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CMVPhokus1983/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 03:16 AM
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DiscussionPhokus1983/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 05:12 PM
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OTOH, there would be so many women, it wouldn't even be worth it to hire a lawyer to take him to court lol.
/r/TheRedPill13/01/16 05:47 PM
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ok thanks!
/r/MensRights23/06/15 02:41 PM
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I'm a 23 year old transgender guy. This means I was born a girl, and later after much therapy and doctor confirmation, have transitioned to male. What do you mean by 'doctor confirmation'?
/r/MensRights23/06/15 02:37 PM
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They have, but white women took most of those AA spots when it was first instituted. It wasn't really meant for white women. That's the point. The biggest beneficiary of AA is white women.
/r/MensRights15/05/15 08:20 PM
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I disagree with this, when affirmative action was instituted back in the late 60's, it was meant for blacks, but it was white women who benefited from it.
/r/MensRights15/05/15 05:14 PM
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I know who peter molyneux is, i've watched his videos, he's an idiot as you will see below: So called cage homes house about 0.7 percent of Hong Kong's population Yet, Nordic countries, which have massively higher taxation, don't have that problem. The fact that one of the freest countries in the world has that many people living in cage homes is pathetic. Interesting how you completely ignore that the poor in Hong Kong make FAR less money than the poor virtually everywhere in the western world.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 02:27 PM
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If you have to spend money on experiences every time to make you happy, you are going to go broke. I spent a few thousand going to the bahamas a few years ago. Yes, i felt happy while i was there, yes i was probably happy for a week, maybe even two after i got back home, but that wears off. Essentially you are advocating people adopt a heroin model of maintaining happiness. Self actualization is what creates long lasting, permanent happiness (which is no surprise that women are so unhappy these …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 01:46 PM
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Take my study in the post you're responding to where men are now happier than women. Add in the fact that men are doing worse financially than women: http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/34vwhw/do_you_believe_the_economic_marketplace_is/cqyttjf Explain to me how your post makes any sense whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 01:23 PM
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Women don't like to live in shoe boxes. They like to fill their closets with them instead. According to Forbes, this won't make them as happy as they would be spending it on experiences. As soon as women figure this out, and I doubt it will be long, I already see it happening, women will be happier overall. So essentially, you are saying women need 'experiences' like heroin addicts need shots of heroin every now and then to be happy. How vapid are you. The fact is, women aren't going back. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 01:20 PM
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It's interesting that you have conflated women with feminists It's because women value materialism. Feminists have an academic 'argument' as to why women need MORE of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 01:18 PM
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When you look at male unemployement/homelessness/lower education levels, also this: Female median income: http://2378nh2nfow32gm3mb25krmuyy.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/FemaleMedianIncome.png vs. Male median income http://2378nh2nfow32gm3mb25krmuyy.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/MaleMedianIncome.png Men are doing worse economically, yet now happier than women. The overwhelming majority of men are NOT ceo's or execs (how many of those guys even exist?). T…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 05:37 AM
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No, you have to be low intelligence to read that verbatim as a step by step guide to get dick. Here, put out a sign on your front yard that says 'free pussy', then spread your legs. Now do your hamsterization and disagree with the idea that you won't have a flood of men forming a line around your block in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 04:32 AM
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Of course, there are severe consequences for women with respect to female sexual liberation and financial independence: http://www.nber.org/papers/w14969 By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past 35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well-being indicate that women's happiness has declined both absolutely and relative to men. The paradox of women's declining relative well-being is found across various datasets, measures of subjectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 04:06 AM
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No, i'm pretty sure if you posted a craigslist article with you address offering free pussy, you'd have to permanently relocate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 04:05 AM
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Stop trying to be cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 03:56 AM
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Really? I dare you to post a craigslist article offering free pussy to any man who responds then. Oh wait, what's that, you're repulsed at the thought? That's why men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 03:45 AM
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I personally think that a lot of women value kind and moral men though . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 03:36 AM
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You're a fucking genius
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 03:34 AM
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Being a stud is hard, being a slut is easy (just spread your legs), that's why there's a 'double standard'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 03:29 AM
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Women regulated other women (aka 'slut shaming'), that's why marriage worked for as long as it did. It falls apart when there's a coordination problem between women (aka feminism). You have it completely backwards. In the old days, men traded their commitment for sex and women traded sex for commitment. Women had to regulate each other so a sizeable portion of women don't cheat the system and just sell their pussy for pennies on the dollar. When that happens, men have no incentive to pay with co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 03:25 AM
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Again, women make more money than before. Explain why they are far less happy TODAY. Here is the median male income tracking GDP by year: http://2378nh2nfow32gm3mb25krmuyy.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/MaleMedianIncome.png Here is the female version: http://2378nh2nfow32gm3mb25krmuyy.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/FemaleMedianIncome.png Female incomes have exploded and actually don't diverge from GDP gains like male ones do. Again, if money buys happiness…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 03:12 AM
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I make good money. It doesn't buy me happiness. What makes me happy is me improving myself every day with weight lifting, meditation, developing new skills, doing hobbies doing volunteer work, fucking random women etc. I have enough money to buy an 800k house and a bmw 5 series with cash, but i don't because i know it's not going to make me happy. I purposely live an austere lifestyle. Outside of my clothes, i don't really spend much on anything. And i know this because my parents raised me up i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 02:59 AM
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I'm married. But I have my own career and I'm raising my daughter to be independent, as well. I didn't have any trouble doing both. I doubt she will. If you are raising your daughter to be 'independent', she will have a far harder time trying to get married and be 'financially independent' at the same time as each generation of men are more aware of how raw a deal marriage is for them. That's the thing though, you equate having a big job to 'financial security' when there is no such requirement.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 02:48 AM
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Yes, that's why women today are far less happy than their counterparts 40 years ago. You're hamstering. Are you a spinster or something? There's no good explanation why you are in full denial mode right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 02:32 AM
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Speaking as a liberal Terper, this is where conservative/libertarian members of TRP gets it wrong. Free Markets AND authoritarian societies (think kings and their concubines) result in an unequal distribution of pussy AND wealth. The ones where everyone thrives (think nordic countries) and are happiest are the ones where there is redistribution and regulation but still a functioning marketplace. Nordic countries have far lower GINI coefficients, a society where a parent's offspring can far more …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 02:23 AM
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Oh, i'm not saying it will, i'm just saying you're completely wrong about women having a preference to being a spinster. Women expire far earlier than men do. Even a pathetic man who's overweight, has nothing going for him, has quite a while to turn it around while even once beautiful women become fairly worthless to society after a certain point. When all you have is your job and material goods (which, i shouldn't have to explain to you, won't get you happiness, for the overwhelming majority of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 02:13 AM
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And yet Lean In is outselling Spinster by tens of thousands of copies. Yes, because Sheryl Sandberg is famous. Kate Bolick is a relatively nobody and still able #628 in ALL of amazon.com's books. Hilariously, she's #1 in #1 in Books > Politics & Social Sciences > Women's Studies > Feminist Theory BTW, this is what feminism has wrought. Women are actually LESS happy than they were in the 70's. In fact, men have surpassed women in happiness, this study shows that: http://www.nber.org/papers/w14969…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 01:52 AM
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My favorite part of the article, btw: In July, I traveled to Walsh’s home, a handsome 19th-century Victorian hidden behind tall hedges in a quiet corner of Brookline, Massachusetts, to sit in on one of these informal roundtables. I came of age with hookup culture, but not of it, having continued through college my high-school habit of serial long-term relationships, and I wanted to hear from the front lines. What would these sexual buccaneers be like? Bold and provocative? Worn-out and embittere…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 12:49 AM
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And yet women still aren't saying, "Choose men over your career." They still aren't telling the next generation of women to correct this "mistake." The bestselling nonfiction titles all feature Mindy Kahling, Tina Fey, Sheryl Sandberg, Amy Poehler and are all about getting ahead in the world. If such a large number of women are wringing their hands about this "issue," why is Lean In on the bestseller list as opposed to How to Give Up Your Career and Focus on Marriage and Family? Women don't actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/15 12:35 AM
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Say huh? You know less than Jon Snow. http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/young-men-and-women-differ-on-the-importance-of-a-successful-marriage/ The share of young men (ages 18 to 34) who say that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things in their lives has dropped six percentage points since 1997, from 35% to 29%. For women, the opposite effect occurred, as the share voicing this opinion rose from 28% to 37%. ... young women today value marriage MORE than their predec…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 08:53 PM
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Yeah, they just complain the men are 'arseholes' (aka, happier than they are). Jamie, a 30-year-old Sydney barrister, thinks so: ''Women labour under the impression they can have it all. They can have the career, this carefree lifestyle and then, at the snap of their fingers, because they are so fabulous, find a man. But if they wait until their 30s they're competing with women who are much younger and in various ways more attractive.'' They also don't explicitly say they'd do the same thing all…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 08:44 PM
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Can't do better, how, in terms of looks, or in terms of not being 'abusive', because women who use their sexuality as leverage for 'things' like commitment are too common to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 08:30 PM
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No, because i'm not sure i'd really call that 'abuse' first of all, and it's common for most women. Who's settling? Redpillers? It's just knowing how to defend yourself against women who make demands of you in exchange for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 08:23 PM
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Up to you to figure out why that is. Because they have poor time preference discounting. Just like the person who didn't study hard while they were young and now works as a janitor and now regrets it fucked up while they were younger, so too did the woman who focused entirely on her career and 'playing the field' and is now on anti-depressants and has a house full of cats to fill the void in her life. Women are finding out that, unlike them, men don't need material goods to be happy. Even though…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 08:20 PM
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As long as we're not talking about batshit crazy abusive, a man who knows the REAL ins and outs of relationship dynamics can neutralize those types of women. It's all about who has leverage. A 30 year old can try hard to withhold sex from an alpha until he commits, but the alpha has all the leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 08:11 PM
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I wouldn't say it's shit. I'd say it's reality. The only interesting thing about it is, women have finally realized that they can't have it it all.... but they're not ditching their education and careers in favor of marriage, are they? Nope. In fact, more women now graduate from college than men, at least in the US. They've seen all the Cosmo articles, read all the Jezebel pieces, checked all the blogs. They know it's harder to land a good man at 30+ and yet they don't seem to prioritize relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 08:07 PM
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Why not? These women can walk away too. It's just that when the women get a bit older, men have leverage. And that's completely their own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 08:01 PM
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I don't see the problem with that, unless deception is involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 07:54 PM
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Your fervent denial leads me to believe that you are, kinda like all those in the closet republicans who are vehemently anti-gay everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 07:44 PM
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Why? It's not like bob is beating these women into submission. He's just using his power to walk away. I think that's perfectly fair game.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 07:42 PM
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What, exactly, does he do? He died in the last few days. He was CEO of SurveyMonkey and was independently wealthy from some prior startups he did. But her outlook about marriage isn't going to be much different than that of a female lawyer or doctor, or makreting manager, etc. She's reinforcing what women are ALREADY doing with her terrible advice. That's why this shit is happening: http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 07:41 PM
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Because those women will drop their panties for 'chad', while they wear a chastity belt for a while for 'bob' until he commits. Cindy never considered bob while she was in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 07:36 PM
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Right. This is why TRP exists, to teach men about this imbalance. Actually, i think most men intuitively know this in their subconscious, which is why marriage rates are plummeting. It's not like TRP even makes this shit up, we just tell men what women already know: http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/772391-when-looking-for-a-life-partner-my-advice-to-women “When looking for a life partner, my advice to women is date all of them: the bad boys, the cool boys, the commitment-phobic boys, the crazy bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 07:20 PM
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All Cindy has established is that if you're a guy she's attracted to it only takes 3 units to get her to have sex. But if you're not a guy she's attracted to you can put in 3, 30, or 300 units and never get any. Wrong, when cindy starts nearing 30, she'll accept those 300 units from bob because 'chad' no longer cares about wasting his units on cindy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 06:56 PM
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i found the problem. no wonder you guys think "all women are like that" if you only go for women who are like that Most women are like that. Even when women are disadvantaged in a situation where there are far more women then men, they still act picky: http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2yipqi/from_the_new_york_times_women_are_suffering/ Jayne Dallas, a senior studying advertising who was seated across the table, grumbled that the population of male undergraduates was even smaller …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 06:53 PM
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That's great fanfiction! Here's reality: http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html Naomi sat in the back row of Melbourne's Grattan Institute, about to watch her fiance give a lecture. She was joined by three unfamiliar women - all attractive, well groomed, in their mid-30s. From their whispered chat, she quickly realised they weren't there to hear about politics and economics but to meet her eligible man. Naomi explains: ''He's 36 years old and is defini…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 06:50 PM
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Did you read the study? Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 12:19 PM
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We further found that the more sexual partners a woman had had before marriage, the less happy she reported her marriage to be. This association was not statistically significant for men. Did you even read the damn study? It's ABOUT happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 03:51 AM
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What do you mean it has 'nothing' to do with what you said? A person's history of sexual partners isn't really relevant. Reality says otherwise: http://i.imgur.com/DnMjpl3.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 03:38 AM
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Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, UVA, a typical lefty campus with batshit crazy feminists (see: the rolling stone debacle) produced a 'biased' study that made women look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 03:36 AM
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What this study does suggest is that there may be a small but statistically significant decrease in marital quality as measured by the 4-item dyadic adjustment scale associated with increasing partner count, and that this association may be moderated by gender. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=http://img.washingtonpost.com/news/rampage/wp-content/uploads/sites/27/2014/08/Screen-Shot-2014-08-26-at-9.39.40-AM-e1409066252786.png&w=1484 Let me guess, these other charts (ignore the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 03:02 AM
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Yeah, denver, the place that legalized weed, such a restrictive place. Why the fuck do we need another country? We live in america. This study (and others) points to the fact that sluts are awful LTR's. On a practical matter, that's all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 02:55 AM
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studies somewhere buried inside them Nigga, you serious? So this blog post, for example: http://socialpathology.blogspot.com.tr/2010/09/statistical-adjustments-to-promiscuity.html It was a headache for you to find the two studies it linked to? http://s3.amazonaws.com/thf_media/2003/pdf/Bookofcharts.pdf http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_23/sr23_022.pdf It's hard to take you seriously at all. clicks link Damn that was a hard day's work right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 02:50 AM
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1) Virginia isn't homogenous, NoVa is quite liberal 2) I don't see where it says the participants were all from virginia: Data for the analyses in this report come from the Relationship Development Study at the University of Denver, which was initially funded by the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development. In 2007 and 2008, a calling center used a targeted-list sampling strategy to recruit 1,294 participants who were unmarried at the time, but in a relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 02:44 AM
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Click the studies IN the blog posts. Stop being disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 02:37 AM
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Oh, btw, lots of studies back up the study i posted http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2har17/why_does_trp_disparage_sluts/ckqzn57
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 02:14 AM
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The image from the washington post refers to the study i posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 02:13 AM
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It's the best study we have so far. When i first posted this study, i've been countered with garbage studies from BP. A particular mod of this subreddit countered with a study with a sample size of 50 (so 25 couples) from some eastern european country and pretended our studies were equal. The sample size is superior to any other study i've seen so far. Finally, keep in mind that the coefficients represent average effects. A beta coefficient of -.06 means that if the average marital quality score…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 02:00 AM
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But that still shows that high count women are awful and a high count man are screwed if they marry a high count woman. Where's the equity in that? And don't pretend that women don't lie and mismatches occur either. That's a double tragedy for a man who kept himself relatively chaste marrying a slut. Men and Women ARE different, that's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 01:08 AM
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Yes it is relevant, stop spreading lies http://nationalmarriageproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NMP-BeforeIDoReport-Final.pdf But that’s not most people. In our sample, only 23 percent of the individuals who got married over the course of the study had had sex solely with the person they married. That minority of men and women reported higher marital quality than those who had had sex with other partners prior to marriage. We further found that the more sexual partners a woman had had befo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 12:46 AM
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No http://nationalmarriageproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NMP-BeforeIDoReport-Final.pdf But that’s not most people. In our sample, only 23 percent of the individuals who got married over the course of the study had had sex solely with the person they married. That minority of men and women reported higher marital quality than those who had had sex with other partners prior to marriage. We further found that the more sexual partners a woman had had before marriage, the less happy she repor…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 12:46 AM
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But we back up 'men and women are different' with science though http://nationalmarriageproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NMP-BeforeIDoReport-Final.pdf But that’s not most people. In our sample, only 23 percent of the individuals who got married over the course of the study had had sex solely with the person they married. That minority of men and women reported higher marital quality than those who had had sex with other partners prior to marriage. We further found that the more sexual part…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 12:45 AM
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It's backed by science http://nationalmarriageproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NMP-BeforeIDoReport-Final.pdf But that’s not most people. In our sample, only 23 percent of the individuals who got married over the course of the study had had sex solely with the person they married. That minority of men and women reported higher marital quality than those who had had sex with other partners prior to marriage. We further found that the more sexual partners a woman had had before marriage, the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 12:44 AM
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It's called being an alpha widow. And it's backed up by science http://nationalmarriageproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NMP-BeforeIDoReport-Final.pdf But that’s not most people. In our sample, only 23 percent of the individuals who got married over the course of the study had had sex solely with the person they married. That minority of men and women reported higher marital quality than those who had had sex with other partners prior to marriage. We further found that the more sexual partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 12:44 AM
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Read this http://nationalmarriageproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NMP-BeforeIDoReport-Final.pdf But that’s not most people. In our sample, only 23 percent of the individuals who got married over the course of the study had had sex solely with the person they married. That minority of men and women reported higher marital quality than those who had had sex with other partners prior to marriage. We further found that the more sexual partners a woman had had before marriage, the less happy sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 12:43 AM
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No http://nationalmarriageproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NMP-BeforeIDoReport-Final.pdf But that’s not most people. In our sample, only 23 percent of the individuals who got married over the course of the study had had sex solely with the person they married. That minority of men and women reported higher marital quality than those who had had sex with other partners prior to marriage. We further found that the more sexual partners a woman had had before marriage, the less happy she repor…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 12:43 AM
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Riiiiiiiiiight http://nationalmarriageproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NMP-BeforeIDoReport-Final.pdf But that’s not most people. In our sample, only 23 percent of the individuals who got married over the course of the study had had sex solely with the person they married. That minority of men and women reported higher marital quality than those who had had sex with other partners prior to marriage. We further found that the more sexual partners a woman had had before marriage, the less hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 12:43 AM
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Sure thing http://nationalmarriageproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NMP-BeforeIDoReport-Final.pdf But that’s not most people. In our sample, only 23 percent of the individuals who got married over the course of the study had had sex solely with the person they married. That minority of men and women reported higher marital quality than those who had had sex with other partners prior to marriage. We further found that the more sexual partners a woman had had before marriage, the less happy s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 12:42 AM
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I would say it's rational http://nationalmarriageproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NMP-BeforeIDoReport-Final.pdf But that’s not most people. In our sample, only 23 percent of the individuals who got married over the course of the study had had sex solely with the person they married. That minority of men and women reported higher marital quality than those who had had sex with other partners prior to marriage. We further found that the more sexual partners a woman had had before marriage, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 12:42 AM
