?I'm not an alpha and never claimed to be. Instead of going through how this works for some of us guys, I'll just invite you to read this. Don't bother responding, I've heard it all before -- "you're an idiot, you're an autistic spergy retard, why did you believe them, yada yada blah blah blah." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 04:34 PM |
| 6 | Why doesn't this pain ever leave?Because you're still holding onto that pain, and onto her. Because you haven't forgiven yourself for your fuckup. Because you haven't learned how to accept that most of the time, relationships don't work out. Because you haven't learned how to accept that your turn was over. | /r/askTRP | 09/08/16 04:25 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?The entire world is a "safe space" for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 03:35 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?Read this a bit more carefully. I'll help you by bolding the important parts. Your statement bears no rational relationship to the comment you replied to. The fact that Blues play at mockery and satire elsewhere but try to be Prim and Proper and Serious here bears on their credibility. It bears on the weight that should be afforded their arguments. That you're a court jester dancing monkey elsewhere for shits and giggles reflects on your credibility when you come here trying to be All Serious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 03:34 PM |
| 0 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?Heh. Blues are dancing monkeys for each other. Blues are all court jesters in a place where there is no king. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 03:18 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?Men have no safe spaces anywhere | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 03:15 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?Not "who the person is". I said your perspectives on personal relationships Which is the place from which the argument proceeds. The person making the argument has their own filters, their own perspectives, their own biases. Those things change, skew, alter and cloud the arguments offered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 03:14 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?The fact that Blues play at mockery and satire elsewhere but try to be Prim and Proper and Serious here bears on their credibility. It bears on the weight that should be afforded their arguments. That you're a court jester dancing monkey elsewhere for shits and giggles reflects on your credibility when you come here trying to be All Serious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 03:00 PM |
| 0 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?So? It's used against me all the time around here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 02:57 PM |
| 1 | "Men are better than women" is a fair interpretation of TRPWhich has exactly nothing to do with any woman's attractiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 02:57 PM |
| 3 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?Women who have had all those things happen to them have the entire world to take care of them. When they happen to women, women go to a "safe space". When those things happen to men, the only place men can go is TRP, which is a place to learn how to avoid those things happening again. TRP is anything but a "safe space". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 02:53 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?Because Blues make it clear that when they participate in a mockery website, they're not really interested in or capable of Serious Discussion. One or the other. Not both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 02:29 PM |
| 0 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?No it isn't. The credibility and effectiveness of argumentation is affected by the persons offering them. I won't discuss this particular point further directly with you, but it's clear that personal perspective affects weight and credibility of arguments offered. That particular point is used often against me. If I'm not immune to it, neither is anyone else on this board. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 02:27 PM |
| 0 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?It's not a personal attack. It's an acknowledgment that your statements on this should be taken with a pound of salt; and that your perspectives on personal relationships are suspect and should not be accorded weight or credibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 02:07 PM |
| 1 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?Wow. I agree with this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 01:56 PM |
| 4 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?Bullshit. I did everything people like you told me to do. I looked everywhere you told me to look, used everything you told me to use. You're just wrong about this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 01:48 PM |
| 3 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?Where is "BP advice" "all over the place"? I did it your way. I did everything you BPers said I should do: BE nice, be myself, pedestalize, supplicate, ignore my looks because YOU said they aren't important and "it's what's on the inside that counts" and "girls really like nice guys". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 01:26 PM |
| 6 | [Discussion] Why does TBP not present an alternative to TRP?Thanks for your admission that BP is really just a satire/mockery subreddit. It is not serious and should not be taken seriously. Thus, Blues who post here should not be taken seriously. Blues, you don't get to have it both ways. You don't get to run to your safe space and smirk and snicker; then come here and demand to engage in Serious Discussion Of The Issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/16 01:25 PM |
| 3 | So are we gonna ignore the 33/66 rule?You don't get to pick the topics, "buddy". The topic drifted to sluts. Nice downvoting, by the way. Downvoting isn't allowed around here. So don't do it. Personal attacks aren't allowed either. So I'd respectfully suggest you not do that either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/16 10:24 PM |
| 3 | So are we gonna ignore the 33/66 rule?Women who have sex with many men they find attractive are sluts. A woman, any woman, can avoid being a slut by finding one man she's attracted to, and then committing to him for life. See how easy that is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/16 10:10 PM |
| 10 | Why is TBP defending cheaters now?Oh, please. Here's a comment from that thread where there's a pretty clear defense (or at least rationalization/explanation) for the cheating woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/16 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Problem with AWALT?The thing that Blues always do with AWALT is say that one woman who is not Like That means that AWALT is a useless heuristic. Despite this being painstakingly explained to them time and again, Blues refuse to acknowledge that AWALT means 1) all women have a base nature, a "female nature", features of which are hypergamy, emotional thinking and decisionmaking, and being governed by emotion and not rational thinking 2) All women have it in them to treat men poorly, act irrationally, let their emot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/16 07:56 PM |
| 5 | So are we gonna ignore the 33/66 rule?Yes they can. Women learn very early on how to use their bodies to get what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/16 07:22 PM |
| 5 | So are we gonna ignore the 33/66 rule?at least not initially She has to cross the good looks threshold first. Luckily that's a pretty low bar to meet. Just about anyone can do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/16 06:55 PM |
| 19 | So are we gonna ignore the 33/66 rule?Oh bullshit. "Charming" girls? "Charming"? Men don't care about "charming" at least not initially. Cute girls get snapped up eventually. If a girl is cute, she's getting play, and lots of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/16 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Question for ladiesThen good luck finding a sufficiently sexually attractive man who also makes bank AND is nice to you AND does dishes sometimes AND has a huge cock and knows how to use it AND is willing to be faithful AND is willing to share his material possessions with you AND is willing to marry you AND is willing to rub your feet when they hurt AND loves your mother AND reads your mind AND is everything you want him to be when you want him to be it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/16 06:03 PM |
| 3 | [Discussion] What does the apparent lack of ex-redpillers tell us about TRP's accuracy?You did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/16 03:01 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pill is hypocritical and contradictory because it is comprised of privileged people who dislike the misogyny of TRP, but for understand dating as an average or below man."Just satire" You should tell the Blues that post here. They're satire over there, then demand to be taken seriously here. Blues don't get to have it both ways. Either you're the court jesters of the pillsphere or you want serious discussion. One or the other; not both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/16 02:29 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP can save lives, BP lies are very dangerous and ruin livesSource? Evidence? Factual basis? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/16 02:21 PM |
| 3 | At what age does the average western woman become less desirable to young, straight men than a decent looking teenage boy?What? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/16 11:31 PM |
| 1 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?So... you were told you have Asperger's, but don't do anything to treat it or work with it? Just... "OH well, sorry, life's hard, sucks to be you, nothing you can do about it, best of luck"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Yep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 08:26 PM |
| 4 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?How is it then that men come to TRP saying the same things I've said? Do you think I am the only one saying things like this? Do you believe I'm somehow telling them to say the same things I say, or they tell me to say what they say? How do you explain that this experience is limited to religious groups or regions of the country when men from Europe and non English speaking countries also experienced the same thing? Men from all regions of the country also did? Men from non religious backgrounds… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 08:05 PM |
| 8 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Doxxing isnt' my thing. I prefer not to be doxxed, thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 07:58 PM |
| 2 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?How is avoiding a woman who's trying only to "be my friend" complicating my life? That's absurd. Women who try to be "friendly" but who don't want to fuck me complicate my life by cluttering it up. I clear that out of my life every so often. You don't have to be on the lookout for someone's unwanted interest. It should be clear to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 07:40 PM |
| 6 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Sigh. Many men are brought up from birth with the notion that being nice is sexually attractive. It is hammered into them multiple times a day, every day, by parents, sisters, teachers, Scout leaders, pastors and all other adults they come into contact with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Twice. Once for saying "Hi, how are you" and another time for saying pretty much the same thing while very drunk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?I'm almost ready to submit a PPD post about this. I do not believe for one fucking second that women don't know when a man wants to fuck them. I find it nigh impossible to believe that a woman is unable to discern a man's sexual interest. I don't believe women are this stupid. They might be blatantly dishonest and disingenuous. But they aren't this fucking brain dead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 07:20 PM |
| 7 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Many, many men are told to open with "I'm nice". Many men were brought up with the lie that "nice" is sexually attractive. that's why it happens. I have beat this drum here so many times. And people just Do. Not. Get. It. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 07:17 PM |
| 3 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?This. So much this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 07:14 PM |
| 3 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?I think I have my answer. u/sardonis70 called it. You're the female equivalent of a clueless beta. I have finally met a Nice Girl. Or perhaps a NiceGirl(TM). Have a good day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 07:08 PM |
| 2 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Nope. Answer my questions FIRST. Debate in good faith or not at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?YOu don't have to "come forward". All you have to do is say "no" and keep your distance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?NO. NO NO NO. If he is not sexually interested in you, and those things are going on, HE WILL NOT ASK TO SPEND TIME WITH YOU ALONE. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 07:06 PM |
| 2 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Don't answer a question with a question. Debate/converse in good faith. You really don't know when a man wants to fuck you? REally? Seriously? You can't tell? You can't see it in his face or body language? You can't tell from the texting? You can't tell from the repeated attempts at interaction? You're oblivious to all this? Answer this, and then I'll answer yours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 07:05 PM |
| 7 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?First a man has to bring the attraction. Then and only then, he can show the "nice". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 07:02 PM |
| 2 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Men get cops called on them all the time for awkward interactions with women. Weird, offputting, whatever. No, they don't get thrown in jail for 90 days. They do however get jammed up, confronted, threatened and harassed by law enforcement for being unattractive and trying to interact with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?You really don't know when a man wants to fuck you? REally? Seriously? You can't tell? You can't see it in his face or body language? You can't tell from the texting? You can't tell from the repeated attempts at interaction? You're oblivious to all this? Tell me you're not serious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 06:57 PM |
| 4 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?YOUR SINGULAR EXPERIENCE IN EUROPE IS NOT THE EXPERIENCE OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE U.S. Really. Does a man have to come out and say "M'Lady, I request the honour of taking part in conjugal bliss with thee"? Does a man have to come out and say "Let's fuck"? Does a man have to come out and say "I am romantically/sexually interested in you"? THAT DOES NOT WORK FOR MEN. Do you really and truly not know when a man wants to fuck you? Seriously? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 06:55 PM |
| 2 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Bullshit it's not a thing. It is a thing when socially awkward men who really aren't all that good at this dating/sex thing try it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 06:54 PM |
| 2 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Jesus H. Christ. HE IS SPELLING IT OUT BY ASKING YOU TO SPEND TIME WITH HIM ALONE. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 06:53 PM |
| 1 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Because every woman knows that if a man is angling to spend time with a woman alone, he is sexually interested in her. Jesus H. Christ. Everyone knows this. EVERYONE. Every girl with two fucking brain cells can tell when a guy wants to get in her pants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 06:52 PM |
| 3 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?He wants to hang out with you because he's sexually interested in you. What the fuck. Does he have to come out and say "I want to fuck you" or "I am romantically interested in you"? If he says the former you'll call the cops. If he says the latter your pussy will dry up. Does he have to make a sexual move on you? What if he's read it wrong? If he read it wrong and he makes a sexual move where you're not attracted to him, you'll call the cops. No-win scenario. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 06:47 PM |
| 4 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?He's not pretending to be your friend. He's interested in you. He's communicating with you covertly, like women prefer to be communicated with. Isn't that what you want? Any man who is spending time with you is sexually interested in you. Do you really not know this or understand it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 06:45 PM |
