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We would either get along like no one else or would kill each other. No in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:21 PM
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That war of the sexes is mostly online, honestly, if you talk IRL to a lot of people, you'll find they're normal. And it's more of a people issue than a sex issue, as in my previous example. The view of those who care having gotten the message and those that don't care will continue have been well received as a perspective though. Which also explains why from a woman's eyes, things seems to get worse, because only those that don't care will approach. It just sucks for everyone, and my point is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 09:30 AM
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I'm a man. I don't hate women, that's stupid, I love them. What I am, however, is me before being a man. I'm tired of being told I should pay more attention because three cretins have been assholes and somehow I should pay for it. Those who cared about paying attention now are (if still doing it) and those who don't won't stop. Even my feminists friends with more than two braincells don't call that themselves nowadays. No one want to have to answer for the worst of a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:59 AM
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The point imo is to get enough confidence to know what you're doing, which is kind not flying after 25.
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 07:49 AM
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Yeah, there gotta be the sex itself and the enthusiasm. If it was purely about the sex itself, guys would just go to SW. But they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:02 PM
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Meh. People are entitled to whatever standards they want, as long as they don't whine about the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 05:39 PM
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Yeah, leave her immediately. Usually it's the hoe phase ending around 27-28, but here at 22 it just means she want to be taken care of and don't have to study, there's a lot of red flags about self discipline here. Also I'm sorry, but who the hell consider having kids "soon" at 29 ? Like you've got to have perfectly landed a career AND a relationship in your 20's.
/r/AllPillDebate30/09/23 09:07 AM
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So what do you think of what even the worst criminals in jail do to pedophiles ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:35 PM
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It's just people that are salty they don't get to have their cake and eat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 07:50 PM
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I mean, it's more of the younger generation having seen the old ones getting fucked over and deciding post covid work doesn't actually matter
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 04:16 PM
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As a man : Yes, being hot is a plus. Talking hot hot here. But it often comes with either a load of issues or a naive outlook on life that would have me look insanely cynical. Not being a bitch, sure. But I'm looking for a partner, not a fucking carpet to step on. Working out on her own is a massive plus. Besides keeping herself healthier, it shows discipline that a lot of women don't display, and is a very easy way to get ahead. Compatibility is key. Lifestyles which are heavily influenced by t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:16 PM
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With that outlook, do yourself as well as others a favor and don't try to date until you've done enough therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:09 PM
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Though that subset of men have all the power and the rest mostly crumbs. These men sleeping with a lot of women is what gives hope, but if the incentives are here, it's pointless to blame anyone to act for their self interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:48 PM
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Nah, they signal their interest, then men decide whether to engage or not. Sometimes you have to spark the interest too - in the case it's possible. But understanding who is going to waste the time of both to approach is half of the game. And there are guys who just don't care about the odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:46 PM
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Wasn't the whole point to compare the same woman at 21 and 30 ? I can go and find a hot woman in 30+ that took care of herself no problem relative to other woman, and probably take an average to ugly woman at 21, but like... Yeah. Let's not pretend the same person is as attractive in their 30's than their 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:35 AM
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Ain't considering myself redpill (or anything for that matters). I think the key thing is that I don't think I'm risking much in saying enough men would rather go for that provided it's the right person. Yes, she gotta be at least somewhat attractive, and depending on who you ask, that can be somewhat balanced by having qualities that don't make you feel you're in couple with another man (notably competitive traits that are actually required to compete with other men carreer wise). Being ltr mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:09 PM
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The friendzone does exist. But it only exists because men let themselves be put in. Like fuckzone for women. Friends to lovers is a trope, and also a thing. But there's a nuance to it : the guy gotta be at least a maybe for the woman. There is friend, and then there is "friend". I've been in both of these situations, and I can tell you this is two entirely different worlds. Also you have to let your interest known quick, once you're registered in her mind as non sexual, you're better off looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:55 PM
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Being around men (or women for that matter) that are on a different social class than you is a major disconnect on a lot of things. How you were raised, how you behave, how you perceive money, even habits that are basic things for you. Partly because it affect in a major way your lifestyle (which is actually one of the biggest obstacle to compatibility), partly because you cannot relate. People that are thrown around a different social class (my own experience here, both higher and lower) feel u…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:40 PM
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Well, even suggesting irl to try to ask out have gotten me quite the backlash, so you know, that's why this advice exist as is. Not half bad either. But either way,go for what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:20 AM
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You don't have to outright ask out a guy, but if you seriously want that (committed relationship), find out what kind of guy is the one you want to get, then where said kind is likely to be, then how to insert yourself in that environment. There's also the whole girl game that's basically about giving the guy the impression he's initiating when he's really not. Also, be aware that social classes divide for lifestyle is real and brutal in terms of incompatibility. Sure, you might get lucky, and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 09:54 PM
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Wouldn't you rather go for an escort or something to not deal with the hassle ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:17 PM
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That's fair, but I don't see a guy like that putting himself in that kind of environment
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:44 PM
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I'm quite curious as to why those men would advertise themselves as such
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:36 PM
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The truth is that to get sex (leading to more or not) you gotta be the right guy, in the right place, at the right moment. And there's all there is to it. Also there's going to be ugly women that won't give you the time of the day, and attractive ones that will. And for all the muh chad talk those that spend their days online have, it just come down to chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:59 PM
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It takes 3 years if you want to get to really know a person. It's not about this, it's about determining whether there's interest or not. If not, it's just self respect to move on, especually for a guy. Ain't nobody waiting for 3 years with a tiktok attention span.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:57 PM
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Since women mostly send signals, it's just up to a guy to act oblivious to it or not if she makes it obvious. That way it doesn't wound her ego too much if he doesn't, but she can still rationalise it however she wants. I don't know what's hard to get about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:07 PM
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First date is kind of sus, usually if there's nothing after three, that's where most guys dip. But more than sex itself, it's the escalation towards it that's important imo. There's people you wanna jump on immediately and other you want to take it slower, and it's fine. And there's a middle ground to these two, I'm not about the extremes. When I had actual chemistry on dates, I can tell you that every game that usually exist go out of the window. It's just organic progression.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:04 PM
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I'm afraid -and it shows in that thread- that I don't think what men would define as actually showing their emotions work like that. Your question hit way closer to home than you wanted, sadly. Trying to keep up with what you intended for this thread though, the only times it worked well when was I talked about a non problem so she could feel I opened up. From testing, it actually stressed women I've known if I talked about something actually bothering me. Best thing I've received are the proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:08 PM
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I think he's talking about the difference of meeting before he's successful and after
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:39 PM
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If you want your girlfriend or wife to lose respect for you, think of you as less of a man, or make fun of you behind your back to your family and your friends, by all means, go ahead and cry, show your emotions and be feminine. It's your own fault when she leaves you. The fact that enough women are using your own securities you confided in an argument is more than enough reason to look emotionless. That, and others trying to look for clues on your face.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:23 AM
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I've told an ex I would say I'm single when dating her because otherwise other women wouldn't leave me the fuck alone. I didn't had to explain her why.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 06:22 AM
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That's... Certainly very loaded. Ain't pulling the pin on that hand grenade. Have a good day !
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:16 PM
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People are way less socially competent nowadays among both sexes, way more afraid and going less out. Obviously focusing on the less than 30 because to that sub life after that doesn't seem to be a thing. I think it starts with even getting opportunities to socialise in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:50 PM
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Videogames are never about being attractive to women though. In fact, there's plenty of hobbies that aren't in itself, but those get the most bad rep for how attention siphonning and time consuming it is. I'd also say it's about balance, like much things, but very easy to get carried away with. If you needed to sell the console to be done with it, I can see why it would be even worse than usual in your eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:42 PM
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It's a matter of what is rewarded to be regarded as traditional, if we're looking in the context of success with the opposite sex. I don't really care for what should be, I'd rather work with what is, otherwise the conversation is often pointless. I think it ranges from very nice or very unfair depending on who you are as a person. The only leeway you have as a man in what work would having a more egalitarian type of relationship, but there's still a lot of typically traditional things you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:08 PM
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It's really not the roast you want it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:09 AM
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To be fair, the women who ever asked me for advice - only speaking irl here, were more looking for validation than actual advice. Doesn't really help, and I can see why other men wouldn't have to bite the bullet. Obviously, this absolutely goes both ways.
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 05:26 PM
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Implied in my country, since it's, you know... Where my own experience come from. Courteous, more like hellah judged by others, yeah. That would be more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:42 PM
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The video is rage bait. It's not even a sex thing, if someone disabled, pregnant, old, you get up. It's like holding doors, courtesy on the most basic level.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:36 PM
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It's mostly people whining that they don't get handed over what they think the most attractive people get. What is discussed here is great insight into subtle subconscious decision making. Almost no one is keeping an actual checklist of this and that. You'll probably find people like that though, but all that tell you is that you should avoid them, so it doesn't really matter in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:40 AM
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Let me put it this way : gold diggers are to men what fuckboys are to women. You can get a relationship/sex technically easily but it's never about you, anyone would do. What a steal. Not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:34 AM
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Unironically take a good stroll outside, it helps when those feelings start to pile up. I don't think we should really care though, the only real divide is between social classes, not sexes. The thing about attention is that it's true that it's technically not for men, but in case there are men they could be interested in. Do you dress the same for a party where there are women and the evening with the boys ? Same deal. I've crashed a party once with a few friends where it was obvious there woul…
/r/AllPillDebate05/07/23 08:46 AM
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Not OP, and it might be obvious nowadays, but I've always been told that what mattered was to be nice, myself, and the right one would come along. And not myself in the sense of my best self, just that being lazy would even be enough. Now, I didn't need TRP to notice that in every goddamn Disney movie, the guy was hot/rich or ended up to be by the end of it, but there clearly was a disconnect between what was said and done. Best advice I can give to anyone is to plug their ears and open their ey…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:29 PM
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I think he meant more the influence of feminism than actually them. Companies are the ones bending themselves over to appear politically correct. I doubt that actual action had much to do with it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:23 PM
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Flip it up, and say "porque no los dos ?"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:42 PM
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Not OP, but I think what really happens doesn't actually matter. The issue is the FOMO, and that's what happens as soon as they think when something get an easier time than themselves for basically no cost. Women experiment a similar thing about social media, too.
/r/AllPillDebate04/07/23 08:20 PM
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Yeah, that's what I was getting at. I'm more than happy to do my best to make a difference, and I know I already did several times. But I also got a few burns in the process. A nurse once told me you can't help anyone with a broken back. So yeah. I do get your energy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:57 PM
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Nah, they think it will, but even if they'd somehow get it, the insecurities would make them very jealous. If you want the end all be all advice for this sub, it's literally to get outside and grab a few beers in whatever social setting would fit you the most,instead of trying to find chimeras in people that aren't there. It's hard to stay mad when you honestly have a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:49 PM
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I used to think that, but like for attractiveness I just realised it's assuming people feel the same way I do, and have my determination to get back up. That moment where it felt insanely awkward, I understood that if reddit that's an echo chamber, if only a quarter of the people on here have it as bad, I get how much and why they're struggling so badly. Now I'm more than happy to be uplifting if I can make a difference, but at some point you understand that you cannot help someone who doesn't w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:37 PM
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Living those things is one thing. These being a dealbreaker to any person is also a thing. But while what you listed is your circumstances, what IS the red or green flag is how you handled it. I have no intention to pay for someone else being an asshole, but working out yourself (and through therapy) one of these issues can be the greenest flag ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:23 PM
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You've got to factor in that a lot of people on here are neurodivergent. I'm on the very light side of it, could be way worse. And I've seen full on autistic people irl, or even moderately where I do play. Not being able to read the room is a way bigger deal than you seem to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:19 PM
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As a guy ? I take a stroll outside, and go to have a laugh at a bar. Not to hookup. Just to chill and have fun. You're too shy ? Well, perfect time to learn. Afraid of the shame ? Well, you don't remember most people's tripping themselves, most people won't. Some assholes might try to get a kick of wounding your ego though. At some point you'll understand that some people just live empty lives. The good thing is that you notice that there's something wrong. Of course, don't miss the signs, but d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:13 PM
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The BMI is universal, but I rather like using body fat percentage as a metric. I would fit that description. I'm in the end of my 20's, and I'm pretty pretty fit myself. Biggest indicator of genetics would be my father and grandfather having barely any fat on themselves. Thing is though : they work out regularly and eat well, so I do the same if I want to put all the chances on my side. I can easily get a six pack, but on the flip side, putting on any mass is an absolute nightmare. I won't get a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:04 PM
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You mostly care about what you don't have, it stops mattering once you feel you've got enough. The real reason irl when asked that ? You don't want to be the one to break the news and get the wrath, which is entirely natural. Do you want to be the one telling an ugly woman why she can't bag a relationship with a hot guy, or a guy with the self respect of a fucking carpet why he can't get a woman ? And that last point doesn't even go into the hookup part. I don't think you want to be the one to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:25 AM
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As a good rule of thumb, if people make an issue of something over and over and content creators can base their activity off that, they're trying to sell you a solution that doesn't exist to a problem. Otherwise there'd be no reason to talk about it much and thus money wouldn't be made from the issue.
/r/AllPillDebate03/07/23 11:05 AM
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You just say you're busy everytime she asks to go out. At some point she'll get the memo and will loose interest herself.
/r/AllPillDebate01/07/23 11:22 AM
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I wouldn't use any pill to describe myself. The tldr to what I'm going to explain is that it depends what you call prime, and I don't really feel that way. Longer part : combination of several factors for that age specifically. It's also amplified and used as revenge fantasy because hate is easier than to look in the mirror for consumers and easy clicks for content creators. Youthfullness still offset somewhat ugliness and poor diet/exercise. For the same reason, a more "having fun" oriented min…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:31 PM
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There's value in effort for yourself, but that's just rationalizing your situation. And I'm usually the uplifting one in my friend group. Getting potential value and life lessons, thus outcomes potentially better compared to the attractive ones that glide through life ? Sure, even if there's a lot of if in that sentence. Saying there's nothing better ? It's a reach. That's like saying there's nothing better than to not get pretty privilege. And it gets even funnier if you replace attractiveness …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:06 PM
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Good for you if that's your experience, yeah. I also specified the context for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:00 PM
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At some point you realise the same topics are being recycled over and over
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:59 PM
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I’ve never understood how men who have tons of casual sex say that they want a partner with a low body count. Surely you're not asking ppd about that, right ? But I don’t get why men hold women to higher standards than men when it comes to body count. Because women let them/do not care this much about that ? And before others start whining as to how they do themselves, it's often that it's men that can afford to behave like that because other things are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:49 PM
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I think the best bet is meeting an exchange student, or though internet. And not really from a third world country, but the only way for it to be genuine is both thinking you win (and that doesn't mean the other loose). She gets more slack than from her culture, and same for you. But if you're a foreigner doing sex tourism there and there, you know what you're in for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:25 PM
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I certainly do not want to fuck anything coming my way, that's gross. Do I want to be natural at what women reward though ?The lowest effort I have to put in to be attractive, the better. Getting in a relationship never has been the hard part. Worse even, in my experience, if I'm upfront that I want specifically a relationship, I'm taken way less seriously. I'm not exactly a masochist, so.... Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:20 PM
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That's the country that have safety nets next to the buildings of your company, you know. Not in the US myself, but I think we're slowly headed there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:13 PM
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When I talk about a friendship that's suspicious, I think about the super close ones where they talk nearly everyday. That's a big emotional load on the man, and he often burn himself on more than he thought he could handle. I don't think you should be looking at women for that, people overall are atomised. It's lucrative to have that much workforce. Even more when you get them to care about their work. I get you though, it's not rare that we joke with male coworker that you gotta have a woman, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:09 PM
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It gives creators click and is easy content to make on and on and on, it's not that deep honestly. Also complaining is a way to avoid looking at oneself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:04 PM
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You shouldn't have sex for other reasons than wanting it. Otherwise you're the ones that make it transactional, and you don't want that. I mean, people want what they don't have. Once they have it, they don't really care as much if at all. And sadly, it's not about what you have or are yourself, but how many people there are that have what you want. A typical example is that I doubt that men will care that you could pay for both. You're already in a very high tier without the asexuality, but goo…
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 04:01 PM
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I think you can and should be as uplifting as you can, but because whether it's worth it is a mixed bag factor wise of your personality and attractiveness, I ended up believing it's up to everyone to decide to do. I kinda worked out everything before finding the pill stuff, it's just an organized way to summarize notes. But it's also self care to call out those you give advice and keep doing nothing but complaining. It's fine if they want to bury themselves in self pity and nothing about it, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 03:55 PM
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Your culprit would be covert contracts and not voicing desires and expectations beforehand clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 03:44 PM
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Sex in a relationship is to men is what money is to women : a prerequisite that isn't the be all end all, but nothing is happening without it. The only reason to really have sex is wanting it. You want it, you do it. You don't, you don't do it. There's no reason to overthink it. On loliness, it sn't the same thing for men and women, you can't really compare it. The only thing I feel I can give you an actual advice is to see the men that are actually in front of you, because that's your reality. …
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 03:43 PM
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That sounds like a very good life honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 03:33 PM
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Putting a lot of your money in stables shares and getting small dividends so you can live comfortably even if very modestly is kind a life goal for me honestly. How did your wife react when she learnt about your actual wealth ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:17 PM
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Yeah, that's my point, it's natural that it's not the case (as goes with any sentence that contain the word should or normally). I just tend to not really care about discussions of how things should be because they don't lead to anything productive or worthwhile (unless you're in a mindset of asking yourself what you can do about it). The interesting thing in this context is that those guys are often upset because they thought women should have acted this way. I don't think they would be as much…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:51 AM
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Honestly that's like saying you shouldn't be upset a guy you wanted chose a woman 6 years younger than you because of that and gave you bullcrap explanation 747373929. It's technically true, but not as easy as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:44 AM
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Okay, can we just talk about one thing ? When people complain relationships are transactional, what I've increasingly been hearing is "why can't I put no effort whatsoever in anything and be loved ?" It's not as cold as a math equation, but there will be some boxes you gotta check no matter what. The sooner you accept it, the better off you will be. A parent's love is supposed to be unconditional, but if you push far enough a loving one, it will go of their own safety to cut contact with you unt…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:39 AM
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Yeah, you gotta move fast, or you lost the opportunity. And friendship is possible, but there gotta be not any attraction on any side, and the chances of that being a thing and staying the same is, uh... Yeah. And because of how the dynamic work, it's suspicious if a man is very engaged in a friendship for a while. Most men aren't built for the energy it takes to be in frequent contact as friends. Though I'll say I've gotten along well with women I slept with once and we just both decided there'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:32 AM
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Supply and demand. But even without that, there's the fact you gotta move fast upon meeting, or you disqualify yourself as a sexual being, and the effort required to get that possibility back make it almost never worth it. Also if you're in the same social circle you gotta be careful, because people find drama interesting when they have empty lives. In general though, women tend to repress very strongly the idea of how many men would sleep with them if they asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:26 AM
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Kudos to you for trying to help, effort always gotta be appreciated somehow, even if it lead to nothing. I think the issue is trying to solve behavior as an equation, which is the comfort zone. Except people don't work like that. It's a probability, not a certainty. And hate to point it out, but having to ask in itself is very unattractive for exactly what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:12 AM
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I think it's one of the innate reasons that drive, but not at all why a given action is taken in the first place. If I want to get money, it's for my own security and peace of mind. I know it'll attract women, and it's nice and all, but even though it's a thing it doesn't register as part of the equation in my mind, and I'd still do the same. It's mostly what I feel for most things, really. Taking care of my face is something I'll do because people will overall treat me better in all areas of my…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:03 AM
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I don't hate them, I just find it pathetic and don't want to date them. It's not even hard to understand for women, it's like whether they'd date a man that has seen a sex worked. I'm getting really annoyed by them advertising that everywhere though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:56 AM
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Most women are rather serial monogamist, somehow I find even worse when i see a woman that have like 4-5 boyfriends a year for a few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:12 PM
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Being real with you ? There's a good chance. But there's also two very real other things that people that don't see the outside air don't account for : the process of "getting good" take long enough that when you'll be at that place, you'll be happy with yourself before thinking how old you are. Probably will regret not having done it sooner, but you could have spent your whole life like that. And second part : that's the economy. Everyone is doing the stuff later. On the career part, there's fo…
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 07:23 PM
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On cooking, the thing is that it's all about patience and not rushing it. And take one dish you really enjoy, not just general theory, or it'll get boring real quick. Do it over and over and over, until you're really happy with it. Pro tip : a good knife is everything, and salt with a little bit of pepper give flavor to almost anything bland. On the not giving a fuck part, I'm talking about the hobby. You'll have to get to that point for dating at some point, but if you haven't been social to be…
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 07:08 PM
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Well, two things that aren't just for getting a girlfriend, but about yourself. I don't feel I got a particular pill, I'd rather share First stuff is related to testosterone. And whether it's the gym or something else, you should go around trying different sports to see which you fancy. Some people spend years finding the good one, and that's okay. It's a journey. Overall, work out. It's hard to spend time having depressed thoughts when you're dead tired. Speaking of tiredness, sleep. Like at le…
/r/AllPillDebate22/06/23 06:38 PM
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To a random person ? Just that I'm not
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:52 PM
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I mean, all in all, it's about having what you want. It's true it's better to have prospect than nothing because it really does a number on your self esteem when you don't have any, but at the same time you don't appreciate something until you don't have it anymore, and it's a really different thing because you have no issue bagging a relationship in most case if you can get the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:25 PM
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I definitely do not use the word single when I'm seeing someone, but I don't say that I'm seeing someone casually to anyone either
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:22 PM
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That's a people thing, not really a gendered thing. I think both men and women know pretty damn well why.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:59 PM
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I don't think calling it double standard is really appropriate in this case. It's more so that the opposite sex doesn't care about the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:33 PM
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Yeah, when it's something you can actually do about and you're not being ressented -paying- for others. There's a whole spectrum for that, and being a therapist is a paid job for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:32 PM
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Emotional labor is priceless, everyone knows that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:30 PM
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Would you want to have to pay in a relationship for the trauma another woman would have been responsible for ? I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:33 PM
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Because it's something men do to feel like they're worthy to date to begin with, I think
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:30 PM
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I don't really care about how much she make, but I care a lot about how much she manage. There's no point in working to get a lot if that's going to be wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 07:29 PM
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Heh, it's people complaining about not having their cake and getting to eat it because they see others doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:08 PM
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Honestly you just have to say the men in the movies are weak as hell from being dehydrated, it's usually enough
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:07 PM
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Which is why you have to be the right guy at the right place at the right moment
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 10:48 AM
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The ones I know are either the best bros ever or the worse assholes around. Usually that speak of their experience with women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:03 PM
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Thanks !
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:56 PM
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Well, most men complaining about the lack of lust is the visceral one, so you know. And I think that getting the treatment that goes with it being impossible is exactly what is being complained about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:51 PM
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There's a middle ground, imo. It's obviously not like eating and drinking, but I do think it impact your mental and thus physical state a lot. Now if I'm unhappy about my situation, I apply the advice that I know work : get good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:46 PM
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My gut feeling hard agree with what you say, but the internet taught me to find even things like that suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:43 PM
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Most women don't even look that good out of bed lmao. Attacking masculinity or feminity is just the easiest out ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:40 PM
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I don't really care about the women themselves, what do you have to say about what you've seen in the cultures for each and you fitted (or not) in ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:38 PM
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Only the top tier, obviously. The difference mostly being that people now know it's a thing. But if you focus on what you don't have, you'll just be unhappy with yourself and anyone that comes your way. So focusing on what is actually in front of you is much easier. Hint : focus on compatibility. Being in lust and having a short term fling, regardless of how intense it is means it would have worked as a ltr.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:25 PM
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I mean, lust fade over time, and life get in the way of things. Sometimes it's not even anyone's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:12 PM
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To be honest it's more of an economic situation than anything else. If someone is entirely stay at home, the load of making enough money becomes heavier on the other partner, that stress them then start a vicious cycle of taking care of less and less around the house. If both work full time, you still have to cover the costs for a nanny which is expensive as hell, but then your kid doesn't see either parent, and I don't think that's healthy. So what make the most sense is that the one that earn …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:08 PM
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Which is why I mentioned it, if you're talking about a ltr I think you'd get up to 60% of men or a bit more that'd get some at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:03 PM
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Without the loaded part of the previous comment, it makes sense that the biggest earner would keep focusing on the career while the other stay at home to take care of the kids honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 04:02 PM
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Don't say that, some of them might get off to the humiliation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:59 PM
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Heh, the guy clearly is young. An experimented guy would have had the exact same expression even if he said that. Add saying nothing to it once he gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:55 PM
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Isn't that the one that also run a marathon for cancer afterwards ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:52 PM
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Lilith, this is the 7th time you've brought "sex is not a need" to class.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:48 PM
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Bro, drink some water, you're gonna pass out
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:44 PM
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Probably 60 to 70% of men wouldn't ever get action if we're talking about pure lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:43 PM
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Can you actually define friend here ? There's a whole spectrum between acquaintances and someone you'd trust with your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:42 PM
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On one hand, it's a good thing that we understand more. On the other, making a profit out of it is... Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:41 PM
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If they're all into it, where's the issue ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:39 PM
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And that's why compatibility is one of the most important things to make ltrs work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:38 PM
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You don't understand, that's her need. Wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 03:30 PM
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Preface, by the time i found the pill stuff online, it just organized better things I had already figured was bullshit and other that did work. It's hard to pinpoint something exactly because a lot of stuff that you hear even when not asking or thinking about it reinforce that. Sure, most people will have had a few conversations about it, but it's at best a small part of the whole thing. What the disparity actually come from is that conventional advice is about finding a relationship, as in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:57 AM
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At some point you realise being called an asshole isn't a real insult. You'll always need to be one someday to someone if you're sticking to your guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:25 AM
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Respect yourself, man. Next time tell her you'll pay for it on the second date if she does pay for the whole thing on the first. It's funny. :)
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 03:51 PM
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I think it depends on how deep we are in the relationships. Being 6 months in or 9 years in is an entirely different situation. And I mean, even though it's nice, we can do a lot of stuff without piv still. I find it more likely she'd have to get on meds that would kill the sex drive. Cheating is just... No. If I need that this badly, I'll end the relationship. There's a special place in hell for these assholes. Regarding porn, lot of women I know do read erotica or outright watch porn, so I'd f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:09 PM
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I don't think it's a duty per se since life and shit happens, but that can on both ends make or break a relationship. Best way I can try to frame that to get you to understand the why is asking why not paying a hot man to pretend he loves you ? Save a lot of hassle too.
/r/AllPillDebate04/06/23 12:58 PM
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You're right in that after a while, it would indicate there's something wrong with her - and there usually is. The bit about being promiscuous is correct for casual stuff, but committed ? Women in practice would rather be alone. Again, men like promiscuity attractive for casual as it's a sign they're sufficiently lusted after for it to happen, but for more serious relationships ? Heh, not really. It's like if a woman would tell you to fuck immediately without a condom, why would you ? Even putti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:59 AM
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That was my first thought. Thinking about it in abstract is fine, but beyond even how you purely attract someone, if they're not in the same socioeconomic class, just finding someone that fit the bill means to do previous reasearch and targeting that goes well above the confidence the average woman has built over the years regarding approaching someone. They summed it well : it either happens to them or they stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:34 PM
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I gotta watch the whole video, but I think the one in your thumbnail on the right has an interesting take. The key point is that it's an arbitrary measure, a way to weed out other men. But the real thing I'm curious about is awareness about the socioeconomic class, because you're not getting with someone whose social class is very different. Or that'd require to put in work for researching and targeting a man that goes way out of the comfort zone of an average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:06 PM
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Men are repulsed by things that suggest women have been promiscuous. Women are repulsed by things that suggest that a man isn't able to get a woman (doesn't mean being promiscuous in itself is attractive). It's a beaten horse at this point. The sooner you'll accept it's just things men/women find attractive/unattractive, the better off you'll be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:56 PM
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It's just people whining they're not being looked at. And it's all there is to it. Don't think about it too hard.
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 03:53 PM
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I think the highest bar is getting a hookup since you can engage in more serious relationships if you can get there most of the time. Obviously, the skills required to maintain a relationship are entirely different with those for picking up women, but we got to start somewhere, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:47 AM
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Fomo is a hell of a thing. What's worse is when it's justified. Obviously it sucks for those that got their environment ruined and didn't engage in it, but as long as humans are self serving -and they always will -, women will keep having this kind of lust, and men will chase after it.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 11:44 AM
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Dating wise ? Probably men. Even if the probability of not giving up is ridiculous, it's still more than outright 0. It's important to note that one side having it better doesn't make the experience of the other good in the absolute either. The grass is always greener on the other side.
/r/AllPillDebate30/05/23 10:35 AM
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With some top tier men and less frequently on average is the point, I think. The fact women are lustful if the circumstances are right is a beaten horse. To death.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:33 PM
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It doesn't really matter if you did or not, it's the average experience for most, and behold, it molds the environment you live in. And I'm more at ease with human behavior since I accepted that they will always act on their own best interest. Everytime I see should or normally in a sentence, I know there's a reason why what is described in said sentence isn't a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:14 PM
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Finance isn't something you do to get pussy. Those who do are in for a rude awakening.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:08 PM
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I think an interesting point is that most men in their early 30's (which is incidentally what you would gun for if you were to look for a serious relationship that would get to kids) are barely starting to have their fun while most women have gotten that out of their system already. The rest is the classical escaping being much easier, especially if you don't have many opportunities to get ahead. Also, most of the time, someone calling themself something outright is suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:05 PM
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Ain't that question loaded. Why are you insecure about it ? Just don't give a fuck. There, problem fixed. And trust me, the ones shaming the most are women. It's all fine and dandy until it's time to compete for a desirable man. Also, on average, they don't take being rejected that well at all.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 03:56 PM
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You're free to have whatever standards you want. That is, as long as you're not being an ass about nor complain about not finding anyone that meet them.
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 07:26 AM
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I'm always willing to encourage effort in general, because people are so goddamn lazy these days. And the fact is that regardless on which side you stand in, it's a gamble for the one betting on the other. If you're not willing to take the risk of being left, well, it's also a choice. The reality of it, in my eyes, is that people don't look at each other until they're at their best, unless there's specific circumstances that made them know each other. Therefore, I'm fine with not being noticed u…
/r/AllPillDebate29/05/23 07:24 AM
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Women are more attractive on average, but I think the big thing everyone gloss over is the use of skincare and makeup. If men did it, that'd be another story. Or compare to a woman that doesn't have anything on her face. It's nothing special really. And I mean clever and fitting use, not making a clown out of yourself.
/r/AllPillDebate26/05/23 09:21 AM
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Considering a feminist more likely to be a freak in the sheets haven't failed me so far. In my experience the louder they whine about equality the more it's compensated in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:39 PM
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To be fair to most people, even if it was done correctly in porn it would be hard to see that you keep the "inside" of your hand soft to not apply pressure on the windpipe
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:32 PM
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More like they won't pass the opportunity for most of them, I'd say. But if that's your whole reason for being here, that's massively unpleasant
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:48 PM
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You do need context for everything. And you'd be better off not filling in your post and leaving the question if that's all you wanted answered. If I take the general question, the answer will be different whether we're talking about casual sex or in a relationship. In the former, I'd say at most a few times a year with some long dry spells in between. In the latter, can go to a few times a week to none depending how it's going.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:08 PM
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I don't fancy being poisoned to ensure I'm not able to get up, but you do you, I suppose
/r/AllPillDebate23/05/23 03:03 PM
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Maybe don't make a post asking for a debate if you want an echo chamber then
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:02 PM
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Your entire response takes things from context to prove your own point and agenda. How should I answer your question then ? You need to read the whole thing, and not only the snippets. I never said I feel like I am very unattractive. I literally quoted the whole content of your message. You never said that, but that's strongly the feel you give off. Along with wanting to be hear that others had the same experience as you did. And yes, there are Henry Cavill types, who just look so good, they wal…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:54 PM
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Attraction ? I don't think you need to look deeper than that, really.
/r/AllPillDebate23/05/23 02:28 PM
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"Where have all the good men gone?" Busy doing stuff that produce actual results.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:27 PM
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Well, on that one i'll blame the simps, not the woman. Because anyone would act that way if enabled to this extent.
/r/AllPillDebate23/05/23 02:24 PM
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Every guy will proudly tell you (lie to you) about how he picked up girls in a club or bar, but this has never actually ever happened to me. I don't see how the two are mutually exclusive. So maybe I am really, really, really unattractive or it's just an ego thing. Dunno about your attractiveness, but a negative outlook to begin with won't help your chances, that's for sure. I don't think going to a bar and finding a girl to hook up with is something that happens often, if at all, and especially…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:22 PM
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I don't think you'd enjoy someone that would have a fetish for making as weak as possible (in bed most of the time) so you don't go away
/r/AllPillDebate22/05/23 02:08 PM
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It's more of a possessive and obsessive trait, and you don't want to be around that kind of crazy
/r/AllPillDebate22/05/23 11:20 AM
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Everyone want to be around someone that's happy with themselves. The opposite is also true.
/r/AllPillDebate22/05/23 11:16 AM
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The point is to rant, that's all. In the actual practice, it's up to each individual to determine where the diminishing return point is and do the effort they want accordingly. I do know that if I focus on what the top have and I don't, nothing worth the discussion and thinking will come out of it since it won't lead me anywhere at the end.
/r/AllPillDebate22/05/23 11:14 AM
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The thing you have to get is that there will be someone that get the spot regardless with you. So even if they're massively unlikely to get lucky, it's better to shoot the shoot and not care too much if rejected. They didn’t care to read and sent a message anyways. Deleted. Maybe they read and thought that they might as well try anyways. Lastly, men were saying things they wanted to do that included my listed limits. They talked about anal, rimming, and other things. Hard no, delete! That, right…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:10 PM
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Having hobbies in itself ? No. Being passionate about it and knowing how to convey it ? Absolutely. I know you meant physically, but it's still true. Though funnily enough, times it caught women's attention was because I give no fuck about their own opinion. If it makes you passionate it at least make people curious after hearing about it a few times.
/r/AllPillDebate18/05/23 02:14 PM
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There's more girls than I would like to be that get the hots for because the man has a girlfriend, sadly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:26 AM
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Absolute wonder about what is in a human's mind. It me. The fact I need a break every now and then signal me I'm good with everything. But to be fair, just going out and talking to people does the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 08:44 PM
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Well, I'm not sure whether the post is about emotional labor itself, but that's another thing. The reality is that men and women cannot be truly vulnerable with the other. And although the part about loosing attraction is, well, a part of it, it doesn't paint the big picture. Men just bottle up so much stuff and don't talk about it compared to women that are used to disperse it along her social circle that when he talks about it, she's not ready for the weight of the sheer emotional distress tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 08:31 PM
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I don't give two shits if they're unattractive for platonic interactions. Being weird is what make me want to distance myself. And not the good kind of weird. If it's not in a platonic sense, I'll let her know I'm just not interested. I don't feel it affects my dating life in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 08:19 PM
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I think there's a balance in all that, but genetic lottery and how poor your social skills will entirely determine whether you stand to gain anything from the red pill. Anything that make the effort worth it that is. It's why I can't dismiss two guys that have opposing takes on the red and black pill. Each is probably optimal for both of them.
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 10:50 AM
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You know, it's the classic debate of relationships vs sex. Yes, for sex, men will go beyond low. And simping make the prisoner dilemma that much worse. For relationships that's another story. And the ones that would take anyone aren't even on the list, desperation is universally unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 10:35 AM
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I actually think it's an apt comparison, the visual porn is too catered to men's desires in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:28 PM
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While you're correct, the issue is that to get into that virtuous loop, there gotta be a first positive experience. You can't tell someone to start liking to do something if they haven't had positive reinforcement first, only negative ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:37 AM
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I was skeptical reading your title because my rebuttal was going to be that unless you're stupidly hot, there's no real cold approach that work. There needs to be some form of rapport built beforehand. So my argument is that the title is inaccurate, but at the same time you need to drive it home, so I get why you worded it this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:13 AM
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To be fair he never technically said that it would make him angry. Still, ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 11:00 AM
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I think the nuance to the post is that you've got to do everything you feel that would make the effort for the return worth it, but not more. What you're absolutely in the right to feel, is that looking at the game itself, you don't want to play under these rules.
/r/AllPillDebate11/05/23 09:11 AM
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Actually, the attractive trait in all that is that they ideally want a man that have the ability of being beyond violent, but also can have impulse control. That would be the best of both worlds. Since it's naturally hot. That's kind of what the subconscious is gunning for, buuut I called this package ideal for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:48 PM
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Hard agree, I just find niches these days. I'm pretty decent physically, but nowhere near attractive enough to not embarrass myself in the street or old. That's my two no go zones.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:13 PM
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I don't find doing that really hard, but it's finding yourself in the first place in a situation where you can do it is incredibly difficult. It only takes one man or woman that's obnoxious or too pressing to ruin the sexual tension, if not to build it up at all in the first place. I'm not disrespecting myself at sausage fest, and a woman that's with several other women are actually the most likely to cockblock, if she's not being too harsh just to not look like a hoe. Otherwise I agree. It's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:03 PM
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First date is just a good joke. The rule of 3 isn't bad, but the real answer is that there must be escalation towards sex with each date. Would you feel offended or put off by a woman having a 2-3 month no sex rule? Do you think women should do this to filter out guys who just want to sleep with them? People that don't interest me don't offend me, to be honest. But it's mostly that if you have to impose on yourself a rule, it's that your natural behavior won't be enough to deal with the situatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:22 PM
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Man, I wish. Stupidity turn me off sexually though. And i know I'm not a common occurence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 01:41 PM
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I find it extremely interesting that people went from thinking you were depressed to angry. I think the thing that hold you back is being autistic honestly. The telltale sign for me is girls that you didn't talk going out of their way to tell you you're creepy. I also got a better-paying job and my own house. That's where you're winning tbh. If there's anything I could realistically advise it's going to be similar to another post : find a niche of women into you for whatever reason (the sad part…
/r/AllPillDebate07/05/23 10:38 AM
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Honestly, as soon as a someone game is a thing for both women and men, even if it's drastically different for obvious reasons, you just start thinking it's how it is and get on with it. It sucks at time, but it's like dancing : there's a way to go about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 11:08 AM
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The thing is, if you've clearly shown interest as a man and the woman isn't interested, it's going to be a waste of time at least 9 times out of 10, and you're better off not wasting time courting someone that already told you no. The way you depict it is very romantic for sure, but there needs to have tension to begin with, and if she doesn't make it clear he's in the "maybe" zone near the yes, it's not worth it. Not to mention both men and women would find the guy that keep trying after being …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 10:17 AM
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Everything that's appearance related I've done for myself is something women would approve of, so it's the last thing I'd be self conscious about. That'd be more showing off nerdy hobbies right off the gate. Stuff that I typically do with the boys. And the thing is, women don't have to like it themselves, but when they see it's something I'm passionate about and talk about it when the context is set up, it nets more approval than anything else. It's a matter of how you present it really. But I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 10:10 AM
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Cis men do not get pregnant. They do not get an equivalent option because there's not an equivalent situation. Isn't using biology as an argument going against equality ? Because then everything that women experiment that men don't shouldn't make the case for any kind of special treatment since there isn't an equivalent situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 07:35 AM
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Take a moment for yourself, sometimes when this sub is too much, I take a break, and go to see my friends, at the bar, for a game ... It doesn't matter. Don't let people that just want to spill their bitterness affect you, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 10:35 AM
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When it's not organic. If there's no reason, I'll assume issues and leave it at that. If there's a reason but it doesn't feel right, it does not bode well. If the reason is fair but the disparity is too important, we weren't compatible sexually to begin with. I don't think at all on that matter. The vibe says it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:39 PM
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If someone has to consciously put rules for themselves, it signals that it's not a habit they have, otherwise it would be organic and you'd just do exactly how people that are well adjusted : checking the vibe and making decisions this way. But it translates very poorly to armchair talk. To me it signals another set of issue. And anybody ain't got time to waste on someone that doesn't show interest. Also the focus on piv is weird. Sex is much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:23 PM
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Being fuckzoned as a woman is being friendzoned as a man. You let both happen to you.
/r/AllPillDebate22/04/23 10:32 AM
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All good ! I think it's pointless to worry about things that happened out of your control. But how you handle it tell about who you are as a person for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:23 PM
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I would call that a dealbreaker. A red flag is something that's suspicious on it's own, but doesn't outright disqualify.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:19 PM
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"Yup, yeah, damn, you're right, I told you that bitch is crazy" can get you through more conversations than not 😂 But seriously, I think it's more about being able to tell when advice is wanted and when women want to just be vent all in all. For the better and worse, this general advice exist because men default to the former when a problem is talked about
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:18 PM
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Individual green and red flags are but a piece of a puzzle, what matters is the overall picture they depict together
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:15 PM
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I mean, reverse is true as well. Just gotta go on a dating app if I want plenty of that, but I doubt it'll be doing me any service. The reality is that for anyone that have any experience of dating healthily, the vibe you have with the other and how easily you can talk seriously is what makes it work long term. Things you can't take into account when online.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:19 PM
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The Emma stuff do for the average woman as much service as taking fds as an actual example for men tbh. For men, it's the bar for relationships that's high. And we can say what we want, but women dislike someone that's not picky on that. It reeks of desperation, which is universally unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:53 PM
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I've been to nursing school for a year. This ratio is hell.
/r/AllPillDebate21/04/23 01:28 PM
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Hips to waist ratio and weight is way more important though
/r/AllPillDebate21/04/23 01:27 PM
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And per the way you worded it, I would have assumed you may have thought you would get this kind of answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 12:34 PM
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I know what I require as a treshold for both sex and a girlfriend, and it's mostly women that place themselves on the scale. Per the nature of this sub, you could also imagine the ones disagreeing with you on either topic aren't the same as the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:54 AM
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Unless she's willing to learn and use her brain, pass. I'm turned off by stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:33 AM
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It's just a man that's really sought after by a lot of women, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 06:57 PM
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For women, it's to bring her down in the eyes of attractive men so she's not part of the competition anymore. For men, it's a way to get back at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:03 PM
1

