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Having a preference is different from degrading people who don't meet your preferences. The body positivity movement often centers itself around empowering overweight women first and foremost, but mocking men for their weight, height, or penis size is still seen as broadly acceptable (despite height and penis size not being able to be changed). A pretty apt comparison would be a man mocking the size of the breasts on a nude female statue, though what would be more directly comparable is probably…
/r/MensRights05/07/26 02:07 AM
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I always love the "it's not bodyshaming; it's a joke" juxtaposed with "if you are offended then your penis is small". It's always the ones who say something like this isn't bodyshaming who then go on to openly perpetuate bodyshaming, and the fact that they're so comfortable doing so is proof that it is considered way too acceptable. Reminds me of when AOC mocked Stephen Miller's height (when there are IMO a million other things to mock him for that wouldn't be problematic, but she apparently saw…
/r/MensRights05/07/26 02:00 AM
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It's most certainly not a problem at all to them if it's racist, even if they're currently in denial about it. Their justification of hatred towards men will inherently disproportionately harm men from other disenfranchised groups, which is known as intersectionality. "Intersectionality" is treated like some poisonous word in communities like this because it's so often used ideologically instead of statistically, but actual statistics do show that intersectionality pretty perfectly predicts why …
/r/MensRights21/05/26 09:50 PM
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The "be open-minded" argument... for justifying literal close-minded bigotry... is certainly one of the arguments of all time.
/r/MensRights21/05/26 09:41 PM
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You are judging a person based on a negative view of their type. This is called bigotry. I think you need to reread this again. Just like how it's unacceptable to be sexist against women, it's also unacceptable to be sexist against men. Nobody is better or worse based on their biological sex, as they can't choose their biological sex.
/r/MensRights21/05/26 09:40 PM
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People on both major sides really going out of their way to call Fetterman slow or brain-damaged for a very basic take that the Democratic Party really needs to hear, one side because he acknowledged an important problem they don't want to acknowledge and the other because he, despite acknowledging that the problem has been present for a good while, also acknowledges that it will keep getting worse if nothing is done about it.
/r/MensRights11/05/26 08:35 PM
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I don't like the term "toxic feminity" for the same reason I don't like "toxic masculinity". If someone is being toxic, call them toxic. If they're being toxic because of sexism, call them sexist.
/r/MensRights22/04/26 05:25 PM
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In all fairness, some do very clearly say "all men", but the point does stand that generalizing people based on sex, race, or anything else they can't control is wrong.
/r/MensRights22/04/26 05:24 PM
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You generalized an entire group of people based on sex. Your actions are exactly like those of feminists who generalize men and then mock people who say "not so men" or get offended for generalizing a group united by immutable characteristics. And your anecdotes are not enough to say it's a majority either. The mistreatment you've described sounds like a serious issue, but many of us are here because of the harm the has been done to us from people grouping all men together or generalizing us in …
/r/MensRights22/04/26 05:23 PM
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For the same reason it's wrong for people to say they feel unsafe at night because of black people. Hell, even your "men are attacking men" argument is just a reworded version of "black on black crime". The race or sex of the offender says nothing about the validity of the victim's victimhood, and there's never a valid reason to fear or blame someone of one race or sex because of the actions of someone sharing those immutable characteristics. In both cases, statistics are also likely skewed, as …
/r/MensRights27/03/26 06:28 PM
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As a leftist, I would say one of the actual issues is that so much of the left eats this slop up (even if I agree it's antithetical to many of what I'd consider core leftist ideals), essentially embracing a lot of the worst qualities of the right. I wouldn't say it's the doing of some "patriarchy" though but rather just the elite classes in general, who don't actually care about gender or racial or whatever attitudes of any kind, only about sowing division to keeps the poor poor while making the…
/r/MensRights12/02/26 09:33 PM
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Men report being lonely at the same rates that women do, but studies also show that lonely men are much less likely to self-report their loneliness than women are, hence why it's such a big deal that many studies show men self-reporting loneliness at similar or sometimes even higher rates than women. But, no matter how skewed things are, many of the same people who hate men's issues being brought up when women's issues are being discussed will outright admit that they don't care about men's lone…
/r/MensRights12/02/26 09:31 PM
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Oh please, I'm defending normal people instead of engaging in that gender war nonsense. That's not fighting my enemies with a flower; it's just refusing to aim a tank at innocent parties. What I'm here here for is equality, so people like you who fight against equality are just as much the adversary no matter which side they're on.
/r/MensRights08/02/26 12:40 PM
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No, I won't "shut". This sub outright states it's partially about social equality for men and boys and bans misogyny and misandry. Being misogynistic is just as bad as being misandrist, and let's not act like crazy people on both sides who advocate for violence. I'm just as mad as any normal person should be that violence against men is often accepted, minimized, or even outright mocked by surprisingly large parts of the feminist movement, but that's exactly why I call out the sexist behavior th…
/r/MensRights08/02/26 12:27 PM
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Calling men "males" makes you sound like an incel too, you know. Plenty of people here aren't incels and simply want equality for themselves and men/boys in their lives, even if there is an unfortunate amount of misogyny in this sub as of late. Even so, that doesn't think justify your misandry either.
/r/MensRights08/02/26 04:17 AM
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Sad you're being downvoted for such a basic and well-adjusted sentiment. It seems that, as time has gone on, more and more people on this sub have gone from wanting to fight sexism to just engaging in their own brand of sexism, actually very similar to what happened to a lot of the feminist movement. Funny then that the people who act just like the feminists that drove many of us to communities like this will then call those of us who don't like that kind of behavior feminists for not tolerating…
/r/MensRights08/02/26 04:16 AM
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You've got to be joking. Andrew Tate and Nick Fuentes of all people are your representation of men in general? You really are just like a radical feminist.
/r/MensRights10/01/26 03:58 PM
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I've made it clear that I agree that there is major misandry both culturally and institutionally, something that is enough to get me considered an "incel" by plenty of people for merely acknowledging a statistically backed reality, and you seriously don't think I'm an advocate for men's rights because I don't want to fight sexism with sexism, the same thing that made the broader feminist movement so toxic?
/r/MensRights10/01/26 01:24 PM
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Interesting that the person who hates women for not finding them attractive on dating apps immediately tries to paint the person giving actual advice against the use of dating apps as the one complaining about dating.
/r/MensRights10/01/26 01:21 PM
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What, should I shave my beard and put on a dress to make you happy? I think like a normal person; you're the one who sounds exactly like a radical feminist, the same archetype you've attributed to the majority of women. If you wanna go have your little "war" against women, then go off. I'll continue being a normal person, so I'll know that, when I'm treated worse than a normal woman, it's because of actual sexism. When you're treated worse than a normal woman, you'll never know if it's because o…
/r/MensRights10/01/26 03:26 AM
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Did you mean to reply to my comment where I was arguing against the person who came onto this sub to troll, or are you saying I'm a woman (which I'm not) who came onto this sub to troll (when I'm actually agreeing that misandry is a massive cultural phenomenon).
/r/MensRights10/01/26 03:14 AM
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You're talking about dating apps, services for people who usually aren't dating traditionally, often overrun by hookup culture. These applications inherently reduce a person down to just numbers, height, weight, income, etc., as the human, in-person aspect has been almost (if not) entirely stripped away. Trust me, I'm 5'5, which isn't just a "dealbreaker" on many dating apps but a quality that is outright mocked by all sides of the political spectrum, even many who are otherwise adamantly agains…
/r/MensRights10/01/26 03:12 AM
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There definitely are plenty of cases of women assuming men are into them for the slightest reasons just like there are plenty of cases of men assuming women are into them for the slightest reasons, with it just usually being seen as creepy for a man to have an unreciprocated interest in women whereas a woman can often get away with being actually creepy towards a man before things are broadly considered creepy. Still, you're completely right that OP is engaging in terminally online gender war no…
/r/MensRights10/01/26 02:52 AM
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No, treat both men and women like people, and expect to be treated like a person by both men and women. If a woman is being misandrist, treat her the same way you'd treat a man who's being misogynist. Once you start treating people worse based on your preconceived notions of their immutable characteristics, you inherently open yourself up to being treated worse, and not unjustifiably so. Don't get me wrong; I've seen the double standards that are expected to be upheld in women's favor my entire …
/r/MensRights10/01/26 02:50 AM
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I think this "gender war" nonsense is getting old. No, the majority of women don't dislike men. That's not to say there isn't a massive amount of misandry baked into our culture and society, which both men and women often participate in, but the average man is really no different than the average woman, someone who casually and healthily interacts with people of the same and opposite sex without any pronounced vitriol. I get that it can feel like men are universally hated because of the combinat…
/r/MensRights10/01/26 02:43 AM
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I came here to say "the majority of women don't dislike men, even if there are misandrist cultural elements that are commonly held in our culture", and here you are just outright saying that women actually are right to dislike men because men hate women (which also isn't true). No, nobody is right to dislike anyone else due to their immutable characteristics, and just because bad men exist doesn't mean that men in general are bad, just like there being bad women doesn't mean women in general are…
/r/MensRights10/01/26 02:37 AM
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Exactly, it's basically exactly parallel to the feminist rhetoric of celebrating college demographics being majority female as "equality". Many of us are here because such rhetoric is so prominent both culturally and systemically, so just flipping things around doesn't fix the problem; it only perpetuates it. I guess one can argue that at least OP wants to "fix" the problem of that inequality (whereas you'd almost never see someone congratulate women for outnumbering men in higher education and …
/r/MensRights07/01/26 10:02 PM
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A major problem with all studies like this is that they largely rely on self-reporting, meaning that, if a group of people has consistently been taught to hide and minimize their emotions, never learning the ability to truly consider them in a healthy way, they, despite especially needing support, will always be underrepresented in surface-level attempts at gauging who needs support. Personally, I don't think the way boys have been treated in the education system can be remotely justified by "bo…
/r/MensRights07/01/26 09:48 PM
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That's why I said "usually". There are a lot of reasons why someone would be unable to gain or lose weight, and I've known people who had a lot of trouble exercising due to things like physical disabilities, but do notice how all of that stuff can already fall under the "ability" umbrella, so having an entire separate category for "body size" that only encompasses something which most people can change as opposed to that which most people can't and yet are still harshly judged for just feels lik…
/r/MensRights30/12/25 10:19 PM
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Interesting how "body size" focuses on weight, something that you can usually change, as opposed to height, something you most certainly cannot change after you're done growing (unless you get that insane procedure where they break both your legs). There are a ton of problems with this model of "oppression", but I find it interesting how they just outright ignored an issue that affects men more often (though it most certainly affects women too) in favor of one that affects women more often (and …
/r/MensRights30/12/25 08:28 PM
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According to what, the same justice system that is more likely to convict men and more harshly based on them being men? Can any statistics based on who is guilty be accurate under a system that already has shown it treats people more harshly based on factors external to the alleged crime itself, that innocent until proven guilty is subservient to harmful stereotypes? And why do you continue to use ideology that inherently perpetuates not only sexism but also racism? And why should one man receiv…
/r/MensRights21/11/25 01:37 PM
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The law already has the framework to punish those who commit worse actions or are repeat offenders more harshly. Why exactly does it also need to discriminate based on immutable characteristics? And how do you deal with the fact that your rhetoric is not only the same as that used for racial discrimination but also that it directly contributes to racial discrimination? After all, black men are at the intersection of the most disadvantaged race and the most disadvantaged sex in the justice system…
/r/MensRights21/11/25 12:54 PM
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We can look at all the statistics showing that a gender gap exists and is actively growing in education, that changes are being implemented that put men and boys at significant disadvantage, or we can just take your word that the modern education system was made by men for men, that women are just better for some reason. Reminder that many of us grew up in a time when gender equality was an extremely big deal. While you are, for some reason, painting men as a monolith who suddenly have decided t…
/r/MensRights21/11/25 01:38 AM
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Could you explain how the "context" justifies systemic discrimination?
/r/MensRights21/11/25 01:30 AM
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So you admit that everything they said is true, but you're saying it's justified? That men should be collectively held to a higher standard than women? Why do you think so lowly of women?
/r/MensRights20/11/25 08:31 PM
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I don't like the idea of affirmative action either, but the fact that it was being used as a band-aid in your circumstance doesn't mean that there isn't indeed a flawed system at play. Affirmative action is an improper and unjustified manner of addressing what may very well be real systemic inequality, with focus in the scenario you described being better lent to addressing the inequalities in the education system that led to boys receiving lower grades in the first place rather than just loweri…
/r/MensRights20/11/25 08:29 PM
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I've seen some feminists who do care for men's issues without trying to fit those issues into the misandrist framework that feminism so often uses, so you can still be a feminist even if you don't align with these types of people if that's how you wish to identify yourself. Still, it's telling that, despite the common argument that "feminism is for men too" being used to downplay the misandry in the feminist movement and the need for men's issues to be discussed, the largest feminist communities…
/r/MensRights11/11/25 07:11 PM
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So you call someone a slur based on their height, call men offended by heightism "you boys" in a demeaning way, insist that short people who "cling to power" do so because of their height, and yet still insist that it's men's fault if they take offense because "it has nothing to do with height"...
/r/MensRights07/10/25 08:31 AM
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Believe it or not, short people are not in fact all Stephen Miller.
/r/MensRights07/10/25 08:26 AM
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This is the same disgusting rhetoric used to justify "small dick energy". "No, I'm not body shaming you because I'm not actually commenting on your body! I'm just saying that a notable group of people with that body trait fit into a stereotype and that you do too!"
/r/MensRights07/10/25 08:25 AM
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So she has the right to clap back against a completely unrelated group of people?
/r/MensRights07/10/25 08:20 AM
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And both sides are guilty of asking this question in a way that makes it seem like some incomprehensible thing, acting like women are uniquely either able or unable to engage in evil actions for their own gain. People lie or just get the information of crimes wrong all the time, and wrongful convictions are much too common in general. It's human nature to lie, and, even though the average person isn't inherently evil (and I'd say is more likely to be good than bad), society is full of enough mor…
/r/MensRights04/10/25 04:29 PM
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Disregarding victims based on their immutable characteristics in relation to that of their victimizer is definitely victim blaming. It is actually quite often discussed in communities focusing on men's rights, again because of how often "by other men" is used as an argument. Edit: it's actually discussed quite well here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/q7lvsd/why_is_but_men_are_the_majority_of_perpetrators/
/r/MensRights07/08/25 01:30 PM
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I don't think this argument holds great ground, however, as it comes off as a form of victim blaming, just like when people respond to the fact that men tend to be victimized at higher rates in regards to violent crimes by saying that men are also more likely to be the ones engaging in those violent crimes. What that idea does prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, however, is that it's not the opposite sex in general to blame (though blaming the same sex is also wrong), and that is most definitely r…
