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How's that going for you, out of curiosity?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:56 AM

Sure, but I never said all that either
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:04 AM

The man in question didn't even pay for everything. The key point of this entire thread is 50/50 But you are right. At least that woman had a part time job and probably could transition easier into working full-time and being independent
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:55 AM

a man is abusive, more news at 11. typical male behaviour licherally
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:52 AM

I actually once made a thread suggesting that women in financially 50/50 relationships should be then financially compensated for the pregnancy Rest assured that 50/50 lovers did not like that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:50 AM

And what for exactly love
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:54 PM

You personally said it's terrible. Well, I agree. Was I not supposed to?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:52 PM

It is a terrible habit. Maybe you should keep it to yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:37 PM

"Let's be real, 99% of the topics on this board is "100% men bad, 100% women bad"." I literally say the opposite in the post. You are free to re-read The situation concerned a very real woman financially abused by her partner - many such cases - and here comes some guy with a rant about chads. And then here comes you all like. You two are the same actually🤓☝️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:07 PM

Honestly at this point just scroll down the thread
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:57 PM

Strict transactional 50/50
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:51 PM

There is quite a large gap between traditional male provider relationships and strict transactional 50/50
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:48 PM

Babies and toddlers require near constant attention
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:46 PM

That man financially abused the mother of his children. You guys think you're being so witty and snarky don't you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:44 PM

I'm not even all about first dates in particular. As in, if only it didn't lead to not paying for the second and all subsequent dates and eventually to situations like this Like, why would a man that's used to splitting every single thing... suddenly not do that. It's a great deal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:27 PM

"Because after you have children it’s too late, that’s the point" They're terrified of paying for a date... but can't comprehend why having a baby with a man who won't part with 20$ for you doesn't seem like a very good deal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:10 PM

The issue is 50/50. It's not to most men, because men don't, by default, place themselves in financially vulnerable situations just to have children with their partners. Women do
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:47 PM

I mean, sure? The main point of this thread isn't that you shouldn't be looking for red flags. It's that this strict 50/50 dynamic many men on PPD constantly cream their pants about, is a red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:45 PM

Nobody said anything about loyalty
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:42 PM

Because the motive is different
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:41 PM

Well, no. I think, while belonging to a family unit that very much involves the mother of your child sacrificing income to take care of your kids, there is obligation towards her. The child is another thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:41 PM

No. Next
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:39 PM

What did the man provide in this scenario? Because it for sure wasn't finances lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:37 PM

Do you think giving the woman no break from house chores and childrearing is okay? Why do you get a break after you're done contributing for the day and she doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:36 PM

"50/50 is a perfectly reasonable thing and if women don't want that, they should stop pretending to care about equality at all." Oh did you think the cited situation was... equal? Then, oh Unfortunately, women tend to me financially vulnerable while pregnant and after giving birth. Sure, let's split that 50/50 too
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:34 PM

Anything but blaming the man, yet again
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:31 PM

Anything but blaming the man
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:19 PM

Okay. Imo it's mostly men that push that nonsense. I would like to see you blame them for once please
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:18 PM

And when have I said that? It's because of the woman's unpaid labour the man could save money - and keep it for himself Women should avoid being financially dependent on men at all cost But what is also true, men that allow their partners to bear the brunt of motherhood... are bad people. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:07 PM

Well, of course. But when men speak of 50/50, that's usually what it means. Finances
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:00 PM

Child support? It all took place when they were together
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:52 PM

"They forfeit their own career and money in exchange for being provisioned by someone else" "It is only logical to the man that he makes some demands in his favor. It can only be a financial 50-50" So these are actually mutually exclusive my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:35 PM

50/50 is actually fine, as long as it's intersectional and not just financial, which is what men often mean by 50/50
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:59 PM

Honestly, I very much wish you were right
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:55 PM

"This can happen to anyone, but I will say, if a man shows no interest in nor indication of generosity. care giving, providing, or looking after when you're just dating and especially if nothing sexual has happened...lady, why would you think getting pregnant is gonna change that." That's my point. It's men pretending otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:39 PM
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"And yes, it's her fault for not vetting him, because this level of not caring about her definitely showed up in 1000 different ways" That's a very generous interpretation - towards him, and very ungenerous towards her. Do you find it unbelievable that some men change after children? Or hide their characters until children are involved? "I do agree with a main message in your post tho. I too see correlation and i would expect a guy who is so transactional to be selfish as fuck and just dangerous…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:40 AM
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She did say it was a boiling frog kind of thing, and before she knew it she was trapped She also expressed regret over not discussing it more in depth but also... she also only ever expected her long-time partner to not financially abuse her Care to throw in a sentence about the man who financially abused her or...? Yeah I thought so edit: typo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:34 AM
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That is not 50/50 my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:23 AM
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What are they risking?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:23 AM
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Yeah, signs I mentioned. Stingyness edit: signs the woman herself mentioned
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:19 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:18 AM
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Equality meaning... that? Yeah I'm not even going to entertain you. Bye
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:18 AM
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Your whole premise is that most men who ask for 50/50 don't actually want 50/50. And I don't really believe that sorry. I've seen so many here dismiss women's contribution. I have seen many claim they would step up eventually But with stories like those, how can you blindly believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:17 AM
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Well, maybe some people. A lot do push for strict 50/50 And yeah duh, obviously they should adjust the financial split. That's besides my point My point is women risk a lot - doing exactly what many men here ask for
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 11:14 AM
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Red pill doesn't necessarily mean no experience though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 07:44 PM
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What's the conclusion here? That red pill men are inherently unable to date successfully? I think your allegory works better for incels, and that's not exactly synonymous. Personally, my boyfriend wasn't even an incel
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:58 PM
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Blow the money on shit, if we're following the red pill logic
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:37 PM
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Red pill purists are going to be telling me off I bet. No, it wasn't hitting the gym and improving himself - some people still insist that's all red pill is I'd say being transactional, that specific use of lingo, distrust. If you want an example, on his first birthday that we shared together, I took him out to dinner. On mine, he said he would too and didn't and when I asked, he strongly insinuated all I care about is money. He's just... terrified of being used (I tell him off for that to this …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:57 PM
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"Enough to consider ending that relationship & seeking a better one?" I'm not really looking for advice here. I'm telling a cautionary tale, if you will What do red pilled men think will happen when they do eventually get into a relationship? With a girl that genuinely loves them? If they stick to these behaviours, and they're laughably easy to spot, chances are she'll eventually resent you. It will cause arguments. Might spoil an otherwise good thing It's altogether pretty sad. Red pill definit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:49 PM
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True story my boyfriend has red-pillish tendencies and I hate that about him and it's made our relationship worse
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:16 PM
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I'm sure women will flock to a man who's proposing maybe investing more when she's already pregnant You're looking for a naive little idiot, and for their sake I hope you won't find one
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:54 AM
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Yeah, no. Investing the same initially does not work when you're planning for the other party do invest more later And I sure hope you'll be kicked to the curb when you come out with that absurd unfair arrangement to anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:42 AM
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> I'll put in more effort to take care of the mother of my child, but only when we're approaching that stage together. Demanding uneven effort in initial stages citing heightened risk later makes absolutely no sense. At that point it's way too late for the woman. Would you just get pregnant with a guy, fingers crossed that he'll treat you well all of a sudden? You guys are afraid to invest dinner lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 09:07 AM
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What cultures are you referring to? To my knowledge, women being rather passive and "courted" seems to be a pretty consistent worldwide trend Aren't a bunch of western cultures known to be egalitarian pioneers anyway? Like scandi women, I've heard it's unusually normal of women there to approach, split the bill, all that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:42 PM
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Times are ever so slowly changing. It's not just going to shift overnight - it's actually very interesting, we still carry some historical behaviours with us even though they don't serve any function anymore But it's also that, even now, women still risk more in heterosexual relationships. Yes, now in 2026. Which is also changing to be fair, though I don't really know how we're ever going to even out the reproductive burden So it's offset by men investing more initially
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 06:48 PM
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"Many men have also realised that (...) helps them get dates and to get laid and so they do it" Wow! So altruistic and selfless! Seems like you have a problem with women wanting anything in exchange for what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 02:24 PM
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> like how can women be constantly complaining that men are trying to get with them no matter what they're doing or how they look, good or bad, yet also claim that men only go after "attractive women"...? cant have it both ways.. lol because these are above average women talking... you're really not getting it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 05:54 AM
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With exceptions probably, but that sounds about right. How often is it that a faceless content creator turns out to be hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 12:54 PM
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Buy together meaning what? In my understanding, she contributes. Or you think women just get houses bought for? So same really goes for men...?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:09 PM
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You don't just get to "downgrade" and have simps. Simps decide themselves who to simp for It's actually not relative to the woman's attractiveness. Not proportionally anyway, it's a treshold. Attractive women get simps, average women generally don't Average women may get dates. But, to men, they're just not worth simping for. Even if that's all they can get
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:39 PM
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Okay but then let's not make it sound like most women automatically have simps
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:24 PM
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What rules friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:06 PM
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Not always it doesn't. Sometimes it's just seeking an incubator bangmaid who will split the rent
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:32 AM
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A true girl's girl
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:28 AM
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Thank you! I'm going to tell all my simpless friends too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:23 AM
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Where are my simps? I'm always hearing about all these simps So where can I find all these pushovers to pay for stuff? Sounds pretty nice. Do I need to apply first or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:56 AM

Let's not make it personal. These issues exist on a systematic level, and our experiences are really only anecdotal evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:33 PM
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It's the reason why a lot of slavic girls fall for italian or spanish men making cheap moves on them Because slavic men just generally aren't gentlemanly or romantic. Scraps can seem like a feast yk
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:40 PM
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They aren't. Selectively conservative
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:28 PM

They should expect nothing. Duh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 05:02 AM

If they live with the kids, about as undesirable as single moms Single dads' relative desirability compared to single moms is 99% due to them not bothering to file for custody Women should just let men have the kids and live their best lives
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:38 PM

It's like talking to a nympho wall
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:39 AM

It is gross. You think I like that? No I don't. Alas, the world is the way it is, for many many women Truly, good for you. But that changes nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:34 AM

In this orgasm gap economy? You're a billionaire in late stage capitalism and that's good for you, but your experience isn't universal. If you care at all which you probably don't miss me me me
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:22 AM

Okay female woman for sure. Men don't think about it as a positive thing, many do think they're using you while damaging you with their penises in the process. And you are risking more by having sex as a woman automatically despite what you may claim Your personal experience has literally nothing to do with anything
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:18 AM
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I am not understanding. Would you or would you not prefer to be used for your hole?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:14 PM
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Okay, so you would prefer to have your hole stuffed. Let's not be liars and pretend most men would be ok with that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:22 PM
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You're thinking of "getting laid" the way a man does. No sir. It's getting your hole stuffed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:15 PM

We know what men like and it's not no-makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:36 PM
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Well, you might prefer to be used for culinary dedication over for your hole. I wouldn't, and if we're honest close to literally nobody would
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:04 PM
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I'm not saying it was rape. I'm saying that, to me, getting used for sex is worse than getting used for money - for the same reason that, to me, rape is worse than theft
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:43 PM
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I don't know. I still think getting used for sex is much worse - especially if it involves a position as vulnerable as being penetrated. It's like theft vs rape for me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:54 PM

If the man is a chad billionaire and the woman a broke becky - like you're describing - then yeah lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:31 PM

You know full well women do help men in safe situations, everyday my guy Men's relative academic failure doesn't stem from lack of ability. Do men have significantly lower IQ? They don't. The current system wasn't made with women in mind anyway so I'm not sure how we could help anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:51 AM

The spill of this reply sister
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:47 AM

If your safety or life could be on the line academically... then you know what, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:36 AM

Because we are physically weaker but you men still want everything to be split exactly in the middle. If we could choose to be equally strong we would, lol. But you know we can't change biology, so the perspective of both being stronger and having no moral obligation to help out a weaker person in need, probably sounds like a damn good deal to you (in the same manner men want paper abortions because they know we can't make them be able to gestate - always best of both worlds for men) You don't h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:45 AM
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You can't thoroughly filter for contribution to household chores before moving in together, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:25 PM
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Or maybe she likes your resourcefulness and skills? Men's problem is, you think liking a woman for her looks is liking her "for who she is" but it's not. You are primarily attracted to her looks Ladies, if you have to use your good looks to attract a man, he just doesn't like you that much
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 08:39 AM
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Shifting the blame away from yourself for choosing to date a bad man... instead of a nice guy, maybe like you? Because you don't seem very nice. Kind of like a bad man actually I think it's bad men that should take responsibility for their actions, not their girlfriends lol. I'm willing to bet you aren't demanding they take responsibility though. Are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:58 PM
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They want us to apologize for the collective of women existing and not fucking them, girl. What else could they mean
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:04 PM
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Ok you won't be ragebaiting me today. Goodbye victim
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:46 PM
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If there ever was a war it's what men have done to women over millenia. But you only care about dick no wet
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:42 PM
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Most women here deny hypergamy, don't sleep around with chads (or like, at all), will split the bill on a date Like, what do you even want
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:26 PM
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Sometimes I think I can ever so slightly get them to see through the red pill rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:22 PM
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Gen alpha are going to want a bangmaid that pays for herself or a bangmaid that's exclusively a domestic slave and can't pay for herself. Like all men before them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 07:20 PM
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Maybe a few of you would always split the bill. But even the men I talk to on here admit that. Sometimes they'll let it slip they don't have a shot with a woman they'd be willing to pay for
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:45 PM
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> there are plenty of women that exist that have no problem paying for their portion of a date "have no problem paying" and "insist on paying" aren't the same. insisting to split will often mean she's not interested or feels like you'll expect sex in return sure - there are women who have no problem paying. but a MAN that's INTO THEM will pay anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:10 PM
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The sweet spot here seems to be that she's willing to split the bill but will let you pay if you want to ...But not for women. Because women know that a man that's actually into you will pay for the date. And why would you keep dating a man that's not into you, like
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:38 PM
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If she insists on splitting the bill she wants nothing to do with you🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 09:02 AM
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> The absolute clearest sign that a woman is genuinely into you—and not just your bank account—is her willingness to put her own money on the line for you Not factual. I'll only insist on splitting the bill when I don't want the guy to get an idea it could ever go anywhere. I know many women do it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:23 AM
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The plot twist is they're hags anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:21 PM
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Precisely that. Also, I assume much of their environment often knows they're transgender. So there's that And I'm talking about positives of "being a man" specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:19 PM
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They usually report both positives and negatives from what I've seen. Also their experience is pretty unique, and likely differs from what you and I experience
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:47 PM
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Oh golly. You know, there's a few men like you here, saying they'd feel better about their looks. And I really don't know, maybe it would just be true in your case, or at least you would like your looks more But no, you're not guaranteed good (or even better) looks as a woman, and it's not sounding like you'd be convenientionally attractive as a woman with your built
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 08:27 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:59 AM
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"A lot" implies a larger percentage So, most men and most women have sex. And women suffer a large most of the reproductive burden "Just don't have sex" doesn't work on that macro scale. Reproduction just isn't equal For men, it's not a question of "either don't have sex or suffer reproductive burden". For women it is. Therefore in that regard, yes - being a woman automatically puts you at a disadvantage (not all reproductive burden is related to sex anyway - like periods and menopause)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:59 AM
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I'm not sure why you think that. It's possible to have just as unflattering built as a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:50 AM
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No, a lot of men do have sex. A minority doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:44 AM
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You can have garbage bone structure as a woman. Even if you'd have thinner bone structure than you do now, you'd still look just as bulky for a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:36 AM
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Chances are you'd be a heavy woman then
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:30 AM
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And what does that entail? edit: also "how would a random woman get treated like a sex object in public" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:31 AM
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Repeoduction isn't a burden - to you. To women it is
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:15 AM
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In what manner? How does that work? What are the causes of discrimination of men? For women, it's reproduction as I've said
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:10 AM
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How does stocky build correlate here?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:08 AM
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Explain easy mode? What are some tangible benefits?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:07 AM
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I mean, if by human being you mean sex object potential incubator
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:07 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:06 AM
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You can still pregnant on birth control. If you're having sex the risk is ever present. There's also periods, menopause, and sexual vulnerability. Like, you will most likely have already been sexually assaulted in some capacity - by a larger and stronger individual, mind you And beauty standards for women don't seem all that flexible - all women men lust after the most (models, celebrities, cam girls, influencers) all have 90% of the same characteristics. Same girl with like, different hair colo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:06 AM
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Men over-glamorize womanhood. You'll read about those large friend groups and support systems, endless supply of benevelent simps - and be like uh oh, so when are mine arriving?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:59 AM
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That is anecdotal. Maybe they are good. Anticipatory discrimination of women is a real thing sadly
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:56 AM
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Yeah. Me too. I did add "to me", twice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:30 PM
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This is all sounding very vague to me. Like, I love the vibes. But the tangible cons are too much... to me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:26 PM
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A model? Do you have model's looks now, aside from height? If not, then forget it - wide nose and jaw, prominent brow ridge, and thin lips it is You're not model tall as a woman, in the same way you're not Kit Harrington short as a man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:24 PM
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It is you brother
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:21 PM
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Thank god you were born a man and you can't (or so you're saying) get yourself in that financial mess then. God protected you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:17 PM
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Yeah, no. Men have their own free will and might just get up and walk out on you. You never know
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:09 PM
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Yeah you're already sounding difficult as a man. Might be better off, cause all women are evil. Who knows that would have become of you. Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:08 PM
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Don't imagine yourself as a cute shorty then. If you want a true point of comparison, imagine being a 6'1 burly chubby house of a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:06 PM
5

Stay at home moms (or parents in general) are very economically vulnerable. There are some women who want that, but it's just too big of a risk imo. It's talked about a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:03 PM
1

