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DiscussionPerseus_the_Bold/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 03:56 AM
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I wash all 3 of my cutting boards TWICE a day, before using them, and then again after using them. Except for my butcher's block which I only use on weekends when I make grilled meat or like to chop carnitas on it. That is why I am shocked that any dude wouldn't know how to wash a simple board. Makes me wonder if this guy even knows how to wash his own ass. I have been cooking since I was 7 by my grandma's side.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:24 AM
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Men and women aren’t that different Until you have to work with each other. "Women aren’t more emotional than men," No, women emote differently than men. "and women are more logical than men" Being more neurotic about mundane things that men see no importance in, thus do not seem to "logically plan ahead in," does not make women more logical. It just makes them more concerned over shit that men simply do not care about. How can the gender that literally built the modern world be less logical? Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:13 AM
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For clout, money, status, some morbid fear of "being alone," and because they are easily pressured by society to do so. You think women date men for men? lol 🤣 That's a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:03 AM
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I'll let you in on a little guy secret: We know you girls don't like our BS, it is the fact that you put up with it without protest that is actually attractive. We can see the gears in your head grinding and it's the complacent smile you give back instead of protest that makes a guy actually attracted to you because we interpret that as loyalty. Loyalty from a women is extremely valuable to a man. If you ever want a man to truly leave you alone then do the opposite, challenge him, be combative, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 08:00 AM
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"He doesn't know how to wash our wooden cutting board" Mon Dieu! 😑
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:51 AM
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Treating a grown ass man like an emotionally unstable toddler that needs constant reassurance is not a good idea. If the man in questions is actually a man, and not some emotionally stunted dolt, he will resent you for it. If he is in fact a stunted dolt you will resent him for it. Either way, you will not win.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:47 AM
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We are not that complicated, we just want someone easy on the eyes and willing to fuck. Everything else is extra and not expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:43 AM
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The idea of past performance being a predictor of future behavior does not apply in the concept of a lifetime. It may be useful to predict what someone will do in the next year bur it is a piss poor predictor of what he will be like in 10-20 years. For example. How many of you can honestly tell me that you are the same right now as when you were 15 in high school? And those of you who are older, how many of you are exactly the same as when you were in your 20's? Not so easy to predict anymore is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:33 AM
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What do you mean 50/50 ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 07:28 AM
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House cats live longer than alley cats. Stray house-broken dogs also tend to look for new homes as well rather than roll with the wolves or the coyotes. As for exiting life, I really wish you ignorant people would stop with the shaming language as if this was some kind of weakness. This is how society taunts and goads these men into becoming homicidal. Men who want to exit life are goaded into anger as if pushing them into a deep rage will fix anything. And we are all seeing the consequences of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 03:02 AM
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The average man is a pawn on the board, just another cog in the machine. What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 03:00 AM
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The insta-look is like convenience store candy, like skittles or a bear claw. Very tasty in the moment, but it can get to being too much too quick if you eat more than a snack's worth of it. Instragram thots are a good treat to the eyes, and to the imagination. But then getting fed up with them (as with candy) comes pretty fast and then the gag reflex kicks in. Another thing most people tend to ignore is the basic instinct to measure up. If a man lands a woman who is over his league, either in c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:56 AM
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I don't doubt there are plenty of men who have other motivations but the core of these will always be the promise of sex or the threat of death and pain. I call it the Carrot and Stick of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:48 AM
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The manosphere offers doses of reality (Red Pills) which those other hucksters try to hide or counterfeit. As a rule, if a bozo is asking for money, or "monetizing" the brand, then he is a phony ass fake. Men do not go to the manosphere for fitness, but they do share fitness advice such as trends, places, procedures, and generally where the best gyms, advices, or reading materials are. We go to the manosphere just to commune with other men who see the same BS in the world that we see and build t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 09:10 AM
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Simple: My father is from another time, and from another culture. Same as my mom. Women my age are not half the woman that she is. Bear in mind my mom is a total hippie slacker compared to my grandmother. Men today are just not men when compared to my dad. My dad has landed in the hospital several times from severe injuries and has never complained. He taught me the concept of self-pride, pragmatic stoicism, and a worth ethic comparable to that of a machine. I had to adapt to a Gynocentric Cultu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 08:47 AM
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I don't know why I hate this word so much when it is used in this context: "Healed." As if emotions cause physical damage that requires physical repair and downtime in order for the wound to heal. When I get any sort of emotional blow I need time to clear my head. Because emotional turmoil is a disruption of the thinking process. The mind needs to come to terms, absorb, learn, and incorporate the emotional experience. And until it can do so it is a very distracting element which is why people ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 08:38 AM
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Just because millions can do it does not make them the rule. In fact, The majority of all men who have ever lived either died virgins or never reproduced. And since contraception is a relatively recent invention in our specie's history I dare to say the former is most likely true. So being 'womanless' is actually the rule for men. Even as we speak the majority of men are NOT hooking up with any women. It is a smaller minority of men who are scoring while the rest of us are burdened with keeping …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 08:22 AM
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No. If society collapses (for the umpteenth time) it will be like the classic example of Rome. The barbarians will come in, pick the carcass of civilization, create smaller organizations like feudalism, kingdoms, city states, and an aristocracy or other form of hierarchical governance where the most ruthless men come on top until it eventually evens out into a more organized and cohesive culture/state. Society and civilization gets rebuilt, nobody learns the damned lesson from the last time. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 08:16 AM
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By totally missing the point you are reinforcing the thesis of OPs message. Sex isn't what motivates people to earn money? lol It is the ONLY reason young men do literally anything, that and the fear of death. And since modern society provides for all the basic instincts of a man, shelter and amusement and yes even sex (through porn) there is really no reason why young men should stress beyond the meet of these basic things. The threat of being broke and destitute falls on deaf ears on a generat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 08:06 AM
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Speak for yourself. In reality we do not need as much socialization as women do. We are just fine being alone, and for many men, solitude is therapeutic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 07:56 AM
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Is it possible to find men who do not put a huge emphasis on looks? Yes. Is it possible to find men that prioritize personality and compatibility over looks? Very highly unlikely, but still possible. And chances are, you will not like these men. From my observations, the insta-model look is the standard nowadays Get off your phone and look at real world. Looks open doors, yes. But that doesn't mean a man will hold it open. What I mean is that attractive women are very good at attracting men, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 07:48 AM
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Yes, I like wine my churlish chum.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 09:07 AM
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But... I'm not injured. Thanks for the thought, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 08:58 AM
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Hmmm, well nevermind. It's not important.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 08:52 AM
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That's what I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 07:13 AM
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Give me some credit, I'm not that socially incapacitated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:59 AM
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One offhanded sentence about women's groups in general doth not a rant make. I don't know what RPW is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:57 AM
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Don't change the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 05:52 AM
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When a man is told he has to go to the doctor: We know what we look like to Medical Science.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 04:05 AM
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This idea that one can hate something because it is itself has never made any sense to me. That is like pointing at a random star in the sky and somehow hating it because it's that start. I do not believe it's possible to hate women just for being women. Hate is an aversion to something, and hating women means that there has to be something about them causing that hate. What is it about women that warrants this hate and aversion towards them, and how is this exclusive only to women? These are th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 03:59 AM
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It actually leads to over-diagnosis (one example30115-7/fulltext)) and over-medication (one study) compared to men who are at the opposite end of that spectrum and are notorious for avoiding medical care and would rather put up with the pain than see a doctor; which is one of the reasons men die younger and at higher rates from curable diseases than women across the board. This sexist and antiquated feminist notion that women's health problems are not taken as seriously as men's is laughably fal…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 03:32 AM
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I'm glad you brought this up. I saw that same argument in some medical journals and it irked the hell out of me when I was in college. Especially when the reason we know more about male anatomy and medicine is because more men have been experimented on and carved up for medical experimentation than women. Ask anyone who has been to medical school or taken an anatomy course in college and had to go to the room where dead bodies are dissected/examined posthumously, ask them if they happened to not…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 02:56 AM
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Honestly, I don't think this is a sincere question, if OP is over the age of 12. Then you go on to say Maybe OP isn't actually "confused" and wants to start the classic PPD circlejerk of disingenuous assholes intentionally misinterpreting an idea and relentlessly attacking the strawman they created. You start by stating you doubt my sincerity, and then you project a nefarious intent into my question to further discredit me, then you finish it by claiming I'm the one making the straw man here. Cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 02:48 AM
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I've been called a misogynist for much more petty things than simply holding a door. That is why the word is meaningless to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 02:39 AM
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So then what is the difference between a man who hates gold diggers and a man who loves them (as trophy wives) and assuming both think women are only attracted to the money? These are two contradictory attitudes about the same woman. How can one word mean two contradictory things? It's like saying abstinence is both a sex position and chastity at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 02:38 AM
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A nice and concisely intelligent reply. 🙂 But you seem to have described what misogyny does, what it looks like when it's acted on. The aversion and disdain for women is not the only cause for all those things you've described. Nor does the disdain for women always manifest as prejudiced attitudes due to men's ability to compartmentalize our thoughts and feelings and to have cognitive dissonance where we can in fact feel one way and act in it's total opposite (sometimes). I am curious about some…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 02:33 AM
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Hmmm that is what I initially thought. But still, I am interested in what women have to say. Different women have their own meaning and idea of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 02:26 AM
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How does holding (or not holding) the door for women fit into that definition? 🤔 This is my point. A lot of the time when women throw around that word it's only because they also threw away the dictionary. Men, under these contexts, clearly and very evidently do not hate women, and yet we are constantly accused of it. Thus we can only conclude women are using some other definition of that word that we are not familiar with. And until we figure out what that is, we can only intelligently assume t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:52 PM
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Yep. And technically I can also not sleep or eat. There is technology, surgery, medication, and alternate ways to provide these needs without the actual acts. But my quality of life will be hell. It's always about choosing the lesser evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:49 PM
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Nevermind.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:48 PM
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I wish I was not attracted to women against my will. I wish men could just turn it off. It's like wishing I never hungered or never needed to sleep. It's just not going to happen and just have to deal with the BS as best as I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:36 PM
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I'm obviously generalizing for dramatic effect; but you're oversimplifying things to draw the wrong conclusions and present them as if they were mine and then ridicule something that I didn't say. Anyway... My point is: Men would rather take their chances with physical harm, where we have a literal fighting chance to defend ourselves than to put up with an impersonal woman-centric system that strips men of their dignity and their freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:28 PM
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So are chilly peppers. When they are young and hot. The thing about chilly peppers is that they have an expiration date, so up until that point they are ripe, good looking, spicy, and fun. They are not like, say, a rusty old hammer or a pickup truck which don't depreciate in their utility or value over time unless they literally break. In this respect men are more like hammers (hard, dumb, useful, resilient, long lasting) while you are comparable to a hot young chilly pepper. So, in the mean tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:18 PM
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And what about the women who don't have beauty and youth? Same as a man: They better have a skill or an asset they can exchange for a wage or for barter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:05 PM
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Which masculine tole are you talking about? Because we can pump and dump or we can commit. "Strong and Independent" women seem to be setting themselves up for the former. If a woman does not need me in any way and is only going to be an abrasive competitor when we are not having sex then why the hell would I want to stick around after sex? I would have my own life to get back to and I would feel no guilt walking away because she is the same. She has her own life to get back to as well thus we pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:00 PM
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You are basically asking me what would I do if I were in my grandfather's shoes. And my answer is that I would do the same thing he did. Follow through with my commitments! His whole life was his family and it was oppressive as hell. It's the reason he died relatively young (Heart failure induced by stress). And it is one of the many many MANY reasons I am MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 04:55 PM
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Men would literally choose to go to war and risk actual physical harm, maiming, and death than to go through the life-destroying event of financial slavery and the total loss of respect and dignity. There is more respect in taking a bullet to the belly and literally spilling our guts out than to have some woman make the decision that she will be owed our wages for the rest of our damned lives and we have zero say on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 04:19 PM
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Hmmm true. You'd think a guy would be more willing to wrap it up cause men have zero choice once a pregnancy happens and he is fucked on the spot (ironically). But men are also the risk takers, thus many stupid decisions ensue. Every wonder who discovered or invented ice swimming? No? Well we know for sure it was a man. One of my favorite authors said it best: "It was a brave man who first ate an oyster." How the hell do we know it was a man? Because who else would be stupid or risky enough to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 04:16 PM
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I have no idea. And it literally doesn't matter to me. I think more women at least try to get a guy to put on a condom than men take the initiative for it because women are more health conscious. As to what percentage? Again, no idea, not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:13 PM
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You are asking the cats why the dogs bark. Try asking the dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:10 PM
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"Being valued" would place a man's worth at the arbitrary whim of the one doing the evaluation. 🤨 Those who value men do so based on a criteria in which they deem to be important either to themselves or so some endeavor in which they need the teamwork of a man. That is why those who value other men are usually Companies and Women. Companies because they need men's intangible and tangible skills in our physicality or abilities. And women because they just need a partner for whatever her own perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 11:04 PM
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Acting jealous doesn't mean actual jealousy, as if a guy envies his own girlfriend. The misnamed act is actually rivalry. When men feel they don't have a secure hold - or fully trust - their girlfriend they see every other man out there as a rival; as wolves circling over his girlfriend ready to snatch her away a a moment's distraction. Men are thus "jealous" for two main reasons: Their girlfriend doesn't conduct herself as very trustworthy manner among other men; nor does she show an independen…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 07:43 PM
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Insecurity in men stems from inadequacies in all aspects of life not just in relationships with women. If a man is insecure with women then that is a very specific type of insecurity which may not transfer over to every other aspect of his life for example his job, his friends, his talents, skills, or abilities. Therefore you would need to specify what kind of insecurity are you talking about. A man can be confident in picking up women but feel totally intimidated by dark alleys or daunted by so…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 06:29 PM
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lol not this man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:56 PM
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If by "get" men you mean understands men then: She thinks men can be "told" how to be men by society and that our masculinity isn't an inherent act of our own will. Therefore she thinks everything she sees wrong in men can be "fixed" by telling men to be something else. Through education, propaganda, media, etc. She thinks that what men feel is what men think. She thinks that sex is anything other than a bodily function for men; and not something we literally cannot control, only suppress or dev…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:53 PM
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Men would? Are you sure about this? 🤨 Men are not a monolith either. You will realize this when you enter the real world. Reality is not High School.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:32 PM
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Agreeable, good natured, non-combative, unobtrusive, unmasculine, pleasing, graceful, and willing to trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:30 PM
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Correction: Some men are this emotionally weak that they need this crutch for their ego so that they may limp along through life never far from falling apart. The rest of us are perfectly fine and do not need women for anything more complicated than handing back our change at the register or writing up a ticket because I decided I was too cool to obey some stupid No Parking sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 04:13 PM
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For example: If she tries to shit test you, you just walk away. You do not tolerate that BS. If she is bothering or annoying you in any kind of way you do not let it fester, you let her know that she's being annoying after it's clear that she hasn't figured it out on her own. If she disregards you after you've told her to stop her BS you cut her off and you stay cut off until she makes amends, you do not go crawling back like a simp after some verbal apology. Words are cheap, she needs to mean i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:36 PM
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Setting and then enforcing boundaries with her for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:44 PM
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Understanding how the world works does in fact alter your experience of it. It's the difference between the Dark Ages and the Space Age. Where once we ascribed fault to spirits or the will of the gods we now understand to be germs and psychology. Understanding this we not only behave differently when we are afflicted by natural phenomena but we behave more accordingly. In the context of relationships, for example, if all I want is sex I will follow the path of least resistance towards that, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 10:55 PM
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lol I am MGTOW precisely because I see the world for what it truly is. Once you know how the hotdog is made... and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:41 PM
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This is because niceness is often misconstrued to mean pushover both by those who think they are nice and by those who find niceness displeasing. Women are more attracted to assertive men who have the strength of character to use force when they deem it necessary; all the while being nice - as in polite, courteous, and pleasing - the rest of the time. The entire issue with men and niceness is that the majority do not have a clue of what nice actually means, or why women value it when it's genuin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:06 PM
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Who the hell is Andrew Tates? Is that the latest mass shooter or something? Anyway, your "no it's women" rebuttal makes no sense. You can take this shit somewhere else I’m not gonna hear that crap today. Alright, thanks for being up front, I will not bother reading the rest of your message. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 09:04 PM
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No, havign two X chromosomes means women have a redundancy (a backup) in case one chromosome is damaged the other can compensate. In Men this creates the phenomena of high variability which is why men populate the extremes in both body type, behavior, intelligence and performance. Men are simultaneously the best and the worst. Because we have no redundancy our genes are subject to more mutations which in the short term yes it sucks to get sick but in the long term we are our specie's genetic san…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 07:51 PM
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You do know that higher levels of testosterone in women boosts their bone density and their cognitive abilities right? You are making it seem as if Testosterone in and of itself is a foreign toxic element to the human body as if it were asbestos or radium.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 07:46 PM
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Why do you women always say "It's harder for men to...X" - presupposing that we even need to be X. Who told you that men need to create and maintain friend groups the way women do? Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps, um... we don't? Men get along just fine with the most superficial of connections to other people. We do not need "deep and meaningful" relationships with other men. We get along just fine being able to recognize a friend's face while giving no fucks about his personal or priva…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 05:03 PM
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You are talking about the loss of Y Chromosomes in blood cells. Here is the actual research, I suggest you read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:50 PM
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Testosterone is toxic to the body? That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Guess what else is toxic to the body. Water! Too much water in your body and it becomes toxic. Whoever told you Testosterone is toxic is an idiot and you should be smarter than to believe in such dumb crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:43 PM
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I beg to differ. Dying for no reason is the bigger fear than dying alone. Men are perfectly willing to die alone if they believe that doing so is worth a greater cause. That is how we have a long history of men tortured and killed and literally dying alone in dungeons, prisons, or military camps because they believe their horrible lonely death is worth it. Therefore, a man's greatest fear is having a meaningless and worthless life where he lacks any reason to get up at all every morning. A man i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:41 PM
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Your argument is immensely stupid because it is the equivalent of spitting in someone's eye and then calling him a hydrophobe because he doesn't like it. Your rationale can be used to claim that you can always tell who is gay (or insert any other word here) by how upset they get over the use the word, so when one meat-headed dudebro taunts another by calling him gay then he must be gay because the use of that word annoys him. This is the degree of stupidity we are at right now. This is why we ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:49 PM
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First Rule of Fight Club is that you do not talk about Fight Club. When we say mainstream we mean it's not an underground movement anymore because the mass media has picked it up and the normies are aware of it even if they have a distorted perception of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:39 PM
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I never said Allegory of the Cave = Matrix = Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:37 PM
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You have no clue what that word even means. Women who have ever met real misogynists in real life tend not to use that word so lightly. Women have overused that damned word so much it is basically a meaningless and only slightly annoying buzzword now like the word rape. Way to go! You've contributed to normalizing something that was considered a big deal once upon a time. That's what happens when you exaggerate shit for emotional effect over and over and over and never take the hint that you may…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:11 PM
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"The trash takes itself out" Then you proceed to mention that you just took yourself out of the dating pool. This is why the vast majority of modern females are unbearable to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:04 PM
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Women are so miserable and single these days they can't stop screeching it to our faces in literally every media platform. They have become a general nuisance in all media because of this. The evidence is in all the mass media lately which all has the common screechy trope of bashing men and "leveling up" for millenial women in their 30's who are in hard denial that their best days are now behind them. And the younger women coming up (GenZ) are even more fucked up, depreciated, ignorant, entitle…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:59 PM
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The red pill already went mainstream and that is what killed it. Once anything goes mainstream everybody and their damned dog will peck at it and insert their opinion on it until the thing is morphed into some mass consumed and watered down and distorted thing that is nothing like the original. It's what Disney did to pretty much EVERYTHING it touches. Look what "mainstream" did to Star Wars, Star Trek, Dr Who, Comic Book Heroes, The Lord of the Rings, etc etc.. What normies nowadays take to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:55 PM
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A pick-me is not a "yes man." A Pick-me is a female simp. Simps and Pick-mes are two separate things because each sex behaves differently when they are kissing the other's ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:01 PM
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Well lot!s of guys here certainly don't have the innate social skills to understand when and what kind of approaching is appropriate, which is why they struggle to get dates in the first place Which begs the next question: Would it be wise for such inept men to ever get a chance to breed? This is Natural Selection at work here. There is such a thing as too dumb to breed. Women have the right to choose what kinds of genes they wish to pass on with their offspring. If a woman is not interested in …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 09:05 PM
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That is like asking if it's ok to shoot a gun at a gun range then why isn't it ok to shoot it for target practice in your back yard, a parking lot, or at a park? 🤨 This is like the type of social rules and skills that are so innate and obvious that we don't even have words to explain them to people because we expect them to be intelligent enough to figure it out on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:51 PM
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Serious question: What makes you think that cold approaching women is a good idea? What is the end goal here? A hookup or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:42 PM
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In grown men, the act of crying is a signal of emotional instability. It is perceived as him not being in control, which is a liability in all interpersonal relationships from teams to marriages. Who would ever feel comfortable putting anything of theirs at stake in the trust that an emotionally fragile person who unashamedly signals their emotional weakness to the world? Men do in fact feel everything women feel, and I would argue that we feel it much more intensely than they do. Which means we…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:48 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:38 PM
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It doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:37 PM
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I hate twitter even though I have never actually been to that site. I have hated that thing since I first heard about he platform back in 2006 when it first came out. I believe today as I believed then, what kind of an IQ would one need to posses in order to express anything of value in one mere sentence? It's the internet equivalent of grunting, which is why a certain knuckle walking president who shall remain orange and nameless was on that platform like stink on a monkey. Any time I hear the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:08 PM
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That's not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:57 PM
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"You don't die when you get divorced" 🤣 That's a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:56 PM
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I do not have to imagine it. That has been a real threat to me as a man. You think that as a boy I never experienced the occasional pervert? And as a grown man you think I haven't been mugged, assaulted, or followed at night? Except I have been followed by a gangsters looking to kill potential rivals and not by a rapists. We all have our problems. Normal women who get raped dont usually even report it. I would ask: Then how can you possibly know about it? But that is not an argument I want to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:41 PM
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Because it is the only scenario where a man cannot defend himself in any way. Even attempting to do so makes it worse! You're worried about men physically attacking you? Carry a weapon! Learn to punch back! How the hell does a man defend himself from a non-tangible attack? See how you scoff, smirk, and sneer at the very through that this can be a life destroying event for any man? That right there is the fucking problem! Your ilk would be the first to talk smack and falsely accuse a man if felt …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 07:21 PM
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Let me flip the tables there for you, and using your own words: Lol women are so scared about this thing that virtually never happens¹ haha. We get it, you wanna be a victim. Only 0.037% of women, less than a tenth of a percent, ever actually get sexually assaulted or raped: Crime Index Offenses Reported to the FBI, Page 23. (37.1 victims per 100,000 inhabitants). Who is the one crying victim now?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 06:54 PM
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That is the same BS argument that feminists use to stop the criminalization of false accusations. The law is not so ambiguous however. A false accusation is legally defined as an accusation which did not occur after the course of an investigation determines that the crime did not factually occur. In simple words: when an investigation uncovers that an accusation could not have taken place given the factual circumstances. For example, Justin Bieber's sexual abuse accusation in where he presented …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 06:47 PM
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I stand by what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 02:28 PM
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"As with all other Crime Index offenses, complaints of forcible rape made to law enforcement agencies are sometimes found to be false or baseless. In such cases, law enforcement agencies “unfound” the offenses and exclude them from crime counts. The “unfounded” rate, or percentage of complaints determined through investigation to be false, is higher for forcible rape than for any other Index crime. Eight percent of forcible rape complaints in 1996 were “unfounded,” while the average for all Inde…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 09:48 PM
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The solution to the issue is obvious: Stop crying wolf. But women are not about to do that because they have too much power in holding the possibility of a false accusation over any man. If women were serious about being taken seriously they would legislate a severe penalty on false accusers and criminalize false claims of rape or other sexual harassment claims with malicious intent. The fact that women face zero consequences for destroying a man's life and feminists would rather legislate again…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 09:24 PM
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Most men don't have that kind of target on their back unless they are successful and women get it into their head that they are entitled to his wealth, attention, status, or some other insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:07 PM
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No, I am pretty sure a woman's ability to point at me, or at any man, and falsely cry rape and get every man in the room to literally murder me with no consequences to herself is a bigger concern of mine than to see her giggle and laugh at my goofy self. Imagine if I could just point at you and cry wolf and not just get the crowd to physically assault you but also the police and the courts to destroy your life and your sanity and if you survive all of that it is only to drive you towards suicide…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:32 PM
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I think you are the one who is bullshitting me and I'm just humoring you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:26 PM
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Correction: Men are scared that women will summon a lynch mob against them. One false accusation and it's over. We couldn't care less about your laughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:20 PM
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Did you grow up in a bubble? When in all of human history has jogging at dusk ever been safe anywhere? I went to high school where there were 2 police officers on duty at all times and they had a holding cell in the basement next to Machine shop and had to go through metal detectors to enter the building. There was one boy who was shot and killed during my freshman year, that never made national news though cause that shit happened so often it was the norm! Plus nobody had cell phones and there …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:18 PM
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Are you just fishing for an argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:03 PM
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Yes, unfortunately. But not for long. Men that simp tend to either quit or I end up firing them because of performance issues like showing up late very often, calling off all the time, not finishing tasks, wasting time on their damned phone, talking instead of working, failure to follow direction, milking the clock & wasting/stealing payroll, etc. If a guy can simp and still do the work (as some do) I can look the other way, but if they are too distracted by the new girl, or with anything, and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:57 PM
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I don't disagree with anything that you said concerning reality, I only disagree with this one conclusion you have made that there is someone for everyone. What say you abut the 20 Million+ Chinese men who literally have no one for them due to the surplus male population? Or all of those men and women who went to their graves never having found anyone? What makes you conclude there is someone out there for everyone? This belief that there is someone for everyone is one of the most insidious lies…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:46 PM
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That is why I mentioned Leadership skills. You cannot lead if you are inept at socializing. And just because there are indeed a lot of inept bosses out there it doesn't mean these people are actual leaders, they are just little tyrants filling role that is currently suffering from a scarcity of qualified people who can do the job. The beauty game is just as ruthless, a cute sexy woman can drop dead and tomorrow a younger and even cuter one will take her place. Skills, Competence and Ability are …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:40 PM
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lol sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:30 PM
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I admit I find it baffling that women find me attractive in any type of way. I do not understand why I am attractive to some women, it just doesn't make any sense to me in any type of way. For most of my life I actually got angry whenever women flirted with me or showed me any attention, it just infuriated me as if they were mocking me. Now I am too old to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:48 PM
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This isn't how I choose to see it as if reality were some buffet where I get to pick and choose what I want to believe and what I want to reject, that is what a Blue Pilled mindset is. Being Red Pilled means you see reality in all of it's simultaneous beauty and horror. I choose to see it the way it actually is. Defeatism don't apply to my thought process Neither does it apply to mine. Defeatism is an attitude towards life and reality. Those who adopt a defeated attitude only do so because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:42 PM
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When did I say we don't care about this very specific topic? We can change the topic if you wish. Just in case you think it's all women women women. I would be glad to discuss what MGTOW think about Taxes and Fiscal Responsibility (I'm not joking, this is actually a thing among MGTOW)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:29 PM
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There’s somebody for everybody. There is a subtle cruelty in telling people this noxious lie. There is no greater torture than to dangle hope in front of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:16 PM
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My advice? Become desirable in everything else. And then fall back on your worth to negotiate a better life for yourself. Obtain skills and upgrade your utility to the real world in order that your skills and abilities become coveted by employers as well as other people. By this I mean both soft skills and leadership skills, as in, you ability to communicate, to socialize and to be pleasant company as well as to inspire action in others. As an employer myself, I hire many women who are considere…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 10:09 PM
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Surrogacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 06:42 PM
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Because they are separate mindsets? MGTOW and Red Pillers do not see eye to eye on the issue of women. One believes that freedom from women is the best goal while the other one is borderline PUA and believes the meaning of life is with women. Both are Red Pilled in that we both know the facts and we are wiser to a greater truth but what we choose to do with that knowledge is what sets us apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 05:47 PM
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Now you're just making stuff up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 09:57 PM
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And who says we don't? MGTOW = Red Pilled. This is common knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 09:56 PM
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lol you are making the "She was asking for it" argument. "It's cause your knowledge of women's nature and self-sctualization philosophies were just so provocative and enticing to the incels that you were just asking them to invade your space." 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 09:54 PM
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You will do better to believe documented history, for example, the fact that the subreddit was created by a Legislator with the original purpose of it being an anti-Feminst platform, as I said. The original purpose of the Red Pill metaphor was to wake men up to the lies of Feminism. From there it mutates into a broader wake up call to all the other things we are getting screwed on. The Original Red Pill is a wake up call on Feminism in particular and on our perception of the world more broadly. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 09:43 PM
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Again, incels have been infecting and festering everywhere. Shutting down their subreddit caused them to scatter like cockroaches and infest other subreddits, including this one. Our original MGTOW and then MGTOW2 and MGTOW-TV subreddits became infested with these slimy creeps despite the best efforts of the mods. The subreddit got hijacked by incels who then started to ban actual MGTOW such as myself who voiced the hypocrisy of the incessant discussion about women when the subreddit was suppose…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 09:17 PM
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Sexual Strategy is PUA. Pickup Artists hijacked/stole the moniker and the information (the tools) the way crack heads steal equipment off from fire engines and then peddle it at the local flee market. It's like you all have amnesia all of a sudden. Or just can't see the fact that The Red Pill, the metaphor from the movie, has absolutely nothing at all to do with this slimy dating culture that's been around since the 80's. PUAs pre-date Red Pillers. Then when the Red Pill became a popular thing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 08:55 PM
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MGTOW are a subset of Red Pillers. In fact we are the original Red Pillers. We are the ones that started the gimmick. There is no mix up here, you just joined in late into this conversation that we have been having other the past 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 08:36 PM
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MGTOW is not red pill 🤣 right.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 08:31 PM
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Yes it's a toolbox, but the issue here is that people are using every tool in the box for the same job: getting the girl. And nothing more. It's like being in a garage with every tool at your disposal and all they do is use a hammer, then a welder, screwdriver, pliers, mallet, wrench, chalk, magnet, and then a hydraulic jack all just to cut grass, and only cut grass, because they are clueless about doing anything else. Imagine trying to cut crass with a measuring tape. This is why TRP doesn't wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:54 PM
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In short, it is purely information. What each person decides to do with this information is up to them. Yes, exactly! The part about each man doing what they will with that information is what the MGTOW branch of the Red Pill fountain is all about. You are responsible for your overall happiness, and all consequences ofyour actions. We're here to provide and discuss the framework. The pity lies in men who believe that happiness is something that only a woman can dispense, and even then, only afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:12 PM
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Those are incels, get your terms right.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:54 PM
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The issue is that with all of that discussion, thought, and philosophizing, TRP has been reduced into a sleazy pickup artist's gimmick with per-packaged slogans and pseudo advice for gullible incels. These latter ones make up the core of the Red Pill lately, I noticed this shift started to happen 5 years ago. Before that, all matter of discussion about the Red Pill was about how we are getting screwed by various players in the game of life, not just women, but also by society, the media, the gov…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:52 PM
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I thought red pill was all truth about male and female nature. It's about that and so much more. The issue here is that incels have hijacked the movement and fixated on women. Here is what the Red Pill is truly about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:48 PM
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you seem extremely set in your ways I would say I am extremely knowledgeable about the things in which I have chosen to believe. That means I am not easily convinced of anything that goes against the grain of my knowledge unless I am presented with a good reason to do so. Do not confuse that with stubbornness, it's skepticism and critical thought. and I’m frankly not interested in changing your mind. You'd be surprised how often people have changed my mind without intending to do so. If you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:45 PM
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No. I have been called everything in the book by women except creepy. Perhaps it's because I never approach them and I have never shown them any sexual or romantic intentions. Not even while walking on dark streets to these women see me as a creep or as some kind of danger to them. When I was younger and wore hoodies yes, the occasional side glance in case I was a mugger, but now that I am older and dress well (suit or well pressed dress shirt) I might as well be a tree or a light pole. I believ…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:38 PM
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I'm saying both. I am aware that it's all they ever talk about which is why I am calling attention to it. They have lost the goal, they are not aware of what the purpose of this thing is anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:30 PM
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I've gone this entire time without talking about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:25 PM
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It doesn't matter to me. I am here to dialogue, not to try and find a date. You could be a very advanced A.I. or even an extraterrestrial that has mastered the English language for all I care. It is unwise to close one's ears to what other people have to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:22 PM
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The truth about how we become convinced about things; and what we can do to check our beliefs in contrast to reality in order to make sure we are not being duped either by society or by our own wishful thinking. It isn't easy, and very often the truth hurts, which is why so many prefer comfortable lies even if these make them utterly miserable which is comical considering that they are miserable because facing reality will also make them miserable. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:19 PM
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By affirming the origin of the metaphor, and thus the original message, from which this thing originated in the first place. Once we cut the bullshit, the true thing underneath can shine again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:16 PM
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Indeed, but it is not impossible to influence and guide them either towards good or ill. So far, the Red Pill movement has been influenced negatively by incel culture. It's up to original and true Red Pillers to pick up the reigns and steer this horse away from the cliff that it's heading towards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:14 PM
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The Red Pill was never meant to be a sexual strategy, that is my point. It was supposed to be the act of waking up to the fact that we can be slaves to our own dicks when it takes over our thoughts and dreams. When all you ever think about is women women women how to get women how to please women you are essentially a slave, not to women, because women couldn't care less about you, but to your own delusion. The Red Pill is thus meant to break this machine, to free your mind and make you wake up …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:12 PM
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The majority of men who are red pilled are not hanging out on the internet. The ideology about attractive women is precisely the type of snake oil that Pickup Artists sell, and they package it with a Red Pill label to fool you into thinking it's profound knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:08 PM
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lol... I could have responded with a paper and crayon if you needed me to dumb it down a shade. Or better yet! I could have just grunted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:05 PM
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Perhaps a brief history of the beast will help. For the sake of this argument let us say we are going back to at least when the movie from which the imagery and metaphor of a Red Pill is taken from. But if we are really going to go deep into the rabbit hole we should start the discussion with Plato's Allegory of the Cave from which the idea behind the Metaphor behind the Red Pill is taken from. This is a very ancient idea in a new skin. Before the movie The Matrix came out there was another movi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 10:35 PM
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Hi, hello! MGTOW here. How you doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 10:24 PM
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Nope, why would it be odd? One of the biggest Red Pillers out there is Contrapoints (Warning: NSFW including Sarcasm, Satire, and blatantly Adult Humor). She is trans and she has a sharp mouth. So, like I said, arguments, statements, and points all need to stand on their own merit regardless of who uttered them. Whether a thing is coming from a Jewish dude with right wing leaning values or a trans woman with a sharp wit for snarky satire it is the message that they convey which has all the power…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 10:03 PM
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The Red Pill is not a community, it's an idea that is spread primarily online. Religion based on spiritual mythologies may be in the fritz but religions based on ideologies are very much alive and soaking up those who would otherwise have subscribed to a traditional religion. What do you think Wokeism, Veganism, Political Correctness, the Alt-Right, and every other -ism out there slithering about and taking religion's place right now are all about? It is all Religion by another name and they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:46 PM
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We are not a Hive. Some of us are anarchists in the full sense of the word, others are quite fascist and totalitarian minded. Some are indeed mindless drones while others are Free Thinkers and Thought Criminals. Some are misanthropes, others are Humanists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:37 PM
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You're getting down to brass tacks now. The Red Pill is indeed a borrowed metaphor from a 90's movie. But is the message behind the metaphor which makes it profound and eye opening. Arguing what is or isn’t truly “red pill” is like Star Trek fans arguing physics using the technobabble that was developed in some writer’s room to explain why a cast of characters survived at the end of an episode." And that is precisely why Nu-Trek sucks. Even among nerds arguing technobabble there needs to be an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:46 PM
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I always Facepalm whenever I come across those clowns who speak the lingo but have no clue about the movie. The red pill is a watered down meaningless buzzword now. Time to accept it. Nope. Time to restore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:57 PM
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Then the Red Pill subreddit is not really about the Red Pill. That is what I am calling attention to. It's the reason that place is dead. Average men don't have time for incel content disguised as something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:51 PM
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My life goals: Own property (Achieved) Financial security (Achieved) Gain more knowledge about life (Work in progress) Have kids (yet to be achieved) Pass down everything I have achieved in life including my knowledge to my kids (yet to be achieved) I believe these are simple enough. But hard as fuck to actually achieve though, let me tell 'ya. Philosophies I'm inspired by: Stoicism. Mythology. Specifically the King Archetype. That is why I have Perseus vs. Medusa as my icon. MGTOW philosophy. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:44 PM
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Absolutely. Someone has to do it. Gates need to be kept in check for a reason, it's to prevent the thing from becoming a shit show where everyone tries to hijack it for their own purposes. It's exactly what happened to Feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:56 PM
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You are asking me to go to the ones who have hijacked the movement in order to verify that their bastardized ideas are the original ones... hmm. The Red Pill is not a goal. That is another lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:54 PM
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The Wachowskis were dudes before they became women. lol And I do not feel anything. I believe ideas stand or collapse entirely on their own merit and not on the genitals of whoever postulated them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:50 PM
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Among other realities my friend. Women are not the only thing in life that we may harbor false beliefs on. Think of government, society, culture, media, parents, religion, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:44 PM
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AWALT is one of those bad notes, even among traditional Red Pill circles we have already discarded that notion and replaced it with "Female Nature." Which has it's own problems which is why it is still a hypothesis. Another bad note is the idea that a man's intrinsic value hinges on female - or societal - validation. Another bad note is the 80/20 rule which is just based on hilariously bad science. "Cuz a Dating App told me so! Dur." The "rule" comes from bad and lazy research - even for the App…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:28 PM
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I agree, The Red Pill can be used for specific things and it can be used as a metaphor in the subject of women and dating; but to monopolize the narrative to mean only that one thing is the corruption that I am talking about. That's what I am calling for attention here and the point of view I am asking for gynocentrics to challenge. Most men who think they are Red Pilled are in fact just blindly gynocentric. Their world revolves around women and they believe the red pill is a code in which to en…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:22 PM
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That is my point. The Red Pill is NOT and was never meant to be about "dating." The movement was hijacked by incels and Pickup artists after a rift in the Men's Rights movement started to use the metaphor for how men get screwed over in society, at work, by the government, and family court. It was used as a way to expose the lies of feminism which then led to exposing the lies of feminist writings and political narratives which then mutated into an exposé on women themselves; and then it just sn…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:14 PM
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It's like you didn't read anything at all of what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:09 PM
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Sorry, I don't understand your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:08 PM
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For the individual, it all comes down to sorting the wheat from the chaff and using what you've learned to make your life better. That's it. This 👆
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:06 PM
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Bruh, “women be shallow sometimes” isn’t the Grand Enlightenment you think it is. I never said that. The hell is this: the zen of the penis? lol that is a beautiful description of what undercover incels have turned the Red Pill into. I would say: The Red Pill ain't about your dick bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:54 PM
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You are on to something there. I would add that we also need to speak up when men start swapping the wrong notes and it becomes not about men but a crippling fixation on something that does not result as a benefit for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:52 PM
