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What do you mean make something of himself? Most average dudes will have a house and a stable job at that age. What’s the bare minimum of accomplishment you have wanted them to manifest?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:26 AM
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Are there a lot of bots in ppd?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 06:25 PM
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Men are typically more direct, we do not dance around communication like women 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:48 PM
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Can you describe your symptoms of ASPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:11 PM
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“This isn’t my reality” plus your downvote says to me you were going to explain why you disagree. Instead, you made me read an entire paragraph unrelated to anything I just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:02 PM
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I don’t understand how that negates what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:58 PM
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Isn’t it so easy to tell them apart though? The ones with a huge ego are the loudest, always show-offy, always the stereotypical example of what they are trying to personify. A person who is real is going to appear pretty average, not talking about looks, but in career, hobbies, cleanliness, etc. Yet, people always want the above average, so they buy into manipulation. Idk just my view
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:20 AM
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But I think I’ll go ahead and join the weekly runners next Thursday and continue my venture
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:20 AM
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That’s the second time this year I was caught up in convo and forgot to pay for my food
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:05 AM
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Well the 5k went good. Finished in 35 mins! Even started talking to a guy at the end who seemed really cool and chill, actually he started talking to me! Except I was so anxious and distracted that I forgot to pay for food in line I just grabbed it and didn’t realize until after I started eating. I went up and immediately paid but the guy clearly noticed and was weirded out because he kinda didn’t seem to want to continue talking after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:05 AM
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You’re married? According to your controversial threads in weddingplanning , you’re getting married in November.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:48 PM
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I’ve seen her around, she’s pretty much the embodiment of “misery loves company”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:41 PM
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Can you give more details on the approaching more part? When would you find it safe to approach? How would you go about the approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:33 PM
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All in all, dating is luck and there is no strategy. Right time right place is all it is. You have to put yourself into situations where it is more likely to happen if you want it to happen. I believe you could learn to enjoy occasional outings if you found something you’re interested in, even if it seems like it isn’t up your alley right now. That’s all I have to say. Take care
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:01 AM
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Coming from someone who has had severe social anxiety and has some remnants of it to this day, the only real way to get over it is to figure out what you’re anxious about (rejection, what people think of you, how people will treat you, whatever) and put yourself into social situations and learn to accept when it inevitably happens. Awkward moments are unavoidable for everyone, and they’ll especially come more frequently when you’re socially inexperienced. But you do get better the more you do it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:26 AM
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I diagnose you with dying. For your bill, please just pay me by leaving everything you own to me in your Will.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:01 AM
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Honestly I have been thinking the same exact thing you’re saying in these comments. I read a post that I will link here after I comment and it kinda put it into perspective for me. Basically, you’ve just gotta learn to enjoy it. You aren’t going to really make friends with strangers at the gym, coffee shops, on the street, etc because a lot of people are there doing their thing. While some might be open to friendship, others aren’t, and while it doesn’t hurt to start small talk and be friendly i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:54 AM
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Of course it’s the Asian dude and the nerd at both ends
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:35 AM
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Yeah. My ex broke up with me. How was I supposed to know I couldn’t change him?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:18 AM
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-puts hands on hips- Well excuuuuse me!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:10 AM
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Let’s put it this way: if there’s a lot of single mothers because they picked bad men, that only means she picked a bad man that was in her dating pool. But we know that there are better men out there. So if the man was toxic, she fell for it and chose bad. I have to clarify I don’t believe this entirely, but it does happen sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:29 AM
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I would think it leans more towards the correlation of “bad boy traits are more interesting to girls” than the “they are all going after chad”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:16 AM
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I have nothing against single moms myself, I was just expressing that idea. Like you explained, it would be very easy to see it that way, but that doesn’t mean the single mom doesn’t deserve to be happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:14 AM
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I haven’t seen anything in Iowa
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:06 AM
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Yeah don’t do this man lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:04 AM
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I think the bitterness comes because the manosphere says it confirms that women pick the bad men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:56 AM
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I was thinking about celebrating earth day going on a hike or something. But I don’t got much time today. My water heater needs fixed, gotta do my gym and food routine, gotta vacuum and do laundry, and it’s Tuesday, my dedicated writing day of the week where I go to a cafe to write. So… not much time. Maybe I’ll have time to walk around town at the end of the day, but not hiking. Tomorrow I have to take my car to get looked at, on top of my daily food/gym routine. But I also want to see a movie …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:32 PM
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Sounds like he wasn’t having the best day
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:27 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:22 PM
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So you get two cows?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:21 PM
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Do you not believe average-attractive people could be a virgin later in life? Let’s assume they had low self esteem throughout their life until their mid twenties, and, in their late twenties, actually earned their confidence and self esteem? But they live in a rural area, networking is hard there, especially in post-covid years. Cherry on top, they do seem to catch a woman’s interest once or twice a year, but not enough yet to come across an option that they reciprocate the interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:30 PM
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It’s not about the individual themselves, it’s in discussions like these, and the overall stigma around “virgin”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:21 PM
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Oh man, i have a habit of that too. I gotta stop!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:49 PM
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Only if he’s making eye contact with you while he licks the rim
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:02 PM
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Yeah, they’re called players. What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:21 PM
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So what you’re saying is, all women like the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:37 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:33 PM
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I agree, most people who go out of their way to be “masculine” give me the same vibe you get from Reddit “alpha” folks. Strong identity attachment to these nuanced things is just screaming they have a nasty case of ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:01 PM
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You act like having sex is some magic thing that changes your entire personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:56 PM
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You don’t have to hide it. I wouldn’t bring it up, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:47 AM
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What trait is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:36 AM
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Parents and siblings came over to my house for Easter. We’re not religious either, but celebrate Christian holidays. I went to the gym and then celebrated 4/20 at the end of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:45 AM
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What color is your hair?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:15 AM
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I had a really good day too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:59 AM
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We will have to contact the head of Women Culture to know for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:53 AM
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What made it a good day?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:52 AM
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Happy Easter! And 4/20, if you’re into that!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:45 AM
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There’s something abnormal about everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:55 PM
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Are you going after psychics? What they probably notice is you seem unconfident in the way you carry yourself. It has nothing to do with being a virgin. You’re not wrong, i remember when i was in high school, class of 2015, girls were using the word virgin like some kind of undateable outcast, but they can’t magically sense if you’re a virgin. Get some confidence—exercise it’s good for the mental health, socialize with people who don’t seem like assholes—you’ll meet ladies, ladies who’ll want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:52 PM
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Jerry Seinfeld the Immortal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 10:10 PM
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That’s awesome dude. I have friends that let their kids play on the phone CONSTANTLY and then friends and my sister who only lets them occasionally. I think there is going to be a largely drastic difference between the two types of kids as they get older. Bigger than any inter-generational gap we’ve ever seen before. Their behavior and lifestyle will be so different, they’ll almost be like Morlocks and Eloi
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:15 PM
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Yeah, I think it’s just the way the culture is now. I suspect it will change, since culture always shifts its practices of sex, and there’s no reason to think it’d stay the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:53 PM
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I’m gonna go against the doomer grain here and suggest that later generations, like the middle or tail end of Alpha will be more sex positive and less uptight as the current generation. Gen Z incels and femcels will become an echo of the past, many will off themselves as they grow older, others will just become bitter, but some will actually change themselves and mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:14 PM
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Well it’s a good thing it didn’t happen then
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:52 AM
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It’s an Easter 4/20
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:38 AM
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When you come up with these ego boost stories, do you actually believe they’re true or do you just think other people are dumb enough to believe them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:32 AM
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You can still view deleted threads through links
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:46 AM
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What thread was it? Could you link it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:38 AM
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Do cool paintings and poetry come with it? And jousting?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:37 AM
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What do you mean by higher level of social aptitude? I am about to try going out to bars and clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:34 AM
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Doesn’t that prove the OP’s point? As a guy, I agree it’s hard to find genuinely empathetic friends. But as an empathetic person myself, genuine empathy for friends certainly does exist and checking in on friends’ wellbeing from time to time isn’t disingenuous .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:59 PM
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What makes you assume that? Do you think people don’t have empathy for their friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:23 PM
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Checking in on a friend/partner’s mental health is a brief overlook/understanding. Not a deep therapeutic level project. There’s shit I talk about with a therapist, and then there’s shit I’d tell a friend or a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:47 PM
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It’s hard to be a non-drinker in a world where drinking is popular. Even swapping vices, like another commenter suggested toking instead of drinking, doesn’t accommodate for the social disconnect there. So now if I’m at a bar or a club I’ll have one drink per hour and down a glass of water after every drink or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:24 AM
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Well, if someone finds you unattractive then that's just what it is. Basically, you can try to to get to know anyone, but you can't control if they want to get to know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:58 AM
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That is why I say tread lightly, it helps weed out the ones who aren’t interested to prevent the awkward moments
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:11 AM
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Possibly an awkward moment. But that’s why you tread lightly at first so you can roll it off without awkwardness, if the vibes don’t mesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:28 AM
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More sociable people in general are just nicer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:32 PM
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Pink Pony Club
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:57 AM
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Please reread my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:10 AM
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I’ve gotta be honest. It’s incredibly weird to me that that’s all you said, “she’s an awesome person, hope she’s doing well” and that’s the reason the girl didn’t want to continue. You either minimized what you actually said, she had another reason for not wanting to continue dating but she used that as a convenient excuse, or she is incredibly insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:47 PM
