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MR Blogs/VlogsRonnieLibra/r/MensRights27/05/14 09:39 PM
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I have a hard time believing some of these answers that some of these guys are above 50 + I have had a lot of women in my life, more than I can count, many of them really attractive to the point where even porn got boring to me, because I knew I was having sex with more attractive women. I guess what I'm saying is, it's actually been a very positive experience in the sense that it causes you to relax, you get to live out a lot of fantasies and have beautiful women in your life. Some stick around…
/r/seduction10/06/23 10:38 PM
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Definitely a good portion from my experience.
/r/seduction01/06/23 06:44 AM
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Your generation is having less sex than any time in history, so no, approach for you nerds is not normal, and reading this subreddit is depressing because it's filled with a bunch of virgins trying to teach other men how to have sex, which just perpetuates the cycle of a bunch of you guys not getting laid, not getting women in your life, not wifing up, those kind of things... I wish I could change it, but this subreddit is also filled with those same sexless nerds up voting all the most terrible…
/r/seduction31/05/23 10:22 PM
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When you say, "Faking it" I'm assuming you're practicing game related material. Can you tell me what you've been studying and practicing? A lot of times people are using garbage material by fake coaches who aren't any better off than the people who are going to them for help. Then the guys who study them don't get results and blame themselves when really they are just listening to frauds and sheisters.
/r/seduction20/05/22 03:07 PM
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Oh I forgot, the community died a long time ago and it's sort of a shadow of its former self. Low self esteem
/r/seduction12/05/22 10:09 PM
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LSE girls do. Quality girls will next you ASAP. But lucky for you we live in an age of a lot of crazy LSE girls.
/r/seduction12/05/22 09:57 PM
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Bring an If book... WAY BETTER. https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/if-questions-for-the-game-of-life_evelyn-mcfarlane_james-saywell/249307/item/565397/?gclid=Cj0KCQjw1N2TBhCOARIsAGVHQc7jNL_4Xy3CrvgTXgEX3EQNlBDOga9AQ72YtV-yG39RF2kfpuJ1A2waAh2fEALw_wcB#idiq=565397&edition=2270005
/r/seduction09/05/22 02:47 AM
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Yeah okay the only one in this contest is you. I don't really care. You gave bad advice and I just wanted to illustrate it for other people, you're not important.
/r/seduction09/05/22 02:44 AM
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I don't think that talking about having sex with a lot of different women in a group about learning how to have sex with a lot of different women is actually considered gloating. But it's becoming more and more evident with each comment that you make, that you're not really a qualified individual to be talking about this topic, it even makes you uncomfortable. Do you go to the gym that you work out at, while you're avoiding being social and learning how to talk to women, and when people at the g…
/r/seduction09/05/22 02:40 AM
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No we're not the same, I have had sex with a lot of amazingly attractive women and I'm pretty sure you haven't.
/r/seduction09/05/22 02:36 AM
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Why don't you just warm up all the time meaning, taking interest in the people and activities and things going on around you and start to be that social guy. If you go to get your coffee at a coffee shop, which if you drink coffee you should, never drink it at home because there's nobody else there to talk to, talk to the people online in front of you, behind you, compliment someone on their shoes, it doesn't matter. Learn to be that guy who finds life interesting, and the people around you as w…
/r/seduction09/05/22 02:28 AM
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Man I wish I still had my old articles. You're basically describing what I used to call goal substitution and avoidance. You go out of your way to do activities that have nothing to do with practicing or accomplishing the goal that you want to get better at, and instead pick easier less stressful substitutes that make you still feel like you're gaining headway when really you're just avoiding the actual activity of practicing getting better at meeting women due to the fear of rejection that come…
/r/seduction09/05/22 02:25 AM
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17 Exactly 17 approaches. If anybody says any other number than 17 they're full of shit! Seriously though, there's no magic number. Everyone is going to be different everyone is going to progress differently, some people will pick this stuff up right away, some guys are good looking and all they need is some confidence, other guys average looking and they're going to have to put in more work into their wheelhouse to get results, some people have natural charisma that they need to unlock, other p…
/r/seduction03/05/22 04:40 PM
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Whatever happened to outcome independence and enjoying the process? When I was gaming I LOVED daygame. I pulled a lot of my favorite girls from daygame by myself. I've been rejected in pretty much every way you can imagine... Feminists in my face, Kicked out of stores, coffeeshops, Cops called by beta white knights, and that's not even the normal approaches where I didn't get laid or even a date. But I've also done things like had a girl over too my place from rolling down my window and talking …
/r/seduction02/05/22 03:56 PM
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What's an SMV? Is that like a 4 Wheeler or something? What does hair have to do with riding off-road vehicles?
/r/seduction30/04/22 12:01 AM
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You're shooting too low. Aim for women that you're actually attracted to instead of settling for the ones that you think you can get without much of a challenge. Your problem is common with guys who are going for the low hanging fruit because you're actually afraid of getting rejected by the women that are actually attractive to you.
/r/seduction17/06/21 08:51 PM
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Thanks. is it really apprehension or fear though? Or is it really just a signal that people have misinterpreted because they weren't told or taught the proper way. I remember when I used to play competitive hockey growing up, and as far back as I can remember in my earliest games, my father would say, you feel that feeling you have right now? It's called the butterflies. It means that your body is doing its best. Go get em! Just imagine if we had a thousand articles teaching guys that that signa…
/r/seduction25/09/19 08:03 PM
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You guys teaching other guys that they are afraid of women are the problem 😔. Fear of approach or Approach Anxiety is a myth created by Dorks who were never in competition. The entire concept causes more harm than good by creating in guys minds a concept of having a giant Fear Based problem that they need to OVERCOME that they probably didn't think they ever had until learning about it from pickup nerds. Teach guys the right way from the get go and they won't have this problem - https://youtu.be…
/r/seduction25/09/19 11:57 AM
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https://youtu.be/QCxXq6LBlCc - Full class.
/r/seduction25/09/19 11:52 AM
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Do you guys talk about normal shit at all? Like stuff not related to class or school? If you do you could always slide in somewhere... You to her: "So check this out... My buddy is in a class with girl who thinks is absolutely adorable. Thing is, he doesn't want to ask her to hang out or get her number or anything cause it’s in the beginning of the semester and he feels like if he fucks up it’ll be awkward throughout the whole semester. So he was thinking about waiting towards like the last 2 we…
/r/seduction25/09/19 11:46 AM
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ThrowawayPUA You're one of the people I had in mind when I posted this... You fucking pussy fraud.
/r/seduction22/06/15 01:03 AM
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Let me see if I can find it.. I write too much... ;)
/r/seduction23/05/15 01:59 AM
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Something else on my blog?
/r/seduction22/05/15 11:41 PM
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HA! Ya - it can be a challenge.
/r/seduction14/03/15 02:57 AM
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This - but it's two hours. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGpwkM2IzyQ ;)
/r/seduction03/03/15 06:51 PM
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Man thanks. I appreciate the feedback.
/r/seduction04/02/15 04:47 AM
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Thanks, homes. If my talks/podcasts or whatever go on for an hour or more I don't want fluff bullshit. I want to make sure guys are getting value or whatever from the entire talk. Appreciate your feedback.
/r/seduction15/01/15 11:43 PM
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Exactly. But the good news is if you can get good at it, and you can start to apply in in conversations, you can pick out words girls use and basically riff whole conversations off of them. The sweet spot is when you can think of actual situations or whatever in your own life and make the connection during conversations.
/r/seduction12/01/15 05:21 PM
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Ok I think you're just not at a level yet where you can grasp the concept. I feel like I can explain it to you until I'm blue in the face and you still wont get it, and keep trying to frame it as, "I used to..." as if that means, "hey, I'm more experiened blah blah blah," when it seems to me you are at a very basic level. You're sort of resorting to putting your spin on my thoughts to try and force some sort of point instead of taking what I said at face value. Most of the things you are questio…
/r/seduction08/01/15 08:10 PM
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I'm not saying INSTEAD of. I'm saying don't RELY ON. If that makes sense. I'm saying don't be or hard headed (not you - anyone) about conversations that if you sit there and ask her questions, and don't get the kind of responses you want from her, that you should just be like, "Ahhh. She's boring - time to move on!" because to me that's all irrelevant if you are being a cool, fun guy - putting your best self forward, not in some try hard way to show off, but because you enjoy your life and assum…
/r/seduction08/01/15 08:05 PM
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You too man. Glad this made sense to you! I appreciate the reply.
