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14

Yes. It's literally telling them that they are worth less than worse men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 04:29 PM
16

You're missing the fact that men's adoption of that view is a response to women using that excuse to explain why they go for shitty men. It's simple "turnabout is fair play".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 03:29 PM
8

The happiest countries in the world are the Nordic countries. Not surprisingly, they're also the most gender equal countries. They also have a very major issue with gender representation in the fields feminists say need more women. Almost like when women are left to their own choices they don't want to act like men...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 12:04 AM
1

If a man work and she stay home That's so rare today that it's not a point worth bringing up. The fact you still bring this up just shows that you aren't basing your stance on anything that actually exists today and are just regurgitating talking points that are 30 years out of date. Child support/Child custody-Children are usually in their mother's care. So, it would make more sense that women get custody of the children. See above. False rape report are between 2-10% of rape report according t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 12:03 AM
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Neither of those are true, and the way the laws have changed have severely constrained men. I'm'a be honest here, you seem very bad-faith here. You're denying the existence of things that have been well covered on this sub and are regularly gone over since those things render your entire viewpoint simply wrong. Enjoy trolling the sub, but do it to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 09:51 PM
3

So have men happiness too. Men are more liberated than they were during the 1950s lol, you actually believe that, don't you? It's 110% wrong and the reason for the aforementioned suicide rate increase, but facts don't enter into your worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 09:42 PM
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Are some women unhappy in today's society. Yes. But the same can said about men. This is completely irrelevant to the point I made. Again: women's happiness has been on a continuous decline since they were "lIbErAtEd", thus providing strong evidence that "lIbErAtIoN" was not beneficial. You can't brush off the delta with "sOmE pEoPlE aRe UnHaPpY".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 09:29 PM
10

The continues decline in measured women's happiness since they were "liberated" and the increase in happy pill prescriptions tells me otherwise. There was a movement, and the majority of women were told they would benefit, but that was a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 09:17 PM
5

It's not one-sided because if you actually study the 1950s, some women were miserable being housewives and those things did occur. And if you study happiness studies through today you'll see that women's happiness has been on a continuous decline, including recently going below men's happiness. So while you say 50s women were uhappy, the stats argue otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 09:11 PM
0

Yours was the double standard as you ignored the vast differences in effort. But you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 08:52 PM
8

They also didn't have to work and got spoiled for having to do the normal chores of the household (that still need to get done if you've worked 60 hours on top of that). Congratulations, you made a laughably one-sided list and thought no one would point out that it's a completely invalid take due to the bias. No such luck, bucko. Why would get married in my prime? Because otherwise you're stuck settling and spending the next 40-50 years unhappy due to that. But hey, I'm sure the increase in wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 08:51 PM
4

Considering that takes more effort than "don't be a glutton" and "open legs" it's not even remotely comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 08:46 PM
1

I mean, I don’t hear men IRL complaining about seeing that stuff on Tinder. And just how much time do men IRL spend talking about tinder with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 08:45 PM
10

It's not the 1950s anymore. Young women don't need to settle down at a young age. No, but then you can't cry when you don't and don't get treated like a 1950s housewife, either. You have a choice: settle down in your prime and get treated like it, or wait and get treated accordingly. In the real world you don't get to only get the best of everything, you have to take the bad with the good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 08:39 PM
3

When you say "in their 20s" you mean 28/29, don't you? While technically still in their 20s that's not really any different from the ones you think RPers are talking about. Early-20s women who are "ready to settle down" don't need to make a big drama post about it, they just do it since they still have the ability to get any guy they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 08:33 PM
2

Sex is literally the difference between a relationship and a friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 04:28 AM
2

So you're literally advocating brainwashing. Here's a hint: if the only way an ideology is palatable is with chemical-induced brainwashing, it's a shitty ideology. Seriously, this comment is pretty much the worst thing you could say if you were trying to get people to support your stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 08:04 PM
18

Closing in on 50 years of propaganda pushing the whole "evil whitey" narrative is paying off. We now have multiple generations wholly raised with that ideology.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/09/20 02:28 PM
4

She has visible rolls in her mom jeans, if that's the "before" picture the "after" must be just a sphere.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/20 02:29 PM
6

Because most coders are a combination of easily bullied and utterly thirsty which means bitchy women can run roughshod over them.
/r/MGTOW09/09/20 09:49 PM
5

Literally a sitewide rule violation, yet watch as nothing is done about it.
/r/MGTOW05/09/20 01:10 AM
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There are traditional men out there who respect a woman wanting to wait, that’s their target. Those traditional men don't want reformed party sluts, and that's most of what FDS is made up of. The entire point is for women who went all-in on hookup culture to change their behavior, but a traditional man isn't interested in a retread.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 06:12 PM
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The waiting is fine as long as she didn't sleep quickly with any other guy. We're talking about FDS here, they're the epitome of "oh shit, clock's running out!" Epiphany Phase chicks. Not a chance in hell they made the guys in the past wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 06:07 PM
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It depends entirely on whether she's willing to build a true relationship and future and isn't just using me as a placeholder. That's why I said they will be considered. I also won't fault them if they can't move on, losing a spouse isn't something everyone can get over and I can understand and respect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 08:44 PM
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From long-term commitment? Yes*. From casual fun? No, but I'll be keeping wrapped up. Sorry ladies, but if I'm going to raise kids they're going to be my kids. *Exceptions considered in the case of widows.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 08:21 PM
1

IIRC the sugar change happened in the 70s, as did the switch to corn syrup (which is less sweet per unit and thus requires more units and thus more calories to reach the same level of sweetness).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 05:03 PM
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One of the forms of "bullying" that the activists attacked was calling people out for eating ridiculous amounts, though. Our food hasn't changed that much since the 80s (which were much fitter), yet our population is much fatter. It's due to the normalization of utterly ridiculous portions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:56 PM
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I'd say the skyrocketing rates of obesity, accelerating in the age of "no bully", would argue otherwise. It may not work for every single person, but in general it seems more effective than not. I do agree with a middle ground. The message should be "being fat is bad, but making efforts that don't work perfectly is better than just giving up and being a lump".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:51 PM
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IMO that's half the problem. They've made it socially acceptable to be fat and unhealthy and as a society we need to be making moves in the opposite direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:48 PM
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Again: it's the double standard. When men have weight preferences it's the end of the world and proof men are pigs, yet when women have height preferences it's defended as "you can't control what you're attracted to". What makes it even more obnoxious is that weight can be changed, height can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:39 PM
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They're the same picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:35 PM
5

People take issue with that when there are massive (lol) movements dedicated to shaming men for their preferences. The complaint is rooted in the blatant double standard, not the existence of preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 04:34 PM
0

Grab a not-edited one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:56 PM
8

Troll elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:55 PM
37

I take issue with calling what Cardi B makes "music".
/r/MGTOW24/08/20 03:54 PM
3

Ok, I know you're trolling here, but I'll explain anyway. Men want relationships. Sex is part of a relationship. If 1/3 of men aren't having sex then it follows that very close to that number are also not in relationships (don't even bother bringing up outlier exceptions, I'll just mock you) and thus are failing to meet a need that Maslow put on the level of food and shelter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:51 PM
10

Maslow disagrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/20 03:49 PM
2

*psst* They're related
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 02:18 AM
1

The point is that automation and AI working that way is a fantasy because it needs maintenance and development, and those are the jobs that'll go unfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 02:02 AM
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You speak of certainties that have already been disproved before in history. Hell, they've been disproved by contemporary events - just look at the men who make up the bulk of ISIS/ISIL. You think it can't happen here, but so did everyone in the places where it has.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 01:15 AM
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Yes, frustration with society breeds extremists. ISIS, antifa, Proud Boys, they're all different variations of the exact same thing. Now imagine what the future looks like as ever larger shares of the male population feel that same disenfranchisement - or better yet, look to history. One of the most destructive wars in the pre-Industrial age was largely one very charismatic and angry man radicalizing something like a million Chinese men into revolting because they'd been disenfranchised.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 01:13 AM
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Who makes the robots? Who maintains them? Who installs them? Do you know a single thing about industrial automation in the real world, or are you just watching Star Trek and forgetting that it's fiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 01:10 AM
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We will see what happens. It's this one: society eventually stalls Fun tidbit from anthropology: there are no highly-developed matriarchal societies. Matriarchies are pretty much universally pre-Iron-age levels of development. So it's not a stretch to imagine that a developed society becoming a matriarchy will stall and then decline - possibly rapidly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 01:09 AM
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I think society will find out that that also simply doesn't work, at least not if you want a society that's beyond the "mud hut" level. Because there are societies that are exactly what you spell out here, and all of them are primitive tribes that, without outsiders giving it to them, have no technology more advanced than "tie stuff found on the ground together". So all those "absolutely necessary" luxuries of the modern age? Yeah, those go buh-bye. And if you think automation and AI are going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 01:04 AM
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Not surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 06:39 PM
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Your very public post history here proves you aren't asking in good faith, you're just exempt from the no-trolling rules and you know it. That's how you can post such an insane and factually-incorrect screed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 05:19 PM
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I'd probably go for the MT09 as Yamahas are a lot more reliable than Triumphs. Granted, I'm biased since I have the better-looking brother of the MT09 (XSR900).
/r/MGTOW20/08/20 08:24 PM
4

We're in full-tilt Weimerica.
/r/MGTOW20/08/20 07:08 PM
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Pretty much guarantee it. She got complacent, packed on the pounds, and now he's not interested in committing bestiality.
/r/MGTOW19/08/20 11:40 PM
9

So you're saying she's a cannibal.
/r/MGTOW19/08/20 11:38 PM
21

That's a good point. Lots of sex workers age really badly so while she's only 25 she may well look 35+ and wasn't able to compete anymore.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/08/20 06:07 PM
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In my opinion there's no difference between them as both of them will refuse to engage in anything resembling good faith and are doing so deliberately. Whether their motivation is "teh lulz" or proselytizing doesn't really matter to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:51 PM
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You're wasting your time. I linked them a source for that and they just pretended it never happened. They're a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:38 PM
6

