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Are you incapable of comparing two situations with one thing in common?
/r/seduction27/07/26 12:12 AM
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They might not care so much about abs but a good amount of women do like big biceps and forearms.
/r/seduction26/07/26 06:28 PM
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Bartenders barely even talk to me anyway, so frankly, it’s out of the norm for them to even be friendly to me for cash. I’m still aware enough to know that conversation alone isn’t interest from them.
/r/seduction26/07/26 06:20 PM
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Dude, I’m not saying coworkers and bartenders are the same. I’m saying that one thing that is the same about both situations is that they’re forced to be there. Think a little. If two things were the exact same it wouldn’t be a comparison, it would just be listing two exact same things. Like, a fighter jet and a Boeing 747 aren’t the exact same, but they can still be compared because they’re both planes. I asked for advice on how to improve my plans. If you think being a regular is a bad idea, I…
/r/seduction26/07/26 05:50 PM
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I never said they were. But the point is that coworkers are also forced to be around each other and that doesn’t prevent them from dating. Financial motivation to be friendly is more of an issue, but not impossible. I’ve literally seen other men seduce bartenders and then still be together outside the bar weeks later. What I want to know is how they do it.
/r/seduction26/07/26 05:39 PM
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Plenty of coworkers date when they’re forced to be around each other so that’s a moot point, and I know fake friendliness from bartenders doesn’t mean anything. I’m not placing high hopes on this, but I’d at least like to know how to improve my chances. It’s not like this is the only attractive bartender in the world, if I meet more then I can improve my technique and play the numbers game.
/r/seduction26/07/26 05:21 PM
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Have you ever spoken to someone who was neutral about another person and then developed a crush over time? It definitely happens. I’m not expecting a high chance of this, but I think it’s a better idea than just having a 10 minute chat once while she’s at work and then asking her out when she barely knows me.
/r/seduction26/07/26 05:06 PM
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How well did she know you? Were you a regular at that bar? If you’d built up a rapport with her, it’s not too surprising.
/r/seduction26/07/26 03:05 PM
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Sort of a catch 22. If I knew more attractive girls who would agree to go to bars with me, I wouldn't bother with this bartender. The rest of the advice is solid though. I'll spend a few weeks on that.
/r/seduction26/07/26 02:46 PM
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Not true, I’ve been with way hotter women in person than any match I’ve gotten online.
/r/seduction24/07/26 11:57 AM
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Practicing approaches only on weekends takes longer. The longer gap between approaches makes you forget and lose momentum. I get how difficult it is as a working adult though. Way harder than when I was in college and I would meet attractive girls my age without even trying.
/r/seduction14/07/26 03:20 AM
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Depends entirely on if you’re consistent. I think if guys did this multiple times a week, daygame and nightgame sessions, approaching women on their own and groups then you could become comfortable in a few months. Otherwise, it takes maybe a couple years.
/r/seduction14/07/26 01:33 AM
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If a woman approaches me, most of the time it’s at bars, maybe once every five or six times I go, so if I do sets every weekend it’s like once or twice a month. I’d rate myself 6/10, maybe 7 when I was at my best fitness level and style my hair and clothes. Outside of that, only twice during daytime, and that was with women I’d already met before, like one from high school and another I’d chatted with briefly from the same apartment complex who asked to me have drinks with her.
/r/seduction03/07/26 12:50 AM
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First of all, you figure out something to talk about. Not boring crap like “how are you doing”. Make an assumption about her, if she works in education or healthcare or law. Or whether she has a good fashion sense.
/r/seduction27/06/26 08:04 PM
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Practice having an actual conversation that interests her before you just ask for her number.
/r/seduction27/06/26 02:48 PM
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The reason why sexual assault is so common is because the “innate” behavior is for humans and other animals to engage in courting and mating without any notions of consent or respect. Younger men, now that we’re being constantly told not to bother women, don’t approach until we realize that it’s ridiculous to equate talking to women with sexual harassment or some vague notion of “creepiness”. It’s not some huge burden for a woman to take a few seconds to say she’s not interested, and frankly, pl…
/r/seduction23/06/26 12:40 PM
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Nah, if humans did what was “innate” women would have even more sexual harassment to deal with. That’s why so many men avoid women now.
/r/seduction22/06/26 11:55 AM
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Humans didn't have to do an online course either. For most of history, humans just married the other people their age in their village or neighboring villages.
/r/seduction22/06/26 04:08 AM
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That loser doesn’t have anything applicable to other men. Even if he somehow does get approached regularly, I can assure you it’s either by flaunting good looks or wealth.
/r/seduction16/06/26 06:54 PM
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Right right right, you have some amazing secret technique that you just feel like keeping hidden. Got a billion dollars in a secret bank account too you’d like to brag about? If you don’t want to put in any work to go up to women, then just admit that. It’s possible to be constantly approached by attractive women if you have good looks that you’ve been born with, but otherwise don’t act as if you have some secret technique.
/r/seduction16/06/26 06:50 PM
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Must be leaving all the time too once they see your shitty personality and cowardly mindset.
/r/seduction16/06/26 06:42 PM
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Lmao, and you think in small towns you’ll have attractive women approaching you? What kind of nonsense is that?
/r/seduction16/06/26 06:38 PM
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That’s the coward’s way. You just don’t want to approach women.
/r/seduction16/06/26 06:31 PM
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Dude, I hardly ever get matches on apps. That’s why I mostly do in person, which is the only way I’ve gotten dates, relationships, or hookups.
/r/seduction16/06/26 12:56 AM
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While I agree that volume can help a lot, one issue is that I and probably a lot do other men genuinely sometimes can’t even find that many attractive women . I live in a mid size city, which is better than where I was living before, but outside of weekends it’s rough to get close to what you’re saying. And yeah, I get the point that when you’re starting out, you should try to talk to as many as possible, but after a point spamming random women just wastes everybody’s time.