Both are chubby, which is a nice word to say have at least some fat in them, going for the top. Yeah, face and body are going to be relevant if that's what you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 05:00 PM
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I'm sorry, is it considered weird that women who use a hookup app are looking for attractiveness ? This isn't about denying that women like attractive dudes, it is merely suggesting that the the minimum looks threshold for what passes as "attractive" in men is much higher. Because men and women aren't working the same way ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 04:58 PM
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It's perceived as an ideal because no one in practice would be reasonable to go through with it, all it does is signaling issues. Ain't nobody got time to idealise women anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 04:56 PM
1

1) Is that a hot take ? 2) It requires skills to have as either sex, but for obvious reasons it's much more logical on men's side. Women's game is a lot about making men think they are the ones making the decision. 3) Friendzone is to men what fuckzone is to women : you missed your shot because you were afraid to be rejected. 4) Men don't have the time to romance women like that. Otherwise you're never going anywhere. Keep things moving until you're there. It's normal. 5) The less you think abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 04:53 PM
2

Lot =/= all
/r/AllPillDebate30/03/23 02:38 PM
1

Everything is about sex, except sex, that is about power. Power come after money. Make of that what you will.
/r/AllPillDebate28/03/23 12:36 AM
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I'd say some women are too, but in the end it's a people thing, not really a sex thing. People here are either mad, bored, or fascinated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:32 PM
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Heh, it's alright, you get used to it eventually. Sad in itself for sure, but it is what it is.
/r/AllPillDebate27/03/23 03:30 PM
1

And how many passed the 300k bar in the first place because they had kids to raise ? Path of least resistance is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:25 PM
1

I mean, we treat people like we are treated by them and think they expect from us what we expect from them. Origin is egg and chicken, but what's sure is that it's a self perpuating circle both ways, like confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:22 PM
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The one that are fine for you are overweight but blessed genetically to have the fat stored in the right places. And it's attraction, you can't negotiate that. Same thing as how women treat shorter men. It's a reality of life, and in itself fine. It's when people bitch about it while doing the equivalent (and let's not kid ourselves, we all do on some level) that I'm starting to find them... Fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:19 PM
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My man, no matter how hungry you are, and I must insist on that. There is such a thing as a hot crazy scale. And we respect it for a reason.
/r/AllPillDebate27/03/23 03:13 PM
1

Pretty much yeah. The pain about it comes mostly from not being able to have it, it's very different if you know you can at any point but just not bothering for any given reason.
/r/AllPillDebate27/03/23 03:11 PM
2

That's my takeaway from your post
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:08 PM
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Nowadays, a huge lot of regular men identify as such. As for me, I identify as chaos, chaos.
/r/AllPillDebate27/03/23 10:47 AM
2

How do you think your life would be if you actually had a high libido with your views ? (Which there isn't much to comment about really) The most annoying part about it is that when you want to chill and do something else, it's still here. But it's kinda weird, because for men it's tied to wanting to do things at all.
/r/AllPillDebate27/03/23 10:42 AM
2

Nothing. Anything that isn't genuine is why people are pissed in the first place. Also if you think everyone is angry, a stroll outside can remind you that a silent majority just doesn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:29 AM
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Yeah, but now there's the internet to hide behind if your social skills are poor. The hard part for me is actually getting into a setup irl that would allow me to meet people, and I'm not having any trouble socializing, people post covid just have a different vibe. I know if I wanted a fwb (ons are a nono for me, it's just shit), ideally I'd have to get into the bar scene, go from circle to circle butterfly style and find someone I vibe with. All while making sure I'm not leaving that bad of an …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:20 PM
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Probably because building a stable situation in this hellscape is a better use of my time than spending Saïd time chasing pussy. Also I'll probably have to get to it one day again in a few years if it keeps going in that direction, but for now I adamantly refuse to disrespect myself by going on dating apps. And that's coming from someone that had no trouble integrating a group in a bar pre covid even when alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:10 PM
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Half the guys on this sub want a virgin, while the other half constantly say they'll ghost a woman that doesn't put out in 2 or 3 dates. Are these the same guys ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:33 PM
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Nope, but I think it's pretty fair to say we're on our way for that, considering how risk adverse the coming generation is. Of course, if we're talking strictly about casual sex here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:42 PM
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I would, yeah. A second appreciated is no time wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:15 PM
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And it's why resting is good in my books. I don't have to perform. In its own way it's very much performing for a woman too. Not having to be always on top of my game so to speak. There can be plenty of romantism and intimacy in what I described though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:57 PM
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Really like that quote, I think you won that thread here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:53 PM
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Just like to actually rest for once, and be able to chill. So every now and then, have an evening where I don't need to be thinking/reminded about what I need to do. How would you like being romanced? Do you want to get dined out? Do you want her to buy you unexpected presents? What is your idea of romance as being the receipting side of it? Your examples are usually valued by women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:31 PM
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Fucking up is one thing, and as long as you learned from it, you're good. It's what matters. I know it sucks when there's so much potential... But a dealbreaker is a dealbreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:44 PM
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If you need to hear that, putting your hand away from a stove that's heating up doesn't make you a coward. It means you avoided being burned. Don't blame yourself for dipping when you see red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 05:18 PM
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People will be more alone than ever. But they won't be "better" than humans because we all know deep down real validation > the rest. People might understand you'd go this way, especially if you're less fortunate genetically, but both sexes perceive not being able to have a relationship with a human as something that puts you on the bottom of the totem pole. Though I expect this will make new generations less and less able to compromise and have poorer social skills, people will in the end seek …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:00 PM
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Found about 13%. Mostly excluded the kids related statuts and also overweight. I'm from europe, so it's very hard for me to make sense of the income, and there's way more fat people in the us. In practice I'm turned off by stupidity, so it alone makes me pretty picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 07:02 PM
1

About what ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:58 AM
1

Sure... If you can find a way to prove it. Because I personally don't think it's possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 01:12 AM
1

There are experiences and lines of thoughts than a woman wouldn't have or experience though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 11:19 PM
2

It's not even uncommon or hard to spot, you very easily see what someone's reaction to (even the idea of) having something in the mouth is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 11:11 PM
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Because it feels different than it does for you I'd say ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 11:09 PM
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For sure. Though they have makeup/skincare on, if either men started to do it or they stopped the story might not be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 11:07 PM
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It's not like men like to trauma dump on women, but when they usually have no one to talk to, it's what happens. And sound surprising considering how many solutions instead of platitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 08:01 AM
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Going above the hot crazy scale. Like really above.
/r/AllPillDebate26/02/23 07:44 AM
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People aren't owed anything is what I meant. My point about negociation is about if you want something, you gotta give the party in front of you a reason to give it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:21 PM
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Because you see the difference in treatment and how easily it comes to someone that's much more attractive ? I just don't fancy being a carpet to try and get women's attraction. I'll go for it if it seems interesting, even with no guarantee and risk of rejection without any problem, but I'm not about to play a game that's not interesting to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:00 PM
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There's nothing that isn't. Even a parent is going to kick their own child out if they do enough shit. And if they don't... Well, it's not going to end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 11:35 AM
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Because there's no reason women who have horrible experiences with men would have tolerated that if the attractive man wasn't attractive ? It's not a matter of all, it's a matter of enough. Though I'll give you that being ugly =/= nice. Ironically, lot of these become jaded over time and harder to be around, reinforcing the stereotype. Comes from there and projection from their own behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 11:34 AM
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Basic negociation is about what you can do for the other in the future, no what you already done. There's merit in getting good at something. Then you can chill a bit and negociate more easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 11:31 AM
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Yes. There are some who can't get a relationship because of either not getting women (as in understanding) or another flaw, or they're just not interested. But having game for bagging someone and keeping someone are two entirely differents games, so I think it's worth mentioning. There are some who I feel the issue would be more in keeping said relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 11:29 AM
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Nah, it's that you also have to "get it" by yourself. No one is going to explain you game. And to be fair to women, it's all you being good at it or not in their eyes, it's all feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:10 PM
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Yeah I don't think I've really experienced something like that, I'm sorry that you have. All good. I'm used to it now. So in an ideal world, do you wish that you had someone you could open up to safely, or are you just as content not opening up so long as you're not being pressured? Just don't add further oil to the fire and we're good. It's just what it means to date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 04:00 PM
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I'm not sure if I can agree with this, not because I think it's not true but because I'm just not sure. I'm my own relationships I've not been criticised for my emotions for the most part, but I wonder if other women do experience this? Keep in mind it's relative to my own experience, and it doesn't mean it's sunshine and flowers either. Just imagine that everytime you wanted to talk about a problem that would require you to be vulnerable everyone would tell you to shut the hell up and deal with…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 07:41 AM
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Preface : am man, and both come with their set of pros and cons, so let's not forget it's a package and not a goddamn buffet where you pick stuff. First you can afford to not deal with fear of rejection most of the time as you can put the burden of approaching on men. Second you get cut more slack on more things, whether it be getting shit done, dealing with your own stuff, or in general. Third you get the woman is wonderful effect, which is absolutely true in how both sexes assume the same of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 07:13 AM
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Let me buy my own place, then I'll entertain the idea of having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 06:55 AM
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1 - I mean yeah. 2 - I mean YEAH. Shit's expensive, it's not even funny how easy life is money wise if you don't have kids. But society give a lot of flack to women on other things because it expects them to get to it at some point. Like it expects men to get back up and back to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 06:43 AM
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Men not wanting to play the game is mostly women's faut tbh Even I see a lot of wrong with that, so come on, you can do better.
/r/AllPillDebate24/02/23 06:40 AM
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Women, as in the collective. Because men will gravitate towards what work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:02 PM
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I wouldn't be in that kind of relationship to begin with. Hell, that'd disqualify her from being a fwb 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:30 PM
1

I'm turned off by stupidity. Do I need to say more ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:20 PM
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It's always about nuance. If she doesn't care about money at all it probably come with its own set of questions. If she only care about money, door's open.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:10 PM
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Reddit tend to have echo chambers. For this community, I feel like a lot of women tend to be between 30 and 40 - spread is way wider for men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:06 PM
1

Mid 20s for me, my cuttoff became 19 when I was 23, and now it's nearing towards 20. Below that... I just can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:31 PM
1

So many problems because of that. Watch the nail if you haven't already, it's a great video.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:30 PM
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This argument come usually from women who doesn't understand the separation between looking for a serious ltr and more casual dating. Or men that don't actually have experience. When you get to a given age, younger women become insufferable to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 03:26 PM
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Women haven't got better at it either tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 03:05 PM
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If men isolate through videogames, for women it's small social circles and social media. It's pretty safe to say it's a mixed bag, I think. It's absolutely true it's a nightmare to get an organic opportunity to even get to talk in a good setting, but men (and women as well) got way worse at interacting with each other as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 03:03 PM
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Sadly for you, any men that will really do that is either a statistical anomaly or haven't lived enough yet. Lots will know how to pinpoint their feelings though. Just won't indicate anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 12:03 PM
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Each is felt differently, and both should be treated the same. By telling them "off you fuck".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:59 AM
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I pretty much agree on anything, but I think for a lot of men the issue is rather securing enough opportunities to be able to afford being healthily picky. Which is sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:55 AM
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It's self reported. A woman could definitely say she's taken while in a casual relationship with a man that will write down single. Very different meaning for each.
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 11:43 AM
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If it's self reported, I'd be curious to see how one define taken and single.
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 11:42 AM
1