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The Black Pill is a metaphor for the despair that comes after being Red Pilled. It's a metaphor for Nihilism, whereas the Red Pill is a metaphor for Waking Up. Once a man gets Red Pilled he reacts in several ways, the most common reaction is the Red Pill Rage. This is usually a temporary phase where a man react with extreme anger and rage, he starts to question and to deconstruct everything. Most men recover but a few never get past it and stay angry. Another reaction is to become a nihilist, to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:45 PM
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All red pill talks about its women. Because those men's worlds revolve around women. They are stuck. They have no perception of a world outside of that mindset. Outside of that Matrix, if you will. They were sold on the lie that The Red Pill is some kind of magic bean that will get them the ladies. That’s all they’ve talked about since the beginning. I have been here since before the beginning when we were called by other names. I have seen how the metaphor and the spirit of the movement has bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:28 PM
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The issue that I am bringing up here is that the meaning of the metaphor "Red Pill" has been so thoroughly lost that most people who use it are actually using it in it's antithetical meaning. Red Pilled means you got woken up to reality, usually by a harsh truth. There is a synonym for Red Pill that isn't in vogue anymore: A Wake Up Call. Getting Red Pilled is the same meaning as getting a wake up call. It's a metaphor for getting slapped by information, an event, or an experience that forces yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:07 PM
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Stronger libido leads to wider range of people becoming attractive. I am not twisting your words, I am telling you that you are dead wrong. A strong libido in men only amplifies the desire to obtain what he is already attracted to, it does not widen his spectrum of things he finds attractive. Even when I was at my horniest, as a hormonal teenager, I would never find women that I was previously found unattracted to suddenly be attractive just because my libido shot up. That is NOT how a man's sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:36 PM
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You don't think that we actually have to feel sexually attracted to someone as a pre-requisite before we would feel any inclination towards wanting to fuck them? Let me tell 'ya. Even at my absolute horniest I will never feel turned on by women that I do not find sexually appealing. This should not need to be explained! Just because men are mega horny does not mean we literally would want to fuck anything. The libido has standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:46 PM
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A failed marriage is a marriage that didn't last a lifetime? Yes, how else would you define a failure in a contract that states: "Till death do us part" when the parting takes place when both are still very much alive? My skydiving analogy is meant to emphasize the devastating consequences to a man when the woman decides to end the marriage by likening it to hitting the ground at 120 mph. A divorce is a life-destroying event for a man. And what is worse is that divorce is structured in such a wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:31 PM
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Only incels screech and make these high pitched wails demanding that women ignore their preferences and choose them like some obnoxious Pokemon. "Creepy Freak! I choose you!" I'm just saying that demanding that women just take these guys by force is just so pathetic there isn't even a word to describe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:52 PM
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This is all learned behavior. One of the greatest lies every sold to women. Disagreablenes is not something that can be taught. Nobody teaches boys to pursue for the sake of pursuing. It is just pure instinct! What society does is try to use our instincts against us by selling us on sex the way PUAs sell their slimy dating advice to incels. We want sex, instinctively and urgently, and what society does is capitalize on this urge by slapping sex appeal on anything that is geared towards men. "Buy…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:41 PM
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Because our sexuality just doesn't work that way. That is like saying that when you are out of gas just fill up your car with water - same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:24 PM
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The idea that “you can’t control who you’re attracted to” is disingenuous Would you care to test your hypothesis? Pick the person that you are most unattracted to and then just will yourself into being attracted to them and come back and tell us all how it went. Until then, avoid asserting your wish as if it were realistic. Simply put, due to their enormous sex drive men have extremely low standards when it comes to both sexual partners and long term relationships. If that were true then why are…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:22 PM
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That is not how our sexuality works. We have to actually be turned on by the other person, otherwise it's no launch.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:38 PM
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I can safely say we would choose to be Asexual. Every man appreciates the aggravation of constantly being undermined by our sexual urges and unavoidable distractions with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:24 PM
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No because it entirely depends on what the man wants. If he wants casual sex it is definitely the best time to engage in that, but if he wants a relationship it is neither a good or a bad time because that it mostly depends on is his status, not his age. Men usually gain more status as we age though, which is why the majority of younger men find it very hard for women to take them seriously - they have little or nothing to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:00 PM
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Just because we are physically attracted to a lot of women - and want to bang them all - doesn't mean we actually want them. You are ignoring our sexual capacity to fuck even women that we hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 07:52 PM
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You always hear about guys needing to “sow their wild oats” Brother may I have some oats? It seems like casual sex on demand is the holy grail for a lot of men on this sub. Is it objectively as great a lifestyle as it’s made out to be? It would be if women didn't sell their sexual value on a dating market. Extremely few women ever have sex just for the fun of it without expecting payment of some sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 07:55 PM
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Since you want to be a straight shooter now let me put it to you this way: It's a very cheap and lazy move on your part to attempt to invalidate my point by dismissing it as immature. As if something that even a 14yo can grasp somehow makes the message beneath the wisdom of your elders.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:23 PM
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I wasn't aware that pictography (using pictures to make statements) had maturity levels. So what's the maturity level of an octagonal stop sign 'you reckon?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:03 PM
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Men neither, that's why it amuses me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:10 PM
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Possibly, this ain't that deep broh...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:04 PM
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Hello, MGTOW here, how you doing? 👋
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:01 PM
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So am I because I choose whom to call my friends very carefully. I am much happier being on my own and not having to sustain relationships. Maintaining friendships is a chore. Most people somehow get convinced that they need friends and then find out that actually having them is a burden. Maybe it's because I'm a Sigma Male but to me friends are extremely rare and that's because I do not enjoy having them, they feel like a chore, an unnecessary burden on my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:46 PM
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I don't know if this person is male or female but I am not interested in mocking them. It just amuses me the way women emphasize social skills as a pre-requisite to court them and then once they have you in their clutches they want you to drop all of your friends and especially your girl friends, and all the rest of your social life. No more wandering eyes or smiling at Stacy over there on the vegetable aisle; and she don't care if she was your childhood friend 'you better not talk to that skank…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:40 PM
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I was not talking about male friends at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:35 PM
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Then when you get into a relationship she doesn't want you to have any female friends. So you spend all this time learning how to become friends with all women just so that when you start dating one you have to throw all that away for her. lol Getting a lover and a friend are not the same things. You can be abysmal at making friends yet you can be a good lover. Likewise you can not be a lover at all and still have an army of female friends. You do not have to be vulnerable to women when you talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:15 PM
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Good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:31 PM
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I don's see a downvote button or arrow on my side. The subreddit specifically asks that we do not downvote anyone and I figured they just removed the downvote option on the interface here. Anyway, I believe across the board that people are ultimately responsible for themselves whether it's getting married or getting drunk. I still believe getting married is a stupidity - just like doing meth - but I am not going to stop people from doing it if it does not affect me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:17 PM
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The downvote button isn’t a “disagree” button. Huh? There is no downvote button. If two people want to be together then they should be together, no legally binding contracts involved and especially not getting the government involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 08:28 AM
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My intention is not to convince men but to inform and warn them so that they know what they are getting themselves into. Once men are fully aware of what marriage actually is and they still decide to go ahead with it then these guys are just daredevils playing with their lives and do not deserve any pity when they get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 07:51 AM
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Choosing a wife is a financial decision? Interesting. No love, no affection or any of that sentimentality and what not? You see a woman and you think to yourself "Wow, she's a keeper, she is really going to boost my portfolio. I wonder what my tax deductions will amount to." Sounds mighty romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:59 AM
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Prenups can be thrown out of court. They are as protective as a wet napkin against an oncoming bus. These things don’t just happen to people. You can take steps to avoid being put in this situation. With all that effort and chore why not just state the obvious and say that not getting married in the first place is by far the better option for all men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:52 AM
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Getting married to a woman is like skydiving off a plane. If the instructor were to tell you that there is a 41-50% chance that the parachute is going to fail, and you are going to splat on the ground at terminal velocity, would you still jump? And what is there worth jumping off a plane for with a near 50% chance of death? What can possibly make it worth it? Keep in mind the you would still need to pay to skydive, it's not free, just like you need to pay in a marriage. You pay not just with mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:37 AM
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It means you have your life in order. I think you are specifically asking what that would look like. Well, here is what having your shit together would look like: You own your own Home, or other properry, or at the very least having a viable long term plan for acquiring one. You take care of your health and hygiene. You work out, stay active, have good nutrition, you groom well, you shower daily and diligently, and you get a professional opinion which brings point number 3. You have a doctor and…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:02 PM
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Yes and no. Those only work for boys who want it. Send a disagreeable boy to bootcamp and he will despise society even more for it. This is why volunteer armies and teams always beat conscripts. Also boys seemed to do fine in school when corporal punishment was around That is also what led to the epidemic of sociopaths in the 60's all the way to the 80's. Ever wonder why the most notorious serial killers rose in this era? Also, in those old days not all boys even went to school, many dropped out…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 06:49 PM
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No, even as boys we are highly disagreeable. It means we despise authority. What men need is the freedom to discover, map, and then conquer structures. We do not need authorities, we need guides. Elder men who have been there and done that, and who have come back from the adventure to report back to the troop that there is indeed something over the hill. Men are very aggressively against Authoritarians, but we instinctively respect leaders and especially a merit based hierarchy. We look up to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 05:17 PM
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I have no intention or reason for being nice. It's not as if I will win any brownie points for it here. I am just stating the facts. Just because I am MGTOW doesn't mean I don't find women hot and attractive, that includes a bunch of women who have had kids. It just means I control myself and I do not give in to it because I have other goals in life. You can certainly give up on something in life that will still forever tempt you, try giving up a relatively mild temptation like sugar and see wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:28 PM
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Yes and no. Masculinity is both an ideal, a goal, and it is also a state of reality. Evil, unproductive, and pillaging men are still masculine although they are far from constructive. Masculinity encompass both the good and the evil of men. It is foolish to deny one or repress the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:09 PM
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Google: "Lack of Context."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:06 PM
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A guy beating the shit out of a dozen men is not weak, he is just high as hell on crack.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 09:48 AM
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Then what do you mean by quoting Justice and Fairness as a joke if you have no punchline? What is the joke here?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 09:47 AM
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Masculinity is a form of controlled violence. Much the same way electricity is controlled lightning and a stoves are controlled fire. Raw violence is not masculinity, it is actually a weakness. Violent men are usually very morally and psychologically weak men. It takes men who have their own violence under control to keep these destructive cowards under control.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 09:43 AM
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Boldness, Passion, Virility, Courage, Wisdom, Tenacity, Strength, Endurance, Wit, Charm, Humor, Power, Discipline, Intelligence, Cunning, Veracity, Honor, Pride, Intrepid, Adventurer, Explorer, Inventive, Creative, Spirited, Stoic, Competent, Talented, etc... It is no wonder so many men feel emasculated by the times. They all believe their manhood is something that is given to them rather than something that has to be created, earned, and then asserted. What are some ways to affirm a man’s mascu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 09:25 AM
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You can't call something a joke if you are missing the punchline.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 09:04 AM
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I don't think women "ruin their bodies" when they get pregnant. I have seen plenty of women who have kids and they are still very attractive. By the way, we are all depreciating assets to society. Ask anyone over 60.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 09:03 AM
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"PurplePillDebate is a neutral community to discuss sex, relationship and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/TheBluePill and /r/TheRedPill." The discussion I brought up is well within topic because it is a gender issue pertaining to dating and it is well within the Red Pill sphere of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:22 PM
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A good personality is the necessary social skills and a demeanor that is both easy and pleasant to interact with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:09 PM
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The reason you are getting a lot of hate is because you are advocating for a dick move. You failed to establish why women do not merit the loyalty of a man by shifting the burden of proof on the audience by questioning why this is wrong when you should be justifying why we, as a society, should consider this to be right. I can tell you why this is wrong, and keep in mind this is a MGTOW giving you a lesson on how to treat women which should really say something. You are deliberately throwing the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:27 PM
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My advice is to stop obsessing over women. The misery of these men lies in their unattainable fixation on something in which exists more in their imagination than in reality. The women they chase are an illusion. Figments of their gynocentric addled imaginations. Revolutionary! I know. Telling men that the option to opt-out of women is always on the table. Like telling a drug addict that it is possible to just quit the drug. So guys, if you are struggling to get women have any of you ever just s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:54 PM
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The Pink Pill is women's version of the Red Pill. Specifically, pink pillers have more in common with MGTOW. They are essentially WGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:49 PM
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You are correct. We are not averse to women's hypergamous nature because from an evolutionary point of view it is the way in which women ensure that only the best genes that men have to offer get passed down. It's the reason we are sexually dimorphic. That is why we are taller, stronger, faster, and more aggressive than women; because these are the genes and their concurrent personality traits that best ensured not just a man's survival in the wild but also insured her survival and the survival …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:51 PM
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As a man I am very easy to attract. As a MGTOW I am impossible to impress. I have no standards because the answer is always no.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:40 PM
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I was making a cynical remark about the reality of how most relationships actually turn out as opposed to how we make-believe they should turn out. There'd be no point in having relationships if we didn't get anything from them ourselves. Speaking my language there. Yes we usually feel motivated to pursue relationships when we feel we have something to gain, even if that something is actually a loss. In OP's commentary the men pursuing relationships are seeking to get rescued. That's a desperati…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:49 PM
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Not gonna happen. The reason cold approaching women is a social faux pas is because people in general do not like being approached by strangers without their consent and especially from strangers who do not signal their intent way in advanced. This is why it is only acceptable within a setting where such a thing is to be expected, and therefore not a surprise to anyone, like at a club, a bar, a party or a gathering. This is human psychology 101. You don't cold approach people for the same reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:40 PM
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It would be illegal if it weren't. There are instances where a 20yo guy having a relationship with a 50yo woman would be immoral - but not illegal - if she has a terminal illness and he is only gold digging for her money. Context is everything. Both parties have to be aware of what they are getting themselves into and understand the consequences. A shorter lifespan does not make one less accountable or less intelligent so that they are unable to comprehend the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 08:08 PM
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To make someone else happy. Relationships are not about you. I know several men who were borderline suicidal until they met their wife and then they say things like "she saved my life" That is immensely pathetic. That's the modern state of masculinity in some parts unfortunately. Grown children seeking a mother. Boys seeking saviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 07:31 PM
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Don't care. Not relevant to either my life or this place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 07:26 PM
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I just added the song cause I like it. It's message, mood, and tone fit the discussion here quite well. Consider the lyrics: "Fragments of a broken time Tells a story of decline Nothing ventured, nothing gained It is always just the same" One can easily see the selective memory of conservatism through their "fragments of a broken time," meaning, they see the past through rose tinted lenses; and then fool themselves into believing that the old days where good old days. This sense of a complacent …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:09 PM
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I think half of women are not actually "traditionally" feminine. You probably don't subscribe to groupthink for the same reason some men don't subscribe to it either. It comes with a strong sense of self. It is better to be thought of as moody and confrontational rather than a pushover and meek.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:48 PM
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What isn't common is that I can count both of those groups with one hand. I am very selective about who I choose to care about. The weird thing is, I dislike people in general - but for some reason, if you have health issues, I want to help fix them. It’s weird." It is generally know that women feel more fulfilled in genuinely helping others, especially those in real need. In contrast men feel a strong sense of fulfillment in protecting the vulnerable and in providing for their needs. The two in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:36 PM
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You can die from hunger. You can’t die from not getting laid The brain does not know the difference. One urge may feel as existentially necessary as the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:28 PM
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So, I really, really want to believe that people who do bad things have something wrong with them, but I just don't think that's always the case. Nope, it is not always the case. To err is to be human. I'd be more suspicious of someone who never harms anyone. People are always going to be abrasive even on occasion. We lose patience, we get tired sometimes, we snap, we act careless, moody, exited or tired. It's part of life. Anyone with the social skills of a toddler should be aware of the fact t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:13 PM
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The only women who matter to me are those in my family and those I am friends with - which is to say very few. Perhaps I may feel a pang of sympathy for the odd stranger now and then; but ultimately I am very self centered because caring for women has never turned out well for me. I learn from my own mistakes as well as the mistakes of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:34 PM
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This is written like a horrifying manifesto. You are basically calling me a drama queen, and you'd be kinda right. I accentuate for dramatic effect. Especially because people around here have the habit of not understanding what I say unless I flavor it with the same sort of shrill drama that everyone is used to reading. I think you're projecting on all men because I don't believe all men are hardwired to be salivating, uncontrollable animals that are one popped shirt button away from ravishing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:23 PM
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I am not white but if anyone calls me a racial slur that fails to make me laugh I am taking their teeth. As a man I have experienced way more sexism out of women than I have ever experienced racism from anyone. And mind you, I have been profiled by cops! And those racist bastards showed more courtesy that the typical woman treats me when she thinks she is entitled to my time and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:53 PM
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Somehow I don't see Charles Manson as an incel. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:48 PM
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I'm not as sharp tongued as that sexy bastard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:45 PM
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You first need to demonstrate that it's an entitlement and not a ravenous compulsion and biological urge where all sense of entitlement is actually irrelevant. The starving man does not feel entitled to food, he couldn't care less for the morality of theft, he is going to take what he needs, he will fight, steal, or even kill if he has to. I find it hilarious that women so utterly fair to understand this. But it is also understandable. Women do not suffer the same strong urges as men. For men th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:38 PM
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Don't poo poo on self improvement now. I think you just have your screws and nails mixed up. What common folk call Self Improvement is in reality Self Actualization. The road to get there is unique to every man. Your problem sounds like you are using Self Actualization as a means to an end rather than as a ends all to itself. If the only reason you are doing any self improvement like exercise, career, grooming, social skills etc is because you are looking for something else, other than the thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:48 PM
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Why would I care if I make a girl wet? Is that how you validate your manhood or something? 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:22 PM
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Takes one to know one 😉 FDS are just Pink Pilled WGTOW in hard denial. They hate men, it's no secret, but for some reason that I can't imagine they have convinced themselves that they want men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:14 PM
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I personally know who’ve rejected the advances of decently attractive and successful guys for different reasons: their personalities didn’t click, or they weren’t emotionally mature, or perhaps they had some overly reductionist view of women… I said this: "women are less enthralled by a man's good looks when he opens his mouth and reveals deal-breaking character flaws;" and only true for those who have built up resentment and resistance to women’s perspectives. I have built such a resentment and…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:03 PM
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All women do not have the same level of complexity and thought processes. Obviously. You really think women overlook deal breaking character flaws? I said the opposite of this. There are so many women who are in openly abusive relationships but stay anyways because they overlook it. That's an entirely different issue than what is being discussed here. There are women who date men with opposite political views, and women who date men they have nothing in common with because they like how he looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:49 PM
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It's kinda redundant to abolish something that is meaningless. Love has never been a factor in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:34 PM
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I didn't say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:29 PM
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These women can't fathom how their bitter, cynical, and toxic nature is a repellent for men in general. Not even counting the "good men."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:57 PM
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Do women you’re not attracted to you mean anything to you at all? No. Do you look up to or admire any women? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:57 PM
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I do. But as you know freedom is not free. It comes at a cost, or a loss. The freedoms one finds in adulthood, for example, come at the cost and loss of the carefree days of childhood. Freedom involves sacrifices, what we sacrifice is always a loss - or else it's not a sacrifice but a currency. A great deal of men don't stay with women they don't love even when there are kids involved because such men are very often completely alienated from them by the mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:53 PM
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Choosing your friends is your prerogative. Any woman who feels some type of way because you choose to walk away after her rejection, rather than allow her to subtly string you along - because that is exactly the intent behind her phony offer of "friendship" - is a deviously manipulative sociopath. These low-key sluts do not want "friends." They want orbiters. Beta-simps at her beck and call, friends that she can call favors on. She knows she can use your feelings as a coercive factor to manipula…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:50 AM
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Love is a complicating factor. Once love is in the equation we are talking about a whole different beast here. I concede that if you love a woman and you are fucking her, if she does not reciprocate your love it will potentially kill your lust for her. But this is only because lust and libido take a back seat when genuine love is the primary factor at play here. Most men do not fall in love on the spot at the very moment they set eyes on a woman. They gradually fall in love with a woman through …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:34 AM
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I believe you don't have a clue of what you're talking about. Women's attraction I believe is EXACTLY the same as mens. This is exactly what middle schoolers believe about girls - when they're not picking on them or pulling on their hair to get their attention. As in they find the same things attractive. Initial attractions may be similar - such as the sudden impact of having good looks when one walks in the room. Once the fog of that initial shock settles, men and women are NOT the same, at all…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:18 AM
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Let's not pretend we give a fuck about men in prison now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:47 AM
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I am aware. But my vision is not nearsighted. I am patient. Some of the things I desire may take more than my own lifetime to attain. Some may even take centuries. Men like me are committed to the long haul of history.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:42 AM
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I am not doing semantics here I am clarifying our terms. Desire and Receptiveness are NOT the same thing. That is why I established their contrast to emphasize that men do NOT desire to be desired. Men are the ones who do the desiring and we wish for women to be receptive to our desire; and in turn reciprocate it through acceptance, appreciation, and respect. What we want from women is not for them to desire and be thirsty for us on the get go, we want their appreciation, affections, and respect…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:39 AM
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Here is a not so novel idea: How about we abolish marriage? Marriage serves no purpose in the modern age. Women do not even require the presence of a man either to feed, shelter or clothe themselves nor even to raise kids. Marriage is a totally archaic institution. Abolish it! Problem solved. Men and women can each go their own way. If a guy wants to help a woman raise the kids good for him, if he does not want to be a father that's his right. If women want to be alone and need no man, more powe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:43 PM
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They realize life is too short to commit to one person My ears perked up on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:30 PM
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I make about 4x the median per-capita income and about 3x the median household income in my area... Randomly making fun of me or trying to put me down will not be tolerated Your weight is not your problem friend. Work on those social skills, particularly on communication. The ability to handle and tolerate the abrasive demeanor of random people is a hallmark of both social skills and emotional maturity. If you are too fragile to handle blunt or harsh criticism then you shouldn't be putting yours…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:18 PM
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This is not the comment I thought I was responding to. Forget my last reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:11 PM
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Of course. I am not a doctor either; but I play one on the internet to dispense these Red Pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:05 PM
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If desire isn't a factor then you might as well use a fleshlight. Precisely why fleshlights sell so well. If that doesn't sound appealing, then I hate to be the one to tell you, but you crave desire as well. You are confusing consent with desire. A prostitute can consent to sex with me, that does not mean she desires me. You are also confusing a piece of plastic with a real woman. These are not the same nor are they interchangeable. Even when a dude is fucking his fleshlight he is imagining that…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 05:59 PM
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If men are so easily able to be sexually manipulated into having sex without consent... That's not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 05:49 PM
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First, in the normal and average male psyche we are the ones who do the desiring. It is not required that we be desired in order to feel sexually aroused, all that we require is a woman's permission and her receptiveness. The core of our sexuality is something that emanates, it is something we give off. Emotionally, we desire to love more than we desire to be loved. It's an unusual aberration that these men desire to be desired when this has never been a prerequisite for our affections. A great …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 05:40 PM
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Not really, I just pretend to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 04:59 PM
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That is exactly what the person I was responding to was arguing, that is why I flipped the script and added a man in that role.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 04:55 PM
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I don't believe it's bad, I just find it repulsive. Like when men wear shoes without socks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:23 PM
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The women in this sub aren't distinct from average women. For one thing, the vast majority of women here are not even single. They only come here for the diversion and for some amusement. The opinions and feelings that they express on this sub are indistinguishable from the average woman. My point is that the men in this sub are not normal. You implied that they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:21 PM
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That's fine. Men definitely see the difference. That is why these types of guys tend to hide their closet-girlfriends from their male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:16 PM
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You said men stay for the ego boost and the sex. I countered that by saying that men do not function that way. Specifically I said that men stay out of cowardice and complacency. It's an emasculated state which is why it is totally opposite to your notion that it is somehow an ego boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:08 PM
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The implication is that the sample of men in this sub is somehow representative of the majority. When in actual fact, all the men in this sub, including myself, we are the outliers, the exceptions to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 10:00 PM
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Settling until they find what they are actually looking for. Some men just never find a woman that they truly love and thus stay settled with their current placeholder for life. Then there is also the fact that some men do not have the courage to be single, either because society shames single men, or they feel inept without a woman mommying them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:58 PM
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At first, yes. Then the onus is on the man to keep her attracted once the novelty of his physical attraction wears off. This is what the majority of men do not comprehend about female nature. There is a reason we call it the cock carousel, other than the metaphor of it going round and round while she rides every horsie on it. Carousels are found in circuses. Women love the circus, they love the variety, the novelty, and the unpredictability of it. They especially love the clowns. But ultimately …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:54 PM
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Men do not function that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:26 PM
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If a man is at a state where he craves being desired in order to enjoy sex then he has much bigger problems than just a crappy sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:24 PM
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This sub is not representative of the average man. Go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:20 PM
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That's because the men of this sub are very effeminized and emote the same way women do. It also doesn't help that a great deal of them are self-deluded and do this strange form of mirroring women's emotions in the hopes of attracting them. It's precisely the reason they are in here and not out there in the real world attracting real women. Any normal man would be happy and thrilled to have a prostitute just to satiate his animal lust. These guys here emote like women, they were most likely rais…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 09:13 PM
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Being desired may boost one's ego but as a man it does nothing for the libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 08:32 PM
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Prostitutes are workers. As any working stiff will tell you: You don't have to have your heart in it in order to do the job. Just show up, do what is asked, collect payment, and leave. Some prostitutes enjoy what they do, some don't. They have their ups and downs, good days and bad days just like any other worker. It's a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 08:30 PM
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Your first error is the belief that complete trustworthiness is even possible of any human. The only trustworthy person to ever exist was Jesus Christ, and even this story is not completely trustworthy because Jesus may not have even existed for all we know. So lesson #1 Trust no one. In the case of rape, this is not a breach of trust; it is a form of violent theft. If a man trusts a woman with his wallet - for example - and a mugger strikes her from behind and forcefully steals the wallet from …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 08:23 PM
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Meeting and having experiences with different people in general makes you a more knowledgeable and more well rounded person. This is true and I am not speaking against it. What I am speaking up against is the implied insinuation that dating and women in general are somehow essential towards man's Self-Actualization. Because it is not. The Buddha did not attain enlightenment until after he completely gave up women along with the rest of the illusions of this world. This idea that women are essent…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 08:03 PM
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Perhaps you can't detect men's insecurity as well as men can. I see it all the time, in grown men. I also see women showing passive resentment when they feel that their man isn't guarding her, perhaps taking her for granted (in her opinion). The only couples who seemingly never do this are old, very old, couples - as in grandparents. Also, it's not as if it's only men who act possessive and guard their mate. I have noticed far more often how women physically close in on their man whenever a pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:57 PM
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This brings up another point: Men do not guard what they don't care about. And women know this. That's why more women feel offended when men show zero jealousy than when they act insecure in the presence of a potential rival. This is Humanomics 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 01:40 AM
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dating gives you learning experiences and aids in self actualization. That is a Blue Pilled mindset and a very noxious deception. Dating most often makes men lose sight of what is important in their lives. Just because are are becoming better at pleasing random women does not mean you are self actualizing. You are confusing female validation with self-actualization. This is a great deception. Don't fall for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 01:36 AM
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Having a relationship to a woman is not fundamental. That is a worse outlook than the man who value a valuable car. Also why the fuck do men have to go on a spriitual journey to unlock our third fucking eye just for a relationship and family ? Because these men were already on the path to unlocking that third eye before they were trapped in the delusion of women. They then find out that relationships with women are not the goal, they are a stumbling block. For other men, when they figure out how…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 01:27 AM
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Self esteem is an imaginary thing invented by people who believe they can control the thoughts and feelings of others. Before the 1980's the concept of self esteem didn't even exist and humanity got along quite fine. Self esteem is an insidious slippery slope towards self pity. We would be looking from the inside-out and not from outward-in. This is how you trap people inside their own heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 01:10 AM
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If more men had non-gynocentric goals in life, and focused on self-actualization, less men would be hung up on women's opinions about them. Men want to be in relationships because they are convinced that this will fill the void in their life combined with the mistaken belief that this will satiate biological urges. Men's error here is in precipitating a solution before they understand the problem. The problem is that they haven't yet figured out how to exist as free agents because the power that…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 01:07 AM
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It wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 01:02 AM
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What I am saying is that you are severely underestimating how complicated humans are. Your views are naively simplistic. For example: You are ignoring that perhaps someone is stuck in the relationship, there could be kids involved, religious convictions, contracts, or other social, legal, moral, or familial obligations. Not everyone can just get up and leave. Most affairs are temporary flings which go unperceived. You only ever hear about the ones where they got caught. Your words remind me of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:24 AM
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Vast majority of women aren’t getting unsolicited favours from men on the regular You are most welcome. - Your friendly neighborhood MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:18 AM
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That entirely depends on the type of attention we want. Rappers seek attention all the time to the point where it can literally get them shot. They figure the risk is worth it. So you know men will take very high risks for very stupid things right off the bat. Plus you are ignoring the fact that men tend to defend themselves when attacked and we do not expect any saviors to come to our rescue in anything. The hypothetical trade off you are postulating here doesn't really make any sense because m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:10 AM
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Because humans are not flawed in any way. Temptation and weakness don't exist and willpower is always final and perpetual. No man can ever possibly cheat because he is going through a rough patch with his girlfriend. Women are always the perfect girlfriends, they never have mood swings and never act overly emotional or crazy about anything which may cause a man to freak out, feel exasperated, overwhelmed, or unloved, or taken for granted. Nothing that would urge him to seek physical or emotional…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:43 PM
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Women hate mate-guarding (only when men do it) because they want the freedom to cheat and use their sexual wiles to manipulate other men, even if they don't actually intend to cheat - which is placing a lot of faith on women's strength of character which we all know is supremely flawed. But nonetheless, women feel perfectly entitled to snoop, spy, and embed themselves all up in a man's business to make sure he doesn't cheat. Women do not moralize as men do. Women do not have a concept of fairnes…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:38 PM
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Nobody is going to be able to hypnotise her into cheating, that's still a choice she would make. If she was somehow completely manipulated I don't think you could even count that as cheating, WTF? You do realize you basically just gave carte blanch to all men who cheat right? Unless you hypocritically claim that only women are excused using this reason that you just gave. Considering men are far more biologically and socially susceptible to fall for the sexual manipulation of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:28 PM
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Love is a type of slavery. When you have it, it rules your entire life, your free will is the first casualty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:20 PM
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True... Well, this warrior-gardener wishes you luck in your pursuits. And a word of caution. Be very careful with love when you find it, because you may also find that you may not want it after you are bound with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 07:05 AM
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Before we continue, I need you to look up what a narcissist is in order for you to understand why saying that a narcissist that doesn't need other people is like saying a plant doesn't need water. But I will say this: Being invisible is the goal. You are miserable because you are dependent on women to take that misery away. Women are your savior, a strange form of a collective Messiah. You want women to save you by validating you. Taking the red pill means realizing this denigration and then hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 06:52 AM
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but if men want to say they want a SAHM partner… they need to be able to afford it Men want a lot of things that they cannot afford. There is no incentive for men to man up either. We have overhauled that entire mindset. I don't think men outside of retrograde conservative circles even want a stay at home mom. Why would they? This is a burden on their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 06:41 AM
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Exactly what is wrong with being a 40yo virgin? You speak as if a great deal of your masculinity hinges on that premise. As if your manhood rests on female validation. For a growing number of men, being without women is the goal. I am on my way to being 40 and it's amazing. Amazing because I have properties, a business, passive income, a huge savings, and more than enough leisure time and wealth than I know what to do with. All because I focused on making my own life better instead of wasting it…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 06:15 AM
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Why wouldn't they? A man without money is like woman without looks. Both are invisible. If you notice a guy it's only because you noticed the bulge on his pants, and I don't mean his ding dong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 06:02 AM
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Exactly the reason nobody talks about Ukraine anymore now that all the women are out. Literal piles of dead men in mass graves and no one gives a flying fu..' choooo! scuse me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:58 AM
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Why would I want to birth kids just to go back to an office and use most of my paycheck to pay someone else who gets to enjoy all of my kids’ big moments and shape them as a person? Because feminists did not ask you what you want. They told you what you should want. That you should want to be a successful badass CEO boss lady who don't need no man but is still married to one who should be no less than a Billionaire Playboy who is still somehow loyal to you and the both of you still make babies, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:55 AM
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Men don't get rich by being conned out of their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:48 AM
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Shouldn't the question really be: Men. How many of you are hiding your true selves from women in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:44 AM
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They said I had a learning disability when I was a kid. Then I was told I was above average in intelligence just few years latter, then they finally settled on me being average. I do not know what it's like or have either of those things which afflict you though. There is nothing I can possibly say to make you feel any better about your luck. Only the truth that both you and I are somewhere in the middle between heaven and hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:33 AM
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Very often we are dealt a very shitty hand in life. Whether it's bad luck or bad genes we all get smeared at some point. The difference between a great man and a normal man is how we choose to deal with the bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:26 AM
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If I may be so bold as to ask: What exactly are we talking about here? Specifically what flaw is afflicting you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:37 PM
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The ability to function asocially is an adaptation my friend. It's an ability that I trained my self on, (I'm a MGTOW Monk) so that I can go for extreme long periods of time without interacting with other people. I enjoy the solitude, it's a commodity I am willing to pay for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:34 PM
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No. It means that deep down we admit to ourselves that: Yes, whatever else is on the table it is the money that women are truly after. How do we know this? Because when everything else is on the table - looks, dedication, passion, intelligence, potential, youth, etc - when we take the money factor off, women tend to walk away. After riding the Cock Carousel of course. So this is very good news for men who only want to smash it and trash it but for those men who are serious minded and are looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 08:27 PM
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If a flaw cannot be fixed then ask the following questions: Can you live with it? Can you ignore it? Has it been festering? What is preventing you from fixing it? What is the cost of this flaw? Can you afford it? What price am I willing to pay, what sacrifices am I willing to make to eradicate this flaw? And, will the sacrifice be worth it in the end? If not, then it's not that big of a flaw to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 08:07 PM
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It's not healthy to stay the same person especially in today's ever-changing world, it would mean that you haven't grown in years.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 08:04 PM
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Can't avoid women 100% of the time so it takes re-training to learn to interact with women in a in pragmatic and minimalist way. Not all MGTOW avoid women though, some indulge in the pump n' dump game.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 06:36 PM
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We are all ourselves today. That doesn't mean that the man you are today will be the same man you will be a year from now. You can gradually change, you will always be yourself all throughout, but over the course of time you will not be the same person. This is how evolution works. For example: Birds are still technically dinosaurs, they've never stopped being themselves. The boy you were in childhood and the man you are now are still your same self, but tell me, are you still the same person?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 05:24 PM
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The best alternative to be yourself is to be the ideal. Visualize what your ideal self should be, what you truly want to be after some honest soul searching, and then just start acting like it, bit by bit, day by day. You will not turn into your ideal self overnight. You gotta work at it. You gotta figure out the flaws, their nature, and how to fix them at their core without pretenses or a phony personalization of what you wish you should be. You have to start one small problem at a time. Man's …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 05:12 PM
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I don't have a sex life but I still keep my body in shape: Regular exercise and workout, eat well, groom well, and dress well. I avoid sex because I am MGTOW. I have other priorities in life. Right now I am in the process of finalizing the acquisition of a new property and managing a new business. Even if I wanted a woman at this point in my life there is simply no time and no energy left. I maintain my looks because looking good has pleasant side effects in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 04:48 PM
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I can go indefinitely without sex. In fact that is my goal from here on out. If in a parallel universe I wasn't MGTOW I would never cheat. If I were to tell a woman that she is the only one I'd actually mean it. Just as I am serious about never actually having a woman in my life. Sex has zero value for me, it is a low biological urge no different than wanting to take a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:34 PM
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First, you can start by not giving a fuck about what celebrities are doing. That is already off to a bad starts because those fucking weirdos do not represent the general population one bit. Second: You should endear yourself to him. Demonstrate your value and your dignity while also being approachable. Men value women whom they think of as a person with depth and a background instead of some Stacy for a smash 'n dash. Start by trying to be friends and find common ground and interests that only …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:27 PM
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Women cannot understand men, therefore they are mad in the form of feminism. I don't see a problem to talk to my friend or even BF about what makes me angry, and what I assume to be sexims, discrimination, and so on." The problem is not merely talking about it. It becomes a problem when women talk about it all the time to the point where it becomes your default attitude and your entire world-view. It is when it becomes your Victim-tinted lenses that it becomes a problem for men because men - bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:12 PM
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This is the second childish reply you send to me. I can only conclude that you must be an actual child, and if so, you should not be here talking to strange men. This is not a good place for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:35 PM
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Codes aren't hard to figure out, but their meaning sure as hell is. Women demonstrate over and over again that they have no clue as to what we mean when we say the things that we say. Gonna be honest most of them are playing dumb because they want to see what you guys really say or think. lol we are aware of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:31 PM
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I said no such thing. Learn to read. Reading comprehension is fundamental.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:57 PM
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Why are you putting words in my mouth? Nobody is saying an ugly man is Chad. But an ugly men can screw you over. What I am saying is that women usually do not let themselves get screwed over by ugly men. It’s been proven, by science that men over estimate their own attractiveness and women underestimate there’s. If you had bothered to read that actual "science" behind those studies you would know that it is not the case that men overestimate their attractiveness, it's just men don't care about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:01 PM
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People who engage in that nonsense are the living example of Aesop's fable of the dog by the river.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:39 PM
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It is definitely a generational thing. Younger kids are even more coddled and sheltered today than our own generation was back in the 90's. Kids put all their shit online because they are at that stage in life where they are barely learning about a thing called consequences and with no adults in the room to show them a lesson before they learn it the hard way. We all remember as kids running across some pedo online asking our address or asking us to send pictures or some other creepy shit. These…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:45 PM
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OLD is not real dating. Call me old fashioned but I have zero trust in whatever people say on the internet unless they are saying it to me anonymously. If I had to date I would prefer a woman I know in real life and not some internet persona.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:39 PM
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ugh.. When you raise men to be little girls this is what you get. This is the new approach! Look how well it's turned out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:36 PM
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That just makes too much sense, of course it's never gonna work in clown world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:34 PM
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I am intrigued by this new "ugly men are also Chad" that I am starting to see in women's circles. Nobody is talking about hot guys actually. He mentioned men with options. That could be men who are simply rich or well connected and still be butt ugly. Women give certain men a lot of preference over the majority of the male population. And it just so happens that the majority of those men that women give a pass to happen to also be very attractive to them (surprise! surprise!). When those men fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:24 PM
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Lying to get money is literally a SCAM! Why would you even ask if we think getting scammed is ok with us? We don't even like those annoying phone calls about our car's extended warranty that's about to expire! Lying to someone to get sex is not even on the same ballpark as scamming them out of their wages. The reason men lie and manipulate to get sex is because that is the only means by which they can get sex without actually paying for it (which is illegal). The majority of women are not ok wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:49 PM
