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I hate to tell you this, but it really doesn't. IDK, I don't really have a problem as a 37 year old woman. It doesn't seem to be an issue for my women friends either. Might have something to do with social circle, which is made up of a mix of people ages 32-60, successful upper middle-class and upper class folks in creative industries, and everyone is good looking and fun. Maybe it is because we are at similar life-stages. Some are just fucking around, which is cool, some are in LTR's or married…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:44 PM
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I hardly see desperate women mad because all the alphas are being taken away. Because TRP doesn't live in reality. but going out of my way to get men my age or older mad was never part of my endgame. Because, you are a well-adjusted adult. Well-adjusted adults do not act like the way TRP acts. When people in real life act like those who post on TRP, everyone else avoids them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 05:23 PM
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You are so tough, I am in awe...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 02:11 PM
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The divorce rates have actually lowered because less people are choosing to get married, and those that do get married, get married later in life when they are more financially secure. But at least the divorce rate is going down (for Millennials). Why downvote my previous comment which just states a fact that you dismissed?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 02:01 PM
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You're a guy who barely interacts with women. Sorry, women your age think 30 year old men are creepy. Maybe they think you're creepy too, which is why you assume that they must go for older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 01:58 PM
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Not the ones that are "starving for a relationship". That's their prerogative though. Sounds like they don't want to lower their standards enough, but the ones that do, it still sounds like a perfect match for men who are desperate for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 01:56 PM
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Exactly, if a woman is starving for a relationship, she will lower her standards enough to date a man starving for sex. I guess they are made for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 10:35 PM
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Do you understand why the beta (long term partner) feels emasculated when compared to the alpha (short term partner)? Please tell me why you think the beta dude should feel like he's lucky to have that woman. I honestly don't date insecure men so I guess I don't care. A man like that should feel lucky to get any women, even one with low standards, because it sounds like he is starving for sex, so that is a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 06:03 PM
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The average age of marriage for women is 27 while the average age for men is 28. So yeah, people in their 20s, even in this decade, are marrying people who are very close in age to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 05:58 PM
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I know you don't know women in their early 20s, but a 30 year old man is very old to a 20 year old woman. She is in college and he is...hitting on college girls? That age gap gets more acceptable when people get older though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 05:56 PM
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We are made of pure ice. We only melt. ​ But I think it has a little more to do with the fact that men need their wives to live, I guess we tell them to go to the doctors to check out that mole on their back that looks funny... IDK. I fear that will be my parents. My mom is just the more capable person, she makes sure everything is working properly, bills are paid, and that dad stops trying to climb on the roof because she can hire someone to fix the leak or whatever... If she dies first, dad is…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 02:56 PM
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My standards have definitely gone up, but I think it makes a difference for women who are fit, eat healthy, and don't have children (and don't smoke). Although my girlfriends who have kids don't seem to have any issues either. Maybe it is my city but I am in my mid-30s (no kids, successful, fit, etc) and when I broke up with my boyfriend, I was asked out by guys (good-looking, successful dudes, mostly) four times in the first week. I didn't date any of them because it was too soon and my standar…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:48 PM
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(it's why older people die very soon after their spouse does) That only goes in one direction, widowed men die sooner after the death of their wife. It isn't the case for widowed wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:35 PM
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Oh. Got it. Well if a woman is a gold-digger and looking for wealth, pretending not to be wealthy won't be an issue then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:07 PM
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You were talking about pretending to be wealthy before, yes? Hiding wealth is something else but definitely doesn't make sense in the context of this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 04:35 PM
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Not really, maybe at first you can but once I see a persons house or condo and furniture, and once I know their job, I will know. Of course, they can lie about those as well but the lies pile up and are hard to maintain.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 03:08 PM
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Reproductive coercion is around 10% for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 01:54 PM
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Where I live it is predominantly white and it is 100% white men who have harassed me. Black men in my city tend to be immigrants and they are always extremely polite. You're absolutely right about it being about showing off to their buddies. It seems to be the loudest ones are in a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 09:25 PM
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Yeah it is mostly annoying until something worse happens then I remember "oh ya, this is more than just annoying, it is potentially dangerous" but it is more annoying and frustrating than anything else. I gotta wonder about the motivation of these guys because I can't imagine their technique actually works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 08:50 PM
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haha yep. East-coast Portland. New York has the same issues. Boston as well but not as much (it seemed to me). I don't know if you are a man or woman but my boyfriend never witnessed any of my harassment...it just never happened around him. We finally did an experiment where he trailed a block behind me and I got harassed twice within the span of 2 blocks. It was actually kinda mind-blowing because I didn't expect the experiment to be THAT effective. He of course never doubted me but it is somet…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/17 02:31 PM
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I live in Portland, Maine. I think harassment is actually an issue in the city as many of my girlfriends have similar experiences. It ramps up in the spring especially. I also think because I walk everywhere, to and from work, for example, that I just have a lot of exposure. I think it isn't much to do with my looks either just that I have a female form. I have been harassed even when wearing a hoodie while being obviously very sick with the flu.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 09:17 PM
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I think women should just be honest about that. Except it just isn't true. Circumstances actually weight a lot more to me in determining if I am even wanting to be approached. Then the way a guy approaches weighs into that as well. His being attractive only helps once the two things I mentioned are good. If a guy is violating my boundaries, he will automatically be unattractive to me even if he is outwardly physically attractive. This has been the case for me a few times so it isn't like I am ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:48 PM
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Is your problem that people like attractive people? There is no such thing as an unwelcome approach from an attractive man. And that is just simply not true, certainly in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:17 PM
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I have never said I get accosted "every second of every day". That is absurd. I do, however, get harassed in varying degrees every day or every other day because I walk everywhere. The degree varies from being yelled at from a passing car, to something incredibly vulgar being said to me on the sidewalk usually very loudly, to being followed or grabbed. Being followed or grabbed doesn't happen often but it has happened on several occasions. And yeah, I deal with it, but it doesn't mean I shouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/17 07:15 PM
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Of course. I was just replying to this part: unless you're a Fortune 500 CEO almost everyone has 2 minutes to spare to talk to someone because I am not a fortune 500 CEO but I have moments where I can not spare any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 07:46 PM
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Usually if I am on my way to a meeting, "Sorry, I gotta go" is about all I have time for. Not getting numbers. Especially because we probably weren't really having a conversation. I try not to have conversations with people before I am needed somewhere. This is of course a very specific situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 07:37 PM
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Ya I am generally the same. If I have some place to go I will mention that or if they are hitting on me I will turn them down nicely, but generally if someone is interested in talking about what I am reading or doing, I am usually amenable, even if shy. I like to think I am a nice person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 06:49 PM
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You never have to get to a meeting?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 06:46 PM
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What? 100%? maybe? 0%? I wouldn't stop having sex with someone I am seeing unless I stop seeing them and then no, I don't want them to call me sexy. Is that what you're asking? If so, 0%
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 07:23 PM
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I have dated men around my height and it has never been an issue (except with one guy and it was HIS issue, not mine). I guess it would be weird to date someone under 4'?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 07:03 PM
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Amen. I am the mess maker. I have systems but I am still messy. But god forbid when others don't use my systems!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 09:57 PM
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haha! I was 73/55/35 so like...I am very masculine and a little feminine but definitely not androgynous! So I dunnooooo.... I like how you are literally everything in perfect balance. I imagine you sort of float through the air with an beautiful aura of light around you as you travel through different dimensions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 09:57 PM
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A decorator can help you set up a system of organization so that you have a better chance of not making a mess in the first place! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 09:28 PM
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I am not an interior designer although I sometimes get paid to do interior design, it just isn't a huge part of my career which is design. I design a lot of things but I get the big bucks for UX design. And yeah, I think 50% of my job is explaining to people that no, design isn't subjective and that yes, it is important. sigh
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 09:12 PM
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As a designer, it isn't always about aesthetics although that is a big part. Aesthetics is important to the feeling a room gives you, and it can in fact make you more productive or energize you. However, interior design can affect the flow of a space and hinder or help movement and work!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 08:57 PM
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I think the test is misnamed. It really wasn't about roles. It was better about addressing personality than OP's test.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 08:55 PM
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Age: 34 Pill: Periwinkle Score: 58 MBTI: INFP (sometimes INTP) How you think your femininity has affected your love life. Do you think you'd have an easier time if you were more/less feminine? I am more male-minded I guess, according to that test. I am independent and driven, and logical. But I look feminine. It has done me well in terms of relationships. I wouldn't change a thing. Which aspects of your personality are most feminine? Least feminine? I am sexually submissive (in a way, I like to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 08:47 PM
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The pornstars would definitely count as marrying up for these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:37 PM
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Hardy is cut/defined, but not muscular or handsome. lol he is my current obsession. He is amazing. WTF, "not handsome". lol no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 06:20 PM
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Confidence is attractive. Confidence in your example, however, sounds more like arrogance. Arrogance is not attractive in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/17 05:52 PM
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Not as fast as I hoped since it was basically a cult that controlled your every move but I was strategic. I got out and went right to college (a corrupting place in their opinion) and things got a little better after a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 08:56 PM
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I grew up in a patriarchal fundamentalist christian sect. I would say my observations are the opposite of yours. Men were domineering and protective as well as controlling. Women were told to be quiet and men were the head of the households who demanded respect. I am not religious but any means but your post is just silly. I find this obsession with masculinity rather pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/17 04:14 PM
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Ok I see what you are saying. Thanks for clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 07:32 PM
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The correlation might have to be that when you are a virgin, sex makes you really tense. And after you have had sex a couple times, it gets easier. That is it. A penis in a vagina does not cause the vagina to loosen even though redpillers want to believe that sluts are loose or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/17 06:42 PM
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hahahaha no.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 09:05 PM
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my nonsexual misbehavior than my past partners. If I were a man with more testosterone there is no doubt in my mind I would have run into trouble with the law. Drugs? Heists? Drug heists?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 04:27 PM
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Oh of course, your other points are certainly relevant. I was just pointing out that two pieces of "evidence" did not really mean much. Many people don't realize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 04:26 PM
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You grow up on the wrong side of the tracks or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 04:18 PM
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Probably even moreso after I'd fucked 100 girls, because I'd know that if she doesn't fit the bill, there are 99 more just like her. Wait, does that mean you went with her because you didn't know if 99 others would have fit the bill? Sort of an ignorance is bliss thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 04:16 PM
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I'm sure there are high n-count introverts, but I haven't met them. raises hand That's me. My boyfriend can't believe it because I am so socially awkward in addition to being introverted, yet here we are. It also depends on what number is a high n-count to you. My friends have numbers much higher than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 04:14 PM
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hadn't an hymen, was not especially tight Not to get all r/BadWomensAnatomy but neither of these things have to do with the amount of sex a woman has had.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/17 04:07 PM
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I guess she is definitely not my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 02:20 PM
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A little wonky? That face made me jump back a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 06:16 PM
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7 - symmetrical pretty face, above average body and face 9 - pretty face, bangin' body 4 - a yikes face 7 - slightly weird face but a very nice body makes up for it. 9 - HELLO YES PLEASE, she really does it for me. 4 - attractive face but not body 8 - not my type but symmetrical face and very nice body. 4 - attractive face but not body
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 06:02 PM
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The 50's would have been tough for me as a woman, so I wouldn't wish the roles were reversed either because I wouldn't want anyone to be stuck in a role based solely on gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 10:11 PM
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Na. I wouldn't fault a guy for not being interested in me of course but any casual sex I have had had either lead to something more serious or them asking for something serious and me "dumping" them. I don't know if I have avoided being "pumped and dumped" because I tend not to be attracted to players in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 08:30 PM
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Man, those sufferagates had it bad, were often beat by cops, and had all kinds of horrors inflicted upon them. They were, and also were jailed and forced-fed and put into asylums...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 05:55 PM
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Why does everyone hit you with questions and stuff like you made the post? "You can post off topic/jokes/puns as a comment to this Automoderator message."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 05:52 PM
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Which is why the emphasis on looks as ones only value is a load of horseshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:21 PM
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Doesn't sound easy for older men when even wealth isn't enough to attract all the HB10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 02:20 PM
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I would say that your own declining attractiveness IS important if you're trying to fuck women. What does TRP recommend for balding men? For all men they encourage lifting, isn't that about looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 10:54 PM
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No one cares or notices your wealth if they won't even give you a second glance. Unless your wealth is immense but that isn't exactly achievable by most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 10:53 PM
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I had a "unique" face that I just didn't grow into till I was at least 26. Late late bloomer I guess. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 10:48 PM
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Sadly, I don't think 30 is the age that an ugly duckling late bloomer woman finally turns into a butterfly. 25 at most No way. Between 26-28 for me. I just had a baby-fat face up till about 26. My face looks much better now at 34 years old than it did at 24. I am aging well though, thankfully, no wrinkles or gray hair yet. I personally find my friends to be hot women in their 30s. Better style, better confidence, better features. It really depends on the person though, maybe it is because my fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 10:47 PM
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According to the U.S. Census Bureau's Current Population Survey, in 2014, 47.6 percent of women between age 15 and 44 had never had children, up from 46.5 percent in 2012. This represents the highest percentage of childless women since the bureau started tracking that data in 1976.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 10:41 PM
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Can you at least try to back up your statements with sources or anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 05:06 PM
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I have been through countless women, I have got to personally know thousands of women, the story is the same, they function the same. They may use different words but they follow the same script at the end of the day, with the outliers being BPD and other crazy chicks who have serious Daddy Issues. Is it possible that you tend to attract a certain type of woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 04:02 PM
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Maybe men are rating women too high? Women are rating an average man closer to average, they sound more realistic. Average isn't unattractive though, it is just average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 04:01 PM
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I don't read that subreddit for the same purpose but the effect is the same. I feel even more sure about my relationship and my man. I always come away appreciative of how amazing, compassionate, sexy and smart my boyfriend is. Hard not to after reading the words of emotionally stunted men but it is a very unfair comparison. I mostly read TBP to laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:49 PM
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It used to be a big thing in the 80s but aside from a few women I know who go to a tanning booth/bed, most everyone is pretty informed about skin health. You're right though, it absolutely ages people. As does smoking and generally an unhealthy diet and lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 07:57 PM
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I honestly don't think I have seen anyone make that argument. I would like to see some examples. Otherwise, I think I can't change your view because it seems I might be agreeing. I will disagree on the argument being made in the first place, unless you can share some examples of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 09:39 PM
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My advice: Get established yourself so you are not left with no skills to fall back on. Marry a man who is already established, marry older, and possibly, marry a man who already had the starter wife. I accidentally followed this advice as I am established and with an older, very well-established man who was married and had a kid and got divorced (I don't think his intention was to "trade up" though). The point is, I am not worried about him going for anyone younger than me or trading up from me…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 07:01 PM
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I would laugh because he is a liberal feminist like myself but...if that was all a lie in order to get into a LTR with me...which is still strange but lets pretend...if he was an endorsed contributor to TRP, I would break up with him and reevaluate my life. TRP is very much against my values and anything I hope to achieve in life. I would mostly find it funny because he is an incredibly successful man and basically the type to never seek advice, nor need to, from a weird pathetic cult filled to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 06:02 PM
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The average age for marriage is 26 and 27 for men and women. Millennials are on the older-end of the spectrum 34 years old. I am seeing my peers marry at the end of their 20s and the beginning to middle of their 30s. It might be that the majority of Millennials are just not quite at marrying age yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 07:02 PM
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Nobody likes a bunch of whiners. MGTOW are a joke. Funny to laugh at, but rather sad people when it comes down to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 09:48 PM
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I don't know, people sure seem very outraged at the mere fact some dudes decided to stop pursuing women They really aren't though. They don't care. That sub is filled to the brim with losers that are obsessed with women and who have not actually "gone their own way". Just go your own way!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 09:37 PM
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It is definitely bound to happen which is why I might be a little overly-aware. I don't mind too much but still, I am accomplished too, dammit!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 07:26 PM
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I would have never dated anyone 5 years older when I was in my early 20s but I am 34 and my boyfriend is 54. He is hot AF. 100% my type (think the lead on Hell on Wheels mmm). I earn decent money and he earns a bit more decent of money but I have to admit, I get rather self-conscious about if people think he is rich and that being the reason I am with him. Heck, even close friends have inquired about his money. I just tell him that it isn't about money, it is that his dick is huuuuuge.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 07:04 PM
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I am guessing he was a loser. Probably loved in a small gross apartment with roommates. Or he had a wife and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:59 PM
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I saw it once, a very well-liked professor. He was a 10 himself, and possibly the smartest and wittiest dude on the planet and if not the wittiest, he was surely the most interesting. He was also an accomplished artist. So sure, I have seen it once. The chick was so incredibly crazy. We all felt that even though we all really liked the guy, we were all a tad creeped out by that. It generally felt to everyone like it was a really bad idea. Turns out it was definitely a bad idea. She actually stol…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 06:57 PM
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Yeah I really thought it was a good match attractiveness-wise. They are both cute in an awkward way, nothing to write home about, but not fat or asymmetrical. I would say they are solidly average, a 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 08:26 PM
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2)Some men have hobbies that seem childish to women, like for example video games or playing with miniature trains. (not that I agree, there's nothing wrong with having some fun with whatever you like) Many women have those hobbies but also, many hobbies that are seen as girly are seen as childish too. 5)Men tend to want to get married later in their lives than women, this leads some women to say that men are immature. Average age for first marriage is pretty damn close in age to each other. 27 …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 07:10 PM
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Being sick costs a lot of money, I highly doubt there is big payoffs from a terminal illness than a sudden death. Usually, terminal illness bankrupts people. So no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 02:36 PM
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You would come up with any reason to never have to think outside your own world view no matter what study or evidence you were faced with. Let's be real here, nothing would change your preconceived notions. Redpillers are solipsistic reactionaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 02:19 PM
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You do not sound wise to the world in any way. Just so you are aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 08:41 PM
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I am sure you can come up with a million reasons why women will always be terrible in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 08:24 PM
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Do you know anything about buying a business or developing a business? Maybe in your hypothetical, take out the fact that he bought some businesses so I don't have to assume a business fairy swooped down and sprinkled some businesses onto him. Otherwise he just sounds like a smart man who has the capital to now do what he was always capable of doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 06:21 PM
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You can buy anything but generally it takes time to buy multiple businesses. I am just trying to use your own hypothetical here. Even in your hypothetical, the guy doesn't seem accidentally capable, he seems pretty capable and would have more qualities than just having money.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:54 PM
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But that's not the truth, is it? It is the truth as far as he knows about her because he has no idea if she was cheating or not. He doesn't have to bring up the fact that he was obsessing over her every laugh and hairflip because that is weird. Why in front of the guy? That would sound real casual. /s Because couples generally know where each other are and healthy ones might even not know their SO's every move but saying this in front of them is probably no big deal. No one is accusing anyone of…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:52 PM
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Well he has to be smart to choose the right business that he can grow or can earn a profit from, right? If they were already grown business with obvious profits, I doubt he could just outright buy them. Also to buy several business in the course of 1 week shows he knows the right people and is a mover & shaker. It takes a long time to buy a business, so him being able to buy several in such a short time shows just how smart of a business developer he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:26 PM
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That is quite a reach you're are making. A reach that you are not willing to make in order to believe that women can love men in a "pure" way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:24 PM
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If he says "I saw you out and you with other men, answer for yourself!", that is on the spot. If he says "I saw you out the other night, I meant to say 'hi' but you seemed busy! If you see me next time, be sure to talk to me!", that is normal friend conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:21 PM
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This is the correct answer. OP seems to want to make this into a thing. He can be completely casual just by saying "hey, saw you out, you seemed busy! next time, I will say 'hi!'" and see how she reacts. There is no way to know if there was cheating happening. I actually think saying that in a friendly manner to her while she is with her boyfriend will help to alert the boyfriend in a really innocent way, if something is afoot. If the boyfriend knew she was out, shouldn't be a big deal. If not, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:19 PM
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That is a lot of words spent obsessing over your friends girlfriend. Anyway, it is possible her job puts her in situations where she might work with fancier clients so maybe it isn't unusual. Maybe. That being said, don't be weird about it, don't treat it like a thing which you are making it into. Next time you see your friend and his girlfriend, say "hey I saw you out at XXX, I wanted to say 'hi' but you seemed busy!" because that helps you not seem like a weirdo and also gives your friend a ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:15 PM
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Ok so in your story, the man who wins the lottery is also a smart business man who really just needed capital to rocket himself off the ground. Again, that sounds like he is more than meets the eye. Not just someone who simply won the lottery and suddenly had more money, but someone who has an entrepreneurial spirit and was smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:09 PM
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I would rather be with a man who I am completely attracted to and feel comfortable with. That is a lot more sustainable for the types of romantic relationships I like to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:08 PM
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If your premise is true, why would men more likely divorce a sick wife than a wife divorcing a sick husband? 'In sickness and in health' seems like it would be pretty good measure of "pure love", right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:04 PM
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He wins the lottery and buys and runs multiple local business in the span of 7 days?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:01 PM
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Women don't require arousal to have sex, just the desire to please their partner. Well you are 100% incorrect there. Sex will be incredibly uncomfortable and unenjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 04:56 PM
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I would never claim to not be selective. My standards are on-par with what I bring to the table, I try to be realistic, but why would I go for just anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 09:30 PM
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There is plenty of data, it just goes against what OP and other RP men in this thread are saying... They don't seem to like facts though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 08:18 PM
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Hamstering and solipsism everywhere...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 08:17 PM
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My boyfriend is the neat freak and he always complains about "all the pans!" I use when I cook. But we have a rule, if I cook, he cleans.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 06:08 PM
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The rule in my house is whoever cooks, does not clean. Whoever enjoys the meal they didn't cook, they clean up. I REALLY like that rule because I love to cook and I like cooking for people, and I HATE cleaning. I hate it. My boyfriend is a neat freak, he cleans up the mess I make.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 06:08 PM
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A housekeeper is generally more affordable than people realize. Eating out, however, I don't want to think about how much my boyfriend and I spend to eat out... I think I spent $130 just for brunch sunday... The housekeeper though, pretty damn worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 06:04 PM
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Same. I am chaotic and my work spaces are especially chaotic. But my place is still clean. I hire a housekeeper for that shit though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 06:02 PM
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By law, he could have gotten alimony. Is that the crazy part?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 03:31 AM
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Why should I be interested in the majority of men? Are you interested in the majority of women? How does it make your observation valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 03:29 AM
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My boyfriends ex wife almost had to pay alimony to my boyfriend when they divorced. He actually made 6 figures, just her income was a higher 6 figures. Also she has the main custody of their kid which he pays child support for. My understanding is that they combine the incomes, come to a percentage of child support based on that, and then the non custodial parent pays a percentage of their income. So, the parent with custody is still paying child support but it just goes to them so it doesn't ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 09:16 PM
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Possibly, but to be fair, I am not bipolar (like the other commenter) and it wasn't exactly an insight into the type of person I am or what he would have to expect. I imagine if being the crazy one was not a one-off, I would have that conversation early, I think?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 08:40 PM
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That makes zero sense since biology would push you towards better parents to make better offspring. A dumb mom will make a dumb baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 08:34 PM
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I have definitely said to my boyfriend (and we are planning to marry eventually) in regards to a previous relationship that I was the crazy one there, I had no problem talking about that because he knows me well and it was an unusual thing for me. I guess what I am saying is that it isn't unheard of to have a similar conversation and have it not feel like a bad omen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 08:32 PM
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I have dated a range of men, some with more feminine features and zero facial hair, some short, some tall. My type is "attractive men who are witty" if I had to name a type. That being said, my boyfriend looks like the man on the left from the show Hell On Wheels. And he is also the masculine energy, and sharp-witted badassery with a strong sense of ethics, like that character in the show. I fucking love it. He gets comments all the time because he looks so much like that character. I think that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 08:16 PM
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A smart masculine man essentially. Very much so. What do you mean by 'not in the insecure way redpill is'? Well, redpill is full of insecure men and I know they realize they are not "alpha" and that is why they are, to learn to be alpha. So I am not talking about them. A few in there who bill themselves as "alpha" seem to be insecure and their behaviors and advice revolve around their own insecurities. Gaylubeoil, for one. And Redpillschool to name a couple examples. How feminine or girly do you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 08:09 PM
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I earn a very good income. It means I don't have to consider what a man makes when it comes to relationships. It means that the man I am with, I am with because I genuinely WANT him, I am sexually attracted to him, and I want to be around him. I don't "need" him to live a fancy life or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 04:16 PM
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Well, to use my current relationship as an example, I would say equality does not degrade sex, it enhances it. My boyfriend and I have always considered each other equal as far as status, intellect, and attractiveness, is concerned. I suppose I can take salaries, one area where we varied, and base "equality" off that, it is what we invest in the household, so why not I guess. When we first started dating, at some point he made 3x the salary I made. Sex was still amazing for both of us. He is typ…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 04:12 PM
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You're right, definitely lack of experience. I think he really wants his dream to be possible even though everyone is telling him very practical reasons why it is probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 07:55 PM
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This guy doesn't sound very smart...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 06:33 PM
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Do you know any rich people? I don't think you do. You have big dreams though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 06:32 PM
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They don't. Statistics show that people tend to marry those in their economic class.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 06:31 PM
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Eck. Nope, not for me. I like fit, that guy is veiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 08:32 PM
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Men are far more responsible with money on average The opposite is true, actually. Men make more risky financial decisions. Women make more stable financial decisions. Generally speaking, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 09:11 PM
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That link does not back up your statement: Most tattooed people are criminals, that's a fact. So, it is not a fact, even if you slap the word "fact" on there for no reason at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 06:35 PM
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You keep saying the same thing over again, I can't tell if you are being purposely obtuse. Do you understand the difference between these statements: "Most criminals have tattoos" which is what you are saying now, which I agree with and then this statement: "Most people with tattoos are criminals" which was your original statement which was a stupid statement to make and it is ok if you are changing your stance on it, considering it's ridiculousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 06:24 PM
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Then you are actually saying "most criminals have tattoos" not "most tattooed people are criminals". Do you understand the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 06:18 PM
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100% of tattooed criminals have tattooed and are criminal. Are you being purposely obtuse? Anyway, you are ignoring your original statement, care to address that? As to the link to a study, it is specific to "four or more" tattoos or piercings or genital piercings. Not terribly helpful. I mean, you could say that "most people with face tattoos are unemployed" and I would be more willing to agree to that. Purposely obtuse or do you just want to admit you are full of shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 06:10 PM
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I am interested in seeing the statistics that show "most tattooed people are criminals".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 05:49 PM
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Women who constantly get "bad apples" might be bad apples themselves. I say the same thing to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 09:11 PM
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I would rather train with someone who has the body I want to have for myself, so I would train with a ripped woman, in fact I do. If my boyfriend weren't so enamoured with his good genes he claims will protect him from the unneeded burden of working out for the rest of his life...he would train with a really good bro friend of his who is a body builder. Actually, this body builder bro has a body builder girlfriend, might make sense to pay them both to get us both in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/16 02:59 PM
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So you're in love with a guy, and the main reasons you want to marry him have nothing to do with love. They're all about how you stand to benefit financially from the marriage. It sounds like the love is already there, in your perfectly happy, healthy, non-marital relationship, but you want to get married for financial gain? Yes, we would both benefit from financial gain. You're not wrong. The love is already here. My understanding is that marriage affords both of us automatic protections and se…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 06:04 PM
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Once you're married, nobody leaves for free. You've invited the government into your bedroom via a contract. Now, in order to split up, you have to go to court, get lawyers, agree on a division of assets, agree on custody if you have kids, agree on support amounts based on the custody, agree on spousal support if your incomes or ability to work (possibly due to child custody) are disparate. Completely agree but at the same time, it wouldn't be a walk in the park to part now as our lives are stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 04:22 PM
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None of that makes sense if both partners earn good salaries. It seems like money is the root of the problems you mention and the power struggle is based on wildly uneven incomes. If two people have similar earnings, then as a woman, I wouldn't have that "you have to buy me out". I certainly don't have that with my partner (we are not married yet, but we are talking marriage). If earnings are equal, then less pressure is put on both partners to equal out the exchange on the other end. In essence…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 03:21 PM
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Agreed. My adjustment would be: starting with 4A and going diagonally is too much muscle for me. And then anyone above E-ish is too much fat. Pretty much the same, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 04:19 PM
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Na, they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 11:27 AM
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That all makes sense for you. I'm not trying to convince you that you need to be in a relationship. You don't, and your priorities are different from many others. I was answering your general question asking what could men actually get out of a relationship besides sex. Obviously if they have a similar lifestyle and priorities to yours, it doesn't sound like a relationship would work for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 11:13 AM
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I think the real and much better question is: What do men even get out of relationships outside the sex? Similar to what I am getting out of the relationship. We both make god salaries and were living the life when we were single, so when we got together and moved in with each other, we just combined our awesome lives into a mostly-overlapping awesome life. Now we have a default person to go to concerts, events, and restaurant openings to. We also have a person that shares similar values to talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 09:52 PM
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Typical Friday night for me, but those other nights?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 02:34 PM
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Judging from his whole post, I have a feeling he believes droves of women fellate a banana to lure men to their deaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 02:11 PM
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I will lock eyes and smile and occasionally make eye contact at other times during the night. I've never done the banana thing...it's not like you find bananas at bars or catered events or anything... Plus I would see that as a joke rather than an actual thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 09:27 PM
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Right? And I have no doubt they are fully aware of the possibilities, so if someone is both willing and able, we shouldn't bar them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 06:16 PM
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Try to avoid war? All the soldiers in the US are volunteer right now, extend more benefits, open all the branches to everyone who is willing and able, attract more people. If the draft is needed, fine, but I bet there are ways to avoiding needing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 06:15 PM
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Yeah when I travel with my boyfriend, its even better for me because I am shy and he is not. I soften his appearance in a way and he is the extroverted one that pulls people in to social situations. Everyone has always been extremely friendly and outgoing with us, tell us where the best little-known spots are, invite us to parties, etc. When I travel alone (took a week-long train trip last year and my boyfriend hates trains whereas I love trains) and while people approach me a ton (on the train …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 03:16 PM
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Great article.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 01:35 PM
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Women most likely died in child birth (and having still successfully reproduced) while men likely died on the battlefield, and sometimes not having reproduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/16 01:35 PM
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Conscription if used should be equal. It should take job, abilities, and responsibilities into account (I think it does now, right? Like college status, yes?) but not gender. Gender, sexuality, and sex should not matter at all. I personally feel that if someone has the abilities and skill, they should be able to be in any branch and level of the military that will suit them. And I am feminist. To be honest, I have heard most feminists are for women being allowed into all branches of the military…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 08:28 PM
1

