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No....? I was answering a question, and that question wasn't 'does anyone have a phD-level dissertation of MGTOW's attitudes towards gender equality?'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 02:04 PM
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I literally just explained that, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 10:33 AM
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Erm, I didn't make that claim- I answered a question that asked I've never heard a MGTOW said that women should have their rights taken away. Can you show me an example? and I gave a couple of examples. My next comment Honestly, just a quick google of 'MGTOW + controversial topic' usually brings up a bunch of their threads. MGTOW is like TRP on bitter steroids. is my overall view on MGTOW, not a quick opinion based on two threads I quickly glanced at. I've been following the MRA advancement sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 09:06 PM
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You need a dictionary? Governments evolve over time and the ones that stick around longer slowly evolve. If you need one that's lasted longer than the US's, the history of rights and voting with the British parliament is a good place to start. It's not perfect, but it's been around long enough that there's a good timeline.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 07:47 PM
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MGTOW doesn't equate to feminism, MGTOW equates to radfem. MGTOW is a subgroup of MRA, and not the other way around. So no, I don't think a huffpo piece- particularly since huffpo is just as biased towards liberalism as fox is towards conservatism- isn't enough of a statement. Fox News has several opinion pieces by Suzanne Venker, a known critic of modern feminism who strongly believes in the need for 'masculine and feminine' energies in a relationship. Does that allow me to unequivocally state …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 07:45 PM
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Probably not the same reason you're slowly trying to circle a bunch of singular questions around someone to force them into a gotcha moment, I reckon. As for why, partially due to the natural march of government policy evolution that happens in a lot of places, if incrementally, and because they wanted the right to self governance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 07:27 PM
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Feminists in general, even academic ones like the ones given space to write WaPo articles titled "why can't we hate men?" Considering there are oodles of different feminist subsections, with some wildly varying outlooks on men, life, etc, that's a little unnecessarily vague. I'd argue that it'd be similar to lumping together Catholics and Mormons together- there's certainly some pertinent shit in common but also a pretty big group of differences. As for the article- I get it. I think is where yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 07:25 PM
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For a multitude of reasons including not liking taxation without representation, what they considered the inalienable rights of (landowning) men to have a voice in their gov't, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 07:10 PM
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Feminists in general, or radfems? Because I already believe/know that radfems tend to hate men and would be fine with them withering away and dying. That's why even though I'm pretty far left I don't associate with them except to debate. While I have some serious issues with TRP, I don't necessarily equate TRP as equal to incel or MGTOW, either. lol what do you guys fight about? Eh, I thought Clinton was a terrible choice for the democratic vote and I had some people try to set my hair on fire a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 07:07 PM
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Cos the founding fathers, I suppose, although it's not really the question at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 07:02 PM
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What do you mean by substantial? Is there a number that needs to be hit before it's considered enough? Not to be snarky, just curious. As far as the radfem thing goes, I kind of like them. Eh, I got into so many fights with them during the election that whatever charm they had faded pretty quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 07:00 PM
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/why-the-fuck-are-women-allowed-to-vote/ starts that rabbit hole https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marital-rape-laws/ Honestly, just a quick google of 'MGTOW + controversial topic' usually brings up a bunch of their threads. MGTOW is like TRP on bitter steroids. Speaking as a pretty outspoken feminist myself, I definitely agree with the MGTOW+Radfem race to the bottom. I think both groups will end up cannibalising themselves though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 06:49 PM
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Just for sex? Eh, depending on how the dude is it might help. For some it will because there are no glaring flaws, just rough spots that can be smoothed and polished. Others it won't, because the deficit they're trying to cover isn't the one they actually have. There's other issues that play into it (availability of women, general culture, etc) so it's a coin toss. Or maybe a d20 roll.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 05:09 PM
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I don't get asked out much anymore- I'm in my thirties now and I'm allergic to most social related stuff. When I was younger most of the time it was just due to the fact that I was one of the few woman around who were into perceived dude-stuff like video games and/or because I'm half-Asian and some people are really weird about that. I'm pretty sure half the guys weren't into me as a person, just what I presented. I'm fine with being single and don't like being hassled, so while being asked out …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 08:50 AM
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I took that test ages ago on a lark. Words, Acts of Service and Touch were all tied; Quality Time and Gifts were far at the bottom are my preferences. As for what I'm willing to give, pretty much everything but Quality Time as it cuts too much into my 'I'm gonna lay down and daydream' me time. I'm a woman, pill I'm gonna be contrarian and say I don't have one, but most would put me at blue or blue purple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 08:45 AM
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While single, did you ever feel some loneliness or anything analogue that led you to consider a relationship? No, but I'm a natural introvert with no burning desire to have a partner. If you did, did you ever have a mental list of requirements for the guys you would commit to, or can you, in hindsight, notice that you kind of had such a list? And did you observe a change in these requirements at some point, or notice this change in hindsight? Whatever I had as a list has expanded in some ways an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 08:01 PM
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I'm mostly concerned about the creeping onset of osteoporosis, or the possibility of it (neither side of the family has it, so I might be safe). Other than that, I do a lot of skincare for my own reasons but if I wrinkle, I wrinkle. Such is life. Other people's opinion of my SMV isn't a concern to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 07:56 PM
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Me doing the asking: zero. I've made interest known, but that's it. Me being asked, 20-30 times over a 20ish year range. Mostly when I was younger and more social.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 11:50 AM
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The theory requires the opposite end (in this case, a woman) to work within specific parameters in order to achieve a certain effect. If girls are x (x being 'attracted to buff men'), then getting buff should help you attain the girl. If girls are y (y being hypergamous, and we'll set that as an income level of, say, 75k), then hitting a yearly salary of 75k+ should help you attain the girl. My main issue with TRP is that it tends to portray women as absolutes. It's all well and good to say 'if …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 02:48 AM
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Very much so. Since that's the case, however, how are Blues so confident in their evidence-based dismissal of RP theory? To be blunt, TRP suffers from a serious overreliance on evopsych, which is still a budding school that has come under serious fire from a variety of other disciplines. I'm not saying BP is right every single time, or that TRP is always wrong, but evopsych in it's current form is pretty easy to argue against. The strong reliance from some TRPers to treat things as absolutes doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 10:15 PM
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Arguably, Dr Money's training. TRP is a mishmash of personal anecdotes and evopsych, and there's a lot of criticism revolving around it. Imho, the main issue is that evopsych is a macrostudy that is often used to microexplain, if that makes sense. I get that, but we're here debating a deep rooted, fundamental nature of women(and men) down to the evolutionary programming. That's the point. If it's so deep rooted and fundamental, why is there a considerable range of differences- cultural and other…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 09:35 PM