The career thing - ehh. From my perspective, it's more difficult to get hired and get experience as a young woman because employers hate the thought of you getting pregnant and going on maternity leave Then you might have kids and they hate that too. And then you get old and become a hag, which everyone hates women for
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 08:01 PM
1

Why maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:57 PM
13

You know what? They are horrible, and all the more horrible when you think about it I know people scoff and huff at the idea of menstrual leave but... it's actually sick that we're expected to just work through the pain, bleeding fron our vaginas, like nothing's happening And it's every single month until you're over 50. It's sick
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:56 PM
1

Yay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:49 PM
2

Oh yeah. Well... yeah then? They are physiological and regard the reproductive system. And that changes what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:47 PM
4

Periods menopause and pregnancy are psychological now Ladies female hysteria 21st century golden edition just came out
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:45 PM
4

Reproductive burden isn't optional. Unless by optional you mean having your uterus removed for no periods, (and yes, there are consequences to removing organs on a whim - and no, it doesn't prevent menopause) ...never having sex, and becoming a hermit so no men can assault you Then yeah. Sure are great options
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:41 PM
4

What do you think are the pros?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:37 PM
8

True. A hag
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 07:36 PM
5

Because men gain more from heterosexual relationships while risking less
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:37 AM
2

Men sacrifice what exactly? Do you genuinely think it compares? Ah, so you're saying that women can wait until they've made all these sacrifices before being treated to a... date. Well, I think you must be aware that this is a shitty deal. Smaller investments need to precede bigger investment - otherwise you're just a naive idiot Bet it'd be her fault too if she gets pregnant and the daddy actually ends up stingy and unwilling to part with 20$ for her sake
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:59 PM
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There is a chance but it's comparably low ...And like, everyone knows it's a part of the social script. Which is why there's all that drama around splitting the bill in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:49 PM

Skill issue? Yours or hers? I'd say neither It's hard to explain. I can only offer my experience, which I've heard some women share. For me it takes really really focusing on the feeling to get myself there, and with another person there there's just more external stimuli - which is a good thing overall but disrupts that focus It can really be as simple as that. But you'd have to ask her specifically If you want to give it a try, I'd say let go, let loose, do it a lot and have fun. I know it's e…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:01 AM

For some women it takes focus. It's more difficult with another person there. It's nothing to do with you - I'd compare it to a sneeze. Sometimes you can just feel it coming and then it slips away very unsatisfyingly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:49 AM

I'm a very similar case If you want to make it work, I'd say you should go easy on both of you. Don't be too hard on yourself. Putting too much pressure on the thing ruins it, as you've noticed already noticed Me, I can definitely tell when he tries too much and it stresses me out too because atp I want to have it happen for him. But it's only getting me further away Can she finish by herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:46 AM
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Genuine question out of curiosity: What type of women do you secretly obsess over, and what's the difference between them and women you can have?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:13 AM
2

Sure you don't. And a woman doesn't owe you sex - because for women it comes with a risk - doesn't owe you changing her name to yours, having your children as it's economically inviable for her, statistically likely taking over most of the house chores I don't know if you specifically want these things, but the least you can do is acknowledge that most men want these things eventually Women risk and sacrifice a lot in heterosexual relationships. Vetting for stingyness is necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:03 AM
1

It's more of a disqualifier than a qualifier. Paying doesn't mean for sure he's genuinely interested, but if he doesn't pay it means he's very likely not genuinely interested
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:56 AM
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> If you’re a liberal baddie, you should still go 50/50. It supports your world view. Equality, down the with patriarchy right? But they know they can get men to pay, so they take advantage. Let me offer a change of perspective. It's not about one's attitude at all - you may offer, but a guy that's truly into you will pay anyway. That's one way to vet for genuine interest as a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:09 PM
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Statistically, there's lots of women who will split the bill. Maybe not the majority, but still not what you're trying to make it seem to be Date those women. Chances are they'll be on the lower end of average though ... You're not getting how it looks like from the female perspective. We also have pretty friends, we know how good they have it. We also happen to be on the internet, and see how much men happily spend on onlyfans So the whole discourse seems disingenuous. We know you guys pay! But…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:06 PM
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Well... men also have different rules for different women. Always have
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:28 PM

Men could just date women that split the bill. But they don't want to And since they don't want to, that piece of advice solves nothing and just enrages them instead. Like, can't we see that they want baddies to go 50/50 with them? But they'll never say it like that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:36 AM

Where I'm from, employers fear that you'll bail on them to leisure away on maternity leave while they have to find and train a new worker. They don't want that. They want a trained employee on the job and no fuss It's a real issue women face. You calling it a strawman is legitimately insulting and I'm not going to entertain your trolling any longer. Worst of luck, and bye
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 09:10 PM
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That's kind of naive. Men irl don't think about it in such great detail. They wouldn't classify this as a "traditional relationship" and they don't really consider a give-and-take. They just want you to do things, like their mom did for their dad
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:46 PM
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It's custom dude. I did not make it up And don't make it seem like there isn't a trade involved here because there is. Childbirth and related costs (lost earning potential), house chores that most women inevitably get the brunt of - that's not nothing. It just seems to be to you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:44 PM
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Believe it or not but I'm being genuine here: no they don't. It's usually a boiling frog kind of thing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:41 PM
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All this talking and dream girls get first dates paid for without a thought and all this nonsense When are men going to realise women also want to feel special and chosen and it's not just their little feelings. It's as simple as that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:40 PM
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If you weren't answering in bad faith, you would notice without me saying that a man that doesn't want to pay can just not do that, and on the first date If a woman doesn't want to be a bangmaid she can... move in with the guy and observe his habits over a prolonged period of time? But you are answering in bad faith so
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:34 PM
6

Dating men is fun because they work more hours entirely of their own volition but will somehow blame women for being overworked
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:31 PM
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"Hypothetical" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:29 PM
0

Both are gender roles, but they aren't comparable. A bangmaid for a few dinners is a damn good deal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:23 PM
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Dating men is fun because they compare paying for the first few dates to doing the bulk of house chores forever. Keep your 20$ atp and to the kitchen kitten
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:07 PM
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The norm is shifting, that's true. But as of right now it's still not splitting (generally but as OP pointed out, there's a substantial number of women who will pay for themselves)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:22 AM
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I'm not. I'm not arguing for or against that custom here at all. She says, be upfront. I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:19 AM
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It's nobody's responsibility to act outside of established tradition just for your comfort. It's customary that a man pays - or at the very least the person that's asking the other out - for better of worse. If you don't want to, make it known
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:15 AM
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Because attractive young women they want won't split the bill. It takes a while to get that information out of them, but I have done it before A copy paste from a guy on here, some time ago: "I defiantly said some average men could but that would mean lowering their standards quite a bit. Basically, to the point where they are accepting obese women or women already with kids, that are maybe slightly below the man’s level"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:13 AM
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Because if YOU don't want to split the bill, it's YOUR business to have that happen. Take accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:08 AM
2

Among other things. Not everything can be legislated in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:35 PM
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But I mean... it won't necessarily help men overall. Sure, paternal leave is nice. But house chores and being the primary parent is hard work. There's a reason women aren't having babies anymore now that they don't have to, and why men aren't exactly kicking and screaming to be the primary parent. When men want something they deem beneficial to them, they make it known
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:21 PM
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I've actually just mentioned that in a different comment! I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:19 PM
3

Yeah, that too. That's why it's so notoriously difficult to prove
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:12 PM
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It just doesn't sound sustainable. Whose responsibility would it be to prove pervasive patterns of employment? The potential candidate just doesn't have access to that data
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:12 PM
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Yeah, it's a difficult one isn't it. The only thing I can think of that sort of makes sense is giving men equal parental leave. So it's not just women that companies risk hiring. Make it a standard
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:10 PM
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If I'm understanding wrong, feel free to explain. It is what you wrote though - and it doesn't make any sense
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:51 AM
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Yes let's have a bunch of laws, doesn't matter if they're implemented. Same constitutional rights is plenty enough because that's writing on a piece of paper. Good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 11:44 AM
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Lots. Societal norms? For example, where I'm from it's illegal to discriminate in hiring. But young women might get pregnant so employers don't really want to hire them. It's also illegal to ask whether a woman has young children or is looking to start a family - but many do anyway Law isn't all there is. But that's what men are often hyperfixated on. "Men and women have equal rights" well, sure, but see above
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 10:34 AM
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At this point you're just trying to be different. "I don't understand what equal means" - okay
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 09:46 AM

No lmao. If she's sleeping with a man she's dating who has no intention of entering a relationship with her, and isn't letting her know otherwise, she is being used for sex It's just money money moneyyy with you. And here, now you know why some women insist on the man paying for the fuckass cup of coffee
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:56 AM

Having sex with someone you wouldn't enter a relationship with in a dating context is shitty man
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 07:52 AM
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How do you use someone for money
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:06 AM

> Artificial womb technology Oh let's not stop there. Surely you want every option women have - and I do too! Let men get pregnant and give birth, medicine is the future
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:24 PM
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Just adding one more "no" to the list. Fuck no
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:59 PM
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You don't have to be homophobic (or any -phobic) to feel uncomfortable being prepositioned for sex like that, especially if you just don't know the person in this way. You might be okay with that, but keep in mind that's *you*
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:56 PM
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If you're approching a person sexually, strange enough you're possibly making them uncomfortable, you are a sex pest and doing something wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:41 PM
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It's not diversion. It's a direct equivalent
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:39 PM
0

It's irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:38 PM
1

Imagine a big burly gay guy (taller and wider and could overpower you anytime) is attracted to you. He would like to put his penis into your asshole. So he asks you "Hey I think you're hot. Would you like to have sex some time." You're not interested so you say "no thanks". And he replies "Alright no problem!" You can try and convince me all you want that most men wouldn't mind - but we both know buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:34 PM
2

Talk to some polish men they'll do all they can to change your mind
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 09:15 PM
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Should have treated the wife appliance a little kinder then
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 09:13 PM
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Well what do you think this teaches men that believe that message? You're essentially telling them that women are capable of feigning love for an entire marriage and having a whole ass family with a dude they don't really love for some perceived benefit You think grandpa cared it wasn't love? Lmao. He had a bangmaid at home, that's all. It was a great deal for him, and he loved it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:19 PM
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Sure there is sexism against women, but it's not derived from hatred of women but rather older ways of thinking or certain not so well thought out of beliefs These older ways of thinking are sexism. Let's call misandry a modern way of thinking then, just so that the terminology is consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:17 PM
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You notice how with men it's always the incubator robots and never "we want technology to let us get pregnant"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:35 AM
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Maybe not but it should have been. Polish women used to be submissive because society demanded it, even if admittedly they weren't the happiest about it The only region I can think of that would stereotype women as somewhat dominant in relationships is Silesia Anyway, now it's just a pornified stereotype of a slavic woman, sometimes present in the west - and about as true as East Asian women being submissive pushovers, when their own men also think they're spoiled bossy whores lol. It's a worldw…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 08:00 AM
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Just answer the question brother. Are you an older man attracted to mid-teen girls? Yes or no
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:33 AM
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My dad is isn't rich. He's been working a minimum wage job all his life. But he'll give away his last cent to a person in need. Like, actually. I've seen him do it But to be honest I do get your point. I've once posted a thread about men's sexuality being antisocial, and many men agreed with me (though adding that their character consists of more than sexuality alone)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:23 AM
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That's a really strange problem to have man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:07 PM
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I honestly couldn't tell you the number of young (15-35yo) polish guys who are red-pilled and hate polish women. There is no statistic for that. But it's not exactly a secret that young men are going far-right, that manosphere channels aren't niche anymore And sure, let's call it anecdotal evidence, but I know many young polish men who will repeat all that nonsense. Often while dating perfectly normal polish women. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:05 PM
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"Memes" internet is also real bro. Real people are writing and reading that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:41 PM
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There is a growing (key word: growing, and rapidly) resentment towards polish women. Prove me wrong. I certainly can prove it Something about us being dumb single-mother sluts who prefer to bang foreigners en MASSE and force resulting mixed children onto poor polish men. En masse, or course. After a few years of that, old hags jealous of perky young girls Rings a bell?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:34 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:24 PM
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Men from literally everywhere say that, while hating women from their own countries Like, Poland? You'd think - conservative heaven, hot submissive eastern-european women? Think again. Our men hate the fork out of us
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:48 PM
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No, I really don't think so. I mean, that's the thread
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:08 AM
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I do believe another example of this is paper abortions. Men want the right to possibly impregnate, and simply sign out, removing all reproductive responsibility They know we can't make them get pregnant, give birth, get stitches, suffer motherhood career penalty because you dared have a child... Or, undergo abortion, which is not pleasant either. And so on So of course they would be overjoyed with no legal/financial responsibility, while continuing to bear no biological burden women just can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:17 PM
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The person who carries the reproductive burden should get decision-making power You do understand that what you're proposing gives men the best of both worlds and leaves women fucked?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:39 AM
1

Your love for money doesn't justify skewing the entire reproductive problem in your favour
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:12 AM
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Yes, there's already an imbalance. That's unfortunately inevitable. Trust me, I wish men could gestate Paper abortion wouldn't create balance - it would create a super-ultra imbalance
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:11 AM
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A woman that's really into you will want these things the most. Yes, being romantically courted by a man you have feelings for feels good shocker
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:23 PM
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That's true. But I wanted to point out there is an entirely separate case against paper abortion too
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:07 PM
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You've addressed nothing I said
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:59 PM
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It's a win some lose some for BOTH. You men want to have it ALL though, and think that would be fair
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:57 PM
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Are you fucking german or something? What's with that frau thing? I've already said raped men and boys shouldn't be responsible for pregnancy. German and blind?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:10 PM
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Oh slay actually
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:31 PM
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Giving men freedom to roam and possibly impregnate, sign some paper, and walk away is a terrible idea. Every man having casual sex, and during early-stage dating, would take advantage of that. What, you think they wouldn't? I am now noticing men find it notoriously difficult to emphatize. But humour me. Imagine you're a woman. You already know you're bearing the brunt of reproduction. If you and your partner want children one day, you have to sacrifice health and finances (lost earning potential…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:30 PM
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No! No, no, no! Don't you understand they don't want to pay? They only want basic human rights, like impregnating women and then signing some paper and walking away. Like how are you not getting that this is reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:21 PM
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They're already crying that women are picking the tallest and most good looking (lmao) men. See, she must have rejected other nicer men and therefore they don't care And you bet they're getting upvotes left and right
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:18 PM
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I'm looking at it from a different angle but I also mostly agree with you Sure, let's give men zero consequences for impregnating women as they wish. That is entirely reasonable and they definition won’t abuse it at society's expense
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 01:10 PM
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Yes, it is unfair that men can't terminate pregnancy as they can't get pregnant. There are also aspects of reproduction that are unfair to women, because they can get pregnant It's win some and lose some for both though
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:56 PM
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I think 1. already makes it much fairer To be honest, it's the first take I've seen on this thread that isn't bad-faith. Thank you edit: fairer as in the woman isn't blindsided and can decide whether to engage in intimacy in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:18 AM
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Its unethical and illegal where I'm from
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:05 AM
1

They refuse to acknowledge that lmao. I give up. It doesn't matter to them one bit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:02 AM
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Both men and women should pay for children they create
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:50 AM
2

So we agree that paper abortion is a bad idea
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:38 AM
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Maybe men should be emancipated and pay every single penny for a child they themselves made Take accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:34 AM
4

Okay and some people want children. Next
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:28 AM
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If he got fucked over, too bad. Wah wah
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:24 AM
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And they have children without having to give birth
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:21 AM
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We are sentenced to having to gestate and birth children though. Reproduction isn't equal But under thw current systwm both men and women win some and lose some. Do you deny that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:16 AM
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In both A and B women still bear the brunt pf pregnancy and childbirth. Read again with understanding and a touch of empathy. You seem incapable of considering others
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:09 AM
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And you think men having all the freedom to nut anywhere and leave resulting impregnated women with a signature and a wave goodbye is... being as equal as possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:08 AM
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Don't tell me what to do Signing away paternal rights is infinitely easier than having an abortion Oh no, having to sign a document. Their poor wrists, I mean, ouch
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:04 AM
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The thing about men and women is as much as you kick and scream about “equality” we will never been the “same” That's precisely why paper abortion absolutely shouldn't be a thing. It's a poor pretend-attempt at equality which DISPROPORTIONATELY advantages one party while leaving the other with all the consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:03 AM
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Paper abortion doesn't "terminate life". It terminates responsibility. Another party can't terminate responsibility How is it equity again?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:42 AM
3

Girl, like. That is not a serious conversation. Hiring a killer, okay
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:38 AM
2

If we were to get technical about this, egg is just the cost of materials Who would pay though?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:37 AM
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Let me repeat for you specifically then The "win some" for men is getting to have a baby and not having to grow and birth it and recover physically
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:32 AM
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I don't know. Can you put a price on health, human life? You can't even sell blood, and that's much more measurable It is at least something though, which is more than... any man here is willing to give. They all want to do, well, nothing. Sign away, walk away
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:29 AM
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Allowing one party to walk away with no responsibility, while the other suffers consequences for both of them. Is this truly equity to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:28 AM
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How do you put a price on it? Who pays?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:24 AM
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No, it really is just wanting everything for yourself with none of the responsibility You don't want fairness, and don't pretend to be concerned with it As I've said, the current system isn't perfect but both parties win some and lose some. You want men to have the best of both worlds though
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:21 AM
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What? I'm not actually arguing for having their testicles messed with, you are aware of that? It's a theoretical empathy-inducing comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:16 AM
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It's not "revenge", I really don't get where you got that from It's a matter of equity
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:13 AM
2

Okay and when a couple decides to have a child, both get the benefit while only one party pays the VAST majority of the price It isn't fair either
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:10 AM
0

