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RedditLiesMore/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 06:55 PM
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Question For MenRedditLiesMore/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 06:11 PM
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Women have never denied the appeal of sexually attractive men, and I really wish men would stop repeating this lie. This is not true. Women in my real life and online have said this. They say that other women think this way too, not only their individual preferences. Not sure what point you're trying to make here...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 02:10 AM
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"Because a few women on the Internet said something, everyone in the real world; my entire life experience in school etc.; and all media; TV; music; athletes; etc. don't exist" What are you trying to illustrate here? There are women and men who say looks don't matter or less important than "personality." You said that it's a lie that women say this. So why would you be frustrated about that? Why would you expect your degree to be substituted for sexual attraction? No, I'm frustrated because the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 01:35 AM
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Women have never denied the appeal of sexually attractive men, and I really wish men would stop repeating this lie. Have you never seen this before? Women in my real life and on Reddit of said that looks aren't that important compared to other qualities. They often say a man's personality is more important. Ofc the other non-looks qualities are important in general but looks-based qualities outweigh non-looks qualities by a lot, especially in the beginning. They absolutely are not okay with that…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:08 PM
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I think the disconnect exists because women (in my life) have often denied the existence of Chad or the salience of Chad's physical features (height/face/skin color) in his outcomes. I'm exceptional in many societal ways but those ways are not important to women. I should've allocated my time and resources to other endeavors to achieve those physical features. Few women care that I'm fit, well-read, and have made over 200k/yr since 25 because (height/face/skin color). Another way we could look a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:24 PM
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Nobody wakes up in the morning and decides "I will feel like shit today because a bunch of women I don't know are not interested in me". The kicker here is that (healthy) men literally wake up with erections. If you don't, you probably have low testosterone. Low leads to low libido and less interest in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:43 PM
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I am indeed a tall white dude. I feel like most of the women in my deck are white women. I think realistically being white in most US cities absolutely maximizes your market size on a dating app. This really cannot be understated. I lived in a nice lower Manhattan neighborhood in NYC for 2 yrs as a fit black dude and it meant little for my success. Would still do significantly worse than a white dude living in the hood with no job. The majority of women who'd like me were overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:49 PM
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In schools with white fraternities, minority ones have way less status
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:31 PM
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No, I always wanted to move but couldn't due job and financial constraints. My mindset that I deeply wanted a relationship never really left. Edit: let me add: I actually moved to a smaller and less diverse city to pursue an outdoorsy passion and my dating prospects disappeared. I've been really sad about it. I'm going to move back to the bigger city so that I can date. But it comes at the cost of my passion :(
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:56 AM
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yeah that's just a result of the same qualities in men and women being valued differently - which is far worse for men. This is why a lot of guys give up. The experience of having to work x times harder than others to get "less" quantity and quality is a tough place to be. Romantic relationships with people you're not attracted to or who have incompatible lifestyles to are unfulfilling and challenging. This is such a universal experience but seems to get ignored when people talk about it. People…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:54 AM
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Yes. Changing my mindset didn't change my outcomes. Changing my environment changed my outcomes. I moved to bigger city with more diversity and suddenly I wasn't struggling anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:36 AM
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Hmm I think you're making the mistake of thinking that all happiness and fulfillment is equal. I could be happy and fulfilled in 1 aspect of life and not another. I've had fulfilling romantic relationships while having unfulfilling and feeling miserable about platonic relationships and vice versa. As humans, we have multiple needs we'd like to fulfill and fulfilling one doesn't necessarily mean our well-being will pass the threshold for fulfillment/happiness. Eating food when you're tired doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:29 AM
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Let me try: Societal and systematic problems aren't really solved with an individualistic mindset shift. An individual's outcomes don't improve just because they've changed their mindset to not caring. You then have to wonder how authentic the not caring attitude is too. To me, it comes across as sour grapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:17 AM
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Not sure what your point is. Plastic surgery and cosmetic procedures like filter/botox are rarely brought up as a potential solutions for unattractiveness. I'm saying that it's a legitimate solution for improving social and romantic outcomes. Also saying: we as a society should be more open to conversation about the costs, risks, and benefits of cosmetic procedures.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 06:55 PM
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A bad thing about the lies regarding the importance of physical attractiveness within the dating world is that it can lead to people allocating resources and time towards endeavors that won't make them more attractive. While my outcomes improved as a result of living in a big city, nice neighborhood, and being more social, it probably pales in comparison to the effectiveness that could have come from jaw surgery or facial plastic surgery. It would have been less expensive too. Ofc there are risk…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:59 AM