| 3 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Here's how a guy who likes you comes forward and "expresses his feelings": Man: Let's go out. Meet me tomorrow night, 8:00, Mother Murphy's. Sandralees: No. I have to sort my sock drawer. Man: K Or Man: Let's go out. Meet me tomorrow night, 8:00, Mother Murphy's. Sandralees: [No response] I'd expect Man to get the hint at the refusal or lack of response. But if it goes this way: Man: Let's go out. Meet me tomorrow night, 8:00, Mother Murphy's. Sandralees: I'd love to. Man: K In that situation, A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 06:32 PM |
| 4 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?So... basically you're saying you can take advantage of, use, walk all over, lead on, and otherwise mistreat men who are showing interest in you, and you have no responsibility whatsoever. You KNOW these guys are interested in you sexually, you're USING them and injuring them, but you're putting the responsibility for YOUR conduct on THEM. Fascinating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 06:07 PM |
| 2 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?It's an interesting presidential race when --Trump's greatest selling point is he's not Hillary --Hillary's best selling point is she's not Trump --Hillary is her own most effective opponent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 06:03 PM |
| 3 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?It's perfectly reasonable advice. And self-preservation in today's day and age. If a woman isn't interested, she should avoid him and not speak with him. So what if men think she's a bitch? Most women aren't interested in most men anyway, and no one cares about most men either, so what's the difference? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 05:58 PM |
| 4 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Own your own shit. If you aren't interested in a guy who's giving you unsolicited interest, either avoid him or tell him outright. Otherwise, you're leading him on and keeping satellites in orbit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 05:57 PM |
| 2 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?If you don't like the guy, avoid him. he'll figure it out. If he doesn't, then just tell him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 05:55 PM |
| 7 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Which is... pretty much how real life men and real life women deal with each other. TRP tells men exactly how to read this in women and that the medium is the message because a lot of guys get the bullshit message that men and women are exactly the same. When most men hear this, they conclude that women will communicate with them the same way they communicate with everyone else -- openly, overtly, verbally and clearly. Women communicate covertly, using body language, avoidance, insinuation, resp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 05:54 PM |
| 12 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?To break their old habit of setting themselves on fire to keep others warm. To break their conditioning that if they do nice things for women, then women will be sexually attracted to them. Note that "don't be nice" does not mean "be an asshole". It just means don't do things for her, don't put yourself out for her. Don't help her move. Don't give her rides from place to place. Don't buy her anything, loan her anything, give her any gifts, or spend any time with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 05:44 PM |
| 2 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?You're not understanding what I said. OK. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 04:39 PM |
| 4 | [FR] – Using MRP and RPW in a marriageIf we're talking about what we did that helped initially, I think mine were telling her -I'm not putting up with your shit anymore. -You signed on to be a wife and mother. Stop complaining about the job you expressly agreed to and you expressly said you wanted. -Be nice to me. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 05/08/16 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Charisma, coolness and how you react/interact with others are not sexually attractive unless you have the rest of the package to go with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Because being nice isn't what men should be told. They don't need to be told to be nice. They need to be told to be physically attractive and interesting, and have something going on in their lives besides wanting sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?become violent (men generally). Bullshit. This is a relic of a bygone era. Men don't react violently to women rejecting them. Men cannot act this way; you'd call the cops and within 2 minutes, six large men in blue uniforms with guns, billy clubs and tasers will stomp his fucking guts out. Every man knows this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 04:32 PM |
| 3 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Because black don't crack. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 04:30 PM |
| 1 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Trump. The reason Trump has gotten the traction he has is because the GOP is fucking beyond fed up with their own party members selling them down the river time and again. A lot of men (including a lot of Red PIllers) love Trump because he acts like a badass who does what he wants, says what he wants, is beholden to no one, has more money than God, has branded himself brilliantly, puts stupid ass media talking heads in their place, insulted Megyn Kelly (someone who needed to be insulted and brou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 04:28 PM |
| 0 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?None of those things are SEXUALLY attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 04:25 PM |
| 5 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Right. This is the mindset men are inculcated with literally from birth. You are supposed to be friends with girls. ONLY friends. If you want a relationship you are supposed to be unfailingly nice to her. Supplicate. Pedestalize. Give her whatever she wants. if she says "jump" you say "how high". You ask for anything you want from her and if she doesn't give it, then you're not being "nice" enough and you need to be nicer. And you're told that these things are SEXUALLY attractive; that girls get… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 04:24 PM |
| 8 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Yes. If a Nice Guy is trying to get your attention and you're not attracted to him, then you just keep your distance. He'll figure it out. If he is still not figuring it out, then you have made a rare sighting of an even rarer NiceGuy (TM). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 04:14 PM |
| 5 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?We're discussing encouraging (or not encouraging) nice guy behavior. Women complain constantly about how annoying, irritating and grindingly unattractive Nice Guys are. We know women don't want to look like bitches. So just ignore the guy and politely refuse to respond to his overtures. He'll go away. If you're "experiencing unrequited love", the exact WRONG thing to do (at least for a man) is to come forward and spill your guts about your feelings for a woman. She'll cringe. She'll recoil. She'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 04:12 PM |
| 3 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Why is it a lot of work? All she has to do is not respond, and ignore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Yeah, I agree.. a lot of it is women just don't want to look like total bitches when they shut down a guy who has no chance with them and never will. That's because women never know who else might be watching; and they don't want this guy shittalking them to men they might want to fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 03:46 PM |
| 6 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?When I was in high school and college there were a few girls who showed interest in me after I either (a) ignored them or (b) hung out with them drinking cheap beer and talking shit with other guys and girls. I remember thinking "why are they acting interested? I didn't pursue them. I wasn't nice to them. I don't even think about them. We were just bullshitting about things. What did I do that they want more from me than "just friends"?" Of course, at the time I had no idea at all how this worke… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 03:44 PM |
| 14 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Nice guys think "being nice" helps them get sex because literally everyone in their lives tells them that "being nice" is the only legitimate way to get relationships; and "relationships" are the only legitimate places to have sex. But they don't think they're "entitled" to sex. They just think they're doing the things that everyone's told them will get them what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?By the way.... There's a difference between being "nice" and "polite". "Polite" in today's parlance means more or less "not a total asshole". Men should be "polite" going through their daily lives. They should be assholes to people who deserve it. I suspect that when most people talk about "nice", they mean much, much more than "polite". There seems to be an expectation among most women that most men will be more than "polite". Most women will expect men to do things for them, lift heavy things … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 03:25 PM |
| 3 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?And useful. That's why Red Pill men are told not to be "nice" to any girls they don't fuck. If he's not fucking her, he owes her nothing. If he's nice to her and she's paying attention to him but not fucking him, she's using him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 03:15 PM |
| 13 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?And then there are men who are "only nice" who I do nice things for but they don't inspire any sexual attraction from me. Which is why Red Pill men especially recovering Nice Guys are encouraged to avoid being nice to any woman he's not fucking. That doesn't mean he has to be an asshole to them. It just means he gives them nothing beyond common courtesies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 03:13 PM |
| 4 | Do women encourage nice guy behaviour?Yes, of course women encourage "nice guy" behavior. Women do this for many reasons. Some of it is innocuous. It's intended to avoid causing unnecessary pain for a guy she knows she will never fuck. Most of it's intended to avoid awkward communications with a guy she knows she'll never fuck. So she encourages "nice guy" behavior hoping he'll get the hint and leave her alone. Plus, women say they fear violence and unbridled anger if they reject men. I think that's bullshit and a relic from a bygon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 03:08 PM |
| 1 | TRP doesn't just work on "weak/insecure" women, it also works on seemingly normal, well adjusted, and even "strong/independent" women as well.Sure. But that doesn't support the proposition that "a lot of guys are having a lot of casual sex." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Peak SMV for menlulz. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 02:36 PM |
| 2 | Ok,do you think on average 40 years olds have a higher SMV than 20 years olds?So you're talking about men here? The answer is, it depends. Depends on the man, the context and the woman/women assessing him. If all you're talking about here is male physique, then ON AVERAGE, the 20 year old man has higher SMV than the 40 year old man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 02:35 PM |
| 0 | Peak SMV for menShallowness becomes you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 02:33 PM |
| 3 | TRP doesn't just work on "weak/insecure" women, it also works on seemingly normal, well adjusted, and even "strong/independent" women as well.I know you don't believe it exists, Don't assume things about me you don't know. a lot of guys are having a lot of casual sex Prove it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 02:31 PM |
| 5 | Is there something specific the MGTOWs want?Right. The reason MGTOWs/MRAs/incels are ignored and no one gives a shit about them is that no one cares about unattractive men being unable to get laid. No one cares about men's failures, or helping them succeed, or pretty much anything about men. Nobody gives a shit that a man wants or needs things. He is just expected to get them on his own. He is expected never to ask anyone for help if he cannot get them or doesn't know how to get them. And if he cannot get them he is supposed to STFU about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 02:25 PM |
| 1 | Is there something specific the MGTOWs want?Nope. People don't give a shit about ordinary men, or men getting laid, because men are supposed to figure that shit out on their own instead of asking strangers on the internet for help. And they are sure as hell not supposed to complain about it. That's why MGTOWs/MRAs/incels are ignored. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 02:22 PM |
| 5 | TRP doesn't just work on "weak/insecure" women, it also works on seemingly normal, well adjusted, and even "strong/independent" women as well.If men really did have that many options, they --would never marry --would have a lot more casual sex The average plumped out quick lube mechanic or Wal Mart shelf stocker or junior "account executive" does not have that many sexual options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 02:20 PM |
| 2 | Peak SMV for menA man's sexual market value is much more than his physique. It's his Power (confidence + dominance + status) and his earning power as well. So most men are peaking there around 35-38, IF they have taken care of themselves. Even if his waist is getting a bit thick and his hair is getting a bit thin, he'll be forgiven it if he's made something of himself and has a bit of money in the bank. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 02:12 PM |
| 8 | TRP doesn't just work on "weak/insecure" women, it also works on seemingly normal, well adjusted, and even "strong/independent" women as well.Most don't. Don't be intentionally obtuse. you KNOW, or at least you should know, that most men don't have multiple women wanting them sexually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/16 01:45 PM |
| 4 | Is there something specific the MGTOWs want?Going your own way is great if you're the first kind, the "eternal bachelor" who has relationships and sex partners now and again. Otherwise, not so much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 09:46 PM |
| 10 | TRP doesn't just work on "weak/insecure" women, it also works on seemingly normal, well adjusted, and even "strong/independent" women as well.You're really grasping here. It's not clear nom was saying women have the option to choose any man they want. No woman has those options. Such a position would be patently absurd. No man, not even Chad, has unlimited options to fuck any girl he wants. Women do, however, have options of multiple men EXPRESSING SEXUAL INTEREST in them, which women can almost always parlay into pretty much what they want, up to and including commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 09:45 PM |
| 11 | TRP doesn't just work on "weak/insecure" women, it also works on seemingly normal, well adjusted, and even "strong/independent" women as well.Most women are women with options. Most women have multiple sexual and relationship options merely by dint of their existence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 08:59 PM |
| 3 | Is there something specific the MGTOWs want?Depends on which MGTOWs you're talking about. MGTOWs are not a monolithic group. Original MGTOWs have always been with us. Eternal bachelors who refused the "conventional" male paths of school, get job earning 500% more than you need, get married, have kids. They didn't necessarily avoid women; they had relationships that didn't involve marriage or children. Those men just want to be left alone to live their lives as they want. Then there were activist MGTOWs like the guys at AVfM. These are MRA… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 08:40 PM |
| 1 | If a woman wants to fix some issues with herself, can she?Non sequitur: Latin "It does not follow". Merriam Webster: A statement that is not connected in a logical or clear way to anything said before it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 07:16 PM |
| 1 | If a woman wants to fix some issues with herself, can she?Non sequitur | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 06:43 PM |
| 1 | If a woman wants to fix some issues with herself, can she?Bad sex? Uh, OK. At least she gets sex whenever she wants it. Risk of pregnancy? Any moron can learn to take a goddamn pill the same time every day. Any idiot can get Norplant or an IUD courtesy of the American taxpayer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 06:30 PM |
| 1 | If a woman wants to fix some issues with herself, can she?A few women experiencing "forced medical interventions" while incarcerated or having run-ins with the law, or having to carry a child to term following a botched abortion (when the women are in that situation as a direct result of their own conduct) hardly "takes away" from women's very real "sexual wonderland". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 06:18 PM |
| 5 | "This subreddit stands against hate speech" wtf is all this then?Equal opportunity's a bitch, aint it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 05:30 PM |