/r/MensRights07/08/25 12:45 AM
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"Until it changes" while you engage in the exact behavior contrary to change. Be the change you want to see, and, if you don't want such generalizations of men and women to be challenged, why are you here? It's one thing to pose a hypothetical generalization of women to point out the hypocrisy of someone's generalization of men, but here you are eating up the worst of feminist rhetoric. Be less like the worst feminist and more like someone who actually cares about gender equality.
/r/MensRights17/07/25 08:03 PM
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Ya, and people who talk about "men" tend not to say "all men" unless they're really brazen, but we still say "not all men" because their harmful generalizations of billions of people based on immutable characteristics need to be challenged. If someone takes offense to "not all men" OR "not all women" in such situations, the issue is with them.
/r/MensRights17/07/25 08:00 PM
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You're literally using the same exact toxic rhetoric defended by so many feminists, just with the genders swapped. Your actions are no better than theirs, and you shouldn't be here if you're gonna act like them.
/r/MensRights17/07/25 07:59 PM
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You didn't do anything wrong. I have no idea what their problem is, and I suspect there is no rational answer to that question.
/r/MensRights04/07/25 02:43 PM
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This is a community about a cause; one can support the cause in a multitude of ways without being male. It also just so happens that said cause is supposed to be about fighting against sexism, while you're currently fighting for sexism. You're literally falling into the same trap many of the worst feminists do, so maybe you're the one who should be "getting out" if anyone should be.
/r/MensRights04/07/25 02:39 PM
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Fair enough I guess; I simply didn't see what they were saying as implying that. I will cross the street simply so as to not collide with someone else or force either of us nearer to where cars pass should there not be an available sidewalk, but I won't do that in the presence of a sidewalk since that is a dedicated public walking space which I am using as it is to be used. I do try to at least be cordial when going passing someone going either direction, but also them being slower than me or go…
/r/MensRights03/07/25 06:37 PM
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But the person you first replied to didn't do anything to defy this logic, so I have to ask why you replied to them the way you did. They made it clear that the situation they stated is in regard to the expectation to care and protect someone based on that person's own prejudices and nothing else. It might make racists and sexists happy if a brown man is going out of their way to show they're safe "despite" their immutable characteristics, but it also reinforces racism and sexism by reinforcing …
/r/MensRights03/07/25 06:27 PM
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I never said that it was a sign of racism or sexism. Being uneasy around strangers is fine, and giving people space to show them you're safe is also fine. However, acting like someone of a certain race or sex needs to do more than someone of any other is not fine, nor is it fine to act like someone of a certain race or sex deserves more special treatment than someone of any other. So I'm not gonna do anything to make someone feel unsafe, and I actively try to ensure that my behavior is not that …
/r/MensRights03/07/25 06:03 PM
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The rules of social decorum are already being forfeited by the person who is racist or sexist. Merely not going out of your way to accommodate the bigotries of others does not mean that you yourself are forfeiting social decorum. As long as you are acting a way that would be expected of someone regardless of their immutable characteristics, it's not your fault if someone decides that your immutable characteristics decide you need to be held to a higher standard.
/r/MensRights03/07/25 05:33 PM
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The big thing is that there is a standard level of reasonable social expectation that one should not do something to make the environment they're in feel or be unsafe, but there's also a reasonable social expectation (that is often disregarded) that one should not treat people differently based on their immutable characteristics. Someone merely being a man, non-white, disabled, and so on are not valid reasons for someone else to reasonably feel unsafe, and someone should not have to act differen…
/r/MensRights03/07/25 05:30 PM
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The funny thing is that you're clearly doing this to get under people's skin, going out of your way to be so inflammatory that you admit that men face systemic discrimination but go out of your way to minimize and justify that discrimination, but what you don't seem to realize is that we've all dealt with this treatment plenty of times before. No matter how much hate and sexism you spread, all we'll ever see is a sad person treating us how we're used to being treated for their own narcissistic p…
/r/MensRights03/06/25 11:42 PM
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I'm sure it's easy to "move on" so quickly when you're privileged enough to not have to care about these things :)
/r/MensRights03/06/25 10:47 PM
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Okay, let's start from the beginning. This is a post highlighting the double standard in regards to reproductive and bodily autonomy both legally and culturally. There is no shade or accusation thrown towards women, either any one woman or women in general; they simply asked why women have this privilege over men. You responded to this with a single sentence: "It was men who made that rule, not women" This obviously isn't an answer to the question, as "who made the rule" had absolutely nothing t…
/r/MensRights03/06/25 08:37 PM
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You're responding to privileges that women had and still have over men with privileges that men used to have over women. Let's not pretend that the men in power didn't have mothers, wives, and daughters, nor that the majority did nothing to act in what they believed was the best interest of the women in their lives. If you're apparently so against all these rules and practices made "by men and men alone", why are you throwing whataboutisms as a tactic to delegitimize the struggles those rules an…
/r/MensRights03/06/25 06:51 PM
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Was the Transatlantic Slave Trade not a gross violation of human rights because it was primarily Africans that sold other Africans? Nobody here who's worth listening to will tell you to blame women, but here you are blaming men. And so what if it was men who made the rule? Men aren't a monolith, and it's not like there's some ancestral predisposition on who's a man and who's a woman, and our cultural norms actually show a significant in-group bias amongst women, not amongst men. If you want to b…
/r/MensRights03/06/25 06:46 PM
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Let's maybe not go with such sweeping and harmful generalizations. While it is true that women are more likely to use suicide attempts as a cry for help while men are more likely to resort to a Serious Suicide Attempt, a call for help does not make one a "drama queen" or inherently "attention seeking", nor is that "in women's nature". Instead, the fact that women are more likely to use a cry for help over a Serious Suicide Attempt is because they are more likely to believe that they can receive …
/r/MensRights09/03/25 04:50 PM
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And the attacker will have had a lot longer to get into an elevated state, meaning your adrenaline is unlikely to help you more than theirs is helping them.
/r/MensRights02/12/24 04:45 PM
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And so is it not possible that Koss's study knowingly excluded it given her history of denying male rape? It is completely possible, and the vagueness of the definition can support either viewpoint. That combined with the fact that there are so many other legal and social hurdles that men face mean that a rape-denier such as Koss could easily exclude male victims and would have reason to be assumed to have done such. My main point is that the law tends to be relatively particular, so that defini…
/r/MensRights21/11/24 05:27 AM
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While the interpretation that the victim is the one being penetrated seems to be what the definition suggests, such an interpretation is stated nowhere explicitly. "Another person" is vague enough that it could reference the aggressor or the victim. Such wording does not inherently insist the "penetrator's" otherness to the victim and can rather be to the one who is penetrated, and the one who is penetrated is referred to neither as the victim nor the aggressor.
/r/MensRights21/11/24 05:10 AM
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As I have repeated multiple times, none of that definition explicitly disqualifies made-to-penetrate as legally recognized rape. The victim in the case of made-to-penetrate would be the man, so it would be the penetration of a (woman's) vagina by a sex organ of another person (a man) without the consent of the victim (said man). The data is skewed because of other legal and social double standards against men which I mentioned, with the definition not helping due to its ambiguity on who the "oth…
/r/MensRights21/11/24 04:42 AM
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The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim. If a man is forced to penetrate a woman's vagina without his consent, then that counts as the penetration of a vagina by the sex organ of another person without the victim's consent. The definition does not anywhere inherently state that the "another person" cannot be the victim, and I would sooner interpret "another p…
/r/MensRights20/11/24 08:37 PM
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To be fair, the FBI definition does include victims of made-to-penetrate, as the wording doesn't tie victimhood to being penetrated but merely to being in a situation where penetration happens without the consent of one of the parties. That definition is, however, still missing some important ways men can be raped. Mainly, it makes it so that a man can only be raped if he is forced to give oral, penetrated anally, or forced to penetrate a vagina, anus, or mouth. This specifically excludes the ab…
/r/MensRights20/11/24 08:15 PM
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The whole "house burned down" thing was just a joke someone said so that they could compare "not all men" to "not all fires". Because saying "not all fires" when an unliving and unknowing force of destruction destroys somebody house is definitely the same as saying "not all men" when half the human population is generalized as being rapists and murderers! And I'm not defending Nick Fuentes; he sucks. However, using him to push misandry makes one on the same level as him.
/r/MensRights13/11/24 08:43 PM
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"It does say a lot about you when the worst thing you can think of for a woman is 'fat', okay." I think body shaming is stupid, but I find it funny how she literally made a threat against the lives of members of a protected class based on said protected class and then openly admits that the worst insults directed her way in response were merely based on her weight. This person is very obviously mentally unwell, however, and I hope they get the help they need before they actually have the chance …
/r/MensRights13/11/24 08:39 PM
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If it's such a small number of people, then using general statements as broad and sweeping as "men" and "women" doesn't seem very productive, hence the need to add "not all X".
/r/MensRights10/11/24 01:21 AM
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"Not all women" is a completely valid statement. Don't be like the misandrists who get offended by "not all men".
/r/MensRights09/11/24 02:34 PM
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Both parties call the other a threat to democracy. Both parties are correct.
/r/MensRights09/10/24 07:37 PM
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In my opinion, a man can follow gender roles if he wishes, but if he doesn't want to, he shouldn't be discriminated against doing so either. This is my exact belief. I'm a much more feminine man, and I've definitely received a lot of hatred because of that (including from many feminists...), but I will still be the first to call out when people demonize masculinity. It's no wonder that people like Tate have exploded in popularity when one side is saying "be a man but masculinity is toxic" and th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/24 03:30 PM
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I think some white men still do have some privileges over minorities but I can hardly think of any major privileges they can have unless they're very rich and powerful. White men have privilege over black men in the legal system, but things get muddier when you look at the intersectionality of things. Indeed, the reason why black men are at such a disadvantage in the legal system is because they are at the intersection of being black and male, with being male actually providing more disadvantage…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/24 08:59 PM
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I'd argue it's quite common, just made to look like something else due to how our culture (rightly) places a massive taboo on racism. A lot of the arguments made towards men being statistically more violent are not only the same ones used against black people but also by nature disproportionately affect black men due to them being at the intersection of two groups who face legal and social double standards. After all, black women have been shown to not only be way less likely to be victims of po…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/24 08:10 PM
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Should probably replace that link with an NP one so we can't be accused of brigading. Edit since someone asked what NP was then deleted their comment: No Participation; it is done by replacing the 'www' with 'np' and brings you to a read-only form of the page. Admins tend be very harsh on subs with a controversial message (i.e. one they do not personally approve of) if anything done in those subs can be interpreted as "negatively interacting with other subs".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 11:20 PM
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It's crazy to think the abuse my mother did against my father and me as a kid because she was "stressed" would be treated so minorly on this site.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 11:19 PM
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It's especially funny because I imagine many people here against the sexism in how mandatory military service is handled throughout the world are also against men receiving any special privileges, so you really have to question who's more "feminist" by the common definition.
/r/MensRights27/08/24 09:47 PM
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You're likely in more danger than women according to statistics, but our culture encourages men to be fearless in the face of danger even at the cost of their own lives all while telling women that they're in danger and must protect themselves or be protected. I tend to be quite afraid of walking alone at night because I've been taught to see my own weaknesses (being a short and relatively androgynous man in a culture that still sees gender non-conformity among men as a bad thing), but no amount…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/24 06:07 PM
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You heard it here folks; you have to actively intervene in a situation no matter how dangerous it may be for you to do so to be considered a good man.
/r/MensRights17/08/24 07:38 PM
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Everything must be seen in context. While the use of words is certainly questionable, Kamala is using Trump’s own style against him Nice to see we're choosing between Trump and Trump in the upcoming election. This is exactly what our country needs 🙃
/r/MensRights03/08/24 02:12 AM
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How about she use statements that only harm him instead of half of the American population then?
/r/MensRights03/08/24 02:10 AM
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No one actually cares to call him out, and if they try that get shut down very quickly. Do you only watch far-right news sources, or have you just conveniently missed a massive portion of mainstream media over the past eight years? Trump gets called out for his terrible statements all the time, sometimes even for things that aren't terrible and are just taken out of context for a good headline, and you seriously are trying to minimize a presidential nominee being openly sexist simply because som…
/r/MensRights03/08/24 02:09 AM
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If it's not feasible to incorporate a service without discriminating who can engage in it based on immutable characteristics, it's not feasible to incorporate said service in the first place.
/r/MensRights31/07/24 05:13 PM
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Google outright peddling misinformation that 91% of victims are women and 99% of perpetrators are men is crazy. I highly suggest that people use the "Feedback" button after searching "sex of rapists" or something similar to report that highlight for being misleading, incorrect, or outdated (they're all options and really all three apply), as it relies on an extremely outdated report by the US DoJ from 2002 that used misleading definitions in order to skew results. In fact, it would take the DoJ …
/r/MensRights16/07/24 03:36 AM
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The article debunks its own claim: “Compared to nonfeminists, feminists did think that men represent more of a threat to women’s dignity and welfare,” Hopkins-Doyle told PsyPost. “This was associated with less positive attitudes to men. However, counteracting this tendency, feminists also perceived that men and women were more similar, and this led in turn to more positive attitudes. It uses a directly misandrist ideal, of men representing a threat to women's dignity and welfare, as an example o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/24 10:46 PM
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https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/men-women-and-crime
/r/MensRights15/04/24 03:27 PM
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Rather than disprove that notion, I think it's more important to prove that men are particularly affected by it. https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/04/male-rape-in-america-a-new-study-reveals-that-men-are-sexually-assaulted-almost-as-often-as-women.html https://www.prearesourcecenter.org/sites/default/files/library/effectsofsexualassaultsonmen-physicalmentalandsexualconsequences.pdf
/r/MensRights14/04/24 01:43 PM
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I think a major piece is just how far Selective Service goes, at least in the states. People say that it will never be used again and therefore doesn't matter (which I'm sure Ukrainians also thought...), but that's just proof of how ignorant they are on the situation. Here's some info straight from https://www.sss.gov/register/benefits-and-penalties/ A man who fails to register with Selective Service may be ineligible for opportunities that may be important to his future. He must register to be …
/r/MensRights06/04/24 05:37 PM
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And nationalism is far-right. Nazis, according to the political compass model, would be considered authoritarian-center.
/r/MensRights08/03/24 09:23 PM
1

