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She's gonna leave in a huff 99.9% of the time if you say that.
/r/seduction02/04/24 08:24 PM
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So difficult that you likely will never ever make it happen.
/r/seduction02/04/24 08:23 PM
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Probably about the same percentage that will text you back. It doesn't super matter. I sayxgwt their number, but sometimes the circumstance just calls for you giving yours. Both can work, whatever happened before the number exchange is what really matters.
/r/seduction02/04/24 05:29 PM
3

They text me first. Sounds ypu need to tighten up your game.
/r/seduction02/04/24 05:17 AM
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I think you're confused lol
/r/seduction02/04/24 05:16 AM
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They've called me lol
/r/seduction02/04/24 05:16 AM
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You're certainly allowed your own preferences! Romance is all about feeling, and if you're not feeling it, that's enough reason to have a preference. I personally like highly educated, logical people. The instances I've had to watch my women completely in their emotions to the point that they're speaking nonsense and are beyond reason has really turned me off from a certain type of person.
/r/seduction01/04/24 09:04 PM
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You didn't use to need game because women were expected to find a man and marry a moderately successful guy and that was that. Game is actually a fairly modern thing related to women's liberation. People used to marry the girl next door by bringing them flowers and saying, "I'm gonna marry you." That's boomer game.
/r/seduction01/04/24 06:14 PM
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Bring the 18 year old girl next door flowers and say, "you want me to bring you moon? I'll bring you the moon!" Then you get married. That's the one point OP is actually right about. The reason we need game is because our "fathers" didn't have to perform to get women, girls just found a man to get out of their parents house and that was that.
/r/seduction01/04/24 06:12 PM
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You'll pick up nore girls on vacation in Europe with US game than you will in the US lol. You'd be surprised how many people are down for a 3 day fling with a foreigner.
/r/seduction01/04/24 06:11 PM
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Women call it "vibes," or "chemistry" back in the day. The logical male brain needs that broken down to a science sometimes! That's what seduction is for, to help our anxious monkey brains understand how to vibe.
/r/seduction27/03/24 11:32 PM
2

I prefer the Dinosaur 🦕
/r/seduction27/03/24 11:27 PM
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Approaching a group of friends seems risky Here's a piece of 101 advice from Mystery himself. "Beautiful women are rarely out alone." Beatiful women RARELY go to a social place by themselves. If you want to talk to that girl at the bar that you can't take your eyes off of, you're gonna bitch out because she has friends?? You have to get good at talking to groups. It's called holding court if you want to research how to get better at it. P.S. You eventually should try to "isolate" them, as in, "I…
/r/seduction27/03/24 11:20 PM
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Please don't give advice here.
/r/seduction26/03/24 08:16 AM
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Have sex one more time before she leaves bruh, c'mon now. Then, act like a man who has shit going on in his life. Forget about it for a few days. If she reaches out, amazing, she's into you. If not, you can invite her to do something fun in time for the weekend. You're honestly gonna push girls away by texting the same/next day. They're gonna get needy vibes, and you don't want that.
/r/seduction19/03/24 06:49 AM
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Don't text people you barely know good morning and goodnight. Save that for relationships. Right off the bat I can tell you move too fast and take first dates wayyy more seriously than you should and it's pushing girls away. A first or second dates doesn't mean you have a girl text all day and night, it means you have a scheduled appointment to go have some fun and meet someone. Treat it like a fun appointment, and treat these girls like you know for a fact that they are temporary in your life. …
/r/seduction19/03/24 12:18 AM
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Well your brain has 2-3 more years of maturing, so you still have an excuse lol
/r/seduction17/03/24 11:22 PM
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What part of having my 30 year old d*ck inside of a beautiful women is not supoosed to be fun? Kid, I didn't even get good at sex until I was like 24. The amount of college girls that wanted me didn't pop off until I was 23-25 in grad school. 21 is baby status. You literally have the brain of a 19 year old woman, while girls your age have the brain of a 23 year old man. You'll be done neurologically maturing around 26. You're an adolescent.There's nothing old about you, and your prime is still y…
/r/seduction17/03/24 11:21 PM
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I'm moving states and I'm gonna crash at mom's place with my little bro until after the holidays. I'm gonna pretty much forget about girls and just save a bunch of money and get jacked at the gym. I think I can accomplish enough from now to the new year to be able to get my own place. Even before then though, I'll probably end up hooking up with someone during this time. I've found that having a good reason for your state at the moment and having the potential for much more is enough to be taken…
/r/seduction16/03/24 10:13 PM
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Mystery isn't a happy guy. He's old, alone, with kids he never sees, psychological issues, and he moans about it on Twitter. If you learn to get women by regurgitating lines and wearing fuzzy hats, odds are you'll end up like that. The first model I ever banged was from using Mystery Method, and it didn't take long for her to realize that I wasn't who I was pretending to be. I had my heart broken, and I dont want others to have to learn the hard way. Neil Strauss talks about this very concept in…
/r/seduction25/02/24 08:53 PM
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Find another bro. Oddly enough, that sometimes makes the first one want you more lol
/r/seduction24/02/24 10:24 PM
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I mean it was quite literally written during a different generation. The general structure is great, but at the end of the day, if you're just trying to use canned lines and material that was used 30 years ago, you're gonna have a bad time. It's foundational learning that you should supplement with more modern takes. Everyone should read it, and then build upon it. Don't treat it like gospel though.
/r/seduction24/02/24 09:48 PM
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Mystery Method is still a good representation of outer game, it illustrates what an approach looks like from A-Z. I'd read that along with The Game for context and some life lessons. Be sure not to take it all to heart, it's outdated. Then read Models and try and blend the two into something that works for you. Once you read all that, you'll have a lot better, more focused questions to ask here and you'll be able to identify your sticking points a lot easier.
/r/seduction24/02/24 06:35 AM
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it seems like a lot of social interactions involve the gram They don't. Social interactions happen in person. if a girl is trying to give you her Insta instead of her number, she's rejecting you. If by social interactions you mean casual conversations between friends, then sure. But nobody gets laid because of their Insta unless they're rich and/or famous and their Insta portrays this.
/r/seduction01/02/24 10:02 PM
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Well it's not the truth since that's not how this all works lol, but you're right, you're entitled to make stuff up online just like everyone else.
/r/MensRights05/01/24 11:25 PM
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Lol nah, I know this attitude. It's attitude of someone who can't rectify what you remember with the reality I just laid out. If you could, you'd have done so in one sentence. I'm sorry, I know you have important experiences you want to share, but when what you have to share doesn't allign with how reality works, nobody is going to take it very seriously.
/r/MensRights05/01/24 10:44 PM
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I mean I explained how it works and you can't pick one, so your memory might be just as fuzzy as mine lol. People who grumble a lot tend to not know exactly what's going on around them in situations like this.
/r/MensRights05/01/24 10:32 PM
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If they dropped the charges due to lack of evidence, then you did not go through a trial, if you did go through a trial then the charges weren't dropped, you were found not guilty. If you had to take some course or whatever, then you probably took some kind of plea aggreement, which you do to avoid a trial. You can't have the charges dropped but also be forced to do something, unless you took a plea. So which is it? You're mixing up a lot of stuff here.
/r/MensRights05/01/24 10:25 PM
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You don't need a lawyer on retainer dude. Don't go blow all your money on a fancy lawyer before you've been charged with anything. Most likely nothing is going to happen. So far you've been kicked out of a bar. You don't need a fancy lawyer because some local piece of shit business owner said some bs to you.
/r/MensRights05/01/24 10:12 PM
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Is this before security cams or what?
/r/MensRights05/01/24 10:11 PM
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In almost all cases in modern times, the person with the highest income ends up losing money.
/r/MensRights05/01/24 10:08 PM
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I mean attorneys get kickbacks for generating child support No they don't
/r/MensRights05/01/24 10:08 PM
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It's nonsense dude. There's no legal mechanism for this in Texas, or even the US.
/r/MensRights05/01/24 10:07 PM
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Then you should have went to court?
/r/MensRights05/01/24 10:06 PM
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Is there an article or something? Im in Texas and haven't heard anything like this
/r/MensRights05/01/24 10:05 PM
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India? The gang rape capital of the world? I think you're confused about that one. The status of men and women there do not align with this idea you're sharing.
/r/MensRights05/01/24 10:01 PM
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That's in no way related to this topic lol
/r/MensRights05/01/24 09:55 PM
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Well that's the advice that is ever given here so what's the problem exactly?
/r/seduction02/09/23 05:56 PM
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I hate this take. It's not bullshit. Not everyone can act the same way as everyone else. Not everyone can have the same personality. Not everyone is gifted with the nature and nurture that is conducive to a good dating life. Old school pickup was very performance based, but things have changed a lot since then. Seduction is about learning and practicing the habits and attitudes that naturals can exhibit without any help. Just because someone is shy, a nerd, an introvert, etc. doesn't mean they d…
/r/seduction02/09/23 02:42 AM
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That is not seduction, and honestly not even a good idea. It's a girl you barely know. Unless you're cool with throwing your wealth around for artificial relationships, pump the brakes. If you are cool with that, then sure, you will find someone who will take you up on this offer. But it is not seduction. It's just having money and gold-diggers.
/r/seduction02/08/23 06:24 PM
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Absolutely do not do this OP. The longer you wait, the less likely it is to happen. She's got ten other guys messaging her trying to go out on this week. Don't let the spark fizzle out. You are asking too soon though. The conversations should be about twice as long before you ask. Build a little rapport. More than 10 message exchanges is pushing it. There's research to back me up. The people who ask get dates, the people who try to sell themselves over text do not. You don't build a relationship…
/r/seduction31/10/22 08:11 AM
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Conv 1. You should have left it at "wedding next week" and waited for a response. The first date thing could have come up in a few more messages, but it was too soon, the double text is needy, and you undermined your own joke. Conv 2. I think the whole thing is bad, don't open like that. Nothing wrong with saying next though. Conv 3. Basically negging. Most girls won't respond well to that, but some with validation issues might. That's usually not the goal. You've got the right idea. Open, bante…
/r/seduction31/10/22 08:07 AM
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Everyone has had this experience bro. Where you stand is it's over, move on. Ghosting means, "not interested anymore," so you move on. That's all.
/r/seduction21/10/22 08:34 PM
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I mean, stop assuming that? Right? Nobody is giving you attention to troll you dude. You know that too, so you'd may as well stop framing it this way. When a cute girl starts talking to you, you DO NOT literally think she's messing with you. Even if you think it for a second, the next second you know you're not being logical. What you're doing is creating an artificial barrier that you can use to excuse your social anxiety. You're sabotaging yourself because you're scared, not because you think …
/r/seduction05/10/22 05:00 PM
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Why is she around so much? Is she just a part of your friend group? I'd honestly just not talk to women with her around. You really do not have to be around her to talk to women.
/r/seduction17/08/22 05:25 PM
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What does she do specifically?
/r/seduction17/08/22 05:10 PM
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Met a wingman at the mall when I spotted him from the second floor doing cold approaches on the first floor. I think that if you're doing it right you shouldn't really be noticed, and if you're doing it wrong, security is gonna ask you to leave. I have seen people with fuzzy hats trying to get girls on the dance floor. I figured they just read The Game and decided to stop studying and start trying stuff lol
/r/seduction13/07/22 08:10 PM
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I don't think it's super entertaining or helpful, but it is an interesting look into the sort of golden age of pick up.
/r/seduction13/07/22 04:17 PM
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And the plays, and the peacocking, being a wingman, all of it. Both HIMYM and The Game came out in September 2005. The pick up artist industry was a hot topic at the time. Mystery got his VH1 show in 2007.
/r/seduction13/07/22 03:52 PM
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Yes. Barney Stinson is just a fictional version of Mystery.
/r/seduction12/07/22 09:24 PM
2

Statistically white men get more matches. Same for white women. Obviously the app doesn't have preferences for people, it just plays out that way.
/r/seduction01/07/22 12:41 AM
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NO. If a girl tells you not to contact her then you'd better stop right now, or else. You've been warned.
/r/seduction30/06/22 03:54 PM
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Nah I've met some very hot women who were pretty bad at conversation. They kind of just expected it would be all about them, hardly acknowledged whatever I was saying really. They were definitely into me, because I was definitely into them laterifyouknowwhatImean ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Science even says women aren't as funny as men. It makes sense from an evolution and even a modern romance perspective. It's like male birds being the most colorful, having to dance, or needing to draw shit in the dirt to at…
/r/seduction29/06/22 10:14 PM
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Yes, that's why subs like this exist. But if your goal is to change the world so that women and men are equal in terms of who is the sexual selector, you've got a few million years worth of evolution to contend with. You can't change women. May as well just get good and then share some wisdom. Empower men, focus on what we can do to help ourselves.
/r/seduction29/06/22 10:09 PM
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It means, "please for the love of all that is good stop making people clarify that they are not talking about all situations or people when they speak in generalities."
/r/seduction29/06/22 10:07 PM
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He sure did, my bad!
/r/seduction29/06/22 06:14 PM
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Don't pursue girls who are refusing you intimacy. We can't decode what any given girl is thinking or intends in every situation. More likely than not, she enjoys your company and admiration, and subconsciously gives you just enough to think you have a chance so you'll stick around. You do not have a chance. When people talk about the "friendzone" they're talking about your situation right now. There's no escaping the friendzone. If you like her as a friend, then be her friend. That's a great way…
/r/seduction29/06/22 05:21 PM
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That's not what frame is. Frame is your actions, attitudes, and beliefs around the current situation. When you're standing up straight, smiling, joking, someone says something kind of shitty to you, then you joke about it and laugh it off, you've maintained frame. Getting sulky or mad is a frame change, and while not an incorrect or inappropriate response sometimes, it could kill the mood and make it harder for you to get laid that day. You might be thinking of social proof and value. I can't sa…
/r/seduction29/06/22 05:05 PM
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They're shitty people, don't feel bad over the words of shitty people. Don't just ask everyone for their number. If the interaction is awkward and there's obviously nothing there, just excuse yourself and walk away. You still got to practice interacting with people, you're not losing anything by dipping out of a bad conversation. The ability to take a hint is a major factor between being a spontaneous guy who chats with strangers and someone who gets labeled a creep.
/r/seduction29/06/22 04:08 PM
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Lol no that's not negging, but I see what you're going for. Looking like the sixties probably isn't going to knock anyone off a pedestal. At worst it's a neutral thing to say, at best that's exactly what she was going for. It's not even a tease. It's just a statement, maybe a compliment. For it to be negging, the backhanded part has to be something that would objectively likely trigger insecurities in someone. "I think your giant ears are sooo cute." You're specifically targeting something that …
/r/seduction29/06/22 12:56 AM
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She still needs to be called on it. She make that recommendation in a much more tactful way. Learning that the way you're speaking to your boyfriend is hurtful can be useful too.
/r/seduction29/06/22 12:29 AM
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Those 2 things are synonymous. Pedestal is a metaphor for the level of her confidence, and self image. Sometimes people do have unfortunately big egos, but there's no reason to neg them. Just avoid them. As for negging, the actual real deal from Mystery himself theory is that both of the people in the interaction have some value. While most seduction is geared towards raising your own value, negging is for the exact purpose of lowering hers to your level. We call the better alternative teasing n…
/r/seduction28/06/22 11:59 PM
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Everyone peacocks, it's called, "dressing up." You don't have to look like a clown in order to stand out. Dress in well fitting clothes of your favorite popular style and add a little unusual accessory if you really want. That's peacocking. Peacocking is and interesting and iseful concept, but don't confuse it with some primal DNA trick or hack. We are not peacocks. We're not hardwired to think the goofy dressed dude across the bar is attractive. We're hardwired to think he's a bit of a weirdo. …
/r/seduction28/06/22 11:26 PM
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Mostly just shit talk behind your back honestly.
/r/seduction28/06/22 01:28 AM
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It all depends what you're goals are. Consider that winning might just mean getting laid that night. If winning in your particular case is to find someone you really enjoy being around in the medium to long term, then sure, you've just encountered a red flag.
/r/seduction26/06/22 09:23 PM
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NEXT if you're looking for something serious. Just act unfazed, maybe make some light jokes, if you just want to maintain frame and hookup with her.
/r/seduction26/06/22 09:17 PM
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Most men do not fuck as much as they would like, and most men are not sleeping with the above average looking women. That's the point of having game. It's easy to settle for what comes your way, that much is true.
/r/seduction19/06/22 08:51 PM
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Texting doesn't carry the same impact as face to face contact. Your texts lose some of your humor, your body language, your mannerisms, etc. Because of that, it's a lot harder to have a meaningful conversation through text than it is in person. This lack of impact behind the texts can be perceived as shallow, dry conversation, and that leads to the spark dying down. Constantly needing to be in contact can also be construed as neediness. If you're just straight up good at texting, or she's super …
/r/seduction19/06/22 08:43 PM
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You don't cold approach through text. If you have her number, that means you met her at some point and got it. That means you're acquainted with her, which means any approach from then on is a warm apparoach. Cold approach means talking to a stranger. If you're getting girls' numbers without asking them then cold texting them, you're gonna get labeled a creep. If you meant how to just open a text in general, the simplest way to handle this is to consider texting for logistics only. You ask a sma…
/r/seduction19/06/22 06:37 PM
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Here's what you mid level guys don't understand yet. Some of us don't want to bang the bored, drunk, weed vultures. We want to bang that girl at the bookstore who smiled at us but we were too much of a little boy to say hi. Yeah it's easy banging 19 year old college chicks who can't handle their alcohol and who think banging a new dude every weekend means they're modern and sex positive lol. It's easy to be the man when you can throw a kick back and bust out the cocaine. But your whole life isn'…
/r/seduction19/06/22 06:32 PM
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Yes it is. Step 1 is inner game. Step 1.5 is approach. Doesn't matter when, where, or in what context; if you don't walk up and say hi, you won't be sleeping with her. Ever.
/r/seduction02/06/22 05:43 PM
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Most people do not though.
/r/seduction02/06/22 05:40 PM
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Just use a real time constraint? Sometimes you do want to chat with a girl for 20 minutes, but your friends are dipping and you gotta go. It's not fake, it's social etiquette. These girls feel more comfortable knowing that you don't plan to follow them around all night. Make that clear upfront, and you've built some instant comfort. It's too good to pass up in my opinion.
/r/seduction02/06/22 05:39 PM
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Learn a bit of game. This is game. No that's not fucking it. if that was fucking it, everyone would be getting laid all the time and there'd be no reason for communities like this. How do you expect people to, "learn some game," when you come in shitting on posts like this? Guys here need help. Just leave, you're not helpful. Find some better way to entertain yourself.
/r/seduction02/06/22 05:35 PM
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0. The 80/20 principle: The failure has nothin to do with you. Some women have boyfriends. Some women just got dumped and want nothing to do with men at this moment. Some women's girlfriend just got dumped and she can't be seen flirting with dudes while she's supposed to be having a girl's night. She doesn't like beards, she only dates hispanic dudes, she's tiny and is intimidated by super tall people. The list goes on. Some 80% of the outcome is explained by factors that have nothing to do with…
/r/seduction02/06/22 05:31 PM
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No dude. You keep saying game but it's a metaphor. People are animals. We have a courtship process that is a natural part of human nature and psychology. It's called being socially adept. You're not telling lies or doing tricks or some shit, you're just following social norms. A lot of people who come to this sub don't get women because they are socially inept. That's why we say inner game comes first. You have to develop social skills, and this post is practical advice for people to learn. Not …
/r/seduction29/05/22 04:54 AM
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Don't listen to these people dude. This sub isn't what it used to be. These aren't people that get laid, these are people that like to go on Reddit and be a contrarian rather than be helpful. They don't understand that there's years of theory and practice behind these things.
/r/seduction28/05/22 03:57 PM
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Then just check once an hour before just like OP said.
/r/seduction28/05/22 03:55 PM
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Here's someone who shouldn't be posting advice. Women will sometimes flake. You're not checking to see if they remember, you're checking to see if they're still down so you don't get there and get stood up. Better to know an hour ahead of time and decide what your plans are.
/r/seduction28/05/22 03:55 PM
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This sub is going to shit. Guess what? Early stage dating is a game. That's why it's called The Game and having game. "Why not just walk up and ask if she wants some fuck??" Because that's not how human courtship in 2022 works. OP, good post. This is exactly what I do. It's not a trick, it's hardly a game, it's just an easy and non-needy way to double check. Girl's can be turned off if you're explicitly asking if it's still on. It could be giving them an out and their nerves could get the best o…
/r/seduction28/05/22 03:53 PM
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For you new guys here, the old PUA rule of thumb was that if you notice 3 IOIs (Indicators of Interest), you're ready to move on from Attraction to Comfort, and you're ready to kino escalate some more. So less cocky/funny because you've already got her attention, and more rapport building because she'll be more likely to have sex with someone she feels she's knows a little bit. This is your list of IOIs. No, any single one of these does not mean much. But if you notice a few of them, that's your…
/r/seduction26/05/22 11:25 PM
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Yes, that is indeed what I said they said because it is indeed what they said. Hopefully I don't have to repeat it again lol
/r/seduction26/05/22 08:51 PM
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Okay, that's great..? All I ever did here was advocate being the guy you're claiming to be. Literally my advice was to become like you. So what's your problem exactly?
/r/seduction26/05/22 08:44 PM
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The worst one is when they want you to insist on something sexual, I know it's all fun and games but it just makes me feel rapey. Op mentioned a few things worth mentioning. If you have advice give it to OP, not some other commenter adding their own input.
/r/seduction26/05/22 05:26 PM
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That's just attention seeking behavior, and you're correct, you're liable to catch a charge if you make it a habit of being too persistent. As far as sex goes, you kino escalate slowly and gradually. When/if she says no or just isn't down to be physical, take two steps back in the process and try again a little later. That could be the next date, could be a little later in the night. Any second attempts on the same night should be the last attempt for the night. Just a rule of thumb that's tried…
/r/seduction26/05/22 05:24 PM
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Yes that's how it works. Being genuine and vulnerable is what you're supposed to do. You're entirely too needy to succeed though. You think love will make you happy but you have cause and effect reversed. Why would anyone want to date a sad boy? Women have their own problems, they don't have the time or patience to solve yours. You need to learn to be happy for yourself. Then women will flock to you. Read Models by Mark Manson.
/r/seduction25/05/22 04:43 AM
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See, this is why you should be focused on lifting. You can't even imagine a world where a woman feels up your muscles and I'm out here getting groped every time I go out lol. I'm being very serious. You should listen to the people who know what they're talking about friend. That's what this sub is for. Get big, see how much it helps for yourself. And like I said, if you really want the hottest girls at the gym, you'll have a huge advantage as a regular that everyone knows.
/r/seduction24/05/22 02:48 AM
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Nothing because I'm working out. Y'all think I'm kidding til your girl is feeling my biceps lol. Take this 1-2 hours of time and dedicate it to your own personal development. You need to practice being non-needy anyways, do it here. The best way to get in with the girls in the gym anyways is to become a gym rat that everyone recognizes. Get jacked, then ask some qt3.14 to film your deadlift set and gove you feedback. Boom, now you're talking.
/r/seduction23/05/22 06:05 AM
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That's absolutely not true and you don't seem to be grounded in reality. This is not good advice.
/r/seduction22/05/22 05:09 AM
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8 months isn't even a long time dude
/r/seduction21/05/22 05:27 PM
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Well women are on a dating site to go on dates, and they're at the supermarket to buy eggs lol. It's good oractice to talk to everyone everywhere, but the success rate of daygame is very low for everyone, including the coaches and gurus etc. You might have more success at a bar.
/r/seduction19/05/22 07:55 PM
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Is this in person flirting the first time you met them? Like, you approached a stranger and started flirting? Or is it people you've met naturally in your life, or through your social circle? If it's cold approaching, I'll just say that even for people that are good at it, they get turned down more than they score. You can't make strangers like you. You're just putting yourself out there and seeing if opportunities arise. Don't beat yourself up over it. If you're in a position to play the social…
/r/seduction18/05/22 06:44 PM
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The last time was a month ago when I was shaking my ass at the bar/club and a girl approached saying I looked fun. Then my girlfriend said hi and the girl said sorry and dipped lol. This happens once or twice a month if I go out to a bar or two every weekend. My buddy is 6'5 and shredded, chiseled jaw, and danced from grade school to college so his hips don't lie lol. He gets approached EVERY time we go out. If this doesn't happen to you, you're probably not the guy OP was asking about.
/r/seduction18/05/22 06:37 PM
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Because some women have said that to me in person, just like they've said to their friends as I walk away that they aren't into beards after flirting with a little with my bearded self. "He's cut but I don't really like beards." It's their preference. I thought I was pretty clear about my point but I'll sum it up quickly: Women are individuals with their own preexisting preferences. You can't make them be attracted to you, so don't beat yourself up over rejection.
/r/seduction18/05/22 06:27 PM
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I was speaking from personal experience. If you don't get approached then you aren't who OP was asking.
/r/seduction18/05/22 06:24 PM
1

He probably does what you do better to be perfectly frank. Inner game has much more to it than talking to women. It's a problem if you're reliant on dating to support your inner game. It will come back to bite you eventually.
/r/seduction18/05/22 06:18 PM
1

Very true
/r/seduction18/05/22 06:08 PM
1

The simple answer is just ask her out. If you have signs of interest and have built some rapport, you ask her out. If it's a no then that's that. The complicated answer is it really depends on the context. We can't help if we don't know the situation. What does flirting mean to you? How do you know these girls? Where and when did you meet them? How long have you been flirting for? Through text or in person? See we have no idea where you're actually at here. You could be talking about messaging g…
/r/seduction18/05/22 05:16 PM
2

You say, "hey we should get a drink sometime," and then ask for his number. There's no secret to a young woman getting dates. Ask and you shall receive. Unless he's a devoted husband and father lol, then you won't receive.
/r/seduction18/05/22 03:39 PM
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If you ask people out within 3-5 messages and next them when it's not gonna happen you don't waste anymore than 20 minutes a day. It's not a waste of time unless you're sitting there doing nothing but swiping all day.
/r/seduction18/05/22 03:07 PM
2

Have you spoken with a doctor? Anything from depression to low testosterone to overworked muscles can drain you. Your schedule is light. Most people simply are not that exhausted by your schedule.
/r/seduction17/05/22 03:46 AM
5

NEXT
/r/seduction17/05/22 03:31 AM
2

If she liked you she'd hang out with you. When a women's words and actions are not in agreement, trust her actions.
/r/seduction17/05/22 01:11 AM
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That's great advice for your girlfriend. It's not seduction though. If a woman is venting to you about her problems that's not a very romantic situation and it's not likely to turn into one. We don't do the "talking to" thing here. That rarely works out.
/r/seduction15/05/22 02:15 AM
1

Happens to me 1-2 times a month, assuming I go out every Friday and Saturday night. Woman at cash registers in restaurants will offer free drinks, I didn't this was a thing but it happens 1-2 times a year lol. The most beautiful women likely will not approach you though. They have enough people approaching them. You still gotta work if you want to date the women you find most attractive.
/r/seduction09/05/22 04:14 PM
1