I'll just say that me before and after the skincare look like two different skins. And i don't even do any kind of makeup.
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 11:41 AM
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The reason men will never have a body positivity movement is because other men would never support it. It's actually in women's hands. And by in women's hands, I mean if they don't date these guys, it's worthless. I mean men are the ones who make fun of the women's body positivity movement and harass and ridicule women who are plus size and comfortable in their own skin. I mean men HATE fat women and they make that clear, so I'm not sure why they turn around expecting a similar movement for them…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:39 AM
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Yes, it's been a general feeling I've observed. I'm curious though, would it be the same if either women weren't wearing makeup/doing skincare or if men did it like women (to the extent it suits them for the former, that is). Because... You know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:32 AM
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To be honest it's just another variation of being sold the idea you would get equal opportunities and realising it's a load of bullshit. And thing is, even for hardcore players.... Well, no one want to play a game you cannot win.
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 07:26 AM
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Well, the cross point in time is usually around 28, where the woman is done enjoying life on her own, and when men start having things. Sadly it's a few years too late as said men are usually used to being alone and/or are starting to enjoy life because.... Well, women give them the opportunity there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 06:46 AM
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It's only important when not going well. Like most things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 05:56 PM
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There's nothing wrong with you. You want a woman that's not a doormat. What women often don't get properly, it's that while it's admitedly nice, you don't want to have to constantly be challenged either, sometimes it's just about relaxing. It's about balance. Very much like for a woman, finding a man that she can be freaky in bed but still respected as a person is hard to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 05:56 PM
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She is able to help you at minimal risk tk herself bc this man is just pinning you down and punching you. Look, when we fight, and I mean actually fight, we don't think. Adrenaline is pumping, everything is muscle memory. Even if she's not directly fighting, there will be no coherent thought about it. You go for it or you don't. And that's fine. The only thing you can do about it is to prepare beforehand if you're worried about it, then it's up to your brain and yourself to evaluate. Now, what I…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 05:20 PM
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Obviously you'll get more chances the more attractive you are, so let's get it out of the way. The sad truth about game is that having it will at best slightly increase your chances and at worst make no difference, but not having it will fuck up your odds for something that was doable.
/r/AllPillDebate19/02/23 05:11 PM
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I don't think working that way is an issue, people are meant to mingle before relationships. Hell, fucking around as well. The issue is getting less and less opportunities for it to happen in a proper context.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 05:09 PM
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Good relationship > single > Bad relationship The article argues that society often sends the message that being single is a bad thing and that people who are single must be unhappy or deficient in some way. If people aren't making kids, yeah you've got a problem on your hands. Society will always tell you it's bad regardless of what it is. Women aren't bothered until it's time to make kids, and the pressure as well as hormones are the harshest entering the 30s. For men it's trickier because eas…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 05:08 PM
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I am asking because I constantly see the topic of "daddy issues" and "not having a good family" as a red flag. I like the puzzle piece analogy : it can be a part of the picture of a red flag, but also paint another picture with other pieces. As in, it's important to put in context with other things. In my case, for example, everytime that I tried to keep peace with my mother was a fruitless effort. It depends on how you handle your relationship with your mother. You don't currently talk, but how…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 04:49 PM
2

Women are right. You might want to ask guys of the 60-70's how well it worked out for them to go by that. Less participation in the labor force. More men spending time improving their appearance. There's a drop in productivity for that because you don't need to work as much to sustain a family, duh. And yeah, men that actually do skincare and a bit of very basic makeup is usually a big improvement. Either you play the game or not, obviously.
/r/AllPillDebate19/02/23 04:45 PM
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Would be me giving attention. "Exist" in the sense of registering the interest, and not being immediately being written off (in which case best to move on). Though it's fine even if she doesn't immediately interest herself, as long as the idea isn't yuck in her mind. Might be worth mentioning there's obviously a thing as a context to signal it, you can't do it in any social setting and expecting it to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 04:41 PM
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Getting a lot of attention at once, at least enough to signal you exist in the mind of the given woman
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 04:16 PM
1

It's more a problem if that's the only thing she value about you. But someone not in it for the money won't make a fuss about a few cents here and here. Who got the energy to argue over that...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 09:59 AM
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To be honest those putting so many arbitrary rules are those who never got to really rely on their experience to make healthy choices, either by lack of experience, or just being used to doing things differently. That being said, being straight myself, there definitely are a few things you want to be clear on to avoid these kinds of problems. But like... Every relationship will have some of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 09:56 AM
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Well, forward attention isn't usually motivated by a desire for friendship. Nor for a romantic relationship - at least in the beginning. I mean, there could be guys that are skipping straight to romantic interest, but if I was a woman I'd think said guy is idealising me and it can probably spell trouble down the line. Which in my books is a very solid reason to reject him regardless of the rest of the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:48 PM
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I think it mostly comes down to making interest clear without having to outright say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:44 PM
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Which is why the less time you waste, the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:39 PM
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Don't be too agressive, but don't let her register you as friend, because by then it doesn't matter how attractive you are, you won't be seen as a sexual being. If you're rejected, you move on and don't waste time. There's also a balance and a way to go about it, it's not 100 or 0 with no in between. my SO and I were friends for heckin 5 years before anything happened". Why is that? It'd be interesting to see how he really saw her from the beginning, and whether there was tension or not. Many wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:38 PM
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If I've got to blame men for one thing, it's how little the thirsty ones respect themselves.
/r/AllPillDebate10/02/23 09:05 AM
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People only use men and women to describe people they find attractive. Come on, it isn't new information.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 09:27 PM
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Well, it's certainly not fitting in this day and age. I do like to see how my dates treat the waiters though. Usually an eye opener.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 01:57 PM
1

Well, equality is a joke. There never was. Like it or not, but society give slack to women because they expect them to do their part when times come : become a mother. I certainly don't care about the well being of this country or any country for that matter. As you should. But for someone that's literally dumb (not in a negative way), or needs to be howled orders to be functional, the military isn't a poor choice. People will also argue "Wow so you want innocent children to starve?", but why sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 01:55 PM
1

I like to compare it to a piece of a puzzle : it can be a sign, it paints a picture, but it's got to be paired with other pieces to be conclusive, and might fit in several paintings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 01:46 PM
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Also they're both actor of their own decisions but also victims of the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 01:44 PM
1

50/50 is totally fair up until it becomes time to start a family. Isn't it women that want this the most ? Then the women has to go through unbalanced hell. 3 years of hormonal changes, permanent body changes (both aesthetic and functional), potential health risks, extreme discomfort, etc. If she's that much adverse to it, she can like... Not ? How do you plan to carry half the burden if you refuse to contribute more money to the family? I don't think people entertaining these thoughts unironica…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 01:42 PM
1

Look, if someone ask me the way because they're not sure of said google, I don't mind ? But yeah, got no money. I dunno man, I just think she's hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 09:24 AM
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No, the equivalent is fat women.
/r/AllPillDebate28/01/23 12:30 AM
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Plenty of people can't/ don't bother reading body language. Plenty. Oh, in this specific case it's fairly frequent, I'd say it's more seeing it but not caring anyways. proaching a woman in public is an entitled behavior. Unless she looks at you and smiles at you or is in a place like a bar where people approach others. Otherwise, you're being disrespectful and entitled. Period. That'd be pretty nice if that actually was reality. Except it's not. And you know it's dishonest to talk about other in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 12:29 AM
4

How are there enough high value men for all of the women who feel entitled to them? There are not. Everyone want to think they're high value though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:28 PM
1

It's annoying in that, you can say no, but being bothered and regularly forced to decline people is obnoxious. Once I recognize the body language, and I see it way before they come to me, I just cut them off as they start to speak saying I don't have money. Just get used to it tbh. No, it's multiple. On the regular. And when it's not being hit on, it's being stared at, watched. Constsntly in public. So kind of like everytime I get in a suit then ? And she said she resented not being able to wear…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:26 PM
1