The right pushes many harmful stereotypes against men, justifying them by the fact that they also push harmful stereotypes against women. The left at least has rhetoric that is supposed to preach for equality and a lack of harmful stereotypes against men and women, with the issue being that so many leftists adopt a "pick and choose" rhetoric that ends up embracing many of feminism's hyper-conservative aspects.
/r/MensRights08/03/24 09:21 PM
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I love how they justify the use of "mansplaining", "manspreading", "himpathy" (despite the gender empathy gap being a documented phenomenon), and "manterrupting" with generalizations and sexist double standards but then say how "girlboss" can be harmful because it can be used in a tongue-in-cheek way.
/r/MensRights08/03/24 09:17 PM
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God forbid we just have an equal society where men and women are decided based on their aptitude for a job rather than their sex then???
/r/MensRights27/02/24 02:28 AM
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"Source: I made it up" People openly and unironically saying they want one gender in charge of the government are just hilarious.
/r/MensRights27/02/24 12:58 AM
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Ain't no way you just said that is a need
/r/MensRights27/02/24 12:58 AM
5

How about no mutilating people without their consent at all?
/r/MensRights26/02/24 05:25 PM
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How exactly is something as basic as consumerism related to "white supremacist male dominance" in the slightest? Do you seriously think that getting rid of white men in power would somehow magically fix the problems that consumerism has???
/r/MensRights26/02/24 05:24 PM
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You clearly do not understand women then. I understand people. You do not understand men or women if you think either is a monolith. You are entirely well within your rights to be a simp and wrong I'm not idolizing shit; I'm just refusing to be sexist. I, like many others, am here because I've experienced sexism; why would I want to perpetuate it? That's what feminism does so often, and I don't wanna engage in behavior like feminism.
/r/MensRights01/02/24 09:55 PM
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They already are actually: https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-safety/automakers-charging-extra-for-automatic-crash-notification-a6462204495/
/r/MensRights01/02/24 09:54 PM
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That's certainly not applicable to all modern women. The ones you see ranting online about how men don't approach them are incels, and plenty of people here have experienced firsthand being associated with incels based solely on their sex, so that mindset should not be encouraged. Now, the incel mindset being encouraged amongst women whilst demonized amongst men (outside of those toxic Tate spheres, which are seen as the literal doom of society by much of the mainstream media) is a more than val…
/r/MensRights01/02/24 09:52 PM
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It's not that women have less empathy; it's that toxic notions that put women on an emotional pedestal are complete fantasy. We shouldn't be treating women like they're lesser just because some women treat men like they're lesser.
/r/MensRights01/02/24 09:49 PM
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You can love women or you can understand them, you can't do both. You can both love and understand anyone regardless of sex, and neither sex gets in the way of that, with only people of both sexes getting in the way of it. She has to love you more than you love her. A couple should love each other equally. Pushing this toxic nonsense is what we (rightly) criticize communities like FDS for doing; let's not embrace it.
/r/MensRights01/02/24 09:46 PM
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You're enabling her toxic behavior rather than outing it, so you are both to blame.
/r/MensRights27/01/24 07:50 PM
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As a pretty feminine man, I can confirm that many of the same people who characterize men as too violent or aggressive will still put down any men who don't embrace those very traits. If anything, those of us who don't fit into their view of masculinity yet refuse to put down masculinity seem to bring out the hyper-conservative values that feminism as a movement pretends it doesn't fully embrace more than most others would. I wouldn't say women in general do this, and I've seen male feminists do…
/r/MensRights27/01/24 07:47 PM
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The problem is that there's no notable conflict between these two groups of feminists, so they build each other up for what they agree upon and just turn a blind eye to what they (supposedly) don't. A movement is only as good as its ability to weed out bad actors, and the feminist movement is glaring in its inability to weed out misandry. And where there is notable infighting amongst feminists is the trans-exclusionary vs the trans-inclusionary (radical) feminists, so it's not like we don't know…
/r/MensRights04/12/23 11:34 PM
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I've never been a big fan of his, and his reaction to Shoe's (who is a leftist who actually cares about men's issues) video on male loneliness shows how out of touch he really is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PUECK5T458
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/23 09:54 PM
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BLM, even if not in totality a black supremacist group, most definitely has enough black supremacists in its ranks for that conclusion to have merit. I feel that a men's rights community of all places should see that most plainly, as BLM puts black women's experiences with police brutality on a pedestal whilst minimizing non-black men's experiences with police brutality, despite women of all races being significantly less likely to be victims of police brutality (and receiving shorter sentences …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/11/23 09:49 PM
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Generalizing men or women is a problem IMO. We should focus on having others stop generalizing men instead of justifying ourselves being able to generalize women.
/r/MensRights22/11/23 02:51 AM
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A few more examples, one old and one recent: https://web.archive.org/web/20221103115639/https://twitter.com/UN_Women/status/1587777181081559041 https://twitter.com/UN_Women/status/1723385166251409582
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/11/23 01:35 AM
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Not every woman is a gaslighter, just like not every man is an abuser either. Let's not use the same exact rhetoric we so often criticize the broader feminist movement for so gleefully using.
/r/MensRights08/11/23 11:58 PM
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As someone who is autistic, you do not speak for me. This post is literally saying how the term "incel" is used to demonize autistic people, with the mainstream usage of the term expanding to cover any kind of man who has potential social issues or feels mistreated by society due to not being able to live up to what it expects a man to be. I've literally seen highly upvoted posts on "Women with ASD" subs complaining about how many autistic men are supposedly "incels".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/23 02:30 AM
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If we exclude far-right-, redpill- and incel-dedicated spaces To be fair, I think this starts to go a bit too far into No True Scotsman territory. Many people here, thankfully, outright reject said communities (and my main gripe with feminism is how little it rejects misandrist actors, allowing their ideals to permeate at large), but I would still consider female incel and other fringe misandrist communities to be part of feminism, so I wouldn't see it as far to reject all the bad actors within …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/23 06:08 PM
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The friends you mention, are all these men or women too? Specifically was talking about my female friends, considering that's the point of the argument. Would you say 'much worse' things to women, that too in a workplace? I'd be much more cautious in the workplace, but that's not to say everyone else would. Do you think the response will be the same if it was a man or a woman? Response from not just the person but also other people around, or the HR? I literally made sure to talk about this in m…
/r/MensRights02/11/23 01:31 PM
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Do you really think a man saying that to a woman would have no consequences? Depends on the context. I agree that men tend to be able to get away with saying a lot less than women can, but we don't know the context here. I've said much worse to many of my friends and been fine. It's normal for friends to banter, but not everyone enjoys the same levels of the same types of banter. Call my comment too long if you want, but you still needed some more clarification.
/r/MensRights02/11/23 04:28 AM
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Stand by it if you so choose, but I won't be "F"ing off. Beta is super commonly used against men who are, as you put it, passive and nonconfrontational to imply that they're not "true men" (even by some of those who say men need to be more emotional or less """scary"""), and it's completely okay, no matter if you're a man or a woman, to be passive and nonconfrontational. I'm not gonna stop you from being misandrist in a MensRights sub, but I laugh at the idea that you'd expect people here of all…
/r/MensRights02/11/23 02:29 AM
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How did she portray the insults? It could very well have just been banter between friends, and I've had plenty of female friends where we would (or do) banter no differently than how you'd stereotypically expect two teenage boys to. With all relationships, even just friendships, it's important to remember that different people express themselves in different, sometimes mutually unintelligible, ways. Your friend might just be making silly little jabs as she would with other friends, so I wouldn't…
/r/MensRights02/11/23 01:30 AM
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"Beta" is a misandrist insult. I think OP could have handled things differently, but calling them a beta for not doing so is stupid.
/r/MensRights02/11/23 01:06 AM
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Did a little bit of googling, and I found this: https://www.mensjournal.com/news/shark-lab-study-how-close-sharks-swim-humans As it seems, sharks tend not to try to attack humans, and people should be much more worried about drowning than they should about sharks. Furthering your analogy, men are attacked much more often than women unprovoked, but it's culturally engrained that women are at danger walking alone at night. When the statistics showing the victimization of men are brought up, it is …
/r/MensRights28/10/23 06:30 PM
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Sharks generally kill people. This is false. There tend to be about 70 shark attacks a year. It's an exception rather than the rule. This makes a good example of how one's interpretation of a supposed fact without providing the proper details can muddy what the actual facts are and spawn inaccurate and harmful generalizations. A similar example is men in general being labelled as rapists, murderers, and abusers, a conclusion which is only true for a very, very small number of men and tends to ig…
/r/MensRights28/10/23 06:02 PM
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Stating facts is not sexist behavior. It's just stating facts. The way you stated them was not factual, and even what could be successfully argued as factual is much more nuanced than how you presented it, and nuance matters a lot in such discussions. I am using it correctly, and Merriam Webster agrees with me by providing this example of use. Why don't we look at the definition which Merriam Webster supplies then, to see whether or not that position of authority is directly implied beyond withi…
/r/MensRights28/10/23 05:25 PM
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You seem to have a vastly overgrown sense of self-importance. I'd rather you attack my argument than me. I don't care what you say or do, it's not going to have any bearing on me. But hopefully somebody else will think about it and decide they're not going to engage in sexist behaviors that are literally common feminist talking points. It's not in your purview to "let something slide" or not, because you aren't any sort of a decision maker. That's not how the idiom "let it slide" works. It means…
/r/MensRights28/10/23 04:39 PM
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At the very least, it generalized women as a whole, even if people tend to understand that general statements are usually much too generalized for what they're supposedly trying to express. Are you really gonna try to use the same argument that so many feminists use when they're called out for generalizing men? I find that behavior abhorrent, and I've gotten in so many arguments with people who say shit like "men are X" and then try to blame me for not seeing the invisible "a supposedly greater …
/r/MensRights28/10/23 03:51 PM
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But one can highlight a toxic culture and mindset without blanketly attributing it to sex. Even if something is true of many women, that doesn't mean it's because they're women, nor is something that is true of many men necessarily because they're men. Echochambers in general tend to be pretty shit, and echochambers spawn from many of the same ideas going uncontested, with bigoted ideas, such as ones that differentiate things such as race and sex, being no exception. That, however, does not mean…
/r/MensRights28/10/23 03:45 PM
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"On average" does not mean cover nearly as much as a blanket statement does. I'm not talking about "censoring words"; I'm talking about not falling into the literal same exact traps that feminism has fallen into time and time again. You can say what you want, but this community wasn't born from "trying to be feminism but for men," so don't expect everything you say to be appreciated if you engage in the behaviors that so many people here have been burnt by.
/r/MensRights28/10/23 03:35 PM
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I don't think it's fair to generalize women any more than it is to generalize men. Talking about the culture that encourages such behaviors, such as keeping women "safe" from men, a woman listening to a man being a sign of a "bad" man while a man listening to a woman being a sign of a "good" man, and so on is fine, as toxic culture isn't something that every single person participates in, but sexist generalizations bypass that in totality. In a feminist sub, you can bet "men are way too confront…
/r/MensRights28/10/23 02:47 PM
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First off, men are a minority in many places, even if not by much, but even a single percentage can be a massive difference. Secondly, if you truly consider non-white people marginalized, then I find it hard to believe you wouldn't also consider men marginalized, as you'll find some overlap in how they're marginalized. For example, here's a good article: https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/demographic-differences-sentencing Let's look at some of these points. Black male offenders cont…
/r/MensRights24/10/23 09:48 PM
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An apology for something you didn't do is especially dangerous because it can be seen as an admission of guilt. Kinda scary that's what they're teaching boys, considering the prevalence of false rape accusations.
/r/MensRights23/10/23 04:47 PM
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Dammit, knew I should have read the fine print before agreeing to be born male!