/r/seduction16/06/26 12:38 AM
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Can totally depend on the woman. A woman who’s been treated well by men can still be less friendly just because of her personality. Also, the 9s and 10s tend to be surrounded by men who aren’t sleeping with her or anything but want to be nearby for the chance.
/r/seduction15/06/26 07:59 PM
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Equality doesn’t mean sameness, it means of equal value. Men are different too, men being equal doesn’t mean each man is identical to another.
/r/seduction15/06/26 12:24 PM
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There are attempts by people to strategize friendships. Actual books like How to Win Friends and Influence People. Haven’t read it myself but had it recommended to me.
/r/seduction13/06/26 02:57 AM
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And that a woman you’re interested in at night is probably surrounded by less attractive women who will rush to pull her away if you don’t entertain them as well. Oh, and you might not even be able to hear each other anyway. Good luck having a conversation with multiple women at once. It’s why so many night game people say to learn to dance instead.
/r/seduction12/06/26 12:43 AM
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Conversation, flirting, and small talk isn’t simple at night game when music is blasting and a woman’s friends are all with her. Or they suddenly feel the need to pull her away because they don’t like how you’re focusing on her. All you’ve said is vague and passable for day game, not night game.
/r/seduction12/06/26 12:19 AM
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I just got a date from day game yesterday, so yeah, it still works. It might have changed since you’ve last done it but it’s not impossible.
/r/seduction08/06/26 10:03 PM
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Your comment is actually the good one and the OP is garbage. Men should still desire women like any healthy straight man. What they should develop is the ability to accept rejection calmly, learn from their experiences, and move on. Edit: It's hilarious. The OP preaches indifference yet he's so worked up over my comments that he blocked me. Not to mention he's constantly misusing the > symbol.
/r/seduction08/06/26 10:01 PM
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If you don’t want to be with women, then there’s no need to force an indifferent mindset anyway
/r/seduction08/06/26 09:32 PM
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This is a ridiculous mindset. If you were indifferent to whether or not you attracted women, there’d be no point in trying to seduce them or trying to get better at dating. The reason men do this is because they’re attracted to women and want to date or sleep with them. Most people aren’t asexual or aromantic and telling them to act like they are is dumb. What men should be okay with is rejection and moving on to another woman, not an endless lack of sex or romance.
/r/seduction08/06/26 07:08 PM
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It is random, not so random that you can’t do things to improve, but random enough that you can do the exact same thing and get excited responses by women who give you their number without asking or ignored.
/r/seduction05/06/26 02:19 PM
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Yeah, 57 dates out of 2000 approaches isn’t bad. The issue seems to be what he does during/after that first date.
/r/seduction27/05/26 10:35 AM
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I’m 6’2.
/r/seduction21/05/26 02:18 PM
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When I went from a BMI of like 33 to 25 I saw more women approaching me.
/r/seduction21/05/26 12:48 PM
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In both 1989 and 2010, men and women had no difference in date acceptance. In 2015 and this one, there was a difference. Which, I’d say, just indicates how desperate men are getting. And also I think uni students are more open to either than most other adults.
/r/seduction20/05/26 07:48 PM
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Literally the first paragraph after the abstract: > While both genders were equally willing to go on a date, men were more willing to go to the confederate’s apartments or to have casual sex.
/r/seduction20/05/26 07:41 PM
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This isn’t even woman psychology. Any non-desperate man would not immediately agree to a date with a woman they don’t know.
/r/seduction20/05/26 07:32 PM
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Approaching groups is like the only option, pretty much no woman at a bar is on her own. And yes, it can work.
/r/seduction19/05/26 08:31 PM
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You’re the one who chose 18-21 to focus on in your title and post. You don’t like getting called out as disgusting and immature, then don’t say dumb shit. Seriously, making up what you think my job is to make yourself feel superior is pathetic.
/r/seduction19/05/26 12:29 PM
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Yeah, and it’s just a coincidence that the young woman is a hot one instead of an average looking woman who’s “really mature for her age”.
/r/seduction19/05/26 12:15 PM
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How about you think about why you *need* a woman who’s way more mature than others her age and go for the age group of already mature women anyways? And realize that there are plenty of women in the right age groups that aren’t fat.
/r/seduction19/05/26 12:13 PM
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Right, so different from your other comment about how some women can be more mature than others their age
/r/seduction19/05/26 12:03 PM
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Plenty of girls are still experiencing puberty at 19, so you can’t even do biology right. And what is this nonsense about Western morality there are non-western countries that have ages of consent even higher than 18 and non-western countries that go as low as 14
/r/seduction19/05/26 11:39 AM
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Are you serious? Do you see 18-21 in the post title or not?
/r/seduction19/05/26 11:32 AM
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Yep. If a 1 year difference in your partner is all that separates you from being a criminal then it’s gross. But then again, if this is how you behave, I can see why women with brains won’t want you. Have fun being thrown in the trash when any teen you trick into dating you develops a brain and realizes how shitty you are.
/r/seduction19/05/26 11:31 AM
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Then you should realize there are 18 years olds who are less mature than even 16 year olds, not go to the limits of the law.
/r/seduction19/05/26 11:25 AM
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What a dumb response. If you don’t like fat women, there are still plenty of non fat women in their 30s. And their mid to late 20s, this fixation of teens is gross.
/r/seduction19/05/26 11:24 AM
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You’re a loser whose excuse for wanting girls as young as legally possible is that women in their 30s are fat, stop trying to justify your grossness.
/r/seduction19/05/26 11:16 AM
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Well yeah, in that kind of setting, a couple high quality sets are better than 10 flaky randoms.
/r/seduction17/05/26 05:46 PM
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I feel like the best thing to do in a scenario like this is just to hang out naturally. Talk to guys too who are with girls and ask for an Insta or number if you happen to feel mutual interest from a girl.
