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online dating stats show that men are something like 50x more likely to send the first message. We don't have stats on the rest of dating but you're claim that women take as much initiative as men is plainly false. I hope this knowledge can help you in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 11:11 PM
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Average people find each other literally all the time because the men approach the woman, and get rejected more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:15 PM
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If we don't legally call it "rape" then people collecting statistics on "rape" can ignore male victims, either intentionally or unintentionally. It's the same problem in the US. Feminists control rape statistics (including the ones used by the federal government) and all of the feminist researchers decided that a woman forcing a man to have sex shouldn't count as "rape." So all of the rape statistics that people see in the US erase most female rapists and male victims, and those stats are used t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/20 04:24 PM
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unattractive (not fat) tbh most women who aren't fat are at least decent looking. Unless she's horribly disfigured then she's probably not that unattractive, so I'd be willing to date her and get to know her. The fact that she approached me means she's already way more supportive of gender equality than the vast majority of women so as an egalitarian I consider that a big point in her favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 04:14 PM
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Average men do get approached Obligatory reminder that women consider 80% of men to be "below average". An 8/10 man gets approached by a fat woman and you consider that an example of an "average" man being approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 04:12 PM
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The MRM was started in the 70s by feminists. Other feminists opposed us because they were misandrists. Feminists realized they couldn't admit that the reason they oppose MRAs is because they hate men so instead they lied and claimed it was because MRAs are misogynists. 99% of people don't support equality for men, so the rest of the non-feminist population goes along with the MRA hate.
/r/MensRights08/08/20 11:33 PM
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A lot of anti-feminists (both male and female) are traditionalists. They aren't our allies anymore than feminists are.
/r/MensRights07/08/20 02:02 AM
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Most men simply want to know how to get number 2 What are you basing that on? I don't think that's the case at all, despite the stereotypes a lot of men are looking for #1. And with regard to giving bad advice for that it's very true. Women really don't seem to grasp how different dating is for men. I think some women think it's a little harder for men but they don't realize how big the gap is. "I met my boyfriend on Tinder, you should do that!" sounds like good advice for the gender that has hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 10:23 PM
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I wonder how many suitable men she's already rejected. And how many times, if any, she's tried asking a suitable man on a date instead of expecting him to make the first move.
/r/MensRights06/08/20 09:58 PM
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Why not just watch it instead of making assumptions?
/r/MensRights07/12/19 11:34 PM
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Watch it for yourself. The movie has done a lot to raise awareness of men's issues and educate people on MRAs and feminism.
/r/MensRights07/12/19 04:45 PM
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IIRC, "toxic masculinity" was actually a term coined by early MRAs, but we stopped using it once feminists hijacked it and twisted the meaning. I also want to add onto your post: The biggest contributer of "toxic masculinity" is the expectation that men take initiative and be dominant. Basically all women expect men to be assertive and dominant, and will only date men that conform to those standards. This includes feminist women, even though none of them will admit it. Hypocrisy at its finest.
/r/MensRights07/12/19 03:39 AM
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you're clearly a misandrist thank you for proving my point
/r/MensRights22/06/19 12:26 AM
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That's good but you're first comment wasn't talking about yourself, you said feminism isn't anti-men. If you don't know anything about feminism, then don't try to speak for all feminists. Trust me, the anti-feminists on this subreddit know A LOT about feminism and we do keep up with the discourse. There's a reason we are anti-feminist. If you're new to men's issues I highly recommend watching The Red Pill documentary about men's rights. It was made by a feminist who changed her views after inter…
/r/MensRights19/06/19 03:44 AM
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leading to people getting the weird notion that feminists want men dead stop strawmanning. We're talking about massive feminist organizations and the former president of the united states. Even the feminist account in the OP has posts like this. Go show me the feminists who speak out against any of this because I haven't seen it. All I see are feminists who pretend it's only extremists on tumblr that have these views.
/r/MensRights19/06/19 03:28 AM
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"Intersectional feminism" needs to stop actively fighting against men's rights if you ever hope for anybody to think you support gender equality. One of our movements has a history of fighting for gender equality, and the other has a history of bigotry. We're not the ones who need to change.
/r/MensRights19/06/19 03:25 AM
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NOW isn't feminism? The Feminist Majority Foundation isn't feminism? All of the feminist subreddits aren't feminism? What about the OP account? Do you think they every criticized academic feminists for saying women can't rape men? Did they ever criticize Obama for thinking women can't rape men? If feminists aren't willing to criticize the wolfs in sheeps clothing, do they actually support equality?
/r/MensRights19/06/19 03:15 AM
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This is due to toxic masculinity and the stigma surrounding sexual violence against men those same feminists say things like "teach men not to rape" because they think only men are rapists. Those same feminists cite the NISVS because they don't think women can rape men. Those same feminists call MRAs misogynists for trying to help male victims. They didn't post this because they care about male victims, they posted this to make people think that feminism isn't about misandry.
/r/MensRights19/06/19 02:56 AM
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feminists have turned HARD on rape and DV in the last few years. Given the prior views of the feminist movement, and given that they still support a sexist approach to actually addressing these issues beyond an instagram post, it's obviously just damage control. Call me when that feminist instagram account wants to overhaul VAWA or change the way feminist academics define "rape"
/r/MensRights19/06/19 02:54 AM
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That's a non-issue that always comes up as an excuse. Nobody is proposing that we send women to jail just because a man is found not guilty. If she's found beyond a reasonable doubt that she lied, then that's the only time she goes to jail. There's no realistic risk to innocent women.
/r/MensRights09/06/19 05:54 PM
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you're a bad troll, try harder
/r/MensRights09/06/19 03:47 PM
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/r/offmychest has a reputation for feminist mods that delete a lot of posts. /r/trueoffmychest was created as an alternative.
/r/MensRights28/02/19 05:01 AM
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Oh boy I can cry while my girlfriend beats me or pulls a knife on me? That makes it all better! No need to address the actual problem as long as I can cry about it.
/r/MensRights27/02/19 02:37 PM
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I have a great relationship with my mother. I'd be curious about places like /r/theredpill though since they have more in common with feminists than we do.
/r/MensRights29/12/18 04:02 PM
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But that was the good kind of segregation. Women get women-only time but men don't get men-only time. With this, there will eventually be male-only gym sections or gym times, which feminists have always been against.
/r/MensRights04/12/18 03:57 AM
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Are you saying you don't consider it anti-male to exclude male rape victims from rape studies? Or that you agree we never needed a white house counsel on men and boys because males don't have any problems? This is what we're talking about, you say "feminism is for men too" but when feminists hold anti-male views, you defend them.
/r/MensRights01/12/18 04:56 PM
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And you really think that’s because of feminists? What makes you think that? Because we actually have personal experience with men's issues. No offense but what have you ever done aside from post a tweet to /r/mensrights? I left an abusive relationship 10 years ago and that's how I became involved with the MRM. This subreddit has people who have actually been personally involved in fighting for men's equality for even longer, and we have repeatedly run into opposition from feminists. From the Du…
/r/MensRights01/12/18 04:12 PM
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that proves that feminists are in charge of anything meaningful in this country. We just had a feminist president (who was anti-male), did you forget about that?
/r/MensRights01/12/18 03:59 PM
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But this sub is just anti-feminist and little else. I personally wish the moderators steered the sub in a more positive direction, but I think some members of this sub feel very strongly about how evil feminism is and that any effort to move attention off of it is immoral Even many of us who realize that feminism is anti-male also wish the mods would crack down on off-topic posts. Men's rights is naturally going to be anti-feminist until feminism stops opposing us but that shouldn't be the focus…
/r/MensRights01/12/18 03:58 PM
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menslib is an anti-male subreddit created to oppose men's rights. The fact that you think that joke of a subreddit is an example of feminism caring about men just shows how naive you really are. And why do you think MRAs never talked to feminists? Did you not know that the MRM was created by ex-feminists? You're obviously new to men's issues, you should try watching the documentary about MRAs, made by an ex-feminist, if you want to actually learn something.
/r/MensRights01/12/18 03:48 PM
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Actually MRAs tried to work with feminists, it was feminists who rejected us. MRAs also talk to plenty of feminists and know a lot more about feminism than you do, while feminists never bother to learn about MRAs. Even you right here are making assumptions about MRAs despite never talking to us and never learning anything about our movement.
/r/MensRights01/12/18 03:44 PM
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Fempositive has also had several articles whining about "mansplaining"
/r/MensRights01/12/18 03:42 PM
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95% of self-proclaimed feminsits consider us misogynists because we want to help men. Feminism is a hate movement. This one example of of one feminist site giving lip service to men's issues doesn't change that. Even the feminists you posted are anti-male, but they know they have to pay lip service to men's issues every now and then so naive people like you will keep supporting feminism.
/r/MensRights01/12/18 03:30 PM
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Watch the documentary about MRAs: http://theredpillmovie.com/
/r/MensRights29/11/18 01:59 AM
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Oh wow, I stand corrected it looks like that subreddit has been almost entirely taken over by SJWs lol where have you been? That happened years ago. And it isn't just users, the mods there hate men too now. /r/Drama is sort of an alternative but it can lean too far the other way and has some actual Nazis who post there.
/r/MensRights28/11/18 02:26 AM
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and defend the controversial MRA 'ThotAudit' And once again everything is MRAs. We really we the boogeyman.
/r/MensRights28/11/18 02:24 AM
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Camille Paglia a feminist who actually does support equality.
/r/MensRights21/11/18 03:03 AM
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Children need two parents more than they need a mother and a father. Most people are heterosexual so most two-parent households will need a father.
/r/MensRights13/11/18 03:40 PM
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MRAs talk about it. Nobody else talks about it because they think men are too privileged.
/r/MensRights13/11/18 04:58 AM
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How pathetic is your life that you spam the /r/mensrights subreddit with garbage like this?
/r/MensRights13/11/18 04:07 AM
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God you're a fucking idiot OP. What "public awareness" of an epidemic of false accusations? What is your source that this has anything at all to do with the decline of Jezebel? You don't have any because you're a fucking idiot.
/r/MensRights13/11/18 04:04 AM
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I've had that happen too. A lot of redditors believe that if you support gender equality it automatically means you're wrong about everything.
/r/MensRights08/11/18 01:40 AM
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Girl Scouts is a terrible organization that doesn't do half the stuff Boy Scouts does, and girls deserve an organization like the Boy Scouts. But the Boy Scouts should remain boys-only. It's important for boys to learn to form male friendships without feeling the pressure to impress girls all the time. Maybe Boy Scouts can create a separate group for girls, so they have something better than Girl Scouts while boys can have their own thing.
/r/MensRights07/11/18 02:48 AM
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lol yeah it is stupid red pill bullshit. /r/TRP got quarantined so now they're spilling over here, they should be gone soon.
/r/MensRights18/10/18 02:53 AM
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Is this a troll account or are you actually like this?
/r/MensRights13/10/18 05:24 PM
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You're being downvoted because you're implying that we only think men deserve rights. It's like saying that BLM thinks white lives don't matter. MRAs are egalitarians and support rights for both men and women. You should read more about our history, because our movement was started by feminists who had already fought for women's rights. In fact the world's first battered women's shelter was created by Erin Pizzey, an MRA.
/r/MensRights13/10/18 05:05 PM
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What would you know about being a man? Grow up and ditch the high school mentality. The correct response to this situation is to leave the toxic relationship not assert your dominance because your insecure about her fucking somebody else.
/r/MensRights13/10/18 05:02 PM
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Did you forget when two women cornered Kavanaugh and screamed in his face when he wouldn't look them in the eyes? Try that with reverse genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 01:09 AM
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I care about observable facts. Obviously not. It's an observable fact that the pro-feminist men's movement is anti-male. It's an observable fact that the men's rights movement supports equality. It's an observable fact that the feminist movement has opposed equality for men. It's delusional to deny any of those based on your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 01:14 AM
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Which men were already getting from MRAs, while feminists opposed it on the grounds that supporting men's equality is misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:26 PM
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A group of men who think it's misogynistic to care about men's issues is pathetic. They hate themselves so much that they've convinced themselves it would be bigotry to support their own rights, which is pathetic. That's my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:25 PM
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Supporting gender equality and wanting to get rid of traditional gender roles means hating women. Feminist logic never fails to surprise me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:14 AM
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They believe it's misogynistic to care about men's issues and they support misandry. That sounds pathetic to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:13 AM
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Of course not, you're one of the good ones! It's all the OTHER men who should cut their cocks off for being rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:12 AM
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/r/menslib was created specifically because feminists were losing, so they had to reverse and start pretending to care about issues they used to say didn't even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:11 AM
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/r/mensrights is honest and has sources to support their claims. The entire premise of /r/menslib is dishonest and they consistently lie without having any sources. I have problems with /r/mensrights, but they tell the truth and /r/menslib does not (and will ban anybody who points that out)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:10 AM
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Good idea, I will do both when I have a little more time.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 01:02 PM
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When I have more time I will and I will also post it to /r/mensrights.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 12:56 PM
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I commented in the /r/announcement thread with some of Kimmel's views
/r/MensRights28/09/18 01:19 AM
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I commented in the /r/announcements thread and I'll repost it here (edited to remove subreddit links) For information on positive masculinity, please see the resources available at Stony Brook University's Center for the Study of Men and Masculinities I don't even care about theredpill being banned but WHAT THE FUCK /u/spez, /u/landoflobsters anybody at reddit, I think we deserve an explanation why you are explicitly endorsing an extreme misandrist like Michael Kimmel. For anybody who is unaware…
/r/MensRights28/09/18 01:04 AM
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We aren't defending /r/trp. They were misogynistic, but no worse than several feminist subreddits. And now the reddit admins are explicitly endorsing feminists who believe that men can't be victims of DV.
/r/MensRights28/09/18 12:23 AM
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Feminists. This is what most feminists think about DV and one of the issues MRAs and feminists disagree over is whether all victims of DV need help, or just women.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 02:35 AM
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Because they don't think male lives matter. It was only about saving female lives.
/r/MensRights26/09/18 02:31 AM
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men and women are not equal. Women in their 20s will not be single unless they choose to or have impossible standards, and either one of those is a red flag if she makes it to 30 and is still single.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 11:10 PM
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That study looks like it's about when they got married, not when they started dating. They likely started dating in their 20s, and other studies show that couples who date for a few years before marriage have stronger marriages. I would view it as a red flag if a woman is still single when she's 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 09:01 PM
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it's simple. If gender roles benefit women, it's pro-feminist. If gender roles benefit men, it's anti-feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 12:52 AM
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He’s also responsible for the cat calling video where a woman was filmed walking around the city the one that feminists used as proof that catcalling is rampant even though the video just showed men saying "good morning?"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 12:50 AM
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Expect, engage and reward male gender roles Of course. Feminists have always supported sexism against men if it benefits women. Feminists support sexism against men so much that even acknowledging sexism against men is anti-feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 12:49 AM
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I LITERALLY SAID THAT THEY'RE CRINGEY MEMES THAT 12 YEAR OLDS CAN ENJOY, IT IMPLIES THAT I DON'T ENJOY THEM Jesus fucking christ. okay you're definitely a mature individual and not at all acting like a 12 year old, sorry for the mistake...
/r/MensRights20/08/18 04:35 PM
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You used the word "feminazi" and watch a channel which "rekt" feminists. You're the target audience for cringey memes which only 12 year olds can enjoy.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 03:37 PM
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Because forcefully circumcising babies like a civilized white person is so much better
/r/MensRights19/08/18 01:02 AM
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By 2021 they'll require boards with 6 members to have at least 3 women. And nobody should be trying to have women on their board, they should be trying to have a board of qualified people willing to put the work in. Most of those people are men. Your gender-reversal doesn't work because of that. The people who are qualified to serve on boards and willing to put the work in are disproportionately male. This is especially true in certain industries such as tech. A tech firm should not be expected …
/r/MensRights14/08/18 03:18 PM
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they are different things not to feminists. Most feminists consider MRAs misogynists for this reason: They believe that talking about men's issues is anti-woman.
/r/MensRights27/07/18 01:40 AM
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I've been banned from a lot of subreddits, including some very large ones. Defaults like /r/bestof and /r/news will delete comments that support gender equality. /r/science is known for having feminist moderators who censor discussions on any posts that have to do with gender. I almost got a permaban from /r/femradebates after I said that there are examples of feminists who oppose equality for men (such as NOW or Michael Kimmel), but the mods did overturn the ban when I complained.
/r/MensRights27/07/18 01:39 AM
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National Coalition For Men is a good organization. CAFE in Canada is another. And like /u/DougDante says it doesn't even take money, just be active on Twitter and other sites spreading the message and call your Congressperson.
/r/MensRights27/07/18 01:05 AM
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Feminists have never had any real criticisms of MRAs which is why they always make things up like this. MRAs support Crews for being a victim of sex assault (as we've supported all male victims long before feminism ever did) but also condemn his sexist generalizations about men. Where are the feminists criticizing Crews for saying that all men view women as objects?
/r/MensRights16/07/18 05:19 PM
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We were only separating fathers before, and not even reuniting the father when we deported them. Trump is the first to separate mothers from their children, and that's the only parent that society actually cares about.
/r/MensRights01/07/18 12:49 PM
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go away troll
/r/MensRights01/07/18 06:22 AM
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go check the statistics yourself, the vast majority of police brutality victims are male.
/r/MensRights30/06/18 09:24 PM
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why not? This only happens to males.
/r/MensRights30/06/18 02:12 AM
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Some are, others have been pushing for more sexism like this. FWIW in this particular case the Justice Secretary is a conservative, not a feminist.
/r/MensRights28/06/18 04:13 PM
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Most SJWs are white women. Non-white women aren't as insane. White feminist women need to convince themselves that they're oppressed so they attack white males.
/r/MensRights22/06/18 02:33 AM
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It's sexist. Why are we only teaching men not to rape? Are women not rapists too? It would be like a white nationalist saying that we should only teach blacks not to kill people.
/r/MensRights18/06/18 11:23 PM
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based on your username I think you should know that most of us want the comic on the left changed, not the one on the right.
/r/MensRights18/06/18 01:18 AM
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Why is Ms Magazine so awful? And don't forget, this is who runs Ms Magazine
/r/MensRights17/06/18 02:40 AM
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Seriously hope you're not suggesting that men never sacrificed themselves before feminism.
/r/MensRights07/06/18 09:57 PM
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Nobody has said anything about victims wanting to cause trouble, or all members of MR wanting to cause trouble Rape victims on this sub are banned and all members of MR are banned. I did not make that up. You then said that they only banned people who wanted to cause trouble, which would include everybody on this subreddit.
/r/MensRights31/05/18 05:27 PM
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No, you made that up. No I didn't, they ban all MRAs from their subreddit automatically, which you apparently think is justified because all of them are just looking to cause trouble. We have male and female rape victims here that are banned, and you claim they deserved it because all they wanted to do was cause trouble. I've come across several male and a few female victims on this sub and assume there are a lot more here And you believe that all of them should be banned from r.rape? Because th…
/r/MensRights30/05/18 08:48 PM
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it's a dead subreddit so they can convince naive people like you that they care about men. /r/mensrights is an actual large active subreddit for helping male rape victims and instead of supporting us they ban every user who posts here.
/r/MensRights30/05/18 02:26 AM
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It's mostly true, they ban almost everybody on reddit who actively discusses male rape victims and works to achieve more support for male rape victims. They aren't literal thought police, but if you actually come to the only large community on reddit dedicated to helping male victims, you will be banned from there. That is how much that subreddit opposes anybody helping male rape victims.
/r/MensRights29/05/18 10:43 PM
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My comment was pointing out that r.rape bans everybody from /r/mensrights, which is by far the largest community on reddit advocating for male victims of rape. You accused me of making shit up even though the OP confirms this.
/r/MensRights29/05/18 10:34 PM
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I'm not familiar with the Rape sub then why are you defending those misandrists? The guys who get told to piss off are the ones who come in and want to use raped men as a weapon to attack feminism somehow You believe that literally every single MRA is just using raped men as a "weapon"? Fuck you asshole, we've been fighting for male rape victims since before you were born and it's extremely insulting for you to tell me that the men's rights movement only wants to cause trouble. Not to mention ho…
/r/MensRights29/05/18 10:31 PM
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make shit up What proof do you have that the OP is lying? You can try it right now, go post on r.rape. You can't. None of us can, because everybody here is banned from there.
/r/MensRights29/05/18 10:29 PM
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So because they throw in an obviously insincere link that makes up for banning anybody who tries to support male victims of rape? Are you accusing the OP of faking this post?
/r/MensRights29/05/18 10:28 PM
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Just message the mods, explain why you want to join and they will enable you if that is technically possible. The mods are all anti-male feminists who don't support anybody who thinks male victims of rape deserve support. Did you really think this was all just a misunderstanding? There's nothing to explain, r.rape knows exactly what they're doing. Male victims should go to /r/supportformen, a subreddit run by people who actually care about men. /Rape is a support sub for extremely vulnerable peo…
/r/MensRights29/05/18 02:52 PM
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r.rape doesn't believe that men can be victims of rape and ban anybody, male or female, who thinks male victims of rape deserve the same support as female victims. This is feminism. Plugging /r/SupportforMen/, a subreddit that actually supports male victims instead of denying they exist
/r/MensRights29/05/18 02:44 PM
3