Uh huh so you read the foundations twice, then worked on skills, then succeeded. So inner game, then outer game, now sucess. You're like the kid in class who asks the teacher, "when are we ever gonna have to use this stuff." The dumb kid lol. Nobody ever said all you had to do was read it. I can't imagine how you came to think that after reading the last page your life would change somehow. Obviously you have to go talk to girls after, they aren't gonna call you up saying, "so I heard you finish…
/r/seduction09/05/22 04:03 PM
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Nothing is practical until you solidify youe inner game. You can put on a fuzzy hat and go to the club and act your way into bed with desperate drunk chicks for sure, no need for inner game to accomplish that. But if you're actually trying to get good, Models is the foundation.
/r/seduction08/05/22 08:24 PM
2

Well why are you having trxt conversations? You learned some keywords and thought that's all of seduction huh? Texting is for setting up logistics. Worry about being interesting on the date.
/r/seduction08/05/22 08:22 PM
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Then they got places to be and people to see lol. Yall need to remember, it's not always about you. Some people have preferences that make your beard a deal breaker. Maybe they only date black dudes. Or maybe they just got dumped and don't want to see a dude at all right now. There's only so much you can control in terms of both looks and creating attraction. As for OP's question, and sorry for hijacking a post, I think it would be unusual for people to not know. For one, people WILL tell you yo…
/r/seduction08/05/22 03:32 PM
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Have a ton of fun, make it a competition, light hearted teasing is a must, and if you can change venues afterwards for more drinks or ice cream that adds a lot to the date. Good luck bro!
/r/seduction04/05/22 08:05 PM
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You can do one simple thing, and that's to not be needy. Don't hold her back. Don't rush into something serious. Don't act like her bf after a couple of dates. Don't be jealous or tell her not to do things. She's honestly guaranteed to have to deal with needy whiny boys all of the time. If you can be different than that, and carry yourself like someone who has an abundance of options, you'll stand out. Now I can do all of that, so the question remains, how do you stand out from the dudes that kn…
/r/seduction03/05/22 11:49 PM
1

There's no such thing as closure. Some girl you've never met or met once not only does not owe you closure, but you also do not need it. If you feel the need for closure from some girl you barely know, that's indicative of a bigger problem with yourself. You're missing an abundance mindset if that's the case. The real reason is most women will not be interested. You're gonna have to get used to that.
/r/seduction03/05/22 02:22 PM
2

No, it's not.
/r/seduction30/04/22 11:56 PM
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People like OP frustrate me so much. Even people with Asperger's or extreme social anxiety or depression or whatever understand that context matters. How do people post stuff like this here and expect a serious answer? Are they 13?
/r/seduction28/04/22 05:26 PM
3

Can we seriously ban these people mods?
/r/seduction24/04/22 04:49 PM
3

Why did you quote stepping stone? Nobody said that. OP said it's crucial to do these things before engaging in a serious relationship and that's true. It's better to get good at game and improve yourself before getting into a serious relationship.
/r/seduction24/04/22 04:49 PM
1

Literally everyone else should be. That's the number one advice and literally step one here for amyone who actually reads and listens
/r/seduction24/04/22 04:47 PM
1

That's not how it usually works. I have a feeling you keep going for a certain type because they're essier to talk to.
/r/seduction24/04/22 04:21 PM
2

Well it's a very broad and very basic term to describe some stuff you do with romantic interests, so it's basically impossible to convey interest in a natural way without it. So you might need to get used to not getting laid.
/r/seduction22/04/22 04:12 PM
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No you don't. Pieces of shit don't need to, "stay true to themselves." Weaklings don't need to, "stay true to themselves." Losers don't need to, "stay ture to themselves." That's a platitude you use to justify complacency. You the master of your own fate and the captain of your own destiny. If you don't want to become a better version of you, so be it. But don't try to make it sound noble or honorable. It's not. It's pretty fucking sad.
/r/seduction22/04/22 12:56 PM
1

And you get laid from messaging models on Instagram? And who said anything about physical appearance?
/r/seduction21/04/22 12:48 AM
1

You should post your profile for feedback. I don't know if that's allowed in this sub, but you could do it at r/Tinder.
/r/seduction20/04/22 09:11 PM
1

You need to ask them out sooner. Send one opener, they respond. Respond to their response with some banter, something about their profile pictures that you find interesting. They respond. You address their response, and then you ask them out. Literally less than 10 messages back and forth. If you DM me I'll send you my lines as long as you promise not to share them anywhere, including here.
/r/seduction20/04/22 08:29 PM
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Just a quick fundamentals lesson for the lurkers: This is almost negging. It's outdated and women talk about it all the time in dating and women's subreddits. You're liable to catch a reputation and/or be called out by doing this. The theory is that you decrease her value in relation to yours (in contrast to raising your own value), and this makes her chase validation (assuming you've built up any attraction or social proof). It will actually work on people who are lacking self-confidence inside…
/r/seduction20/04/22 07:33 PM
0

You can get away with a lot of things if you're good looking enough and/or good enough with your outer and inner game. However, you're liable to get the cops called on you if you walk up to girls telling them you like their nose.
/r/seduction20/04/22 07:22 PM
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No. You can be a friendly customer and make small talk depending on how busy they are. You can compliment their shoes, make eye contact, smile, and look for indicators of interest (IOIs). That all needs to take place within just a couple of minutes though. Then you can say bye, and hand her or her coworker a sticky note with your number and ask him to give it to her because you think she's cute. You can't stand there and try to get her to put her number in your phone. She's at work. She has shit…
/r/seduction20/04/22 07:21 PM
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Yes but that's not going to change the basic structure of a cold approach during the day. It's great for meeting people in line, or at the table across from you, or the person shopping next you. But not for that girl you see walking by smiling at you. Once you approach her you're doing a daygame approach and there's some basics that can help that interaction go as smoothly as possible. But more importantly than that, "learn to talk to all strangers," is piss poor advice. This sub is a version of…
/r/seduction20/04/22 07:15 PM
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Well that's not a good opener. You actually do want something from them. You know this, we know this, and she knows this. So when you walk up and beat around the bush it's awkward and she's not down to talk to some salesman or missionary so she wants you to get to the point so she knows how to act and respond. This is no bueno. You're doing what's called an indirect opener during daygame, when it's better suited for nightgame. You can beat around the bush and just be social at the bar or club, b…
/r/seduction20/04/22 07:09 PM
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Context matters has been a statement and piece of wisdom well before Models lol, but I won't ever tell anyone not to read it. The link I posted tells them to read Models in fact. Mark Manson is mentioned in the very first paragraph.
/r/seduction20/04/22 06:41 PM
3

She already said no. Stop asking.
/r/seduction20/04/22 06:14 PM
8

Just a quick fundamentals lesson for the lurkers: This is a good example of teasing. It is not a neg. A neg would be, "That dress sucks...but it makes your ass look nice so it's okay." One is a joke, the other is backhanded. One fosters attraction and rapport with her, the other tries to make her self-conscious and in need of validation. One is good game, the other is kind of scummy and outdated stuff that might work on people who aren't in a good place in their life but will probably actually g…
/r/seduction20/04/22 06:13 PM
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Yeah man, it just totally depends. You could ruin a coffee date by talking about her ass, or you could solidify a one night stand at the bar at 1am by mentioning her ass lol. You could be a creep if you text your secret crush saying she's sexy, but you could get laid if you say the same thing to the girl you've been on 2 dates with and kissed already. I say focus on physical escalation instead. Start with a hug, high fives, palm reading, hand holding, kissing, and all the way to sex with a whole…
/r/seduction20/04/22 05:35 PM
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No because this isn't really how seduction works. The context matters. It matters how you know the girl, where you met and when you met. The location matters. The circumstances matter. There's fundamentals to this stuff and I think you need to do some reading. Compliments won't get you laid and they won't get you the girl. Here is my explanation of fundamental seduction.
/r/seduction20/04/22 04:25 PM
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Yes you should stop ASAP. No means no. And there's lots of ways to convey a no. That's one thing the old school PUA nerds had trouble with, and it's only natural to make this mistake growing up in a society that romanticizes stalker like behavior in movies and pop songs. There's nothing wrong whatsoever with shooting your shot. Sometimes you can fuck up and still catch the rebound. But if you straight up miss, then the play is over and it's time to move on. Abundance mindset means there's plenty…
/r/seduction20/04/22 03:44 PM
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Is seduction stuff basically for guys who are underdeveloped in qualities such as look and career No, seduction is stuff basically for guys who are underdeveloped in social skills. Some people grow up wit tons of friends, being the center of attention, not really giving a fuck about what people think about them, no hesitation when joining a conversation. That's what you call a natural. By some nature and nurture, they developed skills as an adolescent that we did not. You can learn those skills …
/r/seduction20/04/22 03:39 PM
1

I've had 2 very serious relationships and dozens of hookups from Tinder over the years. It's just ine way to meet women you might not be able to encounter in your day to day life. It is what you make of it
/r/seduction19/04/22 02:36 PM
11

Excellent idea brother. I'll throw it out there for the newbies, ACTION DATES are a cheat code. Ever thought something like, "what if I run out of stuff to say??" Then don't have dates where you need shit to say!! There's no time to think like that when you're climbing rocks, throwing a disk, shooting hoops, or playing arcade games. I promise.
/r/seduction16/04/22 05:56 PM
1

This one OP. Take a few business card and write you personal number (if appropriate for your job). Then leave one behind. Ball's in her court. If anyone asks why your personal is there, just show them the rest with it written and just say that you include it in case clients can't reach you. Anymore than that puts you at risk for being cancelled, and rightfully so. Most women don't want to be hit on by someone in your position. Even your compliment was pretty borderline, and you'd better say a li…
/r/seduction15/04/22 05:13 PM
1

It's over. That was your chance to do something. It would be pretty weird now. I'm getting the vibe that you're fixated on this girl and you're not approaching other women.
/r/seduction15/04/22 04:55 PM
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No, the thought of their girl living naked in a house getting groped and probably banging rich dudes for money is dreadful lol. People hitting on your girl is just part of the game, although I'm sure there's plenty of insecurity in average men out there.
/r/seduction15/04/22 04:38 PM
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Lol good dudes don't date her because she's a porn model and that turns a lot of people off when it comes to serious relationships. Beautiful women have all kinds of men coming after the, and frequently have partners. More so than the general population. I'd say the porn has more to do with it
/r/seduction15/04/22 04:30 PM
2

One argument I hear is that what's different from posting a bikini photo They're right, there's no difference. Bikini pics are also for validation lol
/r/seduction11/04/22 09:44 PM
1

I wouldn't date that person, but I have a lot more dating success and self-esteem than a lot of dudes. I think when you have the privilege of being choosy (took a lot of hard work over years btw), you won't settle for situation like this.
/r/seduction11/04/22 07:28 PM
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Having a great desire for online validation of her body is a big red flag to me. But we don't know the post, know her, know her friend group, or what her other posts are like. Only you can decide if it works for you or not. If you wouldn't mind then there's nothing to do or talk about really. Any situation that makes you wonder like this is a shit test, and not responding at all is a popular and successful way to handle them.
/r/seduction11/04/22 07:17 PM
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Well she said she likes you, thinks highly of you, and is going to go against her inclination to ghost so...I would feel mildly good? Those are all good things she said.
/r/seduction11/04/22 07:02 PM
1

Are you dumb?
/r/seduction11/04/22 03:24 PM
4

Exactly. It's not seduction if you're not getting laid. Getting a response in Insta is not a success lol
/r/seduction10/04/22 12:28 AM
2

How many have you slept with?
/r/seduction10/04/22 12:27 AM
4

If she accuses you of being a stalker you say, "what a weird thing to make up lol," and then walk away and don't ever engage with her again. What she has to say does not matter at all. If you're not pursuing, which is good, then stop talking to her and stop worrying about her.
/r/seduction07/04/22 02:21 AM
1

Depends what you mean. If you've been laying around refusing to work, cook, clean, or bathe yourself and are spiraling into something then sure she should probably leave. Life is hard enough, she can't be responsible for your self worth and happiness too. You usually have to figure that stuff out before you can have a healthy relationship. If you've felt sad because your old doggy died, and just don't really want to go out or whatever, she should stay. Depends what you mean, and I have a feeling…
/r/seduction07/04/22 02:15 AM
1

If he needs to prove something to himself that's his business.
/r/seduction07/04/22 02:04 AM
2

Kino escalation is a gradual and slow process. Sure you can kiss at the end of a first date, but it should not be a surprise to her. You're not looking for an opening. If you're looking for an opening, that means you're looking for the best time to sneak in and kiss her. There's two things wrong with that. One, it's a turn off. Girls don't want a surprise kiss. Two, it means you didn't do any set up the whole date. If you haven't been physical the entire date, then you just spent a few hours rei…
/r/seduction06/04/22 06:30 PM
2

You're not gonna learn anything by asking a bunch of random, basic questions. Imagine you never learned algebra so you go online and start asking, "all my friends say x=5 but x isn't a number, what gives?" You need a structured and ordered learning schedule. This sub is for questions that come up during that schedule. This sub is like tutoring, not the classroom. Tutoring does you no good if you didn't go to class. As for your question, look up, "kino escalation," on Google and on Youtube. As fo…
/r/seduction06/04/22 04:57 PM
2

Reply to what? Reply implies they said something first. Not adding doesn't require a reoly, it requires you to leave her alone.
/r/seduction05/04/22 04:11 AM
1

You already knew the answer to that one buddy
/r/seduction04/04/22 04:30 PM
8

Actually no, value means something here and it's not a currency metric.
/r/seduction31/03/22 08:56 PM
16

Yeah like 25 or later. Should we raise the age of consent to 25?
/r/seduction31/03/22 08:55 PM
16

You're in the wrong sub. The advice here is to not use money to attract people. The other dating subs might need to hear this, but we've already learned that. It's the basics.
/r/seduction31/03/22 07:21 PM
16

You don't speak for the entirety of the female population Nobody cares what you think. The women we spend time with, hookup with, and date all have their own desires, preferences, and opinions. We listen to them and to constructive advice, not the opinions of internet strangers trying to tear someone down. Feel how you want, it doesn't affect us so we ignore it. That's all.
/r/seduction31/03/22 07:18 PM
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You don't speak for the entirety of the female population lol. Nobody cares what you think or feel. We care about the women we interact with, that's all that matters.
/r/seduction31/03/22 07:06 PM
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Yeah everyone thinks this when they're 20. It'll pass. Go date other people. You're probably not gonna find a keeper this month, or this year. But who cares? Does it really matter if it takes you 5 years to find, "the one?" If you're 25 and she's 22, you're still a young man in your prime with a big future ahead. I'm sorry that's not helpful, but it's true.
/r/seduction31/03/22 07:04 PM
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Nobody gets laid from Insta DM's unless you're a celebrity or your profile makes you look like a rich, world travelling adventurer or something. Normal dudes getting instagrams instead of numbers means you were rejected.
/r/seduction31/03/22 07:01 PM
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That's not for him to decide. He decides who he's attracted to, the women decide for themselves if he's too old or not.
/r/seduction31/03/22 06:58 PM
1

Your inability to provide a stable lifestyle and support children and leisurely activities is indeed a red flag. That doesn't mean you can't get laid though. You can use pickup advice to get laid, but pickup is not sufficient on its own to find something lasting and meaningful. Just having a 5 year plan to alleviate debt and be more successful is a good starting place.
/r/seduction24/03/22 06:37 PM
1

Why isn’t “just be yourself” good enough. I’m funny, confident, assertive, I have balls to make the approach and escalate. Good externals like a good future ahead, and good looks. Is that not enough. That is enough, which means it's not all true since you're not succeeding. All the shit you described is stuff that people just do naturally. Some of us weren't born or raised with that stuff, so we have to work on those things one at a time in your interactions with women until we get good. Yes it …
/r/seduction24/03/22 04:01 PM
2

If you value this person's friendship and have no intentions of ever dating them, which you will never do, then it could be a win-win scenario. Depends how well you know them. If they think of you as a friendzoned dude they kind of know, they might actually think it's weird. It really depends. If your goal is to be really good friend with this person, it's worth a shot. If you somehow think this will make them like you, or if you think that this is a normal step in the courtship process, you're …
/r/seduction16/03/22 04:53 PM
6

Stop subtly mentioning shit. If you like someone, explicitly ask them on a date. Then there's no confusion.
/r/seduction16/03/22 12:31 AM
2

That's and absurdly broad question and you'd be better off reading a book on the topic, or some top posts in the sub like this or this.
/r/seduction09/03/22 12:23 AM
1

and can’t imagine having a relationship right now with her schedule So you do know that there's more than just relationships and being celibate, right?
/r/seduction09/03/22 12:12 AM
1

Move on.
/r/seduction09/03/22 12:04 AM
1

What makes you think that they think you're a player? Do the verbalize this?
/r/seduction08/03/22 11:11 PM
1

Move on.
/r/seduction07/03/22 05:48 PM
1

I never take anyone to dinner on a first date. Just don't. It sounds like you're getting girls by flaunting your status and/or money. That's the first problem.
/r/seduction07/03/22 04:20 PM
9

This is where old school PUA shit shined. Mystery said something along the lines of, "hot girls rarely go out [nightlife] alone."
/r/seduction04/03/22 05:15 AM
0

The goal here is never to, "make her feel bad." You don't people to like you because they feel bad, and you have nothing to gain from such a thing. On top of that, no it won't.
/r/seduction02/03/22 05:21 PM
1

What will work?
/r/seduction02/03/22 02:53 PM
18

No it won't. Not at all
/r/seduction02/03/22 06:24 AM
6

You're not supposed to be nice and hang out with people that screw you over
/r/seduction02/03/22 06:23 AM
10

So how many of these girls did you bang?
/r/seduction01/03/22 03:40 PM
5

I don't understand why you don't just block her and then never unblock her. C'mon bro
/r/seduction25/02/22 05:29 AM
1

There's no such thing as smooth lines, we could have helped you here before you spent all that money. Go read Models by Mark Manson
/r/seduction25/02/22 01:44 AM
1

Bruh if you can't even figure out what inner game is you're not ready to change
/r/seduction25/02/22 01:42 AM
1

Mods, honestly can we not ban this shit?
/r/seduction25/02/22 01:40 AM
1

No,that's stupid
/r/seduction20/02/22 05:16 PM
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This sub is full of little weenies who suck at seduction but think they have nothing left to learn. If you don't think there's any value in studying how Pete Davidson carries himself and interacts with women, there's either no hope for you or you're a cocky little beginner who just banged a 6/10 and you think you're hot shit now. Thanks for the interesting post OP. These clowns aren't ready to learn yet.
/r/seduction17/02/22 10:56 PM
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Nobody said you need to give up on finding something real my dude. I said, "and if you happen to stumble on someone special, this sub can help you capitalize on that." If you're actively looking for a committed relationship like an old dude on EHarmony you're gonna turn off women your age. It's needy. These girls are chasing their dreams and having a blast, the smallest sign that you might interfere with their fun will make you lose them. Being someone who is reliant on their affection for happi…
/r/seduction15/02/22 11:48 PM
3

Brother, the first time a girl friendzones you it's over. You will never have a romantic relationship with this girl, every hangout from now on will be platonic. That's okay, but not if you're gonna be secretly crushing on her forever. You're gonna have to date other people.
/r/seduction15/02/22 11:38 PM
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One, no it's not the reason you're depressed. If you can't be happy on your own, don't expect to have a healthy happy relationship. People have their own shit to deal with, you can't make them responsible for your happiness too. Two, yes that is terrible advice. You do need to know how to flirt. "Just be yourself," is nonsense. That's 101 level stuff here. Three, you're 21 years old. Worrying about finding something real is crazy. Odds are whoever you meet in college will be moving halfway acros…
/r/seduction15/02/22 11:00 PM
5

It doesn't matter if they're great if they aren't into you.
/r/seduction15/02/22 06:21 PM
5

You don't "demand" it lol. Basically, you should have a reason to get her number. You're not making a request, you're making a suggestion due to circumstances that make you having her number a reasonable thing. For example, if you've been talking to this girl for hours about rock climbing, you'd say something like, "hey my friends just text me that they're leaving so I have to head out. Let me get your number and I'll hit you up next time I go climbing." If a possible answer to, "can I get your …
/r/seduction14/02/22 05:31 PM
1

If you have a "crush" and you haven't asked her out, you're failing at step 0 of seduction. We don't do crushes here. If you have no intentions of dating her then it's a non issue. If you do would like to go out with her, then you need to do something about it. The longer you wait, the less likely you are to succeed.
/r/seduction14/02/22 04:44 PM
1

Well it kind of matters where you live buddy
/r/seduction14/02/22 04:38 PM
0

You don't get to know people through text, you do that in person. You should be getting off the phone and meeting up in person ASAP. However much texting it takes you to get the date is how much you should text. The longer that takes, the less likely you are to end up meeting. That doesn't mean don't text at all. You obviously need to make some small talk, banter, tell some jokes, and just overall let her get comfortable before you ask her out. However, that can be done in 10 texts or less if yo…
/r/seduction14/02/22 03:37 PM
2

Social circle game for me. Make friends with girls, they invite you out with their girls. Maybe you hit it off with their girls, and if not, walking into the bar with a bunch of pretty girls makes cold approaching way easier. Having parties is a great way to invite new acquaintances over and get to know them too. Then there's Tinder/Hinge/Bumble.
/r/seduction12/02/22 12:20 AM
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You don't. They didn't put their Instagram there because they want to meet people in their DMs. They put it their because they like attention and want followers. Unless you have an Insta that makes you look like a rich, world travelling rockstar, DMs are not a good place to meet women. Someone's gonna come in and disagree and before they do they'd better answer ine question in their reply: how many girls have you hooked up with from DMs? Zero is almost always the answer.
/r/seduction11/02/22 01:01 PM
1

That's not how any of this works. Read the sidebsr, read the recommended books, practice approaching. Post a question in opening if you need help with what to say at first. This takes a alot of work, more than just shitposting
/r/seduction11/02/22 12:58 PM
3

First date conversation isn't a good way to put it. There's no guarantee you're hooking up on the first date. It is first hookup convo though. First off, when surveyed, women report wanting 2 things during sex: rougher and more noise on your part. The noise is a feedback thing, let her know what feels good and doesn't. Which leads me to the next point, yes, communication is incredibly important to good sex. You don't have to make it an awkward conversation. Just start off a bit dominant and at s…
/r/seduction11/02/22 12:14 AM
2

Here you go brother
/r/seduction10/02/22 11:57 PM
2

Don't listen to people like this OP. They don't have your best interests at heart. A first date is a great time to get to know someone that you find attractive. You're doing good.
/r/seduction10/02/22 06:11 PM
1

I seduce myself hard twice a day, when does it start working?
/r/seduction09/02/22 11:06 PM
1

You don't.
/r/seduction09/02/22 11:00 PM
5

If you've both spent years apart developing as people, and life brings you together again, sure.
/r/seduction09/02/22 10:59 PM
2

"Do you want to activity at location on day at time?" A little small talk and banter before helps. Don't say anything about wanting to get to know her. That's implied by asking her out. Do ask her out sooner rather than later. Don't try to get to know her slowly through text over weeks, that's a one way ticket to the friendzone.
/r/seduction09/02/22 10:48 PM
11

Bang 10 other chicks then decide how you feel.
/r/seduction09/02/22 10:34 PM
11

Kino is kino brother. You just do it, and if she's not into it at anytime, you take two steps back and maybe try again later. i know you're nervious, but you just have to practice it. Here's my kino routine: Start the date by greeting her with a hug. Normalize touching each other. Never sit across from her, sit next to her. When she says something awesome or mentions an accomplishment of hers, give her a high five. If she says something crazy or super awesome, touch her shoulder or arm in disbel…
/r/seduction09/02/22 10:09 PM
2

Yes, this flushes out your urethra. That said, just wear a condom dude. The chances of you catching the herps is incredibly high and there's no good reason to bang some rando without a condom on.
/r/seduction09/02/22 03:56 PM
1

Don't miss out on a woman that wants you. How else is someone supposed to interpret that??? "Don't miss out on a woman who is attractive and in to you and available and there's no consequences, etc." Is that how I'm supposed to interpret it...? Either way it makes the whole piece of advice nonsense lol
/r/seduction08/02/22 05:31 PM
-2

Don't miss out on a woman that wants you. That's some major AFC simp shit lol. Do you understand how many less than attractive women chase a man with game? They all want me, I'm supposed to not pass them up? For what reason? An orgasm? I don't need to hookup with a smelly gremlin to get that... People with game pass women up all the time.
/r/seduction07/02/22 11:27 PM
6

This isn't an ethics sub so I'm going to answer this from a seduction point of view: guys with tight game don't need to hookup with married women. If you've got game, there's a hot single chick in your near future. If you don't have game, then you would understandably not want to pass this opportunity up. How you proceed is entirely up to you.
/r/seduction07/02/22 11:26 PM
1

Date other people dude. And always listen to a woman's actions. If she wanted to meet up, she would have already. If you move on and date other people, you can take some of this attention off her and it might make her chase you. No guarantees, but it won't matter since you'll be meeting other people anyways.
/r/seduction07/02/22 10:53 PM
1

No worries, this is a place to learn. Here is a comment I left someone else on physical escalation. You don't have to make it all the way. If you can make it as far as holding hands or snuggling up on each other that's a major win. Don't force it, and if she ever pulls back, just act normal but take a couple of steps back in the process.
/r/seduction07/02/22 10:48 PM
4

Well, you're not off to a great start with the whole, "be friendly," thing. You're borderline friendzoned, so there's that. I think first we need to calibrate your expectations a bit. This girl is probably not going to end up being your gf, ever. If she's saying things like that, she's not in the right place to begin fostering a new long term relationship. That said, here's the good news: women absolutely have rebounds around this time. Any attractive girl has a bunch of dudes hitting her up onc…
/r/seduction07/02/22 10:43 PM
2

Brother, you need to slow your roll. First things first, stop using the word, "girlfriend." You're so far away from having a girlfriend that it has no place in this discussion. Next, a party where a girl is wasted is not the place to make your move. It's the place to catch a charge in the worst case. That said, it can be the place where you get to know her some more, and build some comfort and rapport with her. Then before the end of the night, you ask her out on a date. That's all there is to i…
/r/seduction07/02/22 10:28 PM
1

Start here, then go here.
/r/seduction07/02/22 06:06 PM
2

Date other people dude
/r/seduction07/02/22 06:03 PM
14

You're tripping. If it gets to the point where your friends are being annoying and asking if she likes you, you've already fucked up. If that's what she has to say to make them stfu, so be it. You should be the one to tell your friends to chill so she doesn't have to.
/r/seduction07/02/22 05:56 PM
18

She told you her limits. You're either cool with them or not. Either wife her up or move on, I personally have a boundary of not getting into a relationship with someone I haven't slept with lol
/r/seduction07/02/22 03:24 PM
11