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as if blues know our individual and collective experiences with women intimately enough to make such a statement with confidence Well, TRPers tend to make a lot of blatant and confident assertions on women despite people talking about their own, very different experiences with women/as woman as well, so.... So if TRP is wrong in its application of, or flat out lacking in "science" to understand the nature of women and for men be successful with women (sexually), then surely there must be appropr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 08:50 PM
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Could easily just be that, I suppose. I feel that it's impossible to say exactly what attracts us (editorial us) as it can vary so highly from person to person. There's so many potential influences that it's hard to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 08:31 PM
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I think a likely answer is that while I don't think he's necessarily a knuckle draggin' misogynist, he does strike me as a bit creepy. People with serious age fixations (male or female) always seem off to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 04:36 PM
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You can leave a relationship for whatever reason you want. I do think attraction isn't just a passive thing. Romance, lust and attraction can to a certain degree be worked on. You can't raise the dead, but you can revive the comatose if you're both committed to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 08:12 PM
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I don't particularly care, tbh, but I've known a fair number of sex workers, or former sex workers, so I got a lot of their perspective on things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 05:57 PM
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Confidence in either gender tends to be an attractor. It doesn't have to be a romantic/sexual attractor, humans are just drawn (generally) to it. The line between confidence and asshole is nearly invisible at times, particularly with the 'hot and crazy' variety of human. It's not a universal rule by any stretch of the definition, but look at how we flock to 'powerful' politicians and celebrities. Even if we know them to have abrasive, asshole tendencies we still tend to revere them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 03:26 AM
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Mu. There's no such thing as an always perfect time. If you're looking for better times, social gatherings. I hate parties and generally avoid them, but on the occasion that I'm roped into it, I expect people will want to chat and that's fine. I don't hold a desire for a conversation against someone. When is it never okay? Basically when you're in a position of power- even a temporary, vague one- over another person. There's a reason why people poo-poo hitting on baristas and cashiers- as a cust…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 11:10 PM
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I think there's two different things at play, here. It's not surprising her husband lost interest after such a massive weight gain. Cheating is a shitty thing to do. 130 pounds is a lot, and if my partner was starting to get heavier, I'd want them to go to the doctor and a therapist. Shit happens, life after baby happens, they probably need professional help. Maybe they're emotional eaters and could benefit from some psych help to curb that- from my perspective, I want a good, long life with my …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 11:05 PM
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I find them useless tbh. When people are being questioned, I find that they're overly specific- moreso than irl. What they thibk rarely correlates to reality- I've met precious few people who can reliably guess someone's weight and height just by looking at them. And people change on contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 10:41 PM
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I could do that of I were still in Indiana, but here it's a no go, even eschewing empty calorie foods like chips and cookies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 10:28 PM
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That's about on par for where I live, close to (but not in) Baltimore County, MD. At normal grocery stores, as I'm way too cheap to shop in the organic/non-gmo/whatever stores. I'll eat my mutant green beans and enjoy it. It's a big issue as to why people in the poorer areas have struggles here- the beltway effect hoses the lower middle class. I've lived all over the country, and grocery store prices for fresh food vary wildly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 10:11 PM
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No. Blood isn't a good lubricant and I'm not cleaning that shit up. If they really need something that badly, adjustments can be made. The FWB will end. I don't have an issue with people who have multiple partners but I'd need to be really close to someone to even consider a FWB and yeah, I'd demand a form of monogamy. Which is why I don't do FWB, lol. I'd be impressed since my cycle is extremely- think months- irregular. That being said, if they're avoiding me totally- like won't go out to eat,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 10:36 PM
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Uh, that's super ham handed. I can see where certain aspects of the patriarchy might view men cheating on woman as acceptable if you squint a little, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 07:23 PM
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For instance: Have you known men which you would never consider dating options, who then changed in some way and then became attractive to you? What happened to change your view? I don't view guys as dating material when I meet them so that's happened with every dude I've dated. I'm just not dating/romance inclined in the first place though, so that plays a large part of it. Alternatively: Have you ever dated someone, initially been attracted to them, lost attraction due to some trait appearing …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 12:33 PM
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If it's more important for someone to look good in front of others rather than being good for you, they're not worth the trouble, move on. It's okay to be happy alone. No one thing can destroy most relationships. You need to do what's best for you. Be the best version of you for you, and not for a (potential) partner. 50/50 doesn't mean what you think it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 08:58 PM
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Well, you got the first part right. The second part is something I've observed from the outside (I'm not a man) men passing on down to their sons. In order to be A MANZ, you need to be x, y, or z. I've seen plenty of guys develop complexes over what it means to be a man without the need for a woman hovering near by, rubbing their claws together and cackling about the lack of dudliness the guys is bringing. How can I reasonably support my children when the price of rent is skyrocketing? How can I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 11:36 AM
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About half are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 11:36 AM
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Eh, I don't know that it's solvable in totality. You could fix the sexual side, at least for incels/people desperate to have sex by making sexual fulfillment affordable and accessible AND making it attractive as a job in and of itself- but for people actually searching for emotional intimacy, there's no silver bullet. You can't make people magically make people studs, and you can't force half of the population back into a system that removes the agency of choice. Theoretically, education and sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 03:03 AM
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I highly doubt it's just one thing. It's rarely just one thing, and the economic recession is not the worst that's ever existed. I'm technically a millennial, as I turned 18 in 2000. Looking at my single friends- straight, bi, gay, pan, etc- there's a number of reasons why those of us who haven't gotten down in a while are in that position. The economic recession has had an effect on those of us unmarried, unmatched, and currently not having sex (I'm part of this group). Divorcees of both gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 10:37 PM
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My brother's one of those natural charmers- we were always tripping over the girls who wanted him in school. I think a key factor is that he's pretty comfortable around women, and always has been. We're very close in age (less than two years apart) and played together a lot as a kid, and growing up my mom had her sisters over a lot, so he got to interact with, and observe, a lot of women. We've also always shared a certain pool of friends. He figured out how to charm the (generally metaphorical,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 12:31 PM
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It's going to vary from woman to woman, or feminist to feminist. Personally, I think anyone's going to have their best shot if they approach someone in a social situation. Bars, parties, get togethers, etc. If a person is clearly preoccupied with something else (browsing books in a bookstore/library, grocery shopping, etc) then chances will dip. It's not a 100% success rate for tons of reasons, but at least there's a better chance that they're there to socialise. Times when they're at work/on bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 12:25 PM