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Stop pretending high partner counts affect both genders equally. http://nationalmarriageproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NMP-BeforeIDoReport-Final.pdf But that’s not most people. In our sample, only 23 percent of the individuals who got married over the course of the study had had sex solely with the person they married. That minority of men and women reported higher marital quality than those who had had sex with other partners prior to marriage. We further found that the more sexual part…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/15 12:41 AM
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When it comes to partner count? They sure as hell do. Slut shaming comes mostly from other women btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/15 04:39 PM
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Dear incels Please sit down, shut up, and take your castor oil.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 11:21 PM
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Non-nice people: People who are desperately lonely who voices their loneliness instead of shutting up about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 05:13 PM
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Guess you didn't read the article. In a situation where there are 60 girls for every 40 guys: Jayne Dallas, a senior studying advertising who was seated across the table, grumbled that the population of male undergraduates was even smaller when you looked at it as a dating pool. “Out of that 40 percent, there are maybe 20 percent that we would consider, and out of those 20, 10 have girlfriends, so all the girls are fighting over that other 10 percent,” she said. It's the women who are the ones t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 04:35 PM
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Get real, men who whine about being lonely are labelled 'entitled' by feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 04:19 PM
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This isn't true for men. The thing is, average looking women aren't hooking up with average looking men, they're punching above their weight class when they're young. http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2yipqi/from_the_new_york_times_women_are_suffering/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 04:18 PM
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Which is what due process is, STOP TYPING
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 04:34 PM
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Seriously, stop typing. You don't know more than Harvard law professors. Literally NOBODY said anything about 'constitutional rights'. This is entirely an argument about morality/fairness/justice. STOP TYPING.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 04:30 PM
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OK, when when I mentioned that it's not a "due process issue," I was referring specifically to the 14th amendment: And that's idiotic because it IS a due process issue. You simply didn't know the broad definition of 'due process'. Just admit it. Guess why Harvard Law Professors are decrying a lack of due process. Here, let me highlight the one VERY IMPORTANT specific word in the definition: a course of formal proceedings (as judicial proceedings) carried out regularly, fairly, and in accordance …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 04:14 PM
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This isn't really a due process issue. It's a students rights issue, and it's absolutely not limited to rape. Nearly all proceedings on campus do not have a presumption of innocence. Using the same standard of evidence for rape or assault is not particularly unusual or unprecedented, considering nearly all other campus incidents are settled in the same manor. Neither the legal definition of due process or Harvard law agrees with you: http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/33uwfr/many_p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 03:54 PM
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a course of formal proceedings (as judicial proceedings) carried out regularly, fairly, and in accordance with established rules and principles called also procedural due process I was the one who FIRST brought up due process, not you. And you countered my COMPLETELY FACTUAL definition of due process with your ignorant counter, not knowing that due process is not simply a 'constitutional requirement' in a government judicial system. Stop typing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 03:52 PM
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but in my personal experience most women who sleep around like that seem to have issues. So.... most college aged women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 02:34 AM
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Why do you view it as a zero sum game? You're implying that gains for women are losses for men. Feminist takes a different view, namely that gains for women are gains for men. What's the justification for your assumption? As i pointed out in the other comment, feminists are destroying due process/presumption of innocence of men on campus. Also, thanks to feminists, they implemented the Duluth model for domestic violence where men are presumed to be the aggressor always so if a man dials 911 to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 02:23 AM
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oh fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 02:20 AM
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You continually display that you have zero idea what you're talking about. 28 Harvard law professors (which you think you are more knowledgeable than) signed a letter decrying Harvard getting rid of due process in sexual assault cases at harvard: http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/10/14/rethink-harvard-sexual-harassment-policy/HFDDiZN7nU2UwuUuWMnqbM/story.html Harvard has adopted procedures for deciding cases of alleged sexual misconduct which lack the most basic elements of fairness and du…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 02:19 AM
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Was it patriarchy or batshit crazy feminists who removed due process/presumption of innocence for men in college campus? I want to see how deep this rabbit hole of crazy from you goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 01:23 AM
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Why do you view it as a zero sum game? You're implying that gains for women are losses for men. Feminist takes a different view, namely that gains for women are gains for men. What's the justification for your assumption? hahahahah, yeah, bullshit. How is, for example, destroying due process/presumption of innocence for men on college campuses by feminists a GAIN for men? GTFO.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 01:21 AM
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He's a blooper
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 01:15 AM
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lol, and you're a blue piller, that's hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 01:15 AM
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Men and women both pair bond Women do, but not sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/15 01:14 AM
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That's what i'm saying! Just check your own post history and TBP's desperate attempt to feel better about TRP running roughshod over dumb feminist ideals. If TRP wasn't effective and only had a few hundred subscribers, TBP wouldn't even exist. Your collective tears say more than a TBP confessional ever could. :]
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 03:52 AM
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I love TBP too: impotently flails around while men get sex with non-feminist approve methods
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 03:42 AM
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You belong to a sub that's obsessed with TRP and you can't do a thing about fighting it. drops mic
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 03:37 AM
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You belong to a group that agrees with a man that becoming a feminist will get you laid. The more you type, the more desperate you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 03:30 AM
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I think the very fact that i'm spinning 3 plates at the same time says otherwise and it probably says more about the fact that bloopers are more upset that TRP basically works.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 03:14 AM
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It's called self awareness, something the overwhelming majority of women and their beta blooper orbiters don't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 03:07 AM
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Yeah, that's why they think they can fuck around in their youth and then marry the 6'2" billionaire alpha male with the 12 inch cock when they reach 30. Women's reality IS a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 03:01 AM
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Which TV shows were you talking about then? The book did incredibly well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 02:45 AM
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Because the problem isn't a lack of beta, it's a lack of alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 01:08 AM
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Are you going to keep ignoring the fact that this generation of women find marriage more important than the previous generation? Feminism is the cause of men not completing college anymore?. College is voluntary and men are choosing not to finish. That's probably a bigger cause for unemployment. Feminism is the cause of boys getting absolutely fucked in public schools because public schools caters to learning for young girls, not boys. That has a profound effect on boys wanting to go to college.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 01:02 AM
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It's not a chicken or the egg problem because we know what came first in this case. The share of men who want to get married dropped while it rose for women. Men are the ones who are opting out first and foremost. The unemployment rate for men is a side consequence of feminism btw. Women got what they wished for... and then some.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 12:45 AM
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Sorry, but actually this generation of young women care more about having a good marriage than previous generations of young women. Your anecdote doesn't really mean much compared to statistics. http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/young-men-and-women-differ-on-the-importance-of-a-successful-marriage/ The share of young men (ages 18 to 34) who say that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things in their lives has dropped six percentage points since 1997, from 35% to 29%.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 12:37 AM
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Women value marriage more than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 12:23 AM
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Which TV shows show the 'good father' who cooks, cleans, takes care of the children and the wife works and do you honestly think women are dripping wet at that character, jilling themselves off? OOOOhhhh OOOHhhh clean that oven, yeah that's what mommy likes! No, women love alphas like that 50 shades of gray dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 12:21 AM
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BAHAhAHAHAAHAHA That's just 'i like nice guys' nonsense. I don't give a shit about what women say they like, i care about their actual actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 12:16 AM
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you are perfectly capable of being a stay at home man? Yes, because we know how wet most women get at the thought of her man cooking/cleaning/raising children while she works at the office.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 12:12 AM
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She's better off with a beta Yeah about that... many betas 'wake up' and sorta become alphas later in life, this is why marriage rates are dropping. Women fucked up, SPECTACULARLY: http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/15 12:07 AM
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The reason we always seem down on the lowly beta is when their beta traits outweigh any alpha traits they may have. They get all the cons of a beta, but none of the pros.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 06:40 PM
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Women cry regularly. They don't have confidence. Their emotions are chaotic. That's the opposite of alpha. Alpha is having control over your emotions. That said, I'm glad some of you promote balance. But having explored TRP, it's sidebar, the most popular and hottest posts, I would not say it's characterized by this discussion of balance. It's mostly aggressive alfalfas in their "anger phase," talking about how women are dogs. They make caricatures of themselves. The reason is because alpha char…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 06:40 PM
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The reason we always seem down on the lowly beta is when their beta traits outweigh any alpha traits they may have. They get all the cons of a beta, but none of the pros.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 04:46 PM
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Here is Elliot Hulse talking about being a true alpha. He's correct in his description of what it is, but he falsely associates the ying and yang to some female part of it. It's the same distinction i make in the alpha+ and alpha-, strong frame/confidence/(as Elliot says) being grounded is a male characteristic, not female one. Women don't naturally have strong frames/confidence. If they did, men wouldn't, for example, negotiate for higher salaries at a rate 4 times that women do (because they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 04:08 PM
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Frank Yang is also a cuckold who talks about philosophy (and encourages that men talk with women about philosophy). He also talks about how he finds penises attractive. BALANCE. I don't think he's a cuckhold, one of his newest videos he talks about having sex with over 100 women in the past year or so. Where is that, buried? No, the overwhelming majority of posters agree that you can't be 100% alpha (UNLESS you are only going for the pump and dump). Most posters advocate spinning plates, which r…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 03:04 PM
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He's not really comparable to James Bond; he's more a Frank Yang/Bruce Lee guy. Frank Yang is a hard alpha guy. Who the fuck has sex in public on a busy street in broad daylight? Where is anything like this on TRP? TRP doesn't advocate being 100% alpha. Read it up more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 02:34 PM
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You're clueless
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 01:13 PM
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Tall people are naturally dominant, that is why CEO's and top sales people are on average taller
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 04:19 AM
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But... the guys treating women like jizz sponges are getting all the sex. It really doesn't have much to do with their views on feminism, it has everything to do with the fact that they're high status. The problem you have is that you believe in a just world theory where if every single man on earth were a feminist, they'd be justly rewarded by women with the sex they finally deserve by being their allies against THE PATRIARCHY. You're basically like a republican (whereas they believe that just …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 03:28 AM
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Just do some exercise, get better fitting clothes, and adjust your attitude some. Boy that sounds like the rocky 4 scene in russia where rocky's running in 3 feet of snow with a log on his back.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 03:23 AM
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Becoming an alpha is easier than trying to get a woman as joe average beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 03:14 AM
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I'm disproving Dr. Nerdlove's theory that being a feminist will get you laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 03:14 AM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 03:13 AM
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Nope, the phrase 'getting lucky' became popular because, for average guys, it's not easy finding someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 02:45 AM
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Ah yes, clearly this man has a pro-height increasing conspiracy that he's trying to maintain, why did i not see that. This person put up a serious genetics blog on their own site and you're comparing it to microblogging on tumblr. Hmm, maybe you're just in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 02:43 AM
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Right, a blog about gene expression made up that data http://www.gnxp.com/ LOL BLUEPILL
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 02:39 AM
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Here are the trends for European male heights for the last 2000 years. See that upward sloping regression line? http://www.gnxp.com/blog/uploaded_images/europeheight-713667.jpg LOL BLUEPILL. 100 years my ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 02:10 AM
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You know we've grown taller as a species, right? How do you think that works. LOL BLUEPILL.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 02:01 AM
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It has more to do with the fact that these dumb bitches wasted their youth playing the field while they were their most desirable, but like all quickly depreciating assets, are about to lose value. And now they are super desperate. THAT is the driver (well, that and older men finally having some money and a bit more experience in life, but the wall is the biggest driver).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 01:53 AM
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The article talks about men who don't have much sexual success when they are young, but once they get older they find it, the flood gates of pussy opens for them, and they don't marry. Read the damn article, it corresponds to your chart. Basically both confirms TRP, thanks for the chart, i'm saving it. BTW, men to to over-report sexual partners and women under report it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 01:48 AM
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"Find someone who is attracted to you." Definitely feminist approved, because I hear that mostly from feminists. Not perfect (neither is RP advice), but it works well enough in my experience. "nobody is attracted to you because you are a weak beta bitch" is the real truth Not according to the Dr. He basically says that in a feminist society women wouldn't get slut shamed for having sex and thus more sex would happen and thus more men would get laid. I won't depend that position, just wanted to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 01:15 AM
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It conforms to this article which i've posted probably 20 times here http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 01:13 AM
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It's pretty hilarious that you ignore all the other age ranges that basically confirm TRP, i don't know why you focus on only one age range, especially since i brought up college. And again, older men have an easier time of sex b/c their SMV goes up at later ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 01:02 AM
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It's called a soft harem. So what if it's not a rigorous peer reviewed journal? I've witnessed that at my uni, most of my friends have noticed it. It's not controversial. “Guys tend to overshoot themselves and find a really beautiful girlfriend they couldn’t date otherwise, but can, thanks to the ratio,” how does men dating up due to the favorable gender odds fit with your harem culture theory? Those guys meet a bare minimum standard that most women have. A somewhat good looking dude could be ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 12:53 AM
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"What exactly are blue pill techniques? " Feminist approved, aka snakeoil And a short correction about Dr Nerdlove and the feminist ally stuff. What he writes in this sentence is quite misleading (not sure if on purpose). He says that in a more feminist society it would be easier for men to get laid. So men should work towards a more feminist society. He seems to leave out that societal change takes time, so if you become a feminist ally today, it might help you getting laid more in a few decade…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/15 12:32 AM
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Not older women, of course, because they expired/are expiring. Well, they still would favor a harem, but no alpha would want her. College is the ultimate social experiment, in terms of proof. These are soft harems. Read this through: Even though there much more women than men on the campus, there's no 1 to 1 pairing, half the men on the campus are invisible while alpha men are jumping from bed to bed: http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2yipqi/from_the_new_york_times_women_are_suffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 11:56 PM
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Newsflash: Women overwhelmingly are attracted by taller men. Historically speaking and today. Taller men are more dominant, by nature. If women didn't want dominance, they wouldn't have that preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 11:49 PM
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a pareto efficient design, where there's more of a 1 to 1 match, rather than a hypergamous harem/lots of unmarrieds. Men used to have something to work hard for. Now they're dropping out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 11:45 PM
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Women date/marry up. Men date/marry down. Women always want men who are better than they are. Women naturally submit. This is part of the reason why relationships are terrible these days. Feminists say relationships should be at least equal. Then men are more submissive and women have no respect for those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 11:44 PM
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The best/most pareto efficient society was when the worst of both male (polygamy) and female (hypergamy) sexuality was restrained. This was a somewhat regulated sexual economy. The worst is when we have a free market sexual economy or a sexual economy ruled by kings.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 11:15 PM
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Point is, women who submit are happier. MMSL - married man sex life - basically advocates RP for marriage. It's the Captain/First mate model of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 10:56 PM
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A feminized society means we care more about feelings than truth, and masculinity is demonized. Men don't know how to act around women, and feminists are defining narrower and narrower acceptable behaviors for men chasing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 10:52 PM
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the fact that they needed advice/help to begin with is not society's fault is it? it really is. We're a feminized society and men have had their balls cut off.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 10:23 PM
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It ignores the lasting psychological effects for both parties. Seems to work for RPW and anyone who follows MMSL/athol kay
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 09:40 PM
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Even the 'average Joe' BPer is doing just fine without TRP. No, that's not true at all. 'BP' as in the entirety of BPers? As in every non-RPer? Nope. Just some people from TBP who you try to generalize as the entirety of BPers. Nice try though. But you all nod in agreement. Next you're going to tell me BP doesn't have a feminist bent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 09:39 PM
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So you are switching goalposts? Are you saying that most men function quite well with the 'BP advice' and don't need TRP advice? That only those with nothing else going for them flock to it? No? Clearly naturally attractive/rich men need it less. So? That's just one site/blog. Why does he matter so much? Because BP advocates it. And only women go to it, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 09:36 PM
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I'm talking about men who don't have anything going for them. Nobody is flocking to dr nerdlove, for example, because his advice is garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 09:31 PM
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Again, if BP approved advice worked, men would flock to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 09:26 PM
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They've already tried, several times, didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 08:59 PM
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Don't have those traits != Don't like those traits. You're misconstruing, and I'm done here :) Of course, because your ideals are indefensible and if you actually had to answer my question about dr nerdlove, you'd REALLY sweat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 08:58 PM
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In aggregate, those traits are attractive vs. men who don't have those traits (i.e. bpers who are the ideal man). You are stretching. Also, you still haven't answered my question about dr. nerdlove.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 08:33 PM
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No it doesn't because they were testing 2 extremes Extreme TRPer > Extreme bluepill beta. Bluepillers despise dark triad traits, again not a problem. Once you start introducing those traits, BPers aren't going to start defending them. undergrads Yes, using the most desireable women sure is problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 08:24 PM
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If dark triad traits are 'problematic', then it's not a problem. it does show the ideal TRP man is superior to the ideal BP man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 08:19 PM
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Oh, so the women only had a choice between super bland vanilla and rocky road. That is a huge limitation. It's a huge limitation that men without dark triad traits were part of the group? If dark triad traits are inherently bad, then that's not really a problem. It still proves that BP betas are inferior to TRP alphas. Or are you saying some dark triad traits are ok? Now you're contorting yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 08:14 PM
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I have no time to deal with cowards who can't debate logically. Should i give my time to cowards who won't debate honestly? Example: However, Carter and his colleagues point out that virtually all of these studies have used self-report data ... Uh, oh. Isn't it true that men over inflate their success in almost everything? I like how you dishonestly pretend that the study was based on self reported men when that line was about PREVIOUS studies, whereas THIS study was based on the WOMAN'S view, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 07:50 PM
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by legalizing the right for women to love multiple men This won't happen and men to love multiple women? This will happen Men are polygamous, women are hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 07:42 PM
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I'll admit, i didn't read the books, but just based on what i've seen in the movies, which appear to be different from the books from your description.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 07:36 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? Stop acting like a child and answer my question. 1) You made some assertions in your post about dr nerdlove/bp that aren't true 2) You won't answer my questions 3) You know nothing: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/head-games/201310/why-do-women-fall-bad-boys 4) It's interesting that you are the angry, entitled one without self control (re-read your own post) and you are calling me the child when you resemble the child, stomping your feet and making deman…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 07:34 PM
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Are you seriously going to deny that BP has a very heavy feminist leaning bent?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 07:26 PM
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Who is they? Bluepillers, they love dr. nerdlove. Stop being intentionally dense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 07:21 PM
