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sunk cost fallacy For both parties, yes. did you know that a lot of women actually don’t want to date inexperienced guys Yeah… lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:27 AM
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Honestly I wouldn’t be upset. I am very practical and simply guy. If a group of people are statistically more likely to do something to me, it makes sense to be more worried and take extra steps to be carful. If men are more likely to molest(which is the case) I’m fine with it. I wish she wouldn’t lie to me about it though. It would only bother me if it stopped me from being a dad. Like my dad would take me to theme parks or movies when my mom was busy or didn’t want to do something. I would hat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:49 PM
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I’m sorry I didn’t understand the first paragraph. I don’t think that is good values though. There is things that hurts people doesn’t mean they have bad values? Are you saying I have bad values cause it saddens me if my future wife thinks of someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:25 PM
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Again this is where we differ. The idea that at any point my partner might think of someone else or miss something from someone else would break my heart. Just the thought of me missing my ex or missing a single thing of my ex when I’m dating someone or even worse married to someone… that would destroy me internally. I congratulate you for being strong enough to not care. I would definitely care
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:40 PM
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You are assuming they would be the worse for being their first. With time and patience anyone can gain that experience. All the experience that guy could have gained in past years he can gain with his partner. My whole argument is naive to believe you are your partners best, unless they are a virgin.. however I’m not saying you should be the worst and just stay that way. Let’s use a number ranking. There will be one person in your partners history that was 10/10 in any particular area. To assume…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:46 PM
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We may differ there. I don’t deny feeling special for being with someone for long periods of time. But I would definitely feel even more special being the only one. In terms of timing? I mean you could say the same thing about anything. You say you have been with your partner for a decade, he is likely not the only person you could have loved for a decade or longer. There could even be someone better out there for you that you haven’t met. In terms of the money analogy. I’m not saying that I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:58 PM
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do you think the person is robbed for their ability to feel special… To feel a level of special? No. To feel special as in you are the only one that has had this, absolutely. be their best sexual partner? I find this incredibly naive. The reality is that just because you marry someone it does not mean they are the best. Many people believes their ex partner were the one, and then out of nowhere that partner broke up with them. But emotionally, they truly did love them and believed they were the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:20 PM
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what ifs I don’t think there is anything wrong with that? I don’t know what you are trying to imply here It can definitely be for nothing. I’m doing it for my partner. If my future wife doesn’t care then it was for nothing. I could have been having fun all my years but sacrificed it for nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:56 PM
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That could be a strong possibility. But I would say that if she would rather be a more experienced.. she is probably more experienced which means she is not a virgin herself and would make her not someone I could marry. But even if she was, it would be a strong probability But I see what you are saying, you should forget about values and beliefs.. but rather look at it from a realistic perspective. Now I truly don’t know if most women would find a virgin guy unattractive. They certainly don’t fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:29 PM
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…. Okay to be honest I’m either autistic or idk.. When you say the right thing to do depends on the individual… yes… for some individuals it will be you should wait, for other it will be you shouldn’t wait. Ergo, you have two groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:26 PM
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? Doesn’t that personal thing fall into one of those groups? Like I’d assume we all fall into one of the two, you either think is important or not. By saying it’s a personal thing… yes.. it’s personal whether you fall into either of those groups
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:53 PM
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do it for yourself not for others? I wouldn’t stay a virgin for myself. I would rather have a bunch of sex and just find a virgin woman at the end how is would she know she is the best sexual partner? If I have not had any sex before, she is by default the best sexual partner I have had how do you miss sexual experiences? Maybe I am just crazy, but I feel like if I experience someone who is extremely talented at giving oral, if my future partner is so so, every now and then I might miss or remem…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:30 PM
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I’m so confused on your comment. Why am I reflecting on the psychological pay offs? Cause the whole point of this post was to show that is pointless to debate this topic cause people won’t change their mind cause that is to change their whole outlook in life
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:12 PM
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I see! Well I disagree, I think it’s totally fine and not hypocritical. I would only see is as hypocritical if they said everyone should be college educated while them being the exception. Saying “hey for me personally I want X” I don’t think is hypocritical but hey, at least you were consistent!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:48 AM
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I don’t see your point. So now we are moving away from the “there isn’t a difference” to none of that matters. It’s not actually physical experience? I’m confused I’m sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:46 AM
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Would you say the same the other way around? I went to college but want someone who didn’t, is that also hypocritical?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:22 AM
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Haha I would agree with that statement. It’s kind of like when someone or something tells you you need XYZ and then you work hard for XYZ and finally achieve that, but then you back to that someone or something and it’s not enough or doesn’t help you at all.. it feels very crappy. Please tell us exactly what we need.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 05:09 AM
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If I didn’t go to college but want someone who went to college is that hypothetical? If I went to work but want someone who doesn’t work, is it hypocritical ? If I haven’t dated anyone but want someone with experience is that hypocritical? If you say yes to those, that’s fine. You can have that opinion, at least it would be consistent. I just don’t see how those are hypocritical. And thank you! Happy to hear you didn’t regret it, hope i don’t either
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:45 AM
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And in my personal opinion, I congratulate you for your values and think you would be an amazing woman to whoever is lucky enough!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:34 AM
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Oh I would say the difference is a guy who can’t get laid is a guy who not only is missing the sexual experience, but probably missing any good romantic or relationship experiences. If he was never able to get laid, it means no woman ever wanted to get that far.. he probably has some deep issues. While if it’s a guy that could get laid but didn’t, that means is a guy who without sex was good enough to have a relationship and get girls to want to sleep with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:31 AM
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I agree with all but the last. I don’t think is hypocrite to want different things. I choose not to drink but want a wife that drinks. I choose not to spend money on myself but want a partner that spends money on herself. I chose not to go to college but I want someone who chose to go to college. I think it isn’t hypocritical but to each other own I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:22 AM
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I mean by definition virginity is just someone who hasn’t had sex… so I guess in that sense is as much as a social construct as the word new? I appreciate your thoughts. To me the biggest fear is the amount of desperation and sadness I would get from knowing my gf or wife has slept with someone else. I’ve had nightmares of this. You say disappointment? I’m not expecting much other than knowing I am the only one that has done this with her and makes me feel special and safe, hopefully she feels t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:20 AM
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I’m sorry?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:14 AM
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Exactly right. It’s useless to debate this or be upset about it. It is just easier to accept if someone’s cares or not about virginity
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 04:03 AM
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There really isn’t what sorry?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:56 AM
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In this two scenarios it definitely would be time wasted. Let’s imagine both points of views. From the point of view of a virgin. Let say he is 35 years old and he hasn’t found the one and he is being told virginity doesn’t matter. That means if he agrees to this.. he would have to face the fact the past 20 years of his life in which he could have been having sex and enjoying himself and exploring were wasted not having sex(I don’t mean wasted like they did absolutely nothing, but like in the se…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:48 AM
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I never said there was a problem with it haha. I’m saying that the whole debate is pointless cause this is an issue in which to change someone’s mind is to change their whole outlook in life and have them realize years of waiting or years of sleeping around were wasted
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:44 AM
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I’m very happy for your parents. I also think virginity doesn’t mean you will automatically be happy with your marriage, of course not. I’m simply saying that when anyone tries to debate this topic…. Is pretty useless cause to change someone’s mind is to change their whole outlook on life and make them realize a sad reality of themselves. So you said you choose to stay a virgin because of spirituality and sexual/reproductive health. It sounds like spirituality and sexual/reproductive health are …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:33 AM
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Very proud of you man! Keep your value up!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:29 AM
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When you said bank info like my routings number? I don’t know.. I don’t know if they could do some damage with that or not so I wouldn’t be able to answer that. are you a virgin?? I would 100% be comfortable with this. why am I having to justify this point so hard I don’t think you are. I mean I agree you shouldn’t open your statement like “hey! How are you? Are you a virgin?” Of course not. To even find out if someone is a virgin or not.. I would imagine you would have to get to know their pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:28 AM
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I’m very sorry… but isn’t this what I said at the very beginning? Like I made it clear and said “+ don’t shame those who didn’t do this(this being staying virgin)” you supposedly disagree with my first comment, yet I feel like you are describing exactly what I first commented. In terms of not judging your potential partner based on sex right off the bat. Can you tell me the difference between getting to know their personality, date, and once you find out they aren’t virgins and is a deal breaker…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:20 AM
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….no. I’m not saying there is an objective truth. I’m saying for virgins to admit virnigty is bad or doesn’t matter, it is to admit their entire time waiting for marriage has been a waste of time. And for people with high body count to admit virginity matters is to admit they have done wrong and have wasted time. I’m not ever saying one is objectively right. I’m saying to convince one group of the other side is to change their entire outlook of life and make them see a sad “reality” of their cur…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:13 AM
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According to Oxford, virginity is the state of never having sexual intercourse. Depending on your definition of virginity I guess males might not have virginity.. but if you use it like most people, which I would say is virginity= people who haven’t had sex, then yes a man can totally be a virgin. I don’t know what human import means, I’m sorry English isn’t my first language
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:11 AM
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I think there is a big difference with a man that can’t get laid and a man who can get laid and has refused. As I said, I had not 100s of opportunities but I have had a few, and have refused to them all. In terms of the orgasm he can learn. In terms of the security and entertainment.. I don’t think you need past sexual experience for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:08 AM
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It is a very personal matter, that is why I said neither group will ever change their mind. I think either could be wrong depending on their beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:05 AM
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I don’t think I ever said male virginity means shit. I said that most men here defending their beliefs of wanting a virgin wife are not even virgins themselves. I personally believe both virginities are very important. I wish women would specifically look for virgin men just how men look for virgin women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:03 AM
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Could you explain how you can say we need to move away from focusing on virginity and body count and also say it’s okay for people to focus their preferences on virginity and body count? I feel like to say we need to move past that, is to say we should not have those preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:58 AM
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22M/engineer/latino I care a lot about my family. I want my wife to be very involved with my family. If my parents don’t like her, it would be a huge problem for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:43 AM
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At least as a guy struggling, what do I want? To stop lying about what yall truly want. Maybe it’s just miscommunication but when I hear what someone “wants” it means to me that is what I need to be to become desirable. But if I fulfil those things and it doesn’t get me what I was told, then it upsets me. I feel like I have been lied to. I would say to stop pushing both men and women to have fun and push them towards making smart choices and working towards finding good partners Those are the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:41 AM
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As a guy, I truly don’t believe they are jealous. I think they are legit concerned and with good reasons. However, I think that concern can often blind people. Though it is true a relationship with a big age gap is easier to become unhealthy, it doesn’t mean it will. There is plenty of relationship where one partner is way younger and the relationship was always amazing. I know people hate when I mention my own experience… my parents, when they started dating my mom was 16 and my dad was 32. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:34 AM
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I understand that. But I feel like you are either saying accepting as in you should not care or have preferences over or vilifying… there is a middle ground. It’s not black and white. I want a virgin. I am a virgin myself. I am not religious. I just don’t want a girl with sexual experience. I don’t have to vilify sex to say I have a preference and believe people shouldn’t do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 02:04 AM
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I don’t know. I think the healthier thing would be for people to not have sex unless they are married or in a very long term relationship + don’t shame those who didn’t do this. We can have an agreement that something is better and have no shame towards those that fail to fulfill that. Example: it’s probably best to not smoke or vape, probably best to workout, probably best to focus on education… now you can do all the negatives of that and not be ashamed for it, and at the same time understand …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:55 AM
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I don’t think it’s an issue. The reality is that a lot of people like the idea of one partner staying at home. Two of my friends are married to very successful women. My friend is a stay home dad but at this point they are old enough he says doesn’t do much at home. I am full time employee but work from home often and allows me to like chill and play games during the day. Whenever it’s the middle of the morning or day and I want to chill and play games.. I know I can reach out to them and they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 10:26 PM
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I think you can be informed on a subject without living it. I’m not saying you will know the ins and outs of it all. However, a person that is dating can be wildly wrong about how dating works.. even when they have experienced it.. and a person who has never dated but has been very observant of the relationship around them and look into them.. might be more informed than many people who have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:43 PM
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Maybe cause I am a man but I still don’t get it. I think my issue is with the wording sexual object. To me when I hear someone say they are being sexualized as a sex object… I mean I don’t think anyone thinks of women as objects. Now they might not care about your feelings which is horrible, but people not care about other people’s feelings all the time, doesn’t make it objectifying
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 10:30 PM
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Sorry I thought it was since I do refuse to adopt unless is necessary. I thought you were talking about people who are not willing to adopt and rather have biological kids. I apologize
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:18 AM
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I want kids to show them love, to take care of them, to spoil them, to build them into awesome people and to give them a better life that I had. I don’t think I could raise another man’s child. Adoption, if I am infertile.. yes.. otherwise no
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:37 PM
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That is I think totally the point. While is true that a fuckboy will change for the right girl.. you being the right girl out of all the girls he talks to is very meniscal likeliness. Women should know that and be made aware of it.. otherwise they come out mad that he was a fuckboy and complain about it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 08:53 PM
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Oh 100% I’m not denying that. They definitely will when they find the right girl. I’m just saying from the girls point of view, 9/10 you won’t be that girl.. so why risk it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 12:00 PM
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I don’t think people disagree with this. But as a general rule I’d say someone who was a fuckboy to another girl, will probably be to you too. Just don’t risk it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:43 AM
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Sorry just had time to respond. 100%! Hey I’m happy for you! For people that can go on in life without thinking about it, good for you! I don’t have that luxury. If I met some amazing person and that person is no longer with me, I will forever miss that person and miss what made her amazing. The only way I can forget about those things is if I find someone more amazing which as I said, it’s unlikely. I’m very happy for you! But you can now see how for men, or some men, it’s really hard to not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 03:22 AM
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No I’m saying the opposite. I’m not saying each partner gets more attractive. I’m saying the opposite. This idea that every person we date will be better than the last or equally as attractive seems so crazy to me. Like do we really not have standards? who are this ugly women that can’t find someone they are extremely attractive to? They might not even be ugly. Let say I have a list of qualities I find attractive. For the sake of this I’m just going to say trait A, B, C,D,and E. Obviously there …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:43 PM
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Out of curiosity, in your head the next person you date will always be more physically attractive than the last?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:10 PM
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I personally would say there is a difference between having physical attraction and them being the most attractive person you have ever met. Maybe women and men are just wired differently here, but I can be in love, find my partner physically attractive, and still admit that she might not be the most physically attractive gf I’ve had or girl i have had a thing with. When we say people settle, I think in this context we are talking about not marrying your first choice. Like there was someone more…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 12:46 PM
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In my case? With one partner I already feel sad. Just the thought of them giving away to someone else makes my heart ache The thought that they could possibly at any point miss their feeling breaks me. The thought that I might be worse than them makes me feel like a second choice
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:02 PM
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Important? Not really. Most men, including myself, that claim to want a virgin would probably put her sexual past aside if the girl was perfect. If someone find their perfect partner, I doubt they would let virginity affect their relationship. But for those men, again including me, I would much rather them be virgins. I think I could date a non virgin, I have in the past. But I will say through out the relationship I would feel devastated cause I would think of their past. But I figured it’s a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 11:57 AM
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It is out of men’s control how women get to see us. I personally would wish women would be harsh on non virgin men. I would love if they got the icks for it like man do, but they simply don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:43 PM
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Oh 100% The difference lies that we know telling a girl you are just for fun is an insult. We don’t try to disguise it as “oh it’s a compliment!”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:15 PM
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That has nothing to do with the post. Whether I want to or not doesn’t matter, the point is women say those compliments but in reality only hurt us
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:13 PM
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Cause I want them as friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:39 PM
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The reasons don’t matter. Whether you are right or not literally has nothing to do with the conversation. The conversation has to do with the fact women say those “compliments” that actually hurt us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:46 AM
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Just as confused
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:41 AM
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Believe this was not the case. It’s movie marathon stuff. I have gotten there and after everyone is drunk or are getting ready to go to bed I leave. It’s just that I guess fell comfortable… when they have Been drunk and don’t have a place to crash, they always come to my place and they know I will give them my bed room with locks and all so they feel safe. Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:24 AM
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Yes.. that’s what I said. I’m confused on why the repeating my comment lol ?😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:19 AM
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Sorry I’m confused at your comment. Are you saying women also have this feeling of “you let your ex bang you in the first date, but you are making me wait”?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:03 AM
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100% most guys who are like friendzones or have girl friends have experience this. I am lucky to have mostly girl friends, apparently I’m so safe and trustworthy that I have been invited to sleep over with all women. I have always refused cause I think it’s not okay for a man to sleep with a bunch of women like that. People don’t believe it and the girls will be like yeah we invite him.. but he is so good he even refuses… he is good man.. he would never try anything. He is husband material. Othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:50 AM
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I think when they mean fun to be around they mean more in a romantic sense. I personally am one of those guys that 95% of their friends are girls. Every single one of them loves how fun I am to be around.. but they have said multiple times ways to say he is fun but not that kind of fun. Ive been told that im definitely a “safe bet”. The kind of man you marry, but definitely not the type to have fun and fuck around. That I’m the kind of man you want once you are done having fun. The kind of man t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:44 AM
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I don’t think men accept it anymore. Perhaps some part of it we do, but not as a whole. Me personally though, I 100% accept that blueprint and believe people would be better off following it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:32 AM
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Well I said as sexual assault. I don’t exactly now legally. Maybe I shouldn’t have said paper but more by definition no? Kissing someone without consent is sexual assault isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:36 PM
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Out of curiosity how does it work when both parties are drunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:25 PM
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Ummm… listen.. if what you are trying to say is that a couple should never kiss their partner without asking if they have consent to kiss them every single time they go for a kiss.. that isn’t wrong. That is the safest thing to do. I don’t disagree there. But to say that they didn’t care about consent is a very wrong statement in my opinion. There is a difference between not caring and believing you have it. I don’t disagree that they should have asked, but I think a partner that goes for a kiss…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:39 PM
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Well that is what I mean by accident. When I say accident is like they assume they had consent when they didn’t. Like kissing, most couples don’t ask permission to kiss.. but if they are kissing without asking, at any point he or she might go for a kiss even when the partner didn’t want to at the moment.. that would count as sexual assault on paper. I would call that an accidental assault
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:31 PM
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Well it depends on what you mean by rape. On paper any sort of penetration without consent is rape. So a guy kissing a girl and putting his tongue inside of her is rape. If a long term couple has never had a conversation about kinks and limits and the girl maybe wants to wake up the guy with a blowjob.. that’s rape but I don’t think she was thinking of raping him. If you mean force yourself in someone and pinging them down while they scream and fight back.. yeah of course not that can’t be an ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:22 PM
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It can 100% be accidental. I mention how lots of people use the body language argument.. body language isn’t enough because we can be wrong. We can absolutely read the room wrong. I wouldn’t make that mistake since I wouldn’t make a move ever unless there was concrete evidence of verbal consent
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:04 PM
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lol i thought that went without saying but I can edit it just for you buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:01 PM
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I don’t consider myself red pilled, far from it. However, I am called red pilled all the time so I will answer this. what are your views on the concept of consent? Me personally I have to ask “do I have the consent for X” because I don’t want to ever hurt someone or be miss accused of something. Assuming there isn’t a role play or anything playful like that, no is no and every couple should have a safe word. what does consent look like? In my book body language will never ever be enough. This se…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:38 PM
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That is not true. Men have always been involved with the kids. Maybe not in the way we want now days. Men were the disciplinareis, men provided financial and safety support, kids would still see their dad come home. This idea that the father would never see their kids and was practically single mother household is simply not true. Fathers still loved and played with their children. Again, maybe not as much as parent now days. But to say that in 50s they didn’t care at all and were not involved i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:07 PM
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So I will continue to read more about this in the morning. But from a quick read. In the 50s one in 20 children were born to unmarried women, compared to 1 in three today. Single parents which seems like anyone asking for child support was then categorized as single mother here.. less than 5% compared to almost 25% today. Again this was a quick scheme.. I’ll look I to this tomorrow.. but so far it does seem like before we had way less
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 06:16 AM
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The amount of single parent household that were legally married. Like I understand what you mean, but can we track that, do we have numbers. Or are we just saying oh yeah it did happen. Like I believe the before 1976 women couldn’t say no to their husband in terms of sex. So we can assume there were lots of married women who were raped. But we have no numbers, cause it’s not like there were reports, cause there was nothing to report, it was all legal. So do we have reports on what you claim or i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:41 AM
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I can definitely do that. Out of curiosity cause it’s too late to be reading information in detail.. I won’t remember anything. Okay.. that makes sense.. was there a way to track that? Or are we just making a smart assumption?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:30 AM
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You know how lots of people go to Vegas and get married, or just make wrong choices
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:29 AM
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Ummm you can educate me I am wrong. But we have stats on single mother households and it was significantly lower than what it is today. Is that not true?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:21 AM
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Yeah.. ideally it would be a mix of both systems. One where you can divorce in case of abuse and child neglect and things like that.. but one where you can’t divorce just because you were drunk and made the wrong choice or were too reckless and young.. make it known that marriage is forever outside of those extreme situations and therefore shouldn’t be taken lightly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:58 AM
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If by perfect you mean that.. I can see that. When I hear perfect I mean your literal soul mate. You have a connection that you have with no one else. Makes you feel the way no one else has and no one will ever will. Has all the things you knew you wanted in a partner and even the ones you didn’t know you wanted. There is nothing about him or her that bother you. Nothing that annoys you. Nothing that you are like oh that is a flaw and it’s okay. Literally perfect. On that definition I continue t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:56 AM
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Well i don’t know if didn’t work is the right wording. People just stayed together cause it was inconvenient… we assume that.. we know there were some.. but do we know statistically how many or what percentage of those marriages were unhappy or bad marriages?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:53 AM
