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There are a handful of contributors that occasionally post some insightful stuff, but overall the sub itself is fucking terrible. The mods allow men to be talked about in ways that would surely result in a ban if it were instead discourse about women in a feminist sub; broad generalisations, female members denying men's lived experiences, accepting defenses of "treating all men as rapists", defenses of misandric statements like #menaretrash, defenses of male circumcision, and even straight up vi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/20 03:46 AM
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Male humanoid.
/r/MensRights07/06/20 08:53 AM
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Pretty much. Felonious implies criminal intent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/20 02:57 AM
1

That's not what I said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/20 02:36 AM
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You're technically right. For the world population the birth ratio split is around 105 males for every 100 females. This ratio flips over the life course, slanting toward a female bias later on, around 50. By age 70, there are only 89 males for every 100 females. By age 90, there are 50. Obviously this differs country to country, but generally women of voting age outnumber men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 11:17 PM
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Feminists view "female privilege", ("benevolent sexism" as they call it) as resulting from negative ideas about women, while male privilege results from positive ideas about men. This allows them to reconcile patriarchy theory and female privilege, because any advantages afforded to them are still the result of their oppression. This is just a matter of framing though, and doesn't reflect reality. For example, they explain the sentencing gap by claiming that women are viewed as inferior, or poss…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 10:46 PM
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Lol, apparently not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 10:21 PM
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One of the biggest problems borne from the traditional gender role is the difference in perceived agency between men and women, so it's a little backward that any attempt to dismantle them still relies on this sexist idea as a baseline for action. Hypo-agency still drives the response to women's issues. For women to escape their gender role society must change, because women's choices are the result of socialisation, not free will. Conversely, hyper-agency still drives the response to men's issu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 08:57 PM
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This is my issue with subs like MensLib when they discuss the social pressures that affect men. They're forever talking about toxic masculinity, which is fine, but they tend to focus on how to personally deal with the conditions. They never delve into what causes them in the first place.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/06/20 08:01 PM
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That'd never happen. For the left, acknowledging racism is safe. Acknowledging misandry isn't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/20 01:57 AM
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I can just imagine that person ingame. Teammate :"Ok guys, we'll take B flag first and then head to C". Them: "I'm trans".
/r/MensRights25/05/20 07:13 AM
2

Male privilege isn't as clear cut as straight, or white privilege. There are plenty of examples of men facing social and even legal injustice solely because of their gender.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/20 07:35 PM
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That's why the "No true Scotsman" defense of subs like PinkPillFeminism is BS. The feminist narrative that men created the patriarchy to oppress women for their benefit teaches women to see men as the enemy, the constant gendering of issues and misrepresentation of statistics teaches them to see every man as a threat, and the flagrant apathy toward men's issues teaches them that men aren't worthy of empathy. These women didn't arrive at their twisted worldview by chance. They just followed femin…
/r/MensRights23/05/20 08:57 AM
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I think you have your threads mixed up.
/r/MensRights23/05/20 08:45 AM
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I'm not sure about Canada. In the USMC, 3 in 4 fail. Most women who pass don't even apply for combat positions.
/r/MensRights23/05/20 07:20 AM
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The best you can say is that she may be demonstrating a similar percentage score within some population. I'm guessing that's probably the aim of the test. It's a quick initial assessment. A low bar for both genders. You don't get handed a rifle and put on a plane after completing 14 pushups. You've still got to complete basic training. The question of "who can hump a 50lb ruck twenty miles before noon" is answered there.
/r/MensRights23/05/20 06:56 AM
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They do. I think the biggest difference is grip strength. The pushup test is largely irrelevant anyway. It's a low bar. Applicants who pass the initial physical test, but aren't fit for the actual physical demands of the military get weeded out in basic training.
/r/MensRights23/05/20 06:45 AM
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Sure, presuming that pushups even translate well to the physical demands of the military.
/r/MensRights23/05/20 06:30 AM
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Oh, for sure. I deliberately specified that the lower rep target is fair if a woman completing 14 pushups demonstrated a similar level of fitness as a man completing 28. A physical test that reflects the actual physical demands of the armed forces would be far more useful, but that isn't what the OP asked.
/r/MensRights23/05/20 06:00 AM
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Well aksually, I meant straight white men, but yes.
/r/MensRights23/05/20 05:16 AM
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It depends. Women have significantly lower upper body strength, so if both genders require 28 pushups, the woman is going to need to have considerably more strength endurance than the man were they both to meet the requirement. For men, completing 28 pushups just requires you to not be obese. A woman would have to undertake some considerable training to hit that number. The rep target isn't important. It's an arbitrary measure of fitness. If the case is that a similar level of fitness is require…
/r/MensRights23/05/20 05:12 AM
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This is my issue with the MensLib approach to men's issues. Imagine a male and a female athlete lined up at the start of a 400m hurdle event. The feminist approach to equality is to remove the woman's hurdles, perhaps placing a percentage of them in the man's lane. The MensLib approach to men's issues is to just tell the man to try harder.
/r/MensRights23/05/20 03:09 AM
1