/r/seduction08/01/15 08:02 PM
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You guys still have this beginner mindset about using everything as a tool. I never said "Perpetuate that you are interesting" or "contrive to be interesting" or "convince her you are interesting" or "fake being interesting so she thinks you live an interesting life." Actually what I am saying is what you just said you are doing. If you're a chill, introverted, beach bum vegetarian guy, trust me - I know you are on about all day that part of yourself. Like I could look at you and tell that's EXA…
/r/seduction08/01/15 03:33 PM
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I get what you're saying. I never said TRY. I said, again - BE. It's not hard. Actually it's EASIER than a classic model of a date. I actually teach it and I could make a post filled with screenshots of emails, texts, and messages sent to me or about me where guys are having as many women in their lives as they want. So my experience as a coach and your experience are completely different. You're coming from the mindset of failure and I am teaching from the success mindset. But that's ok. A lot …
/r/seduction08/01/15 03:19 PM
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Here's my problem with your comment. I don't think you read my post at all... I'm not sure in there where I said, "Talk and talk and talk and talk." Try reading it again without your own filter running translating it into problems you have and trying to impose them on my post. However, that being said, if Interview style works for you, then you should maybe write out a post about it, because in my experience, and the experience of guys and girls I know, Interview style is super boring, ineffecti…
/r/seduction08/01/15 02:48 AM
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Comparing this group and Masf is like comparing people who play World of Warcraft to Gladiators. Masf was WAY MORE success driven and oriented, and less about the feel good, koombiya, its OK to not succeed (or reframing lack of success as success) blah blah that permeates so many posts on this sub. Mark Manson as he is now would have been laughed off masf or ripped apart.
/r/seduction07/01/15 10:17 PM
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So well said... Even if you do prefer Manson over the real (old school) style of game. Sure. No one can pick up every single girl, but that should be the measure of success, not this nonsensical Mark Manson, "If she doesn't like me its REALLY just me screening her out." Keyboard Jockey reframe.
/r/seduction07/01/15 10:11 PM
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Well you did ask for advanced... ;) Sorry I didn't get the "Don't go SUPER advanced!! memo." ;P All in all I've been in that damn bar close to probably about a dozen times. So why would it be weird or whatever for you to take another girl there? And it looks to me like you could use a study up on how preselection works. Me and some of the best guys I know from back in the day used to say, "Preselection... Preselection... Preselection..." Like I tell people I KNOW I have a chick in the bag when s…
/r/seduction01/01/15 09:38 PM
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How does this have like only 67% upvote? I have no idea how some of the guys in this sub upvote what they do and downvote what they do.. It's like Bizzarro world in here. Zan is a GREAT teacher. One of the best speakers in this game as well as an OG. People love guys like Mark Manson who pretty much trying to be a watered down version of Zan missing all the key elements Zan teaches, and yet this only has 2/3s of an upvote and only 25 positive? How?
/r/seduction01/01/15 09:23 PM
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Preselection. Grab a date ( a different chick) make sure she is cute, then go to that bar and have a drink while your bartender friend is working. Just enjoy yourself with your date. Don't pay any more attention to the bartender chick than you normally would, actually less - BUT NOT TRY-HARD Less - just the normal amount you would whilte with a chick you would actually like (hopefully like the date you brought. You're not trying to SHOW off, you're just there to have a drink and be normal.) In f…
/r/seduction01/01/15 09:00 PM
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Oh the approach too... That's another thing altogether. But lucky you I did just do a podcast about this recently. Check it: http://youtu.be/RWYwdRfatMk
/r/seduction01/01/15 04:15 AM
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Escalation is attractive. Use the below in THIS order. First READ these 2 articles by 60 to get your head in the right place: http://www.60yearsofchallenge.com/signs-a-girl-likes-you/ - Escalation is attractive. http://librachronicles.wordpress.com/2014/10/21/risk-creepy-by-60yearsofchallenge/ - Risk Creepy Then let's give you a mini course: Cap Jack posted Strawberry fields recently. That you can use ANYTIME during the conversation to open the door to escalation. It's the 4 sexual framing video…
/r/seduction01/01/15 04:02 AM
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A condor flies a thousand miles. How can a sparrow understand his aspirations?
/r/seduction30/12/14 05:48 PM
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I love how community guys always need to reframe just because it's like, "Hey I got this cool skill! I'm gonna use it online with other guys..." ;) Anyway I'll still bite. Misleading meaning 90% of these videos you see online are either staged, flash game, or just bad game. What do we see in most of them? Guys getting phone numbers. That is something I actually try to teach guys to go right past. Phone numbers are a means to an end. They are a SMALL step in a seduction and should be incidental. …
/r/seduction30/12/14 04:32 AM
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Don't do infield videos. I think they're misleading as well as - well, I play the game for real. I don't want my face out there. When I say "for real" there are bars/clubs which the owners/managers/staff treat me like VIPs, there are places (other than bars/clubs) I go where normal people give me lots of respect. People remember me Trust me. I make an impact. I really don't want my face out there on some videos about picking up chicks, especially when word gets around fast in some of the places …
/r/seduction30/12/14 01:40 AM
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I'm only gonna mention my 2 sense because Bobby told me he mentioned me in here. All Bootcamps are not created equal. I think a majority of them pretty much mimic each other, and they kind of have to. There's only so much you can do with someone in field, but the DIFFERENCE is, experience, and how you coach. Many of the systems teach approach, approach, approach. So guys are right when they say that is a limited "approach". ;) The thing is it all depends on the person - what and how they should …
/r/seduction29/12/14 11:41 PM
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LOL I like how telling people to think outside the box and be your own man is so threatening to guys who like Mark Manson...
/r/seduction28/12/14 10:20 PM
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What else did i say?? There was more. youre missing the key points i made
/r/seduction28/12/14 01:03 AM
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Posted in this thread, my man.
/r/seduction27/12/14 08:32 PM
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No I was completely unaware that the Mark Manson bomb had been dropped here, but I can see by the guys smashing their downvotes on my comment it must have... Well, it's too bad. But trust me, the cream always rises to the top. All Mark Manson does is act like a filter to keep AFCs that way forever. Leaves more women for the rest of us .. ;)
/r/seduction27/12/14 07:55 PM
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he frames everything is in a way that it would resonate with the average redditer AFC Actually all AFCs but ya. Like he's saying - "you can be an AFC forever, and still have great women in your life! just be yourself MORE than you were before." It really appeals to the White Knight side of guys that so many guys, even me when I started, have a hard time letting go.
/r/seduction27/12/14 07:50 PM
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lol
/r/seduction27/12/14 07:45 PM
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No - then the community would stop existing because guys would all be out with an abundance of women in their lives ;) And would that be such a bad thing if all these guys became champions?
/r/seduction27/12/14 07:19 PM
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And if you looked at the rest of the comments in this thread you might discover, not only did I write WHY I think people should stay away from Mark Manson, but I also wrote a pretty detailed list of what I do recommend. The thing is, you guys need to learn to broaden your mind and think outside the box, instead of just running with the pack. I want guys to succeed, but if they are getting so emotional that they get caught up in one comment - how in the fuck are these guys ever going to learn to …
/r/seduction27/12/14 07:02 PM
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It's in another comment in this thread . :) I don't care about downvotes. I care about helping guys succeed. 95% of guys in this game fail. Those same guys may downvote me. If I can help 1 guy get good I have done my job.
/r/seduction27/12/14 05:43 PM
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PS - Caveat. Learn to Go Direct FIRST before indirect. You don't need a class on it. Just go out for a week or two and ONLY approach girls saying you like them and why, and then when you get a little more comfortable going for their numbers/timebridging and following up for dates. Do that to get comfortable pulling the trigger, not because it's some magical game. Direct is very limited, but guys MUST learn direct before they can start using more finesse based indirect. Then start adding elements…
/r/seduction27/12/14 05:22 PM
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BASICS to be studied: 1: David DeAngelo - Double Your Dating Advanced (audio or video): Why? Because it not only goes over the concepts of game, but it talks about why these things work the way they do from a biological and psychological level. The other bonus is, that it includes many speakers in the community towards the end so you can get a crash course in the different schools of thought in the community and help decide a path for you to go down. 2: Venusian Arts (ebook): Revelations - This …
/r/seduction27/12/14 05:04 PM
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Look, you're starting from scratch. Unfortunately what you need to learn very fast is many guys out there are blind leading the blind. I coach professionally, and I have been in game for a decade. Let me just tell you straight up. MARK MANSON is shit! TERRIBLE! I know some guy said it and got a few likes, but again, blind leading the blind. Guys, for some reason, LOVE Mark Manson's shit but these guys all have something in common, they aren't getting laid or having much success with women - This…
/r/seduction27/12/14 04:59 PM
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WORST ADVICE EVER. STAY AWAY from MARK MANSON.
/r/seduction27/12/14 04:46 PM
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Hey man, we already have a VERY active group... :) I live in Chicago and we have a lot of guys going out all the time and winging. https://www.facebook.com/groups/MidwestLair/ Also we have a pretty big talk coming up Jan 3rd - check it out.
/r/seduction26/12/14 06:16 AM
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http://librachronicles.wordpress.com/?s=sonics&x=0&y=0 That is a search query from my blog. Enjoy
/r/seduction20/12/14 06:19 PM
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Ya, your brain is like a muscle. When you start talking to people you will develop it into a social muscle. So the more you go talk to people the easier and more natural it will begin to feel. I am an introvert by nature, but NO ONE who met me would ever agree. As a matter of fact when I tell people I am the shy/introverted type they usually laugh and think I'm joking. This is developed. It takes time and practice.
