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"What is the solution to this??" Is she stupid? Women will do anything but hold themselves accountable lmao. This guy was able to get 150 dates, not because of men, but because of women swiping on him. Who is the problem here? Who needs to fix their actions? Sounds like another case of virtue signaling and acting like she actually cares, but she'll probably keep dating tall white chads
/r/AllPillDebate14/12/22 02:51 AM
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My cousin constantly brags about how her boyfriend is apparently 6’2. It’s just unbelievably cringe to me. Bragging about something that he did nothing for. Imagine if a guy bragged about how his girlfriend is only 110 lbs, or has an hourglass figure or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:00 AM
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I have bad news for you buddy. It really does pain me to break your little bubble. The only thing you have going for you is you’re probably conventionally attractive. And good for you. I mean even though you did nothing to deserve it, you should thank your parents. You don’t have a winning smile or a good personality or anything else that you tell yourself so you can sleep at night. You just don’t. It’s called the halo effect - look it up. Again, a big congrats to you on winning the generic lott…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:38 PM
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I definitely agree. I feel like we men are much easier to understand in terms of what attracts us. There really aren’t many different beauty standards for women. But for men, a lot of different types exist. Like k-pop guys are the recent trend for a lot of young girls to obsess over, yet these guys are not muscular or tall or whatever. I think women are very much dictated by what society tells them. It’s also why Eurocentric standards are still upheld. Because for years and years all these girls…
/r/AllPillDebate09/12/22 03:27 AM
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Great word choice; I completely agree.
/r/AllPillDebate09/12/22 01:18 AM
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That’s because men are desperate for sex. I doubt those guys are looking for an LTR with those women.
/r/AllPillDebate09/12/22 12:28 AM
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What does this mean?
/r/AllPillDebate08/12/22 11:46 PM
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You need a decent jacket most days, hard to see anything under that. Broad shoulders, maybe but I doubt it. Height you can see
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:11 PM
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Not if you live in nyc. It’s cold most of the time so you have to wear layers and no once can see how fit you are. Only matters if you are visibly obese
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 05:03 PM
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Cause everybody sleeps with everybody here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 04:09 PM
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I would be considered extremely well off by most standards (quant at a hedge fund in NYC, 7 figure income), and all I want in a partner is someone who is kind, educated, driven, and responsible. Don’t really care about age or N-count or agreeableness or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 03:27 PM
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There are so many men (mostly from the older generation) that have women do basically everything from them, from cooking, cleaning, to quite literally wiping their ass. I definitely can believe what this psychologist said. But now it seems like the trend is reversed; most young couples consistent of a simp guy that does over and beyond for the girl
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 02:15 PM
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That makes sense, thank you for sharing. Those are all very reasonable standards. I think some of us guys are just disgruntled because we feel like we do meet those standards but aren't really given a chance to show those qualities due to the increasing prevalence of dating apps and a looks-based society. I hope you and your friends find what you are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 11:05 PM
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I'm not blaming your friend, but trying to find a guy that makes 6 figures (top percentile) is a very different situation from an average guy trying to go on a date with any woman that has a working pulse (100% of women). You using that as an example of how women "struggle" too is hilarious. A lot of times when women complain about not being able to find a good guy, it's very hard for me to sympathize with them because I know that it's because they want X, Y, and Z in their partner, all of which…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 10:22 PM
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I don't think I mentioned a single thing about relationships in my original comment. In fact, your comment proves my point when you said "no trouble having sex if I really wanted to". To most guys, this is absolutely mind-blowing. Imagine it not only being extremely tough to get into a good relationship, but also to have sex. Basically, you are not even a participant in the dating market. When you mentioned your med school friend not being able to find a "decent" guy...what does that mean? Becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 09:56 PM
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Well unfortunately I'm not attractive or particularly charming, but I appreciate the information. I definitely do get what you mean though. I'm just not conventionally attractive so it would be tough to fight against any initial impressions or stereotypes a cold approach would give way to. I think my best chance would be to become friends with a woman and then show my personality that way, and try to avoid the friend zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 08:10 PM
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Where exactly? I’m open to suggestions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 07:39 PM
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I have high school friends but it's all guys and 1 girl. The girl has been in a relationship for years now, and only one guy out of 8 is in in a relationship. He keeps it very private...I haven't even met her yet
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 07:05 PM
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I wish people emphasize more about how impossible it is after college to meet women lol. I probably would've put more effort into dating and meeting people during college. Oh well
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:50 PM
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I don't have any or know any, and I have no idea where to meet any. Anyway, seems like thats friendzone 101. As a guy in STEM field, it's basically been a sausage fest for me since college. I work with 99% men, and it seems like most meet-up groups are also 99% men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:32 PM
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This is just completely and patently false. Men have low standards today when it comes to not just attractiveness, but really anything to do with women. Why? Because we are simply not the choosers here. Most of us take what we can get and then settle with it. It's become way too competitive. As long as a given woman weighs less than 400 pounds, she will most likely have no trouble finding a partner. The same cannot be said of men. You should clarify in your post that you are specifically talking…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:23 PM
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Why are you so mad lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 04:51 AM
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I see. That’s a great attitude. Hope you find what you’re looking for
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 02:56 AM
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I’ve heard great things about stoicism, definitely wanna read this at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 02:32 AM
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Nice. What platform do you play on? Yeah I feel that. For me, the biggest regret I’ll have is not being able to give my parents grandchildren - they were great parents to me and I feel bad cause I know they wanted grandchildren. Luckily I have my sister though lol. Maybe she can take over for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:50 PM
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As many times as my refractory period would allow for
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:29 PM
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Just quit. Go next. Juice is not worth the squeeze whatsoever. For the men who’ve quit, what books are you reading right now? Or tv shows you watch? Looking for some new stuff to get into
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 08:24 PM
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In the current climate, it’ll always be her word over his. I personally wouldn’t risk cold approaching because there’s always that 1 in a 100 psycho girl. Also good for that European guy, but that’s exactly what I mean. At this point I just assume any semi-attractive girl is smashing some European guy that I can’t compete with. And in terms of fear and insecurity, that’s really what influences most humans. Most women don’t realize how awful rejection feels. Even more so as a guy because you’re o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 06:11 PM
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Scenario: I approach an attractive woman. Pros: .0001% chance I get a first date Cons: Possibility of being accused of harassment good chance she has a boyfriend good chance she is in a “situationship” good chance she’s got at least a couple orbiters maybe she wants to stay single because women have much stronger social support systems then us chance of getting recorded and put on tiktok and humiliated by millions of ppl for perpetuity
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:58 PM
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Hmm 45% is a lot but maybe that’s good. Already overpopulation tbh. At least more cats will be adopted
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 05:46 PM
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Well this just made me feel a lot worse lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:07 AM
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Is this in the US? Where did you get this data? This seems way too high
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 07:00 AM
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But then what’s the point of doing anything? What’s the point of getting up in the morning? Going to work? Making friends? If we’re just going to die at the end of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:48 AM
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Yeah, I’ve been doing a basic skincare routine. Wash my face daily, put on sunscreen spf 30, then a retinol cream, then vitamin C, also exfoliate at least once a week. I’ve been doing it for a month, and idk if I see a difference but my skin is smooth and clear. Definitely don’t have a unibrow or anything. I don’t think I’m ugly or anything, just very unremarkable. Especially being in NYC there are literally model-looking guys here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:44 AM
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That’s part of my argument though. That objectively good guys are screened out because of their looks. You might interpret that as whining but a lot of other people rebutted it and I’m learning from others
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:27 AM
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I didn’t mean to whine. I flaired the post CMV because my view rn is that most women will write men off based off of only their looks despite them having other great qualities, and I wanted to read some answers that might change my view
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:14 AM
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I think I just want to at least brighten my skin. I think dark skin can be beautiful but mine is very dull and it hides my features, especially in pictures
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 06:07 AM
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No I don’t approach women until I see any sort of sign of attraction and it hasn’t happened yet. Or else I’d feel like I’m just bothering them. Cold approaches are a big no these days anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 04:36 AM
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Yes, I’m starting to feel the resentment myself. I’m trying my best to fight against it but every year it gets bigger and bigger. But the difference is rather than show it outright I’ve actually been pulling in more and more, just doing activities by myself and not really going out anymore because it’s too depressing seeing all the beautiful rich people all coupled up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 04:33 AM
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Well I’m already super dark skinned and that’s been one of my insecurities, trying to do the opposite of tanning rn lol. Thank you this comment actually means a lot to me. I know this post may have come off as whiny but I’m just sort of disappointed ig. Wish I wasn’t sold lies throughout my childhood from my family, adults, movies, songs, books, etc. I really wish I could just be asexual so I could focus on my career, hobbies, my dog, etc. but every once a blue moon I do still get upset about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 04:29 AM
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Not really a competition lol. STEM nerds aren't getting jack shit, there's nothing to "compete" about
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:05 AM
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You most definitely will end up as a human wallet lol. I agree with the rest of what you said. I’d rather be rich and sad than broke and sad. I was feeling lonely today so I went to a nice restaurant and watched a movie at a luxury theater, the ones with nice seats and a button to call for service..and instantly felt better. Money is independence and freedom. I would feel much worse if I wasn’t high-earning, but at the same time I worked extremely hard for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:53 AM
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Sure, but there are still millions of Asians in the US. I would probably be able to connect with them more
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:50 AM
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I’m Asian but I was born and brought up in the US; I can only speak English.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:39 AM
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Money does not matter whatsoever until you get past the looks barrier. The vast majority of guys don’t get past that. So does it even really matter at that point??
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:27 AM
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Because I would have little to nothing in common with that person, there would most likely be a language barrier, and she would just be using me. I might as well just visit a prostitute, it’s probably cheaper and takes less time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:26 AM
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If I can’t smash now what’ll change in 5 years lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:36 AM
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I’m 5’10 so a bit short where I live. I’d say I’m average to slightly below-average looking
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 01:36 AM
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6’3 is extremely tall. I meant like 5’1 woman with a 6’0 guy. Also your 5’10/5’11 brothers are avg
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:35 PM
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No, I was asking software engineers how they portray their title on LinkedIn, I never once said I was a SWE myself. I was formerly a SWE just a year ago so I still feel close to the community, and a lot of what I do as a quant dev is similar to engineering. Also, I don’t understand why once you make over a certain amount, you can’t go on Reddit anymore?? There are certainly tons of millionaires that are on here, lurking. I work at Citadel a a quant dev, if you want I’m more than happy to provide…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 08:55 PM
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Do they live with their parents?? I find this extremely hard to believe if they live in a HCOL place on their own. Rent, taxes, living expenses will eat into most of their salaries, and most young people are only making like 50k
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:50 PM
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To an actual introvert, that sounds exhausting. The thought of having to socialize with other people for an extended period of time sounds terrible. I'd rather read a book, watch a movie, or just code. Isn't that the hallmark of an introvert? I can socialize when I need to, but I'd rather not
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:35 PM
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This is why you don’t listen to what women say, you look at their actions. The truth is, option 2 sounds better in theory and on paper. But how the he’ll can women even see the option 1’s irl?? These guys are like the millionaires next door. You’d never know about them because they live frugally. The guys that catch women’s eyes are the ballers that spend money. I live well below my means and no one has any idea how much I make, but I like it that way. The drawback of course is that I’m not goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:10 PM
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I have a friend who does extremely well on the apps that I'm on. Only major difference between our profiles is that he's 6'0+ and looks like Chris Evans lol
/r/AllPillDebate24/11/22 01:11 AM
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I do like board games so I'll try to find a meetup for that. Also have always wanted to sign up for a cooking class. Yes you are right, 4 million women in NYC so (hopefully) some of them are open to dating men of my race. Thank you for the advice, I really appreciate it!
/r/AllPillDebate22/11/22 03:08 AM
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Yeah, I totally understand. I think a lot of attraction comes down to mannerisms as well which ofc can’t be conveyed on the internet. I’ve exclusively just been using apps. My workplace is super male dominated and most of my friends are guys so that hasn’t been exactly helpful lol. That’s interesting. I always thought people want to be other people similar to them, but your comment gives me hope, because personally I’m open to women of any ethnicity.
/r/AllPillDebate22/11/22 12:35 AM
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Yeah, I mean that's the only possible explanation. Maybe I just overrate my looks lol. I barely see truly "ugly" people irl so ig that clouds my own judgement
/r/AllPillDebate21/11/22 12:34 AM
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That's why the internet hasn't been very helpful to me...most ppl that write posts like this have one of the following: poor, extremely unattractive, neurotypical, short, no friends aka super antisocial I'm none of these so that's why I'm just confused
/r/AllPillDebate20/11/22 10:02 PM
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The problem is all my family and friends are here. I feel like I'd be even more depressed than I am right now if I just up and left everything I know for some random ass unknown country.
/r/AllPillDebate20/11/22 10:00 PM
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Well to be fair my cousins are all women, so ig not a fair comparison. Attractive? No I wouldn't say so, but I don't think I'm ugly at all. Just a very...forgettable face if that makes sense. But tons of "average" people are able to get dates so I must be ugly?
/r/AllPillDebate20/11/22 09:59 PM
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Nope, I'm neurotypical, no autism or aspergers or anything....I know it sounds weird and probably hard to believe, but I have no problem socializing with and meeting new people. I just don't really know how to flirt because I've always just focused on education/career and I've always been surrounded by men (as a math major in college and now was a quant)
/r/AllPillDebate20/11/22 09:58 PM
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Do you think I should stay single, or is that worse than beta bux? I really don’t want to be used
/r/AllPillDebate20/11/22 07:10 PM
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300-400k?? There are 21 year old that earn more than that. I think OP is talking about minimum 1M+ per year income, if not 5-10M annually. Below that, money doesn’t matter at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 10:47 PM
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How is it that seemingly every women here out-earns their husband? What happened to the wage gap?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 12:01 PM
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Just because someone makes a lot of money does not make them “snobbish”…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:30 AM
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Do wealthy men want to marry you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:29 AM
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Income is extremely overrated. Unless you are pulling 10M+ a year it’s not gonna matter whatsoever. I wish I spent more time maxing other things
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:45 PM
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Respect for my mom, although already super high before, grew a hundred times bigger
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 09:59 AM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:42 PM
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My point was that I think confidence is super overrated if you have nothing to back it up with. And you are completely right - you would anyway only get the attention of some trailer trash woman with God knows how many different diseases. Totally not worth it. Juice not worth the squeeze
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:34 PM
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No auto mod, so I’ll just say that I love the double standard of: women spreads her legs for every Chad? She was just finding herself man focuses on himself and other aspects of life so doesn’t get any until his 30s? HUGE red flag, avoid this loser
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 01:47 PM
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The women here are a total joke. Go marry the 5’0 balding janitors with a good personality you say you like so much. What’s that? You’re already married? And he happens to be a 6’2 white collar worker?? Oh, interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 01:42 PM
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You could be the best salesman, but if your product sucks, no one is gonna buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 01:39 PM
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Very good chance they are lying. In my experience, most guys add a minimum of 2 inches to their height, or use some bogus loophole like reporting their height in shoes with a heel lmao. I’m 5’10 and so many 5’8 guys claim to be my height, and guys my height say they’re 6’0, it’s irritating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:04 AM
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This is how I used to feel when someone around my age was more successful than me, because up until that point I stupidly made my career my identity/personality, and I felt it was my “thing”. Nowadays I have a much more well-rounded personality and celebrate the success of others, but just had to mention that this post definitely resonated with me and I can empathize with those tall guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 02:14 PM
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What you thought about matching with a 6’0 guy?? Jesus my gender is pathetic! Didn’t realize some guys were bragging that much about an honestly common height these days
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 02:12 PM
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Would you agree that ethnicity plays a big part in dating? I’ve had several women tell me point blank that they don’t date “my kind”…it’s almost like getting resume screened
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 09:38 PM
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I’m a 23 year old kissless virgin that hasn’t even been on a date, yet I have a big group of friends, a great career that often involves interfacing with team members and giving company-wide presentations, and participate in a bunch of social hobbies. I’m the type of person that can go to the grocery store and make friends. It’s hard for me to believe it’s anything other than looks. You’re telling me after coming across possibly thousands of women throughout my life, not ONE has shown the slight…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:40 PM
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I agree with that. However if you reread the original comment there was implication of the black pill (ethnic guys are doomed to a life of virginity and loneliness). Life isn’t fair. Our world is Eurocentric. Doesn’t mean a brown guy can’t pull, just going to be tougher. I’m brown and have gotten tons of attention from women of all ethnicities. Ironically, Indian women don’t seem to like me at all though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 06:21 PM
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I don’t want to get into an LTR anytime soon, I’m focused on my career rn
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:27 PM
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Yes I could get married to a very attractive women. My family has a lot of money and eminence in India. I also make a lot of money in the US and own a couple properties in CA.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:52 PM
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No they definitely don’t. This place is like a bubble of constant self-pity. And most of the men here just want to hookup. I’ve never heard of any person saying that they gained fulfillment from casual sex. LTR is better in every single way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 06:00 AM
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It’s cause most ppl here are mentally ill and haven’t stepped outside for a good while. It’s a bubble that will tear you down - crabs in a bucket style. Literally nobody wants to say it but most of the ppl struggling here have some form of autism - ig has nothing to do with ethnicity or skin color. Is it easier to date as a talk, good-looking white person? Absolutely. But the ppl blaming all their dating woes on immutable traits will continue to suffer with a mentality like that. Until there com…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:32 AM
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Black women are still dating and getting married so I don’t see your point. It’s tougher but not impossible - that’s all I’m saying. PPD is slowly sliding over to the Black Pill and it’s hard to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:17 AM
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I will admit I’m privileged so idk how it is for most Indian men. My parents are very well connected in India so I could get an arranged marriage at any point asap if I wanted. Also helps that I’m related to someone very famous. I assumed it wasn’t that hard for most Indian men since there are still more women wanting to get married than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:41 AM
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Black as night?? How many guys have that shade of skin?? That’s such a contrived example. And even then, I’d say that doesn’t matter if he’s wealthy and/or buff. Tons of black guys do super well with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:39 AM
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Not sure which NYC you live in - it’s been easy mode for me and every guy I know here. And anyway which Manhattan guy would wanna get into an LTR with a “broke bitch” from a different burough?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:19 AM
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It’s pretty easy to get an arranged marriage. So not screwed - but it isn’t ideal either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:11 AM
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Lol wouldn’t dark-skinned already be ethnic? And also if you think that’s what’s holding you back - you are part of the problem. It’s definitely tougher but only on ppd can you say someone proudly and enthusiastically imply if you are ethnic/dark-skinned no women will ever like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:11 AM
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Look at the way the women are reacting in the comments section. I’ve noticed this all through my life. No one likes what are perceived as “weak” men. The minute you show weakness as a man, you get attacked like sharks to blood - they rip you apart. There is nothing worse or more pathetic than a guy that asks for help. As a man, you need to naturally figure everything out while simultaneously having every desirable trait - most of which is genetic. Being a naturally HVM is extremely important - n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:09 PM
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LOL the women cheering at the beginning that men are graduating at progressively lower rates so less of them are deemed “marriage material”. What a total joke. I hope all of them end up alone. And I say this as someone with a math degree from a top university.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 03:03 PM
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Nah I meant depressing for me that in 2 years I’ll be in a category with just 5% of ppl
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:25 PM
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How old were those women? And doesn’t this contradict what you wrote about late-20s women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:11 PM
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That’s crazy to think about m. Who are these guys having so much sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:06 PM
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Well..that’s depressing. Thanks for sharing though lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:05 PM
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Is that not outdated. I thought sexlessness numbers were on the rise
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:38 PM
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Keep believing that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:28 AM
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I think there’s a double standard in that if I heard a girl had a million dollar net worth it wouldn’t change my opinion of her at all. I’d be impressed for sure, but that’s it. I don’t think it goes the other way like that. Because I always assume a women’s money is hers and my money is both of ours lol. As a side note, I hope you do not a million in your thirties - it’s definitely possible with good saving/investing habits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:54 AM
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Lmao that’s fair, but it seems to me that you and your ex were pretty average or maybe slightly above in income/savings, so it wasn’t a big deal to talk about this stuff. I would never reveal my income or savings to anyone because I’m probably in 99th percentile for my age and I’ve already ruined friendships by letting people know. And yes I’m in the millionaire category so we’re dealing with different contexts here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:05 AM
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Eventually, yes. When joint accounts come into play and you move in together so you spend together. But in a first date?? Nah, that’s a huge red flag to ask for a specific number. You can ask what the other person does and guess if they are doing well for themselves or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:27 AM
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Well I’m saying that covid and economic situation will force the “living with parents” situation to extend so they never need to care about money
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:48 AM
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I think it’s more so due to the fact that guys “at my level” want to be with an educated woman rather than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:46 AM
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I think most of my generation lives with their parents so they save so much on rent that they can afford to still go out on a min wage income, that’s why money doesn’t matter as much to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:30 AM
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I’ll take your word for it. I’m in my early 20s so maybe it only matters around early 30s or something. Everyone my age is still trying to figure themselves out ig
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:07 AM
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Definitely not IT lol. I’d say I’m only upper middle class cause I live in NYC. Hell, probably just solidly middle class in the part of Manhattan I’m at. But yeah idk I don’t really see it mattering at all. Like I said, sociability and appearance matter much more. But ofc money makes everything easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 10:07 AM
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Im 22 and make 200k and it has never mattered. That’s my point. Past a certain number it doesn’t matter. It’s way more important to put stock into your appearance and sociability.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 11:33 PM
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That has not been my personal experience. You are definitely of a different generation than me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 11:32 PM
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Straight male, I feel like we’re tier F in 2022, so yes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 02:07 AM
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Pandemic has caused OLD hookups to become a huge thing because people are lonely and bored. My number is 0, wbu
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:38 AM
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Skewed by the only fans thots and sex workers but tbh I think my number is accurate in 2022
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:17 AM
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Up to a point. I’m sure once a guy has a bachelor’s degree and makes enough to support himself aka like 80k, other things matter MUCH more
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:17 AM
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Quite simple. Women are graduating at much higher ages than men and out-earning them in several cities. The days of them being dependent on men are gone. You have to bring something else to the table. Either be a super charismatic guy or very good looking to stand out from the rest of the generic beta buxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:08 AM
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At least 15
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 11:55 PM
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Women these days barely care about a guy’s education and/or career. That’s some sort of revenge nerd fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 11:55 PM
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I never used the word “promiscuous”, but have you guys on average been with multiple men? Yes absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 07:05 PM
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Isn’t casual sex consensual? I don’t see what the problem here is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 06:38 PM
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Not sure why you’re so mad, I posted my comment as a reply to auto mod because I realized it’s a little off-topic, and then you’re the one who voluntarily replied to me. Also idk where or how I “slut-shamed”, if anything I was encouraging this hypothetical guy to go out and be a hoe. I was just saying it’s pretty hypocritical for you guys to shame him when a lot of you have also slept around a decent amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 05:20 PM
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It’s cause it’s one of the worst shames for most guys to pay for sex. That you had to give money to get a woman to touch you. It just doesn’t feel real. Men want to feel desired for something other than their wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 05:16 PM
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And what is that average exactly? 3 partners in a lifetime? That’s a completely outdated study. I remember seeing a thread on here and many of the commenters were revealing that they had double digit N counts. What if this hypothetical guy in OP’s scenario was a virgin and then just wanted to sleep around to get to an N count of 6. Wouldn’t that still be below this “average”?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:26 PM
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Why do people on this sub get so offended when they hear that men want to sleep with multiple women?? Don’t most of you guys have pretty high N counts? Is that not..hypocritical?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:15 PM
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The 4th reason is insecurity?? Having incompatible views/values?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:54 AM
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That’s much easier to find than a virgin women imo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 02:53 AM
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Wow interesting…I say this as someone who is about to turn 23 - I don’t feel at all different from when I was 20 lol. Either I’ve always been mature-ish for my age or I never grew up 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:07 PM
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Really?? Isn’t there barely a difference between 20 and 23? If you and your friends were late 20s I would understand
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 09:42 PM
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RIP all the 40+ year old PPD women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:22 PM
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Nah sorry, have a very hard time believing this argument. As usual, all the blame is shifted away to women and onto the “evil” men. It’s time to start taking some accountability. Unless you are Stevie Wonder, it is very obvious to see what’s going on. The vast majority of women make extremely poor choices when it comes to dating. Horrendous even. And then they act shocked when the guy turns out to be a player, or trash, etc. I think there are a few women who do get unlucky in the sense that they…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:20 PM
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Tbf if I were a women...I would absolutely do this ngl. I would play the field like there was no tomorrow and then find some beta simp to fund my retirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:21 PM
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I must be the only person on this thread that agrees with you, but slightly so. I think you take it to a bit of an extreme, but the underlying argument is fair. I've seen tons of women complain about "where are the good guys" but if they actually cared, they would've been seriously looking early on rather than sleeping around.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:18 PM
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I can understand your POV - ig I meant like when I lived in a midwestern state I barely saw anyone attractive. But when I moved to NYC I saw a ton of attractive people. But I suppose it’s more volume than percentage
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 08:41 PM
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Well it also depends on location. If you are in bum-fuck nowhere, then tbh I can see how only 5% of people could be attractive because some Americans reallyyyy do not take care of themselves. But if you live in a large city then yeah you're just crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 05:06 PM
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This is mind blowing to me as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 03:00 PM
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I mean…I’m literally a tech guy in NYC probably earning more than most doctors/lawyers and I don’t have a problem with women. It’s just because a lot of my peers are weird, don’t take care of themselves, penny-pinchers so they don’t spend on themselves. Like I’m pretty sure my manager made 600k last year and he wears the same plain red t shirt every day. It’s just the casual tech culture and sweaty CS culture clashing together. If you have tech money with a finance bro attitude then there isn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:55 PM
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You and half the women in LA apparently. It’s pre-selection, essentially a referral system. Once Ariana Grande started bragging about him it was a wrap lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 06:22 PM
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Oh boyyyyy, here we go. Any guy dare says he prefers his partner to have been a virgin lest he face the full force and power of 1,000,000 angry PPD women and PPD white knights
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 05:09 PM
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Yeah just look at Pete Davidson getting with a new model every other week. I'm sorry but that dude ain't attractive at all lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 04:50 PM
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Money and status usually go hand-in-hand
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 04:38 PM
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I used the “slight embarrassment” emoji cause I’m complimenting her but in an embarrassed way, I wouldn’t look too into it. It was supposed to be slightly funny because what kind of guy would NOT be happy if their partner got a windfall and was able to make money moves with it? I don’t even drink btw. I think you’re projecting, you sound extremely bitter. I hope you feel better soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 04:34 AM
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Huh? Wait I was being serious…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 04:01 AM
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Sooo you’re telling me you’re single right now?? You sound like a total catch 😅.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 02:37 AM
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Education: B.S. in math from T20 school (one of the higher ranked UC schools) Ethnicity: South Asian Dating success: This is a mixed bag. I've never officially been in a relationship. Only recently started taking care of my appearance (hitting the gym, dressing better, skincare, etc) and in the past year I've had a lot of women show obvious interest in me, but not looking to date now or anytime soon - focused on career and continuing to develop myself at the moment. Income level: 250k - 300k (de…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:16 AM
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Lol I hate to make blanket statements but the type of people that frequent this website and especially this sub often have similar characteristics...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 11:48 PM
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Yeah I know I’m joking lol. I don’t care for that sort of life
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 10:22 PM
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I’d better have a hoe phase in my late 20s or ai want a refund
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 07:08 PM
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Yes but just remember this sub is extremely skewed. Not all men are like this, not even close m. I wouldn’t make life decisions based off what these guys say lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:44 PM
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Unfortunately there’s just way too many trash men out there; not much that I can personally do about that. It’s similar to defensive driving. Tons of drunk drivers and weirdos on the road, all you can do is defend yourself and be aware, you can’t teach every person to be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:21 PM
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If it’s the sole thing a woman likes about a man, yea, that’s good digging. But if you are attracted to a guy and on top of that he’s well-educated, has a great career, and is good with saving/investing I see nothing wrong with that. Don’t listen to these loser men on this sub that have never made even 60k in their life and are neck-deep in debt, unless you are attracted to rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:05 PM
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Aren’t 50% average to above average? How hard can that be? Also it isn’t money that makes someone attractive but what you do with it. You can make yourself look 10x better with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:04 PM
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First of all, I don’t think you realize how wealthy you have to be these days to have all of the things you listed (have a car, your own place, financial independence from parents). I make over 250k and even I’m a couple years from that. The days of “just have your shit together, it’s easy” are far over, especially if you live in the US. Most of my generation still live with their parents and have to pay off large student loan debt, let alone own anything, and this goes on until late 20s to earl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:03 PM
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But men’s value to women in terms of attractiveness isn’t only looks-based
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 04:41 PM
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Exactly. Women are by and large hyper famous. My sister who graduated from a top uni and makes 6 figures in her early 20s wants a guy that makes well above that and has a similar education background - but obviously this is pretty rare. So if you can be “that guy” you would definitely stand out. Graduation rates for men are going downhill and they are getting out earned by women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 04:39 PM
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It depends. If you take care of yourself, get your money up, increase your confidence and maturity over time, then definitely imo. I myself have noticed a lot more women showing signs that they are attracted to me as I continue to get older. In high school and college I was basically invisible, but I also didn’t take care of myself nor take pride in my appearance. I was also poor lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 06:04 AM
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Oh don’t give me that, these women were 350+ lbs, sweaty, oily face, high school drop outs, with minimum wage jobs at 25
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:01 AM
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Still not sure how to tell the difference between a girl being nice and one liking you because most are so passive. For example one girl was following me around the gym, sort of hovering around my vicinity even though the rest of the gym was empty, and kept glancing at me. I kept thinking she probably thinks I’m super ugly cause of my low self-esteem but now I realize she may have wanted me to talk to her?? It’s hard to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 11:39 PM
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Have you been on hinge? I had to scrub out my eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 11:28 PM
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One makes you feel good and one is a dose of reality. Until I hear one of you guys actually give a convincing argument otherwise, I’m not compelled.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 04:18 PM
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I really wish I could give you a foolproof plan, but it’s going to be pretty tough, especially now since most tech companies have a hiring freeze. Your best bet would be to join a bootcamp and after doing a couple months of personal projects and some tech internships you should have a fairly good chance. One thing I want to emphasize is make sure you actually really like coding. One of the reasons I was able to prep for 6 months straight was because I love coding and engineering, so it didn’t fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 05:59 AM
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I never said my experiences were more important than those of others, and I would be happy to hear opposing arguments. So far nothing has been very convincing, it’s been mostly the same blue pill BS propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 05:58 AM
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Ironically, I worked around 50 hours at my first job and only like 20-30 hours at this current job, and it’s much less stressful plus unbelievable perks. Career ladder was: math degree at top 20 university -> non-tech consulting -> software engineer at investment bank -> software engineer at fintech company It’s a fallacy that more money automatically means worse WLB.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 05:46 AM
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Maybe "least important" was an exaggeration, but yes, it's heading straight to the bottom of the list as time goes on. And as the other commenter said, if it was important to a woman, well, that's not a good sign. You are basically a walking ATM to her. Men in general want to be liked for being themselves, not because they're a super good corporate wage slave. And btw just go outside to any mall, restaurant, gym, grocery store. Women my age (early 20s) and below will pretty much all be hand-in-h…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 05:42 AM