Shoo, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:32 PM
10

safe legal easy access birth control only start in the 60s I literally already gave you a link that proved this wrong. The fact you're pretending I didn't just proves that you are trolling and here in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:28 PM
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No you don't. You've been deliberately ignoring every point made and reverting back to "nuh uh, never happened, never tried" no matter what point is being made. You're trolling, and you went just a wee bit too mask-off too early. People have pointed out that every step taken towards your "True Scotsman" corresponds to an equal or greater problem developing in society, people have pointed out that birth control isn't some new unprecedented thing, and your only response has been to ignore them and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:17 PM
10

"No True Scotsman" is a fallacy and that's literally all your argument is. Just concede is you can't use a non-fallacious argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:04 PM
3

It's not ironic, it's just proof that their claims about what they were about were lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:02 PM
11

Sorry, but you're a bad-faith troll, I'm just linking that for passersby. You can shoo, now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:01 PM
6

"No True Scotsman" is a fallacy and that's literally all your argument is. Just concede is you can't use a non-fallacious argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:58 PM
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Uh, yeah they did. They had a plant so effective they literally harvested it to extinction. This is a fairly regular post on TIL, I'm surprised you haven't seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:56 PM
1

> asks question > gets answer > ignores answer Then you pinkies wonder why no one engages with you in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:21 PM
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FWIW, unlimited sexual liberty has been tried before in human history. It was never found conducive to stable civilization. Question answered. It can be expanded on to detail how it isn't conducive to a stable civilization, but it all boils down to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:18 PM
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It turns out that people looking for radical dating strategies are doing so for a reason. Wow, what a "crazy" revelation...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:09 PM
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Women are, generally, followers. That's why they often do personality and interest 180s when they get a new boyfriend or social circle. So yes, I'm guessing she would. Also, it's a bad-faith argument. They're not actually participating in a valid discussion, they're using insane levels of hyperbole to derail the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:06 PM
6

It's literally being changed in exactly that way as the founding mods go inactive and these ones are able to operate without worrying about getting the boot, so it isn't going to exist much longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:05 PM
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The problem is that the "hive mind" in this sub wasn't going the way this mod wanted so they're changing the rules and will continue to do so until it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:03 PM
5

*psst* that's the reason for the change
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 06:01 PM
7

They're admins on alts. AHS is the company's "plausible deniability" sub.
/r/MGTOW13/08/20 02:16 PM
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Incentivizing a behavior leads to an increase in that behavior. In other news water wet, sky blue.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/08/20 07:18 PM
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You're a psych major, you're mentally ill. That's why pretty much every person in it is in it, after all. Excuse us for not taking you seriously.
/r/MGTOW11/08/20 04:11 PM
6

AWALT is just the same mentality as "all guns are loaded". Yeah, it's not literally true, but the costs of getting it wrong are so high that it's far better to be safe and assume it's true and act accordingly than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 04:08 AM
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As what they are: statistical anomalies with numbers small enough to actually effect any statistics-based analyses. Despite the massive overrepresenation in modern media, they are population so tiny that they're basically a rounding error.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 04:07 AM
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This is the right read. Men will casually hook up with / "date" ex-hookers, but the already-low marriage rate will drop to dangerous levels. That or a society with a huge number of angry and alienated single young men will go the way societies in that situation often do. Hope you've got emergency food and arms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 04:05 AM
2

Ah, and now we get to the "random off-topic questions" bit. Meh, bored now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 04:02 AM
6

Again: so why are you complaining? The world's doing what you say you want. So what's going on?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 04:01 AM
8

What's being said is that regular putting out is the literal bare minimum that must be present for a relationship to even begin to be considered. It's not the only prerequisite, but it's the one that absolutely must be present for any relationship to form. No putting out, no relationship. Putting out allows consideration, and that's where your other traits start to factor in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 03:58 AM
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Although, I’m not sure how that would make a Fleshlight less valuable than me as far as men are concerned? I mean, there have been articles showing up at an increasing rate recently pointing out that men seem to be less and less willing to pursue women, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 03:56 AM
20

Short answer: men need muscles, low body fat, a shitty attitude, and visible signs of wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 03:54 AM
7

And? Isn't that what you wanted? Didn't y'all tell us you needed us about as much as a fish needs a bicycle? So why the complaint when we're just into casual fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 03:53 AM
6

My EQ has bass boosted, mids level, and a slight dip on the treble.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 03:51 AM
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THERE JUST AREN’T AS MANY WORTHWHILE GUYS ANYMORE. If this is true then why the complaint? Shouldn't they be happy that they're freed from those "lOw QuAlItY" men? WOMEN ARE THE COMPLETE PACKAGE ON THEIR OWN. Again: so what's the problem? If you don't need us then why the complaints? MANY MEN CONTINUE TO BE THREATENED BY STRONG AND SUCCESSFUL WOMEN. Ah, and here comes her #cope. She mistakes "not interested" with "threatened". Sorry toots, I am my own strong and successful person, adding another…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/08/20 09:37 PM
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That's why I very firmly put my foot down right away that I only do "above and beyond" under VERY extreme circumstances - and I will be taking those extra hours back the following week. Want me to work Saturday? I'm either going to be out Monday or the following Friday. That's your trade off.
/r/MGTOW09/08/20 07:59 PM
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They don't like it when we reveal their tricks to each other. They know that the more of us know about the "fake date for free food" trick the less it'll work.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/08/20 07:24 PM
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once legitimate movement It was never legitimate. We now can say with absolute certainty that the old societal roles came into existence for a reason and going against them is going against nature.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/08/20 07:21 PM
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It turns out that the whole "fish bicycles" thing only actually applied to the man-hating lesbians who formed the leadership of the feminist movement. All the "useful idiot" straight women fucked themselves over because, being straight, that wasn't true for them. Oh well, idiocy should be punished so I can't pity them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/08/20 07:10 PM
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Actual trad women don't need to say it because the fact they live the life is proof enough. Any woman who loudly proclaims their "trad-ness" is trying to gaslight you since they know that their actual actions show that they're just another THOT.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 07:07 PM
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If she was trad like she claims she is she would've been married or at least engaged by 21 and her lifestyle would speak for itself. The women who proclaim their "trad-ness" the loudest are doing so because they know their lifestyle doesn't support their claims.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 07:05 PM
6

It's not just "not good", it's called grooming and is a fucking atrocity.
/r/PussyPassDenied07/08/20 07:02 PM
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It's why I'm single. I have too many expensive hobbies to support a woman on top of them. Ammo's not cheap, nor are care parts or quality instruments.
/r/MGTOW07/08/20 07:01 PM
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Real trad women (what few there are) don't need to proclaim their tradness - they simply live it. Any woman proclaiming that she's "trad" is trying to convince you of something that isn't true.
/r/MGTOW06/08/20 09:12 PM
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I disagree. All those illnesses are an attempt to try to cover for the fact that women simply aren't able to reach the same level of rational behavior as men. If they can call it an illness they can pretend that they're still equal when they're simply not.
/r/MGTOW06/08/20 08:55 PM
1

Weimar.
/r/MGTOW04/08/20 10:52 PM
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Ok. But you invalidated an argument with a report with ''leftists just say that words are violence'' when OP wasn't making the argument that right-wing rhetoric is violence? I was pointing out that since that is their standard they can't cry when someone treats their words the way they treat right wing words. The whole "responding to the opposition's words with violence" thing has been normalized by the left, it's not unfair to turn it back on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 10:18 PM
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I mean, I'm relating my observations after watching livestreams of these kind of events for years. Yes, there are occasional situations where the right wing behaves in such a way, but the vast majority of the time it's the left who are the ones to throw the first physical attack. I mean hell, they do it so often they have well-publicized tactics for getting away with it (black bloc), which also indicates that for them the physical conflict is intentional and not a case of emotions running high. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:37 PM
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Not legal in all countries, including the one most redditors are from. Yes, if you live in Europe you can make a weekend trip out of heading to Amsterdam or one of the other countries with legal prostitution, but that's not really an option in the US unless you're in one of the states bordering Nevada.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:34 PM
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That's literally the whole point of the policy. It's a laughably thin justification for "we are going to ban people who make arguments our side can't refute so we can feel like we're right even though we're just hiding from the counterargument". e: Aaaannd proved. They threw a ban at me for calling this out elsewhere and lied about it and claimed it was "iNcEl CoNtEnT". Well, unless the older mods do a well-needed purge this sub is 100% dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:33 PM
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False. Again: using your side's standards of "words are violence" it was your side who started it. No crying when your own standards are used against you. Don't like it? Well, shouldn't have normalized it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:32 PM
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Sure - but not with any intent of making it a long-term thing. We can go out, we can fuck, but if you think for a single second there's going to be a ring or any form of cohabitation or other long-term commitment you're out of your mind. Once a cheater, always a cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:04 PM
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It's not weird, it's just mask-off. They're a very hateful person and they can't contain their excitement at getting to actually hurt the people they hate. That user is a very sick person, they need help badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:00 PM
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lol, whatever you say. You're just upset your people are being held to their own standards. You guys keep saying "words are violence" and saying that they justify physical attacks, well you don't get to cry when your own standards are turned back on you. That's also called freedom of speech *ahem* "Freedom of speech only limits the government. It's not freedom from consequences." Again: turnabout is fair play. If you didn't want that mindset to get normalized you guys shouldn't have latched onto…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:58 PM
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That's the way they always do it. Make a vague rule and refuse to define it so it can be used as a weapon against whatever hurts a mod's feelings at a given moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:48 PM
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Well, it was. Maybe if the longer-term mods notice this and remove this mod it'll be like that again, but if the don't then the sub will remain successfully subverted into just another deliberately-mislabeled propaganda sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:41 PM
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As you guys like to say, "word's are violence". Don't pick fights you don't want to lose. But in seriousness, there are so many more examples of your side doing it that I don't see your point. Yeah, there were some outlier, but compared to leftist violence this is nothing to even talk about. Maybe you should actually know the facts before saying that. And? Nothing happened to her that leftists haven't done on a daily basis at the BLM rallies. Turnabout is fair play. It's also not what you were o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:40 PM
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Every single topic on this sub has been debated to death. The thing is that not every user has been around for the previous debates and so are new to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:35 PM
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Not allowed to talk about it here anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:33 PM
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That's kind of the nature of being an ideology based in fantasy instead of the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:31 PM
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If you enforce this in even the smallest amount, the entire forum is gone... That's the goal. It's become quite clear over the years this sub has existed that bloopie stuff is simply not based in reality and thus it can never win an actual debate. They're giving up on even pretending otherwise and just banning the half the debate based in the actual real world so they can spread their falsehoods unopposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:29 PM
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lol, can you link me any evidence? And I mean evidence that they got beat for their opinions, not for starting a fight and then losing it. I mean, I know you can't, but I figure I'd make sure that passersby know you're making stuff up. Try and say "Black Lives Matter" in rural areas of the US and see what happens to you. You get scoffed at. Now, if you get aggressive and threatening you may well end up getting your ass beat, but that's because you did a whole lot more than just said "black lives…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:28 PM
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Banning one side of the debate in a debate sub is the exact opposite of making it high quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:26 PM
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It's not a complex when you're being actively suppressed. You only call it a "complex" because that term has a negative connotation and you're hoping it'll shame people into just shutting up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:23 PM
11