/r/seduction20/12/14 06:17 PM
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You gotta understand the mindselt Sonics had, and it will take some time to implement. He met a bunch of guys he called, "Super-Naturals." These were guys who never studied game, and he said went beyond what most guys considered naturals. The whole slap a girls ass thing would be like, guys in a club - naturals having fun for themselves. I don't necessarily even do that, but it's basically a state pump. However, if I am flirting with a chick, or I am on a date and things are stalling out - well,…
/r/seduction08/12/14 04:06 AM
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swinggcat audio "Foundations..."
/r/seduction06/12/14 07:42 AM
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yes - thats how you overcome your shy "ego". You're not shy - your ego is and has made you believe it's you..
/r/seduction06/12/14 07:41 AM
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You're welcome to you cats. Glad to be of assistance. Just know that this is probably #1 in bootcamps next to Approach Anxiety but really not knowing what to say is just an EXTENSION of AA and causes false ejecting. Remember what Style said back in the day. When you think an interaction has dried up or you think it's over, push it like 10% or 20% more so you can learn something/improve your skills.
/r/seduction06/12/14 12:30 AM
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Asked and Answered: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/2odwz0/the_i_dont_know_what_to_say_dilemma_or_im_boring/
/r/seduction05/12/14 06:52 PM
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How about I work harder in your mouth... ? No?
/r/seduction30/11/14 01:00 AM
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Haha, good to see you trying this out. ;)
/r/seduction29/11/14 06:53 AM
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hey man. Check it. We have a midwest wingman group with guys in Ann Arbor on FB. https://www.facebook.com/groups/828847863793677/
/r/seduction15/10/14 07:21 AM
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Says the guy stalking me around reddit. Projection much?
/r/seduction24/09/14 10:57 PM
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So that you'll stalk me on reddit... ;)
/r/seduction24/09/14 06:05 PM
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Good advice. Check this scene out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tGL1wH46u8 Then practice it in the field until it flows like butter.
/r/seduction23/09/14 10:30 PM
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Thanks for the props man. Great points. When we let go of wanting/needing women (and yet keep our INTENT strong) that's when the magic happens.
/r/seduction20/09/14 06:36 PM
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Hey man. Glad to be of assistance. If you want to tweak the routine for effectiveness once you create it let me know.
/r/seduction19/09/14 11:44 PM
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TL;DR - This is AWESOME advice.. ;) One of the most common things new guys deal with. Lucky for you I've helped tons of guys with this already. You do everything I tell you, and you'll be fine as wine... 1 - Basic Basic - Random Noun Generation Drill - I won't even edit this homework exercise I give guys straight from my bootcamp. http://www.desiquintans.com/noungenerator.php - This is to help you be able to come up with conversational topics on the fly - to avoid running out of things to say. D…
/r/seduction19/09/14 05:12 PM
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Thanks man. That's why I do what I do. :) People who work with me and take my bootcamp (I coach in Chicago and the surrounding states) say I have a gift for seeing right into them. I don't know if that's true but I just know that having dealt with myself and a whole fuckload of stuff in the past, it's a little easy to see the shit you guys ALREADY know but just need someone to point out. So I like to hear that I helped someone, and I hope you can get that shit handled, because sometimes it's tho…
/r/seduction15/09/14 03:32 AM
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Magic in the language, man. If that was the case he would have said THAT but he said what he said which, to me, seems more like an accurate statement. Maybe he's had that fear so embedded he doesn't even realize it's there. Maybe that spilled out subconsciously when he wrote. Maybe he's had that fear so long that he's came up with creative ways to mask it as "being selective" or "just wanting to keep things casual". The words people use are they key.
/r/seduction14/09/14 05:21 PM
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"but whenever a casual relationship turns into a dating relationship, it usually falls apart for me." This is the key to your entire post. This is the 1 issue out of all of this you need to both confront and get a handle on. To me it doesn't sound like you are REALLY interested in keeping this a "JUST" sexual relationship, it sounds more like you are AFRAID that if you try to make it more you will lose this girl - So you are willing to settle for less than you AND her both want for fear of that …
/r/seduction14/09/14 08:16 AM
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This is what every guy in the community secretly wants, ONCE they get over overcompensating for their anger (some of the "redpill" guys) towards women. The BEST of the best I know have gotten married or have Long Term (5 years or more) relationships, but USUALLY it happens after they have fucked a lot of women. The guys who are still new, or haven't really had a lot of sex, usually frown on shit like this, but don't let it get you down. They're still being "programmed" and part of the growing pe…
/r/seduction13/09/14 09:56 PM
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I would say get a big Van, paint on the side of it, "Recreational Activities for Progressive Education" highlighting the first letter of each of the capitalized words in big red letters and then park out in front of your school with black sunglasses on. Good luck!
/r/seduction13/09/14 06:55 PM
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I read this and was gonna say the same thing. It's also WHERE you put your focus. ENJOY the process, don't focus on failure. Penicillin was a fuckup, so get out there and make mistakes. Build momentum by going out regularly, and repeating the same thing you just did (so to speak) and each night will build momentum for the next time, to the next, then to the next week, to the next month, etc etc and down the road you will look back and be like, "Fuck! but I only got a blowjob tonight and she swal…
/r/seduction13/09/14 06:39 PM
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Ha, if you want basics just go for "David DeAngelo's advanced series". Most of the stuff you see in things like the Tao of Badass are just rehashed from other programs. For instance, that Triangle Kiss - TOTALLY from David DeAngelos program.
/r/seduction13/09/14 06:33 PM
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That's not always the case. Don't buy into that community bullshit reframe that speaking your mind and having an opinion is Always trolling, kjing, hate or computer tough guy shit. We have a responsibility to educate, inform and keep people on a POSITIVE path even if sometimes that means laying down a little tough love. Many times the guys talking out of their ass are the guys who try to use Ad-Hominem attacks and strawman nonsense instead of backing up their stuff with experience and facts. Ins…
/r/seduction13/09/14 06:28 PM
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For your consideration 2 examples. There was a guy at a bar I used to go to in my AFC days called "Angel". I don't know if he was really named that or not. He kinda dressed like a cowboy, Neil Young type guy. He would routinely be seen chilling with girls who were in their 20s. I assume he was a natural. 60 may be late, but getting out there is probably going to be more fun and better than sitting around being old and not doing shit. And then there's this guy: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/vi…
/r/TheRedPill13/09/14 03:24 AM
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Cool, man. Gad you like it. I think many of the best elements in this game are where we either grab on to spontaneity or we do things that come across with an element of spontaneity in them.
/r/seduction12/09/14 01:29 AM
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Like I said, that's all fine and dandy on paper, it sounds great in a "Tony Robbins" type way, but when it come to women there will ALWAYS be a little battle going on when it comes to validation, microcalibration, or whatever you want to call it. This is BASIC push/pull. This is like the meat and potatoes of pickup and seduction. Any and every guy I know who is good with women, whether or not they even Study "game", does this on some level. And like I said, girls do it too. You're stuck on think…
/r/seduction07/09/14 12:25 PM
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I like this comment so much I not only made a meme out of it, I posted it on my twitter account. https://twitter.com/LibraChronicles/status/508322802902900737/photo/1
/r/TheRedPill06/09/14 06:37 PM
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Exactly!
/r/seduction06/09/14 06:24 PM
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I'm exactly on point. you're just not getting it. I don't know if that's due to lack of understanding or you're just not choosing to for the sake of debate.
/r/seduction06/09/14 09:22 AM
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I'll answer this without peter - no need. You're talking in IDEALS. It all sounds nice on paper but the REALITY is, that there will ALWAYS be a balancing act going on in a relationship between a guy and a girl. The old saying goes, that one person in the relationship always is MORE in love than the other person is. That is absolutely true. The BALANCING ACT, one person and the other person NOT being equal, is what keep the relationship alive. And, fortunately for us men, it is OUR job to LEAD, n…
/r/seduction06/09/14 08:34 AM
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Letting peter post from my account. He says: It's not about making a girl insecure and needy. There's a big difference between that, and having a healthy male/female dynamic in a relationship. That healthy dynamic is as such: A woman who is in to a man wants to be loved/accepted and tries to please her man, a man who is in to a woman is pleased with his woman. If the commenter likes sassy women, then he should tell his woman "I love how sassy you are, most girls don't inspire me like you do." Va…
/r/seduction06/09/14 01:50 AM
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lol cool!
/r/seduction05/09/14 09:33 PM
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Ya, me neither. I have been to them in many cities where I lived. Just this one was weird.
