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I agree , they're too loaded to be useful. I'm going to stop using them as well I like "value/comfort" as a good distinction for what RP talks about
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 02:19 AM
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I like girls who lift I like girls who are feisty enough to give me a good challenge I like girls who maybe for a minute think they can beat me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 07:41 PM
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But what I don't understand is, if I hated doing aftercare, I'd either suck it up and do it, or only choose partners who were okay without it. I don't understand why you wouldn't pick one of those two options
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 07:35 PM
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lol what Washing yourself does help prevent infection This is like germs 101 Edit: oh nvm I see what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 03:51 PM
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What about "that's none of your business"? Surely a person can set boundaries about what they'll disclose to others
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 04:15 AM
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I mean, it's not always so black and white. When she says, "no daddy, teach me," I don't think it can reasonably be construed as a serious answer. A lot of times if I don't like where a conversation is going I will avoid questions or give silly answers, or if I want to be a bit more stern I might say something like "thats none of your business" or "that's a weird question..."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 03:56 AM
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If I ever ask, I'm expecting that kind of answer. To be fair my girl knows I wouldn't ask that stuff seriously/jealously. And I guess taking it a step further. I'm the kind of person that believes sometimes you should tell a person what's best for them to hear, not necessarily the truth. This is something you've got to apply responsibly, not just conveniently lying all the time. (i.e., you might tell a lie to spare feels, but address the situation in a more roundabout manner later)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 03:31 AM
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"No daddy, teach me"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 11:29 PM
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Who are these guys who are asking? JFC if it comes to that you've already lost
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 11:17 PM
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In my experience the attractive feminist women are actually very likely to prefer traditionally masculine men, even though they will give a lot of lip service to the idea of "many types of masculinity." When they're doing the lip service, they're speaking in the abstract, about what some woman somewhere may possibly like. They aren't actually speaking about their own preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 10:01 PM
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I think it's kinda funny, how she gets so nice to me when I'm dominating her physically and/or humiliating her. I don't know, I like the power play. I do it with all my lovers, including LTR. The only time I do aftercare is after threesomes or intense jealousy play. The more attractive the woman, the more I'm gonna do this stuff. The less attractive, she's more likely to get vanilla. If you don't like a certain kink, either select a partner who doesn't like that particular act or learn to like i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 08:50 PM
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It's effective. That's why I do it. I don't like it, but it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 10:09 PM
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I generally do the same--like I said above I hate running dread as I think it's cruel. I only do it in response to crazy bitchiness. My point is that (1) it's effective and (2) mainstream advice doesn't touch upon lots of RP topics
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 09:19 PM
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In my experience she wants me MUCH more when I take action, only "talk things through" in roundabout ways using implications and innuendo, and handle the situation from a position of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 07:28 PM
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calmly explain? When we're on a dance floor in a loud club and she's storming off half drunk? That isn't going to work. What does work? Grab the girl next to me who's been giving me "that look," and start dancing with her. Oh, look who's come back, suddenly so composed. Look who's suddenly trying to win me back, not come to some solution, not talk it out, she's trying to get me to hold her close and choose her over someone else. Why would I want a talk it out type solution when this works so muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 07:25 PM
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Why would I use these "talk it out" solutions when they don't work as well? If I come at it from a position of power she'll be going crazy for me to fuck her senseless an hour from now. If I come at it as you suggest, we'll have a nice chat and maybe a good platonic resolution. Which outcome sounds better?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 06:15 PM
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lol okay I'll just dump every girl whenever she gets bitchy ever, totally makes sense Dude I've been with an absolute angel of a woman for about a year and a half now: I can count on one hand the number of times she's gotten that way with me. Humans being humans, three bad moments in 18 months is pretty fuckin good. But when she did get that way, I used active dread and she quit acting like a bitch. She realized she wasn't going to get away with that childish shit and she stopped doing it. it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 06:07 PM
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Tell me , what blue pill dating advice will tell me that if a girl starts treating me badly , that the most effective thing I can do to woo that girl is (1) turn my back to her and (2) pick up another girl. I consider this something of a "nuclear option" because fuck if it isn't cruel. But does it work? This type of thing isn't anywhere in typical feminized dating advice. Neither is physical aggression and domination. Neither is humiliation. Neither is push pull. Etc etc etc. These techniques ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 05:48 PM
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I read it as "I see guys come to /r/niceguys looking for advice, it's obviously the wrong subreddit, where should they go." Powerful might've been the wrong word. Maybe... "It's when you act nice to the point where you're completely unable to be aggressive or assertive."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 01:39 AM
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We could do thought experiments like that all day long. I'm looking for archetypes The point stands: hipster alpha doesn't look like mafia godfather, though they do exhibit some similar behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 01:34 AM
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There most certainly is such a thing as being too nice. It is when you act nice to the point where it gets in the way of acting powerfully
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 01:29 AM
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Alpha guys are not alpha everywhere they go, there are different social contexts and the RP way of looking at it is just a useful framework. I've watched guys who (I'm sure) are completely alpha on their home turf hang back when they're in a situation where different power structures rule
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 01:11 AM
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Taking the term strictly, "alpha" means the one leader of the group. In a sufficiently large group, there will be a few high value betas jockeying for alpha position. generally it'll be unnoticeable until the moment when it's extremely clear what's going on. Any of those high betas is more or less just as fit as the alpha, and with a slight change of circumstance they'll be the alpha. Any one of those betas can absolutely become an alpha. This obsession with extremely rigid Social structures is …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/16 12:31 AM
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The only people who think it's manipulative are crazy bitches with an agenda. There's nothing wrong with approaching women, flirting with them, and leading the interaction to sex. The devil is in the details, but done right no sane person objects to that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 01:33 AM
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Got it. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 12:24 AM
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Hey it's fair my response was a little snarky. What's the theory here - I don't see the connection for lots of AWALT traits. I'm guessing it's something like "women will cheat more because there's more buff red pill dudes seducing them." It's hard for me to put this in a way that's not a caricature.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 10:33 PM
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How does (eg) leadership model of relationships create AWALT women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 09:51 PM
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PUA isn't against feminism. Most PUA materials are apolitical. Some of it is pro-slut, which is technically empowerment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 09:39 PM
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Power talk seems like more trouble than it's worth to consciously learn, I think I do it well enough naturally I'm not big on what you've called the descriptive side (awalt, evolutionary bio, ETC etc). I think it's an interesting framework for viewing the world, but it's only one of many that I use. I think viewing the world through many lenses is a strength, and getting too caught up in one is a weakness. I really really try to avoid running active dread game, because I think it's cruel. But...…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 07:36 PM
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Maybe this is kind of a fringe thought? Hmm... I thought everyone believed this. If you play to expectations people will be okay with it, but if you break expectations people do t like that. So if they expect you to be a dick, and you are, they'll put up with it to an extent. If they expect you to be a nice guy, but then you act even a little bit dickish, they'll come down hard on you Edit; point being: they come down on hard for TRP on Reddit because Reddit is a pretty feminist, liberal place a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 01:11 AM
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My point is that when the fit guy does fitness stuff, nobody is surprised. When Chad does an approach, well of course he did. When people talk about masculinity on bodybuilding.com again no surprise. But when Sally loses 10 lbs, or Mr. Beta Bob does an approach, or redditors talk TRP... They are stepping up and lots of people think "they need to be put in their fucking place."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 11:09 PM
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At my work, I'm the fit guy. Ever since I started here, I've been the most fit guy in the office. I go out and do active things. I share my pictures wth everyone. I'm always tan. So when I lost a few pounds of fat, and then added some muscle, nobody blinked an eye. Meanwhile fat Sally, everyone's eating buddy, drops her weight to 250 and she's getting fit shamed. How do you explain that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 09:01 PM
