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Yeah cant complain, sales is a good job, but I would not drop the bar tender job (its probably better for girls, and sales has a steep learning curve), perhaps try it as a side hustle.
/r/seduction14/10/25 05:49 PM
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Yes I did (because I needed a job, not because I wanted to seduce girls). The benefits are many: first and foremost, It will force you to talk to strangers, thus helping you break the anxiety of rejection.
/r/seduction14/10/25 05:36 AM
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Get a job or side hustle in sales.
/r/seduction14/10/25 01:52 AM
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I would forget about her, plain and simple. Not showing to a date its an insult, take it as such and dump the "lady." No more future chances or whatever, because even if she shows up the next time, she is not worth your time. Why she pulled that out? there are hundreds of options, but the core point is that she doesnt respects or likes you that much. Otherwise she would have showed up, or at least canceled the date in advance.
/r/seduction26/08/25 06:59 AM
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Yes
/r/seduction26/08/25 06:49 AM
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I would not delve into this issue anymore. The moment you cut short a girl, she is gone, let it be. As I told you in the first comment, build your own date template and put it to test. The one I used worked perfectly for years for my circumstances. Build and try one that suits you, it will avoid some of the mistakes that crashed this date.
/r/seduction17/08/25 06:13 PM
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Maybe, you probably took the right aproach. In any case that chick is gone, but if you can get a pretty girl into a bar, you can get another, so no problem.
/r/seduction16/08/25 07:16 AM
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Yeah I dont blame you, it can be very unsettling. Perhaps she truly wasnt interested and just got angry because she expected food, drinks and got nothing, or perhaps she was just shy; you will never know, this is why I liked setting some rules for myself prior to the date.
/r/seduction16/08/25 04:27 AM
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Its impossible for me to know, because I wasnt there, but some women are shy or awkward by nature; my ex and my soon to be wife were both shy women, and the first dates were just like you describe. I have a couple of rules for dates, perhaps they will help you. I had a template for dates precisely to avoid impulsive actions ; a couple of beers and finger food, ice cream or coffee, anything more was too much of a investment for a first date. This by nature limits the time and money you have to in…
/r/seduction16/08/25 04:17 AM
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You did good, and I'm glad the situation never escalated. You still wanna hit on her later?
/r/seduction15/08/25 11:00 PM
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It could yes, because rejection sucks and its painful. The instinctual response to pain is not to continue engaging in it, but to stop doing the thing that causes it. Rejection and pain are part of the process of learning game, but results should be measurable and improvable with time. Rejection for the sake of rejection its worthless at best, psyche damaging at worst.
/r/seduction15/08/25 07:00 AM
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Yes
/r/seduction12/08/25 07:52 AM
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As long as the dick is good, women will always want more than just sex, even if you are upfront about it. You can cope with the fact by saying you were clear from the start, but women will continue to catch feelings, and knowing the effect of your actions, even if not intended, and not doing anything about them, is just as bad as stringing them along.
/r/seduction10/08/25 08:22 AM
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I always wondered why people let hoes they dont know into their house. I always went to great lenghts to never do that, even with ones I had on rotation (Motel was expensive, but not having a crazy 304 defecating in your front porch or worse, is preferable) Not hooking up its preferable though, it gets empty fast and damages you, better to be avoided.
/r/seduction10/08/25 08:16 AM
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Trying hard to prove the opposite will just reinforce the wrong image. Just let it be, your personal safety and work comes before dating a hot middle eastern girl.
/r/seduction10/08/25 07:54 AM
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You are fucked, there is no coming back from being a creepy weirdo. Meeting women from work needs a strong first impression and slow burn rapport building. Unless she is throwing herself at you, work relations need to be handled very carefully, or they can fuck you up for good. You didnt, now you have to live with the fact she probably thinks you are a creep, and also you have to see her every day at work.
/r/seduction09/08/25 07:25 AM
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Yes, it works like charm if you are highly socially calibrated. Otherwise is going to get you slapped ot tazed.
/r/seduction07/08/25 08:27 AM
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Yep one, a bit on the ugly side actually, but great salsa dancer.
/r/seduction07/08/25 08:23 AM
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You fucked up... Dates should be budgeted precisely for this reason. Men should always pay for the date, If you see the date is going nowhere or that she might be taking advantage of you, then you cut the date short.
/r/seduction06/08/25 07:56 AM
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Because there is nothing in the seduction community that cant be learned by reading the OG books and hanging out with people that actually knows how to get women. Paying thousands of dollars to hear some weird guy spout truisms and motivational content for hours, while recycling content from their free stuff or books, its a waste of money. (I dont advocate for casual sex, much less with escorts) but with the price those hacks charge, you can pay some premium pussy. Is pathethic? sure, but at lea…
/r/seduction05/08/25 07:38 AM
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Both dance and toast masters is a good idea, but the first thing you must is internalize is that little or no success with women doesnt make you a lesser man. Work on your physique and become more social, you aint young, so the pool of good women is drying up, be mindful of that.
/r/seduction04/08/25 08:03 AM
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Probably a scammer, dont waste your money.
/r/seduction04/08/25 07:59 AM
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Shirtless photo can be cringe, it needs to be very organic and paired with a decent solo picture and another with friends (some female if possible). A shirtless photo with some friends, like a beach party or something would be top tier.
/r/seduction03/08/25 06:23 AM
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SIMPS and White Knights suck, but they can be dangerous to your health. My choice was always to not engage, there is no point getting shot by some SIMP.
/r/seduction31/07/25 09:55 PM
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You are fugged.
/r/seduction29/07/25 09:43 PM
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Girls like to have a dude who they know can fuck a lot of women, and many assume they actually do, they just dont want to know. No one likes to share.
/r/seduction28/07/25 09:52 PM
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Yep, why not?
/r/seduction28/07/25 09:50 PM
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Easypeasy is a great method.
/r/seduction27/07/25 08:42 PM
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Porn is poison and should be avoided, whether you seduce chicks or not. It ruins your energy. It destroys or warps your libido. I kept dating and having sex with plenty of chicks, but I was unable to cum for years due to porn (It took me a long time to figure out the correlation, stupid me). Once I stopped watching, my orgasms returned to normal and made me better at hitting on girls since there was no crutch to fall back on. It messes with your sexual identity. Due to the nature of online porn …
/r/seduction27/07/25 08:41 PM
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“I’m 20 years old. I’m 5’2” (156 cm), brown-skinned, not conventionally attractive (at least that’s how I see myself). The only thing I’ve built is some muscle, but beyond that… I feel invisible to women.” I understand, perhaps you are not as attractive as you'd like to be (or perhaps you are handsome but insecure). First, you must understand and internalize that this is not the end of the world. While not being attractive is a liability (I’m not going to sugarcoat it), it is not the end of the …
/r/seduction26/07/25 08:26 AM
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Perhaps a message once or two times, no message also works. Main issue is logistics are fugged, the chances of slipping under her radar are big.
/r/seduction26/07/25 08:02 AM
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Self improvement is half the battle, it will allow you to go for higher quality girls, but you need to learn to deal with girls, otherwise its all for naught. Pick a sexy hobby, and try to date as much as you can, failure is a part of the process.
/r/seduction23/07/25 09:33 PM
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Dont tie your self worth to pussy, tactics come second.
/r/seduction23/07/25 09:31 PM
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I know how you feel, I've been there, and wont deny its very fun to have access to the grapes, but there is no good ending at the end of that road, so I advise against it (also been there and done that). If you want to date women I say stick to good ones (time is money, no point in wasting it in empty dopamine highs). In how to get good women, all I can say is dont tie your self worth to pussy, improve yourself (cliche I know but it is what it is, working out and picking a sexy hobby with a high…
/r/seduction22/07/25 08:18 AM
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Be a six foot chad
/r/seduction21/07/25 09:48 PM
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You wont seduce women over the phone, keep text as a means to an end.
/r/seduction21/07/25 09:47 PM
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You are not failing at anything, banging sluts is not something to be proud of: is not that hard (thats why we call them sluts) and it wont get you anywhere in life. I tell you this as someone who bagged plenty of easy access women, and some not so easy access as well. Dont tie your self worth to pussy, is the only advice I can give you. Improve yourself and focus on quality girls.
/r/seduction21/07/25 09:46 PM
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The biggest improvement of text game is accepting text game is the chupacabra of dating, it doesnt exist, you aint going to seduce a woman over the phone. I tried for years to improve my "text game", it never really mattered. Text "game" runs on a set or principles: -Its a mean to an end, to get the women in front of you, nothing more. This means convos should be as short as you need to get a women to date: This might be a couple of messages on the dating app or a bit longer if you pick a girl I…