/r/seduction22/07/14 08:14 PM
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I don't want to self advertise and since I run a bootcamp you can take or leave what I am about to say. If I "self promote" it is only for example, not because I am trying to advertise my shit. I wont even put in a link. I do want to say, bootcamps can be great or they can be shit. It depends on what you're looking for. I teach a kickass, state of the art bootcamp that is nothing like anyone else out there teaches by far. The way I teach, my students end up dating and having sex with multiple wo…
/r/seduction03/06/14 10:07 PM
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I'll be honest. His trials and tribulations are pretty fucking normal to me. I went through a lot of the same shit he did. But I got over it. I made it my life's goal to change for the better and it is an ongoing process to this day. The difference - where he felt entitled and his lack there of made him more and more jaded as to what he felt he was entitled to, I made a decision to change, to EARN the things I felt entitled to, and to LET GO of, "Ohhh poor me, life is soooo mean to me. I'm such …
/r/MensRights28/05/14 12:47 AM
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Someone could have. Himself. Society these days is tending to create a "victim" mentality. People these days want to blame everyone else for their problems instead of trying to realize life is a way to GROW and LEARN - to use our difficulties as challenges to make ourselves better people.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 10:17 PM
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But being confident is. That's where the confusion lies. These "assholes" that get ladies are not getting them because they are assholes, it's because their assholeish tenancies make them seem confident, and that's what women tend to go for.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 10:15 PM
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Just like anything there is good and bad. I agree, there's a lot of crappy pua advice out there, especially with the advent of Mass Marketers getting into the scene. But there is a lot of GREAT stuff out there to improve men as well. Just like one of my favorite genres of music, House - a LOT of it is terrible, but those tracks or DJs that can lay down some amazing beats! yeaaaa...
/r/MensRights27/05/14 09:52 PM
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Look - I'll say this again for the 3rd or 4th time in a row. Pay attention or don't. That's up to you. I can tell you how to improve. You can either listen or be so focused on trying to present yourself in a certain way to the people reading that you miss, again, what I'm telling you. However, another guy may come along and benefit from what I have to say so I'll say it anyway. You can either focus your energy on Impressing other guys, which is a substitution MANY MANY guys take in this game bec…
/r/seduction10/04/13 08:44 PM
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Dude, look at how you're acting. You wouldn't feel the need to defend yourself if you knew, deep down in your heart, that you were being real with people. You were all Mr Cool when you wrote your big long, "I don't need this but I'm here anyway," post and now you're all explain, explain, explain, qualify, qualify, qualify. Like I said, it's one thing to pretend you are living a life of abundance on the computer screen, but it's another thing to ACTUALLY BE THAT GUY. Your very ACTIONS are telling…
/r/seduction10/04/13 06:25 PM
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Did you get that from a song or something? Look man, it's simple. Be the real you. That's all. Don't worry about impressing people and just be real with people.
/r/seduction10/04/13 12:33 PM
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As a matter of fact, i'm willing to bet what happened to this board is the SAME thing that happened to alt.seduction.fast back in the day and forced them to create MODERATED.Alt.Seduction.Fast
/r/seduction10/04/13 05:57 AM
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No need to get defensive man, half your post was about how great everything is for you and how you're not really here for anything but you "might" be able to pick up a few tips here and there. Just be real man. You don't score points by trying to impress people on an anonymous computer forum.
/r/seduction10/04/13 12:40 AM
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I like when guys say, "I'm not here to because I NEED THIS. I know everyone else does but I'm already doing great. I just came here and spend my energy reading and posting for no reason." Back in the day we used to call this Keyboard Jockey. Just admit it, dude. You came here for the same reason everyone else did, because you're not having a fulfilling sex life with abundance and you are trying to fix it. This pretending you have it figured out is as old as this community. Sorry but guys who are…
/r/seduction09/04/13 11:05 PM
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True story. The OP is irrelevant to the purpose of this sub.
/r/seduction09/04/13 10:56 PM
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True
/r/seduction09/04/13 10:55 PM
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I'm willing to bet you're not having much sex.
/r/seduction09/04/13 10:52 PM
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this post was submitted on 08 Apr 2013 176 points (79% like it) 235 up votes 59 down votes Proves that 79% of the guys that voted on this thread are not having sex or if they are, settling for "low hanging fruit" not abundance. Or rather 235 guys are not having sex etc. Go figure. Not that there's anything wrong with that (if guys are seriously trying to improve themselves), but posts like this are hijacking guys and taking them off the right path. All because some guy wants to feel like other p…
/r/seduction09/04/13 10:48 PM
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True Story
/r/seduction09/04/13 09:33 PM
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Let's look at this from a perspective of "back in the day". Back in the day this community, asf then masf, was built around 1 thing - Learning how to seduce women. It was STARTED by Ross Jeffries. Alt.Seduction.Fast = Learn how to seduce women quickly or Speed Seduction Moderated.Alt.Seduction.Fast = Learn how to get laid fast and articles like this OP would be deleted or unapologetically scrapped. Then a bunch of other guys got on board like Mystery and co and they talked about DIFFERENT ways t…
/r/seduction09/04/13 08:26 PM
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Jesus. The way of the community has gone down hill since it's inception. IT IS ABOUT GETTING LAID.
/r/seduction09/04/13 08:13 PM
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Ha! I kinda think GSP had his day and now it's time for someone to knock him off his pedestal, can't wait to see Diaz do it. Even GSP knows Diaz is the guy who could do it.
/r/seduction12/03/13 10:21 PM
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Simple Pickup - FAIL.. They're not even getting laid. The guys talking about getting mixed results are right. Some girls respond to text more, some respond to calling more. It's that simple. The best way is to rotate back and forth with girls. Also yes to the guys saying it's the ATTRACTION and Connection you build BEFORE you get the number that is going to make a difference. These new-breed pick up wannabe gurus like Simple Pickup are teaching garbage. Getting a number, #closes, Get the Number,…
/r/seduction01/03/13 10:06 PM
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Old news, but it's true. I wrote a post somewhere else about this exact thing. Some of these girls you're like, "Holy shit? Out of all the sets I did this chick was the LAST ONE I thought I would be banging." You almost never know. Sometimes the short sets are the best. A good first impression and leaving her wanting more can be a hell of a drug. ;)
/r/seduction01/03/13 07:16 PM
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You mean like the guys standing around in the bar holding a beer not talking to anyone? It's a decent start but it's definitely not going to get you into any interactions. If you mean once you're in an interaction, I mean, yes, but this is old news. Probably something taught by almost every pick up system out there. We call this being Unreactive and non-approval seeking. I can definitely see how this is good advice for guys starting out, who know very little about the game though. Exuding mascul…
/r/seduction01/03/13 05:08 AM
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I guess a lot of you guys are missing the point to this exercise. It's meant to help you think. To help you to FEEL natural and think naturally for yourself. It's not a "victim" mentality we are looking for. It is a POWER mentality. Think. Try to get in touch with your inner man. That's the point.
/r/seduction01/03/13 03:14 AM
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you're completely missing the point of this exercise
/r/seduction28/02/13 10:13 PM
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Ha thanks. If you stick to this you'll be fine. I learned most of this shit from experience the hard way. It's like clockwork Bizzaro kind of shit. When you try to keep em they flee. When you don't care they want you to keep em. lol
/r/seduction27/02/13 09:11 PM
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And that's where you're wrong. I won Nationals in Karate one year. I was very good at hockey and played at a competitive level with people 2 years older than me in my youth. That was SUPER rare. Playing hockey helped with certain kinds of reflexes that crossed over into martial arts. Practicing martial arts trained me to have reflexes that helped with hockey. Stretching was necessary for both sports. Mindsets from martial arts could help me keep focused in my position in hockey. Since the season…
/r/seduction27/02/13 12:12 PM
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So what? I lived in a shack in the middle of the forest and was still pulling women there. Guess what you need. Paint, and some cool art and some decor. Candles, incense etc. Hit up the local Salvation Army, thrift store, Big Lots or whatever and get some cool yet cheap stuff to make your place look nice. OWN it! No excuses. You can make a shithole into a den of seduction no problem with a little creativity and elbow grease. You should see how some women learn to decorate a simple studio apartme…
/r/seduction26/02/13 07:16 AM
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This is simply supplication. When you feel the need to explain your actions to a chick you are giving away your power and coming across beta. When you are not man enough to be yourself and you need to make up silly stories about being on medication, you're essentially being an AFC. Besides, if you learn this game you will discover, conversation is only about 30%. Some guys don't talk that much and still pull. Maybe, instead of learning how to tell goofy lies to chicks, learn how to play a more k…
/r/seduction25/02/13 07:14 PM
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Escalation is attractive. Kino is attractive. Let me break it down a little. I love day2s. I simply love them. Start out by making sure the venue location has 2 things going for it. It is close to your place. It is close to other interesting venues. The key is, you have to make sure you are escalating and kinoing her. Take her to the first place. If it's bar/restaurant to bar/restaurant only have 1 drink per venue with a maximum of 3 venues on one date. IF you are going to other places, just mak…
/r/seduction25/02/13 07:43 AM
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I've had several long term relationships since I've been at this. About 8 years now. The more focus you put on trying to make the girl your girlfriend the less they will want to be your girlfriend. The funny thing is, the girls I told, "We're nothing serious. We're just friends." are the ones that wanted to stick around more and more, while the ones I told, "Hey, I like you, I'd like to see you more," are the ones that bolted almost immediately. It's counter intuitive but I think WANTING a relat…
/r/seduction25/02/13 07:12 AM
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ya -and if you can get his audio course even better. At least his first 2 audio courses were really good. I think there was a third one but I never heard it.
/r/seduction23/02/13 08:16 PM
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Ok - I wanted to give people some time to answer but before we go out, which most of us are... ;) I wanted to give you guys a good one that a guy who I know, who's probably one of the best guys in the field here is Chicago says he uses. Accept and Call it out. He says, Her friends are NEVER obstacles. Friends are only allies yet to come. Friends are never obstacles - never fucking ever... So accept and call it out in a fun way. So to respond you could say, "I LOVE the way you stand up for your f…
/r/seduction23/02/13 02:34 AM
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Ha, "You're done in this town. She's Mine!!!"