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Because men don't like promiscuous women the same way women like promiscuous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 05:35 PM
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How do you explain depression if the world isn't too hard? How do you explain anxiety if the world isn't too stressful? Some people just can't handle shit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/16 05:25 PM
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A lot of people here believe asshole game works because they did like 10 years of "nice guy game" and rarely got laid, then went out and did like a month of asshole game and got laid as much as they did the in previous decade
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 11:28 PM
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Google "how to lose weight" Literally hundreds of results But among them you will find a sea of contradictory information, and lots of terrible advice. You'd be much better off googling a specific weight loss plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 06:34 PM
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What do you mean by "date" My idea of a date is like... Have a drink with someone while we flirt and build sexual tension. Then go bang. Yhat can't be what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 05:17 PM
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I have friends who are feminists, all the way to friends who are RP as fuck.I don't think we ever talk about his shit in real life. Our bond is through common hobbies and partying. your version sounds miserable, I'm sorry it's like that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 09:28 PM
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I hadn't thought of that. That's really good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/16 04:02 AM
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It's really hard to believe that anyone could argue this in good faith. If you see an incel guy struggling, it's typically EXTREMELY OBVIOUS that he fails to generate attraction. Not that he doesn't know how to make women stick around once they're hooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 11:01 PM
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Most incel guys would LOVE to get that much attention
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 10:46 PM
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they should have all rights obviously Don't know if it's a choice or inborn. It doesn't really matter to me I think male and female homosexuality are very different things I have gay friends/acquaintances, of both sexes. LTR girlfriend identified as lesbian for a few years growing up but came back to the hetero side before we met I don't really know much about gay culture. Not really that interested
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 10:26 PM
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But the guy is going to fuck the 8 and the 10, because why not? It's not like he has to choose one or the other
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 07:15 PM
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I'm the odd man out here. Socialist, but red pill -ish. It's important to separate economic self interest from personal views on gender/identity politics. If you conflate the two, you're falling for a classic divide and conquer strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 04:31 PM
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If we use the "who fucks who" method of determining SMV, then like half of women become 10s, and "10," our statement of the aesthetic ideal, becomes meaningless. It will refer to both a stunningly beautiful woman and a girl who is just kinda cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 04:10 PM
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I mean I won't buy a girl dinner or anything unless I plan on making her my girlfriend. Dates are usually drinks and some walking around, bouncing back to my house to see "SUPER COOL SHIT OMG" Some people would call that cheap. What's your idea of cheap?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 07:41 PM
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What's the evidence that "being stingy" on dates is a bad strategy? I have treated dates as 50-50 for the past few years, and I'm doing way better now then when I believed that I should pay for dates. In my experience most women either don't care, or respect me for having boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 04:12 PM
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Alpha isn't that rare. We evolved in a tribal group dynamic of about 100-150 people. Every tribe of that size is going to have a leader and a couple other men jockeying for leadership. That's more or less what people call alpha - men of that quality. He doesn't need to be some crazy rare apex alpha to fuck hot bitches
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 03:23 PM
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Can you connect the dots for me? I don't understand what you're trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 07:44 PM
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Everyone works to improve, "naturals" just don't talk about it openly because it's cooler not to talk about it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 04:18 PM
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Great explanation. Since men are the pursuers, a scarcity of healthy-weight women sends the men into hyper competition mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 11:18 PM
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God that sounds so familiar. Well put.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 09:31 PM
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bro, your guesses at my personal life are way off. I'm not even blue pill. I'm guessing you're one of these "anger phase" people? I'm not your enemy bro. Anyway, you seem to be saying that all that a brown guy can ever be is beta bucks, which I believe is untrue. At the end of the day, a man has to play the hand he's dealt and most guys, even brown guys, can learn to make some decent bluffs while holding 2-7 off suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 06:28 PM
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I have my experiences. You don't have to believe them if you don't want to, but I went out and learned game, took my lumps for a couple years, and learned how to do this. This might come as a surprise but this is not the first time some dude on the internet said "that's not possible" or "its 100% looks game doesn't matter." My guess is that 100% of the guys saying that stuff could not stomach a pain period of a couple years, going out and taking brutal rejections all the time to figure out how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 06:03 PM
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Whatever man, youve got an online study. What's the problem with that? A mans presence does not come across much if at all in online dating. I am not going to regurgitate that entire debate because some people are so ready to chalk themselves up as losers and call the fight lost. That really sucks for them. I'm "brown" and I don't make a big deal of it. It will hold you back a bit, but to say that it's going to make you an incel virgin at 25 is just plain bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 05:25 PM
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That just sounds like excuses. Latin men are stereotypically good with women FFS
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 04:58 PM
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The mainstream makes it seem like what I'm doing is extremely rare. In my experience there are tons of people who are open to this, they just don't advertise it too loudly
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 12:13 AM
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This discussion is strictly academic for me -- I would only seriously date a woman who is okay with being the main. Generally boss bitch types who enjoy having some power over the sides. So on the contrary -- for me this sort of thing absolutely is caring for her needs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 09:49 PM
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I really fundamentally disagree about how marriage works. In my view, it wouldn't protect me at all, and I'd be much better off foregoing marriage even with a family. I really can't see how it offers any kind of protection for the man and in all my friends cases it has made things much worse than if they were unmarried
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 08:31 PM
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I get that, but I don't understand why. The side bitches don't get to have me, they just get sex. They won't replace the main, no matter how great they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 08:22 PM
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That's it for me -- I really don't see how marriage is different from living together (aside from the legal gun to my head in case of divorce)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 07:41 PM
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Let's say I have a committed partner and we would like to start a family. What benefits do our children get from us being married, as opposed to simply being a couple?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 07:38 PM
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Women are hypergamous. Men are polygamous. A man will remain loyal if his wife tolerates his side bitches. A woman will just trade up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 05:22 PM
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yeah, I think you're right. Any meaningful deviation from this is probably an outlier that isn't worth worrying about too much. (Unless you think you're it!) Not my best argument
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 03:51 AM
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It's the difference between the high ideals of the leadership and the ideals of its common practitioners. Id argue that a movement should be judged by the latter, especially when the leaders aren't shutting that shit down
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 01:57 AM
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All things equal, the amount of people who would choose an obese partner over a fit partner is extremely low. Basically a few feeders, fat fetishists, and people looking for enablers to their own unhealthy lifestyles. Like if you had a magic button that would make your partner either obese or healthy, no reasonable person would choose obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 12:48 AM
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I've seen plenty of memes on my Facebook suggesting otherwise. You don't get to define what fat acceptance is by simply picking the best examples of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 12:39 AM
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Your second paragraph is way off base. Women are way more selective than men in physical standards. However, a woman also looks at other things beyond physical standards. Whereas a man looks mostly to physical standards with everything else far behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 10:04 PM
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Fat acceptance movement
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 10:01 PM
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I've done 1-2 when I was younger, never 3, probably 4 - it sounds like the same thing as 2. This was all in high school while trying to sound like a badass. These days, I would not discuss this with anyone except close male friends (or random people on the internet lol). I wouldn't lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 06:45 PM
