TheRedArchive

~ archived since 2018 ~

Reed_4983 Archive

View 5 posts and 2,736 comments by Reed_4983 on TheRedPill subreddit and various other subreddits related to The Red Pill community.
Search in:
In subreddits:
More
Filter by year/month:
Showing the 1,000 most recent of 2,736 comments.
Upvotes Comment on Subreddit Date (UTC)
–

Of course being an asshole can be a reason for failure in many areas of life, professionally, privately, in friendships and dating. Being an asshole is like spice in a meal. It can easily be spoiled if spiced too much or with the wrong spices.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:15 PM
–

Finding productive solutions to the problems you mentioned is part of good therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:51 AM
–

What views speficially did you change after meeting your husband, if you don't mind me asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:38 AM
–

Women can wish for whatever mean they can think of. The more interesting question is who they actually date. Going out on the street I see so many unremarkable or average looking men holding hands with conventionally attractive looking (e.g. equally to often more attractive) women it's comical. These men might be one or two of the list of "rich, tall, fit, handsome, nonchalant, suave, charming man" (and most often not rich), but certainly not all. So why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:32 AM
–

A man can improve himself significantly and still find that dating remains harder than it is for the average woman. Note that this is not a view I challenged. I challenge the view that average men cannot afford to be selective or decide not to be the sole planner and financier of dates and having to constantly prove himself. I guess where my confusion comes from is the idea that a lopsided dating market with women in the advantage automatically means most men cannot be selective. I think your vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:51 PM
1

It sounds nice in theory, and in practice, because I experienced it, as have millions of men. Having options merely by building confidence, developing a personality and working on yourself. I'm not a red piller but this part of their philosophy is down to a T. It doesn't matter how many options a theoretical or statistical woman has as long as a guy himself has enough. What you mentioned is having to do "initiating, pursuing, planning, paying, and proving yourself before you even get to the stag…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 09:25 PM
1

Every man gets that chance if he learns to value his singledom. Cause then a woman will have to compete with the time spent with the favorite person in a guy's life, himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:54 AM
1

Hi, I wanted to respond on you on a couple of thing since your points got me thinking. First wantd to see if you reiterated them somewhere more recent, but I saw you have your comments hidden, so I had to choose this 3 month-old thread. Hope you don't mind! As a caveat, I'm not from the US so I can't with full confidence speak about how the law treats men and women differently there, but some of the same mechanisms of course also exist in Europe and, at least here, I don't see a system that was …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/26 12:40 PM
1

Hello! I was wondering where you specifically sourced these numbers you're referencing? Estimated deaths: Men: 400,000 Women: 4300 Estimated Casual Men: 1,350,000 Women: 9500
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/26 10:50 AM
–

You don't have to hook up with a stranger to have sex though? That's only one option...you can also just meet someone in a safe environment like a café and decide if you wanna go further as you get to know them and build trust. You don't wanna travel other countries either?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 08:58 PM
–

Hmm...I don't know what to think about that. I had a good number of really good experiences with girls I met on apps, including all my long-term girlfriends so far as well as several short to medium-term relationships. I'm actually extremely thankful for having been able to connect to some really amazing people through Bumble or (some years ago) OkCupid. I guess I'll have to say it again...individual experiences will vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 08:56 PM
–

Well, if I were you, I'd try it at least once. From my perspective, it's pretty awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:53 PM
–

That's totally understandable. Then again, not all women are wired like you are. Some have kids that are adults already and not living with them anymore, for one. And seeing how many men just completely f*ck up their lives and let themselves go, I strongly believe a 50+ year old man who's healthy, smart and not toxic will always have a a respectable "relationship market value".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:18 PM
–

I see. Too bad you're not seeing any interest from women. With how demographics work (e.g. men dying earlier, older women outnumbering older men, the fact that a lot of men are prematurely aged due to alcohol, drugs, unhealthy lifestyles at 50+) I would have thought men have it easy at that age. And in fact, that's also what my dad told me when he was dating in his fifties. I guess indiviual experiences vary a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:36 PM
–

How old are you and which age group of women are you interested in?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:11 PM
–

Is the right to abortion a social justice thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:04 PM
–

No reason to aim for a comitted relationship if you just wanna have sex with consenting partners for the sake of sex. There's more than enough ways for that as a man. We don't want to teach people they have to have relationships for sex, otherwise, there's gonna be a lot of heartbreaks because people went into relationships under false pretenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 01:46 PM
–

Roughly 67.4% of Bumble users are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 01:42 PM
1

That depends on factors such as the motivation for the killing (was it random or driven by things such as a sexual obsession, hatred for a specific sex or the victim being in a weak position because of their sex). If it was random, I would hope that the punishment was equal no matter the victim's sex, but because of societal and institutional biases (on the side of prosecution, judge or jury), there might be a statistical difference and (for example) people who kill women might receive a harsher…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 01:06 PM
1

You can say that about literally any country because every one of them has severe problems other than murder going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 12:37 PM
1

In other words, do you think if you went out there and killed a 13 year old boy, no one would care and you wouldn't be a prosecuted for murder because society things boys are not worthwhile humans?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 12:35 PM
1

The boy is not into redpill/manosphere influencers, he says it himself, he was bullied by a girl that brought up this shit on him, but somehow they try to convince you he was part of this movement, it's sophism by association The parents mentioned after they bought him his computer, he would spend hours behind it without ever leaving his room. The internet is how many, if not most get exposed initially to incel and manosphere ideologies, so it's very plausible that he found these ideas there, ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 12:32 PM
1

Women's standards vary more greatly than men's, so "mid guys" can find plenty of girls that are attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 12:15 PM
1

What if you just fulfill a large part of your sex drive with porn 'cause it's, in some ways, more exciting than real sex with one partner?
/r/BlackPillScience07/07/25 03:08 PM
1

A pretty (although overweight) woman next to a handsome (but not model-tier looking) man. What point is there to be made?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:22 PM
2

And where does that prove that "not attractive" also means "gross" to people?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:15 PM
0

Have you ever seen the guys some women have as boyfriends or exes? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/24 08:39 AM
1

As for the harrassment bit: Nobody is gonna get into legal trouble for a respectful message showing romantic interest in someone over social media, if that's what you're implying. As for the "non-Chads" part: I don't adhere to the ridiculous black pill belief that 80 percent of all guys are universally unattractive to all women. The overwhelming majority of guys has traits that are attractive about them and can learn to utilize/maximize them even if they lack others (such as: good facial feature…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 02:17 PM
1

But not only Chad's are able to "slide into someone's DMs".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:37 AM
–

Do you have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 03:54 PM
1

If you don't care about the needs or behaviors of other people (women included), you're clearly wrong here. This is a sub about gender relations and how men and women interact with each other in society. That's all I gotta say.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:20 PM
2

Let me explain what I mean...these threads are (ideally) not just about sharing anecdotes and personal views (although that's a major part of this sub in reality) but also about gender-specific behaviours and gender relations on a societal level. The OP was not just questioning whether personality was important for women to find casual sex relationships, he was stating they don't need to possess any attributes except physical apperance to be attractive as mates. In this subreddit, there's many m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:49 PM
1

Well, for any woman who wants to be in a relationship with me, things like being able to hold a conversation, intelligence and mutual values are requirements. So social skills are important for women. I don't get how you don't hold it as a requirement for yourself ("she just has to accept my advances anyway") and "only care about sex" but then seem to complain it's not required from women. You create the problem you complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 02:07 PM
1

I found a hot girlfriend while living in a Western country who never asked me to buy her anything and regularly treats me to gifts, coffee or lunch, even though I'm the one working full-time and she is an intern and master's student. Our sex life is great too. I wonder what I'm doing differently than the guys on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:13 PM
1

Not agreeing or disagreeing with either you or OP, but do you realize you're proving OP's point? He's arguing that people here claim "football players with rippling muscle are already lining up for those porkers and he has little chance" once a guy complains about his dating chances, and you add that fat women have plenty of options, which is preaching to OP's choir.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 09:34 PM
2

Nobody asked but sure buddy, do what you like!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:23 PM
1

The club and bar scene is still around and men still ask out women in real life lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 11:59 AM
1

aside from basic things like showering and maintaining a groomed kept appearing, not dress like a teenager, make an active effort to go out and mingle with people; flirt ask out/rejected by women but keep trying etc etc; Vast amounts of men don't fulfill these criteria yet still insist their looks are at fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:49 AM
1

How are women not fair to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:41 AM
1

"I may not have data for this, but shitty ideology A and shitty ideology B both say so as well" 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:34 AM
1

The thing is, when people criticize black pillers' view on lookism, they are (usually) not saying that looks aren't important and play no role. They criticize that those black pillers take the fringe, extreme sides of the looks spectrum and how those sides have an effect of people - both really attractive and really unattractive people - and assume those fringes are the dominant factor in shaping normal, average dating reality when they're not. Black pillers see girls giggling at "really tall gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:20 PM
2

Thank you! So I guess the same genetic components would also make promiscuous men more likely to cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 07:33 AM
1

I do know that this is something you thought, and I did not miss it but even specifically mentioned in my comment, here is it again: You claimed that you think bald men are preferable to fat men when it comes to ages over 35 Your comment could be interpreted in both ways as I already mentioned, it could mean that you presume they are just as unattractive as bald men or even more unattractive, it depends on the reader's interpreation of it. I acknowledged this twice and will not go into it again.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 07:26 PM
1

Okay, let me explain. You claimed that you think bald men are preferable to fat men when it comes to ages over 35, but you weren't so sure that this also applies to men in their twenties, implying that with those men, bald men might be even less attractive or (depending on how you interpret it) just as unattractive as fat men. I disagree with the first statement because, while being fat signalizes being unsporty and unfit and thus not being masculine, a bald guy can still be very fit and even ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:36 PM
1

Well, it's kinda weird you assume that among 20 year-olds, fat might be preferable over bald. Y'really think the same women who reject a dude cause "ew, he's bald" would be totally fine with dating a fat guy? I mean, it depends on what we call fat, but I'd assume a fit guy beats a fat one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 04:11 PM
1

Because fat men in their 20s are so attractive lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:31 PM
1

Considering the pink pill view, what would you say to the argument that male preferences are wildly varied? Not saying this is true or false - but there's posters here who claim that women don't have to worry about not finding any mate who's attracted top them, since men have fetishes for fat/thin/old/young/big-breasted/small-breasted/short/tall women, as any quick look at the fetishes category of porn sites would prove. So that would mean that while men do care about how "fuckable" a woman is, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 12:27 PM
1

down to the genetic level Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:59 AM
1

Things like like facial structure, height, dick size and wealth determines a mans value. I love how you didn't even think of mentioning charm, personality or confidence lol. Peak male projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:50 AM
1

You don't speak for all men on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 01:49 PM
1

I don't care about that right now. When I see black pillers say stupid shit that might produce or reinforce fear, bitterness or depression among younger, inexperienced guys (like "no woman will ever love you if you're not tall/handsome/rich/white") I will call it out as the pseudo-scientific, cultish BS it is. Because I've been that inexperienced, impressionable guy once and will do my part to call out one-sided misinformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 07:20 PM
1

Oh, absolutely. Men are so diverse in their personalities, desires and goals and a lot of them fall in love with unspectacular women and even have families with them. I see it every day. But this sub is all about "women are pretty shitty and men have it very, very, very hard in life" so this does not need to be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 09:09 AM
1

Sex is not a need in that you will die if you don't get it, but many men want and desire it a lot. So one can say that men want women more than women want men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:30 PM
1

Like I said, it's useless cause nothing will convince black pillers that women are shallow hoes who care about nothing but looks. Surveys that shorter guys have similar partner counts than taller ones? "Those guys are probably lying." Data about people getting married, having kids? "They're being betabuxxed by evil harpies."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:56 PM
1

Stats, surveys and studies are useless. Okay buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 12:20 PM
1

Even in a small sample of 10, you get the same average (and mean) whether everyone is 5’5”, or there are 25-30% complete outliers with a number of people still in the central zone. This seems like another very odd statement with little to no connection on what we where talking about. Human height is based on a normal distribution (a regular bell curve) with around 68 percent of all people being within one standard deviation from the mean. Average height is also largely influenced by people's her…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 10:29 AM
1

I mean, yes, it's anecdotal, but for a reason. Another common complaint from black pillers is "women say that height/looks aren't important but their own boyfriends are all tall and good-looking". So it seems appropriate for a woman to bring her relationships into the discussion to disprove that. In addition, it's impossible to convince incels and black pillers with actual stats, because they have flimsy explanations for everything: "Short men being in happy relationships doesn't prove anything …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:45 AM
1

Higher sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:15 AM
2

Average height is 5'9.5 in the US and 5'10 or above in many European countries, so all of those guys listed are below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:48 AM
0

Your statement was odd to begin with tbh. The average height of Canada is roughly equal with that of the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:08 AM
1

Plenty of men on this sub insist that not only do women want a partner that's taller than them, they also want a man that's above average height. She's proving those people wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:07 AM
2

I didn't perceive it as spoonfeeding. It was an exchange of views. Thanks for the conversation.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/22 10:38 AM
-5

I mean, there's always shitty and condescending people who actually say things like "wow, for a girl you're really smart/talented/good at science" just as there's people who take offense with a compliment that truly comes from heart (even though it might be worded incautiously). The women I've been with always appreciated compliments I gave them about their talents and even their looks, although those weren't random women I cold approached. I get that random complaints or approaches from strange…
/r/ExRedPill07/07/22 08:56 AM
3

Panel 3 should be a totally valid and acceptable compliment though, no? It doesn't refer to anything with one's physical apperance.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/22 07:55 AM
-5

Not exactly a 100% equivalent, is it? The difference is that a straight girl could in theory be attracted to a random guy giving her compliments.
/r/ExRedPill07/07/22 07:01 AM
1

I still don't see where the problem is. Women on average pay less tax dollars because they are more likely to have kids and take on unpaid labour in their household, caring for kids and older family members and even their spouses. They require more resources from social security because they have higher life expectancies, and being old usually requires more care and money. The welfare system of the US is, to my knowledge, meager, I'm not American and not in favour of cutting social security for …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 10:18 AM
1

Women worldwide have less children than ever in human history. We've got 7.5 billion freakin people on the planet. We're suffering from global warming and an overpopulated earth with billions of Chinese and Indians who would like to have an American standard of living once they have enough money to do so, with all the problems that will bring. We don't need mothers with loads of children right now, and probably never again. We could have the current children per woman rate for the next 500 years…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 08:58 PM
1

There are countries where women work less hours because they are women. Lots of such countries, in fact. "Well it's because they look after childr-" - WHAT CHILDREN?!!! Over 80 percent of women in America will have children in their lives, so if women leave the workforce or start working part-time, of course it's mostly to care for children, the household or their family - all largely unpaid work. There are women who marry a rich guy and then don't have kids (thus "paying" with their youth, beau…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:32 AM
1

Yeah, sure, message me if you have something. I'm curious what it would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:10 PM
1

IIRC, men swipe right around 40% of all times on Tinder. So an average women cannot expect to get right swiped or match 80 percent of all times as you presume.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 09:05 AM
1

Do we really have proof that women tend to do this more than men though? From a quick glance on the street, you will notice a lot of men holding hands with women more attractive as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:58 AM
1

The match rate is insufficient for what we're discussing (although I would be curious where your data is from, I found no official app sources from a quick google), since we don't know which percentage of matches lead to an actual date from it. We would need survey results or GPS data from Tinder or sth like that to make an accurate assessment. And even then, we would only know how long it takes for the statistical average man to find an actual date. We still wouldn't know the potential of the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:17 PM
1

A month or two of "dedicated swiping" (which can be, let's assume, 50 swipes a day) equals around 1,500 to 3,000 swipes. While we don't have data of the average man (whatever falls under that definition) and his online dating success, I wouldn't agree with this assumption. If an average, young guy is not a completely antisocial neckbeard, he will not have that much trouble finding a date from OLD, although dry spells can be a thing. But that's my two cents.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:31 PM
1

It still does not compute. 1 reply a day, even with a lot of swiping, is far from "months or years for a chance to talk to a girl".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:08 PM
1

The delusional thought that light eyes are universally more attractive than dark eyes lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:15 PM
1

That doesn't prove they're the most attractive type of woman for all of these men. Many men will sleep with women they don't find particularly attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:05 PM
1

OP did say that he was not talking about spineless betas when he meant "nice guys", but he failed to prove this was in accordance with the common narrative. He argues feminists and women keep accusing normal, well-regulated guys who just happen to have a kind personality of being spineless, manipulative betas, because all those women secretely despise normal, well-regulated guys with a kind personality (instead of spineless, manipulative betas) without actually making a sound argument about the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:34 PM
1

boundaries/assertiveness/banters/addressing shit test No blue piller says that these things are "asshole" things. Leaving a woman when she doesn't want sex can be morally questionable or even manipulative though, depending on the cirumstances. Like for example when the man helped to frame the relationship as more than just a sexual one or told her he loved her, and then leaves once she's not in the mood to sleep with him once. I depends on the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:22 PM
0

And what would those female friends say about your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 06:35 AM
0

Yeah, that's honest and at least shows what you believe. But what would your mother or female friends, if you have any, say about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:17 PM
0

I mean, why beat around the bush with all these arguments...why not just say what you believe: Women suck?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:04 PM
8

I mean, why beat around the bush with all these arguments...why not just say it: Women suck?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:04 PM
1

Jesus Christ 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:52 PM
1

I'm sure they'd deny it while still falling in love with strong, masculine, possessive men. Not all women want a possessive man. Not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:47 PM
1

Yes, morality and ideology do play important roles in the choice of romantic/sexual partners for many people. Many (female) leftists, for example, will refuse to date or sleep with neo-nazis, with some even saying it's a big turn-off.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:22 PM
1

It's simply not true that men do not slut shame. During my own high school years, I remember how guys literally talked about one girl in our class who was supposedly easy and called her the "school mattress". Internet comments coming from men who slut shame famous women also exist in the thousands. And women also report it from their personal experience, some of it coming from bitter, rejected men: 100% of the people who have attempted to slut shame me have been men I've sexually rejected. Lastl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:11 PM
1

Or, to be less negative and more realistic: work out, improve yourself, don’t put women on a pedestal, and by all likelihood you will have not only one, but multiple partners and some amazing experiences over your lifetime. Most men in the world do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:46 PM
1

A woman can use her orbiters even without explicitly telling them that she will reward them with sex or a relationship. If she manipulates their feelings for her and uses that to her advantage, that's literally taking advantage of them. She doesn't have to literally promise them sex. If you disagree then tell me, if a man were to date a woman and were to lead her on for years, dropping hints that he'll give her commitment or even marriage while using her for sex and dropping her the moment he fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:21 PM
2

Most women aren't saying they are more compassionate or wonderful than men either. It's silly societal ideas perpetuated by media outlets, opinion leaders or cultural products but not something women say by a majority. Some women might say this, but there's also men reproducing chauvinistic ideas about male superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 03:44 PM
1

Also male opinions don't count in this society. Wrong, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 03:14 PM
1

Cause you know how busy all women on the planet are?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:42 PM
1

Kinda easy to miss something among all the incoherent gibberish you're posting even with perfect reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:42 PM
2

Why the feck would you think I write here to "impress women"? I'm sorry I don't get your weird argument: "The women on PPD are clearly not the norm and are not desirable" "Could you say the same thing about the men on PPD?" "You clearly ask this question only to protect the honor of E-LADIES." ?? Ah, so your argument is that incels are not the norm but other men on this forum are. Okay buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:17 PM
1

"You took 4 hours to reply to my text yesterday. Fuck you, we're no longer friends!"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 01:44 PM
3

Woaaah haha. Didn't know I would see the term "fedora" again after 2014. But seriously, isn't it a valid question? If the women on here are far from the average population or the average Stacy or whatever, why should the men be normal? I guess there would be some genuine Chads here, but a large part of this user base who reproduce whatever crazed opinion they have about women ("Getting a match on dating apps is nearly impossible for most guys" is what I read on PPD once) can't be "normal"...can …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:52 PM
1

Okay, then I will apologize. It just sounded like it was coming from the perspective of an inexperienced male. Either that or I misunderstood your comment. Because in my experience, when being with a girl you're dating or you're in a relationship with, she will absolutely make you a priority when it comes to hanging out, planning mutual activities and inquiring about your well-being. It's just a natural thing to do for girls and guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:33 PM
3

Does the same count for men? Are men who care to engage in gender politics and subreddits like Purplepilldebate also far from the norm, and not "the handsome men that have multiple options"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:25 PM
1

Boy it sounds like you've never had a girl fall in love with you 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:20 PM
1

If they don't reply to your texts just call them for christ's sake. It's what I always do when friends don't reply cause texting back is more easy to forget, it's less personal and it's an artificial form of communication anyway. Don't take it so seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:19 PM
1

Do you regularly not see or talk to your fiance for 3 days straight? Are you in a long-distance relationship maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:17 PM
1

What if she regularly sleeps with me and says we're dating, but she still regularly takes 4-5 hours to respond to a text from me? What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:10 PM
8

Male friends, male relatives, and even a lot of women who have shorter brothers, sons or boyfriends will give her shit for saying "men under 6' are useless".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:41 AM
5

Despite data that shows women functionally won’t date a man below 5’7” There is no data that shows that. There is data from surveys with women saying they don't want to date men of certain height. But saying ≠ doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 01:52 PM
1

I would never want a LTR with a woman who's unwilling to split the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 01:49 PM
15

Widely accepted? In which universe. Any woman who says this in a normal, real-life context will take shit for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 01:24 PM
1

Only someone with the name neolib-cowboy would say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 01:23 PM
1

Which are the anecdote-based opinions?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:10 PM
1

It will not only make her more "handy", a woman's personality, life choices and life trajectory can make her an all around more interesting, fun and exciting human being. If I'm in a relationship with someone (and that can even be a relatively short-term one, like one that lasts a few months), I'll like being around her more if she has interesting things to say or we can talk about interesting stuff, or share common interests. And this increased fun of her being around can lead to better sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 11:31 AM
0

The pro life movement couldn't get where it is without as much support as it has from other women. Even if women support or maintain it, a law can still harm women on a systematic scale and thus contradict the idea that it's part of a gynocentric society. Red pillers also complain that divorce and custody laws are gynocentric and misandrist, for example, even though male lawmakers, judges, lawyers and police officers support and enforce these laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:38 PM
1

It will be a big deal for women who are too poor to go to another state for an abortion (and of course, those poor women are more likely to have an unwanted pregnancy and can only offer an unwanted child a shitty upbringing when it comes to finances). In addition, some states have tried to pass laws that make going to another state for an abortion illegal for people assisting in the move. In any case, even if it will not harm most women and will only be very shitty for some women, it contradicts…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 04:32 PM
2

It certainly contradicts their view, which is: Those in power (Politicians, authorities, moral leaders, structures like modern societal norms and values) do everything to make life for women easier at the expense of men, while women still complain they are the oppressed ones. Abortion becoming illegal is not compatible with the idea of a 100% gynocentric society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 12:10 PM
8

Now that Roe v Wade is gonna be overturned, I wonder if red and black pillers who have been insisting that "Western societies are gynocentric" might realize they were not completely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:42 AM
1

"TRP isn't misogynist."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 10:27 AM
1

Then the solution for men is to become part of the ones in demand. It's possible even without Chad genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 11:47 PM
1

/r/TheRedPill has 7 times the subscribors of FDS despite being quarantined. Seems to me that misogyny is a more widespread phenomenon than misandry going by reddit numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 11:44 PM
1

Those waitresses have a lower base salary than any FedEx worker, no? It's men who give them tips because of their looks, and that's on those men to decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 11:37 PM
1

RDJ is one inch shorter than Tom Hardy. So it's a bit weird that you consider one to be unremarkable in regards to height and the other one "incredibly short". Hell yes there's many women who consider Renner or Ruffalo hot. Them being popular and attractive will lead to this result. There's definitely a market for men who convey a boyish, cutesy, unconventional or even effeminate form of masculinity. Just think of people like Harry Styles, Johnny Depp or Dustin Hoffman when going back in time. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 07:36 PM
1

Such as? Okay, naming just the ones that have been in Marvel movies of the last decade: Robert Downey Jr., Mark Ruffalo, Tom Holland, Tom Hardy, Jeremy Renner. There's more actors playing significant roles, but I don't include them since they're not portrayed/seen as conventionally hot (one example is Kurt Russell who was in Guardians of the Galaxy and played a god despite his height, but he was old). I normally dislike Marvel movies but those were just a couple from memory/some Googling lol. Na…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 02:32 PM
1

