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Funny you say that my lower jaw is brad Pitt tier. I have such a severe vertical deficiency though my face looks squashed and also have a upper jaw forward recession. Basically the problem is that they can’t downgraft very much for the verification deficiency. Also with forward movement. They cut part of the lower jaw and move it forward. Leaving the rest recessed. This can actually yield a worse looking chimp like result. I’m going to try to get as little forward movement as I can with as much …
/r/ExRedPill01/09/21 10:44 PM
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Sounds like you were a class 2. I’m a pretty bad case of class three with a vertically deficient maxilla. So basically class three and short face syndrome. It’s fucking over. All it takes it for me not to be high as shit off sedatives to realize that again.
/r/ExRedPill01/09/21 02:31 PM
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Some surgeries can be legit.
/r/ExRedPill23/08/21 03:43 PM
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Yeah I’m just not gonna wallow in it. I think I’ll also just continue doing what I’ve been doing to cope and be healthier which basically is a lot of whitepill shit. Not that I’ve followed it specifically just a lot of it mirrors it. Whitepill is like monkmaxxing by the way, it’s trying to find peace with it all.
/r/ExRedPill23/08/21 02:42 PM
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That pretty only applies to women though. Men can’t mislead lead women about their height or face (makeup is not acceptable), but I guess they can fraud jawline with beard.
/r/ExRedPill23/08/21 02:39 PM
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That I ended up like the people I’m the vice video years ago.
/r/ExRedPill23/08/21 06:39 AM
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Talk about women is inevitable. Having been in a treatment facility for mental health issues that was dominated by women. At least like a third of what they talked about was their issues with men and relationships. I don’t mean domestic abuse (even though I didn’t hear it I don’t doubt that’s talked about often), I mean incel like complaints. Insecurity about looks and it’s relevance to getting who they want, complaints about some women getting the guy they want while they can’t, etc. This reall…
/r/ExRedPill23/08/21 04:55 AM
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I still hold onto the blackpill belief that looks are the most important. Let’s be honest you have to be physically attracted to be with someone. I don’t think that’s a such an unreasonable standard for someone to have either.
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 10:57 PM
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Look I’ve been single for six years And yet: https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/ntnvek/men_with_sexual_problems_of_a_psychological_nature/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 06:56 AM
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No apology needed. Just admit that you lied about not being able to get a date and I’ll be happy. https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/ntnvek/men_with_sexual_problems_of_a_psychological_nature/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 06:53 AM
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You won’t say anything cause you can’t make a rebuttal. You suggested I try to find teratophiles, something that hardly exists. I can’t get over how ridiculous this idea is. Yeah just go find people who are into deformed people cause that’s definitely a thing that is prominent enough to actually be. I kinda find the whole idea to be insulting to be honest. Also I was right about you lying about not being able to get a date. You literally posted after problems dating some guy recently. https://ww…
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 06:47 AM
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Intense jaw surgery. Full midface advancement if they let me (lefort three). But that’s just me cause I’m actually deformed. Really annoying to see some average looking lookism incels saying that want lefort three when they don’t have near the degree of recession I have, to the extent where it makes breathing hard. Also anyone who wouldn’t go through the effort to lose weight doesn’t deserve any.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 04:13 AM
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Well if that’s true my bad
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 02:44 AM
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Yeah I’ll consider it in the future. Right now I really don’t care about kids. I kinda just want a girlfriend. Oh and it totally makes sense that the studies would be flawed if we’re not controlling for Agee group.
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 02:04 AM
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Teratophilia is quite rare. Overwhelming majority of people don’t even know the word. It also usually implies an attraction to a monstrous look, not just simply deformed. Also even if it was relevant enough to help me, would kinda suck I could only get weirdos who fetishize deformed people. Where are these people, idk, I have yet to find any. And let’s say I go on one of those alleged forums. I don’t think there would be much success. Just imagine the demand of lonely deformed males looking for …
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 12:47 AM
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Nothing really. I’m pretty outgoing and have lots of friends. I will admit that I’m not the most confident or funny but I’m at least average in those regards. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that my face did not develop properly and not a single has found me attractive enough to not reject me. And I think the fact that I’m able to get platonic relationships indicates that my personality is not my problem. I appreciate your response though.
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 12:16 AM
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By former you mean non red or blackpilled or “ascended”?