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Good for you! Always respect people that try to make big career changes, because I know personally that it's incredibly tough. I went from being a non-tech consultant (contractor) to currently a backend engineer for a fintech company. The job hop entailed about 6 months of constant prep and a fair amount of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 05:39 AM
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I would love to spit out, but unfortunately my lived experiences and what I see irl time and time again proves nearly every tenet of that pill. The difference between me and them is I've accepted the truth but I can also find happiness in other ways, because this isn't the 1700s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 05:23 AM
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I promise you that this is completely and patently false lmao. Women, without a doubt, primarily care about looks, height, and ethnicity up until early to mid 30's, and this age is getting pushed further and further out since most women these days are totally content being single for the rest of their lives (with FWB's) instead of settling down with some beta bux, since they can now make their own money (and often out-earn men). Career/education/intelligence is literally the least important aspe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 05:14 AM
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The sooner you realize marriage is a man-made social construct and thus totally against nature and how things were supposed to be the better. Monogamy is a lie. The days of women having to settle down are over. I expect the divorce rate to be over 75% within a decade, if not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 03:14 AM
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What's even the point of marriage if there is no sex wtf. It's already a losing situation for men with any sort of money/assets lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 07:01 PM
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Ah I see. Well nothing new, woman wants bad man, wow so surprising
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:59 PM
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Guilty as charged lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 04:56 PM
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I would be tapping that nightly, without hesitation
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 03:56 PM
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You're right that looks don't completely fade away by 25/26, but Leo is a guy with options and I'm sure he also doesn't feel the need to stay with the same woman anyway. He's probably already picked out the next 21 year old he's gonna date; it's also about having new and exciting experiences, and not being tied down to just one person. Also, it doesn't really matter what he looks like. Clearly, some women are still pining after him lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 07:14 AM
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He appears to be the perfect beta bux specimen. I'm sure all the 40+ year old divorced women will be lining up for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 06:02 AM
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It's cause most guys don't care about a women's intelligence past a certain point. It's far down on the list of priorities, as long as she's not a total idiot. A guy getting a PhD brings up his value a lot more than if a woman got one. Might be offensive but it's just observable facts. Youth and beauty start fading at 25, and quickly go downhill after that depending on how you take care of yourself, and most American women don't. If you are a HVM like Leo, of course you're gonna leverage that po…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:43 AM
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I have absolutely no idea what this means. "He's got money, but nothing to show for it". So do you want some sort of inventor guy??
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:24 AM
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Because dating is a rigged game and the sooner you learn it, the better. Women know it but won't admit to it of course. If you don't pay for her, she can easily find another sucker to do so. I literally have about ten (male) friends I know that donate to random female twitch streamers that they don't even know lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:21 AM
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I genuinely don't understand questions like this. Correct me if I'm wrong, but most PPD women are old, unattractive, married (to below average) men with too much time on their hands. Usually quite uneducated and pretty content with an average to poor lifestyle. Most will never make above 100k because, quite frankly, they don't have the intelligence or drive to do so. So they don't know what they are missing - aka ignorance is bliss. You are asking an incredibly skewed crowd so be prepared for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:16 AM
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25 is a pretty symbolic age for a lot of people. It's when you hit mid-20s, and for women, value starts decreasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:14 AM
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Honestly, good for him. Mad respect and props. He's doing what most average men want to be able to do, but don't have the choice. Leo will find some other new 21 year old model and be more than fine
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:13 AM
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I find this amusing as a guy. Whatever age I become, my preferences would stay exactly the same: beautiful, youthful, agreeable. Seems to me that it's mostly women that exhibit this chameleon behavior. Btw I don't really believe in the good sex thing. Everyone knows the prevalence of dead bedroom, and divorce rate is over 50%, just not a fun time tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 10:48 PM
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It's shocking how bad Americans (mostly white people) look already in their mid 30s, due to not taking care of their health, excessive drinking and drugs, not applying sunscreen, etc. There is definitely a vast difference between 22 and 35 in a lot of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 10:11 PM
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Tbh it seems like most people go from only caring about attraction to caring about attraction + 10 other requirements, while also simultaneously getting less attractive and less passionate due to old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 08:23 PM
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Well cause there’s definitely a common trend in the comments, idk if you’re reading them properly
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 08:21 PM
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Bummer that so many guys never get to experience the “as a young adult” stuff and go straight to the cliche, trite beta bux BS you wrote for “as an adult”. Literally halfway through that paragraph I fell asleep and woke up an hour later.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 08:18 PM
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Huh? What are you talking about lol. Is this a personal attack, or general statement? Because personal attacks aren't allowed. I do have friends and I do go out, my observation is literally possible because I go out a lot, and I was just saying I've noticed I don't see any single girls my age at all even though there should technically be an equal ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 05:13 PM
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Yeah it might just be a west coast thing. It legit feels like all the semi-decent and above women find their lifelong partner in high school or college, so after that you can just forget about it, the train has already left the station.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 04:22 PM
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Seriously, where the hell are all the single women at? Do they even exist? I live in a fairly large city and if you go out, all you see are groups of like 3-5 guys roaming around. If you ever see a woman, she’s almost inevitably with her boyfriend/husband. It seems like every single place/venue has become a total sausage fest. Even I didn’t know that the ratio of men to women is roughly 1:1 I would’ve been shocked to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:28 PM
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lol I like the honesty
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:44 AM
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Lmaoo thank you for this, actually made me laugh out loud. Well it’s not like I put my income and net worth in my bio, or really any part of my dating profiles. Also I’m pretty conservative with spending, I don’t really care for flashy stuff in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 10:55 PM
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Yeah, I used to say like "I'm a back-end developer that works to optimize low latency processes for the trading infrastructure at X company" but obviously halfway through that I can see most peoples' attention completely dissipate, so instead I started just saying "I work in finance" and leave it at that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:40 PM
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That’s what you would think, but that’s not been my experience at all. Might just be an age thing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 07:00 PM
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I think that’s super cool, it just sucks that a lot of people would probably think that’s boring UNTIL you mention the money. Maybe after 30+ the dating pool gets more mature and can appreciate stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 06:08 PM
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That’s good to hear. Yeah, I definitely understand that. Most of the time they’re pretty demanding jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:39 PM
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But we’re talking using dating apps like Hinge and looking for LTR’s. But then again I’ve seen some surprising comments on this thread, I wouldn’t be surprised if women now prefer marrying boxers over someone in a technical field.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:36 PM
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By demanding do you mean intense hours? What if the guy worked 30 hours max per week and was super chill, meaning they just kept the work stuff at the office, and once they came home at a decent time they did other more liberal arts type of activities/hobbies??
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 01:32 PM
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Idk renaming it or over glamorizing it seems a bit like lying. I thought women just want a guy who has a stable job? The problem seems to be that the more technical, rigorous a job is the more “boring” it is to the average person. I’ll probably just have to find another software engineer that actually values hard work and ambition.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:15 PM
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Thank you, this is good advice. My pics are completely random rn so this is definitely something I can work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:09 PM
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I think talking about my job as a software engineer for a fintech company seems to put the majority of women to sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:07 PM
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What do you mean by a “cool job”. I’m starting to think my job is the reason I can’t get a single match despite out-earning 99% of my age group…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 11:56 AM
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I make 200k but am a penny pincher. Im also a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 12:15 PM
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Thank you, makes sense. Every woman is different
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 08:18 AM
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So there’s no sort of objectivity to it??
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:11 AM
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Most women that are still single in their 30s aren’t exactly a catch lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 09:51 PM
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And so what if the guy in question is making 800k+ rather than 80k? Not sure why the entire basis of this argument is that he'll only be making 70/80k. I find it very hard to believe a man focusing on himself would be earning that low. I was making more than that out of undergrad and I was a complete fuck-up at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:06 PM
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From all my guy friends 30+, they definitely have noticed a change but "the wall" is over-exaggerated. Also most 30+ year old guys are pretty pathetic and not exactly Christian Grey.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:04 PM
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True. But most doctors, engineers, lawyers definitely care more about just a pretty face. In fact, most marry within their social class but will sleep around with women of all financial backgrounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:05 PM
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True, that’s why it’s personally not a very big priority of mine, just something to consider. I’m sure my parents wouldn’t mind if the woman in question was wonderful and a perfect match for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 08:13 AM
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Then yes I agree, it seems like it’s the LARPers on here that say that. Any actual successful, rich guy cares for more than just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 08:11 AM
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My tinder/bumble/hinge account
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 08:19 PM
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Ohh got it. Yeah there's a HUGE difference between making like 200k and 1M+. I think most people can get to a 7 figure net worth with time and investing/saving aggressively, but to consistently make 7 figures every year is the start of wealthy imo. I have a couple friends in that category and they live a way different life than me even though I make a quarter of a mil.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 08:09 PM
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Congrats on making 1M+, that's very impressive. I'm a little surprised you aren't part of the wealthy circles, that's definitely good enough to be exposed to that sort of lifestyle, its like the top 0.1% income.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 07:48 PM
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What is considered a “delusional” take?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 06:57 PM
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Curious to understand what “extreme, extreme, low end of wealthy” is? Low 7 figures?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 06:48 PM
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Idk if I qualify for this…even though I’m technically in the 3rd category I always laugh when I’m considered “successful and educated”. I work on Wall Street, and graduated from a top 20 school with a math degree. Anyway…I’m looking for a woman who is similarly ambitious and driven. I don’t care about how much money she makes or currently has, but she has to have actionable goals and be working towards something everyday. That’s super attractive to me. Not just some pretty faced airhead. Also, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 05:06 PM
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So? Women and men are not the same. If you are a guy that can get a ton of sex, you are most likely a stud or seriously above average in some meaningful way. All a women has to do to rack up a high N count is to spread her legs. Not very impressive in comparison. Plus a woman risks way more with casual sex so that mean she's impulsive. And the ratio of sugar mamas to sugar daddies is like 1:100. Basically non-existent. I know so many average women that either have an actual sugar daddy or basica…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:58 PM
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How is it sexist? Could you elaborate on that? And it's not sexist that a lot of women essentially use men as walking ATM's??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:19 PM
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Can I get some tips fr?? I'm the exact same age as you but have been absolutely struggling. Are you just tall and/or good looking??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:16 PM
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The main problem is that OLD has become the default for finding a relationship these days. And since it’s basically 99% looks based, there’s no incentive for a guy to develop a better personality, hobbies, etc. so the cycle of women falling for hot but shitty men begins. Sure, some of them get lucky and find a guy that’s attractive AND has a good personality but that’s far and few. Dating apps have really ruined dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:33 PM
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You clearly like that fake Instagram look lol. Those girls make me wanna barf
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:42 AM
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I’m already a software engineer making 250k, I have no idea what you are talking about. I have friends that work as quants clearing 7 figures just a couple years out of school. I’m working towards transitioning careers
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:34 AM
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Yeah, men mostly just care about beauty and attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:20 AM
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They cap out extremely fast and their work life balance and the nature of the job are both worse than a primary care physician, who’ll be making 350k+ in their first year. I’ve worked alongside nurses back when I volunteered in college and they would openly talk wanting to marry the doctors at the hospital. It’s also a respect and status thing, not just money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:38 PM
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Yes, I’m sure nurses are all making 200k right out of college
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:25 PM
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I’m just saying I don’t think it’s because of “maturity”, I think you’ve just dealt with trash guys. There are a lot of early 20 guys that are way more mature than women the same age as them and also relationship-minded, but they still struggle to even go on a date
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:55 PM
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This is just so false but ok. Actions speak louder than words. I see none of nerdy STEM friends that make upwards of 200k/300k get any attention from women whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:02 AM
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Yup, through reading all these comments I’ve realized that hookups are pretty overrated. Will focus on pursuing relationships then. I always felt like it was harder to find a relationship than a ONS because for a relationship you need to be attractive and meet various other bars (personality, education, career, comparability, etc) but clearly I’m wrong lol. Even though I definitely have way more positive qualities for a relationship than I do “exciting” qualities and pure attractiveness for a ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:47 AM
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Yeah, the former is impossible and the latter is near impossible. You can’t change what you are attracted to, that’s a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:06 AM
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I’m just trying to be decently attractive, not some Chad. According to most ppl here that seems to be enough for most women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:05 AM
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Thanks, this was very helpful! Never understood how abs are important since most of the time we have it covered up with a shirt, but ofc pecs and biceps are definitely visible. Ig if you go to the beach a lot lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:51 AM
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What do you consider to be “in good shape”? I was a varsity athlete throughout school and now I still go to the gym consistently. I’m 5’10/160lbs with a lean build - not visibly “big”, but I definitely do have a fit look to me. I agree with the rest of your advice. If anything, I think I come off as indifferent to most women. But I’ve noticed that in a group setting or if I’m with a friend, the girl will usually avoid making eye contact or smiling at me and will exclusively focus on the other pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:22 AM
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Well the biggest draw for a lot of guys to enter a monogamous relationship is to get consistent sex. So I think it very much is a logical conclusion that if there was no more sex in the relationship, the guy would leave and try to find another partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:19 AM
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This chart makes sense to me, 30% of guys are just ugly. I’m a bit shocked that only 80% of women in my age range are having sex. Maybe if you were to filter the data to just 21-24 then it would be even higher? Seems like nearly every woman I know is in a relationship or has a FWB. Btw my gay friend gets into a new relationship every month. It’s like going on a walk to the park for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:18 AM
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The problem is that there is a fundamental difference between men and women and this is exactly what’s causing this entire debate. Men, for the most part, want a lot of sex with multiple women with little to no strings attached. The cold hard truth is that if sex was off the table, 99% of guys would leave their current relationships. Meanwhile, women want security, stability, an emotional bond, all that lovey-dovey bullshit. Sex to then means little to nothing. That’s why they are confused why g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:09 PM
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I’d say I’m slightly above average because I have an average face but a pretty athletic/lean build. Apparently the average American is overweight. But guys can make looks up in a lot of other ways. I’ll probably be earning upwards of half a million in a couple years so I’m gonna put the money to good use in helping me improve myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:55 PM
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Thanks for the advice; definitely feel like if you say you’re a software engineer you are automatically slotted into the “boring/nice guy” zone, so I’ll avoid talking about it and definitely will mention something that makes me seem “exciting”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:34 PM
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Yeah definitely, thanks for the advice!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:33 PM
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Lol that’s what I’m working on rn. Hitting the gym, dressing better, new hairstyle, skincare routine, idk we’ll see if it pays off :p
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:19 PM
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Ig I have high standards for looks. I wish I could change this but attraction is immutable. And yes I already mentioned my income in the original post. I’m in a high growth industry as well. I’m only 22 so maybe what I’m attracted too will change over time
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:58 PM
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Not interested in them just as most women aren’t interested in average men, but they never get called out
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:48 PM
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Because I’m most attracted to them. Not really something I can control/change
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:47 PM
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Yeah then it’s usually a sugar daddy or simp paying for it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:31 PM
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Here come all the women putting looks and money 0 and personality 10 lmao. Because ppd women are 40+ and married, and women in general like to virtue signal. I would love to hear from early to mid 20s women who are single, but obviously none of them will be on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:29 PM
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Women aren’t great at saving money
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:16 PM
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Yeah but once you get to around 30 and you want a nice wedding, a house, kids, etc suddenly they realize money matters lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 07:20 AM
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It’s cause most of them either have rich parents, sugar daddies, or are in serious debt and don’t give a fk
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:08 AM
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Idk I’m starting to realize I don’t care that much about money. There’s no point in being single and making a lot. I want to have fun, so that’s why I was looking for ways to improve myself. I’m not really interested in settling down at 30 and having a family. But I like what you said about everyone on their own path, that’s true. Pros and cons to everything. I would trade places with a lot of people myself. Even a high school kid that has $0 in his bank account but has a nice gf
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:55 AM
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Oh ok, got it. Guess I have no idea how to flirt lol. Time to go to YouTube??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:48 AM
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I work full time around 45-50 hours a week, then the rest of my time is spent learning/studying software development concepts. I’d drop the prep hours if it meant I could get hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:55 AM
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I wish I joined the drama club, would’ve helped me become more confident and the girls fighting over you is ofc a plus lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:54 AM
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They are probably asking where to find these so-called beautiful nerdy women because that seems to be the ideal for many guys. I doubt any of them will be single anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:53 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:52 AM
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Unfortunately I’m only attracted to women that are considered objectively attractive, so the competitor is fierce for them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:52 AM
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If I hit 30 and am still a virgin I definitely will
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:51 AM
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Nice analogy. Idk I try not to flirt with women that don’t show me any interest, which is basically all of them. It could come off creepy otherwise and that’s pretty risky these days
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:51 AM
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It seems the common theme for nerdy guys is to just suck it up and wait until late 20s or early 30s when women mature their dating preferences cause clearly we’re not very popular amongst 21 year old women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:50 AM
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All those type of women stay at home unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:48 AM
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Maybe they are a bit older. People my age are definitely on the grind
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:47 AM
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No, not if I want to stay at the top of my career
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:47 AM
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I never really understand why women hook up with rich guys without getting anything in return? Do they hope that it'll continue into an LTR? What are they getting out of it? Assuming they aren't paid for it like a hooker
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:15 AM
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This is just latently false and borderline gaslighting. In my experience, ugly women have the same standards or even higher than that of attractive women, and you can thank OLD for that. At that point, might as well just go for the attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:07 AM
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So quants can only get ugly women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:02 AM
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Right, and once I fix my hypothetical bitterness, a line of women will be outside my door lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:16 AM
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And what are those qualities?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:07 AM
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That’s fair enough, it comes down to what you value.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:58 AM
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No, but that’s why I’m trying to work on myself
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:57 AM
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Well it’s either I continue as a kissless virgin well into my 30s, 40s, so on or I do something about it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:54 AM
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I’ve only read Rational Male, but I’m still new to all this
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:53 AM
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Thanks for sharing, so this confirms that women start noticing stem nerds only after 30+
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:52 AM
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Nearly all of them, but I’m sure some of the less attractive girls settle down with some random guy once they realize they can’t get their first choice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:45 AM
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Well I’m shocked because that’s definitely not been my experience. It’s very hard to balance STEM coursework along with a vibrant social life
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:44 AM
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Idk if you have the money it’s definitely worth it imo, especially since I have naturally terrible hair lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:43 AM
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Haha thanks for the honest answer. I think I’ve got basic social skills, but definitely not the life of the party or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:43 AM
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No I’m looking to hook up with attractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:42 AM
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I don't want to be a skinny pushover anymore who has trouble even getting one date
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:36 AM
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When did you start dating him? In your late 20s?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:36 AM
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Thanks for the actionable advice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:26 AM
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Well the majority of math/cs guys that work tech jobs (my coworkers) tend to have similar traits that are by and large unattractive to women in their early/mid 20's, and some examples are being quiet, introverted, skinny, not taking care of appearance, etc. Not saying all STEM guys are like this but it's so common it's become a popular meme/stereotype
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:26 AM
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Women regularly pay a couple hundred at upscale boutiques. Many of my female friends that do this make minimum wage too. Guys don't have to pay much but for a really good cut, $80 is reasonable because it'll last at least a few months
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:24 AM
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Not really, I do see girls my age (early 20s) going for the same type of guys that have the traits I mentioned above. Sure, this sub exaggerates, but at a high-level it kind of is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:12 AM
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I feel like the traits I listed above are those that are nearly universally loved by women. Maybe the use of "bad boy" is incorrect, but my question still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:10 AM
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And how can a guy become "interesting" compared to the 100 other guys fighting for an average woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:08 AM
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I feel like this is still a form of beta buxxing....you'll literally just attract gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:08 AM
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That makes sense. Disappointing to hear but oh well
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:07 AM
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Ok then, is there any way for a STEM nerd to become popular with women? Or is he doomed to a life of beta buxxing??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 12:07 AM
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Wow you just opened my eyes on something. Now I know why these women that work minimum wage jobs at Walmart think they are hot shit. Just because they wear some make-up. So when does this stuff start mattering? Late 20s? Because idk about other guys but I absolutely do care about a women’s career, ambition, work ethic, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:07 PM
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Dude, just go ahead and say Asian lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:57 PM
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Dude, the sad truth is the 5’3 bald Indian janitor is most likely married with kids. Most of the guys struggling here are severely autistic or have something else going on mentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:55 PM
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It’s literally just luck. This is why I don’t believe in the black pill. I’ve seen in front of my own eyes my friends that are 5’6/5’7, balding, overweight, making minimum wage able to consistently get into relationships. Obviously the women they get aren’t exactly models, but still. All of these guys are very outgoing and charismatic. And they happen to be in the right place in the right time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 10:50 PM
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High six figures to low seven figures isn’t too out of reach for me. Thanks for the advice
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:10 AM
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Very well said, but I do have a follow-up question. You just wrote that women are now financially independent so the money a man makes no longer matters, yet you also implied that being a rich guy can help you be chosen by women. So which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:22 AM
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This is the best point made so far. If it truly is “survival of the fittest”, a guy could murder another dude and then rape is girlfriend since anything goes to show superiority. You can’t pick and choose here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:41 AM
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But we’re not animals are we?? If you want to go back to uncivilized times, go out with a spear and hunt some meat. No access to advanced medicine tech, hell - even a roof over your head. Who do you think is responsible for that innovation? Chad? Curious to see how long you would last. My point is - men have value past their looks. Just because these aren’t picked up on by women, the so called moralistic choosers, doesn’t mean these guys deserve to die out and go extinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:12 AM
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Do you realize how stupid you sounds? So the “fittest” guy in our society is just someone who is attractive and tall? If that’s the case, women will cause our society to end real soon. Just gonna be a population full of good looking air heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:50 PM
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Probably just a huge range tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:20 PM
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So then are women just sleeping around with the same small group of men? That’s the only way this makes sense since there are roughly an equal amount of men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:59 PM
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Hey thanks for the great write up, I really appreciate it. You’ve definitely broadened my perspective. You are absolutely right. If she is great in every way and our relationship is strong and she’s clean, her past number shouldn’t matter. And I definitely don’t ask anyway - ignorance is bliss lol. Now I just have to find a woman like in your hypothetical scenario that is actually attracted to me 😆. Thanks again for the informative response :).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:51 AM
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All pretty introverted so ig we are not the norm lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:06 AM
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I feel terrible because logically speaking, I know you make sense deep down. It really shouldn’t matter. Maybe it’s because of my own insecurities at being a virgin at a “late” age. But if a woman told me she’d slept with (just as an example) 70 guys and she’s 23, it would just be very hard for me to stomach that. Just the difference in sexual experience I feel like would lead to compatibility issues between us. The fact that I’m #71 and there’s a very good chance there’ll be a #72 for her just …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 07:05 AM
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They’re mostly men. But don’t men and women on average have pretty similar body counts?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:59 AM
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I mean I’d love to be able to say “I won’t date someone with X partners” but I’ve been told beggars can’t be choosers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:44 AM
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Backwards society when you won’t date a virgin but will happily get with some person who’s slept with 200 people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:43 AM
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Huh?? Is this true? Most of my friends are nearing that age and have barely slept with 1-2 people….
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:40 AM
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Both. It’s pretty obvious tbh. Most women end up fessing up in one form or another eventually
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:09 AM
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Lmaooo I’m gonna go and vomit now
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:09 AM
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Nope, I don’t wanna be bringing some women home to my parents that has had multiple guys inside of her, leaving trails of precum. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:23 PM
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No, if anything most women don’t want to date a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:22 PM
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It’s like that meme about women liking “nerdy guys” and it’s basically just Henry Cavill in glasses lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 04:43 PM
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Being husband material would mean that I failed at life
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 02:02 PM
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That’s true. I think as men, a lot of us are very pattern-oriented which unfortunately leads to generalizing people inaccurately. I am definitely guilty of doing this from time to time. I think we secretly don’t want to admit that female behavior is largely unexplainable and pretty random. There is no cheat code
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 11:23 PM
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By the time a women hits 25 in the US, there's about a 98% chance she's not a virgin. The other 2% are asexuals, women with severe disabilities, and some super, super religious women. Although in my experience, religious women have been some of the most sexually experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 07:58 PM
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A. Well obviously no, you are not an “old hag”, but in the dating world, that age is getting to the point where it could be a light red flag. I would be curious why a woman is still single at that point since it’s so easy for you guys to get into a relationship. Also, a couple years past 29 and pregnancy complications due to age are possible. B) There absolutely is a difference between a woman who has been in 2 LTR’s so only slept with 2 guys, and a women who has had 50 ONS. Why didn’t the woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 06:45 PM
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Yes that’s definitely fair. I apologize if I came off as disrespecting or judging people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 06:19 PM
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I'm not really sure why you inserted yourself here. I'm talking about women in their early 20s that have slept with like over 50 guys. If you think that isn't an issue, I'm not really sure what to say. The fact of the matter is it doesn't really matter what I think because you being a women can easily find a guy to be in a relationship with at any point in time. But it's a personal preference of mine to avoid women who have slept around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:36 PM
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I'm a virgin so I'm looking for a women similarly inexperienced. It's just icky for me to think about a women having been with and done nasty things with other men, I apologize, but that's just my opinion, and I think everyone is entitled to their own POV. I realize this'll make finding a partner much harder for me, but I'd rather be single than compromise on this. I definitely don't live my life by other people's standards, this is just a personal preference of mine, similar to how maybe some w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:34 PM
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Got it, I’ll keep this in mind for the future
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:46 PM
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Thanks dude. I’m turning 23 soon so ig I have a lot of time still lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:44 PM
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Huh? You’re saying I was coping? How??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:30 PM
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Thanks, great summary! Damn, not gonna lie I’m kind of headed down the blackpill route lol. I just need to delete dating apps…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:30 PM
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Because men find most women attractive. Go to any large city and you’ll se a ton of “8” women. And for women, all they have to do is be a healthy weight and facially attractive. For men (who are mostly deemed ugly by women), to be an 8 you not only have to look similar to someone like Chris Hemsworth, but also have a good career, be sociable, be confident, etc. This is much, much tougher and thus, more rare. These men that are 8’s have hundreds of options. So downvote me all you want but it’s th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:13 PM
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Damaged goods is going too far, but at the same time I disagree that past sexual history doesn’t matter at all. Pair bonding does get affected. And a high N count women indicates some degree of impulsiveness on her part, or at the very least, that sec isn’t very important to her since she seems to give it away to every dude on the street
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:10 PM
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Oh ok, I see. Not super well versed with all the different pills lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:09 PM
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That makes sense, and I do agree with you to a certain extent. However, there certainly are women that have been around the block so to speak, and suddenly become “born again virgins” when they realize their biological clock is ticking, so they entrap some poor beta bux into an LTR, which leads to dead bedroom (which is frighteningly common). Yet when she was young and going for Chads this was never an issue. The FIL part is pretty weird but life would be much easier if all women would be transp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:08 PM
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I mean idk…it makes sense??? No self-respecting man wants to be the 30+ year old beta bux. I think OP went too far in generalizing all men that get into marriage after 30 as beta bux, but I do agree with the rest of what he said. Women often have some sort of “epiphany” at 30+ and decide to give the “stable” but in exciting guy a chance and that does kind of annoy me. We men go for the same type of women our entire life, regardless of age. Keep that same energy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 04:06 PM
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What’s wrong with this post? Care to explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:58 AM
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Gl getting a guy that’s an 8 and also has his shit together to commit. A man being an 8 > woman being an 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:36 AM
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Literally the toughest thing for 30+ year old women is finding a guy that meets their unbelievably high standards
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:16 AM
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Extremely easy. I never understood the whole fake “wall” concept. It’s just cope. Women getting into an LTR at any age will be one of the easiest things one can do in life. 2nd easiest thing would be breathing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:12 AM
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Lol could be profitable. Leetcode hards are extremely easy for me compared to even getting a date. Thanks for the advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:19 AM
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If I lost my job she’d probably file for divorce. Life isn’t fair
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:17 AM
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No. I just have nonexistent standards and am extremely desperate. Btw baristas don’t go for nerdy tech guys lmao. I’d love to even get to go on a date with one
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:16 AM
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I’m an engineer making 200k+ and completely agree with this. If you are a woman and Jess than 350 lbs I will most likely be ready to marry you. That’s all it takes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:48 AM
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No? It seems annoying and a lot of work. It’s best to move on
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:43 AM
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Nah you make 0 dollars right now. I can’t help but laugh when I hear that bull shit about “at X years I’ll be making Y salary I’m such a boss woman!!!”. I already make more than you and will make double your earning potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:06 AM
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Why would you wanna stay with someone who’s sick tf
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 04:04 AM
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To your edit, that’s gonna be impossible or highly unlikely. I don’t know a single woman my age who makes more than me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 10:43 PM
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Even so, women who make a lot of money expect their partner to still make more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:29 PM
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“Someone who makes minimum wage wanting to date someone making 6 figures“ Is that not like 90% of women making minimum wage??? And many of them actually find a guy making 6 figures. Social mobility at its finest
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:27 PM
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Kid
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:31 PM
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I have nothing really going for me other than the fact that I’m a good person. That’s it. I don’t like to compete and I feel like dating for men has become like baseball during PE and you just don’t wanna be the last one to get picked but all the loud, popular guys get picked first. And even though you might be pretty good at baseball, you’ll never get a chance to step up to the plate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:15 PM
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This post spoke to me 110%
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:20 AM
10