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None
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:30 PM
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Thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:23 AM
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Can a guy that isn’t very funny have a chance at being successful with women? I feel like my boring straightforwardness is what limits me. I am always very literal. I’m working on being funnier, but at 29 years old I feel sort of sol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:15 AM
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Yep. I’m hopeful to make friends/meet a partner eventually by regularly going to the gym and nearby coffee shops, and going for walks. Not that they’re the best places to cold approach, but I feel like I might see a familiar face and start a conversation, or they might recognize me and start a conversation as well. I’m stuck in a very rural area, I like it here, but there are not much in the way of events and no sports teams for adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:33 AM
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What do you want people, who do want an ltr but have trouble finding one, to do about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:04 PM
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Also, with exactly how uncommon that type of man is, I think it’s more likely to pull a person pretending to be all of that than it is to pull someone who is all that. All of those are fair traits to desire, but it’s unlikely someone is able to do the splits covering all of those to a high degree
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:27 PM
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Don’t you think that men would also like to pull their ideal woman to have a ltr? How can it be different if we have the same goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:22 PM
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The dude is obsessed with food
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:52 PM
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Don’t show this to the “healthy bmi 19-25” guy that frequents these threads lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:36 PM
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I’ll take the clogged toilet over trying to wipe Willy Wonka’s chocolate river from my crack hole
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 05:01 PM
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Why should one put on such an exhausting mask to upkeep? That mask isn’t going to stay on forever, and if your girl finds you a bit boring later down the road, or less fantastic than the show you put on to get her, there’s a chance she will not accept the real you and move on. Yes, I agree, it’s important to not be a humorless stick in the mud. But one should be having fun for themselves, and hobbies for themselves. A lot of times, the “game” means fake being this amazing person who likes to ris…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:53 PM
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Yep same, it’s just the sub for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 06:24 AM
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And if you don’t live near a large city?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:08 AM
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Well, well, how the turn tables Women don’t like to be the safe option either https://www.np.reddit.com/r/RandomThoughts/s/Aj64B8E9uW
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:49 PM
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It doesn’t bother me much, if I genuinely enjoyed the time we shared I’d like to show it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:45 PM
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How do you make your salmon?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:40 PM
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Agreed. It’s a traditional way of showing gratitude that she gave you her time to spend with you. I would even consider paying for a friend (if they otherwise weren’t going to go because they didn’t want to spend the money). I would insist on paying for a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:38 PM
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And everyone clapped. This story sounds completely made up by a femcel, for the femcel audience which is that sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:34 PM
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Ah ok, but would you say cold approaching isn’t such a bad strategy if you don’t have a wide enough social circle to meet someone that way? Maybe at a coffee shop? Or just via meeting people at the bar, not necessarily directly the girl herself
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:17 AM
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Can you define warm approach? I believe I’ve always been interpreting “cold approach” as “start things lightly, get to know them through conversation, then ask to meet again” but maybe that’s warm approach. If people this whole time have suggested cold approach as “go up and flirt with her” then I really don’t believe it, who would think that’s a good idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:57 AM
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Who gets the ick from directness and communication and the tingles from flirtation/wit again?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:49 AM
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Most of the people you’re talking about rarely interact with women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:45 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:11 PM
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“So, what did you do this week?” “Oh I went on a couple other first dates”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:11 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 05:33 PM
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Have any supplemants helped with anxiety in particular?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 05:26 AM
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Peace be with you man. You sound like a reasonable person, just caught up in some struggle. Everything is temporary, the good and the bad. You’ll have better days and that’s what to get through the bad ones for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 03:33 AM
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Did you edit your response? I could’ve swore it said “it’s not due to his dignity” the first go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 11:16 PM
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Why do i feel like you’re a woman behind the guise of a western male avatar?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 05:51 PM
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Where are you getting your statistics? What I found was around 5% are virgins after 25, sure it’s still a low number. That doesn’t mean something is wrong with their person, again, going off all of the discourse of how picky women tend to be, as well as other factors such as the men is supposed to approach, etc. Especially when someone can be a virgin and still have some women interested in him, but not women that he is interested in, or else he is too shy to approach himself and nothing ever ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 03:38 PM
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Reread my very first comment: Considering all of these answers here that just go to show how picky most women are, on top of previous threads that show that women give reasons for not approaching men themselves and that the onus should be on men to approach, why is it assumed “something is wrong” with a man if they are a virgin later in life? Why is it so surprising a completely normal dude could just have not ran into the opportunity?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:52 PM
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You cannot say that’s the only “something is wrong with him” part, when you read about how most people speak of virgins in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 04:54 AM
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I should clarify I don’t have a problem with women being picky, I’m a bit picky myself and I don’t blame anyone for being picky, especially if they hold themselves to high standards. I’m just saying, this thread is one of many proofs that it’s just a fact that women are picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 04:16 AM
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Considering all of these answers here that just go to show how picky most women are, on top of previous threads that show that women give reasons for not approaching men themselves and that the onus should be on men to approach, why is it assumed “something is wrong” with a man if they are a virgin later in life? Why is it so surprising a completely normal dude could just have not ran into the opportunity?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 03:58 AM
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My jaw literally dropped when I read your tag, before I realized….
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 04:53 PM
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Become more consistent with daily walks/gym routine Camping, kayaking, hiking, more coffee shops, go to bars in the city occasionally, more campfires in my backyard Spend more time with family Finally finish my book I’ve spent 4 years on and off with! Oh yeah, and hopefully get laid I have a busy summer
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:55 PM
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Someone needs therapy just because they didn’t date in school? Get off your high horse, pal, having sex and relationships doesn’t make you something special above people who haven’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:43 AM
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Only know you need to poop after Taco Bell
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 01:34 AM
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Bliss before bed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 01:33 AM
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Ever since I’ve started journaling what I did each day since mid-January, I’ve been increasingly productive and organized! Eating healthy, consistently exercising, important chores get done on time, less important chores get done eventually. I’m getting way better. I did miss out on writing this week, my goal is to set one day a week where I edit 1 or 2 chapters and that’s my goal for the week. I also need to put more time into socializing, which I plan on doing one day a week - going to see a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:35 AM
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You’re acting like an ass assuming I don’t have hobbies. I go to the gym, go for daily hour walks, occasionally go hiking or kayaking, camp a couple times a year, and I write fiction in my free time. Full time job on top of it. So yeah, I have hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:32 AM
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When a pigeon shits on your forehead right as you walk into your 12 hour shift in the factory 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:35 PM
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Question: where did women meet these mutual friends? And where did these mutual friends meet these mutual friends? Is dating pretty much hopeless if you don’t have a large expansive friend group? I’m hoping to make more friends over time but, it’s hard out there. An actual good friendship is hard to come by especially when you’re almost 30
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 07:59 PM
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Imagine you’re finally in bed with your 11/10 and every time you have sex they fart the absolute worst smelling fart you’ve ever smelled
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:16 AM
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I only let myself get toasted on special occasions, so it would be a waste to fall asleep during it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:29 AM
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That sounds easy, straightforward, and pleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 08:58 PM
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Late bloomer. Maybe a huge crush developed and they started thinking about it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:11 PM
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You’re comparing a time in your life when people are naturally more horny/angsty - late teens/early twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:08 PM
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I agree. As a virgin there will be many times when I just don’t think about sex, because it’s never been a part of my life. I imagine someone who has played the game, put some effort into being flirty/dating/and learning how to have decent sex probably thinks about it more, it’s a bigger piece of their life they’ve put more energy into.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:05 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:06 PM
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Play the dream where I’m Ryan Gosling
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:02 PM
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Close the sub, we have the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 02:26 PM
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The approach is probably different for different women and also depends on who is approaching them. The whole thing doesn’t sound like something I’d do, using the word “gorgeous”, complimenting looks in general, or asking to take her to dinner being the first thing out of my mouth. Not me, but if that worked for that guy then god bless.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 02:24 PM
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https://youtube.com/shorts/6uis-_hJm3M?si=QwHigAeom4O-X6li How men think Tinder works To be fair, those kind of men do better around here in Iowa
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:38 AM
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Is that a sandwich with whipped cream in the middle
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:13 AM
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I’m just saying, I myself would probably assume someone more passive is safer than someone boisterous and look for red flags along the way. But like another commenter said, there needs to be a balance. Someone clearly simping is not mentally stable either, it shows obsession.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:47 AM
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I think this take is more commonly expressed as an assumption instead of an actual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:03 AM
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I would guess a narcissist is more likely to boast their ego or be flashy, and it’s more often than not that’s the case. But I don’t disagree that a quiet person can be an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:01 AM
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There are more strengths than social skills and wit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:59 PM
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What’s with the desire to become above average in social skills? Is that something you really desire for yourself? You can’t be avoidant and expect to meet anyone, that’s a given. But you don’t need to be above average at it to make connections. Somebody you like can like you for other strengths that you have, if you have the social skills to meet them and hold a conversation with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:43 PM
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I disagree. People do make progress away from social anxiety later in life. You can easily find plenty of examples. It doesn’t have to be a person’s choice in order for it to not be genetic, or for it to not be engraved in a person’s being. Just like addiction isn’t a choice but it also isn’t engraved in someone’s DNA. (Well, ok, addiction has been proven to be genetic in some cases). There are ways around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:16 PM
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Yeah, OP. If I was told to lower my standards because I’m reaching out of my league, I wouldn’t budge. I don’t think anyone would. I think we all have to have an idea of what’s right for us. A man who is reclusive and severely introverted shouldn’t expect a woman of high status. A woman who is severely overweight shouldn’t expect a man who goes to the gym daily. A man who is scrawny and a geek shouldn’t expect a gym girl either. A lot of it is about lifestyle similarities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:14 PM
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The unfortunate thing is men that are passive, subservient and submissive are often overlooked by a lot of women. And are often called creeps if their social skills are stunted on top of it (and since a lot of people take advantage/avoid men like that, it isn’t unusual for their social skills to be stunted)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:08 PM