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They are asking individual respondents whether those respondents thought the thing in question was acceptable - either according to the respondent's personal morality or according to a moral code to which the respondent subscribes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 12:01 AM
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I keep my facial, armpit, and genital hair neartly trimmed but present. Think stubble beard or a little longer. Arms and legs just sort of keep themselves a neat length. I pluck my chest hair because it's patchy and weird. Do what works for you, whatever you find pleasing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 10:40 PM
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As a guy who's an 8, I'd expect you can easily bang cool 6s, and you can also find not so cool 9s who'd be down to bang. It will be a challenge to find a cool, LTR-worthy 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 05:31 PM
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Oh. "Guy who can find sex but finds it tough to find a girl good enough to commit to." That sounds pretty typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 03:51 PM
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I don't understand. You're saying you're a guy who has no trouble finding sex, but does have trouble finding commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 03:19 PM
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Yup - no point in playing that game
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 05:07 AM
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This is my problem with identifying as feminist - it isn't even clear what it means. The things people take it to mean are so far apart and contradictory to one another that identifying as a feminist confuses matters more than it clarifies them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 06:02 PM
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RP is a process. You come in as a delicate little flower of a man who has no idea where he is going. You stay on the path of acting hard long enough that you toughen up in certain ways. But it's up to you how long you want to stay on that path. Want to learn to fuck a 9 from the club once or twice? Do it. Want to learn how to do it 100 times? Your call, bro. When you feel like you've been in the path long enough, you can just stop walking it. Going back to being a softie is MUCH EASIER than cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 10:40 PM
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That's how I see it. Also, I can help keep her satisfied (both of us really) by (1) going out and chasing together and (2) bringing women home
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 09:59 PM
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No. Her female body count isn't meaningless, but it's not the same. In some ways, I'm proud of my girl's skills on the hunt. Shes a predator out there, and watching her seduce women is sexy AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 09:52 PM
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Yeah, Im being a little humorous here - less serious points of view teach us something too
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 11:31 PM
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"Dont want"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 06:28 PM
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Further reading: Attached: The New Science of Adult Attachment by Amir Levine
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 06:46 PM
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Not all questions require a deep answer
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 05:19 PM
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Agree it's creepy to approach It's less creepy than alternatives You win by embracing however creepy you are
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 08:43 AM
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Certain beards are edgy Edgy has sex appeal
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 08:42 AM
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Token resistance isn't a no, it's a social game whereby she feels like she is absolved of responsibility for saying yes. I'm not super big on playing games, but some people love it. So it goes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 08:27 PM
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I don't ask; I read context cues. I've done this long enough and I'm not socially retarded so it's not a problem. Also, I use "repeat after me" and dirty talk to obtain affirmative consent before penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 06:36 PM
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How does "be sexy, be nice" take care of her demand for a toothbrush? If demanding a toothbrush and refusing sex on that grounds isn't resistance... what is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 04:08 PM
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Why not? All token resistance is essentially asking for the toothbrush. Lots of them don't sound so ridiculous and if you thought about them logically, they could be real reasons not to have sex (the classic one is, "I've gotta be up early tomorrow.") the thing with these types of expressions is that they aren't objections to the sex, they're just nerves running haywire. Real resistance... She tightens up, she's scared, she isn't physically aroused, stuff like that. I'm not going to force a girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 02:55 AM
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Yeah, see the word "basically"? It's a generalization. I don't think it's literally true in every case, and citing an extreme outlier doesn't somehow prove me wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 10:18 PM
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May be a regional thing as well. Beards are incredibly popular here
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 07:40 PM
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What do you do when she says maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 07:36 PM
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When you're chasing girls you hear this stuff all the time. They become ridiculous. Let me tell you the funniest one I've heard: "We can't do it because I don't have a toothbrush here." "Baby it's cool, I've got extra toothbrushes." swoon I've also had this happen with a contact lens case. Bitches love their toiletries, lol. Anyway the point is, these women aren't thinking logically, they just get a little scared and their mind jumps to some random ass shit as part of the anxiety. If you take ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 07:31 PM
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Maybe so. I'm just spitballing here, these are rough ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 07:17 PM
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The guy is loyal, he just has multiple partners. He's keeping them happy, and they're paired with him
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 07:14 PM
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I think that knowing she is loyal prevents me from feeling a very specific disgust towards her at any age. Like my girlfriend is 22, but I feel more towards her than a random equally hot 22 year old. If she wasn't loyal than I wouldn't feel that, and she'd just be some girl. It isn't the same kind of attractiveness as pure youthful hotness, but it's something. I can't fully put my finger on it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 06:32 PM
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It's an LTR where the man has more than one female partner
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 06:30 PM
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Sounds fun
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 06:29 PM
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citing an extreme outlier (a person with severe deformities) doesn't really prove your point
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 06:28 PM
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Beards are trendy and popular female body hair is like maybe popular in a fringe indie scene and even then not really It's not a good comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 06:27 PM
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Yeah part of it may be that my bar scene sucks. It isn't uncommon to go out and meet one attractive woman all night. Or none.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 05:25 PM
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You people can't be serious. It is not the beard, that's just something this guy is choosing to blame. I have a beard and I do just fine. Most of my friends who are good with women also have beards.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 04:07 PM
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You are totally ignoring that there are different things that make a woman attractive. Basically a woman just has to be not fat and she's there. If a man tries that, it doesn't get him very far. I would bet that those men you linked match with women of significantly higher BMIs than themselves. Men have to do more than not be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 04:27 AM
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It's just monogamy :) like how normies would think of it Emphasis on the bonding together as a pair. Like bonding for life
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 04:03 AM
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Is this a serious question? Or are you being philosophical
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 03:19 AM
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Get a male therapist. Somebody who doesn't look like a wet noodle
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 02:55 AM
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It's because from the guys perspective basically all a girl has to do to be attractive is not eat more than she needs. skinny girls kill it in the SMP So he sees that, tries it for himself, can only get fat girls, he's like "wtf?!?"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 02:50 AM
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Redpill often says that men only value youth. This isn't wholly true. Men also value loyalty. It's why if I think my girl is cheating , she isn't attractive to me in the same way. At that point, she's just some bitch that I'm fucking - she's not "my sweetheart" any more. She could just be lumped in with all the other plates at that point. It's a basic and primal emotion - loyalty stops me from feeling disgusted by her
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 02:42 AM
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It seems like pair bond polygyny is extremely stable, at least for the high value men who can create those situations. It's practically monogamy, from those women's perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 01:30 AM
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What does low FT mean? Googles giving me nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 01:20 AM
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Do fun stuff = cool pictures = cool tinder profile
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 12:16 AM
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I strongly disagree. In my experience I do way better on tinder than going out to my local bar scene. I still go out and do approaches because it's fun to go out and socialize but tinder gets me such more solid numbers from hotter girls it's WAY more efficient Disclaimer - local bar scene here is kinda trashy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 12:15 AM
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Well, I was thinking about the idea of alpha widows but something about it didn't quite make sense. So I sorta spitballed this as a CMV to flesh it out a bit. If you're trying to imply something just come out and say it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 12:47 AM