ok my digit ratio is low, ring and index are exact same length on both my hands. What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 09:30 PM
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Not OP, but I would say that talking about his feelings are desirable. I want to make sure I am dating a human capable of empathy. I don't want over-emotional (which is the same standard I hold for myself) but capable and caring and open.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 06:17 PM
2

with masculine-digits Do you have rough sausage fingers?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 06:09 PM
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Do you feel the urge to branch swing at the first sign of weakness? no. I am not a branch-swinger. If I breakup with someone it is usually after a decent attempt to work through a problem and if that problem continues, I find that being single is a better option. I don't break up with someone because there is someone else in line. I break up with them because being single (which is awesome) is a better prospect than fixing a human who doesn't want to fix themselves. Do you throw logic out the wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 06:08 PM
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I mean, robbing a bank and having the night of your life is much better than spending 40 years working a corporate job to end up with the same amount of money at the end of your life. I don't think that but I do what I love so it isn't exactly slaving away at a corporate job. Even still, a corporate job is simply better future planning than the shortsightedness of robbing a bank.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 01:10 PM
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I give sewing as an example of one of the things I just dove into because I couldn't find a dress that I had in my head so I thought I would just make it. Anyway, it starts with other peoples patterns (other peoples music) and one could stick to that and get good at that craft which is fine. For me, I started to take a part designs and I started to draw and construct my own patterns. I think any craft can technically be taken to the next level to creation and innovation and they all start out (o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 07:42 PM
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But when women play piano, it's with her wine/tea and her thoughts and it's more meditative than a social activity IMO. But that needed external validation that women thrive on will be lost!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 07:33 PM
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I know more women who play instruments into adulthood. My sister is extremely good and self-taught. The only men I know who play instruments seem to only play guitar which is funny. My boyfriend will learn anything with strings and is currently getting banjo lessons. For me, I had no interest in playing musical instruments back when I was forced to play the flute and couldn't get a noise out of it and I have no interest now. However, there are a lot of things I have taught myself, things that al…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 07:31 PM
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Being a bank robber will get you more money too. It isn't a sustainable strategy to build relationships or lead to a fulfilling long life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:54 PM
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Yeah I think downvoting here is pretty common, at least my internet points tell me that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 06:45 PM
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I chose not to pursue STEM because it isn't where my talents or my passions lie. Well, I did start out as a computer science major but I then shifted to majoring in New Media with a minor in Comp Sci and Studio Art. I am a designer and I have a creative mind with a technical side. I am damn good at what I do though, and the professional accolades are starting to come in. I make good money now. It was hard at first, my field doesn't pay big bucks right out the gate, it's a long term strategy. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 07:29 PM
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My parents had all us kids (4 of us) cook one day out of the week. Great deal for my parents, they only had to worry about 3 days and one of those days they called "every man for himself" night. When I was younger, the meals I made were more packaged type, like hamburger helper, but as I started to master the fuck out of that, I graduated to more complicated and enjoyable things. My parents thought it fair that if we were willing to do the labor, we could cook whatever we wanted, until the secon…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 06:32 PM
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Yep and a huge stress in relationships is usually money. If both people are pulling their weight financially, well I bet there is going to be less stress.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 06:28 PM
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I think I will use my boyfriend as an example because I am obviously hugely attracted to him...So all my comments are based on how I see him and based on our relationship. -In tip top physical shape Fit is attractive but overdoing it isn't necessary. I like guys to be a similar fitness level to me, that is, slim and healthy, eats well, somewhat active. -Someone who's confident and masculine Confident, yes. Masculine to a point, has to be natural, not forced. Overly masculine comes off as paradin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:39 PM
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Only very young and or insecure men even ask. I have never been asked in any of my relationships from the past 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 08:55 PM
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I would say that if two people are married, I can safely assume that they want each other for more than sex. If one of them feels otherwise, there are some deeper issues happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 08:56 PM
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That is not a good reason to emulate someone. If he is living the type of life you do not want, don't do those things. Some people are low energy and some are high energy. Working out helps your energy. Do that. Work at a job you would enjoy, and work hard to get to that job in the first place. There are days I come home tired and stressed but most times I truly love what I do. If I make time to work out, I will feel even better.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 08:15 PM
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It isn't really rare though. I know it is anecdotal but most couples in my social circle earn similar salaries. In a bunch of those, the women out-earn their husbands by a bit with banking/finance jobs while supporting their husbands creative pursuits. My two closest friends, one is a doctor (her husband quit his job to work on a startup) and the other is an exec at a large media company (and her husband works with me at an ad agency, we do ok). Maybe 5% of my friends are SAHM but I actually hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 08:08 PM
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He has been married to his wife for quite a while...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 10:39 PM
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80s nerd definitely had a different meaning than it does today. While nerds might be gawky and hyper-focused on science/video games/fantasy etc, they could still be attractive looking. If I were to watch Revenge of the Nerds today, it just doesn't hold up. Even the social interactions are soooo foreign. There isn't that incredibly well-defined divide between jocks and nerds nowadays. It is so unrealistic. Especially in college. After highschool, that type of shit is just weird. That is why it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 10:32 PM
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The women that are into that and are nerds themselves date nerds. It is almost like people have a diverse set of preferences... Why are the nerds not getting their share of sex with hot, beautiful women? That isn't how it works. There isn't a "share" of sex. And those hot, beautiful women will go for who they want, maybe it isn't a nerd? Maybe if the nerds went for other nerds? A lot do actually, which is maybe why you won't see them posting on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 10:25 PM
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It started as disbelief but these types of things just fascinate me. It seems so illogical and counter-intuitive. I went down a flat-earth rabbit hole last week and I have looked at holocaust deniers websites as well. I just have a lot of curiosity about how people reach these strange conclusions even when they seem to make their lives miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:44 PM
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I know that older women I know are more feminist because they have worked very hard to progress and they don't want to return to that world they experienced. I had a conversation with a friends grandmother who is staunchly pro-choice and she lamented the fact that young women do not understand the importance of safe, legal abortion because they did not see what it was life before Roe V Wade. It scares her. Hearing that from her pained me, I hope that this generation doesn't fuck up what these ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:29 PM
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I would definitely get a license to carry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:21 PM
1

Sounds like a nightmare!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:06 PM
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I was thinking the same...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 09:38 PM
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Child benefits? I feel like that isn't actually a thing unless you love babies. Children are financially/physically/emotionally draining.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 09:36 PM
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I am getting the feeling from this thread and from a lot of RP post that RPers are a bit baby crazy. There is so much emphasis on babies it is unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 09:35 PM
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I try not to live life or view people like there is an apocalypse around the corner. We don't live in a world where everyone has lost any shred of humanity and will have to kill those deemed a threat or less worthy as a means to survive. That view has no relevance here and now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 09:32 PM
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I have a great career and can provide my own resources, so it isn't what I look for in a man. Isn't that better? That I value him for a ton of other things like his sex appeal, emotional connection, witty banter, intellectual conversation, and having my back? It is really great that I don't have to rely on men for a living, so I can actually be in a relationship with someone I truly enjoy and who truly enjoys me?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 09:30 PM
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A guy has to be attractive first. Just like a woman has to be attractive to attract mates. What a man brings to the table outside of that is what keeps a woman around. Same with a woman, what she brings to the table is what keeps a man around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 09:21 PM
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I never wanted kids and I was born into an environment that told me my only value was in raising children. It just never felt right. I value education and intelligence, I value it in others and so I expect it in myself. I am decent looking too but that doesn't get me anything of value for me, I am not a model so I am not making money off of my looks, so why would I place value on that? I take pride in my work, it means a lot to me when people love the work that I do. When someone I never met com…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 09:09 PM
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:(
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 07:50 PM
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I am guessing that those out of his age range or below his "SMV" are completely invisible to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 07:47 PM
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What gender and pill are you? FBP Relative to your age and marital/LTR status, do you have a lower than average number of friends, average, or higher than average? Higher than average. My boyfriend and I are extremely social and involved in our community and the arts. Do you consider yourself an introvert or an extrovert? I am introverted, my boyfriend is extroverted, so we balance out. What percentage of your friends are of your own gender? Friends are defined as people you want to spend time w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 07:43 PM
1

I think you misunderstood or I mistyped. The unemployment rate has risen while the divorce rate has gotten lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 06:43 PM
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It says less and less nowadays because as the unemployment rate increases, divorces have decreased. It does still matter to an extend but certainly less so now. source
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 05:29 PM
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Since women are four times more likely to divorce men in that situation than men are to divorce women, there are a lot of vapid, shallow women out there. In what situation in particular? When a spouse is sick for instance, the healthy spouse is more likely to leave when the healthy spouse is a man and the sick spouse is a woman. When the husband is sick, the healthy spouse, a woman, is less likely to leave their marriage. Doesn't that say a lot? I don't know that calling women who prioritize rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 02:35 PM
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My argument is that relying on developing a wide network and using it as your own personal dating agency and never cold approaching is silly, because not everyone has such a network and there's no reason you can't do both. With that I completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 02:32 PM
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Don't be afraid of work. You are at redpill to work on yourself, right? Well build up a useful and diverse network and social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:14 PM
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Have you tried looking in another location? Maybe in some common meeting areas? I hear females congregate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:02 PM
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I just strike up a conversation with a guy, make jokes, have light conversation and if it is clear we have interests in common, then maybe move the conversation further along. If I am heading to a different spot (with friends) and it is clear there is a connection, I invite them along with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:59 PM
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Ok, why do you have only disloyal honourless cunts in your social circle then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:49 PM
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My experience is similar to OPs, as well as my social circle. Maybe if you are surrounded by vapid, shallow people who lack the capability of deep love, you need to tread beyond that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:49 PM
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Hey, thanks! I know I have worked hard and that makes me proud.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 04:40 PM
1