Even if that were true, they still find only a small number of men attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:34 PM
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Sorry could you be more clear? Who is “it” in this case? If you mean men, that might be true for casual sex, but for LTR’s men definitely value chastity in a woman. No guy wants to be with the town doormat. And women for LTR’s want a stable guy they can show off to their family and friends who will make her feel safe and secure
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:28 PM
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This is it right here. Very well said. Beta cuck men are fortunate enough to get used when a women wants an LTR. But men will invariably value looks in a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:15 PM
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Yup, every man that struggles to date must be some video-game obsessed druggy. Good observation
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:14 AM
2

Yeah I have absolutely no idea tbh. It’s actually a mystery
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:28 PM
2

The chads let themselves go over time
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:35 PM
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I never said I was “entitled” to a high-earning women, that’s just my preference and if you have a problem with that you can go kick rocks. I literally talked about how much I make to give context because if I didn’t people would assume I’m some minimum wage worker that wants to be in a relationship with a successful women and that would make me look delusional. If you want to get into coding and start making some actual money, feel free to slide into my DM’s and I’d be happy to give you a refer…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:38 PM
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I hate to say it, but if I’m not attracted to a girl she could save orphans, cure cancer, and end world hunger and I would think she’s an awesome person, but still not be attracted to her. So this is very interesting for me to hear. Might be a difference in how sexuality works between men vs women. Not saying personality doesn’t matter, just that a basic level of attraction comes first for me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:38 AM
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Wow, that’s fascinating. Can’t imagine something like that happening to me. Thanks for sharing!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:32 AM
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As a man this doesn’t make sense to me at all. How can you “fall in love” with someone without being attracted to them first??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:08 AM
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I would cut my left ball off to even get to spend 5 minutes with a women like in the background picture of this post
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:09 AM
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I get your point but you used an example of a guy that was an nba player and made tens of millions of dollars a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:59 AM
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That isn’t a fair comparison because doesn’t everyone like everyone for their looks? That’s literally the basis of attraction. I agree with your 2nd point, but if you don’t look good there’s no way girls would even give you the time of day to be able to show off those other, hidden traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:08 AM
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The one thing that I’m above avg in attracts gold diggers, and you want me to go all in on that??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:18 AM
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If you completely shave, get buff, and get some tattoos, you could definitely pull off a look that a niche of women love. Bonus points if you can still grow facial hair
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:18 AM
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Better if he just completely shaved
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:03 PM
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Ok but you and your friends are clearly pretty smart if you graduated so fast and are clearly top attendings. Every single statistic points towards your claims of making 400 to 500k at 26 in medicine as a big fat lie. But I’ll take your word for it. Ok well your “understanding” is very wrong. My friends and I are nowhere close to the “upper-echelon” of tech, whatever that means, and all are making 200-550k at 22-24 years old. Many of them make 200 in base and have a lot of pre-IPO equity as well…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:58 PM
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I’m confident because I make a lot of money, am pretty fit, and have a great group of friends. Even though I don’t get any attention from women irl. I do have like 150+ matches on tinder tho lol, and a lot of the girls message me first so that’s an ego boost for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:18 PM
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Wow, your grandmother is 6’2+? That’s super cool lol. Most of my family on both sides of my parents are pretty short but they may have just been held back by lack of proper nutrition.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:38 PM
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It’s ok the government will support them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:25 PM
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Yeah, just travel to a different state, it’s so easy bro. I’m a poor, destitute pregnant woman, let me just travel real quick tho
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:25 PM
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Oh dear. PPD women are gonna rip you a new one…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 03:48 PM
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I’m gonna be controversial on this sub and say that as a South Asian, being 5’10 has actually been a positive for me. I’ve been called tall on occasion. Maybe it’s because people expect Indians to be short?? I mean if you’re a white dude and 5’10 I do feel sorry for you because your dads are probably all like 5’8 at least so something must have gone wrong genetically. My dad was legit 5’5 so it’s a miracle I made it to this height.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:55 PM
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Entitlement to want someone that also has a good career?? False. It would be entitled if I was making 15 bucks an hour and demanded my partner earn 6 figures. Don’t know what your problem is and why you’re so mad. If you want a referral to my company I’m happy to provide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:36 PM
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Yes, it is nearly impossible? I don’t get your comment. I’m a rarity, Ive made that very clear even in my original comment. Nearly impossible /= not possible
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:31 PM
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What’s wrong with a guy that’s 5’10? 5’11??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:28 AM
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Damn that sounds crazy lol. Sounds like a win-win to me. I decided to be a scaredy cat and join one of the most stable companies out there with full cash TC but I definitely wanna join a startup or unicorn in a couple years like you to risk it for the upside. Just wanna build a decent nest egg before that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:52 AM
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The offers are from trading firms in NYC. Citadel hours are definitely 60+ but an offer from Jane Street/HRT/Jump/Five Rings/etc can all be upwards of 400k for new grad and swe’s only work 40-50 hours at these places. Thanks, I was surprised Bloomberg pays so well, especially seeing as how I’m pretty incompetent and definitely nothing special.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:41 AM
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I’ve been in a shut-in the past few years but hoping to emulate your work hard play hard attitude soon lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:39 AM
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Hey good for you man! That’s a super good TC for 25 yrs old. And yeah I totally agree with you. Another thing people forget to keep in mind is that imo making good money when you are younger is much more valuable than when you are older and have no desire to do anything or have health problems. I’d rather be able to live it up in my 20s. And if you work for faang companies or equivalent a net worth of 1 million+ is extremely feasible by the time you are 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:37 AM
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You could be a “bad” software engineer and still make decent money
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:16 AM
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Software engineer. Doesn’t take any special intelligence, just a lot of hard work
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:10 AM
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Sorry to hear that. I am by no means intelligent or talented but I’m extremely stubborn and won’t give up until I reach my goals. And I’m doing fine financially speaking
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:03 AM
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What do you mean by “dumb”? Like having some sort of mental disability? Most people are “dumb” because they don’t apply themselves. You could even be a twitch streamer, gamer, tiktoker, etc and make good money. Don’t have to be smart to be wealthy anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:46 AM
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Thanks! CapOne is a great company; good wlb and people usually leave it for faang so there’s good exits
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:44 AM
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I think nowadays there are a lot of avenues to make money. It’s not even about intelligence, it’s about discipline and not giving up. Even if you are working a fast food job, you could be going to school part time and try to get a better, more stable job that way. Not like once you work at McDonald’s you are stuck there forever. It’s about ambition and really wanting to improve your situation
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:43 AM
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That’s awesome!! Good for you, I definitely could not go to school that long, not disciplined enough 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:42 AM
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Ok I think we are in agreement, sorry if I came off as harsh in any way. This is a bit personal to me because my parents were really upset when I didn’t wanna pursue medicine and I had to explain to them why tech is better in terms of just making money lol. I wish I was selfless like my doctor friends, but mad props to them, they deserve the respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:39 AM
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No, and Stripe is mostly paper money. Don’t think they’ll ipo anytime soon either. I got an offer from Bloomberg
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:36 AM
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Lol it’s so shocking that someone has family in medicine ig. Not all of us on this forum come from trailer trash. And you are still missing the point. Becoming a doctor is amazing. Do it for stability, respect, being able to help others, being able to make breakthroughs in the health field, etc. Money?? Better options out there. You won’t make it past residency anyway if you are only focused on optimizing your income
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:34 AM
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Huh? What are you even talking about? Go to school -> Do well-> get a good job. Where is McDonald’s in this equation??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:32 AM
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I got an all cash offer for 200k and this is at one of the “lower tier” fintech firms lol. I have friends making nearly double my salary at the same age (22)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:31 AM
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Most of my family is in medicine. Avg length of residency is 5 to 7 years even without fellowship. There’s just no way you think people are becoming doctors at 29 lmao. Let’s just say this is some fantasy world and you are correct. That’s still 7 years that your other friends have been making 6 figures, saving, investing, gaining wealth from compounded returns from the stock market, and most likely in a senior position at their company or maybe even higher
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:25 AM
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Doctors are wealthy, my main point is that if you want to optimize for TC it’s a pretty stupid career to go into. Btw you clearly don’t understand how debt works or tax works or really anything. It’s not like if you make 250k and your debt is 230k you can pay it off in 2 years lmao. Hey nice timeline. Newsflash though: half of all med school students take a gap year or even 2 before starting. Residency and fellowship and completing all requirements to be a licensed physician takes 7 years so I’m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:15 AM
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I’ve said this time and time again. Doctor = rich is the biggest, laughable misconception I’ve ever seen in my life. You will be in your early to mid 30s before you start making money and it won’t be a lot right away since you are only just beginning to practice. Also, you’ll most likely have 6 figures of student loan debt aka loads of fun!!! Doctor = stable and respected is more like it. Don’t become a doctor to make money for the love of god. There are much better career paths for that. Compar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:56 PM
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I’m moving to your country asap
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 09:54 PM
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Yeah I’ve seen this happen to a friend mine that’s overweight and unattractive. He got really close to a girl over a ~6 month period and the girl fell in love with him but still admitted she didn’t find him physically attractive. But still wanted to have sex with him??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:23 PM
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It’s like that meme with Henry Caville in glasses lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:12 PM
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Lol I haven’t moved yet. Moving soon due to RTO
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:00 PM
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I’ve seen some women have a sort of cat-shaped eye which is super cool, but imo men’s eye shape doesn’t vary that much, but I might be wrong? Mine are sort of regular, almond-shaped
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:20 PM
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I’m jealous of guys with blue/green eyes. Dark brown eyes are legit the most boring thing ever. Luckily I won’t be passing down my genes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:54 PM
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Many software developer jobs are paying 6 figures now straight out of college. Check out this website: www.levels.fyi And software engineering does not require “contacts” so I don’t know what you are talking about. This isn’t investment banking. I got a phone round from a recruiter that found my LinkedIn and after that it was all performance-based. Nepotism is almost non-existent in engineering - you need the requisite skills or else you’re not getting the offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:15 PM
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Exactly. Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:12 PM
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I’m a software developer at a fintech company at Manhattan. Do you want me to send you my pay stubs or something?? I won’t deny that it was extremely hard for me to get this job; it was a combination of studying for nearly a year, graduating from a top school, and getting lucky. But that’s disrespectful to assume just because something is difficult that we are lying about it. I optimized for my career and it worked out. I’m also 22 and have never kissed a girl or been on a date, and that’s suppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:12 PM
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Yep, I do. I’ll admit there are times when I feel pangs of jealousy towards my friends, and self doubt. They definitely take life much easier than I do and being in a relationship and having kids is something special, I won’t deny it - but it’s just not for me. They respect that I have my own goals though outside of having a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:09 PM
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Sorry to hear that. There are definitely other men like me who do value a women’s job/career and if she can hold an intelligent conversation over having blond hair or anything appearance-related. Hope you find that guy!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:07 PM
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No but that’s why I said that I’d be ok with being with a woman that was at least ambitious aka had a set career path or goal in mind and was working towards it, not just sitting on the couch and swiping through tiktok. And that stripper example is not fair at all. You knew what I meant in my original comment. If an OnlyFans girl was making 7 figures a month that wouldn’t matter to me; compatibility is important and that’s also not the type of women I’d want to bring home to my parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:05 PM
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Ok and most men are also not high-earning professionals. Did you even read my comment? I literally said most men here don’t care about a woman’s job - unless they make a lot of money and prioritize their career as well. And there’s only a small percentage of guys like that. But if you look at Silicon Valley couples for instance, both husband and wife are usually earning well into the 6 figures. But again, like 95% of men don’t care as long as a woman can’t support herself, I agree with you. My p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:01 PM
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No, it doesn’t and you’re right. But those are things I personally value. Just like some women have weird and unexplainable preferences, often ones that men are born with it, I’m allowed my own preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:50 PM
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Lol no you have a point, I’m the only one out of my own friend group and guys I know that doesn’t want kids so yes I realize my not being interested in having children is very uncommon. And congrats on your career success, hope to be there at 26 too :).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:18 AM
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I mean I’m 22, I’m probably a lot younger than you so my interests are going to be different. I don’t care for a traditional marriage, I want an equal partner in all aspects, whether that be household chores or earning money. I’m not looking to have kids either, so we might differ in that regard. Also I never said that “all” low earning people don’t care about a women’s job, I just implied that that’s the case for most. Because career is not a priority for them, and that’s totally ok. Edit: and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:01 AM
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Haha how could I forget that 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:41 AM
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I completely agree that just because a woman is high earning doesn’t mean she’ll be an interesting person. But I’ve met quite a few UMC woman that are very good conversationalists and have interests outside of social media and shopping - that’s a huge plus for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:46 AM
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I’m probably making more than 99% of people my age and I’ve seen some questionable comments on this post already, most likely from low earning people who somehow fill this sub, or worse, unemployed college kids that think they know everything. I want to right away dispel this weird notion that men don’t care about a women’s job. I absolutely do care. I’m a high earning man with a solid net worth, why don’t I deserve a high earning women? It’s also a great way of avoiding gold diggers. Also, I en…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:30 AM
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Wow what a response. Hats off
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:27 AM
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“Take a shower and drink more water you incel”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:00 PM
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4th bullet point killed me holy fk dude 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:59 PM
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I 100% agree with this. Especially the part about it being insulting to set up a low-value guy with one of her female friends. And when exactly do these “set-ups” happen? Is it usually around late 20s or maybe even early 30s? I’m in my early 20s and I’ve never heard of any of my peers getting set up by one of their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:44 PM
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I don’t think it’s morally ok at all and I would definitely distance myself from that guy. And I would feel pity for the girl. But at the end of the day they are both adults and it’s none of my business
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:40 PM
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Well I sort of agree but I feel like you’re missing the point. Women begin to “settle” because as they grow older and (hopefully) more mature, they realize that a man having dirty blonde hair, being tall, having tattoos, being ripped, etc don’t exactly guarantee that he’ll be a good husband and/or father. Basically, they stop thinking with their vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:17 PM
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As for me, I started drinking more water and now the babes won’t stop coming
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:12 AM
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Yeah, well said. This sub is definitely skewed towards a certain niche of people who definitely don’t represent everyone. Tons of average women that end up with average guys and lead…you guessed it, very average lives. But people tend to focus on extremes, so I’m not surprised. My friends are objectively short, not very attractive, not educated, and make minimum wage and they seem to be doing fine in terms of dating. They don’t hookup with models, but they do ok
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:06 PM
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Wtf. I’m curious, could you describe him. Tall, brown hair, blue eyes, muscular??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:53 PM
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Idk…this is a bit different from what I usually post but after having a couple recent experiences. I wanna disagree with you. Most of my average friends have recently got into relationships with other average women. I’m above average in a lot of aspects, but haven’t been in a relationship yet. What I’m seeing is that people in general want to be with other people similar to them. I think if anything, I’m almost pricing myself out of the market. I recently found out one of my woman friends had a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:36 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:19 AM
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I’m moving to NYC soon for a new job so hopefully things get better for me. I would say I lean towards introverted-ness but I’m not a total shut-in. I don’t drink or go to bars or nightclubs so I think that’s a pretty major hit for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:51 AM
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Lol on this sub you’ll find guys are weirdly obsessed with women’s age. They think women “expire” by a certain age but that’s just a sad mentality to have. I just want someone socially and financially responsible, and interesting, and older women tend to fit that bill
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:23 AM
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I’m either in my apartment, at the gym, or at work. Once in a while I’ll go for groceries or to eat out but that’s basically it. I’m in an area where there’s barely any young people. I do think I’m a catch but my circumstances definitely limit me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 11:31 PM
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Seems like nowadays half of them talk about either tiktok, euphoria, or where they wanna vacation next
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:34 PM
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LOL ok this made me laugh out loud fr
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:33 PM
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That’s a good point, but still, there’s more to that when it comes to having a fulfilling, long-lasting relationship. I just feel like I couldn’t connect to a 20 year old if I was in my mid 30s. Not much to really talk about. It we’re being honest, it would basically just be for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:55 PM
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That’s pretty sad. Only a small percentage of men will look better in their 30s than they do in their 20s. And it comes down to taking care of yourself, having money, genetics, and luck
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:24 PM
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As a guy, the last type of women I would go for if I was in my 30s is a woman in her early 20s. The majority of them are immature, entitled, and annoying. I never understood why 30 yr old guys wanna date women that young, just not worth it imo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:06 PM
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I’m 5’10 so I don’t think my height is a huge issue, and I do go to the gym but I’m definitely not “big” so I could work on that for sure. And you’re definitely right on the nerdy part - being an engineer definitely does not help. It is what it is, but thanks for the advice
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:17 AM
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It’s funny because dark skin actually offers a lot of advantages. Lower chance of skin cancer, look better when aging due to less wrinkles, less chance of getting a sunburn (have personally never gotten one before). But yeah regardless, sun screen is super important. I hope you learn to accept yourself because people will always criticize us for things we can’t change
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:09 AM
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You seem to be an extremely racist white women judging from your comment history, so I won’t engage further. It’s actually pretty cool finally getting to see one up close. Anyway, enjoy your ban soon
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:54 AM
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Hey, I’m down with that. Sorry if my last reply was curt. What I meant to say was that nowadays women can call you creepy for a million different reasons, without any justification, and they will always be believed as the “victims”. In your hypothetical scenario, you assume the women is mature and a good person. There are a lot of women that will randomly Me Too even the most innocent of approaches because they want attention or are bored. So all I’m saying is it’s not that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:15 AM
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Yeah no, that’s not how it works. Are a lot more guys would be comfortable with approaching women in public
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:00 AM
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Ok but my point is that you are skipping a whole bunch of steps to get to the “fall in love” part. You argue that height doesn’t matter once a women falls in love with you. But women tend to fall in love with taller men. So doesn’t height matter then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:53 AM
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That’s such a contrived argument dude. After a women falls in love?? Ok? Isn’t that the main question? What would make her fall in love more, 5’10 or 6’3?? It’s all part of the equation, it’s not an after thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:40 AM
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Too much irony in her comment. And Asian women putting down Asian men? Water is wet
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:14 AM
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Lol Jesus Christ that sounds painful. Uhh because the penis is just a sexual organ? Why would there have to be any correlation? There are billions of Asian guys, maybe in average they tend to be smaller but I’m sure there are still millions of 7+ inch guys
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:28 AM
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Because Asian guys are usually much more humble, than, say black guys and culturally value telling the truth more. How many men even participated in that study?? I imagine not many. Sample size being small makes the data completely inept
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:23 AM
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Huh? What are you talking about? There’s wealthy Chinese and Japanese men are pretty tall on average. The vast majority of the rest of the population is at poverty levels. That’s the way asia works - there’s a huge economic/wealth disparity. The avg Japanese salarymen literally makes peanuts. He won’t have enough food to reach his full potential height
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:22 AM
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Height is actually measurable at any doctor’s or medical office. No one goes around with a tape measure, measuring guys dicks…. Like I said, penis size is largely self-reported and those studies are outdated whereas data for height is updated almost yearly. But I’m done arguing with you. I feel sorry for you if you just write off a whole ethnicity of men as short, small-dicked losers. Even if that were true on average, you’re missing out on hidden gems. Your loss
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:20 AM
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Lol all 5 of your Asian female friends? And I’m being generous with 5. Amazing. Guess you’ve seen every Asian guys penis at this point, congrats. Keep doubting btw, I’m very proud of my penis size.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:18 AM
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Being 6’5 or taller puts you in the 99.8th percentile for height. Meaning that out of 330 million people in the US, only 660k are that tall or taller. Some of those men will be ugly af, some of those men will be criminals, druggies, rapists, have mental issues, be emotionally unavailable, etc. good luck choosing from that small of a pool of men. Not to mention if what you are saying is true about them being the most desirable men, the competition will be fierce. So again, totally useless point. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:17 AM
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And you believe everything you read on the internet? I could say the same thing as an Asian guy - stereotypes don’t apply to me cause I have a big dick
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:09 AM
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First of all, there are very, very, very few men at that height to the point that it is non-negligible to even discuss. A man of that height will most likely have back problems, have a shorter life span, and struggle to do a lot of normal life things. Custom-tailored clothes, custom seats in a car, sitting on a plane would be terrible, etc. And I didn’t realize you were the ambassador for all women. Also didn’t realize women love having to use a step ladder every time they want to kiss their man…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:09 AM
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Well…it has been obliterated. Height is not some fancy thing. It’s environment and genetics. If you are in a third world shit hole like asia ofc you’ll most likely not make it past 5’5. But come to the US where Asians are making 6 figures and eating super healthy and within one generation we are catching up in height. My dad is from India and is 5’5 and I’m 5’10. If I ever have a son with a women that is not short he’d probably end up being 6’1/6’2. Height can progress very fast given the right …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:06 AM
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No because it’s very hard to get updated census data for that specific niche, and self-reported data when it comes to height is usually false anyway. I speak based off personal experiences. Yes, I realize it’s not the most reliable thing. But you also blanket statement all Asians as being short and thus being the reason they struggle with dating which isn’t true at all. I’ve lived in several large cities and a lot of my asian friends who have yet to be on a single date are in the 5’11-6’2 range,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:00 AM
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Yep, just commented something similar to this. I make 200k and struggle to date, it’s not about money whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:50 AM
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Pretty much just comes down to looks. I’ve lost many a male friend just because they fell for some attractive-looking bimbo. Sad stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:47 AM
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Yeah if you look at her past relationships she’s usually with tall, good-looking guys. And I’m sure tons of women relate to her lyrics, and young girls get subtly influenced
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:05 AM
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I’ll be honest. I remember first hearing these lyrics and rolling my eyes super hard because she was basically pining for the typical Chad. Not to mention she’s been in like 30 relationships so clearly the problem is her
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:50 AM
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If you are not trolling, you are truly one of a kind. Most women are very picky with their attraction towards men. Or else there wouldn’t be so many desperate, single guys everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:46 PM
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Ok well you very well know the answer to that - we are civilized human beings. You are clearly diverting from the main point - most women do not have a strong sexuality whatsoever. It takes a LOT for them to be attracted to a guy. All the right variables have to be there
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:44 PM
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How many men even do that? Nice straw man Btw male dogs hump other male dogs as a form of dominance, aggression, or play.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:43 PM
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Like 1 in 30 guys??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:41 PM
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Hate to break it to you, but that’s literally attraction lol. Sorry, biology isn’t very pretty or kid friendly. If a male mammal is attracted to a female mammal, it’ll want to stick its dick in her. The end. I don’t want to stick my dick in a guy because I’m not attracted to men. I am attracted to women. If there is no sexual attraction, there is no relationship- it’ll just be friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 04:54 PM
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Very few women are actually straight in the sense that they like men. Instead, they like what men can do for them or what it would like to their girl friends when they are in a happy relationship with a high-value guy. It’s similar to a women purchasing a luxury handbag. They aren’t in love with the handbag, they just like the way it makes them feel and the way they are perceived positively by other people. Case in point: very few women can look at a stranger guy and be attracted to him instantl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 04:18 PM
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I don’t really think so. I’m a total shut in. I go to work, the gym, and then back to my apartment. I don’t approach or ask girls out. So it could also be lack of confidence/introverted lifestyle. Also I have friends in relationship but only because they go for low value people imo. I have high standards
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:45 PM
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Hmm really? Green flag for guys? If anything, I’ve gotten more shit from guys for being a virgin. You literally get respect from guys based off how many and the quality of girls you slept with lol. Like others have said, I think at 25+ is when it comes really odd. So I’ve got 2 years left…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:21 AM
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I’m a bottom 80% man in a 1st world country and my life is on Super Easy mode. My biggest concerns on a daily basis are which movie I’m gonna watch, what restaurant I want to go out to, and where I should vacation this year
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 02:38 PM
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I completely agree. The most important thing right now to women when it comes to finding a partner seems to be a guy’s status - since women tend to have a much lower sex drive and don’t really need men anymore since they are self-sufficient. Now obviously guys with high status tend to also be attractive and rich, but the most important thing is being famous; women want to be able to say “hey look girls I’m with this guy”, kind of like a flex. That’s why these Hollywood women are so happy to pass…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:25 AM
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I can answer as one of “those” guys. Nothing. Nothing will happen because no one cares. We’ll just continue to put our heads down and work like dogs and jerk off to release the sexual tension while watching other people get to have healthy relationships and experience real love. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:00 AM
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Man are you seriously equating balding to being paraplegic? 2/3rd of men by age 30 are balding while only 200k Americans out of 330 million are paraplegic. One of those seriously limits life and the other one is literally just an appearance issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:21 PM
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Balding isn’t really fair, there’s nothing you can do about that because it’s genetic, like being short. Everything else can be fixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 08:16 PM
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Liked a girl in middle school. She made me write poems about how beautiful she is. Essentially led me on for months. Finally, she and her friends laughed at me and asked me why I thought someone like me could be with a girl like her. Was also one of the first times I learned about “leagues”. Painful experience to say the least. Never pursued another girl after that Edit: Last I heard of her, she’s with some tall, white, track-star dude. Good for her
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:51 PM
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Nope, don’t think I have. Whenever I’m in a group setting with guys + girls I feel completely invisible, and the only time I’ve been alone with a girl is if it’s for a group project or she needed help with homework or something. The majority of my life has been spent on furthering my education/career to be fair; I’ve only recently been trying to live a more balanced life. Thanks, that’s definitely something I’m considering. Maybe in a year or 2 I’ll go for the match-making option because like yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:41 PM
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Absolutely. I discover new things everyday so I'm well aware that the information I have to work and operate with is probably incredibly limited. Scary stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:16 AM
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Yeah that's true, I attended a pretty wealthy high school. Still annoying to see
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:10 AM
1