Pump and dump is overrated tbh, you want someone that know how to get you off and that you can be freaky with, be it committed or not. So not really. But yeah, people that are the most mad about hookup culture are just jealous they don't get a slice of the pie. Kinda like how women calling other women sluts for wearing a dress is just how they can't wear well the same type of outfit.
/r/AllPillDebate27/01/23 10:57 PM
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They don't even need to be attractive tbh And I'll give the exception to the ones that asked me directions. They're the reason I don't shotgun a polite way to say fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:50 PM
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Imagine if every single woman that noticed you, spike to you, or acknowledged you in any way was about to ask you for money. Sorry to break it to you, but for total strangers that's already the case. You notice the body language way before they start approaching. Sadly though, I'm the type to go down with the ship if people try to go to the deep end, so I can't relate to that feeling of danger, even though I technically know it well. No one want to fuck with crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 10:42 PM
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On dating apps, duh. Shut the hell up, why would anyone meet people without an 46533 months prior appointment ? For real, friends of friends, preferably in a bar setting (not nightclub), and take it from there. Easiest environment. Social skills gotta follow though. But the thing about that is it's pointless to ask because women are never going to look for that actively, from their perspective it just happens organically. Then it's either you kill the thoughts you've written in italic, or keep b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 05:17 PM
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Lack of enthusiasm is a massive turn off for me. Don't think I need to say anything else.
/r/AllPillDebate25/01/23 12:52 AM
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Lol no, they get their life in order. Those who have fun during all their 20s aren't the ones that are successfull with their career and finance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:01 PM
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Well, 30 is because it's a correlation of women starting to look for someone seriously and for some guys to have their life seriously in order by then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 03:57 PM
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I love women. You don't just hate people like that per se, you dislike behavior they exhibit. Haven't made a post or harbor strong feelings anymore though. Do you deep down see women as equals? Men and women are different, and the sooner people get that, the better. But it's always perceived as one is inferior for some reason. Do you expect to do half of the work at home? why/why not? People should do what they're naturally gravitating towards. I hate doing the dishes, so I'll do them so she get…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:15 PM
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Wait until we get to see the Venn Diagram to say that.
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 12:38 AM
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Tbh this person might have been better off not doing it, and it's not even about desirability, which is still a huge impact on mental health. Lots of autistic traits in women are just passed as what he described in the post, quirky and endearing, but men get absolutely eaten alive socially because of it.
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 12:29 AM
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The wall is when she have kids.
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 12:20 AM
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Sadly, being family doesn't mean they'll listen to you more. And yeah, same. In the end, it's mostly looking for problems somewhere else to not address yours. Don't take too much energy. I just initially give advice on the off chance one actually wants it, and when they come back, I just ask on an update, then what changed compared to earlier and what did she do from what I said. Spoilers, it's almost always nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:19 AM
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Entitled sex starved men, sex is not a resource. It’s like asking women to let you eat them just because you’re starving Entitled love starved women, love is not a resource. It’s like asking women to let you eat them just because you’re starving Kinda work with money too. It doesn’t MATTER how bad being sexless makes you feel, how unfair it is, the implications on society blah blah blah It doesn’t MATTER how bad being unloved makes you feel, how unfair it is, the implications on society blah bla…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 12:16 AM
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She literally couldn't think with her brains, and years later, still get herself in problems she's the only one responsible for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 07:07 PM
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Yeah, but while the difference is there, it's about consistency in how you treat the matters. You can acknowledge differences and say that it's normal there's stuff that isn't perfectly equal. Or you can say in the name of equality these differences do exist, and there's stuff to be corrected to get to an even outcome. Both are valid takes, have their own part of controversy, and it's fine, as you can debate the specifics. However, you can't blame anyone for calling you an hypocrite if you start…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:52 PM
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Heh, I've been a nurse student, could say it's more of a group imbalance thing depending on the field. Though I'll give you if you go anywhere where there's a lot of money, men are perceived as more competent with it. Might be why the complaining is the loudest, haven't seen that kind of whining for equality when it comes to blue collar jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:43 PM
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Men love whores. But they want their women to be their whore. And time is cruel for women, as rough as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 04:35 PM
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Because there are plenty of people of both sexes who idealise women. But being "exciting" and "fun" give the tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 04:32 PM
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Looks and weight are going to get your foot in the door. Personality is going to keep you inside. Career and age is going to define compatibility in our lifestyle. N count I don't care about, because that's one of the causes the personality is wack, and I don't need a number to put a feel and opinion on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 04:29 PM
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Anyway... I don't get the logic. Everyone has a right to change, grow, refuse sex, etc. etc. I get that. However, I don't how you can make sex seem value-less when you're having casual sex... but when you meet the guy of your dreams, now your sex is deemed valuable and must be protected by waiting. Don't want to be perceived as easy, because she'll be less respected. Even if, indeed, it doesn't "make sense". Just take it for what it is tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 04:24 PM
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And it's THOSE women that men envy and shame. Men envy women for what they get, they don't actually hate them. Hell, women are the ones that slutshame. A guy might be frustrated he doesn't get to fuck a woman in a skimpy outfit, but he'll shut the fuck up if he believes it might help him to fuck her, and that happens a lot. Why do women shame the outfit of another women ? Because they can't wear said revealing outfits as well. If a man complain about that, he's a liar, and what it actually compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 04:20 PM
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Feminism is a word where everyone will have their own definition and perspective of it, but no one will agree on what it actually is, and that's going to be most of the debate on this sub. How are women oppressed exactly? Dunno, ask them. Not having their cake and getting to eat it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 04:15 PM
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Is getting sex offers from strangers who probably hate you, don't care about you or would fuck anything really good? Well, men and women work differently. Try being at your peak libido all the time with a voice in your head constantly going "do it do it do it". But more than that, people desire what they can't have. Of course that's natural you wouldn't care about what you easily get - and it's natural btw. does iit replace actual love and friendships(whether platonic or romantic) and success? W…
/r/AllPillDebate09/01/23 04:07 PM
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Yeah, there's a lot to unpack. As long as you're happy, I guess.
/r/AllPillDebate09/01/23 03:56 PM
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They're just not feminine, they're slutty and impure. You're still saying you simp for girls you perceive as virgins. The reason virgin girls are better is they're more pure and less corrupted and sexual. Very common in culture where that thought is the norm to do a lot of anal and oral. Still a virgin. What does this make her ? Also, a lot of women are downright freaks but very shy. Its both more sexually gratifying to have sex with a woman who's not inherently sexual and lacking in knowledge t…
/r/AllPillDebate09/01/23 03:52 PM
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Mh ? Didn't downvote anything though. And nope, things that aren't absolutes confuse people. Easier to remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 08:15 AM
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But my take is that she's still fucking toxic, so why is she given so much attention by men who then swear that "ALL women are like her"? Haven't watched your link, but it's probably because she's both attractive and toxic that she was picked for said video. And see Amber Heard for the bullshit people can allow attractive women to do. What I really want to understand is why do men here hurt themselves by labelling every woman to be like her as per AWALT terminology? As a result, you'll miss the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 01:25 PM
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Hating over the web is pointless. Not to mention, exhausting to do. Keep that for those irl who actually deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 10:56 PM
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People dislike unattractive people. That's all there is to it.
/r/AllPillDebate07/01/23 05:04 PM
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This seems to be the crux of the problem: women want relationships, not casual sex. Would be more accurate to say they want relationships more. And not with everyone either, but we know the refrain by now. Why do men get so hung-up on relationships? What really is the problem with “strings attached”? Often, if a woman want a man enough to fuck him, unless it's a on the moment, she's going to want him for a relationship. The reverse isn't true, requirement more relationships being higher, we also…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 12:51 PM
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I don't care for either. I just deal with what's in front of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:26 PM
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Well, I'm in my mid 20s, so millenial here. Since as long as I've been able to talk, I've been told we were in a financial crisis. When 2008 happened, apparently that was a once in a lifetime thing. Then COVID happened (which hurt because being crammed in 18m2 for a while wasn't my thing). Then whatever is happening currently and still brewing is... Well, happening. In short ? It's just another monday for me. Why shouldn't I fuck as many people as possible? What need have I for a real relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:23 PM
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organizing his Yu-Gi-Oh! cards. Well, if that's not me. Most men don't realise it, but there's a lot of benefits to going to local tournaments, both as a hobby and for the mental well being.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:37 PM
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You don't last in a hobby you're not really into, so I don't think it really matters. But everyone have their own hobbies. It's more an attempt to find ways to meet women that aren't hookup apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:35 PM
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Nah, they've got to adapt too, but they did differently. The say light switch effect didn't come out of nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:28 PM
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Oh, don't worry, it's not rare they know, but just decide to gloss over it because it's more convenient, whether it be conscious or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:27 PM
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Looking a bit around in the thread, I see there's a lot of you finding unfair that men find this not okay, because let's be honest, you want to fuck other men because you find him too small. Now I'm not here to moralise you , you do whatever you want in your couple. But if that helps and you aren't attracted to being cucked, taking from a message you posted, imagine if he asked you do to the following : A few things: I would find it incredibly hot to get knocked up by a bull and raise the kid wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:10 PM
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Yeah, I do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 04:51 PM
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I don't do this for the exact reason it makes you compare actual people to chimeras. I'd rather deal with what I'm actually dealt.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 03:31 PM
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I get your point, but less baggage has been generally true (not to say there isn't baggage) in my experience, and it does seem to resonate, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 03:29 PM
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That's not the same for you. Reverse both and you have how man perceive it. Maybe that helps ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 03:26 PM
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I know what he's saying, but I'm also making my own point, which I even mention in the first post, but I wanted my answer to be more interesting than to say "touch grass", so you know
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 03:26 PM
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Missing the poin there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 03:22 PM
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Nor will you be 100% sure you won't die by crossing the street. I dunno what to tell you, it's this incredible thing called taking a "calculated risk", and knowing which part of you is your brain talking, and which part is the libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 02:11 PM
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What I meant is that I don't engage in the kind of behavior that'd put me in that situation in the first place. I would like to have children if I find the right person for it and in the proper circumstances, but if it happens it happens, and if it doesn't it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:56 PM
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Easy : I don't marry her in the first place (and the whole having children thing in case it's unclear). Marrying and banging are two different things. The ones that ignore that deserve what's coming to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:48 PM
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Would probably help you to relate that most men if I said how they feel about sharing their woman is similar to how you'd feel about your man romancing other women and emotionally connecting with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:13 AM
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Sounds like wanting to have the cake and eat as well tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 09:43 AM
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In my experience, it's because pushing that trauma and judging is an extremely common thing. At some point, you just get sick of it. I also think you overestimate how much men value what you call relationship experience because you base it on how you value that yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 09:12 AM
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I'll be damned, been a minute since I've seen someone making something positive for them out of the blackpill. As long as you're happy, wishing you the best !
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:26 AM
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Chad is the one that's capable of getting women with incredible ease, and fit the personal definition of whatever it would require in the mind of a given person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:00 AM
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Yes and no. Being no nonsense is mandatory on some things, but the basic idea is that guys don't want to be the ones to have to pay and deal with a trauma they had no part in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 12:58 AM
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It does exist, and that's when the guy that just got rejected accept to be "friends" while fully knowing he's not fine with it. But it's something you do to yourself. As to why women think it's imaginary, it's because it's pretty common for them mistake attraction from friendliness, or turn a blind eye to it even though it's in the face (getting more attention). It's just the manifestation of both people turning a blind eye to what things truly are despite knowing full well the position of the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 12:53 AM
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I have zero patience for losers. Do people have patience for the nagging bitch you are ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 12:46 AM
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On the web dudes are more likely to brag, yeah, but let's be real, the red pill work if you are at least slightly above average. If you're under average, you still see results but the gap of potential on what you can achieve is huge. It's also easier to not believe how much it can have helped then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 10:32 PM
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When and how it suits you, then ? Because I'm pretty sure there's people that could have gotten you uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:57 PM
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Who's to say you haven't met them and felt annoyed in the same way people get annoyed with you though ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:54 PM
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Well, how you feel at their behavior is probably quite similar to how they felt about you acting this way. Sadly, it's reading the room. There's a time and place for everything. And discussion about sex is... Err, a nono.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 07:53 PM
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To cut clean on that point, if a woman is at least 18, I'll refer to her as such (Can call it young woman if you want, I really don't care). If you're talking about minors, I think the tendency is self explanatory, and there's no room for debate - it's gross. If you're talking about young women (18-20), combination of revenge fantasy and indeed looking for less experienced and easier to shape, which I personally find gross if the preference stay at the same age over time. Because there's a point…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:33 PM
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If they're attractive, I though this was a given to insert into any sentence by now. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 10:44 AM
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Men are wired to be competitive, not cooperative though. Most of what men complain about women tend to be about what they reward sexually - the only incentive that trumps it all. It doesn't really matter what or why, but as long as it's rewarded, an incentive exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:07 AM
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Women are shamed for promiscuity because it's easy for them to get sex, and men for virginity because it's not. We know this story. Though to correlate from your experience it's more in the acts than the words because it's supposed to be wonderful. But do try to see what women say behind each other back, you see interesting things. Except, beyond a certain point, because it's easy for women, if she hasn't found someone, the issue most likely lie within herself. That much is usually true. But it …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:17 PM
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So what do you think? Is being tall, fit, good looking, and white, a massive advantage in dating? You're trolling, right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 03:12 PM
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Sounds like mismatched timing in the libido, but from the wording in all that, this doesn't sound to be like a one time thing or something that doesn't have other issues stacked on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 09:52 PM
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Taking breaks from here for a while once it starts being boring is pretty good I feel. So what things do you, the men of PPD, do that are actually actively nice, as in kind and moral? I'm just kind and generally positive when I talk to people until they give me a reason to do otherwise. Regardless of sex and age. Especially towards waiters or people providing service, now that I think about it. There's so many people that acts like asshole because they're buying something. It's technically not m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:13 PM
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If it's a man, I'd feel he's jealous. If it's a woman, I'd feel she doesn't have enough going on in her own life if she cares about that. But that's just my opinion, just like how that would be their. Just leave me out of the bitching and we're good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 12:03 PM
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I mean, it's just diminishing returns. If a game doesn't give you something fun, you just stop as soon as the novelty wears out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 11:59 AM
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I mean, maybe ? But let's be real, people can't be bothered to care about most of their neighbors, it's not weird they would be uncaring towards strangers. Which is different from being rude, even if it's not a rare association.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 02:59 PM
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Men like it because other women aren't perceived as threatening the competition - bi vs lesbian stuff. Women dislike it because it takes attention away from them and there isn't a thing they can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 11:02 AM
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Could have been asked to both sexes tbh. The grass is greener on the other side though, I feel like both sexes give their perspective because they have a given experience. Both cases are frustrating in their own right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 06:32 PM
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Everyone got shitty social skills nowadays. And yes, women becoming more awkward also impact men's success. As for a man, well. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Whether it's worth taking is up to the individual.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/22 06:26 PM
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It's sad that calling someone red pill has become this to the mainstream. Going by that definition, I doubt you'll see people calling themselves that here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:27 AM
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You know, and I'm saying this as a man, maybe hating those you want a family with isn't a good idea. Same for the other way around. That's exactly like a woman saying you should do the opposite as a proof of love. Not cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:17 AM
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The prisoner dilemna would ensure it wouldn't work even if all people wanted to. To me it's not about the sexes, but who is working and who isn't.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/22 08:46 PM
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Dating seriously and thirsting over is the difference, you know the refrain
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 04:39 PM
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It's like saying women should be upfront about their reason for rejecting, there's a reason it doesn't happen. Then one could wonder why men don't hire hookers when they could, right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 04:37 PM
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Every time you approach a woman, every time you date one, you're picking up a tab....a tab for OTHER men, for the things OTHER men, have said and done. Doesn't that piss you off sometimes? My conclusion is that I ask to women that say that stuff why I should be responsible for stuff I didn't do ? Lots of people can't even bring themselves to care about their neighbors, why would they give a shit about random strangers ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 12:54 AM
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You know I'm saying it's icky when it's clear it's about the age itself more than anything else right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 10:31 PM
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I feel like that's an issue when the person go after younger partners as a preference, because at some point you would find much younger people insufferable. However, on a case to case basis I feel the odds a specific occurence working is fine. It's mostly a red flag when paired with other stuff, not on it's own.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 09:44 PM
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It's a part of a whole thing where behaving this way is an indicator of something else that's attractive, not just the thing in itself. It's not giving a fuck and not making being rejected awkward, switly moving on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 11:29 PM
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I'm absolutely sure some out there would. I do think this analogy get the point across the best though
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 06:21 PM
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It's exactly like asking why you won't pay a man to pretend he loves you and be the perfect partner romance wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 04:35 AM
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If you're asking yourself that, you just explained why it doesn't work for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:49 PM
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Many posts are made around reddit wherein guys claim they are "giving up" or "quitting." We never, however, hear from people who actually gave up or quit long ago. The guys who really did go their way instead of just continuing to whinge. Yup, absolutely. At the very bottom of the human male hierarchy is the irrecoverable social failure, is the "omega" male. I'm talking about the least sexually desirable losers and the ones who are unable to find a women for a healthy normal relationship because…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 10:46 AM
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Recently after watching Fresh and fit I've started to consume Red pill content in mass . Thing is, anyone can label anything as whatever, and it's the loudest that get heard the most. So, echo chambers. To me, the red pill is the sidebar, then you do whatever the fuck you want with it. Not to mention, some things will be different from an individual from another. You can't provide a description and then tell someone what they ought to do . If you want someone to do as you want, give them a reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 10:42 AM
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Meant it more in an a way to get it to the same point, which was what my original message assumed. If you're giving men even lower libidos... Well, we might look at japan there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 07:15 PM
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Can a man truly give up on sex and be happy ? Anyone that comes to that conclusion is on the acceptance stage of grief. You would have had a really rough experience to truly accept it. Can this person really take control of his emotions and be happy ? Or is he just deluding himself and in for a serious life crisis ? Doable, depending on the person. But mostly sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:59 PM
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You pretty much said it. I don't really give it any thought because I don't see an universe in which people at the top would go that much against the current to get rid of an easy way to get money. You know, women spending more and yada yada. If there's any changes, I think I would rather see those happening in the direction of getting incentives for people to have kids and force them to get together (maybe carrot, but mostly the stick).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:57 PM
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If you level up the libido, men wouldn't approach women much or tolerate bitching, I think. Also lots of women would have to get other skills to keep a man around, so... Probably cooking at least perfectly. That last one is sound advice for everyone btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 06:46 PM
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Yeah, sometimes you gotta take the shot and be clear. then move on if rejected. Save time and energy for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 09:57 PM
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I'm convinced that they all masturbate and most of them watch porn. Is there a point to say anything if you're not open to have your mind changed ? Realistically I could imagine the ones with lower libido than their wives would be the most likely to stay off porn. It pisses me off that my husband wants to act like he's above it all. Above what ? But during the last trimester of my last pregnancy, he almost cleared out my conditioner in a couple of weeks. He only has inch long hair! I was just go…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 05:19 PM
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I mean, if the man is socially competent, he's able to get a feeling about that through her overall behavior instead of actually asking a question that is heavily loaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:45 AM
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Knowing the specific N count for men and watching porn in any capacity for women. Both of these are a piece of the puzzle and can be either a massive red flag or whatever depending on the rest. And if you've got any brain, you can figure that out through the behavior. Having to spend every waking moment glued together. No girl, chill for a second, we all need some time to ourselves, you included. People projecting the way their desire work on the other sex - although I see where it comes from. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:37 AM
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More people identify, sure, but there's so few overall I'm not sure it evens matter. I'm turned off by masc features, so probably not. I can spot a trans person a hundred miles away, the hips, face and shoulders feel wrong to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:27 AM
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Have myself ADHD, but it's mostly because it's the most entertaining place to debate these dynamics as the other places are lame as hell - and that's saying something. Also your username is based.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 09:20 AM
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Wait, is anyone taking what is said here as a serious advice ?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 08:58 PM
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I see your point but almost all other ways of dating are also complete and utter bullshit. I mean, that's where we are now. What if we all did it? I think we'd reach a new height of pathetic. Cue to you mentioning your own flyers lmao. If nothing else she'll have some good stories. In my city I'd assume this was a performance art piece of some sort. Of course I wouldn't have to worry about it - she'd never choose to hand her romantic resume to me. See, people would assume something is wrong. Fun…
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 06:40 PM
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INTERESTING🤔 Men dont want their daughters to be doormats like they want their wives to be. Besides the loaded part of the comment, I fucking hope they don't want the same things in a daughter and a wife. Ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:56 PM
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Besides selectiveness of who she hands it with, reality is that when someone does shit like that, you think there's a reason. And more often than not, you would be right.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/22 02:57 PM
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Thank you for saving me the trouble to write exactly what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 07:25 AM
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I mean, that's literally the plot of every well selling romance novel. And I'd give more credit to these books being best sellers than the word of people. After all, it sells for a reason. That being said, it has to be interpreted correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:02 PM
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Honestly I just consider that however it happens, if she likes you, all that laundry list of requirements is going out of the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:36 PM
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We both know it's like a man bragging all the time he's not having anything to do with women... To others.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:34 PM
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Goes back to what I said, those who specifically want a virgin are weird ass fuckers. Ain't no way a man around a decade older that have not purely sexual motives is going to tolerate a 18yo, they are insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:33 PM
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Do these people actually matter to the ones complaining though ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:27 PM
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All virginity hunters have to do is catch them before they go off to college. Are you advocating for restraining freedom that way ? Not something I would prescribe to. But my opinion on the above and the description of why things are that two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 05:26 PM
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Chicken and egg situation though. The complaint is that they're not doing it because of said promiscuity, that is by the way outside of their control. Also specifically virgins are often because of a weird ass fetish. Women that aren't promiscuous is more sensible of a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 08:08 AM
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Because it's what is marketable. When the experience of most people is that most of them feel things that matter is outside of their control, then it's what those most people will gravitate towards. Which is still different from the grifters that will follow whatever is the trend to make money.
/r/AllPillDebate06/09/22 06:14 AM
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Well, find a niche I suppose, and don't be too demanding on the physical side of things. If you're well into a given kink that will probably be a good bonus for women into it too. not a guarantee, but that's the closest of an actual advice I can give you
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 11:20 PM
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Heh, takes two to tango. There's probably a few people for who I'll bother, and many for who I won't. I apologize if this comes off as pity-seeking or incel-y. Don't apologize, feeling down happen. And good bit of advice, everytime you feel the internet is bringing you down mentally, then it's time to cut the internet for a bit and have a walk outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 07:05 PM
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I'm a man, and no. Someone of similar sociosexuality. Someone having experience wanting specifically a virgin can be fun at the beginning, but as it gets old quickly, if he's been at it for a while I'd see it as a red flag. Different from a women that didn't fuck a lot either as there seems to be a fetish around virginity. Therefore that's the thread since you asked if all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:57 PM
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The whole premise is revenge fantasy tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 05:34 PM
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That's the issue with "legal", you don't become reasonable just because you turned a day older. That's the reason a 10 year gap at 18-28 and 28-38 are entirely different. Mind you, some relationships like that could work if both are real on the difference in age, objectives and all, but way more often than not, besides compatibility, there's way too many predators. Be it men or women, I however don't like when a person treat the younger ones like a child when it's convenient. Like when older wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:00 PM
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What you should realize is that there are tons of older women that are single, lonely and desperate. Sorry to break it to you dude, but if the woman took care of herself and is only looking for casual, she still have plenty. If looking for ltrs you don't exist on the radar. And even then it speaks nothing of standards. When I was younger and was broke, under 6 feet, and more towards the beta side, I had trouble myself. You gotta cash in how to grind out that height, you'd make gold. Seriously, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 12:42 PM
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Echo chambers, and me me me mentality. Most of them don't care about what is in front of them or how it came to be, so long they can whine about it.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 12:35 PM
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I feel we need context on this one. I, however, do not need context to remind you to always follow the hot crazy scale.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 10:34 AM
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Men- how important is it to you to buy a house for or with your partner? I want a house/appartment, I'd rather be playing back a loan than rent. But thing is. For myself. Maybe with my partner down the line if I get a good one, but certainly not for her. If the woman you were in a serious relationship told you she had money for a down payment on a house, how would you feel about that? Is it intimidating? Has nothing to do with feelings and everything to do with context, finance and whether it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:03 AM
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I think men should avoid porn in general because it's bad for the brain. It desensitizes you to normal sexual stimuli, and constantly masturbating reduces libido and energy levels for men. I don't think that's controversial though. Is your point that porn is like cheating or that it fuck men's brain up ? Because that's two different topics. Where I think you guys might disagree with me is that I would go one step farther into the extreme and say that masturbating to porn is akin to cheating if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:59 PM
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Without thirst ? No reason to do that.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 05:21 PM
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If it didn't exist, besides probably not existing as a species, why would men pursue women ?
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 09:37 AM
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Err dude, the wall was a mix of some men becoming economically attractive and women that both didn't get as much attention when younger (which doesn't mean they get none, far from it), and rushing to get that said economically attractive dude because they want to start a family. Outside of this specific setup, male thirst is still a thing. If they've taken care of themselves, of course they'll do well. So, whatever make them happy.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 09:04 AM
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I mean, it's mostly dudes that see other dudes get laid that act like assholes. Which also happen to be attractive, hence why it works. Since they can only focus on behavior (well fucking duh, they're not going to do anything about the genetics), it gets the idea that being an asshole is attractive. Except if you're unattractive to begin with... Well, tough luck, it's not going to go through. That being said, in my experience, a good amount of confidence and very dosed amount of actual arrogance…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 01:07 AM
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Don't think I'd get there, but for the sake of the argument... I'd be the one preparing the divorce papers after that, fuck off how much that would cost me.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 12:57 AM
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As long as you're true to yourself, it's sustainable and therefore shouldn't think too hard about it (especially if you get what you need already). I know it works for me, that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:04 PM
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I dunno man, I get plenty of interaction elsewhere ? Maybe it's different for you, but for me it just sounds like trying too hard. Point of the gym was to say I'm going to actually get my own body in shape, but it's just me, I like it as functional and sharp as it can be (mixing fighting sports with it).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:53 PM
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Men tend to overestimate their look. Shocker. Also, attracted to fuck or ltr ? Because that's two different levels. Also what they complain in practice is that women on average don't have a libido as high as they do. It's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:41 PM
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Why do you think we ask other men if they can lift ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:37 PM
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Depends your age, socioeconomic class, and whether you're in America really.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:35 PM
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Let’s exclude things like work where awkwardness can become a career issue.. Three places for me : -Work, obvious. -Gym, you're not here to find people. If anything, the point of the concentration of testosterone is for you to be competitive. -Roommate if you have any. Again, obvious. I technically could. But I don't have the energy to deal with the drama afterwards. I'd rather do something more productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 08:17 PM
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When I date, I date with the intention of having children later. But I don’t want marriage because marriage is mostly anti-male. Same boat, although I still have years before getting actually there. I think it'll boil down to whether I find the woman who will be the mother of my kids or not. If I do, cool. If I don't, cool as well. I don't mind other forms of contract for financial reasons after extensively studying them, but marriage is a fuck no. But to be honest, I'm very upfront that one of …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 04:49 PM
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As efficient as a man, as caring for the others as a woman. Rest in peace.
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 04:26 PM
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Where any and everyone go wrong would be that because they behave any given way, they are entitled to anything from someone. It doesn't matter what, it's toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 10:26 AM
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I don't consider myself RP because... Well, one look at the loudest community, any sane man don't want to be associated with that. Hard agree on that dating apps, but it's more so that not only there's a given subset of women on there that stay on it, but also because it's only good to get opportunities, you are meant to meet asap and escalate, not to use it as a substitute for actual social skills, which a lot of people do. Also, using a third party that have a financial incentive to keep you f…
/r/AllPillDebate02/09/22 09:21 AM
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Mid twenties. Don't think the average is that good of a question since it so massively depends on sociosexuality. I've seen women that were promiscuous, so whatever the number is, often is around getting a new one around every two weeks to month. I've seen others that were serial monogamist, so one dude about every 10-11 months. And others that were in a ltr for years or not interested to date. I've seen men pulling consistantly, others having a few fwb every now and then, some being in a ltr, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 11:50 PM
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QFM: If your GF/Wife said you had to go through a birth pain simulator in order to have kids (for anywhere between 2-30 hours randomly picked) would you do it? If it takes pain away from her, absolutely. There's a direct purpose to it. If it's feeling pain so "I can understand it", hell no. Why the hell would you ask your SO to take on pain they don't have to go through ? Life is fucking us enough already.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 05:37 PM
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Now imagine he asks that because there was a woman whose pussy felt and satisfied him better. How would you take it ? It's indeed about replacing. There's obviously things to do with a fleshlight that aren't about replacing, but as the sleeve is meant to go on the penis, it doesn't have any other intent by design. As for what I'd do, I'd tell her exactly what I told you so she can relate to the message she's conveying. Much more effective to convey a feeling than to explain rationally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 11:41 AM
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I know looks and attraction are important when looking for a partner. Get your foot in the door, yeah. I (25f) always end up as the “best friend” to men I’m attracted to and I can’t help but attribute it to my looks? Is that really the only difference from friendly to romantic interest from most guys? There could be several things. As said above, you're indeed going to have troubles as proportional as the ones you have in the look department. But as you are the friend, so you hang out with them,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 11:08 AM
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Once they find out absolutely, but many companies operate on maxing out the short term. I don't think a firm that wants to profit have any healthy way to go about it long term as far as this kind of activity go.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 10:57 AM
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I'm all for toys, it's funny and fun in its own right. No issue for dildos. The other, however... How do I put it kindly ? Would you feel insecure if I put a fleshlight in your pussy and fuck instead of the actual one ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 10:52 AM
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just to not be sexist, same applies for men. But, we know men generally have more difficulties attaining sex just statically. You kind of answered your own question. When it's something you can do anytime at any point, you're less likely to focus on it. Reason why men with options don't care about rejection (also getting used to it, but it's another discussion). don't you want sex to be meaningful? Well, some don't. For one, I consider that whatever the label you give to the person you're doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 10:44 AM
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Women call you all the time, force you to talk for hours. Ime it's more so they can talk and you listen lmao. They live for emotional validation. Men do as well ? Why do you think guys care so much about getting laid ? It's as much knowing you can do it as doing the actual fucking. My question is: why does it piss off guys? Are they pissed off women aren’t sexually driven or live for sexual validation? Lol @ guys even thinking that in the first place There's being emotional and being batshit cra…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 10:31 AM
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To be honest, the more I live, the more I find incredibly out there something is odds wise are likely to be a thing. Extra credibility for milking as much money as possible and keeping users for as long as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 11:41 AM
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Tbf the career part was probably a bunch of women shooting for a man much higher on the socioeconomic ladder then when it didn't work out, figured it was about the salary because they care about that. When it's probably about the upbringing and habits.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 08:59 PM
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Yeah, everytime a woman try to pull that kind of bullshit, it's my go to at this point. Same if she's putting you in a situation where you can't say anything - and sometimes even not saying anything still put you in a bad spot. There's a bit of restating indeed - wording it raw make it better -, but then by explaining the situation she puts me in, it's defused. And I usually tell that if they can find a socially acceptable answer I'll answer honestly. Spoiler, they never can.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 08:46 PM
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It's more like redpill tied together some stuff I already figured out. Left out what wasn't about me, then gone on with my life. Then it's constantly seeing what works and what doesn't. AF/BB stuff is more about periods in life, but overall if you just discuss relationships (and not with the intensity of an online troll that makes it awkward), I generally observed women wanting a man socially above themselves. Bit trickier for the af/bb stuff because the party girls after a certain age act the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 08:38 PM
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Of course it is, it's the game of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 06:31 AM
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As for love, yeah, it's about men wanting to be loved for who they are because they are acknowledged on what they do. I'm not sure a man need to believe in it. But I really didn't touch on it because it's that kind of word where everyone will know what it is, but disagree on what it is because the definition is highly personal. Yes hitting the gym is great but if you think muscles are gonna get you laid you’re an idiot. It's for yourself. When you start something with expectations, disappointmen…
/r/AllPillDebate29/08/22 06:28 AM
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Gotta define high value then. Let's take it for a spin then. Not every man can be a rich man. Sure thing, that's okay. Not every man can be an attractive man. Sure thing, that's okay. If I put you in a room with a hundred men, only one of them can be a ‘top one percent man’. That's why we have different types of hierarchy, and surprise, sometimes we don't care about women's approval in those. It all depends on what. There are things I'll be good and others I won't. If the game isn't interesting,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 06:17 AM
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I know I thrive in seeing reality for what it is instead of feeding myself platitudes. That being said, two rules : Understand that what is said at the end of the day affect the subconscious decision making rather than being a conscious plot against the other sex. It's part of the context for behavior, not all there is to it. If you feel like you're depressed, close the sub, go outside and talk to people. Even just in general. The advice of looking at the actions and not the words doesn't only a…
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 11:25 AM
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People of both sexes act like a carpet towards attractive people that can afford to be assholes then complain about bad experiences when it's a you problem. Difference being that even if men are less fed the romantic lie nowadays, they're not hammered about the risks associated with women's nature constantly like women are about men's. I think people would be much happier if they observed things, shut it up about that and hit the gym. Then get attractive in the way that is attractive to the othe…
/r/AllPillDebate28/08/22 11:09 AM
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Yeah, I've got no issue believing that there are women that will do well in this kind of things. It's just that there's plenty of women (especially those who don't have kids yet or having had them early) that realise they might have bitten on more than they were able to chew. Then there's the other ton of factors, like the partner and interpersonal dynamic, etc...
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 07:49 PM
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Besides birthing childs, I believe a person belongs to whatever their talent can most shine. Trend would be taking care of people in general, but some would be great as engineer and data analyst as well. If you aren't in a place where you can shine, it's wrong by me. Big career tend to strain most (again, not all) as you need masculine traits to thrive, and if you're a family woman it's not going to end well mentally. And that got nothing to do with what people think one should do or not, but ra…
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 11:47 AM
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Tbh I've had the most positive response from women when I started to use a very small dose of actual arrogance and "sexist" comments (quote marks there) so it checks out. Gotta be very aware of your environment and not overdo it though. It's as typical as when a woman say "men amirite ?", instead of saying nothing, it's a small smirk saying "women amirite ?" and after whatever comes going "correct, I'm a man". Small things that reinforce that you are indeed a member of the opposite sex.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 11:42 AM
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If you feel the need to hide something from your so, that's for a reason tbh. Usually not a good one. Not just not talk about it, but actively hide. And it's up to people to define what is okay and what is not, which matters more than whatever the fuck society tell you you should feel. But yeah, be clear and honest, truth defend itself. Also, don't give reason to people to fuck you over.
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 11:36 AM
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If I'm being real, online dating work as an opportunity for enabler to meet people that you wouldn't irl. The issue being people use it as a substitute for social skill when the proper thing to do is to meet asap and take it from there. I'm against using it for the sole idea of using a company as a third party that have a financial incentive to keep unsuccessfull. Also to note that while many women use old, you're going to meet a more specific subset of them online. I'm usually able to find some…
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 11:33 AM
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I can believe some of them are. Case per case basis. But in theory I believe it as much as I believe a dude bragging about anything sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:05 PM
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More like they give too much slack to an attractive dude that can then afford to act like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:04 PM
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Trp is before everything a toolbox to get what you want. Those who read the sidebar take what is relevant to them and do what they must. An handsome man that's a financial disaster will not have the same issues than one that's not handsome but have their shit together. One might be looking for a ltr and the other for more casual sex, but both could very well end up to trp. A thin man and a fat one will also have different issues for different reasons. But both would do well to go to the gym. In …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:33 AM
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Sure, but activities done for the sole purpose of meeting women doesn't work for the reasons I stated above. Of course there's issues when people have to get their shit together, but there's a real issues about getting organic opportunities to meet people when you're not a student anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:04 PM
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By it I meant what I was saying above, whatever a given person wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:16 AM
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Think it's a bit more complicated than that. Younger people have opportunities but are sorting themselves in every way, so it's a wild card. But for someone out of college and employed ? A guy that has his shit together financially and personally (and I also mean socially competent, you know, actually hold a conversation) can still not meet anyone because of not getting the opportunity. The workplace is hell no, and hobbies typically are popular for the same sex, so while you sure can find someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:12 AM
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I mean, people are entitled to want whatever they want at the end of the day. Just not to actually get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:49 AM
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Think it's fair to say women are the product and men the consumers there. I also think wanting to rely on a third party that have a financial incentive to keep you unsuccessfull to meet other people is arguably a waste of time and energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:48 AM
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Prisoner dilemna on top of being competitive. I'm not ever considering this something happening, and best you can do is respect yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:41 AM
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That has everything to do with subsconcious behavior and nothing like "sounding" like something. Be it trp, tpp or anything else, you name it, spending too much time in said communities can end up in internalizing bitterness towards the other sex, and once you do, it's a serious problem if you want to date. But then again, people that first end up in these subs usually need an electroshock to get it. Hence what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 03:11 PM
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I think the wording you're looking for is that it's not overshadowed for men like it is for women. There's a cap to where "personality" (more like money and status) can get you. Because your personality won't matter if no one give you the time of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 02:37 PM
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I don't care honestly. You can have whatever values you want, but like with RP, beware to not sink in it too deep. People never liked bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 02:30 PM
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Which goes out of the window if she finds you attractive. So i take "requirements" with a grain of salt. On the flip side, bulking up will make you more attractive (doesn't mean enough), so no point being nihilistic either. Just gotta temper expactations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 05:45 PM
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It would be more accurate you find even flaws endearing overtime. As for what she said it's basically saying if you're a real manTM you'll function the way she wants you to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 04:27 PM
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Average would mean most commonly observed on a sample randomly picked. I’m 5’9 and I’ve been told by women 4 inches shorter than me that they’re not in to short guys despite me being average height and taller than her. I'm your height, and gotta ask, was this online ? Because it's where they whine, when irl you mostly have to be taller than her. And if you're not pushing, most of them can't tell what's your height to save their life. Women see men like Jason Mamoa other buff people who worked ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:34 PM
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Hey, they mentioned the face, both go together, they got your attention for as long as they have what you want currently :))
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:35 PM
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Hey, they mentioned the face, both go together, they got your attention for as long as they have what you want currently :))
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:35 PM
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Be bossed around is a good one lmao. I'll for sure do more than if on my own where I wouldn't try as hard. But you gotta get that being sexually successfull is for most guys the last piece of the puzzle to have everything covered. So they'll be more confident in themselves for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:51 AM
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Most of the time it's more that you think that it'll be too much to unpack if that's a friend rather than to mess with. And from strangers (and even friends sometimes), you get platitudes, but it's rarely malicious ime.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:01 PM
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To that I'll add it's better to do it step by step to more efficiently test it against reality rather to absorb an entire book then test the whole thing when you remember half of it. A classic mistake is that online can give more opportunities, but is in no way a substitute for social skills, it leads nowhere if you can't escalate to irl and take it from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 03:51 PM
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Never said it was, but we are on ppd so... You know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:58 PM
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No shit she doesn’t think the guy asking is one she wants to fuck or date. Who cares? Why does the woman your asking advice from gotta be the woman you’d try the advice on? You'd be surprised (or not) how often the mistake is made, but those who do often have no clue. Men who are inexperienced and solely think with their dick will think this. Men who are experienced and about their life actually have more requirements from women. Male mentality ≠ SIMP-mentality I'd say it's more fair to say it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:55 PM
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To be fair to both sexes, that goes both ways, and we just don't like to have to answer that, because it has its set of issues you might be on the receiving end because you were the one to dive in. Women who hear a man asking know they are talking about a man that doesn't need advice in their example, and don't want to be the one to say that it's about being hot and well... If he's asking, odds are he isn't. Men who hear a woman asking know that while being compassionate and blahblahblah is impo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:40 PM
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When I say to plug the ears, it's because too many people are told things work a given say then try to fit the behavior into what they are told. What they gotta do is observe first, then they can use the words to put the actions in perspective (and any mismatch associated), not the other way around. You get a lot more of what isn't told than what is. But you've got to have a solid base to get it. And sometimes it's a nice experiment to put on headphones, go to grab a drink and look at people aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:09 PM
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I'm going to give you the best practical advice I wish people would have given me years ago, and it even works for both men and women. Go outside, then plug your ears and open your eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:32 AM
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It's true if you are a man in position of gatekeeping. Apex fallacy much. Aka you have something women want more than you do, and you preferably don't give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 02:41 PM
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Should your standards be set internally based on what you want and how you see yourself or should they be based on the results you are getting and how others may see you? Standards are a product of your desires (internal) confronted to the reality (external). But who decides the guy is ugly? Women as a collective. For people framing the “ugly” guy as delusional People in general don't like to hear other complains. Be it men (get good) or women (lower your standards).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 08:51 PM
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If you can behave/carry yourself in such a way that implies you got something more than what others can perceive on the surface, natural intrigue will take over; especially with high tier women who ain’t used to being ignored/“upstaged”. People can feel the difference with proper confidence and faked one usually, especially in 2022. Proper confidence is built upon success, and it takes a bit of it to start the virtous loop. If it wasn't the case, there wouldn't be as many people struggling with …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 07:14 PM
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I'm not agreeable and I'm very technical when debating. Figured quite a while ago having the last word doesn't make you right, but even my parents avoid that with me. I'm extremely patient and understanding if you're honest, but if arguing in bad faith... Well, most people get more than they bargained for. If I decided I don't like you or something is a red flag, not even purely in relationships, you'll have to move heaven and earth just to get back on my neutral side. Last time that was a girl …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:15 PM
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Honestly that's how guys feel about those who go to the gym, and it's funny that it's for the same reason, but a different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:18 PM
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The way I like to put it the most is that you can be entitled to have whatever standard you want, but you are not entitled to anyone meeting any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:11 PM
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Context required. Pretty much like women who say they are protective of youngers one. Sometimes it's geniune concern, sometimes they're full of shit and it's being jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:41 PM
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I don't think they're hurting anyone in this specific case, more like you can't conceive that people have a different dynamic than anything you would yourself be okay with. You're the one throwing the words abuse and hurting. Then again, I've tried for a while to explain that, and we're still at the same point, so either we actually debate or agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:40 PM
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Well, if you read what I wrote, you'd knew that my point is that giving more than you get is the business of the involved persons as long as it's not illegal and both are consenting knowing the hell they are doing. It could be the other way with gender, it's their business. And I'm separating the way I feel, which I personally would not be okay with if myself in that case, again, from judging them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:25 PM
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You are saying it's taking advantage, which is your own opinion, I say it's not. To then take back that example, are you saying that someone accepting what the other go out of their way to offer taking advantage ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 09:20 PM
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That is your opinion in the end, mine is that they do whatever the hell they want. And this is where I'll agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 07:21 PM
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We are talking about two consenting adults doing whatever arrangement they want not forbidden by the law. Are you trying to say doing that is illegal ? If you’re a good person, you don’t take advantage of someone just because they consent. Since apparently I need to openly spell it out, I'm not fond of that either. I wouldn't do it. But you know what ? If they are cool with it, good for them ! I know fucking better than to judge other's actions on my morals. Which is what you are doing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 07:13 PM
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She have a dealbreaker for relationships but check the fwb boxes. I'm not the type to sleep around left and right, but because a fwb requires less if you're serious about ltrs. Ons are just awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 07:08 PM
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No u That's your energy right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 06:49 PM
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What I'm saying is that when people do consensual stuff, it's their business. No more, no less.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 06:49 PM
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And I think that as long as both people know what they're doing and are consenting to it, it's actually all of their business and none of anyone else. But you know, ppd and pushing your own values on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 06:31 PM
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I see it thus as an inevitability that a sizable % of dating interactions will involve one party directly transferring $ to the other for their time. If you consider that time is money, it has always been. During the time you try picking up someone, how much could have you made working and then spend it for in case of guys, guaranteed sex ? To not be off topic, I'd say it's about more than sex itself, even if it's a component that is both the main thing and impossible to take out of.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 06:25 PM
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Give it up dude, she can't conceive it was consensual and not manipulative. The hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 06:07 PM
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To be fair, I'd do marketing as a man like that solely because it works. If it works it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:14 AM
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If you're thinking otherwise, odds are you already shot yourself in the foot but don't feel the pain as sharp.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 10:28 AM
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Men are competitive by nature, they won't ever help others in the way women do. So while the very top dog are men, I don't think they give a single fuck about these issues. It's companies that go along and spam feminist stuff because it's profitable (something something women spending money) and/or fear of backlash for not seeming like they're supporting minorities or things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:30 AM
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Tbh those for who it works wouldn't spend too much time soaking in the negativity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:18 AM
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Not immediately after I started, but I took some time to take in that even with the best chemistry, we're not going to be farting rainbows all the time, and if we want to make it work, it takes two people down to earth to make it work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:39 AM
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Outright asking is weird to me. Small things in the behavior usually give you enough clues.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:33 AM
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The funny thing is that a few years back I had a similar situation because I obviously didn't knew better in approaching (spoiler, she doesn't think with the brain regarding to men). Long story short, after I ended up asking and obviously being rejected, saw her like a few weeks ago, and while taking cordially news, learned that her personal life hasn't been so great. And when I literally said she could choose to outright not bother, seeing her reaction, before she even told anything, I added sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:56 AM
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To be fair, it's not the kind of thing you find out immediately usually, even if you can absolutely stay for extended periods of time before moving in. Just that it's not as in your face as other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 10:44 PM
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but she lets you have sex with her. How do I put this... my desire is responsive to active enthusiasm. Which mean unless she actually wants it, I won't be interested. Seriously, this way of doing things is not healthy for anyone. Does that name you think she’s easy and see that as a turn off? It's a matter of case per case vibe. There are people I've slept with for who that would have worked, and others absolutely not. If you're afraid of the post nut, tone down the sexual vibes during your disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:30 AM
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Make it good practically time and money wise. Because let's be real, it's always what it is about that. And even without a bias towards men, if both partners are at the same point, the woman's career will always tank because she's the one getting pregnant. So a lot of couples decide to have the father focus on his career while the woman take a step back. As for companies, a woman becoming a mother is always icky news because pregnancy effects are not something you go around and more often than n…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 07:21 AM
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I think it's better to see it as a requirement : you don't do much without it (but let's be honest, if you physically can't be at least a maybe to some women the point is moot), but thinking it'll hold everything together on it's own is incredibly dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:58 AM
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Is there a big difference in how psychotic standards have become for contemporary 20-somethings, compared to 30-somethings, 40-somethings etc? Discuss. Mid twenty myself, I'm a bit of in between two fences, as I used a lot the screens (started when I was 15 though), but I very much remember remember my parents taking me out to play with other kids outside. Hell, I remember having 100MO top a month on my phone. I think those around a decade older would remember that in retrospective things were m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:50 AM
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Well, it's basic supply and demand, and many make it a number game because attaching a strong emotion to your success is going to be very painful if you don't get what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:55 PM
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What's stupid is not doing what fulfill you, especially if you know what it is. It seems like casual sex on demand is the holy grail for a lot of men on this sub. Is it objectively as great a lifestyle as it’s made out to be? Fwb are great, ons are awful. Regardless of labels, basically only humping someone for a night without caring about their desires or if you're sexually compatible doesn't hold a handle to fucking someone into the same shit as you are. Not to mention, intimacy, trust and get…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:43 PM
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Or is it because of common stages in life? That is a big part of it. People laser focus around 35 for these kind of data as the cutoff point for some mix of people being at the peak of attractiveness and the age where it's becoming too late to both for women (not to mention the shift in priority changing). What they fail to get is that they are at very different point in their life. I'm 26 currently, and my cutoff is moving slowly from 19 to 20 because the older I get the more insufferable this …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:38 PM
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I'm curious to know what standards guys have for looks in relationships on here. I cant picture what kind of girls you guys are hitting on/swiping right on. Preface, not using old. I'd have to mostly not be repulsed by her face nor for her to be obese. Looks and also being sporty, unless it's major health issue, it signals low discipline - and yes, I'm pretty fit myself. And something something body type. What would a girl have to look like for you to date her? Please link a photo of what a girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:22 PM
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You are looking for repeated indifference, really fucks up your brain. Being stalked by a crazy one and having her on your ass is awful in its own right though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:12 PM
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Talking there as a guy who would rather not meet than to have do stuff in particular because that breed expectation which breed disappointment which breed resentment and bitterness. I'm in my mid 20's for reference. "just try in your social circle" goes without saying that loneliness among millennials is high and even existing social circles usually have skewed gender ratios and only keep shrinking as you age. How is an average lad who only knows other average lads supposed to meet women? That's…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:07 PM
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I like to compare sex for a woman it to having money for a guy : it's kind of a requirement and only matter when you don't have it. Not to mention, the act of thinking it get you somewhere on it's own is incredibly dangerous (in this case getting fuckzoned or milked for money because that's all you're putting forward).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:53 PM
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Women need to be asked "wanna go to my dorm" instead of "let's fuck" That's basic social common sense though. You need to be able to escalate. AND they all say "I usually never do this". It's a pure lie. 90% of them also lie about their body count. So it's not like men who lie to them are wrong, both are liars in the situation. Watch what they do maybe ? When I see the guys that are successful with women, it's always the guys who tell women exactly what they want to hear, regardless of how far i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:00 AM
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As you can see 10's and 9's actually get hit on less than 8's and 7's. this is due to auto rejection and self selection out by guys who think they aren't good enough for those girls. Actually what I was going to say when I read the title. Imo around 6-7 would be hit on the most because guys like to think they are themselves sligthly above average if their life doesn't tell them strongly otherwise. I'm here to tell you these girls will be totally thrilled to be approached and asked out if you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 09:54 AM
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Why don't people talk more about the fact that a lot of average/below average women have bad personalities? Think it's more a people thing, you'd think the ones struggling would have to compensate with personnality somehow, but it's not the case in practice, they are often more bitter. Hot women get hate on all the time for their personality which is funny to me because most guys' only experience with them is either being ignored by them or rejected by them lol. It's very possible for a hot woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 09:48 AM
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People that don't go outside much (and I've got people I know like that,not just ppd) really underestimate how important the initial vibe you get is, and how much it defines going along. Sure, you will see if the person is grounded over time in reality, but if looking at red flags for what they are it's generally fine ? Congrats in being happily married too !
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:16 PM
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Well, a platonic friendship is vastly different from a fwb despite "only" having the sex in it on top. Obviously you need to be able to get the other to trust you and be comfortable, but for anything that will include sexuality, attractiveness, being forward about intentions and confidence are crucial. And most relationships start after sex (if they don't and the sex doesn't measure up to expectations it falls apart immediately which is arguably worse odds wise), so these are required to enter a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:07 PM
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if you can't get a woman to be your friend, you'll never be able to hold a woman down in a relationship Friend is a term thrown around way too much for me to take it as is. Is it needed to be purely platonic ? What level of platonic closeness is required then ? In my experience it all depends on the interpersonal interaction, which is why people will always put a meaning on the word but never actually agree to what it means. in general, you just have to be comforting and respectable, if you can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:53 PM
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Men: Do you think women need a comparison to know if she’s aroused? Do you need one? Nah ? And nah ? Thank god to be able to somehow feel her being wet and to see lust in the eyes though. /s I ask because I often hear from men say that “a virgin woman won’t be able to tell if sex is bad and that’s one of the reasons they’re ideal.” The whole virgin fetish is weird. But it's falsely correlated, that would be sexual experience that allow for comparison. But someone doesn't need to have experience …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:20 PM
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I just was murdered by laughter. Thanks for that man !
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 07:12 PM
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It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically. People thing, not gender things. And being real one fucking second, if your partner is keeping count of every little things you did or did not, don't you think there's something wrong ? And I didn't say to be a doormat either, if something is going to be a bother long term, better speak about it before the jar is filled. As for who do what exactly, it's up to inclination and efficiency. One can tell me I should wash the di…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 04:11 PM
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If personality was indeed the silver bullet that people say it is, the demand for voice-based profiles would have at least had these apps in the same ballpark as the visual apps such as Tinder, Hinge, Bumble etc The target audience isn't going to be attractive, and you don't just turn off the preference for attractive people. But no shit overall, dating apps make profit off people staying on there in the first place. Let's face facts, looks are the number one criteria for both sexes, by far. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:24 PM
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To be fair, you only truly realise what you had once you lost it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 10:00 AM
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Well, the one that wants it less have more power, it's as sad to say as it's true. Flip that, and so does the script.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:20 PM
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I mean, if reality kick you every single time you try it, whether you like it or not (which would be weird if you did), at some point after a while you end up wondering if that's only about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:33 PM
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As sad it as it may be, if all of your approaching led you nowhere, it's often nothing more than a difference in attractiveness. Whether it's actually the case can be debated, but if all of the reactions are getting fuckzoned, or the guy finding that condescndingly amusing, looking insulted or similar... Yeah. That's what is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:55 AM
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I know I'm very attractive, so that's not really the issue why they act weird. Kind is though. It's not that I'd see a woman as less, it's that I'm so used to them just giving out IoI paired with nearly all of them wanting something that you wonder what's up until you figured the angle. And I'm confident in myself, mind you. The closest to genuine interaction I got out of that was being asked for directions. Once I get the angle, and it doesn't have to be malicious, no issue. But until then, odd…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:42 AM
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I legitimately will know it when I see it, as I believe it's a thing you feel on the spot rather than know. Also, I like to not get stuck in my thoughts and stay open minded to what i actually see.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:58 PM
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I'm caring in general, and I also think it's an healthy way to live when it comes to interaction when mixed with a good dose of not being a freaking doormat. But you don't interact with people the same way when it comes to dating. You don't have be an ass about it, absolutely, but kindness isn't rewarded. Hence why people are more self serving. Relatively that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:12 AM
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That's the equivalent of a dude bragging about having a harem online to me. If you're really secure about it, why would you care to show it off?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:07 AM
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You're not wrong, but it's mostly that nice guy go along with women complaining about bad guys, and parrot them in hope it gets them some pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 04:51 PM
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When it comes to casual sex, that would be true
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:52 PM
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Because women don't care as much as men for youth and beauty when it comes to ltr.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:45 PM
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Strong and independant woman who need no man TM
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:45 PM
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Okay, hot take : don't hit on girls at the gym. Yes, some are here for male attention. But you know what? You didn't come to the gym to hit on girls. Don't shit where you eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 08:23 AM
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The hard pill to swallow about that is that the reality is that people only care about themselves when it comes to that. And it's fucking fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 08:21 AM
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so it sounds like you did not do anything active to get over it. You just paid attention and observed how people behaved. You tried acting less nice and again observed results If I didn't have ppd to articulate it as clearly, it probably would have taken 4 to 5 years with an understanding not as clear. What I'm really thankful about is how well it puts into word a feeling and thus how much time in my life it saved.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 08:16 AM
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Been told that my whole life so... A little bit over a year, I think. Thankfully, I started observing that on my own, and tried things little by little. Nowadays, when the word nice leave the mouth of a woman to describe me, I laugh, saying it's cute, and say with a big smile I'm actually an asshole. It doesn't make you attractive, but it kick the nice label off of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 08:04 AM
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Body neutrality is an alternative to body positivity, the latter of which is criticized for perpetuating a culture of toxic positivity. It's a step up to everything is beautiful, because we know it's fucking not. And if you feel that the current culture in dating and relationships needs improving, could this be a useful tool for individuals in helping to change that culture for the better? Being neutral is what it is. Correlating it to attraction is a huge mistake, because it's negociating it, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 12:07 PM
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I think I need to get myself to a mental health professional. That's actually a pretty good way to weed out your own anger. Gotta find a good one. I'm feeling really at odds with people and society lately - more than usual. I myself hate humans as a species, but when you care to be the change you want to see, well, let's say I learned to differentiate. It's like I need to move to a new city and show up with boundaries so people know off the bat I'm no doormat. Yeah, if they're used to you being …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 09:33 AM
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Toxic masculinity is nowadays a codeword to say to describe a behavior that isn't appreciated, mostly by women, and by definition, typically masculine. Word has been thrown around too much for no reason in practice though, it lost all of its meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:48 AM
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Would you personally take it? Sadly, my libido is tied to my overall drive, and I do not fancy being apathetic. I'm already cynical enough to add that on top. Which as you guessed it means the other option is the only one viable for me, as it's making myself more attractive. How and expectations are their own can of worms and another discussion though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:44 AM
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We are different Thread I think it's kind of like not playing on what you're good work wise if it's not detrimental to your health, physical and mental : stupid. It's great to give people opportunities, don't get me wrong. But getting upset when people choose on their own something that doesn't fit a given narrative is most of the time the issue and shows it never truly was about equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:37 AM
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I think there's things to balance out about the reality of that, and it's mostly angry people with no practical experience that make a fantasy a requirement. If a girl is a virgin in her mid to late 20's there's a reason for it (be it religion, being unattractive or mental stuff like expectations), so unless the specific case she's actually so sexually repressed and you vibe so well, it's not happening. Not to mention it requires a lot of trust, and that takes time to build up. The best case for…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:09 AM
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Say what now? Dad joke, don't read too much into it :') I had to reread that a few times, but I think what you're saying is a self-identified "Blue pill" has to be blind or trolling? Blue pill as a sub was created reactively to the red pill one to troll and offend them (which is to differenciate from blue pill as described in society in general). It became really mainstream these years, which mean people that are here and specifically calling themselves blue pill are often out to troll. But it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 07:42 AM
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Hi, all. I'm mostly a lurker, but I wanted to take another stab at posting. Hi same, I'm dad (not an actual one though) In particular, the whole idea of someone deliberately identifying as a "Blue pill" or trying to defend "Blue pill thinking" seems so weird to me. At this point, you gotta be either blind or trolling. I identify as having my own values, as it's a pain to have people try to hold you responsible for the worst of any group. Which are mostly to be kind if you can afford to be and no…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 07:23 AM
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Man, I can't describe how happy I am that it was the video I thought it would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:31 PM
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I think you're just reading too much into it. The whole point of saying she's not into you and move on is to not waste time. Thinking that hard about it when you said yourself they don't even think themselves about it defeat the purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:28 PM
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Well, cheating is devastating to both men and women on every points, it's awful. I think the best way to put it in words to compare the raw feeling though...just imagine seeing your man courting another woman while putting in an effort he never cared to make with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:08 PM
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Most of the guys I know that are young and have a good social life will get a few hookups a year so why do guys on here say that casual sex isnt possible for the average guy? I'm in that case, and I can tell you I'm slightly above average (enough to have been called cute out of the blue a few times) and I know my niche. Most dudes I talk to get their sex in relationships. do average guys get casual sex or not? Nope. But honestly you'd want repeat partners, fwb style. Ons are awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:15 PM
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I don't know what other folks here think it is, but to me submission is something that's given to you because you deserve it. And case per case, it depends on both individuals and then the interpersonal dynamic. It can be sexually only, it can be on more things. It can also not be sexual. I think trying to have a one size fits all approach on that is stupid at best, and dangerous for the mental health at worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:10 PM
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It's kind of like marketing though : the more above it one think they are, be man or woman by the way, the more likely it is to be effective. Because they don't believe it can be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 11:19 PM
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Okay, fine. But if that's the case, why are women even remotely concerned about abortion rights? They can simply stop having casual sex and be okay with that just like they keep expecting men to be. To argue the need for abortion we need to just assumr and accept that women are going to have lots of sex and pregnancy is going to be a natural risk. Okay, I'm not bluepill at all, but that's downright stupid. Shit still happens, and at the end of the day, kids are a cost before anything else. I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:53 PM
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My man! I know right? When I see a man that's like 33 with one that's ten years younger, he either have no clue what he's getting into or knowing exactly what he's doing. My sentiment echoes. I'm 28 and my cutoff is already @ 25. I also find that women closer to the epiphany phase have a certain maturity and personality level that holds up to a conversation. Unfortunately for that, the tradeoff is usually higher notch count and to some varying degree of whack. Yeah, I'm not dealing with unresolv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:01 PM
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That's pretty much why we vibe honestly, the culture is way more traditional. Which is an interesting thing for debates as to why some things on either side of the spectrum are stupid and that there is probably a practical middle ground. Honestly the discipline it needs is a bit refreshing compared to other western cultures, and I'm also talking for me. I've got a very practical outlook on relationships and what it requires, especially about money, so no whining about proving love or bitching ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:46 PM
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Well, one of the outlier I have currently is one that's 19, but besides being quite a bit apart and vibing well sexually, when we talk about culture and more serious stuff, like how she can do things that would work and still be a good thing professionally and culturally, we still vibe and she's considering it seriously as well as generally being able to be serious. Without that I don't think I could even talk to someone her age. It's still men thinking with their penis if you ask me. They live …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:18 AM
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Let's be real a second, you know exactly why: they don't date seriously, and/or think with their penis. If you consider seriously what it takes to make it work, you realize you just get tired if she has the typical outlook of a girl her age. And while it's still kind of fine for me, even with a 23 yo, for you you'd be at moments of your life that make it so it's not doable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 10:04 AM
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Personally it's the excitement about everything I find cute about younger girls. The part about naive is mostly attractive to predators, and with too much of a difference in age, you find the utter lack in maturity a major turn off. I'm currently 26, and since 23 I stopped being able to get along with 18 yo girls because I started to find them insufferable. Now, outliers aside, I can't stand the 19 and some of the 20 either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:30 AM
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Men like young strippers, ditsy girls, the “girl next door” type, college students, party animals with perky tits dancing on a table at the karaoke bar. That's the one they want to fuck, and still depends on the type. Even just for sex, I know quite a few men in my circle that would not go around a stripper. Why is the trope of the unhappy married man so common? Why did “Married…with Chidren” resonate with so many men? Why do men meet at a bar after work to check out women? Why do men throw away…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 09:22 AM
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I'm a very late millenial, and while I haven't observed what you describe yet, I'm definitely noticing an insidious shift. Honestly it's very interesting, and because i'm so beyond giving a fuck at this point, I'm gonna get some popcorn when shit hits the fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:30 PM
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Honestly the problem is that there are women who'll completely act the opposite of the points you gave, and sometimes will say in the same breath exactly what you said. Kinda ruin the credibility for everyone. its just not good My own piece of advice is that instead of getting a higher moral ground, it's far better to get the point across that people suck most of the time because they dont care.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:20 PM
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Maybe we can address rape being the most common fantasy for women then? Because if it's an issue if that men see porn even while not knowing what is respected or not with no way to distinguish it, maybe it's an issue if women do as well. Real talk besides the whining on this or that though, amateur is a good genre because it's more real and usually doesn't have the problems big industries have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:15 PM
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Honestly, I think you've got to get therapy for it, that thought process isn't healthy for you in the long run. Don't get discouraged if you're taking a while to find a good one too, they're rare. It's good. Don't ignore your urges, but don't let yourself be consumed by them. Best of luck with your endeavor.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:10 PM
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What is a healthy sex life for a dude with options. Bodycounts, hookups. Depends on your personality and sociosexuality? The problem is that when I am horny I can not focus on books, reading, intellectual work. IAlmost like monks in Bali wanting to have female visitors bodily assets covered. Life is complex and benefits from cognitive overlooking. When I am horny and in a library, I am just always looking around for the next cleavage. It is a massive timewaste. Or using dating apps for 30min a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:02 PM
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Then why do so many ppd and RP men claim to be attractive, fit, and “high quality” but have zero luck with women? Same reason why many women on ppd and elsewhere would claim they're in a perfect relationship I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:51 PM
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Honestly it works, provided you fit naturally the niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:49 PM
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so im knowing you are needing to be having SOME physical attraction right but im thinking if person is being at a CERTAIN level of attractiveness of physical attraction THEN its being all about chemistry and personality and how you is mixing with there personality?? Chemistry is going along well personality wise and overall vibing, but that is enabled by finding the other attractive. If you don't feel that, for the same person, you literally won't care as much. Basically define if you give a per…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:59 PM
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Thing a lot of dudes conflate is that it cannot happen if you're a no, which she will know immediately. In most of these cases, you're a maybe, and things have to happen correctly. But yeah, there was the potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:27 AM
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Oh yeah, there'll be liars. But if you worded your question without any loopholes, he'll have to give you platitudes to not outright lie, and if he does, it's easy to see whether something about the wording bothers. Won't always be failsafe, but better put the odds on your side.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:22 PM
1