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The liberation of marriage was good face value. Idealistically, people would still get married with the idea of fighting till the end, and only divorcing in extreme situations like abuse and child neglect. But realistically, it pushes people to not take marriage seriously, creating.. maybe not more but different issues like the fact a huge percentage of kids are without two parents, people not being able to hold a relationship, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:52 AM
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No i do believe it exist. But tell me, do you believe most people end up with their perfect match? I would say if I were to guess.. most people end up marrying someone that is 30% perfect
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:41 AM
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Oh 100% that is why I said extreme minority in my previous comment hahaha But Like I will be honest with you.. I know people here get all triggered and when they say perfect they are like well he isn’t perfect because he cheated… that is why we say perfect but. No one in this world is perfect. But if you are telling me that I have the ability to find my perfect gf.. that she is 99.99999% perfect but she will cheat.. I would be lying if I said I would drop her. I think most people end up marrying…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:59 AM
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Haha I didn’t talk about poly people. I talked about people choosing the perfect partner even if they cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:56 AM
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Oh I agree. But your statement didn’t say it wasn’t good. Your comment said no one will. A lot people have… and I would say a lot of people will continue. Extreme minority now compared to before but a lot will continue
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:50 AM
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People have agreed to this in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:38 AM
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I totally respect your boundary on this. But I think the way you answer sounds sort of naive. When someone says they are perfect but they do this.. the answer people always give he is not perfect because he doesn’t do that. Come on… let’s use another scenario you can have your dream house but in the suburbs(which in the scenario you don’t want) or an okay house In downtown(which in this case you want). To answer well it wouldn’t be my dream house anymore.. technically yeah.. but the question is …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:38 AM
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That is as a group or organization. That is no longer an inferior individual against their boss, that is hundreds of inferior individuals, usually with also other people in power too. That is very different
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:15 PM
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Not in the sense of human value.. but definitely in the sense of hierarchy of power, responsibility, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:52 PM
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I Guess the Word ínfero has a bad connotation. So for example, I’m inferior to my boss, in no way does that make a me a inferior human being, it doesn’t mean I’m dumber, it doesn’t mean I’m weaker, it doesn’t I’m less attractive, it doesn’t mean a lot of thing haha. So in a way, yes they might be hierarchically inferior, but it doesn’t mean dumber or anything like that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:50 AM
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Maybe this is one that you may not be able to understand, but to some people like myself, there is a level of intimacy that you can only get with sex. You can get other types of intimacy, but that specific one only comes from making love. child neglect by… Though I have never heard that quote.. I think this is true of everything. The people that hate most in this world, I feel like(maybe I’m wrong) psychologically speaking it always comes down to lack of love and too much abuse. So it’s no surpr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 03:01 AM
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Don’t think this might be coming from a place of privilege? I’m going to use food as an example. If you know you can eat everything you want any second, you might wait, even starve yourself a little, for once the good delicious meal comes. However, for those people that never have anything to eat, they are starving, and they don’t know when the next meal might come.. so even if it’s not the best.. they will take it because they have no idea whether a better meal, or any meal for that matter, is …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:13 AM
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Here is my take on that. Can men and women be friends? Absolutely. 99% of the time do the men want to have sex with you? Absolutely. But just because he wants to ravish you, doesn’t mean he can’t be a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:42 AM
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Well what I am asking it’s what’s on my last post. Less than 40 words but if that is too much for you that is okay. I will say it’s contradicting to say that each man has different set of values but then say she is at the booth of the barrel. If you believe she is a low value women objectively, not just to you, then you believe there is a set of standards that are universal, at least to men from this community that, that would make her the bottom of the barrel. You need to explain what it is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:16 PM
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What? That doesn’t answer the question. What is it that makes a woman valuable through men’s eyes? I don’t think whether she would stay with a rapist or not makes it higher or lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:44 PM
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I don’t think we are listening to each other. You said “that is my point though”… meaning you agreed with what I said above. What I said above is that there is a difference between owed and expectation. Owed is when there is a contract. You are right, no one made a contract therefore is not owed. Expectations does not need a contract, so anyone can expect anything
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:45 PM
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I would say your example of lending money is way different because there is an agreement. When a man takes a woman out on a date, there is no agreement of sex or anything other than showing up and attempting this date. Lending money is an agreement between two parties, that is why it is owed. You are not only expecting the money back, but you have an agreement the money is owed and will be paid back. That is the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:33 PM
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You can be a man seeing it through a woman’s eyes. Can you answer that question Can you please tell me why a woman like that would be a bottom of the barrel woman? Through a men’s eyes(not as in for you, but as as in men as a whole) what do you think are the basic things that make a woman more valuable?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:50 PM
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To be honest I feel bad that you see them in such a dark light. If you have talked to any woman, you know there was plenty of amazing women dating bad men. To say that oh the relationship bad men had are shallow… no.. a lot of the times, their gf are amazing. They might be horrible bfs themselves, but they got amazing wives and girlfriends. Crying and dying inside because they don’t want to play the game(which literally makes you bad) and want to continue being good, that is depression? Don’t ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:10 PM
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Again.. you are not answering the question. Do you not empathize with the nice guys who are not saying misogynistic things, who are not saying women owe me sex, but the ones that are crying and dying inside, desperate for a connection, desperate because they see people who are not good, and see them getting what they want, seeing them getting love, and everyday they get older and older and the feeling of loneliness can get overwhelming… can you empathize with that? Or no true nice guy can experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:52 AM
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I would say is very few “nice guys” who respond with misogynistic crap. Definitely the loudest are those. But again, do you not empathize with the truly nice ones? Or do you just refuse to believe there is actual niece guys struggling and getting walked all over and not getting any love?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:39 AM
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It definitely happens both genders in different ways. For a man is about being good to get the opportunity. For a woman, is be good to pick the right man. Fundamentally very different. But even at that point, you did exactly what a lot of incels do, give up and go the other side. You gave up and had a phase of partying and sleeping around. For men, what you experienced as a Im giving up, is what they are trying to achieve. By the way, I’m not saying that should be the goal of men. I’m just expla…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:37 AM
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I 100% there is pretty privilege.. big time.. specially men towards women. I feel for you and I am sorry for men that did this to you. To a certain level, I’m sure I have been guilty of this myself. My only disagreement is your wording. That they would be treated non humanly. I would say they are being rude to you, mean, and so on… but that isn’t inhumanly. Those are pretty human responses to. Not good ones, but human response
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:28 AM
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With all due respect here, I think you are not seeing it from a men’s eyes. I think it’s safe to say you think there are some men who are more valuable than other and some women who are more valuable than others. I’m assuming this is the case based on your comment “a women like that is no prize… bottom of the barrel women” You are seeing it from a women’s perspective. Through a women’s eyes, true, she might the at the bottom of the barrel. But we don’t always want the same thing. The best exampl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:23 AM
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Though I don’t doubt what you said is true about plenty of “nice guys”. Do you really not empathize or even see it as a possibility there is a good amount of truly nice guys who are struggling and are hurt when they see men treat women baldy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:13 AM
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I don’t consider myself an incel. And the only reason why I don’t think I feel into that blackhole is because I had a very strong father figure. I can totally see why many men become incels. The frustration that no matter how good you follow the rules and you do what is right doesn’t get you anything good is extremely frustrating. I remember from a young age frustrated at the fact that I would do everything my dad told me to make the girl I like fall for me, being a gentleman, complete chivalry,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:11 AM
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I don’t know. I don’t know him. His 25 year old rule that he has when dating. It’s weird. Is it misogynistic? It could be. But I don’t know. Just because someone does something that is usually misogynistic doesn’t mean it’s actually misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:58 AM
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I don’t think so. The power imbalance has nothing to do with the tip. If we were talking about a 50/50 dating and I use an in-balance example then saying the relationship between an employee and employer than it would be bad… but whatever At least I’m glad you now understand the difference between expectations and being owed something
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:32 AM
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Haha I find it hilarious that people can’t take an analogy. I was just watching a movie that people where complaining because in a scene when they are talking about their god, one of the characters said it’s like a whisper that won’t come out, and people were like you are comparing god, an omnipotent force with a whisper.. its an analogy.. of course we are not saying a whisper equals to god, of course I am not saying someone working as a waiter it’s the same as someone in a relationship. I’m not…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:14 AM
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That is not what the question was. She asked oh so men would be happy just dating their looks match without any sex? Men. Not women. But I do think a men would be happier in a relationship without sex than no relationship at all. Obviously there is exceptions. But overall, men need women emotionally more than women need men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:00 AM
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Oh I see. I would say most man are totally fine settling for someone they find somewhat attractive but obviously the hotter and the prettier the better. In terms of lots of sex I think lots of men will take once a week as okay, but obviously the more the merrier
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:57 PM
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I don’t know if 100% happy but I definitely think they would be happier dating without sex than single without sex. You still haven’t explained why expect is the same thing as owe in your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:20 PM
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that is asking a lot I mean.. if loving your partner and having sex with them it’s a lot to you, I’m not going to fight you on that, it might be a lot to you. But I do think it’s objectively easier then meeting all of the personality traits, political traits, and emotional traits needed on the other side. both groups because they should be meeting people who aren’t jerks. I do believe it’s both groups but not because they should be able to meet nice people, but rather because they are making bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:17 PM
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Get women as in date them, having sex, etc is what I would assume. Which again doesn’t change the fact that expecting and owing is different. No one’s owes any one love, sex, being nice, anything. However, we all expect if we are good human beings and we work hard, we expect we will find love, sex, and people be nice to us, doesn’t mean we will get it, doesn’t mean it’s okay for men to explode and assault when they don’t get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:54 PM
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I’m confused. So people who don’t need much in life, just a pretty girl that loves them and is willing to have lots of sex with them, those men are actually happy with themselves? ”well, women are like that” Well let me ask you. I believe you said when you met a jerk, you met a jerk, but when everyone you meet at jerks, you are the jerk. How would you explain this to men? Cause a huge group of men as a group agree that women are jerks, and a huge group of women think men are jerks. So who is the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:37 PM
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Out of curiosity OP, do you think it’s possible we don’t need as much to be happy? At least speaking about myself, I am very very picky in terms of dating but not in the way you mean necessarily. In terms of personality, as long as that personality is not I’m going to abuse you and cheat on you, I can mold mine to my partners. So It’s not a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:26 PM
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Then you stay here if you want
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:24 PM
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I think the difference in regards to the post is that in our society, good actions should be rewarded and bad actions should be punished. This is why when a company doesn’t appreciate your efforts people stop working as hard, they are not rewarding you, sometimes even punishing you. Same thing with friends, sometimes the better friend you are, the worst you get treated. When someone feels like they are doing everything right, and they are not getting rewarded for that time and time again, maybe …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:20 PM
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Then why? I’m not entirely sure. It could be because of society, culture, the fact they put lots of effort, I don’t exactly know that is another conversation. But that isn’t the point of the conversation. The point is expectation and owing someone something isn’t the same. what is the difference? I explained the difference. Owe is when you must do something. No one must be nice to you. No one must give you a dollar if you are homeless and you are asking for money, no one owes the money. There is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:56 PM
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I will change it to laws. Rules is harder to make a difference even when there is one you are right. Expectation isn’t the same thing as laws. Rape, assault, is violating the law. Getting angry isn’t. In terms of you disliking those expectations. There is some expectation I like and some I dislike just like you. In my opinion if we want to change them it up to us
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:50 PM
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I 100% that the things you listens, is he showing attraction, etc are more important than I am a 4/10 and I must date another 4. However, when I say that men are better than this, is that men are better at looking themselves at the mirror and being honest with themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:46 PM
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Well no, it says most men don’t believe women owe them sex. Most men do expect. The reason why I make the analogy is to show that expectation and owe is very different
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:45 PM
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then technically no one owes anything No. Once you live in a society, there is certain rules that you must obey by otherwise you can be kicked out of that society. A great example of this is immigrants. They must follow certain rules otherwise they get kicked out. Taxes, jail time if don’t something wrong, all of those are rules you must obey, otherwise a bigger force will do it for you. face the consequences of saying no No. This is where again the rules of society comes in. They are allowed to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:18 PM
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I 100% agree it’s not good to lash out on anger. I will say I think men overall are way better and knowing their value than women. I mean there is whole post on Reddit from women fighting over and over again the use of the word value or level.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:10 PM
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Well don’t you think it’s our jobs as individuals to not see people as one single group. Men do this a lot when they go women do X. And women will complain saying not all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 08:00 PM
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I will be honest, I did not know the exact definition of rightfully but I just looked it up “in accordance with a legitimate right or claim to property, position, or status.” You can tell me if I am wrong, but I think a waiter has a rightful expectation of a tip in terms of claim to position or status.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:43 PM
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I don’t see anywhere where OP said women owe them sex. I do see the men expect to be able to get women at their level. I don’t see how that is the same. The argument I give is if you go to a restaurant, the waiter expects a tip. Now even if he does the most amazing job as a waiter, if for any reason you don’t give a tip, you don’t like their hair, the way their voice sounds, maybe their personality, or their looks, whatever, it’s okay. You don’t owe them a tip, but they do expect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:40 PM
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To defend his comment(not him because I don’t know what he personally believes), his comment didn’t say exactly what you quoted. He said women don’t owe sex, but that men do expect girls at their level or below it. Now, maybe this is where I might differ from OP. To me expect is very different from owe. When you go to a restaurant, the waiter expect you to tip, but you don’t owe him a tip. He might have done everything perfectly, but if for whatever reason, you just don’t find him attractive, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:38 PM
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Owe and you expectations are very different things I think. Like a waiter in the USA expects you give them a tip, but you don’t owe them a tip. If they do a good job and so one, it’s okay to expect that tip, but if the client decides to not give the tip it’s okay too! Will the waiter get mad? Probably. Should he get mad? I don’t think so but its understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:28 PM
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100% true, this idea that women who dislike age gap relationship are jealous is just so wrong, are there some bad apples, some girls who are upset because they feel when they get older they will loose their “value” or older women who are jealous they didn’t take advantage of their “golden years”? Of course, but it isn’t the majority. Just like they are some weird older men who want a younger women to control her, to abuse her, because she doesn’t know better, etc, but the vast majority just want…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 01:17 PM
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I don’t know why people are upset. Do people really want to live in a world where we must always follow the same standard we want to date to not be hypocrites?? The second thing, I’m not sure what she is talking about? Respect her independence? There is tons of conservative man who love or at the very least don’t mind if their woman work. Even if you look at the strongest conservative voices like Ben Shapiro, they are totally fine and encourage women to study and work if that is what they want. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:51 PM
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Can’t they both be? So If a man thinks a woman must be a virgin because that is what a woman ought to do and a man ought to sleep around, toxic masculinity. And if a men has an insecurity of not being the best and the response to that is calling him names and saying that his feeling are stupid, invalid, etc, that is also toxic masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:01 AM
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Yeah I don’t know what changed. To me there is nothing more feminine than small butt. Some people are crazy out there, I’ve heard people claim that people that likes small butts are pe do s because a “real” woman should have a big butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 12:55 PM
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Though I do think society pushes women’s value to be determined by their beauty and fertility, I believe to be able to change that you have to provide something better. We often say that women find value in men in his money, how he can provide, etc. through out history this has been correct cause women were not able to work and needed men to provide for those things that bring value to life. Now that women work, the value of a man has changed or has lowered for those reasons. For men to become m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:11 AM
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Well hold on those are 2 different things. I do agree that being independent is not a trait that men find attractive. But confidence does not mean independence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 02:04 PM
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I don’t know if we prefer. Obviously I’m speaking from personal experiences, but I have never seen a man actively looking for a girl with insecurities or neediness. In fact most guys are always complaining about how needy their partner is. And insecurities.. I just don’t think we care that much if they are confident or not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:58 PM
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Yes. I never understood why us men tend to not care about confidence as much as women do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 01:35 PM
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I was saying that moments like that are completely acceptable. Maybe a few tears on a sad movie. It’s to be connected with your emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 12:55 PM
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Be ready for 100s of messages from men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:15 AM
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Small butts. The idea of being able to hold each butt cheek with each hand is very attractive. Feeling small and easy to grab.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:15 AM
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So my understanding is that they want you to be happy emotional. Show happiness, show love, show that you care. Show vulnerability with things that don’t make you look weak like your dad dying, etc. but do not ever cry about anything that isn’t big deal. They will hate that. I hope I am wrong, but that is just my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:11 AM
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I’m sorry to hear that but in agree. The question did you make the right choice is useless, though I think for different reasons. I think if you are asking this question it means you did not make the right choice. But it’s okay
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:21 PM
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Makes sense. My current partner feels the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:38 PM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:37 PM
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I’m happy for you and I agree with you. One of my biggest fears too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 06:05 PM
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Well maybe not the one, but you could settled for someone if there was someone in the past that you wanted to marry but wouldn’t marry you and you are still hung up on them. Not saying this is your situation, just saying you could settle
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:20 PM
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I mean i don’t disagree. When you give people incentive for something they will take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:20 PM
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Well when I say get along I mean like you don’t want to kill each other. I 100% agree with your idea of settling. Unless you are saying the only way to settle is to hate that pero son and only be there for the family in that scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:07 PM
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I mean women can cheat to. But I don’t disagree, men are totally happy with a situation like that. I don’t think that’s okay but it is true
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 05:05 PM
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That is a really good point! I think it would be better to say in what way you are settling. I think that a partner is separated from other aspect of life. Better to explained. Let say that I don’t want to leave my city or state, but my dream girl wants to leave in Canada. I didn’t settled with her. My dream girl is all about her, physically, emotionally, intellectually, and sexually. Not geographically. So I would say to that I settled for a country I disliked more to get my dream girl. So the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:52 PM
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Hey listen.. once again.. I’m not denying that happens. I am with you, if that men were to leave the Kid to be completely raised by the woman, that would be a bad husband. I agree. But once again, I fail to see where you are making that connection. That whole comment above, I said he was in love with a girl who didn’t want a family, so he found another girl who did want a family, but sadly he still loves the other one. I don’t see how any of that makes you think “oh he is just leaving the kid to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:43 PM
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I’m glad you don’t regret it! I am sorry your husband is no longer with us. I wish you the best!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:54 PM
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I will say that is a fine argument. It could very well be the case that I’m not a good farther. But, can you admit that that man could be very well suited to be a parent, but also wants to marry someone who is suited to be a parent? Again, I don’t disagree that it is a possibility. However, I failed to see the connection. Perhaps I am miss reading this or perhaps it could be worded better. But as I am understanding your comment, it sound to me like you are saying someone choosing a person who is…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:33 PM
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Oh okay I did not know that, I apologize! Thank you for explaining that. Though I disagree, I think it’s not rare to find couples that settled, many don’t even see it as settled until you ask questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:07 PM
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Oh yes sorry! My bad. Too many comments I didn’t realize you were responding to the same comment as I did. 100% with you. I personally think both gender settle and get settled for, and none of us want to be either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:57 PM
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I agree with you that it can be immaturity, but I don’t think safe can’t mean settled for. As a man, I would marry someone who would make a good mother over someone that I was crazy for. I would see that as settling. I’m not going for the person that will make me the happiest but I am going for the safest option. Or would you say that going for the safest option is never settling?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:44 PM
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Thank you! I think this is a juicy one too! Hoping we will get more replies! And feel free to answer if you want. If you feel like you settled, not because there was someone better before, but maybe because you think there could have been someone better after, that’s fine too!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:40 PM
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Oh I’m not saying that you should settled! I’m glad that you didn’t settled and that you are happy!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:38 PM
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Hahaha I never said you said anything about the ones. I never said settling is about marrying someone who is perfect. I agree with your definition of settling, but up until this point you hadn’t mention that definition. no actually I don’t think I’m settling< That is fine! I never said you should settled. I said it’s normal, it happens a lot, and as long as people are not aware of it, they would be happy. In terms of fighting my demons for asking this question… I was just curious cause I was hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:29 PM
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Dude you are fighting your demons here and we are not here to help you with that. In terms of men don’t want to be settled for I don’t disagree. No one wants to be settled for. I never said that. I said I don’t think it’s bad. What do I mean by that? I have a feeling most men end up settling. It sucks for women, they don’t want to be settled for either. But if they don’t know they are being settled for. If they believe they were chosen, they are their “the one”, then they will be happy. And same…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:17 PM
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Okay this is coming out of nowhere.. sounds like you are trying to fight your demons here…. But either way.. I don’t think is necessarily bad for the men. But also keep in mind most men are settling too. If something I would say more men settle than women. So if you are to say that settling is bad for the person who was settled for, it’s not just for men but both genders. Either way, I don’t think it is bad. Specially if they are not aware of it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:03 PM
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I don’t disagree with that. That still doesn’t answer what did I say that was fantasy?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 02:00 PM
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Then I’m extremely happy for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:08 PM
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Haha I am genuinely curious here what makes me live in a bit of fantasy? I’m extremely happy it wasn’t you! I’m extremely happy that you are happy and have not settled. I was just explaining what I think it means to settled. Now if what you are saying is that I live in a fantasy by saying the things above… I mean… i don’t know what to tell you… lots of people have extremely low self stem that it makes date bad people.. this is a common issue lots of people go to therapist for… and it usually has…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:26 PM
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I’m not whining about women divorcing more haha. I think you could make the argument that lots of women in those divorces did settled at first, some didn’t and the man did change, but some, I’ve sure met some, their husbands were the same from day one but realized they deserve better than the way they were being treated. For those people that realized that they deserve better, they were aware of the bad things but decided to look past it because they didn’t think they deserved better. That sound…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:21 PM