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So you're saying that alphas are targeting women who have already had kids? In my experience the most desirable women are 18-23 year olds who haven't had kids yet. Not married women who have a couple kids. That seems more like low hanging fruit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 10:41 PM
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I think the flip side is she has a much easier time enjoying the vibe at a time like that whereas for me to get into party mode takes a bit more effort
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 10:06 PM
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If you're self aware, you'll notice when it's taking a toll on you and move on. even if you're not particularly self aware, most people will reach a saturation point where it'll just feel like time to move on. You'll get bored of it and it will start to feel tedious
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 05:52 PM
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Man I was pretty normal when I learned "game" and it was easily a year of serious pain period rejection before it really started to click. In that time though I did have a lot of fun and met a lot of interesting people, men and women that are still my friends today Truth is the only way you'll learn is if you try, have faith in the process over the long term, and push yourself hard but also take breaks when you're overloaded
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 05:13 PM
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I'm imagining this stuff happening in a bar/club environment. Like if some guy games your girl and you angrily storm off to find other girls it's kinda weak I mean it would be even weaker if you cried or something I'm sure you could always find a worse option
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 04:45 PM
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I don't think it's just DNA; a lot of people believe that their particular family culture that they create with their partner and children is a special thing that someone would be lucky to experience
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 04:15 PM
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I mean it's a situation where you gotta keep your cool. If you'd looked at me really closely when I did that, I was a little heated inside but that shit ain't gonna get me anywhere so I put on my best face and took action as best I could
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 03:49 PM
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lol what 90% of it is just making meaningless decisions when either path is going to be suitable but for some reason submissive people wanna fret over every fucking detail
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 03:11 PM
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I assume most guys want to have sex with my girlfriend. She's attractive. Most guys also will let ther intent show. You can read this stuff pretty easily. If they're beta AF, who gives a fuck, she isn't going to touch them. If they're actually cool guys that might game her I'll step in
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 03:05 PM
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A feminine woman is like a sailboat. Her emotions push her here, she goes, her emotions push her there, she goes. More so when she's drunk. It's perfectly normal for a guy to keep a eye on that and make sure she isn't getting carried away in the emotion of the moment. It's not like it always has to be some aggressive mate guarding or crazy confrontation-- a lot of times you can do this in a way that isn't all butthurt and needy. Example: girlfriends birthday, we're a couple drinks in, we had spl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 02:59 PM
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But why would she even put herself or him in that situation. I'm not talking about hanging out alone with dorky guys where he should have nothing to worry about; why would she go hang out alone with the guys who are in competition with her man and who have expressed sexual intent? It doesn't make sense, the only thing that adds up is if she is open to their advances
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 02:49 PM
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Yeah this stuff isn't coming from my friends, I have to gauge what the world is like outside my circle somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 02:43 PM
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But finding another girl can come across super butt hurt too depending on the situation and execution. This is the kind of question where it's hard to give an answer without situational context.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 02:39 PM
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Go look at the Facebook comments on any news story about gender relations. I don't know how to link that, just look for it the next time you run across one ... It's crazy WAWE
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 02:37 PM
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Stuff I read here changes my views all the time I'm not a diehard though so ymmv
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 12:14 AM
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Take your example. More active (I'd say more evil) dread game might be like, she doesn't like you not having a job, and instead of saying she'll leave, she starts flirting with other dudes in front of you, or maybe even dropping hints that she's cheating on you, whatever she can do to humiliate you bc maybe that will put you in your place and you'll do what she says. It's a power game through and through, and power games get abusive on very fine lines. You're right, it is a bit subjective, but w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 09:56 PM
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Dread game can be practiced in a cruel way. It is not necessarily evil, but it's easy to imagine evil applications of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 09:46 PM
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I always thought the resource extraction thing is a human tendency more than anything, but since RP is talking about women, that's who it tells you about. I bet most RPers would say men do the same shit, given the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 09:42 PM
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It makes me wonder if these people are involved in any sort of mainstream social media or polite society at all. Women are wonderful effect EVERYWHERE
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 09:25 PM
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Solid write up, I disagree about the dating advice though. You really don't find this stuff assembled in any coherent way anywhere else. (i.e., masculine polarity, lifting, eating well, style, approaching, etc) I learned this all from friends, then later saw TRP and most of it just seemed like common sense by that point. Is dark triad and ACTIVE dread game considered "core" TRP because that seems like the only really objectionable part.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 09:21 PM
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It's because a lot of bloopers come from a frame of "we know what's best for women." They aren't okay with giving women what they want if what the women want isn't the bloopers' idea of what's best. Red pill says, you're an adult, if you like it when I do x, y, z, so be it. It's not my job to tell you what you should like. Blue pill says, ZOMG NOBODY COULD POSSIBLY LIKE XYZ! EVIL!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 09:04 PM
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I don't like tattoos, I don't understand them. That said I don't care if someone wants to get a tattoo. It's like a neutral thing to me, like wearing baseball caps, or carrying a watch. I don't really assign value to it unless it REALLY stands out in a bad way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 08:53 PM
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"Reformed" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 08:03 PM
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I have a great job, but I have more success going out when I purposefully make my look edgier and trashier. Less boyfriend interest more women thinking about tonite Does that C your V?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 11:13 PM
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I really like to dress preppy, but an edgier look does better with women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 11:11 PM
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Oh. Got it. I thought you were implying there was no way to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 08:51 PM
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I agree with your CMV, baseline for woman to "look good" is ridiculously low. I don't think that's news to anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 07:56 PM
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pem describes the sort of beliefs I was raised with. He's dead on, and captures it better than anyone here. He's not making this stuff up. I'm way past being angry about it, but I can see why so many people are so angry. Getting past all that shit was hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 07:47 PM
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She could get really fit. Even ugly people can look fine if they've got a rockin body
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 07:18 PM
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That's a straw man. Most guys , hell especially incel guys, want to meet a woman for companionship and intimacy as well as sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 07:11 PM
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Guy at the top has a lot of options, whether it's a formal harem or not. Guys are the bottom are competing for scraps, whether formal or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 05:16 PM
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Men 10 - women 8-10 Man 9 - women 6-7 Man 8 - woman 5 Man 6-7 - women 3-4 Man 1-5 - women 1-2
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 04:49 PM
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"You have to work to improve yourself? What a loser!" Stupidest rationale I could imagine for not working to improve yourself. Most successful people have worked on themselves at some point anyway, they just act like they didn't bc it's cooler to be natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 10:06 PM
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When I say I want her to like me for me, I mean physically. I want her to want me, to love me. Maybe a little bit of my general disposition as well, but the physical stuff comes first
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 10:01 PM
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In general, I think so. I've met a few exceptions though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 09:52 PM
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The problem is if you're a guy with a great job, you don't want to be loved for that. You want to be loved for you first, and maybe she finds out all the material stuff later. Younger women are much more willing to love you as you are, and find out the rest later. With women who demand to know right away (generally older women), you never know if they loved you as you were, or if it was just the material stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 09:38 PM
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I guess that makes sense. In my experience though, it's often somewhat of a trade off -- women often sacrifice their spirituality and sweetness to chase material success in their careers. To me, that's an unattractive choice, but I guess not to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 08:35 PM