It's not a fringe view at all. On top of the ones that /u/HeForeverBleeds linked there's also Hillary Clinton who didn't take it quite as far as not wanting women in prison at all, but did still think women shouldn't be punished as harshly as males.
/r/MensRights24/05/18 10:18 PM
1

We do have a lot of articles here about black male issues. But ironically some MRAs actually don't think those are gender issues and are instead only racial issues (even though it's often a gender issue more than a racial one). I posted this a while ago and it was downvoted because people said that he was only targeted because he was black and his gender had nothing to do with it.
/r/MensRights23/05/18 12:27 PM
15

It varies. I think 2016 woke a lot of lefties up to how bad feminism is. A lot of Bernie Sanders supporters saw the sexism in the primaries and I've talked to some of them who are mostly supportive. The whole Bernie Bros narrative created a lot more anti-feminists on the left. But there are also a lot of feminists on the left and most of them react as you'd expect. A lot of true leftists are also upset with the Democrats for abandoning leftist policies in favor of identity politics. Yes, see abo…
/r/MensRights18/05/18 05:23 PM
4

It's not always the opinion itself. Cringy memes about "feminazis" do more harm than good, but a thoughtful post criticizing specific feminist views is good even though it's basically the same opinion. Or you get somebody going on about "soyboys" or whatever and that's usually a teenager too. I don't mean to insult younger MRAs but there are some immature posters here.
/r/MensRights15/05/18 09:02 PM
1

Feminism went too far and MRAs have become more mainstream. A lot of liberal men were put off by Clinton's sexism, including liberal MRAs like myself. But before that, the US had a feminist president and Canada still has a feminist PM. MRAs also still don't have much power or influence, Trump is not a feminist but he's hardly an MRA.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 07:16 PM
3

On the other side keep an eye out for high school MRAs. A lot of the low-effort negative content here, which does more harm than good, comes from teenagers who now have the summer off. Downvote shit content and upvote the good.
/r/MensRights15/05/18 02:56 PM
11

I am honestly very democratic at this day in age except for identity politics how it is presented. I'm the same way and I hate it. The left has gone nuts with this stuff.
/r/MensRights14/05/18 03:04 PM
28

Not the type of equality we want but maybe now people will realize how fucked up our college courts are.
/r/MensRights14/05/18 02:54 PM
2

But there are 5x more white men than black men so why don't you adjust for population?
/r/MensRights12/05/18 09:05 PM
0

no it doesn't. Stop repeating alt-right bullshit. Black men are several times more likely to be victims of police brutality than white men.
/r/MensRights12/05/18 06:31 PM
6

Just because feminists blame everything on men doesn't mean MRAs blame everything on women. Who cares if it's done by men? Does that make it okay?
/r/MensRights12/05/18 03:54 PM
0

Police brutality happens to black men more than white men, but it happens to all men more than women. This is a racial issue but it's more a gender issue.
/r/MensRights12/05/18 02:35 PM
1

I didn't know that so I'm sorry, I was just going based off what other people said and the official Mormon position on gays.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 04:29 PM
3

Somebody posted an article about Scouts losing members, and then somebody else explained that the context was that the Mormons who pulled out are upset about gays and women. It was relevant to the conversation so stop getting mad about it.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 04:15 PM
4

who aren't conservative/republican/traditionalist/religious most of us aren't Each day the fucking cuntservatism, regressiveness, traditionalism, orange shitler-worshipping, bigotry, homophobia, xenophobia, racism, misogyny of the speshul republitard snowflake-filled MRM is getting worse and worse. you sound like a troll though
/r/MensRights10/05/18 04:09 PM
0

The sub is disproportionately atheist so it comes up occasionally. There was also a lot of Islamaphobia here back around the election when the alt-right was brigading us but I haven't seen it lately. The Mormons pulling out of the Scouts started some conversation but tbf the Mormons pulled out because of their own homophobia so I'm not in a rush to defend them.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 04:03 PM
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GSA is a separate organization that doesn't want to do what BSA does. They are the most upset about this decision because it means they'll be losing girl members. AFAIK most troops won't be co-ed, they will just just add all-female troops to the scouts.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 03:54 PM
1

Then they can join the scouts. They aren't the ones being discriminated against, they're upset that the boy scouts doesn't discriminate against gays anymore. Gay men also need support and the Scouts shouldn't have to discriminate against gay males just to make Mormons feel welcome.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 03:52 PM
3

race had something to do with it but gender had more to do with it.
/r/MensRights10/05/18 03:29 PM
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Her sister Serena is married to reddit founder /u/kn0thing. I wonder what her thoughts are.
/r/MensRights09/05/18 02:25 PM
21

This. If you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she lied, then convict her. If not then don't.
/r/MensRights08/05/18 07:50 PM
4

Last year a popular thread on /r/TrollX bragged about getting a guy fired from a STEM job because he was a nerdy virgin introvert. Two of the mods of TrollX are reddit admins (and Ellen Pao used to be CEO) so there are already people at big tech companies that want socially awkward nerdy males to be fired.
/r/MensRights04/05/18 03:29 PM
7

If she stays in moderate shape then she has a nice body. She just has to not be fat or anorexic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 10:54 PM
3

If by "ugly" you mean fat then all she has to do is stop being fat. If she isn't fat then she's still going to be considered more desirable than most men. She'll still get more messages on a dating site than most men. He's a 5'8 regular Joe and she's 6'2 and absolutely gorgeous which is obviously a very rare exception, and I'm still assuming he had to work harder for the date (he pursued her not the other way around) there are plenty of attractive (but obviously not gorgeous) career women who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 10:50 PM
2

Glad to see it but why does your sidebar link to /r/MenGetRapedToo/ instead of the /r/SupportforMen/ subreddit? MenGetRapedToo is a feminist-run subreddit that's come across as more interested in saying "see we care about men too now shut up" than actually helping men. /r/supportformen can be an actual subreddit for male rape victims. Also the "men only" that shows in the title of your sub comes off as unnecessarily hostile. The sub is for male domestic violence so you don't need the "men only" …
/r/MensRights30/04/18 01:19 PM
3

Incels can get pretty bad. /r/incels was literally advocating raping women before they were banned. They're real, but they don't have anything to do with MRAs. That part is a media concoction.
/r/MensRights28/04/18 03:23 AM
2

A lot of bluepillers (not all but enough) are anti-MRA in addition to being anti-TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 02:54 AM
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We blame feminism for preventing us from addressing men's issues, not for causing those issues. And that has nothing to do with mic blaming MRAs for an attack that was completely unrelated to MRAs.
/r/MensRights27/04/18 06:16 PM
2

Yes. I am. Now fuck off.
/r/MensRights27/04/18 11:42 AM
3

You don't belong here. Try /r/theredpill
/r/MensRights27/04/18 04:44 AM
2

Because all women are evil right guys?
/r/MensRights26/04/18 10:50 PM
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Good. He had his day in court, and was found guilty.
/r/MensRights26/04/18 08:38 PM
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Being called a rapist for conduct that happened 30 years ago ?? if he raped somebody 30 years ago then yeah he's a rapist. The rule of law is the cornerstone of our democratic system. If we don't have that what do we have ?? That's literally what happened here. He was found guilty in a court of law, by a jury of his peers.
/r/MensRights26/04/18 08:36 PM
1

And women everywhere thank you
/r/MensRights25/04/18 03:40 PM
2

Ironically /u/BLUEUPTON would be the "intruder" here. He's not even an MRA, he's a sad MGTOW who decided to drop by just so he could bitch about women and "liberal pussies"
/r/MensRights25/04/18 03:30 PM
1

File a Title IX complaint especially if she's talking about "manspreading."
/r/MensRights25/04/18 02:32 PM
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We became too mainstream for them to ignore, so now they have to make up lies about us in the mainstream media.
/r/MensRights24/04/18 10:05 PM
2

http://archive.is/crzXB
/r/MensRights24/04/18 10:05 PM
1

An anti-semite AND a misogynist? What a rare combination /s Fuck off, this isn't the place for that. There are plenty of great women out there.
/r/MensRights24/04/18 06:07 PM
1

such as asking a woman for her phone number a dozen times when she has made clear she is not interested that's what feminists say they mean when they complain about street harassment, but then this is what they actually consider street harassment
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 02:12 PM
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They exist among anybody who is interested in gender issues and supports gender equality. The reason you haven't heard of NOW or NOMAS or even the Prime Minister of Canada is because you obviously don't care very much about gender equality. The same reason you didn't know that several countries already fine people for street harassment. Rather than be a condescending little douche about your own ignorance maybe you should try learning about this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 07:19 PM
1

yes, accuse this of being about strawfeminists who don't really exist or don't have power even though these feminists have already successfully passed these laws in other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 07:10 PM
0

It doesn't exist in America yet but if feminists have their way it will soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:57 PM
6

So anxiety requires the patient to casually bring up their mental stress to their pcp. I diagnose that shit but apparently don't understand any of it. You think that you've never had a patient with anxiety who didn't feel comfortable telling you about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:46 PM
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In France and some other countries they've made "street harassment" illegal. If you compliment a woman in public you have to pay a fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:43 PM
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It's made by the patient deciding that they are anxious and want to seek out help for it. And then opening up to a psychiatrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:41 PM
2

She dreams of cuddling with a tall 10/10 rich guy. He dreams of cuddling with an average girl he knows. They even have "prostitutes" now that are only for cuddling with no sex. Guess which gender is paying the other just for the chance to cuddle?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:40 PM
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Only a small number of men regularly get those one-night stands to begin with, and usually the woman is less attractive than him, so maybe women should stop focusing on that small fraction of men and look at the hundreds of men that want a stable relationship with her instead. All you're proving is that women are more likely to fall in love with sexually aggressive men than a man who's interested in a stable relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:38 PM
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That's why women complain about men just "not being ready" for a long term commitment much more often. Or maybe those women just want something to complain about. Women reject men more often than men reject women. Or they complain about them ghosting them after one night of sex more often And women ghost men more often than men ghost women. By the time a man is ready to propose marriage to a woman it's likely she has been ready and waiting for a considerable time period already And he's likely f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:34 PM
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Women are more likely to be diagnosed with anxiety but that doesn't mean it's more common in women. Society tells men that we're not allowed to have mental disorders and we should never complain about stress or anxiety, so I'd expect men with anxiety to keep quiet about it and not seek help. Way too many women consider it a dealbreaker if a man shows any vulnerability (including anxiety) so guys just tough it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:31 PM
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Not every anti-SJW wants equal rights dumbass.
/r/MensRights21/04/18 07:09 PM
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Men should not be allowed to complain about any issues or discrimination they face Isn't that what you're for? Since you evidently believe that we should not have any subreddit for discussing men's issues, and instead you want this subreddit killed and replaced with a sub for bitching about tumblr SJWs.
/r/MensRights20/04/18 07:12 PM
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Followed by our daily comments by people who don't even care about men's rights (ie you). If you don't want /r/mensrights to be a productive place for discussing men's issues then why are you even here?
/r/MensRights20/04/18 07:10 PM
1

There is it. the Magic "harmful" word. and the magic "believed" word. Who needs reality when we can just talk about what people "believe"?
/r/MensRights17/04/18 08:07 PM
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The above user is saying a week or two. There aren't any crimes with a statute of limitations of only two weeks.
/r/MensRights17/04/18 06:51 PM
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That's if the person is unconcious or the other person knew you didn't want sex. This chart would say that this was not rape.
/r/MensRights17/04/18 06:49 PM
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To be clear, most MRAs don't think all women are incapable of serving, but on average most women are not capable due to biological physical differences. If a woman meets the same qualifications as men, then most MRAs wouldn't say she's unqualified
/r/MensRights16/04/18 07:00 PM
1

Encouraging victims to go to the police is not the same as accusing a victim of being a troll based only on them not going to the police.
/r/MensRights16/04/18 12:27 PM
1

FWIW I've never like Elam or Esmay but you've always seemed like a reasonable person, so I'm inclined to side with you here.
/r/MensRights16/04/18 01:15 AM
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Society's view of male victims vs female victims has always been an MRA issue. And most victims don't go to the police for a lot of reasons. Your comment is the trollish one.
/r/MensRights16/04/18 01:02 AM
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....and? You're point is that the husband was being sexist but that you believe he was justified in being sexist, because apparently all males should be treated as criminals. Does that also apply for race? Nevermind that he had no justification for shooting the teen regardless, as it's illegal to shoot an unarmed person in the back when they are running away like that.
/r/MensRights15/04/18 12:57 PM
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Is that the case though? Do you think the husband would have shot at a black girl as she was running away? Do you think they would have automatically assumed a black girl was a thug trying to break into their house? How often do police mistreat black girls vs black boys or even white boys? If police have a strong bias against males in this situation why are you assuming that civilians are not biased?
/r/MensRights15/04/18 12:56 PM
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Would the same thing have happened if the black teen was a girl? No? Then maybe gender has something to do with it. Especially if white males are stereotypes as criminals more than black girls, then maybe it's primarily about gender. And if society tolerates violence against white males more than black females, then maybe the husband shooting the kid in the back while he's running away is primarily about gender. Statistics show this type of thing would happen to a white boy more often than a bla…
/r/MensRights15/04/18 12:54 PM
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Comments in other threads are talking about this as if the boy's race was the only factor, ignoring that this happens to black males a lot more than it happens to black females.
/r/MensRights15/04/18 12:32 AM
1

No, you just said that I'm paranoid because I think that women sometimes lie about birth control or that they can rape men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 08:59 PM
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women never lie and they never rape men okay
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 08:11 PM
2

Abortion is a lot easier than child support. Men don't wear condoms with their partners sometimes because the partner lied about birth control to trick him into getting her pregnant. Or she straight up sperm jacks or even rapes him. That would happen less if she couldn't steal his money too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 07:34 PM
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Did that country have easy access to abortion and birth control?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 07:32 PM
1

How honest are women being when they say they don't mind male vulnerability? Not honest at all. Aside from the feminists complaining about "emotional labor," most women in general aren't sexually attracted to vulnerable men. They might like male friends who are vulnerable, but vulnerable men are seen as too weak and insecure by most women looking for a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 06:26 PM
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Young women don't have to deal with it to the extent men do. 20 year old women are rarely rejected by men while 20 year old men are rejected by women all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 08:56 PM
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Heartbreaks and disillusions seem to tackle them a lot harder than they tackle men Because men are used to it. Men have to deal with those same heartbreaks in our 20s, but women never really face rejection or the thought of being involuntarily single until they get close to 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 03:24 PM
2

I can never take misogynists who call people "beta cuck" seriously.
/r/MensRights11/04/18 08:06 PM
6

And if HR ignores /u/Doogle89 he should contact the Equal Employment Commission.
/r/MensRights11/04/18 01:46 PM
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Everybody should email the Google Doodle team about this. They have an email contact specifically for suggesting new doodles: https://www.google.com/doodles/about Contact info is at the bottom. Some of us emailed them last year which obviously didn't work but the more of us that email the harder it will be for them to ignore us.
/r/MensRights11/04/18 12:25 PM
1

I believe that we should have universal healthcare and that people should be able to get an education without 100,000 in debt. I believe that the war on drugs is wrong. I believe that gay people deserve marriage equality and shouldn't be fired for being gay. I believe that our minimum wage needs to be increased. Maybe the modern Democratic party doesn't reflect those views and focuses on SJW bullshit too much but that's not the entire left.
/r/MensRights11/04/18 01:48 AM
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Aside from gender issues I agree with liberals. And conservatives aren't exactly fighting for gender equality either and they oppose MRAs on issues like criminal justice reform. I don't consider myself as liberal as I used to and I no longer support Democrats, but it's certainly possible to be a liberal and an egalitarian. SJWs don't define the entire left, even though they do have a lot of power there lately.
/r/MensRights11/04/18 01:42 AM
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Reddit isn't great, but they allow us to exist and haven't banned us yet. I'm not saying we should give them gold but the feminist subreddits hate /u/spez for not banning us yet so that's something.
/r/MensRights11/04/18 01:41 AM
1

"Every time I hear a black man raise his voice I assume he's about to kill somebody" Now that sounds racist. As a man who was in an abusive relationship I can tell you that a woman screaming can also be pretty fucking terrifying. Especially since you know that if anybody hears the screaming they'll assume your the abusive one.
/r/MensRights11/04/18 01:30 AM
1

Did a transman steal your girlfriend? Why are so hostile to trans people? You didn't make this post because you care about men's rights. The only reason you made this post was to whine about transgendered people.
/r/MensRights10/04/18 09:38 PM
1

#triggered
/r/MensRights10/04/18 09:09 PM
1

Cry about it some more.
/r/MensRights10/04/18 09:04 PM
1

Okay retard, whatever you say. Have fun whining about pointless non-issues because you don't care about men's rights.
/r/MensRights10/04/18 09:04 PM
1

Then use the stall dumbass.
/r/MensRights10/04/18 08:59 PM
2

That's a good find but your link is broken. I found the link on morbidreality you might want to repost it: https://imgur.com/a/86H9B
/r/MensRights10/04/18 04:02 PM
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that you derail the conversation to what you want to talk about yes I'm such a hypocrite for wanting to talk about men's rights on a subreddit for men's rights.
/r/MensRights10/04/18 03:59 PM
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You're right I'm being way too hostile I should follow your lead because your so respectful and you obviously care so much about men's rights that's why you want to derail discussions of men's rights with off-topic posts like this.
/r/MensRights10/04/18 03:25 PM
1