There's many Hollywood celebs who are anything but tall but are seen as attractive by loads of women. If anything, Hollywood can prove that there's more to male attractiveness than "big, tall & strong" since personality (charm, wit, seductiveness, dreaminess), demeanour and voice along with a great style can move mountains, and yes, looks matter a lot, but they go far beyond the alpha caveman physique. It's honestly weird that you lambast a poster here for NOT noticing a celeb's height when in f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 02:13 PM
1

Go for coffee on dates 2 and 3 as well. Always split the bill. I don't understand why men in Western societies still pay for dates, and then complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 10:52 AM
1

With your current viewpoints, no you probably shouldn't. I stand by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 03:34 AM
1

Well, I think you seem to have the same viewpoint as OP....that any relationship is absolutely pointless and wasted time if it didn't last until you and you partner die. That's just not something I can share with my viewpoint and my own experience. But then again, it's totally within your rights to believe so and probably best if you don't enter a relationship. It's also probably wrong to assume that if a relationship ends, your partner "never really had the intention of staying"...I imagine mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 09:48 PM
1

I didn't "guilt" anyone, I simply stated what a person who argues that "the guy who is fucking a desperate woman is winning compared to the guy who gut broken up with" would value, in my impression. If sex is extremely important to you, that's totally fine, just be honest about it. The comparison is very weird to begin with, you're taking the worst moment from a relationship oriented person's life comparing it to a lucky moment for a casual sex oriented person to claim one is better. But both pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 11:24 AM
1

Women are saying a lot of "but relationships are awesome", but irl the guy who gets to fuck a depressed girl right out of a breakup is winning waaaaaaaaay more than the guy who got broken up with. Said by someone who only values sex when it comes to relaitonships with women. Most men are not like you, so they will also care about other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 08:58 AM
1

Ask any evolutionary psychologist and they'll tell you men greatly value beauty, good genes and youth in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 07:16 AM
1

they'll reject every man that they don't immediately think is attractive enough for them (even if said man would be a good partner). Men also reject ugly women even though they might be great partners...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 10:31 AM
3

Being killed is worse than being raped because in the second scenario, you at least get a chance to recover, live and thrive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 09:00 AM
1

I mean, that's absolutely fair. People who want marry should get with other people who want to marry and the same goes for those unwilling to marry. Probably better for your hypothetical boyfriend to find someone else as well, if he doesn't like marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:10 PM
1

A couple fucks a semester, or a fuck every quarter of the year, is not sexually active. Yes, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 02:33 PM
1

Past generations had more partners than millennials and people who are young right now. It's a well-observed phenomenon for several years, actually. Young adults go out less and have less partners on average - and yes, that includes women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 05:22 PM
1

6/6/6 is not the "ideal man" for a lot of women out there, one reason being that most of the world adheres to the metric system lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 09:59 PM
1

He could also be a TGHOW (troll going his own way).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:33 PM
1

Women in relationships tend to be unhappier than single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:11 PM
1

And probably need to learn foreplay, if that's happening to you on casual hookups. You missed this: He will say it's not concerning him because he has constant and amazing sex with lots of hot women. With dudes like him, they are quick to complain that the average man goes through hell coined by loneliness and starfish sex (and it's women's fault), but they are always hot Chads who don't have these problems, they just happen to observe other men having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:55 PM
1

no permanent option to fully restore your hairline. Hair transplants?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:30 PM
1

Many women will absolutely find a man attractive based on the overall impression he has on her when meeting IRL. Looks, voice, personality, charm all play a role in this subjective perception of a man, and it can be independent of other men. Otherwise shorter or poorer men would never find anyone who likes them, which is obviously false. A woman isn't going to be charmed by a man and then lose attraction after she thinks "hmm...he's only in the 32.45th percentile of height and 48.6th of wealth f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 12:07 PM
1

And no source to your wild theories was ever given.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:26 PM
1

That's the most low IQ hyperbole I've seen for quite a while. You don't need pay a lot for dates, nor need you spend 10 dates. I've gone for coffee dates going Dutch for every date I've had with a girl. Going for walks and inviting them to your place is (or going to her place) soon after are cheap alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 12:23 PM
1

Chad will flirt with Stacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 11:49 AM
1

Would honesty and acceptance really help though if it's linked to a trait that someone cannot change? The reason why I'm always sceptical when people meaning to give life advice say things like "Women care about looks, you must accept this and move on" or "Women find height/looks/wealth attractive, only if you take the red pill and accept this you can truly be content" is I don't get how this acceptance truly works. Let's say a guy on the mission of self-improvement and getting laid more/finding…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 09:24 AM
1

“Dude, you cannot just ask out hundreds of women; word is going to go around that you’re a creep, and women can smell desperation! Plus, they have their own lives; who are you to bother them?” Who actually says these things? Who says it's not acceptable to learn socials skills, grooming or working out to get better chances in dating? Aren't you just straw-manning?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 12:16 AM
1

But what would your mom or sister whom you love so dearly say if you told them your opinion that "female nature is narcissistic" or that women should be thankful to men for building a modern and safe society, and that everything they see is the result of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 08:59 PM
1

Sometimes the signs are there, sometimes they aren't. Sometimes people don't know how to spot them and sometimes they just fall in love an ignore them. Everyone has the responsibility to protect themselves from abuse IMO, but the fault is still with the one abusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 07:08 PM
2

You can strive to master your emotions and still find support in your partner and give them your support likewise. Someone who strives to master their emotions is what any self-respecting woman, and man, should look for in a partner. I don't see any double standard in u/globalholiday5090's comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:07 PM
1

Did you actually read the famous OkCupid study?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:30 PM
1

Black pillers: Look, these studies prove what I believe. Facts over feelings bloopers. Black pillers about studies that don't prove them right: "Studies clearly show...." zzzzzzzz
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:12 PM
1

And yet, there's many successful short men who generate a lot of respect from other men and even sexual appeal among women. Height is an asset like many others (looks, intelliengence, skill, carisma, strength, health, youth) and can be beneficial if used right, but might still not stop a man from fucking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:08 PM
1

Lol science bad, feelz good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:58 PM
1

Studies clearly show that men place a greater emphasis on their partners looks, but sure, keep living in dreamland.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:55 PM
1

How do you know she didn't stop sucking his dick after he started becoming violent? How do you know she doesn't keep having sex with him because she's scared, and afraid he'll become more violent if refused? How do you know she doesn't stay with him because she still loves him despite him becoming violent, because he's super sorry afterwards and promises he'll change? (a very common pattern in violent relationships) Yes the most logical behaviour would be to leave an abusive partner and never lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:14 PM
1

Just as men love hating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:56 PM
13

Purple pillers: Why are women so cruel? Stop shaming male incels. Purple pillers: Look, it's a 16 year old woman who has trouble with boys, let's shame her lol femcel in the making.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 04:56 PM
1

Sad but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 03:21 PM
1

Judge them all you want but it's the murderer doing the actual murder. Female killers also get love letters by male fans by the way. When are you condemning them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:44 PM
1

Women sure can incentivize men out there but the responsibility on some action still lies with the person committing it, at least in the adult world lol. Especially when it's things like becoming a murderer or changing your sex to get access to sex, which 99% of women will find anything but attractive. Also, it's men who have a higher sex drive and do crazy things to get pussy, so you might also argue it's male libido helping to create a clown world. Additionally, if we blame men's weird behavio…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 08:00 PM
1

Good job women for creating this clownworld. LOL so everything is women's fault, even when men do it. Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:26 PM
1

Just wanted to point out you used a 100 year old source to claim mothers from 40 have kids with a 10 year lower life expectancy and didn't put this out on the open from the beginning. A pretty silly thing to do if I'm concerned. What is your stake in this personal campaign against older and "dominant" mothers? How are you hurt if some women aged 40 become mothers? Are you genuinely concerned about the well-being of society, or do you want to stop women who slept around with Chads in their youth …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 10:04 PM
1

Societal structures, ideas around raising kids and family life and the quality of life and health care have changed massively pretty much all around the world over the last 103 years, I don't see how a study from 1918 would be relevant to any extent today when it comes to the question when a woman should have a kid or whether "children of too dominant mothers suck".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:37 PM
2

Okay, but can you quote the part where they found the life expectancy of kids born to 40 year old mothers is 10 years shorter? There is actually a quote from a study in the link you gave, but it's apparently from 1918.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:51 PM
2

Healthy born children of 40 yo mothers die 10 years younger in average Do you have a source for this? Seems strange as the age of mothers increased over the last decade, while life expectancy also increased significantly because of improved health care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:06 PM
1

There's not more short men than short woman. I don't know what got you the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:28 PM
1

Obese people commonly struggle with hunger surges while trying to lose weight, which causes them pain, fatigue and dizziness. How is that remotely comparable to putting on makeup, which causes no pain whatsoever?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:49 PM
2

"Chad" = any man that is attractive to that particular woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 04:30 PM
4

Consent is a person knowingly agreeing to something, and it can certainly be dependant on other things happening, including payment: "I refuse to have sex with you unless we use a condom." "I will drive you into the next town if you offer me a beer afterwards." "I will only have sex with you if you pay me." Consent under the condition of other requirements is certainly still consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:08 PM
2

How is a sex workers who decides to work on their own will resonsible for human trafficking, or for a pimp behaving reprehensibly?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:51 PM
4

How is it morally reprehensible to have sex for money? Who gets hurt, if all the actors involved are consenting?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 12:44 PM
0

Is the time for private care work and raising kids included in those lifetime work hours?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/11/21 01:08 PM
1

Loud clubs are a thing of their own, yeah. I'd say a regular guy can still catch a woman's attention there because it's not always about "who's the biggest guy with the most handsome faces", because individual preferences are a thing and sometimes people find themselves catching the attention of someone whose "type" they are, but I haven't been to clubs a lot, so I can't really say with accuracy. Bars are different, because you can make conversation and make someone interested in you that way - …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:33 PM
1

Appearance and status are not "everything" in bars and clubs. That's a common complaint from guys here actually - that online dating made things like charisma, personality and sense of humour meaningless and that before dating apps, a guy with these traits could impress women despite not being hot in a real-life setting. Add that to people getting drunk in those settings, which can even make unremarkable people appear attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 04:12 PM
–

Nice ad hominem...or actually nice compliment, depending on how you see it. It's still weird though how the average guy loses his virginity before he turns 20 in this day and age, I wonder how that can add up with "they will not date as teenagers".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:19 AM
1

A woman of color with no chin and an unremarkable face will also have it very hard to overcome her weak spots with good fashion sense - and yet is still well-advised to not give up. You see it as "gaslighting" to tell such people they have a chance at dating, while I see it as infinitely more productive and helpful than reiterating over and over how easy Chad has it. What exactly does the black pill do that is better than "play to your strengths" advice? What can it offer to most men, except tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 11:09 PM
1

How tall are you and what dating experience do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:51 PM
2

I gave you an upvote and celebrate you for being right and your positive attitude. I hope other guys who struggle with their height - especially after coming into this forum - read your comments. The other guy (antonio aurelio) is someone who said he went to Asia to marry an Asian woman because "Western women are all whores" (his words), so you're also the only reasonable poster in this exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 10:49 PM
1

If you truly wanna convince men (on this sub) that this lifestyle is the best, don't call it "being beta". The word has such negative connotations that it's obvious you're not gonna find anyone agreeing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:32 PM
1

Women in the 18-30 range had obesity/overweight rates of about 65% Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 03:53 PM
1

So then they wouldn't really be incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 03:52 PM
1

80% of men will not date as teenagers? Are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 03:41 PM
1

How do we explain 51% of males 18 to 29 being single while, only 32% of females 18 to 29 are classified as single. Who are these younger women fucking? It's either they fuck older guys or they all fuck the same guys. They are fucking men in their 30s and 40s or there is one guy out there fucking 2 to 6 different girls in rotation while another in the same demographic can't get laid even once. These numbers don't prove the 80/20 stat or the idea that Chads get everything while the average Beta ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 03:37 PM
1

The Youtuber BasedZeus managed to get matches and even scheduled dates with, I think, 4 slim women on Tinder using the face of Blackops2cel. If you're an expert in the incel scene, you'll know who that is. He equpped his fake profile with 3 pictures, one that just showed Blackops' face and one shopped image he rode a motorcycle and I think some other picture where he was doing a social/fun activity. He deleted the video later though. So online dating isn't impossible for men as is claimed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 12:30 PM
1

Women only lie when it goes against red pillers' narratives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:36 PM
4

It's red pill men who advise women to do this in this very subreddit, so this post was well warranted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 05:34 PM
1

And how did you make the money to buy real estate, if you don't mind me asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 05:32 PM
1

Do you have the faintest idea how delusional your words are?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 11:25 AM
1

Your original point was that insecure teenage girls have no reason to be insecure because they can get popular on social media and be hit on by men (at least you also seemed to imply the second point). My point is that women also care about other things than attention from men wanting sex. Women with a brain learn pretty soon that male horniness isn't exactly a compliment since men will fuck animals and pumpkins if they have to. Even popularity on social media is a double edged sword. The few In…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 04:22 PM
1

That's not what those women think when they get those likes lol. She gets validation from feeling popular and all those people finding her interesting/attractive/beautiful, not from the thought that a lot of men want to stick their dicks into her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 03:53 PM
1

There's nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 02:32 PM
1

It's a different 2% sample for every woman though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 11:39 AM
1

And how many women swoon over Steve Buscemi? Clearly a minority of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:41 AM
2

Viewing sex as something women give to men hurts men too...arguably even more than it hurts women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 03:02 PM
2

You can also argue that incels' fears of dying alone are unfounded because most men eventually find partners in their lives. But yes, I agree that more media attention is devoted to girls issues than boys issues. This needs to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:59 PM
0

Being hit on by random men isn't the most important thing shaping a woman's sense of self worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:38 AM
1

And yet another day where people on PPD will try to tell everyone that "life is unfair for men, women have it easy (but still think they have it hard out of 'unfounded fears')"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:34 AM
1

Harry Styles isn't particularly masculine looking, be it his facial characteristics or buid. He has a normally wide jaw with good facial symetry, great hair, dreamy blue eyes and a great singing voice and loads of confidence. If anything, his appeal to women can be explained with the fact that he's famous and has social status combined with his looks which are evidence of healthy genes (but not "being able to fight lions") as well as his androgynous style and personality with him challenging nor…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 02:28 PM
1

Might as well get better friends and surround yourself with less shitty people. Successful people live in a world where couples are attraced to each other. Most red and black pillers tend to have morbid and negative views on humans, including "they only look out for their own interests", "they are cold and calculating" and "they are mostly all the same", and I wonder why that is. Not to mention that they shame women both for settling and not settling: if they get together with a normie guy, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 01:08 PM
1

And you think all women act like this? Because if I look around, I sure as hell see a lot of guys in happy long-term relationships with women who, bottom-line, improve their lives. That's somewhat proven by statistics also which show that men in relationships are happier than single men. Then again, I'm not sure whether you're right to complain about this behaviour if you're acting just as deceptive. It seems your conclusion would sound like "people everywhere treat each other like shit, that su…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 12:10 PM
2

It's exactly what some red pillers accuse women of doing: chase the new relationship energy without being mature enough to commit to something long-term that requires effort and work. It's deceptive anyway, if you don't communicate this to the women you're dating. How would you feel if someone broke your heart and you learned they planned to leave you before the relationship even started?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 11:54 AM
1

You might have less sex partners but you get better quality relationships as a good person. People worth spending time with won't spend their private time with bad people, usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 11:23 AM
1

And one man's trash can be another man's treasure, just like in capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 10:59 AM
–

Those same women are likely to only be able to be intimate and physical (and enjoy it) with someone they have an emotional connection with. They might find Chad visually attractive, but don't desire to sleep with him until they get to know him better. So while it's true that many women won't find Joe Average hot for his looks, it's not the same as a typical man finding a girl more hot because of the emotional connection - it's more likely to be an absolutely necessary factor for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:54 PM
–

over 6ft, broad shoulders, around 7inch dick No, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:51 PM
1

That's a very curious and misogynist view, but looking at your profile, I sense that being degraded as woman is a fetish for you? Quite interesting how different people can be for sure!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 10:13 AM
1

Yup, and a majority of women are, or at least were when they first met, aroused in their LTR partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 09:36 AM
1

Or you just find a woman who's fine with going Dutch and doesn't give a shit about your status. I've never paid a woman's share on a date my entire life and haven't had any issues with that. The woman in this comment chain didn't say "but you're getting commitment", she said that she also finds the relationship guy sexually attractive and fucks him. Do you only go in this subreddit to have your view proven, or do you honestly pay attention to other opinions?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 09:18 AM
1

There's plenty of women who need to feel liked and wanted by a guy (what you describe as "attraction") to actually enjoy sex. The "arousal" and desire to have no strings-attached sex you describe is something men only experience with a certain share of all women, because plenty of women learn early that they don't enjoy sex with a hot stranger as much as with an actual relationship partner with feeling involved. If women desired casual sex as much as men, it would be much easier for men to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 08:58 AM
1

Because there's only a choice between "a virgin" and "having spent a decade getting fucked by strangers in club bathrooms". 🤦‍♂️ Jesus, this sub is like the asylum from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 08:11 AM
1

That's not quite true because red & black pillers will say things like women having a dual mating strategy and being manipulative, cold and calculating are biological and inherent traits. They're certainly not only taking about single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 08:06 AM
1

You will never, ever convince anybody a lot of choice is better than none. I skipped the word salad because I've heard those arguments a lot. Most men don't have no choice whatsoever though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:39 AM
1

"This woman dares to look after her children after her relationship happened to break down? What a monster!"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:10 AM
1

In the case of this behaviour, the dichotomy can be "men I don't want a relationship with" vs "men I want a relationship with (but whom I find equally attractive physically)"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:03 AM
1

His proof is from the place where the sun don't shine lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 08:23 PM
1

Yes. I would hate feeling used by a man who I valued as a potential longterm. I would care less if I didn’t respect him as such. Couldn't there possibly be (in some very messed up way that is a product of patriarchy) this lingering thought that you gave the idiot who you didn't care about but slept with, your most valuable asset (= sex, the thing he likely valued the most)? I know it's silly because obviously your body/vagina isn't the most valuable thing about you as a human being, but the idio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:50 PM
1

There is no credible scientific source that says "women employ a dual mating strategy" or something of the likes. Credible sources state that a dual mating strategy is one method used by women, not the only or most common method. A woman marrying a man isn't enough information at all to assert she's employing a dual mating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:41 PM
1

Men did that for decades and all it got them was rejection and getting used. Jesus, the deluded world view that must be the root of such thinking. 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 01:27 PM
1

Girls can pump and dump guys? How is that physically possible? Do you mean they do it with a pump-action shotgun?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 12:52 PM
1

That's not true because the rejected person will have an abundance of opportunities to get selected afterwards, since 83% of men reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:51 AM
1

"Masturbate to in a crazy mood" does not equal "want to date and have relationships with". Do normal men want to have relationships with sheep and anime figurines?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 10:46 PM
1

Even if that is true, men masturbating to old women in porn doesn't mean that older women have it easy in dating or finding quality partners. Men masturbate to animal porn and she-males, it's not really a compliment to have men jacking off to you, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 02:59 PM
1

Some other poster explained it well. A strongman is the male equivelent, and fit is always more attractive than fat. (one is healthy, the other is not)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 10:33 PM
1

Aren't they mostly attractive older women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 10:31 PM
1

I wouldn't use such an example to prove anything (except maybe someone who says "this NEVER happens"). Who is the old woman you speak of?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 10:31 PM
1

The male equivelent to a muscular girl is not an obese dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 02:00 PM
0

women are rarely held to any standard besides a low body fat level Women in social media constantly get judged for having bodily imperfections, with Megan Fox receiving shit for how heir thumbs looked.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 01:47 PM
2

What does it matter? A minority of women can still be a huge amount. 10% of women are hundreds of millions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 01:45 PM
2

Ah yes, because one example proves the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 01:43 PM
1

women simply don't get wet for them. Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 01:34 PM
1

Where's the male erotica about old women with recessed chins?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 01:26 PM
1

I guess you're not here often.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 02:28 PM
1

Oh, the US has its own, large chunk of societal problems present and future, believe me. I'm not too worried about a smaller population. First of all, most Western countries will be able to take on debts to finance their social programs. If it worked for the 2009 crash and the Covid-19 crisis, it will work again. It will get easier after the baby boomer generation dies. Second, Europe also has a large supply of migrants wishing to settle in its territory, which makes me more worried about social…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 01:39 PM
2

What is the moral, good route for a woman who locked down a husband early and is left by him when she's old?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 11:54 PM
1

Of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:29 PM
2

It's ironic that a guy like him who also complains that women are cruelly picky and that men are suffering under feminism is using the toxic gender policing arguments ("you are not a real man if you don't want to continue your gene pool") that make men out there suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:23 PM
1

Well, I feel sorry for your kids that they won't get a cool dad. Keep in mind money isn't everything and can't replace time spent with kids when they are still young. It's a good thing that Europe doesn't have high birth rates, earth is overpopulated as is and humans are destroying their future by causing climate change. It's not feminism's fault that the birth rate declines, as this happens as populations become more wealthy. There is a correlation between a population's negative income and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 05:02 PM
1

Many 24 year old masters students are having girlfriends as a matter of fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 12:44 PM
2

At which point red pillers and incels will call the woman a divorce rapist, gold digger and immoral piece of shit. What is the moral, good route for a woman who locked down a husband early and is left by him when she's old?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 12:40 PM
1

Men desire youth and variety in sex partners. Evo-psych studies and red pill has told us so for years and years and years. It's absolutely a possibility for an aging wife to be left by a successful husband (which is the kind of person RP tells women to marry).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 12:39 PM
1

As a European myself, I know most Europeans would disagree with the ideas you have, such as "35 year old women are not marriage material", "Western women are sluts", "don't marry a feminist" and "equal rights are not beneficial to me, so I don't like them" and attribute them to a frustrated teenage boy rather than a successful adult person. As for the regions you speak of where conservative views still remain strong, the Muslim world and Africa, those are what one could call the loser countries …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 12:32 PM
1

By the time you hit 30, half the men in your age range are probably married. That means the good ones are off the market. That's not a logical conclusion. Plenty of good men can still be in the "30s and not married" group. I'm in my late 20s and a pretty good catch yet I don't know if I'll ever wanna do the marry and have kids thing. Yet I'm totally up for an LTR with a woman who's worth it. Many other good men are also careful and patient on choosing what they want in their 30s nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 12:43 AM
1

Europe is not rife with sharia law enclaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 12:25 PM
1

Hardly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:16 PM
1

The supply of kids to adopt isn't so low that there are no kids available for couples wishing to adopt. At least I've never heard of that before, and I follow societal trends and news closely. If you've got a source for that claim I'll gladly look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 07:26 PM
1

That the right to abortion is "coming back to bite women" is the silliest thing I heard in a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:48 PM
2

Women beyond 40 can still have kids through adoption, and there's also plenty of men out there putting off very urgent decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:29 PM
2

The problem is TRP is not describing many themes accurately, or is only describing some while missing important others.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:45 PM
3

It's their A game tactic to place all the blame for people's frustrations with dating on women, as well as portraying women as both superficial (they only swipe right on Chad) and oblivious (they don't even notice all the good guys who are not Chad).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:53 PM
2

As if there aren't a lot of men who are also unsure whether to have kids at that age! I'm in my late 20s and don't know if I do. You're pretending women are the only ones unsure about important life choices. What BS!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:46 PM
1

Women will get lots of matches in online dating - and a lot of those men will stop replying at one point. That aspect is similar to what men experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 03:43 PM
1

It depends on which part of the world you're talking about Average height is increasing steadily especially in emerging countries that have been significantly more impoverished only a few generations ago, such as Africa or poorer parts of Asia. In developed countries, the situation is different, as average height has famously plateaued in the US since the 1970s and has also stopped increasing in the tallest nation of the world, the Netherlands, for about 10 years. This is assumed to be because t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/07/21 10:00 AM
2

The lopsided gender ratio is a result of both political decisions and culture, which was shaped by men (politics) as well as regular men and women preferring male sons (a societal system that prefers men to women, called patriarchy). Just sayin'.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:13 PM
2