/r/seduction21/07/25 09:40 PM
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It just happened; I got into a woman-heavy industry and ended up befriending many of them. Just be genuine and don't try to stick your junk into every woman you come across. This is one of the milestones that turned my seduction abilities. I was decent at the time, but befriending women 10x my skill; it made me quite comfortable around hot women, it gave me a better understanding of the opposite sex, and it gave me a shit ton of social proof. This is one of the reasons I recommend people take da…
/r/seduction20/07/25 07:37 AM
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Yeah I get that, I did plenty of single moms, it was easy sex and some are pretty nice to hang around with. Still, in hindsight, I would avoid those encounters. You do you, im not judging or peddling anything, just friendly advice.
/r/seduction17/07/25 03:28 AM
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This is the big problem of running through girls and why I dont advocate men do it. You are always going to hurt the women you are fucking, so there is no point in doing so, better stick to long term dating and a healthy sex life If the chick is a single mom that likes to do gangbangs with male strippers you should avoid that hole and move to more wholesome relationships.
/r/seduction16/07/25 07:20 AM
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Girls dont like womanizers per se, they like the traits that enable a dude to be a womanizer (looks, charm, game, money, etc.) So they can accept quite easily the fact you are a dog, they just dont want to be reminded of it.
/r/seduction16/07/25 07:15 AM
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Please don't take this as a diss; it's not my intention. You might be a legit great dating coach, I don't know. That being said, the problem with Dating coaches is that, yes, they just want your money, like any other coach. Lets not pretend that by ignoring the advice of coaches we are doing some sort of malpractice, you aint surgeons or engineers, dating coaches are even worse that regular coaches, because contrary to regular coaches like gym or sales coaches, there is no quality control or way…
/r/seduction14/07/25 08:10 AM
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If you are on the apps, dont waste time asking about hobbies or whatever, go straight for the date, you can unload the questions then.
/r/seduction10/07/25 07:01 AM
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No if you dont want to end up in a ditch.
/r/seduction10/07/25 06:59 AM
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As a general rule sure, you should never tie your self steem and self respect to getting women. Buuut, lets not pretend getting women wont make you feel better about yourself, it does and its a big problem, but not because you wont be able to get more women. Also, this play pretend top-g stuff of seeing if the women are deserving of your company is a good way of ending forever alone, as if our farts didnt stink. Its the male equivalent of not settling for less than a 6 feet dude with a 6 figures…
/r/seduction10/07/25 06:58 AM
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If you are using dating apps, always go for the number. Lots of women on the apps are attention addicts and will use IG to string you along. If you meet a girl during a cold approach, IG might work, though number is still the best result.
/r/seduction10/07/25 06:43 AM
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"My first limiting belief is that women simply don't want men the way we want women, the animalistic, burning desire way" Women have animalistic burning desire, that they dont show it to you is another matter. There are women that fuck 2 o 3 different guys during a saturday night, if thats not animalistic burning desire I dont know what is. Its true they are the prize, more or less, and that makes them picky, but not less horny. "My second limiting belief is that women absolutely hate casual sex…
/r/seduction09/07/25 07:02 AM
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Showing unearned interest is a turn off, not showing earned interest is a turn off as well.
/r/seduction09/07/25 06:53 AM
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Depends on the workplace politics and how much you enjoy the job. There is nothing inherently wrong with it, just understand things can go sideways and turn your workplace into a nightmare.
/r/seduction30/06/25 09:17 PM
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Glad to hear!!
/r/seduction30/06/25 09:14 PM
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Depends on the group, in any case be very careful not to spoil the group, and gauge interest prior any move. Other than that, its the same dynamic, talk to the women you like, here contrary to apps or cold approach, you should build a bit of rapport before asking out, how much depends on the women.
/r/seduction29/06/25 09:01 AM
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Wanting to meet and responding in time are signs of interests, so I say give it a try. Always base your strategy on what women do not what women say.
/r/seduction29/06/25 08:55 AM
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cut your losses
/r/seduction22/06/25 07:34 AM
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Confidence and having something interesting going on for yourself, like a sexy hobby. But lets be honest here, hot guys dont suffer the pitfalls of hot women, they dont get everything handed on a silver plater and they probably have some decent personality, play a sport or other sexy hobby, etc. So your chances are not good.
/r/seduction07/06/25 08:04 AM
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My rules were: - No married women -No women with boyfriends - Never date a woman that was involved with a friend - Never romance a girl you want to fuck, always be clear with what you want. As of today, assuming I got divorced, I would add: - No hookups
/r/seduction06/06/25 06:48 AM
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I think you are on the right path, thought I dont think you need much theory (most is recycled from OG PUAS anyway). I tried mystery method and fell flat on my face. I dont think adopting the style of a PUA helps anyone trying to get women, its a money making scheme for gurus with big claims, nothing more; put them on the same level as the sales courses from people like Dan Lok. (Contrary to seduction, sales has actual professional courses and books though). The good thing is that even hack guru…
/r/seduction06/06/25 06:41 AM
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3 times from plenty of cold approaches. Most of my lays were from the apps or social circle
/r/seduction06/06/25 06:20 AM
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Negging works like a charm.
/r/seduction29/05/25 08:37 AM
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There is nothing you can do, women know giving their number (real or fake) is the fastest way to get rid of a pest, so they have every incentive to play your game and ghost you afterward. While cold approach should be attempted in proper venues with the proper cues, its a very high investment-low reward method.
/r/seduction29/05/25 08:33 AM
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I only rescheduled dates with flakes when they asked to reschedule, while it sucks, there are valid reasons to reschedule a date. But when a woman flakes with little to no explanation, and they disappear, you should move on to the next. Any attempt to reschedule a date will likely fail, and your self-esteem will take a hit because deep down you will know you are being played like a fiddle.
/r/seduction29/05/25 08:30 AM
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Paul Janka is the only one that might be, the other two i truly doubt it. Every guy pretending to be a casanova will tell you he has hundreds or thousands of lays, and he will reveal his secret for the small price of thousands of dollars, euros or whatever currency for his course.
/r/seduction29/05/25 08:24 AM
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If you are using your IG as a dating app, or using a dating app, you are going to need some sort of social proof pictures. If you dont use it as a dating app and want to increase attraction of someone you already met, I would limit the posting tbh.
/r/seduction28/05/25 07:16 AM
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If you are driving its kind of hard if you are at the first stages of the escalation. If you are chilling in the car, its easier than in a public venue, you are closer and thus you can play with her hands, hair far easier.
/r/seduction28/05/25 07:10 AM
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Try sales
/r/seduction27/05/25 08:36 AM
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You can know if a girl is shy from the get go, so the not interested in you is kind of easy to figure out. If the chick is shy, then the burden of the conversation falls entirely on you. Try to keep dates or approaches shorter, escalate with caution (but do escalate), and be extremely mindful of body language.
/r/seduction27/05/25 08:34 AM
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I dont know if this is bait, but in case it isnt, you just posted the list of things you need to fix before you can actually get women. Its like saying I want to be an astronaut but Im dumb, lazy, fat and hate math and physics, one thing does not follow the other. Fortunately for you, everything but height, can be solved in the span of months to a couple of years.
/r/seduction27/05/25 08:26 AM
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I don't know if you can't build attraction via text, but I agree overall. Text is a means to an end, it's a way to set up dates, which is where attraction is built. Human communication works on several levels, words are important, but so is body language and tonality.
/r/seduction26/05/25 08:09 AM
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If she refues the drink date, it is still win.
/r/seduction26/05/25 08:04 AM
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Great post. One aspect of game many men forget, is that they need to be very careful who they hit, crazy pussy is good pussy, but it can ruin your life if you are not careful.
/r/seduction21/05/25 08:13 AM
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If buy my book, seminar, and coaching for a limited offer of $999, yes. I can teach you how to pull stunners on a regular basis and give you a chance to compete at breaking my 2000 laycount (no cap, why would you ever doubt me?). On a more serious note, you can. I have punched above my weight (I'm a good talker), and I have seen not so good looking men pull stunners (competent dancers excel at this), but is not easy.
/r/seduction21/05/25 08:09 AM
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"In order to be successful with women, you have to like and love women first and foremost." True, to become a good seducer, you need to like and enjoy the company of women as people, not blowjob giving organisms.
/r/seduction20/05/25 05:34 PM