Since you use an absolute in your sentence, the answer is obviously no because you can find counter examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:19 PM
1

All I'm saying is that a high smv gives you more opportunities. What you make of them is up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:18 PM
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Yeah exactly, they are not willing to put in effort for a relationship. They expect men to do everything. Would only bother if he's some chad and makes 6 figures. God I hate gold diggers. If she's putting up all these requirements she's just not that into you tbh. It's not just one woman, it builds up gradually after each encounter. And you don't need to date every woman on this planet to finally start analyzing and evaluating. Also, not everyone has supportive friends and family or a high-statu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:39 PM
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Having a high smv is what makes people take 5 minutes to get to know your personality instead of 5 seconds, and thus make you have more choice. What you make of it is up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:50 PM
3

How do girls not find guys who ask them out after just meeting them creepy? By the dude being hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:47 PM
2

Why can't they change? It's not like they are losing their femininity or some shit. Like it's a set rule and you just gotta follow it, society has changed. Being gay back in the day would get you in prison, but times have changed right? Moreover, some men like to get pursued and some women like the chase too so your last statement is impractical. Odds are you're not the one being pursued then? There definitely are men that are, but [insert blablabla about Chad]. For regular men, they just don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:44 PM
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The thing is, unless you're extremely good, you have poor chances of differenciating the guy that is dense as a rock from the one that gets it but isn't interested. Of course, if you are as blunt as you say you are, odds are it'll be the latter more often than not. I recommend being blunt in these case about being interested because I know many women that aren't at all, and while it's easy for a guy to keep ignoring the interest, if outright asked, it's much harder to bullshit. So if that works …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:36 PM
3

It's on my to do list actually
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:54 PM
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In addition to things like height, income, etc one of the most common desired traits in a man I hear from women is "intelligence", but what exactly does this mean? Aren't different people intelligent in different subjects? Men that just gets them without them being required to explain shit. Hence the meme about being a mind reader. Also men that know more things than they do. Does she want an IT guy who knows how to code? Does she want a quantum physicist who understands how the universe works? …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:37 PM
15

We are animals in clothes that like to pretend we're beyond our instincts. We can have some discipline but that's about it. All I can say for sure is that the instincts we have now are there because it's what kept us in the genetic pool. We can make of that what we want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:34 PM
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No matter how "improved" I am personally, there's still something missing that's pretty damn important to human emotions and development. And that's a companion. No matter how accomplished I am in my career, how many social clubs I'm a member of, no matter how passionate I am about my hobby, I'm still forced to go out to eat alone, still lying in bed alone with no one to talk to, still feeling "defective" because so many people can find a person to love them, and I simply can't. You know, the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:31 PM
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I never understood why women play those stupid games of "dropping hints" rather than just being straightforward about it. Because their sexuality doesn't like to have to do the heavy lifting and they can often afford to be the ones asked out. Not helped by that some men like the chase. Sure it will suck if he's not interested but it's not like he's going to think she's "creepy" afterwards or be concerned for his safety or some shit. You know creepiness on either side is a code for doing shit you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:12 PM
1

Men seem entitled to sex and relationships. To the extreme, some men lash out violently when they do not get women. To success mostly. Those who care lash out because it's a blow to their ego. To be fair, it's moreof a people thing than gender thing. Some go as far as killing their wives/exes/girlfriends so that no one else can "have" them. Some say they should be given wives. And I think taking the extremes seen from the net isn't the best way to look at things. Sure, there are sickos in the wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:57 PM
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if you try to leverage them in the context of getting a relationship you'd immediately be labeled creepy, sexist, misogynists, a fuckboy, things like that. Yeah, because the dude isn't attractive enough to get away with it mostly. Does that stop men from doing these things though, absolutely not At some point you realize that no amount of bitching will stop the men that don't care from doing it. You just make the ones that do more afraid. "be yourself, its all about personality and compatibility…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:35 PM
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Guys love to give any excuse they can as to why some other dude is getting more success than they have but like there's a simple rule that we all learned in high school and that's just natural selection. That doesn't make it wrong though. And I understand both the dude that want to get better and the one that think it's unfair and check out. Also real confidence is built on a cycle started by initial success. It's not a fair process and it's not a nice process but it's one that has existed since…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:26 PM
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Yup. And it's better to let people find out on their own and digest it, because if the shock is too much, it's how you get bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:22 PM
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It's true that men will rather go for women they know because best that than a random stranger, right? But if they do that in the first place, it's because they haven't got a clue. Trust me that if they did, they wouldn't ask. Same way, if a man ask you for advice and you're interested, it's in your best interest to be blunt you're interested, because the odds he hasn't noticed your signals are huge. Best case it works out, worst case you know he's not interested, and you can move on. Hell, i'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:20 PM
1

And no one is happy at the end. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:24 PM
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It stems from an issue that won't ever be resolved. When a man goes to a woman for dating advice, he naturally assumes he's asking about attracting her in the first place since it's what he struggles on and see other dudes have no problem with. It's obvious to him. What the woman thinks since it's obvious to her dudes have to check an attraction treshold is what he's asking is how to take it when he's met that treshold. You could make the case that the woman subconsciously get he's asking for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:22 PM
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The sad thing about personality is that it doesn't net you any point at first, but sure can make you loose some. And it also means for both sexes that if you internalize bitterness, you've got at least a trip to the therapist, because that shits freaking bleed through people and is felt miles away. I don't know what ugly is because I've seen people saying that for anyone that isn't chad, but about the height, you mostly have to be taller than the girl. And in the end, it's either about improving…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:09 PM
1