Haha thanks. Guess I'll sit back and wait for 8+ years
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:10 AM
2

Engineers are notorious for only dating other high earning women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:18 AM
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Why do people always use doctors as an example of a wealthy person, I genuinely don’t understand. Engineers make more money every step of the way compared to doctors and don’t have to deal with an excruciating amount of debt or crazy working hours and stress.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:12 AM
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TIL I am the 5%
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:10 AM
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Well I definitely am attracted to women, just very few of them. I think it’s definitely a confidence issue. And the fact that my parents actively discouraged dating for most of my life. Also I don’t drink so I don’t go to bars or nightclubs or anything like that so that might be a big problem. There’s no way to prove it on the internet but I’m definitely not socially awkward, but I do get insecure and I’ve never asked a girl out before. But I would need very clear signs that she’s attracted to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:59 PM
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Well said. A lot of ppl don’t realize this is how most arranged marriages go
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:51 PM
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Man I knew it. Fuck those simps. I’ve been seeing girls from my high school and college (that I follow on insta) somehow be able to travel the world on a whim and eat at Michelin star restaurants. And I know for a fact these girls are either unemployed or work a min wage job. I knew something was fishy. Meanwhile I have to work for every damn penny. Love it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:49 PM
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Fuck me…I guess I’ll be the one weirdo that actually answers this. I want to apologize in advance btw, I don’t want people think I’m some whiny cry baby irl, obviously everything on the internet (and definitely this subreddit) is exaggerated…but here goes nothing: Never kissed, hugged, held hands, flirted, gone on a date, etc with a women. I’m in my early 20s. I make close to 200k, and am in a field/career with a lot of room to grow my compensation over the coming years. Graduated from a top 20 …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:38 AM
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Thank you for actually understanding, and your insight is very helpful. Wish we were all more understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:49 PM
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Updated numbers around 1 out of 20 guys get swiped on. So about 5%. 20% is grossly outdated
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:05 PM
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If he’s a male and has a penis then he’ll want sex. Dead giveaway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:44 PM
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If your friend isn’t able to find what she wants, then that means she’s aiming far too high. That’s how SMV works. When people say this to men, no one blinks an eye. She’s a 40 year old woman - by default her value is already heavily capped as youth is a huge factor in a woman’s SMV. Next, you go on to say that the bar is on the floor for men yet make fun of guys that are earning 80k (even in HCOL this is above average) and go to the gym for 6+ months. So men that are doing well for themselves a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:31 PM
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Lol this guy thinks 30% of guys are walking around making 80k as individual earners and have been going to the gym for at least 6 months consistently. This sub is a complete and utter joke. Maybe if some of these incels actually walked outside for some fresh air, they’d see the vast majority of American men are overweight and poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:28 PM
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And? You seem to believe that men and women are exactly the same. Men have a much higher sex drive and want for casual sex. There are a lot of attractive women with low N counts, but I can't say the same for attractive guys. Nearly every attractive man has slept around because he can and why wouldn't he?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 10:43 PM
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From your other comments I’m not sure if you’re trolling or not. You want an attractive guy that hasn’t “been inside” other women and will give you his full commitment (keep in mind this guy is college-aged) and is also not religious?? Why in the hell would a guy like this be a virgin or even have a low N count then?? You’re essentially trying to look for a unicorn. You also seem to want to approach guys. You’ll be probably be posting this same thing in 5-10 years because you’re not finding a gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 10:30 PM
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Well that’s exactly my point…why would they? They wouldn’t, and you’re right on that. What I meant is that if they did for some unknown reason, things would actually change because ppl actually give a shit about when women complain. And to your last point, I would say life is never fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:55 AM
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Exactly and nothing is happening there. Japanese government doesn’t give a shit. The men are buying body pillows at this point. US is headed straight for that territory and as long as women don’t care and aren’t marching on the streets like for their issues nothing will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:22 PM
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Never. There’s the answer. Sorry but there’s not gonna be some uprising anytime within either of our lives. There’s still a large amount of men that do have healthy dating and sex lives. As long as the elite guys are still getting some, nothing is gonna change, so I wouldn’t sit on my hands too long if I were you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:29 PM
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Well said. To all the PPD men reading my comment…look, life isn’t fair. I get it, it sucks. I mean believe me, I wish I could change things. But this is how it is for us unfortunately. Either you sit and complain, you go MGTOW, or you use red pill to arm yourself with more knowledge about how reality works and NOT the BS women will tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:45 PM
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You’re basically MGTOW lol. There are a lot of guys like you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:55 AM
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If any of you know me irl just describe me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:59 PM
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Congrats on finding that guy :). Those all sound like very reasonable standards to me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:45 PM
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Yeah just go to the gym and you’ll be drowning in puss soon /s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:44 PM
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Absolutely - what kind of question is this?! If anything, women I’m attracted to won’t give my the time of day so my interactions with women are largely with those I’m not attracted to, and many of them are my friends or coworkers. If anything, it seems to me that women only want to interact with guys they are attracted to. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve seen a large group of girls with 1 or 2 guys, both whom like the stereotypical “cool” tiktoker F boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:02 PM
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All of what you said seems pretty reasonable to me. I guess the “shallow” part might be the fact that you want an attractive guy? Do you mean like decently attractive, takes care of himself type, or like Chris Hemsworth, male model type of man?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:59 PM
1

