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Most women find facial hair/stubble sexy to some extent because it's a secondary sex characteristic. Again, most men should cover their face since it's too sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:35 AM
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???
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 07:45 AM
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Well we then broke up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:26 PM
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I don't know how to dumb this down any further. I wanted children, a family, I was working towards that and he was giving mixed signals. Eventually I stopped asking and starting planning my life by myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 01:51 PM
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This makes no sense at all. If you're in a long term relationship, you're going to need to plan for the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 12:39 PM
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What are you talking about? Planning for the future is an unreasonable thing to want?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 01:01 AM
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Okay in that case, I find stubble sexy Therefore men should have to cover up their stubble because stubble is sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 11:49 PM
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did you even read the post
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 09:31 PM
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What the hell are you talking about? I just wanted him to actually act like he loved me and wanted a future with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 09:29 PM
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Read them, most are making up stories about me and my life
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 09:18 PM
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You realise that hurts your chances?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 09:11 PM
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Well half the comments here are blaming me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:39 PM
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Yep, sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 12:33 PM
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say at least 17 men a year What planet are you on?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:10 AM
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I live in Los Angeles and there is a dearth of marriage-quality women and I suspect you're seeing the same on the opposite end, a lack of marriage-quality men. I don't think it's just here, I think it's everywhere. I only have 5 hard dealbreakers: No obesity or severely underweight No serious long term mental illness and neurodivergence e.g Autism/ADHD/Personality disorders, etc No history of violent crime and or extremely bad temper, no past abusive behaviour in relationships No porn addiction,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:06 PM
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You've gone through the majority of your 20s as a fit virgin and haven't been able to find a man to marry? Yes, believe it or not the world is not drowning in eligible bachelors. Where do you live? London UK. It also sounds like you're not just filtering guys very well. Someone in your situation should be doing the pumping and dumping, meaning that you should state your intentions from the get go and if after a few months the man isn't reciprocating with at least an engagement, move on. This is …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:24 PM
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It's still a social disability that impairs life massively, I wouldn't want to deal with that or pass it to my kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:23 AM
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Autistic women have lower birth rates than NT women, so clearly they do care at least a bit. Besides, when she has an autistic child, the guy will likely abandon her anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:17 AM
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I think it probably does stop them and I don't want to date them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:12 AM
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It's a mental disability that can be passed on to children?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:46 AM
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Well yeah, it's a huge dealbreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:33 AM
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Autism
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:44 AM
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Yes it is that big of a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:40 AM
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Do you know what just world fallacy means?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 09:16 PM
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That is pure just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:19 PM
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this doesnt matter because women wildly overestimate their own attractiveness. it could very well be that he was still more attractive than you, and you can not judge that by sexual attention because men often hit on much worse looking women because they are easier to get and because its a numbers game and already very hard for men to deal with any woman. Actually, it's men who overestimate their attractiveness: https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/social-instincts/201507/when-men-arent-good-…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:00 PM
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It's not half about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:52 PM
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I can think of is that the guy was out of your league and simply was not attracted to you enough or at all anymore Another insane take, only one of my exes was physically attractive, and besides it still wouldn't explain why they'd get into a relationship with me i the first place. the woman does not pull her weight and puts everything on the man on purpose or without realizing, or she dated someone out of her league, or someone who is unstable and sees relationships as feelings or sex based Yes…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:03 AM
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How have you had multiple relationships with men that lasted for more than a month (or thereabouts) if you didn't have sex with them? Because some men are willing to wait more than a month to have sex? Are you and these men all members of some bizarre no-premarital-sex religion? Nope, they just took sex seriously, one of the guys was a virgin as well. These "exes" - that you didn't have sex with - all wanted you back after this short period of sexless dating. It wasn't a short period. Again, I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:45 AM
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Because men are a lot more horny than women? How is that our fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:33 AM
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Who they date and marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:31 AM
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This is an insane take considering I did 90% in the relationships and my exes ADMITTED this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:27 PM
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You do realise going to much poorer countries to get women of a different race decades younger doesn't count, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:18 PM
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Where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:03 PM
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Well educated guess based on how they look?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:38 PM
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Well i ended each one and my exes wanted me back.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:32 PM
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Men claim this on here all the time but have ZERO proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:24 PM
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Most women don't date or want older men and the data overwhelmingly backs it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:12 PM
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What did I do wrong? You literally can't make vague statements and claim narcissism. None of them, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:11 PM
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What you're trying to imply is a just world fallacy, I.e good people get treated good and bad people get treated bad, doesn't work like that. I literally could not have done anything else, I was damn near killing myself trying to make them happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:54 PM
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This has no relevance, I didn't treat my exes poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:53 PM
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he pulled back because you didnt reciprocate and demanded far more than you gave back It was the exact opposite, i put in most of the effort, in all of the relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:52 PM
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I dumped all of the guys because they started taking me for granted and treating me badly. I won't stay in a relationship where i'm treated badly, a therapist isn't going to argue the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:25 PM
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'withdraws the disproportional amount of effort down to a normal level' You think the woman doing everything is a normal level?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:24 PM
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No, this is literally the OPPOSITE of what I said. I was in multiple relationships aged 18-26, my weight changed between aged 18-22 and has stayed the same since, I ended every relationship I was in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:01 PM
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So ALL of my exes liked very thin girls despite me being in multiple relationships and my weight remaining largely consistent for the last 5 years? This somehow explains men following the exact same pattern in multiple relationships? You realise my weight only changed in one of these relationships and it's largely due to extreme stress that i was underweight?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 12:52 PM
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But in reality what we see every day is young women fantasizing about older men. LOL literally where?!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:49 AM
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This is true 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:45 AM
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That's literally the top 0.0001% of celebrities lmao, this is such a poor argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:44 AM
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Men can date all the younger women they want, just don't complain about gold diggers or being divorce raped or being unalived when you go abroad to try and fuck teenage girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:41 AM
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Er no, no he didn't. We both had class at the same time, he didn't plan and adjust that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:49 AM
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Well half the comments are guys arguing against it saying it was somehow my fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:36 AM
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How do you mean 'people like me'?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:35 AM
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I was UNDERWEIGHT at 48kg, are you gaslighting deliberately or what? I'm 5ft 5 and my weight is 54kg, this is a healthy weight. My BMI is 19.8, what the hell is wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:35 AM
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So it really doesn't surprise me men are low effort with you and nobody has pulled the trigger. I was VERY enthusiastic about marriage and intimacy in all of my relationships, I got treated like shit. And as I said, my ex did propose, but it was too far gone then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 11:34 PM
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Stop with the histrionics. older virgins are what we are talking about, not younger ones. If you want to have sex so bad, wouldn't you be more motivated to find a husband? You seem more interested in being right than being married. Is what it is, if me being an 'older' virgin is bad to some men then fine. I don't want to 'have sex so bad', and yeah I've largely lost interest in marriage now due to how I've been treated in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 11:26 PM
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From my perspective you should tell men immediately you're looking to be married. If they don't enthusiastically say yes I'm here for that reason too... move on. I did and they did, men lie. Tell them if they want you back you expect a proposal. My ex did propose but it was after 4 years, I'd lost interest at that point so I dumped him. Well it matters a lot because you already have a limited dating pool of men who would be willing to do this. You cannot afford to alienate these men just because…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 11:11 PM
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Women are all dating 6ft 7 guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:53 PM
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So many women in the sub have had this exact issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:52 PM
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Yes but you shouldnt expect to date someone that long without marriage plans. Frankly its ridiculous you think what youre doing would work. It's on the man to plan and ask, if he doesn't do that I can't force him. To a virgin waiting for marriage they absolutely do. You're just not dating these men or otherwise turning them off. Not sure how when they begged for me back after I dumped them. This is only going to get worse the older you get because the virgin waiting for marriage is attractive fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:50 PM
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Men want to avoid what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:43 PM
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Naturally it'd be the woman's fault wouldn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:37 PM
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It's really not, women end up poorer after divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:36 PM
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I'd love to know how that was true in my case
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:35 PM
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???