| 1 | If a woman wants to fix some issues with herself, can she?Meh. Not my problem. I don't have to explain to you why anything is or isn't a thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 05:29 PM |
| 2 | If a woman wants to fix some issues with herself, can she?The original challenge was: Show one, just one, example of a circumstance where a woman is punished more harshly than a man. I can show several examples where men are routinely punished more harshly than women. You failed, because of the distinctions I just set out -- distinctions that any high school senior could discern just by reading the articles you cited to. This has nothing to do with ignoring specifics or outrage porn. This has to do with your inability thus far to show what SunnyFoxes a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 05:03 PM |
| 2 | If a woman wants to fix some issues with herself, can she?Sigh. 1) the woman was convicted of lewdness after a trial. 2) The man pled guilty to attempted lewdness. The woman insisted on a trial for, and was found guilty and convicted of, ACTUAL lewdness. The man made a plea deal and copped to ATTEMPTED lewdness. The woman was tried and convicted. The judge imposed the required sentence. The man got less time because he made a deal. But he really didn't get less time - he got a 20 year sentence. The woman got 10 to life, and will be out in 10 or perhaps… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 04:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Hairstyles and clothes have little impact on attractiveness as long as you meet the minimum requirements, which 90%+ of people do.It's different for men than it is for women. Most women do meet "minimum requirements". But it's not 90+%. It's around 60 to 70% of women. Stated another way, 60 to 70% of women meet minimum thresholds of attractiveness with hairstyles and clothing, along with the rest of the package. Around 20 to 30% of men meet bare minimum thresholds of attractiveness. For the remaining 70% to 80% of men, fixing hair and clothes only won't help them at all. Those remaining 70% to 80% of men have deeper, more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 04:37 PM |
| 1 | CMV In the modern world, men have to deal with just as many, if not more, unrealistic standards as women.Eh. Could be. I personally don't care whether "women" are happy or not. I care about whether my wife and daughter are happy. Hot men (well, men in general) wouldn't want to have children because children are insanely burdensome. They require enormous amounts of time and effort. They require insane amounts of monetary investment. You're trolling with this: Their genes are the ones the species needs. They're being selfish and dooming future generations to unattractive sires. Who cares if they're b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 04:18 PM |
| 2 | If a woman wants to fix some issues with herself, can she?You didn't understand the article. The woman was sentenced under a mandatory minimum. A man forcing a 13 year old girl to touch his penis would have been similarly sentenced under that particular statute. It was 10 years to life. She'll be eligible for parole in 10 years. She'll be paroled at the end of those 10 years, guaran-fucking-teed. She'll be "rehabilitated" and "ready to re-enter society" in 10 years. In fact if there's a good behavior provision or gubernatorial intervention with clemenc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 04:13 PM |
| 3 | CMV In the modern world, men have to deal with just as many, if not more, unrealistic standards as women.I could encourage hot men to do that. But... 1) they'll do what serves their interests. And what's in their interests is to spin plates and avoid commitment and having kids. That's what I'd do if I were in their shoes (or I'd at least try). 2) You're wrong that "no beta men get divorce raped and everyone is happy". There aren't nearly enough hot men to go around to every woman who wants one. What about the 50% or so of women who want to get married but can't marry a hot man because the hot men d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 04:00 PM |
| 1 | CMV In the modern world, men have to deal with just as many, if not more, unrealistic standards as women.Young 'un. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 03:53 PM |
| 4 | CMV In the modern world, men have to deal with just as many, if not more, unrealistic standards as women.I really can't disagree with any of that. Yes, women are going to continue marrying, or trying to marry, men they're not attracted to, when the clock is running out and the hot guys stop calling/texting her. And yes, women will continue to divorce rape men for cash and prizes. That's in their interest. Women will do what will best serve their interests. That's why some of them stay married to a beta cuck -- because in some way, remaining married to a guy they've cucked the shit out of serves her… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 03:52 PM |
| 2 | CMV In the modern world, men have to deal with just as many, if not more, unrealistic standards as women.Not as stunned as many women were to discover that Ricky Martin was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 03:47 PM |
| 7 | CMV In the modern world, men have to deal with just as many, if not more, unrealistic standards as women.Men take that next step because they're afraid of losing what little shitty sex they get, or because they think they can't do any better, or because they really do care. Women take that next step because well, this is guy number 25, and she's not getting any younger, and the bio clock is roaring in her ears, and "it's time to get married because I wanna and everyone else is or already has and just 'cuz." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 03:46 PM |
| 2 | CMV In the modern world, men have to deal with just as many, if not more, unrealistic standards as women.It probably comes from Sheldon Cooper on Big Bang Theory whose model train hobby was a plot point for a while. But that's not as funny or on point as his ineptitude with Amy. Plus he can't make funny references to "coitus" with model trains. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 03:43 PM |
| 7 | CMV In the modern world, men have to deal with just as many, if not more, unrealistic standards as women.There are signs of them well before the wedding. Their clarity and prominence vary widely. Any man with two weeks of Red Pill exposure would see them a mile away. Blue Pill conditioning tells them to look the other way and gives them false hope. But like a bacterial infection, after the wedding they fulminate and overtake the marriage with frightening speed and ferocity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 03:40 PM |
| 5 | CMV In the modern world, men have to deal with just as many, if not more, unrealistic standards as women.Oh well. Better that they not marry, than they marry a man they're settling for. That ruins lives down the line. EDIT: Women's relational and sexual dilemmas are not my problem. Navigating the line between commitment and hot sexual lust is your problem, not mine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 03:26 PM |
| 0 | Own your shit! First post from a fed up beta...Been a career beta for my entire life (currently 29) married for 3 years (shes 34) with a 2 & 4 y/o. Oh, God. Please tell me the kids are yours. | /r/askMRP | 04/08/16 01:47 PM |
| 8 | CMV In the modern world, men have to deal with just as many, if not more, unrealistic standards as women.The reason those women are "repressed" and can't talk about sex with their husbands is because those women's husbands repulse them. Just the thought of sex with their husbands nauseates and sickens them. And these guys want to talk to their wives about sex because Blues have taught them that the way you fix every problem in marriage is to "talk about it" and "learn to communicate better" and "share your feelings". Well shit. These women are communicating with their husbands just fine -- they're … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Frustrated Chump Looking for a Slap From Realityyeah. Women more than 2 years older are plates. Plates only. Fun for dating and fucking. Nothing serious. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 04/08/16 01:36 PM |
| 5 | CMV In the modern world, men have to deal with just as many, if not more, unrealistic standards as women.Does anyone actually give two fucks about a potential partner's hobbies? If the guy goes fishing/hiking/mountain bike riding, those are cool, masculine hobbies. It's at least not a negative. A man's hobbies can be a negative. For example, Blue Pill women around here have made fun of men who are into model railroading. There's also the ubiquitous hate that video gaming and World of Warcraft get around here. If a guy is into music or theater (especially if he's a singer or dancer), it's widely ass… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 01:34 PM |
| 8 | CMV In the modern world, men have to deal with just as many, if not more, unrealistic standards as women.Not true. What happened with most MRPers is they married women who settled for them, women who had either carouseled it or had premarital sex with much more attractive men than the men we're talking to over there. Those men were their women's consolation prizes; the "thanks for playing" prize 98+% of women get after trying and failing to take home a pretty horsie from the carousel. The red flags were there; the men either didn't know about them or ignored them. If those men had it to do over aga… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 01:28 PM |
| 13 | CMV In the modern world, men have to deal with just as many, if not more, unrealistic standards as women.Women do expect it from the average man. What happens with women is they fuck hot men, then can't get one of them to commit. So even though they settle for an average man, she still expects all the bells and whistles from her average man and gets pissed when he can't/won't/doesn't deliver. At a certain point she decides marriage is more important than getting pumped and dumped, and she settles for an average man. She's miserable. She makes him miserable. She then divorces him and takes half his … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/16 01:25 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenofspock seems to believe that there are women who have never once done any of those things. I think that's ludicrous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 11:06 PM |
| 2 | Severing or Securing Paternity RightsInteresting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 10:05 PM |
| 0 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenu/anarchkitty got pwned | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 09:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenk lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 09:31 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenIf you believe there are women who have never, not once, not ever: --thrown a fit because she didn't get what she wanted --acted like a total bitch to her BF/date/husband --had an episode where she got totally emotional, illogical and unreasonable --became selfish and self centered over something Then I've got a bridge you'd be interested in purchasing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 09:27 PM |
| 3 | Entering LDR: MRP on tough mode or it is over?are you kidding? She's moved 6 hours away. You don't think she's going to cheat sexually if you tell her to "stay home for a year and pine for" you? Based on how she left, and your description of the marriage in this and previous posts, your marriage is hanging off a cliff by its fingernails. She is three Merlots and one Chad away from cheating. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 03/08/16 08:32 PM |
| 3 | Entering LDR: MRP on tough mode or it is over?Went back through your post history because your handle looked familiar. You're the guy whose wife was going out drinking and partying, saying she kinda wants to get pregnant. You want kids, she really doesn't. An LDR just takes this from bad to worse. Please read my last advice to you from one of your earlier posts. From this current post, it's clear you're not listening. I just don't see a reason for you to continue this marriage. It's bad, she's essentially left you for another job, and she d… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 03/08/16 08:27 PM |
| 8 | Frustrated Chump Looking for a Slap From RealityMe three. u/improvedkrux, you're not even married to this woman. You have no children. She is 5 years older than you are, admittedly a post-CC likely post-Wall woman who is treating you like shit. I'm seeing these more and more, and I honestly can't tell any of these men to stick with it. OP, I see no reason whatsoever to sink one more ounce of time or effort into this relationship. Good money after bad and all that. This is not worth fixing or saving. Break off the engagement. Let her keep the … | /r/MarriedRedPill | 03/08/16 08:15 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenThis is really quite tedious. There are no white women, black women, Arab women, Christian women, or Muslim women. They're just women. As I told haus before, TRP isn't about helping men attract other men for sex and relationships. We're about helping men attract women for sex and relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 08:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenWe just had that discussion. Refer back to it, please. Men Do It Too is not a valid justification for anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 06:33 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenEvery woman has a little bit of manipulative sociopath in her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Older women in moviesBridesmaids was a movie about... bridesmaids. About women being bridesmaids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 06:27 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenNot really, because TRP isn't about helping men date and fuck men, white people, black people, arabs, Christians or muslims. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 06:26 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womendeny your own capacity for neurosis refuse to countenance the idea that a little honest self-reflection might help your game. I said: Men are fucked up. I know this. Your point is....? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 04:20 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenHere. Let's end this right here. Men are fucked up. I know this. Women are fucked up. After getting a TRP education, I know this too. You might want to ask yourself why it's so important for you to establish "But but but MEN DO IT TOO!! So THERE!!!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 03:53 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenYes. It is irrelevant to my sexual strategy. My own personality foibles, whatever they might be, have little to do with learning about what women are like, the nature of women, how they react and what they respond to, and applying it to my interactions with them. I don't care about men's particular issues or problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 03:25 PM |
| 5 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenI. Don't. Care. It's irrelevant to TRP and sexual strategy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 03:17 PM |
| 5 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenIf it makes you feel better, yes, men can be all those things and worse. Men can also be shortsighted, violent, moronic and insensitive. SO WHAT? I am not here trying to improve my relationships with men. I am not here trying to figure out how to fuck men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 03:02 PM |
| 4 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenTRP doesn't care if men can be any of those things. The vast majority of men at TRP don't want to fuck men. So whether men can be any of those things is totally irrelevant. If men are those things, they might want to get some therapy for them. But they're ultimately irrelevant to this and almost all other discussions, because they don't have anything to do with TRP and sexual strategy. And whether men can be crazy, demanding, bitchy or unreasonable (IOW, acting like women) is women's problem, re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 02:49 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenWould a woman dump Chris Pratt? Because Chris Pratt is a beta male, and it's very obvious. Alpha/Beta is about personality type, not your SMV. CHris Pratt does not have the personality of a parsnip. Or at least his film personas do not. He had a dad bod in Parks and Recreation. He had a more juiced up physique in Guardians of the Galaxy. He's not a beta, at least not in TRP parlance. What TRP teaches is how to be a good clown. No. You're confused. TRP is not PUA. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 02:47 PM |
| 6 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenSo? We're talking about whether women have these traits and to what degree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 02:36 PM |
| 1 | Older women in moviesIrrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 02:13 PM |