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What you described sounds like conversation and sense of humor to me. I'm guessing you didn't just shout weird shit and got your dick sucked then and there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 08:29 PM
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Well from you comments it sounds like I should just be looking for career and status and emotional maturity, not sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 08:25 PM
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What? If you're awesome at those things, and not hideous, you will KILL IT, both in SMP and RMP
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 08:05 PM
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Dude Keep some perspective. You have plenty of time. I'm 30 and I have no problem dating girls in their early 20s. It's easier now than when I was your age. Just wait and see.. your competition in the smv is like... Little boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 08:00 PM
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But surely some people are different unique and special, right? I usually date younger women, but recently I met a 28 year old who managed to maintain the sweet attitude most older women neglect. She stood out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 07:57 PM
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If I'm removing sexuality from the equation, why not just marry one of my friends ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 07:47 PM
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I think you've really hit on something there. It isn't even the providing that bothers me, it's te whole materialistic frame that so many older women are coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 07:23 PM
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This is the paradox of young women, and why we like them so much. They're higher value, and yet less demanding about career, job, status, etc. Now they are more demanding about fun, humor, personality, character... But those are also things we'd rather provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 07:08 PM
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When I was a kid it was my dream to have a kids and family but I always wanted to be able to have a phase where I'd meet lots of women, and have adventures and wild times with them. When I sucked at that in high school and college, I got really frustrated. I mean I had some quality LTRs at that time but I wasn't able to go out and kill it like I was by my late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 05:47 PM
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I mean I guess that's a big part of it -- good game looks just like a guy having fun and bringing the girl into that It's only inexperienced men who are gonna be really obviously running a routine, and hopefully they'll get past that quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:27 PM
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What do you mean by PUA type stuff? My idea of pickup is like: go to places where women are, like bars or clubs approach them be flirty, fun, present express sexual intent in a fun way If she thinks I'm attractive it's probably going to "work." But I don't think it's particularly gimmicky. People just market their guides as being like that because it appeals to certain men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 04:46 PM
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I think it's a solid challenge to the idea of alpha widows as presented by RP
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 04:03 PM
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I see guys on here talking about like 10 lays as cock carousel. To me it really doesn't sound like many at all especially over the course of a few years
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 04:02 PM
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Cock carousel. It's a derogatory RP term for female promiscuity
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 04:01 PM
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I'll admit it, I've been on both sides of it. Blowing her away...and not. I prefer a girl that's blown away by me, at least for an LTR. For short term, I don't think anyone cares
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 12:24 AM
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This is an area where I break with RP. For me sex on the first date is a plus for an LTR, as it means she knew she wanted to fuck me right away. She saw me, and she knew that she liked me -- that's good. I don't really care about N count; what matters to me is whether I'm clearly one of the best lays she's ever had.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 10:43 PM
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How can you cheat on someone who isn't your girlfriend and you haven't even fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 10:01 PM
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Eh, I'm reddish purple and I generally refuse to pay. Most women I've met do not have a problem with spending $5-10 for 1-2 rounds of drinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 09:03 PM
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I think it's mostly a challenge to the idea of "alpha widows." In my experience there are plenty of girls that won't be looking back at promiscuity as a lost paradise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 07:47 PM
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3 dates is my limit, obviously it's not all about getting to the vag and I'll only pursue for more than one date if I really like her. Bonus points to girls who sleep with me on the first night. My current LTR started as something we both thought would be a hookup, and I see it as a good thing that she wanted me right away. Back before I got into this... I'd pursue a girl for months and didn't really have any kind of guideline for how quickly sex should happen. I wouldn't pursue a virgin at this…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 07:40 PM
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Because as you experience more people, you get a better grasp on what different people like, desire, want etc, it opens you up to new realms of sexuality. If you fuck one person 1000 times, you usually get a very similar experience every time
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 06:53 PM
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Yeah, of course. That is one of the main qualities I look for in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 04:06 PM
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I posted it in PPD because it is a challenge to a typical RP belief
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 04:01 PM
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I'm not still with every person I've ever been with, no. What's the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 03:59 PM
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Yeah, I guess that's the darker side of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 02:25 PM
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I think as the culture gets more and more casual sex minded, an otherwise chaste girl might be more willing to think ... "Maybe there's something to it. Why are all these other girls doing it? Let's give it a try." And maybe she might look back on that decision with a little regret, but what's done is done.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 02:19 PM
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Because when I was screwing around, I considered hook ups as potentially being LTRs. If it went well, we kept seeing each other, maybe she stands out from the other hookups, I start seeing fewer other girls, eventually it's just her, and were talking about a future together Romantic tale as old as time ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 02:12 PM
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I don't see where you're going with that. Yeah, I started a relationship with one of these girls and we've been together a while now. It's serious and I think maybe we can make it last.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 02:07 PM
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How is it pure RP? I think RP slut shaming is gross
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 05:04 AM
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I object to TRP slut shaming
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 04:05 AM
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I'm intentionally inflammatory on here. It's a debate sub. Anyway, I'm not one of the anti slut people. If you can't tell, I like my women freaky
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 03:50 AM
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Yes exactly. This is a strategy to maximize my returns
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 02:49 AM
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Is it proven causation though, or more of a chicken and egg situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 02:10 AM
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In my experience there are lots of girls who'll Fuck on a first date but aren't like super experienced
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 02:08 AM
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Yeah I'm thinking like girls in the 10-30 N range not like 500
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 01:18 AM
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Only backed up by the number of first night lays that looked at me like I'm a chad. How are these girls gonna think there's some wild sex life awaiting them? I'm it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 12:18 AM
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Yeah, I personally don't use 1-10, for me it's basically would/wouldn't. But trying to convey about where I stand in terms of looks... "I would" isn't very helpful. Your reductionist system seems to be how most people use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 11:11 PM
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Maybe this is reflecting my privilege :) I'm come from a world where most of my friends would say "she's like.. a 6" as a sincere insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 11:01 PM
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I'm not really into virginal type girls. I like degenerate women who will go out to bars and chase pussy with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 10:08 PM
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Why would I want that? That sounds like my current relationship, except I also have freaky wild sex with my partner, and we have threesomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 09:48 PM
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Status can just be something like, I lead a local group for one of my hobbies. I've met women through that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 09:21 PM
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I think it does make a real difference at the margins though. The physical 8.2 who knows how to make her laugh is going to kill it compared to the 8.4 who just sits there or the 8.6 who bitches about everything
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 08:01 PM
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Solid analysis, but, I think you overstate looks a bit. A guy can get ONS based off just decent game, presence, and fun. I'm ugly, like 6-7/10 if I'm very generous, but I do okay in the SMP. I have friends in a similar position. I don't understand why RP overvalued male looks so much. Maybe I'll do a write up on this later..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 06:00 PM
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This would explain why it felt like I'd go on 100 dates and meet 1 girl who seemed appropriate for an LTR I think the overall tone is a bit doom and gloom, but still, pretty good theory