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:34 PM
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Because the man took her for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:33 PM
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What are you talking about? How is this relevant to the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:33 PM
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I weighed 48kg then (I was actually underweight) and I weigh 54kg now, so no, complete speculative bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:32 PM
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Doesn't matter, they're equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:31 PM
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Why are you dating men for years and not having sex? Because I don't want sex before marriage. If youre waiting for marriage just only date men who want to marry you? Because men don't just meet women and propose immediately? Mind if i ask how old you are? 26 I don't go around asking girls sizes before dating them but I've never ended up with a girl larger than size 2 and most were smaller. So when you tell me 4 that sounds big. Not like fat or anything but doesn't sound ideal to me and I have p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:30 PM
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I doubt it because for the longest time this kind of deterioration has only been told from the woman's side and in a lot cases the man's side provides context that changes the outlook. All of my exes admitted fault and all wanted me back, I said no. It's easy to say he "stopped putting in effort" when in fact "his efforts were almost exclusively met with complaints". I never even suggested that anything like this happened. It's easy to say "I did all the chores myself" when it fact "She just did…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:33 PM
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I've been to 3 different therapists, I've never been diagnosed with anything. Nice troll though, gg.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:28 PM
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I ended every single one and tried all I could to make it work, I can't think of anything I did other than not leaving them sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:26 PM
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Major red flags how? My ex did horrible things to me but it's my fault for not 'empathising' with him enough? Do my needs come into this at all or do I just exist to provide for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:25 PM
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Yes, I grew up religious, as did my partners. People can do things other than sex you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:20 PM
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How did you get that impression? Literally the opposite was true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:19 PM
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What are you talking about? This has nothing to do with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:11 PM
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I look exactly the same with less acne, besides are you saying that somehow aging naturally makes men turn into sociopaths?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:10 PM
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What you posted isn't what's happening to you. Men are not caring because they aren't having sex. facepalm Well if they wanted sex they could've married me, I'm not getting pumped and dumped. If you're a virgin then frankly none of this applies to you. What you posted isn't what's happening to you. Men are not caring because they aren't having sex. facepalm I mean this isn't ideal. I personally would find that too much. You can say it's great but objectively it's not fit enough that most men wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:09 PM
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Did you actually read stage 3 or did you just read the title?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:06 PM
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Pretty sure that's not what is meant by bang maid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:05 PM
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Yeah I've seen the posts you've been making, I see what you're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 11:04 PM
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So I 'Hit the wall' between 18-22?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 11:03 PM
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What on earth does that even mean
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 09:59 PM
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It's actually so sad seeing the sheer number of women who wanted kids but never had them because too many men wasted their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:50 PM
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He's blocked me I think, showing up as deleted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:44 PM
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Oh damn, what's this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:41 PM
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The length of time from courtship to moving in, that's it. They don't leave at super high rates from lesbian relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:40 PM
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This guy has twisted every single thing I've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:38 PM
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Sadly I did waste years on the wrong partner and now I'm too old to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:37 PM
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That is very uncommon experience. No it's not, not at all. Half the women in the sub are talking about the same experience and the men are attacking them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:29 PM
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Uh huh, that's why you put so much effort into them and care so much they didn't work out I cared about being treated badly yes, this is fairly normal. Doesn't sound like you ever really gave a fuck about them as human beings, honestly. I lent them money, went out of my way to help them, took them to the hospital, cared for them when they weren't well, often put their needs above my own and your logic is because i got upset after they started taking me for granted and treating me badly, that I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:21 PM
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You described intentionally going silent for the sake of inspiring them to respond. Now you are changing the framing. You actually may be a real malignant narcissist, nothing is ever your fault and the facts are infinitely malleable in order to make sure it was never your fault. Classic NPD. No, I asked them if they needed space and if they were less engaged with the relationship, then I got on with my own thing, went hiking and on trips with friends and just allowed space for a while. I gave th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:17 PM
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In lesbian relationships, women get into relationships very quickly, meaning often they aren't compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:13 PM
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Yes absolutely, I'm happy to admit any wrongdoing but I'd certainly like to know what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:01 PM
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No, not ignoring them. I got on with my own thing and went on trips where I sometimes didn't have signal, whatever I say you're twisting it into me doing something wrong, you can just say you'll blame women no matter what and we can stop wasting our time here. If I was such a horrible, awful partner then why did he propose? Why did he beg to gwt back together?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 08:01 PM
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And then he just stopped, that means something is wrong, with him, you or relationship. It didn't just stop, it gradually dropped off over time. You both need to figure it out. Men dont just walk away from good relationships for no reason, in vast majority of cases, especially without trying to fix it. If you never had this in the first place, something that happens often, you were never a girlfriend, just placeholder/fwb with different name. He began taking everything for granted, which he late…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:58 PM
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I literally went days/weeks without speaking to them. Didn't work, nothing did (except ending the relationship)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:52 PM
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Nah i think I've seen enough of this cycle to know how it's going to end.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:51 PM
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They aren't reminders that i'm not perfect, they were incredibly lousy partners who were selfish and completely took advantage of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:51 PM
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I did, we were long distance and there were times i'd only speak to him if he spoke to me first, once again it didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:50 PM
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Peak woman by wanting him to address the arguements.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:08 PM
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I told them waiting til marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:07 PM
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Sure! love to know. Again, my ex was extremely regretful about the way he treated me and apologised, you invented an entire story about my relationship that isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:56 PM
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It dries up because the men who did all the work don’t get reciprocity. Nope stage 2 was mutual, try again. All the good stuff you reference in the beginning is men doing the vast bulk of the work. Notice that? Like initiating conversations and asking if she wants to hang out? Did you completely ignore stage 3 where he stops putting in any effort whatsoever?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:55 PM
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You never responded to me asking what if anything I could've done differently. You made a bunch of incorrect assumptions too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:50 PM
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Lmao where do you live? Clearly nowhere near me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:49 PM