See that's the thing, you say this is what you expect the far-right to do and yet it is universally the left doing these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:22 PM
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None. They all have women - and specifically blue-pill women - on the mod teams and so the discussion of actual observable facts is suppressed on every single one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:21 PM
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Do you care about the truth, or do you care about telling stories that fit into your ideology? Oh we know. The post they wrote is the latter with enough extra words to try to obfuscate their goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:20 PM
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When the blue pill has been thoroughly disproved by every single analysis of reality they have to take drastic actions to keep up the appearance that it's a valid view of the world. That and it looks like a good chunk of the mod team - and specifically the ones older than this mod and thus with the power to boot them - aren't active anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:19 PM
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Probably all the other mods have gotten bored of the topic and/or of reddit and so aren't active and won't boot this mod for openly going against the entire point of the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:15 PM
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the moderator frustration is showing because the message is powerful Right in one. Which isn't surprising when you remember that the message is literally just observations of the real world. It's really hard to actually argue against reality, so the only option is to use extreme censorship to ban all inconvenient facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:12 PM
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Spreading FDS propaganda. That was always the point, but they had to use a veneer of moderateness in order to get traction. It's your standard leftist bait-and-switch.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:11 PM
8

Rare mutations that shouldn't have society organized around them.
/r/MGTOW04/08/20 12:22 AM
5

18? JFC, talk about aging like milk left in the desert sun. I'd have guessed 28 or older.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/08/20 12:11 AM
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Well sir because not all women want to be tied to a man . Not all females are heterosexual Not sure if you really want to go this direction. Lots of effort over a lot of years has been put into convincing people that feminism isn't a movement by and for man-hating lesbians who are using straight women as useful idiots. However you can't just let the kids starve I can, they ain't mine. And even if they were, if I'm being blocked from involvement then the only tie is genetics, they aren't actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 06:50 PM
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The rules don't apply to leftists.
/r/MGTOW31/07/20 04:56 PM
8

If she's happy and thinks that she does desire him then that's genuine desire. Plus there's the whole "the more men she fucks the less able she is to actually bond with a man" thing, so following your advice just means she won't be able to desire anyone long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:52 PM
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Yes, but actually no. It's against the official written rules but it's never enforced when the people with the "right" ideology do it.
/r/MGTOW31/07/20 04:49 PM
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It's a dying hobby that actively pushes people out so of course the SJWs found it easy prey. That's why I always laugh when another one of their spots gets bought by someone with money and made private or posted by the Insta-thots they simp over and gets overrun by outsiders.
/r/MGTOW31/07/20 04:48 PM
4

Well now you know what kind of people are into surfing so you can ask yourself if it's really a group you want to have anything to do with.
/r/MGTOW31/07/20 04:45 PM
21

k. bye.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/07/20 04:37 PM
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Compare pictures of liberal and conservative activist women. The liberal ones are always angry, bitch, and usually quite ugly. The conservative ones are usually happy and attractive. It's almost like an ideology of perpetual discontent (liberalism/leftism) only attracts miserable people or something...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/07/20 04:37 PM
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Women dominate society and its standards so you're saying the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 04:09 PM
0

That is also women's fault. They're the ones who pushed for no-fault divorce, they're the ones who have lobbied and voted for the welfare state that makes single motherhood financially feasible, and they're the ones who have cried and screamed and wailed until it became socially acceptable to pop out kids without a father in the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 03:34 PM
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And yet...isn't this exactly what men want? No. You're confusing how men have adapted to the realities of the post-degeneracy world with what men actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 03:32 PM
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Women have all the rights and power, women get to take most of the responsibility. Welcome to actual equality, toots.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 08:55 PM
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I consider marriage to be dead, so the only kids being born will be to single mothers, like how it is in the black community. Which is something China is greatly looking forward to as there's no way the US will remain a super power when the whole country looks like "those" parts of Chicago/Baltimore/Detroit/etc/etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 08:48 PM
10

Indeed they will. That sounds like something women should take into account when planning out their lives and making decisions regarding relationships and child-bearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 08:48 PM
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Yup. IMO there's a reason that every single successful society or culture has had what we consider the "nuclear family" as a part of the family structure - even if the family structure extended beyond that. Fathers are simply necessary for successful child rearing, and without them only a small percentage of exceptions will grow into non-delinquents.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 08:46 PM
5

And one day, for no reason at all...
/r/MGTOW30/07/20 12:56 AM
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BECAUSE THAT'S THE STANDARD THAT THE WOKESCOLD NEOPURITANS HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR THE BETTER PART OF A DECADE. You're just upset because now the "poor, innocent, never-do-anything bad" girls are getting hit by the same rules and that upsets you.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/07/20 09:25 PM
5

Welcome to 20 fucking 20. Thanks to the wokescold neopuritans and their war against nuance we have to leave the traditional means of exploring social boundaries in the past and stick to strictly-defined rules of etiquette and behavior. The fact that it's now being used to cut both ways instead of just as a bludgeon against men and boys is a good thing as equality is good.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/07/20 09:23 PM
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It's a troll, dude. It's a brand-new (as in, just made today) account with an over-the-top name and spewing over-the-top nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 01:31 AM
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The people it's highlighting and criticizing are the ones responsible for the devolution of women to the point where MGTOW is a viable alternative. That's how.
/r/MGTOW25/07/20 10:47 PM
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You misunderstand. "Diversity" has been redefined and is a code-word for something else.
/r/MGTOW22/07/20 03:58 PM
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That's a woman? Looks like a plumber - a guy plumber.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/07/20 10:50 PM
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lol, this is just sealioning at this point. I've explained my conclusions to a degree plenty sufficient for a casual discussion. Either make a counter claim and tell me what you think is more likely to be causal or just give up. Harping on "gimme links, gimme links" and pretending that unless I do I'm wrong is just sealioning to the nth degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 09:40 PM
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Yes. They're seeing that the reward isn't worth the effort or risk and so just doing what men do and doing something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 09:28 PM
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I established what I consider to be a causal relationship and why. You have to show that there is something with a stronger relationship if you want to prove my claim wrong. This is basic stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 09:28 PM
1

Like what? "Liberation" is what underlies literally all of those other things so I'm curious to see what your argument is that somehow invalidates mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 09:16 PM
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That's what the hobby-specific subs are for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 08:03 PM
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How about men and women who don't want to get married that early? Do you plan to force them to do so, or brainwash everyone to want this same ideal, or what? We brainwashed society into thinking that becoming a debt slave to gather credentials for an underpaid career was a good thing, we can spread the opposite message just as well. Never forget: happiness studies have proved that the sexual revolution and the opening of the workforce to women has been harmful to them and their happiness. Women'…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 07:58 PM
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Yes. If men aren't looking for relationships, or aren't looking for serious relationships, more women are going to find themselves without partners. Not to say that all the men "going their own way" are part of MGTOW, a lot of them are just independently "reading the room" and adjusting their behavior to the way society has changed. That adjustment winds up being the same behavior as what MGTOW teaches, so it seems like it has a bigger impact than it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 07:48 PM
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I have cyclist's legs, so same. Gotta' love a cardio activity that also covers leg day, tho.
/r/MGTOW17/07/20 07:09 PM
1