Okay a man pays and what? It's a part of the reproductive brunt, and frankly a minor one I don't think men would enjoy of having their testicles medically touched along with each paper abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:07 AM
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So rape is a different matter entirely. Obviously a raped man shouldn't be responsible for the resulting pregnancy I'm not going to entertain the rest of your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:05 AM

It can be that malicious but it doesn't have to be. It can be as simple as personally wanting all of the freedom with none of the responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 09:05 AM
3

Men refuse to take accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 07:34 PM
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What do you want from me? Do I applaud it? Of course not But you are talking to people who have actual policy makers talk about it everyday, casually, on public TV. Worse, actually doing it! Actually taking away women's reproductive rights, right now, as you and I are chatting it up on reddit Do you honestly feel like Jameela Jamil is going to force you into a vasectomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:02 PM
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A bigger example and it's one actress
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:47 PM
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We do know extermists exist, it's just distasteful of you to compare a video with 28k views to actual governments pushing to take away women's reproductive rights Can you imagine how much of a victim you would feel in our shoes? Can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:31 PM
3

Yes I too love the 2026 mpreg
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:47 PM
3

They won't admit it but many men would start seeing dollar signs
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:46 PM
1

They seem to be a substantial number at least on here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:06 AM
1

Okay, blame a whole bunch of men who insist women hit it at 25. Lmao. Hold other men accountable
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:47 AM
1

It was your fellow men that invented the whole concept of the wall. Blame them. I'm just the one being informed It's so fun that depending on what's convenient to men, the wall both does and doesn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:34 AM
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I didn't come up with the wall. Your fellow men did. Cope I love that the wall is simultaneously real and not real depending on men's convenience. Schrodinger's wall
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:10 AM
1

I kind of didn't come up with that concept brother
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:09 AM
1

So cute assuming an average guy will treat you better
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:33 PM
-1

We get like... seven years in our "prime"? You get a lifetime to develop an alright job and a sense of humour. Get over it and take responsibility
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:29 PM
3

I know. I'm having my third dinner date just today with a 6'5 chad. My lowest this week. Imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 07:11 PM
1

I know that's the case for a lot of women but as far as piv goes, it's like... the only thing I like
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:33 AM
5

> tall ,short, broke, rich, smart, dumb, attractive seven truths > ugly and a lie
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:40 AM
12

Again, you are delusional about women. No, most of us aren't living the lush life you seem to think we're living And men definitely have standards, they just don't like to admit it for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:21 AM
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> and if men are going to experience rejection from women even below on the attractiveness scale. why not just only approach attractive women? I do agree that's what's happening. But what difference does it make? You're saying being unchosen as a woman is a failure, and in my experience it's actually pretty common unless you're the cream of the top
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:05 AM
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Men are kind of delusional about women. You seem to think that near every woman has a rooster of simps ready to brush her hair and feed her seasonal fruit dipped in chocolate. Basking in constant male attention, even if sexual. And once in relationships or dating, spoiled and having everything paid for That's only true for very attractive women As an average woman myself - and a friend to many gorgeous and also regular cute women - I can see who gets approached irl, offered all those things Appr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:45 AM
0

Ask any woman in a relationship with even a RP sympathizer. Like, you're so fond of these little tricks that do nothing but hurt me and cause arguments? How could you think you're doing something good here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:11 AM
1

Too much for me, but I do work and I intend to keep working. Maybe a SAHM would feel like getting out more
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 10:43 AM

My boyfriend doesn't look at other women. Then again, he only met my friends after we were commited. I'd like to think he'd pick me in a full room, but who knows Then again he's not putting in that much effort as far as traditional romance goes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:25 AM

Imo they often go "lower" than their usual type and take it out on you like it's your fault
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 04:00 AM

Men want the prettiest girls, always. I'm not ugly but I've some pretty-pretty friends. Instant invisibility. Or worse - they get mean for no reason? If you happen to shed the visibility cloak somehow, the only criteria regarding how men'll treat you seems to be looks. They will take girls out on proper dates, just not you. They will buy flowers, just not for you. There's also barely a spectrum - either they put in effort or like... not at all. Doesn't matter if you've been together for months, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:19 PM

I'm over it. It's men that refuse to admit they have any standards and insist that "any nice girl will do" to make themselves look pitiful and not shallow
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:13 PM
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> Interesting. You think men should be spending more money on women? One follow up question. How much do you think it costs me to take a woman out to dinner and a movie? Nowhere near as much as a woman loses by having a man's child > On childcare, what do you mean exactly? Because there is no shortage of very involved fathers. And most women still do a lot more > If you value your future income more than having children and a family, then by all means don’t have them. But that isn’t something me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:09 PM
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> I see that you listed pregnancy related concerns and I’m sorry, while men are capable of a lot of stuff, we don’t currently possess the knowledge or technology to completely change biology I'm not asking men to do the physically impossible. Finances, childcare, recovery - these are all things that, in my opinion, men don't contribute enough to Nobody likes to talk about it but women sacrifice a *lot* financially when it comes to having children. And I'm not talking about spending money but los…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:43 PM
1

It's quite literally in the post
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:51 AM
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> I actually think women have had some really sweet deals in the past but now they all seem to think it was all terrible and horrible Sweet deals. A near total lack of personal agency AND unpaid labour. Men are delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:19 AM
1

Hmm?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:44 AM
-1

The manosphere is also obsessed with being desired, for their looks specifically, and gold digging Looking forward to younger women wanting you for your "success" (money) is contradictory to that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:52 AM
1

Women work😉
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:19 AM
1

And licorice is probably delicious compared to shit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:21 PM
1

You really have no ideas?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:59 PM
1

Ah so doing chores at your own house and nothing and also nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:58 PM
2

My favourite part about being a woman is that nothing we do is ever right
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:00 PM
6

She'd be paying out of her savings for the rent once her job position's eliminated after maternity leave's over
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:13 PM
1

The lower range of 60% sure
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:09 PM
1

How did they sweetened the deal a lot?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:38 AM
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I mean, I don't know you, but you first said you like most women and then you weren't so sure when I mentioned a not so conventionally attractive woman It's very telling and just as common for men. I just have no idea why admitting to having standards is so bad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:29 AM
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You have standards sir
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:50 AM
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It could well be true, it's a general rule not a law But that 5'11 heavier girl with frizzy hair, her too? Don't lie to me, they are out there
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:45 AM
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My point is relationships largely aren't worth it to women anymore, men don't like that but also do nothing to change that That's my point. I know it's hard to imagine but I wasn't referring to you specifically
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:08 PM
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Talking someone into relationships? I've never said that I'm talking about taking actual action to make relationships worth getting into for women Let's not try and gaslight me into pretending men don't care about women opting out of dating
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:06 PM
1

Start off with fixing the intimacy & reproduction issues. You really have no ideas at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:01 PM
1

Prognosis seems to indicate these numbers will continue rising rather rapidly. Probably for no reason at all
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:00 PM
5

Taking action to even out the orgasm gap, alternatively respecting women's lower libido, offering other forms of affection Taking action to minimize reproductive burden & motherhood penalty For starters
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:59 PM
1

I'm talking about the macro scale and everyone's telling me to personally pick better men Like-
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:52 PM
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You're talking about "love" when faced with real measurable issues women face in heterosexual relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:41 PM
1

Other women have this issue
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:39 PM
1

Who are you talking to? Me? It's not about me specifically, you specifically, or anyone specifically It's observable numbers-wise, on a scale larger than the two of us here talking on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:25 PM
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Dear man, the problem exists on the larger scale than me. It quite literally doesn't concern me (in the direct immediate sense) personally. I'm in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:23 PM
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Advice is not invalidated because it goes against another group's personal interests It also goes against personal interests of men. Fewer women enter relationships Should I care? There's plenty of women that want to date regardless, why should I be concerned with changing the mind of random women online? They can make their own judgment. First of all, you are literally the personification of my point. I'm not mad or surprised by anything you're saying Also, random women online are also real I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:22 PM
1

It isn't when the orgasm gap exists on the larger scale
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:19 PM
1

Like focus more on the woman's pleasure and respecting their libido more? That's doable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:31 PM
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The advice is invalid if men want women entering relationships with them. Which like... you know full well that they seem to You are proving my point. "I am a man and don't care women don't gain anything dating men." Like, that's my point
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:27 PM
1

There is much room for improvement for each point I've discussed
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:21 PM
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I have given you my reasons🤷‍♀️ Life's not a movie
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:56 PM
2

Sounds romantic. Life's not a movie though
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:54 PM
1

I meant to say they don't encourage entering relationships with men though
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:50 PM
3

Friends can be fun and cost you nothing, unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:42 PM
1

I'll be honest, I'm not understanding what you're asking
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:39 PM
1

They are enough. They just encourage entering relationships with men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:38 PM
4

Fewer and fewer women. Amongst those, fewer are having children
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:37 PM
2

We love an abortion ally slayyyy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:24 PM
2

The lack of value isn't inherent. Men could bring in more value, they just don't (general) seem to try to
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:23 PM
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The thing is, they really do both. They do. I point that out in the post. Having the cake and eating it too, you know
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:19 PM
1

All these are increasingly making their way into real-life dating. Everyone knows what red pill is these days, and many many young men love the manosphere and conservatism
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:14 PM
2

Sure some women find it worth it but, increasingly, many don't - but my point is, men (general) do nothing to change it in either case
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:08 PM
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You're making it out to be an individual issue. As we can see, it's systematic. Women are deciding it's not worth it anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:06 PM
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> from u having your life together. to being socially and emotionally adjusted and finely tuned enough to handle her NOT being emotionally adjusted and finely tuned all the time. to allowing her to be emotionally responsive. while u suppress your emotions and remain calm under pressure. to financial stability. to looks. to intelligence. to fashion. to social likability. to etc and etc women are expected to provide all that anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:04 PM
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Well, not really Let's consider a relationship in which both the woman and the man both want children. Both receive the benefit of having a child, but the woman will 1. suffer physical pain 2. experience career stagnation and motherhood penalty 3. will most likely be the primary parent Profit = revenue - expenses
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:01 PM
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And that's good for her. Obviously I'm talking in general
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:56 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:56 PM
-2

Not at all actually. Where'd you get that from? Love, a family - these are all human desires, though women lose more and gain less from them compared to men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:55 PM
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Love often - more and more often - isn't enough, considering my points
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:50 PM
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It is both obviously. Not to the same degree Anyway, the real reason this scenario isn't appealing to women isn't even interest in sex or lack thereof. It's safety. That sounds dangerous af to most women, even those that really enjoy sex
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:05 PM
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Not sure. It probably wouldn't be inconsequential, though as far as enjoyment goes, women still have lower libidos Most importantly though, the idea of living in a world where all men hate you and also want to fuck you sounds... pretty damn dangerous The idea that men don't seem to have that association at all - none here at least - is bananas
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:01 PM
1

Yeah and that's not what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:18 PM
1

Yeah I never said any of that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:02 PM
1

Says what precisely? That he would rather be liked than have everyone, everywhere in the world want to fuck him? Because I don't really think so
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:24 PM
1

That is not an aboundance fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 11:10 AM
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Women don't put as much importance to men desiring us because we have generally lower libidos, not because we're spoiled with aboudance We would not care to the same extent men would
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 10:41 AM
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no, even here, they're all like "i want a slim 18-25yo with a symmetrical face that maybe has mousy brown hair and therefore feels reachable! that's like every woman thus i must like most of them enough"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 06:16 AM
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It feels insane to me. I can't begin to understand this point of view. Near every woman would choose the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 05:18 AM
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Cause we are the worst ever and love criminals and hate nice men who wish for nothing but to brush our hair and hand-feed us grapes. Something something sex with criminals and not you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:59 PM
3

It's the first time I see men on PPD agree with that view Otherwise it's calling women golddiggers over dinner dates, that they will often explicitly mention they took other women on before getting tired of it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:36 AM

I'm neither blue eyed nor blonde. It's not a race thing, even most white people have different colouring It might be silly, it's just not what I prefer visually. I'm attracted to the round brown calf eyes look. I think it's cute
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 10:51 AM

I don't fancy blonds, and especially not blue-eyed blonds. A matter of taste
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:57 AM

Men will not say no to easy pussy, approaching men makes it more difficult to filter out men who are not actually all that interested. This, big time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:43 AM

If a man once accepted poor treatment from a woman... say, she slept with a man who didn't do half as much for her but kept him waiting... does he have to put up with that forever, with different women, then? I never see that scenario switched around. Why is it women that have to accept poor treatment forever?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:13 PM

If you can't be fucked to put on a suit, what else can't you be fucked to do? If you can't be fucked to hold the door open, what else can't you be fucked to do? It's early-stage vetting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:18 AM
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You think you have it sooo bad don't you. Damn, a woman would tell you "fine". I'd ask how you're coping with that. But I can see you're not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:23 PM

A man is supposed to pay up the financial equivalent of a surrogate per every child he has then. There's no reason he should expect that for free
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:11 PM

It's highly unlikely that a man who insists on and is used to "50/50" will suddenly change his mind edit: let's acknowledge the truth that chances to receive courtship past the honeymoon phase (when there wasn't any during) are slim at best
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:19 PM

Again, I repeat: Why would that - acquaintance - ever decide to have children with a stingy man? What's the guarantee he will change just because she's investing more now? Women's investment is delayed - but also much greater than a dinner And now, How are you expecting a woman you won't spend 20$ on to believe you'll support her when she has your children?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 11:41 AM

Supporting children? That's obvious. I'm talking about supporting the mother of your child, who loses real money by having said child for both of you Why would that stranger ever decide to have children with a stingy man? What's the guarantee he will change just because she's investing more now? Women's investment is delayed - but also much greater than a dinner And yes, if not for the social and biological inequalities, there would be no "need" to court. However, some courting would likely stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 11:02 AM

What would you call putting yourself in a financially vulnerable position to birth a child fathered by a man who won't part with 20$ to get you a plate of pasta?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:39 AM

Because an average woman still earns less, and an average woman still has a child - pregnancy and childbirth are financially vulnerable positions. If we didn't vet for stingyness, you'd say it's our fault for ending up with stingy men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:34 AM

I want you to know that when a man makes a fuss over covering one date, a woman sees herself 8,5 months pregnant on the bus on the way to work. Covering any pregnancy cost related to her comfort because "it's only for her anyway". Then postpartum paying out of her savings for the bills cause her boss eliminated her position after maternity leave. Cause you know her 50/50 share needs to be covered Stingy men never, ever decide to stop being stingy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 06:32 AM

Some men much prefer to pay for an e-hoe than treat a real girl to a date. Why do I feel like many men on PPD would find that much more reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 06:18 AM
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Like, that's not vetting. Lmao You know full well they're not vetting for dead bedrooms by waiting until marriage and seeing what happens
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:57 AM
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roughly similar numbers of women wanting kids, so the market value of motherhood is about the same as fatherhood Depending on what "roughly" means, you'd be wrong. Research seems to steadily point towards the fact that men want children more than women do Reasons for not wanting children also tend to be different for men and women. Men are worried about the economics of it, women are worried about their health, childcare burden, their careers due to the motherhood penalty The numbers are droppin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:56 AM
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I'm pretty clearly stating most of the time average women won't even get a pump and dump? Which part of "big maybe" aren't you understanding? Attractive men don't as much as glance at average women most of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 01:11 PM
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Why uncircumcised. Not much of a choice as far as I know
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 09:33 AM
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You think it's delusional to believe that the majority of women could have sex with multiple attractive men if they wanted to? Yes and no. They can get sex more easily because men are testosterone-pumped horndogs. But you really think conventionally attractive men are going for conventionally average women? Get outta here Maybe and maybe for a pump and dump. And that's a big maybe You think it's delusional to believe that the majority of women can get free money, either directly or indirectly, f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:56 PM
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Sorry, but this is delusional. You people are delusional about the average female experience then turn around and complain most men are invisible to women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:39 PM
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A friend he will know eventually, if you're planning to be long-term with that guy. Is he supposed to think the friend is a hoe forever? That plain is not sustainable I've seen this go the other way lol I was talking assuming the guy is in fact loyal and good
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:56 PM
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Women have been saying that. "If he wanted to, he would". I've seen a lot of push-back from men though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:46 PM
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Women have this one figured out, have the hotter friend hit on him That's so stupid though. And then what? He'll tell you your friend tried to hit on him and what do you say? That you were just testing him? Congrats, now you are the psycho Some high school shit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:44 PM
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They always say to vet better but now it's crickets
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:40 PM
6

So that's it? Percieved value? People irl also have chemistry and fall in love, you know. It is something that happens
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:08 PM
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I mean, I think he meant in combination with witholding sex for some time. But then again a lot of men will just stick it out lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:04 PM
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A guy will put in a lot of effort towards a woman he is very attracted to or cares a lot about, not just lip service. I think this can vary person to person, but how would you say that looks like?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 08:00 PM
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That's an excellent way to vet people's overall character. A man can be an otherwise stand-up guy and not that into you at the same time though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:58 PM
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All that in 20 minutes? That's impressive That being said, it's not exactly an answer to my question. It can improve your chances but what I was asking is - say you're already doing most of that, (or less - you know very well not all people aim that high) and now what? What about the man's behaviour shows investment?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:39 PM
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The envy with which they talk about chads pumping and dumping too
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:32 PM
2

Do you maybe remember what was the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:27 PM
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Men answering this question is crazy cause they will NEVER know how other men are around women. They are men so chances are... they know. They might just not be honest about it. I'm still curious about the responses
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:25 PM
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Cause they would if they could
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 01:31 PM
2

You guys think every woman swims in chad dick and freebies from simps. I mean???
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:14 AM
1

A threat of... what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 07:59 AM
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Yes, duh. That is infinitely better than veiled threats of violence
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:49 PM