Relax dude, you're 19 lol
/r/seduction07/02/22 02:42 PM
1

Then do it?
/r/seduction07/02/22 02:42 PM
1

You were right to not ask. This is her job, she's not flirting.
/r/seduction04/02/22 02:59 PM
14

RSD moving away from pick up set the community back years. Most newbies haven't had any exposure to the old concepts and frameworks, so they come here completely blind. Instead of checking out the sidebar and familiarizing themselves with the content, they ask dumbass 101 level questions over and over again. Either that, or they immediately go on an incel rant about how there's no hope for them even though they have not tried a single thing to change themselves. The incels sub shutting down also…
/r/seduction03/02/22 04:39 PM
6

Intense flirty conversation aren't that common. Physical touch is generally how you will escalate things towards romance. So I'm thinking that you're waiting too long to escalate physically. You say you do this on the couch, but you could be working your way towards a kiss on the very first date. By the time you even reach the couch, they should already be pretty comfortable touching and kissing you. Less talking, more touching. Also, less talking on dates, and more action. Action dates are good…
/r/seduction03/02/22 03:59 PM
11

Who cares dude? Is looking at a woman and trying to decipher if she's promiscuous or not really helpful to people coming here trying to learn how to be successful in dating? You got to ask your little research question, now it's removed because it doesn't contribute that much to the sub. Just message the mods and ask what rule it broke. I think you're the only one upset about that post being gone.
/r/seduction03/02/22 03:14 PM
9

If you can't get comfortable having a quick 5 minute chat with a group of strangers at the bar, you're gonna be perceived as a creep hitting on women at the grocery store. There's no easy way to do this. You have to develop your social skills before you start walking up on women in the produce section lol
/r/seduction03/02/22 03:07 PM
1

You don't. IG DMs is not the place to pick up women.
/r/seduction03/02/22 02:56 PM
99

Don't. Shitty girls do that shit. Men with game do not. If you scheduled an obligation, be there. If you really have something else you need to do, just text her and tell her the truth. If you're just not that into her, just text her and tell her the truth. There's no way to make her more attracted to you by flaking, and yes that's what you will be, a flake.
/r/seduction03/02/22 12:09 AM
1

Literally just ask him. Text is fine
/r/seduction02/02/22 11:56 PM
5

Here it is OP. This comment right here ^ This is what you were asking for, a very common misconception lol. 10/10s have men approaching them all day every day. I dated a fucking world travelling model and we could go out for one night without dudes trying to AMOG me for her attention. She had hella dudes sliding into her DMs at all times. It's nonsense.
/r/seduction02/02/22 11:01 PM
12

You can buy protein powder at Walmart for cheap. One shake after every workout should put you in a decent range to get big. Don't forget you have to eat big to get big. You'll probably want to cut weight once or twice a year too if you put on too much fat. Can't get muscle without a little bit of fat. Be sure to take some time to do cardio. All that is to say, I agree with this commenter. By the time you're college aged you could be jacked, and that will be a huge benefit. Next, just focus on be…
/r/seduction02/02/22 08:13 PM
25

They're not going to teach you anything you can't learn online. If you need to pay $1,000 to have someone force you to talk to women, that's your decision to make my dude
/r/seduction02/02/22 03:25 PM
2

She could very well be looking for dudes to DM her. Yes that was covered in the comment, try reading better
/r/seduction02/02/22 03:12 PM
4

Well you're wrong lol
/r/seduction02/02/22 03:11 PM
115

"I do it for measingettingabunchofattentionmakesMEfeelgood"
/r/seduction02/02/22 03:10 PM
2

Nobody knows what that means dude. Did you ask her out? Have you been on a date? Are you texting? What's the situation?
/r/seduction02/02/22 03:08 PM
1

Trust me, there used to be loads of material on outer game on the internet. Ever since RSD moved away from pick up, the art has been dying. It's awesome that there's way more focus on inner game now. It's important to real long term success. Bit sending out struggling newbies to, "trial and error bro," is exactly how communities like this catch a bad rep. If I make an out game post, what aspect should I cover first?
/r/seduction29/01/22 10:53 PM
0

That was a miss buddy
/r/seduction28/01/22 08:58 PM
2

Then by all means, by her a drink. It's a date, so it's fine. Like you said, some conversation is about all you can expect. If she offers to buy you a drink or get the second round, that a pretty good indicator of interest.
/r/seduction28/01/22 03:57 PM
1

This sub is a shadow of it's former self. There's a ton of theory you can find in the sidebar, and a bunch of books to learn this stuff. The community has largely forgot about outer game though. I doubt any of the top comments here are from people who see lots of success. "Trial and error bro," is bad advice. Good practice makes perfect. Bad practice reinforces bad habits and earns you a reputation as a creep. I'll start making some outer game posts soon. Hit me up for a training guide and book …
/r/seduction28/01/22 03:54 PM
0

Don't even expect a conversation. Expect her to say thanks and go back to her friends lol
/r/seduction28/01/22 03:39 PM
3

You can't buy attraction with drinks and it's needy. It's non-verbal language for, "here I got you something now the least you can do is talk to me." It doesn't increase the likelihood of her liking you in the real world. You're more likely to get used for free drinks, women will sometimes do this. By all means buy her a drink on the first date and later, just not when you first meet/approach/open her.
/r/seduction28/01/22 02:59 PM
2

Don't buy girls drinks. That's pick up 101
/r/seduction28/01/22 05:13 AM
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For escalation: Here is a comment I left someone else on how to work up towards a kiss on a date. Basically the same applies to getting the lay. Escalation is slow and gradual. It can take multiple dates. This is a video by an OG PUA, Lovedrop, talking about kino escalation. Now specifically for f-closing (the lay): This takes place after you've managed to do all of the above. Once she's comfortable making out with you, you can try to escalate higher Step 1: You need to get to your place. For me…
/r/seduction27/01/22 11:47 PM
0

I would also like to clarify I’m still a beginner with Instagram game Then don't be telling me shit about game lol, I've done all the hard work so you guys can listen and not waste your time messaging girls halfway across the planet. Your efforts would be better spent elsewhere. Good luck man.
/r/seduction27/01/22 10:21 PM
1

This: These girls live in different countries so I can't go on dates with them Is not compatible with this: this proves that Instagram game works Woman will message a ton of guys to kill the boredom. I'm sorry dude, but those screenshots were not examples of success. If you don't have an example of you sliding into a woman's DMs, getting her number, scoring a date, and getting laid, then it's not an example of success. If you, with pretty good game, are only having text conversations with women …
/r/seduction27/01/22 10:13 PM
3

I got you. But hey man, approaching isn't until step 5! Check out those books and see how you feel afterwards. Any babysteps you can take in the meantime will all be helpful. You can remove some of the pressure by removing sex from the equation. Ask your cashier or the person behind the desk at the gym how their day is going. If you haven't already, consider consulting a psychiatrist. They may give you some anxiety reducing prescription to take before particularly stressful times like presentati…
/r/seduction27/01/22 09:25 PM
10

Yep, specifically night game. That means bars, clubs, and house parties. The girl at the bookstore might want to hookup, but it's just not a great place to be super flirty and bold. Daygame is better for getting a first date that may develop into something more. Nightgame is where the most of the casual hookups come from. Indirect approaches are better for nightgame. Just be open, fun, and social is the goal. Here's an example opener: Excuse me, that drink looks sooo good. Can you tell me what's…
/r/seduction27/01/22 07:44 PM
6

First off, if anyone's downvoting you it's not me. This is a place to learn. Second, you really don't think the people that get good at this started with approach anxiety and low self-esteem? Dude, you haven't even worked out your inner game, you can't talk about how hard it is to get women if you haven't even taken your baby steps in game. I was fat, emotional nerdboy with a big nose in high school and had to change my life around. If I can do it, you can do it. Here's my training regimen for y…
/r/seduction27/01/22 07:30 PM
10

You don't ask with your words. A kiss shouldn't be a surprise. By the time you kiss her, she should know it's coming. You escalate the physicality gradually and slowly. This is called kino escalation. First you greet her with a hug. Then you give her a high five or fist bump when she tells you about some accomplishment. Touch her shoulder or touch her arm in shock when she tells a funny or surprising story. Teach her a secret handshake. Initiate thumb wrestling. Now you've been touching her hand…
/r/seduction27/01/22 07:12 PM
3

Have you been practicing seduction/pick up for a long time?
/r/seduction27/01/22 07:05 PM
2

I'm 6'3, I run 5x a week, I have a legitimate interest in high fashion so I dress extremely well, I have hair, skin and grooming regimes to the brink of metrosexuality, etc You are the Chads bro.
/r/seduction27/01/22 06:59 PM
1

I'm sorry but no. If you're nothing special, a place about optics like Instagram is not a god place to try and pick up women. A regular dude sliding into someone's DMs has incredibly low chances of success. I challenge you to post screenshots of one success you have had in Instagram DMs.
/r/seduction27/01/22 06:36 PM
4

First, think of something better than walking around and smoking cigars. I advise something active, but something chill is fine too. Then message her, say hi/what's up, make some small talk or jokes or whatever, just do your usual thing. After a few back and forth messages, literally just ask her on a date. You say, "I'm thinking about doing insert activity on insert day around insert time. Do you want to join?" Let me know what she says and I'll help you out.
/r/seduction27/01/22 06:07 PM
4

Have most guys worked on themselves? Because I see a lot of scrawny/super fat dudes with greasy hair and poor fitting clothes that complain that girls never like them. Most guys here in this sub probably work on themselves, but you'd be surprised how many dude can't or won't cook/clean or even wipe their ass right lol. What exactly about this post do you disagree with? A woman should love you as you are, regardless of whether or not you're shitty? A woman does owe you love and affection? A quali…
/r/seduction27/01/22 05:55 PM
37

Half the women on Tinder, and half the women who are flirting at a bar do not want a serious relationship. It's 2022, there's as many if not more women in the dating pool who just want something casual at the moment. Finding them isn't an issue, so I suspect you're stuck in some part of the process. Opening? Escalating? Getting the lay? Getting a date? Second date? The, "what are we," talk? What part are you having trouble with exactly?
/r/seduction27/01/22 05:37 PM
6

Anyone doing intentional shit tests is not someone worth hanging out with. For all of you lurkers, a shit test isn't a literal test someone administers to you lol, and OP is a little confused about what these tests are too. If a woman is consciously testing you, that's a red flag, next her, it's not worth it. Now for a lesson: A shit test is a situation or statement that requires a response from you, and how you respond could make or break your success with the woman. Your response could either …
/r/seduction27/01/22 04:36 PM
1

This is shit advice op it is only a problem if once a relationship comes up you dodge it or lie Just don't lie and you're fine. Mhm, so I said the same thing as you and it's shit advice? Take a few days from the internet dude
/r/seduction26/01/22 09:41 PM
1

Not from instagram Dms they don't
/r/seduction26/01/22 09:37 PM
2

If a woman did that, what am I supposed to do with the info? Give u a follow and move along? Umm follow her and then message her to say hi. Is that really not obvious? Why would you just follow her and move along? How did you come to that conclusion?? Lol
/r/seduction25/01/22 11:25 PM
1

Make small talk, eye contact, smile. If you get good vibes, ask a coworker to give her your number. Then the ball is in her court and she doesn't have to awkwardly say yes or no while you stand there.
/r/seduction25/01/22 11:24 PM
2

Do you want to date people? You don't have to lol, you can just focus on your work. If you want to date people, I suggest giving these a read or listen to give yourself a foundation: Modern Romance Models
/r/seduction25/01/22 03:16 PM
3

"Looking forward to sushi tonight. You should send me your number in case we need to get in touch"
/r/seduction25/01/22 03:12 PM
4

You're not stupid and if you had a good time then you're living your best life breh. Nothing wrong with smoking with a cute girl, and it's fantastic practice regardless of if it goes any further or not. BUT, you could have escalated if you wanted.
/r/seduction25/01/22 02:57 PM
3

Guys who get lots of girls don't chase too much. No need when women are pursuing him. This makes him appear desired and desirable. This is called pre-selection. If lots of women like you, you must be a pretty chill dude at least. This allows women to lower their social guards a bit because they don't have to wonder whether or not this dude is a weirdo or something lol. That said, there's a time to wait, and there's also a time to go for what you want. Differentiating between those situations is …
/r/seduction22/01/22 03:16 AM
3

I'm not assuming anything about you. I told you what negging is. It doesn't matter what you consider an insecurity, it has nothing to do with you. it's about her and what how she feels. If you tell a girl you like something that she may be insecure about, and you genuinely mean it and express it with tact and sincerity, then of course it's not negging. if you tell a girl you like something about her that wouldn't normally be an insecurity for anyone, then it's not negging. Those are just complim…
/r/seduction20/01/22 11:22 PM
8

It's more like identifying someone's insecurities, then bringing it up with the guise of a compliment. You might actually think the gap in her teeth is cute, but you also know that it's something she's insecure about and probably won't feel super good about if you bring it up. This relates to the concept of value. Assuming she has higher value than you, you can do two thing. First, you can demonstrate value. Alternatively, you can bring her value down by making her feel insecure. It's immoral. T…
/r/seduction20/01/22 08:32 PM
2

It's the top book recommended here, you can see the author's AMA to the right on the sidebar --->
/r/seduction20/01/22 05:44 PM
3

You should go through this whole book if you haven't already: Models by Mark Manson. It's pretty important for getting your inner game on point, and has some key takeaways for outer game as well.
/r/seduction20/01/22 04:49 PM
14

Just put, "something casual," in your dating profile. If she ever asks, "what are you looking for," just tell the truth. You don't have to just straight up bring it up during a date, that's not very tactful. But if you get the vibes after a date or two that she's trying to date you seriously, you can bring up the, "what are you looking for," topic yourself. Just don't lie and you're fine.
/r/seduction19/01/22 09:30 PM
6

Nope, just don't lie to anyone. There's plenty of women who want something very casual.
/r/seduction19/01/22 09:27 PM
2

None. If your profile shows that you're a fookin rockstar that travels the world, models, spends time on boats, goes to fancy parties, etc., then you may get a reply. If your profile isn't like that, then you're just a creeper.
/r/seduction19/01/22 08:28 PM
1

Only if you're trying to practice settling
/r/seduction19/01/22 03:01 PM
1

Maybe you can only talk lol, all of those dudes in the sidebar over there to the right do more than talk. If you're in this sub looking for advice and your didn't peruse the material then you're fucking up.
/r/seduction19/01/22 02:53 PM
4

None of this conversation is about lying, it's about communication
/r/seduction19/01/22 02:46 PM
1

Then get good
/r/seduction04/01/22 01:35 AM
32

Because you're here learning how to socialize with women instead of walking up to girls saying, "ay bby u got a bf." You are learning and not just shitposting, right?
/r/seduction03/01/22 03:17 AM
7

It's just a take. Everyone can have their own way. It's just his way of saying, "don't be needy."
/r/seduction03/01/22 03:13 AM
3

You might need to look for an introvert who would rather play video games then. The srat girl at the club probably isn't for you.
/r/seduction29/12/21 04:19 PM
2

Depends on who and at what stage. If you're trying to force a deep conversation with someone who just wants to get dicked down after cocktails then you'll have a bad time. If you're trying to be lighthearted and cocky/funny 2 hours into the third date with a woman with a master's degree who's looking for a serious relationship, then you'll have a bad time. That's called calibration. In general, when first meeting people/approaching, the first 10-20 minutes can be pretty surface level as long as …
/r/seduction29/12/21 04:17 PM
1

Get your HPV vaccinations then go for it. The only thing there is to worry about would be oral herpes, but you'll most likely get that in your life sometime by just kissing girls. You could potentially get something like Chlamydia in your throat, but this is cleared up with single dose of antibiotics. Get tested yearly.
/r/seduction23/12/21 06:15 PM
6

Absolutely not, this is not how STIs work.
/r/seduction23/12/21 06:13 PM
4

Keep in mind his book The Game is not an instruction manual. It's a cautionary tale about not losing yourself to the game. It does however give a pretty good description of classic pickup which helps a lot with terminology and it acts as a good foundation to build upon in a more modern way. My go to suggestion to learn all of the theory in order is: The Game (Cautionary tale and inner game) The Mystery Method (Outer game, Neil Strauss's teacher, outdated but a good foundation) Models by Mark Man…
/r/seduction23/12/21 05:45 PM
0

"Confidence," is also none of the advice here either. I will concede that this sub is dying and I will advise that nobody ask questions here or listen to most of the newly written comments. However, the book "Models" and all of the old content on the sidebar are the foundations of the theory here. None of that advises faking it or to, "just be confident." I'm trying to redirect everyone who needs dating help to my post here.
/r/seduction22/12/21 10:08 PM
2

This is a prime example of how to respond to, "shit tests."
/r/seduction22/12/21 07:37 PM
-3

No it's not and I encourage you to show me one post on the front page doing so.
/r/seduction22/12/21 06:45 PM
2

You have to either be extremely high value (top 20 percent) or fake being that extremely high value I fixed that for you. You become high value. Does not need to be any top tier percent, and nobody advised you to pretend. You decided to skip inner game, but nobody here suggested that was a good idea.
/r/seduction22/12/21 05:29 PM
79

He's not onto something. He skipped seduction 101 and started doing his own thing somehow. All of the basic advice here, especially inner game, and all of our favorite book "Models" absolutely and very clearly advises against faking it or performing. Dude needs to check out the side bar and needs to be called out.
/r/seduction22/12/21 05:27 PM
1

Nobody here or in any seduction guide advised you to fake it. If you've actually studied or engaged here, you've been advised against it. Pick up a copy of "Models" by Mark Manson and start from square one dude.
/r/seduction22/12/21 05:26 PM
1

clarity was lacking No it wasn't, they directly quoted exactly what they were responding too lol
/r/seduction21/12/21 05:50 PM
3

You've got issues dude
/r/seduction21/12/21 05:19 PM
1

You're lost dude. You're the one who established that context. They were replying to this specific part you wrote, "Now if she feels uncomfortable for some reason and looks at me like, 'Please get me out of this' - then that would be a reason to step in." Then you replied oddly, then the next response was clarifying the context you created, then you replied oddly again, and then there's me lol
/r/seduction21/12/21 05:19 PM
0

I don't give two fucks about being blocked, and for the newbies here to learn, take notice that he did not deny it. You don't need any advice here to get laid guys. You can go to a divey sports bar right now and hookup with a chainsmoking granny for the price of dinner at Red Lobster. However, the point of this sub and advice is to be successful in dating. That means both in quantity and quality of women you want. The point is not to settle for whatever comes your way. Being a high value man abs…
/r/seduction20/12/21 10:13 PM
0

I'd bet my house these women are NOT cute lol. As for you OP, "value," does not refer to money. You've completely misunderstood the concept.
/r/seduction20/12/21 09:23 PM
5

If eating fast food is unhealthy, why do so many people do it? It's our natural inclination to crave sugar and fat just like it's our natural inclination to crave love and affection. If you don't know any better, which most guys do not, it's easy to just do what you think is natural. That combined with Disney love stories and pop music makes guys naturally think that flooding someone with your time and attention will make them like you. This sub wouldn't be necessary if doing the correct things …
/r/seduction14/12/21 03:51 PM
2

Did you actually read Book of Pook or not? He talks about testosterone nonstop. Lifting weights naturally raises testosterone. Testosterone makes you more outgoing, talkative, energetic, and horny. Hot women tend to be naturally attracted to giys who are high in testosterone, although there's no set rules and there's all sorts of women with all sorts if interests.
/r/seduction11/12/21 04:30 PM
3

No way. Social circle game and having the opportunity to warm approach is 10x easier and does not require cold approaching one bit. It's so much faster to get good at a warm approach. You're skipping a whole step compared to cold approaching after all. Your options are more limited though so it comes down to what kind of social circle you can surround yourself with.
/r/seduction10/12/21 10:44 PM
5

Close to 0%. You would make them uncomfortable and they'd question your intentions. You don't fear for your safety when a woman says, "let's go to my place so I can suck your dick." They fear for their safety when a rando says something similar to them. It's been tried before in person, and online.
/r/seduction10/12/21 06:49 PM
4

Not everyone has the same goals as you. If your goals are to have a successful dating life and date prettier women, it's 100% not necessary. If your goals are to get laid as much as possible, then it is necessary. It's not controversial lol, necessary by definition requires some end objective.
/r/seduction10/12/21 04:41 PM
5

Just because you're not into today's young male fashion doesn't make everyone else a fuckboi. You know what your own style and vibes are so you should know what kinds of women to go for and what scenes to find them at. If you're going for a different type of woman while wondering why they aren't into your style that's your own fault. They're not gonna just date someone outside their type, being mad about it won't help anything. If you want a girl who's into rocker dudes then find a rocker chick.…
/r/seduction05/12/21 11:17 PM
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Sounds like you already know what you want to do. Don't frame it as you feel like you bodycount is an issue, it's not. You want to sleep with other people, that's all there is to it. That's detrimental to a relationship, so sure, break up and go do it. You will regret it. That doesn't mean it's not the right choice though. You'll get over that regret with time. Just know it's gonna hurt more than you think.
/r/seduction24/11/21 04:59 PM
1

It's clear I get numbers. It's clear I get dates So you don't get laid, just like I said lol
/r/seduction17/11/21 02:57 AM
-1

Date someone else
/r/seduction17/11/21 02:30 AM
29

Don't ask dumb questions dude. A hug obviously. Don't play it safe because some girl might not like it. That's their problem and their loss if it's a dealbreaker for them. You really want a stuck up girl who loses her shit over a hug? Be the catch, be the prize
/r/seduction17/11/21 02:28 AM
2

You're weird as shit dude and it's clear you do not get laid. You're not fooling anyone man
/r/seduction17/11/21 02:23 AM
1

I sent you a DM (no dick pics)
/r/seduction09/11/21 07:09 PM
2

No more crushes. If you like someone, ask them out on a date.
/r/seduction08/11/21 05:48 PM
35

Hey if you understand consent and have good intentions this is a best case scenario my dude. I'd rather let a girl invite herself in for a gatorade and a nap instead of wandering the streets like a zombie. You did the right thing every step of the way and it paid off.
/r/seduction05/11/21 08:36 PM
1

In that situation she's just straight up telling you what she wants/needs from you. Decide if you can give that or not, and then tell her and see what happens. In that situation, she clearly likes you so you're playing on easy mode!
/r/seduction05/11/21 08:14 PM
16

You should probably ask her dude, not Reddit. You can't just start inflicting physical/sexual pain people based on strangers' advice on the internet. Ask what she likes and what she consents to.
/r/seduction04/11/21 08:08 PM
2

We're all products of our nature/nurture. If your dad was a high school stud who made you go outside, your neighborhood was filled with kids your age, and you were good looking enough to be popular in school, then you'll probably grow up being better with social interactions than the dude's whose dads are accountants and who play video games all day. That's what being a natural means. The football quarterback Chad at your high school who's dating a cheerleader didn't take a pick up bootcamp did …
/r/seduction04/11/21 07:45 PM
3

I mean why are you asking, you already know the answer. From best to worst: Hot dude with game Chubby average dude with game Hot dude with no game Chubby average dude with no game If you're unattractive, you can make leaps and bounds in attractiveness by lifting weights and getting fashionable, well-fitting clothes. If your game sucks, start learning and start here. To answer your original question, which is also a silly question, it's because some dudes are better looking and/or have better nat…
/r/seduction04/11/21 07:24 PM
3

This right here. Cold approaching for the sake of cold approaching is lame to me. Sure, practice makes perfect, but it's at least a little needy to go approach 15 people in a day. And you will catch a reputation. Girls will know you're not being sincere when you stand around in one spot and approach any cute girl you see. You can practice in your day to day life by approaching people in your actual usual spots who you actually find to be your type. It's way more sincere, and I strongly feel that…
/r/seduction02/11/21 05:33 PM
4

The stores themselves are private businesses. If they ask you to leave, and you don't, you're trespassing. If you're in there knowing you aren't going to buy shit, it could be loitering. The store owner asked him to leave the store, not the entire mall. He can go to the food court and approach if he wants.
/r/seduction02/11/21 05:31 PM
7

It's cool if you go into a store you actually like, talk to a girl, then either buy something or don't but leave. If you're in the same store approaching multiple girls every weekend, you're gonna catch a reputation. Talk to a girl here and there at multiple stores and talk to a couple at the food court then bounce.
/r/seduction02/11/21 05:28 PM
2

if everything even semi serious gives you a fight or flight in a relationship then goodluck You're assuming she would do the same thing with every other guy. The reality is, there will be guys who she dates for 2 months that feels wayyyy stronger about than you. That will drastically change how she reacts to them asking to be exclusive. It's not an issue for you to stay at your pace. She doesn't want that pace either.
/r/seduction02/11/21 05:22 PM
2

Being exclusive with someone isn't a small issue. Now she knows that's what you want, so it might not work for her. So what is there to talk about? Everyone who's been dumped wishes, "a small discussion," would fix the issue, but the point of being dumped was that they don't want any more discussions at all. You're thinking about what you want and not necessarily what is reasonable for both parties involved. This is why we have an abundance mindset.
/r/seduction02/11/21 05:20 PM
7

"Give me space," is not vague. It means don't contact me and I'll reach out if I feel differently.
/r/seduction02/11/21 05:17 PM
2

What's difficult about it? You asked to be exclusive, and she asked for space. That means, "no I do not want to be exclusive," and so you give her the space she asked for. It's not difficult, though it may be difficult to deal with emotionally.
/r/seduction02/11/21 05:16 PM
1

Either or works, but outgoing and expressive is more sustainable and yields more immediate results. You can be stoic and mysterious, but you have to be patient and bide your time more and you have to better at recognizing when you've caught a girls eye. I'm the stoic type. I had to get really good at reading IOIs. My friends who were outgoing commanded attention and held court in the room, but eventually a girl who meets my standards will make eye contact. I'm not being weird, I'm just not makin…
/r/seduction30/10/21 04:51 PM
3

Unfortunately I can't imagine any girl at the gym that you barely know responding positively to that. But the worst that would probably happen is she says, "thanks but I'm trying to workout." My plan to speak to my gym crush is to deadlift 4pl8s and then ask her to critique my form lol. Try downloading all of the dating apps, then hit the locker room and set the distance to 1 mile. Maybe she pops up and you can match. Good luck dude
/r/seduction29/10/21 09:43 PM
1

Lol it depends. Who is your crush? How do you know her? How well do you know her? Does she know you? Do you talk with each other? Text? How often? If she's a rando then that would be super weird. If you hang out everyday you might be able to get away with it with some fine tuning. There's no one phrase you can say to everyone. It really depends and you didn't provide nearly enough information for anyone here to help you.
/r/seduction29/10/21 09:33 PM
1