Let met first say that I think your standards are very reasonable and down-to-earth. Something I'm curious about though is why you wouldn't consider dating someone who was shorter than you (while you wear heels, for example). Is it because of societal expecations, because you think a man standing next to you being shorter would look silly, or because of attraction (he wouldn't appear as masculine as you wanted him to if he was shorter)? If it's the last factor, I'm curious if you could be attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:05 PM
2

How can you even comfortably determine that the "several hundred men" you know would sincerely accept being with an average looking woman with an unremarkable body type (e.g. not fat but also not an hourglass figure, uneven breasts that aren't perfectly shaped) long-term? By guessing? Surely not by having asked every single of those hundreds of men? Even if they all told you so, what makes you so sure that many still wouldn't stray because they lost attraction, someone hotter came a long, in hop…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:56 PM
–

If anything, a comment like yours proves that lookism and the red pill are false cause they only account for looks, status and money, discounting that the worth of these attributes can be tattered by a toxic, negative and bitter attitude like you display it. It shows an incomplete truth is more dangerous than a complete lie. I'm 28 and soon to move into my first own apartment (well, my city is expensive!), four inches shorter than you and yet the last girl I've been with let me live at her place…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:38 PM
–

It's mostly men on this subreddit that are saying "guys will fuck anything". 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 03:21 PM
–

I don't quite understand what you mean with "women are actually more likely to have sex with more than one long term partner because of how female sexuality works". What mechanism of female sexuality would cause that? As per this study, women in the US have an average of 4 opposite sex lifetime partners, whereas men have an average of 5. In any case, I think men have more desire to have variety in their sex mates, which fits with the evolutionary psychology approach (that I don't necessarily agr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 07:19 PM
–

more likely to love idealistically Don't forget that men are more likely to desire variety and have sex with more than one long-term partner. (which also fits your biological approach)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 01:24 PM
–

Don't worry. There's still plenty of women out there who want a guy like you (if you're reasonably smart, intriguing and confident, which I assume you are/will be). A lot of the people posting here are quite frustrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 01:22 PM
–

What's so bad about the men you've met?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 12:35 PM
–

Successful men worth their salt don't go after ugly women, so only the frustrated, thirsty guys remain. I don't see how it's leverage for a woman to be desired by men she doesn't even find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 12:07 PM
6

Well I couldn't agree more. It's red pillers who think women are like a rubic's cube to solve and Chad has solved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:38 PM
3

Who might not even be Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:27 PM
2

What are some practical things that you've improved at when it comes to sex? (just curious)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:22 PM
3

How many women have you been with and how many have left you because they "had to tell you what they wanted" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:20 PM
10

Even if the guy is experienced, how can he know what kind of sex a particular girl likes. By trying out things with her, for sure. But that involves doing some things she probably doesn't like, and she'll either tell him that or he'll figure out himself. Preferences can vary a lot among women when it come to sex. Rough sex vs gentle sex or "grinding" vs. "thrusting" movements are just two preference spans. A guy no matter how experienced will have to do some trial and error for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 07:19 PM
1

Lol, of course I do. I'm a shorter guy myself and have met and talked to others. Shorter guys do fine with girls shorter than themselves (and some tall chicks, although I'm not into that personally). It's you who has zero idea if you haven't been in the situation of not being tall (although you sound like a pretty frustrated person yourself, judging from our other conversation when you said you're not having kids cause the state could make them transition).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 02:28 PM
2

Any short man can benefit from self-improvement. I see them every day, going their way in life, and having successful relationships, careers and families.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 01:57 PM
0

Idk, Kevin Hart seems to win at life and he ain't much taller than that. He wouldn't have gotten where he was without self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 11:46 AM
2

Wait, what do you mean with the risks and costs associated for a first date? I hope you don't mean paying for a girl's drinks or dinner, cause that shit isn't necessary. I always wen't Dutch and no girls has ever had a problem with it, god bless the modern times (in that aspect at least). You make a valid point with the world going to shit, you might as well say it's irresponsible to have more children in the age of climate change and overpopulation, yet adoption is a possibility. Other than tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:28 PM
2

That's for you to decide. I'm also hesitant about that decision, but I think it's dope when you turn 60 or 70 and your kids are grown, and you can rest your eyes on them knowing they're successful and happy in life, and you have a lifetime of mutual memories to look back on. Your plates and one night stands won't keep you company in an old age home for sure. 😂 If you are always a good father and provide your kids with all the love and guidance you can, it's unlikely they'll be ripped away from y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:55 AM
2

Well if you want to live all of your life as a bachelor seeking short-term relationhips (do you?), sure, don't be the stable guy. If you at one point in your life desire to be a father, what better option is there to do it with a woman who loves you and has her shit together, with the same goals? Surely you must see that your kids will have the best chances if raised by two parents who are successful at life. This might not be your goals but a lot of men who you'd call alphas agree (Cristiano Ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 07:18 AM
3

Well then I wonder about all the women who happily marry stable guys they fell in love with and create a family with them. Being a bad boy is certainly not "hot" if you have kids and jobs to take care of. It's not like the divorce rate decreases if the guy cheats (because he's such a bad body). That's one main factor of divorce on the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 04:00 PM
1

I never heard the term 'mark' used in this way, not in a dictionary nor somehwere on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 03:43 PM
1

It's just a logical conclusion of evolutionary behavior. That's not scientific evidence at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 11:40 AM
1

That's not what the comment above you said lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 11:39 AM
0

Lol, you can't win with black pillers. "I wouldn't wanna date the short guy." -> "Black pill confirmed, guys" "I would wanna date the short guy." -> "She's virtue signalling, black pill confirmed, guys"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 11:38 AM
1

True words.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 11:35 AM
2

What parts of the red pill do you disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 05:14 PM
1

Feminism and equal rights are big in Europe, I don't know who told you that "men in Europe keep their women in check" (whatever that's supposed to mean), but it's bullshit lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:42 AM
–

I don't see how your comment relates to mine. I was referring to the poster who claimed women reject men for what they can't change (height, bone structure etc.) whereas men are more "noble" and only reject women for what those women could change - which is false, as men do reject women for unchangeable characteristics also. Nowhere did we speak about women supposedly being deceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:05 PM
3

Men reject women for what they can change Because no man has ever rejected a woman because he found her face too ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:09 PM
1

If Uncle Sam determines your hoe phase is causing an issue for society, you're getting a burqa. Everything is illegal or not until it isn't; plain and simple. This goes against the very fibres of the ideas the United States, humanism and Western liberalism was built on, but okay, keep believin' 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 03:05 PM
1

I specifically stated that both men would be found equally attractive by the same woman. There would also be no resources involved, which is part of the BB situation as imagined by red pillers. The idea of AF/BB doesn't describe a huge chunk of human relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 02:29 PM
1

Wrongly so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:10 PM
1

The girlfriend of chubby 35 year billy beta, 33 year old chubby "Jane Unremarkable", will also not be as lusted after by Billy as the hot 19 year old chicks in the porn he jacks off to. So it's not like women are the only evil gender to LTR people and lust after hotter people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:36 PM
1

I mean, it might also be two equally attractive dudes in different situations. One happens to meet the girl while she's looking for a relationship with a guy she finds sexually attractive, smart, kind and charming while the other happens to meet her while she's not looking and won't say no to a night of fun with an attractive guy she's just met. She might also want to sleep with relationship guy but be willing to wait a bit, for different reasons: she thinks it'll be more "special" they have sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:30 PM
1

Guy B doesn't get the wildest sex if he's just a stranger who's being used as human vibrator by a woman. He gets PIV with a condom in most cases. Things like anal or swallowing rarely happen between complete strangers, they happen either in LTRs or FWB situations where a lot of trust has been built between both partners over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:20 PM
3

The vast majority could if they got in shape and learned how to dress and groom.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:15 PM
1

To some extent surely, as every person does. Doesn't make my arguments wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 08:11 AM
1

To start, observing how people who use a specific app behave in online dating (which is what these studies do) is not the same as observing how people behave when it comes to dating and relationships in general. Nor do they tell us why people act like it was observed. Seeing that women rated 80% of men's photos as below average on OkCupid might tell us that they all find the mere upper 20% of men attractive and that by objective criteria. It might also tell us that while women are more selective…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 11:06 PM
1

I think I would pay 50k to increase the chances of having a boy first. Or 50k to not have a girl. After the first one then I wouldn’t care as much. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 02:20 PM
1

Do you know what 7 billion humans are afraid or not afraid of?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 02:19 PM
1

Damn, you're sad bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 02:18 PM
2

Can you describe a little more what you mean with the "lib fem sex positive craze"? Is it something like prominent feminists telling encouraging women and girls that they can be promiscuous and have sex without commitment, or such things?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 12:40 PM
1

women never need to impress men, never have. Hell yeah she needs to do if she's interested in a relationship with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 10:20 AM
1

Methodology is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 08:15 AM
0

If all the women in the thread would find him attractive or even offer him sex, people here would also say that confirms 80/20 and the red pill, because it would prove it's all about looks. So it would "confirm" the 80/20 rule if he was found attractive and if he wasn't found attractive LOL. Just a matter of how you frame it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 08:10 AM
1

Might also be because men are able to have sex with someone they're not really attracted to (and enjoy it) more easily. They might be able to temporarily ignore what they think are clear flaws about a woman's apperance, which is also because it's more easy to enjoy penetrative sex for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 04:37 PM
1

Surely you must have heard those "Put a paper bag over her head and she's still good for sex" jokes that are part of our culture, right? Clearly a woman's face matters a great deal to many men, if not the ones you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 04:36 PM
1

I also like to talk about deep shit and life problems with male friends. Much more interesting than talking about sports too. Life and its problems are a universal experience, that's why it can be fascinating to talk to others on how they feel, and what could be done to improve things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 10:00 AM
1

Globally, death by suicide occurred about 1.8 times more often among males than among females in 2008, and 1.7 times in 2015.[4][5][6] In the western world, males die by suicide three to four times more often than do females https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:48 AM
2

But what are you doing for it? I mean apart from posting on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:36 AM
1

Say what you want about feminists, but a lot of them have devoted their private time and effort to spreading awareness about problems and hurdles affecting women and demanded change. I don't see men doing that to the same extent when it comes to male problems like feeling isolated, having no support networks, struggling with depression and so on. It's easy to blame women for all of this, but taking action yourself (and motivating others to do so) is what actually brings change in this world - an…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:25 AM
3

It could also be that women go through more shit in life, and that's why they attempt it more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 09:08 AM
1

I'm a bit late here, but I loved your take on a typical "liberal arts people are just braindead gays who don't contribute to society" person. Extremely well thought out points.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 09:18 PM
2

Get an ordinary guy online seeking LTR, and get a fat ugly woman. Compare after a month. The fat ugly woman will have a harder time getting a quality relationship with a partner worth his salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 12:41 PM
1

I'm a man, and it's true that I believe that the idea that women could breeze through life with ideal relationships if they just stopped chasing Chad is false, to a significant extent. I mean, it's true that many people want the most attractive partner they can get, and men are also guilty of this and many of them could also probably have to suffer less drama if they didn't chase attractive women who mean trouble. But more often than not, when I saw pictures of men who are abusers or hurt women …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 09:20 AM
1

Because what humanity desperately needs right now is more kids lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 08:40 PM
1

Money used to be the equalizer for the average man to be seen as attractive as an average woman. A man who was a stable earner was seen as valuable in the eyes of women as they would recognize him as someone who can provide for her and her children. Now that women have entered the workforce (and with the added benefit of doubling the labor market thus lowering wages), it isn't seen as nearly as valuable since they can make their own money. This makes men's looks the main basis for attraction, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:29 PM
1

Totally possible. On average, White Americans on average are like 0.4 centimeters taller than African Americans, so one could say that Whites are by a small margin tallest race (with regional and individual variations existing).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 07:14 PM
1

Even incel "science" is discordant on whether eye color matters in attractiveness, with some souces clearly showing that the shape of the eye matters much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 11:36 PM
1

It has already stopped increasing in Denmark according to some stats. Additionally, I expect average height to stall for the additional reason that non-white people are becoming more numerous, demographically, with white people being the tallest race in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 11:32 PM
1

Baby boomers were born until 1965.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 11:23 PM
2

Why would women care whether random beta males are having sex, as long as it's not with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 11:20 PM
1

Simps are usually unattractive to women. (and of course, there's women who simp for men also)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 03:42 PM
2

Why? Because what people actually do is what matters. Men are not the sex-crazed maniacs that this sub thinks they are, and many like dating, having a girlfriend or being in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 03:41 PM
1

Many men like the idea of having a girlfriend. Watch that men do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 03:14 PM
2

Red pillers insist that any man worth his salt will not lock down a hooker for an LTR and they will die alone lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 01:18 PM
1

You don't have to actually say anything to a woman to be considered harassing or predatory or anything like that. By some crazed man-hating feminists or tumblerinas maybe. Not by the majority of the population, not by your boss and last but not least not by the law, because looking at people or even talking to them in a polite way is not illegal. Now you might think "but you will get fired from your job if you approach a woman, HR is gynocentric nowadays", the situation is most often not that si…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 12:59 PM
1

By searching this subreddit for "harassment" because I was bored. Some posters argued that jail was the issue: That interacting with a woman might result in jail time if you're ugly, but a relationship if you're good looking. Even if social shaming is the issue, who gets shamed for politely asking someone out? The guy in the elevatorgate situation wasn't shamed or identified.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 03:29 PM
1

Of course you don't need to ask people for an advance (no idea what the other poster was smoking). Asking someone out to a date politely won't lead to jail time in any Western country.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 01:40 PM
1

No man ever got thrown to jail for politely approaching a woman and respecting her 'no'.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 01:35 PM
1

You mean guys like Timothée Chalamet or Tom Holland?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 11:25 PM
0

You're wrong but you don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 10:57 AM
1

So women will either have to settle for an unattractive guy or expect to be ghosted after sex? And red pillers say women are the privileged gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/21 10:49 AM
1

Which feminists have killed men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 03:05 PM
3

The average guy gets zero attention online. That's not true. The average guy gets about 1 match in every 6 swipes on Tinder. He can find women who like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 02:50 PM
1

Not outrageous for women to demand equality in being sexual assault victims at least, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/21 11:33 PM
1

How would you classify tall guys with a short temper and an overly aggressive demeanour? Do they stuffer from any notable syndrome?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 02:01 PM
1

Well, if we take one group of people who definitely have high n-county pasts - porn actors - the principle of "like attracts like" definitely holds true. You see male and female porn actors becoming steady partners or marrying, like Mick Blue and Anikka Albrite, one of which had 94 sex partners and the other over 1,000 in porn alone. People in porn regularly date and marry within their own circles actually. There's even famous people who weren't in porn going for that, like Charlie Sheen, who is…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/21 02:43 PM
4

Buscemi sure has it hard with his looks. Only a millionaire and a famous actor LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:05 PM
2

They're not self-reported. Regional Subsets (Western and Eastern) Measurements: Researcher measured, BP and NBP length (separately), Mixed base and mid-shaft girth, Meta-dataset I'd be surprised if self-reported measurements showed such numbers tbh. Men usually overrate their own size and that definitely shows in studies of self-reported sizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 05:02 PM
2

So what do you suggest that high n-count women do if they want a LTR? Let's say that some of them have never read your advice and now have had 50 partners while wanting to marry and settle down. They can't go back and change the past. What whould they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:47 PM
3

The Western average includes numbers from 38 different studies. Probably the most accurate data ever thus.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:36 PM
14

You think if he stood in the line of a supermarket and wasn't famous, people would think "damn, he's ugly" or would he just not stand out at all because he looked totally normal? That's what I mean with Hollywood ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:35 PM
5

Looks are the most important indicator of worth and status. this is especially true if the guy is outgoing and charming Isn't it reversed? Being charming and outgoing can make a guy attractive despite him not being good-looking, and vice versa, being physically good looking can make a a guy attractive even if he's not charming or outoing. You're saying "attractive trait A makes a man attractive especially if he has attractive trait B", which seems odd to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:19 PM
9

Is Steve Buscemi ugly hot or just Hollywood ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 04:16 PM
1

I think this is why women tend to put less emphasis on a man’s weight Men all over this subreddit are insisting though that as a man, you need to be big to be successful with women though, and women't dont find skinny guys attractive unless they're tall/have an attractive face. So that's a contested view.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 01:29 PM
1

Thicker legs?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 01:22 PM
1

What is your body shape like? Pear shaped with a relatively flat belly and bigger legs?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 01:18 PM
1

More of the story: don't get alpha widow'd after dating Chad or you'll get breast cancer lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 01:06 PM
0

It can be. I mean, fatter equals bigger and heavier, which can assist in giving the image of "big, full-sized guy" who not only makes a woman look more feminine next to him but also can handle himself better in fights simply because of his higher mass, and is less likely to be physically confronted by guys trying to 'one-up' him. In my experience, many less intelligent men will also instinctively respect the fat guy more than the skinny, lean one, simply because the first one is bigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 01:02 PM
1

How is it a logical argument to say that "60-70% of men will struggle hard to get get into any relationship, believe me"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 02:24 PM
1

Married men are happier and more physically healthy on average, than unmarried ones, so statistics speak against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/21 02:08 PM
3

Exactly - my mother also came from a turbulent household and grew up with a violent father, and while the men she chose during a course of her lifetime were quite different in some aspects, none ever came close to fitting the violent, dangerous bad boy archetype. Even now, she reacts with disgust to men who look like brutes and violent criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 04:06 PM
1

The fearful man writes a long ass text without paragraphs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 03:32 PM
1

the pesky attachment/emotional stuff that comes with being a woman Things like sociosexuality or how much feelings come with physical intimacy differ between different people rather than between genders in my experience. There are some women who can have casual sex without developing any deeper feelings for a long time, and there are some men who fall for someone quickly, even if they themselves are physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 11:59 AM
1

Why couldn't being engaged be a success?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 10:56 AM
1

You should participate more in this sub as a proof that intelligence is not a necessity to get laid. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 10:25 AM
1

Lol the vetting process for men is pretty much don't be fat and don't be a b**** so they judge other's options based on that criteria Men also care about the face, ya know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 03:15 PM
1

Gay men feel a lot of pressure to conform to beauty & attractiveness standards and with all the labels that seem to be rampant in the LGBT scene, many of them struggle and are unhappy. Yes it's easier for gay man to find sex, but that doesn't mean they'll all feel appreciated and found attractive. Imagine being gay and you go on some app like Grindr or Romeo, matching with a guy who seems attractive and nice and they immediately become sexual and ask if you wanna bang, and if you don't want that…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 11:39 AM
2

Where did you get that idea? You realize testosterone makes you horny, and women have less of that, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 08:51 AM
1

Because the incel ideology is full of self-hatred and hatred for women duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 11:52 AM
1

Most rapes are conducted by already sexually active men. So? People make mistakes and bad character traits can remain well hidden for long times. And yeah, some women are responsible for choosing bad men but most don't actually want to sleep with rapists. What about men who choose women who will divorce rape them? Do men incentivize divorce rape by actively selecting divorce rapists? Also do we know the correlated effects of sexual activity and rape. Incels might be prone to have more inhibited …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 10:34 AM
0

Incels openly fantasize about murdering and raping women in their forums. People think of incels as potential murderers and rapists. Do people have no shame 😤
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 08:57 AM
1

All women can find then selves in that posiitiin. That has little to do with race. A hot, fit, pleasant, and submissive black girl is much more likely to get a second date than a frumpy, standoffish white girl. Well, of course there's more than just the factor race. A handsome, sociable and successful Indian dude will also be more desired by woman than a fat, greasy white neckbeard. That doesn't change the fact that race plays a role and comes with people treating you differently in dating, for …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 09:00 PM
0

Oh yeah, it's possible. We're talking about a wide range of men here. Perhaps an 18 year old virgin cares more about being accepted by peers than getting laid (at least most of the time, he might feel lonely at a Friday night but feel fine after jacking off). A lot of men aren't these sex crazed maniacs PPD thinks they are (I've written a longer comment on this before) and low libido men exist. There's also a difference in the moral status of these actions I think. Actively shaming/attacking peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:48 PM
1

"At some level of consciousness" what does that mean precisely? Do you ever have sex without the goal being the creation of a child, or not? Being forced to pay taxes and being prevented from removing another living being from your body are not comparable at all. You can make the argument taxes take away a share of your property which was generated with your body, but come on. It's on a totally different level. You might be against abortion, but time isn't on your side here. Although there is ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:18 PM
1

Not being sexed by women is more distressing and hurtful than being outcasted or bullied by other men? You got any sources bro? Also most virgins eventually do have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:10 PM
1

Well, my original claim was that most people who verbally call virgins losers are men. Men are generally the aggressive gender whole women's disdain tends to be of the passive aggressive kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:12 PM
0

On what subreddit did you see women derogatively call men virgins? I argue it's not a mainstream thing for women to do that, while it's more commong for men to police and judge each other by their sexual success. I once saw statistics about the subreddit r/justneckbeardthings (which is pretty much a neckbeard/incel shaming subreddit) and most users were active in male-dominated subreddits. It even makes sense from an evopsych perspective to put down other males that could compete with you in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:27 PM
1

I mean, the roots of someone being a bad person are multifactorial like so much in life. Someone might have had horrible upbringing, bad socialization, have sociopathic tendencies, psychological problems, drug problems or turned criminal for economic reasons. The question is why do you single out women sleeping with a "bad man" as if that were the only deciding factor? We will go nowhere by giving people excuses for their bad behaviour like "oh he can't help being an asshole, he just wants to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 03:34 PM
2

How is that a red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:22 PM
2

Yes guys "turn down pussy" depending on the effort it takes. Women of color can find themselves in the position of guys wanting a quick, easy lay with no effort required with them but not being treated with respect or decency by them, and/or not finding those guys also willing to have a long-term relationship/wait for sex. There's a reason black women are the most likely to respond to messages on online dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 12:58 PM
2

That's the author of the comic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 12:54 PM
2

She might find the same man likeable and potentially attractive if she met him in a different environment like a coffee shop or at work. Tinder is an artificial environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 12:41 PM
3

Most people who call male virgins losers are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 11:57 AM
1

That sucks how the IRS forces you to pay US taxes even if you leave the country. I think the US is the only country in the world with such an absurd rule. For all other countries, my argument stands. Two questions: 1. Do you personally only have sex for the goal of creating children? 2. Why do you personally oppose the right to abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 08:49 PM
1

I don't agree with conneting taxes to bodily autonomy. Taxes take away some of your money (property) and don't infringe on your body. You think every instance of sex is equal to the voluntary act of creating offspring? Shouldn't you then also support men having to pay child support since they agreed to have sex? Nonetheless, most sex isn't meant to create children, as a quick look on this subreddit should tell you. The whole red pill ideology is more or less telling men to just have sex for fun.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 06:50 PM
1

Even if a fetus is a full human being, a woman has the right to forcefully remove it from her body because of bodily autonomy and the right to self-defense. It's not really murder if someone needs a blood transfusion from you and you alone, you refuse to give them your blood, and they die as a result, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 05:08 PM
1

It's not contradictory at all because women are shorter on average. I'm below the average male height and still taller than about 80-90% of women I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 03:20 PM
1

I always wondered, what does your username mean?!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 01:23 PM
1

A lot of women will, if the guy is at least a little bit taller. Obviously a 6'3'' woman will have it kinda hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 01:22 PM
1

Fat men below 5'11 would barely see a difference by losing weight. Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 07:07 PM
-1

I blame women Every red and black piller ever 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 06:15 PM
4

I get that you're new to this subreddit? Because otherwise you wouldn't wonder why the question about looks matters - it's a huge talking point in this forum, with a lot of posters saying that women's complaints about men refusing to commit and hurting them are questionable because women create this issue themselves by only choosing conventionally attractive men (while average looking men might be good people but are overlooked by women). I'm not saying this is true, but at least 50% of the post…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 06:03 PM
-1

Online dating has also made it easier to date for men who have qualities attractive to women but simply aren't cocky/indifferent enough to cold approach women in malls.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 02:57 PM
1

You realize that once a video has hit a certain popularity, private users can reupload it on different sites again and again even if the original source was taken down, right? The internet doesn't forget easily and it's not as easy as "just get a solicitor and the video will be gone forever".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 02:45 PM
4

How physically attractive would you say those fuck boys usually are?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 02:43 PM
1

Getting a match on dating apps is nearly impossible for most guys, let alone something actually starting from it. That simply isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 02:37 PM
1