/r/MensRights18/10/23 09:17 PM
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Heard appealed the verdict. During that trail (which was not televised) her (now substancially more professional) legal team got evidence admitted that was excluded in the televised trial, leading to a substancial reduction of the sentence against her. Where is the source on this? I haven't found any information by just googling it, not even on Wikipedia.
/r/MensRights08/10/23 06:26 AM
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Yep, many rights that women are given automatically are only given to men if they agree to sign their lives away in the time of war at the discretion of the government.
/r/MensRights06/08/23 03:42 PM
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Though it wasn’t to this extent for me, I speak from experience. This person should not be in the presence of children. There is never an excuse to take out abuse you've suffered on your child. It is the responsibility of a parent to stop the cycle of abuse, not perpetuate it.
/r/MensRights20/06/23 03:14 AM
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I would say the bullying is about equal between men and women, though I see rudeness about men being short in general more from women simply because more women are attracted to men than men are. Thing is that you'll also find a lot of women bullying other women because of their looks or weight or whatever, but that doesn't stop people from saying it's due to women being held to higher beauty standards or because of internalized misogyny.
/r/MensRights15/06/23 02:27 PM
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It's a perfect example of roundabout logic: Men are privileged, and any evidence contrary to this idea does not count because men are privileged.
/r/MensRights09/06/23 02:55 PM
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Ah, the good ol' "it's okay if I do it because others are doing it" as you proceed to spew caustic shit that's worse than what the majority of extremists on either side say.
/r/MensRights30/03/23 10:01 PM
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Cowards earn their reward If you really believe that, why are you on Reddit instead of on the front lines?
/r/MensRights30/03/23 09:54 PM
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That's one of the most twisted and vile things I've ever heard, especially in a situation where people were kept in each other's company because of their immutable characteristics.
/r/MensRights30/03/23 09:52 PM
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The issue is that people of different sexes are treated differently, necessitating the bandaid of a solution that is to allow people to change under which class of citizen they are legally treated as.
/r/MensRights30/03/23 07:54 PM
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Are you saying that "I changed my legal gender" means "I hate human rights" to you?
/r/MensRights30/03/23 07:51 PM
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All of the prisoners?
/r/MensRights30/03/23 07:47 PM
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So you're telling me if a man starts a fire, all the other men deserve to die with him?
/r/MensRights30/03/23 07:45 PM
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How much you wanna bet the same people who support this shit are the ones who say "men aren't killed for their sex" when it's pointed out that men are much more likely than women to be the victims of violent crimes.
/r/MensRights30/03/23 07:44 PM
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Minors can't consent. 16 might be at the edge of what some consider to be a minor, but the dynamic of teacher/student pulls things back well into the realm of grossness.
/r/MensRights24/03/23 01:57 PM
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I consider it beating them at their own game. If they want to draw pointless distinctions in the sand, I don't see why I shouldn't do so as well. If they tell me I'm not a girl, they're transphobic. If they make fun of me for being a girl, they're misogynistic. If they tell me I'm making a mockery of transpeople / women in general, I would just say not being allowed to sit based on my sex is a violation of my expression of my gender identity and so, if only girls are allowed to sit, I must be a …
/r/MensRights12/03/23 08:31 PM
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“I favor the girls, because they behave” Mmmm or all the boys being punished together because of the actions of a few, which was surprisingly common. Hell, literally once someone peed on a toilet seat and they punished all the boys for it since nobody would say they did it, getting to the point where one kid was conspiring to take the fall just for the good of the rest of us. When the boys said what if it was a girl, they said that was impossible. Thankfully, a later teacher, when presented with…
/r/MensRights12/03/23 08:20 PM
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I would just say "I guess I'm a girl now."
/r/MensRights12/03/23 08:17 PM
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If the draft were to include women, it would likely never be used again.
/r/MensRights11/03/23 05:37 PM
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Then you'd be accused of fighting against women's sexual liberation.
/r/MensRights10/03/23 08:35 PM
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Great time to start identifying as a woman, lads. Or should I say ladies.
/r/MensRights10/03/23 08:34 PM
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The height example is a good one because I have personal experience with it, being the extremely tall height of 6'5" without the apostrophe, practically a giant when compared to ants. I have surely commented on how it's sad that men's worths have been so closely linked to their heights and that it seems like a pretty shitty double standard that it's socially acceptable to shame or be rude to a man for his height (which can't be changed) but not a woman for her weight (which can be changed). That…
/r/MensRights11/02/23 11:12 PM
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It's not "female behavior;" it's misandry being openly touted and accepted. There are indeed bigger problems, but this is an obvious symptom of one. You're making the problem worse for both sides by accepting it as "female behavior," just like how misandrists use "boys will be boys" to justify boys being treated worse in school systems that don't accommodate for their needs in the slightest (which also harms tomboyish girls) and misogynists use it to justify sexual harassment (which also implies…
/r/MensRights11/02/23 10:29 PM
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"Feminism means equality but men's rights means supremacism." I'd expect nothing less from Kotaku. Also, so much of the MRM is trying to break rigid gender roles, such as that men can't be homemakers, teachers, loving parents, et cetera. The idea is that people, regardless of gender, should be free to be traditionally masculine or feminine, instead of the current situation where women can be either but masculine men are called toxic and dangerous whilst feminine men are called not real men.
/r/MensRights27/01/23 05:45 PM
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It's often overlooked that power is a relative concept. Abusers will find a way to abuse no matter what cards they've been given, and you'd think that the term 'gaslighting' having entered the mainstream lexicon would show more people that anyone can have their view on reality completely distorted via emotional and psychological abuse. It is very easy to use one's weaknesses as strengths if you want something done, and I'd like to think that most people understand that neither men nor women are …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/23 11:40 PM
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Same thing as the term "toxic masculinity." Cultural issues against women in society? Result of toxic masculinity. Cultural issues against men in society? Result of toxic masculinity. It's used to insult men one second then supposedly "support" them the next, and then people wonder why so many men feel alienated and attacked by feminism. And both the patriarchy and toxic masculinity are used as excuses for what men face, as if to suggest men face issues is to say that those issues come from a ma…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/23 11:34 PM
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But you're the one who said all 4 billion men but me lack a certain interest, in case you forgot.
/r/MensRights10/01/23 10:23 PM
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Not every single person in the world is by default aligned perfectly to your interests, but okay.
/r/MensRights10/01/23 05:26 PM
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Because men don't give a shit about that type of thing? I do.
/r/MensRights10/01/23 04:52 PM
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Ding ding ding. One reason so many of even the men at top are fine putting down the rest of men is that they are too rich and powerful to be affected, proving yet again that even the most liberal definitions of the "patriarchy" in the west do not result in men making laws to benefit men (as if the Women-are-wonderful effect and studies on in-group bias didn't already prove that). It is also in their interest to keep the working class fighting against itself, fueling extremism on both sides to co…
/r/MensRights08/01/23 05:00 PM
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I would assume from here: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/07/07/61-of-u-s-women-say-feminist-describes-them-well-many-see-feminism-as-empowering-polarizing/ It's still only 61%, and I've actually used those stats before to argue that feminism cannot be plainly understood as fighting purely for equality if even 39% of the people feminism supposedly represents the most in a society that pushes so often that it means 'equality' do not feel the term describes them even somewhat well, with…
/r/MensRights08/01/23 04:54 PM
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Since when is egalitarianism not what we're striving for? It's what feminism was supposed to strive for, and there's a reason so many feminist groups consider egalitarianism to be a threat. Hell, what are you even doing here if you look at men who want basic equality and call their mindsets cucked? Seems to me like you're the type of person we're fighting against; this forum isn't supposed to be about hating women in the first place (though I guess we need to do a better job at alienating people…
/r/MensRights08/01/23 04:47 PM
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It's not the actions of a few though. That's the problem. The majority of women identify as feminist. Even if it's the actions of many, it's most certainly not the actions of all. You have to remember that many people still just passively buy the whole "feminism means equality" shit (as well people who do good things but still brand themselves as feminists, even if the movement as a whole has long since become one of hate), and you'll find plenty of men supporting feminism in one way or another …
/r/MensRights07/01/23 09:23 PM
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It's most certainly not women as a whole, and you shouldn't hate half the world's population for the actions of a few. Generalizing that many people at all is not a good idea IMO. I say the same thing to people who say they hate men, though of course hating men is seen as hip these days, so my criticisms tend to fall on deaf ears. We're not gonna reach anyone at all if we embrace sexism, especially in a culture that treats misogyny as much worse than misandry. The more actual sexism in this plac…
/r/MensRights07/01/23 08:52 PM
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That is only true of some men and some women. Considering Reddit's demographics, plenty of the people in that thread accusing the BF of cheating are probably men themselves, and surely a fair number of the ones who agree a paternity test should be fine are women. Let's not make overarching generalizations about an entire sex in either direction.
/r/MensRights02/01/23 07:47 PM
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Top comments on that currently have came to the conclusion from this ask alone that the guy is likely cheating. Well obviously if the baby is a different skin color, then he slept with a woman with darker skin and got her pregnant! Maybe the girlfriend should be getting a maternity test!1
/r/MensRights02/01/23 07:46 PM
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I feel a very important piece about this is how Avatar was able to show that good and bad people exist regardless of racial, sexual, cultural, and national identity. While it showcases one of the worst father figures possible in Ozai, it also showcases one of the best possible in his very own brother. While so many other pieces of entertainment blame a father's mishaps as intrinsic to fathers, Avatar emphasizes to the audience, largely composed of children with their own father figures, both tha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/22 01:06 AM
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There are far fewer women in prison than men to start with — women make up just 7 percent of the prison population. This means that these women are disproportionately affected by a system designed for men. I've gotta give them props; they're not even hiding it anymore. Just outright admitting that a model of incarceration and punishment is designed for men in particular despite the fact that the system is supposed to be designed for people who commit crimes.
/r/MensRights30/12/22 11:50 PM
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I feel unsafe around most people when walking alone, including women. Should they have to change in order to accommodate me as well?
/r/MensRights31/10/22 07:57 PM
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Just so you know, you don't owe anyone an apology. You aren't part of the problem due to something you have no control over, and acknowledging the issues at all makes you part of the people working for the solution.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 05:36 AM
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I wouldn't say good women are any rarer or more common than good men; it's just a difficult landscape to navigate to find good people in general.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 05:35 AM
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Circumcision is a religious practice for Jews (who typically vote for the Dems) and for the Muslims (who do they vote for?). But it’s basically standard procedure in the US so I doubt either side is “more prone” to it. I'd wager that religious integrity tends to be a big thing for Republicans, and, even though the Abrahamic religions don't like each other all that much, they tend to wish for similar things. Republicans definitely lean towards supporting Israel, and most Islamic countries make Re…
/r/MensRights14/10/22 07:50 PM
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I personally think the current trend of incels and all is the result of young men being sent down a fascist pipeline due to being utterly rejected by the mainstream. I'd say in any political system so corrupt and polarized as ours, the right leads to more "traditional" forms of fascism whilst the left more "progressive" forms, in the sense that one proudly associates themselves with what is known as fascism whilst the other paints itself as something different (like so-called anti-fascists). Pol…
/r/MensRights14/10/22 06:21 PM
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IIRC, Republicans have also consistently moved to keep women from needing to register for the draft, alongside MGM typically being a conservative/religious practice. As it seems now, Democrats openly don't care for men whilst Republicans only pretend to care for them.
/r/MensRights14/10/22 06:15 PM
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Thanks for all you're help.
/r/MensRights12/10/22 06:13 PM
5

My condolences
/r/MensRights06/10/22 11:53 PM
3

Imagine not wanting to watch a show that spends most of its time demonizing you because of how you were born.
/r/MensRights06/10/22 11:48 PM
12

Damn, in that one little statement, all the following can be assumed to be true in her eyes: Russian men are responsible for the mistreatment of Russian men by the Russian government. Similarly, North Korean citizens are responsible for the mistreatment of North Korean citizens by the North Korean government. God, I can only guess what she'd have to say about Jewish citizens of Germany in 1940... Russian women are exempt from the above statement, therefore implying that women are not citizens. H…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/09/22 08:12 PM
1

I think people should just be who they naturally are, and if the person they naturally are happens to be stereotypically masculine or stereotypically feminine they should not feel any shame for that. I myself don't swing much in either direction, though I have plenty of stereotypically masculine/feminine interests. Because general androgyny is much more feminine than the expectations placed on men however, I am definitely perceived as more feminine. From what I've seen, some MRA's see that as a …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/22 07:12 PM
8

The majority of violence is against men, so the world must just be so incredibly violent if you see even the minority of victims everywhere you look. I'm not saying violence against women is okay in the slightest or deserved of less attention than violence against men, but I just can't believe you see it everywhere when violence is so rare in general.
/r/MensRights27/07/22 10:36 PM
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I'd argue the majority if not totality of permanent mutilation done for cosmetic purposes would fall under "bad" in regards to things unwillingly done on an infant
/r/MensRights04/07/22 11:56 PM
5

This happens to men trying to get vasectomies too, many places, regardless of if the patient is male or female, will require their partner's consent. I think the idea of "vasectomies until you have children" is stupid, but if someone is informed of the potential consequences of a medical procedure and decides to go through with it then they should be allowed to get that procedure done.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 04:09 PM
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People who discuss sex strikes simply reveal how much value they place on sex, typically making it just as much or even more of a burden on them than on whomever they wish to punish. Some alternatively really just don't care about sex, but that probably means they're not getting any anyway and are just trynna hop along the bandwagon to feel productive in some way.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 07:56 PM
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Trans people pulling the "bone me or you are a bigot!!!"? It should be noted that the people who do that are incels and do not represent the people who have actual dysphoria and simply wish to be accepted while still understanding that people don't have to change their sexual orientation just because of them. People love to use incels as an example of why pushing for Men's Rights is bad as well.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 04:49 PM
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"When you're accustomed to privilege equality feels like oppression." So many men are unhappy with this decision as well, but last time the fight for women's reproductive rights happened, men's reproductive rights were put to the sidelines. So it only makes sense that, now that legislation is going to be happening in many states giving women back reproductive rights, we should advocate for such legislation to also give men reproductive rights. That would be the path of least resistance anyway, w…
/r/MensRights26/06/22 03:27 PM
12