Yeah, you sound similar to my parents. They had 4 kids, and my other siblings had children and my mom said that she is jealous (like you, not in a negative way) that I get to do things that held my father and her back. At the same time, she has her grand kids to enjoy so she doesn't pressure me for grand kids, and I get to be her travel companion since my parents are retired and set themselves up real nice. I never knew how fun my parents can be now that we are all adults :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:22 PM
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Good point. Lets hope a draft never happens. Although if all shit breaks loose, you gotta do what you gotta do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:19 PM
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The fact is the likelihood of having a draft is real slim. You seem unrealistic and reactionary based on a hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:29 PM
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I don't mean only generally "skilled" people. I am saying it would be based on WHAT those skills are. If someone is good at coaching, getting people to move, assembling and delegating, or if someone would be good at more physical duties, or if someone is a spy or if someone would be great at communication operations. If they don't have those skills, then they would be relegated to grunt work or cook but there would be something for everyone and it would be based on their own skills (or lack ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:28 PM
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That makes sense in your situation. For me, my boyfriend and I both make high-middle salaries that have recently equalized. Either one of us not working would mean losing 50% of our income. If that happened, we would still be well off but we are both rather proud of our work and even partner on projects sometimes. Granted, we don't have kids together and do not plan to have kids at all, our plans include renovating a raw condo space and traveling. Because of that, he values a partner that brings…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:24 PM
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I mean we are talking about hypotheticals here and I think you are making up even more hypotheticals to support your opinions of what would happen. The government could draft a million bears in mech suits into combat roles too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:17 PM
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Yes. The draft should be based on skills, education, family obligations, age, but not sex or gender (or sexuality, for that matter). Draft the highly skilled, smart, brutes, depending on branch and work. That is, if there has to be a draft. It is silly to just pick the first men that show up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:14 PM
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That makes no sense. If the government needs 20,000 soldiers, it is either 20,000 men or it will be 10,000 men + 10,000 women, (to simplify). The outcome is the same, 20,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:12 PM
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I don't think there should be any draft at all. However, if there is one, then gender shouldn't factor into it. Rather, physical fitness, skills, whether one has children or not, their education, etc, those should matter more when it comes to a draft.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:11 PM
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Anyone can make all the demands they want. What matters is what they can actually pull in. Maybe demands isn't the right word. Everyone should have standards, standards that meet what they are willing to give themselves!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:01 PM
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Would you also put your career behind your family or relationship? If so, that makes sense to me. You need to go for someone that has similar values. I personally like men who value their career because I value my career (and don't want children).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:00 PM
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Bullshit. I'm purple but Trp says plenty of positive things about women. They may not fit into your definition of "good" or "positive" but they are. For instance: Trp would probably say that women are better homemakers, better caregivers, more emotionally connected, better at social interactions, etc. They would also say that those are inferior qualities to what men have and that even with those qualities they bring nothing to the table in general. Oh yay they think women can raise a baby better…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 07:57 PM
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Men, as a whole, have more confidence, strength, and power in society than women. Therefore, it's reasonable to guess that in assortative or random mating, there will be more pairs where the man brings more to the table than women in these areas, no? Was mentioned above as well. So which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 07:53 PM
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Right now, you're saying "I want to feel and be seen as equal to a super hot guy because it makes me feel special." Thing is: what do you bring to the table? This is something women constantly demand men to answer, but rarely condescend to answer themselves. I completely agree. I think this applies to both BP and RP, I think people expect so much more from their partners than they give. I want to be equal to my equal. I have dated lesser men and it wasn't good or healthy. The qualities I expect …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 07:39 PM
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She answered your question. You are not arguing in good faith here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 05:15 PM
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Self-control was never his strength. And it was a cycle for him. Spend all the money, can't pay bills, can't pay debts, get depressed about debt and bills, spend money to feel better, rinse, repeat. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 05:14 PM
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It was every time he got any amount of money in his hands. He would have zero money at the end of the same day and would be holding his breath for the next two weeks until he got another paycheck.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 05:00 PM
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It is traditionalist without the moral compass or obligations with a bit of "I got mine, fuck you"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:50 PM
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Xemnas81, I think I have given you a little insight into my background before but to summarize: I grew up in a very strict, fundamentalist religion. Very patriarchal. I constantly saw capable women being disrespected and relegated to a lesser role. I was constantly "put in my place" and told that my intelligence, my education, and any life I would have outside of wife and mother would be useless. I constantly saw uninteresting, uninspiring, unintelligent, cold men put in charge and put in positi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:44 PM
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You don't think that perhaps the higher socio-economic groups who have this view might keep it under wraps? They would be less likely to have the view in the first place because they are less likely to be affected by it or be around people with that lifestyle. Statistics about lower socio-economic groups having more children out of wedlock and more likely to divorce doesn't mean that views like his wouldn't apply to higher socio-economic groups, right? They wouldn't have this view about their so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 09:32 PM
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Careful with the xanax and the vodka, its always a good idea until it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 08:09 PM
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I am going along with his "stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason" premise. Statistically, people in lower economic classes are more likely to have children out of wedlock. They are also more likely to divorce. Going by that, and the fact that this is the type of thing he sees in his social circles, I wanted to find out if stereotypes apply to him as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 08:08 PM
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Consoles, games, DVDs, and often enough that he couldn't pay the rent or electric bills. I think what matters is that bills went unpaid, not what he purchased. He could never get ahead but it was his own doing. He also would try to game the system, like with unemployment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 12:32 PM
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Ok usually it's lower-class people who believe that all women are baby mamas because it's the type of people you hang out with or is in your family, so I was curious. It seems you also see rage where there is none. You need to worry less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 12:30 PM
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I didn't fit your stereotype though nor do many I know. What's your socio-economic background and age if you don't mind me asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 03:56 AM
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I don't have kids nor do will I ever have them. You should expand your mind a little, it's amazing how many people don't conform to your preconceived notions. Any other conclusions I can shatter?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 02:47 AM
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Well I am doing well myself, very good career. My current boyfriend grew up middle class but it doesn't really matter at this point because he also has made a great career for himself. Together we are solidly upper-middle, I think, not sure where the line is. Point is, we are comfortable. I have dated types from a wide range of economic backgrounds, I have even been fine supporting guys who made significantly less than I did. The only time I have a problem is when they are wasteful or foolish wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/16 01:35 AM
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I have an example of both but it is just my personal experience. I grew up comfortably middle class if that matters much. I had a boyfriend who grew up working class poor. Both his parents work and they work hard. His mom is in an administrative role at a medical office and his father is a janitor (manager) for a school district. I don't think they ever collected welfare. They own a small modest home, are stable, drive used cars, have what they need and maybe a little extra that they save for. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 10:56 PM
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Thanks for the breakdown. I think I remember this post, maybe part 2, from a while ago. You are completely right about everything. His FWB is crazy and he is an idiot. She's the exact type of woman who needs "fucking him won't make him want to date you" pounded into her skull the same way nice guys need "no amount of being nice to her will make you want to fuck you." Absofuckinglutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 07:59 PM
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He doesn't seem so bad but the more I read the more it felt like he didn't listen to any advice to not stay in contact with the woman? If I go by what you posted, the woman sounds like 100% and asshole, and well she is obviously unstable. The entire story does not seem as cut and dry as you made it sound. If it is, well then I stand by my first comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 07:44 PM
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I went back and read the thread. Based on the rest of the story, the OP is an asshole as well. The girl is an asshole but now that I know more to the story, OP seems like an attention-whore. If it was as cut-and-dry as what you state above, it would be easier to be so black and white about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 07:18 PM
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Say that the girl in the above story, and women like her (and there's a whole Nice Girl culture out there), are huge, irredeemable, deranged assholes. The OP in that story shouldn't be guilt-tripped into dating her. That is immature, terrible behavior. So, yeah, the woman in the example sounds deranged and she is an asshole. I don't see why anyone would say otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 07:05 PM
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I think it is reasonable to expect someone you are sharing a bond with be nice? Sex is an enjoyable activity, why be mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 06:59 PM
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That does make sense to me. I feel younger than I am, but I always thought it is because I don't have kids or I never went though a divorce. People are always surprised to learn my age. Granted, I don't consider 33 to be old but most people think I am in my mid-20s. I also have interests that might be considered immature (balanced with refined tastes, dammit!).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/16 06:06 PM
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Yeah I would agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 10:55 PM
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You are above average for 50 especially because of the hair. I think this post accurately shows the 4s and 5s of each decade actually. You have to admit that most 50 year olds do not age so well. You have glorious hair BTW. I think the previous posters view of 20 year olds is off though, that guy I would rate as slightly above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 10:55 PM
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No, that's terrible!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 08:03 PM
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I can see your point. I think people should be willing to stick up for themselves but I do find value in learning to deescalate the situation. With my brother, losing fights didn't always end the bullying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/16 08:57 PM
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Agreed. That is why I feel it is important to be skilled in both. It is especially important to learn how to deescalate if you are out-matched physically though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 09:04 PM
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I know she was ready to step in if needed. I didn't notice her until after. She did say she felt that we were handling it and that the dust up would only result in scrapes and bruises which is no worse than the scrapes and bruises we got from riding our bikes along the long-unused train tracks. Damn, now I am getting all nostalgic. Our border collie at the time would have definitely jumped in and I would have worried about her, so I am glad she was in the house...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 08:35 PM
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It is good to use smarts to deescalate a situation but it is also good to be able to defend yourself physically. This is advice my mom gave me. And yes, even a girl like me had to defend myself physically on occasion. I got really good at deescalating situations when dealing with violent shits too. I also got exceptionally good at a verbal smack-down.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 08:28 PM
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My mom taught my brother and I to fight back if we needed to defend ourselves against bullies. One time, my brother and I were getting slightly wrecked down the street, she happened by because she heard us when she was out in her garden, and she came but observed when she saw that we were holding our own. She let us sort it out and comforted us when it was over telling us that we did the right thing and she was proud. It was 5 against 2 btw. I was the only girl. I also will add that my mom gave …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 08:20 PM
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This question is fucking hilarious, that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 12:57 AM
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http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 10:54 PM
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Silly. I have my own career and I take pride in my work and the compensation I get for me work, and I also like to eat fancy delicious foods. I will always offer to pay. Always. My current boyfriend and I tend to split things evenly, we have similar salaries so that helps. We both enjoy eating fancy foods. I dated a guy who insisted very strongly that he should always pay. He made half of what I did, he was stupid. He had a hissy fit about my "expensive" tastes, well I would always offer to pay …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 10:27 PM
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That same study shows women message a wider range of men and men only messaged the very very top % of women...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 10:05 PM
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Thank you. It's been so hard. She really is my best friend. I very much appreciate the internet hug.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/16 09:49 PM
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Pretty happy. Great relationship, living the life. No kids, we travel a lot, we are incredibly social and have a lot of awesome friends. We are both successful in our careers. We really enjoy the fuck out of each other. The only thing going shitty in my life is that my dog is dying of cancer and she has been with me since she was 10 weeks old, she is 12 years old now, she got me through my 20s. She was given 8 weeks to live 9 weeks ago. I am glad to know the truth but my heart aches. She is slee…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 08:47 PM
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TRP generally want children? This surprises me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 11:54 PM
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Na I agree with what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 12:14 AM
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The average lawyers are probably going to be average attractiveness. I should mention that my career and the career of my friends are in fashionable and creative fields with a few exceptions in the financial sector and as long as they are not the wheeled-briefcase modest dress type (what is with that?) they tend to be fashionable and hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 10:38 PM
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My friends and I must be exceptions as well. I hang out with a lot of exceptions. Hot 30+ year olds who don't want kids and we have interesting successful careers. Which leads me wondering, do TRP specifically target naive women early who are the type to burn out fast? That makes their idea of the "wall" make a lot more sense. It also puts their perception of women into perspective. If I were to base my opinions of men, on men under 25, I would assume all men are self-important, uninteresting, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 10:05 PM
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I get the feeling you don't get out much if you believe this represents in any way what a woman would go for. It is hilariously tryhard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 09:10 PM
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Hey if you can find an INTJ partner maybe you can even do this. I am INFP/INTP (my F/T is split pretty evenly) and my best partnership is with my ENFJ boyfriend. I am diplomatic and curious while he is a natural charismatic leader. Yet our relationship is incredibly equal and complementary. For someone who is INTJ, their best match would be someone who is extroverted, an ENTP or ENFP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 02:58 PM
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Xemnas81, coratoad speaks the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 02:40 PM
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You will be an outsider to RP but why is that a bad thing? There are other groups you can feel a belonging too, and it doesn't have to be based on gender-identity until when and if you strongly identify in that area. You don't have to either. While I identify as female based on my experiences living as female and looking female, there is a lot of cross-over and a lot of "masculine" interests and way of thinking that I identify with as well. As a teenager, I was rather adamant about thinking and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 02:33 PM
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Thanks for that info. You're right about it being mostly men on reddit. I never hear slut-shaming much in the real world to be honest, which is why I had thought it is mostly men outside of reddit as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 03:43 PM
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The majority of people who rant about sluts/whores have been male. So I am not sure what the connection is to how TRP views "betas".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 10:43 PM
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Women can go as long as they please without orgasm, their sexuality is reactive to stimuli. uuh no. Also wet dreams are a thing. And masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 10:38 PM
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33 Not married, in a long-term cohabiting relationship, talking about marriage, pretty casual about marriage but very loyal/committed to each other. He and I have never had the dating issues people lament. We have a good thing going on with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 07:12 PM
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DINK is a good model but I don't see the point of marriage in that setup. Pretty much the only real argument that can possibly be made for why marriage has any utility is that it helps provide a stable environment for children. There are other reasons but I am less hung up on the idea of marriage because I don't want children, at the same time, I do see other benefits to it. I don't necessarily buy into that argument with the divorce stats as they are and because, although the idea is it makes i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 07:08 PM
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Your premise is based on children though. I get that most people who marry will probably have children but I know plenty of child-free married couples. My boyfriend and I are talking about marriage and we have no plans to have kids, when my IUD is out, he is getting a vasectomy. We have a ton of disposable income, more so now that we have combined finances. In fact, our partnership has brought both of us a lot of business because of the nature of the work we do and how symbiotic our work is for …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 05:40 PM
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I agree. But how do you differentiate between you and a woman who just says the same despite doing otherwise? Same way a woman can differentiate between you and a guy that is using her. You wait a little to get to know each other and decide if you can reasonably think that the other is the type of person they want to be with and have sex with. How much time that takes varies but it makes sense that if someone is looking for a solid relationship, they might have a few dates with you to try and fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 04:36 PM
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Same here. I don't relate to these stories and my friends don't either. That is why redpill is super weird to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 03:55 PM
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An analysis of the psychometric Big Five consistently find that high levels of disagreeableness predict high sexual success in both men and women. So unstable bad boys are sleeping with unstable bad girls. Seems like being a bad girl gets them more sex from men too. Unstable people sleeping with unstable people does not affect me in the least. They will burn out fast. When I go to a high school reunion and see boys (and girls) who were so popular in high school, who were bullies to me, it is obv…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 10:38 PM
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5, 6, 7, 6, 5, 4 based purely on looks. Conversations with these men could bring their score up or down.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 03:24 PM
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I don't have kids, I work with men and women who have kids, some who do not. I have never experienced any animosity from people with kids except to say they are jealous (in a joke way because kids are hard) of the extra money I might have or the places we can travel to or eat at... but we never would make each other feel bad for our chosen life choices. One of the partners where I work is a mother, and the comment has been made that "oh you're not doing anything this weekend, you could come in!"…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 06:37 PM
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Have you ever been recruited? That's what good companies do, they have head hunters.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 03:50 AM
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Logic destroyed? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 03:29 PM
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Except you could have gotten exactly the same result by behaving in precisely the opposite way while wearing revealing clothing in their presence. So all the mind-games were a waste of time if all you wanted was to get their attention and have them be desperate to be with you. Revealing clothing got them initially, mind-games kept them around. Mind-games got what I wanted which were men who wanted to be with me, with very little work on my part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 03:29 PM
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The fact you admit this show how well RP actually works (let the woman prove she is great to be with) and how being BP is absolutely stupid as bluepers get fucked in the ass: It works to get sex and attention but it made me a shit human. It didn't work for what I actually wanted which were quality, mutual beneficial, loving relationships. No one argues that being a manipulative human helps you get what you want out of others, it is just not sustainable and for a lot of people, it is not fulfilli…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 03:25 PM
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Exactly. Playing that game made me a shit human, and it wasn't going to attract or keep the type of men I actually wanted to be with. It is completely toxic way to think and I am not sure why anyone would actively try for that. Glad you got out of that relationship. The world is filled with really great people and life is too short to stay in toxic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 03:19 PM
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When I played games with guys, when I manipulated them, when I played hot and cold, ignored them, etc...guess what? It worked! I got the attention and the more I acted like I couldn't care any less about it, they seemed even more desperate to be with me. Yeah, being cold does work, but is it what you want our of relationships? I thought less of those men, it didn't attract the type of people I wanted, I also hurt decent men that fell for it. In the end I did not want to have those types of relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 06:03 PM
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If that is your definition of mangina, then I would agree. The world needs more of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 03:40 PM
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When Spring comes around it is like the whole city is a little randy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 12:04 AM
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Some are amazing and some are awful. Most are alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 11:57 PM
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Oh, you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 10:23 PM
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The husband and kids skew data like mad. I am in my 30s and I get approached MORE than I did in my teens or 20s probably because I walk everywhere. I get catcalled daily, and approached weekly. If I am walking with my boyfriend? Nadda. On two occasions I had my boyfriend walk a little bit behind me so I could show him what happens (because it was becoming an issue in my city and he had no idea because he never saw it!) and guess what? BOTH times it was within minutes into our experiment that I g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:49 PM
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Oh shit, if I included catcalling, my number jumps up to 5 or 6 as well in a week. I too live in a city and I walk everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:40 PM
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(i) Which of the following age groups do you fit into? (18-25, 25-34, 34-45, 45-55, 55+) 25-34 (ii) How many times have you been approached by a man in the last week? Twice. If counting catcalling, it jumps to about 5 or 6. (iii) Roughly how many times have you been approached by a man in the last month? Maybe 4 times. I haven't been out and about socially as much lately because my dog is dying of cancer and I am generally pissed at the world but when I attend more events or socialize more, obvi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:36 PM
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An impressive place to work if you are a woman? Maybe. Chances are that if you are a woman and go to work at a company with a lot of women, they will have benefits that might apply to you better. They might have better parental leave, day care, etc. Other than that, success would depend more on their numbers, their profits, their growth. Maybe you didn't completely understand what your friends were saying exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:27 PM
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Hot people date hot people! Mind = blown. I mean, people generally date people within their own attractiveness level already. If you feel you are not dating hot enough people? Get hotter yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:23 PM
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Dating from my mid-late 20s up to my early 30s (where I am currently) has been overwhelmingly open and honest. I am open and honest about my own intentions because I don't want to waste time nor do I want whoever I am dating to waste time. And I would say that men I have dated have been similarly open and honest, the overwhelming majority have. A few have not but it has gotten much easier to sniff out, and I have gotten better at asking direct questions about what it is they are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 05:56 PM
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If you don't want kids and have no problem dating men who already have some themselves, your situation is of course far more comfortable. But if you're a career woman in your early 30s who wants a guy who is your age fuckable employed and has a decent job somewhat entertaining, i.e. not a total bore without kids but wants a family Honestly I am pretty much exactly what you state above, an early-30s career woman. I have zero problem getting dates or interest from men. It might have to do with you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 03:43 PM
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This literally happened to me. A guy I went on a few dates with told me he had slept with "about 400 people". I have to say that it was an incredibly big turn-off. I did not go on any further dates with him. I just didn't feel comfortable with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 10:19 PM
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Nobody agrees on everything but the gist of the question was if your views were making you less attractive to the kind of men you desire would you hide them, modify your approach or stick to lower calibre men who agree with you? I think I would wonder why I am not attracted to men who hold my views. That would be my first question. Or, what is it about men who hold my views make them low-caliber. My views would have to be reexamined if it was becoming an issue and it was something I felt was imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:57 PM
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Regardless of whether he is "informed" or not in his views: Assuming that you find this man good looking, if this was a man you were on a date with and it was dawning on you that he was finding your views on men unappealing, would you downplay your beliefs in order to develop a relationship with him or equally find him unappealing for his general vibe / non-verbal cues? I guess I would not continue to date him because we probably don't have a lot in common or mutual attraction. I would find him …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:46 PM
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That same study showed women messaging men from all over the attractiveness board. Men only messaged the top hottest women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 06:37 PM
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Talk to my boyfriend, he is 53 and certainly does have to be scuba diving, skydiving, etc. Though I admit, he is a freak of nature. What they all share is admiration of male determination in his hobby/interest. Agreed, especially if there is overlap. I could be interested in his hobby if he gets me into it. Visa-versa. We both have things neither of us are interested in personally, and we go off and do those things, but the passion we have is interesting to each other. Every single hobby can't b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 10:24 PM
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As a woman, do you not give a shit about: Big issues? World affairs? Learning about world affairs? History? I care a lot about the "big issues" and world affairs and I love learning about history. These are the types of conversations I enjoy having with people. I am not sure what my gender would have any effect on that. Do you find yourself wanting to talk constantly about meaningless shit instead? Does your "emotion and intuitiveness" dominate your every conversation and thought process? Not su…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 03:29 PM
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Men value commitment to the right woman. Women value commitment to the right man. I have never had any issues with men and commitment, I feel like this is an issue that those on reddit talk about or the Daily Mail or something. Men don't need to be "cured". You get what you give.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 10:18 PM
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For example, consider the most desirable man on the planet: he's the best looking, most successful, and most popular man on the planet. Suppose he gets married to a nice woman. Suppose he gets cancer and needs chemotherapy. The chemotherapy causes his hair to fall out, and the cancer causes muscle loss--he starts to look like a skeleton. His wife is overwhelmed, and she wants a divorced because she just can't deal with the stress. That would make more sense the other way around as studies show.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 06:00 PM
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You are the only one here not able to have a productive conversation. Literally every single person in this post has been respectful and great. You are the exception here. Do you want to have a productive conversation? You started out fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 08:32 PM
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5'4' is short, yes, 2" under me, but I have dated two guys that were maybe 5'5" and 5'4". Aside from being someone self-conscious in heels, it wasn't a big deal. I get that it can hold you back with many women though, that sucks. I don't think you should compensate any more, you have everything else going for you. I can't relate because I have never rejected a guy on the basis of his height before, it's a weird concept to me :/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:59 PM
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Very much appreciated, as is our conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:22 PM
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Except I wasn't attractive and I did not have a lot of things handed to me and I explained why. I find your advice to "just change your reality tee hee" to be patronizing, insulting and unhelpful. I am not giving advice, or that isn't my goal. I am asking if that is possible. I don't know your story so I can not even begin to ask advice. I am curious to figure out how we have come to such differing views of the world and people. You believe I was born attractive and with advantages, I am telling…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 03:50 PM
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You didn't question anything, you made incorrect conclusions. You were doing so well, and now you are just being abrasive which I guess I should have expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 03:11 PM
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Why are you incel? And answer that without mentioning how others are, I want to know what is it about you that you believe are the reasons why you are incel. Like, you are missing a nose or something, things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:59 PM
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Explain please.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:52 PM
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I was an ugly duckling, not born attractive. Made fun of all through school. Reverse the genders in this scenario and a male trying to escape from the same community would have crashed and burned, socially speaking. He absolutely would not have. Men have a lot more support and leeway in this specific community, he would be less likely to leave the community as he has less reason to do so. Life is generally good for men in the community. They are generally not having the obstacles against college…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:49 PM
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That's what I'm doing. All the usual ways. Meds in 2 days. Not to be all pro-pharma but meds that even out an imbalance even in a small way can do wonders for your motivation and outlook. It isn't a cure-all, as it is just one beam in the structure but it can be the difference that gets you moving in the right direction. I wish you the best of luck, I hope you find what works for you. Again in terms of SMP, I am a borderline Elliot Rodger case as I am basically a practicing former Nice Guy gone …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:41 PM
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How did you become a man? What steps did you take?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:25 PM
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Second response as I'm on mobile. An older friend of mine was offloading about his relationship recently. He's a good guy, solid citizen, decent shape etc. but his gf is complaining that he's not exciting her enough. Now sure, nobody wants to hang with boring people, but he's not a personality-free zone at all. If anything he's good conversation, and has an interesting perspective. Got to be other issues there for sure. I mean, I have not continued to date men for not being interesting enough (f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:23 PM
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But I do think basic modern adulthood demands being able to manage the health of a car, change a tire, etc. Or make good investment decisions. Or a whole bunch of similar stuff. That is pretty solid. My father taught me basic car maintenance like changing a tire and changing my oil and changing out a blown fuse. My mother taught me fiscal responsibility although not sure if that sunk in as well as I wished it did but I am not an idiot with money, I spend wisely, I invest. I've just had a discuss…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 02:05 PM
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Oh changing the latter is the right choice. Never try to change others. You choose to be around different people where you can, choose to surround yourself with better people, but never try to change who people are as that would be futile.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:55 PM
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Eerily similar. I am surprised I don't know much about this group, the histories are practically parallel. They seem to be an off-shoot of 7th Day Adventists and while my parents religion denies that, they too are an off-shoot of 7th Day Adventists. The experiences seem similar, the teachings, the loaded language...I will have to do a deep dive. Thank you for this. Very interesting read.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:54 PM
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I don't have advice, although there is "advice" rather packed in there but it isn't my goal of this post. If anything is helpful, that is great and I am glad to have helped in any way. My goal is curiousity or at least getting a perspective from those who have a completely different view of life. Is it simply our experiences forming our perceptions which then make up our reality? Is that why we have such different views of people and relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:48 PM
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Self improvement? Sure. Swimming upstream trying to change everyone else? I'm done with that. Living in some fantasy world where magic exists is pointless. It is pointless to change others, that would be an uphill never ending battle. My thoughts are to actually change who is around you. Or rather, change who you choose to surround yourself with, where you can of course. Lifting heavy, eating right, playing guitar multiple hours a day, learning outside of work to leverage future raises/improve m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:46 PM
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I can empathize with emotionally frustrated men, it just seems to me they are not well adjusted in todays society and put all the blame on women. At it's core, I guess "fix yourself, work hard, become a better person" is good advice, but that's not just what TRP is all about. I feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:23 PM
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Your reality is based on your own experiences and perceptions. Many many others live in a reality that is extremely different from yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 01:22 PM
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Most my friends are in committed relationships including the one in my example. Been with her boyfriend for at least 7 years now. She wasn't a partier. One of my friends certainly was but is now married to a once-partier as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 11:14 PM
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I'd love the women I interact with to be more capable, ambitious, passionate, logical, clearer communicators, more open about what they think, less demanding of being gamed (yes, you heard that right), more able to tolerate vulnerability (not gratuitous weakness)... Et fucking cetera. But they honestly just aren't like that. If they are truly like that where you live, that sucks, I feel for you. Honestly, there was a weird "women are wonderful" effect where I grew up but it was not entirely that…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 10:39 PM
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That sounds completely reasonable to me, and I think an important skill to develop.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 10:16 PM
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It is a small gym, and I haven't notice anyone on facebook. I have certainly sent a text while on a recumbent bike but beyond that... Like I said, they are a bunch of fitness folks, they seem dedicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 09:58 PM
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Obviously, you were. Or you wouldn't have made it into the elite social group. Also, you're an attractive woman. Attractive women have a far easier time climbing socially than ANY man. I think I was a little bit but I still grew up in a family and community that discouraged education beyond homeschooling (which I fought against). College was the cut-off for me, no more community or family support. My family did not speak to me for 5 years. My sister saw me in a super market once and turned right…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 09:56 PM
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I would say that half of the young adults leave (ages 18-22) if they are not married by then. They are usually kicked out, where I left on my own accord. Out of those kicked out, 90% will come back. Those that leave on their own accord, the rate is maybe 5%, most of us stay out. I think the reason is because those who leave are leaving based on their beliefs, strong disagreement with how they are treated or on disagreement over dogma. Some left due to finding damning information on the organizat…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 09:49 PM
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First thing im going to say is that most TRP guys grew up in an environment where women have much more equal power and status as men then you did when you were growing up. They grew up with the idea that women are wonderful and that the way to get a relationship sex with them is to please them with favors and gifts. Then, these men growing up start to notice girls sleeping with guys who are more selfish, and into themselves, not giving women this superior treatment. You have to consider that a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 09:39 PM
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Perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 08:01 PM
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I agree for the most part but I do not think I was dealt that good of a hand, either. If I had went with the hand I was dealt, I would be uneducated and unhappy and probably poor. Getting over the first hump did take initiative and drive on my part. However, I know that my friends and I are in a privileged group, and most born into good families with encouraging and loving parents. I can't attribute my success to 100% my own doing, not by a long shot. What I'm saying is, "just change your realit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 08:01 PM
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It certainly depends on fitness! When I go to the gym, it is 60% women and 40% men. It is a small gym, everyone seems dedicated to fitness. Maybe that is why I see women aging well, because most people I know work out and maintain healthy diets and lifestyles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 07:34 PM
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Started a new thread! And I just wanted to say that I believe in the authenticity of your experience and the perceptions you have from that. It is just interesting to me when it varies so wildly from mine. More in new thread here!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 07:32 PM
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I am ok looking. I am not ugly and I don't think I am average (which to me is neutral or forgettable) but I am not a classic beauty either, I have what I consider an "interesting look". I was a complete ugly ducking as a kid and teenager, never got attention from guys my age, and I was a late-bloomer. I don't think I was even "hot" until 26, now I am much more comfortable with my unconventional attractiveness. Examples: Mila Kunis or Maggie Gyllenhaal. So through my 20s, my social circle wasn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 07:12 PM
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Happiness is a good catch-all word but you get the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 06:57 PM
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It can be a vicious cycle and it is terribly easy for it to become self-fulfilling prophesies. Some strategies for me is to go to an event armed with questions to ask in conversation, a little knowledge about the event itself if it is something I am not hugely involved with (what is the charity for, the sponsors, who is the artist, who's birthday, the host) and work conversations from that. The first thing I do is get a drink. A strong drink. Even having that in my hands helps as I find having s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 06:57 PM
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That doesn't sound so bad! It is funny, I feel like my anxiety stems from just how aware of it I am to the point where just trying to move my arms in a human way becomes a thing I actually have to think about. Not so much now, but those thoughts still come creeping back a little. Just gotta go outside to get some air.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 06:24 PM
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You have ideas about what is making you unhappy. Start there. Don't keep doing those things. Do something else, gather data, essentially. I only know what works for me, and it took a while to get to that place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 06:01 PM
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We all have our own perspectives, our own way of looking at the world, we see what backs up our preconceived notions, our own anecdotes that add to our confirmation bias. My thoughts are, if you are unhappy with what you see around you, step outside of that, shift perspectives, and maybe you will find a better group of people that challenge you, that you can admire and respect. Even though I grew up in that very religious culture, I grew from that completely, and my social circle is made up of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 05:11 PM
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That is trivially true, and adds nothing to the discourse but for making your insecurities feel better. I mean, maybe but... But men age way, way better than women do. is what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 04:54 PM
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In the church I grew up in, it seemed the opposite. Dude marries and bam he gains 10 lbs. We would always joke about how guys always seemed to let themselves go while their wives remained hot. "Fat & Happy" as they would say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 01:15 PM
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Speak for yourself. Bald fat dudes are a thing. If either man or woman cares for their bodies they will do fine. If they do not care for their bodies, they do not age well. It is as simple as that. I know it doesn't play into your revenge fantasy but it isn't a gender thing, it is a health thing. If you are around people who care for themselves, you also tend to take better care of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 01:13 PM
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I just don't see this at all. My friends, men and women, ages early 30s to mid 40s, are all very attractive and successful? Some married, some never married, some divorced. I just never see the bitching nowadays that everyone else here seems to witness? None of us seem to have trouble in the dating world either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 01:11 PM
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Do you just have unattractive friends? I feel like people hang out with others who are have relatively similar attractiveness. Ones social group says a lot about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/15 01:09 PM
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That same study is showing that women were messaging a wider variety of men, not the top 10%. In fact, it seems that only men were messaging only the hottest women while women were messaging all sorts of men...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 03:39 PM
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INTP-T (the logician). I think this describes me well but I also identify with INFP (the mediator). The INTP personality type is fairly rare, making up only three percent of the population, which is definitely a good thing for them, as there's nothing they'd be more unhappy about than being "common". INTPs pride themselves on their inventiveness and creativity, their unique perspective and vigorous intellect. Usually known as the philosopher, the architect, or the dreamy professor, INTPs have be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/15 07:45 PM
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To me it is believing in equal opportunity and working towards dismantling rigid gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 09:16 PM
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Women who aspire for leadership roles most certainly benefit from the status and ego boost just like men who aspire to leadership roles. The difference is when a person doesn't aspire from that, then they won't get a boost from those positions, and that can be either men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 06:12 PM
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I will tell him because he is an understanding guy. I don't think he is entitled to know or I shouldn't feel obligated but I will tell him anyway, I don't fear any repercussions from him. We communicate well. If I felt an obligation to always have a solid and acceptable reason beyond "meh not feeling it, I am so tired, sick, etc" for fear of being pestered or made to feel like shit, I would not be in the relationship. Not only that, I try to be cognizant of the reasons for my own mental and emot…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 06:01 PM
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Yeah I suppose you can only find out so much from typed out conversations. Anyway, take care!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 09:30 PM
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I see. What do you think about men who are depressed, lonely or insecure and complain about that state of affairs or have varying opinions about the reasons for their situation and don't always blame themselves? It depends I suppose. I certainly have helped depressed men through some dark times and the thing with depression is that there isn't a simple solution but rather a lot of steps one needs to do to progress but it is by no means easy. I don't think they should blame themselves but at the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 09:05 PM
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Do you think that all people who are ostracized by society deserve to be ostracized, if they are not a group responsible for some kind of harmful actions to others? Definitely not. If their behavior isn't harmful, then live and let live! I believe this truly. Do you think that a lot of people who get ostracized for being "cringeworthy" or socially inept for example and get mocked and berated and forced to apologize for being who they are to the people who torment them, deserve it? Nope! I lived …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 08:36 PM
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I hope it all works out for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 08:16 PM
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Oh racism. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 07:59 PM
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That is a start I suppose! Now, how do you plan to get money? I assume from building up a skill you have? "Getting money" isn't exactly a value, it is an end goal. How will you get there?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 07:51 PM
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I don't like reality TV. I don't watch any network TV, actually. Lately America seems extremely anti-intellectual and that is disappointing. I used to think most people were egalitarian but I am starting to think that isn't the case. I am not the type of person to get into something because everyone is doing it, but I am also not the type of person to think everyone is conformist sheeple because they might like a thing I don't like. Because of that, I am having a hard time thinking of a thing I …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 07:49 PM
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If you grow up in one and it is all you are educated on and it is all your friends are educated on, it doesn't feel fringe in any way. It wasn't till I was out when I could truly see how backwards it really was. Before, all I had was the feeling that something wasn't right that it discouraged education, discouraged seeking knowledge, and encouraged strict adherence to dogma backed by fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 07:26 PM
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What does that have to do with steam trains?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 06:02 PM
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What if you found value in other things that you could accomplish? What aspirations do you have? It seems like since you put so much power into sex, it is consuming you. I would start with figuring that out then work from there. Otherwise I don't think you'll ever be anything but a ball of quivering and useless anger?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 06:01 PM
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I hate it when that happens (thankfully not often) it tends to throw off the rest of the week, or so it feels. I hope you get the rest you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 05:51 PM
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How are you awake? You must be so fucking exhausted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 05:35 PM
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You are weaker than me. Physically, maybe. You are probably less intelligent than me. That is possible but I am not getting an impression from this post the qualities that intelligent people tend do posses. You are less loyal than me. Is that even a gender thing? I mean, I have sometimes been loyal to a fault... You are incapable of empathy. I thought women were the more empathetic ones? I don't feel like that is fair but at the same time, I don't think this post is showing your empathetic side …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 05:32 PM
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I wouldn't accept that with my girlfriends or my boyfriends. Being that emotional all the time is frustrating, unpredictable, exhausting, and a complete downer. That scenario is extreme and goes beyond emotional vulnerability to coming off as unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 07:28 PM
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I wouldn't say they are given leeway, rather they are living up to their stereotype. Emotions are seen as weak, women are seen as weak, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/15 07:17 PM
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Interesting question. I am bisexual and while I am attracted to both men and women, I find women to be more beautiful. The more women friends I get, the more I treasure having women friends. I am friends with guys too though, and I value their friendship as well. I find my boyfriend extremely sexy though, I am very attracted to him, certain parts of his certainly get me going. He is also funny as fuck, we make each other laugh so much, we have a similar sense of humor and a similar outlook on li…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:19 PM
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Should they have kids? Why or why not? Who should be the decider and why? No, they don't seem like they are on the same path or in a healthy relationship at all. Was OP justified to throw out her pills? Was it an "alpha" thing to do? Was her response of refusing sex until an IUD is inserted a fair response to that? Her response to refusing to have sex is because she had no way to control for pregnancy, this is a very normal and understandable response! Him throwing away her birth control is mani…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/15 04:12 PM
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He is pretty great :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 01:50 AM
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How do you manage shared property? We both make really good salaries in addition to projects together that make money. We basically split bills in a way that makes it somewhat equal. We don't think much about it. For instance the last vacation we took, I bought the plain tickets and he paid for the hotels. He makes a bit more than I, but I do well myself so I have never had trouble keeping up. We rent, he leases his vehicle, a lot of the big purchases have been purchased by one person or the oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:35 PM
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I can't think of any of my LTR's that have asked me what my N count is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 07:24 PM
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If he initiated it because she was a terrible wife, why is blame on him for initiating? That is what I don't understand about the "who initiated" argument. We don't know WHY it was initiated. The person initiating the divorce could be for a good reason, it doesn't make them the cause of the divorce. The cause of the divorce and the initiator are two separate things. Is it usually the cheater who files for divorce? No it is usually the one cheated on. Of course we have no idea what happened here.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 05:49 PM
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I don't see the issue with this at all when her ex husband is getting primary custody. Why wouldn't she pay child support? Is it "divorce rape"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 05:13 PM
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We will live in the city and our employment would make us middle class affording us a servant or two. No child care, as I can not have children. My husbands parents are a doctor and lawyer, and he is highly skilled and had a good upbringing. My parents are industrious and my father was military and then worked in government. My upbringing would have been decent as well. My husband most likely would have also died in his 30s of alcoholism. It would have been a very enjoyable but short run.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:56 PM
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I would become a graphic artist for an advertising agency in Philidelphia or New York. It is close to what I do now except print, and it aligns with my interests and talent. I most likely would have gotten married to a similarly professional man with the same values and interests. I would die in my 30s of cervical cancer most likely, without the treatments we have today.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 03:26 PM
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alright. Have a good day!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 05:44 PM
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Sorry, it is a coincidence. So with your recent dates, did you offer to pay for the meals? Did they offer? What was the interaction like?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 05:41 PM
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I am not? Did you have a bad date recently?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 05:24 PM
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The stories were about dates and examples of men or women paying for things... I am telling you this woman pays for things. So, I don't know what else to tell you? I don't think that the one who pays for a date should be based on gender. So I agree with you. There is no justification for the expectation of one gender always paying for the other on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 05:10 PM
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Not for me or anyone in my social circle. I ask friends out because I like to try new bars and restaurants. I always offer to pay. All my friends are similarly upper-middle class with similar interests, this is in no way unusual. If I am asked on a date, I will always offer to split the check (or even pay for the entire thing if I am the one that suggested the place). The recent dates I went on (before my long-term relationship), one time I offered to pay because I suggested the place, he got ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 05:01 PM
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Whoever does the asking should expect to pay. If I am asked out, I STILL offer to split the check anyway. If I ask someone out, I will pay and I will not let them split the check. Everyone I know in my social circle has a very similar rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:37 PM
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I wish I could shake some sense into my sad teenage self but thankfully I eventually figured it out as we all seem to. Well, most of us anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 04:22 PM
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High school isn't the real world. Ya I wasn't popular in high school either and it sucks but you will laugh at how silly and stupid it all was when you are older. Trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 03:08 PM
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Yes, I would say that you need loyalty if providing is an important quality, otherwise it is just bad long term strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 09:58 PM
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This whole concept of making a choice together, while sounding sweet and cute and magical, isn't practical and kinda proves my theory that women aren't as logical as men. It is a lot less logical to defer to someone based on gender instead of based on their experience or expertise on a matter, don't you think? There isn't an odd number of people in a relationship. What if we're at a standstill? Do we play a game of rock,paper, scissors to decide? That creates more resentment than if we agree tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 09:01 PM
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Without loyalty, that sense of stability is gone. I mean, how long would it last if your partner would be fine replacing you after a while? What is the point of valuing a provider who might rather provide for someone else at the flip of a switch?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 07:41 PM
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What makes you high value though?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/15 07:37 PM
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I think my boyfriend would qualify as alpha? He is financially successful, extremely confident (a large part of his work depends on that), well respected in the community, attractive, was even married to Miss Maryland (god damn she is attractive like wtf) for a time, extroverted, has a commanding presence, is hilarious, liked by everyone. We can not go anywhere without running into friends and people who love him or who come up to him and "just have to say hi to this guy they keep hearing about"…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 05:51 PM
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I feel like I didn't really know who I was until 26. 21 is just so young. And if the perfect man was also 21? Chances are he was still coming into his own as well. We would have a healthier relationship if we get together later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 05:14 PM
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Ok? It is a nice thing though? If it was your girlfriend buying things for you, it wouldn't add anything to your relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/15 04:24 PM
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Buying a tie might be a suggestion that is useful though. There are plenty of ways to make a similar list that would actually be more inclusive and probably more useful to more people that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 05:30 PM
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The gossip is most likely true but it isn't always verified, at least first hand. If a very dependable and honest acquaintance of mine tells me some background information on someone, I will trust that it is true information and my dealings with that person will be limited or cautious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 05:26 PM
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I guess I am just explaining how I took it, or people like me. I see where you are coming from, I mean, like I based my comments on my experiences, you are basing it on your experiences. I think both are certainly valid. I absolutely believe you that you really think so, but the thing is: do you know how often I as a guy was in some way exposed to one-sided expectations directed at me when growing up? I'll tell you: lists like the one you just complained about, just with the genders switched? Pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 05:23 PM
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And that is certainly a possibility. I am really coming at it from my angle. If others don't want to put work into their relationships, I can't see them lasting long or being happy for anyone. It is too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 05:19 PM
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Except I mean that relationships are up to both people to make it work. Because I dissagree that it should be entirely on the women means I believe it should be entirely on the man? Sorry that is the wrong assumption to make. The whole premise of your argument is based on a false assumption. My boyfriend and I both bring so much more to a relationship that go beyond gender-based obligations and stereotypes. We do nice things for each other because we care about each other. He isn't doing three l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 12:46 AM
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Open minded how? Problem with RP is Frame is basically "man up and shut up". I'm applying No More Mr Nice Guy here, in that it's "I am a human being too, if you can't deal with the fact I need help and see me as less for it then fuck you". I didn't say it like that though. And I think that is reasonable. It is something I personally struggle with, I lack the self confidence and voice I need to get further ahead and it took a lot to recognize it was holding me back and it took a lot to actively w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 08:08 PM
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I don't quite get the outrage but with even a little reading between the lines, there is a smidge of implication. There is nuance on both side though and keeping that in mind, those who are "outraged" are clearly not outraged because they were told they need to do nice things for their partner, it is because there is an implication that these are obligations based on gender. Of COURSE we should all be doing nice things for the person in our lives that make us happy. Some of these tips are cute, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:57 PM
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You might not interpret it as gossip, and in fact, it might be less "petty" but I will let you in on a little secret...powerful successful men absolutely "gossip" as it is important to do so in business. It is very important to know who you get into business relationships with when money and reputation are at stake. As someone who is privy to this type of thing, ya, successful people gossip. Reputation is extremely important, no one wants to get in deep with a sleazy and unreliable person that c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:50 PM
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These tips are overall eye-roll-inducing. Some of them are silly, some of them are nice things, some of them sometimes don't even apply to my relationship but its a generalization. The problem lies in the implication of this list. That women are the caretakers of the relationship and the caretakers of their manbabies. If the sole responsibility of the relationship was on my shoulders based on my vagina-having-status, we would be in shambles. All these little tips are great, they don't have to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:45 PM
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please clarify, yeah I'm neurotic as fuck, that's how GAD works. I would actually like to take a test to see how much so, in fact I've got it somewhere and I was markedly above average for dysfunction in everything like Obsessive, Schizotypal, Neurotic, Paranoid etc. it just wasn't good huh When a friend of mine is ill, physically or mentally, I encourage them to seek the help and therapy they need, whatever that may be. It is when it is beyond that, they are essentially just negative people thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:26 PM
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Despite fears about breaking Frame and showing neediness, I received quite a lot of support. Jesus you must be exhausted. No wonder you are having sleep issues. None of my immediate female friends??? FFs were then seen posting elsewhere on FB, including a message group that I was part of What can I conclude from this? I am sure you will find a way to blame everyone else for why women find you exhausting. Not that people might not have even seen your post. Not everyone stalks their FB friends to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/15 06:02 PM
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You are very welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:48 PM
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Ok I will bite... This is based off the general impression of RP thinking. That women are coddled, that we are gold-diggers, that we are lazy, that we are not capable of abstract thought, and that relationships based on equal partnerships are not possible. Oh and that we go for "Chad Thundercock" or something. First off, I am 32, not fat, not ugly, not an HB10 either. I take good care of my health. I look younger than most men and women I went to school with. I live in a small city with a good c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:27 PM
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Truck nuts is what she is talking about and ya, it is definitely a thing in the US, especially in the south.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 12:35 PM
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Female death rate was higher though. If you look back longer than 100 years ago, the average life expectancy was higher for men than it was for women (because birth).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 09:44 PM
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I think it is great that he knows what he wants and is going for it and won't settle. I think however, it was not necessary and also rude to give her specific details about what exactly he found unattractive about her. I have let dudes down nicely for various reasons, I felt one guy was rather dim, another guy kept flexing his pectoral muscles and talking about all his properties during a date, another guy I just was not in any way attracted to his face, another guy his body. I would just say "I…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 05:20 PM
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How did you come to that conclusion from what I said? I was trying to say that money isn't a deciding factor for me. I could sort of understand if I was dirt poor and living in squalor and wanted the easy way out of that situation... The fact that I am doing ok myself means I do not have to find a man to rely on for his money, whether it was millions or 100K. I was making a joke about his cock because I know you guys tend to be convinced that if isn't money that attracts a women it must be becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 04:36 PM
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The vast majority of people still marry within their socio-economic level.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 04:29 PM
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Well for me, if 500K or 1M or 3M isn't enough then 100K wouldn't be enough to sway me. That is based only on my personal experience though. Having a comfortable lifestyle is something I can control for myself, so it makes no impact on who I choose as my partner. So I guess I would say a broke yet very attractive man is more my style.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 10:05 PM
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It isn't though, since two-income households are the most common.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 10:03 PM
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100K isn't a lot to make a difference but lets assume someone actually rich. I have dated rich men, some really hot. I did not persue a relationship with them because they had rotten personalities, I wasn't attracted, or something wasn't there. I have dated guys who also made a lot less than me and tried to make it work because their income obviously made no difference to me. It helps that I make an income that is at a level for me to be comfortable enough that I never felt I needed to trick a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 10:00 PM
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Ok, sorry, let me explain. Praxeology is the deductive study of human action based on the notion that humans engage in purposeful behavior, as opposed to reflexive behavior like sneezing and inanimate behavior. Based on that definition, how does that work with the idea that TRPers say that our actions are innate and instinct and we have no control over our instincts? "Lizard brain" is used a bunch too. I wasn't disagreeing with you, just inquiring further to understand what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 09:49 PM
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Trp is not narrow minded. We observe reality in its current state. Do you? How do you know? What makes you so sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 09:45 PM
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You're applying a bias of your own, Confirmation Bias. You've experienced something in your life and you're projecting that onto us, and looking for any part that validates it, while discarding the parts that don't. I see parallels to my lived experiences, yes. I am willing to admit that confirmation bias will come into play. After all, you are all individuals with varying levels of faith RP philosophy and a lot of you can take what you need from it and leave the rest. Cults use terms like "we a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 09:44 PM
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I see what you mean, unlike a strict religion, you can take from it what you need, disregard the rest. I (and, I would propose, many men like me) don't have "supportive community who loves" me as a primary goal that RP fulfills. Acceptance may have been a better word. Or, a community of people like you who seemingly "get it". Same idea though. My goal is to experience more success in my sex/love/relationship life. I appreciate RP for helping contribute to that success, but being a "RP man" just …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 09:18 PM
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Interesting. I feel like a lot of TRPers say that our actions are innate and instinct and we have no control over our instincts? "Lizard brain" is used a bunch too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 07:47 PM
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Since most of my friends own their own businesses or do large amounts of commissioned work, we have a tendency to "keep it in the community" because it only benefits all of us. That being said, we are good about recognizing talent outside of our circle and then bringing them in the circle so we basically have surrounded ourselves with talented (and ethical) people by design. I have a lot of practice negotiating work and services in a way that is fair and fosters a thriving community and personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 04:11 PM
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I would also want my friend to assess why they are selling the same goods cheaper. If they have exceptional service and return policy over the other guys and the cost makes sense, that is good. I would be concerned if my friend had jacked up prices and I would be concerned about his business overall. It is bad business to rely on your friends buying from you because they feel obligated to support your business when smarter customers are going to go to that other place... That being said, if I am…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 03:50 PM
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It depends on your goals. Some guys want a family, to have children, to be married...some do not. Same with women. Some women want a family and children, some do not. And a bunch of people fall somewhere in between. Being good LTR material in relation to having high SMV is entirely up to what your own goals are. I hear often that women usually would prefer long term relationships over sex. I believe this is false. Yes. It depends on the woman. Also, one might start out preferring sex over LTRs b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 03:39 PM
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It would make sense to hate the people he is describing but he is not describing women nor any large groups. I do not know any large gender or race group that his description even comes close to describing. So, to apply that description to women is irrational and simply not based in reality. To fear a group of people who are sexist, unsympathetic and disloyal would not be irrational at all. A group like that would not be a part of a civil society and couple potentially be dangerous to a communit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 03:22 PM
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If you have no desire to, that is fine too. I think that if you learn to communicate as well as read people (and that comes with experience so there is risk) then the risk becomes less and less. I assume most of us got burned a lot early on. At some point I thought about doing the "don't trust anyone ever!" thing but its a lonely way to live too but ya, it hurts a hell of a lot less. For me, it wasn't worth it. I learned to be more reserved with my trust, to read the signs when not to trust some…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 03:13 PM
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I have been through so much shit from dudes in the dating scene in my early to mid 20s and for a while I was pretty resentful. I wondered if all men were cheaters and liars? Honestly, the male friends I did have were what kept me grounded. The loving relationships that my friends had with their mates showed me that it was possible. The loving marriage my parents had modeled good relationship skills as well. Once I got over myself and could see what I was also doing wrong in relationships (even p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 02:58 PM
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I don't understand how people truly believe that another entire large group of people do not bring anything else to the table? Are the people that have these opinions only capable of thinking with their lizard brains? I find the thinking put forth by the quote in the OP to be incredibly irrational. It doesn't take into account the reality for a lot of people who have truly deep and fulfilling friendships and relationships. None of this reflects in any way, any of the people I am around. A lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 02:43 PM
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Hah, thanks :) Honestly I normally don't care about internet points but it sort of bugged me today!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 06:50 PM
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What you've alluded to and from what I've seen at TBP would signify that you believe TRP men are cheating, into unintelligent women, and are misogynistic. I have seen cheating be condoned but I would not say that applies for all TRP. I have, however, see dishonesty encouraged and justified by the idea that it "levels the playing field". I don't like dishonesty on either partners side. I would argue that TRP men attract and are attracted to women with certain traits, and those are traits that TRP…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 03:07 PM
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I meant both but I can see what you mean with your last sentence. We might disagree on this but I do think that some of those "redpill" ideas that work are not truly redpill but rather conventional wisdom, but it is hard to say either way because as far as I know, the only written doctrine to reference is TRP sidebar. Anyway, I appreciate having had this conversation with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 02:23 PM
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Thanks! Also my conversations with you are always productive and civil, even if we disagree, and I wanted to tell you that I appreciate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 02:20 PM
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Only because a lot of child-based things tend to be easier to do in the community, school, legal system, hospitals, etc., when the couple is married. To be honest, I haven't thought much more about it than that because I never thought about having children. If I had ever gotten to that point, my view would be much more thought out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/15 02:19 PM
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Agreed on this. And marriage doesn't make much difference at business related galas if people view you as a committed, stable relationship especially when both of you are successful in your own careers. My only concern would be how to navigate things like death and sickness. My boyfriend and I earn good salaries and have independently built up our own lifestyles that happen to have meshed perfect when we came together. But....what if he gets sick or dies? His family could easily cut me out from …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 10:21 PM
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That sounds like holding frame wasn't internalized. I can understand why you would think Pretty much. I don't think a lot of the guys who post field reports are helping the brand or working to accurately define "holding frame" if that is in fact not accurate. That is why I separate it from the idea of "fake it till you make it" and combine it with being "cool as a cucumber." Tactics which I will employ myself sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 10:11 PM
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Cool your jets dude. None of what you said is a reasonable interpretation of what I said nor a reasonable response. There are two other redpillers in this thread who are doing a much better job. Read the conversations I am having with them, that might help.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 10:06 PM
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If I were to base redpill ideas on the sidebar and the front page of TRP, I would say that I definitely disagree with RP ideas. I have noticed that in PPD, red pillers seem to water-down those ideas to make them seem more palatable. Self improvement is good. I don't think RP actually believes in self improvement. They encourage putting down groups of people in order to build themselves up. I do not believe women are hypergamous children. I don't even believe that women are less reasonable than m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 10:02 PM
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The idea, at least how I approach it, is not to hide my weaknesses and faults. The idea is to work on and change what you can and be confident in what you cannot and own them. And THAT is cool. It is a lifelong journey but at least it get easier... Like you, I was never very extroverted, however, I've been putting myself in those situations and have learned to adapt pretty well. However there are still times I want to be alone or in a small group and I've learned to be confident in what I want a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 09:49 PM
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Ok, so my boyfriend is "naturally handsome" and incredibly confident, extroverted, the most interesting man in the room etc type. When I explained the term "holding frame", he laughed so hard and said that was the most pathetic thing he has heard. I agree. "Hold frame" when used in your field reports are laughably pathetic and it always sounds like the person using it is bawling inside, paranoid that those around him will reveal him or cause him to reveal himself . I know you guys really want it…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 09:41 PM
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I agree that there are levels of manipulation and tactics but I think TRP encourages manipulation that goes too far. "Be your best self" is a tactic. I think it is good. "Be someone else" and "Lie to them and make them believe your intentions are completely different" is more along the lines of what I am talking about. Repeating an example from my other comment, hyping yourself up to remain cool and social in an event where you are exhausted and anxious inside is good for you. There are degrees …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 09:25 PM
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When it comes to confidence, "fake it till you make it" is actually decent advice. I do the same thing. I am socially awkward and anxious. I have to be a very social person though and I regularly work through my anxiety, celebrate my triumphs, and learn from my mistakes. My incredibly extroverted, sociable boyfriend knows exactly who I am though. I never made him believe I am anything but awkward*. He finds it endearing and he loves that about me, he also helps me through those situations where …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 09:18 PM
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I really don't see this as true. The quality of men I date now in my early 30s are leagues above who I dated in my early 20s. Every relationship I was in was a learning experience, bad or good. At this point, I know what I want and put up with less shit. The men I date put up with less shit. I am a better quality partner and now only date quality partners. I am in an absolutely wonderful and fulfilling long term relationship with an awesome dude and we are somewhat of a power couple. Most Americ…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 09:05 PM
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What happens when those amazing/successful/accomplished women find out that your tactics are a facade though? If you're not looking for long term, then I see how that strategy works on a purely numbers basis. That makes sense. Long term, however, why would you want to date a women who is tricked and/or content with your facade? Does that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 08:08 PM
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Strong, confident men do not need redpill tactics. Tactics will work on the women that are easily tricked by weak men. If you need those tactics, thats fine, its you're prerogative. You get back what you put out though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 08:06 PM
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Traditionally valued might be your thing, I will give you that. Same with home-keeper, as some people are into that and that is cool although not my thing. Those are not "red pill" though, those tend to be considered conservative values. Along with that comes financially supporting the partner staying home and that is where red pill tends not to care about, generally. Staying monogamous as well. Supportive and loyal are not redpill traits. At least not in both directions. They seem to require it…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 08:04 PM
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If those tactics improve the relationship for both people, I think that is a good thing. I would also be hesitant to think that those tactics are "red pill". I mean, red pillers seem to think that "self improvement" is a red pill thing. I would argue that generally it is not. My understanding is that red pill is mainly for improving the mans lot at the detriment to long-term relationships and at the detriment of the partner. I get that, it is a sexual strategy for men. I wouldn't want to be in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 03:57 PM
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Red Pill tactics work on some women. Those are the only women you will get. Think about the type of women that red pill tactics work on. Does that work for you? If yes, continue on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/15 12:35 AM
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I don't get it either. Everything you said is spot on. I've never heard th opposite said in BP, only in RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/15 10:21 PM
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Maybe I didn't find the comment but the only one that references weight really doesn't have anything to do with my response here? And can you address other things in my comment perhaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 08:42 PM
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I don't know where you live so I couldn't tell ya! But I am a woman and I exist in real life!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 08:40 PM
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Hmm, I don't think I do this. I tend to not ask anyone out though, so ya, guy or girl will most likely have to make the first move because I am shy. That isn't true in all cases but either way I generally like to be friends with them a little before moving forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 07:30 PM
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I agree. Shaming a guy because he is a virgin is bullying and enforces gender roles. I am sure there are situations where there is nuance or it is parody or used to make a point but I can't think of any off the top of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 07:06 PM
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Both situations rely entirely on the people involved though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 07:03 PM
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I dunnooo...I have been in two serious relationships with men who made significantly less. Man1 was sporadically employed...he was a bum though, after supporting him a bunch and getting nothing back, I broke it off. Man2 made 1/5 my salary but he contributed to the relationship in other ways, he was great. We eventually broke up because our lives went in other directions. So it wasn't the money that mattered but what ELSE you can contribute. If you are a bum, have zero money, and a selfish jerk,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 06:59 PM
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I don't think anyone should increase their income prospects to get a date or get married. I think they should increase their income prospects for them if that's what they find fulfilling and if that makes sense for their goals? Live within your means but if you want to live with more, increase your means. Considering tha majority of American women are fat, Aren't the majority of American men also fat? And if you want to date skinny women, you gotta put effort into your health as well. That goes …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/15 06:56 PM
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This rant is next-level pathetic hilariousness. Makeup actually tricks you into sleeping with uggos? Really? You can't tell? Beautiful men get with beautiful women. It sounds like you are just not at their level but are clawing for something to bring them down to your level. Maybe work on the self-improvement thing? Emphasis on the word "self".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 06:17 PM
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Maybe it's because the men I know are content with their lives, have no problem getting casual sex, are attractive and have standards? Having sexual thoughts is different. Yes, we all have sexual thoughts and yes, I even have them about all my attractive friends, that doesn't mean I am going to have sex with them. And maybe they would have sex with me given the opportunity but not all of them would because of theirs own reasons. Would you have sex with a woman who came up and asked you for sex b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 02:50 PM
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I did not actually. In fact, I wasn't sure I even wanted to go out on that first date with him. I was attracted to him and he seemed interesting, but I wasn't looking for anything and my life was going really well I didn't want to complicate it. The more I thought about that, the more I thought that was silly. I mean, am I supposed to wait to date when I'm unhappy and my life is crap, for a dude to fix me? No way. I decided to give him a chance and we ended up hitting it off really well. The fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 02:41 PM
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I hold my man to the same standards I hold myself to. I can't answer the question if he is better than me, it's a vague question to answer. In some areas, yes, but in some areas I am better. We complement each other quite nicely. We're both attractive and have done well in our careers and social lives before coming together to form an awesome partnership. And yes, anyone can get laid if they lower their standards enough if they just want to get laid. Sure, if you are an ugly dude you might have …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/15 11:35 AM
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And any guy can find someone that would fuck him. Anyone can find anyone to fuck them if they lower their standards enough. Just...something about her that would make other people think she's unattractive but to him it makes her 10x sexier. How does this only go one-way? I have never dated "perfect" men. My boyfriend isn't the most fit (even though I work out like crazy) and in fact isn't the most physically attractive man I have dated but he is very attractive and sexy as fuck. Foibles. Physica…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 09:29 PM
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A guy will fuck just about anything if he's able. Only guys who are seriously desperate. I know mostly really great attractive men...they do not fuck "just about anything" even if they are only looking for casual sex. Have some standards man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 08:48 PM
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Guys that are just going to prostitutes are not helping their cause if they want to eventually settle down with a nice girl (if they are not...well then it doesn't really matter but OP is talking about LTRs). But hey, if that's their bag...it is just not attractive and I personally wouldn't go for that. In LTRs, yeah, even women have to have decent personalities or the relationship isn't going to last long at all. My sister is probably a good example of being really pretty yet bat-shit-crazy. Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 08:42 PM
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Devalues the importance of pussy in a man's mind. If he can just pay for it and doesn't have to learn the usual "tricks" that men learn to get women (being funny, charistmatic, intelligent, etc) so it takes away a bit of their power. I think that actually devalues them, not pussy. So the guy never learned to be charasmatic or funny or intelligent? Why would a woman want to be with an uncharismatic, unfunny and unintelligent dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/15 05:39 PM
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Wasn't really my college experience but that's fine, it certainly was the college experience for some. It is such a small time frame when it comes to the real world. Glad it gets over quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 06:34 PM
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/r/s0und0fyell0w, this is basically my answer as well and I think /r/Basura_de_la_Tierra is doing a fine job discussing this with you. It is much easier to point that out for me than it is to go down the OP point by point and say basically the same thing that /r/Basura_de_la_Tierra is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 06:13 PM
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None of this resonates with me nor applies to anyone associate with. Who is your demographic? For one thing, most couples I know are both working, one isn't using the other for anything. Even some couples I know where the guy is a stay-at-home parents or the primary parent and the mom has a high-powered job. I wouldn't say either is using each other in that case as they both are bringing value to their family. So I just want to know who your assumptions actually apply to?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/15 05:20 PM
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You can't admit that an employee is at a bigger disadvantage when it comes to finding new employment versus the owner finding a new employee?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/15 07:41 PM
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I am saying that the owner in the owner/employee dynamic isn't replaceable (unless he sells the farm but then the employees employment becomes shaky). In that dynamic, ya the owner of a farm is more important than one of his/her employees, even a valuable employee.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 08:50 PM
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Is one more capable than the other? Wouldn't that bring more value?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 08:44 PM
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That is another debate altogether. I will say that the responsibilities that made men "disposable" (in different ways than what made women disposable back when the mortality rate for labor and pregnancy made it a huge risk) are things that women have been fighting for and many stepping up to the plate. My boyfriend isn't going off to war any time soon and we both pull our weight in our careers, neither of us are disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 08:43 PM
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So, in my relationship, we do both have final word in decisions that affect the both of us. Three things can happen...one: we agree and see eye-to-eye (which happens 80% of the time, we are highly compatible in our views, goals and future), two: we talk it over, explain our own perspectives, we have a tendency to then base the decision on who has the most experience in whatever field the decision covers, this is more likely the case because talking it over and explaining our perspectives tend to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 06:03 PM
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Unless you were the owner, you were replaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 04:45 PM
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It is definitely not about gender. Some people just age better and take care of themselves and have the ability to get a procedure or two and some people have good genetics. Some people do not. That's it. The men telling themselves otherwise are setting themselves up for a load of hurt when their schadenfreude doesn't come to fruition for some women (while age is just as possible to take its toll on the redpiller and his peers).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/15 06:14 PM
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Yep. There it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 07:20 PM
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That is an accurate description for me yet I am still here :/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/15 06:52 PM
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The great thing is that we have a bit of control over our social circles to a degree. If you are finding that "all women are whores" (just an example, nothing you have said or anything) then it is important to know that no, all women are probably not whores, but perhaps, you (universal you) tend to attract a bunch of whores. Then it is time to change your social circle up a little. Work towards creating your environment a little. Especially since humans are interesting and different and out ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 08:07 PM
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I will also say that more women have helped me pack and move than men. Unless I was hiring men of course. That seems to be a bid deal...who helps you move, those are your true friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 07:36 PM
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Wow, thank you for the detailed response. I didn't expect someone to actually answer the bullet list point by point. You are very welcome! I try to avoid that and instead look at the people I know. That's why I came up with the question in the first place. I want people to really look at the people around them. Its a very human thing to do. Would you consider yourself a "typical woman"? I do not consider myself special. Maybe I just know some awesome women. If you noticed, I mentioned my mom a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 07:31 PM
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had problems with your computer. I am the fixer of computer hardware in my relationship (I am a woman btw) but next I would call my friend who is a woman and is my go-to person, on top of that she is an amazing programmer and have and will use her for all my development needs. My family members have called me up on things like buying and installing computer upgrades. I don't do this as a job though. I am just good at things like this to a degree. wanted to buy a new bike, camera or any other exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 05:49 PM
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Sex is like pizza, the next day, just pop it in the oven for a couple minutes and have it for breakfast!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/15 05:24 PM
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That I don't have faith in. It's a he-said-she-said thing and those tend to not go too well...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 02:21 PM
1

