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Not necessarily 100% percent perfect Angels, but certainly better than those shitty men. In most sources of media this shows up. The "don't even want sex" bit is part of the typical Disney fantasy. Every woman is a princess and will only be woo'ed when her prince meets her finally. And her prince will do whatever it takes to get to her. Essentially, the fairy tale shit that they tend to sell to little girls but apparently only the boys end up believing in it. Because most of Red Pill was ready t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 07:27 AM
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It's only genetic to the extent of having a broad body type. Being fat or not being fat isn't genetic at all, it's to do with habits and nutrition.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 07:13 AM
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Both speak to character. One shows one's stance on sexuality and relationships, and the other shows one's ability and willingness to pursue a sexual goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 07:03 AM
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Because it's massively skewed towards one gender over the other and causes a negative impact on your later relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 06:58 AM
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Not even close
/r/PussyPassDenied18/09/16 12:56 PM
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We can talk and be bothered by shit without it taking over our life, seriously man
/r/MensRights09/07/16 09:31 PM
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Yes, yes it is
/r/MensRights09/07/16 09:12 PM
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tumblrite
/r/MensRights17/06/16 01:23 AM
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That's circular reasoning though, no matter how literally we take things.
/r/MensRights18/03/16 02:28 AM
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Then how is he not?
/r/MensRights18/03/16 12:51 AM
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Fucking beautiful
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/15 02:18 AM
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Cause boys have germs and are so gross.
/r/MensRights13/11/14 06:32 PM
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Well, I agree with you on basically all of what you said here. You cleared up a bunch of misconceptions I had on this. However, there's still something I need to clear up. I don't understand your points at all. You can still be raped by someone you trust (in fact it's the most likely person to rape you), and the rape occurring due to malice or ignorance is unknown to the victim - we can't expect them to read the mind of their rapist to judge whether they'll definitely react violently if they res…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/14 01:47 AM
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That's cool, but don't be surprised that people are discussing a subject in a place created for that purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/14 12:16 AM
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Is hilarious, if for no other reason then the fact that you don't "discuss" your "philosophy" is because you need to indoctrinate. But we do discuss TRP. The TRP community has conflicting opinions very commonly, and even here tons of threads are made by RedPillers. We usually don't take them to subs not designed to discuss them because we don't need to shove them in people's faces. I mean, why would we? What do we gain from having more people follow TRP? Absolutely nothing. Most people on reddit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/14 11:50 PM
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She gives examples, some of them were her lying back with a smile, some were her moaning, and some were verbal in other ways (e.g. "oo yeah, I like that"). She only mentioned an actual verbal yes as one example among many. Only one of those was non-verbal (lying back with a smile), and I admit I missed that one (saw it on a rewatch). And moaning isn't talking, but that and "resounding yes" fall pretty in line with each other. For starters, I'd question where this "cultural norm" came from - it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/14 11:14 PM
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Usually, TRP messages aren't even taken beyond the TRP subreddit, they don't need to. It's commonly said on that sub that the less people there are, the better, as some of the TRP theory/"philosophy" can get diluted and distorted fast. In fact, it commonly is distorted even inside the sub. I, and most TRPers, aren't trying to "indoctrinate" people. If you have the same opinions on these matters as us, cool, if you don't, well, that's fine by me too. When I was in those other subs, I didn't expec…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/14 10:52 PM
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And I agree with you on that, and on the second quote I made too. I did disagree on the first quote I made, and on the first alone, and would like for you to explain better/more fully your view on flirting, as it's different from most.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/14 10:48 PM
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I just watched the video and Laci makes it clear that the issue of consent doesn't need to be verbal... Did you link to the wrong video? She does? I saw the whole video and only saw verbal enthusiastic yes messages being accepted as valid ways to consent by her. The closest part was after she talked about "stop lights" and said if any of those indicators are present it can be important to get a verbal yes, presumably because if you're not sure if someone is actually wanting to have sex with you …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/14 10:23 PM
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And when you actually read it, you see that is all a load of shit. Why? A dead woman and a talk show host? Dude, stop posting about this for the next six years. When they are/were widely respected and their opinions are looked up to by a large amount of the population, yes, those are popular/vocal members. What of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/14 10:08 PM
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You're in a subreddit about discussing TRP, saying that it doesn't merit discussion is a bit counter-productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/14 09:42 PM
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It's flirting and all flirting is a form of manipulation on some level. So all kinds of sexual relationships come from a basis of manipulation? I didn't get the sense that she felt coerced, though I don't have her "inner monologue" the way we have his. It's very possible she could have conceded to placate him, but we don't know. That's true, but her actions don't show much opposition. In the end, we don't know how she felt, but it wasn't rape. I can think and feel that something is wrong, but if…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/14 09:40 PM