/r/seduction23/02/13 12:42 AM
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I think in this case guys really need to try this out, Field test it and really get some solid in-field results before just thinking this is some magic pill. I think this line would work, but only if the girl liked him in the first place, and was already what Vin DeCarlo refers to as a Justifier. However, as far as just some quick line that guys will be able to use to get repetitive and consistent sex, I doubt this report is going to help much. Seems to me, many guys like to think there is some …
/r/seduction22/02/13 11:16 PM
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Actually in this game there is NO definitive answer for everyone but you are right in a sense. What works for one guy may be different than what works for another, just like what works to seduce one chick might be different than what works to seduce another. The goal is to get laid, not get phone numbers. I would tell you work more towards getting sex, and make phone number incidental.
/r/seduction22/02/13 10:22 PM
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Your welcome
/r/seduction22/02/13 10:18 PM
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LOL... http://youtu.be/mXPeLctgvQI
/r/seduction22/02/13 10:18 PM
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not a method it's a tool. http://www.seductiontuition.com/swinggcat/push-pull-examples.html
/r/seduction22/02/13 04:20 AM
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Ego is the enemy
/r/seduction22/02/13 03:33 AM
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Keep believing cavalier. There is strength in being positive. A lot of guys who get into this sort of fall into the bandwagon that woman are all the same, there is no perfect woman for you out there, etc. It's sort of like overcompensating for scarcity mentality, but the secret trick of it is, it's still thinking with scarcity mentality. A man with true abundance thinks that FOR SURE there is a kickass girl out there for him, because he's not trying to pretend to himself he has abundance, he kno…
/r/seduction22/02/13 03:23 AM
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Dude, I can write a big long post OR I can just point you in the right direction to someone who explains it much better than I do. Read the pdf' Swingcat - Real World Seduction" and then find Swingcat's audio. Make sure you start using push pull a little more and you'll be all set.
/r/seduction22/02/13 03:08 AM
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Don't take it personal when I say it's borderline. My OP said, make sure you are talking about real field experience, not theories. So as long as you are talking about Field Experience I'm cool. That being said, while there is no correct answer there are things that work better than not when you're in the field. This thread is made for discussion, so shooting out field tested, ideas that have worked is the whole purpose. I'm talking about club game. Things like this wont happen during daygame. Y…
/r/seduction22/02/13 01:14 AM
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I like this one. I kinda came up with my own version of the same thing, and instead of waiting you could say it right off. I appreciate that, and I'm sure you're friend is a big girl, and you probably can give her enough credit as her friend to make her own decisions on who she wants to talk to."
/r/seduction22/02/13 01:04 AM
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I upped this but it's borderline. If the UG is really trying to get rid of you this approach isn't going to be that effective, but it's a start. Her response may very well likely be her Re-Exerting her frame like, "Sorry we really are just trying to talk. Can you please leave?" It's not bad, it has the social angle but may not break a chick hellbent on fucking up her friend and You.
/r/seduction22/02/13 12:33 AM
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Keep in mind the chick is saying this as if she's going to dismiss you. Sometimes in these situations in the past if you persist and continue to try to talk to the target the Ug will resort to saying, "So can you please leave now." Or even, "I've tried to be polite so can you just leave." As if her saying that covers up the fact that she was being rude to you. ;)
/r/seduction21/02/13 08:41 PM
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Actually, Masf used to have a Reading Impaired section that Formhandle would move the bad posts to. It was sort of the way to call out the people who were setting a bad example or posting garbage but at the same time it was a way to show people examples of bad posts to avoid.
/r/seduction21/02/13 08:29 PM
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good advice. For some reason it appears this thread has disappeared. I may need to try and repost it. :?
/r/seduction21/02/13 08:09 PM
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So basically what you guys are saying is that people that lived in their own country and then lived here, who practiced game successfully in both places, don't actually know how game works in their own country vs here. I will agree, women are easier to talk to here but what they said is they are EASIER to close (that means actual SEX, not a phone number or a smile of a hug or kiss. ;) back in Europe than they are here. The thing is, are you guys talking from experience as guys who are Consistent…
/r/seduction21/02/13 08:02 PM
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Here's the problem. Getting a number is WOOD. Wood meaning (from back in the day) it's numbers written on a piece of paper. These guys are getting numbers of chicks they will most likely NEVER talk to again. Getting phone numbers is easy as hell, but getting a number has NOTHING to do with SOLID GAME.
/r/seduction21/02/13 07:11 PM
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It's not relevant because it's TERRIBLE game. This will only make guys go around and get flaky numbers and wonder why they aren't getting laid or are never talking to those chicks again.
/r/seduction21/02/13 07:09 PM
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Well let's see, one guy moved here from Russia and the other from Romania and they BOTH had the same story and don't know each other. I call it noticing a pattern. I also know guys who travel around the world. Ya, the reports are pretty unanimous on this one. Unless, say, the chick lives in a strict society like in some parts of India or the Middle East. But from the aspect of where girls and guys play the game yes. US women are considered by many some of the most difficult. Some of these guys s…
/r/seduction21/02/13 06:55 PM
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Guys who I know that come here from Europe and start gaming in the US tell me game is WAAAAAAAAAAY Easier back home (Europe) than it is in the US. Apparently US women are some of the hardest to game on earth. From the way these guys describe it, game in their home countries is actually pretty easy in comparison. Apparently just getting past the initial resistance of the open is enough. Once you're past that you're golden and you can actually be pretty pull without any push. I think that's what D…
/r/seduction21/02/13 06:31 PM
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Here's the thing. Do you have days off, at all? I mean I doubt you are working every single day. If you are, I would gear towards changing your life eventually, and sooner than later. Here's the deal. You can choose whatever life makes you happiest. I agree with the guy saying being happy with yourself FIRST is key and that finding Capturing that this is important. If you are working and making all the money in the world, but you're not living the life you TRULY know you want to, then how is tha…
/r/seduction21/02/13 05:40 PM
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Solid. Couldn't have said it better myself.. ;)
/r/seduction21/02/13 05:29 PM
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Ha - Interesting timing. I think this will only benefit in the long run. The Mods are highly skilled and can filter through stuff, if we ignore the reports, everything is fine, no harm done. Me thinks you guys will be very busy. NOT ONLY from people posting bad advice, BUT from KJs Flagging GOOD Advice. lol Enjoi!
/r/seduction21/02/13 05:07 PM
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Context is important. You're making the assumption for the op that he is being sincere but to me it sounds like a line, and girls will know the difference many times between a guy who actually gives a shit about her answer vs the guy who's just using a cheesy line. Plus he's describing it as some super opener. I there were such a thing as an opener that made everyone in the club like you and made girls come up and start making out with you, there would be no community, and this guy would be rich…
/r/seduction21/02/13 04:32 AM
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/r/seduction20/02/13 04:47 PM
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Hey man, have you ever tried EFT? I'm not saying it will work and I'm not saying it wont work. I don't know in your case, but I used to have some fucked up shit going on in my life, and it seemed to help that stuff. EFT is Emotional Freedom Technique. You can google it, but I can link you up with a free ebook and a couple videos. Does it help stuttering? The thing is, I decided when I had my own personal shit back in the day that, instead of being a victim I would figure out a way to take contro…
/r/seduction20/02/13 04:44 PM
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This reminds me of some of the reports on Masf back in the day. I walked into the club and started using "the look". I gave, "the look" to girls and they would start getting horny and soon, I started making out with some girls so I pulled her to the bathroom and started fucking her. The thing is, I would tell people to try this, and find out that NO GIRL is going to just start making out with you. Sorry man. In real life there is no magic pill to get girls to just start making out with you, and …
/r/seduction20/02/13 04:23 PM
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Going out, but before I do I want you to think about why you feel the need to try and frame my observation with emotion that simply does not exist. Whining, critiquing, reverse hating, tightly wound etc etc, are lables you are attempting to place on my post You and I both know that there is simply NO emotional tone of "whining" or any of that other stuff in my post, as you say. Read Grid1roN's comments. He gets it. That being said, 95% of guys who get into this game will Fail. That's a quote DJ …
/r/seduction19/02/13 03:10 AM
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I downvoted you because of your lack of creative and thoughtful input, especially since you're a moderator and should offer a lot more than that.
/r/seduction19/02/13 02:27 AM
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I upvoted you because your "criticism" (which doesn't seem like criticism to me, but more like asking people to discuss why they would jam the down button) of downvoters helps illustrate my point. Especially due to the reaction it received.
/r/seduction19/02/13 02:26 AM
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The interesting thing about this post is I said, (if this is not you disregard it.) So basically that means that people actually can pick which element of the post they belong to/identify with. I did not categorically shove everyone into one group by any means.
/r/seduction19/02/13 02:23 AM
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Totally different story. I actually agree a little with you. But think of it this way. What would help YOU improve more? Jamming the Down button, leaving a smarmy, sarcastic answer OR actually thinking of a creative answer that might help them?
