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The only one of those that would have this kind of data is economic research... which uses data from banking institutions among others.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:48 AM
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Where exactly do you think the US gets is financial and economic data from?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:29 AM
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"A financial survey encouraging Americans to save more money was released in 2019 and exposed that 59% of Americans are currently at risk of homelessness. In fact, they are all just one paycheck away from experiencing homelessness firsthand." https://content.schwab.com/web/retail/public/about-schwab/Charles-Schwab-2019-Modern-Wealth-Survey-findings-0519-9JBP.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 01:13 AM
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I think the 'just get out there' means because that's the best way to meet and comprehend the existence of a variety of people, including the existence of people who want you for more than your career, or your grind, or your muscles, or your youth, or your beauty, or your hostess-abilities. Staying inside, not trying to have normal social exchanges with women and men, not trying to build friendships or connect with people, having very limited or narrow interactions with people of a variety of ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:21 AM
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The things you mentioned, public housing, healthcare, and education is paid for by someone else laying claim to your productive output. It's collective. You're right in that billionaires get the benefits of roads they sometimes loophole themselves into paying far less and smaller percentages than a middle-income person. But having a society that is healthy and housed is a net good. Having a society where people are pressured/forced to date someone they don't want is not. What would you say if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:17 AM
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It depends on the market. For instance, clothing models look different than fitness models look different than the model they choose to sell car insurance. Victoria's Secret still has mostly thin, tall models, but the few plus sizes ones they added are purely so they can get the dollars of plus-sized customers in their stores. Since (US) most women are plus-sized, it's a considerable market.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:11 AM
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I don't think it holds up with the demonstrated fact that most people don't fit into these niches and yet most still end up with someone where there is genuine mutual physical attraction (at least at the start of the relationship). Outside of some arranged and sugar relationships most people get together because they find each other attractive physically in addition to other factors like personality/compatibility). Also people weigh things differently, and there are so many factors that go into …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:10 AM
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I think the unfortunate reality is that taking no at face value guarantees you will miss out on sexual opportunities with women who just wanted you to push harder. Why is that unfortunate? You didn't violate them and you didn't end up with someone who plays shitty games about consent. Win/win.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:40 PM
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I have spent most of my life in the Bay Area and there is still a lot of conservative sentiment when it comes to gender dynamics, slut-shaming, et cetera.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:05 PM
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Better to never get laid at all than to ignore someone's no and find out that it was rape. You don't know if that person is okay with it or not until after they tell you, in which case, after they told you they wanted to fuck you/continue... that would be consent. Someone who lies about what they want in bed or says 'no' when they mean 'yes' is a one-way ticket to crazy town.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:03 PM
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I text people during appointments too.... I was at one today and texted the guy I'm seeing from the waiting room. It's not that unusual. Even if it's work related sometimes you're waiting for everyone to join a meeting, or in a waiting room or a line to see a representative, doctor, specialist, et cetera.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:02 PM
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Right? So many people out there who might be wonderful, decent, interesting, sexy human beings, but when I've been available and looking for dates like some months ago on the apps, I still will reject a person who wants kids or marriage et cetera. Doesn't mean anything negative about them or negative or positive about me...just means we would not be a good fit, healthy, or make each other happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:48 PM
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Romantic and sexual chemistry are too nuanced for it to be an easy blame game. But if someone is hostile and smells bad for example, that's likely the #1 cause of them not dating. Most people who haven't dated yet or been in a relationship who have been actively looking for one are unlucky, but some are actively sabotaging themselves yes. And this isn't gendered. Plenty of women have done things while wanting to date that make them unappealing to people. And those men have every right to say no …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:33 PM
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Exchanging possessions involves another consenting person too??? Hah, I wish, we'd have a lot less wealth disparity. If you're talking about housing though, something like government housing would be owned by people as a whole. And a mutually-beneficial societal service is not a person's body or dating interest. Trying to get people to date who they don't want is a societal detriment not a societal advancement.... and even if it were proven to be so, their right to not participate in an optional…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:28 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:25 PM
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It's pretty unethical to try to 'throw someone off' when dating is generally about getting to know someone. Most people regardless of ideology would agree that games suck and people should not play them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:06 PM
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I looked into it further and it looks like we were both looking at different ranges (you have to match the same year with the same year) and that we weren't accounting for gender (the discussion was about young men). Additionally one of your listed sources doesn't list where the actual data was from and is an organization focused on US suicide, not Worldwide suicide among men. This shows that Japan has much lower rates among suicide in men than the US in men. You have to sort the data for men. h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:05 PM
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He and his cronies said she could do with a good raping, basically, and she indicated in her clapback that he seemed to be insecure about his manhood. How is a clapback against someone teasing rape where you use the same body-language of your attacker an example of body shaming. For instance, if someone calls you a bitch for politely declining their advance, and then calls you ugly. You might not agree that you're ugly. You might not agree that they are ugly. But based on their insult of you, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:47 PM
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Wanting to be ugly just so that you don't get male attention is extreme. Ugly doesn't protect you unfortunately from at least some unwanted attention. I don't think wanting to be ugly is that extreme if the alternative is being harassed, I do think it's inaccurate to say that ugly people aren't harassed. People are harassed sometimes even when the harasser has no idea what they look like yet. aying that you are single by choice doesn't mean you have options, though (Example: MGTOW). No the resea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:40 PM
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Yes young men still approach us even outside the club... I would agree that it's less often than in prior generations it seems though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:37 PM
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Just adding on to this thread for more context regarding the distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:36 PM
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Looks like those figures are old. The US is 31st worldwide for suicide rate. Japan is almost 20 slots lower at 49th. https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/suicide/by-country/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:36 PM
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Most people aren't one paycheck away form homelessness. In the US they are. I have never seen a woman mow a lawn, Go outside more. most men still pay and plan dates, and women still clean more than men. As of 2021 most women and men (near 70% in all ages, and much higher among zoomers and millennials) believe dates should be split/pay for oneself. Most dates are planned collaboratively. If you're dating a woman in her 50s, yeah this is less likely to happen, but still a majority believe in split…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:33 PM
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Or maybe men and women should date however they want, whether that's organically in person, through online dating, or a mixture of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:29 PM
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Movies and tv shows aside, most blind people don't feel someone's faces before they agree to go on a date with them....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:29 PM
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The problem is they're exceedingly likely to become partners, despite these social inefficiencies. I mean, what's wrong with that if someone consents to be with them and enjoys their company? Sometimes dum dums find each other and have a beautiful love story. Sometimes obnoxious pricks do too. It's not up to your or me to judge if they should be together or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:28 PM
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even in professional environments they don't make basic eye contact, Basic eye contact isn't indicative of being a good communicator. In fact, it can be considered rude in some professional and other spaces. Also, one word answers are not necessarily bad communication either. Neither is speaking with an indoor voice. Your examples of bad communication don't seem to be universally bad communication. Plenty of great communicators speak with indoor voices and don't need a lot of words to hold a con…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:27 PM
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It's crazy to me that dating apps seem to be the only way some people try to find partners anymore. They're not the only one they are just the #1 source of relationships and becoming even more common. For example in the US still 1 out of 4 relationships will begin through friends/family social connections and 1 out of 4 relationships will begin through academic/professional social connections at least until the end of the decade. Online dating isn't for everyone, but it is for some people and co…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:23 PM
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"Correct" lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:18 PM
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Oppression would be pressuring someone to be with someone they don't want to be. It's not 'being oppressed' if someone doesn't consent to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:16 PM
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Mostly men pay for and plan all the dates, Really depends on the country and generation. For example in the US over every age range/generation almost 70% of people believe in splitting these costs and responsibilities. That percentage rises if you're dating someone under 45. Most people incur at least small costs while dating, that's one of the many reasons coffee dates are so popular among every gender. There are plenty of brokies out there dating other brokies and laughing about budgeting for …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:15 PM
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Or God help you online dating lol. Online dating is the number one source of relationships in many countries, and only becoming more common as the "place" where couples meet. Some relationships suck, some are great.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:11 PM
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Plenty of people don't fall for sales pitches... plenty of people would never be dodgy in their 'sales pitches' or never date as a sales pitch in the first place, plenty of people end up with long-term partners based on compatibility and both wanting the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:10 PM
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Most women and men (in the US) are one paycheck away from homelessnes and still date each other and that dating usually starts with mutual attraction. Women love gender roles in dating as long as they are the male gender role. Most men and women aren't in a binary of tradition. Even the most traditionalist man might acknowledge his wife is better at repairing fences and he's better at cooking. As long as they both consent to the breakdown of household chores, there's nothing hypocritical about i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:07 PM
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Women pay taxes too. Women work too (some of it paid, some of it unpaid labor). Dating isn't a possession. Dating involves another consenting person. Houses are object with no feelings. Healthcare already has (though eroding) bodily autonomy built into it as well. You do have to render aid, you don't have to use your own body to do so (or shouldn't). Dating isn't necessary to live a fulfilling, healthy happy life. 98% of people date well before retirement age (US), most of them in long-term rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:06 PM
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Because dating isn't required to be happy, healthy, fulfilled and 98% of people date and have relationships who want them decades before retirement age (US). Edited to add: housing involves inanimate objects. Dating involves another person to consent to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:01 PM
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Housing is necessary to survive and is an inanimate object. A house isn't a person and doesn't need to consent. Education as a concept and a system isn't a person. Healthcare is also about bodily autonomy. A dad can't be forced to donate marrow to their dying toddler, even if that's the only way that toddler will survive. Dating isn't a right or necessary for a happy, healthy, enriching life... most of those other things are. One person's freedom and rights ends where another begins. You can smo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:01 PM
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Well certainly some men and some women are socially inept, but there are also people who 'lack meaningful connection' or 'lack emotional intelligence'. Although I think there is a lot of overlap between 'socially inept' and '[lacking] in emotional intelligence'. Women get to be pickier than ever Anyone can consent to whomever they want, regardless of gender but they are not picking personality Most people do need to have someone who has a compatible personality who they have chemistry with in ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:53 PM
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We know that being single for men is almost always not a choice Almost always? On the latest US data wasn't it more than a third of the single men who were single by choice? That doesn't seem like 'almost always' but to be fair I don't know how it is in other countries and don't have their data. For example, I've seen plenty of posts making fun of men who prefer "traditional" type of women or men who make a list of their standards for a woman on r/NotHowGirlsWork That subreddit often has to do w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:47 PM
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Plenty of people, whether fit or not, would turn down a workout date. Or a date where you're focused on your physical task instead of getting to know each other. For safety issues alone I wouldn't go on a nature walk/hike on a first date, and I prefer to go on my walks or work out alone anyway. I could definitely see the hiking date working out for some people (say they met through a moutaineering group) but most people want to be in a relaxed environment where they are facing the person they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:38 PM
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It's also hard to see someone's face across the table if they are hiking next to you or behind you on a nature trail. You miss so many of those important first facial expressions and getting to know them that way. I like to sit or stand across from someone if I am meeting them for the first time, particularly for a date. If you're on a small family trail with families coming down it every once in a while... you're going to be walking single file as nature trails usually aren't wide. So you're ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:34 PM
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Even when I'm in my peak condition I don't want to do anything physical with a date unless we end up making out or something. Not everyone finds it fun, sexy, and a good way to meet someone for the first time by sweating and flexing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:32 PM
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I wouldn't do either on a first date but some would. I want the first date to at least start in a stationary place with staff always within eye view. Even a 'family friendly nature trail' might have nobody pass for hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:31 PM
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Not everyone's expecting their date to have to do something intensive and 'high effort'. I certainly would want a first date to be comfortable and easy for all, not 'high effort' or even 'moderate effort'.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:30 PM
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There's a reason coffee or drinks are the most popular first dates for many places in many hemispheres.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:29 PM
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Why would you want a first date to throw someone off? Or any date, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:28 PM
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Exactly. I'd go on a walk with someone alone in the woods once I knew them for a while, not if the date was the first time we were meeting in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:26 PM
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I am pretty sure most guys would prefer another type of exercising.... I'm a girl but yes the only exercising I'd want to do on a date if it really went well and we were getting physical... and that's rare that I'd do that on the first date anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:19 PM
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I was going to say that a walk in the country to find a nice place to sit and have a picnic could be at least as pleasant for me as a drinks date in a pub/wine bar. Unless they already know you in person ahead of time, most people won't agree to go out alone into the country with a stranger on a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:18 PM
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Most people will not agree to go into the wilderness with you even if it's a 'family friendly nature trail' on a first date unless they've already been friends with you. I certainly will not meet a stranger from online for example anywhere that doesn't have at least a few people and at least one regular staff person/employee (coffee shops, cocktail lounges, et cetera). Some people might be into axe throwing or disc golf. Some are not, either because it's a lot of commitment for a first date, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:18 PM
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If they've been single and trying for years it is unusual/statistically curious after certain ages, but it doesn't automatically mean they are socially inept. Some are shy and just don't get out enough (shy doesn't mean socially inept). Some are just unlucky. Some are in a bad location (live in a small city with mostly retirees or married couples and the few young singles have mostly moved to bigger cities). And so on and so forth. Surely by now we’ve all read of or witnessed enough stories of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:04 PM
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I think it also has to do with a lot of people not doing it in easy view or hearing distance of other witnesses or just other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:55 PM
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This happens regardless. When I was an ugly child, plain pre-teen with bad skin and wearing lumpy, shapeless clothing it still happened. It happened when I was a young teen. It happens even if I'm covered up and nobody knows what I look like. It happens if I'm dressed up or dressed down. If I've been an adult for several years or when I wasn't. It even happens to my mom who dresses like a conservative Mormon and is several decades older than I am when she's running errands or working at the fron…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:54 PM
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They usually do it when nobody (or not a lot of people) are around. I had it happen a couple of weeks ago a block away from a concert, from someone coming in the opposite direction who wasn't at the concert. It was unwelcome and my polite redirection was treated with a scream-shout but at least he stomped away after. I was in the quieter neighborhood of the city, a residential area a block away from the venue, heading toward a cafe. Nobody was around because most of the concert goers were headed…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:50 PM
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It's just not a realistic expectation. I disagree. Healthy couples still maintain a healthy desire for each other throughout the length of that relationship; whether it's 10 months or 10 years, or for the entirety of their adult lives. If it becomes just a friendship and roommateship it's often doomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:40 PM
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Any of your comment previous to this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:38 PM
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Oppression? Well it would definitely be creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:37 PM
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You understand staring is considered even MORE rude in a lot of eastern nations, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:36 PM
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Sure there are cultural variations, but staring and leering are considered incredibly rude in most of them, including most of the eastern hemisphere and plenty of the western hemisphere. Just out of curiosity, if I were to wear a codpiece and people started looking/commenting, am I a victim? Who said anything about victims? I just said the people if they are staring will be likely to be thought rude, inappropriate, and a creep in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:35 PM
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I mean if the voters want to keep it I still think it should be something the couple both consents too and that it doesn't automatically apply. You can still have a legal framework for distribution of property of a couple who has lived together for 10 years and both made payments on the furniture for example, without having it be common law marriage. For instance, in New Hampshire, both parties have to consent and actually acknowledge each other as husband and wife. That's their call in my opini…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:26 PM
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No as in if you take 100 married millennial and zoomer couples (mostly millennials and most zoomers are still pretty young for marriage), and you take 100 boomer couples, and you look at the same marriage time spans... the younger generations have halved the rate of divorce in their generations. The married couples in generations currently under 40 (zoomers, millenials) divorce less compared to the same marriage time frames for couples from older generations. Among the married younger generation…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:21 PM
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Lol how do you differentiate sexual chemistry from sexual lust? It sounds like you're conflating the two. They're not that different, except that lust can be one sided, chemistry implies both of you are into it. Chemistry is mutual. Lust might not be. It's so funny when girls use buzzwords like this without really knowing what they are saying. Well I think we're done here if that's what you really think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:14 AM
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Yeah absolutely. And as I said, probably no more than those couples who both start out wanting children and then one decides they don't, or both start out wanting marriage and one backs out. Sometimes couples don't work out. Usually though if someone's been set about it and clear about it for years (in my case all my life even when I was a child I never played at being mother or bride), they'd be less likely to have a sudden change of heart. I have been a loosely-affiliated member of a Childfree…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:51 AM
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I'd love to get your definition on "sexual chemistry" Wanting to fuck someone and them wanting to fuck you back. Often it's not a tangible thing, it's just what differentiates a friend from a lover for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:47 AM
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ave you found that that dating pool has upheld those notions of childfree and marriage free when in serious relationships? Yes I've had multiple serious relationships and all of them were with childfree/marriage free people. The ending of them didn't have to do with those things either, (one of them got into a cultish New Age MLM) for example, after years of rationality. I know mwnay childfree men and women are crushed when their partner changes their mind and then wants to have children - with …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:39 AM
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I will only date childfree and marriage free people. Exclusively. We're definitely a smaller pool/the minority (if a growing one) but there are still the better part of a billion of us, so ultimately I can still find good matches in this pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:32 AM
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There's a difference between noticing someone is attractive and leering at them. Anyone with social IQ knows the difference and can exercise it, regardless of what their 'biology' tells them. I'm the thirstiest person I've ever met or read about and I still don't leer at people or scan them top to bottom like some creep. I notice them and appreciate them in my environment and act normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:30 AM
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I've already addressed most of those from the last time. Did you copypaste from that person or are you the same one and your last account got deleted or something? I went through one by one and spent waaaay too much time calling out that most of those studies either didn't support your claims, or supported mine specifically. Edited to add: I found it and the other posters who called you out for similar reasons. ""Adolescent romantic relationships promote lower rates of alienation and isolation, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:04 AM
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I don't think anyone was 'slipping', bot. It was perfectly deliberate and mindful. God damn is perfectly acceptable in many faiths and those who do not abide by a particular faith. I guess we need to get bots for those too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:03 AM
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Lmao. Did 'He Gets Us' pay for this bot?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:01 AM
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Men and women take similar amounts of time after breakups before they start dating again so this doesn't bear out. In fact in some US studies women on average take longer than men after a breakup to start dating again... if they have all these orbiters, and men are caught unawares, why do men start dating again more quickly in so many cases? "There is also research that shows women may remain celibate for a period of time after a breakup, whereas men are more likely to sleep with someone sooner.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:00 AM
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If you overlisten any conversation between two or more women, you find that it is almost always about (1) romantic shit (2) ex's and orbiters (3) hot guy from X film or soap opera (4) what partners did for them (5) what dress is the best to look fine for X or Y, etc. Sounds like you need to get out more. While those things are absolutely valid topics of discussion, as someone who has been both professionally and personally in many spaces with women talking both casually and seriously... this doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:45 AM
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All I see is a made up scenario and Jordan Peterson talking about his grandmother's pubic hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:39 AM
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Lol sorry but as much as women (and men) want to talk up the “single life” that shit legitimately gets old and not having a “special someone” in your life is not what most women desire. Nor most men. I can say this as someone who has lived in several major metropolitan areas in the US and has to swipe left on a good portion of the people on apps because so many are either 'looking for a relationship' or 'open to a relationship' and when I've been on the apps I'm only looking for casual. Consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:34 AM
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Each couple is different you'd have to ask them. I'm not interested in marriage but my aunt and uncle adored each other, flirted with each other, were kissy and dreamy-eyed at each other, went on dates together even as they got older and he got fat and bald. Some couples find each other hot even as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:24 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:23 AM
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They dont value the right things in mine. Stability, kindness, responsible..they want Chads who are tall, muscular, handsome, rich, game, swag, has other girls, etc Most people aren't tall or muscular, or conventionally handsome, or rich, or have great game, et cetera... yet most people still get laid, have relationships, and either get married or have live-in partners. Modern day women are so backwards in their thinking and deserve to suffer the consequences of their own terrible behavior. "Mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:22 AM
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Yes and that stops once a human with a penis is involved, women are liberal until their dating standards com up. What are you talking about? Most households, particularly in the US can't even afford a stay-at-home spouse. Both parties work full-time even after moving in in many cases. All they had to do was apply, No they were literally barred from entry until fairly recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:20 AM
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You'd be wrong. It's well documented, studied, and considered. Human connection is necessary to be happy, healthy and live a fulfilled life (for most, there is the occasional happy hermit that maintains health)... but that 'human connection' for the rest of humanity does not have to be romantic or sexual in nature to fulfill that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:18 AM
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Women seem to want to treat marriage as a boyfriend + wedding. Sure women do, and some men. This is why I am fundamentally against marriage. Well I am not into it for myself but it seems lovely for some of my friends and family, I'd never dream of going against their marriages just because I don't want one myself. Vows mean nothing. Sure sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:15 AM
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right now a famous twitch streamer is being sued by his ex girlfriend claiming they were in a common law marriage Okay? Do they have standing? Are they in one of 8 states and in the US where that's a thing? Again, it's not much of a thing if you have to find a famous streamer as an example of it in one of the few states where it can happen to a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:13 AM
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98% of men have relationships with people they like and vice versa decades before retirement age. You think only 2% of men are 'decent'? Overly selective and will destroy a marriage to chase their feels Destroying a marriage would be staying in one where even one party out of the couple doesn't want to be married anymore. It would just fall apart from within slowly instead of a clean break. As far as 'selectiveness' this doesn't make sense. If you truly think women "don't value good men" wouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:09 PM
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I'm in the US, as of 2020 only 8 states out of 50 have common law marriage. Of the other handful of states that used to have it, it only applies to relationships from the 1960s and earlier. It's not much of a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:05 PM
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That's part of it too, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:40 PM
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You can't ask random women out anymore like that in 2023. Have you never been to a rave, festival, bonfire party, singles event, club, house party? Sure you can. If you read the room and are polite and appropriate (which I'm sure you are, most people can be).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:38 PM
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Because sitting around and watching you play video games is not very stimulating for your partner. I mean I could watch my guy play for hours but then we also leave home and go out to eat, walk around, watch movies together, travel...work on our own work projects, hang out in the kitchen together while he cooks.... so he has more to his life than games even though he spends hours per day on a console, heh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:33 PM
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Keep in mind it depends on the venue, its rules, its management, and the atmosphere of that particular party or night but... Bars Weddings Festivals Raves Cons Art Fairs Renaissance Faires Bonfire parties House parties College parties Block Parties BBQs Dances Themed Balls Cocktail Lounges Concerts Food Truck events Sports events Singles Groups Speed Dating events
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:29 PM
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Yes, people here admitting to making the online spaces worse and less trustworthy so they can pretend to be someone else and fuck up a bunch of other peoples' days... and even I regularly on here have had people suggest or try to pressure me personally into pretending to be a man online to see what the dating apps are like from a man's perspective...when I don't need to use this deception or get people's hopes up to do this... the men in my life sometimes share their app stories with me or invit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:26 PM
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What a weird take. College isn't the only path to social and mental development but it is an important one for many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:24 PM
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I don't think he's ugly and I can see him gracing many a magazine, but he's not my type for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:22 PM
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Well not all, but definitely a lot. I agree though, this image is more what a gay guy finds attractive than a straight or bi woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:21 PM
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For it to be fun it takes time. Meeting people, getting to know them a little, seeing if the attraction you feel on the screen (if online dating) translates to sexual chemistry in person. Avoiding/weeding out those who have behaviors that are turn-offs. Finding someone you find hot who also finds you hot. It really depends though. Sometimes this is weeks, sometimes months, sometimes years. I have to feel safe to desire someone enough to have some 'fun' with them so I can't just ask out any despe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:20 PM
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Same... I mean I'm not the marrying kind but even for a long-term relationship, I won't enter into it if I don't have sexual desire for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:15 PM
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Agreed. Roommates.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:12 PM
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For some it's not the only component for long-term happiness but it's a big one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:12 PM
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Women have always looked for men to provide and give them things just for being women. No even in decades past where they weren't allowed into anything except low-paying work for the most part (maids, nannies, laundrywomen) there were women who still looked beyond men to gain things for themselves. But many were still homeless or at the least ostracized and made to be servile to their parents they were still living with if they didn't find someone to marry. Cash and prizes for breaking a one sid…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:12 PM
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Two asexuals can still commit to each other. Two people with low libidos can still commit to each other. Some arranged marriages where she doesn't lust after him and he doesn't lust after her, can work out... but rarely. Usually you need desire... that's what sets a relationship apart from a friendship. Plenty of women have decent sex drives... the point of dating is finding someone compatible with you. High libido rarely works out with low libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:08 PM
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Nobody is owed romance. Nobody has to have romance to live a happy, healthy, fulfilling life. People DO need human connection (and most get it) but it can be platonic in nature. That being said, mathematically it's statistically inevitable that people who continue to seek romance will find it eventually. Usually decades before retirement age, most of them starting within the first decade of their adult life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:06 PM
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None whatsoever. It was come up with by someone whose education consists of Bible schools and seminaries not schools accredited for relationships or related subjects/majors, who has almost no experience dating, whose love languages book is religious (it's classified in genre as self-help but also Christian literature), and who encourages couples to stay in physically or otherwise violent marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:04 PM
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They're based on nonsense and don't apply to most people. They are limited in their scope and the authors have no formal accreditation in any related capacity. It has as much use as horoscopes. That being said, if those concepts help someone, great! Problem is when they meet someone who does not either fit into any of those categories, or does not subscribe to that philosophy, it can then create issues if one person is expecting them to fit in a little category that they just don't. The science …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:01 PM
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The same things I like in any gender. A sense of humor, an ability to communicate, kind to people and animals and not mistaking kindness for weakness in others, someone who knows how to have fun and how to be dedicated... and how to be dedicated to fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:10 AM
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Well when I noted 'any birth control currently on the market' I was including all forms. Either you're using birth control of some kind or you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:06 AM
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Pretty much every single survey out there says more women want to get married than men in Japan. Wanting to get married can coexist with not wanting to get married if it makes you worse off and your life suck. Wanting to get married doesn't mean you will agree to get married just to satisfy that desire. Few people in Japan live with parents after marriage anymore(3.9% of newly marrying couples live with parents in 2011 and it keep declining) it was only common until ~90s Where did I say live wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:46 AM
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When I was in middle school I started to learn about that sweet spot in various kinds of purchases where past a certain dollar amount the quality didn't improve but up until that point it definitely did. For example generally $350 hiking boots are just as good as $1,000 ones but much better than $100 ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:41 AM
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Japan has some pretty incredible nutrition... not sure where you're getting that. Also Japanese women have all different hormone levels from normal range to abnormal range... just as any other nation. Testosterone plays a role but it's more nuanced than that. For instance some people have normal hormone levels and still are more thirsty than any man they've ever known of.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:40 AM
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. If you sure of yourself, in mind and behavior, many women will give you a chance. No I won't give someone a chance just because they are sure of themselves... but yes confidence is a good thing and has a lot of general appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:23 AM
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People whose best times were before 30 are probably just living shitty lives. Plenty of people 30+ are doing cool shit and enjoying themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:23 AM
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What women do you see who have expected sympathy from men regarding 'manspreading'?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:19 AM
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Taxes are supposed to work for the people. The people already paid off the student loans. The government just decided that a small handful of fraud-committing PPD recipients and multimillionaires and billionaires get the handouts instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:19 AM
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It's not even adulting. Most people learn not to harass others in elementary school age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:16 AM
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Most women are well aware even from (sadly) childhood that nobody is going to step in an 'save them from harassment'. Although depending on the place you have a moral and legal obligation to help a child who is being harassed. Most people don't help the child being harassed though. Some participate in it. There's no protection as an adult either, certainly not from men in almost all cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:16 AM
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A pregnancy has more side effects even in best case scenario than a lifetime of birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:13 AM
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None of those side effects are as risky as a single pregnancy though, hence why 90% of women have taken oral bc for part of their lives and 70% use it regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:13 AM
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They are much safer to take for a lifetime than a single pregnancy is for the body. But it depends on the person of course. Some might find better alternatives as far as contraceptives are concerned. Where do you see people pushing the pill on women? I grew up in a very progressive place and still had to seek out, work on, and wait to get them. It's much easier now as an adult but I still have to initiate and perpetuate every little thing regularly. There is not a week that goes by where I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:12 AM
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Some of us do. I have only had good side effects from it for the most part. I continued to take them (with physician approval) even for the years I was never sexually active or expecting to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:11 AM
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A baby puts your life's quality and medical well-being (even if you're not carrying it) at much more risk of detriment than any birth control currently available on the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:10 AM
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No the studies were delayed due to men experiencing... the exact same side effects (and less intense in most cases) as women. Things that are considered a-ok for women but 'too taxing' for men. Don't get me wrong, I want hormonal birth control to be available for everyone with as few side effects as possible but it's rich that the reason they didn't continue some of the studies were that the men couldn't handle what women handle regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:09 AM
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This subreddit is one of many things that keeps gender studies' major working....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:06 AM
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They sure were happy to leave it in for the armed forces though, and legacy admissions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:06 AM
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A group of people in this subreddit considered 140lbs at 5'6" to be 'severely obese'.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:05 AM
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Sure it is. If you're making close to or more than a billion dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:04 AM
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They both consented. Some skinny guys are only (or mostly) attracted to fat girls. Take your pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:03 AM
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You'd be so pissed if we were out there posing as straight men on the apps and stealing all your girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:02 AM
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Women wear these things home alone and also at all girls' parties when they're not even gay. In fact, some of us would actually dress in even fewer pieces of clothing and smaller bits of fabric if there were no straight men around. Some of the top results women provided for the 'what would you do if there were no men for one day' thing was swimming nude, walking topless, walking at night in no bra.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 08:00 AM
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She also calls it an artistic project not a 'documentary', just people in the comments did that but people are putting words in her mouth to try to make her look like she's claiming to be something she isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:57 AM
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https://old.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/14mzvhc/i_interviewed_a_bunch_of_incels_as_part_of_a_film/ She said it was an artistic project... not sure why you said 'documentary'. People in the comments used that word, OP was very clear that it was an artistic project for an art collective. And it didn't seem like she was claiming to have solved anything, she was just sharing her observations...again...for her art project.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:56 AM
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Having to emotionally regulate someone or have someone treating you as responsible for taking care of most of their personal problems. Yes any two people close to each other will generally confide in each other and support each other. But a) it needs to be a two-way street and b) one shouldn't be thought to be responsible for the other's emotional regulation, self-actualization, finding themselves, et cetera. You're not supposed to treat a partner like they are your mental health specialist. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:53 AM
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I don't actually care at all what I look like. Then your only interest should be in looking how you want, hygiene so you're not a menace to anyone who has to be in a room with you, and your own health. And that should be anyone's interest anyway. People who work out, work on style, grooming, et cetera should be doing it to look how THEY want to look, now how they think some potential gf/bf/ef wants them to look.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:50 AM
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Most 25 year old women want to date other people in their twenties.... only at the end of their 20s are some women actively looking for men in their 30s, and only in their early 30s in most cases. May/December pairings exist but are in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:42 AM
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As someone who has been on a few first dates with women of the same age: they can seem really excited and interested during the conversation as well as entire date and then hit you with "Actually I just see you as a friend." Yeah some of us are very interested in our friends otherwise we wouldn't be friends with them. You two having a good, fun, excited conversation together doesn't mean there is mutual romantic or sexual chemistry. Doesn't matter if she doesn't "feel" it. Yeah, that's what cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:40 AM
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When the company is actually someone you enjoy being around, it's never boring....