Totally. My mother and really a lot of my friends look amazing at the age they are compared to their peers. It's amazing the difference some working out and eating healthy can make...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:01 PM
1

He could though. You know he can. Unless there is some law that restricts him from doing so that I am not aware of?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 07:00 PM
1

If I were to act out this fantasy, it is with someone I trust, my boyfriend most likely, and there is a safe word. Could I try to get him charged with rape? I guess any time we have sex, either of us could decide after to try and press charges. This has nothing to do with playing out a fantasy though, anyone could do that at any time. So, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 10:49 PM
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I wonder why I got downvoted for agreeing with you...odd. Anyway yeah, in the 30s everyone seems to have grown out of the party stage and have progressed enough in their career on top of knowing themselves better, having gained confidence in what they do, as well as having a better idea of what they want (and don't want) out of a relationship. Honestly, I think the 30s are the best decade for everyone!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 10:23 PM
1

ahh, yeah. You are correct. Certainly seems so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 07:47 PM
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A lot of people have a baby face into their early 20s. Heck, I had a baby face till I was 25/26. My face actually looks a lot better now in my early 30s because it has thinned out. Teens look like children to me. I honestly think you are in the minority about how teens look.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 05:21 PM
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:) Pretty much!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 04:50 PM
2

You're correct. My dreams are not typical. I never actually dream of things I am wishing for unless I am lucid dreaming and able to control the dream to an extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 03:56 PM
2

Don't people usually get fatter as they get older? The ones that don't stay in shape, that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 03:51 PM
2

Aren't the healthiest times to give birth for a woman are in her mid-20s? So that wouldn't make sense that their peak is below that time-frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 03:50 PM
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The disparity in average age of marriage is 2 years. Even in the wikipedia link, the differences in ages are at most 5 years with the exceptions of the outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 03:46 PM
1

They seem to have slightly more options, according to stats. Not really to a large degree at all though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 03:38 PM
3

The majority of my dreams are actually apocalyptic and post-apocalyptic scenarios actually. Ranging from sort of fun or funny adventure (once, during a zombie apocalypse I was pregnant with 6 babies, aborted 3 to "lighten the load" and I am killing zombies with my sword in one hand, and trying to protect my dog holding her in my other arm) to hopeless depressing ones that effect me for days after (the entire world dying of a disease and I just go home to be with family and die with them). I have…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 03:34 PM
1

You are probably right about hatred being too strong of a word. Annoyance however is too far in the other direction. Strong dislike is probably what I normally see from TRP, at the very least, dislike. Frustration would describe the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 03:25 PM
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So I wish to be chased by dinosaurs and nazis?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 07:34 PM
2

You can still hate women yet want to have sex with them. You understand that, right? That just because you want to have sex with women, does not mean you do not hate them? In fact, that would make one even MORE frustrated, still wanting to have sex with women when you also hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 04:56 PM
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More men are being stay at home dads than ever before though. Numbers are growing. And I know a bunch. On top of the fact that the economy sucks, the middle class needs to have two income-earners in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 07:27 PM
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2 > obviously I gotta be attracted to them physically. 1 > personality is huge to me. Interesting, fun, social, happy. 3 > I like ambition and passion but money itself isn't important. I make decent money and it would be nice for them to be able to keep up but as long as they are not a bum.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 01:29 PM
1

It's just like the "Women won't date me because I am so nice" and instead of looking inward, they have to blame the other group for not liking them. So much easier to blame everyone else instead of like, improving yourself. Yes, these people exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 10:06 PM
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A healthy relationship isn't a battle. It is two people who are on the same side, who have each others backs, who are a partnership working together to make a relationship beneficial and awesome to the both of them. Conflicts can arise but it depends on how they handle it which matters. They hear each other out and empathize with one another. They both want each other physically, and are each others best friend. They actually enjoy each other and love to be around one another. They have fun! Nei…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 05:01 PM
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This adds nothing to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/15 10:19 PM
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If you are ugly, you probably end up with someone who is ugly. Maybe you find something else to focus on...maybe they are really funny or have the same taste in movies. I mean, you see it all the time, an ugly person holding hands with a similarly ugly person. Maybe they aren't your type but they managed to be someones type.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:46 PM
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I think this is somewhat the case in my current relationship but it doesn't mean its the case in other peoples relationships, sometimes the opposite is true and then a lot of the times it flip-flops. So I don't think it really adheres to a gender divide. I know for my relationship, it was good for the both of us to keep this in mind and be empathetic to the other person (and it goes both ways). Our relationship is very amazing outside of sex but being responsive to what outside factors help get …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/15 04:39 PM
1

Ahh I see. Yeah you probably would not find Plated to be that useful. Except on Sundays but that doesn't really help.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 08:50 PM
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My house cleaner doesn't do my laundry, I am very particular. Other than that though.... I have found that thinking about dinner and shopping for groceries to make said dinner is rather time-consuming. We both work full time and have active social lives. I signed my boyfriend and I up for Plated. You should check it out. It basically sends you all the ingredients in the perfect amounts to cook the meal. Since my boyfriend and I both enjoy cooking, it just cuts out the shopping and thinking part …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/15 05:32 PM
1

Yes! My SO and I have a really awesome relationship and we genuinely care for each other and we are constantly working on our relationship because we have a great relationship and it is only getting better. And yeah, I am a feminist. And I am also feminine and wear dresses and destroy penises make dinner some nights (and he draws me a fucking bath if I am sick) and I also get pleasure from being sub in the bedroom but I also have a good career that I enjoy! I don't know where RP gets their ideas…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 09:20 PM
2

Having more kids means more functional relationship? I guess that depends on what your definition of "functional" is. Is having kids the function of a relationship? If so, then yes. To me, the health of a relationship is not dependent on having children. I mean, I would argue that healthier relationships are those with less children. Regardless, if the purpose of my relationship is not to have children, then it seems that a more equal relationship is going to be much more functional for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/15 08:13 PM
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My parents are still happy and married and are affectionate and truly enjoy each other (and even more so now that the kids are out of the house). My boyfriends parents are still married and happy and affectionate (although they are very old...not sure about the sex part). A lot of my friends are in happy marriages. A couple of them are divorced as well but these epic battles that gets talked about on reddit seem to be not the norm. Also the 50% divorce rate statistic is high due to the chronic d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 09:41 PM
1

Yeah, it definitely doesn't apply to me. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 07:28 PM
1

Huh. This seems totally wrong. digit ratio correlates with more alpha or masculine traits, such as: assertiveness in females, aggression in males, perceptions of 'dominance' and masculinity in a man's face, leadership, innovation, penis length, promiscuity for both sexes, and perceived 'butchness' in lesbians. I am not the best leader but I think I manage people well...I am also innovative in my thinking but a lot of that correlates with my profession. My penis is so small it is an innie. I am n…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/15 06:24 PM
1

Very much agree. And I am adding to the "I enjoy your comments" camp.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/15 06:23 PM
2

Yay!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 10:51 PM
0

It sounds like TRP might be a path to getting both partners to behave as this guy says they shouldn't. One partner behaving badly? Behave badly back! How does that become both partners behaving how they should?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 10:42 PM
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You guys are making huge assumptions in order to justify your biases. Why not take what he says at his word until proven otherwise? What is it about his 7 principles to make marriage work not make sense to you? And what is it that you disagree with in his "4 horsemen"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/15 10:39 PM
2

Hah! Totally! Also, todays music sucks! etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/15 09:48 PM
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"Where have all the good men gone?" is the same as "Where are all the good girls?" They are said by people who refuse to look inward at things they can improve in themselves. It is much easier to just blame everyone else sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 08:17 PM
2