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Genuine question, since this seems to be a common experience from women I’ve heard on Reddit. How are men even able to manipulate women this way, especially unattractive men? I can’t say I’ve ever been manipulated by someone without me catching on. When things start getting uncomfortable, your boundaries being pushed, isn’t it natural to stop and think and push back?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:06 PM
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Well said, baby steps lead the way. The path to confidence requires perseverance and patience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 05:59 PM
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What’s white pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 05:55 PM
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Confidence and charisma is genetic? I highly doubt that, it seems almost entirely nurture not nature. Unless we are talking about autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 05:54 PM
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Should I go out to a bar tonight? Socialize a bit and try to meet new people?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 02:17 PM
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What did you do to improve your status?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 12:05 AM
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My skill set is writing, and I am working on a novel. It’s probably not promising but here’s to hoping. Cheers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 12:05 AM
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How does one improve their social status?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 11:22 PM
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I think you’re right OP. And it’s entirely fair. I just don’t want to accept it because I have low social status 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:46 PM
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From what I’ve heard on here and out of the mouths of various other ladies, don’t most women like dominating/assertive men? So isn’t it more natural to attract the conservative men you mention that see women as children?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:18 PM
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There is no difference, it was a part of the same sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:11 PM
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Thank you 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 10:17 AM
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I do go to neighboring cities that have colleges, to hike and go to cafes to do some writing. That’s about it. They’re still around population 10-15k but bigger than my city. I’m hoping to start a nice chat with someone at a cafe some day, if I can come up with something meaningful to say. The other week I was at a cafe and an attractive lady sat nearby me when there were plenty of other places to sit. I shy’d out but maybe next time if in a similar situation I might just start small talk if she…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:48 AM
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Just had a shake with oats peanut butter and honey for breakfast, now I’m drinking my black Folgers coffee before work
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:36 AM
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I can see that working using dating apps, but I don’t use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:04 AM
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Don’t laugh at me, don’t call me names 🎵
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 08:45 AM
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I wonder, are a lot of other guys on here from rural areas? Dating in rural areas is nonexistent. No meetup groups, no wide friend group unless you’re a part of “the” clique.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 08:41 AM
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I wasn’t talking about myself, just most men. And women. People in general. At least in their teens and twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:57 AM
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He not like us He not like us
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:33 AM
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No more daily?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:03 AM
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You clearly don’t know men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 05:00 AM
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It’s still much more successful in dating than humble confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 04:53 AM
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Bro that was your last chance, you’ll never get one again. Nice going
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 03:04 AM
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If you have a desire to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 03:02 AM
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Do you have to be flirty/teasing to succeed with attractive women? It’s just not something I care to put effort into. I have a sense of humor, but I need all conversation to be down to earth and straightforward, and humor here and there sprinkles in. Can’t do constant back and forth witty banter, not only do I not have the skill, it’s just not enjoyable as an actual conversation. This is how I talk to all of my friends and family, so it’s what’s natural to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 11:34 PM
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That sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:18 AM
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I didn’t see anything woe is me in his comment, at least not his first comment, so that’s quite an assumption. Just because someone says theyre passive or shy you automatically assume woe is me? Why couldn’t they just be saying it as an explanation why they’re a virgin (if they were asked why)? Also, how does being passive or shy not have anything to do with dating? Most women prefer dominant and boisterous men, and shy men make less moves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:17 AM
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Being passive or shy in dating so put more focus on other things throughout his life?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:12 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:06 AM
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I’ll accept it, but never speak to them again
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:06 AM
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I read that in Weird Al Yankavich’s voice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:06 AM
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You know, i never really thought of it til now. But yeah, it is. And his last name is kind of gross. Who wants to be Musk?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:05 AM
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I went to jail when I was 22 for three days. It was for weed, first offense
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:03 AM
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So it’s the paradox of choice that’s the issue for you. Eg, “there’s nothing to watch” because you’re subscribed to dozens of streaming services. Some shows catch your eye and you’d probably enjoy them and be glad you watched them, but you’d rather keep scrolling until you found a show that you think will be 10/10
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 07:15 AM
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The one arguing in bad faith is you, you’re the only one being rude in your responses. My argument is leading more towards the second one, about whether to put more effort into building a quality relationship vs putting more effort into a career or saving for a quality house. The only difference is I would say that since a partner is more valuable I would want to take MORE time finding that, because it is more valuable I’m searching for higher quality, but it’s a more central focus. There’s obvi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 07:12 AM
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A relationship is less permanent than a house or a job? Sure, if you’re materialistic. Are you saying you’d honestly prefer to live and entire life without feeling love or loving anyone than live a life without a dream home? What’s so funny about saying love is more valuable than a house?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:53 AM
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I responded to someone who made a similar point as your first two paragraphs: I guess you’d have to ask yourself why none of them are appealing. Is it the paradox of choice, where having more options means all options are less satisfying? Or are you really only coming across absolute bad choices? It seems delusional to believe that a woman would actually encounter so many men who would only use her for sex, if she was a true catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:44 AM
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I don’t want to speak for OP, but I believe he meant a quality house/job. Of course nobody wants to be homeless or jobless. But even still, if you’re homeless, if you have real love there’s still a very valuable, unwavering constant in your life. I would say it’s more valuable, but not as essential for living.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:42 AM
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I guess you’d have to ask yourself why none of them are appealing. Is it the paradox of choice, where having more options means all options are less satisfying? Or are you really only coming across absolute bad choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:38 AM
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I don’t see anything in the OP that indicates he can’t be happy alone. His point is entirely still valid, and you’re entirely correct that being happy alone is the primary thing even before being in a happy relationship. It doesn’t negate the OP at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:36 AM
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<image> From r/antimeme
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 01:52 AM
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What if I want to be dragged off to the feminazi gulag?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:46 AM
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Yesterday was out hiking in the nice 70 degree weather, today stuck inside because of a blizzard 🥶
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:41 AM
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I'm an edgedancer I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:20 AM
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Having your own part of the woods with your own nature trails sounds not very minimalist or simple living like you said
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:32 PM
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Would owning a very nice but small house in a minimalist city of 10k people, enjoying simple walks, a basic gym, and occasional drives to the city - while making only $40k a year be financially secure in your eyes or not? Not stupidly spending and saving something every month Essentially the minimalist lifestyle?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:49 PM
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Accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:54 AM
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Can you mods also see our lifespans?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:51 AM
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I don’t budget as much on the groceries because food is important to me. Needs to be healthy, filling, and taste good. But I just generally avoid buying anything with a big price tag except once in a while, and I’ve been managing that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 12:52 AM
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What’s yall salary without overtime? $40k here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 12:21 AM
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I went to a coffee shop by myself, one out of town that I’ve only been to one other time. I did edited two chapters in my book so it was productive! But I was too shy to even look up at the ladies who sat down nearby me when there were plenty of other seats. I didn’t want to accidentally bother them with me merely looking at them. Damn I need to get over this shyness of women. I am fine around dudes. I’m 29. Maybe I should just be gay (just kidding)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:18 PM
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If you’ve been talking to someone for a week and have gotten to know a few things about each other, isn’t it borderline sociopathy to think “I don’t owe this person the basic respect of telling them it isn’t working out”?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 03:02 PM
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Did you get it all out, bud?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 02:29 PM
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All of them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 03:38 AM
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Eloquent prose, you are a good typist, madam!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 02:00 AM
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Fellow weightlifters. You ever have days where you significantly lose reps in like all your exercises? Damn so defeating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 01:38 AM
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Sorry that this happened, especially two days after your bday. But, if you look into all dating advice from older women, men don’t change. If they do it’s temporary. Believe who a person is by what they show.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:50 AM
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I would like to see what a guy would look like that looksmatch her
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:47 AM
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This is what makes me grateful that my kink is so uncommon I need to use my imagination most times
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:45 AM
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I think high value men already do have the standards you speak of, except a lot of them also participate in a lot of casual sex, and some of them even deceive women with promises of a ltr to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 01:12 AM
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That’s a relief. I’m banking on it never coming up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 12:44 AM
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I agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 07:05 PM
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What does virginity have to do with inexperience outside of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:39 PM
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Is that even useful in a world where a lot of times women fake orgasms and desirable men exaggerate their ability?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:39 AM
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I mean, they’d probably find out right before the sex at the latest, which would make the whole thing uncomfortable, the guilt of being caught lying while you’re just about to get intimate. I mean, there’s really no way you can just pretend to know what you’re doing the first time and be successful at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:29 AM
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It’s not impossible for there to be both, but someone who doesn’t care about how they dress is more likely to not care about their cleanliness or being organized. It’s like dating jocks when you are looking for someone who prefers playing D&D over watching the NFL. Not impossible but it’s weird to look there. Not saying there’s anything wrong with it, just like there’s nothing wrong looking for needles in a haystack.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 08:52 PM
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A lot of women on Reddit talk about how they’d like their man to help out more with chores around the house. There’s also the theme of wanting them to be college educated and being a hard worker. Being kind and loyal. Being good with money. Those are organized traits, it doesn’t have to be OCD level. But why seek those out in a rebellious type? It’s like finding a needle in a haystack.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:11 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 04:04 AM
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I have never seen TRP advocate for that. But from what I’ve seen there’s so many different variations of the red pill that maybe some believe in it and others don’t. I do think you’re right that TRP discourages beta traits though
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 03:52 AM