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Q4All: Assuming all parties involved willingly consent to enter the relationship, would you judge polygamy different than monogamy? Not really. I don't get the appeal at all, but if it's safe, sane and with informed consent, I don't give a shit what adults do with their love lives so long as they leave me alone about my choices. If you're worried about the emotional health of the people involved, making sure they're in good mental shape before the choice is offered to them is 1000% better than t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 04:18 AM
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The top tier ones, yeah. The dudes blowing themselves to kingdom come are generally not as well educated, if they're educated at all, and they tend to be much poorer. The more intelligent ones become ringleaders. Exceptions exist, obviously, but looking at the mass of foot soldiers, they tend to be of the unkempt, impoverished sort. There's a reason why bin Laden had people blow themselves up instead of offering himself up. In the West they're more likely to become lone wolf serial killers. Or c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 04:14 AM
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Assuming a long term relationship that was healthy in the past: Get help for addiction, get help for mental illness, be a productive member of the relationship. The 'cure' doesn't have to be immediate, but it does have to be consistent. What leads me to give up on the relationship? Not being reasonably high on the priority list; I don't need attention 24/7, nor do I want it, and I don't want to babysit a boyfriend. If it's more important to you to have everyone else love you at the expense of my…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 08:15 PM
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Shows of emotion are fine, normal, and I wouldn't want to date a dude who couldn't, or wouldn't, be vulnerable around me. I have dysmythia myself and I know the struggle. Being unable to reasonably control emotion is a massive turnoff. It doesn't have to be sadness. Sloppy, drop of a hat rage isn't a good look. I feel that while there is no shame for having an issue, one should try to be proactive. I've supported people through depressive episodes, no sweat there, but if you're actively refusing…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 05:54 PM
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Eh, it's important than it's brushed, or properly buzzed if they're bald. Basically taken care of. No preference tbh. I've dated guys who started balding in high school and guys who would make Rapunzel rage with jealousy. Meh? I mean once you hit a certain age don't try to comb over that sucker but that's about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 01:07 PM
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The questions are generally dumb. There are some that are, at their worst, idiotic but not meant to be harmful, and then there are the weirdos who think that a delicate Asian lily is just waiting to be punished by a distinctly non-Asian man for their pleasure. It's just so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 03:47 AM
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I'm mixed, white and asian. I definitely stay away from dudes who say they have a 'thing' for asian chicks. I'm fine with, and have dated, guys who like different aspects of asian culture (history, philosophy, etc)- but the guys who just said 'I'm into asian chicks' were all very creepy. They had some ridiculous ideas about how 'asian women' (because they are clearly a monolith /s) are. I don't look particularly asian, and so men normally treat me as the average white woman when I meet them. Onc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 06:34 PM
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TBH (and speaking as someone who's currently been tasked with the birds and the bees/concept of consent talk with my nieces and cousins), I try not to say 'no you must never do this thing!!11!' because either a) they weren't inclined to it anyways, so redundant and just makes me look like a weirdo for even thinking it, or b) it sparks rebellion, aka the fallen Catholic schoolgirl effect. Usually with people who need advice, talking to them like they're reasonably intelligent and not acting like …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 06:20 PM
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In the most generic sense, no- I think we're all taught different ways to express it but most reasonably functioning humans are capable of it. Emotional availability isn't restricted to romantic/sexual partnerships. A good dad is emotionally available to his children, a good adult son is available to his mother, etc. It might be expressed differently, but it's there. Emotional intimacy, I feel, is more likely to be tied to romantic/sexual attraction, and men are taught to rely more heavily on wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 02:05 PM
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I think sexual compatibility is one of the most important aspects of a monogamous relationship. This doesn't necessarily mean you share equivalent sex drives, but rather your views on sex work well together. Two naturally low libido people in a relationship are probably going to have an easier go at it, even if they differ in a lot of other aspects, compared to a relationship where someone is very sexual with someone who is a borderline prude. I think this takes different facets, and is somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 01:43 AM
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Geninuely surprised tbh. Cowen's very moderate/middle of the pack compared to other supposed right of centre influencers. Personally don't agree, as I think it's more progressiveism versus conservatism, although I know some people who might argue that it's the same thing since conservatism tends to be portrayed as more patriarchial and progressivism is supposed to be egalitarian/'the future is female'.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 08:05 PM
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It depends. If he's either okay with monogamously living apart, no joined finances or intermingling, OR he's willing to mutually sign health POA's and having a joint bank account where we both deposit money for emergencies as a household (so we're living together in this capacity), then fine. Otherwise, no. I have little interest in marriage or a relationship to begin with and either it's zero investment or mutual investment. There's also not gonna be kids in this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 05:45 PM
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I mean, in theory it's 'don't be an asshole unnecessarily, and also don't put women on a pedestal' which by and large seems to be the smart thing to do, as it ultimately serves no one in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 11:42 PM
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It doesn't have to be, no. But happiness can be achieved, and I feel that as we go further in society (presuming no catastrophic fallback), happiness will become a bigger component in what people seek in marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 02:10 AM
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I don't think we'll ever really 'get past' the marriage era; unlike Europe Christianity has too strong of a stranglehold here. I'd also gently point out that your experiences aren't universal (as are no ones) and plenty of average/invisible/mediocre people are in happy, healthy relationships. I think marriage will continue to evolve, but in a positive way eventually. We're in a struggle bus period where shifting social viewpoints are outpacing economic ones- I think that it will catch up at some…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 12:52 AM
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Kind of? My paternal grandparents apparently had a very sweet, romantic relationship (grandpa died before I was born). My grandmother mourned him every day for the 40ish years afterwards, never remarried. My grandmother was the kind of woman TRP despises but she loved the hell out of my grandfather and apparently, he felt the same way for her- he defied his family and the Church to marry her. My dad had a friend in the Army who once got blindingly drunk and married a Korean woman. 4 kids and 30 …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 08:48 PM
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I'm not sure how much more I can pare it down. A lot of philosophies try to break social relations, whether political, romantic, platonic or familial into mathematic equations. 2+2 will always equal 4 = all women practise hypergamy, etc. Interpersonal relationships aren't that cut and dry. Philosophy requires a lot of pre-concluded ideas. There are seven billion+ humans. That's a lot of variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 01:20 PM
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No. What I believe is that any philosophy that promises to answer all of life's answers for you in a small neat package tends to lack nuance and promotes absolutes, neither of which are useful in the long run. BP likes to exaggerate RP views in the spirit of discrediting them RP tends to do that too. So do a lot of religions and philosophies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/18 01:00 PM
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I've been told that I'm kind of emotionally unavailable. My mother's Korean and relationships 'work' a little differently there- at least in traditionally, and my mom's from the Korean version of the boonies- than they do in the West. In my immediate family, the men are the bleeding heart romantics and out of the three women, my sister is asexual, my mother's an ice cube, and I'm just uncharmingly awkward. Never boded well since I live in the US now. While I feel that I'm pretty accommodating in…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 11:59 PM