All the more reason not to wear that hat lol
/r/seduction27/10/21 11:37 PM
3

Not just height...biceps too
/r/seduction27/10/21 11:37 PM
2

Your opinion has been heard. Have a good day
/r/seduction27/10/21 06:05 PM
11

I don't know what kind of books you've been reading, but sexual sign and provider sign sound like some fake psychology nonsense that belongs in the early 2000s lol. Those are not things commonly agreed on by this community. Whatever niche guru you heard those things from is just telling you their opinion and I wouldn't stake too much on it.
/r/seduction27/10/21 06:02 PM
8

I've had plenty of women say that and then taught them how to lol. Either their previous partners didn't care all that much about her pleasure, she didn't masturbate ever, or she had never tried a vibrator. It's not like a, "aight check this out," kind of situation lol, but over a period of weeks or months we've been able to work together to make it happen. Probably not gonna work for a one or two night stand, but if you're into her it's worth a shot.
/r/seduction27/10/21 05:39 PM
2

he's in a bad place man. She just got out of a serious relationship, decided to block out the negative feelings with a random hookup (as many girls do given how easy it is), then she got all up in her head when you went to the restroom. It has nothing to do with you.
/r/seduction27/10/21 05:10 PM
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Those girls were dancing on you because you're a tall, decent looking, well dressed mid-forties dude so they assume you can be their sugar daddy.... Nobody gets laid more because they're wearing that dumbass hat lol
/r/seduction27/10/21 04:05 PM
5

A little bit. Being emotional doesn't need to be negative though. Happy, excited, grateful, interested, amused, etc. Expressing yourself is a good thing and does turn women on. Being stoic and mysterious has it's appeal, but it can be a detriment if you're in a relationship and she feels like she can't get to know you as deeply as she wants to.
/r/seduction26/10/21 06:04 PM
2

I'm scared that it turns out to be some kind of misunderstanding and that she does not want to go to my place at all. Like it would make her feel awkward if I ask something like that So what? She says no and then...what did you lose exactly? Nothing. She's a stranger making out with you at a bar and it's going to fizzle out and you're never going to see her again. So ask her. If you feel like you might want to see her in a more casual setting while sober and actually have a date, tell her you ne…
/r/seduction26/10/21 05:56 PM
7

Look up Ryan Reynolds at 27. Then look him up at 35 lol. Studies show that women continue to perceive men as more and more attractive as they age. 27 is not the peak by any attempt at an objective measurement.
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:15 AM
6

The problem isn't women, the problem is 25 year old women you.
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:14 AM
2

Then become a high value man. Hate yourself by all means but don't hate other people for treating you how you deserve. You basically said yourself that you suck, so why do you expect people to treat you like you don't suck? Stop worrying about women and sort your life out dude. You don't hate women, you hate yourself. So stop posting on r/seduction because your problems have nothing to do with sex or dating. The sooner you separate these issues the better.
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:13 AM
1

If you stop developing once you get pretty good at performing then yeah, you have to game for your whole life. But that's not and never was the goal. The goal is to become the best version of yourself. If you do that, you don't have to try that hard.
/r/seduction25/10/21 05:04 AM
10

You usually don't. You open, follow up on that open, maybe ask a question or make a comment, and then you ask them on a date. Take the interaction off of the app ASAP. You should ask for the date before you even send 10 messages. I usually ask at about 5 lol. For your particular situation, you're right, she will lose interest. She has a dozen other dudes sending her pickup lines and she doesn't have time to keep up with guys who she can't meet up with. I'd personally just ask for her number, "so…
/r/seduction21/10/21 09:58 PM
0

Wow you either didn't read or comprehend a word I said...You're just not that smart dude. Nevermind lol
/r/seduction21/10/21 07:16 PM
0

If, "hold people accountable," only means physically controlling someone then that only speaks about you and your intellect buddy. This is an advice sub and people come here to read words and reflect on them. "Hold people accountable," means use your words to assign the blame correctly and provide sound advice.
/r/seduction21/10/21 07:08 PM
1

I think you're right, but I also think you're exaggerating. I've only ever seen people here trying to get to the bottom of why exactly someone got kicked out. Very rarely has a top level comment been, "you didn't do anything those girls suck!" I'd love to see which posts you're talking about specifically though.
/r/seduction21/10/21 07:01 PM
0

Nobody said he doesn't like the sub. He said hold people accountable, which we should, and usually do. No need to get defensive.
/r/seduction21/10/21 06:59 PM
1

I think they might make up the majority, but also there's no reason to make fun of them or belittle them for seeking out help.
/r/seduction21/10/21 06:57 PM
1

It's very VERY common. Just nerves. The more he gets to know you and the more comfortable he gets around you, the better the sex will be. If you like him enough to stick around awhile, it will probably get better.
/r/seduction20/10/21 09:56 PM
6

That's not lame. This is your livelihood and you won't get unemployment if you get fired after a complaint of harassment or some other nonsense. Lines and routines will probably get you in trouble. Work is not the place to be bold in your game in my opinion. If you're young, attractive, and outgoing these milfs will probably initiate from time to time though. You take one of those chances and reciprocate. That's the safest way.
/r/seduction20/10/21 08:08 PM
0

You will likely hinder your success if you only get intimate with people you're in a relationship with. Here's why casual intimacy is not just for casual relationships: Real long-term monogamous relationships involve a lot of trust, honesty, closeness, and understanding. If you want to find something real. Something REAL. Something solid, like a fairy tale romance, you need to get to know people before you jump into something serious. Intimacy is included in that. If you have no idea what your p…
/r/seduction19/10/21 06:08 PM
1

Picnic in the park. Show off your home skills by making some fancy tasty sandwiches and pack a couple of white claws. Bring a blanket and a frisbee.
/r/seduction19/10/21 05:51 PM
1

Mostly the first one. Outer game could be defined as capitalizing on the opportunities you identify. However, Inner game is important because it increases the odds that someone will like you in the first place. That means you'll notice more women like you by default because you take care of yourself and pursue hobbies and passions. Inner game is the bait, outer game is your fishing skills and technique. Some fish just ate, some prefer minnows to worms, but none of it matters if you don't know ho…
/r/seduction19/10/21 05:24 PM
6

Neither. This isn't advice, it's criticism. Don't lower you standards. Raise your value instead.
/r/seduction18/10/21 03:56 PM
46

I agree with all of this except... Except you're not tall, were not rich, were not in good social standing, and did not have goo mental health?? Then you don't agree at all, you have a very different situation lol
/r/seduction18/10/21 03:55 PM
1

No thanks. I've been very successful in the apps.
/r/seduction13/10/21 03:58 AM
5

No lol. But I do see you're point and it does apply to many attractive women.
/r/seduction12/10/21 08:47 PM
6

I personally do not. Plenty of people play games, get lonely, get horny, change their mind, etc. If he's offering you sex then all you have to do is say yes. If he's not, then you're shit out of luck. I'm not sure what you're trying to argue about. There's no advice here for your situation. The only advice any guy would get for this situation is to move on because there's lots of people out there who know what they want and getting hung up on someone like this is the opposite of being a stud.
/r/seduction11/10/21 04:25 PM
4

All of those things are things you would do/consider before being rejected. You're past the point of doing those things.
/r/seduction11/10/21 03:57 PM
12

You misunderstand what this sub is about. It's not about convincing anyone to sleep with you. There will be people who don't allign with what you need/want. Part of the game is realizing that there's an abundance of other potential partners out there. The advice a man would get here is to next her and find someone else.
/r/seduction11/10/21 02:15 PM
4

Then do a little friendly nod and then go on about your day. Don't stare too much, but don't do that awkward look away shit either.
/r/seduction07/10/21 08:41 AM
4

Neediness is the mind killer
/r/seduction07/10/21 07:42 AM
1

I don't pay for shit, I dont ask anyone to go steady, and in the end I'm not owed anything by anyone else. That's fine since my happiness doesn't hinge on women's approval. So what is there to really be bitter about?
/r/seduction05/10/21 03:52 PM
1

Why wouldn't you finger her when she asked??
/r/seduction30/09/21 10:52 PM
2

"Kino escalation," would be the term to lookup. Basically you start with small touches like handshakes, hugs, high fives, etc. Then you can play little games like thumb wrestling or palm reading. Then you hold/touch hands. If you reach the point of holding hands, and the conversation/interaction has gone well, she's probably down to kiss you. Maintain good eye contact through this.
/r/seduction27/09/21 06:40 PM
1

You can't make anyone like you. You can make yourself into a fun loving, sociable guy with interesting hobbies and passions. You can dress well and groom well. You can put yourself out there, make eye contact, stand up straight, speak with confidence, and shoot your shot. If you do that, more girls will like you than before. That's what seduction is. But there is nothing you can do to get any one particular girl to like you. She either does or doesn't. May as well shoot your shot and see what ha…
/r/seduction27/09/21 05:49 PM
1

Buddy, could you at least read/watch the materials provided here? The Mystery Method is a classic foundation for outer game. Start by reading or listening to that.
/r/seduction27/09/21 04:37 PM
7

Yeah that's extremely atypical and not really even a good plan lol
/r/seduction25/09/21 12:00 AM
1

Just say whatever the plan is. But that's the trick, have a plan. Say here you're getting drinks. Say when you're getting drinks. Say what you're doing after. Exactly what you said, but be specific. Have a specific place and time. Follow that up with, "send me your number and we can work out the details," if you don't have their numbers yet.
/r/seduction23/09/21 11:54 PM
5

You've already set a bad precedent where she says what she wants and you make it happen. Oof. That might work when your girlfriend asks, but you should be taking the initiative in planning dates with someone this casual. You have the power to plan and facilitate low cost dates. You have the power to suggest a Netflix and chill night. If she's not down for anything that doesn't require your money, then you have your answer.
/r/seduction21/09/21 03:52 PM
3

Well $6/shot is cheap so you might need to slow your roll if you're hurting financially lol. Other than that, just turn it around on them. "Nah you buy me a drink." If not, then just get your own and that's that. There's no secret technique or wisdom for this, but you should know that caring so much about what some strange girls think of you is bad for two reasons; these people's opinions affect you in no way, and these people do not have your best interest at heart. They are very much using you…
/r/seduction17/09/21 06:10 PM
3

Don't force it first off. This video might help.
/r/seduction16/09/21 04:26 PM
4

Lift weights, eat well, whiten your teeth, wash your face, moisturize, wear well fitting and stylish clothes, get a nice haircut, groom yourself and bathe daily, have good eye contact, stand up straight with your shoulders back, speak slowly and loudly with a deep voice, wear some cologne. That's about all you can control. Some things are not in your control, but we all have to play with the cards we're dealt.
/r/seduction16/09/21 04:20 PM
6

the girls come back stating they want to network for their business That means they're a sex worker lol. Alternatively, she's not that interested and is letting you off easy. Last alternative, she's dumber than a sack of rocks. There's no merit to misleading guys on a dating app as a means of networking, so it's one of those three options. Either way, nexting her quickly is your best bet. Actually there's a fourth option; she's a scammer. Take your pick!
/r/seduction16/09/21 04:09 PM
1

You: Tell me you want my dick inside you Her: I want your dick inside me daddy That's consent lol. Verbally confirming isn't super duper necessary, there's lots of ways to show enthusiasm without words. But you can use your words and it definitely doesn't need to be clinical. This is more for anyone who may be reading, not just you by the way!
/r/seduction15/09/21 05:02 PM
159

You can do whatever you want. Asking for consent is never wrong. But, you'll probably turn a lot of girls off and it will probably make you less successful with women in the long run. We communicate with more than just our words. If you get good at kino escalation and body language then you don't need to verbally ask. Knowing the right time to kiss is 100x more attractive than asking. I can't say anything about your specific situation though. All girls are different, you know this girl better th…
/r/seduction14/09/21 10:30 PM
34

Good bot
/r/seduction14/09/21 05:16 PM
1

Attention, and she's probably not all that loyal to her bf... I mean, I wouldn't consider my girl to be loyal if she was flirting with dudes and giving out her number lol
/r/seduction13/09/21 10:01 PM
1

A lot of it works, but it's all free online at this point. You're in this sub for example. All the information you need is here. You don't have to spend a dime. PUA is an old school concept by now though. You can think of PUA techniques as mostly outer game, and modern day dating advice as mostly inner game. With that change in vocab, you should be able to find what you need here. I suggest starting with this.
/r/seduction13/09/21 09:26 PM
2

Literally just wear a condom dude. If it breaks, go get plan b
/r/seduction03/09/21 10:26 PM
5

Be your best self. Look into, "Inner Game," for an idea on how to become your best self. Inner Game is making yourself someone worth dating and placing yourself in a position for opportunities to present themselves. Outer Game is how you capitalize on those opportunities. Now as for this: The thing is, if one doesn't do any of that naturally, they are faking aspects of their personality You're a human being. Your personality and characteristics are not set in stone. You're dynamic. If you get a …
/r/seduction01/09/21 11:55 PM
1

Yes? This isn't a relationship sub. The two subs serve different purposes. Don't go there to get advice on meeting women, but it's fine if you need some advice on some marital issues.
/r/seduction25/08/21 07:41 PM
11

Disney, rom coms, and pop music have convinced the population that they will stumble onto love. In reality, most people do end up settling down, so they give you advice that they believe will lead you to that same outcome. This sub is not about settling though. On top of that, woman are used to not having to do much to get male attention. They don't understand the effort that needs to go into meeting someone as a guy. The idea of talking to strangers makes them feel weird on paper, but as long a…
/r/seduction25/08/21 07:37 PM
1

100%. There's absolutely coaches for things like running and biking, and professionals to help people walk when they have some situation that makes it difficult for them. That guy is a close minded fool who has no business offering advice.
/r/seduction25/08/21 03:31 PM
3

Ignore people like this guys.
/r/seduction22/08/21 11:00 PM
16

I don't understand ehat you're saying at all. You've never given someone a massage? I've literally bever had anyone turn down a massage lol. "It'll just happen naturally," is the worst dating advice. No it won't. people are here asking specifically because it doesn't. If it did, they wouldn't need advice. It happens naturally when you know what you're doing. People who don't know what they're doing are asking for a play by play and physical escalation is intro level stuff. You don't just fucking…
/r/seduction22/08/21 05:38 PM
3

Do you have any idea how many women actually have had terrible experiences? Your first point is incel shit dude. You'll miss out on a lot of great women.
/r/seduction26/07/21 01:55 AM
2

by developing hobbies and constantly socializing you develop charming qualities and social awareness naturally Yes, that is what game is....
/r/seduction21/07/21 05:39 PM
2

Game is not bs because what you described is not game. Yeah, there's pre-requisites. Yeah, the girl needs to be attracted to you and it helps to have stuff in common. But if you're a greasy neckbeard who can't look people in the eyes and approaches woman with, "m'lady," then you aren't getting any dates. Correcting those issues is game.
/r/seduction21/07/21 05:38 PM
5

Nope, you missed the whole point. You know how your friends and family say, "just be yourself," when giving dating advice? Game is about, "be your best self." No, you're not changing to impress anyone. No, you're not supposed to change back. You're changing to be a better version of yourself. You're changing so that you can look in the mirror and think, "damn, who wouldn't want to date that guy?" If you're tricking anyone, you're doing it wrong. And please please pleeeease immerse yourself in th…
/r/seduction21/07/21 05:36 PM
3

Don't elicit shit tests. That's just toxic and bad for everyone involved. As for passing them, first you need to understand them. They aren't actual tests that women intentionally throw your way. Some women will do that, avoid them. That's also toxic. A shit test is just a situation or conversation that arises that puts you on the spot and how you respond could make or break the relationship. The most general way to pass is to maintain your frame and roll with it. For example, you're at a baseba…
/r/seduction16/07/21 05:42 PM
3

You're right, plenty of girls will sleep with you for a free trip Europe. If you have money to blow, you can definitely get laid. But you'll have a very hard time finding a partner in crime. Someone you trust, and someone who respects you. It's up to you what you want, we're all looking for different things here and most of these things are not wrong.
/r/seduction15/07/21 11:40 PM
6

Try not to approach girls from behind. That, and don't block their way. Two ways to ensure nobody can say you were being weird. They should be able to see you approaching. You should be able to look them in the eyes and smile/convey your intentions as you walk up. They should know a couple of seconds ahead of time that you're about to talk to them. This should also solve the issue you asked about.
/r/seduction29/06/21 07:27 PM
3

Then you're not enslaving your wife and it was a truly silly question. Don't assume the worst intent from someone's argument. It's not necessary and it's almost certainly not what they meant.
/r/MensRights28/06/21 11:27 PM
2

A very good idea for sure.
/r/MensRights28/06/21 11:24 PM
14

I mean, are you? Did you buy a car and cocaine with the child support and leave your child hungry and in raggedy clothes? You tell us. If you spent enough for them to have clothes, food, shelter, education, healthcare; and you're not demanding more money that is not necessary, then it's all good.
/r/MensRights28/06/21 10:27 PM
1

Seduction advice has been pretty standard dude. Nobody is gonna tell you that being needy is a good thing, that eye contact is a bad thing, or that you shouldn't approach someone you're interestes in for example. If you're looking for cheat codes, they don't exist. Read/listen to the big names here in the sub, then stop seeking out advice and put it into practixe. Adjust as you discoverwhat works for you and ehat doesn't. Too much time on the internet reading comments from goobers like me, and n…
/r/seduction20/06/21 01:25 AM
8

Obviously, I don't know you, so please don't feel offended if I read you wrong. You don't know anyone here. Clearly you've never ever ever read the foundations of this sub. Pick up tactics were left back in the 2000s. The current model starts with: to gain actual confidence by dealing with whatever underlying problems you may have Don't believe me? Here is the very first post on the sidebar after the rules. Notice the first bolded concept. Don't judge a book by it's cover.
/r/seduction17/06/21 07:29 PM
3

He wins everytime someone replies to him like this.
/r/seduction14/06/21 01:58 AM
20

But also women don't have any "higher" standards than men. I think the Okcupid study kind of showed that they do. The top 80% of women (online at least) are hooking up with the top 20% of guys. The bottom 80% of guys could probably benefit from adding a couple pounds of muscle. Or losing a couple pounds of fat more likely.
/r/seduction12/06/21 02:13 AM
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Why do you care and why are you trying to start on a sub meant to help people? No one cares about how tough you are or how not scared you are of covid. Do you and let OP do him. Don't be that guy
/r/seduction12/06/21 02:11 AM
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Isolation is the word you're looking for. Quarantine means something different.
/r/seduction12/06/21 02:09 AM
2

Yes it's that rare and no it doesn't add anything. If you can't get a girl naked in the first place then your massive wang means nothing lol
/r/seduction03/06/21 02:01 PM
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Nobody will be mean or hateful to anyone of any group, but the advice is generally intended for a straight male population. Anyone can ask questions, the more experienced posters who know what they're talking about probably won't have any experience intrans dating though, so maybe not the best place for advice.
/r/seduction01/05/21 08:55 PM
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No no no, be accountable for your words. Him: He’s probably one of the most well known cases of a false accusation, who has been Blacklisted because of it so supporting him would likely help move the cause forward You: /shrug... so? That's you being dismissive about the issues, not Depp. Bottom line.
/r/MensRights12/04/21 11:22 PM
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Him: He’s probably one of the most well known cases of a false accusation, who has been Blacklisted because of it so supporting him would likely help move the cause forward You: /shrug... so? You're flip flopping. You either care about the sub's issues or you don't. If you don't, it's weird that you're spending time trying to rile people up online. If you do, "/shrug...so," should leave you feeling some cognitive dissonance. So which is it?
/r/MensRights12/04/21 11:08 PM
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Who cares? You have a gf. She's allowed to be into you and even drunkenly lightly flirt. It's human nature. She's probably not going to drop her pen and bend over in front of you while sober, and you're not gonna ask her out, right? Crushes come and go. Move on with your life, focus on your relationships.
/r/seduction07/04/21 06:57 PM
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If you're her friend it's already too late. If you like someone, ask them out. Not after hanging out with them platonically 8 times. You meet them, you talk while employing decent outer game, you suggest some date idea, and you get her number. The first time you hang out should either be a date or the situation you meet them, in which case the second time you meet them would be a date.
/r/seduction07/04/21 05:55 PM
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Literally make eye contact with everyone you pass by. Hold until they look away, you pass them, or you acknowledge each other. A quick nod for the same sex, and a smile for the opposite sex, does the trick to break the tension without being the one to look away if it's taking awhile. If you find yourself in the ghetto, maybe just keep to yourself. But you can do this if you're hanging out at the mall, the bars, or on some college campus. It helps a lot with killing the whole, "oh no I gotta look…
/r/seduction06/04/21 05:59 PM
5

money is better spent on a therapist and a gym membership 100%. There's plenty of free or low cost, tried and true seduction material around. There's no need for these Youtube randos right now.
/r/seduction01/04/21 03:42 PM
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Turns out it's a shill promoting their Youtube channel. Decent advice but there's no reason for anyone here to need to click a video link for it. Everyone and their dog is trying to be a dating coach nowadays and most of them are not very good and have pretty much no credentials.
/r/seduction01/04/21 03:23 PM
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Yep, you certainly don't need to know or do any of this stuff to get married and have kids. Anybody can settle down with the first person who shows interest in them. There is indeed someone for everyone. And they have all occasionally seen someone across the bar and thought, "damn I wish I had something clever to say to start a conversation with her." Their wives did not make them feel that way at first sight. This sub is about getting the girl that makes you kick yourself in the ass for not tal…
/r/seduction25/03/21 10:12 PM
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Sorry I just saw this. Here's some stuff to check out: How to Hold Conversation Like a Man What Women Want The Book of Pook After you check these out, stop seeking out books and manuals. At a certain point, reading or watching more of the same stuff just isn't going to help you reach your goals.
/r/seduction25/03/21 09:39 PM
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Nah dude, just keep it light and casual and know how to take no for an answer and you'll be fine.
/r/seduction25/03/21 05:58 AM
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Sorry buddy but everyone else in the world is able to find at least some small amount of success and happiness in this society, so you can too. If you aren't, it is definitely on you. Blaming outside factors is just making things worse. Therapy isn't going to solve all of your problems, it's just supposed to help you recognize them and talk them through with someone. The the end of the day, only you can change yourself.
/r/seduction21/03/21 06:12 PM
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That's just a survey of physical attractiveness on paper. The game is changed when you're standing in front of her being cocky and funny and smart and showing her a good time. That's what game is for.
/r/seduction19/03/21 12:21 AM
4

First dates start wherever you want. If you don't want to drink then have a picnic in the park.
/r/seduction15/03/21 03:43 PM
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The game has definitely come a long way since then, but you wouldn't know it from browsing this sub. It's weird, it's like all the people giving advice here have never actually delved into the material. We used to say, "stop reading and start approaching!" Now I think these guys need to do a little reading first lol
/r/seduction11/03/21 08:36 PM
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Oh man I can't believe the community is being built from the ground up again :( This is literally just half a page worth of Mystery Method lol
/r/seduction11/03/21 06:52 PM
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Read the Mystery Method. It's outdated and the guy is a clown, but it's the foundation of outer game. I would recommend RSD stuff but they scrubbed most of their content so it's not straightforward to find. all of the tips the other guy recommend for you are covered and explained in depth in this book. It's worth a read for anyone getting into the game, as long as you know that inner game comes first. This works best for night game btw.
/r/seduction11/03/21 06:48 PM
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This is a sub for field tested, tried and true dating strategy. You don't get to disagree, you get to be wrong. Friends first is about the least effective way to enter a romantic relationship, and girls get pissed off when their "friend" suddenly starts trying to be more than friends. There's no dichotomy between friends and only wanting vagina. That should go without saying. I'm the fool for even acknowledging that statement but you desperately need an intervention. It's one thing to fall for y…
/r/seduction10/03/21 03:30 PM
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This is old news. Even the mystery method goes Attract->Comfort->Close. You'd better not skip step 1 though. If you're really thinking you just had an epiphany you're in for a bad time. Tons of guys want to get to know about her interests and hobbies. That's basically being social 101. If it's all you get from this sub then you failed. Read the sidebar for God's sake...
/r/seduction10/03/21 12:56 PM
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Absolutely not and please don't give advice here.
/r/seduction10/03/21 12:53 PM
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You have no business offering advice here if that's what you have to say. You need to spend some time reading the sidebar.
/r/seduction04/03/21 07:25 PM
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All techniques are just ways to try and replicate things that naturals do naturally. There are people who through nurture and nature are naturally good with social interactions, and there's people who are not. The people who are not observed the people who are and took the things that work and called them techniques. That's all "pick up" is, it's self improvement. It's just doing things that happen when people are hitting it off and putting yourself out there until you can internalize how to be …
/r/seduction03/03/21 05:42 PM
1