Average NoFap user.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 03:17 PM
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Ya, so many of them become incredibly pro-life when you ask about a potential father also having the right to choose. Apparently it's okay for a man to be financially responsible for a child he did not consent to having because "if you don't want a kid then don't have sex."
/r/MensRights26/06/22 03:15 PM
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Same with all the people saying "if we all boycott sex with all men, all of them will revert to their animalistic ancestors and force abortion to be legal across the country for the sake of sex!1" as if anyone wanted to have sex with them in the first place.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 08:59 PM
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I don't want thanks or criticism for something I didn't do, nor do I want to be called a threat by some racist/sexist propagandist :)
/r/MensRights05/06/22 04:52 PM
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Ya, I've maintained for years now that we should not treat false accusations as any more of a gendered issue than the crimes which are falsely accused against someone. While it's true that it affects men more currently, the problem feminism ran into was that it so often dismissed concerns of problems which disproportionately affected women also affecting men, resulting in pointlessly gender-based regulations that put men at a systemic disadvantage in many areas. For an advocacy group to be valid…
/r/MensRights01/06/22 08:57 PM
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I think this sends a message to all abusers, both male and female, that they won't get away with this shit. The men who abuse deserve just as much to be intimidated by this verdict as the women who abuse do. That said, this is the first time I've seen a false accusation against a man be so scrutinized, so it's definitely also a win for all people who have been falsely accused of domestic violence, of which men currently make up the majority. I just don't want this to be seen as a "win for all me…
/r/MensRights01/06/22 08:20 PM
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So systemic discrimination is okay because others are doing it? I thought we were supposed to be ending discrimination based on unchosen characteristics, not encouraging it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/22 07:04 AM
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FGM comes in a variety of forms, all reprehensible except for the ones sought out by the individual themselves. I surely wouldn't advocate for even the most modest forms of FGM upon a child, so I don't see why MGM should be tolerated any more.
/r/MensRights17/05/22 04:54 AM
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No matter what he is, how does the content of this comic possess any far right or nazi points? You surely wouldn't consider the dislike of MGM as either, would you? I thought bodily autonomy was supposed to be a progressive stance. Even bad people can have good points, and I hope you agree lest you fall into the trap of Reductio ad Hitlerum.
/r/MensRights17/05/22 04:54 AM
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As they always say, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
/r/MensRights17/05/22 04:49 AM
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Similar to the NTS, it's a bad faith stance. If a "feminist" makes a misandrist claim. You simply appeal to equality and disregard their position of a feminist. They're exposing themselves as "not true feminists" Your definition is alarming, but I guess you can just replace "feminist" with "people who call themselves feminists but actually aren't" when reading our arguments then. They were unrelated to the source material. They were quite related to men's status as a "privileged group" as far as…
/r/MensRights10/05/22 10:42 PM
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This is just patently false. The ideals of feminism start from the basis of equality, you can unilaterally ignore anything someone says that doesn't align with that. "Oh you want men to still be circumcised" oh well, guess you aren't a feminist then. move on I'm confused. Are you saying all people who claim to be feminists but aren't for gender equality aren't real feminists, in a No True Scotsman kind of way? I'd argue actual egalitarian feminists to move on from the title. Even I dislike the t…
/r/MensRights10/05/22 07:54 PM
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Opposite in fact. I support Men's Rights. I just don't do it in a way that demonises women or blames all of men's problems on the big scary feminism. I'm not demonizing women in the slightest (and I do not associate feminism with women), and while not all men's problems are caused by feminism, so many of them are completely ignored, suppressed, and encouraged by the feminist movement. You cherry picked issues that aren't men vs women in nature and are skipping huge swathes of context for affirma…
/r/MensRights10/05/22 01:18 PM
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Where? You've established you're against MRA's already (and egalitarians who support men's rights), so I know you're not agreeing with me. Tell me where anything I just said is men seeing equality as a lack of privilege. Or do you simply mean I see it in action by reading your comments?
/r/MensRights10/05/22 12:53 AM
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Ya, because feminism totally doesn't receive massive support from both sexes in modern western society, and advocation for men's rights is totally not frowned upon, even in regards to things such as giving men equal parental rights and equal bodily autonomy rights. Because the ones who don't have any power are the ones given the largest voice. Because periods of more women being killed than usual, even when vastly outnumbered by male victims, being classified as femicide (while a declaration of …
/r/MensRights09/05/22 11:46 PM
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This showed up as 2 lines for me, so I shall give my reaction to each one: Alabama introduces ban on child genital mutilation forbidding the removal of “any healthy or non-diseased body part or tissue, "FUCK YES" except for a male circumcision” "Fuck." Not that I'd expect Alabama of all places to do such a progressive thing, but there was a glimmer of hope for a second.
/r/MensRights09/05/22 11:16 PM
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So easy to find that it's pretty much a dead sub and took you 4 tries when you were actively looking for it. And on top of that it's seemingly a fetish sub of all things, akin to r/BlackWorldOrder where it's more about the fantasy than the actual idea of hating people for their immutable characteristics, something mostly agreed upon to be fine on Reddit...
/r/MensRights21/04/22 03:22 PM
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Did you make that sub on an alt or something? It's so incredibly small that I struggle to see any other way you would have come across it.
/r/MensRights21/04/22 01:33 AM
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And from so many of the same people who use "straight white male" as an insult as well.
/r/MensRights10/04/22 02:48 PM
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The question then is would these same people be fine with transmen in women's spaces. Considering how dangerous they see men as in general and the sentiment I see from these people, I doubt they would be treated as women in that situation either.
/r/MensRights31/03/22 02:04 AM
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I disagree, but I don't see it as inherently sexist to suggest it. Here however, it was specifically for women. Despite many wishing that there would be, there is no equivalent for men (or if there is, it is so incredibly few in numbers that there is no documentation on it). As for the transphobia, they're arguing transwomen shouldn't be allowed in women-only cars either.
/r/MensRights31/03/22 01:28 AM
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Names are blurred out because even if their opinions are bigoted, sending people to them is simply stooping down to their level and giving people like them more reasons, no matter how unfounded, to completely disregard men's issues. So please don't interfere. This is on a sub with over ten million members and not related to feminism at all, but the post itself was related to a type of women-only area where there was no men-only area, and the thread was about someone asking if a trans woman would…
/r/MensRights31/03/22 12:54 AM
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An alt-right news source would say the same thing but with "black-violence" instead, proving horseshoe theory yet again.
/r/MensRights28/03/22 01:36 PM
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I'm a pretty short dude; I know I'm not winning a fight and so I tend not to risk one. In a situation like that I'd call the police, but nobody should ever be expected to risk their lives for a stranger. It doesn't matter if that stranger is in more danger than the passerby would be; nobody deserves to have their lives put on the line simply because they're strong or male or whatever else. There are professionals who can handle these situations. Even they put their lives on the line doing so, bu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/22 01:20 AM
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I always hate how in autistic communities, being a "cis white male" is seen as embracing a stereotype. I didn't choose to be born how I was, and it's just as fine for media portraying autistic people to have their autistic character be white/male/whatever as it is to have them be black/female/whatever else. As long as they weren't chosen because of bigotry, there shouldn't be a problem with it. Also, people commonly try to prioritize autism in women in particular since it's more rarely diagnosed…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/22 08:56 PM
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I think that by default all mothers/fathers should have the choice to abort/paper abort, but there should also be such a thing as a "baby contract" where each party agrees to have and support the child barring extreme circumstances. And the specific terms could change from couple to couple, making it where instead of a law needing to clarify everything in a way that only works for some, each couple could choose circumstances where abortion and the like would be applicable (since they both would …
/r/MensRights20/03/22 09:24 PM
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Calls men people instead of men when they're the victims "This is clearly because you don't consider women people." Treating men as the default also gives women special treatment, so both sides are harmed by it, hence why both sides should be fighting against it. Women are also considered the default people in situations like rape and domestic violence victimhood, so I wonder what you think about that. I think it can harm both men and women, but I guess you just see it as men not being considere…
/r/MensRights13/03/22 08:28 PM
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And it should be mentioned that many people mention the "black on black crime" merely in response to when white people are given the blame because of their race. There are idiots who actually do victim blame black people because of their race, but our society obviously doesn't accept those people and rightfully so. I never see anyone saying women are responsible for these men's deaths, so there's no need to say "well actually men commit more crimes against men." If someone does blame women as a …
/r/MensRights13/03/22 08:24 PM
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It's because it's kinda automatically assumed as men unless stated otherwise. Not to me, and I highly doubt an article about 81 people being raped would have people assume those 81 people are men. We're the default people. And I think that's okay. We are not the "default people," and it wouldn't be okay if we were. It's unfair to both men and women, giving women special treatment and designing things with mainly men in mind.
/r/MensRights13/03/22 08:20 PM
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If it were 75 men and 6 women, I'm sure some headlines would say "81 people executed in 24 hours in Saudi Arabia, including 6 women." All that said, I'd actually prefer they say "people" instead of "men" as long as they extend that same standard to women, so criticism should only be levied toward the sources that have a history of only mentioning the victim's gender when they are female (and the opposite where it applies). I'm completely fine with children getting special treatment though becaus…
/r/MensRights13/03/22 08:15 PM
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Like how in many places rape laws don't include women raping men, and for the places that do, men will still have to deal with the heavy bias against them alongside the shame put upon them by society for coming forward. And then the same places that say "so many women are raped than are reported but don't trust the law to help them" and "it's never the rape victim's fault" and "always believe the victim" suddenly will instead say "if men are raped, why are there so few reported cases?" and "you'…
/r/MensRights11/03/22 08:30 PM
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Some people call them femcels, but they're really just incels unless you want to distinguish between the genders as mancels and femcels.
/r/MensRights04/03/22 07:32 PM
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There are plenty of women in power and plenty who are against the draft including women. Stop pretending like only men want/have power and all women are innocent people (literally just google "most ruthless queens" ffs). Neither women nor men as a group are to blame, but there are many specific women and men who are very much responsible for perpetuating and reinforcing the sexism around the draft.
/r/MensRights25/02/22 10:15 PM
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Ah yes, because the only disparity in this graph is between race, not sex.
/r/MensRights22/02/22 05:51 PM
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BuT aT lEaSt It WiLl Be EaSIeR tO cLeAn!1
/r/MensRights02/02/22 07:17 PM
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The Spanish constitutional court has ruled this isn't discrimination because Patriarchy(tm). Institutionalized advantages for women and discrimination against men, proof of the patriarchy. Though I guess of course they'd think that, since if you dismiss all evidence of something, when it comes up again you'll treat it as the first time it's been seen and dismiss it for the same reason, even as it continues to happen over and over again. Unless they're saying that they themselves are the "patriar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/22 10:59 PM
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Well obviously. They have to ensure that men are given less chances at the vaccine so that they can continue to blame men for not getting the vaccine. It was never about hating the unvaccinated to them; it was about hating men. And then people criticize men for the few who don't seek adequate medical treatment as medical facilities position themselves against men, almost as if people are less likely to trust a system when it is designed to work against them.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 03:31 AM
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Reminder that women are no more of a collective than men. Misandrists like this author obviously contribute to making more misogynists in the same way misogynists contribute to making more misandrists, but that is the fault of misogynists and misandrists, not men and women. So yes it happens and yes this author is very much so actively contributing to the problem, but "lookist bigotry, gold digging, rudeness, etc." should not be associated with women as a collective (which the "y'all" quite impl…
/r/MensRights25/01/22 03:24 AM
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What collective are you talking about? I did not choose to be born the way that I am. I did not and do not have control over my biological sex. And my biological sex has nothing to do with who I am, except for when people actively treat me different because of it (i.e. people like you) and thus remove my actions from the equation. I am not part of any collective unless you profile me as such, and if you do then that is your fault, not mine. Edit: This person has seemingly blocked me so that they…
/r/MensRights25/01/22 03:15 AM
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I love the doublethink on display in the article considering that the whole blaming a group of people because someone who shares an immutable characteristic with them committed a crime is not only typically done to men... but also black people. Did they not realize that they are the problem that they claim to be against, especially considering the fact that the overlap of black people and men overrepresented in these crimes is quite significant? It's obvious that that isn't the fault of black pe…
/r/MensRights25/01/22 03:11 AM
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Sexists are typically sexist against both genders, even if they don't immediately show it, so it makes sense. Sexists also tend to have quite deficient empathy (a cause of their sexism), so it makes even more sense that one would be incapable of understanding that their flaws are their own and not everyone else's.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 03:03 AM
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Who said that they did? I'm a big believer that the toxicities of feminism does not even remotely encompass all women and that it is important to remember that most people, male or female or black or white or whatever, are good people completely unrelated to injustices. I also find it very important to remind people that it doesn't matter how many men or women are being sexist against either gender; what matters is that it needs to change. And yet the first comment does not warrant any of those …
/r/MensRights22/01/22 09:38 PM
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I don't know, you're the one who seems all too happy with violence over pacifism. War is an avoidable tragedy to each side that experiences it, and being happy that people who were forced to fight died doesn't seem very leftwing at all unless you follow some extremely twisted definition of what is left and what is right. And if the races of the people who died justifies their killing at all to you, you might as well be the epitome of right wing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/11/21 05:37 AM
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While it is good to highlight double standards, this is just not even remotely the way to do so. You should never sexually assault or harass somebody even if they are a sexual harasser. On top of it being morally reprehensible and disgusting no matter if done by a man or a woman, it's also illegal. You won't just not receive consequences because she didn't, and it won't be decided that you should have been exempt because she was. Best case scenario you both receive equal consequences if you're l…
/r/MensRights15/10/21 09:14 PM
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I think it's best to not assume the immediate worst in people discussing respect, especially in a place like here where many people have experienced situations where more respect was demanded from them that was demanded for them (though I understand that this sub gets a bad rep too and so people tend to come in here on the defensive, not something that is their fault though also not the fault of the average user here), but I see your point and where the opportunity for different interpretations …
/r/MensRights14/10/21 04:35 PM
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They have no problem making women feel comfortable; they simply don't want to make others comfort at the expense of their own comfort. What's wrong with that? Is that not basic self preservation? I like making people comfortable too and actually will sacrifice my own comfort to do so, but even I have limits on what I'll do, especially with complete strangers. When so much is demanded to make others comfortable, it becomes pretty discomforting itself. I won't get in between a woman and someone wh…
/r/MensRights14/10/21 04:14 PM
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Where did they say that? What I saw was someone who wishes to treat everyone with respect feeling degraded that it be demanded of them to treat women with respect merely because they are women, so we surely must be reading different comments.
/r/MensRights14/10/21 03:47 PM
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The main thing is that men's issues only matter to them if they don't overshadow women's issues. Feminism is utterly incompatible with men's rights, and MensLib is completely compatible with feminism. Indeed, even the mods have admitted that they are incompatible with men's rights, like with this special comment from a mod: Okay, I get that a lot of you came from BreadTube/LeftTube/whatever. But apparently some of you MRA and MRA-adjacent folks came from the same wave. Seriously, read the sticky…
/r/MensRights13/10/21 12:51 PM
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In my opinion because they look at men's rights from a feminism perspective and thus so often simply wish that the "good men be protected from the bad men." The "toxic masculinity hurts men too" types who associate toxic gender norms against both men and women and perpetuated by both men and women to be the fault of men. Feminism very often goes towards establishing men as second class compared to women, and MensLib simply works towards giving men rights as these second class citizens rather tha…
/r/MensRights13/10/21 12:33 PM
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I present to you r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates, where many of us who feel that r/MensRights has gotten too close with sexist ideologies that put down women and is becoming just "a male version of a feminist sub" have flocked to. It is a really good sub too because unlike r/MensLib which is just a feminist (and thus male-hating) sub that talks about men's rights, r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates is staunchly against feminism and actively considers it to be a rightwing force considering that feminist ideologies …
/r/MensRights13/10/21 11:55 AM
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I don't think you deserved to be cheated on even if you slept with with cheaters in the past. While it is good that you have grown because aiding people with cheating is a pretty bad thing, people who put themselves out to cheat won't just not cheat if you decide not to help them but rather just cheat with someone else. What's best is nobody cheating at all instead of relationships being a battlefield where cheating could even conceivably be considered karma. Not all women are the same, and ther…
/r/MensRights13/10/21 11:50 AM
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Yes yes. We all know everyone here doesn't like women. I just downvoted this post for being sexist, but I guess I hate women now because I participate in a men's rights sub? I agree with literally every other part of your post except for that line, which honestly I feel only exacerbates the problem that this sub has by further cementing an idea many of us are trying to fight against.
/r/MensRights13/10/21 11:31 AM
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Idea: Don't blame men or women. OP was wrong immediately once they said they were losing respect for "all modern women" as if women, modern or not, are some hivemind group who deserve to be treated as such instead of as individuals, and you were wrong once you said "blame men for their promiscuity" honestly implying close to the same thing and also victim blaming OP for being cheated on when there are indeed double standards regarding dating in modern culture. And I'm pretty sure OP is saying th…
/r/MensRights13/10/21 11:23 AM
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I can't comment on if the post is low effort or not (though it sparks enough discussion that it shouldn't be removed), but I don't understand how this post has any relevance to "just shitting on feminists." Maybe OP has done that before in which case go off on those posts, but I don't see it happening in this post so I don't see how it applies here. It highlights an issue that is seen very commonly among feminists where men are treated as disposable and a danger that must be stopped, but that do…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/21 04:06 AM
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The post isn't even saying that; it literally just swapped the genders and changed reddit to TwoX. It's not agreeing with the post even with the genders swapped. Next are you gonna accuse r/menkampf of being antisemitic?
/r/MensRights27/07/21 01:51 PM
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No lie when I read the title I thought that was extremely sexist and that an echochamber of sexists shouldn't change your entire view on a gender full of completely normal and delightful people. Then I clicked, and it all made so much more sense. In other news, someone posted a comment saying: Some dude on “men’s rights” crossposted this and its disgusting. I hope you’re not getting hate dms. He didnt hide your name or anything. Men are fucking gross. What's even better is the original poster li…
/r/MensRights27/07/21 01:48 PM
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Same at both. I present as pretty androgynous/undifferentiated as is, and any of my "boyish" traits have already been deemed acceptable for women to possess while the opposite is far from the case.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/21 11:54 AM
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Since everyone is asking, here's the original with sources: https://www.instagram.com/p/COu1gSLNf7Z/
/r/MensRights08/06/21 02:58 PM
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Men are significantly more likely to be assaulted but men are also significantly more likely to be walking alone at night. Since women are afraid of doing that. Because keeping women safe and giving them safety strategies is encouraged and taught as a fundamental part of our culture, and men are expected to put themselves in potential danger to stop women from feeling unsafe. Despite men being more likely to be victims, the overwhelming majority of the support, advice, and media attention goes t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/21 04:09 PM
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I don't think men should be proud of being men, and I don't think women should be proud of being women. Pride for something you have no control over is not a good thing imo, and from what I've observed it tends to lead to bigotry and a sense of entitlement and superiority. People should be proud of what they do, not what they are. So while I agree the double standard of pride is an issue; I don't think the solution is male pride. Everyone should practice humility.
/r/MensRights27/03/21 01:47 AM
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On a slightly related note, it really bugs me how many people say men should look out for women and defend them against catcallers like its some civic duty that I have been given by being born male. I will defend my friends, male or female, against being called names, catcalled, ridiculed, approached by a creep, etc. not because of theirs or my gender but because I care about that person. It's become common knowledge that women are just as independent as men, but so many of the same people who c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/21 06:22 PM
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I looked a little bit and found this: https://www.fixfamilycourts.com/single-mother-home-statistics/ 72% of juvenile murderers, and 60% of rapists came from single mother homes. Chuck Colson, “How Shall We Live?” Tyndale House , 2004, p.323 “After controlling for single motherhood, the difference between black and white crime rates disappeared.” Progressive Policy Institute, 1990, quoted by David Blankenhorn, “Fatherless America: Confronting Our Most Urgent Social Problem,” New York, Harper Pere…
/r/MensRights18/03/21 04:16 PM
1

Wut. Are you sure you replied to the right person?
/r/MensRights06/02/21 08:22 PM
9

Where exactly did he say this? I have looked everywhere, including many sources that paint him as the sole abuser, and the closest thing I could find is him admitting that he accidentally headbutt her when she was attacking her. I'm not saying he has to be telling the truth, but the only person I've seen who has admitted to hitting anyone first is Amber Heard.
/r/MensRights01/02/21 11:32 PM
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By the way please don't try to attack this person. Someone literally mentioned me in the above thread to get people to attack me, and I don't want to stoop down to their level. That is also why I have blurred their name. However it is just disgusting that something that you'd think would be so normalized is used as an insult and an excuse to invalidate anything you say. Do we seriously have to start posting here on alts so we're not attacked when a lot of us are here because we have witnessed or…
/r/MensRights27/01/21 05:58 AM
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Ah yes, because a culture that normalizes putting men in dangerous situations and sheltering women is violence towards women, not men.
/r/MensRights26/01/21 04:36 PM
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It’s impossible to have a fruitful discussion in this sub when so many of you are arrogantly ignorant of basic definitions. The patriarchy does not mean I “blame all men”. That’s insane because I’m a man. Excuse me, I said blaming exclusively men. It is you who twisted and turned that into "all" men. Additionally, I don't care what your gender is since there are plenty of men who hate men and women who hate feminism. Please explain how every US president, nearly every military leader on earth, m…
/r/MensRights12/01/21 12:42 AM
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this guy: “Zero feminists want equality!” Me: “I am, I do.” downvotes It seems you forgot a crucial part of your own comment: Every feminist I’ve met recognizes that the patriarchy hurts men. There are feminists who want equality, but you're not one of them if you think the root of men's problems is the PaTrIaRcHy. Blaming exclusively men is sexist, and if women are involved (which they are because both men and women are involved), have you ever thought it's... not patriarchy?
/r/MensRights11/01/21 03:48 PM
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So it is indeed women's fault that the draft does not include women. The actions of a few in the past are not the fault of the many living in the present. Reminder that that logic is where the idea of blaming all men for women's issues comes from.
/r/MensRights27/10/20 05:09 PM
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I made the comment to say that this may be an issue, but it isn't inherently an issue against men. I wasn't making a backhanded comment, and my words convey what I mean perfectly well. I'm not saying that there aren't issues; I'm saying that the service itself is not a men's rights issue. The sexist organization it mentions is an issue and definitely worthy of discussion, but that's not what this post is about. Therefore, the only true issue is the issue of false accusations without punishment. …
/r/MensRights07/02/20 02:48 PM
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As far as I've seen, this is less of a men's rights issue and more of a broader issue regarding the ease of false reporting and the lack of consequences people who do this receive. Sure, false accusations have been shown to harm men more with recent strides by the feminist movement to encourage the accepting of false accusations against men, but the only inherently sexist thing I see here is that they openly display that they're 'trusted by' Women Who Code (and imagine if there were a service li…
/r/MensRights07/02/20 01:36 PM
2

The main issue here is that a lot of people commenting on this post are acting like women are more violent than men when violence knows no gender (and feminists like to blame all men with out-of-context statistics all the time). We should be commenting on the fact that society is allowing for this statistic with its double standards that promote abusive women instead of saying 'Ya, women are more violent'. Some of the comments in this thread are quite toxic: "I also wonder what would make a seem…
/r/MensRights05/11/19 11:41 PM
2

This isn't even just a men's rights issue; this is an issue that puts everyone in danger.
/r/MensRights19/08/19 08:00 PM
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r/fragilewhiteredditor is a good place to start.
/r/MensRights13/08/19 08:39 PM
4

We should already be against misogyny in the first place anyway. I'm not saying people will ever love us, but they'll hate us if we don't follow these standards. If we let it go unchecked for too long, the movement itself may very well lose validity.
/r/MensRights28/07/19 02:38 AM
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I've explained this thoroughly in other places, but here's a summary: Feminism is a movement that started out very different from what it is now, but it is still known for what it was instead of for what it is. Because of that, its bigotries are overlooked. Feminism is the cash cow of the media, so they'll bash anything against feminism whilst putting anything for it on a pedestal. Even with the mainstream media on its side, feminism has started to fall in popularity due to many of its members n…
/r/MensRights28/07/19 02:03 AM
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I didn't know I had to adhere to what you think responding properly is. Just admit it: you were wrong. Don't think I didn't notice that you glossed over the fact that I proved I'm not banned after your whole argument was based on me being someone who is trying to get revenge on that sub for banning me. Try, try again.
/r/MensRights27/07/19 07:32 PM
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You spent several paragraphs telling me I had anger issues this whole time and now you're trying to flip things around. Yep, that's the point. You try to make me angry, I call you angry whilst watching the evidence build, and then you call me angry without evidence. Don't get upset because I beat you at your own game. Consider it self defense. Oh, here is proof I'm not banned. Even if I disapprove of the sub (or at least many of its happenings), I'd rather comment on a post I agree with than ris…
/r/MensRights27/07/19 06:50 PM
3

I see, pædophila is allowed in the schools system if it's labeled as feminism!
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 06:41 PM
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I'll keep digging a hole until I find you bro; hell can't be too far away. All joking aside, this has been fun. No matter my opinion on you, I know you still want equal rights for all... unless... The thing is, concern trolls always claim they're with the people they're concern trolling I get it now! You really are a concern troll! You claim to be with MGTOW whilst admitting that you don't like them! I mean, that is your logic, right? At least I made it very clear I am very much for the MRM. I l…
/r/MensRights27/07/19 06:26 PM
1

Every post you make digs you further and further into a hole, not only are you making false accusations against another sub you are race baiting hard and make it out that you can get offended on behalf of African Americans. LOL you don't need to be a race to hate racism, and all racism outside of maybe harmless jokes really upsets me since I dealt with that shit for too long. I think I see your problem now though: you can't see anything that's against anyone except you, so you believe things aga…
/r/MensRights27/07/19 06:03 PM
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I'm actually amazed at how you could write such a long post and not have a genuine point to make and honestly for somebody who claims to be against feminist ideology oh so much you are word for word going along with the intersectional feminist playbook particularly the shit about african americans and you deliberately trying to find racism where there is none. The post actually disgusted me as someone who has experienced similar bigotries (even in different ways) due to being a (mostly) Caucasia…
/r/MensRights27/07/19 05:39 PM
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That sounds pretty funny to me. I don't think that /r/mensrights does defend against concern trolls, and a culture of calling out "misogyny" could easily be counterprodcutive. The main issue is that we need to show that we are better than feminists at calling out misogynists in this movement. If we don't, we'll become what most of us (including me) see feminism as. It's unfair that they don't have to call out misandrists, but look what the movement has become. The fact that it didn't (except for…
/r/MensRights27/07/19 05:19 PM
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Thank you for proving to me as usual how utterly full of shit you are Wow, it didn't take as much effort as I thought it would to cause you to throw logic out the window and resort to . Just the right amount of special conditioning, and I was able to make you ignore the good points I had and show your true colors. Feminists will do this all the time, and you need to be stronger. The only time I recommend doing this is if someone shows no true points and only attacks the movement itself, as logic…
/r/MensRights27/07/19 05:13 PM
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It's not in front of me, but I do call it out when it is. Hell, I just called out a sub with high rates of misogyny. On the front page in the last 24 hours, r/MGTOW has someone being called a thot because she's stupid enough to believe in astrology, a group of women (who seemingly were just standing in public though there may be missing context) Karens, a post that says 'Fuck women and their logic' which is the same thing as saying 'Men are trash', and a post calling two women dressed as Transfo…
/r/MensRights27/07/19 03:25 PM
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Calling out misogyny is an essential part of the MRM if we ever hope for it to truly succeed. That is why we can defend so well against concern trolls: they never have any ground because we call out many of the same people that they do. If we don't do this, the movement will fall into the same depths that the modern feminist movement has. Please don't just assume OP is a concern troll, a 'retard', vel cetera. May OP be one of these trolls? It's possible. Should we assume anyone that makes a post…
/r/MensRights27/07/19 03:09 PM
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Don't worry; I would respond in the exact same way in public.
/r/MensRights25/07/19 10:59 PM
1

Average women are like average men: Completely normal people that don't throw false accusations. Sexism sets both feminism and the MRM back, and don't think you can be sexist because a lot of feminists are.
/r/MensRights25/07/19 10:39 PM
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Sadly, you're the average idiot. Everyone is calling out this person for his bigotry, and you're just making things worse by justifying his view to him.
/r/MensRights25/07/19 10:37 PM
1

You'll find that those two books do not actually share much information too.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 02:05 PM
3

Definitely. I just think that we should have it ingrained in our ideology now so that we will be prepared for this later. As far as I see it, even starting decades earlier just tells people that we accepted these things not with the changing of times but in anticipation of it.
/r/MensRights17/07/19 01:52 AM
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The big thing too is that the Men's Rights Movement is already criticized for anything that a journalist can manipulate into a headline, so we have to be extra careful. It's annoying, but I feel that it will come back to harm those people later.
/r/MensRights17/07/19 01:50 AM
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This is what I've always assumed and still believe, but if the MRM succeeds, this may not always be the case. I assume that the movement will naturally adapt, but people also assumed the same for feminism... This is more of a precaution than a correction if it appears as the ladder.
/r/MensRights17/07/19 01:46 AM
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That is feminist framing the narrative. the MRM is not at all about men and women, but good men and women standing against an ideology of hate directed at men. Most of the noted speakers, leaders of the MRM are, in fact, women. Same with the old father's rights movement (second wives club). I'm not saying that as if it defines the movement as a whole; many MRAs do not fall into these traps. Still, the extremism of radical feminism causes some people to be extreme back... as is human nature. This…
/r/MensRights17/07/19 01:37 AM
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Wow, they actually just claimed all males of all species are sexist, and you get downvoted for calling it out? Thanks for reminding me that r/tumblr is almost as bad as actual tumblr. The sad thing is too that tumblr is the exact type to get mad about a sexist joke, but sexist jokes are only bad against women of course! The sad thing is too that the stereotype of mansplaining was completely crafted by misandrists, and they only even think the 'joke' is funny because they are politically aligned …
/r/MensRights10/07/19 01:01 PM
1

But what to search is never very clear, and it is almost never to respark discussion if an event has faded from recent memory but still poses a good example or events happening today.
/r/MensRights26/05/19 10:39 PM
1

Wow, a lot more than a week in something that couldn't easily be traced unless you're trying to cause trouble and call everyone a reposter! What do you know?
/r/MensRights26/05/19 10:33 PM
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"But sex with protection is like so stupid when I can like just take the risk and like not have any long term effects!"
/r/MensRights20/05/19 09:57 PM
1

Ya. I think it's more of a vocal minority, but I have heard so many people just ignore the risks of unprotected sex because "I'll just get an abortion if I get pregnant!"
/r/MensRights20/05/19 06:10 PM
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It is in no way a majority of them, but I've met a lot of women that actually go around having unprotected sex with the thought of just being able to get an abortion when they get pregnant. I feel it's more of ignorance or a lack of caring than political alignment, but it does make my blood boil.
/r/MensRights20/05/19 05:38 PM
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Not in the sense that they want to decrease sexual education but in the sense that they don't want to actually use its benefits when it comes to sexual relations.
/r/MensRights20/05/19 05:29 PM
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We do have the same right. Everyone has the right to choose if they want to risk having traditional sex. People can reduce that risk with protection and almost completely mitigate it with different forms of sex. The problem isn't that men don't get a choice at all; the problem is that women are starting to be given two choices - one before sex and one after. That being said, we should have two too if this is the norm - it's called equality. The sad thing is that we're called bigots if we want th…
/r/MensRights20/05/19 02:37 PM
1

This is actually a great idea, but I could never see it happening. I'm against paper abortions since I feel everyone who was responsible in creating a child should have to support it, but I'll advocate for paper abortions any day if the woman gets all the choice in the matter. I really just don't want my future children killed because I wasn't given the choice, and why should men have to be uncertain if they have to support a child or if it will die? Most pro-choice women I've seen don't seem to…
/r/MensRights20/05/19 02:32 PM
2

My personal philosophy is that people advocating for equal rights for men are looked down upon with everything we do or say being interpreted as evil or somehow against women, so the best strategy to take is to battle with facts and call out those who claim to be on our side but our in reality against women. I don't truly consider myself an MRA. To me, that term is just as bad as feminist. Neither people who identify as MRA nor feminist are bad since both terms still are rooted in trying to achi…
/r/MensRights28/04/19 05:24 PM
2

The NY CPS has determined that it's A-okay for young "Desmond" -- a pre-pubescent boy -- to engage in strip teases at gay bars while full grown men/pedophiles throw dollar bills at him. Video by Tim Pool here: Not only are we allowing this, we are celebrating it. Because, um, LGBTQCIA, or something? I'm saying them praising this as great because of LGBT+ is adding another representing group.
/r/MensRights15/03/19 06:44 PM
1

Pædosexual :p
/r/MensRights15/03/19 06:32 PM
1

Ya. Guess what it stands for.
/r/MensRights15/03/19 06:13 PM
1

The fact that it exists is just sad. I morally can't endorse the sub since that's the same shit feminists pull with their 'all men are pigs' shit, saying it isn't bad because it doesn't mean what it says. At the same time, it's a reaction to a sub that literally titles itself as AGAINST MENS RIGHTS to show how hypocritical it is. This is a painful world we live in.
/r/MensRights15/03/19 04:30 PM
1

I see the term is gonna be LGBTQCIAP pretty soon.
/r/MensRights15/03/19 04:26 PM
9

Sometimes I wonder how many members of r/trashy think that the sub is for trashy people to hang out in.
/r/MensRights15/03/19 04:25 PM
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They have a right to be mad! It's not like people are made fun of for small dicks or anything!/s
/r/MensRights28/12/18 01:01 PM
1

I would still park there. If they say I can't, I'd say I identify as a woman that day. If they say the sex on my birth certificate counts, I'd threaten to sue. Easy.
/r/MensRights28/12/18 01:00 PM
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It's a fine line. I do believe that if someone claims they were raped, heavy counseling and support should be offered, but there shouldn't be enough to incentivize false accusations like damn job opportunities. I also feel that the accuser would have to pay a fee for all of these if their case were not proven in a court of law, or, well obviously, be locked up for years if the accusations were proven false.
/r/MensRights28/12/18 12:56 PM
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u/Memey-McMemeFace posted an archive of the original post. Maybe that will work for you.
/r/MensRights21/11/18 12:28 AM
1

That's your opinion. And it sucks. Found your true colors I see. It didn't take long for that. I honestly don't know what you're trying to tell me here. What you were trying to do at first... No. Unlike menslib apologists like yourself I don't pretend to be a nice guy and I don't compromise on issues. You're a moderate middle-of-the-road pussy that's terrified of looking bad to bad people. When MLK Jr. advocated for equal rights between people of all races, he didn't insult everyone he needed to…
/r/MensRights05/11/18 10:34 AM
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No, your opinions are not any better than other people's, and I'll go ahead and go out on a limb over a pile of feathers and say many are worse. I also didn't put any words in your mouth. You think or at least tell people your opinions are superior. It's also not scary I don't forget a username. I'm saying you can't trick me by playing the ignorance card. I'm not inherently smart, but I have enough brain cells to know you're only detrimental to this community.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 09:17 PM
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Well let's see, you're a troll very easily based on many of your comments, so everything of yours with even a hint of sincerity comes across as against the core of this sub. First of all, you consider your opinions superior or even fact which hints strongly at arrogance. This sub needs to fairness and real concrete evidence because we are for a cause that is considered moot and false by people before they even look for the evidence. Remember, even you just saying feminists want to murder men is …
/r/MensRights04/11/18 08:21 PM
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Well it is an opinion, even if a fact. I was just implying how you are harming any chance of other people agreeing in mens' rights with your denial of your opinions being opinions and your belief your opinions are superior to everyone else's.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 08:07 PM
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Basically, even despite your inferior opinions.
/r/MensRights04/11/18 06:30 PM
2

Could you please explain your point instead of replying to evidence with a simple 'no' or 'nah'? It isn't helping your point at all.
/r/MensRights01/10/18 10:24 AM
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What do you mean? I think they just complimented me in their twisted world by calling me a transwoman!/s
/r/MensRights30/09/18 11:55 PM
3

Yes, yes it is. It basically infiltrates the minds of people who are against male-to-female sexism and white-to-colored racism by twisting the target of the sexism to colored peoples. It's an unfortunate reality, but it is the truth. In a society where news outlets are twisted against white people more than males (since less people are white than male), it is most effective to advocate for men's rights by making the victims of sexism colored men. The underdog mentality of yellow journalism that …
/r/MensRights30/09/18 11:53 PM
1

I saw this and honestly thought it had to be an Onion article, but NOPE. This is just pathetic.
/r/MensRights29/08/18 09:31 PM
2

I don't understand why everyone is losing their shit over this. It makes perfect sense. Not streaming with the sex you are attracted to because a toxic fanbase with harm both steamers' personal lives seems pretty rational to me, and there's no sexism about it.
/r/MensRights15/08/18 11:46 PM
1

A lot of feminists are comedians, intended or not.
/r/MensRights17/07/18 01:45 PM
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