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Do you believe that this happens? I mean, sure. Some women are really into stoicism. Some men leave women over being too emotional, too. Shit happens. If so, is it due to the usually attributed causes? Assuming neither parties are FUBAR, no. It's more of a straw that broke the camels back. Anecdotally, I can only think of one case where a woman had a warped view on what a man should be like, and left him in a moment of true emotional need. In other cases, including mine, it just got to be too mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 12:27 AM
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I don't think this is actually universal- my mother is so cheap that she can squeeze a penny into a five dollar bill- but my guess would be that for people who are financially irresponsible/living a champagne life on a beer budget, it boils down to what they saw growing up, and what, if anything, they learned about money. I used to blow reams of money when I first turned 18. I wasn't given an allowance growing up, and never handled more than ten dollars at a time because my mother is hamfisted a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 12:32 AM
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I think the reality is that there's not enough hard data that's not trawled from small pools of women, dating sites, and that a lot of women are still rather sexually repressed. Not that they don't have sexual urges, but rather a lot of people (casually speaking) tend to treat female sexual needs as non-existent or as taboo. A fairly caustic mixture of old world religion, in some places a lack of education on the female body and erogenous zones, porn for some people (men and women), etc. Trying …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 01:56 AM
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No, it's a human rights issues with different facets involving race, gender & gender identity (with respect to transfolk), sexuality, classism and nationality. Like most big issues, it's a hydra with multiple heads to be tackled.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 05:40 PM
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Is a month the new thing now? Growing up it was kissing by the third date and by three months in, you've either decided you're dating and are working towards, or at the brink of, having full blown sexual relations or you're parting ways. Obviously some people moved faster and some moved slower- faster by about a month, slower by up to six months, but that was really rare- but people seemed comfortable with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 12:04 PM
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Am a feminist, but have nfc what 'contemporary' feminist means, since there's about 100 different flavours out there. I have two younger brothers, one who is only a year and a half younger than I am. And for what it's worth, several male cousins, two of which are around my age and I spent a lot of time around as a kid. Most of my friends are dudes. I sympathise with a lot of the pressures that men undergo societally, but I prefer the men's lib movement to something like TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 12:02 PM
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Most things that men create are utterly useless in the grand scheme of things, so why should I be grateful to them? That was kind of the point. There are no magical brownie points for having a certain sort of junk.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 12:57 AM
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And men couldn't have children without women carrying the child. There's no special prize for either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 06:13 PM
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Women are dumb. Women are weak. Women are terrible drivers. Women aren't good at sports. Women are irrational. Men generalise just as much about women. People complain. It's a fact of life, and no set of genitals gets a pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 04:23 PM
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Lol, at least you're appreciative? Hopefully it's mutual. In all seriousness, the vast majority of us will never accomplish anything world changing, so I'll never see the point in being grateful for a dude just because some other dude did something once. That would be like me thanking my manager for Datsyuk.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 04:13 PM
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Why don't men go around thanking women for blasting out kids out of their vaginas? I'm grateful for certain men for the accomplishments, but those men are generally dead and therefore are not fussed by my general lack of praise.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 03:58 PM
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I think the average person is at least vaguely aware. Whether they care or not is another story. Most people, I think, are generally decent. We're all dunderheads occasionally and will make dumb, misogynist/misandrist comments in passing, but it's not the backbone of most of our personalities or core beliefs, nor do we generally knowingly embrace it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 05:08 PM
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Dependant on the woman. I know some who just enjoy one night stands and aren't interested in commitment, and some who think it's the best way to find love. For the latter, it's not so much a matter of how long it takes to get some revelations, but how soon someone is willing to look them in the eye and tell them, firmly but without anger or disgust, that this isn't the way to find love. I've given a few of those speeches. Depends entirely on what they want in a partner. I know guts who have marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 03:36 PM
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Neutral, generally. I have my own preferences in a partner and when someone tells me that a dude is great bf or husband material, they're speaking to their preferences, not mine. I appreciate them looking out for me, but I've found that all people have their own little quirks about their potential partners and what works for one person doesn't necessarily work for me. How strongly we value those traits also varies wildly between people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 11:23 PM
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At 33, as a single woman? I never thought I would, I don't think I will, but I'm not concerned about it either. I'll meet plenty of interesting people in my life and I don't have to love them, date them, sleep with them or woo them to care about them. I'm single and it's fine, it has perks that coupled life doesn't, and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 06:16 PM
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No you obviously missed my point because even when I assumed men and women are equal in libido and obedience (99%) for both, it's still the reality not a weak assumption that it takes more than one woman to give birth to 1000 children in a year. I'm not contesting that, where the hell did you get that from? I'm saying it makes little sense in terms of education, particularly due to the maelstrom that is puberty. That one man can effectively impregnate multiple women in a year doesn't somehow neg…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 12:42 AM
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To me, it seems that if while BluePill ideology states that sexual experimentation isn’t wrong etc, and a woman is allowed to do w/e she pleases. On an instinctual level at least for men, they feel that it’s wrong or at the very least feel bad for the guy. My take? No one wants to be perceived as less than by the competition, even if that competitor isn't even competing anymore. People obsess about being 'better' than the past experiences. 'Do you love me more than her?' 'Am I better in bed than…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 12:28 AM
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You can want honesty and still be hurt/shocked/whatever from it. I mean, if you were dying, would you want your doctor to hide the news from you? Doesn't mean you won't react.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 12:20 AM
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I get your point, but how exactly are you going to manage that? 'Girls, take this X Y Z instruction. Boys... take X'? It's unnecessary to place more burden on one gender. It's just as asinine as the 'boys, we expect you to be the sole breadwinners because that's just the way it is' when it's more than easily possible to have two breadwinners, or have the breadwinner be the woman. It's pragmatic because that's how things are running and men tend to be viewed as aggressive go-getters. It's just ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 12:03 AM
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And at no point is it even a remote possibility that boys and men can learn that they have a 50% say in causing an unintended pregnancy? Most of the guys I grew up with waited until adulthood before having full on, penetrative sex because they were taught that if they knocked a woman up, they were going to bear the consequences (living in a place with no real abortion access, particularly for teens). None of them wanted that responsibility, so they abstained until they got a little older and wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 11:53 PM
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No? I think we have some really reactionary idiots in the party, but let's be real, no group is immune to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 11:18 PM
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I'm a bluepiller by virtue of not being a redpiller. I think I'm both, and I think most people are, too. Most of us have degrees to which we'll be sympathetic/empathetic, and once we reach whatever our particular limit, we'll go more towards 'this is what you need to do to solve the situation.'