You're not even "clouding the issue" you're just lying. This law applied to men and women. Men who identify as women would be allowed to use the women's room
/r/MensRights10/04/18 01:28 PM
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Regardless of your point how does that have anything to do with men's rights? In what way are men being discriminated against here? Women who identify as men can use the men's room and men who identify as women can use the women's room. Why is that a men's rights issue if the genders are being treated equally? Fuck off to some anti-SJW subreddit if you want to whine about transgender people this doesn't belong on /r/mensrights.
/r/MensRights10/04/18 01:27 PM
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And the bill also applies to transwomen using the women's room. /u/Rethgil is just lying in the title because they hate transgendered people and want to hijack the men's rights sub to push their agenda that has nothing to do with men's rights.
/r/MensRights10/04/18 01:25 PM
1

Took great care and edited the title three times before I posted to be fair and clear. then maybe you should have edited a fourth time because you're lying when you say "no choice for men." The bill was gender neutral. Transmen can use the men's room and transwomen can use the women's room. Where's the men's rights issue? Where's the discrimination?
/r/MensRights10/04/18 01:23 PM
1

that's true
/r/MensRights09/04/18 11:16 PM
2

by the heavy handed censorship here lol. This subreddit if anything doesn't have enough "censorship." Too many anti-SJW posts that belong on /r/tumblrinaction that drown out more productive discussions.
/r/MensRights09/04/18 09:10 PM
1

Some men want to be fathers to their children. Other men don't want to be forced into fatherhood against their will. What's the problem?
/r/MensRights09/04/18 05:27 PM
2

Does anybody have statistics on domestic abuse involving property damage like this?
/r/MensRights08/04/18 10:01 PM
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I made this post to /r/undelete a few days ago about /r/science. A feminist moderator of /r/science posted a biased news article to push a feminist agenda then censored the top comment criticizing the study. It's not the first time something like that has happened. /r/science mods love to push their agenda.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 09:37 PM
5

It depends on the facts. Are we talking about global warming or the wage gap? Both sides believe lies.
/r/MensRights08/04/18 09:35 PM
2

FYI you can also email Google Doodle directly to request doodles: https://www.google.com/doodles/about
/r/MensRights06/04/18 04:51 PM
2

It's a sexist term used by "alpha males" who want to shame men into conforming to traditionalist gender roles.
/r/MensRights06/04/18 12:06 PM
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Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLzeakKC6fE
/r/MensRights06/04/18 12:03 PM
2

white people, and those are exactly who we need to have more kids. Why do white people need to have more kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 06:38 PM
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Great to hear him come forward like this. I doubt anybody can tell The Rock that he's a "soyboy" or not a "real man" because he cried.
/r/MensRights05/04/18 03:29 PM
1

Or maybe they feel a sexist obligation to make random women happy and feel like a failure when they encounter a woman who isn't smiling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 12:51 PM
1

MRAs weren't anti-feminist at first though. So that doesn't explain why feminists oppose us, because they opposed us before we became anti-feminist too.
/r/MensRights30/03/18 11:06 PM
1

Affirmative action is a minor issue and doesn't come close to what feminism has done to gender issues. White people also don't face discrimination on the scale that men do so the NAACP not helping white people isn't relevant. Black people actually have been oppressed in this country and in many ways still are. We don't know whether or not NAACP would oppose groups fighting for legitimate white people's issues because that hasn't happened.
/r/MensRights30/03/18 07:13 PM
1

What women's rights do you think MRAs don't support?
/r/MensRights30/03/18 05:28 PM
1

What point?
/r/MensRights30/03/18 04:58 PM
1

We aren't anti-woman though. We aren't fighting against women's rights the way feminism fights against men's rights.
/r/MensRights30/03/18 02:42 PM
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if the two sides came together MRAs have always wanted that, and MRAs support women's rights. The reason the two sides aren't together is because feminists don't support men's rights.
/r/MensRights30/03/18 02:41 PM
3

Not the same. The NAACP doesn't claim to help white people, and they don't actively hurt white people. It's not like white victims of DV are turned away from shelters due to their race because of the NAACP.
/r/MensRights30/03/18 02:40 PM
10

When I saw the headline I expected it to be Phillip Davies again. Are there actually now multiple MPs who support men's rights?
/r/MensRights29/03/18 01:02 PM
1

A woman not fulfilling traditional gender roles would approach men and ask them out on dates instead of waiting for them to make the first move. She would have an even easier time dating then most women.
/r/MensRights29/03/18 12:56 PM
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Nobody objects to feminism being about women. We object to feminists like you who deny that misandry even exists and who tell us to shut up about our problems.
/r/MensRights29/03/18 03:43 AM
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Believe it or not, there are a lot of men who don't want to "stick their dong" in a self-proclaimed man-hater like yourself who believes that there's nothing wrong with police murdering somebody because of his gender. Instead of trolling about a topic you don't understand, why not try reading the sidebar? Or watching the documentary about MRAs?
/r/MensRights29/03/18 03:42 AM
1

but in general I think it's just as hard for women to maintain a toned body as it is a man. I'm NOT talking about attraction, just biology. I agree with that then. My point was just that there is much less pressure on women to have to maintain that physique, but if you're just talking about how difficult it is to maintain it then you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 07:48 PM
1