/r/seduction17/05/26 04:32 PM
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Dating a woman from cold approach I realized is only a last resort. It takes weeks or more to figure out their real personality and why would you want to waste that kind of effort on a stranger? If you have friends and they have single female friends, that’s a much better opportunity at least they can somewhat vouch for their personality
/r/seduction15/05/26 06:57 PM
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If they catch feelings, then it’s not your responsibility. Just like how plenty of women don’t feel any responsibility when a guy they start talking to has feelings for them.
/r/seduction13/05/26 10:58 PM
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Try talking to less pretty girls and work your way up to girls you find attractive.
/r/seduction13/05/26 10:23 PM
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Try starting out with talking to guys. Approach women once you’re warmed up socially.
/r/seduction09/05/26 06:30 PM
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In a way, I agree. Decent single women probably won’t be open to a cold approach unless the guy builds up a lot of skill at cold approaching. For the average guy, it’s a last resort.
/r/seduction08/05/26 05:59 PM
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Honestly, I feel similar. I was doing decently well last summer, I was getting numbers, IGs and even replies and dates. Even had my first hookup then. Now though, I admittedly slowed down over the winter, but my last date was in January. Something’s off with most of the women I’m actually attracted to. I seem to do ok with women I’m not that interested in, but I can’t identify if there’s an issue. I don’t think I was doing anything different last year, so I don’t know what if anything changed. A…
/r/seduction07/05/26 06:20 PM
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Just accept that most people are boring and try to continue conversations anyway. Put in the effort yourself to make it more interesting.
/r/seduction04/05/26 09:04 PM
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No, you’re supposed to hang out with friends and meet their girlfriends’ friends at events. If you have chemistry with any of them, then go ahead and try setting up dates. Forcing it probably won’t work.
/r/seduction04/05/26 09:00 PM
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Those girlfriends tend to have female friends. Also, if OP is nervous just being around them, then he needs to be around them more.
/r/seduction04/05/26 06:11 PM
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Two minutes is still too short. A good 10 minute conversation or longer is the most likely to lead to further interaction.
/r/seduction04/05/26 02:01 PM
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It depends on what level of anxiety a guy has. When someone’s starting out, that might be their limit.
/r/seduction04/05/26 01:46 PM
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Do you have any attractive female friends? Any guy friends with attractive girlfriends? Any place where you can just spend time with attractive women? Not even try to hit on them but just be around them.
/r/seduction04/05/26 02:33 AM
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Talk to random men and women you’re not into. Old women, unattractive women, whatever, and then practice at having good conversations with them. If you can make them feel good talking to you, you can make attractive women feel good too.
/r/seduction04/05/26 01:58 AM
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I specifically work in lasers and a common question I’m asked is what kind of lasers. I say planet destroying lasers like in Star Wars to joke with them, you can probably think of something applicable to your job. Or if I meet a nurse, which there are a lot of in my city, I sometimes say, “You know, you’re perpetuating a stereotype.” If they ask what I mean, I say the stereotype of the beautiful nurse. Or workplace drama, I have stuff that’s happened with my engineering team, and you probably ha…
/r/seduction04/05/26 01:55 AM
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When I go out in real life, I also see quite a few ugly or average dudes with hot women. Frankly, since most women don’t put in effort to pursue someone with the ideal personality and appearance, they tend to compromise on appearance and accept charismatic and/or funny guys. You don’t even need a good personality, you just need one that’s sociable and thrilling. That’s why so many women have stories about terrible exes, especially with dudes who weren’t even handsome. Women fuck and date based o…
/r/seduction04/05/26 01:18 AM
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Obviously women have more options because men initiate more. Not because they’re outnumbered. An average woman who does nothing can have a dozen men approach her in a year, while an average men might get one or two. And that’s in real life, on dating apps it’s even more exaggerated. If 50% of the population barely does anything while the onus is on the other half to pile up rejections, then obviously the half which has to filter the approaches that come to them has it easier. Not the half which …
/r/seduction02/05/26 11:10 PM
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This is a thread about dating. If you want to talk about the wage gap or sexism, then sure, women have it worse. If you want to talk about dating, an average woman has far more options than an average man. Plenty of women are shit partners too, so the fact about them having to deal with garbage partners applies to men too. It is their fault when they waste men’s time and lie to them. Which is what dating is like for both genders, but one gender has to put in the work to start them the vast major…
/r/seduction02/05/26 10:25 PM
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It’s harder for men because they also have to filter decent women in addition to putting in the work 95% of the time to initiate.
/r/seduction02/05/26 03:23 PM
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Work up to it. Approach and talk to men, approach and talk to women you’re not attracted to, then approach the ones you want.
/r/seduction28/04/26 04:00 PM
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Because some men have to reach out, organize, and pay for dates and end up getting last minute flakes or ghosted too often.
/r/seduction27/04/26 02:03 PM
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Not universal but a good general principle. I had a woman I dated for a while who wouldn’t respond to texts for days
/r/seduction23/04/26 02:37 AM
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Not universal but a good general principle. I had a woman I dated for a while who wouldn’t respond to texts for days
/r/seduction23/04/26 02:37 AM
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In general, yeah, small talk isn’t always super interesting but it is useful to connect socially with other people.
/r/seduction21/04/26 04:58 PM
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During school, you don’t have to worry as much about making the most of a 10 minute conversation. You’re used to seeing the same girls over and over, at least a few of them start to like you anyway if you have a big enough social group or introduce you to their friends
/r/seduction20/04/26 11:59 AM
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You definitely should at least experience dating in school when you’re surrounded by people your age.
/r/seduction20/04/26 12:25 AM
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And you’re some independent researcher with tons of data to prove them wrong, right? You know how to do statistics on the data, right?
/r/seduction18/04/26 09:49 PM
0