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 05:50 PM
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Speaking as a solid 4, which I assume qualifies me: Mostly quiet, now drama-free that I'm no longer speaking to my ex, and allows me to pursue my continuing education and hobbies at my own pace. Which means plenty of times for studying, a decent chunk of time for my games and my books- just picked up Between the Pipes. Most of my friends live out of state (former military brat/DODd here), with one who comes over to hang out a few times a week. It's quiet, I like it, but I'm also somewhat of an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 04:21 PM
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Um, no, I'm not. I specifically pointed out that suicide hotlines are geared towards LGBTQA youth (not women), that workplace safety isn't pushed as a gendered issue (and more to the point, governed by OSHA in the US, which is where I'm assuming you're speaking from and is not a media issue, but a public safety one), that I believed you were conflating homeless shelters with battered wife shelters and that they're not the same thing necessarily, but you're laser targeted on what... breast cancer…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 04:27 AM
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Your point was easily squashed by a little googling; I'm not sure how much of a point it was at all. I'm going to assume that by 'male specific cancer', you're referring to testicular and prostate cancer, and are up in arms about breast cancer (which is not female specific, we just make up the majority of victims due to the fact that we have more tissue on average and the correlation with ovarian cancer). As to why they get more coverage? A) the idiots at Susan G Komen are really good at getting…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 04:12 AM
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Indianapolis Various in and around Jonesboro, Georgia DRMM in Detroit Residental Treatment near San Diego, California Or I'll make it simpler and link you to the Homeless Shelter Directory, where you can peruse at your leisure through hundreds of listings for various groups, including men-only, women-only, and teen only.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 03:48 AM
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Because I find it to be both factually inaccurate and the odd, navel gazing obsession of people bound and determined to be the faulted party.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 02:16 AM
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I don't think any man ever is representative of 'what men think'. Certain trends pop more often that others, but there are enough of you that if I stuck only to stereotypes, I'd be perpetually surprised. I'm starting to seriously wonder if some people just live in the same types of areas their entire lives and presume that's how the world largely works. As for 2... I refer back to my original statement. I think trying to assert that even the general population is overly concerned or thinking abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 10:07 PM
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/shrug Maybe it depends on the woman? Funny thought, I know, but people vary in their motivations even when they all seem to be doing the same thing. Why do people sign up for the military? Is it because they're patriots? Is it because they see no other alternative? Is it for the steady paycheque? Is it because it's a family tradition? Is it to pay for college? Why do people become doctors? Is it to save lives? Is it family pressure? Is it the personal prestige of a phD? Is it for money? I'm not…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 09:49 PM
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It depends. Some guys will just attack any potential weak spot they can think of. You're a pussy/fag/dirty <race> mouth breathing, window licking <long list of stereotypes involving one of the above>. Others genuinely come down with a case of the vapours once they get a whiff of estrogen in the room. Those are the ones that will turn on you the moment they find out you're a woman. How you deal with them versus the others is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 05:14 PM
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It's rarity factor. Blonde and blue-eyed is often held as the pinnacle of female attractiveness (sort of like broad chests and shoulders on men) and so it's attractive. Realistically, gingers would fit in there too but we tend to be more awkward instead, thanks to a few centuries of some terribad misconceptions. Red heads are the niche, blondes are the cultural norm. But of course, all people have their preferences. If the only thing you're worried about is status, blonde haired, blue eyes is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 03:19 PM
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This is one of those bizarrely western centric questions that crop up here. In what sense are we talking here? Overall? Dating? Jobs? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 01:39 PM
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Speaking as the reproductive result of a mixed race marriage, and having (roughly) a metric fuckton of friends and acquaintances who are also the end result, or are in happy mixed relationships... no, not really. Unless they are in the truly insane leftiest of left margins (like those fucking tumblrinas who go on about how any white man who dates outside his race is a fetishist or some other stupid shit), it's really not that big of a deal- race, that is. A combination of bad luck, personal pref…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 01:24 AM
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It might be (and this is solely opinion) that the sex toys argument also exists because of the idea that women have a much harder time reaching orgasm during sex. So the preconception is that the woman is doing for herself what the man could, or would not do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 11:53 PM
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IDK. I'm bluepill here by virtue, more or less, of not being redpill. I don't think bluepill really means much besides 'I disagree with most/all of TRP's fundamental beliefs/their combined worldviews'. Even TRP isn't uniform, I'm not sure why anyone would expect the opposite side to be at all. If it'll untwist panties, I'll put on a bp sigil, but I think that says more about you than me. It's not like it's difficult to differentiate between redpill/non redpill in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 11:37 PM
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No one group realistically portrays another. Is that simpler?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 09:44 PM
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Lol, the ridiculous thing was that he broke up with me (I was a rather impressionable 19 year old at the time), then got super indignant when I didn't chase after him afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 09:27 PM
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No, it wasn't. He worked at a grocery store and played in his band at night/weekends. No shame in that- working is working- but all of his funds were going to pot and his music, and what little he had left over went to the rent. Myself and our roommate had to pick up the tab, including paying between half and 2/3 of what should have been his portion of rent (basically we had to split most of the rent between us). There were about two weeks where we had to choose between paying rent and buying fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 09:11 PM
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Lol, it's probably more along the lines of 50% live moderately, 30% you can push a little one way or another, and 20% you put the pedal to the metal. It's more of 'there's a time and a place' sort of thing. But tunnel visioning too much of your life makes you lose perspective. Like for a budding musician who lives with their gf (cough) it's awesome to practise, to perform live shows, that sort of thing.... but you need to help put food on the table, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 09:06 PM
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+/u/User_Simulator /u/Raiil
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 08:11 PM
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Sure. Passion is easy to get swept away in, and it's amazing to watch someone do what they love. But they can also get into it so much that it destroys every other aspect of their life. Once dated a drummer. I play guitar (badly) so I really respected the effort he put into his craft. It never bothered me when he would practise for hours or dream about being on tours. But he bought into the dream wholesale. There was nothing else in his life- he needed to be a rock star. Even wanted to die (his …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 08:08 PM
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Just personal experience here, but I've found that people in general often don't like when their partners are too emotional or not emotional enough. I'm a cold fish so I swim in cooler waters, and that bothers people, particularly the men I end up dating, as much as if I cried every time I saw something sad on the television. People in general don't like repeated histronics or trying to love unmoving icebergs. The main difference is the tolerance level.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 07:52 PM
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Probably passion. A lot of my exes simply cared deeply about <x>. Unfortunately, that doesn't always carry over well into a relationship. There's also the generic sense of humour, charisma, shared values, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/15 06:37 PM
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Source please. And at 33, I highly doubt I'm going to suddenly 'reform' into a party girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 05:32 PM
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And what special insight does the American man have to the totality of the female demographic? They have some insight to their specific overlapping area (age preferences, what social classes they do and don't mingle in, geography, social/familial observation, etc) when it comes to women. I'd wager some are rather wide-reaching if they move frequently. But I don't find it reasonable or feasible that this is anything but a narrow look at their environment and their choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 12:45 AM
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Apologies for misreading. And no, that is not the totality of current game ecosystem, and no, I am not new to it. As I said, I've been doing it for 20+ years, closer to 30. That's just a snide list of bland, easy soundbites that is not a replacement for the entirety of the gaming demographic, even if we're ignoring whack-a-mole Zynga casuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 12:41 AM
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Lol, those are the only options? Halo bruhs or ten year Olds?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 12:03 AM
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But these lists aren't just based off of the volume of sexuál partners. It's whether they drink, they smoke, where they're tattooed, if they're tattooed, piercings, male to female ratio of friends, if they swear, if they travel. I hit the vast majority of checkmarks, and I have a low partner count and am not interested in riding the carousel at all. I find it amusing because I'm not special and my situation isn't unique, yet we have here such a list of things that is so american-centric and subj…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 12:00 AM
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Already have, on more than one occasion. If I were looking at a marriage situation and the joblessness was looking to be long term (and not on account on some sort of disability that prevented him from working), I'd want proof of fiscal responsibility and acknowledgement that he'd be 'working' at home as part of the partnership. I hate most household chores anyways, so if he wants to stay home and do the dishes and the yardwork, fine by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 08:09 PM
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Speaking as a woman gamer, I'd be more interested and likely to follow if they did follow up studies. I do think that people who generally have more success in life are likely to be happier and not need to shit on other people, and that's not something unique to the gaming community. I've been a gamer for 20+ years, and a human being (so long as I've had my caffeine) for longer. The gaming community is an interesting ecosystem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:28 PM
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I think that there are some others who view men as disposable. Namely the crazy and the ones who don't like competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 12:32 PM
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I'm mixed race, no interest in changing, female.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 11:49 PM
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If you're looking to quantify it, yeah, the long con is worse. It's lying and a decade long manipulation. That doesn't make the first one better or less harmful overall. Do women equate the two scenarios? You'd have to ask all the women in the world to even get an idea. Unsurprisingly, we're all different people. If you want to know what I think other women would say, it would most likely be that in scale of 1-10, the long con is worse, but that's neither an excuse, a reason, or justification to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 02:54 AM
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No worse or no better? Are you asking my opinion? They're both fucking shitty. In the first example, there are better ways to engage your partner for sex- or better yet, find a partner that's more on your sexual level if it's that important (which is obviously YMMV). In the second, lying is shitty but I'm little confused, because is it horrible that she had a lot of partners, or that she lied in order to lull the man into a sense of complacency? High partner count doesn't correlate to lying bitc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 02:04 AM
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Of course there is. Context matters. Why the manipulation is occurring is just as important as how it's occurring.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 01:36 AM
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Mostly amusement, tbh. Maybe accompanied by an eyeroll before something else interesting happens and I go follow that. I generally don't put much stock in absolutist statements, and people/institutions who claim to have found 'the secret'. This is probably just a side-effect of growing up with tons of assumptions made- and outrage manufactured if you broke boundaries of any sort- that I came into contact with once I moved to the US. Life isn't fair, it's not always going to make sense and there'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 12:13 AM
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I had two (now one) massively manipulative women to speak of. I mean, there was petty high school bullshit, but the teachers at my first school had pretty much zero tolerance. One girl tried to pass me a nasty note- the teacher took it, read it, and laughed her ass off. My social level grew a lot that day.... The two actual instigators were my paternal grandmother and currently my aunt (her daughter). My grandmother was a stuck up, racist asshole widow who lived on the constant, non-questioning …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/15 12:05 AM
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And that's your prerogative, as much as it is mine that I find it rather depressing when people are viewed as either mates, rutting material, or invisible. I like people and I like to get to know them, and so I find it off putting when my person gets downgraded to my vagina and whether they want it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 12:34 AM
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I don't think sexual objectification will ever truly go away. I also think people are going to look, and that's natural. What I do think is that it's possible to be aware and appreciate another human's physical appearance without reducing them to nothing more than a potential fuck on two legs. Therein lies the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 11:57 PM
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I personally don't give a shit about most preferences; I draw the line at obvious abuse (pedophilia, etc). My main issue as the neighbourhood feminist screecher is the insistence that a) 'all/most x are y' and b) 'x that does not fall into my preferences is unilaterally a terribad thing'. I dislike manipulation, particularly the lengths some people will go, and as a general rule I don't like the sweeping statements a lot of folks get caught up in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 03:55 AM
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My experience generally is finding out they want something I'm not interested in giving and doing my best to Gtfo. I've gotten 'why aren't you interested in me/why don't you talk to me?!' whining most of the time. Usually I just avoid them; I think I've only lost my shit once and that's after they backed me into a corner. This was all in my teens/early twenties. I still don't know what I did to get their attention other than being a vagina bearer in their general vicinity and talk to them; I've …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 07:22 PM
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And I don't care if you don't care. The physical aspect of rape is only one component of the long term effects, not all pedos go for full penetration, and it's not the thing that has the longest repercussions. The body heals faster than the mind. Stop trivialising the shame, confusion and pain of some survivors because they werent hurt physically enough. Trying to start the pain Olympics validates no part of your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 01:31 AM
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This is the dumbest thing I've read in a while, and I'm a female survivor of childhood sexual assault. The physical pain is only a component of it, and not the worst. Let's not turn this into the pain olympics over who has it worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/15 01:24 AM
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BP woman. I've dated guys shorter than I am, and would do so again if I found a great guy. Fwiw, I'm a smidge taller than the average woman in the US, and I have no idea if that skews the data. Eta: percentage wise? About half were my height or within 2 inches of my height (in both directions), the rest taller by at least three inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 06:15 PM
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With what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 05:17 PM
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Dude, I'm a flaming rabid feminist. That doesn't mean shutting down the discussion. You can't destroy ideas. I reject Trp philosophy, but that doesn't necessitate trying to sweep them under the rug. And civilised societies are able to debate rather than ban every thing that makes them angry. If you dislike trp, try changing things around you. Disenfranchising people dont disappear, they regroup and then it's harder to see what they're up to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 04:40 PM
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Who says we can't be cunts? As for identity issues, myself and the mixed race kids (now adults) I grew up with usually have that shit sorted by high school. I went through a lot of insecurity because I was a ginger in my childhood/teens and that's very unusual, but I got over that too. By the time we graduate, most of us didn't give a fuck about what people thought about us being mixed, and if a person wanted to be a simple minded moron who couldn't stop being an idiot about how unusual or ~exot…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 03:04 PM
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Reasonably intelligent, and if we don't share a particular interest, then at least don't be an arse about it. In general people who can do things that I can't interest me, romantically or platonically. Patience is a must; paternalism is not. Racism can't be tolerated (I'm mixed race, so you can see why it might be a problem Lol). Passion for what he cares about. Guys with active hobbies are awesome. Guys who can entertain themselves are too. Value sharing, to a point, is important. I don't requi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/15 11:05 AM
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I'll be the first to say that I only have passing knowledge of most machinery and am not overly excited to learn about it, but I know very few women who aren't into computers/general electronic related tech. I think some people are and some people aren't. I'm much more knowledgeable around computer software/net based stuff than any of my uncles and have been the same around most of my exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 03:06 PM
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I find intelligence to be attractive. I also find green eyes attractive, but I'm not going to go for broke if I meet a guy with green eyes. It's one potential thing to look for in a possible partner; it's not a guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 05:36 AM
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This sub is for debate between RP, BP, and others. I'm BP, which means (I assume) that the question towards me me is if I'm willing to have my opinions changed by TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 01:02 AM
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Yes it is :P
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/15 12:50 AM
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I don't see why. We usually keep our pitchforks inside our own little community and aside from occasional accusations of brigading on both sides, I think the community polices itself fairly well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 11:32 PM
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I still don't agree with them on most fundamental stuff, but seeing the trp community as a demographic with some wide-ranging opinions is really enlightening (in a good way).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 09:07 PM
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It was my understanding that Rp generally states that being a doormat is beta. Is that correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 05:55 PM
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What she finds fulfilling. I think one of the biggest problems we face as a society, beyond genders, is a) figuring that out and b) understanding what we stand to gain and lose from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 03:50 PM
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Bitter about what? I've lost a lot of idealism, granted, but I get angry/bitter/rageful over specific events, not my lot in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 06:02 PM
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I believe that they believe, and I do think that most deserve to be read and stored for information. Granted I just about never agree with RP, but it's not necessary for me to do so. Aside from bs like 'I got like ten bitches who wanna ride my dick Lol #spinningplates' even things that come off as exaggerations probably have a kernel of frustrated truth in there that should be addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 05:58 PM
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Sanders annoys me the least, guess I'm going for that. I'm very liberal and would love to see a woman in the WH one day... just not Hillary.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 04:48 AM
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Do I trust them? Do I generally agree with them? Do I think they'll do their best to follow through? If yes, they have my vote, and I'm not particularly concerned about their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 06:38 PM
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First of all, you get that "hypergamous" and "greedy bitch" are completely separate, right? One does not necessarily mean the other. My wife, for example, is pretty classically hypergamous (as both she and I would say all women are); she is not, however, a "greedy bitch." A pain in the ass sometimes, yes, but not greedy bitch. She's concerned about the welfare of her family and her children. That doesn't make her greedy. There's a reason why I had both there, not one or the other. Hypergamy is o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/15 02:07 AM
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Well yeah, no shit. Would you enjoy going without running water and electricity? I've lived without both, 0/10 I enjoy modern amenities too much to go through that again. Most Westerners don't know how good they have it. There's this whole oversimplification where 'not wanting to live poor as fuck' translates to 'greedy, hypergamous bitch'. Would I want any guy I date to pull his weight and help pay for stuff? Yeah. I don't personally require them to earn more than I do, I just wouldn't want the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 10:56 PM
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For me? No. I've never dated a guy who made more than I did, and won't leave one for money. For other women? Depends on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 10:13 PM
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Fine. For humans, are sexual attraction and non-visual preferences distinct? Yes, of course. One is primal/visceral, one is not. The difference, between all people, is the importance at any given point in time and mindset. If a woman is in the mood to bone a hot man, she's probably not going to care whether he can quote Nietzsche or not. If a woman is looking for something a little more longterm, she's probably going to care more about things like his personality, if their goals match, lifestyle…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 09:59 PM
1

For humans, are sexual attraction and non-visual preferences distinct? Yes, of course. One is primal/visceral, one is not. The difference, between all people, is the importance at any given point in time and mindset. If a dude is in the mood to bone a hot lady, he's probably not going to care if she can quote Nietzsche or not. If a dude is looking for something a little more longterm, he's probably going to care more about things like her personality, if their goals match, lifestyle options, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 09:51 PM
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Sometimes enlightenment, sometimes bemusement, often amusement. Debating is my family's past time, so arguing is fun to read and participate in. I'm somewhere between purple and blue, so obviously terp-mindset isn't my thing, but it's interesting nonetheless. And they're generally more fun to debate than my dad's side of the family, too. Also, it's a debate forum. No shit people come here to argue, it's right there in the name.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/15 07:30 PM
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Speaking as someone who dislikes TRP, I wouldn't call it a cult. Lacks too much of the trappings and it's not organised to 'demand' anything of its followers. Rather, TRP is like the extreme end of any sort of philosophical/religious belief system. It proposes over-simplified 'truths' that tell those who buy into it that they're fundamentally good people, somehow above others because they've seen the TRP version of the light, and act above mundane societal/legal standards for better or worse. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 10:31 PM
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I've been a gamer since I was six and my dad fed a quarter into some neo-geo flight simulator for me. Like any hobby, it can be isolating, addicting, and compound bad habits. I game a lot, but I also never miss work because of them, and I budget games depending on my avaliable cash. Generally I play Wow and rotate through non-mmos consistently. 90% of the guys I've played with that knew I was a woman didn't give a shit, around 7% regularly asked me for girl advice, and the remaining 3% were toxi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 05:21 AM
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Chaos, blood in the streets, the world going to hell in a handbasket. Same thing predicted in every generation. Realistically, imo, shit will calm down and we'll reach equilibrium. Social upheaval takes a while to not be kneejerky.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/15 05:08 AM
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Right, so let's see that then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 10:45 AM
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Nice, sweet guys didn't work for me. Rude, pushy assholes didn't work for me. Generally decent, has bad days sometimes but works hard, accepts support and is supportive, puts up with my cranky moments as much as I put up with his works for me. I suspect it's like this for a lot of people, but that's just personal observation. I like people willing to debate me, who might shake their head if I buy something stupidly nerdy or make fun of me when I do a victory dance over downing a raid boss, but w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 02:22 AM
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Whoever asked, imo. But the other party should always be prepared to split the bill, and should ask. I prefer to pay my own way, but to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 02:12 AM
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Let’s look at a fairly typical American girl She’s brought up in a mainline Protestant Christian tradition. Her parents divorced when she was around 14. She has a decent but not great relationship with both of them. She has been told all her life how special she is and that she is exactly equal to any boy or man; the only difference between them being their genitalia. She’s about a 6 in attractiveness. I'd like to see where this comes from, if it comes from somewhere besides OP's opinion. Nonwit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/15 02:07 AM
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Okay. So where's this sample/report and where can I see the statistics?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/15 06:51 PM
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That we can be attractive and attract is certainly fact. What attracts us is the difference I'm talking about. Unless you're arguing that men are an actual hivemind with identical personal preferences. I'm talking about being an ass man versus a leg man versus a boob man, not whether heterosexual men are attracted to the female form. Eta: a word
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 05:45 PM
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That's kind of my point- attractive is very subjective and what one dude wants, another needs and the next guy wouldn't notice if she was stark naked and handing them winning lottery tickets. I know that I'm very plain and probably below a six to most of the guts here, yet there have been sober men who found me attractive for reasons other guys aren't going to be care about. There's an awful amount of assumptions to use as a baseline for the 'average' American girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 05:02 PM
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Tbh I'm more interested in where this person is pulling their stats. There's assumptions lathered unverified numbers coupled with opinions (what is a six in attractiveness? Is there some universal baseline inherent in all men I'm not aware of?), etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 04:44 PM
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I think that if you truly believe that you've got that firm of a grip on the reality of the entire world, your world isn't nearly as big or varied as you think it is. Humans tend to look at their immediate environments, draw conclusions after a while, and try to brute force their scope on an international scale. It tends not to end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/15 05:48 AM
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Do you really think that all women and all men worldwide act relatively the same regardless of cultural differences?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 07:04 PM
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You'd be mistaken. If I think of 'special snowflake' in a non-sarcastic sense, that's something I'd ascribe to the da Vinci's of the world, not the average Joe or Jane. What makes us complicated isn't that we're too difficult to understand at first glance, only that what drives individual traits about us is too varied and/or wide-ranging. What's a good way to make a good first impression? Make them laugh. How do you make them laugh? That's the stickler, not making them laugh. Laugh at amusing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 04:44 PM
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And you can be prejudiced if you so choose, as I have zero control over your actions and wouldn't control you in any case, I simply think it's a mistake to think that people in general are so simple that you can reasonably assume their positions and reactions in advance with something so singular as gender alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 04:34 PM
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It doesn't matter who set it, but it matter when it comes to assumptions about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 04:32 PM
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the aim is to skew the odds in your own favour as much as possible? This part, definitely. That's just human nature at work. Or nature in general, really, since we see the same behaviour in many animals. there is always some variance This part, no. I'm gonna be honest, one of the things that annoys me about TRP is that there's this mindset that they have all people pegged easily. I think that's not only unfair, it's unreasonable and way too simplistic. This has been an ongoing issue in my life; …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 02:47 AM
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Oh, I think you did an excellent job with your analogy, don't get me wrong. Very clear and concise without being, well, patronising. It's just that I don't agree. Humans aren't boxes with pre-defined buttons, and a lot of what bothers me about TRP is the idea that X always works on Y. I think the vast majority of us are far too complicated, and I may also be a little grumpy about it because people get angry when they try 'the predefined way' and then get angry at you when you don't react the way…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 01:49 AM
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Uh, no they're not. The common denominator is racist/cultural hatred is ignorance. No, in your OP, you asked why there is so little sympathy. People have answered, and you got uptight really fast at the answers and keep pushing at some vague concept that either there's something we don't get or we're just being close minded about so-called betas, when instead you got clarification on 'perpetual singles' and some pretty easy to understand reasons why people on both sides of the aisle have little …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/15 01:17 AM
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And here's where I think TRP is wrong: Not all boxes are the same, just as not all people pressing the buttons are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 11:12 PM
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Uh, was I arguing you were wrong? In my experience means in my experience. I highly doubt we've lived similar lives, at the same place, in the same locations with the same sorts of people. Our outlooks will most likely be different. It's not a matter of 'choosing to pretending that it's that simple'. There are a lot of us single people in the world, and all of us are flawed. Some are the perpetual single, which (as I've already noted) are the whingers who absolutely refuse to work on themselves …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 11:02 PM
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Uh, no. You're asking for evidence of... something, after you asked for our opinions, which I'm giving you. In my personal experience, the perpetual single- which I even gave you a pretty narrow definition for- generally has problems with themselves that could be fixed to make them more attractive to whomever they're trying to attract. I explicitly said that a) I'm referring to both genders (and in fact, the most egregious case I know of this is my aunt) and b) this is not a statement on single …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:18 PM
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Of course they do, and in that case, both parties can decide whether they want to work with how things are or abandon ship. But if I get married to a man and he understands that sex on a semi-frequent basis is important to me, and then two years down the road decides that meh, he can't be fussed, he loses the right to act surprised if I either go out and get toys to help myself, or I decide I don't want to be someone who refuses to give me affection in a form that I require at least somewhat reg…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:36 PM
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Um, what, did you need names, numbers, birth certificates?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 09:01 PM
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No, I do find that- and it's my findings, and you'll note that I'm not trying to posit it as concrete scientific fact. I'm not talking about people who are single, or even people who tend to be single for long periods of time. I'm both of those things, but I'm also not active in dating by choice, and am comfortable not being in a relationship. The perpetual single is someone whose entire existence seems to resolve around the fact that they're single. They'll bemoan that they're single, they'll c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 07:16 PM
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No. It's not a big deal if they want the roles they and their partner play to be different but complementary. One of the reasons why my parents liked each other is because they're both a bit old fashioned, if not terribly, and they wanted the traditional nuclear family. But my dad never gave my mom shit for not having a career, and after raising all four of us kids, has offered repeatedly to completely finance my mother going back to college, if she so chose. Conversely, my mother doesn't tear m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 07:08 PM
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I think that as long as you're not being a blatant hypocrite, and not being a total jackass about it, it's fine. It's fine to have preferences, it only get scummy when you decide to be scummy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 10:51 AM
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Woman, yes, and this is why it's important to have a talk about it before taking the plunge.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 08:21 AM
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I have plenty of sympathy for the loveless, as it were. Being alone is painful for a lot of people. My sympathy evaporates (for both genders) when they start to whine incessantly about it like they're owed things. I'm single, and that's not an inherently bad thing. There are things I could do to make myself more attractive/enticing/whatever to men, but I don't feel like doing those things, and I don't care if that means I'm perpetually single, because my personal value doesn't come from having s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/15 04:07 AM
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