/r/ExRedPill22/08/21 12:06 AM
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Can anything compensate for a deformed face? I say this as a guy with a deformed face and already know the answer (who would know better than me lol) but I’d like to hear your input. I mean actually deformed, not just ugly.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/21 11:58 PM
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Like I said I’m open to it. But fuck man, I gotta tell you. Each time I get rejected its awful. I just feel like it’s a joke. Here I am just at college, trying to talk to people at parties, sometimes girls. I never act sleezy just friendly and every time girls give me that disgusted death stare look if you know what I mean. Then there’s my cousin. Definition of a pretty boy. He goes off to college. Some girl finds him on Instagram, hit me up, goes to his place. Within his first day of college he…
/r/ExRedPill21/08/21 05:05 PM
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People wanna feel good about themselves so they like looking down and giving advice. They like to feel like they earned what they got. Like “oh I got a girlfriend cause I did x, y, and z”, instead of realizing they made it cause of their up to par looks.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/21 04:53 PM
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Nice quote bro. I’ll have you know that the relationship was confirmed to be fake.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/21 08:33 PM
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Redpill is low iq
/r/ExRedPill20/08/21 03:37 PM
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Yeah I’m young so I get the surgeries early on. Kinda sucks still be a virgin at this age though. Like everyone I know isn’t and they talk about sex all the time around me. It’s very blackpilling as they say. Like even the friends I met from mental illness treatment all had gfs.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/21 06:57 AM
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Yeah well I’ve always perceived BDD as someone who looks normal or even good is deluded into believed that they are hideous but I suppose by the actual definition I could have it. I don’t see how I could rid of it without the intense surgery. At best I could cope with it in the meantime. It’s hard to think I’m exaggerating it when I’ve had zero romantic success and have been bullied for my looks in the past. As for meds I’ve failed SSRIs, SNRIs, most of the new atypical meds, augmentation with l…
/r/ExRedPill20/08/21 06:19 AM
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I’m not in my 30s or 40s btw im in college. But yeah man thanks for the reply. Have a good one.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/21 05:57 AM
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Well you don’t know what the deformity looks like from the front. It’s pretty bad. I won’t lie my mental health is pretty bad and I think we can all agree that women find neurotic men unattractive. Especially when insecurity is involved. But I really don’t see how I could improve that with my looks getting better. And even if it did improve without my looks, my looks would be too much of a bottleneck. It’s not just romantic relationships and getting laid. Some days I just don’t even want to go o…
/r/ExRedPill20/08/21 05:46 AM
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By definition of the term incel, it simply means involuntary celibate. Celibacy does not require virginity. But the term usually refers to virgin involuntarily celibate males in the manosphere, that typically hold redpill or blackpill views.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/21 01:27 AM
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Yeah thanks. It’s always immediate assumptions about my character and blame placed on me.
/r/ExRedPill20/08/21 01:06 AM
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well honestly I don’t think single parenting is a good idea. Thinking about it logistically it’s seems like a mess for the child and statistics reflect that. I’m just going to try my best. I really do want a romantic relationship. Some days my acceptance will disappear and I’ll be in a state of panic or denial. I think society exacerbated the problems so much for me. Being teased for being a virgin didn’t help. Seeing romance and sex on every screen and hearing about it in every song. I just wis…
/r/ExRedPill20/08/21 01:04 AM
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Wait what exactly is your point? And who’s perpetuating the bullshit? Them or me?