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It isn't wrong per se but I believe the issue is that the relationship dynamic may become strained due to the fact that a normal friendship with a woman is based on boundaries and privileges with that person and when such a relationship is taken to the level of girlfriend the boundaries and privileges change whereas you've both been so used to the previous arrangement. It's the emotional equivalent of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. It can be done but it requires effort, time, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:16 PM
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Because online profiles and personalities can't be completely fake right? Look, why is it so hard for modern people to just date the people that they already know? Why is everyone trying to date some random stranger that they've only been aware of their existence for the past 30 seconds at the park? When the hell did this become a thing? I admit I am way out of the loop on dating because I am MGTOW but god damned I still have a little bit of common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:45 PM
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Because online profiles and personalities can't be completely fake right? Look, why is it so hard for modern people to just date the people that they already know? Why is everyone trying to date some random stranger that they've only been aware of their existence for the past 30 seconds at the park? When the hell did this become a thing? I admit I am way out of the loop on dating because I am MGTOW but god damned I still have a little bit of common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:45 PM
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Because online profiles and personalities can't be completely fake right? Look, why is it so hard for modern people to just date the people that they already know? Why is everyone trying to date some random stranger that they've only been aware of their existence for the past 30 seconds at the park? When the hell did this become a thing? I admit I am way out of the loop on dating because I am MGTOW but god damned I still have a little bit of common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:45 PM
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Because online profiles and personalities can't be completely fake right? Look, why is it so hard for modern people to just date the people that they already know? Why is everyone trying to date some random stranger that they've only been aware of their existence for the past 30 seconds at the park? When the hell did this become a thing? I admit I am way out of the loop on dating because I am MGTOW but god damned I still have a little bit of common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:45 PM
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Or probably just doesn't give a fuck about social media (internet drama). 90% of the men I know have zero social media presence. Of course we are all in our 30's and remember when being anonymous on the internet was a no-brainer because when we were all kids in the early days of the internet we learned very quickly that pedos, creeps, and weirdos are all over the web. That is why to us it is just common sense to NEVER put your personal shit online. You just don't do it, unless you're an idiot or…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:42 PM
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That only makes sense if you are meeting total strangers on the street. This is creeper territory if you are snooping around a guy who you already know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:30 PM
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Women can be Creeps too. This is why I think OP seems upset, you are dealing with female creeps and it feels just as unnerving and disgusting when women do that sneaky creepy shit on a man. If any woman has any issue with not being able to sneak behind your back and get dirt on you then that bitch is already NOT worth your time and get as fucking far away from her as possible. She is a creep! What else can be said about her? A Sneak, a dishonest and slimy person that goes behind your back, so yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:27 PM
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You are a gentleman and a scholar. - MGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:47 PM
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I just told you that I don't believe in imaginary oppression. Incels fall under that category. Not having sex is literally a non-issue, yet these bozos make it seem as if their life depends on getting laid - once again "muh hurt feewings matter!" I said that I don't believe in any of that shite. Although I am celibate now it doesn't mean I haven't had sex. I am MGTOW because I am disenchanted and severely and permanently disappointed in women, thus I have chosen to never again have anything to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:31 PM
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You are advocating for softness as a cure for men who are already soft. If men are to become more self-sufficient and emotionally resilient they need to experience and learn to cope with ever increasing trials and strife. Men need to learn that sometimes friends will fail you. A man is he who knows when to trust his friends and when to rely only on himself. By asking that men should girl it up with support networks you are actually chipping away at masculine independence, our ability to be resil…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:28 PM
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I don't believe in therapy just as I don't believe in "self-esteem." It's all made up BS on par with the warm and fussy feelings you'd get from religious indoctrination. Unless you're talking about real therapy as in medication, training, surgery, etc. But that thing where you pay someone to listen to you that is actually insulting to me. I would rather hear an honest FU to my face than to be told to go to therapy as if I'm some grown child who needs to learn to process my feewings. That shit ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:53 PM
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I'm glad someone noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:45 PM
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AWALT means All Women Are Like That. Not to be confused with All Women Are That. It's the difference between being godlike and actually being god. There is a certain distinct nature about women that sets them apart and makes them distinguishable from men. Men are interested in figuring out as much about women's nature as we can. What puzzles me is why men have never actually bothered to study women with serious scrutiny before. We know more about the Universe and about the subatomic world than w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:31 PM
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Going one's own way and learning everything about women are not mutually exclusive things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:14 AM
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You still on my nuts about this non-issue? Jesus man if you're this desperate to argue get therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:05 AM
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This is why Musk is rich. Bezos did a Disney and is destroying the lore of Lord of the rings and he does in fact treat his workers like shit so fuck that guy. And you need to quit that idealistic BS and learn how the real world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 08:05 PM
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Well let's see here now... I work with women, I see women all the time: on the street, at work, at the grocery store, my neighbors etc. I have sisters and a mother (both women by the way). I have had female bosses and have female employees. The person I report to is a woman. The people who I train are sometimes women. In short. I am surrounded by women all the time, except in my home and only when the TV is off because they are on the TV, and the internet, as well. So I suppose I am basing my kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 07:29 PM
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I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my nuts sir. Please, all the way off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 07:24 PM
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Sorry I was more busy getting a real education in Biology, Chemistry, Math, Anthropology, Logic, and Critical Literature, Political Science and yes I also took American History as an easy elective.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 07:17 PM
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Why are you so skeptical of the ability of women to consent to things clearly? Because that is not how women behave, it's not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 07:16 PM
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Hiring a guy who knows how to build a house better than I can to build my house is NOT exploiting that man. Where do you get such ridiculous notions? The money I earn is my reward for my dedication, craft, sills and yes also if I am lucky and manage to take advantage of good fortune. Constant growth means profits Yes and No. Profit does NOT automatically mean growth because you may churn a profit this year which is 50% less than last year which means your income actually shrank! It didn't grow. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 07:14 PM
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People are raped. People are harassed. Why would you simplify that down to escalation=harassment? It was feminists who trivialized rape and harassment by calling everything rape and harassment. Do not act like I invented this. It is not men who cry rape because they regret having sex and it is not men who cry harassment every time someone looks at them the wrong way, sits the wrong way, or emotes the wrong way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 08:29 PM
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Again, how many women do you know who give enthusiastic consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 08:27 PM
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No one should earn millions/billions a year and no one should earn it just from trading. And why not? What if I earn the right to those millions and billions through my work, skills, and sacrifice? Who are you to say who truly deserves what? Also, it is not about just working hard, otherwise mules and donkeys would be the richest animals on the planet. It's about working intelligently and most of all efficiently so that you profit from your labor. It does you no good to work 10 hours a day for s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 08:23 PM
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It isn't so much alarmist as it is a loud societal message to men that this society has a passive contempt against all things male and that women reserve the right to execute extreme consequences over any minor slight. It is literally the case that a woman having a bad day can destroy a man's life for no other reason than just because she felt bored and wanted the drama to entertain herself. This isn't alarmism, it's a fact we see played out in news headlines all the time; furthering the message…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 07:52 PM
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I am up to date with the latest Feminist Politik. According to the new trends it is now considered grooming if men behave in any way insistent or assertive with a woman to the point where she changes her mind about him due to his escalating actions. So for example: A woman is kinda iffy about a guy and the guy likes her so he gets a little pushy to win her over this is not considered grooming because he "used power to change her mind" somehow. In short words grooming = manipulation of any concei…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 06:15 PM
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Sorry, bad manners. Sometimes I forget myself. In short what I am saying is that men do not escalate this with women anymore because the act of escalation carries the political meaning that it is harassment, grooming, or some other form of a crime in which a woman is inferred to not be able to give consent. Thus is a woman shows any hesitation, any doubt at all in front of a man then it is the man's obligation is to stop everything then and there, to break it off, and walk away and leave her be.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 06:06 PM
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Capitalism is nothing more than the freedom to engage in unrestricted economic activities. When we employ regulations then it becomes a Regulated Market which is what the vast majority of actual Capitalism operates under. What you call "the top" is nothing more than the one taking the initiative in the market. If you ever go to a flea market the person selling their wares is the person at the top of that specific pyramid. The only difference between one economically active person and another is …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:58 PM
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Here is a wild idea: Capitalism doesn't have a gender. 😮 Capitalism is that one thing which men and women employ and abuse in pretty equal measure. Women are just as commercial, thrifty, and economical minded as men are and just as ruthless and cunning in any market. The only difference I can perceive is that women tend to be more agreeable than men but not by much when it comes to economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:53 PM
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We do in fact live in a Gynocentric Society. Matriarchy is the wrong concept to describe the reality here. OP should have been more clear with his terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:49 PM
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Explain to me how the privilege of staying at home with the kids while the man slaves away for a faceless company that treats him like chattel that will result in an earlier death than his wife translates in your head as the woman getting the short end of this stick. How does this make sense to you? How about we switch? Get your ass to work every day and give me your paycheck, I stay home with the kids and do all the menial work at my leisure and I report to no one. You deal with the stress of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:44 PM
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That’s not a matriarchy dude. Don’t embarrass yourself. A matriarchy isn’t the gender/sex swap of patriarchy. A matriarchy is literally the gender/sex swap of a patriarchy. This is the mots insane thing I have heard on here as of yet. Feminists don’t want to overthrow patriarchy and become the oppressor. We call BS. Do you seriously think we are so stupid as to believe this shit when we see what you are actually doing in the real world? Do not piss on us and tell us it's raining. We want a matri…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:30 PM
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"would I? Yeah, I think I would." But it's still on the man to escalate until it actually does. This is called Harassment and Rape now. A woman cannot be anything less overtly thirsty for the dick in a provable way (documentation or captured on camera), otherwise it is construed as rape because he groomed her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 05:08 PM
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But isn’t part of ‘going your own way’ learning to reject the need forvalidation and satisfaction through female interaction all across theboard, point blank? Yes, it's a practiced skill. Wouldn’t actual enlightenment be to realize that this is a waste of timethat doesn’t align with or remotely further those goals? How so? By learning to detach one's self from female validation we obtain our goal of separating ourselves from women emotionally. Once we achieve such separation we can better quell …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 03:59 PM
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Women simply do not want sex as often or as pressingly as men. This is an observable fact
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:53 PM
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So most Red Pill folks are caricatures it seems. Too many people for it to just be a few people being dorks. You can't possibly know that, especially when the vast majority are silent and just passive readers of Red Pill material. Thought women were easy to figure out, isn't that why you want nothing to do with us? Text on a screen is not that easy to figure out. I do not know anything about you except for what you choose to divulge. I can only guess based on general truths that I know about wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 06:07 PM
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Yes, monks are still very much a thing. One does not have to be a recluse in order to be a monk. MGTOW have a "Monk Mode" phase after all. It is common knowledge among MGTOW that one is truly alone when one is in the middle of a crowd with no kindred spirit. Many men turn MGTOW when they find themselves having experienced the deepest loneliness when they're with a woman. They discover something about themselves when they retreat from the world - while not actually leaving it - and discover a pea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 04:28 PM
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I don't have a partner and I never will. I am MGTOW. The act of sex when it is out of love would be a special thing because it involves full access to her body and mind, there would be trust and an intimacy both physical and emotional with her that I would simply never share with anyone else. There is also the fact that we would both be naked and fully accepting of one another. I would explore her body with empathy and confidence. Learn what she likes and then push her boundaries with her trust …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 04:15 PM
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With love it is more than intimate, it's a connection. A deeper understanding and an empathy for a woman that is completely her own privilege which a man will never share with any other woman. She becomes special and deeply valuable to him. Few men ever reach this state of mind. Even less of us are aware that it exists and so far I am the only one who knows full well what it is that I am rejecting. Many men renounce women for many reasons but most do not fully understand what it is that they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 08:13 AM
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Yes. But text on a screen changes the story a bit. I am not interacting with you in person. I cannot see you, hear you, and I am probably thousands of miles away from you. The perfect situation. I can turn off my computer at any time and walk away. In real life women are harder to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 08:04 AM
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Through a computer screen. Seriously though: Sexual pangs can be as mild as an itch or as intense as a throbbing toothache. Hormones play a role and it only subsides with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:19 AM
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Know thy enemy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:15 AM
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You mean to say I wasted my time. There is no merit in attempting to establish communication when our languages are so different. I did answer you very directly, but our communication is so alien to each other that you saw it as anything but.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:10 AM
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I am usually one of those people. The reason we speak in "riddles" is because mere words often do not convey the meaning that we wish to communicate. Unlike women, men do not have the patience or the aptitude to verbalize our thoughts and feelings in our communication. Our instincts are to act on our feelings and not to speak them out. We are very visually oriented which is why among men we communicate our feelings to each other more with tone, gesture, inflection, and posture than with mere wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:21 PM
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Everything you described is a caricature of us. Only dorks, autists, and awkward high schoolers would spew such things. I am MGTOW, and I am the real deal. Not whatever teenaged little nonsense you've been witnessing here. Whether you poses the qualities that we have discerned from women's common traits - and for which we have named Female Nature - is unknown to me because I don't know you. And even if you were to posses them on account of your sex it is still another matter to determine to whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:30 PM
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I am aware, that is why so often I cut the BS and just say what I truly think point blank or I ask for clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 12:01 AM
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What qualities did I say you lack? I'm not being cute, I scrolled up and I don't see where I said that so I can explain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 11:57 PM
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This is not science fiction. I actually have a chunk of money invested in one of those companies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:54 PM
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I actually practice everything I preach. Anyone who has to use Math to figure out dating probably has bigger problems in life than not finding someone to date. The spectrum comes to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 05:36 PM
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You are human and you have your own priorities. All knowledge of humanity starts with this premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:55 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:53 PM
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I implore you, and anybody else who might be reading, to free yourselfof the yoke of gender expectation and the "us v them" mentality. That is precisely what MGTOW and the Red Pill allegory are about. In a strange way I am actually relieved that you don't seem to understand what I say, and yet every man who has thus far read my words understands perfectly what I am talking about - in private messages. Self-Actualization is NOT self-actualization if one just follows the herd. Men achieve happines…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 07:47 PM
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If a man actually wants to be unnoticeable what do you suggest he should do or avoid doing in order to not catch women's attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 07:36 PM
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I assume you are not a fan of the Mayan facial features? How can you say no to these sexy good looks? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 07:34 PM
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I already described what precipitated my aversion to women: I discovered their nature. I understand women. There is no one cause, there are millions of causes, and these are ongoing. Between then and now the reasons for my aversion to women have not stopped, and will never stop. Every day I find a new plethora of reasons to like them less and less. My only respite is to literally have nothing to do with them. The way they think, the way they look, the way they act, the way they feel, the way the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 06:36 PM
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I am MGTOW because I am weary of women since a very early age and never got over it. I am red pilled from before the movie from which the metaphor is taken from came out. Being Red pilled is just a metaphor which describes being aware of women's true nature and about the nature of reality in general. Being aware of how the real world works in a pragmatic non-idealistic way. There is an old MGTOW aphorism: "You can either love women, or you can understand them; but you cannot do both." That is ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:52 PM
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I sound like a lot of things. If you're ever unsure about my true opinion or feelings about any matter all you have to do is just ask me point blank. I have no reason to lie or hide what I truly think here. By the way, I have never been hurt in this context. This may sound very strange in a place like this but I tend to judge women by the person who is in front of me and not by the color of her background. People change over time so the woman I knew years ago may not be the same woman I know now…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:15 PM
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About a quarter of men here genuinely have no clue what the Red Pill actually is and have sort of made up their own disjointed definition or meaning out of it. I have caught plenty of idiots who think Red Pill = Right Wing. I have also caught many who think being Red Pilled is some kind of political BS, or an ideology, or some kind of quasi-cult or are actively trying to turn it into one. And then there are the hucksters (the Pickup Artists) who believe the Red Pill is a marketing gimmick from w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:03 PM
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Is this that "unbridled and unrestrained" you were talking about? Yes. That's a lot of emotions from someone who claims to follow stoicism. Stoic does not mean emotionless. It means being in control of one's emotions. When you grow up you do not just stop feeling angry, sad, happy, elated, thrilled, fear, hope, despair, or upset. Growing up means you learn how to cope, deal with, and control yourself in the midst of all these emotions. You control yourself so that you can be a better functioning…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:26 AM
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I am disenchanted with women because of the actions of women themselves. No man can convince another man to abandon women. This is the first thing you learn if you ever attempt to proselytize any Red Pill knowledge. Men will tell other men to fuck off if they attempt to convince him to forsake relationships with women. Men need to experience women for themselves. The Red Pill is a metaphor for when men wake up and see women as they truly are, also, The Red Pill is not something that can be preac…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:14 AM
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There was a time when I had a strangely deep affection for women in general, sometimes I still feel it. And then those feelings are assaulted by women's own actions against men all across the board like piranhas picking at the carcass of my long dead affections. It is not easy to articulate these sorts of feelings and thoughts which is why I use a lot of metaphor. Most men do not bother articulating these feelings at all which is why we appear cold. And we don't need to anyway because we usually…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 12:15 AM
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the reason I delete is because I don't wanna get ad hominem that too over my stance on "women A wise choice. But notice I never implied any intent in your part. All I said is that the "optics" will looks disfavorable in my part. I have been doing this fort so long that the intentions of the person I am talking to no longer matter. You could be either on my side, against me, or completely neutral. The court of public opinion is very fickle and opinionated. Is is the crowd whose intentions I tend …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 12:11 AM
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PUAs were NEVER ok. We have been deridng them as Weasels in Disguise since the very beginning. We do not hate them because they "exploit women." We hate them because they are hucksters exploiting other men! They are con artists selling their bullshit to unsuspecting simps and then attempt to bullshitting the rest of us into buying into their gynocentric garbage using the same Macho Card that feminists use. They spin the narrative that "you're not a real man unless you're dripping in bitches" and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:44 PM
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In that case my answer is no. I have never fallen for a woman for the same reason I have never fallen for a con-artist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:36 PM
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Adulting is hard. That is why everyone wants to be a damned child these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:34 PM
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A specific instance of me relaxing a bit and then discovering that I have to keep my guard up is just how 5 minutes before coming to answer this very question I got done reading this article: https://au.reachout.com/articles/5-seemingly-harmless-things-that-are-actually-sexist It literally says that even while men are harmless we are still to be vilified. Prompting women to attach a malevolent intention unto everything we do thus motivating them to treat all men as irredeemable beasts who deserv…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:25 PM
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If you mean by a specific person in a very specific relationship with said person then my answer is no. That, however, doesn't mean my heart wasn't broken. And I mean truly broken. Not that Megan Fox/Henry Cavill spiel you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:17 PM
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If I see a grown ass man crying I will conclude one of two things: He is immature or he is being fake. Children cry, and children are instinctively manipulative, they are also very weak and immature both physically and emotionally which is why a grown man crying is a supreme sign of weakness. It is a failure to grow up. It also depends a lot on the reason why he is crying. Did his mother just pass away? Did he just lose a child? Did he just endure months of wartime combat and trauma that have al…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 06:55 PM
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To answer your question on how I became MGTOW: In short words I became fed up with women very early in life. Not through any one event or cause; but by thousands of little reasons. My intimate interest in women died in a sort of death by a thousand needles so to speak. I also understand women on a deeper level than most men. The aphorism holds true: "You can either love women, or you can understand them; but you cannot do both." Every time I find myself relaxing in my conviction, or growing any …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 06:40 PM
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My desire for women is the reason I became stoic rather than neurotic. I had the strength of will and enough self reflection to come to a stoic conclusion before I even knew what stoicism was. I gave up on women for very complicated reasons that span my entire childhood and most of my adulthood. But you have to admit that your statement that “a stoic man does not care for women” is not a universal truth, I never said that it was. I am speaking within the context of this discussion. Keep it in co…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 08:26 PM
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Most stoic guys I know definitely know how to have fun and are capable of enjoying it to a much higher degree than the average jock. A stoic is one who takes full advantage of any opportunity to be happy because he is aware that life is generally shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 08:20 PM
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Stoics are often sentimentalists, that's why they are stoic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 08:17 PM
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That is precisely what feminists are doing, they are upfront about it and don't bother hiding the fact that they are at war with facts, à la 1984 style. They have even sloganized it as "Herstory" to further undermine history with this cheap play on words which serve to push their sexist anti-masculine narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 07:56 PM
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I became aware of this when I am fully focused on some task and if a woman is nearby - usually a co-worker - they sometimes zone out while watching me, almost daydreaming like they are on some ASMR trip. It happens most if they bring me a problem and I am focused on solving it looking through my notes or using the computer. Even if they engage in what I'm doing I notice they get very relaxed even if they seemed agitated when they walked into my office.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:04 PM
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I get the feeling you don't know what an actual stoic is, this is why I hate those bozos at TRP spewing so much BS and have people all confused. There shouldn't be any ambiguity between a stoic and a sociopath for you to even confuse them. Being stoic does not mean being non-affectionate, it means being detached from the object of his affection and resigned to it's loss while also being able to fully enjoy it if and when he ever possesses it. Be it a career or a woman. If a stoic is with a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:59 PM
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I noticed that pattern, that's why I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:32 PM
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I could say that, but then I would be lying. What makes you think I don't have a deep understanding of history, or of women for that matter? And what makes you assume I hate women when all I do is trumpet about how imperative it is for men to resign from having any feelings at all towards women? Hate included.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:54 PM
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That's pretty extreme. Why would you rather die than be involved with a Stoic man?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:47 PM
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I'm not talking about a dichotomy I am talking about a spectrum
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:46 PM
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But those kind of women usually persist even when a man makes it very clear he is not interested. My guess is that such women are either insane or their ego won't let them take a rejection, at which point I don't think they care about the man at all, it has become some sick vendetta for bruising her ego the way some men react like idiots when women reject them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:39 PM
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It is a subset to being Stoic under this given context, yes. Stoic practice itself has no tenet that says we should walk away from relationships. It does however encourage the tapering of appetites including the longing for a woman in a man's life. If it is unfavorable for a man to seek female companionship then it is wise to detach one's self from such a desire, to renounce it and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:30 PM
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A man who is both would be a man who is Hot/Cold, which is the bane of women's relationships to men, or so we're told.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:26 PM
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I read these things at my leisure time. Feel free to share. I actually read every single response.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:22 PM
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To clarify, I am asking: Controlled interest vs Uncontrolled interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:17 PM
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Says those of us who practice the craft within the context of attraction to the opposite sex. Let me clarify: Stoicism in general may or may not apply to one's desire for a mate. But in this context as applied to relationships within this conversation - and in this subreddit - with the opposite sex it involves a resignation that sex and a detachment from them. In the case of men it means resigning from one's attachment or desire for women, to give them up if you will. Renounce and walk away. Or …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:11 PM
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You unwittingly answered my question in the way in which I was intending to ask it. You answered by stating that you'd prefer a guy that falls in the middle but who leans a bit stoic, then you elaborated on traits from the other extreme that you'd also enjoy. You also expanded on my questions with more of your own which I find insightful and smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:06 PM
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It doesn't take much to actually charm a guy. If he shows you attention and you reciprocate it that is pretty much it. Any time women don't outright say no to a man is pretty much seen as an invitation for him to proceed if he is attempting to engage. But what I was referring to was when a man is neutral and not really giving you any specific attention but you have a crush on him so you take it upon yourself to get noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:53 PM
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True stoics can speak of their most inner emotional complexities over casual conversation because they have learned to both accept and detach themselves from such turmoil. I can speak of my feelings and emotions and thoughts as if I were speaking about my arm, my eyes, or my leg. It doesn't take a psychotic break from self awareness in order to speak of one's feelings the way one would speak about their hand when analyzing it in from of him in plain view of the other person. I don't hide my hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:48 PM
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What were the specific flaws that broke the deal with each of them for you? And what would you have liked to have had differently in order to have made it better for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:34 PM
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If he's into that why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:26 PM
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People are complicatedrate. Most men will not approach or initiate contact or a relationship with such women. But if a man is bold, confident, or just crazy enough to try his luck with such a woman and by some miracle gets her attention he will either grow weary of the effort required to sustain it or if he sees that it is possible for her loyalty to remain with him he will certainly not let her go. People are complciated
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:36 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but do you enjoy watching a man's energy when he is focusing on other things for which he may have that oblivious demeanor? For example, he is trying to build a porch and you can see the gears turning in his head lost in his own thoughts trying to troubleshoot or problem solve some dilemma?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:19 PM
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I intentionally made my question unpredictable. And I am not asking the usual A or B question. I am asking in which direction and to what extreme would an average woman lean towards. So far about 75% of replies are women who say they like a little from column A and a little from column B with a sprinkle of their own personal preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:55 PM
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I also mentioned the spectrum that exists between them. Where on that spectrum would most women fall is what I wonder. I do not expect many women to crowd the extremes, I expect most women are somewhere between the middle and the first guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:52 PM
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Yes indeed it's fun. It's what dancing is all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:12 PM
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Resistance to cues/bids is as much a turn off as unchecked eagerness." Sometimes women have an ego that doesn't let them walk away and they will double down on their attempts. It's part of the reason why I asked. I am very unambiguously not interested and yet so often a woman flirts or shows very obvious interest despite the fact that I may be either cold or just a straight up dick to give her a hint.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:10 PM
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And? Of course men will want to engage in long term relationships with the best women that they can find. Why would a man ever want to let go of a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:49 PM
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Stoic Game? That a very cringy idea. This is why I despise Pickup Artists. But anyway... Stoicism should not be a means by which losers attempt to woo women. We are Stoic because there is wisdom in resignation. A truly stoic man does not care for women. That is why using it as a "game" to lure women is so cringy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:47 PM
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I understood the study perfectly well; and my question is a follow up which is meant to build on the implication of the research from a behavioral perspective and not as a direct question within the confines of the parameters of the study. Faces are understood to convey personalities and personalities are just organized and set behaviors. Women are very rarely just attracted to looks, they tend to use the information that looks convey in order to get a better puncture of the rest of the person a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:41 PM
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You don't know how many women fail to understand that the majority of men show their affection precisely through their actions rather than grand gestures or words. If a man loves you he will show it with his effort towards you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:38 PM
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I was talking about restraint and discipline. A guy can still show you interest but not in an unbridled and unrestrained way where he spills his guts at your slightest hint.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:22 PM
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I imagine that would get exhausting after a while if you constantly have to pull his strings to get him to act right. Pinocchio isn't a real boy yet it seems. I ask because I am not a people pleaser, not by a long shot, I am MGTOW in fact and everything about me says that short of actually saying it. And yet, incidents of women attempting their wiles on me or more subtly seeking my attention or trying to get me to notice them has not stopped. My guess is that a lot of women believe being flirty …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:18 PM
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There used to be a strong incentive among men to police and check other men's nonsense towards women, particularly when it came to grave situations like rape, harassment, or even a casual discourtesy to an innocent woman on the street. Wolf whistling, cat calling, and all other boorish behavior which visibly upset any woman who wasn't inviting such attention was at one point met with derision and scorn by other men. That was the era of chivalry, which has gone the way of the Jurassic era. Chival…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:30 PM
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We already do that even when we have zero interest in dating. Simps are just repulsive on so many levels aside from the disgusting spectacle they make of themselves when fawning to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:04 PM
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Men are most attracted to the most attractive women. The most attractive women have the greatest opportunity of attracting other men. Women can attract other men have a higher opportunity to cheat. Women's facial attractiveness is what men are attracted to. We do not look at a pretty girl and say to ourselves "Geez, she sure does have the facial features that predict infidelity!" That is stupid. Men are aware that attractive women will attract other men and very often it's the case that men will…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:27 PM
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First of all the patriarchy is a buzzword that solicits a prejudiced way of thinking in which you filter everything through politically tinted lenses. If you believe in this patriarchy it is the same as believing in a superstition. You begin to see everything as somehow being connected to this mysterious "patriarchy." You are able to explain away shortcomings, coincidences, struggles, failured, and all manner of personal inconvenience by attributing it to this Patriarchy myth not unlike the way …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:15 PM
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We are not white and we are not conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:49 AM
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Our King Arnold never did any roids. You speak blasphemy sir!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:58 PM
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Back in the 80's and 90's there were only 3 specimens of Masculinity: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Silvester Stallone and Jean-Claude Van Damme. Today: Dwayne Johnson, Chris Hemsworth, Dave Bautista, Tom Hardy, Terry Crews, Henry Cavill plus a bunch more I can't think of right now. They are basically the norm now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:56 PM
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All the women I know who follow Astrology know that it's all BS, but they use it as a weird way to guide themselves and sort of feel like there is a plan for the day or they use it as a diversion no differently than following the latest gossip. Women are strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:31 PM
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In that case it would only apply to men who indeed hold opinions about all women when in fact their opinion is just based on that 30% that you mentioned. Such an opinion would be the definition of a prejudiced bias. But those of us who have a more broad and more realistic opinion of all women based on a very wide variety of data and experience don't fit into your example though. My personal opinions of women are based on every kind of women not just the single ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:28 PM
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Your RAF Engineers story has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of what you said and has no parallels at all with dating or with anything of what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:20 PM
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What are you even saying here? What the hell is Mating Ecology?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:15 PM
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This explains why every girl I have ever crushed on was a nerdy little egghead who kept to herself and didn't dress to impress.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:15 PM
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Looking down on someone and not trusting them are not the same thing. For example, many people keep snakes, spiders, and scorpions as pets, they do not trust these animals, but that doesn't mean that they look down on them otherwise why would they have them as pets? If some nobody expressing a dumb opinion in reddit is enough to lower your opinion of men then you can imagine what impact it has when it is a boy growing up in a pervasive woke/feminist culture that expresses the same insidious opin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 10:48 PM
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We do not live in a male dominated society but I see your point: we both evolved this way. Men have always been the general workhorse of the species while women evolved to best exploit the surplus resources that men generally provided as barter for women's affections. In the past, this arrangement was a win win. Men got to bang and women got resources. This is the origin of why all relationships are transactional. It is why women still instinctively prefer men with money and why men still instin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 06:08 PM
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What is wrong with generalization when one is speaking about a general topic about a general group?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:41 AM
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Everybody had insecurities, anxieties and internal struggles. Yeah, no shit. That's what I said. Why don’t you share with the class the right way to experience emotions? Because that is not my position, that's some bullshit that YOU made up. I am not going to defend an argument that doesn't belong to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:49 PM
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I assume intelligent people will assume on their own accord that when I speak about men I am not literally speaking about ALL - each and every single man - without exception. People speaking in general terms will use general words. I was speaking generally, not absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:47 PM
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lol so why did you say Noooooo?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:42 PM
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Cynical? Hell yes. Bullshit? Explain...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:25 PM
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It's not messed up it's actually normal. Most women say they feel most femininee when a man casts that aura of affection and subtle pride in having her in his arm. It makes a woman feel desired, wanted, and valuable in a very focused and personal way. It's not like when a woman is desired by a 100 men; this is one man who isn't desiring her from afar, but a man who is still desiring her from within because he knows her - the real her - and still desires her very personally and not just as a pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 07:18 PM
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The problem is that boys are sold on the idea that the meaning of life = women. The moment men learn that kicking their woman addiction - the way those high schoolers in your example kick their pill addiction - will free their minds to immense possibilities in life you mark my words we will see a mass sexual revolution unprecedented in all of our species's history. A world where men don't think with their dick? Utterly Revolutionary! A world where men are not addicted to women and do not feel an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:59 PM
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No Relationship = No Problems. You're damned right boi. 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:42 PM
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Your descuription sounds kinda bizarre. You say that they resent you because you earn more money than they do but then you start resenting them for wanting to wear the pants? And then you say that money talks louder than day do, are you implying or asserting that you wear the pants and you resent the power struggle involved here? Because it kinda seems like you are really looking for a man who plays second fiddle to you being in charge of everything and you resent assertive men who wish to take …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:40 PM
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In a public setting how would you display loyalty, love, and affection for your man is he is outwardly proud of you and basically showing you off as the jewel of his crown? Women tend to be subtle so I wonder in what subtle ways would you be broadcasting your own pride and loyalty towards your man?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:53 PM
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Simping by it' very definition conveys no advantage to a man. If you claim to be simping because it gives you an advantage with women then you're not simping at all, you're playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:49 PM
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I know what I wrote... And explain to me how in the fuck do I come off as some sort of tough guy alpha while I was bashing tough guy Alphas by calling them out on their Small Dick Energy? Having emotional reactions to things (like the emotional reaction I am having to your test of my patience right now) does not make you less of a man and I never even hinted at such a thing! You are just completely making shit up now and fishing for an argument because my words trigger the shit out of your own i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 05:00 PM
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I never mentioned beards but ok... 90% of men have beards these days and 90% of those guys with beards aren't actually insecure about their faces, they are just lazy. How can you tell the difference between lazy and insecure? A well kept beard on a weak chin is insecure. An unkempt beard on either a strong jaw or a weak chin is just a dude who is lazy and can't be bothered to groom. I myself often sport groomed stubble - sometimes a beard - just because I don't feel like shaving but I do trim my…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 04:14 PM
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that shit was many words used to basically show utter contempt for any man who dares to have or express emotional weakness. That is bullshit and you know it. It's actually comical how I spoke all that jazz about insecurity and here you are immediately triggered by it and overreacting to it by reading into it some bullshit that I never actually said! And if you claim that I did so then show us! If you claim I am insinuating something then by all means expose it! But claiming that "in as many word…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 03:27 PM
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The bullshit you just said has nothing to do with what I said. So YOU fuck outta here with that drama-fishing BS bruh. If you have a real argument, protest, or even a critique you come back with that instead of this nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 10:35 PM
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Women do not like men with insecurities for the same reason men do not like other men with insecurities: They are extremely obnoxious and untrustworthy cretins. Nobody likes: Short Man Syndrome Small Dick Energy (those loud motherfuckers on Bikes or those who speed across parking lots and do all manner of loud shit to call attention to themselves - notice how women are not impressed and they are all sausage fests) SoyFace. The universal symbol of insecure male submission. From the Article: "In p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:12 PM
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As a matter of fact I have, that is how I know that videos are sources because when I was in college YouTube wasn't a thing yet but I could still use video documentaries from the library as sources. For one particular thesis paper I used an old video recording of Jane Goodall as a source to argue my point. Here is how to cite Videos including YouTube videos: https://www.bibliography.com/how-to/how-to-cite-a-video/#Cite%20Video%20MLA
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:18 PM
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You are asking a loaded question. You are implying that The Red Pill is what is responsible for losing trust in women when in fact it is the loss of trust which precipitates the mental event that we call The Red Pill. You have it completely backwards. Men lose trust in women first; and then they take the Red Pill after trust has been lost. What you should be asking is why are so many millions of men losing trust in women? Why did men ever believe they could trust women in the first place? What d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:11 AM
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When these affect my personal life and my best interests, hell yes! Besides, I do not actually have political beliefs. I despise politics and I think it is all bullshit. But I am not shy about using politics or any other gimmick towards my own ends. I also do not believe in shame. That was lesson #1 from my childhood with women. The feeling of shame is the primary way in which women manipulate men. Therefore, I have stopped believing in it. There is no shame in letting a woman influence my polit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:38 PM
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That doesn't answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:32 PM
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You said that YouTube videos are not sources. All I am saying is that it depends on the video. Some YouTube videos are in fact sources, some are research itself, some are documentaries, some are opinion pieces while others are just debates. But the fact of the matter is that source means "origin of something." So a YouTube video can in fact be a source. Now whether or not it's a reliable one, again, depends entirely on the video. It is foolish to dismiss a source just because it's a youtube vide…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:31 PM
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If you believe in true equality why not be an Egalitarian? Feminism is not about equality anymore than Masculism is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:25 PM
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I am indifferent to women. I give women the courtesy of my absence in their lives. Is it really too much to expect the same from women in return? I am MGTOW, it is my mission in life to leave women alone and yet I cannot escape women's presence or influence which is why men like me are forced to be political and active. It is not enough to be hermits and live our own lives because women are constantly affecting some part of it, therefore it is a task of mine to work towards minimizing women's in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:23 PM
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And what makes you assume a YouTube video is just opinions and not an actual documented source? You know YouTube has actual professionals on it right? Veritasium for example. And then there is PBS Space Time which is an actual academic channel, the host has an actual Ph.D on the subject matter and gives sources when referencing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:41 PM
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Thank you I believe I shall. 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:30 PM
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Not bitter, I would say: "invested in the cause." As I said, a month ago I gave no fucks about this topic. And do not BS me. You only care about females. You only care about your own tribe, admit it! There is no shame in it. You do not believe men are human beings unless they subscribe to your tribal ideology and even then they are just tools to further your cause, you don't actually see them as real people equal in dignity to yourself. That is why you cannot acknowledge the rights of men in thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:29 PM
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Watch me as I change their minds with discussions such as this. When men find out you do not give a flying fuck abut them and that you only see them as tools for your own personal convenience, they will change their tune just as I changed mine when I was shown how duplicitous women are. Those men are blissfully unaware of how badly they are getting fucked. All they have to do is look at who you truly are and what you truly think of them. This is my responsibility though. It is my job to expose w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:54 PM
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Bodily autonomy like the right to save my own life rather than comply to the cultural pressures of "women first?" Like I said, if the Titanic were to sink today you are going to have to fight me for that lifeboat. No more of this bullshit "women first" business. You do not deserve more rights and privileges over men, especially the right to life. So, again, you will have to fight me for that lifeboat and you will have to outrun me on the way to exist when the building is on fire. This is the phi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:45 PM
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Yes: Men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:38 PM
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A mere means to an end dear, bleeding hearts never won any wars. Feminism taught me when I was a child that empathy for the enemy is always a mistake. It is foolish to show mercy towards those who have none for you. I learned that even in my childhood, women have no actual sympathy for men. This is why in this entire discussion you have never even once acknowledged the other side. That is the same sort of ruthlessness I must show your side. I cannot afford to feel any sympathy for women, or else…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:35 PM
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Spoken like a true little feminist soldier. 😎 At least I can respect that you're not even hiding your true intentions. You keep doing what you have to do for your side and I will continue to do what I have to for mine. It's not called a gender war for no reason. But there is a tactical mistake here General. Suppose my side achieves the right for men to opt out of fatherhood independently of feminists consent. That will mean abortion remains illegal and now you have alienated all men against your…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:25 PM
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Abortion is illegal and I will see to it that it stays that way and that it becomes illegal in other states until men are given the same rights to opt out of fatherhood just as women can opt out of motherhood. No woman shall force a man to be a father against his will. You want the right to abortion, give men the same right. Once you do that you will see how miraculously we will all go to your side in droves. This is not hard! This is how we are exposing feminists and "progressives" as the anti-…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:17 PM
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I never said I am pro-life. I said I am anti-Abortion. This is a political matter to me, not a religious or even a ethical one. I am using the entire issue as leverage to push for men's own rights by denying women theirs if they think they can have more rights and privileges over men. A month ago I literally did not care at all about this issue, but when I found out that feminists who want women to have the right to have an abortion also support legislation that would penalize men for the same e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:12 PM
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Um, go for what? You lost me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:05 PM