Yes.
/r/MGTOW13/07/20 10:47 PM
2

Hey - pagan can be good. New-wave "pagan" witchy-poo is shit, but I'd be plenty happy with an Odinist or a Slavic revival woman (think Masha Scream).
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/07/20 09:20 PM
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All the news about Trump is fake here in the US, too. Unless you look for alt-media or watch Fox you're just getting fed an unfiltered stream of pure bullshit.
/r/MGTOW10/07/20 08:30 PM
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She feels like she's "a year out from her value going out the window". Bitch, your value flew out the window years ago. It's been so long that the splat it left on the sidewalk has rotted into nothing more than a discolored stain on the sidewalk.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/07/20 10:54 PM
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Right? She claims 20, but that face screams 30 (or older).
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/06/20 05:05 AM
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*psst* it's because they have been lying to you about what it's all about
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 04:44 AM
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Just remember to be prepared for the temper tantrum. If you thought the Floyd riots were bad, the reelection riots will be way worse.
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 04:42 AM
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Refreshingly all the top comments seem to be telling him that this is a massive red flag and he needs to GTFO.
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 10:05 PM
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The solution is to end the war on men-only spaces and allow men to have a place to go to talk with other men about their issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 05:07 PM
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I did answer the question. The problem is a societal one, the change needs to be at that level as well. Basically, we need to bring back slut shaming. Make it unacceptable for women to choose to be part of an informal harem for a top-20% man and people will be able to pair up again. Men can't do this, it's women who are the gatekeepers of sex and thus women who have the power here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 04:48 PM
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Stop with the defense of the sisterhood and start calling your own out for their bad behavior. If you think they're doing wrong then speak up. If the caring really is as widespread as is often claimed then that should shut down the new social direction that's causing these problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 04:29 PM
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But this sub seems to equals caring with action. Because words are wind, only action matters. I don't care what you say, I care what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 02:30 AM
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Again, I'm a guy lol. Uh huh, whatever you say, hon. toxic lol, says the one engaging in all the toxicity. Yes, yes, DARVO harder, dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:36 PM
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Keep your hands to yourself and ask them about themselves. So ... completely ignore the point of escalating things to the dating level? Oh, wait, then y'all cry and whine about them "evil, muh-soggy-knee-istic migtows". So what do you want? We're not talking about trying to rip her pants off, we're talking going for a hug or maybe a kiss at the end of a date. If you grow up and have a nice dinner where you talk and don't touch you won't have any of those bizarre situations come true.. Yeah, seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:22 PM
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Ah, you're intentionally missing my point to cling to your proved-false narrative. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:08 PM
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My objection is that this isn’t advice. Then why does it take the form of advice? The platitudes are given as instructions ("just be yourself", "most girls want nice guys", etc) which is what advice is. That it's not sincere is the problem. When it comes from friends and family they probably genuinely do believe you’re worthy of love and sex And yet what they're saying to do makes young men not worthy of it due to the incredible distance between what's being said and what women actually want. Li…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:49 PM
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The point is that you couldn't. If men didn't want to give what your predecessors asked for and demanded there's not a damned thing that could be done about it. Those are the simple facts of human physiology.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:36 PM
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Men view these as lies when they’re not meant to be taken as genuine advice. I do believe that insincere advice falls into the category of "lies", so what's your objection? And remember that this is often given to youths by people who are in positions of authority/respect, so people they've been trained to listen to and trust. It’s just me[a]n[t] to cheer up a dude who’s bummed about not getting women. I'm assuming that's what you meant to write, and will answer accordingly. The problem is that …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:30 PM
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I think I initially misinterpreted what you were using "platitudes" to refer to. If you meant that the platitudes are what young men are told in order to turn them away from "bad" (read: actually successful) tactics then those platitudes are harmful and waving them off as harmless platitudes is simply incorrect as they are by their nature not harmless. Telling young men that they must follow the "accepted" (and proven-ineffective) path is harmful no matter how it's done, so waving it off as "pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:15 PM
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Uh, that has nothing to do with what I originally wrote. I was describing the way behaviors outside the bullshit are treated which is how young men get "encouraged" to continue using the bullshit that they see doesn't work. If those are platitudes then you're way underplaying how damaging platitudes are when given to young men in their formative years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 05:00 PM
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A clumsy date that can get you accused of sexual assault or arrested?? Yes. Don't grab or touch anyone, especialllly if it's just a date lol. Don't play games where you force a guy to have to guess your intents, lol. It's that easy, yet women as a whole flatly refuse to make that one little change that would give them everything they claim to want. These seem like fears from someone whose only watched movies. Uh, this stuff happens to even high-value celebrities, this is news-covered fact. I get…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:46 PM
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Considering we completely reworked society to address their problems with it and that most of modern society is focused on dealing with the problems women claim to have today, I'd say yes. If men didn't care then none of the changes that feminism pushed for would've been allowed to happen and you'd still basically be property.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:43 PM
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Ah, you live in an alternate reality. Sorry, didn't mean to waste time on the crazy person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:39 PM
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Get labeled a "creep" and have it blasted on social media, have a clumsy date and get accused of sexual assault and possibly even get arrested (and again get it blasted all over social media). Getting totally socially ostracized for making what used to be accepted as part of the trial-and-error process you yourself defended.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:36 PM
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And yet you can't come up with a single rebuttal, just an alternate way of saying "I don't like this, shut up!". I know having your religion challenged is upsetting, but try to actually think about why it's criticized before just plugging your ears and running away.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:30 PM
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Most of that is platitudes Expand. Don't just use a "shut up" word here, expand on why you think this. Discuss, don't just ignore and pontificate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:29 PM
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Or it changed. That's what I said. Trial and error with core concepts is even better lol, its easier to fix and see what works and doesn't work regarding broad ideas and generalizations. If we allowed trial and error, sure. Of course a young man who "errors" is likely to have his life ruined by it in today's matriarchy, so your entire premise is flawed thanks to all the work that's been put into bubble-wrapping women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:28 PM
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While absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, until evidence is collated and analyzed we and simply ignore the evidence-less supposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 04:26 PM
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I would forgive men if they [...], and youth fetishization in favor of the female imperative (which is what’s best for the gene pool and families and children). The actual statistics prove this 100% wrong. Since letting women take the reigns of the social end of society children have become worse off in pretty much every measure and society itself is coming apart at the seams (which is also bad for children).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:50 PM
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Everyone’s along for this ride though for the first time. That’s how we learn, no ones handed a manual. That's due to a failure of parenting. There used to be a manual, then it got labeled "evil" and thrown out. The trial and error portion used to be about the details, not the core concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:47 PM
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But...why is there no shame in getting laid as a boy but a girl must guard hers ? Because the more sexual partners a woman has the less likely she is to be able to have a stable long-term relationship. There have been studies that show this. AFAIK there are no such studies for men. So the reasoning is to try to set her up for a happier life in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:45 PM
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They believe bullshit because they choose to. They believe the bullshit because they're told relentlessly that doing anything that isn't in line with the bullshit is bad and evil and wrong and sometimes even that it's illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:43 PM
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If women can figure things out for themselves, why can’t men? Because "don't be fat" is a lot easier to figure out than "be muscular, be confident or even arrogant, ignore what women say, ignore everything you've ever been told" is a lot more to figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:42 PM
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Really? It’s not about teaching a “harsh truth” about women that was “denied” to men? It is. It's also about teaching men how to succeed in light of this new information, and most of that revolves around improving and altering the self in order to succeed by the actual rules of the game instead of the false rules that were told to them all their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 03:39 PM
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Almost as if there's a reason that all the great civilizations kept them constrained or something...
/r/MGTOW24/05/20 11:06 PM
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She's a 4 trying to land an 8+. That's why she's failing.
/r/MGTOW24/05/20 09:27 PM
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I have the sister bike to that (XSR900) and hot damn is that triple a good engine. Enough low-end torque to make low speeds and stop-and-go tolerable, enough revs to go way faster than is sensible, and damned near as smooth as an I4.
/r/MGTOW24/05/20 09:07 PM
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Precisely. They spent decades "trying out" different guys and couldn't find one to stick to? That sounds like a "them" problem.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/20 08:49 PM
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But when did confidence and sexual maturity become so unattractive? Uh, since always. There's a reason the Bible (which is two thousand years old) instructs a man to "remember [his] young wife". The reason old married men stay with their old wives is respect for her contribution to their home and family that they spent their youth on. Without that history there's no reason for a man to give a single shit about an old woman.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/20 08:14 PM
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They are. Bad parenting results in kids learning everything about social interactions from schools/teachers and tv/movies. Those are the places that teach boys that being a "nice guy" is the way to get girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 10:30 PM
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RMV is not equivalent to SMV. Just because he'll fuck you doesn't mean you're actually worthy his commitment. That's about as simple as I can put it. When you're being told to "date down" what you're actually being told is "date within the range of your RMV". It's very easy for a 9/10 SMV to be a 4/10 RMV based on things like personality and behavior and lack of traits that act as a complement to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:11 AM
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"Niche"? There have been multiple articles in recent years in major mainstream outlets asking that very question. If it wasn't happening then they wouldn't be reporting on it. And that's without getting into all the collections of things like tinder profiles and reddit and twitter threads that all contain the same "big question" that get made in subs meant for cataloging them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:07 AM
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Or are Beta Brads wising up to their place in the hierarchy and saying "no thanks"? Or are there just too many successful degreed women now and not enough successful degreed men for her to find her socially "equal or better" man? It's these two in concert. Thanks to the internet giving us what amounts to virtual men's clubs we can see and learn from other men who have had to learn lessons the hard way, which lowers the supply of available men. Since women (mostly) refuse to "date down" the degre…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:05 AM
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No, she has an inflated sense of RMV. SMV is just who you can fuck, RMV is who you can get commitment from. The mistake most people make is to assume the SMV and RMV are equal. They aren't. SMV affects RMV, but there's so much else to RMV beyond SMV that SMV is not in any way a good indicator of RMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:02 AM
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The 800 pound gorilla in the room - has the feminist imperative to have women sexually liberated and adapt the promiscuity that men display been good for women? Happiness studies show that the answer is a resounding "no". Not only has women's average happiness fallen continuously since they were "liberated", but just a few years ago it fell below the men's average (which has been mostly steady with a slight upward trend). Now when you remember that post-Suffrage feminism was almost entirely driv…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 04:59 AM
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The "dry spell" is that he can't get himself an 8+ that night and so goes for a 5 or 6 for the night. Or he doesn't want to put in the effort to get the 8+ so goes with the 5 or 6 since, due to him being Chad, it takes him basically zero effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 04:54 AM
1