So why is the feminist narrative that rape and sexual assault is solely a women's issue?
/r/MensRights23/05/20 02:32 AM
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Modern feminism is a pipeline to misandry. If young women are constantly being told that men are responsible for all of their problems, is it any wonder why they eventually end up hating them.
/r/MensRights23/05/20 02:17 AM
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There are feminist subs like r/menslib that deal in mens issues. You aren't allowed to post about women's rights there. And yet, here you are off-loading your own insecurities onto the men of that sub. Men who routinely post about how they're tired of being viewed by women as threats. Their experiences don't matter though, right? As long as your needs are met.
/r/MensRights23/05/20 01:46 AM
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This is an example of how patriarchy theory doesn't translate to reality. Men are privileged because the umbrella class "men" has more members in positions of power than the umbrella class "women". In reality, the other 99% of men receive no benefit from this, especially when the men in these positions prioritize solving women's issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/20 12:42 AM
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Next level hamstering. "Feminists can't solve men's issues because reddit subs like r/mensrights hate us". LMFAO!
/r/MensRights23/05/20 12:07 AM
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Feminists: "Feminism helps men too. If men really want to solve men's issues they'd be feminists". MRA: "Great! How are feminists helping men?". Feminist: "...Err ...Hey, look over there!". runs
/r/MensRights22/05/20 11:59 PM
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I've gotta say, I've been active in feminism for almost 20 years and outside of TERF and SWERF groups I have yet to meet a feminist who believes or stated feminism shouldn't help men. There is no way to prevent feminism helping men. Eliminating patriarchy helps everyone. Ironically, this was posted by the same feminist who was telling the men of Menslib to "Man up", when they were discussing the implications of #MenAreTrash.
/r/MensRights22/05/20 10:10 PM
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Are you serious?
/r/MensRights22/05/20 09:51 PM
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The gender most at risk of death seems to get the bulk of the funding on a particular issue. That's why men have vastly more support than women when it comes to mental hea.. ..Oh, wait..
/r/MensRights21/05/20 07:25 PM
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Just to be clear, by "low-effort rage-bait" I'm talking about a screenshot of a TwoX or FDS circle-jerk, or some idiot's #KillAllMen tweet posted here under some click-bait title like "I can't even..", or "They're not even hiding it!". There's no discussion to be had other than "Yes, that person is horrible", followed by "I concur".
/r/MensRights20/05/20 01:37 AM
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It isn't. Men were expected to produce heirs. Having multiple wives / concubines was a sign of power. Power is directly connected to masculinity. It didn't originate with women or feminism, although modern feminists labelling every man they dislike an "incel" definitely enforces the gender role.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 01:17 AM
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It comes from the expected male gender role. It predates feminism, but is enforced by women as well as men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 12:15 AM
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LMFAO @ that intro. Whether you're MGTOWWW, Cis Maaaalle, Cuck-mangina, or whiteknight-simp.
/r/MensRights20/05/20 12:00 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 07:41 PM
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Lol, what? No. I'm banned from every feminist sub, and every post of mine here is critical of feminism. You're just upset that your stupid opinion was called out.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 07:40 PM
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That idiot you're arguing with regularly posts in FemaleDatingStrategy. I wouldn't waste my time.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 10:18 AM
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Alternatively, you could always insist they stop enforcing toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 09:56 AM
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..way to completely miss the point.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 09:45 AM
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TIL - As far as important topics go, rape and the Palestinian militia are on par with that one thing that one woman said that one time.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 09:43 AM
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That's textbook false equivalence. There's a difference between reporting on rape and posting a misandric tweet from some nobody you happened across on twitter.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 06:36 AM
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..yes, you just described rage-bait.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 05:35 AM
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Jesus Christ! The PinkPillFeminism cross-post of this is just proving that woman's point.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 05:29 AM
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I'm not sure how a woman curious about feminism could participate in subs like r/feminism or r/AskFeminists and not come away feeling like the entire world is stacked against them. Those subs teach women to see themselves as victims.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 05:23 AM
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As an example, there was a thread posted 9 hours ago that linked a study explaining the long-term psychological effects of circumcision. - 10 upvotes. 0 comments. Some rage-bait in the form of a tweet by some random woman on the otherhand..
/r/MensRights18/05/20 03:41 AM
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I agree that there does seem to be an awful lot of low effort rage-bait posted here.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 03:32 AM
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So to combat women being put at disadvantage by allowing trans athletes to compete, you're proposing that we put them at an even greater disadvantage by forcing them to compete with men. Do I have that right?
/r/MensRights18/05/20 03:21 AM
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Because sports aren't traditionally segregated by gender. They're segregated by biological sex.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 03:06 AM
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Feminism =/= women though. Why disadvantage all women to settle a score with feminism?
/r/MensRights18/05/20 03:01 AM
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Take away gendered sports.. Nah.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 02:50 AM
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Capitalism is too reliant on male labour for this to happen.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 12:35 AM
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I almost wish someone would create a "Titania McGrath" type account to post comments like that in feminist subs just to see what the reaction would be. They'd probably be made a mod.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 12:26 AM
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I'm just unconvinced that viewing men's issues through the feminist lens of "male oppressor, female victim" is useful. It only serves to steer the conversation back to discussing women's issues because feminist ideology views most men's issues as stemming from toxic masculinity, which stems from masculinity being valued over femininity by society, which stems from misogyny. Therefore, men's issues can be solved by tackling women's issues. Yet we know this to be false.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 12:01 AM
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It sure is.
/r/MensRights17/05/20 10:50 PM
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I'm not sure credibility is even a priority at this point.
/r/MensRights17/05/20 09:58 PM
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Just like how there's an undercurrent of misandry that runs through every feminist sub, there's an undercurrent of internalised misandry that runs through MensLib. I'm not sure how any man could regularly participate on that sub without starting to feel some sort of animus toward their own gender.
/r/MensRights17/05/20 09:45 PM
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This is an infographic for a survey aimed specifically at journalists, but I love how even the foundation that conducted the survey itself cherry-picked the one stat that affected women more (stress) to headline their piece.
/r/MensRights17/05/20 09:23 PM
3