If anything, it makes me look forward to your suffering even more. You don't see the irony there? That is precisely why I am anti-Abortion. Why the fuck should you be protected against being forced to be a parent against your will when you believe I am not entitled to that same right? Why the fuck should I consent to give you a right that you believe I shouldn't have? If anything it makes me look forward to your suffering even more - as you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:58 PM
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The effort has to be worth the prize. Men: ask yourselves - What am I shooting for? Are you doing it all just to get some pussy? Or are you doing it all just to get a better life for yourself with or without the pussy? The better life is one in which you would still be well off without pussy. Because if you need a woman in your life in order to be happy then you've already failed at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:55 PM

Old and original Red Piller here. Let men give all you younger whippersnappers the same advice we taught ourselves when we were in our early 20's: DO NOT TRUST ANYONE WHO IS TRYING TO SELL YOU SOMETHING! Whether it's a greasy car salesmen or some fucking Pickup Artists trying to sell you "game." There is a huge benefit in learning from your elders. It is bad advice to learn from your own mistakes because each man making his own mistakes - rather than learning from the errors of his elders - mean…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:51 PM

So does that mean you are going to convince progressives to give men the legal right to opt out of fatherhood so that we can then grant women abortion rights? Or does that mean you are doubling down on your women-first agenda?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:34 PM

Oh I know... I am already active in politics as an independent. I despise both Republicans and Democrats, let me make that clear right now, I fucking despise both the Right and the Left; but in my own best interest I will research and vote for the one who offers me the better deal in every election and once elected I will continue to monitor them to make sure they are not double crossing me or doing any BS that goes against my interests. The moment they step out of line I have my own resources t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:24 PM

men domnate both the political and legal spheres. That is the feminist narrative. So why aren't the men in power doing anything for you? Who says they're not? Besides, their job is to stay the fuck out of my way in my personal pursuit of life, liberty, and fulfillment. It is not their job to have power over me like a parent, but rather, to use the limited power I bestow on then through my vote so that they vouch for my best interests. Any failure to do that and I can remove their ass from office…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:20 PM

The political goal of creating "Men's Rights Groups" is to further dis-empower men (morally and intellectually) by effectively convincing them that they are on the same victim status as women. The idea is to convince men that they are just as frail and just as helpless as women and children and thus need the power of a political tribe - or a special interest group - to vouch for their individual rights and freedoms the way a parent vouches for a failing child in school. As a man we instinctively…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:55 PM

Did the earliest feminists wait for men to validate them? No. As a matter of fact they did. Feminists are the only political group in history that wormed it's way into Law and Power without actually fighting and they did so literally because they nagged, manipulated, ego-boosted, blackmailed, etc the Men in power at the time who then consented to their bullshit. Feminists are master manipulators, I will give them that. Even ethnic minorities had to wage a few physical battles to get the same rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:42 PM
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You got to be prepared to deal with some drama. This one right here has been the perpetual deal breaker for me and the #1 reason I became MGTOW in the first place when I was still a teenager. Some guys are prepared to deal with the drama that comes with dealing with women, others are just too stupid and horny to think straight and then deal with the drama as an unpleasant consequence of their weakens. Others prefer to tough it out and not engage with women at all just for the sake of going home …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:38 PM

I hope men divest in droves That phenomena is called MGTOW 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:24 PM

Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:17 PM

The idea is to get women to stop their make-believe oppression and to tap other men on the shoulder to let them know of women's mass deception through the manipulation of optics and narratives. Men already fight for their own freedoms, rights, and liberties - while women ride on the coat tails of man's progress. The issue here is women's mass invalidation and even denial of man's efforts; and women manipulating mass sentiment to paint a world in where all women are perpetual victims and all men …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:14 PM