I manage quite well actually! It doesn't seem like a greatly reduced pool at all, could be the area I am in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/15 03:20 PM
1

There's three of them??
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 08:04 PM
2

So what though? I find wrestling to be stupid but it is hugely popular with dudes. Those are dudes I wouldn't try to date though, and I don't believe all dudes are stupid like the ones who watch wrestling.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/15 08:02 PM
0

Why are vehicles with a stick-shift (metaphor for dicks) called "standard"? Because men are seen as default and therefore, stick-shifts are the patriarchy of cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 09:35 PM
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Women are more likely to invest in relationships though. And they are less likely to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/15 08:53 PM
2

You are welcome! And good luck in your personal growth!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 06:54 PM
5

Male spinsters don't bother me, they don't affect me. I do find it silly they congregate on the internet to talk about how much they don't need/want a woman, I just think "dude, get over it and go your own way already!" Or the ones that think that women will miss them or even care because they have chosen spinsterhood. People I know who are not into dating at all just don't make it into a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/15 06:39 PM
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I was thinking the same thing. I mean, I generally think when ever I read any PPD or TRP is "ya I must run in different circles". I really should stick to those circles too...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 08:20 PM
1

Describe your appearance. Who do you most resemble/How would you rate yourself from 1 - 10? (Use this scale[1] if you need a reference)? Now, and back when you lost your virginity? Hmm interesting chart, but I don't see anything better sooo... I would say according to that chart I am a 7. I was 16 when I lost my virginity and was an awkward teen with braces and bad hair, so maybe a 5. How old are you and how many partners have you had (LTRs, ONSs, and FWBs)? I am 32 years old. LTRs: 8. FWB: 10. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 08:03 PM
10

Congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 09:39 PM
2

Yes! And because I made my own, I could make it much stronger for much cheaper and also with ingredients that were completely natural. I wish I could sell it though. After having used it a bunch (in addition to giving it to friends to use), it seems like it helps a bit where there could be problems normally. ALSO it is just great lube, even if it didn't have cannabis in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 05:22 PM
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Affiliation: Blue Sex/Age: Female/32 Estimated # of all past sexual partners: I won't answer this one. Last 5 sexual encounters: (date & brief description of who and how you met sexual partner and method used to "close game") tuesday, my boyfriend, we were in bed talking, ready to go to bed, but I was hyper and being super chatty and I kid-you-not, we were talking about feminism. He said "my dick is hard just from talking with you" and sure enough... sunday, my boyfriend, he came home in the eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 04:11 PM
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I would say that it is because the women who end up with RPers (or any abusers) tend to have low self-esteem and self-respect. So they will most likely stick with their abuser because they feel they can not do any better. Those who are not with non-abusive guys are more likely to have decent self-esteem and self-worth so they feel confident to leave a relationship when the relationship isn't working out. On top of that, they probably won't become as co-dependent on their boyfriend so easily, unl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 03:15 PM
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That I believe. I mean, I am usually the less romantic one in my relationships with men. However, I always strive to be thoughtful. Another thing, women handle stress better. The death of a spouse is a highly stressful event. That really adds another layer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 02:26 PM
3

That is too bad, sorry :(
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/14 02:20 PM
3

Maybe not the people you choose to surround yourself with? But certainly the people I choose to surround myself with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 10:55 PM
3

A broken heart :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 06:34 PM
3

It certainly is easy to skew statistics but I think the studies and articles mentioned above outlined everything pretty clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 06:08 PM
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Yes. Very much so. Maybe not in politics or in the media, but it still exists in many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 05:23 PM
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Yep. My father would be lost and heartbroken if my mom dies first. And my dad is a manly man, its not like he is a sensitive mess. It is just a fact that my mom is his rock. She is the glue that keeps the family together. She is an extremely capable person who fixes stuff. My father might be the one who "gets shit done", my mom is the one you go to and rely on in an emergency. If my father died first, she would mourn the loss of her best friend but ultimately she would get her ducks in a row and…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 03:46 PM
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There are a few statistics that would support your claim. Married men live longer than unmarried men. Widowers are more likely to die shortly after the death of their wives (compared to widows who's husband has died). In fact, the mortality rate for widowers is increasing. We all need companionship but it seems like men need it a lot more. Mortality rates are 50% higher for unmarried women. Mortality rates are 250% higher for unmarried men. Divorce or marital separation more than doubles the ris…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/14 03:32 PM
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Well if that is how you feel there is nothing I can say to help you see otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/14 03:31 PM
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Well, the reasons people think women at colleges cry rape is because they don't want to be perceived as a slut, or they are cheating on their boyfriend. Those reasons don't apply in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 10:38 PM
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Why would a wife regret sex with her husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 10:31 PM
2

Forest fires is a really great analogy. You seem wise, do you contribute much to TRP? And if you do, how are your contributions received?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 03:38 PM
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One of my responses was used as a betabux/alphafux example because I mentioned that I was with my boyfriend because he is attractive and has a good personality (and not for money because I earn my own money, etc). That seemed to ruffle their feathers a little which is really confusing. What is it that redpillers generally want? What are they looking for? Or rather, what is it about a woman who is with a guy for his looks and personality make them upset? They seemed to want the old way which was …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 08:26 PM
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I personally want to marry my SO because I am a romantic. There are legal protections especially in sickness and death. I wouldn't benefit from a divorce so I would want to go into marriage confident it will last. My parents have a healthy, loving marriage and that's the example I grew up with. There are many reasons why many gay couples in my country have fought for marriage rights, there are obviously a lot of benefits to getting married. I think the relationship carries a certain legitimacy i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 04:24 PM
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It's all good. I don't require you to search for me. I will try to find it. Appreciate the info, thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 03:56 PM
1

Is there a thread where red/purple/blue pillers posted their results?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 02:50 PM
1

I am lucky in that I get paid decently for something I enjoy doing and something in the field I studied. Even still, not everyone enjoys raising children and would take a job where they get paid and get respect for their work over watching kids at home. And it isn't like raising kids is easy-peasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 02:49 PM
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And in all honesty, I can't say I have hung out with low-SMV people if I could accurately pinpoint what exactly that is. Only that the more stable the environment someone grows up in, the more stable they will be in their relationships and financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 10:08 PM
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Seriously. Over and over again. I don't know why they keep referring to it. It is brought up and then debunked on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 09:31 PM
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I do know that if men benefit from a higher standard of living, they should pitch in and learn how to maintain that, particularly if both partners contribute fairly equitably to the financials and especially if she's the breadwinner. That and there is always something the non-cleaner partner can do. I am the non-cleaner partner in my relationship...I am just more cluttery and more content letting things go a little (unless I am in a manic state but that is rare and best not to talk about). Anywa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 09:13 PM
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I sit in front of a computer for 80% of my job but I absolutely love it. It is interesting work. If it was data entry...ok that would suck. It makes perfect sense that you would have a different opinion for what you would most enjoy doing though! If I had kids with me SO and someone had to be the primary care-giver, I would rather it be him and not me. Both of us are career-oriented though so it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 08:51 PM
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Many men have already shown they are willing and capable of becoming homemakers. I know a few and they love it. I don't see why not, even when I personally don't see a value in it for me (I am a woman who enjoys her career and DINK lifestyle) but I still understand why a father or mother might choose that for their family.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 08:46 PM
2

Nice, where did you get this quote? Which link?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 08:21 PM
2

I am interested in this survey, can you point me to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 07:50 PM
1

But, if that is true, then it makes sense for both r and K type societies to repress women both politically and economically to achieve superior fertility rate. But if that too is true, I wonder why exactly did women go with it for the vast majority of civilization. What exactly did women get in return for diminished political and economical power? Superior fertility rate would only make sense in a society where a ton of babies/kids die and need to be replaced. Shifting resources from fertility …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 07:38 PM
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Yes, and during the more feudal times, it made more sense to have a TON of children because most of them would die on top of the fact that you needed to have a ton to help with the family trade. While you don't have many materials to pass on, you are still passing on a trade. Upward mobility wasn't really a thing. I think you illustrate why generally speaking, society now can't be r or K exactly. Woman unsure of who the father is, DNA will pinpoint = K. But, woman is able to own property, make m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 07:24 PM
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Education would actually be an important part of parental effort and nepotistic effort. In the K style. The R style is about finding and attracting mates mostly. "Reproductive Effort consists of Mating Effort (finding and attracting mates), Parental Effort (enhancing the survival of offspring), and Nepotistic Effort (enhancing the survival of genetic relatives)."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 06:55 PM
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Birth control leads to better family planning, being able to have children when you are in a stable enough environment to do so. Having children when you are too young (and most likely poor) will only keep you in poverty. Why do you think it is poor people who have more children than middle class+ people?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 06:19 PM
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I would say my social circles are all "high quality" people. Yes, of COURSE I would say that but when I think of what makes someone high quality (attractive, high income, smart, interesting, successful) that is my social circle. Maybe your goal was to insult me and imply my social circles (and therefore, me) are "lower-rung" but that is simply not the case. If you were not meaning to insult, then I apologize for my assumption. And to answer your question, I am thinking of the 7 closest couples t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 05:36 PM
1

300! Woah! I think if I were to realllly narrow down "deal breakers" I could come up with maaaybe 25. Even then, I have made exceptions. For example, smoking was my "dealbreaker". My boyfriend had so many really awesome qualities that I felt making an exception for this one thing made sense. On top of the fact that he wanted to quit smoking and is currently in the process of quitting. Perhaps if he gave no indication of ever even wanting to quit or if he smoked a pack a day, that would have mayb…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 05:32 PM
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It seems to work for them. It's another way of making themselves attractive and they both seem to be happy. I think the idea of not needing the "beta bux" and instead having the means to be able to marry that "alpha fux" is awesome. And you are right, they have respect within the niche they operate in, without the high-earnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/14 05:25 PM
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Only the top 20% of women are going to get the top 20% of men. The rest of the women and men have to settle for someone within their own attractiveness range. That is what humans do. Not everyone can have a super model. Revolution? Give me a break. What other conspiracies do you believe in?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 10:55 PM
2

How so? Overall, society gets more liberal with each generation. It doesn't sound like you were saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 10:41 PM
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You're right. I have a couple discussions going on at the same time... They're not going to tolerate 'dead weight' (while men will be more than happy to have a SAHM). I don't think anyone should tolerate "dead weight". I wouldn't consider a SAHM or a SAHD as "dead weight" though. Anyway, I found this interesting which pulls from a ton of studies: "Compared with men, women tend to monitor their relationships more closely, become aware of relationship problems sooner, and are more likely to initia…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 10:26 PM
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Yeah, I wonder...if marriage rates are dropping, would it mean that the marriages that are taking place, are stronger? And since the age of first marriage is climbing (27 & 28 if I remember correctly), that would put couples in a better position to have a healthier marriage, economically, and probably being more mature people as well. Plus, marriages have a better chance as the levels of education go up. It probably helps for everyone to get the tumultuous 20's behind them first.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 10:08 PM
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Nope. Typically women either end up alone or share an Alpha. They prefer both options to having exclusive access to a beta. Female hypergamy doesn't allow the average man to be attractive to her -- by having eyes for the top caliber of men she selects for the best DNA. Where do you get this notion? This seems so far outside the realm of my reality. Notice I said "my reality" because I acknowledge that maybe where you live, this is the norm. Most of my friends have gotten through the shaky relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 10:03 PM
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Honestly speaking, I don't think most Western women are strongly hypergamous. Much less so than women in poorer countries. Very true, that would make sense. More accurately, middle class and above women in Western countries are anti-hypogamous in general. A friend of mine is a successful businessman, but his wife is a partner at an HMO. He talks about being outclassed, but I asked him if she would have married him if he wasn't a successful person himself (probably close to top 1%), he admitted, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:58 PM
4

A real study please. The stats have been posted before, it won't be hard to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:44 PM
4

Oh dear, you seem to have a hard time with civil discussion. All right, it was nice conversing with you up to a point. Take care now!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:43 PM
5

Where are you basing the increasing divorce rate on? My impression was that the divorce rate is decreasing, from having peaked in the 80's.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:36 PM
3

But today's conservative is still more socially liberal than yesterday's conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:34 PM
4

I would think that a wage gap based on "women's choices" is ultimately, not in the best interest of society. For one thing, it would mean that smart women will be less likely to have children because it is too great of a sacrifice on their career. And at the same time, society misses out on the smart women who had to make the choice to stay out of the work force to pursue motherhood. It seems like society would prosper by encouraging the smart/educated/ambitious workers to raise healthy children…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:30 PM
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Hey, I don't know you and I have kept the conversation civil, so do not call me "sweetheart", ok? Beta/alpha... since the world is made up of people with an infinite degree of nuance, it is hard to have a discussion of this type. Studies have shown that men take breakups harder than women, but the study did not take into account these two variables. I suppose those alphas are going to be "going their own way" either way, right? Or in the future are there more alphas? Are more men forced into alp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:24 PM
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Ok, RedPillWatchTower stated above that women crave emotional attachment more so than men. So wouldn't women who are unable to get those top 20% of men just settle for the next 40% or so? Which would make sense because it isn't only the top 20% getting into relationships. Also, if women are financially independent, why would they even need the top 20%? They would go for the top 20% even less so, because they don't have to chase that paycheck. They can base their relationships on other qualities.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:18 PM
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When men lose jobs, that is happening in a relationship where the wife was not financially independent in the first place. So I can see how losing the cash-cow would be hard. If a financially independent women is getting into a relationship based not on what he earns, his losing a job should be easier to handle, right? And women are the overwhelming majority of initiators of divorce. This is always brought up but never with the accompanying statistics that say that the majority of divorces are d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:13 PM
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Interesting. I think you're probably right. I mean of course it varies person to person. I am personally very introverted and prefer to be left alone but overall, I like being with my boyfriend, more so than anyone else. I do feel that men get more emotionally attached though, which is why they take breakups harder....but that would require an attachment in the first place I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 09:09 PM
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That makes sense, no one should put up with that! Do you think that women who are financially independent are more likely to be disrespectful to their boyfriends/husbands vs. a wife who is dependent on her husbands paycheck?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:25 PM
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What shit would men have to put up with though? If a woman doesn't look at you as a walking wallet anymore, how is that a bad thing? (Assuming you are interested in an LTR)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:06 PM
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Today, careers have fulfilled Beta Bux for successful women, and the government has fulfilled Beta Bux for poor women and single mothers. This has allowed ALL women to amplify and intensify the satisfaction of their Alpha Fux. Women will no longer accept even the most minor physical or personality flaws in a man just because he is a good provider. Ok, so if people are more independent with their finances, women no longer have to consider another mans finances when it comes to marriage. I see tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:50 PM
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It is broken down into frequency as well as number of partners. The genders are still showing similar numbers. Start at page 4 and compare all the tables.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 05:48 PM
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With the exception with my current boyfriend, I have always earned more than any guy I have dated. It has never been an issue. I just don't have to think about their financials, my attraction is based on their looks and personality. I am guessing the future will be more of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 05:39 PM
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Advice we are responding to: imaginary fuck # 2: tell them you slept with an underage girl that's illegal in a certain state and that she was 17 or 18 or whatever the illegal age in that state is (just google a state and the statury age). And that you don't want to get into details as you might get jailed (their parents almost found out). If they press for details, just tell them it's your blanket rule not to tell anybody anything, and that you don't mean to offend by holding back and not sharin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 04:01 PM
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Your reality is so different than everyone else's. Time and time again TRP "observations" have been factually wrong and not based in reality, mostly scientifically unproven. There isn't much more to say to your types. Your head is in the sand and you will see the world the way you want to see it. I actually just feel bad for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 01:12 AM
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Your first paragraph is correct but the rest is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 12:18 AM
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Because TRP is based on ideas that "women are this" or "women are that" and this whole conversation is about women when men exhibit the same characteristics that TRP likes to attribute to women. I am pointing out that your theory about the wall doesn't make sense when in fact, humans mature as they age, and that has nothing to do with women or "the wall". It isn't about your feelings, it is about your opinion not holding water.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 10:39 PM
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No. But they should try something they have never tried before. I can not imagine someone hating every hobby that a woman might like. Or hating any hobby that is done outside of their house... And they shouldn't lie, that would come back and bite them in the ass I bet. Hobby ideas off the top of my head: Hiking, painting, dancing, yoga, crossfit or whatever it is a bunch of people I know are doing, gaming clubs, intramural sports (bunch of those in my city with a good mix of genders), donate to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 09:45 PM
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I think about 5% to 10% of the women I know I would say sound like how RedPill describes all women. Similarly, about 5% to 10% of men are the way RedPill describes men. My crowd is typically young professionals and creatives to middle-aged professionals and creatives, upper-middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 09:34 PM
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Both men and women mellow because they both mature. That is Human101.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/14 09:32 PM
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Here are some actual numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 04:02 PM
1