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What’s plate spinning?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 03:49 AM
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Yeah, but it doesn’t make you a bad person to make a move if you feel a little breeze, you know what I’m sayin? Shoot your shots
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 03:17 AM
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Sure, but isn’t it a bit contradictory to go after a stereotypical rebel type but also want someone organized?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 03:07 AM
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Q4A: what would you do if your cat had a crush on another cat but the other cat rejected your cat because it was short?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 12:18 AM
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Everyone has their own way
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 02:38 PM
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Look at the comment above two above this one lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:42 PM
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Dorks make for interesting conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:41 PM
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Aesthetics you really just need bench press, pull ups, squats. Calves and abs are bonus. Even more bonus to isolate the triceps and biceps. Training for health the more unnoticeable muscles are important as well: hip abductors, hip adductors, lower back, and a good hamstring focused exercise like leg curls.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:39 PM
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Just wondering, how did he begin the conversation? What kept it going?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:05 PM
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He’s autistic
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 07:36 AM
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Maybe they would’ve seen it that way. You can be a creep for just saying good morning to some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 07:12 AM
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Timmy turner is god and fairy world is the afterlife. Touch me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:59 AM
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Fuck them assholes. Go for your friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:56 AM
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You should’ve walked by and nodded. “Pretty weather today— I mean, nice weather today” If they laugh, wink. If they are weirded out act like it was a mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:52 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:59 PM
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So you’re under the impression that virgin or unpartnered men are problematic? Why? Do you believe every virgin or unpartnered man is violent?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:34 PM
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The issue I’m having is you’re conflating simply being a virgin with being an incel
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:17 PM
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That’s not the same as the modern definition of incel
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:49 PM
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So, when are you two exchanging numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:42 PM
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What definition of incel are you using
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:39 PM
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I’m about 30 man. And honestly I don’t really have the desire to be someone I’m not, the only reason I sometimes dream of being more extroverted and witty is to attract a partner. Other than that I don’t really get my jollies from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 01:11 AM
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I think the only thing that I’m missing is being quick witted and extroverted. I don’t think those can be learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 01:03 AM
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Aw man, I’m 29 and n count is at zero. I feel like I missed out. I’ve always been a pretty reclusive person because of trauma, but I really got over that shit and have matured a lot, still somewhat shy but wouldn’t say I’m debilitatingly anxious anymore. I have hope, but still wish I had some fun through my twenties
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:12 AM
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What’s 4-4
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:08 AM
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What does a good day off look like to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:45 PM
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What’s your social security number
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:38 PM
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What would your own response be to something along the lines of “I spent most of my twenties getting over social anxiety and figuring out the life I wanted to live?”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:46 PM
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Appreciate it. That makes me feel a bit hopeful. I hope to run into women with your perspective on this when I'm out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 11:16 PM
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Would it change your mind to know that I'm 29?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:51 PM
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Well, I've had women interested in me but it either went one of two ways: I didn't make a move out of shyness/fear of "reading into things" no matter how certain I was she was flirting. Or 2. I wasn't interested in her back.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:36 PM
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I mean, is that an acceptable reason? I am such a man, not sure if you'll consider it since it's a strong, personalized anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:23 PM
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One thing I learned about being in this sub is to not take stuff as word of law here. Life and people are way too chaotic, especially when it comes to relationships/sex, to be pinpointed like that. If you're a decent person and put effort into your life, while you aren't guaranteed anything, you have a good chance of getting laid. Don't worry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 08:26 PM
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What about an average or even slightly above average looking man who is shy and slightly socially awkward, but has mostly overcome that in their late twenties?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 08:22 PM
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You are the rabbit’s god and it seems to be the expression of your emotions/mind at the time. Maybe the reason God created us is because we are an expression of His emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 02:47 PM
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Oh god, poor India
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 03:54 AM
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We all the average ones who want the hot ones
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:45 PM
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Anyone wants someone that looks good. I don’t think passport bros require kpop stars
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:47 PM
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Skinny isn’t a lot to ask for
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:42 PM
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Swiss
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:03 PM
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“Are you coming to bed, honey?” “I can’t. Someone is wrong on the Internet!”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:00 PM
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My own conclusion to this similar experience is that NTs tend to prefer witty banter around serious topics, while NDs like more serious discussions with occasional banter mixed in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:58 PM
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Self improving for a crush is the greatest feeling in the world! It makes you feel so progressive and confident. Enjoy, and good luck with this man! Hope it works out!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:55 PM
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Not my experience. I’ve become less bitter over the years so far
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:52 PM
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False equivalence. Passport bro looking for love, got used because they believed in love that wasn’t real. American girl was out looking for K-pop stars and got the ick because they believed the average man should look like a K-pop star
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:38 PM
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Yum. Could you please tell me the exact step by step process?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:21 PM
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I’m the opposite. I’m less jaded. Throughout my 20s I was overcoming angst and spent most of my time alone and self improving mentally
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:20 PM
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I have to say this while reading your responses. You gave an awesome response, and the shyness thing is definitely my reason for being a 29 year old virgin, and I have been working on it, so I’m glad that maybe that will suffice for some ladies when I get out there. And have to apologies on behalf of these incel-ish sounding comments like “most women are boring though” or “women don’t take accountability”. Not all of us are like that. Like your comments, thanks for the hope 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:02 AM
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You don’t have to be awkward as fuck to be a virgin later in life, a little awkward but still an otherwise normal human being is all it takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:53 AM
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It doesn’t make him a bad person, which disproves your other comment
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:50 AM
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I’ll agree with you on that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 02:45 AM
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What were you thinking I meant by simple? Preferably the most baseline example of what you were imagining rather than something obviously boring and lifeless. What’s wrong with passive? Conflict and drama is annoying. I wouldn’t want to even be friends with someone who gets into arguments over simple things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:44 AM
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It’s not necessarily really boring, it depends on how much you require to feel excited. For some people, simple pleasures in life are the best. Occasional trips, going on dates and on walks regularly, and living basic. And there doesn’t necessarily have to be mindless obedience in order to be an obedient person. Just someone who doesn’t want drama, who is fairly passive but is assertive when it conflicts with something they find important. And you don’t have to be a clown to be funny from time t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:30 AM
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Yeah, whether or not the healthcare guy deserved it, he still shot a dude from behind, offensively.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:07 AM
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Or they choose exciting/funny personality over simple/obedient personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:04 AM
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And insecure people tend to be the loudest
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:02 AM
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Arrogance and bashfulness isn’t high self esteem. High self esteem is generally not trying to prove anything and doesn’t put on a show for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:01 AM
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You really don’t understand what it’s like to be a man
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:20 AM
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I’d say relationships are more like houses. You realistically want that before 30, but sometimes other priorities take over or you can’t afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:00 PM
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The reason I mentioned the above average thing is because that’s exactly what these men are reacting to. They’re not saying women should have zero standards or just date anybody. They’re talking about unrealistic standards. And yes, I know that dating isn’t necessary. Which is why I said do what you want. But if you are complaining there are no good options, this is the exacted reaction and it’s entirely sensible if the person has unrealistic standards. Let me ask you this, if a guy told you he …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 06:28 PM
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Then what exactly is the issue here? If men aren’t saying this directly to you, then why not just go elsewhere? Men who say this are obviously responding to something, even if it isn’t a direct response to you. You see the rhetoric these people are talking about all of the time on AskWomen and TwoX and dating subs. It’s also just a reaction to the real world dating scene. And you’re talking about some of these men like they’re not options, but I’m willing to bet you only shoot for above average …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 05:09 PM
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Sure, but if you’re in a rich environment hunting for unicorn meat and complaining about being hungry, hunters that are in scarce environments are going to point out that you have options and it’s absurd to them that you think they’re not worth your time. Like I said, you can look for perfection all you want, best of luck to you, but if you come around complaining about dating issues this is what you’re going to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:41 PM
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Intellectually and emotionally and physically attractive doesn’t say much because those are descriptions of basic standards that everyone looks for. Nobody wants to date an idiot, nobody wants to date someone who is rash, and nobody wants to date someone they find ugly. It’s what you exactly mean by those things where the things get gritty. For all I know, you could be the woman equivalent of the guy who is looking for 10/10 blond chicks who are intelligent and also have their shit together. “Ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:20 PM
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You’re expecting to find not only Prince Charming but a Prince Charming who has all their shit together. A 10/10 man, every dot checked. You think a man can put so much effort into his appearance and social charisma can also divide more effort into emotional maturity, hard work ethic, being clean, and whatever else? A human is only capable of so much. Part of being in a relationship is accepting a partner’s flaws if you love them for their other aspects. But if you want to keep looking for a per…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 02:27 PM
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Scratching my head here because I remember seeing women say something along the lines of “there isn’t just a male loneliness epidemic, it’s across both genders”. And i remember multiple questions such as “What exactly are women issues in dating?” and the typical response comes up that women are searching for fresh water in an ocean while men are looking in a desert. And other answers implying that while they sift through a lot of responses, it’s hard to find one they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 01:35 PM
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Scratching my head here because I remember seeing women say something along the lines of “there isn’t just a male loneliness epidemic, it’s across both genders”. And i remember multiple questions such as “What exactly are women issues in dating?” and the typical response comes up that women are searching for fresh water in an ocean while men are looking in a desert. And other answers implying that while they sift through a lot of responses, it’s hard to find one they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 01:34 PM
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I hope you’re proud of meh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 05:32 AM
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You must not have visited TwoXChromosomes? Or any of the AskWomen subs?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:10 AM
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Jeffrey Dahmer loves me for my heart too
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:43 AM