Except that fucking is not a benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:42 PM
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The sense of honor I am taling about is the impersonal sense of duty and fraternal commitment towards one's cause, one's people, or towards a brother. Codes of Honor are endemic to men from one's sense of patriotism and allegiance towards one's country down to one's sense of allegiance towards a street or prison gang. Women do not have anything in their psyche that even comes close to this peculiar male habit. The most a woman would ever show any semblance of impersonal loyalty towards would be …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 11:22 PM
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Briffault's law does not apply to male friendships where the sense of Duty, Fraternity, and Honor applies. This is what sets men apart from women most of all. But where Briffault's law does apply to male friendships we usually call those "Machiavellian" relationships, or alliances, such as those between tyrants or business partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 11:06 PM
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All relationships are transactional. Friendships are relationships. Briffault's Law applies to all interactions not just those between romantic partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 08:41 PM
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It doesn't account for anything, it was written in 1927. And the decimal system was written in 3100 B.C. what is your point? Where men derive no benefit from associating with a woman, no such association will take place. This is also normal. Both men and women choose. Sex is not a benefit, it's an intangible which actually costs the man tangible resources such as money, time, and effort. What possible benefit does a man actually get from a woman? A man's biological craving towards procreation (s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:54 PM
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You are making the severe mistake of assuming that women have a sense of Honor the way men do. And if you expect women to take accountability for their newfound power you will be just as severely disappointing because they will sooner tolerate a Dictator in their life than own up their responsibilities. Society should be held accountable for all the lies and just tell men (average men at least) to expect nothing but toil to be there only salvation Hi! Hello. MGTOW here: That is literally why we …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 07:22 PM
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Or maybe women are just manipulative as fuck and secure their attachments to men through his ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:52 PM
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A woman who earns more than a man means the man has no grounds by which to secure his attachment/relationship to her therefore he will be eternally vigilant against the army of better men out there whom he will have to be weary of for the rest of his time. Men absolutely hate a perpetual uphill battle and will forever be suspicious as to why exactly she is sticking with him. This level of insecurity is intolerable and a man will figure out a way to sabotage the relationship to break lose and fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:51 PM
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Do not act dumb, act interested. The reason acting dumb works is because men know a woman isn't really dumb but is just putting on a show of helplessness for his benefit. It is the gesture that men take a cue, not her actual intelligence. It's like flirting with extra steps. Also, not every man welcomes this because acting dumb can be seen as manipulative and annoying by a lot of men. When men say they like looking but not talking to women is because they are fed up with most women's insipid and…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:47 PM
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Your entire argument is that "Exceptions exist." Which is not an argument at all. Briffault's Law already accounts for the outliers and what the law is essentially stating is that women determining the conditions of the family is the norm and not the exception. Where women derive no benefit from associating with a man, no such association will take place. This is normal. And our species is only slightly dimorphic? That slight dimorphism in action. It's also because of the slight dimorphism why m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 03:36 PM
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I don't think it would make a difference to me. The benefit of ghosting is that it's zero drama. If I just don't hear from her in a few days I can just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:02 PM
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If I were looking for a woman I suppose I'd be looking for one whom I could become family with. That she would be my family and have that kind of a strong bond with. Body type: I like petite. Small framed NOT anorexic. Personality Type: Demure, girlish, feminine, happy, passive. Skills: Intelligence, not an NPC, thinks for herself. The biggest thing that attracts me to women is innocence and naivete, what I mean by this is women who are not subscribed to any bullshit ideology and aren't guilty o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:21 PM
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Neither is meth and yet how many addicts would step over their own mother to get it? Sex is a craving, not an "importance."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:18 PM
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I do not subscribe to the Alphabet Soup Brigade: LGBTQLMNOPZ36PS5=&+++ They are part of the Woke Bullshit that I am against. Normal gay people are not all part of that pseudo-political group. As for 9/11 I only believe the evidence and the evidence fails to give us the whole picture. There are missing pieces and until we can see the whole picture I am not going to believe one conspiracy over another. That's how science works my man: EVIDENCE! and REASON. And withholding of conclusions until all …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 05:27 PM
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Ditto 🏠 🍳 (Homeskillet) [edit]: you get the last word my man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 04:59 PM
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I might like it too much and not want to give it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 03:39 PM
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What's wrong? I contrast Chick-Flicks with Bro-Flicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:33 AM
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Then fall back on the actual evidence that I presented before, cheesecake.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:17 AM
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You are literally the 2nd dude that I know of (besides myself) who has ever watched that show.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:15 AM
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Telling you that you haven't met your burden of proof in no way means I am defending something else. To directly answer your question: I am neither in favor of not against Homosexuals. I am indifferent to them, they simply do not bother me. Besides, they play good music. Mr. Kitty & VNV Nation, both artists are gay. And just for shits and giggles, whatever this is. I told you: I am Scientifically Literate. And I do not subscribe to a conspiracy theory mindset. Scientists believe in the evidence …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:13 AM
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I kid you not: the last time I heard that line was back in college when these dudes were trying to get me to try LSD... lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:12 AM
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People are just currently fed up with the Woke Hollywood Bullshit. People have no taste for dystopias because many people in real life are actually living in one. People are in the mood for an actual Utopia, which is why there was so much potential for Star Trek and the good old feel-good vibes of Star Wars and we all know how the Woke Assholes at Hollywood completely fucked that up so badly that the Juggernaut Disney itself has been flirting with Bankruptcy for the last 2 years now and has been…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 07:10 AM
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I said I hear them talking about it once in a while in passing, not as if they grab me by the elbow and walk me into the cafeteria "hey let me tell you about this show." I know the name because I was the one who took the initiative to ask them "What 'cha talkin' about?" By the way, I thought Dick Flicks was just another name for Porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 06:58 AM
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Yes I looked it up and found nothing of substance. I am scientifically literate and I can tell the difference between actual reliable research that follows the scientific method and opinionated political pieces that massage the facts to fit an agenda. I believe that the reason men and women's relations are in the fritz is due to a combination of a Feminist agenda, and a complex circumstances that are beyond their control as well as our own finger in the soup. Exactly who is "they" who want more …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:32 PM
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If other men can't be bothered then there is a pretty good chance it's not for me either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 11:01 PM
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As a man I watch Lucifer, Ru Paul's Drag Race, Jeffrey Star (On You Tube), hell I even used to watch Buffy. So, "as a man" is a non-issue for me. It's simply the case that not enough people are talking about it, publicity for it is very scarce or non-existent, no men are watching it therefore word of mouth is non-existent among men and the women watching it are not relaying it to the men at all. Plus I am getting a strange vibe that there is probably a very good reason why guys are oblivious to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:59 PM
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I've been in discussions where we also enthusiastically discuss 1984 and Brave New World and none of us has any subconscious attraction towards Big Brother's sexy mustache. Sometimes it's just fun to immerse ourselves in a fucked up fantasy, it in no way means we actually want that shit to happen! This is why we enjoy horror and sci-fi genres.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:44 PM
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What makes it a chick flick is that it is only women who ever talk about it. This post is the first time I have ever heard a man bring it up both online and in person. Men are simply just not not talking about this series. I only know it exists because women are talking about it and only in passing, it's not as if they are even attempting to share it with men. That is what i would say is the definition of a chick flick. It's where only chicks are into it and men couldn't care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 09:03 PM
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Because they are idiots. That is why the other half of the manosphere think that TradCucks are clowns.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:58 PM
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I didn't know it was a book. All I know is that it's some kind of Netflix series and only because some of my female coworkers sometimes talk about it during lunch. That is literally all I know about it. It sounds too chick-flick-ish for my taste. And we do learn about the classics. In high school I read 1984, Brave New World, The Odyssey, Moby Dick, Hamlet, Raisin in the Sun, Of Mice and Men, The Great Gatsby, Dante's Inferno, The Canterbury Tales, among a myriad of other short stories, poems, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:53 PM
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my ears are burning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:47 PM
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Why aren't you out there with the girlfriends chasing all the cute guys in the meadow instead of this dank and depressing internet corner lending an ear to the opinions of the edgelords?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:45 PM
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Hmmm I agree, women shouldn't be allowed to choose partners but here's the problem. I really don't give a care about enforcing it. Seriously. How are you gonna enforce this? If I see a woman making a very stupid choice when picking a partner I am not going to stop her lol. Why should I? It's not my job and there is zero benefit to me personally to be going around policing women's dating behavior. SO make it into a law and then have the paid professionals enforce it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:36 PM
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It would help immensely if you started off by explaining what The Handmaid's Tale is. I'm pretty sure 95% of the male population has no clue what it is; and the most they know about it is that it's some kind of chick-flick series that all their co-workers sometimes talk about during lunch break. Other than that, we got no idea what you're talking about buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:31 PM
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I gotta say, this idea that a parasite is what causes 'the gay' just sounds too Alex Jonesy for me. Even if for argument's sake being gay adds no benefit to the species they are not causing any detriment either because - if Natural Selection has anything to say here - it is that if anything is detrimental to the survival of any species, it is either weeded out very quickly, or the species itself gets taken out. I looked it up and there is no evidence that the parasite you mentioned has anything …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:17 PM
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I am in my 30's broham. 23yo is still a child to me, but even so: How long can you bank on a passing phase in a girl's life? Girls eventually grow up. I have seen my sister grow into and then grow out of this "cute boy" phase. 5 years ago she swore to marry a cute puppy dog looking K-pop boy with a feminine face. Today she feels zero attraction to them but still thinks they are just "cute" (for a little while) and instead has her eye set on very masculine looking stoic faced men with broad chest…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:17 PM
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Perhaps not. But teaching men how to let go of women entirely and go their own way sure might. Self improvement is a sham if it is treated as a means towards obtaining pussy, therefore when the pussy reward isn't forthcoming the entire house of cards falls apart. This is how men end up frustrated, angry, and feeling like they have been ripped off. Men need to always ask themselves "Why am I doing this?" If he is working his ass off at the gym, at school, or at work he has to always ask the funda…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 06:57 PM
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Sorry that you didn't like the answer but that's reality buddy. It is younger women and girls (teenagers usually) who have the stronger preference for non-masculine "cuteness" in males. So I did in fact answer your question VERY seriously. Fertile women prefer Manlier Men. Why women fall for older men. Those women who prefer less masculine and more effeminate men are usually women with lower self esteem, such as - oh I don't know - teenage girls who are just entering puberty and barely discoveri…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:25 PM
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I just noticed it's Purge Day, No wonder this felt so much like a shit post. Carry on noble sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:47 PM
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where do you see any femcel content here?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:38 PM
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I'm sure this will come as a shock to all two femcels in this place. If you really wanna rock the boat how about banning women who are already in relationships or married? That would make about 99.98% of all the women in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:37 PM
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You asked a question and I actually have you a straight real answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 06:33 PM
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By your logic this should be unacceptable to you. What do you consider an "acceptable" form of language rules being replaced? I already explained that two messages ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 11:55 PM
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Feminism was always abut bringing women to the same level of men - by knocking men down. Sexual Liberation was also a tenet of feminism. It is foolish to deny it. Women somehow got it in their head that they deserve to have sex without any of the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 04:40 PM
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It's about cost. When the ego gets involved one has already failed at this game.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 04:36 PM
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Women need to understand if they want to achieve equality between the sexes, as they claim they want to, is that they shouldn’t make one guy wait longer than any other. You are advocating for a weird type of "sexual socialism." It's just not gonna happen. All relationships are transactional. This means that it's a market, a trade, a competition. Men and women are both out to get the most for themselves while investing the least. A "more bang for your buck" approach. Everyone always wants the bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 04:34 PM
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There was obviously an inflection in the former which is what served the purpose of the "do" in "Drinks you?" Did you know Language has rules? And that the evolution of language happens when the rules are changed, or gradually replaced, and NOT when they are just ignored en masse where everyone just utters what they think makes sense only in their head? It's just like the rules of Math. You can't just suddenly decided to change the + symbol with & and then go on "3 & 5 = 2 because you have 2 set…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:58 PM
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We're not talking about butchering words, we are talking about butchering syntax and morphology which is literally how you destroy a language. It is the difference between Speak'n like ya know 'm sayin. and truf no teh me sayin to u eh? < This is what destroyed English would look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:35 PM
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Hobosexual just means "attracted to Hobos"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:27 PM
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Spreading legs for housing and goods is just a good old fashioned Hoe. Why are we making up words for things that already have a proper name? A hoe is literally a woman who spreads her legs to stay off the streets and feed herself. It's a woman who earns her living through sex. Not to be confused with a slut who is a woman who does it for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:23 PM
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lol Descriptive Linguistics is a euphemism for "ghetto speak." It means that the people who made up this word have a vulgar grasp of the English language. English is my 2nd language so I know all about the 1,001 ways on how to butcher it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:16 PM
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Hmmm that sounds stupid as hell. The prefix always means the object of attraction in any -sexual suffix. For example Homo-Sexual the "Homo" means Man or "same", as in, attracted to a Man or to one's "same" sex. Pan-Sexual means attracted to all because the prefix pan- means "all." So it should follow that Hobo-Sexual should mean "attracted to Hobos." I believe this word came out of FDS because that is the definition I was using. When the man-'loving' gals over at at FDS mention the word Hobosexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:12 PM
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Um, no. You have the definition backwards, that's where all your confusion is coming from. A Hobosexual is someone who is into bums. Most commonly it is women who love to take care of a bum and financially support him; such as a Sugar Momma but worse because traditional Sugar Momma's demand that their boys take care of themselves whereas a Hobosexual takes care of a lazy bum that never grooms. Another name for Hobosexual women is a Mommy McBangmaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:52 PM
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Learn to look at it from a detached point of view. The first rule is don't get desperate. If you are relying on your feelings after the fact it can lead to false conclusions, your feelings work best during a relationship when you have to make decisions on the fly but they can get in the way when trying to analyze the relationship objectively from afar. Why do you think examining your relationships and dating habits is hard? You should start by first establishing what it is that you want out of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:48 PM
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The short answer is No. It literally takes men years to figure out and understand and then practice how to arouse women. And even then the acquired formula does not work for all women which is why Pickup Artists are constantly revising and updating their manuals. There is nothing innate about understanding women's sexuality this is why young men are by far the most sexually inept despite the fact that young men are at their biological prime. There is nothing intuitive about women's sexuality. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:34 PM
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Old Bat here... the only Gothic girls that I know who are into androgynous boys are high school girls for whom "Gothic" is just a phase, and who think Hot Topic = Gothic. All the grown gothic women I know are into beastly looking dudes. The closest thing to "Androgynous" types would be guys like Chris Pohl or Marylin Manson back before he became old and fat. I suppose that if by androgynous you mean "fucking weird" then I see what you mean. But it is not the same type of androgyny that the mains…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:15 PM
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Yes, they are called teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:18 PM
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Have you identified the sources of your failures in dating? That is where all inquiry and work should start. I don't think saying yes to every man who asks you out is going to help you. You are going to end up wasting a lot of time with guys that you already knew from first impressions that you're not going to be into. Personally I would rather not have my time wasted. I have seen guys waste a ton of effort, time and money on lukewarm women who ended up dumping them anyway after "giving them a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:13 PM
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So how would they explain me? Simple: We are biologically hard wired for procreating and through a process we do not yet understand some individuals of our species are just not sexually attracted to the opposite sex. This doesn't mean that the rest of the code for procreation will also be inactive such as preening, and inborn instincts towards attracting the opposite gender even if that is not what one consciously wants. In simple words: You are still biologically programmed to be feminine, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:20 PM
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Men want to be wanted and to be valued by women for the right reasons: Strength, Competence, Power, Intelligence, Merit. Men desire to have affection as a reward for their effort. Men do NOT want to be wanted or valued for the wrong reasons: Cute, Helpless, Shy, Vulnerable, Sweet which are all traits of being Weak, Childlike or Feminine. These are the reasons women would love or show affections towards a child, a cripple, a puppy, or dopey fool. Women's affections are not the same as women's Res…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:32 PM
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Give people a mask (anonymity) and they will tell you what they truly think.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:26 PM
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Yes women are encouraged to look their best all the time which is why they are neurotic about it. Men, on the other hand, are pressured to be the best - at everything - all the time! Which is what makes men neurotic and the number one reason men either despair or don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:23 PM
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As if men give a fuck what society thinks on these matters. Besides, what good is there in "looking good" if the audience that men are looking good for still don't give a shit? It's a very specific demographic of women who are into men who doll themselves up and even among this group they grow tired of male vanity pretty quickly. Men "Level up" by being an asset to society, as in, being more useful, talented, and needed. NOT by undermining their utility and usefulness by daintying themselves up …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:00 PM
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His body doesn't experience permanent damage. Hmm maybe it's just me but I don't see any "damage" to women's bodies after they have babies. In fact some women tend to get hotter when they have babies, just my observation, can't speak for other men on this matter. I had no clue about the teeth issue though. I know men already who invest in their girl's dental health, a colleague recently paid 9.000 to have his girlfriend's teeth done, they whitened, straightened, and cleaned her whole mouth and r…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:31 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:07 PM
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I said a lot of things, what exactly do you wish for me to procure a peer reviewed paper on? Also, if we are going to tie ourselves up in knots looking for sources to every single little thing that I utter without the advantage of inference then we are going to be at this for a very long time. To say nothing of the fact that the majority of what I am talking about is either behind pay walls or no research can possibly exist on it since you would need to cross reference several studies to "prove"…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:50 PM
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It sounds like you’re saying that there’s a biological reason that mothers love their children, and that fathers don’t have the same compulsion. That is correct except with men it is a combination of biology and socialization such as instilling in men a sense of fatherly pride or tying his sense of masculine identity into the affair, otherwise men can very easily be alienated from their kids and do not have as strong of a biological compulsion towards parenting as women do. This is also the reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:06 PM
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My exact words: "men have no biological compulsion to care for babies to anywhere near the same degree as women do." Context matters. Read the whole sentence and then it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:41 PM
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I meant exactly the words that I chose. What part of it is confusing to you? 🤔 What do I need to clarify?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:36 PM
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The same way you explain any and all outliers in every system. Exceptions exist. You really don’t believe that fathers have feelings for their children? That's not what I said nor implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:27 PM
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Nice, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:25 PM
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I don't know, you're the one who brought it up. I have never bothered to think that far ahead because with me it stops at the point where one interacts with women. This is where men either make it or break it in life. So all the focus is on the approach towards - or aversion to - relationships with women. It is meaningless to talk about kids and parenting when 100% of the issues and problems start and end with the relationship with the woman before a kid even exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:24 PM
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No. I mean exactly what I mean: That parents are neurochemically bonded to their children (specifically the mother) because this bonding ensures the survival of the child and we have evolved this way through the eons because parental investment produced more babies than those deadbeats who left their children to their own devices. This isn't "teaching" children anything. We are already biologically hard wired for this behavior and women especially although exceptions do exist such as post-partum…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:07 PM
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I was joking by comparing MGTOW to the Gothic sub-Culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:38 PM
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Yes, that is why we are literally hard wired to feel attached to parent or child, otherwise we would each go our separate way and not benefit from any relationship, and as weak as our species is that would mean our extinction within one generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:35 PM
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Precisely, that is why modern men say "fuck that" and chose to live for ourselves instead. With 7 billion of us on the planet there is no urgency in passing on our genes. It is best to look out for #1 now. But my previous point is that Natural Selection is impartial and uncaring. Evolution rewards what works, no matter how much the final product sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:33 PM
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Are you referencing the Myth of Pygmalion and Galatea?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:11 PM
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I've been speaking with your subculture. Lol You sound like a high school counselor talking to me about my Gothic phase. Pssst... it's not a phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:40 PM
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You've been with over 100 hookers? Dude, I am a guy and even I would say to you "6 feet! Ma' fakka." There is no way you don't have an STD. Seriously, are you talking to normal girls or is your entire opinion about women's opinion based on women who share the same "no fucks given" mentality of the hookers you frequent?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:43 AM
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Men want to have kids of theirs own, and not someone else's kids. Is this a serious question? Adopting a baby is a totally different matter. You adopt a baby together which neither of you had anything to do with the birth of that child. A woman who already has kids is not going to be in any type of mood or situation in life to have more kids with you. That is why men do not like single mothers. Although in a really strange way the age and the gender of the kids matters because I happen to know t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:36 AM
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We will manage 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:18 AM
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It's a fabricated smear against men banding together behind the idea that the universe does not revolve around women. We are "especially dangerous" not because of that incel BS but because ours is a world view where women do not matter. We do not prioritize female validation and we have an indifference towards women which in the feminist establishments eyes makes us far more threatening than actual misogynists. They believe that indifference towards women is worse than hatred towards women. Whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 07:02 AM
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You want women to have blind trust? That would be stupid. That would indeed be stupid, so my answer is no. But in truth I don't care one way or another what women have or want on this matter. My concern is the benefit of men, women can do as they wish for their own part.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:50 AM
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Most men do not fully comprehend what rape actually means. These self proclaimed rapists who say they would rape if they had a change to get away with it would most likely feel severely turned off when actually looking at a real woman's vulnerability and fear face to face. Most men simply can't do it, it is a very fucked up thing to do that is up there with killing someone. Everyone says they can do it until it's time to actually do it. These guys are used to seeing the dainty mock struggle of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:41 AM
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You cannot socialize away a biological drive. Every large religion in the world has tried and failed miserably for millennia. Women only ever learn that having kids was a mistake after having them. Natural selection rewards women who breed no matter if they do so intentionally or by mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:31 AM
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I am sure that women intentionally getting themselves knocked up in an attempt to retain a man has nothing to do with it. Also, if I were with a woman and she has some agenda to never have any kids with me then I would be well within my right to find a woman who is willing to do so. You are not the only ones who are on the clock you know. Don't waste a man's time. Now if neither of you want kids then you basically hit the lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:27 AM
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It would be life destroying. You mean it isn't already at the mere accusation? So a baby is entirely a man's progeny. A baby to you would be no different than if I were to order the coffee from the girl at the local Starbucks and is to hand it over to me when I pay for it. Strangely enough this is something I would be onboard with as I am looking for a surrogate mother who will carry my child and then have nothing to do with us. I would pay her for her trouble of course. And why do you think you…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:22 AM
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What they actually need is to feel their feelings and heal. That is an annoyingly meaningless platitude. At least men seek real solutions to their problems and not feel good emotionalisms that are non-solutions to real world problems. I mentioned that sometimes people change and that is the reason they chose to leave. I did not say that women are always the ones that initiate separations, a lot of the time a man can feel disconnected to a woman he once lives because he either learns something ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:12 AM
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Commitment to a changing cause is foolishness. That is like signing a contract where the other party can edit and revise the contract at any given point in time and you still have to honor it long after it ceases to be what you signed up for. This is why committing to a woman - or worse, marrying one - is extremely stupid. Emotional support and love are intangible good which can be bartered, bought, sold, or traded, yes. That is why we pay "therapists" for such intangible goods the way we pay a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 06:05 AM
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That would be their problem and should be of no concern to either of us here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:56 AM
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Um, no. Sexual reproduction is what allows for gigantic steps in evolution which is why it is by far the more prevalent form of reproduction in all life forms that are more complex than an amoeba. The Mala Variability Hypothesis explains how Humans came to be the dominant species on the planet. There is nothing more experimental than occupying both the best and the worst spectrums and reaping the benefits of any big rewards that come with such high risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:53 AM
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The phrase goes All relationships are transactional, and not Some relationships are transactional. And I said I do not want anything within the context of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:49 AM
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You're talking about Imitative Magic (yes this is a real thing). This is when a person (or magician) mimics a relationship with an effigy of a real object, or that of a person (real or imagined as in your example with Jesus Christ) in order to enact their will on the surrogate of their desire in the hopes that it will cause an actual effect in reality. Think Vodoo doll for example. This practice does in fact alter one's mind and it is indistinguishable from when children have imaginary friends -…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:42 AM
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You can't earn anyone's love or attention by what you do and it's nonsense to live your life in an effort to do so. That is precisely my point. I am glad you got it. Have you already planned your funeral and you set your mind on what will happen after death? Or do you focus on the life you live now?" As a matter of fact I have. I already bought my coffin and have my will and my affairs in order in case I die at this very moment. I plan on leaving an intellectual legacy rather than a genetic one.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:05 AM
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We are romantic ascetics, that is why some of us forsake all relationships with women. But even among MGTOW this isn't the norm - most reduce their interaction with women to a bare minimum and only ever interact with women out of pure biological drive. Those of us who go Monk Mode forsake it all and learn to suppress and control our biological urges. I do it because I believe there is an entire universe outside of women and society that one as a man can explore and carve our ones meaning in life…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 05:01 AM
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There is more to life than just women. We have evolved past our biological function.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:23 AM
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You just basically said men are the driving force of evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:23 AM
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We enjoy illusions all the time, they are called movies, stories, games, and literature. I'm reminded of a line from the movie V For Vendetta: "Artists use lies to tell the truth while politicians use them to cover the truth up." Illusions are nebulous lies that rhyme with the truth, but which aren't quite so, that is why they can be effectively used to both tell the truth or to tell a lie. There is immense power in narrative and the crafting of illusions to sell a story. That is why it is the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 02:11 AM
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How do you expect any research to exist on a topic that is Academically taboo? You cannot even say that Men and Women are biologically different in Academia without getting "cancelled" into oblivion. It is not politically correct to fund, conduct, or publish any research in the sort of topics we commonly discuss here. That is why the Manosphere is the closest thing to actual research into Female Nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:43 AM
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That entirely depends on the type of plan B. Having her own place to stay, and finances aside is one thing. Having a club of Orbiters ready to swoop in as soon as she dumps her husband is something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:33 AM
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Because it is a statement that a man was never adequate, that the trust he thought she had bestowed on him was never there. That she was being a phony. It offends men the same way we are offended by swindlers, liars, and fakes. It is a sour pill to swallow but there it is. And like I said, men have adapted to it. That is why we are the ones who have a plan B now if we are not actively against marriage or relationships with women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 08:44 AM
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All I will say to you is plan ahead. The woman you marry today will not be the same woman next year or in 5 years. You both change, that is just human nature. And all the old codes of honor which facilitated older couples to stick with it for life are long dead. So You are all on your own when shit hits the fan and you cannot rely on her to stick to her end of the deal, because even if she wants to, society is pressuring her with every motivation in the world to do otherwise, if not to at least …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 08:42 AM
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Which question didn't I asnwer?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 08:27 AM
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My question is though is why there are some men (especially in manosphere) that get offended with women who use the same approach?" We adopted this approach from women, it is not the other way around. Women are not learning anything new from us, they are the teachers here. Women have safety nets to catch them after a divorce, men do not. Men would be wise to never get married at all in the first place, and if they choose to engage in relationships with women they need to be aware of both the ris…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 08:20 AM
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If only the mainstream media felt the same. They have been shutting down all MGTOW platforms for the last year as if we were some kind of fucking terrorist group. And in fact, some feminist journalist have tried to smear us as terrorists and Alt-Right white supremacists despite the fact that at least half of MGTOW are not white and most of us hate Right/Left politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 08:02 AM
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I do not want anything. I said so in the very first paragraph. Do you guys have any relationships? With women? No. Like not just romantic ones but platonic, friends, family?" I limit my relationships with women to business (The Workplace) and family, I allow for nothing else. And yes I understand how they work, that is why I am MGTOW. You can either love women, or you can understand them; but you cannot do both. It is precisely because I have a very deep understanding of intimacy which is why I …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 07:48 AM
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Honestly these read like weird revenge fantasies against the manosphere and specifically against TRP. They read like what it would sound like if feminism was honest and up front.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:15 AM
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The fucked up thing that should be known is that sometimes power is more alluring than sex itself. There is such a thing as being sexually attracted to power.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:59 AM
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Men care because a woman's salary is a pretty reliable indicator on whether or not she is even going to be interested in him to begin with. Women who earn more than men are not attracted to those men. And men know this, which is why they save themselves the trouble and just not bother with women who earn more. They are not going to waste their time on a losing bet. Other than that I can't really say what I would do because I don't date. I would never accept a relationship with any woman no matte…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 11:12 AM
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If normal men like you are in the minority then you can't exactly say you are normal now can you? lol Normal = The Majority. But I see what you mean. Pedos will never be normal, if they were our species would die off pretty quickly. The vast majority of us are biologically hard wired to be attracted to women who show off very overt physical signs of fertility - which is why the vast majority of men are attracted to girls in their 20's. Kids are not fertile, so being attracted to them is an aberr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 11:09 AM
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I forget which documentary I saw this in but it said that the majority of pedos are emotionally stunted passive and shy creeps who might actually be more scared of the child than the child would be of him. These are men who were usually abused themselves and never quite grew up and suffer an actual Peter Pan complex (Think of Michael Jackson) The type of pedos that take the initiative to approach kids and dare to talk to them are usually aroused by the sense of power they feel they have over you…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 10:52 AM
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Makes sense because marriage is a social contract and according to U.S. laws just because you're married to someone it does not mean you are entitled to having sex with them. So technically you could marry someone who is under the age of 18 but legally you cannot have sex with them. Marriage is supposed to be for tax perks and inheritance and legal and familiar advantage and alliance. This phenomena of people marrying "for love" is relatively new.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 10:29 AM
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Why did you feel ashamed of yourself when the guy was the one being the creep?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 10:21 AM
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This is just pure cringe. I am pretty sure this is a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 10:18 AM
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The same exact thing. Except that at 30 sneaks are easier to spot given that she would now have about 2 decades worth of experience in dealing with the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 08:23 AM
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Women do approach, they just don't initiate. They are not passive when they feel attracted to a man. They have their way of getting noticed. It is not that they are gun shy, it's that they are not attracted to men who lack initiative, so after making themselves known and you do not initiate an interaction with her she will interpret your lack of action as either "not interested" or "too insecure" for her taste. Then she will walk. Women love maintaining plausible deniability, that is why they wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 08:27 AM
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Mature and intelligent men who have their shit together in life do better than both. Each type of man will attract a particular type of girl. Ogres will not attract the cute doctor who is out with her friends and the pretty boy will not attract the demure catholic girl who is acting daring for the night. But a man who has his head, and his life, screwed on will certainly attract, or at least intrigue, both. Ogres are usually the well-put-together man's employee, while the pretty boy is most like…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 08:16 AM
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We live in very strange times when one's devilry is turned to angelic counsel. I have a lot of contention with women in general but empathy with them is not beneath me, and neither is helping them when it is fair and just to do so. Plus it's my unspoken duty as a MGTOW to put PUA's on blast.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 08:10 AM
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Stay away from the manosphere. And stay away from Online Dating. And sex is not the only reason men would want to approach you or would want to be friendly with you. Take sex off the table, when men genuinely have a crush on a girl, sex takes a back seat. But keep in mind that feelings sometimes do change. Just as you may feel super attracted to a guy for a while and then notice the feelings fading away so too can a guy's feelings fade over time, this is why relationships are a test of those wat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 07:54 AM
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lol why? I was not expecting anyone here to even know who Mr. Garak is much less have any clue about Deep Space 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 12:05 AM
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Then help changing my experience by getting on board with affording men the right to opt out of fatherhood if they wish. 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 11:46 PM
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This will sound stupid as hell but sometimes when I type I hear myself speaking in Mr. Garak's Voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 11:36 PM
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Again, this is not about birth control, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 10:37 PM
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I grew up in an feminist environment. I am anti-feminist now, and MGTOW. Both my parents are still married, they dated for about 5 years before getting married. I am in my 30's, stable family, stable friends, relations, and social network. I am educated and have a good career. Most of my social circle is single men and married women. My socioeconomic situation? I was poor as fuck as a child and grew up in one the most violent cities in one of it's most violent neighborhoods in the U.S. I got my …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 08:30 PM
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Women who give up kids for adoption, or abort them, or force the father to pay up because she cannot afford it, are not seen as deadbeats. So neither should men. Women have the right to not be forced into becoming mothers against their will. Men should have that same right. Why are you excusing deadbeat mothers and railing on men for a choice they do not have? You act as if the act of sex is an involuntary act in women's part. As if getting knocked up is entirely the man's fault. If you wish to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 08:04 PM
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It is not strange at all when you factor in the evolutionary purpose of our sexualities. Men strive to impregnate women in order to pass on their genes thus it serves men no evolutionary advantage or purpose at all in any sexual activity that is not conducive towards this end. That is why the male homosexual population is very small. There is a selective pressure against it. Women strive not just be be impregnated but this comes with a plethora of caveats. Since pregnancy is a biological commitm…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 06:46 PM
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What we deserve and what we actually get are two very different things. OP is talking about the ways things are and not about what they should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 06:12 PM
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If it won't change that right then why are you up in arms about it? And come clean with what? I am not hiding my intentions. I've made them very clear from the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:51 PM
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Men dont actually have a higher sex drive, that's a myth. Facts disprove your myth dear. We do have a much higher sex drive. This is not even up for debate as the evidence for it is so vast it's a joke to dispute it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:47 PM
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This is not about fertility either. Why are women struggling so hard to grasp this simple concept? Men need to have the right to opt out of fatherhood. Period. Stop adding superfluous discussions that have nothing to do with this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:27 PM
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Because birth control has nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 06:26 AM
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This has nothing to do with "reproductive rights," it's about the right to opt out of parenthood. Women have that right and men do not. You are being ignorant on purpose now. I've explained this 4 or 5 times! Hell, I've lost count! This is the last time I will bother answering your nonsensical attempts at changing the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 06:24 AM
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If a woman decides to have a baby that places a legal responsibility on the father against his will. What part of this do you not understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:43 AM
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Why are you injecting birth control at all when I am talking about men having the right to opt out of fatherhood? Birth control has nothing to do with this discussion. The only reason I introduced abortion is because through birth a woman can force a man to be a father against his will but men cannot force women to be mothers against their will, therefore women's right to abortion should be revoked. This is not hard to understand. Stop clouding the discussion with deflections into birth control.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:09 AM
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You lost me... what are you talking about? I feel like you're fishing for an argument where none exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:06 AM
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Hmmm no. Why would I? Birth control would actually solve everyone's problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 11:14 PM
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I know women use soft language to soothe the weak egos of dangerous men as self defense. But that wasn't want I was talking about. I was talking about men and women's distinctive points of view. Men and women process reality differently. Men are visual while women are emotional, and very often what feels right for a woman may look wrong to a man. Women also tend to be very verbal which makes them lose sight of what is actually happening while men are much more focused on what is actually happeni…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 11:13 PM
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To start with: By supporting anti-abortion laws as well as any and all legislation towards that end. I am also supporting both legal and societal expectations placed on the mother which hold her fully accountable for her choices on this matter. Why? Because there is no legislation to grant men more rights at this time so my only recourse is to bring women down to equalize this particular playing field. If men cannot have rights in this matter then it is my duty to bring down women's in order to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 10:45 PM
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The operating word there is "then." The entirety of the meaning of that whole sentence hinges on the sentence which came before. Grammar and Reading Comprehension 101 my dear. It's an "If" and "Then" sentence. Do not take the "then" without the "if." Otherwise, the entire thing doesn't make any sense and would be completely out of context. To rephrase: Women do not deserve the right to opt out of motherhood IF Men are not afforded that same right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:22 PM
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That is not what I said, like, at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 06:34 PM
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How about giving men the right to opt put of fatherhood just as women have the right to opt out of motherhood? How about some actual equality here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 06:33 PM
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If only reality worked just like our theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 08:11 PM
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Men can also be held back by pregnancy, it's called child support. I have recently recanted my position on this one because women have convinced me that so long as men do not have the right to opt out of fatherhood then women do not deserve the right to opt out of motherhood either. Like you said Laws that hold one gender back will hold back the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 05:36 PM
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The question from OP was why do men find the term "husband material" so insulting and I am just one guy giving one answer. Other men will have their own reasons. If you read more of the responses you will see what I mean but I can comfortably say that the reason I find the term insulting is very similar to the reason so many other men also find it insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 08:42 AM
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I wasn't talking about masturbation. More men masturbate than have sex even when the sex is available to them. That's a separate topic though. Being in the mood to rub one out is not the same as being in the mood to do the real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 12:49 AM
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I'll believe it when I see it. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 11:43 PM
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Only to me? 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 11:02 PM
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This is really unhinged. I agree, why do you think I am going Monk? I said men understand the game, I didn't imply that we all play the game. MGTOW is about walking away from all that Machiavellian BS that women get up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:41 PM
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Meth feels really good as well, it doesn't necessarily mean that you want it. Women enjoy sex when they get it, but overall they don't actually want it. They do not seek it, they do not initiate and they show no craving for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:39 PM
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Men say women do not enjoy sex because - as you explained it yourself - women are almost never in the mood by themselves. Men have to actually make it their chore to get women into the mood since it is men who actually desire and want sex, and even then he has to work at sustaining it because women are not capable (or willing) of deriving pleasure for themselves. Men initiate sex pretty much all the time and women keep behaving as if it's either a chore for them or a man has to reduce his own se…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:25 PM
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Some hope is better than no hope. It works for the billions who believe in a sky daddy that will make it all better when they kick the bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:07 PM
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We absolutely do - now. 😎 The goal of a relationship is to acquire, exploit, and disempower. That's how one wins the game, or so we understand it. It is all too BDSM-esque-ish for my energy. Nobody's got time for that. I can barely keep my own self under control to be wasting any of my time and energy on owning another person. Which is why I very ironically support women's freedom because the more freedom women have the less responsibility befalls on me. So "Girl Power!" and all that jazz - just…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 09:35 PM
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I would say that about half of women don't like sex but they do enjoy it when they get it. The other 40% likes it but require the man to initiate it, otherwise they are perfectly fine without sex and never lose any sleep over it. 90% of women can go Nun-Mode and it would never bother bother much, maybe a mild urge here and there, a passing appetite or a fleeting daydream at best. Then there are about 10% of women who both enjoy it and initiate it. These are the ones that the other 90% attempt to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 09:33 PM
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You almost sound as if you are implying that it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 09:29 PM
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You're juggling the terms here by their present and future tense. Everyone is always mildly insulted if they are told they will make a great anything some day. The implication being that they are not that thing right now, thus they are just falling short. When calling a man "husband material" it is to be understood in the present tense - not that he will make a good husband some day in the future as a consolation prize. So the meat of the matter here is that men find it insulting to be "husband …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 09:07 PM
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Men do not bother "hearing" anything. We are visual creatures. We watch what you do, and not what you say. Women mean one thing while doing something else completely different from what they mean. This is where your confusion of our perspective is coming from. We are judging women with our own eyes, as in, by watching their behavior, by watching what they do. Which doesn't jive at all with what women say they do. You can't tell someone a story when they are already a witness to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:56 PM
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Judging by the amount of buyer's remorse that women express after they marry "husband material" and the high divorce rates not to mention how much they shit talk their husbands then the answer is a resounding Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:48 PM
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I didn't say it was a problem. This is only a problem to those who still subscribe to antiquated and false notions of chivalric romance, with notions of love; but not to the modern 'post-feminist' reality of all relationships being transactional. The cat was unceremoniously kicked out of the bag when feminists proclaimed (or more like confessed) that the personal is political. This means that intimacy itself - the core of the personal - is the battleground, and always has been. It was just that …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 06:04 PM
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Because: Husband Material = Doting moron, simp, tool, a stooge at her disposal, settled, soft, de-fanged, Homer Simpson, Tim "The Toolman" Taylor, Stereotypical Sitcom-Dad. Always at her beck and call, ATM Machine, Disposable Utility, A Divorce Rape waiting to happen or in the process of happening. Wife Material = Sexy, lovable, intelligent, cute, feminine, fertile, motherly, happy, non-combative, peaceful, docile, demure, easy to talk to, best friend, safe person, trustworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:47 PM
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In case you haven't noticed, fascism itself is a form of Cultural Marxism. Both Musolini and Hitler sold the masses the propaganda of cultural grandiosity and ethnic-nationalism in order to create the Cultural Hegemony that Gramsci talks about. In Italy's case it was literally a revival of Colonialism and in Germany's case a completely made up race theory. Both of these assholes were Cultural Marxists because that is how you convince tens of millions of people in the two most civilized countries…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 03:42 PM
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It isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:11 AM
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Try reading what you are responding to before embarrassing yourself with a retort that has nothing to do with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:11 AM
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It will depress you even more when you clarify that I wasn't specifically talking about the love between men and women or of relationships at all. I was speaking of love, esteem, and respect in the most general form.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 10:07 AM
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I was actually referencing Orwell and Huxley. But Peterson was a good guess. And the concept of "cultural marxism" per se doesn't actually come from Marx himself, it comes from the philosophy of Cultural Hegemony by Antonio Gramsci. In brass tacks terms "Cultural Marxism" simply means "Cultural Power Struggle" à la Marxist style. Anyone that dares to subscribe to any neo-Marxist ideology has always struck me as having a questionable intelligence and a non existent grasp of reality. It's gonna be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 08:56 AM
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It is not as simple as just picking the top job on a list and then just doing the thing. I am completely fucking miserable in my success. I absolutely despise my "lucrative" job. In fact, if I am perfectly honest I hate working in general. I am a drone and I will never encourage any boy to be the same soulless cog in a machine as I am. I was just born too early I guess. Boys today have figured out that a minimalist lifestyle where one only works just enough to stave off homelessness and starvati…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 08:19 AM
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I didn't say I believe feminists are out to kill all men. That isn't their intent. Theirs is a more practical and all the more insidious agenda. Feminism employs cultural Marxism to achieve it's goals. What those goals are can vary from organization to organization. The goals of Danish feminists are not exactly the same as the goals of your local feminists at your college. But they sure do rhyme. That is why in the Manosphere we are refining our understanding of Female Nature in order to better …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 07:59 AM
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A common feminist dictum holds there are no innocent men, as per theslogans #YesAllMen and #KillAllMen. We are now in a time when a sexualencounter can be recast in a malevolent light, no matter whether theparticipants all appeared to consider it consensual at the time and nomatter how long ago it took place. https://reason.com/2019/08/23/im-radioactive/ ​ "Kill All Men" https://www.inc.com/suzanne-lucas/huffpost-editor-says-new-years-resolution-is-to-kill-all-men.html "And murder all the male b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 07:35 AM
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FDS is a gold mine for men who make it their hobby to document and study female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 07:05 AM
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Do not confuse TradCucks with Red Pillers. This idiotic idea of Traditionalism is the original definition of the Blue Pill. And feminism is in fact destroying western society, that is a demonstrable fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:54 AM
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FDS are just WGTOW in hard denial. If they quit the anti-Masculine BS and just come clean we may be able to create some sort of coalition here but alas, women choose to burn down even that kind of bridge.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:51 AM
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There is "pick me" And then there are "Pick ME dammit! You stupid misogynist asshole!" à la angry FDS screeching. The only difference is that Pickmes are happy to get any man they can get whereas FDSers feel entitled to the best men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:43 AM
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A woman loving any man for anything other than his utility to her is in fact a very revolutionary concept in case you've been living under a rock. Such a thing is just not normal. In fact, we are still not even convinced that it is real. If you are the exception don't act like it's the rule. You will sound as ignorant and out of touch as a rich snob telling poor people that all hey have to do to survive in these hard times is to just have their butler clip a few coupons to save.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:30 AM
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Very well and truthfully said. Men purchase the love we get, that is why we feel "entitled" to it the way one feels as the rightful owner of a purchase. We do not get shit for free. This is what the feminists utterly fail to comprehend. They call us entitled because they do not have a clue what it means to earn the right to exist. Theirs is an existence of plenty, that is why they take love for granted because it is literally granted to them, for free, unconditionally, without question. Therefor…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:27 AM
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Pretty much the only reason a lot of ambitious men put in so much effort into getting ahead in life was make themselves attractive for women. I admit it is the reason I achieved ridiculous success in life. For a decade I held on to the stupid idea of "building the nest." To advance in life, get resources, properties, and a source of passive income spurred by the motivation to hopefully attract a woman. Men do not stop with material acquisitions, men like me usually go all in. That means I improv…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:22 AM
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This happens to me all the time. Plenty of women who had zero interest in me before suddenly become very intrigued by my existence when they find out I have resources. It isn't an automatic red flag per se because women are attracted to men of means primarily because it signals your maturity. They don't see a guy who is loaded as much as they see a guy who has the intelligence, energy, and survival skills to make it in the world. Women are attracted to fitness and men who have resources are usua…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:07 AM
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I care more about my sticky notes getting stolen out of my office (I know it's one of the girls doing it, the guys are too sloppy to be stealing my notes). I only mentioned that detail within conversation. It's not as if I care 'so much' or if it takes up any significant amount of my time. Men can usually survive their entire lives without any deeper knowledge about menstruation other than it just being something that happens to women. And mots men learn about it through jokes when they are kids…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 05:33 AM
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Also why the fuck are you “excusing” them for bathroom breaks? Because they are on the clock. It is my job to know what my employees are up to when they are being paid for their time. It's work, not school. I have fired a lot of people over the years for milking the clock. Men should 100% know the ins and outs of menstruation. It’s part of the species staying alive. Men barely know how their dick works; don't bank on them having knowledge of women's anatomy. I have met some incredibly stupid guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 05:29 PM
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I know you were joking, if the alex jones video of him losing his shit over gay frogs wasn't an atomic hint. The strongest man can be taken down by subtle poison. That is how sneaks, spies, and double crossers do it when they wish to take down a man that they cannot bring down by frontal force. They instead do it secretly, covertly, patiently, tactfully. It's how subtle propaganda works. Women do not take down men through the force of arms the way men take down other men, which is to say: savage…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 09:17 AM
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So... I'm kinda getting the strange impression that you're somehow blaming men - somehow - for women's menstruation? lol Like why did you even bring that up at all. That is such a personal thing for women and how is it relevant at all in this conversation? Like, is it our fault that women menstruate? And menstruation can be a crutch for women, even today. I often allow my female employees to take a day, leave early, or take a break when I know they are having cramps, bloating or other mild to mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 04:36 AM
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Perhaps not. But Ethics is the yardstick by which we measure our personal moralities and come to a consensus on Right and Wrong. So it is not the case that: "Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man." Subjective does not mean all opinions are created equal. Also, don't misunderstand. The test measures one's sense of fairness and justice not morality per se. It measures children's ability to reason situations, actions, and circumstances where a sense of fairness and The Right Thing To Do …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 04:11 AM
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This is reddit, what did you expect? 😕 They owned their wives and daughters. Peasant men still owned their peasant wives and daughters. So the feminist narrative goes. That there is little written record of women's menstruation is due to the tradition of midwives and from the fact that women passed down such knowledge mother to daughter for generations. The men writing the books saw no need to write down such things unless they were physicians like Hippocrates who did write about it in the 3rd c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:11 AM
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I think you mentioned "hot air" before so that is why I decided to be thorough instead of brief. I cited my sources in case someone else thinks I am just blowing smoke. So which do you want me to be? Do you want brevity or do you want thoroughness? Because I can't swing it both ways my dear. Something has to give for the sake of the other. Women are far more free and less oppressed than in the past. Yes... and so are men. My point is that men have never made any progress in which women did not c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:37 AM
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Not constantly but women do in fact need a leg up more often than men do if not for sheer survival against the elements, animals, or from other more aggressive men then for giving birth and having babies which is when women are at their most physically vulnerable. Studies show womens bodies respond the same to training stimulus as mens they just start at a lower baseline That lower baseline is there for a reason. It is not a question of sameness, it is a question of proportion and overall mass a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 12:24 AM
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Women are in fact physically weaker than men. But why are you ignoring actual history and specifically all of the mythology to the contrary? If women were in fact seen as all around weaker than men then explain The Goddesses. Look at my icon itself, look at my chosen name! Perseus was a mythical hero and a champion of Athena. So give me a break and please open a history book that is older than the 1960's when feminists started their sexist revisionism of history to paint themselves as the perpet…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 09:38 PM
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The following is a comment that I left in a post that has since been deleted which was basically asking the same question. I believe my response will give you a hint as to why masculinity is not irrelevant at all when literally billions of men in history have been willing to fight, die, work, slave over, or kill for it. This is not something to be taken lightly, you are dealing with the core of what makes a man into a person. Masculinity is not some parasitical "social concept" that is attached …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 06:27 PM
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I didn't imply that men have never sought their own best interests. What I am saying is that Chivalry was a culture of privilege towards women essentially giving women always the benefit of the doubt and a presumed innocence. It was also a culture of assistance towards women where it was a man's duty to lay down his own comfort and safety in service of women's best interests with no expectation of a reward for his troubles. So there was no such thing as an assurance to access to sex from women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 04:42 PM
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Why do you and so many people value something so irrelevant? I am not going to dignify that with a response.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:56 PM
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If that is the case you are therefore rewarding chivalry which is the act of going above and beyond the call of common courtesy. Not all people want to be better people. And even those of us who do seek to better ourselves we do not necessarily fall into your idea of what a better person should be. I do have different criteria for men and women because men and women do not share the same experience in life just as I do not judge young people and old people by the same criteria. Nuance matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:53 PM
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I want all people to be this not just men. That's called courtesy and civility. But even these are fraught with bias and prejudice in where women are afforded a greater number of social privileges and courtesies that men are just flat out barred from. This in and of itself is not an issue until women start using their privileges to maneuver against men's interests and then wall themselves behind a fortress of untouchability on the condition of their feigned fragility. But that is a whole other d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:33 PM
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That begs the question: Which men exactly do women think deserve respect? Because you are arguing the same exact point that I am making: Women do not show men any kind of respect unless she believes he somehow earns it according to a set of her own sexist criteria. And how about leaving the penis alone and dishing our respect on the condition that one may be a human being?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:23 PM
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That is an insane question that I don't even know where to begin to explain what is wrong with what you're assuming. I give up. I have tried explaining this in every which way and you still don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:03 PM
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MGTOW live in the real world and the real world is a shitty place. The thing that distinguishes us from Black Pillers is our attitude about how we choose to face reality. Black Pillers are a Nihilistic/Pessimistic Doomer world view. MGTOW is a Stoic/Pragmatic Rebellious world view full of vitality and the will to live for ourselves rather than giving up. That is the difference. We do not see ourselves as poor little victims of fate the way Black Pillers do. We give fate the finger and still do w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:56 PM
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Well now I am confused... You are saying now that you want people to be more and better? Well that is called Chivalry? I get the feeling that you don't understand what Chivalry is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:35 AM
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I'm not looking for a woman at all. As for stroking my ego? Ha! Pure fantasy. Most men are not even thinking that far ahead because we are too busy just trying to find women who have the most basic semblance of respect for a man. The bar is extremely low here. A woman that would reward me for being decent to her? lol I am not looking for a goddess here. That is just asking for too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:33 AM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:26 AM
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Chivalry was never a baseline. But anyway it doesn't matter. Like I said my goal is to eradicate it. So we are both on the same side here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:34 AM
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So many men are walking out on their kids because that is precisely the behavior that is being rewarded. I do not believe women understand men enough to seriously wish to build a life with us. Women just want to play out a role that they feel compelled to play or which they feel pressured into playing just like the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:30 AM
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You are telling me that chivalry is not even missed, therefore any further discussion here is useless. My goal is to eradicate chivalry so it's actually welcome news that you do not even seem to be aware of what it is, so I'm glad. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:26 AM
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Not depressed, I'd say he sounds groggy. He has just woken up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:21 AM
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All men are born with zero value, biologically speaking we are actually a liability! So even right off the gate we are already at a massive psychological disadvantage. That is why men have evolved that instinct and drive within our Masculine Nature to strive towards meaning and a purpose in life. A man needs to have a "meaning of life" which validates his existence. Unlike women and girls we are not automatically handed love and affection, value or any kind of privilege in our lives. We have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:20 AM
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Nature doesn't care about our feelings miss. Giving a man babies is in fact the highest possible reward a man can get in life. Those women at the bottom of the barrel are doing something right, that is why they vastly outnumber women who think of themselves as the cream of the crop. The bottom of the barrel is a hell of a lot bigger than the top let me tell 'ya. In a strange way those women are more valuable because a woman who is going to give me kids without a fuss is far more valuable to me t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 12:42 AM
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And that is why we say fuck chivalry! lol You just totally shat all over it therefore we disregard it and think it is the stuff of thirsty simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 12:35 AM
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Chivalry is not merely being a decent human being or just being "nice." Chivalry is the act of a man sticking his neck out for a woman's benefit or safety. Chivalry is supposed to be a step above being decent. Men used to do it because they were encouraged to do so even if it was just to get some form of respect of a big of moral status for it. Nowadays if a man tries to be more than just decent he is berated with shrill screeching that he should stay on his lane and that he is a complete idiots…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 12:33 AM
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Black pill and mgtow definitely does mix together. MGTOW are anti-Black Pill in case you haven't figured it out. We fight more against the Black Pill ideology than we do against the Blue Pill itself! Nihilism has been a thorn on our balls since incels decided that they needed their own Pill philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 12:14 AM
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Average women are attractive though, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 12:07 AM
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Yeah yeah the sex divide is caused by women daring to want equality. Yeah, nice try. That would have fooled us 30 years ago but not today. Everyone knows feminist was never about equality. Please drop the act, it's just a waste of everyone's time. Also, on a flip note, as I stated, some men associate the feminine with only negative, especially when applied for men. And have you ever investigated as to why that is? I even offered you a few big examples of how women have demonstrablyshown attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 12:02 AM
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Because "masculinity" is just the name that we have chosen to give to the essence of our personhood as biologically men which exists separate and apart from womanhood. It is the name given to the boundary of our personality and to attack or undermine it in any way is to literally attack and undermine the man himself because that is who he is. A man is what a man is, his masculinity is who he is. Attacking a man's manhood is akin to physically attacking him. Men will have a visceral reaction to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:28 PM
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What is the cost of a woman not getting an orgasm? A woman not getting an orgasm is the cost. The failure to get an orgasm is the cost of sexual ineptitude or dysfunction, either her own, her man's, or both. My experience tells me that an emotional connection gets women tut o orgasm faster than bedroom tricks. I know. And that does seem to be the case. Women's sexuality seems to work like a pressure cooker. A man has to build her up for release, that is why women love a ton of foreplay. Men do n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:50 AM
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The most frightening thing in a woman's world is when she attempts to emasculate a man and all the man does is smirk before walking away without engaging with her. Somehow women feel completely invalidated when men feel unfazed from her personal attacks. When men smile patiently and walk away from women we are signaling that she is predictable, meaningless, noxious, and totally unimportant, thus not worth our consideration or the waste of our time and attention. Lesser men stay and argue with he…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:31 AM
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That is what happens when feminists push legislation where mere words are weighed on the same severity scale as actual violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:22 AM
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What I find frustrating is how women have decided to appropriate certain virtues and have labeled them as feminine to the exclusion of men. When a man shows altruism he is NOT being feminine, he is still being a man. A man does not need to be feminized in order for his masculinity to display softer virtues. This is a grotesque misunderstanding and a deep ignorance of Masculinity. Or are we suddenly forgetting that nobody has ever dared to call such men as Jesus Christ or Gandhi, or the Buddha fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:17 AM
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Nop, but we kicked France's ass before the Germans did.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:03 AM
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When women call me a little boy it simply means they are dangerously blind. If they cannot gauge my character it only means they are inept at determining the nature and reality of the men they engage with. I don't giggle but I do raise an eyebrow whenever I see women posting their mental shenanigans on here. I read what they have to say, I ask them questions, I try to understand them first before I formulate my opinion of them. When women engage in these delusions of grandeur I usually react in …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:55 AM
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That entirely depends on why he can't get it up. What is the reason for that dysfunction? Did he fuck up a nerve? Does he have heart problems, is he just not attracted and not aroused by that woman? The reason matters. More often than naught, the reason for having a lip dick is because the man is not aroused. A lot of times those same men that can't get it up with one woman have no problems getting it up with a more sexually attractive woman or with porn itself which truly arouses him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:16 AM
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I don't think it's that. Women are just more insecure because men's own standards and expectations for them have also changed and they feel that they either can't keep up or aren't good enough to get a man's attention, respect, or affections. I don't believe there is any profit in being mean to women just for the sake of being mean, speaking with the truth often hits harder than calling women names. Women who are fat already feel like shit about it, they do not need us to be adding salt to that …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 03:14 AM
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You are talking about the Women Are Wonderful effect. If women's ego was truly as formidable, as their bluff seems to suggest, then Invisible Woman Syndrome and The Beauty Industry would not exist and women would not see other women as a threat/competition to them in their romantic entanglements with men. Something that women haven't figured out yet even though it is out in the open for all to see is that men's emotions and also our own ego is compartmentalized. The part of the male ego that is …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:46 AM
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Such advice is the psychological equivalent of encouraging sugar and salt in one's food because these two spices add the most flavor to one's diet. Similarly, coddling a man's ego is essentially sugaring him up. A man is going to like it and even get addicted to the validation but ultimately it is a very hollow and very superficial high with no substance or deeper connection to the woman in question. The man becomes used to the way the woman makes him feel and will not necessarily give damn abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:22 AM
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I’ve never heard of a woman’s womanhood being threatened. Then why do women feel so threatened by porn or other beauty standards and why do they spend billions of dollars in the beauty industry? You've never heard of it because women have plausible deniability and it is women themselves who invented the myth of "fragile masculinity." You are the ones pushing this narrative so of course you will hide and deny that your own ego is just as fragile and tenuous. Women's fragile ego is just as easily …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 02:16 AM
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Our masculinity is the foundation by which our very existence rests on, so of course we will place an immense value on it just as the foundation of a house is valuable to the structure of the entire thing. Women act as if they have no ego and yet their own feminine foundations suffer existential threats. The entire beauty industry is banked on this premise. There is no such thing as a fragile ego, the term itself was invented by women to provoke men. What actually exists are volatile egos, this …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 01:50 AM
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Pornsick is not a real thing. Just becuase a guy changes his expectations of women due to porn or whatever other fantasy has influenced him doesn't mean it's a medical ailment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 12:49 AM
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If a High Value Man doesn't make a High Value partner then who is the schmuck that labeled him as a High Value Man in the first place? The entire point of being High Value is that one provides what the other person finds most valuable. Most women judge a man to be High Value based on criteria for how likely he is to be a good committed partner to her. The only possible way a man can be High Value and Not High Value at the same time is if the woman in question is confused and judging the man base…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:50 AM
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I said that we become especially angry when women act the hypocrites in this matter and do it so boldly out of the bolstered confidence that they can do no wrong. Let's be realistic though, most of the power to change the stereotypes lies with men. I agreed with you on this in my last reply. I am the embodiment of such a thing: I am MGTOW. But the issue here is that where men are usually self-sacrificing creatures at the altars of women, children, or tribe. Women are not as practiced in this art…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 09:28 AM