Lol, you're not far off with that mental health comment. Men's mental health gets significantly more attention than women's just due to the fact that men commit more atrocities like mass-shootings.
/r/MensRights17/05/20 09:01 PM
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"That's just toxic masculinity".
/r/MensRights17/05/20 08:36 PM
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"We expected to find misogyny, but we didn't. This is most likely due to misogyny".
/r/MensRights17/05/20 08:33 PM
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That's like saying "Historically, women have been exluded from the military because last week a women joined and she was terrible". It's the kind of argument a child would make. You make it hard to respect your opinions when they're so terribly misinformed.
/r/MensRights17/05/20 08:08 PM
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Yeah, it's pretty telling that they use specific language when dealing with how these issues affect women. Toxic Femininity is rarely used, but they're careful to differentiate between Misogyny and Internalised Misogyny. However, when talking about men they're deliberately vague, and tend to lump all three concepts under the one term; incidentally the one term that's prone to being misunderstood, misapplied, and used in contexts where it's usage is more harmful than helpful. I see Toxic Masculin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/20 07:50 PM
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Even if the layout didn't look as though you were trying to cram as much random shit into each frame as poorly as possible, the rebuttals are idiotic. A history of poor media representation is due to the handful of Mary Sue characters that have been pushed recently? Lmfao!
/r/MensRights17/05/20 07:24 PM
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Feminism doesn't really want to "smash the patriarchy", otherwise they'd be advocating for men's rights aswell. They want to get rid of the ways it harms women while maintaining the benefits it affords them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/20 08:24 AM
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Yeah, like we're going to listen to someone who describes blatant misandry as "righteous anger". Lol, on your way now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/20 12:38 AM
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Agreed. There still seems to be a thread of hyperagency running through this more charitable concept of toxic masculinity that doesn't seem to exist when discussing society's influence on women's behaviour.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/20 12:21 AM
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That's the difference between men's and women's advocacy. Women don't have to defy their gender role to highlight their grievances. Men do, so there's a greater societal resistance to overcome.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/20 11:51 PM
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I think any progress in the areas you mentioned will probably come as a result of groups advocating solely for those issues, not from a MRM type movement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/20 10:56 PM
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Does anyone know of a sub that's women only? "Because while this echo chamber is pretty good, I'm still being exposed to a disgusting male opinion here and there". Fucking eyeroll..
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/20 10:45 PM
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I'm not sure I agree with this. Toxic masculinity doesn't just refer to demonstrated behaviour, it refers to the root cause of that behaviour; the fact that society enforces it. Stoicism is a traditionally masculine trait, and while "toxic levels of stoicism" definitely harms men, men don't exhibit this behaviour for the fuck of it. It's conditioned and reinforced through pervasive misandric ideas than run deep within society. Simply adding "levels" seems to place the focus solely on the behavio…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/20 10:36 PM
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This proves that feminist advocacy for ending conscription was a dishonest position. It was nothing more than a way to oppose female conscription while maintaining the appearance of pushing for equality because for many countries, conscription is a necessity. Men, atleast, will always be subject to it. They were advocating for a hopelessly idealistic goal, because their true goal would be seen as overtly discriminatory. Now, because conscription is in many places necessary, and the obvious move …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/20 10:19 PM
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It's a silencing tactic. Equate "criticising feminism" with "criticising women" to imply your opponent is sexist. That way they have to abandon their argument and instead focus on disputing the assertion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/20 08:26 PM
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Further down the thread people are arguing that most of them are caused by toxic masculinity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/20 04:34 AM
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She's arguing in bad faith. u/Alataire brought up parental leave and she just handwaved it away because "women have it so much worse".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 08:11 AM
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I said men deny that this is happening, which you just did.. What? No, I didn't. Personally, I don't care about losing the kind of advocate that responds to every men's issue with a fallacy of relative privation argument.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 08:03 AM
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What are feminists doing to address this. Seems like it'd be their domain, no?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 07:55 AM
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Not being a feminist ally. Fuck off..
/r/MensRights14/05/20 05:20 AM
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Women being promiscuous defies their gender role. Men being promiscuous doesn't. When you take this into account, the male equivalent of "slut" is "virgin", or "incel"; terms that feminists love to use to shame men who disagree with them. You have to wonder, if feminists find male promiscuity so toxic, why is it common among their circles to use insults that imply the target doesn't demonstrate that behaviour?
/r/MensRights14/05/20 05:18 AM
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That user's post history is riddled with anti-male sentiment.
/r/MensRights14/05/20 01:21 AM
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You're begging the question. You're pretty much arguing that they're invisible because they're invisible.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/20 07:32 PM
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It's a system of ideas and relationships. Women enforce it as much as men do.
/r/MensRights12/05/20 10:21 AM
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I wouldn't say women created it. They contribute to it more than feminists admit though.
/r/MensRights12/05/20 10:12 AM
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They're invisible because they pass better. Your reasoning is completely circular.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/20 09:08 AM
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Criminality is gendered by society as masculine. You only need to look at the sentencing gap to conclude that this type of "masculine" behaviour is tolerated more when women demonstrate it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/20 09:03 AM
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It depends on the branch. Radical feminism views the patriarchy as a system in which men dominate and oppress women. They don't view men as victims at all. Intersectional feminism does, but only along the axes of class, race, sexuality etc. They don't view men as victims based solely on their gender.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/20 08:16 AM
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White feminists downplaying men's issues because "women have it worse", but then getting all pissy when black women downplay theirs is delicious.
/r/MensRights12/05/20 03:08 AM
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That's good to see. Meanwhile in New Zealand
/r/MensRights12/05/20 02:17 AM
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..transgender issues an ideology which is misandric ..Lol, what!?
/r/MensRights12/05/20 02:07 AM
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In NZ right now, there's a commercial running on TV for Pet Refuge, a service that deals with pets affected by domestic violence.. Pets! No mention of a male focussed service though.
/r/MensRights12/05/20 01:22 AM
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The funny thing is, as much as feminists harp on about how we need to work toward breaking down toxic masculinity, their apathy toward men's issues just enforces it.
/r/MensRights12/05/20 01:17 AM
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Feminist are trying to break down this toxic masculinity so men can feel more comfortable coming forward. Go into any feminist sub where they're discussing sexual assault and tell them you're a man who was sexually assaulted by a woman. You'll be pounced on for "derailing the conversation", despite the fact that they constantly preach that "a victim is a victim regardless of gender". That isn't "breaking down toxic masculinity", it's enforcing it. Hell, even when men discuss their experiences of…
/r/MensRights12/05/20 01:10 AM
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It's rampant. Everything is viewed through the lens of "Male oppressor, female victim", so any discussion of any issue affecting men that views them charitably is out of the question. Take "manspreading", and it's female equivalent (whatever term is used to describe women taking up a spare seat with their belongings) for example. Do men sit with their legs spread to accommodate a particular part of their anatomy? Oh No. MeN aRe OpPrEsSoRs AnD tAkInG uP sPaCe AsSeRtS dOmInAnCe. Do women do it for…
/r/MensRights09/05/20 10:24 PM
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Stop being a misogynist! Sharing personal issues with female friends is unpaid emotional labour! /s
/r/MensRights09/05/20 10:05 PM
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This was posted to r/feminism by one of their more overtly misandric members where she criticised indian men for spending a "paltry" 52 minutes a day doing unpaid labour. What she conveniently left out was the fact that only around 25% of indian women are employed while the average indian man works more than 60 hours a week.
/r/MensRights09/05/20 09:46 PM
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Here.
/r/MensRights09/05/20 09:21 PM
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Pretty much. Women's issues get solved by implementing social change. Men's issues get a "toxic masculinity" stamp which just places the onus back on the individual.
/r/MensRights09/05/20 08:28 PM
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The inverse is true regarding women. Women attempting suicide more, but dying less is explained as: "Women choose methods that aren't as lethal because they care about the person who'd find them". Rather than: "Women make more false attempts".
/r/MensRights02/05/20 08:11 PM
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Funnily enough, r/MensLib was started by regular contributors of that sub.
/r/MensRights02/05/20 09:05 AM
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Lol, peak MensLib.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 01:54 AM
5