| 3 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenIt's off topic. But this You're never really going to be able to hit the spot because beta guys are kind of boring Is exactly the problem a lot of these guys have. Some of these men can get relationships but cannot keep them. you still offer a lot if you're attractive and women will respond to that. But you don't offer a lot if you have just "attractiveness" with beta. And women respond initially, but then dump you once they find out you have the personality of a parsnip. That's the problem. Tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 02:13 PM |
| 2 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenOK, but whether men have those issues isn't germane to whether women have them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Older women in moviesBroke even on its production costs, not its marketing costs. GB2016's investors are still losing money until it recovers its marketing costs. Weaver was a brilliant actress. Also a hot actress that men wanted to look at in her underwear. People knew GB2016 wouldn't be funny because you can't recreate Murrayesque and Aykroydesque snarky, sarcastic charm with a fat chick, an average chick and a black chick. With women, snark and sarcasm come off as obnoxiousness and grating bitchiness. And the adv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 01:57 PM |
| 5 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenYes, of course men should find low drama women. The point is that they are all like that. They all have it in them. My wife can be insanely hyperemotional, can get carried away in her emotions, especially anger, fear, sadness, frustration, etc. You're never going to get away from this with women. They are all truly "like that". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 01:51 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: How did you find out about this "Pill" stuff?Red Pill is full of people with autism, or at least it looks like autism. Blue Pill is full of people with diagnosed mental disorders and personality disorders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 01:47 PM |
| 15 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenI'll C your V. There is no "wrong type" of women. They're just women. AWALT. All women are a little damaged, insecure, narcissistic and emotionally unhealthy. All women have it in them to be self centered, bitchy, demanding and unreasonable. It's all just a matter of degree. The crazy girls with daddy issues just have it worse. Spend some time getting to know your sweet conservative girls. You'll find out they all have some bitchiness and unreasonableness, can be insanely demanding sometimes, ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 01:37 PM |
| 9 | CMV: TRP attracts the wrong type of womenTRP tenants Tenets. TENETS. A "tenant" is one who owns, occupies or holds real estate. A "tenet" is a closely held belief or opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 01:25 PM |
| 2 | Older women in moviesSigourney Weaver in Alien - it works. Sigourney is set to star in more Avatar movies - her star power will continue. Alien worked in no small part because Weaver spent part of the movie running around in her underwear. And it was a good script, with good action sequences, a horrifying villain, well acted with taut direction. thumbsucking baby men who refused to go see it because ... women. As if the fucking odds weren't stacked so high against women in the first place. People didn't want to see … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 01:18 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Women in online dating sites end up empty handed because their standards are unrealisticI think your conclusion is correct but the reasoning you've offered to get there is incorrect. Or at least incomplete. Most men are desperate anyway, irrespective of online dating's use or existence. Most men aren't very attractive. Most men don't in real life hit on anything that walks; they're too afraid to do that. Most men send out tons of messages on dating sites because they can, and because it's a hell of a lot easier to send out messages to webpages than it is to engage a real life flesh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/16 01:11 PM |
| 1 | Men slut shame because they're insecureInteresting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 07:06 PM |
| 1 | What percentage of core red pill teachings do you think are correct?Most women say they don't cheat. FIFY. Most women will not admit to cheating publicly when surveyed about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 06:51 PM |
| 3 | What percentage of core red pill teachings do you think are correct?First of all, it wasn't "so many men". Source? Evidence? Factual basis? Many left their wives and family for younger women too. Source? Evidence? Factual basis? This is a massively, massively overblown claim. It happened, sure. But it wasn't "many". It wasn't "so many", either. Second, because men want to fuck strange pussy. That doesn't mean they don't love their wives or want to torpedo their marriages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 06:41 PM |
| 1 | 'We don't hate women' wtf is all this then?I cannot speak for everyone. It seems like there are some at TRP, anger phasers, who want "motherly love". Most men, even TRP noobs, even Blue Pill men, instinctively understand that pity destroys sexual attraction. I think your answer is that most men would like and appreciate it if women would at least empathize with men's sexual and relationship difficulties and failures. (Empathy: Women reaching an intellectual understanding of the average man's situation in the SMP, and saying "yeah, I can … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 06:31 PM |
| 5 | Alternate Explanation for the 80/20 RuleI don't think I'm absurd and insane. I also do not believe for one single second that you want to fuck more than half the men you meet. That's ridiculous. As someone who sees slutwalks take place, who has seen women having whatever sex they want whenever and wherever they want, who's seen women cheating on their husbands with attractive men, with no consequences whatsoever flowing from any of them, I have to disagree with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 06:01 PM |
| 7 | Alternate Explanation for the 80/20 RuleIf you truly believe that the average woman finds about 50 to 70% of men attractive, that's..... just absurd. Insane. Social shaming of women for having sex, wanting sex and being sexual no longer exists in America. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 05:58 PM |
| 6 | Alternate Explanation for the 80/20 RuleThese rough metrics come from observation and experience -- my own, and that of TRP men and manosphere blogs writing and talking about their experiences and observations. What's your factual basis for not "see[ing] the situation being nearly as dire as you guys paint it to be"? When you say "some relationship sex"... are you insinuating that men in relationships aren't getting as much sex as they want? or that relationship sex is somehow of less value than sex with randoms? The former. Most men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 05:56 PM |
| 7 | 'We don't hate women' wtf is all this then?I don't want women to pity me. Pity is not shorthand for empathy and sympathy. Pity and sympathy are "I feel SO SORRY for you! My HEART BLEEDS for you! I FEEL your PAIN!" Empathy is "I can put myself in your shoes, and I can kind of see how what youre experiencing sucks ass. That really is terrible, and I can see why you feel the way you do." EDIT: Women do not empathize with men's sexual and relationship difficulties and failures. Women absolutely HATE it when men talk about those things, parti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 05:53 PM |
| 7 | Alternate Explanation for the 80/20 RuleYou're right about everything but this: women find a large range of men attractive and this without social shaming I don't believe your average woman finds more than about 25% of the men she encounters SEXUALLY attractive. You're conflating "attraction" with "comfort". She would be comfortable with more than half the men she sees. But "comfort" is not "SEXUAL attraction". The SEXUAL is in caps because it's important. There is no such thing as social shaming or "slut shaming" in America anymore. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 05:48 PM |
| 3 | Alternate Explanation for the 80/20 RuleIt's not 80/20. It's more like 20/60/20. And what do you believe "human nature" naturally produces, then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 05:42 PM |
| 5 | Alternate Explanation for the 80/20 RuleWhere does that leave the remaining 80% of men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 05:37 PM |
| 4 | Incels and MassagesYeah, massages are sensual. I don't get a hardon when I get them, though. They feel great, and are excellent stress relievers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 05:33 PM |
| 4 | Article from Journal of Evolution and Human Behavior: Men pay far more for younger prostitutes. How does this fit into the RP vs BP paradigm? (banned from sugar subreddit)paging u/lollygagyo.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 05:31 PM |
| 5 | Alternate Explanation for the 80/20 RuleCome on... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 05:31 PM |
| 14 | Alternate Explanation for the 80/20 RuleNo. YOU and WOMEN are more free to have sex like we used to in the jungle. The TOP 20% OF MEN are more free to have sex like we used to in the jungle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 05:29 PM |
| 5 | Alternate Explanation for the 80/20 RuleBecause women get much more and much better real time feedback on their attractiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 05:29 PM |
| 11 | Alternate Explanation for the 80/20 RuleSome men have lots of sex with no commitment. Most men cannot have sex without commitment. They have to "be a boyfriend" or get married to get any sex. Most men get to have some sex, but it's conditioned on his investment and commitment. How do you not understand this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 05:22 PM |
| 11 | Alternate Explanation for the 80/20 RuleWomen's sexual strategies have been endorsed and encouraged. There is nothing cultural, legal or social which prevents women from doing pretty much anything they want. Men's sexual strategies have been basically outlawed. Men operate under all sorts of cultural, legal and social constraints preventing them from leaving bad marriages and preventing them from having sex with women absent commitment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 05:18 PM |
| 5 | Alternate Explanation for the 80/20 RuleThey're not statistics. They came from my ass. They're a rough metric on what the SMP looks like for men and women. You can argue about the numbers like u/sardonis70 did in his comment. Don't get caught up in the numbers; look at the categories. Small number of men getting all the sex they want. Big number of men getting some sex. Small number of men getting very little to no sex. Small number of women being total slutbags. Big number of women, a firm majority, hooking up until they want to chan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 05:16 PM |
| 6 | Alternate Explanation for the 80/20 RuleGlad to help. You're welcome. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 05:14 PM |
| 9 | Alternate Explanation for the 80/20 RuleWomen's SMVs are artificially inflated. Men's SMVs are artificially depressed. This is by design. The purpose is to help women identify high SMV men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 05:11 PM |
| 2 | Alternate Explanation for the 80/20 Ruleread my edits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 04:55 PM |
| 14 | Alternate Explanation for the 80/20 RuleNo, it's not based on a study from OKCupid. The 80/20 rule has been present and in colloquial use from the earliest days of the manosphere and predates the OKCupid study by at least a few years. It basically says "20% of the men get to have sex with 80% of the women." One variation says "20% of the men get 80% of the sex." It's a variation on the Pareto Principle, holding that 80% effects come from 20% of the causes. That's been extended to many applications, most notably 20% of clients/customer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 04:49 PM |
| 2 | How come more women aren't into "polyamory"?I'm just reporting what women have told me and what I've read in articles, stories and blogposts they've written. You disagree with it and claim it's not your experience. OK. (shrug) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 04:15 PM |
| 12 | 'We don't hate women' wtf is all this then?I don't see what the big issue is here. There's a post on r/theredpill that says: --women don't experience the friendzone in the same way as men do and can't relate to men's friendzone experiences --women don't pity, empathize or sympathize with men who experience the friendzone And.....? Men reading these things don't need to "love and embrace" women at that moment. They need to care about themselves. Much of the harsh locker room language at that subreddit is used to shock men out of their com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 04:13 PM |
| 2 | How come more women aren't into "polyamory"?Because.... I'm a man, and you're PPD women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 04:03 PM |
| 8 | 'We don't hate women' wtf is all this then?Shitpost. What is the question? What's the criticism? Did you come here just to rant and rave? This is Purple Pill Debate, not Purple Pill Vent Your Spleen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 03:57 PM |
| 5 | How come more women aren't into "polyamory"?Not all women post on PPD. I believe you and zazie; I just don't believe your experience/opinions can be extrapolated to all women. I've read women telling stories about the shit they've done for attractive men -- shit they said they'd never do, shit they can't believe in retrospect they did; shit they say they'll never ever do again; shit they said they would never ever have done for any other man, and on and on. If he's hot, she'll likely be down for pretty much whatever he wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 03:53 PM |
| 5 | How come more women aren't into "polyamory"?That's you. And that's what you say, having never been exposed to it. And that's fine. Many, many women will do pretty much whatever a hot man wants them to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 03:46 PM |
| 2 | How can women exactly recognize assholes?True dat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 03:45 PM |
| 2 | How can women exactly recognize assholes?She doesn't have to be super hot. She just needs to be attractive enough for his standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 03:39 PM |
| 5 | How come more women aren't into "polyamory"?If it's the right man, she'll be open to it. If he's attractive enough, hot enough, tingles her enough. Women will crawl over broken glass to be with men they're attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 03:33 PM |
| 2 | How come more women aren't into "polyamory"?Women are open to it for the right man or men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 03:19 PM |
| 1 | The case against affirmative consent laws.Tribunals ARE "process". The issue is whether they are sufficient to be "DUE" process. In other words, is that enough process to protect the property interest at stake. Thank you for admitting that due process is required. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 03:15 PM |
| 2 | The case against affirmative consent laws.You do not understand the concept of due process in any way, shape, manner or form. here is a crash course in Constitutional Due Process law. In your "own a restaurant" scenario, it's a private business. Due process applies only to state action. If you kick out people based on their membership in a protected class, it becomes a legal matter, but only based on specific civil rights laws passed by Congress applying to places of "public accommodation" and which might affect "interstate commerce", n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 03:03 PM |
| 5 | How can women exactly recognize assholes?Some people (basically "nice guys") would say that women should go for men that are very caring and not social and basically non-masculine "Nice guys" don't say this. Women like Sheryl Sandberg say this. They advocate fucking bad boys and thugs and assholes; then marrying "men that are very caring and not social and basically non-masculine". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 02:53 PM |
| 1 | The case against affirmative consent laws.Um, yes, public institutions are required to provide a modicum of due process. It's not to the level of a full panoply of due process protections that might be available in a criminal proceeding, but some due process must be provided. Due process isn't limited to criminal matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 02:43 PM |
| 1 | The case against affirmative consent laws.The way in which it is determined he broke the rules is the problem. "Affirmative consent" laws/rules/policies don't provide adequate due process protections --- they provide no due process at all. that's why the issue is of constitutional dimension. I suppose it will probably go the way of family law decisions. Federal courts have not wanted to get involved in family law matters, saying that the due process issues aren't significant enough to warrant constitutional discussion, and it's for the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Could most men have casual sex if they wanted to?I replied to the poster who said that men needed to put in work before they showed up, and women just had to be there and how I think that's utter bullshit. All a woman really needs to do is put on some makeup, wear some flattering clothes and do her hair. She doesn't need to be model beautiful or a size 0. She can be 20, 30, 50 pounds overweight. If she wants casual sex, she can get that. A man? Here's what he has to do. --go to college/trade school so he can get a job making decent money --get… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 01:47 PM |