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 04:41 PM
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Somethin somethin 80/20 ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 09:29 PM
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Yeah, when you feel bad about the shit performance you've given (by your own standards), and she's still gushing about it. That ones a trip.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 09:22 PM
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I mean - can't you guys tell? To me it's usually pretty obvious whereabouts I rank in a girl's sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 09:05 PM
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Have you ever had sex with someone who's clearly had better than you? Sure, it's fun, but you know you ain't gonna keep her happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 08:49 PM
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Agree. I've never understood RP's obsession with sluts. As long as you can tell you're the best she's had, or thereabouts, who gives a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 08:47 PM
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I disagree. "Had sex with me very early on" is one of my relationship qualifiers. I want women who knew they wanted me from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 08:42 PM
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Where are you getting all this stuff about anal? The prompt was whether men should get pegged in order to understand the experience of penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 06:12 PM
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RP advocates that if they aren't looking for a wife. They'll pursue the chaste woman when ready for LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 05:56 PM
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It seems like you don't understand LMR. LMR isn't a hard no. The best advice for a hard no is to stop. Nobody is saying to ignore hard no's and rape women. LMR is about the soft no. When you seduce a woman, you get little soft no's all the fucking time. They aren't a big deal, and she doesn't want you to stop. She wants you to slow down and win her over better.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 05:01 PM
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I'm not into anal. Women ARE better evolved to be vaginally penetrated. You can't be seriously arguing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 04:52 PM
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This just in, life is different for men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 03:36 PM
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I'm not into anal. I don't think there's any way I can understand firsthand what vaginal penetration feels like.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 03:35 PM
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That thread is pretty bad. I feel like I'm reaching my saturation point on all this gender war stuff. So toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 09:59 PM
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you're going to get a lot of pressure to get into a relationship, probably from high quality women. Take care not to do that before you're really ready for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 04:48 PM
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Sounds like you've got it spot on to me. I especially agree about taking care not to spend too much time in the pillosphere. I generally limit my interaction with this type of material to a couple weeks, before disengaging for at least 2-3 months. Too much of this stuff will turn you into a weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 04:40 PM
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Yeah, this is where I'm at with it. It's more about how she wants to go out than whether she does it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 04:08 PM
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I do trust my girlfriend but... Are you familiar with the concept of "sub space"? It's when someone gets into a submissive state, they can more or less be led along with the proper instruction. You just give them whatever commands and they do what you say. It's almost like a form of hypnosis. If you're good at this, it isn't toooooo hard to put girls into a submissive state like that. You'll definitely see it happen from time to time. Now back to the question. Do I trust anyone when they're in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 03:55 PM
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Depends what she's like. I've met a woman who said she was a virgin in a nightclub and I believed them. Her mannerisms were closer to those of a little girl than to your common club rat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 03:30 PM
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Sounds like the kinds of things said by extremely solipsistic men. Like they don't even realize she exists in her own reality. shrug those guys aren't me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 10:53 PM
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in my experience there are certain women who will buy you stuff to get closer to you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 10:46 PM
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what are you on? Men have to be ultra trusting, because their partners (aka women) have the option of discrete sex at basically any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 10:43 PM
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Why do you think men don't have orbiters? it happens man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 10:39 PM
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There is a basic threshold up until which you will see very little ROI from learning game. In fact, things might even get a little worse. At the threshold, the benefits will be huge. Beyond the threshold, you will see severely diminishing returns. It's every mans choice how far along that path he wants to go
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 07:51 PM
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Here we go: I've never been able to be monogamous. It took me until my late 20s to just be upfront about it, and keep partners who were satisfied with being "the main chick." I've done comfort tests when I was younger, but as I've grown, I don't anymore. Shit testing..? gross. I wanted to meet one girl and get married and live happily ever after. But living it... I realized I needed variety. everyone can be solipsistic at times I used to make the fundamental attribution error a lot. I'm doing be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 05:41 PM
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Exactly, I'm looking at 2% chance of pregnancy over the course of a year, or a 4% chance of pregnancy. One for an activity that resembles sex, and one for an activity that is sex. Also, I only do this with my main, so disease isn't an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 09:15 PM
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Right, I meant at the beginning. At the early stages I'll always get affirmative verbal consent. It's not that I think there's any confusion, it's that I think it's safest for me. Also it's pretty hot to make her say it :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 08:47 PM
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Nah, pull out with the main chick, condoms with everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 08:42 PM
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Oh. But they are working. No pregnancy. It doesn't matter. This ones a keeper and I'd start a family with her if that's the path life takes us. It'd be sooner than we'd prefer, but that's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 08:39 PM
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I don't get the joke
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 08:27 PM
2

typical use? What, am I not going to realize I busted a nut? I put a condom on when it's time to bust
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 08:08 PM
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I'm just gonna throw this out there: Pull out method has nearly the same pregnancy rates as condoms. I practice pull out method with my main, and use condoms with everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 08:02 PM
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My aversion to pegging is not just the physical act of anal sex. I don't want my partner to be engaged in that sort of power dynamic with me either. I see those two things as distinct. Maybe I would understand the other side of penetration, the other side of the power dynamic better if she pegged me, however, I believe our power dynamic would also be destroyed by the act. It would mean killing the relationship basically just to prove a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 07:37 PM
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Not even repeat after me? It's hard for me to imagine getting in my head while she's doing that. For me it's a huge power trip.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 07:17 PM
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I would argue that I already understand the gravity of the situation, and that this is a place where I'm okay learning second hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 07:14 PM
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I identify and sympathize with incels because I had a dry streak that lasted for a few months in my late 20s. Before that I'd done okay with women, had a couple solid relationships but it was all very provider based. I didn't know how to attract women. At any given time, I knew if my relationships ended that I was going to be in a world of hurt. Anyhow, I had a long dry spell. That's what drove me to learn game, that's what got me reading manosphere and pillosphere type things. I was in a desper…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 07:11 PM
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Inspirational
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:24 PM
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You can't be serious. My baby girl is not going to penetrate me. Look, I understand that penetration might not always be pleasant. I do what I can to take good care of my lovers. I didn't need to get fucked in the ass to understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:01 PM
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A lot of my early life, I didn't understand relationships, but I still blindly found my way into some pretty good ones. Late 20s, had a dry spell of a few months, realized I had to work on this area of my life a bit. looking for advice was a nightmare. It was a mix of these weird bits of non-advice, and people giving really bizarre personal theories of how attraction works. I was ready to take a hard look at myself and work on myself, but not many people want to deal with a guy going through tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:45 PM
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I always get verbal consent via dirty talk and/or repeat after me. I don't understand why people wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:12 PM
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I believe we do need change, but it's not within my power to bring them about. When someone has a concrete plan I'll be all about it. I'm not taking the lead on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:10 PM
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It's interesting to me, because in my view, a lot of good "game" can come from a very genuine place. it's just that it's spiced up in these fun little ways that make it feel like something more than résumé-sharing. That's beautiful what you said about your husband. It sounds like qualification to me. It doesn't have to be an opener or even something that you say right away. It might be really anything that you truly appreciate about someone. What sets them apart. I guess the social-psych side of…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:44 PM