Have you seen the mating pattern differences between Muslims and Christians? So what? Are you going to claim religious differences are genetically encoded?
/r/seduction18/04/26 11:21 AM
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What mating patterns differ between human sexes that are from instincts or brain wiring?
/r/seduction18/04/26 04:05 AM
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And what are those “significant biological differences” between sexes you’ve discovered to disprove universities?
/r/seduction18/04/26 02:24 AM
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A phone number means nothing. Text responses are a slightly better indicator of interest, but they can fizzle out too
/r/seduction17/04/26 09:20 PM
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First of all, get off Reddit and find a girl irl. This “friend” might not even be a girl.
/r/seduction17/04/26 05:56 PM
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Yeah, you need a city with at least a few hundred thousand people. Otherwise you can be stuck in a place with minors and their parents and older people.
/r/seduction17/04/26 04:49 PM
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The woman isn’t here, so your ridiculous trial hypothetical is pointless. If a woman just doesn’t want to have sex, then she can rebuff this guy. If her reluctance is based on delusion, then she can actually learn and benefit the relationship instead of wasting their time.
/r/seduction16/04/26 05:16 PM
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You were the first person to mention abortion, and I answered your question. There’s no evidence for anything but this guys words. There’s no evidence that she’s resistant to sex or that this is an actual guy, so what? In the case that he’s accurate, then the right thing to do is dump her or try to teach someone who’s been molded by idiotic social conventions. Purity and virginity are not valuable, this is the truth, not manipulation. The concept that she needs to save herself or make it special…
/r/seduction16/04/26 05:02 PM
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I dated a woman like this, except she was even older in her thirties. My advice is find a woman who isn’t sexually repressed. Maybe if they’re perfect in every other aspect of the relationship it’s doable, but those women are too rare. This woman probably isn’t and you can do better for yourself.
/r/seduction16/04/26 04:36 PM
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Yeah, actually suggesting abortion is more reasonable than avoiding abortions for idiotic religious reasons. Avoiding sex outside of marriage isn’t a real moral obligation any more than avoiding work on Sunday. If she can’t educate herself out of her family’s nonsense then there’s no point trying to do it for her. And if it doesn’t matter where the belief comes from, then it shouldn’t matter whether her sexual desire comes from herself or her boyfriend’s urging.
/r/seduction16/04/26 04:32 PM
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Many of them probably have affairs too.
/r/seduction16/04/26 10:53 AM
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As if her family’s values are objective either. If she’s sexless and OP is not ok with that he should leave and she should be upfront about it.
/r/seduction16/04/26 10:48 AM
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I’m a man still in my twenties and I find older men who go after teenagers disgusting. As an example, Jerry Seinfeld had a 17 year old gf when he was 39. If she was 18 instead, that wouldn’t have magically made it ok. The fact that you losers have to delude yourselves into thinking it’s okay by loudly proclaiming you don’t care about other people’s opinions shows why the law has to get involved. If it wasn’t there, you’d go younger.
/r/seduction16/04/26 02:42 AM
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Probably fresh out of college where that’s near the limit of age difference for undergraduates.
/r/seduction15/04/26 03:35 PM
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This is why the law needs to exist, otherwise as history shows, gross old men would go after children. Edit: The dude who preaches about not caring about other people’s opinion is so weak-minded that he blocked me. Such a hypocrite. If he actually believed what he said, he wouldn’t care enough to block me.
/r/seduction15/04/26 02:26 PM
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For hookups, go right ahead. For anything else, I think it’s sketchy. Also, in general, just because the legal age of consent is 18 doesn’t make it ok to go after people that age when you’re past your early 20s. There were and are places where the legal age is 14, and I guarantee there’d be people going that low if they were allowed to.
/r/seduction15/04/26 01:36 PM
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I’ve had much more interaction from girls I talked to in person and then got their insta. Even with mutuals, a random person probably won’t respond.
/r/seduction12/04/26 03:51 PM
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For you, it’s not too weird if you talk to a 16/17 year old and assume they were 18. If they’re too young, then just don’t pursue anything.
/r/seduction07/04/26 12:53 PM
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Thursday nights can be packed at college bars.
/r/seduction31/03/26 10:40 PM
1