For reference, I work out 5-6x a week (both weightlifting and cardio) and if you were to look at me you would nottttt see that. No offense but how hard do you actually push yourself in the gym? I know women like this and they never push themselves the way men do. They lift weights, but they lift light weights and don't go to failure. Nor do they keep a strict bulking/cutting diet like guys do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 07:37 PM
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The point is the standards are different. Men are expected to be muscular and have low body fat, while women just have to not be fat. It's much easier to do the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 07:35 PM
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Makeup, good clothes, works out, has nice hair, soft skin ect ect ect. You overestimate how many men require all of those. Women who dress casually and don't wear makeup are still attractive to a lot of men. The only requirement for most men is to not be fat, which isn't hard to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 07:34 PM
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Yes. Women don't just have an easier time having sex they also have a much easier time dating in general. Women who are single are usually singly by choice (at least when she's young), which isn't the same as being lonely. In addition, men have different social relationships so they're more lonely even disregarding sex and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 07:31 PM
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It really doesn't exist. Women don't face the same pressures to be dominant and aggressive, and men have lower standards than women. A nice girl could still get on tinder and find a boyfriend without much effort.
/r/MensRights28/03/18 06:52 PM
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You should really add this to the sidebar somewhere.
/r/MensRights28/03/18 06:49 PM
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I had high hopes for MensLib until I actually looked at what the mods were saying. I know that a lot of the users there are good people so don't take it personally but the mods of menslib do not support men's equality and they created that sub to undermine MRAs more than anything else. They continue to defend a lot of problematic views of feminism and will only ever condemn the "extremists." They also claim MRAs are misogynists just because we rejected feminism, even though we tried working with…
/r/MensRights28/03/18 06:46 PM
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If men stick to traditional gender roles, it's sexual harassment or even rape. But if men treat women like equals, we aren't being romantic or assertive enough. If feminists actually cared about MeToo, they would work with MRAs to remove the pressures men face to always take the initiative. But they won't.
/r/MensRights28/03/18 03:14 PM
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/r/pussypassdeni- Nevermind she still got her pussypass.
/r/MensRights28/03/18 01:20 PM
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What are you even talking about? This is a dumb meme, are you saying that memes against fat women are illegal?
/r/MensRights28/03/18 01:08 PM
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One of the reasons for this traditionalist role is that being closer to the road puts you at greater risk of being hit by a car. The idea is that a real man should be willing to put his life at risk and always walk on that side.
/r/MensRights28/03/18 01:33 AM
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Uneasy Males by Edward Gambill is a must-read on the history of the MRM.
/r/MensRights27/03/18 11:10 PM
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Her views of MRAs are the same as Cassie Jaye's were before her movie. Don't drive her away.
/r/MensRights27/03/18 06:46 PM
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It doesn't. MRAs support women's rights, at least most of us do. The conflict between MRAs and feminists has never been about women's rights. The only thing we disagree about is men's rights. I guess what I'm asking is why not try and work with the feminist movement? We have, a lot. Did you really think we just became anti-feminist for no reason? The MRM was started by feminists and we've tried over and over to work with feminists. The feminists who do support us, like Cassie Jaye, stop being fe…
/r/MensRights27/03/18 06:44 PM
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but not a men's rights issue Yes it is. Shaming men for not adhering to sexist traditional gender roles is a men's rights issue.
/r/MensRights27/03/18 06:29 PM
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Criticizing the outdated view that men are supposed to shield women from the street, so he gets splashed with mud or hit by a car instead of her. It's a meme that pops up on social media by tradcon men wanting to prove how manly they are. A nice reminder that feminists aren't the only ones opposing us.
/r/MensRights27/03/18 05:55 PM
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Feminism isn't losing anything, it has already won. It's beginning to lose ground. MRAs are becoming mainstream and the general public is realizing that men have issues too. This means feminism is losing one of their biggest battles and people are rejecting their central belief that men have all of the privilege and only women are oppressed. Even Parliament is now discussing men's issues for International Men's Day, a day which feminists previously said we didn't need because "every day is Inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 09:29 PM
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Wasn't that just a social media campaign? That's how it started, and we were told to ignore it because it was just idiots on tumblr. Next thing you know, New York City is spending $76,000 to combat "manspreadinig"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 09:25 PM
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We needed the government to use force to get rid of slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 09:22 PM
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The tides are definitely turning. There have been a few polls/articles out recently that Trudeau is losing a lot of support, especially from male voters, and comments from male Canadian Liberals saying that it's because of his sexist stance on gender issues. That's one of the reasons Hillary lost too. The Red Pill was a very popular movie that dismantled feminism's claims about MRAs and men's issues. As somebody who's been an MRA for a decade I can tell you I've personally seen over the last cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 09:21 PM
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Yes, but you have to distinguish yourself from the mainstream feminists who oppose MRAs. Christina Hoff Sommers calls herself an equity feminist, and she's pretty popular with MRAs.
/r/MensRights23/03/18 02:15 PM
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Last I checked Kimmel was the spokesman for NOMAS, no idea how involved he is in running it anymore though.
/r/MensRights23/03/18 02:12 PM
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The headline from the article isn't quite accurate: Tennessee man wrongly jailed for 31 years finally becomes a millionaire He's not a millionaire. He received the maximum amount of $1,000,000. However, a third of that goes to the attorney and after that he's only getting monthly payments. He got compensation and cleared his name, but he's not a millionaire.
/r/MensRights22/03/18 10:34 PM
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He is the leader of the pro-feminist men's movement that r.menslib claims their subreddit is based on. This is the type of feminism they call us misogynists for opposing. He's also the founder of NOMAS, the male feminist group which says men can't be victims of DV
/r/MensRights22/03/18 08:44 PM
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Evo psych doesn't imply TRP methods though. This comes up a lot in debates between TRP and MRAs. MRAs want to get rid of traditional gender roles on both sides, so men no longer have the pressure of taking all of the initiative. TRP says that's impossible because of evo psych. So TRP does claim that evo psych rules out the MRA approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 06:41 PM
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TRP developed from the realization that, despite the narrative, most women don't actually want a man who ditches traditional gender roles and treats her like an equal. Feminists don't want anybody to acknowledge that, no matter how they address it. They complain about TRPers exploiting traditional gender roles to manipulate women, but feminists also oppose MRAs and egalitarians for trying to get rid of traditional gender roles. Feminists want to have their cake and eat it too. They want men to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 06:38 PM
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The same way Emma Watson is an attractive feminist Who also said that she's only attracted to bold, assertive men who take initiative and ask her out first. So if a tall muscular attractive male feminist adheres to traditional gender roles then feminists will be attracted to him. But a lot of male feminists make the mistake of thinking that female feminists actually want to be treated like equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 06:29 PM
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It's still an ignorant statement to make. Plenty of women want equality and we have female MRAs fighting for alimony reform.
/r/MensRights22/03/18 05:05 PM
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Women don't want equality. That's just a smokescreen they use while they are in the minority position. Did you even read the article? The judge is a man. And he specifically talked about men supporting their ex-wives for life. This is exactly what MRAs have been talking about for years but you and /u/furchfur spend so much time on the internet that you're just looking for an excuse to feel like everybody is out to get you, even somebody who is just parroting what anti-feminist MRAs have always s…
/r/MensRights22/03/18 04:39 PM
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Wasting their time on this They get college credit for it at some schools. Don't trust any wikipedia articles on gender, most of them have been hijacked by feminists to push an agenda. You'll notice a lot of them don't even have sources for most of their claims. /r/wikiinaction has documented a lot of bias on wikipedia.
/r/MensRights22/03/18 04:34 PM
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No need to be an ass about it. Your last comment specifically talked about banging "kids." 18 year olds are not kids so I assumed that was your point.
/r/MensRights22/03/18 01:43 PM
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Apparently it does happen: https://reason.com/blog/2018/02/08/22-year-old-woman-facing-sexual-assault 22-Year-Old Woman Facing Sexual Assault Charges for Relationship with 18-Year-Old Male Student Despite the fact that the age difference between the two is just three years, the relationship consensual—the victim initiated it, according to the arrest warrant—and neither party is a minor, this is considered a crime because Boncal held a position of authority at the school Obviously that's the how …
/r/MensRights21/03/18 09:50 PM
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They tried that. The Australian government thought that women were being discriminated against, so they made applications gender-blind to fight the discrimination. But then the results showed that it was actually men being discriminated against, so men were doing even better without sexism. They decided that this wasn't the equality they wanted so they got rid of gender-blind applications and went back to the sexist way. These people never care about equality or discrimination, they just want to…
/r/PussyPassDenied21/03/18 05:44 PM
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Wish you'd've used your green mod flair for this but otherwise I agree. Thanks for calling out the misogynists.
/r/MensRights21/03/18 01:58 AM
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how did you do that?
/r/MensRights20/03/18 04:32 PM
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that if you want to know how life is for men in general, imagine life for a black man, and make it 10-20% better. I've tried getting feminists to understand this, especially when it comes to the justice system. Black men are treated slightly worse than white men, but the gender gap is so much larger. If you treat black men the same as white men it will be an improvement but they'll still be treated unfairly.
/r/MensRights20/03/18 12:30 PM
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I noticed this with Donald Trump, and how the regressive left that loves to talk about intersectionality ignored it. E.g., Trump or /r/the_donald talk about illegal immigrants being rapists they mean male Mexicans. Or the "rapefugee" comments about how all (male) Muslim refugees are rapists. But the left only talked about it being anti-muslim/mexican and never talked about the intersectional sexism, because "intersectionality" only applies to women.
/r/MensRights20/03/18 12:28 PM
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Another male celebrity opening up about his battle with mental health.
/r/MensRights20/03/18 03:37 AM
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it just means that it should take other people’s experiences into account. That's what it should mean but instead it's used as a silencing tactic to shame men who try to talk about our issues. When feminists tell MRAs to "check our privilege" they aren't saying that we should take others experiences into account. They're telling us that we already have all of the privilege, so wanting a men's rights movement or to talk about men's issues is misogynistic.
/r/MensRights19/03/18 01:05 AM
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That's what I took from it too. He doesn't deserve that money, but neither would a mother. It's only when males demand it though that there's a problem.
/r/MensRights17/03/18 01:05 AM
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But the engineer might not even be to blame. There was supposed to be a tower with cables, but the bridge was opened before it was complete.
/r/MensRights17/03/18 01:02 AM
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From what I've read the bridge wasn't complete. The female engineer can't be blamed if they opened the bridge before they finished it.
/r/MensRights17/03/18 12:58 AM
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Thank you for this, you mods do good work
/r/MensRights17/03/18 12:57 AM
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It's also why anybody who claims to care about male victims of DV or rape has to also care about false accusations. This isn't uncommon at all, many female abusers use the threat of false accusations to keep their victims silent.
/r/MensRights16/03/18 05:35 PM
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There are a few feminists on here and on /r/femradebates that support actual equality, but that's it. The true feminists are a small minority.
/r/MensRights14/03/18 06:17 PM
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/u/LegalWeedAddict Ironic that the guy who supports legal weed is criticizing others for not supporting the party that wants to escalate the war on drugs..
/r/MensRights12/03/18 03:16 AM
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You shouldn't support either "side" since neither side supports men's rights. Democrats are more vocal about opposing men's rights in recent years, but how often have you seen Republicans stand up to them? Obama didn't support equality for men, but neither does Trump.
/r/MensRights12/03/18 03:13 AM
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Don't be a bigot just because feminists are, that makes you a hypocrite.
/r/MensRights12/03/18 03:08 AM
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mansplaining technically this is "manterrupting." And yes feminists made that a word too.
/r/MensRights12/03/18 02:07 AM
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I don't want to get too political, since the Democrats haven't done much to help homeless veterans either, but this does put into perspective how easy it would be to help America's 40,000 homeless veterans, yet somehow neither side actually wants to do it.
/r/MensRights11/03/18 08:16 PM
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That's true, but this isn't a men's rights issue. Go post about it on /r/HillaryForPrison.
/r/MensRights11/03/18 04:10 PM
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They should have quit the moment "all-women shortlists" became a thing.
/r/MensRights11/03/18 03:54 PM
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prostitution is legal, but buying sex is not. That's how feminists have solved the problem that /u/TheMeisterAce noted: Feminists claim they support women's liberation but have been anti-prostitution. So the solution is to make prostitution legal for women but still keep it illegal for men. Women are liberated, but men are not.
/r/MensRights11/03/18 03:31 AM
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I support full legalization. It's dumb for the government to control our bodies like that. I understand legal sex work probably shouldn't have the same priority It should have a larger priority than it does. The fact that men have to put more effort into pursuing women then vice versa is the root of most men's issues. Legalizing sex work would go a long way toward leveling the playing field and eliminating traditional gender roles.
/r/MensRights11/03/18 03:28 AM
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More use of force happens daily to white people So you're also too dumb to understand statistics. There are more white people than black people. After adjusting for population, it happens to blacks more than whites, and black males 100x more than white women. Some cops lose their shit and go overboard. But it's perfectly acceptable and we should never criticize it ever, because if we do then we're SJWs who hate white people.
/r/MensRights09/03/18 03:40 AM
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ignore crimes You're literally talking about ignoring jaywalking on an empty street. Something everybody does all the time. then they are expected not to use force They beat the shit out of a guy after they already had him on the ground and he wasn't fighting back. Yes you're expected not to do that. You wouldn't do it to a white woman so why is it okay just because it's a black male? FFS leave your alt-right bubble you fucking idiot.
/r/MensRights09/03/18 03:32 AM
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So every time a white woman runs from the police, they beat the shit out of her after they take her down?
/r/MensRights09/03/18 03:08 AM
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Other than completely ignoring several crimes committed right in front of them Jaywalking. The crime they stopped him for was jaywalking an empty street. You think they stop white women for crossing a street? what should these cops have done differently? How about not continually punching him in the head AFTER they already had him under control?
/r/MensRights09/03/18 03:07 AM
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Lots of men are killed by police in situations not deserving deadly force. Just because some shootings are justified doesn't mean some aren't.
/r/MensRights09/03/18 03:06 AM
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Well maybe in Mexico feminism is something different, but in the US, Canada, and most of Europe/Australia, feminism is an anti-equality movement especially at universities. both men's and women's societies To my point, there are no men's societies at most American colleges. Only women's societies. Feminists have repeatedly prevented men from forming our own groups on campus.
/r/MensRights09/03/18 02:42 AM
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Of course sometimes it's justified. But sometimes it's not. This guy ran but he didn't fight back. A lot of women run too, but the police don't repeatedly punch them in the head after they're already taken down and tased. want to blame cops I blame society. I've already said that the cops are just doing what society does: Using violence against men when they wouldn't do it against women. You're telling me you've never seen a woman put herself in a situation that would get a man knocked out, but …
/r/MensRights09/03/18 02:25 AM
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from women Stop buying the strawman that MRAs blame women for everything. That's another difference between MRAs and feminists. Feminists blame men for everything, but MRAs don't blame women.
/r/MensRights09/03/18 02:07 AM
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No. Feminists support women's rights while also fighting AGAINST men's rights. MRAs support men's rights but do NOT oppose women's equality. MRAs and feminists don't fight over women's equality, we only disagree over whether or not men also deserve equality.
/r/MensRights09/03/18 02:06 AM
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more incidents of police violence in cited year 2015 vs white men. Because white people are 70% of the population. Per capita it's still black men more likely to be victims, but white men are more likely to be victims than black women because gender is the biggest factor. And you don’t see cops clubbing women because it is objectively more difficult to defend against an IA investigation of clubbing a 130lb woman to unconsciousness vs a 180lb man Whether the police are sexist or IA is sexist does…
/r/MensRights09/03/18 01:44 AM
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Nobody says it happens to all nonwhite men. It's not about getting their jollies off, it's that police are more likely to be violent toward men, especially nonwhite men. Not any different from society either, both men and women are more likely to use violence against men than against women. That doesn't mean that all men get beaten or that no women do, just that statistically violence is more acceptable against men than women.
/r/MensRights09/03/18 01:29 AM
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Same thing happens to women. Rarely. I don't know what the stats are for brutality, but specifically cops killing people is almost all male. Other cop problems, like stop and frisk, are also almost all against men.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 09:55 PM
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those places are devoted to criticise feminism because that's the only way it's going to improve Many colleges and universities forbid both criticism of feminism and discussion of men's rights. One of the men's rights issues at the moment is at Ryerson University, where students are trying to create a Men's Issues Awareness Society. The feminist student union keeps blocking it because they believe that only feminists should have a platform to talk about gender issues, and that men's issues don't…
/r/MensRights08/03/18 09:10 PM
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Still, to point out the flaws of feminism is not men's rights. Not always. But when those "flaws" are causing harm to men then yes it is. And should take place in feminist places. But all feminist spaces have banned criticism of feminism so...
/r/MensRights08/03/18 07:53 PM
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The paper you showed me didn't seem at all problematic. You think that we need a IWD to address women's issues, but that men's issues are so trivial we don't need an IMD? That was his point. we actually have International Men’s Day the other 364 days of the year. Here in the US, February is Black History Month. Do we need a separate White History Month – or don’t the other 11 months suffice? I don't agree with that at all. I disagree with a lot of points that a lot of feminists make, including a…
/r/MensRights08/03/18 07:32 PM
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Definitely. It's a shame these conversations always focus exclusively on race and ignore gender. Race is a problem but it's always men of any color being treated this way, even if it does happen slightly more to black males.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 07:19 PM
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Here people think about Tumblr activists and pink hair dye. No, we think of the feminist Canadian government being praised by feminist groups for a "feminist" foreign policy plan which gives almost all foreign aid to women and girls. I understand that from the outside people get annoyed with MRAs always talking about feminism, but trust me we really do have a reason and you should keep an open mind. Because the feminists we oppose are literally running governments, not just tumblr bloggers.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 06:50 PM
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'its really not the most extreme examples in MRA communities though'. I could say there are lots of moderate Men's Rights activists who believe there's no need for an International Women's Day just like you said the same for moderate feminists You won't find many examples of MRAs who say we should have an IMD but not an IWD. There's an MRA below saying we shouldn't have either, but that's still egalitarian. And you certainly won't find MRAs that think countries like Canada should focus almost al…
/r/MensRights08/03/18 06:17 PM
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feminism is not just what legbeards on tumblr say it is. We don't just criticize "legbeards" (which is honestly a misogynistic term and shouldn't be used FYI... I'm surprised I have to be the one to say that). We also criticize academic feminists, feminist organizations, etc. Moderate feminist views, including the view that women deserve an International Women's Day but men don't deserve an International Men's Day, are what this sub criticizes. What about when Canada said that 95% of foreign aid…
/r/MensRights08/03/18 06:02 PM
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Bunch of pussies who cant even fight for themselves and their beliefs. One of my beliefs is that calling people "pussies" is counterproductive and against what MRAs stand for. I'll fight it by downvoting you.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 06:01 PM
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Wait, you're saying that raising thousands of dollars to fund a documentary about an important men's issues doesn't count because it doesn't have a fucking flair??? Anti-MRAs never stop grasping at straws do you?
/r/MensRights08/03/18 05:59 PM
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No, but even the most "toxic" of MRAs don't come close to that. I've never seen a #killallwomen hashtag from any MRA.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 05:56 PM
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but to use the most extreme examples found in feminism It's really not "the most extreme examples" though. You should make a separate post on /r/mensright on why MRAs are against feminism if you want, because there are a lot of moderates who oppose us. Including moderate feminists who believe that there's no need for an International Men's Day. Canada's feminist prime minister introduced an unapologetically feminist foreign aid policy which gives 95% of foreign aid to women and girls. How can we…
/r/MensRights08/03/18 05:54 PM
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You mean like Professor Michael Kimmel? Yes, I'm familiar with academic feminism. Myself and other MRAs didn't start opposing feminism because of some extremist tumblr SJWs, we oppose feminism because of academic feminism, feminist organizations, and other examples of mainstream feminism.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 05:51 PM
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and this is one of the most intense issues men face today. Who said that? faggots that chug each others seed on this useless cunt subreddit At least I'll have grandchildren, something tells me you won't be reproducing.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 03:52 PM
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Some people view IWD as a day for equality to complement IMD. That's what this post is about. However, many other people who are sexist celebrate IWD as a way to push the narrative that ONLY women have issues and ONLY women matter. That's what that post was about.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 03:49 PM
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Anti-feminist is not anti-woman. If you can't understand why people who support equality generally oppose feminism then that's because you haven't learned enough about feminism.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 03:46 PM
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You guys cant have a normal discussion about anything without bringing up how much you hate feminism. Because we can't have a normal discussion about men's issues without feminists telling us that men's issues don't exist. Your comment is especially ironic on a thread about IWD, given that most feminists have told MRAs that an International Men's Day is the same as a white history month.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 03:46 PM
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What is your comment even supposed to show? What's ac.reddit.com? If you're looking for activism this post is stickied right now, and this subreddit also recently raised funds for CAFE to open Toronto's first shelter for male victims of DV. Is that not activism?
/r/MensRights08/03/18 03:44 PM
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“We don’t hate women, just misandry.” How is that cognitive dissonance? It is possible to not hate men while also not hating women. “My mom isn’t a feminist and cares about the rights of her son. Those are the type of women I want to celebrate today.” Again what exactly is your problem here? You object to this sub recognizing that many women reject the anti-male rhetoric of feminism and support equality? Are you suggesting that all women hate men, and complaining because this subreddit doesn't b…
/r/MensRights08/03/18 03:42 PM
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"Hi mom. You know how I got involved in men's issues after getting out of an abusive relationship, and that I now consider it really important that society recognize that men can also be victims of DV? I apologize for that. /u/HagbardCelineHere convinced me that men actually can't be abused so I'm sorry for thinking otherwise." My mom is not a feminist, she wouldn't accept that apology. She's been very supportive. Your own mother might be a misandrist, but believe it or not there are a lot of wo…
/r/MensRights08/03/18 03:40 PM
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Which is all MRAs have ever wanted.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 03:38 PM
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Like if r/womensrights had a "Congratulations International Mens day! See, we aren't anti-men!" Except most feminists keep saying that we don't need an International Men's Day because we already have all of the privilege, and that's one of the reasons we do say that they're anti-men.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 03:36 PM
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So wanting one of the world's largest companies to support gender equality is "whining"?
/r/MensRights08/03/18 02:52 PM
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Where have I whined about women? Where have MRAs in general whined about women? We "whine" about sexism. Are you saying that all women are sexist? Are you saying no men are sexist? MRAs aren't saying either of those.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 02:52 PM
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IWD is also used around the world to raise awareness of legitimate women's issues.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 02:38 PM
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we don't hate women just advocates for misandry FTFY. Ironic that on a post about IWD you try to tell me feminism is about equality, when MRAs have to listen to feminists tell us that we don't need an IMD.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 02:34 PM
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The current sticky is about funding a documentary on circumcision The top post of the past week is about father's committing suicide obsessing over female rapists We don't "obsess" over them it only seems that way because MRAs are the only ones who talk about them at all, so compared to the complete silence from everybody else it seems like "obsession"
/r/MensRights08/03/18 02:34 PM
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then at least you're not a sexist hypocrite. I for one don't mind people opposing IMD as long as they also oppose IWD, though I support both.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 02:31 PM
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Most MRAs haven't given up on beating sexists so we don't need to join them yet.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 02:29 PM