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:37 AM
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The blood of the covenant can be thicker than the water of the womb. Sometimes the truest dad you'll ever had is a step-dad, not a bio-dad. Sometimes the truest mom you'll ever have is both your mum and your step-mom. There are so many endless variations of family. Sometimes your step siblings are the brother you never had and always wanted. Sometimes they are trash. But good strong loving families can come in all different manners.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:36 AM
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You're denying the existence of hundreds of millions of women. Someone choosing not to be in a relationship doesn't mean they are any less capable of it than anyone who chooses to be in one. And even for the subset of people who aren't good at being in relationships (and this subset occurs both in people who want a relationship and don't want one), it's the more responsible option not to be in one. Asexual people exist. Aromantics exist. People who realized or know they are happier single exist.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 01:57 AM
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Ah okay, if you look up further in this thread someone specifically was focusing on a subset of domestically violent men in Korea.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:54 AM
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Most guys figure out what a woman looks like without makeup the first time they have one spend the night and it usually isn't the make-or-break as far as if he'll see her again or still be attracted. Same with any guy who has ever been on a long hike with a woman (most women at any rate do not wear makeup while hiking). Same with any guy who has seen a women's swim team at his school, or often some of the track team as well. Same as any guy with sisters or mothers at home. Same as any guy who go…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:46 AM
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Someone reminded people the other day that arguably one of the most popular video game characters of all time is a grimy, fat, short, blue collar guy with a high pitched voice. There's plenty of room for memorable, interesting characters that defeat challenges and enemies even if they don't look conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:41 AM
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Considering most men don't meet any of these or hardly any of these conventional attributes yet most men get laid anyway, and most of them before they're even old enough to really have a lot of these attributes it's not as important to the population of women as is said. For instance, someone could like delicate waifish goth guys with eyeliner and also a guy with a big beard, a big belly, broad shoulders and tattoos. Most people date people with incomes similar to them, most people don't have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:40 AM
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They're referring to farmers buying mail order brides. Okay but there are plenty of farmers who do not commit domestic violence. And honestly, if you visit a country unless you are out in the country itself and not the cities where most of the men are, you're not going to run into predominantly farmers. Also a Passport Sister isn't the same as a mail-order bride. Mail-order brides put themselves in an insert expecting to be taken care of and not have a lot of autonomy in choosing a spouse, a Pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:34 AM
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Why do you think all Passport Sisters would go to Korea and specifically try to get with the domestic abusers there out of all men in the country? There are domestic violence rates in every country, if you see your love in a new one you probably (unless you are very unhealthy) would specifically seek out those who do not have a known history of domestic violence. This is such an odd thing to think that Passport Sisters would automatically choose a small subset of violent Korean men instead of oh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:31 AM
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Both of you know that Ashley Madison is waiting for you Cheating has always been an option but (US at least) there is a lower percentage of infidelity now than in any decade prior since it was first researched, and the gender gap is pretty small, only 7%, with a slightly smaller percentage of women cheating than men. Even if you look at a demographic of 20-somethings there is only a 1% difference (with women cheating a sliver more than men). There are always options. The point of a relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:29 AM
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If you're some regular guy looking to get with some relatively attractive member of the opposite sex, you are in direct competition with 35 year old tech millionaires on steroids and unlimited willpower to make up for lost time A teeny, tiny percent of the population. 6'5" 4th generation football quarterback genetic lottery legacies A teenier, tinier percentage of the population Instagram model fitness influencers in town for the month with 8 Tinder boosts on standby A tiny percent of the popula…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:14 AM
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Well no problem then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:43 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:42 PM
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What do the chunk of men of a particular nation who have histories of domestic violence have to do with being a Passport Sister in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:42 PM
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There has never a statistically significant number of men who "really, really wanted a career woman." Where do you come by this idea? A lot of career types are attracted to career types. Having compatible lifestyles and values is often critical to romantic/sexual connection. Never once in the history of the world has a man thought "Damn, she's a CEO. That makes her a 10 out of 10." That's an entirely different argument. Just because some guys are into career women (plenty of them out there, beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 11:41 PM
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<Any girl with more than 100-300 IG followers is undatable. Even if you just have family and extended family on there (plus their spouses and children) you might have more than that. You also need to realize that in some cases social media is also something like a CV/Resume. It can be used for networking. The 'followers' might be others in the business, even if that business has nothing to do with 'influencing'. You could work in a legal office and have a lot of lawyer and paralegal followers. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 10:01 PM
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Isn't he a billionaire? Additionally, he and Beyonce both work in music and live performance. Having that in common and respecting each others' work and need to tour, and all that being a public figure entails can bring people together, and there are very few people who have reached the heights of not merely wealth but popularity and longevity in the industry and who can appreciate what it's like to live in the spotlight. Also I wouldn't use them as an example of a great relationship as he cheat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:57 PM
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Women generally just aren’t that interested in men no matter how attractive because they aren’t as horny. Arousal state or intensity doesn't necessarily have anything to do with who you pursue or how many you pursue or accept into your life, or how much you are interested in someone. Plenty of people with high libidos also also have the ability to self-moderate. Even when they do find a man attractive, they keep their ego so closely guarded that everything has to be PERFECT for them to open them…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:53 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:48 PM
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being poor rarely stops people from shopping It absolutely does. i dont see how shopping can only be fun for rich people? When someone who only has a $30 grocery budget goes into the store it is often taxing, not fun. When someone who could theoretically spend $30,000 (not possible in a grocery store but this is just a hypothetical) and still have more than twice that in a single checking account, grocery shopping is fun and easy. the term "retail therapy" exists for a reason, It's a concept tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:44 PM
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They might just mean they live well within their means (have a low rent/low mortgage modest home, keep their food/entertainment expenses low, et cetera. For example, I am not making as much as them but I try to skimp on things where I don't mind the frugality (generic mustard brand) so I can spend more money on the things that are meaningful to me (traveling, saving for my early retirement).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:40 PM
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Why would any man want to marry a career woman? They marry them all the time. Sometimes because they both have the same priorities/similar interest in a career path, sometimes because the guy lives more low-key and likes to be with someone heavily motivated in this way. Sometimes just because your work doesn't necessarily reflect who you are and you have to pay bills. People who lead very corporate lives publicly often aren't the same way at home with a partner. I'm not trying to convince you to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:38 PM
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Right, I wasn't necessarily speaking to your situation. I just mean sometimes people will cut corners on costs for appliances that cause health problems or break down in a couple years, instead of investing in a better quality appliance that is still in their budget that doesn't have any safety recalls and will last for decades. Skimping on healthcare, food quality, things that protect your feet from the ground, safety gear, proper maintenance of a home for example is where (some) frugal types c…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:30 PM
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So you're saying women should be Passport Sisters?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:25 PM
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Do we know how many of them by choice though?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:24 PM
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I disagree. I think most of this subreddit even those of us who would disagree would acknowledge that it's much more common for even non-creep, non-misogynists who aren't getting dates in Japan to stay inside and not socialize more than men in the US. Even though in Japan they work fewer hours in the US and are less likely to commit suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:24 PM
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The expectations that change for a woman when she goes from being single to being married in Japan are extreme, and usually unappealing/not worth marrying someone. You go from being someone with some level of autonomy to being expected to be in a servile role not just to the husband, but to his parents and aunts/uncles. Now some people are okay with that (or maybe their spouses and spouses families don't buy into that archaic oppressive notion and have a healthy dynamic in regards to a particula…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:22 PM
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In the US if the guy has equal interest and attempt at custody he has equal outcomes generally. Most of the time custody is agreed to beforehand without the court involvement and usually the men choose to have the woman be primary caretaker. As far as her taking half of 'your' stuff... it's not your stuff if you agreed to marry in a state without a prenup where you know the marriage contract in that state means all the stuff (her stuff, and your stuff) is now belonging to both of you. Most coupl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:14 PM
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Yes, men are also capable of having motivations for self-improvement or learning new things/building new things outside of sex and/or romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:44 AM
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I pretty much never know someone's income until we have dated for quite a while. Plenty of brokies have a flashy car and shoes and the illusion that they are wealthy. Plenty of millionaires look a bit shlubby or don't have labels showing on their clothing. Having money doesn't make them better in bed, more fun to share a meal with, or more compatible. Youth and beauty do have some benefits and some disadvantages but only for a few years. Most people don't want to be desired for their youth and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:28 AM
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The problem is, the behavior being seen as 'cute' 'funny' or 'quirky' makes it more difficult for women to get diagnosed and get help managing it... so it can actually make life more difficult. That being said, I don't think autism is 'easy' for anyone in a world that is generally only built for the neurotypical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:50 AM
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It doesn't even matter if the guy would definitely not 'hold things like that over my head' I still will never agree to a first date if we're not each paying for ourselves or splitting the bill. Never once have I let a man pay for me on the first date (and after that we take turns or continue splitting indefinitely).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:23 AM
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I've met great people organically and great people online. But I prefer online. There are many reasons I prefer online dating but one is that I hate becoming really interested in someone I meet the 'old-fashioned way' only to find out we're not compatible (they're a smoker, they want kids, et cetera) whereas it would have been a basic tag on most online dating sites or easier to work out before we both got closer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:22 AM
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Most relationships start online. Most are hetero and involve a woman. It's the number one source for relationships. You'd be right we don't know if it's the number one source for dating in general when people are not interested in a relationship, but I'd be surprised and there's no reason to believe it isn't also for that. If girls were using it just to kill time then it wouldn't be the number one source for relationships...and most people ultimately do get into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:20 AM
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I don't think the problem is that women are being pressured to be promiscuous. I grew up in a somewhat progressive household in a very progressive area of the US. Even with this, more of the propaganda was pressuring me and other women to NOT be promiscuous, and to get married and have kids. There is far more cultural pressure to not explore sexuality and to get hitched and reproduce than there is in the other direction. School, popular culture, parents, even a lot of social circles encourage fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:01 AM
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For example, its literally been confirmed that women on dating apps rated 80% of the men as unattractive It hasn't been. People mostly reference outdated blogs from OK Cupid that actually wasn't data but again (a blog) and even if you took it at face value or falsely extrapolated it to the dating public at large it showed that women sent messages to a broader and more diverse variety of appearances of men compared to the men who only messaged/communicated with a much more narrowly attractive gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:46 AM
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If that city is in the US the men will on average have twice as many sexual partners in a lifetime as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:44 AM
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A minority but a significant one. 1 in 3 marriages begin with a single hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:44 AM
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The public eye as well as touring schedules and filming schedules do a number on even the healthiest relationship. Everything is scrutinized by the public, you have security issues, you're touring for months on end with almost no breaks, she/he is filming for a year or doing prep and training. Some of the reasons these relationships break down are the public eye. Sometimes it's the same reasons why most long-distance relationships don't work out. Also when your income is reliant on your 'brand' …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:39 AM
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It's not cheating if the initial couple agrees to it ahead of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:31 AM
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When you cheat on someone you are invoking harm for your temporary lust or desire... that's not love. It's possible the person did love that person up until they decided to cheat on them... once they followed through, it's not a legitimate love. The act of violating this and risking their health and life to a partner's sexual imput they didn't consent to, just to get off... or for affection for someone else but not enough to actually end things properly with the person being cheated on... it sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:30 AM
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Yeah OP is literally talking about the 1%. Actually a sliver of the 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:27 AM
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Yep. My phones are always older than those of pretty much every guy I date (by my choice). I don't like to have the 'latest' consoles, and buy fewer than one pair of shoes per year on average (usually only when two or three others are wearing down/ready to be tossed or sold to consignment. There are still things I like though (and won't skimp on).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:01 AM
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Frugal doesn't mean better (it doesn't mean worse either). Cutting costs can sometimes be a detriment, also someone who is interested in frugality for the sake of longevity. It really depends on the individual, how they execute it, and how compatible they are with the person they are sharing bills/expenses with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:59 AM
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women have the chore of shopping in the first place because they enjoy it more. Hell no, many women hate shopping. Shopping is generally only fun for people who are very financially comfortable... that's not most women or most men in the US for example who are living paycheck to paycheck and drowning in debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:58 AM
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I read a study that said women make 80% of purchases, Purchasing decisions, yes, because in a household even where a man benefits from those decisions (washer/dryer, dishwasher, oven, shampoo) and uses those products and appliances, predominantly it is on the women to get those things purchased/replaced. It really depends though and this is changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:57 AM
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But then buy cars they can't afford and spend a shitload on gaming consoles and PCs. There's nothing wrong with allowing yourself purchases though as long as you are managing other bills/goals in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:55 AM
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Just a note, it's mostly people over 40/45 who are into luxury jewelry/household decorations. That's why we zoomers and millennials are being blamed for the collapse of those industries. Additionally, luxury handbags and precious-metals jewelry often go up in value not down once purchased.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:54 AM
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Toys are investments. You can sell them. Designer handbags often go UP in value after you buy them as well. Most guys who buy a gaming system aren't considering it an investment. Or the guys who pay $1,000 for special edition Nikes. They usually plan to wear them, which immediately decreases the value of most of them. At any rate, in a dating sub the only way this is relevant is when a couple is together long enough and sharing expenses that they have to create a budget. Even then as long as the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:53 AM
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Most people regardless of gender are into 'the finer things'. But it varies not just with individual which is the main factor, but also culture and generation. For example, in the US couples used to care about an expensive wedding ring, a dinner set of fine china, a hope chest. Now women and men currently under 40 (most millennials and zoomers) are being blamed for the collapse of these industries because it's shown they are more interested in shared experiences rather than overpriced common gem…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:50 AM
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You don't know how even a handful of women in your country are dating. Also what you observe for 40 minutes in a restaurant isn't going to tell you much unless there is incredibly loud and egregious behavior of some sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:29 AM
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80% of women (US) aren't even on Twitter. Also the kind of person who openly gives advice on their own social media pages is a very narrow demographic that is not reflective of most women. That being said, a woman who has dated/has relationships/has seen their friends struggle with dating or has experienced it themselves has a lot more knowledge and practical experience than someone who has rarely even asked someone out, never dated, et cetera. Though I agree that there's a lot of information on…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:28 AM
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Plenty of people are into fucking chairs. Pretty sure of the 98% of of people (US) who date, have sex, relationships, and a majority of that marriage or a live-in partner dwarf the 2% that includes asexuals and 'people into fucking chairs'. Why? You have offered no explanation. Most relationships (US) are not arranged. Most begin with mutual attraction instead of a business arrangement. More than 90% of people have sex by age 25 (and most of them by age 17), most are married or have a live-in pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:09 AM
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Lonliness is a cause of suicidal tendencies Loneliness is not cured by dating. Loneliness alone is not a direct cause of suicidal ideation, there are so many other variables, none of them having to do with dating or women who don't want them agreeing to date them out of a warped sense of obligation to a random person rather than the person in their life there might be mutual consent with. You don't solve suicidal ideation by giving someone a gf or pressuring someone into dating. It has no place …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:55 PM
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But the problem is that Japanese men didn't used to jump in front of trains, they only started this after their traditional society fully caved in the 1960s. You're drawing a false connection between 'traditional dating/marriage' falling off and suicide. There are a lot of socioeconomic and cultural reasons this is happening. Lack of gf/baby mama isn't a legitimate cause of depression or suicidal tendencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:44 AM
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Who's going to pay the salary of the caretakers? A business that is not exploiting workers pays decent wages. A well paid, non-hungry, non-desperate staff has less turnover, less payments needed for constant new training. People who feel appreciated and respected at work. In state run facilities, taxes. For instance in the US, we could easily change how much we spend on the military and make it instead so that some parts of military spending are cut and that goes back into the coffers to support…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:42 AM
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TRP doesn't describe 'normal female language'. Also TRP does not appear to be successful. Most of the people who identify as TRP also identify as struggling in the sex or dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:12 AM
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If someone is jumping in front of a train they have a myriad of struggles they need help with that have to do with mental health and the material conditions of their lives... not some individual selecting not to date them. Japan's problems can be solved a million ways that don't involve pressuring Japanese women to birth babies or date people against their will.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:03 AM
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That's not how it works. What you're going to have (and what you already have in say Greece), is 2 or 3 pensioners for every working adult. Pay caretakers a good wage, make their ratio of caretaker-to-patient reasonable and untaxing, give them benefits, stop demeaning the position in society, bring in more immigrants, are just a few things you can do that won't have anything to do with unethically and draconianly trying to just get couples who don't want to couple up or don't want babies to birt…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:02 AM
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Keep in mind: all you get out of a LTR is someone constantly nagging and complaining Not if both are doing it right. Plenty of relationships have a much better dynamic than what you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:58 AM
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In most cases, but not all. Demisexuals exist (those who need to get to know a person before they know if they desire them for a relationship, or romance in general, or sex), but they are a minority. Some people occasionally have someone who is nowhere near any of their 'types' catch their interest. But in most cases mutual attraction is needed at the start of every LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:56 AM
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We only need really 500 people to several thousand for healthy genetic diversity and a self-perpetuating population. Maybe a few hundred thousand more based on other factors, but still well under a billion and there are plenty of ways society can be just fine that don't involve half of the population being financially desperate and dependent and uneducated or undereducated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:30 AM
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Half of the population being uneducated, unable to provide for themselves, and desperate doesn't benefit society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:29 AM
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Firstly the Taliban is extremism not merely 'traditional Islam'. Most Muslims abhor the Taliban. Secondly, even though Islam will likely overtake Christianity in terms of followers/participants in the religion as followers of Christianity are on a steady decline, most Muslims around the world are far from anything like the Taliban and for good reason. And in more and more places some people are culturally somewhat Muslim but still want all their children regardless of gender to be safe, strong, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:28 AM
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Why are we acting like women having more autonomy, freedom, and access to education and being able to support themselves is a bad thing? Educated, financially-independent women (or any woman) is not responsible for a man being lonely. Though some support men in their lives in other ways just as any good friend, sibling, parent, colleague does to different extents. Doesn't mean there is any onus to date, or to date a specific person they don't want. A woman getting a degree and wanting to date so…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:25 AM
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Definitely! There are some of men in this subreddit for example who won't date and aren't attracted to feminists no matter what they look like. Or anyone who isn't a tradwife-type. There are also some men in this subreddit who won't date a trad-type even if they are physically their type. Physical attraction is necessary in most dating scenarios for most people (not all, but almost all). But you might still find something unappealing that breaks that attraction (maybe you find out she's a smoker…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:21 AM
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In my case it just means we're both contributing equally to whatever we're doing together or whatever space is shared. It's not going to be exactly 50/50 but still balanced. I think that's why you see a lot of different takes on it, because what is egalitarian is going to depend a lot on the couple and their individual needs, strengths, and limitations. Neither person is "the leader", the person who is better at something or enjoys it more might be designated (by mutual agreement) to handle it t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:12 AM
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Sure they should have. It's not for someone else to decide, it's between them and the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:06 AM
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Sure it is. Ugly people still get laid. Poor people still get laid. A vast majority of young men are having fairly regular sex currently (the last GSS data I believe was around 80% from a month or two ago), and women it's somewhat less. Men are doing 'better' than women even in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:02 AM
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Not really relevant so I won't get too much into it, but last year I brought in a considerably higher than average income for individuals in the US. This year will likely be similar but I'm not quite in the thick of my busy season yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:01 AM
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It depends on the culture, but in many, including the US a broad shouldered guy with a bit of a belly is going to be considered more attractive than a guy who is underweight. It really depends on a lot of factors though. For instance Timothee Chalamet is probably a bit underweight, but due to having some muscle and a decent frame is considered a heartthrob for many.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:58 AM
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Social conditioning absolutely has some influence, I agree (and that's not a good thing in most ways) but many people shake it off or don't buy into it fully. Plenty of people are attracted to those who look nothing like social conditioning. We should be pushing for people to be more accepting of certain traits and less accepting of others. Physically? No. If you mean things like teaching people to recognize and avoid abusers (any gender), sure, but that's unquestionable good. Not pressuring peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:56 AM
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It's not just women getting married a little later, men too. Still most (US) either marry or have/have had a live-in partner by their 30s or 40s. Of those in generations currently under 40 they are marrying on average 1 to 2 years later than earlier generations and have halved the divorce rate (yes when compared to the same marriage time frames of older generations). You put 100 millennial and zoomer (mostly millennial since most zoomers are too young to marry) married couples next to 100 Gen X …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:54 AM
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Firstly, subreddits are not representative of the average population of any demographic. Suddenly, I rarely visit except when people in this subreddit guide me there and often not even then, but the last time I went like three of the top posts were celebrating people doing or honing traditionally feminine "tradwife" crafts and skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:51 AM
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And if someone is only with you or even primarily with you for your bank balance...that ain't love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:57 AM
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I mostly date men who earn less than me. As a good percentage of men in the US do not make what I do. That being said I have also (occasionally) dated millionaires, multi-millionaires, and found that they were no better a date or more fun to spend time with than people bringing in very little income. A man being well off doesn't make them a better date, more interesting, more fun, more decent, even more relaxed than a man who is poor or in between these types.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:56 AM
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People who are poor, out of shape, emotionally still have a ways to go to meet a good baseline, and don't have hobbies that are 'cool' still date, still have a right to date, still have sex and relationships and have throughout human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:53 AM
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You sure? It's the very definition of the word. Take the tinfoil off. Most men only want a blowjob and a sandwich. If you dated men or spoke with men you'd realize some don't even like blowjobs. Most humans like sandwiches though.. that has nothing to do with dating or gender dynamics though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:52 AM
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Why wouldn't most women do this? If a guy is attractive they will want to try different things with him. Even very high libido women who are curious still don't just suddenly become turned on by something they weren't into (fecal play for example) just because someone is attractive and into it. With the right guy? Are you kidding me? Not at all. Women are more sexual with certain guys. I'm that guy so I would know. I'm sorry but your personal experience doesn't extrapolate to huge swaths of wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:51 AM
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Women can have a healthy sexuality without attention whoring on social media, For some women and men social media is a terrible thing, for others it's a healthy outlet, and it can be these things regardless of if some random observer judges it to be 'attention-seeking'. There's nothing inherently wrong about consenting adults performing or watching performances. Most women aren't on OF and most women on there can't make any profit from it. 666 deal? Similarly, more attractive men don't need the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:49 AM
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I know it’s right for me though. I don’t really see myself being happy in an totally egalitarian relationship. Exactly, you're like my cousin whose wedding I loved going to and who is very happy with her spouse and vice versa. That's the point, some are happy in that situation, someone like me would be in hell. Just out of curiosity, what kind of relationships do you prefer? For yourself, I mean. As far as traditional versus modern? My preference and the only ones I'll agree to are more modern a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:45 AM
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Sure it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:42 AM
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Then you agree that some women are like this? Sure and some men. Not most, not all. Not enough to generalize. The limits are completely different depending on the guy. You know it and I know it. Really not. Most people don't just suddenly find something a turn on or acceptable that they didn't before. Someone who doesn't like poop play is not going to suddenly like it because a guy was hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:41 AM
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A woman is not a child. Your idea is cute but get real. Additionally, some children definitely are more authoritative than some adults. Another word for that is good woman. Or someone who would allow their child to be beaten or raped if they obeyed the authority of some types. Obeying every command without question makes someone a sheep at beats and at worst someone who will just commit atrocities all day because someone told them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:40 AM
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That's kind of my point. The kind of person who would care about the number instead of someone's health and if they find their appearance attractive would be concerning because it's not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:37 AM
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Nowadays I see many gold, -digger TikTok accounts with millions of views That's your problem right there... TikToks. You can't assume you know what women want or how they are generally from Tiktoks. Content creators usually are looking for views and they know provocation gets likes. Also your TikTok is curated based on what you find exciting. My TikTok when I had one was full of exotic botany, physics lectures, and goth eye makeup tutorials (some of which yes had millions of views). That doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:01 AM
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When I was in high school I looked like I was 97 lbs soaking wet but was 20 lbs heavier because of so much pure muscle from swimming and water polo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:48 AM
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If someone asked me, I'd ask them why they want to know. In most cases I would then tell them my weight and promptly say my goodbyes to them and not go on a second date, not because of the weight, but because it shows they have no social IQ. If they just wanted to know because we were going on some kind of rope-line adventure later and it was a safety concern that would be different of course. Someone can ask, it's just considered weird and not 'good weird'. And they can decide not to date someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:47 AM
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Feminism is about men being able to choose to be a stay at home dad and women too. Feminism is about choice to be what you want to be, regardless of if it shares some commonalities or none with older dynamics. It's about men not being shamed if they want to stay at home and wear an apron all day and do domestic shit and women not being shamed if they want to become a CEO.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:41 AM
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Your response here is just a self-report. They're making a point and you try to discredit them by guessing that they're crying about it just because they disagree with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:39 AM
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Yes 'obey' has quite a few negative connotations unless you are talking about a dog. Submissive definition: "ready to conform to the authority or will of others; meekly obedient or passive. "a submissive, almost sheeplike people" So yes, someone who conforms to someone just because they are a man or thinks they have inherent authority just because they are a man would be someone you might be concerned for as men do not have inherent authority or superiority. Additionally, passive isn't a positiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:37 AM
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Exactly. I like making good money and I'm an inappropriate person to be doing much of anything in the kitchen. My parents and siblings however, of various genders are all excellent cooks. I would be miserable in any sort of traditional arrangement, unhealthy an unhappy, but my cousin and her husband have a much more traditional dynamic and they both seem happy as clams. I was happy to celebrate them at their wedding and I'm happy to keep her company in the kitchen while awing over her mastery in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:28 AM
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Most people don't view traditional relationships with hate unless someone is being exploited in the relationship. It's usually if someone tries to argue traditional should be something everyone participates in (even against their will) or is somehow superior to more modern dynamics which understandably gets criticism. Honestly, when you grow up in this kind of environment and witness this traditional dynamic maintained in a healthy, loving way (no one is forced to do it), you kind of get used it…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:23 AM
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It's funny to imagine a woman typing "strong hot naked men" on google hahahaha. More than 70% of women in the US do something like that however. It's only funny if you're not aware of how many women and how high a percentage of women watch porn. Men are much more simple about this. Not necessarily. There is diversity in the types of porn men watch and the way they access it as well. But it seems to be that women are usually not turned on by just looking at a attractive man. Some of us are very v…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:14 AM
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She won't respect you, if you don't act like a man and take up higher position in the power dynamic of the relationship. Plenty of women (not all) will lose all respect for someone who tries to dominate a relationship. Even traditionalists will expect a man to sometimes trust her over his own judgement in areas of the couple's life. For instance, some traditional types will entrust matters of home, food, clothing, childbearing, household accounting, et cetera to a wife who will take charge and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:02 AM
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Having multiple sexual partners does not limit one's ability to love or connect, lmao. Men have almost twice as many sexual partners in a lifetime as women (US) and you could easily argue they have just as much capacity for love and connection. In some cases you could even argue that more experience makes one better to differentiate love from a crush, and true connection from infatuation (but it depends, sometimes there are of course very perceptive people with limited experience).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:00 AM
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I can vouch that this "Then there's a secret menu of degenerate things they're only willing to do with guys they really like." is bullshit except in individual cases. Plenty of people have hard limits regardless of the partner and what they feel toward them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:57 AM
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Unfortunately it's true. When a woman really wants to sleep with you she will do anything to please you. That's simply not the case with plenty of women. Not everyone is a people pleaser, some people actually become more reserved (at least temporarily) when they are more attracted because they want to make sure they don't make any rash decisions. Someone, even someone I initially found incredibly hot and wanted to take home will kill it in the bud if they try to rush sex for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:54 AM
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Yep I have never met or heard about anyone with a libido as high as mine... that doesn't mean I will want to (or will) agree to sex quickly or be attracted to someone who brings it up too soon or tries to rush it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:50 AM
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Not necessarily. A human does not need a romantic or sexual relationship in order to be happy, healthy, and fulfilled. A human DOES Need to have some social connections and close relationships with people, but those can be friendships, family, mentorships, colleagues, et cetera. None of those have to be romantic or sexual in nature. That being said, sex and romance are wildly popular, and most people experience them throughout their lives, more than 90% by age 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:42 AM
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Yes but the main reason that fell out of favor was improved education regarding things like health and knowledge of the damage it caused and reduction in quality of life. Similarly, pressuring or forcing someone to date or marry someone they are not attracted to would be similarly unhealthy and damaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:35 AM
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Most people are told that their entire lives. That doesn't make it of interest to everyone, healthy for everyone, or practical for everyone. Individuals can decide what they promote, but a societal-level attempt to control, manipulate, or pressure a segment of society into giving over their bodily autonomy to someone they don't want to, or spending optional romantic time with someone they don't want is impractical, unethical, and downright draconian.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:34 AM
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We're only a few decades out from women (not men) being lobotomized for having "too much" of a healthy sexual appetite. Some of the most popular religions in the world are based on a creation story of a woman wanting to have more experiences/and knowledge and being demonized and blamed for it. At any rate, sex positivity should be something promoted for all genders, same with consent, creating healthy boundaries, avoiding bad relationships, et cetera.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:29 AM
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Please return to my dance-card area. That would have been hundreds at a single dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:08 AM
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I am well aware of the issues of american lack of healthcare and of the struggles of american poor. Ah, good, your earlier notes about women and their finances seemed to indicate the opposite. I have seen low wage american social media because of my family in america... I doubt they are budgetting anything or doing any of what you describe No. It is not hard for women to get into the academia. Most can't even afford it. More than half of women in the US in fact. I can't take your arguments serio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:07 AM
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If you don’t agree with persuading, cajoling or pressuring people to do something then you’re just disagreeing with the very concept of society. Dating someone you don't want doesn't promote the concept of society at all. Men for example are pressured all the time to make money, to be more masculine, to be a certain way,… to even get a chance to have a partner. I'd argue that such pressure is unethical and unhelpful. Men being pressured to do all these things does not make them healthier, often …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:59 AM
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A single parent home is not a broken one. As long as a growing child has their needs comfortably looked after and loving figures in their life who guide them, they do well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:41 AM
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Quite a few 'hoes' don't marry until their 30s or 40s....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:35 AM
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'80s hair bands, Boy George, '70s long flowing hair with flower patterns and flowing, frilled shirts....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:38 AM
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If they're not into you they're not the right match.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:16 AM
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It should pay for half of the expenses strictly related to the child(ren).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:15 AM
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Generally doesn't even cover the percentage of groceries the kid eats and the gas used purely to drive them to school, practice, friends' houses et cetera. Want to know what my friend who is a single parent veteran on disability was awarded for two kids (their ex makes above average wages)? Less than $60 a month. Doesn't even pay for food for the kids for the time they spend with them or the gas for transport that is purely child-related.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:04 AM
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Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:55 AM
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Most child support doesn't even cover the grocery and gas bills for just the kids' part of the monthly food for people. A third of child support in the US is never paid, not even a single penny of. Do you not realize how expensive it is to raise children?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:55 AM
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Most feminists date men and enjoy and like the men they date. Many feminists have men who are friends, have had adult men mentors and teachers some of whom they liked and appreciated, et cetera. Even lesbian feminists sometimes have a cadre of dudes who are friends and love their dads, brothers, and their teaching assistants or professors. You have a misconception.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:53 AM
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That's assuming we all like someone "in spite of their height" instead of finding it hot, whether they are 5'1" or 6'1". If I date someone shorter than myself it's not 'in spite of his height' it's because I also find shortness hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:51 AM
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I don't think movies are always insignificant. Yes they're entertainment, they also are able to convey someone's story, and even if it isn't based real people, it's based on real feelings. A man being touched by that is definitely not 'icky' to me, but that's the beauty of the diversity of women and men on this planet, we like different things. Also a lot of times people have been holding their head up for months, years through a lot of cry-worthy shit and didn't cry... and then something small …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:49 AM