This sub definitely isn't what it used to be, that's true. Have you tried finding a wingman near you?
/r/seduction03/03/21 04:51 PM
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You don't ever need to spend that kind of money to live a better life and have success with women. James Marshall is a respectable dude and his content is helpful, no doubt. But you can achieve your goals for free. Making a post here in this sub about your goals might help you get some advice and resources.
/r/seduction03/03/21 04:28 PM
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James Marshall is one of the most respected names here, and you're calling yourself an incel. Your logic has no legs to stand on dude. I'm assuming you just come here to talk shit and put people down. I wouldn't pay $500 for any sort of pickup/seduction bootcamp or course, but everyone should ignore anything this dude ^ is saying.
/r/seduction03/03/21 04:26 PM
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All techniques are just ways to try and replicate things that naturals do naturally. There are people who through nurture and nature are naturally good with social interactions, and there's people who are not. The people who are not observed the people who are and took the things that work and called them techniques. That's all pick up/outer game is. Negs are dumb but push pull and teasing are just things that happen when people are hitting it off. Whether or not you use techniques or canned lin…
/r/seduction03/03/21 04:22 PM
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But you're placing blame entirely on women There's no blame. He's just describing a phenomenon, it has nothing to do with "fault" or "blame."
/r/seduction01/03/21 07:45 PM
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The world is different. Your dad didn't have a smartphone that let him meet girls across the country and your mom didn't have an app with dozens of guys per day vying for her affection. You don't have instincts for the modern world. There's not all that much in terms of theory anyways. It could all be summed up in just a few posts. At some point it's up to you to stop reading stuff online and go take action.
/r/seduction01/03/21 07:44 PM
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There's lots of people in it for the money. I'm surrounded by doctors in my personal and professional circle. Whether or not it's the best way to get rich has nothing to do with anything. Go tell them that, not me lol
/r/seduction25/02/21 07:38 PM
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Academia and law are nothing like medicine. You will make money as a doctor and I promise you there are plenty of people in it for the money. You probably won't make doctor, or even nurse, money in law or academia lol
/r/seduction25/02/21 04:06 PM
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So you're just browsing this sub to talk shit then. Sorry I wasted both of our time.
/r/seduction20/02/21 01:13 AM
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The same applies. It's seduction 101, it's called kino escalation. Maybe you're just in this sub to talk shit, but if you actually came here to learn something then you should listen more. I'm not just making shit up, I'm just restating one of the basic principles of successful dates. In general, physical touch is the number one thing that will get you 2nd or 3rd dates with the girls you really like. Good first kisses don't just happen, you build up to them, slowly and gradually.
/r/seduction19/02/21 09:43 PM
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I’m more likely to judge you or become disinterested if you intentionally wait hours to reply. The point is that guys should have shit going on in their lives so they don't have to do this intentionally. Those guys tend to be more desirable. Also, you usually wouldn't know whether it's intentional or not so it's a moot point. If you can tell that someone is intentionally doing this, a lot of stuff is going wrong lol
/r/seduction18/02/21 11:41 PM
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But if you legit don't have shit going on in your life to the point that you can text people back right away 24/7, it's no longer about perception. You actually are low value, and that's the point. You don't have to care, but you also may or may not succeed with her lol. We're supposed to give advice that helps people succeed here.
/r/seduction18/02/21 11:38 PM
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It doesn’t really work for me either tho lol so maybe there is a point Well no shit dude. Why even visit a sub like this if you just want to do things your way and fail? I mean wtf is the point of having a phone on you all the time I have a job where I don't have time to text. I can't be texting while I go for runs or hikes or swims or to boxing or whatever. Sometimes I'm cooking or cleaning. Sometimes I'm having conversations and don't want to be rude and text right in their face. And sometimes…
/r/seduction18/02/21 11:35 PM
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If you're waiting a couple of dates before escalating enough to sit next to a girl, you're not doing it right. That's not really for you but for anyone who might accidentally take your advice.
/r/seduction18/02/21 03:45 PM
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Absolutely not lol
/r/seduction18/02/21 01:35 PM
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You're still supposed to look at them if you sit next to her lol Edit: This sub is seriously going to shit :(
/r/seduction18/02/21 01:34 PM
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I'm Hispanic and I can confirm that my parents made me wear PRL shirts to nice events lol
/r/seduction17/02/21 11:28 PM
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The book itself makes this very point. It's not an instruction manual.
/r/seduction05/02/21 09:10 PM
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Stigma is real, people are irrational and will make assumptions about you, and destroying your social life is not good for you for a variety of reasons. It's straight forward man. Learn it all and then keep that shit to yourself unless your with your wingman lol
/r/seduction26/01/21 07:53 PM
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Alright man, I guess you're a lost cause. I hope whatever you're going through gets better.
/r/seduction16/12/20 04:09 AM
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Yep, and all it takes is living an actual fun, productive, and social life Are you really so dense that you can't understand that this isn't easy for everyone to achieve? Maybe people here are weirdos but they're trying to be better and have success with romance. At the end of the day you're just here spitting on people below you.
/r/seduction15/12/20 03:37 PM
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I definitely don't have low standards. I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is which is why I sincerely invited you. It sounds like your having a personal crisis and whatever you're trying to achieve here probably isn't helping. Step 1 here, and everyone agrees, is to get your shit together. Whatever issues you might be having with women won't be resolved until you get better.
/r/seduction15/12/20 03:35 PM
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Hit me up and come visit, I'll take you to a college campus and we'll take a tally of how many fat sweaty dudes are dating smoking hot babes. You can buy me a beer afterwards and we can talk about why they get girls but the sad bois on here cant.
/r/seduction13/12/20 07:59 PM
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There would be no point to a sub like this if that were true. You're walking a tightrope friend. You're one bad step away from being an incel. I guarantee that you read this advice, scoff, and then never make any changes to your lifen while blaming the world for your own failures. It's time to take a good long look at yourself and then get your shit together. You really want to go down that lonely path without giving it your all to change first?
/r/seduction13/12/20 05:22 PM
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Despite the slight shilling this advice is sound. Think about the chads you know who always get laid. I bet they're a bit obnoxious, and that's good. Don't be meek, don't be quiet. Talk louder and clearer and people will get the impression that you're a confident dude who likes to have fun and who people listen to. It's one of those quick and easy tips that can make a huge difference. Even Mark Manson's "Models" has a a few paragraphs on this. Do it
/r/seduction13/12/20 02:19 AM
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You have to understand that people come to this sub for advice on how to literally seduce anyone so it's super important to hammer the point in or people will take it literally, fail, and then become incels lol. Some guys are walking a tight rope here so we have to be super real with our words. Awesome post by the way
/r/seduction11/12/20 11:07 PM
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Almost nobody into game has been successful their entire lives dude. Almost everyone found this community because they were in the same circumstances as you and they wanted to change. You're here because you want to change, so congratulations you've taken step number one. I mean that sincerely too. It can, and has, been done before. I should know.
/r/seduction05/12/20 11:29 PM
1

Then that particular point doesn't apply to you. C'mon man
/r/seduction05/12/20 11:25 PM
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So you want to know how to seduce a chubby, not that hot, anti-science, opposite political leaning, coworker? How about don't dude. Have, or acquire, some self respect, that's step 1 in seduction. Self respect is attractive, and self respecting men don't try to bang women that they aren't attracted to. Her being a coworker makes it all even worse. Don't dip your pen in company ink. In 2020, your coworker either gives you very clear indicators of interest, or you don't try to seduce her. Simple a…
/r/seduction03/12/20 05:05 PM
2

That's harrassment brother
/r/seduction30/11/20 04:13 AM
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Move on. Seduction is not about getting any girl you want, nobody can do that. It's about gaining opportunities and capitalizing on them, with women in general. What you're experiencing right now is called oneitis, and it's a hypothetical disorder in which you sacrifice your attractiveness to the rest of the world by being hung up on a girl that will never want to be with you. So seriously. Move on asap. Coincidentally, dating other women moght actually make this girl desire you more.
/r/seduction29/11/20 02:04 AM
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Look at these newbies thinking they know shit about Mystery. Played off the whole 'i'm a famous magician and there's TV crews filming be because i'm so famous' act. Ugh how do you think he got famous in the first place???? Lol Look dude, Mystery Method is old and outdated advice. The reason it worked for Mystery is because it reflects who he is, it's his personal method. The problem with it is that people tried so hard to copy it that they lost everything unique about themselves. It all works, b…
/r/seduction29/11/20 01:10 AM
1

Lol what? You play anime on a first date with a girl? That's a bold strategy Cotton
/r/seduction29/11/20 01:02 AM
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you aren't in the best shape or health
/r/seduction05/11/20 01:35 PM
1

Watch this before you go out
/r/seduction24/10/20 01:59 AM
1

Well do you have friends?
/r/seduction10/10/20 02:24 AM
5

Yeah man that's usually the point of asking for advice.
/r/seduction10/10/20 02:24 AM
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Don't say anything and don't see her this weekend. Hit the gym, hit up some old buddies to grab a beer, get some new clothes and a haircut, and throw yourself into your career and hobbies. Time to hunker down and grow as a single man.
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:49 PM
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Because a bunch of autists put on fuzzy hats and started speed approaching women for practice. It used to be sincere, now they know that you probably do it to any attractive girl you see. The more natural and sincere you can make your approach, the better.
/r/seduction09/10/20 07:46 PM
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This is Reddit bro, not a fucking thesis defense lol. If you're curious look it up and if not then don't cry about it. It's not a big deal.
/r/seduction24/08/20 12:10 AM
1

You don't slowly cut someone off. If you truly don't want to hurt her, you'll be honest and tell her it's over. A slow ghosting is in no way less painful than honesty.
/r/seduction03/08/20 10:31 PM
1

I'm not sure what you mean but I've never had a girl make out with me and then not be into me anymore on the same night lol. I've never had to pull away from a kiss to get someone to be into me. That sounds like some mind game for fakers, not something Don Juan would do. I think you're overthinking things man.
/r/seduction27/07/20 07:19 PM
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It seems you're new here and your making a common mistake, you're getting ahead of yourself. Imagine showing up to med school on day one and asking the professor, "so how do I repair a heart valve?" Lol, the answer is slow down buddy and learn how to treat the sniffles first. Here is a post I made a while back that you might find useful as an introduction to this sub.
/r/seduction27/07/20 01:36 AM
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All of this advice is legit but I would say it's beginner level. I find myself not needing to make these excuses anymore. The trick is to escalate during the date. If you escalate enough, she'll be ready to go back to your place by the end of the date. If you've been making out with your hands all over each other, it's time. Literally just say, "want to hit another bar or head back to my place?" It's low pressure, you gave her any easy out if she needs it, but she doesn't need it. She's just as …
/r/seduction27/07/20 01:30 AM
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You're not teasing just for the sake of teasing. You're not a school yard bully. You tease her when an opportunity arises while you get to know her. If she orders tequila at the bar: I knew you had a wild side (; I she says she works out: Alright show me your biceps, flex. Squeezes biceps Damn girl! Let's thumb wrestle: She wins No fair, you have big thumbs! Teasing requires context. It has to make sense and be fun for everyone. Don't just walk up to a girl and say, "haha you're short," lol. If …
/r/seduction10/07/20 05:29 PM
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Yes.
/r/seduction27/06/20 11:08 PM
1

You can travel to a bigger city every once in a while. Other than that, your best bet is to hit up the mall or club or whatever and just people watch. You might spot someone cold approaching. Just go say hi if you spot someone who is clearly practicing game.
/r/seduction19/06/20 02:23 AM
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I see so many AFCs trying to cold approach only to open with these lines lol. It's cringey as fuck. Justsay hi. Anything but, "are you single." Solid advice for any newbies around thinking about approaching.
/r/seduction19/06/20 02:20 AM
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Great advice here, with 1, 2, and 3 being the biggest factors in my opinion. Those are the difference between being a huge creep or just a friendly social guy who wanted to talk to a pretty girl.
/r/seduction19/06/20 02:15 AM
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Do you know what "incel" means?
/r/seduction19/06/20 02:14 AM
1

Huh? Are you sure you get laid? Stop fucking around with time wasting weirdos dude
/r/seduction15/06/20 06:32 AM
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No he isn't. Having a brief casual conversation with someone in public is not creepy. If a girl has to or wants to leave, they leave and you say have a good day. There's nothing creepy about that. If you can't handle some slight social interaction while in the park and/or if saying "cant talk right now" is a major inconvenience for you, then that's something to bring up in therapy.
/r/seduction13/06/20 07:47 PM
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Your beliefs are flawed. Women are people. Plenty of couples are happily together for very long periods of time. Don't pass off your friends' mistakes as the problem of women. You would not stay in a relationship if you felt disrespected or hurt, and neither will women. That's only natural. If you want something lasting, then become someone worth keeping around.
/r/seduction09/06/20 06:05 AM
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Man we need a serious janitor clean up here. I'm so tired of people having the nerve to ask questions like this instead of spending half an hour reading all of the valuable information that is already organized for them. Might as well go to r/fitness and ask, "how me get strong?"
/r/seduction03/06/20 07:16 PM
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My post is a starting point. You obviously aren't going to change your life with a Reddit post you can read on the toilet. Read it again. Spend 10 minutes on a busy college campus and you'll see two or three dozen disproportionately attractive couples dude. Might be a little tricky now that it's summer and with the Rona, but literally just go spend 10 minutes in any highly populated spot. The beach, downtown, the mall, whatever. People watch and you will see. Or come hang out with me and I'll sh…
/r/seduction28/05/20 07:25 PM
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This post I made was for people like you. Everybody knows being attractive helps. That's not a hot take. It's not insightful. It's boring and lame. Might as well be telling us that the sky is blue and what goes up must come down. Ugly people still bang hot chicks. If you want to know how and why, read my post and learn something. If not, that's cool too.
/r/seduction28/05/20 01:47 AM
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Don't spend any money on PUA shit. Join this: Wingmen London and Wingmen Toronto Introduce yourself, make some friends, get a group together, and go cold approach. You have wingmen to help and keep you responsible all for free. You're not going to get anything from a bootcamp that you can't get by reading The Game, Models, and then cold approaching. A bootcamp is just a crash course seminar followed by cold approaching with the boys. No reason to drop $500 on something like that. Good luck dude
/r/seduction22/05/20 01:14 AM
1

What's your nearest big city?
/r/seduction21/05/20 04:51 PM
2

Audible does a 30 day free trial where you get one free audiobook for signing up. You can cancel immediately after and not pay a dime. They have Models as an audiobook. I recommend doing that.
/r/seduction21/05/20 04:50 PM
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I am that honest dude and I'm letting you know that all of the information has been written by a lot of other honest dudes and it's available to you for free. It's organized to the right in the sidebar of the subreddit where it says, "New Here?" I'm saying that I wouldn't expect anyone to type the entirety of the subject into a single comment. But, there are also books, like Mark Manson's "Models", that cover it pretty well. To sum up the process of getting laid though: become someone that peopl…
/r/seduction21/05/20 03:22 AM
1

5 Simple Guides To Texting Women by aswjacob I like this one, it's short but sweet.
/r/seduction21/05/20 03:01 AM
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That's perfectly fine, me too. You do need to learn how to text basic logistics though. Typically, if I have a girl's number, it's already been established that we will be hanging out. It shouldn't be a secret, you aren't trying to flirt with them with your texts. Flirt in person, establish a date, get the number, then text them to establish the logistics.
/r/seduction21/05/20 02:50 AM
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Are you asking how you get laid? There's entire books on how to get laid so I wouldn't expect that to get answered in it's entirety in a Reddit reply. But you can definitely find the information in the sidebar ---> I'm not quite sure if that is what you are asking though.
/r/seduction21/05/20 02:47 AM
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I wouldn't say this to anyone I follow, not in the US at least. I'm not sure that there is a good follow up to this message, and I'm not sure that the women are replying for the right reasons. I would very much like to hear from even a single dude here who has actually gotten laid by sliding into someone's DMs. Anybody have a story for me?
/r/seduction21/05/20 12:34 AM
2

Well there you go lol
/r/seduction21/05/20 12:20 AM
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There's an abundance of beautiful women in this world, so don't lose your shit over one girl. Don't waste your life obsessing over one girl. Accept rejection with grace and dignity, then move on. There's always another girl if things don't work out with the current girl, so there's no pressure. That's an abundance mindset.
/r/seduction20/05/20 09:58 PM
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I'll definitely contribute some more content here in the future. Thanks dude, and good luck
/r/seduction20/05/20 09:54 PM
2

Good bot
/r/seduction20/05/20 08:57 PM
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I actually rarely cold approach. I started in college and I started by focusing on my looks, health, friends, hobbies, and career. I got a haircut, got some clothes that fit well, and some cool shoes. Then I hit the gym and put on 35 lbs of muscle (over 10 years lol). I left my dorm room door open so that people could say hi whenever they wanted, and literally offered anyone who came by coffee and candy. I joined a boxing gym, and made some friends. I hung out with my bros, and shook people's ha…
/r/seduction20/05/20 08:54 PM
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Two sides of the same coin bro. Inner Game then Outer Game. You need both. If you're a sweaty, greasy, blob who plays video games all day you're going to have a harder time getting laid than a cheery gamer who does his hair and shows up dressed as Kratos to Comic Con, showing off a 6 pack. These two guys may have the same interests in life, they both chug Mountain Dew and Cheetos and they both spend 20 hours a week playing League. But only one of them has taken action to maintain his health and …
/r/seduction20/05/20 08:33 PM
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Hispanic. To be fair, I only swipe right on blue eyed blondes, just my type. I might get more matches if I swiped right indiscriminately but I don't have any interest in settling. I'm also not in the biggest city either, plus I'm in my upper 20s now trying to date girls in their lower 20s. There's always things working against you, but like I said, I've seen some fat greasy dudes without money dating beautiful women lol. I assume they have something to offer besides their looks. I strongly recom…
/r/seduction20/05/20 08:23 PM
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Perhaps, but it is worth the effort to try. You don't want to be caught faking it 2 years into a relationship, shit will go sideways.
/r/seduction20/05/20 08:16 PM
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Sounds like you need to read a manual on outer game dude. This is super outdated and don't take it to heart, but The Mystery Method is still a solid foundation for understanding the basic structure of a, "pickup." There's 3 phases: attract, comfort, seduce. Attract: This is the approach and initial conversation. You fucked this up when you said this, "Hey I think you're really pretty, would you care to go on a date with me sometime?" There's nothing attractive about those things. There's nothing…
/r/seduction20/05/20 08:08 PM
1

1 or 2 a month unless I use Super Likes. If I use Super Likes I have about a 10-15% match rate. Dating apps aren't a good metric though. The 4 or 5 guys in your local area who are legit models with chiseled chins and abs are getting 90% of the matches online, and even most of those are just validation seekers and low value girls. Looks matter less in face to face interaction than they do online.
/r/seduction20/05/20 07:50 PM
2

that means people on here want to fuck chicks and want to know how to. People here have a variety of goals from more one night stands to a satisfying life full of romance and excitement. What you are describing is faking it. Yes, you can perform your way into bed with women. That's all good and well for short term relationships and one night stands. For anything other than that, you will be outed. She will learn that you are not who you claim to be, and that you have been performing. My way gets…
/r/seduction20/05/20 07:38 PM
3

I am less than 8/10. Maybe I'm a 7/10 on a very good day. I'm a broke, brown, graduate student with a big nose. I had 2 friends in high school, had my first girlfriend for 3 weeks until she dumped me at 17. Got laid once by the time I was 20, seemed like a fluke. Then I changed. I changed because I wanted too. I've seen people in worse shape than me, sure. But I've also seen people in worse shape than me sleeping with cheerleaders and models. The content here is exactly for people who are not na…
/r/seduction20/05/20 06:53 PM
3

but you need to know the basics of game first that’s what this sub is about right. Incorrect my dude. Inner Game comes first, then Outer Game. That's the big misunderstanding here. Girls won't make you happy. They won't make your life fulfilling. If you don't have a happy and fulfilling life, if you don't have self worth, why would a girl want to be involved with you? Once you sort that stuff out, the game becomes much easier. The issues guys have that persist are usually due to their impatience…
/r/seduction20/05/20 06:48 PM
2

The game has earned me some amazing LTRs that turned into something deeper and more fulfilling than anything I can find in this community. I had to take a step back and learn to be more vulnerable and to not play little games like waiting to text or refusing to do favors like buying her a drink lol. Of course I can buy her a drink, she's my gf! That's all I meant. Most of that stuff I said is hyperbole. Tons of stuff from seduction applies to LTRs. Eye contact, vulnerability, frame, kino, etc. B…
/r/seduction20/05/20 06:18 PM
5

But is DMing girls on instagram really creepy? Nah creepy was just hyperbole. Really it's just a waste of time. How many girls have you hooked up with after DMing them? Exactly. Now if you have an Instagram that portrays you as a rich, high value, travelling rockstar then that's a different story.
/r/seduction20/05/20 06:09 PM
1

Relationships are wonderful, don't rush into them. They should be few and fleeting, that's what makes them special. If you've got a good relationship going, don't lose it. And stop reading the shit here if you have a girlfriend. This stuff is good for getting a girl, not for keeping a girl
/r/seduction19/05/20 11:29 PM
4

It's a healthy mentality. Being completely invested in people that you barely know is an unhealthy mentality. Maybe you don't understand what we mean by, "numbers game."
/r/seduction19/05/20 10:18 PM
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that happened in other accidental or organic ways That's all great but there's no guarantees that this will happen for you and imagine how many totally organic moments happen in your life that you are never able to capitalize on. How many girls that you have encountered naturally in your life would you have hit it off with if you had said something different or if you had met them under different circumstances? That's the point of this sub. Life is full of opportunities like this and being good …
/r/seduction19/05/20 10:17 PM
1

There's also a reason the first piece of advice you receive here is to read Models. How is it this places fault that you bought into the fake pua marketing? Did you forget to read the sidebar? I'm sure you did like most people who come here. The information is here. The advice you're giving is not new. It's all possted here. It's your fault that you didn't read it and take it to heart before you tried the crazy pua tips and tricks.
/r/seduction19/05/20 06:31 PM
0

Post-coronavirus is not coming anytime soon. The US would like to act like it is but it is not. Shit will be closing down again shortly into the Fall semsester if not sooner. The virus isn't going anywhere, that's not how viruses work. Unless of course we come up with a better quarantine policy like Sweden is trying. We will see. With that in mind, I say the more you act like a pre-coronavirus PUA the better. It will make you stand out and give women a sense of adventure and freedom.
/r/seduction15/05/20 04:01 PM
0

You are the blind bro.
/r/seduction15/05/20 03:48 PM
1

I have no idea what you were responding to my dude
/r/seduction07/05/20 07:14 AM
2

You and most of the guys here missed the point and the context. This is a guide to getting a date from dating apps and texting. It's in the context of the virus. It's basically saying get to the date because you'll accomplish more in person than through a screen. In that regard it is sound advice.
/r/seduction06/05/20 10:25 PM
3

If someone is a serial killer, texting them won't reveal that.
/r/seduction06/05/20 10:25 PM
2

You and most of the guys here missed the point and the context. This is a guide to getting a date from dating apps and texting. It's in the context of the virus. It's basically saying get to the date because you'll accomplish more in person than through a screen. In that regard it is sound advice.
/r/seduction06/05/20 10:23 PM
1

You and most of the guys here missed the point and the context. This is a guide to getting a date from dating apps and texting. It's in the context of the virus. It's basically saying get to the date because you'll accomplish more in person than through a screen. In that regard it is sound advice.
/r/seduction06/05/20 10:23 PM
4

You're the one trying to have sex without your mom knowing my dude
/r/seduction03/05/20 06:40 PM
2

I've paid my rent since I graudated at 21. You really can't comprehend how a legal adult could have a roof over thier head?
/r/seduction03/05/20 05:48 PM
2

Girls are not just sitting there waiting for guys to LEAD the conversation... Yes they are. OP just has a poor definition of lead. Telling people what to do doesn't necessarily equate to leading, especially in dating. That's a solid point, but make no mistake, the burden of work is on the guy.
/r/seduction27/04/20 10:43 PM
14

You're spot on. COVID basically makes online dating useless because even if you're a "High" on their scale, you can't progress things easily so they're just accumulating more and more dudes to waste time with.
/r/seduction27/04/20 10:41 PM
2

That's not how any of this works...
/r/seduction16/04/20 09:21 PM
0

Now you're just saying shit.
/r/seduction30/03/20 12:00 AM
1

I'm not putting effort into autistic questions. Analogies aren't meant to be taken as literal 1:1 comparisons.
/r/seduction29/03/20 11:42 PM
1

Personal trainers don't cost $1000+ dollars bro. Most people wouldn't need a personal trainer if they read 3 books and watched 5 videos on lifting weights. The Game, Models, Book of Pook. Look up "daygame infield" and "nighgame infield." Then get a wingman and spend $100 on a haircut, some new shoes, and some good drinks. Now approach. Congrats, you saved yourself a grand and got all of he same info and experience.
/r/seduction29/03/20 07:45 PM
2

What about in class? Same thing applies. If you're staring at a girl endlessly and not approaching it's creepy. Since it would be difficult to approach in class, don't stare. Making eye contact is fine. You lock eyes, smile, then focus on your lecture.
/r/seduction14/03/20 10:25 PM
2

Don't look at her shoes dude, obviously by breaking eye contact she's going to move on and look away. Don't look down, that's super passive. Just look elsewhere, at someone else, your friends, the sky, the architecture around you; anything but down.
/r/seduction14/03/20 10:18 PM
38

Depends on the guy. But at 22, you're just barely a real adult dude. You have nothing to worry about.
/r/seduction14/03/20 03:54 AM
3

Eye contact with who? If it's a random girl, you'd better approach asap or you look like a weirdo. Stranger passing by? Just keep eye contact and smile or nod until you pass each other, shouldn't take too long. A date? Maintain eye contact as much as possible, looking occasionally at her lips and maybe her body once you've kinod a bit. The context matters a lot.
/r/seduction14/03/20 03:51 AM
1

Yeah duh, that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Men and women play different roles on the courtship process.
/r/seduction06/03/20 05:27 PM
21

Because attraction isn't sufficient. Most guys are oblivious to who is and isn't attracted to them. How many girls walk by on a daily basis that would be attracted to you if you looked them in the eye and talked for a few minutes, but you never had the balls to say hi? How many guys waited too long to go for the first kiss? The first fuck? How many times do you think a girl has been attracted to you, but then after 5 minutes of conversation they figured that your personality isn't that great? Th…
/r/seduction06/03/20 05:24 PM
2

The pill doesn't stop STDs bro. The worst part is you don't wake up with a burning dick. You're usually asymptomatic and don't find out until years later when your reproductive organs are fucked. More than 50% of young adults will have had an STD by the time they turn 25. If you aren't going to wrap up, get tested 2 or 3 times a year. The good news is HIV doesn't actually spread that well from vaginal sex, but it spreads pretty well through anal so be careful.
/r/seduction05/03/20 02:04 AM
2

I disagree. Probably because you don't know the difference between facts and opinions. A single person who has used game to gain a happy long term relationship proves the whole thing wrong. I'll be that persin. So there you go, it's wrong. If you're gaming in a way that is not sustainable with who you are, then you're doing it wrong.
/r/seduction04/03/20 03:15 AM
1

If you get rejected then you didn't pull
/r/seduction29/02/20 07:04 PM
2

I'm in Tucson homie. Want to go out and game? Send me a pm
/r/seduction28/02/20 06:01 AM
1

There's nothing conscious about a shit test. Anyone who iw consciously creating shit tests is not someone you want to be around.
/r/seduction28/02/20 05:59 AM
0

behavioral therapist throwing around anecdotal evidence I have trouble believing you homie. Surely a behavioral therapist can devise a better plan than this
/r/seduction26/02/20 06:10 AM
2

It's a terrible trainer and you should feel bad if you think going to a strip club is improving your game.
/r/seduction25/02/20 06:32 AM
1

This right here. Guys are always asking how to pass shit tests. If you need to identify and then respond to a shit test, you aren't doing it right.
/r/seduction21/02/20 12:02 AM
12

It's all semantics. If that's what people consider beta vs alpha then that's what it means.
/r/seduction20/02/20 11:59 PM
13

So you're choosing to stay in this place that you hate. It's not just going to change on its own dude.
/r/seduction18/02/20 04:55 PM
4

Look dude, you're 15. This sub is not for you. The stuff posted here is not shit you're supposed to try in school or with your high school gf. Being 15 is supposed to be direct, or out of nowhere, or awkward. It's part of growing and learning. Having a gf at 15 puts you miles ahead of many people here. Experience your relationship, learn from it, learn from her. Try things, fail, grow, all that good stuff. Then come back and read all of the material here before you go to college.
/r/seduction01/02/20 05:25 PM
13

It's some big time bullshit dude. Really gives us a bad rep and compares puas to some sexual assaulters. It's mostly nonsense but I guess that's what happens when a bunch of newbies and autists go out and try to kino for the first time. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00095v6
/r/seduction24/01/20 09:15 PM
1

You can use medication for that. Now would be the time to start, before you lose your hair. When it does inevitably start to bald, just shave your head and embrace it. No weird comb over shit
/r/seduction24/01/20 12:00 AM
2

