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The problem isn't the fact that the tradcons decide to exclude women like this from their dating pool based on their preferences (which tbh each human being should readily do, because marriage and relationships at the end of the day are initially based off on needs and preferences). The problem is, that these tradcons Or as OP said podcasts like "Fresh and Fit" CHOOSE to SHAME women that do not fit their version of reality as "dumb, irrational, illogical, brainwashed" Creatures who refuse "unive…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:30 PM
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Exactly bro 😭😭😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:16 PM
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Nah it's just that I'm an introvert and I feel more comfortable online than offline. Offline I always have my RBF on (due to social anxiety) and people think I'm arrogant 😂🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:04 PM
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Yeah, but are we connected with our real personas? Because at least personally, I behave very differently when I'm online than when I'm offline and it causes a sense of incongruity because I feel no one knows the actual me Or doesn't even try to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 04:02 PM
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Exactly. We're more connected online than all the other generations yet we're the most isolated and lonely generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:34 PM
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Can you expand on exactly how they're being treated negatively?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:45 PM
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Yep and that's the victim mentality having which, individually, either a man or a woman will never advance or improve in life. Feminists will keep crying how they're the victims and men are privileged and incels will keep crying how they're the victims and women are the privileged class. They'll be so invested in the identity of the gender they carry, that they'll forget that who they're as an individual comes first. Personally, I feel that everyone should be minding their own business first. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 11:57 AM
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Indeed and that's a truth applicable to all people. Pretty privileges exist no matter what anyone else tells you. I never said that it was a lie. But most people don't understand that self care can improve those looks to a great extent. And if you see this entire thread, there are men giving the same advice and I agree with them. Lastly it's not a thread exclusively for LVM it's a question to women for their opinions if you'll see and as a woman I gave mine. Men's sufferings of course matter but…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 09:26 AM
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Kay, thanks 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 09:11 AM
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Ahh yes, that's indeed a good point. Can you point out where I should add the word genuine? It'll help me to edit the comment 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 09:01 AM
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First of all it's not just LVM. It's Low Value People. Ask any man, even a low value man whether he'll be in a long term relationship or marry a girl who's overweight, doesn't have the perfect skin, doesn't have a good personality, has ugly features in general because she's neglecting her self care. Will men f#ck her for one night or be in a short term relationship with her? Sure. But will men marry her to provide her a stable loving home? In most cases, the answer will be no. And even if a man …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 08:58 AM
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I mean that was what was literally asked in the question 😶. "Do you respect the ones who choose to stay alone and dislike the ones who think they deserve companionship the way they are?" When you think you "deserve" Companionship in spite of knowing your low value(again be it a man or a woman) it's usually because you've something else you think you can make up your low value with. And usually, it's a moral compass and "being nice" and doing everything and anything someone wants of you. But acti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 08:22 AM
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In what way they think they deserve company is important. Are they already working on their self esteem, their physical appearance and their finances? If so, they indeed deserve someone good. But do they think they're entitled to companionship just because they "think" they're a #niceguy ? Then, no. It's fundamental here to understand that nobody in this world is selflessly nice, not even people pleasers who act nice(irrespective of gender). People pleasers are the way they're because they don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:54 AM
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Ngl, as a 19 year old woman, this post made me cringe so bad. Like tell me this is a made up story without telling me this is a made up story. 🤢
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:18 AM
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Well not on the other issues, but specifically age gap. I mean I can understand an age gap of 10-12 years(because even we have that in our country), but even more than that? Honestly that's not demonic but definitely a little weird. On an off note, does it mean that a man should be allowed to take younger wives or s*xual partners even when he's getting as old as a grandpa? But yeah body positivity doesn't make sense because everyone is allowed to have preferences as long as they don't shame othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:23 PM
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As a fellow purple pill, I second your opinion! We need a mixture of both and balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:19 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:38 PM
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It don't get to decide who replies to me or not but I simply won't argue with you on a fact where you're clearly not trying to understand that I didn't oppose you but in fact just added an additional perspective. In fact when I mentioned the "dark triad" I wanted to provide just an additional perspective without opposing your claims. But you intentionally turned it into the debate. Seems like you're the one who misunderstood my entire comment and took it in a bad way. No one else did in the comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:21 PM
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First of all I'm not a feminist neither do I identify with their extreme ideologies. Funny how you're assuming everything to intentionally start an argument 😶. And exactly where did I shame men who aspire to be masculine or cultivate masculinity in themselves? Self improvement is the best thing one can do and even natural things need hard work to be enhanced. I just said that men who tend to display a "false" Sense of confidence and security (as in they're not confident or secure at all in thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:48 PM