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The right match is going to de select you if they meet you when you’re at you’re worst. When you're at your worst, perhaps. Most people, however, are not anywhere near 'their best' when they meet people, even if they could plan for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:45 AM
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That's not true. Gamer groups do this all the time. Bachelor parties even when they don't have a dancer, hiking buddies, people having a casual bbq, and so much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:33 AM
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Do it as a block party so people can trickle in at will. Or at a park with big signs saying (everyone welcome). You can even lean into it with signs that say 'Trying to make friends, come join my party, free cans of soda and Funyuns'.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:33 AM
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It depends on the severity. Some people just need improv classes and etiquette courses with someone who works with neuroatypical people (or is just open to it, has a good environment for it). Other people need more professional help, someone who specializes in autism or is a worker who specializes in helping people reacclimate to society after being out of it for a long time. There are credentialed professionals who do this but they can take a while to seek out. It's more difficult in the US of …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:29 AM
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I'm not sure you'd be able to glean the interior emotions of 50 people even if you were an empath or something... But I think at that point you might consider taking a friend/minder with you to observe your behavior and find out how in the world you are disgusting so many people in your approach or by your propositions to them. It could be a run of bad luck, but that many people genuinely "disgusted" by just a normal reasonable polite approach? Very unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:25 AM
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Morality has existed and life has mattered to many civilizations that had no religion or drew away from religion. Communities throughout have supported and nurtured each other, regardless of which god they were following throughout history regardless of which god they followed or if they followed any.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:23 AM
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I don't know, religion also tells people to rape children (child brides/child grooms) and to kill (in the name of their god or creed), and to destroy the lives of others (see human history). Religion isn't inherently good or bad though. It's what someone does with that belief and if following those beliefs harms others.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:19 AM
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Religion is responsible for most of the worst atrocities of mankind, however it has also inspired people to do beautiful, life-giving, soul-enriching things. Religion is like money. It can be used for good or evil, but systems powerful in it tend to abuse, exploit and harm. There is nothing wrong with someone having a belief as long as a) it doesn't cause them to harm other people when following it and b) they don't pressure, or expect society or any individual to follow it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:18 AM
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Fungi have an advanced network that also communicates and understands risk and detriment to their system... plants send communication signals across their tops to warn their 'sister' trees when giraffes are starting to eat the leaves further down the line. Plants are also sensitive to music. Just eat nothing. ; )
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:17 AM
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I don't know, cows are pretty sensitive, even chickens for all their goofiness have some advanced behaviors et cetera. Even plants can respond differently to different types of music, communicate through chemical release and adjustments of fronds to send messages through networks, and fungi are an entirely different animal. Maybe we should just eat nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:15 AM
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What I find sexy for people some definitely will not: Urban gardening Gaming Water Polo Tinkering Composing Writing Foraging Skateboarding Thrifting Styling (clothing, grooming with an artistic eye) Painting Sketching Beadwork Playing an instrument Cooking Collecting (not hoarding) but having an organized beloved collection, even if it's just 'pennies prior to 1990' or 'bottle caps that twisted into a weird shape' Swimming Kite dueling Fly Tying Calligraphy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:12 AM
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To be clear my body language and tone is that of someone with severe autism There's a huge range of behaviors and tones for people with severe autism, this isn't helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:03 AM
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The same. I date mostly 20s and some 30s when I'm looking and if I was only looking at appearance I'd swipe right on more than half on the apps (and a third or more out in the world organically). The big things that narrow my dating pools for people I will 'swipe right on' are values and personality/lifestyle based. I won't date someone who wants kids or marriage for example. That's the big disqualifier. Plenty of people either look good or just normal and not ugly at all. Of course this is very…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:01 AM
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While online dating does have its own distinctions, the visual aspect of it is not that much different from someone sending a portrait of their daughter to suitors some time ago, or decades and earlier people putting someone's name on a dance card after only seeing their face and asking the dance chaperones their name. Sometimes they'd get a few tidbits about the guy but certainly not as much as a dating profile. Most people need someone to look attractive to them in order to be attractive. Very…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:59 AM
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Everyone could always be better. That's what life is, a process of (hopefully) trying to be the best you. The right match will meet you where you are, and if things go toward a longer-term angle, will grow with you into their own path.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:52 AM
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How does "some men" try to "protect their loved ones" validate some kind of victim narrative? Rape isn't a narrative, it's inherently bad. The fact that fewer people participate in it now than almost ever is a good thing. Fewer people experiencing this is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:34 AM
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I believe it exists and have observed it being demonstrated. People often fall in love and show each other they care before someone's perceived status is even known, and while most people need to be physically attracted to someone they care about in a different way than they would love friend or family, there is a variety of what people find attractive. And there is a small percent of the population who does not feel attraction/does not recognize if they find someone 'hot' until they get to know…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:33 AM
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It was not. Men have always protected women and feel a lot of sympathy for them. Lmao, no. Now you're rewriting history. If you reworded that to say "There have always been some men who tried to protect their loved ones and feel sympathy, of course that's true. There are good men and have been good men and women throughout time. That has nothing to do with the fact that marital rape and abuse were not only codified in law but taught and encouraged for a great deal of human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:20 AM
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For a proper and well rounded upbringing, kids need to be exposed to both masculine and feminine energy. I don't subscribe to this idea of 'energy' but I do partially agree. A child needs a variety of trusted adults and a diversity of mentors to be healthy and grow and be nurtured. But the primary parental figure being a tomboy mom doesn't preclude this. Butch single mothers have just as much ability to raise a child as anyone else, all things being equal. Same with single fathers who aren't tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:18 AM
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In most relationships, the man is more dominant than the woman. I disagree. I think every couple has some areas where one takes the lead and other areas where another does. Relationships that are one sided like that are ripe for abuse (regardless of the gender of the more dominant one). Consider that both might even enjoy it. I don't think you're understanding me. People who 'enjoy' it would be able to speak up about their needs and have their needs respected from a partner, someone who is a 100…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:16 AM
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No most of that was made up of people who had married or had a cohabitating partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:12 AM
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No I'm not personally relevant to all that, I'm using the references a lot of pillers here seem to glom on to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:11 AM
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No, but in order to be allowed in certain journals they have to be of scientific merit. The data has to be gathered by actual scientists and researchers and meet a certain threshold of scientific integrity. It's not that children of gay parents don't face some difficulty, just not on average any more than children of straight parents. Both children of straight parents and gay parents get bullied sometimes for example, just sometimes for different reasons. Now keep in mind that the gay couple als…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:05 AM
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Most women are not good with budgetting There are plenty of women who are good at budgeting (plenty of men, too), most people make below living wages in their states and still manage to take care of their necessities though not comfortably. That takes budgeting. How to creatively have filling meals while still keeping the car in gas, the mortgage paid and so on and so forth while working full time and getting new shoes for the littlest that keeps growing. A lot of men are also good at budgeting.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:00 AM
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I honestly don't know, especially since in some places they can pull your tax refund or put a lien or similiar on bank accounts. But a third never pay a single penny of it ever anyway (men and women who owe).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:52 AM
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No the "norm" is less than half that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:50 AM
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That's very difficult if they are a submissive person. Bullies will target them and 'beat out' the decent men. Truly submissive people will be afraid to speak out or won't speak out. They won't be able to choose to dance with/date the decent guy because if you're a submissive person in your day to day life, you'll succumb more often to the bullies, abusers, and the insecure types.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:31 PM
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It was also culturally encouraged, even taught. Of course that doesn't mean everybody did it, but there was a lot more of it then than when it became discouraged and illegal. Women weren't allowed to say 'no'.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:29 PM
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US Census for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:28 PM
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Femininity is a requisite for a good mother. It's not. You can meet almost no definition of femininity except being a woman and still be a wonderful mother. But tomboy doesn't necessarily mean a woman is masculine I'd greatly disagree as far as traditional perceptions, but for this case you could change it to 'the most masculine-presenting of tomboys' and they can still be an incredible mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:22 PM
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Women who aren’t even sluts get called sluts depending on who the guy she turned down is.. Yep. First time I was called one I was a virgin who had never had any part of myself touched in a romantic or sexual way except my lips (twice) for kisses. A ex-boyfriend. I was a virgin throughout high school and into the early part of my college life too, but because I was a sex positive person who always criticized those who slut-shamed, I was called a slut as well. I only had one boyfriend in high scho…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:20 PM
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Trans women and gay men very often act in what would be considered traditionally feminine ways. Are they considered weak, stupid, irrational and useless too? Yes a great deal of society still considers gay men 'weak' because some (not all) of them are perceived as 'effeminate'. Think of the insults traditionally used and still used today for a gay man. They're not being called insults like 'pleasant to be around/agreeable' they're called flimsy, they're denigrated with slurs like 'pansy', 'limp-…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:14 PM
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Why would the decisions be against them? The decisions would be in the interest of both people. Except it wouldn't because a submissive person wouldn't speak out or wouldn't be allowed/encouraged to speak out when it's not in their interests. And their spouse won't inherently know (not even maliciously, just because you can't know someone's needs unless they are able to discuss them with you without it breaking that 'submissiveness' barrier they've been put in) what is 'best for them'. It's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:08 PM
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pleasant to be around and would make a great mother. Pleasant to be around doesn't mean they are traditionally feminine. Plenty of tomboys make great mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:05 PM
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Well, considering that we live in a society where many people think that a man can get a surgery and then magically become a "woman" then I can't help but think you're right.. Are you talking about trans people? Many trans people never even get surgery. 1 in 50 people are intersex and that doesn't even touch the realm of the trans journey. It's not 'magical'. It's science that some people's gender doesn't match the sex they were assigned at birth. And, as noted with the existence of intersex peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:04 PM
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Men were legally allowed to beat their wives (and encouraged to do so as a form of 'discipline') for a good chunk of human history. A woman did not have the similar 'right' to do so to her husband. A submissive woman would not have been even able to run away in many cases. Marital rape in the US was legal until 1993.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:53 PM
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Depending on the generation we're talking about more than 40% of women were abused by their spouses (as in physically, we're not even talking financially, emotionally, et cetera) in the 1950s and earlier for example, and 85% of domestic violence cases that actually had any legal acknowledgement were against women. Keep in mind it was legal to beat your wife (and encouraged, as a form of discipline!) in the 1950s and earlier in some parts of the US as long as the damage was 'limited'. Officially …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:52 PM
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Why when all science and research shows that children do just as well with gay parents compared to those with straight parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:10 PM
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And showing that as long as the kid has a supportive remaining family, and has their material conditions at a steady and reliable level, there is no negative impact compared to two parent families.... A woman who wants to be a single mom has enough to spend often 5 or 6 figures on IVF. The kid will have a lot of supportive adults in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:09 PM
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Yeah I'm all about the 'choice' in pro-choice. You can't bar adults from having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:05 PM
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I think forced child support is a good compensation for that, In the US only about half of divorces award child support. And of that amount, 33% of the parent owing it never pays a single penny of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:04 PM
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The kid will probably never meet the actual biological father, and they may resent that later. Yes this is true if someone marries someone out of 'pressure' and it doesn't last and they disappear from their lives. A child would also resent being kept in an unhappy family. But the latter is worse for them. The woman will have to work overtime to provide for the kid, who will likely be raised by nannies and child care. She will be more tired. Most women who can afford to deliberately decide to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:03 PM
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Of the tiny sliver of 8% of women in the US making 100K+ most are married or successfully dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:53 PM
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Most older career women are dating or married....
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:51 PM
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Stalked, harassed, sexually assaulted. Having your job which pays for you to live threatened, your self-esteem from the respect you had gained for your accomplishments as a man now fall apart when you are perceived as women... these are not little things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:50 PM
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There’s many ways to push something onto people without it being forced or coercion. That's why I mentioned manipulation and propaganda with this agenda of pressuring people to want who they don't is also unacceptable, unethical, unhealthy. We can totally have a society that rewards monogamous living style more than other. Slippery slope if you hinge it on monogamy. I'm all for parents getting more rights to take time off for their families, and people in general regardless of their relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:44 PM
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It's not easy to make it big in streaming. It takes much more than simply looking good on camera. It also takes a LOT of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:26 PM
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Libs of TikTok has called attention to a phenomenon the mainstream media refuses to cover, and has been branded an unhinged zealot for it. Do the slightest bit of research into this. They're a unethical, unserious party, who decontextualizes usually the fringe of a particular demographic that is the 'hate target of choice' that tweet, and has admitted to not just criminal but horrific behavior. You're adding YouTube and Libs of TikTok as sources, I simply can't take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:18 PM
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There was a popular female author who dressed and lived life as a man, she developed extreme depression and even ptsd from the experience. Yes living in a gender that's not true to yourself is traumatizing. It's why transition is a treatment only for genuinely trans people. Also that author you speak of had suicidal ideation and depression before the project. Of course the stress of dealing (from the start) with both the same challenges you faced in one gender and now adding on the additional on…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:16 PM
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sounds like rather small issues tbh Well there's your problem right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:14 PM
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They'll usually refer to them as 'landwhales' 'libtards' 'blue-haired SJWs' 'trolls with septum piercings' or any other group that they simultaneously say they could never be attracted to but then get mad at when the people they think fall into those groups get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:14 PM
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Most men aren't stoic neutral-faced unfazeable rocks. Most men get sad sometimes just as anyone. Most men cry sometimes just as anyone. Most men get frustrated. Yet most men still get laid, get into relationships, get married, et cetera. If you are telling a loved one you are feeling bereft, hurt, et cetera, if you are crying because you're sad, all these things and 'the lust leaves their eyes' it's not because they think less of you (if that is the reason they are a terrible person and not wort…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:31 AM
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I didn't have it nearly as badly as you but birth control made a huge difference in improving the quality of my life in this way. Even for the years I wasn't seeing anyone I stayed on it because of the other benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:16 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:14 AM
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And motivation. Between 70% and 80% of men had sex recently and many want to keep women in their good graces and vice versa. Pretty sure the other gays would side with us, the lefty anarchists with all the good tinkering skills, and pretty much all the women of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:14 AM
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We'll so who's laughing 20 years from now when you get the kristallnacht treatment. Are you self-reporting as a Nazi? Classic. No idea who you are referring to They are referring to Jordan Peterson.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:12 AM
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Right? We'll have a good chunk the 70%-80% of guys who aren't currently incelibate, plus almost all the women, plus almost all of the queer community including a great deal of programmers, and a ton of lefty anarchists with incredible explosives skills. Pretty sure we'll be alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:11 AM
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Really? Most of the world's billionaires are women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:09 AM
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Someone using Libs of TikTok as a source on anything, I can't. It's run by an unhinged zealot. Of course there are challenges that are more common among women versus men. Trans women will also tell you they were shocked and appalled at how post transition suddenly their coding credentials were questioned or mocked, (even with new clients who didn't know they were trans and were just responding to the feminine sounding name on the email, whereas previously under their old name that read as male t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:07 AM
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Only 5% of OF performers even make enough to even pay for a power bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:03 AM
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Women are able to live such easy lives that they can acquire education, careers, jobs, opportunities and wealth aplenty using their sexual value alone. What world are you living in? Wealth is the realm of literally the 1%, most men and most women are living paycheck to paycheck (US and elsewhere). Education has mired so many men and women in debt and many more cannot afford to go at all. As for careers it depends on the industry. Women definitely have an advantage in nursing but those advantages…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:02 AM
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What the medical field calls 'mild' includes what feels like being sliced with a twisted knife for one third of every month, vomiting, fevers, migraines, swelling, exhaustion, back aches, breast aches, and 'mild' anemia from losing too much blood. And that's just the week of. Some people get variations of these symptoms or other ones the week prior to this as well so half the month they are in great discomfort or agony. Edited to add, I forgot some people get dysentary-levels of incontinence/dia…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 02:48 AM
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I understand if someone wants to explore their first sexual experiences with another explorer new to "these waters" et cetera, but one of the things that flummoxes me is people getting mad or insulting women they aren't even interested in who are getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 11:56 PM
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by the practice "try before you buy" and sex should be between two people who are potentially considering marriage one day. So people who are not into public ceremonies about their romantic life or who do not want to register a contract with the state should remain celibate by your philosophy? Promiscuous people are disgusting because they 1. use and manipulate people to get pleasure What does being promiscuous have to do with using people? Someone who is promiscuous can have plenty of healthy, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 11:54 PM
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Otherwise, spare me a minute to introduce myself. After a bit of conversation you can easily say, 'It's been nice to meet you but I have to get going now' or 'You seem nice but you're not my type'. Basically just try to be courteous, there's no need to be rude This sounds like it wastes someone's time if you're just showing interest in continuing a conversation with someone who has just asked you out only to tell them you're not interested after the conversation, but it's definitely something to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 11:42 PM
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Yeah it's not an invitation to hit on them... I'm not saying hit on the bartender (that's kind of fucked in many circumstances), I'm saying building a polite, non-distracting rapport with people at a venue can have a positive effect on your dating life and also make you feel less awkward/alone at a bar. I think you were confused when I said talk to the staff... I didn't mean hit on them. I meant just... be sociable (again not distracting them from their work or other customers).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 09:18 PM
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But to my point, asking a woman out is a little more emotionally and socially charged than not being invited to somebody's wedding. Not sure I can agree with that, wedding drama can get pretty intense and emotional for some people. There aren't a thousand tiktoks out there TikTok is an entertainment and provocation platform, it's not a place to get information on what a demographic of people is like. I hear all the time about how much gravity there is on the woman's end of these interactions. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:41 PM
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Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:38 PM
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I thought those people were being nice "because it's their job"? They are and you shouldn't presume it's that deep, but as long as you aren't distracting them/demanding you can still be friendly with them and build even a casual acquaintanceship. These professions also consistent of people of various genders, not sure why you thought the 'why not the same for male professionals' applies here when a bartender can be any gender, the DJ too, the promoter, the bouncer (though less often), and a ton …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:37 PM
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Not in recent history has unmarried sex been so casual and socially acceptable. That's not true but it's very culture-dependent and time period.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:27 PM
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It's not normal for 30% of men to never find a partner. 98% of men do (technically likely more than that as most asexuals are women not men). That's in the US, that last 2% is even smaller in some places. Most people find one before they are 40, the average person has multiple sexual partners in a lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:26 PM
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It makes it seem like he just wants sex/dates, and isn't actually interested in people in and of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:14 PM
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Or you can just make friends with the bartender, or the DJ, the promoters, the bouncers, the karaoke/trivia hosts (not in a way that makes you distract them from their work or other customers, just in an occasional, building-rapport-each-visit kind of a way). Not to mention to a lot of people seeing someone be kind and friendly to the staff is a mark in their favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:12 PM
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Well it also shows that he's not interested in you, he's just interested in any random women nearby. Most people don't enjoy just being the person that 'ups someone's odds' rather than someone found their t-shirt interesting or their smile delightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:10 PM
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What is your favorite way (not that it's fun) to be rejected by a woman that you wish women would do more often?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:09 PM
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Yes, and the following is just my personal observation NOT data but from what I've seen there are fewer women who are stalkers/harassers, but the few who are on average are more intense and scary than a good deal of the men who do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:08 PM
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Most people aren't sexual predators or serial harassers it's true. If someone's being weirdly aggressive following me and hitting on me, walking into a rough looking bar filled with men still makes me feel a lot more comfortable, because I know that most of the men in there are chill. It's not that I think that they are going to protect me, I'd also feel more comfortable walking into a cafe filled with women. No man has ever protected me from those who have harassed me or attempted sexual harm o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:07 PM
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Right nobody's saying it's easy for everyone or always easy... just that it's a normal, natural part of the consent process. And rejection is common in every aspect of life. Everyone doesn't get every job they apply for. Everyone isn't invited to their co-worker's wedding. Everyone isn't is welcomed for friendship with a particular person, and so on and so forth. It's not that it's no big deal, or doesn't weigh on some people or cause them grief, it's just that it's the nature of consent. And co…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:04 PM
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Rejection is a normal, natural part of life, particularly in the dating process. If someone becomes desperate due to rejection they may need to take some time to work on processing rejection in a way that isn't harmful to them or anyone else. Nobody isn't saying it's a pleasant thing to be rejected. I don't even observe most people chalk it up to being 'character building'. It's just the nature of consent. And consent is a good thing. How would you suggest a woman reject someone who asks her out…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:01 PM
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No, not all of them. I was in plenty of vulnerable situations alone with good men who never harmed me too. Statistically that bears out. Most men and most women never harm anyone. Ultimately it's a small section of society who are harmful in this way, but sadly they are repeat offenders and rarely held accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:53 PM
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For which part? Almost everything I mentioned unless noted is based on actual data (but particular to the US). I had no beliefs about what was common until I actually read up on the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:48 PM
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Not sure, depends on why I'm being tasked with it and the person asking. I'm rarely the best person in the house to make one. If I'm making it for myself crusty sourdough toasted with a bit of olive oil in a pan, swiss, salami or proscuitto, spicy mustard, pickled jalapeños, a few thick slices of small campari tomatoes and a dab of mayo.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:47 PM
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Depending on the person it definitely can. The men getting out of the truck/out of the car when you're 9 and circling you and not letting you leave and nobody in earshot or the few adults who are not doing anything to help a child is definitely not usually an uplifting experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:44 PM
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It is and it isn't. The studies can vary widely too based not only on generation but age (for example in their 20s women are slightly (by 1 percent) more likely to cheat than men, and in every other decade of adult life less likely to cheat than men (but only by single digit percentages). Different countries also have some more variation (having mistresses in England for example is practically codified in law). The data removes suspicious survey answers and they have ways of eliminating dishones…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:42 PM
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It's definitely not a myth, just doesn't affect some people in a noticeable way. Others very much so. It can definitely destroy one's metabolism. It's so very individual though, as I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:32 PM
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They are but only by about 7%.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:43 PM
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Though in reality women cheat (only slightly) less than men. 80% of men never cheat and 87% of women never cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:43 PM
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Consenting adults can do what they like, however, most people only want to date and do date within four or five years of their age (and that is trending down to a smaller gap (closer to four than five now).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:39 PM
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What is this bullshit about 'working out' or 'exercising' being good for health but not actually helping weight loss. It takes both diet and exercise changes for most people to lose weight. 30 minutes a day of cardio is just for maintaining current weight (assuming you limit your calories). If you want to actually lose weight, most people have to both reduce their calories and increase the amount of time and intensity in their workouts. Also if you're not successful the first time your metabolis…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:18 PM
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Fully stocked pantry or fridge? Are we talking making it from only shelf-stable foods? Because canned bread sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:14 PM
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Or smoke or eat tuna, or bungee jump (okay the latter isn't a commonly done activity but still).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:13 PM
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Doesn't sound appropriate or relevant to everyone, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:13 PM
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Last day of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:12 PM
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Yeah, catcalls usually start (regardless of what we look like) when we're children and are generally not fun or even neutral experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:12 PM
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Who advocates for hitting on random women in the street? I haven't seen any pill do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:42 PM
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I mean in this scenario they don't have to say 'I want to fuck you and that's it'. Anyone with even a smidgen of social IQ will put it something more like "I don't want anything formal or serious but it's a good time hanging out with you/spending time with you/kissing you... how does that sound?" et cetera.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:41 PM
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This is general, obviously there are some exceptions: Testing, designing scenarios, environments, experience with an attempt to change someone's behavior or mind without talking to them openly and honestly about it. Changing your behavior or being to something that isn't genuine to you dishonest about yourself or your beliefs or life just to try to illicit a particular behavior or response from someone in a surreptitious way. For example, pretending to be really into a band she likes that you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:35 PM
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I'd be attracted to them as a friend, not a lover/date, what have you. That's literally (except for demisexuals who are a small percentage of society) what the distinction is between a friend and someone who is a date/boyfriend/girlfriend et cetera. Otherwise I'd be dating everyone with a cool personality who also liked me back and I would have no friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:16 PM
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I don’t advocate for women to love who they don’t want to. That's a relief. What I’m suggesting is monogamy. Monogamy exists. It's popular with many people but not with everyone. Monogamy isn't going to make particular women like particular men more. Many would rather date than (if they're not inclined to monogamy) be pressured/cajoled/forced into it. As far as I know, no sector of the Christian religion have made it okay for men to have multiple wives, There are fundamentalists groups through t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 03:14 PM
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Also, rappers, athletes, and players are all commonly known to sleep around and cheat. Not really. There are a bunch of public figures who draw headlines but you'll notice even on an average NBA team most of the guys are living quiet love lives...it's not 'exciting' enough to make headlines. Same as in any industry where fame is involved. I don't have to be Amber to know this because she went on a public tirade about how she wants to date a more traditional upstanding man after her child's fathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:40 PM
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In many cases, it can, and it does. We'll have to simply disagree in the 'in many cases it can, and does' statement of yours. You might just be a bit more shallow/materialistic than other people, and that's fine. You're saying me dating someone I'm not attracted to at all just to get laid or go on a date would be less shallow and less materialistic? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:23 PM
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No the excitement I feel with someone I'm attracted to is entirely different than discomfort. The former is still a prodding, rockety ride, that stokes my already high libido and engages my mind and body. Sure it's an upheaval of sort but not an uncomfortable one. The latter is not of interest to most people. Some people of course embrace the discomfort when there is no pleasure or satisfaction or fullfillment but those are fringe people usually with emotional problems or mental vulnerabilities …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:09 PM
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It also ignores the overall demographic trajectories for all regions of Earth will eventually (as it already has for most of the world) reach below replacement level and finally collapse. Eventually all the world will be consumed by modernism if it hasn't already (at this point it's basically just sub saharan africa) It is complex I agree. There's nothing simple about it. But it's still totally doable, and always, always, always there are smarter, more beneficial, non-draconian ways to build or …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:04 PM
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Why are you using 'rappers' as though it's inherently a bad thing? As though all rappers act the same. Plenty of rappers (and people of every type of musical persuasion or any type of career) live quiet lives you know nothing about because drama makes headlines and they don't have it. Also unless you are Amber Rose pretty sure you don't know who she wants and why she dates the people she does. Thinking you know the inner lives of these couples without actually living in their walls is fan/hatewa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:50 PM
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Lol. This thing you call a "spark" is bs. You can use another term if you want. Basically what I'm talking about is the connection that sets a 'just a friend' apart from a romantic or sex interest. I used it specifically so people would understand, as it's not as verbose as a longer explanation. You can use connection, chemistry, mutual attraction, whatever, it serves the same purpose. and I stated that they can. Not always and not with everyone. For instance plenty of people myself included wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:45 PM
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Yep and Jack Black had an active love life well before he was rich, famous, or even getting regular work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:50 PM
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Nah I need to want someone physically and personality-wise to move forward/agree to a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:49 PM
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Or just some people are attracted to a variety of shapes, sizes, colors, types. If I date a guy who is not 'magazine/conventionally handsome' it's not because his great personality 'makes up for it', it's because I physically find desireable and hot features that the magazine doesn't. It's involuntary what physically turns me on. It often doesn't match up with magazines, movies, television, or 'rating scales'. And that's true for many people. Even here, devoted pill types with a similar mentalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:48 PM
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Yeah extroversion isn't necessarily better... it's just often painted that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:43 PM
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It depends on the person. For me I need to be hot for you physically and determine that very quickly. For others, I enjoy the quote "It wasn't just his body...it was the way he animated it". For still others (demisexuals) they don't know if they're attracted to someone/desire them until they get to know them better... everyone is just a question mark until a connection develops. It takes all kinds. On average most people know if they physically desire someone within moments of seeing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:40 PM
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Yep. 40% of relationships start with online dating, it's the number one source for relationships (next closest being professiona/academic social circles and after that next closest being family/friend social connections/introductions). Most of that online dating is apps. Most people (US data) end up in relationships who want them (eventually). So yeah a good chunk confirms that there is a lot of variety in what men and women want and that it works out for a good chunk of the population. Also onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:37 PM
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Plenty of women readily admit we aren't interested in someone who doesn't turn us on physically. I think the contention comes in when random people try to tell us what DOES turn us on physically and don't believe us when we explain that yes, some of us like big guys with a gut and some of us like short dudes, not "in spite" of their gut, not "in spite" of their height... for these qualities and so many others they possess. What I find handsome you might not. What I find handsome my sisters do no…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:34 PM
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Yeah sure, it's hard for (most not all) people to lose weight. And 90% fail. It's much easier to quit smoking than to lose weight and keep it off for most people... and smoking is one of the most addictive habits out there. One of the main differences is you can go cold turkey (pun intended) off cigs, alcohol (well after weaning), gambling, et cetera. You can't go cold turkey off food. Eventually... you gotta eat. Imagine telling an alcoholic they have to limit themselves to three thimblefuls of…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:28 PM
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Plenty of articles from therapists self reporting that their offices are filled with single childless middle-aged women going through a midlife crisis Sure there are... but the reasons aren't dating life. Do you know the stresses caused by having children, by living (as in most countries) where most people are separated from their work and live in an atomized society? Where artists can't pursue their passion and scientists don't have time to continue innovating in the lab because they have mouth…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:26 PM
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while getting all of the benefits of hard work. Benefits of hard work? The hardest workers in the US get the lowest pay, and most workers get shit benefits. The US is behind a majority of countries in things like parental leave and vacation/sick pay which are considered bare bones basics in even less developed countries. Regardless of who among those 90% were hardworking and their goal and who were not, the fact of the matter is, almost everyone who attempts will fail. That doesn't mean you shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:19 PM
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Apparently you're unaware of frat parties an engineering and arts schools....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:17 PM
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Also the guy at the corporate convention, with a lanyard. But we don't extrapolate these to 'all men' or 'all musicians' or 'all frat guys'. Most men aren't rapists... the ones who are are almost always reoffenders with mutliple victims. Same with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:17 PM
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The guy that brings his acoustic guitar to the party, and croons melodic pop songs. Will also put something in your drink. Just casually stating musicians are likely to be date rapists, that's a wild take. Additionally, I personally would not be attracted to anyone who takes out their guitar at a party in most cases, certainly not if they were just playing pop songs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:16 PM
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Kinda of like how Amber Rose is stuck forever dating rappers that will cheat on her. No plenty of people with many sex partners in a lifetime never cheat. I'm not aware of your example's love life or whatever but it doesn't extrapolate to a trend defining all or most women (most women have multiple sex partners in a lifetime, though only about half as many as the average man).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:14 PM
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People with loved ones don't end up I nursing homes. Yes they do in the US, most children even if they WANT to keep their parents at home can't afford to watch over them/provide medical monitoring because of needing to work outside the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:12 PM
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Most men average 7 sexual partners and 1 to 2 marriages (US) in a lifetime. Most women average 4 sexual partners. First sexual partner for men and women is most commonly before age 18, but over 90% (with very close gender parity) by age 25. I'd have to check but a majority of men whoever want to/plan to get married in lifetime do it by early 30s. Now granted in some cases there are things like divorce before 33, et cetera so there are still single guys who are (or were until the divorce at least…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:06 PM
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I mean I care that I have enough to take care of myself. I could not give a shit what a person I date makes as long as they are not neglecting pets or expecting me to support them/pay their bills. Consider that almost everyone (US) gets laid, has relationships, and either gets married or moves in with a love interest ultimately (mostly before their 40s). Most people in the US are poor or on a knife's edge of separation from it. People are dating broke dudes, unemployed dudes, dudes in debt. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:58 PM
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Just because you can find unhealthy thin people doesn't suddenly make being fat healthy The reverse is true as well. I for example at a size medium in junior's still even well after being in the junior's age range am not as healthy as my obese friend whose levels are great, can do things in yoga I would never hope to do, eats a lot more healthy, varied, home-cooked meals et cetera. If you looked at us someone like you would assume I'm healthier. You just can't know. Someone who is a chainsmoker …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:56 PM
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Those people made poor choices and they have bad discipline/decision making/no guidance. What people? Making what bad decisions? Sorry but a lot of women are depressed bc they’re trying to Buck the system, be corporate juggernauts, I'd agree that the work culture (particular in the US) is shit, but not a gendered thing or because women want to be 'corporate juggernauts', plenty of us are trying to get well out of the corporate world. Promiscuity is relative... consensual sex with willing adults …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:54 PM
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I'm saying that based on the data all those men have had those experiences and are in those relationships... with women. You denying it would be an argument that they were actually mostly with men. It's not bad faith, it's making a point that the only way your argument would be supported by the numbers and percentages of men having relationships, sex, et cetera is if they weren't having them with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:49 PM
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No, not really. At least there haven't been any effective ways presented yet. Yes really. The world is overpopulated and enough babies overall are being born, just certain parts of the world are not. The work that needs doing can pay better, offer better staffing, a work-life balance, et cetera to entice enough people to enter certain fields. Technology can supplement but we need to take care of the people as more things become automated et cetera. it's telling that criticism of the market is al…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:17 PM
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Well I didn't suggest 'neo liberal' I just said 'immigration'. And that's just one of a million things, as noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:14 PM
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Women usually don't enjoy sharing things with short, unemployed guys like me. Some definitely do. I have greatly enjoyed dating short unemployed guys. Everyone enjoys people they find hot. Everyone enjoys a nice lifestyle. Most people are poor and ordinary and yet most people still find lust and love (about 98% in the US by a decade before retirement age), likely higher after.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:55 AM
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Most women who marry marry by their late 20s, at least in the US. And most people who marry actually do like each other and find each other attractive, they aren't just 'settling'.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:39 AM
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The society people claim to want to protect gets worse when there aren't social safety nets for its people and its children. But regardless, there are plenty of things I don't want my taxes to pay for. Like new camaros for soldiers just going over to protect opium and oil fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:37 AM
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Men have every right to reject a woman they don't want. But if you think quite a few older women aren't dating and marring and having sex with people they like and who like them you'd be wrong. It's why retirement homes have STI problems. Old people do be fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:35 AM
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Programming, Wi-Fi, GPS, Bluetooth, modern security systems for the home, Kevlar, fire escapes, life rafts, circular saws, medical syringes, electric hot water heaters, solar heaters, feeding tubes, signal flares, coffee filters, several varieties of rocket fuel, chemotherapy treatments, underwater telescopes....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:31 AM
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Antidepressants are given for depression... not for dating problems; it's pretty irrelevant to bring them up. In fact, the only recognized 'relationship'-related cause of depression is grieving a deceased spouse or long-term partner. Women are more likely than men to seek out help, get a diagnosis, and continue an advised prescription, particularly regarding mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:20 AM
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Yes anyone's freedom to say no to romantic advances/sexual advances trump anyone's else's right to be sheltered from the possibility of rejection from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:19 AM
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It's absolutely natural to have hurt feelings when you're rejected. And to take care of yourself after as you process it should it affect you deeply.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:08 AM
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According to my therapist, both were directly linked to my lack of romantic life and by the amount and ways of rejection. Then either your therapist is a quack or the 'linked to' isn't 'caused by'. No legitimate mental health professional or institution would support them in saying that the 'cure' to your depression is 'girlfriend'. Humans do need human touch. It doesn't have to be romantic though to provide that health to their life. It can be family, friends, mentors, hugs, contact sports et c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:49 AM
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Yeah and look again, at the percentage of men who WANT to be single in their 20s. The average age of first marriage for men is in their 30s. Also look at the data, what's the percentage of those singles who are single by choice and not looking to date right now. Look at men who are sexually active (and as in recently, not just lost their virginity ten years ago).More than 70% on the COVID GSS data and more than 80% on the more recent data). Also keep in mind, women in their late twenties still u…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:46 AM
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Most 'hoes' aren't dating partners who would be humiliated by them. They are dating guys who don't 'scare the hoes' and aren't 'scared by the hoes'.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:39 AM
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I mean your plan worked for you. Most people who marry in their early twenties divorce. I don't think any path is a one-size-fits-all. I would be miserable married or not having my career (or one that is similarly satisfying) but I also have friends whose path doesn't look like mine and it was right for them. Depression and SSRI prescriptions aren't giving because of women's dating lives, lmao. In fact the only main cause of depression that is relationship related is grieving a spouse or partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:38 AM
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Most people outside of arranged marriages and sugar relationships are attracted to each other (at least at the start) and usually when they first get married too if they go that route.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:22 AM
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Not to mention it was an OK Cupid blog, not data... and the OK Cupid blog showed that women reached out to and messaged a broader and more diverse variety of men with a variety of appearances compared to the men reaching out to a variety of women by significant margins....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:21 AM
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It's unscientific noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:19 AM
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Not to mention most people don't know your bank account, your dick size, or even what your abs look like/feel like before they decide to get intimate with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:19 AM
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Well according to your philosophy they'll land guys anyway who are sweet and thoughtful Betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:18 AM
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On OKCupid women still reached out to a broader variety and diversity of men and messaged them compared to men messaging women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:17 AM
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Probably lasts longer than the person who forces themselves to date someone they don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:12 AM
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I was there before dating apps and women were picky back then as well. Not as picky as they are now but still delusional. Desire isn't delusional. Everyone has a right to say no. Everyone wants who they want. Doesn't mean they will get to be with that person. Understand that there is little that women can offer an independent man. Sex - you can rent better. Food - get real they can't and won't cook. Company - I have an Xbox. They have nothing to bargain with. We know this but they don't. Most wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:11 AM
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The amount of straight women (and a few of them with LGBTQ language in their social media profiles even though they are straight) Pretty sure they know who they are attracted to or if they are queer more than you do. " are you gaaayy or something??" Internalized homophobia is a thing. Not only do these women have inflated standards, It's just consent. That's literally it. Whether or not you think she's being reasonable or I think she's being petty is irrelevant. Romantic and sexual relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:03 AM
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Immigration would help Japan. There are a million things that would help Japan that don't involve pressuring women there to just put out and shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:47 AM
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If society goes from having healthy family formation, stable fertility rates, good mental health indicators, robust social networks and then all these indicators fall off a cliff there is definitely something very fucked up with society. If there is some huge societal collapse there are a million ethical ways to help it. The solution to 'unhealthy family formation' is not 'unhealthy coercion, pressure, or manipulation of people to date people they don't want'.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:47 AM
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I'd say the person who is trying to convince others to date them even if they don't want to is the one getting in the way of two consenting adults, the two who actually DO both find each other appealing. Why would I drop the guy I'm dating and choose a stranger I find unappealing over him?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:46 AM
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Yeah some people's attraction grows broader and some people's attraction narrows. I've been an adult for more than a few years and yet physically my 'types' haven't changed. Overall the personality I find attractive hasn't changed. The only change I made was to be more careful and making sure I was denying people who don't believe in preventative medicine or are even mildly wishy-washy about bodily autonomy rights. And that didn't narrow by much my values were already pretty set there. Most of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:44 AM
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And what happens when a vast majority of women only like a small minority of men? How do you think that could turn out for society. The appropriate response would not be to force, pressure, manipulate, or propagandize women into dating those other men. It would have nothing to do with influencing dating decisions at all. Do we go back to Islam. I'm in the US so here you'd be talking about Christian fundamentalism, people trying to convert someone to Islam is pretty rare here, meanwhile you can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:41 AM
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Yeah most couples are straight and 98% of people pair up in some way (marriage, dating, living together) before retirement age in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:34 AM
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I was also reading that shaving was promoted during WW2 because of nylon shortages so instead of wearing panty hose some women started going bare-legged and a smoother appearance would sometimes mimic the sheen of the hose.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:34 AM
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They still don't. You have men in this very subreddit occasionally railing that they want women to be pressured to shave again and not have hair in their pits or have dyed hair in their pits. It's not even a 'what they are attracted to' thing because they wouldn't date those women anyway for entirely unrelated reasons...and yet they still want them to change.' Hairlessness was popular in various cultures over the millennia, but in the US trimmed and groomed but not bare is the most popular accor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:32 AM
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When women say “sorry I can’t help who I’m attracted to” they are not being entirely honest with themselves or us. It's literally a physical involuntary reaction. People ask themselves internally "Can I picture myself kissing this person's mouth" and so on and so forth. Not necessarily in words/internal monologue, but as a sort of 'ping' in the mind. If they acknowledged that the abundance of advances they received, Plenty of women don't receive an "abundance" of advances, and some arrive when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:29 AM
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The brain runs on carbs. Also people who do low-carb diets (the really low carb ones) are grumpy and reek to high heaven.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:09 AM
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To be honest watching fat people eat makes me wanna vomit Sounds like you might need to work on that. Do you never leave your home?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:08 AM
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Not at all. Several big girls on my water polo team had visible abs. Just huge thighs (muscular but also fatty) and big butts. Massive calves with some muscle, sure, but also plump.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:05 AM
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You have never seen the self-assurance in the sex appeal of a big-bellied man in NYC in a tank top. In all seriousness, plenty of us love fat men. Most men in the US are fat yet almost all get laid by 17 or 25, and most marry. And most are attracted to and found attractive by that person at least at the beginning of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:03 AM
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So all the fat men who are laid by on average age 17 and who are mostly in relationships by their 20s or 30s are really gay bears? Who are all the straight women dating since most men (US) are fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:01 AM
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Obesity is correlated with a laundry list of negative health outcomes and diseases. It is also very representative of the kind of lifestyle a person leads. True but when you look at someone you don't know that their cholesterol, weight, and blood pressure improved significantly over the last 4 months, you only see what they look like. Meanwhile, plenty of thin people are more unhealthy with more unhealthy lifestyles (cigarettes, coke, opiates, alcohol, amphetamines, yo-yo-dieting, et cetera) but…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:58 AM
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To put it in perspective, in the US 90% of people who attempt to lose weight will never succeed. Only 2% of people won't have have dates, sex, relationships (and often marriage) before retirement age.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:54 AM
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90% of people who attempt to lose weight fail, either in the initial effort(s) or they gain it back in a year or two. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try if you and your doctor have some good ideas though. That being said, you don't lose weight so some jerk on a subreddit will stop calling you a 'worthless landwhale' you do it to get the health YOU want and/or the body YOU want. At the end you might still not get dates regardless of gender, might as well work on the goals you (and your doctor) s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:53 AM
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Yeah people don't seem to realize that some of us are physically attracted to more than half the men we see on a dating app but then we go to their profile and they have a dealbreaker. I had to ultimately swipe left on a ton of people I found hot as hell because they wanted a) children and/or b) a serious/formal relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:48 AM
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Eh plenty of Karen footage out there where the Karen is young, fit and conventionally attractive but just an awful person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:32 AM
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The 60 was just an example for percentages. Obviously you can still do it in actuality but not in a row at one venue for a couple of hours. You ask out a couple of different school mates every day. You ask out three women at the bar a few nights a week. A few women at the club on weekends. The person who danced with you at the festival. And a few dozen you send 'swipe rights' and messages to online, et cetera. And when you add to that meet up and activities with a no flirt/only friendship policy…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:29 AM
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Most relationships (US) begin online....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:26 AM
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Well those "statistical anomalies" will be pretty damaged and it isn't sure they will be in a relationship in the future or have a family if they wanted one No they aren't intrinsically damaged by no sex and no romance. There are millions of ways you can make sure you are healthy and happy that have nothing to do with those. He has never been rejected, he wait that women come to him and he still can have 4 new partners a week if he wants to (thanks dating apps) Yes and I have a coworker with alm…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:25 AM
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Too based. Give me a sensitive musician or music aficionado any day of the week. I'm seeing the latter right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:20 AM
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A pussy is someone afraid to dress how they want because they think some random CoD player will call them girly. A pussy is someone who doesn't speak out or offer support when they see a child being hurt. A pussy is someone who tries to commit harm against someone anonymously on the internet. A pussy isn't someone who is merely a sensitive soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:20 AM
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Again, you don't need vacation to move abroad. Moving costs money and you need a to afford it. The visa process is not affordable nor accessible to most Americans. Many cannot become fluent enough in the language to get good work and can only work at low paying tourist attractions that cater to English-speaking parties. Most Americans don't have $1,000 in the bank, much less the ability to break a lease. Yes there are some who can... most of those who can afford to... don't necessarily want to. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:57 AM
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Have you ever been rejected? Yes. Most women who date have been rejected. Most experienced it for the first time in middle school when asking guys to a dance. Yes even the popular girls were occasionally rejected. It continues to be experienced by almost everyone who regularly tries to date. Once or twice would be a pretty uncommon rejection rate, particularly if someone has dated for a few years and not been in long-term relationships during that time. It's true that men do more of the asking (…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:54 AM
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Yes, and they don't save any of the money. Most have cars and most don't rent rooms Most aren't able to save. They save up $800 and need to use it for a minor medical procedure. They save up $10,000 and need to use it to pay the plumber. What have you. Most cities in the US are spread out, not walkable, and with little or no reliable transportation. Cars unfortunately are quite necessary for some or it would take two days to walk to get groceries and they wouldn't be able to sleep if they wanted…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:51 AM
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Insisting isn't bad, it's quite common (especially in younger generations, you might find it's less common in people 45 and older). I insist on paying half regardless of what my date's potential intentions or expectations are. I don't believe in starting a dating connection (regardless of how long or how casual or how formal or how short-lived) in imbalance, regardless. And this is pretty common. Again, the insisting on splitting the bill is more common in younger generations. You can make whate…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:47 AM
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So no evidence. I understand that you are frustrated but frustrations are not evidence. Of if you're saying it's just a theory I also have a theory then. I have a theory that 'free sexual marketplaces' I hesitate to even use the phrase as it's more of a gimmick/PUA/pill term than a universally accepted thing produce results that create no serious problems that aren't solved by addressing the person, not the random woman in their vicinity who they have designs on. You are taking your own personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:45 AM
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I speak of plenty of rejection over years without a single acceptance or a compliment. True if someone is asking ten people out for years politely and in the right contexts and rejected every time, makes friends with people and never meets potential dates who accept them that way et cetera, they are still experiencing that they are just a statistical anomaly. It's almost guaranteed they will still be in a relationship by retirement age if they keep asking. "you look good/cute/hot but I already h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:41 AM
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There is no need to 'cull' men just because a small percentage aren't getting their dicks wet, lmao. Incel isn't a protected class nor should it be. Nobody owes anybody a fuck, or a kiss, or a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:32 AM
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Dating in your early twenties is fine... getting married in your early twenties is the indicator of divorce, not dating or even having a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:30 AM
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Nowadays, asking out the 60 people of the club is the best way to get kicked out. Well yeah, doing that shows no social IQ not to mention makes everyone feel like you aren't actually interested in the person just in any person. Asking out people you like doesn't mean asking out dozens of people in an hour like they're a production line instead of people. A guy of the climbing hall got a warning for having asked out one woman. So he got a warning informing him that hitting on people is frowned up…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:22 AM
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An estimated 60 percent of nursing home residents never have visitors. National Center for Health Statistics. Again, a majority do not get visitors. If I find the study on phone calls I'll post it here too (it also included things like Facetime).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:18 AM
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That's just consent. You want what you want. Going after someone you don't want just to get your rocks off would be incredibly deceptive and highly unethical. Some women and women men have a lot of dealbreakers it's true, it's not a gendered thing. Being 'picky' is just not going with someone you're not into. What I think is picky you might think is reasonable. Some might even think you need to tighten your threshold for if you'll consider someone for a date. For example, some people think I'm t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:15 AM
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My principal point is that BECAUSE everyone makes romantic relationships the cornerstone of fulfilling their intimacy needs No not everyone. It's common yes, but not healthy and definitely not everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:11 AM
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Yes. Still more men approach but there is a higher number and percentage of women approaching than ever in human history. One of the top popular dating apps right now lets only women make the initial approach. Even in middle school plenty of guys and girls were rejected when asking people to dances. It's a normal part of dating and just life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:45 AM
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None in good standing would suggest this as a 'cure for these things'. They might advise therapeutic touch which is done or sex therapy/surrogates but for sexual issues, not for extreme loneliness or depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:40 AM
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The point is that all evidence and common sense suggests that if too many men are not sufficiently involved in mating and intimate relationships with women, then problems arise. Pray point me to this evidence. Most men are getting laid. Most are marrying or getting into long-term relationships. Most have multiple partners in a lifetime. Younger generations get married later in life (by just on average a couple of years) and have lower rates and percentages of divorce compared to older generation…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:21 AM
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It is nore a question of will than means. Once you live there, you will try to find a partner, not before or on holidays. Again most people in the US don't get much paid vacation if at all (certainly not enough to meet and court a spouse). Most don't have the flexibility at work to take off for more than a couple of days even if they do have paid vacation. Also they have children to tend to, ailing parents (especially after COVID), businesses to look after where the work or even management of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:18 AM
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I speak from experience. I'm literally practicing what I preach in a poorer country. Yes and you are very lucky that even in your poorer country you are able to do so. Most aren't able to. If hard work resulted for most people in enough wealth and job flexibility in the US to travel to another country for long enough to meet a life partner then day laborers, produce pickers, nurses, teachers, and machinists would all be millionaires with four months paid vacation every year. Where is your experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:15 AM
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It's not exclusionary to simply not want someone. It's not exclusionary to simply not force yourself to fuck someone you're not interested in. Being inclusive to someone doesn't mean dating them, fucking them, marrying them, et cetera. As I said, I have no certainty that left to its own devices the sexual market place will not reach a tolerable equilibrium in terms of levels of male sexual exclusion. There are plenty of solutions to building/continuing a healthy society that don't involve any pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:11 AM
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No some of the data is brand new. GSS data and census figures are fairly recent. Imo it means assisted, voluntary passage to the afterlife Assisted suicide has nothing to do with dating. This is a bizarre and illogical take.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:05 AM
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The issue is the very high amount of rejection and the low amount of positive feedbacks that some people receive. It's normal and healthy to experience rejection and learn how to deal with it. Most people aren't compatible. It often takes dates with a variety of people before someone enters into something like marriage with one of them. Thinking dating isn't going to be more rejection than acceptance seems unrealistic. Your friends are outliers. Most people who actually ask people out regularly …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:03 AM
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Porn addiction isn't considered an actual diagnosis by any mental or physical health professional. More than 90% of men in the US watch porn and more than 70% of women (higher in Utah which is number one in the union). do not think it is proven that women are biologically hardwired to not want to be with a very high percentage of men once women have truly free choice. The entire history of humanity is living beyond base biology. Buildings, organizations, shoes, contacts, health supplements, prot…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 11:01 AM
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I mean I've learned another language (and working on my third and fourth) but in my country (US) most people never learn a second language. They may take classes in school for a few years but promptly forget it. Most people (again in my country, US) cannot afford to travel to another nation. It's particularly harder for younger generations who have higher housing costs and more stagnated wages than most older generations. Americans are mostly living paycheck to paycheck, in jobs that don't have …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:57 AM
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The answer for stopping brownshirts has nothing to do with dating, pressuring, coercing, or manipulating people into being with someone they don't want to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:55 AM
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What do you mean 'we can make something else from her'? Lmao. the objective is to making them flock to men "Making" someone do that is the Nazi shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:53 AM
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Most in USA have the ability to when young. No, they don't. Most people in the US cannot afford the visa, passport, and travel/accommodation costs to go overseas for long enough to find a partner (not to mention getting enough time off work to do so). And maybe by 50 they will have like 300k saved up and can retire early overseas. Not in the US. Most people live paycheck to paycheck (even if they do eat rice and beans) and don't have savings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 10:50 AM
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No they don't. By brownshirts I mean in the West. You don't think the west has nukes? Or that some of the people making these decisions aren't by every metric except the garb a brownshirt? Or we give them families or they will march. Give who to families or who will march? Do you really want Nazism 2.0 because Becky wants to party with the girls at age 30, have brunches, meet hotties and drink Starbucks until bursting? Pretty sure forcing the Starbucks girl to be raped is pretty nazi-ish. No the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:28 AM
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There is a post with links from this very subreddit that goes into it with the source and the breakdown. It also notes that a vast majority of men have had sex in that last year (closing in on 80%) which is particularly impressive considering how many people lost use of their dick with long COVID, how many people likely divorced recently, how many people are employed away from spouses for things like the DOD (largest employer in the US) et cetera. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/commen…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:24 AM
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Users... not creating content. Read again. Most women aren't making content for TikTok. If you go to TikTok for serious content without a skeptical eye or a realization that most of the stuff is fed to you with editing and agenda, I've got a bridge to sell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:21 AM
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US Census, US Survey on Sexual Health, GSS, population of unmarried adults living together with children in the same household. To be fair the data tends to stop at age 60-65 where 98% of people have either been married, dated multiple people, or are living together... it could be closer to 99% by age 70 or older.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:18 AM
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Now do the massive amount of shit women talk about short, balding, fat or broke men with absolute impunity. Most women are close to broke, most men are close to broke. Most of them date (more often each other but it depends). Short guys still get married and have kids, some of whom are short and some are not. Plenty of women not only don't talk 'massive shit' about short, balding, fat, or broke men, but many of us date them. If someone calls a fat chick 'worthless land whale' and she responds by…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:15 AM
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However, I fail to see how someone can be lonely when they're seeing and interacting with their partner very often. Well whether you personally can see it or not it's a thing. You can be lonely (or depressed) even with a loving boyfriend or girlfriend. Loneliness generally isn't 'cured' by dating or even getting into a relationship. It usually takes many things coming together to overcome loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:05 AM
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Well true because there isn't a Soviet Union and hasn't been for quite a long time. As for the brownshirts, some already have nukes. That doesn't mean your response is to offer them a girl, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:04 AM
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Regardless, finding a date doesn't cure either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:03 AM
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Doesn't seem to be the exception. Most people are ordinary, not wealthy, not super fit, not conventionally attractive, yet most men (and a slightly smaller percentage of women) are sexually active, marry by their late twenties or early thirties, and have multiple sexual partners and relationships within a lifetime. Arranged marriages exist but are rare (particularly in the US). Marriages of convenience exist but are rare. Most people who get together (whether to date or fuck or a relationship or…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:01 AM
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TikTok is an entertainment platform and what you view on there is based on what the algorithm finds excites you the most/you interact with the most. TikToks that go viral enough to be 'popular' with a large variety of people are often entertainers, content creators, making things for view and to provoke, they're not representative of the average woman. The average woman (most women) aren't making any content on TikTok. People view what they find entertaining not what is realistic. Same goes for …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:55 AM
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Not sure which country you're in but most women in the US are married or in long-term relationships by their thirties. You're talking about a smaller percentage of women. Men too. Most men in the US are in a long-term relationship or married by their early thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:45 AM
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I doubt they even ask out ten women they like per week.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:43 AM
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It's really not. Some of the struggles we face overlap with your and some (overall) are distinct. But it's not easy for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:42 AM
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Or just leave to a country where you are the Chad. Most men and women have neither the means nor the flexibility in their lives or regular obligations to do this (US).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:41 AM
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You're painting an unrealistic scenario. Most women (US) have multiple sexual partners (though only a little more than half of what men have on average) in a lifetime. People who 'sleep around' don't have problems finding marriage ultimately. Most get married or get into long term relationships with people who are fine with their history or don't care about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:39 AM
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Either way, the solution to preventing terrorism from the small percentage of incels who do it isn't to pressure someone who doesn't want them to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:36 AM
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Rejection is a normal part of dating, regardless of gender. If it hasn't happened to someone yet they probably haven't dated much/don't ask out that many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:30 AM
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Women in the workplace isn't the cause of that, with them working came more income to spend on products and services, not to mention unless you were middle class/upper class you DID have to work as a woman before women's liberation (as maids, as nurses, as nannies, as teachers, as laundresses et cetera) Wages didn't stagnate and housing prices don't rise because women work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:28 AM
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I mean a campaign like that just seems misguided. Most women (particularly in Italy) know that it's best if they want a child they have one by their mid-thirties or before 40 before they are even a teen. I feel like posters like that would cause more people to get a bisalp to permanently prevent pregnancy than it would encourage women who don't want babies to have babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:26 AM
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Online dating makes dancing monkeys out of decent men, A decent man would never make a mockery or a 'dancing monkey' out of himself. I know this creates its own set of serious problems that women have to navigate but in case you haven’t gathered yet im sort of despairing at how fucked things have gotten and I don’t see a solution in sight. What is fucked up about someone choosing to be with someone they want if that person also wants them? Guys should have enough self respect and decency to avoi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:22 AM
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Same. I have dated people of all sorts in this way. Being rich doesn't make you a better dinner companion or better in bed or more fun or more kind (or even more relaxed/cool). There are rich jerks and poor jerks. There are wonderful people of a variety of incomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:19 AM
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Capitalism and its consequences definitely make it difficult for people to go out in the evenings and meet their community, difficult to have time and energy in between work and side hustles to prepare for dates, reduce third spaces and them being made for people to loiter to get to know their neighbors or flirt with someone at the park while waiting for sunset or what have you. Arts budgets slashed so there are fewer things going on in the community on weekends where you can meet people or take…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:16 AM
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If you are suffering a deep loneliness or depression, getting a gf isn't going to cure it, even if it's a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:11 AM
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Solve what problem? I could be misunderstanding you, please correct me, but there are many ways to handle and quell brownshirts that don't have anything to do with dating or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:09 AM
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In the US there are more (and a higher percentage of) sexless adult women right now than men. Most people are straight and most of them get married or into long term relationships (more than 95% before 50 and approximately 98% by 60-65). Thus, we should be starting with any voluntary measures to decrease the number of male untouchables to a manageable level. What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:08 AM
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They're not the same but in (some) ways they can actually be deeper. I have a bond with one of my sisters that nothing compares to, it is the deepest, truest bond I know, though obviously I feel very differently about romantic interests, and they are special to me in their own way it's nothing as vast or connected as this bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:05 AM
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Co-op living spaces Sisters who live together Five friends who buy a house together A punk DJ acquaintance of mine lives in Toronto (incredibly expensive housing) and basically has this with traveling musicians (sometimes is just a night while a visitor is in town), and sometimes friends who then stay for months or years (one for a decade) and pay the rent or contribute to groceries, or do other work to keep the place in good condition et cetera. Granted some have been close friends and some hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:02 AM
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Even going from no relationship to a good relationship doesn't cure loneliness or depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:57 AM
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GF/BF is not a cure for loneliness or depression. Some of those who have actually been in relationships will tell you that the loneliest they ever felt was not during the years they pined for a partner, but while sleeping in bed next to her. You can be happy, healthy, and fulfilled without romance or sex (physiologically you generally do need to get one off now and again to reduce atrophy/cancer risk/pelvic wall issues, but that doesn't require a partner). No doctor (whether physical health or m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:57 AM
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Also some men and women (myself included) are attracted to fat people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:53 AM
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It would be illogical considering most men (US, younger in many other countries) are married or in long-term relationships before their 40s. Most get laid before the end of their 17th year, more than 90% by age 25. It's only about 2% that remain unmarried with no long term relationships or sex. Lower, because there are women in that 2% and there is a much higher percentage of women asexuals for example than men who are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:51 AM
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That's not true at all, most are sexually active by the time they reach the end of their 17th year (US), most are married or in a long-term relationship (usually several of the latter) before their 30s. You're talking about a 2% of people left before retirement age (actually earlier the studies usually stop at 60 or 65) without having experienced marriage or a long-term relationship. And most of that 2% is likely asexuals and most asexuals are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:40 AM
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You misspelled "lying" No, I mostly date men but occasionally date women. I've swiped right on people who didn't look that dissimilar to Lizzo. I never swipe right on someone I'm not genuinely attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:38 AM
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I grew up in a progressive part of the country and haven't been an adult that many years and regardless of what media I consumed or was exposed to the messages were rarely more uplifting than demanding ('get into bikini shape', 'body hair is gross', 'play hostess', 'periods should be secrets', 'don't look desperate', 'smile', 'A in class, why not an A+', 'you need a makeover for him to like you', and on and on and on. Meanwhile so much media for men tells them they are a strong confident lumberj…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:36 AM
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I mean if I were a big black woman I might find it a compliment. As a pale size medium one who never wears feathers or neon I'd just find it a curious and confusing compliment but a compliment nonetheless. That being said I find her attractive (I have swiped right on women who look somewhat like her) but don't necessarily think my boyfriend would. It's all relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:34 AM
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At the end of the day, they still crave validation from being desired by the opposite gender. It doesn't seem like gay dudes on the whole resent straight guys just because straight guys aren't attracted to them (even if they have crushes or unrequited love for those straight guys). But something like this would be pretty hard to get data for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:30 AM
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Actually a poster here the other data posted data showing the opposite... there were more sexless women out there than men (US). I believe it was the GSS data.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:28 AM
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I don't think anyone should 'lower their standards'. I think everyone should be open to the possibility they might be a different person five years from now, but nobody should date someone they're not attracted to just to get laid/get a date. The fact is, so many people look at me and assume they know the kind of guy or girl I'm into and generally they're wrong. Also I never know who is going to reject or accept me, it has nothing to do with their perceived 'status' or if they meet conventional …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:27 AM
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Protip: If a woman insists on paying half the bill, she doesn't want another date with you. I guess all the people I've gone on second dates with have been imaginary? A majority of people in the US believe the first date should be split/pay your own bill, regardless of gender. You'll second guess yourself or miss out on potentially the lust of your night or the love of your life if you assume someone insisting on paying for themselves isn't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:09 AM
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I am from a Nordic country, where it is a given that the check be paid separately when dining out. The man paying is not a part of our culture at all. This is true in the United States as well for the majority, almost 70% of Americans believe each party should pay for themselves or offer to split on dates (first dates in particular). The remaining 30% also includes older generations which are more likely to subscribe to this somewhat archaic idea. Keeping in mind, their entire lives where where …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 06:04 AM
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Communicating, processing emotions, sharing feelings... not throwing your controller at someone's head because you died in CoD or screaming epithets at someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:53 AM
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Short guys are as attractive to me as tall guys or medium-height guys. I don't care about salary/income but I won't date someone I have to be the sole financial support system for. So the examples you give are pretty even. As far as being on the spectrum, depends on the meltdown. If they scream hurtful things or talk in a movie theater while the movie is playing we're not going to gel. If they on the other hand have a panic attack and need to be escorted out I can do that. Or if they need me to …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:38 AM
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Western society is badly set up if one is to rely on these other relationships to fulfill their intimacy needs. That's just an impulse that you have... it doesn't bear out. And it's not a purely western thing. Research from all different cultures and influences shows that people can live happy healthy lives without sex but not without all human contact and connection. I used to think that work would be a good place to find new friends or whatever but at most workplaces I've seen, no one really h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:23 AM
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Paying a woman who by their biological nature The existence of the clit proves there are biological reasons for sex that have nothing to do with procreation. Also the fact that up to 40% of pregnancies end in natural miscarriages... and plenty of biologically hale people throughout history have chosen not to have kids or not had the luck to even if they were trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:16 AM
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Most divorces are filed for things like infidelity, lack of commitment, addiction, abuse. It's smart to divorce over things like that, especially if children are involved/at risk. As far as women not wanting relationships in general, not sure where you are, but relationship-wanting is pretty popular among men and women throughout the US (other countries too I just haven't looked so much at that data).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:13 AM
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I would agree that nobody in their right mind does. Plenty of people out of their minds do though, on niche subreddits like this one, and in Discord forums, and elsewhere in the virtual and actual world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:11 AM
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You don't know most women and streamers (entertainers) and content creation platforms aren't there to give you a realistic view of the average women or 'most women'.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:09 AM
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Women can not respond logically - it's seen over and over again. "It's seen over and over again" is hardly a logical way to come to a conclusion. You realize Twitch is an entertainment platform? Guests are often paid in money or by other means to be on someone's show? Sometimes they are selected (or the streamers themselves) for portraying a character, personality, or being provocative. Using entertainment/content creation platforms (YouTube, Twitch, TikTok, IG) as 'proof' of 'how women are' is …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:08 AM
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The point is, that when men express any kind of preference let alone a “requirement” they are met with chants of “man up” or accusations of misogyny, toxic masculinity, etc. I generally only observe this if it's not stated as a preference but rather trying to devalue women who just don't get their pp hard (you saw this with the Jordan Peterson backlash). He didn't understand that just because he (who is married and hasn't dated in almost half a century) doesn't find certain models hot, that they…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:06 AM
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Men aren’t obligated to do anything at all. Feel free to be celibate Most men (US) are having sex. Most men (and women) are (at least initially) attracted to the person they are fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:09 AM
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I would encourage you and anyone never to agree to a date with someone you don't want. In fact, it would be completely unethical to pretend to be interested in someone you're not just to get a date/get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:07 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 04:06 AM
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Data on people in retirement homes who have regular visits from family (US). A majority do not get visitors or phone calls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:58 AM
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No they don't. Nobody has an obligation to supply another person with sex, full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:54 AM
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No most couples are straight and 98% of people date and have sex (and most of them ultimately marry). So unless you think 98% of people are 'elite'/'top' percent (in which case I'd like to see what makes you think that) most people eventually get with someone where there is mutual attraction (at least at the beginning).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:48 AM
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You're just making things up now. I have been so very consistent on this in that when extreme situations such as the ones I mentioned are not applicable that it is rude to just cut contact. I think your assumptions about me are coming from an emotional place instead of a rational one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:44 AM
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We'd have to know the full context. If someone wasn't respecting her 'no'/was coercive, stalking her work/personal information/ threatened her et cetera, it's perfectly acceptable for her to drop all contact without explanation. It would also be acceptable for a guy to do this. If there has been no stalking/abuse/coercion/threats et cetera... then any semi-decent adult would simply type 'I don't feel we're compatible, and I wish you well' before unmatching or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:08 AM
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Everyone knows what ghosting is. It's when you simply disappear from an ongoing set of interactions. The original and most common use of the phrase is someone who you have dated multiple times/met in person multiple times suddenly drops communication for no discernible reason/blocks you/doesn't say goodbye. It's acceptable if someone is being coercive, stalking you, abusive, won't take 'no' for an answer, has threatened you or your family or friends, or assaulted you on a date or something. Reje…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:06 AM
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Right but if you had married before you both turned 25 you would have been likely to divorce. Notice the indication is marrying young not having a relationship young. Plenty of long-lasting couples meet when young but they have a long engagement and don't rush into marriage. Waiting until you are 25 or older (regardless of how old you are when you meet) improves your chances of not divorcing considerably.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:59 AM
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I don't know, we're heading closer and closer together in this respect. Just see extreme religious fundamentalists in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:33 AM
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They're perfectly visible if you enter one. Again, Southern California might be different as the "Hollywood standard" is still very strong there and there's a lot more drive for size zeros due to the part of the country and the movie industry. I'm not about to start snapping photos randomly in a Nordstrom just to satisfy someone on a Reddit thread. If you google it it will show you clothing and models though. Some of them are under 'Big and Tall'.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:25 AM
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Admittedly Southern California might be very different considering the "Hollywood standard" but in northern California, DC, Baltimore, Atlanta, they have them in Nordstrom, Neiman Marcus, and Kohl's.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:18 AM
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I can't speak for all of us, but it just means that there is no social obligation to force yourself to fuck people you don't want. That women's bodies are not just socially obligated to date specific men (or any men, or anyone, though asexuals are very rare). That men pressuring women to 'lower their standards' and to give the guy they don't want 'a chance' is acting like women have some sort of obligation to supply men with sex. I also notice women on reddit in general telling struggling dudes …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:13 AM
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But there’s also an activism aspect to it in their advertising I disagree. It's pure marketing. They reach more people who will open their wallets to them if they target fat women (a majority of women in the US) or fat men (a majority of men in the US) and their supportive thin siblings/friends/parents, than if they just target to thin people or fatphobic people. There are fat dude mannequins in some of the most popular departments stores in the US. Additionally, it's one out of every 30 models …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:58 AM
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I cannot make the decision for anyone but myself, however, I think people should examine the reasons why they want someone who is less experienced and has fewer good experiences or excellent lovers to compare someone to. History is important in the sense that you want to know how someone treated their previous partners (were they loyal, did the end things/try to end things amicably/civilly, were they kind) and also how they were treated (were they abused by their previous partner, do they want m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:49 PM
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So, go gay? Just be less picky, in the words of a lot of men here. It has to be an ACTUAL REASONABLE AVAILABLE option. So that's my point. The way some straight men think of gay men as not a viable option (they're not attracted) is the way some straight women think of some straight men as not a viable option (they're not attracted). Gay men are not available to most straight men. Patently untrue. Many, many, gay men are happy to satisfy a straight man. They just are aware that it's not going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:41 PM
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Specifically for dating? The last few years (pandemic not withstanding) mostly online. Before that a combination of online, at school/classes, through sports/team events/team competitions, at barcades, at bars, at festivals and cons/sci-fi conventions, parties, and through friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:36 PM
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Yeah isn't it sad that she got the idea somewhere that as some sort of social obligation she should give special specific attention romantic to guys she wasn't interested in? Now don't get me wrong she's a jerk, but she was also doing what a lot of men in this subreddit promote, talking to someone she wasn't into in a romantic way. Now women should learn so If you're only being a good person to 'catch up to men' or 'catch up to women' you're not a good person. If you're only being a good person …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 11:02 PM
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Pete Davidson manages his issues... gets help for them, is not dishonest about them, has changed his lifestyle to be healthier while dealing with them... that takes courage, it takes self-awareness, it takes both confidence and humility, that's likely what people are attracted to. Not the fact that he has these issues but that he takes pains to manage them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:58 PM
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Perhaps you live in a very unusual insular community but the expectations on styled and quality of hair, clothing, jewelry, and style and grooming in general (nails, shaving, et cetera) is much higher and much more prominent with a lot more external pressure for women than for men. Men can ace a job interview (all other qualities being equal) in a button down shirt and pants and a comb run through his hair, can have a beard in most jobs. Women are expected to have styled hair (either curled or i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:54 PM
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Do you think those stores have plus sized mannequins because corporate wants to boost self-esteem for people or do you think it's because most Americans are fat and if they want to make money on their products they should target a broader demographic? Again, Victoria's Secret didn't add plus size models because that company has some noble idea of uplifting women on a spiritual or confidence level... they did it because they want to sell lingerie, and most women are fat in the US, thus if they ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:36 PM
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If you think posters who demean brokies online don't get backlash you aren't looking at the comments. A woman does this and she gets death threats. Being called a 'golddigger' is like the mildest form of backlash she gets, it's usually not just politely-worded criticism or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:32 PM
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I think you are missing something big. Corporations and advertisers didn't join 'the movement' because they have some noble desire to see people accept themselves. They go where the money is. Most people (men and women) in the US are fat. Victoria's Secret doesn't occasionally (still the minority of their models) use plus sized models because they are trying to boost people's self-esteem... they do it because fat women shop. Most women with spending money in the US are fat. When they see a model…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:24 PM
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Work smarter not harder. The fact of the matter is though, no matter how smart people are, or how hard-working, most will not make six figures individually. But if that is someone's goal they should focus on passive income or less expensive and less time-consuming certifications that are still in high demand. Also find someone who is also on the grind but still likes to date/be sexual. Some parts of the year I am working from 9am until 1am. So I only date people who don't expect to see me every …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:05 PM
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No literally all they have to do is go on Grindr.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:01 PM
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For millions of years men and woman have used body language. For millions of years people have suffered in silence after having been raped. Your 'history' isn't a pleasant one. Yes there are some cases where all this can be done without words (like a hug, you close some of the distance between you and open your arms, if they close the distance and complete the embrace that's consent). There are others where you don't know. Sometimes people just want to kiss, sometimes they don't want to kiss. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 10:00 PM
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Yes a lot more women struggled silently with sexual assault back then compared to now (not saying that's what you did, I'm just saying that even as difficult as it is for someone to report sexual assault today or speak out, it was even more difficult and even less support then).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:58 PM
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Better to kill a mood than hurt someone, assault them, or rape them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:55 PM
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Not every person expresses mood the same way. Guys misread me all the time, fortunately almost all the ones I've associated with have never tried to rape me. I've had saying please and thank you to someone while making them coffee as a teen be interpreted as me 'giving them signals that I wanted them'. Everyone's different. You don't know automatically what they want, how they want it, and if they want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:55 PM
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What the fuck, no I don't. What you're talking about that you would be okay with for you is rape to me. You don't know which person you are dealing with so it's best to get clear consent. You don't risk raping someone because you're worried about 'ruining the mood'.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:54 PM
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Right but she might be okay with oral but not penetration. She might be okay with penetration but only with a condom and spermicidal gel inserts. She might be okay with vaginal intercourse but not anal. You need to know before you go sticking things inside her. It doesn't have to be clinical and both parties should communicate what they want. It's not "I want to put this appendage in your orfice", you have a world of sexy things to say that are not that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:52 PM
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I don’t understand why anyone would think it’s a mood killer to ask for consent? Because there are people in this very thread who would rather risk assaulting and hurting someone than risk 'ruining the mood'. Not understanding that rape and assault are horrific and 'ruining the mood' is just another way of consent being revoked which a person (regardless of gender) has every right to do. If someone tries to fuck me without my permission I am running away from attempted rape and likely calling th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:50 PM
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No Louis CK showed his dick and did other things to people who were employees. He completely went against one of his own previous jokes where he discussed consent. He knew the right thing to do and he did the fucked up thing. His stuff isn't as egregious as some but it's still shit behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:48 PM
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Well you ask similar questions related to kissing and other touching leading up to sexual acts. Replace one body part in the sentence with something less intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:47 PM
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The only body language in which you could take as consent from me would be if we were both signing in ASL or something an enthusiastic and specific yes. If someone puts their mouth on me without my okay, that's assault. And there are plenty of women like me. The fact is, you don't know what someone wants in this way and what they are okay with until you ask. Honestly, it still disturbs me how many people would rather risk raping someone than risk 'ruining the mood'.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:44 PM
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Someone puts their mouth on me without my consent they are violating me. I am not every women but there are plenty of women like me. And you don't know who is who until it's too late if you aren't keeping consent foremost in mind and practice. It continues to disturb me that people would rather risk raping someone than risk potentially 'ruining the mood'.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:36 PM
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Just a note, a man has the right to consent or revoke consent as well. 100%.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:33 PM
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I assume it is a pretty wide spread phenomenon that many women consider it ruining the mood if you verbally ask for consent You probably shouldn't fuck these women and additionally, you don't know if she consents ahead of time. Better to ask and be rejected than to not ask and commit rape. Why do you think that it is a preference for many women to communicate with body language rather than words? It actually isn't unless you are only polling women 50+. It's also about not being clinical or awkwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:32 PM
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It's not 'material' it's fact. Almost every human DOES need human connection to be happy and healthy. But that form of human connection can be family, friendships, mentors, et cetera in order to fulfill that. The reason she (and I rarely agree with Lilith but on this I do) keeps mentioning it is because she's countering the false narrative that continuously appears on here to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:46 PM
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Sure they matter but a) most people experience them throughout their lifetimes (98% in the US) and b) sex and romance are not necessary to health and happiness, however SOME form of human connection is but this can be friends, mentors, family, neighbors, colleagues, et cetera.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:45 PM
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Short guys do not need to pay for sex. Most of them are married by their early thirties (US) and (at least at the start of the relationship) are attracted to their partner and their partner to them. Most of them are in long term relationships well before that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:44 PM
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Lacking relationships, sex, families, love, intimacy, and all the other stuff that comes along with it is a genuine health risk. The majority of healthcare professionals recognize that this is a problem. You DO need social connection to be healthy (except for a small percentage of humans who can be happy healthy hermits alone). However, those social connections do not have to be sexual or romantic in nature in order for someone to be healthy and happy. From a physiological standpoint someone wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:41 PM
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Very few men have such options unless in a relationship. Most of them do but not (just as for women) with people they're attracted to. They could do it with a lot lizard, a sex worker, or someone on Grindr. Availability of sex doesn't mean you want to have sex with that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:38 PM
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Workhorse coffee: "Love is Believing All Women All The Time" How disingenuous. How is me saying don't intrinsically be skeptical of women just because they are women the same as me saying "love is believing all women all the time". It's additionally disingenuous because you are putting a variation of my username next to quotation marks for something I never said. I'm not a dude. And I reject "nice guys".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:35 PM
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Yeah go ahead. Just don’t be surprised when they reject you because chances are they will. Or just ask out everyone who is available and who you're attracted to. If you only ask out someone you think is in your "league" that's your choice, however, you're only shooting yourself in the foot. If there are 100 people at the club. And you are attracted to 60 of them but you only talk to/ask out over the course of a few weeks like 10 because you think they match your league you are leaving out the 2-…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:33 PM
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Yes but most elderly people don't have 'loving kids and grandkids'. Most of those who have grandkids those grandkids don't call them or visit them in the retirement home.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:26 PM
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It's also odd to think that women are all of us getting all the sex we want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:23 PM
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Men can have someone at their door to suck their dick in 10 minutes too. It doesn't mean the prospect is appealing for all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:23 PM
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Arguably (at least in the US based on the last two rounds of GSS data) a slightly higher percentage of men do this than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:21 PM
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They have just as much ability to be happy single as long as they have other social connections in their lives, same as women. (Friends, neighbors, family, mentors, mentees, colleagues, et cetera). Nobody needs a gf/bf to be happy and healthy... but just about every human does need SOME kind of social connection (friends/family) to be happy and healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:20 PM
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Evidence 1 You linked to a study about the very specific demographic of nurses in mid-to-late life. Not only is that a very particular demographic even among women, but considering the nature of the long-hours worked by nurses, it's likely that sharing the load of a household with a spouse would have a far stronger positive impact on them then on the average woman who doesn't work 12 hours shifts. "Marital transitions during earlier adulthood and subsequent health and well-being in mid- to late-…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:19 PM
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I mean being cautious about something where the long-term effects have disabled 4 million people (in the US alone who can no longer work even office jobs because of long covid) and where the treatments for long covid are still being developed is smart. COVID numbers are on the rise throughout the US (not sure about other countries). It's like any other risk, you take precautions and you go on with it. When I was last on the apps a few months back all the people I messaged I asked if they were wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:09 PM
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Myself included. I have the highest libido of anyone I've ever met (or heard of) and I still won't just hook up with a stranger. I'd have to get to know them over time and meet them in person to get an idea of them before I'd even consider kissing them much less something more intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:06 PM
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The people who are like this who are out and about living their lives you don't know are demi unless you became close friends with them. Sometimes not even then. There are plenty of people who are demi and they only go online twice a week to stream their favorite HBO show, not to visit posting websites, forums, or Discords.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:06 PM
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It's been shown (for both men and women) that a bad relationship or even a 'neutral relationship' is less healthy and happy than being single. But that a GREAT relationship is better for all involved than being single. So unless you both add significantly to each others' lives, it is better in most cases for people to stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:03 PM
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I agree with the first part, not the second. In a relationship, both people should build each other up and add to each others' lives not detract.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:02 PM
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Women know they are a swipe away from hooking up with a cute guy if they happen to get the 'itch' So are men if they go on Grindr. But 'hooking up' is something you still do while single. Single just means either unmarried or not in a formal/long-term relationship usually. Did you have another definition? Women know they could probably get a fwb arrangement with one of their guy friends if their 'dry spell' becomes unbearable Not at all, most of my guy friends are seriously dating and we don't h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:01 PM
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They married young (before 25). It's the number 1 indicator of divorce (US). I was right. They lasted two years.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:56 PM
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Most people who stream, even if they have a dedicated and mildly growing audience, will never make enough to even pay a power bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:54 PM
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Sometimes yes, but not necessarily. I'm okay if my guy only has ambitions to finish a song he plays for free at a festival. It's about having a lust for life, not a six figure income. Most men aren't bringing in a good income (neither are most women), yet most men still date, have sex, get into relationships, and many get married. Just at different times in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:53 PM
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I don't think anyone (regardless of gender) should improve themselves solely to attract a date/partner. When you work out, you should do it for the body you want and what you and your doctor have agreed to, not what you think a future boyfriend would want. When you set and meet goals for your career path, you should do it based on who you want to be and what you want to accomplish, not based on how you think it will appeal to a future husband/wife/spouse. When you work on being a better person (…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:52 PM
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Yeah I'm not okay with the debt, or the military thing either. Plenty of people aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:40 PM
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Yes and the US data shows this to be true as well. Marrying young (under 25) is the #1 indicator of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:40 PM
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Marrying in your 20s is not that bad In your early twenties (under 25 it is the #1 indicator for divorce). If you two really are a good match then you can put off the engagement until age 24 at least. Growing up with another is a good thing. You can grow as a person and marrying can help you grow. Marrying doesn't 'help you grow'. All it is is a title and a certificate, couples who merely date long-term or live together long-term are identical except for the legal contract and what they call eac…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:39 PM
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I love women, I just am skeptical of the things they say If you're skeptical of things women say purely because they are women then no, it doesn't sound like you 'love women' at all. No woman will want to date you if you are skeptical of what they say just because they are a woman. But women really just need to exercise/not be homely. Why? Women and men who are not conventionally attractive almost always still date someone and at the start of that relationship there is mutual attraction, same fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:27 PM
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Even if a great partner, it would not be beneficial to many of us to be in a house-spouse role. For example I am miserable when having to do domestic tasks, I can't imagine not working a job long-term except after my expected early retirement. Having to host parties, be the sole person responsible for the home's errands, cleaning, cooking, decorating are awful to me. None of these things interest me (though I respect them in others and sit in awe of a tasty home-cooked meal). On the other hand, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:22 PM
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While they get to do literally anything else. Not remotely. The expectations on women (even women who work) to be responsible for the state of the household and all the scheduling is immense. Even growing up in a progressive city I was expected to 'play hostess' from a young age. When I became an adult, people held me responsible for how my date's car looked inside and out or how he kept his home (I wasn't even living there). Being a parent is a 24/7 job with no guaranteed bathroom or meal break…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:14 PM
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The stigma is less now. But plenty of women were prescribed 'pep' pills and other uppers which were basically just meth in the 1950s.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:04 PM
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Even then lower middle class and lower income women still had to work (maids, nurses, teachers, laundrywomen). Sometimes backbreaking factory work as well. Only the somewhat well off women could afford to not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:02 PM
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Even severe. Some of the men in this chat preferred pictures of women who were actively heroin addicts but because their physique was thinner, they were desired. In most cases it's not about health and those who want thin women want them even if they are chainsmokers compared to an overweight woman who is an Olympic shotputter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:00 PM
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A higher percentage of men have an income over 0 than women but only slightly. There is a more significant chunk of men who are overweight though compared to women (US).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:58 PM
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Most women only voice concern if someone is saying they want to become a Passport Bro because they assume women in certain countries will 'comply', because it sounds like they want a server, not a partner, and a bit exploitative. Others just caution against targeting poverty-stricken women who will not be able to make a fair decision about if they genuinely like you or they just only want security for their family. Plenty of people find love overseas, and only some of those end in her leaving th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:56 PM
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You will die from lack of vitamin D and some sort of human connection. That being said the human connection doesn't have to be sexual or romantic in nature for you to live a fulfilling, healthy life. Dating can be cheap, depending on how walkable your city is or how far your date is willing to travel, it can be free.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:52 PM
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Yes. If I can't read you at all and you're not communicating and you don't seem to be emotionally interested or responsive, we're probably not going to vibe. Being emotionally vulnerable means you're not afraid to cry in front of me, not afraid to voice frustration, can feel and acknowledge those feelings, can talk to me about concerns you have. It does not mean being violent, throwing tantrums, screaming, shouting epithets at me or throwing glasses or cell phones, or consoles at the wall, and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:51 PM
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Well he’s not an above average/attractive guy so he should be shooting for his looksmatch or slightly below it. Nah, why limit yourself to a small percentage of those you find attractive. Instead, go for anyone you want (politely, respectfully). Let them decide if they want to reject you or not, you don't know what their 'type' is or if you are part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:46 PM
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There's nothing wrong with an anime shirt when you're out on the town as long as it isn't porn/hentai if you put a sharp blazer over it or wear it with some nice slacks or cool shoes. Too many though (of any gender) don't keep their clothes clean, darned, pressed, and with attention to how pieces pair together. A lot of upscale department stores will give you a free consultation with a personal stylist so you don't have to know how to do this intrinsically.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:46 PM
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There's a huge range between expressing you want someone and becoming a door mat or a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:43 PM
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The same things I expect in a short-term one. Whatever we've agreed to. A maintained interest in sex and whatever our particular brand of devotion looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:41 PM
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Only about half of a percent (maybe less) of those I've gone on dates with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:30 PM
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Dude, the divorce rates have been ~50% from the implementation of no fault divorce. You're thinking over overall, whereas I keep illustrating that I'm talking about comparing younger generations to older generations. There's also no quality LMAO I guess it depends on how you define quality. Less infidelity, happier marriages seem to be a pretty good demonstration of quality. They're not doing it impulsively and they're still failing lol. Again, you take 100 married couples who have been married …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:27 PM
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If you take a room filled with 100 married couples under 40 who have been married 5 years, and 100 married couples from older generations who have been married 5 years, the zoomers and millennials are half as likely to divorce, have less infidelity, and report higher happiness in their relationships. When you compare the same marriage lengths in different generations, millennials and zoomers (not many zoomers yet because most are too young to marry), again the younger generations who are already…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:38 PM
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What benefits are you talking about? 90% of divorces don't award anyone alimony, and the remaining sliver that do, some of the time that goes to the man. You usually only see this if someone's making six figures (pretty rare in the US). Child support is for the children, if you have a kid regardless of gender, yes you need to support them financially until they are 18 in most cases, and the mom shouldn't be solely stuck with paying for college either. Also child support isn't always awarded and …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:17 PM
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They are marrying just a slightly smaller percentage of people and generally a couple of years later in life (28 instead of 26 for women in the US) for example. But among married couples in younger generations they are half as likely to divorce compared to older generations. They are also less likely to cheat, and report higher levels of happiness in regards to the marriage compared to generations of people who are at the time of this writing in their 40s and older. A majority of people are stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:12 PM
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Those statistics are not very good. Sure they are. Just because you are uncomfortable with the reality of what they say doesn't mean they aren't valid. Most men are married by their 30s and (at least at the start of the marriage) having regular sex. More than 70% of even younger men (US) are currently sexually active (and I believe the GSS data that just dropped shows that has actually gone UP). So a vast majority are. Men having sex like once a decade Where are you getting this idea from? ?>And…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 08:35 PM
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Many people overall use these to make the interface more practical or palatable, they are also needed by many people with disabilities in order to use Reddit at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:44 AM
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Some of them, definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:41 AM
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A shy socially awkward girl will still have been on plenty of dates and relationships, while a socially awkward guy would have had none. Socially awkward guys never having dates is a temporary state. 98% of people have dates (and most of them marriage) before retirement age (most of them by their thirties though and 90% of them have had sex by 25, most of those by age 17). And a vast majority are currently sexually active (US). In the US, 60% of young men are single while 30% of young women are.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:11 AM
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If youre in rich circles you have to provide money. Most wealthy people date other wealthy people. And plenty of us don't know what someone makes when we start dating them. It's not really that appropriate to discuss finances until you're sharing bills, just agreeing to what budget you want for dates (keeping in mind budget doesn't necessarily have anything to do with income). People who are saving for an early retirement for example may be bringing in six figures or more, but they are being car…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:53 AM
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A lack of romance or ability to find love can lead directly to death This isn't true at all. While it IS true that most humans need social connections/human connection to be healthy, that can come in the form of family or friends or a mentor as well. Romance and sex aren't required to be happy and healthy, they're just wildly popular. If we want men to stop killing themselves, we need to somehow make it easier for relationships to happen. Suicide is not caused by 'lack of girlfriend' and neither…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:43 AM
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It's not more accurate any way you cut it. Cis as in cisgender. Cis is an old term and definitely 'a thing'.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:36 AM
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Well yeah you can get fired if you do something unprofessional. Throwing insults at people in the workplace can get you fired, even if you're a woman. If you're creating a 'hostile workplace' you can be fired. Women have just as much capacity to be fired or be nasty, but we have the experience more often of being encouraged to be nice, friendly, and hospitable from a young age compared to men. We're often trained, pressured from family, parents, media, and even school sometimes to keep the mood …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:17 PM
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Everyone is 'allowed to complain'. But if you put something out there, people might react to it. Even if it were a 'freedom of speech' scenario, that doesn't mean freedom from consequences, or freedom from differing opinions, or freedom from criticism. Nobody needs to (and pretty much nobody can) change who they are attracted to. It is disingenuous and unethical to pretend to be hot for someone just to get a date or get laid when really you're not interested in them. That being said, when you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:15 PM
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No but you won't necessarily see the attractive women who are introverted as often, because they don't necessarily come out into public (or even private) parties as often. In fact, being conventionally attractive can make you MORE introverted if your attractiveness gets you a huge amount of attention or a lot of unwelcome aggressive friendliness. Even the most social butterfly can become more of an introvert if it's all too much attention. It depends though. People on social media who are introv…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:09 PM
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There is also that recent study which predicts that by 2030, 45% of women will be single and much of it voluntary Yes and this includes women who love to date men, just don't want to marry them or be in a long term formal relationship don't think most men signed up for that Most people eventually do want to pair up. But even if 99% of women decide tomorrow they wanted to be single forever that would be their choice, not a man's. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be single forever (or for a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:29 PM
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Same. I also like a slim guy with cut pecs and abs but a big Buddha belly and soft fat arms make me melt too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:19 PM
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Good suggestion!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:06 PM
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Also it's not decent to shame but it's perfectly reasonable to call someone out who claims to not have sexual experience if they're trying to make statements as though they had any experience with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:05 PM
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It's rare for people to 'slut shame' a man unless calling him out on hypocrisy but I'm sure it happens sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:04 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:02 PM
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You kinda started it by saying “hits you in the feels” You've made a mistake. Re-read the thread, a completely different poster put 'hits you in the feels'.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:01 PM
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Currently dating 5'4" king. I'm 5'8". I live in a part of the country that tends to have slightly-shorter-than-average men as well so I see men shorter than me pretty regularly, but I'm also 4" taller than the average woman in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:58 PM
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No you don't. It doesn't even make sense grammatically. If you're trying to exclude trans women from your questions you should specify 'cis women' not 'female women' and usually this would only be relevant if your question was related to ovaries or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:55 PM
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Yeah, forgive doesn't mean you stay with the cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:54 PM
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Is there a reason you post 'female women' instead of just saying 'women'?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:54 PM
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That's not true. Most men and women ultimately want to get married. A growing minority (but still a minority) don't have interest in marriage or have decided to never marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:02 AM
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Logic and Linguistic courses need to be mandatory parts of every high school curriculum in America. Agreed! My first philosophy course consisted of logic classes. Some of the curriculum was too advanced for high school but I remember thinking that modified versions of it could be introduced as young as third grade. Also media literacy. So many people think TikTok, YouTube, and Instagram are representing reality in their town, state, country, et cetera. I legitimately can't believe a generation o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:08 PM
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Modesty is relative. What counts as 'frigid nun gear' in Miami is considered scandalous shoulder porn in the Mormon parts of town. And modesty (sadly) never prevents being catcalled, harassed, molested. If it did women in Saudi Arabia would never experience rape and every woman all over the world would carry an emergency nun habit in her purse instead of the more common pepper spray.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:04 PM
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Where are you that birth control is used as a one size fits all? Every check up I've been to looking into birth control there is a ton of information and often questions/discussions from the nurse regarding at minimum six different ways to either prevent pregnancy or STIs or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:03 PM
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When you find the right birth control (or other form of contraception) it saves you from the very serious risks that come with pregnancy. The healthiest pregnancy has more of a negative impact on health and risk to life than than any type of prescribed birth control in existence. But of course, like any medication, discuss with a medical professional. What works for one person won't work for another. Friends of mine have to sometimes try 12 different medications before finding the right one. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:01 PM
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More than 70% of women in the US watch porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:58 PM
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Because diapers aren't fun. Particularly not in a bounce house. Think of the smearing, yech.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:57 PM
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Yeah there are no age maximums on bounce houses. Most are built to accommodate adults too, just a smaller number of them than if there were kids in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:56 PM
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Dignity is having fun without being a pathetic whimpering coward about if some random doesn't think it's an adult activity. Imagine denying yourself pleasure that harms nobody because of what someone else might think of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:56 PM
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This isn't true. Plenty of people just notice that you smell good and comment on it. Doesn't mean we want to have sex with you. This is why so many women have to be careful about even the most innocent positive feedback/compliments. People think it means we want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:54 PM
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Based. I like her already.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:52 PM
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Really? That's pretty rare. Most shark's just take a chunk and leave the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:51 PM
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For me it's always been clear cut but I know that my experience isn't everyone's. More specificity from OP would be appreciated I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:48 PM
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Still a minority but definitely more than ever in human history. One of the top dating apps is based on only women being able to approach/initiate. The gender gap in this continues to trend in the direction of a higher percentage of women initiating/asking people out but there's still quite a climb before there is any kind of parity of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:46 PM
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Getting one ugly girl every 3 years doesn’t mean you’re desirable Getting anyone means you are desireable to someone. People you find unattractive are still someones. But you should not date or 'get' someone whom you don't find attractive. If you don't find someone attractive, don't date them, don't fuck them. It's simple. Dating someone you don't want just to get a date is sleazy, pathetic, and wastes everyone's time. Most hookups and relationships start with mutual desire, not disgust. Most pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:22 PM
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It depends who they are and who they find attractive in turn. The things I do for self-improvement turn off some men and turn other men way the fuck on. To one it makes my 'smv' go down, to another it 'rises'. So everyone should improve the thing that impacts their life the most (and not their love life, just their life). Someone who is struggling to eat and pay rent should focus primarily on that. Once their housing and food is secure they can focus on more healthy, varied food and working out …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:15 PM
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That’s the problem, you don’t have facts. Again, this is data that is far better than your biases, speculations, or the consensus of niche manosphere and pill subreddits. These are from actual couples and the methods to weed out dishonesty have been finessed for literally over a century. It's far more accurate than you will find in someone's personal anecdotes or a forum or a subreddit. You not willing to acknowledge the best and most accurate sources of data and instead countering it with an ut…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:10 PM
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Are you truly attracted to half of the men you meet? Physically? Yes. I don't think it is that subjective It is though, even on this niche subreddit which has a lot of men who subscribe to almost the exact same ideology they can't agree even within 7 points on an image of a single woman. I have yet to meet a woman who think I am a 8. She likely didn't tell you. Not every woman hits on everyone she finds attractive and neither does every man hit on someone either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:04 PM
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Perhaps what you mean is 'assertive'? Forward means bold in often a slightly inappropriate way. Confidence and assertiveness require neither being forward nor aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:03 PM
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That doesn't pan out. Some of the people rating her didn't even know she was a celebrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:01 PM
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Facts don't care about your feelings. In my post history I have referenced studies held to the highest standards and repeated decade over decade. You just calling them 'untrustworthy' shows that you care about your feelings more than facts. They're not infallible but they indicate the reality. And the reality is different than your paranoid personal feelings and biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:59 PM