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Yeah, those are really important. The effectiveness of your hard work is dependent on your base stats. How tall are you and what's your face like? I'm ultra fit and rarely get matches after quality photos that showcase my body. I believe it's due to my face (huge nose, no jaw, really dark skin).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:46 AM
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Where are you getting this number from? Depending on your environment, you should try to notice who the women in your environment choose and determine your actions after that. You might need to change your environment or change characteristics to ones that women often choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 03:19 AM
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He needs to ask women about their preferences, things they like, and then adapt that advice to the woman he's pursuing. I think you're underestimating how much women are unaware of and lie about their preferences to men who don't fit their preferences. I don't think men should ask women about preferences. Instead, they should notice women's behaviors and the men that women choose. For example, it's easy for women to say that they value xyz traits on dating apps. However, whenever I look at my fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:46 PM
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But there are a ton of other things you can do it improve your chances in dating that are indeed in your control. This part is so ambiguous. No one talks about how much someone's outcomes will change after any intervention. You can "improve" (time, money, opportunity cost) and your outcomes may change by 1%. No one addresses this. Same issue with this: There are also a bunch of other things you can do to be more happy alone. This is a distraction from what the other person is talking about. Not …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 12:52 AM
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I have the social/relationship skills to discuss it now, but it was a real challenge to experience empathy being thrown out the window when I voiced my struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:18 AM
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Definitely happened for me during my relationships. There was no space to voice my previous struggles before meeting them. There wasn't even space to voice the struggles that other unattractive men faced. I would receive defensiveness and dismissiveness very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 07:44 AM
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When I spoke to my ex about how many women I knew had a crush on an angsty/emo animated/fictional character, she immediately denied that he was popular and said that she knew people who were into the goodball/comic relief character. I playfully called her out, and she admitted that she made it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:14 PM
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Once we figure how to make artificial humans grown in a lab that are stronger and more capable than regular humans, there will no longer be a need to feel attraction or to mate. A major factor in men's desire for sex and and attraction is testosterone. I don't understand how how lab grown humans will decrease men's testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:48 AM
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Yeah, testosterone + cultural influences play a huge role in attraction and it's a constant and unrealistic battle to fight all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:46 AM
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I agree as someone who maxed out income, fitness, and location. The range of your outcomes is dependent on phenotypical traits outside of your control. I can date many women who are heavier than me but very few who are a "healthy" bmi despite being ultra fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:43 AM
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Where do you live? This is the norm in places like NYC.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:46 AM
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I gymmaxxed and all I get are compliments from men. Women don't seem to care. Women I've dated don't seem to care. I'm like a male butterface. I'm considering plastic surgery soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:51 PM
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I think it's one of the bigger contradictions within leftist thought. Everyone is happy and okay about talking about how race, class, and gender (phenotypical traits) affect various outcomes (income/treatment/social mobility/health outcome) However, on the subject of dating, it's suddenly free will/bootstrap central. I'm black and have made 1% tier income since college. It would be wild if I went back to the hood and told everyone they could do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:19 PM
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I can partly answer this as someone who developed low testosterone from working out too hard. When I was low-T, I just didn't care about relationships or sex. It really changed my world view and I just wanted to live a safe and productive life. Now that it's back to normal, I feel shitty and worthless because dating and relationships are hard for me to obtain in general. The way to achieve that state again would require an uncomfortable + longer term caloric deficit than I really want to deal wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 12:12 AM
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I actually developed low testosterone from working out too hard during a cut...it does stop your mind from being clouded. It made easy to leave an unsatisfying relationship at this time and made me much more afraid of risk. Now it's back and life is pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:56 PM
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Damn, I have both and I'm dark af...it's been rough depsite being in top toer shape and dressing well
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 07:18 AM
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Can you elaborate on the divestment and what those unhealthy values are? I personally don't have a problem expressing my emotions healthily, but it's frustrating to realize that no one cares. One of the struggles that I have experienced with women and some men is a lack of empathy for my lack of success regarding dating. You say that they'd be happy to help, but I'm met with a dismissal that my problems don't exist or not a big deal. Even within relationships, I was told that everything was all …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:55 PM
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Unfortunately, success in that regard is extremely unlikely. You'll have to become a doctor...