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If she is hot but a nutcase, run to the hills, You don't want to be the next police case. Just Because You can, doesnt mean You should. Etc. Don't date broken women, they will damage you one way or the other.
/r/seduction18/05/25 05:57 PM
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It will limit the pool of candidates, most early 20 year old women are not interested in older dudes, real life is not the internet. Still, there is a decent minority of 20 year olds that will date older men. Though in all honesty, it can get pretty tiring, dating 25+ is easier, and they are still pretty hot and are actual relationship prospects.
/r/seduction18/05/25 05:49 PM
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Flaking = dump her. Life can gets busy, but unless she cancelled with proper timing and ask to reschedule, you dump her and you dump her fast. Cancelling a date with short notice or 0 notice is a Big sign of disrespect and disinterest in any aspect of life.
/r/seduction18/05/25 05:35 PM
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Women give numbers to get rid of guys all the time. Most of the time, they are fake or don't reply. This is one of the inefficiencies of the cold approach method, particularly in day game.
/r/seduction16/05/25 09:27 PM
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Both. - I do get the feeling you felt threatened by the other guy, and by the loyalty of the girl in question, which poisoned the relation. I dont blame you, your insecurity doesnt seem unfounded. - She was in control of the interaction and was stringing you along. I would dare to assume the 5 de mayo stuff wasnt the first sign of disrespect. - She doesnt seem worth commiting to. There is nothing wrong with being a barfly, but its hardly long term relationship material.
/r/seduction14/05/25 07:49 AM
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Women understand the dynamic depending on how you play the game, its implicit, and can be made explicit during the dates. The big issue that barely anyone talks, is that casual relationships dont exist outside usually very boring one night stands. If you pipe a lady good for some time, she will stop seeing the dynamic as casual even if you are explicit about it, and you will get attached to her even if you just want to pipe her, sex is a bonding activity after all. Eventually ladies will get hur…
/r/seduction14/05/25 06:14 AM
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There could be many reasons, its impossible to know without some context. But if you are ok looking and using apps, you should at least get a couple of dates every now and then.
/r/seduction05/05/25 09:33 PM
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First of all dont take it to personal. While is not normally the case, women sometimes are too busy and forget to reply among other things, I do that as well and Im sure you do, so keep it cool. What to do about it? dont lash out at her or anything, ignore, and text her latter; if she ignores or acts cold, bitchy, or whatever, move along to the next.
/r/seduction05/05/25 02:09 AM
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Because getting anything more than a number close in a day time interaction is extremely unlikely. Most of the numbers you get will bail for sure, but such is the nature of the cold approach game.
/r/seduction05/05/25 12:01 AM
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Paul Janka was a G. "and he doesn't stay for too long to build attraction or anything, most of his interactions last between 2 to 4 minutes max" Why would he? I dont think you can pull women from the street and get physical with her that same moment. Can it happen? I guess, but thats a unicorn interaction. "o the more you approach the more you will get lucky and has nothing to do with "game" or "seduction"?" Game is a contact sport, is numbers plus intention; You need to hit a lot of people but …
/r/seduction04/05/25 11:54 PM
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Why risk it men? This is one of the problems of running through women, most are not tidy and will jump on any dick once horny, so its very common for even good looking ladies to carry HVP or Herpes. I dont know about herpes, but HVP can infect you even with a condom, and trust me, getting the warts blasted with a laser aint a bed of roses. Addendum, once close friend got herpes from a 304, and it sucks.
/r/seduction04/05/25 08:39 AM
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Big no no. Tell her you asked HER out, if she resists dump her.
/r/seduction04/05/25 08:32 AM
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But what would that accomplish? People can always lie, particularly if they are selling some course, book, or whatever. Btw did I mention I have slept with thousands of women and pack a 24 cm dick, co co nuts in barbados, buy my course!!!
/r/seduction04/05/25 08:27 AM
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As I said, looking good is not a requirement to get women, but you are going to get better results if you do.
/r/seduction01/05/25 09:38 PM
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Looks matters more, you cant negotiate attraction. Status is also very important, but so is the type of status; Di caprio gets more coochie than what Larry Fink could ever get.
/r/seduction01/05/25 08:58 AM
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Looking good is not a requirement to get women, but knowing what to wear is a basic adult skill, women will judge you on this aspect, so you lose nothing by dressing well (I do not mean going to a date dressed in a three-piece suit and a gold pocket watch, pls don't be a dork, but wearing some nice jeans, shirt, and shoes go far beyond than a d&d shirt stained with Doritos)
/r/seduction01/05/25 08:52 AM
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I dont think the posts exist anymore
/r/seduction01/05/25 08:43 AM
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Building an abundance mindset, by dating (not sleeping with, I dont advise this) a lot of women. The best way to overidealize women is to deal with a lot of women.
/r/seduction29/04/25 08:22 AM
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Its a lottery where you can increase your odds with skill and looks.
/r/seduction25/04/25 07:00 AM
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Talk to her about art then ask for a date.
/r/seduction21/04/25 09:05 AM
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Find an activity where you are forced to talk and interact with women without trying to fuck em, dance classes are my go to advice, but you cand look something more to your liking.
/r/seduction21/04/25 09:03 AM
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This was my experience in a nutshell. I did lots of cold approaches during my college years after reading all the PUA material available back then (circa 2006-2008). Im not a bad looking guy, but was socially inept back then, so my results where pretty bad (I manage to get a couple of girls during the whole college years, lots of numbers (useless waste of SIM card space since most were fake, and plenty of disapointment). My dating life was saved by dating apps, (it was hit or miss, but I was get…
/r/seduction21/04/25 08:51 AM
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Social circle game is the best method, by far. It takes time to build a social circle that allows you to meet women, but it gives the best results both in closing rates and the quality of women. It also has the added benefit of giving you a social life outside dating, and allows you to see women as more than objects (which will increase your charm during dates)
/r/seduction21/04/25 08:41 AM
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This is not an argument against apps, while the dinamic is true, the number thing applies to real life as well. Hot women get a lot of attention, and even if you manage to approach, get a number or whatever, the odds she is going to forget about you are very very high. She has 8k messages on the apps, but also 8k messages on IG and 8k messages on the phone, plus calls, from coworkers hitting them, etc.
/r/seduction12/04/25 08:37 AM
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Dating at its core its similar to sales, numbers matter, after all you need a full pipeline to close, but closing is a matter of skill not luck.
/r/seduction12/04/25 08:33 AM
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While dating apps do have a fucked up man to woman ratio and are filled with working girls, the fact of the matter is that whatever is keeping you from getting results on the apps will keep you from getting results on the streets. From what I've read, you seem to be struggling with women, this wont change if you move from apps to cold openers, it might even get worse. I've been where you are, improve yourself and lower your standards for a time at least; its very hard to be thirsty and confident…
/r/seduction12/04/25 08:28 AM
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I did it mainly through apps and social circle, never been a fan of night or day game. I had a policy of one or two dates before sex, after that it takes time, a girl with the proper mindset, and honesty to nurture the relationship to a point where they enjoy your company but understand the relationship is casual; during this process most dates were just sex, the rest some fun activity (dining, movies, drinking, etc,) plus sex either prior or after the activity. Also I didnt do it every week bec…
/r/seduction11/04/25 09:09 AM
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I would not do it, is not worth the curse of doing a married chick, open relationship or not.
/r/seduction11/04/25 08:56 AM
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Because who doesnt? its easy and usually very good sex. The problem? Is that the constant dopamine rush of running through 304's will affect your pair bonding, get you into weird situations since easy pussy is the most expensive, and will ruin your virtue. Not catching feelings is hard but doable, but you have to get into kind of a psychopatic mindset (which is pretty bad for you), because contrary to what you mention, a lot of easy girls do catch feelings if you fuck them good. You should think…
/r/seduction21/03/25 02:05 AM
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Most content is unrealiable, since 98% of the seduction gurus are bullshit artists. But here is some advice: Books: The game is ok if you want to start somewhere, (Neil has a decent pen and most of the books out there are derivatives). You aint going to become a seduction master after reading a book, nor you should apply the method to letter. Youtube: I would avoid. Courses, workshops or masterclasses: HELL NO!!!! most seduction gurus are bullshit artists. Practice: This is the best way to do it…
/r/seduction11/03/25 02:12 AM
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It probably is, but even if it isnt, night game at bars is pretty damn hard and ineffective. You can talk to dudes with a 99% rejection rate that manage to pick a girl every winter solstice. There are some good night game players out there, but I think 90% or higher is accurate.
/r/seduction24/02/25 08:07 AM
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This should be the end goal of game. Banging broads for the sake of banging broads is an excercise in futility, and should be avoided.
/r/seduction18/02/25 07:02 AM
1