It's more accurate to say women immediately know if you're a no or a maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:02 PM
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That's until you see the person in front of you. In practice lots of people have a bar where they go "ew, no". Especially from what they mention, the dude is reasonably attractive (which can mean a lot if op is a woman) and the woman is not. But you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:58 AM
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There are absolutely things that are consistent in what defines attractiveness, but we're entering black pill territory, and I'm not sure if that's going to make for an interesting discussion. Gist of it is that attractiveness is getting your foot in the door. It'll define whether the person in front of you will give you 5 minutes to know your personality or 5 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:55 AM
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Niiiice. And you need to be mysterious as the dark side of the moon Yeah, it has all seeing eyes after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:51 AM
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People have skewed perceptions of what's average in the first place. People do themselves (heh, good one), as long as they're not being asses to me, it doesn't really concern me. And if they're truly happy about it, no need to bring it up, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:48 AM
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So what even is "high status" and why do you have to be "high status" for women to see you as a fellow human being? Well, women do get hot for dudes that have a job that's making money and is of good reputation. But what people get wrong is that it's just a piece of the entire puzzle, it's not enough on it's own to do all the lifting. It also depends on what you're looking for : sex, relationships ? Because they'll help very differently. And again, won't do everything on it's own. Even that isnt…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:47 AM
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People are way too busy trying to survive by themselves, I don't find it surprising. Also i said it's the one wanting it the most, so obviously it'll be if the woman want it more. But we know how this conversation goes, and how it ends up with the conclusion of almost everyone being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:37 AM
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You're free to have whatever standard, just not entitled to have them met. And it depends on the person. Because I can see how ressentment is built from not finding someone if that person exist only in the other's imagination. Or looking for things that aren't consistent, like an easy to bed woman at parties while expecting her to not be promiscuous, or to meet a man that's a doctor/lawyer without being in their environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:35 AM
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The best advice I can give people of any sex is to plug their ears and open their eyes. See what works, then find yourself out why. Then take the time to come to terms with it on your terms. That way you avoid internalizing bitterness, because there's no coming back from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:29 AM
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Depends for what. Men are pickier for relationships because women want it more. Women are pickier for sex because men want it more. Desperation for any reason will be the reason most counter cases to that exist. So in the end, it's about who want something more in any interpersonal dynamic. It just happens to be this way more often than not. For men however, the requirements to be able to get a first date, let alone be considered hot or dateable are significantly harder to meet. You have to be t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:23 AM
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The gist of it is for me that both sexes see the advantages of the other as a freaking buffet they can pick things from, grass being greener on the other side style. Except, in practice it's a package deal, you don't get only what you want. I also absolutely wouldn't want to deal with the shit women deal with, especially the neediness of men and periods. Obviously people will have it better than others, even among the same sex. But can we stop taking the apex of either as an average?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 10:56 AM
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It's more accurate to say the attitude of not giving a fuck is ironically attractive for some reason, and thus it's when you don't care anymore that you've got the best odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:52 PM
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Not blue pill, but I believe happiness is a byproduct of doing what you want to do. The dangerous part about what you wrote is being unhappy, then expecting that getting into a relationship to solve the issue. Don't get me wrong, there'll be cases where it will happen. But that just spells disaster if expectations are not met somehow. Because there are expectations. And it's easy to deviate from the reality. I think it's not bad advice to tell people to have their shit entirely together, but it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:27 PM
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Ask the freaking question directly and leave no room for logic fuckery. Women are better wired to get these clues if the dude is uncomfortable, the problem is often about things that are left unsaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:43 PM
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Both sexes like to look at some pans of the grass and think it's greener on the other side, thinking it's a freakint buffet, where you get to choose. In reality it's just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 05:04 PM
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After not very much scrutiny, what becomes very apparent is that “the real truth” that Red Pill holds is ideals that are very basic common sense things that the average joe is already aware of (even if they don’t do anything about it themselves). If that was true red pill wouldn't have been a thing at all though. Whole thing began with men that made mistakes sharing notes and finding points that were a bit too similar. Red Pillers seem to describe “Blue Pill” people as the majority who believe t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 12:00 PM
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A common consensus you will see on Reddit or this very subreddit is how there is a plethora of men struggling to get sex, dates, and relationships. Never is it a case of men just having options they don't lack. It's a severe lack of options in general. Men bitch about women they find attractive not wanting to date anyone. Women bitch about men they find attractive not wanting to date them. It's not going to be solved. And now that i've gotten this out of the way... But man I have to wonder looki…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:11 PM
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The unfortunate reality is that most women are taken, especially those we are attracted to. That's a people thing, not a man/woman thing though Consequently, men are forced to approach dozens and dozens of girls and be talking to at least 4 or 5 at a time if he wants to have any shot at getting laid or finding an LTR, as 99% of them will flake. Heh, either target them precisely or deal in mass. Don't try too hard though, people smell desperation countries away, and it's repulsive. Women shame me…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:05 PM
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Told fuck all, regarding people it was basically to not be a dick. My parents wanted me to be able to support whatever I wanted to do in my life, so while I may have liked advice from my father, I'm pretty happy with how it went down. Can't tell how successfull he was with women honestly. One of my grandfather had quite the girlfriends in his youth (learned that at his funerals, go figure), and the other is quite rough as a person, but did way more for my grandmother when she got sick than anyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:08 AM
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That's just being a regular dude though? Pretty normal if you ask me. And absolutely, you don't want to become bitter. People smell that instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:23 AM
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Red pill, blue pill, black pill, purple pill, it doesn't matter. You can be as alpha as the red pill recommends, or you can be as handsome as the blackpill gigachads, or you can have the care bear personality the blue pill recommends and it won't matter in a long term relationship. How about I put it this way : having relationship game is an entirely different set of skills than having game to get sex. You need to be able to pick apart how the person work without the other having to spell everyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:21 AM
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I think the ones that are not in for the whining, and thus actually in the group just go on about their hobbies and don't fit into the community ironically, because the only thing that is in common for all of them is being disappointed in women. So either they're still in the anger phase, or over it, and doing something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:11 AM
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When I do maths and it roughly speak of how often, but it's because it talks about how poor the self control is. In practice I almost never do that, because the chances that the information is accurate is almost null. I don't really care about n count number wise, it's all about what it means for the personality and habits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 05:49 PM
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Being nice isn't a factor of success in dating. It's things around that make you successful or unsuccessful. Being "nice", as in an entitled shit, is a big factor in being unsuccessful though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 05:36 PM
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That’s a given, no? Even if she sees his desire to do it as childish jealousy, she can still do it to entertain his desire nonetheless. Lack of enthusiasm is something that get a girl kicked out of my place, and forcing herself is just plain gross to me. And don't get me wrong, I know what a maybe look like, but also what a "I won't ever like that" is too. Schulz didn’t say it out of context either. His policy was for both men and women to say nothing about their sexual history unless it’s direc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 07:05 PM
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I find it massively stupid honestly. And it reeks out of insecurity. Of course, getting the case of not having liked something out of the way, if she's not that into him, gotta have some self respect and leave. We're not negociating attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 05:55 PM
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You shouldn't feel bad that women that don't even live in your own social circle say isn't in sync with what you see. If it works, it works. Make yourself happy, that's plenty enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:48 PM
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Many men are given a hard time for being upset when they learn their SO did things sexually for previous partners but won’t do those same things for them. Playing devil's advocate on a specific point : if someone tried something and didn't like it, that's stupid. If she was enthusiastic and you're now the mr right, have some self respect and leave. I’ve been a firm believer that in most of those cases the women are less attracted to the current partner sexually. Classic thing : the attractivenes…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:39 PM
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You're asking people not to complain knowing well that's why they bitch in the first place. If you're not happy with what you have, there's literally two options : expect less, or make yourself worthy of more. And people want more without doing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:31 PM
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Basically title, but from what i've seen men have to do/prove themselves/act much more often and dedicate themselves way more to dating specifically than women, which basically results in a very big net-loss of time/effort investment. Better yourself instead, women come after you when you're truly happy with your life and don't give a fuck. Sad but how it works. This obviously doesn't apply if you are an attractive lad, but if you are average, you 100% are always going to "pay upfront" to see if…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 06:34 AM
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We'd find other find to discriminate against. I think we know the humans well enough by now to know the whining won't just stop suddenly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 05:54 AM
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Nah, i meant to say it's when it comes to dating : you don't have one? The hell you're doing with your life. You have one? Big deal. And? What matters in the end is to have in demand skills in an in demand field to make your life easier, but a degree is your foot in the door to be listened in the first place. It's absolutely tied to it, bur it's more in the subconscious decision making, kind of like what we discuss here is something that influence the behavior and said decision making, but you d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 06:08 PM
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Well, how hot you are will determine how much time and room you will be given. There's no sure way to go about it though, you've got to be ready to be rejected a hundred times to get a single yes. In short, to stop giving a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:08 PM
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I think it's like with money : it only really matters when you don't have it. But getting an education to get laid is thinking backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:05 PM
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There's of that, but it really can pass as weirdness in my experience, where for men, it's massively specific. Agreed overall though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:05 PM
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Again, you are still playing the paradigm of "woman makes all the choices, woman makes all the rules, woman makes the list of impossible qualities in a man she wants and all I WANT is some coochie, so I will jump through all hoops thrown at me hoping to get said coochie even if I have to wait". If there's an impossible laundry list to fill, I just assume I'm not whatever it is for her. Not to mention, that's a pretty red flag since it's either a way of telling she's not interested or she's waiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:02 PM
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The reason men get butthurt about women making them wait Because it's correct policy to assume she didn't make someone else wait, I think. Else it's where idealisation starts and it's a lesson to be learnt the hard way. As for all the rest, isn't that the afbb rant flipped? I mean, these men are free to want that, but they'll see what reality give them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:06 AM
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The thing is the same women will set a different bar for each man, so talking about consistency is kind of moot. It's stupidly low if she's into you. It's stupidly high if she's not into you. The list of standards she set for guys she's not into is also something she'd wish the dude she's into would do but don't actually require him to do, that's worthy of a mention.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 10:58 AM
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Well, first, women brains are better wired to understand the behavior of people. The biggest example of it I've seen being autistic women passing for quirky whereas for men you're like "yup, it's an autist alright". Room for exceptions, you guys know the drill. As for me, I don't take risks, because cue of interest are just being friendly for another woman, and there's no size fit all. I'm not dumb either, but if she's not at least going a bit out of her way to signal interest, I won't act up on…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 10:49 AM
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I don't care about the lives of my exes really. I'm good with them as a person, can and will talk cordially if needed, but i'm not going to go out of my way to get in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:20 AM
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Heh, I think what matters is that things happen organically. It's not going to be the same time in each case either, but I think purposely withholding something purposely isn't great on both ends. It's all good to me to take the time in order to not do dumb shit, but waiting for the sake of waiting an arbitrary time rather than getting comfortable is dumb. If she's meant to work with you, then there's no rush. If you try to be someone you're not, just know that who you are will eventually catch …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:17 AM
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Well, I'm not concerned, so I'm cool with people doing whatever they want as long as they're not trying to force an opinion down my throat or say what I did not say. To give context, I'm in a seven year committed poly relationship with a male partner and a girlfriend. So most of the time when people talk about women or relationships here I can barely relate. People often don't say *some women/men and so sound like they basically think all women/men think and feel the exact same way. Hopefully ya…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:42 PM
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A lot of men (I'm guilty of this as well), get hung up on a woman's sexual past and her having sex with other guys fast while making him wait. I'm over getting angry about that honestly. Technically I'm not against taking things slow because there are instances where it's good, and if we're made to work with each other, it will. What matters is that things happen organically to feel right, and that's often what the theories of PPD can't convey. If she's making me purposely wait, I'll assume I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:02 PM
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The general idea I give to both is to see red flags, and if needed to not be one themselves. There's only so many people you can date before being the common denominator. And if they're too butthurt, to stop dating. Which often exposes they mostly want to complain and not fix things, now that I think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:39 PM
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Oh, for sure, it's the basics of basics. But you gotta say it helps when talking about something for it to be the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 05:35 AM
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It's these words where everyone know what it means, but the definition is so personal no one agrees on what is actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 05:33 AM
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Hello, lady, let me answer your question that isn't a question, and more a passive agressive remark. More in relation to the classic "I don't like men that are too muscular", it's usually referred to bodybuilders. Contrast with say swimmer build or actors that are using steroids, but not often described as muscular, despite not being achieved naturally. So it's in context as most women not knowing what it takes to build muscle, and thus not speaking of the same thing when using said word.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 05:31 AM
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Women don't know what being muscular mean tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:31 PM
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You answered your own question : go hit the gym and loose a good chunk of it. It may not help much, but even in a regular social setting, it'll be better. And not just for others, you'll feel better about yourself. And if that's not a turn on, it'll at least prevent your own confidence from being a turn off. All i'll say is that once you experience genuine desire, you'll know that it's that. You don't fake that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:25 PM
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Well, it's why it's a big deal in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:12 PM
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I love how workforce is just white collar jobs. Let's see how it goes with blue collar ones. Also, would single mothers be included in the statistics of household?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:11 PM
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The best way to put it is that money only matters when you don't have it. Or in this case, when you want more. But putting it in front as an argument will be a turn off before it's a positive point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:12 PM
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When you've got way too many options, it's like a woman that's got way too many clothes to put on but can't choose. Too much choice kill the choice. Obviously, you want to have a choice to do, everyone does, but there's a point where you go "that shit is too much time and energy". The issue is that most persons don't experience that change, and thus it's harder to see where the line where it becomes too much is. I'd say guys that were invisible before are the more likely to experience this? Does…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:01 PM
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Mad respect for that. Wanted to go for that when I was younger, but I realized that the formula for me is "be kind and don't be a dick when you can afford it". Sadly, there are people that can't get the memo before they get burned.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 09:31 AM
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I'm going to talk a bit more generally because the specific example you give is a mess that always end up in "that's your opinion" and I thought about it about 5 years ago as to what was good ethics. Two angles to that : If you feel the need to hide something to your partner, that's cheating. Now you don't tell everything to them, but feeling the need to hide it doesn't come from nowhere, it's because you think (be it right or wrong) it's relevant information for them. Either can bang a thousand…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 09:27 AM
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Well, most people here talk in absolute and if either sex was a monolith and have shocked pikachu faces when it turns out people outside go with the flow, because they don't think too hard about it. Like, okay, you wanna calculate. But what age range are we talking about? 18-26 are broke, 27-35 will fit the dynamic described there because fertility and shit, and 35+ is everything that didn't make a family or come out of a divorce. You've got chill people, the casual scene, the stuck up ones, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 09:07 AM
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If you are a man, hang in there. You have a whole life ahead of you and love will come to you when ur ready. Yep, except you've got to work towards getting there, and this is often conflated with the "you're perfect as you are".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 09:51 AM
1