Wait.. so did anyone actually physically slap anyone's butt? Or was it a fictional slapping?
/r/MensRights26/04/20 01:46 AM
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What the actual fuck? From that thread: Feminists: "Men are trash". MensLib: "Th-that generalisation makes me feel some kinda way". Feminists: "So? Not our problem. Stop expecting us to take on your emotional labour".
/r/MensRights26/04/20 01:30 AM
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That's how I read it. "Claiming men can be raped hurts female rape victims".
/r/MensRights24/04/20 04:35 AM
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I don't like the term "toxic masculinity", but the two are different things. That said, a lot of what feminists label "internalised misogyny", isn't.
/r/MensRights21/04/20 04:12 AM
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It sounds like the person you're replying to has learnt everything he knows about women from from the MGTOW sub.
/r/MensRights20/04/20 06:42 AM
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Lol, there's a post on AskFeminists right now arguing that physical strength differences between men and women are due to gendered upbringings, rather than biology. I shit you not.
/r/MensRights18/04/20 09:49 PM
1

Oh, is that what he meant? He made no mention of age so I presumed he just meant regular physical checkups.
/r/MensRights18/04/20 03:38 AM
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Especially considering men are immensely more likely to be assaulted or killed. Yeah, by other men! /s
/r/MensRights18/04/20 03:13 AM
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IKR, and yet when I accidentally have sex with a female I'm labelled a rapist.
/r/MensRights18/04/20 02:42 AM
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My favourite is: "Men don't understand how unsafe we feel walking alone at night". Because apparently every man is John Wick.
/r/MensRights18/04/20 01:24 AM
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I have a feeling this sort of thinking is why most women don't identify as feminist. The average woman going about the daily grind alongside the men couldn't give a fuck how many female CEOs there are.
/r/MensRights18/04/20 12:52 AM
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This was my thinking. Is the OP trying to claim victim status over this?
/r/MensRights17/04/20 08:50 AM
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?
/r/MensRights17/04/20 08:44 AM
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This really seems like a non-issue.
/r/MensRights17/04/20 06:21 AM
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This is not reflective of my experience with women. It seems like some TRP worst case scenario.
/r/MensRights17/04/20 06:13 AM
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This is exactly my point aswell. "If men who desire consensual sex with women aren't considered potential rapists, then people who desire child rape shouldn't be considered potential child abusers". It's a fucking stupid argument and I'm not sure why the OP can't see it.
/r/MensRights17/04/20 05:27 AM
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We'll have to agree to disagree, and it isn't hypocrisy. That isn't what that word means.
/r/MensRights17/04/20 05:07 AM
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Too bad the person you were replying to deleted their comment. I'm guessing they were trying to claim that female perpetrators were only responsible for .01% of sexual assaults or something?
/r/MensRights17/04/20 12:52 AM
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I think the main problem I have with feminists is that they treat equality like a zero-sum game. If they didn't, they'd support any group that advocated for men's rights. This isn't the case though. They claim that they advocate for the equality of all genders, but in reality this largely boils down to actively trying to address women's issues while merely paying lip service to men's. Feminist ideology is too narrow a lens to adequately address the issues faced by men. Most issues that affect me…
/r/MensRights17/04/20 12:36 AM
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There's no need for revenge. That's still reinforcing the unhealthy idea that rejection is a threat to your masculinity and must be atoned for. It shouldn't be. I'm more of the belief that rejection should be handled like: "Huh, she said No. Oh, well. It was worth a shot". Rather than: "Huh, she said No. Fucking bitch! Time for a vendetta".
/r/MensRights17/04/20 12:21 AM
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No, it shouldn't, but that's the fickle nature of masculinity.
/r/MensRights17/04/20 12:09 AM
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Men have confidence issues because unlike femininity, masculinity is earned, and rejection erodes it.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 11:58 PM
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This is correct. There's some heavy gatekeeping going on there though. Outsiders usually have top-level comments removed even if they reflect a feminist perspective, while their regular users are free to post all manner of tone-deaf garbage.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 11:38 PM
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Your claim of hypocrisy isn't valid because it's based on a flawed premise; that "all men are potential rapists" and "all pedophiles are potential child abusers" are equivalent statements. They're not.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 11:23 PM
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No, I just don't have any desire to hurt people. I'm not playing games, I answered both of your questions.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 03:24 PM
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The same thing that stops me committing murders. No. You're still forgetting that sex workers exist and to a lesser degree, porn.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 02:58 PM
3