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I mean men and women do settle. I would probably say that men end up settling more often than women. Do you not think some women end up settling? I mean maybe you are right and women are different than men in this regard… but I find it hard to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 12:09 PM
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I didn’t mean as in true love. But rather the person you would have done anything to be with but maybe couldn’t or realize it wasn’t the best for you even though he was the one you loved most. I compare this to a job. Most people have dreams jobs that would make them extremely happy but decided to give up on it for something more that will be safe in term of economics. People end up choosing different careers, maybe even some that they hate or at the very least can handle, only because it’s safe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 11:51 AM
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If he is the person you wanted to marry, truly. Not because you coudnt do any better or not because you were afraid of what would come next with someone else… if he makes you excited and you truly like him physically and emotionally and intellectually, then I don’t think you settled and I’m very happy for you! Settled to me is like if you didn’t get your dream job. And you had the ability to get your dream job but you know your dream job pays idk.. $10,000 a year… you realize life is hard and yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 11:44 AM
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I see settling as in you are not marrying the person you wanted to marry. Maybe there is still that one ex that you would have loved to marry but she or he fell out of love. You understand it’s not possible and you move on and you find someone who treats you good, makes you feel safe, it’s a good economical partner, good values. Now he or she might not be the person you are most attracted to, maybe you even find them a bit boring, but you decide to stay with them because they are good for you, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 11:40 AM
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I see settling as in you are not marrying the person you wanted to marry. Maybe there is still that one ex that you would have loved to marry but she or he fell out of love. You understand it’s not impossible and you move on and you find someone who treats you good, makes you feel safe, it’s a good economical partner, good values. Now he or she might not be the person you are most attracted to, maybe you even find them a bit boring, but you decide to stay with them because they are good for you,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 11:39 AM
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I 100% that it is crazy those men are surprised and even upset when the women that has held her virginity for so long, it’s making them wait too. The idea that they will be the man he changed for in a month of knowing each other is just dumb. That I 100% agree. Where I disagree is where you say those men must be virgins or have low body count. I truly not see the connections. Now, I want to make it clear, this is coming from a man who is a virgin and is waiting for marriage with my current 3 yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:47 PM
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I personally would be upset at the react the girl was having sex with some jerks that didn’t deserve it just for the fun of it and she is making me wait cause she believes do deserve the her? No. I would leave. Now, if she is making me wait because she is a virgin and she won’t give into sex for a few years maybe into marriage, im fine with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:35 PM
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Man here. If I am making enough to for the family, I would not want a single dime from my wife. That is her money. If she wants to spend it on trips for us, gifts, etc, cool. But it’s hers. My money is our money but her money is her money. Now if somehow I was not able to make means end.. then i would hope she would jump in and help. But ideally she would not be working and she would live off my income.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:32 PM
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Well I don’t think it is about being necessary but rather something to make the other person feel good if it makes you feel good. My current gf, she wants me to always pay to get her nails done, since she has her nails done, she says I need to open every door because it could ruin her nails, carry things, etc, those little things she knows they are not necessary, but she claims it makes her feel like a princess to have someone love her and adore her and attend to her every need. It’s not necessa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 01:27 PM
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I don’t know who you are fighting. I never said that it was a double standard. I never said you were okay with cheating. All I said is that even counting all of that, I believe both women and men should stay virgins until marriage or as close to it as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:00 PM
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I don’t see your point. I still don’t believe it’s good for either sex to be sleeping around. I agree that women don’t want virgins. I don’t see women lining up to date virgins men like men are. I wish more women were attracted to the fact a man was a virgin. I agree, they usually don’t. However, that still does not change the fact neither is damaged goods and it’s not good for either go be having casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:56 PM
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No actually I don’t think either are damaged good. I also don’t think men should be sleeping around. I don’t think either sex should be. And it’s not hatred for women. I’m saying I hear people make fun of women who claim to have high standards but also sleep around with guys. I don’t know why saying sex for free, which is accurate both on a literal perspective and figurative, offend you. And to be clear men also give sex for free, and that is just as bad
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:47 PM
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Well this again where I say “I might not have been on Reddit for long enough”. In my experience, if a girl is a virgin, hasn’t done much, men are okay with waiting for marriage. They do complain when women have given sex for free to guys at the bar and now are making guys wait or are being too picky when they were sleeping around with random people they didn’t even know. Not that women don’t have the right to do that, it’s just what I have understood they complain about! To answer your question …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 08:45 PM
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It matters a bit. I would have to search up the study since I don’t have it with me, but as I remember the educational background of the mothers is a huge factor in the development of the kid. If the dad has or does not have a degree, it doesn’t change anything. But if a mom has a degree, it significantly increases the likeliness the kids will go to college. So it matters a bit. Not enough to leave them, it doesn’t speak to personally traits or anything that makes me more attractive to her. Just…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 08:38 PM
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Perhaps I haven’t been on Reddit for long enough, but what I have seen is people making fun of women “wising up” and vetting their possibles partners and failing. Not only failing, but it sometimes seems like “wising up” only made it worse for women. I have never seen a woman made fun of for choosing a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 08:32 PM
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I don’t think no one denies the ability to cherry pick. It’s just pointing out some hypocrisies we sometimes see. Like a man making minimum wage and coming home to play video games and watch tv and expects the wife to come home after work and clean and cook and take care of the kids. You are right, there might be a woman who believe this to be her dream and a man who is more than happy to give that to her, but I would dare to say that if what he wants is to come home to a meal, a clean house, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 08:19 PM
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22 year old man here! Got 40%+ the first time cause I choose to not exclude mothers, I then excluded mother and brought it down to 15%. Very different than what the women usually get I will admit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:08 PM
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22 year old man here. I bought a 4 bedroom house at 19 in the Austin area, make more than the average man you pointed out and I am just at the beginning of my career. I am currently almost making what your average man and woman make together. It doesn’t sound that hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:03 PM
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I wouldnt. Granted I’m also waiting for marriage. To me you shouldn’t have sex until you are ready to have kids(obviously we are never ready.. I mean in a mental and financial sense).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 03:48 PM
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Well there is a difference between mundane, boring and difficult. Pregnancy for example, the fact that a woman was able to create life. That is pretty freaking amazing. Celebrating anniversaries? I think it’s way easier to buy let’s say a home than having a long lasting healthy marriage. Something to celebrate. Someone who has had problems with alcohol, 5 years is good to celebrate But I do see what you mean, I think it’s more about difficulty and also perhaps social meaning
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 04:09 PM
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I don’t get your point, I’m sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 03:50 PM
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Well I guess maybe I’m might be wording wrongly. When I get up in the morning and I weight myself and see myself losing weight, I am I guess proud, happy. However, I think showing it off or showing being proud of losing a pound it’s funny. When I bought my first property, I was proud. But I hated to show it off, cause I always thought it was pretty easy to do. It was time consuming, but easy. When I say being proud is funny is when they are clearly showing off that proudness for basic things
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 03:50 PM
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The part of being proud again, I don’t mind. Specially in situations like this. But again, the action it self is funny to be proud of. The fact that he was homeless and he is growing out of it, not funny at all and it’s something to be proud of.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 03:46 PM
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Let me first say that you are 100% right. I come from a very privilege background of having 2 amazing parents. I want to clarify I don’t think the trauma itself is funny. Of course not. Getting rid of their trauma is something to be proud of. But doing basic things I don’t think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 03:44 PM
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I ask in the first date. I ask about past bf, why they ended, what they found attractive, when the love started fading away, I ask about sexual experiences, etc. In your hypothetical that everything else is perfect I would totally give that person a chance and try to look past it. However, if she is not a virgin, I find it hard to believe that our values would alone
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 08:26 AM
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I don’t think I would crap on them for being proud, but I do think it’s hilarious for an adult to be proud of simply basic human activities
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 08:11 AM
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I have problem with your statement of understanding and knowing how to deal with your baggage. I guess to put myself as an example, I was raped when I 9 by a family member. In a way, this is some baggage that I have I guess. I don’t need nor want a partner that understands this nor knows how to deal with it. I hope she hasn’t been close to any experience close to this before. If she is an “emotional blank partner” in this case I am glad! I am happy that she hasn’t been hurt! I would not want the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 08:07 AM
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Well you do see more women dating wrinkly men than men dating wrinkly women. But I didn’t mean just about wrinkles. I meant more about the whole subject. It makes sense to not want a wrinkly partner, it makes sense to not want a partner with baggage, it makes sense to not want a partner with a lot of sexual partners, etc.. you don’t see lines of women fighting for the young, no baggage, no sexual experience, about to start their life man
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 08:03 AM
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Well I don’t disagree those women exist. I’m simply saying it is logical to want a partner will less baggage. So for a men to want that isn’t wrong. And women should pick the logical answer and find less baggage. But as we can see, we dont always go for the logical answer. I’m simply stating that sadly, there is no point on talking about men’s baggage cause it doesn’t seem to matter to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 07:59 AM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 07:56 AM
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I think that is a good question to ask women. I personally will always want a younger and hopefully even virgin girl. Sadly, when I hear women talk about their preferences, they often don’t want to date younger guys or virgins guys. I think that both men and women should want younger virgin partner. However, me as a man can’t tell women what they should find attractive. I can only talk about what men find attractive and what I observe women find attractive even if I disagree with it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 07:55 AM
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I think this is a great point! This is something that often isn’t talked enough. The reality is that the argument about baggage and past trauma and so on happens to men too. Some claim less so but even if less than women, it undoubtedly happens too. Is at this point that many people will call it a double standard. However, I wouldn’t call it a double standard when we, men and women, are choosing are own poison. What do I mean by this? You are right that men have baggage too. This would imply tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 07:52 AM
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I personally have never heard that phrase exactly like you said it. I never hear people say pick less attractive man. The rest I have heard. I don’t think we are equaling ugly with good man. Instead, I think people are saying the vast majority of men are good men. Only a small amount are bad. And this is true for both sexes. If you keep dating the bad ones than it might be your own doing by choosing them. If you are not choosing good ones it’s obviously because you don’t find them attractive. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 02:40 AM
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But what we define as security and comparability and attractiveness changes between male and women. Of course there is some overlap, but there is a lot of clear differences
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 04:42 AM
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That you are not willing to take care of your partner even if he is perfect partner every other way, yes superficial
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 12:13 PM
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Yes that objectively correct? I don’t see how that is not superficial
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:53 AM
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Rejecting someone for superficial reasons will continue to be superficial. However, I do agree, whatever desires, preferences, requirements, anyone has for their partner. No matter if it’s superficial, materialistic, moral, etc, it’s okay. That much I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 12:03 AM
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A woman who wants to be a stay home wife is not “lacking maturity” or has “little drive”. It’s just that what drives that person is different. Maybe her drive is to be the best wife possible. Maybe she doesn’t think, like many people belief, that working is everything in life and it’s only through a hood career that you can be fulfilled. Just how it’s okay and totally mature to want this as a woman, a man can too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 11:52 PM
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I will admit that I can be wrong about the following. I think that we look at things very superficially. I don’t think it’s the making more money that makes them want to leave. If that person were to act the same way as someone who didn’t make any money they wouldn’t care. As in, it’s not that men care if they make more money, but rather girls that make more money, tend to have some personality traits that men don’t like. But even at that point, I really don’t think they care. If I am not mistak…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 11:49 PM
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I mean i don’t disagree that. It definitely will matter to the way you will fit in with your partner. But I don’t think that makes it any less superficial. So for example, let’s say a man didn’t want to work, he just wanted to stay at home and cook and clean, doesn’t want kids, and the rest of the day he is happy playing video games. Let say you don’t like this. You don’t want to financially support someone. You don’t want the stress or responsibility or have to work extras hours to make enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 11:44 PM
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I want to believe we are misunderstanding each other cause if what I understand from your message is correct I think you are extremely wrong. You claim those values don’t set up a person fundamentally…. Those are literally the factors that built who we are fundamentally speaking. Our emotional intelligence, knowledge about life, religious values or lack there of, romantic values, family values, morality itself. That is what builds us. Whether he or she makes money doesn’t build us.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 11:00 PM
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Emotional, romantic, physical, intelectual, religious, family. All values that you can find
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 10:43 PM
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Sorry responded to the wrong person. Yes. I agree, needing someone to make less money than you is superficial. I think men rather than needing a woman who make less than them, they just don’t care. They don’t care whether they are making any money or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 10:41 PM
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Emotional, romantic, religious, humor, empathy, physical, intelectual. Those are some great values
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 10:38 PM
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You are right I don’t! Just looked it up. So the oficial meaning talks about “located near a surface”, however if you scroll down you will find that in terms of superficial as an adjective to people is “mean lacking in depth or solidity”. Needing someone to make money for you to date, sounds like a perfect example of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 10:29 PM
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I think men talk more superficial, but their action show less superficial while women tend to say less superficial but act more superficial. I guess it also depends on what you mean by superficial. To me, if you are not willing to date someone who doesn’t make any money at all, who lives with their parents, and such. To me that is superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 10:13 PM
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One million is not enough for life. No thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 05:01 PM
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I mean, yes. I don’t think I ever said it was inherently wrong. But yes, I would feel bad because I would feel like I am being replaced or at the very least like I’m not as good. Granted, if she does think she feels better when using the toy rather than with me, I would like to think it is mostly and issue with me. As in there is something I am doing wrong. There is some, but extremely few cases where the problem is actually on the person using the toy in my opinion. But of course it would make …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:11 PM
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I mean, yes. I don’t think I ever said it was inherently wrong. But yes, I would feel bad because I would feel like I am being replaced or at the very least like I’m not as good. Granted, if she does think she feels better when using the toy rather than with me, I would like to think it is mostly and issue with me. As in there is something I am doing wrong. There is some, but extremely few cases where the problem is actually on the person using the toy in my opinion. But of course it would make …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 05:11 PM
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I could walk to the store everyday… it’s only 15 miles away… instead I use my car I see your point to this. However, I do want to point out the context of the size of the picture. What do I mean by this? Car were invented to move big loads in short amount of times that otherwise would not be possible by humans. It’s all about efficiency. The reality is that our legs cannot take us to a 15 miles store in 15 minutes. Usain Bolt, fastest man alive, has run as fast as 27 miles an hour. cutlery Well …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:49 PM
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why I’d be in a relationship… who isn’t attracted to me… Well you can correct me if I am wrong but I have been told about relationship we’re the attraction is there, they love the way the other person looks but might not love the way the other person feels inside. I agree that if there is no physical attraction, I don’t see why they are dating. tools Interesting. I see your point about tools and I think that it makes sense to things we can’t do. You mentioned hammers. Are bodies were not made to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:00 PM
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Thank you for answering the question! Again, I didn’t mean it as a gotchu. It is clear were your believes are and I appreciate you explaining them to us! You are 100% right, not everything is for everyone. And just how to you it sounds exhausting, to me it sounds exhausting and just horrible to live like you do. But as we clarify not everything is for everyone and that is okay! Also, never denied that men buy dildos
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 04:19 AM
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Quick question! And I don’t mean as a gotcha or anything. I’m genuinely curious. If your bf could not cum from your vagina, mouth, butt whatever y’all do, and he required a fake vagina or sex doll or a machine that mimics blowjobs, would you still be happy? I mean in the sense of knowing your bf doesn’t enjoy your body and can’t feel good with it and requires something to replace that. I personally am a fan of many toys, ropes, collars, paddles, vibrators. However, I would lie if I didn’t say if…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:46 AM
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I don’t think I am worried about any inequalities. At least none than I can think of
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:32 AM
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I agree people are hurt. However, I don’t think anyone is obsessed about trying to get the youngest women. The way I see it, please just dislike to be called bad names for saying something as simply as men find younger girls attractive. Are there some people who are hurt and might push them to find younger looking girls even more attractive? For sure! But I don’t think the “healthy” men and the hurt ones are much different
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:30 AM
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I have never asked that question but I do see it a lot and I respond to them. What do I think I would like to achieve? I think it would be putting the emotion aside and look at it as more objective. A lot of people call any man attracted to a girl that looks like a young adult woman but happens to be 17 a p*do. So my first thing to achieve to me here is either the fact that we need to realize that being attracted to a young adult matured body even if she happens to be 18 or a bit younger doesn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 03:54 AM
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My personal take on this is that two people can’t drive a car. Sure you need the copilot to click on the map around, to help you with food or drinks, etc, but at the end of the day, only one can drive. I personally say that I only want one of two types of relationship. The one where I am 100% submissive or the one where I am 100% dominant. Now, what does that mean. To me, the dominant knows what is best. The dominant takes care of everything. He or she makes sure the family it’s good and well ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 03:17 AM
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They love it! Don’t get me wrong. But the vast majority of men are happy with a job that pays enough for them to survive. I don’t deny that we want power. Who wouldn’t want to be the owner of Apple and have all that power. But we don’t want it enough for people to work their lives off to get it. Heck we don’t want it enough to even study, colleges are primarily women now days.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 03:33 PM
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I think it’s hard for men to understand this since most men don’t do what’s they do for them? As a man, I can say I only work hard for women. Whether it is my mom, sister, my gf, future wife, and future daughters. I don’t workout for myself. I don’t study for myself. I don’t work my butt off for myself. We do it for women, or at the very least a group of men do. Those men find it hard to believe that women do it for themselves since they have never felt that themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:23 AM
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I don’t deny that it is our doings. But just because something is our doings doesn’t mean it isn’t a problem. I would make the argument that there is plenty of evidence the age gap it’s on women’s on doing. That doesn’t mean it isn’t a problem still. You are thinking of it as a fight between men and women. I never said it is women’s fault men are more homeless. You said not women’s fault… I am aware. I never claimed that was their fault. Just like I don’t claim every women issue is men’s fault. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:58 PM
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No. Men do face some serious issues and to deny that it’s just crazy. Wealthy? Most homeless are men. Being a man has serious issues just like being a woman does too. They are different and I am not here to say who has it worst cause I don’t think it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:32 PM
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We both have it bad. Men and women have easier in some areas and harder in others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:22 PM
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I’m not sure what you are arguing? Maybe I a made typo? I agree, people should work on themselves if not ready for a relationship. If you take sex out of the equation, it’s easier to work on yourself I think. Safe sex? I think with both know most people at some point or another are too honey and go raw bdsm I mean as bdsm as she knew how to get me without doing sexual stuff. Sexually? Yes. That is the most we did. Like I said spanking, using tools she had to hit her butt, mark her, treat her lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 12:49 AM
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why? So many people focus way too much in relationship when they should have been focusing on themselves before they can even get relationship. I think men would be forced to be nicer people and to be better if they were not given what they want, sex. Also, let’s accidental pregnancies. Less stds, etc. bdsm I am pretty open minded, I didn’t have a problem with any kinks really. I mean obviously discarding illegal ones like animals and such. Comfortable in the sense that didn’t involve sex. I did…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 12:09 AM
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I don’t think it’s this huge thing at all. I just don’t want a girl that has had sex in the past. And I think it’s only fair if I require a virgin, that I will be one as well. I think everyone would be better of as virgins until marriage or forever partner , but not like a huge big deal that will happen the moment you have sex. She had done bdsm and sex before with exes. She taught me the little she could with what I was comfortable. I 100% forgave her. I think mistakes are very human, and cheat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 11:41 PM
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You are 100% right that I could be wrong. Once I do have sex I could become the most boring sex ever. Where do I get that idea? Mainly from my two gfs I have had. I haven’t done anything physically with both. But my first gf was very sexual and experienced. With her wanting it all the time and me denying for so long. I felt like I had to give in to something since she would communicate her desires and I wanted to be a good bf. It started with kissing, then things like grabbing her butt, very sma…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 04:29 PM
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I did not put a 20% down. I wish I could do that. It was more like 6-7 % I had to put down. Yes average homes are not 1 million where I live. I give you that. Average homes are going dow slightly. But as far as I know, are going for 600k? Yes I definitely think unless the pay makes sense, staying at a like California that charges millions of dollars for a place to stay where the pay is only like 10-20% more than that of other places like Seattle, or other top 5 housing market right now, that doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 01:31 PM
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Sorry just saw you posted this too! You are a 100% right about being low in sociosexuality, At least based on the definition you sent me through the link. Libido, I would say the opposite. I have a very high sex drive and at least my partners and girls I have talked to have said, but I control myself a lot. I totally agree that it’s 100% okay to want sex that is why I was never upset at her for cheating cause I understood her. If I had gifted her my virginity and started having sex with her and …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 05:41 AM
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No money at all! I was given a working 2014 sedan that works amazingly when I was 18. This was a huge help. Since it allowed me to right away look for jobs that pay better without worrying about distance. When I mean buy I don’t mean pay outright. I mean getting a Morgage and so on. I put a downpayment of little over $40,000 thousand dollars. Money that at least in a city like the one I live in, it’s not that hard to make if you are willing to work a lot. After my main job, I would go do Doordas…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 10:10 PM
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Pt2 Social, I think the first thing is to get rid of the friends that do nothing for your life. I got friends that always got drama about how their best friend hurt them or they lied etc. first of all, why would you be friends with someone like that on the first place, second, why are they your best friends. So getting rid of people that are not pushing you to be your best is a first step to have a good social life in my book. On top of that, building confidence, working on conversation skills a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 06:49 PM
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Pt 1 why do you think people that enjoy drugs and alcohol and partying are hedonistic? The meaning in their life could be simply to party and get drunk. So as I said about success, yes everyone has different definitions of success, and there is nothing wrong with that. I want to be in a relationship with someone that had a similar idea of success. I don’t mean to say that they are hedonistic. They could very well have meaning in their life, but that meaning in their life will most likely not mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 06:48 PM
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I personality think virginity is a gift you give to someone. The goal is for the men to gift his virginity to his wife and the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 04:35 AM
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what are those? In a relationship I think values are extremely important. Usually the people, in my experience, that do drugs tend to have some similar traits. They value happiness over everything or at least what I would consider more important things in life. They are not focused enough into building a life for themselves. They don’t have the best relationship. In the political spectrum we usually don’t match. What they find fun is very different to what I find fun. Different goals in life. Et…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 04:27 AM
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So I will explain for the mushrooms. Yes, they are very kind. The person that I know that does the most drugs(without being considered a drug addict) is one of the most kindest person I have ever met. However, at least for me. Kindness isn’t everything. It’s certainly is something I requiere in my friendships and relationship. And there is other traits that I see(again, if an exception comes along, I would not be opposed to them) that I would not like in a relationship I definitely agree that no…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:40 PM