I have an athletic build and am very financially successful but have had to lower my standards to below ground level.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 06:42 PM
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I’m almost 23 and have not had any woman express interest in me. Haven’t kissed, hugged, gone on a date yet. Haven’t held hands with a woman. Haven’t even texted one. Past behavior is a pretty good predictor of future success. I also have introverted hobbies and am shy. I work a job (software engineering) that has minimal interaction with women. And anyway, it’s not professional to flirt with women at the workplace. Majority of my time is spent either working or going to the library. I just don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 05:38 AM
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Yeah I think you should just opt out of the whole kids thing; you’re being a hypocrite. Don’t dilute the gene pool
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:30 AM
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Easier said than done. When you have 0 success with women it’s hard to have an air of confidence and happiness or whatever BS constantly. Unless he just fakes it or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:20 PM
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Traveled a lot, but only with family/friends. I don’t think I’ll ever solicit a sex worker because it’s mostly illegal, idk if the girl is getting trafficked, and I want a girl to actually like me not force it. I set age range super wide, and demographics can’t change much unless I move, but I’d say I’m in a pretty diverse area. I don’t think even POC girls want to date my ethnicity. They usually go for white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:11 PM
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“Just” finding sex?? I’m nearly 23 and haven’t even kissed a girl yet. What you describe sounds like a blessing to me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:10 PM
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They couldn’t give less of a shit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:36 PM
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I’ve said this multiple times before; stop basing your opinions of all women from what some ppd women have told you. The average ppd woman is around 40 and married to an average, middle class man. Of course she’s gonna say money doesn’t matter that much. Now try asking a woman in her mid 20s who is actively looking for a partner whether a guys financial status matters or not. I will say one thing; if you are unattractive (my case), no amount of money will make up for that. You need to pass the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 01:52 PM
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Sucks but you speak the truth. Seen my female cousin legit swipe left on 25 guys in a row, each one within a millisecond, before finally swiping right on the most generic 6’4 Chad ever. Dating apps are just trash
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:32 AM
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I get what you mean, but at the same time you are assuming that all of that attention is bad. I would rather fish in a big pond than a small pond. There are many women out there that seem to be perpetually in a relationship. If one ends, they can find another boyfriend within days.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:31 PM
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I should’ve put a /s clearly… I’m just saying why some women get triggered about mate guarding. Me personally? Couldn’t care less
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:48 PM
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If you are not at least 2 of these: tall, white, or good looking (7+), it’s a complete waste of time. You can have the best personality in the world and be a super intelligent, caring person but you won’t be able to show it after you get swiped left on within seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:13 PM
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This is the answer. End of thread. It’s the guy’s insecurity (subtle beta vibes) that makes people angry. He should be “secure” enough
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:11 PM
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Absolutely, without hesitation. The thought that there’s a very good chance I’ll be alone for the rest of my life as it is terrifies me - I’d be ok taking an increased chance of finding love even if it meant taking on an increased risk of danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 07:43 PM
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Most PPD women are gonna say no because they are old so they don’t care about that stuff, most of them already have a partner that’s most likely some generic white guy, and lastly, no one wants to admit that they have a shallow preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:22 PM
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Go outside and do what exactly? Most women that go to public places are either already taken, with their friends and trying to just have fun, or alone and don’t want to be disturbed. And if you think womens’ standards are somehow lower off dating apps you’re delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 06:06 AM
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How exactly does one lower his standards if he literally gets 0 matches??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:16 AM
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Of course every women here is gonna say yes. Because they don’t actually know how it feels to be invisible, they just like the thought of it. Just like how I don’t know how it feels to be inundated with horny weirdos. Empathy is a 2 way street and both genders are failing at it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:14 AM
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Spot on. I don’t know if this guy is that delusional or this is just a subtle flex; either way, a very weird post indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 05:04 AM
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This is exactly what I was thinking lmao. This guy wouldn’t last one day in my shoes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 03:47 AM
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That pairing has always confused me. I mean…jay Z? Ig he’s technically tall and rich. And he does seem to exude confidence despite his…”lacking” appearance. Plus he’s cheated on her multiple times
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:51 PM
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I mean you may find it humorous because you are in a privileged situation, but some of these guys really have no other choice than to exhibit this sort of weird behavior. As men, we know it’s a numbers game so there are legit guys out there that don’t care at all about appearance; as long as you are a women you meet the requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 01:00 AM
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I’m shocked that so many people are putting unnecessary points into income. And I suspect it’s because most of the men here are relatively poor. I hope you guys realize that if you are good looking enough, you can make tons of money off that. You think those tiktok millionaire guys are actually talented? Or you can always model, which makes a decent income and gives you a bit of status. Maybe I’m black pulled, but I’d put the majority of my points into looks and build. Life gets much, much easie…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:27 PM
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Yeah for sure; sexual compatibility is important. That’s definitely something I need to consider. Also I want to apologize for making assumptions/generalizing. There are of course some crazy smart and accomplished frat guys and not all nerdy looking guys are actually intelligent/successful. You sound very well-rounded btw, that’s great to hear because that’s how I’m tryna be eventually lmao. I guess what I meant is if the woman in question had a long history of dating guys that were kind of…”los…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:13 PM
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Ok but that doesn’t mean they are desperate lol. I have tons of software engineer friends that complain about being single but I promise you if some random woman they didn’t find attractive approached them it would be a “oh but not you tho” kind of situation. Like if they really wanted to they could find someone, but they are picky and they also whine about it. And it’s because they can since some women, believe it or not, are attracted to money. Also dating guys that make double your salary is …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:00 PM
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What do you make? Over 80k as well? Also, we software engineers usually only date other software engineers or highly intelligent women in other professional fields. Only the finance/business guys do the whole trophy wife thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:49 PM
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Yeah I’m 22. I would prefer to lose my virginity to my lifelong partner, but I realize that not everything happens as planned. Thank you for the advice, I appreciate it! 2 - 10 partners is OK with me, but if the girl has had, say, 10 hookups and those guys are all the typical frat looking guys, then suddenly wants an LTR with me I’d be a little bit wary lol. Because I’d described myself as pretty nerdy, high-earning (career/education focused), conservative, stable. Great for LTR, but invisible i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:44 PM
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No haha, I’m a bit um late in that regard. Haven’t been in any relationships and am still a virgin. So I would like to be with a women that’s similarly inexperienced. But I’m well aware that the chances of that are low so I’m more than ok with being with a women that has a high (but not super high) n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 10:35 PM
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I graduated a year ago. It’s not about realistic or unrealistic, these are my personal preferences. I’m more than happy to be single rather than be with someone I feel like I would be incompatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 09:14 PM
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I’ve started to notice a fundamental problem with this sub. I know, I know, cue the “it took you THIS long to figure it out?” comments…well yes, yes it did cause I’m slow, what can I say. The problem is the men on this sub are mostly in their 20s and 30s trying to go for women in their early 20s, and the women are usually 40+ and married. So we men have seen hypergamy and shallowness front and center from these women in their early 20s because they are at their sexual peak and have tons of optio…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:08 PM
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Well then I definitely agree with you cause that’s weird to feel actual pain lol. I would just be a little disappointed but if I really love the person then I’m sure I’d get over it quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:00 PM
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If you are referring to my comment, nowhere did I say or imply this. It comes from a sense of incompatibility and fundamental difference. All I said was that it would be tough for me (as someone who’s never been in a relationship previously) to basically hear that my partner has been with 3 other dudes somewhere out there, shared countless memories with them, and most likely done deep, intimate stuff with them. But I’m sure I’d move on eventually. My own parents, siblings, cousins have all only …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 03:57 PM
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That’s not really fair. First of all, I’m not religious so that point is completely nonsensical. It’s a personal value/moral of mine; as a 22 year old who has not been in any relationships or slept with anyone yet, I just feel I’d be most compatible with a woman that is also similarly inexperienced. I never made a value judgement on people with high n-counts, and I expect the same back. Telling me I need therapy because I feel a bit of discomfort being with someone that has a much different sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 03:54 PM
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Thanks for sharing your experience. Tbh I’ve had similar experiences. I’m well aware that the average 22 year old woman has most likely had multiple partners at this point, it’s just that it’s still tough for me to digest lol. But I’m totally ok with being with an awesome girl that has had a couple partners previously, it’s just that it would probably take some getting used to is all. And I wouldn’t want to hear about those past relationships at all. Hookups would be much harder to justify. Also…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 03:48 PM
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22 M, if a woman of the same age told me she’s been with more than 5 guys, that would personally be a lot for me, and most likely a deal breaker. Even 3 different guys wouldn’t feel great to hear about tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 02:34 PM
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I believe that evolution has had its part in guiding modern behaviors, but a very small and increasingly meaningless part. Women are not gathering berries and men are not hunting for meat. Women are not in any immediate danger and they can make their own money, and often outearn men. Their choices are no longer out of necessity, but want, which leads to stupid choices. Especially in 1st world countries where we have the privilege of excess and debauchery is encouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 05:40 AM
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Yeah sorry, not really buying that women go for “quality” when literal rapists and child molesters have had multiple girlfriends throughout their life. Even the damn Robb elementary school shooter had a gf, I mean give me a break about the “selection/quality” crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 05:15 AM
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Ok got it, so this is just something that you need to take daily for years?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 06:12 PM
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Ok got it, ty for the info. And has it seemed to work for you so far? Does it also work just to maintain hair? Cause I still have a lot of hair it’s just I’ve noticed a bit of thinning recently. Like I don’t have a bald spot or anything yet, hairline is receding very slightly though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 05:50 PM
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Any long term effects for that stuff? At least it doesn’t seem too expensive…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 05:29 PM
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Mrs degree is OP
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:35 PM
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Idk if I’m balding or not at 22 but I definitely have bad hair genetics cause it’s super annoying to try to style, and my hair doesn’t grow much in general. It’s just weird. Then I see guys like Timothee Chalamet a couple years older than me have insanely good hair or Brad Pitt’s luscious locks in The Lost City and it’s like wtf. Maybe in Hollywood they use some special hair medications or maybe I just have terrible genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:30 PM
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I think guys that care about that are just privileged tbh. I’d be happy to get a kiss or hug at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 02:49 PM
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That’s an extreme example, I guarantee you some men are so desperate they would still go for that type of women. I’ve seen my own friends fall in love with extremely unattractive women. If those unattractive women wanted to, they could probably get at least one date a week. An unattractive guy can go years without getting a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:39 PM
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Sorry if I misinterpreted; I just assumed calling something a “basic component” implies that it’s simple/easy to achieve. Aside from that, I definitely agree with what you are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:26 PM
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What ticks me off is that an inch, is an arbitrary, man-made measurement. It means nothing. It’s not natural. Someone out there decided that a certain height is equal to “six feet” and women just ran with it. Something about how it’s even and sounds good, and that there are so few men that meet that requirement appealed to them. Because women love exclusive stuff, things they can “show off”. After all, they make up the majority of current consumers, and even more so for luxury goods. Nearly ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:47 PM
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Your entire first paragraph is nonsense. It might be “basic” in theory but walk outside and tell me how many people are actually all of those things. Maybe one or two of those categories at best. You imply that it’s easy but clearly it’s not if such a small subset of the human population is able to achieve all those things (physically healthy and fit, professionally growing, outside interests, and developed social skills). Like for example I personally think that it’s pretty easy to not be overw…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:45 PM
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I semi-agree with you. What I want to argue about is the reason why men are frustrated is a bit different from what you are saying. Sure, it’s not fair that men are assigned Herculean tasks in order to “deserve love” while women can show up in pajamas and have multiple options to choose from. But life isn’t fair so that’s more of a thing that you just shrug your shoulders at. It sucks but that’s how it is. And I’ve seen several commenters (mostly women) suggest that it’s good anyway to do all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:41 PM
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Nah I definitely mean in a socioeconomic sense. I agree that most couples have the woman being much more attractive than the man. But a man’s value in a relationship isn’t just his looks but it usually has to also do with his career, the money he makes, his education, his upbringing, etc. For example my cousin who most would describe as very attractive recently married a guy that’s pretty average looking so some people were confused (why him) until she tells them he’s a surgeon and then suddenly…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:16 AM
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Pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 12:52 AM
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Sorry, I reread your post and agree with what you are saying. I’m just saying that although men often have unreasonable demands and criticize women for having similarly unreasonable standards, I feel that women still “get away” with actually dating way above her pay grade. That’s the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:03 PM
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But women have the ability to date “up”, and they often do so. So what’s morally right doesn’t really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:53 PM
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Happy to have been part of the poll :). (Even though I rated myself as the lowest) I have to say though that people who rate themselves or other people on a number scale kind of annoy me. I know OP was just doing it for the purposes of data collection and simplicity, but I’ve unfortunately seen people in real life rating others and themselves, unironically. And the people who rate themselves invariably always get a score of 7 or 8. Then again, I guess it’s unrealistic to expect anyone to basical…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:16 PM
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For future reference, most of the women here tend to be older, married, and conservative
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:33 PM
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Idk if it’s that cut and dry. There are still so many above average men that struggle to get dates
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:27 PM
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Fair enough. I’d say most women would have an easy time to get sex, but a relationship is a whole different ball game ig
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:27 PM
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You’re right, I definitely haven’t put myself out there. I guess I’ve just been so focused on school and my career, and my parents sort of caused me to have low self-esteem growing up (tiger parents). Definitely working on it though, once my job stabilizes a bit I want to go out and more and meet new people. I really appreciate the advice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:27 PM
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Nah dude imo you looked the best out of them, but I’m a straight guy so take that with a grain of salt lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:25 PM
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Maybe it’s changed now, because I saw a lot of 6-8 which is definitely above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:24 PM
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True, but the difference is those women will usually have a nice support system/network and voluntarily choose to be single and happy. Can’t say the same for those men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:23 PM
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Oh you mean in terms of approaching women? Yeah I definitely am the type of guy that needs to be friends with the woman first, it’s weird to me to randomly talk to a stranger that could be insane, just cause she’s attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:23 PM
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No, as far as I know I don’t have any severe physical deformities or disorders. I came up with my score because I assume guys from 4/10 to 6/10, by the time they were 22, have probably been in at least one relationship. Which is not the case with me. So although I personally don’t think I’m that bad looking, my experiences thus far paint a much different picture. I just feel like if I was even a 3/10, at this point at least one woman would’ve shown some interest. I mean I’ve interacted with thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:52 AM
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There’s gonna be a lot of over-educated virgin men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 02:38 AM
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Oh wow, 4 cold calls? That’s insane lol. Sorry to hear that though. Idk if this will make you feel better, but I was a varsity athlete all throughout high school and college, have always had low body-fat and a lean build, and it hasn’t helped at all in terms of attracting women. I’d like to consider myself at least average, and some days I’m like “damn who’s that in the mirror”, but I think I’m considered conventionally unattractive just because of my ethnicity and skin color. Like I’m not reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:12 AM
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True, I guess for men our attractiveness is much more holistic. Whether it be personality, voice, mannerisms, the way he carries himself, the way he interacts with others, etc. Like if an attractive guy is rude to a waiter during a date, his chances are basically gone. But I’m sure attractive women can get away with a lot of toxic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:31 PM
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Lol if those are the guys that are saying they’re 7/10 and even 8/10 maybe I’m being a bit too harsh on myself…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:30 PM
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I’ve never had a woman be attracted to me, someone’s gotta be at the bottom unfortunately. I’m trying every day, thanks man I appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:43 PM
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would never approach a woman literally just match with me 0.5/10 absolutely not Edit: I do find it slightly amusing that every guy here has rated himself as above average. Statistically, that doesn’t make much sense, not to mention this is Reddit, not a runway
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:36 PM
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Ig the opinion would be “woman needs to be ready and willing to have sex with the man early on”. I’ve seen a lot of guys on here have that opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:12 PM
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You’ve got very good points that made me think a lot. I think you’re right; I’m definitely in a bubble. I’m 22 and live in a large-ish city. And I usually only interact with UMC “pretty” girls. I’ll definitely pursue a random hobby like the bowling league or volunteering to expand my horizons. Thanks for the suggestions/advice
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:02 PM
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Sex is not important to me at all. To the point that I’m close to being asexual. It would be the last thing on my mind when getting into a relationship. I genuinely can’t believe people sleep together by the 3rd date. I could definitely wait for marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:00 PM
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It’s cause us guys making triple your salary are also struggling
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:15 AM
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Statistics time and time again show that women consider 80+% of men unattractive. The women on this subreddit also admit that there are very few men they consider attractive on a daily basis. Women swipe on around 1 out of 20 men on dating apps. I’m not one of those nuts that believes in 6-6-6 or whatever but it’s absolutely true that women as a whole go for the same 20% or so of men that have a combination of immutable traits. The women that can’t land these guys eventually have to settle with …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 07:00 AM
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In the current dating market, women have all the power. A below average woman has a chance of landing Chad. An average guy is lucky to be looked at by an average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:21 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 06:01 AM
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Maybe Canada is better or something. Im happy for you I really am, because nearly every Indian guy I know in the US is basically perpetually single despite having a great personality, career, body, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:12 AM
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Yes yes I know I should be grateful I don’t live in a 3rd world country. If that’s what you mean, I’ll pass. Boring makes me literally wanna end everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:09 AM
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Well good for you, clearly you’re an outlier. And to answer your last question, a little bit of both. But I don’t think white people are superior in all facets. I think in general they are more attractive, but less intelligent than Indians. They also have a lot of genetic diseases and age poorly. Edit: I hope you realize that the vast majority of this sub are “ethnic guys that lost hope”. Zero matches, no validation or attention from the other gender for over 20 years will affect anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:02 AM
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True. Guess I better get used to it then
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:01 AM
1

Hmm good idea
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:43 AM
1

Idk sometimes it feels like I’m stuck in the Groundhog Day movie
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:43 AM
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Man maybe I should take a vacation. So burnt out from work :/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:43 AM
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Since you’re a short ethnic guy, you’ll most likely be excluded from contributing to the gene pool, and for good reason. It’s just Darwinism. A lot of Indians only made it to modern times because of arranged marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 04:01 AM
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I feel like it’s more early 20s, i.e. 22
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:59 AM
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Life is so boring post-covid. I’m doing so well and I just couldn’t care less. All this money but no desire to use it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:59 AM
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Lol what even is this post. Sounds either fake or a humble brag. No engineer I know types or talks like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:22 PM
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Haha that example sounds suspiciously specific. But yes, I can see what you are getting at. I would love to be with a woman who wasn’t in STEM because…idk I don’t want my life to be STEM 24/7 if that makes sense? It’s just tiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 10:32 PM
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I currently work as a software engineer; fortunately, because investment bankers have to work even more than me, like 80+ hours lol. But yes, I agree with what you said. And my goal is to definitely advance in my career and do interesting work, the cherry on top would of course be to make “impressive money”, but it’s not my main aim. Anyway I definitely don’t wanna come off as ungrateful; even if it hasn’t helped me in terms of dating, financial freedom is wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 10:30 PM
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I apologize, I definitely should have been more clear about my situation, or at least gave you more context. I was making 30k when I lived with my parents, and now making 200k+ living in NYC on my own. So that sort of money doesn’t go that far in NYC, after tax and various expenses, whereas I got to literally save every penny on the 30k salary. Also, I have a finance background so it’s important that I save most of my income, so I live on a very small portion of that income. It’s not like I’m bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:42 PM
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Spot on. The problem is people here are either still in college so they don’t make a single dollar and are in fact riddled in debt, or they work a low-paying job. I’ve already said this before, but I’ve gone from 30k to 200k in terms of compensation and the only difference I see in my life is that I get to save more money and I don’t have to worry about financial instability. Other than that, it’s meaningless when it comes to dating. When women hear about my job or figure out what my income is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 07:46 PM
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I’m simply arguing that looks is way, way more important. And current tends show that women are starting to “date down”. Now only 40% of households have the man as the bread winner. Women are now often out earning men in large cities and graduating at higher rates and numbers from university than men, and many of them either stay single, or date some hot dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 06:47 PM
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This is a cliche that I’ve never believed. Unless the person in question is clearing 7 figures, more money makes very little difference. There are guys that are unemployed and do well with women, and there are guys making over half a million that have yet to go on their first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 06:01 PM
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I don’t disagree with you that average people get married all the time, because women do eventually settle. But I don’t agree with your last point. That’s not fair to say that just because STEM is male-heavy, that that’s the reason why these guys don’t do well with dating. Because that assumes that STEM people only stay within the work bubble. But these guys often do go out, have hobbies, hang out in diverse circles. If you are talking about the small subset of Silicon Valley nerds that don’t sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 06:00 PM
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I literally stopped reading after “good looking male psychologist”. Huh?? Yeah, water is wet. The sky is blue. I don’t think his degree matters. He’s good looking. The very fact that you say people with STEM degrees still struggle to date invalidates your entire post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:35 PM
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It’s basically a societal effort to prevent low value men from dating and relationships. I promise you that if you are an attractive guy, you can pretty much ask women out anywhere with complete impunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:33 PM
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23 years of absolutely no action. Your body learns to adapt. I’m glad because I would be struggling daily, but now it’s not a big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:44 AM
2

Used to be strong, now I’m asexual
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 05:18 AM
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Somehow when I hear the “bar is super low” I feel even worse because I supposedly don’t meet it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 02:08 AM
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The ends don’t justify the means when it comes to expending effort for dating. Compare that to focusing on one’s career. I work in finance, and I can easily double my income with just a couple months of networking and interview prep. This, of course, significantly improves the quality of my life. A girlfriend is not a guarantee that my life will get any better. In fact, there’s a good chance it’ll get worse. I’m lucky to be a guy with a low sex drive so it’s not a big deal for me .
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:48 PM
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Black guys do well in terms of hooking up, not LTR’s. And it’s only the super tall, muscular, masculine ones that have success.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:15 PM
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There are tons of Asians with tan or even dark skin. Or yellow skin
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:16 AM
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Yes, I think it does. For some reason PPD women love to brag about their husbands. You very well know that Asian guys, on average, struggle with dating and yet you come here with your contrived n=1 example of some Korean chad. It would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 06:02 AM
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You must be a special kind of stupid if you don’t realize that many of us were born in the US. Yeah let me just drop all my friends and family and move to a 3rd world country
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:56 AM
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No I meant your input is completely useless as it’s a known fact that korean men do fine with dating. Seems to me like you came here to brag that your husband had no trouble with dating
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:55 AM
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Thanks, I appreciate it. Yeah it’s a bummer, but that’s how it is. Very messed up dating scene here :/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:46 AM
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I’m fine, I just get annoyed with this subs taboo attitude towards race when it comes to dating. I’m not sure why it’s such a bad thing to acknowledge that ethnicity is a barrier for a lot of guys to have decent success when it comes to finding a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:33 AM
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Man, that’s such bullshit. First of all, the majority of Asian guys are nerdy and in accounting or CS or another STEM subject. That’s the reality. And every single dating app statistic has shown that Asian guys are bottom of the barrel in getting swipes and likes. Your comment is extremely toxic and hurtful. It implies that any Asian guy that struggled with dating deserves it and is trash. That’s completely false. Humans are not all rational players, least of all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:20 AM
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Koreans are one of the most sought after guys because of K pop and they have light skin. Doesn’t count at all. Try again
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:05 AM
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This post will be taken down soon because it’s dangerously close to the truth. Sad
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:05 AM
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Not that hard to understand. The most common interracial marriages are between white guys and ethnic girls. That’s the reason why
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:02 AM
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It’s extremely correct. But one small correction: we don’t get to date or marry. Nowadays Asian women are hooking up and ALSO marrying white guys. Asian guys are F tier when it comes to romance or relationships. It’s why we earn so much money instead
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:48 AM
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Sorry to hear that, it’s one of the worst feelings :/. I have female friends but they’re more like mutual friends and one of them has a boyfriend so she’s usually busy. I just feel ignored all the time and it hurts a lot, but I just put my head down and continue to focus on my career.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 04:33 AM
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In college I was known as the “smart guy” ig, because I often got the highest test scores in the class. Girls would ask me to help them with their hw or tutor them for free, and I often did so. Apart from that, I had no interaction with women whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 10:40 PM
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Well I personally feel invisible unless they need something from me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:59 PM
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To the women on here laughing and calling us “temporarily embarrassed Chad” and that “we’re all poor as shit so no need to worry”, just because we don’t go bragging about our wealth similar to how you guys brag about everything else, does not make us poor. There are many extremely well-educated PPD men that are very financially successful but ig that doesn’t really fit the narrative does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:40 PM
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Yeah, plus you could literally just be lying, no way to verify
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:53 AM
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Wow I hope this isn’t true because that’s just setting yourself up to be used tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:53 AM
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Congrats on your financial success! And great to hear that you seem to not be a reckless spender like so many high earners these days. Your last paragraph really opened my eyes. I definitely get it now, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:52 AM
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Thanks for sharing! First of all congrats on your success, very admirable! And I definitely get what you mean now. I guess it sort of starts slipping out in the way you can spend large amounts of money without blinking an eye. And wow that guy really is a jerk, what an awful comment to make about someone who’s doing well for herself .
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:51 AM
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Can someone explain to me how the hell women can tell if a guy is well off or not? To all the commenters that are talking about how guys with more wealth do better with dating after 30…ok, fine. But how?? Like I’m genuinely wondering. Unless you make over 7 figures and drive a Ferrari and have a huge mansion in Malibu that you show off in your dating app pics, how can you show that you make good money and are driven? I went from making 30k to over 200k and the only difference in my lifestyle is …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:07 PM
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Yup, which is why men in their 30s out earn women in their 30s and this trend continues with age. It’s just at the beginning that women have the advantage because they mature faster than guys. So a lot of guys clean up their shit and actually start becoming ambitious after their 20s. And women want to settle down and take care of their kids
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 03:02 AM
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They are starting to outearn men. They already do when looking at men and women in their 20s. I have several female friends that are in their early 20s and are making upwards of 200k
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 01:09 AM
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Blah blah. Were you born yesterday? My alma master’s dean isn’t “allowed” to take money for himself but just a couple months ago, he was caught stealing funds. You aren’t “allowed” to conduct race-blind and sex-blind admissions for anything and yet it’s present for everything. Women are more qualified than men? Don’t make me laugh. Men and women still receive similar grades, test scores, and have similar iq’s. It’s just no one gives 2 shits about men. The entire school system is designed and cat…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 01:07 AM
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God do I love affirmative action. Let’s get more women into college and high-paying STEM jobs, fuck men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 12:42 AM
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My dating life is nonexistent so I’d say it’s unbelievably difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 09:19 PM
5