Did you had success doing this? What event did you frequent? AVN?
/r/seduction17/02/25 05:49 PM
1

Its very simple if you escalated properly
/r/seduction14/02/25 08:46 AM
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If she is set on going to the cinema go, but try to get some drinks after the movie. Movie dates are not great, there is very little chance to escalate.
/r/seduction14/02/25 08:44 AM
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Thankfully no, and I dont want to; but if its your cup of tea I can see the logic in it. I imagine less known models get much less attention, and are more casual with their interactions than the pro's, as it happens in any other type of business event.
/r/seduction14/02/25 08:38 AM
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If she gets angry at your cocky-funny routine you fucked up.
/r/seduction14/02/25 08:23 AM
2

If you want car sex without going to a date, you pick up a hooker and pay her to suck your dick, then inject some penicilin and pray your dick dick doesnt fall off.
/r/seduction14/02/25 08:19 AM
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Chat GPT is not wrong Self-Improveme nt – Stay fit, dress well, and work on confidence. Social Circle Growth – Build connections that naturally lead to meeting women. Frequent the Right Places – Go to environments where high-quality women hang out. Be Approachable – Smile, make eye contact, and start conversations casually.
/r/seduction14/02/25 08:16 AM
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Is not the best idea. Women dont mind having sex with unemployed people as long as they are handsome, lay down some good pipe, or give her the tingles in some other way (a broke guitar player for example). That being said, you should get your life in order, I believe in seduction to improve the lives of men so they can find a decent partner. Improving your life begins with getting your finances and personal life in order, getting pussy is way up in the needs pyramid.
/r/seduction10/02/25 07:11 AM
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You dont, there are no second chances.
/r/seduction05/02/25 07:51 AM
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Cold approach works, but its a very ineffective method
/r/seduction03/02/25 07:44 AM
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If girls are liking you on the apps and accepting to go on a date with you it means you are doing something right. I used to get plenty of dates from bumble and I was very good at getting intimate with the ladies (Im not proud of it now but that is another story). My guide. - Choose a non expensive venue where you can talk and escalate. My venue of choice was always an english style pub; it was cheap (I paid for one or two rounds of beer and some chips, nothing more) and this particular pub wasn…
/r/seduction31/01/25 09:06 AM
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If you see signs and want to date a coworker ask her out
/r/seduction31/01/25 08:29 AM
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Dance class
/r/seduction31/01/25 08:27 AM
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Seduction principles apply to every woman, if the lady you are dating is not sexually open because of principles, then you need to control the escalation (you still need to escalate though). Also, lots of girls present themselves as "good girl" and are more sexually open than you would initially assume.
/r/seduction31/01/25 08:23 AM
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I agree. I would add a caveat from my experience dating and being a player. You should always keep your options open if you are dating and threading new grounds. What Jonnieboi said is true keeping women on a rooster will improve your frame and your overall dating experience; flaking, rejection, etc., matter little because you always have someone to see or date, and even if you don't, your confidence will grow to a point where you act like do, because you know you can do it. The caveat is that y…
/r/seduction26/01/25 08:50 PM
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Being quiet and being boring are different things, I'm quiet, but I can hold a conversation very well and make girls laugh without much effort. If a girl is talkative and likes to laugh, its literally the easiest date possible.
/r/seduction25/01/25 08:03 AM
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Speaking from my own experience, I never texted a chick after the date or the day after, I waited for her message or texted her 2 or 3 days later. This never failed after I kissed a girl. So in my mind is either your text or the dates are not going as good as you think.
/r/seduction24/01/25 07:02 AM
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What are you texting or doing after the date? It happened once or is it a recurring problem? "I am pretty sure" Escalating more doesn't mean ONS, you can go to the car after the date and make out, finger her, get blown, or fuck her and keep seeing her; girls that want to get intimate and gets blue balled will hate your guts.
/r/seduction24/01/25 06:55 AM
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It's not the best place for a date, but if you do good groundwork during dinner, you can dance with her and get physical quite easy.
/r/seduction24/01/25 06:48 AM
1

Its a hurdle? for sure. Its and unsurmountable one? no
/r/seduction24/01/25 06:45 AM
1