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I’m fine with drinking. I hate the smell of cigarettes and weed. If she did it in her own time in fine with it. Or if she wants to do eatables or such that don’t stink, I’m fine with it. Molly and shrooms… I don’t know.. the people that I have met that do take them, not the type of people I would date. But if she can control it and such, maybe, but I won’t lie I’m not sure. Going out every weekend? As long as it’s with me, yes. I am the type of person that like to spend a lot of time with my par…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:01 PM
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Well I want to clarify. I admit that I don’t do any of that stuff. I don’t agree that I want it but can’t have it and there for I don’t want women to do it. I personally think it’s sad when people needed to have fun. I still love to go out dancing, specially salsa dancing. I love grabbing one girl to dance with and then another one and just having a blast. I don’t think I’m boring at all. But I do agree that people immediately think of people who don’t drink and have a lot of discipline in their…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:35 PM
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Oh yeah I mean that is entirely different if someone is about to get you fired
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 04:12 PM
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Totally fine to be the exception! I personally have been flirted by elderly women and underage girl. Never got an ick factor from it. With the young ones it’s simply a laugh and explain to them I am too old for them. The elderly, I just let them flirt and let them have fun
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:46 PM
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Hi! Sorry for the late response! Just woke up. I am happy to hear that you are more decent than the average man! I wish more people were like you then. In my personal experience, I have seen lots of guy get aggressive with gay guys who are flirting with them. It’s sad. And I have seen no man get upset when a fat girl tried to steal a kiss from them. If something they laugh and just say that won’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:45 PM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:45 AM
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You sort of are supporting my idea. As I said, men are attracted to everything that moves. That is why even aft chick attention might be desirable to men. I am glad you don’t get upset when a gay guy flirts with you, I don’t either. But I have known plenty of men who get offended if let’s say a gay guy tries to steal a kiss from you. If a girl, even a fat one, tries to steal a kiss, the guy doesn’t get upset, if something he feels more flattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 04:37 AM
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Yes! This is me. I refuse to drink, smoke, do drugs, or anything that can get me closer to making a very stupid mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 04:06 AM
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0 with some exceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 04:03 AM
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This is common in humans in general. It just happens that men are harder to trigger I guess. A clear example is when flirting Women will find the flirting creepy or good depending not on the actions, not on the words, but on whether they find us attractive Men do exactly the same thing, the only problem we horny dogs find everything that moves attractive to a certain level. But if a gay guy starts flirting with men, lots of men get all aggressive and rude. Just like women do with unattractive gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 03:57 AM
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Based on your argument, yes. But as I said before, I don’t think it’s bad at all to have moral attribute and want a partner that doesn’t follow that attribute. I think it only makes it hypocritical if I am saying everyone should be this way and I am not doing it myself. If I say, I know that me being like this makes me boring, I want to find a FUN person that wants me the way I am, boring. That to me doesn’t sound hypocritical. I’m also a workaholic. But I don’t want a workaholic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:07 PM
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But I am. Rather making a judgment on people that don’t do that stuff. They are boring. They are too stuck up. I don’t want to date someone that doesn’t do that. I want someone who does that and it’s more fun, more relaxed, and less of a stuck up. Based on your argument, I am being Hypocritical because I am judging those that act like me, and would not date someone that acts like me, I will date someone that acts opposite of me. It’s the same thing as if I had tons of sex but judge those who hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 01:39 PM
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Let me use them a moral attribute instead. I have never had alcohol, never smoked, vaped, or done drugs. Never have, never will. I just don’t think it’s for me. But I do want my partner to be someone that can drink, can smoke, can get high, have fun, not hard caite drugs though. So because I have chosen to not do that, I can’t be with someone who chooses to do those things?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 04:01 AM
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The definition of jealousy is the following: hostile toward a rival or one believed to enjoy an advantage She doesn’t have an advantage towards me if she has been to the places I have. I guess you could make the argument that if she had been to a bunch of other places that I have not, then I could be jealous because she has that advantage. I am not saying to not do it together. I am saying I really enjoy seeing the face of someone who is experiencing something for the first time. Last night I to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:15 PM
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Yeah. Sometimes I really wish I was religious to find and easier time. But oh well, thank for the good wishes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:36 PM
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I think it’s wrong to call them jealousy or hypocritical. As an example, I love showing people new things. Taking them to new experiences, new restaurants, new places, etc. I love seeing the look in their faces. If I have a friend that has already been to that country, to those seas, to those restaurants, not a problem, I have another friend who hasn’t and I will take them instead so I can show it to them and have them experience it. I’m not upset or jealous at my friend for having experienced, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:25 PM
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I can’t know for sure sadly. I just turned 22, so it’s not impossible yet to find virgins but it gets harder and harder as I continue to grow old. I am also not in a religious community since I am not religious. I don’t go ahead and ask “have you had a penis inside of you?”, no. But the few girls I have actually gone out on dates with, I do talk about all my goals, requirements, expectations, values, etc on the first day. I am not here to waist time and I don’t want to waist their time either. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:17 PM
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As a man who is celibate and will only date virgins and I hate the way men use women for sex, I don’t think you are right. I get what you mean, and why you feel like that. But I think the simpler explanation is the fact that humans often have preferences that don’t equal to ourselves. You might be short but want a tall partner. You might make a lot of money but want a partner that doesn’t make much. You might not be fit, but want a partner with a six pack. You might love being by yourself alone,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 03:05 PM
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With all due respect man. I think it’s a little.. let’s say immature, to get upset about a general rule. There is nothing wrong with generalizing, it’s okay to generalize. Obviously everyone will be a little different and there will always be exception, but through out history and even today, there is enough evidence that show men as a whole care a lot about a women’s looks. Can he be better at explaining himself? Of course. Obviously it is not the ONLY thing we care about. But it is a big one a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 05:09 AM
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I think that it will hurt some people.. but I think it will help more people than hurting people
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 11:27 PM
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Very true. I guess as a man i was always thought to be the strong one and to let your kids and wife do that but you stay strong. to be honest I don’t hate it, I sort of like it and I think it has helped me a lot mentally
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:41 PM
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I think men would like this yes, but we don’t seek it? I used to seek it but when I opened up for the first time and I told my now ex about my rape story, she started treating me differently. And I tried with a few other women. They all started treating me differently. Maybe I just had bad friends? Which I would doubt, I have really good friends, but they still treat me differently after finding out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:57 PM
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Oh because we have heard it over and over again most likely. At least in my experience and my friends experiences As an example, I’m a virgin, my gf is a virgin. She admitted that though she thinks it’s sweet I have stayed a virgin this long for someone special. She did admit she would have rather I had experienced. For 2 main reasons. One, I will probably suck at the beginning. Probably cum within second and hopefully learn to please her fast but who knows Two, she being a virgin too, she says …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 12:54 PM
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As someone who personally believes marriage should not be allowed divorces unless there is evidence of abused, rape, violence things like that, I would agree with his statement t
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:09 AM
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I don’t know if as most people. I’ve never, personally, heard of a man tell me this is what they want in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:03 AM
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Of course every relationship is different and everyone has their unique quirks and things they want in a person. However, there is definitely some patterns to things women and men tend to want as a whole. There is quite a big difference in mindset in some situations. Some people say biology, some people say society, whatever it is, it’s there. Here are a few that I can’t think of: We tend to treat people they way we want to be treated, for the most part. Men are not usually complimented on our b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 03:59 AM
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I don’t think adult equals to having had a lot of sex partners, having dated a lot, etc. Just because it is common to see people do this does not mean adult equals that. Most adults seems to be struggling and/or depress. Doesn’t mean being an adult is about struggling and depression. Perhaps you want someone that struggle through their whole 20s dating, at work, family, friends, only to finally find themselves and have done the “typical” life of a 20 year old and now live an average good life. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 05:41 PM
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I agree with the yellow flag. But I will also add, any man that my daughter would bring will raise a yellow flag right away. Maybe because of their attitude, because of their last, because of their city, because of their age, their job, their school, their family, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:34 PM
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Me personally i would disagree. But being totally honest, I’m also that type of person. The type of person always arguing about right and wrong. The type of person who is very disciplined and won’t give in to anything that I think it’s even a little bit bad. So I guess I’m a little bit biased
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 06:29 PM
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Depends on what you want. He sounds like really serious relationship type of guy. Doesn’t want to play games and he is being direct. If you like that, go for it. Most people now days want to play around with dating, if that is you then don’t talk to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 03:16 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 05:04 AM
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If I may join here. I think both are right are wrong. You are right that blue pill people don’t just blindly trust anyone, you are right it isn’t black and white. But where I think you are wrong is to say either pill, red or blue, sees things as black and white. I think both pills claim the other pill sees things as black and white. But I don’t think neither do. You mentioned how blue pill people see them as individuals and will pay attention to red flags instead of just saying all women or all …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 04:55 AM
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I never denied that 99 percent can’t. In fact I was pretty specific about being a extreme small amount of people who would be able to do this. 0 relationship are impossible since you needed to be born so you immediately have parents. But if we are being relatively about choosing to be in isolation for some time of your life, maybe after you are old enough to get out of your parents home. There is stories like that. Very extreme but there is a few. Scientist have in fact shown that loneliness kil…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 05:30 PM
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Feels needed and actually needed are two different things. But let’s say you are right, let’s say the relationship are needed. Since at this point in our society, we are not willing to have a relationship with anyone other than that person that fulfills our desires and values and etc, than that person sexual drive is a must, just as much as any other value for that person
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 05:18 PM
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Well not it feels like you just want to fight haha. I do think some people can live in isolation but it must be by choice. There is very few examples of people that have left society to live in the woods or meditate and they are able to. So it is possible, just extremely few people desire this. For those that don’t want that, if forced can in fact be damaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 05:12 PM
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Yes…. That is what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 05:09 PM
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That they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 03:09 PM
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Agreed. However, I have seen plenty of times comments of people not being “dicks”, at least by your definition of not calling them sluts or bitches or anything and still get called out for it. Like I have said plenty of time I will only date a virgin. I don’t think that is disrespectful, I don’t think non-virgins are slut, they are human being who wanted to be more sexually open and that is okay, I just wouldn’t date them. I immediately get called a dick, an asshole, idiot, misogynistic, pe d o(…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:39 PM
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It’s human behavior to expect some sort of reward. If you are always inviting your friend out to eat, to the movies, to your place, to dances, to trips, etc, but she doesn’t ever invite you out… you will be upset. If you are always listening to their problems, going out of your way to help them out, to always answer their phone, or door, or etc even when it’s inconvenient for you. If they don’t do the same when you are in trouble and need help, if they are never there for you. I’m sure you will …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:33 PM
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Yes. I think you are right to an extend. Not being loyal is not just about cheating in my opinion. If you found someone better and you leave the person you are with for them, you are not being loyal. Most people I don’t think take relationship seriously enough to actually be loyal. I’m not saying I am. I am selfish. I would like to think that if I get married, no matter what I won’t divorce because that is what loyalty is. But I don’t knkw
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:27 PM
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I agree, sex is not a need. However, relationship now days are not about survival anymore. They are about love and being happy and healthy and in a compatible relationship. Is sex needed in a relationship? No. Just like how love is not needed in a relationship, respect isn’t needed in a relationship, humor Isn’t needed in a relationship, same values aren’t needed in a relationship. None of those things are human needs. What they are is human desires that one particular person or even groups at l…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:23 PM
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Well the nfl as an example, though they have low arrest rate, the are highly likely to be arrested based on domestic violence. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-rate-of-domestic-violence-arrests-among-nfl-players/ Now, some people say it is the sport that makes them more dangerous. Some people say it is from young, a lot of parents have aggressive kids and instead of teaching them to control it, they teach them to channel it by sending them to sports like football 🏈. I want to make it cle…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 04:08 AM
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Yeah no. I am someone who is constantly comparing myself to others. And I am very happy doing it overall. It’s been pushing me to do better and better and at least with my direct family and friends, in the areas I compete, it has made me better in my opinion. But on this I can’t change, it definitely does hurt but oh well. Thanks again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 08:18 PM
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Yes. I’m completely aware that it is me because of past relationship I had. Even if my gf says it’s perfect it is still on the back of my mind my past experiences. I can’t see that changing unless perhaps I see a drastic change in society where they don’t use that as a form of insult or a bad thing. Not to say that they should. I think it makes sense to use it as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:57 PM
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I’m glad you can. I don’t think I would. Don’t get me wrong, I love the idea of toys for other reasons. But when it comes down to this, is as if I am failing in one area and need an object to fulfill it. It makes me feel bad. I would imagine if a girl for whatever reason wasn’t as tight or something and I needed a very good quality flashlight to enjoy myself she would feel bad. I applaud you for being able to see it that way and not be insecure about it. I would not be able to. But I really do a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 07:34 PM
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I appreciate the feedback. I mean i can tell you it doesn’t help much but I appreciate you haha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:59 PM
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Well I don’t think I mentioned crazy sex. The comment I was responding to made it clear the commentor’s bf’s ex was a “literal pageant queen” and the commentor, the gf, is “pretty dumpy-looking”. I agree that the love he feels for her must be bigger since he decided to stay with her rather than someone that looked like a “pageant queen”. My whole point is that the gf he has now can make him happy, but he might also desire someone more attractive. Does that mean he would ever leave her for a pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 06:51 PM
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I didn’t disagree with you. I said well then physically attractive as in “okay you are right. To some people sexual attraction is more than just physical looks. But physical looks.. are about physical looks.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 11:28 AM
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I see what you are saying. And that makes sense. The only other thing I would add is, I think most people agree that having a few white lies here and there is fine. Like maybe your partner cut their hair in a way that you don’t love. You don’t hate it. But they seem so excited and they love it so when they ask, you say you love it too because you love seeing them happy even though you might have preferred another haircut. I think it’s also possible and likely that she might lie and say she would…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:06 AM
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Well then let’s just say physically attractive then
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:54 AM
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I think I get what you are saying. I will say to my own story, it’s not like I’m talking about my virginity. It’s more like my friends set me up with a girl. I went on dates. And I end things. They ask why. I don’t want to push it, but they do. And I say because of her past sexual history, because of this and that. And they get upset that I rejected them for it. When my ex cheated, he told people why she did it. Word goes around, my sister and friends find out because I didn’t satisfy her sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:14 AM
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Though I agree that there shouldn’t be a label for it. I don’t agree that people don’t care. I mean random people don’t care, that much is true. I think friends and family care. The friends I consider true friends, that have been amazing friends to me. Often feel bad for me. My history in relationship, girls that have left me or cheated on me because they couldn’t handle the lack of intimacy that I gave them. And my friends feel bad for me and encourage me to just have sex. Enjoy my life. Be you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:03 AM
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I have a question. I mean this with no offense. The way you make it seem like is as if there is actually nothing to be insecure about. Yes she was prettier, but she was wayyy crazier. I have nothing to worry about because even though she is pretty, her craziness made it not worth it and that is why he is with me. So far, fair enough. However, wouldn’t that just prove that there is something to be insecure about. Yes, he found her more attractive. He decided to date someone less attractive, less …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 01:58 AM
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My take on the matter its that is more about probability. Like I always tell my sister, don’t date football players, basketball players, hockey players, boxers, mma fighters, military. People who have high probability of physically abusing of you. So just like that, women often make the choice to pick qualities with high percentage of cheating. However, there is definitely times where a woman makes all the right choices, meaning she chose the qualities with the most likeliness of being loyal, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 10:05 PM
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Well you would be right. I really do love this girl so if u found out she was only with me because I don’t know… she was divorced and on her late thirties and with kids and it’s a lot harder to find a man and she needed some stability… if I find out she has been having sex as a way of keeping me happy and in a lie. Yeah I would try to workout, perhaps remove sex from the equation, perhaps she is happy as long as we don’t have sex. Or something. Worst case scenario, then help her with the kids an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 08:39 PM
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My apologize. You did say that, I read it and completely misread the statement. However I still stand by what I said, sometimes it is better to live in a lie
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 08:23 PM
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Well I don’t think anyone deserves anything. We get what we can get and we desire what we want, hopefully that person falls in both categories. But most of the time I’d say it doesn’t. I would totally be fine living in a lie where she only picked me because she is done playing around with the fun dudes and wants someone that will giver her a more healthy stable life, even if there isn’t passion or even romanti or sexual love from her part. I’d rather live in a lie as long as I can believe it. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 08:17 PM
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I mean they way she talked about getting annoyed at little things sounded more like daily basis stuff that your sister, brother, dad, would probably do to. At least by the comment it didn’t feel to me like she was talking about intimate stuff that only within a relationship happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 05:05 AM
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Well the unique part is that it’s only with men that otherwise needed to be sexually attracted to. She specified that with friends or family she doesn’t get annoyed easily
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:56 AM
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I definitely would take the lie but have my dream girl than being with an okay person but be real
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:44 AM
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I respect it. I sadly disagree but I respect your opinion!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:41 AM
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I wouldn’t say it’s immature. I would say people have different priorities. I’ve met some people who want children but would never birth them, they only want to adopt. Some people are the opposite, they want to feel like they made someone.. they want to feel that kid is them(half at least) and if they want that, which is totally fine to desire this, it would be a big compromise to marry someone with kids. In terms of bills and hardships? I doubt people haven’t experienced that. It just so happen…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:40 AM
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I mean. Some men would rather live in a lie. Some me are happy believing she finally realized how good he is and that she loves him. Perhaps it’s a lie, perhaps she does love him as a friend or a partner but not as a romantic/sexually involved person.. but hey.. as long as he believes she is.. why kill his dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:36 AM
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I respect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:33 AM
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It’s definitely weird that it’s only with man you are romantically or sexually involved but hey, nothing wrong with being unique! In terms of aspiring to be with someone you are not attracted to, you are right. No one aspires to. However, I would say that it is way better to be with someone you might not want to sleep with, you might not have passion, but it’s someone that treats you right and makes you a better person and supports you and is healthy and makes you life better. This is better tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:32 AM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:26 AM
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Interesting! Not trying to prove you wrong or anything. I’m genuinely curious curious about this part of your personality. If I understand correctly the reason why you wouldn’t give a man who you are not physically attracted to a chance, even if you get along amazingly, even if he was your best friend and could talk to him for days and be with him for weeks no stop, because if there was something he did that bothered you, it would annoy the crap out of you, you wouldn’t have patience nor be unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:25 AM
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Well it doesn’t sound like it won’t work every time. In fact giving him a chance has nothing to do with the fact that she is, as you said, “crazy”. If she wasn’t a “nag”, as you said, it could have been a better situation. I say always give a chance as long as you seen them being a healthy net positive partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:20 AM
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Well I don’t think it’s saying give a chance to someone you dislike. I’m sure you have lots of people you like as friends and can spend hours with and love them as friends but they are just not sexually or physically attractive to you.. they have what they need to be a great partner to you but just without passion and sex and perhaps love from the woman’s part(woman in this scenario based on OP story).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:17 AM
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Yeah but men like this, myself included, would be happier at the fact they got the person they have loved for so long. Some of us rather live in a lie as long as that lie is our dream girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:15 AM
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I think that’s what OP is saying. She failed with her first marriage the guy she actually felt passion and love for. She is now in a position of needing a partner and doesn’t have as many options now. She sees her old friend who has been in love with her for many years. He is a good guy. He is still single. He is still crazy for her. She might not like him like that, but she can talk to him for ours, depend on him, rely on him, have a healthy relationship.. maybe without love from her part.. may…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:14 AM
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Depends on what you mean by love. For example, maybe there is someone sweet and good and treats you nice and you love them because of it.. but they are boring and there is no passion. I would say it is fine to stay with them and better than choosing passion and fun but with a person that treats you bad, that is not good for you, that hurts you financially and emotionally, and doesn’t help you become a better version of yourself. I think it’s better to be with the person you love but there is no …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:02 AM
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You decide what is allowed and isn’t allowed with your body. Me personally. I’ve always said I’m not willing to wear a condom unless maybe for something like anal. If you don’t like it, that’s fine, I’m not for you and let’s just move on. So if my gf said I had to wear a condom. We are then not having sex, which I’m okay with until a certain point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 07:48 PM
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I think so too! There has definitely been time where I have wanted to give in. But the thought of sleeping with my wife and at any point thinking back to me doing it with someone else breaks my heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 01:12 PM
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I’m not “adamant to disprove it”. So far there is two comments. The first one I said I had no idea, that I hadn’t thought about it, feel free to give me the info. And you did. I read your article and didn’t have any info of your claim. That is not wanting to disprove it. That is me opening the door to you and then showing me something different that didn’t prove your claim. Now third world countries and first world countries must have different laws. We can’t make a law for all the world. I’m sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 02:17 AM
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Hi again! I just finished reading the article you just sent. Maybe I made a mistake, but I don’t see anything about 15-19 girls dying in the article. The only point about risk on the mother side is the following: Adolescent mothers (aged 10–19 years) face higher risks of eclampsia, puerperal endometritis and systemic infections than women aged 20–24 years, and babies of adolescent mothers face higher risks of low birth weight, preterm birth and severe neonatal condition. Nowhere in the article s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 01:21 AM
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Thanks for the info!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:03 PM
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I’m not sure what you mean? Are you saying I didn’t think of the ramifications of pregnancy? I mean I definitely think it’s a big risk and that is why on my earlier comment I mentioned I go more with the idea that people shouldn’t have sex until 25. If you mean that it is riskier for a 16 year old to get pregnant than a 40 year old. That I will admit to have no idea about. I know that if she is tiny like 9 or 12 yes. But at 16 I assumed that their bodies could handle it but I could be very wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 10:34 PM
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Well the underage thing is simply a law base. Socially created if you want. Most people in Europe are between 14 and 16 as age of consent. In North America is mostly 18. I would not be surprised if we were to increase it to 20 or 25 at some point. If that were to happen tomorrow would it mean any relationship of a 26 year old with a 21 year is wrong. I wouldn’t say so. But definitely illegal. I do however believe there is an age when they don’t understand it but rather want to do it because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 10:25 PM
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Alright
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 10:22 PM
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Difficult questions to answer. I have two answers and I have not yet been able to make a decision on it. One option is 25. 25 is the age we know the brain stops developing. I follow this rule almost on anything. I am 21 and have never had a drink or smoked or anything. To be safe I won’t do any of that until maybe 30. Unless new evidence comes to light that we continue to develop until later. I don’t think people should be having sex until their brains are fully developed. So that was one option…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 10:22 PM