We got a detective on our hands
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:07 PM

I don't know but definitely not their following
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:12 PM

Numbers baby
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 03:27 PM

I don't know, I really don't There is exactly one (1) type of a girl 99% of men seem to loooove following online. But wait, the insta baddies do have different hair colours... You're probably right then
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 02:50 PM

I do genuinely think men have some problems that need to be worked on, but you can imagine it's hard to sympathize when most men (!!) only ever use it as a gotcha to rage on women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:58 AM
5

Or maybe just AMALT
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:07 PM
4

women don’t consider their peak to be when the most men find them attractive, and if it were, those numbers would unfortunately be even lower Interesting how they always go for the lowest legal age. Not even men want to be honest about men's preferences regarding women's (girls'?) age
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:40 AM
0

There you go gurl!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:59 PM
-1

Men created laws harmful to men and nothing you say will ever change it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:35 PM
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It's funny how you're actually doing exactly what I'm talking about but with me. Who cares about all these men exclusively talking about women's part, including you - it is me, I'm at fault Say that it was mostly men that created those laws! Just say it was mostly men that created those laws👹 Prove me wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:24 PM
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It's hilarious how the thread is about men not holding other men accountable and sure enough every single man here's writing longass paragraphs about how actually🤓☝️ women are to blame too! You can't even bear to as much as utter out an actual FACT - it was majorly male politicians created laws that are harmful to men. You can't say it, it won't come out of your mouth if you can help it. It would be funny if it weren't actually crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:10 PM
-1

Those poor poor male politicians. They can't help upholding the draft, I mean some women buy house decor and mascara
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:57 PM
-1

Then maybe blame some of these overwhermingly male money-obsessed politicians for a change, not the general population of women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:53 PM
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Funny how not acting like a brute = action But not having sex = no action Take accountability🫵
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:51 PM
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I did not say only women get blamed. I said women choose too Of course you didn't say that. It's just the truth Your point was trying to act like men are the only side people ever hold responsible, which is obviously false No, I said men don't ever blame other men, even if they are objectively more guilty - ex. passing laws harmful to men The second female agency gets mentioned at all, you instantly stretch it into “oh, so now only women are blamed.” No, it's the complete and utter LACK of holdi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:49 PM
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Women choose too, but only they ever get blaimed? Get outta here proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 01:53 PM
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Prove me wrong and go write that guy the same thing. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 10:09 AM
0

I think not being a brute is so easy actually
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:30 AM
1

Dude you are on ppd. There is a man complaining that "most women won't date most men" in this very thread
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:28 AM
-1

This is not even close to true It's true. Why do I never see men blaming other men for the draft, hogging the women etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:22 AM
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men have zero reason to do what you suggested And women have any reason to help out? Ask men to stop hogging the hoes You're incapable of being critical towards men as you refuse to point out their contribution to the "problem". It's all - "b-but women..."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 07:21 AM
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Your perfectly good question was based on an assumption and yours is just as good as mine. The point is, you're incapable of as much as being critical towards men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:28 AM
1

Explain your thought process because to me it seems like you're babbling
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:21 AM
1

I love how you're proving my point so prettily, now accusing women of making up male loneliness epidemic. Are you self aware at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:18 AM
1

Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:17 AM
0

Convince men to not be brutes!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:17 AM
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There always is a male loneliness epidemic when it conveniences men, and isn't when it also conveniences men. Schrodinger's male loneliness epidemic Just in this thread you'll find a guy complaining about hypergamy, male loneliness epidemic implied
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:16 AM
1

And how are you so sure what will happen? Ran a simulation in your computer brain? You won't even try it, won't think to try it is the thing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:14 AM
1

Women don't choose candidates, political parties do Anyway, you're doing it. Blame men who put those legislations forth. Why is it so outrageously difficult to do it? Even fucking once? Acknowledge it somehow? But you just won’t🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:11 AM
6

Evolution-wise? How? What wealth did our nomadic ancestors aquire over their lifetimes that could be so tempting? Younger men are more physically fit and therefore capable of providing & protecting😉
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 07:10 PM
2

I feel like for women the graph that goes around is pretty accurage actually. It starts off with a few years older, reaches the same age, and eventually settles at a few years younger Women don't stay hot and bothered for barely legal men just because that's the lowest it's socially acceptable to. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 07:08 PM
2

Dating a young pretty golddigger and having a young pretty sugar baby are very different things. I'm talking about the first one. Sugaring is very specific
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:53 PM
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So there are risks. And well, it's not exactly like women just stop being fertile at 30-35 either But since you're talking about "eliminating the risk" why wouldn't evolution have women eliminate that risk too? Try and get that premium 20yo michael phelps swimmers? You can't deny it's just better, and yet women aren't foaming at the mouth to mate with barely legal males. I don't know, kinda feels like an excuse man
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 06:48 PM
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Yeah, so like sperm banks are known to target 35+ year old men. In fact, they don't have age limits at all
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:07 PM
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The most controversial statement made in your post is this: We all know men of all ages want young women It's not controversial. We all know. Wherever it's legal, men marry and have sex with girls well under the western age of consent A LOT of women are in denial of this because they are made insecure by the thought that their partner may eventually lose attraction for them and leave them for a younger woman if given the chance Well, of course. Say, why should young women get into relationships …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:17 PM
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Men are simultaneously: 1/ Afraid of gold diggers 2/ Wanting an 18-year-old at 35. What do they think a girl like that would want from them? Which leads to an obvious conclusion: men are fine with gold digging, just for the right (young and hot) woman Another conclusion follows: youth and physical attraction are the most important qualities for men by far. Personality matters very little - men are not spoiling a woman that's just kind and respectful etc. In that sense, men aren’t especially comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 12:00 PM
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I don't know. As far as my personal experience goes, women have always treated me better
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 05:53 AM
0

And here he comes with even more buzzwords
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:00 PM
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That's no answer, just buzzwords. Taking accountability blah blah, never anything of substance
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:57 PM
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It's the exact opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:32 PM
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I've never claimed otherwise. Most women still aren't slim and wanting a slim woman is having high standards! There's literally nothing to argue about here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:22 PM
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Wear heels I don't give a fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 03:09 PM
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And most women aren't skinny. I feel like we're getting somewhere here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 01:34 PM
-3

Do most men want a same-aged (or older - I mean, women live longer!), mildly plump, average faced woman, past a certain age likely a mother too? You are aware that a cute enough next-door type most men want is most likely not average?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 08:07 AM
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Also let's face it, men also have standards, and often high standards. That's the point of this post
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:58 AM
-3

An average man these days isn't a skinny minny either. But they all want slim with a good face At least, when women want taller guys, it's statistically very doable - an average man is taller than an average woman by around 12 cm
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:57 AM
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A lot of the time, I think though I'm not a man, it's about the man's treatment towards the girl - a jerk who won't commit, at least micro cheats, etc I've proposed an alternative reason as to why it happens though. Men often settle for women who love them - but unfortunately aren't the 18yo instagram baddies of their dreams. Therefore, they quickly learn they can get away with pretty much anything since she loves them and won't leave
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:55 AM
9

Human rights and having your ween wetted are comparable to you. Dick brained🫵
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:38 PM
2

Oh free dinner and gifts? Yeah that's financial power for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:01 PM
-2

These are two entirely different situations economically. Financial power and life experience > sexual power, by far
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:52 PM
0

sexual power is no power. at best, it's barely power
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:44 PM
3

I love feeling butt ugly and unwanted. Every little girl's dream. All disney princess movies are about this for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:35 PM
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It’s better when the woman is asking “what are we” 6 months or so in It’s better if she’s sitting at home fantasizing about what it would be like with you while you’re in a relaxed non-chalant vibe and not too bothered about the outcome That sounds so fucking good. Amiright ladies? Where do I fucking sign up
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:23 PM

Men will never treat an average/below average woman like they would a baddie. Never, not a year into dating, not five years after getting married And yet they get mad when women sleep with them two weeks later compared to with some other guy Women need to be more selfish. Men don't gaf
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:57 PM
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Your personal experience is not worthless, it's just truly not relevant to the conversation. Disabled children are an entirely separate topic - that being said, you do know that primary caregivers to disabled children are mostly female? The fact you can so easily ignore all that is pretty disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 06:10 PM
2

Frankly, I don't care one bit about your personal struggles (do you care about mine?) and your autistic child is not relevant to the conversation. Women still put their health and lives at risk, carrying and birthing children - did you? As well as suffer an overwhelming brunt of the parent penalty, indirect and direct financial losses. Your personal anecdotal experience does not invalidate that, much as you wish it could apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:42 PM
1

Feel sorry for most women whose men won't put in effort from the beginning. That's how it ends
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 03:14 PM
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It is so easy to say when none of the brunt falls on you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:08 PM
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It is worthless, monetarily. Quite the definition of unpaid labour. It doesn't matter if it brings you joy or satisfaction, as of right now it's priced at 0$ Women should never put themselves in these circumstances, unless necessary (legal and financial) protections are put in place. But I can only imagine what the reaction of their "loving" provider husbands would be. Even in the initial stages: "why do you feel entitled to my money" Not only that, women should avoid any extra effort (birthing …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:46 AM
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It's a humiliation thing. They need to let themselves be humiliated before receiving effort
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:38 AM
1

It has been my experience. Still yet to experience, first-hand or otherwise, a man spontaneously deciding you deserve a date covered for and some flowers after weeks/months/years of not having to do that. Or anything really, because that's what the post is about, that involves as much as spending a cent
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:37 AM
4

For a vast majority of people the honeymoon phase is the best you're getting
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 05:30 AM
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That’s revered for someone you’re going steady with Do you really believe it? That men put in more effort as a relationship progresses? No they don't, and especially not men who establish a strict 50/50 from the beginning
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 06:32 PM
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I do understand that, in the age of dating apps, paying for a first date with a stranger seem excessive and unfair It's only that if a man doesn't pay for the first one, he's not paying for the second, third, fourth etc either. And before you know it you're postpartum splitting rent 50/50 from your savings because you dont have paid maternity leave
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:27 PM
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Men be like A man not getting sex exactly and precisely as early as every man before him is literally the same as women never getting romance ever Having to wait until the third date was the most humiliating injustice so that's comparable. Please say you would not be okay with that so I can prove a point (the point is me having to wait two weeks longer than "chad" did is the same as you getting no romantic gestures ever in your own relationship) That's what these back and forths always read like
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:03 PM
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Like please, you do not want to be penetrated to 0 orgasms for no damn dinner. Let's be fucking honest here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:35 PM
3

You wrong to assume being not so conventially attractive correlates to having unconventional standards. Often it is a lack of options, therefore settling
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:26 PM
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These marriages hinge on the husbands 1) restraining themselves from doing what they want 2) or more commonly, being unable to do what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:00 PM
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And that's all good, there probably would be some people willing to entertain you, maybe they would be settling maybe not. Altogether, a hag. Can you not see how people talk about aging women? Forget this "easy mode" you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 01:53 PM
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I certainly don't think the wall is real. I'm bisexual myself, and have been well able to find older women attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:35 AM
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Not only that but, at large, they don't have the compulsion to ogle men and boys half their age Men think it'd be all the rage being a woman on the dating market. Stop imagining yourself as hot perpetual 18-23 year olds. Sir you will AGE. You will be a HAG before you know it edit: chances are, you're already a hag. how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:02 AM
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It doesn't go both ways, that's the thing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:38 AM
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Men don't age out for their female partners the way women seem to. People eye people they find attractive, have fun knowing every day you look less and less like those 18 year olds your faithful male partner so lusts after
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:22 AM
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Your synergized and complimentary partner will start eyeing 18 year olds when you inevitably age out (after approximately a few years together - how old are you btw?)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:17 AM
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That might have actually taken some time to plan! Sounds great though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:14 AM
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Yeah, I don't know many people in long term relationships whose date of choice is a restaurant dinner. That's for more special occasions
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:46 AM
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Months? Oh my. What are the dates then? They must be crazy impressive Because I know for a fact planning a dinner date takes 5 minutes to make a reservation. Make it fancy and grab some flowers while you're grocery shopping, that's about a minute of your time. They're right by the cash register If you're overwhelming yourself with months of planning then that's on you, there's truly no need to be doing all that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:10 AM
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There is so much I could say about this single paragraph Of course there are women out there dating men who give low or minimal effort. That's the below minimum wage I just mentioned For one, these women are also clearly unhappy, it's most likely actively causing issues in the relationship and you want that? Pardon my french but I will never, ever understand the male desire to treat your partner as shittily as you can get away with. That's sociopathic It's my original point - I do get that some …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 06:21 PM
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The problem is that advice is contradictory to women's vetting and men are interested more. It's gay chicken and women simply win You know, for all this talking about deserving better treatment with time and commitment, including but not limited to financial investment, every woman will tell you it doesn't work like that. Men put in the most effort in the beginning - it won't ever get better If a man is putting in zero effort in the beggining, you will be getting less than nothing. Who of any va…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:15 PM
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skill issue i had much success
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 06:15 PM
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okay. well, i am bisexual and have loved treating women i dated. many women say that, we truly don't get how getting those grocery store flowers from time to time will set you on fire
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 05:19 PM
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Sorry abour a personal question, men are often hypocritical about this
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:47 AM
1

Are you a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:43 AM
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Out of curiosity, what does worth the effort mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:17 AM
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That's understandable but, though the post itself is general, it's more so about long term dating than first dates I will note that for many men covering the first date is a marker of physical attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 06:24 AM
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In hiring when you're a woman in her 20s/30s it doesn't matter. As far as they know you might get pregnant and become useless
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:18 PM
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Hm. Well, all women can get pregnant even if they're not planning to. Hell, all women in their childbearing years bear consequences of potential reproduction ex. in hiring, or accidental pregnancy To answer the question, it's very complex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:03 PM
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Well, no, nobody on reddit wants children when asked this question. What about inequality between sexes due to how reproduction occurs in humans? "Well, I don't want a child"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:19 PM
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It of course can depend on circumstance. I want these nuanced thoughtful takes under the many threads of men demanding sex on first dates
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:09 PM
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Wow it's almost as if this thread is a cheeky response to something
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 03:58 PM
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They’re terrified of gold diggers but spend a lot of money on women they’re interested in the most They're terrified of having to pay for a woman they don't even want that much. I suppose if she's good enough, it then pays off. Or they just feel good about treating her. Probably a combination of the two
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 03:14 PM
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Sure, that's true. I do take that into account, however, at this stage it can be a marker of attraction. Men talk a lot about "visceral desire" - why shouldn't women want to be desired? (that being said, I do understand where you're coming from and don't feel very strongly in particular about first dates)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:33 PM
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All that is understandable imo
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:12 PM
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It will be so easy for you to quote me on this then, go on It's okay you didn't read what I'm saying and therefore misunderstood in bad faith, as one does on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:55 AM
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"By “spoil,” I’m not necessarily talking about things luxury vacations or designer bags, but rather what the man can realistically afford" guess whose words are those
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:32 AM
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Nobody is clenching their teeth about taking the women they love to dinner. Yes, they're clenching their teeth about taking the women they don't love (aren't attracted to) to dinner Which is the base of my argument
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:31 AM
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And where did I ever say I expect that of anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:29 AM
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See, I knew you would say that because we're on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:29 AM
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It is true. It should be equitable though and not necessarily equal in each individual aspect. Is a man going to birth a child for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:07 AM
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And that's good. Times are changing, women earn money too, they don't need to be provided for. If we want to abolish female gender roles, we also should do so with male ones. Anyone claiming otherwise either wants to leave trade life or is a hypocrite. Covering the date is not the shackles and "providing" you think it is 1st - 3rd date should be inexpensive and dutch, unless I really feel the spark, or see she REALLY feels spark I mean, you've said it yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:04 AM
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Not really, but the issue is using that as a presumption of thinking you’re the one. I don't think of it as a qualifier though - more so a disqualifier. Not every man who pays for a date thinks you're the one - but chances are, if a man really really doesn't want to treat you, he thinks you're not the one for him (keep in mind paying for the date is just an example) Your view would’ve been more warranted if the culture around paying for dates was different. If a man paying was more rare then yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:59 AM
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Explain the last part. The courting stage is very temporary
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:50 AM
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Of course a guy won't have a problem spending money on a girl he thinks is "the one". Those who talk about going dutch etc too, they just need to know for sure, she IS the ONE. A girl i barely know is not my dream girl. She could be, but not in this moment. That is a fair point. In the very initial stages it often comes down to her looks and attraction though, no? You are saying this, as if this was not the default in modern days. It was always "a woman is the prize, you have to fight for her" a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:49 AM
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Don't you miss cinnamon rolls though?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:48 AM
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Tell me though: if a man meets the one, is he going to recoil at the thought of treating her to a nice date that's in his budget?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:39 AM
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Specialized effort is the most important indicator, of course, but if a man is actively refusing to do any generalized effort at all, that's not good either
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:25 AM
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Yes, that's also definitely true
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:24 AM
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You are putting words in my mouth. All I'm saying is a man won't hesitate to invest in his dream girl, however that may look like
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:55 AM
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No, it's not demanding, that's what I'm saying. If you're the dream girl, he will want to do these things naturally instead of clenching his teeth about taking the woman he loves to dinner
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:54 AM
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Gold digging and the gold is a dinner and flowers edit: I'm not saying anything but your speech patterns sound like a man's
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:50 AM
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It has nothing to do with your attitude and everything to do with his
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:42 AM
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It doesn't have to be gifts as such. It can be other things, but he will want to treat you well by his own volition
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:27 AM
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Sure. For most women, it actually feels good to be courted by a man they have feelings for though. I feel like that's common sense Women also vet for stinginess. It's not about the 15$, it's about knowing their man is willing to part with the 15$ for her at all. You do understand that if he's not, that's going to be a problem later on when she has his children and is in an economically vulnerable situation
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:15 AM
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It genuinely is
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:08 AM
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True. In an ideal scenario, both partners are giving even though they don't "have to" be
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:04 AM
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I don't know. It is a little different with "professional services". I think most women hope to date men who don't hire escorts, so that wouldn't apply
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:03 AM
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They are analogous and also not real. Women not jumping into bed with a man immediately doesn't necessarily mean he's unattractive and not "chad". Men do often treat women they date very differently, and it's not prone to change with "time and commitment" unlike what you insinuated in your comment So what I'm saying the two situations are not that comparable in the first place, since for men it's a matter of timing and for women the treatment they get for the entirety of a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:57 PM
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It's not exactly switching the subject, it's just that my opinion on it is different. But sure, you responded to a hot take with a hot take Then again let's acknowledge the elephant in the room that OP's hot take is a response to a great a many hot takes by men on PPD. There's threads advocating for chad treatment every other day here. I'm not seeing any men call to set a uniform standard for treating women they date though. They don't have one, and neither do they want to Hence the deliberately…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:29 PM