/r/seduction19/02/13 02:20 AM
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So what you're saying is that by becoming good at running, building your leg muscles, stamina, flexibility, reflexes and so on, it won't benefit you as far as becoming a better tennis player? Isn't that like saying Weight Training wont help you become a better football player? Well then why is it that everyone that plays football spends an extensive amount of time doing weight training? Actually, I used to do martial arts when I was growing up. I played very competitive hockey as well. Do you kn…
/r/seduction19/02/13 02:03 AM
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True, much like many of the commenters in this thread. People want to be part of the "cool" crowd. They want to be looked up to. I knew when I posted this it would be controversial, but I'm not worried about being the "cool" guy on the computer. I am more focused on Success, and helping other guys succeed with the knowledge and experience I have acquired through trial and error and a hell of a lot of time in this game. It's "cool" to some people to shit on the hard work and success of others. Bu…
/r/seduction19/02/13 01:59 AM
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You would be right if you weren't wrong. ;) There's absolutely no complaining going on. This is an observation I have made, and your attempts to reframe it all is simply you feeling threatened that you are most likely guilty of what I talk about in my post. ;) I kinda feel what will happen with this post is people will identify with whom they feel most like. The guys who are positive and success driven will ID with being positive while the guys who are more concerned with competing with others a…
/r/seduction18/02/13 09:47 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/18rthf/seddit_haters_vs_players_which_one_are_you/ Done and Done ;)
/r/seduction18/02/13 09:01 PM
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It's in the details my man. To me it actually seems very obvious and try-hard. Plus someone leaked some RSD emails way back in the day where they talked about how that was their plan, to be considered Pick Up Gods and how they could do whatever it took to make that happen. Beyond that, though, are in all his videos or speeches where he says things like, "Well I don't want to get all Nerdy and Technical but when you ________ (insert community lingo))" Or, "I don't want to be the mental masturbate…
/r/seduction18/02/13 07:21 PM
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Source is I've been in this community since before the book was even in existence. To a lot of the old school guys it was pretty obvious. Style really isn't that good in the field. It is even said he has terrible approach anxiety and had to have other people open his sets for him. Then if you watch the Annihilation Method, he is talking about how he retired from the game after finding the "Perfect Girl for him" which pretty much amounted to his First Long Term Girlfriend ever, that chick from th…
/r/seduction18/02/13 07:06 PM
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True story...
/r/seduction18/02/13 06:26 PM
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Me too. 2 things I would like to do is learn a language and learn to be good at swing dancing or salsa.
/r/seduction18/02/13 06:25 PM
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I was thinking about it. Probably will sometime later. Thanks!
/r/seduction18/02/13 06:22 PM
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Except the book "The Game" is fiction based on truth and is basically used to Social Proof Style and Mystery and make the other guys look bad
/r/seduction18/02/13 04:23 AM
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I'm pretty new to Seddit, but here's what I think is happening. In life, there is a bit of a contest going on. In the Seduction Community, there is a HUGE ego thing going on where 2 things happen for many guys. (ps -if this doesn't apply to you congratulate yourself, but if it DOES you will know it by reading this - in that case, you can continue to hate OR you can be honest with yourself and learn how to change your mindset which is surely holding you back.) They want to get good. They want eve…
/r/seduction17/02/13 09:04 PM
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Short answer, Yes and No - Yes because he's figured out how to be a better Marketer, how to have people consider him and his crew the, "Rock Stars" of the community, how to make sure all of his coaches talk about having 15 girlfriends when most of the guys who are amazing that I know realize statements like that are probably stretching the truth quite a lot to market more than to talk about reality. However, I am sure his success level is probably pretty much no better than it was in the game, a…
/r/seduction17/02/13 08:59 PM
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I don't think there's anything wrong with that at all. If you're happy doin what you're doin no need to change. I originally wrote this for guys who have a tendency to take the easier way out, without even knowing that's what they're doing. I run into a LOT of guys like this. As a matter of fact I would say a MAJORITY of guys learning this, even here on Seddit, will fall prey to something like this that will take them completely out of the game.
/r/seduction16/02/13 08:08 PM
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You did fine. Girls are flaky creatures when they're younger. Let her do her thing. There are more women out there to bang. But also the best thing is, you have been unreactive with this chick. In the long run, when you show them this, they will sometimes revisit you later on down the line. ;) Just recently I was dealing with a younger chick, she got back with her x-boyfriend and for some reason was trying to frame me out as a bad guy, when I had done nothing to warrant it. I think it was so she…
/r/seduction16/02/13 12:44 AM
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Not when I wrote this, this morning. It had a -3 votes.
/r/seduction16/02/13 12:21 AM
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It's better to do this: One of you go in and open the set. Get sticky (hook). Then figure out some signal person 1 can give to person 2, like scratching the back of your head or whatever. Then you go in like you just found him, "Oh hey! What's up!?" And then the person already in set introduces you to the chicks. "hey this is my friend... blah blah. He (accomplishment intro)." Then whoever opened the set owns the set. He should then intro you to the chicks and say, "This is 'tweedle dee' and thi…
/r/seduction15/02/13 09:41 PM
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Have fun, Open Sets, STICK In set, be social, kino. Isolate chicks you like. STICK IN SET.
/r/seduction15/02/13 06:15 PM
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dude, you kinda already have plans, however it depends. If you tell her what you just said here and say it with CONFIDENCE not neediness. In other words, not being apologetic. The other thing is, she's inviting you out with her friends. That will get you no-where anyway. I mean, it would be possibly fun, but not in a way that could help you escalate towards seduction. So, do what you want. You have to take a risk because if she says NO to meeting you in person and you tell her you have other pla…
/r/seduction15/02/13 06:13 PM
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I don't get what's wrong with this thread and why it got the thumbs down... So may haters on Seddit. I think this guy was just trying to get an enthusiastic conversation going...
/r/seduction15/02/13 06:09 PM
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By practicing doing it. 80/20 rule. At first you will be doing 80% of the conversation and she will only be doing 20% . It's normal. Here's something for you to work on until you art good at it. write down 10 words on a piece of paper. Random words. The LESS similar in context the better. Don't cheat. If you have to grab a dictionary and flip through the pages picking random words do it. Then you are going to, out-loud, recite a story connecting all the words together IN ORDER. example with 3 wo…
/r/seduction15/02/13 06:03 PM
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Ya - there's the cocky funny approach and then there's the not actually answering the question approach. I got the same comment from a girl yesterday. I'll tell you this much. You're own limiting beliefs are probably the only thing stopping you from getting a good girl. As a matter of fact, my bread and butter are "good" girls these days. I would much rather have a cool, innocent seeming chick than a club-slut. And to tell you the truth the sexiest shit that has happened has been with those "goo…
/r/seduction15/02/13 05:50 PM
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Spending time on here is good. But you gotta get out in the field. I tell everyone - give it 50/50 50% studying and 50% going out and working on what you learned. As a matter of fact, I have personally noticed that when I get out in the field AFTER a good study session that my close rate goes up. At least that used to be the case. I think my game is pretty much all internalized at this point. But glad to see this is helping you. Now get out there and get some ass!
/r/seduction15/02/13 05:42 PM
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Props in the Swingcat. Lots of noobs have no idea who he is, and they SHOULD ;)
/r/seduction15/02/13 05:37 PM
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EFT Works!
/r/seduction15/02/13 05:20 PM
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Well, the funny thing is, some of these sweet an innocent girls ARE crazy in the sack IF you know how to bring it out of them.
/r/seduction15/02/13 05:19 PM
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Ha, this is not going to be the answer you might expect. Try EFT - Seriously. Millions of people use it for stuff like fear and shit. http://youtu.be/UlIrvu78NO0 Thank me later.
/r/seduction15/02/13 08:48 AM
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No man, personal choice. I don't think there's anything wrong with your choice. However, this is probably not the best place for you to improve as I think it sounds like your problem is not that you can't get laid, which is what 99% of the guys here are trying to learn to do. It sounds like you CAN but don't want to. I know guys who practiced seduction just so they could find that 1 chick and get married to her. It happens. You're making your choice and it's a cool one. Hopefully you do find tha…
/r/seduction15/02/13 08:44 AM
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Exactly. When I first started learning to get good with text, a lot of my own texts would make me cringe. I would send a text and think, "Oh shit." But then these chicks would be responding. I remember one time long ago I sent a text to a chick that said, "Keep up that attitude and I will smack you on the ass HARD! Actually, I take that back, you'll probably like that." My mind was like NOOO! Don't Send That! I did it anyway. She replied, "You know me so well..." and it basically got the sexual …
/r/seduction15/02/13 06:54 AM
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ok seddit stalker guy
/r/seduction15/02/13 12:44 AM
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you're still clinging to this? dude no one cares anymore - keep up with the thread. you're so invested you actually re-wrote the same reply in 2 different ways. Talk about creepy ;) You're like my new Seddit stalker
/r/seduction15/02/13 12:36 AM
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from storkel11 via /r/seduction/ sent 45 seconds ago show parent Oh nooo Storkel11 - you don't get to get off that easy -deleting a comment after realizing you owned yourself. storkel11 via /r/seduction/ sent 45 seconds ago: Wow dude, more imaginary scenarios - you are off the mark. I'm not miuwanna - she probably lost interest, esp after she saw your really try-hard reply. I used to live in Chicago and I recognize your handle from the Chicago lair forum. Since the forum is private, if you make …
/r/seduction15/02/13 12:28 AM
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ok cool :)
/r/seduction15/02/13 12:16 AM
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One Other possibility is that you're really miauwanna posting from an alias account. Otherwise why would you only have 1 post or comment ever and it just so happens to be a reply to this thread. redditor for 6 hours LOL. In other words you created the account RIGHT when you commented. And if that's the case, that you went out of your way to create an alias account just to reply to me (to avoid embarrassment), then you really ARE qualifying yourself to me
/r/seduction14/02/13 07:58 PM
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but let me ask you this? Have you ever considered the possibility that the reason you are afraid people wont like you is because, on some level, you don't like yourself and don't feel you deserve other people liking you? And if that's the case, you gotta learn to change and start with YOU. Learn to love yourself, for real. Then you can start feeling cool with the people around you.