| 2 | Could most men have casual sex if they wanted to?I get that women put a lot of effort into "self care", i.e. looking good. Women have many many MANY more opportunities for casual sex. Anytime a woman just wants to get laid, she can make that happen THAT DAY. She is practically GUARANTEED sex from a man she finds at least minimally attractive THAT DAY. Men -- not so much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/16 01:26 PM |
| 5 | If your LTR/wife/plate slapped you or began to attack you, would you hit back?No second chances with woman who slaps/hits/attacks physically. None whatsoever. Immediately dump any LTR or plate. With a wife, file for divorce and seek a restraining order/order of protection. If at all possible, get a court order requiring her to vacate the marital home. Testify under oath or swear out an affidavit stating the facts, she attacked you, and you reasonably fear for your own physical safety. | /r/askTRP | 02/08/16 01:05 PM |
| 2 | Don't do trades -- Never settle for transactional sexA woman can be sexually attracted without emotional intimacy, and vice versa. An important point that Red Pill men must internalize. A woman can feel very emotionally intimate with you and have a pussy as dry as the Sahara Desert. Her emotional intimacy with you will not lead to sexual attraction and will not cause her to be sexually attracted. Most importantly, her emotional closeness to you will not create sexual attraction where it doesn't exist. Sexual attraction either is there, or it isn't… | /r/TheRedPill | 02/08/16 12:55 PM |
| 1 | Advising mom verifies TRP truthsGood advice from mom. I won't talk shit about your mom. But I will say AWALT, and your mom's a woman. My mom is Like That, just like AWALT. I honestly don't know about my mom and, ahem, other men she, ahem, dated. I do know my own mom is neurotic, anxious, controlling, self-centered, ungrateful, demanding, and would throw her own husband and children under the bus to save her own skin. So, take it for what it's worth, OP. Your mom is a woman, and All Women Are Like That. | /r/TheRedPill | 02/08/16 12:48 PM |
| 1 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?I'm sure you'll be just fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?The flaw in your reasoning is your assertion that anecdotal evidence (literally thousands of individual anecdotes comprised of similar events) is not evidence. It is evidence. You don't like it or believe it. That doesn't mean the evidence is flawed or that it isn't evidence, and it doesn't mean that AFBB is "baseless". It isn't baseless. It is supported with anecdotal evidence. AFBB is not a claim made "without evidence". Again: the fact that you don't like the evidence or dont' agree with the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why is it difficult to understand that when women have sex, it's contextual?Great. Tell your BP friends that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 08:37 PM |
| 0 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?How can you say that the younger and more experienced an woman is, the better her options are? Source? Evidence? Come on. Really? First: a woman who's 18-21 is an SMP rockstar. She can get ANYTHING she wants. No, she won't get a 35 year old successful man. She DOES NOT WANT a 35 year old successful man. She wants a 25 year old successful man who is on his way up, earning money, with a fit body, cool hobbies, and socially adept. She also doesn't want to get married at that point. It's only when s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 08:35 PM |
| 12 | Don't do trades -- Never settle for transactional sexStrangely enough, if some of these men would get off the internet and really go their own way, and live life on their terms, that might actually increase their sexual attractiveness. | /r/TheRedPill | 01/08/16 08:22 PM |
| 2 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?You're never going to believe anything TRP says, so it's pointless. YOu have your own biases which blind you to it, so it really doesn't matter. I don't believe your bald, evidence-less claim that "AFBB doesn't exist because I've never seen it or don't see it too much". Your nonexistent "Evidence" consisting solely and only of your own personal experience isn't credible in the least. EDIT: TRP's evidence is valid evidence. It's just that you, a negatively biased person, find it not credible, bec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 08:17 PM |
| 2 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?The ability of a woman to attract attractive/high value men decreases as she ages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 08:03 PM |
| 1 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?I don't consider it evidence enough to believe such claims. "I don't believe your evidence" is not "Your evidence is not credible". You have your own selection and confirmation biases. You are never going to believe any claims TRP makes, any assertions it puts forth, anything it says. You have already decided TRP isn't credible. You are already biased against it and its claims. But if we are talking about people who share their personal experiences online, no one has an accurate view. Then your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 08:02 PM |
| 27 | Don't do trades -- Never settle for transactional sexYes, but it used to be that MGTOW was comprised of men who really were going their own way and having relationships on their terms, including relationships with women. They were men who could get with women, but didn't have relationships except on their own terms. the MGTOW banner has been almost completely coopted and subverted by --Omegas who can't get laid no matter what work they put in --Omegas who tried to improve and still can't get laid --Omegas who cant or wont put in the work to improv… | /r/TheRedPill | 01/08/16 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?It doesn't matter who she wanted to marry, or whether she wanted to marry any of the prior men, all of them or none of them. What matters is that she was sexually attracted to them, and is NOT sexually attracted to the beta bux she's settling for. If a woman is getting set to marry guy no. 21, it's a good bet that's because she couldn't get guys 1-20 to give her any modicum of commitment, or she picks shitty guys. So she's marrying guy no. 21 because he is the best she can do. If she could have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 07:51 PM |
| 3 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?GF is perfect Ain't no such thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?So the stories on TRP really don't convince me of much. Like I said, "I don't like your evidence" is not "You have no evidence". And even if it wasn't, no one really have a good overview of the general population False. If that were true, then no one could ever draw any conclusions from CDC data, studies, or anything else. If that were true, then the fields of law, economics, medicine, and every social science, are completely meaningless and should be given absolutely no credence whatsoever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why is it difficult to understand that when women have sex, it's contextual?AWALT is a revelation to many men that women are human beings; that women are flawed and make mistakes and aren't perfect -- just like men. Most of these men have been taught since birth that girls and women exist on a higher moral, material and spiritual plane. Most men washing up at TRP have lived their whole lives being taught: --women are perfect angels who never ever mistreat anyone --women do not lie about anything, ever, and especially don't lie about sex or love or rape --women are bette… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why is it difficult to understand that when women have sex, it's contextual?It's not a philosophy. It's a heuristic based on observation. Women don't say "all men are pigs" when they're annoyed. They say it because a man/men in their lives aren't doing/being/giving them what they want, or because they want sex. Let me explain it to you this way. All men have it in them to be pigs. All men are pigs sometimes. Some men are pigs all the time. All women have it in them to be x. All women are/do x sometimes. Some women are/do x all the time. Capiche? Got it now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 07:12 PM |
| 5 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?There's more to it than "she had sex with another man before me". There's "she treats me like shit." There's "she openly says shit to me like 'I'm not sexually attracted to you, but I was to the men I had sex with before'." There's "she was 28 and openly agitating to get pregnant." There's "she had sex with 20 men before me." You're exaggerating. Ridiculously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 06:58 PM |
| 1 | Purplepill Perspectives On When To Inform Friends About "Possible" Cheating? (r/relationships x-post)Sure. Tell his friend what he saw. Who's moralizing anything? Her conduct looks like cheating. If it looks like cheating, appears to be cheating, acts like cheating.... I'm just sayin'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why is it difficult to understand that when women have sex, it's contextual?Because it's shorthand. Easy to understand language for a universal concept. Kind of like when women say "all men are pigs." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 06:49 PM |
| 3 | Purplepill Perspectives On When To Inform Friends About "Possible" Cheating? (r/relationships x-post)100% agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 06:24 PM |
| 3 | Purplepill Perspectives On When To Inform Friends About "Possible" Cheating? (r/relationships x-post)IF they're not in a poly relationship, then Mary was sneaking around behind her BF's back. Cheating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 06:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why is it difficult to understand that when women have sex, it's contextual?All women have it in them to act in certain ways. That is all AWALT means. AWALT does not mean "all women act like X, all the time, every time". It means "all women have it in them to act like X. Some women do/are X all the time. All women do/are X sometimes." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Don't do trades -- Never settle for transactional sexAnd sex is about power. | /r/TheRedPill | 01/08/16 06:03 PM |
| 2 | Purplepill Perspectives On When To Inform Friends About "Possible" Cheating? (r/relationships x-post)LOL OK. Whatever helps you sleep at night. Her conduct is cheating. Full stop. End of discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 06:02 PM |
| 2 | Purplepill Perspectives On When To Inform Friends About "Possible" Cheating? (r/relationships x-post)LOL hahahahaha Most women in this country would consider that cheating, and divorce/break up over it. Your claim that her conduct isn't cheating is your hamster revving up the wheel at a million RPMs. That's patently ridiculous. No woman would EVER tolerate that shit in her man. EVER. She'd cut his balls off and then divorce him. In that order. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 06:00 PM |
| 2 | Purplepill Perspectives On When To Inform Friends About "Possible" Cheating? (r/relationships x-post)He should tell his friend (Mary's BF) and let the chips fall where they may. It's on Mary to explain it. Your answer is a total nonsequitur. Answer the question: Doesn't Mary's behavior look like cheating? If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and acts like a duck..... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 05:58 PM |
| 2 | Purplepill Perspectives On When To Inform Friends About "Possible" Cheating? (r/relationships x-post)Of course it wouldn't be considered cheating to you. So.... you'd be totally copacetic with your man/partner out and about, getting drunk with someone he might be attracted to, flirting with her, and letting her feel him up? That's cool with you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Purplepill Perspectives On When To Inform Friends About "Possible" Cheating? (r/relationships x-post)You think your average man will be ok with his girl going out, getting drunk, and having other men paw her and feel her up? Seriously? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 05:45 PM |
| 2 | Purplepill Perspectives On When To Inform Friends About "Possible" Cheating? (r/relationships x-post)What I do, don't do, did or didn't do is totally irrelevant to anything here. It's about his expectations for her. And I very, very much doubt he was OK with another guy pawing his girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 05:34 PM |
| 2 | Purplepill Perspectives On When To Inform Friends About "Possible" Cheating? (r/relationships x-post)yup. It's also about the fact that it's quite likely Mary's BF didn't know about Mary being out and getting pawed by another guy; she was clearly more dressed up for the other guy than she was for her BF; and pretty well blitzed. Dollars to donuts Mary's BF didn't know about the guy or her night out with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 05:30 PM |
| 2 | Purplepill Perspectives On When To Inform Friends About "Possible" Cheating? (r/relationships x-post)how is her being out at a club with another guy with his hands all over her.... how is that not cheating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 05:22 PM |
| 2 | Purplepill Perspectives On When To Inform Friends About "Possible" Cheating? (r/relationships x-post)Uh, how is her being out at the club with another guy putting his hands all over her anything OTHER than cheating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 05:21 PM |
| 2 | The Heavyweight Champion of the WorldSomething else you missed in the movie is how Rocky deals with Adrian. He's very Red Pill with her. He comes to the pet shop to see her, a kid sister of his friend Paulie. He is persistent and doesn't give up. He takes her ice skating, something that didn't cost much and that requires them to talk to each other and interact. He doesn't drop tons of cash on her on dinner. When he invites her in to his apartment after the date, he takes off his shirt and is wearing a wife-beater, showing off his m… | /r/TheRedPill | 01/08/16 05:05 PM |
| 5 | The Heavyweight Champion of the WorldIn the mid 70s when Rocky was made, society was juuuuust beginning to feel solid effects from the sex rev. It was still very much culturally and institutionally appropriate and evidentially sound to advise "the nice guy still wins in the end". Rocky (i.e. the movie and the cultural/relational messages it advocated) wasn't so much Blue Pill as it was to present the image of "basically good guy underdog with a heart of gold, working hard and chasing his dream. If you are those things, you'll win o… | /r/TheRedPill | 01/08/16 04:56 PM |
| 105 | Don't do trades -- Never settle for transactional sexSociety has been completely reordered and reengineered to prevent men from weaponizing commitment. In the US today, if you're married and have a kid or two with a woman, you are effectively barred from "weaponizing" commitment. In fact, withholding commitment for ANY reason, including her poor treatment of you, is "abuse". Threaten divorce because she's treating you like shit? verbal/emotional abuse. Stop working or work less because she's a fucking bitch? Financial abuse. Control her spending b… | /r/TheRedPill | 01/08/16 04:42 PM |
| 3 | Could most men have casual sex if they wanted to?OK. Glad to hear that's your experience. Unfortunately, "your experience" carries no more weight than anyone else's experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 04:36 PM |
| 3 | Could most men have casual sex if they wanted to?First guy: Not a chance. Second guy: No. Third guy: Yeah, he probably could, with a total slut who's feeling particularly self-esteem challenged that day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 04:15 PM |
| 1 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?I ask the question because I want to know the factual basis for the response utigers gave. I'd like to know particularly her basis for the claim that a beta bux getting into a relationship with a woman for whom he is the 15th or 20th choice, for whom she's clearly "settled", is "good relationship with regular sex". How does she know this? Based on what facts? Or is she speculating and conjecturing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 04:13 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: Why is it difficult to understand that when women have sex, it's contextual?Your sole experience =| all women's experience all the time, everywhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 04:11 PM |
| 2 | Purplepill Perspectives On When To Inform Friends About "Possible" Cheating? (r/relationships x-post)Nope. What "reaction" will she have to "I saw you drunk with other guys and he was feeling you up all over the place"? What's she going to say? And who cares? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 04:00 PM |