I mean, it just makes it easier to fall back on something else, but that comes with another set of issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 09:49 AM
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Iirc women manage the problems that comes with it better, and you wouldn't guess it most of the time. For a man, unless he's highly functional, it's really in the face and you see immediately something is up. And let's be real, autism and ahdh (more the former) are extremely poorly perceived due to the connotations. It'll absolutely fuck up the chances of someone's ability to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 09:47 AM
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If it's not worth it, why would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 10:25 AM
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Men naturally assume the worst of other men though. Part of why they aren't united as a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 08:31 PM
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you are lonely because you reject or don't pay attention to women that are on the same scale as you when it comes to looks Generally if i can take the whole argument, flip the genders and it just works, it's more of a people problem than gender problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 08:25 PM
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Women arent hypergamous, men are just hornier. Both aren't mutually exclusive though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 07:03 PM
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Women just hold men to the standards they themselves set. I'm not sure I know a single woman that'd date herself if she was a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 06:57 PM
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Meh. I'm all for doing positive stuff that impact passively your ability to get women, but this isn't it. I don't have any interest in being famous and what comes with it, so it'd be doing that for the sake of getting women. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 06:54 PM
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Nope. I'm not using a third party that have every interest in me not finding what their service is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 06:51 PM
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Because there's nothing as fake as Instagram, even besides what people are actually there on for. And as soon as it's mentioned, all i hear is that she's grinding for more followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 11:52 AM
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Yeah, thing is, i'm not doing hard work for my "health and well being" for women? Like, if it's that where you are, get your life together. And it's a personality case for what they can work on. It won't win many points, but sure can make lose some. As to why, you might want to wonder what's the point of talking about something you cannot improve on?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 11:01 AM
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Well, they struggle a lot more than if they weren't, that's for sure. And because it makes that much of a difference, you get that kind of answer from men. Also, being blunt, calling oneself plus size is just a feelgood way to tell you're fat without feeling bad about it. How they deal with it is up to the individual really.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:13 PM
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I mean, I assumed it was relatively to Europe to a lesser extent, those things defo happen in France (source : living there as well). Didn't heard about background check though, maybe it's a thing for later in life. But all of these are very much person dependent, if you let someone like that in your life, you'll have all of the points. I wouldn't say it's impossible to escape most of them, but you'll often will have to deal with at least one or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 07:12 PM
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I love PPD, because it's so out of this reality. I'm talking, interacting, having fun with fellow humans. Yes, the red pill explains a few things about dynamics, but like, it's like that, incorporate that in your life if it's something new and get over it? It's just common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:16 PM
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Yet another reason to be happier in Europe lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:08 PM
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To be fair, i can see how some people would rather ignore that altogether if they can't experience it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 08:30 AM
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There's a middle ground between wanting the spark that's essentially a firework and being in a ltr so dull you wanna bit the bullet. You wanna have someone that's different enough to learn new things from, but similar enough you get along. Key is to know yourself. If it doesn't fit you, it doesn't, and that's fine. But choices have consequences, and the lack of choice itself is a choice. Think that's what people are getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 08:23 AM
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I'm not yet at that point, so i can't answer properly, but it's intersting this ratio is observed for people of less than 40, and the ratio of college educated of 2:1 is over 30, do we have statistics for lile 27? Also, isn't this an USA thing mostly?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:24 PM
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I mean yeah? The men [they want] don't want a relationship with them. Also, it's a very easy way to sweep under the rag all the personality issues they have when the dude want a ltr but she isn't suited for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 05:10 PM
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I mean, i just said what was on top off my head reading you. Hopefully it gives you some insight to the situations you're seeing though
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 12:21 PM
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Alright, let's be practical, because while stuff like that doesn't come from nowhere, there's always a middle ground that is the reality. I(f) have seen so many videos from channels like Hamza, first man, CRP going on and on about how men's smv peaks later in life. Well, most dudes don't get a lot of attention in their 20s. If you're talking about trp gurus, they have all the reasons to say that, especially financially. Kinda like old is a trash matchmaker, because it needs you to be there and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 12:08 PM
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Basic knowledge of the pills can be distilled into any relationship because it's common sense. The pills themselves, or rather how the loudest talking about it are enough removed from reality to not be able to be applied at all, if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:48 PM
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They exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:46 PM
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To me, sex is fun. And it feels good. The reason it does can be debated and beaten to death, fact still remains it does. And that's motivate my behavior. Having sex with someone I like and know where it's going to be fun, is something I'll always be down for. If any isn't there, meh. Overall though? I like sex most the same way I like oxygen and money : the less I think about it, the better I feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:58 PM
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I need everyone need a correct balance between the stick and the carrot. Else you just don't want to play the game. Also, the issue with the mom is that when you're working hard and showing it's possible, it's harder for others to justify not doing a given something. Saw it in an administration a few times. Don't work too hard, you might make the others look bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:50 PM
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How social media makes you feel bad about yourself, and ruins your dating confidence.... Good thing I'm not on them then. Even on this sub I've got to take breaks at time, it reminds me how it is so disconnected from the actual world despite having interesting talks (also when I feel a given subject has been given milked to death in a way too short time). Long story short? Go outside and breath some fresh air if you don't feel too good about yourself. Maybe walk for an hour or two. Works wonder …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:06 AM
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I'd rather be seen as attractive while also being actually financially stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:33 AM
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That either she stopped having options or consider having had enough fun then want to settle down (not necessarily mean settling for someone). Thing is, the men that are economically attractive by then aren't the ones that fucked during their twenties, so they're barely starting to have fun. You can imagine how it goes from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:27 AM
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Cheating...is it ever ok? If you're doing something that can impact your couple and doesn't tell your S.O, there's a reason they're not aware. And that's never okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:21 AM
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It's not about men preferring honesty, it's about women fearing retaliation. Justified or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:19 AM
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Choosing a man is like shopping for a home. Going to be fun. Might want to get the right trophy for said home, right ? When I was younger, looking for apartments, I would look for the coolest apartment that I could afford that was convenient to job. friends, fun. The structure of the building, school district, etc. didn't matter because I knew it was a temporary stop and I would be moving again as soon as my lease was up. A great view, a nice gym, hopefully impressing my friends and access to ni…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:11 PM
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Because they'd rather be alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:54 PM
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I scored a 5. I have to say I would have changed the wording of all the questions to get a middle ground because way too often neither were fitting me. And sometimes both do. I'm confident in myself, but a lot of those questions are about straight up arrogance to me, and it just disgusts me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:26 AM
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Men are a lot hornier than women, and this is the root cause of all of the issues in dating and gender relations Women are as horny as men, just for a way smaller number, and need more appropriate context (which often the more attractive ones won't care about giving because options). The only explanation I have heard is “women have more to risk from having sex” yeah, no. Anything is an excuse by the token of fearing a violent reaction tbh. If it's obviously bullshit, it's because she doesn't wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:18 AM
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There’s nothing particularly groundbreaking about the Dual Mating Strategy. Everyone does it. Everyone that can afford to do it will do it, it's a given. But the AF/BB narrative feels soooo narrow and doesn’t at all reflect the experiences I see around me. I’d love to hear your experiences! It's just when you feel that guy is good for a fling, and another you see as boyfriend material. It doesn't account for the other categories you may have, and all the others you just don't notice exist (that …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:06 AM
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Every person should aim for the best that they can get and go for it and there's nothing wrong with that. Everyone is entitled to have their own standards. No one is entitled to having someone fit said standards for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:26 AM
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How do I put it? I really dont see a point in developing a personality when the greatest yield of labor comes from developing your looks for both genders. Personality won't give you any points, but it'll definitely make you loose a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:29 AM
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No, what I want is for women to shut up and stop saying men only go after young women because they are predators. Won't happen. You know perfectly well why. There are pros and cons to every type of relationship, but do what makes you happy. Don't let what people think influence you. If you're going for someone younger though, make no mistake on that you'll be at different stages of life, want different things, and that she won't like you for the same reasons she'd do a guy her age. If you're not…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:27 AM
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Men's thirst ensure that in average the man will cave in first more. And the one that care less have the most power. Not even talking about sex because it's a non issue when you can in practice get it anytime. Also they're more adept at networking, so keeping in touch with friends. It seems to me that women that can't find a high value man to settle down with are just fine living alone with their cats and the occasional girls night out. Better alone than in poorly accompanied. And gotta say, any…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:24 AM
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Do you have any evidence that exposure to TRP is counterproductive? What I said is more about staying for too long in the community. Because once you got what you want out of it, you just end up doing your own thing, and not needing to go back to the community that has a lot of persons still in the anger phase. We all know about the anger phase but the point is one is meant to eventually grow out of it. If only it was like that for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 07:12 AM
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Same, rather than psychopaths, I'd say it attracts people that have an understanding of social cues that's way under the norm, as well as the ability to navigate them. I'll add that the more they stay in the community, the harder it is for them. Those who just didn't open their eyes see that, get a bit angry, and get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:16 AM
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Yeah, and the reality of it is that while I can put that once as dirty talk maybe, more than that is just going to be weird. People feel things, checking every five seconds is how you ensure to end it, because you'll be making it weird. Seriously, it's armchair specialists trying to tell people how to do their jobs while having no field experience all over again. Again, I never had an issue with that, because I just feel hesitation when I see it and it turns me off. But go tell that to people th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 09:28 PM
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Just don't be socially inept and both read cues as well as watching reactions and non verbal language when checking up for consent. Perfectly doable to make it sexy. But I guess my stance is a bit different since I'm innately disgusted by the absence of enthusiasm. Can't fuck like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 08:45 PM
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10 minutes but how much time is spent looking for a video? Hmmmm??? I mean, there's keywords to search, so unless you're hellah picky and undecisive shouldn't be taking long. Porn is daily for tons of men. Probably close to 90% if men were honest. Doesn't tell anything about the duration on a day though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 12:40 PM
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If people cannot understand logistics, they probably haven't dated much tbf
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:34 AM
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These are pretty theoritical Ngl. To me there's about 3 reaction from women to you : -Fuck yes (Chad and so) -Maybe (under the right circumstances) -Fuck no And I see "leagues" being relative to how people react to each other, separating SMV and RMV : if I can't get the attention of the girl for outside ltr sex, she's above me SMV wise. If the same girl would consider me for ltr, we'd be in the same RMV wise. Reverse goes as well : if I don't consider her RMV wise then there I'm above her league…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:22 AM
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I'm not even associating myself with trp because I don't like how the loudest minority is like, but Sorry guys, but 'man up'. There are a lot of things thats wrong about TRP, a lot of good things as well. You got the core message wrong, because getting your shit together and owning it is part of the message. Sorry, but not everyone can be 'strong', its your job to not be the weak guy who gets walked over, to the best of your ability. Same thing. Some stuff from trp is basic self improvement (whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:13 AM
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I feel like he'd be a joke. Kinda like she is. I just don't take her seriously. Might as well have a laugh out of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:24 PM
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There's truth to it in the inner working of dynamics, but when you actually go outside it's an entirely different dynamic and the world is different. Doesn't help that this sub is a lot of 30+ women and younger men (although there's quite a bit of 35+ men as well). The population here typically doesn't interact irl. Still, I like to come here every now and then. Have to take a break to go back to the real world though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 01:53 PM
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What I truly love about this sub is that the jokes are writing themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 01:27 PM
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In that case it's rather a way to plug up the depression. What I was saying is that guys wouldn't obsess over it nearly as much if it was readily available. Or at least, it wouldn't be talked as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:09 AM
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More like because it's the only thing they can't get consistently
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:06 AM
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I mean, they're more attracted to the idea of ambition than the reality of it. You know, cliché of the successful guy that have eyes only for her. Including work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 07:07 AM
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Men and Women. Do you too notice that dating advice on internet makes men think women hate them for nothing? Hate is a strong word. Most of the time, when I read dating advice on the internet (which I don't do anymore unless it's something that I consider to be actually useful), it makes me feel like women hate me. Don't forget the representation of the population isn't the same on the internet as it is irl. Women are not as easily sexually aroused as men. So if I enter a room full of women and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:57 AM
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Yeah, otherwise she'd probably have gone on depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:49 AM
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Good luck working in a field that's 100% about competence as a manager when you don't know jack shit People just laugh at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 06:19 PM
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What is your opinion on women having jobs and income? It's great for their independence. The most unfortunate event to come out of that is now it takes two incomes to properly raise a kid. Does this play into your attraction to such women or a lack of attraction? Do you prefer women who follow a more strict traditional path (woman stays at home and tends the kids and house) or do you like traditionalism with a mix of modernity? I like them to do whatever is smart economically wise in a given con…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 11:16 AM
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You're on PPD, they can't even begin to understand the concept of kinks here tbh. If they can't understand the very concept of SSC, imo it says a lot about their sex life, since good luck for them mentally to judge sexual tastes with regular standards. Men that shame that just get "frigid" women that'll end up cheating/leaving them wondering what they did wrong, and women that shame that will loose their ltr to a "slut" because the man will be frustrated. So essentially the same thing. But it sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 09:29 AM
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Oh, I'm here early. Well then. one of the biggest lies i see in this sub everyday is the believe looks matter. they dont really matter for women as they do men so women should not be ostracized for their looks. Looks do matter? It's a prerequisite that get your foot in the door, and you won't get anywhere without that. They do matter differently for men and women though.They should not, but yet they are, good luck figuring that shit out then. men should be able to see through the illusion and fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 09:30 PM
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Neither? One gotta have an interesting psyche for being a virgin at 27-29 while sticking whatever in her ass, and the other got poor impulse control. I'd just stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 09:17 PM
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Either he talks too much in which case he isn't good to begin with, or you've got nothing. Assuming guilty until innocent will be felt in a way or another and fuck up the relationship by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 01:43 PM
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Meh, men will though. Also, don't be their therapist. If you want to legitimately be a decent guy on that one, point them towards a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 09:07 AM
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Basically? Thirst. Make no mistake, online dating is great when you don't have to consider it seriously and can be off of it anytime. As to why they don't like it, opposite problem of men : sorting this shit out. The ones they want likely have a ton of options and therefore can afford not to give a fuck (which ironically make them more attractive).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 09:05 AM
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I don't think the act itself means that, but disparity in looks happens enough to guess that a more classical way wouldn't work on him. What is assumed is that if the woman is attractive enough, IoIs are enough, and while it's not really wrong, it's also a practical excuse to not approach, and to make up a lot of reasons as to why he didn't respond to signals. It's mixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:01 PM
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Men and women find both women more pleasing on the eyes than men, and men are thirstier. Don't think I need to elaborate more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 08:54 PM
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Came here because it's the place that was the less an echo chamber, and stayed for the same reason. At first it was interesting, but it's the same dead horse that's constantly beaten, so meh. Like, marriage and having kids isn't a trend anymore, people gotta have money to do that shit. And by the time they have it, they make discussions about youth petty irrelevant since they aren't anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 08:52 PM
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Because ugly women exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 07:21 PM
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I'm not out there calculating about "well" I can do like that. You're more likely to encounter people like that if you do though. I don't see how I'd be in a ltr with a woman in it for the money, we'd see quickly enough that I'd give the middle finger to that. But overall, what you're describing is entitled people's behavior. I don't think I deserve anything from anyone for any arbitrary reason. And imo people who do just make themselves miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:54 PM
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A common piece of dating advice is that you have to be comfortable on your own before you can get into a rewarding relationship. I get the intent behind this, as in don't go plugging issues with bad relationships, but if it was always true no one would have relationships. Pretty much agree with the second paragraph. Even small compromises seem like cruel and unusual forms of torture when you’ve tasted the sweet freedom of life on your own. No relationship is truly doable without any compromise i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:45 PM
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Short answer : get good at choosing. Long answer : it's tricky to get the right amount of enthusiasm, "passiveness" and being selective, and being too much of one have obviously bad consequences. If the dudes she's interested in aren't, it all depends on the situation : is she sleeping with him? Is he even aware of her? Women are typically attracted to dudes that have options, it'd be best to assume to consider he does if she wants a ltr. For the same reason, don't be lazy when working taking ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:48 PM
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What I meant is my message wasn't talking about the morality of the act.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 08:22 PM
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As I said somewhere in the thread, I'm not commenting on the morality of the act.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:30 PM
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The idea that you need to be the only person who's inside someone else's head indefinitley isn't really the norm or how most people work, and its not exactly something you can screen for easily. She wouldn't even date these dudes, because this happen only when they have serious issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:38 PM
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And a load of issues. Desperation isn't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:36 PM
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What I was trying to ask in my post was if it was easy to find men that only feel sexual attraction when in love Yeaaaah, I think I have bad news for you. Because the only ones that work that way will because of various issues
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:34 PM
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There's this theory in FDS that goes like this: if a man really likes you, he'll try to impress you, so he'll take you out on a nice date. I think that goes for people in general, but with a big caveat : in the beginning, there's no reason to like someone that much. So what's the reality? Would you make an effort to impress if you met a girl you actually thought you really want to be with? I have a self imposed rule to not do more effort than I'd be consistently able to do (this doesn't excuse l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:30 PM
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The wording is just women telling themselves that. Do you like kind, caring, and nurturing men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:20 PM
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People are only disappointed when expectations are not met. So what is found doesn't matter, but it happens when the image one had of the other is broken. I'm not talking about the morality of a given case either, just that it works this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:37 PM
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People aren't going to be upfront about it for obvious reasons, hence why I worded that the way I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:48 PM
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If you're asking for advice, chances are being yourself doesn't work lmao. Just gotta think for a bit about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:32 PM
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Q4All: How did the covid lockdowns / restrictions impact your love life and mental health? Ups and down. I was surprised at how much socializing I actually did, even if it didn't seemed much to me. I'm curious as to how others feel the restrictions have impacted them romantically and sexually, and in terms of any self-improvement efforts you've been undertaking. Took more time to tease and fuck those I knew (logistics are a pain, doesn't happen that often), but as for meeting new people, it's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:31 PM
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The reality is that people are going to want different things from different people. That's natural. It's also natural to get pissed when its found out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:22 PM
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It's like trying to make economics assumptions using models. You have to make so many assumptions to even theorize that by the time you get to something usable it's already not possible to apply. If you were to find the perfect formula solving attraction, you'd find there's so many variables out of your control it's not practically usable, or reliable consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 10:32 AM
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These are gurus. And there's no leader because the ones for who that work don't want to bathe in that all day. Either it works for you and you do your own shit, either it doesn't and you become bitter. But the only reason you'd present yourself as a figure is to make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 08:44 AM
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If she's 33 and looking, it's probably too late, the ones that are legit were married by 25. If she's a lawyer, that means it happened when she was busy studying, and I mean that's correct for independence, but if she wanted the perfect husband, I'm afraid she had to take a bet she didn't years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:51 PM
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That could be very well be a part of it, yeah. There's something different in the air itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 07:27 PM
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Two at once is harder, yeah, but from experience, the more women are in the group the more likely you'll get your opportunity busted. I feel it would be that they're more sensitive to the negative opinions and even likely to have them in the first place, but that's my own interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 07:19 PM
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Also, if that's any indication, I don't go for groups that are more than 3 women when we're two, the bias is way too strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 07:00 PM
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I hear casually explained in the distance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:58 PM
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I don't want to be pessimist, but a man that's a 33 yo family oriented man, Christian but somehow not married yet is bound to both not be hot and issues, and that's before even getting into what he's doing with his life. I honestly cannot compute how all of her requirements would fit in the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:55 PM
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I'll just say that : bitterness is unattractive and a pretty big red flag in a partner, whether you're a man or a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:28 AM
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I don't mean that it never happen, but rather than going out of one's way to the point it's frequent it is often correlated with wanting something. They believe it ridiculous to go out of their way for a guy like that unless they were dating him. But they will go out of her way for all of their female friends Seems legit, nothing to say there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:32 PM
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The chance there's no attraction whatsoever between both persons with an actual and not being just acquaintances is pretty slim if you ask me. Not just a matter of not being attracted to everyone, but also being friends while also not being attracted nor attracting the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:29 PM
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I feel like we have to define "friend", because it can mean a thousand things. Same as "just friends". It's logical that when there isn't more there's a reason for that, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:27 PM
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Platonic friendship is possible when there's no attraction whatsoever on either side. Needless to say, that's quite rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 02:06 PM
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Women can't appreciate it like men do and that shows in the way they react, so I'm much more likely to do that for guy friends. And no one is to blame for that but the simps getting them used to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 01:18 PM
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I dunno if it works, but doing an action hoping it leads to something creates expectations that create disappointment that creates bitterness. Just for that alone, I wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 10:31 AM
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Long term relationships can ONLY form if: you have a good sexual attraction towards her your worldview's match your lifestyles match you have some common interests your families accept you your financial situation is stable you're on the same page about having kids you're on a stimiliar level of education You spelled marriage wrong. Some of them (kids and family mostly) are relevant only in a marriage. Trust me, there's a lot more that needs to go into your standards. "All I want is for her not …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 10:29 AM
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Waiting a bit is fine imo, but too much weed many men, and there is a good chance there'll be issues with those remaining since they start building expectations. I don't know how widespread it actually is, but I heard about the 3 dates/1 month time used as a cutoff point pretty often.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 09:34 PM
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This is the truth. Giving them rides, taking them out, running errands, delivering food and groceries, out right sending them money, etc etc. Someone going out of their way to do that is simping. Quite different from an actual friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 09:00 PM
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Peer pressure, shaming. Once you get enough bad reactions when bringing a topic up, you get the memo and stop bringing the topic up. Or talking about it at all for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:58 PM
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Why do guys need sex to feel validated? Because men and women aren't in the same way? This doesn't have any meaning to you because you'll always find a load of dudes if it's just about fucking. My question is why do guys absolutely have to sleep with the girl? Pretty much what I said above. Why can't they feel validated just by knowing she is/was attracted? Because that's what is the most validating, regardless of your perception of the act. I would be fine if we never hooked up but I know he re…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 09:57 PM
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People know what is a red flag. They mostly ignore it for whatever reason (often being hot). People can pretend, but over time, the habits get back in place. Depending on the combinaison of red flags, just get out. If you're approaching dating while being fearful and assuming the other want to use you everytime, it'll affect your success. Not to say to be a trusting dumbass, but there's a balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 08:40 AM
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I don't think it's unusual, but mostly someone that isn't over someone else/can't stop making comparisons with a previous partner. You get the bingo if there's several and they apparently were all assholes. Because that's how you'll be remembered. I'm like, why are you even dating at all then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 08:35 AM
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Or, like, get actually better at vetting, regardless of your sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 08:30 AM
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These women saying they've got a hot and loyal SO while having all that hatred internalized give me the same feel as a bunch of guys on the internet oozing with bitterness congratulating themselves on getting harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 02:53 PM
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As for do, follow rules 1 and 2. The only irony about my comment is that how unironically accurate it is when you think about it. As for where, dating apps, friends of friends (parties or not), university for those who don't work yet, activities that they're not doing to meet women. I don't feel like it's organic elsewhere currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 02:25 PM
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You can be honest I’m not sensitive. Alright. You mentioned twice you're "a little overweight" in your own words, so whether you notice it or not, it's relevant to you. The advice to get more in shape is easy, and depending on how overweight you actually are, you'll see the changes from easily to very easily. And I hate to break it to you, but I think it has more to do with the men you go with than anything else, they probably never considered a relationship with you in the first place. Try to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 10:04 AM
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I'm never closed to a relationship, but I operate on the basis that once I see a dealbreaker I'm not serious with a give women. The problem about being hypothetical like that is that a series of red flag that are somewhat fine on their own can turn dealbreaker, and are dependent on the context. Same about the qualities. I care more about their combination say about their than what they should be in an imaginary partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 09:48 AM
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It signals me to not waste anymore time. Anyone asking that, especially irl, should be left immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 10:13 PM
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PPD and their numbers lmao. What is the highest body count of a woman you'd date casually vs consider for an ltr assuming you want an ltr. I don't measure body count, it's one thing but hard to assess, especially when looking at the behavior is not only much more efficient and easier. It can be not feeling chemistry, it can be seeing red flags, it's very context dependent. State desired or target age for the person you have in mind. I'd much rather work with what is in front of me honestly. Doin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 10:08 PM
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People are so inhibited that they need the alcohol to be themselves these days. My question though mainly is that if you choose to take out alcohol as well as other stuff like that out of your life, particularly during your Uni/College years, do you think it can have an effect on your dating prospects? Yes. These days, meeting that isn't through dating apps or friends of friends is rough. Parties sometimes help to mitigate that as alcohol help to hookup, but one, it last until you start working,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 09:31 PM
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I just want to say to all of the people bitching about this and that that if men and women were the same, we wouldn't have the time to be bitching on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 09:13 PM
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When you want to go back as far in history as that, you can't really ignore that women's body have a literal incubator that doesn't work in the favor of their personal autonomy, and coming down to hands, you wouldn't really take the risk to find out the consequence if a man stronger than you resort to violence. why wouldn't women be able to be powerful and get protection? Physical strength is what I'm talking about. Seducing, manipulating and poisoning is something they've always been innately b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 09:11 PM
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During these times, women did what they needed to survive. The utility of feminity as you put it is to get protection from one man or more as they are more powerful physically. The conditions sure have changed, as society support them in not needing one. It's not natural though - even if it's how they behave when having that freedom, as what enable this behavior to be possible is the anthitesis of natural if you want to go back that early.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 08:43 PM
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Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal. Society also encourage these delusions from women but not men, even if they all deep down know it's feel-good crap that no one believe. A common trope I see here on PPD is the idea that there are plenty of overweight and average-looking women who seem to completely lack self-awareness of their SMV. Wouldn't use PPD as a sample for reality though. These women then proclaim that "men are shit" when th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 08:20 PM
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Your sentence have one too many "if". If the mutable traits were deemed (regardless of personal opinion) enough to overcome those that aren't, we wouldn't even be talking about that. So... If you're lacking in the former, isn't the natural inclination to offset with the latter? Because for a myriad of reasons blending together, it seems it's not worth it for a lot of men. Also, respect=/=desire
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 01:50 AM
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Thank god people (men or women) don't have to well with each other, that'd be embarrassing. And I don't think men think too hard - or at all - about this, it's just the libido doing its thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 06:57 PM
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As much as women would date a trp man I guess, so no. In practice it's more a game of spotting them rather than deciding whether to date or not, because considering the reputation fds and trp have (not what they say they are, what they're known for), I can only call someone calling themselves openly that a dumbass.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 06:25 PM
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I don't mention RP itself for the same reason I have a feminist friend that stopped to call herself that for the stigma it gave her. If you're not socially deficient you realize very early you get far better reactions when talking about the knowledge itself as it feels like common sense/doesn't carry the stigma. But like, avoiding as well the big generalizations along with not trying to fit that in every conversation. If you're doing it well, men approve, and women just see you as a man that "ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 11:09 PM
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That would be confirmation bias, yet another thing. I mean, I see the point, as the words you actually say are like less than 20% of your success in communication. But imo, if one is not ready to hear an answer they don't like, they shouldn't be asking in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 11:00 PM
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I prefer honesty, but be it me or others, being blunt 100% of the time isn't something that we can afford. People can say they want to hear something honestly, but if all they do when hearing it is getting angry... Yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 10:17 PM
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The term has lost all social meaning as it's a blanket insult nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 10:14 PM
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You're in public, it's all of those you don't notice. They're not head turning, for either reason. They blend with everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 10:10 PM
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It's more a deep reaction than anything else. If she's doing anything less than her A game, it'll feel the same as if the man was wining and dining another but just getting a coffee date for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 04:43 PM
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The thirst is a feature of the overall drive though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 03:48 PM
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That's a lot of words to whine about the fact that those who have options are having fun with it. I'd answer point by point, but my post would be long as fuck - therefore no one would read it, and this summarize well my thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:26 PM
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Men are not just judged with respect to each other, they are also judged against simply not having a man at all. For not having a woman, you mean? I said respectively, as in relatively. If a woman is better off with NO man, she will chose this. Pretty much what we're seeing, yes. Still seems to be a shortage of economically attractive men compared to the demand, since it's talked about at all. It is easy to get a HVM to knock a girl up and she can just raise him alone. Yet we don't see that happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:36 PM
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Women are the problem .... Not enough to take the bait? Right. There is a lot of blame being thrown around at women, there is a long list of things they are supposedly doing that is wrong, unfair hypocritical, etc. The real problem, however, lies with young men. Young men are flabby, weak, and underachieving in their careers and earning potential. Women have no interest in tying their lives to such men, they would rather go it alone than support a weak and pathetic man. Men are judged relatively…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:40 PM
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Okay, so how about I put both men and women in that one same title called "adults" and say the following? If you want a an answer, it's your responsibility to ask the fucking question. Clearly. If you're asked a question, it's your responsibility to answer it. Truthfully. People not asking questions or not being clear about what they're asking shouldn't complain when they get a vague answer imo. And people that are directly lying aren't people you want to associate with anyways. Also it's way ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 05:04 PM
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No hookups just mean if she doesn't like you she can say she warned you, and if she does she can say she doesn't usually do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:24 PM
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Oh, a fun one. But for those of you who did actually work to improve your social skills, what exact actions did you take? Fuck me if it wasn't a process that lasted years. Around 6 or 7 I'd say? I didn't gave a fuck back then about how I was perceived, so there was a looong process of going out of my way and comfort zone to talk to new people, and believe me, at first it was cringy and demotivating. Kept going though, and started to pay attention. Habits are hard to come off. Funnily enough, I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 09:48 AM
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You can be nice, just don't be a fucking doormat, and don't forget to put a speck of an asshat every now and then. Assuming it's true, all that the number of women you slept with tell me is that you're good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 09:02 AM
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The ones overestimating their attractiveness are also the ones that have self worth issue imo. Also, women consider "themselves" after routine/makeup, not when waking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 05:10 AM
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Nope for me. If you're plastic, go back to being plastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 07:27 AM
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It gets better once you put your shit together, and your head out of your ass. Also, life doesn't end at 30, the choices you'll make, the gains you get at one point will be paid at another. And nobody escape that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 07:25 AM
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I mean, seeing people here is so much of another world is fascinating, but I sure wouldn't show all of that to someone I'm with that isn't interested in it from the beginning, honestly. My sarcasm missed the mark though : women all saying they're here and perfectly happy in relationships sounds as legit to me as all the dudes here saying they've got harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:27 AM
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Politics aside, I'd rather take a small "risk" while getting vaccinated than continuously taking an unknown one while not getting it. Reading reports to make an informed decision for sure helps though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:24 AM
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Thank you for saving me the time of writing that and showing there's at least that feel the difference, jeez.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:19 AM
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I'm pretty sure it's basic reddit sex ratio though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:18 AM
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All about having expectations that can't be met then. That's when entitlement comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:16 AM
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I mean, bitterness becomes a self reinforcing loop, and it shows. Men or women, those who have internalized too much of what probably won't end in happy relationships. Not that many people care for relationships here, but you get my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:14 AM
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Kids are a financial and emotional cost, and while I agree it's not natural, I have to respect people that can recognize they should not become parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:11 AM
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If you're happy in a relationship (like every woman there apparently), what are you doing here? Might give you some insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:10 AM
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I call bullshit. Happy people don't go online and immerse themselves in toxic cess pools. Something isn't all happy in Happyville. I mean, I do log in here to remind myself to get back the feeling of wanting to log off and appreciate the outside world. If I spent my whole free time there I think that'd be concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:09 AM
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Just have good genetics bro
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:54 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:52 AM
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I dunno what she's taking, but I want some.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 04:51 AM
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I dunno, old put people that have no business talking to each other together, and if that can work it can also make things very awkward. At least you can feel things irl and rely on charisma and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:34 AM
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Fds is a population that's already struggling but refuse to do any kind of effort. If they were doing something I'd consider them that. In terms of bitterness tho? Completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:32 AM
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And you've obviously read about enough to confuse the red pill and the black pill. Congratulations, try a post that's I dunno... ooze less laziness, next time?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:31 AM
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Hey, I don't kinkshame people that like to be cucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:28 AM
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Sadly, men want a solution to their problems, not a rub in the back (see the nail video). You're valuable if you know an in demand skill that you're good at.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:42 AM
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Well, I feel like they're living in a different reality. When I go out I see normal people. It's why as much as I hate it, when people try to gaslight about the problems of each other, I remember many don't go outside (their echo chamber or at all) and I just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:27 AM
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I think they fit mostly when you take them relatively to each other instead of in the absolute.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:24 AM
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The whole idea with the wall is : after a certain point the tables turn in men’s favour because after a certain age women struggle to get what they want. It’s supposed to be a number, an age or a point in a woman’s life where things stop working out. It's not wrong but incomplete imo : the balance also happen because it's a time where some men start to become economically attractive, and this dynamic only happen with them (if they're interested for whatever reason), and if she wants to get marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:23 AM
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Ima steal the patriarchy. Good luck on your engagement dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:13 AM
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It's more rp vs fds as the extremes, and the sidelines that are more centric that also like to watch the world burn. Being real tho, it's the only place where you can do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:11 AM
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Yeah, girl, except that beggars can't be choosers. So... Go back to take care of your baby daddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:09 AM
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Basic marketing : if there's a demand, there'll be a supply. There's plenty of circles that are honest though (brutally or not). The ones on YouTube are having the online dating problem : happy people don't need to come back.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:06 AM
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I'm fine banning abortions if you make paternity tests mandatory. I'll pay for the shit I do, sure. Just let me make sure it's mine. So, realistically? Opt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 08:01 AM
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That's the whole fantasy though, not getting the guy they spent years fucking and be bitter about it. Where it disconnects is that they'd want the women to care about being rejected by them then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:58 AM
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That is actually what they do, whining about taking responsibility. Beside money that's already a thing (and let's not go into why paternity test are illegal), baby rabies doesn't make a man become a good husband/father. Give me a freaking break about dying, it's raw bad faith at this point. Pain, sure. The real consequences nowadays is on the attractiveness of the body. If the child has a defect, it can be detected before it's too late to abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:22 AM
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No wonder so many women have dysphoria. When you come crashing down from the high of the drug called photoshop, it's bound to be rough. Which is why not anyone is doing it, despite it growing back hair, giving a better bone structure, and aligning back teeth. Oh, wait...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:16 AM
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Well, physical and emotional abuse. I'll just say the law condemn one more easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:13 AM
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A man didn't conceive on his own. A woman was there to help him with that. If women want none of the responsibility then they should either stay abstinent or have [operation name], which minimises the chances they will get pregnant. If they do neither, then they can drop whining about taking responsibility for something THEY participated in willingly, something THEY also helped create and something they KNEW might result in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:10 AM
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The ones that are picked are mostly the ones that like to please but don't have a mountain of mental issues. Speaking of mental, it's what happen to other women (often if more attractive, since more likely to go to the gym) when she bangs for free a guy the other less attractive woman would make him wait for. Screw the whole balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:07 AM
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Like. Do your shit, don't mess with shit that isn't yours, and don't less other mess with your shit. It isn't hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:01 AM
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Ah, we have furries. Shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:59 AM
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Guess I'm too much of a normie to think it's a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:58 PM
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Irl or online?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:48 PM
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This one is self aware though. Can't say that of everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:44 PM
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Sure sis
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:43 PM
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That's what make us human! And it's also why it's weird when someone doesn't have glaring flaws
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:42 PM
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She's the most consistent moderator. Honestly I wouldn't even be proud of being a consistent user.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:41 PM
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The friendzone is just one of the two friends that isn't sexually attracted to the other and the other pretending they're fine with it/being afraid of loosing what they're already having. It just happens that because of average libido it's mostly men. Other way around (wanting a relationship) would be fuckzoned.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:38 PM
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People don't owe anything to each other. I'll give them courtesy until they prove themselves not worthy of it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:32 PM
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Obviously in a full fledged contract, going by the consequences of the law. Shame the human mind wouldn't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:30 PM
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I'm logging in there to remind myself what not to become. Thankfully having to take breaks seems to be a good indicator I'm not doing so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:24 PM
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Oh, I wasn't so far off. The week is going to be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:23 PM
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Men and women good, men and women bad. Yes, this is science.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:22 PM
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1 - I'm always right. 2 - If I'm wrong, refer to 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:21 PM
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Well, thank you for telling me it's purge week
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:20 PM
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I'm talking about the community as a whole, not what was originally behind the creation of the sub
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 05:32 AM
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You've got to read between the lines, dude, that's what I'm talking about. If you don't take advice from women because it's bad since you can't apply it, you don't take advice from way hotter dudes because it can't be applied either. See what works for you, maybe charismatic energetic guy do it, maybe aloof do it. There's something that fit you. Just don't be a fucking carpet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:33 PM
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Just have one thing to tell you : One didn't worked for me, the other did. That's all I care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:14 PM
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All men have access to sex whether its through a relationship or paying for an escort. Then you can ask yourself why they're not having sex. So, why do men on here act like the rise of sexless men is a problem that needs to be addressed? I could address global consequences on society, but I don't think the men there care much for things that happen over a bunch of generations. I think society should encourage more men to pay for sex if they're not in a relationship. Well, then ask women not to i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:11 PM
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That us degrading. Don't degrade yourself. If everyone did it, this would not even be a thing. Does an average woman understand that? More likely thar they don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:03 PM
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Going through it a bit, looks like it's what fds could have been if the focus was on doing instead of bitching. By nature they'll be more open to surgery, but I think it's fine. Sure, they're women who need a strategy (or want to go up more than the average woman can perceive), but I really like the "okay, what can I do practically" feel it has. Like, you could see one of the woman loosing weight showing on her face. That's the kind of effort I can appreciate. The sub in itself? As long as they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 07:01 PM
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The blue pill (community) whole existence revolves around shitting on the red pill. The red pill is supposed to unplug you from the system that the blue pill keep you in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 05:37 PM
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If you're not giving value to what should be, yes it's going to be. Otherwise it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 05:36 PM
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They don't always know if they're going to fuck a man on the first seconds of meeting, but they definitely know when they're never going to fuck him. If you catch the first glance before composure you're golden.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 05:35 PM
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Women on this forum are as good as representing the average than men : badly. I don't think they (average women, not here) despise most men, just that they mostly see them as npc. And no one love unconditionally either, if that's what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 05:33 PM
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Because women are jealous, duh. You wouldn't want a woman you love to screw everyone around either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 06:22 AM
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I look for signals, send some myself. I'm fine "initiating" (this term is a joke), but I assume that if a woman is interested, she's going to make it easier for me. So feigning disinterest result in me moving on 100% of the time, regardless of other signs of interest. I know I missed opportunities because of it, but rewarding this kind of behavior is a big fat no for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 04:56 PM
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I don't exactly get anxious at the idea that some people had a life before me, rather that I'm not big on the idea that she doesn't manifest the same enthusiasm as she did for someone else (different from trying some stuff out and not liking it). I'd rather have someone that has around the same experience than I do. Very low body count over a given age while she's single is spelling personality problems, and the one with a high body count isn't someone I'd have a relationship with either for obv…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 04:40 PM
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Because standards for thee, not for me. Hypocrites. You don't need to search any deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 04:27 PM
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Urgh, there's no foolproof formula to be sure, otherwise you wouldn't be asking at all. It's true that it's often best to assume she's had some fun, even if it wasn't as extreme as some here like to imagine. That being said.. My golden rule is to never discuss that with women, rather you find that through clues. Is she the type to seek validation? How busy her life is? How ordered her home is, does she have unhealthy habits? If so, which? What are her hobbies and people in her different social c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 07:49 PM
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Why are women encouraged more by society/parents than men to work on their looks? Because the impact on how well they are treated is clear as day, the incentives are there. A lot of things that make a man's looks attractive can't be worked on as well. A woman doesn't need to look particularly good to be sexually attractive. For men, the differences in how you are treated are far greater. Imbalance in sex drives. Being sexually attractive as a woman is also as valuable to them than being valued f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 02:02 PM
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Will sex bots increase or decrease the likelihood that women are raped? Nah. It seems a bit weird to me that people think sex bots (whatever that actually is) will change anything considering how a man owning a sextoy is owned by both men and women. If anything, it has more to do with the aging population. I personally want to remain single and childfree forever, so I don't care about dating men, but sex bots may help to keep men's sexual appetite satiated so they do not bother me. Men are gonna…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 10:32 AM
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Looks, money, status. You can compensate one with the other two, but shouldn't bother if you're lacking in two areas. As for being fat, no it's not attractive. The only build that see success that isn't the classical ripped is the bear look, and even then it requires mass. So lift.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 08:17 AM
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Is it wrong for a woman to want to wait before having sex/stay a virgin now? Be consistent in your decisions is the most important. If you want to have sex quickly for whatever reason, that's fine. If you want to wait a while for whatever reason it's fine. It's when you do both that the latter will consider it's not fine. However on another post here most of the comments where complaining about women who wanted to wait to have sex, saying it’s maliciously manipulative, wrong, a test, a sign she’…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 08:19 PM
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Low empathy, tells "dark" jokes Imo having dark humor is fine, but it's not being able to tell whether you can do that kind of joke or not that's telling about both empathy and overall social skills. doesn't have at least one or two women in their lives they consider a friend, I get the feeling of that, but being real, most guys have for friends women they're not attracted to, but it's not like they're really close. isn't as educated as I am or in a lower social class (themselves not their paren…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 08:11 PM
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I mean, men tend to have set of shoes for a role (to walk in comfortably, for big walks, casual fancy, clearly fancy, etc.), instead of having those match with X kind of outfits. Isn't helped that what good formal clothing for men doesn't have much variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 08:07 PM
2

But men aren’t hopping all over women irl like they are online. I feel like a lot of guys have shifted their efforts there. Since covid I don't feel like there's an appropriate place to do that anymore if not through friends of friends honestly. Workplace is a fuck no, street isn't somewhere efficient (unless you're reaaaally attractive and then it's easier to be on old), and most activities died down, as meeting new person "randomly" got fucked up by covid.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:00 PM
2

If you're somewhat fit in America you can climb mountains (heh) in terms of relative attractiveness tbh. An ugly face still is ugly, but it doesn't matter as much to men as it does for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 04:52 PM
5

The same thing that we argue about over and over again. Well, of course it's the same thing that's argued over and over, you can only bitch on so many topics. This place sometimes has interesting takes that make staying here worth it, but most of the time I just go outside and see the world isn't just the hellhole it's made up to be. "People are attracted to attractive people and it sucks to be unattractive" that's what everyone says in their long blocks of texts. What I really find funny is to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 04:49 PM
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Attractiveness and sexual attractiveness is two different things. For men those concepts are the same, for women they are separate. Imo they're plenty aware of that as soon as they realize one dude get a shitton and another none for a reason. Not the same as in physically, but there's the dichotomy of finding a slut sexually attractive but not attractive (for a relationship) so it's not hard to imagine. This is why men don't instantly get it. It does take a while to realize men and women work di…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 04:39 PM
1

I'm cool with them doing their shit. What I don't like is how for some there's either people that agree on everything or people that oppress them. Don't put words in my mouth or call my lack of attraction oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 10:39 AM
1

Rp are more for the short term, handling a relationship is another horse entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 02:12 PM
9

Men can prepare as much before a date too on suits, cologne, hair gel etc. So many women don't realize that. Like, it won't take two hours, but if I go out with a woman, I like to be "casual/well dressed", so shower, hair gel, skincare, some more detailed shaving, a bit of perfume, etc... It gets long real fast. And it's not just something I do in case for sex, it makes me feel good about myself. I don't expect the woman to prepare like I do either, unless we planned to go somewhere fancy (but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:41 AM
1

I think she just grew up told that and her experience in her youth enabled this bullshit. And thing is, I think that's bullshit. This one reeks of saying that then demanding equality elsewhere like it's a fucking buffet, so my answer would be to laugh it up and tell her to get bent. But there are men who grew in a more conservative environment who like this, and have the money to wine and dine women. And it's completely fine! But that man would also have conservative expectation, and he'll kick …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:29 AM
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I just don't interact with her unless I have to. Is there really any other answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:08 AM
3