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But his frame is strong enough that he doesn't give a flying fuck what others think of him. Give no fucks, btw, is a far more attractive trait in men than being a supplicating beta bitch that tries to please everyone (while women are sexual sluts, men can be emotional sluts). At the end of the day, he gets what he wants and he gets results.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 07:19 PM
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When did I say anything about becoming a feminist ally? What does this have anything to do with BP ideals and reality? You need to stop throwing red-herrings around because it makes you look very foolish. It has to do with it because they mentioned it. Speaking about not being in reality...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 07:16 PM
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Is this your subjective opinion or do you have actual data to back up this assertion? Look at all the incels who want to kill themselves because they were giving terrible BP advice. But please, explain to me how becoming a feminist ally is a great way to being god's gift to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 07:11 PM
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Because they have the same set of tools, they just use it differently. Elliot Hulse and James Bond have resolve/frames of steel. Alpha negatives flaunt societal expectations, BUT they have chaotic frames. They're the ones who are most likely to beat their SO's because they get angry easily. I lift, i meditate, i read philosophy so i can become strong in terms of my body, but also mind and spirit. Alpha negatives only lift so they can act like baboons and get away with it. You do realize that man…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 07:09 PM
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Doesn't matter if you're married, spinning plates, or pump and dumping, that's not how i classify alpha+ or -. Elliott Hulse is married, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 06:57 PM
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Alpha + what? Genuinely asking. Alpha-: Jersey shore type guys who are loud/obnoxious/look like total douchebags with their trashy clothes/hairstyle/lip stick (!?!?)/fake tans. They're high energy apes/jesters. Drug dealers/'guitar player in a band'/other types of criminals also fit in this category. Alpha+: Men who have cool confidence/have a resolve and frame made of steel/a leader of men/dresses impeccably/has high self respect. Both types of men get laid, but i have a preference of the latte…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 06:26 PM
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The kind of advice you're looking for clashes with bluepill. That is the problem. But the real problem is, TBP's ideals clashes with reality. I couldn't give less fucks about a man coming to me for advice on how to trick women to have sex with them. That's weird, TBP seems to care with that stupid therad. You could receive, though, good relationship advice. Not from TBP though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 06:18 PM
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Those are alpha- men, i prefer to be more alpha+ (Less Jersey Shore, more Elliott Hulse/James Bond)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 06:15 PM
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Yet was in the study...and statistically significant. WOW. How blind is TRP? What does 'having a kid with from a prior relationship' have to do with being a dumb slut and being an unhappy partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 06:14 PM
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Did you also see the part about previous kids from another relationship? No? Of course not! Doesn't have to do with anything. But being in a relationship with someone who already has kids is idiotic, especially with women with children. Also. CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION. On a practical level, who the fuck cares? THEY'RE TERRIBLE PARTNERS EITHER WAY.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 06:08 PM
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You can treat her like a human being. Ask her about her day, care about her life. That will establish an emotional connection with her and when women feel connected to their partners, they feel more secure and have a higher sex drive. This is why beta nice guys do already. Actually they go above and beyond what you just described. In before you claim those guys are faking niceness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 02:03 PM
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http://nationalmarriageproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NMP-BeforeIDoReport-Final.pdf But that’s not most people. In our sample, only 23 percent of the individuals who got married over the course of the study had had sex solely with the person they married. That minority of men and women reported higher marital quality than those who had had sex with other partners prior to marriage. We further found that the more sexual partners a woman had had before marriage, the less happy she reported…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 01:55 PM
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I don't buy it. Assuming this guy's not a troll A troll who took 2 years to play out his troll.. kinda dedicated for that, don't you think? and talk with your wife about her feels, which are ultimately the root cause of you not having sex in the first place." HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, yeah, hi spoiled wife, i work my ass off to give you a nice house, nice car, nice clothes, nice jewelry, how else can i serve you before you'll touch my penis again?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/15 01:22 PM
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More men are homeless than women, more men are unemployed than women, more women get degrees than men. That's not even bringing in the fact that men are the ones who are dying on the job (93% of industrial deaths are men). You only look UP, that's the problem. If you were a spirit that was about to be born, would you rather be born a boy, who has a microscopic chance of becoming wealthy but a very big chance of being poor or a woman, who have a very big chance of becoming middle class? Not surpr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 05:18 PM
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this study says a lot about undergraduates Yes, and you'd expect post-graduates to have it even WORSE>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 04:24 PM
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Because you're bitching about having options and trying to turn the tables against people who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:39 PM
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My point is, who gives a flying fuck? If i had the choice, before being born, between a gender where i have a tiny chance of fabulously rich vs a big chance of being dirt poor vs. a very high chance of being a middle income person, i would choose the latter every single time, and that's not even factoring early death. Western women are the biggest whiners of all time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:37 PM
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but still it's hard for the average woman to find a satisfying relationship. There are only 2 reasons for this: 1) She's really ugly 2) She's a typical spoiled american woman (extra negative bonus points for being a feminist) Act loveable and you will be loved, not just lusted after. Actually #2 is even more important. If you're an average looking woman, you will be able to snag an LTR easily with some girl game (aka, not being a typical cunt)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:23 PM
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Men rule big bucks thus far. Men have higher unemployement/homelessness/suicide rates/death rates from work. Also men are the ones that die from war (but i guess hillary clinton says women are the primary victims of men dying from war, LMAO) I dislike feminists because they complain about being on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:22 PM
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Unlike you I don't get giddy at the thought of fucking every man who wants to have sex with me. But you have options whereas most men don't. Stop complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/15 02:21 PM
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Women get STD's easier than men, avoid sluts at all costs for LTR's.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 11:25 PM
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Being nice to others is the least effective way to get romance/sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 08:07 PM
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And what about the men? Are they not getting a proper sexual education either? They aren't, that's why TRP exists. Men were told being nice to women would get them laid when they were boys. When they realized this was a lie, they had to learn the hard way how it's really done. Now idiots like Dr Nerdlove and other feminists are telling men they should become feminists/allies and they too will get laid. Society lies to everyone. Edit: I didn't realize before how funny it is that feminists are pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 07:27 PM
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Except shaming doesn't work on me, especially when it comes to illogical feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 06:23 PM
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This comment deserves more attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 05:55 PM
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Which makes me doubt that what you suggest is the case. MY NARRATIVES
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 05:51 PM
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The issue is with feminists bitching about inconsequential shit and making a much bigger deal about shit than needs be. Anna Kasparian makes a great point about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2Y6VH4PShQ
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 05:50 PM
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Here's my post: http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/33d6wb/feminists_arent_hijacking_entertainment/cqjql8n Here's your reply post about your 'colleagues': http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/33d6wb/feminists_arent_hijacking_entertainment/cqjqv6p In what way does my post imply that your colleagues couldn't possibly be mostly feminists. I thought logic was a requirement for STEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 05:46 PM
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It's a fact that most o my STEM colleagues are feminists. This has nothing to do with anything we're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 05:42 PM
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I would add 'malicious', 'unjust', and 'all too common' in that description. I would also replace 'those associated with the university' with 'feminists associated with the university and those that kowtowed to them', if we were being more honest. This is why i don't like feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 05:36 PM
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Actually i was correcting your wrongness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 05:34 PM
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Not hyperbole in the least, (see: UVA, See conor oberst, see the president of the Oxford Union) but "What do you think of the Duke case?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 05:30 PM
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Also, stop pretending there isn't tension between STEM and feminists http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/33d6wb/feminists_arent_hijacking_entertainment/cqjsdhp
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 05:27 PM
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So, about that Duke case, you think those feminist professors were in the right, right? Because that's what feminists do ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 05:26 PM
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Half of them work in quant themselves. Get the hell out of here. They make fun of the way TRP acts like only men have logic and thus only men can STEM. No, they get pissed off that TRP makes fun of gender studies majors (and other majors that are completely useless), making fun of STEM is the only response BP has.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 05:25 PM
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By extreme, you mean the BP being all pissy that TRP makes fun of gender studies majors and making fun of STEM is the only retort they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 05:23 PM
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Oh and how could i forget thebluepill? They make fun of STEM constantly: http://np.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/search?q=STEM&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all Do any of you feminists live in reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 05:12 PM
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Go to r/gamerghazi, the feminist anti-gamergate sub, they make fun of STEM all the time. And i also pointed out they continually attack STEM for 'mysoginy', which is true. Feminists also make up shit to get all outraged over. You, OTOH, pretended a) That feminists don't attack STEM and b) there are so many feminists in STEM (due to most of your COLLEAGUES being 'feminists'), this couldn't possibly be true. As if your anecdotal narratives mean anything. Remember, any male programmer who isn't a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 05:09 PM
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Facts and Logic = Bitter There's that feminist shaming again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 04:58 PM
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https://archive.today/20141109024536/http://www.wired.com/2013/03/richards-affair-and-misogyny-in-tech/ "Donglegate: Why the Tech Community Hates Feminists" <- from a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 04:49 PM
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It's funny watching you do a complete 180 degrees when you guys get called out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 04:48 PM
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Of course you wouldn't buy it, because you're a feminist. Again, facts and logic aren't relevant to you. That's why the 1 in 5 and 77 cents on the dollar myths still persist. But here's the gist: A bunch of men on the lacrosse team at Duke University were falsely accused of rape. Before the facts even came out, feminists protested the men accusing them of the crime they didn't commit and most of the feminist leaning departments publicly shamed the men with a letter they wrote that was published …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 04:46 PM
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Implying departments Feminists bitch about the entire software/IT industry (which is YOUNGER as a WHOLE) actually. Yeah, i guess those Duke Science/Engineering professors were remnants of an era where they require facts before making up their minds. The horror. Again, who got egg on their face in the end of that debacle?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 04:24 PM
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I'm a STEM PhD candidate. I'm also a feminist. And so are the vast majority of my colleagues. Feminists aren't making fun of STEM all the time. Where in the world did you come up with that? Oh. So there's no misogyny in STEM because most STEM folks are feminists, right? Ok, feminists can now shut the fuck up about how STEM is an autistic misogynistic boys club keeping women out. Edit: Donglegate and Shirtgate never happened either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 04:14 PM
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The bottom line is that men going to war has also been a great source of male agency. Military service is pretty clutch in obtaining political power; just ask John McCain. Dear women: You can take my place on the front lines. Go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 01:30 PM
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To some degree, yes. They push marriage hard, like american women are still of marriageable quality. You also assume TRP cares if anyone hates us, we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 03:37 AM
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There's also Plain Jane I would argue that Plain Jane has it good until she reaches her late 20's (assuming she's the type of gal that shuns meaningful relationships to focus on her career... until her biological clock starts ticking... aka a 'feminist').
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 03:18 AM
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redpill end of the spectrum when it comes to opinions about how things should be between men and women Only to a small degree. Consevatives (especially the evangelical ones) are stupid fucking betas in their own right. Redpill advocates AGAINST marriage. In our society, getting a steady job and being married were hallmarks of entering manhood. It's only recently that men have started to shun marriage. Stop rewriting history.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 03:15 AM
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Thanks for reminding me why alternet is a garbage site no better than gawker.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 03:10 AM
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http://www.aspentimes.com/news/snowmass/10137990-113/game-married-ante-basically http://www.pellebilling.com/2012/04/do-men-need-to-man-up/ http://www.todayschristianwoman.com/articles/2012/january/why-young-men-arent-manning-up.html http://www.familylife.com/articles/topics/marriage/getting-married/choosing-a-spouse/single-men-its-time-to-step-up#.VTW6bfnF_h4 http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/See-How-Feminism-Has-Failed/3635137 http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/10/07/why-does-america-h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 03:00 AM
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You don't know what you're talking about. Like ZERO idea. http://www.aspentimes.com/news/snowmass/10137990-113/game-married-ante-basically http://www.pellebilling.com/2012/04/do-men-need-to-man-up/ http://www.todayschristianwoman.com/articles/2012/january/why-young-men-arent-manning-up.html http://www.familylife.com/articles/topics/marriage/getting-married/choosing-a-spouse/single-men-its-time-to-step-up#.VTW6bfnF_h4 http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/See-How-Feminism-Has-Failed/3635137 ht…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 02:53 AM
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Or he can just leave the bitch. She obviously doesn't respect him or his boundaries. Stop giving excuses for your own gender. You'd be mad as shit if your SO slept over some other woman's house drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 12:31 AM
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Bluepillers on reddit have had more of an effect on me going to TRP than TRP ever did. Nobody from TRP ever 'invited' me to join. Understanding the disposability of men (which BP helped me learn) has been the most liberating piece of knowledge for me. Edit: Star Slate Codex actually has a very well thought out article on the OP's point: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/ No. I’m saying the causal arrow goes the opposite direction from the one Barry’s suggesting. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 12:29 AM
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I like how a man who doesn't approve of his wife going drunk to a 2 strange men's house is now 'neediness'. This conversation we're having needs to be part of some 'don't marry' advertisement for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/15 12:23 AM
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Nobody cares that you want to go to a stitching club with other women. Stop comparing it to some drunk girl who goes to 2 other dud'es house after partying at a bachelorette party.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 11:24 PM
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Uh, no, it's logic. That report only listed women who put marriage as the most important thing in their lives, it's not 'marriage or not marriage', it's different levels of priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 10:34 PM
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No, there are women who put marriage is important but not 'one of the most important' that are part of the 37% The number of women who want marriage is obviously higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 09:28 PM
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but they don't want them. It's their equals who don't want them. The women would have to marry DOWN if they want marriage. Now they are trying for a younger guy. Not sure where you saw that in the article, but that's hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 09:26 PM
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There's evidence she doesn't respect him and his boundaries and he had to pry the truth out of her. That's enough to leave her. Stop putting women on pedestals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 09:15 PM
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Still not vein bursting hostility.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 08:47 PM
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Not really, i used to have a dog, there's a reason why they're called 'man's best friend'. I don't have emotional feelings for my house, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 08:20 PM
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Same here i guess? I demand strong boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 08:13 PM
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It's a stupid comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 08:12 PM
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When i said 'then i go', i mean divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 07:58 PM
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Many people don't want new homes, they want 1-3 hundred year old homes because they have character, despite their flaws. A home isn't a living, breathing being that i interact with. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 07:48 PM
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"If you go, then i go" Establish boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 07:46 PM
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Absolutely not. That is not a gender role. Men are expected to be the providers in marriage, but by no means is there social pressure to actually marry. Why do you feel the need to lie? Men were ABSOLUTELY expected to marry. You never heard the term "MAN UP" and calling men who don't settle down and marry "Man-children"? Are you THAT unaware? Then how did matriarchal societies in which women controlled the resources ever exist? I'm not sure what you're getting at here, that's kind of the point. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 06:43 PM
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You're just typing random shit out at this point. Can Christians really test to see if they'll get into heaven after they die? No, i can test to see if RP methods get me better results in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 06:29 PM
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Except of course they do, because traditional gender roles still exist. Men are still expected to be providers. People are indoctrinated with this social institution at a young age, and they cannot shed it. That's what feminism is trying to change. If gender roles were so strong, explain to me why marriage rates are plummeting. Men are expected to MAN UP and settle down with women. That is the ULTIMATE gender role and one that men have destroyed with ease. You're just making shit up at this poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 06:27 PM
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If it didn't work, i wouldn't be talking about RP. I'm practical. If being a computer scientist got me laid, you'd see me sign up for discrete mathematics and java courses today.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 06:19 PM
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Sex is available, because there's a portion of women in their 20s who are willing to engage in casual sexual encounters. Actually, sex is available because women in their THIRTIES are desperate to lock someone down for marriage. Again, men control the market for sex after a certain age. I do. Its certainly more common among millennials. But regardless, the answer is obviously gender roles. It's 2015 and STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMEN don't need men with jobs (except for the overwhelming majority of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 06:18 PM
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Sounds more like you're mad that RP actually works. :]
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 06:12 PM
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more than hanging out with beautiful women, working to advance in a prestigious career, etc.? It's not an either or, i can do multiple things in my life. how does debating people who think red pill is idiotic make you a better person? I enjoy it. That's reason enough. isn't this more about killing time because you don't have much better to do with your time, because red pill has not made you a successful person? You're projecting. You know nothing about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 06:10 PM
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So the availability of women who aren't interested in marriage (at least in their 20s) are causing men to not be interested in marriage. Isn't that exactly my point? No, the availability of sex for men in their 30's forward is what's causing men to not be interested in marriage. You have a huge problem where you just ignore whole portions of text and make up imaginary things in your head to argue about. Because women want men that are financially independent and attractive. These women are finan…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 06:08 PM
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just try not to burst a vein in the meantime. such hostile responses really don't facilitate either discussion or debate Show me where i show anger. I'm pretty calm typing this out. I think you're projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 06:01 PM
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are you saying red pill works in general even if it doesn't work for you? or others who clearly have more time to spend on here than would suggest they have happy fulfilling lives? if you had figured out the ultimate fitness system for happiness would your really spend time on the internet debating with people who had inferior systems? What if i just like debating people?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 05:57 PM
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do you even have a point with this thread Yes, i want to reveal societal lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 05:57 PM
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Trickle Truth No respect for boundaries. Those are enough to dump her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 05:52 PM
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and yet you referenced youtube videos where women typically turn down most good looking men for sex. and then you tried to undermine that evidence when i used it for my argument, convenient. Because the test wasn't to pick up a woman with the most optimal methods, silly. Also, in these bachelorette situations, alcohol and the imminent loss of 'freedom' are involved. Setting and context is also important. that's why you are all so happy and calm and have such full lives that you can make time to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 05:50 PM
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Point still stands that the BP retards in /r/relationship told him not to worry about it in the 1st thread while RP would have told him the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 05:44 PM
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but they can hookup with women they meet at bars, have you never brought home a girl from a bar? or made out with a girl at bar? do bachelor parties not go to bars? do friend party weekends not involve bars? Hooking up with a girl at a bar typically takes skill and much intention (depending on how good looking the guy is). A bride to be can have sex with ease. This is why sluts aren't seen as anything special while studs are. It's easy to be a slut, ahrd to be a stud. i knew red pillers would be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 05:43 PM
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This shouldn't need pointing out, but men typically don't get sex from strippers compared to the opposite. Here, feast your eyes on this askreddit thread about male strippers: https://archive.today/HeJtf I worked as "male entertainment" for a few years in college. Roughly half of the brides to be at bachelorette parties had sex with me or gave me sexual favors. But bridesmaids were a 100% thing, every time I'd get with a couple. There are multiple stories from male strippers like that. And there…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 05:29 PM
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And men are rejecting marriage beacuse...? http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html But then he spent time overseas, gained more confidence, learnt how to dress well and hit his early 30s. ''I suddenly started to get asked out by women, aged 19 through to 40. The floodgates burst open for me. I actually dated five women at once, amazing my flatmates by often bedding three to four of my casual dates each week. It is a great time as a male in your 30s, whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 05:17 PM