/r/ExRedPill20/08/21 12:54 AM
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Well that hasn’t exactly been the case. Lots will try to tell me that it is possible for me, then they try to find ways to tell me it’s my fault. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, it’s not my fault. Others do have the, “okay yeah but shut up response”. They kinda act like it’s no big deal. Few will just agree with me and wish me good luck. But you can’t seriously suggest it’s not over for anyone. I mean statistically it’s not possible. Gender ratios overall and in my nation usually have…
/r/ExRedPill20/08/21 12:50 AM
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How do I have an adversarial relationship with women? I never said a bad thing about them. I guess I like men generally more as people, I just have more men in my life really. Incels generally do have mindset where if an ugly guy gets an ugly girl, they point and laugh. They act like they rather be celibate than be with that. That’s not the case for me. Also I could argue that the ugly guy who lived a good life with a wife or whatever probably had it easier in pre-hypergamy days but you’d go ahe…
/r/ExRedPill20/08/21 12:25 AM
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Bro cmon. I’m saying what’s true, an unlovable face makes an unlovable person. Sorry for being such a superficial person who wouldn’t actively pursue obese women. That’s pretty much my only standard. That’s it, that’s reasonable. And yea I kind am a bit disgusted by people who due to their own fault, eat very excessively, compromise their health, and give their body unnatural proportions. Women or male, obesity is kinda gross. But like I said earlier, at my level of attractiveness I probably wou…
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 11:24 PM
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The libido suppressing effect is so I have less sexual frustration. Also the “job interview” was an analogy.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 11:14 PM
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Bro thank you. I can’t say it enough. Every time I post about this, people play mental gymnastics to find ways it’s my fault. It’s part of the reason I went to incel forums. So much judgment and assumptions about my character here sometimes. Thank you for that.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 10:08 PM
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Well see.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 10:06 PM
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Yeah I’ve always does this. Always had lots of friends fortunately I’m grateful for that. I will say though that as I’ve gotten older it’s gotten harder. Friends make their girlfriends take priority and seeing “the boys” almost becomes an occasional novelty. If I could have the type of friendships I once had in childhood, I mean deep platonic brother like bonds, I’d probably be better off but everyone is off doing their own thing with their SOs. Anyways I’m planning on branching out and making m…
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 10:02 PM
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It is when repeated failure takes it toll. How am I superficial? I’m superficial for not wanting an obese woman? That’s a pretty reasonable standard for someone who’s in good physical shape. My deformity is not under my control. An obese person (barring metabolic diseases and what not) is obese due to poor diet. It’s not the same. Also acknowledging that the girls I went for were perceived by others as ugly does not make me superficial. If you’ve seen some of the girls I’ve been rejected by you’…
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 09:57 PM
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We’ll make one thing clear, I’m not just ugly. I’m deformed. That sort of thing is rare, so yes it’s pretty hard to find someone who looks as bad. I would date all of those women, except for the obese one. I’m sorry but as someone who keeps themself I’m good shape and values health I don’t think wanting someone who’s not obese is that unreasonable of a standard. I would date a fat woman, but clinically obese is too much. Realistically though, if an obese woman did show interest I would probably …
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 09:40 PM
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Well I have tried. Typically it would be some girl I met and we’d talk and hit it off as friends, and then usually I’d suggest we’d hangout together. Every time none of them showed any interest in hanging out one on one. But I’ve also been super direct with some girls and asked them out on dates. I’ve tried and it gets worse and worse each time and my confidence deteriorates with it. Let’s hope that the surgery might give me a chance.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 08:36 PM
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Thanks. Let’s hope it works.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 08:28 PM
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I mean, relative to others yes. But my standards are really low. It’s really hard to find people as unattractive as myself. I knew I never had a chance with attractive girls and I’ve only tried with what would be considered ugly girls.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 08:27 PM
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I put in a lot of work. I worked hard in school and have a scholarship at my university. I’ve tried to make myself interesting with my hobbies. I’ve gotten myself in good shape. I will admit that I’m not that confident but I’m not shy either and I definitely don’t make my insecurities apparent. I’ve seen a lot more passive and shy attractive guys get some. And it’s not about getting laid. I really want a partner. I want a best friend. I want companionship and romance. But sure, sex would probabl…
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 08:24 PM
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Goes to show this sub this sub is a circle jerk for redditors to validate each other’s opinions and does nothing to help people leave the manosphere.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 06:15 PM
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No amount of feminism will cure inceldom. Chronic inceldom will cause men to irrationally hate women it’s how it is most of the time. No guys starts off redpilled or blackpilled and hating women, thus deterring women and then not being able to get women. No, incels start off as normal dudes, realize they can’t get any, then the desperation, loneliness, and frustration manifests as hate. Typically towards normies who have sex (classic crabs in the bucket phenomenon) or women.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 06:13 PM
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The internet brings people together with shared problems for better or worse.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 06:06 PM
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Good luck finding one. Most don’t make it out.