Go to therapy dude. Honestly it's awesome, and if nothing else, it gives you a chance to talk these things out with another human being. That alone is practice communicating and connecting with others.
/r/seduction23/01/20 11:49 PM
5

Come hang out with me on campus for a day. We'll chill out and count how many ugly dudes walk by with smoking hot chicks and you'll change your mind
/r/seduction18/01/20 05:28 AM
3

Maybe don't talk about things that you aren't actually that familiar with. If you're 35+ and feel like you don't have that youthful energy anymore, you might very well have low t. That's more and more common these days. TRT clinics can safely help middle aged and over men restore their testosterone levels to a healthy baseline and this can have profound physical and mental benefits. Even if some 20 year olds are thinking of doing testosterone for aesthetics, nobody just injects test and lets the…
/r/seduction18/01/20 05:22 AM
1

If you don't want advice, this sub might not be for you.
/r/seduction01/01/20 05:44 PM
1

Huh? How about raise yourself to her level instead of being an insecure needy boi who brings people down?
/r/seduction01/01/20 08:15 AM
2

I invited my cute friend to come with my friends If you like someone, ask them on a date. If you ask them to hangout with you and your friends, then they are your friend and they always will be.
/r/seduction22/12/19 06:46 PM
1

You mean you live with your parents lol. I live at home, I live at my home. You're probably not going to lose your virginity by taking girls our to the woods, alley, or bathroom stall. If you must go to the woods, at least making a camping trip out of it. The reality is you have shit logistics for a one night stand. So, you either need to steer things to her place, or date her long enough for you to reasonably take her to your place. There's no reliable secret place where people go to hook up th…
/r/seduction30/11/19 05:49 PM
2

She probably has no idea that she's close to you. You're stuck in your head trying to analyze the actions of strangers when the reality is that a strange occurence haooened by chance. That's likely explanation number one. Likely explanation number two is that she just wants to dance and have fun, not talk.
/r/seduction30/11/19 05:44 PM
1

Are you Spanish?
/r/seduction30/11/19 05:42 PM
7

People who get laid feel differently than you do. Nobody is expecting you to do all of that shit. I promise.
/r/seduction26/11/19 06:28 AM
2

Well I'd say 60% of coaches are 6/10 at best so assuming yhey aren't all con artists, which evidence says they are not, then your argument falls apart early on. Looks certainly make it easier, and looks are mandatory for apps like Tinder and Hinge. Still, out of the 2 most sought after guys I personally know; one is 5'8 and the other is bald. They aren't bad looking, and they work out and take care of themselves, but you don't have to win the genetic lottery to be successful with women. If you d…
/r/seduction17/11/19 01:38 AM
3

You tell me something that's not a generalization. How many upvotes does that comment you're talking about have? Link me to it. You're taking the minority of shitheads and using them to generalize the people here and that's pretty disingenuous. I told you what the community is like, if you refuse to believe that because there are shitty people in the internet, that's on you.
/r/seduction14/11/19 03:22 PM
2

I did and I liked it but it's dense. I'm a researcher and read lots of papers in life; scientific literature interests me and this book is pretty close to scientific literature. It presents a notion/hypothesis and then tries to back it up with psychology research. The guy cites his sources and describes studies pretty thoroughly. It's not a self help book by any means, it's a science book. I would say it's kind of like The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins. It's entertaining and insightful though,…
/r/seduction14/11/19 05:40 AM
8

Mark Manson recommended a book called Stumbling on Happiness. It's basically an entertaining review of the psychological literature to demonstrate that humans are piss poor at predicting what will make them happy. It's why doctors spend their whole lives pursuing medicine only to be suicidal a few years into the job. It's why people get rich and feel lonely and have kids and then resent their family because they never got to pursue their careers. And it's why women think they don't want anyone t…
/r/seduction14/11/19 04:59 AM
3

Because random people on the street have nothing in common with you Random people on the street don't like football? Random people on the street don't listen to indie music? Random people on the street don't like longboarding, camping, surfing, travelling, etc.? Of course they do! Some don't, but some do. Sure the likelihood of any single person being perfect for you is small, but who's more likely to find an ideal partner; the guy who's had conversations with 3-4 women this year at his co ed le…
/r/seduction14/11/19 04:53 AM
12

You're the only one speaking like an incel lol. I don't doubt some of them came here after their sub got shut down, but the people active here are not them. It's no different than searching, "first date tips," on Google before a date you're excited for. The guys here are just normal guys trying to be more social and have more success in their dating lives. Some people have that success naturally, right? You don't call them an incel for being popular and charming do you? So then how are people wh…
/r/seduction14/11/19 04:41 AM
4

You want people to like you for your personality, but you don't walk around with a list of intrinsic characteristics for people to judge. You have the wrong idea. When people approach, they want to know those personality traits you're so proud of. That's the whole point. How should someone know that if they didn't talk to you? That's the point of cold approaching. You will never EVER get to know that girl if you watch her walk away forever, but you MIGHT if you just walk up and say hi. Nobody ha…
/r/seduction14/11/19 04:34 AM
2

You're right, what a shitty use of the law.
/r/seduction14/11/19 03:15 AM
1

I'm trying to look up info on the guy but all I can find is that women felt threatened when he went up to chat with.them? I'm usually skeptical of these claims but I don't see anywhere that he assaulted anyone. Maybe you're thinking of the weirdo that walked up and touched that girl by the train tracks because he was trying to make friends?
/r/seduction14/11/19 03:15 AM
0

you'd be calling her a bitch right now. This is creepy as fuck. No I wouldn't. Nobody active here would do that. Seduction is the opposite of that.
/r/seduction14/11/19 02:39 AM
1

It's like there's people who follow this sub just to come in and shoot people down without understanding the concept of seduction at all.
/r/seduction13/11/19 08:44 PM
1

Sounds like shit. OP didn't cause any harm to anyone. Another example of a shitty justice system.
/r/seduction13/11/19 08:43 PM
1

There's nothing wrong with being social and saying hi to a stranger in a safe, public and casual environment. Anybody is free to walk away, nobody is being held against their will or followed. If you want the world to cater to you then try staying indoors.
/r/seduction13/11/19 08:41 PM
5

Entitled to what? Nobody demanded or asked for anything? OP said hi to a stranger and she was free to like him or continue on her way. There's no entitlement in being social. Maybe you're entitled since you seem to want the world to cater to your wishes.
/r/seduction13/11/19 08:37 PM
38

It's 2019. Texting ia a big deal. You don't have to constantly text, but you gotta build a little rapport before setting up the date logistics. You'll have less flakes if you take the time to do that.
/r/seduction07/11/19 03:36 PM
3

The majority of guys aren't subscribe to this sub. The majority of guys are AFCs.
/r/seduction04/11/19 08:17 PM
2

Obviously context matters. Nobody has the exact lines for you to use to get laid.
/r/seduction02/11/19 01:08 AM
2

If you lined up a bunch of images and had 10000 guys rank them you're saying there'd be no patterns? There's obviously some objective beauty traits. Smooth skin, healthy weight, facial symmetry, etc.
/r/seduction30/10/19 12:26 AM
2

You don't hang out and have fun with some of the girls you bang? Sounds pretty boring to be honest, basically masturbation.
/r/seduction30/10/19 12:24 AM
3

Who cares?
/r/seduction30/10/19 12:19 AM
2

So don't talk about something that happens or else you're a misogynist. That's not how the world works. Issues are nuanced and there's plenty of conversations to be had.
/r/seduction24/10/19 07:37 PM
1

g coffee “ together, because I feel like he’s establishing a position of power, and if I ask him first I lose Huh? That's some silly stuff, it's not real. If you like someone, ask them out. It's risky for a.guy to.ask out coworkers. If you like him, ask him if he wants to get a drinkthis weekend.
/r/seduction24/10/19 03:14 PM
10

Who's disrespecting women? You're losing your shit because you inferred some meaning that wasn't there.
/r/seduction24/10/19 03:11 PM
1

I hope you can take it to heart and give that audiobook a listen.
/r/seduction22/10/19 03:33 AM
2

Just Google it dude. It was only a single confirmed incident. Hundreds of people have seen him in action and by most accounts he's the real deal. But...he did get busted hiring an actress. I don't know why he did it, but texts confirm it and he was fired for it.
/r/seduction22/10/19 03:30 AM
4

You're just whining about semantics. If the game means going out and talking to women then there's nothing manipulative about that. You didn't create the art of seduction, it absolutely stems from the old PUA version of game. Outer game is important. If you were an expert o seduction, you wouldn't have beem looking for advice on the internet. You're being pretentious and it's painfully obvious that you're pretending to be someone you are not.
/r/seduction21/10/19 05:10 AM
1

His recent sexual misconduct situation tells me that he's just as awkward as any other AFC.
/r/seduction19/10/19 09:55 PM
1

Do you think Neil DeGrase Tyson gets laid? Do you want to be a scholar or a Don Juan? You can be both, but not at the same exact time. That girl you think is hot doesn't give a fuck about your philosophies.
/r/seduction19/10/19 02:11 AM
3

This guy got busted hiring an actress for his videos.
/r/seduction18/10/19 11:08 PM
2

Why would anyone think they're fake? I literally see guys like this approaching around my campus and then they post the videos of successes. Might as well say daygame itself is fake
/r/seduction18/10/19 11:08 PM
2

Eye contact. More than you think
/r/seduction18/10/19 11:03 PM
1

If you're copying what other people say then yeah, it'll probably be cringey. Game isn't really about what you say. It's more.about how you say it and the fact that you approached to.say it in the first place.
/r/seduction18/10/19 02:47 PM
4

You're sick dude. Women do not treat any other guy here so badly that they lose their shit and kill people. If you're starting to sympathize with an incel murderer, than the problem isn't women, the problem is you. You're here sympathizing with a killer. How do you think people perceive you? This attitude, this mindset, I guarantee that it permeates your skin. People can see the darkness that you're carrying with you. It shows on your face, in the way you walk, the way you talk. You're blaming w…
/r/seduction18/10/19 03:55 AM
2

Have you tried not being creepy? If a girl is threatening to call the cops, you've dine something abnormal. I guarantee nobody here recommended you do whatever you did.
/r/seduction18/10/19 03:45 AM
1

If it's just momentary eye contact than it means nothing. People make eye contact all of the time.
/r/seduction15/10/19 04:54 PM
2

If you do what this guy did, you're a creep. Read the actual story, see what he did, and take that as a lesson on what not to do. Learn from his mistakes. That is not how you cold approach women.
/r/seduction13/10/19 01:34 AM
2

There's lots of people here with plenty of experience. Posting weird sex tapes online is not credentials of success. Anyone can get laid, that's not seduction. Seduction is about becoming an attractive man with a fulfilling social and romantic life. Getting laid is just a side effect of that.
/r/seduction13/10/19 01:32 AM
1

That's probably his alt account.
/r/seduction13/10/19 01:29 AM
1

They think it's weird that you're staring at them and they're trying to let you and the world know that they're taken. Eye contact is for one on one communication. If you're staring at a girl at the bar and you aren't approaching, you're doing it wrong. She might be making eye contact with you, but that's not a certain indicator of interest. They could very well be thinking, "why does that weirdo keep looking at me." Either approach or move on. If you're hung up on these girls with boyfriends, t…
/r/seduction13/10/19 01:25 AM
1

If you wait for someone on the train tracks while staring into the bushes, swing around and touch them, then walk away, you're a huge weirdo. Yes you're going to freak girls the fuck out if you do that. If she says, "stop," then you fuckin leave.and don't put your hands on her. You can learn to cold approach without being a creep. If you put your hands on people, you'd better know.what you're fucking doing.
/r/seduction11/10/19 03:12 PM
3

He didn't talk to her her which is the whole problem. He walked up, didn't say a word, and touched her. On two occasions. That's weird and creepy.
/r/seduction10/10/19 07:12 PM
5

Guys, read the fucking article. He did not know her. He cold approached her, didn't say a single word. All he did was wait for her to pass by and then walk up and start touching her arm and waist. He did that twice without saying a word. What else is she to think except that he's a creep touching her? Don't be a creep, and read the fucking article.
/r/seduction10/10/19 07:11 PM
3

There is no how. There is no what to say. You just do it. "Hi I'm smorrow," and then you talk. About anything. The weather, the local event, the fact that you think she's beautiful. It doesn't matter. She knows if she wants to sleep with you the moment you say hi. All you're doing afterwards is gauging her interest and seeing if she's interesting enough to ask on a date. Talk bullshit for 5 minutes then ask if she wants to grab coffee. After about 100 approaches, you'll know what to say. Nobody …
/r/seduction03/10/19 06:12 PM
1

So you're making a mistake that guys typically make in that you have large expectations of instant rewards without an idea of the work that goes into it. Everyone wants to cuddle up on a Saturday night by the fire with a bottle of wine, their cute puppy, and their dream girl/guy. But that takes time and effort. You don't just convey, "hey I like you," and then it's snuggle time. That's why people think you need to chill. You're going from 0 to 100 in one jump, when in reality, you're supposed to…
/r/seduction30/09/19 07:04 AM
0

Stop reading about the incel murderer Elliot Rodger. Stop posting about him here. He could have benefited from some inner game work but he has nothing to do with this community. He is wrong in every way. Yes, we live in a society that expects men to make the first move, despite what anyone says or how that makes anyone feel. You don't have to like it, but to succeed, you do have to embrace it. That should be fine; being bold and going after what you want with determination and confidence are per…
/r/seduction30/09/19 06:14 AM
2

It's better to be rejected than to live with regret. Always. Solid advice dude.
/r/seduction30/09/19 05:59 AM
1

Why wouldn't you do both? College/university costs thousands of dollars. Obviously make friends and have fun, but don't flunk out either. There's nothing attractive about failing to achieve your goals and squandering your opportunities to grow intellectually.
/r/seduction30/09/19 04:31 AM
1

Upperclassman (21/22 year olds) in college will stop showing interest in you at 25+. There's a graduation barrier that makes you seem older than you actually are to them. Once they graduate it's game on though. Still, you'll never have access to as many young, pretty girls as you will in college. Don't squander the opportunity. If you're planning on going to grad school, med school, law school, etc.; you'll be the prime age and presumably maturity to score the upperclassman undergrads.
/r/seduction29/09/19 08:33 PM
2

Just another type of oneitis.
/r/seduction13/09/19 09:16 PM
3

You don't escape the friendzone, you aboud it in the first place. Stop being friends first. If you want to go on a date with someone, ask them. Not after they yhink they made a friend, before. Be more upfront. Be more direct. When you get a girls nunber, after some small talk, you as her on a date. Stoo beating around the bush.
/r/seduction11/09/19 03:53 PM
3

Move on and fuck other girls. Hit the gym and build some muscle. Get some new clothes and a new haircut. Take uo a hobby. Gett good grades/a promotion at work. In 3 or 4 months if you still want her back, you'll be at your peak attractiveness. Right now there's nothing attractive about trying to get your ex back. I'm confused though, if you already have a date with her, why do you need to play games like posting shit on Insta etc.? Unless it's not a date and you're just hanging out with your ex.…
/r/seduction20/08/19 05:57 PM
2

It's weird dude. Unless she's giving you strong IOIs, it's weird.
/r/seduction20/08/19 05:45 PM
2

Nobody is manipulating women. Seduction isn't about the women, it's about the man. Change yourself and the results follow.
/r/seduction17/08/19 12:31 AM
24

You don't have to think you can get any girl you want, because nobody can. Rather, you want to be so satisfied with life and with yourself that not getting any particular girl is no big deal. Just trying to help keep you grounded homie. You're doing good, but don't lose yourself in the process.
/r/seduction17/08/19 12:30 AM
1

Eye contact is for women that you're talking to or women that you are going to approach. If you make eye contact a few times and then don't approach, you're creepy.
/r/seduction01/08/19 03:11 PM
11

wat
/r/seduction27/07/19 06:20 AM
17

What's so yikes about denouncing this rapist and saying that the advice today is much better? That's all I said, stop making it out to be something more.
/r/seduction03/07/19 03:15 AM
2

Yes without a doubt. Not like I can just cold approach anyone and expect to fuck them, but there's always an opportunity around the corner, and any single girl I meet is potentially someone I might sleep with. Ay its core, seduction is just learning how to interact with women and give off an attractive vibe. Once you have that, opportunities come naturally.
/r/seduction02/07/19 09:43 PM
28

Yeah RSD are the remnants of the old, cringey, ego filled PUAs. The community has come a long way since then. If you're trying to emulate Tyler Durden at this point, you're way behind the times. I wouldn't be surprised to know that he's done a lot of sketchy things.
/r/seduction02/07/19 09:41 PM
5

A first kiss should not be a surprise. You escalate physically in a gradual way until it becomes obvious that a kiss is next. Basically if you can hild hands and snuggle up to each other, and kiss is an obvious next step. So work your way up. Don't just kiss people, learn to be intimate with people.
/r/seduction30/06/19 09:15 PM
1

You should fucking study and get good grades on your exam homie. Nobody is giving you eyes. They're wondering why you keep looking at them.
/r/seduction30/06/19 05:02 AM
3

Nothing means anything. A confident man looks people in the eye and connects with them during conversation. That's the bottom line. Stop worrying about what things mean and start behaving like a man. There's nothing confusing about looking women in the eyes. Just do it. It doesn't mean you're attractive, and it doesn't mean she finds you attractive. All it means is you aren't a scared little boy, and that's basically step number one.
/r/seduction29/06/19 09:55 PM
1

You're not too picky. Never settle.
/r/seduction25/06/19 09:47 PM
1

What's up with these shills today? You can get RSD Blueprint on ThePirateBay for free y'all. None of these programs are going to make you any better with women than the ones that are typically available.
/r/seduction25/06/19 09:43 PM
2

Read Models by Mark Manson, then build your own. It should be to hard to write a list like this: Week 1: Week 2: Week 3 Etc.
/r/seduction25/06/19 09:40 PM
3

You move the fuck on. If she gets her shit sorted out and ends up being single, ask her out. If not, there's so many other women in the world, it's crazy. What you don't do is act needy and keep waiting for something to happen. She will use you as an emotional tampon and backup plan, and backup plans are not attractive. Moving on and showing that you're a man of value who can't wait around forever is infinitely more attractive than showing her that your only option for romance is a taken girl at…
/r/seduction24/06/19 09:12 AM
1

Sounds about right. Don't be weird or obviously playing some games. Just respond to what she says, joke around, take it from there. Like you.said, don't drag it on.
/r/seduction23/06/19 07:14 PM
4

Nah ignore that dude. You can ask girls on dates. There's nothing wrong with that. She said she'd let you know, so wait few days. If she doesn't text you by then, just ask her to do something. Be specific about the date, time, and location. If she turns you down again, Id just say, "It seems like you're pretty busy so let me know if you ever have time and want to meet up." Then don't initiate ever again and move on. She'll either reach out, or she won't. Both are okay.
/r/seduction23/06/19 06:35 PM
1

I promise when you're 18, you won't think about this girl for a second. You don't need game in high school. Just focus on being social, and sure, talk to other girls. Just don't be needy or have any expectations.
/r/seduction17/06/19 11:40 PM
3

Wanting success does not 100% equate to wanting someone else vagina You keep building this strawman, and you're doing an okay job at beating it up. But back in reality, nobody has expressed that this is what they value.
/r/seduction14/06/19 06:15 PM
2

Models by Mark Manson is a complete guide to natural game and it's the go to recommendation here from people who know what they're doing. I highly recommended you check it out before anything else. Not to shill, but the audiobook is on Audible, and you get a free audiobook for signing up. For a an early history lesson on Seduction, check out The Game by Neil Strauss. It's not a manual or anything, it's just for perspective. The jist is that there's outer game and inner game. Outer game is essent…
/r/seduction14/06/19 06:05 PM
2

Cocky/funny is a simplistic and tried and true example of how to conduct yourself. I suggest looking that up. If you can live your life in a way that naturally makes you feel confident, that would be the best for long term succes. Do things you love, do well at work and school, hit the gym and put on some muscle, get some fashionable clothes and a nice haircut. The confidence boost you get from looking your best and taking care of your shit is a sustainable way to keep your demeanor attractive. …
/r/seduction14/06/19 05:55 PM
4

Don't go out of your way ever. Let it come to you. That's the opposite of what people who get what they want do lol.
/r/seduction14/06/19 02:32 AM
3

I don't think endlessly pursuing vagina is a good enough dream and passion. Nobody said that. I still approach women Then your title and post do not convey what you mean to say.
/r/seduction14/06/19 02:25 AM
2

He's been successful with two books. There's not much more to say.
/r/seduction14/06/19 02:08 AM
2

You don't have an STI if you've had sex one time with a condom. Get tested once per year. Wait 3 weeks, then get tested. Then get tested in a year after that. You only.need to get tested more than that if you're doing some risky shit.
/r/seduction14/06/19 02:05 AM
3

It's not.bad to be nice. It's bad when nice is your defining feature and you expect to get laid in return. Why would anyone want to be with you just because you're nice. Be nice, but also be more..
/r/seduction14/06/19 02:03 AM
17

Let it look for you. That's the complete opposite of what people who chase their dreams and passions do. Approaching women is just a medium for meeting people. There's no reason you have to "pump.and dump" just because you approached someone. What you've done is.created a false dichotomy between a happy life and approaching women. You can do both.
/r/seduction14/06/19 01:53 AM
1

Just don't. It's work. Women aren't there to fuck you, they're there to make money and pursue a career. If you start getting serious and blatant IOIs, then you just play The Game like normal. There's nothing special about it except the higher likelihood of you pissing someone off and being labeled a creep.
/r/seduction11/06/19 05:38 PM
1

The Game by Neil Strauss is not a pick up manual. That's your first mistake.
/r/seduction10/06/19 11:29 PM
2

Well yeah considering you're trying to seduce them.
/r/seduction10/06/19 11:02 PM
1

Generally when you like someone you ask them on a date. You're not approaching anyone because you've already approached. That interaction you had means you know each other, there's no approach to do anymore. Now you ask her out to do something specific and fun, and she either says yes or no. Although, hitting on girls at work is a dangerous game.
/r/seduction10/06/19 11:01 PM
3

Yes, if you add girls you don't know on social media and start flirting with them, it's creepy. Unless they give you their number or their snap, stop adding them. You're going to catch a bad reputation that way.
/r/seduction10/06/19 10:45 PM
1

Good, that's step number one. People try to skip straight to getting laid part without taking care of themselves first. You're on the right track now my dude. Good luck
/r/seduction10/06/19 08:57 PM
2

Wear a condom. They sell condoms with numbing agent. But it will make your dick numb and I wouldn't want to let her blow me aftet I've had numbing agent on my dick. A regular condom should help though. Assuming you are wearing a condom already, as you should be, it's a mental thing. You're trying to perform instead of just enjoying the experience. I do have some tips though: Foreplay. Lots of foreplay. Finger her and eat her out before ever putting your dick in. Then, when you feel like you are …
/r/seduction09/06/19 01:57 AM
1

I've just been curious why it feels like she's been the one gradually doing the escalating, just slowly. That's because everyone enjoys flirting and validation. Sometimes flirting and seeking validation goes too far and people make mistakes they regret. She could slip up, but I don't feel that a non needy guy with an interesting lifestyle and the ability to seduce women would want to be someone's mistake or next branch. Anyways, most likely, the second you act on this,.it will all go to shit and…
/r/seduction09/06/19 01:48 AM
10

Girls online sharing their opinions are just like guys online sharing their opinions; there's just a higher proportion of antisocial behavior and attitudes in the online community. Think about a club girl who goes out every Thursday-Sunday. You think she sits around very often participating in criticizing men on Reddit? Nah dude. Sime people are introverted. Some people don't really want to talk to a stranger, it makes them anxious and they'd rather just not. But that doesn't mean there's anythi…
/r/seduction09/06/19 01:44 AM
1

This girl used you for a ride to her dealers place bro. You just got out of rehab, don't you know how manipulative people can be for a fix? Yeah she probably hooks up with her dealer. Most people aren't addicts and have no pressing reason to manipulate people like this. Plenty of women have their own cars. Why would even wonder if all women are like this? It should go without saying that they are not.
/r/seduction06/06/19 06:35 PM
5

That's very wrong. There's absolutely no reason you can't cold approach someone, get their number, go on date, and get into a relationship. Pick up is the process of successfully meeting, charming, and progressing a relationship. Whether that is a long term one or a hook up is between the man and woman involved. You have a fundamental misunderstanding about this community, so it's weird that you're generalizing and pretending like you know anything about it. Plenty of men come here because they …
/r/seduction03/06/19 10:08 PM
19

Look dude, women expect to be approached in a bar. Even if they aren't feeling it, they don't just go tell the bouncer. If girls are asking bouncers to handle you, you're being weird. Please write out a detailed play by play of one of your approaches so we can actually help you. Somewhere along the line, you're either giving off a bad vibe or overstaying you welcome. We need to figure out exactly where that is and stop it
/r/seduction03/06/19 06:59 PM
1

Just write your own and follow it.
/r/seduction03/06/19 02:31 PM
14

You good dude?
/r/seduction30/05/19 06:17 PM
-1

Why do you want to hangout with a girl who has a boyfriend? Fuckin ballers don't fuck girls with boyfriends because they know there's always another single hitl around the corner. You'd have to be pretty needy and desperate to pursue a taken girl.
/r/seduction29/05/19 03:24 AM
1

Yeah that's called a metaphor.
/r/seduction24/05/19 03:58 PM
2

Nobody said you have to enjoy one night stands. You literally cannot grasp that people enjoy having more sex?? No wonder people don't get laid. There's a real lack of basic human understanding in here and it's disturbing.
/r/seduction24/05/19 03:55 PM
3

Anyone here could have told you that sex wouldn't solve your problems.
/r/seduction24/05/19 03:32 PM
7

You're severely confused if you think the dancers at a strip club are interested.in anything but your money. The only way you're going to fuck a stripper for free is if you coincidentally meet one and hit jt off in your day to day life, outside of the club.
/r/seduction22/05/19 04:28 PM
2

I'm down homie. Send me a message with a little about yourself and we can figure something out.
/r/seduction21/05/19 06:38 PM
1

Uh no I didn't. You're very confused right now.
/r/seduction20/05/19 09:19 PM
1

I'm not asking for advice lol
/r/seduction20/05/19 04:20 PM
1

The odds of a.25 year old woman dating you is about .0005%. I wouldn't bother if I were you. As for asking people out, you text them, make small talk then straight up ask them out. Propose a specific time, day, and location when asking. Also, please not that people promoting their agendas are always overly nice. Just like retail and servers.
/r/seduction20/05/19 06:55 AM
14

It's a joke/roleplay dude. It's Tinder. The joke is they haven't known each other long enough to be seriously asking that. That's the point, it's a perfectly fine opener.
/r/seduction19/05/19 08:53 PM
1

It's always a date. I actually suggest you stop inviting them to your room and instead do date stuff like a drink or coffee somewhere. Not that you can't do a date at home, but the general rule is that if she comes to your place it's on, but doing that as a first meet up can blur some lines because it's so early and you haven't actually built up aby intimacy. But it's always a date until she says otherwise. She's not dumb. She knows she's hanging out 1 on 1 and whether or not she wants it to be …
/r/seduction18/05/19 06:52 PM
1