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Do what you want. Most of these chicks be like "I want a man that looks like a celebrity, makes over $80k a year, is very charismatic, and is also clean, and knows his way around an engine. Not only that, but he's a family man with lots of friends." and then complain there are no good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:40 AM
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True. Just because he isn’t a role model doesn’t mean his ontological viewpoint doesn’t make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 01:59 AM
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I’m not trying to argue, just looking to understand. My way wouldn’t work at all? Why? I brought up something we could talk about, and said my intentions. I feel like just asking her out would have been way more random and wouldn’t have done justice (I genuinely wanted her to know I liked her art). But not asking her out, I guess I could see that working. But I still intended to get to know her in a dating way, so I wanted to be straightforward about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 01:55 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 01:41 AM
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I’m a physicalist, but I do believe there is some sort of inherent meaning to existence. And agnostic about a literal God. I’d say most of my beliefs stem from Alan Watts
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 01:36 AM
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Oh woops lol. Well, I wanted to make my intention known. Is that really a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 01:21 AM
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lol fair enough. On rereading it yeah I see that. I wish straightforwardness was more socially acceptable when it comes to asking people out, I’m not great at flirting especially if I don’t know someone
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 01:20 AM
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Is it kind of hopeless to ask people out over People You May Know? <image> I’ve done it a couple of other times and got rejected, both times they were friendly about it so I’m grateful for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 12:55 AM
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Talk to her bro
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:03 AM
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No and if someone found out I’d be really embarrassed. Even though I don’t think I post anything extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:35 AM
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I don't mind if someone finds me less attractive than their previous partners, as long as they're committed and they love me. But if they told me they settled for me I wouldn't expect it to last long, and I don't believe they'd actually love me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:21 AM
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Don't worry, us peasants won't have the right to vote in four years. The billionaires will stay put.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:19 AM
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I'm slow to anger. I have gotten a lot better at asserting my needs. I tell people when something doesn't sit right with me, if I need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:14 AM
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It's unfortunate that everything costs money these days. I remember the early 2000s when everything was free and ads didn't interrupt your youtube videos. GPT is just too handy though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:12 AM
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If I were able to afford travel, I would go to London or Ireland.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:10 AM
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Sure but a lot of women get the ick if a shy guy tries to talk to them and comes off as shy, even just a little. Or they may go along with bullying men picking on the shy guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 04:05 AM
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I succumbed and pay $20 a month because I use it enough to where it's worth it. It's basically become my Google most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 03:54 AM
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Exactly that. I am always the one guiding the conversation, but that can only work for so long.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:07 PM
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I’ve had matches on them, but it was like every other month, and half the time it was someone with catfish photos or it was someone I really did find attractive but they didn’t put any effort into conversations
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:48 PM
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What?? My ideal first date is a coffee date, but on my (hypothetical) girlfriend’s birthday she’s gonna be princess that day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:58 AM
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Sounds exciting! Have fun on your journey!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:06 AM
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Why do people talk about coffee dates like it’s a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:42 AM
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Had that happen with my therapist too before I stopped going. He was a good dude otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:29 AM
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How about Betsy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:16 AM
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To be honest I have no idea. I just want to meet someone I like spending time with and find attractive, then just wing it. I’m almost thirty, so maybe this goal or lack thereof is far behind. Idk. I mean what other goal is there? I have no strategy. I am really just kind of hoping to bump into them someday. Maybe at the gym, maybe at a cafe, maybe on a walk, maybe at work, maybe at a bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:45 AM
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<image> Am I physically attractive? My social personality is pretty introverted and shy. I make conversation, small talk, and am friendly, but I’m pretty short spoken unless I know you well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:29 AM
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What’s hard in an organic way look like/mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:34 PM
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So you want someone who is soft on the inside but doesn’t show it on the outside? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:53 PM
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Personality? You mean men that are rough around the edges but you want them to be soft on the inside? Or men with low inhibitions but you want them to give a fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:38 PM
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Hope Pilled based!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:34 PM
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I don’t think Trump cares too much anymore now that he is elected
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:40 AM
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Hey, chef
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:39 AM
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Put jelly on my burger for the first time. 10/10 would recommend
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:36 AM
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Iowa
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:16 AM
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I live in the rural Midwest. Mine is little below average in price, the low end shit boxes are about $40-60k. $70k is iffy, fixer upper. Mine is actually pretty good for the price, even has a metal roof and three bedrooms. Only big price reduction is the lack of a basement, but since I lived for years in apartments I never really cared for a basement. A large, brand new house here goes for $200k.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:10 AM
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I’m too broke to do anything major with the house, so I suppose the value will just decrease
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:07 AM
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$83,400 which is a bit sad because i bought it for $85,000 3 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:48 AM
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Are the people you’re close with all virgins? Having sex for fun, even with a long term partner, is casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:44 AM
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Ok that’s pretty cringe. But i could see my autistic ass accidentally having done that. Thanks for the heads up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:39 PM
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What do you mean by repeating your name?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:28 PM
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It’s interesting you mention that we aren’t shown how to talk about it or what to do about it. Some boys do learn about it, through their dads, moms, their friends. But when I was growing up my parents never talked to me about dating and sex, and my friends weren’t the role model type for that sort of thing, so I had all of that pent up puberty longing and it just turned into angst because it had no outlet. It took the entire first half of my twenties to relinquish that angst. But still, sociall…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 02:22 AM
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Having friends with kids sucks. I told them in advance that I was planning on having a birthday party at the bowling alley today at 4pm. I checked in again this morning if they’re still coming, all three are going to be an hour late. I already reserved the lanes. Man it’s always like this. My sister has kids too and I never get to see her. My friends rarely go out and if they do, this happens. I get that I’m not the center of their lives, they are busy, just venting. It’s pretty lonely being 29 …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 09:22 PM
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Or bring back gladiator rinks. The audience pays for everything!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 09:13 PM
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Reddit girls: “I pick based on personality.” Also Reddit girls: “Why do so many guys I date suck?”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 09:11 PM
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You can’t deny there’s a huge stigma about it. And no, I don’t think any virgins go around announcing they’re a virgin, but they might be picked up by being a bit uneasy in sexual topics that naturally come up, or not having a sexual sense of humor. They also are likely to be shy around women. This gets more noticeable the older you are, because the less virgins there are at your age. And, not to mention, if you’re on a date and they ask you questions that, even if you don’t directly say it, cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 09:09 PM
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Exercise wise? Socially high energy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 08:55 PM
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I saw that article too. So fucked up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 08:44 PM
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I trust my own hand movements more
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 08:41 PM
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Ironically, life sentence is cheaper than death row.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 08:39 PM
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To be fair, the rhetoric on the internet for the longest time was the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 08:37 PM
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I’m a guy but, affair? I’m out!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 08:36 PM
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Be yourself is probably the best because, as you said no other advice is guaranteed. If you follow your own interests and behaviors, even if it doesn't work out, at least you actually lived how you wanted to instead of dying alone and never having tried being yourself. In fact, even dying not alone and never having been yourself sounds tragic. Of course, there's social "rules" to follow - some soft rules, some hard rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 01:35 AM
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Well, you can’t really expect to date someone you can barely talk to yeah? I get it man, I’m pretty quiet and awkward around 90% of people, and it takes me a bit to warm up to people, and even then i only get less awkward but I’m still pretty quiet unless I have something to say. Dating isn’t easy, it’s pretty easy to get misunderstood if you’re a bit socially awkward. But all I can say is do your best to be your confident you, and own it. Work out the kinks you can, and accept the rest as a par…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:08 AM
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You’re not alone. A lot of women aren’t into liberal men it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:28 PM
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Cool. And your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:35 PM
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To tell you the truth, there’s no guarantees in life. I like your mindset. Regardless of whether or not your self improvement takes you to love’s door, becoming the best version of yourself is a reward in its own right and shouldn’t be discouraged. Keep fighting brother! Who knows, maybe you will be the one who crosses path with love
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:27 PM
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I mean, do you go out of your way to make posts defending men from women attacking them? People usually debate for their own gender on this sub, because it’s more closer to home.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:43 AM
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What experiences? The point of this debate is to get to the bottom of what constitutes as creepy. Obviously you can’t expect social change from Reddit arguments. So the only thing I’m trying to do here is 1. Make people realize that “creep” is a huge accusation. And 2. Asking people out is a pretty normal thing, especially when young and dumb and looking for love. = 3. Do you gotta be so cruel about it, if it’s innocent? Don’t call people creeps if they’re not actually creeps. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:07 AM
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It sounds like a bigger inconvenience to call someone a creep and make a big deal about it instead of saying something to deflect or straight out reject. I really don’t see how being kind to people in the moment of ANY social situation is an inconvenience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:04 AM
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Nobody is owed anything. But it doesn’t cost anybody anything to be a decent human being instead of being rude about it. I’ve rejected women before, and I’ve always told them kindly I wasn’t interested. And yes, sometimes women can be very aggressive to that response too. It really doesnt cost me anything. If a girl was behaving in a way that I was afraid of rejecting her, I’d be more stern about it and avoidant, but I wouldn’t go out of my way to make her feel insecure about asking me out, beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:58 AM
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All men should pay the price for the actions of a few dickheads on this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:53 AM
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Both
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:51 AM
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Couldn’t there be something in between a polite rejection and being absolutely rude about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:51 AM
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I guess I can understand that. One question though: should we normalize that as socially acceptable? Or should we call it out? I mean, asking someone out is 100% just part of the natural order, especially when you’re young. I wouldn’t advocate for death threats to telemarketers becoming socially acceptable, much less calling dudes asking girls out sociopathic predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:49 AM
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So is it socially acceptable for a woman, who feels uncomfortable at a guy merely looking in her general direction, to label him a creep? And before you say this doesn’t happen, you can see plenty of that crap on TikTok from gym girls. Or how about women making exaggerated stories of men asking them out to their girlfriends, to make the man have a way worse light than he deserved? Should that be allowed to be normalized or should that be called out? Because that’s a thing too, for a lot of girls…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:45 AM