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 05:14 AM
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Idk it feels like an empty affirmation/platitude that doesn't get to the heart of what OP is complaining about. It seems condescending and disingenuous to say that he'll have poor relationships if he's not super fulfilled with his current life. I agree that having your solo life together is important, regardless of relationship status. However, OP is upset that he can't get dates/relationships despite having his shit together. That's a frustrating place to be in. To assume that OP will have a re…
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 05:12 AM
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Who said that any given person is not comfortable with themselves? I don't think OP said that he's uncomfortable being alone. Many people can enjoy being by themselves and still desire a relationship. Personally, being in a relationship helped me focus on my individual hobbies and activities more deeply.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 04:15 AM
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Personally, all those things are great but don't really compare to having a decent relationship
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 03:44 AM
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I've had both high testosterone and low testosterone, and anecdotally, I agree. When my testosterone was low, my standards increased significantly. Only slim women with pretty faces were attractive. Now that my testosterone is higher, I find a much larger range of women who are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:27 PM
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No one who is socially aware will say that. That's an extremely rare thing thing for people to voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:59 PM
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Since I'm liberal/progressive, it was always shocking to me, but it was what it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:41 PM
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My point is that the experience of being black has gotten better overtime. So much so that moving back to a time before the 2000s would be detrimental to the majority of black people's wellbeing. Obviously it's still not perfect today. I experienced racism a ton during my the 2010s.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 03:09 PM
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Do you really think these are the only or even most important considerations in the lives of black people in the 1980s? Have you spoken to older black people about this?
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 02:36 PM
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Better then is still way worse than now. How many black people do you know would return to those times?
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 02:03 PM
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I'm not making any arguments. I only did some preliminary research and found a few references. You can't just choose 1 source, cite it, and claim to have the "right" answer. That's not how research works. I can cherrypick a quote from a number of sources that say the opposite thing, but that's not research. I personally believe hypergamy is a real phenomenon based on my lived experiences.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 10:08 AM
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Nah man, here's the link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergamy I found this psychology today article and it links to a study which says that hypergamy is decreased in favor of physical attractiveness and youth
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 09:47 AM
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There's a whole wikipedia on hypergamy man.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 09:20 AM
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But even then, I have to assume those people have to be white. How many men of color would go back in time?