Well…this was extremely depressing to read. Back to work ig
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:09 PM
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Haha nice, yeah I’ve seen so many black people well into their 60s and 70s look phenomenal. I think it also has to do with melanin - lot of white people get wrinkly cause of sun exposure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:46 AM
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I’m still in my early 20s but I’m already noticing a lot of the good-looking white people from my high school are now looking…pretty awful. And as an Asian guy, I’m only looking better and better since I started working out and filling my frame. And I have good skin genetics ig, plus I have a routine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:12 AM
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I’m curious to hear more about this “certain demographic”? You mean white people? They tend to age the most poorly I feel like, but please correct me if I’m wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:00 AM
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My parents have been together for over 30 years now and they are the best “team” I’ve ever seen. They just perfectly compliment each other, and in the rare times they have a small argument, they’ll quickly resolve it within an hour and be back to normal with each other. It’s one of the few things that does make me believe true love is real. They didn’t date, or hookup, or anything - they got an arranged marriage. Sure, there was definitely some attraction between each other. But more than anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:56 AM
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Well…unfortunately one gender seems to fall prey to focusing heavily on the shiny stuff much more than the other gender, but ig we’re not allowed to acknowledge it. Especially the “race” part. I’ve seen it in my own family
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:54 PM
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Yeah…not gonna work. No woman in her right mind would agree to this lmao. And why should they? The power rests with them. A 50th percentile woman does NOT want the 50th percentile guy. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:49 AM
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Amen brotha
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:25 AM
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No, you’re a woman. You’re probably not attracted to 95% of men you come across. Data suggests most women consider 80% of guys as being ugly. I don’t trust your judgement at all, sorry, I’ve seen women on this forum calling Chris Evans ugly, or Keanu Reeves as an example of an average guy. It’s a complete joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:29 PM
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Not sure why I’d lie about that, and it’s not exactly a mystery, it’s a known fact that an average guy is going to struggle to even get a single match on dating apps nowadays. The ratio of men to women is just terrible, and woman swipe on an average of 1 out of every 20 guys. You also have no clue about how long those “bad-looking men” may have been on tinder. Or if they paid for premium. Or if maybe you just find them bad looking and in reality, they are white men with an average face and body,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:24 PM
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You…put your income on your bio? Wtf? And please don’t tell me it’s below 7 figures. If it is, take that shit off right away dude. The way you’re supposed to do it is by taking pics that signal your wealth, subtly. Like yacht pics, travel pics, pics with you in nice clothes, or you in a nice restaurant, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:17 PM
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I legit stopped reading after “my boyfriend”. The irony…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:06 PM
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Get them on a dating app. If they don’t get any matches in a a month, I’ll be absolutely shocked. That still counts as “interest” btw. Many of us guys get 1 match every 6 months and that 1 match is a bot or was an accident on the woman’s part.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:05 AM
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I’m in my 20s, and no, I never have. I’ve got an athletic build, average height, and don’t think I’m ugly or anything…just don’t get out much I guess. Or maybe I’m much uglier than I thought 🤷‍♂️. I’m sociable, have a great group of friends, have been told I’m intelligent and funny. But yeah, just hasn’t happened. Bummer. Also I’ve got a pretty good career, and would consider myself to be driven/ambitious, so I also don’t have much time to invest in the dating scene, although I definitely still …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 09:01 AM
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Bruh it’s not even close. It used to be that a 25 year old man who is a virgin is this super ugly, elephant looking dude, or like 400 pounds, or has a serious, serious social disability. Nowadays many of these 25 year old virgins guys are just average dudes. Many of them skinny, many of them with good careers, many of them with great social skills, but they just don’t stand out. To be an undesirable women, you truly have to be the worst of the worst gremlin looking creature-monster from the dept…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:28 AM
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If you’re seriously implying that women don’t overvalue themselves, you’re kidding yourself. And don’t get me wrong, I don’t blame women at all. Some men will fall in love with anything that moves. And btw all that surgery and fillers is exactly what causes women to overvalue themselves even though most guys prefer a natural woman. Eating disorders is a whole other thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 12:43 AM
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Pretty much every women believes themselves to be above average or “pretty” though
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 10:13 PM
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I don’t believe the women’s stats at all. Tons of women would consider short sex or drunk sex not counting. Or “just” an accidental hookup not counting. And this didn’t show data on oral sex, hand jobs, anal sex, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 07:50 PM
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Working in a strats team at a bank that’s 100% guys ☠️. Guess I’d better get used to being single lol. Great insight though, I agree with everything you said!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:52 PM
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Not really sure about your first point. Cigarettes are objectively bad for you and yet many people still smoke daily. You assume all humans are rational. Sure, everyone should focus on getting more money, but then why is the average income so embarrassingly low?? What I meant by career being a consideration is that if you are good looking but work a minimum wage job, it’s gonna be tougher for you to get commitment because women value stability. And idk if you’re short and have bad bone structure…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:14 PM
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Ok, but I think you’re misinterpreting. You can’t be top 20% in league of legends and then expect casual sex from hot girls. What I meant was a holistic 20% of traits women vet for when it comes to dating, so a combination of looks, body type, height, and career, with looks + height being heavily weighted. And this may be controversial, but if you’re a certain ethnicity (non-white) you have to be around top 5% in order to have the same sexual success as a white guy that barely made the top 20% c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:38 PM
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To your last point, it’s more like 900 out of 1000 people vs 500 out of 1000 people (marriage rate has fallen from 90% to 51%) so in that case, I would say it’s a pretty noteworthy change
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:59 AM
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Your first point is fair. I meant partners but I apologize if I was unclear. As to your last question, no, I wouldn’t settle because I have no incentive to get married. My goal as a guy is to spread my seed to as many women as possible. I never commented on whether it was fair or unfair for a women to have to settle for an average guy. In fact, I initially said I felt sorry for them because society is the one that pretty much forces them to do so with constant messages about ignoring a man’s loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 06:56 AM
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Marriage and casual sex are very different. Nearly every guy has a good chance of getting married because women have been coerced by society to settle down at a certain age - but only a few select men get to enjoy casual sex with women they are attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:49 AM
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No, a lot of people seem to misinterpret the Pareto principle. The true meaning of it is that 20% of men are having 80% of the sex, while the other 80% of men are picking up the scraps. But what I’m arguing is that those 80% of guys are honestly lucky they get anything because of how picky women are. Luckily for those guys not in the top 20%, society has programmed women’s brains to want to settle with some average dude rather than be alone for the rest of her life. However, I think this is quic…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:48 AM
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This is a good point I never thought of, and also slightly depressing. Women are literally coerced in all sorts of ways throughout their life to value the importance of monogamy. The game is literally rigged to make it possible for an average guy to find a relationship. Imagine if polygamy was instead the norm. We would just see a bunch of harems consisting of Chad and a bunch of women with all the average and below dudes left in the dust.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:56 AM
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Hmm idk about this one, maybe “good” now, but they usually show their true colors soon enough. Isn’t the divorce rate like over 50%?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:13 AM
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I think I’d have more sympathy for women if their choices weren’t so shit all the time. I mean sure “safety” is an issue, but they still go for the same fuck boys and then get shocked when he either cheats on her or won’t commit. Same story again and again
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 06:52 PM
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It’s funny because somehow every single women on the internet is “attractive” in their own words. Maybe 1 out of 100 women will admit to being average. And if they say they are ugly?? Well that means you’re dealing with a 400 lb wildebeest or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 05:21 PM
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Definitely, I agree with that and have seen that myself. I think a lot of guys don’t have success with women because of their awkward personalities and think that muscles can make up for it. But I think muscles are really more of a cherry on top - you still have to have the main package.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:53 PM
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Ikr it’s a ridiculous assertion. Maybe some rich people are made fun or criticized online, but I’m getting the sense that OP hasn’t stepped outside in the real world for some time. Irl, wealthy people are treated wayyyy better than poor people. I’ve never seen a rich dude that was lonely. People often go out of their way to brown nose rich people
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:43 PM
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The problem with PPD and Reddit in general is that the majority of you are most likely in your 20s and poor to middle class. I’m always shocked at how dismissive people are on here about what it is like to be wealthy, and then I realize that either most of you guys have never actually experienced true wealth (because rich people are notorious for trying to hide a lot of their wealth else the proletariat will rise and protest), or, you live with your parents so daddy’s money gets you through life…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:39 PM
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Ahh interesting, I never even thought about that. That makes a lot of sense lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 10:58 PM
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Haha I’ve just seen a lot of 6’2+ white dudes with a big build and beer belly always have a very attractive gf/wife, I think girls like the feeling of being “protected” and they like the masculinity, but it’s usually older women they attract.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:13 PM
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Counterpoint: I’ve been lifting and eating healthy for years now, have an athletic build, and very low body fat and it has not helped one bit in terms of attracting women. I wish life was like a Hollywood movie where the nerdy kid gets buff and suddenly gets tons of attention from women, but that’s just not the case. If you see the type of men women go for these days, they tend to be skinny pretty boys or big guys with beer bellies. So work out for yourself, and just to have a long life and grea…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 09:03 PM
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I mean, yeah. I think both men and women don’t like partners with a bunch of Botox and lip fillers and plastic surgery. You can find the ugliest women in the world and she’ll still have 10 orbiters, so doesn’t really matter what men “prefer”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 09:03 PM
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Very true, plus women take better care of their appearance on average, use makeup, and tend to go for plastic surgery more often than a man. But I think you’re missing the main point. What matters is if the other sex still finds that person attractive. And it’s been shown that womens taste in men as they age continues it evolve while men still prefer women in their early 20s. As gross as that sounds, it’s just biology. So even if men age “worse”, when he’s in mid 30s or 40s he can still get a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:04 PM
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You nailed it on the head, and this is also what I’ve noticed. “Trying too hard” is actually a turn off to most women. They love that guy is somehow rich and jacked, but also doesn’t put in any effort to get those things so he’s all the time in the world for her, even though we all know this isn’t logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:47 PM
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Isn’t this all alleged? Where’s the proof? They couldn’t even settle it in courts. And btw you’re missing the point. I could’ve put any guys name there and you would’ve found something about that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 01:08 AM
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What do women here want to hear? That women continue to rise in value as they age? They get more and more beautiful and desirable while men turn into old farts by the time they hit 30? This sub is such a joke sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:30 PM
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Tbf, to get “condolences” from women on the internet, you basically had to be a perfect person throughout your life. They will dig up stuff from 30 years ago. Even Kobe was criticized and he was largely unproblematic. I’ve noticed men are a lot more forgiving
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:06 PM
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Whoever figures this out would be the richest person in the world
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:04 PM
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What about if you’re Indian American without an accent, how would that work?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:56 PM
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I’ve never spent a dime on a woman and I’m very proud of that fact
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:03 AM
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I think a lot of people equate me to an IT support desk person or something. I do work on cool projects and get to learn a lot but that seems to be dismissed by most women and people I talk to, so it must be where I’m located. Contrast that to telling people you’re a doctor and immediately you’re given respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:24 PM
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Not sure why everyone has this fallacious thinking that a high-earner MUST work insane hours. Maybe in most fields, but not in tech. I barely have to work. I was probably working double the hours back when I was only making 30k.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:22 PM
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Because I’m guessing they used to get away with a lot of shitty entitled behavior due to their youthful looks back in their 20s. Clearly, they don’t have that going for them anymore. Thus, the ensuing reality shock
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 10:16 PM
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But is there a reason why it’s usually always middle-aged grumpy women? And white women at that? I think it is because they’ve grown up their entire life feeling entitled and they rarely hear “no”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:51 PM
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I watched one of my very average female friends create a bumble account yesterday, and by the end of the day, had gotten “100+” likes (what the interface displays). This is not a joke. She has no bio and only had 2 pictures on her profile. We live in the suburbs. Your last statement isn’t really fair. A first date takes a max of like 2-3 hours and it’s essentially a free meal for a girl. If I was a girl I’d be maximizing that shit, I don’t blame them at all for taking advantage of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 08:54 PM
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Well most guys that tall will literally just put it in their bio, and bumble specifically has a place where you can put your height. Also, there’s a feature that allows women to filter by height. I don’t agree with your last statement, I think there’s a huge difference between something like 5’10 and 6’2. Most CEOs, rich guys, leaders, presidents, etc are 6 footers, I don’t think is just a coincidence. The way a man is perceived is largely due to his height.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 07:18 PM
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Lmao do you realize the average women gets 100s of likes per peek? Probably over a thousand in a month? This is how modern dating works. There was a recent post on the dating subreddit about a women that planned a date with a different guy, one per day of the week, so 7 different guys in one week lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 07:16 PM
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Well no one ever used the word “wildly successful”. Tinder sucks for all guys, even the mythical “chad”. It’s literally rigged for the benefit of women. But dating apps like bumble have height filters that allow you to remove from existence all guys below 6 feet or whatever you want. So being able to still be seen as a viable dating option because you’re 6’4, even if you aren’t getting crazy swipes, is still a massive advantage in and of itself. Even if he got only 10 matches a month, that’s abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:17 PM
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Fact of the matter is girls our age are looking for the typical hot dude on these dating apps, not something serious or long-term. They wanna have fun, and they want a guy that they can brag about. And the guys that do get matches don’t want to accept the fact that it’s due to their genetics because that means they essentially got lucky. Best thing for guys like us to do is to just continue to focus on ourselves and then hopefully women get desperate at 30 and we finally get a chance. Or if not,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:18 AM
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Yup, just finished up my ban lol. Barely said anything, it’s a total joke
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:49 PM
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In before some woman straw manning about how she has to make sure she doesn’t get raped on the first date in the middle of the restaurant, and therefore the guy has to pay
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:42 PM
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Well the guys on here are weird. I’ve found women take rejection way worse than men on average cause they’re not used to hearing “no”. But anyway, it doesn’t matter because barely any women approaches or initiates anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:28 PM
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I appreciate the response. I should clarify that I don’t actually write “I work at a prestigious company” as that would be cringe, what I did was put my job title in the provided slot as “software engineer at X company” where X is a well known tech firm (starts with a G). My main point is that most women spend maybe 5 seconds max on a profile and if you aren’t attractive to them it doesn’t really matter what your occupation or bio is, they swipe left and move on to the next guy. I really like wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 09:26 PM
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Oh come on. That’s the biggest straw man I’ve ever seen. Being 6’4 puts you in the 99th percentile of height and girls feel “protected” with you. You stand out from the mass of regular dudes on tinder, how is that not a huge advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:35 PM
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This is so false dude. You’re probably some tall, white, jacked dude or something and women are faking their interest in your job so you can fuck them. I’m a software developer (backend engineer not some bullshit web development) at a very prestigious company making ~200k at 22 yrs old and have put it on my bio on several dating apps and no one has given a flying shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:31 PM
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Women get rejected once or twice and then cry to mommy about it. Meanwhile, I have male friends that have gotten rejected hundreds of times and could not care less. It’s all about a persons ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 08:28 PM
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Hate to say it, but Pete Davidson. The guy’s dating history is just something else. Not to mention he’s probably had countless hookups with all sort of models. If you walk around LA, you’ll find thousands of guys that are taller, better looking, and probably funnier than Pete, but the difference between those guys and Pete is that he’s been pre-selected and he’s (relatively) high status. It’s good to try to emulate success, but as you grow older, you realize a lot of it comes down to sheer, dumb…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 08:39 PM
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I can guarantee you that nearly every women is gonna choose the “hot but poor” option. Money, ambition, personality doesn’t matter as much anymore. Now that women make a lot of money, often out-earning their male peers and graduating at higher rates, what matters to them is having some eye candy for social media and status among their friends. That’s it. And it’s not like women are the most logical when it comes to choosing good partners. I mean this is the same group of people that were fawning…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:13 PM
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This supposedly “low bar” only applies to guys that you already find significantly attractive. You can’t actually expect me to believe that women have an inability to find a decent guy with a good personality, stable job, nice demeanor, etc. That’s their own fault if they keep choosing trash men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:15 PM
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“She is now in her 30s with little direction and a cynical, bitter attitude towards men. It is likely she will remain single for quite a long time. She reminisces about her first serious boyfriend on occasion.“ This is exactly what I’m talking about folks. Late 20s early 30s dating market full of bitter women that had negative experiences with Chad and now want to yell at the good, honest, hard-working guys that got little to no action in their 20s, but finally built themselves up after a decade…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:03 PM
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You could argue that China and to a lesser extent, India, are becoming global super powers, but definitely not cultural influencers. They still (mostly) copy stuff from the US in terms of culture and new trends
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 03:19 AM
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Hmm well in that case, that’s sad to hear
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 12:30 AM
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What do you mean by “give up”? Stop working out? Stop moving up the career ladder? How do you know they aren’t just rolling in dough after working hard for a decade so now they’re finally beginning to enjoy the fruits of their labor by traveling, relaxing, and taking it easy??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:41 PM
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Nah, someone tell me if I’m wrong. This pretty much only applies to white guys. Time and time again, I’m SHOCKED to see some straight up model-looking girl with the most bland-looking white guy the universe has ever seen. Am I missing something here?? Is it a sign of prestige or status to be with a white guy? Like these guys aren’t particularly tall, handsome, fit, smart, or wealthy? They’re just…there. With a attractive girl around their arm. Does not make any sense whatsoever
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 06:11 PM
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Sorry yeah you’re right, that’s the word I was looking for
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 05:35 PM
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When I say skinny, I mean a low body fat percentage, not like a guy that you can see his ribs
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 04:01 PM
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You would think that being skinny would make you stand out as someone who actually takes care of their health, and would make you a desirable partner. Crazy world
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 05:35 AM
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Not OP, but I’m 5’10 and weigh around 150 pounds, and am pretty muscular (lean). Definitely never been considered super skinny; if anything, I’ve got abs and my muscles sort of pop out, but I have a smaller frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 05:34 AM
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Off-topic so I posted here…but what is it exactly about the age of 25?? I mean it feels so significant. Age 18 is when you legally become an adult, 21 is when you can legally drink…but 25?? I ask out of genuine curiosity. Is it because that’s the age when our brains are said to be fully developed? Or is it because that’s usually when you’re expected to start getting your shit together, and it’s the age when people start seriously thinking about settling down (getting married, having kids, etc.)?…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 11:34 PM
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Was at a Barnes and Nobles and saw a guy walk up to a girl in the book section I was in and start talking to her and eventually ask for her number, which she gave. I was shocked, because I’d only heard about cold approaching from online, so it was interesting to get to see it in person, and up close. The guy was extremely confident and respectful, and the girl seemed flattered. Props to that guy, no way I could do it, but anyway I think cold approaching is becoming less and less common, but it s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 10:43 PM
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Or maybe guys are more desperate than you realize lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 10:41 PM
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Nope, there’s no point
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 06:52 PM
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I never said that, I said people in general tend to find European traits better looking. In fact, I said that I find south Asians attractive. But yea, I did have to get past a lot of self-hate and bullying during my childhood
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 01:14 AM
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Yes, I am
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 12:24 AM
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A little bit of both. Objectively obviously because of dating statistics that have come out, and stereotypes against South Asians. Subjectively because unfortunately I’ve been programmed my entire life by the media and people around me to only find Eurocentric features attractive. I do find a lot of south Asians attractive but sometimes it feels like I’m the only one. You never hear someone say “yeahh I prefer Indian guys”, and eventually as a south asian, you sort of catch onto the fact that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 10:22 PM
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White people age horribly, this is not a problem for darker-skinned people like me at all. My parents are both around 60 and most people think they are like late 30s/older 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 05:42 PM
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9 being rated a 6.5 is insult to femininity
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 02:17 AM
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If you don’t get past the resume screening of looks, it doesn’t matter how good your other qualities are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 04:13 PM
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Hmm that’s interesting because my friends and I would all be ecstatic to meet a women like you. I live in LA so there’s an abundance of beautiful women here, but the majority of them are extremely shallow and pretty air-headed. Keep being yourself, I’m sure the right weirdo will come along :).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 07:34 PM
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Yep, which is why I deleted all those shit apps lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 06:23 AM
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And if you’re a wealthy guy, marriage is legit a liability
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:29 PM
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I’m banned and I don’t even remember what I did lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 10:04 PM
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Spot on. They’re shocked when they realize that a guy that makes 6 figures usually has to work quite a bit for it. Of course they don’t actually care about the money or the work ethic or the intelligence, just what the money can do for her in terms of vacations and material things, so makes perfect sense
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:36 PM
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Right, and that’s fair. If you can find someone who is similarly passionate about weightlifting and working out like you, then even better. But you should be ready to face the fact that you will turn off a lot of women by doing that, so it’s gonna be a harder search for you, but you’ll also find the perfect woman for you so ig it’s a win in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 07:11 PM
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You said one of the best things I’ve read in a while: basically once you achieve that aesthetic body, DONT center your life around it. THATS some op shit. The problem with these well-built guys is they tend to morph into “gym bros”. If you can be that muscular dude that shrugs his shoulders when asked “do you workout” almost like you don’t even care, that’s incredibly powerful. I’ve noticed women like guys that are succeeding in life but also don’t try, or at least seem like they are not trying …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 06:32 PM
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I hate the fact that we so readily classify human beings as “high value” or “low value”. The only truly low value people are criminals. And anyway FDS’s version of “High value man” is basically a beta bux cuck that no person should be aspiring to be like
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 10:38 PM
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I agree, only a couple viable career choices for men. My cousin is pursuing art and although he’s fantastic at it, once girls hear that that’s his career choice, they magically disappear into thin air like some sort of magic act. Pretty sad to see. Then again, on the flip-side I’m in a high-paying industry and probably make more than 99% of my age group but still struggle to get dates. So it’s more of a prerequisite. And I’ve heard time and time again from men that they don’t care what a women’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:06 PM
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You’re so unaware it’s almost kind of cute lol. You’ve answered your own questions. It’s pretty easy for my friends and I to keep track of our counts, which range from 1-5 in our entire lifetimes lmao. There is no problem with you sleeping with 40+ people by the time you are 30, but you should be gracious enough to understand and accept that that’s not everyone’s cup of tea. A 30 year old guy who has been with 3 girls in the past is simply not going to be sexually compatible with you. You are ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 11:40 PM
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How do you know they aren’t loaded?? Tons of well off guys that drive shit cars. I drive a Civic and have investments in the mid 6 figures, and make over 100k.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 11:35 PM
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I see, that makes sense. That should just be the minimum requirements, of course you should also prioritize your partners personality and sexual compatibility with yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 09:08 PM
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And why in the world would any man with at least 2 brain cells want to be “the rock for everyone else to lean” on?? Wtf? What do we get out of doing that? Being perpetually used? Nah, I’m good
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 07:37 PM
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Why do you consider it a “pressure”? Is it bad to want an LTR with a guy who is financially stable and would make a good husband and father??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 07:16 PM
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So shorter than 5’10”? What’s your point exactly? Do you think you’re a high value woman because you’re tall-ish?? Do you realize taller guys (6’+) usually want to date average height or even short girls? If you’re a tall girl and not a model or something it’s just a waste. If you can make fun of 5’10 “skinny fat” guys I can throw back the same energy at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 07:15 PM
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Huh, well that’s quite depressing lol. Tbf I live in a suburb, and pretty much stay in my house all day, think if I was living in a big city and went out more my prospects would change, but who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 05:42 PM
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Yes, thanks for stating much more clearly what I was trying to say. Also, to your point on age-gap relationships, seems to me like the hatred is only directed to the older guy in the relationship, even if the women is an adult with agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:52 PM
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Sure, but how does a guy figure out what league he’s in? Unlike women, men will hang out with other men regardless of looks. And there’s a lot more mobility for men to “move” up in leagues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 03:46 PM
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Even if I misinterpreted your comments, and if I did I apologize, this is simply untrue. Although good-looking “Chads” have the most casual sex for sure, there’s no denying it, actually walk outside of your room for once in your life and look at the type of men women are marrying. A lot of these guys are ugly as sin but either have a good personality or are rich. There are only so many Chad genes to go around. Eventually women have to settle, and this shows when it comes to marriage and procreat…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 05:16 AM
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But the definition and use-case of evolution is constantly adapting and changing. Ask any modern women if they want to marry a man who is expected to die in his 40s, even if he looks like Chris Hemsworth. With living expenses increasing, if you want to have kids, you need to be able to support them well past the age of 18, unless you are extremely wealthy. Dying at 40 clearly poses a problem in this scenario. No one thinks single-parent households is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 04:30 AM
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Lol you’re still not getting it. You’re misusing evolution completely. You seem to imply that passing on genes related to “looking good” is the most important thing for society. Look at the guys that contributed the most to society, the fact that we can even type on our smartphones and send bits and bytes over the internet. They were not good-looking in any sense of the word. They were smart, intelligent, and hard-working. If all we optimized for as a society is to pass on genes from the 6’4 mus…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 04:27 AM
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Sure I guess, but genetic history still matters. I’m not saying environment isn’t important, but if your grandpa and dad both had dementia, it doesn’t matter if you’re 6’2, you should be worried.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 04:23 AM
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Been there done that. Need help with math homework? Suddenly acknowledges my existence…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 04:21 AM
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I think the grass is always greener on the other side. I don’t care about all the looks in the world, being healthy is the most important thing to me. I just find it funny when people think an attractive face MUST mean you eat your vegetables daily and have ZERO problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 04:20 AM
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Huh? Reread what I wrote. I never said “all” attractive people have subpar genes lmao. But a lot of us are susceptible to the Halo effect. If you think every blond hair, blue eyed guy is the most genetically fit man you are fooling yourself. I was just implying that quite a few “attractive” people have internal problems that you can’t see at a surface level. And anyway, the definition of “attractive” changes every century so who’s to say women as a whole are some perfect arbiter of who will be g…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 04:16 AM
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Sounds good on the surface, except a lot of attractive people have sub-par genes. Higher predilection/pre-disposition to cancer, heart problems, dementia, etc. Evolution dictates that only the most fit individuals should spread their genes. Just because someone has symmetrical features doesn’t mean they are “fit”, they’re just nice to look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 11:21 PM
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Average guys really have to go through the 12 Labors of Hercules all to end up with some used-up whale.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 10:24 PM
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100%. It’s the complete and utter disrespect towards men who they deem to be “low-value”. Every guy I’ve ever met has always given me a decent level of respect since I’m a fellow human being, even if I didn’t know them well. But the majority of women have treated me like I’m invisible or I don’t exist unless they are close family or friends. No need to act like a guy you don’t find attractive is by default a gross creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 07:09 PM
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Mostly through social circle, I’m guessing. It’s pretty easy for them. Friends, friends of friends, coworkers, neighbors, the damn mail man. All depends on when they feel like they want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 12:38 AM
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Sorry, the slightly shabby house with good bones doesn’t want you after going through unbelievable trials and tribulations for a decade and getting bitter, try again later.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 08:39 PM
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Marry? Maybe as a trophy wise, she’ll be on a leash and treated with 0 respect though. Just arm candy, but ig some women are willing to put up with that shit
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:56 PM
1

Oh wow! I didn't know it was that bad there, that's insane. Really sucks that all around the world, wages are not at all keeping up with the impending real estate bubble. My parents house goes up in worth like 100k every years, its mind-blowing. Obviously good for the older, home-owning generation, but I'm scared for our generation. Most of us are going to be renting for a while, or living with our parents :(. And yeah I definitely get you, people here (including me) tend to jump to conclusions,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:38 PM
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Well my apologies and you guys clearly worked hard for the properties, so congrats. This was just a miscommunication issue. It’s clear to me the original OP was saying that it’s nearly impossible for a young person to buy a house these days (in the US), which yes, is US-centric of them. Because where I live, the average price of a house is near a million dollars while the average wage is around 50k, so you can do the math on how crazy that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:49 AM
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You speak from a place of extreme privilege. Your parents are earning at a near or close to 99th percentile income. And you clearly went to a very upscale college like USC or something. My parents make 7 figures combined and I’m in a field where you can make 250k coming out of college but I don’t go around saying 100k is easy to make. It’s very impressive even for a 30 year old. Hell, to even have a job these days is something one should be proud of.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:43 AM
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Wouldn’t even be surprised tbh, it’s always the people that didn’t earn it that wanna flex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 06:37 AM
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So either you bought those in the mid-west or you got a little help from mommy and daddy or OF. I’m younger than you, definitely make more than you, and am not even close to buying a house. That’s the reality, no need to act like it isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:45 AM
3

I have a tall, good-looking white friend that is the only one of my friends that can get matches consistently and the quality of his matches is a joke, so I’ve seen it myself
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:03 PM
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Fine I will, but you have to create a profile of an average straight man for one day and see how that goes. The vast majority of womens’ profiles are outdated, headshots with significant filtering and makeup and their bio consists of their Instagram handle and “make me laugh”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:02 PM
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Women see what they want to see. Just because you don’t have Chris Hemsworth in your DMs doesn’t mean you have a “lake full of trash”. Literally calling men trash based off a few superficial pictures, very nice. Last time I checked, education levels, income levels, obesity rates, etc are all more or less the same for both men and women, except women somehow get a free pass for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 05:48 PM
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Statistically speaking, it’s much easier for a white guy to get matches on dating apps. Ethnic guys would be lucky to get even a single match
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 05:46 PM
3

Huh? I spend maybe 5 to 10 minutes every other day lol. Who is spending hours? That sounds super unhealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:01 AM
3