The user is called theiamsamurai, and he's still active.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:36 PM
1

Complaining and whining has never helped anyone I'm sure. Still, it's worth asking: if these nice guys can never replicate the bad boy successfully as you said, what do you suggest they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 04:59 PM
3

I don't need to cry about paying for dates since I've never paid for a date in my lifetime. Dating in the 21st century can be dope.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:52 AM
2

And men don't desire to have sex with hot young chicks while still being with their partner, and do so given the chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 11:08 AM
14

Whose problem it is was not at discussion here. I was simply pointing out it's something that exists. In any case, any problem that is shared by a large group of people is also a societal problem, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 10:50 AM
27

The trouble here is many young men don't have large social groups anymore. I'm talking real friend groups from a person's neighborhood, a circle of friends for going out, etc. Not just college classes where you come together once a week and then people leave and new ones come on after a semester. This phenomenon of people having less friends also applies to women, but on a lesser scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:06 AM
1

I've seen girls make significant moves during the span of my (limited) dating experience already, including one going in for a kiss, one trying to go in for a kiss (but she was hesitant and so was I, and she later jokingly told me how she "died on that spot" of embarrassment that day, which I found cute), three in this year alone being the first to ask me for a date after matching on apps, and one inviting me into her apartment without a previous incentive on my part. So I seriously question tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 06:48 PM
1

INFJ is the worst personality type imo, for your own quality of life anyway. Could you elaborate on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/20 06:25 PM
2

is not an argument, it's what hillbillies say five beers in at the bar when sharing alien abduction anal-probing stories. 🤣✌
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 12:50 PM
2

I'm still curious to see a girl you'd personally rate a 6. 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 10:11 AM
3

Wow, seems a bit rough. What would be an example of a typical 6 to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 01:00 AM
1

Rate her on a scale 0-10, please [1] [2]
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 07:57 PM
1

Again, I’m not having trouble with women. Sorry for misunderstanding you, I was basing this off the finding a woman is like finding a needle in a sea of haystacks part. I don't think I can do anything to change your view on women. If you've been hurt or feel like you've been betrayed by some women, a "not all are like this" is not gonna convince you and sound condescending. But it seems kinda cynical for you to explicate the 'folly of women' without even mentioning the horrors of men that human …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 04:11 PM
1

Actually it looks like you forgot Audi, where do they rank in your hierarchy? I hope I've been at least been a Renault Megane R.S. Trophy to some women for a phase of their lives, although since tastes vary, to others I only took the rank of a Mk1 Skoda Octavia (gotta show some love to European manufacturers here since you named the Hellcat, AKA "a true American redneck icon" 😂) It looks like you're jumping around with your position a bit...if you're really that antisocial, is it any surprise yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 12:00 PM
3

So pointing to evolutionary psychology to explain things really isn't a 'knockout argument' especially since it's thrown around here on a constant basis. There are more than enough problems with the field to argue it might not be the only possible lense of explaining, or looking at how humans act. I'll add my perspective....it's clear to me the troubles of (online) dating, including competing with other available suitors and having your partner wondering about "what else is out there" don't only…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 11:46 PM
2

So there's roughly an equal number of men and women if you don't live in a place like China or India. If even Chad has serious trouble with finding women, where are all the women and what are they doing? Especially when you mean ANY women...it just doesn't add up mathematically. I also don't buy that all women who are desperate simply are so because they can't get Chris Hemsworth. Many want a down-to-earth, healthy and averagely handsome guy who doesn't do FWBs or DMs models on Insta while in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:26 AM
1

Got ya. Very reasonable stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 06:59 PM
1

Most times the kids seem to appreciate what you do for them, so that helps. I can't imagine having ungrateful kids - that would kill me. It's kinda your duty to make sure your kids get the best life you can provide for them, isn't it? Your kids didn't ask to be born.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 12:23 PM
2

What makes you believe finding any partner is like finding a needle in a haystack even for attractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 11:45 AM
1

There's a huge difference. Do you seriously believe any normal woman is gonna be disgusted by a 25 y.o. guy who's had sex in his two serious relationships, one for 2 and the other one for 3 years? What planet do you live on? Being a virgin is a different story. Many women are gonna suspect there must be something weird with a guy who's had zero partners or relationships at a certain age. I'm guessing some of them can't fully imagine what it's like to be a man. Even if they (women) are shy or int…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:23 AM
1

man with no previous partners non-incel non-virgin low n count men. Pick one for your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 11:12 PM
1

You got any evidence most women are "openly disgusted by low n count men", boi?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:47 PM
2

Yeah, and who says a normal relationship can't damage her or make her "used up"? This analogy is acting like one night stands with Chad will destroy a woman but normal LTRs are totally fine lol. You can just become as bitter and jaded from toxic LTRs than you can from a series of hook-ups.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:24 PM
1

There is no scientific evidence that promiscuity damages pair bonding. None.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:13 PM
1

Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 08:22 AM
2

They can still find a bigger guy they are attracted to even though they initially hoped they would get someone fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:57 PM
1

I love how you can't accept someone else has a different opinion. Talk about being narrow minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:11 PM
0

Well because more women are interested in relationships and not hookups. And if there's not enoug fit men around, many women can't help but choose a fat guy eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:05 PM
2

Martin Freeman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 04:55 PM
3

He's 6 foot 3 according to Google yet is still only a head taller than Ariana how does that work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/20 04:41 PM
1

Had to stop myself from spitting out my drink when you said Downey Jr. is not good looking and his success had nothing to do with his looks. Are you serious? This guy isn't attractive? What I said was there's clearly more to male attractiveness than just "big, tall & strong". There are actors who succeeded in Hollywood despite not really being "attractive". Think of people like Michael Cera or Jesse Eisenberg. Skinny pretty boys are considered an attractive choice for many women! I mean, that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/20 12:04 PM
1

With all due respect to your fiancee, but what she says or thinks is really not proving anything in this discussion. That's one person, and one can find one person in the world to say or think anything you can imagine. I'm not even claiming you're wrong when you say more women like guys like Jackman or Cavill than guys like Chalamet or Lerman. But just to for the sake of completeness, do you have any ways to back this up? And even if you can prove that Jackman or Chris Hemsworth gets more Google…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 11:02 AM
1

Even generally speaking I disagree with most things you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 09:05 AM
1

I disagree that Chamalet and Lerman are only attractive because of their money and fame. Sure, age plays a role, because it conveys fertility and virility. An 70 year old Hugh Jackman will also be a lot less attractive than a 40 year old one. But they are seen as cute and attractive by a lot of women. There is a market for "slim, sensitive, pretty boy" just like there is a market for "big, rugged, broody bad boy", like it or not. Additionally, fame and status plays a role for everyone. ScarJo an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 09:04 AM
1

Ain't much defense needed against your pompous tirade of "men noble and good, women fickle immature and emotional, can't u see it?" You suffer from selective perception that's all. And the u thing is just annoying and exhausting to read and reminds me of Youtube comments when I was 13 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 09:11 PM
2

You're equivalating pretty (but not super, goddess-like beautiful) female movie stars with model-like, extremely well-built male movie stars. Not 100% accurate I'd say. Not every male movie star is a 6'2'' super-ripped Hugh Jackman (the equivalent to that wouldn't be ScarJo but a female runway model or something) but many are still considered sexually attractive by women. Look at people like Logan Lerman or Timothée Chalamet. Not buff and sometimes not tall, just handsome yet many women still fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 11:54 AM
1

There remains a small percentage of the wage gap that is unexplained by things like different career choices, having children and the likes. If both genders are equally likely to cheat or abuse, but women are more likely to divorce over it, that's an important point. It could mean that men just have to stop cheating/abusing, and divorces would decrease.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 11:40 AM
1

Most men aren't able to cheat? I know it's a black pill standard belief, but would you have any sources to back it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 11:38 AM
0

What about the thing with losing the house? I'm always doubtful when someone says "men LOSE the HOUSE after a divorce" because I'm thinking...isn't the house marital property so both spouses own it equally? And when a woman "gets" a house due to divorce, doesn't she have to compensate the ex husband by giving him half the house's worth? But perhaps I'm interpreting the laws incorrectly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 11:15 AM
1

Men initiate divorces too, you know. And in some (many, if you believe divorce lawyers) cases where women initiated divorce, the decision was mutual. Some men also cheat in marriages. What about their vows and promises? Did they stick to it? You attempt to portray women as emotionally fickle beings you can't trust while portraying men as noble knights who are easy to satisfy and understandably want the women to handle the household, clean and cook while they work (even though most WOMEN also wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 11:09 AM
1

Why will women end up doing more in all cases? Biological differences?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 10:57 AM
1

Why though? If you are largely happy cohabitating with your current partner, why wouldn't you want that feeling to return, albeit with a different person (whom you could still love)?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 10:46 AM
1

Men are more likely to be decently satisfied when they have a woman (his wife) in their life since they are biologically wired to earn commitment from a woman. Alternatively, men are wired to spread their seed and have sex with as many fertile women as possible. That's what TRP argues: monogamy favors the female imperative over the men's, and thus, men are likely to cheat (and still stay within a marriage, because there's little cost associated to it).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 10:43 AM
1

When women initiate 80% of divorces, why the fuck would men care why they’re initiating these divorces? "When men make a dollar for every 87 cents women make, why would women care why men are earning more?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 10:31 AM
3

Statistical analyses worth their salt don't show that "a male 6 will be lucky to get 1 match in a month" you're exaggerating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 10:08 AM
2

People who experience people being mean to them while growing up don't build up attractive personalities? That seems simplistic. You could equally argue that rough experiences can shape character. If someone experienced difficulties in life but still has a great personality, I respect that a lot and it can be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 10:01 AM
2

Men have less severe acne than women on average, in my impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/20 09:43 AM
1

Dude I don't have time to read 300 comments, it's workday. Take another course at debating school. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 08:05 AM
1

Okay, care to give one specific example of feminists trying to justify victimhood and consequently hurting "real rape victims"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 10:14 PM
1

You're the one saying grabbing don't matter in the first place, so why are you throwing that at me? I'm for men demanding to be left alone from harassment all the way. Only because something is experienced by many it's not automatically nothing to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 08:30 PM
1

Why did you put wrong in quotation marks? Yeah, obviosly there are differences in the extent of sexual assault/harassment, as well as in the definitions. I haven't looked at the particular sexual assault statistic you're referring to, so I can't comment on whether the definition or the wording is questionable or whatever, but sexual harassment against women is widespread - so widespread that a majority of young women can tell a story of how some guy followed her through several streets in some n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 07:13 PM
1

13 days is nothing lol. If someobody in your real life mentions something you said two weeks ago, do you react with "you necro'd my statement"? 😂 Crazy feminists are a thing I'm not talking about. I'm simply saying only because you aren't bothered by people groping you, it's not a big deal for everyone else too. One reason for that being that men and women are different (something the red pill also preaches I think).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 06:17 PM
1

A dynamic where isn't men "doing everything involving relations with women" on one and women "not putting forth any real investment" on the other hand. Friendships that aren't toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 06:14 PM
1

I've never heard of a guy regularly paying for his female friends in my personal environment is all I can say, and I doubt it's prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 06:08 PM
1

Females outnumber males in sexual assault victim numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 05:03 PM
1

Only because you weren't bothered by people groping or touching you without consent, it doesn't mean other men/women who experienced it also weren't. Unless you believe all the stories about sexual harassment trauma are totally fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 04:59 PM
1

While attractive people do get opportunities and advantages, I see little truth in the belief that "some men/women are just too unattractive to ever find partners" that incels and many other members of this forum adhere to. I believe a lot of chances people get to get laid/find love are due to exposure and the law of averages playing its part. Incels, I say, are mostly incels because of their personality issues, mental health issues and perhaps most of all their social isolation and lack of frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 03:28 PM
1

I don't know what to tell if you really believe women are unable to plan or pay for things when it comes to friendships. A lot of women lead very active lives, young, educated women are the ones I especially see travelling and doing stuff with their girlfriends very frequently. Who do you think plans if two girlfriends are travelling or going out together? It has to be a woman by necessity, lol. If some guys are really out there paying everything for their female FRIENDS they need to set some bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/20 11:28 AM
1

IMO, if there is something like a crisis of people struggling with loneliness, we can still be curious about the possible reasons, and if some people have no romantic/sexual success at all, they're allowed to find it unfair even if they're not entitled to it. A lot of young people coming out of universities right now are probably frustrated they can't find jobs or even get job interviews, and if they voice their frustration and say they find it unfair, most people would probably agree. It's "unf…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 03:11 PM
1

"How about I just treat you nicely but not put forth any real investment to get to know you while still receiving the benefit of your companionship without the cost of sex or the obligation to reciprocate. Sound cool?" What makes you think those friendships are one-sided and women get more ouf them than the men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 02:46 PM
1

You've got some very interesting views that's for sure. I don't agree with society collapsing for women being promiscuous at all, but you're free to do so. Also, you didn't go into the argument about aging women being left by their husbands. That's already one thing many women don't like about men, and it's arguably aligning with male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/20 08:49 AM
1

And males are a naturally polygamous sex by nature. Women should forgive their partners for cheating, after all, men want to spread their seed by nature. It's also in men's nature to leave aging wives, which is also okay, because it's male nature to want to procreate with fertile women even in older age. Do you see how going the "how nature intended" route leads to a grim place?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 09:14 AM
1

Appeal to nature isn't the best argument to use, no matter if you're male or female. It makes for a shitty world lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 06:13 PM
1

The only reference to Tinder is that shitty Medium article with a horrible methodology and a sample size of like 12 lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 03:45 PM
1

The science is there but the conclusions we can draw from it differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 02:20 PM
1

Which one?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 02:17 PM
1

Lol, good luck to you too mr. "married for 10 years but constantly posts in incel subreddits insisting that only looks matter". At least you'll know it ain't your fault if wifey says 'not tonight honey, I have a headache', it's just human biology at work! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 07:10 PM
1

Dude, you seem OBSESSED with this guy in a really unhealthy way. No offense. To imagine you would dig so deep to find a 6 year old random comment on Reddit only to prove...nothing? Some anonymous poster saying some person had this height, who could be literally anyone posting anything for whatever reason. Even if it was true, why are you so obstinate to convince everyone of your view that ER was ugly? You could write 4 more posts and show me 100 additional still pictures of him, I still wouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 09:31 PM
1

Didn't waste my time cause it was actually fun to give some contrast to your questionable statement. Yeah, to an individual woman he definitely could've been 'smoking hot', of course that is never going to happen now since he chose the coward's way out. If you have a lighter frame, you don't have a "12 year old's body", stop exaggerating, and where do you take the height number from? Didn't he state he was 5'9'' or something, and looked to be about as tall as Silvester Stallone, when they were b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 07:31 AM
1

Dude, Elliot wasn't ugly at all. Still pictures never show the whole reality, you have to see people's faces in motion, while talking or acting naturally to get a good impression of their attractiveness. He wasn't conventional Chad, but he was decent looking, and his Asperger's and inability to understand human behaviour, instead of his looks, was the reason for his downfall. I'm also not sure why you think he was exceptionally short for his surroundings - he lived in Southern California, an are…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/20 11:01 AM
1

Keep ignoring human logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 03:15 PM
1

Lol, women have agency, it's their own responsibility to pick partners. It's not on men to "stop hoarding" anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/20 01:39 PM
1

Of course I don't think anything over 2 is high. Since the average is like 5 from what I can remember. 😂 I would say 20-50 is already high.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 05:14 PM
1

People with high n-counts are a minority among extroverts also. But your point stands, they mostly get together with other (male or female) sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 04:40 PM
1

You think I'm blue pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 03:40 PM
3

My dad's ex girlfriend once voiced her lack of comprehension for people buying new cars but also said her two horses cost a thousand bucks a month in upkeep easily haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 01:35 PM
1

LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 01:32 PM
1

Umm can't he get with the pudgy Indian cleaning lady?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 12:42 PM
1

How is that passive? I was clearly saying what I think about your opinion lol. Also it's purge week.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 12:13 PM
1

You believe looks matter more to women? Meaning that women care more about looks than men? Because I don't believe this is true, research shows men care more than women, or it's equal at least, especially when it comes to long-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 12:08 PM
1

Understandable, but it's not like you're speaking as one person here. You're preaching to the choir - the entire black pill, which takes up a majority of this sub, pledges in different ways that conventionally less attractive men will never be found attractive. So it's not just "what anybody on the internet says", but what a large group of people say. I'm sure you'll be fine if one person calls you unattractive for not being a tall blonde. What were to happen if a room of 100 people told you all…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 11:18 AM
1

You're free to have that preference, but have you ever thought about how a short guy might feel when reading your post? Or do you not care about that? Just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 11:01 AM
1

Most Chinese mothers probably want a son more than a daughter. Misogyny is enforced by both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:51 AM
1

Try this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6cps40/a_scientific_study_that_actually_does_provide/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:49 AM
1

One could argue if women systematically date above their league and get hurt, they will be less able to enjoy their future relationships with men "within their league". This could make them unhappy as well as their future partners, who could never match up to Chad. So it could hurt both men and women. I'm not saying this is true, just that you could build this argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:41 AM
1

I did not make this claim. I'm saying if a woman hooked up with someone at one point in her life, because she just wanted to, she can't really be mad at a man for wanting the same. She also did it one, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 10:09 AM
1

It's not like women never look for something casual instead of commitment though. Can't shame men when women want it too in some periods of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 09:46 AM
0

Cal was possessive and also jealous once he saw there was another man his fiancee was interested in. He probably grew up like Donald Trump, thinking since he was rich and powerful, he was a king and could take everything he wanted for himself in life. Once he saw that things didn't go his way, he reacted impulsively and didn't want to give the woman promised to him away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 09:06 AM
1

LMAO, the mental gymnastics...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 08:59 AM
2

If the story went the other way around, black pillers would go the way of saying she picked Cal because of hypergamy, he was rich Chad and Jack's sweet personality didn't matter LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 08:57 AM
3

BleachedJam doesn't like echo chambers, and they don't like "women bad" echo chambers either. I see no contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 08:50 AM
2

Movie Leo didn't have the socioeconomic status. He'd probably be happy with settling down with a chick he loves.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 08:42 AM
1

Well I guess some (native) Scandinavians also harrass/rape women occasionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 05:21 PM
1

Your take on this opinion piece? (machine translation follows) Let's keep the 1,5 meters also after Corona Women learned early on to keep their distance from strangers, for self-protection. Now men also try to keep their distance. One can hope that something of this will remain after Corona. Still to at least at the beginning of May the contact prohibition is to remain, and so some woman might take off that completely beautifully much work. Unlike men, women learned early on to keep their distan…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/20 09:41 AM
1

Of course being a successful Hollywood actor takes much more luck, skill and perserverance than being physically attractive. That's not the point - if anything, it should be inspiring that their "flaws" didn't keep them from achieving this almost impossible dream (of course there's a lot of less attractive actors out there). And lol, you lookists are have your way of jumping between points. The poster before you argued wealth and status don't make a guy sexually attractive, they're just beta tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/20 05:28 AM
1

The societal narrative(s) are more diverse. There are lots of examples of the "frustrated wife who doesn't get laid beause husband got fat, bored of her or is addicted to porn" trope in movies, shows and everyday culture. Also, it's safe to say the cases in the subreddit are real and they're not all unicorns. I know at least one guy in my close friend group who got annoyed because his then gf wanted sex more often than him (as it turned out, she cheated on him while still fucking him quite often…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 04:45 PM
1

Most women don't give a shit about sex robots or sex dolls, except finding the men who'd use them creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 02:15 PM
1

If you look at the Deadbedrooms subreddit, it's anything but a rarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 02:03 PM
1

Then how come some women fangirl over a guy like Adam Driver while others do over Mark Ruffalo, both pretty different looking men (both not traditionally chadly).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 07:02 PM
-1

Okay buddy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 06:51 PM
1

Most men do make the cut for a number of women, even even if they don't make the cut for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 06:46 PM
1

Thanks for the laugh! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 05:54 PM
1

This comment is kinda silly no offense lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 04:09 PM
1

The number of women who don't have sex in the past year has also gone up by 10%...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 04:03 PM
1

This is pretty insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 06:46 PM
2

Where and in what forms do you experience this shaming in your personal life?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:52 PM
1

Do you know any proven cases where a man was fired because he politely asked a woman out?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 09:27 PM
1

You don't know whether he "just wanted to talk to her" because he was stopped in his tracks, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/20 08:13 PM
1

Oh yeah, I've also been here since '15. Are things alright in Brazil? I think your president fucked up pretty badly regarding Corona, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 06:12 PM
1

I think I've been here longer than you. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 11:19 AM
5

DAE turn into a total nerd when it comes to the subject of relationships, sex, gender, feminism, men's rights and the likes, perhaps as a result of finding this forum? Even though things here often get emotional, downright weird, and dark (the whole AF/BB thing, "humans are just animals incapable of loyalty", the black pill), I noticed over the last years, I've developed a keen interest in the whole matter. How people perceive and talk about sex and relationships, and how it colludes with things…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 08:58 PM
1

Of course men can be exploited. What BS is this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 11:46 AM
1

What is supporting the hearth?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 11:46 AM
1

Your point is pretty silly tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/20 01:32 PM
1

How is that data even a proof that women are sharing men? This is sex partners over the last year. A man could have a 2-month fling with woman A in February and a 2-month fling with women B in August. Bam, there you have it. He's a man with 2 sex partners while nobody "shared" him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 09:03 PM
1

Although people generally care about sex and relationships, musing about it like we do here is fringe territory. Most men and women aren't aware of these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:56 PM
1

And do you think that's true?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:25 PM
1

Women/feminists don't need to acknowledge that women want highly attractive men so much that they don't mind sharing them to explain this statistic. The argument can be made that the discrepancy between male and female sexlessness is due to men's behaviours - sending dick pics or acting immature leads to men being unsuccessful while not respecting boundaries, lying to or manipulating men leads to me being more successful, at the expense of women. I'm not saying either possiblity is the truth, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 08:13 PM
1

Even if some women were attracted to dudes who are short or happened to be ugly, they wouldn't usually frame it that way. There is a thing called love so most women with partners fitting that description would not say "yeah my bf is ugly", or say he is short if they knew their partner is insecure about this pount. They would instead point out the things they find attractive about him, e.g. "my bf is funny, charismatic, has a sexy voice, beautiful eyes" and such. This form of "description bias" i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 07:52 PM
1

The female sexlessness rate is only 10% lower than that of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/20 07:42 PM
1

Why do you think it happens to guys less often? Observation?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 12:48 PM
0

Even if the red pill was true, you're assuming men always act logical and therefore, betas would not ghost because they know they have little options and should be grateful to have a woman available to have sex with. This is not the case, some "betas" might not even know they are betas and that, according to the red pill, they cannot find a new partner, while some might even be happy to have gotten laid once in a while and then ghost a woman because they also care about video games or being alon…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 12:36 PM
2

Not every relationship is betabuxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 01:43 PM
3

Please cite the phrases that put blame on men in the article.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 09:35 AM
1

Because hormones alone, or the amount of one specific one, aren't enough to explain complex things like sex drive. Otherwise, there wouldn't be female nymphomaniacs and men with low libidos. Or even relationships where at times women want sex more than their partners. I don't think men who are depressed or women who were abused as children are enough to explain it. Individual people might have different tolerances of exposure to the same amounts of testosterone or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 10:50 PM
3

Once you learn that being single is preferable to simping after a shitty woman who doesn't respect/want you, you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 10:06 PM
3

And yet people still say "well of course women like sex just as much as men!" 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 10:03 PM
3

The reality is, when communication fails, it's usually a gross oversimplification to say it's all one person's failure. The article doesn't say it's one person's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 10:01 PM
2

This isn't gender specific behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 09:57 PM
1

Every time one of those many, many women with "countless options" decides to use one of her options, one man also has to get lucky. Every time women rack up their notoriously high n-counts, many men get options. And it's noy only Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 09:54 PM
1

Actually, women rape at similar rates as men do and men make up 40% of rape victims. If it wasn’t for men on men rape, the numbers would be close to 5050. I don't get the logic in those two sentences. You say men make up 40% of rape victims and, if you were to exclude men on men rape, the numbers would be 50 to 50. If you were to exclude men on men rape (rapes where men are the victims) there would be less male rape victims and therefore, the 40% number would be lower, no? Why are you showing me…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 12:06 AM
1