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 09:07 AM
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You make good points. This is a good post.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 09:05 AM
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I've experienced that a ton in my early 20s. I'd meet a ton of women who'd talk about how they previously dated or slept with conservatives, trump supporters, generally politically right-wing men until those men did or revealed something particularly egregious. These were all highly educated women in a very liberal state.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 01:23 AM
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It happened during my past relationship. My ex-gf was upset that I didn't initiate sex anymore (I would've been down if would've initiated). It made it easy to end our already rocky relationship. No difference with women afterwards because women aren't that interested in me from the jump. I did not care about their disinterest either. It's like a deep apathy to sex and romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 12:48 AM
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I had low T once and lost my sex drive. It changed my perspective on life and I was truly content for time since forever. It made it so that my goals were truly mine and not because of my desire to be partnered. It's like removing a piece of the pie that leads to happiness/frustration and the other parts fill in.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:56 PM
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Fair enough. Genetic material isn't the best word. However, I never used the word elaborate. Choosing something that passes any given threshold based on some criteroa isn't difficult at all.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:09 PM
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And I think we can rationalize why that makes sense. There's more inherent physical danger and cost associated with pregnancy than the act of impregnation that men can do. If the pregnancy is risky, then it makes sense to secure the highest genetic material you can find.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 01:47 PM
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I think your argument would be stronger if you excluded onlyfans. Onlyfans is fraction of women's employment and only a small fraction make real money. Most women are able to enter the STEM field and make bank similar to men. At best, Onlyfans could be a sidehustle.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 01:29 PM
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I don't think that's a significant enough decrease. Also, the decrease of modern T could be explained by comordities such increased obesity. Increased societal obesity is not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:08 AM
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Testosterone is responsible for the psychological experience of desire for sex and romantic relationships. Lack of achieving that desire causes sexual frustration among men. If you decrease someone's testosterone, you can decrease the psychological toll of that sexual frustration. There are risks associated with lower T, but perhaps they can be attenuated through other interventions. I experienced low testosterone during a caloric deficit and strenuous workout program. For the first time in my a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:49 AM
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The problem with pointing out T is that it will have minimal effect after a certain age. What do you mean by this? High amounts of exogenous testosterone has a huge effect on people's ability to gain muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:34 AM
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Actually I'm not thinking about that. From what I've read/heard regarding this topic, the decreased population testosterone can be attributed to increased comorbidities like obesity. I'll elaborate above on what I'm thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:31 AM
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There's too little discourse about the role of testosterone when discussing male sexual and romantic desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 11:58 PM
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It's rough. I got into photography and realized I have only 1 or 2 good angles.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:02 PM
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My friend spent 2k on photos and those photos didn't improve his match rate very much. He still did significantly worse that our mutual tall friend with shitty iphone 7 quality photos with bad angles. Personally I spent 1k+ on a nice camera + lens, learned a ton about portrait photography, got a tripod, tooks some good photos...still have a considerably lower match rate compared to my lighter skinned friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 09:01 PM
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Personally, I experienced none of the negatives during my caloric deficit. I only lost my libido. I was relatively stronger and faster than ever before. I'm considering hormone blockers but do fear that they may cause the worse side effects...unlike my weightloss.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 04:48 AM
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There's too little discussion on this overall. When I had lower T due to my energy deficit, my mind was clear for the first time in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 04:31 AM
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Oof, that's harsh. So what I'm hearing is that it's the parents who often have a problem with it. Is it mostly an older generation thing? Within asian and south asian cultures, it seems like parents' views are really important in general. I'm not asian, so I'm not sure how things have changed. It's not even about it being a "problem". Preference for whiteness is because it offers more benefits than choosing otherwise. To be honest, I don't feel the people around me that I know put a premium or v…
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 08:46 PM
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So are you saying people do hold this thought: they don't date white guys in their head, but socially won't say it out loud as much compared to say, openly saying they won't date an Asian guy? No. I'm saying that people rarely reveal who they desire to date/not date verbally in regards to race. Both are social faux pas. Saying who and who you won't date out loud in regards to race risks social criticism, . Sure, I'll look at that screenshot if you're willing to share. I'll PM you. See, this is t…
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 07:18 PM
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If you think that west coast liberal women want black men, you are delusional. You should go outside and let us know how often you see black men with attractive non-black women or even their looksmatch.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 06:45 PM
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I've never heard any women openly say they don't date white guys either. Actually, maybe once, but that's it. It's nkt something most people say out loud because it looks bad. Can you give examples of minority women only looking for white guys? You have nay experiences with this? What's their reasonging for it, just curious. I have a screenshot example from my 2020 hinge days. White peoole have highest base status in most places in the world, especially the US. In most cases, the closer you are …
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 06:41 PM
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Acutally, yeah. It's really hard to do naturally. I did it by cutting my bodyweight significantly and continuing a gard strength program and starting a new cardio routine... I made a post about it here, but no one can relate I guess. https://www.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/1735s8f/has_anyome_else_here_experienced_low_testosterone
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 12:13 PM
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Attraction isn't necessarily binary. Personally, it's more of spectrum and can fluctuate throughout a relationship and even during the day. Personally, I have settled for people because consistent good sex/intimacy was better than no sex/intimacy.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 10:54 AM
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All it led to was compliments from men. I did/do better than if I wasn't fit, but still just mid at the end of the day.