It is impossible to say who those omen are because each individual man has his own standards of what a High Value Woman is to him. So all I can say is what a vauable woman would be only to me and other men may either agree or disagree. Can women keep their membership past the age of 25? Yes provided that she hasn't had any kids yet and isn't on any bullshit. Her value to me, relative to her age, is entirely contingent on my own age. I am in my 30's thus women at my age or lower would be acceptab…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:38 AM
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lol yeah there is that but I was specifically talking about how men commit themselves to non-sexual endeavors motivated by sexual zeal. When a man is not getting enough sex he has an extraordinary abundance of energy that seeks an outlet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:30 AM
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The reason is simple: Hormones start to subside as you age. The older you get the less horny you are thus far less motivated to find a woman for sex. Also, up to that point you have spend the vast majority of your life single and sexless that you've essentially adapted - usually by transmutating your sexual desires unto something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:52 PM
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Fellow men, this dude does not speak for all us us. I prefer it when women tell me the truth. But when they ARE honest, a huge proportion of men jump in with vitriol and call them hypergamerous sluts with unrealistic standards and that they should lower their standards, blah blah blah" Only the men who fall short of said female standards make such a hoo-ha about women telling the truth. The rest of us who either fall within their standards or just flat out don't care, are perfectly fine and peac…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 10:02 PM
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You're giving us way too much credit. We really do just want the easy, up front/payable, no strings attached, zero drama sex. Nobody's got time for some elaborate conspiracy to commit fantasy revenge. Men genuinely do want prostitution for prostitution's own sake. Nothing attached. It is the sex we want, anything else is just extra. Anyway, what kind of lesson would we be teaching a woman while showering her booty with cash? lol That she can get rich if she twerk it the right way? That is they b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:27 PM
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What you're asking doesn't make any sense. You might as well be asking why people don't like having cancer or why someone wouldn't like getting shot or having their head shaved in their sleep or getting hit by a car. lol I have exhausted all possible ways of explaining this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 09:20 PM
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MGTOW give other men the same finger that we give to women when they try to act like the gatekeepers of our masculinty. Why do you think MGTOW do not get along with Tradcucks, SJWs, Feminists, incels, Black Pillers, Pickup Artists, FDS, MRAs etc, or with anyone and everyone who pretends to dictate what our masculinity should be? Nobody has a monopoly on the "Real Man" brand. That is the ethos of the MGTOW movement. That is why we cringe whenever the mainstream media attempts to smear us by claim…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:51 PM
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Why don’t they want it? If they believe it’s a privilege for women to get paid to sleep with men, why don’t they partake in this privileged behavior for themselves? Ok, for the 4th time now: Because this is not a privilege that is afforded to men. I just told you that the majority would do it in a heartbeat! And that, as a matter of fact, a ton of guys are actually doing it and getting nowhere because this privilege does not exist for men! There is no demand for men in this industry or in this e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 05:18 PM
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You asked if this is something men would want. Sleeping with other men is NOT something that men would want, which is why they don't do it! lol And again, that market is microscopic and mostly by aficionados who don't really pay real money for such content. Maybe for gay male escorts could be a revenue generating market but we are talking niche within a niche here. And again, your question is directed at all men in general so my answer is a no. Men in general are definitely not into this because…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 08:29 PM
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I don't know if you are ware of this but about 25% of porn is these sick fucks who post videos and pictures of themselves masturbating and attempting to be "sexy" and even cross dressing and shit and usually they end up getting reported and removed from the platforms. Even honest gay men do NOT find that attractive. I don't know why you are still insisting that there is a viable demand for this. You are talking about a niche market that probably has a few thousand or even only a few hundred hype…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:50 AM
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I see what you did there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:41 AM
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The exception does not prove the rule. They are called niche markets for a reason. A guy has as much of a chance of being an astronaut as being a porn star. Building a brand is what porn legend Ron Jeremy did which is why he is Ron Jeremy lol. But no man has been able to duplicate his success and even so the man has never been as wealthy or as influential as the thousands of his female of whom some have even gone on to be millionaires or furthered their careers into professional acting. You cann…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:38 AM
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Because there is no demand for it. In the porn industry nobody gives a fuck about the guy as long as he has a big dick which is pretty much the only requirement. Guys do try to be porn starts but the hard truth is that nobody cares. Women on the other hand may not even be trying to become porn stars yet if enough men like them they become stars like Mia Khalifa who despite pretending to want to move on from porn she still finds it irresistible to turn her nose at the millions of dollars that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 05:18 AM
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This is MGTOW 101 The fairy tale creature you are describing is a Unicorn (NAWALT) who are mythical creatures that do not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:29 AM
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It sounds like you are talking about Love Bombing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:18 AM
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Why would you believe this is some kind of organized thing? You made it sound like it was the latest Tiktok challenge or something. I still don't know what exactly is a fake date? What's that all about? You need to elaborate if anyone is to have any input for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:14 AM
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They still make cartoons now?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:08 AM
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I grew up with the notion that Disney = Little Girls. I have NEVER been able to shake off that stereotype because the whole damned company brand was built on that premise. Disney was for little girls, they made cartoons specifically for that demographic: Snow While, Mickey Mouse, Little Mermaid, Cinderella, etc. All for the girls; while me and the rest of the boys were off watching Power Rangers, Ninja Turtles, Batman the animates series, Spiderman, X-Men etc. Even today that is why it does not …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:01 AM
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Is it possible the the dweeb in question just freaks out and backs out? Never underestimate nervous-stupidity and flaky cowardice when hormones are present. You mentioned this happens among the very young. Perhaps they are being childish? Immature? As if they are acting their age perhaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:25 AM
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I have never heard of this. Is that something the kids are doing these days? Is this what's hot on the streets now?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:22 AM
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Then you do not know a single thing about MGTOW my friend if you think we are anything at all like incels. They are the total opposite of what a MGTOW is. And yes as a matter of fact a very large number of MGTOW are Voltcels. Such men are said to be going Monk, or are on Monk Mode. But staying celibate is not really required to go your own way but those men who do go monk earn the respect of the pack for achieving such enlightenment. Saying no to pussy is not easy, especially when you are NOT an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 04:46 PM
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No, only when the interaction has to do with romantic or sexual connotations. Otherwise we talk about women all the time as we still have to deal with them in our everyday life. Going our own way means we give the finger to societal norms and pressures that attempt to coerce any behavior out of us that isn't conducive to our own benefit. Therefore if platonically networking with women is to my benefit then there is no problem here. It is only when one cannot derive any benefit from associating w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:23 AM
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You seem to have a high schooler's understanding about this. No offense intended dude but you do sound very young and I dare say you're also bubbling with a sort of begginer's confidence - you've probably fucked a girl using your newfound technique or you're currently stringing one along. Anyway, what you're calling "calibration" is in fact just plain old mirroring. Maintaining frame is a different concept altogether. It has to do with Stoicism and a resilient demeanor that does not flinch or sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:12 AM
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Um... hello. Hi! How you doing? I am here to tell you that IT HAPPENED.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:52 AM
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You QUICKLY learn that there is a bunch of women out there that your dick shouldn't go within a 20 mile radius of. MGTOW here. I can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:44 AM
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So you saying I need to be running my mouth more. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:41 AM
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Those all sound like the sort of cringy bad lines that a Stephen King novel would say when he's attempting to write women characters. The last time a woman said something like that to me she followed it up with: "the room is $40 and I'm $100 honey." lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:37 AM
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That doesn't make any sense. Calibration is contingent on a frame of reference. If the woman who is your target is your frame of reference and you are calibrating yourself to the beat of her drum in order to lock-step with her and get those vibes going you are doing nothing more than mirroring, which is a very cheap and very old PUA tactic. It may work on teenage girls but most grown women will see right through your ruse. You are essentially being a phony and women are natural lie detectors for…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:28 AM
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lol Actual business man here. Everything you are saying is nonsense my dude. You are just calling Peacocking by another name.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:12 AM
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Because men getting what they want is what women want. Dominance, frame, confidence, competence, drive, ambition and all that spicy male goodness that women are most attracted to - but play it coy for plausible deniability. Men are pragmatic creatures. We do what works. If it didn't work we wouldn't waste a single neuron's worth of energy thinking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:01 AM
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So what you are saying is that we need to laugh and walk away if she doesn't give up the butt. We maintain frame by sticking to our convictions and if she was so compliant to those other jerks and assholes but not to the one that is kind to her then what kind of a bufoon would I have to be that she shows more respect and compliance to those assholes but not to me? So as a man I have two choices here. I treat her like shit to join in on her asshole club and get the booty that I want, or if I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:57 AM
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Women aren't as horny as men, that is just a fact. Why are you even disputing this?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:23 AM
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Um... no, sometimes low libido is just low libido. That is when you look at an insanely attractive girl who is cute in all the right areas and has a likable and sweet personalty (basically a unicorn) and yet you still feel no motivation toward making the effort to have sex with her. Even if she beckons you with a come hither look. I mean you like her, you probably enjoy being with her but in that precise moment you just feel "blegh." Like in this old Rammstein video where the guys are just so ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:11 AM
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What do you mean by "calibration" my guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:01 AM
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Apples and oranges. Women are not the ones that literally build the roads, homes or any buildings. Women do not move commerce across continents, lay down the rails, or run the trains, sail the ships, send up the satellites, or maintain any of the infrastructures for both communications and transportation on the planet. Therefore, women being checked out of society did not have the impact that men checking out of society will have in these coming years. We know this because in the first 3 quarter…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 09:51 PM
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I know because I am on the receiving end of feminist politics. I grew up in the thick of it, even as a child I knew something was off, somehow I felt that 'women were my enemy,' even before I hit puberty and started to feel attracted to them. Then there are all the men who tell me that they feel the same way, the thousands of guys I talk to both in person and in the manosphere who report all the same experiences. That is how I know. When you get burned you know that the stove is hot. Do not assu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 12:07 AM
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The explanation is very simple: Some women stay looking good well into their 30's and there is no shortage of simps and thirsty idiots willing to take sloppy seconds. Also, 30 is a median number, a lot of women hit the wall as early as 20! Other women are vampires and just never age like Kate Beckinsale, Angelina Jolie, Jennifer Connelly, Cindy Crawford, Halle Berry, Jennifer Aniston, and Courney Cox. A woman in her 30s-40s who maintains her body, style, and employment with a kind personality on…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 07:09 PM
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lol what the hell is Golden Penis Syndrome? I've never heard that one before. You aren't valuable in the dating market just because you believe yourself to be; you're valuable based on how in demand you are. This is true for men all across the board not just in the dating world. You worth as an employee, boyfriend, recruit, taxpayer etc all depends entirely on the level of demand that there is for you, whether it's because of your skills, wealth, physical shape, or a nice face it is all continge…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:50 PM
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I think you are trying to paint men as some heroic creatures who don’t get any bad or low motivations. I just said that I agree with you that men do kill other men for personal gain. How is that me painting men as heroic with no nefarious motives? you said men don’t feel threatened by better men, they feel inspired, motivated through their competitive drive, we consider it fun. Yes. Because it is the truth. That is why men like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Elon Musk are the focus of a lot of men's …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 06:15 PM
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the action of marrying up doesn’t necessarily mean it is woman’s nature. No, the frequency and the tendency to do it is. Hypergamy is a female drive summed up by Briffault's Law. It is the woman, not the man, who determines all the conditions of a relationship/family. Where the woman can derive no benefit from associating with a man then no association takes place. Women are hypergamous because they are more attracted to the advantages of mating than to the actual mate. Men on the other side sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 04:44 PM
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That's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 02:53 PM
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Most men have self awareness and are aware they're nothing to write home about, which is why their suspicious of women. Yes, this is more of what I said in a nutshell. You got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:33 AM
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I see I goofed on the verbiage there. I have corrected it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:29 AM
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There are plenty of men in this thread with a neutral or positive attitude towards being approached Yep I know, it's called being thirsty. Simpin' ain't easy. I am not overthinking this, I am spelling out a very complex thing that a lot of men do unconsciously. Every social interaction is a chance to potentially network, to create connections with useful people to know, to impress friends and family, and so on. Of course, that is why even though I am MGTOW I still keep female friends and network…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:25 AM
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That is not what I said, read again what I wrote, slowly this time. Reading Comprehension is fundamental.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:07 AM
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You flatter me. I will be like Moses leading The Sexodus. lol Side Note: The Sexodus is the former name of the phenomena we now call MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 10:06 AM
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I believe I speak for everyone when I say that nobody cares what incels and black pillers think. They feel more contempt for women choosing chad than for chad himself. They want to be Chad, they don't exactly resent him. a good number of assassination is done by men towards men for personal gain. True but that is neither here nor there. I don’t know how to quote but when you said “men -just like women-“ how did you assume how women think? maybe you are applying your male psychology to a woman’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:44 AM
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Hypergamy is merely the name of an observable behavior among the female of our species. The definition of Hypergamy is: "the action of marrying or forming a sexual/romantic relationship with a partner who is of superior socio-economic status." Self-Esteem is bullshit and it does not exist because it is a concept that was invented as recently as the 1950's that is meant to convey a warm and fussy feeling through a nebulous assessment of one's sense of worth. As the following article explains: Sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:22 AM
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Dude that has absolutely nothing to do at all with what she said nor is it even in the same ballpark of the topic of this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 02:56 AM
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No inferiority complexes here. When you approach a man you are putting him on blast. Nobody likes being subjected to an ambush trial of his worth and character on the spot, so it is natural that a man will react with feeling somehow mocked or attacked. men feel threatened by more attractive and successful men. Um no, we don't. That is not how our psyche works at all! We do not feel threatened by better men, we feel inspired by them! You are applying women's psychology unto a male brain. Men do n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 02:52 AM
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That is why I'm here 😎 Men only have two choices when it comes to women: Approach or Not Approach. I am here to remind men of a 3rd and most Revolutionary option: Walk away! Quit the game, and go our own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 02:37 AM
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so men “assume” women are hypergamous then their low self esteem and inferiority complex towards the other men kick in and end up despiting the woman. they are literally creating their own illusion and blaming women for it. That is not what I said at all, learn to comprehend what you read. I never even mentioned self esteem because I don't believe that such a stupid thing even exists. so when she acts like a decent human being and approaches him and show interest without playing any games he won…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 02:35 AM
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Self esteem has nothing to do with it. It's about self awareness and suspicion of women's intent. The most confident guy in the world can still feel like you just smack talked his mother if you cold approach him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 02:21 AM
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Um... no A lot of men have a subtle contempt for women that approach and chase them. This is why we perceive them to be very low value and treat them like crap because they instigate our contempt in a manner in which it is not natural for a woman to show any interest in a man. So when a woman does show any overt interest we immediately suspect some fuckery is afoot! "She cannot possibly be truly intereted in me of all people! She must be up to something." Thus most men consciously assume that sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 12:33 AM
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When we say that a woman approaches a man we do not mean that she is being assertive as if she's walking up to him at the bar and says "Give me that dick!" Women approaching men means she takes the initiative to be visible to him, as in being flirty, showing interest and acting coy to his advances etc. It mans that when the guy she is interested in looks at her she goes like "Heey!" instead of reaching for the pepper spray.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 12:18 AM
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That entirely depends on the man she is approaching. Such a woman wouldn't necessarily give a fuck what the rest of the male population thinks of her as long as that one man she's attempting to approach likes her and thinks she is valuable to him. This isn't hard to figure out guys c'mon! 🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 12:06 AM
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In this context, Loved = preferred; shown a preference for; catered to; valued; focused on, etc. And that women are given universal preference in all matters of privilege, safety, advantage, comfort, and well being for absolutely no other reason than for merely being women. So much so that men are required to inconvenience or sacrifice themselves for women's exclusive advantage because in this dynamic a man is nothing more than a disposable/replaceable utility for women. No different than a car.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 09:15 AM
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So there hasn't been any studies that shows feminism is hurting young boys? I thought that was a joke. You cannot be serious. Maybe I'll watch that video later but I'm not sure if it's related to this situation. It's about your concern for your brother, that is the only reason I decided to share that particular video. The content of the video is in it's name. but men should hear that they can choose how to live or how to parent w/o being forced into stereotypes. That is literally the entire poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 08:22 AM
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I work for an international corporation and the majority of men in my position are in our 30's and late 20's. We are mostly single, not bothering to look for girlfriends and yet all the women in the company all seem to be married, have kids, or in some situationship with some guy that they endlessly complain about while they look on our Bachelorhood with some immature mixture of jealousy and nostalgic sadness. Men are as free as we choose to be. At the end of the day we are the ones that literal…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 08:14 AM
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Fortunately what I am about to reveal about masculine nature has been told to feminists over and over again and they pig headedly refuse to grasp it so I feel confident that I can utter it here without revealing anything new. Men need a purpose to exist, a reason to be alive; unlike women who seem content to merely exist. Perhaps it is because of the aphorism that "Only Women, Children and Dogs are loved unconditionally; Men are only loved on the condition that they provide something." So men fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 08:43 PM
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Because of this old proverb: Show me who your friends are; and I will tell you who you are. The woman herself will be of a more desirable disposition if the ones responsible for her upbringing show these desirable traits themselves and she is actively mirroring them. It is a great way to know a girl before actually knowing her. It's a pre-view into who she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:16 AM
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Of course there should, but there won't be. It is not in the best interests of the feminist politik to endorse anything that would remotely challenge their moral legitimacy. It is just utterly unthinkable that feminism could be anything other than good, pure, and perfect. It is also rather naive that you ask for studies into the negative effects of feminism on 3 generations of men. That is like asking that we launch an investigation into the negative effects of Chavismo in Venezuela because the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 06:00 AM
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They are long because I compile them over the course of several days. I write a sentence here, finish a thought there, all throughout the course of a day or two and before I know it a while essay is formed. I try being through and concise. And yes I am being concise when you take into account the immense complexity if what I am talking about. Sorry, I don't want to send manosphere youtubers views and even though fringe internet nonsense makes me a little curious, my attention span for this stuff…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 10:59 PM
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That is exactly my point. We do not need each other. All relationships are transactional. If men want sex of love or whatever they can either get a girlfriend or pay a girl for her time if you know what I mean. Women can do the same but they have the advantage that they do not have the same biological urges to the same degree that men do; so women can skip the "need for sex" quite comfortably without any psychological or emotional repercussions. Women do not feel stress anywhere near the same de…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 06:43 AM
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You are talking about a very specific type of woman who doesn't fit the personality type of all women. The woman you are describing sounds neurotic. Plenty of women I know are inept at cooking and instead eat out and enjoy sleeping in and are generally very laid back homebodies who don't even bother changing out of their pajamas to go out. My grandmother always told me: "If a woman doesn't cook, clean, or anything else for you then what the hell are you with her for when you can do all of this f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:48 PM
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Only 2 out of the 5 videos that I posted for added context had anything to do with MGTOW. One video is in fact used in college courses, I'll leave it up to you to guess which one - assuming you bothered to actually watch and learn from them. The problem you are complaining about men being forced to be 'real men'or be emasculated is actually being addressed by feminists, it's calledtoxic masculinity. I addressed this already and spelled out how this term "toxic masculinity" is specifically design…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 07:53 AM
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I can see you're trying very hard to make this a black and white, one sided issue. I don't know how you see it that way when I am doing everything possible to do the opposite of this. It would be very stupid on my part to construct any kind of "woman/bad" mentality or attitude that is alien to the facts and doesn't conform to the nuances of reality. IMO if any man is gullible and self absorbed enough to make personaldating issues into a class struggle, that's not a loss for anyone that they beco…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:38 PM
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Ahh! Thank you, kind person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 08:22 AM
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Trust me, I am the farthest thing from a unicorn. I'd hate to get your hopes up but I have to set the record straight on that. Just because I am not evil doesn't mean I am good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 08:20 AM
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What's MBTI first of all?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 10:42 PM
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This is too intelligent for this place I must admit, first of all. So I am going to take my time not just reading your breakdown but also watching the entire video after I boil me up a hot toddy to fire up the neurons. It is indeed a rare treat to see something of this academic/intellectual caliber on this place. We must savor it!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 10:40 PM
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Oh... yeah. Those are snake oil salesmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 07:47 PM
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We know. Why do you think we say they are full of shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 07:46 PM
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You need leaders and a structure to have any viable movement. We are not a movement. This is why you keep making all sorts of errors. Then you are just useless PUA scammers mostly without that. We are anti-PUA. At least Tom Leykis gave good entertainment over the radio. It is a clowns job to entertain.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 07:44 PM
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The vast majority of women who see a toxic entitled sexist asshole coming to "debate" their claim to human rights, equal treatment, and value to society is to not even waste their breath. That is precisely my point lol. How in hell can you possibly know what a man even is unless you hear what he has to say? This is why there is no goof faith with feminists. They have summarily pre-judged all men and they have an agenda to uphold, to hell with any discourse. This is why we send men over there so …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 07:35 PM
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I think you mean to say that it is not the key which opens the lock but the lock which permits the key to open it. It is the lock that makes the key. Otherwise it is not a lock at all but a door knob. And to fling the idiom back at men you can argue that any knob which fails to open the door is a shitty knob. I'm giving you this one for free, make with it what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 06:51 AM
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Thank our maker that the penis works more like a fountain pen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 06:42 AM
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Just a few off the top of my head. These aren't quite analogies but more like aphorisms that play on words. Wet lips sink simps (Simps are suckers for women's charms, this is a play on the words of the old WWII poster that says Lose Lips Sink Ships) Women give themselves to God when the Devil wants nothing more to do with them. (The RP idea that women only wish to settle after they've had their fill of the Cock Carousel) Your bird in hand is worth the two in her bush. (Better to fap than compete…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 06:37 AM
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Um... why am I mentioned here? What did I do? 😐
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:53 AM