You're really shooting yourself in the foot with dogmatic shit like "this is the most important thing in our lives" or "sex is the entire reason for our existence". People are individuals and seek out their happiness in individual, often vastly different ways. It's usually a big hindrance to peesonal happiness to compare yourself with what you believe humans "should" be. It also doesn't show the whole picture for trying to understand people. Men don't face a worse kind of oppression than women i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 12:00 PM
1

It's also debatable how and if women really are privileged in the dating aspect. They get approached more and have more opportunities for sex and to say "I'm in a relationship". The sex part is definitely a privilege if you want to experience it or enjoy it, but I'm not sure if the relationship part is a privilege, seeing that studies show women are happier single than being in a relationship. The same things that can be privileges can also be disadvantages in other ways. For example, because wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 11:52 AM
1

I really dont know why men think that women feel bad for not having to deal with kids. I mean look at what goes into being a mother? So much stress and even pain throughout life Nonetheless, it seems that many men (and even more women, I presume) still want to be parents one day. I'm sure there are surveys out there. So regret could happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 11:17 PM
1

Talk about being overly dramatic. Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 10:57 PM
1

Dating and sex isn't the only thing in life and even there, women face plenty of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 10:14 PM
2

I often don't care about reading the front page of subreddits. to distract myself from things I actually should do, I tend to search subreddits for things I'm interested in (in this case, it was "Islam") and if I'm curious about a comment, I reply. I don't really pay attention to how old it is. It's equally dishonest to just say "a man couldn't discipline his wife in patriarchal societies" which is what you did. Domestic violence is still very prevalent in non-Western countries (and even so in c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 07:04 PM
2

What are you talking about with wifebeating not being punished by the law? That isn't and wasn't true with most patriarchal societies. Domestic violence against women was common before emancipation of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 06:38 PM
1

That would prove redheaded muslm converts feel discriminated against more than others. Not redheads in the general population (all of them).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 06:35 PM
1

Can you show any scientific work to the claim that discrimination against gingers is a real thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 05:55 PM
1

Some women naturally have more T than others. That's for sure. In fact there are successful cases of increasing women's libido by injecting T, although there's a price to pay. Sure, but I think there are no women who naturally have more T than the lowest amount a healthy man does. Yet there are low sex-drive men and high sex-drive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 02:28 PM
1

Women are still expected to make most of the concessions in a relationship How are girls/women taught they need to make most of the concessions in a relationship in the 21st century? What are some exampels of this, what do parents tell a girl that makes her believe this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 12:59 PM
1

why is it that the average guy on dating apps has such a hard time finding a LTR if his competition is so shtty Because it can be hard to demonstrate "not being a manchild" over an app. People try to act their best when dating new people and often successfully hide their flaws. A man who's really mature might not be distinguishable among many other men who just put on an act of maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 12:55 PM
1

Thanks for the source. Can't comment on the trustworthiness of someone who wrote a book called "The Female Brain" even if they're a doctor though. Seems a tad ideologically biased. Edit: even then, testosterone can't be the only thing making up sex drive, as some women seem to have insane "base libidos". There are women who are nymphomaniacs after all, or relationships where the woman has a higher sex drive, even though her male partner undoubtedly has more T.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 12:49 PM
1

Still, there is an effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 12:14 PM
1

Men and women can still be friends even if they're not having relationships with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:52 AM
1

Doesn't estrogen also increase sexual desire, and women have more of it? Having higher levels of estrogen in the body promotes vaginal lubrication and increases sexual desire. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324887
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 11:46 AM
1

Social circles constantly change with people getting older, moving onto different stages of life or to different places and some entering and leaving circles. There's no excuse not to become more social.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/20 12:17 AM
1

You're purposefully drawing up one of the least attractive images of a man there is to prove women's standards are less generous.The equivalent to that is not just a big woman, it's a 45-year old chubby single mom with an ugly face or something. A woman who will have very few suitors and those will be of an equally low SMV. The Indian janitor could improve by getting in shape or going to school to get a better job. In any case, it's an extreme example since most men, even most incels, will be mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/20 11:33 PM
1

So far those countries' socialist policies hold up well even with less strict migration regimes than the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 07:06 PM
1

That's interesting, I haven't thought about it in terms of classes. I'm in Europe, so we generally don't have a big as a wealth disparity, healthcare for everyone (so barely any toothless young people) and so on. Cheating, alcoholism and other toxic traits are red flags of their own, they can be there independent of someone's financial situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 02:06 PM
1

What stuff is 3x the price in Germany compared to the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:52 PM
1

What's wrong with not having had enough money in the past? There's no shame in that. Even if a women I dated was poor today I wouldn't mind (unless it was the result of poor financial behaviour, which is a bit of a red flag). I'd think it would be more of a problem if someone expected me to be worldly and experienced and I could not fulfill that because of my limited travel experiences. Then again, I'd argue I'm still intelligent and have read a lot about the world and you don't need to have bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:48 PM
1

Consuming meat destroys the planet just as much as travelling to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:24 PM
1

Yeah, I totally see the value in those things. I'm glad about my travel experiences, but also a little insecure that I haven't had as many of them as many people my age. For times of my life I've had mental hurdles like depression to deal with, and overcoming those can also be an accomplishment. It sucks to think I could be rejected by some girls simply because they want men with extensive travel experience. Plus I care about climate change, and it's a little relief at least to know that I haven…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:13 PM
2

Sitting in a plane while the crew brings you to your destination?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:05 PM
1

You're on this sub and worried about posters spreading sexism? LMAO his post is nothing compared to what you can spot here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 01:02 PM
1

An accomplishment to me is overcoming a challenge, facing fears or hurdles successfully. Travelling to tourist spots is not an accomplishment if the biggest hurdle was waiting for a bus for an hour or looking for your travel guide after you lost them. It's very little of an accomplishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 12:59 PM
1

Your assumption is not correct. A lot of profiles just show pictures of typical tourst places and that they love to travel, while not engaging in the culture outside of the regular tourist activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 12:47 PM
2

It's still not an accomplishment if your parents finance your travels.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 12:45 PM
1

How does travelling to a new country convey the idea that "you can be anyone, play any part"? Unless you permanently move there and don't have a job (or quit your job in your home country) you will always play one part...the part of being a tourist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 12:40 PM
1

The only trouble is that it feels 70% of all women's profiles now mention they love traveling and they probably want a guy who also loves traveling.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 12:26 PM
1

So then women could still do the approaching when it comes to long-term dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 11:15 AM
1

Kinda contradictory to say men say "yes" to every woman but a woman with past, failed relationships is somehow undateable. Do you believe men have standards, or do you don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 10:56 AM
1

Some women care about charisma or personality when looking for casual sex, if only to make sure the guy isn't a serial killer or a selfish sex partner. But yeah, for those who don't, Chad can win even with zero personality points.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 06:16 PM
1

It might've also been because these women did like my looks. I'm far from ugly but simply can't fullfill all the insane criteria needed to be Chad according to the black pill, like 80-90% of all other men. And yeah, I agree that all of a person's attributes and abilities make up their attractiveness, not only their looks, but that counts for pretty much everyone. Even Chad usually has certain positive personality traits and some socio-economic status, his looks alone won't make a quality woman s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 05:21 PM
0

In general, I believe this is true. I don't believe that the arousal window is the same for every woman. I've been an 8/10 to some women and a 2/10 to others. So a less attractive dude can still be genuinely attractive to the girl you see on his side. And on the other hand, a conventionally attractive girl can turn out to do nothing for one individual man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 04:09 PM
2

I love how your interpretation is women cannot be attracted to conventionally unattractive men, but men can be to conventionally unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 03:43 PM
1

If his only exposure to the world was this subreddit, his belief would be understandable. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 03:39 PM
1

Attractive people are not the prize to everyone lol. I want someone who is attractive (to me) and a good person and with whom I can find a connection. Being attractive isn't enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 09:36 PM
1

Deciding not to engage in a relationship with someone is not shitty, but using certain words and phrases (such as "slut" or the male equivalent of "creep") as well as spreading questionable pseudoscience like TRP does can certainly be seen as shitty because of its potential harm to people. As you're pretty much repeating TRP lore one by one, I don't think we're gonna come to an agreement. I was, and still am, ambiguous on a lot things said here, but I've seen too much of the real world contradic…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 11:04 PM
1

It's sufficient to you and that's fine. Nobody's forced to partner up with anyone. Yes, a woman can be a rotten grape but that's what vetting is for: you date her and get to know her, you get a picture of her idea of relationships, love and intimacy. How she would react when things get complicated (run or work together to find a way). If you feel secure enough, you might call her your girlfriend, and are still free to break up any time. Nowhere I advocate to marry or impregnate her on the spot (…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 01:57 PM
1

You don't have to care about being hypocritical, but this is a debate sub. If I see hypocrisy, I will point it out. I'm also happy to point it out of women act in shitty, immoral ways. Because I don't think acting shitty is cool. No, it's not always an indication of low self-worth, but in the way this issue is framed by a lot of red pillers, it is. Many red pillers think having casual sex is the ultimate sign and proof of a man's worth and attractiveness to women. If you can get sex without comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 11:09 AM
1

You're obviously free to enforce that rule with the women you meet. While it does cut down your dating pool significantly (seeing as IIRC 50% of all women in the US had a casual encounter, and I'm pretty sure that figure is even higher with younger women), and I'd argue you could miss out on some amazing experiences with women who had casual sex before, you do you. I personally find it hypocritical for men who had casual sex to reject women for their casual sex experiences, but I know red piller…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/20 10:59 AM
2

It's astonishing to me how you seem to understand why high-n woman make bad long-term partners but still think they do make good partners. What they meant was that correlation is not causation. High n-count women are more likely to have personalities/issues that lead to unstable relationships, but there are also high n-count women who don't. The underlying reasons are the cause, not the n-count. It's like some spots on people's skin that are cancer in 50% and harmless birthmarks in 50% of all ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 11:17 PM
5

The reasons for that is her underlying personality that leads to both her high n-count and her behaviour of cheating/relationship instability. The n-count itself is not the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 11:14 PM
1

One night stands usually happen on the same day, so if a woman had those before, she would never be allowed to make a man she wants to date seriously wait for longer than a day according to your rule. Seems pretty impractical, and I'm sure most men who had casual sex themselves don't mind waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 11:11 PM
1

Women bad mkay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 06:22 PM
1

Okay but OECD stats show that sexual harassment and rape victims are primarily female.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 06:07 PM
1

It's not only Afghanistan, but also Western countries. Austria had 0.72 female victims of murder per 100,000 people compared to 0.59 male victims in 2016. In fact four European countries had more female murder victims. PPD is generally centered around the Western world I think. Additionally, rape and sexual harassment are alive and well in America too and I think most victims are women and most perpetrators men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 05:37 PM
1

Female victims are the majority of homocides in some countries in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 01:58 PM
1

I'm sorry about it, man. It's a very positive thing for one that you don't shower random social media chicks with compliments because not being a simp can be a very attractive trait in a man. Plus you mentioned in one post that people call you good looking, so I'm sure you're more attractive than those losers in the link. Seeing as you're independent with a job and in good shape, yes, I believe there are women who would want to choose you given the chance (unless there are other issues like Aspe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 01:30 PM
1

Sorry if I'm digging this up, but I'm curious. If you imagine your ideal partner and it would be someone whom you'd describe as "cute, short and soft in personality"...would you still feel sexually attracted to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 11:06 AM
1

Yeah, because there's so many men right swiping and messaging them, and she statistically has less interest in casual sex with randos. If she can allow herself to, of course she'll be picky. It's human nature. And I think a lot of men are just fuck-ups and it should be easy to elevate yourself from them. I know a lot of women are fuck-ups too, but they have something men want if they're still young and relatively pretty. And I'm sorry for your bad experiences. I can't say any more other than thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 09:01 AM
1

It sounds like your definition of alpha is being a natural leader in social settings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 08:49 AM
1

The OkCupid study exists, but what I didn't show to my knowledge is that all or even the overwhelming number of women rated the same subset of 20% of all men attractive and 80% as unattractive. Simply speaking, a guy can be an 8/10 to a particular woman and a 4/10 to many other women. Which is something I've experienced myself with some women I dated not really being into me while others asked me for casual sex. So while women are pickier, they also have varied tastes. Still, Tinder and OkCupid …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 12:25 AM
1

She might also be a crazy/weird person, how many matchmakers are there who quit their jobs because "women's expectations are too high" compared to those who are happy and content with their jobs? Also I think the kind of women who seek out matchmakers might not be a representative of the general population, I've never even heard of someone I know IRL who has used, or talked about a matchmaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 12:06 AM
1

You're my hero in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 11:59 PM
1

The match maker had to deal with a minority of all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 11:52 PM
1

Are there any sources for that claim with 60% of women not looking at those men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 11:22 PM
1

You fail to account that social media can also damage women's egos, not only "blow them out of proportion". A lot of girls and women develop eating disorders, depression and self-esteem issues because of unrealistic beauty standards perpetuated by influencers and social media personalities. Not all women think they are 8/10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 11:19 PM
1

Some of that 12% difference could be women who have sex with men over 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 11:16 PM
3

Russell Brand is over 6 foot and thus taller than most men on the planet. What are you on about with no natural alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 05:42 PM
3

It's hard to build those same memories with a used up jaded 35 year old with a super high n-count 'modern woman'. What stops you from making some exciting casual sex adventures in your 20s on your own? You don't need to be a top 20% man to do that, and it would put you even with many women you'd later encounter who made their own experiences. Yeah, some men and women are jaded, but everyone is free to reject those people and seek out those who are in balance and have dealt with their baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 05:38 PM
1

I doubt "hundreds of men" confide in you that they have terrible sex lives. Are you a therapist that has hundreds of clients? I'm not convinced without a source (I live in a different European country).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 03:50 PM
1

Do you have any data or sources for those claims for the Netherlands?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 02:08 PM
1

I wonder where that world that is full of women who hate you for having a dick, because I'm not living in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 11:35 AM
1

Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 11:31 AM
1

Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 11:30 AM
0

People break up all the time, so it would be possible that girl A has boyfriend A in 2019, and boyfriend B in 2020, so there would be enough women for all men to get relationship experience, although not at the same time. Additionally, on the intelligence distribution, men are overrepresented on the bottom and top while women are overrepresented in the middle, meaning that more men will be complete failures and if you're not one of those men, your chances are good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 09:51 AM
1

"I have observed that some people in this world are assholes. What is my conclusion? I know - I'm gonna be an asshole too!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 10:28 AM
1

If you want sex without dating somebody, just be honest instead of lying for god's sake. Or are you literally a 2/10?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 08:12 PM
1

What stats show it sucks for the average person? Please don't link the Medium study on Tinder because it has horrible methodology.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 01:08 PM
1

It only proves that some women exist who had no pride and were desperate for the intimacy with some men at one point. Those could be a small minority of all women. And we don't even know if all those men were conventional Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 10:50 AM
1

Because TRP doesn't cater to females like crazy LMAO. It's a whole subreddit centered on how to be chosen for sex/casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 08:25 AM
0

The way he worded it made me believe he dislikes the sexual expression of women and sex positivity in general, not simply because it reduces his dating options. There are many posts in the red pill suggesting these trends destroy society in general (low birthrates, divorces, destruction of the family unit, having casual sex with Chads only, feminism denouncing masculinity as evil, incel shooting sprees and so on). If it's this sexualization industry he dislikes, consuming porn IMO is still parta…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 09:44 AM
1

He can only see their bodies in porn films because women who chose to display their bodies and their sexuality exist in the first place (unless he watches porn involving sexual slavery or similar). It would be different if he masturbated to pictures of women whom he didn't despise. (like African tribeswomen in a National Geographic or something) So yeah, it's still hipocrisy in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 09:20 PM
6

"I'm absolutely disgusted by" implies a general disdain for their existence in the same world he lives in, not that he simply doesn't want to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 04:37 PM
1

Women of color are harassed too, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 02:13 PM
1

An old high school friend of mine is nearing 30, is finishing his master's degree and working, he's tall and has a normal looking face, and quite social (he's active in politics and used to play football in his hometown). He's sometimes expressed frustration for never having had a girlfriend or even sex, but doesn't seem to make any efforts to change this. The last time I met him, he said he didn't even care much about dating or relationships. Yet I'm sure he's hetero. So yes, some men are diffi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 01:55 PM
1

Unless you're a complete shut-in, you don't only live through media and consent leaflets. You will have relatives and friends to talk to, and witness other people going out and having dates. You'll see that it's totally normal and accepted to read signals, go in for the kiss, mutually escalate physical contact and be assertive when having sex. If some women appearing on media are the only information you have about the world, you must have your head stuck deep in the sand.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 01:41 PM
1

But no boobs and not hearing a high female voice moan and quiver when you thrust. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 10:53 AM
4

So you judge women for publicly displaying their sexuality while using products showing women displaying their sexuality to your own benefit? Isn't that hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 10:33 AM
2

In the time of the internet, if you aren’t getting laid, it’s less so society’s fault and more so your choice to be ignorant about what you need to do. I like your attitude so much more than the black pill loser mentality of "durr you're not Chad so you can never have casual sex and nobody will find you attractive" that is rampant in these parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 10:27 AM
1

If there's one thing I dislike about the homosexual world, it's the constant labelling of men by body types. You're not just a guy, you're an otter, twink, bear, hunk and so on, and I think it has a dehumanizing aspect to be put into those categories whether you want it or not. I've even seen a trans Youtuber (whose videos I actually like) call a straight guy a twink. Don't know if she realized how disrespectful that is, because no straight man wants to think of himself as "twink". Plus there's …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 10:18 AM
1

Couldn't there also be an inherent mystery in gay relationships? Sure, they are both the same sex, but people can differ wildly and there's no way to look into the other's mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 10:08 AM
2

Do you masturbate to porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 10:07 AM
1

Most instances of casual sex do not involve getting jizzed on. I would also argue the comparison with shit is inappropriate. Shit smells bad, it's bodily waste and most people are strongly put off by it. Semen is a byproduct of sex and lust, a proof of arousal and the stuff that can create human life. It's a turn on for many men and women. Giving semen to a sexual partner can be seen as symbol of intimacy and even affection under the right circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 07:19 AM
1

But why is it degrading? Also, the guy could have used a condom for all you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 11:39 PM
1

Goddamn you are sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 03:38 PM
1

Do you think heterosexual sex is inherently degrading to women? Why is mutually enjoyable sex between men and women within relationships fine, but mutually enjoyable, uncommited sex between men and women is "being someone's cum dumpster and not having respect" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 01:47 PM
1

I'm skeptical to this idea that choosing a life of casual sex and without commitment means women will be unhappy and shoot themselves in the foot, while serving the male imperative. A lot of young women find great joy and have great experiences while living this bachelorette life. It's not they're all lonely and wish for a steady boyfriend either - many women have a lot of friendships and a great relationship with their family while studying, travelling abroad and living single. They often don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 01:45 PM
1

I'm aware that many posters here have said so, and I can't comment on their situation other that I feel bad for them. Having to put of a veneer or even change your nature to be able to attract anyone sounds horrible. The lucky ones must be the men who are either naturally stoic and unemotional, or those who just find women who want them regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 03:07 PM
2

Learning to accept and dealing with your emotions is pretty important for your mental health. There's a reason men commit suicide at higher rates than women after a breakup and it's because they lack the friendships and outlets for their distress compared to women. And yeah, I know PPD is pretty hell bent on all putting the blame of all men's troubles on women because women supposedly find everything apart from the raw, archetypal idea of masculinity unattractive, but I don't buy it. I've been a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 10:09 AM
3

There are more things considered girly and unmanly than just those that are weak and cowardish..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 11:36 PM
1

With this type of posters, you can ask them where they see themselves and they either respond they're betas/incels or "lol I'm Chad and sleep with lots of women, I don't really care" although the second one is less convincing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 04:31 PM
1

Just to put some context to my comment, here's an example of this in the wild: All men truly desire fucking many women. Denying that is merely a defense to cope with the fact that you are unable to do so. Of course, wanting to fuck many women and wanting to raise a good family are not polar opposites. You can desire both. And betas generally desire both, whereas alphas only desire the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 04:13 PM
1

When guys police or call each other out for not being manly enough, is that a form of extended misogyny? If a guy is called a "sissy", a "bitch" or a girl (or is shamed for "running like a girl", "hitting like a girl", "crying like a girl") by other guys or women, is that because these people or society in general believe it's bad to be female? Some activists believe it is, when they claim men calling each other women is an "extension of misogyony". Is that true, or is it something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 12:53 PM
3

Some red pillers would say any man who says that is coping and secretely wishes he could have sex with thousands of women, but he isn't attractive enough to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 01:07 PM
1

Is your general point simply "women are worse humans than men" in the end? Genuine question.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/20 10:23 PM
3

It might be if some of those were long-term relationships that lasted for years.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/05/20 06:48 PM
1

Gosh...I would imagine there would be a lot of women who are at least willing to work on the problem for their relationships' sake. Or who come to the conclusion "I have enjoyed sex in the past. It's logical that I work on being able to enjoy it now!" But there are times when I wish I could be attracted to men when reading about these low libido issues. Still, it's only one snippet of the whole picture and relationships exist with a happy sex life enduring long-term. And I guess dating men comes…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/05/20 05:12 PM
1

If that were true there wouldn't be couples who stay together into old age and their deathbeds. One key is never to take them for granted and keep doing the small and big things.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/05/20 02:16 PM
1

Why don't they just don't prescribe testosterone to women with a low libido? Is it not that easy?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/05/20 11:59 AM
1

That's quite an interesting find, thank you. I would love to see more about the methodology and limitations. It also only measured short-term encounters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 12:56 AM
1

Would you say the same goes for TRP as to tell women what kind of damaged goods to avoid?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 12:47 AM
1

the more negative members and the moderators apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 12:33 AM
1

Well thanks for the compliment here. Again, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 11:19 PM
1

How is that proof an average dude will be talking to a higher tier woman 50% of the time? It only says 3 star men where only talking to higher tier women 50% of the time. Do you not see how your second sentence answers the question in the first sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 11:17 PM
1

Or because someone else was more interesting or quicker to ask her out, she got bored of you, or figured she doesn't want to see anyone right now. Women get ghosted/faded as well. I've got 3 active conversations with girls on apps as of right now, and deleted other matches before because they seemed off-putting while texting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:37 PM
1

men dont choose shit. after all, men propose and more often than not they get rejected. marriage rates are going down and it is women rejecting marriage. Proposing to a girl doesn't mean he'll say 'yes' to her for every day of their remaining lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:19 PM
0

The thing is that I don't know any scientifically proven effect within the human psyche that makes a woman "resent" the partners she has after she was "pumped and dumped by Chad". When posters make this claim, there is always an appeal to human logic ("of course she thinks about how hot Chad was while she is with Billy Beta, can't you see the obvious?") or of mere correlative effects (like the study wher higher n-count women had higher divorce rates, which might also be because high n women are …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:15 PM
2

Well, equally you could say it's the fault of other men that a man feels pressure to work out and have a built body, because if no man would work out, women would still sleep with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 06:06 PM
2

This is a comment from a "nice guys/neckbeards" thread on /r/cringepics I bookmarked many years ago, titled "a description of how much effort women have to put in to look nice". A woman describes the lengths she goes to look pretty while going out in bars, and yet the guy who isn't as attractive as her and puts no effort in his apperance still looks out for better looking chicks when he sees her without makeup. Thoughts from you folks?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 06:58 PM
1

Well good luck with that!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 03:38 PM
1

What implications did you draw for yourself? Did you swear off LTRs and stick to the lifelong bachelor way of life?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 01:28 PM
1

Oh, I'm still skeptical if it's the truth and hopeful to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 11:44 AM
1

A realistic understanding of married womens sexuality would definitely reduce the number of marriages that happen. Does she realize that's what she could be doing though? I guess it's more of a "men, do this to keep your wives happy and accept sex is doing to die down (but don't divorce)" philosophy for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 10:53 AM
1

Oh, but there is data that libido declines alongside cohabitating and LTRs, even without marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 07:17 PM
1

Thanks. I remember it now. It certainly can be said that children are a reinforcing factor from the study. Another factor I think is men becoming too comfortable, too "soft" (and perhaps beta if you wanna call it that) and stop romancing. I think this piece gives some good hints.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 06:24 PM
1

Could you link to the study so I know which one specifically you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:48 PM
1