| 9 | Could most men have casual sex if they wanted to?Not for average guys it's not . Average guys in college don't get ONSs. They can get relationship sex. They can get sex if they agree to be "boyfriends" and exclusive. They don't get one nighters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 03:57 PM |
| 7 | Could most men have casual sex if they wanted to?Casual sex is common, but it's not common for average men. Remember: We're talking about plain old average guys. Those guys get relationship sex. Fucking girls within a couple of days of meeting is player sex. Plain old average guys don't get player sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 03:55 PM |
| 6 | Could most men have casual sex if they wanted to?Guys you hung out with in college =| most average men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 03:51 PM |
| 2 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?No evidence for AFBB? There is a literal mountain of evidence on TRP and the larger manosphere for it. Anecdotal, yes. But it's more than what you've presented. Anecdotal evidence is evidence. It's not "no" evidence. "I don't like your evidence" is not "You have no evidence". You don't see AFBB happening in real life because you don't know what to look for and because women actively conceal it. As I remember, you're not even 25 years old yet, have had one serious relationship before the one you'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 03:47 PM |
| 1 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?You're not mirroring anything I present. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 03:41 PM |
| 1 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?Wow. Just... wow. Good luck finding a man willing to deal with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 03:39 PM |
| 1 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?So if you care quite a bit about a man, will you divulge your sexual history to him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?Don't you care about the effect your past has on the men you get into relationships with? Do you really have so little regard for them and their well-being? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?But see, that's just it. If you get into a relationship with a man, he WILL have to deal with the consequences of your good and bad decisions. Including your past good and bad decisions. Including your past N, your past sex partners, all of it. Your past makes up who and what you are, including the men you had sex and relationships with in the past. That always colors, shapes, and influences your present. Always. It's unavoidable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 03:17 PM |
| 2 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?I understand that too. If you don't want to disclose your N or your past sexual history, that's your right. Men don't have to accept that. Moreover, N/sexual history become an issue only when YOU are asking for ever-increasing amounts of investment and commitment from HIM. Individual men can have whatever criteria they want. Most men, though, want to know the history of the woman who's demanding investment and commitment. I, for one, want to know what I'll be getting in return for that investmen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 03:10 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Male love is more pure.I said "male love is premised on who she is" to contrast it with the statement on what female "Love" is. Males love women for who they are, specifically who they are to him. He loves her presence in his life. She is sweet, fresh, optimistic, carefree, kind, pretty, and good-natured (at least ideally she is these things). He loves her for being those things. He wants those things she represents in his life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 03:04 PM |
| 2 | What percentage of core red pill teachings do you think are correct?It has a little to do with the insecurity of the boyfriend. It has much, much more to do with all the things I mentioned -- time, circumstances, right man who pushes all her buttons, and she won't get caught. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 02:59 PM |
| 3 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?Most men want to know about their women's past sexual histories. I do. I'm being asked to commit and invest everything I am, all my money, time and resources. I'm being asked to commit my entire life. I have a right to know who is asking me to do that. I have a right to know what I'm investing in and committing to. Would you purchase a used car without knowing its history? Would you hire an employee without knowing his past work and employment history? Would you loan money to someone without kno… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 02:56 PM |
| 2 | What percentage of core red pill teachings do you think are correct?all women will cheat if: Right man, right time, right circumstances, low risk of detection, and her current man is foundering or failing in some major way. All women have their price. I don't care what her "morals" are. Morals go by the wayside when faced with the almighty tingle. She meets the right man, she's horny, she won't get caught, her ovulation cycle is on the upswing, and her husband is depressed or porking out -- she'll cheat. I've seen pastor's wives raised Christian all their lives … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 02:46 PM |
| -1 | CMV: Male love is more pure.Well, nice is important. But only with a girl who's physically attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 02:35 PM |
| 2 | So she called police todayThough I wouldn't counsel him to break the law, I might counsel him to record anyway even if it's not one party consent. Which would you rather have, a felony conviction for assault, battery, or rape; or a misdemeanor charge for eavesdropping which you can plead down to a lesser included offense? I know which one I'd rather have, particularly since you can make an arguable self-defense case for the eavesdropping charge. | /r/askMRP | 01/08/16 02:22 PM |
| 3 | So she called police todayYou did very well. Don't leave the house. Be polite and respectful to police. Don't get physical with your wife. You are wise to bring this to a conclusion now. See the lawyer, get a separation agreement drawn up. Get her to leave the house if at all possible. Don't ever be alone with her again, ever. Ask for an order of protection against her. Lay it out for the lawyer and if possible, the court. She is mentally unstable and abusive. She called police to the house for no reason, causing domesti… | /r/askMRP | 01/08/16 02:19 PM |
| 3 | Could most men have casual sex if they wanted to?Yup. You have to have the genetics for it. Otherwise, you'll have to be one of those guys who brings "other things" so you can get a relationship. Casual sex is reserved only for the hottest guys, the top 20%, because they have the genetics and the disposition for it. And it isn't just "movie star handsome". You have to have the right body, right hair, right personality, right teeth, right everything. If anything about you -- anything AT ALL -- is not on point, you lose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 01:52 PM |
| 1 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?Oh yeah. Robert Palmer died of a heart attack in 2003. Only 54 years old. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 01:51 PM |
| 9 | Could most men have casual sex if they wanted to?It's not because they won't get fit, clean up or do all that other shit. It's because they don't have the genetic makeup to be physically attractive. Only around 20% of men meet those criteria. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 01:47 PM |
| 1 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?I don't know. Keith Richards is in a class by himself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 01:46 PM |
| 1 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?Those English blokes all look the same to you, eh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 01:41 PM |
| 1 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?That was Nick Lowe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 01:35 PM |
| 2 | Women slut shame the most, yet men are scolded for itThere is no such thing as slut shaming in American society anymore. Women can do anything they want, anywhere, any time, with anyone. They can say anything they want, anywhere, any time, to anyone. Women can fuck 100 guys if they want. No one has any right to say anything about it. She can demand commitment from a man and get it, even if she has fucked 100 guys. Most women who act like sluts will still walk down the aisle of churches in white dresses, like respectable women, despite the fact tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 01:33 PM |
| 1 | Women slut shame the most, yet men are scolded for itWhat is this slut shaming thing people keep talking about? There is no such thing as slut shaming in American society anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 01:29 PM |
| 13 | Could most men have casual sex if they wanted to?Most men can fuck an average girl, a 5 or 6, within 48 hours of first meeting? I'm sorry, that's just... insane. Absurd. Doesn't exist in any known realm of reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 01:26 PM |
| 2 | Could most men have casual sex if they wanted to?No. Maybe around 20% of men could have sex in conditions like this. What limits it is the "sex within 48 hours of first meeting". Even uglos and fatties won't slut around with some average dude and give up sex within 48 hours of first meeting. He has to be very physically attractive for her to give up sex that fast, even if she's an uglo or fatty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 01:25 PM |
| 2 | What percentage of core red pill teachings do you think are correct?Hypergamy: 100% true, all the time, without fail. Briffault's law: True AFBB: Like the John 3:16 of TRP. Every Red Pill man understands AFBB. You become beta bux in a marriage, at the very least your wife will be miserable and thus YOU will be miserable. Branch Swinging: True, more or less. I've seen it happen, but I don't think it happens all the time or every time. AWALT: True. All women have it in them to act in certain ways. ALL women are like that sometimes. Some women are like that all the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 01:19 PM |
| -1 | CMV: Male love is more pure.Male love is different from the way female love is. Male love is premised on who she is. Female love is premised on what he does for her, what he gives her, and most importantly, how his presence in her life makes her feel. It's actually not even love. Female "love" is really just super-duper respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 01:09 PM |
| 5 | Q4ALL: Why is it difficult to understand that when women have sex, it's contextual?To follow up on what archwinger was saying: Men are conditioned in today's society that once you get into a relationship, the woman sets all the terms of that relationship. She decides what the relationship looks like and what each person's roles are. She decides how often sex will happen, under what circumstances, what kinds of sex she will have, what she will do, and how she will do it. And the man simply has to accept all this. The woman's very presence is dread. The essence of a woman's powe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 01:07 PM |
| 3 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?What I disagree with is that this phenomenon is characteristic of most people. I feel like its prevalence is overemphasized by men Source? Evidence? Factual basis? You "feel like" its prevalence is overemphasized. "FEEL LIKE". So you really don't have evidence; it's just a "feeling" you have. It's just an "emotion". "good relationship with regular sex" Please state your factual basis/source/evidence for this claim. How do you know this? No. It's a barely adequate relationship in which she makes … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 12:59 PM |
| 2 | Do you think AF/BB doesn't happen? or it doesn't matter that it happens?But priorities change as you grow up and experience relationships as well. Things that you think matter start to matter less, and other things matter more. Translation: "I couldn't get a sexy guy to commit to me, so "sexy" isn't important anymore. No, now I've decided I want marriage and kids, because I want respectability and stability, whereas before I was looking to have a good time and get drunk, get high, party, and get laid." I don't know that very many women date bad boys in their youth j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/16 12:58 PM |
| 3 | Why is it hard to accept that your sexual behavior might be different than your normal behavior?And you hold forth on TRP and "compare" TRP to "normal" sexual conduct? Ooooooookaaaaay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/16 01:19 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Slut-shaming is a hangover from history, and not innate. Men have no innate hatred of promiscuous women.sigh. Ok. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/16 04:31 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Slut-shaming is a hangover from history, and not innate. Men have no innate hatred of promiscuous women.It is precisely relevant. You're saying "men do it too" to justify women's bad conduct. I get that women don't want to fuck unattractive men. That's kind of why TRP and the manosphere exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/16 04:06 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Slut-shaming is a hangover from history, and not innate. Men have no innate hatred of promiscuous women.Maybe. So what? Oh well oh well oh well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/16 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Recent female college grad discusses how many females really feel about modern day hookup culture.That, and at the end of the day, it makes everyone happier and more productive. Also, when you constrain women's sexual interests and promote men's sexual interests, it's called building civilization. Every time you unleash women to pursue their own sexual interests, you get chaos and a breakdown of civilization. Roman history bears this out. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/07/16 03:56 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Slut-shaming is a hangover from history, and not innate. Men have no innate hatred of promiscuous women.Agree that men don't have any innate hatred of promiscuous women. Men will have sex with sluts all day long. Men just don't want to commit to, invest in, or marry sluts. That's all. But today, a man's reluctance to invest in, commit to or marry sluts is considered "hatred". So in today's parlance, men "hate" sluts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/16 03:16 PM |
| 1 | Recent female college grad discusses how many females really feel about modern day hookup culture.It's nothing that hasn't been said before, just in different ways. Roissy said years ago: Five minutes of alpha beats five years of beta Was true then. It's even more true now. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/07/16 02:38 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Slut-shaming is a hangover from history, and not innate. Men have no innate hatred of promiscuous women.The one quote is reflective of women's and society's true thinking on this. This quote is used so much because --it sums up the mindset so perfectly --the person making it is so prominent and powerful --it is so incredibly brazen and in-your-face | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/16 02:11 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Slut-shaming is a hangover from history, and not innate. Men have no innate hatred of promiscuous women.I disagree that slut shaming is a hangover from history. Slut shaming isn't even a thing anymore. Women participate in slutwalks, where they proudly proclaim their sluthood. Anyone who dares question what they're doing, why they're doing it, or whether it's a good idea to be a slut, is shouted down, hunted down, doxxed, ostracized, marginalized, their livelihoods and lives threatened. Women have sex with whoever they want, whenever and wherever they want, married or not. If married and unattract… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/16 01:49 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men care as much about the status of their sexual partners as women do.It's my reddit birthday. Even if she wants his money, she's less likely to get it in a split. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/16 01:31 PM |
| -1 | Is it wrong for married women to watch 50 shades?It's not wrong for a woman to read 50SoG. It's wrong for her to cuckold her man. If she reads the book and diddles herself, OK. That's akin to men jerking it to porn. If she reads the book and cuckolds her man, that's not OK. That's akin to men cheating on their wives after watching porn (except that the man watching porn is doing so precisely because he cannot cheat on his wife. If he could cheat, he wouldn't watch porn.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/16 01:30 PM |