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They are shaming the "creme de la creme" of men into it. No, they aren't. They KNOW the 'creme de la creme' aren't going to commit. It's well established that 6'2" chad thundercock was never going to commit. "Chad" never put himself into a position (a stable GF/BF relationship) where that was even a possibility because he was fucking several other women at once. They're shaming Joe McAverage with a middle class job. Most women are opting out of marrying men they don't deem as worthy. No, they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 05:08 PM
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Yes they are. You, yourself, mentioned that women are saying "where have all the good men gone." There aren't enough good partners, so women are making the choice not to get married. Again, you're conflating men saying no first with women rejecting marriage. It ABSOLUTELY MATTERS who rejects first. It ABSOLUTELY MATTERS that men, on average, put marriage as a lower priority in their lives than women do. Why can you not seperate the words "want" and "need"? Read what I write and read it carefully…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 04:55 PM
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Then why is it women who shame men into commitment still? More wishful thinking from you and roflcopter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 04:28 PM
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Why are you arguing? All I said was "Both men and women are spurning marriage." It doesn't matter what people want. What matters is the decisions people are making. Both women and men are choosing not to get married. That's all I'm arguing. Except women aren't, that's the point. Women can choose not to get married because of financial freedom. Financial freedom has nothing to do with wanting marriage, it simply enables women to make the choice not to marry (versus being force to settle down). Uh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 04:07 PM
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I'm not disputing that, actually. Why are you arguing then Again, I'm not arguing this. Why are you arguing then I don't care, but it's not really relevant to my argument. You made an indefensible assertion. I merely shot it down. It's quite relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 03:55 PM
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And why are men saying no to marriage "first"? Because women are "behaving badly," ie women are behaving in ways that make men think they don't have to or don't want to marry. Uh no, it's generally accepted by virtually everyone that it's women who want marriage more. You're living in some alternate reality. "Women behaving badly" != women not wanting marriage, it means they want to delay marriage while they focus for a few years on their career. Also, you conveniently ignore the 2nd part of my …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 03:33 PM
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Remove divorcees and low SMV men who never had a chance at a relationship (much less marriage) from that study and get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 03:28 PM
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I don't think it matters either way. If we follow your logic, men are "behaving badly" because women are "behaving badly," When i say 'behaving badly', i mean men are saying no to marriage/commitment FIRST. MEN dictate the relationship market at 30 on. Women are the ones that don't have the choice at that stage. It's a chicken/egg scenario, but it's enabled by the fact that women have financial freedom. No, it's not a chicken/egg scenario, its' a game of chicken and women are blinking first. Int…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 03:26 PM
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Those low SMV men without jobs aren't going to be in long term relationships either. And women are the ones who pressure men into marriage, not the other way around. So those 'long term relationships' eventually turn into an ultimatum for matrimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 03:19 PM
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I just know that they're making other choices. You know that how? It's not men shaming women into commitment, it's the other way around. I think you're mixing up causation here. Men, who ordinarily have marriageable qualities, are 'behaving badly' nowadays. Women, of course, are repulsed by that. But you can't say it's women rejecting men when it's men's initial rejection that are causing women to rethink marriage. More men dictate relationships at later stages in life (whereas women dictated re…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 03:17 PM
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More like men need to get laid in the moment or else they will shrivel up and kill themselves. Nope, this isn't really true. Porn (espeically the easily availability of internet porn) has had a huge effect on behavior. Men are finding out that as long as they aren't a complete loser, they can get sex fairly easily as long as they have a halfway decent job in their 30's. Over the long time horizon, everything works in men's favor. Women have FAR greater needs than men (especially material goods/s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 03:13 PM
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My study trumps your 2 personal opinion articles. http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/young-men-and-women-differ-on-the-importance-of-a-successful-marriage/ The share of young men (ages 18 to 34) who say that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things in their lives has dropped six percentage points since 1997, from 35% to 29%. For women, the opposite effect occurred, as the share voicing this opinion rose from 28% to 37%. I await your rebuttle from a study from 1989 iv…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 03:07 PM
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show me any research that backs up your views. the fact is normal human beings derive happiness from long term meaning (long term friendships, long term relationships, long term careers), not short term visceral rewards (that's how unhealthy narcissists operate). are you incapable of long term associations or do you just not understand/accept their value? There are many men who have absolutely no marriage prospects even if they wanted marriage. We're really arguing about men who have choices, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 03:00 PM
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I'll take research studies over huffpo articles any day of the week. Also, talk about shooting yourself in the foot, LMAO: http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/09/24/chapter-3-marriage-market-for-all-unmarried-adults/ The new Pew Research survey findings suggest that today’s unmarried women place a high premium on finding a spouse with a steady job: 78% of never-married women say this is very important, compared with 46% of men. And much of the research that has been done on marriage markets has …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 02:56 PM
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No woman cares if an individual man drops out. But the effect is, each man that drops out (especially one that's gainfully employed), that's one less available man for a woman to marry and the ratio is already terrible for women to begin with. That's something else i've noticed, women aren't smart enough to look at the macro view (Much less long time horizons): http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/09/24/chapter-3-marriage-market-for-all-unmarried-adults/ The new Pew Research survey findings sugge…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 02:54 PM
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Shrug, who said anything about avoiding women. I just won't give commitment. Also, you're delusional and don't live in reality: http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/young-men-and-women-differ-on-the-importance-of-a-successful-marriage/ The share of young men (ages 18 to 34) who say that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things in their lives has dropped six percentage points since 1997, from 35% to 29%. For women, the opposite effect occurred, as the share voicing this…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 02:46 PM
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And you are desperate to pretend that women aren't desperate for marriage. Men aren't the ones writing articles about that, women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 02:39 PM
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Your post is only true for men who don't know what they're doing/are at the very bottom of the SMV ladder. If a man is single, works out, makes lots of money, and has an abundance of women he's sleeping with, do you honestly believe that he's not happy and healthy? Also, i wonder how many of those single people are divorcees who got absolutely RAPED through a divorce? Are you going to tell me marriage was worth it for them? I've seen men's finances and souls absolutely crushed through divorce. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 02:37 PM
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So don't get married? I don't think a woman personally cares if you drop out and go your own way? The number one thing a woman looks for in a man is employment when it comes to marriage. The ratio of employed men to employed women is at it's lowest point. I'm doing something far more insidioius than just dropping out: My goal is to maximize my earnings while not giving commitment. Ask these women how they feel about it: http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 02:33 PM
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Read this whole article and tell me who is the one who is dictating what: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/society-and-culture/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html Women are desperate that men are playing them/unwilling to commit and learning they lose over time. Men are learning that they win over the a longer time horizon. Remember, it's lonely women lamenting/writing about 'where have all the good men gone'!?!? and are the ones with the biological/reproductive clock. Men c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 02:26 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x64cy3Bcr98 Focus on his part about being a 'house cat'
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 02:22 PM
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If you were to follow such an ideal, you'd end up a very hollow and empty person. Maybe for you, but i found inner peace and inner strength out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 01:44 PM
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Seems it's the men that are irrational and driven by hormones, and women who have got their heads on right. What's rational about sleeping around then crying when you hit your 30's and can't secure commitment? Marriage rates are plummeting. Men are the rational ones: They're playing the trump card they have: Their commitment (they're not giving it). And the overwhelming majority of them don't even know what TRP is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 01:39 PM
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lmao like women don't lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 01:18 PM
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Maybe HelenBeck isn't a slut :P But if she were, i bet she'd change her tune real quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 05:04 AM
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Yes, it's doomed, and with it, the economy will be doomed. Births are decreasing and the old are living longer. IIRC, 2050 will be the tipping point when the world's population will start to decrease. Governments will not be taxing for the benefit their citizens as a whole, but will start taxing as a wealth transfer from young to old (and of course the old will far outnumber the young) due to entitlements. In response, the young will stop working because there's no reason to. You wanted feminism…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/15 12:54 AM
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Now explain why a man carrying a woman isn't the man being 'her dad'? The hypocrisy is the reason why it makes absolutely no sense for men to marry women. And most women look DOWN on prostitutes, heh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 04:59 PM
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Yeah, marrying an american woman who doesn't respect you, who shuts down her sex drive after marriage, who constantly thinks about the alphas she used to bang and gets upset at the beta male she settled for sure does sound fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 04:36 PM
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The relevant analysis is actually behind a pay-wall on another article, but it found that divorce rates for virgin males were 10% lower than they were for virgin females. Oh so we can't actually see the details, how convenient. Worthless Arbitrary. Yes i'm sure 1989/1990 data from Côte d'Ivoire is super relevant to 2015 America. There's reaching and there's what you just did right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 04:23 PM
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This survey found a correlation between divorce and premarital sex for women. The correlation was stronger for men than it was for women. Point to the relevant portions Data from Côte d'Ivoire, Tanzania, Lusaka and Thailand Worthless Analysis was performed on data collected in the Global Programme on AIDS/WHO programme of stratified probability sample surveys of sexual behaviour of men and women aged 15 to at least 49 years interviewed face to face in 1989/1990. Worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 04:00 PM
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Exactly. One study is not enough to eatablish this as fact, especially when there are arguably studies with conflicting results. The overwhelming majority of studies back it up, what are you smoking: http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2har17/why_does_trp_disparage_sluts/ckqzn57 And women should avoid aluts for LTRs either way. If slutty men are more likely to get divorced and more likely to have problematic marriages, then you can apply the same logic to them. Except the problem is…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 03:36 PM
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then why are women over 30 so undesirable? It's not JUST physical appearance. A woman that old is likely to have had so much cock/so many pump and dumps that she's jaded and can't pair bond. "In our sample, only 23 percent of the individuals who got married over the course of the study had had sex solely with the person they married. That minority of men and women reported higher marital quality than those who had had sex with other partners prior to marriage. We further found that the more sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 03:17 PM
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That's far from established. Do you just ignore stuff on purpose? "We further found that the more sexual partners a woman had had before marriage, the less happy she reported her marriage to be. This association was not statistically significant for men." Or women who are emotionally damaged had sex really young. Correlation and causation doesn't really matter from a practical matter for men. Men should avoid sluts for LTR's EITHER WAY.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 03:15 PM
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Did you read that part? There are also plenty of other studies that show men with premarital sex partners are more likely to get divorced. It's pretty well established at this point. And? The downside risk is still much much higher for women. That's the important point. Not sure what this has to do with the previous post. Women who have sex when they're very young are emotionally damaged. These are the cock carousel riders everyone should avoid. Women simply can't handle having sex with many par…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 03:00 PM
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But what I don't get is, if every woman hits this wall then doesn't that necessarily mean that the man she "locked down" in her early twenties will stop being sexually attracted to her as well? From my perspective, if i married a young woman who pair bonded with me, I wouldn't just dump her when she's in her mid 30's. I'd appreciate and recognize that she chose me when she could have had many other men vs. the 30 year old cock carousel rider who "chose" me because she's desperate that fewer and …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 02:58 PM
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Shrug, being a provider is the most damaging gender role, especially when the economy is turning more and more to shit each generation. Men who can't provide are depressed/turn to suicide, etc. TRP is a net positive for men even if your assertion that TRP is enhancing gender roles is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 02:40 PM
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Explain to me why having a job is important for a man, but not a woman from the opposite gender's perspective. Obvious Answer: Most western Women are materialistic status seeking whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 02:38 PM
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But all three are true for men as well No, it's not "In our sample, only 23 percent of the individuals who got married over the course of the study had had sex solely with the person they married. That minority of men and women reported higher marital quality than those who had had sex with other partners prior to marriage. We further found that the more sexual partners a woman had had before marriage, the less happy she reported her marriage to be. This association was not statistically signifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 02:35 PM
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Interesting men don't really have this view like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 06:20 AM
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Yup, women crave status. They want the biggest house they can get in the nicest town, the nicest car, the nicest clothes. If they can't marry an alpha who gives them vaginal tingles, the beta with lots of money will do just nicely. This is fucking slavery for men and should be avoided at all costs. And these women probably look down on prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 05:20 AM
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Because men know that women who sleep with a lot of men prior to marriage a) Are more likely to be 'alpha widows' b) Are less able to pair bond with their partners and as a result c) Become unhappy in their marriage. Edit: Forgot, women contract STD's much easier than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 04:24 AM
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imply you want them to be the provider. Actually, it's worse than that, it's not merely about having a job for basic necessities, it's to maximize the status seeking material goods a typical western woman is looking for (ostensibly, she has her own job, as a 'strong independent woman', as well). A western woman trying to maximize the nicest house in the nicest town, nicest car, nicest clothes, nicest vacations/'experiences', etc. = slavery for her potential beta husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 04:09 AM
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The problem in your theory is that you assume women want you to be the provider. http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/09/24/record-share-of-americans-have-never-married/ "Never-married women place a great deal of importance on finding someone who has a steady job—fully 78% say this would be very important to them in choosing a spouse or partner. The new Pew Research survey findings suggest that never-married women place a high premium on finding a spouse with a steady job. However, the changes in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 03:39 AM
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There are positive and negative gender roles. TRP focuses on positive gender roles for men - namely ones that focus on male freedom. the whole sub is about being the most stereotypical, masculine, frame-maintaining alpha that you can be. Men can't be weak because it's their role to be strong, at all times. It's the woman's job to be submissive and your co-pilot/first mate whatever the fuck. And? Strength (mental/spiritual/physical) is a virtue, if that's a gender role, that's a positive one and …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 03:28 AM
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Yet another reason to extinguish traditional roles. That is exactly what TRP is doing: Forgoing marriage IS extinguishing gender roles. No woman is ever going to get my monetary support and if i ever fall on hard times (which i won't because i don't employ status seeking consumption to impress women and i save like crazy), i will never have to deal with a woman who loses respect as a provider. I'd rather be the lover than be some chump slave to a typical American Woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 03:10 AM
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I don't care about BP, they have no affect on me, i live my life the way i want and if that makes them angry, too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 12:15 AM
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Your points are garbage though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 04:16 AM
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"hypothetical"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 04:06 AM
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But that's what i've been talking about the entire time, and feminists hold onto the stat in an incredibly dishonest way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 03:57 AM
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Pretty sure 77 cents on the dollar is a completely incorrect statistic based on the way feminists use it, based on ... evidence, the bane of all feminists everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 03:54 AM
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Yeah her name is June. Boxxy is 'catherine' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxxy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 03:48 AM
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Sometimes it makes sense to take a middle ground, sometimes it makes sense to take the extreme position. If 2 people are arguing that the earth is either flat or round, would you just split the difference and argue that the earth is oval? This is why i don't respect feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 03:47 AM
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i don't think that's boxxy, but it's kinda funny, they refer to her as 'hot boxxy'. Maybe i'm wrong though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 03:42 AM
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Yes, god forbid one uses facts and logic rather than parroting faulty statistics over and over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 03:42 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE29WXXT17Q A woman with the capacity for logic and being able to think with her brain rather than her gut. Although that's rare enough that maybe that's not 'normal' either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/15 03:35 AM
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The thing is, CHS is hated by most people who identify as "feminist". She's not a 3rd waver while most self identified feminists are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 05:31 PM
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Of course i don't agree with everything TRP says, however, you're trying to imply that there's a loud obnoxious minority of feminists when in fact that overwhelming majority of feminists (or at least the ones that actually get shit done) are loud, obnoxious, misandrists. Don't believe me? Look at how they wielded enough political power to get college campuses to strip away due process and presumption of innocence for men. If you believed in equality, you would never identify as a feminist nowada…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 04:52 PM
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Mainstream feminists don't give a damn about what happens in more backwards societies, they're busy lying about the wage gap, campus sexual assaults, and making sure people don't get triggered by clapping sounds and instead using 'jazz hands' http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/24/feminist-conference-says-clapping-triggers-anxiety/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 04:28 PM
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Yes, they're either ignoring the rules or they're unaware of them. It's almost like this same conversation happens every single day multiple times and your rules aren't working either way you look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 04:19 PM
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BAHAHAHAAH, WHAT. D1 Football players are at the top of the hierarchy. They get the most women. I've actually been to a D1 Football party. You have no idea what you're talking about. There aren't 'cliques' in the sense that there isn't tension between groups, but frat boys are going to hang with frat boys, football players are going to hang with football players, nerds are going to hang with nerds (i was friends with a bunch of engineering frat guys), etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 01:16 PM
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Did you go to college ... at all? Let me guess, you think the D1 football players are just like everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 04:59 AM
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I'm talking college. If you were a drug dealer, you were connected with all the popular students. LMAO, there are hardly any drug dealers in selling drugs in high school compared to college, get out of here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 04:27 AM
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People aren't reading your rules because your rules are terrible. Really the only rule should be the post is on topic and no flame wars. Nobody real gives a flip about the other silly ass rules that make absolutely no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 03:48 AM
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What drug use? Drug use is a deal breaker for a lot of women. LMAO, wtf are you smoking, the drug dealer at my school got the HOTTEST women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 03:45 AM
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So are you actually going to help him or are you just going to drive the OP to people who WILL help him (aka TRP?) like a typical BPer does?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/15 03:21 AM
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So basically this http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/opinion/sunday/judith-shulevitz-hiding-from-scary-ideas.html
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 05:34 PM
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Yes and now mainstream feminism = middle class/upper middle class white women who whine about bullshit (NO CLAPPING HANDS USE JAZZ HANDS PLEASE).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 05:02 PM
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But a comment that agrees with the OP isn't an argument at all. We want actual arguments in top level comments. And? It enhances the OP's argument and sheds new light. That is valuable. But the rules are enforced both ways. Hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 04:37 PM
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Debate the points not the author's personal views which have nothing to do with the video.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 04:33 PM
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You might be surprised but people read through the whole threads. If your argument can't withstand scrutiny, then maybe it doesn't deserve to be at the top. Your rules are basically, 'let me find a way to punish people's views i don't like', let's be honest here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 04:30 PM
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Again, your guidelines are terrible and you turn threads into terrible messes
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 04:28 PM
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Oh, i'm sorry, is there something preventing the opposite side from replying? Stop giving crutches to people who don't know what they're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 04:25 PM
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[deleted][deleted][deleted][deleted] Yeah, it's not that subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 04:23 PM
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And? It's fucking insightful and adds to the conversation. If the opposite side can't come up with a rebuttle, then that might say something about the other side's position. Why the fuck does EVERY single thread have to have to have an opposite side that can respond with something worthwhile? Sometimes the opposite side is weak as fuck. Your rules, quite honestly, are terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 04:20 PM
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Maybe your rules need changing because PP has become less and less useful over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 04:18 PM
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Boy it sure is great seeing all these deleted comments throughout the whole frigging thread and not being able to know the context. Stop overmoderating everything to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 03:51 PM
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How the flying flip was that post a 'circle jerk'? It's the most insiteful post in this thread from someone who actually does what BP says and went to therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 03:28 PM