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I am very sorry I don’t understand your point of the first two sentences. The wish I did casual dating, I wish I could too. But I’m too emotional to do it and I also don’t think helps the world. I am unmarried but I am in 2+ year relationship. I am a virgin tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 10:05 PM
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Some men are against this. However, I am not one of them. I can understand how sometimes it’s abusive. I was raped by my male cousin when I was 9. I would never say “good for them” or “lucky” just for having sex. Why was my situation bad? Cause I didn’t want it. He manipulated me, made me afraid of saying no, he even punched me. That was horrible. Now if I had been gay, if I had liked him and wanted to have sex with him and I had. Then I don’t think it would be bad. Other than the fact that he i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 10:00 PM
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Yes. I don’t do casual dating so I don’t know if it’s different. I don’t think casual dating should be a thing so I guess no. Have I ever ended a relationship over it? No. But I don’t start a relationship without knowing this. So I just broke it off and thanked her for her time and mentioned she was great but sadly I didn’t think it would workout. Thanked her one more time and said goodbye. What do I consider too high? I want a virgin. If they are not a virgin. I need to ask more questions about…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 09:35 PM
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Very well said. I think this is the best argument against this analogy. Good job!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:42 PM
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Hahaha I mentioned the same thing with my gf. The idea attracts me but I would never let it happen cause I wouldn’t like any other guy touching my gf. But if I could shadow clone jutsu… now that would be ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:18 PM
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It’s fine if you want to protect her. I’m not saying that’s bad. But you can’t be there 24/7. She has to go to the store, walk, go to work maybe, etc. you might not be there. Not only that, the years before she knew you, before she got you to protect her. Disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:11 PM
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From a biological perspective the pain of having to go through periods every month. Weeks of pain and mood swings that sometimes make it impossible to work. Having to deal with pregnancy. Having to deal with the fact that they are physical weaker than men. Going on the social, being physically weaker than men puts them in quite a disadvantage when going out and about in life. Though it is true that both men women need to be carful when walking out at night, looking over their shoulders, etc. the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 08:06 PM
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Men. Women have a harder life as it is. If we can make it even a little bit better by getting a free meal, then we should do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 07:54 PM
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I wouldn’t necessarily say men created the rule, But rather the rule was a byproduct. However, you are a 100% right. I don’t think men are necessarily upset at that 20/80 rule though. I think most men see it as a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:52 AM
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You are 100% right. And it works both ways. The problem is that to change a society, people have to make the sacrifice and start to make the change. Those people will probably suffer a lot but if they do it right, they will push more and more people to change and in a few generations will be what we are looking for
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:47 AM
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So just to clarify. Your stance is as my understanding goes you say than a 20-25 year old. Has a bf or gf of 16+. Since 16 is the legal age in most places, but waits for her or him to be 18 to have sex with them. Not creepy because they are in a relationship and they like each other and as long as it’s not abusive or taken advantage of them good to go. Men or women purely waiting for someone to be of age for nothing other than sexual pleasure, creepy. Correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:54 AM
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Well I don’t think it’s creepy to wait until the young person is of age. If something is the correct thing to do. A 16 year old and a 19 year old dating. He should wait until she is 18 or legal age at the very least to have sex. Why is that creepy? If you agreed, which you might not, with the idea that as long as nobody is being abused and taken advantage of, as clarified by the main comment we are commenting under, than it’s not creepy to wait. I think we all agree that a 50 year old dating a 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:04 AM
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Well you mentioned how men who think like this don’t see women as people, that they don’t care about their feelings. the main comment was about “compatibility” and how the woman “loses so you can ‘win’s” I think it has everything to do with what y’all were talking about. It’s not that they see them as object or just don’t care. I think they do care. They don’t see them as object as I said on my first comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 08:56 PM
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This might be true. But I truly believe both can coexist. You definitely need to be compatibly in a lot of aspects. But I think compatibility can be found in every size, shape, age, and color of humans. We don’t just go for compatibility. There is plenty of people that I would be extremely compatible with but I just don’t find attractive. There is a phrase I was told all my life and it translates roughly to it’s just as easy to fall in love with a poor man than it is to fall in love with a rich …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 08:48 PM
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That’s awesome! I’m very happy you two are together. I just don’t like giving those things away to anyone. To this day, I have only kissed one girl, her. We never farther than a quick kiss. Not even make out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:28 PM
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Yes? Five months. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 12:37 PM
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No i completely understand what you are saying. What I’m saying is that he could be exactly what you want. You said sex is a big part of a relationship. Maybe he thinks the same thing. He may agree with you. He could be selfish in bed? True. Or he could be the most selfless person in bed and rock your work. I understand you don’t like it and you wouldn’t date him. I just think the word incompatible is not the right one. But I respect your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 12:36 PM
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I don’t blame her either. I do think it was a little hypocritical of her, since I know she complained about her exes pushing her for sex very early on and how they didn’t want to wait and it was all they wanted and if she didn’t give it to them, they would cheat or leave. She did the exact same thing. Not saying it was wrong, I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 12:34 PM
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I wasn’t but just looked into it. I don’t know about you though. When I have bought a new car. I test drive a car, if I like It, then i see what other colors trims they have. I might want more with more sensors. If let’s say they have it, I don’t also test drive that car just because it’s another color. So even if it was a lemon, test driving it wouldn’t have helped in that situation. Also, with the new cars coming out, you need to order them in advanced and most people haven’t even driven them …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 12:32 PM
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Well maybe it’s just me, but when I think of someone who has casual sex. I would say more than 2 or 3 body counts a year. I don’t see how you can have a 3+ serious relationship a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:31 AM
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I think he described it wrongly. I think what he meant is the fact that many girls do want a serious relationship, meet a guy who is acting “nice” and shows “good qualities”, they fuck, and then he leaves. She wanted something serious but she didn’t get it. So she tried again, meets another dude, and same thing happens. This does happen a lot and if you go through dating groups here in Reddit you will see lots of women have similar experiences. This would be a case where women might end up with …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:27 AM
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Fair enough! Sounds like a well balanced deal
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:21 AM
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Well I was thinking more right out of a dealership
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:44 AM
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My ex was definitely mad at this. She was mad it took me 5 months to give her our first kiss. She was mad I never wanted to touch her sexually. She ended up cheating cause she said she couldn’t wait any longer
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:23 AM
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Does it actually mean you are not compatible? Or could it possibly mean he is compatible, you are just not disciplined or patient or etc enough to wait to find out?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:22 AM
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Quick question, in your brain, is there even a possibility that you would be sexually compatible once you get married? Like to me it sounds more like someone who is very disciplined. He could be the highest libido person in the world and the person that will literally rock your world, but also happens to have a lot of discipline to wait till marriage. I don’t think waiting for marriage shows not being sexually compatible? Rather, shows people don’t want to date with people who take sex so seriou…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:20 AM
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Is being the first girlfriend that bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:18 AM
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I don’t know… there is some cars I don’t need to drive to buy… rolls Royce, Bentley, etc.. If they said you can only get it if you don’t drive it until you get it, I would still get it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:17 AM
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What if he never tried it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:02 AM
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Again I never denied other animals did this. In fact I have affirmed it like 3 Times that they do. I don’t think that is a biological evolution. You would be correct to say that humanity had evolved to having phones and riding machines instead of horses. But none of it biological evolution. It is us using our resources and creating something new of it. The mouth, I don’t think, was ever evolved to become a pleasure tool for penises. It just so happens that it feels good and we use it. Heck, I’ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 03:18 PM
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There is also the option of evolution? Just how there is people who are being born without wisdom teeth, because we don’t need them anymore and evolution got rid of them for some people. “Made to” I mean more evolution, natural order of things. But you are right, some people could be talking about a god or designer
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 03:13 PM
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I’m not religious at all. What I think when I say is not meant to be is for example phones. Phones weren’t meant to be. That was created by humans. Not by nature, the universe, god if you are religious, whatever. It was something we created. Pills for example, I dont think our biology evolved to be able to take pills. Our body evolved to do certain things with the chemicals you put in your body, humanity took advantage of that and created something that we can ingest and will dissolve and then g…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 02:39 PM
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Well let me rephrase it better. When I meant no purpose as in I don’t think it was meant to be. It’s kind of like the feeling of hunger. If I am not mistaken, the only reason why we have the feeling of hunger is because otherwise we wouldn’t eat. This is why people who have illnesses where they can’t feel pain or hunger or etc, they often pee themselves, can’t tell if they are hurting, don’t eat, etc. so the feeling of hunger has no purpose in the sense that now days, knowing that we are suppose…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 01:58 PM
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Well I don’t even know what you are discussing. We are going in circles now. Yes, I agree masturbation keeps your organs prime and healthy. Is that because we were made to masturbate? No we were made to reproduce, but we humans, as well as other animals, have found that it is fun to masturbate and they do it specially when they don’t have a partner. Masturbation is an alternative to having sex. Suppression is not natural. I agree. However, we as humans need to suppress. I wouldn’t consider mastu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 01:17 PM
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Yes. There is evidence that our biology is asking us to reproduce. Masturbating is not reproducing. The body naturally get rid of sperm at night if I am not mistaken. If you haven’t had sex and don’t masturbate, your body will at some point get a wet dream and have you cumming at night. You are right it is best to organs daily for better health. But that is not necessarily saying masturbation is the key. It is not, having sex is. But masturbation can be a good alternative for the time being. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 01:06 PM
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Well I don’t think I have an urge to masturbate. You can correct me if I am wrong, but masturbation by itself has no purpose. That is something we created to make ourselves feel good or fight other urges. I have an urge to reproduce. I have an urge to have sex. I have the urge to impregnate my gf as an example. It has a purpose. Handjobs, blowjobs, foot jobs, anal, etc… those are all inventions of humans to enjoy ourselves without having actual sex. So I do masturbate, a LOT. To be able to contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 12:46 PM
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Maybe he is afraid you might take it the wrong way? I know I wish I didn’t have to masturbate if I was married. I hope I won’t need to watch porn or masturbate. But if my wife is not giving me what I want, I can’t and won’t force her, so I will just do it myself but I definitely would feel like I’m betraying her for doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 12:17 PM
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I would say to say it’s wrong to say the sexual urge is “too powerful”. I think what differs us from animals is the fact that we can put aside our desires for something better. I don’t think it is too powerful. I think people just make a decision to give into sex. That’s it. Just like giving into drinking, smoking, drugs, and anything else. How do I expect to find myself a virgin? That is a good question. I personally am 21 years old and I am a virgin by choice. No, not for religious reasons, I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 04:02 AM
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A lot of people most care since we keep having the same post over and over again
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 03:22 AM
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We all have preference. I’m sure if someone were to ask you for your perfect gf you would say a model, most men want a gf that looks like a model, however, rarely do men say “eeew you are pretty but you are not model pretty”. Women may say they want a 6+ feet man, they will take a lot shorter though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:35 PM
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Talks bad about my family. Doesn’t respect my time and love with my family(my dads ex wife would not let him kiss his mom, my grandma.) Not willing to talk about our relationship, what we like and dislike about each other. Not willing to be maleable. Not willing to change. Going out with guys without me. Not acting as a team
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 06:08 AM
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It was a pretty sad story. The mom did tell my gf that if he had not died, she would have finally given him a chance. Poor dude. My gf always liked him, claims he was always a better step father than the one she has now
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:38 AM
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My girlfriends mom had a guy that apparently has always been in love with her since middle school. My gf is from a very small town in rural USA. The mom got knocked up on high school by as my own gf says “a player”. She married to this man. The guy cheated and they got divorced. Through out this whole emotional and hard time the guy who was in love with her since middle school was there for her. He helped her emotionally and with the kids. She even made him “godfather” of one of the kids. They d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:08 AM
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Not Asian, Latin America! Not rich either! And I did get help from my dad, he gave me an old car worth $2,000 dollars at the time. I’m not being sarcastic here, I genuinely think this was a huge help, otherwise I would have had to work on a lower paying job at first to make enough to buy a car and then finally get to the job that paid more money. The car was a huge help. Other than that, I was very emotional supported and loved as well as raised right, which is a huge huge thing. In terms of loa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:45 AM
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The I need to find myself to me it’s bs. The feeling of missing out, I can see that but I don’t think i would have a problem cause it’s not like she missing someone else. She just doesn’t know if she would miss something, is the curiosity rather than the desire
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 10:58 PM
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Again. I never said this was the average. In every single comment I have made it clear I don’t even believe this is the majority of women’s lives. I will say it one more time hopefully this time it will stick. What I am saying is not the MAJORITY of women. You would be correct about me not being originally from the USA. I do live in the usa now. Austin Texas, one of the hottest and expensive markets right now. Where I bought my first home. Is 100k minimum good enough to have a home, keep a famil…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 08:35 PM
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Well I wasn’t raised in the 80s or 90s. I was raised in the 2000s and siblings in the 2010s. All had people that took care of them. I can name right now two friend from the top of my head that are able to to afford this right now. Their kids are 9 and 5 and they afford this. They are not rich. They are not millionaires. But they have a good job. I am well aware of the house cost now days. You can look back in my history where I talk about how proud I am of myself of becoming a homeowner at 19 ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 07:36 PM
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I mean to each their own. I think if someone wishes ti have a sex life and they are not getting it, that’s bad for them in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 06:35 PM
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Well as I made it clear above, but apparently not clear enough, I know not all stay home moms had this life, but if someone wants you to be a stay home mom, I don’t see why you would settle for less than what I would want. Second my logic is not flawed. Yes smaller kids are more work than bigger kids. However that doesn’t change the fact my mom had a person that lived with us cleaning the house and cooking and doing laundry and helping with kids. I mean of course at first when is it a brand new …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:28 PM
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Well I’m not denying that there is hard working moms. As I mentioned, before. This is the lifestyle you can definitely get without kids. With kids, you can definitely get it too but not everyone gets it. The lifestyle I mention is not a lie, it’s a reality for many women and stay home partners. Is it the majority? No. But it is a reality to many. My mom as an example as well as plenty of their friends had this lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:07 PM
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Well again, this is why I push her to study and get “work ready” so that even if she wishes to end our relationship or I did or something, she doesn’t feel trapped. She wouldn’t be a “hostage” because she has all the means to make it on her own. And I would also say a relationship like this one is reciprocal. Just because she is not making any money does not mean it’s reciprocal and it’s very simple minded to think like that. People have different requirements. So if I do something for her I lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:02 PM
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I’m not an idiot when I have seen it first hand. My mom was a stay home mom and she had this lifestyle as well as plenty of her friends. Now I will say my mom was smart. She ended up marrying a guy who made a good amount. I will say I have no children of my own but I have taken care of my baby niece for two weeks. My sister in law had a family emergency and had to go back home. So my brother was left alone with their baby and he worked full time. He asked me to help him and I lived with him for …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 11:57 AM
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I’d still disagree. I do think the first few years of having kids would be a lot of work, but even so I’d say it’s a lot better than working the 8 hour shift. Having said that, I do realize some people rather work 8 hours a day doing really hard stuff than just being at home and taking care of kids. And that is an okay choice. Me personally, I’d rather stay with kids
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 11:50 AM
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Well I’m using it from the experience I got to see with my own family. That was my moms life growing up. We had someone to clean the house and cook. My mom only had to love us and help with hw. Other than that everything else was done by someone we hired.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 03:46 AM
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Definitely 1,2,3 and 4. I personally don’t have 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:40 AM
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100% but that wouldn’t be equal. If she decides to want an intelligent man doesn’t mean she has to put effort to be intelligent either is my whole point! It doesnt have to be equal. I think it’s closer about being fair. If all I want is for her to be hot and she wants X Y and Z. It’s fine if she wants all of that as long as she fulfills my desire for her to be hot. I want to clarify I’m not saying that is the only requirement I have for her, it was more of an example
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:13 PM
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Well that is exactly why I push my gf to study because of there chance I won’t. But I push her I don’t require her to. I don’t require a partner to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:04 PM
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I don’t think it’s equal. My gf says she wanted someone smart, I don’t care if she is smart or not. My gf says she wanted someone taller than her, I don’t care how tall she is. My gf says she doesn’t care if I get chubbier, I do I don’t want her getting chubby. We all have different standards and just because you don’t meet those same standards doesn’t mean you must try to follow them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:41 PM
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I’ll say my thoughts as an older brother. I personally would love to play the stereotypical “female role”. I would love to be a stay home bf or husband or father. I would love to spend my days going to gym, going to get coffee or shopping with my friends, going golfing, going paddle boarding, etc while my wife works to provide. I think this is an amazing life. And all I would have to do Is just to be available to my partner whenever they want. I am all for that. Sadly, when talking to girls, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:37 PM
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Very true! But if she has no sexual desire, I would assume she wouldn’t feel sexually jealous
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:28 AM
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Because she has dated before and she has dated more than one person at the same time? She hasn’t had sex. But they still dated. Though I know on her last relationship, the two other partner did have sex between them. But to your second point, I don’t think he pressing a button on her phone will have harmful effect on the physice
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 04:20 AM
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So she is technically poly. When we met she was very cleared that she was poly and that she was willing to trying being monogamous. Apparently I fulfill her completely and she doesn’t feel the need for other people like she has in the past but that she would definitely be open to that if it came to be since she has done it in the past. She claims having a third person in a relationship is very different from me just having someone I pay or something online for fun. So again, we would cross that …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:36 AM
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So I brought up the option to me just having fun online. That way it’s not emotional and never in person you know. Her take is and I will paraphrase here “I don’t like it. You belong to me. I’m supposed to be the only one that you have sex with and you will have sex with me.” I then ask something like what if you don’t like it “well too damn bad for me I guess. I will give you sex. I’m not losing you to anyone”. Now this is her first reaction but I know she is being like possessive and playful. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:42 AM
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Yeah I talked about all of them more in depth on an earlier comment in this same thread but I’ll mention them quickly Not full on sex but things like hand jobs maybe blowjobs instead. If not that then interactive toys that she can use on me Kinks like dominating putting me in chastity and other things Maybe allowing me to do like online session with other girls Perhaps full on me able to be sexually with other people Etc I have them in descending order. The less she wants to do the lower we get.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:27 AM
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I mean free use is not the only option. If she decides it hurts her or makes her feel too much like an object and she doesn’t like it, than we have other options before we call it quits. I understand what you are saying. It is also true some people like feeling like objects. And we do little practices on our own to mimic the future as much as possible. But of course it’s not the same but it’s to get an idea
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:20 AM
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Well my take on it is that im a virgin and so is she. I have been able to have a good healthy relationship with her so far. Why would that change? And I don’t see why seeing sex as a duty is so bad? It’s just as bad as any other duty in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:07 AM
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Yes definitely not the best option. But it could definitely work assuming both parties are willing to compromise
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:02 AM
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I hope that won’t be our case. If it ends up being ours I hope we can figure out but if not than it has been made clear divorce would be the next thing. Thank you for your kind words.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 12:42 AM
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I think you are totally right and it’s definitely dangerous and we need to be very careful with it. The reason why we have talked about this one, it’s because we are both on Reddit a lot and we read about peoples issue and we have read about a lot of girls who has a low libido and used free use as a way to feel less pressured and it actually increased their libido. I don’t know how often it happens but it is a common answer we have seen in threads of people with low libido. But you are totally r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 12:40 AM
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Me personally I want a fairy tale relationship or close as possible. I’m also very competitive and constantly comparing people. I’ve dated 2 people so far, my ex and my now gf. The reason why I didn’t do anything with my ex, and I mean anything. I only kissed her once and it was a peck, was because I do not want to be dating someone, fall in love, but also think my ex kissed better. My ex did this better. I’m too competitive to stop thinking about it. For that reason I never went past a quick pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 12:12 AM
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I see. I personally think that there is times depression is okay and doesn’t need a therapist. I again use the example of a parent who is depressed because he can’t make enough money to feed his children. I don’t think he should go to therapy. What I think he should do is figure out how to make more money. Once he does, and his kids have enough food to eat and have a better life, if he is still depressed, than it’s another deeper issue since he is now providing and fixed the issue and should go …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 11:47 PM
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I definitely affect your sex life for the worse. I don’t think it’s necessarily the cause or symptom either. I think it’s a loop. So a boy is growing up and he doesn’t have anyone that wants to be with him and sleep with him. why? Most people will go it’s because of women! Some will go it’s because of men! I think it is most likely because of both depending on the situation. Some boys really have no traits that make them attractive to their female counterparts. In this case they need to work on …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:59 PM
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I think the issue is he does want sex. So though it’s perfect for asexual partner, unless he is willing to change his lifestyle to that of an asexual one, or for the asexual partner to become sexual, it wouldn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:46 PM
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I mean i wouldn’t say that he is doing it for attention. I think he is truly depressed because he believes he will never find love because he believes many women are like you and won’t take a tiny penis men for anything in the world. Meaning if he worked out a bunch, had the best personality, and worked really hard to get a ton of money, he believes he would still not find love. If this was true, I think this is a legit reason to be depressed. I don’t think this is a call for attention. Of cours…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:41 PM
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I have not seen this Reddit thread and I thank you for the recommendation and I will definitely look into it. She is not on birth control but we are also young. I’m 21 she is 19. She think it’s just that as she continues to get older she will desire it more. She doesn’t hate playing with herself. She mentions she likes for example using a vibrator, but she doesn’t enjoy using her hands. She feels good and she enjoys it but she doesn’t have a desire to do it again necessarily. Like I’ve explained…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:38 PM
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Do I want to be? Yes. But I feel like it is unfair for me to ask for a virgin partner when I am not one myself. So I choose to stay a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:22 PM
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Well you are asking to stop doing something that bothers someone. Do something that makes me happy and do something to take away my pain. So as an example buying me a gift is buying me something that makes me happy. Paying a bill I owe is instead taking away a stress I had on my shoulders. Difference between taking away pain and giving pleasure. Having said that, we both would meet in the middle. So I want it every day. She wants it never. So maybe we do once a week or once a month. That is her …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:21 PM
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That is very true. You never once said you spoke to all women. I should have rephrased it better. If it is all women, than a therapist wouldn’t help fix his issue. If it’s not all women, than a therapist would not help fix this issue either. What would help it? Finding that woman that doesn’t care. I am concerned about mental health when it can be fixed by it. If I am sad at the fact that I’m poor and can’t pay for my child’s food. This is not a therapy issue. I should go to therapy so I’m not s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:10 PM
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I would say as long it doesn’t hurt, than probably have sex. But I have my more in depth answer about my relationship on a different comment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:05 PM