Funny that colonialism is over and has been for around a century at this point. Well, western colonialism is, anyway. Ironically what you just said is an argument against immigration from most cultures into the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:10 PM
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Well for starters it's the only culture that actually believes in individual liberty. Basically all of our social "progress" is only possible in our cultures because all the other ones would scoff (at best) and not do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:07 PM
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Individual liberty is a concept that only western cultures value. Replace western culture and you lose individual liberty anyway. Given that choice the better option is the one that involves curbing it instead of losing it altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:00 PM
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Or we could stop capital from being able to move around that freely and force them to actually put down roots in a country where they wish to use their capital to make more money. That's an option, too. It's just one that the neoliberals on both sides of the aisle don't want us to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:58 PM
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Because the middle east doesn't share the western view on rights or values. If they did they wouldn't need to leave their home for our countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 08:57 PM
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Sorry girl, but this is what you (or at least your contemporaries and predecessors) wanted. Don't cry about it, enjoy getting exactly what you asked for.
/r/MGTOW13/05/20 07:26 PM
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Not after this.
/r/MGTOW13/05/20 04:53 PM
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So the same advice the pro-life crowd give to women when they're trying to argue why abortion isn't needed and thus should be banned. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:40 AM
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"Only if you choose to" What, you gonna leave the country? If you're fucked up and weak enough to be willing to bail on your entire life to avoid supporting YOUR child, well... you're a trash human, and that's why nobody loves you. Hey, if I don't get a choice in whether it's born then I don't have any responsibility for it. Her body, her choice, after all. Choice brings responsibility. Sorry your demands are actually being acceded to. Women run background checks on men they date before they agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 09:23 PM
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It doesn't, though. You will have to pay. Only if I choose to. And normal, healthy women reject men who have preexisting children that they've abandoned. And how do they do that if they don't know about them? Actions --> consequences. Only for men, and even that's changing as they adopt more women-like behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 09:19 PM
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We become what the world around us requires us to be. Having almost no power over reproduction removes us from having to take responsibility over it. Welcome to the consequences of what you asked for.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 09:12 PM
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^ And here we see the double standards that women cling to. Her body, her choice, my responsibility. Then they wonder why so many men are viewing them ever more cynically.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 09:06 PM
10

Her body, her choice, her problem. Y'all wanted all the power, well that means you should be expected to handle the consequences of that power.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:39 PM
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Her body, her choice, her responsibility. You wanted the power, no crying about being expected to uphold the associated responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:37 PM
1

And prove that you are not only dependent on men, but so needy that you need to drain men in aggregate to support you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:36 PM
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Funny how neither OP nor any of the other women have anything to say to that. As much as they hate it they know that they can't actually succeed on a level playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:35 PM
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This is like a race to the bottom type scenario. Everyone is looking out for their personal best interests and there is nothing to stop them. Nail, head. Preventing this was one of the primary goals of the traditional family structure. And why would we want to prevent this? Because mindless hedonism and "me me me" mentalities aren't conducive to building large-scale things like societies and whatnot. It's evident by the widespread unhappiness and relationship failures. Natural consequence of a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:32 PM
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The ones who control the legal system are part of the same group that controls the media and academia that are pushing all this crap, that's how. And it's the same group that was pushing all this stuff 100 years ago.
/r/MGTOW12/05/20 07:13 PM
2

This dries up the market for low effort men and as we can see, men respond to withdrawal of sex. Not necessarily in the way you want them to, though. See Japan's Herbivore Men for an example of how this can backfire.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:03 PM
1

mawp mawp mawp Yeah, not messing with a goalpost-shifter who tried to gaslight us. Nice try, you lose, cry moar.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 07:45 PM
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The source you cited, which I’m certain you have not read as a woman wrote it, is a case study that is about petty crimes first of all. And there go the goalposts! You provide two cherry-picked examples, I counter with an actual study, and now you change up what "crime" is. Sad. Normal, but sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 07:18 PM
7

Here's Huffpo with a report on a study showing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 06:28 PM
2

That's why they have to put so much effort into pushing the "it's about equality" lie. Societal-level gaslighting is hard, but if they don't do it they'll find their support vanish in an instant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:56 PM
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Females have lower arrest rates than males for virtually all crime categories except prostitution. They also get sentenced so much lighter for crimes that the gender sentencing gap makes the racial sentencing gap look nonexistent. Thus the arrest rates for women are just as (if not more) likely to represent the "women are wonderful" effect than any reduced rate of criminality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:55 PM
4

We're not talking about sane people, though. We're talking about people with severe delusions who, instead of being treated, are having their delusions fed and validated by a sick society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:53 PM
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I'm just curious where the huge fear of rape is from, considering the 1 in 5 is a false statistic. Women don't need things like "facts" to be whipped into a frenzy. They're herd creatures, once one of them starts to frenzy they'll all join in without question.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/05/20 03:46 PM
5

Additionally, take a look at the Medium writer, Abe Gaustad, and his article history. I believe "yikes" covers that history. Damn.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/05/20 11:01 PM
2

You're not wrong. Tradcons were the ones who let feminists have power and thus are responsible for all the damage they've done.
/r/MGTOW04/05/20 09:27 PM
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When they don't think there are men around to hear/see women are much more likely to speak the truth.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/04/20 10:47 PM
3

However we have better little squadrons, my grandpa used to say, to do everything in the world you just need a tight team of 5 guys in a bad mood... Having worked on teams like that in the past I'd have to agree 100%. Most productive work I've ever done.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 07:18 PM
3

TBF the (theoretical) purpose of the sub is to help people (both men and women) understand what they've been doing wrong that has them single in their thirties. They should be (though often aren't) mature enough to handle hard truths at that age - especially if they want things to actually change for them.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/20 03:03 AM
0

Who says you have to? Hell, you could introduce your children to those hobbies and aspirations as they get older. Your inability to find solutions that require more than zero thought is a "you" problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 03:25 AM
4

Inflation is not caused by increasing the supply of labor. Well someone doesn't understand economics at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 10:52 PM
1

What ever you say, Ivan.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 02:49 AM
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It's literally why stuff like Red Pill exists. This is a known fact, red pill teachings are a response to this change to try to get men up to speed on the new rules of the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 02:48 AM
1

Nah, I don't truck with gaslighting Russian trolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 02:47 AM
1

And here comes the sub's resident rules-exempt troll to spew random bullshit and conspiracy theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 02:39 AM
2

It is senseless - but instincts usually are. We are biologically programmed at the deepest levels to seek out a partner who is optimal for producing many healthy offspring. Same reason women want tall, muscular, and capable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:46 PM
1

Agreed. Carefully limited immigration with a naturalization process focused on integration would solve pretty much all of the issues with immigration.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 09:06 PM
1

Sure - but it's still a stark difference from Asians. With a 50/50 split we really can't be bringing in more if we don't want to end up having our culture overridden and replaced by one like theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 08:31 PM
1

110 and dry beats 110 and humid with literal tons of steel flying overhead dripping chromic acid on you. Sure, tomato picking sucks, but so does most manual labor. Doesn't change the fact that people here could do it if the pay wasn't being undermined by a de-facto slave class.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 08:14 PM
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Back when I was an uneducated laborer? Sure, so long as the pay was competitive. FFS, I willingly worked with caustic carcinogens and dangerously heavy payloads of steel back then, picking tomatoes out in the sun and fresh air would've been an improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 08:07 PM
1

We don't need them, though. They're mostly un/low-skilled laborers and we aren't a low-skill driven economy anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:45 PM
1

To an extent. IIRC they are still less liberty-minded and vote for more authoritarian policies than white Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:44 PM
1

My argument is that it's too late to reverse. Divides like that are fast to grow but nearly impossible to heal. And since there's no indication that the mainstream focus on what divides us is going to slow down, much less stop, we need to look towards dealing with the result of the divisiveness efforts instead of clinging to a past that's dead and buried.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:54 PM
1

Motivation, yes, but if they were truly beneficial for our country they'd be able to build something worth staying for in their own. Motivation isn't enough. It's a good trait, but not enough to make them worth letting in en-masse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:36 PM
1

The Balkans was an example of trying to do what you want and how it ends up when the pressure grows too great to contain. Same with Yugoslavia. The US is treading down the same well-worn path. The only way to make it work is the Roman/early-US model where people are left to (by and large) self-govern without being forced to interact with those they don't want to. Divisions happen when we place our differences over our commonalities. Hence why the several decades of "celebrating diversity" instea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 06:34 PM
1

My thinking is that the more we come together, the less we’d try to destroy each other. That experiment has actually been tried. Brazil had legally-enforced race-mixing and it's one of the most violent and segregated countries in the world. So forcing everyone together doesn't work to solve conflict and we have empirical proof of that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:47 PM
1

What's stopping all the people who feel this way from just moving to Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota and Wyoming. The fact that the federal government and certain factions with extremely disproportionate influence in all levels of government will push policy changes to fill those states with other people. This stuff has already happened, policies have been created and passed to force-diversify "insufficiently diverse" parts of the country.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:37 PM
1

I used to mention this to white nationalists regularly just to irk them. I don't know why, I've never seen any who would disagree with that. Different races having different traits is literally one of the cornerstones of their ideology. I can't imagine you "irked" too many of them by pointing those facts out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:35 PM
1

If humanity compartmentalized, completely separated, and miraculously without encroaching into each other’s space and starting wars, we’d diverge into separate species. So? Why is this inherently bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:32 PM
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The moderates got out once the doxxing and physical attacks started. Ironically the extremists won because of the actions of the people trying to shut down the budding extremism. That and they have had success taking over existing conservative movements and parties. They don't need to try to form their own at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:31 PM
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You're operating on a view that's at least 40 years out of date at this point. We no longer have "Americans", we have a collection of hypenated-Americans. "Speak[ing] the language" is now considered a racist demand and/or dogwhistle. "Live the culture" has been explicitly and actively rejected. And as for "share the damned values", the value sets of the factions in this country have basically zero overlap. In 2020 the country of the USA is a coalition of wholly separate nations, hence why our po…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:25 PM
1