I don't know about that. It's understandable that you won't treat all your partners exactly the same - people change, age, prioritise different things You can definitely go overboard with this, wanting exactly the same treatment, flowers or sex on precisely the first date or whatever I can definitely understand men whose girl was all over her ex but is lukewarm at best in the bedroom with them though. Just as I know I wouldn't feel great if my boyfriend romanced his ex all the time but never tre…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:16 PM
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Simply put, you are attempting to discuss a different issue from the one raised in the original post. Sure, yeah. I definitely don't think OP is entirely right. It's much more nuanced, and there is much room for circumstance I don't see how that invalidates my argument though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:06 PM
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Sure, but I would like to say that the situation you described in the comment above is far from typical. It's not a matter of timing, like it is for men because she is going to be sleeping with you eventually - and with timing, it can genuinely be circumstance The insistence she should be sleeping with you just as early as she did with some other guy doesn't take that into account at all Men go all out for hot women but the other women might get Olive Garden - forever. It's never going to be not…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 08:53 AM
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Yeah? Men do that. All the time. It's barely talked about compared to the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:02 PM
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It's definitely disgusting, I do call it crazily manipulative. It also works very well and often causes minimal conflict - just a little bit of nagging from your wife before you get to live it up like a king. Hence my choice of words But as to what you're saying, somehow they're never this dumb at work
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:18 PM
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If men are so much smarter than women, why can’t they manage a household, or look after kids, or do chores without being told? Girl but that's exactly it. They're not too dumb to do it, they just don't want to and are just smart and cynical enough to come up with a way to have someone else take care of it. Weaponized incompetence is so subtle yet so effective and elegant Crazily manipulative though - who teaches them that? Where do they even learn to do that? Is that instinct?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:39 PM
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As long as it works for you, but let's not act like politeness is this brand new concept invented by me to deceive men. For whatever reason, brutal honesty is neither common nor "normal" in society, at least where I'm from
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:36 PM
1

So I assume - when you ask your date questions you always start with "by the way, I'm not gonna like the answer so and so" right? So you don't Lucy with the football them? Because that's how humans make conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 03:29 AM
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Hands on experience with a man does that for you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:26 PM
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It's called politeness. What you're saying is a face-threating act towards the man, and could read like I'm trying to embarass or threaten the man into paying. It's aggressive and goes against social conventions I really don't get how politely paying your half is that bad. Do you verbally point out each thing your dates do that you dislike?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 08:52 PM
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How is it game playing? I don't make a fuss and pay my half. It's not a test, unless so is asking a question and accepting the answer that you happen to dislike. Which happens a lot on dates
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 08:39 PM
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I only let the man pay if I can see it going further in the first place. That said, I will offer and like him less if he accepts I'd pay my share when I first started dating my boyfriend and I regret it. It really does set the tone for the rest of the relationship. There's no rewards, no "proving yourself" until he decides you're committed enough to deserve that date and these flowers. If you don't ask for anything initially, you won't be getting those, ever
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:02 PM
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Men will say things like that and then cry misandry because women laugh at them on the internet and won't sleep with them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 08:12 AM
1

And porn. It's also porn. All in all, the internet and tunnel vision for baddies. Tunnel vision so bad they legitimately don't seem to realise they have it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 10:34 PM
1

Just date those women?? What's the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:03 PM
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It genuinely seems not to register to them. They say most men are attracted to average women, but it's always thin young women with maybe an average face at best but most often not even that Every average woman will tell you life's nothing like the army of simps ready to lay down their salaries for you like men describe. Now, when you go out with a very pretty friend, you get to see it's close to the truth for some
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 08:08 AM
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This is one of the most troubling aspects of male sexuality for me to understand. I genuinely struggle to empathize here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:38 PM
3

Because we know it's not gonna last. It's only so long before your man decides it's time you start doing the majority of chores and popping out babies for him And do nothing for you anymore, forever
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:18 AM

Always blaming evolution but somehow women are able to stay attracted to their sour jizzed same-age partners, despite the TANGIBLE detriment on the expecting mother's well-being (not to mention the fetus) Men are just lizard brained? Is that what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 05:27 PM

God aren't you quite the nagger yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:54 PM
6

holy shit bastard discrimination in the 21st century kinda cool, medieval! are you a fan of game of thrones or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:20 AM
9

ill bite. why is a mans financial comfort soooo much more important to you than HIS child's needs and why the single mother's financial comfort matters so little in comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:45 PM
1

Too many men claim to hate OF and too many men pay for that to be true
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:54 PM
2

Hate? They love those baddies. They scramble to spend their last cent on them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:27 PM
1

Oh so it's abortion ban and no child support. Nice, sociopathic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:25 PM
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what does marriage even have to do with this? it's not alimony, it's not for the mother, it's for the child. married parents or not, there is a living breathing child that needs to eat at the end of the day are you saying fuck that kid so the deadbeat can hang onto the sweet sweet cash?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:18 PM
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Financial penalty will incentivize men to keep their cocks tucked neatly inside their pants, where they belong - that is until they are deemed worthy of marriage by a good woman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:16 PM

Telling of what exactly? I was asking to elaborate, not paraphrase
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:30 PM

Well, what have you got to say about married men scrambling to send over their paychecks to those girls? That they vastly outnumber?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:24 PM

Girl they're getting called slutty whores riding the cock carousel left and right, in what world are you living? Why's there no pussy carousel?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:21 PM

Elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:17 PM

No???
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:26 PM

Girl restaurants???
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:48 PM

No lmao it doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:50 PM

I didn't come up with any of this. When men keep talking about the wall and need for variety etc etc what else can one do but believe them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:08 PM

Why do you concern yourself with anything that's not looking after your own ass? Do you? Politics, social issues, men's rights, anything? Well, maybe you don't
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:00 PM

No it sounds like an issue of male sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:56 PM

Male sexuality. I am not a man
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:54 PM

So far so good. My boyfriend's past the wall (30+). Still attracted to him, we'll see how it goes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:52 PM

When I'm 60, probably yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:42 PM

And it's not okay, very much not okay. Not the same thing though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:41 PM

Thank you for your honesty. But how would you say us women are supposed to feel about that? Grateful that you won’t fuck the 18yo, even though you so badly want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:39 PM

We live in a society Kray. Many asian women complain about yellow fever and being sexualised
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:33 PM

There certainly are some I haven't seen women (at large) push for a social order that allows them to couple up with children though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:31 PM

That's true. I am talking in general
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:27 PM

That male sexuality is incompatible with monogamy and building a family unit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:24 PM

Why do I see far more gymbros with a chubby/overweight girlfriend than I see fit gymgirls with a chubby/overweight boyfriend? I see more pretty girls with average men. I doubt there is a statistic for this topic. Now what? Why do I see far more very short women date very tall guys, but rarely a short guy with a woman of the same height or taller than himself? Sure, that I will admit. However men on average are taller by around 12-13 cm. It's just not as likely Why do I see load of white male/asi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:23 PM

So you admit it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:19 PM

That is what I think
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:19 PM

You are missing a part impossible for them to stay genuinely committed to one woman and still feel satisfied Satisfied according to the base instincts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:18 PM

I mean, phew
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:17 PM

🤝🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:16 PM

Yes I can differentiate between the two, and yes I am STILL talking about the former Get lost and learn how to read
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:16 PM

Do you think, for example, high body counts are equally shamed for men and women? Women are societally expected to be prudent. No, I still don't think you're right
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:14 PM

Sorry for your loss
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:08 PM

You probably could differentiate between inherent sexuality and sexuality as influenced by social norms
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:07 PM

They probably think addiction, cheating, and household labour distribution statistics don't play a role at all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:05 PM

I suppose it could well be influenced by pornography etc. But, before it was readily available, things were not much different I think
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:04 PM

I am in fact implying many men would go younger if they could, and I have good reasons to believe so. You have unsupported blind faith in men instead
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:00 PM

Why are you comparing normal people to celebrities? It's a good point about onlyfans though. The models get a lot of hate, but men - often married - love them and love paying for them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:57 AM

By contrast, if a plain Jane leaves her Billy Beta husband because he's just not exciting like the bad boys she was with in her early 20s, society will still sympathize with the woman. The husband will be blamed for not meeting an impossible standard. I disagree. Women are more harshly judged for our sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:56 AM

Dude! I am talking about the base instincts. I am talking about the base instincts!😠
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:54 AM

If we were to talk about honesty, then I am highly suspicious law is the only thing stopping men from going even younger Source: western society historically and many societies worldwide currently
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:51 AM

But most men are not animals and can control their urges for the sake of a better society at large. And that's why I'm saying male sexuality seems borderline antisocial
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:48 AM

if they love you I would hope they want you more than some random 23 year old I mean... I would hope so too! I just don't believe that anymore sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:44 AM

Then could you elaborate a bit on non-negative aspects of male sexuality? I mean, obviously I want you to be right
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:42 AM

Women care about looks and are attracted to men their age. I really don't know what to tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:41 AM

Why? What are you risking more than a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:31 AM
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It's not all "just nature", at least in the way you're implying. Nature also gives us minds and souls, you know? We're people too. Women also need time to grow, discover themselves, get financially stable. We often don't know what we want out of life at 21, just like you don't Now that women can, they marry and have children older than they used to. The advice to settle down young with a "good man" because you will become a hag with age - when we will still age whether married or not with all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:00 PM
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So it's entirely down to being "ran through?" I understand a 30yo virgin woman is just as desirable then? If not, then it's also up to youth, and we are still going to age. If it's inevitable that the "good man" you're talking about will only be less and less attracted to us - and quickly, literally a matter of a few years... then all around it's a shitty deal
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:12 PM
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Yeah? With whom? 35yo hags? Hard pass
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:49 PM
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First loves are special in their own way - but when you meet the real shit, they don't compare When I first met my boyfriend, he made me feel like a teenager. Stupid clammy and shy. At that point, I didn't think I had it in me anymore but what do you know
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 10:09 PM
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⁠> Expecting the man to plan and pay for the date. If he can't or doesn't want to do this, that tells you a lot. What does that tell you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:42 AM
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And the mind of a red pill man is so deliciously simple
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:10 PM
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You have an issue with it because women want to be able to fuck every hot guy possible without having to deal with the very real consequences of sex Cry your wettest tears about it More projection. This comment gives you away. Women marry older, have children older. Things will be getting worse for you girl lovers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:07 PM
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Lmao BUSTED
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:03 PM
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We're all gonna be hags in your eyes eventually anyway! Trying to trick young women into giving ass up young. Get a grip Why would we invest our all into "securing" a man that's not unlikely to pay for only fans and eye women half his age once we inevitably grow older Better start developing a grandma fetish, cause the average will only be getting older and older baby
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 08:01 PM
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The advice is fucking stupid because there's an unspoken "don't age" rule which is impossible Fuck what red pill says, like actually. Be happier for it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:20 PM
0

And that's all fine but let's not pretend what I'm saying is coming out of nowhere - many men these days don't share your attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:03 PM
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Or they're showing they are insecure and have a worriedly low self esteem But once they "prove" themselves, the man will start treating them better, right? Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:58 AM
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She will date you UNHAPPILY. That's my main point. She'll date you, she'll love you, all while being unsatisfied with how she's treated It's a question to men, why treat the woman that loves you worse just because you can "get away with it"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:08 AM
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Yeah no shit? I straight up say it, what do you mean I'm trying to argue against it. Nice paraphrase tho
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:23 AM
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No that's not at all what I'm saying. Putting in effort means no self esteem anymore? Maybe it it's not reciprocated Accepting bare minimum is for sure self esteem though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:49 PM
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Yes, she will stay with you through bare minimum if she likes you enough AND has a low self esteem
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:26 PM
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Yeah they didn't wanted flowers because men don't like flowers, you're supposed to give something the other person is supposed to want or is aligned with what this person would want, like games, drinks or trinkets. And when have I argued otherwise They're not. They are. It's usually 50/50 and then switching between paying these days This is the most useless argument possible and ignore the basics of the situation: men are expected earlier with tangible efforts that the woman get and is not force…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:32 AM
2

So a woman should only expect to be treated well if she's super desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:23 AM
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Taking name is optional. If you want, you can, otherwise no problem. Many guys do have a problem though Differences in libido? This sounds like a sexist stereotype of men being horndogs Objectively, most women have less libido than most men. It varies individual to individual but that's a general tendency Giving birth? Well, if you don't want kids nobody should push you into that. Normally people should match their expectations regarding kids when planning marriage or LTR. No, giving birth is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:20 AM
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Yeah obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:13 AM
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Men don't get flowers til their funeral (...) but they still enjoy it Men online say that, but no man that I've asked irl wanted flowers. They all make a face (it's unmanly and pointless and stupid). Including my boyfriend, whom I asked, yeah As for the dates, 1/ Not true, men are generally taken on dates. It's a 50/50 world out there these days 2/ I know men are traditionally expected to do more in the initial stages of a relationship, and it may seem unfair - but women are traditionally expect…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:44 PM
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For every woman wanting a bad boy, I see many more complaining about bare minimum And as a woman, I can tell you for sure how it works between women themselves - nobody's jealous of a boyfriend that treats his girlfriend poorly. She doesn't brag about him - other women pity her. It's humiliating
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:36 PM
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I don't know about all that, when I'm addressing statements made by men themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:10 PM
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Well, yes. That's what I'm addressing, not something else entirely
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:56 PM
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I didn't establish that frame myself though. Look at examples below, taken off ppd You're not wrong that women like these things, but generally if she doesn't like you, fancy courtship rituals aren't gonna change her mind and if she likes you, then she'll still date you without you doing all that (...) then she likes you enough for you to just go on a coffee date or whatever, it'll be fine. Women make it really easy when they want you, in my experience at least, if you ever feel like you have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:51 PM
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That's not unreasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:40 PM
2

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:25 PM
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You might well not need them, to be fair, sure. I wasn't trying to be offensive. Things like putting in more care into her appearance than a man would, taking his name when married, accounting for differences in libido for the man's needs, giving birth to children, being the primary parent, taking over the brunt of housework They are just examples. Some cultures expect those, some don't, and the same goes for individual men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:23 PM
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Both what I'm hearing here and irl experiences & observations
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:17 PM
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Gathered a few examples, took one minute. I feel like you see it a lot on here You're not wrong that women like these things, but generally if she doesn't like you, fancy courtship rituals aren't gonna change her mind and if she likes you, then she'll still date you without you doing all that (...) then she likes you enough for you to just go on a coffee date or whatever, it'll be fine. Women make it really easy when they want you, in my experience at least, if you ever feel like you have to go …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:15 PM
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It's not that guys treat woman that are really into them worse, it's that these woman stick around despite not being courted as much Is there any intention to put in more effort once she's "proved" herself? Or just coasting?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:06 PM
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The thing is, I can provide examples, but it really does vary person to person Many men say a woman that genuinely likes them won't require much effort to date - and it reads like whatever they're capable/used to doing, she'll accept less
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:04 PM
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I'm mostly referring to situations where attraction and feelings are mutual though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:00 PM
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Just what I'm hearing from men here on ppd
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:58 PM
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Sure, I'm not arguing against reciprocal effort But these sentiments I'm talking about have a strong implication of planned and purposeful low effort down the line
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:57 PM
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Normal people don’t think or act like this We're not exactly on r/ normalpeople. But these sentiments are making their way into irl dating But if you’re boyfriend-girlfriend and dating? Why wouldn’t you take her out? Yeah, like. Why wouldn't you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:55 PM
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Sure, as long as you expect and accept the same in return + no rites usually expected from women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:53 PM
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I feel like that's a normal human response to an extent - when you feel safe and comfortable, you can unpurposefully get a little lazy What I don't understand is purposefully planning for it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:53 PM
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I don't really understand how it relates to the question though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:49 PM

Is the person who needs your kidney's right to live and your right to live mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:05 AM

Good cause I'm not obligated to share my uterus with any full humans deserving of human rights either
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:59 AM

The person who needs your kidney to live is also fully human and deserving of human rights. Give them your kidney
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:43 AM
5

Yes, but it's also more niche
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:07 PM
4

You can sell ass pics online. You do know that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:05 PM
0

The fuck did she do?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:09 PM

What does 6/10 entail? What does 10/10?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:04 PM
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You didn't catch shit. I asked particular men of this sub and never argued about with their replies and experience I would also like to see the same energy from you when men here ask women questions relating for this exact same thing for the third damn time within the same month
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:46 PM
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How about I ask what I want and you get off my ass. Why are you asking me this huh? Trying to catch me fishing? What for? I very admittedly believe many men are hypocritical about this and will often treat women they date differently
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 04:24 PM
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Well, there's nothing to ask if it's the same. Ultimately, this thread is about the differences
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:38 AM