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I can say in my early twenties i slipped my phone number to a few cashiers and drive thru employees. It seemed innocent, I didn’t pressure, I didn’t flirt then and there, I just slipped my number. I never got negative feedback from it, one girl laughed about it but not in a laugh-in-your-face kind of way. I just never received calls back, which is fair. I wouldn’t bother someone if they’re clearly avoiding me. But i will try to make eye contact or small talk if i see someone attractive. Sometime…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:37 AM
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Yeah, I agree all of those things are creep behavior. The thing that makes them a creep is they clearly don’t have respect for you or your comfort and go out of their way to trap you in their vision. Now that we agree “creep” is a serious accusation, do we agree it shouldn’t be used lightly or for anything less than an obvious creep? If so we’re on the same page and I wish more women would be mindful of how they used the word
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:31 AM
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Well what is more likely to upset them? “No thanks” and walk away and going about your day? Or making them feel like crap about it and telling everyone they’re a creep (again, if they didn’t do anything beyond just asking you out and handling the rejection fine)?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:23 AM
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The alternative is for ladies to understand where the guy is coming from and kindly reject him without calling him a creep(whether to him or to her friends), laughing in his face, or making a big deal about it? I don’t think lesser of women if I turn them down. I know they’re thirsty to feel love when they are asking, I’d never treat someone like crap for desiring that if they’re respectful with their proposal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:21 AM
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Sure. A dark alley, when someone is shopping or clearly running errands, in a parking lot, etc Someone out for a walk? At the gym when they’re on the treadmill by you (if you were there first) or finished with their workouts? At a pub or bar, of course? At a cafe? I think those are likely to be a hit or miss. If someone misjudges the body language, I think it could make the person annoying for a bit, but not a creep. The standards of creep that I set were if they were doing inappropriate things,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:17 AM
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Yeah. I live in a place where a basic house price is $70-100k and gas is $2.99-3.60 population 7000, not a meth town but just far away from the big cities. Even still, you need a full time job to afford $800 a month rent, a car, and other expenses. Not to mention full time jobs offer insurance. One broken leg without insurance and you’re in debt for a long while.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:27 PM
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Kindness is seen as a weaker more feminine trait, thus less attractive. Roughness is seen as more masculine and attractive. There's of course a spectrum, but it's obvious which side that's leaned on more leads to toxic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:07 AM
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You can make good money without college
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:32 AM
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And if it isn’t in your personal goals to go to college, should you not get married? It seems like the person I responded to was practically saying that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:44 PM
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It’s not like you can’t have other aspirations in life beyond college.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 02:38 PM
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If you are looking at your potential partners like HR at an employer, chances are marriages wouldn’t last long with you anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 02:37 PM
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Uh huh. Because getting a license to become a truck driver is so comparable to going to college to get married (facepalm) /s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:57 AM
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Just saying. If college wasn’t your life plan, or you don’t care about your socioeconomic class beyond living comfortably, etc. it’s really not worth going after those goals just in hopes you get a lifelong marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:29 AM
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Ah, yes. Jump through more of these hoops that weren’t important to your own personal life goals, just in case you do end up getting married, MAYBE it’ll last without divorce. Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:03 AM
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If you’re a guy especially under 30!!!!! Please don’t be afraid to go out and cold approach, make a fool out of yourself. Of course be respectful and decent, I have no doubt most of you who will actually try will actually be a decent person and know boundaries. Make mistakes. Don’t worry about it. If you see someone you want to ask their numbers, or to start a conversation, do it! I am nearing thirty and missed this opportunity because of anxiety. It’s not bad at my age either, at the right time…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:13 PM
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A lot of us here don’t really measure our self worth through how many people want to sleep with us. A lot of us just really want one lifetime partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:41 PM
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The narrative has been “if they’re a virgin this late in life, there must be something seriously wrong with him” if you read the above comments. The reasons assumed have been actual red flags and issues, nothing coming near “shyness”. Low self esteem was mentioned, which isn’t the same as being shy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:04 PM
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Shyness can be and often is something that goes away as you get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 07:59 PM
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Shyness isn’t something wrong with them. It doesn’t even have to be completely debilitating for them to end up as a virgin in their adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 07:49 PM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 07:44 PM
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If you got any askwomen page, you'll see 99% of them say it isn't an issue. I wonder why this page alone has such an issue with it in contrast. It's also funny to me how the common rhetoric on this page is "Men should be above average, otherwise they add nothing to the relationship", and it seems agreeable among women here to have high standards. And then they wonder why there are adult virgin men? You'd have to be blind to the years of debate here, which all people have come to agree to --that …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:48 PM
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Do you interact with a lot of virgins? It seems like not, since in a couple of your other 5+ comments on this thread seems to indicate you usually don't stick around to find out why they are a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:35 PM
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Maybe half of Japanese men just need to take a shower and lighten up bro /s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:23 AM
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I just don’t see how someone could enjoy anything outside of fleeting materialistic pleasures if they feel that way about themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:57 PM
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You love the things within your control and disregard the things out of your control. If you’re disregarding your opinion of yourself, aren’t you constantly living in dissociation?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:46 PM
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What is going on in Japan? I keep hearing about it but don’t know what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:28 PM
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The difference is, toxic people like this are going to be more drawn to more toxic environments, like the internet where people speak their minds aloud and especially on circlejerk subs where other toxic people contribute. And, of course, for every video of a toxic person doing toxic things, there’s a thousand other regular people doing regular people things that are not toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:20 PM
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There is more to liking yourself than just liking your looks, my friend. You can be doggone ugly and still love who you are as a person
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:10 PM
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Is that how you treat your friends? You just toss them out when you’re bored of them, or the friendship for whatever reason becomes less intimate (non-sexual)? If you care about someone enough to marry them, you love them enough to not want to hurt them in the same way you wouldn’t want to hurt yourself, or your child, or your parents. You would WANT to get over that issue with work. Together you’d find a solution. It simply wouldn’t be as black and white as you are making it out to be, unless y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:06 PM
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My thoughts exactly, except with all the agreements with the post that’s concerning. And people wonder why dating sucks for both genders these days. Love is just the honeymoon hotness to these people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:57 PM
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Aren’t you aware that life partners ARE life? You will go through all of the emotions with your life partner, just as you will in life regardless. You will be upset with them sometimes, maybe even downright hate them for a short period of time. You’ll have boring days, weeks, months. Life partner is a commitment of working together to keep the love going, together. If something goes sour (unless it’s something like domestic abuse) it is not just one person doing something wrong, it’s almost alwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:52 PM
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Voldemort
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:26 PM
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If she says no, can you ask her if she will be my girlfriend and link to my profile? Thanks dude!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:24 PM
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I wouldn’t be surprised looking at the erotica novels yall got on that side 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:45 PM
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Boom! Mic drop
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:28 PM
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Kinda. I would feel a bit obligated to stick with it and it’s just recurring.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:45 PM
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Most people I know date within their age range. +|- 5 years
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:43 AM
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I remember seeing a picture of an incel group on here, and many of the women agreed they were fairly physically attractive or at least certainly not ugly. I think a larger factor is social awkwardness. A person who spends their time on reddit is likely less social, so i think that’s the larger denominator. At least if we’re going off educated guesses
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:40 PM
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How do you know who is attractive or not behind a computer screen?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:06 AM
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Someone needs both, honestly, to not feel alone. Well, some people can do fine without one or the other, but most people need friendship and intimate relationships. The way you say “a woman to have sex with” seems to me you’re under the impression men only want their partner because of sex. Do you not think men desire emotional bonding/romance?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 10:18 PM
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Do you think people who seek fulfillment outside of sexual/romantic relationships are automatically not going to ever feel lonely or desire companionship or intimacy? If so, your idea of what goes on inside a lonely man’s head is so far off from the actual reality of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:06 AM
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I mean you can accept being single and still feel pretty damn lonely and want a relationship. The latter is pretty much an unavoidable feeling if you only have a date a year or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:59 AM
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Any options for men who prefer few select individuals as friends aka introverts?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:28 AM
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Yep. Being an introvert hasn’t helped my dating life any.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 08:05 PM
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It seems like most women are uncomfortable with a guy she doesn’t know talking to her at all in an enthusiastic way, not including asking her out on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:29 PM
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Isn’t Henry Cavill into Warhammer?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:30 PM
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I guess what I’m saying is, chasing perfection is an endless race. I’m not saying you need to stay committed to the first person you meet. But if you both signed up for a committed relationship it’s pretty nasty to cut someone off without trying to work something out simply because the relationship is not as butterfly filled as in the beginning. Are you expecting a partner that entertains you 24/7 and for the relationship to feel just as fresh after having lived with each other for years? If so,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:45 AM
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I mean, you’re exactly the type of selfish human being we who are serious about relationships should avoid to begin with. As long as you don’t gaslight the partner into thinking it’s their fault, and admit to them that you’re just bored since the honeymoon phase has warn off, there’s no problem with you doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:34 AM
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Nah, I don’t have sus behavior and women even enjoy conversations with me at work, servers when I’m dining out, etc. I’m friendly. But I can’t bring myself to become too friendly, because of things read online from other women, and from interactions with the occasional woman who looks at me with distrust for simply saying merry Christmas, or attempting to make small talk. It’s because I don’t want to make people feel uncomfortable, and I don’t want to feel uncomfortable if some lighthearted thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 04:16 PM
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I know I keep my conversations brief with women. Sucks for everyone around, the women that want to have deeper conversations with me that I'm not interested in romantically, and me when I'm interested in someone who I'm too shy to interact with. Every interaction feels like it could be taken as ulterior even if it's entirely platonic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 04:55 AM
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It's the nature of being assertive to face consequences/judgment head on. Do you think men who are assertive just have it smooth riding without consequences or judgment?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 04:07 AM
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Both are happening to an increased amount of people in their respected genders, is my guess
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 03:08 AM
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Examples please on what you mean by cues?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 01:24 AM
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Well my friends all have kids, so it is normally at their place when we get together. We might do campfires or just chat inside with some drinks. Sometimes we go to Walmart together or dine out, not as often though. Those are the highlights of my region, aside from bars, but like I said they have kids and not much money. My own hobbies are going for walks, writing, going to the gym, then cleaning and cooking for three meals a day take up a lot of the rest of my time. And being on reddit, which I…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 11:16 AM