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Not having a 100% verbal "can we have sex?" agreement is considered by many people to be a lack of consent, leading to rape. Like feminist and sexologist Laci Green: http://youtu.be/TD2EooMhqRI
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/14 12:53 AM
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How does TRP advocate for rape? Is the saying "all women are like that" advocating for rape? So Sex and the City, or any other of the countless shows centered on the lives of a group of women, advocates for rape when one of the character says "all men are the same"? I'm not sure if I follow here. Also, I didn't mean to say that sex was earned in any way. No one "deserves sex", that notion is ridiculous. But it's a notion supported by society, that "someone only deserves sex after going through a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/14 12:47 AM
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Fair assessment to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/14 12:42 AM
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At BluePill, I was shown three main things points that supported that TRP hated women. The first one was the famed album of bitter remarks about women. I'd argue that some of those aren't sexist, just comments taken out of the context of a post (I don't remember which, but some only said that women and men were fundamentally different), some were men going through the anger phase, where some anger and bitterness does indeed get released, but it's just a phase and it's not looked at as a source o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/14 12:41 AM
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That, the support he got and the crazy fucking PMs I got all weekend for wanting a discussion going is way more hate than I saw at TRP during all of my time there. Just bringing the subject of TRP having some validity (not on TBP) garnered insults. That's supposed to be normal and accepted? I'm a hateful person for supporting a community of improvement as men and knowledge about social dynamics? Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/14 12:13 AM
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The user in question said "If you don't believe this case is rape [the one we're discussing in this thread], then you are a bad person and having a discussion with you would be meaningless". It wasn't about supporting TRP, as it was, at the time, a discussion about the definition of consent and personal opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/14 11:33 PM
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I was referring in particular to the attitude of "you either have the exact same opinions that I do or you're a bad person" that was repeated on the comments of the blue pill thread. That and the senseless hate mail I got, along with any tries to start and discussion on the subject being shut down and turned into an insult-fest. If that's not close minded, I don't know what is. And I tried having a discussion on what you mentioned too, but guess what happened. "You subscribing to TRP means I'm b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/14 10:40 PM
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Oh god ahaha, I didn't notice that one
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/14 09:00 PM
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Thanks for the insight and for the thread link, I'll check it out, you bring up some important things about the doc that flaw it. Definitely felt a political bias from it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/14 08:46 PM
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I definitely felt that this weekend. It's incredible how a group that talks so much about tolerance is at its core so bigoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/14 08:36 PM
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I'll link you the full convo if you want, it's pretty freaking weird to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/14 08:04 PM
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Who exactly claims that she didn’t want to have sex with him and what is the argument behind that? Or is this just hypothetical? I'm sorry for not being more explicit. The claim is made that, since she said "We can't fuck, I'm on my period" that she didn't want to have sex with him and it was, thus, rape, when they did have sex. From the way the post reads, he could’ve said “I don’t mind” and would have had the same outcome. No sex-earning societal messages or anything of the rest required. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/14 08:03 PM
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I wasn't aware it had been posted here a million times. They do source some studies, is that not good enough? I'm aware the info I have could be more full and comprehensive, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/14 07:54 PM
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So an anti-fat sentiment is somehow related to anti-woman? What.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/14 07:50 PM
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I'm not banned from TBP, but I'm pretty hated there. I'm banned from TRP though, for "concern trolling" in the past. What did you say on TBP to get banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/14 07:48 PM
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Elliot?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/14 07:44 PM
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So you're an atheist or agnostic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/14 07:34 PM
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This very interesting documentary is related to the subject at hand. The first episode addresses the issue you're talking about, and it's science, and it's very well accepted in TRP. In TBP, all I've seen is "we're all the same, and you're a misogynistic if you say we aren't".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/14 07:32 PM
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That link is borked on my end.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/14 07:13 PM
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I would've been bothered with that post if she said "No", "Stop", "Stop touching me", "Let's call it a night" or anything of the sort. "I'm on my period" isn't an objection. It's like saying "We can't have sex cause my brother is sleeping on the next room". She said she wanted to, but "couldn't" thanks to conditions outside of her control. But she didn't, in fact, say that she didn't want to have sex with him. Her refusal is one that, in my opinion, is the one seen as almost obligatory by girls …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/14 06:29 PM
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I define feminism the same way they do. "Equaling the rights of the genders", with all talk of responsibilities being omitted.