Stay miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:07 PM

They don't care about none of that girl. To them you're making a bunch of buzzing noises rn. Zzz. That's what they hear
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:49 PM
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What were the differences?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:36 PM
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Just look at the rate they keep sending their paychecks over to OF girls. Many of them are married and would likely not spend all that money on dates with their wives
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:28 PM
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A lot of guys have thus unfounded ideas that women live this wonderful life of constantly being spoiled. They think men are sending us money, buying us gifts, paying our rent, opening doors for us, and treating us like delicate little flowers. Genuinely, where is this coming from? They think we're all getting handfed strawberry shortcake by simps Is this the models? Are they looking at models and think this is what we're all getting? Or are they just only capable of perceiving very attractive wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:31 PM
1

I'm sure you don't think you have to accept poor treatment forever if you did once though
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:31 AM
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It is kind of hypocritical though
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:29 AM
1

What did you do for her that you didn't for other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:28 AM
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What does the difference look like in your case, in practice?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:27 AM
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No? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:13 PM
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It's not that women don't want a man they're really attracted to to put in effort - they do, it feels nice. It's just that they're more likely to overlook/forgive it Ironically enough, it's like men punish women who actually really like them with less effort
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:03 PM
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It totally is. Expensive, pointless, they feel dumb walking back from the florist with them And you're ignoring when I say many women still aren't getting even that - well, dates that take more effort than a walk, to be very precise if I so must
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:57 PM
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If there's no dates and no flowers and no courting in general, then what exactly are the hoops?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:59 PM
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Well yes? I provided commonly cited examples of "jumping through hoops", often by men themselves? What exactly is the issue? Well I wasn't talking about lobster dinners either. And yet
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:58 PM
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Those were just examples how many men do you think are against going on a date with a woman (maybe against expensive ones) Yeah, I'm not talking about walking dates. That's not exactly much of a "hoop" is it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:41 PM
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Men are complaining about having to jump through hoops and women are complaining about no flowers and dates. How's that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:19 PM
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Funny how men would not be satisfied at all by the same signs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:42 PM
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You know what I meant. The same thing men are constantly talking about on here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:36 AM
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See, but I don't buy it. There has to be a difference between a woman that's just the type (even if at first glance) and one that's just okay It seems very convenient that men here have a whole rulebook on early-tells for the woman's investment, but for women it's "I don't know. You'll find out when it's time for marriage, whenever that is"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:40 AM
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No need to get so emotional
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 09:46 PM
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There is a separate thread devoted to just that. Go there
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:23 PM
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Say, first three months
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:15 PM
4

What kind of effort? Impress how?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:40 PM
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That's so long term though, after possibly much time wasted. Any short-term pointers?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:56 PM
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What does that entail precisely?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:41 AM
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Okay thanks for an actual response. I'm not getting any lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:23 AM
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What loving things do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:19 AM
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I don't know if it happens so rarely. Men on here complain about a lack of options all the time - so it's not inconceivable to assume they would often settle for what they can get. There's a subreddit for women that their men won't marry. We can also clearly see the type of women men follow online So you're not going to actually answer the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:48 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:37 PM
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Imagine how most dudes would react if women didn’t care if they finished every time or not. They’d go mental. It's actually sick how many men just don't care enough to bother. It's sick. Sick! Could you imagine? You sigh, roll over, pat the man's ass and he's lying there still hard? And then you go to sleep It's sick
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:37 PM
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The first step is honestly to try at all Too many times a man's orgasm means the end of intimacy. If he asks, she'll possibly admit to not having come yet - he'll be let down but he won't attempt to get her off Use your fingers, mouth, I don't know. You have options Women feeling the need to fake an orgasm when sleeping with a man, while the man has no problem getting what he wants That's the root of the problem. Men are somewhat naturally selfish and women are socialized to be self-sacrificial …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:59 PM
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They think it'll encourage us to settle down young😭 Bitch there's no point if I'm becoming a hag to you in 5-10 years anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:09 PM
3

I mean, women punish men who tell the truth, so this shouldn't be too surprising. Punish how?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:11 AM
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When you keep getting told you expire at 25... You know what, yeah. Yeah. You're starting to think you might have as well fucked around
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:44 PM
5

Entitled🫵
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:08 PM
2

You better show some damn gratitude for the monthly starfish then
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:59 PM
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To the kitchen right this instance kitten
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:49 PM
10

If women are entitled to want a good partner, then you are out of your damn mind to even ask about chad treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:47 PM
11

Damn men ARE parasites
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:44 PM
11

Comparing household labour and childbearing to being nice. A shitty deal if you ask me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:02 PM
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They don't appreciate none of that. That's the default anyway - the wife appliance should have all those features built-in
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:32 PM
4

No you move on. Nobody asked. I (question for women) was asked
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:52 PM
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Who are you yelling at? I've never done this and I'm not planning to, same as tons of other women. I don't judge, it's not morally wrong, but it can be dangerous. I prefer to build intimacy and ensure my own safety "We've just met" is a perfectly good reason not to sleep with someone. The upvotes should likely indicate people tend to agree
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:25 PM
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It means I've just fucking met you. Jesus
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:35 PM
1

Yeah, if your wife won't have sex with you it's obviously less than ideal. But female virginity is a touch complex thing to compare it to. There's societal factors, expectations, religion, etc No woman has ever said "I want my future husband's wallet to stay pure for our marriage." There's just nothing quite like that for men, not even male virginity But expecting the virgin you married to magically transform into a pornstar once she's said the vows is definitely naive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:58 PM
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I don't know about all that. But the concept of financial celibacy should imply a man will eventually start spending money on his wife? And I just gotta laugh. There is no way the man doesn't get used to not doing that. If you don't get those flowers and a date during the courting stage, you're never getting those flowers and a date girl! Men are free to be "financially celibate" but women should at least be aware what it means, and it's not what the name implies
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:48 AM
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I love that women worldwide stopped birthing children
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:31 AM
2

Doing household chores is labour that should be valued but it doesn't necessarily say much about how much someone loves you and sees you as special. That's why I was confused. That's subjective. I am talking about effort. This is effort
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 09:30 PM
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Because you think no effort from men = traditionally expected effort from women Because women's labour is not valued, it's priced at 0$ and expected for nothing in return. We know
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:43 PM
2

You're so edgy and real
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:51 PM
1

Nobody's talking about soulmates
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:42 PM
3

Men are much more likely to be slobs then
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:41 PM
3

Okay I see. Talk to the wall strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:23 PM
3

You never know. According to the poster, that's not the case. Neither of us know them, so I see no use guessing. Or are you saying the otherwise never ever happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:16 PM
3

I would argue that they're expected to take care of the house and children just the same
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:04 PM
4

No, because he married his "dream girl" instead of settling for one of those women and treating them accordingly. You know, like a man would
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:13 PM
10

That's very true because men will date or even marry you because you're eh, good enough They'll just treat you with indifference. They won't put in any effort. They're very capable, just not for you. They'll pay for e-hoes but won't spare 10$ for flowers
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:11 PM
3

What the hell are you talking about? God forbid you treat the woman that gives a crap about you well instead of your little bitter tricks and games?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 08:26 PM
1

I'm not understanding what you're trying to say
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:28 PM
5

Works for what? Because you don't need red pill to enter a long term relationship with a woman that genuinely loves you But I promise that if you manage to do that, all the red pill habits you've undoubtedly acquired will make her hate you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:19 PM
5

I'm explaining why people "parrot about how men should fix it with other men". Not because women can't provide what men can - companionship, friendship - but because they're the scapegoat
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:09 PM
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It's because it's BLAMED exclusively on women. But the solution CAN be solved internally. You just don't want to do that, but that's on you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:57 AM

To be fair, when I do ask, it turns out I have no clue what men (generic) actually want either
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:31 PM
2

A hyperbole. So do we live in a society or only when it first you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 08:14 PM
2

And you have agency to become a billionaire, what's stopping you. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:24 PM
3

It is as gay as it's ever been! I've never said it's not improving. It's significantly improved within the last 20 years alone, in fact. There's still very much homophobic families, bosses, colleagues and the works
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:25 PM
4

There's a significant enough number of religious families in pretty much any westernized country that I can think of. Thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:16 PM
10

I stress not once but twice that it's a selfish evil act and here comes you to still fight me on this
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:32 PM
7

While the wife is certainly a victim of the gay husband, without a doubt, the gay husband is usually a victim of homophobia. It's a vicious cycle of events. But you can't be surprised that in a society that belittles and discriminates against gay people, some will act in self-preservation Yes, it's still very selfish. But there's no need for beards if homophobia doesn't exist
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 11:15 AM
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I absolutely tell the men off. Caused a few arguments (it made them feel bad😓). But I also can't bear to just stand by and let the women in my family ovework themselves even more just to prove a point And yes, they are (or were, for the older ladies) all employed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:09 PM
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I'd go for it. Have a man cook, clean, and raise the kids so I can put my feet up when I'm back from work? All for the reasonably cheap price of keeping him fed and providing a roof over his head? That's a bargain But I don't think I'd be able to utilise weaponized incompetence quite like men do. I'd feel bad pretending I don't know how to properly put away the leftovers
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:53 PM
11

Some people here have never been loved and it shows
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:46 PM
1

Im the wrong one to put that argument to No you're not. Fine, you're an exception to the rule, have it your way. The general tendency is still that women do more household labour than men, and most of them work shifts too Even my dating partners now, I will go all out on those days. If your partner doesn't step up, and you stay, that's your choice. Yes and? What are we talking about here? Because I thought I am talking about men damaging what could be good relationships influenced by redpill? I …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:41 PM
1

And if he jumps to those responses, that's where I say it begins to enter extreme territory. It was telling but unfortunately not as extreme as you seem to think. Guys on here seem to think most women are hand-fed peaches and cream by simps. You wouldn't believe what perfectly average non-chad men get away with in relationships Most men would not go way out of their way. Like... when have men liked women that much to begin with, really? A generation ago, they were perfectly happy to let their (e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 09:33 PM

And they get angry when told too!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:29 PM
1

Were other things at play? Not really, not like you're implying. Was it a matter of character? Partially, sure But it was also clearly inspired by the manosphere. Every now and then he will complain that women use dates to get free food and all, all the buzzwords Except I was his girlfriend not just some date, we were together long-term at that point, and I loved him. Where'd it get him? He made me cry and caused an argument, of course - but I also won't forget it and make sure he knows. Best be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:23 PM

I'm a woman. That tends to be generally annoying to them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:35 PM
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The behaviors posted aren't limited to any pill dynamic. It is bad behavior regardless. Some behaviours very much can be inspired by and even stem from red pill. They're usually accompanied by very specific internet lingo My ideals were built off personal experiences, watching friends relationships over the years and from my own expectations in a relationship and were formed way before any of this pill nonsense or mansosphere. Ok? Not about you then? Every time a disagreement happens in a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:32 PM
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Yes to all this. I've been having this thought for a long time My boyfriend isn't exactly a red-piller but you can tell he's been around online and sympathises with certain beliefs I love that guy, for his personality (not that particular aspect of it though) and looks, I've stayed through some financial insecurities. I've never given him cause to doubt me These behaviours you're talking about have only ever made me sad, angry, and caused arguments. It's not even hard to pinpoint where they're c…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:39 PM
1

Girl, whatever. You're making red pillers sound like a high-discipline ancient order of self-improvement, entirely separate from their black pill brethren. But lots of you just whine online and it's the same fucking difference
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:39 PM
1

What we're not gonna do is pretend broadly defined red-pill sympathisers don't cry and beg for ass every single day
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:33 PM
-1

And women have incentives to give ass to fugly broke men? Think twice before demanding they give up THEIR privilege. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:20 PM
1

They subconsciously consider it natural to make demands of women and that women should do as told ¯_(ツ)_/¯
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:31 PM
-2

It's actually funny though - I've never seen a plea to stop hogging the women. Imagine that "I know you get lucky a lot, but spare some for me, or I'll start acting extremely hateful and write 150 think-pieces about the moral failures of all Chads"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:46 PM
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That's what asking bad faith questions gets you. What exactly are you expecting to hear? why are women attracted to abusive men Talk about loaded! Because we love to get abused. Giggles. They are so hot, unlike those nice guys that want to kiss our feet and brush our hair. Sex with chad, alpha fuck, sex, casual sex with chad and not you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:20 AM
0

You don't have to buy it. It's an objective fact that "generic you" is a common structure in colloquial English. Are you a native speaker?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:36 PM
1

It is a part of English grammar. I really don't know what to tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:07 PM
1

It's a "generic you". Not personal
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:46 AM
2

Oh they HATE the script flipped
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:07 PM
3

Yeah. An identity outside of being a bangmaid
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:18 AM
3

"The divorce came out of nowhere!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:28 AM
2

OP, don't listen to them. Like, actually. Just look up how few women can do with "normal" piv by itself. The truth is that we usually need more (stimulation AND time-wise), and she's telling you what it is. Don't let it ruin a good thing, it IS normal
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:15 AM
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Sure, but most men can finish just from your regular old piv. Most women can't. You insist that we should be able to because of your ego, and that's how we get the orgasm gap And yeah, for most women it doesn't merely take "a bigger thing" but for her it does. She's actually being honest instead of faking it, as many of us have to
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:11 AM

God forbid you make a woman finish
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:41 PM
1

Oh no your fiance wants you to do her with a toy? Steak too juicy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 09:11 PM
1

Getting closer to fetuses atp
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 08:20 PM
1

Address the man's unilateral choice to nut and we'll talk
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:23 PM
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Did you miss the fact that the vast majority of states still allow it? My country doesn't. I could probably travel abroad - which brings me to... If you can't afford to travel a few states over, then you definitely can't afford a kid. I can't afford the kid but I'm supposed to have it? And alone? Thanks I would assume these men were vetted carefully before choosing to have a whole ass kid with them. Take some accountability for who you choose to be the father of your children. You're acting like…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:52 PM
1

Did you miss the part about abortion bans? Or fathers leaving past the abortionable point - or after the child is born
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:40 PM
4

Ah yes, what we've already known - women are entirely to blame for men's actions. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:21 PM
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Wow, that's a lot! Men should take accountability for being shitty husbands if women divorce them at this rate
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:10 PM
3

Aside from the fact that many single mothers would have needed the gift of prophecy to avoid that fate And that abortions are getting cut-off (and fully are where I'm from) (Is this what you're arguing for btw? That they should abort them all? But don't men say this is already not taking accountability for spreading their legs?) And that it's male orgasms that lead to babies Nothing will change the fact that men abandon their born children and then get red-faced angry at women, no matter how you…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:43 PM
1

Men avoid accountability first by leaving and thus CREATING single moms and then once again by refusing to take accountability for what they've done and getting mad at women who stayed Like babies
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:20 PM
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If you believe there is nothing denigrating or humiliating about doing OF, then why don’t you do it? There isn't anything morally wrong about providing OF services, in my opinion. However, there are many things that are denigrating and humiliating about it, and they stem from social stigma We can talk what-ifs and what not, but it very much is the case If you were worried about losing your job or friends then if you had a magic guarantee that wouldn’t happen, would it make you consider it? I'm j…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:44 PM
2

Why do you think men should treat you as if you are the most attractive woman on the planet just because he married you? Yeah, why the fuck would he? It's only the ultimate form of commitment, there's supposedly love there, you're literally creating a family unit But I guess there are women on instagram that are hotter, a thumb's swipe away. Subpar treatment it is
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 03:09 PM
1

With a few major differences - to build a long-term relationship it's advised you don't sleep with the guy on the first date because it makes him see you as an easy lay And, you will be sleeping with him eventually anyway. 50/50 is usually forever
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 07:47 AM
1

Look, as long as you're consistent. My point is many men aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:17 PM
1

Yes, I know that once men find a woman that genuinely likes them, they'll realise they won't have to court her like they did women before her (who didn't like them as much). And?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:54 PM
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But is it wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 03:07 PM
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What you end up with is "I will treat a woman who genuinely likes me worse". And they know that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:51 PM
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Of course women on here will say dinners and flowers and other things usually associated with courting don't matter to them one bit - and it could very well be true! But most women would be happy to be treated to nicely by their men, I think. And there's nothing much wrong with that imo
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:59 AM
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You're being boo'ed but you're largely correct But it's not just women involved in this weird scheme. A man will very likely pay for a woman he really wants, romance her a little. We hear it time and time again, so it's hard not to feel a sting when he doesn't at least offer Men know what women want. So yeah it is a status signal to women, and men, and children, and your mama, that you're just not worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:19 AM
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That is true yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:31 PM
1

Slut
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:51 PM
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That's one thing. But nobody deserves to be treated like that. I mean, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:48 PM
2

Dude, damn. Well, I don't agree with all that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:42 PM
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Actually... yeah I can see that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:32 PM
0

Why weren't you simply worthwhile enough for your girlfriend to not cheat on you?🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:32 PM
1

Okay but have you seen OF statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:20 PM
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Just look at how many (often taken) men will buy sexual content, but refuse to part with 15$ to buy a real girl some flowers
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 02:01 PM
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Disgust of (women having) sex (with men other than me!)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:37 AM
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It's not always down to "standards", is what I mean. Sometimes it actually is just hypocrisy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:27 AM
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Why do men want virgins so bad? Do you associate them with certain traits of character? Positive traits? If they're so positive and you don't have them, then what does that say about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:21 AM

Courting after sex: lots of guys like it when they’re hugged from behind by someone wearing a hoodie That's very specific
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:57 AM

It means a lot, unfortunately, especially if you spare actual resources (time, money, effort) on them that you won't on your woman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:28 AM
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A man should ask the same question but directed at women. I would but can't
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:05 PM
1