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My ex had ADHD and it was honestly the worst and most frsutatring part of the relationship. He literally couldn't see what he was doing wrong for the most part, it destroyed so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:48 PM
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Yeah, you won't say because you're chatting shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:45 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:45 PM
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Yes it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:44 PM
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I am a virgin, I was speaking hypoithetically but much of this is drawn from my own experience. I told them while we were still just friends. One was a year, another was 8 months, the last was 4 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:41 PM
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I don't know which comment you're referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:31 PM
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So the best i can hope for is a man who begrudgingly stays with me because of 'duty' wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:30 PM
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Yes, try and read the next line carefully. the guy puts in a great deal of effort wooing her AT FIRST. As in, when they are starting to get to know each other. Then the women reciprocates and we move to stage 2 (where things are mutual) Then stage 3 is indefinite and can go on for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:29 PM
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No, this is a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:28 PM
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What men i chased away? i did the breaking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:27 PM
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Yes because I was always trying and doing my absolute best, what more could i have done?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:27 PM
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What OP described is a validation train with no reciprocity. It's literally all about getting narcissistic supply, it is ALL you seem to care about. Probably why you made this post to begin with. I am the OP.... it's not a validation train at all. If he messages her, she messages back, he asks if she'd like to hang out, she enthusiastically agrees. Then when they officially get into a relationship, the effort is mutual. Lolololol... yeah you did. No? No i didn't? This is you trying to change him…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:25 PM
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So 'secretly' the stage 3 guy was the 'real him' all along? I think that's a bit unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:18 PM
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Stage 1 was just him starting conversations and asking if she wants to hang out for a month. Stage 3 is her doing literally everything in their lives while he pretty much ignores her, this can go on for years. You think this is comparable?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:17 PM
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Seriously though lmao, why go through this clown show when he'll lose interest anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:13 PM
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"the chase" is just a dog and pony show to get a woman interested in you. Most men don't like it but feel they need to, kind of like working a dead end job with a goal to escape the grind and reap the benefits in mind. So my ex secretly hated talking to me and engaging with me and spending time with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:09 PM
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Heavily based on personal experience, so what exactly went wrong here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:03 PM
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What's the point in being with one then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:03 PM
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I don't think any of my exes had NPD, they didn't fit the criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:02 PM
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At the very early stages because men generally approach and initiate things first. But yes after the initial month or two, it's absolutely mutual, stage 2 is mutual.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:01 PM
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By transactional acts you mean him talking to me, planning things with me and being interested in the future and acting accordingly?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:59 PM
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I've dated my match, still got treated like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:59 PM
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What are you saying? That this pattern can be explained by women not putting as much effort into their appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:58 PM
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Start putting equal effort then and do not just sit there and enjoy what he ‘brings to the table’! I put all the effort into the relationship, that was PRECISELY THE PROBLEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:58 PM
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Your problem choosing him as a partner. You saw the signs but ignored them. What signs?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:57 PM
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It means he thought he could do better than you and when you—the placeholder— decided to leave, he panicked because he didn’t have a replacement lined up. This has happened multiple times. What do you look like? The amount of “love” a man will give a woman is directly correlated to how physically attractive and young you are. Don’t take offense as it’s not meant, it’s how men are. I was aged 18-26 in these relationships, I'm 5'5, US Size 4, 20% body fat. And that's pretty sick, when i get older,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:55 PM
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I don't know what else I could've brought to the table, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:53 PM
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Have you dated women? Yes I'm bisexual. The point is, and what your post shows, is that you believe women should be acted upon, providing no axiomatic value of their own. I never said or even implied this. This is why in Stage 3 or 4 whatever you wrote, the cancer, that is her engagement in a real relationship, has spread to day and wide, metastasizing and now extraordinary measures are being used to resuscitate what is left of the relationship. A real relationship is a man putting in zero effor…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:53 PM
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You realise this is a just world fallacy? There isn't much more I could've done to be better in my relationships and after i ended it, my exes asked for me back and I was not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:50 PM
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Thank you for reminding me that I will be nothing but dancing monkey for her, atm and free therapist. How on earth was this your takeaway from this post, are you insane?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:49 PM
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Sorry to hear that, what happened to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:48 PM
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What has this got to do with the post? What on earth are you people talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:47 PM
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putting in the time in grade required to proceed to the next stage. What do you mean by this? Career success doesn't just happen it takes years of effort. Those years include a lot of boredom and a lot of grinding. That nice house on a tree lined street required years of saving to acquire. That saving requires forgoing fancy dates and vacations. What has that got to do with anything? Women don't want to participate in building a life. Women want to be provided that life. So stage 3 when the woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:47 PM
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I was in a relationship for years with a man who at most spent $60 on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:44 PM
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Bitter how? I was literally proposed to and i didn't want it. I'm much happier now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:43 PM
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Well it's how all of mine have gone and every friend I've had pretty much. I think given the % of women who initiate divorce, this is a very common scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:40 PM
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Nope, I didn't live with all of mine, this cycle still happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:38 PM
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He was hardly the guy you describe above.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:36 PM
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No, the focus of the post is the amount of attention the man is putting into the relationship at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:36 PM
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Women on average seem to think they can dictate what being a good woman is to men instead of listening to what men say about it. No we don't we aren't stupid. For example tons of men readily say they like low body counts, and women who take care of their appearance specifically in terms of eating healthy and working out, and not talking primarily about makeup So if a woman isn't on her physical health and appearance, and is engaging in casual sex, she clearly is not at her best in terms of two t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:32 PM
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I'm not sure, I personally put in more effort once I got into a relationship. I never wear makeup, I always put effort into my appearance, if anything i put more effort into my appearance because i started making more money. He still treated me like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:26 PM
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As in you were the man in this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:25 PM
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No, women end up poorer after divorce. Marriage doesn't benefit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:25 PM
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So either a woman is 'dating up' and it's her fault when things go wrong or she's dating a loser and it's also her fault when things go wrong. I'm starting to feel the game is rigged.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:24 PM