Yes, speaking loudly to someone is much ruder than taking your hand and illustrating shutting her mouth. /s Get real dude.
/r/seduction18/05/19 02:03 AM
4

Everyone is telling niceguys to be the opposite of what they are. That doesn't stop them. And if anything this post is an example of the false dichotomy between niceguy and jerk. This is, "fine I'm done being nice since women like jerks." That's what this post embodies. If you lack social skills and do this, you're a niceguy. If you have social skills and do this, you're a narcissist. Both lead to toxic interactions. People who have success in dating and in relationships don't "train" their part…
/r/seduction17/05/19 11:21 PM
0

It's most likely not. You will be disappointed.
/r/seduction17/05/19 11:18 PM
23

Pretty toxic stuff tbh. I'm sure the newbies will be eating this shit up too, and they'll be featured in r/niceguys soon enough.
/r/seduction17/05/19 09:50 PM
1

You're exactly right. That does not qualify as being her friend first. She knew your intentions the whole time. Though I would have also asked sooner. Waiting that long still makes you seem like a nervous guy. It's only awkward if you make it awkward. If you can handle rejection with grace and dignity, then there's no problems.
/r/seduction16/05/19 06:33 PM
1

First, shy women will appreciate you more, just because they're shy doesn't mean they don't have the same wants and desires on the inside that are common in women. Even if someone prefers to take things slower, they still have intentions of getting to know you as a potential partner. Once they see you as a friend, it's too late. Girls don't date their friends under most circumstances. If they say they want to be friends first, they aren't that serious about something more. Second, you're creatin…
/r/seduction16/05/19 05:38 AM
0

Stop going to dinner for first dates dude. Jesus.
/r/seduction15/05/19 03:05 PM
8

You don't. Once they're your friends it's basically too late. Stop asking out your friends. If you like a woman after meeting her and getting her number, your next hangout should be a date. Stop asking out your friends. Friendship is not a step on the path towards dating. It's a fork in the road and you took the wrong path.
/r/seduction15/05/19 02:59 PM
2

So just have sex and if you stumble onto a girl who is worth keeping around then do so. Or better yet, stop using the fact that you're a doctor to get woman. You can approach someone in a coffee shop and rely on your personality without ever mentioning that you're a doctor. Bottom line is, lots of guys like to blame their love life issues on the womem. It's never about yhe women, it's about you
/r/seduction12/05/19 03:11 AM
-1

I just got laid off of Tinder and have a girl begging to come suck my dick from Hinge though. Why in the world would I ever delete the app because girks get lots of lame messages from creeps, weirdos, and ugly dudes?
/r/seduction12/05/19 02:56 AM
20

Obviously eye contact alone isn't going to get you laid.
/r/seduction09/05/19 04:54 AM
7

Women are people. We play the game because it works to get your foot in the door and your dick in the...well you get the point. However, if you want a long term relationship with this person you're going to have to suspend your habit of not believing her when she tells you what she needs. At a certain point, trust and honesty become more important than pua tips and tactics. Frame and calibration are things that are always useful, but if you want to be with her then start learning what it means t…
/r/seduction01/05/19 08:40 PM
3

Their faces are blurred homie
/r/seduction30/04/19 09:02 PM
4

How are you determining that they aren't hot? Their faces are mostly blurred and most of them seem to be thin/healthy BMI. At the very least none are the thirsty fat girls we know are easy to get. I'm not sure how you cane to these conclusions.
/r/seduction30/04/19 02:20 PM
0

Being a ripped sickcunt would do it, but I tend to think the most fire girls go for guys who radiate manliness. Girls may go crazy over models, actors and pop stars who are skinny as shit with skinny boi abs, but the regular non-famous skinny boi doesn't get the same attention. I say go big or go home. When people say Chad stole their crush, they usually aren't bigger than Chad lol. Being ripped gets you girls, being big and lean gets you babes. At least that's what I've noticed
/r/seduction28/04/19 07:34 PM
1

Yes, pursue this. Ask her to do something sooner rather than later. Mayeb send a few snaps, then the next time you see her in person, invite her to do something casual and fun. She maybe into you, she's probably down to get to know you a bit, but you'll never know for sure unless you polarize (ask her out).
/r/seduction28/04/19 07:18 PM
1

Mac is big as fuck though lol, that's what most casual bodybuilders are trying to achieve. He's just outside the realm of this casual conversation because he's both big and cut. Obviously achieving both is ideal.
/r/seduction28/04/19 07:08 PM
4

Can't see cut abs under your daily outfit. Big arms and pecs give the impression of fitness while clothed. You don't even have to be that big because most people after college in the workforce are sad, balding, out of shape AFCs. Be the young or young looking in shape guy in your circle and you're golden as far as aesthetics go. I think the best way to show that off is bug muscles, but being cut is nice for tank top weather and general health. But for the real tru tru answer. Anyone who lifts fo…
/r/seduction28/04/19 04:45 AM
1

Why are you telling me?
/r/seduction24/04/19 09:08 PM
1

I'm sorry but I doubt you see lots of success with women. If that stuff came naturally to everyone, we wouldn't need subreddits like this. Social skills and eating healthy are not directly and causauly associated. That's nonsense. Like any skill, learning and practicing makes it natural. If you're not good at socializing, and you don't learn and practice social skills, then no amount of diet and exercise is going to make you a natural.
/r/seduction24/04/19 06:12 PM
1

You don't know what I represent and I defended you in other comments because I'm a strong proponent of Inner Game. Once your Inner Game is solid, it's not going to magically get you a girl. Outer Game is not just canned lines and routines. It's not the 2005. Outer Game is your body language. It's the way you project your voice, and the eye contact you make. It's about approaching within 3 seconds instead of watching opportunities walk away. It's the way you approach a conversation and ask someon…
/r/seduction24/04/19 04:36 PM
1

I say yes and no. I think we all agree that inner game is crucial, so from that perspective, this is definitely a big steo one to getting laid. You're right that you also have to work your outer game too.
/r/seduction24/04/19 04:23 PM
0

Lol this response has nothing to do with what he said. Positive habits that get your mind right are fantastic. That's a good step one. If you want to get laid though, and this is r/seduction, then you'll need to work outer game as well.
/r/seduction24/04/19 04:22 PM
2

Who cares what it means? She can feel how she wants, it's not a debate. You think she's beautiful, that's your opener and your justification for talking to her. So talk to her. You didn't approach her to talk for 10 minutes about her looks, right? Make small talk, find a chance to get the number.
/r/seduction23/04/19 06:23 PM
2

You can achieve all of that without sounding like a needy boy. There's absolutely no advantage to asking that instead of just having a conversation, flirting, kino, etc.
/r/seduction22/04/19 03:07 PM
1

She's your gf, she most likely wants you to fuck her. Next time take her shirt off. Makeout some more. Then take her pants off. Makeout some more. If she didn't say, "hey let's slow down," then take her panties off. Makeout a bit and put your finger(s) in her. She hasn't stopped you or shown any sign of discomfort? Then you have sex.
/r/seduction22/04/19 02:43 PM
3

Nope. That's a clear sign to me that that someone approaching has no idea what they're doing. I doubt that, "do you have a boyfriend," has gotten anyone laid short of Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth. If she has a boyfriend, and she's committed to him, she'll tell you.
/r/seduction22/04/19 02:30 PM
1

"Because you ghosted me. So what's up?"
/r/seduction22/04/19 02:24 PM
3

Another bitch boi clown out there giving us a bad name. Probably read The Game and thought it was a how to manual.
/r/seduction22/04/19 02:22 PM
1

Well clearly it wasn't the correct frsme or vibe. Choking doesn't belong in your approach routine.
/r/seduction22/04/19 02:21 PM
2

It's pretty straight forward. He's interested and he's a cheater. The real question is, why do you want to know? You want to date a blatant cheater?
/r/seduction22/04/19 12:07 AM
1

Women like a guy in a relationship until the moment you insinuate you're ready to cheat or that you were lying the whole time. On top of that, it would be awfully needy and weird of you to pretend to be taken to get women.
/r/seduction21/04/19 05:50 PM
1

That is controlling.
/r/seduction18/04/19 02:53 AM
1

You don't have a nice guy friend problem. You have a girlfriend problem. You talk to your girlfriend about how you feel and be prepared to walk away if she doesn't care about how you feel.
/r/seduction18/04/19 02:52 AM
1

Because serotonin is produced in the gut, 5htp tends to be trapped in the gut, never actually reaching the brain. This can cause inflammation. Even if you increase the availability of serotonin, that doesn't mean that more will be realeased from the synaptic bulb. That's a whole different mechanism that isn't just related to availability of serotonin. 5htp is not very effective at all for raising serotonin levels in the brain. SSRIs don't block receptors, they block reuptake. SSRIs are also not …
/r/seduction17/04/19 04:23 PM
1

Almost always, but there are medications that don't. Welbutrin is an NDRI that blocks the reuptake of norepinephrine and dopamine. It's known to increase libido, treat depression, and treat ADHD. OP needs to take care of himself and that starts by listening to his doctor. You can't play the game well if you're refusing to treat your medical conditions. That seems like the epitome of fucking up your inner game.
/r/seduction16/04/19 01:38 PM
0

5htp is bad for you. It doesn't increase serotonin in you brain as much as it does in your body. He needs to take the medicine his doctor believes he should be on.
/r/seduction16/04/19 01:33 PM
1

Those men tend to naturally be asked by the woman first, and their non-committal vibe makes them all the more attractive. In truth, the real reason we (this community) let the woman ask first is because we're replicating that. It tends to work.
/r/seduction15/04/19 08:09 PM
1

Exclusive, committed, bf/gf, official, going steady, etc.
/r/seduction15/04/19 08:06 PM
1

The pills block the reuptake of dopamine, adrenaline, and/or serotonin. They don't kill your game. They make sure you're on your game every day. They make it easier to speak your mind and make you feel confident that you can tackle life. Welbutrin, a common one, is actually known to increase libido. Listen to your doctor and take the medicine they recommend. If you have concerns, talk to your doctor and let them address it That's called taking care of yourself, and it's step 1in the game.
/r/seduction15/04/19 01:46 AM
3

Are you depressed? You can get dopamine reuptake inhibitors from a psychiatrist if you feel like your mood is constantly holding you back in life. If you think not beating off is the solution then don't.
/r/seduction14/04/19 06:42 PM
5

Why didn't you have sex by the time 6 dates had passed? Were you escalating enough? Not escalting is the quickest way to let a good thing fizzle out.
/r/seduction14/04/19 05:31 PM
3

When in doubt, dress up. Girls do appreciate a guy who isn't wearing cargo shorts and sports jersey to a modern bar. Context does matter though. Don't be the guy at a rave in slacks and a button down lol
/r/seduction12/04/19 02:12 AM
1

Yes. You don't have to look like a model, but if you're chubby or have a beer gut and boobs, you're holding yourself back.
/r/seduction12/04/19 02:09 AM
1

What do you mean to each his own? If you don't prefer to use dating app, that's cool. To each his own. If you're saying it's impossible to get dates, it's just not. There's a right way and a wrong way to go about it, despite the attention seekers. Waiting a week to ask them out is the wrong way. This is a post about the secind thing, not about preferences.
/r/seduction12/04/19 12:21 AM
1

I recommend 2 books. First, The Game by Neil Strauss. It's not a pick up manual, but it is a book about a pick up artist and what he learned. Anyone here for advice should start with that. The next one is Models by Mark Manson. I highly recommend them, and both come in Audiobook format.
/r/seduction11/04/19 04:23 PM
1

You shouldn't be waiting half a day to ask them on a date. I LITERALLY ask them out in my first message. About 1/4 are straight up excited, another quarter are down within a few more messages, and about half will waste your time.
/r/seduction11/04/19 04:14 PM
1

Protip, Hinge is where it's at right now. If you're not good looking though, you're better off gaming in person where your personality can shine.
/r/seduction11/04/19 06:00 AM
1

Send it then. What's more needy? Waiting on purpose to try and appear perfect, or to do what you want? If you don't have time to.send a message, send it when you do. Send the message when it conveniences you, not when you think will be most impressive or something. She doesn't care at all. Odds are people online won't respond so don't invest so much thought into something that's just nibble. When you get a catch, then maybe put a little more thought into your communication.
/r/seduction09/04/19 06:51 PM
1

The longer you wait, the less likely you are to get anywhere. She's matching like half a dozen dudes a day. Don't be the weenie that doesn't say something.
/r/seduction09/04/19 04:33 AM
1

You really can't think of yourself being a great guy? Are you going at each day like a fucking great guy? The only person holding you back is you. Expensive cars, race, etc., none of that makes you a great guy. It's time to start living like the guy you want to be.
/r/seduction09/04/19 04:10 AM
1

Which one is easiest for you to set up the logistics for a date? Do you want an internet relationship or some in person human connection? It should be obvious.
/r/seduction05/04/19 02:00 AM
1

No I'll never be as condescending as you.
/r/seduction03/04/19 12:58 AM
1

You're weird as fuck dude
/r/seduction03/04/19 12:25 AM
1

You don't know shit about my culture or upbringing or my relationship. Stop trying to make something out of nothing. And also, go fuck yourself.
/r/seduction02/04/19 09:18 PM
1

No, not in a literal sense. But in some way, shape, or from, she might. Since you know, she says things like, "I'm yours."
/r/seduction01/04/19 08:48 PM
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There are a group of guys who think it is okay to game on taken women And finally, this attempt at a blanket statement is patently false and shows a deep misunderstanding of the game Honestly it seems like you're the one making blanket statements. You're saying there is no group of guys totally willing to game taken girls? Because that's a bold thing to say when there's literally guys in this very post proving you wrong.
/r/seduction01/04/19 05:08 PM
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Uh yes, if they were in a long term committed.relationship that situation would be fucked up. If you're talking to a girl for 5 minutes and she leaves with someone else, it's not nearly in the sams ballpark as watching yor girlfriend walk away with a dude lol. For all we know the other guy was her boyfriend and he swooped in and made a game of it. Or OP was annoying her and this guy rescued her from a boring conversation. A girl you've been gaming for 5-10 minutes in no way, shape, or form belon…
/r/seduction01/04/19 05:04 PM
1

Read The Game by Neil Strauss aka Style. Seriously, before you do anything else. It should be the default first book for newbies. By the end of it, you might have a good idea of what parts are bs and what parts are not.
/r/seduction26/03/19 02:03 AM
1

There's lots of philosophies on the game. Some people go out and do routines and perform their way into many sexual encounters. Some people just want the inner game and outer game to capitalize on opportunities so they don't miss out on great relationships. The underlying principles are mostly the same though, and everyone has read most of the same material.
/r/seduction21/03/19 10:15 AM
3

Lose weight and get buff before college. Practice making friends, getting invited to parties, etc. now and by the time you get in shape and to college you'll be unstoppable.
/r/seduction20/03/19 04:37 AM
1

Arizona
/r/seduction20/03/19 04:34 AM
1

Only if she's your girlfriend. That extra stuff is for couples, not confessions.
/r/seduction18/03/19 07:11 PM
2

You're getting sick of what? It sounds like you're playing all kinds of games here instead of enjoying this relationship. Get to know this girl, take ger out have fun, kiss her, etc. Everything doesn't have to run like some book you've read. 90% of the game is just becoming comfortable in your skin and learning to go for it. You didn't fail because of some technical issue. You failed because you went to her house and tried to play games instead of having fun. You're sick of it because your reali…
/r/seduction18/03/19 07:08 PM
2

I think LMR techniques are bullshit. You can freeze her out, basically making her feel like shit and want your attention, and then try again. Seems like some needy, desperate stuff to me though. You basically get passive aggressive and ignore her, and guys are fooling themselves if they think women don't notice. Most women don't want to hook up the same same night they meet you. You're pretty lucky to have gotten them to bed. Why not enjoy the night and try again on the 2nd or 3rd date? If you d…
/r/seduction18/03/19 07:03 PM
2

Just ask what he's looking for. Most guys who get laid don't need to lie to do so. Most guys aren't going to straight up tell you they want something serious if they don't. Alternatively, wait like 2-3 more dates before sex. Most guys who want casual sex and a short term fling won't invest the extra time. If they're having casual sex, they know there's lots of other women on the same page. Just be a little more honest and vulnerable. If you are encountering guys who are straight up lying about w…
/r/seduction15/03/19 02:51 AM
1

I'm gonna take this troll post and turn it completely serious. You cannot get STDs from a dog, although, zoonotic pathogens can evolve over time at the population level. Take HIV as an example. You cannot contract SIV (the type monkeys get), however, frequent exposure to monkey blood likely helped the virus jump to humans. So the odds of you getting anything from fucking your dog is about 0%. If everyone in society fucked their dogs for the next 100 years, some dog pathogen could evolve to infec…
/r/seduction14/03/19 09:42 PM
2

You're debating whether or not to keep fucking someone you're not attracted to. That's a poor demonstration of confidence.
/r/seduction14/03/19 09:35 PM
1

Are you serious right now or....?
/r/seduction14/03/19 09:24 PM
1

Keep playing make believe dude. We'll be here in reality if you have any more questions
/r/seduction14/03/19 03:36 AM
1

Yeah dude? You're "over thst bitch" but you're sad posting on Reddit about how you can't get laid? You don't gotta fool us with some weird fuckboi act. That's not gonna help you and nobody is buying it
/r/seduction14/03/19 03:27 AM
3

Sounds like you made it brah. As for your issue, it's a non issue. You're balancing multiple connections, meaning none of these girls are your girlfriend. The girl you invite gets to go, and the girl you don't invite doesn't. If one of them walks away, it's cool, she wasn't your girlfriend anyways. That's The Game. Now if you were trying to establish a multiple serious relationships at once, and you're genuinely worried about losing either of these girls, I'd say you're fuckin up a little. That'…
/r/seduction13/03/19 07:11 AM
1

Dates can be cheap and even free homie. Picnic and frisbee in the park. Walk around window shopping at the mall. Go on a hike. Ask your parents for $20 and you can meet up for coffee, tea, or ice cream. You'll be fine in terms of funds. So she said she likes you huh? And you like her too? Then be honest and ask her out on a date. But how do you ask? Well I have a couple of tips: Have a time, day, and location in mind before asking. So don't say, "wanna hang out?" Instead say. "Let's go to the ma…
/r/seduction13/03/19 06:58 AM
3

anyways she friend zoned me...we been friends for 5 months now. Then why do you expect her to kiss you dude? Why would she have sex with you? Time to shake this behavior off now dude. Don't ask your platonic friends to have sex, and don't spend 5 months trying to escape the friend zone. You need to MOVE ON. Like yesterday. Now, if you were a real baller and your game was solid, you would be playing social circle game right now. Here's a secret about the friendzone: The friendzone is a wonderful …
/r/seduction13/03/19 06:39 AM
1

Grad students aren't as crazy and tend to place their careers and goals ahead of their social life and relationships. I'll start by saying you should do the same to an extent! Grad school's tough man, and if you try to make up for the stuff you missed in undergrad, you might have a rough time keeping up. That said, being around the university environment should offer lots of opportunities. I recommend you take an undergrad class every semester. They tend to be bigger and tend to hold more young …
/r/seduction13/03/19 06:21 AM
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Before the next exam, ask them if they want to have a study group night at the library. Set up a group text to coordinate it. Now you have numbers. Then, the next time you do something fun (clubbing, hiking, etc.), invite the girl you're closest with, and tell her she can invite her friends and the girls from class. Bonus points if you throw a party at your house and invite them all. Be on the lookout for which girl you end up meshing with most. She'll be your go to for hanging out, and her buy …
/r/seduction13/03/19 05:53 AM
3

Talk to your girlfriend about this in a mature way now or you will regret it later.
/r/seduction11/03/19 11:59 PM
1

Are dates not common in your culture? In my culture, it would be pretty difficult to be official with someone without ever having gone on a date. I don't know your culture, but I'd say this is more of a you problem. Being someone's boyfriend without spending time together doing fun stuff (a date) and without asking? That's nonsense in any culture. You can finesse your way into a bad relationship that ends in heartbreak. If you want the real deal, you need to be open to the idea of hanging out wi…
/r/seduction11/03/19 03:25 PM
1

Apparently the programs didn't help. You good dude?
/r/seduction09/03/19 08:22 PM
1

The only issue here is that you didn't go for it.
/r/seduction09/03/19 01:01 AM
1

Then don't. Going on dates, talking to people, that's not needy. Inaction is not being non-needy, it's just watching what you want pass you by. But this is getting pretty philosophical, and I'm not sure what you're looking for exactly. I gave you a gameplan dude. Not being needy is in the habits and inner game you've developed. If that's solid, then you're solid.
/r/seduction09/03/19 12:53 AM
1

ive had friends whove had computers break torrenting jaja Dude it's 2019. That's the lamest thing anyone's said to try and sell shit today. Anyone with Google can learn to safely torrent material. RSD is old, and their material is all over the internet. Nobody wants second hand digital products.
/r/seduction09/03/19 12:49 AM
1

Well kind of, but also, like I said: reach out and make some definitive plans. That's what you do, assuming that's what you want. Do what you want. If you want her, pursue her. If not, do nothing.
/r/seduction09/03/19 12:47 AM
1

Stop asking your girlfriend for help at work. Be professional. She took credit for the work she did, so no, she did nothing wrong. How your boss takes that is his prerogative and your problem. You should find a way to work around that without asking your girl not to incidentally take credit for the work she did. I'm not sure why you're upset to be honest.
/r/seduction09/03/19 12:41 AM
1

Take position at her side, as in she's laying down, and you're on your knees facing her rib cage/torso and looking over her. Got it? Now finger her well. She'll probably decide on her own that she can pleasure you from this position, if not, put her hand on your dick. She'll probably move to give you a blowjob after a bit of that, if she doesn't, just bring her head towards your dick. If she doesn't want to, she'll tell you with her words or actions. However, she probably wants to, but is probab…
/r/seduction09/03/19 12:35 AM
1

You should try r/polyamory. If you say seducing girls is not a problem, then the answers you seek are little outside the scope of here, don't you think? Just seduce them. There's no sure way to make it all work smoothly for you in a world where your situation is not the norm. My only advice is don't. Sounds like you talked your girlfriend into some shit she actually doesn't want for selfish reasons.
/r/seduction09/03/19 12:30 AM
1

You're a creep dude, seek help
/r/seduction09/03/19 12:26 AM
1

She's just a human. We can't interpret every little thing she does. She's dealing with her feelings in her own way, so stop trying to predict what they mean. She said you can meet up after break. So as that approaches, reach out and make some definitive plans. That's it, one step at a time, keep moving forward. Knowing why she's being different doesn't change the outcome or how you should be acting.
/r/seduction09/03/19 12:25 AM
1

If you start approaching girls at your high school everyday, you will absolutely get a bad rep. The school is too small and gossip travels too fast. But that's not what seduction is really about. It's about not being afraid to try for what you want. So if you're in class with a girl you think is cute and you want to know more about her, talk to her. If you go to a football game and see a girl from another school, ask her about it. If you're at the grocery store and you see someone you recognize …
/r/seduction09/03/19 12:23 AM
1

Sounds like a total coincidence man. Keep getting big and if you want to do daygame than do it. No amount of squats is going to make or break your ability to push through approach anxiety.
/r/seduction09/03/19 12:15 AM
1

Just ask her to coffee dude, and a lot of dudes here are clueless when it comes to maintaining relationships. Not everyone, but lots. She reached out to you, that means something, and it's an opportunity to take some action without being too needy. So, invite her out to catch up sometime. Treat that as your first date. Get to know the new her, find out how she's been, and let her get to notice all of the improvements you've made to yourself since then. Imagine you're kind of starting the relatio…
/r/seduction09/03/19 12:09 AM
1

The theory is lack of comfort; the trust and rapport you built was not strong enough. I propose that kiss closing is definitely an easier step to reach than getting a first date. If a girl is attracted to you, having a good time, had a drink or two, then it's pretty easy to kiss. It's all in the energy and attraction of the moment. But once she gets a text from you at 3pm on a Tuesday, there's no energy and attraction isn't strong enough for her to take a chance and go out with you. She'd have b…
/r/seduction09/03/19 12:01 AM
1

You don't represent this community dude.
/r/seduction08/03/19 11:55 PM
5

Most guys aren't getting laid approaching at bars and clubs either. That's why this community exists. They aren't gettind laid because they suck at the game, and the same goes for apps like Tinder. If it's not working for you, you're either below average in looks or you aren't good at that aspect of the game.
/r/seduction22/02/19 06:34 PM
11

Terrible idea. Super needy. Live a lifestyle of abundance and you'll achieve the effect you're going for. Using your words to imply abundance is weenie tier game.
/r/seduction12/02/19 09:46 PM
4

If you're going out to meet girls instead of to have fun, you're gonna have a bad time. Your average level confidence looks like weenie tier confidence when you're standing around all night feeling sorry for yourself. Believe me, girls see it all over your face. Nobody has good looks when they're at the bar/club not having a good time. Why would any girl want to be with a guy who doesn't look like he can have fun? Girls aren't there to meet you, they're there to have a blast. You need to work on…
/r/seduction09/02/19 06:53 PM
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You've already seduced your SO. Don't play games with your girlfriend of 3 years. Game at this point, in my experience, is strictly Inner Game and honesty. If your Inner Game is slipping, fix that. You won't get anywhere with a poor mindset or if you aren't taking care of yourself. As for honesty. don't ask us this: What can I do as her BF to make things more exciting? Ask HER. Being unable to communicate with the person you know and trust is a sign of declining Inner Game. Communicate with your…
/r/seduction09/02/19 06:38 PM
2

Very. If yoy haven't been grooming, getting a nice haircut, wearing well fitting clothes, and working out; you're holding yourself back. Some stuff we can't control, but if you aren't working on the stuff you can control, you haven't even completed Step 1 of becoming desireable man.
/r/seduction09/02/19 12:39 AM
1

Sounds like you need to sort your life out first. If you think you're a low value guy, why should anyone else think differently?
/r/seduction27/01/19 09:08 PM
0

Asking a girl on a date isn't needy and unattractive. You don't escalate in the phone. You do that in person.
/r/seduction27/01/19 08:35 PM
2

Asking a girl on a date isn't needy and unattractive. You don't escalate in the phone. You do that in person.
/r/seduction27/01/19 08:34 PM
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Speak for your own experiences dude. Just because you don't match wit high quality women doesn't mean they aren't there.
/r/seduction27/01/19 01:20 AM
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women try to catch your eyes and act interested You're probably imagining this part
/r/seduction24/01/19 05:00 PM
2

I wrote a bunch of relationship advice for OP already, but I have to second this. For future reference OP, if a girl is in your bed and you aren't escalating, you're basically throwing cold water on whatever spark there might have been.
/r/seduction23/01/19 09:22 AM
19