Attractive men (as in very top) gatekeep whatever they want, women gatekeep the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 02:35 PM
1

Look for something as in looking more actively for it and be more vocal about it. Isn't a 180 either, just logistics for those who want a kid before age x.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 11:33 AM
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Well, women start searching actively for something serious around 27-28, so I'd say around 25 is the cutoff since the dynamic change massively afterwards (in terms of being genuine). It's not impossible to find someone that's great after that, just much, much harder. If you want kids on top, it's a shitshow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 08:34 AM
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I mean, it's obvious? The diploma can't just go away. And it's more of an economic context actually, the man is pretty much only "required" nowadays if she wants a family by going through pregnancy to maintain the quality of the lifestyle all the while.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 06:10 PM
3

Let me guess, the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 06:07 PM
1

There isn't a solved formula for it. And obviously there's a middle ground between literal landwhales and bag of bones that some models are. And it's mostly where women can pray to have won the genetic lottery (beside facial attractiveness) : it's the body shape. Fat is unattractive as soon as the shape of the curves are hidden. And let's be real, adjusting to that when you're pear shape and hourglass shape is an entire different story. You can afford to have some fat on you, but only if it's al…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 06:05 PM
1

You don't need a doctorate to know whether it's worth it to take it seriously. Attractive men do whatever they want, women get fwbs and sometimes ltrs, average men stop using it, either seriously or at all, and below average men don't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 05:55 PM
3

Does anyone / has anyone here ever found themselves attracted to someone who most others would likely view as borderline unattractive, but you for some reason still really want to f*k them? There's some people that just have an attractive vibe and traits that are conventionally attractive personality wise, so not to say it's easy for them, but relatively to their attractiveness, they're doing pretty well. Usually very chill, engaging, positive persons with not a bit of bitterness. Does anyone kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 01:30 PM
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Yeah, they want plausible deniability, but it's also about teasing each other. Even if she's not outright saying dirty stuff, if you care about making her drenched before taking her to bed (which you should), it's a back and forth of mutual teasing. So... Yes, asking explicitly will most likely kill the desire if you haven't been heating her up enough. Enough vary on the women, and protip : always good to go waaay past the "enough" bar. Show how much you want and is ready to please the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 07:39 AM
3

Squeazing thighs in these situations if the mood is there is a dead giveaway in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 07:32 AM
3

Finally some common sense. These dudes have trouble interacting socially (ie reading the moon, you don't just ask a woman what she wants bluntly) and haven't had much positive experiences so the awkwardness snowballed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 07:21 AM
2

Same reason it's not efficient to sleep since it'll disgust the man if he got to work much harder where others didn't as much or at all : it boils down to desire, and doesn't obey to logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 07:11 AM
0

That's escalating 101 though. And it's way better to jump each other when we teased for a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 07:08 AM
2

Just as a note, when you say you're going to get a house as a couple, vs a married couple, it's seen differently by the person selling it to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:30 PM
1

You can only hear that so many times before it gets old and very easy to just say married instead to at least have tranquility tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:28 PM
1

A ring on a partner’s finger that tells the world they’re not on the market is a tangible symbol they’re not looking to cheat There are unmarried men that put one on to get laid, and some women that take it as a challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:26 PM
2

And that got to die, because if that's a favor instead of being something both people enjoy, there's already something dysfunctional before going into anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:19 PM
1

It's this kind of thinking that let her get away with what she did. Probably would get hits in if she did, damned be the white knights coming
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:04 PM
1

Going by the NSFW tag, I'll assume this is bedroom related. It’s a common theme that submissive men in sex choose to be like that because they are used to being the boss irl and want a break or whatever. Yeah, but that's true for people overall, having a lot of responsibilities make you want to stop thinking for a while. That being said, and that's a personal take, I think that the direction your sexual tendencies are going to go are defined by the time you're a teenager and done when adult. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:01 PM
2

Women's choices do not make sense to men because most men do not understand women's sexuality. Huh, could have fooled me, am I not on PDD? I'm sure men do here. I see a lot of men here chastising women for ignoring "good guys" and participating in modern-day "harems" just so they can sleep with top 20% of men. Oh boy, that's gonna be fun. I mean yeah, when they found that out, it's a bit of a shock, for sure. Women really aren't attracted to most men. You think? Sex with a man you are not arouse…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:54 PM
1

I think this needs more parameters. Depending on say geography, for the same profile, you'll get different results. And I'm not just talking first world vs third world. More how the place shape the perception of a given characteristic. Also not being in the USA, I can't translate well the salary, but oh well. Beside being in a similar socioeconomic class (as in you get along more easily), I think we can say most guys want a woman who's in shape and not a complete nutjob. And I'm afraid getting m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:27 PM
1

Depends on how the other is on a case per case basis, some flaws I would in theory be okay might be a dealbreaker because it doesn't work all in all, and some I wouldn't be might work. I'd say smoking? Wouldn't live with someone who do though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:12 PM
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This honestly sounds gross. A person has their own experiences, qualities and flaws, and this kind of thinking pretty much reduce them to a sims character you'd design. I would much rather work with what is in front of me instead of holding out for someone "perfect" that probably doesn't even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 05:41 AM
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"Pornsickness" is exclusively a concern of undesirable women I think it's going to be mostly the issue of the addicted dude, but yeah if in the way there's enough of them. First I'll say that I'd define someone as pornsick if there is a negative impact on him (power libido in a ltr, can't get it up, waste money on twich thots and instathots). I wouldn't include occasional watchers, because then you're talking about nearly everyone, even those without issues. Plenty of guys seek novelty, and even…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 09:06 AM
4

Yeah, I honestly think for all the shit show the Heterosexual dating scene is, that we're not the worst off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 08:27 AM
1

Maybe? Between what she wants to convey, what she thinks she convey, what she actually conveys, what I think she conveyed, and many other things... There's plenty of chances to fuck up. It just comes down to whether you assume no interest until proven otherwise or the reverse, and you'd better be pretty hot for the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 08:26 AM
2

Good luck enjoying the hot sex when you're worried about paying the bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 07:10 PM
2

And? My point still is the same
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:56 PM
11

To be fair, dating seriously between men must be an absolute nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:49 PM
5

The only men that are whining are those not getting any (not to say that those not getting any are all whining though). So, this would be... A lot of men. At least enough to have an impact that can be seen. As for your comments... But on the other hand, why is that a bad thing and why do we shame them for it? Do we shame gay people for only being attracted to their own sex? No, we rightly shouldn't. Paternal certainty, to sum it up. If someone want to see a change and have an issue with it, enfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:43 PM
3

For someone to be playing the game, it has to be perceived as fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 06:29 PM
3

I just wish I'd knew what it was, an IoI or not. Fact is, even being good on me, that happen once every few years at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 09:25 AM
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If all women didn't fuck for free, all men would commit. It's a prisoner dilemma. And we know what happen to those. Also what is thirst and what's self respect is subjective, so yeah. It's another thing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 07:24 AM
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I'm afraid that what make someone a good flirt is to be able to identify them in context and respond accordingly. If it was a maths formula it would have been solved a while ago. Her trying to close the distance physically or to touch you has always been good in my experience though. But again, context.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 05:10 PM
3

Yeah, so 10 to 20% of all men that are drowning in said validation and have all the incentives to not give a fuck, I'm afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 09:05 AM
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Tell them to pay for sex and they’ll give you a plethora of reasons as to why that isn’t the same as having sex with someone who desires you. It's true though. And I think the meaning of incel itself is kind of lost these days, and is more used as an insult than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 08:55 AM
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First thing first, let's make marriages work. And it's dual mating, pretty much like women who'd want some people for sex and others for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 08:24 PM
0

Letting the science aside for a second, doesn't that mean they want freedom from potential consequences to the choice, regardless of what is actually done, than having the freedom of choice (which they technically have)?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 10:56 AM
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While I understand that's not love for women and just how it works, it's also how it works for men to consider that to be beyond anything else a woman can offer (the man being loved for who he is). So yeah, I can see why they wouldn't be big at best on his partner not feeling that if he's doing more for her than anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 10:58 PM
3

What do make compliment and attention annoying for women is respectively being not genuine (aka getting into their pants) and unwanted, in copious amount. Now imagine if they were getting none of it. And I don't just mean sexual, but also to shut the fuck up and sort their own shit (and it's definitely happening for some, pretty privilege is a thing). No one to ever talk to, and assumed to be dangerous at worst or annoying at best. Yeah, I think they'd want some in that drought. Alas, no desire …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 09:30 PM
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When you've been naturally attractive you've got the kind of confidence that's created through success and actually is attractive, so all you have to do is not be a slob. Also sure, but they get away with shit that wouldn't ever be tolerated with most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 08:23 AM
3

Yeah, and being attractive is the only way to make this feeling go away it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 08:15 AM
2

That just come down to the difference between the sexes, because it's just easier for the women to get it. Overall, the other sex find hypocritical when they sleep without much care but have another set of standards for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 07:51 PM
1

Yeah, until she wants something serious with someone more stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:08 PM
1

In practice it depends what you're playing honestly. Whether the game take time by design or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:01 PM
1

There's gaming and gaming honestly. Are we talking the two-three hours in the evening or entire weekends on the screen?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 07:57 AM
1

Being able to cook stuff is a pretty neat thing to know to do nowadays honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 07:54 AM
2

I mean, if they had bad experiences, wouldn't be a stretch to not want that happening. However, putting down the feminity of other women in presence of men deemed attractive is a sure way of removing the competition. Can also be a way to elevate themselves in the SFM.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 07:48 AM
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I think everyone know by now it goes HVM>HVW>LVW>LVM. Sure looks are important, but beside of taking care of your skin, what can you do about it? If the answer is nothing, that's an useless point to debate (however true it is), because you won't be getting any further once you're done discuting this. Be it man or woman, for someone to play a game, they want it possible. It doesn't have to be easy, there are people that like to tryhard. But when said game is rigged/unfair from the start, people w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 07:16 AM
8

I'm fine with them actually being that, but when that's the whole identity, that's where it's starting to get dicey.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 08:47 AM
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Men and women value the same things differently though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:19 PM
2

I don't ask myself all that. If I enjoy someone's companionship, I want to spend time with them. The more I commit to something restricting my freedom, the more I'll be checking the boxes to see if I feel like going further.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:14 PM
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If they're happy, they're winning in my book. And vice versa. That's what the question should be, instead of theorizing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:09 PM
3

God forbid we use the word grooming correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 03:22 PM
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Kinda depends on the context. I don't see many sober women straight tell you you're hot, so... Yeah. Beside the context, I can't think of many ways to tell whether it's friendly or flirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 10:25 AM
1

The idea is making an uglier woman than what you'd expect for marriage provided she has something that the others don't that make you happier. That saying never was about taking a partner that's less attractive for it's own sake. Also, halo effect. Attractiveness has no bearing on being pleasant. It can on bitterness in the long run though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 08:51 AM
11

First I would preface this with: I am new to the whole red pill, purple pill, whatever color pill. I am a married female with brothers and a son and I am just looking for insight. Run! No seriously, welcome. Do take note the average person on PPD (or reddit for that matter) is not the average person. Questions: What are your views on your mothers and if applicable your daughters? Are your opinions consistent with all the women? I’ve seen many posts of all women being leeches and harpies …. The b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:44 PM
3

I see posts on FDS that visibly make me cringe just as I assume many RPers feel about the weird field reports That's pretty much what a person any kind of common sense feel honestly. You kinda pick what works for you. But identifying yourself as part of the community come with such a stigma you're way better off explaining things as your values.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:41 PM
13

Conceptually you're right, but in practice the female dating strategy is about convincing yourself how happy you're to be alone when you're absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:23 PM
20

Their biggest mistake is assuming they can attract anyone by default and just need to sort harder when needing a strategy as a woman put you in the bottom of the barrel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:19 PM
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Honestly that's why if she doesn't want to make it obvious and easy for me, I assume no interest and move on. Night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:03 PM
1

Go home obviously. Even if one is reasonable relatively to his looks, it's still a cost benefit analysis in the end, and under that threshold... Not sure why one would bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 11:41 AM
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Fuck her mind before you start touching her body. Usually that works pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 09:01 AM
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The irony is that the point I started getting good is when I was like "you know, just lie down and let me do my thing" then just went from the reaction I've seen. Better have some knowledge in anatomy that doesn't come from porn tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:59 AM
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At some point as a guy you gotta shut up and experiment things to see yourself. When people (men or women for that matters) masturbate they go for what they know feel good, but that's also a bias to go towards what is known to work. For someone who doesn't directly feels, have some anatomy knowledge and see the reaction, it's another story.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:54 AM
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You really can't see how fucked up it is that a woman has to "do things" to be treated more than an object? I dunno, both sexes are trying to escape a different misery : either being seen as a woman, or having to prove yourself to be seen as anything. Both seems pretty awful if you ask me, but the grass is always greener on the other side. And yes, it's equally fucked up that a man has to "do things" to be treated more than an ATM. Yup. PPD makes me hate humanity at this point lol. PPD isn't the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:32 AM
2

I feel like that'd involve making a woman exceptionally good at what they usually do : manipulation, getting hoards of powerful and rich men to be retarded because of her, you name it. So it's like the average high-school boy that get harems for no reason, and it has the same problem as every romance novel ever aimed at women : it sacrifices the world and character of several of them for the sake of self insert, that we know isn't realistic. The media actually explores what it's like to have a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:19 AM
0

Usually this behavior is to get you once the relationship end by putting down the bf. Make it clear there'll never be a thing with you, and most should be stopping to talk to you. Beware of the reaction though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 08:11 AM
3

At least there's truth in uninstalling shit like instagram. Curious to know where he meets people, because the setting is one of the most crucial factor outside what is talked on this sub since the pandemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 12:20 AM
1

The dick itself isn't. The man attached to it, it depends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 02:56 PM
0

I think that's too often the case, sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 08:26 AM
2

I'll just account for the pill existing in the dynamic, but I'm certainly not dealing with people as neurotic as over here, so.... I'll see what is actually in front of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:37 AM
6

Yeah, see, there's also this liiiiittle thing called intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:32 AM
1

It's a balance. While you 200% have to account for the dynamic, I think he meant that people don't obsess as much as over here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:31 AM
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Pretty much. And when even the average person doesn't want to bother trying, the overall quality take a big hit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 07:24 AM
1

Ask those who do
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 03:19 PM
1

Because being overweight/obese is a net negative with a percentage of men that's high enough to be relevant I'd say
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:58 PM
5

Apparently there's too much sorting to do already, so better not increase the options. Seems pretty weird to me considering loosing weight also net you positives not only in the dating dynamic, but also the everyday life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:38 PM
1

Still waiting on how the reverse would be sexual assault, not rape. That aside, it's sadly very true these days : at first I wondered if that was a problem with me, but the amount of women that needs alcohol in their veins to do anything made me think the problem run deeper. Also I'm pretty sure they don't realize how much more men crave physical intimacy than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 12:11 PM
1

In the mainstream definition, it's the same as a simp and possibly including white knight traits. Put down others, explains she isn't like the other girls, and doesn't understand being "nice" (or whatever word) doesn't entitle to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:36 AM
2

I think we have several religions that can tell us how well that went.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 10:08 AM
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I mean, to go say there's discrimination (regardless of what it actually is, I'm not familiar with this case), you need a scapegoat. And what's easier to dunk on that cis straight white male of MC/UMC ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 10:07 AM
2

People are already not managing one partner, more than that doesn't work out for many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 09:00 AM
0

Feels like common sense tbh. If she's so fine alone, why doesn't she stays that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 07:25 PM
9

So everyone want to have their cake and eat it if given the opportunity?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 06:57 PM
5

If a woman openly call herself feminist without any context, she's told you enough. And any women who needs a strategy is probably not going to be a good pick anyway. I'd rather be alone tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 06:54 PM
1

To be fair it's probably because 30 is a round number, in the same way as saying 6ft. And in practice women following that typical line would start seeking something more serious around 27-28, and feel the urgency around 31-32. It's not that they suddenly become unattractive, more like the biological clock start ticking a bit sooner than men's. All the while most dudes are starting to get comfortable with their life and have a lower libido than a decade earlier, so it makes a pretty big shift in…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:48 PM
1

-What do we hear again and again and again is the most attractive quality a man can have? CONFIDENCE! So which one is more confident: the guy who assumes the girl is flirting with him because, hey, he's high quality and a catch and is confident in himself, or the guy who just assumes it wasn't really flirting because he's not all that great so of course she wouldn't be flirting with him? To be fair, I assume no interest until proven otherwise because we're in 2021 and I'm not wrecking my own hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:36 PM
0

To be fair, only men can appreciate the effort put in getting that body. Also women are already afraid to seem too friendly, imagine going out of your way to say you appreciate the aesthetic of your body while not being interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:11 PM
1

I said it in another tread, but for those beliefs to hold, there has to be incentives. Currently when I think about kids, I think about the cost for them to have a somewhat smooth life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:09 PM
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Men age too. And people with poor habits pretty badly. That's mostly if she's looking to have kids though, otherwise she can have fun. I'll give you that she won't be winning the lottery without buying a ticket, and not having a ltr before your 30s is a pretty big red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:03 PM
7

If you want me to work my ass off, give me incentives instead of telling me what to do. Because I won't work as hard if I don't need to. On a global scale that also means the workforce is less competitive, and sure can have an impact on the economy at the international level.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:03 PM
0

I don't see war happening. If it does though, the whole world goes to shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:56 AM
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He's hot/here at the right place/moment. Just chemicals in the brain dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:16 AM
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Don't worry, it'll fix itself. Childfree people will die, and the ones who want a family will procreate. We'll probably see a few crashes due to the increase of older people, but that's the government problem, not the individual. Unless we go for another great war, but with nukes being a thing I don't see it happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:14 AM
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I don't go as ham as you, but I think it's mostly about getting healthy habits. I feel like the least a guy can do nowadays is to have a balanced diet (and not just eating things considered healthy) that goes with sports (which include but is not limited to lifting) tailored for his body type, as well putting on moisturizer and sunscreen. But hey, if most don't, more power to those who do in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:11 AM
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To be fair, it's a dating app, and she only needs one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:49 AM
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Just be ltr material, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:47 AM
3

Isn't technically trp somewhat a consequence of feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:47 AM
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Yeah, so to actually follow the principle as intended, and make an informed decision, regardless of what it is. Best of luck, dude!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:46 AM
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Call me back when life itself is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:44 AM
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I thought I wouldn't see that mentioned, yet that's one of the key things about the costs : a healthy lifestyle in the long run. All of that is going to expensive no matter what. But I guess people are more focused on the short term benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:42 AM
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Cardi B is raw plastic to me. She can spend any amount of money she wants, but she won't beat a woman who do sit-ups + squats. Actually sweating is where it's at.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:37 AM
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Most of you men have ZERO idea shout how much costs goes into looking fit , healthy and well put together. Just like how most of you lament about the small about of men who are naturally blessed with a great physique and /or who come from wealth getting the cream of the crop women . Actually it's women who have no clue what's natural and what's not when it comes to men's physique, which is also why when you actually get it done, the praises mostly come from other men. That, and women tend to spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:23 AM
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Makeup is only good when it goes unnoticed, or slightly enhance. As for why women do, while it is for (even if) unconscious sexual reasons, there is non sexual perks as to how they're treated, even completely outside of the context. So yeah, I get where it's coming from. Overall, being treated better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:37 AM
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First things first, men are humans doing and women humans being. And as much as we'd like it, we won't be ever able to escape that. Second, in men's social matrix, skill and leadership define the hierarchy. A woman introduced there can mess with that just because she's a woman, not because of the above, so it's not well perceived. You also very much see that in professional and competitive fields. Third, I've come to hate how friend can mean everything and nothing. Platonic friendship is possibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 12:28 PM
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Confidence created through successful experience and nothing else is attractive, that's the loophole.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 09:22 AM
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"The number one mistake that she [a woman] makes between the ages of 20 and 29 is that she assumes that she's never gonna get old. She assumes that she's gonna always have that nice, tight body for the rest of her life. To be fair, neither do a lot of dudes. She doesn't understand that the kids are gonna wreck her body.” Case per case basis? Whoah, big bad stretch marks. Certainly beats risking dying if you ask me. Or is it more about how men by default view a woman less attractive for a ltr if …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:14 AM
1

I already don't have energy to waste getting angry if I don't have to, I'm not dancing like a monkey continuously either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:09 AM
1

Good for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 08:01 AM
1

Yeah, that's fair. I'll take neither personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:44 PM
2

Office workers are insufferable, but most nurses are at least a 6 to 7 on the crazy scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:35 PM
1

Well, that explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:33 PM
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Some do, some don't? This range is huge, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:33 PM
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Should be fine as long as it doesn't somehow reveal something unattractive or having a libido that's lower than theirs I'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 06:32 PM
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It's not a black and white picture with 100 and 0 on each side. Almost all men have a different balance of each that's not 100 and 0. You could also define "beta" positively and negatively : either wanting to raise your kids (and I don't know what idiot will call that unnatural) or not having the woman desire you. Less and less men stand for the latter. So who knows? Only can tell it'll be less and less common over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:41 PM
2

Man, it's like the -cels. We're creating them faster than covid pop out new variants.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:38 PM
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Assuming you want sex. But yeah, one cost benefits analysis later, it's not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:36 PM
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Well, you get used to it? Not sure what else you'd do if you don't want to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:33 PM
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Beside the fact it's so a massive turn off you might be shooting yourself in the foot with anyone? Assuming you're not trolling... Well, to each their own with the relationships. Also, most women have at least a small amount of daddy issues. But shh, don't tell them that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:32 PM
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Yeah, sometimes we go with the bros to drink, and while we're not against bringing a woman, the mood and the way we behave clearly won't be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:29 PM
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No shit sherlock. That aside, looking good have an impact and get you benefits in even non sexual situations. The line between looking good and sexy is really thin though, and the source of many problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:20 AM
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You've got the wow effect, so the bias is here. Couple that with the fact that if society don't view nicely the hoes, coercing a woman into that is a surefire way to get things thrown at you at best. So a 10 year gap between 40 and 50 is fine, whereas a 5 year gap between a 18 woman and 23 man isn't (giving the sexes because double standards on that one). A reason it wouldn't work out beside that is the lifestyle : you won't be the same nor want the same things at 25, 30, and 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:16 AM
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If she is still a virgin over a given age, there's something wrong with her though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:39 AM
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Well, shocker, this is the advice! Just bother to read it yourself. And it's sure neat advice. I mean, it's not like I ever got anything beside "be yourself, you're perfect the way you are, the right one will come along".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:01 PM
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Aaaand you clearly has no bias yourself. Well, it explained how women's attraction work, and even in small interactions it keeps on making sense. Unlike the garbage we're given. The importance of looks, not to put them on a pedestal, to get my ass in the gym, that success attract women but not the other way around, that kind of stuff? Take some time reading the sidebar yourself, and challenge it to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 05:53 PM
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In that case I call it a friend with benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 02:12 PM
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Didn't we talk exactly about that before? And as before, I'll say what my issue is : how loosely we define friendship. Because a real friendship is platonic. So what I'll call it is a flirting phase. Point is : saying relationships start with "friendship" doesn't mean it'll go the other way around. So yeah, it just boils down to attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 01:35 PM
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You're entitled to wanting that, not to it happening. There's just a difference to remember. That being said, if you go for that, don't expect to have any attraction for the guy you manage to get. That aside, as long as you're clear about it? Go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:53 AM
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It's a red flag by around 30, where she most likely is holding out for someone that doesn't exist. That being said, that also means considering in most cases they are staying virgin by choice that she haven't been in a good ltr.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:43 AM
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Less opportunities to get the foot in. Also there's literally no incentives to bother "putting yourself out there". I know it's all about numbers, but I'd rather do something else than effectively wasting time chasing. That builds up expectations, and bitterness if success isn't here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 09:04 PM
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What kind of question is even that? Everyone has an ego, it's just bigger or take different forms depending on the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:25 PM
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After a certain age, if she's single, it's because another guy got tired of her shit despite that. The good ones aren't single (doesn't mean those who aren't single aren't crazy though). That's the general idea. But in the end? Because she can get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 02:24 PM
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Thing is, dating means sex more often than not, and you've been probably dealt a bad deal as a guy if you don't get that. Technically there's no contract, but if I date seriously I'm not having sex with another one, and found out she's doing it, well, it was her choice, but so is mine to stop it there. If it's casual go ham I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:56 AM
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If you're going for a man with options, first, be the best of his options. So, either get it, be attractive, or both, depending on who you gun for (so someone who wouldn't need the internet). Then don't be unattractive. Then hope for the best I guess. Yes, I'm not being sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:37 AM
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"Oh yeah, sorry you had to go without sex for two months with a lower libido, that's terrible. Now try with a much higher one for a year and a voice that constantly say" do it do it do it" in your head. Not to be redundant, but I was just born with a penis it’s not my fault." That would be what I feel like saying to a woman that complain about it. Since I learnt that preselection is a thing, will fuck you up if you complain and therefore you shouldn't say the above ever much less bring the topic…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:32 AM
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I'll just start by saying that skinny >>>> fat. So, you'll be having a better time already just by being on this side of the scale. As for the actual questions : • How skinny is too skinny? Anorexia probably. Unhealthy skinny if you will. • Is there such thing as too skinny? Yup, but way less common than obesity. Also often comes with mental disorders. • Can a woman be too big for a relationship, but small enough that you'd still have sex with her? Or vice versa? Oh come on, are women still delu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:25 AM
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On one hand, financial independence is something that someone should always have in my books, and people date in their social class. On the other, women refuse to date someone that don't make as much/more than they do, and going through a career often means someone that isn't attractive to men comes out personality wise. So if you consider more and more people to be alone to be a problem, yes we're having one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 09:26 AM
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Cost benefit analysis fail to hold up, especially when you've seen what lust from a woman looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 10:51 AM
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Attractive men get everything, less likely to get in a ltr, or it's very early and he's off the market if nothing is wrong with him. Attractive women have the options, up to her to see what she aims for. Average women can sleep around the spectrum, maybe bag an attractive man if she fits niches tastes, but otherwise, can get a ltr from the average man, but isn't guaranteed success, so way less likely to go for it (better being rejected by an attractive man than average for the ego). Average men …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 10:44 AM
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You can't do jackshit about it at this point, despite what the screeching... Things will tell you. Why? Because it's about being practical, and you'd have to get the father to take on some of the pregnancy as well as being able to breastfeed (if choosing to do so). Because of those things above, that we call biology, it defaults to as more efficient for the father to keep working since his career will take less of a hit while the mother take a step back, even purely for money. Proof is, employer…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 10:36 AM
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Because of paternal certainty, duh. Even if inaccurate to biology, that was the idea behind women having to remain virgins for marriages through history. Thing is though : nowadays virgins over a certain age present another set of problems, and not worth it either. But if you really don't get it, I'm not sure we can explain the point clearer than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 10:30 AM
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