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No that's typical 16-21 year old behavior in relationships. It happens all the time. Teens and early twenty somethings? Not typical but yes it exists. That subreddit does have problems but they are pretty objective about it. They follow a specific rating guide This subreddit regularly can't agree to any of the guides and regularly disagrees in a range of 7 or 8 points on a particular image of various Hollywood starlets.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:57 PM
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Well yes, attraction is a base-level necessity for pretty much any healthy relationship or dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:48 PM
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They eventually snap out of it and call the guy a loser after she gets her heart broken This is more tv drama than reality.... A subreddit is not going to view you accurately either, especially because the demographic of dates who are compatible with you is not going to overlap really at all with a subreddit 'rate me' sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:42 PM
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Charismatic doesn't = aggressive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:37 PM
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Most people are broke or close to broke. Most people you don't know how broke they are when you first start dating them. Some you won't know how broke they are until you've already both decided to move in/share bills. Most people, even though they are close to broke, most people, even though in the US most are one paycheck away from homelessness... still get laid, have relationships, and date and those mostly begin with mutual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:37 PM
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It also might be that what you define as a 'loser' is different than what they define as one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:35 PM
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What are you talking about? More than 90% of men in the US are sexually active by age 25 and most of those before age 18 with almost an even breakdown among gender lines in this. Most men are married before their 40s even among younger generations who are marrying less and living together more. Most people have had at least one long-term relationship before their mid thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:31 PM
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It's not a 'double standard'. Nobody can help whom they find attractive. You might grade yourself a 7. Some women might see you and grade you a 9. Still others might grade you and see you a 5. And these women might all see themselves as 4s and 5s when you see them all as 3s or 6s, who knows. Nobody should 'stick to their league' or they are limiting themselves for no reason and prerejecting themselves from people they are attracted to. Swipe right on everyone you're attracted to. Let them reject…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:29 PM
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Yes additionally, erotic stories (not always but often) tend to describe more accurately how anatomy works and how sex can be more pleasurable compared to porn which often consists of at least one scene of 'jackhammering' which is rarely very pleasurable or a useful sex 'skill'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:22 PM
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Being on dating apps is like eating candy. It’s all sugar and no nutritional substance. Disagree, I learn more about someone's inner life and substance through their profile details when I swipe right than I ever would just from even twenty minutes of talking to someone at a bar. Online dating (mostly apps) is the number one source of relationships in the US. but your photos might be shitty or low effort, Definitely this can have an impact, true. I don't expect someone to be a professional, I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:19 PM
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They will but it takes minimum of about six months usually to make a full circuit (unless you're in a tiny town and haven't expanded your filters to the closest at least mid-sized city).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:18 PM
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In your eyes you are a six. In some women's you are an 8. In others a 4. It's very subjective. You can't even get consensus here in this slice of the internet. Maybe it's because Tinder has gotten under my skin, but Women on that app seem way to picky compared to real life. You can't help who you are attracted to. Also consider that many women might be about to swipe right because they like your photos and your interests, but then they notice a dealbreaker and swipe left instead. For example, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:17 PM
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Yep, the entire thing is also an allegory for the trans experience, per the writer/directors.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:13 PM
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'Blue pill' in The Matrix (which by the way is an allegory for the trans journey) refers to people who 'don't want to know reality' and want to 'stay in the dream'. It's often used as an insult here to try to claim the person isn't 'living in reality' even when their post history is riddled with studies and sources from legitimate organizations and researchers showing otherwise in addition to personal experience they have actually dating and having relationships. I myself don't subscribe to any …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:12 PM
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That would be a weird privacy violation even for a dating app. Also I personally wouldn't care if someone had 2 or 1000, I'd swipe right anyway if I liked their profile/was attracted... but someone who is in the low numbers it could kneecap their potential for matches among the people who are concerned that they don't garner a lot of interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:52 PM
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Nothing is fool proof, but sometimes I have dated people I already knew and saw often enough that it would have been incredibly unlikely they had some hidden girlfriend. On the apps, no fool proof way to tell cheaters, but everyone I've dated on there has wanted to spend a lot more time than would make sense if they also lived in the same state as a spouse or gf. Abusers can hide their true colors (for instance some don't show their true colors until marriage) maybe I've avoided this because I m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:46 PM
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Because those aren't the only questions they ask. Do you not understand how rigorous studies work? There are ways of weeding people out who are shy about speaking truthfully about their sex lives. Again actual hard data from repeated studies is worth so much more than personal anecdotes, biases, and observations of a few random people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:34 PM
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A scam is a scam. You're right it's not equivalent because a lot more fools lose their money to crypto scams than astrology accessories.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:27 PM
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In what way is trying to make money with crypto equivalent t I specified 'crypto scams'. You're right they aren't equivalent. Most people won't lose as significant an amount of money on zodiac jewelry and mineral collections.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:57 AM
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That's fine, I'll just turn my escape methods to the inseminator. Not to mention the person they try to house me with if they keep me there against my will.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:55 AM
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Percentage of vacationing Americans who travel for vacation beyond 500 miles for one. Also more recently: https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/2019/08/14/americans-say-they-cant-afford-vacation/4467072007/ Edited to add: Someone linked a quote about 85% planning a vacation this summer. Again most of that is within 500 miles and most of that is not for a vacation, it includes business travel as well as caring for sick family members, handling family or personal business et cetera.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:54 AM
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The gift of fear is a real thing. We're not talking about yards or guns or people of various races. This subreddit is mostly about dating/romance from a hetero perspective. Nobody should force themselves to date someone they feel creeped out by under any circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:36 AM
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I mean if they have some nazi shit on their t-shirt I'm going to think that's creepy and be fully justified in feeling that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:34 AM
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Dating people you don't find attractive just to get laid/get a gf is fucked up and sleazy. How many women do you ask out on average each week? Start asking out at least 10 women who you are actually attracted to every week, whether in person, or on the apps. I promise you'll get someone saying yes where you're both attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:33 AM
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Well I've never wanted babies... and I'm not gross in public, I don't 'show the world'. I show him, when we're alone. We of course have our little communications out in public but nothing that would be recognized. It's not cool to expose unwilling third parties to your mutual sexual appetites with the person you're with/dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:27 AM
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It's literally the 1%. 98% of people have relationships, usually multiple in their lives. Most of those begin with mutual attraction. Even though only 1% of people meet the 666 specs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:25 AM
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Most nerds find other nerds. And are happy nerds together.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:24 AM
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I'm not attracted (in most cases) to what this subreddit indicates is a Chad. His wallet doesn't make him a better lover or a more interesting dinner companion or more fun to relax with. Most of the men I agree to date once and more than once don't meet any of the 666 criteria. I'm attracted to who I am attracted to. I have dated men with one or two of those sixes and rarely three and I'm not more attracted to them than I am to the men who meet none of them (like the guy I'm seeing now).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:12 AM
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I won't stay with someone who isn't lusting after me, but I also acknowledge that there are couples who value romance or love or companionship a lot more than sex and feeling desired. In many relationships if there is no desire for physical intimacy it's not going to be healthy, but it depends. There are romantics out there who are either asexual or low libido or who can be healthy without this desire, it's not the norm but it exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:01 AM
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I have no power or leverage in a conversation with a woman. I am completely at their mercy in every interaction. You're probably not going to have a lot of luck if you think every woman you interact with is superior to you in all these ways and if you feel inept in their presence in every conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:59 AM
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The problem is so guys give their attention to women who haven't earned it In your eyes they haven't 'earned' it. In his eyes he merely wants to give her his attention, it's not a loss for him, hell he might not even think attention has to be earned as long as he feels good giving it (unless it's not welcomed). And the same for any gender. If she's agreeing to go on a fifth/sixth date... that clearly indicates she does have interest. Some people move slowly. People should absolutely only give ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:49 AM
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Or boneless buffalo wings/cauliflower wings. Mmm. Or as a crumble on a steak.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:25 AM
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Yeah. Except a lot more women like sex than like blue cheese.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:25 AM
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They need to do research on the vulva and clitoris, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:24 AM
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Plenty of us fucking love sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:24 AM
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Most people don't want to wear that junk on their head for $3,500 even if it does have advanced VR capabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:23 AM
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The data shows otherwise. Most people are mutually physically attracted when they first get together, 98% of people have sex/romance/relationships before retirement age, most before their 40s (US). Most people are not conventionally attractive. More than half are average or below average. Your trash is my treasure. The guys my sisters would never in a million years date are what gets me going.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:22 AM
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Most couples are attracted to each other physically at least initially, yes. Also who you find unattractive someone else might find hot. For example one of my favorite 'types' on a guy is shorter, furry, fat, bearded and bald. I also like tall ripped guys with long hair but not more than the furry types. When you look at that guy you might not think he's attractive, but he gets my blood boiling in the best way. Some guys are really hot for plain girls with big noses. Some are chubby chasers or j…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:21 AM
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Happy monking!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:18 AM
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Actually they are the number one source for relationships and quiet a few marriages. The marriages (among the younger generations) are actually lasting longer already compared to the same marriage time frames of older generations. They are certainly great for hookups too though (except eHarmony).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:14 AM
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Nordic countries often leave the baby lying down, even in a pram out in the snow (well cozied by thick blankets of course). It's actually confirmed healthy. Most workplaces won't allow/or it's too dangerous to have babies swaddled up while there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:12 AM
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Lmao, what is a 'healthy tough food'? The 'healthy' I get but what makes a food 'tough'?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:11 AM
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It just means unidentified, not necessarily alien.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:10 AM
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TikTok is made for views, content, provocation and entertainment. Please stop ascribing TikTok to the behavior of entire genders or generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:09 AM
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There are plenty of sloppy women and neat freak guys out there. I also see a lot of the 'mental load' referring to things like if the guy is hosting a football party he doesn't self-start doing half the cleaning of the home and half the food prep. Or if they're having a guest from out of town doesn't on his own do his share of the laundry so the guest will have fresh sheets and towels, clearing clutter off desk top so they have a place to work and/or unpack et cetera. Ideally (and in practice yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:07 AM
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Very true. Although even in these environments it's beginning to loosen as far as dress code.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:03 AM
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It depends entirely on the office and location. My last office it absolutely was allowed and the culture of the office was that people felt safe doing so. You work in a coffee shop in a major city, you're not going to get much pushback, most the dresscodes are more loose. Corporate atmospheres have been easing up on self-expression for the last two decades, it's not uncommon to see a man in cat ears at a gaming company or a man in nail polish approving models for a scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:03 AM
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So feisty! Fighting back against a rapist enslaver is not what I'd call 'feisty'. It's just survival. If I knew where they were being held, I'd probably get a group together, yeah. I've done something like that on a smaller scale before though for someone who was being beaten.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:59 AM
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Passport bros are going to places like the Philippines, Thailand, or destinations where the GDP per capita are much lower and the dollar exchange rates are much highe I'm speaking from the perspective of the US where most men cannot afford and do not have the flexibility to even go to a nearby state for a couple of weeks much less another country long enough to find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:56 AM
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YouTube is an entertainment platform. Most men in the US can't even afford to travel to the next STATE for a couple of weeks much less an entirely different country for several months.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:56 AM
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I don't even think that most women would agree just with the statement 'casual sex is empowering'. It's more that 'having the sex you want with someone who also wants it' is more empowering than 'father/random man/pressuring you or forcing you to have sex you don't want'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:53 AM
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Women understand from the time they hit puberty, just how powerful their sexuality is. It often seemed like a liability not a 'power'. They gain this power without any effort and spend the rest of their lives trying to get it back when they get older. Some women actually get a lot less sexual deliberately as they age, I don't think this claim affects a significant portion of the population. These are no longer concerns for lots of people but the hardwiring, the drives and the influence of female…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:47 AM
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It's really not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:48 AM
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If grammatical clarity scares you that much I don't think you'll have a good time in Doha either....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:48 AM
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I don't think they realize how many of these enslaved raped women would be in the kitchen merrily 'slaving' away making the rapist slaver a cup of poison tea.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:47 AM
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Sure, I volunteer as tribute. Whomever I end up with, say goodbye to your dick because I'm biting it off the moment I am 'enslaved' and they try to get me to perform my 'wifely duties'. I'll take one for the team to Darwin Award the slaver rapist keeping me hostage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:45 AM
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Men call women losers in this subreddit every few weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:44 AM
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It happens it's just very rare. I'm working off US data.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:43 AM
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Do you think personal speculation is better than repeated data that has had similar outcomes for decades even as it has become more acceptable to admit to this? These studies have ways to limit dishonesty. And they are much better data than someone's personal speculations, anecdotes and biases to get an idea of what the reality is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:42 AM
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No need to get into hysterics and name-calling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:41 AM
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This data has been replicated dozens of times over dozens of decades, not only do they have ways of removing questionable data/rooting out 'liars' but even though throughout the decades it's become more socially acceptable for women to admit to having a sex life, the percentages and ratios stay roughly the same. Whether in the 1940s, 1960s, 1990s, or today, the average man has almost twice the number of sexual partners as the average woman in a lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:41 AM
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In the US the percentage of men and women who are virgins in their thirties are almost equal (and a higher percentage of women than men once you get past age 35, but again, only by 1-2%). Seeings this as 'depressing' isn't considering that some people are virgins by choice, in fact, if you are a virgin in your thirties a higher percentage of your demographic are virgins by choice compared to in ones twenties. By retirement age in the US 98% of people are no longer virgins, and most of that 98% h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:38 AM
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Even if both people in the household prefer that, most couples are not able to afford one person not working full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:23 AM
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I mean I personally wouldn't date anyone from work but I do know couples where it worked out for them; I'm not about to make 'rules' for anyone in that way but myself but I do warn people that they need to consider that dating someone in the office might make them a) ineligible for promotion b) be let go c) not be able to transfer to a preferred department if the person they are seeing has a position there -depends on the company HR department d) they might face gossip any time they DO get a pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:15 AM
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I believe love exists. I don't know if I believe that there is some "higher level" 'true love', however. I believe there is more than one person out there for everyone and see it demonstrated both personally and if you look at marriage, sex, and relationship data in various countries. Do you think relationships are transactional? If some are, are most? I think a personal relationship viewed or treated as transaction is doomed to fail and/or be unhealthy. Do you prefer sex in a committed relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:08 AM
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Ones they don't realize the mother-in-law who will run the house or apartment they will live in with their new bride does not necessarily possess in regards to their daughter..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:01 AM
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We've had the underpinnings of ChatGPT style automated responses for over a decade now and the percentage in younger generations who marry is dropping. However, of those millennials and zoomers who do marry they are half as likely to divorce even when compared to the same marriage time frames of older generations. They are less likely to be unfaithful, and more likely to report happiness in regards to the state of their marriage (even though it's much more acceptable to critique such things now …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 07:00 AM
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I think another thing some people fail to consider is the virgin or non-promiscuous woman doesn't usually want to be targeted or desired for her lack of promiscuity or held up on a pedestal. She likely won't be interested in a man who is going 'virgin-hunting'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:52 AM
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Yes women can be creepy. What's perceived as creepy can be somewhat subjective but acting inappropriately, rudely, invasively, and presumptuously can all be creepy. Sometimes you can be creepy with the best of intentions if you refuse to read the room, or are incapable of understanding basic social etiquette.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:50 AM
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While I'd disagree that 'courting culture' is something superior or that we want to make common again, you are right that the current state of things does have us atomized. We're separated from our work, our neighbors, our community. States have gutted arts budgets which used to fund more free social gatherings and evening enrichment in cities and towns. Though the idyllic one full-time job supporting a stay-at-home spouse and/or family and a debt-free college education and home ownership was ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:48 AM
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That's a very small percentage of men. Of the men who can afford it (tiny percentage) many do not have the flexibility to do so (responsibilities/family/businesses that cause them to have to stay in the states). Of the men who both can afford it and have the flexibility in their work and their responsibilities to do it, only a sliver have the inclination. They are welcome to it but let's stop pretending this is something a significant amount of men are able to do even if they are willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:39 AM
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So as a woman, if I have a glow up I should be rude to men because of how some men treated me in high school based on their gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:37 AM
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Right? I guess since I look better than I did in high school in many ways I should just be nasty to the type of men who were rude to me in high school? You know, children? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:36 AM
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Or, now that you're better looking you make more eye contact, have a more easy smile, have a more calm and confident disposition, are more comfortable socially and in your own skin, have better posture, et cetera. Sometimes it's not the looks (or not just the looks) but everything else that changed for someone once they met a goal they wanted for their body or took more pride in their appearance or grooming or hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:35 AM
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As I was in a new place, I had to meet new people and make friends, so my social skills and confidence got a lot better. When I go to my hometown from time to time, I noticed a lot of attention from old female classmates that despised me before. Yes and while some of that attention might have been because of your 'glow-up' it could have also been because, as you noted, your social skills and confidence improved. That being said you're under no obligation to give them attention if it makes you un…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:33 AM
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Not treating billions of people with basic decency because of their gender doesn't make sense at all. I don't think women realize how disrespectful they can be to guys they don't find attractive or aren't interested in. Can you tell me some examples of common behavior you come across from women to men that you find 'disrespectful'? I think just about all male celebrities have explain how much more attention and better treatment they got from women after they became successful. Most celebrities o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:32 AM
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There is a lot of range in there. Porn isn't inherently bad, but it's also not realistic about what sex is like and what GOOD sex is like. A higher percentage of couples incorporate porn in the bedroom than likely every in human history. In the US more than 90% of men watch porn and more than 70% of women. Like anything else, it depends what you watch and how you absorb what you watch. I think porn is responsible for too many guys thinking 'jackhammering' is a skilled move, heh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:28 AM
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I am 4" taller than the average woman in the US. Probably a little more than half the people I have dated have been shorter than me. Currently I am seeing a guy who is 5'4". Plenty of us out there like short guys. Not all short guys like us though. I have been rejected before (but only a couple of times) by guys who noted that I was exactly their physical and personality type but that they felt uncomfortable with me being so much taller. Most shorter guys I've dated were happy about it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:26 AM
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Required? No. Hopefully the couple is on safe enough terms to discuss it though but ultimately it's up to the person who is pregnant. It is their body. Nobody gets to tell them it has to play host to a fetus or that it has to have a procedure they don't want. Just as you need special permission to use organs from a dead person, and informed consent to take blood or bone marrow from someone donating it to save a five year old child, you need permission from the person whose body is hosting before…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:19 AM
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Men do dress up goth. Ever been to a goth club? Metal show? Far end of a park at sunset? Men also do collect crystals some of them. The male version of being into astrology is things like crypto scams/NFTs. Plenty of men also act like babies and are in to 'childish' crafts. Which I personality don't see anything wrong with as long as they and the women who do those crafts aren't hurting anyone. How have you made it this far in life without seeing a guy in animal ears? Men do 'get away with it to…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:15 AM
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No, but it is worse in many ways compared to quite a few other OECD nations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 06:02 AM
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Please reread where I said Their concerns might be more that they would get robbed ('might be more ' doesn't mean 'can't be raped' obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:47 AM
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Maybe you just haven't been aware of a lot of cinema and television? I haven't gone to the movies in years and still was able to easily name fat actors who have been regularly in cinema, often in starring roles in recent years. Here are some examples of those successful actors with major roles (often starring roles, quite a few of which included them being love interest to a thin lady lead) who struggle with weight or are regularly overweight/fat: Jack Black Brendan Frasier Winston Duke Zach Gal…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:29 AM
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Sex work has very, very rarely made available to women or marketed toward women or the female gaze. When it does (you see this when porn companies start marketing to women, making women focused/women's-gaze scenes their numbers of women customers shoot up), the women will come, pun intended. Women absolutely will pay for sex work. See every male strip club who gets sold out with bachelorette parties and 21st birthdays every weekend. The difference between these places and others is that they mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:05 AM
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It's not my imagination but you're also thinking Victoria's Secret is on some virtue-mission when really they're just doing marketing as fat women have money to spend on bras.... Additionally, the body positivity movement extends more and more to men each day (and has been there more subtlely in representation of fat dudes as love interests in media for many decades before women were).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 12:02 AM
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Precisely. Most of the men I have dated DO seem to have a preference for women with tinier waists who are smaller than average. Based on their selection of me and on their history of previous partners. But they are welcoming and supportive to people in the vicinity who are overweight, they don't aggressively try to claim that their preferences are or should be everyone's, they don't insult or demean fat people, they don't get irritated when their friends are into big girls. They're just normal p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:59 PM
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No, it doesn't follow. That's not a logical conclusion. It's like people who cheat on their spouse and then assume their spouse is cheating even if their spouse is entirely faithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:47 PM
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Video calls are often a greater risk for the women than the men. Most 'first date safety' rules are good for guys too. Their concerns might be more that they would get robbed/jumped and less that they would be raped but common sense and street smarts/awareness can apply to any gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:23 PM
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If she likes you, being awkward and human won't be a turn off. My most recent first date was awkward in various moments (which is NORMAL for many first dates even if you're both somewhat confident people). But because we both liked each other it made for charming moments and laughter and us going out again. And again, and again. Someone being inappropriate, or not backing off when they are not being welcomed or have been rejected... well that behavior is often unwelcome. It doesn't take some 'si…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:22 PM
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I think the concern OP is pointing out is that some of these are actors, some are doing this to be provocative to get more view on YT, and that YT itself is an entertainment platform made for views. The people who created that video removed footage of the reasonable takes or when the women rolled them, because that doesn't make for as high views as the 'batshit craziness'. Thinking what you see on TikTok, YouTube, IG isn't intentionally cultivated and edited for amusement, views, and ad sales is…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:16 PM
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See how disingenuous you are How? Keep counting until 20 like a modern 26 years old and ask the same question. What? Pretending that n-count of four before marriage is a high n-count is disingenuous. When did I say that? That's just what some people in this subreddit say (actually more of them say 3 total). Men do care. Not very many, almost nobody outside niche spaces like these. That's why they never advertise their n-count Because it's weird to just tell people your 'count' like that's a norm…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:56 AM
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Most men don't care about it though. Most people don't get married to the first person they have sex with, or the second. Or the third. Only in sliver-tiny spaces like this one do you see people making a fuss about how much they care about it. The ones who do care about it out in the world, plenty of virgins and people with "low n-counts" avoid them because almost nobody wants to be sought out for their sexual history or lack thereof or hunted down for being a virgin. Those who do find it matter…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:08 AM
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Women with more than 10, can’t bond. Pair-bonding is a behavior observed in mostly parrots, not humans. Plenty of porn stars with more than ten go on to have close bonds with their spouses that last for decades. Multiple partners does not cause 'moodiness' and 'anxiety'. Initiating a breakup isn't inherently a bad thing. If both people aren't healthy and relatively happy it should break up regardless. Women with 6 or less, nicer. Calmer. Easier to get along with. Easy to please. Just… better. Lm…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:05 AM
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Yeah not even on this subreddit. Most of the men on this subreddit think 'low single digits' is ideal, 3 or fewer being the most common that I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:01 AM
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But, guess what.... WE ARE MALES!! WE THINK LIKE MALES!! Even on this tiny very specific demographic of men who are in this pill space, there is a huge diversity of thought and lack of agreement... it's even broader and more diverse outside this subreddit. Most men fall into the category of not having massive amounts of sex and learning all the tricks Most men average almost twice the number of sexual partners in a life time as women and hit that average before retirement age (US). Most men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:58 AM
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I've never really fully enjoyed a cold approach in a sense that I wanted it to happen again or anything but there are a few instances I have mentioned previously either here or a related subreddit. Striking up a conversation about a band in between sets and then inviting me to the tour's concert in a neighboring town the next week at the end of the show as they tore down the stage Standing in line and then sitting together at a sci-fi/goth/theatrical convention for a panel of a television show w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:42 AM
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Yeah I've been catcalled throughout my life starting at about 8 or 9 and it's rarely been when there have been other people around or where other people could hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:33 AM
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Years ago I wanted to see what women's experience was on dating apps, so I created a fake profile on Tinder of a woman who was approximately as physically attractive as me. Do you not see the irony in you being skeptical people's honesty online when you yourself admit to having falsified a profile on the internet? Do you think maybe it's projection?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:31 AM
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Fair enough. Was OP narrowing this to just Gen Z though again? Most of Gen Z isn't even old enough to drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:26 AM
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Queer that context isn't just sexual orientation, it's also things like libido level and gender expression. Most relationships are still hetero. and 3% is about the percentage (varies depending on city somewhat as some places you can't be openly gay) of gay/lesbian relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:14 PM
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I can't see any scenario where being a simp is a good thing for anyone. For the simp, they are not treating women as human but rather as either prizes or inhuman angelic creatures. For the woman, they don't get a partner who expresses a mind of their own and treats them as an equal, they get someone who treats them as a glass figurine. The simp doesn't communicate their needs and just suffers in silence, their character weakens, they begin to resent women because they see things as transactional…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:11 PM
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She has every right to ask out someone she wants in a respectful manner. If she can't accept rejection she shouldn't be dating in the first place. But just because she has a 'butter face' doesn't mean she has to change who she's attracted to... she just needs to accept, as all people who date need to accept that the people she's interested in also have the right to say no. She can still desire them though and has every right to. They have every right to say no/not be interested in her too of cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:20 PM
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Right? Never once did any of my career moves or education moves have anything to do with how I thought it might impact my dating life. Nor would I have sacrificed either or muffled either even a bit to 'up my chances' with certain men. The kind of men I'm interested would care and do care, at least somewhat. It's not that they won't date women without my cv, but they still respect the time I put into it and appreciate what it gives me and how it's impacted the person I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:18 PM
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Getting a boyfriend isn't generally a good reason to limit one's education or career path.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:13 PM
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I don't think they do but gay relationships would probably only affect this about 3%.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:07 PM
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Yeah I read the book LGBT statistics (which disappointingly mostly focused on the US), and there were a lot of statistics that show that gay men have more sex, single or in a relationship, than anyone else. Yes and that gay women have a higher quality sex life with more satisfying orgasms. Also plenty of lesbians have casual sex with women. But I agree that the 'move in together in only six months with a couple of dogs and a Subaru' stereotype has a bit of truth in it too hehe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:05 PM
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You'd be amazed and how many contextualize and analyse some data sometimes when it supports their claim and then don't when it disagrees with their angle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:02 PM
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Look up “Lying Flat” in ref. to Chinese youth, it is economically disastrous to have increasingly large amounts of your population dropping out of society I mean I don't think someone's value is in how productive they are for the cogs of the machine, but even so... someone not connecting with their community has nothing to do with dating, or women not interested in dating them. Someone with mental health problems needs mental health support, not a girlfriend. And certainly the onus isn't on any …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:01 PM
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Exactly. Nobody is denying the atomization of society (although involuntary celibacy and involuntary singledom is overblown and only affects a small percentage of the population for a temporary period in their adult lives in most cases), it's just that the solution to this has nothing to do with dating. The framing of this argument does not belong in this subreddit which centers mostly around debate of dating, sex, gender dynamics. The solution to a man with mental and physical health problems i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:57 PM
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If you search up "young male syndrome" then you'll understand that having no partner and being unemployed drives men to engage in risky or violent behaviour Perhaps, but the solution to this has nothing to do with pressuring or coaxing women to submit to men they don't want or to 'submit' at all. There are many, many ways to make sure these men get the help they need. Most incels will never harm anyone. I'm using incel in the old definition meaning involuntarily celibate. And implying that incel…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:51 PM
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Plenty of people just aren't pathetic simps or sleazy enough to fake interest just to get laid. Most people get together out of mutual lust and/or attraction (at least at the start).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:37 PM
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I won't even consider dating someone who I have lack of much sexual interest in "You're not repulsed by them but you're not dying to have sex with them either." If I'm have no appetite for them then they are not much different than a friend. I have to find them hot. Now what I find hot and what OP or any of the people in this thread find hot vary wildly. But I'm not dating someone who I don't find 'super attractive'.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:26 PM
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Oh I was responding to Raldabos saying they don't believe most single people are happy or that older single women are happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:44 AM
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Modern dating with the advent of dating apps, the decline of third places, the general increase in COL, and the empowerment of women (they don't need to rely on a man for resources/money as much now) has changed the ballgame completely. Yes, and some of these things are awful 'decline of third spaces' some of these things are great 'empowerment of women', no longer does a person have to choose between kissing someone they are disgusted by and homelessness or exile from their community. And to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:35 AM
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A nice guy (as in a truly decent guy not a 'nice guy TM') doesn't 'explain' how he would treat someone. He shows them. He also shows how he treats other people he can't have sex with. As the saying goes, a date who is kind to you but unkind to the server is not a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:31 AM
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It really depends on the defining factor. Some people are single by choice. Some are single against their will. Women who want to be single will be MUCH happier single. Women who don't want to be will likely not. Same as men. The research I posed in a previous thread shows that for all genders only a good relationship is better than being single. That even a 'neutral' relationship, let's call it unscientifically a 'meh' relationship was less healthy and happy than being alone. But that if you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:29 AM
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Plenty of men are selective. You seem to think most men are out there faking liking someone just to get a date. Some men are that unethical, pretending false enthusiasm just to get laid, but plenty have a bare level of decency and a bare level of self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:27 AM
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Eh it's grammatically clunky and somehow also manages to be very clinical and inhuman sounding, but I get that in the military (and in corporate spheres, and in cults) dropping the language you were forced to use takes time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:15 AM
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If you have the means to do so without hurting anyone, why wouldn't you retire young? You can always change your mind if you get bored and aren't challenging yourself and dig into something else (whether work again in a traditional way or do volunteer work). I'm planning on retiring young too (not as young as you but a few years later). I worked four jobs at once for the better part of a decade (and no none of them passive income), I've put in my time. I've already worked more hours at a pretty …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 01:00 AM
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Heh MLM.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:56 AM
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Most businesses fail... even with good ideas, hard work, and good execution. In the US more than 20% fail in the first year and more than 90% fail overall. You can always try again in a different way some day. Don't consider it sunk-cost fallacy if it's not working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:56 AM
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Maybe people just suck and romance is hard. Think how bad the average person is at romance. It's not something most of us are skilled at. Then look at how many people experience romance before retirement age. 98%, most of those multiple times, most of those, marry. While you should always try to be a better person you're a statistical anomaly if you haven't had sex by 25 and if you haven't had a long-term relationship by your 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:55 AM
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Minimum wage jobs can think you're overqualified too and will leave the moment you get a position more in line with your job history or degrees. I had this problem when I was working on my degree. They wouldn't hire me and they would tell me they wanted someone who wasn't graduating in the near future. My friend with no job experience beat out someone with a Master's at a coffee shop because of things like this. Also a lot of companies have an algorithm filter applications. You need to see what …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:54 AM
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In the US men average almost twice the lifetime sexual partner count of women not that it matters. Also most women and men become sexually active by the end of their 17th year. Plenty of virgins don't want to be desired because they are virgins, or have that be a 'point' in their favor. I was a late bloomer and by the weird proscriptions from people here my n-count is apparently in the 'ideal range'. I still would have never dated anyone who wanted me for those reasons... I actively avoided them…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:50 AM
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People acting like more than a tiny fraction of people have this skill with grooming or makeup is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:45 AM
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Choking is scary. I had to do the heimlich on a friend once as a preteen who had a round tortilla chip of all things completely block her airway. It was probably only a minute or two she was without air but it felt like she was swiftly dying for 15 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:44 AM
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Not sure if memeing....