You need to move on. She just left a relationship dude. Of course she's not ready to just jump into a new one. She does want the cuddles and conversation, but she's not ready for the commitment and intimacy. You can't force this. What you can do is maintain your frame, back off a little, be her friend, be your best self, and date other people. That is your best chance for creating a scenario where this current gurl does decide she wants you. It's not about logic, and being persistant is going to…
/r/seduction22/01/19 04:08 AM
4

This is a really good Seduction take on this relationship issue. It's a super common thing that happens to newbie who find their stride. They find out how to perform and cocky/funny their way into something serious, and then they have no idea how to manage a relationship and keeo trying to fake PUA their girlfriend until she gets wise and understandably leaves you. This is exactly the kind of shit Style was writing about in The Game all those years ago, and it's why we focus so much on Inner Gam…
/r/seduction19/01/19 04:31 AM
1

Not when you have a girlfriend you don't.
/r/seduction19/01/19 04:28 AM
22

Being a bitch isn't a shit test. Sometimes you need to call people out, in a mature and calm way. Same goes for the kisses. If you're dating, it's completely normal to be jealous of someone kissing your girl. It's not normal to have an outburst. Have a mature conversation instead. She knows her male friends shouldn't be kissing her, she knows it's normal to be jealous. She thinks she's got you wrapped around her finger though is what it seems like. Don't be passive, but don't be a whiny boi eith…
/r/seduction18/01/19 03:10 PM
2

It's not talking about average normal dudes. It's talking about fedora wearing nexkbeards.
/r/seduction12/01/19 12:34 AM
6

There are no clues to tell you what stage you're in, you should know because you've talked with her about it explicitly. If you haven't talked about being girlfriend/boyfriend then she's not your girlfriend. If you go on dates, but you're not in a girlfriend/boyfriend situation, you're dating. You can also have a talk about being exclusive. Don't assume you're exclusive if you haven't talked about it, but also don't expect to fuck around while technically not exclusive and still maintain the rel…
/r/seduction31/12/18 05:17 PM
5

NLP is bullshit my dude. That said, keep doing things that make you feel good and Merry Christmas!
/r/seduction25/12/18 02:37 PM
14

Everyone in the bar isn't supposed to know you as the dude who comes around and gets rejected by all the women. A small bar where people know the owner is not the place to do this. That's how you catch a bad reputation. You want a big busy bar where if you approach 10 women in a night, nobody will notice. You can approach anywhere, but you can't power approach over and over again in a in a tight knit community and annoy everyone.
/r/seduction21/12/18 03:43 PM
1

It means nobody could possibly know the answer except the people in the video. More than likely they're real though, because I and many other people here have cold approached women and received their number. It's not rocket science and there's no reason what you see in the video needs to faked. What they probably don't show are the many rejections they are dealt between their successes.
/r/seduction19/12/18 04:48 PM
1

Nobody said anything about pussy except you two. I said "success." This kind of misunderstanding is what happens when you come into a conversation with bias and preconceived notions instead of an open mind. The difference between seduction and "just be confident" has nothing to do with how many times you can get laid. The difference is that one of us is both confident in social interactions, andknows how to successfully navigate them. That's all. This post is describing Inner Game. It's the fund…
/r/seduction18/12/18 12:35 PM
0

I didn't say anything about pussy anywhere. I said more success. You're the only one talking about pussy and doing things solely for the interest of seducing females. So right off the bat I've identified our misunderstanding. Stigma. I don't think you do understand game. You have a flawed idea of what seduction is and of the people in this community. Because of that, you think you're breaking the mold by saying you just need confidence. People have been telling their buddies, "just be confident …
/r/seduction18/12/18 12:11 PM
1

Yes. 100%
/r/seduction14/12/18 06:26 PM
3

If you become a photographer for the sole purpose of hooking up with women on Instgram, you're a creep. You probably wouldn't tell someone to hit on the women in their office, and this is no exception.
/r/seduction14/12/18 12:46 PM
2

I fundamentally disagree with the definition of a shit test. There's no psychological or physiological basis to suggest that women are unconsciously testing you, and if they're consciously testing you, that's not a woman you want to be around. Rather, a shit test is a phenomenon in which a situation circumstantially has a significant impact on your success depending on how you respond. These arise normally in conversation as a part of typical social dynamics, and have nothing to do with intent o…
/r/seduction14/12/18 12:32 PM
1

I was going to give honest and kind advice but then I saw your comment and realized you're a troll or a bitch boi so I'll settle for honest. You're 30 years old. You're the only second draft pick, and that's because you're an adult playing little league. Those women you insulted are playing pro and have infinitely more to offer than you do. You're either trolling us or trolling around a college town looking for young women whose lives and ambitions do not align with yours. Time to grow up my dud…
/r/seduction14/12/18 12:25 PM
2

Just other stuff. Don't talk to her any more or less than you normally do. You can remind her once when she arrives and and the date is approaching. Like a couple of days before hand just to be sure she didn't forget and you don't show up by yourself. You don't want toccome across overly eager or needy. She agreed and that's that. If the logistics are worked out, you only need one reminder/confirmation. Go ahead and assume it's a date until firther notice. Consider this: If she was your girlfrie…
/r/seduction14/12/18 12:16 PM
6

Tinder fluctuates. College towns see migrations depending on the time of year. Same with beach cities, tourist spots, etc. Big cities will be abundant in genral but small towns will be limited. Weekends are more popular than weekdays. Tinder's algorithms may show people who are active first and then people who haven't been on in a few days, so the weekdays might be very dry. Swiping right on everyone will trigger your profile as undesirable and the algorithms will put you at a disadvantage, so b…
/r/seduction14/12/18 12:03 PM
3

Yeah you should have taken it easy. You tried to be intimate, she enforced boundaries, and you respectes them. That's all good. You ask about a second date. That's terrible. You put her on the spot in your home and you came across as needy. Act like a guy with social awareness. Not only in that you know not to ask, but in that you should already know how the date went and how much of a connection there was so you shouldn't need to ask. You had the relationship talk on date one. Consider that rom…
/r/seduction14/12/18 11:46 AM
2

It is a date, don't go making a huge deal of it. I'd like to know two things: How long will she be around? Is it implied that you are both interested in one another? Regardless, ths is your first time meeting her so meet somewhere public and somewhere that fosters communication and intimacy. Night time coffee shops, night time drinks, evening walks around a mall, anywhere you can talk but doesn't give off a "friends" vibe. No lunch. No dinner. No movies on a first date. The most important thing …
/r/seduction14/12/18 11:34 AM
1

That's a pretty AFC thing to say and shows a fundemental lack of understanding of The Game. You described a single aspect of Outer Game and while it's very important, there are people seeing much more success in dating than you are, I promise.
/r/seduction14/12/18 11:14 AM
1

You're scary dude. I'm not trying to insult you, I just think lots of people go through life living the wrong way and everyone's too scared to tell them the truth. Maybe you're trolling and/or trying to give this community a bad name. If not, this is bad. The posts you make show a deep misunderstanding of social dynamics and a deep hatred for women. This community isn't about hatred or narcissism. We don't trick women into being with us and nobody healthy wants to be around someone who hates the…
/r/seduction14/12/18 11:05 AM
2

Seriously
/r/seduction14/12/18 10:30 AM
1

Stop thinking about game as getting girls. That's the end goal but that's like saying how do I win in golf when my short game sucks. Obviously you work on your short game. Your social skills are an aspect of The Game and you need to work on them before you start seeing success. Change the goalposts in your mind to.something more attainable. Stop thinking you're only succeeding if you get a girl's number and start measuring success by how many conversations you can strike up with acquaintances an…
/r/seduction14/12/18 10:16 AM
2

I totally agree. You asked if I was kidding and said it was nice guy bullshit so I had to fire back my dude.
/r/seduction11/12/18 08:10 PM
1

Who says you cant "next her ass" and also go to a party she invites you too? That's the definition of platonic, she's been nexted. If you can't remove yourself from your feelings in order to have a bigger social circle, that's your own charcter flaw. There's more to game than the cold approach.
/r/seduction11/12/18 03:44 PM
1

Sure I did. You want to dwell in things things when what you need to do is move on. Delete her numver, delete her social media, delete this post and anything else sbout her, and go cry until you're over it. You can be sad, you can cry, but you can't be self destructive. This post itself is self destructive behavior. You'd be better off crying in your room for a few days than this.
/r/seduction11/12/18 03:40 PM
15

On the other hand, being an orbiter is entirely based on your intentions, and you missed out on an opportunity to expand your social circle and play social circle game with her friends. I don't know what the "pretend to offer to pay" trick is either. If you'd said, "sure let's go half," she'd have no choice but to do so. What you should be more focused on is why did the date play out this way? I'll give you one reason; dinner is a terrible first date choice. It doesn't allow for slow and gradual…
/r/seduction09/12/18 08:25 PM
1

I can explain that you should stop worrying about the psychology of your destructive behavior and start acting in a way that is conducive to you moving on.
/r/seduction08/12/18 07:42 PM
16

Seek therapy.
/r/seduction08/12/18 07:33 PM
1

That's totally fair. It certainly was easier to perform your way into bed.
/r/seduction07/12/18 11:14 PM
2

I strongly disagree. Maybe for getting laid without stigma but not for developing as a socially well adjusted man and attaining long term self satisfaction. You can pick up girls now without paying thousands of dollars for a bootcamp or wearing a fuzzy hat and leather pants and telling them their ears are big like a cute bunny.
/r/seduction07/12/18 11:06 PM
7

Most people in this community are not hanging out in lairs and testing people's frame. He went full early 2000s.
/r/seduction07/12/18 04:56 PM
2

No it's not. It's really old stuff from when puas wore funny hats and leather pants.
/r/seduction01/12/18 05:33 AM
8

That's just your personal definition of the term. Others might say living a life of discovery is."alpha." Others probably get laid more than you too. You're caughf up on our own negative interpretation of a concept, but hardly anyone is preaching what you're describing. Women and lay people say it all the time, "just be confident!" Same difference.
/r/seduction23/11/18 02:34 PM
3

You find a certian body type attractive so go for that type.
/r/seduction19/11/18 05:43 PM
4

From an Old School Outer Game Perspective: You're stuck in the Attraction phase when you should ideally be getting to the Comfort phase before number closing. You're approaching and trying to demonstrate value by being the cool guy that you are, but you aren't getting her to work for you. You're definitely not developing the conversation into a free flowing , friendly, and sympathetic dialogue. That's how you build rapport and it happens after you mutually hold each other as high value. Here's t…
/r/seduction16/11/18 10:37 AM
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Depends what your goals are and how much time you spend in the gym already my dude.
/r/seduction16/11/18 05:39 AM
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If you've never used Audible, you can get a free trial (one credit) for signing up. Just sign up, use the credit to buy Models, download it, then cancel your membership and they won't charge you. Now you can listen to Models in the car, at the gym, in the shower, etc. Plus, Mark Manson narrates it himself. I felt like I had a personal dating coach with me everywhere. Pretty dope.
/r/seduction16/11/18 05:38 AM
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Inner Game Inner Game is the mindset you carry and vibe you put out. It's important, like 70% of The Game. If this is solid, people will be naturally attracted to you. When you're your best self and live your best life, you're a desirable man. Read Models, then listen to Book of Pook on Youtube. Those are your Inner Game lessons. Outer Game Next you need some Outer Game skills. Outer Game is comprised of skills maneuvers that you use in navigating approaches and conversations to maximize success…
/r/seduction15/11/18 09:19 PM
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Go away, she doesn't want to talk to you. Unless you're actually just cool with not fucking. That's 95% likely to be the case, it's not going anywhere and she wants you to leave.
/r/seduction09/11/18 08:46 AM
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Cold approaching isn't for subarban areas. If you cold approach one girl because you think she's pretty that's cool, but if you hang out all day in a mom and pop shop to hit on girls then you might actually be a creep. Practicing daygame and nightgame is best done in places where people go to interact with other people. Hit the city.
/r/seduction02/11/18 06:08 PM
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It is your fault. Getting free drinks is nothing compared to grinding on a dude. Any reasonable person would assume you're cool with accepting drinks based on what you told her.
/r/seduction02/11/18 06:04 PM
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Alpha/beta is a terrible mindset, however, there's nothing alpha about letting your girl grind on dudes at the bar in front of you. Accepting drinks is very small compared to that. That's very beta. You don't control her, but you control you and your standards and boundaries. If my girl asked if she could grind on some dude, I'd say: You can do what you want but what you do tells me how invested you are in this relationship. Mt girl would never do that though. Because we are considerate and matu…
/r/seduction02/11/18 06:02 PM
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You look 24 with a neckbeard. Groom yourself dude. Nobody is rejecting you because you look young. Date people around your age. Make an appoinment with a psychiatrist and then get into therapy ASAP. If you think success with women will make you happy, you're mistaken. Fix yourself, then worry about your dating life.
/r/seduction02/11/18 05:54 PM
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Literally just ask. You're in one of those positions where it's a perfectly normal thing to ask. Completely socially acceptable. Just ask, and like always, know how to take no for an answer.
/r/seduction02/11/18 04:55 PM
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Morals Lol good one
/r/seduction25/10/18 02:15 AM
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This. Inner game and Outer game work together. Building your inner game will definitely make you cross paths with more women, but you also have to be willing and able to capitalize on opportunities.
/r/seduction25/10/18 02:13 AM
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Dude you really shouldn't have to ask if it's cool to date people in university. It obviously is.
/r/seduction17/10/18 06:31 PM
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People talk without wanting to fuck each other. If that's not the case on your end, then you're wasting your own time by sticking around.
/r/seduction17/10/18 06:14 PM
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A shit test isn't an actual test girls are consciously throwing at you. It's a situation or conversation where you can respond in different ways, some correct and some that will make her lose attraction to you. If a girl is actually consciously throwing tests at you, she's playing games and I see no reason to try and pass them.
/r/seduction16/10/18 06:11 PM
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Well yeah, this guy's right OP. That was for future reference.
/r/seduction15/10/18 07:14 PM
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The difference is your asking for her time and attention rather than demonstrating the social skills and qualities that would get you that naturally. Engaging in social interaction is not needy. Asking a stranger for social interaction is needy.
/r/seduction28/09/18 07:39 AM
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Because you complimented her and then immediately asked for something from her. 95% of the time the answer to that question will be "no thanks."
/r/seduction28/09/18 05:38 AM
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Hey, I thought you look cute today Yes, that's bold and straightforward. how about we get to know each other a lil more How about not? Lol. Don't say that. You suddenly went from bold to needy boi. Just introduce yourself, ask what class she's headed to next, blah blah, you ready for that test, blah blah, lets study sometime, get her number. There's no magic lines to make it happen. Whether or not you get the number will be decided in about 10 seconds. If you can avoid being needy, avoid being c…
/r/seduction27/09/18 04:57 AM
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About the most unnatural thing you could do would be to try and use some line or joke to break the ice. Just give her a hug to start the first phase of kino, ask how her day was, proceed with date. You don't break the ice with lines or tricks, you break the ice by having a good date. It's a date dude! Presumably the girls hot and you picked something fun to do. So the only things that should be on your mind are: I'm having fun tonight And I wonder what this girl is all about Then you have fun, a…
/r/seduction27/09/18 04:51 AM
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That's a huge gap and almost nobody goes from kissing to sex. Just because you kissed someone doesn't mean they're ready to have sex with you. There's a select few girls at the club that want to fuck someone immediately. There's no way to just tell who, so it's luck. But either way from the first time you kiss, you need to spend more time with these girls. So don't give up and send them away because you couldn't get laid two minutes after kissing. Keep having fun, keep being the you from before …
/r/seduction26/09/18 02:59 AM
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Nope
/r/seduction17/09/18 03:03 AM
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trying to impose your schedule on someone See, there you go drawing your own wrong conclusions. why asking for a woman's schedule is not a good idea Never said that.
/r/seduction16/09/18 04:53 AM
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You're literally trying to tell me I try to control women right here in this comment based on about a line of text from me and then a bunch of your own extrapolations. You're way off base. You could've asked some clarifying questions, but instead you're making tons of assumptions. That's not criticism, it's bullshit, so I'm not playing along. Nothing you've written since your first post has value if you're going to make all of those assumptions.
/r/seduction14/09/18 04:44 PM
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who actually thinks is the one that can design her schedule according to his own will Did you get that from me saying this? If she can't make that time, she'll let you know. Because that's a serious mental stretch and completely wrong about who I am. That's not congruent with the words I wrote in the least. And this.... Slow down, you're not there yet. Get out of here dude, and stop building some persona of me that's way off base. If it matters how you say it, then they're gonna need more than j…
/r/seduction14/09/18 02:13 AM
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Same here bro! She was cute as fuck trying to work up the courage to ask me out lol
/r/seduction13/09/18 08:44 PM
1

I'd love to be a fly on that dudes shoulder to see how many times he gets blown out.
/r/seduction13/09/18 08:43 PM
1

Models by Mark Manson, followed by any outer game book of your choosing. I recommend The Natural by Richard La Ruina. Then you approach when you go out, and practice interacting with the women you encounter normally on a day to day basis. Post here when you have specific questions for some specific advice.
/r/seduction13/09/18 08:38 PM
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The people who seek these services for help do not understand how to organically interact with women. These systems are not end all be all to the game. They are frameworks around which you build yourself until you have the understanding, confidence, and experience to call yourself a natural. Being a natural means you do all of these things without having to recall the information. Whether you read these guides or not, if you're successful with women, it's because of concepts described on the boo…
/r/seduction13/09/18 08:35 PM
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Nope, you shouldn't have waited any longer to ask. There's three type of girls you encountwr online. The ones who want to meet you The ones who don't want to meet you The ones who want to waste your time because they're bored You just encountered number 3. If a girl is interested in meeting and potentially dating someone she met online, the amount of time you spend messaging doesn't matter. If she wanted to get to know you more first, she would have been upfront and said so. "Haha yeah maybe," m…
/r/seduction13/09/18 08:04 PM
1

It doesn't really matter, just no dinner or movies. Somewhere where you can talk and interact. Try and change venues, if possible, mid-date. I've had dates just walking in the mall and ended up getting laid. I've had a couple of drinks at the bar and then ice cream and got laid. I've taken a girl to the animal shelter to look at cute dogs, obviously got laid. My favorite coffee shop is open 24 hours, so that's my go to, always works out. Keep it simple. You just need a public place to hang out a…
/r/seduction13/09/18 10:17 AM
2

Tinder is tricky. Prepare yourself now, you may or may not make this work. Accepting that is step one. Next step is to ask her on a date. Have a plan, suggest a day and activity. If she can't make that time, she'll let you know. If she likes you, she'll suggest a different time. Whatever you do, don't waste your time messaging in the app forever. That's how these interactions become stale. You can get to know each other way better in person on a date than on a screen, and trust, you won't be get…
/r/seduction13/09/18 09:55 AM
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That's because you want to control the vagina dude. It's not yours to control. It's not a treasure chest. There's a hundred reasons a woman will sleep with a guy, and most of them have nothing to do with being special. If you're special, and she's special, you'll connect in ways that she hasn't with anyone else, trust me. Don't use her pussy as a measure of your self worth. Girls generally have this figured out more than we do. Plus they're in higher demand than guys typically. Woman drive more …
/r/seduction13/09/18 09:50 AM
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Scam? No. Tyler Durden and company were about as legit as they come. They got laid, and they taught other people to get laid. However, there's different styles of Game. Tyler might not have connections as strong and deep as mine. He also has definitely had sex with more woman than me lol. The hottest girl I've ever date is probably on par with his. At the end of the day, we're both probably happy people. That said, RSD probably gives PUA a bad name. Their videos can be useful to study in field f…
/r/seduction13/09/18 09:40 AM
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Alright OP, ignore the clowns down there and listen up. It's best to let her ask. Now, either way is fine. You can ask her to be your girlfriend and still be the fucking big dick Don Juan player that you are. It's not wrong to want something, and then make appropriate moves to make it happen. However, at the end of the day, asking her is a needy behavior. Worst case, she's only about 70% sure about you, but she definitely wants to date a little longer, so she says yes. Who knows how long it'll t…
/r/seduction13/09/18 09:18 AM
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I don't know man, this sounds like a "you" issue. There's no reason you shouldn't be able to say this as long as your tone and body language are congruent with your intent. If you're tiptoeing about the things you say and do nowadays because of a potentially toxic culture that could potentially fuck a good dude over, you're not wrong. But this particular issue isn't one of those moments you particularly need to watch yourself. If a woman gets mad over that line, you probably had very strange ton…
/r/seduction13/09/18 07:04 AM
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An alternative to this: I would love to see you, when are you free to get together? Might be this: Let's catch up, how does Thursday night at insert date idea here sound? Depends how receptive she's being I think. The first one might convey a little neediness in my opinion. Plus it's generally not a good idea to ask when she's available. In general, when asking for a date, suggest a plan. If she can't make that time, she'll let you know. If she's interested, she'll offer an alternative.
/r/seduction13/09/18 03:27 AM
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Don't tell me about seduction lol
/r/seduction11/08/18 11:40 PM
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Well you shouldn't write a guide for people not getting laid that requires them to know the right circumstances.
/r/seduction11/08/18 10:36 PM
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Yeah it's fine if the girl already wants to fuck you. It's not going to make a girl want to fuck you.
/r/seduction11/08/18 10:34 PM
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Like I said, you're not over that girl, and you need to do something about that first things first.
/r/seduction07/08/18 08:14 PM
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Your dream girl isn't real dude. She's a manifestation of your sub concious. Write down all of the qualities and traits you want in a girl. Now eat it. You'll never find someone to match what you wrote. It's fake. Disney told you there's a one and now it's been carved into your soul. Wake up. This girl you have now, the one you've been seeing, she's REAL. If you want to be with this girl then do it, if not, then don't. Sometimes things don't work out, that's life. Enjoy the moments you do have, …
/r/seduction07/08/18 04:41 AM
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Wrong comment broski
/r/seduction25/07/18 01:23 AM
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The Game isn't even about outer game, you really shouldn't have brought it up is this context. It's actually a book about inner game. The point can be summarized as: PUA is a journey that starts with a decision to be a better you and can end in two ways. 1. You end up relying on success with women as your basis for happiness and you fuckin lose it, like Mystery. 2. You combine the skills you've practiced and comfort in social situations that you've developed and merge that with who you are insid…
/r/seduction05/05/18 10:12 PM
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Pretty much any book on outer game is fine to compliment Mark Manson's book. Hell you could use the old school Mystery Method as long as you adopted the inner game from Models. You could also easily get away with just watching RSD and 21 Convention videos on YouTube. Now if you don't adopt solid inner game as is described in Models, or have serious trouble with inner game that you haven't been seeking help for, you'll need very solid outer game. But then you're just faking. That's fine, you'll g…
/r/seduction05/05/18 09:50 PM
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No. It's a situation. You can respond in an attractive way or a needy beta way. You can certainly fake it all with simple outer game like cocky/funny. But solid inner game and social practice almost eliminates this as an issue.
/r/seduction17/04/18 08:09 PM
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Many people are confused about what shit tests are. A shit test is not a literal test. It's not a deliberate action on a woman's part to try and trick you or some shit like that. If you encounter a woman who would do stuff like that, run. It's not worth it. That said, a shit test is a real thing. Shit test is just the term used to describe a phenomenon. That phenomenon has two parts. First, a situation arises in which a girl says something, does something, or asks something that requires a respo…
/r/seduction17/04/18 07:13 PM
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If you had a good connection she won't say that.
/r/seduction17/04/18 04:34 PM
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Really? Sure, they're valid points but, why is anyone here surprised about another video on inner game? There's one of these literally everyday.
/r/seduction16/04/18 06:01 AM
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Sure if she's your wife. Pump the breaks buddy.
/r/seduction16/04/18 06:00 AM
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Yeah but, why?
/r/seduction16/04/18 06:00 AM
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This sub isn't about settling for "average" aka grody.
/r/seduction16/04/18 01:31 AM
1

Grody women
/r/seduction14/04/18 04:05 PM
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That's not what The Game is about at all though. It's literally about the downfall of the most famous MPUA because of bad frame. But you're probably right, it can be hard to read between the lines.
/r/seduction13/04/18 10:19 PM
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But outer game is always better and harder. I disagree actually. Changing your attitudes, beliefs, and personality is objectively harder than practicing a skill. And I argue that an average looking confident, happy, and social dude with a good job and good fashion sense will get laid more than an average looking dude with lines. Don't believe it? Think about it this way: Preselection. That's a powerful outer game tool, correct? Now how exactly does one get an abundance of beautiful women to go t…
/r/seduction13/04/18 10:10 PM
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Also groom yourself you fucks! Lol but seriously, too many people have told me shit like: Why should I change my hair/style/beard/shampoo/personality for some girl? Because your hair is a mop and it smells and your "shock value" jokes suck. If you aren't willing to put in effort to present yourself in your most attractive light, you'll be fishing in a smaller, shittier pond. You don't need to change who you are, but you should strive to be the best you that you can be. That includes aesthetics, …
/r/seduction13/04/18 07:53 AM
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Losers settle. Non losers fuck a different population of women on average. There's plenty of losers fucking other losers. But if that's your standard, well, you're a loser lol
/r/seduction13/04/18 07:45 AM
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Most people get laid dude. Not necessarily with the girls they want though.
/r/seduction13/04/18 07:44 AM
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Alwaaaaays in this sub the conversation has to turn to inner game! Lol Yes, value is important. This was an outer game guide though. You didn't do anything wrong, it's just kind of crazy how little outer game is acknowledged here.
/r/seduction13/04/18 07:43 AM
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Breh, if you want to get laid, you dont say no to a hot girl inviting you to her place. We all thought you were talking about a much different scenario here.
/r/seduction31/03/18 01:46 AM
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Depends man. Is she all over you and giggling like a school girl? Then you might benefit from sticking with her. Is she being subtle with her IOIs, and playing the game with you? Find an excuse to step away for a bit. Tell her you saw a friend you need to say hi to, and go chat with other people for a second. I think that demonstrates a lot of value. You can do something corny to make sure she doesnt dip like tell her to hold your hat, keys, lighter, sun glasses, etc. Mystery used to do that; on…
/r/seduction31/03/18 01:43 AM
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You don't "get girls" on Omegle. That's not seduction. Try a bar or a bookstore.
/r/seduction11/03/18 06:47 PM
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Only if it's huge.
/r/seduction11/03/18 06:46 PM
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I guess.you'v never used Omegle.
/r/seduction11/03/18 06:46 PM
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When you stop being a student. I'm a 24 year old grad student for example, continuously studying since undergrad. I'm in the same library as everyone else studying for midterms. I'm at the same coffee shops, and I've got the same bars and clubs to hit up. My girlfriend is an undergrad, she's very glad to be dating an older man who's got goals and brains. I'm happy to tag along with her to parties, and make my own slightly younger friends. Of course she and her friends do research and are applyin…
/r/seduction24/02/18 08:23 AM
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