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Even if it means displaying a false sense of security and confidence to trick or manipulate younger women into believing they're the best options for them to date only to betray them or cast them aside after their use is over? That's not true masculinity. You should watch a few videos of Jordan Peterson where he explains the dark triad(he's a conservatist too with many redpill ideologies which he actually agrees with). However, it seems like my efforts to talk to you or try to understand your pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:43 PM
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No no you're not waffling at all. As a girl sometimes I too feel at least I had a community to identify guys with genuine intentions and those without them. Like Ik for girls it's not as difficult to date as men, but at the same time, we have difficulty in finding partners who genuinely want us for our entire lives and not just for a few months to years(because honestly to me that's a waste of my time and emotions). But yeah it's definitely difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 03:09 PM
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First of all I am single currently 😂. Secondly I completely agree with you on this fact. I like muscular and masculine men and no one could convince me otherwise. Maybe it's more because of the confidence and security they exude because they are comfortable in their masculinity? Idk, there's something completely different about their aura. But, in such cases, I find it difficult to find a man who's truly masculine and someone who's just using the dark triad traits to exude a false sense of confi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:53 PM
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Yes I know that sucks. Maturity is to learn that people irrespective of gender, usually suck because they always put their self interests before anyone else's and that's not inherently a bad thing, but being the "nice guy" Without any boundaries is always gonna make one end up as a pushover with a bountiful of regrets. Been there done that. The worst part is one always feels, one needs to give something to their partner to be valued to be loved and even after giving everything when the partner l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 02:49 PM
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Yes. At least I thought so too. Not deities, but in general it was a thought process like "Men are always gonna be more wrong than women and the perpetrators. Women hardly can do anything wrong ever."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:37 AM
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Because perhaps they hadn't had a specific incident where they could realize that women are and can be as bad as men because they're humans. But I'm just guessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:05 AM
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Yeah might be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:11 PM
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Ik it's his opinion you asked, still budging in a little here. 😅 I think it's because the mainstream media had displayed women in such a character where most women cannot be wrong and are always good whereas most men are the perpetrators. Also the fact that almost all of us do highly idolize the women in our families, especially our mothers. In fact this ideology was imbued heavily in me too, in the past, where I thought that none of the individuals of my fellow gender can commit any wrong (Pard…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:00 PM
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I'm sorry that happened to you. I hope you're healing from it and I pray that you get all the love in the world you deserve. I feel I can relate to you to an extent to, because being from the east and being raised in a very conservative family, inspite of being a woman, the only thing I was taught was to become a morally good person which will apparently make everyone love me. But later through many incidents in life realized that being the morally nice person and the good guy/girl doesn't work …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:51 PM
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I agree with you, I had the same perception. But after seeing the comments it seems more likely they have been let down by many women and people in general in their lives and not just a single person. I think what most people try to do wrong, is to try to prove their own point without putting themselves in the shoes of the other person and be a little empathetic. It doesn't hurt to be a little kinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:45 PM
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Thank you for your time and insight. I completely second to your opinion. Wish you a great day ahead. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:42 PM
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Do you feel like women from the West have become more like the reality you stated? Because I'm from the east and from my observable reality I still do see women staying with their husbands even if they do slip up sometimes and even support them until a certain period of time until they get a new job. Edit : Also don't you feel like you're kinda straight up demonizing women for their needs like many women demonize men for their s*xual needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:38 PM
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In respect to women, what do you think the observable reality is?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:25 PM
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It indeed does. Thank you for your time to interact with this post and provide some insight. Appreciate it. Have a good day. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:36 PM
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I actually agree with most of the things you said. Anyways, thank you for your time to interact with this post sir. I appreciate it. Have a good day. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:34 PM
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Have you evaluated as to why you had such an anxiety before or got intimidated by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:18 PM
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Okay. Please do see that I have made the necessary changes in the question about getting into redpill and not "joining" It. I apologize for my misunderstanding 😅. But on an off note, what are the certain traits about women you discovered which you feel have been labeled as misogynistic by the blue pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:15 PM
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I think I made the necessary changes in the question. I apologize for the mistake in the question. 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:09 PM
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Can you provide some insight as to what changes you actually made in your personality or yourself on a whole which made your game with women better? And how did your views on women change in terms of before vs after?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:05 PM
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Personally if it's a physical glow up you're going through or want to go through I'd say take a break mate. It's better not to hear any negative comments during this phase which might make you lose your motivation.