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You may not be seeing feminists celebrating men's day but there are a lot of women who aren't feminists that celebrate it. We have female MRAs you know.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 02:28 PM
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Not all women are feminists you know. This day isn't just about them. And who cares if misandrists say men's rights don't matter and we shouldn't have a day? That doesn't mean we should respond with misogyny.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 02:26 PM
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It's taken seriously by the people who take gender equality seriously. As we successfully convert more people to egalitarianism, more people will take us seriously. The one's writing articles like that are the same ones saying that we don't need an International Men's Day because every day is international men's day.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 02:24 PM
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Even if they have the right to do it it's still sexist. Google makes a Google Doodle every year for IWD but refuses to ever acknowledge IMD. And MRAs have emailed them about it so it's not an oversight. Google is a private entity that has the "right" to be sexist, but it's still sexism.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 02:22 PM
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This. There are misogynists here, I know because I've argued with them. A few weeks ago I was arguing with somebody who literally didn't think women should vote. But those people are a small minority and as you said they are usually downvoted.
/r/MensRights08/03/18 02:20 PM
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It's specifically for unsheltered homeless though, as opposed to homeless who stay at shelters.
/r/MensRights07/03/18 07:10 PM
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and a couple I can't remember at the moment. The CAFE AMA for their DV shelter, we raised a lot of money for that. I remember the before/after numbers on the kickstarter and they raised several thousand dollars within a day of their AMA, and met their goal within a few days of the AMA. And I know we also had a lot of other posts about that shelter before which I assume also raised money.
/r/MensRights07/03/18 06:53 PM
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Society. Men and women.
/r/MensRights07/03/18 02:11 PM
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Here's his full statement on his panic attacks
/r/MensRights07/03/18 01:57 AM
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Most probably this rule affects any gender saying bad things about any gender. Same rule for everyone. That's exactly the thinking that causes these people to hate MRAs. We support equality and want men and women to have the same rules, but these people don't.
/r/MensRights06/03/18 09:24 PM
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I was surprised to see this on NYMag, but then reading the article they're complaining and saying that sexism against men should be acceptable. I don't think Facebook should be banning people for saying mean things, but as long as they're going to do it for sexism against women at least they keep it equal.
/r/MensRights06/03/18 09:23 PM
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"if you stop supporting male victims of rape" they'll unban you. Wow, real classy r.rape. And people wonder why MRAs don't like feminists. You're literally banning anybody who thinks all victims of rape deserve support, regardless of gender, from a subreddit supposedly about rape support. And of course they link to menslib in their sidebar, in case anybody here needed any more proof of how little that shithole actually cares about men. There are a lot of low points for feminism but even by their…
/r/MensRights06/03/18 09:11 PM
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And yet, she feels the need to extend a formal invitation to men That "formal invitation to men" was to support the anti-male HeForShe campaign... we were being invited to support misandry
/r/MensRights06/03/18 03:42 AM
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Where is the rational left? /leftypol/ seems to be the only place left that's rejected SJWs. I don't know if you can consider 8chan "rational" though.
/r/MensRights05/03/18 02:37 PM
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Marc Angelucci is the VP of the National Coalition for Men (NCFM) and is the attorney who has handled many of their lawsuits. Notably, he successfully sued California to get male victims of DV access to tax funded DV shelters (which previously only accepted female victims). He would definitely be a good resource.
/r/MensRights05/03/18 03:29 AM
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Are you the attorney handling this?? Thank you! You should do an AMA on /r/iama, it would help get you a lot more publicity. You should also make a post to /r/NYC, that would help you find other men to add to the class action. And I hope you've already reached out to NCFM, Angelucci mostly works in Cali but I'm sure he could help you.
/r/MensRights05/03/18 02:15 AM
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it's a different story. He's right that it's not "rape" but it is still abusive and wrong.
/r/MensRights05/03/18 01:51 AM
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I'm a left winger too, and while I still agree with the left on most non-gender issues I can't deny that the modern left is run by misandrists.
/r/MensRights05/03/18 01:42 AM
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I found the book if you're still interested. https://www.amazon.com/Uneasy-Males-American-Movement-1970-2000/dp/0595373208
/r/MensRights03/03/18 04:24 PM
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The article says that the court found that denying them status wasn't a violation of their free speech. What I don't understand is that there's nothing about sexism or gender discrimination from the court. I don't know if Canada has anything like Title IX, but if Ryerson is allowing a group for women's issues while denying a group for men's issues shouldn't that be gender discrimination? Yet it looks like the court only dealt with it as a free speech issue and never addressed the fact that Ryers…
/r/MensRights02/03/18 10:41 PM
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IIRC the media even did accuse him of "mansplaining" during the primaries. I'm usually a Democrat but the sexist way that Bernie was treated made me not vote for Hillary.
/r/MensRights02/03/18 02:27 AM
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just the fact that so many men feel the need to learn hookup techniques just to get laid Because a lot of them go beyond that and the sub has a lot of actual misogynists. It might not be all of them but there are a lot on /r/TRP who want women back in the kitchen and think that men should rule the world. It's not just about hookup techniques.
/r/MensRights01/03/18 03:59 AM
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Some anti-feminists are anti-woman, but that doesn't mean being anti-feminist is automatically anti-women. Misognists are anti-feminist but so are egalitarians. This sub is the latter, and you can't accuse us of being anti-women just because we support gender equality (and are therefore anti-feminist)
/r/MensRights28/02/18 02:14 AM
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Yeah, a lot of the time it feels like it turns to anti-women more than men’s rights. No it doesn't. Anti-feminism is not anti-woman.
/r/MensRights27/02/18 11:50 PM
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80% of women don't consider themselves feminists.
/r/MensRights27/02/18 11:45 PM
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but if you just follow the rules interestingly enough you won’t go to jail regardless If you're a woman. Men can still be falsely imprisoned even if they never did anything wrong.
/r/MensRights27/02/18 11:45 PM
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Q4All: Does it surprise you that women care more about n-count than men? Why do you think this disparity exists? It surprises me that more women care specifically about it being too high than men. I know a lot of women care about it being too low also. Q4All: Why do you think men are becoming more sexually dominant? Are they, or are men just realizing that they have to give the answers that women want to hear? Most women would put anything other than "I take control" as a high-importance unaccep…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 07:25 PM
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That's why I unsubbed from this place years ago. There's simply too many tradcons pretending to care about men when what they actually want for men to live up to their gender roles and happily queue up for the slaughterhouse again. This place is a joke. There are a lot of tradcons who don't care about men's rights, and this sub has problems, but I wouldn't write the whole place off. This post is 90% upvoted after all.
/r/MensRights26/02/18 07:40 PM
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Don't leave, we need more adults like you to counter the children like OP. Please stay and help keep this subreddit an actual men's rights sub.
/r/MensRights25/02/18 12:09 AM
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And don't take it too seriously Yeah you're right. DV, rape, discrimination... none of that is serious, this should just be a subreddit for 14 year olds like you to shitpost about how you wish you were with hot blonde girls!
/r/MensRights25/02/18 12:08 AM
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We shouldn't strive for feminist goals You're right, we should strive for MRA goals. Ie, getting rid of traditional gender roles and sexist double standards.
/r/MensRights24/02/18 01:37 PM
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ok tough guy. But you don't belong here, on a subreddit that supports equal rights and responsibilities, something that you're obviously against.
/r/MensRights24/02/18 02:09 AM
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Yeah no that's YOUR cause Right. The men's rights cause. IE what this entire subreddit is based on. If you think men are disposable because women's lives are worth more than men's then find another group.
/r/MensRights24/02/18 01:55 AM
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I'm not going to side with either. I think SJWs are worse because they have more power than guys like this though.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 03:10 PM
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We could gather more support for our cause if outsiders saw us as tough fuckers standing tall against post-modern bullshit, as opposed to selfish little whiners. But then it wouldn't be our cause anymore. Our cause is that it's okay if a man doesn't want to be tough enough to sacrifice his life tackling a shooter. If you think forcing all men to be macho alpha males is "our cause" then you're in the wrong movement.
/r/MensRights23/02/18 02:16 PM
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Is a guy a jerk if he dates a woman that is looking to start a family when he has no intention of settling down? It depends on the age Situation women in her early 30s That sounds like a jerk. Guy says he wants to put it off till later he isn’t ready etc. eventually she is too old to start a family or only gets to have one kid. Definitely a jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 11:35 PM
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I'm not a fan of Elam, but how is AVFM any worse than Jezebel, EverydayFeminism, or any other feminist site?
/r/MensRights22/02/18 03:34 AM
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Roosh V hates MRAs and we hate him back.
/r/MensRights22/02/18 03:21 AM
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Not in opposition with a movement that opposes men You seriously need to learn about the MRM and feminism if you don't understand why MRAs haven't gotten along with feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 01:10 AM
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Go read some Warren Farrell and tell me that feminists only hate him because he's a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 01:09 AM
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MRAs are not the same as Red Pillers, please don't conflate us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 01:08 AM
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Misogyny is so unacceptable that trying to fight misandry will literally be labelled as misogyny, because wanting to fight misandry is less acceptable than actual misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 12:59 AM
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The Red Pill (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLzeakKC6fE), a documentary about MRAs, has some history in it. I've seen other MRAs post a history book on the history of the MRM before but I can't remember it, I'll try to find it later. The MRM was started by feminists in the 70s who wanted equality for both men and women and wanted to get rid of traditional gender roles on both sides. Warren Farrell, the most famous MRA, used to be on the board of directors for NOW, the largest feminist organiza…
/r/MensRights21/02/18 07:28 PM
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Discussions about gun control, taxes etc don't belong here because this is a men's rights subreddit, not a general politics subreddit. By affirmative action do you mean discriminating against men because of their sex? Obviously that's not going to be popular here. But you'll find a lot of liberals who also believe that companies should not discriminate against people. /r/mensrights supports issues like ending the war on drugs and supporting the homeless, which aren't conservative. We've also cri…
/r/MensRights21/02/18 07:25 PM
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The subreddit was started to lie about MRAs, and they recruited from anti-male subs like AMR and SRS. I went there early on and the mods were telling people that the men's rights movement began as an anti-feminist backlash by men who wanted their male privilege back. That's false and we can back that up with sources from the 70s showing how the MRM actually began and who early MRAs were; menslib never has any sources for their claims. MensLib is also based on the pro-feminist men's movement, whi…
/r/MensRights21/02/18 03:16 PM
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No it's not and no it isn't. It's a mix. You won't find a liberal circle-jerk where we defend Obama's anti-due process policies or praising Hillary for wanting female criminals to get lighter sentences, but that doesn't mean we're automatically pro-Trump or conservative.
/r/MensRights21/02/18 03:12 PM
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There's an overlap. There's also an overlap between anti-Trump supporters and here. On the whole this isn't a pro-trump sub.
/r/MensRights21/02/18 03:11 PM
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What are you talking about? Plenty of MRAs (including myself) hate Trump. There was a lot of brigading from /r/the_donald during the election but those weren't MRAs, and aside from that you can't say /r/mensrights is pro-Trump by any means.
/r/MensRights21/02/18 04:36 AM
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I want the right to not be assaulted equally. Why do you think I don't deserve that right?
/r/MensRights21/02/18 12:12 AM
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Nice, gender-shame me because I don't want to be assaulted. DAE "real men" aren't afraid of being assaulted??? And your edit is the entire point of this complaint, that we should be against assaulting people not just women
/r/MensRights20/02/18 08:46 PM
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Hopefully both MensLib and Men's Rights will eventually grow and mature enough so that they can support each other. How are we supposed to "grow up" and support a sub created for the purpose of opposing us? From day 1 menslib was telling lies about our movement and calling us misogynists for supporting equality, all while defending misandry. I know you didn't mean to be but it's condescending for you to reduce our valid objections to menslib to us just needing to "grow up." We do and always have…
/r/MensRights20/02/18 08:43 PM
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but we can still assault men though, thanks
/r/MensRights20/02/18 06:31 PM
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I don't always like /r/mensrights so I went to menslib when it started out thinking it could be a better alternative for MRAs. Instead I got feminists calling me a misogynist because I've been supporting equality (and specifically support for male victims of DV) for around 10 years now. Menslib says that mainstream feminism has always been good and that MRAs are racist and sexist for ever criticizing it. They keep telling their users that there is a history of a feminist men's movement fighting …
/r/MensRights20/02/18 06:28 PM
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Feminism is female superiority movement Nobody is arguing against that. This is about whether actual equality (egalitarians and the men's rights movement) is a "female superiority movement." This troll literally thinks that if women aren't at home in the kitchen then we have female supremacy. Telling MRAs that feminism isn't about equality isn't controversial. Telling us that our own movement is a female supremacy movement means you're a troll.
/r/MensRights20/02/18 03:28 PM
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Normally I'd agree but there's no point in arguing with a troll who's telling us that MRAs are the same as female supremacists.
/r/MensRights20/02/18 03:27 PM
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What argument? You're starting off with a false premise that equality is female supremacism and began by lying about egalitarians. You're an idiot who's not worth "arguing" with because you don't have an argument. Bye, troll.
/r/MensRights19/02/18 07:29 PM
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Jesus christ you're a fucking idiot, I looked through your history and it's just bitter ranting where you long for the good old days where women couldn't leave the kitchen and only men were allowed to vote. Why would the MRM support a system of female supremacy? lol fuck right off, you're not going to convince MRAs that anything less than ending women's suffrage is "female supremacy" so stop trying.
/r/MensRights19/02/18 07:13 PM
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you totally forget (or ignore) equal RESPONSIBILITIES lol you're as dumb as any feminist when it comes to strawmanning. Egalitarianism is all about equal responsibilities too, you're talking out of your ass. Egalitarians complain about the draft or men being the bread winners all the time. Warren Farrell has written books about the inequality in responsibilities. Based on your comments you sound like somebody who actually is just bitter that women don't stay in the kitchen anymore. You'd be bett…
/r/MensRights19/02/18 07:04 PM
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I know, I don't like Milo much either but he makes a very good point here. And it's interesting how the same people on my social media blaming males for this shooting are the same ones saying that we don't need to talk about male suicide or address the way society treats boys because of male privilege. Maybe if they didn't keep shutting down MRAs when we try to address the root causes of this we wouldn't have so many males killing themselves (and others)
/r/MensRights16/02/18 04:53 AM
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the MRM is largely internet-based We were forced to the internet since it's the only place we can be anonymous and uncensored. MRAs have been working on these issues since the 70s but with how much opposition we had from feminists it was hard to gain ground before the internet. Even now, most men here wouldn't publicly support gender equality because they know how much hatred from feminists they'd get.
/r/MensRights16/02/18 04:47 AM
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No commensurate movement for men who are still generally locked into the same rigid, outdated model of masculinity There is a movement. The Men's Rights Movement. The only difference is we've dealt with so much smear and censorship that we've only barely begun making progress in recent years as feminism has started to lose power.
/r/MensRights16/02/18 04:39 AM
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That's amazing, congratulations!!! I don't have time to give a lot of feedback now, but for starters I would say definitely host a viewing of The Red Pill for the group. You also need to actively work to make sure the group is in good hands after you graduate. Obviously you don't want it to fall to feminists who just want to use the group as another way to dismiss men's issues, but you also don't want somebody who's lazy and will let the group die. Start grooming a successor now, and have them h…
/r/MensRights16/02/18 04:03 AM
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No you haven't, and if a man asked a woman that it wouldn't be considered asking her out so you're still supporting the sexist double standard that men have to be more assertive than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/18 03:53 AM
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It's possible. But very rare. A man can't just smile and say hi to a woman and get asked out. 99% of the time, the man has to take the actual initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 01:17 AM
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Calling MRAs "faggots" and "cucks" sure doesn't help your cause here. That's the fastest way to let us know you don't belong here and don't care about our cause. And he's not speaking for men's rights, he's speaking for white conservative men's rights. The central park 5 had their due process, were proven innocent, and Trump still thinks they're guilty. Trump doesn't support due process for Bill Clinton or other Democrats accused of sex crimes.
/r/MensRights14/02/18 07:41 PM
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/r/theredpill is hated more than us, what's your point? Should we support them too? Should we have supported the racist hate subs before they were banned?
/r/MensRights14/02/18 07:38 PM
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It's because he's not sincere and doesn't actually support due process. He wants due process for himself. He and his supporters call Bill Clinton a rapist and assume Democrats accused of harassment are guilty. The Central Park 5 were actually proven innocent, and Trump still says they are guilty. /r/the_donald also brigaded this sub a lot during the election so MRAs are wary of pro-Trump articles. I'm not saying that's what OP is doing and a lot of MRAs do support Trump, but some of us remember …
/r/MensRights14/02/18 07:28 PM
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I don't have a link or anything but I remember during the election when Trump criticized Elizabeth Warren for lying about her native american heritage, Google's autocomplete removed search resultes for "Elizabeth Warren Native American." Google does change their search results to push a narrative and given their feminist support it wouldn't surprise me if they are changing their results to be anti-MRA.
/r/MensRights14/02/18 01:53 AM
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If a man made those same moves would that be enough initiative? Would the woman ask him out on a date after those small moves?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 03:35 AM
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Why would you care about a parody of the women's march? Why not try having a serious march for men's issues? joker at heart Grow up and learn to have adult conversations about men's issues
/r/MensRights13/02/18 03:33 AM
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IANAL and don't know how the constitution works. I doubt she has a constitutional right to it. BUT, if the age of consent is 16, then why should it be illegal? That goes for either sex.
/r/MensRights13/02/18 02:50 AM
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Right. So in your experience women are sexistly expecting men to man up and take the initiative, and shy women have it easier than shy men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 04:33 AM
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PS Rather than behaving like pink haired feminists by anonymously downvoting me, why not try to tell me why I'm wrong? Because you're not an MRA, you don't know anything about our movement, and you're a 14 year old idiot who just calls people "pink haired feminists" instead of realizing that you have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/MensRights11/02/18 05:59 AM
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Karen Straughen's point at the end of The Red Pill applies here, that feminists fought to make "fireman" gender neutral but then use gendered language to attack men. FWIW I want firefighter to be gender neutral too, but feminists are wrong for using gender to attack men
/r/MensRights11/02/18 03:49 AM
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feminists using "mansplaining" to deal with being proven wrong I didn't get "mansplaining" but I was recently told that I had to listen to certain women's personal experiences regarding whether or not women are in more physical danger in public than men (stats show men are more likely to be victims of violence in public). Stats didn't matter at all, just women's own experiences that they claimed they were in more danger than men.
/r/MensRights11/02/18 03:46 AM
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your fuckup Are you saying male rape victims fucked up by not preventing themselves from being raped? Victims of spermjacking fucked up?
/r/MensRights10/02/18 10:12 PM
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Don't call it financial or paper "abortion." Call it "legal parental surrender" and stop comparing it to abortion.
/r/MensRights10/02/18 10:11 PM
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Women who aren't shy or timid still only date men that make the first move. And since this thread is about who has it easier, shy and timid men exist too and they're basically fucked when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 02:33 AM
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but you have the choice of who you actually initiate with So do women. And if she can stop being sexist long enough to take that initiative she has a better chance of being successful than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/18 02:07 AM
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Because who has it easier after 30 is irrelevant. Women don't need to have it easy after 30 because if she wanted to be married she could have chosen to do that in her 20s. If she's >30 and married it doesn't matter how easy it would be to find a new partner, and if she's still single then that was her decision and now she has to live with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 03:14 PM
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What guarantee do men have that we get anything close to a top pick? If she wants her top pick she can stop being sexist and ask her top pick out on a date. But if she wants traditional gender roles because she cares more about testing her potential partners to make sure he's dominant and assertive then that's her decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 03:12 PM
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Nobody is talking about what "ought to be." For the record yes, I do think women "ought" to treat men like equals and stop imposing traditional gender roles on men. But that's not the point I was making, it was that women are free to choose who they actually want but women know that it's easier to make men do the work instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/18 12:33 AM
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Women can choose too. Women can approach men, women can ask men out on dates. Women don't want to do that because they want men to have to do the hard work, but they could if they wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:09 PM
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If a woman is single after 30 it's usually because she was too picky in her 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:08 PM
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I know enough to know that women have it way easier than men do. You know that too, but you refuse to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:46 AM
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by 5% it's a lot more than that and no we don't want a trophy we just want misandrists to check your female privilege. At least admit how easy you have it, that's all we want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:42 AM
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The only way a woman can be "bottom barrel" is if she's obese. Not even chubby, she has to be obese or even morbidly obese. And that's such an easy problem to fix I can't say she actually has it bad. Incels can't just eat healthy to get a loving wife the way that fat girls can lose weight and find a husband. Any woman who doesn't want to be obese has it easier than incels and usually even easier than average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:39 AM
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ugly does ugly mean fat? Being fat is a choice that's easy to fix. average Any average woman can get an LTR no problem if her standards are remotely reasonable. Have you ever talked to an average woman? She's only single because she rejects 99% of the men she comes across.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:32 AM
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So they risk an abortion? That's a lot less of a consequence than 18 years of income.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:29 AM
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By and large they are also rejecting men for LTRs, much more than men reject women. So there's still a discrepancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:28 AM
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it’s different and presents different challenges And the difference is that it's easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:28 AM
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In NON online dating men and women should have a comparable time In non-online dating, do women approach men as often as men approach women? Do women ask men out on dates as often as men ask women out? Women still have it easier IRL, at least under-30.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:26 AM
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We talk to women too. All of them tell me that dating is so hard for them and then contradict that by letting me know how fucking easy they have it. Average women are rejecting men left and right but still think they have a hard time dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:26 AM
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women do have more options but most of them are trash And the men's options are great? Women have better options than men do, but women's standards are also so high that they view above-average women as "trash"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 03:25 AM
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Yes. The MRM is full of ex-feminists (including Warren Farrell) and we just had a positive documentary released by an ex-feminist. Constantly bitching about "feminazis" isn't going to help anybody except make people on this sub feel better about themselves. Criticize feminism when you need to but we should be focused on convincing more feminists to change their minds about men's issues.
/r/MensRights03/02/18 03:43 AM
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I'd invite you to actually look into men's issues rather than make assumptions. There's a great documentary about men's rights that was made by a feminist, and you should also read the list of men's issues in the sidebar. Men have a lot of issues that you evidently aren't aware of, and in fact men's issues have a lot of overlap with racial issues. For example did you know that the justice system treats men even worse than black people?. This movement isn't about men upset that we're "losing our …
/r/MensRights01/02/18 03:56 AM
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That's not what you're doing. You're idolizing Hitler and trying to deport all minorities, even ones who have been in your country legally for generations. You're advocating for the mistreatment of other races and the belief that those races are inferior. Stop trying to sugarcoat it as "white people advocating for our ethnic interests" when you're a literal neo-nazi.
/r/MensRights31/01/18 04:44 PM