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This is incredibly insecure. If you need constant attention and validation to feel loved, how much time can you spend returning any of those needs? Literally the bare minimum effort is 'constant attention and validation'? You treat the woman's contributions to the relationship as a given, but effort does not equal contributions. If the effort is focused on changing him or using him, it isn't a contribution. I never said it focused on changing on using him at all. If this has happened in all your…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:23 PM
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Then why constantly hate on women? What exactly do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:20 PM
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I want my partner to actually put effort into building a relationship and a future with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:19 PM
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You literally said it's just not the same under a post where i describe being devalued and discarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:19 PM
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Stages 1 and 2 are the guy putting in extreme effort Talking to someone, making jokes, spending time with them and occasionally making plans is extreme effort? with seemingly no reciprocity from the woman I think you missed this part: He is kind, generous, loving and attentive and naturally she is the same to him. Yet... she never seems to do the same in return. This fictional woman is very passive. Yeah, OP adds in some bull shit at the end: "Naturally, she does the same..." But this entire ran…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:17 PM
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Sorry to hear that, what happened with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:12 PM
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I was the very best in my relationships, didn't stop me being devalued and treated like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:12 PM
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Well you can believe it or not but it's true and i'd really like to know why
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:11 PM
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So because women won't fuck you on demand in exchange for flowers and dancing there's literally no point in putting in effort at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:10 PM
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If this is the case with men, then why pursue women at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:10 PM
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Go on then, what was he sick of explaining to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:09 PM
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How exactly did this happen in the above case?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:09 PM
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Well i'm not sure how my 5'7 unemployed ex with no degree, no money and poor hygiene was me dating up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:09 PM
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Well you know, I continued to love my partner, to care about him, to give him love and affection. Somehow, I was able to maintain this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:08 PM
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Yeah it seems like this 'male loneliness epidemic' is only going to get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:07 PM
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So it was unrealistic to expect my partner to put in ANY effort at all beyond the first year?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:05 PM
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You can never make a woman fully happy I was absolutely happy in my relationship until he stopped putting in effort and acted like he didn't care anymore. there are many guys who put zero effort yet have a satisfying relationship That's literally stage 3 and the woman leaves shortly after.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:05 PM
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Explaining what to me? You literally don't know anything about my relationship but seem to be inventing things from thin air.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:01 PM
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Are men ever going to admit being the problem in relationships or is it women's fault for acknowledging or eventually getting tired and leaving?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:58 PM
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All their exes begged to get them back, as did mine. One again, i don't think this inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:57 PM
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Yeah? You can just go your own way then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:52 PM
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Having an incredibly intimate experience with a stranger only to spend the next god knows how long begging him to actually commit because I'm essentially being used as a fleshlight? Hard pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:51 PM
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I'm not sure how me putting in effort and expecting it to be reciprocated makes me a 'miserable bitch' and my 'capricious demands' included asking if i'd done something to make him feel differently only to be met with coldness. I did walk away from the situation, I'm not sure why you think I 'flipped the table'
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:50 PM
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My last ex proposed to me after 4 years but by then I'd completely withdrawn and ended it shortly after. Not sure what that says.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:48 PM
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Women tend to feel unappreciated in relationships and tend to divorce more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:47 PM
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There's no such thing as overcompensating when you love someone. I'm pretty sure there is. She believes she has to overcompensate because she feels entitled to his affections. She thought she really deserved it when he was wooing her and now she can't do the same for him in the relationship because of her entitlement. This makes no sense at all, in the beginning they were both putting in mutual effort, then the guy stops putting in effort at all and it's all on her. She thinks sex is a reward to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:46 PM
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That's amazing, i'm happy for you! Well I don't know whether all my exes just didn't like me, seems like an oversimplification to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:43 PM
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This is a tale as old as time. Men become complacent in relationships. The key is not to get sexually involved with men until you get serious commitment out of them and they’ve proven they will always treat you like a new girlfriend. I'm still a virgin, it didn't help me sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:42 PM
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Nope, this has happened with a wide variety of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:41 PM
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Nope, I've been doing this since I was 16, so has every woman I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:41 PM
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We both just started talking because we were in the same class. If I saw him, I started a conversation, he did the same with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:40 PM
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That sounds way worse than what I described.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:39 PM
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My ex was 5'7, still in college and wasn't 'looking for pussy' but alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:37 PM
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How does it show the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:35 PM
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Who said this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:34 PM
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yes, if you have to do it constantly without receiving anything back. Obviously the woman is reciprocating time and attention, I wrote this in the second stage. not you, because you keep willfully ignoring this aspect. For you it's only "men bad because no effort, poor women because something something mental load". You're making things up. I will give you a gold medal in intentionally misunderstanding anything I say. Him putting in as much effort as he receives from his girlfriend. If he always…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:33 PM
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Well in these comments you seem to be an absolute minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:23 PM
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I don't think they forget, i think it's deliberate negligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:22 PM
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Courtship is fucking expensive dude. And in this economy? He’s gonna cut the loss sooner or later. HOW is courtship expensive? My ex and I went on a first date to a festival which was free, second date was to a lake which was free, and third date was to a castle and cafe which was around $15 and we each paid for ourselves. Did you though? Like actually did you? Because if you actually did he would not of left, only exception being if you were the sneaky link and he got cold feet. He didn't leave…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:21 PM
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Strange, i didn't know having conversations and spending time together was me just 'enjoying the ride'
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:17 PM
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But it's not even that hard to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:16 PM
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So you stop feeling attraction and don't feel the need to bother with her anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:15 PM
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Every relationship I've been in has followed this pattern. Divorce attorneys often report men are 'blindsided' by divorce whereas the women despair because they've been trying for months/years to make him see the issues but just got ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:14 PM
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Lack of comittment is the exact situation i'm describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:12 PM
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'Work needed to facilitate a reasonable amount of leisure' ????