I think that's why I was hesitant to answer the second question with a flat out "No".
/r/MensRights16/04/20 02:33 PM
0

I realise you think this is a great "gotcha" question, but it isn't. Your argument is false equivalence; a logical fallacy. "All men are potential rapists" isn't the same as "All pedophiles are potential child abusers" because consensual sex exists, whereas it's impossible for a pedophile to indulge their sexual impulses without committing a crime. "All pedophiles are potential child abusers" is closer to saying "Anyone who has suicidal ideation is a potential suicide victim".
/r/MensRights16/04/20 02:31 PM
74

Haha, I tried so hard to keep a straight face while typing that. Still, if AskFeminist users are upset at the conversations being had on MensLib, it says everything you need to know about them.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 01:41 PM
1

Good, good.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 01:36 PM
6

I only bring it up because your history indicates you've repeatedly argued for the destigmatization of pedophilia on different subs for atleast the past year. Pedophiles that haven't abused children aren't "child rapists", but if someone is outed as a pedophile, it probably isn't because it's written on their business card.. if you catch my drift.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 01:17 PM
2

I didn't say that. Read my post properly. It's literally the second sentence.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 01:03 PM
4

So.. what you're trying to say is that.. you're a pedophile?
/r/MensRights16/04/20 01:02 PM
3

What? Judging by his post history he posted here twice. Both over a year ago. By that standard, he's also r/Libertarian and r/Buddhism 's "boy".
/r/MensRights16/04/20 12:41 PM
212

Yep. They were upset that a few male victims were identifying their perpetrators as female in a thread on MensLib. Apparently men aren't even allowed to have honest conversations in their own spaces.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 11:54 AM
9

The zero-sum fallacy. Incidentally, a lot of the time the majority gets ignored. Especially if the majority are men.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 11:47 AM
2

It's a little different than racism. Can an individual act racist toward a white person? Yes. Is society institutionally racist toward white people? Not really. Can an individual act sexist toward men? Yes. Is society institutionally sexist toward men? Yes. Feminists will deceptively label this "unintended consequences of the patriarchy", or that "the patriarchy hurts men too", but the result is the same. Men receive longer sentences for the same crime. Men in childcare or teaching positions are…
/r/MensRights16/04/20 10:53 AM
43

Funnily enough, someone tried to make that point on AskFeminists recently and received this as a reply.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 10:32 AM
130

You can't go to that sub and ask any question that might imply that men may not have it as easy as they think. Every issue is viewed through the lens of "Women are the victims" and "Women have it worse". Perpetrators of domestic violence beginning to equalise? Better shift the focus to deaths from domestic violence. Male deaths from suicide higher than that of women? Better shift the focus to suicide attempts.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 10:29 AM
18

Ah, yeah. That sub is a joke. They'll remove posts from people who are active on GenderCritical, PinkPillFeminism, or FDS, but those that toe the party line long enough to be seen as regulars can get away with posting whatever they want.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 09:48 AM
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Feminists: Gender is irrelevant. A victim is a victim. Male rape victim: Oh, that's a relief. I was raped by a woman and I was worried tha.. Feminists: STOP DERAILING THE CONVERSATION!.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 09:39 AM
36

I always thought "cattiness" was rooted in sexual competition, not some "monkey see, monkey do" phenomenon borne from exposure to daytime TV. What an incredibly stupid take. Which sub is this from?
/r/MensRights16/04/20 09:35 AM
3

That's your advice for a man being sexually harassed? "Man up"? Jesus Christ, dude..
/r/MensRights16/04/20 09:28 AM
1

Most of New Zealand's deaths were due to a transmission cluster at an aged care facility. Elderly residents with underlying conditions.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 09:08 AM
15

It's obviously due to empowered women fighting back against male perpetrators.. Duh. /s
/r/MensRights16/04/20 05:38 AM
46

Check out this Askfeminists thread regarding the issue. The OP asks whether a discussion of the allegations should take place and almost every one of the replies attempts to tip toe around the question.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 04:40 AM
1

They shift the goalpost once you bring up those subs. "Reddit is SO misogynistic. MRA's, TRP, Incels, MGTOW." "What about PinkPillFeminism, GenderCritical, and FemaleDatingStrategy?" "Well.. um.. incels commit more mass shootings so HA!".
/r/MensRights12/04/20 09:20 PM
0

No it doesn't. It states pretty clearly that males can still be raped. You're shifting the goalpost.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 07:41 PM
1

Even if that were true, which it isn't (males can be raped according to #2), it's irrelevant seeing as how rape isn't an official charge. Both male and female perpetrators are charged with the same crime here.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 01:09 PM
3

What? No. You're misunderstanding. Both male-on-female and female-on-male rapes are charged as the same crime; Sexual Violation.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 01:02 PM
2

Like I said earlier, it worked here in NZ. The law was changed way back in 2005. "Rape" isn't an official charge anymore. The traditional act of rape (forced penetration), as well as being forced to penetrate, along with other sexual offenses are all part of a new category; Sexual Violation. The law is gender neutral.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 12:58 PM
1

"Abortion is killing babies" is a false premise.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 12:50 PM
2

That's dishonest. You're cherry picking one example from everything that is classed as Sexual Violation. You're also forgetting that Person B can be male. I live here. I know the law as it relates to sexual crime. It's gender neutral.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 12:46 PM
1

What? That's made irrelevant by #3. Rape perpetrated by either gender is classed as Sexual Violation. The law is therefore gender neutral.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 12:42 PM
2

I abandoned the argument once I saw his post history. The dude has issues.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 08:41 AM
5

To me, toxic masculinity refers to the rigid gender role men are expected to conform to. Failure to adhere to this role usually results in men losing their social standing. As a term, it's rarely used productively.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 08:24 AM
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Here in New Zealand, "rape" as you refer to it is a crime under the umbrella term Sexual Violation. It covers male-on-female, female-on-male, and same sex offenses.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 08:18 AM
1

If you're arguing for immoral acts being made illegal, who acts as the arbiter of morality? It's subjective.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 04:39 AM
3

You're quite wrong here. That image is outdated. That law was replaced in 2005. Here is the current revision. It lists MF, FM, MM, and FF rape under the same offense; Sexual Violation.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 03:23 AM
1

Female, but that image is outdated. It was replaced in 2005. Here is the current revision. It lists MF, FM, MM, and FF rape under the same offense; Sexual Violation. The OP is wrong.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 03:22 AM
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That sub blames most of men's issues on the gender role men are forced into by the patriarchy and that feminism aims to help solve this. By working toward liberating women from their hegemonic role in society, men would also be liberated from theirs, if only as a knock-on effect. Yet, unlike the gender role for women which has been significantly relaxed, the male role is as rigid as ever. Their whole philosophy is flawed.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 03:09 AM
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It's one of the major problems with this sub.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 02:51 AM
1

Could've fooled me. Why? Because I disagreed with you? Why do women deserve more/better than men? That's a leading question. I never said that. They don't, but the solution to that inequality is bringing the support men receive up to that of women. Your course of action seems overly focused on some twisted sense of vengeance rather than actually helping men. How would you work toward lowering the disparity in homicides? Kill more women? We're getting nowhere here. I'm out.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 02:43 AM
2

Lol, there are so many responses along the lines of "Raising men's issues is fine.. as long as people don't forget that women have it worse". That sub tries so hard to distance itself from GenderCritical and PinkPillFeminism, but it's just as bad. Atleast those subs are honest about their beliefs. Just look at this reply. Any excuse to detract from the issue with a hearty dose of "men bad".
/r/MensRights12/04/20 02:32 AM
2

I'm not a "dudette", and your argument is a classic motte and bailey. Your original argument was that they should move out, seek shelter, or live on the streets because that's what men have to do. Instead of achieving equality by offering men the same support as women, you prefer to strip women of the support they currently get. Why build men up, when you can just tear women down, right? I mean, men and women both lose, but hey, atleast it's even. It's just a negative way of thinking.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 02:25 AM
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It isn't. How you're going about it is. Instead of offering a solution to a problem that affects men, you'd rather just tear women down. Sure, the playing field is now even, but the problem is still there. You're speaking from a place of bitterness and resentment, my dude.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 02:00 AM
-1

You consider equally negative treatment a win? That approach helps no one.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 01:47 AM
-2

This is a pretty disgusting mindset.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 01:31 AM
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There was an Australian politician that said that women were the most affected because they made up the majority of frontline workers. Funny how now that the fields dominated by women are right now considered dangerous, workplace safety is all of a sudden a priority.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 01:27 AM
8

It's a flawed argument, similar to the wage-gap. Strip away all nuance and conclude that the contributing variable is solely gender.
/r/MensRights11/04/20 07:24 AM
2

She was agreeing with you, but you interpreted her response as an argument and challenged it.
/r/MensRights11/04/20 07:19 AM
4

It isn't. My partner's been a nurse for over 10 years here in NZ. She makes close to 90k a year, and that's without the penal rates for weekend, night, or double shifts.
/r/MensRights10/04/20 08:37 AM
10

The experiments were junk, but it was meant to be entertaining rather than scientific. It was obvious the experiments were skewed to prove a predetermined result. Having said that, I rolled my eyes during the gender professor's take at the end of each experiment in the episode you're referring to. Any experiment women did worse in was due to oppressive societal influence, while any experiment men did worse in was due to women just being better. The episode where the subjects were grouped by age …
/r/MensRights06/04/20 12:28 PM
3

Exactly right.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 02:50 AM
8

Also one has to keep in mind not all men are socialised to use physicality, strength, or violence as a solution. This is something that rarely gets mentioned. We often hear "I can't fight back because if I did, I'd be the one arrested", but no one ever mentions the fact that some men just don't want to engage in violence, regardless of circumstance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 12:31 AM
4

They do. I've always held that sub to a higher standard than the trash fires like PPF and GC. It's quite rare that you'll encounter the type of overt misandry that runs rampant on the latter two, but Jesus.. Their reaction to that post really does show that even in the more reasonable feminist subs, the anti-male sentiment still only lies just beneath the surface.
/r/MensRights07/02/20 08:36 AM
7