What percentage of those lead to a date?
/r/seduction25/03/26 02:27 PM
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Then you should know that others don’t do it except by random.
/r/seduction25/03/26 02:16 PM
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If you know, then why are you asking to revive it? Send her random bullshit if you want, it doesn’t matter.
/r/seduction25/03/26 02:12 PM
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There is no reviving it.
/r/seduction25/03/26 12:22 PM
10

Depends on location. I’ve found Saturdays are way busier in some places, but Fridays are still workable. Other times Fridays have barely anyone.
/r/seduction21/03/26 05:07 PM
3

Most women don’t deserve time, money, or energy. Literally look at how entitled you are thinking a man should spend all that for you.
/r/seduction18/03/26 07:13 PM
5

At least where I am I see attractive women at night venues approached constantly. Sometimes I have to rush if I also want to approach them.
/r/seduction16/03/26 05:18 PM
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Yup. So many hot women will be surrounded by men. Sometimes I wonder whether the women really think they’re friends or understand the truth.
/r/seduction16/03/26 05:17 PM
2

Words combined with the right tone, facial expressions, and body language.
/r/seduction15/03/26 07:34 PM
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What “science” do you have that supports all that?
/r/seduction15/03/26 06:54 PM
5

Quite a few men are upset with high body counts.
/r/seduction15/03/26 04:40 PM
1

Cool down on the Nietzsche there.
/r/seduction15/03/26 04:39 PM
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How could they not get wet at the sight of this?
/r/seduction15/03/26 04:37 PM
8

Too bad most of my social circle barely has any women my age.
/r/seduction14/03/26 08:54 PM
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I don’t think the state matters, it’s similar everywhere in the U.S.
/r/seduction13/03/26 02:01 PM
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After meeting and going on dates with gorgeous nurses in my city, I have to say nurse or doctor. Good luck dealing with the hours and stress.
/r/seduction13/03/26 01:43 PM
11

Go ahead man. Sometimes the women you meet will surprise you. I once had a gorgeous nurse literally invite me into her apartment an hour or so after meeting her.
/r/seduction11/03/26 12:49 AM
2

Maybe for a few, but others I literally approached rom behind.
/r/seduction07/03/26 06:56 PM
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All of the women I’ve dated or been with never gave me a sign. It’s not necessary.
/r/seduction07/03/26 05:44 PM
7

Even a 1% chance is better than 0%. And honestly, for most average guys they could probably improve their chances to 5% or more if they approach average women.
/r/seduction05/03/26 04:27 PM
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Lmao, that might be true for some women, but I’ve definitely known clumsy virgins and women who go years without sex. Even if more women approach, they’ll only approach above average guys, average men and below are out of luck. After getting into better shape, I would be approached way more often, but none of them would have bothered a few years beforehand.
/r/seduction03/03/26 04:41 PM
0

Well we don’t have control over “every man” and frankly, I’m pretty sure women can go months without approaching anyway. Lots of men and women have gone without for years.
/r/seduction03/03/26 03:05 PM
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You think women don’t want me because I’m not married in my mid 20s? You’re clearly not the sharpest.
/r/seduction03/03/26 03:04 PM
1

I’m not married. I’m still in my mid 20s.
/r/seduction03/03/26 12:16 PM
1

That shit doesn’t work. The years I didn’t approach, not a single woman approached me. It would be the same for lots of men.
/r/seduction03/03/26 12:10 PM
3

I went on a date in January with a girl I first met at a cafe. First words I said were “Excuse me, hi. I wanted to say, you’re really cute.” We chatted for a little bit. I got her number, and then we agreed to a date later that week. Before her, the last woman I dated was one I met at a bar. We’d made eye contact a few minutes earlier, and then I literally just went up to her and said I’d like to introduce myself. She, her friend, and I chatted for a little while and they left after I exchanged …
/r/seduction02/03/26 08:01 PM
3

Go to bars and cafes and talk to women there. Pretty much the only way I’ve gotten dates.
/r/seduction02/03/26 07:27 PM
2

There have been women who realized I knew more about their anatomy than themselves, although only once did they thank me for correcting them. So many are insecure, or mention their exes repeatedly, so I have no issue in regarding them as having less self-awareness. Some just end up repeating the same mistakes and being unable to fix themselves. Others manage to learn, although they’re not worth spending the effort to teach.
/r/seduction02/03/26 07:26 PM
10

The most receptive women have been older than me, divorced or had a string of failed relationships. Not sure why, maybe I seem like a “safe” option. Sometimes I attract girls in their 20s like me, but not often and their interest fades fast.
/r/seduction02/03/26 05:00 PM
4

Maybe. Some people come off as strange or boring in the first minute of talking to them. We can’t tell just from your comments. If you want to seem more fun, try making jokes when you talk with your friends at a venue and laughing a bit at yourself even if they don’t find your jokes funny. Don’t be too serious.
/r/seduction02/03/26 02:36 PM
22

Ok. Then you can give up, or you can put in effort like most men and work through reading signs better or improving your approach method.
/r/seduction02/03/26 02:31 PM
82

Surprisingly few women seem to realize this, but you can approach too. If you’re actually attractive, you’ll do way better than most men who have to do the equivalent of throwing shit on the wall and seeing what sticks. Not to mention you can go to guys you actually find attractive rather than passively waiting for anyone to come up to.
/r/seduction02/03/26 02:26 PM
1

We've seen enough women say things and then do the exact opposite too many times to trust them. Also, they're painfully lacking in self-awareness.
/r/seduction02/03/26 04:13 AM
34

I’m in an engineering department with middle aged men and like 10% women. Fucking hate it.
/r/seduction01/03/26 09:09 PM
3

There’s little point trying to analyze the flakey girls. Either find one who’s consistent, or just accept the flakiness and rotate through girls.
/r/seduction28/02/26 10:01 PM
3