Yeah, it makes sense to attribute it solely to alpha/beta traits from a red pill perspective. I don't think it's that simple though, but for me it's the wisest to say that I don't know. Children and housework could very well be a big reason though. If you read Mating in Captivity (which often gets referenced in discussions about this phenomenon) the author points out that many women tend to form an extremely close, sensual, blissful and almost erotic bond to their children. One that can involve …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:35 PM
2

Oh, yeah. Wednesday Martin is another amplifier of that agenda. She's been around in quite a lot of media outlets saying husbands, gift your wives an affair for christmas because they desire it and you're just not enough for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 03:45 PM
1

I’m probably not the best source of advice for you because you already didn’t like my worldview Holy shit. I guess it's fine if someone who's active in a social justice movement says that, but a relationship psychologist should have no issue with their client's worldviews as long as it's about giving advice. I mean, telling someone to break up with their partner if their sex life remains unsatisfying is still better than saying "all womens' libido drops in LTRs, deal with it buddy lol" like she'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 01:49 PM
1

I've seen the studies, but I remain skeptical on the reasons and whether this is something that will come up in 100% (or even 50%) of all healthy relationships. Even the authors of these studies acknowledge they can only speculate on the causes. And there's the other side of it too: relationships where women find themselves unhappy because their men don't put out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 10:18 AM
1

You mean talking to women in the sense of soothing women's insecurities and bad feelings about promiscuous pasts and lowered libido?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 08:37 AM
3

Actually I'd argue it's not common knowledge that a woman's libido would be killed through monogamy. It would make women look pretty bad, too. The trope of a woman being exhausted because of kids and because husband doesn't do chores is more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 08:35 AM
1

IMO, the position that "your wife will stop wanting sex with you and there's nothing you can do about it, sorry buddy" is very concerning and defeatist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:20 PM
9

This is a blog I stumbled upon some time ago and thought would be quite interesting for some posters here to discuss. I've barely seen it referenced here. With one word, I would call it "femicentric". My Girlfriend Was “Cheap” and Slept With Other Guys Before Me And I Can’t Get Over It It starts with a letter from someone who found out his gf was promiscuous in the past and who isn't happy about it (a common subject here). The relationship psychologist basically tells him to suck it up and that …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:19 PM
1

3) You can indefinitely secure commitment from men by learning how to be pleasant, avoid aggressive argumentation, quell nagging, and learn some measure of domestic skills. So men are perfect and if a relationship fails, it's 100% and in all cases the woman's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 02:33 PM
1

Got ya. Oh yeah, I love necroing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 11:30 AM
1

That's actually a very reasonable standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 11:48 AM
1

Are there no women who struggle to forget their super pleasant ex? And why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:50 PM
1

Or it's learning not to take any shit and standing up for yourself as you get older. Some women do things with their bf at 20 because they think it's their duty, or it's what you're supposed to do in love, don't enjoy them, learn and at 25 don't do such things anymore - because they don't want to. Red pillers are the same: some said they were romantic nice guys in their younger days and learned to stand up for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:48 PM
1

It's very possible that high partner counts in women are correlated with mental issues, substance abuse issues, childhood abuse, low self-esteem....and that those things, instead of alpha widowism, are the primary reason for the higher divorce rate with higher partner counts. Still, you've made your decision it seems. So my question is: would you only ever marry/LTR a woman who's a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:36 PM
1

After 3 years. 3 years of wasted opportunity of meeting a girl who isn't broken. Not the wisest decision in the world looking back.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:21 PM
1

Cute face, nice ass, nice rack Don't forget don't be overweight and don't be old.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 12:28 PM
1

What kind of itch?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 09:36 AM
1

You're arguing women always marry unattractive dudes and that they all do it because he provides resources, which I don't agree with as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 08:53 AM
1

It's interesting because the "coping" insinuation could've unsettled me a bit if I were me 3 or 4 years ago. But I was successful enough to find genuine connections and experience with women that made me shake off and laugh about a lot of RP brainwashing (not everything, which is why I'm still here lol). So yeah, I don't buy that there is only one model of a conventionally attractive man that all women will find super attractive (there's research around this too showing women's preferences vary)…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 11:44 PM
1

And I don't believe in the strict classification of Chads and non-Chads to begin with, so I don't know what to tell you. Attraction has many facets and there's different notions on what is attractive (although yes, trends exist). An attractive guy can be a total wimp which surely makes him unattractive to a lot of women (and in turn, an assertive, confident man can become more attractive because of his demeanor). It's possible that a woman feels no attraction towards a man who is conventionally …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 09:42 PM
1

That's harsh. It also doesn't make much sense, no self-respecting man would be pleased to hear he can provide resources in exchange for not being as sexually attractive to you. It's a total lose-lose situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:12 PM
2

I was cross eyed until I had surgery. Highly recommend if it's possible in your situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 03:19 PM
1

Yes it does. Because with a relationship I am also looking for a lot of other traits besides good looks and making sure he's not going to murder me. So I am willing to stay with a guy who's less attractive because he's bringing other things to the table. With the hookup I'm just getting the sexual experience so I'm not worried about long-term compatibility. It's not too hard to find a guy who is very attractive but I have nothing in common with. Would you have empathy with a guy you're dating lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 02:58 PM
1

But isn't it true that being with an attractive guy doesn't guarantee good sex? Most women can't orgasm from PIV sex alone and many complain that men, especially during hookups, can be very selfish lovers. Why not vet for things like if the guy values giving the other partner pleasure, if he's charming and seems like he isn't a selfish asshole, and so on? The hottest guy possible could be horrible at sex because all he cares about is getting himself off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 02:56 PM
1

That's the dumbest thing I read this week.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 02:15 PM
1

There difference between the two situations might be that the guy who is still longing for 18-25 year olds has a higher base libido, so he will more likely want to have regular sex with his spouse even as she gets older. A woman on the other hand might find herself not attracted to her husband and could lose most if not all interest in sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 01:57 PM
1

But there is no guarantee your kids will take care of you, many older people are pushed off into nursing homes and never visited by their kids. Additionally, "just have kids" is arguably a mentality that accelerates the destruction of the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 01:41 PM
1

Things will get easier once you're 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 01:39 PM
1

Oooor...don't be an asshole and look for people who are also not assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 04:21 PM
1

I disagree but take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 12:44 PM
1

That's a semantics issue you're bringing up, and I'm not really buying it. Humans are social animals and while men are arguably less social and into people than women are, plenty of men enjoy socializing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 12:32 PM
1

Guys don't talk to people as a hobby. What else is catching up with your bros, talking about cars, sports and girls you picked up?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:56 AM
1

Because it doesn't happen to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:49 AM
1

Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:47 AM
1

Or dating apps that aren't as toxic as Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:11 AM
0

Still not all fine and dandy for non-upperclass women, considering women attempt suicide more often than men, are unhappier in relationships than being single and all the talk about educated women having difficulties finding partners with an equal education level.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:05 AM
1

She's active on FemaleDatingStrategy, a community that is like the female TRP. Not really a prime example of a woman with a healthy mindset towards love and relationships. And yeah, I totally understand you felt disheartened by such narratives. That's why it's important to give contrasting viewpoints a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 10:55 AM
1

Pretty hard to argue against it on PPD, to be honest. I could argue that I still have good friends, that my previous gf didn't care I had no group pics and 25 followers on Insta, but black pillers will twist and bend everything to fit their agenda like "your friends are probably also weirdos", "doesn't matter because you're good looking and your gf only cared about that", "doesn't matter because she was a unicorn", "doesn't matter because teens nowadays need to have group pics and followers and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 10:40 AM
1

Spontaneously searched the sub for a term, I think it was "shaming", and found this thread. Please don't come at me with this "dude this post is X months old" meme, it's annoying as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 10:41 PM
1

A lock is only supposed to let the right keys in and block "wrong keys". A woman who has enjoyable sex with men she wants to have sex with isn't like a broken lock, more like a working one, unless she later regrets most of the sex she has.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:49 PM
1

Why should one be shamed for doing something only because it comes easy to them (women having sex with men)? Isn't that like shaming a man for being able to run fast because his legs are long?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:47 PM
1

Good LARPing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:03 PM
1

That's a world where you'd belong. Without getting to be the Mountain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 03:34 PM
1

I totally agree with you. Luckily, these guys' prospects for a 1950s like society won't come true anytime soon in the Western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 03:29 PM
2

Adult women having consensual sex that results in unwanted pregnancies/abortions is just viscerally disgusting. It's a childish thing to happen to someone that claims to be an adult. So you would have sex for procreation only?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 03:22 PM
2

Since this comment turned from "what problems of the opposite gender are you not sympathethic to" to yet another instance of "women are pretty bad, mkay?", I'll counter that many of the observed cases of hypocrisy (wanting to be accepted for a high n-count, yet rejecting low or high n-counts themselves) could be a case of different women saying/doing different things. Hypocrisy is generally seen as a pretty shitty thing by most humans, and it's a sign of maturity to not act as hypocrite. If wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:06 PM
1

Page 7: It is notable that whereas only 2 males gave themselves the lowest self-perceived attractiveness rating on the scale, 14 females rated themselves that low (see Figures 2 and 3). These findings are consistent with past studies that report that men tend to overestimate their attractiveness (e.g. Abbey, 1982; Haselton & Buss, 2000; Saad & Gill, 2009).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 11:53 PM
1

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/social-instincts/201507/when-men-arent-good-looking-they-think
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 06:06 PM
1

Yet research shows men are more likely to overestimate their own attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:01 PM
1

The guys were shit in which ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 01:54 PM
1

On the other hand you also have the option to approach far more women than you could before, and possibly seen by a few out of those many women who are attracted to exactly your type.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:50 PM
1

Sure, I just think it would be disingenuous to claim that human males are prettier when that's a very contested question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 08:03 PM
1

Both men and women find women the prettier gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 05:11 PM
1

What can MRP do to change this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 11:26 PM
1

Got ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 10:49 PM
14

Hell, if women liked and wanted casual sex as much and as often as men, there wouldn't be so many men here crying about how only Chads fuck all the women casually. Chad simply doesn't have the time to do 80% of women. It's hard to get for men precisely because most women just aren't interested in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 10:21 PM
1

Good point. If it's public accounts, you could argue that societal rules play a role though. They don't wanna get shit stormed for showing their sexual side, which probably doesn't happen because it's so normal right now (among younger generations).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 10:03 PM
0

Sex is not for an incentive for women to interact with men. For those women looking for someone to scratch their itch once in a while, it kinda is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:55 PM
2

Would you say women are shamed for embracing their sexuality, while men are celebrated for being hypersexual at the same time? Cause one could make the argument that this is contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:54 PM
1

casualization of rhetoric around sex that isn't casual itself at all Care to give some examples so I can wrap my head around this? Like a tweet that says "longing to get dicked right now" and when she writes that, she imagines it's with her long distance partner or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:51 PM
1

So logic says if America becomes majority muslim, women would not have rights. The only way to avoid this is to raise birth rates. As for the other bit, that's like saying "I don't believe in global warming, so let's not do anything about for 50 years." Not necessarily, for a number of reasons: 1) Birth rates of migrants definitely decrease over time. People generally have less kids as they become more wealthy, there is clear correlation on this. See the book "Factfulness" by Hans Rosling. 2) Ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:09 PM
2

I admire your fantasy and capacity of twisting and bending facts to suit your worldview. Yeah I don't really believe migrants will cave out women's rights in the West to get us back tio the 50s, but we can't know the future, so let's get back to this conversation in 2050 to see who was right. As with most outrage porn and "our world is oh indeed horrible for men, can't you see?" posters your tag will probably read [deleted] in 6 months or so. Unless you count money which is time, then men donate…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 10:38 AM
1

I'd rather have the chance to awesome sex, even if that only happens occasionally, than be doomed to a life of starfish sex. No thank you, that shit sucks. A tiny fraction of men? Small (but not small enough), yet much larger than the proportion of women who commit such acts. What? Your sentence "Men care about women, women care about themselves." implies men are more altruistic towards women than women towards men, and that women act out of self-interest or for the interest of their own sex, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 05:59 PM
1

Lol no, I'm not Chad (although far from ugly) and have had some pretty amazing sex already, without having to finance a woman's life and having to commit to her. "Men care about women", oh sure softhandsam. Tell that to the men who rape and murder women. Even "nice guys" act nice and chivalrous because they do hope to get a girlfriend and some sex for themselves if everything is done (which is alright, people are naturally self-interested). Why don't you "care about" a woman by following a Twitc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:56 AM
1

If starfish sex is worth that much to you, yeah, that could sound nice. Also, who cares about those who weren't white straight men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 11:07 PM
1

the difference between a healthy pregnancy or a traumatic one Should make a woman think about picking a partne who is significantly taller. It could make the baby bigger and thus the pregnancy more dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 10:35 PM
1

What tells you the majority of those marriages weren't sexless after the kids were born, though. Women were expected to be prude and sexual fulfillment was a niche thing. Not to mention the domestic violence and discrimination of anyone who wasn't straight and white. At least a man can easily leave his relationship and try find someone he is truly sexually compatible with, nowadays, instead of being stuck in a sexless mariage. Even though it can be hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 10:31 PM
1

their rooms online AKA here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 10:22 PM
1

Because only those Chads go to, and have fun at parties and festivals LMAO. In my own (painful) experience, it's the inhibitions inside you that cripple you from doing well as social events, a thousand percent more than your looks. Totally average guys (average according to the actual definition) are doing fine there, if they are sociable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 10:20 PM
1

Well the majority of men reproduce in the US at least currently. It'll be interesting to see how the numbers of young men without sexual experiences (which currently stands at 30% according to some studies) will develop as those men get older in the next 10 or 20 years, and new generations grow up. I'm still skeptical about 30% of all men supposedly having no luck at all, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 10:13 PM
2

Yes, the reality that a large share of users on this sub paint, is a dark and grim one. The "but" however ist that real life out there isn't much like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:22 PM
0

Well, you wrote men care less about looks, not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 05:23 PM
1

This is wrong. Casual sex is only 100% about looks when it comes to the top 10 and bottom 10% of the looks percentiles. The top 10% because super attractive guys can get away with a lot of shit and some women will be down to fuck them no matter what (and that is a limited amount of women because some will care if the guy isn't an asshole) and the bottom because those guys are so hideous that most women aren't interested in them no matter what (and again, even in that case there will be a limited…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 08:58 AM
0

Men care more about looks and youth when selecting partners. Women care more about things like financial assets and socioeconomic status. This is well proven by science.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 05:15 PM
1

As a general rule. There can still be women who are willing to have sex pretty quickly (and there are) just like ther are men who become someone's "boyfriend" pretty quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 04:52 PM
1

Could be reasons other than physical attractiveness though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 04:51 PM
1

Well it sure as hell won't be the poster who has the tag "not good enough for casual sex" LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 04:46 PM
1

Kinda ironic when TRP peddles the tradcon school at the same time with some of its supporters shaming both career women as well as housewives who "drain heir beta buxes' money".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 04:30 PM
4

She must have pushed some of his buttons in ways that elude us outside onlookers. Perhaps she reminded him of his mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 04:14 PM
1

It's a fallacy to put red pillers on the side of logic and "real life" and then put feminists and women altogether (which are 3.5 billion people, come one) on the side of emotions and therefore incapable of logic and being part of a debate. Even without considering one is a demographic group while the other are people who consciously chose to identify with a hateful, regressive belief system (so it's consistent to argue one group is insane), what about all the women who are successful in profess…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 09:27 PM
1

Red pillers talk shit about women all the time, who gave them the right to talk about people like that, while women have no right to talk badly about red pillers according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 06:36 PM
2

A mother who just had a newborn son certainly won't think of hims as disposable. Except from certain happenstances like post-partum depression her love for her child will be instinctive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 06:20 PM
3

Lol you sound like Roosh V before he took the god pill and was still trying to appeal to teenagers with his outrage content. What are you planning to do when you're 50, then? Still hanging around in bars trying to pick up 20 year olds (which let's face is, is gonna get you a lot of rejection no matter how hard you work out/groom) or constantly go on sex trips to Thailand? Sounds fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 11:10 AM
3

Am I out of touch? No, it's the men in happy relationships who are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 11:15 PM
3

Men are statistically happier when in a relationship compared to single men. Looks like women, especially romantic partners, are a net benefit for men. Perhaps men should seek more male friendships to talk about their feelings? A partner can't burden everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 05:20 PM
10

On this subreddit they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 05:14 PM
1

/r/iamverybadass
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 05:13 PM
1

Guess again with the virgin part. Question though, when it comes to serious dating, would you be open to give a woman with a similarly promiscuous background as you a chance? Or are you just not into LTRs at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 11:19 AM
1

Idk I just think it'd be pretty off-putting for many girls to be the lay of the guy who's known to hit on every girl in his friend group. Like when two girlfriends talk about it and one says "MikepGrey hit on me the other day" and her friend goes "oh that guy...he hits on EVERY GIRL around. You would be just another lay for him." Many girls want sex to feel special and don't wanna be a conquest of someone who says yes to every occasion with evry one. Of course there's those who just want sex for…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 12:18 AM
1

Doesn't answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 11:27 AM
1

Doesn't that mean that eventually you'll be known as "the guy who hits on EVERY girl" in your friend circle, and girls will be put off by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 10:53 AM
1

Obviously can't comment on your individual situation, but I gotta call BS on the second sentence. Saying "it doesn't matter" is weird...if a man only has few encounters with women who find him attractive, and those lead to satisfying sexual experiences/relationships, that matters a lot. You say 7 women found you attractive. Since "it doesn't matter" according to you, do you think your life, confidence and general happiness would be exactly the same as if 0 women in your whole life found you attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 05:51 PM
1

Plenty of men will go their entire lives without a single woman initiating to have sex or hit on them. Which doesn't mean those men will go their entire lives without encountering someone who finds them attractive. They may not be approached simply because women are more passive in terms of dating, but can have success if they approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:49 AM
1

How do you make the move? Do you bluntly ask, do you shoot hints that you could sleep with each other, or do you become straight out physical?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:47 AM
1

Of course they have the ability. Every man has the ability to choose hitting on a woman vs. being single. That is being selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 11:34 AM
1

just because something looks fixed doesnt mean it actually. His jawline didnt change at all, just how it looks changed....which is your perception. He still has the same jaw, nothing changed from his perspective. These men don't complain they don't like their looks from their own perspective. Yes, they do, but their main problem seems to be that women don't find them attractive. If a man's jaw looks better due to a better fitting haircut, of course that matters and makes a difference. If it make…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:03 PM
3

I think he meant that it's hypocritical in relation to the blue pill mainstream worldview that these women might share. Such as if they say "you're a nice guy, of course you will find someone" or that they can't understand how abusive relationships happen and then have these fetishes and fantasies of being violated themselves. Their preferences would be part of the reason why these things happen, but I'm not sure if that was his thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 10:44 AM
1

By that logic, would men who became victims of violence not also develop fantasies that involved them being victims?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 10:42 AM
3

More like wanting something and the likelihood of doing it in reality are often very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 10:39 AM
1

Why was he banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/20 10:29 AM
1

What do you make of the relationship/sexual opportunities of non-hot asshole guys vs. non-hot kind guys though? With all the focus on the advantages and opportunities to draw in and manipulate people that the dark triad brings, there there have been some that argued that, for example, the "bad boy biker" type doesn't even need to be physically handsome, ripped, tall, etc. and that he has success simply because he's an asshole, a narcissist, tough, dominates other men, etc. Simply put, how does 5…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 06:42 PM
1

Sure, you can learn valuable things from RP, but I think threads like these tend to focus on genetic Chads, that top 5% of man who just has the amazing looks and physics that makes them so successful with women. This is something no advice rulebook can give you. I argue that this isn't necessary to vet women, though. Women don't let you vet? How does that play out? Like "we've been meeting for three weeks, either we're going steady now or we're over?" That is also a red flag. A man who has his s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:23 PM
1

All of what you wrote has no connection to the statement that "Chads can afford not to take care of N-count". There is no requirement of being Chad to vet your partners and make sure they don't possess the negative values that might be connected to a high n-count (mental conditions, substance abuse, being an "alpha widow", unable to pair bond, is likely to look for quick gratification). An unattractive man can, and should do that, and the fact that he can't get partners easily doesn't change tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 04:15 PM
1

People with less skin in the game can afford to be less judgemental. [...] They might think as badly of high-N as less chadly men, they can just AFFORD not to care, or act like they don't care (because they still win if they get their dick wet with little effort). Explain this part, please. Because it seems you got it backwards. If anything, desirable men can afford to be MORE judgemental, since they have options. Less desirable men might not be able to afford to be judgemental, since they poten…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 03:17 PM
3

I'm confused at your comment. Does simply pointing out that not all big dicks look big when flaccid equal "offering someone dick"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 10:53 PM
5

Monster cocks are like 0.2% of the male population, sounds brutal to limit yourself so badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 05:40 PM
7

Wome overestimate men's penis size, especially if it's with a man they've fallen in love with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 05:35 PM
2

Flaccid size is not the same as erect size.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 05:32 PM
1

That's cool, and of course women like you exist. But it's hardly debatable men have higher sex drives on average because of their higher testosterone. There's loads of scientific evidence behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 01:27 PM
1

Indeed. I think when the claim comes up "the French actually liked their German occupiers" it's best to bring reason to bear. The French probably preferred to live in freedom and be ruled by French instead of German leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 07:12 PM
2

Cheating and emotional manipulation is bad = bullshit young people believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:50 PM
1

They were the men fighting invaders while the women became German whores. You must know this is a false equivalency.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:28 PM
1

Well the "widespread sympathy" surely crumbled during the years of occupation. The liberation of France was widely celebrated after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 04:23 PM
1

If she was a virgin when you got together, it's obviously a quite different story than a lot of what is told on this subreddit. Which is the trope of the girl who slept around a lot and then decides to make a dating prospect wait - possibly because she realizes he's not that attractive, doesn't have many other options and will probably not bail if she doesn't put out for a while (which therefore ties in with the whole AF/BB model).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 02:03 PM
2

If a girl has those views on sex and it fits her general personality, it's totally fine. If she's had casual sex and hook-ups before and says she has changed and now prefers to wait, no thanks. She can choose another guy to wait with. No hard feelings though, I would tell her this friendly and sincerely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 12:41 AM
1

Did she have sex with other guys sooner before she met you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 12:38 AM
1

I wanted to say I disagree because I don't believe sexuality and attraction are only driven by biology, but then I saw you didn't say that either: you said mostly by biology. And I agree with that, it's driven by biology but society does play a role. Different cultures have different beauty standards, for example. Height is seen as an attractive trait for men in many Western countries, but it plays a lesser role in Brazil, for example, but it still can still bring benefits there. An attractive f…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/19 11:31 PM
1

105:100 is the natural birth ratio. More men than women die until they become 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 02:19 PM
1

That's mostly because of asylum seekers. Those don't have great dating prospects anyway. It also means there should be a woman surplus in many of the countries where the migrants came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 02:19 PM
1

It's a fallacy to uphold what is "natural" human behaviour, or to take what evolutionary psychologists tell us is natural without looking at cultural factors or how the world actually looks like. A lot of modern human life is anything else but natural, and if we only take human "nature" as benchmark, we might as well abandon our flats and cities and computers and return to living in woods and savannas. For example, while you might say famous, attractive men probably all cheat or would have polyg…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 01:19 PM
1

Not anywhere close to being the claimed 80/20 distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 12:31 PM
1

Could be an interesting study, but what does it have to do with the discussion? I mean, your views put men into a pretty bad light. That's for sure. Could be something femcels would gladly eat up. Attractive men don't give a shit about relationships and mainly want women for sex, and I'm guessing since women have an easier time cheating, you'd say most of them cheat, too? And the only reason less attractive men choose relationships and don't cheat is because they have to? And that it's a cold wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 10:38 PM
1

The study concludes more attractive men are more likely to have a higher n-count, as well as more likely to have (short-term?) relationships that are all about sex. There can still be plenty of attractive men who prefer to have relationships. A man can sleep around and amass a high n-count within a year, and then be serially monogamous for 10 years, for example. easily observable reality Brad Pitt, Chris Pratt, Ryan Gosling, Chris Hemsworth, Channing Tatum...all attractive men with massive statu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 08:12 PM
1