/r/ExRedPill12/12/23 07:28 PM
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Look I have never been a man and you have never been a woman. So assuming someone else's feelings from the opposite side when you've never been in their shoes is pointless. It's gonna be the same as the unending argument of "I love you", " No I love you more", "No I love you much much MORE" bla bla bla. You assuming a woman loves a man lot less based off on the reels you see on any social media is the same as me assuming that men only love women because of the s*x they can provide based off on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 07:16 PM
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Mate listen to me. The problem just lies in the algorithm of social media. Let's say one day, the algorithm sends you a reel of a recipe to see that whether you react to it or not. Now you're a vegan, but the recipe is non veg. So you open the comment section (the algorithm records this) you leave a hate comment (the algorithm records this too) and you get plenty comments in replies both positive and negative along with likes(algorithm records this too). So from the next time the algorithm tries…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:46 PM
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So basically, the get away I could take from this post was that feminism will ultimately fail because feminists don't pay attention or aren't willing to make changes for men's issues as well and are non-empathetic towards them? So more likely it'll cause men to rise up against women and subdue them like in French Revolution, the commoners subdued the French Royalty and literally guillotined them, because Marie Antoinette asked them to eat cake when they don't have bread? So what's gonna be the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 08:13 AM
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Nah the only problem I have is, it makes dating kinda difficult for us women. I'm neither a feminist(blue pill) nor a tradcon Or redpill. In fact I don't think any pills work at all but I do have an egalitarian point of view of the world. But that's just a pov and I don't let it affect me in real life and my relationships at all. In fact, I absolutely hate discussing any types of politics and ideologies in my relationships. There's much more in life to talk about. About ourselves, our emotions. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:29 PM
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I too, go with the second ideology. But the problem is, as humans, our nature does incline a bit to our own self interest naturally and hence we lack self control in most cases and are quick to uptake self entertaining decisions or actions under the influence of political, economic and cultural institutions, even if it is at the cost of others. As you said there is a minority of wonderful human beings out there, but it's minority for a reason as self control and will power are definitely the har…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 06:36 AM
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Ahh sorry I didn't understand that phrase. 💀 But yeah I'll stand by my point because most people (irrespective of gender) I personally knew or just observed from a distance, in my life, till now, seemed to make choices that'll give them personal pleasure even if those choices aren't exactly necessary for their survival or those choices can hurt others. They specifically choose to mentally torture others for momentary pleasures and I think that is pure selfishness, even though sometimes it's just…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 04:01 PM
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Most posts I see here are kinda red pill and against such delulu women though?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:56 PM
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Your statement just proved my point of humans being utterly selfish creatures. That being said, women like us exist. We just like living in the shadows. 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:51 PM
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Everything's a lie anyways 🥲
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:47 PM
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Just a question out of genuine curiosity : How do women "have each other's backs" when some of them actively involve themselves in an affair very well knowing that their affair partner is married to a woman? I definitely agree on the fact that the man will be more at fault, but then at least, such a woman shouldn't be claiming herself to have "other women's backs" Or of being a "girl's girl" When she was a source of trauma to another woman(stranger or best friend) or even contributed to it one p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 02:12 PM
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Any kind of pill will not be able to make you keep balance in your personal life in my opinion. At the end of the day, it's just about realizing that both men and women can be equally shtty and no one owes you a single dmn. Therefore in 99 percent of the cases, people won't act as you want. They'll judge you on your flaws when you don't wanna be judged, they'll cheat on you when you had specifically stated them to be loyal in the beginning of the relationship, they'll manipulate you in ways, so …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 12:36 PM
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The problem is people need to see sex in one of the extreme lights : either immoral or something to be proud about, when in reality it is none of those. Mainstream media has highly twisted the view of what should have been sex positive (i.e. allowing people to not stigmatize sex to an extent that thay cannot even speak about it in a social frame) to their own definition of "sex positive" (i.e. committing actions without wanting to experience the consequences). You're also right about Brittanny R…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 11:35 AM
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Then that's experience and experiences can differ. I won't argue with you on this fact because just like I had stated in my comment, experiences differ and you can be largely disappointed if you see a person in the light of your expectations and not an objective manner. Then this entire post of generalizations actually has no point. And yeah I'll edit my comment. The examples I stated weren't meant to be generalized rather contrasting experiences to your statements. I should have rather said tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:37 PM