You don’t know the quality of my anecdotal evidence, and frankly, I don’t really know or care about yours. Yeah, maybe some random percentage of women in their 20s are single worldwide, but that’s irrelevant if the stats differ in the cities or towns each person approaches in. I don’t use this as an excuse to not approach, but after 200+ of them, I notice a pattern.
/r/seduction26/02/26 09:13 PM
2

Either anecdotal evidence is useful or not. Claiming that you’ve found the most effective method from your own anecdotes is also biased. I mainly go after girls in their 20s because that’s my age, and I go after attractive ones, who seem to have boyfriends 80+% of the time. Their boyfriends even sometimes show up after returning from the bathroom or whatever.
/r/seduction26/02/26 08:27 PM
3

Maybe any random woman in a specific age range has a 50% chance of being in a relationship, but let’s be honest, we’re cold approaching based on physical appearance and way fewer of the attractive ones are single.
/r/seduction26/02/26 02:13 PM
1

I’ve pretty much only ever had one good wingman. He pushed me to get past my discomfort and nervousness, and he had a gf already so he didn’t care about getting girls himself, but unfortunately, I had to move to a different city from him.
/r/seduction23/02/26 03:12 PM
5

You definitely can meet, date, and sleep with women at bars. And hardly anywhere else has the same concentration of them that are actually attractive.
/r/seduction21/02/26 06:21 PM
3

A lot of the advice is to make it a part of your life rather than some high stakes activity. Chatting, flirting, and sleeping with women can be fun, and frankly it’s the case that for lots of people modern life makes that require effort to seek out.
/r/seduction17/02/26 03:53 PM
1

Besides asking more experienced people, you have to experiment. If you try something and it seems to worsen your attempts like five times in a row, then change it. If you try something and it seems to improve your next five approaches, keep doing it. One example is that I used to walk up to women too quickly and scare them. That was because I was nervous, and since I'm a fairly tall and solidly built guy, it can alarm them. So, I learned to walk up at a relaxed and self-assured pace and it works…
/r/seduction14/02/26 07:35 PM
1

That’s a decent rate for an average looking guy.
/r/seduction12/02/26 01:09 PM
2

Great advice. Ridiculous that it’s being downvoted.
/r/seduction07/02/26 03:43 PM
19

Surely it must depend on the accent. Like, I don’t think a Chinese accent would work well for guys. While a British or Italian accent could work wonders.
/r/seduction07/02/26 03:08 AM
0

If it were up to me, not a single cent of my tax money would go to any of those things at all. Plus I’m not a bad person for saying this either. So it should be obvious to you that the government doesn’t obey you, and won’t give you a sexbot either. It’ll do stuff you don’t vote for and it’ll do stuff you even vote against. A lot have. They’ve given up, they’ve committed suicide. We have others who can’t want to die all because they won’t get have a chance of having their desires of a romantic a…
/r/seduction06/02/26 05:21 PM
0

So you think the government does all this stuff you don’t like with your taxes and also that you can convince them to give you a sexbot by voting for it. Perfect logic there. If you really think men will leave society because they don’t get sexbots, have you done it yet? I hope you’re a troll because if you really believe all this nonsense then you’re too far gone for anyone to help you. Go outside, look at the couples with ugly men. I’ve seen plenty, even couples with hot women and ugly men.
/r/seduction06/02/26 05:09 PM
1

I don’t think this girl is into you. Go ahead and text if you want, but she just said she’s busy. If a girl’s actually interested, she’ll tell you what days she’s free.
/r/seduction06/02/26 05:04 PM
1

How much do you think a realistic sex bot would cost? Even if they ever become widespread, they’d be like cars, $10k+. Something most men would take years-long loans to purchase. No government is giving men that. And that’s frankly a really optimistic scenario. Even if (big if) it’s technically feasible now, it would probably be millions of dollars. Also, honestly, lots of men could do better if they went for average or unattractive women. Saying they should get sexy fembots from the government …
/r/seduction06/02/26 04:44 PM
0

That’s an enormous ask, at least right now. There are no realistic sex bots in the world. Maybe in like 200 years someone will invent good, cheap ones, but otherwise it’s a delusion.
/r/seduction06/02/26 04:10 PM
1

You can survive being locked in a room with only food and water, sure. That doesn't mean you'll be happy and fulfilled.
/r/seduction05/02/26 03:59 AM
2

Some non-introspective people do better. They just act on instinct and find the women who respond to that. Presumably, conservative men are finding conservative women who believe the same things.
/r/seduction04/02/26 10:38 PM
5

Well, I doubt most men are going to appeal to the majority of women unless he’s at least an 8. I’ve seen enough pretty and even gorgeous women with ugly men to realize that they’re more interested in excitement than just looks. Being a good listener generally isn’t enough. They need to be entertained, even though most of them aren’t that interesting themselves.
/r/seduction04/02/26 10:16 PM
3

You just don’t understand basic human needs.
/r/seduction04/02/26 10:12 PM
1

Unless you’re aromantic, you do need love and intimacy to be happy and fulfilled.
/r/seduction04/02/26 09:48 PM
5

Lmao, I’d gladly have sexbots over most real women, but why should the government (ie other people’s taxes) pay for it? As much as I hate it, I went 22 years without sex and I’ve known 30 year old male and female virgins who are still functional. It’s not like it’s a debilitating health issue.
/r/seduction04/02/26 08:46 PM
31