Anyway, TRP has strong links to the alt-right and neoreactionaryism and everyone who has been around long enough knows this. Which shouldn't surprise anyone. The entire point of TRP is breaking free of "mainstream" conditioning about women and relationships. Unsurprisingly, people willing to question one form of conditioning are also willing to question others. That's why there seems to be a "pipeline" from one to the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:16 PM
2

That's not who is coming so you're simply wrapping yourself in a comforting fantasy world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:14 PM
1

i am very muscular i did track in college Do you keep up the same level of exercise now or has the tone turned to flab? There's a world of difference between 5'5"/130# and extremely active and 5'5"/130# couch potato.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 08:02 PM
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I've gone on a dates where a purposely pick a guy who is 5/10, in hopes he won't be some sort of Chad. And these men, somehow, do think they are Chad! That's because those men have learned that acting like not-Chad doesn't work. You're reaping the rewards of your predecessors who decided to throw out the old rule book and now have to deal with men who have adapted to the new. On the topic of your question, I think that the deliberate destruction of our old community institutions is as much to bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 07:57 PM
2

Exceptions are irrelevant. They exist, but not in enough numbers to make the general-case statement untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:48 PM
2

Can someone please explain to me guys think morality should be rewarded with sex? Because that's what we are raised to believe. Media, schools, family, church (if you go), they all preach the "women want nice/moral men" line despite it being objectively untrue. They put in the effort to uphold their end of the bargain and so expect the other side to do so as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:45 PM
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If that's the case it still means that men shouldn't be trying to be nice as it's at best irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:16 PM
1

Sure, but since the example used in the OP is of a particularly bad man (like, wife-beater bad) I was sticking to that framing. Especially since the quoted segments indicate that the women knew he was an abuser and went for him anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:15 PM
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You chose that example to use in your post, it not being your exact words is irrelevant. If you didn't support what the quote said you wouldn't have used it. My point is that bad people can be sexually successful if they are: fun , charismatic and good looking . Except that quote points out that the guy is known to be an abuser and they go for him anyway. That proves that being "nice" is a drawback - hell, just not being an abusive asshole is a drawback according to your own example.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 06:02 PM
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Or to spell it out very carefully, Henry clearly has no trouble attracting partners. He’s been married five times and had multiple extra-marital affairs and pre-marital partners, many of whom were well aware of his past domestic violence convictions and knew exactly what they were getting into. Tada, found it. The example of the super-successful-with-women guy is pretty much textbook "bad person".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:48 PM
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The more pervasive the propaganda the harder it is to break, and we're talking about some of the most pervasive propaganda that's out there right now. being fun, charismatic and maximizing your looks Of that list only the last one is in-line with your post. You yourself highlighted that the successful men aren't "fun" and "charismatic", they're outright bad people. Let's stick to discussing the points you raised instead of moving the goalposts, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:38 PM
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The "nice guy" has created this world in his head were niceness is the main trait girls should sexually select for. This seems to be your core point and, to be blunt, it's entirely inaccurate. That world in his head was created by the pervasive propaganda that men get inundated in since early childhood. Between media, school, and even women in his life (family and family friends) he's been told since before he could write that being "nice" is the way to behave and that good things will happen to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:18 PM
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It's not just cope (though that is part of it), a lot of it is the fact that today's single moms were raised during an absolute flood of "single mom good, single mom stronk" propaganda. They actually believe it because they've been deeply programmed their whole life to believe it. The current generation's women are the end result of decades of efforts on the part of people with less-than-good intentions.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/04/20 03:58 PM
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Trump is wholly owned by the same people pushing all this. He's an economic populist civnat, he's not interested in fixing the stuff we cover in this sub.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/04/20 03:50 PM
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She's also a part of a fairly close community and one that talks. She knows that now that her secret's out she's never going to find a man of his (financial) caliber again. Not only did she lose her wage slave, she'll never get one at that level again and she knows it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/04/20 05:34 PM
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Happiness studies show that they didn't have to "find happiness", most of them were made happy by those things. That's really the only way to interpret the fact that women's happiness has been on a continuous decline since their "liberation".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 04:50 PM
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And if it isn't domestic culture that changes to implement that it'll be enforced by the culture strong enough to supplant it. It's not hard to see a strongly patriarchal culture overthrowing modern, weak, Western culture. In some places it will be the reestablishment of traditionalism, others it will be an outside culture (Islam is a strong contender right now). The only thing I'm sure of is that Western culture in its current form cannot survive in the long run, it's simply far too unstable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 04:43 PM
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I have - and I have also seen how the "right-thinking" women around them turned on them the way the mainstream turns on women who choose a family life without going through the "make themselves hopelessly jaded through fucking hot-but-bad boys" phase. They're out there, but they are 100% bucking the modern trend of what's considered "right".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 04:35 PM
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It's on amazon prime if you want to re-watch during lockdown.
/r/MGTOW03/04/20 04:34 PM
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The US (and Western Europe) will have their current culture supplanted by the time a few generations passes. Whether by less-weak cultures taking it over from the outside or a backlash from the inside the current weak Western culture will not survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 04:29 PM
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Your "study" is neither replicated nor has particularly valid methodology. It would only be a valid study concept if reddit usernames weren't free and easy to change. Since that's not true any effort to track the "contributors" is fallacious and completely unreliable. Nice try, but invalid sources don't actually present any facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 04:26 PM
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Nail on the head. It's not that mean can't, it's that for many the cost (both financially and effort-wise) simply isn't worth the reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 03:46 PM
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The "again" is due to the context of the episode. Wilson is getting back together with his (first) ex-wife, hence the "again".
/r/MGTOW02/04/20 05:06 PM
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But women want to be well rounded people, like men have been allowed to be forever. Except they don't as proved by their own actions. They want all the freedoms, none of the responsibilities that come with them. You can say otherwise all you want but the well-document behavior of women at large prove you claims to be lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 04:00 PM
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Her fear is that if he can get his rocks off elsewhere that he'll realize that she doesn't bring anything else of value into his life and leave her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/20 03:55 PM
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They're mistaking "can't" for "see no reason to". Not my kids, not my responsibility.
/r/MGTOW01/04/20 05:56 PM
3

Now that's just rude to Meg.
/r/MGTOW25/03/20 06:20 PM
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High-paying, high-prospect job and in a city with a lot of dating options but no one (so far) worth sacrificing my freedom and independence for. Same. Why crash my standard of living just to make some "rEfOrMeD" party slut happy? I'll stick to my high-end guns, guitars, and cars TYVM.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/03/20 10:07 PM
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Half of this sub is about exposing the lies told by and about women. It both serves to explain to men why they shouldn't worship women and serves as an explanation to any women who pass through why men - especially good men - are getting harder to sucker in with their lies.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/20 07:37 PM
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What's in it for the men? Why should they go out of their way to protect you or treat you like a queen when they aren't getting anything in return? That's what's missing here. The protection, the near-worship, that's an amount of effort that's simply not worth it if there's no benefit. If you want to be equal to men then you have to understand that you get the same treatment as men give other men - indifference.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 09:17 PM
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And the leaders of the 2nd wave feminists were mostly lesbians, many of whom have a known hatred of men. Not surprising that their ideas of an improvement didn't work for straight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:43 PM
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I would say that the studies showing declining women's happiness since the sexual revolution show that your hypothesis is likely correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 08:15 PM
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Sure - but the numbers of those Chad-lites and upper-tier non-Chads is shrinking due to the imbalance between the amount of effort for the reward. That's why we're starting to see the increasing numbers of sexless women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 07:42 PM
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If someone treats their underlings badly at work then they aren't a good person, be it a man or a woman Agreed. Some roles, though, require a more combatative/hardline mentality, though, and they need to be able to drop their work mindset at home. I think that's what women want too In a sense, thought how that support manifests is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 06:13 PM
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If the situation continues on and continues to grow our society will be supplanted by one that doesn't have the weaknesses that absolute freedom has caused in ours. Whether it goes fast or is slow and drawn out I don't know, but odds are that Western society is on its way out due to not ensuring its own propagation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 06:03 PM
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Right, which means that Chad gets to be the choosy one and that means that a lot of Chad-chasers are getting ignored just as thoroughly as those Chad-chasers are ignoring their actual SMV peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:57 PM
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Tinder. "Swipe right" means "interested". If women are only showing interest in guys out of their league then those women need to adjust their standards if they want to get laid. Granted I think a lot of those same guys you point out that are just withdrawing into vidya and porn are also not bothering with online dating since they've all heard the stats and know that all they're going to do is make themselves depressed when they get no matches. We're now at a catch-22 point: even if women adjust…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:50 PM
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Those women are perfectly free to swipe right on sub-8/10 guys if they aren't able to get those 8/10+ guys to hook up with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:44 PM
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You're essentially worthless unless you toil in the gym for hours on end or toil at work until you're making an above-average income. This is an "and" statement, not an "or". Lots of guys did the "toil at work" thing and found out that without the bod it's still utterly irrelevant. You don't toil your way to the yacht tier of wealth and that's the minimum to be able to pull women without having looks as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:32 PM
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I think most men would, so long as she doesn't treat her partner the way she treats underlings at work. In general what men want in a partner is someone supportive and cooperative and what their other half does in the workplace really just isn't important to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:28 PM
1

Sounds like the average Craigslist WRX owner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 05:02 PM
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Or I (and many others) don't want to be "on" 24/7 and would rather not have the same level of competition at home as we have at work. The way you describe it just seems like men are insecure and really only need a woman who isn't as smart or smarter than them. And this outs you as a woman LARPing here and not actually a man as you imply with your first line.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:57 PM
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Women don't date down success-wise. Men will. That creates an imbalance since a successful man will be just as happy with the waitress from the local diner as with a corporate peer, whereas a successful woman won't be happy with the local mechanic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:55 PM
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Basically most men couldn't give a shit less about a woman's career achievements when it comes to looking for a gf/wife. Men will (in general) be more likely to choose the 22 year old waitress with a pleasant demeanor and decent figure over the 35 year old executive with an aggressive/competitive demeanor and a good-for-her-age figure. Due to spending her prime man-getting years building a career and the fact that women don't date down success-wise it means that the career woman looking to settl…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/20 04:53 PM
1