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:11 PM
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Yeah well, hating and blaming women is hardly going to help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:10 PM
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Er, what? You don't want to put in any effort into a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:06 PM
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So sitting back and letting him empty his wallet, his time, his affection etc etc Who said anything about emptying his wallet? I didn't mention money once. Time and affection are mutually given, unless you see it as a burden spending time and showing affection towards a woman you like. then getting bored and leaving when it starts to slow after putting in 0 effort counts as putting in effort? I literally described the woman putting in maximum effort and going above and beyond for YEARS and him i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:05 PM
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You seem to just be trolling so I'll just report the comment and leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:02 PM
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You literally added nothing to the debate, didn't even try.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:59 PM
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???
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:57 PM
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What on earth are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:55 PM
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You must be very very unattractive if this has never happened to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:55 PM
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But all women. I guarantee you half of youo are full of shit . You are incapable of seeing yourselves as the problem How exactly is the woman the problem in this scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:54 PM
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Why? Do you not like your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:53 PM
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Again, you're not making any sense. Men no longer hug, kiss, engage in foreplay or barely have sex with women at all because they have a high libido????
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:53 PM
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How is it different?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:51 PM
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You yourself pointed out how the women always loses interest as soon as the money stops flowing. What has any of this got to do with money?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:51 PM
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Meaning what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:48 PM
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Well no because i saw first hand how these relationships progressing and saw text messages. Why would all women choose to lie about the same exact problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:47 PM
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Interesting, what do you think determines this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:46 PM
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The man will eventually stop putting in as much as in the beginning phases, firstly because it is draining Putting in effort to a relationship is draining? and secondly because whatever he does what his girlfriend wants, the girlfriend rarely does for him. Wait who said anything like this? Eventually the relationship reaches an equilibrium - congratulations, you are now in stage 3. Her doing everything and putting in all the effort is equilibrium?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:46 PM
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'They become closer, at first as friends but then slowly with more flirting, as more than friends.' And what do you mean "naturally"? Is this the "woman is perfect" fallacy? If someone sends you a good morning message, you send one back, they put in effort talking to you and so do you, they send you funny memes, you send them back, they make time for you and you make time too. I don't know how I can dumb this down any further....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:44 PM
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So how do you explain men not putting in any effort at all into intimacy? This makes zero sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:41 PM
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Trying to avoid what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:33 PM
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Seriously? Being enthusiastic is just love bombing?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:22 PM
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Notice how there's zero reciprocity in the beginning from the woman. 'He is kind, generous, loving and attentive and naturally she is the same to him.' Think you didn't read the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:21 PM
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Everything is the “Man’s Fault” lol. Who said that? Most divorces I’ve seen in the actual adult world happened due to money issues (husband not making enough $$) or different expectations that finally came to a head. Infidelity (on the mans side) is the most commonly cited issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:17 PM
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Did you actually read the post at all
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:16 PM
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Have you thought of how exhausting it is to be with someone that contantly needs to feel excitement and entertainment? I wasn't aware that listening to my partner, caring about what they want and need, not making extra mess for them to clean up, or liking cuddling on kissing them was 'constant excitement and entertainment' Holy shit, can he have some rest without her feeling like she isn't loved? Him literally ignoring her for months or years, not even bothering with hugging/kissing/foreplay any…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:15 PM
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Whatever you spend on that first date of nice dinner plus drinks even Elon couldn't do 7 days per week, 3 meals per day. My first date with my ex we went to a festival, he planned it roughly but it was free (unless you count the small amount of money on transport to get there) Eventually you must cook together or swing by a fast food place. Boom - "less effort" That isn't less effort and that's not what i said at all, go back and read the post. Women are WAY better multitaskers. For a man that c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:11 PM
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I didn't know being loving, interested in and planning for the future with your partner is non stop entertainment, wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:06 PM
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"already won the girl", but rather the women failing to put in effort on their end. Did you read stage 3 of the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:05 PM
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No man wants to spend thousands of dollars per night, no man wants to spend 18 hours per day on the phone, no man wants to always run at 100% never making a single mistake, etc. Where on earth in my original post did i say this or anything close to this? You even pointed out in OP that the woman is the one who leaves once the thousand dollar a night dinners start to dry up. What thousand dollar dinners? Where are you getting this from?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:05 PM
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So my ex courted me for around a year, barely spent any money but this was somehow unsustainable?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:04 PM
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This is not addressing a single thing i've said at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:02 PM
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Literally just show an interest in her and the relationship, remember her birthday and surprise her and be loving and affectionate, this is a long list of demands?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:02 PM
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The only reason males have to interact with women except for practical purposes is for sex ONLY. Then why not hire escorts and just don't bother with relationships? Man will put up with many things just to get the pussy, relationship, marriage, they will change jobs their bodies everything just to get pussy. I doubt this was the case in my relationships, so this really doesn't explain things at all. So once they finally get it. Then they can get back to the stuff they enjoy and not have to conti…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:01 PM
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Most women in most relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 02:59 PM
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Interesting because every single woman I've ever met has experienced this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 02:59 PM
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Then how do you explain men treating women so well during the 'chase' and beginning to lose interest and withdraw once the 'chase' is over?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 02:41 PM
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It's interesting because I've experienced this in every single relationship regardless of the dynamics of his parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 02:40 PM
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I. ALREADY. DID. THIS.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:05 PM
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If you can't honestly see why a persons gender will lead to bias when discussing a topic, I don't know what to say to you. I've already pointed out that there was no evidence, just two anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 08:26 AM
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Are you autistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:07 PM
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Because people tend to hold bias through lived experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:16 AM
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It's obvious from the post history. 2. I'm sick of men larping as women to push their bullshit. I've already addressed the fact that his 'proof' is literally just 2 anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:43 AM
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This guy was claiming to be a woman, which he clearly isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:34 PM
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Good thing I didn't do that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 12:06 PM
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Nipples, duh?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:50 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:50 AM
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So? I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:49 AM
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Yes I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:49 AM
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Any company that markets beauty products to women, any company that markets home decor to women, any company that markets egg freezing or fertility treatments or baby products to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:26 PM
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Why were you drawn to a community like that?