Lol I was like…wait you guys get first dates?!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:59 AM
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Well if you consider the definition of a high N-count women to basically be 7+ since this is above average, yes, I’m fairly confident in saying the vast majority of PPD women are over this mark
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 02:46 AM
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These days if you’re a white guy and not completely ugly looking you are considered a “model”, it’s such a joke
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 09:50 PM
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A high N-count PPD woman (let’s be honest, the vast majority of women here) getting mad at a virgin guy for wanting a low N-count is similar to a short guy getting mad at a woman for wanting a tall guy. Except the former is a situation in which the person consciously chose to sleep around, whereas the latter is something that couldn’t be controlled. Also the former is one in which the guy wants sexual compatability, and the latter barely has a logical reason to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:29 PM
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I suppose so and honestly I see where you are coming from. It’s funny, because honestly I don’t even believe in/care about the whole “40 year old guy can get 20-something year old girl” argument. It’s just that it’s a little stupid to believe that a guy that gets little to no attention when he’s young is gonna be forever alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 07:53 AM
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Exactly, and on the flip side men care pretty much exclusively about youth and beauty. Very few guys will date an unattractive older women even she had a PhD and makes 6 figures or whatever. It just doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 01:00 AM
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She doesn’t understand because women can be passive and still get dates. All they have to do is just be there and some guy will approach them. We men usually have to do the approaching and initiate everything. This is a lot of time, effort, and money on our part and not very feasible for an early 20s guy who’s trying to climb the corporate ladder to do. Of course she doesn’t understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 12:59 AM
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And still, many PPD women would probably call you fake or something. I definitely believe you because I’ve seen similar myself. But you’re obviously doing really well in at least some aspect of life at 40 in order to be able to date a 20-something year old woman. But yeah the point is OP is totally bullshitting, you definitely don’t need to be Leonardo DiCaprio to date a women 10 years younger than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 12:57 AM
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Still don’t understand what point you are trying to make? Are women gonna be flocking to the guys bedroom door? The original assertion I was trying to make is that if you are working 12-14 hours a day, you don’t have time to go out and meet people. If you don’t drink alcohol, you’re not going to bars or picking up any girls. This is the case with a lot of my friends. And good for you, I’m glad you are doing well educationally and financially. But for the rest of us, or at least me, I’ve had to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 12:06 AM
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I literally know no guys that meet all 3 of those standards, but I meet 2 of those and am off by 2 measly inches from 6 feet :(. And have a 6+ 🍆 ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 11:48 PM
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Sorry, this is just wrong. A lot of guys in their 20s are focused on going to grad school or grinding away at a corporate job in order to climb the ladder and secure their financial future. Just because you don’t have women “flocking to you” in your 20s doesn’t mean you’re going to be a virgin forever. Working out, taking care of your skin, maintaining a good diet, developing social skills and hobbies, and earning a much higher salary all take time, and make you more attractive to the opposite s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:58 PM
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One of my favorite quotes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:53 PM
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Does anyone here actually believe a 40 year old man will get with a 25 year old women?? I think most guys, when talking about women hitting the “wall”, are talking about dating at 22/23 as young guy (absolute shit) vs. dating in your early 30s (much, much better) because you are more mature, financially stable, and have figured yourself out. 40 is just getting old, and by that point you should just hope you’re already hitched
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:52 PM
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Well said. And the majority of us men wanting a low N-count women fall in the 2nd category, yet we’re chastised and called evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 03:45 PM
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It’s cause it’s all about how their relationship “looks” to their family and friends. No girl wants to introduce some short dude as their boyfriend. Unless he’s rich or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:30 PM
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Humans as a whole, both men and women, are shallow so I don’t get the point you are trying to make. In fact, I disagree with your point. Men prefer all shapes and sizes of women, there are even “chubby chasers”, yet I’ve never heard of the same being true for women. They by and large go for the same type of chiseled jaw, broad shouldered, full head of hair, tall, muscular guy, it’s just that not all women can land this guy so they settle with what they can get. And what I meant by women being wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:33 AM
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Look, heres the truth. And I’ll say this is as your “target” audience, a 22 year old guy that does prefer my partner have a low N count (I realize a virgin partner in her mid-to-late 20s is unrealistic). And this is something I’m sure other PPD men feel but won’t admit: I’m jealous and insecure. Plain and simple. There. I think it’s unfair that I’ll most likely have to work my ass off for the next decade furthering my career, going to the gym, developing social skills and status, taking care of …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 04:02 AM
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This is a really good point. As a women, I think you do have inherent value but this value is almost…”shallow”, meaning you’ll only be respected because of youth and beauty as you said, which isn’t even the type of respect one should really want. Also as you mentioned, these things fade so a woman’s value is constantly diminishing. Whereas a man comes into this world with literally 0 value, but we also have the chance to build ourselves up with enough work and a little bit of luck. The real ques…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:42 PM
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I’ve never seen a woman on the internet consider themselves as average or below average unless they’re like a horrendous looking 400 lb whale, so this should be interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:14 PM
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So you engage in hook up culture and yet criticize it?? I don’t participate in hook up culture whatsoever and even I don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:04 AM
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Holy shit I haven’t laughed this hard in a while, especially that Chadfishing experiment, shit is hilarious. I’d definitely volunteer to be one of the 80% of guys that doesn’t get chosen in the video they show in the classrooms. Like one of those NPC actors with 3 lines that I deliver super robotically: “aw man I’ll never be like Chad :(“, “oh well, back to my video games and sexless life I guess”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 08:32 PM
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Yeah well I know way too many men that are average or below average looking and still in relationships/married with kids. How do you explain that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 03:58 AM
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I’m not denying that looks matter a lot but if you think personality doesn’t matter at all then you’re just trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 02:24 AM
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I could only imagine why women don’t find you attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:36 AM
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True, but if anything, a virgin women thats in her 20s is even weirder because its supposedly so "easy" for them to lose it, so it could be a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:16 PM
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Good for you. Hate when then there’s this insinuation that virgin in 20s = loser but you are clearly killing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 04:01 PM
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I was always curious on the exact numbers. Is it like 95% of 25 year olds have lost their virginity? And 99% of them have had their first kiss? I do think that the rate of virginity is increasing though. People are waiting longer now. Or maybe my friends and I are just a conservative bunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 03:59 PM
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Not very common but probably getting much more common with every passing year. Also, a lot of guys are totally oblivious to attention from women so that could be a confounding variable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 11:03 PM
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I guess it does depend on where you live. Well assuming that fat is now the literal average for American men, if he can socialize well, so he’s average in one category and above average in another, then yes I think overall he could be considered slightly above average. In fact I’d be willing to predict that most fat guys aren’t great at socializing because of a negative external feedback loop. Good looking guys in shape get tons of positive external feedback so this makes them more confident and…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:02 PM
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Interesting, that really hasn’t been my experience at all. We have to remember that the average guy is overweight and does not really take care of himself and works a mediocre, dead-end job. And not particularly personable either. In my experience, average woman usually are most attracted to above average guys. These are the guys that have had multiple previous relationships and are wanted by at least a couple other woman. The average guy these days, imo, is struggling especially with the advent…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:24 PM
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Sorry yes, I was trying to reply to AquaChip. Embarrassing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:11 PM
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I told this to someone else as well, but do you believe this is in part due to the fact that average women realize they aren’t going to be attracting a Christian Grey anytime soon? So they “cope” by having realistic standards of finding a guy that makes the same or a bit more than them? In this way, women are usually more realistic. Meanwhile there are definitely tons of obese guys in their moms basement still wanting and expecting to hookup with swimsuit models.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:53 PM
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Well I have to disagree on you disagreeing lmao. How do you know they’re content?? I would be “content” marring an average woman, but if a hot woman were to show interest in me, I’d be all over that in a heartbeat. Average woman are only “content” with the 50k guy because they literally realize they can’t do any better than that, realistically. No multi-millionaire guy is going to turn their way, so these women have to adapt lest they be left disappointed. And I agree with the last statement you…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:51 PM
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This guy sounds like he falls between a 4 and 6, like the majority of guys. If a guy were particularly unattractive or attractive, there would definitely be some signs or external feedback. The best average guys like us can do is try to get as close to 6 as possible by grooming, working out, advancing in our career, etc. and staying the hell away from dating apps. Just my 2 cents as someone who strongly relates to the hypothetical guy in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 04:42 PM
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I don’t understand why people act like it’s so easy. Real life isn’t a movie. Even if a hot girl shows up at the party, she’s either in a group of other women (so near impossible to approach her) or surrounded by a bunch of Chads each vying for her attention. It’s not like her panties immediately drop at the sight of you and you both ride into the sunset.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 08:52 AM
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That’s fair, and sounds like you’re a good friend. Ig I just have adverse experiences with people that DO push their opinions onto others and then act surprised when the other person gets offended. But I get what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 08:07 PM
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Yeah, I get that. I think the reason why that’s true is the guys that are grinding and trying to “get their shit together” won’t be wasting their time on dating apps, bars, or going out much in general. They’re usually working or developing their skills at home or in the office. So women can’t really find these guys until their late 20s or maybe early 30s when they get to a comfortable point in their careers. And whats left for women throughout their 20s is the garbage guys just looking for sex,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 08:06 PM
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Oh please. Women have a list of requirements for their potential partners that’s longer than Santa’s list and no one is allowed to say anything. Maybe you might think you’re merely “offering a different perspective” but I have friends like you and you guys end up sounding extremely passive aggressive. When you end up saying things like “oh that’s a weird requirement”, “do you think lesser of me because of my N count”, etc it becomes toxic. And maybe you don’t say this specifically, but nearly ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 06:05 PM
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What are you even talking about? I’m Indian American; I was born and brought up in the US. I have no relation whatsoever to India, I barely know anything about it. I guarantee you I speak better English than the majority of white people. Also that comment you’re referencing is speaking in broad terms about a culture clash situation. No need to make personal attacks about my ethnicity making it so that I should be happy I get any sort of partner, which is what you were implying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:29 AM
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This seems pretty racist, not sure how mods are allowing your comment. You literally generalized half a billion Indian guys. I do more than fine, thanks. Imagine a world where 100% of all 4 billion women only cared that I was a "SA man". Reported your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:07 AM
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Because I don’t like the thought of my girlfriend having been creampied by 20 other guys before she “suddenly” decided to settle down with me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:47 PM
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Probably. I’m South Asian, and my “people” have probably only been in the US for a couple decades at best, and we only make up like 1% of the total American population. So I’m sure some women go through their whole lives never interacting directly with an Indian guy and therefore relying on stereotypes that we are all creepy, smelly, scammers that have a thick accent, when in reality this couldn’t be farther from the truth (at least for Indian Americans). It’s a bummer, but ignorance plays a hug…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:09 PM
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Either that it’s a scam to swindle men of their money, or that I’m extremely ugly. Still not sure what the correct answer is. Maybe a mixture of both?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 06:35 PM
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I completely agree, and my friend group of guys recently started doing this. Also, life is short and you never know what might happen, or what friend you might not see again. Didn’t wanna sound morbid, but it’s important to let a friend know X or Y or Z or any good thing that you might think is silly to say out loud, but could make that friend’s entire week. Also, whenever women hear us saying stuff like this they make a funny face and start implying we’re gay. Hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 06:32 PM
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Why do you think the magical 6 feet number is so important? Or if the guy has a boat. Or if the guy works a prestigious job. Or if….you get the point. Women care a lot about how they and their decisions are perceived by society. It’s all about getting approval from her family and friends. And maybe even draw out a little jealousy from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:55 PM
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Tbf I don’t think being white is an advantage, it’s just that being ethnic is a hindrance as a guy. Most women want to be with guys that look like them and share a similar culture to them. Plus, a lot of women come from families that, I don’t want to say are racist, but have certain ingrained prejudices against ethnic guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:24 AM
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Spot on. I have a cousin like this. Went from private school to private school, starting from pre-school all the way to grad school. She was shocked people make less than 200k. Like genuinely shocked. She thought it was normal to have a wedding, house, and fancy car by 25. And a lot of her private school friends are like that too. People on this sub would be surprised by how many delusional people there are out there. And she’s in medical school so I wouldn’t say she’s dumb. Just ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:23 AM
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I was thinking, no way is the average 60k without some sort of skew. Men are struggling out here. Just a couple lucky mother fuckers are biasing the hell out of the statistic
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:17 AM
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Hmm good point. On your last point though, I would argue that Asian women are starting to be seen as nearly desirable or even more desirable than white women, at least according to dating app statistics. But what’s interesting is that, if my sources are correct, Asian men and specifically, Indian men, actually make the most on average (think 100k) versus white men’s average salary of maybe 50k-ish. Also, white men are losing out on positions of power, slowly but still surely. But maybe this perc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 05:14 AM
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If this is true, I’m mind blown. This is really interesting analysis. As a guy, I look at him and (no offense Caleb!) he just looks…like the most generic white guy ever?? Just nothing special. I see a bunch of guys (my friends) much better looking than him on a daily basis. I’m also in an affluent area so these guys are better looking and wealthier than this Caleb guy, and these guys still struggle to date. Two things that surprised me the most. The importance of his height. I knew height was im…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 03:10 AM
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Lol just imagining a bunch of sexually aggressive 6’4, 300 lb linebackers made the point very clear to me, good analogy. I as an avg guy am used to basically being invisible and not having to worry about stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 08:14 AM
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Tbf she did say “and”, but it is kind of funny cause a lot of white people actually have terrible genetics. History of cancer, heart attack, dementia, terrible aging especially in the skin, etc. A lot of bad stuff that can be passed to the offspring
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:34 PM
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Bingo, you’re the only person here who actually understands what status means. Everyone always defaults to “rich old creepy gross guy that’s balding and has beer belly” as the de facto example of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 10:01 PM
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There’s a lot I want to talk about, not really sure where I want to start. But I guess an easy point to first address would be that this sub is obsessed with black and white thinking. Either or. This or that. Why can’t both of your statements be true? Because in my opinion, looks matter but status matters too. Your Jeremy Meeks example is spot on. However, he has piercing, light blue (rare) eyes and seemingly perfect cheekbones. You picked a total anomaly as an example, and it took the guy looki…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:58 PM
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Yeah I got like 10 matches my first week, then after that, pretty much total silence. A typical dating business model at play
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:24 PM
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Lmao this reminds me of the saying that “women are predominantly the ones who suffer from war because of emotional distress”…like HUH?! What about the men who are literally dying?? Fuck them, right? “Emotional distress” because none of your 500 matches is the perfect Prince Charming is laughable. What’s emotional distress is being a guy on Bumble, putting your effort into crafting a nice profile with some of your best pictures, swiping right for months, and then the 1 match you get the girl does…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:22 PM
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LOL what a joke. I love how the “average guy” gets absolutely shit on in this subreddit and your description of him, despite your trying to make him as unappealing as possible, was honestly not even bad. Let’s talk about the average women, and dare I say it? Let’s talk about her without makeup. Fucking abysmal looking. Like a golem creature. And more women on average are obese than men so picture like a 5’4 170 pound golem type creature that has terrible skin and terrible features, getting disgu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:24 AM
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Well said, it’s like when guys ask a girl out, get rejected and then go “whatever she isn’t even that cute”.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:59 AM
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I, as a guy, definitely do nice things for women without expecting anything in return (and with no ulterior motive) but these are women who are either family or very close friends. From the way you described this guy, you aren’t very close. So yeah it’s definitely a little obvious that this guy wanted to get in your pants because why else would someone not really close to you be willing to drive over an hour to pick you up? Maybe you would be willing to do it, but unfortunately, the vast majorit…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:57 AM
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Lol the wrestling ones are so good, once I discovered it there was no turning back for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:45 PM
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lol it’s cause women don’t just want some high earning beta, they want a guy that makes a lot of money AND looks good AND is tall AND has a full head of hair, it goes on and on. Basically they want to have their cake and eat it too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 07:42 PM
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That’s interesting, because when it comes to guys, it seems to me like women work off relative attraction rather than absolute attraction. For example, this is how the 6/6/6 rule even came about. If every guy was suddenly 6’1 or 6’2, even if the average height of women stayed the same, a 6 foot guy would no longer be appealing. Similarly, a guy making 100k is well off. But if a woman lives in a wealthy community, suddenly that guy isn’t very impressive and the guys making half a million would be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:18 PM
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It’s taking me 22 years, so maybe 22 more years to find an average-looking girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 08:42 PM
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Would you guys rather be with an N = 1 girl or a girl that’s sucked 20 dicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 06:20 PM
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No but see, as usual you are going straight to the Silicon Valley losers that smell and don’t take care of themselves and are 5’2. I’m not talking about them at all. There are lots and lots and lots of guys that earn mid 6 figures in tech that also take care of themselves. They are not super attractive or anything, but they certainly don’t “compromise” their physical attraction. These are the guys that can capitalize the most on their money situation. They’re not “LVM”, but they are average, dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 07:30 AM
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Alright now you’re just bullshitting. In what world is a guy making 6 figures in tech, an industry that is booming rn and will probably have that guy ending up with a 7 figure net worth in a couple of years, be a low value male? Unless he doesn’t use any of that money on taking care of himself (beauty projects, gym, surgery, nice clothes, watch, car, own place), maybe. Other than that, he’ll find someone. I think there’s this misconception that all these guys are short, chubby losers but I’ve me…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:21 PM
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My point is, I never did care. I only started caring when I started reading about how all virgins over 21 HAVE to be unsociable losers with nothing going on in their lives. This is patently false. I’m doing great rn, sex has just never happened and/or been a priority of mine. I’ve had tinder and had girls that wanted to hook up but I’m not about that at all. Just wanted to put it out there that there are people like me who just choose to be virgins, just cause
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 07:17 PM
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Hey, for the “normal” virgins, please rely to my post. I’m honestly sick and tired of these stupid “studies” that seem to indicate that any virgin over 21 must be some sort of sick, weirdo. I’m 22, 5’10, well-built, sociable, have a large group of friends, have a number of interesting hobbies, make more money than probably 99% of my age-group, and am still a virgin. Why? Idk I never really tried. I’ve had offers before, but I chose to focus exclusively on my career which is why I’m in the positi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 06:53 PM
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I already literally fit the description of dateless, so I gotta go with jobless
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:17 AM
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The phrase “men are the gatekeepers of commitment” is becoming less and less true. Maybe the top 10% of guys who have a plethora of options. For the average Joe, he’s not gatekeeping shit. Hell, he’d be lucky to get a decent girlfriend in todays climate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 04:09 AM
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Nah, but Nala definitely knew he was going to be king soon. It’s like a girl dating a guy who is unemployed but is in line to inherit his wealthy father’s real estate business
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 09:05 PM
1

Oh wow, I didn’t know taking a shower and getting a haircut would change my ethnicity, thanks!!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:40 AM
2

That’s an unfair comparison. You’re comparing a 10th percentile height to an 85th percentile height. Ofc there’s gonna be a difference there. But I’m saying the difference between something like 5’8 and 6’0 is not as big as ppl think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:32 PM
1

Yeah I’m ngl being 5’6 on dating apps is a killer but I’ve had friends around that height still get a decent amount of matches. But tbf they are conventionally attractive and/or have good jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:07 AM
5

It probably depends on context as well. I’m 5’10 and I’ve never been called short either. Hell, some women have even considered me tall or at least tall-ish, and this might have to due with the fact that I’m Asian and in my community, the guys and girls are pretty short (although the new generation is getting much, much taller). I’m sure if I was White I would run into my fair share of girls that consider me to be “short”.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 09:06 PM
1

Lol that’s why I just workout in my garage, so I can sweat and grunt in peace
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 08:16 PM
8

Yeah I definitely agree, I’m just speaking from personal experience. Most of my female friends filter out like 5’7 or 5’8 and below, the 6 foot thing seems to mostly be a meme, unless women really want to reduce their dating pool by over 80 percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 08:15 PM
15

Eh it sort of depends. I think this sub as a whole over exaggerates the height thing when it comes to online dating. Looks is #1 and it’s not even close. If you have a really good looking guy but he’s “only” 5’10, he’s still gonna get a shit ton of matches. Now take an average looking guy that’s 6’+ and he’s not gonna get as much. Also it depends on age range. Older women don’t care as much as trying to find some beta bux provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 08:10 PM
9

To be fair, it might just be me, but cardio, HIIT, and ab workouts in general…I absolutely dread. Strength training, free weights, lifting?? Not too bad in comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 08:07 PM
13

This is a really great take. Men definitely have higher expectations placed on them when it comes to ideal body standards but women have a tougher time getting “in shape”. A couple months in the gym will do any guy a solid. Moreover, men have much more varied interests (tall, fat, short, ugly) whereas women as a whole tend to go for the same type of build (tall, muscular, good bone structure)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 08:06 PM
1

How do you gain 10 kg of muscle in 4 month??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:43 PM
6

Remember, don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. Tons of PPD women lying through their teeth rn. Why do you think so many marriages end up in divorce and there are so many single mother households out there??? Women choose for attractiveness first and foremost, and then hope their Chad husband is also a good father.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:19 AM
7

False, the majority of women need makeup just to look decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 06:35 PM
24

Spot on. Every time a girl has told me she’s looking for a guy that’s “nice and kind” it’s those things PLUS being tall, good-looking, masculine, muscular, full head of hair, and muscular, etc. Its pretty much implied at this point, but they don’t want to have to say it out loud lest they come off as shallow, a women’s worst nightmare. Meanwhile guys will openly talk about wanting a girl with nice tits and ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 06:34 PM
1

The Rock is such an anomaly it's sort of pointless to use his as an example. I'm talking about a reasonably muscular guy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:09 AM
1

I mean sure, but he's got to be incredibly muscular to be able to see that underneath a suit or a blazer. But I suppose OP was talking about roided out guys so it makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:08 AM
1

What sort of clubs are you guys going to? Recently went to an exclusive club in Vegas and the dress code for guys was pretty strict - blazer or at least long sleeved button up dress shirt, and it was freezing cold, so how would any women (with the nightclubs smoke effects, strobing lights, super loud music, moments of pitch black darkness) be able to even see muscle??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 05:28 AM
1

Sure that’s a good point, but if you really want to maximize TC you would work as a swe at an HFT firm, and a place like Citadel will have you working 60-80 hours per week. Even a trading firm with better WLB will still require you to work at least 50 hours a week to gain a competitive advantage and secure a big bonus (based off desk performance). Anyway my point is, it’s not easy to be this breadwinner swe and also lead a super interesting life. The work of a swe at a big tech firm is often men…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 08:11 PM
2

And I agree with you, but by definition, most software engineers are not at the top of their field. If you want to be making TC like 250k+ then you need to dedicate the amount of time I’m putting in in order to stand a chance. I’m just trying to show how hard it is to “have it all”. It’s incredibly hard to be a high-earning, ambitious software engineer while also rock-climbing in his/her free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 05:28 PM
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Lmao easy for you to say, but it’s so fucking hard in some cases. As a software engineer, I probably work + study 10-12 hours a day of CS just to stay at the top of my field. After that, there’s little time to do anything past that. Maybe if I was a professional photographer or something I’d have loads of time to lead an “interesting” life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 01:06 AM
1

This….literally proves OP’s original point lol. Regular Amy Schumer vs Famous Amy Schumer = guys still don’t want to sleep with her. But regular Ed Sheeran = no female attention vs Famous Ed Sheeran = slept with supermodels. For guys, status matters, not just looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 04:31 PM
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Very few men have a problem with this - it becomes annoying when it becomes a womens entire personality…being “strong and independent” yes yes we get it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:59 PM
1

Sure, but in times of crisis women and children will always be protected and looked after first. They will usually be given the benefit of the doubt in terms of any violent altercation (Johnny Depp and Amber Heard), I mean why do you think there are so few homeless women? It’s very hard to fail as a women in this day and age
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 09:48 PM
-1

Yes, this isn’t very surprising. Unfair as it is, the moment a woman is born in this world, she has value. The same can’t be said for her male counterparts. Women are human beings, men are human doings. I’ve seen so many instances in my own life of average Joe being overlooked UNTIL the girl finds out he went to X school got Y job, lives in Z home. And if he’s fit, even better. Meanwhile a girl could legit be a land whale and make a living on OnlyFans, and find someone to love her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 08:43 PM
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I would FWB women #1 if possible, and LTR women #2. Drive and ambition are important to me, and there’s really not that much difference between 6-7 and 8-9 (to me). As long as I find the girl attractive, other qualities are more important
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:55 PM
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I’ve had 0 partners and I’m 22. I think it mostly has to do with the fact that I’ve never really put myself out there. I also have a bunch of friends that are in the same situation as me. I wouldn’t say they are ugly or incels or anything, they’ve also just never tried or weren’t that interested in finding someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:46 PM
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In theory, this makes perfect sense. But unfortunately, what ends up happening to a lot of these guys is that they end up falling hard for these women and their original plan ends up falling through. Love can really blind people unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 05:55 PM
21

Self-reported by women…..who are historically well-known for being truthful when it comes to their sexual history/activity, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:39 AM
0

Yeah I agree with you, but I’m just saying there are a lot of guys (me included) that can look at a girls photo and want to have sex with her. Not saying it’s always the case, but it’s definitely possible for some of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 07:16 PM
2