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:43 AM
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I used to watch my sister's old 'Nip/Tuck' blu rays. It's basically like a more well-written, more well-acted, sexier soap opera with higher production values.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:42 AM
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Awwh, I'm sad about the sarcasm one. I was probably close to that before I got involved with the guy I'm seeing now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:40 AM
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It's because he's hypocritical. He calls women 'dragons of chaos' for doing the same thing and promotes the idea of traditional gender roles while not being able to live up to them himself. People who constantly emphasize this idea of what 'real men are' and should look like, and how they should act, meanwhile he doesn't meet any traditional or conventional ideas of what a 'manly man' is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:38 AM
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Consider the difference between a man crying about a sad movie or expressing disappointment at lost job opportunity or how cute a puppy is versus someone angrily throwing a gaming console at the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:35 AM
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Yeah he also has that whole 'clean your room' thing meanwhile, every interview his offices and personal rooms are fucking filthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:34 AM
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And post actual milking porn thinking it's random men (not porn actors) being victimized by the State for access to their sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:33 AM
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I don't know I think that guy has grandma-issues. “I dreamed I saw my maternal grandmother sitting by the bank of a swimming pool, that was also a river. In real life, she had been a victim of Alzheimer’s disease, and had regressed, before her death, to a semi-conscious state. In the dream, as well, she had lost her capacity for self-control. Her genital region was exposed, dimly; it had the appearance of a thick mat of hair. She was stroking herself, absent-mindedly. She walked over to me, with…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:32 AM
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Usually a wife leaves the house more often than a mother who lives with her son.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:31 AM
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If a woman decides she doesn't want to have a baby, she has all the right to an abortion, next-day pill, adoption, etc. No, even before Roe v Wade was overturned this was impossible or beyond difficult for many people (usually the poorest and most vulnerable).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:29 AM
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It's really not always awarded to the mother. And it's usually a sum that doesn't even pay for 50% of a child's monthly expenses, even assuming they never do sports, extracurriculars, or have to pay for school supplies. Someone very dear to me has two children and the courts determined only $40 a month in child support even though the ex was previously spending around $500/month on them when they lived together and has a higher paying job now. That's not even enough for the gas to drive them to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:28 AM
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Right but bdsm doesn't tend to cause permanent harm to a body aside from the rare scar which is hardly significant damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:24 AM
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This entire sub has a ton of men who refer to men as men but women as 'females'. It's very telling. Additionally, it's just poor grammar to use 'female' as an isolated term. It's one thing if someone in the military from late childhood is just fresh a few weeks learning about civilian life, it's quite another when someone calls themselves a 'man' not a 'male' but calls women 'females'.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:22 AM
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I think you fail to realize the other changes that come (to some) with weight loss. You can often stand up straighter/have better posture. Some people feel more confident and are making eye contact more readily. Some people feel more physically comfortable with fewer rolls squishing, less perspiration, less back pain and look less pained and stressed and act and carry themselves with more calm and relaxation. People who have accomplished a goal also tend to feel better about themselves and tend …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:20 AM
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Pics of you doing expensive things, in expensive places, with expensive things. You wouldn't believe how many people making less than $50K have photos of them doing this. Actually wealthy people are often less inclined to flaunt it this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:17 AM
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How to tell women you make 100k p.a. without telling women you make 100k p.a. Why would you tell people what you make unless you're about to start paying bills together?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:15 AM
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It's not just feminists who have found this to be the case. But many, many researchers who do not remotely identify as feminist. And it's 1 in 6 sexually assaulted not raped (including attempts). And it's actually closer to 1 in 5 for the US. The definition for sexual assault is broader than the one most people use for rape, that might be where you're getting hung up? And the statistic is still valid (technically it's low as sexual assault is one of the most underreported crimes, so it's a conse…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:11 AM
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The research includes men. Though most rape victims are girls and women there is still a tremendous amount of rape and attempted rape against men and boys sadly. And many factors can change your odds for the worse. If you join the military for example, though women who join have a huge increase in likelihood of being sexually assaulted, it goes up considerably for men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:10 AM
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Buildings in Davenport aren't doing so hot. (And the people in them).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:59 PM
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Has that even been a thing for the last three decades?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:59 PM
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Right? Black roughed up nail polish and dark dark long lashes... mmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:58 PM
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As someone who dips toes in goth circles on the regular, don't underestimate the effect of guyliner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:57 PM
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I mean this is how it's worked in most of my relationships. I'm the physically fit one more often and I am not a good fit for kitchen skills. So generally, I'm doing lawn care, taking out garbage, doing pest removal/prevention, basic plumbing, making minor repairs on the exteriors and he's making us dinner and choosing what art to go up on the walls. I'm really good at detail cleaning though but can't interior decorate for shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:56 PM
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Q4W, since we’re all convinced that men and women are equal now, Equal humans inherently, yes. Treated equally, no. I believe I'm an outlier in regards to your question because it's rare that I agree to an exclusive relationship. Generally the idea of a 'serious' 'longterm' relationship is not going to appeal to me in the first place so I would be more interested in the casual guys. But if the 'just one guy' was interested in just keeping it casual from the start then I'd go for him because I ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:52 PM
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Yes as long as he is still a) interesting and b) the level of stupidity is not so much that it puts us in significant danger and c) wherever his starting level is that he is still curious and interested to learn and explore and grow That being said, I've mostly dated scholars, bookish types, who also had at least a modicum of street sense and other competencies. Because those people more often have interests and values that are compatible with mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:49 PM
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Because ultimately you have to spend time with yourself... all the time, so that self might as well be someone you like and respect who is skilled at doing things or interested in learning things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:45 PM
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I mean if you're in the US most people regardless of gender are fat and most people have financial problems so you're going to of course be narrowing your pool considerably by between 70%-80%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:44 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:40 PM
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I think everyone should (at their own pace) work on self-improvement, but not because they think it's what some ephemeral future date/partner/spouse will want. If you go to the gym do it for yourself and the body you want, not the body you think someone else would want. If you work to find a new job that pays better, do it for you, not because some ghost of a dream of a future date might be into the title. Because ultimately you're still stuck with you, whether your dating life improves or not. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:40 PM
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Not even 50 million dollars would get me to change my residence to North Dakota.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:38 PM
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I think the term you are looking for its price discovery. Viewing it in that way can't possibly be the foundation of a healthy relationship no matter how casual or formal. Remember that when it comes to relationships both parties are seeking to maximize their utility. Most people are looking to get laid or find love, not to 'maximize their utility'. Also just because you waited longer ... The more desirable person might arrive but it might not pick you. In this scenario I specifically used an ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:34 PM
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Your entire premise collapses on the idea that women 'need it far more' or that men are inherently the 'stronger gender' with more 'right to do [so]. civilization itself is a favor for women anyway Wow. Well you've shown who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:31 PM
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That's petty middle school logic. Someone who is ethical, regardless of gender, shouldn't base how ethical they are on what some random other person does. If your ethics are dependent on how far a random other person will go, you're not truly trying to be an ethical person to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:12 PM
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Got it. So we should not settle. To avoid becoming bitter femcels we should exclusively date Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:08 PM
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Who are you to tell that guy what he wants. Maybe he likes her. Maybe he just has a fetish. Maybe he likes her soul. Maybe he likes the small amount of fame she got from the show. Who knows. Also I don't know about 'easily'. How many relationships has she 'easily' gotten into since she hit the 300+ mark?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:07 PM
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I mean most women today would want someone younger than those celebrities... but yes the longer a man or woman looks the more likely they will find whatever their version is of attractive. Even if 99 out of 100 decline their advances, that 100th might be into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:05 PM
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Younger generations married couples are half as likely to divorce, less commit less infidelity, and report higher levels of happiness in regards to the marriage compared with the same marriage time frames of older generations (10 millennial couples married for 5 years have half the divorce rate of 10 boomer couples married for 5 years). People are getting married less often (moving in is much more acceptable now, staying solo is much more acceptable now), but when they do marry they are more fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:03 PM
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I've found it's just the opposite. I had to swipe left on so many men and women in so many different cities because they were looking for something long-term. Quite a few people out there are in for the long haul when they get there. And this is demonstrated in that fact that among marriages of younger generations those who marry are half as likely to divorce even when compared with the same marriage time periods of older generations (aka first five years or what have you). They are less likely …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:01 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:57 PM
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I mean regardless of gender, there are billions of adults in the world. Perhaps the "perfect" person for me lives in a country I will never visit. I will only date someone fairly local to me. Even someone five towns over I'm not going to be interested in. The moment I find out they live an hour away it doesn't matter how much I was attracted to them before, they suddenly become unattractive. Someone who would stress that they 'haven't found the best one' perhaps believes to much in the concept o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:56 PM
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No a woman who leaves her husband while he is willingly undergoing chemo will often have a lot of negative gossip follow her as well. Sometimes more because in modern society there is still this inaccurate idea that women are naturally the more 'nurturing' gender. So it can even be viewed as more of a betrayal than if a man does it. Of course it depends on many factors including how they react to the breakup and their social circle, et cetera. Men should not be one fucking iota more moral than w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:47 PM
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Both.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:45 PM
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Sure if he's jobless because he's suffering from an illness as severe as cancer she'd be a jerk to leave him just for that. If it's just that he refuses to pick up even a McDonald's job due to pride or laziness that's different but it would depend on what they had agreed to as a couple. Some couples (the rare ones who can afford it) are okay supporting the other for a limited amount of time even if it's just so one can relax for a few months with video games and refurbishing their resume. I pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:37 PM
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Even the pencil pushers have blood on their hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:21 PM
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I'd don't agree at all. Killing doesn't make someone a man (it often make them a damaged child though). Similarly plenty of women have kids and never become adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:04 AM
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Also, paraphrasing "war has the same effect on men as motherhood has on women". Yikes. Can't say I can see any comparison there. Giving life versus taking life being the main huge distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:00 AM
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Yep. Movies like Ms. 45 also have their places in cinematic history, definitely. Sympathetic protagonist who ultimately ends up doing fucked up shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:58 AM
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Talking to the people you want to date, and being friendly/talking to the gender(s) you want to date. Regularly. My recommendation is multiple people weekly but plenty of people do it less often and still connect with dates and have relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:56 AM
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Authorities on mental reality, physical reality, and gender, yes. Facts don't care about your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:54 AM
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No there are intersex people with male chromosomes who don't have any male-genitalia and whose gentalia is completely female.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:53 AM
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I constantly advocate that people should look at Reddit, TikTok, YouTube et cetera as entertainment and not whole-heartedly take any advice they find there/here or consider them sources for good info beyond content, storytelling/et cetera.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:51 AM
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Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:04 PM
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A women who dates and has relationships still has better advice to give a man trying to date than that man could possibly receive from someone who admits they have not ever gotten a second date or had a relationship. So many people on here are like 'durh don't ask the fish' and then ask someone who doesn't even have bait and has never been to the water.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:03 PM
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You'd be surprised how many people don't know how to properly do 1 and 2 or just don't do them even if they know, regardless of gender. Or people who think you don't have to scrub (with a soapy lather) in between your toes and under your feet as well as the entirety of your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:02 PM
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Just remember, go for the gym body YOU want not what you think the person who will share a sexy time with you will want. Because if working out doesn't results in an improvement in your sex life, you're still going to be stuck with that body. Might as well be with one you are comfortable in and like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:01 PM
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What are dusties? I feel like my definition of that slang that I'm familiar with isn't relevant here. I've only known 'dusties' to mean middle-aged or older male groupies who follow rock and/or country bands.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:01 PM
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An astounding 2% of women are electricians and carpenters are a bit better at almost 4% They'd pretty quickly get together a Discord (look at the 'are we seeing the same guy facebook groups, you think we couldn't put together a priority network for finding women electricians and farmers in two shakes?). It wouldn't be more dire if women lost all men than if men lost all women. It would be similar. Humanity would likely survive in either scenario. Especially since training requires a ton of time,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:00 PM
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Okay, fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:58 PM
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Yeah yeah yeah y’all go ahead and do all that shit, I don’t care Every certified and respectable health and mental health organization in the world 'does this shit' it's not my personal opinion, it's the cold hard facts. I’ll play along to be nice, Well that's good at least you have the bare minimum of social IQ and understanding how to interact with humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:56 PM
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Intersex isn't just genitals. It includes a lot of people with hormonal and chromosomal distinctions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:55 PM
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I was agreeing with you and adding to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:54 PM
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It's in development but not fully tested as safe yet and not available to the general public. Maybe in the next few decades we will be able to get infusions that keep us looking and feeling the age we are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:53 PM
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Yep you are statistically likely to have dates, relationships, sex, if you keep putting yourself out there and don't die young. It's pretty much inevitable. Only 2% of the US population for example never marries, dates, or has sex by their 60s and most of that is likely asexuals and severe agoraphobics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:52 PM
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Some of my friends have had such good luck avoiding misogynists and nazis (particularly on dating apps) by dyeing their hair "unnatural" colors that I'm tempted to do it, hehe. It's silly that people make assumptions about you based on how you dress or groom but sometimes it can work to one's advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:50 PM
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It's more that incel was a term started by a woman to define a group she was part of and sympathetic too, but because language changes ('woke' used to mean aware of the reality faced by minorities, now it's an insult for 'too pc') incel now refers to a mentality. In other words, even people who are not celibate or who are deliberately celibate can still be incels in the sense of if they have an incel 'mentality'. Language changes. SJW used to be more of an honorific for example (Dr. Martin Luthe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:49 PM
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Death Wish is a good film even though the protagonist is a sympathetic but fucked up unhinged heinous freak.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:47 PM
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What are your favorite and least favorite things about air travel?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:46 PM
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The people who feel free to call women 'useless warm holes' and then get pressed when someone responds 'who still won't swipe right on you' are wild. Fortunately, I'm seeing it less and less even here. Don't dish it out if you can't take even a fraction of it coming back.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:44 PM
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Nah intersex people exist. Trans people exist. Plenty of both are still women. Pretty sure the individual and their doctor know what a woman is better than a random bystander or Redditor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:41 PM
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"feeeemales" Do you not see when the women regulars greet people in this these community threads after three-day bans? Also Two X often talks about things like medical issues, and fitting in with their mothers in law, it's not all about 'complaining and hating men'. Also.. why in that sentence did you use 'females' to refer to women but when you wrote 'hating men' you didn't write 'hating males'? Kinda sus.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:39 PM
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Also STIs are more about protection and education and prevention not about 'body count'. A virgin can give a virgin some of the deadlier and more expensive to treat STIs (HIV, HPV, congenital syphilis). We see a lot of STI blooms in populations with low sex ed not populations with high "n-counts".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:35 PM
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"Women be like" posts a Reddit link as though it's a source
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:32 PM
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I think people are ignoring that this is actually kind of a privilege. Women essentially have the final say when it comes to who is "appropriate" for the family to hang out with and most men just go along with what their wives say. When you do a group project in class or at work, you think it's a privilege when the others coast and do no work just because it means you get 'final say' in the project and how it's executed? It's not a privilege to do the work of multiple people because someone is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:27 PM
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Not to mention if the 'snap' happened now we are living in a time while though still a minority in the industry there is a higher percentage of women electricians and carpenters than ever in human history. They'd train apprentices. Women would be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:25 PM
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The human race cannot survive without either gender so this is hypothetical of course. It could adapt too. If women disappeared tomorrow the men in a few generations would probably figure out how to make artificial wombs work and how to duplicate frozen existing eggs or derive them from tissues from men. If men disappeared tomorrow women would flex sperm banks for a generation or so while developing artificial sperm. The tech isn't there yet but could be in a world where it was prioritize to per…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:23 PM
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This simply isn't true. Plenty of men out there care about who women are, I've only dated men who do and they are out there in droves. I can't say if they are a majority of the population or not, but I've never had trouble finding them no matter where I lived or whether I found dates through apps or organically out in the world or through social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:16 PM
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I agree to an extent. You don't have to have mirrored interests as long as the interests are compatible (if your hobby is a rally supporting an oil company bringing jobs to the county it's probably not going to mesh well if his hobby is protesting lack of accountability for oil spills, environmental work). Also you both need to respect each others' hobbies/interests and the time put into them. If she games for 7 hours a day on the weekends, probably a compatible date would need to be able to occ…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:13 PM
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As long as the person isn't exhibiting alarming behaviors where dropping contact without a goodbye message is often the most rational and safe decision (stalking, threats, levels of obsession that border on these things), it's just common decency and etiquette to say it's not going to work out and wish them well. That being said, too many times, someone who has never even met someone in person and only exchanged a handful of messages acts unhinged if someone suddenly drops contact. Like yeah, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:59 PM
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Oh well you're just wrong. Even if we were talking about sex not gender 1 out of every 50 people are intersex. If you speak to a human biologist there are actually several thousand variations (but most subtle so we tend to categorize into male, female, or intersex). And when we talk about gender there are many too. Gender is an entirely different conversation though. Throughout human civilization people have been recognized who have been neither man nor woman. Sometimes these people were ostraci…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:53 PM
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But you seem to be indicating 'men had the upper hand over women' as though that were a good thing. And as though you are wishing we could go back to a time when drafts and dying in wars was more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:51 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:46 PM
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More than a third of marriages begin with what was intended as a one night stand. Marriages are a pretty significant example of a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 07:20 PM
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There are some. But it's not as much of an epidemic as you think. About half billion men and women don't even want children and don't look for partners who value having kids at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 07:20 PM
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I'm not going to be attracted to someone I don't find hot. That being said, the things you list 'unmuscular, chubby, short, balding' are all things I DO find attractive in a lot of people at the same level as someone who has washboard abs, is tall, and has a lot of hair. So if you see me with a short chubby guy, you might not find him attractive but I very much do. Sometimes even slightly more than the six-pack guy. That being said there are some appearances I'm not attracted to. And I won't dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 07:16 PM
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Women have more choice so can afford to be picky and find someone "authentic" Lmao, wanting someone authentic isn't picky. Plenty of fairly authentic people out there of many genders who value authenticity in others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:43 PM
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And more cooking too. This is changing though especially in younger generations. It's much more egalitarian among zoomer and young millennial couples but yeah women still (on average) take on more than their fair share of the cleaning and other domestic responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:31 PM
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All I can give to my guy is non-manic pixie goth-adjacent woman who is neurotypical. Most women and men are suited to making at least four different meals in the kitchen. I'm an anomaly who isn't a good fit for that particular type of domestic work. I'm very good at cleaning though but will only do it for myself, not a date, unless they were struggling with illness or something. And anyway, I'm so good at cooking and cleaning that I can handle the load for both of us. Doing dishes and cleaning o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:30 PM
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Right? I'm the rare woman who isn't a good fit for the kitchen, nobody I've met is like that. All the men and women in my family of all ages can cook. Most women cook, most men cook even among millennials and zoomers...it may be a lot more meal prep because most of us work full-time in addition to having a side hustle, but still...cooking. Most do it for years supporting themselves or sharing a place with roommates before they ever consider moving in with a romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:28 PM
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because the majority of women these days are either unable or unwilling to do those things, even for themselves. No most women still do these things, they just also work full-time. I'm actually pretty rare in my experience and what is commonly observed by outsiders of my generation in being a woman who generally doesn't cook. It's pretty common among most men and women in my age group (most of us twenty-somethings) to do both. So many zoomers making cooking videos on TikTok or cleaning tips and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:27 PM
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Most modern women Most modern women work full-time and support themselves for years before they even share a power bill with someone, not sure what you're on about. Its the women who claim 80% men are unattractive Women aren't saying that. Men aren't saying that. A long-debunked OKCupid blog once said a bunch of people were found to be of average attractiveness but that the women still messaged a broader and more diverse range of the men appearance-wise on a single archaic dating app than the me…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:23 PM
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It’s therefore imperative that women work on developing true friendships with men and not just having immediate sex with men who give them the tingles bu Most people aren't 'friends first' when they're dating someone or when they first decide to have sex with someone, whether it be on date 1 or date 40. Nor should they necessarily be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:20 PM
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I mean it can be. Cooking an incredible meal? Not everyone can do that. It takes skill and panache. Same with (some) high detail levels of cleaning. Sexual skills can be mind-blowing accomplishments. But to reduce a woman or a man merely to these would be ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:19 PM
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they take what they can get There are a lot more people with self-respect and who would not pretend to be excited about someone they're not than you give people credit for. Even couples where you find one or both to be 'ugly' usually are mutually attractive to each other (at least at the start of the relationship). Just because she's not your type or he's not your type, doesn't mean they're not each others' type and first choices. I have never met an ugly woman with a very active dating life eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:18 PM
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In terms of appearance, every fifth woman suits me. In terms of psyche, character and compatibility maybe one in ten thousand. True, every second or third man suits me in appearance but in terms of psyche, character, and compatibility maybe one in a hundred thousand.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:15 PM
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Our whole worth as women comes from how good we can serve our family and husbands. No it doesn't. I'd even argue that in traditional relationships many husbands still value their wives in more ways than 'service'. I've seen more than a few traditional style couples where he still values her for her ability to fish, to run a side part-time business out of their home, to withstand chemo, to call him on his bullshit et cetera. No one truly cares about our personalities. I've had people become inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 06:12 PM
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This was spot on and doesn't get talked about enough. True I know people who became a second mother to the kid. When they broke up with the dad they got over the dad in a few weeks. They still feel like they have a kid-shaped hole in their heart years later and miss the little one like a beloved niece or nephew but the dad cut off all contact (which is pretty normal after a breakup anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:59 PM
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You'll shrink your dating pool being a single dad who doesn't want to date single moms but you'll still have millions who might be interested. There are some single childfree women who might find your good parenting skills and responsible nature assuming you have one attractive. On a personal level I've known a few divorced dads and while most of them dated other single parents, some of them have dated (and in one case moved in with) a woman without children. I personally will not date a parent …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:57 PM
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I don't think pre-selection is regularly the case. After all, the number one source of relationship today is online dating where you don't know someone's dating history or who likes this man or how many women 'approved' or 'approve' of him. You could argue that this is more likely in alternate ways relationships start where you have a mutual social group or academic networking group and might know a little bit about who is dating who or who talks about someone positively. Since high school it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:49 PM
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I don't think it's very common for friends with benefits or one night stands to evolve into romantic relationships It's exceedingly common.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:46 PM
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I appreciate your opinion but in my experience at 50, I’ve never met a potential date at ANY social event nor have been set-up with anyone through one Aww yeah sometimes it's luck. Sometimes some people are born with or cultivate a naturally sociable disposition. Sometimes it's just at these particular events people are more receptive or compatible friend and social groups just find each other. I've definitely also faded away from some social groups where there wasn't a good or friendly dynamic.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:45 PM
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More than 70% of women watch porn (US).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:44 PM
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It seemed as though they were saying 'men had the upper hand over women' as a good thing or balanced thing... which I why I commented. My mistake if I misunderstood them. You may know DoingIT989 personally, I do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:40 PM
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As for French brands of cosmetics, this has nothing to do with actual use by French women. In this case it does. These brands were originally and to this day catering to French women. Try to count LV bags in France vs. in Japan or Korea Bags have nothing to do with cosmetics. Women in France do NOT wear red lipstick on a regular basis. Yes, many do. Not over 40, it's true and I should have specified that. Under 40, yes. It is American women who don't seem to be able to walk outside without makeu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:39 PM
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Pill ideologies seem to think 'top tier' is the same for everyone. None of the qualities most of those ideologies list as 'ideal' and 'top tier' are of any interest to me (high income, tallness, how well they do with other women) and aside from height I know nothing of these men's incomes or previous dates or how women view them in most cases before I decide that I want them and will go on a date with them. In the cases where I do low income and not much of a history with other women doesn't dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:33 PM
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Obviously I was talking about if a man and a woman were being 'pinned' by their libido intensity on the same spectrum map. For example, the guy I'm seeing now, he'd be a little lower than mine if we both put 'pins' on the same graph.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:29 PM
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Meaning doesn't come from what your original plan was but from what develops. I'm not saying most but plenty of relationships that start casually turn into something just as meaningful or more meaningful than when people had formal and deliberate intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:06 PM
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That's just the usual woman's speak. What does this even mean? Go to France. Many women never make up in their daily life, only for special occasions. In Japan, makeup is forbidden in schools so high school girls don't makeup. France is the country that is famous for their women wearing and popularizing red lipstick in the modern era. It's true that it's less common for women in France to wear eyemakeup, but concealer and mascara are regularly worn there. You don't even have to have studied cosm…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 12:52 AM
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Yes especially in my gaming groups, nerd groups, convention travel groups. Approximately 40% of the guys in those group struggled with dates and relationships initially (when I started we were all late teens). All of them are married, in a long-term relationship, or actively getting dates and going on dates and have had relationships now. I can't say what was the dominating factor for each of them in their success but I hazard that some of the success they had is because they kept coming to thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 11:45 PM
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If women enjoy sex, then why do women require tons of money for sex Most don't. Most people having sex are not making a lot of money. Most people having sex in the US whether men or women are one paycheck away from homelessness. Or for example, why are prostitutes mostly female? A lot of it is stigma and the social fallout a woman faces visiting a sex worker versus a man. But there are various factors including (as you mentioned) a lack of sex workers marketed toward women. If every legal brothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 11:13 PM
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Absolutely!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:57 PM
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No. Patently false. Most people wear makeup to look better & feel more attractive. The data shows otherwise. Facts don't care about your feelings. Beautifying is one of the reasons but it's not one of the top ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:55 PM
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Yeah YouTube is a content/views/entertainment platform much like IG and TikTok. It's not a source for much of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:17 PM
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Basically a high, value men being real and not gaslighting women into telling them what they want to hear in order to sleep with them. This is a YouTube video.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:16 PM
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Yeah even if you don't do protein shakes or hormones/steroids, even the caloric intake of significant protein every day will cost you. You can't get jacked on lentils alone in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:15 PM
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Ask any salt-swept, sun-dappled bum who plays mediocre guitar and has a van and surfboard down by the beach and couch surfs. They have plenty of women. Money and status can buy you access to more free time and places with women, more social gatherings, and better clothes, but it can't buy someone a good personality or make them good in bed et cetera. Most people who have sex and relationships (in the US) are one paycheck away from homelessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 10:14 PM
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If men could easily deduce what women look like without makeup, that would defeat the purpose of makeup. Firstly most men can deduce what women look like without makeup and know what women look like with makeup the first time they spend more than a few hours alone with a woman or spend time in spaces where women only occasionally wear makeup (hiking, the beach, the swimming pool, gyms). Secondly it wouldn't defeat the purpose of makeup at all. Most people who wear makeup do it for the top two re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:59 PM
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Insta, like TikTok shows you what you interact with. So if you don't interact with profiles/stories/pages featuring men as often your feed will be filled with women. If you interact more with women wearing makeup... you will get your feed filled with more women wearing makeup. My TikTok when I had it was filled with exotic botany, goth eyemakeup tutorials, and physics lectures. Some people on this subreddit 'lament' that their pages are all filled with 'fake' filtered women when it's literally t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:56 PM
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While there is plenty of fixing sprays and waterproof makeup, you are right, most women who are actually in the water at a beach will have minimal makeup/washed away makeup/faded by the sun and salt by the end of the day makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:52 PM
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Yeah botox at a mall kiosk is a scam. You need a certified provider for that or the botulism part of 'botox' can render you paralyzed/locked in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:52 PM
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The first time a woman spends a night in most cases they will know what she looks like without it. Or if their school had a swim team (most swimmers don't wear makeup in the pool) or if they've spent anytime around women outside of work or school.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:50 PM
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Also a lot of people on this subreddit don't realize that the 'natural' makeup they say they like will generally involve more layers, more artifice, more product than a dramatic/heavier/artsy look.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:48 PM
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Most women don't contour.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:44 PM
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Honestly, as a guy, I've never understood how so many men are so easily fooled by makeup. Most aren't, this subreddit is an anomaly. Any man who has grown up with women, seen women on the swim team, or had a woman stay the entire night in his bed can deduce what the average woman looks like without her makeup on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:43 PM
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It depends on the product. I recently started using a very mild popular product that within weeks faded a scar I have had since childhood. I actually stopped using the product there because I didn't want it to disappear entirely since it's a fond memory, heh. There is a reason why celebrities and many wealthy types even without makeup tend to have better skin than other people. Money to buy the few anti-aging creams that actually work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:41 PM
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The best anti-aging cream is sunscreen, applied frequently from a young age. Better yet, a hat and long sleeves. There's a joke in the goth community that everyone looks like immortals and even the sixty year old Morticia and Gomez couples look like they're in their thirties because of staying out of the sun/only coming out at night, heh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:40 PM
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Depends on the woman but it also depends on the generation. Plenty of zoomers have worn makeup regardless of gender even if they are a 'manly man'. Whether for streaming, or their emo/goth phase, or to cover a blemish when they are best man at someone's wedding et cetera. I would agree that if we're talking about men and women over 45 so not millennials or zoomers it's much less acceptable. Also it depends on the part of the country and/or world you're in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:39 PM
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The moment you sleep with someone you see what they look like the next day without artifice. If a dude has spent anytime around women who shower or get dirty they've seen their faces without makeup (their sisters, women on the swim team et cetera). Only someone who hasn't interacted with women very much can't deduce what they look like without makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:37 PM