/r/MensRights05/10/14 01:21 AM
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/r/TheRedPill just seems too politically intertwined and too eager to use anecdotes as data. Kinda like show one example, then apply it to all others. Ignore that then. Reading field reports is not exactly my thing either, but their analysis of /r/relationship posts are pretty good. Also, I'm a liberal and I'm RP. Even then, I also don't see the racism, misogyny or discrimination in general people spout about it. And if it did exist, you could filter it, like you said.
/r/ExRedPill04/10/14 09:02 PM
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I wasn't saying he should get a higher level job, like you said. Record matters. I agree with you on what you said. But the posts I was answering to were discussing "shaming for the rest of their lives", and that's what I was on about. Even for shit that wasn't proven in court and is at least partially believed to be made up, like Michael Jackson's pedophilia, had a label put on the guy for life. If you are accused of something disgusting publicly, true or not, the label is stuck on you for life…
/r/PussyPass27/09/14 05:42 PM
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It isn't cool. That's why he was put in jail. People doing bad things who are justly punished shouldn't be shamed for the rest of their life for a mistake they made.
/r/PussyPass27/09/14 02:41 PM
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Don't give up man, everybody starts small. Team up with someone more experienced, try to do something more basic, but if you truly love game making, then turn that dream into a goal and start working towards it. It's not the first time that something low-effort surpasses something made that took tons of work, as the success doesn't necessarily correlate to quality. We can see that in all art forms, but even in AAA titles in gaming it shows - most sports games are the previous year's game with ro…
/r/PussyPass22/09/14 11:26 PM
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m00t is also in cahoots with SJWs, apparently is dating one, hangs out with Anita Sarkeesian and has said publicly "he thinks she's the bees knees" (got this from reddit comments, so don't ask for a source) So all the mods are now SJWs and shit went down the drain.
/r/PussyPass22/09/14 08:50 PM
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On 4chan? None, they don't give a shit. See the OP. On the internet and in real life? Attention.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 10:47 AM
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the most famous mras are women And that's exactly in line with what is said in the OP
/r/MensRights17/07/14 10:46 AM
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It went over your head. It's not that they don't want women, it's that they don't want genders to even be taken into account. In there, they're not "men" or "women", they're anonymous and that's what it's supposed to be. If you try to change your status as an equal for meaning to identify as a gender there (which would've given you a fair amount of attention in real life) you stop being one of them.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 10:41 AM
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The username looked sarcastic enough. It's not one of "those" accounts?
/r/MensRights02/08/13 11:51 PM
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I guess people didn't catch the irony here
/r/MensRights02/08/13 03:46 PM
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Nope, I'm MRA and not blue pill, but that still means equal rights. What in particular made it seem I wasn't?
/r/TheRedPill15/07/13 10:37 AM
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Good point with the MRA thing. I didn't really think in-depth about it, but it's true. And what I mean in this sub is some shit I see sometimes in SRS about guys - just reversed. One specific example I kinda mentioned in the OP: some comments in this thread. I wasn't talking about the theorizing in and on itself. Most of it I agree with and take a part in myself. I'm talking about shit like a thread a while back that analyzed the interactions between a Beta and a girl he went on a date with wher…
/r/TheRedPill15/07/13 10:13 AM
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Wrong way to approach the subject then. I shouldn't have put it that way. On regards to the rest of what you said, I guess that would be it. I got the answer I was looking for. I may not feel empathy because getting the information this sub showed me didn't cause such a big or violent change. Just a new way to look at things.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/13 09:52 AM
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I went through the sidebar before doing this post. I know what it's about. The introduction was to provide some background to what I asked and said. To the subject. No assumptions were made. I also didn't tell anyone to change. On the OP, I asked questions. And some people answered them. And that last paragraph was what I was looking for.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/13 09:51 AM
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I'm not trying to change or shame anyone into changing anything. Why would I try to do that? I'm not a preacher nor I intend to be one. I haven't read enough of this sub-reddit to feel I can say I'm a part of it. Changing something I don't feel yet a part of is useless I'm just trying to discuss it. This is an open forum, and there are ideas (though in other threads) floating around that interest me. Some of them I agree with, some of them I don't. I'm trying to simply discuss them. So unless th…
/r/TheRedPill15/07/13 09:11 AM
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Don't be a dick and calm down. I'm just asking what the fuck you're all pissed off about and you act offended about me. And why is a little introduction "too much qualifying"?