You swipe right on 20% and match with all 20%?! I find that extremely hard to believe. I’m just going off of avg match rate with women, which is around 5%
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 05:54 PM
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We guys can lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 05:18 PM
2

So basically out of 1000 guys, you will match with around 5% of them so 50 guys, then out of these 50 guys, you’ll go on a date with 10% of them so 5 guys, and only 1 out of those 1000 guys will get to the 2nd date and a “small number” of those 1 out of 1000 will make it to a relationship or any form of intimacy?? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 05:12 PM
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This is the hot take that no one wants to hear. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:20 AM
-1

Yup and as a guy, who’s to say that that 6% of girls aren’t disabled, asexual, lesbian, or just not interested in me? That’s why it’s unrealistic to consider virginity as a requirement
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:47 PM
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I mean it’s just not realistic to expect a virgin partner past 20 so how is this a relevant question
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:25 PM
2

They have great personalities, I hate this myth that if a guy doesn’t have a gf he must be as bland as a bag of rocks. If you don’t meet a woman’s looks threshold, why should she care how “charming” you are? There are tons of good looking + charming guys to choose from for women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 09:49 PM
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Difference is I have a wide variety of tastes. What I find “frumpy” you may find attractive and vice versa. Women as a whole seem to have the same kind of interests. And I don’t really mind if a girl is unemployed and broke, as long as she has ambition. Can’t say the same for women looking for a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 05:50 PM
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They want to join a saved game basically. And one that’s preferably made quite a bit of progress and is interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 04:32 PM
9

This is so true. The 40% are invisible
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 04:30 PM
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It depends on what you define as “heavy”. I just don’t think our interests would align with a girl that weighs over 250lbs or something. We all go to the gym regularly and eat healthy. It would just not be a great match. But a little overweight is not a big deal of course, as long as she had an active lifestyle and was working towards getting in shape/healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:40 AM
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Not sure, maybe it’s just the location I’m in but the only guys that seem to be dating seem to be really exceptional in one area (really tall, very good looking, super rich, or personality is that of a professional stand-up comedian). Above average doesn’t cut it where I live because the women just have so many good options to choose from
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:37 AM
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Hm? I have tons of friends that are fit, make 6 figures, have great personalities, have their own place and car, and are struggling to find a girl to date because they aren’t considered conventionally attractive. So I don’t really know what you are talking about here
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 11:58 PM
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It’s not even just that. Even the guys who aren’t obese and make over 50k a year are struggling, so you can’t just look at numbers and make general conclusions
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 11:32 PM
2

“A lot of guys” have all 5 of those traits? Have not laughed this hard in a while, ty for that. That’s why so many women are complaining that men are trash, right? In the US, only 14% of guys are above 6 ft in height, 10% make 6 figures, and an even smaller portion of that have a full head of hair, muscular/fit, and considered attractive. Now imagine that rare guy (conditional probability of all those aforementioned rare traits), also not having a huge ego, having been treated well throughout hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:33 PM
3

Just feel bad for them. Most likely have low self-esteem or some other issues
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:30 PM
2

Oh ok so basically a mythical being, or a 1 out of ten million guy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:55 PM
0

I’ve heard this a million times but the biggest misconception with posts like this is the fact that it’s super, super, super hard for women to be unattractive with the options that they have in regards to makeup and styling. Unless you are a 450 lb land whale, there will be SOME guy out there that’s attracted to you. Hell, there’s probably even some weirdo guy that would still be attracted to that land whale. However, I can’t say the same for men, even those that are relatively good looking and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:20 PM
7

This is possibly the most accurate thing I’ve ever read in my life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:47 AM
2

Just watched the tiktok and…what an unbearable gremlin bitch. Every time she laughs I lose 5 years off my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 04:08 PM
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I think an unattractive man can eventually find a woman to like him if he can demonstrate other traditional appealing values like confidence, humor, etc. But to find a women that would simp for him enough to provide for that guy? No, I’m 100% sure that’s an impossible occurrence. Even for an average guy, that’s pretty much impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:41 PM
2

Not like she’s gonna be paying for anything, so why would men care
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:19 PM
3

If you are an unattractive, low income guy, you are invisible and worthless in society. Sure you have “upward mobility” but how possible/easy is that? As for the woman counterpart, there’ll still be some guy out there who’ll simp for her. Maybe not a HVM, but one that can provide her food and shelter. Much more than what the LVM can get
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:11 PM
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Being “nice, respectful, and non-offensive” as a guy is a surefire way to guarantee virginity at 30
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 02:01 PM
1

If a doctor made 40k a year, you think women would still go crazy for them??
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 01:09 PM
8

These days getting a ring on your finger as a woman means you’ve won, whereas becoming a husband means you’re most likely a loser simp that needed to commit and stake all your assets just for some starfish sex once a month, like you said
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:55 PM
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Yea, but I also see a lot of real life relationships in which the girl is much more attractive than the guy, but the guy is super extroverted, dynamic, and funny. And no, not tall or rich or anything, but obviously not a dead beat guy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:57 PM
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Pretty much. I have a lot of guy friends that aren’t photogenic but if you meet them, they have extremely vibrant personalities, and I’m sure that would help them be viewed more positively than just a couple static photos. Conversely, I remember tons of attractive people from high school that had a terrible personality which made them seem uglier over time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:13 PM
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Definitely. I feel that a lot of guys don’t care much about a girl’s education and career (compared to looks) but that’s become a huge priority for me. I think what made my parents marriage work so well is that they both came from similar educational backgrounds (masters degrees), had similar income levels, and basically there was no power imbalance in their relationship. Contrast that to my uncle and aunt, uncle is a surgeon and aunt is a teacher, she gets abused pretty much daily but still sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:13 PM
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My parents have been married for over 30 years, with pretty much no problems, and are like inseparable best friends. They just complement each other so well in so many aspects. I genuinely think what makes their marriage work is that they are rich af lol. Very few worries, so they just travel around the world now together. I mean they had to work hard to get to that point, but now they’re definitely enjoying life together discovering new places and having new experiences. But even when I was gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 01:06 PM
1

Well I definitely don’t just tell what I make, but I’m sure girls can tell I’m doing decently well from the clothes I wear, stuff I have, and my general attitude toward money and going out. But yes you’re right, I’m lacking with hobbies, but only because my whole life has pretty much been focused on school and career so far, and working out with the extra time I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 11:01 PM
2

Yeah to be fair I never really tried but I’ve also never really gotten a “hint” from a girl, like even a smile. I just don’t want to randomly hit on girls that haven’t shown interest, know what I mean? Also, dating apps have been a total fail, but my pictures are also bad so idk. Now that I’m out of college it’s impossible to find any girls so it’s tough, plus I’m working from home so I haven’t met anyone in a while
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:44 PM
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I don’t think I’m unattractive but the fact that no girl has expressed interest in me for 22 years is a bit concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:47 AM
3

Why? When you make 6 figures women automatically flock to you?? I don’t get your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 04:23 PM
1

TIL that if I consider myself a 1, I’m actually a -1
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 07:55 AM
5

This isn’t true. It’s just the alpha chad high finance guy doesn’t have to go to a website like Ashley Madison to cheat. They cheat just as much, if not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:01 PM
1

They start to follow the same trend. They probably live in a HCOL area and interact with other people of similar wealth and education level. It’s just natural that they meet someone that is also pretty well off, and it has nothing to do with being snobby. It’s like how a lot of doctors will marry other doctors they meet in medical school. It’s just convenient. Plus, you know for a fact those women aren’t gold diggers, and they can put up with and understand your busy schedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:02 PM
0

Yeah but again, you are missing out on the commitment part which leads me to believe you have no actual bearing or reality of how dating works for UMC or UC. There’s much more to a partner than just attractiveness. She has to come from a good family and have good education. She has to behave a certain way. There’s a reason why ethots aren’t exactly getting proposed to by high value men. And sure, a CEO might find a starbucks barista “interesting”, but that doesn’t mean he’s gonna put a ring on h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:46 AM
4

Not as easy as you think. There’s TONS of competition. Think of all those sorority girls. Blond hair, blue eyes, perfectly toned figure. That’s not enough these days to be a trophy wife. You really have to be stand out attractive, not just generic 6 or 7 with makeup. I’m in SoCal around multi millionaires and their trophy wives everyday and these women are often extremely attractive AND well educated meaning Ivy League graduate degree that they left behind to become a trophy wife. So no, I don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 07:43 AM
1

But by your own logic, if a woman compliments a guy she doesn’t know, there’s a good chance she finds him attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:14 PM
2

I don’t think I’ve ever had a woman be nice to me out of nowhere so if one did, yeah it would be hard not to be a little surprised and/or curious if she liked me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 07:04 PM
1

I wouldn’t say Jeff Bezos is any of the first 7, and yet, he can probably pull more and better women than both of us combined. Maybe reorder your list.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:28 PM
2

Better to be alone than a beta provider imo. There’s so much to keep you occupied these days, why would you want to marry some leech?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:23 PM
2

Great catch, that’s sort of what inspired my post lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:04 PM
3

I wouldn’t say turning her nose up, but it hasn’t helped me significantly. It’s not a crazy income where I’m from. Inflation is getting really bad, houses are nearly all a million now. 200k is not as much as you think, especially after taxes in CA
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:25 AM
2

Not sure how you got that from reading my post. If anything, I was comparing men to a video game and saying that women come at the end, after all the men’s hardship and struggle, and choose whichever game looks the most interesting and is further along in progress and join at that level while largely ignoring the guys still at the starting line but show lots of promise and are good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 05:13 AM
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My argument is that women want that 5% despite being in the 95% themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:41 AM
0

Lol where?? I always hear about these fairy tale guys but have never seen one in real life. And most likely those guys are absolutely loaded, and sleeping with used up gold diggers, not getting actual relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 07:45 PM
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As someone else said already, the importance of conventionally attractive looks. And sure, I knew looks mattered. But as I grew older, I was shocked at how similar the tastes of all women were, despite age, race, religion, level of education, etc. If you are not tall, white, handsome, no girl is going to want to get near you enough to learn about your personality, intelligence, humor, hobbies. If you don’t meet a certain level of aesthetics, you basically do not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:15 PM
1

Why do you act like you are saying something revolutionary. If you said you don’t care about a guys money as a women, I would’ve been more surprised tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:37 AM
2

I mean…do you want me to lie? It’s hard enough for avg healthy guys to get laid as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:33 AM
1

30%??? LOL ok this is why I hate this sub. You’re out of your mind. Already at 21/22 70% of people I’ve lost their virginity. And you’re propositioning that in ten or so years it’ll shift by 8/9 years?!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 06:23 AM
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No way, it’s like 1% and possibly even less. This includes disabled people and asexual people also
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:39 PM
19

A lot of my friends joke if that they’re still virgins by 30, they’ll just see a hooker but I don’t think it’s a joke anymore lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:38 PM
5

Thank you that makes much more sense. Ig my argument is that there are tons of “Adonis” type guys out there, so that’s when hypergamy comes into play. Like it’s really not hard to be an Adonis as you described, so I think you are discounting the importance of genetics (attractiveness, hair, height).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:45 PM
1

Ok, but by your logic the only thing a guy can truly “bring to the table” is more money/wealth/assets. If a given women has thousands of potential options, there are probably a couple hundred guys she finds attractive. I’m sure a lot of those guys lead interesting lives and have cool hobbies, so that can’t be something unique that they “bring”. So the only thing I can think of that is super differentiating is someone making a lot of money I.e. a 1 %er
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 09:38 PM
1

Because again, it’s just too much effort for very, very mediocre results. That effort can be expended elsewhere, especially considering most of us men are busy with school or work, we’re already tired as it is. I don’t have time to take thousands of selfies like a lot of girls, and choose the perfect one
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:12 PM
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This comment should end the thread, there’s nothing more to say. That’s why us guys don’t care to put much effort into dating apps. We could potentially go from 1 out of 10,000 matches to 1 out of 7,000 matches, and that’s if we really, really improved our dating profile. Juice not worth the squeeze
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:18 PM
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This is pretty much it right here tbh. Follow this, and say hello to your perfect doctor husband. That’s all they need to do to be set, and yet most women can’t do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:14 PM
2

A mans worth is literally how much money he makes ig lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:50 PM
2

Because it’s such a small sample size in comparison to the actual size of the population of Caucasian men, which is a huge no no in statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 04:48 PM
1

In general, I mean the dad isn’t an alcoholic wife beater and mom a druggy or something extreme like that. Even in that case, a person can learn what not to be from their toxic parents. But I won’t lie, I come from a culture where we believe that you pretty much marry into a family. So my parents having a happy, healthy relationship, masters degrees, and lots of property would probably not be super enthusiastic about me bringing home a girl that has divorced parents and a couple of step siblings…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:27 AM
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Well it’s easy for women to get sex, a relationship is harder. A ring? Much, much, much harder, especially from what you women call a “high-value” man. It would probably take some combination of good looks, great sex, good education, good family, emotionally sound, and most importantly, general compatibility. Without that, commitment won’t happen. There’s just too much to lose for men these days when it comes to marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 01:10 AM
2

That’s embarrassing tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:42 PM
4

Can you post a picture of yourself? You probably look like Irina Shayk, right?? Who are you to determine what genetics are “poor”? Get off your high horse. It might blow your mind, but many women are still attracted to “average” guys. That’s the whole REASON average guys even exist. Or else every guy would be walking around like a male model by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:05 AM
4

They grew up in conservative India were sleeping around or dating is basically means to kick your kids out of the house, and they got an arranged marriage pretty early, so I highly doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:44 AM
1

Ah ok makes sense, great answer
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:25 AM
7

My parents were exclusive with one another, and I could never imagine leading on multiple women. It just feels gross
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:23 AM
1

Oh ok yeah I get that. That’s annoying
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 02:03 AM
1

What do you consider educated? A basic bachelors degree? Or masters? And do you care about school and/or specific degree?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 02:03 AM
1

I genuinely didn’t know this, cause most of the girls on tinder say like a one line joke for their bio, or “make me laugh”, or they link their Instagram and Snapchat. Maybe it’s just my age range? Which is around 18-23
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 02:01 AM
2

Lol what. I look down on people who smoke weed, cigarettes, drink, eat fast food, sugar, etc. I think it’s stupid to willingly smoke or consume any of that stuff knowing it’s bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:19 AM
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But how would someone on tinder know if a certain person had a master’s degree or not??? Take a picture of it? Humble brag in their bio?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:25 PM
5

Oh wow how nice and noble of you to say that you wouldn’t date a pornstar. Seriously, does anyone believe what this cuck is saying?? Watch, in ten years we’re gonna be shamed for not wanting to date pornstars. Like, how stupid do you have to be to not understand that no decent guy wants to put a ring on the finger of some girl who whores herself out to horny guys. Yeah, sue me for not wanting to bring that sort of girl home and introduce her to my family and friends. My bad
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:31 PM
3

First one, second sounds like a gold digger that sleeps around
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:17 PM
24

Isn’t it a bit weird to you to date 18-20 year old girls??? You guys are in totally different stages of life. Almost comes off as grooming tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:12 AM
62

Exactly, couldn’t have said it better myself. Half the time I opened up with “hey” or “hi” and it was the women that would write paragraph long texts back to me. It was surreal. No need for “game”, a “funny opener”, or a great personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 10:52 PM
16

Yeah I did, and I never got any matches or likes from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 10:50 PM
15

Yeah, I have a conventionally attractive (tall, white, muscular) friend who has no shortage of matches, and he told me something similar. Basically most of his matches are either ugly, fat, boring (start off with saying “hi” and then respond with one liners), or super entitled. Not much better than getting no matches, like me. I guess the grass really is always greener on the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 10:49 PM
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Thank you lol, that’s exactly what I meant. Many of these girls had “no hook ups” or “looking for my husband” or “only LTRs” on their bio, and these same girls were throwing themselves at me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 09:34 PM
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I catfished as a model-looking white guy and got matches upon matches, many of which were women that made it VERY clear they wanted sex immediately. It was mind blowing to me as an average to below average guy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 08:59 PM
9

I wonder why people “bitch” about smoking…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 08:01 PM
4

Yeah no I’m not some woman’s clown or personal entertainment system when she gets bored
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:37 PM
9

Female ego for sure. And with the popularity of social media, mediocre girls can get hundreds or even thousands of likes for their selfies and tons of simps in their DMs. All of this boosts their ego
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 05:04 AM
2

Bit of a nonsensical question. You need money to literally live and survive, but if any guy told you his drive to get rich and acquire assets has nothing to do with wanting to have sex with attractive women, he is lying to your face, or asexual, or gay, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:23 AM
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Oh I see. Where I’m from (CA), there are tons of dynamic guys that try to improve everyday. Hope you find a guy like that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:55 PM
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But what do you mean by “provide more”? Like…more hobbies? Or do you mean like the guy has to be a millionaire? I don’t really understand your post
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:43 PM
10

Tbh this is like 99% true. No one wants to say this out loud because it’s a terrible thing, but it’s nearly always true. If it wasn’t for the fact that we find women attractive and want sex, we men would definitely not interact with women as much as we do now. That’s not to say we’d never, ever interact. I still have friends that are girls, my mom, my sister, and other women that I enjoy spending time with genuinely. But for the most part, I would just spend time with the boys if it wasn’t for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:21 AM
1

No one cares about men’s emotions, end of story
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:48 AM
56

This just in, big if true. Women says she and her female friends find hot white guys attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:37 AM
2

If I make 200k is that considered upper class? I live in a HCOL area what’re only 400k+ is considered to be doing pretty well I think
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/21 08:58 PM
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You can end the thread on this comment, beautifully put. Just want to add that in contrast, a women’s personality and money won’t make up for her poor looks to the same degree that it will for a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 07:34 PM
5

Yeah I get what you mean. Problem is, a lot of guys my age also have no choice but to stay with their parents, so not all of them are doing it just to save money. Many are taking a 5th year to graduate college or are unemployed and can’t find a job. So unfortunately, many girls upon hearing that you live with your parents default to those scenarios, which tbf are very real and actually is the case for many 21 yr old guys. Well the problem is I don’t pay rent or anything, I’m one of those new gra…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 12:25 AM
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Because of hypergamy. I can tell you from experience that a lot of guys will disqualify themselves if they still live with their parents aka they won’t even try to date because they think it is hopeless and no girls wants a guy who isn’t independent and “stable”. In contrast, most guys don’t care about a girls living/financial situation. Personally as a 21 yr old guy, I’d feel a little embarrassed to have to go to the girls house every time while living with my parents. Plus if you have strict p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 10:46 PM
2

6 is not small in any world unless you’ve got a cave for a vagina….
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 08:21 AM
1

Lol your last 2 lines are nonsense. The fact that women now have good jobs and make money is worse for average men. No women, if they can help it, wants to marry a guy making less than them, and watch all their girl friends get engaged to the 6 figure guy who bought them a diamond engagement ring and threw a lavish wedding
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:47 PM
2

But gay men are known to be even pickier than women, so this argument is irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 07:17 PM
1

My dad is 5’5” and I know a lot of guys around that height or even shorter. Tbf they are of the older generation, but still, they exist and they are still men…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 04:34 AM
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This. I learned this the hard way. Never ever show off your wealth or talk about your income, it never ends well. They say that money changes you, but I think money actually changes those around you. I’ve lost many friends because of money, it’s stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:52 PM
1

I see what you mean; I agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 12:14 PM
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This is the stupidest thing I’ve read all day, and that’s saying something. Many people, man or woman, realize that marriage is one of the easiest methods of social mobility. If you truly believe that a working class woman, given the opportunity, wouldn’t want to settle down with a rich guy, you live under a rock. And not sure why you’re generalizing all upper class men as “effeminate”. What about athletes? Football players? Celebrities? Are they all feminine?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 06:38 AM
5

I genuinely don’t understand what you are trying to imply. “We” are all humans. “We” collectively participate in society. That’s the point of capitalism…we reward the “smart” humans, and the rest of us can purchase their inventions aka guns. I can buy a gun with my hard-earned money that would kill a lion, because I am a part of this thing called “society”. Maybe if you crawled out from under your basement, you’d realize that “we” as a species live together, share stuff, and evolve as a people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 12:00 PM
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Yeah but that’s the point…..we developed guns. Brains > Brawn. Call me when a lion can beat a missile launcher. We are the superior species, end of story. We could kill all animals if we wanted to, but we happen to like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:24 AM
1

Well tbf, the Dunning Krueger effect also suggests that those that are below avg think of themselves as avg to slightly above, while those that are above avg will rate themselves as lower. So basically, there are a lot of humble smart people or humble attractive people that aren’t in danger of overrating themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 07:01 PM
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I agree. The average guy will be able to have a couple of sexual partners throughout his life. If you aren’t getting anything, you’re most likely below average. Unfortunately, this is a hard pill to swallow for a lot of folks. No one wants to believe that they’re below average. I think there’s been studies that suggest most people who are below average in something will always rate themselves as slightly above average in that particular thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:41 PM
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I’m well off and can clearly see that marriage is a scam for guys like us, unless you are lucky to find a partner of similar net worth or at least close to yours. As you said, there’s just too much to be lost and too little to be gained with marriage, especially in this current climate for a guy. And also be hyper aware that there are many, many, many women in their 30s who are ready to drop anything to marry a guy like you or your friends to set up a “stable” life for her and her future offspri…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:43 AM
3

Exactly, I’ve been called lame and scared and what not. Just have to ignore those people
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 09:00 PM
2

Wow I’m actually surprised. Just feels like everyone around me drinks, but I’m also in college so I’m in a bit of a bubble
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:59 PM
1

I would love to find a wholesome virgin girl, and only consummate after marriage, but I’m also more than aware that’s extremely unlikely in this day and age. Just in case, I get called hypocritical, I’m also a virgin. It just sucks because I only recently realized how few women actually wait until marriage to lose their virginity. Something like 3% last time I checked, and that doesn’t even include people who have done other sexual activities apart from intercourse. If Adriana Lima can wait so c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:11 PM
1

Ig you and I are pretty rare, everyone else I know drinks, it’s sort of annoying but it’s their choice I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:03 PM
7

I don’t drink whatsoever, have never drunk before, and don’t plan to at any time of my life. I think it’s legal poison, and I’ve seen how it can ruin people’s lives very quickly. I don’t need it to fake confidence either. It’s similar to coffee; you end up becoming dependent. Anyway, I understand those who drink in moderation or just for social events, but I definitely would not want to be with a drinker. It’s just a complete waste of money and life. People have been pretty understanding of this…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 08:02 PM
1

Ok but what about unrealistic height standard, and wanting only the tallest 14% of guys? How do you improve height?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 07:13 AM
2

I see what you mean now, I agree with that. I grew up in a million dollar house in LA and was surrounded by new money, the type of kids that had traditionally successful doctor, lawyer, engineer parents. And usually, both their mom and dad would be well educated and in high power jobs, and also contribute equally to the household, same case with my own parents. They primarily spend their money on fancy sports cars or exotic vacations, not butlers and maids, so that’s how I guessed you were refer…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 10:37 PM
2

Lol I also grew up in an affluent area and have many family members and friends that make well over 99th percentile income. Not sure exactly where you grew up, but at least in CA, the rich men here are hyper aware of leeches and potential gold diggers. Maids, butlers, chefs, either sounds like some sort of fantasy, the UK, or maybe the Hamptons. Other than those specific locations, other rich people don’t live like that AT ALL. In fact, most people get rich by saving and invest their money. I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 10:16 PM
1

So then are you “generous” with your pussy after he pays? What’s in it for the guy? To be a walking atm machine? Why would any guy of that socioeconomic class, who probably has multiple options, want an LTR with someone like you? What do you offer besides a vagina? For a hundred dollars, might as well go for a hooker
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:38 PM
1

You do realize America doesn’t just consist of white people, right???
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 01:57 AM
2

This x1000. A guy making 200k is probably pretty busy, so it would be nice for the women to take care of domestic duties. But no rich guy wants to marry a leech
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 12:26 AM
1

Yo why does the balding janitor have to be Indian? Are we Indians really that disgusting?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:37 AM
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Someone brought up a really good point that genetics can only do so much, given that social dynamics is constantly changing. For example, in certain cultures and time periods, kissing a women’s hand would be seen as honorable and a good thing. But in other times, I.e. now, it’s just seen as creepy or weird
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 06:10 AM
3

Really? Then why do so many girls reply with “OK incel” when they’re losing an argument??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 04:53 AM
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You mean very hot or very ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:42 AM
3

Societal or familial pressure. Literally the only reason. A guy that’s rich will gain nothing by getting married, and have so much to lose
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 01:15 AM
2

Sounds great, happy for you!
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