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That's a whole lot of generalizations on the feminine gender. Any source or book from where you figured out about a woman's psychology? Because if not it's nothing but a mere pseudo science like saying the earth is actually flat and we're living in a simulated reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:35 PM
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This is plain and simply sad. In today's world love isn't love anymore, it's more of a power dynamic. I don't see this in older couples whose marriages have survived years. And that's their secret honestly. They don't think who has the upper hand and who doesn't. A relationship, to them, isn't a war of nerves like for people on this sub reddit. People need to learn that they'll have both good and bad experiences in life and when it comes to dating, majority will be disappointments. The simple an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:31 PM
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Then you have pretty normal expectations. Actually most women do have the same normal expectations. It's the expectations which are abnormally high which are shown on reels for "manosphere" Men to rage bait on. And what can the creators do, they also need a form of job to sustain themselves, even if it's rage baiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:28 PM
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40k monthly or annually?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:00 PM
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Okay... Is this a satire?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 02:51 PM
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Genuinely curious, but what to you will make a man truly above average? Like exactly what qualities should he possess to be in that league ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 08:53 AM
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And? There are men too who'll shut themselves off to their rooms, just eating all day, watching corn and not taking care of themselves at all. Yet they'll be the only ones to complain on the internet how they deserve a woman (who's just like an Instagram model- a literal 10 by conventional beauty standards) and will complain about not getting laid and what not. They'll also troll other women on the internet saying they're mid when they themselves are below average. My point is, this ain't a gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 02:13 PM
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Nothing will work for him at this point at least for me personally. I'm saving myself for marriage and in this case I deserve a partner with low body count (preferably less than 5) even more preferably a virgin. I can't simply digest the idea of my future partner having slept with that many women and I won't be able to trust him because sleeping with so many different women does tell me he has less self control when it's comes to sex and his words might not match his actions in the latter phase …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:05 PM
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It's not a post,it's not even an essay- It's an entire thesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:24 PM
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Yes, because people do gossip. If I didn't mention it, it doesn't mean people don't gossip and if I did mention it, it doesn't mean I love to gossip. When people judge(and people will judge, you can't correct everyone's thought process on that), they either do it in their mind or by gossiping behind the target. I feel judging in your own mind and gossiping behind someone's back isn't as offensive as just straight up insulting them in the form of giving "advice". And I'll stand by my statement. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:16 PM
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Funny of you to assume I gossip based on a single comment I made. Even if I don't like to gossip(which I really don't), half of the earth's population still will. I or anyone for that sake, can't go on explaining to them about morality and how they shouldn't gossip. That's a waste of time. If they want to gossip, they can as much as they want at the backs of people, since it's impossible to stop them. But they shouldn't come to give judgments and rude remarks in the form of "advice" Face to face…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 08:54 PM
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Judging someone in your mind and gossiping about it to some of your close ones is one thing.Investing the time and energy to see the redpill podcast videos, looking at the comments, remembering them quote on quote and making a whole as* post about it with such an amount of disgust, hatred and prejudice is another thing. Bro needs some real world interaction and a whole lot of maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 02:43 PM
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Shouldn't that be a choice(or preference) irrespective of gender? There are many women who wouldn't want to date single fathers either, especially if they are romantics at heart and believe in a single marriage throughout lifetime. Or some of them might not want to carry the burden of a stepchild. Same goes for men. But because of your personal preference you do not need to paint people who do not fit into your preferences or don't follow your preferences in such a derogatory light(you're straig…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 02:37 PM
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Sure, but the internet influence is becoming scarier on the younger generation. They don't know how the real world works and assume the podcasts are saying the truth, just after a single heart break or rejection. Many boys I have in my class, have already been influenced by this and see women as nothing more than objects with no rationality of their own always trying to "dig gold" From them and with high body counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:22 PM
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Again that's a statement that generalizes a lot. I can't say all men are s*xual abusers, narcissists, cheaters or follow the red pill ideologies as stated in the post above. That'll be unfair to men. Sure you've met many women perhaps who get the ick from it, but are you sure you've met every woman on the earth and have known their deepest feelings to make such a general statement? Each individual human being is complex and unique with different wants/needs/beliefs. Personally I'll never have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 10:17 PM