The other day, I made really terrible pizza. The flour was whole wheat and I just wasn't used to it, and I think my yeast was expired. It happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 08:20 PM
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Exactly. An agenda!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 07:57 PM
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Conversely, I find it hard to wrap my head around why would a healthy woman ever say no to sex if she didn't have an agenda. Read: if she wasn't trying to use sex as a carrot and stick to control/manipulate(oh god the m-word) the husband into doing what she wants. It's not like she loses something by doing it and it always is pleasurable when done properly, so - why? She's tired? She's busy? She has a lot on her mind? She is thinking about a big project due at work? She is just not feeling it? S…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 07:53 PM
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Hmm you can maintain a long term relationship without revealing every little detail about yourself. I hope you understand that. I'm sure you haven't revealed every detail about yourself to your partner. Maybe that's a requirement for you. I do not actively hide anything from my partner. I do not tell him absolutely everything going on in my life or everything in my background because that would require a lot of talking...but I do not actively hide anything. And yeah, it is sort of a requirement …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 04:45 PM
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Exactly. Two people could be doing the same thing but one will reek of trying too damn hard. Those videos are a good example because I have seen RPers post the videos and talk about them but when I watch them it is like I saw something entirely different. Their movements, facial expressions...its just off at the very least and downright laughable like the skull guy and his cigarette.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 09:41 PM
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That is depressing. However, I see people all the time in my community and circles who are the "rising tide lifts all ships" type of people. Successful people who mentor and generally are good, honest people, yet not doormats either. I don't know if it's their instincts, like they just know who to trust and who to not trust...or when it is someone they need to vet they are careful to not put too much into them (I am thinking of a few real examples here) and therefore their loss was limited and n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 09:32 PM
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Ahh ok. My point is that a successful red piller wouldn't come out with his views. I don't think this would work for long-term relationships or friendships then, since people tend to talk to each other about their views. People and leadership skills can be learned just like any other skill. I'm much better with people now than I was before reading the red pill. I have less insecurities now than before I was red pill. I think people can learn to be more confident and learn leadership skills with …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 09:22 PM
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Interesting. Thanks for indulging me. Much appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 07:26 PM
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Ok, I see what you're saying. An alpha is a man that most women find attractive. I would say that being in a relationship would not hinder that, as it has been mentioned in redpill that a taken man can sometimes be seen as more attractive, no? Do you think that a man who is very physically attractive and gets ONS's, but otherwise insecure, lacking confidence, lazy, not well liked by his peers, etc...is he alpha?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 06:32 PM
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Just trying to get a working definition here for a little context in the overall discussion. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 06:28 PM
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I think it might be helpful to define what makes a person alpha. Especially if you believe that getting into a relationship automatically disqualifies someone as alpha. My thoughts are: Community leader Well-liked by all Commanding presence Conversationalist, can control a conversation, ask the right questions. Successful in business Real confidence, secure
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 06:04 PM
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On the surface I might not be able to tell outside of PUA tactics. I can read people decently, I have good perception, and while initially I might not know exactly what is up, I will suspect something is off. If I got more involved though, there would be tells. Two recent boyfriends of mine I would classify as "alpha" (including my current boyfriend) although I hate the term and being alpha/beta doesn't matter to me, regardless, he is highly respected in our community and extremely successful. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 05:59 PM
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Thanks for catching that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 04:39 PM
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This is hilariously bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 05:17 AM
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Well this feminist blue pill has dated plenty of short guys. In fact, I would say less than 20% of boyfriends have even been above 6'. Only once was it an issue... I dated a guy who was 5'6" which is my height as well, and he would throw a fucking shit fit if I even hinted at the possibility that I might want to wear heels. The next guy I dated happened to be 5'6" as well and so I asked him if heels would be an issue, and he laughed and said he loves heels.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/14 11:39 PM
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Yeah but what kind of women are broken men actually able to attract?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 07:44 PM
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Yeah I love that look. I also love silver/white longish hair on women. It is beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 10:08 PM
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Oh totally. You are right though, when you are married to someone and both of you age together, you are going to be more forgiving of those natural age-related things that happen, and tend to not notice them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 09:51 PM
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Women might wrinkle faster but balding is a male trait. Balding just doesn't look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 09:45 PM
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You just really want it to be a thing, but it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 01:53 AM
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I don't think there is much difference between men and women aging. Men get bald. Oh god does that really affect their looks. Late 20's for both generally as far as physical peak. It really depends on lifestyle and genetics from person to person. I was a late bloomer, I looked funny in my early twenties...I look much better now at 32 than I did at 24. My ten year high school reunion was ridiculous...I was super nerdy and ugly in high school, but at 28 I looked so good yet 90% of my classmates ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 03:57 AM
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Like in the movie Her?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 07:43 PM
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I did not know who it was but after looking briefly at his site, he seems like a decent dude. I will definitely read more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/14 04:47 PM
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Cosmo is trash and no one I know takes it seriously. I would say a good comparison (for feminist-friendly relationship advice to compare to Redpill dating advice) might be Dr. Nerd Love perhaps? I would start from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/14 09:35 PM
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Yep, I feel like you and I are similar...we certainly have similar experiences with men. I have yet to find these virgin-hunters outside of TRP or religious circles. Men I know seem pretty goddamn normal...TRP dudes are certainly a unique brand of man that I thankfully never encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/14 12:14 AM
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You really think that normal guys go for teens? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 11:44 PM
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14 years old? They look like kids. Men don't REALLY go for teenagers. What world are you living in? And the 14-18 year old models never actually look their age, they always look older.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/14 10:31 PM
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Well, in my case, I am bisexual, so I at least know when I find a women sexually attractive. Not only that, I have pretty open conversations with men and women and we don't shy away from this type of talk. I have a decent understanding of what my male friends find attractive, as well as what my SO (who is basically a man's man type) finds attractive because we just don't hold back (and we don't always agree either). I have good-looking friends dating good-looking people, all in the upper 20s to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 05:54 PM
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How would the fact that I don't have a penis to get a boner make any difference on how attractive people are in my city or social circles?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 05:31 PM
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Mid-thirties is about where I think humans generally peak in attractiveness depending on how well you have taken care of yourself as well as your genetics, some people just age better than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 05:29 PM
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I wouldn't say its rare but ok. Maybe it's just the city I am in or my social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 01:12 AM
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I am with you. I am very liberal here, I have a good career so I have my "own" money. My boyfriend has his career, we both do well for ourselves...but we live together and so we share finances. Maybe it isn't an issue because we both make decent money IDK. Large purchases are discussed with each other. Ultimately we do what we want with our money but we never had an issue because neither of us are frivolous about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/14 10:44 PM
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I find that so funny, appearance-wise, because 30 year old women don't even have wrinkles or gray hairs yet, and it is still not difficult to keep fit at that age. I still was a baby-face chick at 24 years old, I get way more attention now (from men and women of all ages) that I have grown into myself looks-wise than I did in my mid-twenties. I find the concept that 30 is old so strange. Is it from people who just don't take care of themselves or are surrounded by others who don't take care of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/14 10:39 PM
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Meager contribution? You must have such a sad life to hold on to this. I mean, does it make up for your own inadequacy to hold on to the idea that a group that you don't belong to is inferior? Great people doing great things don't threaten me, its wonderful. Why do they threaten you? Is it your own lack of accomplishments in life? In romance? For a long time, the Irish were scoring low on IQ tests, that gap closed, you do feel superior to them? Black people too, what is your opinion there?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 09:51 PM
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The gaps are closing, you're on the losing team buddy. If you can't accept recent science because of outdated studies agree better with your opinion, there is nothing more to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 09:43 PM
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You don't have anything that debunks it, like you claimed. In any event, it is a highly regarded study and I assume any study that disagrees with your opinions will be seen as having a "liberal bias". Which is funny because the study addresses that as well as some un-PC findings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 09:23 PM
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You have not addressed that the study I showed you is highly-regarded and recent and average IQs of women have slightly surpassed men. And yes, there are more retarded men than retarded women and there are more men with high IQs than women with high IQs. Not disputing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 09:10 PM
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Your link shows that the difference is very minimal but on top of that the studies are from 2004, still older than the 2012 study from highly reputable leader in the field James Flynn. IQ's have been rising for everyone, and they have been rising faster for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 08:03 PM
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Sorry, your article did not debunk the latest studies saying that women have surpassed men. And this one here that even states "So they certainly equaled men, and perhaps were slightly above. This has been distorted in the news of my saying that women are incredibly more intelligent than men. As you can see, this somewhat goes beyond what was claimed."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 06:34 PM
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You really just took something and went with it huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 04:59 PM
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You haven't proven anything. At all. People long ago thought the world was flat too. Being believed a lot of stupid things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 04:57 PM
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It hasn't been debunked, but your decades old study has, many times over. If you want to believe it because it makes you feel better, have at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/14 09:46 PM
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The 5 points IQ thing was from decades ago and a recent study actually has shown women to surpass men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/14 09:35 PM
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Why is it a crisis of masculinity when it's women having this issue as well? It's a crisis of entitlement, if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 12:25 PM
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I'd like to add that Socrates had three teachers and they were all women. So there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 12:49 AM
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But by that standard, do a lot of American middle-class men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 12:43 AM
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There ARE women geniuses in chemistry and music and architecture. If those were my fields I would know them by name but they are too current to be famous everywhere. In a few years though... And of course there are historic examples. Wasn't it a woman who invented radar? And Ada Lovelace, and Madam Curie? A few women who had to submit their studies through their husbands and some women who's male colleagues stole credit for their work too like the woman who discovered the structure of DNA...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/14 12:32 AM
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Source for that? So far though, the 20/80 statement has been shown to not hold water. Not even close. Please though, give a source that says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 02:19 PM
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I would love to see a source on that! So far, all we have is my source saying that more men are having sex. I have never seen anything that comes close to the 20/80 rule that gets touted here all the time. National Survey of Sexual Health & Behavior is a solid source so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/14 02:17 PM
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According to the Kinsey Institute, 90% of men and 86% of women have had sex in the past year so its apparently the other way around only not extreme at all either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 08:52 PM
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According to the Kinsey Institute, 90% of men and 86% of women have had sex in the past year so its apparently the other way around only not extreme at all either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 08:51 PM
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They have some legit issues but seem to be a reactionary movement instead rather than one that works for change.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 08:41 PM
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I don't know about that... Men seem to be prone to emotional outbursts which I would say is not being better at regulating emotions especially since society tends to discourage healthy expression of emotion in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 08:36 PM
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I honestly don't know many because all my friends seem to be in happy relationships...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 07:32 PM
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You can't be over 26 and still think that. I am a few years older than 26 and while I have a tendency to be an optimist, I have seen enough or been through enough really solid relationships to know that it is true at least for some people. My parents being the best example as they have been happy together for 35+ years. Are you hipsters: you're artsy he likes music, I will admit, we may have been accused of this before. I don't think his beard is long enough though and he has only 1 flannel shir…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 05:31 PM
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For sex, I totally agree, but for relationships, you're just setting yourself up for a loosing race. I agree his self esteem needs fixing, but marrying a woman with self esteem issues of her own is not a solution, it is just a patch prone to infection agains lonelyness. Never said he should marry anyone let along another person with terrible self esteem issues. Recipe for disaster. You must be young, you still think relationships are build on honesty don't you. Not young. Relationships should be…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 11:13 PM
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There is a lot to unpack here. I got that OP wanted to get laid, or wanted to know why he can't. I don't know if it is physical or emotional or both or none. No way of knowing. What do you suggest?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 07:59 PM
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I literally know a guy with no nose who is married, he wasn't even that funny, sort of grumpy actually. That aside, I also know of unattractive people who are in relationships. Yes, you can be physically ugly and still get laid...who you get laid with might also be physically ugly though. Never promised anything, I did say he might have to lower his standards. If he doesn't want to improve himself, he will have to lower his standards. Why would you disagree with that? Why coddle that behavior ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 07:52 PM
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This is actually good advice but I doubt he even thinks he should do all of what you mentioned. It is a good start though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 06:32 PM
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Why should feminism help men who refuse to improve themselves or grow out of insecurity, get laid? I just want to have the same financial and social opportunities as men. I could see how feminism could actually help caring men get mates...since women no longer need to find a mate based on financial need. More and more women are breadwinners. More and more women are making the same or more than their mate. It isn't equal now but it is getting there. I know personally, that means I do not have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 06:27 PM
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Improving himself no doubt didn't work because he lacks the self-awareness to have figured out what he was doing wrong. I am not sure where I said you do not need to be attractive. My advice was to figure out what is wrong with you and then fix it. You don't need to be physically attractive but if you are not physically attractive and can't fix it, you need to work on other traits to make yourself more attractive. If you do not care to improve as a person, then you need to instead lower your sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 06:14 PM
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Source? I mean, I know that is your defense to men divorcing their ailing wives but its ok to realize that there are men and women who kinda suck, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 06:04 PM
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For a lot of people yes. I personally have an extensive liquor cabinet and I also experiment with making liquors and bitters and coming up with new cocktails. That being said, I wouldn't go to a club for their cocktail creations, I would be going there, getting drunk enough to dance without feeling too self conscious so yeah...I wouldn't be too picky about the brand of vodka I needed to suck down at a club.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 06:01 PM
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Friday night I went out with friends after work and then went to bed early because literally every night this week has been some event or going out and I was pretty damn tired. I hope your week gets better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 02:06 PM
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Not everyone is "alpha". And people who TRP would call "betas" are still getting laid. I would just...not focus on that. It is a distraction. Focus on you. What is it about you that is attractive? What would others like about you? What do YOU like about you? What do you not like about yourself? What are you willing to work on? Are your standards too high? And feminism isn't "darwinism" because it has nothing to do with sexual strategy. In the simplest of terms, its about having equal rights. Aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/14 12:41 PM
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Yeah I think my boyfriend and I just trade back and forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/14 06:12 PM
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Women are more willing and able to battle for love. When a stressor like illness comes into play, the man will disappear and the woman will be the one to fight,” Ham said. Makes sense when they put it that way. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/14 06:08 PM
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Except women are overwhelmingly the ones more invested in marriage as they are the ones who tend to seek counseling and help for their marriage. They are also the ones who will stick with an ailing husband while men tend to divorce an ailing wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/14 05:59 PM
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Yep. My mom does more for the family and relationship. She handles everything. My father enjoys his life and reaps the rewards. My parents are best friends and have been together 40 years and have an active social life. If my mom is upset about something (and she really is a reasonable person so it isn't like it is hard to make her happy) my dad needs to figure it out. I think this is true in families where the wives run the house. As macho as my dad can be...my mom runs the house, and it's bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/14 02:55 PM
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Hah well that would make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 05:02 PM
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I am not talking about sexual prowess but sure that is a benefit too. I talking more about maturity in a relationship. Relationship skills like being able to work with a partner better, communicate effectively, learning what one wants to get out of a relationship for themselves, learning how to give, etc. And a lot of personal growth as well that benefits a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 01:41 PM
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Hey, at least you aren't deluding yourself, I can respect that. Thanks for having a civil conversation btw. Much appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 01:38 PM
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I wouldn't say that the relationships I am talking about add nothing (or worse) to their lives. They are mutually beneficial in fact, it is just that the values they have overlap instead of being a battle. Are relationships where you find them to be a battle to win, are those higher quality? Or is what makes them higher quality is that they are to you specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 06:28 PM
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I guess I feel like being cut-throat in everything is a risk too. Maybe less-so. Long term, it is lonelier, but if building meaningful relationships (friendships and partnerships included) isn't your thing, then the risk is certainly minimal. There are still people working and making big money in wall street...so you have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 04:25 PM
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Is it so black and white? I just know so many guys who I consider "good guys" and they are financially successful and are in really great, loving marriages or relationships, or even are what I call "ethical sluts". They don't go through life steamrolling over others, but are good at what they do and are involved in the community somehow and they are successful. Maybe I am just running with a good crowd...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 02:49 PM
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Wouldn't the same be true for positive attributes? If they are in a few relationships, each time building from what they learned in the last relationship, that would mean they have gained positive attributes and experience to be better relationship partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 02:39 PM
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Since I walk to and from work, and really, I walk everywhere in my city, I get cat-called (meh) to straight-up harassment at least every other day, sometimes every day (in the spring and summer). As far as meeting and talking to men in and around my social circle...very very rare bad experience. I don't think I encounter much of a "bad attitude" expressed to me anyway. Everyone who comes up and talks to me is pleasant to me and anyone I approach is always pleasant. I have a very active social li…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 05:46 PM
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It depends on the libidos of everyone in the relationship and depends on what the numbers are. I mean, hardly any sex is most likely not healthy for a relationship. I don't know what "less sex" means though, as far as numbers are concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/14 03:40 PM
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Check out /r/ThankTRP So much funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 09:24 PM
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The same study said that there is less sex but the marriage is a happier marriage. I think I would rather have the happier marriage (as long as there is still sex...I don't know what the numbers were).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 07:00 PM
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My social circle actually has quite a few of these examples. They all seem to be quite happy actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 06:58 PM
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If she is the breadwinner, alimony would be awarded to the husband in a divorce if alimony is sought.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 06:56 PM
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Oh they absolutely do! What is attractive to one person might not be attractive to another. That's why I put quotations around them mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 02:58 PM
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I've said this after a string of terrible dates but it's simply not true. There are plenty of "good" guys and plenty of great women out there. Sometimes, just timing sucks. What are "good men"? A person who has similar values to what you are looking for, is attractive and mature. I think that is what a good man generally is. Generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 12:01 AM
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136/32/130 One of these numbers are incorrect. Really only about 5 unique cocks because they have otherwise looked quite ordinary as far as cocks are concerned...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 01:38 AM
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I don't think you're an outlier, but you sound like me soo...maybe I am an outlier. Basically, I make a decent income for a person my age. Out of the last 5 relationships, I made more money than 4 of them...and my current boyfriend made the same salary as I did up until recently. I always felt that because I make decent money, it's not something I need to take into consideration as far as who I dated was concerned. I don't care if he made more or less money than I did, there were more important …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 12:39 AM
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48/63 Very interesting. Redpillers having a low EQ doesn't surprise me but I guess I am a little surprised at the low SQ scores. Maybe I shouldn't be, but no curiosity for the world, no interest in how things work? That's just disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 12:31 AM
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Your own bias is no better than even an old study that says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 09:18 PM
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One of the last links is to a very long study. I think it is the last link.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 09:05 PM
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The original OP, there are a ton of links there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 09:04 PM
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I already showed a lot of reasons why marriage benefits men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 08:48 PM
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Hey this is a really well-thought out answer and I appreciate that. I made the mistake of posting my OP right before going to a dance party and now that it is morning, I am nursing a giant hangover so I can not really think right now. But I just wanted to mention that I really appreciate you taking your time to reply and that I will get back to this. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/14 02:22 PM
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In the 80s it was. I do remember that from one of my studies that pointed out that it has changed dramatically from that time. I can't remember which one mentions it so I am going from memory. But it stated that the trend had shifted. I will look again for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/14 01:15 PM
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Marriage has always benefited men more, I think that's why. No idea about Florida, what's the story behind that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/14 01:08 PM
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I honestly see the benefits of never being married for both genders. I totally respect your choice so I am not sure my questions apply to you as you seem to have a balanced view. That is, you are happy single and you don't shame women for making the same choice because it makes sense to you. I agree on a lot of your points you make too. I never got the whole "single people are selfish, promiscuous, etc... I mean, I can use myself as an example although I am not single (live-in LTR) I have made t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/14 01:06 PM
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They are happier after divorce despite the toll it takes on them because the marriage is unhappy. The incentive should be to foster an environment that makes a happy marriage. Especially when considering that women overwhelmingly care more for the marriage and for it to work (initiating therapy, etc) yet still get a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/14 12:58 PM
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Numerous studies had shown (and I linked them in the original post) that marriage actually was beneficial for mens overall happiness as well as health. Married men are more happy than single men, apparently. Everything else you mention I also covered and linked to the appropriate studies or articles. Differentstudies too, not just one from 2006.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/14 01:59 AM
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Really? I feel like 14 and 15 year olds, girls and guys, are all awkward looking. And people who were popular when I went to high school, now seem to find themselves to be out of shape, in shitty jobs and miserable marriages (or divorced) while plenty of the dorky ones who were miserable in high school (me! me! pick me!) are quite successful in love and life now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 11:23 PM
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Even marketing has to get more specific than just male/female. It depends on the product too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 11:18 PM
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Western marriage happens because people fall in love. The marriages are not arranged. Legal marriage has legal benefits, yes...but people get married in the west because of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 08:30 PM
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I agree, it is a rough patch for both genders to be single around that time. Gotta get them pre or post first marriage...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 06:13 PM
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Men and women are coupling at the same rate though and tend to marry people within only a couple years of themselves. So if you are noticing a lack of single women in that age range...you seem to gloss over the fact that there will also be a similar number of single men in that age range. The average ages of first marriage for men and women are 28 and 26, respectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 05:41 PM
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This definitely seems like an unusual thing, I can't relate nor make sense of it. I would go with her having a couple screws loose. I think it is safe to assume that their relationship sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 07:48 PM
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Oh, there is an equivalent PUA for women, you have heard of The Rules, right? It is crap in my opinion, much like PUA. But, there you have it. Anyway, the studies do not bode well for narcissists in the long term. AND the studies seem to show BOTH men and women can be attracted to the dark triad personalities AT FIRST. So...why are men attracted to psycho girlfriends and not the nice girl next door? . From here it is stated: "Narcissists don't play well with others, and this becomes clearer in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 09:40 PM
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What are you trying to post to? The link isn't allowed for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 07:59 PM
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Young women and men are routinely turned down for getting tubaligations (sp) and vasectomies. Those are probably more comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/14 11:02 AM
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Libby doesn't come off as evil at all. Are we watching the same show? She is lashing out at Coral because class is the only thing she has on her. Coral has come to help and shown herself naturally extremely capable and well, a better mother and caretaker than Libby...with Libby's own child. Libby is multi-layered. She can be "good" and also "says racist things", it is called dimension.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 05:18 PM
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Fight was extremely well-acted. It was SO good. Lizzy Caplan is so awesome, so beautiful. I love her. My boyfriend and I watch the show regularly. I am actually friends with one of the leads so it is cool to get a little bit of what happens behind the scenes...and the clothes!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 05:12 PM
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Step away from the TV. It has occupied so much of your brain that you are actually believing it is real or reflects reality. It is one thing for it to be a hobby but....you need to take a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/14 06:56 PM
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Just for the tumblr porn. I like the short animated gifs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/14 11:25 AM
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We did hit the jackpot. Timing was right for both of us, and we were both in a good place individually. We reflect on that a lot, how good we have it. It seems to work organically but we can't dismiss the fact that we had both worked on ourselves as individuals up to this point and we both have a desire to make this relationship work, we both see what we have in each other it would be silly to take each other for granted. It is a mix of "this is easy" and "a little maintenance keeps this running…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/14 12:00 AM
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What does he bring? My boyfriend just brought home lobsters. He brings it, if "it" is lobsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 08:52 PM
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Equal relationship as far as "power" is concerned with special consideration to each persons skills and talent. Real-World Example: My partner is physically stronger than me, he will move furniture and other manly things like kill spiders. I am better with computers, I counseled him on the best options for his aging computer as well as upgraded his computer for him. I am handier, minor plumbing and electric falls to me, anything more difficult falls to a professional. I am a designer, general lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 08:50 PM
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I found The Rules to be really offensive too though. I don't read Cosmo.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 09:21 PM
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When I was trying to leave my abusive boyfriend he punched and kicked me and physically prevented me from leaving. A neighbor came over and distracted him and I left. The boyfriend decided to call my mother and several friends to tell them I was a whore. He had immediately shut off my phone (we had a family plan) and so my friends and mom couldn't get a hold of me to make sure I was ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 11:20 AM
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Even if you were cheating you didn't deserve that!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 11:15 AM
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No, women will not naturally assume so, as evidenced by the study I posted about that very thing. We discussed this already.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 06:42 PM
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"Weak" is different from "expressing emotion". You are conflating the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 05:53 PM
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Men ARE emotional, they just need to learn to express emotion in a healthy way, and be encouraged to. Society discourages it. Discouraging men from expressing themselves is definitely cultural.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 05:01 PM
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Or you could read the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 11:17 AM
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What does it mean that the Y chromosomes are heterochromatic then?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 12:31 AM
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But according to the study, opening up is what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 12:30 AM
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Ok to be honest, this is a confusing read for me, I am not a biologist, so bare with me. But, isn't this saying the opposite of what you just stated? "XY systems in which the X is large and gene rich and the Y small and heterochromatic are represented in species as diverse as humans, skinks, Drosophila, and even some plants. ZW systems include birds and snakes as well as butterflies. The mammalian XY and the bird ZW are superficially similar, with one partner (X or Z) large and gene rich, and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 09:37 PM
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As someone who was born with little to no empathy, I can't really see how it could be advantageous to me. hah that's because you lack empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 09:33 PM
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Yes, society has shamed men for displaying their emotions, but as we as humans gain a better understanding of mental health, it is getting better. Mental health awareness for example, is growing momentum. That stoic feel-nothing attitude is falling out of favor, people prefer balance more and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 09:16 PM
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Men who share negative feelings is a good thing, a guy willing to open up even about negative things...thats great! Both sexes benefit when they can empathize with their partners feelings, both negative and positive feelings. A guy that is always just angry? No, that's scary and best to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 09:14 PM
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Being able to express your emotion doesn't make one weak. Bottling up is weak, blowing up on others is weak, unfeeling is definitely unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 07:46 PM
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Agreed, it is definitely a catch-22 and it is complete bullshit that men who express their emotions are shamed for that. Maybe not near future but I think as we gain better understanding of psychology and mental health, the situation will get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 04:31 PM
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The lack of showing emotion isn't a good thing though. That's why women have better EQs, they handle their emotions better and they are better able to express their emotions. Being an unfeeling man isn't "better" and will only lead to a blowup or suicide. Why do you think more men commit suicide? Men need helping expressing their emotions better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 03:41 PM
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"Women tend not to be as aggressive as men in expressing anger and tend to talk about their anger more, she says. "They are more proactive and use more problem-solving approaches in discussing a problem with a person they are angry with," says Tangney." "In a survey of 1,300 people ages 18 to 90, DiGiuseppe investigated 18 subscales of anger, including how individuals experience their anger, how long the anger lasts and what they get angry about. While he found that differences in men's and wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 03:30 PM
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This is all generalities of course, but men do not express their emotions well and then it bottles up inside and explodes as anger. Their anger is expressed outwardly too. ETA: See my more in-depth reply above :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 03:00 PM
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Diplomacy Business management Risk management Multi-tasking Empathy Color perception Social situations Gymnastics Immune system Life expectancy Anger management Emotional control
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/14 11:19 AM
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Men and women are just as emotional. Women just express their emotions more. Someone up thread expanded on this a little better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 11:25 AM
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Except that studies now show that women's IQs have risen faster than men's and even surpassed them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 11:15 PM
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On average? No. And there have been a ton of recent studies that show either no difference or a difference so slight...and certainly nowhere near 5 points, some tests showing women with a higher average IQ. study this one saying the gap is closing [this one saying women have a higher IQ](On average? No. And there have been a ton of recent studies that show either no difference or a difference so slight...and certainly nowhere near 5 points, some tests showing women with a higher average IQ. stud…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 11:09 PM
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ahh I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 06:01 PM
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Yeah but the 80/20 rule is....not actually real.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 05:48 PM
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Mentally: Men in general have very slightly higher IQ than women. Male IQ variability is higher(in both directions). Men are better at spacial ability, though women have better spatial memory. Just wanted to correct your wording. To say men generally have a higher IQ would be as accurate as saying that men generally have a lower IQ, because of higher variability. There are men with very high IQs and men with very low IQs, where more women less varied. They average out nearly the same though. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 05:37 PM
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So you didn't read the post at all then. K.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/14 11:32 AM
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Yes! When I felt that I offered no value to the relationship besides sex (or that he felt that way about me) and if I wasn't having sex that I failed as a girlfriend...the less I wanted sex. Funny how that works :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/14 11:19 PM
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Lol no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/14 07:38 PM
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The excuses are possible problems, not excuses. When she pinpoints the problem, they can work towards fixing it. Maybe she's the type that gets turned off from him bending over backwards to help her but...it doesn't sound like he is really bending over backwards for anything but we don't know either way in this particular instance. And to the second part of your comment, I think you're right in this instance, I suspect anyway, because again, we don't know for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 02:48 PM
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I read this...it's interesting. I wonder if the drop off in drive has to do with birth control? I swear it zapped my libido completely but once I got off it, my drive came back. It ebbs and flows but it's only getting better in my relationship...and I feel very secure in my relationship. Could be kids too...I hear that will kill a libido. Also the bit about tenderness was interesting...I always felt I am never as tender as guys, maybe I am just weird. I find guys that I am with to be the romanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 02:57 AM
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You seem to lack empathy and a general understanding of human emotions...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 01:28 AM
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They committed to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 01:19 AM
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That's what it sounds like to me...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 12:37 AM
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It's a two-way street. My boyfriend was willing to examine what he could do to help me out but in this case it was mostly on me, but the fact that he didn't pile this on me meant a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/14 08:24 PM
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He basically threw a grenade into the relationship (and I picture the relationship was a withering landscape) and walked away.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/14 07:44 PM
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Well, I am assuming the husband has brought it up to her before, and I am also going to assume that maaaaybe she did not take the issue as seriously as she should. I only see desperation from his action (either that or this was a "fuck you" and she is going to come home to an empty house and divorce papers) and I think they BOTH need to act, and act fast. This is a wakeup call. I see both sides from this, as I have been the low-libido one in a relationship AND a high-libido one. It can be depres…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/14 07:43 PM
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Wow that is really fucked up and unhealthy. Sex is important in a lot of relationships but the husband is handling it all wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/14 05:56 PM
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They are famous or have lived a long time and are not monogamous. Yes, some people have had sex with many many many people, they are not you nor I, what does this have to do with anything though?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 01:23 PM
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I think humans will go for overcompensation of confidence than under. As an artist...that is what I have noticed and experienced, that's for sure. Confidence, even if faked...gets you far...at least until one can gain real confidence. Seems like a no-brainer. However...overcompensating can go too far and come off really fake and obvious. Thats why people might make fun of a douches overly-sporty car or throwing money around. Some people can easily pick up it when it lacks genuineness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 12:33 AM
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some girls might be attracted to that. Really, that entire thread just showed how diverse women are in what they find attractive. TRP ideaology is about having a certain type of woman attracted to them. Even still, if that particular type of woman is only looking for a casual hookup, and that's what she likes, and the TRPer is what she is looking for, and she is what he is looking for, and they have sex, that's their prerogative, because yay sex! It doesn't say anything about men and women as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 07:54 PM
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Ohhhh one of the comments in the linked thread which stated she was attracted to bad boy types. I thought thats what this particular thread was about, my mistake if I am wrong. In it though, she just states she is attracted to bad boy types, and was ashamed of that, but nothing more was stated. I was just pointing out that you can't conclude that she actively dates that type, just that we know she is aware of being attracted to that type. It doesn't really prove nor disprove anything though :/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 07:27 PM
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My parents warned me about any man who was not in their religion and tried to tell me that every man on the outside was a rapist and a drug dealer, and that every woman on the outside was a prostitute and a drug dealer. Needless to say, I did not listen to their advice. I have never been horrified by the men I am attracted to but I think that is because I found the opposite of what my parents said, to be true. My starting place was much different than yours though. As for ethics, a strong set is…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 07:24 PM
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I would think for a casual thing, looks are everything, or just nearly. You can't fuck their personality, so who cares if it is a good personality or bad, it just doesn't matter. Although, I would think a measure of safety might factor in for a woman...like "this guy is super attractive and gives off a vibe that he won't murder me, game on!". So very different when it comes to long term potential though. I would think that looks become a tiny bit less important while good personality traits beco…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 06:34 PM
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Me too but I would not call those types "bad boys". I mean, I am the rebellious type myself, and so I like people who tend to question everything instead of immediately falling in line. They have a strong set of ethics though, and are certainly not psycho.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 06:29 PM
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It isn't stated that she dates them though, just that she is conscious of the fact that she is attracted to that quality. If anything, the awareness of that might actually help her steer clear of the men with those personalities so she doesn't get herself into a miserable situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 06:25 PM
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The thread shows how diverse womens tastes are in things they are ashamed in finding attractive. I see some things that would conform to TRP view, like, a couple people mentioning they like thugs or bad boys...but I don't see much else. Oh, someone said they like gingers, so there's that. The responses are all over the place though. Quite a few women said they like gasp short men, a couple said they like nerds. If I were to answer the question myself...I would say I guess I don't like hairy men,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 06:23 PM
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Well, I'm not the one that actually subscribes to it...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/14 05:30 PM
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So does that mean that someone like myself, who identifies as a woman but does not identify with any of these gender roles that red pill or a conservative society would try to fit me in...makes complete sense? If I identified with the roles...those are hard wired but gender is not. So I identify has female, on fact I am pretty feminine in a lot of things I do but I do not accept a lot of female roles, but because the roles are hard wired, I would only fit into those roles of I identified with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/14 01:29 AM
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The rules in creepypms are very very specific and enforced. There have been times I just held my tongue. There had been times I had been asked to change a word or two that I said. Never been banned from there, but I did get banned from SRS once but was unbanned when I pm'd the mod. And yes, it seems bureaucracy has replaced actual good judgement and empathy. Zero tolerance had good intentions but in practice it eliminates subtlety that some situations create with the ability to really fuck up so…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/14 05:25 PM
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Yeah I am BP and I read creepypms but I don't really know anyone over there. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/14 03:59 PM
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Vice did a great documentary on that you might be interested in. I can't seem to find exactly what I was looking for but this is also good
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/14 10:56 AM
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Ahh yes, ok. I mean, it is illegal to send child porn but I feel like in this case since it is the child himself creating it and sending to just one person (who seemed consensually receiving it?) and they are both close in age to each other, both being minors... I would say this situation is "different". Not that its a good situation but certainly different from the usual child porn cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/14 06:49 PM
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Seems like they are in a relationship, ages are close in range, seems consensual...why are either of them being charged at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/14 11:10 AM
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Not every single culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/14 10:02 PM
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Yep. And in that case I don't see one being better than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/14 09:56 PM
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You're right. I am not sure what I was thinking about.... I found it interesting though, that so much focus is put on the women who fall in with the sociopath but no focus on men who fall in with the female counterpart. Sociopathic males are typically charming, charismatic, promiscuous, and deceitful. Histrionic females are skilled at exaggerating their needs to desired males while masking their true promiscuous nature. They often seek to control their partner through emotional manipulation. His…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/14 09:57 PM
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I could have sworn I read a study that it is a human instinct (that is stronger in women) to avoid sociopaths and generally the dark-triad types. Does anyone know what I am talking about? I am trying to find a source. If I can find it, it would seem to debunk TRP idea that women are attracted to that, so I will go find it...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/14 09:23 PM
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Nope. More men have higher-than-average IQs as well as lower-than-average IQs. The averages level out. As far as intelligence, there are small differences in types but again, when talking about overall, its negligible: "but studies have shown advantage for both males and females, with slight advantage for males[52][53][54][55][56][57][58][59] and some advantage for women in later life.[60] Other studies have found that the male advantage disappears when adjusting for socioeconomic factors.[61] T…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/14 09:17 PM
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What is happening with all the blue gradients? My eyes are melting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/14 02:35 PM
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Except recent tests show that the average IQ of men and women are the same..........
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/14 02:31 PM
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I am rather similar and then I saw your next post mentioning ADHD. Maybe that is why my response to adversity is similar to yours...I hyper focus and neglect other areas in my life. Recently had to do some major stepping-up at work, getting sick of my own situation and self-pity and sort of threw myself into work head first. I had to rethink my organization methods and really turn that around. I did well, actually, caused some real positive change in the company (which benefited my coworkers) an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 07:10 PM
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This is interesting as I feel like my situation is somewhat similar to the scenario except I am a woman and there is a slight chance I could get pregnant therefore I have an IUD. Mostly though? I do not want children. I could not be with a man who wanted biological children because I do not want children but also because even if I did change my mind (which I would not) the chances of me getting pregnant is pretty small. I have never once in my life had a pregnancy scare and I admit to somewhat "…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 02:32 PM
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Depends on if he's a fast learner, and communicates well. I think there would be hope!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 12:31 PM
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BUT SOCIETY WONT LET ME FULFILL MY URGE TO RAPE A CHILD! WAAAHHH! FEMINISTS!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/14 09:37 PM
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Sounds good, I appreciated this exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/14 07:30 PM
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So, I am talking in real black and white terms here. Obviously, I would take into account different backgrounds and circumstances. Anyway, what I am trying to say is that if I am looking for a long term relationship, I would be weary if my boyfriend or girlfriend has had a string of relationships that lasted no more than a couple months...very concerned. I would wonder if they actually want the same thing as me. Sure, people grow and change and age depends a lot on this but dating and sexual his…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/14 07:06 PM
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Any guy or girl whose numbers (and values) differ wildly to mine, I would not date, mostly likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/14 04:42 PM
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Hah! The drama kids were having so much sex. Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 10:17 PM
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...and the nerdy girl is the super model in glasses...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 10:16 PM
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In high school? The asshole jock with the asshole cheerleader. Us geeks were having sex with each other though too...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 10:15 PM
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George Clooney is looking a bit haggard now. I think he hit his peak a couple years ago. He's still attractive, yes, but you can see age has caught up to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 11:10 AM
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Except that the numbers show both men and women marry those within a couple years of their own age. Even the "wall" graphic posted a couple days ago showed that women find men the most attractive the closest to their own age that they came.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 11:07 AM
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Are average looking women who do cosplay also constantly swarmed? I thought that was a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 11:00 AM
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A housekeeper who comes once a week helps... The less work either of us have to do once we get home from our jobs (and our work schedules are the same although I do more projects and he's more social) we don't want to do any more work. More time and energy for sex though. Not having kids help but that's not what you're asking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/14 03:19 AM
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I'm right there with you.... When my boyfriend is doing the dishes, I feel relieved! I hate the dishes! He's still manly though...not sure what his manliness has to do with getting shit done around the house...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/14 03:16 AM
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Thanks for contributing to this discussion!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/14 12:21 AM
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Totally agreed. I also found it interesting that the second graph, the ages women are and the ages of men they are attracted to, are all men of the same age as them, for the most part. So while 40 year old men may find 20 year old women the most attractive, the 20 year old women find 20 year old men the most attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/14 12:12 AM
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You may want to believe that women need to talk to you first but before that even happens, they judge you on your appearance. They might have to talk to you to determine whether they want to fuck you or not but appearance matters a lot more to women than men want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/14 12:00 AM
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I somewhat agree, but I just don't think it is as hard and fast. I talked about it a bunch last night with my boyfriend and he said some interesting things. He felt that that peak (didn't call it a wall) for looks, hits women and mid-30s and he felt for men it was 40, basically when he would start to notice wrinkles. He like me, was a late-bloomer, we both saw photos of us when we were in our early twenties and we both felt we are better looking now. Another interesting thing he said to take int…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/14 01:31 PM
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I would think that one is the cause of the other. That the sex that has to invest more in the offspring either through care or child birth, has to be the choosier sex. Basically what you said just arranged to show cause a little more clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/14 01:15 PM
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This probably doesn't add much but I wonder if guys have a good idea of what age women are. So many times guys think I am 22, 23, 24.... on top of the fact that I was not really pretty till I was 26. Under that age, I looked very baby-like. I do feel that my face looks better as I get older. Maybe that is because my mom is aging so well. I have to wonder about these dudes that think there is a wall...are their moms just so haggard?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/14 12:47 PM
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Ahh you're right. I took Red Pill as a set of beliefs, so Blue Pill as being against those particular beliefs. I think because of the word "identify". I see what you are saying though. Yes, I do post in TBP. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 02:51 PM
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In the context of the survey, I checked "blue pill" because it's easier than the answer I gave you previously. You do understand why in the context of your question I say I do not "identify" as blue pill, right? It's not an identity, that's why. It's like saying I identify as "not a scumbag". It doesn't really mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 03:10 AM
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Because "blue pill" is a phrase made up by red pillers to describe everyone else not initiated to red pill which is every single person in the world but them. I do not identify as "blue pill" because I feel like the labeling is bullshit in the first place. Of course, a person subscribed to the Red Pill might call me "blue pill" and that is fine. To me it is sort of like my parents religion. Everyone in the world, not in their religion, is "worldly". It is a mean-spirited word. It doesn't sound m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 09:39 PM
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Kind of I think... My brother and I were close in age and because of that, we played a lot together and we had similar hobbies. We both were into computer games and played a ton of starcraft together. We would beat each other up as well as band together. We grew up in a religion that really seperated the genders and was very patriarchal. Having a brother that was of similar intelligence, similar abilities and similar interests really showed me that my genitals should not matter, in fact, I was a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 06:55 PM
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It's number of partners per year so it's less important. Although I think age is still important.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/14 12:32 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/14 12:29 PM
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I will say that first dates, I have not paid for many of them but only because the guy would refuse to allow me. I have offered every time. I have noticed that for the first date, a guy will insist on paying and almost be offended if I insist on paying for myself or both of us. And we might be in different social circle types. I have noticed from reading comments here that my social circle is certainly different. It's made up of mostly creative types, and successful in the creative field too whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/14 11:05 AM
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It is no problem, I am older than 25. And I agree, things are different depending on age groups. I think it does help that my age group is that of people who have established careers, have settled in to where they are going, have a reputation in the community for their work, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/14 06:13 PM
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That makes sense, if it's someone you're having casual sex with and not tricking them into thinking there is a chance for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/14 11:03 AM
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It is the goddamn mustache-nose-glasses combo. Gets me every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/14 12:57 AM
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Definitely not 100:1, that's quite the exaggeration. I do believe you though that the ratio isn't 50-50 not even close, I see that all the time, but I also see it shifting. Like I said, at least in my age group and social group there is a shift, I think my social group is a bit modern though. Anyway, it isn't just dates, friend-dates, lunches, that sort of thing the rule applies, and even still, no matter what, the person being asked should always always offer to pay their way!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 11:40 PM
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I think you're a few steps ahead here. I am guessing that way before vows are taken, the couple finds out a ton about each other beyond "they are not abusive jerks" that would cause them to fall in love with each other. I mean, for me to even think of dating someone, knowing they are not abusive is sort of step one no-exceptions sort of thing. The next criteria would probably be "am I attracted to them physically?" and "do they have a good relationship with their family?" and "is this person dep…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 11:30 PM
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I have dated so many international spies though! Surely they weren't lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 11:22 PM
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I get that men still pay for a lot of dates and stuff but that really is changing. The rule with most people in my social circle (men and women) is that whoever does the asking should expect to pay for the meal but the other person should offer to pay anyway, and this goes for both romantic dates or friend dates...I take my friends out on friend dates all the time and I usually will pay because I seem to be making more money than my friends right now. I guess it depends on the social group and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 11:20 PM
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Not being physically abusive is the least a person should be. That shouldn't guarantee them a fucking mate though. That goes for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 11:08 PM
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I am talking about women, not hamsters. If a woman asks a direct question, she is probably looking for a direct answer...I know I would. I mean, unless you are fucking hamsters perhaps but they mostly squeak. In all seriousness though, I can understand that a person can have strong feelings for another person while still wanting to fuck other girls, I get that, I don't operate that way, but some women do...wouldn't you rather fuck women that at least get that? Instead of trying to dance around t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 10:51 PM
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Hah good point. But if that is the case, why not just be honest? Why dodge direct questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 06:17 PM
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Why dance around an honest answer to a direct question? I mean, nothing wrong with "no, we are not exclusive". Honestly, I would take an answer like yours (to a direct question) to be sorta sketchy and probably just drop the dude because who has time for games?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 04:03 PM
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I think that is a good thing to say but knowing myself, I would probably ask for clarification, I would ask "so does that mean we are not exclusive?". Would you still be honest then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 03:07 PM
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I wretched a little at that picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 03:52 AM
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Agreed....those are my tastes too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 03:50 AM
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Seriously! I love cooking interesting foods and most men I date are great cooks themselves and usually involved in one way or another in the restaurant community. Not to mention I love to go to new and interesting restaurants all the time....I couldn't deal with a guy with food issues. And with my love of food I am not fat (because the food I do eat is healthy, whole, mostly local even). Plus you know, the fact that we sorta need food to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 11:04 AM
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Is there a point you are trying to make? The whole flailing around trying to sound clever and insulting me is sort of failing. Sorry bro, negging doesn't work on me and I don't go for the skeezy wrong-side-of-the-tracks type anyway. Good luck though!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 07:30 PM
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Yes, even though that "kind badass" you're attracted to has a list of felonies as long as his arm and has been in and out of prison repeatedly but "he's really a great guy deep down", right? I was replying to this statement you made. Follow?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 07:07 PM
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That's not what I was accusing you of. Who cares if you state I have a boyfriend? What you said that was my boyfriend was a felon. So yeah, you never stated I have a boyfriend or not, you stated that my boyfriend was probably a felon because that would affirm your assumption that women are attracted to bad boys. Well, my boyfriend is not a felon and I have never dated a felon. You got it now? Should I type slower?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 01:24 PM
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You literally assumed my boyfriend is a felon This is what I said. You assumed my boyfriend is a felon. I think the reading comprehension might be your issue, why would I accuse you of saying I have a boyfriend? that makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 07:02 PM
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Yes, even though that "kind badass" you're attracted to has a list of felonies as long as his arm and has been in and out of prison repeatedly but "he's really a great guy deep down", right? The above.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 05:45 PM
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You literally assumed my boyfriend is a felon based on your assumption that women go for that. You were wrong on several levels...what's that thing about making assumptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 05:19 PM
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Yes. Well, because you assume dating guys with felonies is actually a thing. It might be a thing for women who probably have a few felonies themselves... I just assume maybe the people you surround yourself with are trashy since you seem this is normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 11:03 AM
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haha um...no my boyfriend is a community leader and has founded a sober house. We regularly donate to the arts and we both have very good careers that we enjoy. So...yeah your assumptions are a bit off-base. He isn't just a "great guy deep down" he is a great guy through and through. I've literally never dated a dude with felonies and you sound skeezy if you think that's normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 07:35 PM
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A bad boy can be a badass but still treat people with kindness. They can be confident and still not treat people like shit...so yeah a bad boy can still be a nice guy. I like the badass type and I would never date a douche who is an asshole to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 06:06 PM
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And child support depends on the state and who has custody of the kids. My boyfriend and his ex wife have 50/50 custody of their kid so neither of them pay child support and they split expenses like dental care or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 12:59 PM
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Those are not based on gender, it's based on income disparity. For instance, my boyfriend and I made very similar incomes, I would not be awarded alimony if we married and divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 01:58 AM
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Same thing I would get from him out of a marriage that I wouldn't get myself. Companionship. Of course, we get that from being in a long term relationship and not just marriage... Both he and I already have great jobs, lots of friends, a social life, hobbies... But we truly enjoy hanging out together and our relationship feels effortless. So together we add friendship and fun sex on the regular.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 01:51 AM
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A partner with a similar relationship background to me is preferable. So, experienced with LTRs but nothing that shows a pattern of really bad decisions (and we all make bad decisions when we are young so even that part is a gray area). As long as my partner and I are on the same page. I don't think my numbers matter and I don't think my partners numbers matter either. Extremes in either direction will raise questions though. It also depends on age. Obviously, an older man or woman will have hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 03:29 PM
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It's sad it needs to said, but yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 11:03 AM
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Aren't women with college educations less likely to divorce though?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 12:34 AM
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That's the definition of projection. Because you redpillers would do that you assume most women do when it's just not at all true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/14 11:11 AM
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I have, so yes. He has to be doing something interesting though. Pursuing his art or something, or I am supporting him because he is injured. I prefer relationships that are equal. I would never expect a man to support me financially 100% unless I am adding something of value to the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 09:50 PM
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So, would you date a man who makes less than yourself? Would you date a man who wanted to be a "house husband" and stay home and take care of the kids? Would you marry him? Would you support him financially your whole life? You say this like it would be surprising if she did... I mean, I have dated men who made a ton more and men who have made a fraction of what I made. Is it really that hard to believe that a really large amount of women want to have a decent enough job to not have to depend on…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 09:40 PM
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Well, making sure a girl took care of herself and went to the doctor would apply for most any sickness that required a doctors visit? Pretty much most women especially from college-age and on go to their doctors on a yearly basis just to be on birth control. I would think.... That's the only way to get birth control in the US anyway (of the hormonal type or that needs to be prescribed). So, it's not specific to mono, right? I see what your saying about taking their medical history into account t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 11:37 PM
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Well, you don't carry mono like HPV, it doesn't last 3 years. It last a few months though, and one is pretty damn sick during that time so probably not in the dating mood... And how you handle mono is pretty much exactly how one handles the flu or a cold that lasts for three months, you wait it out and get a doctors note for the classes and work you are going to be missing. How does one handle mono in your mind? What do you think mono is? I mean, I am going by my personal experience, as I got mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 10:00 PM
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I don't think you know how mono works.... It's not an STD or something you get only from kissing. You sound like my mom who freaked out when I got a UTI when I was 12 because she truly thought it was something you get from sex. Yikes. Correct me if I misunderstood though. You would actually be concerned if a girlfriend of yours had contracted mono in the past like it says something about her?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 09:33 PM
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I thought you were going somewhere else with that idea. It's intriguing. I find oral sex to be a lot more intimate than PinV sex and really, just a part of the entire sex experience. So at first, I was right there along with you, but really, without your second paragraph, I would agree with you completely. Because of my views on oral sex vs P-in-V sex, the numbers of men I have had oral sex with is a smaller number than the men I have had sex with, and those numbers overlap almost entirely too. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/14 09:29 PM
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I see! Ok, I was thinking traditional gender roles were part of it but if you meant taking marriage seriously then carry on!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 11:12 PM
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You don't have to have "traditional values" to stay married. My parents have been married for almost 40 years and they see each other as equals. My mom handles the finances because she is simply better at it. Both worked hard for their livelihood (now they are both retired and enjoying life). They are extremely egalitarian as far as race and gender are concerned...despite being in a fundamentalist religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 08:39 PM
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I feel bad for the red pill men in this thread...to distrust women so much they actually believe that women don't love (or love "differently"). In any event, I can't prove that I love, just tell you that I do in fact love my boyfriend. That we have both made sacrifices for each other and we see us getting married soon. It's actually a bigger risk for me to marry him, since we both make the same salary I am not after his $$, and he has a kid, and more debt than I do. In fact, I just lent him a la…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 11:19 AM
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Your mom was an exception. In fact, more men leave their ailing wives then women leaving their ailing husbands. If that is your standard for love, then that should prove to you that most of the time, it is women who love their husbands more than men loving their wives. Can men love?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 10:51 AM
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I like it! It's cute!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 06:54 PM
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You feel like a fat but cute unicorn? Or that the purple pill is a fat and cute unicorn?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 06:31 PM
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You have a point. But not it makes it seem like the nerd purists are totally being hipster nerds...they liked it before it was cool, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 05:22 PM
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Wouldn't that be more a union and workers rights thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/14 06:00 PM
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The more I read reddit the more I realize that my social circles are probably very awesome. I probably should never move to a new city. Anyway, even if the gamers themselves are into their 20s, it's not them I think are being immature, I think it's great they can supplement their income that way. I think what is immature are the people that get butthurt about them. It's just so catty. But you're right, people don't just get automatically mature when they pass their mid-20s. I do see that people …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 11:27 AM
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spot on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 12:13 AM
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It just sounds like something that only happens to highschoolers. Do adults act this way? I mean, I was super nerdy in high school and was not in any way popular or pretty and I was into very nerdy things...but I also was a late bloomer and got "hot" in my mid-20's, and dudes would be like "wow you like [example of nerdy thing]?" and it boggles my mind that people can't get over the fact that people who just happen to not be unattractive could actually enjoy activities and shows and stuff that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 08:56 PM
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such understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 09:01 PM
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2 martinis on a full stomach will get me VERY drunk, not TOO drunk but it is my limit and at that point I will wait a bit to drink another drink to maintain. 2 martinis on an empty stomach will get me blasted, fally-over, spill shit drunk and at that point I have a half hour to an hour to make it home to pass out. I have a lot of experience with this. I am pretty good when I have eaten, to judge how much I can drink but if I haven't eaten anything and am unable to eat anything due to a guy manip…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 07:31 PM
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I am just going to weigh in on the amount of alcohol being discussed. At 5'7" and 120 lbs I am on the thin side of a healthy weight and I am a very healthy eater. Anyway my preferred drink is a vodka martini, not dirty. If I eat dinner then have 2 martinis, I will be VERY drunk, but able to stand/talk/be aware, just be extremely giggly and I definitely would have to stop there or slow it down. If I were to drink the same thing on an empty stomach (and I have before) it is NOT pretty, this is whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 07:22 PM
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Knowing history is important to figuring out who they are. If a guy I am dating talks about how every single ex he had was a psycho bitch...I find that to be a red flag. Could every single one of his exes been a psycho bitch? Possibly, but I would be concerned about the women he goes for, or how dramatic he is, or if he was the jerk. It is important to know if your partner has cheated in past relationships, if they have had bad break-ups, things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/14 02:48 PM
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Yeah, not arguing that. Just the "providing food" part.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/14 07:08 PM
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I am friends with a healthy mix of both but my group skews female. The boyfriend and I have a lot of other couple-friends too. I have a great relationship with both my parents (who also have a great marriage), I have older sisters and a younger brother, my brother is closest in age and so growing up we were the closest. Out of my siblings, I am sort of the diplomat so while they don't have great relationships with each other, they all have great relationships with me, apparently I am Switzerland…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/14 06:45 PM
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Didn't women provide most of the food in the hunter-gatherer societies? I am quite sure that the greater majority of the diet was from the gathering side of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/14 04:47 PM
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I am going to say that there are a lot of men who do not take responsibility for their actions and there are a lot of women who do not take responsibility for their actions. The red pill is full of such men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/14 03:57 PM
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Is there evidence that that's even a thing all or most fat women do? I gained a ton of weight in college and at some point I decided that needed to stop, I stopped eating fast food, I stopped drinking soda, I researched what I was eating and how to eat healthier and I started running. I lost 80 lbs and ended up going from a size 14 to a size 2 in the span of a year. My boyfriend at the time (who was fat as well) was pissed about my "change".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/14 03:48 PM
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The male would be just as "used up". At least they are used up together.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 11:46 AM
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That 20% thing has been debunked time and time again here. Just because you're not getting laid, doesn't mean 80% of men aren't either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 11:45 AM
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Women are lifting but not as much because they don't have to. The weights I lift are a lower weight because I don't have as much muscle to develop as a male. Relatively speaking though, the amount of work is comparable. And I see more women at the gym than men in general. Men care less about their looks and I check out men and women all the time and I see that women are simply more attractive and age better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 11:38 AM
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Do you have anything backing up the idea that men work-out harder than women (in relation to their weight)? I mean, I see just as many dudes WALKING on a treadmill as ladies slowly trudging on an elliptical while I am running 5 miles next to a dude also running a similar distance/time. My point is, women and men putting in the same work look good, and a ton of men and women do not put in the work and do not age well. I am not seeing how it's different between genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 08:57 PM
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Ahh I see what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 02:30 PM
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Looks are still pretty damn important to women...why else would you work out? Looks are VERY important to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 02:07 PM
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Yes I do see those threads, but TRP has this idea that the same thing doesn't work for women... or do they believe that women don't exercise as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 02:02 PM
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What TRP seems to ignore is men age too. The fact is, men and women who work out and take care of themselves will age better but if you don't take care of yourself, whether you're a man or woman, you're not gonna age well. Genetics plays a role in this too, some families age better than others. I never understood why TRP seems to think age doesn't affect men. Some guys my age look like shit. I took care of myself and I went to my ten year high school reunion and I looked so much younger than my …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/14 11:58 AM
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I guess I am lucky. Or things change.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 02:17 PM
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It's not like he can never make money again...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/14 01:37 AM
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I think it goes both ways as well, I am in agreement with you. I tend not to go for guys that would be turned-off by an intelligent women and/or one who earns more than them so I just want to say a big "fuck off" to the guys who do but this study still rings sad to me. All my relationships have been equal, even when there is a difference in earnings/success. I do well money-wise and previous boyfriends have earned significantly less but have been able to provide in other ways, balancing things o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 09:07 PM
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u/damaskrose above has a great rundown of the terrible and common advice get from men... It's funny and sad and also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 02:20 PM
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You realize that her post was showing all the terrible advice that is given to women? Every single one of those are terrible. u/MissPearl above has some great advice though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/14 02:16 PM
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I agree overall, for the most part. I think generally, physical attraction is important. There are a lot of common traits that are attractive to a lot of humans but I do not think its a hard-rule. While I think "one person's 2 is another person's 9" probably won't happen, its conceivable that one persons 5 is another persons 7...some people have a unique look that might not be "classic" beauty but may be interesting. A lot of runway models defy beauty conventions, for example. Another thing to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/14 09:57 PM
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That's unfortunate. Birth control plays a role in that sometimes and of course peoples libidos ebb and flow throughout time. I know mine has gotten better since throwing out the BC pill so who knows how that would have effected a relationship had I got married young (when my libido was non-existent).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 03:49 PM
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I definitely feel that people should make sure they have similar libidos before they get married. It's kind of your own fault if you don't figure it out beforehand and not only that, let sex drive you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/14 12:28 PM
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Well my parents are in their 60s now but I asked them this question when I was a kid. And I have no doubts it had to do with testosterone considering my father is exactly what many would describe as "masculine" both in his career and family. I would say the exception is when there is an off-balance of power. My grandparents on my fathers side were like that and it was weird. Even my brother who is in a very conservative marriage says he sees his wife as his best friend and his equal and they too…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 08:29 PM
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My father and my mother who have been married for 35 years have said on separate occasions that they consider each other their "best friends". That's the model I grew up with, and when I talk to friends, some with parents who have been together that long, some who have not...they still consider their SO as their "best friend". It's the dynamic a lot of us want and hope to have or have already. That's how my boyfriends parents describe their relationship too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 02:57 PM
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Good point but it seems it is even more motivation to want a STAHM (or D) and both are selfish. I guess if I wanted kids, I would totally NOT want to be the parent that stays home so it is best if I want a guy who wants to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/14 05:18 PM
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I know quite a few SAHDs whose wives adore them... It's not common but it's definitely a growing trend. That and I have had quite a few relationships where I earned significantly more than my boyfriend and was basically the breadwinner...while I don't want children, I would have no problem supporting a guy who is doing something he loves that doesn't make a lot of money like a musician or artist, both of which have been situations I had been in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/14 02:44 PM
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I tolerate the way most men date, I do not respect TRPs views on women or dating though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 11:53 PM
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That's not true! Hah
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 11:50 PM
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But when a woman cheats the relationship was already bad, before indiscretions were even made, while men are cheating on their loyal wives ruining a perfectly fine relationship. That seems much less honest or honorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 03:25 PM
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If that's true, that makes it sound like mens reasons are worse than women's reasons to cheat. At least when women cheat its in a bad relationship they are going to leave. It is more predictable too, so if your relationship is going down hill, you can at least try to improve it before the cheating happens. But men are just cheaters that you can't trust even when the relationship is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 02:41 PM
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I think I have slept with slightly more bisexual (and definitely lesbian) women than you and they weren't really into pounding. As for myself, I'm with u/SpaceWhiskey on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 01:23 PM
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You might be. Heh
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 01:20 PM
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I think nets are a better method.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 02:39 AM
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I don't think that's my experience but that is interesting... I'm in a LTR with a guy so ya. Also it kind of contradicts the stereotype that bisexuals are sluts (which I also don't find to be true in general). Having been with lesbians I can't say the sex is slower....maybe more sensual, I can see that actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 02:38 AM
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Could you elaborate? I mean I have heard all the stereotypes but I am not sure I have heard the "sensitive to getting cock pounded" yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 10:55 PM
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I am a bisexual woman and have dated women, I have not baited or hunted them, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 09:54 PM
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Well, I'm a 31 year old woman but that's where your stereotype ends. I don't have cats, I have a dog that I've had for 10 years, I am in a stable relationship and I am not unattractive nor overweight. I seriously do not like cats but I DO like your posts because they include hilarious images.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 03:32 PM
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I love that joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/14 06:34 PM
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Why not just tell the gay people that hit on you that you are straight? Be friends with them, maybe they can be wingmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/14 03:39 PM
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That type of stuff is low-level manipulation, but certainly not in the sense of what most people consider manipulative. I certainly would never consider a person manipulative for that but I see what you're saying about it being technically manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 06:54 PM
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That makes sense, I don't even consider your assessment of the situation to be manipulation. It is in a very low-level way, but yeah that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 06:53 PM
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Thanks for your reply. I would be in agreement with you. I think machiavellianism on its own isn't a bad thing, in fact, I can see it as useful. I would say that my boyfriend has those qualities in that he can read people very well and manipulate people and the situations and that's probably why he is an exceptional sales/business developer... but I would say he "uses those powers for good" because I wouldn't call him manipulative but he could wreak havoc if he wanted to, he doesn't though and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 02:47 PM
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Can you give an example of how you work people to get results you want that are to others advantage?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 12:15 PM
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Do you think high scores indicate one is a broken or disturbed person?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 12:10 PM
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Also, I thought in general, humans have a tendency to stay away from those with sociopathic traits because they are bad for society? But empathetic people are targets for sociopaths (which explains my earlier relationships).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 03:28 AM
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I want to know if it's worth it. I mean, plenty of nice dudes get laid, so is it worth it being a terrible person to get slightly more pussy? It makes no sense to me....maybe because my scores are so low. The thought of manipulating people makes me sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 03:25 AM
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Question, would you consider these numbers something to be proud of? It seems TRP does put the dark triad traits on a pedestal of sorts. Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 01:16 AM
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I thought it was on a scale of 0 to 4 so that makes your 3.1 pretty high.... For instance, I got 1.3 on that which put me at the bottom 7th percentile. You're not a psychopath though!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 01:09 AM
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Narcissism: 1.3 (7%) Machiavellianism: 0.9 (3%) Psychopathy: 0.9 (3%) I guess it's on a scale of 1 to 4?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/14 01:07 AM
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I was pretty lucky, my mom was Italian and cooked great Italian dishes, and my father loved to cook too, and spent time in Thailand and so I got to eat a ton of great Thai dishes growing up as well. Aside from the super strict religion, life was pretty good :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 08:39 PM
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TIL I am a choice maximizer. I will read every review and comparison shop on basically every item I buy to buy the best one and be pretty confident about my choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 08:32 PM
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My parents are pretty egalitarian despite subscribing to a very strict religion that follows the "man is head of household" policy. My father is awesome but he can't lead a household. He was the breadwinner for sure but the money went right to my mom to handle because he did not make wise decisions...my mom is smart as a whip and a problem solver. She was the go-to person in a crisis, she was level-headed and reasonable and just knows how to fix things. When I have a problem, I talk to my mom...…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 08:29 PM
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TRP doesn't care too much for educated women but there's this: "women with more education and better economic prospects are more likely to delay first marriage to older ages, but are ultimately more likely to become married and to stay married"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 06:03 PM
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Most of us are automatically banned from RPW.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/14 12:28 PM
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Most people I know, male or female, sowed their wild oats in their early to mid-20s and have or are settling down now. Most are married to people very close in age. If you take care of yourself, you age better, that goes for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/14 12:33 PM
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I have a fairly large social circle (or many little intersecting circles) of people known in the creative community. I am a designer who works with other designers, goes to friends art openings, friends restaurant openings etc... My friends are career-driven but not money-hungry but certainly do well for themselves. A very good mix of men and women, single and couples. Quick profile of my 10 closest friends: Single male restaurant owner, 30s, successful (opening a 3rd place while working on a hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/14 10:46 PM
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It's not that I truly think women are all this homogeneous kludge that act in unison, but from my experience, when all my relationships turn out the same way, so much that I hear similar phrases from the women I date, and get the same reactions.. you start to wonder- are women unique? That one is easy, the common denominator in your relationships are not women, its you. You might be attracting a certain type, or that's what you go for. I am not surprised at all that you find similarities between…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 10:04 PM
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How so? I am having a hard time with this discussing because I am defining blue pill as everyone else who isn't red pill. So that would mean that all my recent LTRs, if not most of my relationships have been with blue pill men. My current boyfriend is what I described as "ruggedly-soft"...hes rugged and handsome, assertive and hes a successful salesperson which needs a lot of assertiveness... he's kind to me though, left a card on my pillow last night "just because". My last boyfriend was rugged…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 09:27 PM
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I can definitely empathize with your feelings on that, we all go through similar things. I guess what I am trying to say is that even though I understand, it is still an extreme and irrational view to have, to hate an entire gender, just like it is an extreme and irrational view to have against black people based on an experience with a couple black people. I can empathize with your process of working through that but I just very much disagree with the outcome if the outcome is hating an entire …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 09:15 PM
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I personally do not think people should be hating other people, but rather, hating a philosophy or believe is another story. So for me, I hate bigotry, and that is a lot different than hating women. And maybe for you, you might hate feminism and while I would not like your opinion, it is very different from hating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 06:40 PM
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So you feel that hating women is just like hating bigotry? or mosquitoes?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 06:33 PM
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Hatred of women is different than hatred of bigots. One is a hatred of a large population of people born a specific way...the other is a hatred of a person for their opinion or belief. Hatred of women is more similar to hatred of blacks, not bigots.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/14 01:32 PM
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That sounds like a masculine women can be masculine then and that's redpill. I mean, of that's the shoe she will make fit, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/14 12:01 AM
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Claiming that what works as redpill strategy is useless. There is nothing to argue with that because that statement is ridiculous. A well-adjusted wife is repulsed by asshole coworker, ends up sleeping with him. What is this? What does this even prove? If you subscribe to the red pill, I highly doubt you are a standup person. To me, a good person is someone who doesn't live their life actively hurting others, who is honest and kind. I do not know how someone who subscribes to redpill can be any …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/14 08:28 PM
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The type that go to clubs, who "pump and dump" and then bitch about sluts. All that matters are looks, not personality, not intelligence because to that type, those things do not matter when it comes to women. You believe all women are whores, hypergamous, over-emotional and you value personality disorders, the "dark triad." That's the type. And that type will only attract shallow women which is all fine but then you guys seem to go back to TRP and complain about the qualities of shallow women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/14 08:22 PM
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I really really doubt it. I don't think you understand how repulsive your type is to most women. Yes, there is a type of woman that is into what you guys have going on but it's not a lot, and certainly no one well-adjusted. And most men think your type is insane and/or pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/14 03:17 PM
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I like this sub although it's frustrating as hell....and I think you're a great mod, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 03:33 AM
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I am confused, in the marines, are people ranked by strength? I am confused by the use of the word "subordinate".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 06:09 PM
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No it doesn't because its not hatred that has infiltrated a lot of feminism by any stretch, where most of the monosphere is riddled with hatred of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/14 04:33 PM
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Femen is your example to compare? Really? Try again. Feminists do not agree at all with Femen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/14 09:39 PM
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It isn't widespread. I don't understand the hatred either, but it just feels like it is concentrated in the manosphere. Outside of that are many many many men and women having healthy relationships with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/14 02:45 PM
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Using your husbands definition, what the OP posted shows that at least when it comes to a sick partner, women are more likely than men to act honorably.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 06:05 PM
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This is very circular reasoning. The OP basically shows an example where men have less honor and you are simply saying "no, men have more honor because I believe it serves an evolutionary purpose that they have more honor".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 06:01 PM
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No. It's an ability and it's about understanding. "Ability to imagine oneself in another's place and understand the other's feelings, desires, ideas, and actions."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 05:54 PM
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Yes that's it! I could not find it for the life of me. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/14 12:35 PM
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Where did the post about the divorce rate of ill women vs the divorce rats of ill men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 12:40 PM
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I don't know if it's anti-social behavior, cause I've only seen that with multiple guys together. Which could be a cause for concern. I can understand that. So it seems you would be ok with someone walking up to you and saying you're beautiful. Versus telling the whole entire world, right? Not always, but I certainly wouldn't feel harassed by it. That happens sometimes, and my reaction is very dependent on the situation. Here are real life examples: A guy who isn't even in the realm of my "type"…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/14 06:07 PM
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If he is driving by in a car, I doubt he cares about actually having sex, if he was he would try a method that actually works better, I don't know... And yeah, I would feel unsafe because he has already shown himself to be a man who doesn't give a fuck about a womans feelings and has put his own feelings above everyone elses and acted on them, why would I trust him to not push boundaries? Not only that, he has shown anti-social behavior which is definitely a red flag. Also the fact that for him …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/14 05:43 PM
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As a woman, yes, I can tell you that someone, anyone, yelling out a window at me telling me to suck his cock or that I have nice breasts or whatever, yes that is sexual harassment. It makes me feel small, singled out, unsafe and embarrassed and it was probably meant to. His intention doesn't matter though because he does not care about what women actually think about it. But yes, it is sexual harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/14 05:00 PM
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My parents have been married 38 years, a very equal partnership and they have been a huge influence in my relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 12:32 PM
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I can totally agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/14 01:14 AM
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Obama only wants feminized men to be healthy? Only feminized men wear pajamas? Obama wears pajamas? I will just go with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 11:29 PM
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But that doesn't conform to the narrative I am trying to subscribe to!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 06:12 PM
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It looks like a silly Christmas ad though. It can't be compared.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 05:48 PM
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Oh come on, these can't be compared. A dude in pajamas vs a military propaganda poster? I am guessing even the manliest of men don't look like such when they are drinking coffee in their pajamas. All I can do is look at both images and conclude that both men are attractive, that's it. Nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 05:27 PM
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This is in incredibly good answer that I want to see some redpill replies to. I pretty much was going to say the same thing. I think one thing I wanted to add, and which you already answered but I am interested in what other people here, namely redpill people, consider to be feminine and masculine traits. I would answer the way you have above which to me means that a more "feminine" society is important to an already formed, large society where we all have to get along and a more "masculine" soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 05:21 PM
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Did you know pink was seen as a manly color and blue was girly? It was only in the beginning of the 1900s when a marketing effort changed that. Tights used to be worn by men, high heals were definitely seen as a mans clothing, wigs, etc. Fashion is truly dependent on culture, it's subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/14 05:04 PM
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I had a boyfriend that refused to let me walk on the street-side of the sidewalk. He also refused to let me pay for meals but...he was poorer than me by a long shot, and I had previously enjoyed eating and drinking a cool places all the time. So if I wanted to go out somewhere and he couldn't afford it, it meant we did not go out at all. So his chivalry made me a lot less happy. A lot less.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 06:39 PM
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Because that's how men treat each other? They just punch each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 06:33 PM
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I hold the door open for the person behind me or if they have their arms full and stuff, it's just the nice thing to do. I also expect to pay for dinner when I ask someone out, be it my boyfriend, a friend, male or female (most of the time people pay their own way but there have been a LOT of times I paid for my friend or a boyfriend). It's what polite adults who want to be social do. When I am asked to go out, I will always offer to pay my way, sometimes they accept, sometimes they don't. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/14 06:25 PM
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I'm afraid to answer this... But I will give it a try. I was in two relationships that lasted about 5 years. In both, I was engaged. I broke up with them for various reasons. They weren't good relationships and I ended them before I got in too deep (marriage). The first one I was too young and the relationship was by all definitions an abusive one. The second engagement was great but he was an alcoholic who felt like he didn't have a problem and I just couldn't stand the fact that he refused to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/14 02:54 AM
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If I were to loosely define RP guy as someone who believes in traditional gender roles, I would have to say I have never had sex with a guy like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/14 07:46 PM
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The actual scientific study is exactly what I meant to present. If you feel you have to make up facts to debate your position that's your prerogative but I am not going to debate with you any further unless you have anything to say with actual evidence to back up your stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 04:48 PM
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I never said that, I am not the one that made up lies. Do you know how to debate? State something and back it up with a reputable source. You did neither. Actually, you outright lied and claimed a source. If you can't debate you shouldn't be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 02:51 AM
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You're reframing the entire thing to fit your agenda. I have sources to back up the claims I made, you do not. You are being irrational. Stop it, or at least list sources to back up your claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 02:40 AM
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The info I posted is on page 1, it's the "results" paragraph. Could you tell me where the info is on the 99% woman initiating divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 02:33 AM
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The first link in that google search is exactly the stats I gave you. That men are overwhelming more likely to leave their sick wives than wives leaving their sick husband. It is saying that when the ill partner is the woman, the rate of divorce when the patient was female is 6 times the rate if the ill partner was the husband. I copied below: "Women composed 53% of the patient population. Divorce or separation occurred at a rate similar to that reported in the literature (11.6%). There was, how…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 02:20 AM
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That's a lot of rationalization to mold the argument in your favor. This still shows that men are much more hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 02:00 AM
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Link isn't working. Definitely need to see a source. And does it matter if the women initiates divorce if it's the man that initiated it with his actions by leaving? It seems like the "initiating" divorce in the woman's case is just a paperwork thing but the man is the one leaving them most of the time...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/14 01:59 AM
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Are you concerned you will lose the ability to pair-bond with a women in the future when you might consider a LTR with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 10:58 PM
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Men are more likely to leave a sick wife where a wife will stay with her sick husband: "A woman is six times more likely to be separated or divorced soon after a diagnosis of cancer or multiple sclerosis than if a man in the relationship is the patient, according to a study that examined the role gender played in so-called "partner abandonment." The study also found that the longer the marriage the more likely it would remain intact. The study confirmed earlier research that put the overall divo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 10:56 PM
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Percent of married men who have strayed at least once during their married lives 22 % Percent of married women who have strayed at least once during their married lives 14 % source Apparently, men are 6 times more likely to leave their sick wives. "The study confirmed earlier research that put the overall divorce or separation rate among cancer patients at 11.6 percent, similar to the population as a whole. However, researchers were surprised by the difference in separation and divorce rates by …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 10:52 PM
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The distinction seems to be based on what suits you, seems a bit solipsistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 10:37 PM
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So that means men still do more of the cheating...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 08:49 PM
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Thats daily mail...so there's that. But it doesn't make sense when statistically, married men cheat more than married women? And that when a man or women gets sick with a terrible disease, men are 70% more likely to leave their sick mate than women are? So hypergamy is as much a man trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 08:27 PM
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Yes, I am with you. I feel very bad for the RP men. I don't know if they are attracting the sort of women that confirms their beliefs, or if they simply do not see the world for what it is... The idea that they believe they could never find a partner with intelligence or an independent spirit, that the women will always be looking to trade-up or doesn't love them...it seems sad and lonely and no doubt they are pushing nice women away with that attitude... Now, there are certain redpill men that …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 08:24 PM
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I don't miss the dating world even though my dating experiences pretty much looked nothing like TRP. I also appreciate my S/O as well as my friends so much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/14 12:32 PM
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My advise to guys wanting casual sex is "be attractive, don't be creepy, ask a bunch of girls". My advice to guys wanting to date a specific girl? It is "be yourself". And yes, it might not work, but I do not care if it doesn't work, if it doesn't work, it isn't meant to. Basically, "be yourself" is the best advice because if the guy is himself and the girl likes that? That's good. And if he is himself and the girl doesn't go for that? That is good too, because they don't have the chemistry or t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 07:48 PM
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My advise to guys wanting casual sex is "be attractive, don't be creepy, ask a bunch of girls". My advice to guys wanting to date a specific girl? It is "be yourself". And yes, it might not work, but I do not care if it doesn't work, if it doesn't work, it isn't meant to. Basically, "be yourself" is the best advice because if the guy is himself and the girl likes that? That's good. And if he is himself and the girl doesn't go for that? That is good too, because they don't have the chemistry or t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/14 07:48 PM
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We all grow and change, that is to be expected. It's weird to be completely fine with a partners behavior enough to be in a relationship with them, and then when finding out about a behavior in the past, be upset they are not doing that thing they no longer do (for their own reasons, I'm sure). That makes no sense to me!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/14 10:36 PM
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Cheating isn't ethical. If you do not want to be monogamous, it is best to be honest about that and find someone who is cool with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/14 10:11 PM
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It hasn't stopped for my SO and I, and in that past, sex has stopped in other LTRs because of my lack of libido while on the pill and because my ex was a drunk. I fixed the external factors and stopped taking the pill and found a no-hormone birth control alternative. I also dumped my ex. Currently, there are no issues between my boyfriend and I, we communicate well and sex is varied and mutually enjoyable (very much so). There is no reason for either of us to not want sex. The only reason one mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/14 05:36 PM
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A kid that is born has the law on their side, no matter the gender of the parent taking care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 05:13 PM
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Penis power? But yes, a manipulative person, whether they are using their words or sex as manipulation is pretty shitting and not a good foundation for a relationship. I find it funny that the OP seems to think that not just only women do this but that all or even most women do this. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/13 03:44 PM
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Well, there are a lot of men and women who both love sex. I know I do, and I do not believe in using sex as manipulation to get what you want, for either genders. There are people that do that, and that's too bad, but I am not one of those people and I do not think I am that special, I don't know any one that would be cool with that relationship dynamic. I wouldn't want to be with a guy I didn't enjoy having sex with!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/13 05:53 PM
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Being a female yourself, you're probably used to and cool with denying guys and brushing off potential sexual encounters. Sexual encounters are much more risky for your gender, so "it's all good if I give this guy blue balls" or if they guy you met wasn't aggressive enough in getting to know you. That's such a bullshit assumption. Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 12:29 PM
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Should they? No, there is no "should". They should do what they are comfortable with. I personally, do not ever want kids of my own, but I have recently dated single dads, my last boyfriend and my current boyfriend. My current has a teenage son who is a very nice kid. I actually like the idea because it means they most likely do not want any more children and wouldn't expect me to bare their kids. I also don't want any baby mama drama, so I pay attention to their relationship with their kids mot…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/13 12:23 PM
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I like giving gifts to my boyfriend because it shows I was thinking about him. If I am out and about, maybe shopping for myself and I see something he might like, or needs, I will get it for him. He does the same thing. We are in this together. I don't see how the "kinds" of gifts would be different between him and I based on gender, its based on our needs and interests though. I make things for people too, that is even more satisfying because I love making things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/13 04:31 PM
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I had a FWB last year before getting into a relationship with my current boyfriend. It worked well, the sex was good and we were honest with each other, we were also very good friends otherwise and would hang out with each other without sex being a thing. We are still friends and in fact I hung out with him on Christmas Eve. We have qualities that make us great friends, not romantic partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/13 12:45 PM
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I would say it is a concern for career-oriented men or women, that it's something they certainly need to keep in mind especially when considering a relationship with someone who demands a lot of their attention. I think there is something to having a relationship with people who are comparably career-oriented when you are at that stage in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/13 12:42 PM
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It's great fodder for a movie, real life emotionally stable people do not make an entertaining movie... It's typical for movies, it's not at all the typical scenario for career-oriented men or women who have their head on straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/13 12:40 PM
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Because healthy relationships are not dramatic or funny enough for movies and sitcoms, because mentally stable people have relationships that are too boring for the average media consumption. What is portrayed in film are dramatic situations, manipulative people, people who do not mean what they say or say what they mean. If I am in a relationship with someone that I really like, I wouldn't tell them to sleep with other women as a test and that they shouldn't listen to me, that's insanity!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/13 12:38 PM
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I think you should not base your relationships on romcoms or sitcoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/13 10:46 PM
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A respectable person is someone who is self sufficient and ethical. To me, a respectable person never acts to hurt another human being and works to better themselves and the world around them even in small ways. I respect people who work hard, are passionate in what they do and have values outside of themselves. This has no gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/13 10:40 PM
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I have only dated one guy in recent history that I would classify as acting childish from time to time. He was jealous, would pick fights and be very needy. I broke up with him. I don't have time for that behavior and it isn't my job to teach people to be adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/13 08:29 PM
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The social responsibilities I already undertake and what I contribute to society more than make up for my not having kids, financially. My not having children is a lot better not just for me but for society. I am flattered that you think society needs more of my genes running around, but on top of the fact that I very much enjoy my hobbies/career/friends sans-kids, having kids would be a type of stress that I couldn't handle. If I did want to have kids, society gives a working, successful woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 08:30 PM
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Maybe but I can't imagine I would ever regret not having kids. There is so much I could do otherwise that would be fulfilling that does not include kids. Does that include working harder? Maybe, maybe not, there are other ways to leave your mark on the world besides having kids. If it's what fulfills you, I think that's great, I don't understand it, but I don't have to because I am not you. From your link, this one is number one: "1. I wish I’d had the courage to live a life true to myself, not …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 08:13 PM
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I have nieces and nephews who I spoil and who love me as well as my sisters and brother if they outlive me, I know they would be there. Just because I don't have children, doesn't mean I will have no one. I also have a lot of close friends. And my boyfriend. It is silly to reproduce just to have someone hold my hand on my deathbed, even if I don't desire motherhood. That to me sounds absolutely selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/13 07:29 PM
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A system that requires people to have more and more children than there will be people getting older isn't sustainable. But besides that, how would relying on one or two children even help? And wouldn't my not having children allow me greater freedom to pursue more financially successful endeavors (and better retirement) while at the same time allow me to put aside all that money I save each month by not having had children? Aside from the fact that I don't even want children I am not seeing how…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 07:03 PM
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Exactly. I'd rather be responsible for my own choices then be beholden to a hopefully benevolent dictator to pay my bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 06:26 PM
1