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 07:15 PM
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One of my fears is that plastic surgery would do little to improve my attractiveness and outcomes. It's annoying that I can only find success in NYC, one of the most expensive US cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:49 PM
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What do you mean by mediocre face? I have a huge etnhic nose, inability to grow beard, and no jawline at a suoer low bodyfat %. I guess I coud get surgery or fillers. Darkest skin? What’s your ethnicity if you don’t mind me asking? Are you surrounded by majorly people who also are your ethnicity? I'm black, maybe a shade or two lighter than the darkest black people I've seen irl. It could be environment that needs changing. Yeah, I can be more successful in places like NYC, but it's too expensiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:42 PM
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Yessir
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:44 AM
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Complaining is a way to vent about the frustration that comes from trying to fulfil a desire that is innate and due to hormones you don't have direct control over. Even if "it's over," complaining can be cathartic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:46 AM
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I disagree. I'm more fit and stronger than the majority of commercial gym-goers and regularly get compliments for my physique and strength...from other men. I used to dress well and also received compliments...from other men. While I'm more attractive than my hypothetical non-fit self, I still do not reach the the attractiveness threshold to be considered attractive by women I'm interested in or even the women I've dated. At the end the day, I'm still the guy with the a mediocre face and the dar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:42 AM
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I looked like that during all spring/summer and have never juiced in my life. It was hard to maintain and I thought about food all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:31 AM
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I dated an Asian woman with a twin brother and I always felt bad for him despite never meeting him. She was able to date and her way more experience than he ever could.
/r/AllPillDebate17/10/23 11:14 AM
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Lowered testosterone severely affects men's ability to enjoy life. Are the potential side effects of low testosterone worse than the certain pain/frustration that comes with being rejected and undesirable to women? I think that's a very individaulized question. second, in my view, men need to do a better job of mastering this aspect of their lives. Mind over matter, if you will - without chemical help. This is where I disagree a lot. Men aren't going to just "do a better job" in the similar way …
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 07:39 PM
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Idk about your solution for men. It's dificult to just "not care" and it's and active and ongoing experience/battle. This is because the innate desire isn't one that you can just will or rationalize away. It's like telling a hungry person or someone in a prolonged caloric deficit not to be hungry and hust distract themselves. Personally, after experiencing low testosterone, I believe a real solution would involve allowing men to easily lower testosterone. I personally did not experience any nega…
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 06:54 PM
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I agree. This is just betabuxx with extra steps.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 06:08 PM
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There's your issue. Checkout /r/gainit I can gain weight/muscle really easily because I love food and overeating. When I desire to lose weight, I become a low calorie volume eater. If you're someone who doesn't eat much, you need to find calorie dense low volume foods. Buy a cheap food scale and start tracking your calories/protein intake.
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 06:04 PM
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Can you give some insight into what that is or techniques used? Is surgery the only option?
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 10:37 AM
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What is facemaxxing?
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 10:31 AM
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It's caused me to ruin both platonic and romantic relationships. I absorbed the internet's and common people's advice to "just be confident" and didn't have the skills to back it up. Often times, it's led to me saying rude or inappropriate things that make people or groups of people uncomfortable. Autism makes it harder to read the room or other people's emotions. I've had/still have to put in a lot of effort to learn to read emotions and generate the proper responses to other people's reaction.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/23 06:49 PM
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165lbs, slim/skinny. arizona. I believe you can improve your appearance considerably by gaining muscle. Being in shape is a multiplier to your base attractiveness, which at 6'3, is higher than most. ive visited chicago many times for family, black women arent into me Chicago may not be the right place for you then. moving is a lot of effort and requires money while im still a college student. Moving is expensive and does cost a lot of money. NYC is incredibly expensive too. In any case, if datin…
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 06:18 PM
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How fit are you and what city are you in? At 6'3, your striking height would give you many opportunities in a place like NYC or Chicago. I say this as fit 5'9 black New Yorker. Indeed, it will take more work that your white peers, but you will be far from incel there.