I have a master’s degree and dating has been a crapshoot. Although that’s fairly expected given that I’m in STEM and there’s like an 80/20 gender split or worse in most of the environments I’ve been a part of. Get a degree for career or education reasons. Not to get a relationship. I’m more educated than roughly 85% of the population but that’s barely relevant.
/r/seduction04/02/26 07:39 PM
1

For actual dating, I'd say it can vary. Cold approach can get you women you actually don't like after getting to know her. At least when you've hung out for a while beforehand, you get a better idea if they're actually your type. For hookups though, cold approach and apps for handsome dudes are way better.
/r/seduction04/02/26 02:43 AM
1

I’ve wasted enough hours of my life talking to drunk idiots. I’ve proven to myself that it’s not necessary to attract women so I won’t bother.
/r/seduction04/02/26 02:11 AM
54

Honestly, one thing sounds like your conversations aren’t that interesting. Learning about their program and age is just bog standard. If you’re approaching strangers, you really need to make the interactions memorable in just 5-10 minutes before asking for a number. Make jokes, tease a little bit, compliment them or flirt.
/r/seduction30/01/26 01:48 AM
2

Why not talk to girls at your school? Trust me, after you leave school, it’s going to be hard as hell to be in an environment with women your age unless you already have them in your social circle.
/r/seduction28/01/26 10:21 PM
4

This was when I was more experimental and direct. Basically, I said, "Excuse me. I wanted to say, you're really cute." She then asked me something and we started talking more, and then said I could take a seat next to her. Really taught me that finding the receptive girls is the way to go instead of working the disinterested ones.
/r/seduction26/01/26 04:40 AM
11

I'll give a specific example. Last July, I met a woman at a bar. Didn't plan anything, didn't even mean to take her home. I was more in the practicing stage of just doing approaches. She's surprisingly receptive, and an hour and a half of conversation later, she invites me to her apartment with no prompting from me.
/r/seduction25/01/26 11:38 PM
1

It sounds silly, but I’ve found that there’s really no substitute for confidence other than genuine success. Faking it is just doesn’t work. To get that first success just takes lots of attempts.
/r/seduction24/01/26 09:25 PM
9

Tbf, a mildly attractive woman has to just wait around and guys will come up to her. So yeah, guys tend to be annoyed by that, but usually not for too long.
/r/seduction23/01/26 06:08 PM
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You only need cold approaching if you want to date or have sex and your social circle doesn’t have people you want to do that with.
/r/seduction23/01/26 06:03 PM
1

I don’t organize on the approach usually. This particular girl was from a dating app, but it’s happened a couple other times from girls I approached in person. Set a date, and then last minute cancellation not for sudden emergencies but because of changes in mood. And they have such low self-awareness that they admit this and think I’m not going to disrespect them for it.
/r/seduction23/01/26 04:41 AM
1

Lmao, and if someone has to drive an hour everyday to find places like that? You really did just mean this advice for guys in large cities.
/r/seduction22/01/26 08:34 PM
1

Nightlife venues are generally garbage for finding girls in their 20s unless you’re in a city. And it has to be a large city for it to be active on a week night.
/r/seduction22/01/26 08:29 PM
0

Around campuses are the only places I’ve found that have women I’m actually attracted to that are feasible to find multiple in a few hours. I spent over a year after learning about game roaming through the town I lived in. If there’s some spot where 20s women gathered, then I never found it. Literally 99% teens and 30s+ and I even gave a 30+ woman a try before learning firsthand that women do get worse after a certain age. You literally listed bars and clubs, as if that’s not the most typical su…
/r/seduction22/01/26 07:45 PM
-1

Because plenty of other guys are in the same situation that I was able to leave, and frankly, even the city I’m in doesn’t have enough attractive women for me to do the nonsense OP is spouting of finding twelve everyday. On weekends, sure, not on work days.
/r/seduction22/01/26 07:31 PM
1

I’ve been to them. Barely anyone in their 20s and I’m not dating a woman in her thirties again until I’m the same age. Which is why I moved to the nearest city with multiple universities.
/r/seduction22/01/26 07:26 PM
3

There are no crowds with attractive women except in large cities. I know because I’ve been to NYC and London and returned home only to find barely any women in my age range at any active local spot. And it’s not some rural town either but a fairly large town that happens to have few people in their early to mid 20s.
/r/seduction22/01/26 07:21 PM
2

Yep. Ridiculous. How does this man expect people to find twelve women to approach every single day? Does he not have work? Does he think everyone lives in a city like NYC where you can wait fifteen minutes on a busy street and find an attractive woman in a certain age range? And approaching unattractive woman or men is just for practice, so I don’t even bother considering that a real approach.
/r/seduction22/01/26 02:04 PM
3

I’d say more timeless and mature. I haven’t tried to look particularly trendy but it may work for some guys. I’d expect better for men in their early 20s.
/r/seduction02/01/26 04:34 PM
6

Besides practicing a lot with talking to women, dressing well will really help you. When I started putting more effort into fashion, I would get women come up to me at bars more often.
/r/seduction02/01/26 04:20 PM
11

Women have it way easier because they can both learn seduction and wait around patiently for some guy to come up to her at a bar or other venue. Meanwhile, the majority of guys have to learn and hardly ever get women come up to them.
/r/seduction01/01/26 05:30 PM
3

I once met a flight attendant at the Smithsonian in DC and had dinner with her that night.
/r/seduction31/12/25 04:03 PM
19