Men rarely if ever use the word “settled”. I hear that much more from women. Men find many women attractive and it’s the first bar. In my experience - when men settle - they may not say it, but they will mass follow baddies on instagram, eye hotter women in public, and pay for OF subscriptions to a woman that's actually their type - but they won't spare a dime for grocery store flowers because they resent you for being unnatractive to them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:59 AM
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They've seen their fathers and grandfathers receive domestic labour, and they themselves have tasted casual sex and 50/50 And they simply want both
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 07:35 AM

To the kitchen. Right this instant kitten
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:38 PM

How about men mind their own business?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:34 PM

I just want the same opportunities and that my grandfathers had What opportunities did your grandfathers have that you don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:32 PM
5

High risk, high reward
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:55 AM
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I don't think it's necessarily a matter of abusive mentality, or even character. It's socialization I won't pretend it's not improving though. Then again, so is women's active participation in courting and financial contribution down the line
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:52 AM
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I'll tell you why women would usually want at least a bit of romance, full honesty. This is a reply I've just received, responding to me saying that most men don't do romance anyway: because most men settle and do not get the woman they find attractive in their life. so what romance? It's called vetting, to make sure you're not binding yourself to someone who doesn't actually like you at all. Men seem to like romance just fine for the right woman, they just don't usually want to admit it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:46 AM
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And here it is. I love and hate when men admit it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:29 AM
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What good is "wanting" kids if you still don't take care of them equally? Because this is what happens a lot of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:28 AM
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It can be a race to the top, if both parties put in sufficient effort - and not just during the courting stage
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:24 AM
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So what's all this snotty whining for?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:17 AM
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You’re receiving benefits before having to commit to having children anyway, it’s not like every guy who is romantic is expecting all of those things eithe Because ripping a new one for a baby you will have to be the primary parent for (while holding down a job, mind you) is a much more risky investment than what, paying for dinner twice and clenching your ass about it for the rest of the relationship It can’t be fun being that greedy, at some point it must hurt because reality can’t possibly fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:16 AM
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I hate breaking it to you - most men aren't doing romance either
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:09 AM
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At least the man gets to keep an unripped penis, and doesn't get his career mother-penalitified It's actually sick that for all your demands, and all the "consequences" women suffer, you can't even do a little romance without whining
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 07:08 AM
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No problem! Now to the kitchen jolly fellow
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:54 AM
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Men also produce children and live at their homes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:54 AM
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I'm adding to it. It's context-less
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:52 AM
2

We want all the romance we can get for the brief period of time before the man decides it's time you cook clean and birth his kids while holding down a full time job🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:49 AM
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Shoot
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:11 AM
2

A man that is much better looking like an 8 or 9 dating a 4 or 5 woman That barely ever happens, be so for real
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 08:41 PM
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I'll cut in - it's perfectly fine, thank you My boyfriend was also vulnerable with me, given the unemployment thing and some health anxieties. I don't know what else to tell you but to touch grass Men say they're not allowed to cry but they're also not allowed to do a great many number of things. Not stopping them though
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 04:05 PM
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You people want to be miserable so bad
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:47 PM
-3

Well, he was no incel. I don't know if he spelunked in pussy but he was no incel. Some of his friends seem to have more game, some significantly less. Now what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:04 PM
1

What nature? Come on don't be so vague
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 12:03 PM
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How would getting into a relationship with a woman that genuinely loves him for who he is reinforce redpill ideas? Is what I don't get
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:10 AM
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Can women stop using the incel term incorrectly? Incel means involuntarily celibate. Of course a guy that has a fucking girlfriend is not an incel. I meant that he wasn't an incel before he met me either
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:47 AM
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Right. Looks are a certain treshold, but most people wouldn't date someone just because they're attracted to them. I know I found my bf instantly attractive but I also loved his personality. We vibed. I wouldn't entertain the relationship if that wasn't the case
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:56 PM
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Who knows. I know I don't like it. But aside from that, going pretty strong🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:10 PM
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Maybe I should have specified "a happy relationship". Obviously if they're not happy with the woman they're dating, well... It would only reinforce their worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:03 PM
2

Well, my boyfriend is in a relationship and yet. I know he's not the only one. What gives?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:58 PM

Ah yes, the average conversation with a man on PPD. They call you dumb and stupid and call it a day - another intellectual victory yet
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:30 PM

No, you And all the men crying about being nagged as they leave the kitchen to have dinner cooked for them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:00 PM

30 year olds? Many would be. 25 year olds? Not many would be I met my boyfriend when I was 26 and he was 31. He was very surprised to find out he was the oldest age I would go for at the time The youngest he said he would go for is 21😂 What a way to feel like a hag, being whole 5 years younger than him. Men - go figure🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:58 AM

She admitted to nagging a useless man
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 06:41 AM

He's not getting abused, he's getting dinner cooked for
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:43 PM
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Yes because you think being exploited for sex, reproduction and labour by your very much peasant husband due to being economically and socially dependent on him... is not that serious. We have nothing to talk about
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:03 PM
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They'll call it a cock carousel lol, they hate everything women do because they hate women and don't consider us real people. The sheer audacity to expect sexual loyalty from a grown human being on the basis of what? On the basis of nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 01:03 PM
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Because they don't want to cater. Duh. They want to be catered to. And because their priority is sex, they prioritise sexual exclusivity. Best if provided with no effort whatsoever on their part Men for real think we can't see right through their little no-label games
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 12:56 PM
1

I matched the tone but it's not just baseless snark Funny how men lose their shit when they have to give anything from themselves at all. Be her boyfriend or know your place in her roster
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 10:04 PM
2

They never do they just call you dumb and stupid and call it a day
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:38 PM
2

This seems like a long winded attempt to have a girlfriend without being a boyfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 04:32 PM
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I didn’t know how to gracefully extract myself from the conversation without coming across like I have some kind of split personality, so I just mumbled something like, "Yeah. I guess we’ll make do with this. I’m going to start dinner.” He seemed relieved it was over and he left the kitchen. manchild
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 10:51 AM
1

Okay and women were predominantly raped at war, like veeery predominantly. But also during peacetime🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:14 PM
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Newsflash: women also worked in terrible conditions. And died at war I can't take modern feminist nonsense seriously. You don't have to take women's historical suffering and lack of agency through enforced dependence on their husbands seriously. Doesn't change the fact that it happened
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 10:34 AM
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Men didn't suffer the sexual, reproductive, domestic, and financial abuse from their wives that women did from their husbands And no, men and women of the same class didn't have equal chances to climb the social hierarchy to the best of their limited abilities
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 09:01 AM
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Because women were famously unharmed by war. Not to mention the other, everyday, things like... a lifetime of sexual abuse, lack of access to education compared to men of similar status... Etc The history of working class women (and higher class women but to a lesser extent) in Eastern Europe is bleak. Yes, generally much bleaker compered to men. I am Eastern European too
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:38 AM
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I wouldn't really know as I don't hook-up with randos, nor do I have any desire to (probably an answer in itself) It's probably a thing though. Even if not quite as good as being with someone you have actual feelings for
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:36 AM
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the narrative of women’s millennia of oppression is not accurate Second best voted comment as I'm writing this. Women should never, ever be an ounce sympathetic to men's issues (what issues btw)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 05:44 PM

I'm lucky enough to be bisexual. Women that liked me usually treated me solid, which I think makes sense, but maybe that's just me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:48 PM

Men get tired of and cheat on their beautiful girlfriends all the time, that's true. But still, at least they get a taste of being loved like that, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:37 PM

Actually it’s funny because in my experience the more attractive women tend to have better personalities and less bitter so equally I do more for them as well Just as good looking men can get by with the bare minimum so can good looking women because it’s a competition to get their attention from line up or constant suitors So are they much nicer, or do they act like they can get away with shit? Which is it? Maybe it's just that you give them more slack?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:33 PM

Thank you for your answer then
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:09 PM

Once you're in a relationship, your actions/behaviors will drive how your man treats you versus just your looks Really? I'm being so anecdotal but it feels like once they get used to treating you at a certain standard, usually dictated by that initial courting phase, the effort can only go lower
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:04 PM

A lot of guys complain that the women they want to date will make them jump through hoops that Chad never had to because he’s hot, and they consider that unfair I was never talking about that though. You're the one talking about it And yes, it is fair to feel lesser than when you know your partner doesn't treat you the same they did their exes. I don't think that's a blackpill relevation at all Are you confirming what I'm thinking then? It is the looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 10:01 PM

I mean, I don't know. How would I even ask that And how come it's the same, I'm not following It's still expecting a stranger who wants nothing to do with you romantically to fuck and date you vs wanting to be treated nicely by a person who supposedly loves you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:38 PM

I don't know if it's the same. I think it's a huge difference who you're receiving this treatment from Case one, a stranger. Case two, your significant other
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:31 PM

Fair
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:28 PM

Commitment past the initial stage also, in your experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:17 PM

There are degrees to this, yeah. But I mostly meant not ideal. Average. Just like, normal
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:17 PM

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:12 PM

If you’re a normal-looking woman standing on the outside looking in, I get that it’d be jealousy-inducing It is Just look at the blackpillers hooting about Chad for a parallel Yeah. But - and yeah, maybe it's just me, that's why I'm asking - it's different struggles. Getting into the relationship in the first place vs the treatment you get once in the relationship A person you're not in a relationship with doesn't owe you anything. But the person you're dating, well, you'd expect them to treat y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:11 PM

But for her to be grateful, there needs to be effort she could be grateful for. What comes first?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:04 PM

So which is the deciding factor?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:03 PM

I think you might be misunderstanding the question. It's about what makes a man treat woman in a certain way
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:03 PM

Hmm but that's not really the answer to my question though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:00 PM
3

Men wanting casual sex wasn't my concern though. The way some of them very loudly wish they could go about having it was
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 09:25 PM
-6

In general, compared to men, meh. Especially casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 09:21 PM
-2

considering women enjoy sex to Meh
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 09:19 PM
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I am. Heterosexual women are attracted to men, and many of those men once in relationships treat them bad. What makes you think that men who can't get women would be any better? Because all I'm seeing is jealousy that they can't get away with the things other men get away with
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 09:13 PM
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Mens behaviour is womens fault.... somehow..... anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 09:03 PM
5

Women are evil because men they get with treat them bad🤓👆
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 09:00 PM
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Men tend to envy abusive men and automatically assume that abusive man = hot man Oh my god, this. The way men on PPD talk, with seething jealousy, of being unable to pump and dump and treat women as badly as they wish they could It's crazy. I can barely believe what I read here sometimes. A bunch of aspiring sex pests
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:44 PM
1

Or maybe the data confirms men bad🤓
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:37 PM
2

Try less obvious ragebait the next time
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 06:39 AM
1

In theory. Because in reality my friend would have just done it instead, and she had her hands absolutely full. And in the moment, I cared about her more than about the principle. Is this so unbelievable to you people? I was also younger back then. Maybe today it would be different Why are none of you wondering why he felt so comfortable having some woman, any woman because we had no relationship outside of him dating my friend, iron his shirt? You know he wouldn't ask this of a man. Huh? How ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:50 PM
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Exactly the point I'm making
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:06 PM
2

Outrageous, unbelievable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:52 AM
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At least you agree! I am waiting for personal agency (male) warriors to come fight me on this though. Clutching their concealers!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:59 AM
2

Ohh so we do live in society
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:27 AM
8

Aha, this is my moment If women can break free from societal norms entirely and establish a strict 50/50 division of household labour or just not be in relationships (what all men on PPD screeched at me just recently) Men can wear make-up!💅🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:18 AM
1

Yes I do and social norms are still a thing, no matter how much you screech about personal agency. They influence much in your life btw, including what you eat and wear
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:55 PM
1

pursue below average women then
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 09:51 PM
0

Yes I made up women doing significantly more household labour than men. It was me all this time. You got me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:05 PM
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Yes yes it's made up, outdated, made up and in fact probably has never been a thing whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:03 PM

But the number of women in those jobs is increasing as well
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:54 PM

Men are so selfless fr
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:52 PM

How are you getting all this from what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:49 PM

It is getting more egalitarian, I meant the reason
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:37 PM

I'm going off of the assumption that very few people would want to take over responsibilities they didn't have before with no benefits (such as income in regards to women)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:33 PM

I mean, women do want half the wealth though, and work for it. We are slowly getting there because women want it We're not slowly getting to minimizing the chore gap because men want to clean more
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:52 PM
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Start dating and buying flowers for mid girls you'd usually only be happy to fuck then
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:47 AM
0

Seems like you did too then! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:43 AM
1

Public services do that for me. Now apron on and to the kitchen smartass
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:41 AM
1

Duh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:43 PM
1

Okay and social norms still exist as a driving force on the makro scale. It's not mutually exclusive with personal agency. Why aren't you eating dogs for protein? Are they inedible? Or is it just not common in our culture
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:03 PM
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Society and social norms do kind of matter I don't know what to tell you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:40 PM
2

Societal norms that are larger than both me and you dummy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:27 PM
1

Asking some woman you are neither related to nor in a relationship with (not that it really makes a difference) to iron your shirt and expecting her to comply because you're a man and she's a woman and women serve men like that, no biggie Said like a man
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 11:19 AM
2

Exactly. Why'd he feel comfortable asking ME to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:17 AM
2

Maybe start questioning why he felt comfortable asking for that. Doesn't seem strange to you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:12 AM
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Oh that does sound great in theory. Or maybe I'm a good friend and I felt bad seeing her all overstimulated and overworked? Get off my back
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:22 AM
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I thought that talking about "work" and "house chores" made it clear that I was speaking about salaried work. I never say that women were doing nothing, I have much respect for what my grandmothers did back in the day and none of them had a salaried work Mine did salaried work. But I'm referencing field work, that women didn't formally receive money from - their husbands as owners of farmland did Where did I say it was even? Was I said was that there is no social expectation about it anymore. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:18 AM
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50/50 or no relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:09 AM
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He wanted it ironed AND didn't want to have to iron it dumb dumb I did it for my overworked, overstimulated friend, not for some bum ass man
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 09:09 AM
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Our grandmother were probably the last generation were men were working while women were doing the house chores so this expectations kind of make sens back there I don't know what you're talking about. My grandma worked, as did her mother, as did most women in history. Even if that labour was often priced at 0$ But you are seriously comparing those generations with our? Come on... I don't see any place in modern culture where those expectations are still in place. Do you really think that a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:30 AM
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You get it then. But many don't
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:43 AM
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They hate hearing it. Men struggle getting a casual fuck, which is the pinnacle of hardship, blah, whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:28 AM
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YOU are so out of touch it's unreal actually. Thinking at the very LEAST the older generation isn't actively pushing those gender norms onto young women. And that for whatever reason young men aren't into it at all, because they wouldn't enjoy being cooked and cleaned for like their fathers Get outta here
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:27 AM
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Yes let's only focus on the old people and ignore everything else you showed me, you're so smart
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:24 AM
0

True and fair
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:22 AM
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Women always worked though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 05:22 AM
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And I'm still not understanding what that has to with making your girl do your chores. Too pretty to clean?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:32 AM
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Yes let's do exactly what I'm talking about and pretend those social norms don't exist you're so smart
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:20 AM
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Telling me to grow up but it's men that have to be cooked for and cleaned after like babies
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:09 AM
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Why not just do your chores because you're not a baby, is what I don't get. And how come y'all aren't embarassed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:04 AM
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50/50 or nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 01:02 AM

True. It's also why they're choosing not to have babies. They know they'll be in it, largely, alone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 12:56 AM
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Women always worked, and guess what
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 12:54 AM
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Like... No shit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 12:51 AM
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I agree that it's best to be in a relationship with someone supportive and appreciative. Very few men are willing to be that. Social conditioning
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 10:03 PM
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I don't disagree with what you're saying
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 09:28 PM
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I disagree, and don't really know how you're forming these opinions Tell me then, what do you think happens when the man has the upper hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 09:05 PM
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Same as she does but less🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:57 PM
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I'm not from a third world country. Would help you out, huh? These gender roles are common in first-world countries. But sure, go on living in your fantasy world Now for real, bye
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:56 PM
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Of course. But women are conditioned to be more giving than men and also have more to lose. Like tearing their lady bits up to give some loser that doesn't like her a child
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:54 PM
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Provides for her needs? How so? A large majority of women work and do the majority of household labour and childcare, you are aware of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:51 PM
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Good for you, but know that's rare
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:46 PM
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That's only true on the internet In real life, ugly losers have wives and girlfriends (sometimes at the same time)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:45 PM
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They do when that single generation is bombarded with infinite information through internet and media, exposed to new social platforms, new concepts and ideas, new crowds full to the brim with desperate men with no standards at all and means to exploit that male desperation in various ways. Nice try! They sure don't Are you seriously implying that women and men within the dating age range today are still conditioned to traditional gender roles, and that women are willing to stay at homes, cook c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:43 PM
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They do. A whole bunch of them just decide to use it like so
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:34 PM
-1

The dynamic definitely works both ways, for sure. That being said, I don’t agree that it happens with the same frequency for men and women, because women are raised to be nurturing at their own expense. Women in my mom’s generation worked full-time and cooked, cleaned, and managed almost all of the household labor. Add in childbearing and childcare. And no, it didn’t matter whether their husbands were the chads of their dreams - those were simply the expected gender roles And yes, times are chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 08:27 PM
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And men still started it, since you felt like pointing fingers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 11:03 AM
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Right. Because historically men were famously generous and earnest in their intentions. And women had all the agency and means to play men like the fiddleee Intellectuall dishonesty, never seen before from men on ppd
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 10:18 AM
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They are evil that's what it is If only they at least treated those women well. But it's like they're mad at her for not being attractive in their eyes Why? It's not her fault you can't get the 18yo insta baddie of your dreams
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:22 AM

You can't treat a woman like shit if there's no woman
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 06:12 AM

They hate hearing it, that's how you know it's true
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 11:02 PM