/r/ExRedPill13/04/24 07:54 PM
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'Because men like me died and fought so you can be equal today.' Lol I'm sorry what? When was there a war fought over women's rights? 'Look out at the world, would you want to live outside of a western country?' What does that have to do with anything? 'Wrong. Western men protect you from those men.' From what men? You realise that was a metaphor don't you? 'Who do you think protects your rights? Do you yourself?' Well my rights are not contested on a daily basis but yes, if there was a situatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:36 PM
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The content is complete and utter bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:10 PM
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Yeah, being equal IS the bare minimum. Why would I be grateful for something women should've had all along?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:47 PM
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And by point you mean a few flimsy anecdotes that this guy feels strongly about for some reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:25 PM
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They aren't points. they're anecdotes that this guy feels very strongly about for some reason. Breasts aren't equivalent to male genitals, extremely poor points raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:16 PM
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Yeah i mean fair enough being against circumcision but why larp as a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:10 PM
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Then a number of companies should be shit down for exploiting women's base instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:09 PM
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"Her" name is 'evilliberalharlot' and her entire post history is criticising women and parroting justpearlythings talking points. She also claims to have no idea why a woman would feel a little intimidated being approached by a 'friendly guy', it literally reeks of male solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 06:07 PM
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??? Literally right. The stats actually state that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 03:04 PM
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They don't, when you take out the lesbian women who've dated men in the past the stats drop.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 02:50 PM
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It's really not that simple is it? Again are you implying that women should be grateful that men 'enforce' the right for us to be treated with bare minimum human dignity?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 02:47 PM
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No, my rights are not a point of negotiation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 02:35 PM
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Men did not 'set up society' this way at all. Men set up society to benefit themselves and after great pushback from women, changed things to be more equal. This didn't happen quickly and required a great degree of sacrifice from women. Why should I should gratitude towards a group of people who had to be persuaded to see me a a human deserving of freedom and respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 02:19 PM
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You COMPLETELY missed the point as I said. You said this: 'You might want to brush up on history if you think women were treated like slaves.' To which I said: '100 years ago in my country, men could get a divorce if a wife cheated, but women couldn't get a divorce if the husband cheated.' Then you completely changed the topic to me wanting special privileges even though the point I was making was that women were treated horribly in the past and men structured society to benefit themselves at th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 02:15 PM
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What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:52 PM
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Men will have full blown chimp out/meltdowns at the most ridiculous things, then claim with confidence that women are too emotional and should have have their decisions controlled by men. Straight up meme gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:47 PM
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In this respect, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:46 PM
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If you have evidence debunking a study (for the record, there have been multiple studies on this topic, you don't even know which one I was referencing) then you post it. You have some nerve questioning the IQ of people when you write like a 107 IQ man thinking you're some kind of genius when you're actually a great example of the dunning kruger affect lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:38 PM
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You can post proof without doxing yourself, I know you're older but come the fuck on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:35 PM
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The divorce laws changed? Did you completely miss the point this hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:33 PM
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Reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:30 PM
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'Having a brain' isn't evidence, it's a dumb sarcastic comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:00 PM
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You made the claim so you provide the evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:58 PM
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That's not proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:58 PM
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Did you not see this or did you just choose to ignore it? 100 years ago in my country, men could get a divorce if a wife cheated, but women couldn't get a divorce if the husband cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:56 PM
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Where is your evidence? Also it wasn't a study commissioned by feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:48 PM
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women only care about like 1% of genetically best men, in the past (and now) men reproduce because women still need men to some degree if women didn't men at all, and were strong enought to kill them off, they would do so and keep only few chads Where is your evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:47 PM
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'43 year old man who currently sleeps with 20’s.' Proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:44 PM
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Men deliberately set up society to benefit themselves at the expense of women. 100 years ago in my country, men could get a divorce if a wife cheated, but women couldn't get a divorce if the husband cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:43 PM
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I'm a younger woman, I've been approached by older men since I was 14. I don't like older men, I don't want older men, I find older men creepy and weird and disgusting. I wish more than anything that you dried up wrinklebags would stop saying it's older women being jealous, we literally DO NOT WANT YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:40 PM
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You literally claimed women would put men in concentration camps. 'when women are equal, insatntly 50 to 80% of men are shit, and if women were in charge, that % would extend to almost all men' What do you even mean by this? 'women aren't fundamentally wired to care about men' Where is your evidence of this? 'women being above men is an inversion of nature, and how we evolved as species' So women not being suppressed is women being above men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:36 PM
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You literally referenced ancient people who essentially denigrated women to slave class.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:35 PM
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What coding error? And the rest of the stuff i said?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:34 PM
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Men can just control themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:27 PM
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'men are fundamentall wired to care about women' Which is why men are more likely to kill their partners, cheat on them, and leave them if they are sick? 'give a man money and power, and he'll take care of his family' 30% of men who are supposed to pay child support don't even bother paying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:27 PM
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Claiming that women are 'emotional decision makers' and using this as an excuse to enslave them is precisely why men should NEVER have power over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:25 PM
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What? You're basing that on what? And what are you implying here, that men have to suppress women because women will rise up and enslave men if they don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:23 PM
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It's an autistic man
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:14 PM
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No one believes you're a woman lol, most obvious male troll I've ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:10 PM
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They suppressed women because it benefitted them to do so, simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 12:08 PM
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If men can't give women the types of relationships we desire, why should we even bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:51 PM
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I honestly think men would be shocked if they knew how little women think about and revolve their lives around sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:49 PM
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Men can do what they like but don't expect me to date a whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:48 PM
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Exactly, we don't want older.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 07:28 PM
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Hate to tell you this but i'm a woman and no we don't. Women overwhelmingly prefer to date men of the same age, up to 2 years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:22 PM
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You realise a 'story' doesn't disprove my point? it's anecdotal evidence and doesn't represent the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 12:47 PM
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'its not good to rely on single income in a family. two income = more money = lower work time = more time to spend each other = more stability = more happiness.' The problem is women are expected to work AND cook and clean and take care of the kids and it's too much. 'u dont need man but u want man support for ur child.' It's not her child, it's both of their children, but you're expecting the woman to do 100% of the child rearing and 100% of the paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:38 AM