Yes you are wasting your time
/r/seduction24/01/25 06:44 AM
1

You dont tell a girl you want to hook up, the fact they are on the app tells you all you need to know, just be cool and ask for dates.
/r/seduction24/01/25 06:41 AM
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Go to therapy
/r/seduction24/01/25 06:39 AM
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If a girl lets you kiss it means you are doing something right, but sometimes one can try to kiss and get rejected or make the girl uncomfortable by being perceived as pushy, creepy, or whatever, kino is good to pave the way for an organic sexy kiss. But even if a kiss is rejected or not welcomed, it is not necessarily a reason for failure, if the girls like you, they will let it slide, if they don't maybe the date is not going as peachy as you thought. Another possibility is that she wanted you…
/r/seduction24/01/25 06:38 AM
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Timing is one of the most if not the most important aspect of seduction, when and where to seduce a girl is a cornerstone skill, its the difference between getting a girl into bed or getting into the HR office or a Pua cringe video.
/r/seduction24/01/25 06:27 AM
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Motels
/r/seduction22/01/25 12:25 AM
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Pay the first, keep it cheap.
/r/seduction22/01/25 12:23 AM
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Girls are very hot, med women and nordic women are the sexiest by far, nightlife is amazing but the dating market is hard.
/r/seduction18/01/25 10:55 PM
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Bumble works quite well
/r/seduction18/01/25 10:53 PM
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She is a goner, I would steer clear from that one because even if you get a second date its probably going to be disappointing.
/r/seduction17/01/25 08:25 AM
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Yep, the woke feminist movement was also on the rise by the early 2010s, that didnt help either. A shame really.
/r/seduction17/01/25 06:33 AM
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Not that I know of, the community collapsed in the mid 2010's.
/r/seduction17/01/25 02:03 AM
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"I was wondering how you can create more comfort and rapport with women" This is the big problem with the cold approach method, it is challenging to create comfort and rapport in milliseconds it takes a woman to reject you out of distrust unless you are handsome and charismatic. If you are small, or not very good-looking, you are facing a similar situation with dating apps, but worse, because Bumble and Hinge don't require you to get your butt out of the couch. The solutions to the trust wall pr…
/r/seduction16/01/25 01:36 AM
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Family, work, dreams, goals, places she has traveled or would like to travel to, worst dates, what would you do with x amount of money, favorite movies or music, what are here green flags/red flags, zodiac bullshit, and if the situation allows it, you may ask something kinkier.
/r/seduction16/01/25 01:16 AM
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I dont text before a date, only to confirm the appointment but the 25th is a long time for a date, so maybe here and there; something funny, or short convos, unless she is the one seeking to talk.
/r/seduction16/01/25 01:11 AM
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Never tried it, always wanted to.
/r/seduction15/01/25 06:58 AM
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Of course, you did, this is the common result for cold approaches. I don't know why the seduction community is so fixed on this aspect of the game, it's extremely wasteful and highly dependent on looks; it's the same dynamic of dating apps, but it takes hours and you feel like shit afterward 98% of the time.
/r/seduction15/01/25 06:54 AM
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Yes, they can smell it like a bloodhound. How do you get over it? the easiest way is to lower your standards for a while
/r/seduction15/01/25 06:44 AM
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I dunno, I been there done that, I also know plenty of people who been there done that, and since my discovery of the seduction community in 2006, I have only met one person that was truly good doing cold approaches; most including myself were losers that wasted hundreds of hours and lots of money getting rejected 98% of the time and getting women the other 2% of the time, which served as confirmation bias. The funny thing is I actually got good at getting women by befriending a natural in colle…
/r/seduction14/01/25 08:24 AM
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A classic prickteaser, if she aint willing to kiss you, she aint willing to give you the cooch.
/r/seduction14/01/25 07:45 AM
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You get more dates by talking to a lot of women, dating apps matches have a funnel performance, a lot of your matches will flake, ghost, etc, you need lots of matches to get a decent amount of dates. The consciously crafted messages go in the date not in the app.
/r/seduction14/01/25 07:35 AM
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"What are your takes on approaching and seducing very beautiful women? Do you all feel like maybe effort would be better spent interacting with less attractive women who are more down to earth with expectations and standards." Is it worth approaching them? Depends, if I had to restart my dating journey I would not do it, because even though I can and have seduced 9's, I would not have casual sex in 2025 coz I think is evil, also I dont have the patience to deal with all the hassles of dating suc…
/r/seduction14/01/25 07:27 AM
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What app are you using?
/r/seduction13/01/25 08:54 AM
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"Always ask for a date asap" This is the way
/r/seduction13/01/25 08:53 AM
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Nothing turns off a women more than wanting to get fucked and the guy not taking a hint, also never lie dude, the truth always comes out.
/r/seduction13/01/25 08:51 AM
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You did well, you took rejection with grace and left; no begging, getting angry or other cringe response. Tension and awkwardness wont go away, no one likes to be rejected.
/r/seduction13/01/25 08:48 AM
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"will be mean to me" I have the same fear. In any case approaching groups is best done with a group of your own, preferably a group with both women and men.
/r/seduction13/01/25 08:46 AM
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Rizz is hard, you need to enjoy the company of women to improve this aspect. Befriending women is a good way to improve your rizz, dating is also very good, it takes a lot of practice but its worth it. I used to talk to women like Mclovin at the beginning of superbad movie and now Im a silver tongue devil, it took me a decade dating plenty of women and working and befriending a lot of women in the real estate industry.
/r/seduction13/01/25 08:43 AM
2