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LMAO at you thinking being a literaly neo-nazi going full 1488 is just "ethnic advocacy" You're in the wrong sub. I know SJWs tell people that MRAs are all a bunch of Nazis but you're not going to find much support here. So just fuck off to voat or wherever.
/r/MensRights31/01/18 04:40 PM
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You literally have 1488 in your name... For those wondering, 1488 is used by neonazis. The 14 is about white nationalism and the 88 = HH = Heil Hitler. /u/Fort_Lauderdale1488 is a neo-nazi trying to tell us that /r/whiterights was a good community.
/r/MensRights31/01/18 04:35 PM
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Every time something bad happens For the younger MRAs, this includes them calling Elliot Rodger (mass killer) of being an MRA. He wasn't, but facts didn't matter. Something bad happened so it must have been an MRA. More recently, the edit of the new Star Wars where they took out some of the women was blamed on MRAs, again without evidence.
/r/MensRights31/01/18 01:38 AM
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IIRC the only people accused by MRAs were fictional characters and the admins in charge. The whole point was to draw attention to how dumb an anonymous accusation form is.
/r/MensRights31/01/18 01:37 AM
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"controversial" doesn't mean "wrong." Giving women the right to vote was controversial once upon a time. /r/mensrights and the MRM are controversial. That said, feminists have brigaded wikipedia hard (women's studies departments have given college credit to feminists who edit articles). So any article on gender issues from wikipedia is suspect.
/r/MensRights31/01/18 01:36 AM
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Can you quote me where he said the DNC is so much better? Or are you just making things up because you care more about Trump than you do about men's rights
/r/MensRights29/01/18 03:44 AM
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It's interesting how the votes on the comments ITT have changed. Early on when mostly MRAs were voting, people who support gender equality were upvoted while the people who were strawmanning or pushing the anti-MRA alpha male bullshit were downvoted. Now it's reversed... almost as if non-MRAs are brigading this thread hours later.
/r/MensRights29/01/18 03:43 AM
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Let me guess -- you are not an MRA?
/r/MensRights29/01/18 03:41 AM
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but not because we want women in the 'kitchen' but because feminism is discriminatory I know that. But my problem is people complaining about feminism even when it has nothing to do with men's rights. If you make a post about feminists opposing help for male victims of DV or opposing fathers I'll upvote it. But a lot of posts are just anti-feminist even without being about men's rights, and the mods allow it. It's attracted a lot of people who do want women back in the kitchen, and other alt-rig…
/r/MensRights29/01/18 02:55 AM
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Extremely dishonest places that pray on naive people who don't know any better. I frequently have conversations with the people who spam menslib all over reddit and it's amazing how little they know about even basic men's issues or basic facts about feminism. It's a feel-good place for people who just want to say "I support equality" and nothing more. None of them have any involvement in helping men and they haven't even bothered to learn anything about men's issues. I have a lot of problems wit…
/r/MensRights28/01/18 11:02 PM
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This. People who support true equality are usually anti-feminist, but that doesn't mean every anti-feminist is supporting equality or supports MRAs.
/r/MensRights28/01/18 06:26 PM
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Trump has united feminism and made feminism more popular than it's been in years. And a lot of his views, like expanding the war on drugs or believing the Central Park Five are guilty even after they've been cleared, go against everything the MRM is fighting for.
/r/MensRights28/01/18 06:08 PM
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You really think everybody who isn't a feminist is good? There are a lot of terrible people out there that aren't feminists. This is /r/mensrights not /r/anti-feminism, and anybody who actually cared about men's rights wouldn't be dumb enough to think that every anti-feminist is automatically on our side.
/r/MensRights28/01/18 06:02 PM
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Soyboy? Really? Wow you really convinced me you're committed getting rid of gender-shaming like a true MRA! Reading your other comments in this thread you should just go back to /pol/ if you're this triggered by people calling your "God Emperor" a jackass. Grow up and let the adults talk.
/r/MensRights28/01/18 05:59 PM
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WEF publishes gender equality reports every year or so ranking countries by equality. The rankings only take into account women's rights, and any area where women outrank men is considered equality. This is nothing new, WEF already said that if 100% of college grads are women or if women outlive men by 50 years it's "equality"
/r/MensRights27/01/18 03:56 AM
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this is actual sexism. Why is this a /r/mensrights issue?
/r/MensRights27/01/18 03:40 AM
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MRAs think that all rape is bad. Men raping women is bad, women raping men is bad, men raping men and women raping women is all bad. That's the difference. Feminists and MRAs both agree that what happened to you was wrong, but only MRAs think that it would also be wrong with the genders reversed. I myself am a male victim of DV who became an anti-feminist MRA once I learned that MRAs are the only people who think all domestic violence is wrong no matter what gender. Thank you for your support an…
/r/MensRights19/01/18 03:34 AM
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Wondering if you guys agree with the fan-edit or what you think of it? I think it's stupid. I think the guy who made it was trolling instead of trying to make a political point. What do you think of the movie in general from a MRA perspective? I don't care one way or the other because there are more important things going on, but I do think it was meant to push a political message about strong females and toxic masculinity. I see feminists supporting it for those same reasons.
/r/MensRights17/01/18 02:28 PM
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14 day old account You're a troll, and a bad one. Leave.
/r/MensRights16/01/18 04:40 AM
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You're being downvoted because you're an obvious troll. Fuck off and never come back.
/r/MensRights16/01/18 04:30 AM
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Archive The author claims that "MRAs" edited out the female characters of the recent Star Wars movie. They don't have any proof of this but just trust them! My favorite part is: instead of addressing actual issues like the rates of suicide and depression among men – they focus on dumb shit like editing out all the parts of The Last Jedi that aren’t centred around men. Nevermind that this subreddit just raised thousands of dollars to fund a shelter for abused men or that we just had a popular doc…
/r/MensRights16/01/18 03:15 AM
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That should be the case but unfortunately his career could take a big hit over this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 02:51 AM
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The patriarchal misogynistic police would just tell her that it's her fault for consenting ^/s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 02:48 AM
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Shockingly there isn't even a dispute over the facts. She says that it was consensual but since she regretted it it's sexual assault. He agreed that it was consensual but apologized and said that he still supports #Metoo
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 02:44 AM
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2nd and 3rd wave also believed that consensual sex = rape if the woman regrets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 02:37 AM
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Your story involves a woman acting like a child and a movement claiming that she should be treated like a child. It doesn't involve any men acting like predatory criminals though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 02:27 AM
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Those are the most extreme feminists those are also the normal average feminists, and most importantly those are the feminists in charge of policy. A college student doesn't care about your hypothetical friends when the actual feminists in charge of expelling him (or under Obama forcing the college to expel him) believe that all men are rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 02:24 AM
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Some women are abusing the attention media is giving them right now I just wanna say thanx for the emphasis on some. Not all or even most women are like this and some people on this sub want to blame all women for something like this.
/r/MensRights16/01/18 02:06 AM
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And if my partner agreed to suck my dick without being forced to then I would think it was consensual. At worst he was sleezy but not predatory and it wasn't sexual assault.
/r/MensRights16/01/18 02:04 AM
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I think the takeaway is that women are children who can't take responsibility for their actions. That's what feminism is telling me.
/r/MensRights16/01/18 02:03 AM
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This is like the Harvey Weinstein accusers who were all claiming they "suddenly found themselves" in his room. Don't compare this to Weinstein. That actually was abuse. When your gross old boss invites you up to his room to discuss your job it's reasonable to think it wasn't about sex. He also blackballed women who said no so they didn't have a choice unless they ruined their career. This woman consensually gave a blowjob to a man without any threat to her career, it's nothing like Weinstein.
/r/MensRights16/01/18 02:00 AM
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That doesn't mean they deserve to be raped though. /u/Monteburger is right, this would be abused by rapists. Do you wring your hands in anxiety over the fact that such lists theoretically make those on them more susceptible to false accusations? yes and I think we should get rid of those lists too
/r/MensRights16/01/18 01:38 AM
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Instead of putting false accusers on a sex offender registry we should get rid of the sex offender registry.
/r/MensRights16/01/18 01:34 AM
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which is literally what happened here. She consented at the time and then the next day changed her mind.
/r/MensRights16/01/18 01:15 AM
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That's one example. There's no pattern of that though. Where are the conservatives fighting for male victims of DV? Even the Republicans who opposed VAWA never said they opposed it because it was sexist. Is Trump going to reverse the Obama view that women who force men to have sex aren't rapists? Is Trump going to create a White House Council for Men and Boys? Conservative forums like /r/the_donald are full of traditionalists who want us to "man up" and stop being "cucks" And don't forget this i…
/r/MensRights13/01/18 04:30 PM
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This. You don't see Trump fighting to get support for male DV victims or anything. Conservatives might not go out of their way to oppose MRAs the way liberals do but neither side is supporting us.
/r/MensRights13/01/18 03:05 AM
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The number of women who creepshame socially awkward men is a lot higher than the ones who have actually been stalked. Changing it to "Any woman to use it against more than one man" would make it almost always apply to creepshaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:48 AM
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boring FFS do you have any idea how many women are boring? Should women face social ostracization and be banned from clubs/parties because they're "boring"? non-complimentary It's more than "non-complimentary," feminists have decided that being a creep is basically the same as being a rapist. Guys get kicked out of bars because women call him "creepy." If he's boring, call him boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:46 AM
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A. Unless she literally screams it, very few people will hear it over the music. Most women don't say it to the man's face, they say it about him behind his back after he's gone. If it's a random club then who cares, but if it's a party where she's telling people that know him then it's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 02:43 AM
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But those women also rejected countless men who would have gone down on her, because having a partner who goes down on her isn't actually important. Instead she likely went for a more dominant man, and a lot of those men don't like to go down as much. It was her decision though, if she wanted to date a man who would go down on her she had plenty of other options.
/r/MensRights07/01/18 01:32 AM
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Source on what? Evertything I said is just common knowledge. Women who want to date a man that goes down on her and cares about her orgasm do. The only women who aren't with a man like that are the ones that don't care about it, since it would be easy for them to find a guy like that if they did care. So there is no "orgasm gap" except one that women choose.
/r/MensRights06/01/18 11:51 PM
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to be fair he never said his wife wasn't fat /s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 04:24 AM
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There are straight men who love to go down on women and who care about their partners orgasm more than their own. Most women reject those men for dominant aggressive men instead. The 'orgasm gap' is entirely due to women's own choices. The only women whose partners don't give them a regular orgasm are ones who don't actually want it. This is more manufactured outrage trying to portray women's own decisions as misogyny.
/r/MensRights06/01/18 04:14 AM
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but high standards for relationships Higher than our standards for sex, but still much lower than women's standards for relationships. That's why even for relationships men are asking women out and women are rejecting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 02:05 AM
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in the UK Literally the only country that does that. No other country, including the US, dares to even try prosecuting these women because of how much political control feminists have. For whatever reason, feminism is weaker in the UK than other countries (see Philip Davies). In other countries there can be video proof that an encounter was consensual and she still will face zero punishment. And even in the UK punishment is rare, there have been cases where the woman only gets prosecuted after f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 01:57 AM
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#MeToo includes everybody from actual rape victims to women who were asked out on a date by a 5'8" man. It reminds me of a few years ago when that NYC street harassment video went viral and feminists were up in arms over... men saying hello to women in public? I'm sure a lot of the MeToo women are actual victims, but even if you get beyond false accusations a lot of them are just playing the victim when it was a minor occurrence that most men would just get over if it happened to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 01:55 AM
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I am fine with being wrong You are wrong. If you think it's a PPD thing then talk to men you know IRL. You'll find a lot of men don't like the sexist gender roles that women impose on us in dating, and would prefer it if women approached men, asked us out, and took more initiative. And that's not just for sex, it's for relationships in general. If you're talking about communication outside of wanting to date somebody, then that's not what OP is talking about since flirting is sex/dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 01:49 AM
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and she was the worst spokesperson feminism could ever hope for. So just like every other Women's Studies major?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 12:12 AM
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get an education But that's the difference between men and women. She doesn't need an education. She can be a waitress or work at Wal-Mart and still hop online dating and get a quality husband with ease. Men can't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 02:20 AM
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No one's rights are being removed by employers refusing to hire women. It's literally against the law you idiot. You have a right not to be discriminated against in the workplace. And while refusing to interact with any women in any way doesn't violate their rights, it does mean you have serious mental health issues and are letting your irrational paranoia control your life. Normal, well-adjusted people don't completely avoid half the human population like that.
/r/MensRights29/12/17 02:18 AM
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In Canada and elsewhere, men's rights has been without political support from either side, and many politicians have even been outright anti-male. Do you see this changing? Are there any politicians that have been supportive of CAFE or your efforts to create a men's shelter? Do you think in the near future we'll see at least one political party support men's rights the way that LGBT rights, women's rights, etc. have political support?
/r/MensRights28/12/17 05:12 PM
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It's very rare to find a fat girl above a 4/10. And if a woman is fat in her 20s she will likely get a lot worse as she gets older. Sorry, but most men would rather be single than date a fat girl and it has nothing to do with social pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 02:01 PM
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You need to grow up and get friends because you have serious mental health issues. You probably won't do that, so keep on being a bitter, lonely piece of shit. And if somebody is acting like a feminist, it would be the bitter sexist asshole who wants to punish all men women because of what some men women do, while hypocritically being against that exact same sexism when it goes the other way.
/r/MensRights28/12/17 01:45 PM
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the pickings are slim for women to attract top tier men. Only because her standards of "top tier" are unreasonable. She can attract handsome, funny middle class men if she goes out to meet them or goes online. Unless she works at a gym and can get a free membership or is incredibly picky about what she eats, most poor women are going to be less attractive than their richer counterparts who can afford cosmetics, surgery, better quality food or gym contracts. That's just not true. Eating healthy a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 01:43 PM
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I believe it would be zero. I'm a male who was in an abusive relationship and i have female friends/relatives who support me. Most women aren't feminists. There are a lot of great women out there.
/r/MensRights28/12/17 03:13 AM
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The biggest irony was the feminist website Gawker (who owned Jezebel) losing the lawsuit for leaking Hulk Hogans sex tape, while at the same time writing articles about the privacy of female celebrities who had sex tapes leaked.
/r/MensRights28/12/17 02:47 AM
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I think you're reading too much into this. The sarcasm comment could be genuine, as there are people who sarcastically dismiss men's issues like suicide. Remember when Jess Phillips laughed at wanting to discuss male suicide in Parliament? Somebody like her could say "I love men's rights!" sarcastically in response to wanting to help address male suicide. and then went out of their way to disavow any connection to mens rights. It's sad that MRAs have such a bad reputation, but even groups like C…
/r/MensRights28/12/17 02:41 AM
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How is it a strawman? You said that it's okay to punish all women because a few abuse sexual harassment laws, but it's not okay to punish all men for murder, rape, sexual harassment, etc. or a giant troll I thought you were a troll at first, but now I'm sure you're just an anti-social, friendless loser who uses misogyny to compensate for the fact that you don't have a life. Grow up.
/r/MensRights28/12/17 02:25 AM
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chicks like Paris Hilton and Beyonce don't age a day because they can afford not to When women are in their 20s, being attractive doesn't take any money. And after she's past 30, she's only single if she chose to be. And middle-aged women won't be as attractive as they were when they were younger, but if she put in work when she was younger (working out, eating healthy) then she won't be ugly either. has 2 kids Don't be a single parent then. Nobody forced it on her. Women, unlike men, have repro…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 02:15 AM
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Let's imagine a scenario where women decide that the socio-economic status of a man has no correlation with women choosing that man as a mate. For example, the garbage man is equally as likely to find a mate as a CEO/athlete/movie star. My opinion is that the patriarchy would dissolve instantly in that circumstance. I agree with you in general that the patriarchy is the result of women's sexual preferences, and that women are the ones enforcing it. I want to add that it's more than going for hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 02:11 AM
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So wrongful behavior is only bad if it's in the very narrow range of "continually abusing laws intended to protect them to harm their jobs"? Murder, rape, robbery, sexual harassment are all fine and dandy and don't need to be punished? Your stupidity and pathetic, paranoid anti-social attitudes are hiding your misogyny. Get off reddit and go talk to people in the real world because holy shit your mentality is not healthy or normal by any measure. Do you actually have any friends? Or do you just …
/r/MensRights28/12/17 02:07 AM
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So again, if feminists say that all companies should refuse to hire men because SOME men sexually harass women, you would be okay with that? As a man who has a job and doesn't want to be homeless just because of my sex, fuck off.
/r/MensRights28/12/17 01:59 AM
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You're a sad, pathetic loser who needs therapy more than anything else.
/r/MensRights28/12/17 01:58 AM
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Refusing to hire any women at all no matter how qualified just because of their sex as a way to punish women as a group is more than "not trying to help." Not to mention illegal. And "never talk to any women ever" is also pathetically anti-social and indicates serious mental issues, seek help. And who cares which is worse when both are sexist and wrong? If feminists say we should fine all men instead of jailing them would that be okay? If feminists say that all men should not be hired by any com…
/r/MensRights28/12/17 01:53 AM
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They who? All women punish us? Do you have a source on that? And what about my other comment, do you think it's fair to punish all men for rape or murder? If you want to punish me for a crime I didn't commit just because I'm a man, you're anti-MRA and should fuck off. If you don't, you're a sexist hypocrite and should also fuck off. Also Fight bigotry with bigotry, I say! Literally how we got modern feminism to begin with.
/r/MensRights28/12/17 01:48 AM
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There was an article by a radical SJW a few years ago saying that we should throw all men in jail for rape, so that men will start policing our own. You and /u/DagonNaxos are now on the same level of a tumblr SJW. How can you justify opposing bigotry like that from feminists but think it's okay with the genders reversed? That's simple hypocrisy.
/r/MensRights28/12/17 01:34 AM
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So punish all women because a few feminists took things too far? I understand that companies will be more cautious hiring women because of the fear of false allegations now but you're just being dumb.
/r/MensRights28/12/17 01:17 AM
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Outside of this sub, I haven't seen much of a link between MRAs and the alt-right / Trump. On here I know we got brigaded by a lot of them during the election but it's died down now.
/r/MensRights21/12/17 02:10 PM
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This. I hate traditionalists as much as feminists. The only reason I focus on feminists more is because lately they've been the ones in charge. If traditionalists had the influence that feminists do and were passing the laws like feminists than I would be more vocal about them.
/r/MensRights21/12/17 02:08 PM
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You can say that domestic abuse against men is under-reported or you can ask yourself why men find it particularly difficult to report. I can do both, and either one requires me to be an anti-feminist and therefore labelled a misogynist. And we find it difficult because feminists keep spreading the myth that men aren't victims
/r/MensRights21/12/17 02:05 PM
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taboo truth what makes you so sure that's the truth? What about the multitude of studies that found much lower numbers? We don't know what the actual number is and it's probably somewhere in the middle. Don't just automatically believe the studies that confirm your beliefs and ignore the ones that go against it.
/r/MensRights21/12/17 01:55 PM
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This! All accusers deserve to be taken seriously, but they shouldn't be automatically believed.
/r/MensRights21/12/17 01:51 PM
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I was just trying to think of something for the winter. In the summer you can do softball or something like that, most cities have rec leagues where you can meet people. Or go to bars. I don't want to meet people online well that's going to be a problem, especially if you aren't in college or have an active social life. Any reason why you don't want to meet people online?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 01:38 AM
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Are you fat? If you're not fat then it's very easy for women to find a husband. Join a social group like a bowling league or meetup group. Get tinder or online dating. Go to bars. Dating for women is easy until you get to your late-20s. If you want a husband, get a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:54 PM
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If you wait until 40 to find a partner then you fucked up. If you married when you were 25 then your husband will be fine with you having a few wrinkles when your 40, as long as you didn't become a landwhale. And expensive clothes don't matter at all, men only buy those for women because you want to have expensive clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:39 AM
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Not being fat is not expensive This. Men aren't very shallow and most of us just want a woman who isn't fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:37 AM
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That explains it. I assumed it would be something like that, I've seen other feminists make excuses for female killers with the same reasoning.
/r/MensRights10/12/17 12:11 AM
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A male atheist asked a female atheist for a drink. It blew up and feminists decided that meant atheism was full of misogynists, so they started Atheism+ to push feminism in atheism. It didn't work since most atheists are men and they weren't going to put up with misandrist bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 12:05 AM
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social skills Do you take initiative in relationships? Did you ask him out on the first date or did he have to do it since he's the man? Did he initiate the first kiss/sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 03:52 AM
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sometimes especially they consider it brigading when the opinions you comment go against their own opinions. If the admins agree with your opinions they think brigading is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 03:45 AM
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but I have qualities he lacks too Which ones? Ones traditionally associated with dominance? Do you date shorter, weaker men who make less money than you? Do you even date men of equal height, equal strength who make equal money?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 03:20 AM
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How is it "narrow"? And if we're talking about relationships then shouldn't the view on relationships be relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 03:18 AM
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The fact that I have never met a single woman who dates men that treat her as an equal? No woman I've met asks men out on dates regularly. All of them think that men should have to ask her out. None of them take as much initiative as she wants men to take. If a man treats women as an equal, most women consider that a deal-breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 03:18 AM
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They weren't. Who were the hunters? And haven't studies shown that prehistoric women only mated with a minority of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 03:15 AM
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There is a diff between organically developing relationship feelings from spending time with someone at work Is there? When just asking a female coworker out on a date is considered sexual harassment where's the line? Even outside of work some women will cry harassment. Do you remember elevatorgate? A man asked a feminist woman out for drinks, and since she didn't find him attractive feminists started a whole campaign against male atheists. There's no winning. If a man truly avoids sexual harass…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 03:09 AM
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The same behavior that women demand from a tall attractive man is sexual harassment if a short ugly man did it. Feminists aren't against men acting a certain way, they hate it when men are short and ugly. If feminists wanted to get rid of "sexual harasment" they would ask men out on dates and take initiative so men didn't have to take all the initiative (which is then called sexual harassment if the woman isn't attracted to the man). But feminists don't do that Some men cross the line. But most …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 03:03 AM
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They used to. Now it's pretty common for women to split the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:08 AM
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I think masculinity, depending on the topic at hand, has societal influences, (phrases like “don’t cry, man up,” and anything similar. The belief that a "real man" is assertive and always takes initiative would fall under that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:59 AM
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sexbots and/or decriminalization of prostitution will move us that way. Once men would rather be single than let women keep their privilege, we'll see more women be willing to see men as equals. We've already made a lot of progress with paying for dates, it wasn't long ago when women would rather be single than split the bill on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:56 AM
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I might make one when I have the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:53 AM