Dread gaming, weaponized incompetence, negging, stonewalling... A lot of the times you can tell before they even do anything. It's the lingo, too specific
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 11:00 PM

Libido slayerrr btw
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 10:45 PM

Your obvious little manosphere tricks will make the woman that genuinely likes/loves you hate you. Hate your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 10:37 PM
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Witholding pussy and free household labour abolitionists stand UP😤 Manraising is here
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 02:49 PM
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They can be such enablers :(( yall hate your useless husbands why raise your sons to be like them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 10:35 AM
3

I love the mom analogy because actually imagine you're dating a child and he always tries to trick you into not cleaning his room
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 05:52 AM
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Apparently its “normal behavior” to deliberately ignore all the complaints about you from your (supposed) loved one just because you think you’ll get away with it, like a spoiled CHILD with permissive parents. Again, selfish behavior being labeled “men being men” There is so much I could write about this. Why are men like this? Who's teaching yall? That's no love - I could never conjure up a plan to ignore my partner's needs until they exhaust themselves and stop asking. Let alone carry it out I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 12:09 AM
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For sure. It was a little joke👉🏼👈🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:22 AM
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And me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:16 AM
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PPD men: Don't say that men are terrible and women are wonderful! PPD men, everyday: Men are terrible and women are wonderful (paraphrased)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 01:09 AM
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The other problem I see is guys saying “Well, they didnt think it was bad enough. You should have communicates. You suould have had a serious talk about it” For real, they act like they need to be told everything. But, a lot of the time, they know. They know and want to make you feel bad about nagging them for every single thing so that you stop asking. A subset of weaponized incompetence
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:08 PM
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Manchildren are mad unattractive cry about it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 09:35 PM
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Scores higher than a snotty bratty manbaby you have to make cookies and milk for Being made a houseslave seems pretty insulting all of a sudden huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 09:22 PM

Are you really saying you aren't seeing a whole bunch of men affiliated with red pill pushing for bare minimum and crying about dinner dates? We have very, very different experiences then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 08:17 PM

Well, I am seeing a lot of red pill men loving it. Little dating tactics to put in less and less effort. Gauge how low one can go, test the woman, the works
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 08:01 PM

Obviously I mean the bare minimum thing. Isn't that like, a red pill commandment?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:57 PM

You're red pill. Why sad - aren't you supposed to be into this sort of thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:55 PM
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Sure - but you will receive the bare minimum in return I’m with a bare-minimum guy. I’m deeply attracted to him, there are real feelings there, and I’d give him the world. But that attitude made me resent him. I don’t cook for him (yes, he’s asked). I don’t go beyond what I genuinely want - sexually or otherwise I buy my own flowers. He can blow his own dick - and birth his own kid, since that’s apparently something he fully expects me to do too Men forget women are aware it goes both ways. For …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:22 AM
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If you understand the words, you can decipher the sentence. It’s not complicated. No you see the words need to make sense together, not just individually! You're welcome
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 05:30 PM
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I didn't say the words were complicated. I said you were sounding pompous and not making much sense when men give them a counter offer, find a work around, or cheapen/commodify what’s on the table (a human body) You're sounding evil too for that matter
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 05:13 PM
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because some women prioritize their own financial wellbeing over some women feeling secure in their femininity. what are you talking about but like actually? men here are allergic to sounding not pompous and making sense for once
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 04:45 PM
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Nice try! Surrogacy is unethical And men don't treat relationships as transactions🤫 but voluntary service
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 04:16 PM

One would expect you to actually say something of substance One would expect bisexuals🤓to better understand sexual dimorphism🤓, but here we are.🤓 Men expect everything and want to give nothing. Address that smartass
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 03:02 PM
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I am actually bisexual. But the post ain't about that is it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 01:54 PM
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I'd love to buy flowers and dinner a few times and have someone do the majority of chores and birth and raise my kids. Alas, even that is above men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 01:41 PM
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Well, I've experienced contemporary misogyny, the successor of those thousands of years we're talking about. And I don't mean men being mean to me on the internet. I had to watch women in my family experience misogyny, both domestically and on the job market. My grandpa doesn't know how to turn the oven on, but he knew to use my grandmother's labour to have a fresh dinner on the table, everyday. They both worked. Reproductive rights are being taken away systematically. It means very little to yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:12 PM
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It's an assumption, and mine is as good as yours
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:11 PM
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You've never experienced nor will ever experience a golddigger. Not enough gold to dig for the high-maintenance hotties
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 08:28 AM
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Well, I assumed. Since you assumed shit about me. I thought it's just a silly little game we're playing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:38 PM
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I'm in a silly mood so I'll entertain you a little You'll pay for a date with a woman you find attractive enough. Isn't it insulting that its all based on your attraction level?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:25 PM
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I did say you won't want to hear it. You think expecting a man to pay for a date or being mean online is extreme hatred. What would you call what women have gone through historically?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 06:49 PM
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You won't want to hear it but it's reactionary to thousands of years of misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 03:49 PM
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Depends on how old are the kids. Over 14? Sure, what the hell But I'm not changing the nappies
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:57 PM
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Compared to the good guy who has absolutely nothing going for him yes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:24 AM
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thinking you're so sleek making the fuckboy and the daddy sound like plausible options and the good guy like a snooze fest
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:07 AM
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You're still not understanding. Women have lower libidos and orgasms are not guaranteed anyway. Men refuse to accept that but we just don't value or need it the way you seem to And no, doesn't apply to every single woman on the planet. It's just a general tendency. Before the nymphos start jumping me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 10:31 AM

We all do it, women just hide it better But isn't that it? The straight up disrespect
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 04:39 AM

I am in fact average and it still happens
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 04:34 AM

Every young-ish woman knows this - when you walk past a family and the man is a step behind his wife and kids, 8 out of 10 times he'll ogle you. A full double take, often break his neck as you walk past him. Embarassing There's this impending sense of doom because high chances are you're going to be that wife, and soon They'll never give you a good answer! Except for a discouraging "well she gave me her prime so i'll suck it up and stay loyal even tho god knows i'll want inside an 18yo girl's pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:02 AM

I am quite literally talking about situations where men can "read" their woman's mind perfectly well. Just pretend to be a clueless little baby. Not uncommon btw!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:20 PM
1

There you go
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:18 PM
-1

Why is it rape? Why should I care (if it is)? You think what you think but the least you could do is admit you're evil
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 07:10 PM

And sometimes people's unwillingness to pick up on non-verbal cues more than borders on weaponized incompetence
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:10 PM

Men are terrible and women are wonderful /srs. You sickos
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 10:12 AM
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Aside from the obvious (pdf, stds etc etc) being the placeholder. That he fully intends to use me to build himself up for a woman he actually wants
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:26 AM
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This. Every time I insist he's not an idiot child and knows full well what I'm hinting at, he eventually gives in. They know and hope you won't be direct enough to say it at the risk of seeming naggy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:13 AM
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From a young age, i’ve imagined a happy future with a family and a partner who i could love with all my heart How? How were you planning to carry out all that love? For most women love means waiting on their man hand and foot, suffering physically and financially to give him children, gritting their teeth when he inevitably starts eyeing women half his age at fourty Women should and have to finally be selfish
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:39 PM
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Let's subsidize men staying away from women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 12:19 PM

Stacy becky chad treatment alpha fucks sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 10:58 AM

Among some insane ass takes
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 08:22 AM

Nooooo don't talk like a normal person. We're on ppd don't you know
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 08:15 AM
1

Yesss girl slay💅🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 05:07 AM
2

Yes yes women coined the term and all yawn🥱
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 05:06 AM
1

Unfortunately, we did not make this up. Yeah, we're not above a uno reverse? And?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 10:04 PM
2

Me too! But with male loneliness epidemic and falling birthrates
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 09:48 PM
3

Why do you hate 50/50 Golddigger🫵
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 09:43 PM
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Women who provide financial resources equally to the man while additionally providing children and domestic labour at any rate higher than strict 50/50 are getting ripped off
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 09:34 PM

I really don't get what you're talking about. I'm talking about normal long term dating, not some flings obviously. There's no loopholes or semantics
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 01:52 PM

Sometimes a man'll commit in the way you're talking about and still be a bum. True story Second, I don't think many people have that approach when it comes to dating. A man won't usually know the woman he's dating is for sure going to be his wife and vice versa It's like a "commitment towards the possibility of ultimate commitment." AKA long term dating with intent to maybe marry if things go well
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 01:35 PM

No, in this scenario they commit. They just don't treat her that good Which I find is a more common problem for women (though a lot more do have trouble dating at all than men would think)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:35 PM

Why enter and stay in a relationship with a woman you're not into?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:28 PM

Getting a man to date you is easy. Now, getting him to date you and treat you well-
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:06 PM
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Of course you can. I lust after him even more now than when we first got together Then again I don't hook up, I just don't have it in me. Not even with him - but the attraction was definitely there from the start
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:20 AM
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I know I know pregnancy magical bond with fetus facebook mommy groups idk Postpartum depression ripped up hoohah and lost career opportunities like whaaaat. Who even cares Certainly not u/SexCrispies
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:57 PM
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Pregnancy is still taxing on time effort and finances and atp I hope no woman spends theirs on you. You don't appreciate it one bit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:33 AM
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Why so mean? Can't get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:13 AM
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Well I'm with a 50/50 man that would be fully content watching me suffer physically and lose the momentum of my career (thus real money) to have his baby. Free of charge! Of course I'm opting out. It's still wild to me that he actually thinks I'd have his children
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 04:49 AM
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Obviously I do. Trying to be glass half full about it though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 09:42 PM
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If men being unable to get laid can cause society to fall, then society should fall. I will point and laugh watching it fall
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 09:06 PM
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That is why men contribute more financially on average. In the classic dynamic, the men already DO pick up more of the rest, while women do the thing only they can do biologically What are you not understanding? I'm not talking about relationships where the man contibutes more financially I'm talking about FIFTY-FIFTY relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 09:04 AM
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And you get something out of it already. It's a free choice and if you do it, then the pros already outweigh the cons for you. Why do you need money to make up for having a child? The man gets something out of it too, almost entirely for free. Why would I want compensation? For the principle of 50/50. It's simply not fair. It's not 50/50, far from it I think you misunderstand what I meant about the furniture and all. Sure, let's keep score of who owes what. It's just that for a vast (vast) major…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 08:56 AM
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Whataboutism. How many times would that man happen to move furniture? Does it have a lasting impact on his career and earnings? His body? Forever? You're comparing giving birth with all its consequences to handling PMS moods or moving (not to mention I've never seen a situation where the woman wasn't a very active participant in the process and most men can't actually fix a car) Women lose MONEY by being mothers, big MONEY stretched through their lives. And health and their bodies and dating mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 07:34 AM
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Out of all people here at least you're honest. Never seen purplepilldebate so united against transactional relationships before (men don't come out on top for once)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 08:33 PM
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I know. If it was the goal, men who otherwise push for 50/50 wouldn't argue against the idea So, what's the goal then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 07:46 PM
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That's right. They are. Cold blooded too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 01:43 PM
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Not compensating women for uneven labour distribution and career setbacks arising from pregnancy and child rearing? Happens all the time It's just always been traditionally expected
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 01:21 PM
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No man who wants to be a dad is out to take advantage of the mother of his unborn children. Girl be for real
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 01:02 PM
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I mean, I agree. The purpose of this post wasn't to convince anyone 50/50 is best but to encourage a conversation about protecting women's interests in 50/50 relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 11:02 AM
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Well, usually it's a man pushing for 50/50. In this case he should hold up his end of the bargain That being said, I fully agree. It's not optimal. In case of an arrangement like this though, women also need to protect their interests
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 10:30 AM
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Some men WANT to be fathers believe it or not. At the woman's expense of course
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 09:07 AM
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🫵golddigger
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:22 AM
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And yet it's women that end up with the short end of the stick. Obviously you're not going to mind, just admit you don't want or like 50/50
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 10:06 PM
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Men are expecting women to sacrifice their bodies & careers to birth their children. Greedy golddiggers
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:56 PM
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Better than the bare minimum men tend to offer
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:51 PM
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Emotional support should be a part of a relationship regardless, and removing it lowers your contribution once again below 50% "Oh so we're splitting dinner? Great, I don't have to be nice to you then"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:48 PM
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Honestly, good for us
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:34 PM
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Local man reacting to actual 50/50
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:34 PM
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Yes, and that's exactly how my post doesn't apply to your situation and never has
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:37 PM
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I agree, but given the current climate a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:28 PM
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Sure thing Jan
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:23 PM
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Literally
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:23 PM
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Ah, I seeee
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:15 PM
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Sure hope you never have to
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:14 PM
2

Titanic was one of the few exceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:11 PM
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Girl what contribution
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:09 PM
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How would she pay for being an ATM in a 50/50 relationships young lady
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:58 PM
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I specifically said 50/50 relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:50 PM
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👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Edit: I really don't have much to add. I'll just reiterate what I said in the post If equality is the goal, pregnancy can’t be treated as a “free” contribution by default just because it's traditionally expected It's taken for granted, expected, expected to be done without expecting anything back, the default option. Well I don't think so!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:10 PM
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Please don't lecture me about 50/50 relationships I am in one... <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:01 PM
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Has she ever needed/used a bodyguard before you? Are you going to actually act like a bodyguard and monitor the environment, maintain a strategic position, secure locations before arrival etc etc? Or just stand there next to your woman that's very likely not a public person and think that counts? Smh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:56 PM
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Should be would be could be
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:53 PM
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Yes, and men who want to go strictly 50/50 and also want a child with the person they're going strictly 50/50 with should be very willing to hold up their end of the bargain - why are we pretending it's just women involved in this "theoretical" scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:36 PM
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Very true, and my main point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:31 PM
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most men aren't really holding up their end of the bargain around pregnancy/childbearing and don't really understand what the woman is giving up. bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:27 PM
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It's not the same - it's reactionary. If I'm not looking out for myself, who is? The scrooge looking to give me a ripped up hoohaa and a gap in CV?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:25 PM
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It's not about a woman but the child
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:21 PM
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Those women are being scammed and used🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:15 PM
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Yeah, joint bank accounts usually don't go hand in hand with 50/50. That's nice though, I'm happy for you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:13 PM
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Termination of the pregnancy, that goes against the bodily autonomy, and I can't agree with this argument Adoption though. Can't say I'm familiar with adoption laws. It should require the consent of both parents imo, and if not, they can leave and pay child support to the party that didn't consent
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:03 PM
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It's definitely illegal where I'm from but it also definitely happens where I'm from. It's very, very common. Unfortunately, and those laws are easy to evade. They can just say they liked the other candidate better
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:51 PM
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Won't be continuing the debate with you. Ejaculation cannot be compared to being pregnant for nine months, pushing the thing out, stitches etc etc. Obviously. Best day to you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:49 PM
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At conception and not a second longer
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:44 PM
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I think pregnancy is too big of a thing in every way to count as a small one-off favour that's expected and common in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:44 PM
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Is a man that has a very strict 50/50 mindset financially but also wants to have a child with me, knowing what it would cost me, a good partner in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:41 PM
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That's just 50/50 for you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:39 PM
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You're right in general. I'm talking about 50/50 relationships. And, as much as I do truly believe that women deserve compensation for how burdensome pregnancy & giving birth is, it is a bit of a thought exercise regarding transactional relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:38 PM
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Because the workload & material are not comparable at all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:35 PM
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It's not equal at all though & the parental leave actually adds to the parenthood penalty as employers are hesitant to hire women in ther fertile years Imo, paid leave for both mom and dad would help. How economically feasible it is, I don't know. Sounds nice though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:33 PM
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Well yes. However, that has to do with bodily autonomy. Neither men nor women should be able to evade responsibility for a born child
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:32 PM
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You don't "help around the house" or "help out with the kids" if it's your house and your kids, much as you don't "help out at work" when you're doing your job It implies you see your contribution as an optional act of goodwill, and your woman's the obvious default
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:42 PM
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I do think the men should help around the house nowadays, and I have no problem with that Your wording here says a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 09:50 PM
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🫵golddigger
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:18 PM
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It's possible. Let the man pay the equivalent of half a pregnancy. That is, half the market price of hiring a surrogate. There you go Edit: Downvoters, why do you hate 50/50
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:57 PM
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Yes, you're exactly right - men love 50/50 but only as far as immediate finances go, and they refuse to acknowledge the mental and physical burden that falls onto women. And yes, FINANCIAL burden too once that parenthood penalty hits It's one hell of a 50/50, and no man would take that deal and not absolutely fume about it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:53 PM
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If by high value you mean very physically attractive, then sure. The n count and respect don't matter one bit. In fact, the less effort they have to make for the very respectable average Jane they could imagine in the role of the bangmaid baby machine, the better
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:45 AM
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Many men do in fact complain
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 10:19 AM
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The crickets🥱 come on guys let's purple pill debate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:04 PM
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Just get better then ig, idk
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:47 AM
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The way we're still debating women having a physical type or paying for dates when men freely discuss re-enslaving women because they can't hit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 07:03 PM
0

It is unfortunately deeper than that, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 04:06 PM
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I don't know about the statistics but women always treated me better, were more romantic & less stingy. In turn, I also allowed myself to be more romantic and less stingy than I have to be now with a man Maybe it's time to go back
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 03:57 PM
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I'm just average and sorry but no looksmaxing can get me to 10/10. I guess you could call me cute but not hot or beautiful. Just one of those things As for the height, there's also surgery. Hormone therapy when you're still growing I think? I agree it probably sucks though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 06:29 PM
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Somewhat, but not entirely. And still a wider variety than men can speak of
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:10 PM

Hey, don't shoot the messenger. As to the ethnic features, that's far from the general premise Imo, the thing is - do you see men picking unconventionally attractive women to lust over like that? Do you see them attempt to? In this borderline organized fashion?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:05 PM
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