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 06:02 PM
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Been debunked. I keep coming here for arguments to make me bluepilled but every time I’m disappointed. I’ll keep trying
/r/ExRedPill19/08/21 06:00 PM
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Here we go, we got an intelligent reply. Not sure I can live a fulfilling life but I plan to try my best
/r/ExRedPill05/08/21 12:39 PM
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Well, it’s hard to find women comparably ugly, and with the desperation of men, I’d assume their prospects are much better than mine so they can afford to have a more attractive mate. If there’s an opportunity you can be sure I’ll try to take it. I just think don’t there will be and any perceived opportunity I have that likely won’t work out, well it’s hard for me to try because repeated rejection really takes it toll on me. Just recently there was this girl I was kinda into. She was out of the …
/r/ExRedPill05/08/21 12:00 AM
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Try piano first. It’s set up is organized and easy to follow. Listen the basics of scales and you’ll know which notes work in a key and which chords work in a key, which is based off a triad of each note in the scale and depending on how many half/whole steps are needed to make up the 1, 3, and the 5, it’s major or minor
/r/ExRedPill31/07/21 06:48 AM
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Maybe I’m obsessed with it cause it’s a huge problem for me. And the fact that people really do care about it. Not like I express these insecurities to others either. That’s social suicide
/r/ExRedPill31/07/21 06:45 AM
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Enough with the generic Reddit advice. I’m already in therapy. It kinda maybe makes me feel a little better. But costs a lot (for now I’m not paying but I certainly won’t when I’m on my own) and won’t fix my awful face. Money is better spent actually solving the problem than having someone lie to me about the problem to make me feel better.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/21 10:26 PM
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Thanks I really appreciate your responses. You’re a good person.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/21 10:20 PM
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Breast implants are a sure fire way to make bigger boobs and get a decent aesthetic result. Jaw surgery especially upper jaw surgery is much more complex than that. Let me explain why my surgery won’t save me. When the upper jaw is deficient, that includes the lower orbital rims (bone under eyes that determine whether you got nice eyes or droopy sunken eye bags) , cheekbones, paranasal bones (if this is recessed nose look big and folds are face are excessive), and lower maxilla (determines proje…
/r/ExRedPill30/07/21 04:50 AM
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It will have a minimal effect on aesthetics. I mentioned that. So there I’ll be, a still unattractive guy, with no experience, and low confidence stemming from rejection and poor looks. My odds aren’t good. But hey, at least it’ll be easier to cope with better breathing, chewing, and a slightly less ugly face.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/21 02:45 AM
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I’ve been in therapy for 4 years. Has does nothing. I’ve tried all shit they throw at me, DBT, meds (been on so many at this point), mindfulness, CBT, etc. It hasn’t helped me and isn’t exactly cheap. Also weird how one medical professional (orthodontist) will show me how my face is misshapen and another medical professional (therapist) will tell me that I’m a perfectly normal looking guy. The inconsistency almost implies to me that the therapist is just lying to me in an attempt to help me cope…
/r/ExRedPill30/07/21 02:41 AM
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I already quit all forums. I realized that they are detrimental to my mental health a while ago. It’s not going to change my deformed face though. I’m trying to work on my confidence via being competent in other areas of my life. Sorry if I “ooze” out insecurity with a DEFORMED face. I don’t really think it’s possible to be confident in my predicament. Nor I think it would make women look past my face and I can’t say I blame them. Insecure and low esteem men can get women, I’ve seen it before, j…
/r/ExRedPill30/07/21 12:38 AM
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Realizing that the redpill advice is stupid and doesn’t change anything.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 11:53 PM
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Barring me becoming successful and someone using me for that, that’s not happening. Under these circumstances it’s over. Unless they gave me a lefort three surgery but they only do that for crouzon patients.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 10:14 PM
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Yeah you’re right
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 07:03 PM
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Yeah. You’re right. Thanks
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 05:50 PM
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you really think I go to parties talking about this or talk to girls about this? Or even my friends? No ofc not. That’s social suicide. Don’t tell me it’s my personality when I literally was told by a doctor to have midface hypoplasia. I’m not whining about this to anyone, that’s why I posted on Reddit.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 05:23 PM
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Yeah that’s my plan. I’d honestly say there’s a good chance I’d rope though. I tried once before I was even blackpilled. And I kinda don’t want to contribute to a society that treats uglies like me like shit. I hate this rollercoaster of emotions. Just an hour ago I was accepting this shit and now I’m just back to freaking out and wanting to die. Finding love is a normal thing that normies come across naturally. A few fucking milimeters of bone missing has brought me a life of perpetual loneline…
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 04:40 PM
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Yeah I don’t think I’ll adopt cause it would be too hard being a single parent for me. I’ll check out that Buddhist thing. Just sucks it’s come to this ya know. I’m giving up on women and anyone who gives me shit about it, I’m cutting out of my life. Even if it takes being alone, I can’t deal with criticism about it anymore.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 04:25 PM