/r/seduction14/02/13 07:26 PM
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Actually your attempts to be the White Knight on the computer message board are creepy. Because why don't you go back and tell me how, my OP, which is a big enthusiastic, "You can do it, man. Don't worry, you got plenty of time! Be the best you can, life gets better," is creepy in any way, shape or form. No man. The very fact that she came out trying to make a negative comment about it was, to me, pretty try-hard. So, the only think I can think of is she is Trying Hard to get my attention. And n…
/r/seduction14/02/13 06:23 PM
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ok... I see. You want my attention.. Fine. I'll bite. ... I feel like you're the girl on the sidelines in the club watching me flirt with the other hot girls and you're telling your friends, "Those girls are sluts. That guy would never have a chance with me." Meanwhile you wish I was paying attention to you. :) Well, I am a 5'10", 63kg, 23 year old female that identifies as heterosexual, sooo.... I think you saying that I am envious is fairly inaccurate. For those of you playing at home, this is…
/r/seduction14/02/13 09:13 AM
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you're mad cuz my style you're admirin'... Don't be mad, UPS is hirin' ... ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ff-t_UzGXiM#! - (sorry this is my favorite song this week)
/r/seduction14/02/13 09:10 AM
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You're being a dick to beat other people to the punch of rejection. You're just trying to reject them before they have a chance to reject you. You're too afraid to let people get close to you because you think they'll hate you so you just be a dick to them, and push them away because it makes you feel like you have power and choice. But you don't. You are giving up power and choice out of fear of being rejected. Your rejection is passive aggressive. That makes you a weak ass. Not snazzy, not cre…
/r/seduction14/02/13 08:31 AM
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God Bless You ProfessionalAsshole ;)
/r/seduction14/02/13 08:11 AM
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Disdain of someone who has what you don't feel you're capable of.. Ya. That's what Hater means. But let me ask you this? How's being envious and jealous of me (no matter how you try to color it as something different) going to help you improve with women?
/r/seduction14/02/13 07:12 AM
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I would be much more satisfied in attempting with this girl, than asking myself "what if" all day Afterwards, I can confirm my earlier hypothesis. I give myself more credit for at least trying, no matter how much I sucked. Today is a new day. PERFECT - Now get out there and do it again... I had a girl straight up frown at me yesterday, 10 minutes before I got the contact information from a cute chick, and 30 minutes before I got a number from a completely different chick. And tonight I'm going t…
/r/seduction13/02/13 08:02 PM
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Well then, buddy. Get used to being lonely for the rest of your life. It sounds to me you're just being lazy and afraid. Nothing you say is impressive in the least. The reason you feel the need to be a dick is because you fear rejection. There is ABSOLUTELY ZERO power in your position. Women don't want weak and afraid guys. They want MEN. Right now you are acting NOTHING like a man. Good luck
/r/seduction13/02/13 07:49 PM
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Try before you buy. ;) You're not pulling the chick home, you're pulling her to a table with cool people. You're putting a box around her telling her, "You seem cool, come with me." By telling her that she wants to be "cool" so of course she'll want to come with you. Try it both ways. The ESP game is ok too. Whatever you think is going to establish value real fast.
/r/seduction13/02/13 07:45 PM
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Ya - and keep on keepin on too. I just posted an old field report of mine on my blog about this. My opener sucked and I still had this cute burlesque dancer back at my house the same day giving me lap dances, a blowjob and sex. There was also the element in there of keep on going because you never know. Anyway if you got a little time check it out (it's long but I break my shit down pretty damn throughly). The moral of the story is you never know man. The ONLY way you can find out is to go. To t…
/r/seduction13/02/13 07:42 PM
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That was reeking of hater... ;)
/r/seduction13/02/13 07:33 PM
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Once you've been at this a while, and get good you'll start to realize you can open with SHIT and still get laid. Half the time I don't even know what the hell I open with. I remember one time I opened a chick. I walked over to her and said, "I had to come over and flirt with you.... I can't help it (and I pointed to my head), it's in my brain." I still fucked her. My openers to this day are shit. One thing I learned from Juggler - You can open with ANYTHING.
/r/seduction13/02/13 08:35 AM
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Ya - you don't have a skill to piss people off. I mean you do, but it's not what you think it is. You have a gift to see into people and pick them apart in one specific "genre" if you will. But that's NOT going to do you any good in seduction. That is, UNLESS you can get over your anger. That's right. The reason you're good at pissing people off is because you're angry yourself. I don't know if that's aggressive anger, or more like sarcastic/sardonic anger or passive aggressive anger or a combin…
/r/seduction13/02/13 08:27 AM
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I mean, I got over my social programming long ago my man. She loved it as much as I did. I have a question for you. Can you tell me who made up the 1/2 age +7 Etiquette you're referring to?
/r/seduction13/02/13 06:17 AM
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lolol
/r/seduction13/02/13 05:11 AM
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Hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa! Dude, I STARTED this game when I was 31 THIRTY ONE. I am 39 years old and slept with a HOT 20 year old about a week ago and we did it a few days in a row. I have had more girls in the 8 years in the community than I can remember. Seriously. I can't count. The thing is - dude you're 25. You're YOUNG. The Past is History, the Future is a Mystery and the present is a Gift.. ;) As Major Mark once said, "The past is not something that sticks with you and has some effect on yo…
/r/seduction13/02/13 03:59 AM
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ya - Read RISK CREEPY by 60yearsofchallenge. http://www.puahate.com/showthread.php?t=6721
/r/seduction13/02/13 03:47 AM
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Guess who you get to become? "Mr Lets have a party Guy!!" You may as well start being the guy with cool shit to do. You may as well start inviting out the women you work with for random adventures and drinks. But YES Indirect will be your friend. Be the Terminator Hunter-Killer on the look out for IOIs. Don't EVER overly flirt with woment when you are the minority. You just make sure you are doing the inviting. You make sure you are the guy that Just So Happens to always have a place where peopl…
/r/seduction13/02/13 03:33 AM
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You don't need to make this too involved. The key is not to play long drawn out games before the pull to the table. You just want to get some basic Value - it can be as easy as a spin. How about this. I will post Ninja Bear Cowboy before the weekend. ;)
/r/seduction13/02/13 03:28 AM
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Well you find a table or an area you can kinda socialize in. In other words STEP 1 is Find a table. Some bars are good for this. Some places, like in clubs, if you get there early enough you can find a spot. Basically, moral of the story is, there is no magical formula for finding a table/pull area. You just do. As easy as it sounds this is where some newer guys will freak out. You just have to make sure at least 1 person stays at the table AND you have to make sure that person owns the table, i…
/r/seduction13/02/13 02:28 AM
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No big deal man. I'm glad to help... Affirmations I'm SURE had a lot to do with my own personal Change. Any of that stuff is good actually like Hypnotica, Ross Jeffries (self-hypnosis and so on). visualizing is great too. There is the Attractivator by Hypnotica for instance. I think it's around 25 minutes a day. I used to do the Sphynx of Imagination as well, but that was more for some personal emotional Damage, however I think it would be great for getting over nervousness, fear and social anxi…
/r/seduction13/02/13 02:13 AM
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That's why we have the Seduction community. lol ;) Dating sites like Quora are mainstream. We can't fix them Guys will try that shit and find out it doesn't help. It's like the videos on Youtube with that asian guy who says in his Titles things like, "Why PUAs hate me." and he teaches guys to work out. Then, once they get in shape they find out they are no better off then before. (I know because I have my students tell me this. I lost the weight and got in shape and nothing changed. Girls didn't…
/r/seduction12/02/13 11:39 PM
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I SWEAR I just answered this yesterday. I will copy and paste it here for you... ;) 2 things I have used to great success... (and if you want to see what I mean by success you can check my blog by googling "Libra Chronicles") 1 - Affirmations. Some great ones are about you being attractive, the prize, etc. Cory Skyy's Magnetic Mindset has some good ones on the third disk - a 10 minute session and a 20 minute session. I would say you can just listen to them and have some effect, but the way I did…
/r/seduction12/02/13 10:46 PM
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No man. She's trying to help you. Seriously. Women can be the worst at giving advice at times UNLESS it has to do with the frame you're laying down to her. She's saying you're being reactionary and it's obvious. It means you're projecting. I went out with a chick YEARS ago when I started this (before the book the Game was even out). It was a good date but I couldn't close her. Finally I told her, just to see what would happen, that I was practicing pick up. She was all cute about it. So I asked …
/r/seduction12/02/13 10:41 PM
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Be happy you know about this stuff so early my man. A little patience. Soon you will have a license and a Car and you will be pulling ass. You're a bit young but just wait. Once you have a car you'll be golden.