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Being rejected constantly. Men have to take the risk of rejection in approaching women, starting a conversation, asking her out, making the first move, etc. Beyond that, initiating most of the conversations and planning the dates. Women know that it's hard work, otherwise you wouldn't refuse to do even a fraction of what men do. Most women would rather be single than do a tenth of the work that men do in getting relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:52 AM
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This is where the "most women see men as invisible" comes from. Those same women are rejecting 99.9% of men, but since those men are invisible they only think that ugly men with bad hygiene and no social skills get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:42 AM
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If a guy says, “I like a woman who can cook and clean” do not respond by saying, “No, you want a live-in servant.” If that guy then claims that they want an egalitarian relationship can I point out that being treated like an equal and wanting your partner to stay in the kitchen, even if doesn't want to, is not equality?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:41 AM
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What strawman am I creating? Here is what they've said: I will never date a man who treats me like an equal but I do enjoy dating men who treat me as an equal that's an obvious contradiction and I took an educated guess at which one of those was a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:40 AM
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It’s not oppressive to observe You're not "observing" anything, you are expecting men to adhere to those sexist gender roles even though you know many men would prefer to be treated like equals. And to be honest, I think a lot of women couldn’t care less if you said you would only marry/date a woman who stayed in the kitchen because they would know to stay away from you. And what if 99% of men said that? What if it was almost impossible for a woman to marry a man that didn't expect her to stay i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:39 AM
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I've already noticed a lot of fat girls starting to ask men out. As more men become comfortable being single and as more men complain about how sexist women are being, we'll start to see more women reluctantly support gender equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 01:41 PM
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It means you won't do any work in the early stages that it takes to get to an LTR. Some women become more egalitarian after a few months, but to get there she doesn't do anything and expects the man to do all of the hard work to make the relationship happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 01:38 PM
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I didn't mean it literally never happens ever, but obviously it's extremely rare because most women, including feminists, hate gender equality. How many of your female friends asked their husbands out on the first date? You also don't even explain what you meant by "first move," that can mean a lot of things so I still don't know if he asked you out first or if you expected him to take most of the initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 01:36 PM
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If women are expecting men to adhere to stereotypical male behavior then that is sexist. It would be sexist for me to say women belong in the kitchen and I won't date a woman who wants a career, so how is this different? Imposing sexist gender roles on somebody is sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 01:32 PM
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I believe that women as a whole enjoy dating men who treat them as people of equal worth. No they don't and you don't either. You want to date men who treat you as more valuable than themselves. Equal worth means you have to put as much effort into it as he does. But you see men as less valuable than yourself, so you expect them to take the initiative in order to make up for his lack of worth. You're a princess wanting to be doted on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 01:31 PM
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I am now, but I struggled with women for a long time because I made the mistake of believing that women wanted to be treated like equals (and some other different issues I had with women)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 04:16 AM
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Women only dating men who don't treat them as equals is not sexist We do have different definitions of the word. To me, sexist is expecting a man to act a certain way just because he's a man, and holding women to lower expectations because women shouldn't have to do hard work. That's what you're doing when you say men should have to take initiative because women shouldn't have to do any work in a relationship. Women don't want to date a man who treats her like an equal, and I think that's sexist…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 04:14 AM
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I don't expect it. But I used to expect it and think that women would do it sometimes, because I listened to the feminist women who told me women like equality. Eventually I realized that even feminists never ask men out on dates, and so now I don't expect women to ever date a man who treats her like an equal no matter how much she says that's what she wants. I know that women like sexism. I know that a man not being sexist is a dealbreaker for most women, even if they would never admit it. I kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 04:05 AM
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I don't think that women are necessarily attracted to "sexist features". You don't think women are attracted to men who make the first move? Are more assertive than women? Take initiative? Feminism has programmed women to think that sexism against men isn't real so you don't even realize how sexist it is to always expect men to make the first move and ask women out. Ask the women you know how many men they've asked on dates. Most women will only date men that follow traditional sexist gender rol…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 04:01 AM
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But will they be honest? I just had a conversation with a female friend who said that she doesn't care much about looks. Her boyfriend is chubby with average genetics, except he's 6'3". Since I've known her she's always dated men at least several inches taller than her, but she says she doesn't care about looks. She also says it's really important for a man to respect her as an equal, even though she's never asked a man out and expects men to do that. Even when women describe the men they're wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 03:53 AM
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Height? That's very important to a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 03:49 AM
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Any feminist who complains about the wage gap. A woman who chooses to work fewer hours and chooses a major that doesn't earn money isn't responsible for her actions. And feminism's stance on criminal punishment. Most of them seem just fine with women getting away with crimes, and most feminists even call you a misogynist if you think women should have the same treatment as male criminals. Abuse and rape too, feminists think female rapists and abusers should get away with it and call you a misogy…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 03:43 AM
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They are two sides of the same coin. Feminism is against traditional gender roles that benefit men but supports traditional gender roles that benefit women. Red Pill is against traditional gender roles that benefit women but supports traditional gender roles that benefit men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 03:38 AM
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Not everybody has a fat fetish like you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 04:01 AM
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I remember one of the OKCupid links that was posted here showed a hot guy still getting half as many messages as an average woman. Not a hot woman, an average one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 03:54 AM
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I keep talking to women about dating especially online dating and it's obvious that most women have no idea what it's like for men. Most men have a good idea of what dating is like for women, but women really don't understand the male side. Women think it's a little worse for men but that we're just too picky or really ugly/boring if we aren't successful online. Women just don't seem to grasp that unless a guy is tall and attractive with a good personality and willing to date fat chicks, he's fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 03:52 AM
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Have you talked to the mods there about it? I've posted on /r/purplepilldebate and they don't usually censor people. They're a lot more forgiving than /r/femradebates which regularly censors both anti- and pro-feminist views (though they are very transparent and never shadowban).
/r/MensRights25/11/17 03:25 PM
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Do you see TRP and the manosphere in general becoming more extreme in their conservatism, or more diluted with liberal values? I'm not TRP but I am an MRA so I guess I'm part of the manosphere. MRAs used to be liberal, but have trended conservative recently because of how feminism has taken over the left. Obama was a feminist, Hillary was a feminist, the Democrats in general are feminists. If you want to help male victims of rape or DV, or you think that the justice system shouldn't discriminate…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 03:02 AM
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They have a page for you to email them about google doodles (email is at the bottom). I will be emailing them to criticize their decision to acknowledge IWD but not IMD and other MRAs should do the same.
/r/MensRights20/11/17 12:35 AM
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There was a thread on /r/mensrights for this a few days ago and I know MRAs have emailed Google about this in the past too. Obviously Google doesn't listen since it's a generally pro-feminist company, but we'll keep pushing. In the last few years we've started to see a few feminists actually support IMD after opposing it for so long, so maybe soon Google can get on board too.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/11/17 04:15 PM
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Masculism or Masculinism FYI those are very different movements. "Masculism" is another name for the Men's Rights Movement (like /r/mensrights), whereas neo-masculinism refers to /r/TheRedPill types.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/11/17 04:11 PM
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It's called the men's rights movement. "Meninism" is a parody of feminism and has never been serious. /r/mensrights for more.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/11/17 04:10 PM
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I don't know about gene editing, but I do think sexbots will start to level the playing field. Men will be less willing to settle and women will have to do more to compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:01 PM
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There is ongoing arms race and TRP are the guys that are handing out recipes for Molotov cocktails and blueprints for manufacturing AK 47s Nice analogy, and I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 04:56 PM
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My problem with TRP is that it seeks to help individual men at the expense of all other men. Traditional gender roles are bad for men and we need to focus on getting rid of those traditionalist views, instead of teaching men to take advantage of them. In your example, long before TRP came along women still had very high standards and men still had to compete against each other. This has been exacerbated by online dating, so especially today even without TRP men would still be getting the short e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 03:50 PM
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most women are meeting their spouses in their youth, dating for a while, then getting married later. This has been changing drastically in recent years, women are far less likely to be married by 30 than previous generations. I don't think it's the "cock carousel", but in the modern age women have too many options and they can't decide which of the 100s of potential husbands they want to settle down with. The women who wait too long inevitably end up settling for a man that's below what she coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:07 AM
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Online dating is part of real life. Real women can meet real men there. The gender imbalance is worse online, but it doesn't go away in the real world. Women still have higher standards than men, women still demand that men take all of the initiative, women still have a relatively easy time finding a boyfriend. It's not as extreme as it is online but it's still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 03:54 AM
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It depends on what you consider "rape". IIRC, the "date rape used to be exciting" comment that got Warren Farrell in so much trouble was talking about many women admitting that they put up token resistance while wanting the man to keep pushing even after she said no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 03:37 AM
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That's been my experience too. It pisses me off how many feminists like to blame the patriarchy or male privilege or whatever, and act like it's oppressing women for men to be dominant. Some men like to be dominant, but not nearly as many as there are women wanting to be dominated. Women are pressuring men to dominate them, not the other way around. And that goes for more than sex, the non-sexual parts of most of my relationships I was expected to be in charge and take the initiative too. The id…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 03:34 AM
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So those groups that feminists told us we didn't need literally saved a man's life? Who could have predicted this?
/r/MensRights10/11/17 01:27 AM
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This is HUGE! MRAs have made a lot of progress but I didn't think we'd see academics turning against feminism like this already. Thanks for posting this OP!
/r/MensRights09/11/17 03:08 AM
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That's what I'm most worried about. Hopefully the users here keep an eye out and call out anybody trying to push incels here. That sub was very toxic, I saw people actually saying it was okay to rape women.
/r/MensRights08/11/17 04:21 AM
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Ignore the other guy. Thanks for posting this, I don't care what you call yourself as long as you support all victims of abuse regardless of gender.
/r/MensRights21/10/17 11:23 PM
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An MRA film is screening at a "social justice" film festival? That should be interesting.
/r/MensRights17/10/17 02:26 AM
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No, MRAs actually do research. There are plenty of mainstream feminist leaders who are anti-male and feminist organizations have been opposing men's rights for decades. It's not the same at all, in fact feminists like the OP are an extreme rarity.
/r/MensRights12/10/17 01:50 AM
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As an MRA I always appreciate finding a feminist who actually supports men. If you're interested in other pro-equality feminists you should look into Christina Hoff Sommers and Cathy Young
/r/MensRights12/10/17 01:48 AM
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FTA: Crews says he almost lashed out at the man, but stopped himself once he realized how it would be portrayed: “240 lbs. Black Man stomps out Hollywood Honcho.” Only I probably wouldn’t have been able to read it because I WOULD HAVE BEEN IN JAIL. So we left.
/r/MensRights11/10/17 03:14 AM
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That's a good point. 10 years ago we'd be the only ones talking about this and everybody else would be ignoring it.
/r/MensRights11/10/17 03:09 AM
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Wow! A week ago he talked about how he left the NFL because of the abusive environment there (not sexually abusive but a coach broke his finger) and now this. Its great he's spoken up so people can see that physical differences don't mean anything. I was in an abusive relationship for a couple of years with a girl much smaller than me, but most people still think that's impossible. I know a man who was raped by a woman half his size, but people think that's impossible and claim men can only be r…
/r/MensRights11/10/17 03:04 AM
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Right? How do you look at a father changing a diaper and think it's perverted?
/r/MensRights10/10/17 01:44 PM
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horseshoe theory is strong with the reactions to this.
/r/MensRights10/10/17 01:31 PM
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The Canadian Association For Equality put up a billboard citing government statistics on DV. Feminists complained that the billboard was misogynistic.
/r/MensRights04/10/17 02:05 PM
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The Mask You Live In Is that a reference to the anti-male film with Michael Kimmel? Is that their Facebook page?
/r/MensRights04/10/17 12:34 AM
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How is expecting the worst from a movement which has done nothing but lie about us and fight against us misogynistic?
/r/MensRights28/09/17 12:56 AM
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Embracing men's rights is the gender equality movement. You're the ones pushing back against equality. What anti-equality positions do MRAs have?
/r/MensRights26/09/17 01:22 AM
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Can we get a flair for "rape / DV"? It's one of the more common issues for MRAs, and we already even have a flair for false accusations so it would make sense to have one for male victims. /u/mensmod /u/theothermod
/r/MensRights21/09/17 12:23 AM
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It is for all mothers who were reduced to half-time or less with their children whether there was overt abuse or not So they don't care about whether or not the father was abusive. The mother should be the only parent who gets to see the children because raising kids is the mother's job. These are the same feminists who claim that it's the patriarchy keeping fathers from being involved with their children.
/r/MensRights16/09/17 01:26 PM
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This is new. I like it! Maybe rework the formatting for the links though, they just run together the way it is now. Add better spacing or put them in a list or something.
/r/MensRights12/09/17 01:43 AM
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Do you have facebook? I know a lot of women who call themselves feminists on there. And do you actually ask women how often they ask men out? I do because I like exposing feminists for their hypocrisy. They complain about sexist gender roles but then if you ask them admit that they only date traditional men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 02:31 AM
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Multiple times? Probably. It's very rare for a woman to ask a man out on an actual date. Where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 02:24 AM
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You don't talk to very many women then
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 02:24 AM
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I know because they tell me they are feminist. I don't know if they would have dated me but I do know they have never asked a man out, despite knowing men that they wanted to date
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 02:12 AM
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Women get sex handed to them purely for existing and not being obese. a lot of effort not being obese is not a lot of effort. socializing creating a tinder profile and waiting for men to message you is also not a lot of effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 02:10 AM
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OP is about how feminism doesn't want to get rid of traditional gender roles. How is the fact that feminists only date men that accept traditional gender roles not relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 01:55 AM
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I think every feminist I know would never ask a man out on a date. Feminists love traditional gender roles and would hate to have to date if men and women had equal roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 01:51 AM
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Feminism is patriarchy in lipstick is a popular quote among MRAs. Feminism depends on chivalry and white knighting. The movement needs the traditional gender roles of the patriarchy to survive. Without patriarchy, we would see male victims of DV get the same support as women, fathers getting as much rights to their children as fathers, women being expected to ask men out on dates, etc. All things that feminism is against.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 01:44 AM
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But you don't see ugly guys rejecting average girls. You do see ugly girls rejecting average guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 05:04 AM
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abortions which fuck them up for life more than paying child support fucks a man up?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 05:03 AM
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Because those women are obsessing over wanting a perfect man. Women are more prone to think they deserve the very best, while men are more prone to settle for somebody reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 05:02 AM
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Average men don't say "i'm too good for an average woman" as often as women say that about average men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 05:00 AM
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But in practice women obviously do. How many men think so highly of themselves that they believe they deserve the top 0.1% of women? And how many women do? I don't know any men who reject almost every single woman they know, but plenty of women who reject 99.9% of men. If you reject anybody who isn't perfect, you have high self esteem. If you're willing to settle for half the female population, you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 04:59 AM
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Men have lower standards than women by a wide margin. If men had higher self esteem, why would they settle for much less than women are willing to? Most men have low enough self esteem to settle for an average woman who gives less to the relationship than they do. Most women have such high self esteem that she demands an above-average man who takes all of the initiative and does all of the work in the relationship. Most women would never lower their standards as much as most men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 04:55 AM
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The fact that men understand this about women, but women don't understand this about men, is really what this entire sub is about. I've never met a single woman who understood this about sufficiently adequate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 04:50 AM
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not sure I agree with you there every non-fat woman you know who isn't in a relationship has rejected countless men that meet the standards most men would settle for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 04:49 AM
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you can trust me on that one. The last guy I had this conversation with was a lean, 6'1" man who was more assertive than any woman I know and was dating a chubby 5/10 woman. Maybe you're right, or maybe you're like everybody else in society and put women on a pedestal while holding men to higher standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 04:47 AM
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But non-fat women are hot stuff, again proving our point. A woman just needs to not eat junk food all the time and she's hot stuff, but the standards women have for men are a lot higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 04:45 AM
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And in real life men have reasonable standards while women will only date men who rank above them on objective measures. Your argument is "women aren't hypergamous because women are hypergamous."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 04:44 AM
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if she won't date the guy, she isn't her equal, end of story. Because the average woman is not the "equal" of the average man. A 5/10 woman is not the equal of a 8/10 man. But that's the problem, women are not equal to men, which is why women are hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 04:43 AM
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but when a hottie comes a long they wanna commit? That happens so fucking much What hottie is committing to a man who is less assertive than her? Shorter than her? Earns less than her? Has a more boring personality than her? It rarely happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 04:41 AM
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In My experience I've observed that women 'Sex up' and 'Date down' No you haven't. In your experience you judge men more harshly than you judge women. You see a woman with a bland personality, average looks and in average shape date a man who's more assertive, works harder for the relationship, earns more money, and is 6" taller but still say she's "date down" because you hold men to higher standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 04:39 AM
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No. Men will marry women who are less educated, earn less, are less attractive, have less outgoing personalities, are less assertive. Women usually will not. You can name exceptions but usually men are willing to marry down while women won't even marry their equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 04:35 AM
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Most women want traditionalist men. Society tells people what feminists want them to, and feminists don't want to admit that women hate it when men treat them like equals. Feminists can't admit that women want a man who takes charge and is dominant, so society won't tell men that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 02:36 AM
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No, for monogamous relationships the standards are still skewed in favor of women by a lot. Women who aren't obese can get a boyfriend very easily, but for most men it takes work and a lot of rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:21 AM
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They do but they aren't writing articles about it or running Presidential campaigns on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 03:26 AM
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We realize tradcon men are white knights, but for younger men we mostly see it from feminist men, since tradcon white knights are usually older. And feminists are the ones making the white knight policies, it's not tradcons that are passing VAWA or saying that female criminals shouldn't be treated the same as male criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 03:00 AM
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But a female 5 > male 5. A female 5 > male 8 even. Any woman who isn't fat has a higher SMV than almost any guy does. Even those girls in your picture are better off than most men, if they got an online dating profile they could get more messages and more dates than most men would.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 12:52 AM
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claim that women's standards for a long term relationship are HIGHER than their standards for random hookups and flings It's about age. A woman in her 20s has such high standards for an LTR that she never meets a man who fills those standards, so all she has are hookups. Then when she hits 30, her standards drop and finally there are men she will settle for an LTR with. Except the Chads already found the few women that had reasonable standards in their 20s, so she has to settle for whats left
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 03:22 AM
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Male. Most women I know want men to ask them out and make the first move, but will still complain about sexism when it doesn't benefit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:30 AM
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TRP isn't representative of men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:29 AM
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Single fathers never forced a mother into being a parent. He also isn't preventing a loving mother from being involved with her child. The law isn't equal here so you can't compare the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:25 AM
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In recent years we are seeing a growing number of women staying single throughout their 20s because they keep rejecting all of the men that want an LTR with them. The women aren't turning gay, they're just deciding to stay single. IME a lot of those women regret that decision later when they reach their 30s but that's another topic
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 02:25 AM
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My roommate used to live in NYC and she said it was nearly impossible to get a boyfriend it was nearly impossible to get a 10/10 Chad boyfriend. But she got asked out by plenty of decent men that she rejected and she got countless messages on online dating sites. She could have gotten an LTR if she had reasonable standards, but most women have much higher standards than men do. She also could have put more effort in, did she ever approach men, ask them out, or send the first message online?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 02:22 AM
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Yes, by far. No men are not the gatekeepers of commitment, that's just a stereotype that's doesn't match up with reality. Look at how many men get rejected by women vs the other way around. It's not just for sex, men are asking women out on dates all the time and either getting rejected up front or after a couple of dates. By the time a man is in an LTR he's been rejected by dozens or even hundreds of women that he wanted to date. If men were really the gatekeepers, they'd be rejecting women lef…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 12:46 AM
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No official stats, feminists tend to monopolize gender studies so it's hard to get official statistics on anything that contradicts their narrative. But if you talk to men and women it's obvious that women are the ones enforcing these gender roles. Ask your male friends what they think of women asking men out on dates and you'll see that men aren't the ones enforcing gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:10 AM
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But even if it was you're ignoring that it is natural for men to be more active in pursuing Because its natural for men to want an LTR more than women and that lots of men are thirsty af. which is my point and OP's point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:09 AM
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How many LTRs do you know of that did not start with a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:08 AM
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Except that men don't want relationships more than women do Yes they do. If not, explain why men have lower standards for relationships than women and why men put more effort into trying to get a relationship Point is, you are wrong, women want relationships just as much as men do and socially, men have just as much power in relationships as women do Point is, you're full of shit. If men had as much power as women, then why do we have traditional gender roles when men clearly don't want them? If…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:07 AM