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You do realise the 'we don't need a man' comes from the idea that it's not good to rely on a man financially to put a roof over your head and feed you because of how unreliable men are. It doesn't mean 'men should create children and abandon them'
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:15 AM
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I agree and increasingly women aren't getting married and having kids anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:14 AM
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When did feminist say that men should be allowed to do absolutely nothing and get away with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:59 AM
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Yeah this isn't true, women end up poorer after divorce: https://theconversation.com/womens-probability-of-being-in-poverty-more-than-doubles-after-separation-181345
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:40 AM
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How does marrying a man make you entitled to his money and property?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:23 AM
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Giving a child to an orphanage doesn't lessen the economic burden, obviously these children need to be fed and housed, most likely by taxpayers. Why do you think men should be able to shirk all responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:22 AM
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'Pair bonding' isn't really anything they have evidence for. Yes of course the more partners women have the more likely she is to be unhappy, what they don't tell you is the same is true for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:39 AM
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Average age gap is only 2 years, women don't want old men and don't go for old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:38 AM
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No I didn't: https://www.aidsmap.com/news/dec-2015/australian-survey-finds-less-third-gay-men-have-committed-relationships-just-one#:\~:text=But%20of%20these%2C%20only%2063,a%20committed%2C%20strictly%20monogamous%20relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:35 AM
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Which studies? Saying what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:54 PM
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Well no not really, regardless of who is funding them they show similar patterns.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:39 PM
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Women don't want older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:24 PM
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Yet the stats are on my side.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:17 PM
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The women are correct, the men are largely parroting manosphere bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:04 PM
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How is marriage biased against men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:56 PM
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What 'power' does she get?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:55 PM
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So the alternative is what? Women pay for and raise children by themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:46 PM
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Only 30% of gay men are in monogamous relationships, considering infidelity is one of the biggest reasons women file for divorce, I think it's easy to see whats going on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:17 PM
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Yep, have experienced this. My ex has a new partner after 5 years of being single, he still messages me to this day even though I never respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:37 PM
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It's typical of cults to do this.
/r/ExRedPill25/03/24 12:08 PM
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There's a huge crossover between mental disorders/the red pill so it's likely.
/r/ExRedPill23/03/24 08:27 PM
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LOL what a queen
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 08:21 PM
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Ah, so you don't have any (:
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:01 PM
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and they are actually unhappy when single" Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:58 AM
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Well I didn't know all my religious virgin friends were used up whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 10:04 AM
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How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 07:10 PM
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It's just that women overlook these men and go for men that have 20+ other girls chasing after them. Load of shit, even men with little/no options aren't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 12:46 PM
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Men are much more likely to get no social support and no help from anyone when are in serious difficulty, There are plenty of charities that help men. we can't force men to reach out though. so or course they are more exposed and prone to crime and addiction and have more probability than women to become part of it How does men being 'exposed to difficulty' cause them to overwhelmingly commit the majority of crimes and murders?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 12:09 PM
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--Women approaching 30s, and it is finally hitting her that top guys just want fun only and no commitment Most men aren't looking to settle down young...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 12:07 PM
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Except it's not. 20-25% of women take perscription drugs in the USA. A bipolar b*tch with a liberal arts degree in Music Therapy (and 70k in debt) How does this contradict anything i said?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 07:49 AM
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Got any stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 12:42 AM
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So some men being irresponsible is somehow damning for the women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 11:06 PM
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Literally how, it take 2 people to make a baby....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:54 PM
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Those stats are all true, but I still find women like u rich. 'This is true but I don't like that it's true so i'll insult you' You spend all your time complaining about men and yet you're almost always single, loserish and whiny. Spend all my time? I've been on reddit less than an hour this week. I'm taken and have been for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:53 PM
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Not that I'm aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:53 PM
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What is 'well kept'
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:44 PM
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Men are way worse than women on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:44 PM
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- Men are more likely to be in prison - Men are more likely to have every kind of addiction - Men are more likely to be violent - There are an equal number of single moms and dads, women don't procreate alone ​ This is a bullshit take.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 08:43 PM
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Men disproportionally benefit from relationships with women, women don't benefit from relationships with men on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:24 AM
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well you're basically saying that being able to have sex whenever you want is not an advantage because you think men are so terrible they're a detriment to interact with. which is quite hateful No, most men don't view sex with women as a loving, intimate experience. Most men view casual sex as something crude, carnal and physical only, who would want that and why is it an advantage that there are men out there that would use me like a tissue willingly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 03:12 AM
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saying that you hate men doesn't refute my point Where did I say that? Men CAN have sex with desperate horny men, where is the lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 09:20 PM
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The average woman can get laid whenever she wants The average man can have sex with a bunch of horny desperate men too if they like, that's hardly a good thing. has a variety of government programs and affirmative action to make sure she succeeds in life What are these programs?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:11 PM
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10000% Men treat women worse
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:04 PM
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This includes examples such as choosing men who do not openly display toxic and/or violent traits, and not ignoring those red flags just because he gives you the tingles. Most women don't do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:05 AM
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most women after 30 will go for responsible and emotionally mature guy (not speaking about the ones who are looking to settle down, in general) Nahhhh we much prefer hot guys
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:02 AM
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Most. Any is better than none. Evidence? Not the same result. He had a relationship even if it failed. Boring/unattractive men don't even get that. Yeah they do, it's just the autistic ones that usually get nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:54 AM
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That is not a contradiction with boring/unattractive. You can be boring, unattractive, nice and likeable. No, boring and likeable don't generally go together. As for unattractive, how many men will date an unattractive woman? Got better results than a man that is boring/unattractive. And winded up with the same result because he's a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:08 AM
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It is a bad world to live in. Well it shows that people respond best to what they perceive to be nice and likeable. People who are boring/unattractive could always try being nice/likeable. A better result than never being in a relationship. He defrauded his way into a relationship before being dumped, how is this in any way good
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:58 AM