I don't know how Medicare works so please excuse my ignorance. I also have health insurance. Is Medicare something all retired people get? Is it something I am paying into now from my paycheck? I vaguely remember that breakdown on my paystub.... If so, I think my argument still stands, no? It's something I am paying into now anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 06:18 PM
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Aren't we all paying into social security now though? Am I not able to opt out of paying for it if I don't have kids? If not, why can I not collect it when I am retired? I think it's absolutely stupid to rely on it and depend on it and I truly believe that one should build up their retirement fund, regardless, but doesn't change the fact that I am paying into it now...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 12:27 PM
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Seriously, I have never wanted kids. When I was a child, my brother and I would play "office" instead of house, and I would be a bitchy designer boss. I grew up to be a designer. I did exactly what I wanted. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 12:23 PM
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Too much? If it's only kids I have sacrificed, I am ok with that. I could adopt if I wanted, but I don't and I certainly don't want to have kids of my own. That is something I have pretty much known all my life, I have never felt the need or want to have kids. My boyfriend has a son though, and he's a nice boy, I have no desire for more. The great thing is, because of my career, I can put what I am not spending on children and put it away for retirement. There isn't a population problem, I am no…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 12:14 PM
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No children, never wanted any. Maybe that's why I am happy ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/13 12:20 AM
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When I was growing up in a very religious and conservative household, I was the first of my siblings and the first girl in my congregation to work towards college (and only one of my siblings who refused to homeschool, I instead went to a semi-private school which my parents got a lot of flack for). They did not forbid women going to college but they definitely discouraged it. I was told repeatedly by men and women that I would be happier just to marry one of the fine young men in the congregati…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 10:58 PM
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I never understood the less rights thing as far as combat goes, I mean, most the men in my life have not gone to war and are not planning to. They should get less rights to? Really only my father would be the one with all the rights if this was the case as he's a veteran, but he then left the army and became a Jehovah's Witness who are very anti-war so there's that (but they choose not to vote anyway). I personally do not like the idea of the draft, I think there should be no draft and no divisi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/13 08:05 PM
1