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It was a good and insightful comment, from someone who needs a lot of help, this rule fucking sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 03:21 PM
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How does the existence of ugly men who can't get laid make you jump to this conclusion? I said intrinsically. And it's not just ugly men either. If the woman i'm currently fucking starts beating me, nobody is going to care or run to my defense. Hell, they might even laugh at me. But if i so much as harm a hair on her, I would suddenly become a pariah/threat to society and everyone would run to her defense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNrWuZV3jjw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3PgH86OyEM In…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 02:46 PM
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Your jaguar comparison would make more sense if you spent your youth smoking crack all day rather than working for a job so you could buy a jaguar.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 03:30 AM
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More women wanting marriage than before, fewer men wanting marriage before: irrelevant stats. The Blue Pill, folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 11:31 PM
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It's BP that doesn't have the reading comprehension. Some of you guys even think the majority don't want marriage based on the stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 06:58 PM
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Your wishful thinking is exactly why men are opting out of marriage. Women wouldn't have to settle if they had more wisdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 06:58 PM
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The bottom of the barrel= "80% of men" in her opinion. You're thinking short term flings, not marriage. Women punch way above their weight when it comes to not-commited sex, but the thing is, men who would otherwise be their equals are going to make up for lost time when THEY hit their 30's, not settle down for some dumb cunt who threw her youth away.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 06:39 PM
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No, it's not 'both parties', just because women don't want to marry the bottom of the barrel, you can't say it's an equal action. Men are the ones pulling out first, so women's 'equals' are saying no before they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 06:08 PM
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There's an oversupply of beta men with good jobs who would treat women like princesses under better circumstances (aka women not acting like entitled cunts). However, a lot of these men are waking up. It's the MEN who are walking away first. That's the point. MEN are the ones who give commitment, not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 05:57 PM
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Because the 'good men' are opting out of marriage and aren't lamenting the fact. You don't seem to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 05:33 PM
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Yet only one side bitches about 'where have all the good men gone'?!!? and even writes articles about it when they've hit the wall. Curious, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:57 PM
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OP is saying that women view marriage as a bad deal as well. OP is not saying that women do not want to get married. The reality is women probably do want to get married, but they aren't finding it adding value to their lives, so they opt out. Your whole post is one big contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:53 PM
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You would seriously share a home with a woman who you are only fucking and have no romantic attachment to? Please tell me where i said there was no romantic attachment. Why does BP feel the need to make shit up. Sharing a home definitely implies commitment in a very real sense. You live under the same roof, likely both pitch in to pay rent and bills and the like, and if you were to split up one of you would have to find a new place to live, cough up the costs of doing that, move all your shit ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:46 PM
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How is this 'most'? http://www.unmarried.org/common-law-marriage-fact-sheet/ And some of those states only count if before a certain date. Are facts like kryptonite to BP or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:42 PM
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Don't be so sure, a lot of these men are successful, but don't want a screeching harpy american woman as a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:29 PM
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What importance are we placing on the word "successful"? As we all know, some women want an unsuccessful marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:28 PM
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But women still put it as one of the most important things in her life, moreso than previous generations. There's a huge disconnect, which is why marriage rates are plummeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:27 PM
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which is that both men & women of younger generations place less value on marriage than older generations. My study contradicts your claim
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:26 PM
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http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/32osn4/we_all_know_that_marriage_rates_are_plummeting/cqd8xe5
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:09 PM
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do not view marriage as particularly important. "is one of the most important things in their lives" does not mean the opposite of 'not particularly important'. It could still be important but not at the very top of the list. Also the importance has gone UP for women and DOWN for men. Trends. I wish BPers would learn reading comprehension. It would be so much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:07 PM
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You won't live with a woman who was just a fuckbuddy. Of course you would, men would do lots of shit to get sex. However, cohabitation gives men an out. If the sex dries up, if the bitch acts like a bitch, they don't have to go through a messy divorce, sharing children, and giving half their earnings to a screeching harpy. That's not really 'commitment'.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:05 PM
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Women are the ones who want marriage more, that's why men are the gatekeepers of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:03 PM
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You don't seem to understand things http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/young-men-and-women-differ-on-the-importance-of-a-successful-marriage/ "The share of young men (ages 18 to 34) who say that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things in their lives has dropped six percentage points since 1997, from 35% to 29%. For women, the opposite effect occurred, as the share voicing this opinion rose from 28% to 37%." Cohabitation rates are going up because men aren't committi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:54 PM
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If men aren't willing to commit, it's not surprising that cohabitation rates are rising. Women dole out sex, men dole out commitment. Sex isn't drying up, commitment sure as fuck is. You don't seem to understand that men have to agree to get married. Just because a woman wants marriage doesn't mean they magically do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:53 PM
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Great, your anecdotes mean nothing: http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/young-men-and-women-differ-on-the-importance-of-a-successful-marriage/ "The share of young men (ages 18 to 34) who say that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things in their lives has dropped six percentage points since 1997, from 35% to 29%. For women, the opposite effect occurred, as the share voicing this opinion rose from 28% to 37%." It's hilarious how BP downvotes inconvenient facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:44 PM
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Great, your anecdotes mean nothing: http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/young-men-and-women-differ-on-the-importance-of-a-successful-marriage/ "The share of young men (ages 18 to 34) who say that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things in their lives has dropped six percentage points since 1997, from 35% to 29%. For women, the opposite effect occurred, as the share voicing this opinion rose from 28% to 37%."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:40 PM
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"You mean i can spend tens of thosuands of dollars for a piece of paper and you might divorce me and take half my stuff? SIGN ME THE FUCK UP!" - Said no man ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:40 PM
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isn't it possible that women are losing interest in marriage to a similar extent? No. Lets get back to reality here: http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/young-men-and-women-differ-on-the-importance-of-a-successful-marriage/ "The share of young men (ages 18 to 34) who say that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things in their lives has dropped six percentage points since 1997, from 35% to 29%. For women, the opposite effect occurred, as the share voicing this opinion r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:38 PM
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So, if you had a choice between a woman with a high partner count and a low partner count, all else being equal, you wouldn't RUN to the low partner count woman? more feminist views of the SOURCE of the low self-esteem. Also, stop blaming patriarchy for everything. And feminists still use faulty statistics about rape on campus and the 'wage gap', why are you still listening to feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:37 PM
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The overwhelming majority of divorces are initiated by women. Women are less happy in marriages if they're sluts. Men should totally ignore this because reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:33 PM
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Unclear on the deception part She deceived the husband into believing that she's marrying him because she loves him/is attracted to him/will be happy with him when in reality she's desperate. This "no one can judge me" worldview is a bit childish. Huh? I'm judging sluts pretty harsh here. As they should be judged.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:26 PM
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Do you want to marry someone with low self esteem?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:18 PM
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Yes, because self esteem in women goes up as their partner count goes up. That's sarcasm btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:17 PM
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The blogspots LINK to the studies, are you that lazy not to click on them? Jesus. Also: Results indicated that boys with high self-esteem were 2.4 times more likely to initiate intercourse than their peers with low self-esteem. High self-esteem had the opposite influence on girls, who reportedly were three times more likely to remain virgins than girls with low self-esteem. Fifty percent of the boys with high self-esteem in seventh grade had sex by ninth grade, compared to only 29 percent of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:09 PM
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i posted that study as it's own thread before we ever debated about it and said it was worse for women, so stop relying on your subjective mental beliefs and use your eyes and look at my post history... if you care about what's actually true. 1) Your studies had nothing to do with mine, it was nonsensical to respond with your studies 2) Interesting how when i pointed it out you didn't mention that you mentioned it before... it's almost like you're making shit up now. male sluts are damaged. they…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:06 PM
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So you're not willing to blame the woman for deceptively snagging the beta man into marriage? Interesting. Get better at it, or find a woman who's polite enough not to point out that you're doing it wrong. See, this is where we diverge, the REAL solution isn't to find a woman who's 'compatible', the REAL solution is to avoid marriage and LTR's altogether, because men really don't know until they've been married for a while if they've been suckered by a slut who doesn't respect them. THIS is the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:00 PM
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that's not true, read my post history. i just didn't mention it every single time and you freaked out about it once. what's your excuse for pushing non peer reviewed articles as real science? not once disclosing that article has issues? is that about ignorance about the evidence you rely on or conscientious denial? Somehow, i don't think the University of Virginia is pushing out 'fake science'. You didn't mention that it affects women WORSE until i pointed it to you, it was quite obvious you did…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 02:56 PM
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Multiple studies corroborate the study i posted: http://socialpathology.blogspot.com.tr/2010/09/sexual-partner-divorce-risk.html?_sm_au_=iMV3r5rNqqDjfRFq http://socialpathology.blogspot.com.tr/2012/03/sexual-history-divorce-risk-ii.html?_sm_au_=iMV3r5rNqqDjfRFq http://socialpathology.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/promiscuity-data-guest-post.html?_sm_au_=iMV3r5rNqqDjfRFq http://socialpathology.blogspot.com.tr/2010/09/statistical-adjustments-to-promiscuity.html?_sm_au_=iMV3r5rNqqDjfRFq http://s3.amazona…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 02:54 PM
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That's her husband's failing then, isn't it? The woman being desperate to find a man to marry once she starts getting older and later in marriage getting bitter because her husband doesn't stack up is the HUSBAND'S fault?!!?!? We really do live in a feminist society. Seems a little shady to me to try and find a girl with a low partner count just because you might not be as good a lover as someone else she's been with. Again, read above, seems shady for a woman to do the most depraved sexual acts…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 02:44 PM
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It doesn't matter because in a pairing with 2 high sexual partners, the women will most likely be unhappy while the man wouldn't be. His study has nothing to do with mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 02:34 PM
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How is it statistically significant for women except in terms of the man she's married to now may not be better at X than one of her previous lovers or her husband is irritated at her number and constantly complains about it? Yes, because a boyfriend who's put off by his GF's number is going to marry her. Alpha Widows are a smarter explanation of why high count women would be unhappy in a marriage with a man who doesn't just compare with the alphas she's used to. http://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPil…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 02:29 PM
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It said it's not statistically significant for men while it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 02:20 PM
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Just a note: Taiboworks used to leave out that last part until i pointed it out to him/her. Taibo doesn't actually read the articles he/she posts. Also, why does it matter if partners match on partner count? Men aren't affected with high partner counts while women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 01:51 PM
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(1) A core assumption of TRP seems to be that women lose the ability to "pair bond" or settle down after a few sexual partners. Is there any research to back that up? Is there any research that concludes that men are able to "pair bond" after many partners? For the millionth time i've posted this: http://nationalmarriageproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NMP-BeforeIDoReport-Final.pdf "But that’s not most people. In our sample, only 23 percent of the individuals who got married over the cours…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 01:03 PM
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You're proving the solipsistic nature of women. "Me", "I", "Me", "I". Statistics bear it out, marriage is more important to women than men and marriage rates are plummeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 12:15 PM
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Rarely. And they sure as fuck don't get foreign men. Or in your mind, you think foreign men are lining up to marry that 40 year old American spinster.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:59 AM
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Yes, because American women are going to South America, Asia, and Eastern Europe for men like American men do. This is why BP is a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:25 AM
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It's common fucking sense. Even if it means going outside the country to marry a foreigner (women won't do this).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:06 AM
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'Ladies' don't care. Until they're lonely cat ladies at 35
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 04:04 AM
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BP is supposedly for making fun of and laughing at terpers, but now it's 'shock value'. You're just typing random words at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:08 AM
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Yet you spend your time on a sub whose "comedy" is basically centered on stupid feminist beliefs against reality. Imagine that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:04 AM
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Because there's no such thing (feminists aren't funny).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 03:00 AM
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No, i'm pretty sure your taste in comedy is garbage. There are no good feminist comedians btw. BP says 'we don't have an ideolgoy' because you don't want to be attacked. You don't offer a better alternative. But of course we can make fun of BP as well, because ,for example, many of you suggest Dr. Nerdlove is a good alternative to TRP, but Dr. Nerdlove advocates being a feminist and 'ally' to get laid, which is the dumbest fucking advice ever and has to be some sort of anti-feminist joke you guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 02:58 AM
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Hahahaha, yeah ok, since when does BP believe social science when it goes against your beliefs? Also, saying BP doesn't have an agenda/ideology is a copout, there's a clear feminist bias with BPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 02:54 AM
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Show us your version of Bill Burr and Patrice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/15 02:27 AM
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Studies have shown that the most important thing for a long term mate for a woman is a man with a JOB. There are going to be lots of disappointed women thanks to feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 07:32 PM
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I have to question the intelligence of what we deem as 'intelligent' women who can't seem to figure out that they do everything in their power to drive away men who might otherwise want to settle down with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 07:28 PM
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Actually, i care, because it's fucking true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 07:26 PM
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You, considering you're posting in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 06:55 PM
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This was on Jezebel. JE. ZE. BEL. Who gives a shit, feminists routinely shame sex workers. No I don't remember it because I don't vote. Of course you don't. http://www.npr.org/2012/04/17/150803660/rosens-words-about-ann-romney-fuel-mommy-wars
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 06:52 PM
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Feminists passed judgement on a) Women who do sex work and b) women who are stay at home moms (remember Mitt Romney's wife during the election and feminists shaming her for 'never working'?)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 06:40 PM
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it's supposed to be funny they're failing their objective hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 01:33 PM
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I can, there have been studies that have shown that women who have sexual partners who just pump and dump them have lower self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:47 AM
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She should go for a religious man. There are some very attractive men who are saving themselves as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/15 02:46 AM
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I dunno, for some reason, you think alphas are loud apes. I personally try to emulate James Bond (or for a real life example: Elliot Hulse)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 03:58 PM
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I also prefer laid back self-assured men to an arrogant player type. So you like Alpha+ (James Bond) rather than Alpha- (Jersey Shore) type men. Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/15 03:43 PM
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Who will support the old when the young realize that they are being taxed not for their own benefit but as a wealth transfer from the young to old? When the population starts to decline (IIRC, around 2050), the young will withdraw from the workforce when it becomes meaningless to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 07:44 PM
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I think there are more good women than TRP lets on, however, it's still a good policy to believe in AWALT (until proven otherwise) as a defensive method to protect yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 06:12 PM
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They're sluts. Also, they're attention whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 05:47 PM
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There is no BP method. BP isn't a thing. It only exists to make fun of RP. Stop treating it like a thing. Lets stop pretending that there isn't an agreement amongst BP of what 'works' (i.e. Dr. Nerdlove's terrible advice) and the fact that there's a feminist bias in your group.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 05:43 PM
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I think i accidentally voted on something after going through an outside link to reddit from twitter or something, got shadowbanned, didn't bother asking an admin to unban me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 04:19 PM
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yeah i am, but i'm not a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 01:26 PM
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See: plummeting marriage rates today vs. 50 years ago. It's feminism/women driving this. They are the ones discarding.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 09:16 PM
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I'm a pragmatic man. With the exception of feminism and a couple other idiotic things in the movement, i consider myself quite progressive. If being a card carrying feminist made me successful with women, made me more successful in life overall, and didn't have any direct or indirect harm to me, you would see me donating to NOW faster than you could say "AWALT".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:45 PM
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I wouldn't even wait till college, that's already handicapping him. I'd give him my copy of Starting Strength at around age 12, have him eat like a monster, and lift like one as well, all compound exercises at first before adding isolation lifts. Puberty is when you should focus most on self improvement/lifting. You're basically on mother nature's steroids. After that, i'd teach him to dress well, don't let your libido enslave you to women/put them dead last and put improving yourself at the for…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 07:01 PM
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Well, he's dead now. Oh boo hoo, women get shown interest all the time, i'm sure they were crying in their wine when that happened to them just once in their lives. I'm sure you show the same concern when women call unnattractive men 'creepy' when they merely show interest, all the fucking time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:45 PM
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Because women do it to men all the time and men never do it to women. It's a small karmic rebalancing. He used to be a scrawny nerd who was abused by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 06:31 PM
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Yes it does, because, again We further found that the more sexual partners a woman had had before marriage, the less happy she reported her marriage to be. This association was not statistically significant for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:45 PM
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Doesn't change the fact that women are affected more, in a vacuum and not on a relative level, by being a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:32 PM
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you tune out the male negative. on a relative basis, men are better than women. If you can't figure that out, i'm going to ask YOU 'is that how your brain works'?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:31 PM
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well, we have dueling studies on this topic that conclude different things. i'll wait for a meta study on this topic and see what it finds. will you do the same? or will you just stick to the study that confirms your belief? We're posting studies on different things. You posted shit on 'substance abuse' when that doesn't have anything to do with relations between gender. MY study has EVERYTHING to do with that. You can 'abuse' substances and still be in a good relationship. This is exactly why s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:28 PM
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Do you expect me to stop being attracted to conventionally beautiful women just because, by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:23 PM
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Stop pretending the effects are the same in men and women. Everything is WORSE for women because they are mentally/psychologically weak. Also: We further found that the more sexual partners a woman had had before marriage, the less happy she reported her marriage to be. This association was not statistically significant for men. That's the most important part.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:20 PM
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Because you didn't read your own damn link. Women are weak as shit, funny how you left that part out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:19 PM
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you know men with lots of partners are more likely to have substance abuse issues, more likely to be unhappy in relationships, more likely to cheat (basically the same issues that women with lots of partners have)... is that success? https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201304/the-lingering-psychological-effects-multiple-sex-partners I just want to point out that this is the link taiboworks used to backup his/her claims about 'substance abuse' in another thread: For both men …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:18 PM
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lol, do you even read your own shit? For both men and women, taking into account prior psychological disorders, the odds of developing substance dependence increased virtually linearly with the number of sex partners. The relationship was particularly pronounced, however, for women. Thanks for the link though, i'm going to save it in my bookmarks. >:)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 05:14 PM
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You should write a book. Women have no good role models these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 03:55 AM
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It doesn't matter if you can't prove correlation or causation, because you'd be stupid to marry a woman with a high partner count either way. Why the fuck would a man marry a woman with a high partner count if he has a problem with it and resent them for it? That makes no fucking sense. Here are concrete attributes: Women don't handle having a high partner count well, it makes them jaded. There was another study that showed women who slept with a man but that man left soon after affected women's…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 03:27 AM