Pretty much the only way is after talking to a bunch of girls and getting more experience. You’ll eventually realize that you have your own preferences rather than being attracted to every girl available.
/r/seduction28/12/25 09:59 PM
4

I agree that waiting in lines is pointless. Some nights though, at least in my area, the quieter bars don't have women I want and I have to go to clubs. I'd say that clubs can have be a decent chance if you have a good strategy.
/r/seduction27/12/25 05:37 AM
46

Yep. When the traditional bars in the area are lacking, we have to follow the girls into the clubs or just call it a night.
/r/seduction27/12/25 05:29 AM
2

I’m not talking about you, I’m talking about guys like OP who think woman who want to be friends first before a relationship will date them just because they’re friends first.
/r/seduction13/12/25 04:18 PM
5

Right, just because a woman prefers being friends first doesn't mean she'll date any friend. Would guys with female friends be down to date any of them seriously? Not just sex, but a relationship. I think not.
/r/seduction13/12/25 03:36 PM
4

Yes. I actually met a girl at a museum and then later had dinner with her that night.
/r/seduction09/12/25 07:23 PM
2

The age is the issue too. Maybe he should care more about lying about his age by a few years when it’s only a few years that would have made “dating” this girl rape.
/r/seduction08/12/25 11:26 PM
2

When it starts off with a 30+ year old man lying to a barely legal adult, yeah.
/r/seduction08/12/25 11:09 PM
1

If the people on dating apps are 30+ and lie to fool 18 year olds, then yeah, they're just as pathetic as you. The world exists with age gap relationships. Get over it. Or don’t. The world also exists with abusive relationships. That doesn't mean they should be tolerated or that they shouldn't be criticized.
/r/seduction08/12/25 10:56 PM
1

No, you suspected she wouldn't accept your real age, and you got rejected for your failed lie. You're a creep whose limits are how big of a lie you need and how much the law will stop you.
/r/seduction08/12/25 10:44 PM
4

The saddest part is a 30+ year old man whose use of hindsight is that he should tell bigger lies in order to sleep with girls as young as the law allows him to.
/r/seduction08/12/25 07:41 PM
2

Dude, trying to go after 18 year olds when you’re past 30 is sad. Especially lying to her.
/r/seduction08/12/25 07:15 PM
2

How do you find so many women alone at these places? I’ve been to multiple nightlife venues around NYC, DC, and a few others and 99% of the time they’re with friends.
/r/seduction05/12/25 01:07 PM
5

One thing you can do is ask their opinion on a social situation. Say you heard about a disagreement between a couple you’re friends with. Maybe start off with a compliment about her social skills, “By the way, you seem like a good person to ask about something that happened between this couple I know. ” Ask her opinion on it. Who was right or wrong, what they should have done instead. It doesn’t have to be a couple. It can be work drama or something. It can be something that happened years ago, …
/r/seduction24/11/25 03:07 PM
5

Other women have given the advice to not hesitate, and that standing around waiting is creepy. So frankly, I’m going to take advice from the women who actually helped me instead of someone who wants to shut down men from approaching just because he hasn’t received some obscure sign.
/r/seduction22/11/25 06:50 PM
2

If men didn’t have to do a mass shoot, we wouldn’t. Should a man give up forever immediately after the first couple rejections?
/r/seduction22/11/25 06:22 PM
5

We don’t, because it’s only true a small percentage of the time. I’ve approached women and women have approached me. Just don’t go to bars if you don’t like it.
/r/seduction22/11/25 06:12 PM
3

1 out of 50 or 100 sounds about right. It can fluctuate a lot depending on what kind of girl you’re going after. If I lower my standards, I can get numbers and dates way more easily than with more attractive women.
/r/seduction22/11/25 06:04 PM
6

Random people talk to each other in bars. Regardless of whether it’s men to women, women to men, or all in between. If you don’t like it, say so and they’ll probably leave.
/r/seduction22/11/25 06:00 PM
1

Bookstore/museum approaches can work by commenting on the books or exhibits that you’re both looking at. In other spaces it can work, but it’s heavily dependent on the situation and what’s happening.
/r/seduction22/11/25 05:58 PM
2

It’s worked somewhat in NYC and London but when I get back home the appearance of single attractive women is way lower.
/r/seduction22/11/25 12:48 PM
1

Yep, acknowledge that it's odd to suddenly talk to a stranger walking by, and be straightforward. Also, say this with a decent smile.
/r/seduction22/11/25 04:49 AM
36

This is heavily region-dependent. If you want to talk to 5 decently attractive age-appropriate woman in a day, it could take you hours of searching unless you live in at least a mid-sized city. Especially as a working adult, you pretty much only have time for that on weekends.
/r/seduction22/11/25 04:47 AM
1

I’ve already practiced in malls and bookstores, and frankly, I don’t think it matters what I open with as long as it’s not nonsensical or insulting. I do agree that most cold approaches don’t end with exchanging numbers or IG, but I’ve gotten decent enough during the day to satisfy me. The reason why I go to bars is that I need more practice with groups and honestly, it’s faster than waiting around a cafe or something for over an hour until I see someone I’m attracted to.
/r/seduction18/11/25 02:02 AM
1

Not at all what I said. As I pointed out, I've already had girls ignore me and reject me. The difference is I was confused by why this particular one got into a rage the second I started speaking to her.
/r/seduction16/11/25 04:54 PM
5

Makes sense. This was actually a bar I haven't been too that often, and I do vary my approaches somewhat, but oh well, people make their assumptions.
/r/seduction16/11/25 04:43 PM
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