I tend to disagree with you on a lot of things. I disagree that crimes against men are not reported. I disagree that all cases of abuse happen because women ignore red flags within men. I disagree that women are to blame for getting abused because they partner up with abusive men. I disagree that only Chads are assholes. Yes, a person is partially responsible for badly selecting the people they allow into their life, but the perpetrator always carries the main responsibility. If you're a good ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 05:19 PM
2

So crimes are no big deal when they happen within an intimate circle? And women who partner with men who might one day become violent had it coming? Most rapes and sexual assaults are never reported. Even if crimes are underreported it doesn't change the facts that the vast majority of violent crimes are committed by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 03:50 PM
1

And actually the most attractive men aren't in relationships.They are having casual sex. Source please
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 02:21 PM
2

The vast majority of murderers, physical assaulters and rapists are men. According to the UN, 96% of all perpetrators of murder in the world are men. Of all the women murdered in the US, one third is murdered by an intimate partner. 650,000 women in the US were raped or sexually assaulted in 2018. It's bullshit to say women do not have to worry about rape or violence in a western country.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 01:53 PM
1

I actually think that incel is more an attitude rather a look. Yup. Incel is also much more of a self-ascription than ascription from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 12:56 PM
1

Well, let's hope that type of sorority girl doesn't make a guy wait a couple of weeks for sex once she's seriously dating, LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 12:52 PM
1

Yeah, modern society pressures a lot of people into squeezing into certain shapes, whether they feel good in those shapes or not. Which is why you really have to find your niche and people who think alike, and never be afraid to ask for what you want (and even more importantly, assert what you do not want).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 12:04 PM
1

Got any source for that? Pornhub stats don't seem to confirm it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 11:22 AM
1

Well it also doesn't help that young men are nowadays socialized with the ideas that women all around the world like submissive, rough sex. If a man grows up today with the internet, popular culture and social media, he will see countless of young, Western women who openly admit they are totally into getting spanked, their hair pulled, treated rough, being called dirty sluts and acting out submissive BDSM roles. Even stars like Rihanna have said so. That can pressure men and give them the idea t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 11:15 AM
2

It wasn't really meant as a joke, more as an optimistic outlook into the future, but I can see how it can appear to be a mocking comment. If a man is hindered by his height in the present, he can try to maximize other positive, attractive qualities he has, possibly with bulking up or plastic surgery (think of Zac Efron as a positive example). As a last possible resort, limb lengthening surgery is a viable option to many men that should be taken with extreme caution. It shouldn't be about being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:44 PM
2

Invest a lot of money in stem cell research.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 01:54 PM
1

Ya, but some of these accounts are pretty hard conflicts with TRP/black pill lore, let's not kid ourselves here. Betas do get laid, but only through beta buck relationship starfish sex that women secretely despise. Casual sex is the ultimate validation of a man's attractiveness, according to the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 08:23 PM
1

They're having casual sex with "betas" if we follow that classification lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 08:07 PM
1

Zac Efron?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 06:33 PM
2

I don't know any man at that height who's successful with women, because I don't know any man at that height, to be honest. There's two actors who come to my mind though, Kevin Hart, who has a hot wife, and Peter Dinklage, whom you mentioned, who's much shorter. The usual response to this would be "duh, they're famous actors, they have money and fame, they don't count" but my response is that becoming a successful actor requires a lot more than getting hot chicks to sleep with you, insane levels…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 07:41 AM
1

Fuck your negativity, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 11:22 PM
1

Well, Kevin Hart is that height I think, and he has a pretty hot gf. There's also millions of Indian women out there shorter than our hero. A lot of potential targets for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 11:21 PM
1

Check this thread. A lot of it comes from photo angle, and most guys will be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 11:18 PM
1

Kinda proving OP's point with half of your 4 LTRs, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 10:12 PM
1

Did you lose interest in those 2 LTR's after 2 years or did your partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 10:03 PM
1

that transition from the female mate-seeking mindset to the house mommy mindset What I don't get is why would the transition to a "house mommy mindset" be inevitable in an LTR? I get that having to take care of the whole household and possibly the kids in a marriage can make a woman feel undesired, and that she will build resentment if the man refuses to partake in that work...this can kill her libido...but if he's a mature guy who knows how to live independently, clean after himself and isn't a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 09:33 PM
1

As Western men lost these privileges, paired with women gaining equal rights and sexual freedom, enforced monogamy moves more and more towards a “winner takes all” sexual marketplace, shaped by female hypergamy (the top 5-10% of males getting 50-80% of the women with more casual dating, i.e. a growing portion of men remaining completely sexless – which current numbers confirm,the numbers of men having no sex at all doubling in 10 years, while women’s frequency remains constant) I gave a lot of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 09:20 PM
1

It's just that the manosphere has an insane amount of crazy content and bullshit statements, and the coherence/agreement on their theoretical basement is often not there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 06:34 PM
1

Well, there are gay men in CEO positions, such as the CEO of Apple. Not really a female matrix.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 06:43 PM
1

Absolutely. In fact, one of my friends, who's a gender studies professor believes that fastest way to enact a change in the behavior of men, is for women to start rewarding it with sex. I wish one would just propose this theory in /r/AskFeminists. I would love to see the reactions/discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 06:32 PM
1

Studies show that gay men have more body-image issues, so no. And race is a huge factor in the gay community if you look at their subs. Gay men have sex because they try to be attractive. I tend to believe you with the stuff about gay men rating men harshly in those subreddits, but that's just a hard no, sorry. Men have a much higher libido and want sex much more often than women. Countless of studies have confirmed that gay men have much more sex and many more sexual partners than both straight…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/19 06:30 PM
1

This may be anecdotal, but gay subreddits seem to be way more brutal than women when it comes to assessing members. Didn't take a look at gay subreddits so I can't confirm or deny this. But I've often heard the claim (from the gay side) that "we take care of our folks", meaning that gay men of all looks, ages and personalities manage to have sex with other members of their community just fine. This is backed up by straight dudes telling stories how they are approached in gay bars, something they…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 12:51 AM
0

I love how incels are all about black pills and cold scientific truths but then do things like pulling conclusions, that the studies they cite don't support at all, out of their ass, or mix up correlation and causation, or cite studies conducted in 1992.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 12:40 AM
4

And women are more often taking care of children, which is a valuable thing to do but isn't work that generates money and thus isn't taxed. Still, it's adding value to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 05:43 PM
1

These reasons include having a moral compass.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 05:11 PM
1

Some women are disgusting just like some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 01:32 PM
2

Chadfishing didn't show all the girls who didn't like or message the child molester though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 01:31 PM
2

I mean no but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 01:43 AM
4

it's no fun debating someone with 0 life or dating experience to validate their theories with Don't forget my favorite type of black piller: "Oh, I have a great sex life and no trouble at all. I just know the majority of men struggle horribly from observation."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 01:41 AM
1

Perhaps you've got a point that too many men don't place enough effort in their appearance and that's the reason for the discrepancy you stated. However, there's more than a marginal amount of women who don't find men attractive because of their height and there's also some women who reject men for their penis size. Where do you place that in the model of comparing straight and lesbian men and women? Are there lesbian women who reject women for unchangeable characteristics of their bodies? Are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 04:36 PM
1

If the same action is taken, then the same benefit is created for the same number of people. The intention behind the action makes no difference at all. I agree. My thinking was that the two different mindsets/goals (being moral to be attractive to women vs. being moral for the good of your community) will result in different actions, or a different amount of actions, which have different moral values. Giving 5 dollars to a bum while being on a date with a girl is valuable, but it's less valuabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 10:19 AM
1

That is also a tactical move. Not a moral one. I don't care about the reason why people act in such way. If men follow a moral code out of convienience then that is fine by me. In practice it makes no difference. I agree with that. Both can't be seen as perfectly selfless when they both serve the ulterior motive of passing on one's own genetics. There is still a moral difference though, more people benefit when a person does something for the good of their community than when they simply try to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 11:21 PM
1

Those guys can get laid even if they play videogames or are fans of sports teams. What? Millions of men are incels or complain about having trouble getting laid. Just look at this subreddit. Look at the stats showing a whole third of young men are still without any sexual experience. Those men are not doing everything possible to increase their chances. Clearly a lot of men are fine enough not getting laid, or their fear of facing rejections is stronger than their biological urge to procreate. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 02:57 PM
1

If for some reason the consequence of "creating and being productive" is that women are no longer willing to fuck you I interpreted that comment differently. I saw it as the situation where creating and being productive are not unattractive to women, but rather neutral. If doing those things was not attractive but also not unattractive, men would keep doing it. I agree that men, at large, do things to be attractive to women. I don't agree it's their only motivation and I'd be skeptical whether i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 09:37 AM
1

and is the inverse of this true as well? if a misogynist male sleeps with a feminist girl does that suddenly invalidate his misogyny and make him a covert feminist because he's associating with someone he disagrees with? A typical misogynist thinks things like "women are only good for sex" or "women are so dumb they will sleep with me even though I don't give a shit about them", so for him, sleeping with a feminist girl would not make him a hypocrite. If he's the type of misogynist to think men …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 12:16 AM
1

Is being homosexual and acting stereotypically gay an alternative model of masculinity? Because some of those types of people get up pretty high in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 12:03 AM
1

Don't know if your post was sarcastic, but if you really believe most men in this world would stay at home and start actin girly if women weren't turned off by it, I think you're wrong. A lot of men have a desire to create and be productive, and going to work is one way of living that desire out. It's not just because of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/19 11:57 PM
1

I mean, someone still has to agree to have sex with you no matter in what context you met them. It's not like a girl is gonna think "yeah, he's kinda ugly, but I met him at Walmart instead of at the club, so let's sleep with him." Or did you mean that a guy can approach someone in day game settings and it will be a "dating" approach instead of a "hook-up" approach, which makes the girl believe it will be more than just a hook-up? Also, when going out at night, alcohol is often involved. That can…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 08:42 AM
1

Here's some touches from a thread I have in my bookmarks from a couple of years ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/lut8q/study_confirms_wealth_distribution_in_united/c2vupqa/ Income disparity is a huge factor in societal instability, because it reflects a lack of fairness or opportunity for social mobility. Until recently, the best bulwark the elite had against danger from those poorer than them came in the form of the middle class. If people have homes, careers, stuff to lose, they…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 08:38 AM
1

Sure, it makes sense that wealth distribution developed the way it is today, especially in long times of peace and prosperity (no wars which set things back). It still brings issues though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 10:22 PM
1

Haha, to be fair there's been so many users here who wrote that it's a horrible experience for men. My point still stands though, it's not part of the common knowledge or popular culture that decent, regular men are "not doing well" with hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 10:05 PM
1

I don't want a lot of money just for existing, just pointing out that a pretty smart guy agreed a too unequal distribution causes problems for society. One being that political power can be bought and that can make the world more unjust. Also, people can pay other people without 1% owning 60% of the world's wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 10:03 PM
1

There will be fewer winners, so fight tooth and nail to be among them, but it's an uphill battle that will get worse, not easier I would disagree with that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 09:54 PM
1

Lol, I'm curious why approaching woman during the day helps an ugly man though?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 09:10 PM
1

Even Franklin Roosevelt pointed out the societal probems that a too unequal distribution of incomes cause though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 09:02 PM
1

I want to add that it's not common knowledge or a widely assumed position that hook-ups or hook-up apps are hard and unfulfilling for the average guy. This: If you're not an attractive man, youre not going to do well on a hook up app. That this even needs to be said speaks volumes. might be something that doesn't need to be said on this subreddit, but it's far from what everybody knows or agrees with in the offline world. To give some examples, I've heard radio hosts on popular radio stations ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 06:42 PM
1

The study posted on Medium is severely flawed, this has been pointed out several times on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 06:28 PM
2

i guess your perception must be badly screwed if you believe the sexual preferences of people change within 2 years because of an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 04:59 PM
1

This thread is hardly an indication or even proof. If it is, there's numerous examples of other threads which refute that claim (1, 2, 3). Your claim is pretty easy to refute though. If you had said "most women are not attracted to bi guys", it would have been quite difficult. Again, I'd be interested in some real data.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 02:50 PM
1

I've once read a blog entry from a woman involved in the BDSM scene. Her words were like: "The first thing you will learn when stepping into the scene as a submissive man is that the number of submissive men is far, far higher than the number of women who like to dominate." Would you say this is accurate, or inaccurate?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 12:14 PM
2

Is there any data (surveys or experiments) available giving proof to the "women have 0 tolerance for bisexual men" theory, actually?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 12:05 PM
2

*desperate men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 12:00 PM
1

The meaning of life is whatever people find as meaning for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 11:52 AM
1

"Lmao whoa there generalization much?"...that one?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 11:41 AM
2

That's a little contradictory to say women only have a dual mating strategy but there are alpha/beta mixtures. If there are mixed men, there's women choosing only those mixed men and following a single mating strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 11:40 AM
1

Does she work or do you provide for her with your money and resources?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 11:36 AM
1

What "value" do men keep?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/19 11:34 AM
1

Okay, I'll just tell my gf she's supposed to throw a temper tantrum now because the new poster on Reddit says so lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 03:43 PM
0

Which is why it's advisable for men wanting to live happy, successful lives to ditch TRP, although it's still preferrable to black pill incel fatalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 07:20 AM
4

If a woman is happy in a relationship and enjoys the time she has together with her man, there is no reason she will start nagging or doing mean shit tests. Someone who is giving her enjoyable times while at the same time not being a pushover is a benefit to her life, and a woman worth her salt will know that is something worthy of keeping. A man with a spine, in turn, will know that being single is preferrable to being in a horrible relationship with a nagging, toxic person, so the chance of hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/19 07:04 AM
1

I thought you were talking about the cost of child care (daycare, nannies and such) in relation to wages that can be earned while your kids are cared for. That's only high for the first years because kids can look after themselves, feed themselves and entertain themselves once they're at a certain age. Child support from the state is far less money than what an average salary looks like, and in my country, a family receives it regardless of whether the parents are working or not. This is not a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 03:37 PM
1

I already agreed with this point. Oh, sorry, I missed that. Not arguments. Only lived experiences. I have only met 2 women that are what I would call good partners. And I have met a lot of women. There are not a lot of women that dedicate themselves to be good partners. Can you really know that of most people you don't have deep connections with? I'm pretty sure there's a lot of women you don't know that well. Like the lady who cuts your hair or the clerk at some store you go to. When you see a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 11:10 PM
1

Who you're trying to convince with that conspiracy theorist figment lmao. One person could support a whole family for a very short time in human history, one part of the 20th century in America. Women have worked throughout human history, this isn't something new at all. A "mediocre wage" could NEVER in human history "easily support a family of 5 or more". Living standards and expectations for most of human history were also a lot lower than what they are now. A lot of people, women included, li…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 11:04 PM
1

You think that, but are there arguments that can back up that belief? As I outlined, even TRP theory itself can help the argument that being an older women is not easier than being an older man. Also, I recall women have higher rates of depression and anxiousness, which also seems to speak against "female easy mode", but there's different attempts to explain that, one being the theory that men are diagnosed with these illnesses less often and another theory being that it's all feminism's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 02:23 PM
1

Most modern day marriages don't have a stay at home wife with a husband that provides for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 09:20 PM
1

Man, you got whacked in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 04:45 PM
1

After they age they are treated just slightly better than men. I am sure that change must suck. Well, following TRP women are valued for their youth, fertility and physical attractiveness while men are valued for their physical attractiveness but also their money and status. You can gain the last two parts as a man (and following the "men age like fine wine" theory you can even work to get the first part as an aging man) while a woman can't regain her youth and fertility. Surely that works for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 04:32 PM
1

You agree that choice-based standards are less objectifying. Then it must logically follow that men who prize virginity are the true feminists, because they choose to objectify women less. Anything else is mental gymnastics. That depends on why the particular man prizes virginity in a woman. Does he desire it out of religious reasons? Because he feels a bond between two people will be stronger when both are not tainted by previous experiences? Because he fears he can't measure up to men who came…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 09:49 PM
1

I'd argue it's not acceptable to choose solely because of looks in most demographics. Girls will get shit from their friends if they openly say "I picked him as a boyfriend because he was so hot". Yes, I'd agree choice-based standards are less objectifying than genetically-based standards. However, hypocrisy is still objectionable. If a man wants a virgin bride but has slept around, he's a joke for having that stance. He can still do it, but will get shit from others for voicing it. The disparit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 05:00 PM
1

I refuse to believe that looks-based (often genetic) selection is seen as less objectifying than chastity-based selection to women Which is why the majority of women don't want to be selected purely for their looks, either. It's one of many other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 09:37 AM
1

Morality is largely not objective, but it can still be subjective and not have its basis in human survival or biological fitness. A growing number of people on the world are also vegeterians or vegans for the reasons you implied - it's not moral to harm living beings if it's not absolutely necessary. I argue most turn to this lifestyle because of their moral beliefs, not because this lifestyle is useful to them in terms of survival. Biological fitness plays absolutely no role in my day-today-lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/19 09:32 AM
1

I feel you're doing a thing here which can confuse others when you say virtues which survive over the ages are the "truth" precisely because they survive. For one you could definitely say virtues have to pass the test of time to be able to stand for themselves, but virtues don't solely exist to ensure survival of humanity or suvival of the fittest. Virtues such as selflessness, justice or ensuring the dignity and well-being of people around us can aid to the human race suriving as they increase …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 02:32 PM
1

Okay, I totally get that. Of course it also depends on the demographic of people you surround yourself with and the place you live in (i.e. you are more likely to experience bad stares when going clubbing a lot vs. staying indoors or just meeting friends on the weekends), but kidnappings, assaults or rapes still happen sadly. Just make sure your guy doesn't get too protective, cause "he stared at my girl creepily" doesn't sound like a valid excuse for beating a guy into a coma in a court of law,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 12:59 PM
1

I'm curious why you seem to feel such a strong need to be protected in the mostly safe first world regions most of us live in? Don't get me wrong, when I'm out with my gf and a guy comes up and makes a move on her, I'm gonna stand up for her. I'm gonna put myself infront of her and physically protect her if it ever becomes necessary. But she's also an adult person and I'm not there to be her protector from bad stares or conflicts everywhere. Let's say she has beef at her work and one of her co-w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 10:33 AM
1

You implied marriage nowadays isn't worth it because it will restrain men's strategy while not restraining women's (hypergamy). If a man marries a woman her equal, her strategy of hypergamy is also restrained and there is no primary benefit to women (I don't believe in the theory that both sexes have different sexual strategies and will suffer if they don't follow them, but I'm just following your argument here).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 08:24 AM
6

Being an asshole won't help you with women who have their shit together and have the set of values that will lead them to next a guy who's an asshole even though he's soo hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 12:08 PM
1

I agree. Not being an asshole will make you happier, provided you have any functioning sense of morality and right and wrong. The golden middle ground between being a good person and not being a pushover is the road to happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 11:06 AM
7

Being kind and having a positive aura will help you in life. TRP-advised books like 7 Habits of highly effective People encourage this a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 10:51 AM
2

Huh? I never said I could get as many matches as some random woman. What advantages does it offer me to make a comparison with her? I said it's very possible to meet women. The guy in the pic definitely could, he looks fine and could score with the right profile, text game and by not being an autist IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 10:34 AM
2

I don't really see anything wrong with hypergamy. Git gud as I always say. We are animals and we are supposed to be competitive in the sexual market Would you feel hurt or betrayed if your SO left you for a 21 year old college girl when you were both in your 40s and happily settled? Honest question.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 10:30 AM
1

You can do well with women despite having traits that work against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 10:20 AM
0

It depends on your age, looks (duh), profile and region but I'd say if you're average, young and near an urban region, that's not true at all. And of course there's the argument that it gets even easier when you age and keep fit, because a lot of men are either dead, have been to prison (if you're American), are fat or have aged badly at a later age.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 10:11 AM
0

I'm male too and a little proud of my low count lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 10:10 AM
2

All that this is going to do is put unattractive men at odds with attractive men and with women--a losing battle, that gets us nowhere evolutionarily. Is beauty not the meaning of life? Is this seriously your opinion on what is important and valuable in life? Should we, as humans, not strive to fight for equality, justice, righteousness, to improve the lifes of others, and other moral virtues, instead of clinging to the concept of evolution and the survial of the fittest?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 08:45 AM
-1

Does the man who "pumps and dumps" women actually communicate to those women that he's not interested in a relationship, or does he deceive them? If he's honest, it's the equivalent of the woman you described, unless the woman also deceives her "beta bux" husband. The problem with your model is most women are not interested in "giving her virginity and prime years to a man in exchange for lifelong commitment". Most women don't like to be seen as prize objects or want to be valued for their virgi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 08:24 AM
1

They'd be giving up their sexual strategy for women's benefit primarily and they don't want to as long as women continue to have theirs catered to first. Not if they were to marry a woman their equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 08:09 AM
1

Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 05:53 AM
0

You link a thread of one woman swiping right on 10% of all profiles. What makes you conclude, from that, that there are "super slim" chances for one random man to meet an attractive older woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 05:52 AM
0

No it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 05:48 AM
1

It's possible for a man to be a stay at home dad and be provided for by a wealthy woman, it's just harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 10:51 AM
1

Why didn't the husbands work less? Wasn't that also largely their own choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 10:45 AM
1

What was your job before and which one could you get that would give you 200k before taxes? IT field?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 10:23 AM
1

That's really great. I hope I didn't offend you with that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 08:03 AM
1

An income of 40,000 dollars is only 20,000 after taxes? There's 50% taxes for such a low income, how is that possible? In my country, you pay 0% taxes for the first 12,000 EUR and 42% from 31,000 to 60,000 (roughly 67,000 USD).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 12:32 PM
1

You're completely insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 10:22 AM
1

Men aren't any better. They have sex with women for their own pleasure, not to create better women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 07:25 PM
1

If you consent to it, it's not violating your bodily autonomy. I also disagree that penetrating someone always puts you in a more powerful postion than the other, such as when you are on the bottom, as I've mentioned in another comment. Again, I disagree that comparing food to human body parts is necessarily illogical. We disagree, but it shouldn't cause drama, it's just an issue of semantics. There's much more heavy issues that People can disagree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 12:46 PM
2

I disagree it's a logical fallacy when you say penetration equals domination. Is something being inserted to your body necessarily something or someone that dominates you, or is the other party being bigger than you a necessity for that? Am I being dominated if a fat woman who is bigger than me pegs me, even though I have more muscle power? Or are bigger AND stronger AND penetration all necessary eements of domination? You need to be more precise with your theories.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 11:54 AM
2

A lot of men want to be dominated as well. The inequality comes with the being dominant part, most women don't want to fulfill that role.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 10:57 AM
3

A man isn't gonna be charged with harrassment for making a tactful move on a woman. The same man can still be lustful and sexually aggressive once they're in the bedroom. (and can still respect a "no" in that situation)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 10:50 AM
0

Is your sex life with him as satisfying and intense as with the abusive partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 08:41 AM
6

Is a nurse who is shoving food into a patient's mouth who constantly yells at her "feed me!" dominating/taking charge of the patient?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 08:33 AM
1

Men have a higher sex drive and a lot of them won't be able to resist their urge to continue. So if ya really think about it...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 08:28 AM
0

It makes women more dominant in that analogy because the law treats male rapists much harsher.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 08:27 AM
4

It's a bit like saying food is dominating you because you take it into your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 08:21 AM
2

Cowgirl or reverse cowgirl can be petty hurtful to a man's penis though lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 08:20 AM
7

1 and 2: Regularly go out and talk to people, get some hobbies and interests to have something to talk about (including things that are located in the "real world" and not just nerd culture), get counselling or therapy if you have mental health issues, try out new things, research about grooming, dressing and haircuts and learn what works for you and what you feel comfortable in, try to do some sports or form of work-out regularly (if it makes you feel good), read some books or other material ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 06:34 AM
1

Being sleepless for 4 years sounds like an enormous trade-off. I've also seen a study showing that parents are not happier people than childless adults. And there's the noteworthy issue of the often horrible effect on a couple's sex life that children bring. So I was curious about your assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 04:50 PM
3

Poster saying something going against X's world view: "Watch what people do, not what people say." Poster saying something backing X's world view: "Straight from the horse's mouth, folks. My view is the truth."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 02:51 PM
2

83% of men vs. 87% of women in the US have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 01:27 PM
1

Was having kids worth it to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 01:20 PM
2

Another real life person proving TRP theories wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 10:38 AM
1

Hey man, I once read there were 3 things a woman wanted in a man, but I can't exactly remember them all. Do you reckon what those things were? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:24 PM
1