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Go ask TRP, they mention over and over again that they don't do 'recruiting'. Whoever naturally comes over is welcomed with open arms though. TRP isn't one of the fastest growing subs because men are doing outreach, it's because feminists are fucking men over and whenever another subreddit trashes TRP or bans TRP talk, TRP gets a huge influx of new users because of the Streisand effect. Remember that EMSK post where that user who created /r/punchingmorpheus made a super popular post about how TR…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 03:21 AM
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Here, go save the world: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNrWuZV3jjw All i hear from feminists who say they care about men's issues too is absolute bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 03:16 AM
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Oh and i don't really care about recruits, hell, the fewer there are, the easier it is for the rest of us RPers. Hordes of betas make it easy to score.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 03:14 AM
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lol, of course you don't give a rat's ass when men get hurt, because they're disposable. It's funny, but you're actually the more sexist one, you assume women are weak and can't handle a man like zyzz, when zyzz gives them exactly what they want. You do realize that women laugh at you behind your back when you prostrate yourself for them, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 03:06 AM
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This has been posted so many god damned times: http://nationalmarriageproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NMP-BeforeIDoReport-Final.pdf But that’s not most people. In our sample, only 23 percent of the individuals who got married over the course of the study had had sex solely with the person they married. That minority of men and women reported higher marital quality than those who had had sex with other partners prior to marriage. We further found that the more sexual partners a woman had h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:59 AM
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You used men who 'settled down' super late in life and used to be manwhores, you should do a better job.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:52 AM
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As a general rule, yes. They don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:43 AM
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Also, Brad Pitt was such a risk taking player earlier in his day, he once cucked Mike Tyson when he was fucking Robin Givens behind his back, think of that for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:40 AM
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They're also old as shit. Also LOL George Clooney is the worst fucking example, he WAS like the ultimate manwhore. IIRC, Eric clapton slept with 6000 women and he gave up sex because he got real fucking sick of it after all that. 100% of alphas aren't going to be manwhores, and some of them quit later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:37 AM
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Reasonably high caliber guy is not going to enter into a monogamous relationship. The smart ones get married and use their beauty to their advantage. There's a chart showing how marriage of those in their early 20's to early 30's has plummeted from the 50's. There are very few smart beautiful women in LTR's (and i mean marriage btw, getting dumped after a couple years of dating is still worthless for those women in the long run).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:30 AM
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Who had an unbelievable amount of sex. There are some other good videos of him where he just walks into a room or a parade or a rave or whatever, does his stupid poses/acts like a bit of a monkey and has women getting their panties wet all over him. He gets physical with random girls, picks them up, grabs their asses, etc. and they're ECSTATIC. If a random guy did that, they'd be rapists. It's funny how you have to assign a negative label to someone who was incredibly successful with women just …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:26 AM
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Think of Zyzz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbB7mX2xgMw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HusjPd5HMBY He used to pick up hot girls at clubs, get them all hot and horny, then say shit like, 'just kidding i'm too hot for you' and dump them on the spot just to let girls know how it feels when they reject men. The guy's a fucking hero of mine and i lift like crazy because he inspires me. Edit: If there were ever a case for moderate steroid use, it's him (although i don't do it myself). He went from …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:19 AM
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Yes, a c-list model that i've never heard of and most people haven't either. Bar Raefeli she is not. Zoe Quinn also has a wiki page and she's far more famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:07 AM
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Nope, because 'reasonably high caliber guy' is still going to fuck around. It's a coordination problem coupled with hypergamy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO1ifNaNABY
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:06 AM
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yet have the foresight and distance to be ready to trade up whenever a better man comes along just doesn't make sense It's a bad strategy, because there will ALWAYS be someone better. Except, while she's doing that, she becomes more jaded, older, and worth less than she was before. Then when she starts to expire (i.e. late 20's/early 30's), she has to start lowering expectations more and more, making her more bitter. The optimal strategy is going after a man who's just a tad bit better than you …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:05 AM
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I've never heard of Melyssa Ford before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvewLbzKmMw
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 02:00 AM
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Men in college aren't going for LTRs A significant number of men in college are getting left out in the cold even when the gender ratio favors them greatly http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2yipqi/from_the_new_york_times_women_are_suffering/ Dating a religious guy at least guarantees you won't get pumped and dumped. And if you have girl game (i.e. not being a total fucking bitch, but someone who submits to her man and makes him better), you have a much greater chance at securing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 01:58 AM
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It's a sliding scale. Merely pretty girls still have to date down to secure an LTR. Watch the video in the 2nd link, that's merely a c list model, Melyssa Ford is her name i believe, and she laments all the losers she has to date because she can't get someone on her level to commit. She readily admits those men are fucking several women at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 01:55 AM
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http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3222wr/how_can_women_deal_with_their_hypergamy/cq78mfc http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3222wr/how_can_women_deal_with_their_hypergamy/cq78umo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 01:52 AM
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I'm talking about TRULY beautiful women, queen of the hill, not your garden variety pretty girl. And hypergamy/sluttery affects those girls too, but not as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 01:26 AM
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Example: Leonardo Di Caprio used to date Bar Raefeli, now he has a harem of nobody women he fucks: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/26/article-2331383-1A03D765000005DC-926_634x384.jpg Bar Raefeli couldn't find a man for quite a while: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/super-model-rafaeli-laments-single-status-article-1.1489317 Because women date up, not down, and there are hardly any men that are even on her level. The men that are on her level have no reason to commit to her…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 01:19 AM
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You don't understand high smv women and hypergamy at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 01:10 AM
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Well, go watch the video, i haven't watched the vid in a wihle and i'm in class, she lists a bunch and doesn't want to go back to being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 01:06 AM
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i didn't read her book, they're just facts. One of the biggest privileges that she cites that women have over men is dating though. There were some others, just look up her name on youtube, there's a long video of her from 20/20. She realizes how much harder it is for men than it is for women and realizes being a woman is much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 12:54 AM
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They have a good relationship. Now ask the beta today and the used up slut if they're leading good lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 12:40 AM
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I'd go farther than that, Hypergamy and stable relationships only work when women agree to the same rules as a WHOLE GROUP. It's a coordination problem. That's why beautiful women, especially, who want LTR's get screwed hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/15 12:22 AM
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no, but there's a long video of her on youtube.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 11:53 PM
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I'm trying to think of what i would do if i were in a woman's shoes. I would look for a good mate while i still retained my beauty, so i'd marry young (maybe even try to find my mate in college). I'd go after a slightly above average looking beta who works hard and has good values and maybe try to help mold some alpha characteristics in him. Edit: I would seriously consider looking for a man in a church too. Funny thing, typing that out, i just realized that i described my mother and father. Bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 11:52 PM
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What's there to elaborate? Women can stay at home or go to work with little to no penalty. There are extremely few women who would be attracted to a man who is a stay at home dad. Men who lose their jobs are more likely to have a divorce while women don't have such penalty. Men who get their asses beat by a woman in public will have the public laugh at them, men who beat women in public will get their asses kicked. Men are incarcerated 63% longer than women for the exact same crime. Just a coupl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 11:37 PM
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IME I have witnessed more of my guy friends NOT date a woman because his friends didn't approve of her level of attractiveness. Seriously. I just yelled at one my of college friends about this. Men are not going to give up pussy just because his friends say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 01:59 PM
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You're forgetting the part where i wrote that men are wising up. Read this article: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/society-and-culture/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 01:58 PM
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They care. Not if he's hot enough. You're basically agreeing with AFBB. He will settle on something. We're changing that. Our biggest trump card is our commitment. If we never give that up, we never settle. See: plummeting marriage rates. Women/feminists have nobody to blame but themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 01:44 PM
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Powerlifters are often fat. Should have been a semi-serious bodybuilder bro. If you want to lift weights, you do it for aesthetics, not power, duh. See: Zyzz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYqe0R_pBm4 He used to be scrawny and unnattractive, but he took his aesthetic bodybuild VERY seriously (though he did reportedly do steroids too). When he developed himself, he used to attract hot girls in clubs and drop them telling them that they're not hot enough for him just to teach them a lesson for al…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 01:38 PM
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My comment was about what women find attractive. And IT IS NOT HIS PARTNER COUNT. But ultimately women generally don't care about a man's partner count, just his hotness. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 01:34 PM
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You just admitted that women are sluts for the top percentage of attractive guys who themselves are sluts. Why on earth would any other man want to marry them after they're done with the 'hot guys'?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 01:28 PM
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I like how BPers make up these outlandish examples as if they apply to anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 01:26 PM
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And this is why it makes 0 sense to marry any woman. Women should just be pumped and dumped and let them rot as lonely cat ladies later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 01:23 PM
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Yes because there aren't a TON of studies that back it up: http://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2j11pt/women_with_premarital_sexual_partners_and_those/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/15 01:20 PM
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Take it to it's logical conclusion. If you donate a lot of money and vote for feminists, you are a great feminist ally who should be swimming in pussy... any... minute... now
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 11:58 PM
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Oh we're strawmanning in this thread? He's not, dr nerdlove actually advocates becoming a 'feminist ally' to get laid and it gets eaten up by idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 11:41 PM
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But if feminism means equality of opportunity as opposed to straight gender equivalence, wouldn't that allow for the sort of sexual dynamic you describe? Feminists say they want 'equal' relationships (which is of course, bullshit)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 09:59 PM
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Feminism and TRP are still at odds with each other, because for a man to attract a woman, the man and woman would be naturally unequal to each other. The woman would HAVE to look up to the man and the man would HAVE to look down.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 06:52 PM
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lifting and becoming confident cannot be exclusively claimed by TRP. TRP runs counter to the idiodicy that feminist proclaim you should be in order to attract women. Dr. Nerdlove, without a hint of joking, seriously said that you should be a feminist ally to 'get laid'. Most 'feminist approved' suggestions have nothing to do with actually attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 04:51 PM
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AKA hypergamy? Take a hypothetical man who is a 10. He sleeps with a bunch of 6's. That's not hypergamy, that's just him not wanting to go through bullshit to sleep with his equivalent female 10 (even though he could) and wanting variety. Just because he won't sleep with a 3 is not evidence of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 02:15 PM
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LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 04:55 AM
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I don't know about why women say that they don't like female friends. Because women are mercenary as hell in just about everything and women know it and not enough men know it. Women are takers and not givers by nature. I sure as hell am not going to bother calling a female 'friend' if my car breaks down and i need a ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/15 04:55 AM
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Why are women not good as friends? Because they usually take and rarely give. briffault's law I think men inherently know that they can really only count on their male friends to have their backs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 08:46 PM
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Find some conservative gay dudes, they are down for commitment, not fucking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 03:22 AM
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Because you have a choice. The average straight man doesn't have a choice. This isn't a hard concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/15 01:12 AM
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It's better to have that option than not to have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 11:40 PM
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I always find this claim so weird. I'm gay and most of my friends are straight men, and the fact I'm attracted to their gender has never affected my ability to bond with them, so I don't get why some straight men are apparently so unable to regulate their emotions around women. That's because it's so much easier for gay men to get sex. If straight men were able to easily get sex, it would be easier for them to be friends with women they aren't having sex with. You have 0 idea how lucky you are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 09:46 PM
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Yup, lets see Ronda Roussey fight a male UFC fighter in the same weight class
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 07:43 PM
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But feminists say that most women are feminists because most women 'believe in equality', even if they don't outright identify as one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 06:17 PM
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As a side note, I love how literally the only concrete thing listed so far for TRP is "working out", while everything else is a vague epiphany. For me, i've put my happiness far above women's, that was a tremendous benefit. Being so deferential to women was a huge roadblock to my development.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 05:58 PM
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That's a pretty big chunk of women in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 05:55 PM
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what kind of women are you around? Maybe the feminist kind? http://jezebel.com/294383/have-you-ever-beat-up-a-boyfriend-cause-uh-we-have
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 05:33 PM
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This is awful advice. Look, i used to follow the 'be yourself' blue pill advice myself, but i'm far happier lifting weights, dressing better, forcing myself to be more extroverted, putting MY happiness above women's and not spending all my damn time playing video games and watching TV and being super deferential to other people (especially women). Elliot Rogers was told to just 'be yourself' all his damn life and see where that got him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 04:57 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx5FcRBikiw
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 01:48 PM
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the law is severely unbalanced and needs to be revised If/when social norms change and women become the majority breadwinner, you will see alimony go away because men are disposable and more women vote than men. Women will have a miracle 'awakening' on how unfair alimony is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/15 01:47 PM
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Note: The National Longitudinal Survey of Youth 1979 consists of men and women who were born in the years 1957–1964 and were ages 14 to 22 when first interviewed in 1979. Not representative of 35 year olds TODAY, 'genius'
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 08:11 PM
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Not really, because if marriage were really important to men over 35, women over 30 wouldn't have such a hard time finding marriage. We could probably break down those men over 35 who want marriage, but with YOUNG WOMEN. The ones who can get it, get it with those young women. The ones that can't simply stay away from the over 30's women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 07:22 PM
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Which is hilarious because i had a female boss a long time ago who said she doesn't hire women because they cause so much trouble with their bitchiness/gossiping/starting unnecessary fights/etc. and, according to her, men are more to the point, don't get offended so easily by constructive criticism, and focus more on work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 07:14 PM
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The practical matter is, for even those who are 35 or older, they will not marry, compared to previous generations. That's the important point: http://www.urban.org/UploadedPDF/413110-Fewer-Marriages-More-Divergence.pdf Declining marriage rates suggest a growing fraction of millennials will remain unmarried through age 40. In this brief, we use data from the American Community Survey to estimate age-specific marriage rates and project the percentage of millennials who will marry by age 40 in dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 07:07 PM
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It's not that they become undesireable for sex at 30, it's that everyone knows their looks have an accelerated depreciation then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 06:17 PM
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Because we all know marriage rates for women over 30 magically go up /s Guess what happens when people delay marriage: http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2011/12/14/barely-half-of-u-s-adults-are-married-a-record-low/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 06:13 PM
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So we're in agreement that those women are only good for pump and dumps, fantastic!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 04:38 PM
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lol you think women have any leverage whatsoever once they near 30 http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/society-and-culture/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 04:03 PM
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Keep telling yourself that http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/31658t/less_and_less_men_are_willing_to_marry_in_the/cpyxjys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 03:23 PM
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Nope http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/31658t/less_and_less_men_are_willing_to_marry_in_the/cpyxjys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 03:22 PM
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Keep telling yourself that. http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/31658t/less_and_less_men_are_willing_to_marry_in_the/cpyxjys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 03:22 PM
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Keep telling yourself that http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/31658t/less_and_less_men_are_willing_to_marry_in_the/cpyxjys
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 03:22 PM
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Who do you think wants marriage more, men or women? The answer is obvious. In fact, this generation's women wants marriage more than previous generations while men want it less than previous generations and it's diverging every year: http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/young-men-and-women-differ-on-the-importance-of-a-successful-marriage/ IIRC, over 90% of 20somethings to 35 year olds were married in 1950 while only 20% of the same age cohorts are married today. Lonely Cat Ladies
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 03:21 PM
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it doesn't really care if you want to check out. Sure it does. Let me quote you something, "WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD MEN GONE?!?!?!?!" says the numerous 30/40something lonely cat ladies. Sound familiar? MGTOW is a method of bringing the system down. Remember, it's women who want marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 03:17 PM
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Because you don't date them, you only fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/15 03:57 AM
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1) Just a reminder when Erin Pizzey created some of the world's first women's shelters, feminists protested her and sent her death threats when she started creating shelters for men. This is why Erin Pizzey is no longer a feminist and is now an MRA 2) Yes, we know feminists are working tirelessly to fix the imbalance in the education system between men/women, the fact that most of the homeless are men, the fact that men are suffering more economically at the bottom and middle (funny how feminist…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/15 02:24 PM
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Nobody said 100% closed trade was ideal. The overwhelming majority of wealthy countries adopted a 3rd way of development economics to get out of poverty. They used tariffs, protectionism, subsidies, etc. to develop their economy at the expense of importers. i.e. the US had tariffs as high as 30-40% during the height of their GDP growth. Japan, for example, had a really shitty auto industry, but their ministry of trade kept bailing out Toyota and imposed import quotas on US car manufacturers unti…
/r/TheRedPill31/03/15 01:29 AM
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The funny thing is, white women are the MOST privileged people on the face of the earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 11:10 PM
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The overwhelming majority of countries that became rich never got rich because of free market/free trade principles (it's only AFTER rich countries got rich that they, for example, loosened trade restrictions). "Maximum Freedom" doesn't even do a good job of maximizing economic growth. edit: because in a darwinistic sense, the species becomes more fit when only the most fit males are allowed to reproduce. Thanks to technology, the 'most fit' males AREN'T reproducing. I can't wait until vasagel b…
/r/TheRedPill30/03/15 10:50 PM
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And MGTOW is a core value of the MRA movement. You still haven't shown me how Elliot Rodgers is an MRA, outside of your twisted definition. Would you agree that PUA != MRA and Anti PUA CERTINALY doesn't equal MRA, or are you so desperate that you want to cling to that view just because you got your ass handed to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 10:21 PM
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The other thing i like is how when someone, such as yourself, runs off in a huff after being proven wrong, comes back after being proven wrong YET AGAIN. I suppose Women's Suffrage ≠ Feminism too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 09:59 PM
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I like it when people who are proven wrong, such as yourself, get flustered and cry about it then take their ball and go home. Elliot Rodgers wanted to do the OPPOSITE of what MRA's: He desperately wanted contact with women, MRA's want to limit contact with women, many want to live an ascetic lifestyle. When you have to twist definitions of words to mean the opposite, you've automatically lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 09:49 PM
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Yes, and feminism as a principle supports those women and fights for them. There's plenty of real problems that women face in America as well. No they don't, it's really conservatives who are decrying, for example, treatment of women in the muslim world. White American feminists are oddly silent on the issue. We don't know whether Elliot Rodger was mentally ill. What we do know is that he was a Men's Rights Activist, or MRA. He was an active member of the "PUAhate," an online forum (which has be…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 09:35 PM
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Mentioning foreign feminists (those quotation marks are totally unnecessary) is not a sleight of hand as you never specified that you were talking about feminism in America. I also only brought up ONE non-American feminist, Malala Yousafzai; all the others are American. It is a sleight of hand because american feminists whine about trivial bullshit while there are women in other countries with REAL problems. Get out of here. White feminism and feminism are VERY different. You cannot take an arti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 09:16 PM
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Watch Putin. Putin is an example of authoritarianism not working, unlike LKY. Singapore has some of the lowest levels of corruption in the world. Russia is MASSIVELY corrupt. In many ways, Singapore has elements of socialism in it's society. Did you know that 80% of Singaporeans live in government housing? They also have price controls on their healthcare system. The government owns a significant amount of the GDP (i.e their airline is owned by the government).