One of the skills needed to run smooth game its called understanding your enviroment, what happened to your friend can happen to anyone, not just in the metoo aspect but in other reputation shattering scenarios. You should not fear communicating sexual interest, but you need to pick your battles very carefully and keep your conquests private; a gentleman doesnt kiss and tell, this not only protects her reputation, but yours.
/r/seduction13/01/25 08:34 AM
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Daygame sucks, can you make it work? Yes, but its ineffective and can become outright dangerous to your health or reputation. Rejection rates are very hight, there is a reason Youtube is filled with cringe videos of weirdos getting nuked by women.
/r/seduction13/01/25 08:22 AM
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Never tried that, wanted to but never did, I do think it works.
/r/seduction11/01/25 04:24 PM
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Europe is dating on very hard men, I been to spain and while I had some success, it came at a much slower and harder pace. They are spoiled for choice, men are good looking, and at least in spain, women socialize in closed groups, which makes approaching them very hard unless you take time building a social circle, something very hard as a foreigner since you are just visiting.
/r/seduction11/01/25 09:24 AM
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Go with the flow or adress it, women dont mind, quite the oposite.
/r/seduction11/01/25 09:20 AM
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"And also how should i make sure she is loved and not used during sex (ykwim)" Do you like her and love her? this is how yo do it, women have very high EQ, they notice. Just go and have a good time, if you put to much thought into it you will get nervous, your dick will get flabby and then its good night irene.
/r/seduction11/01/25 09:18 AM
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Rapport building and communication are skills to be learned, you need to do it, learn from your mistakes and then do it again. You cant do this through text though, text is an appointment setting tool, not a talking tool, at least with regard to women. A good rule for talking to women is active listening and learning to lead the conversation, think about some interesting topics that can be used to flirt and escalate (worst dates, travel, pets, work, goals, red/green flags, etc) It takes time to …
/r/seduction11/01/25 09:16 AM
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The first rule in dating is women are not objects, women are people, im not going for some blue haired bitter feminist weirdo shit here, but this is important to understand. Trust me when I tell you not everyone wants to be with beautiful women, everyone think they want until they get their wish. Hot women, 9's and 10's, plus many of the 8's, are a headache; they are very hard to get and very hard to retain; they have big egos, its to a large degree pay to play (you can seduce them allright, but…
/r/seduction11/01/25 09:08 AM
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In my experience (which is mainly bumble and tinder) is not. Tinder never worked for me, paid or unpaid. Bumble works well unpaid, you get most of your matches in the first three days of opening the account (at least thats how it was). Take a few more days to swipe and find your matches, delete profile, wait for a few weeks then repeat. I got more dates this way than by paying Premium.
/r/seduction11/01/25 08:56 AM
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True, if you want to get women via dance you cant fake it, you need to learn to like it, and keep your dance group as Friends only.
/r/seduction07/01/25 11:55 PM
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It really depends on the situation, you need to feel and analize every situation, byut my rule of thumb is playing the dial clock game, always be a dial behind in terms of interest
/r/seduction07/01/25 08:41 AM
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Im the same, I hate talking on the phone, good thing is you dont need to. I used the phone to set and confirm dates and thats it.
/r/seduction07/01/25 08:36 AM
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Sometimes things dont work and there is nothing you cant do about it, perhaps you fumbled the bag along the way. I have a doubt, you kissed during the second date right? why you didnt escalate further? Nothing turns off a women more than wanting to get fuckd and the guy not taking notice.
/r/seduction07/01/25 08:33 AM
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Its over dude!!!
/r/seduction07/01/25 08:29 AM
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dance lessons and dance events.
/r/seduction07/01/25 08:25 AM
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This is true, looks are used as an excuse for poor use of the apps. Of course looks play a big part on dating apps, but they also play a big part in social dating, and a massive part (bigger than in apps in my personal opinion) during cold approach at night or day game. Of course having a swimmer body with adonis face while driving a lambo is always going to get you more women, but you can still get ok results without them.
/r/seduction07/01/25 08:17 AM
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I used a picture of myself and some real estate agent colleagues (most of them very hot) after a party and the results were very good; the photo was real not staged, I enjoy the non sexual company of said women and they enjoy mine, this was noticeable the picture. I tested profiles with or without the picture, and the picture with the hot women generated far more likes by a large margin.
/r/seduction07/01/25 08:13 AM
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Addendum: dancing is fun and alpha as fuck, since it shows a lot of dominance, you will learn why if you do go to lessons. It also a great conversation topic for women in regular bars, all women like to dance and love a guy that can dance.
/r/seduction05/01/25 05:03 PM
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Yes, also the moment you go to lessons, You find out there are plenty of places; bars and clubs where you can dance and meet people. It also has the added benefit that it get you used to talk and be around hot women, which has a lot of benefits to your game.
/r/seduction05/01/25 04:59 PM
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Should I even bother trying to seduce her ?Should I even bother trying to seduce her ? It depends dude, virgins or women that truly refrain from sex with dudes they like are rare. But assuming she is one of the rare ones, the first thing you need to ask yourself is what you want to do with your love life, is having sex a requirement? also ask yourself why you want to seduce her? While fun, being a playboy is fundamentally evil, it always hurts women, and if she has a conviction against getting p…
/r/seduction05/01/25 08:59 AM
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Nothing
/r/seduction05/01/25 08:44 AM
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Dance club; salsa, bachata, country, or whatever
/r/seduction05/01/25 08:41 AM
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"My real question is what motivated you?" I sucked with women. During highschool and the first two years of college I was a virgin and had only kissed one girl in my life, a girlfriend I got for a couple of weeks before she cheated on me with some ugly ass motherfucker. Despite being goodlooking, I was a dork, shy, and could not held a conversation with women without turning into a nervous wreck while talking about the most retarded shit due to nerves (lizards for example, I know it sounds retar…
/r/seduction05/01/25 08:39 AM
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Yes just delete your account and activate it again after a month, i tried this method on shorter time frames and it didnt worked as well, who knows why. Also, big disclaimer, this is not a substitute for lack of game and lack of looks, this is only a method I used to get dates from the app. Get some good photos, I used one with girls (I work in Real Estate so I go to plenty of social events with hot women friends and coworkers, this worked great as social proof) I used another picture of me and …
/r/seduction04/01/25 04:49 PM
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"I’ve gone on over 80 first dates in my life and I’ve only been stood up once." This is true, when you actually know what you are doing, women rarely flake.
/r/seduction04/01/25 09:24 AM
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Girls dont always flake, they only do so when you cant hook them, still its shitty behaviour, and its true, the risk is always there. But flaking on a women because you want to look alfa is scumbag behaviour, its shitty when women do it and shitty when men do it. First learn to use an agenda, never set a date when you already have another activity scheduled,, also, if a girl flakes without a valid reason, dump her and call someone you have already met for a date (its almost 100% sure sex if you …
/r/seduction04/01/25 09:23 AM
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Most of the time it fails, sometimes its worth it though, depends on the situation.
/r/seduction04/01/25 09:13 AM
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"I wonder if maybe it’s a conversation problem where I’m either too enthusiastic or too boring, but regardless of how I change the way I message, I can’t seem to please anyone lol." Women on apps will always flake and a lot of times is not even your fault. I did well on bumble, and I matched several times with women, who flaked and then I ended up meeting and having sex with later. I kept recycling my account every month or so to reset the likes and get the new guy boost the app gives you to hoo…
/r/seduction04/01/25 09:10 AM
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Must seduction books are sales books for geeks, I know because I was one and read everything published from 2006 till the death of PUA around the 2010's, I have also read a shitload of sales books, since its my job, and trust me, they are the same shit but with dork concepts. If you want to read something, read the game by Neil Strauss or the mistery method, most PUA content is a derivative from those two. If you want something more down to earth, join activities where women gather and your SEXQ…
/r/seduction02/01/25 10:08 PM
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"I did not know what to do next. I was angling a threesome." ROFL "What should I do differently?" Not angle from threesomes with girls who disliked your guts to begin with. Being a pest. Flesh and blood interactions aint dating apps, you dont go for the kill right from the start, you need to build a bit of trust first. In any case solo cold night game is ineffective to the point of being a waste of time, you are not James Bond and 99.98% people peddling to be masters of night game are bullshitte…
/r/seduction02/01/25 09:58 PM
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"What can i do differently this year that can help me become more Confident to the point people have no choice but to respect the work i put on myself, i can talk to anyone anywhere without being awkward or anxious and not giving af about what other think and just have a good social circle and a good dating life" Before you solve your dating life you need to get your life in order, strive for financial independence, ready easy peasy to get rid of the porn addiction, and get in shape. If you cant…
/r/seduction02/01/25 09:47 PM
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Is not pretend she already likes you, because you dont, you need to understand you are a likeable person and bring lots of good stuff to the table, if you dont, then you need to work on it. Also you need to learn to be disconnected from the result.
/r/seduction02/01/25 09:33 PM
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U dont
/r/seduction02/01/25 09:18 PM
1

"Secondly, I am wondering from now on if I should totally avoid sexting or sending nudes," Yes you should, apps are a venue for meeting women, you should not waste time texting too much, or even worst, sexting. Apps are filled with tire kickers attention seeking slobs, working girls and fake profiles, sexting falls right into their avenue. I dated plenty of women from dating apps, and had sex with most of the ones I dated since my 30s, not even once I ever had sex or even a date from women that …
/r/seduction19/12/24 08:57 AM
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Its impossible, banging a women will make them bond to you. Telling them you dont want nothing serious from the get go offers you an exit, but you cant get the sex and avoid hurting the ladies.
/r/seduction19/12/24 08:47 AM
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It gives you the tools and confidence to find a partner, hopefully for life, it also helps to increase your confidence, other than that, it ends up being boring and can take you down into a degenerate rabbit hole that its not good for you.
/r/seduction10/12/24 07:35 AM
1