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Absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 07:44 PM
1

I doubt we've got many club rats on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 07:38 PM
1

It's interesting how you comment on the obsession with looks. I didn't learn "game" from red pill. I learned it from PUA-minded friends. One of the best things they taught me is to learn to identify and express what I love about a girl's personality. They call it "qualification," but it's really just getting good at explaining to a woman why you like her. At its best, it comes from a genuine place of appreciation for her. I'm not sure if that's a part of what RP is teaching in game. Doesn't seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 07:37 PM
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I'm 30. It seems like a lot of people my age have lost touch with their "inner child." They seem very caught up in acting so old. Dwelling on their responsibilities non-stop. I wonder if they remember how to let loose. I wonder if they are able to see the world with fresh eyes anymore. And maybe some of it is defensiveness, but they can be quite condescending. Usually, when I'm able to share a moment with them, where we just see a little bit of silly fun in life.. they enjoy it for a second, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 07:28 PM
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It's funny you say that, because I see the plague as all these people who have lost all sense of childlike wonder, don't get me started on their superiority issues...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 07:16 PM
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basically when I go to the ballot, I have a few binary choices to make. If you're talking about grand, system level change, that's beyond what I'm going to commit myself to, especially without a clear action plan of what we're trying to do and how we will get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 06:46 PM
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What benefit, other than taxes, do I get out of this marriage that I can't have without marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 06:05 PM
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How much do I need to know to be an informed voter? When an election is coming, I discuss with issues and choices with well-informed friends whose values I trust. Elections come maybe once a year (sometimes less). I am able to get enough info to make an educated decision without staying on top of the day-to-day miniutaie
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 05:52 PM
3

The shelter needs warm bodies to do work, not someone to chat them up about current events.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 02:45 AM
3

Did you learn that there are homeless people and that high school students need help from the news?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 02:33 AM
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I volunteer seasonally with a program that helps high school students, and quarterly for a homeless charity. I'll also help with other random events now and then. I consider that doing my part, and it's far more than most people do. I don't need to watch the news to get involved. This mostly comes from my social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 02:25 AM
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lol Don't talk down to me. I'm involved in my community. More issues here than I can deal with already. Burdening myself with other communities problems is counter-productive. I find it very hard to believe that anyone could actually put all that information to good use.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 02:17 AM
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A lot of them are. I constantly see them fretting over flavor-of-the-week news that they probably won't even remember in 6 months time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 02:06 AM
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Well if you're doing something about it, I'd imagine you'd be engaged with the material in a different level than just the evening news. In my opinion, if something truly important happens in the world, I'll hear about it from friends or family. I have friends and family whose values I trust in helping me to form opinions about the world. I don't find it necessary to spend 30-60 minutes a day accumulating this information, as the vast majority of it is useless. I notice that people who spend so …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 01:54 AM
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Thinking about celebrities has the same level of usefulness as being informed about news topics that you will never interact with. They're both forms of useless information. What good is it to know all that information if you aren't doing anything about it? For all the average person's knowledge of current events, they're acting on it as much as I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 01:42 AM
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What good is all that thinking? It just creates drama in your mind over situations that you cannot control. It just promotes needless anxiety. In my opinion, you'd be better off ignoring the news completely, and instead spending the time walking your dog. But reading some basic tips about photography (art, albeit admittedly not high art) is still way more productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 01:28 AM
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Got it. Basic tips about style, fashion, and sex are somehow less useful than stories about fraud on Wall Street and serial killers 500 miles away.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 01:19 AM
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One might say that it's worse to excessively consume news media, when you're in no position to act on any of the information contained therein. At least Cosmo is giving these people information that actually applies to their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 01:02 AM
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I don't buy her anything until after we've had sex. Not a hard rule but a guideline. Chivalry ... lol Why would anyone get married? Maybe id have kids, if that's where life takes me. Support all three, but serious reservations about the death penalty. Just date? Sure, why not. Yeah, although I'm of mixed ancestry and I generally prefer women of those two ethnicities. I slightly prefer that she care for the kids. I don't have a problem with it per se, but any person who is married to their job is…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 12:52 AM
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Attractive is assumed, so I don't really count that. When I was learning "game" one of the best things I did was to make a list of the non-physical qualities that I was looking for. For me: adventurous loyal / commitment minded intelligent artistic or crafty low maintenance Since then, I've added: likes to chase women with me. Preferably: fucked me the first nigh we met. I want someone who had a pure carnal desire for me. I break away with red pill on the whole slut thing. I'm ok with a wild sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 10:06 PM
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Law is one of the most tied-to-a-location jobs that you can get
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 09:56 PM
2

Anytime you are successful at anything, you're going to have haters. Their reasons have no substance; they're just a bunch of rationalizations for their jealousy. Once you start seeing this play out in real life, it's pretty easy to laugh at or even along with your haters. This usually makes them more angry, which in turn is even more funny :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 08:56 PM
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I post pictures of me doing fun stuff. One way you could put it is that I'm fishing for likes. Another way you could put it is that I'm sharing cool pictures with friends and acquaintances. It's an honest motivation of mine that some people will see those and say "that's inspiring, I'd like to get out and do something like that.." TL;dr sure I like getting likes but it's not my only reason for posting things. Welcome to the world of multiple causal factors
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 08:48 PM
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Yeah, definitely. My issue is more subtle than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 07:12 PM
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Yeah that's kinda my fear, is that I'm going to do it in a totally uncalibrated way or something. Usually if my girlfriend is winging with me, she'll say something like "grab her already!!" If she's reading the signs and I'm missing them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 06:57 PM
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You have to escalate / create a physical interaction at some point or it won't go anywhere. Some of my friends are pretty good at it, my girlfriend is pretty good at it. I'm mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 06:54 PM
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I suck at aggressive behavior. It mostly doesn't work for me, or it only works on a particular kind of woman. Illustrative example: my dance floor game sucks. I have some hang ups about just grabbing girls, and I haven't practiced it enough to where I'm socially calibrated in grabbing randoms. Not sure I feel like going through that particular pain phase when I can do fine in daygame or bars.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 02:54 AM
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I only did PUA seriously for about a year.. To be honest at that point my "game" was already where i wanted it to be in terms of effort:reward. Could I have kept at it another year and been banging 10s nightly in Vegas? Who knows? That wasn't really my goal. I just wanted to socialize enough to have a satisfying sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 02:48 AM
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They come to the red pill looking for the magic pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 02:46 AM
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"Difficulty with women" is tough to define: Example: keeping a rotation. Sounds like a dream to a lot of men. Truth is, it's a lot of work. It's incredibly difficult to deal with all the drama, give them enough attention, keep them happy-ish, etc. I'm not some superstar who can keep all those girls happy easily- for me, that's a lot of work. I'd rather have a steady girlfriend and chase a bit on the side (she's into that, it's not cheating) My game will probably never be like, walk into a club, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 02:43 AM
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What I'm saying is that the statistics miss a significant minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 11:47 PM
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just because you don't know them means they don't exist? My girlfriend is 22. Some of her friends are dating guys in late 20s or early 30s. Most of my friends date girls in their early 20s. It doesn't seem so rare to me..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 11:23 PM
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my experiences are the same as all my single friends. We're doing much better now than in our early 20s, with girls of a wide range of ages. i don't know why you assume I'm writing you off; I'm sure that there are circles full of young girls who don't date older men. Likewise, there are circles full of young girls who do date older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 11:19 PM