/r/TheRedPill30/03/15 02:45 PM
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lol, this is why i take issue with RP pushing political ideology (outside of everyone agreeing that feminism is garbage) even though i agree with many RP ideals. I think we can all agree that feminism is a disaster, but outside of that, the world is a complex place where you can find examples of democracy and authoritarianism working. Did you know that 80% of Singaporeans live in government housing? They also have price controls on their healthcare system. The government owns a significant amoun…
/r/TheRedPill30/03/15 04:35 AM
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When i'm talking about mainstream feminism, i'm talking about feminism in America, notice you have to bring in foreign 'feminists' as a sleight of hand. Here's the truth about how WoC view feminism (aka white feminism) in america. YOUR ignorance is showing: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/14/solidarityisforwhitewomen-hashtag-feminism SolidarityIsForWhiteWomen started in a moment of frustration. One of my good friends, Sydette Harry (aka @BlackAmazon), had been a target of Hugo …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 03:56 AM
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Same thing. Feminism is mostly an upper middle class white female movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 03:34 AM
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Why do you say that? Feminism has allowed women to live the bachelor lifestyle, or do whatever they want, and I think that's awesome. I'm a career women who doesn't want to have children, with a stable long term boyfriend. I personally feel like feminism has helped shape a society where I can happily live my life this way. Your solipsism is showing. YOU want a bachelor lifestyle. Most women want to settle down or at least get SOME sort of commitment from similarly or higher SMV men eventually. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/15 02:33 AM
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Not sure why this is on PPD. Is it because Lena Dunham is a "feminist"? (Side note: she's not. She claims to be one, but she molested her sister, the title of her book is "Not That Kind of Girl", and is completely dependent on men. All of those things are decidedly anti-feminist.) If you're going to hold feminists accountable for doing non-feminist things, there'd be no such thing as a feminist. I mean, feminists are supposedly for 'female empowerment', but feminists have turned women into perpe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 11:59 PM
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I suppose you won't ever post a youtube video ever? I like how when you lose arguments, you have to attack the medium of the information rather than the content.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 10:56 PM
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men that won't do relationships have lower SMV to women This is patently false, the price of pussy for even semi-highish SMV men has plummeted to nothing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToS4zoYcJnk
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 10:19 PM
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guys with standards are not going to want to date down. Incorrect, guys like beauty AND like variety. If you want beauty, you have to wine and dine a bitch, even if you're good looking. A good looking man can jump from bed to bed without much effort. That's why a 10 will fuck a 6 because there's no work involved and the 6 feels she's getting something good in return because she's jumping multiple levels so she won't ask for too much (dinner, move, commitment, etc.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 09:59 PM
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Yes, high value women do want someone who will commit, but they want someone who is AT LEAST on their level, which is a problem because men on their level can fuck as many women as they want, so why commit someone who's high maintenance and limit yourself to one vagina? And there aren't many men available on their level or above. This C-list model describes the problem well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvewLbzKmMw The Disney Princess illusion was shattered for this and many other high value …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 09:55 PM
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Yes, most men are clueless to it. What's silly is to bury your head in the sand and pretend the Disney version of love is a real thing men should strive for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 03:48 PM
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SMV for women is 99% looks SMV for men depends on who the woman is. For younger women, it's looks. For older women looks are still very important, but so is money/security Yes, there is a trade. For very attractive men, they trade their attractiveness for sex. For many attractive men, they can and WILL trade it for EASY sex... the less attractive the woman, the easier the sex they can have. And that's what average looking women get out of that arrangement: Jumping multiple spots up for sex with …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 01:59 AM
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Yes, i've noticed the trend of desperate beta men adopting feminism so they can 'get some'. It can work, sort of, but as the saying goes, 'the odds are good, but the goods are odd'. Then you get shit like this where a beta feminist man dates WAY down and even then he still gets cucked. http://wiki.gamergate.me/images/5/5b/Eron_gjoni.jpeg http://federalism.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341bf6e653ef01b8d082e512970c-pi
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/15 01:43 AM
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Feminists have done jack shit about fighting against male gender roles. They have almost eradicated most female gender roles (especially those that involve them going out into the workforce and being 'independent'). The proof is the fact that whenever men lose their jobs, they're more likely to divorce, but when women lose their jobs, their risk of divorce doesn't increase. Feminists only care about doing what's best for women and not doing jack shit for men. In fact, feminists secretly like gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 11:32 PM
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I consider creepy someone who acts out of the general norm when it comes to dating. The guy called women sluts and whores and got them attracted to him. You're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 03:17 PM
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I dunno, i don't care all that much about validation, i'd rather have the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/15 12:08 AM
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might be a little easier LMAO A girl can't just work her ~manipulative feeeemale magic~ on a guy who rejects her or isn't interested. A good looking guy will pump and dump an average chick because there's less work involved. It happens all the time. The ONLY reason why you think it's not that common is because there's too few men who are considered 'good looking'! A man can have sex only so many times a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 10:27 PM
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Is not aggressive. It's a clear joke. AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA Get the hell out of here. Any average looking man who did that would have the cops called on him. It wouldn't matter how many 'tee hee's, winky faces, smiley faces, silly emoji's you put in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 10:02 PM
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Nope. Average looking women will be more than happy to fuck a good looking guy than a beautiful woman would be (without strings attached) because it's instant validation. That distorts her own SMV. Her biological clock reverses that imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 09:10 PM
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Even better evidence http://tinderrage.blogspot.ca/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 08:40 PM
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This is fucking gold
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 08:39 PM
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Ugly men are instantly creeps because he devalues women by hitting on them even if they're roughly in the same SMV As women get older, these so called 'creeps' turn into possible beta bux husband material. That's all there is too it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 08:37 PM
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A female 5 will accuse a male 5 of being a creep because the female 5 is used to fucking 7-8-9-10's A female 5 will acquiesce to the male 5 when she's good and ready to be married (aka she's nearing 30). Your analysis is flawed. Stop being an apologist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 08:33 PM
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I don't expect men to do the approaching, So you want MORE harems, gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 07:43 PM
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Because it's not in their language, they live in a poor country, etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 07:42 PM
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Fine and assuming "Money + Looks + Status" are all the same (as we can in the video) then it does come down to game, which is how you approach some one. Which in the video his luck changes on how he approaches some one or what type of game he uses. When he as good game he has success, when he has bad game he doesnt regardless of all other factors. I'm going to have to go home and watch the video again. IIRC he changed the pitch of his voice and maybe said some different things. In any case, an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 06:35 PM
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To me i see some one who, when he approaches girls as an "alpha" he has luck with them when he approaches them as "beta" he doesnt regardless of how he looks. Part of it is game. Attraction = Money + Looks + Status + Game so to me that has more to do with how you approach some one then anything. If Leonardo Di Caprio said god awful shit, worse than calling a girl a slut or whore, he would still be able to bring home women because his status and looks are sky high.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 06:14 PM
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Click the link, watch the video
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:52 PM
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lol, watch the video, he's not that good looking (average, really) and he gets away with calling women sluts and whores and having them respond positively.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:36 PM
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That and millions of women schlicking themselves to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:31 PM
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For example "psycho ex-girlfriend." Except men will apply that label to ex-girlfriends who really are crazy and it doesn't matter how hot or ugly they are. Women apply 'creep' in a very dishonest way. Creep really means, 'oh my god, is this the best i can do? I gotta say 'creep' to protect my value/dignity' If we're really honest about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:25 PM
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You can still be good looking and come off as creep. Nope, there was an RSD video of Tyler (founder/instructor) for RSD going up to women and playfully calling them sluts/whores. They were eating it up. I wouldn't say Tyler is 'good looking', but he dresses well and has game. In fact, the same video, he got a beta guy to do it and the women were disgusted with him, he explained that women put men in the alpha/beta category and that is what determines what you can get away with. Edit: It's this v…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 05:24 PM
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Translation: Women destroyed romance. Men are the romantic sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 01:25 PM
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Depends on what the ages of the women in question are. I imagine speed dating has women on the older side. Women become much less selective when their looks start fading/has faded. No longer are they holding out for the 6 foot model looking billionaire, but now having a full set of teeth is their only requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 03:18 AM
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fine, i reworded
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 03:31 PM
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1) Depends on why they get angry 2) At least men don't need rooms with 'coloring books, bubbles, play-doh', calming music, puppies' etc to deal with it 3) You're insinuating women don't get angry 4) Considering men are more likely to be a victim of domestic violence, your assertion is really really funny: http://www.saveservices.org/2012/02/cdc-study-more-men-than-women-victims-of-partner-abuse/ (Next your going to tell me those women assaulting their boyfriends/husbands were doing so in a calm …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 03:12 PM
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No proof of your assertion, but trp has proof that women are children: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/opinion/sunday/judith-shulevitz-hiding-from-scary-ideas.html?smid=tw-share&_r=2 The safe space, Ms. Byron explained, was intended to give people who might find comments “troubling” or “triggering,” a place to recuperate. The room was equipped with cookies, coloring books, bubbles, Play-Doh, calming music, pillows, blankets and a video of frolicking puppies, as well as students and staff membe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 03:01 PM
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Sorry, we don't need 'rubber rooms' like feminists do (see the nytimes article above) every time bloopers say something 'mean'.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 02:46 PM
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You were saying? http://i.imgur.com/DnMjpl3.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 02:41 PM
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No, i'm not, because the idea of safe spaces (protecting the feelings of the weak) is retarded, that's not what that is about for trp. Nobody gets 'triggered' with concern trolling on trp.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 02:30 PM
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Nobody gets 'triggered', RP does that so the message doesn't get watered down to some level of SJW approved stupidity with concern trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 02:22 PM
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No true scotsman feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 01:12 PM
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TRP is about making men strong, feminism is about turning women into weak little victims, they're the opposite of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 01:11 PM
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It's also the new generation of feminism. It prevalent on college campuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 01:10 PM
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Except just about anything triggers an SJW feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 01:08 PM
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Outside of college? Maybe not, but it's such a problem inside of college that the NYTimes has had to write about it. You can no longer blame crazy tumblr feminists. The new generation of feminists have gone completely off the rails.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 01:07 PM
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You're seeing the misandry bubble popping. Women want marriage more than men do (per Pew's surveys) and it's going up for women and down for men with each generation. Women priced themselves out of the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 03:19 AM
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It's been on my mind. Why is TRP so critical of women that have had several sex partners while men are encouraged to "spin plates" all the time? Because many of these men were looking for committed relationships but found out that modern women aren't worthy of commitment and now want to bring the system down (This is what Heartsie advocates btw).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 02:56 AM
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I bet Leonardo Dicaprio has created a legion of alpha widows.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 11:06 PM
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you exaggerate gender differences. a male 10 is more likely to sleep with a five (than a female 10 would), but that rarely happens. Happens more than you think. While men value beauty, they also value variety. You can't get variety with female 9's and 10's because they balk more at sleeping around, but for the female 5, snagging a 10, even for sex is a 'good deal' from the 5's perspective. For the male 10, it's far less work than snagging a female 10 for casual sex. but that rarely happens. more…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 10:54 PM
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Even in gender equal situations, you will have women's hypergamy going into hyperdrive and focusing on the highest value male they can get. 10's fucking 5's create a false impression on the 5's that they can get commitment from 10's. That is part of the reason why women put off marriage, their wiring gets fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 10:45 PM
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Oh and btw, yale tilts slightly male Yale University has a total undergraduate enrollment of 5,430, with a gender distribution of 50.7 percent male students and 49.3 percent female students. At this school, 87 percent of the students live in college-owned, -operated, or -affiliated housing and 12 percent of students live off campus.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 10:40 PM
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The sex lives of most college students aren't all that different from those of their parents or grandparents LMAO, the title by itself invalidates the article. Look at this ridiculous tidbit: In a survey I conducted of over 100 Yale students, almost all of the single respondents, ambition be damned, said they were currently seeking a relationship involving dating, commitment or, at the very least, monogamous sex. Yeah, that's what the women WANTED in the NY Times article too, except they couldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 10:35 PM
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Feminists recently asked people to stop clapping their hands so it wouldn't 'trigger' people with anxiety. I don't think feminists are done trying to 'equalize' this country http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/24/feminist-conference-says-clapping-triggers-anxiety/ And by equalize, i mean destroying it with their stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 10:30 PM
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It ended up being a large scale experiment, one that i and others have witnessed in other campuses. Your purposely closing your eyes and ears. The journalist interviewed a ton of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 10:24 PM
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In this case there were MORE women than men and you didn't get the pairing you were describing: and women follow the assortative mating model, Completely debunked. Half the men, in an advantageous situation, were left out in the cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 10:14 PM
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It's observable throughout any college campus with a female disadvantaged gender imbalance (which most colleges are). It doesn't matter if there's more women, less women or equal, you'll see a shitload of men in each scenario that doesn't see any interest. It's not some surprising revelation. Women are the ones who choose the mates because they're the ones getting penises thrown at them every single day. Stop trying to pretend the women aren't the problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 07:46 PM
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You think an unhappy wife is going to make a good wife? Get the fuck out of here. At best, she mopes around and is a huge fucking bitch, at worst, she'll divorce rape the chump/cheat on him. LMAO, BP wants to give these women a chance, LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 07:25 PM
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Read through it. Women outnumber men AND STILL IGNORE HALF THE MEN. They're beggars AND choosers. That's the height of ridiculous. Read the whole article, one woman says it's not uncommon to see 6 scantily clad women surrounding a single man at a bar, trying to get his attention. One student who is a steady boyfriend slept with 5 of his girlfriend's sorority sisters ("that she knows of") before going steady.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 07:23 PM
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Nope http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2yipqi/from_the_new_york_times_women_are_suffering/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 07:11 PM
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No, hypergamy means going to the highest status male you possibly can. In our MODERN day sexual marketplace, that can mean 'serially chaning partners'. There is evidence that hypergamy RESULTS in polygamous/soft harem arrangements: http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2yipqi/from_the_new_york_times_women_are_suffering/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 07:11 PM
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This is exactly why nobody takes BP seriously. Oh yeah, it's the happy women who divorce, is basically what you're saying. Get out of here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 07:08 PM
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Yes, if BOTH husband and wife only slept with one another. However, the SPECIFICALLY point out women for those that didn't follow this pattern: Further, for women, having had fewer sexual partners before marriage was also related to higher marital quality. This doesn’t mean that sex before marriage will doom a marriage, but sex with many different partners may be risky if you’re looking for a high-quality marriage. doesn't really hold up at all. Ever heard the phrase 'happy wife, happy life'? Is…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 07:01 PM
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I've never seen this documentary so it's useful for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 06:39 PM
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So the UVA study i posted has no scientific value and somehow 'ignores' religiousness... http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3043ke/redpillers_would_you_say_you_are_a_social/cppewd0 Sounds like no amount of proof will satisfy you and your biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 06:34 PM
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in which child rearing is distributed among the tribe. I'm not taking care of someone else's baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 01:10 PM
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That's only because of clueless omega male virgins driving down the average; they have no chance of getting married either. Any man who knows what they're doing is going to get far more sex than a married couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 01:07 PM
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Being single for men != not enjoying sex. Men and women have vastly different sexual goals. Men are learning that marriage is slavery and can enjoy sex and their own lives without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 04:43 AM
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No, women/feminism ruined romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 04:24 AM
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Unemployed/underemployed men don't suffer sexually if their looks and/or game are sufficiently high. In fact, employment will not factor into anything when the marriage market crashes completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 04:23 AM
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Incorrect. Bluepill is delusional. Men want sex. Women want commitment (from alphas, which is very difficult). Men's SMV increases with age, women's SMV decreases. According to Pew's research, women actually want marriage MORE than they did in previous generations while men want it less. Marriage rates are going down. Also, this article explains why women LOSE the dating game: Women astonished that men don't seem to be around when they decide it is time to settle down. Women telling men to ''man…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 10:43 PM
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You can distrust TRP all you like, but you can't ignore scientific consensus, which is what TRP is based on. Science vs. people's opinions, i know what i'm going to trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 08:04 PM
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Because sluts have a higher chance of becoming alpha widows. http://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2s1coz/what_is_an_alpha_widow_and_why_does_it_matter/ The study i referenced above actually has a section that sorta says the same thing (too busy to look up right now), something about women with higher partner counts knowing that there may be more/better options out there due to their extensive sexual experience. Remember, women are hypergamous. Men date down, women date up. If a woman who's…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 07:46 PM
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The articles/studies agree with each other though. How do you feel about the university of virginia/the washington post? http://nationalmarriageproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NMP-BeforeIDoReport-Final.pdf Further, for women, having had fewer sexual partners before marriage was also related to higher marital quality. This doesn’t mean that sex before marriage will doom a marriage, but sex with many different partners may be risky if you’re looking for a high-quality marriage. Here's a cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 07:35 PM
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http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2yipqi/from_the_new_york_times_women_are_suffering/ “This is so typical, like all nights, 10 out of 10,” said Kate Andrew, a senior from Albemarle, N.C. The experience has grown tiresome: they slip on tight-fitting tops, hair sculpted, makeup just so, all for the benefit of one another, Ms. Andrew said, “because there are no guys.” ... North Carolina, with a student body that is nearly 60 percent female, is just one of many large universities that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 07:26 PM
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Because if a woman takes a job in a different city, a man won't move for her right? In a LTR? Studies have shown women put more weight on a man having a job when it comes to more serious relationships (not surprisingly). For an ambitious women, that's an anchor, because she'll expect to be in a relationship with an ambitious man. It's harder to move when you're in a serious relationship/married. instinctively? really? it's in your instincts? Yes? Wow, you really don't know how the world works. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 07:22 PM
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Men play around in college too Of course who do you think these girls are fucking? The good looking ones. Even in situations where women outnumber men, women refuse to hookup with half of them or date them: See here http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2yipqi/from_the_new_york_times_women_are_suffering/ You can be career driven and focus on an LTR Not if you're intent on advancing your career/moving when there are better opportunities it has NOTHING to do with sex Of course it does. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 07:09 PM
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It's part of the reason. Lets be honest though, women focusing on their careers aren't focusing on LTR's Read this article: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/14/fashion/sex-on-campus-she-can-play-that-game-too.html?pagewanted=all Ambitious women are focusing on hookups in college/early twenties because they want to be able to focus on their career and be able to move around getting the best jobs and not be tied down to a man. The men who aren't part of this remember that and will not only make up f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 06:56 PM
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Oh really? Why is it they say it then? And you're wrong: http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html Not those exact words... actually a bit more humorous (to me anyway): ''It's wall-to-wall arseholes out there,'' reports Penny, a 31-year-old lawyer. She is stunned by how hard it is to meet suitable men willing to commit. ''I'm horrified by the number of gorgeous, independent and successful women my age who can't meet a decent man.''