Biggest delusion is achieving success with women only to realize that banging them left and right its empty and meaningless
/r/seduction05/12/24 09:14 PM
2

Not really.
/r/seduction04/12/24 09:40 PM
1

5 was the limit of my rotation back when I did that stuff, but it was very expensive and tiresome. I think 2 o 3 max is the sweetspot, beyond that it becomes draining both in terms of time and money
/r/seduction04/12/24 09:36 PM
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This is the reason why hooking up is shit, most woman you bang for a prolonged period of time would jump into a romantic relationship the moment you ask, it doesnt matter how straightforward and honest you are, it doesnt matter how much they tell you they just want the same. When you follow the path of one night stand, short term relationships and f-buddies you are always going to hurt them no matter what you do. If you dont mind about hurting them, its very important to tell them the truth and …
/r/seduction01/12/24 08:29 AM
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Honesty is always the best choice, women are pretty good at sniffing fakes. Be honest, but remember you dont need to disclose anything you dont want to, unless is something that could harm the other person (like having an std for example), keeping your persona life to yourself and people who you truly trust is not dishonest or wrong.
/r/seduction01/12/24 08:19 AM
1

"you can’t get good without first being bad." You can be bad and never get better
/r/seduction01/12/24 08:12 AM
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Having a handsome face: 100% Being in good shape while having a handsome face 1000% https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0avuIqeergQ&t=71s
/r/seduction29/11/24 02:50 AM
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Dont risk alienating your class, but hit freely on women in either events, parties, or salsa clubs. As you have explained, and I know this is true, dancing is the best opener.
/r/seduction28/11/24 01:23 AM
1

If you want a ltr relationship you need to give her time, if you dont then go for it
/r/seduction26/11/24 09:20 PM
1

I only got laid from daygame once, a girl I picked at a library, the rest were during nightgame, in my experience is the worst form of cold approach, at least chicks at a bar or club expect to be approached. "What I don't like about apps as an older guy is the age filter though." lying is not good, apps are good for women in your age range, if you want hotter women the best option is to become active and social where those women are. Real Estate and Dancing were my go to options, not by design, …
/r/seduction26/11/24 06:35 PM
1