/r/TheRedPill15/07/13 08:52 AM
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Dude, what the fuck? Shame? In what way am I shaming anyone? I'm just trying to understand why everyone is so offended here.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/13 08:48 AM
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What? Is this sarcasm?
/r/TheRedPill15/07/13 08:46 AM
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That reaaally sounds like hardcore feminist talk. Re-read that please. And why are you so pissed off too? Jesus fuck, calm down. No one is shaming anyone here. I've been on forums about social interactions from a young age, I love to talk and theorize too, but there is just so much hate floating around it's crazy.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/13 08:43 AM
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It's true...and I expect this post to get downvoted to hell as "some blue pill leftoid". I mean, I agree the gold is here, but the amount of hate is enormous. Hate for whores, hate for men who date whores, hate for men who don't have any social skills and therefore can't date whores. Why care? I get why they'd be bitter, especially if errors made/their state is unfixable. But mindless hate is just...mindless.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/13 08:15 AM
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Three is said by high value men all the time, but not with the same purpose nor meaning. It's more "I'm in an awesome vibe right now and you could be too if you were here". Also not said to ex-girlfriends.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/13 07:16 AM
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I'd say it's pretty clear
/r/TheRedPill12/07/13 01:41 AM
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It's the difference between "I'd do it again" and "I wouldn't". Seems pretty big to me.
/r/TheRedPill12/07/13 01:02 AM
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Wow, just reading this thread made me really angry... all I can do is wish for the best, as this is really cruel. And, holy shit, one year? I can't imagine how much you must've trusted her, and then she pulls something like this? It just made me rethink my standards. Good luck my good man, you don't deserve this at all.
/r/MensRights17/02/13 04:05 PM
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It's a business tactic, it might be sexist but they don't care nor should they - it's what makes them the most money. It's like having a preference of men over women for the same job as the woman might get pregnant, while the man can't.
/r/MensRights13/02/13 02:47 PM
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It's not "their" level anymore. They've been around for so long it's everyone's level but ours. And they aren't going to rise to our level either.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 02:55 PM
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My friends have been my transformation. I changed schools with a terrible self-esteem and since last February I've become a completely different person (met all my goals, I'm all I ever aimed for now), and all thanks to them. So there's no problem to me on that side. However, I once went on the field with a couple of my closest friends and I was just opening random sets. That night I wasn't aiming necessarily for a close, but to have fun with my friends and to maybe do something on the seduction…
/r/seduction24/11/12 01:20 PM
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There is also a large amount of girls (albeit idiotic) that claim they'd like to get beaten up by Chris Brown if it meant being with him. I know it's a rather extreme example, but it's a fantasy and the line isn't clear between what's creepy and what is not when we're talking about hypotetical events based on someone's desires. Jenny is not a sex symbol, or at least hasn't been for quite a while. Most people see her more on the dumb bitch area. However, David Tennant is a sexual symbol. It's pre…
/r/MensRights20/11/12 12:51 AM
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Dr. Who is known for groping 18 year olds without their consent?
/r/MensRights20/11/12 12:17 AM
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...dude, what the fuck? Why are you getting riled up about...that? No wonder you need help socializing
/r/seduction21/10/12 04:12 PM
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Don't talk out of your ass. It is completely out of context, in fact. Let's say this was a post about pokemon, like on Brock who also hits on girls like crazy but also gets rejected. It wouldn't make sense to comment on that with a pokepasta or anything not related to the character/situation in question. Starting a discussion on, for example, the "Ash is in a coma, so they don't exist" doesn't make sense just cause it's pokemon, or comparing pokes with each other. And it's a conspiracy theory ab…
/r/seduction21/10/12 03:34 PM
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I do. It's the shit.
/r/seduction21/10/12 03:31 AM
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Oh look, a completely out of context conspiration theory.
/r/seduction21/10/12 03:31 AM
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They never detect the guys who know pickup who they ended up getting genuinely charmed by and ended up sleeping with or even had a relationship with, only the dumbasses (or newbies) that walk up to them in a bar and insult their hair. That's spot on... same thing with auto-tone and plastic surgery. You only notice the bad ones.