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Foundation alone eliminates acne scars, dark spots, red marks, corrects skin tone, and makes your skin look smoother & healthier. Most women cannot apply foundation in a way that covers all this. Most men know what women look like without makeup if they have sisters or the first time a romantic interest spends the night and they see her in the morning. Most men know and can easily deduce what a woman looks like without makeup unless she is a professional or the rare very skilled amateur.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:36 PM
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Also lipstick lesbians exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:33 PM
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So it would just be that the people good at doing makeup would be the best at a good skin care regiment and hair care, eyebrow grooming, and hair styling. The scale would quickly adjust and be very similar to what it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:33 PM
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If modern forms didn't exist, people would just use berries and malachite and charcoal like they did before. Throughout history makeup has been more commonly used by men than women, and for many millennia in many cultures was exclusively allowed to be used by men. Our forefathers wore more makeup than our foremothers (and also high heels when women didn't or were discouraged from it). It is decoration, art, grooming, culture, community, as well as beautifying. If people just all decided to stop …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:31 PM
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Men are expected to approach less than ever before in human history. I will grant that men still do most of the approaching but women do more than they ever have (and it's rising). One of the most popular dating apps only allows women to do the approaching. It's not a rare thing. And it's much "better" than it's ever been in this regard. Yes we women still face shame for being 'too forward' or 'looking desperate' just by being friendly and taking initiative and asking someone out but more of us …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:27 PM
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Given that men are still prized for being providers or established No many women and other men do not 'prize men for this'. Most people are one paycheck away from homelessness (men and women) and still date, have sex, have children, marry and/or have relationships throughout their adult lifetimes. Most women work full time, it usually takes two incomes for a 2+ person household to function adequately, and women make equal to or more than their live-in partners in an almost 50/50 manner. Rent bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:23 PM
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Even if we don't look at anecdotes but the data, most men still have sex by the end of age 17 and more than 90% by age 25. By retirement age only 2% of all humans have never had sex and that consists mostly of asexuals, severe agoraphobics, and the comatose. Dating on other hand happens to everyone who looks for it up to 97% by their 40s. And most of that percentage begins in their mid-to-late twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:19 PM
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That statistically even ugly men mostly get laid by age 25 and are mostly married before they are in their 40s. It's rare for unattractive people to never have long-term relationships (unless by choice). It just tends to happen sometimes later in life for them (but that also depends on their social skills and other ways they 'stand out'). They might not have as many partners as someone with their identical personality who is conventionally hotter. Still, statistically, it's inevitable they end u…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:10 PM
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92% of women masturbate...why are they masturbating exactly if they have no sex drive? Not to mention some of that remaining 8% would desperately like to but have been shamed out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:32 PM
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You'd really prefer men to be drafted and die in wars more frequently?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:30 PM
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I only see (and participate) in the assumption that women don't get horny, or that there isn't a spectrum where plenty of women of high libido are higher on that spectrum than men of low libido. Counters come through when posters try to claim low libido men don't exist (look at dead bedrooms if you want an idea of how they definitely do) or that women are never just default horny and only 'responsive'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:27 PM
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There are some women who are even thirstier than most men. I'm one of them. Managing libido has been a lifelong, daily, hourly endeavor. I'm sure men with a higher libido than I have exist I've just never met them. But when you meet a woman you have no idea how her libido compares to yours is the nature of the discussion. You might be on the medium end of the spectrum. She might be very high or vice versa. People also conflate high libido with lack of self control when sometimes it can be the op…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:22 PM
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Men do not have to ask for or pay for dates. In the US 68% of people believe that for dates (particularly first dates) both parties should split the bill and/or offer to pay for themselves. One of the fastest rises to the top echelon of popular dating apps has been one in which only women can 'approach'/'initiate'. Do most men still ask out women overall? Yes, absolutely. Do a higher percentage of women ask out men than likely ever before in human history? Yes. And it's only rising.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:19 PM
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Art is subjective. But if you're concerned what kind of eye you are using for this start making art in this style with men in it and see how things compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:13 PM
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No that's inaccurate. Men in the US have almost twice the average number of sexual partners in a lifetime compared to women. And in both cases it's often single digits (slightly lower/slower in zoomers and young millennials so far but partially due to the pandemic and partially due to income/stress of cost of living and other factors).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:11 PM
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If women were as horny then men, then they'd hook-up with average and ugly men ever day or so. Not true. High libido doesn't mean you don't have impulse control. I've never met a woman (or man) with a libido as high as mine. Yet I manage it constantly. Other people do the same. I tend to mostly date high libido people too. They know how to manage their desire. In fact (in some cases) people with ravenous libidos are better than average at managing them because we've had to do it to function, wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:09 PM
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You absolutely can. More than a third of marriages begin with what was intended to be a hookup/one-night-stand. Plenty of other long-term relationships start that way too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:07 PM
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There is something to be said for this too. I was discouraged as a teen when I first started to work out regularly because all the things people had promised (for me) were bullshit. They said I'd feel better, sleep better, be more calm and relaxed, have better skin, et cetera. None of that happened. Before I found out the best most 'fun' ways to distract myself working out I just had to power through. Also team sports really worked for me because I didn't want to let the team down by not practic…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:39 AM
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It's not that I hated it it's just that it never made me feel better, only worse. None of the promised benefits ever came (I didn't sleep better, it didn't calm me, my skin didn't get any more clear or vibrant than it was, no tangible benefits). That being said I logically knew and confirmed that it was good for my heart/body et cetera. To 'trick' myself into having fun I would (and still do) make a playlist with warm up, cardio, and cool down music at least 45 minutes long (up to two hours) and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:37 AM
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It's stable because it forces peoples into dialogue and reconciliation of their differences People can be really good at dialogue and reconciliation and still not want to get married or not have marriage be a good idea for them. Is stable because its longer enough so the child has a paternal figure so he don't become walking human waste. Why are you shitting on children, particularly so many who overcome lack of support from their dads and moms? The happiness of peoples are irrelevant Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:26 AM
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I know you're trolling but I would agree that it just means supportive... except the timing. She doesn't reach out at all and then RIGHT when you're getting married she reaches out? Possibly innocent and just socially careless a bit but if it were me in their shoes I'd have my guard up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:11 AM
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Yeah sounds like she really broke his frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:33 AM
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I never know when you're trolling and when/if you're ever sincere.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:29 AM
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Ugh, I wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:16 AM
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We do?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:16 AM
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I don't judge people who get work done but in more extreme things the risk isn't worth the 'reward' for me. I can't see myself ever getting boob work done even if they someday change into something I don't want. I have watched those surgeries being performed and I have also seen how they go wrong. The risk of a bad outcome (ranging from just not looking 'good' to causing permanent damage to your arm, back, and shoulder muscles, to causing chronic and painful health problems to death) is just too…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:16 AM
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I think they are pretty. Even the extreme ones look cool in a theatrical or dramatic way. Some people like drama and art, some people like a light touch or a subtle enhancement. Some don't like anything other than natural untouched eyelash. Whatever works. If I were single and looking I'd definitely date someone with heavy falsies as long as they were sanitized and swapped out frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:11 AM
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I think it's sweet as long as he isn't constantly obsessed with the ex and it's not right after the death. I wouldn't necessarily put a strict time frame on it but I would be hesitant to date someone within a year of their ex's death. You still grieve loved ones even if you're no longer feeling romantic about them because you have a new love/lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:09 AM
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Just go and hear the voice in your head while you type: a reduction in stable relationship is a good thing; where in the world it would be a good thing? You're framing it in a presumptuous way. A marriage where people are pressured to be in it against their will is not 'stable' at all. And plenty of relationships that don't include marriage are stable. You're acting like a marriage where people resent each other, cheat, divorce quickly, and are miserable is 'stable'. A good stable healthy happy …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:53 AM
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Marriages aren't 'skyrocketing' to the bottom, and a drop in marriages isn't a BAD thing. It would be far worse if couples who weren't a good match or where one or both weren't that interested in each other got married. Younger generations get married less often and a bit later in life but have half the divorce rates of older generations, have less infidelity, and report higher levels of happiness in regards to the marriage itself than older generations, even when you compare 100 married boomer …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:20 AM
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It's just one solution. And nobody said anything about 'forcing'. There are tons of other ways to make sure society functions so everyone has access to food, shelter, hygiene, enrichment and relative dignity that have nothing to do with dating or marriage or pressure to pair up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:17 AM
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Most men (US) are one paycheck away from homelessness. Most women too. Surviving on a one income household regardless if it's a stay-at-home-wife or stay-at-home-husband is impossible for most homes. Very few people regardless of gender are living on 'easy mode'. All people have value but not because they are men or because they are women, but because they are people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:27 PM
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They realize that was directed and co-written by two women and one of the reasons they chose the material was because it is satirizing 80s yuppie culture as well as satirizing toxic masculinity I hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:14 PM
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in dating you're expected to have a daily routine that would requires you to literally not sleep. What are you talking about. Almost everyone ultimately dates and has relationships (most marry) regardless of what their daily routine looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:14 PM
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Even Japan recognizes that Japan will get destroyed as a civilization if they do nothing about its extremely low birth rates. Japan would solve most of its concerns by having better immigration policies and increasing pay while decreasing average work hours, same as the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:06 PM
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You were denying the penis has muscle and that muscles in the penis can atrophy with lack of use. I gave you sources showing that was inaccurate on an anatomical physiological level. I thought you were also denying the prostate cancer angle, thank you for acknowledging and clarifying that you were not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:08 PM
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Heh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:06 PM
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I'm sure to someone who gets their kicks talking about DDOSing dating sites due to a 'if they can't be happy dating nobody can' type mentality I may appear boring yes. But it's okay. I'm plenty interesting to the segment of people I want to be interesting to in many cases. That's actually a good analogy for dating. You don't have to be interesting to everyone, just the people you're a good match with and who are a good match with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 10:02 PM
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I use ad block so I'm not the best person for this. Plenty of articles written and studies still showing that 'dad bod' is still in even though usually 'fad' body types fade in a couple years.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:58 PM
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YouTube is a content creation platform... I'm not going to watch that. Yet in a civilized society it's a total failure because it causes disparity and frustration among men Frustration is part of the human condition. Men being frustrated is not a reason to pressure people to get together who don't both want to be together.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:50 PM
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You did not learn that not masturbating caused atrophy in anatomy Yes, in an introductory class in fact. It wasn't a huge part of the coureswork but it was still touched upon. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4149567/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27033442/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/why-more-sex-may-lower-prostate-cancer-risk/ https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/ejaculation_frequency_and_prostate_cancer "The scientists found no evidence that frequent…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:20 PM
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Fun? Not for the dudes on here who already lament their pathetic experiences on there and difficulties with the app. Effective? Hardly. Short term at best. You think the huge online dating industry won't eventually be able to overcome this? All you'd end up doing is lowering the chance of matches with women and men temporarily. Not to mention in some cases it's a felony. Think dating is hard for these guys now, think how much more difficult it will be when they have a felony record because they …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:17 PM
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I was just saying the institution of marriage is dying Not dying at all, just balancing out. It's still a very popular institution. Just those who don't want to participate in it have more of a choice now. We marriage free types are still a minority. And again there are people who would have been married solely due to pressure from parents decades ago who still stay together for decades in committed relationships now, just without involving the city, state, or church in it. The evidence you prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:14 PM
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There is no good when you leave a significant amount of men alone. Sure, they are just as capable of adapting as anyone else. Not to mention it's not a significant amount of men. Most men are still having sex, a small percentage are single-not-by-choice, the new GSS data dropped and showed men are more sexually active compared to the GSS data from right before and over the pandemic. Polygamy has always been around. Entire societies were built on it too. It's also not that popular. Most people ul…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:09 PM
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. The penis is not a muscle Please read again where I said 'and the muscles surrounding it', which contribute to length, girth, and health. I swear sex and anatomy classes need to be better. "The bulbospongiosus muscles compress the bulb of the penis and the corpus spongiosum which can aid in emptying the spongy urethra. The anterior fibers of the muscle surround the proximal part of the body of the penis. These fibers can increase the pressure on the erectile tissue in the root of the penis for…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:02 PM
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More than half of all American millennials aren't married. 44% are before they reach age 38 in the US. More than half of those who are 40-42. We don't have the numbers yet on older because millennials aren't that old yet. You're also not considering all those in long-term, decade-long relationships who may live together but aren't interested in a legal contract or contributing to the wedding and marriage industries. Fewer marriages isn't a bad thing anyway. Take 100 boomer couples who married fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 08:57 PM
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Media isn't often pressing men to get a 'speedo body' it's pressing women to get a 'bikini body'. I grew up in a progressive city in a progressive state and still there was (and is) constant pressure from all sides to 'look conventionally good' as a woman. Media, parents, friends, marketing, all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 08:36 PM
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It depends on: The severity of the issue and if it results in hurtful or harmful behavior How well and how consistently it's being managed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 08:34 PM
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It also literally atrophies someone's dick and the muscles surrounding it. No fap increases chances of prostate cancer significantly as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 08:33 PM
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That's unhinged. Instead they should band together and make an effective, successful, welcoming to a balanced gender ratio app.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 08:30 PM
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No it doesn't. Just your idea of what civilization should be. It's a better world when people are with who they want to be with who is a willing and enthusiastic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 08:26 PM
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So almost 80% have? That's a huge majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 08:25 PM
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You still have to go outside sometimes and even in the air conditioning downtown you get hot dancing for hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 11:00 AM
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Ultimately dick size is just one factor not the only factor. And just as dicks come in all shapes and sizes and are flexible and can retract and extend, so do vaginas come in all shapes and sizes. Some have shallow canals and cannot comfortably or happily accommodate an average or larger than average penis. Some have narrow canals and can only have enjoyable orgasms that aren't dry and painful with average or below average sized penises. The walls contract and also expand and lubricate when arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:03 AM
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Most people who agree to have sex with someone have no idea what their dick size is. Most don't run screaming from the room if it's smaller than average. Most end up enjoying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:54 AM
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It's incredibly sad. I could not live like that long-term. I'm totally patient if someone is struggling with an illness or something. But they still need to show active interest (overall) in our sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:49 AM
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I believe only 1.3% of people have doctorates in the US and it's actually similar worldwide.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:47 AM
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The average man in the US is 4" taller than the average woman anyway. Most women (and men) don't go for someone more than four years older or younger than they are, many go with someone in their same graduating class or a year after or before. Most people don't know someone's level of wealth when they agree to date them and most couples date someone in their same socioeconomic stratum.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:44 AM
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Oh Momocon of course. How else do people expect them to stay cool in the Atlanta humidity? Edited to add: Ever go to Dragon Con? It has a slice of Momocon-ness built in and a lot of the same con-goers due to the location and time of year.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:41 AM
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Cosplay is fun. A lot of cons have a lot of physical activity at night (dances, raves). Some people like to have a sparingly-dressed cosplay so they have rave gear built in basically. I've never done cheeks-out levels of cosplay but I definitely have fewer layers on for Saturday night when you're dancing until dawn in the rave and party ballrooms. Also many cons have decent anti-harassment policies. When a space is well-maintained to prevent creepers, people can feel safer dressing in things lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:41 AM
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Or like an episode of Ted Lasso or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:38 AM
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Eh you can both do everything right and not be a long-term match. It can still not be a good idea to stay together. Sometimes people grow apart or realize their relationship is not sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:37 AM
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The majority of people agree to date without knowing if someone is high income. Most people ultimately seek out and date people in the same socioeconomic stratum. But yes, gold diggers exist. They aren't common and they are easy to avoid by not disclosing or flashing your income. Plenty of good dressers and gourmet eaters budget for the finer things in life to occasionally indulge in on a modest income, you can't just look at someone unless their person and finances are public knowledge as a pub…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:32 AM
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Okay so it sounds like that was just a generic power point image and she gave it the context that in this example she has added the context that the man was neglecting sharing parental duties (the absent fatherhood you mentioned). So according to you it sounds like she wasn't denigrating a man having a social life or playing/doing physical activities with his friends, but that if he's doing this regularly instead of his share of the child rearing. So it doesn't sound
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:29 AM
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No you're misunderstanding. If you take 100 married boomer couples and 100 millennial couples who have been married the same amount of time, the boomers have twice as many divorces. If you are a zoomer who gets married you are half as likely to divorce in the exact same marriage time frame as someone who is Gen X or older.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:20 AM
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I'm saying it's not normal or common and it's definitely not healthy to treat relationships this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:19 AM
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Many of us (myself included) had years of experiencing invisibility and disposability. It's not a uniquely male experience (though I do grant that it's more common among men but not by a staggering amount). It doesn't make the celebrity being gross seven years later any more welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:30 AM
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Almost everyone finds someone to date, almost everyone finds multiple people to date in a lifetime. Most get married or at least move in together. Even if they don't self-improve. The reason people recommend self-improvement for those struggling with dating is manifold. Here are some of the reasons: Someone obsessed with dating becomes uncomfortable to be around and uncomfortable with themselves, if they expand their attentions to other things that give them joy or health or satisfaction or conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:28 AM
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Heh, come into their house muzzy-eyed and smelling like weed, that's not the best idea necessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 02:01 AM
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I'm sorry that happened to you but alimony is not awarded in 90% of divorces. Why, after being treated like a transaction would you still promote the idea that such is a healthy way to have a relationship? It's not. You've experienced why it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:50 AM
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I don't know why people dislike the market analogy so much Because people aren't commodities and don't behave like them. Commodities are static unfeeling, unthinking, unmoving things. And plenty of times two people just want to kiss or fuck out of visceral desire, without weighing any transactions whatsoever. Sometimes people also come together in a relationship and they're enjoying a meal at the table together, not wondering what the other brings to it. It's unhealthy to think of people as an u…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:49 AM
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It can mean party, swingers. It's also a symbol of slavery back in ye olden days. It can also mean nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:44 AM
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It was closer to 70/50 (men women) but in the 1960s. Currently it's not. It's said that you think it's 50%. That's completely inaccurate based on all the data we have. And yes they have ways of removing/catching the extreme/dishonest answers and remove that data from the result.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:39 AM
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We don't have the data on zoomers yet because they are too young to have been married 8 years. But if you compared 8 year marriage boomer couples to millennials with that length of marriage it would still be that the millennials have half the divorces compared to the boomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:38 AM
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I mean it could be. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:37 AM
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No, it's not fun to get unwelcome rude attention even if it's from celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:36 AM
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A lot of them weirdly seem to be wanting to be objectified, That's just a job, not wanting to be objectified. Your clients/customers still need to treat you with civility. Some other workers also sell their bodies for their work (US military, oil fields, farming, fishing, factory work, construction). They also deserve to be treated decently. If you go to a strip club and disrespect the workers you will possibly be kicked out, served with no trespassing, banned from multiple clubs. You can apprec…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:33 AM
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Younger generations are divorcing at half the rate as older generations. You put ten boomer married couples in a room who got married five years ago with ten millennial married couples who got married five years ago. The millennials will have half the number of divorces in the same time frame. Most zoomers are not married yet but those who are already have marriages outlasting the first marriages of boomers and Gen X back when they first got married. Happiness rates are higher too and infidelity…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:32 PM
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I'd rather be alone than with someone I'm not physically attracted to. Also I would dump anyone if I found out they were only with me for my personality and didn't find me attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:30 PM
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At this rate they might over the course of the next ten years build a new park in the midwest and abandon Florida altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:29 PM
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Unlawful evil too. The preponderance of sexual and physical abuse in traditional religious households cannot be overstated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:28 PM
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Exactly. I am attracted to a huge variety of guys physically, but even though I mostly date men and mostly date people in their twenties, not wanting a kid/not being able to date men with kids cuts that dating pool by sometimes as much as 70%-80%. Narrowed even more because I'm not looking for a relationship. And narrowed more because I won't date libs and conservatives and there is a limited pool of people on the left. I still found someone I am currently dating, but definitely most men are not…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:24 PM
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YouTube is a content platform not a source for accurate information about the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:43 PM
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One dude recently started dating my crush just because they happened to be put in the same training programs at work a It probably wasn't just because he was around. They're probably attracted to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:43 PM
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Oh true same here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:28 AM
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I wouldn't mind. It's normal to occasionally bring up loved ones lost. As long as they weren't openly comparing me to the deceased (who can compete with a tragically dead previous wife?) or wanting their portrait on the ceiling above a bed we shared I'm cool with it but probably not if it was a recent death (within the last year).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:27 AM
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I mean approximately 90% of humanity has the herp but limited-to-no symptoms. Definitely people need to inform a partner if they have it and discuss how to control transmission/breakouts but a lot of people would consider it 'not a bad [STI]' heh.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:20 AM
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Yeah exactly. I don't want to date someone because it's 'rational' even though rationality does come into the decision ultimately of me deciding to see them again or move forward with them in some way. Plenty of guys I was hot for who I didn't accept their advances due to logically considering that we were incompatible or it wasn't a good idea. But there still has to be sentiment, feeling, and desire there in the first place for it to even be a possibility that we go on a date or meet again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:17 AM
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It can be and is, but it needs to come organically. If you bring up sex tactlessly when you've only just exchanged names and favorite coffee orders it's (usually) a major faux pas. Obviously every dynamic is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:12 AM
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Below 5'5" it is fucking rough for dudes. Not for most of them. Not saying if they are otherwise identical to a guy who is 5'11"+ they will have the same dating life, but short dudes keep getting laid (at about the same age as tall dudes on average), keep dating and getting married (at almost the same rates as tall dudes). Most people are still out there dating and hooking up with people where there is mutual attraction involved. Short people keep getting married and having babies. Most dudes in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:05 AM
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You may want to read again, I said the 'low end of mid' not 'low'. Monitoring this is part of what I do for a living, Lift and Lurk is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:01 AM
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It's not an insular community with a lot of every hour or everyday regulars like this one is. I'm telling you even posted back to back some people only go there for like 30 minutes every few weeks and would never notice repeats.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 09:00 AM
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Leagues are entirely subjective and leagues are bullshit. Why would I deny myself the pleasure of a man's company just because my sister thinks I'm "out of his league"? The guy who swiped right on me thought I would never in a million years swipe back. The guy I swiped on I had no confidence would swipe back on me either. We both did. Because we both know 'leagues' are bullshit. We're both happier for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:45 AM
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Sure we do. But not from everyone. If a straight guy goes on Grindr he'll get LOTS of attention, doesn't mean it makes him feel great if he's not interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:43 AM
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Most humans, regardless of gender have areas of confidence and areas they are not confident. Also unwelcome male attention can sometimes make you feel awful not confident. If people start leering at me it makes me feel more self-conscious not more badass.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:42 AM
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Not all sexual encounters turn into relationships or take place within one. Even one third of marriages (US) begin with a single, solitary hookup. The sex they were having before even thinking there would be a second date was while they were both single, not necessarily exclusive. Two people consenting to have sex doesn't mean they're in a relationship in all cases. There are flings, friends with benefits, and all other manner of connections that might include sex but not a relationship and in w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:39 AM
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I agree to some extent. Why limit yourself to what you think is your 'league' when someone out of every 'level' might be attracted to you? Nobody wants to know you hit on them because you thought they would be the most desperate or the most down on their looks or the most insecure about their personality compared to other people. Nobody wants to be 'settled for'. Faking that you're really into someone to get a date is not only pathetic but incredibly unethical. Also you have no idea what someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:37 AM
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Dating for many isn't about making a 'bet'. It's about finding someone compatible who interests you in a way 'just a friend' would not. I'm not going to fake enjoying someone I don't find desirable because I think it 'improves my chances'. Plenty of people can still be dumped and cheated on by someone they 'settled for'. No date or partner of mine will ever feel like they were just a 'safe option', they'll feel wanted and desired and that feeling will be true and accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:33 AM
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That's not true. It's actually a higher percentage of men who cheat than women (thought not by much!) even though women tend to have more offers and opportunities to. 87% of women never cheat and approximately 80% of men never do. In other words a vast majority. Also infidelity declines in each generation (lowest currently among millennials and zoomers) and the gender gap continues to close as well. Don't get me wrong, 1 out of 5 and 1 out of 6 odds of someone cheating aren't great, but it stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:27 AM
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I only date people I find hot. But you or some other random people might find some of them ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 08:15 AM
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Those are rookie numbers, gotta get those numbers up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:08 AM
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First step: Join the FBI or CIA
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:07 AM
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No even among smaller streamers and podcasters those numbers are on the low end of mid for YouTube.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:03 AM
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It's not one of the most popular podcasts though... not by any metric.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:01 AM
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I wouldn't date someone I felt meh about. My tastes don't always align with convention but I have to find someone personally not in order to feel 'raw physical passion'. Someone who was not conventionally attractive Some of the people I am attracted to the most aren't necessarily conventionally attractive but they are incredibly hot to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:01 AM
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Also a reminder. One person in the relationship has to be smaller to make sex practical. Not true at all. You just have different positions that will work better. Even among two fat people it's rare that they are so obese they can't find a way to fuck. Sweating, a feeling of heaviness, and friction happen when you're both thin too. In fact, if you're not sweating you might not be doing it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:58 AM
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Fat women do not find fat men attractive. No, some fat women very much do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:56 AM
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There is no 'objectively' a 4. Even people in this subreddit who are all black pill or all blue pill or all red pill or no pill can't agree on if famous Hollywood starlets are 4s or 9s. 4s get into relationships all the time. Usually at the start there is mutual physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:55 AM
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A dick getting hard isn't necessarily indication of arousal anyway. Sometimes it just happens. Sometimes it happens to men out of fear. Sometimes out of accidental non sexual contact. Sometimes out of physical contact with someone they aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:53 AM
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Cant use famous people Sure you can. Most of them had luck with women before they were famous and before their talents were refined. Some of them didn't have any nepo baby privilege and some didn't come from wealthy families. They had women before they became celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:51 AM
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Celebrities are essentially outliers by definition. They were popular with women before they were celebrities, before they had clout, before they had grown into confidence in their crafts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:50 AM
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If you're 5'5" you'll still be taller than the average woman in the US. Even if she wants you to be taller and wear heels there are plenty of women 5'3" and shorter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:43 AM
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Well one in three marriages begins with casual sex and most men get married, and most of them get married in their late twenties or early thirties (yes even in younger generations).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:42 AM
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Men's and women's voices tend to get higher pitched when they are relaxed and happy, not deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:33 AM
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I don't think I could date anyone who works regularly in the fishing industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:32 AM
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Rami Malek.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:31 AM
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It would depend entirely on the reason. Is he a virgin because he doesn't know how to communicate interest even if I initiate? Probably be a dealbreaker as I require regularly shown interest in me or I feel like I'm harassing someone and can't get turned on. Is he a virgin because he's religious and waiting until marriage? Dealbreaker as I'm not getting married. Is it one of a thousand other reasons where he can communicate feelings and express desire but just has had bad luck or been focusing m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:26 AM
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Remind yourself that their appearance gives them advantages but it also gives them disadvantages. They may have to question people's motives regularly or feel like imposters. They could be bright, capable, efficient at work, and too many will think they just got that promotion because they are pretty. They may have people fall in love with them just because of their beauty and not actually like their personality... by the time their beauty starts to fade, they've lost the love of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:24 AM
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97% of women on OF don't even make enough to pay for a few streaming media subscriptions each month much less make a lucrative career out of it or who can survive on it alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:22 AM
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It's empowering to do what you want with your body (in many cases). The empowerment is not the nudity, it's making the choice when, where, and how to show your body. Same with a headscarf. It's not about it being empowering to wear it or empowering not to wear it. It's about it being empowering to have the unfettered choice to do what you want with your garments and your hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:22 AM
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Most people there don't spend enough time on Reddit to be able to recognize duplicates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:17 AM
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And taxes also pay for housing stipends and enlisting bonuses like sports cars in the military even though people in the forces get paid an income and these benefits mostly pay for men. It's not a related argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:16 AM
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No I cannot even entertain the idea of dating someone I'm not physically attracted to and have sexual chemistry and compatibility with. Nor would I. It would be pretending I wanted them when I didn't and that's just cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 06:02 AM
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Not just actually being assaulted but it's a very real fear even for those who have never had it happen. In a controlled scenario with a consented-to and consenting partner, it not only can replace a bad memory horrific event with positive consensual but it can make fear getting assaulted feel less out of control and have less power to it. Fundamentally though, nobody of course actually wants to be raped. These fantasies stimulate one in the same way a roller coaster tricks your body into feelin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:58 AM
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The weather was perfect. The meal not so much. But the experience and the company was absolutely the most memorable and the most enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:57 AM
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Thank you for that! The study within talks about dopamine levels in romantic relationships generally but isn't specifically denying what I speculated. That being said, even if it confirmed the honeymoon phase ends for most that doesn't mean an individual cannot experience it long-term. With the right person it doesn't have to. Some couples do stay starry-eyed and lusty and excited about each other even after decades, many of the healthiest maintain that "feel". And that's the kind of connection …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:56 AM
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Nobody should rely on advice from Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:46 AM
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Most people date and are only willing to date within four years of their age regardless of gender, it's not just a 'girls on PPD' thing. That being said, nobody should consider the demographic of active users on here to be indicative of any broad trend. It's a very specific demographic (for the most part).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:45 AM
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