/r/AllPillDebate14/10/23 05:40 PM
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What things are women saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 01:33 PM
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Yeah I think this where a lot of my general black pill pain comes from. I've put in so much work into my lifestyle, financial, fitness, and social goals, but at the end of the day, I'm just "mid" at best. It sucks to see my chad friends and chad acquaintances do so well for just existing while I toil and strategize a way to get dates with women who'll never feel attracted to me.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 01:23 PM
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Very fit dark-skinned black man with a low-mid teir face.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 01:08 PM
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Which part am I potentially wrong about? My perception or my feelings because of what I perceived?
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 01:21 AM
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Confirmation bias isn't inherently wrong.
/r/AllPillDebate13/10/23 01:02 AM
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The previous time, I covered everything. I covered the food this time and she covered the drinks.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 10:16 PM
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What do you mean? I made the mistake of asking her out despite having the inclination that she wasn't into me.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 08:24 PM
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I paid for half.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 08:21 PM
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I have no valid excuse. I made a mistake. I haven't had a first date for 1.5yrs before her and perhaps my loneliness caused me to make the terrible decision. I have actually never done this before. I appreciate the advice though. You're correct about everything.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 08:15 PM
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Dating app.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 08:02 PM
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Yeah, I feel really stupid for letting this happen. I spent a lot on the 1st date and felt like I needed a 2nd to not feel bad. Now I have less momey and self esteem.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 07:51 PM
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Part of the black pill here is how her attraction manifested towards the waitress.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 07:42 PM
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I appreciate the advice.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 07:35 PM
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So usually a chick will agree to go out for something to do but if she wants to fuck you she already knows lol. This is basic common sense. Yeah, I was pretty spot on that she wasn't interested from the beginning. She also didn't seem to remember anything about me from hmthe first date. Have to somehow develop the ability to illicit a primal attraction. Being funny and intelligent isn't actually impossible as a method but it's high tier skill most dudes will never accomplish. Yeah, I could try t…
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 07:33 PM
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That was my first thought haha.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 07:17 PM
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Yeah, maybe it was just my personality. She didn't really seem like she wanted to be there the whole time.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 07:06 PM
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You should workout fir health and longevity reasons. Personally, I love working out and do it every day. Being fit has allowed me to date more women, but not that much more. I think it's good lmto look at it as a multiplier. Base stats matter much much more.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 05:24 PM
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In my experience, both. All but a few girls I've been dated have waited for me to both relationships and sex. It could be my own selection bias tho
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 07:22 PM
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The reality is that being the primary initiator means facing more rejection. It takes courage to initiate ( or massive confidence and ego to be unaffected by rejection) I agree with this 2nd part. Because they rarely/never initiate, women (my exes) can't empathize with the struggles/fears of romantic rejection.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 10:57 AM
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Dating apps are more efficient for most women and attractive men than social circles. This is especially true if they pay to filter out various qualities. why can’t they seem to just find an attractive guy (chad or whatever) and move on and delete the app??? There are a bunch of hypothetical you can think probably think of. People can be incompatible for a variety of reasons despite being mutually and highly attracted to each other. Also, people who have lots of dating options don't need to "set…
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 10:31 AM
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Which women are you speaking about in particular? I've noticed the reaction in real life from my female acquantainces, friends, and ex-girlfriends. In fact, all but one took the time to understand how I felt about dating and my position in the dating hiearchy. They would readily empathize with feelings about my experience racism and struggles with childhood poverty. However, as soon the discussion shifted to dating, they'd have a mental road block with empathy.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 09:20 AM
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At least number the questions to make answering more accessible and promote discussion.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 09:06 AM
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I think stating facts or feelings about the unfair system of dating leads to people (mostly women) feeling somewhat responsible for the suffering of men. I think it causes cognitive dissonance that leads to projection (victim blaming).