/r/seduction18/08/12 11:31 PM
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That is an amazing comment, really insightful and I agree with all of it. Like Past Your Faptime said, I know we're supposed to just upvote and move on, but this was seriously just spot on. Tagged as "Vibe Controler"
/r/seduction18/08/12 11:26 PM
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A neg is more of a rapport builder nowadays, as every fucking one is using negs towards everyone. Most good PUAs also look down on negs and say they don't use them. With a girl I "pulled"(god I hate using that term) recently, I negged once and called her chubby when she has the perfect body - actually, I'd say she's pretty fucking perfect on looks. She remembered it and still uses it as a rapport builder and when she wants to chat me up nowadays.
/r/seduction18/08/12 11:22 PM
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Nothing really, I think currently I'm everything I've ever aimed to be. Maybe on the looks side it could use a bit of work like getting ripped but all I've ever gotten on them by girls has been really positive so I'm fine with that too. Good luck to everyone on their changes, I know I needed some with mine =]
/r/seduction18/08/12 12:37 AM
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That would solve half the problem. The other half is me simply being too young to go to some places, and also obviously my parents' prespective. I got time, though.
/r/seduction29/07/12 12:24 PM
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The only aspect of my life that I'm unhappy is that I need to relly on my family to get anywhere I want to, severely cutting back on everyone's freedom to do whatever they please, because I'm both too young and not a car owner. On myself, though? I fucking love myself, and when I finally figured myself out, I started cherishing my self-esteem.
/r/seduction28/07/12 11:27 PM
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Holy shit this is sooo true. Experienced it last saturday. Two set with a mate, and he was completely frozen, and the friend of my target looked bored (which is part of why I didn't manage to isolate) but shit did I get a ton of IOIs
/r/seduction16/07/12 03:17 PM
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Though some things we see in movies/tv shows are really spot on as what we want to happen in our approaches, in the end it is scripted (and usually a 2-part effort from both characters). Seddit has been having a few posts about Archer and Californication recently, but those are tv-shows, and unless we're talking about one liners, things happening exactly as scripted is almost impossible, since everyone is different. It's the same concept as those scripted talks we (I at least) think in our head …
/r/seduction16/07/12 12:28 PM
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Firstly, thanks for the answer. I have enough rapport to set a date, I already mentioned it and she said yes, but I mean just having convos untill there, and as I can't go direct for the date, it'll go stale quickly =/
/r/seduction16/06/12 09:41 PM
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I hate saying this, but it seems to be more of a jealousy thing that at one point the three of you had rapport (social vibe) and while you were able to succeed with her, he wasn't and was thus "humiliated a bit". I've only been on "Tom"'s spot yet though, not yours (at least not with a verbal indication), so take this with a pinch of salt
/r/seduction16/06/12 07:14 PM
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But I like women :(
/r/seduction11/06/12 01:12 AM
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It's 2AM, tomorrow is monday and I'm not old enough to go out at night alone by my parents standards in any situation =/ Shit's rough, day-game is where it's at
/r/seduction11/06/12 01:11 AM
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Haven't seen nor experienced this. Most girls I see and talk to every day rarely have headphones on, or if they do it's, like I said, only one of them and it's a non-issue.
/r/seduction09/06/12 02:16 PM
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I'd say... don't. If they're with headphones on, they're excluding themselves from contact or basically doing something that in that moment they are preferring over having social contact. I noticed that if they're open for talking they usually only put one on, but if you open her well that can be walked over. Still, she only has half of her focus on you (one of the ears commonly being kept with one of the headphones on even when talking to other people) which is not ideal. I mean, unless I'm int…
/r/seduction07/06/12 11:29 PM
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I think of it almost as going to the stigma related to having clothes from the street market. You can go there as it is way cheaper, but the quality is lower. Or you can go to something high-class and get really good clothes but with a higher price (in men's case, value). Most women prefer the high class shop, but will still visit the cheaper ones simply because it's convenient knowing they're there if anything goes wrong, and that they're easier to get too as there aren't as many costumers.
/r/seduction07/06/12 11:09 PM
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No offense, but there are men prettier than you that wouldn't get what you got even if they tried the hardest. Really fucking good work man, inspirational read too
/r/seduction04/06/12 02:19 AM
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That's... about it on game, really. Socialize with sexual innuendos.
/r/seduction04/06/12 02:16 AM
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I usually go for the waist and hips area. Way more sexual and confortable, and also makes it easier to get face-to-face (just turn her a bit) over doing what is basically an awkward hug. I usually only do it when we're lying down against something since it works better then. I also do it when I don't have enough rapport with a girl and for only a few seconds (usually as a "come here" kinda thing) as "the claw". I've also had a funny experience with this once where I almost literally took away th…
/r/seduction31/05/12 09:27 PM
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