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I can answer the first question very easily in my opinion. I think there is a difference in making someone happy and asking them to make you happy. So I think in a healthy relationship if someone hates horror movies, than the person who loves them will not ask the person who hates it to see it. However, i think if the person who hates horror movies love the other person, he or she will from their own will make plans to watch the new horror movie coming up and surprise the person that does love h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:04 PM
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In this case yes. I usually am very pro therapy. I have been to 3 different therapist and I loved it. But I do think there is things that therapy can’t do. It can’t magically for example, make you have a big dick or very least a dick that a woman can feel. If he is as tiny as he makes it seem and your comment is true nothing would make up for it, than he won’t ever find a partner. If it’s stereotypical of a man to say therapy can’t magically make you grow your penis to the point women might actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:58 PM
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I will say though, what would be the help in seeing a therapist when women, like yourself, with good reason are admitting the fact nothing would make up for the fact that he has a tiny penis. What is therapy going to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:53 PM
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I see. I’m virgin myself and my gf wants to wait till marriage so it is definitely something I worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:50 PM
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Wouldn’t you extend that same believe with sex? Like with my last relationship, she wasn’t as clingy as I am so I had bring down my level of clinginess for her. My current gf is the opposite a lot more clingy than me so I had to increase my level of clinginess. She is the type that doesn’t want to let go of you. Whether is holding your hand, grabbing your pinky, sitting on your lap, hugging you while you cook, etc. she is very touchy, even if I am feeling a bit tired I would still let her be as …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:49 PM
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Are your friends married to virgin men happy with their sex life? It sounds to me that men have it easier to organs than women by a lot which would make it a lot harder on the women since she is married to someone with no experience
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:44 PM
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Is it painful or just don’t feel any pleasure and feel like someone rubbing your elbow?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:42 PM
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Question. Do you think anything in marriage ever feels like a duty? And if so, is it correct? Like spending time with your in laws because your wife or husband want to spend time with their parents. Perhaps you don’t hate them but you don’t want to spend time with them. Don’t you think it’s part of a duty in any relationship to do things that you might dislike or not want to do to please your partner? Christmas comes along, do you compromise one year and then he or she compromises next year beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:36 PM
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Good question something I think a lot about. My current partner is a virgin and she wishes to stay a virgin until marriage. I am a virgin and not necessarily want to wait till marriage but I am willing to for her. The topic of this post has come to our relationship plenty of times. There is few things that we do and will continue to do to prevent this. Like we are constantly researching about what other couples do and like, we explore with ourselves(not together) to see what we like, what we dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:29 PM
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Most men tell girls who are bad guys. Specially fathers and brothers are constantly telling women who are good and bad men. I believe women hate being told who are good and bad men. But to say that “it may seem obvious to other men but they sure to fuck don’t tell us!” Is disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:54 PM
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Could it be both? I don’t think this conversation shouldn’t be and it’s not an attacked on one Gender in specific. We need to be realistic even if it hurts. As a man I can say we suck. We don’t treat women as good as they should be treated. Is there some people who will treat them good? Yes there is. Are they the majority? Heck no. Now that we see the issue. We need to understand the root of the problem. Is the problem the fact that men are congratulated for this behavior? Yes. What’s more impor…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:46 PM
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I do prefer it. Personally I get icky very easily. The thought of salive, tongue of someone else (the dirtiest part of the human body) to then mix with my gfs mouth(again, dirtiest part of the human body) I find it very icky. If she hasn’t kissed anyone before I feel a lot better knowing that this is something only her and I have done. Same thing with the rest of her body. My current gf is a virgin. My past ex wasn’t and it did bother me a lot and it was something I just had to deal with, but It…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:40 PM
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I personally don’t think women find men sharing their emotions disgusting like that. That I completely agree with you, you don’t find those types of women. However, I do believe many(not all) if not most women act differently around us after we open up. For example, my ex and I had a beautiful relationship. At some point she started acting different and in no time she ended up cheating on me. Now I am sure there has to be many reasons why things changed and I am sure it’s just a coincidence… but…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 03:39 AM
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Interesting. Would I wear a sleeve? Yes. Would I be happy about it? No. I would be extremely sad and possibly insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:43 AM
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I agree. I don’t think women care as much as men. And I think that is the issue, we tend to believe what we care about other people do, what we like other people do. Since men are very competitive, we compare each other and other people constantly, I definitely compare my ex to my current gf, and my gf wins every time. But at the same time, I made sure to take it extremely slow so there is very little to compare thankfully. But I can’t help but compare, I’m glad and happy my partner is better in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:01 AM
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I mean i think the whole point of this reddit is to do just that. Go in depth about any topic, specially controversial ones like this. Having said that, I think it’s more than necessary to have this conversation. This conversation could open up their eyes one way or another. It can definitely affect your relationship for better of for worse. Talking about the benefits and cons is necessary to have the best information to give us the best chance to make the best decision. I personally I’m not “ob…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:53 AM
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I mean anything can become bad and unhealthy if it’s obsessive, that much is true. I don’t see people becoming obsessive about it? Like is simply closing yourself of to only dating virgins obsessive? I know some girls who claim they would never date a virgin since it’s too much pressure or because at our age, the older you get, every year it gets weirder and weirder. They would be obsessive too by that definition. I don’t see people actually becoming obsessive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:45 AM
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I personally have because I would feel horrible for my partner. I have choose to stay a virgin because I don’t want to compare my future wife. Yes I have thought about it deeply. Why? Because I deeply think about what I want in the future. The last thing I want is to be dissatisfied sexually and be thinking of an ex or something
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:30 AM
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Why is what something men are so obsessed with?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:20 AM
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I agree. That is why I don’t necessarily like option 3. I am a sucker for option 1 or 2. Option 3 I would hate, but if I fell in love for that person and she doesn’t want option 1 or 2, my only alternative is 3
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 10:06 PM
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I don’t date for fun or have casual sex or anything like that so I can’t say I know for sure for enjoyment… if I were to assume, I’d say probably someone who will please me sexually. Now what do I want to marry. This is one is more complicated. I personally think it has everything to do with what my partner wants. I am personally very maleable. So if she wants a man that will take care of her financially. This is easy, be submissive, let me lead, want to please me in every way she can, how to dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:14 PM
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Lucky man!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 09:08 PM
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No it’s not. As someone who I’d say in relationships tend to lean towards RP more than not, it is not for everyone. Do I think it would be better for everyone, perhaps society? Yes. Do I think it would make everyone happier? Nope. Some people are stubborn and want to be unhappy or just don’t want an easy life
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:31 PM
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I mean i definitely think the way you talk seems like you are trolling. But assuming you are not, the feeling is totally understandable. The only thing you can do is either be a good friends for her and put your feelings aside or simply get away from her all together
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:10 PM
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I’ve never heard that women shouldn’t have rights but then again, I only have 2 guy friends and a bunch of girl friends. There is also the problem of what is considered a human right changes based on person to person sadly. Of course there is some universal, but usually the ones that are debated are the ones that are up to discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:07 PM
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I get what you mean. There if a fine line between stalking and simply noticing. I noticed how girls I really liked or love are changing into what I personally would not consider a better self. It makes me sad, it hurts me, and I feel bad knowing that only if I had stayed if we did have something or if they have given me a chance if we didn’t, how much better their lives would be now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:03 PM
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There is a difference between beta, alphas, and real submissive and dominant. When I hear beta.. I think of more of a man who doesn’t have a very good job, isn’t motivated, just goes with the flow, etc, but might or might not want someone who will want to control them.. in other words lazy people. An alpha I see as someone who’s got his life together, knows what he wants, is hard working, takes care of himself, etc. to me, an alpha could very much be confident but submissive. Or a beta could be …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 08:00 PM
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Parent to child? Definitely. Romantic relationship? Extremely rare but It can happen. I think there is more people than we think but we often call those people obsessed and make them think they’re are crazy and have to then get help to forget about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:38 AM
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It depends. I am extremely big on consequences. I don’t believe there should be an easy way out of things. That’s why I don’t believe you get pregnant by choosing to have sex you should get an abortion or if you choose to eat like crap and not workout why should the government pay to keep you healthy, if you made wrong choices and you are now unemployed why should the government take care of you… I want to believe in consequences.. that there is good and bad.. However… it would be just mental to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:20 AM
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I think this has to be talked about more. I am personally pro choice in the following adoption, motherhood, contraceptives, abstinence, and abortion in cases of rape or life threatening situation of the mother. But even I that am not okay with abortion just for fun or convenience, I have to admit the fact that economically speaking it will help at least in the short term. To deny this is denying reality. Now there is people who believe this will cause economical issues way down the line, but thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:11 AM
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It’s definitely not that decision. His whole book is about how civilization have ended time and time again in history and if we follow their trends, we are close to a civilization colapse. The civilization collapse is not because we are having less babies, but when the civilization collapse as it will inevitably will do someday as it has happened to every civilization in history, we will need to have more babies.. the more people we have today, the more people left when it collapses. To say that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:06 AM
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Well there are some experts, I’ll say it is not the majority, that believe we actually have a very few babies are born issue. Professor William MacAskill of university of Oxford is a big advocate of this, big part of his book what we owe the future talks about the slow down of babies and how detrimental for the world it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 01:48 AM
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Yes. Out of curiosity, would you say then that it is bad for an 18 year old to date let say a 19 year old if he has a good job, his own home, able to provide for the 18 year old, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 05:54 PM
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Depends.. if the conversation naturally developed then I would not be turned off. If she was like “hey my name is Amanda I make 150k a year and can provide for you.. nice to meet you” I’d probably stick around because that is a wild thing to say and would make me interested but I’d be a lot more carful with her for the rest of the night
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:55 PM
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I agree with this however I would say that is an issue of financial dependency, not an age gap issues. I could be wrong, but of all the stories I hear of age gap here.. most of them is between 2 people who are not necessarily wealthy. I don’t see many stories of she fell in love and he gave her everything.. it’s mostly she fell in love with an average dude.. who is working his way up and can’t provide.. he just happens to be older. In those scenarios… when there is no financial dependency.. the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:48 PM
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Times definitely change you are right about that. I guess my view is very skewed since in my family and close friends this happens a lot. I talked on another comment here about my brother. He was 18, she was 15-16 and they are now married and have been together almost 15 years. Another brother has been together with his wife since they were both 18 and it’s been over 10 years. 2 cousins of mine also high school sweethearts and one just turned 8 years married and the other one over 10. I will say…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:46 PM
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I will agree with that! I guess I was thinking of marriage not in the legal manner but more in the emotional way. Like my brother had been dating the same girl since he was 18 and she was 15-16 and they dated for 12 years and then finally got married. But to our whole family.. they have been married for way longer since they were living together since he was like 21 or 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:42 PM
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I will agree that most people sadly don’t know who they are. I personally can’t understand it cause I have always known who I am but I guess you could make the argument I don’t know what I am talking about since I am 21. I would have married when I was 18 if I had the chance, I would marry right now if I have the chance. I will agree if she is marrying because she needs a father figure, of course that would be the dad to blame. However, some people just know what they want in life. My mother had…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:28 PM
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Putting the age difference aside. Why is it so wrong to want to marry at a young age? I personally find the idea of hooking up not of my liking. I just want to find someone I can love and explore the world with. No need to be playing games with a bunch of people. Why is marriage a sign you failed as a parent?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:12 PM
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Allowed? Of course. Heck they don’t need permission. Red pill people will simply say that makes you undesirable to those men. Is it a bad thing? Not really. I mean if you are sleeping around with a bunch of men, you most likely don’t care or want the stereotypical traditional man anyway. The problem is if you want that traditional man that will take care of you, sleeping around makes you undesirable to them. In terms of why those men claim they wish they did the same. I think it’s simple. Both m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:11 PM
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I don’t care if she is career focused. I don’t mind if she makes more money than me. All I care about is that she will be loyal, good partner, compatible, gorgeous, very sexual, but I also do care that she is educated. The reason why I care if she is educated, is to make sure she can push that on my kids. I’m not sure where it when I read this but I remember hearing that the education level on the father makes no difference on the kids education. He could be rich and high school drop out or rich…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 10:44 PM
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Yes so my take on this is not the fact that you are doing something inappropriate but rather the fact that as human we can all fall for someone else. Being with other girls will increase the chance I will fall for someone else just like my gf being with other guys will increase the chance of them falling for someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 05:06 AM
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Oh no yes. Perhaps I should have been more specific. When I say I stop talking to them I didn’t mean entirely. I meant more in the sense of me hanging out with them by myself or me calling them at night to talk for hours, etc. I totally agree and do what you said about only hanging out with them as long as my gf is with. Still plan things with them with my gf involved, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 05:04 AM
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I agree. I personally have only two guy friends and a bunch of girl friends. But all of them know the moment I am dating I will not talk to them. If they want us to talk to hang out, they talk to us, me and my gf, never just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 06:36 AM
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So few things here. Of course if a guy is just like hey you know where X street, she should definitely answer and not be like I have a man back off. So I don’t mean don’t talk to any person of the opposite sex. But going back to what you said about friends.. yes. Why does she need specifically a man friend. Like you said, that is only 50%, meaning she has another half equal to billions of people she can be friends with. Of course if she is at work or family reunions or thing she is forced to tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 06:18 AM
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I disagree with the lack of trust. Cause I don’t think you should ever trust anyone. The only thing I trust is the fact that we are humans and humans make mistakes. Having said that, I think you are right about the mentality thing. As an example, I’ve seen relationships were they never needed to put those boundaries cause the boundaries were already set by themselves. Let say a woman is getting talked to by a guy One woman says : sorry I can’t to talk to you, my bf doesn’t like me talking to oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:28 PM
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In my personal experience it has lead to some amazing relationships to family members and friends of our whole lives that have been with us. Amazing couples who I can only describe in two words eternal love
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:47 PM
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Correct. They might say they would only date 6 feet and up, but most of the time they just say things because they didn’t it think it through.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:47 PM
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Those are a lot of questions but overall my take on why we do this is the following. I don’t see the point of having a life partner if that partner isnt your life. I would not want to be with someone who doesn’t mean the world to me. If she doesn’t mean the world to me than she is just a friend. And if she means the world to me, than you will 100% be afraid to lose her. And the other way around or at least should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 03:46 PM
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Personally from day one. Specially with the risk of pregnancy, I only date from day one(day one being when I was sexually attracted to girls) with the intention of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 03:01 AM
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I agree. That is why I said men who are willing to shave for their partner aren’t hypocritical and those who aren’t willing are hypocritical
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 02:47 AM
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I don’t think they are hypocrites unless they are not willing to shave either. As an example, I personally think men look better with body hair, but my current partner hates body hair so I am willing to shave it. After all, at that point it would be hypocritical of me not to when I ask her to shave it all as well. However, if I like my woman shave, and she happened to like me hairy, than it’s not hypocritical of me to stay hairy since I am doing it for her
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 02:41 AM
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I am too correct. I don’t mean like on math or on grammar or such(though I wish… as English is my second language I always want my grammar to be perfect but far from it). Like apparently I am annoying worried about always doing the most correct stuff even if It might not seem the most popular. From making sure to follow all the etiquette rules of the table I know, to never not putting the other cheek, to never stop working to give a good life to my gf/wife, to not swearing, to correcting people …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:55 AM
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So when you say sexually attracted to woman but romantically attracted to men. What does romantically mean? Liking the physical better? Liking a man’s personality better?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:21 AM
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And also to make it clear if I didn’t, I don’t doubt that people just fall in love. I’m saying people shouldn’t. I’m saying that even when you fall in love, you are pushing the market one way or another
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 09:31 PM
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I’m not treating anything. I’m not saying I go with my life thinking and seeing markets everywhere I see. No one lives like that. What I am saying that things have a deep meaning and understanding behind it. Restaurants, for example, tend to use the color red to make you hungry or something like that. You are not thinking of it, but it is happening. If you paint a small room all black or dark colors, it will look smaller. If you wear a horizontal strip shirt because you like it, you might look f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 09:07 PM
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I don’t see relationships like shopping. It has nothing to do with relationships. It is just how life works in literally every aspect of life specially when it comes to human beings. As an example someone who has trouble making friends. What is their problem? Let say in this example this is a male, incel, doesn’t ever want to come out of his room, and the very few conversations he has are online and always end up with him becoming toxic. Would you want to be his friend? Heck no. There is certain…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:49 PM
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You are right it could be both lack of patience and compatibility. I will agree with that. I do disagree with what makes a good woman or good man. What makes a good man and a good woman is pretty basic but apparently very hard to follow. Liking the same movies, having the same sex desires, those are compatibilities issues but not showing a great man or woman, he could be an incredibly trashy man who you just happen to be very compatible. Compatibility and good or bad is two different things. We …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:19 PM
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So the second person was lack of patience in my opinion not lack of sexual comparability. The first guy was not a bad guy just didn’t understand that you can’t buy and iPhone with an android operating system. He wants the a wild girl with the history and experience and personality of a quiet religious shy girl, those two don’t match. Having clarified this, to go with the first thing you said of … takeaway of the last story… The take away of the last story is that after she came across a really g…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 07:55 PM
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I am in the usa. I immigrated here many years ago. I definitely am not a slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:01 PM
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I mean i think they have plenty of value. Lots of men(good looking good man) end up dating what other would call not so good looking woman. So the guy becomes let’s say a trophy husband in the sense that he is “too good” for her. He will take care of her for as long as he is alive. Treat her right. Love her. Probably give her kids. So I think you can have a lot of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:59 PM
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Oh hahahahahah! I get it now. I’m dumb. That was a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:56 PM
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I’m not sure if you are referring to the American as a slave or the Latino as the slave. Either way I don’t se it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:50 PM
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I definitely think it pushes boys. However, in my experience, coming from a tech family. Brothers and I work for big tech companies, all of our lives our dad pushed us to play with computers, learn about them, and always got us the newest toys, computers, phones. He treated us the same as my sister. Now you could make the argument it is never the same, and that is a good argument, I would be fine agreeing maybe he wasn’t as pushy about tech with her as he was with us. However, he was still very …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:49 PM
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This is 100% correct. It is quite natural and no one is at fault. It’s just like watching Netflix. Sometimes you spend hours just trying to pick something to watch to by the end not watching anything
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:18 PM
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Men are definitely inferior to women in since aspects of life. Just how women are definitely inferior than men in some aspects of life. However, many of those aspects are on average and can have exceptions. So for example, men are usually superior in STEAM field because men are more interested in things and women are more interested in people. However, that doesn’t mean a woman can’t just study a lot and become the best scientist we have ever seen. Though as a rule, it would still be true on ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:17 PM
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This is true. The question is “is it okay?”. I can happily say I don’t think it’s okay to make people insecure and feel bad about themselves. However, I do think it’s okay to play for our market. So as a straight man, I want a relationship right, so I will follow the trends of the market that show to get men a woman. And who controls the market of men, women. So women get to decide what is attractive or not and that is fine, does it suck sometimes since you need to change? 100%, but it is fair. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:11 PM
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Because she wants something out of you. I’m an immigrant from poor Latin American country living in the USA. It is encouraged, and for a good reasons, to find yourself an American partner no matter if they are ugly and dislike them just so you can become legal. I know a few people in my family, and know plenty of stories of other people who did just that. Specially women. They don’t love the guy, many of them don’t find them even attracted. But they needed the guy, so they showed “love”, support…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 01:02 PM
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Different expectations for both genders. Women: more social. But at the same time shy. Loud with her friends but quiet in general. Good with kids. Very artistic and in touch with her emotional side. Knows how to enjoy the simple aspects of life like going to the park, having a picnic, taking pictures, walk-in along the river, going to the mall, getting coffee, etc. make the men work hard for her. Don’t say yes to anyone. Be a strong and hard gatekeeper if you will when it comes down to being wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 12:58 PM
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I think it’s a little bit of both. But definitely more on the needed part. And most men, in my opinion, don’t care the reason why they are with them. As long as she treats me right, shows me love, supports me, is a good companion, and we have intimacy, I don’t really care why she is with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 12:42 PM
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First of all, I think this is an issue for both genders. The only reason why it is said to women more is because, in my opinion, I hear more women complaining about crappy men than men complaining about crappy women. Nevertheless, when my guy friends have complained about crappy women, I say the same thing to them “pick a better woman”. Second point. I don’t believe is that hard to pick good people, the problem in our lives is that good people are usually not that attractive. I’ll give an exampl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 02:47 PM
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Dating: I pay for everything. Unless I physically can’t like not accepting Apple Pay or Amex card or only cash. I don’t carry cash, I pay with Apple Pay, and I carry one card in case they don’t have Apple Pay, an Amex. If any of those don’t work, then they will pay. In relationship: same thing. They either work or they don’t, either way what they make is for them, what I make, is for her too. In terms on how much more I spent. A lot more. Gifts, amazing stuff they want, gas and their gas, their …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:36 PM
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Dating someone just to make someone else jealous, definitely immature. Talking about your partner because you love them, you find them amazing, and you want to tell the world how awesome your partner is, nothing wrong with this. Might be annoying to some people, but not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 01:31 PM
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Just because not everyone will fit in a group, doesn’t mean we shouldn’t group them. Examples: Humans have 2 arms and 2 legs. Are there people who were born with 3 arms or 1 arms or whatever, of course! Are they any less human? Of course not. It’s something terrible and I would never wish it to anyone. However, it is safe to say humans have 2 arms and 2 legs. Another example, men rape. Of course there is women who rape. Of course not all men rape. But men rape more than women by a lot. It is saf…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:34 PM
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So same life experience I would say does not fit. For example, a huge proportion of the USA citizens have never even applied for a passport. Even if she is my own age, they likeliness that she has traveled and experienced the world as much as I have it’s low. I can very well find myself a younger woman that has lived closer experiences to me than an older woman. It’s really random. Cultural nostalgia? If I were to go for this, I’d have to date an 50+ year old woman and I am in my 20s. I’m always…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:14 PM
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Oh showing texts it’s a little much haha. It definitely sounds like he needs some help. And it sounds like he was the one who brought up his ex which makes it worse. You are a very nice person to staying just to help him though!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:18 PM