What area of the country are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:51 AM
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Men and women benefit from gender equality. No because women have a self-serving definition of equality. They seem to struggle with the concept of fairness. So only women benefit from what they call equality because if they have to compromise anything with men they call it Patriarchy in order to illegitimize man's fair claim to half of anything and stake her ownership of the whole pie and that is what she calls equal. I am not saying the U.S. is patriarchal, I am saying the country allows for pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:46 AM
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I believe that the masses of more typical people need strong social scripts and expectations, including ones based on gender, to thrive. Hush!! Shhhhhh! If the Woke Brigade hears you uttering that wrong-speak they will take you to room 101 and cancel you! But seriously I think men like me are too invested in the decline to turn back now. We hit the point of no return a long time ago. There is no going back now. We go all the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:15 AM
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There are forums like this one where feminists redpillers incels etc come in and rant at each other. And I am banned in every single one of them. And I admit I am amazed as fuck that I can still post in this one. I doubt a college class, or a club, or a random group of college girls, is willing to have to talk to an obviously sexist, impolite, argumentative redpiller who already thinks the worst of them. When I was in college the Red Pill did not exist yet and I did not take such an asinine appr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:06 AM
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PUAs are pariahs in the Manosphere. They are the 2nd most disliked group after incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:50 AM
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Which people are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:47 AM
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TRP/manosphere has been useless countering this. That is because we are not even attempting to counter feminism! This is NOT the point of taking the Red Pill or going your own way! The point of TRP is to wake up and MOVE OUT of the Matrix (society) NOT to negotiate with it. Haven't you heard the most spoken aphorism in the Manosphere? In a game that is rigged against you the best move to make is to not play the game! We do not play, we do not participate. We are the ones who say fuck society and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:45 AM
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Yes we see the difference. The Red Pill is NOT a "Men's Right's Movement." You are comparing apples to oranges here. The red pill would sooner burn down the whole fucking system than to negotiate for perks with it the way the feminists do. There is an actual Men's Rights Movement if that is what you're looking for here. The Red Pill is NOT that, so you are looking in the wrong place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:23 AM
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People in general do not appreciate how frightening and overwhelming true freedom can be. This is why even in Red Pilled circles they revert back to cultish narrow minded thinking when this is the total opposite of what the Red Pill represents. Part of the Red Pill rage is fueled by this crisis of freedom. Not everyone is capable of being truly free. Some people are genuinely better off being puppets and slaves and they would sooner revolt against anyone trying to wake them up than endure the ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:19 AM
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Your error is in believing there is any sort of leadership in the Red Pill. There isn't, and there shouldn't be. Any self purported leader of the movement should be laughed out of the room: he is full of shit. By it's very nature, being Red Pilled means you must be leaderless. The philosophy involved here is to assume leadership over one's own life. If you are following anything other than your own initiatives then you are no Red Pilled; you are actually Blue Pilled as fuck. Being Blue Pilled me…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 03:34 AM
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The math here is so easy even a MGTOW Monk who doesn't date can do it! If a man actually loves you then the compulsion for sex takes a back seat to his bigger priority which is you. When a man cares he will not have sex as his priority. But a warning: DO NOT shit test him on this! The second a man detects any whiff of manipulation, mind games, or bullshit he will walk and he will be pissed. So how does the sex happen? Easy, he will not pressure you into it. He will seduce you into it. When a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:26 AM
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The manosphere is already aware that women are just defending their own best interests when they seemingly uphold self-sexist ideologies. Benevolent sexism is what feminists call it. We are also aware of what these women actually think about men. We know that men are just their stooges. This is why MGTOW are also anti-TradCon. We see no benefit for men in traditional roles. Head of household is a phony title We know. One interesting thing is women often play a huge role in violent uprisings agai…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:18 AM
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I will give you just ONE source from a reputable publisher and I expect you to be able to think and connect the dots for yourself. I will give you only one hint: "Women control 65% of the national wealth while being 42% of the household breadwinners and still earning 78 cents on the dollar compared to men." If you seriously cannot smell the bullshit here, and how it is related to feminism, then this conversation is over because it is not my job to tell you what literally billions of men around t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 10:28 PM
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I can see you hate gender studies & feminism lol what gave it away? If you studied gender studies in college, why would you say anthropology and those fields have "nothing to do" with gender studies? Because Anthropology is the study of humanity while gender studies is just the propaganda wing of the feminist movement. "Gender Studies" has an agenda, and cherry picks from Anthropology to wrap itself with a false aura of legitimacy - much the same way in which feminism itself wears the mutilated …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 07:47 PM
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Happiness is a very poor indicator of how satisfied people are. A better question is how fulfilled do men feel? Happiness has always been shit because it is Fulfillment that matters. I have NEVER been happy in my whole goddam life as matter of fact. Now that I think about it. But does that mean I have been sad, depressed, or low? Hell no! I have never been happy, but I have been thrilled, existed, hopeful, and driven nonetheless! So fuck happiness. I suspect such a thing doesn't even exists. Pur…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 10:27 PM
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Did you take gender studies in college? As a matter of fact I did. That is why I have a very keen and focused hatred of feminism. Gender/Women's studies is just Feminist Catechism. It is not an actual academic field, it's a propaganda platform across college campuses that is no different than teaching young earth creationism in public schools. Hell, chiropractics and acupuncture is more academic than this BS. These college propaganda courses are ways for feminists to propagate the groundwork tow…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:14 PM
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which implies acting hypergamous, with no moral restrictions at all I never made that implication, otherwise we as men would use the same lack of morals to grease our way toward actually enslaving women and turning them into chattel with which we could barter amongst ourselves. We don't do that simply because it's fucked up to do so. Women who do have scruples don't do as much fucked up shit against men because most of the time women have this thing called "empathy." Women's game is to avoid pum…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 08:34 PM
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The "men just want sex and don't care about commitment" bit ironically only describes a small subset of men. I wouldn't say it describes a "small" subset because in fact it is describing various subsets that are contingent on age, culture, religion, sub-culture, and phase of life circumstances. A guy who only wants to fuck in his teens may totally do a 180 when he is 25. Others may start off conservative in their early years and after gaining wealth or prestige may change their attitude about mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 08:08 PM
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If we are going to abolish marriage it will only work if everyone - or at least the majority - is onboard. Thus when men like me say that "you shouldn't get married" it is not a command, it's an argument. I am telling men that they shouldn't get married and here is why. If you are a man and you make the choice to get married you will lose: Money, Respect, Time, Prestige, and your life all during the marriage. And then when the inevitable divorce hits you, you will loose your children, the house,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 05:33 PM
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This isn't a community. That is partly why I am here - to shoo the autists away and bring back the discussion to the original spirit of the Red Pill. And as a MGTOW I expect this will be as productive as herding cats. I do not trust men who fall into ideologies. I expect each man to challenge and question anything I say, if they don't then they are still very much Blue Pilled. The Red Pill is supposed to be a Powwow of men (affectionately called The Manosphere) where all of our different tribes …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 01:05 AM
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sounds more like "sweeping generalizations about human biology by armchair expert reddit guy, citations needed" lol what do you think gender studies actually is? Gender studies might actually be about the historical, social, economic and cultural pressures that form people's preferences. No, that is called Anthropology, which has nothing to do with Gender Studies or Women's Studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 12:39 AM
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Yes, but that is neither here nor there. The fact that you and him love horses is a happy coincidence if it's not the medium by which you two came closer together. Call it a happy accident as Bob Ross would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 05:51 PM
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No, that is a bad example.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 06:35 AM
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Is it the horniness that brings about brain fog and anxiety? Or does the release of endorphins from masturbating give your stressed our brain a brief moment of clarity? It's Both https://www.mic.com/articles/133546/being-horny-makes-you-an-idiot-says-science https://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/a34838426/post-nut-clarity-definition/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 06:33 AM
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I noticed you added more text to the initial comment. I wish to read it and give it a more proper response (assuming I have one) so bear with me because I need to get off the internet for now and prepare my dinner and night tasks. I will be back in a few hours. Just letting you know so that you don't think I missed the rest of your message.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 12:18 AM
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men don't "think with their dick." Such discipline takes a toll on a man's willpower, not to mention his mental health and sanity. We are essentially suppressing our biological imperative. The body fights back whenever we impose our will on it. Take something as simple as dieting. It's NOT easy. Plenty of men live lives of celibacy, or are in happily in loving monogamous relationships, or date while maintaining healthy boundaries and high standards." Those men accomplish those feats because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 12:03 AM
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Why do you think women who have it all are the ones that bitch the most about there not being any good men in the world? this is not about surviving anymore but a competition to have the highest social rank not by themselves but by using men as leverage" I'm happy to see that men are starting to figure that out. The game ended a long time ago, this is a competition now: The Finals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 11:47 PM
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Not wanting to miss the point or anything, don't some men also do so? We do but men have the capacity to compartmentalize the woman we are devoted to from the hundreds of women that we only want to fuck. Men do trade up though but only after the woman he's devoted to royally fucks him up to where he just can't stand the sight of her anymore. It takes a lot more to get a man to break his bond to a woman than for a woman to break her bond to a man. The reason it looks like men break it more is bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 11:44 PM
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What guys are complaining about is more akin to buyers' remorse. Even after women make their choice they're still on the lookout for an upgrade and will branch-swing if and when a better option appears on the horizon. Yep but when men fail to understand why women feel buyer's remorse they are then prone to making the same stupid mistakes over and over again with women and keep getting cucked and manipulated and just serving as women's tools and getting conned and screwed over. They basically bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 11:36 PM
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Aren't you complaining here about "women's attraction being conditional and only if you provide them value in a relationship"? No. both sides are supposed to benefit and get value out of a relationship. That is the ideal which is very rarely a reality. Why would it ever be expected that women stick around in relationship if there's zero value in it? It isn't, yet men are expected to still provided value to the woman even long after she has cease to provide any kind of benefit or even an intangib…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 11:32 PM
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That's a start but men still have a huge problem: we tend to think with our dick. That one is the elephant in the room. If a man ever figures out how to adequately suppress or even eliminate our horny impulses he will win the Nobel Prize and it will be absolutely the most revolutionary discovery/invention ever since we tamed fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 11:25 PM
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One interesting thing is women often play a huge role in violent uprisings against Authoritarian States, but are less likely to engage in violence on behalf of the State. I'm not sure what that says about women, but its an interesting observation. It says that women are exceedingly good at instigating violence while taking no accountability for it. Most men learn this about women in high school. Men tend to act with their own hands whereas women tend to manipulate someone else to act for her. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 11:19 PM
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It facilitates bonding therefore it is more pleasing and conducive towards survival to seek out like minded mates whom you don't have to sacrifice any great part of yourself to bond with. Nature often loves, and prefers, efficiency, balance, and compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 11:07 PM
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I believe women do the best that they can and when experience or intelligence fails they do what we all do and fall back on their instincts and fly by wire (as in autopilot). Most people work shitty jobs, look mediocre, are mediocre and live unfulfilled lives where they unhappy and unloved. Most people don't know how to get what they want. A massive Red Pill right there if I ever saw one. I don't want to rant but I'm all the things men here assume will make them happy. I'm the same way but I rej…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 11:04 PM
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I don't know about your mother in law's circumstances but that seems that now women themselves are going to share in the risks of marriage that men are facing. And no I am not blind to that fact as I am surrounded every day by professional women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:50 PM
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I am hoping to get men to stop investing and empowering the very same women that are screwing them over.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:45 PM
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Not quite because Hypergamy does not explain how women have maneuvered themselves into totally replacing men with the State. Hypergamy does not explain why women refuse to commit and choose to be single or serial daters. Hypergamy is a description of women's dating/mating behavior, it has no explaining power beyond describing an act. That is where Female Mating Strategy and self preservation comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:43 PM
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Mutual investment has very high benefits and the risks are diminished because they are now shared rather than one party carrying all the risk. But in our western society men take on all the risk and do all the investing and women get all the benefits with none of the risks. This isn't a partnership, it's a scam. Women are making off like bandits. And they are getting away with it because men are asleep and do not realize how hard they are getting screwed over.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:18 PM
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I am aware of that. In that kind of environment those lowlifes at the top of the hill and it pays dividends to be on their good graces from a woman's point of view. For a woman these scum are the top of the foodchain because they do not know of any better men or what better men would even look like. These are the top dogs of the tribe and their biological impulses led them to be most attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:15 PM
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Your version of "self-preservation" sounds remarkably like "Hypergamy, only with Extra Steps. That's because self preservation and women's dual-mating strategy is the explanation for why Hypergamy exists. A lot of men throw around the word hypergamy without understanding what it actually is. The AF/BB hypothesis is a subset of women's mating strategy that runs parallel to Hypergamy and is usually her Plan B when she fails to secure an adequate mate that ticks all the boxes. So I would say that H…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:57 PM
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Women's studies focuses on women in different cultures and time periods. A 20 year old woman in Manhattan is going to have much different social behaviors, beliefs, and attitudes than an elderly woman in Umoja, Kenya." True, but they are both still women and that is the meat of the matter I'm trying to get at. Women - just like men - regardless of their culture tend to behave in certain similar and sometimes predictable ways and share common features across the human landscape. I like to use the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:33 PM
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Men do invest themselves in women, usually to their own detriment. That is something I am hoping to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 08:06 AM
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Very few men can boast of having numerous relationships. The standards have to be low or else these men will NEVER find anyone at all. Women can afford to have as ridiculous of high standards as they wish because they attract men the way a bug lamp attracts the skeeters. A guy that is not attracting anyone and is the active pursuer getting the brunt of the rejections has to tone down his expectations and ground himself in reality. He will take what he can get, not what he truly wants. Beggars ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 08:03 AM
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I don't care for moral judgements either. I am here to learn about reality, and reality has no morality. It's just the facts. There is power in understanding the real world, and that is what I am after and that which I wish to share with fellow men. Women can take notes if they want, but I'm not discussing anything that they don't already know. This is their territory. I am just here attempting to map it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:55 AM
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You are right and I think it's the first time in history that men are seeing women's true nature on such a mass scale. In the past women's hypergamous nature was kept in check by societal norms as well as the constraints of biological and technological realities of the time. Women did not enjoy the sexual freedom that birth control affords them today thus they had to exercise a lot more prudence in their mating choices. Today they can freely indulge on their based instincts without the same cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:52 AM
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I didn't imply that identities had to be thrown away. I said that women tend to apply themselves into a man's life when she is invested in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:45 AM
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My argument is that we need to THINK deeper about this subject and not pick up the word "hypergamy" as some dismissive buzzword to throw aside any further inquiry into Female Nature and become complacent with a superficial understanding of AWALT (All Women Are Like That) theory. I am saying that Yes! Women are Like that. But they are like that for complex reasons which makes women not just predictable (to an extent) but also very nuanced and unique on a woman by woman basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:42 AM
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Yep but I want to argue that the word "hypergamy" has been turned into a shallow buzzword by the autists who frequent these places. It completely lacks nuance or any explaining power when it comes to women's behavior. Hypergamy is just a description of what women do, it is not an explanation for why or how they do it. So whenever I see these guys chalking up their rejection to "it's her hypergamy" they are utterly failing to learn jack shit about their experience. They do not actually understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:36 AM
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My argument is that Hypergamy is not a "choice" it's a basic drive. It's rooted in women's basic instincts and in what they find romantically and sexually attractive. So this whole argument boils down to unrestrained humanistic tendencies Yes! that you excuse because "cest la vie"... NO! I guess agency fails most women but that's OK. I was not discussing women's agency; I was discussing one (one!) of their basic drives - specifically for reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:29 AM
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Where are you getting this unconditional love from? I never mentioned anything of the sort because it doesn't exist! Not in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:25 AM
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I think that looking at the behaviors of women from an "objective point of view" and calling it "female nature" is sexist. How is this any different from women's studies. If you are thinking along the lines of "gender is a social construct" then I am not interested because I do not believe nor subscribe to that political BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:21 AM
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Normal humans with a sense of self, regardless of gender, aren't helpmates that apply themselves to into their partner's life. That is the biggest FU and a middle finger to marriage if I ever saw one, in which case I would be on your side. Abolish marriage. Healthy relationships consist of people with common interests that take and interest in each others life. The question I am trying to get at in this post is why do women specifically take any sort of interest in men. Adapting to environment i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:49 AM
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Red pill trying to be victims again. There is no such thing on this post. I love how the redpill get all offended that love is conditional on both sides and women aren't self sacrificial motherly robot maids to their romantic partners. There is nothing of that sort on this post. Its 2021 and they're still pretending women who aren't FT SAHM are just coasting and not working. That subject never came up in this post. If you are not going to actually address nor discuss anything that I actually sai…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:45 AM
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Underestimating women or failure to understand their nature is how men keep fucking up when dealing with women. It's the equivalent of going into a carnival and assuming all the carnie games are on the level. That you can't possibly be swindled or that they may have an ulterior motive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:16 AM
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Very interesting. Thanks for the link. Very informative. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:14 AM
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A Red Pill is any kernel of truth that has the effect of waking up the host to a greater reality he was previously not aware of. The Red Pill is a metaphor. If it was you wouldn't need to confirm your beliefs with others in the Red Pill community. Fuck the Red Pill "community." Anyone that would ever make a cult out of this thing is a phony looking to belong somewhere. Red Pill is a cult of shared belief. No it is not, that is the exact opposite of what it is. Just because of bunch of socially i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:12 AM
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Do you have a counter argument or a different observation?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:02 AM
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How does that study determine how many women have ever existed in the first place? The study is based on the number of genetic mothers we all have vs genetic fathers and the ratio shows that we have a ton of mothers but very few fathers. It means that a small percent of men were impregnating the majority of fertile women. It doesn't say how many actual women were alive that never got a chance to breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:01 AM
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either way and their nature doesn't seem all that complex. That is man's biggest most colossal mistake in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:58 AM
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Care to elaborate? Keep in mind this is a Reddit post. Not a dissertation. It means I need to keep everything simple and understandable without the scientific jargon that triggers the autists into endless pointless squabbling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:40 AM
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Not all children are planned out, but those men are still providing something to them, which is children. Then why are women not breeding with the nice guys or seeking out the incels? They are fulfilling their biological imperatives. Even scummy men have something to offer to the gene pool. No, women perceive that they have something to offer when in actual fact they don't. When you understand how women's attraction works it starts to make sense why their wiring was bamboozled by a lowlife. When…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:26 AM
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The reason matters if you wish to understand the nuances of female nature instead of this low-brow sloganist/buzzword approach that is common in PUA circles which only confuse men and dumb down the complexities of female nature to single word rationalizations. It is the difference between understanding how the internal combustion engine works to just explaining it away as "it just burns gas." Similarly, explaining away women's behavior a "just hypergamy" doesn't do jack shit towards addressing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:18 AM
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Yes but hypergamy does not explain why so many women are having kids with socially sub-par males such as recidivists, deadbeats, and otherwise scummy males that do not actually provide jack shit to them. These men trigger the right neurons in women's brains and basically fool them into breeding with them and instead of having better genetically superior babies they create the next generation of low intelligence high emotion under-performing losers of society that end up either in her basement at…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:00 AM
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Survival of the fittest. Conversely the reason women look more physically attractive and aesthetically pleasing than average men is because men through millennia have consistently chosen only to breed with the best looking women thus those traits have been the ones that have been passed down to their successive daughters. Every physical aspect of women from their hair to their smaller physical and slender frames their skull shape and facial features, and even the way in which women's hips sway a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 04:57 AM
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I called you weak because you think men are justified in not taking care of their child after they laid down and procreated. Men are justified in not taking care of any kid that they did not agree to be a father to. Men have as much a right to opt out of fatherhood as YOU have for opting out of motherhood. Get with the times. This is Equality! Most men DO take care of their children and are in their lives. That is because they want to. Again, men that the right to choose or not choose to be fath…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 02:58 AM
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If she keeps treating you bad after passing the shit test and asserting your boundaries just cut her off. Make it as if she does not exist to you. Walk away and look away. Nobody got time for problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 02:34 AM
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Giving them rides, taking them out, running errands, delivering food and groceries, out right sending them money, etc etc. Those are called shit tests. You fail them by failing to assert your boundaries and limits. The more you give the more they take; and women do not have the same concept of reciprocal value that men have. A woman feels perfectly justified - key word there "feels" - in paying back your favor with a compliment, brownie points, or even a coquettish ego boost. You gave this woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 09:29 PM
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Because men have this obnoxious tendency to not show a personality unless they already know what a woman is looking for. Then they tailor a fake persona to try and woo a woman with what the guy thinks she is gonna find attractive. There are male chameleons too, and women are just as weary of them as we are of female chameleons.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 09:09 PM
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How sad that you decided to make this into some feminism bullshit. Your child is starving and that’s your priority? I didn't make it into a feminist issue, It was feminists who decided to politicize this. I was just born into it, I had nothing to do with it's inception. All this shit is fun for you online but we’re talking about real life scenarios that happen all the time. What makes you think I am joking and not being serious in everything I say? I noticed you doubled down on your shaming lang…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:45 PM
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Then part where you want to claim a man has responsibility for a woman's choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:31 PM
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You are only aware of a very minuscule part of my thinking and virtually zero of my personality to make such a call. But anyway... Lacking in nuanced and critical thought is the definition of being a moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:29 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:29 AM
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We all carry toxic ideas and issues but what matters is the extent to which we are aware of such toxic baggage and how adequately we deal with it. I didn't say you called me autistic but you do treat me as if I am some dim witted moron who is lacking in nuanced inner dialogue, self awareness, or critical thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:28 AM

Show me where I fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:22 AM
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What kind of man are you? A weak one. Goading my Masculinity with shaming language doesn't work on post-feminism men. I am a weak man. What of it? You should be doing everything in your power to provide for your child. Why? I'm not being funny here, serious question. If you have to get two extra jobs to have an extra $400 that is what you have to do as a man for the child you created. Except I did not and cannot create it! I am not the one with the womb here! You are literally arguing that a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:15 AM