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I'm guessing if you sat these women down and asked them about it, they'd probably give you a similar response. When she's out drinking, she probably isn't thinking about it that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 10:54 PM
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Different groups of people would be my guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 10:51 PM
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The women I meet at bars and clubs aren't on okcupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 10:50 PM
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We ignore what they say and pay attention to what they do-- And for a lot of us, our experience is that young women are hooking up with us way more now that we're older.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 10:24 PM
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Yeah, I've come to realize that stuff is fine and is just part of joking around. But in my pure religious (blue pill?) upbringing ... Only assholes did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 12:20 AM
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Well, if your tease is like "you're a real piece of shit, aren't you?" I was raised in a religious family so maybe I'm conflating religion with blue pill, but to me "being nice" means never saying stuff like that ..to anyone, not even joking. Now it seems trivial to say something like that but 10 years ago I wouldn't... It seemed so mean!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 11:06 PM
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I'm not really RP so maybe I'm not the best person to speak on this. I think there's a kernel of truth in RP, but a lot of guys have a tendency to stack RP concepts in ways that go way overboard and it just becomes...weird. here's an example, a bit of a caricature to make a point: teasing as flirting I might give a little tease here and there a couple times to spice up an otherwise typical conversation. A guy who is over applying this stuff might never answer a question in a straightforward way,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 10:35 PM
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The thing with a lot of the RP tactics is that if you incorporate them into an otherwise healthy life, your "game" becomes like 99% blue pill steak with 1% red pill spice. It doesn't look like some crazy dominant masculine machine. It looks like a normal guy. He won't be thinking about all this shit all day, he'll just drop little bits of it in places where it fits naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 10:14 PM
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The RP ideas of what feminists are like in the bedroom are laughable. That said, so are femme-sphere ideas of what RP guys are like in the bedroom. They're both silly caricatures. There are plenty of normal people in both pills and spheres.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 10:07 PM
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21 , only counts actual PIV sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 08:46 PM
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It's interesting that you say "escapist." That made me really think about what I consider my real life. For me, the office is just a place where I go to make money. I don't really think about it at all when I'm not there. I don't really talk about it with my friends. For me, the real life is the stuff I'm doing outside of work. (I lead a local recreational group, I'm socially active, I have some creative hobbies, etc.) I really would only select a partner who could keep up with that stuff, but a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 06:21 PM
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Yes! Anti complacency as well. Always working to improve. My GF understands it, and that's all that really matters. She's the only person really in a position to judge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 05:56 PM
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All women are a break from my normal life. If I want to talk about work, I'll talk to my coworkers. I don't go to bars and clubs for shop talk, I go there to have fun. (My GF and I rarely discuss our work life. Our time together is more about spiritual fulfillment than our jobs.)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 04:07 PM
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I think there's some truth here, but the "because he's not doing well with women his own age" is off base. All things equal, im going to approach the cute 22yo before I approach the woman my age (30 yo). So approaching the woman my own age is going to be the approach that reflects earlier failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 03:58 PM
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Nope. That's why one of my criteria for a partner is that she likes to chase with me as a couples activity. Satisfies our needs for variety, but keeps it within the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 03:30 PM
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That's one that definitely confused me in the whole thing. Orgasm alone doesn't make for good sex. Sometimes it's pretty bad but I still have an orgasm...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 03:26 PM
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You know - for sex to be completely emotionless is something I don't understand, but I've heard enough people say it that I've started taking it at face value. It seems insane to me but hey maybe that's some peoples reality
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 03:19 PM
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Agree 100%, I honestly don't understand why people wait so long to have sex. IMO you want to find out if you're compatible ASAP
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 11:27 PM
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Well that's exactly the problem. You can't know these things until you have sex. So you'll probably end up having some bad sex just to find out if someone is a good sex partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 10:58 PM
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This I don't know. I don't do it. If a girl was like "let's just fuck right now" I'd generally say no (but there are times I'd be up for it.) It's hard to calculate and exact effort:reward on that one
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 10:38 PM
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I agree that they exist, but they're not going to say "wow what good sex" after they finish inside some dirty stinky sloppy vag
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 10:17 PM
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You've made a good point and maybe it does change my view a bit. But I still don't think I'm an outlier. Most men don't want to just fuck any hole. And even if they did, most men don't want holes that stink, taste nasty, etc. I agree that you won't find out until you're doing it. But that doesn't make it moot. That just means you won't know until you've already fucked. It can still be good sex or bad sex regardless of when you realized it was good or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 10:15 PM
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Hmm. Yeah I think I already agree as far as that part goes. Men can generally have satisfactory sex without the emotional connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 10:11 PM
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I don't understand - you literally said "there's nothing good about being a woman except being sexy looking. Sexy goes away eventually so the only thing we can do is to become as similar to men as possible...."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 08:48 PM
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My SO gets quite a bit of hate for our relationship - from both sides. She gets people who want us to be more traditional (why aren't you married yet? When are the kids coming?) and from well meaning liberals who don't understand our relationship style and think she's some kind of servant. Luckily, she knows how to politely tell people to mind their own business. She's got a pretty strong personality, and they generally respect her even if she tells them to fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 06:02 PM
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You have a very narrow definition of femininity. I love that my girlfriend is: -adventurous -artistic -spiritual -inspirational -comforting All in ways that men aren't. You might think these things are worthless shit, but she loves them. I love them. These are things that will not fade with age if she continues to cultivate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 05:07 PM
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The genuine "nice guy" strategy works OKAY for attracting boring, mousy, and religious women (and even then, it takes forever). I attracted some quality women like that earlier in life. Here's the problem: you might be out on your ass for months playing that slow game. You might be in between girls for months. Who wants to wait that long? You can have way more success being aggressive, vulgar, and degenerate. Those things are NOT NICE, but they will get you plenty of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 08:56 PM
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I tend to view TRP as gender neutral. It's really talking about strategies for masculine types. It'd be a great strategy for a masculine woman who wanted to pursue feminine men, for example. thus, not sexist at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 08:31 PM
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Why do you think it's so unrealistic? I have friends who have gone out to bars and clubs 4-5 nights a week for the past 10 years. It's more or less trivial to meet 50 women in that amount of time..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 08:10 PM
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The flirting/be cool dating strategy is "purple pill." Its pretty exclusively found in male spaces. Straight "blue pill" is like... Be yourself/just be nice. Lifting is also more or less blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 08:03 PM
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Bisexual girls are much more likely to understand and appreciate the burden of performance, because they've chased women before.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 05:55 PM
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You say it like they don't!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 05:54 PM
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30 years old. N-count is 21. That doesn't include bjs, hjs, or any of that. I've only kept track of actual sex. I've been in a couple LTRs - each 5 years. My n-count was 4 when a buddy pushed me to work on my "game" a couple years back. Today I'm in an LTR with far and away the highest quality woman I've ever been with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 05:25 PM
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I'll tell her something like, "I'm just not feeling it." In my experience, telling her outright "the sex wasn't very good" isn't going to be helpful. She'll just get upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 02:57 PM
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Sometimes you really like a girl, but you just aren't sexually compatible with her. That's most of my partners. I'm not going to keep calling her when there's not a promising sexual future between us.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 02:52 AM
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Re productivity and wage growth: bullshit http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/02/why-the-gap-between-worker-pay-and-productivity-is-so-problematic/385931/ http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/09/08/inside-the-fight-over-productivity-and-wages/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 03:42 PM
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