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Well I’m glad you did talk about the important stuff! That is great! I can’t say it enough, we need to have those conversations early on and I’m glad you did! I disagree on the ex thing but I think we both agree on the other important conversations!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:47 PM
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I understand the fact about wounds. I just don’t think mentioning your exes means wounds. I think it depends on who brings it up. I won’t bring up my exes unless I am asked, if she only talked about her exes because I asked then I don’t see them as damaged. Everything you mentioned y’all talk about is great, but to me it doesn’t sound like you got the important stuff like family values, religion or lack there off, expectations, morals, politics. I can find tons of people I get along with and hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:41 PM
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I disagree. Most of us don’t even think of the choices we make that deep. We have a very tip of the iceberg idea of who we are and what we want. The more information we have the better. I think questions about the past is totally okay on the first day and should be encouraged just as much as questions about politics, religion or lack there off, and values. Why date someone for months only to find out later on you don’t want the same things and beak up. Might as well get it over on the first date…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:51 PM
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So few issues there. Perhaps I misunderstood you, but are you saying someone who has been cheated shouldn’t date? I mean at some point they should, should they not? My second issues is the idea that people know what they want. I’ve met plenty of people who claim they want something and then they meet someone who has that and they hate it. It’s like when you hear people saying oh I hate drama, but then as you get to know them, you find out they are constantly creating drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:24 PM
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I am of the belief that your past relationship say a lot about you. As an example, a girl I went out on a date with, she ended up saying she didn’t like the guy was very clingy, I asked about how he was clingy and the things he did to not like him anymore. I realized quickly we wouldn’t work because thanks to asking of her exes, I figured out I am too clingy for her too so we ended the date, thanked her for a the time, and told her we were compatible. If all of her exes end with cheating on her …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:13 PM
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Do you believe this questions can happen organically too? Like where did you go to school? Oh I started at X but then left for Y. Why did you leave? Oh went for my bf and ended things so I left the school. Oh what happened to you two? I find this pretty organic
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:49 PM
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I don’t blame you for not understanding. This happen a lot on both side of the aisle, people are not the best at explaining themselves. I definitely consider myself a centrist, but I do agree with some of the beliefs of the RED pill community. I’m not that deep into it so I could very much be wrong too, but here goes my understanding of it, at least to what is connected to what you mentioned above. When they mention women are naturally hypergamous, I don’t think they mean gold digger and only ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:01 AM
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I am pro choice in the case of rape and medically necessary abortion, pro life in everything else. What you are saying is 100% correct (of course there is exception to everything like a man getting raped, but as a general rule you are right), and I don’t think people deny this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:53 AM
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Though I do find the idea of equal standards acceptable, since I’m doing this myself. I also can’t help but think of the idea that we become the product our market desires. So the guy above mentioned conservative and hating promiscuity. So let’s say a conservative guy who wants a girl that has been “pure”. Well to find that girl, he now has to work on himself and gain the skills and factors needed for a conservative not promiscuous woman looks for in a man. What would you say if the desire of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:35 AM
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I think it’s very much alike. That woman is getting with 6 figure man and obviously making them less rich because she wants them to spend money on her?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 03:24 AM
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I mean. I am willing to have sex now. I can afford a baby if it came out way. I don’t want it, so hopefully she will want to use contraceptives. But for better or worse, I have a gf right now, and she is even worse than me haha, she wants to wait till marriage! Not my cup of tea.. but oh well haha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:03 AM
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Well I personally don’t want to wear a condom. And I know because I’m not doing this, it is unfair of me to ask my partner to use birth control specially since it affects her body in unimaginable ways that a condom wouldn’t obviously. This is why I don’t ask them to take birth control. But if she wanted to, from her own desire get birth control, than that is fine
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:56 AM
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Yes I am aware of this. But I don’t want to play my odds on a maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:49 AM
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I do agree that each relationship creates their own boundaries. What I guess I mean is the fact that it’s been so normalize to believe asking is wrong. It’s like pologyma. The norm is the fact that when you go into a relationship, it is assumed it’s monogamous but of course if a couple talks about it, then it’s fine to be otherwise. I’m a kinky person, but if I were to go into a new relationship, I wouldn’t just jump into it spanking then and restraining them. The norm is vanilla first. I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:32 PM
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So you are saying the feelings are still there, but either by societal pressure or the fact that it’s impossible to find a virgin, they choose to look past it or act as if they don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:16 PM
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I definitely want children just not right now. I would be willing to risk it if she was using a bc or something like that. My only concern at that point would be if it does happen, at least with my ex, she told me in advanced she would abort it. I can’t tell her what to do but I wouldn’t be able to live knowing that if she got pregnant that she aborted it so I just choose not to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:15 PM
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I would say as a demographic they have. More and more men every day, certainly more than ever was, do not have a problem with women having had partners in the past. Otherwise there would be an incredible amount of single women and only virgins would be the ones in relationships. In fact there is many men who will not date virgins. Only experienced women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:28 PM
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But wouldn’t you say the same thing about food? Sometimes I’m not hungry and friends or family ask me to go out with them. They tell me they are going to a Brazilian steakhouse. I might not be hungry but the moment they say Brazilian steak house, I see the picaña and steaks coming to you in my head and I get a taste for it and then I’m like you know what I do want some now. But before I didn’t have a taste nor hunger.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:22 PM
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Hi there! Sorry did I do something wrong? I can try to edit the post in a better way if there is something wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:15 PM
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I didn’t want to risk pregnancy. I did not have the monetary ability to take care of a baby if the baby came to be. So instead I told her, we won’t do anything sexual until we can take care of a baby if that were to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:14 PM
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I mean i would be very carful to say hornyness was overwhelming. If we are both starving and wanting to find a quick restaurant and I mentioned this new one and she just says fine because we are both starving, I don’t think I did anything wrong. The only situation that makes sense is if I have been eating, I am completely full, and I have purposely forcing her to not eat. Then yeah that is wrong. But to translate to that to sex, that would mean she has been edging me for long, and she has been g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:13 PM
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I would like to agree with the intention argument, but then you have crazy people who think killing someone was for their benefit. So they didn’t have a bad intention, in their crazy mind, they thought they were doing good. But I understand this is an exception, so as a general rule you are right I think. Let me ask you something though. How often can one ask? Like let say my ex gf was trying to convince her and I tell her I need more time. When is she allowed to ask again? The day after. The we…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:10 PM
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Yes. But what if it’s someone, like in my case, that it wasn’t that I wasn’t ready or that I was nervous. I just didn’t want to risk pregnancy. It’s not that we are sexually incompatible, though we very much could we, it was just that I was waiting for more money
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:05 PM
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I will disagree. There is definitely things that we should be pushing people to do. Pushing your partner to have fun and do what makes them happy because they have be brainwashed to believe they must pleased their parents is not wrong. I talked in another comment about how I was so afraid and embarrassed to danced as a kid and my parents pushed me and some might even say pressured me into dancing. I am so grateful they pushed me in that diraction cause there is nothing that I love more. To say t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:03 PM
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My ex was very sexually needy and was not used to guys not wanting to sleep with her all the time. But I can certainly say she wasn’t manipulative since she never got her way. Except with spoiling her, but that is because I love spoiling girls so that is one me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:00 PM
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Almost agreed. My problem with this, there is people who will never get out of their shells unless someone, something, or life itself pushes them out. Not saying you should force someone, but I do think it’s healthy to push people slowly to do new things. I remember when I was a kid I would never dance cause I was nervous, embarrassed, and fearful. My parents pushed me really hard to dance. Now I dance salsa, cumbia, bachata, and it is the best feeling in the world to get on the dance floor with…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:59 PM
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Agreed!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:56 PM
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So I would then beg the question what is coercion? The coercion I know has to involve threats. Looking at Merrimack Webster coercing means To compel(compel means “to drive or urge forcefully or irresistibly) to act or choice To achieve by force or threat To restrain or dominate by force
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:56 PM
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I don’t get it? Are you saying was she like this? A little, but all the girls I have dated have acted like that. But I also am the kind of guy who tries to spoil their girl. I still don’t get the point though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:52 PM
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I think the problem I have is with the line of pressuring. What is pressuring? Is simply telling a person how you feel pressuring them to do something? And if it’s different for everyone, I think this is dangerous and need to work on a more define line.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:51 PM
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I agree. Specially if you have been dating for a long time. Getting upset and treating your partner badly because you are not getting sex is immature and just wrong. But being frustrated because you haven’t had sex with your lifetime partner for months and saying something about it, wanting to talk about it, and trying to work things out, isn’t wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:48 PM
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I don’t get your point. My point is, maybe I have been in relationship with people who act like children, but sometimes I want to try a new restaurant. And they might not want to go, and I might say something come on, we haven’t been to a new place in so long, let’s go try something new. She didn’t want to, but I convinced her to go. Why can’t I say the same thing with sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:46 PM
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You are completely right. I didn’t mind nor got upset by it. At some point it would get annoying if it had been longer than hour and I would tell her “I said no plenty of times. It’s been an hour, I’m going to change the subject now.” And that was it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:44 PM
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Oh haha I see the humor now haha! Yes you certainly got it right. Now that is not to say that I don’t believe in promises at all. Ive made very little promises but I have fulfiled them, the amount of promises that have been made to me and haven’t been fulfilled is astonishing. Is that to say that no one can? Of course not. My dad when he first got married he promised his, at the time, wife that he would always financially take care of her. They have been divorced for over 30 years. All of the ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 08:00 PM
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I’m sorry English isn’t my first language. I’m not sure what non committal means. I looked up and I don’t get what you are trying to say. According to merriam Webster is to give no clear indication of attitude or feeling. I’m not sure what you mean. I think I have been pretty open with my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 07:50 PM
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Oh I’m sorry if it came out aggressive. I assure you I didn’t take your message as offensive and I hope you understand I wasn’t trying to be rude. I genuinely believe people ignore reality. I have been to therapy. Multiple therapist because I hate having the unpopular belief. It’s not pretty saying I don’t agree with you. So I have gotten to therapy so hopefully they can tell me I am wrong, I am mistaken, and tell me that this is bad. Out of the 3 therapist that I have seen, they haven’t. When I…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:21 PM
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I trust that they don’t want to right now. And I trust human nature to give in. Specially when alcohol is involved. If you don’t want to be with me that is fine, I understand most people want to live in a relationship were we forget about human nature. I don’t forget. Once again, most people that have cheated did not want to cheat in the first place. They partner trusted them and they trusted themselves. And this is with everything We should trust as in we take risk. I trust my partner won’t lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:16 PM
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It’s a really good question! My gf is bisexual too! We have had this conversation. So I’m not allowed to have a lot of gf friends. Definitely not to hang out by myself. But I don’t mind her seeing girls cause I personally don’t care if she were to sleep with a girl! Just don’t do it behind my back, let me know before hand. And that’s okay. So in my opinion, no you can have girl friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:05 PM
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Sounds to me like people have issues with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:03 PM
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I literally just said I don’t mix sex with feelings. I have delclined every chance of sex. Not even with my own gf I have accepted sex. The only one I have accepted sex to is my current gf and now she is the one declining(funny how things turned.. never been on the side of the street) I don’t see my friends as potential partner or hookups. But I am aware people change and in the future I could. So as much as I can promise my gf I don’t see them that way, I can’t possibly know how I will feel in …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:03 PM
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I disagree. It is normal to consider everyone a threat. Ask any women, they will consider any man walking down the street or at least most as a threat. And even when they know them, they are still carful because he could have just been a fake friend and tried to drug them or something. You should always consider someone a threat. How many times we need to get stabbed in the back to learn this? Having said this, I’m not saying don’t have friendships. We have to take risk. Even if that person coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:01 PM
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Well the reality is that none knows if they are gonna uphold their word forever. Things change in life. Life changes you. Ive seen couples that their whole life they were perfect for each other, but they met when they were financially stable, than something bad happens, they are financially bad, the stress is too much, people start not acting like their normals self, and the relationship ends. You never know what life will throw your way and it will change you. That is why i never promise anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:54 PM
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No I disagree. We can’t trust humanity as a whole. We have to admit that we are changing every day. You can trust them that they believe what they are saying TODAY, but tomorrow she or he could be a different person. So why make it more likely? Now I’m not saying no friends of the opposite sex whatsoever. I have a few friends that I have told my gf she cannot touch. The rest, if she doesn’t like them, I will want to talk about it and hopefully and convince her. But at the end of the day, if she …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:54 PM
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I trust they believe what they are saying. I trust they are not lying to me. But I also trust I don’t know what will happen tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:14 PM
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I don’t need to work on anything cause I would never trust any human. I can trust them enough to believe them. Like I believe you mean it, I believe you believe it. But at the end of the day we are humans. And to ignore our humanity.. just seems idiotic to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:06 PM
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Haha as someone who has declined sex from not only the few female friends that have tried something with me, and every girl that I have dated. I don’t think I see them as a possible hookup. I see it more like people, and people can change, people can fall in love. Admiting that is how humans work, I would totally understand if my gf wanted me to stop being friends with my female friends. After all I am human, even if I completely know that I could never do that with my friends, I understand her …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:04 PM
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I personally cannot understand why this is toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:40 PM
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I don’t know. I sort of like those rules for the most part haha
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:38 PM
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I’m not American but I did immigrate to the USA. Yes it makes total sense why it would be harder over there. Where I am from we didn’t have sprinklers, it was a pain to be watering your plans so I get what you are saying. Obviously in such situations it would be different. I personally think in a situation like the one we have in the USA. Where we have machines that cuts the grass themselves, vacuum themselves, and huge washers, sprinklers, totally different situations
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:37 PM
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Then perhaps it is a difference in culture. I’m a home owner but I live by myself. In terms of bills. They are all automatic. The only time I have had to call them is when the power has gone out because of a generator breaking. I have carpet sadly, but I still only vacuum once a week, since I have a rumba that is vacuuming every day. In terms of washing… you either have very little clothes or I just don’t understand why you would need to do laundry for your kids once a day or for yourself twice …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:00 PM
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I agree that if you work then obviously both will have to work at home. My only problem is with the former. I think it’s reasonable what you said specially if there is babies involved but once the kids are in school. And I’m going to say this by my experience with my sister in law and other young families that I know and we have talked about this. At home, rumba vacuums most of the stuff, you only need to vacuum personally once a week. Laundry, once a week. The biggest thing is cooking and kitch…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 02:40 PM
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If you don’t mind me asking, what do you see as 50/50? Would you say a man that is making I don’t know 150k a year, working to provide. Specially if there is no kids involved, would you say is fair if he expect the women to have the house clean and clothes washed and food once he gets home?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 02:17 PM
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I see! I will say that I don’t think the standards are the same. Like I don’t care if my woman is ambitious or not. But yes, we as man should do our best to fulfil those standards for woman and woman should do the same for man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:48 PM
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Well perhaps I’m misunderstanding the first comment. You said that “as a woman, you[i, the man] have to return the favor. Take care of [my] body. Don’t get far. And give [my] man sex.” Was that two separate ideas? I understood it as in by you, the woman, fulfilling my standards, I have to return the favor and fulfil your(women’s) standards being taking care of [my] body, don’t get fat, and have sex with [my] man.” I replaced every you and your with I or my. And yes I do think it’s sad that plent…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:39 PM
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Good! I am still confused at your comment.. specifically when you said as a woman you have to return the favor… give your man sex If I am with a woman why would I give another man sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 07:28 PM
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No i don’t get what you are saying? At first it sounds like you don’t agree with me and then it sounds like you do? So I’m a bit confused?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 06:25 PM
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I think men have very few standards but they are high for woman. While woman have low standards but a lot of them. Like as a man, I just want someone I can get along with, someone who will keep their attractiveness, give me as much affection and love as I want, and lots of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:04 PM
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I don’t believe I said all day but if I didn’t mean literally all day. Once they know how to use it well I meant once they are older. By then they will be going to school, probably have some extracurricular classes, and when they get home after hw is done on their free time they will watch movies or play games. I would probably call that all day but in reality they would be playing barely at all. But yes I agree, as long as they don’t refuse to go out at all then it’s okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:47 PM
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Definitely. I think we can both agree. Most parents, I’d say are not working 24/7 unless they are single moms who have to work and take care of the house and kids. Of course if someone is working 24/7, which I find it hard to believe assuming they have a partner, then they have all the right to ask for help. I’d say most people who are making a good amount of money, are not just lazy at work. While it might not be physical labor, sometimes they think a lot and they are completely brain dead by t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:36 PM
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You should be able to do a generalized statement. I can say for example hitting your kids probably not a good idea. Is there situations where you might have to spank or slap your kids? I don’t think so but perhaps. But as a general rule, don’t put your hand on your kid. I can make this generalized statement without having to worry about the exceptiona
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:24 PM
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I understand your point of view. What I am fighting is the fact that you are not working 24/7. Watching tv with your kid I would not consider work. Feeding the baby or cleaning his or her mess, definitely work. Painting with them while I’m watching my favorite show on the background, not work. Running errands, definitely harder with babies. Putting the baby down for a nap and listening to monitor, not work. I’m not saying that the woman should take all the home work. But I don’t think it’s fair …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:21 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:06 PM
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I definitely would be the type to read bed time stories. Since I do that with my nephews and nieces. Researching school definitely. Every kids is definitely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:05 PM
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I never said I would never help around. I love kids. What I am saying I don’t like when people call it a horrible job and that it is 24/7. Both parents should be on call 24/7, but being on call 24/7 doesn’t mean working 24/7. My parents and brothers and people I know have both been able to live a good balanced life that does not involved 24/7. We are equally as responsible, but we can negotiate on who will take what responsibility. If we are going to take 50% responsibility on everything, than t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:04 PM
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You are right you don’t choose your kids. But with most kids I want to believe is doable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:00 PM
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That is fine. If you want to call that lazy is fine, I call it being efficient. I love prepmealing now that I live by myself. It makes me excited to make healthy, delicious, fancy looking meals and put them in bento boxes. Oatmeal recopiles and noatmeals recipientes with handmade cherry syrup and a bunch of berries. This is all delicious and healthy. If she could take less time cooking and more time for her kids and her husband, why not. If you think that is lazy that is fine, I think she was an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:54 PM
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I never said all day and I haven’t raised kids. But this is how I was raised and all my siblings were too. That is how my brothers are raising their kids and they are awesome calm and very smart kids(with the exception of one but she has other issues). I don’t know what you mean by zombie kids? Kids that can enjoy themselves at home watching movies or playing cool games on their ipad, but also love going to the lake or beach and go to a bouncing home with their friends? I don’t know what a zombi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:47 PM
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Well social media is addictive but again i wouldn’t allow that. It can help asleep and that is why they say an hour before sleep don’t look at the phone. There is ways to get around that. As a kid.. there is not much to learn about the world other than trees and animals. Once they are older, sure dancing classes, coding classes, music classes, etc to learn what they like. Take them to museum and such. But a 1 year old can’t even understand what a blanket is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:43 PM
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I have spend time with kids. You can read my other responses in this thread. I have nieces and nephews and I have babysat for days to weeks. Maybe it’s just having good children, my nieces and nephews don’t make a mess. Sure little messes like her face would have all over but it’s quick to wash. The coloring books and games we had, once she was done with them it would take me 5 minutes to pick up. Watching movies with her was great. We would be cuddling in the couch, while I was watching a show …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:41 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:36 PM
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I mean that is fine if you don’t like that. I would love to be a stay home dad since I love kids! I can spend all day watching kids movies with them, playing and drawing with them, I enjoy them. The part that kills me is physical games like running after them and picking them up, my back hurts a lot after that. But I still wouldn’t consider it too much work.. because at least with my experience(not with kids that live in my home for months, but with my 2 year old niece that I have had to babysit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:36 PM
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I am a homeowner, perhaps it cause it’s not a very old house built in the 50s, but there is barely any maintenance. It’s a small house of almost 2000 sq feet, 4 bedrooms. I clean the whole house and get it done in 3 hours in one day. I have smart vacumms that vacuum every day so I only have to deep vacuum once a week. But I don’t have kids so it would be more with kids
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:32 PM
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I didn’t say every mom has the same. I said that it’s a choice. If I am working to pay our bills, I have no choice but to work to make enough money for us to pay our bills. My woman would have the choice of picking the home, if you want a pool or not, if you want a big house or not, etc. I have to work to pay for her decision and I’m fine with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:28 PM
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I don’t like this argument of your mind will change. That is how I was raised because that is how my dad lived his life. Even after his first divorce, he has been divorced for over 30 years and he is still financially taking care of his ex. My brothers do the same thing with their wives
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 02:53 PM
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Yes it all depends on your lifestyle. I agree with that. But the job description is the same with everyone. Things can be done faster. If you wish to do them slower, because you don’t want your kids to watch tv, that is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 02:52 PM
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I agree with the prenup. But I would do the prenup just for divorce and also to protect her in case my business fails and I go bankrupt so it won’t affect her either. But outside of that paper, the moment I get married, I will put my house under her name, will give her a car under her name, and give her as much as I can because she deserves that as a woman and as the woman that conquered me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 02:48 PM
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I agree that most people are not consistent about this. I wanted a non-promiscuous woman, and I got it. She doesn’t want to have sex till marriage and obviously that can be a little frustrating, but what was I expecting? If she held herself a virgin for other guys, why would she change on the first date. She still has her standards. I also think that many don’t want a promiscuous woman but someone who will be very naughty and “slutty” in bed with them. Which I personally think it’s understandabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 02:12 PM
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So what should be the mens standard then? I think it’s great that men don’t care about how much money a woman makes. What should be what we want in a woman? Would it be the same for woman wanting men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 02:06 PM
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I agree with the not being unrestricted. I was unrestricted and I came out fine but I know plenty who didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 02:05 PM
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So few things here. I will admit that I am biased since I am in the field of STEM. But according to the research I have done, technology at a good age has a lot of good benefits, from eye cordination, spatial awareness, developing higher order thinking, capacity for visual attention, problem solving, and it is also a good motivator. Given iPad time as a reward for good behavior. Now, the studies that I’ve read when it becomes bad and it makes kids anxious, depressed, and so on, is usually around…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 01:55 PM
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So you are saying, not putting words in your mouth just trying to understand your point, men should worry about money. Men, just like women, should be striving to find someone of the same income level or higher. Is this correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:35 AM