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 03:56 PM
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I always initiated things in my my last relationship, barring a few a occasions. When I had low testosterone and lacked a high desire for sex, and therefore to initiate things, my ex still wouldn't initiate things with me. She got increasingly upset and decided that she was just too shy to initiate things. In multiple relationships, I noticed that whenever I communicated a desire to be initiated with, women would default to this shyness remark. I have met a few women who initiated things. It's o…
/r/AllPillDebate10/10/23 12:22 AM
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Why were your goals based on women rather than yourself? My innate and illogical desire for sex and intimacy. Do you only feel motivated when women express desire? Would you be able to be motivated if a sex worker said the same things? No, I have intrinsic motivation for various aspects of my life. For example I enjoy lifting and earning money. I would not be more motivated if a sex worker said the same things. The source and authenticity of relationships matter. I've noticed that the discource …
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 09:00 PM
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I'm pretty much at the end of the rope when it comes to living and dealing with with my libido. It's really a question of living with health consequences or not living at all.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 10:01 PM
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I don't want trt. I'm already stronger and bigger than most people natty. I just want to eliminate my sex drive.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 09:48 PM
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Thanks for the questions. I don’t know a lot about testosterone but should a low libido mean you have more energy to focus on yourself instead of being fixated on women? I wouldn't use the word energy. But my mental processes regarding dating and my sex life disappeared. The desire for sex + intamacy disappeared. Many of the goals I have achieved in life were largely influenced by the desire to be more attractive to women. Some of these include, living in an expensive city, living a good part of…
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 09:46 PM
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I got my bloodwork done at my yearly primary care doctor visit and requested a test. The test was only partially covered by insurance. I requested it because my libido disappeared.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 07:36 PM
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Yup. I had my testosterone measured and it was indeed low <250 NG/dL. I have not been diagnosed with autism. I don't believe I have enough autistic traits to be diagnosed. I believe I have more autistic traits than average.
/r/AllPillDebate08/10/23 07:14 PM
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I approached a girl in a club, and she screamed. She and her friends laughed after that. That was four years ago, and it still makes me feel like shit. I feel like it was my fault for approaching an asian woman while being a very dark black man.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 01:40 AM
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I went to college during the mid-teens. It was kinda wild to liberal and leftist women desire Trump supporters so much.
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 12:51 AM
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Exoskeletons are still science fiction. This is not true. The best ones may not be cheap, but you can easily buy one today. Also these technological advances are all invented, built, financed, and maintained by men. Ironically, inventions are mostly made by Betas and Incels. So women cannot invent, build, finance, and maintain new technologies? I don't understand your point. Just because men have historically been in charge and have created things doesn't mean women can't. You also cannot ignore…
/r/AllPillDebate06/10/23 02:01 PM
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If we're seriously going to consider a complex scenario such as wartime, we can't minimize or exclude factors that seemingly have a bigger impact that gender ratio. Gender ratio of military is not the only consideration during modern wartime. There are so many other factors such as technology, allies, geography, etc. It's not like women cannot participate in today's modern warfare. How much more effective are all-male infantry units to all-female, or even a 1:2 male-to-female? Infantry has a rol…
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 06:08 PM
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How would society be crippled with less men? When it comes to physical labor, exoskeletons/exosuit can easily allow women to outlift the average man. It really feels like there's no reason for us to exist.
/r/AllPillDebate05/10/23 05:21 PM
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Women who reveal the truth online open themselves to scrutiny and criticism online. It creates selection bias where women who would like to share the truth are silenced and women who lie are the only ones who post. Imagine a post where men ask women how much height matters in dating or individually. Women who say they prefer 6ft+ men or that 6ft+ will be downvoted and called shallow.
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 04:10 PM
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"Millimeters of bone..."
/r/AllPillDebate03/10/23 12:23 PM
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I had low T for a bit and completely changed how I perceived the world and my goals. It ultimately led to me leaving my previous relationship.
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 02:46 AM
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