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So liars get better results than boring/unattractive men. Not much better. People who fake being nice and likeable have success with others, is this really such a hot take? Are you telling me that you don't know of any woman picking a man that is obviously bad? Any? No. Because all you need is one example to say with all certainty that in this world being boring/unattractive is worse than being obviously bad. That's not how this works at all... Fair enough. He got a relationship. Even then is mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:12 AM
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And the end result is that a serial killer/abuser is not an incel and a boring/unattractive men is. And? They faked a persona? Good for you. I am talking about a known phenomenon I have seen a lot in person that is the fact that some women date men knowing they have a history of abuse. This is a claim made by you and nothing more, I can just as easily make a counter claim. Not an incel. He had sex. He got better results than the boring/unattractive man that remains alone even if his crime is onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:54 PM
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Serial killers and known abusers are better. Got it. Serial killers are often autistic, a huge percentage of school shooters are. The norm is that killers and abusers are not incels, but boring and unattractive men are. No, the norm is that killers and abusers are often able to fake a persona long enough to reproduce. Known abusers. I have seen women pick known abusers as partners. No need for deceptions. Better to be with an abuser that with a boring/unattractive man I guess. What are you talki…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:48 PM
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So? Women don't like autistic men. Should they have worse results than a serial killer or a man with a history of being abusive? Some very mentally ill women have a weird kink for violence and serial killers, that doesn't mean it's the norm. Abusive men sometimes reproduce more because they will literally enter into relationship by being deceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:40 PM
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There are a lot more women than you realize who are just fine with being the side chick or their man having a side chick who are these women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:38 PM
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Women don't "invest" more into cheaters lol, even when they do stay they often detach slowly, keep the guy around to use him for something, or they go revenge cheat. Yeah I'd probably do this if I was cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:38 PM
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allowing you to have side chicks or even join them...women will do just about anything for a fun, high value man whose investment in her is up in the air. I'm sorry, WHAT women are tolerating this
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:37 PM
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That's literally what you implied .....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:37 PM
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But they're likely autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:33 PM
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100%, most red pill men seem autistic which is the actual reason for their lack of dating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:43 AM
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God this is so autistic
/r/TheRedPill24/02/24 11:54 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:05 PM
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He had slept with 3 people before me and I was disgusted so I ended it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 12:16 PM
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A lot of people seem to think this isn't even possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:20 PM
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A lot of people seem to try and dissuade women from having kids tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:19 PM
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Your sugar baby will marry a man her own age once she's got enough wealth from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:13 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:18 PM
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Sugar babies don't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:09 PM
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For pointing out the obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:38 AM
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Guess there's not much point in trying then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:51 AM
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Breastfeeding is anywhere from 0-2 years. And most women don’t get pregnant the first time they try either, it generally takes up to 6 months if there are no issues. Point is, there's plenty of time. Women can generally get pregnant up to age 40 without many issues. If a woman wants a large family id suggest she find a man on the same page, or maybe go for someone older if the men around her own age aren’t ready. That's not easy and most women aren't interested in dating older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:13 AM
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It’s possible but I wouldn’t bet on it actually happening. That’s almost 8 straight years of being pregnant or breastfeeding, it’s a lot on a woman. Pregnancy is only 9 months, breastfeeding is only 6. Women can express breastmilk and then freeze it, that's also a possibility. if it’s really important to have a large family, it’s better to start earlier than later. Secondary fertility does happen and maternal age is often a factor. Most men aren't even interested in having families early, so wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:34 AM
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Well even if you had one at 32 then 34 then 36 then 38 That's also entirely possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:11 AM
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(can’t be a mom of 4 if you start at 32, unless you have multiples) Well if you had one at 32 33 34 35 Then why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 10:00 PM
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You're the older guy on sugar daddy subreddits. What woman wants to be in a relationship with an older man vs one her own age?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:31 PM
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As for sex, I got the experience throughout my 20s, hence why I have the confidence and experience today in my mid-30s. Are you honestly going to argue that some 20yo kid is going to be better at sex than someone with a decade or more experience than he has? That would be quite remarkable, being better at something despite having less experience. More sexual experience isn't better, it's vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:57 PM
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Where is your partner from?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:24 PM
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Women in non-Western cultures don’t have the weird hangups over older men that Western women seem to so often have Because they're motivated more to get what they see as a stable provider than someone they genuinely feel attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:22 PM
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I’m just stating the obvious It's not the obvious at all, most men in their early 20s have no acne, reasonably fit bodies and you don't need a fortune to dress well. Young women don't really care about money now, we can make our own money now so it's all about the smooth skin and good hairline now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:02 PM
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Taking care of yourself can absolutely prevent most of the common negative effects of aging. Sperm quality goes DOWN with age as you acquire more mutations, this is a fact. Men aren’t supposed to be weak, overweight, decrepit pieces of crap by age 40. That’s a choice, not a destiny. It doesn't matter, you're still older and your body and cells are weaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:01 PM
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Guess you are, but your sperm quality has still gone down.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 12:19 PM
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Young men are more often than not pimply, skinny, poor, and don’t know how to dress. LOL now you're actually attacking young men in a pathetic attempt to bolster yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:47 PM
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This is such a weird take because any man who even halfway tries to take care of himself is going to be more attractive at 40 than he was at 20. This is an absolute insane take, 'taking care of yourself' can't reverse decades of aging. All of my guy friends, and myself, absolutely look better in our mid-30s than we did in our early 20s. Doesn't matter, still older, sperm quality still less.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:46 PM
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Male prime is 30s-40s. LMAO no it isn't, men look best at 21-25, they decline after that. What about a fit 40yo? Hell no, 25 year old is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:36 PM
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Well I'll be having children via sperm donor.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:30 PM
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Again, all the risk and burden on us and everything is our fault. Why would women bother with men at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:02 PM
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Tainted by men cheating and by having kids, I wonder why so many women are shunning motherhood and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:06 PM
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Yet she's now tainted by it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 11:01 AM
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You imply that somehow this makes her a worse dating prospect
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:11 AM
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So if a woman is married but gets cheated on and then gets divorced, this is her fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:29 AM
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the point it's a red flag if she -isn't- already married by your age. This is bullshit, most men aren't interested in married until their late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:28 AM
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It's so funny how older guys shit on younger guys lmao such a sad strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:25 PM
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Mentally ill women who have personality disorders/daddy issues. Women who have extremely low self esteem and don't think they can get any better. Women who purely want transactional relationships and aren't interested in genuine romance. Green card seekers who want a passport.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:24 PM
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