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I think in this situation it makes sense to negotiate. I will say I don’t think you need to spent that much time and effort. But that is all about whatever the parents want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:33 AM
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Depends on the relationship. There has been some girls where I just want to be a cute sub boy and do whatever they want. Be their toy and clean the home and cook and have them choose my outfits, etc. However, there is some girls that it is the exact opposite. So it just depends on the girl
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:22 AM
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I’m not a parent. So I could be wrong, but this is something I constantly asked my close family about. My aunts, my mom, my grandmas. They all talk about how cleaning the house is actually fast but they choose to make it slower. My mom says she could finish the whole house in 2 to 3 hours if she turned off the tv and videos. She used to(back when I was younger and lived with her) to meal prep every Sunday. To not have to cock anything except maybe dinner. So in terms of work, only about 4 hours …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:19 AM
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This should be the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:14 AM
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I’m sorry but I don’t understand the comment. Hypergamy as my understanding goes is the idea that you should marry above your level. If that is the case, how can you also advocate to only marry in your own tax bracket?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:13 AM
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I don’t know. I’ve had bad experiences here. With my ex, about 5 months in and had known each other for years, the moment I opened up to her about how I was raped as a child she started treating me differently and seeing me differently. Maybe it was something else I did? But so far the only thing I can think of is this. The day after, she started treating me differently and never changed back.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:10 PM
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I’m glad that is the case. Hopefully one day I can not miss them!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 06:19 PM
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I’m glad that is the case for you! I can definitely see how you wouldn’t miss anything from someone who was misogynistic and cheating. Me personally, assuming I had a lovely relationship with someone that just ended because of different values or something, I can’t help but miss them. But like I said, maybe women just have that ability to forget, or maybe it’s just certain humans that have that ability. I certainly don’t have the ability to just date someone and forget about the person before an…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 06:17 PM
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Thank you I am happy! Out of curiosity, since we agreed that no one will make us 100% happy. Would you date someone that is an upgrade overall, but has an area that is a downgrade? From the obvious sexual compatibility or stamina, to things like handling serious conversations or dangerous situations, to little things like maybe an ex was an incredible dancer and you loved going salsa dancing with him cause made you feel amazing spinning you around and such, but maybe this new person doesn’t have…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 06:09 PM
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She is an upgrade. She is smarter, funnier, older haha, better aligned with my goals, shows me a lot more affection and at least so far is loyal haha. She is an upgrade everywhere but sex. I think the pros are worth dealing with the cons, nevertheless.. when I’m in the mood.. I can’t help but miss my ex because in that area she was better. Is it bad that I’m dating an upgrade but she is not an upgraded on 100%?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:55 PM
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It all depends on what you want I guess. I would forever feel horrible if I had to get divorce, specially if there is kids involved. In terms of knowing what you want, I don’t understand how someone can’t know what they want from the beginning, but certainly your interest can change. It is true no relationship will fulfill you a 100%. I’m saying I’d rather not miss someone because they have that thing that my current partner is missing. Like my ex was a lot more sexual. My gf doesn’t want anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:43 PM
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That is assuming she is picking me based on being the best. But the reality of now days is that most people end up settling because they couldn’t get the best. That is just the reality. Now, maybe this is a difference in gender, but talking to my female friends, I’ve noticed how they talk so perfectly of their relationship but once they break up they talk so badly about their relationship. It makes me wonder if the relationship was even bad to begin with or now that it has ended you see it throu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:43 PM
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I agree with this as in it is one of the reasons and perhaps the main reason. However, I don’t see why this is wrong. I wouldn’t want to be with a partner that sees me not as good as one of her exes. And I hope that my gf or wife would not want to be with me if I don’t think she is the best I could get or I am thinking of another girls blowjob skills or another girls humor. Why would anyone want to be with someone who does not seem them as the best they have had? It would make me said knowing sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:34 PM
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I think first of all the red pill community has very different ideas from one another, but the main point of it is to find a good husband to facilitate your life and be happier. Now some of the stuff they mention are pretty dumb, some are pretty good and I think it is our job as an individual to pick the right ones. The idea of finding a husband to take care of you financially and not ever have to work and be able to live and “stress free lifestyle” is very intriguing. Now the way to go about it…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:05 AM
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So I don’t believe my opinion is unpopular but I will admit in person, all of my guy friends disagree with me, they claims they would never do anal. I personally would not have a single problem getting pegged. In fact, it is part of my bucket list! However, I will say I do see the idea of getting penetrated… not necessarily degrading but I do see the person getting penetrate as submissive. Which I have no problem with, cause I’m a switch, so I’d love to get pegged so I can feel submissive, small…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:38 AM
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Ok Cupid as well as other apps have shown their statistic on the percentage of men that get swiped right by women and the other way around. They showed that women tend to swop right for the same 20% of men. While men swipe right for little over 85% of women. So when you say that you have tons of friends that get hookups a few times a year.. the reality is that those men are not the majority or average. So think about it like this. A very few percentage of men have the guts to ask a girl out. Thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:28 AM
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Okay you are right, pleasant isn’t the right word. Let’s use your description, getting along. Perhaps this is just a personal difference, but I have met plenty of lazy and selfish people who are very fun to be around, who I get along amazingly well, but I wouldn’t date them because as much as I get along with them, I don’t want to be with someone who doesn’t want to do anything for the relationship. Sure they might make me extremely happy when I am with them, but having to work a lot of hours an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:44 PM
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Even better. I’d assume then, knowing how expensive California can be first hand, you would leave your partner if they were making close to no money and not helping around the home even though you enjoy their company. Or would you be okay staying with a partner that makes close to no money and does not help around the home other than being pleasant?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:30 PM
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Well I agree there needs to be physically, mental, and emotional attraction. I’m not denying that.. but I assume that if you lived in a state like California where you need to make I believe 120 k assuming you put a 10% down payment to get the average home, and he is enjoyable to be around but he makes 15k or less and spends all his day play video games and the moment you get home tried from work you also need to cook, clean, laundry, etc… I’d assume you would leave. If both are making 50/50, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:15 PM
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I agree with this statement. As a man, if I make 40 k and my significant other makes all the money and provides me with a good lifestyle, I would understand if she expects me to clean and cook and work at home and please her. The problem is I think, maybe it is just my experience, but when I tell women if you are not adding value to my life.. they go like don’t you love me, isn’t being in love enough. And If I say if you are not making enough money, you need to be cleaning, cooking, helping arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:59 PM
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The best group of people to give advice to men, specially about dating, is women and we should follow it. The best group of people to give advice to women, specially about dating, is men and they should follow it. Problem is, when men tell women what a man wants in a woman, they hate it and choose to ignore it. And same thing happens when a woman tells a man what they want in a man, they hate it and choose to ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:35 PM
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Drinking soda is childish? Like coke? I mean it’s okay if you think that, I personally only drink water, it just surprising to hear those
/r/RedPillWomen31/05/22 09:17 PM
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All the girls that I have been with, have been girls that like to be spoiled by their partner and are okay with me being the breadwinner, but will also slap me and yell at me when they are upset. So sounds like my mom with my dad. Hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:09 PM
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Is there a way to learn to kiss? I’ve always wondered this. I have only kissed one girl, and not even making out. I’m not dating someone but we have never kissed and she hasn’t kissed someone either past a quick kiss. I have always wondered whether it just comes naturally and you are either good at it or not or if there is ways to learn
/r/RedPillWomen30/05/22 03:34 AM
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The reality Is that your degree will be used whether you work in the field or not. Studies show that the education of the mother has a huge impact on the kids compared to the education of the father. The father could have dropped out of high school and got a decent job and decent wage or become a doctor and make crap ton, it will virtually not affect the child’s education more than financial stand point. However, when the mother is a college graduate, the kids tend to follow. If the mother didn’…
/r/RedPillWomen28/05/22 09:12 AM
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I didn’t say I don’t date. I have and I do date. In fact I am dating right now. I’m just saying I want to save my virginity for that person. Yes, could I make a mistake? I could. But I would like to try and not make one
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:45 PM
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I do think there is one and only. My dad claimed to have found her. I’ve met a lot of people who have been together for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 10:21 PM
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I will say two things about that. I don’t think the fairytale is men be whores and women stay pure. I don’t remember any princess movie were the guy was a whore hahaha. But I understand what you are saying, that most guys don’t want to wait, will mess around, have as much sex as they can, and the get the virgin. Though I agree with you in the sense that I find it unfair. I once again touch on the fact we want different things. If as an example, all the virgin women would say, I’m not marrying a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:54 PM
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I will admit I want a fairytale. But that is why I also put myself in that same standard. That’s why I continue to be a virgin. I want to give my virginity to hopefully the one and only. I don’t think that’s bad or bs. Perhaps corny. But I don’t think saving myself for a special woman is bad or dumb or bs
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:40 PM
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Yes they totally should. In my opinion. But I will also say, women and men tend to look for different things romantically. As an example, I am a virgin by choice(21 m) and girls that I’ve talked to(ex,only dates, just talking, ect) have mentioned that though they find it sweet, they wouldn’t say they prefer a virgin man. The explanation usually goes like “ I don’t want to teach the guy what to do. Women already have a hard time getting orgasms, now I need to teach him what to do. Go through the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 08:01 PM
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Perhaps is bigger in cities. But just by making a quick google search, according to the CIA factbook German 86.3%, Turkish 1.8%, Polish 1%, Syrian 1%, Romanian 1%, other/stateless/unspecified 8.9% (2020 est.) That is very little compared to the USA. Granted it was Quick search, maybe it’s a wrong place to cite from? https://www.indexmundi.com/factbook/compare/germany.united-states/demographics
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:31 PM
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I am not from the USA but I do live here. I agree that the USA has a very bad sexual outlook in the sense that it is shamed upon and that if you are high or drunk than you must have been raped. I think the biggest issue though with young love is pregnancy. You mentioned how in the USA we are focused on wealth. Very true, I personally could not live in a place were people are not constantly striving for more. However, a culture that allows people to move up in the economic hierarchy as easy as th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:17 PM
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Not surprised I got so many dislikes haha
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 05:48 PM
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I don’t think it’s a hunch. I think it is the sad reality. It would be easy and amazing to say that maturity just comes with age, but it doesn’t, it comes with the experiences you have lived, if you spend your last 10 years not doing anything but partying, you might not have experience of the world like someone who has been working, traveling, creating businesses, have had lots of friendships, etc. I mentioned before how I have a lot on commons with my older friends, an example of what you mean …
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 05:05 PM
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Haha that is smart. Also that will help you find a good man. In my humble opinion.
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 04:51 PM
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I love it too. Sadly it is not a throwaway account for me haha. But I agree, I love sharing ideas and hearing other people! Specially conversation like this. Just talking about it usually gets you people screaming at you “ped phi le”
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 04:49 PM
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But yes, definitely consider the fact that too old can leave you a widow early on. 10 years not a big deal. 15-20, you will most likely be a widow but of old age and only stay widow for 5 years maybe more. But older than 20, you are really opening up to the chance of being by yourself for a long time, specially if you decide to not have kids. Though you can always find someone else after
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 04:41 PM
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I mean I will say that you can find a non promiscuous teen. That is why my gf fell in love with me, or supposedly one of the reasons. I’m still a virgin, and before her, I’ve only really dated one person(went out on dates, but only dated one girl) cause I wanted nothing other than a serious relationship. I will admit though, the con of this is that I will probably disappoint in bed the first few times haha
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 04:39 PM
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I think this is the most important tip. It is the reality. Those relationships can work, but even if they do… depending on how big of an age gap, are you comfortable with possibly becoming a widow by 40s? It is definitely something to think about, and perhaps the most important thing
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 04:37 PM
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I personally wouldn’t date an older woman, just because as a man.. I’ve always been attracted to my age or younger for the most past, just like women are usually attracted to their age or older. But if I were to flip the table, I personally wouldn’t have issue with their age being the same as one of my parents. Other than the fact that my dad is pretty much an old man haha. I am personally friends with people who are 10,15 even 20 years older than me. Peoples response to that is like “eeeww.. yo…
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 04:32 PM
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I’ll admit. I don’t think it was legal back then and in my country. But I could be wrong. Though I do think is becoming more common since first world countries like Europeans countries have age of consent from 14 to 16.
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 04:29 PM
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I do think that knowing my family history and seeing how happy and amazing couple they are, might have skewed my view a little. I’m sure otherwise I would have grown hating any age gap bigger than 5 years. I don’t know. I personally just think it’s a matter of case to case bases. Some men are horrible, but they will be horrible when teens and after. Like my only real fear of let’s say my sister dating someone much older(sis is 15) would be him like trafficking her. But other than that, I have th…
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 04:28 PM
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That is totally fine to go to raves. I personally would want to go to one, but at the same time, I don’t think I would be able to go with one of those rave girls. The ones that are showing too much skin pretty much wearing lingerie. Nothing wrong with that, they do them. Just doesn’t align with what I want. I think it’s more that sometimes the things we find fun, are not the places you will find the men you claim to want. Once you find him then you can go with him, but it would be unlikely to fi…
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 04:22 PM
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I would disagree to a certain amount. Depends on your definition of grooming.
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 04:16 PM
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I live in America. I’m not from America. My home country has a much lower divorce rate than the USA. But we don’t do arranged marriages. I think it’s more of a mentality than anything. The USA way of looking at relationships seems pretty dry and just destined to fail most of the time.
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 04:16 PM
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I am a male! I am not planning to date a specific age. I don’t think I could marry someone older, a year or two is fine. The oldest person I went on a date with she was 24 and I was 18. She had a 5 year old. Didn’t work with her. I am now in a relationship. She is one year younger if that counts? I would not be opposed to dating someone younger if we matched, but I’m not necessarily looking for that
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 04:14 PM
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Her parents were around 45 to 50+. My mom technically lied to my dad telling him she was 18 and it wasn’t until a few months later that my dad was getting suspicious and got the truth out of her, thought according to them both, at that point she was 17. They continued dating, at after it came out, my mom invited my dad to have dinner with her parents. My grandparents said they didn’t like the fact she was dating an older man. But they knew forcing her to end the relationship would only make it w…
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 04:12 PM
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My parents are 16-17 years apart. My dad was 32 or something when he met my mom she was 16. They dated and years later married when she turned 19. They have been together ever since. This relationship can definitely work. The problem is usually they are less likely to work and more likely to have abuse or something. However, it doesn’t mean that because something is more likely you shouldn’t do it. Just be more carful.
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 03:58 PM
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I am from Mexico. Is it a dangerous place? Compared to the USA, yes. Can you have a totally normal life and never get killed, threatened, mugged, etc? Yes. I would probably try to stay away if you are going by yourself. It sounds like he has family over there. If you have family, he probably knows the place and the likeliness of something bad happening decreases by a lot, assuming he is not involved with drugs.
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 03:56 PM
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There is definitely man at that age that are into RPW. I’d consider myself one(21 m) but I will admit they are hard to find. I would have said I was probably hard to find since I am always working to provide a good life for my future family. I can say I don’t usually do what my friends and other people my age that I know do on a daily basis. I’m not religious, but I assume religious communities? I doubt you will find him in a club, though it could happen. I personally dislike going to a club whe…
/r/RedPillWomen24/05/22 03:52 PM
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21 m here. Virginity isn’t everything. I personally have kept myself a virgin and hope I will give my virginity to someone special. Do I want a virgin? Yes. Will it hurt me if I knew the girl I am into had a lot of past with a bunch of guys? Yes. Will I probably always have that feeling in the back of my mind of her sleeping with other people and possibly letting them do things she nevero let’s me do and stuff? Yes. But at the end of the day, if she shows love, passion, dedication, and a real de…
/r/RedPillWomen22/05/22 03:45 AM
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You are leaving out the next sentence. I don’t know how to quote it like you do so I will just do it old school. “I’m happy! I’m a big fan of meritocracy. As long as the most qualified individual is the one getting it than I am happy” I specially mentioned I am happy as long as it is the most qualified. But to answer your questions, we don’t know that every woman in college is not there because of meritocracy. If you point out a specific example of someone who is not there because of their merit…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:01 AM
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Well I did say “as long as”. I didn’t assume anything. I’m saying for those who deserve it, who worked for it, I’m happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 01:32 PM
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I’m happy! I’m a big fan of meritocracy. As long as the most qualified individual is the one getting it than I am happy. No matter if that is a woman or man. I do agree though that I believe sadly I think that makes women unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:04 AM
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Well personally to me is the fact that I will give them what I can’t have. I wish I could wake up not worry about work and go play golf for a few hours, then go to get brunch, with some Friends, then go home to watch a movie, the next day wake up to go to the gym and then meet up with some friends to go shopping, or go to some sort of event. I don’t know just the liberty to do whatever you want. I don’t have that, I have to work. And though thankfully I have a pretty good position for my age and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:50 PM
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I think you can both be supportive without agreeing with the outcome. We do it all the time, from basic decisions to big ones like what someone is going to study. Just because we don’t like it or don’t agree with it, doesn’t mean we can’t be supportive. My grandparents didn’t agree with my aunt marrying a woman, but they were always there and supportive because they love her. A friend of mine thought she was pregnant and I’m very much against abortion with a few exceptions(this did not fall into…
/r/RedPillWomen15/05/22 02:34 PM
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This is very interesting. It really shows to the difference in desires of a relationship. I could be wrong but I feel like men are more extremist. Men are either extremely dumb or extremely smart, usually dumb. Women are usually right in the middle. You can see this in studies that show the average IQ of men and women. The average IQ of men and women is pretty much identical(we are talking about a difference of 1 or 2 points going either way depending on the study) but there is a lot of debate o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 02:25 PM
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This. I am so annoyed of seeing men wanting a 50s wife when they can’t even be like the 50s men and 100% financially take care of their family. I personally would want a stay home wife, but that is why I push myself every single day too keep growing, invest, to be able to support my family by myself some day. As of right now, I could support my gf if she wanted to, I’m definitely not ready for a baby though. Hopefully in a year or two
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:56 PM
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Through text? This is new.
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 08:04 PM
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Very true. I somewhat get it. My gf doesn’t like to admit does she has admit in the past. She really likes that I have a well established job and has shown through my achievements that if she wanted to, she could drop college or anything she wants and I will take care of her. Sometimes people want someone with more experience who can lead. She definitely likes that I can lead the relationship. Sexually I admit I lack that experience. But I understand if a woman wants a man who will guide them ev…
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 03:05 AM
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Oh I think she somewhat realized it already haha. One of my best buddies went to get a haircut to a new place, and she happened to work there. I’m not sure if she ended up asking or he just happened to talk about me. He ended up telling her about how I had, at the time, bought my first home. And my property is right next to her university apparently. She was complaining to him about how she “could have had free roof and knowing me free food and free car if she had only stayed with me. And he was…
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 03:00 AM
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Well it says a lot about you to understand him. I believe we as human tend to have an opinion until it happens to us and then we change it to help ourselves even if you were against it before. So understanding his concern and fear without attacking him says a lot about you! To clarify, men should not attack a woman for their past either. Mutual respect
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 02:54 AM
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In my personal idea I agree with you. But I also agree that what men and women want in a partner are not usually equal. Many women would want a more experience partner to lead them, while most men would want an inexperienced partner. Though I agree with your statements on a personal note, it is also true it depends on the couple.
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 02:47 AM
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I see! Well I’m sure you will find the right partner for you. And if it makes you feel better, I don’t think you are a hypocrite. Men and women differ in what we are looking in a partner. What we look for in a partner is usually complimentary, not equal.
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 02:45 AM
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That’s amazing! Congrats! I’m very happy for you two then!
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 02:43 AM
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Very good point! Men and women want different things. “Complementary, not equivalent” better wording couldn’t exist.
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 02:43 AM
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I like your answer! The ontogeny thing I would change is the n-count number. More than like 2 without explanation is too much for me sadly haha. Thank you for your thoughts!
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 02:41 AM
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Was that person able to overlook them?
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 02:38 AM
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Really good points! My only concern is the belief that a 30 year old virgin is a red flag. I can totally understand the concern in the sense of “I need to really listen and pay attention to see if there is something wrong with him or if he just has very high standards and a lot of self control”, I understand. I agree that it could possibly be a red flag, but it could possibly be a green flag. Is it your believe that either way it is a red flag?
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 02:37 AM
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I wish you the best and at finding the right partner for you! Thank you for your time!
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 02:33 AM
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This is a great point. I can say when I was in middle school and early high school I would watch a lot of porn. Definitely have cut down by a lot and it can definitely change the way you look at relationship and damage future relationships
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 02:32 AM
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We are out there. I’ve only met another men like me and we are definitely hard to find, and hard to get us since once our heart is stuck to someone, we tend to hold very hard to it, more than normal(in my case about 7 years). I am by no means perfect, after my ex cheated I was devastated and for about 3 years I was not in a good place and thankfully I was able to continue my believe and stayed a virgin, but I did end up talking to a lot of girls and did end up receiving nude pics and stuff, noth…
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 02:31 AM
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Good point! Even though I can read a lot about it and I’ve talked to many women who have told me what they like in their partners and so on, at the end of the day I haven’t experienced it. I’m probably not as clueless as the guy who knew nothing before the first time, but definitely wouldn’t say I know what I am doing haha.
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 01:47 AM
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Would you say you would rather be with someone who realized how bad hookup culture is from the beginning and stayed a virgin? Or would you rather be with someone who slept around and it is now done with it?
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 01:46 AM
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I definitely do agree that what men and women want is not equal. However, I do think there is some similarities. I would assume both genders want an attractive person. I don’t believe women are willing to date a huge fat men who is not that attractive if they are a super model unless he is like extremely wealthy and extremely good personality. In other words, we differ in some and are the same in others. But yes it is a very fine line and and have to be carful.
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 01:18 AM
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Thank you for the response! This is very interesting! I always saw it as if I want something I need to give the same thing back. Like if I want people to be nice, you need to also be nice. So I thought If I want a virgin then I probably should put the work to stay that way. I appreciate your response and leaves me with a lot of thoughts! Very interesting points. I might make a whole post about this to get more perspectives! Very interesting thank you!
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 12:56 AM
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Sorry to interfere y’all’s conversation. I think both of you had amazing points. I would like to ask both how do you feel about the a man’s N-count?
/r/RedPillWomen09/05/22 12:15 AM
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Most people our age won’t be looking to get married. I know because most girls I’ve liked claimed I’m too much cause I make it clear from the beginning I’m doing this for marriage, not to just have fun. How do you find us guys who want to get married young(I’m 21 but I have been wanting to get married since I was like 7, and actively seeking it since 15)? I don’t know. I think they are some clear signs, but very few have them. What is the age most guy want to get married? Early to mid 30s I’d sa…
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/22 06:06 AM
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