| 26 | CMV: Men care as much about the status of their sexual partners as women do.No. Wrong. Men care more about whether the woman is hot. If she has status, fine. But she has to be hot. Prepubescent schoolboys wanted to have sex with teachers who are hot. There might be other attractive women around, but the hot teacher is the one he sees every day. As for other attractive women - out of sight, out of mind. EDIT: I have no idea where you're coming from with this notion of other attractive adult women in roles other than teaching at schools. Where I went to school we had the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/16 01:26 PM |
| 0 | Can men and women be friends if they are sexually attracted to each other?Don't know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 08:49 PM |
| 0 | Can men and women be friends if they are sexually attracted to each other?Because it always happens that one is attracted to the other, when the other isn't. Or one is more attracted than the other. That leads to awkward uncomfortable conversations when the attraction is expressed. That leads to friendzoning when it's not reciprocated. That in turn leads to hurt feelings, distancing, less contact, and the ultimate end of the friendship. Or let's say they're both attracted to each other. They can't ignore the attraction, so they hook up one drunken night. One of them c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 08:34 PM |
| 0 | Can men and women be friends if they are sexually attracted to each other?No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Looks are the most important thing in men, by farSorry your Google is broken. Mommy Hairdos | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 08:16 PM |
| 3 | Recent female college grad discusses how many females really feel about modern day hookup culture.For men, part of being "attractive" is being interesting and planning fun shit to do. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/07/16 08:08 PM |
| 5 | Looks are the most important thing in men, by far"But she's so SMART!" She's a ballbusting bitch. "But she's so NICE!" She's fat with a mommydo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 08:07 PM |
| 3 | Looks are the most important thing in men, by farMen are told their entire lives by women that "looks aren't all that important, it's what's on the inside that counts, we don't really care all that much what you look like, it's how you treat us that's important" etc. etc. When men watch women go for the musclebound jocks, we're told "but you have so many GOOD qualities, you don't need to look good". Compound that with the fact that a lot of average guys get some sex, and get some girlfriends. That's why a lot of guys don't put a lot of effort … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 08:05 PM |
| 2 | She was married once, peruse or abort?"Hey. How's the waitressing biz? "I'll be at [x place] at [y date/time]. Come meet up" Pick something you'd be doing anyway, and invite her to join you. | /r/askTRP | 29/07/16 07:54 PM |
| 2 | Looks are the most important thing in men, by farA few of you get it. A goodly portion of you don't... that's why it's "but she's so NICE!!" and "love me for my brain" and "I'm so accomplished." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 07:52 PM |
| 3 | Looks are the most important thing in men, by farWhat do you mean? I think most women don't really understand how important their physical attractiveness is to men. They know men want hot chicks. They don't understand that physical attractiveness is like 85 to 90% of the equation to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 07:48 PM |
| 7 | She was married once, peruse or abort?Peruse. Plate only, assuming you get that far. Keep in mind she's already got a failed marriage. Also, a 25 year old woman throwing out IOIs to a 19 year old is looking for a validation fuck. She's not looking for anything serious here. Plate only. Double bag it. | /r/askTRP | 29/07/16 07:46 PM |
| 6 | Looks are the most important thing in men, by farBecause a lot of men overestimate their physical attractiveness. Because a lot of men underestimate the role of their own physical attractiveness in how they attract women. EDIT: As an aside, women are quite the opposite in some ways. Attractive women underestimate their own physical attractiveness. Unattractive women tend to overestimate their own physical attractiveness. Both attractive and unattractive women underestimate the role their own physical attractiveness plays in attracting men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 07:29 PM |
| 5 | Looks are the most important thing in men, by farCant' C your V, because I agree with it, mostly. Except for the "by far" part. I would say "looks are far more important in men than men believe they are" but that looks are not as important to women for men as they are to men for women. But male looks are becoming increasingly more important in the current sexual marketplace. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 07:11 PM |
| 27 | Recent female college grad discusses how many females really feel about modern day hookup culture.Yeah. It's not even "I'm entitled to male commitment!". It's "I'm entitled to whatever I want from that man, right now." Something else I just thought about is that the men described in these articles are men these women are hooking up with. So these are attractive men. Men with shit going on in their lives, men whose looks are more or less on point, men who are socially adept and professionally going places. Mostly it's men who are putting themselves out there. These articles aren't about Poind… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/07/16 06:25 PM |
| 2 | How to really gauge your OI, DGAF, need for validation: Have your wife dieYeah. Lot of guys are just done. They've said what they had to say, and then just take off. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/07/16 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Why are the hottest women usually the more insecure and crazier/unstable?And there are TONS of 7s and 8s. They comprise a good 40% to 50% of the SMP. | /r/askTRP | 29/07/16 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How well does r/TheRedPill actually reflect Red Pill theory?Come on, man. Stop it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 05:39 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How well does r/TheRedPill actually reflect Red Pill theory?Who's circlejerking? You're the one coming here flinging all sorts of accusations at me after I responded to you very politely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 05:28 PM |
| 5 | Recent female college grad discusses how many females really feel about modern day hookup culture.But this isn't about good looking guys who can't get women to commit. This is about hookup culture. Good looking guys who hook up with women aren't about getting commitment; they're about avoiding commitment. It's women who are constantly complaining that attractive men they love fucking won't offer up "commitment". | /r/TheRedPill | 29/07/16 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How well does r/TheRedPill actually reflect Red Pill theory?I did back them up. You just don't like the responses or disagree. "I disagree with you" =\ "You're wrong". You also need to calm down. Accusing people of being "absolutely full of shit" is uncivil and a violation of the rules. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 05:25 PM |
| 0 | Q4RP: How well does r/TheRedPill actually reflect Red Pill theory?Sorry you're mad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 05:22 PM |
| 2 | Vasectomy DENIEDI read a manosphere post a few years ago about an unmarried man who couldn't get a physician to perform a vasectomy on him because he's not married. That man had a female friend pose as his wife so he could get a doctor to do the procedure. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/07/16 05:19 PM |
| 3 | Q4RP: How well does r/TheRedPill actually reflect Red Pill theory?Maybe you should read the link in my previous comment. EDIT: Here. Let me help you out. If you're BP and your relationships are working for you, then you don't need Red Pill. TRP is only for men who know something's wrong, are willing to admit that that "something wrong" is them, want to fix their relationship failures, and are willing to do the work. Happy now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 05:09 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: How well does r/TheRedPill actually reflect Red Pill theory?frequent TRPer claims that the redpill has completely mapped out the full range of human sexual instinct, There's no claim here that TRP is the only way to do sex, dating, mating and relationships. I certainly don't make that claim. Not everyone needs TRP. There are plenty of people out there who had OK upbringings and learned about how relationships and people work. Or they're just really really lucky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 04:56 PM |
| 24 | Recent female college grad discusses how many females really feel about modern day hookup culture.Yeah. The so-called "problem" outlined in the linked article would disappear overnight if women started fucking and marrying the men who are willing to marry them. Women don't like hooking up with men who don't commit? Then stop fucking those men. But they keep fucking those men. Know why? They'd rather hook up with and fuck attractive men with no relationship than have a relationship/marriage with an unattractive man. Men should aspire to be one of the attractive men the women hook up with and … | /r/TheRedPill | 29/07/16 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Divorce not related to financial strain but instead husband's employment status - BloombergMore science pouring in to confirm TRP. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/07/16 03:58 PM |
| 97 | Recent female college grad discusses how many females really feel about modern day hookup culture.It's a real conundrum. You read these articles which all say pretty much the same thing. There's a hookup culture. Women hook up to varying degrees. Most of them don't like it. They say they want relationships. They keep doing it even though they almost never get what they want from it. They keep doing it because --they think they'll get a relationship out of a hookup --everyone else is doing it Everyone else might be doing it. But these women almost never convert their hookups to relationships.… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/07/16 03:53 PM |
| 1 | Nonverbal communicationHow do I define what? The feminine imperative? Here's Rollo Tomassi, who coined it. Essentially it is this. It is literally everything in society. Everything in society has been used, exploited, coopted, changed, and refitted so as to serve what women want, need, desire, and demand. Marriage. The workplace. Parenthood. Church. Politics. Religion. Government. Law. Medicine and the healthcare industry. The economy. Media. Leisure time. Retirement. Everything. It is really about how everything in s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 02:49 PM |
| 3 | Should I plate her?Moralizing is for women Yeah, but morals and integrity are for men. Moralizing is talking a good game about morals, but without owning one's own shit. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/07/16 02:43 PM |
| 2 | Should I plate her?Adultery is wrong from a religious/Judeo-Christian standpoint. But we're not here to talk about whether adultery is wrong. The sole questions Red Pill concerns itself with are whether a particular sexual strategy works, and whether it is an efficient/effective tool for a man to use to achieve a goal, whether that goal is validation, getting satisfying sex, whatever. Adultery is a sexual strategy that some men use to achieve goals. It has good consequences and bad consequences, just like every ot… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 29/07/16 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Nonverbal communicationWhat ISN'T made or coopted to serve the feminine imperative? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 02:28 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Who here has experienced the four year itch?Not to pry but did your wife immediately notice the change and panic? Not exactly. I didn't initially "show" anything. I did something that's really not recommended in MRP/TRP practice, and I wouldn't recommend anyone else do it. I told her that she couldn't treat me like shit anymore, and that she needed to stop doing it immediately, and if she didn't, then I was going to divorce her. Then she panicked. That's not recommended because I did it from the position of having done no self improvement… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Who here has experienced the four year itch?Not fully. I'm a work in progress. So is she. But it's much, much better. I don't just "say" I was misled and lied to. I WAS misled and lied to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 02:15 PM |
| 25 | Do women get oneitis too?Yes. It's called alpha widowhood. | /r/askTRP | 29/07/16 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Who here has experienced the four year itch?Yeah, around 4.5 years in. Wife really started treating me like shit. I don't know if she cheated (wouldn't be surprised one bit if she did) but looking back, the whole "four year itch" thing makes sense and explains her behavior. Our kid was about 1.5 years old; she was miserable in pretty much every way. She was taking care of an infant and breastfeeding, I was working all the time and gone frequently, she was getting no sleep, and I was at my omega worst. The more she complained, the harder I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 01:37 PM |
| 3 | CMV: "Slut shaming" women is actually treating women equal to men.There is no such thing as slut shaming women in the US. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/16 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Nonverbal communicationHeh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 10:50 PM |
| 0 | Nonverbal communicationBP (not r/thebluepill) is the feminine imperative, really . It's that everything must be made to serve the interests of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 10:35 PM |
| 6 | Q4BP Women - Those of you with men who started showing RP tendencies. What were your share of failings in the relationship?"abuse" has become: --expecting a wife to account to you for the money she spends --expecting a wife to follow a budget --not accounting to your wife for your whereabouts on demand --secretive behavior about your work --the "silent treatment" --expecting behavior of children --setting boundaries like "if you cheat I will divorce you" (Think about that. Having expectations of a wife is "abuse". Expecting things from your marriage is "abuse". Expecting certain behaviors of a wife is "abuse". Askin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 10:23 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: what is your idea of a fairy tale "happily ever after" type relationship and is it a feasible goal ?I never said never, but it's rare Source? Evidence? Factual basis? What you've seen isn't even remotely standard nor is does it make sense for most people, so I'd be willing to address it but not as a norm, because its not. Source? Evidence? Factual basis? You have no evidence that what you describe is the norm. Only your opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 09:37 PM |
| 1 | CMV: BPers have a strange, warped view on statisticsI didn't say the responses were meaningless. Just because I question how some of them happen or where, doesn't mean I find them all meaningless. Where is the rule that says I'm required to believe something someone says on the internet just because they said it? I'm routinely called a liar, crazy, out of the norm, for the things I say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 09:29 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP Women - Those of you with men who started showing RP tendencies. What were your share of failings in the relationship?It'd be nice if women would just take responsibility for their part in the end of a marriage or relationship instead of blaming the whole thing on him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 09:20 PM |
| 5 | Q4BP Women - Those of you with men who started showing RP tendencies. What were your share of failings in the relationship?How is criticizing opinions, shitting on your hobbies or insulting your friends RP? How is emotional "abuse" RP? A Red Pill man doesn't call his GF a dumb cunt to her face, even if she is a dumb cunt. He might laugh a little, but he doesn't emotionally abuse her. You're not describing a Red Pill man. You're not describing a man with options who has his shit together, is professionally excelling, and looks and feels good. You're describing an immature, insecure, beta/gamma asshole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 07:18 PM |