Here are the studies saying that our partner preference may not be hard-wired: http://www.psychologicalscience.org/index.php/news/releases/gender-equality-influences-how-people-choose-their-partners.html Here is the article about the PUAs experience, the author obviously doesn't like the PUA but she links to his article
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/13 01:53 PM
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Well that's certainly different than one night stands for both men and women, the criteria is different, for both. I don't see why there would be a difference in ability to get in LTR. A lot of men and women have trouble finding a partner at that age and a lot do not. I think a lot factors on the area. There are a few top-ten lists for the best places for men to date and the best places for women to date. The best places for men to date will be the worst places for women to date and vise-versa, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 09:46 PM
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I am quite sure a 40 year old women will be pretty good at getting ONS though. And both depend on where one is going for the ONS but I don't see how a 40 year old woman of comparable attractiveness level as a 40 year old man would differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 09:13 PM
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I actually don't think it is even generally true. Not at all. The aging better I bet is if you take a bunch of people who aged well, I have a feeling it would in fact be closer to 50/50 split. I am not even sure where this generalization comes from. I have seen it more the opposite direction but even still I don't make the generalization that women age better than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 08:16 PM
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I disagree. If a lady friend of mine was being a manipulative jerk to some poor guy, I would tell her to cut the shit that it's not healthy (I have done this before). If she planned to continue this I would probably say something to a mutual male friend to talk to the poor dude in the situation to warn him. No I wouldn't send out a million messages of course. I have definitely warned a dude about a crazy chick before too, gender doesn't matter, an abusive relationship is an abusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 05:29 PM
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Which has never ever been proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 05:18 PM
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I see. I certainly see where you are coming from. It's just from the way TRP talks, the wall only applies to men where I see it as the wall applies to some men and some women but then some women and some men age well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 04:06 PM
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I get that your cases work for you but how the hell did you get to the conclusion in the last paragraph? I mean, if your anecdotes make it true to every relationship than how is my relationship explained? I mean, my boyfriend is confident and takes the lead in the bedroom and in some social situations because he's a confident guy but he's also nice as fuck to me. When I ask for things, he does it, there is no domination and really both of us are confident with each other to ask for something we …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/13 03:59 PM
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Aging well or not so well has pretty much everything to do with a persons health and genes and pretty much zero to do with sex. I don't know what women with poor diets TRP hangs around where all women just get uggo in their thirties... As long as you eat healthy and exercise, don't drink heavily and don't smoke, you should do alright...your genes determine if it's an uphill battle or an easy slight incline... I never quite understood why TRP doesn't quite believe that men generally age also and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/13 06:42 PM
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If they are able better negotiate than it shouldn't be an issue, but the ones that are getting constantly rejected-perhaps they are not in as good of a place of negotiation than they thought they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/13 11:53 AM
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Abortion has been around for thousands of years, tens of thousands, even. Natural abortions are a thing, and had been passed down from mothers to daughters in so many cultures and it was only in Elizabethan time period where sharing of that particular information became controlled/unlawful/shamed. Just wanted to clear that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/13 03:18 PM
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And it probably is, because it needs a gimmick to desperately grab at the attention of people. It's a very good sign it is of poor quality. Good design is subtle and difficult to do, and good design makes design look easy when it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 08:39 PM
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I completely agree with you and had nothing much to add on the subject except about color :) I will say this though, in marketing (I am a designer and as someone who works on user experience, interface, packaging design every day...) and when it comes to demographics, using gender is pretty much useless. I base profiles around "people who like this thing and watch this show will most likely respond to..." And "people who graduated from college who love in this part of the country will most likel…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 08:24 PM
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On color: Really only focusing on that even though it's a total derailment but color theory is my thing so.... People who have normal color vision (like, 99% of women and 90% of men, roughly, can see about 10 million colors) do see the same color, they see grass and it's green. It's about how light is. Color is a physical thing, just like light is. Color is either sent back to our brain through the cones in our eyes from either reflected light or light emission. Now, what's really fucking cool i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 06:48 PM
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I think socially, it's harder for men because feminine things are seen as not good, so a feminine man is really looked down on. It seems people are more comfortable it's a woman who is masculine but I wouldn't say by much! If we were talking about a woman doing slightly manly things, that isn't seen as quite as weird because masculine things are generally seen as better. So I think socially, men who want to do things seen as women-only things are more stigmatized, I would say they have it harder…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 12:19 PM
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It depends if you are naturally monogamous, serially monogamous or not. So, no. If i had to say a number, I would say 1,567 is too much. Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/13 12:14 PM
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Perhaps when women can accept men being vulnerable, men can accept women being strong. This is good. I want to say I would reverse the wording, where the other one is cause of the last but even that doesn't quite mirror my experiences. I find I am part of the creative and artistic community so I think generally men and women in my social circles tend to have no problems showing vulnerability, empathy and emotion, and women in my social circles are very cool with that and in fact prefer that. I s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 06:29 PM
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I am not a beautiful woman but this really hits the nail on the head why I get so mad about the constant harassment and it bugs me when people, specifically men say "oh it must be nice to get attention". No, it's not nice. You get hit on constantly by the worst people out there. They'll come at you from every angle. It's like you're a freak, but in a good way. And you just get so tired. You just want to buy some milk. You just want to exist without being hassled by emotional solicitors. You want…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/13 06:23 PM
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Doh! Ok....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 09:41 PM
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I wouldn't even say it's a trend or even a thing. Generally people look for similar values in their partners. A diametrically contrasting partner count is part of those values. Those values are important for people, men and women, who are looking for a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 08:23 PM
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And I disagree and suspect that we maybe have different views on what the characteristics are that make a mutually happy and fulfilling relationship. And that's ok, because what might work for me might not work for you. So all I can say is, if you're happy and not hurting anyone, than I am happy for you as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 08:19 PM
1

I've been in two situations where I really liked the guy, and will pick on one specifically, I had a mad crush on this guy. You could say, he had game or whatever, he was a professor, incredibly attractive, funny, smart, and every person that knew him basically had a crush on him. And for some reason, he wanted to date me and took me out on a bunch of dates in the first two weeks. I'm not one to hold off on having sex but I will if I'm not comfortable and something about him was...I dunno, I fel…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 07:41 PM
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Having the strength to open jars does not make my boyfriend a leader. I'm the one who installed a bidet this weekend and I am the one who fixes his computer and who does any house work involving tools and decor. He kicks ass at cleaning in a faster and more efficient manner and to his liking (which is cleaner than what I am fine living with). He's better with money but my projects bring in a ton of money...which I look to him to manage the business while I do the creative (we make the same $$ mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/13 07:04 PM
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"Beta" traits like gaining knowledge and reading are incredibly important. Heck, there is even a trope about hot women dating a nerd because the nerd will get a good career... In any event, I am not suggesting anyone settle. I am not suggesting men stop going for the hot chicks that are ignoring them...but if these guys are constantly going for women out of their league and getting rejected, the option would be to go for someone in your league. You're suggesting that men shouldn't setting for wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/13 06:02 PM
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Making a sweeping generalization about a specific group of people who subscribe to a very specific belief system, based on the beliefs in that belief system, has a lot more merit than making a sweeping generalization about a very broad group of people based on the sex organs they happen to have. And yes, I have observed the same thing. They get their idea of how people are through ridiculous stereotypes played out on TV and in the movies and then they call that "reality".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/13 09:10 PM
3

The trend here is really only about the type of women you go for and the type of women you feel overlook you. This says nothing about women or men in general, just who you go for and who turns you down. It seems like you are in fact, very interested in isolated cases, which makes sense to narrow down to the specific type of person you are and the specific type of person who are seeking out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/13 09:04 PM
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Is that your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/13 07:37 PM
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If women chased after nerds, emos, book worms, etc, then we wouldn't be having this discussion, now would we? But a lot of women certainly DO! My dating history is almost exclusively artists, nerds, a musician here or there, a farmer, designers, etc. In fact, I don't think I have ever once gone outside my type of partner, which is generally a deep thinker and a creative. Are there women who go exclusively for jocks? Yes, very much so, and I could say that jocks probably go exclusively for that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/13 07:00 PM
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It seems like if you want to accurately categorize people, it would be better to use a standard that has more variables like the MBTI at the very least. I just don't know anyone that fits strictly into the alpha and beta boxes unless they are a made-up tv character. It seems to make more sense than "alphas are this...betas are that..." And especially more accurate than "women are like this...men are like that...".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/13 06:45 PM
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The point is that you shouldn't be forced or confined to your gender roles, but if it's what you want and no one is forcing you, that's cool too! I mean, I am your typical career-minded woman who doesn't want kids but I have a lot of respect for the stay-at-home moms (and dads!) who do that because that's important too. I'm feminist and while I don't feel anyone should be confined to their gender roles, I love wearing (and making) dresses for one thing. If I was forced to wear a dress however, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/13 03:06 PM
2

Even if the effect of one week of ovulation has a small baring on being attracted to an alpha, that leaves three weeks of being attracted to a beta and two of those weeks are still pregnancy-happening times.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/13 06:31 PM
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Source for stats that "men are regularly jailed absent evidence". Or even stats on men being "regularly jailed" for rape, because as far as the stats I have seen, the percentage of convictions for rape and jail time is extremely low.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/13 06:07 PM
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So men are inauthentic?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/13 08:53 PM
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So good!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/13 05:41 PM
3

If that's the case, hypergamy wouldn't be so gendered then, right? And it would make sense that many people are a lot less hypergamous than others. I mean, I can only use myself as an example because I can't read minds but I think my boyfriend is incredible smart and sexy and attractive, but I can acknowledge that there are other men and women out there who are technically more attractive but I am not interested in them. And I am very confident in my boyfriend not dropping me the instant a more …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/13 11:04 AM
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Care to post to scientific studies instead of blogs, like it have done?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/13 10:58 AM
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Well from the way you talk it sounds like you surround yourself with shallow, selfish people. So I thought I'd give you credit thinking maybe it is the age group. It just might be that those are the people you attract and associate with, and that's your prerogative.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 02:20 PM
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"a study". of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 02:24 AM
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I doubt they are all unhappy but maybe they are, I don't know. But they are certainly having sex as evidenced by the brood of kids...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/13 12:01 AM
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I dunno, I know a few models and actresses and actors and maybe its because they are in my social circle they are generally very nice, and smart. One of the prettiest women I know is a PhD, and also very nice. What are the ages of people you generally hang around? Maybe that has something to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 11:52 PM
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A study showing that the more egalitarian a society is, the more that the discrepancies in mate selection between men and women shrink. Basically, when women are more financially secure, they care a lot less about resources of the person they date, and men care less about their mates looks. So moving forward, the discrepancy gets less and less.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 11:50 PM
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A study showing that the more egalitarian a society is, the more that the discrepancies in mate selection between men and women shrink. Basically, when women are more financially secure, they care a lot less about resources of the person they date, and men care less about their mates looks. So moving forward, the discrepancy gets less and less.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 11:49 PM
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Ugly people can and do get sex. I see ugly couples walking about in society all the time, perfectly content with their ugly selves with their ugly partners. It is just that, if you are ugly, you have a better chance if you go for an equally ugly person. Maybe their personalities make them look less ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 11:45 PM
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Here is a study that shows that in more egalitarian societies, mate selection preferences for women become a lot less about resources and the discrepancies between men and women's mate selection becomes less and less
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 11:23 PM
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You don't have to see someone as exactly like you to treat them as equals. No one is exactly alike and I would not claim otherwise. And people tend to be attracted to other people similar to them, be it attractiveness level, class, education. Not only that, but the more egalitarian a society is, the less differentiation there is in preferences. That means, in egalitarian societies, women do not have to think about the resources of a man and so career and salary play less of a role in her selecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 06:42 PM
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Yep. I grew up in a very fundamentalist religious group, closed-off in a way too. I practically escaped just to get to go to college. And then of course I was subsequently excommunication. I would never want to return to that "red pill-like" society!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 04:47 PM
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Putting any demographic on a pedestal is a bad idea but why not treat them as they are at the same level as you are? Essentially you have taken women off a pedestal right into a hole, is that better? Is there is a song like "Bitches have the same struggles as I do some times and we are all on this earth trying to better ourselves and I respect that"? Heh probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/13 03:46 PM
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Yes but in more egalitarian societies or as a society becomes more egalitarian, that changes. As women become more financially secure, they tend to care less about what a man makes. And a man cares less about a woman's looks and more about her brains. And also very interesting, the more egalitarian a society is, the less of a gender gap there is. That makes sense at least for my social circle because my friends, both men and women, are very successful in their fields so do not have to put as muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 04:07 PM
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Yeah and a lot of men are attracted to looks, but that doesn't mean you can't attract the type of person you are looking for and base it on things that are a bit more substantial. I barely know any gold-diggers, certainly not in my social group, as well as guys who date primarily based on looks...I think attraction is important of course but that study hardly paints an accurate picture of the people I am surrounded by and I think if it is an accurate picture of people you are surrounded by it sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/13 10:44 AM
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I don't see how this means that men are not looking for a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/13 08:32 PM
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I don't know either men or women that would say "I was attracted to their career". A man or woman having a good career is just bonus, because no one wants to be in a relationship with a bum. And I have heard many times men saying they want a "partner". You seriously have never heard a man say that? I've never heard "coworker", that seems like odd terminology but "partner" seems closer to what you might mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/13 06:21 PM
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