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Surely, but it can't be considered a general rule applicable to everyone right? I'm not saying men or women should have delusional and extremely high standards because of which they refuse to settle even if they find a good person to settle with. But there are certain cases(again not universally applicable) where I have seen 10s or 9s(according to conventional beauty standards) fall in love with people who're considered "mid". Now perhaps, they truly fell for their personality or some other aspe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 04:15 PM
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Same here man. 🥲
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 08:09 AM
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K. Thanks for the advice. I'll try that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:25 PM
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Ik that, but my account has been there for 2-3 years.It has a lot of important contacts of my online friends which I don't wanna lose. But how come keeping clicking not interested every time mentioning the reason still doesn't work?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 04:20 PM
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My intention in this post wasn't to criticize feminism. You read the first few lines and concluded based on that. Those introductory lines were so as to provide a basis of my entire post- which was to know more about red pill. Also feminism as I have heard from many others is about gender equality of both genders and not just issues of women. Feminists often claim that breaking patriarchy and toxic masculinity can help men too which might be true to an extent but not completely. That's all I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 04:18 PM
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Except the fact that was never my intention? If I wanted to shame the red pill I would have conveniently mentioned my "statements/assertions/opinions" Rather than questions in an attempt to understand it. There a lot of things that I agree with and hence I didn't mention them. It is supposed to be a discussion and learning about varying opinions of people and not S.I.G.N them as you stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:18 AM
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That was the point of my entire post. To understand it better I put forward my doubts about certain statements I have heard. This was an attempt for a discussion and not to criticize the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:21 AM
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As a woman, I feel that's some very good advice. I think it was kinda a mistake to start the red pill journey from YouTube podcasts than from Reddit? 😅Any ways the answers surely helped me to learn better and I did recently join a red pill women sub :3.Nonetheless thank you for your time and explanation! 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:07 AM
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1) That's a very valid point. I feel if any of the partners was spending time too much with any person from the opposite gender that can cause valid insecurities. I definitely agree with this one. 2) That's true. But in some YouTube red pill podcasts this has been repeated a lot of times. 3) That's a valid point. Especially in cases where a woman is able to earn. I don't think she should take alimony from her partner in case he did something wrong and she asked for a divorce. That's kinda cheap.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 07:03 AM
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Ermm, firstly I'm a woman who is trying to be red pilled 😅. Sorry for not confirming that before. 1) I understand that traditional roles in a marriage usually lead to a much happier marriage than others. In fact I want to follow that in life. But getting proper education, skills are not the same as being too ambitious while in a family setting. I'd happily take on the traditional role in a marriage. One of the parents have to look after the kids and mothers (I feel) definitely do a better job at…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:54 AM
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Except the fact that I'm a woman 😅.... But I'm following the red pill because I feel that it highlights many issues which men have to face in today's society, which feminism conveniently ignores. Besides that, I feel listening to the red pill can also help me to improve my weaknesses where I feel I can cause trouble to my partner. These questions were just an attempt for me to understand men better and to see whether the red pill is truly as bad as some media portrays it to be. But nonetheless t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:31 AM
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I understand your opinions! But please do understand my this post wasn't a criticism to the red pill 😅... In fact as a woman I do agree with the fact that men and women do have some biological roles that cannot be reversed. I pointed out the most extreme statements because those statements kinda made me doubt and I wanted to see whether all men feel the same way about it as is usually said in fresh and fit podcasts or the podcasts of pearl. Nonetheless thank you for your clarification. 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:25 AM
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I can say I finally understand the other perspective now! Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:21 AM
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Thank you so much!! This is a very well rounded explanation!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 06:20 AM
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Can definitely relate OP. This red pill vs blue pill, left vs right ideology propped up even more significantly after covid. Maybe because people were more chronically online and a lot of heart breaks took place amidst lockdown. Some people used that opportunity to spread some poisonous ideology to make it into a man vs woman thing when it's just people with better morals than people with worse morals. Now nothing on the internet is ever NOT about gender. We have successfully created a completel…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 09:53 PM
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