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Hmm. Going out and socializing thrice a week just seems difficult while balancing keeping up with chores, cooking, working out, and hobbies on top of it. And after all that i enjoy a little bit of me time on top of it. Not to mention working a full time job. I do go out with friends and to solitary activities frequently, but finding time for peculiar hobbies is difficult. Well, I’m also from a rural area so those hobbies are pretty much dry on the market anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:38 AM
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Three times a week?? That's nuts. Can I bargain for once a week?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:36 AM
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What do you mean by conformist? Is conformity unattractive to you, further proving my point? And honestly, it's prevalent across all forms of pop culture. Music, movies, books, games. There is just no denying its prevalence, literally everyone knows of the stereotype and has seen it in various forms. And it can't be a coincidence that it co-aligns with a reality where so many women are complaining about their husbands or men in general, and giving up dating and saying things like 'no good men'.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:53 AM
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And you're accusing others of never touching grass. 😆 Online, things get all tangled up. These people accusing you of beta buxx likely don't know your history, or they're chronically online and simply don't believe your history. People take the words out of one individual's mouth and place it into the mouth of another individual in the same gender or whatever other subcategory the topic revolves around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:26 AM
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So you believe the whole "nerds vs jocks" thing of the pre-internet world, "nice guy finishes last" popular saying also from pre-internet world, "af/bb", "women like bad boys", etc all of those various tropes, just come from nowhere?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:19 AM
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Good luck to you. Trusting in shady people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:59 AM
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I mean, I've seen women who have admitted to it out loud (in past tense, never present tense) that they liked bad boys, both on Reddit and in person. I'd like to believe otherwise, but I feel like women generally choose overconfident men and douchy/rebellious to sort of closed off/reserved men who may be more stable. Stability and organized can look beige and soft from the outside, whereas rebellious and douchy can look interesting and strong from the outside. Both are illusions. I'm not saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 03:43 AM
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My balls speak French, so I never know what mine are telling me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 04:44 PM
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Amen. Not only that but it would be a contradictory lifestyle for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 04:40 PM
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I simply smiled and said "Merry Christmas" to a lady on the street, she glared at me like I was the biggest disturbance in her life and said nothing. :\
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 12:51 AM
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based
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 12:49 AM
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What about 35 year olds dating 25 year olds?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:46 PM
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There was confusion above about why it was so controversial. I could see it being controversial to Muslim culture which is much more patriarchal than Western norms
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 07:56 AM
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“Muslim” There it is
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 07:45 AM
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I found that my relationship with my family got better after moving out. Seeing my parents every day it felt like our interactions were nothing special and I’d usually spend time in my room. Now that I only get to see them once a month, each time feels special and I love them more. Yeah, roommates suck. I’ve had roommates before. Living by myself the last few years I got to really explore what I wanted to do in my free time, who I really was and what I wanted in life. But that could just be me. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:54 PM
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Living alone isn’t pointless, there are many perks and in fact I would recommend it to someone if they can afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:31 PM
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Some of us men are! I’ve met a few myself and have somewhat coaxed a friend who otherwise wouldn’t have into being more social from time to time. Go out there my dude, it might be like finding a needle in the gaystack at first, but chat with some guys at the gym, at the bar (you don’t need to drink if you don’t), someone on the same hiking trail. Some men will be douches, some will simply ignore you, but you might bump into somebody like yourself who is looking to socialize.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:20 PM
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See, this is kind of what I was saying. There’s a sort of spectrum of insecurity that even women are on. A lot of women that say they don’t like insecure men generalize any insecurity as an ‘ick’. When on the other hand, everyone is at least a little insecure. Someone who is overconfident is usually fraudulent, reckless, or suppressing something. I can tolerate shyness, a bit of social awkwardness, being inexperienced at something new. The type of insecurity I wouldn’t date, even in a woman, is …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:25 AM
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What makes someone an incel is if they fall into cognitive distortions beliefs about the genders, and actively hate women over them. Being an incel/misogynist is ultimately a choice, in the end. And if you don't know if you're an incel, you're probably not an incel. Yes, mental health issues can make dating hard, make the world seem like a dark place. Could I give some advice that helped me? Take some time out of your day, whenever you can, to go for a nice long walk. Do this regularly. Reflect …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:44 AM
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What are you talking about, 5'9" isn't short lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:34 AM
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Would you stop giving overconfident rowdy guys a chance if you had an experience or two of them being toxic in some way? I get the turnoff of insecure, but I believe some people overthink it. Shyness isn't insecurity, a truly insecure guy you could tell from talking to them for a bit. I'm just saying it makes no sense to think 'all short guys' or 'all shy guys' are bad because of some bad experience with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:25 AM
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What makes you think every virgin looking to date has a bad personality? Do you think every virgin that has been unlucky thinks they’re entitled to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:46 PM
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Why not make a thread about this? Could be popcorn worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:28 PM
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The poster was being sarcastic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:04 PM
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You watch too many movies
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:53 PM
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There are a few reasons why I think it’s not fruitless to tell someone struggling to date to work on their personality (as long as it’s said as a suggestion and not an insult, obviously the person could have a good personality we don’t know them offline; it’s good for people to introspect “is it something I’m doing?” for any struggling social situation). Improving one’s outlook on life and behavior if they actually have toxic behaviors is beneficial for them all around and will improve their qua…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:29 PM
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Aw. Why?? He’s adorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:21 PM
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Who the fuck are you to make all of these assumptions about me? Back off!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:18 PM
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It definitely sounds like you think we are your enemies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:05 AM
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You know, I thought the same thing about how to trust women at all after spending time reading toxic Reddit topics. And I've decided it's better for my own quality of life to not fall into the delusional belief that half of all people are my enemies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:55 AM
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It wasn't ever denied. It was just emphasized the importance of personality. Both are important, whichever is more important more likely depends on the woman/man. I myself am a pretty visual man so I would say attraction is slightly more important than personality, but this isn't true for everyone, and that isn't to say I don't care about a woman's personality if she's attractive. Again, both are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:32 AM
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Yeah, that's where it crosses the line. When they treat you like a creep instead of saying "no thank you". Granted, every girl that rejected me were nice about it so far, so I'm grateful for that. But it does throw me off what I read about on Reddit, I would be so disheartened to be made out as a creep for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:19 AM
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The dude's really freaking cute. But I can see why someone who doesn't like chub might not be attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:17 AM
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Yeah it is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:31 AM
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I won't throw the first punch, but I'll make sure they know that I'll throw the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 05:19 AM
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Aww please tell me this isn’t real
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:17 AM
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You’re wrong. Losing weight doesn’t depend on the food type you eat. It’s calories in, calories out. That isn’t to say eating pizza every day won’t cut your life in half.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 06:24 AM
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Maybe we should have the apps be more description focused then, rather than picture focused. Max 3 pictures. More than just a bio, there are interests (that you can manually type in), descriptions in those interests to add whatever detail you want. Have hobbies separate from interests, descriptions in those hobbies. Have a quote feature to put your favorite quote in, it might express one's own personal life philosophy. etc. Get rid of height altogether, mayhaps. And instead of the algorithm bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 10:24 PM
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Then you should know the benefits of self improvement isn’t about getting chicks, it’s about improving one’s own quality of life. Getting chicks is just a bonus.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:50 PM
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Don't feel bad about believing in something or wearing what you'd like. People will probably be off-put if you're too flashy about things they aren't very interested in so my advice would be to try and relate to others more while balancing that out with who you are (astrology+vintage fashion)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:35 PM
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Ah, so to your first point, there should be some implication that the girl thinks you're hot before approaching? Maybe even if it's some subtle thing that you might be reading into, that's an appropriate reason to take the risk and make small talk? (e.g. if a girl has seemed to been following you around the gym and it could be coincidental, it wouldn't be a bad idea to talk to her if you run into her while she's leaving - but if it's just because you see a girl from afar who's attractive, don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 05:55 AM
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What’s the point of saying that though? Certainly someone can be a virgin late in life because they are a piece of shit, but why would that automatically make being a virgin a red flag? It would just mean being a piece of shit is a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:41 PM
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How about just not being shamed just because we are shy or timid or not flirty or not outgoing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:42 PM
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Any proof of that or is that just conjecture?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:51 PM
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This is what causes people to be unhappy in relationships, you get a headache keeping up that facade. Just be the best version of yourself. Might get fewer women that way, but you’ll get a real one for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:41 AM
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I mean, I go with the flow and play it cool but nothing really comes up. I might have a brief conversation with a girl when getting groceries or when I’m at the gym or when I’m out on a walk, things like that, but nothing that could escalate to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:52 PM
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What about mild shyness if they carry themselves confidently, as in they have good self esteem and they're not afraid of people, they are just shy around people they aren't used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:47 PM
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I'm just asking questions, I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted. What I meant about where you met them is, where did you meet all of these women you had no trouble meeting prior to your current partner? What settings?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:43 PM
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Where did you meet them? How many were available? How many would you actually have been interested in?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:35 PM
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Could a shy/timid person have a good personality? How much flirting is generally expected?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:08 PM
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What does that mean? I mean how you just used it, not the general definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 06:05 PM
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What type of status? Are you basically screwed if you are one to only want a few friends and are comfortable with blue collar jobs? Could personality outweigh the lacking of the above?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:07 PM
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Do you initiate with men the first time meeting them at events or class? Or do they?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 03:40 PM
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What problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:39 PM
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I think pretty much everyone does domestic labor, especially single people. Or else they would barely survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:37 PM
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What do you mean by more?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:36 PM
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Learn to spell
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 08:00 PM
1

Aggression indicates lack of control. I think you’re mistaking it for assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:23 AM
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What's that? Become a transwomen to get dates? 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:07 AM
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Go commit some crimes then what are you waiting for??