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 06:39 PM
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And then 30'something year old women complain about 'where have all the good men gone', you can't have it both ways. If women ride the cc, that's fine, as long as they know they have a decent chance they die alone after their looks start to fade.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 06:33 PM
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Women should be able to do whatever they want within the law, but they should also be informed of the consequences of their freedom. Ride the cc all you want, but women should know that the men they ignored that are now responsible contributing members of society and that you are now eyeing might not want to marry you. Feminism wants freedom without consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:02 PM
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I think not empathizing with women until they start empathizing with men is a good policy actually. No other way to get change.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 02:05 PM
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Understanding and sensitivity are required for good communication. I can't tell if you're trolling or not. I highly doubt leaders in the military talk about 'feelings' when they're under heavy fire ... or ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 01:46 PM
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I'm always amused when they claim to know women better than women know themselves and yet are unwilling or unable to have an intelligent conversation with one. Let me guess, you think women give better dating advice to men than men who are successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 05:17 AM
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Oh really, so you could have no job and no money and these unicorns will be attracted to you? I should probably call the cops and make sure you aren't keeping them locked up in your basement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 05:11 AM
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I, too, count on outliers in life
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 05:03 AM
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Goodnight, racist
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:25 AM
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1) It makes no sense to bring that up for a room full of random people. You CLEARLY brought it up based on appearance (race/how they're dressed/etc.) 2) Again, it doesn't take even a high school diploma to understand male disposability.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:24 AM
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lol, if you saw a roomful of white men, you would NEVER bring up 'uneducated'. You're projecting your own racism. YOU brought it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:16 AM
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lol, YOU'RE the racist scum. You pointed out 'being uneducated' when you saw a room full of black men. Why the fuck would you even bring that up? That's hilarious you're trying to turn that around on me. As said many times about Briffault's Law it doesn't take into consideration social influence. Yeah that women control.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 03:07 AM
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Because women have ample opportunity to branch swing to another man. For the overwhelming majority of men, they don't have the same type of options. Men have no intrinsic value (except for the truly attractive), society values women by default. Watch this entire video, at one point, one of the black men in the room (around 7:30 i think) makes the case that when you don't have any money and the woman needs to support you for a while, she'll start getting fed up and start looking at other men who …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 02:15 AM
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who could be uneducated Why, because they're black? Also, Briffault's law: The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place. — Robert Briffault, The Mothers, Vol. I, p. 191 From a famed surgeon/anthropologist/novelist, ok now it's "kosher" for you, bonus points for being white. Male disposability is the most obvious fucking thing in the universe and you don't need e…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 01:58 AM
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Mediocre minds tend to attack the source rather than the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 01:40 AM
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Depends on what the man in question can provide for the woman, Briffault's law: The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place. — Robert Briffault, The Mothers, Vol. I, p. 191
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 12:27 AM
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http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/300hoh/women_see_men_as_pure_utility/cpok5vo
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 12:23 AM
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Nah, he's spot on http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/300hoh/women_see_men_as_pure_utility/cpok5vo
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 12:22 AM
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He makes a conscious effort, because humans are programmed by default, both men and women, to view women favorably compared to men: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%80%9CWomen_are_wonderful%E2%80%9D_effect The “women are wonderful” effect is the phenomenon found in psychological research which suggests that people associate more positive attributes with the general social category of women compared to men. This effect reflects an emotional bias toward the female gender as a general case. The ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 12:20 AM
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Men are disposable. 6 black men all agreed with what he's saying in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJqCHfq1Zow
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 12:18 AM
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It equates to infidelity/divorce/poor marriage quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 11:45 PM
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No, free reliable birth control for men will cost a fraction of what all the "bastard children" and single mothers cost - it will save money. It will be a strain on our economy because the baby boomers are retiring and we won't have enough young people to support them and their medicare/social security which costs a shitload more money than welfare No, in around 50 years time we will be running around healthy at 80+ and there will be a 40% drop in available jobs due to technology. And who do you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 09:21 PM
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its just a matter of rolling out free, reliable birth control to all men. Oh, so we can have a strain on our social services where there won't be enough young people to support medicare/social securtiy anymore and the replacement rate of children will dwindle. Men aren't dropping out of the system, we are continuing to work. LMAO, have you SEEN the college enrollment/graduation rates between men and women? Get out of here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 09:14 PM
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Our new system is creating more bastard children being raised in single family homes, women who aren't getting married, and men who are just saying 'fuck it' and dropping out of the system. How is that good for society again?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 09:10 PM
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I think you're confusing the issue, modern technology and economies destroyed the one man one woman system, but in a society with modern technology and economies, a one man one woman system is STILL the best policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 09:05 PM
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No, one man one woman is the best system for a functional society, men's instincts tell them to fuck as many women as possible, women's instincts is to get the best man available.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 09:01 PM
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I sometimes wonder if it has something to do with growing up in poverty and the hard-knocks that comes with it Funny you should say that, see my edit in the OP!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 05:55 PM
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I put in an edit in the OP. I don't think they inherently value it, but circumstances in their culture reveal redpill truths to them much earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 05:50 PM
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There was a post in /r/science the other day about how science found something like for every 17 women who had given birth, only 1 man had been a father or something like that, and there was quite a bit of redpill talk. Interesting how RP ideas are kosher as long as you don't say 'that which must not be named'.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 05:41 PM
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They've brigaded kia many times.
/r/PussyPass21/03/15 03:45 PM
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I actually just did an hour ago, BP, Squat and Deadlifts :P
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 04:46 AM
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Men and women have opposite sexual goals, at a primal level. Your ignorance is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 01:16 AM
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I said WOMEN EXPECT they'll get commitment, not SOCIETIES. Societies put those restrictions in place BECAUSE they understood the hypergamous nature of women and the non-commital nature of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 12:30 AM
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different and equal overall or different and inferior? I just said they're pretty important for the survival of our species and men are disposable, didn't i? The only difference is, i know this, and beta idiots don't, and i simply won't indulge women's inflated sense of entitlement anymore. would you be more likely to hire a female or male as your accountant? I dunno, would said female have to work with other females? and i've never said men and women are the same. how are we determining happine…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 12:03 AM
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HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA Come on: a) women get fooled because they get an abundance of attention once they hit puberty and b) feminism has been preaching the 'you can have it all' nonsense for a long time now. Women think they not only CAN have everything they want, but they DESERVE it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 11:58 PM
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I think they're different and pretty important to the survival of our species. Thinking men and women are the same is creating lots of unhappy men and women. Men are disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 11:49 PM
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It's not a doomed philosphy. What's doomed is a) society and b) women's expectation that they're guaranteed commitment. TRP is just speeding up the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 11:01 PM
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It's helped motivate me to make more money, get more fit, be better with women, be more assertive, more dominant, find inner peace. Please explain to me what benefits i can get by being an antivaxxer or racist. I don't see people flocking to those subreddits for any perceived benefits. Your comparisons are idiotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 11:00 PM
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We aren't talking about equality of height, are we. No, but i suspect women aren't attracted to men who give up power for the same reasons they aren't attracted to short men - they want men who are powerful, not weak/submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 03:00 PM
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It's clearly better than 'egalitarian' marriages (which produces divorce/dead bedrooms/etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 02:58 PM
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It seems to me fundamental that a women's complaints about her dating experience tend to revolve around the fact that men move in for sex faster than they're comfortable with and often leave for other people too quickly leaving the women hurt because she emotionally committed to the man. At a deeper level there's the frustration at the fact that a women always feel "objectified" by her male peers in that they never her see her for her individual character or personality but merely another sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 02:57 AM
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I take it to me assume until proven otherwise. Obviously it does not mean 100%. You will always find people who don't fit that mold. But it's a good rule of thumb. It's in man's (and woman's) nature to assume the goodness of women which blinds us to when they do wrong. It's called the 'women are wonderful effect'. This cognitive bias gets men into a LOT of trouble. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%80%9CWomen_are_wonderful%E2%80%9D_effect
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/15 01:12 AM
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Not every depression is 'clinical'. OP never mentioned that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 06:43 PM
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I would say yes it can. Before i felt trapped when I didn't understand why the world worked the way it did, why the Disney version of romance didn't work, but when i finally opened my eyes, i developed a sense of peace, calmness, and and confidence that I've never experienced before. Would I be happier if the Blue Pill Just World theory were true? Absolutely, but i'm a billion times better off than I was before, and i would never trade my mental/spiritual peace for the chaotic anger/sadness/conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/15 01:19 PM
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Feminism wants to put men in such a narrow category of 'acceptable' behavior while allowing women to be free to do whatever they want. It's a bullshit ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 09:43 PM
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I think you'd be surprised how coddled some women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 08:56 PM
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I dunno, is it really bad for the girl though? If you can get idiot thirsty betas to do all your work for you, throughout your whole life, then that's smart. There was a front page thread within the past week where someone posted about being a male nurse and due to gender roles, all the female nurses made him lift the patients without helping him and he destroyed his back after 2 years and required several surgeries. That's smart. And it's his damn fault for being a beta bitch white knight. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 08:17 PM
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most women still have some desire for monogamy (/serial monogamy) and will enter into relationships with guys they don't find sexually attractive for this reason. Sounds like a great deal for average looking guys /s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 07:44 PM
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You don't know about thirsty men, eh? Go into any engineering school computer lab and you'll see a bunch of beta bitches hovering over one of the few girls in their engineering school basically doing her projects for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 07:28 PM
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There's been a few thread topics about 'nice guys' today, you can use my post here since it's controversial: "I have the same disgust of 'nice guys' that feminists do and i hope every alpha (redpill or otherwise) destroys them. Some of the men i've helped were former 'nice guys' who had their delusions destroyed by women who cheat on them or just being beta orbiters who never saw any romantic reciprocity. You can't build someone back up until you've broken them down. Roissy and other manosphere …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 05:36 PM
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Going to c/p a previous post: I have the same disgust of 'nice guys' that feminists do and i hope every alpha (redpill or otherwise) destroys them. Some of the men i've helped were former 'nice guys' who had their delusions destroyed by women who cheat on them or just being beta orbiters who never saw any romantic reciprocity. You can't build someone back up until you've broken them down. Roissy and other manosphere bloggers make this same argument and cheer on 'nice guys' being obliterated by a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 05:35 PM
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I have the same disgust of 'nice guys' that feminists do and i hope every alpha (redpill or otherwise) destroys them. Some of the men i've helped were former 'nice guys' who had their delusions destroyed by women who cheat on them or just being beta orbiters who never saw any romantic reciprocity and saw alphas sweep them off their feet in front of them. You can't build someone back up until you've broken them down. Roissy and other manosphere bloggers make this same argument and cheer on 'nice …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 05:30 PM
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I'm sure nice men who are at the absolute apex of attractiveness have no problems getting women. But if that's your argument, then your argument is shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:30 PM
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Pullups uses the same motions/muscles (core/lats/biceps)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:28 PM
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That's projection: You can't reconcile the fact that genuinely nice men can't find love so you have to somehow find a way to make him out to be an opportunistic piece of shit. TRP/Alphas destroying their selfworth (built on lies btw) by taking the women they have romantic feelings for is the best cure for this 'nice guy' stupidity; it's only when you've been broken down and hit rock bottom that you can be built back up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:12 PM
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He is much better at wielding power than Obama To be fair, that's because he's an authoritarian dictator. Putin doesn't have to worry about a congress derailing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:07 PM
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I think being able to climb over stuff should be an important component of the physical test.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 04:02 PM
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wanting to put other people first is just a decent human being thing to do. Sure, but that doesn't mean you have to go out of your way to treat your romantic interests nicely. Go help the homeless, tutor some underprivileged kids, but when you're a man chasing a woman, you should put your happiness ahead of hers (in fact, put hers dead last). THAT is what women find attractive. A man that knows what he wants and the confidence to get it. Not some bitch made beta fuck who treats women all lovey d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 03:51 PM
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Being able to carry X weight Y distance in Z amount of time would be a much better test. But it seems women don't do well on those tests either. So what's your issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 01:53 PM
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That's why i advocate redpillers/alphas/players destroying "niceguys": take their love interests, take their girlfriends, destroy their self esteem. It's only until you hit rock bottom that you wake up and realize women aren't as they seem and society lied to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 01:40 PM
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Do nice things for everyone BUT women you would sleep with. That's the entire reason why we're in this mess. Stop doing their homework, fixing their car, opening doors for them, taking them out to lunch on your dime, buying them coffee, moving heavy shit for them etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 01:33 PM
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hahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/15 01:31 PM
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You forgot education. And also destruction of due process/presumption of innocence in sexual assault cases on campus. And media representation. Probably forgetting other stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 09:15 PM
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The reason why Alphas will bed average girls is because they expect nothing from them. And it makes sense. An Alpha man still has to keep an alpha woman happy. An average woman would probably feel like she's getting a great bargain out of sleeping with an alpha man (although she's delusional if she thinks she can get commitment).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 03:00 AM
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Good lord, Brad Pitt is crazy for doing that. Last guy i would want to cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 01:47 AM
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Any pictures of mike's ex? Is it Robin Givens?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 01:33 AM
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as men's roles are more respected than women's. Tell you what, women can do the dangerous work and be almost 95% of workplace related deaths, you can work in the mines, work in the sewers, work low wage jobs (fewer men going to college) and we'll take care of the freaking kids and house. "Respected" is sometimes overrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 12:18 AM
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You could tell us?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 12:02 AM
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LMAO, they steretype asian men as sexist and that's the reason why women don't like them and you're going to pin that on TRP? Yeah ok. You see what you want to see. Read through the thread again and see people calling out their racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 11:22 PM
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I never read the books, i'm referring to the movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 09:32 PM
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More alluring than being a guy who never got sex in his teens/twenties, being suckered into a marriage to a 30-something used up jaded career woman who feels she has to 'settle' for you, then having a dead bedroom after a year or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 08:02 PM
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He has a bodybuilder's body (not overdone too). I would consider calling him that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 07:44 PM
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There are two types of alphas in my mind (and everything in between): Alpha Negatives: Drug dealers, criminals/thugs, Jersey Shore type gutter trash. They can attract hot women, but are low class and often get in trouble with the law. When TRP criticizes alphas, these are the types of alphas they typically criticize. Alpha Positive: The epitome of this is, for me, is James Bond (ok, fictional but still the best example). Of course good looking, but he has a 'i'm unflappable and i have my shit to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 07:35 PM
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https://instagram.com/p/xLlRDkoDqg/?taken-by=danbilzerian lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 07:24 PM
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Really? GLO posted pics of himself, he has a ripped body. He cheated with steroids, but still, he has the type of body most women go for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 07:12 PM
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Feminism is far more degrading to men. Feminism demonizes male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 07:05 PM
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I, too, use outliers in my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 07:05 PM
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Nope, go into the comments, it's TBP racism
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 01:12 PM
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Feminism shaming men into being bitch boys. That's the #1 reason. Alphas are naturally strong willed and don't give a shit what a feminist says.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 12:28 AM
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He's probably talking about good looking men vs. not good looking men, that type of inequality. However, the super rich can just import women from around the world or rent temporary girlfriends (I forgot the website's name, i think it's called 'seeking arrangements' or something).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 05:55 PM
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Your post is logical which is why TBP will come in and downvote you. The only criticism i have is assuming 'Bob' will marry at 31. More and more "Bob's" will forgo marriage with each generation and just keep a soft harem. I have a couple of retired neighbors who are devout christians, but their two sons are in their 40's (they're pretty good looking, over 6 feet tall, ride Harley's) and they both have live-in girlfriends in their late 20's. They complain that their sons aren't settling down for …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 04:29 PM
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TRP Racism? Sounds like they have something in common with TBP, everyone should rejoice! http://np.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/2m7p5s/my26f_brother24m_joined_the_redpill_and_has_now/ http://np.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/2uhr4v/to_the_desi_man_who_keeps_sending_me_and_other/ Edit: editted for np links
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 01:22 PM
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The reason is because if men who are not naturally alpha start waking up to what a raw deal they're getting, the marriage market will get fucked up for women even more than it already is. THAT is the real reason and why women are scared shitless that the manosphere will start catching on with more and more men. When Betabux start disappearing, what options do women have left? Omega men (300 pounders with no job, no teeth?)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 01:18 PM
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Cosmetic industry?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/15 12:37 AM
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I didn't, what comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 11:50 PM
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Only for the husbands who have a hint of attractiveness. Lets be honest, the average schlub isn't going to be able to cheat on anyone. Women, OTOH, have lots of chances to cheat no matter how unattractive they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 11:37 PM
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So you didn't actually look at the link i posted, gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 02:08 PM
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How come my thread was deleted again?: http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2yipqi/from_the_new_york_times_women_are_suffering/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 01:39 PM
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Incorrect http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2yipqi/from_the_new_york_times_women_are_suffering/cp9zd1p
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 01:38 PM
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Yes, when there is a semblence of balance. “If a guy is not getting what he wants, he can quickly and abruptly go to the next one, because there are so many of us,” said Katie Deray, a senior at the University of Georgia, who said that it is common to see six provocatively clad women hovering around one or two guys at a party or a bar. There's no balance, so women are FORCED to date down. It's a special case and not representative of society outside of college.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 01:33 PM
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That's a generous interpretation. It's more that the gender imbalance is so great that way more women have to consider the 'above average' men too (the horror).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 01:23 PM
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Men are more amenable to date someone in their own league or below them, women are not, that's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 01:22 PM
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No problem!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 04:50 AM
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Going to bed soon, but... read the article, most of the men at those universities are undateable. Say there's a university of 100 women and 80 men. Of those 80 men, 40 are betas. 20 of the upper tier men have girlfriends, and the other 20 are the cream of the crop. So 80 women vie or the 20 men. Those 20 men see that there are a shitload of desperate women so they can jump from bed to bed. But if all 80 men are dateable alphas, then women can more easily find a 1 to 1 match. Even better if you h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 04:43 AM
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This is somewhat true in the short run, but if ALL men were alpha, women would have some purchasing power again because right now alpha men are too rare which is why they can fuck around so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 04:35 AM
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Sure, if you could actually make a logical connection (actually, pornography has somewhat of a weak connection, why put up with a high maintenance bitch when you can rub one out if you're a beta male?)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 04:14 AM
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At least the OKCupid study isolated men looking for women and women looking for men. That's like the very basic fucking thing that needs to be done for this to be a worthwhile study to talk about in THIS context.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 03:08 AM
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his study is bullshit, ignore it http://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2yi6u5/cmv_women_have_an_extremely_high_bar_to_even/cp9tcy2
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 02:00 AM
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Stop posting that dogshit 'study'. Gay, Lesbian, Bi, and Straight people can vote on same sexes. I've done it myself before and i'm straight. Also, it's a bullshit assertion that women won't vote 4 or 5 for men to avoid pingbacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 01:55 AM
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