Lol a guy being an asshole to his gf's mother will not be turn on for the girl, it will be a huge turn off even. Being nice is not only not a turn off, it's absolutely necessary for a healthy relationship under the right circumstances. Being a pushover is a turn-off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 11:32 AM
1

Just like Chadfish experiments then, lol. Where's the proof I asked you for?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 11:14 AM
1

No one is denying this happens on occasion. Incels do when they tell distressed guys to "lay down and rot" and that "it's over unless you're 6 feet and white with an 8/10 face in [current year]." An harmonic match happening on occasion means that it's a thing very possible to achieve for an average man. Can't have that fact in the incel crabs in a bucket world. "On occasion" also means far more frequent than the 1 in thousand you mentioned later, to me. Right except women rate 80% of men as unat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 09:27 AM
3

Good point, I didn't notice you said personal experience doesn't matter in your original post. Looking at the "statistics" from incel forums is showing only one half of the truth though. Only posts that align with their worldview get posted and upvoted there, you won't see a story of an average guy meeting an average girl through a dating app and them clicking over their personalities, the incels will just say it's fake or it doesn't matter because the girl is an ugly roastie or something simila…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 11:20 PM
3

These questions are relevant for the discussion though. You're arguing the poster who chose her husband for his profile text and interests is a complete unicorn, proven by the fact you don't get results despite having a good bio. If some things are lacking severely or can at least be improved in your online dating game, it makes a very relevant point in the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 09:41 PM
2

How long have you been trying and how many messages do you send out? Did you tailor your messages and try out different kinds?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 04:02 PM
2

That's what dating apps that actually allow you to fill out your profile with text are for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 04:01 PM
2

Selection bias: the comment. Coming to cinemas this August.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 03:51 PM
5

Yeah, online dating can be a real blessing for men who are not super social and dislike the clubbing/partying scene but still have qualities that make them attractive to women. Asking someone out online is also easier than asking them out in real life, and since you're on a dating app, there's already a certain hint regarding the "is this a date" question. This is what I feel is missing in the "online daitng is horrible" mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/19 03:45 PM
1

So AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 08:30 AM
2

What.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 07:27 AM
1

Or just communicate with the guy and tell him they don't just want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 07:26 AM
1

Why do you think it's easier for a woman to find a really good relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 01:54 PM
1

A lot of women want a FWB because they like sex but find relationships to be a hassle or too complicated or prone to dramas. If they found a reliable guy who's good at sex and can separate it from his feelings, it's very likely she will want him for an FWB. A man doesn't need to be Chad for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 01:44 PM
1

Just wanted to point out those types make up a proportion of all men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 09:47 AM
1

From the young audience’s point of view, the other side characters don’t really matter. Young audiences do not really register, “Uncle Scar killed my father” as “Men are bad,” any more than they register, “Ursula was so evil” as “women are evil.” They will certainly register that female (or male) characters can be evil and do evil things, though. The Rescuers blatantly shows a woman abusing and utilizing a young girl for her own monetary gain. Children aren't stupid and realize this, at least I …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 11:35 AM
1

I meant if keeping a crush for someone you've known for years, possibly "forever" is really that common. Seems pretty unhealthy to me, if someone doesn't want you for more than friendship, it's your responsibility (for your own sake) to move on and direct your attention elsewhere, and the feelings will fade over time. Men will not be that open about this problem because it will make them look bad if they say "my friend just wants me as a friend when I want a friendship with sex." It can make the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 11:22 AM
1

He wants all the strappings of a friendship and then some, but has to consciously supress the desire for more, possibly forever Is that really common? The crushes I had on women that didn't grow into anything more never lasted forever. One girl in uni I saw about 6 months after and I felt NOTHING for her. But yeah, if that is the case, it's a very valid reason for a man to end the friendship, while still communicating honestly. Such as by saying "You know you're dear to me, but it hurts me when …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 01:28 PM
2

Ooh. I missed your sarcasm. Sorry. Don't blame me, there's enough users here who unironically believe TRP tactics are the most honest, lovable things a man can do to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 12:55 PM
2

the man is naive. He believes women are the way they are portrayed in Bollywood, Hollywood, Disney & Hallmark movies. He cannot even fathom any kind of dishonesty, duplicity, or manipulative/exploitative behavior FROM women ONTO men. After all, women are always the victims, right? They’re angels or pure light and goodness whose farts smell like roses. What kind of limited exposure to Hollywood films did you have? One of the first movies I've seen as a kid was Disney's The Rescuers which has an e…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 11:45 AM
1

Things like flirting with other women to reignite your partner's attraction for you is anything else but direct, wtf lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 10:49 AM
1

You were never her friend in the first place if you end the friendship because she won't fuck you. Could this not be true in many cases? A man who befriends a woman and cuts off contact with her after he asked her out and was rejected could be seen as a pretender. It would be logical the woman would be hurt in such a situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 10:15 AM
2

"Listening too much to women" is missing another big part: listening to popular culture such as movies or TV shows where a boy and a girl have a series of exciting adventures together, going through it as friends until romance develops by itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 09:25 AM
4

Sure Chad Thundercock McMuscles is not going to get friend zoned This brings up some problems, one being that some girl isn't into McMuscles because she likes McSkinnyAndPretty the other beign that she could already be in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 08:53 PM
1

Why do you wanna pay for women's drinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 05:51 PM
2

If hypergamy just means "getting the best partner (most attractive, most wealthy, most intelligent) I can get" then I would not call that immoral. It's just basic human nature. I would add that it's in everyone's nature to end a relationship with someone not fulfilling their need. Let's take an average man and partner him up with a girlfriend who one day decides "I only want sex once a year". Do you think he's gonna stick around, or leave? The question is how important the need that isn't fulfil…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 05:43 PM
1

I'm sure the old people will also tell the anime pillow neckbeard he's a gentleman if he helps them in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/19 03:53 PM
1

I agree being able to discuss every imaginable thing is a bliss. It all depends on the people you talk to though. There's women here who are fine to discuss even straight up misogyny, and they must also exist in real life. What truths has your experience revealed to you that align with the red pill? And would you assume men's behaviour can be seen as comparably immoral and "red pilley" or would you consider their nature, on aggregate, as more moral and less filled with "unfortunate truths"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 10:04 AM
2

I agree with you. I think a lot of that rhetoric is coming from men who have trouble with women, or find dating to be hard or stressful (for many possible reasons) and have developed a coping mechanism by thinking "it's not just me, every man goes through this, most men struggle, this is a big, important problem". Out of curiousity, what brought you to this sub? Have you been reading about the red pill or incels before?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 08:07 PM
2

It's a quite common red pill opinion that only really attractive men (so 20% of all men) can get women to agree to have casual sex, including one night stands, with them. The majority of men will struggle hard in this aspect and will be lucky to have it once or twice in their entire lives. This is probably what the poster you responded to mean when he said "most men don't have the ability to just have sex". These posters form at least half of this sub, which is why I thought you are new here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 02:23 PM
1

Are you new to this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 11:38 PM
1

You're a believer in the intelligence distribution disparity? A lot of feminists would like to see you burn for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 11:36 PM
1

How would you imagine the sexual chemistry with such a man to play out? Genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 11:35 PM
1

There's a lot of people. If 5% of women break up with guys they've just had sex with, that's still tons and tons of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 11:33 PM
1

These guys struggle because women largely don't approach and men are still expected to ask women out and lead things into the sexual/dating direction. As you have pointed out, they aren't unattractive, just low on confidence. A normal-looking woman who also isn't confident will get approached and thus have easier opportunities to date than her male equivalent. That's the difference. If these men got over their fears and learned to approach and socialize, they would have many opportunities to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 06:37 PM
1

All on average of course. Some women are ready to have sex with almost anyone. Some men want commitment and marriage from anyone who says yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 06:16 PM
1

Such an agreement would be fine. Your stance in your previous comments was that you would be totally uncomfortable with your partner fucking other people ("absolutely not why would I want that") while you would be happy to do so. Very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 04:05 PM
1

Enjoying the fruits of non-monogamy while not being willing to grant it to the partner who you love, the partner who grants it to you, would be the actions of a hypocrite to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:00 AM
1

Haha, bullshit study. No reason to take anything it said seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 12:00 AM
1

So if a woman "settles" she's still settling for an artificially inflated image of a man. They still met him in real life and saw the real life version of him without Photoshop. The person they commit to isn't artificially inflated then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 11:58 PM
1

To not be a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 11:53 PM
1

Or people bounce from OLD because they successfully found a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 11:49 PM
1

If a man can get "one or two instances of casual sex" why could he not get 20 of them? It's a numbers game. Apply the same strategy that got you there again and again.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 11:41 PM
1

Only assuming many men don't bring some form of natural attractiveness with them. I think many do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 11:39 PM
1

Would you allow her to fuck other dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 11:33 PM
1

How did the guys she did bang respond to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 11:13 PM
1

Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 10:27 PM
2

This might be true for men and women outside of monogamous relationships, but there's been a lot of studies showing that women significantly lose their libido and interest in sex within such relationships, while men's interest in sex remains constant. (link 1, 2, 3) Quite ironic and sad actually, when you consider that on average, women are the group who is more interested in forming monogamous relationships with men they're fond of, and push for relationships faster on average. If you were very…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 02:42 PM
1

If there is only a small difference, how is it infinitely easier for women to score matches and dates on apps like Tinder than it is for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 08:53 PM
2

It's everyone's responsibility to learn to deal with shitty people. Doesn't mean we should stop judging and calling shitty people's behaviour what it is: shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 11:20 PM
8

Well, it's dishonest because a "date" normally means both people get an honest chance at getting close to the other person, that both are open to a relationship, and if one isn't interested in that, they shouldn't agree to go on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 05:16 PM
17

This is either an age thing, an American thing or a "shitty people" thing. Among my age group, (20-ish) in Europe, it seems very normal to go Dutch on dates. Men might decide to pay for drinks or a dinner (if they have a job, which isn't taken for granted) but there is no general expectancy for men to pay, or I haven't witnessed it. On the other hand, I've seen some women say they expect men to pay because "old school is best" (funny that they seem to think the old school is best only when it be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 05:12 PM
1

Leaving a relationship is not always as easy as you describe. Sometimes, people become dependent on each other, toxic people can even manipulate their partners into becoming dependent even though their relationship hurts them. Sometimes, marriage, living together, financial issues or kids can make ending things really difficult. Sometimes, you can go back and forth between being unhappy in a relationship and not wanting to hurt your partner. It's not entitlement. Entitlement would be saying "I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 05:22 PM
1

A virgin male wouldn't say this obviously, because he's never experienced a shitty relationship. It's like saying chronic pain can't be that bad, there's painkillers and everything, until you experience it. Anyone who was in a bad relationship would agree with this, no matter how high their value. I'm sorry but it's ridiculous to think so. Talk about putting pussy on a pedestal. Very Anti-RP. It's not comparable to food. More like living without a pet vs. living with a dog who provides company b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 11:56 AM
1

A woman who can find someone to have sex with isn't guaranteed to find a man who's worth the time. Being single is better than being in a shitty, destructive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 09:32 PM
1

What about men who just want to have sex and aren't interested in relationships with certain women? Who view certain women as "good enough for sex, not good enough to introduce to my mom." Do these not exist? I'm curious on your view.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 06:22 PM
1

I get what you mean, I might as well have said every kid deserves two loving parents. One more thing I'm curious about your friend and the likes of her, another user wrote: While her male equivalent gets one bot match per month and rejected from sperm clinics. so I wonder about the cliché that many undesirable women only text and meet with men way out of their league, fitter, better looking, overall more attractive and then unsurprisingly find out they were only up for casual sex, treating her l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 12:51 PM
1

Sure, that will definitely make thing easier and having a loving mother helps. I'm still pretty critical about single women going to sperm banks to birth a child that will grow up without a dad because mommy wanted to fulfill her urge to have kids and couldn't find a man who stuck with her. A kid deserves two parents IMO. And dads who leave a family and don't care about their kids are equally shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 11:55 AM
1

There's sperm banks without those requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 11:21 AM
1

Poor kid growing up without a dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 11:20 AM
1

That's like saying if a man can attract women to pay their dinner, he can attract them to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 11:15 AM
1

The nature of male sexuality is expansive and inclusive. While, sadly, women's isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 10:50 AM
1

Did most of those 50 decent conversations not turn into dates because you weren't interested or they weren't?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 10:47 AM
1

Apparently a lot of men find chubby girls hot though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 10:40 AM
1

It's not meant to function what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 10:36 AM
1

You're making the claim that LTRs are only one possible end result of courtship or dating. Even though most women wish for a relationship instead of casual sex (I would dare to say). So even though a woman has it easier to find sex with a man, she can still feel disappointed and heartbroken when she finds out he only wanted sex, or a casual relationship, possibly because he lied to her and said he could imagine being in a relationship with her. However, being able to experience this intimate con…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 08:52 AM
1

I mentioned Chad because the usual response from terpers/black pillers when someone says that women pair up with men, or have sex with men, so men must logically get some action, is "they're all Chads, you have apex fallacy". Do you have any sources to back up your claim that 90% of relationship setups are not LTRs? Do you have a source that it's easier for women to "participate" in LTRs (which to me, means: have an LTR)? Do you have a source that it's easier for a fat woman than for an average …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 03:32 PM
1

I'm specifically talking about LTRs. For every woman that partners up in a relationship, a man also must partner up. It's a 1:1 ratio, unless several women are in a harem of one man, which most women would not want. Or several women have relationships with one man, one after the other, but that would still leave all but one woman, at a time, single, unless she partners up with another man. So how is mathematically possible that a greater proportion of women participate in the relationship market…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 02:41 PM
1

Men have higher sex drives, so more men will be distressed with the situation of not getting laid. There are more voluntarily celibate women than voluntarily celibate men. A 25 year old woman can date a 35 year old man while his equivalent - a 35 year old woman might be a single mother who's absolutely fine with not having sex with anyone. You implied fat women have an easier time finding relationships than "a lot of average weight dudes". I doubt this. First of all it's very vague. How many are…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 09:40 AM
1

I don't see this in the real world. Most couples are looksmatches, you're probably going to tell me you regularly see fat chcks with fit boyfriends, and not the other way around, like I've seen a couple "men have the hardest fate" posters insist?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 09:20 AM
1

never mind the fact that fat girls can get way more attention than a lot of average weight dudes. For casual sex. Also, I see feminists and fat activists talking about fat shaming and unrealistic beauty standards mostly related to runway models and the advertisement industry. These are probably mostly run by men, but it's not related to men rejecting fat women romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 08:52 AM
1

Yup, I can pretty much agree with that. You're one of the very reasonable posters here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 08:49 AM
1

No, that's a contested view even here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 08:14 AM
1

A small minority of women go into porn and most hookers are hookers out of purely economic reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 08:12 AM
1

Spot on, pretty much derailed this dude's "only the most attractive men in the world are picked for casual sex" theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 07:22 AM
1

Is an obese women (just as much, if not more women than men are obese) wanting a fit guy reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 07:01 AM
1

wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 12:03 PM
1

If sex is the ONLY reason you get in a LTR, then you are not made for LTR, just stay in STR/ ONS forever. The argument of some posters (even some on the blue side) would be that many men are not attractive enough to get STRs and ONS at all, so long-term relationships are their only access to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 08:55 AM
1

I don't understand that comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 08:53 AM
1

Libido wanes, not attraction. A woman can still find her boyfriend very attractive but just doesn't want sex as often as previously.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 08:53 AM
1

So not because of men? Because OP said men go all out their way to please women. damn you really went far back. You have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 08:48 PM
1

Which is?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 08:41 PM
1

The only two branches of the manosphere that are actively growing right now are tradcon and blackpill. So the red pill subreddit is growing...shrinking? And if it's growing, does it advocate finding a bride rather than having casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 08:24 PM
1

He mentioned several high-level pickup guys swinging all the way to hardcore religion. Don Draper?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 08:20 PM
1

Talk politics? He has that serial killer stare lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 08:19 PM
1

A lot of women don't participate in casual sex, or have 1 or 2 hook-ups and find out they don't like them. Surveys on partner counts don't support your assumptions, unless you assume that women just lie, which I doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 08:10 PM
1

Thank you for participating in "say a wrong thing" day!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 08:06 PM
1

It's very much speculation that all or even most women act this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 07:54 PM
1

What do you make of the meat diet he proposes?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 07:49 PM
1

On the national average, they are clearly not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 12:19 PM
1

In what ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 11:04 PM
1

Yeah, it could play out differently in reality than in theory. Another aspect is that women experience men feigning interest in a relationship just to get sex, I would imagine men experience this a lot less. This could make "let's wait with sex" seem more appealing and "mature" for women than for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 12:48 PM
2

Good thing it ain't universally true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 10:57 AM
1

What about happy, sexually fulfilled committed relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 10:54 AM
1

IME they really don't. No woman is comfortable with the notion that her bf/husband lusted greatly for women before her but is less passionate now. This includes sexual activities. I agree with this. On the other hand though, there was a thread here that asked women how they'd feel if a guy they dated wanted to wait for sex and if that same guy had sex much faster with other women before them. They unanimously agreed it showed the guy was mature and responsible and some even found it sweet. Men o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 10:48 AM
1

Did you find out your wife was unwilling to live out a diverse sex life within your marriage, or set a quantity of sexual encounters that is unsatisfying to you, or how was your personal experience in your marriage in relation to this mindset of women you describe?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 09:19 AM
1

Yeah, if only women gave real advice, then men would follow with being tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 03:16 PM
1

Thanks for the answer! I'm saving it just for the workout content, because as you indicate, building up muscle has never hurt a man (working out extensively can cause injuries, but then again, going through life with an unfit body can also cause injuries and serious health problems in the long run). Since you mentioned the term "becoming a self advocate", I wonder what your relationship to the concept of having a moral compass is. A lof of the red pill seems to be a "dog eat dog" philosophy and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 07:47 PM
1

That's a pudgy middle-aged men who looks like he takes little effort for his appereance. I don't see many men drooling over a pudgy middle-aged woman who takes little effort for her apperance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 04:32 PM
2

That doesn't compute. If most people are unmarried at 25, most of them can still be married at 70.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 03:30 PM
1

So you're gonna chicken out instead of answering my question, or is your link the answer to my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 03:29 PM
1

Is that so? So being tall is now not conventionally attractive for a man? Driver's face is conventionally attractive? What is an example of an unconventionally attractive man to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 12:58 PM
1

In what ways did you harden up and own your masculinity, compared to how you behaved before? Can you give some examples how your behaviour or demeanour changed on a daily life basis?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 11:53 AM
1

Women are more likely to agree on who is ugly. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 11:46 AM
1

Yes. Personality, behaviour and status affect a man's attractiveness more than they affect a woman's attractiveness. The downside for men is that they might feel compelled to change their behaviour, which can be hard, and that not every man can have status. The upside for men is that bad looks can be counterbalanced with these attributes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 10:12 AM
1

Because of this, I tend to select who I can most likely guess I would be attracted to in person just based on their photo. This tends to be more classically handsome men. Did it ever come to your mind that this behaviour could also be a waste of time, since those classically handsome men might have other, more attractive women going after them? That you could end up (to use this subreddit's terminology) shooting above your league and choosing those men who might make you unhappy in the end, sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 10:07 AM
1

Most men prefer slim, young women though. On Ladyboners you also get a lot of men who fit some criteria for conventional attractiveness, but miss others. Such as Adam Driver (tall but with an unconventional face), Zac Efron (short-ish but good-looking and ripped) or Mark Ruffalo (not tall and not with a very attractive face but - I would guess - charismatic and adorable).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 09:51 AM
2

Started off somewhat reasonably, only to escalate into nonsene with Men need to accept that most men in life will not find a mate. Wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 09:50 AM
1

You'll just have a difficult time convincing the majority of the population in a Western society that children should go hungry or be forced to joing street gangs or prostitute themselves in the streets to survive. While adult people can be garbage and/or deadbeats, even hardcore Republicans would agree that chlildren are entitled to enough support and assistance to thrive, attend school and get a fair chance at life. Justice and fairness are too much core Western values that people would think …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 12:10 PM
1

What shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 12:00 PM
1

Like the other poster said, TRP isn't, but many terpers are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 10:45 PM
1

Unless we become a space colonizing species, yeah, we only have one earth. I think global policies to limit population growth should be the answer. Rising wealth also decreases birth levels as shown in the book Factfulness by Hans Rosling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 09:24 PM
1

Just wanted to have people who read this thread see there was disagreement with your stances.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 07:12 PM
1

There are many homeless and hungry people in the world. Most of them are men. Did you think about 'the right thing' when walking past them on the way to work? Why did you ask him this question when he basically agreed with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 02:14 PM
1

Let's just say significant portions of the world's most successful societies disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 02:11 PM
1

I have no idea how red pillers could maintain the idea that the US is a "gynocentric society" in the light of all these proposed bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 08:43 PM
1

First of all, I'm totally against outlawing abortion and it's a pretty terrible development that some American (Republican) lawmakers are pursuing. However, that doesn't change the fact that being forced to pay child support can be a real risk for men having sex in some jurisdictions. For example, in Canada, a judge can oblige you to pay child support based on your "maximum possible income", so if you have a certain degree, or have made a certain amont of money at one point, you are obliged to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 06:27 PM
1

This choice benefits only him and gives rise to risks only to the woman. The financial penalties of child support and possibly prison if you can't pay the child support (in some jurisdictions) are not risks?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 02:12 PM
1

That being said, it's amazing how many women got truly angry at Milano for framing sex the way women have always framed sex: as something they dole out as a reward if a certain threshold of presents and good deeds are met. Huh, but RP says that women do in fact really, really, really like sex with attractive men. Sex without the attached byproducts of presents or a relationship, sex itself. So much that they will fuck a male model even if he's dressed like a hobo. So it'd be kinda unconvincing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 02:09 PM
1

Well, the argument that it's for the moral good is kinda hard to swallow when the same conservative law makers don't give the tiniest shit about the well-being of kids once they're born.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 02:04 PM
2

Sorry for digging up an old post, but I just wanted to say I totally agree with you. Congrats on your long-lasting relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 11:46 AM
1

Here's a compromise solution: continue having sex with all men whom you are attracted to on the first date. As long as men stop shaming or rejecting women for having a high n-count.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 04:52 PM
1

Gotcha, thanks. One more question, when you say women are more likely to be emotional and cheat, how do you explain the stats showing men and women cheat on an equal level? Do you think that's women lying collectively on surveys while men tell the truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 02:41 PM
1

Would she just disagree or do you reckon she would be disappointed in you having these beliefs? And for what reasons would she disagree (female solipsism, etc)? I didn't say invalidate. I would say most people have meaningful thoughts about their mothers and for most men, their mothers are the first female figures they have a connection with in their lives. I would find it difficult to reconcile these feelings if I had the same opinion about women. I would find it impossible to have respect for …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 12:42 PM
1

So you stance is basically that male love is more pure because they love people for who they are, men are more likely to go against their nature and stay faithful and that male love, unlike female love, is sacrificial. My question would be: what, do you think, would your mother say if you told her this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 10:48 AM
1

I will try (it was pretty late when I wrote this yesterday). Some posters will point to the (in my opinion toxic) behaviour described in OP, where women don't comminucate well with men and use "no" during sexual escalation as a shit test to weed out the men who have been taught that "no means no". Those men don't get further with women and only the men who really know what women are like are successful. They will argue "this is what women are like! Don't you see why men turn to the red pill and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 08:22 AM
1

Again look up the possibility that correlation doesn't mean causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 08:10 AM
1

Sex doesn't soil women. Bad relationships can damage people and make them have trust issues and start acting like the people who damaged them. I don't want to be the man that convinces a woman that "not all men are pigs". Plus people who have toxic attitudes or issues to begin with are also more likely to have weird relationships or lots of partners (correlation vs causation). Mutually enjoyable sex with a trustable partner doesn't soil people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 11:55 PM
1

Is that so? There no possible moral aspect of having sex or refusing to have sex with certain people? If a white woman says "I refuse to have sex with non-whites, they are just beneath my sexual standard because of their race. Nothing against them though", it's absolutely fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 09:53 PM
1

I'm saying this is why we need enthusiastic affirmative consent, and women saying "nah we don't, just don't be a pussy or a sperglord" can fuck off. Do you agree with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 07:43 PM
1

How tall are you? Lmao there is something seriously wrong if that's the first question you gotta ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/19 07:25 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter