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It is a good practice to expand acronyms in parentheses on first use, and explain them if it makes sense to do so.
/r/MensRights29/07/25 01:24 PM
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What is an FIR?
/r/MensRights29/07/25 11:32 AM
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No answer, iow.
/r/MensRights25/04/25 08:19 PM
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Would that be acceptable to put that young lady through? What do you think is the harm that is occurring? Be specific.
/r/MensRights25/04/25 01:57 PM
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Better yet, a bolter round to the head of every quack involved in this farce of a medical procedure.
/r/MensRights05/03/25 12:55 PM
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Cool goal post shift there. "I've never seen a woman or feminist say that" conveniently transforms to "I want a source from an entire organization". Anyway, here ya go: https://womenagainstrape.net/false-allegation-or-miscarriage-of-justice/ I especially like their argument that false accusers shouldn't be punished because innocent women could get tagged. But if you suggested the same policy regarding rape and false accusations, they'd shit a kitten. Heh
/r/MensRights04/03/25 04:06 AM
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Ive never heard that from any woman or any so-called feminist. This is can't-find-Mexico-on-an-unlabeled-map levels of uninformed incompetence. "We didn't want to discourage confession" is the justification for generously lenient punishment of FRA crime.
/r/MensRights03/03/25 02:52 PM
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"wE dOn'T wAnT tO dIsCoUrAgE rEaL rEpOrTiNg"
/r/MensRights03/03/25 02:43 PM
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How can gang rape happen then [et al] A fairly absurd defense. Multiple people can cooperate to commit bank robbery, home burglary, shoplifting. Jokes about theft. Neighbors, friends, family borrow then don't return property. Movies and books and songs glorify theft. Government policy permits theft of property from it's citizens by agents of the state. Are we a "theft culture"? Are there there entire bodies of sociologists running around claiming this? I haven't read academic literature on "rape…
/r/MensRights03/03/25 02:30 PM
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Is this actually a common attitude on r/mensrights? One commenter doesn't exactly support your original assertion.
/r/MensRights03/03/25 01:52 PM
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There are different kinds of rapists and different kinds of thieves for sure. Indeed. There are rapes that happen because of racism, religious bigotry, transphobia, homophobia, pedophilia. There are those who committed a rape once/a few times because an opportunity presented itself, and never planned it. There are those who did it to go along with the group. Rapists who do it because they're in positions of power and they know they'll get away with it (gangsters, cops, autocrats). War time rapes…
/r/MensRights03/03/25 04:30 AM
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Otherwise, theyd be raping every day, all the time. There's a practicality issue here. What they're doing is a crime, presumably it would take some effort in order to avoid detection and arrest. A bank robber could presumably rob many banks in a day and would certainly want to in order to obtain more money. Drawing that much heat would quickly lead to their arrest. So they plan carefully, wait between instances, wait for opportune moments. The same would hold true for a rapist. Ideally they migh…
/r/MensRights02/03/25 10:47 AM
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It seems delusional to think that no rapist rapes purely to satisfy a sexual urge. Human behavior is far too varied. Also pretty silly to think that no amount of sexual urge plays a role in at least some portion of rapes that are not purely for satisfying sexual urges.
/r/MensRights02/03/25 06:28 AM
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"Every story" seems like a big stretch, at the very least some rape-murders do not conform to that interpretation. Raped to satisfy sexual urges is not raped because of gender. Killed to stop them from becoming a witness is not killed because of gender.
/r/MensRights01/03/25 02:22 PM
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There is no black person who has faced oppression ever since the slave trade. Seriously? Jim Crow?
/r/MensRights24/02/25 11:15 AM
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"Being stared at" jfc Similar criteria I will use in my study: Wore clothes Feet attached to ankles Spoke words Heard a car horn Saw the color brown Cleared throat Walked towards a school
/r/MensRights12/02/25 01:12 PM
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Imagine if the same attitude was held towards other crimes. "We can't punish rape harshly, it would discourage perpatrators from coming forward and admitting it, so everyone in the justice system doesn't think the victim is making a false accusation. It also encourages perpetrators to kill victims to eliminate witnesses. So that's why convicted rapists will only spend a week or two in the county jail." How 'bout it feminists? Does the concern for harm mitigation warrant leniency for crimes commi…
/r/MensRights18/01/25 04:36 PM
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Sounds incredibly lenient. What would the sentence be upon conviction if you and your friends took guns, showed up to a woman's house, kidnapped her via threats of aggravated assault and murder, stripped her of her clothes and possessions, and then locked her in a cage (with other people - effectively your accomplices - who then threaten to, or actually assault, rape or murder her)? Because that's effectively what she did.
/r/MensRights18/01/25 04:19 PM
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There was no clear threat to the officer in the video- so why he rushed to pick a target is really unclear. Is it? Seems fairly clear it's yet another cop that is a deadly, incompetent combo of a)colossally moronic b)white knight c)wannabe vigilante
/r/MensRights18/11/24 06:01 AM
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I would question if that was true. If the facts of the case support self defense, a claim of such should stand, even if the defendant has previously made an ill-advised video statement. I might have publicly stated on social media "I will kill any left handed blender mechanic I see!" But when I shot that left handed blender mechanic, I was minding my own business while walking home, and he was screaming "death to all right handed microwave mechanics!" and swinging an axe at my head. I'm sure no …
/r/MensRights13/11/24 01:14 AM
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One problem I see with the construction of the questions of the study: including "j) rape" and "k) Forcing a female [etc.]" with multiple other items that most people would consider consensual-but-kinky behavior may make respondents think that the j) and k) items are meant to represent consensual non-consent sex acts (also known as CNC for those in the lifestyle). "She says 'rape' but it is in this list with bondage and kissing and petting, is this a study about kinky sex? Is she talking about w…
/r/MensRights05/11/24 12:38 AM
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Like you know people are going to watch if you purposefully wear such clothing to grab attention because otherwise you wouldn't bother recording it if you wont get any views And the second you point this out expect the gaslighting to commence. "I wear camel toe clothing because it's comfortable!” "I look good for myself!" These seem to be the two popular variations.
/r/MensRights03/11/24 09:16 AM
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Previous surveys of this subreddit show a slight left leaning. That's still "a lot of people on this sub" to be classified as right wing. Your point doesn't contradict his.
/r/MensRights01/11/24 01:07 PM
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Casts an interesting bit of shade on the "men disappear for a day, women get to go outside feeling safe" meme.
/r/MensRights28/10/24 01:51 PM
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Which part of my post don't you understand? I would be happy to expand to the extent I am able.
/r/MensRights21/10/24 12:33 PM
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So I have a hard time relating to your generalization of Men. Maybe I'm special? Always a possibility. Biological traits tend to express along a bell curve. And, given how mentality is an outgrowth of physicality (we have thoughts because of the biological material in our skulls), there's no inherent reason mental traits could not express that way. 68/95/99.7 for 1,2,3 sigma in a normal distribution, and some people have to be out on the left side and right sides.
/r/MensRights21/10/24 11:56 AM
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A few sources that may get one close on your unsourced imgur file. https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/ipv.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiU8u-2tpmJAxVsFTQIHdHqNn0QzsoNegQICxAH&usg=AOvVaw1sdojRK17HixfrPI306PSO https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/htius.pdf%3Fref%3Dathwart.org&ved=2ahUKEwj14M-2tpmJAxUpDzQIHfajHzcQFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2pw9M6QVGPIql-7sxMrDgP 1st link:Bureau of Justice Statistics Special Report Intimate Partner Violence May 2000, NCJ 178247. By Callie Marie Rennison, Ph.D. and Sarah Welchans BJS Sta…
/r/MensRights19/10/24 03:04 AM
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Problems are problems, even if worse problems exist. Is date rape tolerable because kidnapping-torture-murder rape exists? smh Imagine how hard this hypocrite would shit their pants in rage over someone downplaying male-perpetrated DV by saying "severity matters", talking about slaps that leave no permanent damage and bringing up the hundreds of homicides of husbands/boyfriends women commit every year.
/r/MensRights18/10/24 01:43 PM
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Really depends on jurisdiction.
/r/MensRights12/10/24 06:08 PM
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60/40 was the stretch goal. Marriage is the real win condition...for her. A breakup pre marriage is just a breakup. Post marriage breakup, he's gonna get the divorce court train run on him. So she's got him in the relationship arm bar, and it's tap or snap. Assuming there's no kids, of course. Once a kid makes an appearance she's got you over a barrel, regardless of relationship status.
/r/MensRights12/10/24 01:54 PM
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The Kafka trap.
/r/MensRights29/09/24 02:09 PM
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The MRM attracts a lot of tradcons (to be expected) and thus a fair number with a bit of trouble understanding reality (syllogistically also expected). But it's also a group vulnerable to ruski psyops for one or two structural-functional reasons, so hard to say which is which.
/r/MensRights21/09/24 11:12 PM
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If Grandma was as yet unborn and "lung cancer" meant she would be born anacephalic and "shooting" meant performing an approved medical procedure and not doing so carried even a tiny risk of killing my wife, and also meant having to spend the rest of my life carrying an organism that won't develop beyond the sentience of celery, you bet your fucking ass I would "shoot" "grandma".
/r/MensRights21/09/24 03:07 PM
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just give a child up for abortion. I do believe she did.
/r/MensRights21/09/24 02:31 PM
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My big concern would be the lack of "job opportunities", as it were, if the relationship fails. How difficult will it be to continue on your chosen career path when most women aren't looking to support an entire household? They don't want to keep working, they seem to want to be the SAHP. And I don't know, maybe there's no increased risk of divorce for SAHFs, but losing your job certainly ups the odds. Plus the prejudice you'll face in family court as well as increasingly DEI-focused HR departme…
/r/MensRights08/09/24 01:57 PM
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"deals with toxic masculinity" "Are you going to do anything about real issues men face, like parental alienation, CS debtors prison or false rape allegations?" [crickets]
/r/MensRights06/09/24 08:05 PM
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What in the Han Van Meegeren does that have to do with prosecution?
/r/MensRights03/09/24 11:57 PM
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Do you think Mom is getting discounts? Because they aren’t. So what. The woman isn't the one forking over to the racket. Those are NORMAL BILLS for a full ass grown adult. And they are the major bills that go into establishing a household for children. They are by far the largest expense paid by parents. They’re ALSO responsible for half the cost of shoes, clothing, food, school expenses, So is the father. medical expenses, braces and the dentist, glasses Mostly that's dad's responsibility given…
/r/MensRights22/08/24 05:28 AM
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You’re supposed to take care of YOUR CHILD. He already is. Do you think fathers suddenly don't have to pay rent because they're non-custodial? Do they get a 50% discount on their car insurance payment or electricity bill?
/r/MensRights22/08/24 04:31 AM
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That does not speak well to the intelligence of the majority of reactors.
/r/MensRights16/08/24 10:37 PM
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FRA would also be a viable choice.
/r/MensRights15/08/24 09:55 AM
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Not to mention women using state-sponsored violence to exploit and abuse men.
/r/MensRights15/08/24 09:53 AM
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Some people just have poor media literacy.
/r/MensRights04/08/24 09:04 PM
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It really seems like OP (the rescued girl) is joking. Dry, absurdist humor. Mocking ungratefulness, even.
/r/MensRights04/08/24 07:25 PM
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Feelings of entitlement aren't going to MAKE someone violent; they'll just fail to discourage it. That's just wrong. https://www.apa.org/pubs/highlights/spotlight/issue-216 And the biases that lead to them not being considered potential perpetrators is exactly what I was talking about. No, these are separate concepts and phenomena. Your mechanism stems from a prejudice against women, the one I describe stems from a prejudice in favor of women. It's not that women can't perform, so goes the preju…
/r/MensRights02/08/24 04:41 AM
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I am skeptical that female privilege plays little part. The WAW effect and feelings of female entitlement could play a very large role. Let's not forget pervasive cultural and legal bias that favors women in the dv arena, fails to define them as possible perpetrators and then fails to hold them accountable.
/r/MensRights02/08/24 12:41 AM
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That's the big issue right there. You can find all sorts of edge cases of heinous people doing heinous shit, on and off the Internet. But when the system fails to punish aggravated assault genital mutilation, you know there is serious, unaddressed problem of inequality.
/r/MensRights30/07/24 11:29 PM
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If it were just that, we'd expect something approaching parity in assignment of blame. The other factor is of course preconceived prejudices. Thus the disparity in judgement.
/r/MensRights26/07/24 12:34 PM
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As if that isn't being enshitified, too.
/r/MensRights25/07/24 09:59 PM
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If you're not talking about mandatory child support with attendant debtors prison then I have to wonder wtf YOU are talking about. No one here is saying women don't have a right to their own bodies. Maybe you just throw around irrelevant sloganeering at regular intervals, like a verbal tic?
/r/MensRights24/07/24 03:25 PM
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If you are consenting to sleep with a woman- you are consenting to her having agency over her own body Obviously. You do, however, realize that trying to justify debt peonage from this principle is reprehensible, yes?
/r/MensRights24/07/24 01:26 PM
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I don't know, perhaps you do, does NY allow defense of others? And does an inability of another to retreat permit use of defensive force?
/r/MensRights18/07/24 08:20 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Jordan_Neely I'm curious, with the facts of the case at hand, does it still seem like Penny is being persecuted for a tragic, selfless act?
/r/MensRights18/07/24 02:02 PM
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They aren't producing planes and tanks I am skeptical that you are even surficially informed on this issue. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_industry_of_Ukraine
/r/MensRights13/07/24 10:24 PM
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Drafting women doesn't mean they all go through seal school. They can work AA, civil defense/resistance, espionage, supply, cooks, medical, or even fulfill civil roles ala Rosie the Riveter. If you're going to mobilize - and Ukraine should definitely mobilize and kill the everliving fuck out of the Russians - then let's mobilize. If Ukraine is not using women like that it's a fairly stupid move, they're leaving a ton of manpower just sitting on the table.
/r/MensRights13/07/24 09:09 PM
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I feel like lots of people are jumping down my throat & wishing the same bullshit happens to me If that's honestly what you think then you need to take a few deep breaths and get back in touch with reality. Only one person has wished harm on you. I don’t want anyone to have their lives ruined from these things I think these groups are great for exposing some real shady characters There's some dissonance in your messages going on here. You have to realize that when you say you appreciate the good…
/r/MensRights12/07/24 10:38 PM
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that is an unhinged take Not really, it's a solid logical demonstration of hypocrisy. You don't want yourself subjected to the system. You approve of other men, in exactly the same position as yourself, being subjected to it. "Rules for thee but not for me." It's supposedly an important tool. How can your gf truly know legit dirt won't pop up on you without her checking? If it's useful for other women to post their bfs, it should be useful for this woman, too. Shouldn't it?
/r/MensRights12/07/24 01:38 PM
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If they're people who truly matter to you, why do you simply accept it and not call it out, One of the confounding issues is the US family court system and the systemic bigotry it exhibits towards men. If your wife gets the 'ick' it's not just "oh, what an inconvenience", it's "oh fuck, my life is about to be destroyed". Failure in this regard carries serious consequences. To a lesser extent, this same reasoning applies to family, friends and co-workers. Humans are social animals, and no man is …
/r/MensRights11/07/24 10:43 PM
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Which may be the purpose. The program is not meant to do anything other than funnel money into the pockets of the politicians' associates (and then into the politicians' pockets via kickbacks).
/r/MensRights26/06/24 02:26 PM
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Men want this This is an irrelevant observation. Because women want this too. It's so common it has a name, the "mommy track". The more realistic, less self-serving observation would be that some men want this, some men don't. Some women want this, some women don't. Some couples are forced into this arrangement out of necessity, the money the woman can pull in is about what they would spend on daycare. Some number of women are forced into this, just like some men are forced into this (I point yo…
/r/MensRights26/06/24 04:05 AM
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You can sacrifice your career trajectory Decisions come with consequences. Except, apparently, where women soliciting divorces consider their own self interest. In that case, they're obviously expecting courts to mitigate the consequences of their decisions at the expense of men. And yes, women consider that. So what. We're taking about what courts consider, not what women consider. This is not rocket science. Then keep up.
/r/MensRights25/06/24 09:43 PM
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First off, most women work outside the home as well. I thought she was "sacrificing her career" by not working. Make up your mind. Secondly, being a 24-7 cook, housekeeper, [etc] Men do all that work, too. Look at how much it would cost Oh, we're monetizing family division of labor? Then let's look up the cost of a mechanic, a plumber, an electrician, a repairman, a contractor, a landscaper, an arborist, a logger, a chauffer and a bodyguard while we're at it. Your accounting of relationship inpu…
/r/MensRights25/06/24 05:56 PM
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Do you think the person who’s giving up their life You mean the person who spends all their time doing miserable work to make rich shareholders richer? Ha, just kidding, I know you mean your statement in the most misandrist way possible, completely discounting any sacrifice or contribution a man makes. compensated for sacrificing And what restitution will she make for having been given free room, board and entertainment for the duration of the marriage, not to mention the work he has done in the…
/r/MensRights25/06/24 05:46 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_statistics_by_gender
/r/MensRights20/06/24 02:22 PM
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And that is why we see feminists embrace the MRA movement and never see them work against MRA endeavors (like male suicide talks by Warren Farrell where fire alarms are pulled) or talk about MRAs or men in denigrating ways.
/r/MensRights20/06/24 02:20 PM
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Some famous false actuation cases, in no particular order: Central Park Five Duke University Lacrosse team incident Brian Banks Rolling Stone/Phi Kappa Psi/University of Virginia Hofstra University case Alice Sebold/Anthony Broadwater Satanic panic/McMartin Preschool
/r/MensRights20/06/24 02:05 PM
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They are just not the same fucking thing, any way you slice it. Indeed, there's no debtors prison policies for a woman having a child.
/r/MensRights20/06/24 01:43 PM
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Not the best example. Use infant male genital mutilation in the future. It's a subject feminists will (at least sometimes) try to minimize, deny and even justify.
/r/MensRights20/06/24 01:39 PM
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Another ironic accusation. You know what "but" means when you use it the way you do in your OP? Apparently not. Unless you're not here in good faith, in which case the gaslighting is characteristic.
/r/MensRights30/05/24 03:28 PM
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if you get offended An amusing accusation, given the "murdered men don't count" source.
/r/MensRights30/05/24 02:20 PM
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I never said that at all. Um, you kinda did. In a thread talking about fear of being murdered, you bring up that men are the majority of murderers. "Yes men are murdered more, but more men are murdering as well." There's text and then there's subtext. Your subtext here very much does appear to be "men commit more murders than women, so men's fear of murder is invalid compared to a woman's." If that's not the message you're trying to convey, you might want to think more carefully about how you co…
/r/MensRights30/05/24 01:34 PM
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Predominantly, men are killing men. Oh, I guess that makes it ok then.
/r/MensRights30/05/24 09:10 AM
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2010 Men murdered in Australia: 171 Women murdered in Australia: 83 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_statistics_by_gender
/r/MensRights29/05/24 08:37 PM
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The point is that it is better that 100 guilty people go free than 1 innocent person be wrongly imprisoned. That is exactly the reasoning I used. If we're misapplying Blackstone's Formulation, then it's better 100 guilty rapists go free than 1 innocent falsely accused person be punished. Right? Micro punishments for false accusers to prevent harm to the falsely accused, micro punishments for rapists to also prevent harm to the falsely accused.
/r/MensRights22/05/24 11:56 PM
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I know what you mean. You don't want to run the risk of punishing innocent victims with false accusations. You also don't want the real rapists to look at a long sentence and then kill the woman to cover up the crime. That's why, in a similar vein, the rape of a woman by a man should be a crime punished by 0 days in jail, maximum, and no record of wrongdoing. Just a small fine, like a speeding ticket. We want to incentivise good behavior, right?
/r/MensRights22/05/24 09:26 PM
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At minimum she should spend ten years in prison, just like a man would if he asked 5-15 of his buddies - all armed with multiple firearms - to kidnap a woman and hold her imprisoned (with possible violent and/or sexual assault) for anywhere from a week to 20 years. Because that's what she did.
/r/MensRights22/05/24 09:11 PM
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Your "gotcha" is super brain dead. It's feminists trying to say that attacks don't count if it's a man attacking a man. Now you, another feminist, are trying to either/or us with something we also reject, the idea that assaults on children don't count if they're perpetrated by the mom. So which is it. They both count. This is not a hard choice; you are a ding-dong if you think it is.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 06:34 PM
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I wish women saw men as they see their sons, father and bf. All men are pigs but my lovely bf, without noticing that her bf is an unknown man (aka worse than a bear) to the rest of women. And you'll notice that men saying something similar e.g. "you're better than other women" will (like as not) draw a feminist lecture.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 02:36 PM
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1) So being mauled by a bear is preferable to sexual assault? Being eaten while still alive, that's the lesser outcome? 2) How many men do you run into on a daily basis? Are you being sexually assaulted at a daily rate? 3) Do sexual assaults typically occur between strangers, "rapists jumping out of bushes", or do they typically occur between acquaintances, friends, family in different environments with different methods?
/r/MensRights07/05/24 07:28 AM
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that they’d rather die than be able to trust a fellow human And the point I am making is that position is incredibly foolish, completely divorced from any sense of proportion. Do you understand the bear will 10% of the time turn you into Hugh Glass or Timothy Treadwell? For a man to reach that level you essentially have to run into a serial killer, 1 in 8 million odds.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 07:02 AM
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Hardly a straw man, my analogy outlines the stupidity of your position, i.e. the foolishness of not taking into account probabilities.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 06:43 AM
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You're like the person who stops leaving their house because they don't want to get killed in a car crash. But now they can't go to the doctor, they're getting evicted, they can't buy food... They sure did avoid the worst possible outcome, though.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 06:13 AM
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Sometimes men play the "say deliberately antagonistic things" game too. Some of those men play it somewhat differently than women do. It would be a bit silly to assume either style is meant in earnest.
/r/MensRights03/05/24 12:34 PM
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The hypothetical is completely vague. It's a Rorschach test. "What do you think and feel when I mention the word 'man'?" What some women think and feel is apparently a shit ton of bigotry.
/r/MensRights02/05/24 09:28 PM
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Let them be rescued by a bear. Who's doing the body recovery on that one? Woman, or man?
/r/MensRights02/05/24 02:40 PM
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The bear certainly isn't going to give a man the Brian Banks treatment.
/r/MensRights02/05/24 02:34 PM
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"he will gatekeep it and try to weaponize your need to get sex". So, was this a bartender who wouldn't give her free drinks or a car or computer nerd who wouldn't just drop everything and fix her car or computer for free?
/r/MensRights30/04/24 12:52 PM
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Now was that woman punished for making a mockery of real victims of harassment? Who gives a fuck about mockery. She should be punished for trying to commit kidnapping, aggravated assault and sexual assault. All with firearm enhancements.
/r/MensRights30/04/24 12:45 AM
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If I do that, you're going to find some other minor detail to dismiss it. If ya coulda, ya woulda.
/r/MensRights22/04/24 11:56 PM
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They do not differ significantly. They do, as I've already pointed out. You clickity-clacked three paragraphs of verbiage, but none of it address the points I raise. Find a case where a man (not a cop, or a judge or a politician) attacks a woman (not a man) with a weapon, improvised or not, and the attack is not defensive use of force, and serves no jail time. You say it happens all the time, then it shouldn't be an issue finding one case that fits the bill.
/r/MensRights22/04/24 10:15 PM
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the order of the conversation matters I'm not taking your statement out of context. Your very first contribution to this thread was this: No way ever if the genders were reversed would a male be spared jail. not even true. men stay at out of jail after attacking women all the time. The points I raise addres your claim. You are making an apples-to-oranges comparison, a logical fallacy. If you'd like to make one that isn't fallacious you should do that instead.
/r/MensRights22/04/24 09:53 PM
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It's not just that they're not identical, but that they differ in significant ways. One was a cop committing a crime. One wasn't even an assault against a woman. Do you think it is insignificant to compare a case where the victim cooperates completely with prosecution vs a case where the victim does not?
/r/MensRights22/04/24 09:39 PM
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Not really comparable cases though. 1) DV, girlfriend still with him, didn't stab anyone, didn't attack a stranger 2) man is victim 3) DV, victim didn't request restraining order, victim not directly harmed initially 4) DV, victim refuses to cooperate 5) DV, was ultimately jailed for 18 months 6) cop perpetrator
/r/MensRights22/04/24 07:18 PM
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i’m saying it’s not uncommon for men to assault their partners and spend nearly no time in jail. DV is a very different situation than an attack like this. Is the attacked man refusing to testify, refusing to talk to police? These DV-committing men ostensibly avoiding punishment, are their wives and girlfriends standing up in court angrily denouncing them while judges say "ah well, he seems like a nice enough guy, and she did bring it on herself by saying he had a small dick, and he was drinking…
/r/MensRights22/04/24 06:56 PM
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Imagine the cognitive dissonance when their cars need an oil change.
/r/MensRights20/04/24 06:02 PM
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It is indeed a cruel mindset, but that is the sort of thing we're used to seeing from misandrists. What's "odd" is that you don't inherently recognize this...unless you don't have much sympathy for the problems men face, of course.
/r/MensRights19/04/24 03:32 PM
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I'm just saying that does not match OP's story. People in relationships can feel lonely and alienated. Especially men and boys. But if that's honestly your thought process - a desire to drill down on the minutiae of motivation - you'll communicate your ideas more effectively by explaining your reasoning right from the beginning. Otherwise, it looks like what you're trying to say is a boy deserved to die because he might have upset a girl. Of course, the other possibility is this is just a mott a…
/r/MensRights19/04/24 03:18 PM
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To be fair, the boy featured here literally got in this mess minutes after being intimate with his gf. Do you do this sort of "to be fair" stuff when women are victimized? "To be fair, she did cheat on her taxes before she was raped."
/r/MensRights19/04/24 02:44 PM
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You might want that to be true, but I guarantee there are women out there who would spread legs for that attitude in a heartbeat. Awful men have kids all the time. Randy Weaver had kids. Gary Ridgeway, the Green River Killer, had kids. John Wayne Gacy had two kids. There was a guy in my home town who went to prison for chopping an old woman in the head with an axe and fucking her body afterward. That guy managed to get two different women to say yes to a marriage proposal...while in prison! I do…
/r/MensRights18/04/24 01:19 PM
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an irrational fear So that part where you said "i do get the concerns, i do" was a lie, empty words trying to establish fake rapport. No surprise there. "it's just so silly" Good lord do I wish I could turn you into a man and run you through the family court gauntlet. You'd sing a different tune in a hurry. Women swim in a sea of privilege.
/r/MensRights18/04/24 01:12 AM
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those kinds of petty things So "petty" of me to want to live indoors, eat food, retire some day.
/r/MensRights16/04/24 01:10 PM
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Don’t know why you’re being downvoted. Probably the juxtaposition of prenup, cs and alimony, and the fact that the 1st is zero defense from the 2nd or 3rd.
/r/MensRights16/04/24 12:58 PM
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Notice how there is no credit given for the compensation he provided her when they were together? Imagine a man asking his employer for something like that after he gets laid off. "Hey, family courts, can my old company pay me a second round of salary over the next ten years? Thanks a bunch."
/r/MensRights16/04/24 12:47 PM
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Isn't it funny that even though the relationship is over, family courts and women still want that one aspect of men paying them money to continue onward. This is one of the ways we know the "patriarchy" hypothesis is ridiculous. In a patriarchy, women would be forced to provide sex and house cleaning services after a divorce.
/r/MensRights16/04/24 12:39 PM
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Just a heads up, whether or not you're married is essentially irrelevant if you also have kids. If you get divorced and she's not feeling generous (or in an incredibly disadvantaged position wrt family court proceedings) you're about to get fucked, and fucked hard. "Family" courts will happily assist her in alternating you from your kids, kick you out of your house, levy cs payments and put you in jail for non payment of same regardless of the presence of a marriage license.
/r/MensRights16/04/24 12:29 PM
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I see you and I had the same thought at roughly the same time. This is the way.
/r/MensRights16/04/24 12:14 PM
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"Why keep them?" Why? Because when that ex comes back ten years later weeping "he raped me!” to a detective, prosecutor and/or jury, that material is going to be the only evidence you have that you didn't commit a sex crime. You're insecure? I don't want to go to prison for decades. Can't believe no one - on this sub of all places - has pointed it out yet. I ain't deletin' shit. To anyone who asks the answer is a resounding, unwavering "no". Get over it or take a hike.
/r/MensRights16/04/24 12:05 PM
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the idea that "women suck and their sucking is all women's fault" is suc Goddamn did you ever fuck up that fake argument I never made. Good job. Some women today are still left carrying the bag for a shared choice to have kids, and it was even worse before those changes were put in place (which is why those policies were put in place). Fundamentally incorrect. The policies are an extension of slavery and a way to continually victimize the poor and disenfranchised while at the same time creating …
/r/MensRights13/04/24 03:08 PM
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F: "Men made these policies and take the positions of power in Courts"M: "yeah, well Love that strawman argument. Women lobbied for those policies, and they occupy positions of authority in family courts, as much if not more than men. And where they don't they still have Women Are Wonderful privilege benefitting them. The idea that a man by default sides with a man is pretty laughable. And of course you make zero mention of parental alienation and the structural way family courts gladly assist w…
/r/MensRights13/04/24 06:57 AM
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You're certainly not allowed to do so in a one sided, delusional way that acts as if women play no role in this problem.
/r/MensRights13/04/24 04:31 AM
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had amicable separations, I did not take anything from them, and they don’t pay child support The real unicorn relationship, not sure where the dvs are coming from (tradcons, maybe). Or maybe people don't believe you? If one just writes off 50% of the population because one doesn’t know how to communicate or deal with challenges in life, one is going to be lonely and bitter. Oh, I see. Wonderful as it might be that you're not being a shit after divorce and not seeking CS, surely you must realize…
/r/MensRights10/04/24 09:53 PM
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Pretty much all “gender equality” spaces focus almost entirely on women already, as do feminists spaces, And lose their cool if you try to mention men's issues. Imagine being literally surrounded by men genitally mutilated as babies - and more added with every generation because it's still entirely legal - and thinking that's just men grandstanding.
/r/MensRights10/04/24 12:13 PM
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You have to answer for men's bad behavior I love the delusion of this one. If anything men are held responsible for the bad behavior of women. A woman cheated, a wife divorced? "What did the boyfriend or husband do to make her leave?" A woman hits a man? "What did he do to piss her off?". A woman sets a man on fire in his bed? "Clearly, he's abusive.". A woman drowns her five children in a bathtub? "Why wasn't the husband helping more, paying more attention, why did the patriarchy force her to b…
/r/MensRights05/04/24 03:23 AM
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"my job to explain to men that women don't use feminism as a weapon against them" Talk about an uphill battle. Imagine the rhetorical struggle of pretending child support, family court, Duluth model, primary aggressor laws, FBI rape definition, Are We Dating the Same Guy, male tears, kill all men, aren't real.
/r/MensRights31/03/24 01:40 PM
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These people sexualizing themselves wouldn't do it if they didn't get lots of viewers and money for it, The 409 scammers wouldn't send emails claiming to be Nigerian princes if there weren't people willing to send them money, too. That is not absolution for running a scam.
/r/MensRights26/03/24 12:33 PM
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It's bizarre how they claim that any area where men have an advantage is proof of the patriarchy, while they brush aside -except when they want to brag- the areas where women have the upper-hand. Women don't have priviledge, don'tchaknow, they experience "benevolent sexism". Talk about special pleading.
/r/MensRights25/03/24 02:04 PM
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For any man in here with sons or any man who wants sons you have to sit them down and speak to them about women. Don’t let them end up like these poor fools. And for the love of all the gods talk to your daughters, too! They have to understand how much stronger and faster every man and boy is than they are. Most of the time they aren't going see it, because most guys are toning it down about 80% when they're wrestling or play fighting with girls. Yes dear, even the nerdy noodle arm guys are goin…
/r/MensRights23/03/24 01:34 PM
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That's when you ask "So how often does that happen, where a woman was raped but she was the one imprisoned?"
/r/MensRights16/03/24 10:07 PM
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100% of 0% of no crimes are not uncommitted by not anyone who didn't not discommit no noncrimes.
/r/MensRights16/03/24 09:48 AM
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That's not how entrapment works.
/r/MensRights14/03/24 12:41 PM
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"The laws of the land are so fair, not even the king himself is permitted to sleep under bridges!”
/r/MensRights14/03/24 12:40 PM
6

Stop quibbling. Committing suicide means to be successful in a suicide attempt, iow die by suicide. Men are indeed 3-4x more likely to commit suicide.
/r/MensRights12/03/24 03:18 AM
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Why are men more likely to deliberately select suicide methods that are more likely to succeed? Corollary: Why is every feminist analysis multi layer and fault absolving for problems that affect women, but laughably one dimensional and super duper victim blamey when examining problems that affect men?
/r/MensRights12/03/24 12:35 AM
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A case where a woman murders her husband. I wonder if something like this shows up as an example of spousal murder in state-collected statistics. Based on the sentence it doesn't sound like she was convicted of murder.
/r/MensRights11/03/24 11:30 AM
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Overcompensation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compensation_(psychology)
/r/MensRights11/03/24 11:14 AM
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Once the kids arrive, as a man you're kinda locked in. The level of voluntary contribution in the relationship drops significantly, because you've always got the "family" court Sword of Damocles hanging over your head. It's a bit less simp at that point and a lot more like I don't really have a choice, do or die.
/r/MensRights07/03/24 02:22 PM
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Woman to man on date: "You going to pick up the check?" Man to woman: "Nah, I figured my contribution would be talking in my mind to shit that's not real. You brought your credit card though, right?"
/r/MensRights07/03/24 01:56 PM
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Oh no no no, we can't do that. It would discourage women from reporting actual rape. Y'know, the same way we don't arrest people for fraud because that would discourage people from reporting actual theft.
/r/MensRights07/03/24 01:42 PM
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I'm interested in seeing sources for this.
/r/MensRights04/03/24 01:53 PM
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That really compelling bit of relationship advice might be coming from a 15 y/o who happens to be above-the-mean articulate and you would never know it.
/r/MensRights03/03/24 03:04 PM
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Some women enjoyed their rape. It is nonetheless a violation of consent.
/r/MensRights22/02/24 05:16 PM
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But staying married to a woman who treats him like that will ravage his soul in ways that no amount of money can fix. You're not wrong. But compare that to permanent indigency, or homelessness, or prison, or permanently alienated from your kids... If you're married to a bitch at least you can go camping or play the occasional video game. Men are really between a rock and a hard place on this one
/r/MensRights19/02/24 01:09 AM
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The very large issue with American family courts is the way their punitive nature acts to trap men in relationships. It's incredibly expensive to get divorced, and after-expenses like "child" support and alimony (along with the sadistic punishments for non payment) make the outlook for men bleak. Less of an issue if you don't have kids, or (maybe) if you're wealthy, but even then a trip through the family court system is not something a wise man takes on a whim.
/r/MensRights18/02/24 08:45 PM
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"The patriarchy hurts men, too!" "How will the things that feminists advocate for fix this problem for men?" "Men need to fix their own problems!" "Great, so we'll establish this thing called the Men's Rights Movement-" "No, that's misogyny! Men just need more feminism!" "..."
/r/MensRights12/02/24 10:10 PM
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"One death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic."
/r/MensRights08/02/24 02:00 PM
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Follow the train of the discussion. It has shifted to a wider context. The next guy might not be gifted a follow up txt.
/r/MensRights04/02/24 05:14 PM
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No, more like "this part where I'm saying oh oh is where he put the gun to my head and whispered in my ear 'make oh oh noises', and I had to because the wild look of rage in his eyes made me afraid for my life and did I mention I have boobs and a vag?”
/r/MensRights04/02/24 12:37 PM
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Some women like being raped. They're both still violations of consent.
/r/MensRights01/02/24 02:25 AM
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"Hmm, maybe we shouldn't hire this person to work at our day care. She's a convicted pedophile and child trafficker." "OMG, personal attack, that's an ad hominem logical fallacy! Hire her!"
/r/MensRights01/02/24 02:21 AM
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Making it illegal to cut up little boys' genitals would also be a nice thing to have.
/r/MensRights27/01/24 05:42 PM
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But we're supposed to be all riled up over loss of abortion / abortion-related health care? Lol. "Women's reproductive health is in danger!" Yeah? Welcome to the fuckin' club.
/r/MensRights27/01/24 05:22 PM
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Imagine if courts were ordering women to continue to contribute to a defunct relationship, but not ordering men to do so. The feminists would lose their fucking minds. And they'd be right to. It's slavery. Feminists don't give a shit about men. Never let them tell you otherwise.
/r/MensRights27/01/24 11:33 AM
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You got downvoted but that is likely an accurate summary of what's going on in these videos. These come from a social media platform, and the true currency of the platform is eyeballs on screens. If you can get more views, likes, subs or whatever by doing a staged thing and pretending it's real, that is what content creators will do. That couples do the videos shouldn't necessarily be the bothersome aspect. What should be is whether or not videos like this get views and positive feedback, becaus…
/r/MensRights25/01/24 01:10 PM
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You have to be an AMPAS member to vote on Academy Awards. AMPAS is (probably) majority male currently, but that's changing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_of_Motion_Picture_Arts_and_Sciences
/r/MensRights25/01/24 12:53 PM
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The Oscars haven't happened yet. This is just the announcement of nominations.
/r/MensRights25/01/24 12:38 PM
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Your numbers are off a bit. Per FBI stats, boyfriends and husbands murder girlfriends and wives 4x as often as girlfriends and wives murder boyfriends and husbands. But unilateral domestic violence rates are about equal between men and women. The difference is likely explained by sexual dimorphism. If women could kill men more frequently, they probably would. Men are stronger than women so women succeed less often. Of course, there are confounds to the numbers. The female perpetrated dv murders …
/r/MensRights21/01/24 05:18 PM
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And there's always that "you didn't cater to my whims so I'm not on the side of MRAs anymore!" Really? That's too bad. Her powerful, unflagging dedication to human rights will be sorely missed.
/r/MensRights21/01/24 10:44 AM
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Perhaps you don't understand how oppressive it is to ...[checks notes]...do what you want.
/r/MensRights21/01/24 01:10 AM
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It often doesn't matter once he's been duped into signing the birth certificate in the hospital. And let's also not forget that if he doesn't sign, he's not the parent and can't demand a test be done. He would have to get a court order from the male-hostile family court (and pay all the various fees), in response to the mother claiming he is the father. Also, if they have prior children, he's alienated from them and the whole family court gauntlet is invoked. And if the FC can end-run around thi…
/r/MensRights20/01/24 11:21 PM
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She doesn't get to choose. She just has to sit there and like it.
/r/MensRights20/01/24 04:06 PM
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Toxic masculinity is nothing I herent to masculinity or manliness. This is the gaslighting argument, certainly. But the title suggests otherwise, and the concept in practice follows suit.
/r/MensRights15/01/24 04:40 PM
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The concepts are bigoted against men by design, and the bigotry of the titles accurately coveys this energy.
/r/MensRights15/01/24 04:24 PM
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I don't see anyone saying maleness/masculinity is poisonous. "Toxic masculinity" harmful to both sexes Yet the system is called "Patriarchy" which indicates the harm travels in only one direction and the benefits in the other. You cannot be so stupid that you do not see this.
/r/MensRights15/01/24 04:18 PM
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You don't see how names that say "men rule over women in a sexist way" and "maleness is poisonous" are perceived as negatives? Alrighty then.
/r/MensRights15/01/24 03:54 PM
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Those interested in promulgating the idea that everyone participates in sexism and sexism harms everyone (generously assuming that is the honest goal of feminists) are operating in bad faith when they select names for their overarching theories that implicate only men and denigrate men.
/r/MensRights15/01/24 03:49 PM
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A name like "Patriarchy" doesn't suggest that at all, it suggests that men control everything and people of good morality interested in fairness need to change society to take power away from men. Judging by the stats, looks like the name accomplished what it was designed to do.
/r/MensRights15/01/24 03:41 PM
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Patriarchy as a concept is sexist against everyone - it's the same reason that, say, divorce proceedings and child custody typically favor women. It's bad all around, in a way that is similar to "toxic masculinity." Oh look at that, yet another example of the bad faith with which feminists argue. Talk about society-wide gaslighting.
/r/MensRights15/01/24 03:22 PM
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A might not be paying child support because we don't know who he is. In our thought experiment, A exists because the state has found someone on whom to pin the CS order. It's still wrong though. Of course it's wrong, but the state isn't interested in right or wrong, it's interested in money. The right thing to do (if a government is doing the wrong thing of collecting cs from an individual) would at least be to make certain you've got the biological father paying. The money thing to do is slap a…
/r/MensRights14/01/24 05:44 AM
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What if father B doesn't pop up until two years later? Fifteen? Or what if he never pops up? Even if he shows up 15 hours later, that's still extra money that had to be spent. God forbid he's the 15th father. How much unrecoverable money spent by the state was that?
/r/MensRights13/01/24 05:17 PM
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The state government, which makes money from the feds for collecting child support, doesn't want stuff like that muddying the waters. Gets in the way of the grift.
/r/MensRights13/01/24 04:02 PM
2

You hate that your pants don't have pockets? well, who bought the pants? If women actually wanted pockets they could have pockets, and they could have them within a week, at the latest. All they need to do is go to 511 or just websearch "women's bdus". There are bdu/"tactical" pants tailored for women, and these pants have more storage compartments than a redneck has guns. But I never see them the next week wearing bdu pants. Huh. Guess they didn't really want pockets after all.
/r/MensRights09/01/24 03:47 PM
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The essential problem still remains that the divorced father is already paying for his kids. And your empty solution still forces him to pay into the mother's fund. Why are men forced to be beholden to women, and women are not even gently encouraged to give anything in return. And money's fungible, so you're not even close to guaranteeing that more money even goes to the child. It's pretty obvious you don't know much about the CS system. What are you going to do about the punitive nature of enfo…
/r/MensRights08/01/24 03:27 AM
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You can't better it. It is inherently flawed. Putting the financial responsibility for something like this on one individual is an insane financial burden. The man is already paying his fair share, and now he has to pay the woman's share, too? Society dictating that man who no longer has a relationship with a woman still needs to support that woman is sexist and malfeasant. Putting the burden for that on one person is usurious. If society feels that women need to be supported at some particular …
/r/MensRights07/01/24 10:18 PM
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No, I think it is YOU missing the fact that this is an extreme edge case, and this guy "agreeing" to avoid the extortionist clutches of the family courts doesn't address my observation in the least. The system is still there, ready and willing to force normal men into indigency and debtor's prison, whether or not a sportsball millionaire dodged a bullet.
/r/MensRights07/01/24 02:40 PM
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It's not "usurious" to demand If the amount of money is anything other than trivial, it's usurious. Subtracting an arbitrary 20% of a person's income every month is a big issue, and if you don't recognize that you're arguing from either a position of ignorance or extreme privilege. Let's also not forget -since you seem unconcerned with the financial welfare of men - how cs payments harm children and impoverish them as well. Are cs payments obviated when a man fathers other children with a new wo…
/r/MensRights07/01/24 04:35 AM
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These. These are the men we need to fight for!!! You're not fighting for them by defending the concept of "child" support. The whole corrupt, usurious, maladaptive system needs to be eliminated.
/r/MensRights07/01/24 01:14 AM
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For the people who make the "false accusations are bad because harder to believe" I like to agree and amplify. "I know what you mean. One of the primary problems with rape is that it makes it harder to believe men who have been falsely accused."
/r/MensRights23/12/23 06:55 AM
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Not that I know of. Haven't really looked into it.
/r/MensRights11/12/23 10:37 PM
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that I have told her I call “child support” The family courts may not see it that way. Just so you're aware, money paid other than directly through CS collection services need not be considered satisfaction of a CS debt. The State wants their cut, and they aren't going to be happy if you try to circumvent that. A shoe box of receipts or a print out of your bank records isn't going to count if the judge isn't feeling generous. You could end up paying that CS debt twice. Seriously mang, talk to a …
/r/MensRights11/12/23 09:03 PM
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Just a heads up, want to make sure you understand what you're getting into as a man when getting divorced when you have children. Have you talked to a divorce lawyer about this? Have you checked into what the CS payment schedule is like in your state, especially with kids who might have special needs? CS isn't like a regular bill; income imputation, non dischargeable, no bankruptcy escape, fees interest& penalties, license forfiture... That shit can put you behind the 8-ball really quick, might …
/r/MensRights11/12/23 07:54 PM
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Let's not forget the grinding stupidity and misery of "family" court. It plays a pretty big role in making the situation multiplicatively more awful than it would be otherwise. The alienation, extortion and forced indigency will probably kill a lot of men even if they have the backing of friends and family.
/r/MensRights11/12/23 07:42 PM
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It would be interesting to ask those sorts of people "What if someone prefers to never date someone who has been with a non-white? Is that also a 'preference' you're willing to defend?"
/r/MensRights11/12/23 02:45 PM
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You're saying all this is wrong, women on the whole are fine with dating bisexual men? Or that the methodologies are bad? The subject is essentially unknowable?
/r/MensRights03/12/23 07:15 PM
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It’s just weird that you believe husbands serve as bodyguards to their wives. I don't, that's the point. It's weird you believe women act as chefs and nannies and maids to their husbands, but if we're in cloud cuckoo land calculating how much money men owe women after divorce for "services rendered" then let's not play favorites. Are you going to disarm someone that comes to you with a gun Jfc, you cannot read. "Fighting off attackers!" Rare, almost never happens. "Fighting off gun-wielding atta…
/r/MensRights28/11/23 06:42 PM
2

Do you think professional bodyguards are "regularly fending off attackers"? Do you think smoke detectors need to be constantly detecting fires to be smoke detectors and have important safety utility? Do you think the primary benefit of a body guard might be deterrent in nature, same with, say, a man walking around the neighborhood with a woman? bodyguard thing is crazy The "women cooking dinner is like a professional chef" isn't? The whole goddamn idiot business is crazy, and it's disturbing you…
/r/MensRights28/11/23 06:17 PM
3

Since we're monetizing relationship behavior (and charging expert prices), how much would it cost per minute to call a chat line and natter on and on about family & office gossip, or who should win this season of The Single Baking Housewife Bachelor? How much does a therapist go for?
/r/MensRights28/11/23 02:11 PM
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there's a 1/1024 chance I wouldn't have encountered any of them. "It's impossible for that to be me, there would only be 324,000 people like that in the United States!" It's not crazy Just astoundingly ignorant.
/r/MensRights19/11/23 12:49 AM
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You can't be so stupid as to not understand that your personal experiences are not universal. An idea could be so common that 50% of the population has encountered it, but that would still mean it's a coin toss whether or not any one particular individual has encountered it. If nothing else, It should be obvious from the grammatical form of the original post that the poster is ESL, thus born and raised in a different country and culture from whatever English language nation you hail from.
/r/MensRights18/11/23 09:37 PM
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The remaining 13% was the third gender, Bored.
/r/MensRights15/11/23 12:08 PM
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And this is the sort of delusional attitude men and women have to deal with when struggling for men's rights. Congrats on making the world a worse place to live
/r/MensRights29/10/23 02:15 PM
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Nope [etc] You can only address my points by pretending they don't exist, it seems. Mediocre. You will of course lack proof Oh, the irony.
/r/MensRights29/10/23 02:06 PM
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Males commit over 95% of murders. Not intimate partner, where women commit more like 20%. And of course there are confounds for this number, like solicited murder, female CJS discount, "burning bed" ideology and so forth. Males invented circumcision. Questionable. But also irrelevant in the 21st C. when women can and do insist on it for their children and there is nothing to stop them. Compare and contrast to parents who might insist on genitally mutilating their children. Where are the feminist…
/r/MensRights29/10/23 01:56 PM
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Not really. Wives and girlfriends murder their husbands and boyfriends. Women hold positions of authority in the workplace, military and criminal justice system. They insist on circumcision. And they certainly play a role in homelessness and debtors prisons via divorce rape.
/r/MensRights29/10/23 06:26 AM
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mutual agreement Once the courts step in, "mutual agreement" goes away, the man is forced to pay and gets nothing in return. What they agreed to while together is irrelevant now that they're split up. She made a lazy, self serving decision. Kinda stupid to think it should be the man's forced responsibility to unfuck the fuck up of what amounts to (at this point) a stranger. One year of alimony One year is plenty of time to force a man into indegency. If society thinks this is super duper importa…
/r/MensRights26/10/23 01:19 PM
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If there is no incentive for women to divorce, a lot of lawyers and other family court parasites stand to lose a lot of money.
/r/MensRights26/10/23 12:51 PM
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Countless laws have been written that encourage women to stalk (and then extort) their ex husbands. Your concern is irrelevant.
/r/MensRights26/10/23 12:46 PM
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Putting the responsibility for financial support on the shoulders of an individual is extortive, and grossly unfair. If society thinks that women who make briefly inoptimum career decisions need to be supported at some arbitrary financial level post breakup then society can foot the bill.
/r/MensRights26/10/23 12:37 PM
6

we just going to do downvotes because I believe this gap should be studied instead of ignored? No. You're getting downvoted because it looks like you're behaving dishonestly. The issue has been studied. OP even gave you a link. But you talk as if it has not been studied and you have not been pointed towards relevant information that answers your basic af questions. It looks like you're acting in bad faith.
/r/MensRights24/10/23 02:55 PM
1

the mammogram would be just as uncomfortable if it had been invented by a woman Ok, but she wrote "man" in all caps. QED
/r/MensRights21/10/23 10:00 AM
11

Let's not forget the risks women pose to men. Induction of suicide via divorce rape. Risk of imprisonment, assault or death from false rape accusations. And of course, women also assault and murder their husbands and boyfriends.
/r/MensRights16/10/23 03:02 AM
14

Surely you see the part your own unpleasant attitude and obtuse refusals plays in this.
/r/MensRights15/10/23 03:00 PM
11

I'd also add that it tries to tag quite a few behaviors as "domestic violence" that really don't warrant the label. They seem more like things that could be rude or annoying. Or things you would do in a relationship where one person was the dominant, "take charge" partner.
/r/MensRights11/10/23 08:53 PM
9

You and that comment above do more to hurt men than any legal system does today. If you were to find yourself under a child support order in the US, you would immediately realize how dumb this was to say.
/r/MensRights01/10/23 03:10 PM
1

what do you think her reaction would have been to "Abortion Rights Now!" Or an "end female circumcision" message?
/r/MensRights27/09/23 08:49 PM
1

Sexual roleplay and kink do not (necessarily) unilaterally dominate an individual's personality. It's quite possible to compartmentalize these things.
/r/MensRights25/09/23 10:50 AM
4

Per the usual feminist playbook. They mouth platitudes about how feminism is for everyone, men don't need an MRA movement, men just need more feminism and so forth. But when it comes time to actually advocate for men we get minimization, rationalization, victim-blaming and of course actual feminist-originated oppression like the Duluth model, FBI rape definitions, disruption of conventions, bomb threats for DV shelters, CS debtors prisons...
/r/MensRights18/09/23 08:00 AM
2

I know of the kickbacks the states get from the feds, but I had not ever heard of state kickbacks to private practice lawyers. Do you have a source for this?
/r/MensRights16/09/23 04:56 PM
3

1800 a month for one kid, goddamn. Insanity.
/r/MensRights16/09/23 12:32 PM
2

Can you say more about this?
/r/MensRights16/09/23 12:25 PM
4

The feds pay states to collect child support. It's a source of income. I've also heard rumors that states use that money as a rolling investment source, since there's a delay between collections and payout. Also also, there's an entire industry based on people getting divorced. Lawyers, judges, office workers, GALs, psychologists, family court advisors, supervised visitation workers and facilities...if there aren't wonderful cash prizes being paid out to women via family court, those women might…
/r/MensRights16/09/23 12:25 PM
8

"An observer chimes in" isn't exactly a fantastical occurrence, either. It might help your case to state the specific details that make you think the whole incident is fabricated.
/r/MensRights27/08/23 03:45 PM
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Women are being jailed for getting abortions? Welcome to the club!
/r/MensRights02/08/23 12:05 PM
2

The bread winner directly helped the wife, covering all necessities. And entertainment expenses! Is he going to get reimbursed for that, post relationship?
/r/MensRights02/08/23 12:01 PM
23

Or moms that deliberately alienated the "shitty" dad.
/r/MensRights02/08/23 11:15 AM
11

And keep in mind that fathers who see their children are already supporting them. It's not like he doesn't have the same bills she does. He needs a place to live with bedrooms, electricity, running water, food, a car with insurance, health insurance (and it's probably him with the kids on his plan). The landlord doesn't give him a discount on his rent because he only sees his kids 4 days a month.
/r/MensRights31/07/23 12:57 PM
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Or murder statistics. Or workplace death statistics. Or prison statistics. Homelessness. Childhood genital mutilation. Debtors prisons. War deaths.
/r/MensRights28/07/23 12:57 PM
2

Hyperbole, iow.
/r/MensRights14/07/23 07:21 PM
2

Seems unlikely You might not be thinking of some other possible motivations. False accusations can hide infidelity or types of sex from figures of authority that would disapprove ("if my dad/mom/pastor finds out I had premarital sex/fucked a black guy/was doing groupie sex they'd kill me!"). They can also be used as attempts to jump start donation campaigns or social media presences. There might be poor job or school performance or and an FRA was used as a cover. There's also the sociopath expla…
/r/MensRights14/07/23 07:15 PM
1

I think your major road block here is that you can't seem to distinguish between "rare" and "impossible". You understand that it is very rare to e.g. see an albino animal. But hopefully you also understand that someone, somewhere out there will have an albino animal sighting. Even though it's rare. Before even looking, I know I'll find pictures of albino moose in an image search. Have you never heard of the hipster aesthetic? Paper and pens and pencils are still really available in multiple stor…
/r/MensRights11/07/23 04:35 PM
5

Aka "mate guarding".
/r/MensRights11/07/23 03:34 PM
3

It's not? How so?
/r/MensRights11/07/23 03:29 PM
4

The downvotes, I suspect, are because the explanation imputes noble motivations. This is interpreted as white-knight-ish. MRM sub is well aware of the WAW effect, and downvotes as a counter measure.
/r/MensRights11/07/23 03:11 PM
4

I'm guessing that it's more about fear and vulnerabiliy Another possible motivator, not quite as generous but still realistic, is jealousy.
/r/MensRights11/07/23 03:04 PM
3

You're missing some important stuff in here, like child custody, child support, usurious enforcement of same and CS debtors prison.
/r/MensRights04/07/23 04:18 PM
1

Ah, so he is.
/r/MensRights20/06/23 03:42 PM
1

Claire's Law seems to be a UK/Australia/Canada thing, not relevant to op who appears to be from the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clare's_Law
/r/MensRights20/06/23 03:01 PM
4

Regarding medical diagnosis divorce, did it occur to you that one common motivation for this would be to reduce the woman's income to zero? Compensation for her bills could then be facilitated via government assistance. Or did you automatically assume the worst about the men in that study?
/r/MensRights02/06/23 10:44 PM
8

"she’s not yours, it’s just your turn”. Actually stop and really think about that. Seems misogynistic to disagree with this. She's not your property, you don't own her, "she's not yours". If the relationship ends, she's going to go date someone else, just like she was with someone before she met you, and you were with someone before her. That time period was "your turn". And you're going to date someone else too, and your time with that chick with be "your turn" there. This realization can help …
/r/MensRights02/06/23 09:27 PM
0

https://calmatters.org/justice/2021/03/waiting-for-justice/
/r/MensRights24/05/23 10:24 PM
6

Child Support. IOW, who is court ordered to pay it more frequently and how much they are ordered to pay. If any type of US legal institution was ordering women to fork over money to men the way family courts order men to pay women, the feminists would be going absolutely bananas about it.
/r/MensRights07/05/23 05:11 PM
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Feminists on the wage gap: conflict theory conflict theory conflict theory. Feminists on the college gap, the suicide gap, the homeless gap, the prison gap, the workplace death gap, the murder gap, the custody gap, the CS gap or the alimony gap: a magical transformation into structural-functional social analysts.
/r/MensRights07/05/23 02:18 PM
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Another thing to keep in mind is that Americans have usurious health care systems. Some of those "husbands leave their sick wives" situations are done to qualify for financial aid or to compartmentalize household resources.
/r/MensRights21/04/23 10:58 PM
1

Saying "men are naturally industrious so you should work" is just as logically fallacious (or not) as saying "men are naturally egalitarian so you should avoid hierarchical organizations". It might be more that these statements are hasty generalizations, because it does seem logically consistent to me to say that an industrious/egalitarian sapient organism would experience psychological stress if it were forced into an idle/hierarchical situation.
/r/MensRights14/04/23 01:19 AM
2

The "subtract 15% and repost verbatim" technique, a definite winner.
/r/MensRights01/04/23 08:26 PM
8

I'm also 42, and my house has never caught fire. So take those smoke alarms and fire extinguishers and just throw them away, I suppose.
/r/MensRights01/04/23 11:26 AM
5

What Harvey Weinstein had to do behind closed doors, Jenny McCarthy did on the stage of an award show to applause. Women swim in a sea of privilege.
/r/MensRights01/04/23 11:24 AM
3

It is a little bit crazy to say these movies are "suppressed". Logan's Run made $25 million at the box office, in 1976. That's something like 125 million in 2023 dollars. Roller Ball made $30 million in 1975. A Boy and His Dog was put out by a tiny, independent production company. Brazil is a Terry Gilliam movie. He's always had a little trouble with commercial success, but Brazil apparently had a lot of corpo interference which led to limited runs. Those four are all cult classics, lots of peop…
/r/MensRights28/03/23 04:26 AM
1

I just read it. Which part(s) do you think is (are) damning?
/r/MensRights21/03/23 03:23 PM
1

It may very well be that the cop detected a lie and was putting in minimal effort on this "case", or even doing something to help OP out. Cops are also entirely capable of being gigantic incompetent dumb shits, so "that wouldn't be a very smart move" is not dispositive of police behavior.
/r/MensRights16/03/23 01:33 PM
2

Your capitulation is duly noted.
/r/MensRights08/03/23 07:20 PM
2

Translation: "I, elegantlywasted, was super wrong in a super obvious way. But I lack the courage to admit that, so here is my distraction attempt."
/r/MensRights08/03/23 01:42 PM
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Your goofy argument does collapse with the tiniest amount of examination, doesn't it.
/r/MensRights08/03/23 01:42 PM
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And taking care of her own kids. Both of which she would have to do anyway if he squirted in her twice six years apart and disappeared. Isn't that a funny little arrangement.
/r/MensRights08/03/23 08:11 AM
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one just wasn’t remunerated. Got to live and play for free with a rich guy, and gets a hefty payment afterward, even though she no longer has to hold up her end of the bargain. She got remunerated up one side and down the other.
/r/MensRights08/03/23 08:06 AM
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Yeah, and he allowed her to do it rent free and utility free, and picked up all her entertainment expenses. May have given her an allowance, too. If we're going to tally up dollars after the fact, let's not look at just one small part of the exchange. Let's look at the whole package.
/r/MensRights08/03/23 07:50 AM
5

Oh, one of those "the hardest job in the world is being a mom" blatherings. That super hard job that gives you an 8-15 hour break in the middle of the day from the age of 6 onward.
/r/MensRights01/03/23 03:55 AM
1

Oh I'm sure. There are always exceptional examples in any population. But you're going to have to go out on the left side of the woman strength bell curve before you hit the mean on the man strength bell curve.
/r/MensRights01/03/23 02:32 AM
1

No such modern PACs during suffrage Humans are sapient social animals, and we are sexually dimorphous. We have an innate sense of fairness, and the males have a tendency to "protect and coddle" the females. That's why women got the vote, and that's why they got the favoritism. You dodged the A hilarious accusation coming from the ding-dong baffled by the hows and whys of the passage of special interest legislation.
/r/MensRights27/02/23 12:29 AM
3

And the fundie xian advocacy groups play no role in this, in your world construction?
/r/MensRights26/02/23 03:53 PM
3

This is not how things work. That is exactly how things work, I should not have to explain this to an adult. Advocacy groups advocate for positions and motivate politicians to cater to those positions or risk losing their jobs or the money the groups provide. Do you think people in the US don't vote on politicians? Do you think PACs and lobby groups don't exist? How, then, did women get the right to vote without having the full responsibilities associated with that right? Oh no, an unfair law wa…
/r/MensRights26/02/23 03:27 PM
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"The fundie xians are completely blameless for the bans on abortion and transitioning and drag shows in the fundie xian states, it's entirely the politicians' fault." It's like you don't understand how politics works. Are you literally a child?
/r/MensRights26/02/23 03:17 PM
5

The women's rights movement was and is driven primarily by women and (after the 19th Amendment) the voting block they represent.
/r/MensRights26/02/23 02:37 PM
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No, laws are passed by politicians... ...at the behest of advocacy groups, some of which are feminist. Of the feminist groups - who will be primarily concerned with how family courts and laws operate - what is the male/female makeup of these organizations?
/r/MensRights26/02/23 02:29 PM
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The example that jumps right to my mind is that infant genital mutilation is illegal...if you're born a woman. Tax breaks for diversity are coded into law. It gets a little fuzzier when talking about Duluth model, "primary aggressor", and family court decision making. The DV stuff isn't law per se, but it's encoded in the training. The family court stuff is law, but worded in a surficially gender neutral way. Of course, you can get a discriminatory effect without having strictly discriminatory l…
/r/MensRights26/02/23 02:21 PM
6

Love that "burning bed syndrome", aka free pass to murder your husband if you lie about dv afterwards.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 05:47 PM
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A woman who honestly thinks she can challenge a man in a physical fight is in for a rude awakening. It might be because their only frame of reference is play wrestling their boyfriend, who's operating at 20% capacity (so he doesn't hurt her).
/r/MensRights25/02/23 05:37 PM
2

In the great big scheme of things women don't do shit. Let's not go crazy in the other direction. Humans are dimorphous and cooperative. Both are needed.
/r/MensRights20/02/23 05:01 PM
4

Men sure have put women through a lot. Houses, electricity, running water, sewer systems (benefiting from them, not actually being near them), shipped goods, medical care, college...
/r/MensRights20/02/23 03:36 PM
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saying "if men stopped being so toxic and just spoke about their feelings this wouldnt happen" Don't forget the "men commit suicide more because they use guns" victim blaming. "If they'd just stop being so toxically masculine about killing themselves, they wouldn't die as much!" seems to be the subtext.
/r/MensRights14/02/23 11:08 PM
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there's a bit of a power dynamic People always say this when it's an older man dating a younger woman. But it's weird these same people never object to the obvious power imbalance relationship of an about-the-same-status woman marrying an about-the-same-status man. Or even worse, a woman having kids with a man. The supposed revulsion seems to evaporate when it's women wielding disproportionate relationship power.
/r/MensRights11/02/23 07:56 PM
5

Seems like she might be a little bit anxious about losing her bi girlfriend.
/r/MensRights11/02/23 04:37 AM
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Every factor she cites in support of her hypothesis applies equally if not moreso to men. Does she think society as a whole hates lesbians and the concept of lesbianism or lesbian sex but is totally cool and fully accepting of male homosexuality? Does she think men are not held to rigid gender norms, or norms regarding sex and dating? If these social factors ostensibly turn consenting sex into rape, she better watch the fuck out, or she's gonna find herself placed firmly in the sexual offender c…
/r/MensRights10/02/23 09:11 PM
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People probably aren't looking at legal definitions when they're citing rape statistics, they're looking at statistics gathering sources like the FBI UCR. Does the UCR define "made to penetrate" by a woman on a man as rape? We also have to keep in mind how recent these legal changes are, and how legal changes won't be immediately reflected in data collected. So when someone says "most rapists are men" it makes sense to respond that legal definitions are a large factor in that.
/r/MensRights09/02/23 01:46 PM
12

A humblebrag.
/r/MensRights05/02/23 02:49 AM
0

"transphobia" is not a thing. If someone sees a trans man or a trans woman and says "That is an abomination, that person is a thing with no human rights and should be put in a concentration camp and worked to death" what is that then, if it's not trans phobia? Scientifically impossible Humans are sexually dimorphous. Humans are also social animals, whose species success traits includes cooperation. Human gendered behavior is probably mostly instinctual, and thus subject to the various factors th…
/r/MensRights28/01/23 02:07 PM
3

Two people going on a single date is the teeniest step toward finding a partner And yet, still fraud if you take that step with the intention of just getting a free meal.
/r/MensRights26/01/23 03:27 AM
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"Exactly!" says the Proud boy, agreeing with u/Sleazyridr. "When I say 'toxic blackness' I don't mean all blacks are toxic, I mean it in the same way you do."
/r/MensRights22/01/23 01:27 PM
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That really depends on the circumstances. If you have kids it applies in spades. But there's the risk of alimony, giving up part of your retirement, losing your house or your car, these are all real possible outcomes from a low conflict divorce. If she decides to falsely accuse (and its a win button in family courts, lawyers push for this, don't be surprised to see it), start looking at spending more money, TROs that remove you from the house, possible jail time. It's great when it's great, but …
/r/MensRights16/01/23 04:15 PM
3

What kind of life are you living I don't have to be personally affected to want to right a wrong. Surely you're not such a selfish piece of shit that you don't understand this. If you think it's a bad idea, you can just explain it to them on why you think it is. I love the irony here. "Just tell them!" whines the guy who minimizes and denies the problems when told about them. You don't have to commit a crime in the process. It's only a crime insofar as a government chooses to prosecute and punis…
/r/MensRights14/01/23 08:52 PM
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If I were a criminal, lying would be the least of my sins. Yes, the terrible criminal sin of doing drugs. What would Ronald and Nancy think. As I suspected, you were not able to engage seriously with these ideas. Understandable, they show how stupid your own ideas appear. As has already been pointed out to you, there is a difference between initiating with a technique and responding in kind in self defense. IOW, you're not a bad person or betraying any rational ideals if you use a knife to stab …
/r/MensRights14/01/23 04:23 PM
5

The Gestapo shows up at your front door and asks if you've got Anne Frank stashed away in your attic. Do you lie to them or not? You're pulled over for speeding and the cop routinely asks you if you have any drugs. You do in fact have a tab of lsd hidden in the trunk in a place where you know the cop will never look. Do you tell him the truth and willingly submit yourself to the jaws of the CJS? Or do you lie? See, there's more to it than a simplistic "Don't lie". In your rush to manufacture a "…
/r/MensRights14/01/23 03:42 PM
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Your argument is quite a lot like a klannie complaining that normal people won't tolerate their intolerance. "Don't falsely accuse" isn't a moral precept, it's a peace treaty. Violate the treaty, prepare for war.
/r/MensRights14/01/23 02:46 PM
3

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4062022/
/r/MensRights11/01/23 10:39 PM
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people who present femme get raped on the streets Men are also victims of sexual assault, about as frequently as women. Men are also murdered 3x as frequently as women. Men also comprise 90% of the prison population, and don't get the female prison sentence discount. You maybe able to find some broad area somewhere where men are privileged over women, but crime and the CJS sure as shit ain't it.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 04:46 AM
20

Had a friend who did penetration testing. His magic key was a box of 3-ring binders.
/r/MensRights10/01/23 05:46 AM
2

Ah, I see what you're saying. It just seemed like a comment way out of left field. A better way to word it would have been "women get period pain, but i wouldn't want some hypothetical equivalent forced on me." Of course, no one is arguing that mandatory testing be done for "tit for tat" reasons. Not sure why you're attacking that particular straw man.
/r/MensRights25/12/22 07:13 PM
3

I also don't want to have period-pain. ?
/r/MensRights25/12/22 07:02 PM
4

ovaryacting That is an excellent term, anyone downvoting you is a fool.
/r/MensRights24/12/22 05:43 PM
34

Let me know when they stop using "incel" as an insult. Talk about sex shaming.
/r/MensRights21/12/22 12:54 PM
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Do women who churn out schlock not understand what a turn off (to doing chores) it is when they write these bitchy articles and can't distinguish between various homophones? Hey Jennifer, get a handle on written grammar and maybe your boyfriend will scoop the litter box.
/r/MensRights15/12/22 03:05 PM
26

If women really and honestly were as interested in sex as men, had the same type and style of libido, you'd see a lot more women at the porno shop glory holes. But you don't.
/r/MensRights15/12/22 02:52 PM
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As you say, there's no law that classify it as a crime Idk, it does seem like the legal definition of fraud would apply in cases like this if it were applied agnostically. https://www.armstronglegal.com.au/criminal-law/wa/offences/fraud-offences/
/r/MensRights07/12/22 01:45 PM
1

https://www.aclutx.org/en/know-your-rights/abortion-texas#:~:text=Texas%20bans%20abortions%20at%20all,that%20involve%20rape%20or%20incest.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 03:48 PM
1

Good news, you don't have to. It exists for real right now in the US.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 09:32 AM
1

I will gladly do the maths IOW, you made it up. TX by itself is 30 million people, you donut.
/r/MensRights04/12/22 01:54 AM
1

The states in which abortion is completely banned doesn't even account for 0.01% Really? Let's see some numbers, then. Break it down for me. Or did you just manufacture that number, like a feminist? While you're at it, explain the reasoning behind thinking that just because government malfeasance affects "only" 75,000 of your made-up-number people, that those people aren't still affected by the malfeasance. No substantive response to my sourced claim, I note. that's not what I said. That is exac…
/r/MensRights04/12/22 01:36 AM
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you can't claim oppression because "no abortion" when you have so many alternatives, Bullshit you can't. A right to abortion is a right to bodily autonomy. Pretty much everywhere abortion is legal for rape , False. https://www.vox.com/23271352/rape-and-incest-abortion-exception But even your false statement acknowledges the lack of exemptions exist somewhere. The places were abortion is restricted are mostly because of women Why does that matter? Are you one of those logical fallacy types who th…
/r/MensRights04/12/22 01:00 AM
-1

Even if you can't bring up a real world example, surely you could imagine some realistic hypotheticals.
/r/MensRights03/12/22 10:57 PM
-5

Abortion is legal in majority of western countries Where it's not, my observation still applies. even if it is illegal there are many contraceptives Irrelevant in the case of rape, medical indication, or where birth control has failed. Also irrelevant if bc wasn't used.
/r/MensRights03/12/22 10:55 PM
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Being denied abortion puts women in a relatively similar boat to men, and the way the US treats CS payors is sure as hell bad news. Seems like oppression to me, especially when there is no exception for rape or medical indication.
/r/MensRights03/12/22 09:13 PM
1

If We the People think children need to be supported at some certain level, then We the People need to foot the bill. It's incredibly malfeasant to put a huge cost like that onto the shoulders of an individual, especially so given the punitive punishments attached to non-payment.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 02:02 PM
-1

At these wealth levels, transfer of this amount of money is trivial. The kardashian children aren't going to bed hungry if the black nazi doesn't promptly fork over his 200k every month. The only party who actually truly cares about the money moving is the State, who gets to wet it's beak on the transfer.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 01:54 PM
3

What? If anything, you should give the least amount of shit about this instance. The guy is a multi millionaire, he's not making hard choices about food vs utility bills after paying his CS. The people to be concerned about are the men for whom -20% is a significant chunk of their income.
/r/MensRights01/12/22 01:45 PM
2

that's not being discussed here though Yes it is, we're discussing it right now. there are many comments here speaking bad about women Why do you think it is "bad" to speak in generalities, especially when - in general - the subject of the discussion is generally responsible for the behavior? Is it somehow bad to talk about purple with prior criminal convictions when discussing crime? Is it prejudicial to mention pitbulls when discussing fatal dog attacks?
/r/MensRights25/11/22 12:38 AM
2

So many things wrong here. Advocacy doesn't equal state of being. Adults who advocate for children are not children. Lots of women do not self-identify as feminists and do not agree with feminist ideals. Feminists often do not advocate based on equality of the sexes. To think that "all" people of a broad type think in a particular way is delusional. How do you get so many things wrong in just two sentences? smh
/r/MensRights23/11/22 08:34 PM
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Didn’t intend to abandon it You probably should have. Your reasoning is an argument by association logical fallacy, and extremely tenuous at that. But hey, you use logical fallacies just like Matt Gaetz, so I guess you're a pedophile like him, eh? According to your own goofy reasoning. Entire refers to all feminists You used entire. The person you responded to did not. Your strawman. QED And feminism still != women. You left that aspect of your foolishness completely unaddressed.
/r/MensRights23/11/22 08:13 PM
2

So you've completely abandoned the "all lives matter" accusation? It didn't get the response you were hoping for? Surely it's not because you're not debating in good faith.
/r/MensRights23/11/22 07:20 PM
2

I know I've won the debate when the other guy resorts to laughably stupid personal attacks. Heh
/r/MensRights23/11/22 06:23 PM
3

a) feminism != women b) "entire" is a transparent strawman
/r/MensRights23/11/22 06:00 PM
3

I mean this comment is pretty much what they’re talking about. And that comment doesn't bash women. A non-existent problem, as usual.
/r/MensRights23/11/22 05:45 PM
3

this isn't exactly talking nice about women Is that your honest opinion? You're super offended when people speak in generalities? If so, you're going to absolutely shit yourself when you start looking into how women speak when the subject of sexual assault comes up.
/r/MensRights23/11/22 05:40 PM
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We're not the ones doing the lumping.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 12:22 PM
1

Saying ‘men are rapists because they don’t see women as people’ is misandry. Wow, great point. Looking forward to your efforts to let the wider society know.
/r/MensRights21/11/22 05:28 PM
2

How awful. Truly a human rights violation.
/r/MensRights19/11/22 01:37 PM
3

I already did. And you have no response. You lose.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 11:23 AM
2

I see you couldn't respond to any of my points. You lose.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 11:22 AM
2

Quibble. Weak.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 11:17 AM
5

I didn't at any point say these murders didn't happen. Then why bring up the sex of the perpetrator, as if it does?
/r/MensRights13/11/22 11:10 AM
2

Are you too stupid to realize you responded to me twice? Pull your head out.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 11:03 AM
3

Please explain why you are double posting.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 09:43 AM
2

I quoted your words exactly. They are not taken out of context.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 09:43 AM
14

Men are more likely to be murdered by men Oh never mind then, I guess those murders didn't happen.
/r/MensRights13/11/22 01:56 AM
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Men are five times as likely to be mudered as women. Interesting that your attention is toward crimes perpetrated on women, vs crimes perpetrated on men, isn't it?
/r/MensRights12/11/22 10:45 PM
0

I still don't understand her motive behind whats she did, "This guy won't give me money. If I cycle him out, maybe the next guy will."
/r/MensRights12/11/22 12:26 PM
22

When you consistently ask the same questions in bad faith Really? Every single time is a bad faith question? MRAs have never (or rarely) had a good point or made a reasonable objection?
/r/MensRights05/11/22 02:50 PM
1

It probably depends on what the work life of a particular person is. Are they in the military or working in a cannery or a slaughter house? Are their co-workers generally sane and relatable? Do they have major beef and stress related to co worker or supervisor conflict? Being a sahm is probably worse than a super chill officer job with great pay, benefits, flex hours, meaning and awesome coworkers, but considerably better compared to, say, punching a clock in a fast food joint or an industrial l…
/r/MensRights28/10/22 03:30 PM
4

For example I the US what on earth is Alimony & why would a divorced working woman need her ex husbands money? She doesn't need it, but the various parasites in family court do. If these socio-legal punji pits didn't exist, no one would ever willingly pay a divorce attorney $250 - $1000+ an hour or stand in front of a self righteous family court judge.
/r/MensRights28/10/22 10:40 AM
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There is no way the cops will take "her" side because this is a 419 scammer, probably posting from somewhere like Nigeria. You can either ignore it or if you're feeling froggy then fuck with them, a la 419eater.com.
/r/MensRights13/10/22 03:48 AM
2

Nope, it was just a comparison of the two types of bigotry. You should read more carefully, engage in less bigotry.
/r/MensRights11/10/22 04:28 AM
1

Isn't it weird when the crime of false rape accusation comes up, people can't help but talk about how this crime inconveniences women, women who aren't even directly affected by it? Imagine a woman talking about being raped and someone chimes in with "The crime of actual rape is so awful, every real rape makes it that much harder to exonerate men looking at a false rape accusation."
/r/MensRights10/10/22 04:39 PM
2

Some people just like to get high on hate. You sure you're not one of them?
/r/MensRights08/10/22 11:11 AM
1

QED
/r/MensRights07/10/22 12:20 PM
3

Sure, a turn of phrase used for 200 years "Deadbeat" originated in the 19th Century. "Deadbeat dad" is far more recent. That's not really logical now is it. And yet you're unable to point out the logical fallacy. "Disagree with the definition of a word" lol. I argued you into a corner, you're unable to counter any of my claims. It's now the part of the debate where you stubbornly ignore anything I say so you don't have to admit to yourself you're wrong. The usual ho hum from idiots.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 12:12 PM
2

It's not Propaganda at all It indeed is, and it worked on you. it's not biased Right in the name, deadbeat dad. misleading It is deliberately misleading, as we will see shortly... as a father who spent 2 days a year with his son ...your very next words, as it turns out, since you yourself admit you have zero idea whether this was his choice or it was the result of parental alienation. If you have no evidence, you can't rationally make a decision one way or the other, right? But not to worry, the…
/r/MensRights07/10/22 11:42 AM
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I mean when women and men tell you every day you are a loser and scum and creepy what the hell do they think the result will be? Indeed. One might ask those who bash "incels" - especially those who call themselves feminists - why they seem so keen to engage in sex-shaming. You might also wonder why they're more than happy to attack men who (apparently) don't have enough sex when they would bristle at the idea of attacking a woman for having too much sex.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 04:02 AM
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The tendency to shame and hate "incels" - even if we're talking about the type of person who would develop misogyny over it - never did sit well with me. It always seems to me like just about the epitome of punching down. The person who just absolutely cannot navigate social situations such that they have never had a romantic relationship or even an ONS has got to be a really miserable person, given that humans are social animals.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 03:43 AM
14

He's comparing the bigots to antisemites. In the future, read more carefully, engage in less bigotry.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 03:35 AM
2

"Deadbeat dad" is a propaganda term. It's used to emotionally manipulate people to take actions not in their own best interest or in the best interest of their child. Does society think divorced women should be supported at some arbitrary financial level above and beyond their own means? Then society can foot the bill, not malfeasantly force the bill onto one individual. Also "simple calculation" seems inaccurate, given how the amount owed has jumped around.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 02:47 AM
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if he refused to pay child support I don't exactly have faith he was capable of being a good father. Goofy inference. He might not have been able to pay, given how usurious it is. Even if he could, CS is manufactured, sexist and malfeasant. Seems out of touch with reality to judge someone negatively for non-payment of it.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 07:31 PM
4

Was that visitation schedule his choice?
/r/MensRights06/10/22 07:19 PM
3

Why not? It's bullshit, usurious, malfeasant, sexist fake debt. Dodging cs payments is like dodging the vietnam draft or avoiding a marijuana prison sentence. Good on ya if you slip that particular noose. To the hit-and-run chickenshit below: doesn't financially support Why is financial support paid through the government the only good a father can do in their child's life? No other type of support is worth any consideration? Assuming we're not talking about a case of parental alienation, of cou…
/r/MensRights06/10/22 07:02 PM
3

Your cowardice is duly noted.
/r/MensRights04/10/22 06:42 PM
3

Your cowardice is duly noted.
/r/MensRights04/10/22 06:36 PM
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That's not your mistake. Your sin is being confronted with a valid argument and then folding like an origami quitter.
/r/MensRights04/10/22 03:26 PM
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You're "talking like" a bigot because you are a bigot. The little kids in this classroom haven't done a goddamned thing to you or anyone else, and you're acting with full apex fallacy engaged. not get murdered This is pretty funny coming from the gender exclusively guilty of the false rape accusation crime and murder via divorce rape and suicide. (Symptoms of your empathy gap, i.e. bigoted self absorption) Also, women murder their romantic partners directly in significant numbers, so this isn't …
/r/MensRights03/10/22 02:38 PM
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Damn these century-spanning grade-school children!
/r/MensRights03/10/22 05:22 AM
45

Women Are Wonderful cognitive bias.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 08:47 PM
6

I mean you indicated in a way IOW, you are completely full of shit.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 02:51 AM
1

MGTOW is literally a hate group QED
/r/MensRights14/09/22 11:24 PM
4

That women receive significantly more positive response on job applications in the US is a plausible hypothesis. It could be a model that explains my recent experience job hunting. The idea that a woman anywhere in the US would be officially told sexist abuse by a business is a fantasy written by a child who does not yet understand how the world works. Does OP have issues? Sure. 'Stay in the kitchen' issues? No.
/r/MensRights13/09/22 10:23 AM
5

Ah yes, those HR departments (an industry dominated by women) that called you back to tell you to "stay in the kitchen". Super-duper believable.
/r/MensRights13/09/22 09:39 AM
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there is a point where it becomes antagonistic and nonproductive You appear to be the only person in this context who actually cares. So I'm going to suggest that this point is not that point.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 01:21 AM
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Who was disagreeing? We are, with feminist dogma. Obviously. "No women have accomplished anything ever and they deserve nothing." Seems like an excessive, strawmanish conclusion to draw.
/r/MensRights05/09/22 10:02 PM
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We're going to catch hell no matter how politely we phrase our disagreements, which see the reception that Erin Pizzey got. Do you think she was using "pussy" as a synecdoche for women? Or was it because she said men could be DV victims, too? Police your own language if you want, I guess, for all the good it will do.
/r/MensRights05/09/22 05:08 PM
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We have to keep in mind the base psychological cognitive bias that humans have. Women have an in-group bias for women, and men have an out-group bias for women. All other things equal, this is how a selection process will go. Saying "her pussy was responsible for her success" may be crude, but it is ultimately correct.
/r/MensRights05/09/22 04:17 PM
3

Or could it be that we made differing experiences? On one hand, you recognize the scope of your experience is limited. On the other, you cite the scope of your experience as evidence?
/r/MensRights05/09/22 04:05 PM
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Not really the same thing. We know for a fact that (all else equal) women are less capable along several physical metrics than men. Thus we know for a fact there will be physical job requirements women will not be able to meet that men will. There's a reason men and women don't compete against each other in professional sports, and why the military has a set of standards for women that are lower than for men. Violent criminal behavior, otoh, is much more a "switch on switch off" characteristic. …
/r/MensRights31/08/22 12:44 PM
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You must admit, your objections may be a bit of a stretch. Specialized climbing skills to traverse 74 inches? No mention of climbing gear or O2 meters (& OP still responsive)? Sure, maybe. Seems like a generous benefit of the doubt, though.
/r/MensRights31/08/22 12:07 PM
5

Do you remember the gang bang FRA college girl from a about 13 years ago? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstra_University_rape_case
/r/MensRights26/08/22 05:30 AM
1

You might see what I'm saying as an attack on you personally, but that's not my intention. I just don't understand why you're afraid of attack when you've never been attacked, and don't seem to be in danger of attack. Idk, maybe you've barely escaped a severe beating followed by sexual assault from the guy who put a note on your car, but as you describe it, it doesn't really seem like that's the case.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 09:51 PM
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I'm sure assaults happen. Occasionally there will be a news story about a honked car horn that results in a gun fight. But it's rather rare. I think the fear you have might be out of proportion to the actual risk. You're taking precautions like not being confrontational, and it seems to be working. The worst that's happened is someone has knocked on your door or said mean things behind your back.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 06:30 PM
3

I'm curious, has a man ever physically attacked you after you turned him down?
/r/MensRights19/08/22 04:49 PM
1

Can't even remember your own arguments. Sheesh. It is apparent you are immune to reason, and have nothing philosophically useful to offer. Paying attention to you is a waste of my time.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 04:42 PM
0

Please find the words where I said the deity was real Your very first response to me, you dunce. Smh
/r/MensRights16/08/22 03:57 PM
1

...says the guy who believes fantasy things are real.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 03:47 PM
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"Just agree that you're a child molesting rapist spree killer. It really ruins the mood, otherwise."
/r/MensRights16/08/22 03:38 PM
0

As long as your partner knows and agrees, the words you said to some ostensible leprechaun in the sky are irrelevant. You will be completely unable to demonstrate otherwise.
/r/MensRights15/08/22 10:01 AM
0

Swinging and ethical non-monogamy is not adultery, but it's probably asking a bit too much for someone like you to discern the difference.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:38 PM
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An oath is not a fiction, and neither is the sentiment around it. Parties to an oath, promise, contract or agreement can change the terms if they wish. It doesn't care, but the oath makers should precisely because it doesn't. Philosophical nonsense. Par for the course if you have to constantly suspend disbelief in reality.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 05:40 PM
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So you can't even detect this creature when you look at the level of subatomic particles, but it cares where your dick gets inserted. Alrighty then. What are you theist thirsty, sheesh. Ah, sex shaming. How very feminist of you. there are fucking loads of those folks and they talk. So an actual real world issue, but this merely reduces to the original problem of a bunch of people running around believing fiction is reality.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 01:42 PM
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Are you over reacting? You are if you think every couple looking for MMF fun is to blame for the actions of this one dishonest, pushy couple you ran into.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 08:25 PM
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Sure thing Wavy Gravy. In the real world, however, that's nonsense, and any morality you derive from it is equally nonsensical. There are no gods, no magic. Vows to them are words in the void. Vows to real people, otoh, should be kept if at all possible. And if two or more people want to have a nonmonogamous relationship, the only relevant parties that need to agree or disagree are the ones getting naked together.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 08:13 PM
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I'll not telling you to let it go or that it wasn't a big deal. I am trying to get you to see that it probably isn't the the semantics of sex that's the issue here, but the dishonesty. Imagine if it had been an FF couple, but when you get back to their house, you find out they don't actually want to have a three way, they want you to change the oil in their car and then gtfo. Would that be better? Or you get back to her place, and woman 1 is trying to coerce woman 2 into mff? "Have sex with this…
/r/MensRights13/08/22 07:46 PM
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you make a deal with a deity, that's it, your goose is cooked Ah yes, the danger of retribution from fictional entities. That's precisely the problem here.. The problem here is people running around making moral judgements on other people while dangerously out of touch with reality.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 04:59 PM
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The non-monogamy is not really the problem here. The lack of skeevey-ness in trying to trick someone into a relationship style they're not looking for is. Also, multiple incidents? Are you looking for dates on a swinger website?
/r/MensRights13/08/22 04:46 PM
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For the record, this is a perfectly valid style of relationship...if everyone knows what's up and is on board with whatever flavor of non-monogamy is being proposed from the get go. But it is definitely a dick move to try to spring-surprise MMF swinging or cuckold stuff on someone who is not expecting it.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 04:44 PM
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let’s not start pretending No need to pretend, the phenomena is real. How about instead of pretending it's not real, we acknowledge the variability of these crimes and that they are not all one thing. Sexual assault occurs along a continuum of severity, as does false rape accusation. It is particularly stupid to try to argue that someone getting their ass grabbed on the dance floor is anywhere near as severe as the case of Brian Banks. don’t fantasise about these extremely niche The FBI puts the…
/r/MensRights13/08/22 12:19 AM
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You seem to be saying that a man who hires ten of his friends to kidnap, imprison and rape a woman over the span of a decade should be punished less than a man who rapes a woman one night at a party. That is a rather odd position to take.
/r/MensRights12/08/22 06:10 PM
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these comments think lying about rape = worse than rape. Lying about rape could lead to men with guns kidnapping and imprisoning you for decades in an environment where you are far mor likely to be assaulted, aggravated assaulted, raped or murdered. Which would you prefer, 1 night of rape or 3650 nights of rape? men still get paid more than women in the west A factor of choices, rather than sexism. More dangers, labor intensive jobs pay more, women are more likely to voluntarily remove themselve…
/r/MensRights12/08/22 05:29 PM
3

I thought the 2% number was a woozle.
/r/MensRights12/08/22 05:10 PM
3

Alimony is a separate legal entity from child support.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 05:54 AM
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Weak.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 03:49 AM
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Weak.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 03:29 AM
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Your surrender is duly noted.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 03:01 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedent
/r/MensRights01/08/22 12:18 AM
3

Cases where men want equal time and responsibility with their children and do not get it are actual few in number. Ah yes, the Maryland court study where the Maryland courts looked at the Maryland courts and determined that the Maryland courts did nothing wrong. Men don't pursue custody because they know courts are biased and they won't get it. It's also incredibly expensive, so it's not like a swing and a miss is without extensive consequence, up to and including debtors prison. Women are much …
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:19 PM
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Such an observation does, however, rather clearly demonstrate that we don't live in a society where men are placed above pets and children. If there were anyone out there making that claim. Also "run the world" suggests you're committing an apex fallacy.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:17 PM
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Well, good for texas, I guess, if the information you received is right. But just because something doesn't exist in Texas doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:02 PM
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Child support is just alimony part 2. There's a reason there are no controls on how the money is spent.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:00 PM
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IDK, sounds like you still have it, just under a different name. https://www.ballmorselowe.com/blog/texas-divorce-101-alimony-vs.-spousal-maintenance
/r/MensRights31/07/22 10:41 PM
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You barely understand this subject, you're not qualified to critique it. ETA, blocked and ran away. Typical.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 10:16 PM
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No need to apologize. In the future make sure you understand the subject on which you're trying to offer your opinion.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 10:06 PM
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I know you're worried about when a man has a second family, and those children are more likely to suffer poverty because he's paying CS to the previous mom so she can get her hair and nails did. But that's why we eliminate CS. It encourages women to not alienate fathers from their children and it also doesn't place undue financial hardship on a second family a man might need to provide for.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 10:03 PM
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Indeed. We joke and laugh about it because of the absurdity of it. "The relationship is over, but let's have men with guns enforce the continuation of just this one part of it!"
/r/MensRights31/07/22 09:26 PM
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In a world where we simply must have CS then it should of course be enforced equally. It won't be, but it should be. However, it's probably better to eliminate it and remove the financial incentive to destroy relationships.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 09:23 PM
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If you don't know the difference between child support and alimony you don't know enough to discuss this issue intelligently.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 09:20 PM
1

Have you gone through one before? Especially one with high conflict and false accusations?
/r/MensRights31/07/22 04:42 PM
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I really do love the chutzpah of that argument. "I cleaned your house for awhile and you paid me while i did it [free room & board &entertainment], but you have to keep paying me even though I'm not doing that job anymore." Could you Imagine if the Firestone on Elm & 23rd tried to argue in court I still owed them $50 every six months because 2008-2020 that's where I went to get my oil changed? Netflix and Comcast still expect to be paid even after you cancel their service? The audacity. But wome…
/r/MensRights31/07/22 04:11 PM
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If we want that, we need to eliminate the "child" support system. Remove the financial incentive to divorce and the financial incentive to alienate the other parent. If there is an amicable relationship after separation it improves outcomes for everyone (especially since most women divorce for trivial reasons).
/r/MensRights31/07/22 03:45 PM
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We don’t blame our significant other If you're withholding sex you do.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 06:05 PM
1

After divorce where children are involved (or not involved, depending), the state arbitrarily assigns a debt to a man. If he is unable to pay - even if the circumstances are entirely out of his control - the state system will enact increasingly harsh penalties, culminating with imprisonment. Debtors prison, iow. And society just permits it to happen. Of course, the debt continues to accrue while imprisoned. There is no escape.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:49 PM
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OP: She also tells me to be "wary of the female rage". That's an incoming false rape accusation. Or a midnight genital mutilation.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:08 PM
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If only that's all it was. I'm talking about debtors prison. Given the bigotry against men prevalent in society it's not surprising you aren't even aware of it.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:06 PM
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You're upset about abortion, lack of choice, risking prison because of reproductive choices that are taken out of your hands? Welcome to what menhave had to deal with for the past 40 years.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 03:54 PM
5

Well-poisoning fallacy.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 03:36 PM
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False analogy. A better comparison is number of men in prison for being unable to pay a state enforced debt.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 03:21 PM
2

Do you have a source on that claim?
/r/MensRights12/07/22 03:15 PM
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Apex fallacy
/r/MensRights12/07/22 03:02 PM
1

I see my plea for sanity has fallen on deaf ears.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 05:50 PM
4

Indeed. But the two are not mutually exclusive. Is this going to turn into one of those annoying internet debates where we quibble about the definition of a word, and we have to go back and forth 18 times before you realize you can lie as part of a brag? Like "Hey toots, come back to my place. I own my own house, it's three story with 4 bathrooms!" but oops I guess that's not bragging because the house actually has 3 1/2 bathrooms and it's really more of an attic than a third story? C'mon.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 05:42 PM
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As it turns out, this might actually be a book written tongue-in-cheek style to illustrate the problem and provide information on how to avoid FRA. Also, lying is not mutually exclusive to bragging.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 05:17 PM
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I've heard "advice" like negging, lying about your achievements or status to make women like you Ah yes, bragging. Definitely a moral equivalent to crafting deliberate lies designed to make friends, family, employers and the law enforcement arm of the government think that a reviled sexual felony has been committed.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 04:41 PM
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People have to keep in mind it's a cognitive bias to try to apply the bell curve to anecdotes, and accuse someone of lying because their narrative is merely "unlikely". The most egregious stories are those most likely to be shared.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 03:08 PM
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Is that supposed to be a selling point, we all join the hypocrite & delusion cult? Fuckin' gross.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 05:23 PM
1

Respond to what I've already written.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 06:01 AM
1

Respond to what I've already written.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 12:22 AM
1

I have laid out my position over and over. Respond to what I've already written.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 11:54 PM
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I'm talking about the American system. Insofar as the Canadian system is similar to the US system, my points still apply. Although, it is kinda weird to be all right wing "argh, my taxes!" when you have a living example of the advantages of something like socialized medicine.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 10:43 PM
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I give zero fuckes about the American child services system. I think you care very deeply about it, and finding out that the system costs you a ton of money in taxes causes some cognitive dissonance. That's why you're losing your cool.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 06:45 PM
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Oh, you didn't want to talk about how much you know of the CS system, and it's punishments and the systematic racism of it? Is that because you know nothing about it and are entirely unfit to discuss it? Heh. You have a child's understanding of this issue. Or you're a literal child. That why, e.g. you keep getting confused on whether you're taking about parents paying bills or the ncp paying cs. I love how you Answered, multiple times. I don't want to pay for your kid Then I've got some sour new…
/r/MensRights26/06/22 03:00 AM
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The reason the debt exists is a child was brought in to the world Ah yes, the well known principle of every child born having an attached CS order. Lol Did the neighborhood as YOU to build the sewer (Child)? We're not talking about the child, we're talking about child support orders. And yes, the "neighborhood" did ask it to be "built". How in your mind is not allowing "paper abortions" racist? Explain what you know about the penalties associated with non-payment of CS. I'm fairly certain you do…
/r/MensRights25/06/22 07:07 PM
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Right the key word here is arbitrary. But you haven't established that It is inherently obvious. The debt would not exist if the government did not establish it by fiat. This is a strawman argument, of course. The man already pays for his kids, as I have already pointed out. What the CS system does is make the man pay for the woman's portion. Does this mean you are agreeing that you should have to pay child support? I am merely describing the system as it exists. Are you too stupid to understand…
/r/MensRights25/06/22 08:10 AM
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You need to back up your argument. No need, you already agree with me. If your state government came up to you and laid an arbitrary debt on you, you would absolutely howl with indignation. You know it is true, and that's why you are desperately dancing around having to acknowledge it. or if EVERYONE else should. This is a strawman argument, of course. The man already pays for his kids, as I have already pointed out. What the CS system does is make the man pay for the woman's portion. Agreed. Th…
/r/MensRights25/06/22 03:45 AM
2

The points you couldn't address, of course, such as how it is malfeasant to burden one person with a huge goverment-imposed debt, how the man pays for his kids when they're with him but is then also forced to shoulder what should be the woman's portion of the debt of children, and that a society that decides a woman needs to be supported should be the one to foot the bill, and of course the one you always know, your body, your choice, your responsibilty. You can't force anyone else to be respons…
/r/MensRights25/06/22 02:41 AM
2

You deliberately avoided my points. I see no other reasonable explanation.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 01:20 AM
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Your surrender is duly noted.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 12:58 AM
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If you build a house My analogy has nothing to do with building a house, you dunce. They can if they are the only one who uses it. My analogy also has nothing to do with a homeowner requesting the city maintain their private road or sewer line. I'm the person who doesn't make stupid You make stupid by the metric ton. Know thyself. You still haven't explained You're literate so I know you read my previous post. And in doing so, I know you read where I explained exactly the reasoning behind my pos…
/r/MensRights25/06/22 12:07 AM
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Lol where do you live? In a city in America. Maybe you should learn how cities and jurisdiction operate. A city can't just decide to renovate a section of road or sewer and force one person to pay for it. Build a house not in a subdivision Yeah, when you construct an entirely different analogy then the factors of the original no longer apply. Would you care to address the actual analogy as presented? Or are you afraid to, because you don't want to think about how terrible your position is? What …
/r/MensRights24/06/22 11:22 PM
7

What do you think happens if Im the only one on the street? I'd call you a coward and quibbler for bringing up an irrelevant edge case, and the city would still pay for the section of the line that is public. Does your small mind need a different analogy? The state says "we have this person convicted of a felony, and guess what? We decided that YOU are going to pay for it. We take cash or check." But you dont. Its not your body. No shit, but we're not talking about her body, we're talking his bo…
/r/MensRights24/06/22 10:02 PM
8

Because it is incredibly malfeasant to force a huge tax burden like that on one individual. Would you be fine with the city deciding "we need to put in a new sewer line by your house, and since you will be using it YOU, spandex-commuter, are going to cover the entire cost. We'll just bill you an extra 20-50% of your income every month until that's paid off." "But I already pay my sewer bill and I pay property taxes, too!" "Tough shit, we all decided it was better to make you pay for it by yourse…
/r/MensRights24/06/22 06:33 PM
22

Men kill by pointing a gun, women kill by pointing a finger. Goddamnn, that's quotable.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 11:44 AM
16

And a man. Talk about a disfavorable characteristic to bring to a trial.
/r/MensRights25/05/22 01:43 AM
2

I can see that i need to make myself more plain. You should not be delusional like the "the south shall rise again" civil war types who say "the civil war wasnt about slavery, it was about state rights". Wrong. The civil war was about state rights to own slaves. Likewise, the repeal of RvW isn't just about the feds reducing their influence, it's about the feds "stepping back" so as to allow the states to force a religious belief onto other people. So yes, they are taking away rights. Don't be de…
/r/MensRights05/05/22 06:23 PM
1

Figure out what words mean on your own.
/r/MensRights05/05/22 12:12 PM
1

I've spent more than enough time handholding idiots recently. Figure out what words mean on your own.
/r/MensRights05/05/22 12:05 PM
1

So you know nothing about this issue.
/r/MensRights05/05/22 06:19 AM
1

Now parse that phrase.
/r/MensRights05/05/22 06:11 AM
1

That does not make your point at all, it directly contradicts it. The reality is that some folks cannot, in good conscience, condone the destruction of something that is clearly ALIVE i If that's your religious belief, great. Don't get an abortion. Some people can't mortally tolerate an omnivorous diet. Those people are free to be vegetarians. They don't get to force their religion on others.
/r/MensRights05/05/22 12:27 AM
1

Ok sweetie. Off you go.
/r/MensRights05/05/22 12:09 AM
1

You're just not all there. Run along now.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 11:59 PM
1

I can see you're not really capable of much abstract thought.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 11:51 PM
1

When they're with dad, dad pays. When they're with mom, mom pays. That's a fair system. Anything else is using government force to steal from one parent.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 11:44 PM
1

Men already take care of their kids. Men paying CS are now covering the woman's portion of the bill. I didn't get a interruption cause I paid Silly child, you didn't get an interruption because you didn't get laid off and didn't have an accident or get sick. Are really so self absorbed and dull you can't understand that your experience is not universal?
/r/MensRights04/05/22 11:37 PM
1

Ever seen the inside of a debtors prison? Which would you prefer?
/r/MensRights04/05/22 11:27 PM
1

Strawman. What are my exact words, you doof?
/r/MensRights04/05/22 11:26 PM
1

So nothing bad happened to you. Lucky girl, you experienced no interrupttion of your income stream. If it had, you would be singing a different tune. Or maybe not. Women do often get the kid glove treatment fron the court system. Yall cry alot. Sociopaths tend not to be concerned about the troubles of others. Is that what you are?
/r/MensRights04/05/22 11:25 PM
1

Religion may occasionally overlap with reality. That doesn't magically transform an aspect of the real world into a "religious belief".
/r/MensRights04/05/22 11:17 PM
1

When you're ignoring, minimizing and victim-blaming people affected by government malfeasance, you have no business talking about what others are supposedly "waving away".
/r/MensRights04/05/22 10:21 PM
1

Hypocrite.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 09:50 PM
1

Hush, adults are talking.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 09:47 PM
2

Point of order, it wasn't their choice to be subject to a system that would cause a suicide response. It's also not a "choice" if they die from factors related to law enforcement intervention or being forced into a poverty existence. But I have to ask, is that really your position? I mean, would you be fine with an abortion ban if the majority of deaths were from women driven to suicide, instead of botched abortions or ectopic pregnancies forced to term?
/r/MensRights04/05/22 08:35 PM
1

Heh, ok.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 08:22 PM
1

I kinda got you, didn't I. Heh.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 08:21 PM
1

Claim still unsupported. You lose.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 07:32 PM
1

Claim still unsupported. Surely you're not so stupid as to think otherwise.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 07:14 PM
1

torture logic So you claim, but are unable to demonstrate.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 07:02 PM
0

Nazis can't read, apparently.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 06:49 PM
1

It shouldn't be illegal in any state. States can't violate enumerated rights, such as freedom of religion in this case.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 06:48 PM
1

Thought terminating cliche detected.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 06:41 PM
2

And if women didn't accept that sperm, they wouldn't need to get abortions, right? Or is victim-blaming a stupid way to argue? You decide.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 06:39 PM
2

Seeing opposition to bigotry and government malfeasance bothers you? Yet another fan of debt slavery. Disappointing.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 06:32 PM
2

It's nice to find someone who also supports the elimination of the "child" support slavery system.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 06:03 PM
2

I don't. If you weren't a dipshit, you'd understand bio differences don't make a good argument to negate legal rights.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 05:18 PM
-1

Jingoism. Get bent with that quasi nazi shit.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 05:07 PM
1

No one is making that argument, but sure.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 04:15 PM
2

What sort of idiot argument is this? "People with trisomy have Downs Syndrome, therefore slavery is cool!" Jfc, the stupidity, it burns. These are legal issues, not biological issues, you dork.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 04:14 PM
0

Eyeroll
/r/MensRights04/05/22 04:09 PM
8

A strawman? But of course.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 04:08 PM
0

Your surrender is duly noted.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 02:45 PM
2

I can see how it would seem that way to a misandrist bigot. You're used to woman being given special treatment.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 02:44 PM
1

It would make sense if you understood logic.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 02:38 PM
6

It's worse than giving birth, it's the modern iteration of slavery. People like you, who minimize what goes on in the American CS system, I wish I could slap a CS order on YOU for 25 years, just to show you what it's like.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 02:07 PM
3

I don't see any celebrating here.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 02:04 PM
2

Special pleading. Yawn.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 02:03 PM
1

CS debt systems drive men to suicide, or they are killed by the LE system or die from the various causes of being forced into poverty and anomie. All of which I wouldn't have to explain to you (and you would not have even brought up the death issue) if you actually gave a shit about men and the issues they face.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 01:30 PM
4

I'm not a feminist, I actually support equality. I bear no collective guilt over "child" support debt peonage.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 01:26 PM
3

So, good No, bad. Bad that it is happening, and bad that all the wailers now couldn't be bothered in the slightest when it was (and still is!) happening to men. The feminists wanted to talk about equality? Your monkey paw wish has come true.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 01:23 PM
2

Men don't die from ilegally performed abortions Indeed, men die from being driven to suicide by "child" support debt peonage, or are killed by the involvement of the law enforcement system, or by the various factors that arise from being forced into poverty. That aspect never occurred to you, did it. Having it just now explained to you, my prediction is you still won't give a shit.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 01:17 PM
4

...and allowing states to take away rights. Let's not be civil war delusional about this.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 01:11 PM
8

Women literally die giving birth. How is that comparable to paying child support? Men are literally driven to suicide by the Kafkaesque hell of the "child" support debt peonage system, or are killed by cops enforcing it. THAT is how it's comparable.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 01:10 PM
6

I'm sure...right up until you lose your job or get sick, miss a few payments, and now the "fees and interest" kick in, along with loss of your driver's license. Enjoy that treadmill you're about to climb on.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 01:03 PM
1

To be fair, being able to "just move" is easier said than done. Some people can't afford to, and some people"s luge circumstances prevent it. A high schooler who needs an abortion might not even be able to travel out of state to get one...assuming there's a neighboring state reasonably near enough to travel there. We should also not forget the more important issue of forcing religious beliefs on others. Not acceptable, even if one could perhaps, possibly move to a different state.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 07:29 AM
6

No kids, no shared assets, what exactly is she going to contest? Is she saying that she's going to make false accusations of abuse? That demand for $20,000 payoff sounds an awful lot like extortion, btw. Keep in mind your divorce lawyer might be unethically swayed into not acting in your best interest. The idea of a high conflict divorce could be rather appealing to a family law lawyer, since high conflict will mean 100x more billable hours.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 04:49 AM
5

We shouldn't stoop down to the level of an inflamatory feminazi cheering the loss of rights of the opposition. No one here is doing that.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 03:25 AM
24

If it were up to me, there would be no abortion ban. It is, however, amusing to see the handwringing when the shoe is on the other foot.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 02:03 AM
16

Indeed. Inconvenient as it is to give birth and then abandon or give the baby up for adoption, it's still an out for women not available to men. I guess they haven't earned full membership yet.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 01:58 AM
2

A phonetic reworking of "person", it would seem.
/r/MensRights10/04/22 05:05 PM
10

Can you see someone's chromosomes as they pass you on the street? Don't be a brick, this is a sociological discussion. If someone presents as a man they will be treated like a man, and experience whatever men of that type experience in public.
/r/MensRights04/04/22 03:49 PM
1

From having seen a few post op trans women, I can tell you the success rate is very hit or miss there too. You are conflating your physical attraction with psychological wellbeing. The two are hardly unity. I don’t see how the answer is always to change the body It isn't. But when it is, it is, and it's a particularly stupid mindset to think otherwise.
/r/MensRights11/03/22 06:53 PM
0

People like to argue for the existence of "child" support, but this is the sort of madness that results. I'm guessing that's not a mere 10% of your income. It sure is a good tactic if you want to deprive a man under the color of law, though. That could be money you would use to hire a competent lawyer, but it goes to her (filtered through the court's economic ecology first, of course). She can pay for all sorts of legal harassment while you have to decide if you can afford food this month. Elimi…
/r/MensRights28/02/22 04:31 PM
2

/u/disayle32 is not /u/Heavy_Grand2526 Surely you're aware that different people may have different opinions.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 01:46 PM
7

Reddit has something like 400 million active users. You can find individuals representing just about any idea. Again, your claim seems delusional.
/r/MensRights08/02/22 01:11 PM
11

counteracting that seems to be a common theme. Which major social movements are out there trying to counteract the WAW effect?
/r/MensRights08/02/22 12:36 PM
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People seem to want everyone to think less of women. That seems like a delusional perspective.
/r/MensRights08/02/22 12:11 PM
46

You seem triggered. Do you need a passive-aggressive fake offer of help with a side of hypocritical asshole?
/r/MensRights08/02/22 12:00 PM
2

I really am serious in my curiosity. I'm not here to fight. I really want to know, do you think that promiscuous men having sex with men is rare-to-non-existant? Or only a tiny fractional percentage of the non-het population?
/r/MensRights07/09/21 04:58 PM
6

Not everyone, obviously. That's a silly strawman to try to float. But these subcultures and mechanisms for sexual gratification undeniably exist. Surely your position is not that they don't. I'm curious about your thoughts, do you think MSM hookup culture doesn't exist, or that the participants are rare?
/r/MensRights07/09/21 03:35 PM
3

2% is a woozle. 8-10% is the FBI number. Does it over count? Does it undercount? What's their methodology? Idk, I've never seen it explained. Kanin put the number at something like 43%, and he relied on self reporting with detriment. I'm sure his methodology has problems, too. But to say the absolute maximum is 10% seems...incorrect.
/r/MensRights07/09/21 03:20 PM
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Dating, idk. But hooking up? That is definitely how it works. Tea room trade, adult video stores, gay hook up culture...it is insanely easy to have non-prostitutional MM sex. Previous guy obviously doesn't know what he's talking about, of course, but he's inadvertently close. Being a man on grindr is probably a lot like being a woman on Tinder.
/r/MensRights07/09/21 03:09 PM
2

What if you need them to stop playing soldier for five seconds and not murder you for fun? Can you rely on them then?
/r/MensRights03/08/21 03:39 PM
1

That depends. Was there any false reporting? Then there may be room for forgiveness. But if the person calling gave an honest report, those cops should hang for being dangerous idiots.
/r/MensRights03/08/21 03:34 PM
6

"that's not how it works. It should always be guilty until proven innocent" "Really? Great, I'm accusing you of rape. Off to jail you go!"
/r/MensRights29/07/21 04:55 AM
2

A woman has two legs. A spider has eight legs. A woman has one pussy. I'm not a geologist or anything, but the possibility that this formula holds true means that the superior dating choice is obvious.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 04:40 PM
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The fed pays the states to collect child support. CS is an income stream for state governments. It's not an odd solution at all, it is an entirely expected and normal outcome.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 01:04 PM
0

Because the visceral reaction is a result of evolution. I'm not sure that's entirely true. Humans have evolved traits that suggest promiscuity as part of their ontology. Sperm competition, hidden eustrus, differing orgasm ontologies. You don't evolve multi function sperm and absence sperm production in a species that is as aligned to monogamy as you seem to be claiming.
/r/MensRights09/06/21 12:00 PM
4

Like never once have I been worried about being raped by a woman. Do you actually find this type of reasoning convincing? Do you think it will convince others? If I say "never once have been worried about being over medicalized" (whatever that means) are you suddenly going to flip on that issue? I doubt you'll think "this random guy on the internet isn't worried about this issue? Gosh, guess I've been mistaken all along, I'll drop it, too." I’m far more concerned about being wrongly accused "If …
/r/MensRights07/02/21 01:08 PM
6

No need to expand the definition of legal rape even more using vague terms like "enveloping" That's a fairly stupid thing to say. You are unfamiliar with the term, obviously, but the term itself is not vague. "Envelopment" is rape of a victim by forcing penetration into a body orifice, e.g. a woman forcing a man's penis into her vagina. That's quite solid, as definitions go. And let's be honest, teenaged boys having sex with older women isn't even considered a real crime in our society. IOW, env…
/r/MensRights07/02/21 12:52 PM
3

Don't forget: false rape accusations false domestic violence accusations virgin shaming parental alienation gold digging "girls club" behavior
/r/MensRights28/12/20 01:39 PM
16

That's an interesting take on the Apex Fallacy.
/r/MensRights25/12/20 04:44 PM
23

Indeed, why wouldn't you. The feminists never seem to want to explain why they don't. They just ban you.
/r/MensRights25/12/20 04:38 PM
16

Do they? Men have an out-group bias toward women, e.g. the white knight contingent, while women have an in group bias toward women.
/r/MensRights18/12/20 04:42 PM
2

https://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat11.htm https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15491274/
/r/MensRights18/12/20 11:53 AM
2

A trend does not mean that everyone in a population will experience that outcome. Localized variations may also exist. If you have a source on the HR claim I'd be interested in seeing it. And a lot of women don’t like attractive women in the job. They may not, but they may still prefer a woman over a man. Or they may equally disprefer a man and an attractive woman but will still be more likely to choose a woman over a man, they just choose a less attractive woman.
/r/MensRights18/12/20 04:26 AM
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Minority status. In group/out group bias of women and men toward women. HR departments tend to be majority women.
/r/MensRights17/12/20 12:17 PM
1

Oh no, those two recanters from last decade, wouldn't want to make their makeup run. What tiny fraction of FRAs come forward after the fact? What exactly is our ROI with this permissive attitude toward sex offenders? Because the absolute minimum number of FRAs every year is apparently something like 7,000. With numbers much higher, like maybe 35,000 per year. Are you telling me a significant number of those are recanted?
/r/MensRights16/12/20 03:45 AM
0

Sometimes you can prove that. Most of the time it's just he said she said. Rape needs to be treated like a traffic violation...if we're going to take your stupidity seriously.
/r/MensRights15/12/20 08:56 PM
1

Indeed, your reasoning IS asinine. Rarely, someone will self report, whether the punishment is light or serious. You aren't helping anyone by encouraging false accusations.
/r/MensRights15/12/20 08:53 PM
2

Oh hey, even better! We can't really punish rapists seriously. What if the accusation is false? Harm mitigation predicates punishment severity. So rape gets a civil penalty, at worst.
/r/MensRights15/12/20 08:32 PM
4

What do you propose we do when someone is incarcerated falsely and the only way to free them is by the false accuser to come forward? Discourage the false accusation from existing in the first place by punishing the crime in proportion to the seriousness of the harm it causes. If we punish the false accuser the odds of them coming forward is little to none. Yeah, same with rapists. Rape has a really low clearance rate. Just think how many rape cases we could solve and rapes we could prevent if t…
/r/MensRights15/12/20 08:20 PM
9

It's not my logic, it's your logic. You're the one who wants to make a sex crime no-punishment. Does that reasoning apply to other crimes, crimes that also affect women? Or are we only going lenient when it's crimes that women commit?
/r/MensRights15/12/20 07:45 PM
6

Yeah, that's some good reasoning. And rapists aren't going to confess and get the help they need if we run around punishing them, either. That's why rape should be a at worst a fine. Maybe a misdemeanor if it's aggravated rape.
/r/MensRights15/12/20 07:12 PM
3

There is professed, or lip service ideology. And then there is ideology as actually practiced by adherents. The two do not necessarily match.
/r/MensRights09/12/20 12:59 PM
21

toxic masculinity Could you imagine if problems with the African American murder rate in the US, and endemic poverty in the same group, and police brutality, and lingering effects of slavery and Jim Crow laws, and white nationalism ideology in law enforcement, and everything else that plagues the black community...imagine if all those issues were gathered into one group and the whole thing was labeled "toxic blackness". Do you think there might be some entirely legitimate complaints about that c…
/r/MensRights08/12/20 05:48 PM
5

Sure. Either way, it's an excellent lead-in to point out how the designers and enforcers of CS don't give a shit if kids live or die. It's just an excuse so lawyers and various other family court parasites can get paid.
/r/MensRights08/12/20 05:38 PM
14

Not when it comes to CS. You're aware that there is no requirement to spend CS on anything remotely related to children, yes? Or that men having children they're responsible for (e.g. children from a current relationship) offers no relief or consideration in calculating "child" support payments?
/r/MensRights08/12/20 05:30 PM
12

Probably those women, too. Don't be surprised, it's just the sort of toxicity feminism encourages.
/r/MensRights08/12/20 05:20 PM
9

Getting upset over things like this is why mena rights groups don't get taken seriously. Bullshit. The MRA movement is dismissed and mocked regardless of what problems we try to raise awareness for. Male rape victims, "child" support peonage, alimony, false rape accusation, suicide, murder victims, male genital mutilation...it's all laughed at by the "men just need more feminism" crowd.
/r/MensRights08/12/20 05:07 PM
15

Friends listen to a friend's problems. Selfish people expect help, but don't feel any obligation to reciprocate. Feminism - and their "unpaid emotional labor" whine - is just more selfishness with a thin veneer of social movement.
/r/MensRights08/12/20 04:57 PM
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But it is the man's job, as legally forced by the government, to give women free money via "child" support and alimony. The double standard is alive, well, and extremely excessive.
/r/MensRights08/12/20 04:36 PM
2

Ah.
/r/MensRights21/09/20 02:39 PM
1

I did not make an appeal to popularity. Then I don't know what you're taking about when you say "other's responses".
/r/MensRights21/09/20 01:46 PM
1

There is no evidence None required. The act of making an appeal to popularity is what makes it a logical fallacy.
/r/MensRights21/09/20 01:35 PM
2

Bandwagon fallacy. Also, kinda funny argument given "I don't care what people think".
/r/MensRights21/09/20 01:16 PM
19

Better not. The likelihood this would be used to dox you is too high. And you know true believers like that would happily try pull all sorts of immoral shit like trying to get you fired, swat you, steal your CC info or whatever else their brownshirt selves could get away with.
/r/MensRights20/09/20 11:36 PM
1

I provided a number of premises And yet, again, you know how it comes off? It looks like you reworded your premise three times and then spent a paragraph bragging. Why do you take issue with this? I think I've been pretty clear on that. What you're offering doesn't help. Don't get offended, just take it as constructive criticism. You need to work on your message, because while there may be something helpful in there, it's not apparent from the way you're presenting it.
/r/MensRights20/09/20 07:20 PM
1

On the contrary, I don't do the "rah-rah-rah-don't-be-sad stuff". Then maybe you need to re-think your writing style because that is exactly how it comes off. OP feels like shit for very real reasons, but it's ok because you have 800 books and a beard? Thoughts and prayers!
/r/MensRights20/09/20 06:37 PM
1

Having a high opinion of yourself doesn't solve issues that grow out of others having low opinions of you. That, of course, is the real issue. But I'm fairly skeptical this rah-rah-don't-be-sad stuff even helps op with his problem. It sounds a lot like "don't be depressed, I'm not!" OP feels the way he does for a reason. Silly him, "thoughts and prayers!"
/r/MensRights20/09/20 06:20 PM
1

Where did I say “you don’t need anyone else?” It's baked into your hypothesis. Maybe you haven't noticed, but when society thinks "you don't deserve your kids after a divorce", what happens is you don't get your kids after a divorce. Their opinions matter. In response to this, your solution is to say "fuck 'em, they don't matter"? It's just more boomer "pull them bootstraps", "your problem is your attitude", "you need to be more self reliant" delusional nonsense. You fix the problem, you don't i…
/r/MensRights20/09/20 12:00 PM
5

You don't address problems by pretending they don't exist. "Being a man rocks!" No, it objectively does not. How about you drop the empty feelgoodisms. Probably wouldn't hurt to dump the idea you don't need anyone else, and instead recognize the problem and cooperate to deal with it.
/r/MensRights19/09/20 03:53 PM
1

"I'm a family court parasite and I think your ex wife's rape claims [objectively false, of course] are true because most rape claims go unreported so I'll be sure to note that in my report." "Well I'm a man and I don't care what you think!" "Ok, well, the judge does. Maybe if you're lucky you'll see your kids every other weekend."
/r/MensRights19/09/20 02:38 PM
14

Gosh, I don't know Beav. Maybe because a delusional go-get-'em attitude isn't going to do shit when 50% of your wages have been garnished for "child" support payments and if you try to hug your kids during the 1 hr/week you get to see them, the radfem visitation supervisor snaps at you to keep your distance.
/r/MensRights19/09/20 02:18 PM
1

I stated: No, you didn't. But I can see explaining things to you is a waste of time.
/r/MensRights18/09/20 04:00 AM
1

An author who says "X despite Y" intends to say that Y should have been either a strongly deciding factor in, or a guaranteed, not-X, so seeing X occur is an unexpected outcome given the Y factor. Saying "[they] turned out pretty weird despite religious fundamentalism" means you think religious fundamentalism should make it less more likely, or a guarantee, that they would turn out normal.
/r/MensRights18/09/20 01:22 AM
1

I only ask because that's what you wrote.
/r/MensRights18/09/20 12:34 AM
1

Surely you're not claiming that religious fundamentalism is a normalizing factor.
/r/MensRights18/09/20 12:00 AM
1

Seems like the operant factor there is not homeschooled but fundie.
/r/MensRights17/09/20 10:40 PM
2

But it has its internal logic It doesn't even have that. It's just a thin veneer of bullshit over whatever ensures that a man pays out and courts continue their extortion racket.
/r/MensRights12/09/20 11:10 AM
6

That's the one part of this doesn't entirely suck. Latner is still a rich man even after the exorbitant payments he's forced to provide. Imagine this sort of immoral outrage being perpetrated against men who are middle class or lower class, men who can ill-afford to part with any of their income and are looking at indigency because of it. Well, you don't have to imagine it because "family" courts do it all the time, shitbags that they are.
/r/MensRights12/09/20 01:59 AM
4

Rather telling when that's the only defense anyone can muster for a particular behavior, isn't it.
/r/MensRights12/09/20 01:53 AM
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In their relationship he made her dependant of his money or she became dependant to his money because she wanted to. It doesn't matter why but the dependency is what its proved or not. And what if he became dependent on regular sex with her during their relationship, as well as her washing his clothes? If the law stated that she was forced to do his laundry every week and also bend over the kitchen table for him, I guarantee no one would be citing "legality" as a defense of that sort of evil. Bu…
/r/MensRights12/09/20 01:51 AM
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the result may be technically slightly outside the letter of the law but it absolutely squares with its intent. As if that's a justification for what is happening. So the man is forced to provide resources to a former partner. What does she provide to him? Will the courts force her to do his laundry, make him meals, suck his dick? Of course not, she isn't required to provide him anything, because the relationship is over. The idea that courts can continue to force only one partial aspect of a ro…
/r/MensRights12/09/20 01:11 AM
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You’re also drafted to ensure you know how to use those weapons. "[K]now[ing] how to use those weapons" is what leads to the lower-than-Japan murder rate in Switzerland? heh Yeah, like, all those people Dylan Roof and Seung-Hui Cho killed? Actually accidental discharges. Because of their lack of weapon familiarity. Good lord, you gun-ignorant gun controllers are hilarious.
/r/MensRights25/08/20 04:39 PM
1

It's hardly an exaggeration. If I convince law enforcement that you have committed a serious felony offense against me, men will indeed show up to your house armed with guns and take you prisoner. They will pat your body down for weapons, including your genital area. They will take away your civilian clothing, including underwear, and make you wear prison clothing. They will hold you in jail until your trial date or unless you pay bail (so add extortion to the list of crimes). When you make a fa…
/r/MensRights15/08/20 07:42 PM
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She won't be, given her crime. If a man got his five friends to kidnap a woman at gunpoint, frisk her, take her to a secondary location, force her to strip and change clothes, then locked her in a room for months on end, what sort of charges would they face? Those men would be charged with something like kidnapping, aggravated assault, and sexual assault at the very least, all with firearm enhancements. And they'd almost certainly go to jail. Why point this out? When a woman makes a false rape a…
/r/MensRights15/08/20 06:46 AM
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In the court documents posted somewhere as a link it goes into more details. I didn't see that link in the thread. Can you link to it?
/r/MensRights07/08/20 04:11 PM
2

What exactly are the facts of the case that demonstrate she was not engaging in self defense violence?
/r/MensRights07/08/20 02:37 PM
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This is a very persistent and stupid take. Self defense use of force isn't "the death penalty". They are two qualitatively different actions, and they're only conflated as an emotional argument. In self defense, the killing is incidental. In the death penalty, killing is the purpose of the action. Self defense necessitates immediate action due to exigent circumstances. The death penalty has no such driving factor. Give this "blah blah crime doesn't deserve the death penalty" argument a rest. It'…
/r/MensRights07/08/20 02:14 PM
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Considering feminists and women at large have started referring to the act of being compassionate toward a man as "emotional labor" It's both hilarious and horrible that feminists have the chutzpah to complain about this out of one side of their mouth, and then talk about how it's a duty for men to pay "child" support out of the other side. Sitting and listening for 15 minutes? Gigantic issue that it's absolutely important for men to be aware of. Money, the resource necessary to procure food and…
/r/MensRights02/08/20 08:13 PM
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There are a few more. There are men who are physically handicapped or elderly. There are men threatened with weapons. There are men threatened with false rape or false abuse allegations. There are men threatened with divorce empoverishment or threatened with parental alienation. There are men who are drunk or drugged or sleeping.
/r/MensRights28/07/20 07:18 AM
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The burden of proof rests with the kidnapper.
/r/MensRights28/07/20 06:54 AM
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I didn't think you'd be able to figure it out. You're a sociopath.
/r/MensRights27/07/20 06:39 PM
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Your point refutes itself to anyone with a conscience. See if you can figure out why.
/r/MensRights27/07/20 06:22 PM
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I don’t really think it matters though because even 2% is high enough to show that people should take it seriously. Indeed. Imagine if some discreet US jurisdiction decided it was going to take 2% of it's randomly selected rape cases and just drop them. Would the feminists still think 2% was a number that wasn't worth considering? Two percent would be a huge number for them...when it's their ox getting gored.
/r/MensRights20/07/20 12:14 PM
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Yeah, it's not like he's going to win custody or not pay child support if she decides that is what is going to happen.
/r/MensRights20/07/20 04:35 AM
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There isn’t ‘proof’ of anything regarding crimes ever, because that’s impossible, but it’s estimated that 2-10% of accusations are false, which is quite high. Estimated by who? What is their methodology? The 2% is a woozle. FBI supposedly says 8%, but I've never seen their methodology. Kanin, OTOH, puts the number at more like 41%. His criteria for his study was that the accuser herself had to admit the accusation was false, under threat of felony prosecution. There was no punishment for maintai…
/r/MensRights20/07/20 03:33 AM
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both men and women lie Yes, and both lightning strikes and cancer kill Americans. However, one is a bit more prevalent than the other. Despite the reality that men and women are equal offenders in terms of unidirectional IPV, men are the subject of 85% of protective orders. Of all the orders issued, probably about 60% are unnecessary or false. I wish you wouldn't base Oh look, an arrogant feminist. How utterly unsurprising.
/r/MensRights20/07/20 03:28 AM
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some studies have found as much as 40%, but that seems unlikely.... I see no reason why it couldn't be the case. The typical woman can't just walk up and punch the typical man in the face and expect to win a fight based purely on physical strength. But she can get other men to do it. It's a convenient method of revenge, and female privilege teaches women the consequences of their actions will be minor, even if they're caught in a lie. Many will be detected early (which is what the Kanin research…
/r/MensRights17/07/20 02:50 PM
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You're not in any real danger of being falsely accused of rape. I wish I could take people like you and run you through a divorce court gauntlet. You'd change your tune with a quickness.
/r/MensRights17/07/20 02:44 PM
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"Thank God for rape shield laws!"
/r/MensRights17/07/20 02:41 PM
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You helped bring a life into this world, you get to foot some of the responsibility Both parents already do with state intervention, as long as you don't alienate the other parent. Our did you think a father somehow gets a discount on his rent because he only sees his kids twice a month? If you don't like that, don't have sex or use protection. Ah yes, the "you agreed to have dinner so you agreed to have sex with him after" mindset. Lovely.
/r/MensRights08/07/20 01:19 PM
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This is incredibly short sighted. The institution itself is entirely corrupt, regardless if there happen to be cases where it might give us all a justice boner to have it enacted. Think about it. You're incentivising parental alienation. "Here's a bag of free money but you only get it IF you bad mouth the father of your children and tell us why he shouldn't be seeing his kids." And, of course, the whole thing about taking money away from men to give to women when men still have bills to pay. Doe…
/r/MensRights08/07/20 01:11 PM
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For those who might not know, an M240 is a machine gun. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M240_machine_gun
/r/MensRights07/07/20 07:35 PM
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He looks like a man, he acts like a man, society will treat him like a man (or worse because of the trans aspect and lingering effects of a female origin on male presentation)...a distinction on genetics at that point is just quibbling. And alienating.
/r/MensRights07/07/20 05:18 PM
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Imagine if a man were to, at the very least, attempt to kidnap a woman at gunpoint. Now imagine if a man were to hire a group of his friends and acquaintances to do it for him. What would happen to him? That is exactly what a woman is doing when she makes a false accusation of rape. So tell me, would a man who did that get community service and a few weeks in jail? Or would he spend a significant portion of his life in jail?
/r/MensRights07/07/20 04:59 PM
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Cops have to be aware of at least some small amount of nuance in their daily interactions. He called 911, why would a rapist summon the cops? She was supposedly sexually assaulted, does she show any outward signs of being assaulted? Does the accused indicate the accuser is lying? Does anyone have a recording of the incident? When the cops show up, why is she still in the car without being restrained? Cops aren't exactly the brightest group of people, but that's no reason to give them a pass when…
/r/MensRights07/07/20 04:28 PM
3

Circumcision protects against the transfer of the AIDS virus? Better let the gay community in the US in the mid 80s know! What? Most of them were circumcised and the virus burned through that community anyway? Oh.
/r/MensRights25/03/20 06:27 PM
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You're more than welcome. Doesn't look like I dissuaded many Lancelots, unfortunately.
/r/MensRights25/03/20 10:37 AM
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The feds pay the states to collect "child" support. A very large portion of human misery flows from this economic arrangement.
/r/MensRights25/03/20 01:44 AM
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Obviously, they love contributing to rape culture. Be sure to point this out to them.
/r/MensRights25/03/20 01:32 AM
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Just a heads up to all the wanna-be white knights downvoting this, this sort of warning doesn't equate to "all women are bad". If the socio-political and legal climate surrounding a particular action demonstrates itself to be particularly dangerous, it makes sense to warn against it. It is demonstrably dangerous for men to get married, co-habitate with women and have kids. It is not dangerous because "women are all bad", it is dangerous because divorce, child support and domestic violence laws p…
/r/MensRights25/03/20 01:15 AM
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Child support is supposed to Bullshit. "Child" support has zero requirement to be spent on the child, and even if the a state has some nominal suggestion that a woman is somehow accountable in this way, it's in effect unenforceable. Why? Because the state apparatus is unwilling to aggressively enforce it (unlike collection of funds, how convenient) which leaves it to the payor to do so. But, gosh, how's he going to bring suit? Hire a lawyer. With what funds? All his extra money goes to paying "c…
/r/MensRights24/03/20 09:38 PM
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You can opt out of parenthood, but not your financial obligation towards a child. That's not really what child support is, though, is it. A parent that has any visitation at all already financially supports their child. No, "child" support is just rebranded alimony with the added bad incentive that the government gets to wet their beak in it.
/r/MensRights24/03/20 07:34 PM
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No, the citing of anecdotal evidence is pretty widely understood and agreed upon to be a logical fallacy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
/r/MensRights04/03/20 01:47 PM
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Your evidence is anecdotal. There are problems with anecdotal evidence. There are many possibilities here. You may be rare among foreskin amputees and more resistant to negative effects. You may have gotten lucky in how your procedure was performed (a "loose" circumcision, e.g.). Five years may not be enough time to see negative effects. You could minimizing negative outcomes. Or, you could simply be lying.
/r/MensRights03/03/20 08:30 PM
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Someone said "just go shoot her". Unless it is the clearest cut example of undeniable self defense ever conceived, that's a one way ticket to a lengthy prison sentence. Now you're living in a modern day violence factory with schizophrenics, 18 different brands of violent racists and a host of actual, real sex offenders. And the food is bad, too. Did you hear about the case of prison guards who deliberately poisoned food to try to kill that dude who filmed police wrongdoing? Got a ton of people s…
/r/MensRights01/03/20 10:21 AM
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I can venture a guess on a few hypothesis explanations. Humans are social animals, and the prospect of being alone, especially for a man who has a very different dating experience from a woman, can be terrifying. "I got lucky with this one, I really don't have any other options, guess I'll have to make due with my lot in life." When you care about someone, being with them can become addictive. Your lizard brain releases dopamine when they're around, despite their shitty attitude (which isn't shi…
/r/MensRights01/03/20 10:08 AM
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Bold of you to assume I talk to my cat so pertly.
/r/MensRights01/03/20 09:38 AM
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A false accuser isn't just a "liar". A mere liar is someone who commits tax fraud, or insurance fraud, or sends people empty boxes on ebay. A false accuser is some commits much worse crimes that directly victimize another person. It's silly to pretend otherwise. If the leniency were proportional to the crimes they commit, and proportional to leniency toward similar criminals like Ariel Castro, that would be fine. Kidnapping, imprisonment, aggravated assault, sexual assault, with guns - or at the…
/r/MensRights01/03/20 01:24 AM
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A mob boss pays his hitman. Irrelevant detail. A violent crime is a violent crime whether or not you are paid to do it. If you murder someone as a favor to a friend it is still murder. If you smash a person sitting on a park bench reading a newspaper in the face with an axe handle as an act of charity to a near stranger, that's still aggravated assault. I imagine they both knew what they were doing. Do you think an adult woman deliberately falsely accusing someone of rape does not know what will…
/r/MensRights29/02/20 12:08 PM
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Would you prefer I had resorted to name-calling? I would prefer that you attempt to address the points I bring up instead of just restating your premise. False accusation, in and of itself is not a violent crime. Wrong, it's not a violent act. It's just words. But so is a mob boss ordering a hit. The IED engineer didn't even build the bomb himself, he told his apprentice how to do it. Clearly non-violent because it's just more words, right? The freeway sniper - definitely non-violent - was merel…
/r/MensRights28/02/20 06:33 PM
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Your surrender is duly noted.
/r/MensRights28/02/20 06:16 AM
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despite an entire history showing otherwise A history you are entirely unable to demonstrate. Isn't that odd. If you are a part of this subreddit you already have views that won't change I am quite amenable to evidence. I think you're projecting. to name two, So you have completely ignored all the issues I brought up. Unsurprising.
/r/MensRights28/02/20 04:47 AM
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Do you really think homeless women have it easier? Most homeless people are men. Most social service dollars go to women. Do you think women in prison have it easier? You are so unlikely to go to prison compared to me it is unreal. And if you do, your sentence will be discounted. Sympathy forward women is enormous, those engaged in illegal behavior are no exception. Is finding a date on tinder Humans are social animals and they suffer when alone. Do you think that is a trivial issue? Your inabil…
/r/MensRights28/02/20 01:35 AM
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I wish I could take people like you, turn you into a man and run you through a divorce court gauntlet. Or make you homeless. Put you in prison. Accuse you of rape. Work for a logging outfit. Hell, just make you try to get a date on tinder. You'd change your tune real quick.
/r/MensRights28/02/20 12:03 AM
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I don't recall claiming you weren't allowed to disagree. Is that the sort of milquetoast statement one resorts to when they realize they've argued themselves into a corner? It's just patently obvious that false accusation is a violent crime; offering trivial punishment to false accusers, even if they do get an attack of the conscience at some later date, is like offering non-punishments to rapists who also feel similarly remorseful. But it's women doing it, and not men, so pussy pass ahoy even a…
/r/MensRights27/02/20 10:53 PM
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The abuse of power by the police force is a completely different debate It has nothing to do with abuse of power. That's what happens when you get arrested in a by-the-book no-one-is-going-to-sue-over-this manner. You are, in effect, kidnapped. You are, in effect, imprisoned against your will. It happens, in effect, with the threat of use of firearms. In addition, prisons and jails are incredibly violent environments. Assault, aggravated assault, sexual assault and rape are common occurrences. T…
/r/MensRights27/02/20 08:54 PM
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and make it a part of the public record. Unless relevant disclosure would violate rape shield laws, in which case it won't be part of any useful record.
/r/MensRights27/02/20 08:22 PM
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false accusation are [...] not physically violent. When a woman points at a man and says "he raped me", what exactly do you think happens if her lie is believed? Do you think rapists receive gilded invitations to saunter into the police station at their leisure for an optional, friendly interview that includes complimentary beverages? No, men with guns will kidnap and imprison him, they will do this with force and they will do this at the very least with the threat of the use of firearms. If he'…
/r/MensRights27/02/20 07:43 PM
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No doubt, but there's no reason for the steep, steep discounts we typically see with false accusation.
/r/MensRights27/02/20 06:26 PM
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There is harm reduction in "coming clean" about rape, too. Victims get closure, and authorities know who to keep an eye on. Offenders can get treatment. Lenient sentences discourage killing the victim to hide the crime. If we're going easy on false accusers - people who are committing kidnapping, aggravated assault, unlawful imprisonment, sexual assault, rape and murder (or at the very least attempted versions of those crimes) - there's no reason we can't give a break to a plain jane rapist. Wit…
/r/MensRights27/02/20 06:17 PM
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I didn't marry a feminist either. Still got divorce raped.
/r/MensRights27/02/20 05:59 PM
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married Oof.
/r/MensRights27/02/20 01:26 PM
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She will put up her ad online and only get two sincere advances a day, instead of 50. The horror!
/r/MensRights27/02/20 01:10 PM
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I did that for awhile. Lotta work. Lotta spam. Not exactly the best results.
/r/MensRights27/02/20 01:01 PM
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an apples to oranges comparison So you claim, but are unable to explain. Unsurprising, given how apt my analogy is. And you know it, too. Hence your temper tantrum response. rape generally already has a lessor sentence than murder False accusation is the equivalent of kidnapping, unlawful imprisonment, among with possible aggravated assault, sexual assault and rape. All these crimes would carry firearm enhancements, of course. If we need to discount that down to two months on weekends, then sent…
/r/MensRights25/02/20 09:52 PM
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Oh, mos def. And you want light sentences for rape too, because you don't want perpetrators killing victims to avoid prosecution. Sixty days in jail for the crime of rape sounds about perfect. And let's make sure it's only served on weekends. Wouldn't want to disrupt any lives.
/r/MensRights25/02/20 07:26 PM
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One incident does not invalidate a trend. Do you not understand concepts like "anecdotal evidence" or "outliers"?
/r/MensRights22/02/20 05:20 AM
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No kidding. Their beging will fall on non-deaf ears when they fix their anti-male bias. Men donating money to Wikipedia would be like a black guy giving money to the Tuskegee Study group.
/r/MensRights18/02/20 04:00 PM
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This sub will never be treated fairly because it's too close to the right wing/red pill/mgtow/incel/misogynistic/sexist subculture bubbles that exist on Reddit and elsewhere online. That's only part of it (and probably a minor factor at that). THE major reason why this sub will never be treated fairly is that feminism seems to be inherently opposed to the idea of men having rights. Feminists attacked an MRA meeting (angry protests, fire alarm pulls, etc.) that was purely about men as survivors o…
/r/MensRights18/02/20 03:50 PM
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You clearly have no idea what living with systemic discrimination is actually like. I wish I could take clueless ding dongs like you and run you through the family court meat grinder as a father. You'd change your tune in a goddamn hurry.
/r/MensRights06/02/20 01:16 AM
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The right thing to do is not to just sit there and stare at something broken. It's certainly not right to create half-baked apologia for it. The right thing to do is notice a problem, like institutionalized sexism, and if possible eliminate it. Acknowledge its existence, if nothing else. Imagine if that was every single day somewhere in your life. I don't need to imagine it. I'm a man. I live it.
/r/MensRights05/02/20 08:33 PM
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That's not what you're saying, though. You're saying "I inherited this Subaru, and it is not allowed to be fixed because someone else didn't change the oil on their Subaru."
/r/MensRights05/02/20 08:14 PM
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Let's not forget custody battles, alimony and "child" support payments.
/r/MensRights05/02/20 04:08 PM
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Feminism by definition is a fight for equality. Not if they're defined by their actions.
/r/MensRights05/02/20 03:52 PM
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YES WE ARE. Women commit rape and abuse just like men do. In addition, women have the special ability of enlisting the aid of others in committing atrocities, like when they make false rape accusations or false abuse accusations. And yet, you have no objection to single women who adopt. Isn't that a funny double standard.
/r/MensRights05/02/20 03:16 PM
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I'm curious, what is the intersectional feminist position on the US child support system? What is the position on practices and outcomes of the typical American divorce court? What is their position on the problem of false rape accusation?
/r/MensRights02/02/20 07:24 PM
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You can't really rely on upvotes as a measure of what this sub approves of, as such. Anti male bigots have a bad habit of brigading the men's rights sub. One of their tactics is to find distasteful posts, upvote them, then crow themselves into a Godwin conniption fit. You should probably also note that the post you're objecting to has a controversial dagger attached.
/r/MensRights02/02/20 06:25 PM
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Yeah. It's one of many issues surrounding the problem, and regurgitating "alpha male" ideology talking points in all-caps doesn't make it go away. It reads like our absent guy here found r/theredpill last December and wants to prosetylize.
/r/MensRights30/01/20 10:15 PM
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Most women First, that sounds like it might be feminist propaganda, like the "1 in 5" number. What if that "most" is old data from the 70s? Even if it's 100% accurate, keep in mind we're talking about abusers, not "most women". Real DV might be rarely reported, what about fake dv? 100% of that gets reported, by definition. Heh. Also if you marry such a person only you are to blame Doubtful, the social condition of living in a divorce rape culture is to blame. If men could leave women truly conse…
/r/MensRights30/01/20 01:36 PM
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The cops who show up aren't going to be weaker, slower and less coordinated. Sure, you can walk away if there isn't any leverage. If she's living with you, if you're married or you have kids, she's got leverage. You won't walk away without consequences. Anyone at any time can claim self defense. I can shoot you in the back of the head from twenty feet away while you're on your knees, and my defense in court can be to claim justifiable homicide. The real consideration is, what are the chances it …
/r/MensRights30/01/20 12:53 PM
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with consequences Words not backed by SD violence = ha ha, ignored. Words backed by SD violence = you go to jail. I guarantee you that these victims probably whine about 'toxic masculinity' Probably not. From the article: Fear of not being believed, of being accused of being the perpetrator and of being seen as ‘less of a man’ were key reasons why men did not seek help, Bristol University researchers found last year.
/r/MensRights30/01/20 12:10 PM
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It's only a poor decision in the context of this happening in a divorce rape culture. It's like an 18th Century slave thinking "yep, shouldn't have gone down to the river with only fifteen warriors with me". Ok, maybe, but minutiae like that isn't what we should be concentrating on.
/r/MensRights30/01/20 02:49 AM
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Sure. Never hurts to ask, I guess.
/r/MensRights29/01/20 02:32 PM
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With what money? The poor bastard is paying almost $1200 a month. Heavy tunes when a lawyer is going to charge $250 an hour. Yet another reason the "child" support system is dog shit social policy.
/r/MensRights29/01/20 01:02 PM
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It's not crazy, it's perfectly rational behavior. If you don't like someone any more, and the system says "leave & alienate and we'll make him pay you" what exactly do you expect to happen? The "child" support system is what's crazy here. Eliminate that instead of trying to blame men for supposedly poor decision-making.
/r/MensRights29/01/20 12:52 PM
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At minimum. Keep in mind that any false accusation of a crime that would warrant arrest is objectively at the very least an attempt to engage in armed kidnapping. If force is actually used then it's at minimum aggravated assault. If someone is killed, it's murder. All these crimes come with firearm enhancements, if appropriate for that jurisdiction.
/r/MensRights26/01/20 10:41 AM
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There's two big issues with the US family court system: sexist decisions and the "child" support bullshit. The first one is that the court systems clearly play favorites for Team Woman. Women get custody most of the time and most other judgements by the FC system also favor women. Obviously, sexism is wrong and should be abolished. The other issue is the money extortion system known as "child" support. The feds pay the states to collect it, so there's a massive conflict of interest right there, …
/r/MensRights22/01/20 01:08 AM
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No shit. The fact remains that if "we all" think that divorced women need an arbitrary level of additional financial support, it's a bullshit scumbag slavery move to force one man to pay for it.
/r/MensRights21/01/20 03:40 PM
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When taxpayers start stepping in to specify what, how and why on the "responsibility" then the taxpayers have volunteered themselves to pay the bill. You don't get to dictate support levels and then saunter off free from responsibility.
/r/MensRights21/01/20 09:41 AM
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If the government says "these kids must be supported at this level" then the government can foot the goddamned bill. It is a gross violation of rights to concentrate costs like this on an individual.
/r/MensRights21/01/20 09:36 AM
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In the bars and clubs, of course. Watch as a woman repeatedly strikes a man, and he gives her a good hard shove in defense. All the men in the club will gang up on the woman and beat her. Also in family courts. Women almost never get custody, and when they do they certainly never get child support. The CS industry is incredibly poor, has no government backing, either financial or legal, and it only collects, what, $10ka year in the entire nation? And most of that from women. Look at social behav…
/r/MensRights14/01/20 06:18 PM
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Is C-51 this bill? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-terrorism_Act,_2015
/r/MensRights14/01/20 01:53 PM
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Do you have a source for that?
/r/MensRights14/01/20 07:07 AM
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Except for the talk Oh no, talk on the internet! Should I fetch your fainting couch? Maybe you need to take your own advice.
/r/MensRights11/01/20 10:46 AM
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Life works better when you don't make a big deal And no one here is.
/r/MensRights11/01/20 05:45 AM
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This by itself, not too big of a deal. But it is part of a larger pattern of behavior.
/r/MensRights11/01/20 01:42 AM
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Not only does society not acknowledge the importance of fathers but the legal system actively seeks to remove them. Cherry on top of the shit sundae: feminists and family court apologists then blame men for not trying and not caring about their kids. "Men who ask for custody get it! What, selection bias? Dishonesty in terminology? Typical MRA sexists, and that's why I hate men."
/r/MensRights24/12/19 10:00 PM
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Ironic, since scar tissue and keratinization is not how you make body parts look better.
/r/MensRights24/12/19 01:49 AM
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I dont think that post actually said they were raised by a single mother A semantic difference at worst. Women are just as capable of being abusive as men. Quite true, but sometimes difficult to get people to recognise given the cognitive biases that tend to favor women.
/r/MensRights17/12/19 08:09 PM
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FC extortion bullshit isn't going to even begin to get fixed until the bullshit starts to affect both men and women equally. So I wish you luck, with the nonsense you're dealing with now and the nonsense you'll deal with in the future.
/r/MensRights17/12/19 06:46 PM
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The unfortunate reality is this: If an enemy and their band of hired goons personally attempt to kidnap someone at gunpoint and lock the victim in their basement for months or years on end, the victim of this assault is well within their legal right to use deadly force to thwart the attack. However, if a criminal manipulates enforcement instruments of the State to the exact same effect, a different standard on the use of deadly force applies.
/r/MensRights17/12/19 06:21 PM
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Part of my counter claim is for child support but she’s reporting finances far below what I would expect of her profession. Willfully underemployed. Impute her income. These are things you should bring up with your lawyer. BTW, why hasn't your lawyer brought up these issues? Is this some sort of white knight family court setting where all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others?
/r/MensRights17/12/19 06:12 PM
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Taking an anecdote from that sub at face value is quite a bit like just believing the lived experience stories of neo-nazis and klan members.
/r/MensRights17/12/19 06:06 PM
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Yes, but the father is a man and therefore will automatically be designated the bad guy. This is especially true when you consider the source subreddit of the screenshot.
/r/MensRights17/12/19 06:02 PM
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I never hear about single mothers doing this https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists/comments/9y818i/organized_a_carry_in_at_work_to_boost_morale_went/ Now you have.
/r/MensRights17/12/19 10:13 AM
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Black people, being human, should have exactly the same human rights as every other human. It would never occur to me to say "sometimes I just want to abandon the idea that black people deserve human rights" regardless of what any number of people of any race or ethnicity might say to me on the internet. My position on that certainly wouldn't waver over a self-admitted "small issue". Ymmv, I guess.
/r/MensRights11/12/19 07:27 PM
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Sometimes the way we collectively respond to this issue make me want to give up on the men's rights movement. Your staunch loyalty to human rights is truly inspiring. Toxic masculinity is the ONLY men's issue that has directly impacted my own personal life. Lucky you. I really wish I could take guys like you and run you through a virtual family court gauntlet, just so you'd know what a real problem is. You'd change your tune real quick.
/r/MensRights11/12/19 05:26 PM
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But y'all ain't having that cuz y'all are nothing like the men in that article. It's good to know you're here to help.
/r/MensRights11/12/19 05:14 PM
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but her casting an opinion isn’t an infringement on your rights. The bigoted attitude she expresses, and the bigotry you defend, perpetuates the political behavior that does infringe the rights of men.
/r/MensRights16/10/19 02:21 PM
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And then the double standard is amply illustrated by the dipshit in the comments. "If your son reports my felony threats of violence he's a weakling!" Enjoy your impending police interaction.
/r/MensRights20/07/19 02:25 PM
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Because he's full of shit. Taking care of kids is easy, ESPECIALLY when it's your only job. No one else is your boss, you are the boss. There is no written evaluation, no one looking over your shoulder ensuring that you're working every minute on the clock, no monthly quotas to meet, no customer service relationship to maintain. You pick who your co workers are. You decide when where and how everything happens with the kids, and you do it without dealing with the modern corporate nonsense that e…
/r/MensRights14/07/19 09:45 PM
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Because it's not about justice, it's about fat paychecks for family court industry scumbags. Fifteen years ago in my city divorce attorney fees started at around $200 an hour and just went up up up from there. The courts charged a cool $2K for an "evaluation" that was two 1 hr home visits, two one hour interviews and a copy/paste 3 page report. What's 2000/5? Don't you wish you could use the courts to force people to pay you an hourly wage like that? Never, ever look to the FC shitbirds for anyt…
/r/MensRights14/07/19 09:33 PM
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Yep, it's the incentive to maintain the divorce industry. Promise a cash payout and the lawyers, GALs, parental advisors, DSHS drones, supervised visitation monitors and all the other various parasites get a nice, thick cut of somebody's life savings and future earrings. Giant scam. Fuck family courts and every scumbag associated with them.
/r/MensRights14/07/19 09:15 PM
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Can't even write your own material. Weak.
/r/MensRights20/05/19 08:24 PM
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Your reasoning is rapist logic. You know it is, because I have clearly explained it. Frustrated by your defeat, you behave the way stupid people usually do. Ho hum.
/r/MensRights20/05/19 01:00 PM
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If only everyone valued evidence and sound reasoning that rejected rapist logic.
/r/MensRights20/05/19 12:01 PM
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Not when you run away from relevant points, unfortunately.
/r/MensRights20/05/19 01:29 AM
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You missed the source I cited, didn't ya. Heh. Your surrender is duly noted.
/r/MensRights20/05/19 12:19 AM
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I have given you a direct source. Ignore it if you want, you're still wrong. An accident is a definite possibility... ...that can only be remedied by paying for repairs. A pregnancy can be dealt with in a variety of other ways, and the choice is unilateral. If a child results, it is because she made that choice. Her choice, her responsibility. There are of course other factors, but complexity does not appear to be your forte, so I'll limit myself to slogans.
/r/MensRights19/05/19 09:58 PM
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25 years? You know you only pay til they are 18 right? CS payments can continue for life if the child is disabled, or until the age of 25 if the nominal child pursues higher education. Dipshit. When you drive a car False analogy. Do I really need to explain this to you, the difference between a car accident that happens in an instant and a pregnancy that progresses over 3/4ths of a year? Sheesh.
/r/MensRights19/05/19 09:22 PM
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Ironic insult detected. Anyway, this "he agreed to sex so he agreed by default to 25 years of CS scam payments" is exactly the same reasoning as "she agreed to have dinner with me, so she agreed by default to have sex with me." So in addition to being a giant dipshit, you're also using rapist logic. Good job.
/r/MensRights19/05/19 08:23 PM
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I'm not entirely sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me. Perhaps you should clarify.
/r/MensRights19/05/19 07:44 PM
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Sure. On the other hand, the empathy gap is real. People won't see the danger until they see how it hurts women.
/r/MensRights19/05/19 07:22 PM
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And even if you weren't raped, so what. Agreeing to sex is NOT agreeing to becoming a parent. Even if you agreed to become a parent, you certainly didn't agree to become her parent, nor did you agree to enslave yourself to the CS racket.
/r/MensRights19/05/19 07:09 PM
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Not sure how it's less bad when you force a man to fight to stay in his kids' lives (and also fight the various false allegations that so frequently crop up) and at the same time take away his ability to hire a lawyer.
/r/MensRights19/05/19 02:16 PM
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Nobody forced you to have unprotected sex Yeah, and nobody forced her to have dinner with me, so by your rapist logic that means she has pre-agreed to fucking afterward, right?
/r/MensRights19/05/19 01:53 PM
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fathers who are forced to pay child support for a kid they didn't want As if the CS extortion system is acceptable when it's exploiting men who wanted to be fathers.
/r/MensRights19/05/19 01:43 PM
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Oh, sure, there's forms to fill and lawyer fees to pay (naturally). I'd love to see the stats on fc rejection of such petitions. I bet it's really close to zero.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 12:42 PM
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So what are your options? Hope you have solid evidence she's a drug addict, an alcoholic or a convicted felon, AND you've got the green to pay for a lawyer.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 12:39 PM
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And if Canada is anything like the US, the first thing they do is apply for (and automatically receive) emergency child support, so there goes whatever spare income you might have had. Good luck on those 250/hr lawyer fees!
/r/MensRights16/05/19 12:31 PM
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Not so much, that's more of a side effect. Child support is more about the feds paying the states to collect CS, so the states incentivise divorce. And, of course, there is also the host of family court parasites and their state-mandated incomes pushing things in a particular direction.
/r/MensRights16/05/19 12:24 PM
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If the British Home Office numbers hold true for the Untied States What makes you think they would? While we're here, what is the British Home Office criteria and method for classifying an accusation as false?
/r/MensRights09/05/19 12:04 AM
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Kind of a funny double standard, isn't it. Almost like men are treated as second class citizens.
/r/MensRights03/05/19 03:03 AM
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If they're spending time with their children instead of being forced to work, they aren't losing everything. But the parent who works is missing a ton of time spent with their children. What is their compensation for that after a divorce?
/r/MensRights03/05/19 03:02 AM
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C'mon. Feminists could easily be opposed to it and yet not necessarily be the origin of it. But the idea that women must get custody of children after divorce (the "Tender Years" doctrine) is in fact a policy of feminist origin. And NOW fights against attempts to change the law to a presumption of shared custody at every opportunity. Here's an archived article from the New York NOW chapter: https://archive.is/pGeu3 So my claim still stands uncontested.
/r/MensRights03/05/19 02:59 AM
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The shit bags get paid by the feds to collect CS. Money is a strong incentive to get people to deny reality.
/r/MensRights03/05/19 12:45 AM
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Asdsuming you're in the US, your money won't be recoverable through the family court extortion racket, but you should definitely talk to an attorney about recovering that money through normal civil court.
/r/MensRights03/05/19 12:38 AM
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Unmitigated bullshit. Feminists fight against equality in family courts.
/r/MensRights02/05/19 01:49 PM
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Your career choices are your own, man or woman. It's rather fucked to separate from someone but still expect something from them.
/r/MensRights02/05/19 01:47 PM
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losing her earning and her earning potential While at the same time she doesn't have to commute to work back and forth every day, deal with asshole co-workers or an asshole boss, be "on the clock" or risk her health and safety the way employees do. She hangs out with family members all day raising her own kids and she's her own boss. You working, otoh, have to deal with all of that. What compensation do you get from her...other than the theft of your money and making you into a part time visitor…
/r/MensRights02/05/19 12:29 PM
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Babydoll, your participation here was entirely consensual. : )
/r/MensRights30/04/19 12:49 PM
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Women are now so important that they are owed someones life work even after they have left that person in ruins. Rewards like that keep them coming back to family court and paying family court fees, and then forcing the ex to pay them as well. It's really not that the women - or even the kids - are important. The lawyers' bank accounts sure are, though.
/r/MensRights30/04/19 12:28 PM
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Checking my post history? I really got in your head, didn't I. Heh.
/r/MensRights30/04/19 12:11 PM
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Can't even come up with your own material. Weak.
/r/MensRights29/04/19 10:22 PM
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Dumb, long. tl;dr Your surrender is duly noted, though.
/r/MensRights29/04/19 08:42 PM
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Male rape denial, white knighting, patently obvious lies, angry that men would dare question women, cowardly attempts to curtail discussion...that's feminist dogshit falling straight out of your nematode mouth. Own it or change your ways, dummy.
/r/MensRights29/04/19 07:47 PM
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If you don't want to be mistaken for a feminist, stop talking like one.
/r/MensRights29/04/19 03:49 PM
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Surely this is not the first time you've heard of a "false flag" operation.
/r/MensRights29/04/19 12:47 PM
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I am entirely unsurprised that a feminist would disagree with sexual equality, freedom of speech and intellectual honesty.
/r/MensRights29/04/19 12:04 PM
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We're talking about rape, doesn't mean we need to keep it bigoted, sexist and white drinking fountain/black drinking fountain. Let people bring up the subjects they want to bring up rather than THIS IS OUR SPECIAL ISSUE, YOU AREN'T ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT IT IN OUR PRESENCE. Intellectual honesty and all that.
/r/MensRights29/04/19 01:16 AM
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I know the idea that Team Woman might lose an Oppression Point somewhere fills you with existential dread, but that's no excuse to turn your brain off. Look at the title of the screenshot. If the only info we're operating on is what we see in this thread, this woman "hates being a woman" which means she thinks it's not an issue for men. Pointing out how it is...on topic. QED
/r/MensRights28/04/19 08:51 PM
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...and how easy men have it compared to women. The subject of male rape is perfectly on topic.
/r/MensRights28/04/19 05:59 PM
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If you think talking about rape of men is off topic when the subject is rape, that's you being a rape denier (along with being a dipshit cooze for needing that explained to you).
/r/MensRights28/04/19 03:23 PM
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You and your rape denial. Try to keep up.
/r/MensRights28/04/19 11:35 AM
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Only if you're a rape-denier, toots.
/r/MensRights27/04/19 10:47 PM
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Vietnam has no sexual assault of men, no male child sex trade, no prison rape? I'm skeptical.
/r/MensRights27/04/19 08:39 PM
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If it's not clear from available evidence then you can't state it's "super off topic", either.
/r/MensRights27/04/19 06:44 PM
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As far as frequency goes, men may get raped more than women. Still on topic.
/r/MensRights27/04/19 05:59 PM
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The best comparison would be to a delusional idiot who tries to hide behind patently stupid misdirects like whining "that's off topic!" when someone points out their delusion.
/r/MensRights27/04/19 05:38 PM
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The comment said "men don't get raped". How can pointing out that men do get raped be off topic? "I prefer cats over dogs because cats are mammals." "Um, dogs are mammals." "Shut up you derailer! This is about cats!"
/r/MensRights27/04/19 05:30 PM
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If the premise is "men don't get raped" and someone points out that men do in fact get raped, it's fairly illiterate to think such an observation would constitute "shoehorning."
/r/MensRights27/04/19 05:16 PM
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Ostensibly for the child, but actually there for all the family court parasites.
/r/MensRights11/04/19 12:35 PM
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So you defend yourself forcefully. Maybe you leave a mark. She calls 911 and tearfully begs the dispatcher to send their burliest cops because you DV'd her. Maybe for fun she'll toss off a false rape accusation. Now what?
/r/MensRights28/03/19 06:34 PM
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Because the feds pay the states to collect child support. Isn't it interesting how "best interests of the child" in practice works out to "best interests of the lawyers and politicians".
/r/MensRights10/02/19 05:25 PM
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It's simple. If a [sex] does a bad thing to a [same sex] then it isn't really a problem. Female genital mutilation, for example, is perpetrated mostly by women, and that's why FGM is never a feminist talking point. Source: https://www.unicef.org/cbsc/files/UNICEF_FGM_report_July_2013_Hi_res.pdf Pg 42-44 plus charts
/r/MensRights14/01/19 04:52 PM
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The issue is can money be repaid from the mother to the cuckolded father for child support. The answer is no. He had the right to test. A scam victim has a right to ask questions and do research before getting scammed, but that doesn't mean they can't seek compensation after the fact...(ETA)...even if they didn't ask questions and do research beforehand.
/r/MensRights13/01/19 07:59 PM
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That is literally not how that works. Wrong. The attitude of others can only be relevant to your own support of civil rights if you have previously concluded it is possible for it to be. That means you think in at least some instances it is reasonable to oppose civil rights based on how someone else has hurt your feelings. And in case you're wondering, for a moral person, it should NEVER be.
/r/MensRights13/01/19 06:11 PM
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You can’t seem to distinguish between asking questions and drawing conclusions. "I have issues aligning myself with a cause that so clearly despises me." is a statement from someone who has already drawn a conclusion, i.e. that their support for a principle or ideal is predicated on hurt feelings. And, of course, we glossed over how one guy talking on the internet isn't a spokesman for an entire cause. It feels a bit like you’re just arguing for the sake of argument I'm sure it feels that way to…
/r/MensRights13/01/19 05:17 PM
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Apparently you can’t grasp that concept Oh, I grasp the concept. But in doing so, I recognize the inherent stupidity and immorality of it. If I go to a rally in support of white people only to find myself surrounded by white supremacists, I’m going to have an issue. An issue of wavering on whether or not there should be concentration camps for white people? Do you decide "that's it, never associating with any white people, ever"? Or do you take the reasonable approach of saying "those particular…
/r/MensRights13/01/19 04:40 PM
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You're not supporting "someone"! You're supporting an ideal, a principle. It is rather disturbing that you don't inherently understand this.
/r/MensRights13/01/19 04:10 PM
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I totally know what you mean. Normally, I think raping women should be illegal, but then sometimes women use words like "dude bro" and "neck beard" when talking about MRAs, and then those gosh darn conflicting emotions just show up.
/r/MensRights13/01/19 03:46 PM
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You have good arguments in your first paragraph but as a woman I have issues aligning myself with the cause of someone who so clearly despises me. A person who actually cares about civil rights and fair treatment under the law probably shouldn't abandon that interest because someone on the internet hurt their feelings. Can you imagine if whites had walked away from the American civil rights movement in the 50s because "blacks just don't have the right attitude of appreciation, I heard a couple t…
/r/MensRights13/01/19 03:16 PM
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If you want to know for sure, DNA test your children if not, do not. But then don't try and recover money if the kids turn out not to be yours. If you find out about cuckold behavior ten years down the road, tough luck? Seems like you're saying that there shouldn't be any punishment as long as you're a particularly good criminal.
/r/MensRights13/01/19 02:48 PM
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Heh, ok.
/r/MensRights13/01/19 01:19 AM
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First, ‘sounds like bullshit’ is an argument from personal incredulity. Indeed, so I went back and checked a few. Survey result: bullshit. But hey, if you think you said words to the effect of "it can be appropriate to discuss MGM alongside FGM, it depends on context" to me prior to getting called out on it, feel free to post an example. Second, I have mentioned 2-3 times on this post that about 25% of my point in posting here is turn-about, After-the-fact rationalization of your hypocrisy. But …
/r/MensRights11/01/19 08:47 PM
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In every single post I have made, I spoke about the context. Sounds like bullshit. Yes, topic drift sometimes happens on the internet... but men frequently That also sounds like bullshit. It's more likely just a cognitive bias on your part because the whole thing upsets you so much, causing you to conflate emotional impact with frequency. BTW, nice to see you think this is a sin that only men commit, but never women...like you in this thread. lol And let's not forget that women can also support …
/r/MensRights11/01/19 08:27 PM
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Did I say, ‘never?’ No, I did not. Um, yeah, you did. In every one of your posts where you talk about how awful FGM is and how benign MGM is and how that invalidates mention of MGM, there was never a "Now, sometimes this doesn't apply" or "OK, here's where it's acceptable to bring up MGM when talking about FGM" or "Now, this prohibition isn't always appropriate, it depends on context" or anything similar. Of course, when a bigot is called on it, then they'll pay their lip service. But if you wan…
/r/MensRights11/01/19 07:31 PM
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And there it is, the double standard. Can we bring up women's issues when they're potholes? "Oh, it depends on the context." What about male genital mutilation? "Never." I think I had a point with It was probably that it doesn't matter nearly as much when men kill other men.
/r/MensRights11/01/19 01:12 PM
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I wasn’t the one who brought up murder, iirc, You were.
/r/MensRights11/01/19 04:15 AM
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And yet you did. Weird.
/r/MensRights11/01/19 03:50 AM
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It’s true that men are murdered by men more That's an interesting detail to highlight. Why do you bring that up? If the discussion is about men murdering their spouses The discussion is about men being killed on the job, but we can see yet another example of how the supposed rules are really meant to apply unequally.
/r/MensRights11/01/19 02:15 AM
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If I were going to act like you, this is the part where I'd tell you how much worse the problem is for men and tell you to stop talking about female death in this context (while simultaneously claiming I wasn't trying to tell you to stop talking about it).
/r/MensRights10/01/19 06:32 PM
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It is not silencing You haven't addressed this point: Is the government "silencing" dissent when they establish 'free speech zones' that restrict protest locations? It is not a straw man to say that I have said at least 5 times - now 6 - that I do not support MGM. It is a strawman when you acknowledge I've never accused you of that. I've accused you of silencing and minimizing. You provide no argument to counter this, except reflexive denial. I have not said that it is not that bad. "I haven't s…
/r/MensRights10/01/19 05:44 PM
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I’m saying that there are appropriate and inappropriate places to have each discussion. Sorry, but that's silencing. "It's not real gential mutilation, have that discussion over here." Or are you a big fan of government mandated free speech zones? And, for at least the fifth time: Nice strawman. I agree that it is bad. You say that, but you certainly spent a lot of time trying to explain to me - completely orthogonal to any point I was making I might add - how circumcision isn't that big of a de…
/r/MensRights10/01/19 01:45 AM
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They were about relative privation, and the appropriateness of speaking in one context or another. IOW, the relative privation fallacy. As I have already said As has been already pointed out, it is your distasteful silencing ideology - including the hypocrisy - that provokes backlash.
/r/MensRights10/01/19 12:51 AM
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That’s not what I said. So all those posts about relative privation weren't about relative privation. Alrighty then. Do you see? Just curious, is the place for discussion of FGM not in threads about MGM?
/r/MensRights09/01/19 06:26 PM
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So you agree the relative privation argument is a fallacy. Then why employ it?
/r/MensRights08/01/19 11:16 PM
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Even type 1 FGM is more serious 1) Not for women in the western world. 2) A problem is still a problem even if there are larger problems out there, especially if the larger problem is far less amenable to correction. Most men who have circumcisions can still enjoy sex without having to train themselves to do so; the same cannot be said for most women who are subject to FGM. I have to wonder if there aren't problems with such a conclusion. Are sexual interest differentials between men and women t…
/r/MensRights08/01/19 09:34 PM
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Another example: the US infrastructure is in horrible shape and getting worse, and discussing it is totally valid; however, barging in to a discussion on the Chinese Belt project, or a discussion on the lack of roads worldwide, with complaints about the potholes on your own street, will not be appreciated... even if that’s really a genuinely horrible pothole. The analogy isn't quite correct. You also have to imagine the original discussion also includes potholes and even more minor issues, as we…
/r/MensRights08/01/19 05:46 PM
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and it is relevant in the west bc native-born girls of immigrants are sent ‘home’ to be cut. If only a trip to a foreign country had been a mandatory requirement for my own genital mutilation as an infant. And consider this darkly amusing side-thought: the number of shushers who never for a day in their lives had to worry about genital mutilation, trying to police the way actual, real genital mutilation victims talk about this subject! smh If your argument is between [etc.] I think I made it fai…
/r/MensRights08/01/19 01:14 AM
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FGM is worse, as it is usually practiced And almost entirely illegal in western countries. There is, however, genital mutilation happening with societal consent and approval all over in the US. So maybe it deserves a seat at the table for such discussions. I absolutely have seen men barge in and say that everyone there should only be worried about MGM because it’s closer to ‘home’ Bit extreme, but there's a point there. Does the legality of FGM in Yemen hinge on remaining hyper-focused in that o…
/r/MensRights07/01/19 06:43 PM
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Was I talking about discussions of only type 1 FGM? [eye roll] But take a look at your reaction to my barging into your discussion of MGM with a discussion of FGM, and how much it's pissing you all off. Object lesson, eh? If you think the reason is the same you are entirely stupid. MRAs do not care if you bring up FGM along side MGM discussions. We welcome it, as a matter of fact, because it indicates people understand that yes, GM is GM even if it happens to a man, and that both FGM and MGM sho…
/r/MensRights07/01/19 07:33 AM
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I was explaining AND agreeing with the position. Or do you think it's fine and acceptable for men and women MRAs to bring up circumcision in a discussion about type 1 FGM? No, you don't. So my condemnation of you as a holder of that position is quite valid. BTW, you should probably understand that the severity of an individual act is not the only aspect that can make a particular social ill discussion-worthy or comparable. It's like saying you can't talk about date rape in a rape discussion beca…
/r/MensRights07/01/19 06:57 AM
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Saying "That type of talk is not appreciated" is the same thing as saying "Don't talk about that." When you start putting arbitrary conditions on how one is permitted to talk about a particular subject, you're so close to saying "Don't talk about that" you might as well be saying it. Run from your words and your position if you want, I guess. I'm not the one who looks like a piece of shit sexist bigot here.
/r/MensRights07/01/19 03:17 AM
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Did I say that you can't talk about MGM? No, I did not. talking about having the foreskin removed is not appreciated. Ok, so you're going to split hairs and quibble. Typical.
/r/MensRights07/01/19 02:27 AM
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What other arbitrary, stupid gatekeeping rules should men be aware of regarding feminist permission to discuss gender problems? Feminists yammer endlessly about how men don't need rights, we just need more feminism. But the more feminism I see, the more I see people just telling me to shut up about things that are straight up wrong.
/r/MensRights06/01/19 07:03 PM
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That's a good point! Imagine a scenario where a woman goes to the cop shop to report a rape, but the cops taking her report say "Oops, sorry, you're the unlucky 1-in-50. We have to outright reject every 50th rape report as false, regardless of evidence. Door's that way." Now imagine this happened 1 time out of every 12 reports. Would feminists say "Oh, that's rare, don't worry about it."? Doubtful.
/r/MensRights03/01/19 11:09 PM
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Society does! I'm skeptical. Society spends millions on collecting child support, and of course provide the full backing of the power of the state in the effort of collecting it. They'll put a man in prison for missing child support payments. Yeah, debtors prison. What do they spend and who do they imprison when a man is alienated from his kids? I experienced it. They don't do shit. They'll actively participate, in fact. I'm not sure how you figure society would be valuing a man's role as a fath…
/r/MensRights19/12/18 06:26 AM
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think about how children with a lack of parental support tend to cost a society in other ways, though, such as crime. And you think forcing one parent to pay the other is going to fix that? No, that's only going to be fixed by having stable two parent households. And that problem is only going to be fixed when society views a father as necessity to a child's life, not a disposable wallet.
/r/MensRights19/12/18 05:59 AM
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That means the parent has foregone a responsibility that will fall on others, If society says that children must be supported at some arbitrary level of financial contribution, then the society that says so can damn well foot the bill.
/r/MensRights18/12/18 03:00 AM
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If the government and/or we-the-people decide that children need to be supported at some arbitrary financial level, the government and we-the-people can damn well foot the bill. Collectively creating debt (and massive debt, at that) and then foisting it off on individuals is incredibly harmful public policy.
/r/MensRights13/12/18 03:56 PM
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When I read it, I see a plea for basic respect for human rights. Fake, made-up debt of two hundred and forty THOUSAND dollars, and they start taking away rights if it isn't paid. It's madness.
/r/MensRights13/12/18 03:53 PM
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$140K paid, 90K still in debt? Gimmie a break, kids are not that expensive...unless this conveniently manufactured debt comes from a paper published by a government agency looking for job security. Howabout it comes off like "I served my country, so maybe that same country could, idk, NOT make me into an indentured servant through the family court extortion scam?"
/r/MensRights13/12/18 03:49 PM
8

Your dick has a giant scar all the way around it and the head is a keratinized mess. Let's hope you don't develop keloid scarring. No amount of soap and water is going to fix the mutilation you suffered.
/r/MensRights10/11/18 05:59 PM
2

Bystander effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect
/r/MensRights28/10/18 09:51 PM
1

A "hug".
/r/MensRights03/06/18 01:41 PM
1

You get a solid say in who you marry. But no solid information on the risks that come with marriage and dealing with the family court system. Young men are typically not given this information, or even told this is information that they need. Even if you are the exception and were given this info, the hypothesis that you can get the full measure of a person is utter fantasy. The human mind is a complex system. You cannot know how someone will change ten years down the line or how they will behav…
/r/MensRights25/04/18 12:22 AM
1

I went 14 before my FRA + $60K + CS payments divorce.
/r/MensRights25/04/18 12:06 AM
1

Three days to come up with this worthless bigot response? Well done.
/r/MensRights30/03/18 03:02 PM
3

I'm AGREEING with the content No, you're not. You're berating us (and offering no help, yourself) and puking out stupid tone arguments because we're not doing things exactly the way you want them done. You and your stupid attitude should just shut the fuck up already.
/r/MensRights26/03/18 09:27 PM
3

Making abortions illegal would be the same as bringing women closer to mens level of reproductive rights. But still not close since no one is going to take her kid away from her, permit her to see her kid only 4 days a month, and then force her to pay the man alienating her from her child for "privilege" of it.
/r/MensRights26/03/18 07:00 PM
4

I love this stupid shit attitude from women swimming in their endless sea of privilege. The MRM HAS done more than complain. We've been attacked by feminists every single time we've tried to fix the family court bigotry. NOW gets a case of the vapors and uses their political might to club down any attempt to fix the problem. You don't even know about these instances and you have the chutzpah to try to lecture us on what we should do, you stupid, ignorant child? Educate yourself.
/r/MensRights26/03/18 05:49 PM
4

I see so many guys putting their heads in the sand when marriages aren't going well, not admitting it, not willing to go to counselling... well, that's when you should be pragmatic and figure out how to document your parenting, get a lawyer early, etc. Is there a sticky post with links to resources in this area in different countries, perhaps? Be thankful you're saying this in r/mr. If you had said this same general thing about women and rape elsewhere on Reddit, you'd be excoriated for victim b…
/r/MensRights26/03/18 03:12 PM
9

You'd think the person in favor of sexually mutilating Jewish kids would reasonably considered to be the one who hates Jews.
/r/MensRights23/03/18 12:36 AM
3

That's what they'll tell you. Words are wind.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 05:14 PM
2

I dont see how you end up blaming the woman for that. The same way you blame any other victimizer...if you're not too stupid to see basic cause and effect, of course.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 05:12 PM
5

That's hilarious. The victim forced into a crazy, abusive situation who acts irrationally is the bad guy here. It's definitely not the dogshit human using false accusation tactics to alienate the father of her children (and simultaneously scamming money from him for the "privilege" of never seeing his kids again).
/r/MensRights21/03/18 03:10 PM
1

made up boogeyman Ignorant. QED https://www.purplemotes.net/2011/03/22/persons-in-jail-for-child-support-debt/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 02:45 PM
1

You should expect him to thump your ass over and over again because you can't open your mouth without shitting out a brick-stupid strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:43 AM
1

None of your questionable citations support your "2 in 10" claim. Child support only covers 28% of total cost of child rearing. Your source doesn't say that. It says the father is paying 100% of his own costs, and over a quarter of hers. Must be nice to be able to steal away someone's kids, and then force the man to pay for the privilege. Marriage and Religion Research Institute Definitely a reliable source. Fact 6. Stats for the UK, not the US. I'm done. Good. You're fairly stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 06:45 PM
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So no, the emotional responses would not be the same. They would be the same if the person being accused of cheating was really histrionic. OP appears to be inadvertently saying that women are more emotionally unstable than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 04:41 PM
1

probably only 2 out of 10 will IOW, you have no idea what the number is, you're just making shit up to cater to your own prejudices. Typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 03:57 PM
1

Most men don't want custody of their children. Pattently ridiculous. Most men do want to be part of their children's lives. When the mother alienates them and the courts back her play all the way, men are forced out of their children's lives. Joint custody is a thing and easier to settle than sole custody, why don't men opt for that? Because women fight tooth and nail for sole custody, and family courts are happy to oblige. They want the money that comes with it, and, of course, they don't want …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 06:08 AM
1

So men who pay high $$ child support means that he doesn't spend time with his children anymore. AKA deadbeat dads Family courts have the ability to establish one parent as the custodial parent, and the other as the non-custodial parent, and fights in family court are often over who is to be the custodial parent. Equating a man who lost in a lopsided court fight with a 'deadbeat' is fairly ignorant. And your hypothetical above of Maria and Sam, odds are that Sam would be paying Maria (about $250…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 04:58 PM
1

People more strongly motivated to commit suicide will probably select methods that are (perceived to be) more lethal.
/r/MensRights01/12/17 06:07 PM
2

AND paying child support at the regularly expected rate for my income. And this little bit is such a complete load of horseshit. "You need to support your kids!" is a self-serving lie (I'm sure I don't need to explain this to you, but I like a good rant). I am already supporting my children. I have to pay my mortgage, electricity bill, buy food, put gas in my car, pay for auto insurance and all the rest just like she does. I don't get a discount on my mortgage just because I only see my kids fou…
/r/MensRights29/11/17 05:46 PM
4

The problem here is that babies can't roll over until they are around 4 months of age. No, the problem here is that the statistical mean baby can't roll over until approximately 48 weeks, and bureaucracies populated by bigoted ideologues are too stupid to understand the implications of super duper complex concepts like bell curves. And numbers.
/r/MensRights29/11/17 05:19 PM
2

Well, financially it worked out to $322 000 in child support, and about $48 000 in legal bills, but all that ended last year when my son turned 18. Lucky me, my CS bill will only be $108K, but the legal one was around $60k. Depending on your state laws, if your son had gone to college CS could have continued for up to another seven years. Any government system that makes a parent feel monetarily incentivised to not have their child be as well-educated as possible should be drug by its self-servi…
/r/MensRights29/11/17 05:10 PM
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Look at all that male privilege.
/r/MensRights22/11/17 04:08 PM
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Wouldn't you? It's a pretty sweet gig. You stay at home playing with your kids all day: video games, pro wrestling, laser tag, sword fights, D&D, museums, movies. Meanwhile, some other poor sucker goes out and fights rush hour traffic coming and going to do some task so shitty they have to give you money to get it done.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/11/17 05:21 PM
9

Quote mining. Here's the context; http://www.laconiadailysun.com/special-sections/columns/103936-rep-robert-fisher-official-statement-regarding-claims-by-daily-beast This is the kind of blatantly dishonest shit that creationists pull, though, so no surprise to see the feminists following suit given their own ideological inclinations.
/r/MensRights21/11/17 04:07 PM
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Read his official statement. It's a quote taken WAY out of context.
/r/MensRights21/11/17 04:01 PM
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"All men are rapists!" "I don't know about that, but a lot of women are certainly false accusers. After all, look at you sitting here falsely accusing every single man on the planet of being a rapist."
/r/MensRights18/11/17 02:44 PM
2

I started with Google because its easier to do on a phone. My Twitter search turned up one poster who claimed to punch feminists and sjws as much as he punches nazis. There was also a post advocating violence against a vaguely specified man if he tried to talk about feminism. The rest were incidental, non-characteristic mentions. ETA: my own "punch MRAs" Twitter search turned up a raft full of fantasized or advocated violence against people who think men should have rights, however. So the tu qu…
/r/MensRights12/09/17 01:28 PM
4

I see multiple hits for a song called "Feminists, Don't Have a Cow" by Punch. It appears to be about extending rights to animals based on feminism. I do see advocation for violence when I Google "punch MRAs", however.
/r/MensRights12/09/17 12:48 PM
2

Introduce reality to their victimization fantasy.
/r/MensRights12/09/17 12:37 PM
2

Profit incentive.
/r/MensRights19/08/17 03:18 PM
0

Marriage, maybe. There's the potential for some loss there. The real bear trap is having kids. That is a guaranteed payment plan. Unless you get custody of course (or some other magic fantasy scenario occurs).
/r/TheRedPill13/07/17 03:02 AM
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They said if they give the woman too much of a sentence, it will stop women from wanting to "come forward" in the future. Just imagine what feminists would say about our society if rape were punished this leniently and with the same rationalization. "We feel it is fair to give rapists one month of weekends-only prison for every rape victim they create. We don't want to make the punishment too harsh because this prevents the perpetrator from confessing their crimes and coming forward."
/r/MensRights15/05/17 02:15 PM
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You might want to edit your original comment. It seems rather like you're claiming that men commit more violence and thus the bigotry against men is justified.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 03:41 PM
2

Hey mang, this isn't about 'gotchas' and internet one-upping. Lots of men seem to be woefully underinformed about just what exactly can happen to them in family court. CS can be a crushing debt with no way to vacate it, and family courts don't seem to really care about visitation as much as they care about collecting their money. Maybe it's different in Canada, but given the stakes I wouldn't want to be caught unaware if it's not.
/r/MensRights18/04/17 06:33 PM
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I'm no expert on Canadian law, but as I understand it, Canadian law permits similar abuses. Have you looked into the legalities of separation, alienation and child support in your jurisdiction?
/r/MensRights18/04/17 03:05 PM
2

A man won't be able to use an affair as a stepping stone to state-sponsored extortion and alienation.
/r/MensRights18/04/17 02:55 PM
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It's really the "having kids" aspect of this that gets you. She's gonna get paid if she says you're the dad, there are a lot of laws and intellectual justifications in place to ensure that.
/r/MensRights18/04/17 02:52 PM
2

The principles shown here (and more not shown!) apply to all marriages. It is up to the woman whether or not they are exercised.
/r/MensRights18/04/17 02:44 PM
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Unfortunately, marriage isn't the real "gotcha" here. It's having a kid. If you two separate, she can still extract money from you and alienate you with impunity. Depending on how vindictive she wants to be, she can do everything depicted in this comic, and more.
/r/MensRights18/04/17 02:41 PM
1

He didn't Female privilege.
/r/MensRights18/04/17 02:31 PM
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Aspiring model ... Patrick Murray, Alder's stepfather, said she was a good person, very hardworking and wanted to be a model. If that's all it takes, then call me an aspiring pornstar-fucker. Hand me the lotion while you're at it.
/r/MensRights10/04/17 05:23 PM
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12 months is plenty long. Using the words of the criminal herself “It’s not enough.” Kidnapping someone, holding them for sixteen hours and subjecting them to group sexual assault should not result in a mere twelve month sentence. Men whose only crime is unpaid child support have spent longer imprisoned.
/r/MensRights10/04/17 12:36 PM
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Did you ever listen to the 911 call? With the audio doctored by CBS? Especially the part when he leaves his car and confronts the kid Zimmerman left his car to look at the street sign, at the request for location from the 911 operator. Martin is the one who confronted Zimmerman, and all the available evidence supports this. Even the prosecution's star witness confirmed this. and the police SPECIFICALLY told him NOT to do that! Earlier in the call, the 911 operator tells Zimmerman he doesn't have…
/r/MensRights10/04/17 12:21 PM
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If this hypothetical guy took off his watch leaving it on the table to go to the bathroom or something, and it got stolen, then I'd throw a good amount of that blame his way. Really? You'd give him like 30% of the sentence that the thief would receive? Of course, that's not what you're saying. JUST LIKE no one is saying that women are to blame for being raped, like they are responsible. Only the rapist or the thief is responsible for rape or theft. However, knowing that there are unpleasant peop…
/r/MensRights07/04/17 10:54 PM
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Your story and this is exactly the reason why the "child" support system in this country needs to be burned to the ground. Government corruption. Financial incentives to shatter families. Modern slavery. Fuck this system.
/r/MensRights07/04/17 08:52 PM
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Ya'll hate women Oh listen, it's the warbling snivel of the shit-breasted feminist. A very characteristic identification method. Talk about mens rights in any capacity and they are sure to chime in with their distinctive, predictable whine.
/r/MensRights06/04/17 06:49 AM
1

This DOES dramatically affect their future prospects. It also comes with a shit ton of benefits. If you want to work an easy job, you accept that you will not be compensated at nearly the level of someone taking a more difficult job...unless you're a woman swimming in female privilege.
/r/MensRights06/04/17 06:42 AM
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It made sense in a time when men were the sole bread winners and women were dependant upon us Even then, if her chosen career path was wife and/or mom, nothing stopped her from continuing in that vein at a different "place of employment".
/r/MensRights06/04/17 06:39 AM
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At the same time, the one staying home gets to spend all that time at home being provided for. They don't have a boss, or employee deadlines, they don't have to fill out self-evaluations or have to answer to a supervisor. They aren't exposed to industrial hazards. Are you working too hard and starting to feel an ergo issue develop? Take a break! Watch some TV. They don't have to friggin' commute, even. It's a cushy job. But oh no, not good enough, they need money afterward, too. The very definit…
/r/MensRights06/04/17 06:38 AM
1

Common law marriage. That's still gonna fuck ya.
/r/MensRights06/04/17 06:25 AM
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And what are we being careful of, exactly? Rationality? If you don't like someone, or are even actively angry at them, and the government gives you an opportunity to extract money from that person, what does a reasonable individual do? That's right, extract money.
/r/MensRights06/04/17 06:20 AM
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Wouldn't want to disrupt the gravy train. A lot of money is riding on the continuation of the CS racket.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/17 01:40 AM
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"Daddy, where do babies come from?" "Well son, when a woman loves a man's paycheck very much..."
/r/TheRedPill31/03/17 09:07 PM
7

Serious though - what are the downsides to getting a prenup? It won't protect you from cs or alimony payments. I suspect it also won't protect you from loss of assets acquired after getting married.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/17 02:17 AM
1

Are YOU honestly arguing that the view on the role of women in society is unchanged from hundreds of years ago? BTW, nice "and" strawman. Because that sounds like far more of a stretch Far less of a stretch than saying that every man who uses"cuck" views women as property.
/r/MensRights28/03/17 12:36 AM
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I hope you enjoy your "victory" as much as divorced women enjoy their "shared" assets. Could you be any more of a ding-dong? Sheesh.
/r/MensRights27/03/17 07:37 PM
1

I'm talking about house(s), car(s), furniture, And what exactly did she do to assist with that purchase? Get a job? If so, she has an argument. If not, then obviously she had no role in that. entitled It is indeed an entitled attitude. if she is an officer or director of the corporation, which is certainly not an "edge case". Do you think there are a lot of officers and directors of corporations running around? Of those, do all of them work at the same company as their spouse? Of those, do you a…
/r/MensRights27/03/17 06:29 PM
2

but most of the time if you're a good partner you'll eventually find a good partner You sound very naive and ignorant of how divorce actually works in the US. You're welcome to your delusions if they help you sleep at night.
/r/MensRights27/03/17 06:23 PM
1

Worst case scenario you commit suicide or die in jail. More likely you never see your kids again or live life in poverty, or spend part of your life in prison. Those look like rather terrible outcomes. It's stupid to at least not recognize why lots of men are opting out of this bad deal. And best case scenario the M&M completes your life. Nothing about the legal institution of marriage is a pre-requisite for this...depending on how awful the laws are in your jurisdiction.
/r/MensRights27/03/17 04:39 PM
1

If she didn't do anything to actually assist in the making of money - and no, staying home to watch the kids sure as shit doesn't count, because that happens whether you're Sam the surgeon or Jim the janitor - then she certainly doesn't deserve a share. Of course, if she did do something to help, then she'd be a consultant or an actual employee of the same company. And in that case she's already been paid. And that's zero justification for double-dipping payment. There may be some edge case exce…
/r/MensRights27/03/17 04:04 PM
1

Yeah, about that bowl of M&Ms where 10% are full of poison...you know, if you grab a handful, sometimes there isn't any ricin in there. Sometimes it's just arsenic, or even just laxative. So go ahead and grab a handful!
/r/MensRights27/03/17 12:18 PM
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"Shared" assets. Funny how this reasoning oozed out of the divorce industry whose various parasites' livelihoods just so happen to depend on this sort of viewpint.
/r/MensRights27/03/17 12:06 PM
1

Incorrect. With my interpretation, it's implied that a lack of stupidity etc would get him his own women to sleep with. Another interpretation you're missing is mutual mate guarding. In this one, yes, it's at least partially his responsibility to ensure his wife does not stray, just like it is also her responsibility to ensure he does not. You seem to be hunting very hard for ways to make the woman out to be a victim. It is odd how essential it is to the narrative of some feminists that women be…
/r/MensRights27/03/17 11:51 AM
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Another thing to consider, related to the advent of the majority of women in the workplace: traffic. Double the number of people forced to be on the on the road in single-occupant vehicles and commutes that would have been tolerable turn to shit. And bad commutes are one of the top reasons people hate their jobs, and they have a host a secondary negative effects. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jmaureenhenderson/2016/05/21/do-you-really-hate-your-job-or-just-your-commute/#2c7ac76a5a64
/r/MensRights26/03/17 03:19 PM
2

His wife's actions It's not his wife's actions, it's his own. The definition would have to change to something other than "the husband of an adulterer" for it to escape the implication of control when used as an insult. Nonsense. Poor choices or oblivious stupidity of the man also work quite well.
/r/MensRights25/03/17 02:24 AM
1

the meanings of words change, but generally not overnight. The meanings of words can change as rapidly as norms and mores change. even in your interpretation, the man's supposed weakness is in the metaphor is only perceived as such because of what his wife is doing Yes, but it is still not an issue of "the man isn't adequately controlling the woman, his property". The definition of cuckold would have to change on a fundamental level The sense that women are to be controlled by men has itself cha…
/r/MensRights25/03/17 02:10 AM
1

we know from historical records that it is the original intent. That may be, but original intent doesn't dictate current use. Awesome had the connotation of terrifying. Now it just means "good" or "neat". I mean, cuckold wouldn't be an insult unless the person using it thought that it reflected inadequacy on behalf of the husband Indeed, but again this could easily be "inadequacy" in the form of stupidity for selecting a lifestyle where the cuckold doesn't benefit (as seen by the epithet hurler)…
/r/MensRights25/03/17 01:36 AM
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the man should be shamed for failing to keep his woman in line. That's one possibility, but not the only one. It could also easily derive from the man being a fool and letting someone close to him trick him, with additional shame since the subject is as important as a sexual and romantic partner. We also have to keep in mind that we're talking about modern individuals with modern sensibilities using the terms in a modern context. That usually doesn't involve "a man needs to control his woman" as…
/r/MensRights24/03/17 11:47 PM
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"Control"? I've always seen the context of the insult as being controlled, by both men and women (albeit from a position of somewhat limited exposure). After all, the sexual fetish from which the insult derives it's name typically involves a man being at least nominally submissive to a woman, but the woman also being at least nominally submissive to another man (and the "cuck" being at least somewhat submissive to him as well).
/r/MensRights24/03/17 12:34 PM
1

high stakes bluffing It's not a bluff, it's meant to illustrate the severity of what she is requesting. "I wouldn't ask you to put yourself in that sort of vulnerable position, so why are you asking me to do the equivalent?"
/r/MensRights05/02/17 03:55 AM
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And that's the point where you ask her for all her credit card numbers, ssn, mother's maiden name the login and password to ALL her online accounts, all necessary information to open new lines of credit solely in her name, cash out all of her bank accounts as a cashier's check and give it to you "to hold on to", take out huge life insurance policies & designate you as sole beneficiary and finally sign over power of attorney to you. "What's that you say? You don't want to? Guess you don't trust m…
/r/MensRights04/02/17 03:49 PM
3

That's quite the stretch. Really. Are you familiar with how child support works, e.g. imputed income, minimum payments, balance inflation, non-dischargability, revocation of licenses and debtors prison? is there a case of someone having to pay child support even though he could prove she lied about birth control? Every case. Lying about birth control is zero defense to paying CS, even if you didn't engage in procreative sex! http://www.nbcnews.com/id/7024930/ns/health-sexual_health/t/sperm-gift-…
/r/MensRights12/01/17 08:03 PM
2

Child support payments as currently structured are the equivalent of forced labor, enforced through the law, which can easily result in punishments up to and including imprisonment for non-payment. Assault is assault, even if you don't do the violence yourself, AND even if the government does the assaulting for you. Of course, the other thing to consider is that burglary is still a serious crime that can carry a felony conviction, even though it lacks the violence component of robbery.
/r/MensRights12/01/17 07:01 PM
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The intent of child support is to pay bills related to the home environment to ensure a stable home for them. Ha! The intent of child support is to make a shit ton of money for state governments. Why do you think they invest so much money and state authority into ensuring that the money gets paid by the father, and then invest exactly $0 into ensuring that money is actually spent as intended? The whole concept of child support is fraudulent and maledictory. "Child support is so a dad will suppor…
/r/MensRights04/01/17 09:19 AM
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Ok man, but if you are admitting that you ignored her for days on end, what is she supposed to think? That he was busy with work? It seems unreasonable to expect someone to cater to your desire for idle attention when they're swamped with obligations.
/r/TheRedPill21/10/16 03:52 PM
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And since YOU didn't ask for special compensation...(doi)
/r/MensRights01/10/16 02:35 AM
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I don't see a point where I asked for special compensation for them Good thing I didn't say you did, isn't it.
/r/MensRights30/09/16 10:46 PM
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It was right before I accused you specifically of requesting special compensation.
/r/MensRights30/09/16 07:07 PM
1

So they're acceptable because they happen to everyone? Nope. But it's not evidence of oppression or differential treatment requiring special compensation.
/r/MensRights30/09/16 05:57 PM
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And enshrined in law, no less. And incredibly difficult to fight. This isn't some holdover cultural artifact expressed by deviants, this is government persecution as a matter of policy. "It's not 'persecution', don't be hyperbolic!" It's not? OK. Send me 25-50% of your paycheck every month (and then volunteer yourself for imprisonment if you miss a few payments).
/r/MensRights27/09/16 09:25 PM
2

Heywood Jablomey
/r/MensRights16/09/16 06:22 PM
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Absolutely. This is one of the ways they encourage women to file claims in court and keep the family court parasites in business. Here's how Oregon does it: https://www.stephensmargolin.com/blog/2008/03/divorce-myths-my-ex-will-have-to-pay-for-my-attorney-fees/ Notice the very first factor the courts consider "The conduct of the parties in the transactions or occurrences that gave rise to the litigation, including any conduct of a party that was reckless, willful, malicious, in bad faith or ille…
/r/TheRedPill21/08/16 12:46 PM
1

Child support here is fair unless you are low income worker. It starts at 5k, usually its about 8k for middle class income. Is that per month? And per kid? And what's a typical middle class yearly income? Lower class? What happens if you decide you just don't feel like paying? "You know what, my hobby expenses this month require all of my paycheck, the ex can just do without." What happens to that guy? If you have weekends visit you dont have to have here special kids room, special clothes, acti…
/r/TheRedPill22/07/16 08:00 PM
1

Not really. System is still biased to give full custody to women, so unless she shows up at court with needle in her arm she will propably get full custody and you weekends every other week if she want. Depends of judge though. Oh, so you're definitely getting raped on visitation, forced into being a part time visitor in your kid's life (probably subject to her whims, too). But even with the paltry standard issue visitation, you are still supporting your kids. You still have to have a room for t…
/r/TheRedPill22/07/16 02:56 PM
1

Do they spend time with you? Yes? Then you already provide for your kids. That "child" support is just reskinned alimony.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/16 02:22 PM
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and child support is fixed by law to percentages of actual income. So you're still getting raped. Just not as badly, maybe.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/16 12:37 PM
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Heh, 'k.
/r/MensRights09/07/16 06:33 AM
1

No, it applies to anyone who understands the argument.
/r/MensRights09/07/16 04:28 AM
1

Just because you want to dismiss my argument does not invalidate it. That's right. My reasoning for why your argument is invalid is what invalidates it.
/r/MensRights09/07/16 02:11 AM
2

Irrelevant to the issue at hand. It is still a pleasurable act for them.
/r/MensRights09/07/16 12:43 AM
2

What I'M ACTUALLY saying is on the moral compass the acts rate similarly. Yes, I'm aware of your premise, no need to repeat yourself. Again, my response to that is that the women who get fucked get something out of it. The men who are scammed into doing work do not, apart from a loss of time and sense of exploitation. Ergo, the two acts do not rate similarly on a moral compass.
/r/MensRights08/07/16 11:22 PM
2

Abd im not sure how you got that from what i posted. Doing something like installing AC or waxing a floor is work. Fucking is fun, whether you're a man or a woman. If you're saying that a woman exploiting a man into doing work is like a man having sex with multiple women, you're saying that it's a job, hassle or burden for a woman to have sex with a man. That doesn't make sense, especially when a woman can quite easily have multiple orgasms in the time span in which a man has one. Now, maybe som…
/r/MensRights08/07/16 10:27 PM
1

It's really not any different than the dude who fucks hundreds of girls if you think about it. Are you saying that women don't derive pleasure from sex?
/r/MensRights08/07/16 04:33 PM
2

I've got something new: my new hobby. Find the Tinder scammers and absolutely fuck six ways sideways whatever job they want you to do. "Oops! Looks like your air conditioner just dropped out the window." "You're saying you didn't want me to scrape the snow off your car with a snow shovel?" "You wax floors with laundry detergent, right? No? Oops. Oh well, time to fuck."
/r/MensRights08/07/16 04:25 PM
8

Aren't we better than that? Obviously. A minor trick doesn't even compare to legalized extortion or imprisoning the innocent.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/16 04:38 PM
25

Sound's like fraud to me. Compared to "child" support debtors prisons, income imputation and rape shield laws? Shrug-worthy.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/16 04:07 PM
1

this movement sees a false allegation behind every corner. Funny you should mention histrionics...
/r/MensRights15/05/16 08:25 PM
1

In reality, it's unlikely that you'll ever be mistreated in such a way. Given the nature of family court, I'm skeptical that's true.
/r/MensRights15/05/16 08:14 PM
23

Women are handed enormous privilege, and still have the gall to complain. Par for the fucking course.
/r/MensRights11/05/16 11:22 AM
7

So it's all supposedly "for the children", huh? And that's why there are laws in Connecticut stipulating that CS must go toward care of the children, right? And this law provides harsh punishments if these funds are not properly allocated, and effectively free legal representation for men making complaints, yes? No? Funny how "think of the children"comes into play to protect female privilege, isn't it.
/r/MensRights11/05/16 11:12 AM
10

Ah yes, the "imputed income" trap. "Child" support is what happens when feminists and their lickspittle legislators read about the 13th Amendment and think to themselves "Whoa, slavery is illegal? That's a problem that needs to be solved!"
/r/MensRights11/05/16 11:06 AM
1

Of course not, it is clearly different because [insert feminist special pleading here].
/r/MensRights10/05/16 11:27 AM
2

It doesn't read like satire.
/r/MensRights28/04/16 01:15 PM
8

I just wish I could turn these feminists into men and then run them through the family court grinder. Then they could judge for themselves if MRAs had valid points or not...assuming they didn't jump off the top floor of the nearest high rise first, of course.
/r/MensRights23/04/16 02:40 AM
1

Because he's right.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 06:11 PM
2

If you cut child support down to zero, he's still not responsible for the kids. This doesn't suddenly force a man to go out and get a job. It just means the mom has to get off her fat ass and bring in some scratch.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 06:06 PM
1

Why should shacking up with some guy lower CS/alimony? Having a live-in room mate to split rent and utilities means her individual expenditure goes down. She needs less money to survive. Of course, CS should simply be eliminated. It is a completely stupid, corrupt, and morally bankrupt system and there is no compelling reason to maintain this onerous, sexist, explotative farce.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 06:04 PM
2

Exactly! And, of course, the supposed reason for the NCP to pay CS is because he needs to "support his kids". The reality is that he is already supporting his kids. You don't get a discount on your mortgage just because you only see your kids on weekends.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 06:00 PM
3

I'd rather some of my money went to the kids too They only way to ensure that is to control and spend the money yourself. Money she gets from CS payments can be spent however she sees fit: manicures, vacations for her and her new boyfriend, new sports car payments, alcohol, cigarettes, adult toys, tithings, whatever. Family courts don't care how the money is spent and you have no recourse if you do. The kids will also tie her to me. Wrong. Family courts do not care about father's visitation. Sur…
/r/TheRedPill17/04/16 09:11 PM
25

Her body, her choice? Her responsibility.
/r/MensRights11/04/16 01:38 AM
50

Imagine if a man had eleven convictions for kidnapping, rape and aggravated assault before he was sentenced to just a bit over a year in prison.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 04:15 PM
1

I would humbly remind you of the FRA.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/16 02:01 AM
2

That would no doubt be the most satisfying headline, but probably not in line with whatever the Times' style guideline recommends. The hardcopy headline was "Cleared After Jury Verdict, Expelled UW Student Wants His Life Back". It was basically the article presented by OP.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 06:02 PM
3

They did, actually (in print, at least). Total vindication, front page of the Seattle daily whatever-it's-called.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 02:38 PM
2

Oh well, serves him right. Not right enough, unfortunately. But if we're lucky, this nematode will kill himself drunk driving daddy's Camaro before his scumbag civil suit gets off the ground. Washington state really needs to add civil immunity to 9A.16.110.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 02:11 PM
3

Children are not weapons, Family court polices (and pocketbooks) strongly disagree.
/r/MensRights03/02/16 06:19 PM
1

Where our viewpoints differ is that I think that there's a point of inebriation (incapacitation) where verbal consent is invalid Really? So, is there a point of inebriation where if someone agrees to go for a car cruise around town with me, it's kidnapping?
/r/MensRights03/02/16 06:13 PM
29

OMG, putting people in prison because they couldn't pay a debt is hilarious! And if you like that you'll love this imam in a sharia court. He does an amazing improv routine every time he gets one of those cases where a young girl is accused of apostasy. He does this face right before he sentences her to be raped and executed, you gotta see it. It's a real knee slapper.
/r/MensRights15/01/16 05:35 PM
4

" after all, misandry is mostly an internet joke, right?" Oh, how nice it would be to slap a CS order - payable to me, of course - on every dumbfuck who thinks this. I'd be a millionaire by the end of the month.
/r/MensRights15/01/16 04:58 PM
9

Or a ham-fisted attempt at a false flag maneuver.
/r/TheRedPill11/01/16 02:01 PM
8

Crazy and practicality aren't mutually exclusive. True, but they aren't inescapably correlated, either. Frankly, as a guy, if you're not protecting your assets properly even in marriage, you're a fool. Indeed, IF you happen to be lucky enough to know this sort of thing to begin with. The dangers of family court are not widely disseminated knowledge. There is, after all, a reason a plot point from The Matrix is referenced in relation to this "red pill" information.
/r/MensRights04/01/16 04:58 PM
26

I still don't know how guys manage to get married to fucking nut cases like in OP's picture. Because it's not about crazy. What's on the line in a divorce? Kids and money (and other, lesser things as well, like validation and revenge). Child custody = kids, obviously, and whoever gets custody gets the money (property and child support payments). What's the magic bullet guaranteed path to win in a modern US divorce court? Lie about abuse. And thanks to the Duluth model, the bar is super low. If i…
/r/MensRights04/01/16 04:29 PM
7

Come on guys, she was only defending herself from future abuse. At least that's what the Duluth model says. Classic Duluth Model defensive wounds!
/r/MensRights01/01/16 04:15 AM
1

Why is mens emotional labor not being compensated? I can't wait! Five bucks for every well-crafted letter written on PoF or OkCupid, at least. Ten for every chick flick and episode of Friends or Sex in the City I'm forced to watch. Twenty when she dominates the conversation. One hundred every time I have to talk her crazy ass off the wall. I'll be fucking rich!
/r/MensRights26/12/15 07:14 AM
2

Because that is currently the path of least resistance. But as we see with drugs, having a lack of a legit market does not mean that a product becomes unavailable.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 07:53 PM
2

Here's hoping that becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy for you, darling. Hope she enjoys cats. There's gonna be a lot of 'em.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 03:19 PM
2

You don't really understand the point I'm trying my make here. Oh, she understands it. She just doesn't give a shit. She's a feminist, you see. Ideology before reality, feelz > reals and so forth.
/r/MensRights17/12/15 11:45 PM
2

Where? In Candyland? One might think this was taking place in the real world where you don't get a discount on your rent or utilities just because you only see your kids 4 days a month. Their mom loves them too - And yet she'll still thrust her kids into poverty just to satisfy whatever frivolous reason she had for leaving. but love doesn't put meat in their stomachs Then it's time for mom to give up custody. Or reconsider whatever frivolous reason she had for leaving in the first place. and bra…
/r/MensRights17/12/15 03:12 AM
2

Anybody who thinks that contributing to their children's maintainence As I've pointed out many times before, it's NOT maintenance for the children, it's money for the mom. The father is already doing his fair share if he has any visitation or custody whatsoever. And if mom is too lazy and poor to take care of the kids, WTF is she doing with custody of them in the first place? This kind of legislation is aimed at people who can't afford decent lawyers,[...]as it serves neither client's interests.…
/r/MensRights16/12/15 10:56 PM
8

You know what would really simplify the program? Eliminate it. There is no reason for the "housewife" career choice to warrant this sort of special treatment. If you get "quit" your job, you go find another one, just like anyone else on any other career track. If you can't find employment in your chosen field, you take a temporary job and make do until a better one pops up. Easy fuckin' peasy...except for that female privilege thing.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 08:05 PM
2

temporary support orders maintain the father as a stakeholder in the welfare of the family, decrease the chances of the mom moving away with the kids, Ah yes, of course the man is forced to pay the blackmail/ransom/extortion money and live with reduced income to ensure that he isn't alienated from his children. Eliminating any sort of post-separation payment and making it illegal to bring children with you if you decide to move more than 15 miles away would solve this problem a lot more neatly a…
/r/MensRights16/12/15 08:00 PM
7

Lol it'd be pretty hard to get accused of rape if you aren't with women. Not necessarily true. The Innocence Project has exculpated a non-trivial number of cases based purely on DNA evidence. Iirc, it's something like 25% of all their success stories. Fallibility of memory 'n whatnot.
/r/TheRedPill04/12/15 01:30 AM
4

I did indeed.
/r/MensRights02/12/15 08:31 PM
15

kids who may end up with a broken family Who do you think gave us Duluth model/ primary aggressor/ emergency restraining order/ family court/child support/debtors prison father alienation?
/r/MensRights02/12/15 06:25 PM
2

Even a trained individual can be taken down by a stupidly lucky shot True, there are no guarantees in a fight. And even a non-fatal injury can have long-lasting detrimental effects, brain damage, paralysis, disfigurement, life long pain, loss of range of motion, psychological repercussions, whatevs. But I think the real reason to avoid SDGU if at all possible in the western world is to avoid the legal repercussions. Trials are expensive and stressful, and the results are not guaranteed. Even a w…
/r/TheRedPill02/12/15 04:01 PM
1

Didn't you already say that feminist dance therapy doesn't exist as a major? How does a major that doesn't exist make more money than a major that does exist? Maybe we're just assuming that someone with a shit degree will run a scam operation, like hanging out a shingle claiming to be a pet psychic. Is that where this has gone? If so, sure, scam artists can make a lot of money.
/r/MensRights02/12/15 01:00 AM
1

That might make a STEM degree worth less, but that won't make it worth less than an identity politics pseudo-science degree.
/r/MensRights01/12/15 10:38 PM
1

Exactly how bizarro world does a job market have to be to pay an identity politics pseudo-science major more than someone with, say, a useful, STEM body of knowledge?
/r/MensRights01/12/15 05:36 AM
1

Firstly the obvious that there don't appear to be any majors in feminist dance therapy. Perhaps you've heard of something called hyperbole.
/r/MensRights30/11/15 05:43 PM
-1

It is, unfortunately, a common attitude. Forget about the actual victim - the guy falsely accused of rape who might lose his job, be shunned by friends and family, get divorced (and then divorce raped) or even go to prison and get raped for real - and concentrate on hypothetical female victims who might be harmed by this false accusation. It's a bit of a final "fuck you" to men to show then just how disposable they are.
/r/MensRights30/11/15 03:10 PM
18

If I'm siding with the rapist, she's siding with the fascist police state...which is also a rapist.
/r/MensRights30/11/15 02:50 PM
2

Do you think divorce rape is a concept commonly known in American culture, and more importantly commonly acknowledged? There's a reason the name of this body of knowledge directly references a very specific plot point from The Matrix, after all.
/r/TheRedPill24/11/15 09:02 PM
6

The adult in charge of Girl Scouts in these girls' area could very easily organize more rugged activities for the girls that are interested. Maybe, if she's not a typical woman. More likely, she is. What the GS need to do is not invade the Boyscouts, but get better leadership for their own organization.
/r/TheRedPill23/11/15 05:13 PM
2

Not to mention, the father already supports his kids, and just as much as the mother does. A father doesn't, for example, get a break on his mortgage just because he only sees his kids four days out of the month, after all.
/r/MensRights23/11/15 05:49 AM
1

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/g2eme/feminists_tell_you_that_the_solution_to_mens/
/r/MensRights16/11/15 04:41 PM
7

Whatever they want to say about men being monsters applies equally well to women. In addition to all the things that men can do that women can too - rape, murder, domestic violence (and that women are far more likely to get away with) - women can also make false rape accusations, make false DV accusations, alienate men from their kids, steal a man's money through alimony (with impunity!), steal his property through divorce court (with impunity!) and steal his money through child support (with ac…
/r/MensRights15/11/15 10:03 PM
3

Ok, it's outrageous that they didn't call rape, rape. Hey now, we don't know all the details. What if she had a beer before she forced her kidnapping victims to have unwanted sex? That would mean the kidnapper was incapable of consent. This would automatically shift the guilt of the crime onto the man in the act.
/r/MensRights14/11/15 03:01 AM
0

Then I guess you are OK with women secretly conceiving children, as long as their sex partner never finds out about the baby? Of course I'm not. Know why? You're using a false analogy. Even if you could create some fantasy world where women and government would agree to eliminate not just child support debt slavery, or the child support extortion racket, but any sort of obligate child support, you still have the possibility of inobligate child support (not to mention monkey-wrenching whatever re…
/r/MensRights14/11/15 01:34 AM
1

Putting on your seatbelt is something that you do to your own body. Recording sex is something you do to no one's body. Every single previous sex partner of yours could have recorded every single sex act that you've been involved in, and you would have no idea it happened. And as you've already acknowledged, the outcome of a thing that does not affect you in any way is not ethically troubling. Car accidents are waaaaay more common than false accusations. Are they? It's really easy to make them, …
/r/MensRights13/11/15 09:18 PM
1

Please don't treat people this way. Do you put on your seat belt when you drive? You do?! OMG, how can you be so thoughtless? Please don't treat people "that way". You know, that way you treat people where you do something to protect yourself that doesn't harm them in the least, and they won't even notice. I mean, if you feel you just have to wear a seatbelt then driving just isn't right for you at this time in your life, because you can totally just predict when car accidents and false accusati…
/r/MensRights13/11/15 07:23 PM
4

Not to mention risking assault/murder.
/r/TheRedPill07/11/15 12:22 AM
23

I was thinking about stabbing my exwife to death. It would save quite a bit on CS payments, don'tchaknow. Also, I'll be sure to say she shoved me, so my stabbing will naturally be considered self defense. The courts will of course completely embarass themselves in their rush give me the same pussy pass special consideration, right?
/r/MensRights05/11/15 12:03 AM
3

I don't know, the billboard author strikes me as a really sorry guy.
/r/MensRights26/10/15 04:28 PM
7

All hail Misandry Jesus The Nicest of Nice Guys. He will help you move and won't even be mad when you blow Him off that weekend, amen.
/r/MensRights26/10/15 04:27 PM
1

Irrelevant. The relationship is over. No response here, I note. Yeah, I'm sure that's the vast majority of alimony cases. Cheating is quite common. Have you read the Kinsey research? Do you think wives who leave don't take money and property with them? False accusations are a dime a dozen in family court. But even if it is only 10% of the cases, it can nonetheless happen. Would you still happily hand over money in a case like that? Additionally, would you be happy to give him money knowing he wa…
/r/MensRights23/10/15 02:47 PM
2

Would anyone at the ACLU like some of my male privilege? All it will cost you is 25% of your take home pay (medical expenses, another mere 15%). Along with this awesome benefit, there's also the male advantage of "brief" stay in prison if you find yourself unable to pay those debts. "What do I get for such a paltry sum?" I'm sure some of these advocates will ask. The real benefit here is to be turned into a visitor in your childrens' lives to the tune of four days a month (or less!) So awesome. …
/r/MensRights23/10/15 02:00 PM
1

But you make those choices in the framework of the relationship. Irrelevant. The relationship is over. If I took my boyfriend out of the job market, and then we broke up, I'd try to spot him until he got on his feet Really? Even if he cheated on you? Even if he stole a bunch of your money and property as he left? Even if he alienated you from your children and accused you in family court of being a rapist and a child molester? Very generous.
/r/MensRights23/10/15 01:43 PM
3

For the bureaucratic part, that's obviously going to be the single woman. Raising a kid, advantage to the gay couple, obviously.
/r/MensRights23/10/15 03:53 AM
1

Who do you all think would have an easier time adopting? A gay couple or a single female? The bureaucratic part, or the part where you actually raise a kid?
/r/MensRights22/10/15 10:09 PM
10

"But feminism fights for their rights, too!" said the feminist, paying the most awesome lip service imaginable.
/r/MensRights22/10/15 10:07 PM
10

"Personally, I have no patience to learn about a perspective that has no evidence, attacks women and demonizes the queer community.” I think this sentence is more accurate if it stops after the 7th word.
/r/MensRights22/10/15 05:15 PM
1

Deleuth model and think it means and instant life sentence without any shadow of a doubt. Duluth model. And you're attacking a straw man. It's not a guarantee, but it is a gamble. And the stakes are rather high. I have called the cops on several women "Several"? What's going on, do you pick up exclusively at parole hearings? before on domestic violence and in none of the cases was I immediately considered the aggressor. It's not hard to beat the odds a few times, and duke are lucky enough to win…
/r/MensRights21/10/15 12:51 AM
0

Jesus fucking christ you guys act like he's incapable of defending himself! Against the cops she'll call if he doesn't do as she says? You betcher ass he's defenseless. You are too, in case you're wondering.
/r/MensRights20/10/15 09:26 PM
6

If only the black students were going to be admonished for cursing, or only racist language directed at whites were to be punished, would you have a problem with it?
/r/MensRights19/10/15 06:48 PM
16

Don't forget the nice, button-up brown shirt.
/r/MensRights19/10/15 06:36 PM
2

But "dirty jokes" leaves her wide open for the Adria Richards "dongle joke" counterpoint.
/r/MensRights19/10/15 05:31 AM
1

I know, the nerve of these MRAs. What are they thinking, that women are autonomous beings with volition who can make choices for themselves and act on them? These mra assholes apparently do not understand just how victim-tastic and WEAK women are. Some people, I swear.
/r/MensRights16/10/15 12:39 AM
3

Mine was about $60k (that figure excludes child support payments).
/r/MensRights12/10/15 10:01 PM
3

I like the comments about MRAs and how mere association with MRA-ness makes his claims super duper double dog unreliable. Because there's nothing more suspicious than a man who wants equality, right?
/r/MensRights12/10/15 06:32 PM
2

Can you name mattress girls supposed rapist? https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=who+did+sulkowicz+accuse%3F Paul Nungesser. Would you recognize him on the street? That's the least of his worries. Do you think HR departments, potential girlfriends, neighbors or anyone else looking into his past won't be able to google his name like I just did?
/r/MensRights12/10/15 04:34 PM
2

It's not the same because one is rape and one is lying about someone under oath to hurt them. They are different things. Riiiight. And mob bosses who order their soldiers to murder their rivals shouldn't be tried for murder, either. After all, they didn't do anything even remotely close to pointing a gun at someone and pulling the trigger. All they did was say some words.
/r/MensRights12/10/15 04:24 PM
106

This is of course darkly hilarious, because politics is one of the most common methods used in domestic abuse of men, e.g. debtors prison, child support wage slavery, primary aggressor laws, rape shield laws, Duluth Model, etc.
/r/MensRights08/10/15 02:29 PM
7

"Of course, these days if Charlie had fought for Bella he probably could have taken her from Renee..." Yeah, right.
/r/MensRights06/10/15 08:40 PM
1

Child support is liberally awarded to mothers, sparingly to fathers, and frequently in amounts that the paying parent can’t actually afford. This works in conjunction with child custody, and while custody is awarded (allegedly) based on the children’s needs, child support is calculated based on the payer’s income. This has resulted in some rich men paying tens of thousands of dollars a month in child support payments (often in addition to alimony). It is a public secret that child support money …
/r/MensRights06/10/15 03:18 AM
1

You always have the worst recommendations for solving men's issues, and I just wonder if you are actually just being passive-aggressive or if you really want to help men. Bringing up murder-suicide in this context just seems like you are actually trying to attack men, not help them. She's a feminist, so not a lot of surprise there, really.
/r/MensRights04/10/15 01:44 PM
5

Ah, of course. Spelling flames. Your surrender is duly noted.
/r/MensRights02/10/15 04:16 AM
15

He just destroyed your argument, and that's you're response? "Serious adult", lol.
/r/MensRights02/10/15 12:28 AM
7

Since you're confused about the reality of the situation, it wouldn't be very wise to heed what you say.
/r/MensRights02/10/15 12:22 AM
5

She didn't even actually kill her husband Actually, she did. She just used a person as her murder weapon instead of an object.
/r/MensRights30/09/15 03:12 PM
3

It's common knowledge It's common knowledge that women never rape men and men are never DV victims. Pleading to "common knowledge" is, IOW, dogshit. Cite a source or GTFO.
/r/MensRights29/09/15 05:41 PM
3

Are...are you serious? I am quite serious. You have not posted a source. Has it not occurred to you that people here might not be willing to just take your word for it that the phenomena you describe is as common as you claim it is, or that it's common manifestations match the behavior seen in this incident? Has it not occurred to you that this might be based on poor research, and the meme of it is perpetuated for political reasons? Google signs of an abusive relationship. Sorry, that's not how …
/r/MensRights29/09/15 05:32 PM
2

I was saying that her posting that go social media isn't a trump card. Yes, a specific claim, not a general one. And, more importantly, an unsourced claim.
/r/MensRights29/09/15 05:09 PM
0

How so? Sigh. You are specifically claiming that rape victims should NOT be believed when they shower glowing praise on their rapists. Generally speaking, I am claiming that we should either "believe her" or "not believe her", not "selectively believe her".
/r/MensRights29/09/15 03:41 PM
2

Up to you. One might think it was up to rationality or logic...if one's position was rational or logical. My statement is more general. Um, your position is more specific, actually.
/r/MensRights29/09/15 03:20 PM
3

Hate to break it to you, but false accusations have been around a long time, and men have always been more than willing to believe women, regardless of evidence to the contrary.
/r/MensRights29/09/15 03:14 PM
7

Except when we're not supposed to believe, of course. "But how do we know when that is?" you might ask. It's simple: Whatever makes the man guilty.
/r/MensRights29/09/15 12:27 PM
5

Damn, this is confusing. Am I supposed to "believe her", or not believe her?
/r/MensRights29/09/15 12:16 PM
1

Ah yes, because courts have never deliberately violated anyone's rights anywhere in the US under any circumstances at any time.
/r/MensRights28/09/15 07:52 PM
1

Why are you assuming this guy is broke and can't afford these things. If he could afford them, he would. Or do you think for some reason OP wants to be a convicted felon with rebated rights and no visitation? My assumptions that a man who has a 6 year old has the means to handle his legal defense. You sound like a guy who has no idea what being poor or family court is like and no idea how the latter readily facilitates the former. Money seems to be the only avenue you have to argue with, so just…
/r/MensRights28/09/15 07:07 PM
1

allow yourself Silly OP, how could he forget? He'll just wiggle his nose and make the retainer fee appear out of thin air (while he's in the CJ system, no less). lose my child Of course, if he doesn't pay his mandatory CS bribe, he can go to jail by way of the cs debtors prison system.
/r/MensRights28/09/15 06:29 PM
1

And when you say its small town justice, that's what the appeals are for in our judicial system. Sweet, you going to give him the $5-20k (or more) to make that happen?
/r/MensRights28/09/15 05:08 PM
2

"We had to destroy the village to save the village!"
/r/MensRights28/09/15 05:00 PM
3

A prenup offers zero protection against child support.
/r/MensRights23/09/15 04:53 PM
9

I mean, it's not like feminists blame men for every single problem in the world. If only that was all it was. You know how you stand a good chance to become indigent and alienated from your kids after a divorce, or will probably be arrested if your gf stabs you and you're foolish enough to call the cops? Tender years doctrine, NOW opposition to shared parenting, Duluth Model, primary aggressor laws...thank a goddamned feminist for that.
/r/MensRights21/09/15 12:40 AM
3

Ah, one token example. But nothing about FRA or actual female perpetration of serious crimes.
/r/MensRights17/09/15 03:52 PM
1

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with hyperbole. Do you think no feminist has ever minimized it?
/r/MensRights17/09/15 03:50 PM
2

Notice how they completely ignore female perpetrators? Behold, feminists helping rape culture and domestic violence, all while supporting public policy that fosters and supports false accusations. I know, it's a real shock. : /
/r/MensRights17/09/15 02:39 PM
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"Look out, Bat Fem, it's a man walking down the street! He might invite us to a party! What do we do?" "I know how to handle this nefarious ne'er-do-well. Quick, GirlWoman, to the hugbox!"
/r/MensRights17/09/15 02:36 PM
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Here's an interesting article on Kanin's work (and Lisak's). http://www.datagoneodd.com/blog/2015/01/25/how-to-lie-and-mislead-with-rape-statistics-part-1/
/r/MensRights16/09/15 08:26 PM
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Masturbation aids which can pass the Turing test could be VERY dangerous to normal emotional development, Compared to the divorce rape industry and male disposability? Doesn't even register on the scale.
/r/MensRights15/09/15 01:01 PM
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Too bad we can't do a body swap between her and Dave Foley. Load her up with some man portioned CS debt, toss her in debtors prison with the 'bangers and pedos for six months at a time over the years, then make sure, no matter what, she never gets to see her kids again. How important will the arms-over-shoulders issue be for her after that, do you think?
/r/MensRights13/09/15 09:27 PM
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Wrong answer, evil man-monster! Everything can be sexism if we squint at it long enough.
/r/MensRights13/09/15 09:06 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/RemindMeBot/comments/24duzp/remindmebot_info/
/r/MensRights10/09/15 04:41 PM
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Oh, totally. And the same reasoning applies to rape, too. You don't want rapists to think "whoa, I could go to prison for five years for this, better not leave a witness." AND, you also have the serous prevalence of false rape accusations, so in the event if a bad conviction, you don't want to actually punish the innocent with long jail sentences. That's why rapists should also only get a "stern talking to".
/r/MensRights10/09/15 02:43 PM
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And it's stupid to ever jack off in a jar if it's not for a licensed sperm bank Riiight, because the particulars of legal liability regarding sperm donation and child support (and the punitive nature of child support itself) is such a widely covered and understood topic among the general populace... Get real. The reason we know about the hazards of this is because this is special interest knowledge. Nonetheless, gotta love that victim-blaming and male hyper-obligation.
/r/MensRights07/09/15 06:10 PM
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This is ignorant, illiterate PC stupidity at its best. Let me guess, "niggardly" is totes racist, too.
/r/MensRights04/09/15 08:16 PM
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Better yet, get the permission slip from the original doctor and then have your wife sign in nice, female cursive script "Fuck You, Sexist Shit Heads".
/r/MensRights04/09/15 08:11 PM
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You didn't really answer my question. A message about rape and consent that it only wants to direct at men? I think it has inadvertently answered your question: the man will be the guilty party, of course.
/r/MensRights02/09/15 06:24 PM
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Anything less than an enthusiastic, completely sober, "YES!" to sex is not consent. Do you honestly not realize how STUPID and DANGEROUS this idea is? Or are you one of those types who is sociopathically OK with putting innocent people in prison?
/r/MensRights02/09/15 06:16 PM
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I personally do not see how some people can have that particular position and not kill themselves from the guilt of trying to get people who are clearly guilty to be declared innocent. Probably the same way prosecutors are typically sociopathically indifferent when it comes to imprisoning innocent people or destroying lives over trivialities (for victimless crimes or punishments seriously out of proportion).
/r/MensRights01/09/15 06:25 PM
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It could also very well be that the attorney knows what a piece of shit she is, but she's insisting that she's not guilty and didn't do anything wrong anyway. So he's going to take the most absolutely foolish route possible in defending her (while still adhering to ethical requirements) because he doesn't want her to win AND he wants to outrage the judge and jury and essentially show them what an utter piece of shit she is. Really, you don't need to worry about the defense attorney or what he do…
/r/MensRights01/09/15 06:22 PM
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Honestly, anyone choosing to waste their money on a course like this Of course, the university may (more or less) require taking this course as part of the mandatory set of classes that all universities seem to require of undergraduates.
/r/MensRights31/08/15 04:33 PM
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if you don't fuck her someone else is going to That's not the lesson to take away from this. The guy was apparently more than willing to put the blocks to her, she was just repulsed by him. She didn't cheat because she wasn't getting fucked, she cheated because she wasn't getting fucked by someone that interested her. So what's the lesson? Don't have kids. Don't get married.
/r/TheRedPill27/08/15 10:22 PM
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I expect you to not be disappointed with that expectation.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 11:20 PM
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Most women don't "need" child support, but extra money is extra money.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 06:27 PM
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No, but the government hasn't found a way to emotionally justify scamming 500 billion dollars out of men every year over horse sales.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 06:09 PM
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Only if you expect feminists to be consistent.
/r/TheRedPill25/08/15 06:02 PM
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I will stop answering to you here Oh look, another lie. Color me unsurprised. Yes, because men can receive CS for their kids A tiny minority who receive far less money than women in similar circumstances, and when women don't pay, the women receive far lighter punishments (and almost never debtors prison). But hey, keep telling yourself that makes everything about this sexist, wage slavery system acceptable. But you are a shame for the men cause Oh, look. Shaming arguments. Chalk another feminis…
/r/MensRights25/08/15 04:00 PM
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Do you think that mindset would permit any other solution proposed in this thread?
/r/MensRights25/08/15 03:47 PM
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I never defended any of this, "Collecting child support isn't wrong if the money is really used for the child.". - an exact quote by you, defending all of this. I literally listed the problems of the system Lie. it's not an insult to call you sexist it's a fact. Lie. lol, me a feminist? Yep. 1) Inordinately concerned with sexism - but only that directed against women 2) False accusations (of sexism in this case, but there's also the strong probability of false accusations of abuse by former boyf…
/r/MensRights25/08/15 03:19 PM
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Really the only solution to all this is to require affirmative consent to parenthood. I think if you removed the financial incentive of alimony and especially child support, unilateral pregnancies like this (and the much more common "accidentally-on-purpose" pregnancy) would completely disappear.
/r/MensRights25/08/15 03:11 PM
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I don't ignore the implications. And then your post goes on to completely ignore the implications of a complete lack of oversight on how CS is spent. Typical. You want to call me sexist, completely confused about what constitutes sexim (I note you couldn't explain what exactly in my post was sexist, you just brainlessly reasserted your original claim), while YOU sit there on your entitled female ass DEFENDING a system that ENSLAVES men. To top it off, all this wallowing in female privilege is do…
/r/MensRights25/08/15 02:55 PM
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With regards to the examples, I went looking in response to this request: And how many examples of MRAs campaigning to maintain enslavement of women did you find? And so, without explicit mention, I don't want to assume that individuals are part of any group with whom they may or may not want to be associated. "Sure, I hate jews and blacks because I think they're racially inferior. And I totally love Adolf Hitler, national socialism, and German foreign and domestic policy 1939-1945...but I'm not…
/r/MensRights24/08/15 11:23 PM
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I already pointed out the lack of verification. And then completely ignored the implication of that. This doesn't change what it was intended for Oh, really? So intent is what matters? Well, I'll just swing this baseball bat at your head as hard as I can. Don't worry, my intent is merely to kill that mosquito on your forehead. We cool, homie? Oh, you're not cool with that? You don't want to have your skull caved in just to kill a bug, regardless of intentions? But that would mean that intentions…
/r/MensRights24/08/15 10:48 PM
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Child support isn't for the ex-partner. It's for the kids. Sure, the standard CS apologia refrain. Yawn. If it's "for the kids" then why is there no control on how the money is spent, and no legal recourse if the money is not spent on the kids? I never shamed anyone pointing out the flaws in the system. That's exactly what you did. All I did was disagree with you, and you started throwing "you're a sexist pig" accusations.
/r/MensRights24/08/15 09:21 PM
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the MRA actions you requested. These were the examples of actions YOU requested, that I provided. Not necessarily. It strains credulity that these people would support the idea rights for men in one area, but not most others.
/r/MensRights24/08/15 09:21 PM
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Oh, sorry, my mistake. I thought you were talking about the MRM having morphed, not feminism.
/r/MensRights24/08/15 09:09 PM
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The link you sent was more about what women have done wrong Really? The post was quite specific in pointing out that it was FEMINISTS responsible for fighting against mens rights, not "women". Interesting that you turn 'feminist' into 'women'. Be honest, you then took that to mean misogyny, didn't you. he link about parental equality wasn't directly linked to MRAs Ah, fathers rights advocates aren't MRAs. OK.
/r/MensRights24/08/15 09:03 PM
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It has morphed very far from its intention In what way? Can you provide actual examples of this?
/r/MensRights24/08/15 08:50 PM
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You realize that I joined this thread because I agreed that the view that the rape of a man as less than a rape of a woman was harmful, right? Congratulations, you meet the basic minimum requirement to not be a complete scumbag. That gives you a pass on being an ignorant twat on other subjects, even when the information is given to you directly?
/r/MensRights24/08/15 08:30 PM
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It's difficult to find evidence of MRAs doing any actual work Really? I just gave you a page full of links not even three posts ago. I guess you won't read sources even when they're spoonfed. You couldn't find anything on the multiple MRA campaigns to bring equality to family courts? None of the work on mens DV shelters was available to you? None of the work on mens only spaces on college campuses? You couldn't find anything on the various mens rights symposiums (all of them monkeywrenched by fe…
/r/MensRights24/08/15 08:26 PM
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This is what is known as a "double standard".
/r/MensRights24/08/15 07:36 PM
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Do you have to use the same tactics to win your rights as you claim the "feminists" are? No, and pointing out the reality of feminist advocacy is nowhere near actually campaigning for the abrogation of human rights for men. Your argument here is very, very stupid. Have tangible goals, fight for those What the fuck exactly do you think we do, you moron? Christ, just shut up. You are completely uneducated on this topic.
/r/MensRights24/08/15 07:34 PM
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Collecting child support isn't wrong if the money is really used for the child. And there you have it. So much for "Don't worry about me, I'm not one of the crazy ones." The fact of the matter is, child support is a ridiculous farce. The two parents are no longer together, neither one is responsible for the financial well-being of the other. And, of course, the idea that there is some imbalance in child care costs that absoultely needs to be corrected is equally farcical. Both parents have to pa…
/r/MensRights24/08/15 07:30 PM
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If you refuse to stoop to the level of those attacking you Oh, and can you point to one instance where MRAs have campaigned to maintain debt-enslavement of women to men through the family court system, or advocated for legal enshrinement of male privilege over females? I'll wait right here for you to provide an example. Or are you so foolish as to think that pointing out that feminists actively campaign against human rights is equivalent to actively campaigning against human rights?
/r/MensRights24/08/15 07:24 PM
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eventually the flawed logic of those working against you will become obvious. Will it? It appears to have totally escaped your attention.
/r/MensRights24/08/15 07:10 PM
2

If you want change, find a solution and push for it. We do. Guess who's always there, eagerly waiting to fuck things up and hinder progress for equality for men? It ain't the Rotarians.
/r/MensRights24/08/15 06:18 PM
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Get real, most women aren't assholes. And yet, there are A LOT of women collecting child support. Maybe not all women are the type to take advantage of the system, but it does appear to be quite common. Even if we assume this behavior is rare (which it isn't) there is no way to tell who is and who isn't "an asshole" until it's too late. That's why your recommendation is completely irresponsible. Nor men are assholes just because I was with 3 abusive guys. That's not the issue, doofus, but hey, n…
/r/MensRights24/08/15 06:15 PM
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I'm not bothering you Google your USA examples because I honestly don't think that any well-supported argument would change the views on this sub, "I could totally destroy your argument, but, like, I know it won't change your mind and I've got better things to do." Lol, ok. Pushing hatred of feminism and feminists will only hurt your agenda, Stupid strawman horseshit, typical of the NAFALT feminst. Our agenda of equality for men is directly opposed by feminists. Ignoring this and pretending it i…
/r/MensRights24/08/15 05:05 PM
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Encouraging men to have kids is even worse! At least with marriage there's no license revocation or debtors prison. "Just find a non-crazy woman" jesus fucking christ. While we're at it, should we invest money with that nice guy from the internet who just also happens to be a Nigerian prince? It's safe, just find a non-psycho 409 millionaire.
/r/MensRights24/08/15 04:58 PM
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Yes it's crazy. Crazy means acting irrationally. What is irrational about gaining the most advantage over someone that means nothing to you, you no longer like, or even hate? I would never do that kind of things even if I was able to do it. Words are cheap. It's easy to rationalize behavior that is beneficial to yourself, or when you feel wronged and want to be vindictive. "I'd never do that to a normal guy, but my ex was really, honestly crazy. Besides, he cheated on me, so he deserves what he …
/r/MensRights24/08/15 04:47 PM
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That's why I added "based on this quote alone." That, of course, is not the whole picture. Maybe you shouldn't try to educate people when you know less than they do. I was just hoping to temper the hatred that the thread was showing towards feminism because of one person's misguided idea about rape. Except it's not just this one incident, and it's not just one person, but there you go again. You haven't even read the sidebar. I guess some people need to be spoonfed information. https://www.reddi…
/r/MensRights24/08/15 04:39 PM
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Translation: NAFALT NAFALT NAFALT! So if she's not a "legit" feminist but a crazy fringe feminist universally despised by all the "real" feminists, why is she in so tight with the cdc and their sex abuse research? Where are all the "real" feminists protesting the inclusion of this "fake" feminist in such an important government position?
/r/MensRights24/08/15 02:33 PM
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Just find non-crazy women. Is it "crazy" to take advantage of privileges handed to you on a silver platter by social convention and the legal system where custody of your kids (and not incidentally, a shitton of money and revenge on an ex) are concerned? No, it is not. So don't try to say that men are at fault in situations like this. At least, don't try it if you want to consider yourself an MRA.
/r/MensRights24/08/15 02:06 PM
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How can anybody have sympathy for this guy? The same way people have sympathy for the French Resistance.
/r/MensRights24/08/15 01:59 PM
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I'm only arguing if you're trying to justify a CS system.
/r/MensRights16/08/15 03:15 PM
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You seem personally offended by the number. It is consistantly used to justify 1) the existence of child support 2) high payments thereof 3) insanely punitive responses to non payment I have to wonder why a reasonable person who hopefully kinda likes concepts such as the 13th Amendment wouldn't be offended by such numbers. But who knows, perhaps you really like government sponsored wage slavery and the process of turning middle class divorced fathers indigent. Please let me know if I've assumed …
/r/MensRights16/08/15 02:47 PM
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Quiet, child.
/r/MensRights16/08/15 10:36 AM
1

That's a bit simplified, don't you think?
/r/MensRights16/08/15 10:00 AM
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Yep. Oh, and "See how much money it takes to raise a child? That's why we need to triple our budget to deal with this dangerous shortfall. Think of the children!" says the government agency.
/r/MensRights16/08/15 05:44 AM
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Maybe. The number seems ludicrously high.
/r/MensRights16/08/15 05:36 AM
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According to Google, the average child cost about $245k up to the age of 18. I'd love to see the particulars of how that number was generated. If someone is claiming that's supposedly the bare ass minimum to keep a single child alive, there are a lot of poor families with living children who should ostensibly be grieving their dead babies.
/r/MensRights16/08/15 04:27 AM
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Wow, stunning riposte. Do you have a real, grownup argument to make, or are boneheaded rhetorical slobberings going to be the order of the day?
/r/MensRights16/08/15 04:12 AM
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But it's their kids. What part of "child support does not go to the kids" do you not understand? Who's gonna pay for them if not their parents? The parents will pay for the kids, of course. Mom will maintain her home, and dad will maintain his. Mom pays when they're with mom, and dad pays when they're with dad. Nothing in this arrangement requires any transfer of money from dad to mom.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 10:43 PM
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I'm not sure we do. You're right, we don't. Each parent should be responsible for their own bills, regardless of how much time a child might spend at their household. Anything else is GROSSLY unfair to the parent that spends less time with the child (unless the parent with more time is paying money as compensation for robbing them of time with their children, of course).
/r/MensRights15/08/15 10:32 PM
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Chid support should be eliminated. They last thing the family court system needs is a gigantic financial incentive to alienate fathers.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 10:22 PM
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The government forces people under a child support order to work, or they will put that person in prison. They simply do not have a choice not to. But idk, what do YOU call it when the government engages in involuntary forced servitude?
/r/MensRights15/08/15 10:19 PM
4

So what?
/r/MensRights15/08/15 10:14 PM
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If my dad was a multi millionaire and didn't spoil me at least a bit, I'd be a bit crossed. That, of course, has nothing to do with child support payments. This hypothetical rich father could do all sorts of monetary things for you without it being necessary to enslave him financially.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 10:11 PM
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It's probably the occasional trad-con pronouncement + confirmation bias fueling the /u/Dangerfield0610 silliness, assuming it's sincere.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 04:40 PM
1

I asked my grillfriend out Mmm, bbq.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 06:12 PM
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Make no mistake homosexuals who lurk around here Shhhh. Adults are talking.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 05:58 PM
1

It's an analogy. Have you seen one of those before?
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 06:22 PM
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On the contrary, I speak from experience on the issue of family court disparity. Worrying about marriage but having kids is like worrying about the carcinogenicity of coffee while you're smoking 8 packs a day and working with crocidolite asbestos.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 05:35 PM
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First off, if you want children The one, absolute, surest path to family court rape-enslavement if she decides you're old news and she needs to "just find herself" some new tingles, IOW.
/r/TheRedPill11/08/15 02:38 PM
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Didn't even bother to read the side bar, did you?
/r/MensRights31/07/15 01:35 PM
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Were it true that all or even most women act in a divorce as we are lead to believe they do by members of this sub There's that strawman again.
/r/MensRights24/07/15 10:30 PM
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Similar to straw, but sturdier. I don't think so. It's a ridiculous exaggeration, especially so since you recognize the need for divorce law reform. But anytime I discuss my own divorce where I came out pretty well unscathed (didnt get falsely accused, didnt lose all my money, etc) I usually do get downvoted and told I'm this exception to the rule. Are you offering this as a counter argument to those who say that divorce laws need to be fixed? Even if you're not stating that explicitly, I'm sure…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 10:21 PM
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but lets not pretend that it is always a man's fate t You do realize this is a strawman argument, yes?
/r/MensRights24/07/15 09:56 PM
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^ example of attitude of shitty quality ^ But no, feel free to abandon the rights of others because you didn't get exactly the right reaction of adoration from EVERYONE subscribed to this forum.
/r/MensRights24/07/15 09:42 PM
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I might. I know exactly how you feel. A guy on the internet said something mean to me once, he may have been black. Now I want to repeal the 13th Amendment. Yeeehaw!
/r/MensRights24/07/15 09:15 PM
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You're basically confirming feminist beliefs. When we do things like point out Kanin's research (41% FRA, undercounting), feminists feel that this confirms their belief that we live in a misogynist, rape-loving society. Merely pointing out that a statement confirms feminist belief is not of itself a sufficient argument against that statement. Attack her beliefs, not her body. The author has claimed in the most obnoxious manner possible that she would very much like to prostitute herself; the aut…
/r/MensRights24/07/15 02:51 AM
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Assholes get the asshole response, and that cockroach/author is 100% certified asshole.
/r/MensRights24/07/15 01:46 AM
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