Women are choosing to take on that extra burden. Not men's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 11:06 PM
1

Correlation is not causation. Nor does it preclude it. I'd bet social media is producing a lot of that unhappiness in general but especially for women who are more socially oriented. Except this trend has been observed starting in the 70s, a good 40 years before social media became what it is today. In fact it tracks remarkably well to the women's lib movement, making that a much more probably causal factor than social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 04:31 AM
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Isn't that what "I suggest you get an inflatable love doll and a large screen TV in your bedroom hooked up to PornHub." is doing? Yet that comment is still there for me to copy from.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 04:02 AM
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Women are the ones choosing to take on more burdens, it seems rather odd to blame men for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 03:10 AM
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Are you really unwilling to acknowledge that it's a mutual choice and therefore a mutual responsibility? But it's not mutual - like you said, biology isn't fair. Add the legal inequalities and the fact is that women have more involvement and more control and the burden lies more on their side.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 03:09 AM
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A man can opt for blow jobs, anal, handjobs, doubling up on other bc methods Literally all of these are as much her choice as his. It's not a privilege to have to choose between aborting your child, permanently altering your body with a pregnancy, or becoming a single mom/staying involved with the wrong man. It is a privilege. The privilege is having the choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 02:36 AM
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That is an interesting point about the new questions. I'd assume that men, too, are getting asked new questions and yet their happiness has remained largely level over the same time period. Life is fantastic for me as a young woman. Of course, being a young woman who isn't an absolute cave troll means you're on easy mode until time catches up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 02:31 AM
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I missed that. I went back and read closer and it looks like what little evidence they have does support that it exists and that created an outcry. The outcry criticized the initial studies but I saw nothing about them actually being proved false by subsequent research.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 02:20 AM
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Biology isn't fair. Correct. Women have all the power here, they should bear all the responsibility. Why men think being stuck alone with kids you can't afford is in any way a privilege is baffling to me though. It's not. The privilege is having all the options available to prevent that situation from before sex to after birth and every stage in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 02:12 AM
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So? They aren't my kids, I have zero reason to give them anything. Women want to be free and independent, then they can pay for their own damned kids. but let's be real, we're not just paying for the mom's mistake, we're paying for the dad's. Nope. Men have exactly two reproductive control options, women have all the rest - including options for post-birth. They have the power, they have the responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 11:39 PM
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How in the flying fuck is this "not civil"? It's literally a Hitchens quote. Sorry that I give a lame attempt at an appeal to authority fallacy the appropriate treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 11:37 PM
1

That's a lot of words to say "stop using evidence that blows women's gaslighting efforts out of the water".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 11:30 PM
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Protecting women from the consequences of their actions by subsidizing the children is coddling women. Why should it be my responsibility to pay for a child when I didn't even get to fuck the one who made it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 11:24 PM
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As I said to you last time: that which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed out of hand. Link or GTFO.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:32 PM
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Link? I gave one that shows otherwise. Hitchens' Razor says that your claim can be ignored here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:30 PM
1

Have you looked at this program called "the news"? Like, ever? Because we're already seeing things starting to break down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:20 PM
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Don't waste your time. They're a troll on a throwaway that's proved that they're only here to spread hate and bile. Tag them so you can ignore and downvote and not waste time engaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:08 PM
1

lol, so #triggered by facts. Just let it go, being wrong happens. The only "bad" thing is to refuse to change yourself for the better after getting proved wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:07 PM
1

Agreed on all counts. I think another piece of it (and the piece that started the decline off in the beginning) is that jobs suck. Sure, there are positives to not being a dedicated housewife, but the working world sucks bigtime and women are learning that firsthand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:05 PM
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lol, someone's #triggered that the facts blew their claim out of the water. How sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:03 PM
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According to The Guardian (no fan of the manosphere) you'd be wrong. Women have been getting steadily less happy since they were "liberated". Funny, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 10:03 PM
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And for those who question this, here's proof from a left-approved source for the decline of women's happiness in the time since feminism started to "win" and change society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 09:59 PM
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Because in the 21st Century women have all the options for birth control while men have one, and women have the final say in whether a child is actually born or not. Pregnancy, especially a full-term one, is 100% the responsibility of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 09:53 PM
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While all that may be true, it's also a true fact that women are less happy now than pre-sexual-revolution. It looks to me like women literally don't know what they want and giving them what they say they wanted is hurting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 09:41 PM
1