If you create a child it becomes your responsibility period. You don’t have anyone to blame but yourself. Why do you refuse to apply this to women? Men do not choose to give birth, only women do. I'm not the one that failed biology here. Males do not give birth!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 07:56 AM
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but it isn't justifiable to paint all women with that broad brush and to blame the female sex as a whole for one's own issues. I thought I had made it clear that that is not what I am doing here. It's getting frustrating to argue the same thing over and over again. All I will say is that I am not the usual autist that you're probably used to dealing with in this place. I am not stupid and I am not emotionally stunted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 07:55 AM
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Yes, quite the right kind of triggering ol' boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 05:07 PM
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Thanks for that non-advice. I can tell you have never been around actual lawyers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 05:02 PM
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I was making an argument, not a claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 05:00 PM
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Women are responsible for having kids because it is their choice - not men's. I can't be more clear than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:47 PM
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Those are good thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:42 PM
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And I would be an idiot for staying with him though I’m sure certain people would see this as bigoted. No. he cheated, you got cheated, he fucked up - ditch his ass the way you ditch a crooked carnie game at the town carnival. Nobody would ever take the side of the swindler, that is why even in the Manosphere PUAs are hated just as much as incels because they are Snake Oil salesmen. Proverbial Con-Artists selling their magic beans (painted red of course) to unsuspecting and thirsty incels while …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:39 PM
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When you say I am a muhsogynyst what do you mean by that? Specifically what exactly is a meesogynyst when you say I am one? Bottling everything up isn't going to help anything Controlling is not bottling. I control my emotions, I self-regulate, I don't bottle them. The point of being MGTOW is that nobody should know that you are MGTOW. Which reminds me. I am not going to expose my kids to any Red Pill content and I will never tell them that I am MGTOW. I want my kids to start with a clean slate …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:24 PM
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Explain to me where is a guy who had no home and no job supposed to get those $400 from? And why is mom having a kid that she knows she cannot afford? Why are we not holding deadbeat and broke ass moms accountable here? The choice to have a child is a woman's choice NOT the man's. A man cannot say shit to you. He can neither tell you to have his kids or tell you not to have his kid because that choice is 100% yours NOT his. Why do women struggle so fucking hard to comprehend this? Is it because …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 04:04 PM
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Yet you cited experiences growing up as influential of your perspective on women. Um, no I didn't. there's plenty of evidence that human beings are capable of far better than that. I am not disputing that. But as far as we could ever grow we are still just Brilliant Apes, what I mean by this is that we cannot circumvent either our nature or reality because both of these will always win in that kind of fight. The only way we can achieve - and have achieved - great things is if these align with ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 03:54 PM
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That's a funny way of saying a man is gonna get -$400 less on his monthly salary for his own bills, rent, and food despite working for it. $400 is not "nothing" when it means you won't be able to pay your rent, bills or afford groceries or basic necessities. Most rent in most of the U.S. is about $725 a month. The Cost of Living in the U.S. is about $934 a month without rent. Suppose a guy earns that average of 31k a year working at retail or some other low skill job - let's ignore the fact that…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 08:05 PM
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Sounding like a broken record here but, I am not a muh-sawjenist. Indifference of women is not hatred of women. I am not avoiding anything as my language here can clearly demonstrate. I express emotion, I don't bother hiding it. When I have my kids they are no more going to be affected by the baggage I carry than I was affected by the baggage my parents carried. Why? Because I will do what my parents did and keep it to myself. Then when my kids are full grown adults if they so wish to know the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:47 AM
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You are arguing that both parents are needed to raise healthy kids and I am disagreeing with you. Women are not needed anymore than men are. My point is that children grow up with a bigger variety of influences than just mom or dad. Both of my parents had almost no influence on my character. Children are supposed to be conceived from love in a healthy marriage. I would argue that those are actual social constructs. We are just intelligent apes and for millennia our species kept procreating witho…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:33 AM
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who asked for custody and pushed aggressively to win it. To push aggressively in court means you are a person of resources, connections, and wealth to invent into the fight. The only men who ever fight anything in court are men who are familiar with the legal system - and men who are familiar with the legal system tend to be men who are used to dealing with it through lawyers and business networking. In other words rich men with a wealth of resources. Your regular Joe six pack doesn't stand a ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:19 AM
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I like to think of myself as balanced, although people keep challenging me on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:10 AM
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A few token custody wins does not change the rule. Those men who fight for custody are usually those very few men who have the wealth, network, time, know-how, and the means by which to take on the career/livelihood destroying gauntlet of the legal system. Your regular blue collar male worker earning less than 36k a year is not going to win any custody battles and they know it which is why they do not even bother to sacrifice the little that they barely have to a lost cause. Women are not taking…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 02:00 AM
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There is nothing that even hints at a victim mentality in anything that I wrote. There is a difference between not being a victim and not being a sucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:42 AM
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For a very long time I used to think that my feeling of being offended and anger at any woman who ever dared to to flirt with me had something to do with the sort of subliminal shaming culture that Feminism has been bombarding men with since before most of us here were even born. I genuinely feel angry and offended whenever women flirt to throw any feminine wiles in my direction. It's not because of the shaming language though; as I've come to find out. So I'm back to square one. But this articl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 11:54 PM
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The Red Pill is not an ideology. Those who subscribe to ideologies are called Blue Pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 11:49 PM
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Because showing up to family court as a man is a sentence NOT a responsibility. Your fate is already decided and they only want men to show up only to give off the appearance of justice. It's all optics, it's the reason why dictators who want to assassinate a rival give them a mock trial in order to give the appearance of legitimacy to the tyrant. And the feminists who work the court system are professional lens crafters. So of course women are going to show up to court because for women it is N…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 11:45 PM
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The concept of what child support is (paying for the child's cost of living, i.e. food, electricity, water to shower, bedroom to sleep in, etc. ) and why it exists (not the state's and tax payers' responsibility to pay for your child's cost of living) has already been explained on this post. Explanation is not Justification. You are holding ONLY MEN accountable for the financial burden of reproduction while leaving women completely off the hook for their own personal choice to have a child. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 11:25 PM
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It is about them and their bank accounts, not the child. That explains women's mindset more than men's. It is all about the man's bank account isn't it? That is why women always fight for a man's money and never for the man himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 10:24 PM
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How about holding women accountable for their own actions? [Edit] Women's response to this comment so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 10:22 PM
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This is not about the men who don't even attempt to get custody. You are talking about those men who want custody and are instead given the middle finger by the Feminist controlled family courts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 10:14 PM
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You just don't get it. From men's point of view the issue is not on whether or not he can defend his livelihood in a biased court of law that is already holding him accountable and guilty before he ever sets foot in that damned place. The whole issue is that the concept of Child Support exists in the first place! Men are held accountable for women's choices, THAT is the issue here. Men do not choose to be fathers. Women and only women have that legal freedom/right/privilege and choice in life. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 10:02 PM
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Blue Pill my ass, it's called survival of the fittest and if I am going to ensure my own genes make it into the next generation I will provide for the best of everything. Why do you think parents wish for their kids to be exposed to only the best things and the best teachers and role models in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 07:26 PM
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You can be a grown adult and still have issues lol I know, but I am an adult with an adult mindset. Those that have issues tend to be childishly minded. I don't think a man who has issues with women can be a good father to a daughter. That entirely depends on the type of issues he has and on whether or not they will effect his demeanor towards his daughter. No amount of vacations or Christmas presents makes up for deciding that your parent, while they may have been a good PARENT, is fundamentall…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 07:20 PM
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You are swinging the entire argument to make it seem as if women should take precedent over children when women have maneuvered both the law and society to forbid men from the same thing. A woman is just "needed" to raise a child but a man is both unnecessary and unwanted, hence the rampant trends and attitudes of single mothers and the culture that reinforces that only women can be parents wile men are jut an extravagant option. Being MGTOW means I am not interested in women as romantic or inti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 07:07 PM
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Therapy does not work on men like me anymore than hypnotism would. Ask any Clinical Psychologist how effected therapy is on the non-impressionable. It annoys me to no end when people keep throwing "therapy" and the do-all end-all approach to personal problem solving. Do you know why I have never bothered to untangle the mess of sentiment and emotion? Because I actively solve the real world problems that cause me to have those sentiments and emotions in the first place; therefore I have no need t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:53 PM
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I think most of your doubts and questions will be cleared if I clarify that I plan on having my kids through Surrogacy. I will go to an agency/clinic and a woman will volunteer to have my child, I will pay her for her service and then we part ways after she gives birth to my baby. I have no intention or desire to have kinds in any "traditional" sense. Besides, the nuclear family is going extinct so being a single parent is the norm now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 07:04 AM
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And when it comes time for your daughter to date? Will you encourage her to date men like you? lol Hmmm that depends entirely on her own tastes. My only duty is to help her vet and show her any red flags she may have missed. If I ever suspect she is in real danger from a guy I will not hesitate to step in. But I hope to be able to trust her to be intelligent and stand on her own two feet after following my guidance in life; and I hope she feels free and safe in asking me for advice if she thinks…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:38 AM
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I used pop culture as a very easy example. Don't get me started on the other shit that feminism does. I don't feel like writing a dissertation on the BS that feminists do. Men are already aware so I don't need to preach to the choir here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:06 AM
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And What of men who have no interest in procreation? What should they strive to be? Good workers or good soldiers. I hate people who reduce the core of being a gender to how they perform as a parent. As if who you are before you bang out a child is meaningless or incomplete. Parenthood should not be a performance - it is a service. And the judge of that service is both the the child and the parent. Fuck what everyone else thinks. Maybe I should have specified that the one doing the "measuring" i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:03 AM
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It will not be the first fantasy that I have conjured into reality. Stay tuned.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:59 AM
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I am very aware of that and I am confident that my character flaws will not rub off on my daughter, or my son for that matter. The point of having kids is that they should be better than me and learn from all the bullshit that I had to go through so that they benefit from my experience without the baggage. And to go on to have whole new experiences and learn whole new things all on their own. My job is to be there for them, to educate, nurture, protect and help them build themselves when they co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:58 AM
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I will be myself and wherever I fail in character I will make sure my kid is exposed to better men and women who can set a better example.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:49 AM
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You do not need a couple to raise a child. As the old saying goes: It takes a village to raise a child. The lack of a mother does not mean a lack of a grandmother, aunt, not to mention teachers, friends, etc. Why does it surprise you that I take a utilitarian view when that is exactly how women see men: as just their tools? For what else can she possibly see of ever feel attracted to in those roles of Provider/Protector if these aren't merely the mixed roles of being her butler and her guard dog…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 05:47 AM
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It's almost impossible to put that into words.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 10:44 PM
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Get involved with all your other kids as well. Make sure they are well cared for, ask the mom what is going on and provide whatever they may be lacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 10:41 PM
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I believe the point of being a father is to be a father and not a BFF. Don't confuse being lousy with being abusive. There are a ton of reasons men and women do not get along. But that is not a reason to drop the ball when it comes to your kids. Being a good father is it's own merit, to hell with absolution. There have been serial killers who were good fathers to their kids. It makes them fucked up monsters but they are fathers nonetheless, and good fathers at that. We live in a culture where fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 10:39 PM
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That doesn't make any sense. That is like saying a woman makes a lousy mother if the father thinks she makes a lousy wife. There has to be an objective measure for lousiness that is not dependent on the partner's opinion. If a man is able and willing to be a good father this should stand on it's own merit and his relationship to the mother should bear no weight on his relationships to his children. Otherwise it can be argued that single mothers are lousy mothers if the man that abandoned her did…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 10:08 PM
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You sing an enchanting tune to my MGTOW ears. If men had even an ounce of self-dignity and respect, they would all together stop pursuing women. That is the dream miss, that is the dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 05:25 PM
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"No. Your potential surrogate will get to know you. I am ok with that. I expect she'll be a nice person to know. Loving couples wait years for a surrogate. You are engaged in a fantasy. Most loving couples do not have the resources that I have. I will try several agencies and consult with my layers before going forward. Claim you are gay? Who is your partner! I'll ask one of my gay buddies to play along. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 05:01 PM
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I practically helped to raise my kid sister and I'm like a 2nd father. So I have that rudimentary "emotional" experience. Also, I have no issues connecting with kids but I admit I almost never interact with any due to the obvious risk of a pdo accusation. But friends and colleagues have kids and when I do interact with them it is not an issue for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 04:46 PM
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Actual misogyny is when there is a deep and involuntary animosity towards women and all things perceived as feminine for any reason. Usually because the idea of women is perceived to be an existential threat to the self or a personal failing as in the case of women who are misogynists - and I know quite a few of those. A false misogynist - the concept that feminists spew - is merely anyone that disagrees with their own sexist anti-masculine bullshit. For example: You are looking foreword to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 04:22 PM
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I'm confident I would be a good father. Just because I make a shit husband does not mean anything against my paternal skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:10 AM
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Then just tell me that you reject my reality and substitute your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:04 AM
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You want to literally use some poor woman as an incubator without a single care in the world for her. Why do you assume I wouldn't care about her? Children are supposed to be conceived out of love between spouses who are fully committed to each other first and foremost." Yes they are supposed to but very often they are not. Where do you think this epidemic of fatherless children comes from? A child being raised by your example would most likely either become a deadbeat partner like yourself How …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 02:03 AM
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Yes I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 01:58 AM
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The emotional intimacy. Again, all theory - no actual practice. My problem is that that part of my mind is garbled in emotional knots that have been getting ever more tangled over the years and I have never bothered to sort any of it out. If I keep it to a strictly sexual thing I am fine but it is the intimacy where I falter because it requires a release of emotional control and it goes against all of my instincts. I can't just open up and let her in. My mind just doesn't work like that. For one…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 01:51 AM
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I will claim to be gay or something. jk These agencies make it a point not to discriminate by they do screen potential parents. They need to make sure I can actually provide for my child and even though I am single I need to have the income and the social network and resources to raise a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 01:26 AM
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That's the agency's job. My job will be to pay her for her trouble and her time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 01:20 AM
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Nah nothing too drastic. Maybe a just a sharp tap on the forehead with a pencil.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 01:16 AM
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I mean I don't know how to "relationship" with women. It's a skill I only understand in theory but have never in my life ever bothered to actually learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 01:03 AM
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I am MGTOW, I expect men to give me the middle finger over these sorts of preachy things... Kudos to you! Hear what I have to say but make up your own damned mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:56 AM
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If you are not a father then you are a man by another measure. It's like people do not see that I am MGTOW - The definition of being a man by all other measures.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:53 AM
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Surrogacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:52 AM
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If you found out your husband was screwing a bunch of women it would mean he is deceiving you. Plenty of guys are up front about their sexual intentions and plenty of women are either tolerant or accepting of it. What matters is that deception should not be a means to obtain what you want when simply finding women who are willing to go with it already exist and its just going to take a little extra effort to find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:47 AM
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I do not have an issue if the surrogate mom wants to be involved in my kid's life, she has that right. But she better not be on some funny or nefarious shit because just as I like being nice I have the resources to ruin her if she decides to cross the line. But I doubt it will ever come to that because for one thing I am going to vet the mom before I decide to have her as my surrogate. That means I will investigate her thoroughly through a private detective and interview her myself and get to kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:41 AM
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I will defer to the man's wisdom then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:32 AM
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Stop being simple. You know what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:30 AM
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I do not posses the mental equipment to "make it work" with a woman. I am MGTOW partly because I have a lot of conflicting sentiments about women. So I choose to just leave women alone and do my own thing and focus on other stuff in life and derive my sense of fulfillment elsewhere. I never said being a lousy partner is ok. I said we just shouldn't stress out about it as if female validation is crucial to our sense of fulfillment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:24 AM
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Your kids may look like your partner. Will you reject your kids if they have attributes of their mother, or her family? That will be a learning curve. Hell no. My devotion and love for my kids will be unconditional. It is not something that is up for debate or negotiation, and I say that as someone who fully comprehends the slow burn of a life long commitment and not as some chest beating dude who is elated in the moment. I expect hardship, strife, and stress; I even expect they will come to hat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:39 PM
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My post is about what men should prioritize when they cannot be both. Like you said, sometimes shit happens and relations fall apart. When that happens men should cut their losses and fully focus on the kids. I made this post because the divorce and separation rates are very high. Plus like I mentioned, I am starting to see a lot more men visibly taking care of their kids. When I was a kid you would never see a man outside a school. You just wouldn't. Even today the assumption of pedophilia towa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:28 PM
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Divorce? I am never even gonna get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:16 PM
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But don't ignore that a daughter will also see how her dad treats every woman, including her aunt, sister, grandma, random women on the street, her teacher, her friends etc. That is why I added that if a man has genuine issues with women (actual mysoginy and not that BS feminists spew) he is going to make a shitty father to his daughters because he will be incapable of forming an emotional bond with her or fully comprehend her as a human being especially when she grows up and starts to manifest …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:15 PM
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Make no mistake though — there will for sure be times where these amazing loveable kids tell you they hate you for “rUinN mUH LiFe—ah!!" I addressed that. I mentioned the part where they will inevitably become teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:53 PM
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That may be true, but in this vert specific point: No. Doing what you're supposed to do and doing what you want to do is the difference between a professional army and a band of conscripts. It is the difference between a present but emotionally absent father and an absent but emotionally present one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:51 PM
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If they keep to their autistic incel-ish ways you may be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:47 PM
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I am presupposing that the relationship with the spouse has already gone in the fritz. When that is the case a man needs to focus on his kids and not care about her falling opinion of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:46 PM
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I'd think it's better to aspire to be a good person and a good influence on others, rather than just a good father. I believe you need to already be good at the former in order to pull off the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:44 PM
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I am not telling men to be single dads I am telling them to switch their priorities to where it matters. You realize that the data shows two active engaged parents is best for the kids And that is why I am saying here that as men we need to focus our involvement with our own kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:39 PM
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Or I could resort to surrogacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:36 PM
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MGTOW has nothing to do with Fatherhood. Plenty of MGTOW guys have their own kids. Many are divorced. You better care something about the woman, she's going to have custody of the child and you are going to have to interact with her at a minimum. One word: Surrogacy. (My thanks to the gay community!) - I pay a woman to have my child; I can certainly afford it especially since I have literally nothing else to invest my money into anymore. Then, women are 1/2 the population. It would be good to le…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:32 PM
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Unfortunately there are tens of millions of dads right now just in the U.S. alone who are not living in the same place as their kids so treating mom like shit isn't happening because they are not treating mom at all. They are absent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:08 PM
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Hmmm 🤔 True. I have no idea how to "partner" with a woman so I believe I am fucked on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:51 PM
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As a man I ask you: Do you give a shit about points? Fathers do it for their kids, to hell with the points.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:45 PM
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That 20% are probably still in grammar school or retirement homes. That's what they're doing. People keep forgetting that when we say "all women" it literally means ALL WOMEN. We need to specify and say that this statistic only applies to a certain percent of the total female population - that percentage of women who are of of sexual/romantic age and capacity like 18-58 of physically healthy women or something. Then it starts to make more sense. Whenever we are discussing dating it should be mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 08:33 PM
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I would argue that these laws need to change. Because from a man's point of view this is what the panorama looks like You are screwed with a marriage contract for life. Your kids get screwed because you chose not to screw yourself. It's a Lose Lose situation and the wiser choice here is to choose #1 and bank on the fact that I'm not going to drop dead any time soon and leave my kids destitute. That is just a lesser risk to men instead of gambling on the hope that the woman is not going to decide…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 07:52 PM
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I will add that to my list of legal rights that women have that men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 07:37 PM
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Hmmm True. I hadn't thought of that. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 07:36 PM
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Very well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 07:34 PM
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Men who beat their wives are insecure little bitches and shouldn't breed. Lol I know. That is why I reacted with anger. But at the same time we are constantly fed this shit that we are all rapists in potentia. And that those same drives and urges that led me to defend this woman are shameful and therefore all men are shit for feeling what we feel. The constant "I don't need no man" propaganda is the reason only simps jump into women's defense. I don't doubt I did the right thing but that does no…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 07:29 PM
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When they ask me if I have a girlfriend and then attempt to either give me their cell number or ask me for mine while asking me what I'm doing over the weekend I think I get the hint. I know the difference between friendly women and flirty women. I'm not a dolt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 07:15 PM
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Grown men are poor too, not just when they are children. That was my point. I kinda went off on a tangent in the end but my point is the same: Access to resources is not equal. Discipline is valuable but if it's the only way you're coping then you probably have some control issues too. I used to; until I discovered Stoicism. I discovered very early in life that the tyranny of the will only elicits self-rebellion. The mind will simply not obey and of course neither will the body. This is why disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 07:04 PM
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Exactly my point. If yo u look at the literature before the 1960's the word violence did not have any negative connotations. Violence was just violence and whether it was justified or unjustified was entirely dependent on the ends by which it was used. The entire legal concept of having a police force and a standing army was to ensure the legitimate and justified use of violence in the defense and service of the state and in the upholding the law and order against violent dissent. It was once un…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 05:40 AM
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I am MGTOW, I don't hit on women; and I live in a big city and am surrounded by young women. Once in a while a woman will get flirty with me or act very receptive and show attraction seemingly out of nowhere even though I never initiate and never reciprocate. My point is that you need to stop being thirsty and stop looking for women where they are not found. Just by being alive you are bound to come across a lot of women whether you even want it or not. Focus on building yourself only and if wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:57 AM
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You think protection does not entail the use of violence? Is that why Police officers don't carry guns?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:27 AM
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At work, at the park, at walmart, on the street, etc. I live in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:26 AM
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When you are constantly bombarded with a propaganda that say that all your assertive/violent and impulsive instincts are all just "toxic masculinity" then yes. The only difference between me and that guy was that I used my toxic masculinity on him while he was using his it on her. The woman getting "saved" here was purely a lucky coincidence. According to feminists we were just two toxic males doing what toxic males do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:22 AM
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There are no lack of women, you guys are just inept at finding them. I find women all the damned time and I am intentionally not looking for them. For one thing, get off the dating apps. Women can be found in the real world, not on the internet. The Internet is for porn. If I can find women while trying to avoid them you guys can surely find them if you are thirsty for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:56 AM
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I fail to see the difference here. Married or unmarried, it doesn't matter. Men do not get custody in either case and if they want it they have to fight equally hard (and expensively) in both cases. There is zero difference. It is thus better to NOT get married and not get royally screwed over in everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:50 AM
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A man can always just write up a will. No marriage needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:48 AM
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Even so, that is not a good reason to ever get married. You make a good case for women to seek marriage but you are actually further discouraging men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:09 AM
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Women refuse to comprehend that commitment and sex are not the same thing. Don't waste your time attempting to explain the difference - they just don't wanna hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:05 AM
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You do realize he is basically using the same strategy that women use. Women who fuck around with 2 to 3 guys on the side while shit testing those men that she feels are worthy of a long term relationship to see if they are fit for commitment by making him wait for sex while she readily gives it away to those other 3 guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:57 AM
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Cops could not have gotten there fast enough, she was already on the ground and one kick to her head would have been over. My reaction was instantaneous and visceral, no time to think. Other people called the cops though. I consider it simping because of feminism's incessant preaching that we are all that guy who was attacking that woman so I would have to be an idiot to ever defend women. And I do feel like an idiot to be honest. I don't give a shit that people say it's the right thing to do. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:53 AM
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Oh! Well that's stupid. That law needs to change. What good is getting money at 18 when the kids needs the money now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:37 AM
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I still do some simp shit once in a while even after being Red Pilled. The absolute most simp shit I have ever done was physically step in when I saw a woman being physically assaulted by her boyfriend of husband or whatever he was. She was getting beaten up by a dude and I thought it was an unfair fight cause she wasn't even defending herself while this asshole was striking and kicking her while she was down so I just reacted purely viscerally and went after him. I don't care if it makes me a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:31 AM
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He died without a will. The small sum of money he had in the bank went to his kids, nothing directly to her. She had no automatic right to inherit anything. Why would she care? Shouldn't she be thrilled he left money for the kids? Why is she upset that she did not profit from his death unless that is all she ever truly cared about and valued about him? You are not exactly reassuring men's fears that all relationships with women are entirely based on what the woman can get out of it. The old fear…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 01:05 AM
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Caged animals on average also live longer than those who are free in the wild. That is why house cats are healthier, fatter, cleaner, and live longer than wild cats. I'm sure that the fact that married men are afforded tax breaks and societal benefits such as status and access to work in merit that they have to support wife has nothing to do with them living better due to having access to more benefits and resources. Just like a house cat getting fat and complacent. Just as I am sure that the de…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 12:23 AM
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When I say sports is a privilege I mean that inner city kids do not have such a privilege. When I was in school sports were just not a real option, unless you wanted to get shot in a random drive by shooting. Many public schools do not have adequate sports organization because 1. kids have bigger problems to worry about than giving a fuck about grades and 2. Not enough funding or resources to even make it an option. Working out at home is also another privilege because you are assuming people ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 11:48 PM
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An MRA calling an anti-cult movement a cult? That is rich! You guys are just pissed (like the PUAs) because MGTOW do not believe in the bullshit you try to preach and sell to us and we are not willing to be recruited into your actual political/identity cult. MGTOW by definition has no leaders! Did you forget why we gave the MRA the finger when we broke away? We are allergic to BS. We are not a club and you know it! We do not have leaders, organizations, nor goals. There is no structure, no organ…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:53 AM
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The only thing that pisses me off is that men get a lot of shit when we openly proclaim that we wish for there to be an anti-Viagra. Suddenly shit gets too real for people's taste - and everyone starts crying about the end of the world just because men become consciously aware that being horny and unrequited all the fucking time is a form of torture akin to a low throbbing toothache that just never stops. The culture is saturated with sex, so much of the economy depends on it that in fact if a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:37 AM
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Women's pickiness combined with men's desperate thirst is a recipe for bullshit. The solution is obvious: Get rid of the thirst! So long as men remain thirsty they will be slaves to women's standards as much as to PUAs selling them snake oil and magic beans. It kills two birds with one store if men learn to just let go of the thirst. The Buddhists figured it out first. Desire is the enemy. It is our desires which make us suffer, desire is the source of anguish and suffering. It is our desire for…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:15 AM
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You better be younger than me dude cause if it turns out you're older than that is just cringe as fuck. Besides, the fuck does the 1950's have anything to do with anything here?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:06 AM
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How do I answer the question of what do I bring to the table? First... I break the table! Then by saying: "I offer you NOTHING! FUCK OFF!" That is the true MGTOW response by the way 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:49 AM
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Oh... well that makes sense then. They are still chasing women instead of taking a hint. They suffer because they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:34 AM
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A shit ton of married men are also lonely. Sucks to be them as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:32 AM
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How do you know it was their choices and not something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:26 AM
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Are you fishing for some kind of argument here?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:13 AM
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Since when did having an excuse turn into a non-excuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:11 AM
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Nah, she just made the mistake of assuming that just because we are alone it must mean we are lonely. Not all who wander are lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 06:00 AM
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MGTOWs seem to not want gays in their club If by gay you mean 'Woke SJW Leftist Feminist LGBTQLMNOP3WXYSUSPW00WN + - ÷ ' then yes. We hate that fucking shit with a passion. But if you mean gay as in "just gay" we simply couldn't care less. It doesn't matter dude. That is a non-issue and we don't generally care one way or another. If you wanna hang out with MGTOW you're welcome to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 05:52 AM
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We do not create anything. MGTOW is a lifestyle and a choice, it is not some kind of club or doctrine or ideology. We do not "create" bitter depressed men. It is bitter men who seek us out. still doesn't change the fact many men are running around sexless and angry. Yes, and I am telling you that Going Our Own Way is NOT the cause, but rather, it's the solution! Why the hell do you think so many millions of men seek us out, share our ideas, and wish to learn more?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 05:35 AM
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his any better than a group of Feminists or FDSers creating a Wikipedia of M I never said it is perfect, that is why it's a Wikipedia and not an actual Encyclopedia. And surprise surprise, both of them do. Now look where we are. Having info is great but you need a better fool proof set up. Nothing is foolproof, not even science itself. Besides, as MGTOW we expect men to make up their own damned mind with this information and think for themselves. We have no respect sheep or NPCs that merely regu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 05:30 AM
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The basis of what you wrote is not what MGTOW is now. As I said: Just because incels pretend to be MGTOW it doesn't change what MGTOW actually is. Essentially, what you're saying is you want to be "forever bachelor." In a nutshell: Yes. The narrative over there, however, is very "woman bad, men good" and not neccissarily focused on much self improvement, if any. I just explained that incels pretending to be MGTOW does not reflect actual MGTOW. Those that have left the movement pointed to this as…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 04:43 AM
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Modern men have precious little means by which to vent or express any emotion at all. Sports are a privilege, access to gyms is not universal and depends on income and resources. When a man has none he is fucked. Best he can do is keep bottling it up and hope that the explosion from the pressure isn't too damaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 03:54 AM
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To vent their true feelings about their men that they dare not express in front of them. They are smart enough not to bite the hand that feeds, so they resort to kicking other men on the internet while they are down.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 03:48 AM
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Do not presume to have the moral high ground just because you claim you don't hate men. I have seen how you mock, belittle, and ridicule us. When once women used to openly hate men now all you do is make fun of them; it's more effective that way. Animosity with a smile is not morally superior to stone faced hatred. It is only more insidious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 03:45 AM
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The endgame is to look back when we we have arrived at death's door and see our footsteps there. We do not fear dying, we die slowly every day. What we fear is never beginning to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 03:42 AM
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Suicide takes guts and should not be seen as some kind of taboo. Everyone has the right to choose whether or not they wish to remain alive. MGTOW has brought more men from the brink of death than any promises of sex or romantic bullshit ever could. MGTOW does not offer men the meaning of life but a way for men to build their own purpose! If you ever see the slogan "MGTOW Saves Lives!" This is what it means. I have no idea how many young guys I have mentored by now who were on the edge and decide…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 03:27 AM
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We all die alone. Our end game is to welcome this solitude and be at peace with it and if fortune smiles at us that we may profit from it before the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 03:17 AM
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First of all: Red Pillers, MGTOW, and MRA's are 3 separate things. each one by definition would have totally different end goals. For MGTOW the endgame is independence. Each individual man is supposed to have his own set of goals guided by the spirit of free thought and self-actualization. Meaning that each man has his own motivations, his own goals, his very own end game. What we all have in common is that we all subscribe to personal ideals of Free Thought and personal growth as the best roads…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 02:59 AM
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Oh man, I haven't heard his name in years.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 11:29 PM
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We're not experts on women although we do get a lot of our material from actual women's studies experts and from feminists themselves. Since we do not trust feminists to be impartial or to divorce their knowledge from their gynocentric narratives we have decided to create our own "library" of knowledge on women. A sort of Wikipedia of Women so to speak. And just like Wikipedia it is entirely crowd sourced which makes it vulnerable to anyone with agenda to come in and fuck with it including both …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 09:47 PM
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Lol I am in the Manosphere and even I do not try and reason with them that's not what the Manosphere exists for. I don't know what sort of idea you have about the Manosphere but in reality it's a virtual sort of "market of ideas" and an "anonymous theater" where men swap ideas and knowledge (like a market) while also expressing those same ideas and knowledge (like a theater) that they are forbidden from expressing in everyday life. That is why the Manosphere produces a ton of memes, art, writ, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 06:39 PM
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In my younger years I would have invested several hours into researching and debunking in every possible way those two articles you showed me but as I already told you this is not something that concerns me enough to merit wasting my time. I wasted enough of my time in my 20's researching and learning about feminist BS to try and combat their academic deceit only to realize I wasted a ton of my time attempting to convince a cult to give up their fanatical beliefs. I do not waste my time attempti…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 07:22 AM
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What does the mythical character Perseus have to do with the Red Pill? I use the MGTOW flair so that people have some idea of where I stand before they engage in conversation. This way people can guess the basics about me: I don't date, and I don't subscribe to any ideological bullshit. You are not interested in knowing the truth. You're basically telling me that you have made up your mind and not to bother you with the facts. You do not have a clue what MGTOW even is, and you're even more cluel…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 07:02 AM
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I believe consciousness is an accident and an illusion in and of itself. As Carl Sagan said, the raw materials that constitute our physical bodies were forged in the bellies of distant long-extinguished starts. The Cosmos is within us. We are made of star-stuff. We are a way for the universe to know itself. We all had that upbeat outlook once upon a time - that is until the weight of the world beat it out of us. Age sobers up the naivete of our youth, then a dark and world-weary sort of wisdom t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 06:40 AM
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Men statistically remarry more than women actually That is because those men who had the nerve and the ignorance to marry once will usually be just as bold and just as stupid to marry again. But in my experience MGTOW men don't go MGTOW. Instead they spend a heck lot of time thining, arguing and getting pissed off at women. Like if they hate us so much, just leave us alone. No skin off my nose" And how much genuine experience do you have with actual MGTOW who are not incels pretending to be MGTO…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:57 AM
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Women despise you and it makes your cry. That may have been true when I was 6yo. You are dealing with a grown Man now, and the feeling is mutual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 04:55 AM
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Obviously, Perseus, you are never going to accept that because you're part of the cult and so brainwashed into thinking Red Pill dogma is actually helpful. What makes you so sure of this? Why do you believe I am partial to cultish thinking? What makes you assume I can even be brainwashed? And what makes you think you know anything about me that I have not chosen to reveal? Serious question, I'm kinda interested where all of these wild labels are coming from. There's no convincing you any differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 11:46 PM
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That's a pretty good answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 11:25 PM
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Unfortunately my view of humanity is a rather dim one, goes for men and women Can't be worse than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 11:23 PM
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Doesn't feel great being on the receiving end does it? That is like flicking a pebble at someone who has been shot and rhetorically asking him "doesn't feel good does it?" Men who dehumanize women usually do so because they themselves have been pervasively felt dehumanized. Growing up in an anti-masculine feminist pro-women/men-bad culture will do that to you. Broken I will Break, Humiliated I'll Humiliate, In Pieces I will Tear.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 10:25 PM
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Because there isn't. This is not a guy being true to his authentic self; he's following some kind of script from the RP playbook. That would be a phony and I presume women have a natural intuition for spotting such beasts out in the wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 10:16 PM
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To make sure they actually merit a tax break or in the case of children to see if the child is being responsibly taken care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 10:14 PM
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Perhaps you have been talking to incels in disguise and not genuine men of the sort of character that is required that we may practice what we preach. You shouldn't be surprised when conscientious men who are self-aware, sentient, and conscious of their own humanity see you as human beings too, as Dave Chapelle said in his latest comedy bit on Netflix: "It takes one to know one."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 10:12 PM
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Where do you think this dark joy that these guys feel comes from? How does that happen and what causes it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:24 PM
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lol if you think a red pilled guy is that list of things then being red pilled would be the least you should concern yourself with. If such a guy turns out to be red pilled would it make him any less attractive than you already think he is?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:08 PM
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It actually does, that is why I am asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:59 PM
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That is a very good definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:55 PM
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The guy is definitely Red Pilled, I mean, how could he not be? He makes all his wives sign Non Disclosure agreements.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:22 PM
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Racism exists because nobody is intelligent enough or bold enough to ask the racist what is in his head in order that the issue may be addressed at the core rather than the continued failed tactic of Shame! Shame! Shame! Which only fuels the racists' resolve and further emboldens the spectators to polarize and double down on the extremes like a bunch of emotional-thinking idiots. I am asking women what their opinion and views of Red Pilled men are in order to better gauge what is being perceived…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:12 PM
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Elon Musk is also pretty Red Pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 06:09 PM
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You’re mistaken in assuming views have to be “accurate” before deciding to date a group of people. That is not what I am assuming here. You decide who to date based on your personal experiences with that group. How do you even know that the group is real and not just some internet spectre you carry in your head? For someone who doesn’t date, you seem super interested in who we want to date and why. Like I said, I couldn't care less who you want to date. I asked what do you think a "Red Pilled" m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 11:44 PM
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That isn't very specific. Makes me suspect you don't actually know anything about the Red Pill if you can't even specify one thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 11:34 PM
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Finally someone who has an accurate understanding!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 11:30 PM
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