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sometimes, but they also do those things to get an LTR and it's easy enough to tell the difference that if you reject him completely, you are rejecting a potential LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:06 AM
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It's literally what rejection means. You are rejecting a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:05 AM
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People who have been dating for some weeks or months and deciding whether or not to become an exclusive couple. That might be true, but to get to that point of dating for weeks/months, women rejected a lot of men along the way and men did not reject many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 06:00 PM
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Do you think it's wise and realistic to decide you want an LTR with someone before you know them? I highly doubt most men of any quality would make a woman his committed girlfriend after a single meeting. Of course not. But men are willing to get to know women, while women are not willing to get to know men. If the first step to an LTR is getting to know somebody and only men are willing to take that first step, then men are the ones who want LTRs. Women who constantly reject men for first dates…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 05:51 PM
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You can find exceptions anywhere, but it's mostly women that enforce these gender roles. Most men think it's okay for women to ask men out, while most women think that only men should have that responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 05:50 PM
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If you turn down a guy who talks to you at a party etc. and asks for your number that's rejecting somebody who likely would have wanted an LTR with you. If you ignore online dating messages you're rejecting guys who wanted an LTR. If you meet a guy for a date and then don't give him a second date, that's rejecting him. Women do that all the time and men do not It's not close to 50/50. It's probably not even 90/10. Women just have a lot more options than men do for having a committed relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 04:33 PM
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Men are still being expected to initiate and men are still the ones doing the vast majority of initiating. Because women have the power in relationships, and they set those rules. A man selects by deciding who he wants to ask out Women can select to do that too. But because men want relationships more than women do, most women don't bother asking men out. When women do the selecting, they have very very high standards. Most women who are single have turned down plenty of opportunities to have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 04:30 PM
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Technically, every woman that a man doesn't ask out is a woman who a man rejected for any sort of relationship. That doesn't make any sense. Women can ask men out too, they just choose not to because women don't want a relationship as much as men do so women choose to make men take the initiative. The fact that women, not men, dictate what gender roles we follow supports OP's point that women have the power in relationships. If women didn't have all of the power then men wouldn't have to do all …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 04:14 PM
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But that's just the way it is, it is generally the way it is in the animal kingdom. I won't argue with that, but we at least need to stop the myth that men are only after sex and that women somehow have a hard time finding a committed partner. Women can easily find a boyfriend/husband and women are the gatekeepers for relationships as much as for sex. But for some reason a lot of people, especially women, won't admit that and will only admit that women can get sex easier than men. I know a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 01:41 PM
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Personally I think the commitment thing is pretty 50-50 How often does the average man turn down an opportunity for an LTR, and how often does an average woman do it? Men rarely do, young women do it weekly, if not daily especially if she has an online dating account.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 01:40 PM
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MGTOW is motivated by sexist gender roles that women impose on men and by a sexist legal system that fucks over fathers. Women don't have those problems. Dating is very easy for women, and the legal system is in their favor, so they don't have any need to avoid relationships like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 03:44 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/6mn0p1/betsy_devos_meets_with_mens_rights_activists_get/ The last administration did not support male victims of rape, and enacted policies that lead to innocent men having their rights taken away and being expelled. Now the new Secretary of Education is meeting with people who believe that male victims of rape deserve the same support that female victims do, and who believe that men falsely accused of rape shouldn't be presumed guilty. And your subr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 11:40 PM
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Are you seriously denying that most SJWs and feminists do just hate men? MRAs are almost universally hated by feminists. Look at Cassie Jaye to see what happens when a feminist doesn't hate men. The movement is anti-male at heart. I don't like TRP either, and /r/theredpill is full of misogynists. But /r/TheBluePill is full of misandrists like most feminist spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/17 11:17 PM
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Even male rape victims have to pay child support. What are they supposed to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 06:29 PM
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and get her to ask you She won't, she'll wait until she can find a real man who asks her out. Playing girl games and giving subtle hints instead of asking her out directly will make her think you're not manly enough to date. That's how it works, it doesn't matter how much a girl likes you she will only date a traditionalist man. And relevant to the OP, that applies just as much to feminist women even if they won't admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 02:11 PM
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Before any trolls try to divert this into an issue about Islam (as some are claiming), can we acknowledge and focus on the basic men's rights issue Thank you. The left wants to blame all men and the right wants to blame all muslims. MRAs don't have anybody to support to address the real issues
/r/MensRights06/07/17 02:26 AM
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Milo, Roosh V or Warren Farrell Milo is not an MRA, Roosh hates MRAs, and Warren Farrell tried to work with feminists for decades. How is he an "angry troll that is desparate for controversy?" What about Karen Decrow or Erin Pizzey, how were they just angry trolls? Do you even know anything about MRAs or do you just repeat what you read on Jezebel? Don't just base your idea on the name Why? Why is it called the violence against women act? Why is it only anti-feminists who want to change the name…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 01:28 AM
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and try not to be antagonistic against women and Feminism MRAs have never been antagonistic against women, except to the extent that women push traditional gender roles on men. As for feminism, the MRM started as a feminist movement and only went anti-feminist because most feminists insisted men didn't have any issues. Feminists are not fine with men's concerns in any context. They oppose creating a men's issues group on campus, they oppose an International Men's Day, they oppose the need for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:43 AM
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They won't ask but they might smile at the guy and expect him to do all of the real work My point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:42 AM
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But in general, it's women who want LTRs more than men. You think that women are asking men out on dates more than men? You think that women have lower standards for LTRs than men? Bullshit No one "forcing" men to do anything because their personal preference is masculinity When all women have that preference? A man's only choice is to stick to traditional gender roles or be single. And C) that men "bear all of the burden in a relationship." Men have to approach women or send the first message o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:41 AM
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But it's also feminists that give men the power to talk about their problems What the fuck are you talking about? Feminists are the ones that shut down men who try to talk about their problems. All of the people that are trying to empower men to talk about their problems are forced to become anti-feminists. Because that's usually a talking point from the 70s Duluth model was created in the 80s and remained the most popular DV model into the 21st century, and is still used by the navy. and they b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:37 AM
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of course feminists support equality Can you name some who do? This isn't about feminists not being concerned with men, this is with feminists opposing everybody who is concerned with men. Feminists saying that sexism against men doesn't exist, or that violence against men/boys isn't important, or that women deserve to be more respected than men, or that mothers are better than fathers, etc. Where are the mainstream feminists who don't oppose equality for men? Where are the feminists who oppose …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:21 PM
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Is this real? OP's link is to a picture on an anti-feminist page, and I can't find any mention of this on VICE's own instagram account.
/r/MensRights04/07/17 02:48 PM
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https://www.datingsitesreviews.com/staticpages/index.php?page=Tinder-Statistics-Facts-History The Tinder app currently receives 1.6 billion swipes per day, 26 million matches per day and 9 billion total matches since its debut in 2012. So Bumble is a fraction of Tinder, and Tinder is a small fraction of dating overall. Don't act like Bumble is significant in any way, because it's not and most women haven't even heard of it, let alone use it. From talking with friends who have used Bumble, a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 02:08 PM
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Women will make moves if they really like you No they won't. They might make small moves but they won't actually ask you out or anything
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 01:59 PM
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I haven't used it but from talking to men who have (and my experience with the rare women who message guys first on Tinder), women just say "hi" and then expect the man to take it from there (including actually asking her out). It's also not the same since you've already matched, so the risk of rejection is mostly gone. Bumble is also small and has a lot of bots
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 01:57 PM
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Please get in a relationship with a man I'm a heterosexual man so no. What do you not believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 01:39 PM
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Who asked the other on the first date? What about the second date? Who initiated the first kiss? Sex? You're delusional if you think there is anything close to equality in gender roles for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:59 AM
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It's an app with very few users. It's obscure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:59 AM
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Men are more interested in getting laid than women are First of all it's not just "getting laid," men are also more interested in serious committed relationships than women are. Second of all, it's still sexist and unfair for women to abuse this fact by forcing men to adhere to traditional gender roles. When a woman does find a man attractive, she still won't ask him out. Or she won't even find him attractive unless he is more assertive and dominant than she is. You can't change biology, but you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:56 AM
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not necessarily unfair But they are unfair. Men have to put more effort into dating than women. Women have higher standards than men. Men get rejected more than women. A woman who doesn't get dolled up, but does ask men out, is still going to be successful at dating. Much more than a man who treats women like equals, because it is extremely rare to find any woman who will date a man that supports equal gender roles. Women are also expected to be more passive no, that's an excuse women use to jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:48 AM
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Yes they are. I know more than a "handful" of women, and if you've ever talked to a man you'd find they all have the same experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:45 AM
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It's an obscure app that most women never use, and even the few who do still expect the man to take all of the initiative after the first message. There are of course a lot more women on other dating sites, and those women rarely message men first. And in real life, women don't approach men or ask men out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:45 AM
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But still at the expense of men in those countries. MGM is a problem around the world too, especially in developing countries where a lot of boys die from it. Male victims of DV or rape have even less support in developing countries than they do in the west, and feminism is usually to blame. In India, MRAs convinced the government to make it illegal for a woman to rape a man, but feminists protested so much that the government changed their mind and it's still legal for women to rape men there. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:40 AM
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but nobody seems to want to link to actual examples of this Have you ever asked? Even a casual MRA can give you examples, and there were several shown in The Red Pill (which itself was protested especially in Australia) The University of York was forced to cancel it's plans for International Men's Day in 2015 because about 200 feminists, including professors, protested claiming that talking about men's issues was sexist. They would have been one of the only major universities in the world to ack…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:36 AM
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I keep seeing MRAs ask this, and no feminist can ever answer it. So I'll ask it here: Can you name a single mainstream feminist or feminist organization that supports equality? I understand that there are fringe feminists like Christina Hoff Sommers, or maybe some of your friends support equality, but are there any known mainstream feminists that aren't anti-male?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:21 AM
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but feminism is about equality for both sexes Can you show me an example of somebody who calls themselves a feminist and supports equality for both sexes? And is accepted by other feminists (so not Christina Hoff Sommers etc.)?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:14 AM
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h you mean the men that didn't allow women to vote in the first place Also the men who didn't force women to go to war like they did the male voters (which is why men were allowed to vote). They don't talk about that in your women's studies class do they?
/r/MensRights04/07/17 03:13 AM
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If the only defense of feminism you can make is to point to something that happened 100 years ago, maybe it's time to give up on the movement. Today, feminism is the movement that prevents male victims of rape or DV from getting help, and prevents fathers from seeing their kids, and prevents men from being treated as equals by the justice system. The right to vote was long before you were even born, so what relevance is it today?
/r/MensRights04/07/17 03:12 AM
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I don't know for these sources, but there's a difference between BMI and bodyfat. Since men lift weights and women don't, men have higher BMIs even when we aren't fat. Studies that look at bodyfat instead of BMI find that women have a lot higher rate of obesity than men.
/r/MensRights04/07/17 03:09 AM
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Yes. I think too many people on /r/theredpill are unethical, but if you cut it down to the basics of teaching men to play the game by the rules that women decided, then it can be ethical in theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 03:00 AM
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It's not just that they aren't "identical" it's that the burden women put on men is much higher than the burden men put on women. And it is conscious, women are consciously deciding not to ask men out and to only date more assertive men. It could easily be avoided if women stopped being so sexist and started viewing men as equals.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 02:56 AM
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Women make men do all of the work and deal with all of the rejection. How is that not unfair?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 02:34 AM
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Do you think there are single men who are happy being single? I know plenty of single men, especially older ones, who are happy being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 02:29 AM
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How old are they? I knew a lot of women in their 20s who were happy being single. Once you get to 30, I think a lot of women regret their decision to stay single, but there are still some who just never wanted to get married and settle down, and still don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 02:27 AM
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(not passive) since being passive is not taking initiative I'm obviously not talking about that. I mean that men have to approach women, start the conversation, ask her out, make the first move, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 02:26 AM
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Women are as shallow as they're allowed to be. If the only man a woman ever encountered was a 5'5" average looking guy, she would be less picky. IRL, women have a lot of options, so they are still pretty shallow because they can afford to be. But as many options as she has in real life, she has 100x more options online so she is going to be a lot more shallow online. On top of that, since IRL women already have a lot of options, most of the women you see online are so shallow that all of the men…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 01:55 AM
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IME, most women, whether feminist or redpill, want a man who is more assertive than she is and who takes all of the initiative. If anything, that applies even more to women looking for commitment. The only women who ever took any initiative with me were hookups. Some aspects of TRP might be wrong and counterproductive, but the core is really aimed at the fact that women put unfair pressure on men to be assertive and "alpha," and feminist women looking for a long-term commitment are as guilty of …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 01:41 AM
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Are men not victims of domestic abuse? Are all domestic abusers male?
/r/MensRights29/06/17 03:48 AM
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As a man who was in an abusive relationship in college, I didn't see this poster but I did get this same message over and over and it made it very hard to even recognize that I was being abused. She would hit me, threaten me, even burned me with a cigarette but it wasn't until the end that I could realize it was abuse, because of messages like this. Fuck whoever made this, I spent that relationship asking myself what I was doing wrong because of this
/r/MensRights29/06/17 03:44 AM
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We're talking about potentially innocent men falsely accused of rape. Why should they face consequences?
/r/MensRights25/06/17 12:06 AM
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You should contact the Dean or if they have an office that handles sexual assault, and let them know that this is not okay. It might not do anything but if more people complain about things like this eventually it will stick
/r/MensRights22/06/17 12:59 PM
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Holy shit the image on that site is for the Idaho State Police. It's bad enough we have colleges promoting this but for an actual state police department to be spreading messages like this is really fucked up.
/r/MensRights22/06/17 12:58 PM
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What college is this? Is it recent?
/r/MensRights22/06/17 12:59 AM
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MRAs have gotten better at communicating in the past few years as some more mature voices have joined the cause. Warren Farrell wasn't mature? Fred Hayward, Marc Angellucci, Harry Crouch, Karen Decrow, Erin Pizzey, etc weren't mature? AVFM was founded in 2009. I've personally been involved in the gender debate since a little before then and I can tell you that feminists were against any discussion of men's issues since before Elam came about. We don't want to be your enemy. Everything we've seen…
/r/MensRights20/06/17 12:47 AM
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https://www.google.com/ The Google doodle is about Father's Day though, not cucumbers or paper clips. So what is the point of this thread? Why are we complaining about "Happy Father's Day 2017!"
/r/MensRights18/06/17 09:20 PM
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because Turnbull is absolutely not a feminist Then how about President Obama? He's a feminist, and he also thought that DV was only violence against women If you don't know the difference between a liberal feminist and a radical feminist, or the difference between patriarchy and kyriarchy, you're not a feminist What if you don't know the basics about your movement's history with men's issues? Because you seem clueless about the feminist movement's long history of fighting against equality for me…
/r/MensRights18/06/17 08:49 PM
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Cassie Jaye said that it wasn't learning about MRAs that caused her to stop being a feminist, it was learning about feminism. Did you ever think that maybe we know more about feminism than you do, and that it's you who aren't seeing the whole picture? "We don't need an International Men's Day because every day is International Men's Day" isn't something feminists on the fringes said, it's something most mainstream feminists believe. Mainstream feminists deny that sexism against men exists. Mains…
/r/MensRights18/06/17 08:04 PM
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Cassie Jaye said that it wasn't learning about MRAs that caused her to stop being a feminist, it was learning about feminism. Did you ever think that maybe we know more about feminism than you do, and that it's you who aren't seeing the whole picture? "We don't need an International Men's Day because every day is International Men's Day" isn't something feminists on the fringes said, it's something most mainstream feminists believe. Mainstream feminists deny that sexism against men exists. Mains…
/r/MensRights18/06/17 07:54 PM
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I think they are well meaning but naive I believed that at first and it was obvious the moderators didn't know anything about feminism, MRAs, or men's issues when they started the sub. I thought after they did their research they would start actually supporting men, similar to how Cassie Jaye changed her views after learning about MRAs and feminism. But we're over two years in and they still haven't changed or apologized to MRAs. At this point the mods are no longer naive and are being intention…
/r/MensRights18/06/17 03:15 PM
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Or, are they trying to somehow fix men for the benefit of women? The sub is based on the pro-feminist men's movement, and they've always been up front about the fact that they don't want to help men, because men don't need help. Instead the only interest the pro-feminist men's movement has in men's issues is helping fix men so men can stop harming women. That's the basis for MensLib, and until they denounce the pro-feminist men's movement and support MRAs, the subreddit doesn't have any interest…
/r/MensRights18/06/17 03:13 PM
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Feminists spend a lot of time talking about solidarity with men's issues too No they don't. Feminists spend a lot more time telling us that we don't need an International Men's Day because every day is International Men's Day. And when MRAs disagree, menslib just defends feminism and calls us misogynists for not agreeing with feminism for saying men's issues never matter.
/r/MensRights18/06/17 03:10 PM
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They seem to support male victims of domestic abuse Do they? They support the pro-feminist men's movement, which has been lead by people like Michael Kimmel and denies that men can be victims of DV. They refuse to criticize the feminist movement for treating DV as just violence against women. And they attack MRAs for believing that male victims should have the same support female victims have. That sub doesn't actually care about men, it's all just lip-service to make feminism look good. Somethi…
/r/MensRights18/06/17 03:07 PM
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According the the US government and most feminist researchers, the literal definition of rape is that it's only rape if the victim is penetrated. If you didn't know the rape statistics from the government and feminists don't count male victims unless he was sodomized.
/r/MensRights04/05/17 03:27 AM
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If you think it's only the extremists who support things like the Violence Against Women Act, then we have definitely had very different experiences. Are you American? In America at least it's rare to find a feminist who doesn't support VAWA, or find a feminist who has a favorable view of MRAs, or who acknowledges that Hillary/Democrats are sexist on issues like DV
/r/MensRights10/04/17 11:56 PM
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It is called the "Feminist Majority Foundation"... and I haven't met many feminists who disagree with this view that DV just means violence against women.
/r/MensRights10/04/17 02:12 PM
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Spillar is not an extremist, she's one of the most influential feminists in the country. The Democratic party agrees with her (see VAWA), and I don't see many feminists criticizing them. In fact most feminists think you're a misogynist if you didn't vote for Hillary or if you don't support VAWA. Most feminists I've talked to treat "violence against women" and "domestic violence" as the same thing.
/r/MensRights10/04/17 02:11 PM
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Unfortunately, as the Executive Director of one of the country's largest feminist organizations and the Executive Editor of the largest feminist publication, she has a bigger platform than any MRA does.
/r/MensRights10/04/17 01:41 PM
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Women who think that And it's not just women. Plenty of male feminists as well as male traditionalist conservatives also think that only men are abusers
/r/MensRights10/04/17 01:19 PM
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She's saying domestic violence against men does not exist. If you press her she'll probably specify that for heterosexual relationships it doesn't exist, but admit that gay men can be abused by other men.
/r/MensRights10/04/17 01:16 PM
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Get an iTunes gift card and use that to purchase it.
/r/MensRights10/04/17 01:15 PM
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As much as I dislike Trump, this "DV is only men hitting women" belief was part of the Obama administration and would have been part of Hillary's too. Spillar and the Feminist Majority Foundation were big endorsers of Hillary
/r/MensRights10/04/17 01:13 PM
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The Red Pill also had many women advocating for men's rights (including Alison Tieman, who is a moderator here). Even the director of the film is a woman. On the other hand aside from Katherine Spillar there was also Michael Kimmel in the film, a male feminist who opposes men's rights. People here don't hate women, or even necessarily all feminists. We just hate people who say things like men can't be victims of DV, which includes a lot of feminists like Spillar
/r/MensRights10/04/17 01:06 PM
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A lot of the movie is MRAs sharing their experiences of abuse, and talking about trying to raise awareness of men's issues. You can learn more here
/r/MensRights10/04/17 12:53 PM
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The Red Pill Movie was directed by a feminist. When she found herself agreeing with MRAs more than she expected, she decided to start interviewing feminists too to get their arguments. But those responses drove her further away from feminism, so by the time Cassie Jaye was finished making the film she stopped calling herself a feminist.
/r/MensRights10/04/17 03:40 AM
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Yes she is. More than 200 studies found that women abuse men as much as men abuse women. People thinks it's less because male victims are so much less likely to report it to the police
/r/MensRights10/04/17 03:37 AM
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men are typically the perp That's not quite true. It comes from people looking only at police statistics, where some 85% of people convicted of DV are male. But since our justice system is so sexist, especially when it comes to DV, those numbers don't reflect the actual numbers. More than 200 studies found that women abuse men as much as men abuse women. Some studies have found that male victims of DV are often arrested instead of their perpetrator, which leads to males being cautious about repo…
/r/MensRights10/04/17 03:34 AM
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Cheer up, attitudes are changing. There is a lot more public support for men's rights now than there's been in the past, it shouldn't be much longer before people like Spillar lose their influence
/r/MensRights10/04/17 03:32 AM
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More than 200 studies found that women abuse men as much as men abuse women. Numbers change depending on methods used and if you look at severity, but even when you look at victims who are injured men still make up around 40% of victims.
/r/MensRights10/04/17 03:29 AM
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No. It made me really depressed but I never even though bout having her criminally charged. I don't know how it would have gone if I did
/r/MensRights10/04/17 03:27 AM
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Not for free, but you can rent it for only $4 online, and it's definitely worth it. The director put a lot into this movie, we need to help her make it back
/r/MensRights10/04/17 03:25 AM
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Here's is the list of streaming on line
/r/MensRights10/04/17 03:21 AM
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Here's is the list of streaming on line
/r/MensRights10/04/17 03:19 AM
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Anybody who knows what they're talking about knows damn well that most feminists don't care about male victims of DV, but I still thought that the feminists in The Red Pill would give the tired "but that's all the patriarchy's fault and we need more feminism to help male victims" line. I was pleasantly surprised to see Spillar be so honest about the fact that she doesn't think men like me exist and she doesn't care at all about male victims of DV. Fuck you, Katherine Spillar, and fuck everybody …
/r/MensRights09/04/17 08:37 PM
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