Yep, this was my experience as well, and even though I did got a few str and one night stands, the juice was not worth the squeeze, dating apps and becoming more social was what did it for me.
/r/seduction26/11/24 03:39 PM
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Mistake in my not so humble opinion. -Pretending to be something you are not (a swiftie) girls can smell a fake miles away, its good as an opener I guess, but you should be able to carry the conversation by yourself, which becomes harder in cold approach. Back when I cold approached, I had a wingman (one of the few like myself, fool enough to read the PUA books) that tried to open the same way you did, he always got the girl laughing etc, and he always ended the same way you did in the anecdote.…
/r/seduction25/11/24 08:36 AM
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Being goodlooking (handsome and fit) is always better, this is undeniable, a handsome fit guy can do no wrong with women. People telling you otherwise are trying to sell you something.
/r/seduction25/11/24 07:54 AM
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If you approach a lot of women at salsa classes, you dont need to approach in college; dance classes are flooding with women, lots of them above average. Having a good social life in dance will also help you a lot when using apps.
/r/seduction24/11/24 08:20 PM
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Who knows, but you are not entitled to her forgiveness, talk to her if she doesnt welcome you back, accept it and move on, keeping scores on relationships is not good.
/r/seduction24/11/24 08:15 PM
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There are several things to unpack, I will avoid the inner game stuff because the 1st reply hit the nail on the head. First, you must understand that true cold approach is situational and depends heavily on looks or money, even if people like to pretend this isnt the case; there are ways to minimize the looks aspect, but just hitting women on the street or the gym, the grocery storethe club, will turn you into a rejection taking machine that will turn to gello the moment you score one hit like m…
/r/seduction24/11/24 08:09 AM
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I dont think the situation can be salvaged, but if you want to try, talk to her and explain the situation. Not every interaction with a woman need to be sleazy or gamey, just talk, be frank and explain, she probably wont take you back, but its a pascal wager.
/r/seduction24/11/24 07:33 AM
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Dont fake it, if you want to explore female heavy hobbies at least take the time to learn and enjoy, faking it its tiresome and will make u hate yourself.
/r/seduction24/11/24 07:02 AM
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Learn to dance and then ask them for a dance, its the easiest and most efective way to cold approach.
/r/seduction24/11/24 06:53 AM
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If you want to seduce with a classy or dandy vibe you need to live the life, girls pickup on fakes very fast, so if you are not a british secret agent, a supervillain, an opera actor/musician, or a millionaire, you are going to look like a dork. "Any recommended books, videos, movies that capture this type of persona?" You can watch goldeneye, this movie will teach you how to pick on sex hungry russian female assasins that like to smoke cigars while playing Baccarat in Monaco, it doesnt get more…
/r/seduction23/11/24 07:24 AM
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"How Many Men Actually Get Hook Ups Consistently?How Many Men Actually Get Hook Ups Consistently?" I used to get laid two or three times a week with my rotation back when I was doing degen shit, more or less depending on my wallet. I tried to get dates once or two times a month at least from apps or social circle to keep the rotation in shape. I stopped doing it because I realized it was cringe and fucked up. regarding yout situation, you should take a break from dating, getting demoralized bree…
/r/seduction23/11/24 07:12 AM
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Doing married women is a good way to end in a ditch.
/r/seduction21/11/24 07:36 AM
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Depends on the rejection, its either not respond at all, or an educated thanks bye.
/r/seduction21/11/24 03:48 AM
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You are not a blip on her radar
/r/seduction21/11/24 03:45 AM
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Getting into women heavy areas (dancing and real estate) this increased my confort with women and teached me how to approach, handle and learn womentalk, thus I became more charming as a result. Understanding women dont owe me anything and going to dates without a sense of entitlement, this helps you keep frame and abundance mindset.
/r/seduction21/11/24 03:43 AM
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Basically. Give it a try, besides the women, its fun and good cardio. This dude knows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GrTCGtQBq8&t=658s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZZR9hCNsaU&t=127s
/r/seduction20/11/24 06:26 AM
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I will try to explain and give some tips in a very detailed way, I hope it works as it worked for me. "would be unattractive or sort of sleazy to girls" First things first, the fact you join a dance class is not sleazy or unattractive to girls by itself, joining a class solo is common, so is dancing with every girl on the class. About hitting on the ladies in the class, this depends on the group dynamics of the class; if the class is made of a small tight knit group and a few new guys that join …
/r/seduction18/11/24 09:19 PM
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Basic It takes practice, lots of practice. First question I would ask you, is why you want to game girls? its just sex? if thats the case, I would ask why again? it gets tiresome really fast, but is not that complicated; keep practicing your approach, always escalate, and shoot below your level; you will get good enough to bed skanks on a regular basis. If you want something more than sex, which would be my basic advice, I would recommend to start building a social circle around an activity that…
/r/seduction18/11/24 07:48 AM
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Be subtle. Also and I wont stop repeating this, because its an excellent place to do cold approach, is learn to effin dance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPaSlaoYbWE
/r/seduction18/11/24 07:26 AM
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Dating apps are used to set dates, a coffe shop or bar where you can actually meet the person, any attempt to meet girls via text is doomed to fail. Text game is bullshit, why? Women inboxes are filled with dudes, women get hundreds of matches, a lot of women have the attention span of a goldfish, and some women are very busy. If you get her attention, shoot to kill. This is also why I prefer bumble, it forces them to be proactive; you are going to lose plenty of matches for the aforementioned r…
/r/seduction18/11/24 07:18 AM
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Cold approach its very ineffective and can turn into a cringe fest very fast, Im not saying dont do it, just be smart about it, dont go running after women on the street; the souave box slayer that can get women anywhere its for the most part a cliche designed to sale courses, while those guys do exist (I actually met one, he was a total scumbag btw, but he could get any chick he wanted), they are a very rare breed and not worth emulating. It helps with social anxiety and social skills, that its…
/r/seduction15/11/24 08:15 AM
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/r/seduction15/11/24 07:48 AM
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"I can’t help but think it’s something I’m doing or saying" That its probably the case, but remember that flaking happens to everyone, even to silve tongue gigachads; its a fact of life, you win ones and lose anothers. What I know for sure is the more you focus on failure the more you draw failure to yourself, remember misery loves company. If dating is draging you down, take a break from it. I would also add a couple of tips to avoid flaking; -This could be controversial but I prefered Bumble o…
/r/seduction15/11/24 07:40 AM
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"I immediately said no" I get it, I would have done the same, perhaps softening the I wont change my daily routine for you and offering an alternative date then and there.
/r/seduction12/11/24 07:11 AM
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Where are you looking for women? because the type of fish depends on the pond. If you are hitting on hoes at the bar or the club, then one night stands is all you are going to get. It doesnt seem to me you have a problem with talking and wooing girls, establishing conection, rapport, etc, the problem is that If the girl in question is spreading her legs just too feed her dopamine addled brain and her lack of self steem, you aint getting no conection no matter how much of a silver tongue devil yo…
/r/seduction12/11/24 06:45 AM
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In my opinion the interaction was busted after the first date, im asuming you were the one texting her daily, im I wrong? I would stop interacting with her as of now and move on, but if you like the girl there is no damage in giving her some space and then ask for another date, if she radio silence your ass, or ask you to have patience, or says no, then move on.
/r/seduction12/11/24 06:26 AM
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Talking about serious topics is never a problem, is how you do it, there is a thin line between being interesting and being pedantic, if you like those topics, turn them in to questions. Remember everyone, and women in particular, likes to talk about themselves; so guide the conversation to ensure they do. For example I used to ask about worst bumble/tinder date, its a cheesy dumb question I know, but every girl has had at least a shit date from the apps, so you can have her talk about herself, …
/r/seduction12/11/24 06:17 AM
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Yes and no, I reached the conclusion that casual sex was bad precisely because I wrecked a really sweet nice girl, but it was hard to internalize and accept, it took religion to make me look into the mirror and do it. "only sex in committed LTR's from now?" Yes, I dont think I can pull the second tbh, and I dont see the type of harm you create with casual sex if you are serious about the girl, who knows, maybe I need to give it more thought.
/r/seduction12/11/24 05:50 AM
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Yes, though I cant deny its very alluring, the thrill of the hunt in particular.
/r/seduction12/11/24 02:05 AM
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Casual sex is evil men, the thrill of the hunt and the ego boost is amazing, but you leave behind a trail of broken women. I used to rationalize it, said to myself it was fine because they all knew what they were getting into, but nah it sucks; all it takes is you wrecking some truly nice girl to realize what a horrible thing it is.
/r/seduction11/11/24 06:18 AM
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"Maybe I‘m „too nice“ here and some would call me „pussy“. Nah I totally get it dude, I actually share your mindset. The thing is that you always need to be closing, but this can be at your pace; you don't need to bang her, kiss her or whatever in the first date, but she needs to know there is sexual intent behind the date; how to escalate is for you to figure it out. For example, Im comfortable with kissing in the first or second date (not making out or anything, just a kiss or two), this is my…
/r/seduction05/11/24 09:35 PM
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"I am not sure if it’s 100%" It doesnt matter, the reason could be anything, the date didnt worked out that's what matter in the end don't get triggered by it and move on, it happens to everyone. "I didn’t make an escalation move" This is probably the problem, always be closing my dude. Gradual escalation always worked like a charm for me; if the chick is not responding to even minimal basic escalation (like holding hands or playing with her hands), then something is off.
/r/seduction05/11/24 08:06 AM
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This is where game becomes an art, you need to learn when to retreat and when to attack; I live and die by the rule of the clock, always be an hour behind the level of interest of the chick.
/r/seduction02/11/24 09:21 AM
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Yes, but also when you pay attention to them when you should. I remember a chick i was banging, who told me baffled on why dudes liked to pretend they were not interested in her and thus blew their chances of banging her as well.
/r/seduction02/11/24 09:18 AM
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I agree 100%, dating and seducing women is pretty fun I'm not going to deny it, but on its own its degenerate and comes with a lot of baggage; emotional and financial. As a middle aged man with my good shares of mistakes I would add: Workout to remain healthy and good-looking (nobody cares if you can squat a cow, trust me, your spine and knees will thankyou as you age) Work as a mule; being a young man is a big asset many of us squander on stupid shit. Invest: While trips and toys are fun, you d…
/r/seduction01/11/24 09:01 PM
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"to make first dates fun without alcohol?" As long as you work on your conversation techniques, you can make any date fun. Back when I was in the game, I took girls to bars (sometimes I drinked sparkling water with lime and salt to avoid alcohol, so you don't need to avoid bars even if you are sober) Coffee shops and going for some ice cream also works like a charm.
/r/seduction01/11/24 08:37 PM
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1.- Never match with those girls, they are either working girls or a narcissistic waste of time. 2.-Bumble has the advantage of the women being required to message first, so no time wasted with time wasters, so no never message them outside the app. 3.- Have a few messages with her and ask her to meet in person, if she doesn't agree, dump her
/r/seduction30/10/24 08:13 AM
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Why didnt you escalate to physical stuff if she was so excited?
/r/seduction30/10/24 08:09 AM
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Honest take? you probably cant do shit, and even if you could, in those cases is better to do nothing unless you are certain she is into you and you are looking for something serious. Dating women from friend circles, school or work is a good way to sour your life, trust me. Stop torturing yourself, learn stuff like dancing (increases your confidence around women), and remember you are worth it men, don't sell yourself cheap.
/r/seduction30/10/24 08:06 AM
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If you are good looking and have plenty of dates but very little success, you are likely being to friendly. Guide the conversation but let her do most the talking, use negs rarely but do use them on stuff that wont hurt her, if she is fat don't call her fat, make her laugh and escalate as much as the situation allows. PD: Being a womanizer is not as cool as it sounds; its expensive, its tiring, damages your pair bonding, and you end up dealing with a bunch of toxic women; date aiming for a famil…
/r/seduction30/10/24 07:59 AM
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The real question is what makes you think most girls dont want you to approach them? All the reasons you think are probably right since most people dont like being approached by strangers, and you should not btw, its a good way to get punched, knifed or having a ride in the back of a police car. Most of the approaches on YT are bullshit, better spend your time learning some skill that will allow you to approach in socially approved ways, like Salsa or country dancing.
/r/seduction30/10/24 07:42 AM
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