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When did I say that I went for 9/10s? I couldn’t even fathom myself doing so. I know my worth or lack thereof and have only gone for ugly girls. It’s over man, plain and simple. This is Reddit tier response, “muh lower your standards”.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 03:39 PM
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Based reply. Not telling me that’s it’s not over, is what I like to hear. That’s my plan man, do I what can to forget about it. I’ll tank my sex drive with some antidepressants, then pursue my career ambitions and hobbies. Not really looking forward to this life though tbh. Kinda wanted to have a wife and kids, but it is what it is.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 03:36 PM
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I’m gonna need some good cope for the next four years. Also I go to therapist, have done so for a long time, had lots of other psychiatric treatment, and it’s fucking bullshit. Ever been in inpatient care? they treat you like shit. Though I’m thinking about getting back on the antidepressant that caused the worst sexual side effects for me cause that made the sexual frustration much much easier.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 03:31 PM
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I’m sorry bro but you’re just wrong, heard of Ted Bundy and Richard Ramirez? Both rapist/murderers and have had tons of girls fawn over them. My personality is not bad. If I have lots of friends (male and female) then my personality isn’t the issue. As for incels, yes a lot have bad personalities. But it seems like most that do have autism, which causes personality traits that are often unattractive to women. These problems are inherent to the condition and aren’t any easy to fix than looks.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 03:25 PM
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Missed out on teen dating. Going to miss out in college cause it won’t be fixed by then. Still will be bad post op and probably won’t succeed unless I make money, but even then it’s not like someone is actually attracted to me.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 03:20 PM
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Sounds like you have some of the same problems, it’s just you’re not as unattractive, so naturally it’s much better for you. Also I wouldn’t doubt that you are actually attractive and are just saying that you aren’t just to make feel better. Our situations do not compare. My jaw problem is not even just aesthetic. Ya know I play a few instruments (guitar and keyboard) and I wanted to start singing, and am naturally shit at it. Pretty sure it’s the maxilla constricting the airway, just another th…
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 03:18 PM
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You got a girlfriend in highschool, our situations do not compare. You had a hard time getting over someone, I have a hard time getting over never being able to get someone. I know you mean well, it’s just you don’t understand. I’m in a good school, planning to make money. I’m taking biochem and in premed track (good chance I won’t stick I through) and planning on either medicine or pursing graduate degree that’s pharmacology related. But it doesn’t mean much to me if the woman isn’t actually at…
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 04:39 AM
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As I’ve said earlier, I don’t think going from a very unattractive person to a minimally less unattractive person will do anything. Being a still unattractive male with no experience or confidence is going to work out. You can argue that not trying obviously won’t yield me any results. And that’s true. But my odds seem so bad and repeated failure takes it’s toll on my mental health to the extent where it’s not safe for me. I know that acceptance is the healthy thing for me. I mean I’ll probably …
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 03:26 AM
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I got a scholarship to a good college and am pursuing a pre med track. It’s good cope lol. Anyways having women like you for money doesn’t really cut it for me. I’ve had friends with rich ugly dads get cheated on. I don’t doubt that’s a common phenomenon. And I want my partner to actually be attracted to me (lol), not want me for money. But this is what I plan to settle on.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 03:10 AM
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Face is definitely the most important indicator of attraction. I much rather have an attractive face missing a limb than to have a midface deficiency like myself.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 03:07 AM
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Well I’m not average, but allegedly in medical need of jaw surgery. I think most incels are too fatalistic and under the idea that average men can’t get gfs. I think that’s not true and also what we call cope, it’s easier to accept it if you think it’s more normal. This unfortunately is not the case for me. I’m quite ugly. Left to cope or rope.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 03:05 AM
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It’s just sad I miss out on this integral part of life. And our biological purpose to reproduce. But I like the honesty, this is what I want to hear. Also if you’re suggesting that a hobby will fix me. I play guitar pretty well (sometimes I’ll do covers with friends live). Let’s be honest, hobbies won’t ever make up for a significantly unattractive face.
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 03:03 AM
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Fair enough on the incel point. Go to any forum and you’ll see some bad stuff. I should’ve specified more like, idk virgin shaming. I will say this though. With the perpetual loneliness, we go through periods of anxiety about it, depression about it, and hate, which usually ends up being against oneself and or women. The hate is like a means of catharsis, I’ve done it before. It doesn’t justify it, but I hope it makes it understandable if you know what I mean. As for the physical problem, I don’…
/r/ExRedPill29/07/21 03:01 AM
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