/r/seduction12/02/13 10:31 PM
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Like I said in the post, the Cory Skyy Magnificent Mindset has CD #3 that has some badass ones. Examples might be, "I am a sexy motherfucker." "I am the Prize" "Women want to fuck me everywhere I go." "There are 1000s of women out there who want to meet me." "Women are flowing to me like a river running through me." Be creative. It depends on your personal needs.
/r/seduction12/02/13 09:44 PM
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also there's a Chicago Seddit Board: http://www.reddit.com/r/chicagoseddit/
/r/seduction12/02/13 06:01 AM
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Ha - We already have a lair here. Oh - I just saw Tripp's reply. Thanks Tripp.
/r/seduction12/02/13 05:59 AM
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Actually ya. Don't post pics on here to quell the jealous haters. Have some respect for women. I DO post pics but NEVER unless it's in a Private members only forum.
/r/seduction12/02/13 05:43 AM
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ok - now I did look it up and I'm worried that you watch stuff like that. I hope you're learning this to pick up women.
/r/seduction12/02/13 12:56 AM
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I dunno - let me look him up...
/r/seduction12/02/13 12:54 AM
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on a side note - you ARE the first person in my 8 years in the seduction community that used the term "Trolling" like you were cool for doing it. Not that that's a good thing... ;)
/r/seduction11/02/13 11:43 PM
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settle down dude. breathe. you'll be fine. The way you're acting it's pretty clear to me Exactly where you are in your game. You have a LOT to improve on. There's nothing wrong with being the new guy. You don't get good with women by playing "Mr Alpha Dude!" on an anonymous message board.
/r/seduction11/02/13 11:23 PM
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ya man. Right now you are (or should be) focused on building a Skillset. The problem with a lot of newer guys is that they want to get a chick and then once they do they want to make her a girlfriend right away. I say, until you get your skillset dialed in it's BEST to not settle down with the first girl who comes your way. You want to get to a point where you have choice with women. 1 or the other is not choice. A choice is when you have 3 or more options (credit Hypnotica). Now does that mean …
/r/seduction11/02/13 10:27 PM
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No problem m8.
/r/seduction11/02/13 10:22 PM
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No problem man. This is one I like to share because shit like this worked for me.
/r/seduction11/02/13 10:12 PM
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I'll tell you one thing. If you're always this angry about shit you're gonna have a hell of a time pulling quality women. You gotta learn to have fun with this. When guys are new they get So stuck in this, "I need to show everyone I'm the ALPHA male!!" So they overcompensate and try to prove themselves to everyone. The thing is, once you get more experience you'll relax off that a little and everyone won't seem like such a threat to you that you feel the need to compete with. But it takes a whil…
/r/seduction11/02/13 10:10 PM
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I mean it's a basic example. It can be whatever. and Yes. In my most recent close that lasted a few days and ended last week (link to backstory: http://librachronicles.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/the-seduction-of-rainbow-dash-part-1/ ) The first date was 2 coffeeshops then I dropped her off - didn't close yet. I explain in the story. The second date was basically 1 restaurant and then back to my place for the close. Done. Then the next time we went out and we bounced to 3 or 4 different bars (ALL B…
/r/seduction11/02/13 09:59 PM
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That makes Zero sense in this context since we're talking about a good day2 spot. If you meet a high value girl and your best Day2 idea is, "Why don't you come over my place." She will NOT do it. You're going to have to meet her out and extract her back. Low hanging fruit? Sure. You can get them back to your place no problem. But these girls, and I mean the sexy ones, the beautiful ones, they have guys trying to get them back to their houses constantly. Sorry my man. When you get a little experi…
/r/seduction11/02/13 09:46 PM
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Ya - when I used to live in BFE girls would immediately come back to my place. Now that I'm in Chicago I notice they need a little meet out first. Once I meet them out it's not a problem even if I meet them for 10 minutes at a bar and we go back and have sex. I need to write a report about the chick I banged with about 30 minutes of actual face time. She was hot and gave me the best blowjob of my entire life...
/r/seduction11/02/13 06:43 PM
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I like to get a girl sitting next to me at the bar. I become Mr Hands at that point. She's RIGHT THERE! :)
/r/seduction11/02/13 06:41 PM
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Thanks. I use them to illustrate the mindset you should be in when you are doing/thinking/reading what I just said.
/r/seduction11/02/13 06:40 PM
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Also you may want to look up the post by Mystery about the Timebridge http://puas.open-board.com/t207-building-a-time-bridge-mystery It's dated but the same basics still apply.
/r/seduction11/02/13 06:39 PM
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PM me...
/r/seduction11/02/13 06:37 PM
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Don't worry bro. Girls come and go. Listen to some Fleetwood Mac, Dreams. Ya I just dated myself lol. But here's the thing. I just wrote about a chick (on my blog, google "libra chronicles" and read the Posts about The Seduction of Rainbow Dash if you want the back story). She was in Chicago for a short time. She loved being around me when she was here but the whole time, her boyfriend who I guess she just broke up with before she visited Chicago for a month, was texting her relentlessly trying …
/r/seduction11/02/13 06:19 PM
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Go get her! Close that chick. Strike when the iron is hot. ;)
/r/seduction11/02/13 08:23 AM
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I was just talking about this with a student I was teaching today. 2 things I have used to great success... (and if you want to see what I mean by success you can check my blog by googling "Libra Chronicles") 1 - Affirmations. Some great ones are about you being attractive, the prize, etc. Cory Skyy's Magnetic Mindset has some good ones on the third disk - a 10 minute session and a 20 minute session. I would say you can just listen to them and have some effect, but the way I did affirmations was…
/r/seduction11/02/13 07:51 AM
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You guys think this is a good line, but it's not. Learn microcalibration. you NEVER return and IOD with and IOI or in this case and SOI. (Indicator of Disinterest, Indicator of Interest, Statement of Intent for those of you playing at home)' Technically by saying, even in a jokey way, "I thought you were a girl." which, at first glance might seem a little cocky funny or a neg, you REALLY are saying you like her translated thus. Her: Let's find you a girl - Translated: Some OTHER girl but NOT me.…
/r/seduction11/02/13 07:24 AM
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Getting a phone number is easy. In the seduction game it is a very small step to overall fucking a chick. So, when you get a flaky phone number, which will happen a lot when you are new, it is most likely not something you are doing wrong after you get the number, though it could be, it is something you did wrong before you even got the number OR it could be the chick just doesn't like you. Funny enough a phone number is being taught these days by many seduction companies like Simple Pickup and …
/r/seduction11/02/13 06:49 AM
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Never will work in a place like Chicago. No girl will come straight over to my place. Where I used to live they will but not here. So the inviting them for dinner thing is iffy depending on the type of girl and where you live. Not super effective to the higher value girls.
/r/seduction11/02/13 06:28 AM
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A good date location is not WHAT, it is WHERE. The date location is about Logistics. The reason you are meeting the girl is to escalate and extract. If you can't extract then you want to let the girl leave feeling like she wants to see you again. How do we do this? Find an area near your place. The best day2 game is all about Venue Change and creating YOU and HER being the fun. Activities like mini-golf is ok but it takes a long time and wont create the same effect that venue changing to 2 or 3 …
/r/seduction11/02/13 06:19 AM
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If this is Seduction based I have a better one. The truly devoted, for the purification of the heart, perform actions with their bodies, their minds, their understanding, and their senses, putting away all self-interest. The man who is devoted and not attached to the fruit of his actions obtains tranquillity; whilst he who through desire has attachment for the fruit of action is bound down thereby. So in other words, be attached to the Actions and not the the Fruits of Action. Or even better yet…
/r/seduction11/02/13 04:37 AM
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I mean... It's Yoga. You aren't going to catch them at yoga class and take them home, and if you fail you will have the Stygma as "That Guy." and not in a good way. I fucked girls from my Yoga Class, AFTER I stopped going to the Yoga Class. I mean, unless you can figure out a way to make events happen with other chicks in your yoga class like, "Hey, there's this cool natural juice bar down the street. Let's go get a smoothy." But then you want to know openers. OPENERS are what you say to start a…
/r/seduction11/02/13 04:27 AM
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Easy. Incongruence. There's something you did that threw up the red flag. I have had similar experience in the past. Mostly they happen when a girl does something I call the "Girlfriend test". However it may have nothing to do with that if you were just incongruent in something you did that put her off. Maybe, due to inexperience, you did/said something or acted a certain way that didn't fit the way she perceived you when you met. Maybe you came across at first as a confident guy with a lot goin…
/r/seduction11/02/13 04:15 AM
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