Oh. This stuff is pretty common knowledge over at r/MensLib. We discuss the real issues over there. /s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/20 08:01 AM
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No, they wouldn't. There'd be a complex discussion on toxic masculinity, and how domestic violence wouldn't be such an issue if we all just painted our toenails, took up cross-stitch, and cried once in a while.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/20 04:22 AM
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They do acknowledge it. They just call it "benevolent sexism". Remember kids, even when men are victims, women are the real victims.
/r/MensRights07/02/20 03:59 AM
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There was this thread from a few days ago on r/AskFeminists. It was locked after people started to call out their users' general defensiveness over the issue. One of the mods banned a guy who was told by one of their users he "was too emotional to have a valid opinion" on the matter after he admitted to being a victim of DV. The entire thread exposes the anti-male bias over there.
/r/MensRights07/02/20 01:39 AM
4

Chill, it's satire.
/r/MensRights06/02/20 10:23 PM
2

Lol, check his r/relationship_advice post history. He's a delusional white knight.
/r/MensRights06/02/20 08:28 PM
3

By "MensLib-style" do you mean acknowledging that men have issues, but still putting the impetus for solving these issues solely on them, rather than society at large?
/r/MensRights06/02/20 07:55 PM
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So, while feminists may give lip service to these issues, they never do anything about it. Instead, they hide behind things like "toxic masculinity", "men harming men", and "the patriarchy harming men" as an excuse to brush these issues aside. Their insistence on misrepresenting statistics in order to gender an issue that affects men and women is even worse than merely hand-waving away men's issues. I see this happen constantly on r/feminism and r/AskFeminists. Someone will ask a question regard…
/r/MensRights06/02/20 07:38 PM
2

Oh, for sure. I read that thread. It's a great example of the underlying anti-male sentiment that they try to hide over there at that sub. They can't handwave this particular instance of hypocritical victim-blaming away as "Oh, but YeahMaybe isn't a true feminist" either. Their mods remove any top-level comment that doesn't represent a feminist viewpoint and that and many other comments defending Amber Heard are still up.
/r/MensRights04/02/20 03:18 AM
3

The funny thing is, r/AskFeminists, the sub notorious for employing the no true Scotsman defense whenever they're faced with evidence of misandry within feminism, also have a heavily policed sub rule in which all top-level comments must be from actual feminists and represent an actual feminist viewpoint. So, you can be sure that the sub wholeheartedly endorses the opinion of that particular poster. That Johnny Depp, despite evidence to the contrary, is still the abuser.
/r/MensRights03/02/20 11:06 PM
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Pretty much. One poster there is arguing that Amber can't be the abuser because that requires a level of power and control that she didn't have.. ..or, in other words "AmBeR nOt ReSpOnSiBlE cOs PaTrIaRcHy".
/r/MensRights03/02/20 10:52 PM
2

The users over at AskFeminists still do. There's a thread there now. Just because she admits to hitting him, doesn't mean he wasn't the abuser. It's pathetic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/20 08:45 PM
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Figures. There's also a thread on AskFeminists where they're defending her with some ridiculous "Just because she was violent, doesn't mean he wasn't the abuser" argument.
/r/MensRights03/02/20 08:28 PM
8

It demonizes men by implying that women only exhibit those behaviours because they've been conditioned by the patriarchy, that women who act horribly toward other women are still victims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/20 02:49 AM
2

No, no. I was replying to u/6data, not you. The thread's locked. I'm not sure why you were banned though. You can't exactly brigade a locked thread.
/r/MensRights24/01/20 03:51 AM
0

No, it isn't.
/r/MensRights23/01/20 02:39 AM
3

Had a quick look and I'm just not seeing it. Every post highlighting some inequality men face is heavily upvoted.
/r/MensRights19/01/20 03:25 AM
1

This would depend on the compliment. You may have a point if you were talking about compliments based on appearance. I'm having a hard time accepting that many men interpret "Great job solving that problem" as an indication of romantic interest though.
/r/MensRights19/01/20 02:32 AM
5

Are you confusing r/unpopularopinion with r/AmItheAsshole? The former doesn't seem particularly anti-male at all.
/r/MensRights19/01/20 12:47 AM
3

You know, using feminist logic, one could actually argue that this is in fact an example of "toxic masculinity". Men are socialised to protect others even if it endangers their lives. Those that don't are branded "cowards". Funny how they never mention this when they harp on about it though.. I wonder why?
/r/MensRights18/01/20 10:04 PM
8

A while ago, this post appeared on MensLib. In the comments, men shared their experiences dealing with the aftermath of sexual assault, often times perpetrated by women. Not long after, and as a direct reaction, this heavily upvoted post appeared on AskFeminists, a sub viewed by it's users as the paragon of equality. The OP, a regular AskFeminists user, was upset because a lot of people sharing their stories in the MensLib post identified their attackers as women, and that didn't fit her male pe…
/r/MensRights17/01/20 10:42 PM
9

It'd be interesting to see that subs response if someone posted that they were expecting twins; a boy and a girl, and had decided on "circumcising" them both.
/r/MensRights10/01/20 09:58 PM
1

WTF is this?
/r/MensRights03/01/20 08:40 AM
37

"The patriarchy also harms men". Wow, so you mean men are oppressed too? "No. Only women are oppressed". ..but, you just..
/r/MensRights01/01/20 09:40 AM
2

Haha, I do see your point. Maybe I'm just an optimist. It is one step forward, three steps back over there though. Once in a while I'll see a post there that makes an interesting point. The next day I'll see this shit. I can certainly see why the feminist subs approve of it's existence - most topics there are about how men can be better.
/r/MensRights01/01/20 01:48 AM
2

I don't understand why they prioritize placating feminists over discussing mens issues. Even when they do, it's never enough. A while ago, this post appeared on MensLib. In the comments, people shared their experiences dealing with the aftermath of sexual assault. Not long after, this post appeared on AskFeminists. The OP was upset because a lot of people sharing their stories in the MensLib post identified their attackers as women, and that didn't fit her male perpetrator, female victim worldvi…
/r/MensRights01/01/20 01:32 AM
3