| 0 | CMV: BPers have a strange, warped view on statisticsThat's an ironic tack to take. On the thread where I asked about women getting approached/accosted, it was strongly insinuated that PPD women commenter's experiences are TRUTH and GOSPEL and that I Was Required To Believe Them Because Women Said They Happened And I Was Not Allowed To Question Any of It. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP Women - Those of you with men who started showing RP tendencies. What were your share of failings in the relationship?So under your scenario, what's best for men is MGTOW. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 07:02 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP Women - Those of you with men who started showing RP tendencies. What were your share of failings in the relationship?Yes, they would be benevolent and fair. Reasons? Oh, I don't know. Because it worked really really well for about 5000 years. Because it promotes the formation of families. Because it gives men something to work for, live for and care about. Because the trope of men dumping a frump wife for a hot secretary is massively overblown and almost never happened, mostly because most men couldn't fuck their hot secretaries or any other hot women outside of marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 06:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP Women - Those of you with men who started showing RP tendencies. What were your share of failings in the relationship?because it's not fair to men. Because women take advantage of it KNOWING FULL WELL it's not fair to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Nonverbal communicationIf it's not good for relationships to dwell in an "emotional life", then why do you think so many people tell men to share their feelings, learn to "communicate better", and talk incessantly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 06:47 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP Women - Those of you with men who started showing RP tendencies. What were your share of failings in the relationship?Of course what's best for women is to marry some schlub you're not attracted to, then stay with him for as long as you can stomach it, pop out your kid(s), establish the income stream, then leave him and divorce him, taking half of everything plus the kids plus alimony plus child support, then go back to having sex with more attractive men. Pretty much how it works now. Of course that's best for women. That's why it was enshrined into law. That's why women do it - because they can, and because t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 06:44 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP Women - Those of you with men who started showing RP tendencies. What were your share of failings in the relationship?Sorry about your aunt and uncle. I also had that -- an uncle and aunt close to me who went through a bitter, nasty divorce. They absolutely hated each other when it was over. They were both to blame. He never said bad shit about her; but she shittalked him every chance she got. A couple of women at my church growing up were divorced. Same story -- he's a shitbag loser; drunk no account layabout shiftless no good very bad man. Never once did I ever hear any of them say "you know, there were some … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 06:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women have more opportunities to cheat than men. Women avoid conflict more than men.I disagree with this: Women are also more prone to avoid conflict. If a woman is not happy in the relationship, she is more likely to cheat than to confront her unhappiness head on and break up. I don't think this is always true. I think some women will cheat, then divorce. Divorce is too easy to get; alimony and child support are too easy to get, the free money gravy train coupled with freedom to hop back on the cougar carousel is too tantalizing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP Women - Those of you with men who started showing RP tendencies. What were your share of failings in the relationship?Why should a man suffer sexual deprivation later in life so you can have a kid? So the sexual strategy for men is to opt out of the game entirely if their goals can be realized only at the expense of yours? Oh... MGTOW... Wait a minute.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 06:35 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP Women - Those of you with men who started showing RP tendencies. What were your share of failings in the relationship?It can be overcome. Incels are told here to overcome their basic sex drive. It can't be sated through sex, so they're told to just overcome it and deal with it. Same with childfree women, or women who don't ever want to face up to their lack of/loss of attraction for their husbands, which you say is unavoidable anyway. BTW, it's not lowered sex drives. It's lowered attraction. These women's sex drives are just fine. Put them next to Brad Pitt or Channing Tatum, and you'll find out how well their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 06:32 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP Women - Those of you with men who started showing RP tendencies. What were your share of failings in the relationship?1 Don't get married and don't have children. You don't need status and stability; you have your job. The child rearing problem is solved by not having any. 2 Don't marry. Have sex with men you're attracted to. Work your job and career. 3 Society isn't 100% monogamous. Never has been, never will be. You won't be paired with an attractive man because you're doing 1. and 2. That's what most women really want anyway. 4 No it won't. The women paired with the top 20% don't lose attraction. They realiz… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 06:27 PM |
| 2 | Nonverbal communicationthen you work/live/are friends with some very rude and inconsiderate people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 06:20 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP Women - Those of you with men who started showing RP tendencies. What were your share of failings in the relationship?It's not sex drives taking a dive. It's their facing up to the fact that they were never attracted to their husbands in the first place; or what little attraction they had is gone because the stove broke or he gained 10 pounds or he left the cap off the toothpaste tube or he got her Fannie Mae candy instead of Whitman's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 06:19 PM |
| 2 | Nonverbal communicationI find it very hard to believe people wear makeup because they don't want to be asked about their physical condition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 06:12 PM |
| 0 | Nonverbal communicationNo it's not all the time with me. I was telling you what BP says about communication in relationships, which is men need to talk about everything all the time. Why is it good for your fiancé not to talk about wondering about his thinning hair, his daddy issues, or his physical strength? What does the delivery guy story have to do with when it is counterproductive to talk about things? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: What's the worst way a woman has ever mistreated you?I'm not here to give benefits of doubts; nor to receive them. I don't expect them. I've never been given any. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: What's the worst way a woman has ever mistreated you?I really don't understand your issue with this. If the guy is a customer, at least in the US, there's a duty under federal and most state laws to confront the guy and either tell him to stop it or isolate him from the object of the harassment. There are entire departments in companies large and small devoted to handling these kinds of problems. Ever heard of a human resources department? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Nonverbal communicationOK. She comes at a lot of things from the BP perspective though. I'd still like to hear someone's perspective on this, if not hers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP Women - Those of you with men who started showing RP tendencies. What were your share of failings in the relationship?I think this is best demonstrated through the "former spouse abusive treadmill." I have never met a divorced woman who would own up to her part of the problems. Every divorced woman I've ever met was married to a shitbag douchebag asshole, the worst man who ever walked the face of the earth, Hitler x1000. The man was worthless, couldn't do ANYTHING right. She was a perfect angel who tried and did everything humanly possible to save the marriage. If only he had been willing to work with her. If o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: What's the worst way a woman has ever mistreated you?I believe it happens an infinitesimally small amount of time. I believe it isn't more frequent than I believed previously. I believe it is concentrated in urban, densely populated areas where there is more hustle and bustle than in the sticks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Nonverbal communicationWhen can it be counterproductive to talk about things? This is quite a departure from BP gospel, which is "share your feelings" and "learn to communicate better" and "men need to talk about everything all the time" and "if men would just learn to communicate better, it would solve all your relationship problems." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 05:49 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: What's the worst way a woman has ever mistreated you?First, the story I was referring to in the link DID happen in an office. She was working in an insurance office. Second, that they were customers isn't germane to anything. It was presented as something that happens all the time. I don't believe it does. Third -- if this really is happening, they should report it. If it's "normal", then why are they complaining about it? They're not complaining about it because it's not normal, it's not commonplace, it's not pervasive or widespread, and it's not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 05:46 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: what is your idea of a fairy tale "happily ever after" type relationship and is it a feasible goal ?Repeating your claim doesn't make it more convincing. Look, let's just leave it here and agree to disagree. We won't change each other's minds, but at least we both understand where the other is coming from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 05:44 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: What's the worst way a woman has ever mistreated you?Dude: in 2016, men do not comment on women's tits in an office setting. They just don't. Men just do not say shit like "bet you have problems getting bras that fit" to women in offices. You get the cops called on you. You lose your job. You suffer social and professional ostracism. You will have about six white knights stomping your guts out. I have worked in offices for more than 20 years. Trust me: If I said something like that ANYWHERE, to ANYONE in ANY office anywhere in the world, it would … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: what is your idea of a fairy tale "happily ever after" type relationship and is it a feasible goal ?It fucking boggles my mind that women don't know about this. This is RAMPANT. Happens all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: what is your idea of a fairy tale "happily ever after" type relationship and is it a feasible goal ?In your magical mystery dreamworld, women never ever marry for any reason other than intense sexual attraction. Women are all sexually attracted to their husbands; and then something bad happens to cause her to lose attraction for him. It could never ever be that she's shitty or has baggage or has fucked up things in the marriage. It is always that he did something or changed, or "something just happened", to cause her to lose attraction for him. What I've seen is not that people start out attra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: what is your idea of a fairy tale "happily ever after" type relationship and is it a feasible goal ?Yes. I'm not speculating. These are facts based on observation by literally thousands on thousands of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: what is your idea of a fairy tale "happily ever after" type relationship and is it a feasible goal ?Women do this all the time. Women marry for all sorts of reasons other than "I really want to have sex with this guy". They marry because: --they think no one else will have them --they want a kid (Baby Rabies) --they are 30 or 35 or so and have decided that "it's time" to get married --they want the title of "Mrs." Being married is a huge status boost for a woman. --their friends are getting married --they don't want to be alone --they want to please their parents Many, many women I've known wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: what is your idea of a fairy tale "happily ever after" type relationship and is it a feasible goal ?1) The prime skill set for marriage is (a) attractiveness; and (b) willingness to compromise. Any moron can do willingness to compromise. Most women are attractive and can compromise a little. Most men compromise A LOT for marriage. But most men are not attractive. So you have lots and lots of women who have enough attractiveness to attract a not very attractive man for marriage, with him compromising much, MUCH more than she does. 2) Some women marry men they are not attracted to. Most women ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 05:16 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: What's the worst way a woman has ever mistreated you?We don't hate or blame all women for everything either. We just see women for who and what they are -- not the perfect little angels Blues told us they were. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 03:32 PM |
| 3 | Men who have difficulties with women and getting sexual relationships, what do you think are the reasons?There are things you can't do much about. Height and facial structure are the two big ones. That's why the advice is to lift. That changes something you can do something about. The advice I've seen over and over again to short men or balding men or men with poor facial structure is: GET A BODY. Lose fat, gain muscle. if you can change facial structure through surgery, do it, if you have the money and it's low risk. You can change a lot through hair styles, getting rid of glasses, fixing teeth, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Is men wanting to have sex with sluts than settling with a virgin another form of AF.BB?Of course men cheat. Of course most men will cheat if right time, right circumstances, right woman, low risk of detection, and if his wife/GF is shit. Most men don't cheat because they can't. They aren't sexually attractive enough to attract a woman for cheating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 02:59 PM |
| 2 | Is men wanting to have sex with sluts than settling with a virgin another form of AF.BB?Todd was from Canada. That was an incident of cyberbullying based on Todd's showing her breasts online and then being blackmailed. That's blackmail and underage porn, not slut shaming. She was not being "shamed" for having promiscuous sex with a lot of men. Thanks for playing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: What's the worst way a woman has ever mistreated you?You have not said it happens all the time everywhere. I have read other female commenters and posters at PPD saying they are literally bombarded with unwanted male attention literally all the time, everywhere. Can't leave their house without some guy waving his dick in their faces. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: what is your idea of a fairy tale "happily ever after" type relationship and is it a feasible goal ?There are scads on legions on regiments of men with skill sets for marriage. They're not married because they're not attractive enough to keep the interest of a woman. There are scads on legions on regiments of divorced men out there who had the skill sets at least to get married and make a baby or two with their ex wives. Why are all those men divorced? Because their wives just "didn't want to be married to them anymore". Because their wives either rweren't attracted to their husbands at all an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 02:35 PM |
| 3 | Is men wanting to have sex with sluts than settling with a virgin another form of AF.BB?"Men do it too" is not a justification. "Men, too" merely underscores the validity of my original argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 02:31 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: What's the worst way a woman has ever mistreated you?My perspective is this: Some female commenters at purple pill debate, who comprise about .000000001% of the female population, have had some pretty bad experiences with men the horror asking them out on dates in awkward, inappropriate ways. Even fewer of them have been assaulted in some pretty bad ways. I do not believe it is in any way representative of the female population at large. this does NOT happen "all the time" as claimed by women. It does NOT happen "everywhere" as claimed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 02:30 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: What's the worst way a woman has ever mistreated you?I didn't say "cat calling doesn't exist". I said it doesn't happen in the nature or to the extent claimed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: what is your idea of a fairy tale "happily ever after" type relationship and is it a feasible goal ?If these women are ending their marriages for reasons OTHER than lack of sexual attraction to their husbands, then what such reasons are there? Don't tell me "money issues". Women fuck hot unemployed men all the time. Don't tell me "incompatibility". Women fuck men they don't really like all that much all the time. Don't tell me "they just can't get along". Women fuck men they dont' get along with all the time. Don't tell me "fighting". Women fuck men they fight with all the time. All marital is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/16 02:16 PM |
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