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 11:19 PM
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Being virgin is a negative thing and most virgins can attest to that. It doesn’t say anything about who you are as a person though, and I agree on that too. Being black is not a negative thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 11:23 PM
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Maybe chronically online women's standards. Or very superficial women's standards. But most people in general are normal. You go out there, vibe with who you vibe with, guaranteed a real person doesn't expect you to make 6 figures or have a 6 pack or be 6 foot tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 07:21 PM
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The loneliness epidemic has everything to do with social media and the ultra-convenience of our modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:53 PM
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As others have said, people are grasping on everything they can to tear this guy down. People aren't making fun of him because he's a virgin, but because he's a piece of shit. They are using the virgin thing against him. To be fair, it's his own fault for making being a virgin some sort of pride thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:23 PM
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Why is it assumed this is only developed through romantic partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 06:26 AM
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What issues??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:44 PM
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i wanted to like kamala but womens called me mean names online /s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:49 PM
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"Get a divorce now!" "My husband won't agree to a vasectomy it's ww3!" (Literal words) "Just goes to show Reddit women are as unhinged as incel men, just in their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:27 AM
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Did you just 'so-what' the guy you voted for being a rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:58 AM
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If property taxes are your biggest concern then you must have very little to worry about as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:53 PM
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Freedom? You mean like prison time for burning the flag or criticizing the Supreme court? https://demandjustice.org/trump-calls-for-supreme-court-critics-to-be-jailed/ https://www.newsweek.com/trump-backs-jail-burning-american-flags-1944742 I don't think the guy is who you think he is. But it's too late, what's done is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:58 PM
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Did y'all really vote for Trump because of your incel beliefs? I don't recall Trump saying anything about giving out free pussy. What's going to happen for sure: Tariffs will increase prices for the consumer on all things that come from overseas, Ukraine will fall to Russian hands and a dictatorship will be allowed to snowball into something more powerful, abortion will become federally illegal (with both chambers of Congress red and Trump as president, there's no way it's going to remain at sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:47 PM
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Maybe there's a more obvious reason that both modest men and modest women struggle with the opposite sex: their modest personality keeps them mostly reserved, and it's usually the more vocal ones that find each other in the wild. It's kind of like a mating call. It has nothing to do with the women's personality, I can tell you that. As a modest man myself I would love to date a woman who isn't party-hardy (as long as they're occasionally outgoing and not impossible to get to know).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 04:33 PM
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Was there an actual outline to the "self improvement" red pills suggest? It's certainly true that, no matter what philosophy you approach dating with, you're not guaranteed anything. But some you'll definitely benefit from. For example, you go out and socialize more? No guarantee you'll find the love of your life in the wild, but if you avoid meeting people all the time your chances remain at zero. And, if you don't take care of your body, your chances are practically zero with a person who does…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 05:58 AM
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More opportunities to improve their social skills*
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 05:40 PM
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Damn man are you blue or red or what? Smartest comment I’ve seen
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 05:16 AM
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Something tells me you haven't experienced a 'first time' yet. It's like walking into the engine of a train and expecting to know how to operate it on the spot. You'd want to let them know you're inexperienced, or else they're sure to find out the moment you and her are alone in the room together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:58 PM
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Yeah, I would love to honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:37 PM
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I mean unless you want to lie about it when it comes time, which is wrong and wouldn't help the fact that you are literally going into this the first time with all of the nervousness and lack of experience and no idea what you're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:36 PM
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What if your hobbies are exercising and writing? Both are pretty solitary hobbies. What is inherently wrong with solitary hobbies anyway? It’s best to have hobbies for time apart, to keep one an individual. Which is why many married men end up falling into mechanic/wood working hobbies, as an escape from the family time. Same with women and knitting, girls night out, whatever. You can have solitary hobbies that interest you while also spending time with your family, and taking your wife places y…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:06 PM
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I bought my house before the interest rates doubled, so it would be a hard trade. And it would be hard to find a job that I like as much as my current one. Lower prices, less traffic, there's a lot of benefits to trade up for the minimum chance of joining a hobby group and meeting the love of my life haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:56 PM
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How about this instead: "Be the best version of yourself"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:07 PM
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Being a good man doesn't hurt your chances with everyone. In fact, it'll inspire your chances of meeting good people over bad people. And, if all else fails, there is a certain integrity and self esteem thing in knowing you evaluated your morals and made responsible decisions, a pleasure quite comparable to sex but lasts the lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:58 AM
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Just hoping to inspire some self reflection about what names you call people. As I see it, it really boils down to 1) You're an empathetic person and you'd try to understand how terrible that word is and should only be used when really meant. or 2) You don't really care what effect such slurs has on a person and you lack empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 12:33 AM
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Do you understand that it is a dehumanizing thing to say about someone, or do you just lack empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 12:08 AM
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Most other answers here seem to say that creepiness is the lack of understanding boundaries. You seem to be the only one insisting that innocent social awkwardness itself is enough to deem someone a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:33 PM
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Thank you for you answers. Very respectable perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:31 PM
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Sure, but this thread was made having in mind that the people who were responding were normal people and not childish people who judge presence and behavior in that way or call other people names. It's obviously a social deficit. What does that have to do with the discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:15 PM
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Because it's dehumanizing and shows a lack of empathy. Would you appreciate being called a creep over simple slip ups by various random men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 05:02 PM
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Would you say it's fair to use creep for simply being unsure about someone? Especially around other people, defaming him? I'm referring to the "unintentionally creepy" man you described, and not the ones who become actual creeps for not getting "rewarded" (which, believe me, it's not all of us and I would say it's far from all of us, so please don't stereotype us all thinking we'll be like that). I think defaming someone as a creep in your peer group is very dehumanizing and shows a lack of empa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 04:55 PM
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Would you say you use it sparingly?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:34 AM
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Oh yeah. Not even kidding, as a guy it even creeped me out, I read that post after walking home from the gym at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:59 AM
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But in general it's agreed it should only be used if the person genuinely makes them feel uncomfortable, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:56 AM
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What previous post?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:54 AM
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I suppose our views of reality gets tainted when we average-lookers spend time on a sub full of spite for attractive people. Thanks for clarifying the reality. I sometimes gravitated towards that mindset reading the posts here but I knew it didn't sound right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 06:00 AM
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Sorry, they tend to overlap 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:04 PM
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I’d put my hulk mask on first then help her. I always have a hulk mask in my gym bag for this specific scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 02:24 AM
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Yep, just a normal decent person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 04:25 PM
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Be honest, where do you hear people talking like that? In real life or online? If you are surrounded by people in real life that talk like that, I'd have to think you live in some trashy part of a city and would consider moving to a more normal region.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:58 PM
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