You're the one ranting and railing and crying about the "good" men (the ones with the fat paychecks and stable careers and all that) not being interested in you. Sorry, but why offer what we slaved for to someone who wasn't there to help with the building and has started their value-loss stage of life?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 09:39 PM
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That's not about it at all. Dual mating strategy is something that is actively avoided in the social "sciences" due to them being populated by the very activists who created the current state. The absolute last thing they want is for the "inconvenient" ideas of the online male spaces to be validated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 09:37 PM
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If you see me as this bad why should I feel bad for any privilege I have over you? You shouldn't. You also shouldn't lie and pretend you're part of some oppressed class when you yourself admit that the privilege exists. Be honest, that's all we ask. Honesty is the cornerstone of being a good person, and we should all want to be good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 09:31 PM
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If you're better than a chuck and fuck by a hot guy, well.... show us. Prove it. Preach! Actions speak louder and are more true than words, if you want to show someone your value then you have to show it, because as well all know words are wind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 09:29 PM
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Reading their comments and the tone provided by their wordings I'm leaning towards "troll" or "woman roleplaying" (i.e. "troll").
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 06:47 PM
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Here'a a Guardian piece that shows men's happiness is higher than women's and that women's has fallen since the sexual revolution and feminism winning. I misremembered, men's happiness stayed stable. Relative to women's it's up, but that's because women are getting less happy and have been since roughly the 70s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 06:46 PM
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or there's some serious fault in the overwhelming majority of women around you. If you want to call normal women's attraction criteria for initial attraction a "serious fault" then that's on you. The problem is that what makes a woman want to get with a man and what makes them want to stay with a man are rather disconnected. It's called the dual mating strategy and is a topic covered quite thoroughly in spaces where men can learn what women are actually attracted to. Why do you mention "a space …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:19 AM
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Because it. doesn't. work. It's literally the advice that creates the oh-so-hated "nice guys". It's provably bad advice and, in a space like this, absolutely not being offered in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 06:45 AM
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Because their anger isn't justified because they are the ones who changed the rules. You don't get to change things up and then get mad when people decide they don't want to play by your new rules or get mad when they don't know the rules they've never been taught.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 06:42 AM
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I can understand a bit of that but all of it seems misdirected Is it? The rules were rewritten by and for women. Second wave and onwards feminism is what rewrote the rules of the game, seems being mad at women is perfectly valid since they're the ones who drew up and pushed for the changes. Now I will agree that anger is unproductive, but that doesn't make it less justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 06:39 AM
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Well put, and sadly 100% accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 06:21 AM
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Good men are a rare breed. Natural selection in action. Being a "good man" doesn't work so men stop being them. Enjoy the bed, you made it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 06:20 AM
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Short version for where all the hurt and anguish you see comes from: The rules of the "game" were changed but men were taught according to the old playbook. What makes it worse is that half the people telling them to play by that book were the ones who knew they themselves weren't playing by it. When men find out they've been lied to they react as normal people do when they find out they've been subjected to a large-scale lie. *Boom*: hurt, anguish, and all the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 06:18 AM
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Did you work at listening to what she said? Did you work at complimenting her for no reason? Did you work at making her feel that YOU felt YOU were the luckiest guy on Earth to have found her? Literally exactly what "nice guys" do. Remind me again what the mainstream view of them by women is? You know all the work women put in every day to try and be as pretty as they can? Less time than a man who eats clean, spends time working out, and takes the time to develop attractive hobbies. Oh, and less…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 06:03 AM
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if you offer decent LTR, most women will chase you. Except that no, that doesn't work. Think about it: the loudly and frequently hated "nice guy" uses that exact tactic. He presents the things that women claim to want from an LTR and instead of having success he is mocked and derided and left to be alone. If your hypothesis was correct then the "nice guy" phenomenon wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 05:59 AM
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Just acknowledging that there's no point in continuing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 03:49 AM
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I don't see how you have more credibility than me! Yes, hence why trying to change your mind is pointless. You are too wrapped up in yourself to think you could be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 03:43 AM
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Well, who is to say that they don't apply to most? The fact that they are statistical outliers and you're literally just denying that without providing a shred of evidence to counter what anyone who actually paid attention in public school biology knows about sexaully-reproducing species. From my perspective, those with your view that sex is a basic need is what is the outlier Yes, and this is why you can be dismissed out-of-hand in this discussion. You are literally choosing to exist in an alte…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 01:48 AM
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The question is this a reality though? I mean, we are already seeing issues with HD and VR porn making men less willing to put forth the effort to find women and women taking issue with that as they find themselves alone. Sexbots will make that much much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 01:40 AM
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I hope you won't just dismiss me because of my age or gender. Not on all things, but on either the male experience or thing rooted in science your credibility is low. The first because of not being a man, the second because you've repeatedly dismissed science that is inconvenient to your point. I absolutely don't deny that humans are mammals and I don't think I said otherwise. I absolutely don't deny that the majority of humans do want intercourse/children. Could you point out to me more specifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 12:42 AM
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Sure you did - you just want to be a broodmare for a doctor. What you're getting wrong is that that doctor doesn't want another doctor, he wants a woman who can actually take care of a household and is young enough to bear healthy children.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 12:33 AM
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lol, delusion. Sad. You keep lying to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 12:31 AM
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Odds are you won't. You'll adapt your mind and become content with your new life because that's just how women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 12:30 AM
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Well since it's been proved that women view 80% of men as "below average" it's a safe assumption. Yet again: facts are facts, you lose. Of course you're just trolling as your absolute refusal to even consider countering evidence has made very clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 12:26 AM
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Well that's your decision. The fact is you might not get a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 12:24 AM
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Well if I am, then I think you are, too. How? By accepting that humans are mammals and have all the drives that all mammals do? No, you are simply wrong here. Sorry, but you're young and that's normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 12:23 AM
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I do truly believe that most men are capable of living out meaningful lives without sex. And I do truly believe you have zero footing to make such a statement, as indicated by your flair. It's also a fallacy to say it's about sex when it's about all the things that came with sex in a more traditional society. If it was just about sex we wouldn't be seeing similar issues arising in societies with legal prostitution, yet we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 12:22 AM
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But the UK isn't like that and never will be. Well no. You're comparing an Islamist extremist country to Western traditionalism and that's just not a valid comparison. When people here speak of returning to a more traditional culture they mean Western traditional, not Islamism. Those teaching are the teaching of societies which encourage men to be providers. Yes - they teach them to be quiet and subservient, exactly what women aren't attracted to. You are ahistorical. This from the person that k…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 12:20 AM
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Fact: women are the ones with the final say as to whether or not a child is born.
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre15/03/20 12:10 AM
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You're making the classic mistake that underpins most modern pseudoscience fields - including the ones from which feminism et. al. stem - and assuming that abnormalities and exceptions can be generalized to the population at large. They can't - they are abnormalities and not reflective in any way of humanity at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 12:06 AM
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She ain't "average", she's a single mom. Non-widow single moms have a hard cap of 5, and she ain't got a "10" body. Being a non-widow single mom is a straight-up 0.5x modifier.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/03/20 11:45 PM
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But there's 50/50 odds on whether she raises him to act in a way that will at least attract women or not. He's either going to be the criminal bad-boy and make plenty of new single moms or he's going to be the "nice guy" that she thinks she wants now that she's in family-raising mode and be doomed to loneliness. If he's lucky he'll be the first.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/03/20 11:42 PM
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It depends on whether I'm keeping myself distracted or not. The problem really only comes up when I look to the future and see nothing. No family, no kids, no grandkids, just an empty nothing. Ironically it's led to me basically stopping drinking because depressants, depression, and guns are a really really bad combination. So yeah, as long as I have suitable distractions and just don't think about it it's fine. Or it's been so long that my mind literally no longer works right. Legitimately not …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 11:32 PM
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No, not embracing sexual hedonism is the best option. But for whatever reason it seems that women are unwilling to do so without external structures to force them to (religion, actual patriarchal society, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 11:28 PM
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*reads OP's responses to this thread* Yeah, this wasn't posted in good faith. That much is more than clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 11:24 PM
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No, you are choosing to pretend that the link didn't support /u/sadomasochrist's point because you are committed to pretending that the problem doesn't real because that makes you happy. They provided evidence, you didn't, they win.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 11:21 PM
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Once the sex-bots reach the point where they have AI personalities that are convincing enough then that's where the problem starts to appear. It may not be a "real" person - but then again it can be better than a real person because you can get one without all the negative personality traits so common among real people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 11:14 PM
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The problem will come in when the portion of men who find that sufficient for their needs reaches a level where a sizable portion women are unable to find partners. Unless women become willing to be part of a harem they are going to find out that being lonely without choice sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 11:11 PM
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Depends on the type. We're also legalizing things because the normal means of trying to fight them haven't worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 11:02 PM
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I mean, we have the rise of incel mass killers. We have increasing religious extremism - especially with religions that promise paradise to zealots and martyrs and religions that promise a return to strict traditionalism. We have increasing political extremism, and especially among political movements that promise radical changes from our current system. The thing is that all these things are still below the critical level. They're still fairly rare. The reason we talk about them now and try to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 11:00 PM
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Well I view it less as "can't get laid" and more as a loneliness crisis. Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winnah! That's exactly what it is. Men aren't having problems due to not being able to get their rocks off - we have 4k VR porn that we can grab for free online, from what I've read the brain activation is the same as during casual sex. What men are missing is the deeper connection of a wife and of a family. That connection is also one of the biggest drivers that gets men to continue to provide a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:56 PM
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Men have so much more to live for than to have sex! Sure - like an actual relationship and a family. Also things that are on the decline and getting harder for a man to find. People can still live meaningful lives without ever having sex. Some small number? Sure. But to pretend that that's anywhere near normal for a species that reproduces sexually (and thus has all the hard-wired drives and instincts) is a straight-up lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:50 PM
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Source? Even if that were true, what exactly are you trying to say? That women are incapable? Correlation does not equal causation. You do realize that men are generally stronger and more aggressive, I assume. So it's not hard to see how they could come into power far more often than women do. The source is stuff I've read over my many years following this stuff. Unfortunately I don't tend to bookmark much and don't keep reddit account so I don't have the links on hand anymore. As for what I'm s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:48 PM
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Admit that most of feminism and the associated ideologies are harmful to society and leave them behind. Try to encourage people to return to a more traditional family and relationship structure. Stop encouraging women to spend their most valuable years avoiding serious relationships and stop encouraging men to act like women in order to attract women. Part of doing this is, yes, telling men to that if they want to deserve a woman in their lives then they need to treat her well and not be abusive…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:36 PM
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crime, war, terrorism, extreme politics, extremist religion IOW a short summary of all the things that are increasing in this and other Western countries at this very moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:33 PM
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Conversely societies which practice polygamy are some of the most war-torn, economically unstable places in the world Also, interestingly, often the least able to create their own technological advancements.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:32 PM
1

*raises hand* Still in the "figuring out which Eastern European language to learn" phase right now. Leaning ever-more-strongly towards Polish, but haven't committed yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:30 PM
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Yet. The entire point about these discussions is to look at the direction things are trending and (hopefully) try to alter our course before they reach the point where things begin to truly come apart. And as for whether they will or won't, well, the facts say "won't". Matriarchal societies never seem to advance past the mud-hut stage, and societies where women have the most choice in their path see some of the biggest discrepancies in the unpleasant-but-extremely-necessary fields. Since we know…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:28 PM
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It's not a question of them existing, it's a question of will the number of them increase to the point where it becomes an actual societal-scale problem. That's the risk with the current direction society's trending.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:24 PM
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Most of the 80% haven't given up or lost hope of improving themselves. That's what separates them from the bottom 30%. That bottom 30% are the ones who have given up completely or have no way of improving themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:22 PM
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So you're saying that women are incapable of jobs like these? Define "incapable" for us. Because physically and intellectually they can, sure, but then explain the sex/gender/whatever-we're-calling-it-today gap in those fields right here and now with our full legal equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:20 PM
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Mass shootings are trending upwards, or so we're told, so I wouldn't be so sure. Radicalization among young men is also trending upwards, and many of the radicalization groups promise changes that will have the result of solving the issues that current society has for young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:18 PM
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"Funnily" enough all three of those things you list appear to be happening. Yet instead of looking at underlying causes the only "acceptable" answer is to ratchet up the very things that are the underlying causes. And so the cycle continues.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:16 PM
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Because it literally is, just as with all animals that reproduce sexually. Break free from your brainwashing that has you convinced that humans are somehow not animals despite literally all the actually-valid science saying otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:13 PM
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Almost every mass shooter doesn't intend to come out of it alive. It's a lot easier to have the "courage" to do something like that when they know there are no consequences (since they'll be dead).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:11 PM
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And who created them? Oh, right, single mothers, the women-dominated education system, the women-pandering media landscape. Thank you for proving the point that the current order is bad and creating the very societal problem you pretend doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:08 PM
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Who said anything about "can't"? I didn't. Why would I bother to respond to your strawman? Better to mock you for your bad-faith behavior as you have quite conclusively proved here that you aren't looking to discuss, you're here to soapbox and mock.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:02 PM
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A problem that's exacerbated by sub-80th-percentile men seeing that the "reward" for doing the shit work that keeps society running is ... nothing. If enough of them reject that path then society starts to crumble as unpleasant-but-necessary work goes undone. A further problem is that women end up alone and children get raised in households that are statistically proven to lead to life-long negative outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:01 PM
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I’m sorry but society does not need men to keep it running. The gender/sex/whatever-we're-calling-it-today divide in the industries and fields that actually make society function would argue otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 09:53 PM
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You want to know what's even worse? Last time I saw a study on it it found that men are happier now than before. Those pathetic men are more happy than the men who came before who built society. So don't expect things to get "better" (i.e. men to go back to being not-losers) unless our current system completely collapses and we revert back to the natural state.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 09:49 PM
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Women's-Lib does not cause prosperity. Back that statement up with evidence. You first. You made the initial positive claim, you provide your sources before crying and demanding other people give theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 09:43 PM
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do you really need me to provide a citation Yes Should'a cited your 3 big claims at the start of this chain if you wanted people to act like this is a citations-driven discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 09:41 PM
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Even birds of prey had the lowest DCEU opening Which is kind of impressive considering how shit most of the DCEU is.
/r/MGTOW13/03/20 04:57 PM
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Men are responding to female hostility and threats of accusations with a simple, sane risk analysis. That's why women don't get it - to understand you have to be sane and capable of doing reasoned analysis.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/02/20 12:58 AM
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They don't know because most of them were raised in households where their father was kicked to the curb or was never known or they were an "oopsie" from two people who didn't actually even like one another.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/02/20 11:41 PM
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And a year or so later she'll be back again but the "Mommy to" number will have been incremented. Rinse and repeat a couple more times before she gets herself fixed on the taxpayer dime.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/02/20 01:37 AM
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