I really want to like that sub, but I can't help feeling they're so reliant on the approval of feminists to be seen as a "legitimate" men's issues sub that they're practically under their thumb and thus certain topics, even if they pertain to men's issues, are off-limits. There was a post discussing the concept of internalised misandry, specically regarding parenting. There were a lot of replies worried that the use of the term "misandry" would upset users of the major feminist subs. I'm reading…
/r/MensRights01/01/20 12:22 AM
1

Lol, your "reasoned argument" was literally just you ignoring my original point in lieu of shutting down any further discussion by labelling arbitrary terms "hate speech", and branding me a "feminist troll" for disagreeing with you. I'm not a feminist; I've been banned from every major feminist sub here for disagreeing with their rhetoric.
/r/MensRights31/12/19 10:47 PM
1

Do you explain to gay, lesbian, trans people that the offending slur has a redeeming disingenuous meaning that makes it OK to offend people? Funnily enough, it's you who's being disingenuous by claiming toxic masculinity is feminist hate speech. The term was coined by the Mythopoetic Men's Movement and most men, myself included, have experienced it first hand. Which "anti-male" article are you refering to? The only thing I linked was a MensLib post that argues for the existence of internalised m…
/r/MensRights31/12/19 03:30 AM
0

This victim was never protected. From the first instance, she was raped again and again by the press, by society, and the legal system. This was said by one of the women's rights activists present at the protest. Funny how when this point is brought up about falsely accused men it is simply handwaved away.
/r/MensRights30/12/19 06:49 PM
1

Sure, bud. Just throw a tantrum and then abandon the discussion. Why even reply to me if you're unwilling to contribute? You could have just ignored my comment.
/r/MensRights30/12/19 06:29 PM
2

You're right. Maybe "equally" was the wrong word to use.
/r/MensRights30/12/19 01:32 AM
2

The main issue I have with the toxic masculinity discussion is that too often feminists seem overly focused on the behaviour itself and not the underlying cause. Masculinity is inexorably tied to status, and thus society rewards men for expressing their masculinity a certain way, but that aspect is usually glossed over, perhaps because it implies that women are equally responsible for it. Their stance on internalised misogyny is equally confusing. Ask a feminist what it's called when men police …
/r/MensRights30/12/19 01:04 AM
2

Don't get me wrong. Feminism is full of hypocrisy and double standards, but these "If masculinity is so toxic, then why is this man doing this" posts are pretty stupid. No one is saying all masculinity is toxic. That isn't what toxic masculinity means.
/r/MensRights29/12/19 11:48 PM
-1

Lol, don't bother. Most here don't care what the actual definition is, they just want to whine about the name.
/r/MensRights29/12/19 06:37 AM
2

Lol, I'm on your side. I'm arguing about the existence of toxic femininity and feminists' refusal to acknowledge the concept, but instead of engaging in an informed discussion, you focused on a single, arbitrary term in my entire reply. I'm male. It isn't offensive if you understand it's meaning. Are you always this obtuse? Do you also believe the term "racism" is offensive to white people?
/r/MensRights29/12/19 05:34 AM
0

I'm not a feminist, but I believe it's one of the base arguments they use to explain the discrepancy in women pursuing male-dominated occupations; That they're socialised not to pursue certain careers because those jobs aren't for women. Internalising these views can, over time, lead to the belief that "I can't do that because I'm a woman". One topic that gets brought up a lot, especially on Men's Lib, is parenting. This post in particular explains the link between toxic masculinity and internal…
/r/MensRights28/12/19 11:23 PM
7

Pretty much. While I agree that internalised misogyny, as well as internalised misandry are real phenomena. Too many behaviours that parallel those labelled toxic masculinity are wrongly defined by feminists as internalised misogyny instead of toxic femininity. A woman feeling pressured not to pursue a typically male interest because she buys into the traditionalist narrative that women are terrible at it? Internalised misogyny. A woman policing another woman on her interests, expression or atti…
/r/MensRights28/12/19 10:53 PM
1

No, this is the literal equivalent of posting a video of a white person helping a black homeless person with the sarcastic title "Racism strikes again", as if the term racism is meant to imply that every white person is racist. It's ridiculous, but don't let common sense distract you from your victimhood party. Keep knocking down those strawmen, my dude.
/r/MensRights28/12/19 10:28 PM
0

That cross-post is titled What's something your current partner does that a previous partner did not? The comments are full of people exchanging stories, not circle-jerking over the tweet.
/r/MensRights28/12/19 08:08 PM
0

I was wondering that too. This sub actually parallels it's feminist counterparts in that some people here are so desperate to play the victim that they look for "injustices" everywhere.
/r/MensRights28/12/19 07:39 PM
3

There's a well-known regular on r/feminism who constantly argues that prostitution is oppression, but porn isn't. Anyone that disagrees is a "rape cheerleader", and they get triggered whenever someone refers to females in porn as stars instead of actresses. So, as far as prostitution is concerned, as long as you have your mate Dave agree to film it and put in on the internet, you're good.
/r/MensRights28/12/19 07:28 PM
1

Lol, you really beat the shit out of that strawman with your title.
/r/MensRights28/12/19 07:14 PM
6

TIL - Women bully other women for no other reason than that they hate women.
/r/MensRights28/12/19 07:05 PM
0

No. I see what you tried to do, but you're only highlighting your misunderstanding of the term. The only way your headline would make sense, even sarcastically, is if the term "toxic masculinity" meant that every male behaviour is toxic. It doesn't.
/r/MensRights28/12/19 07:01 PM
2

I was banned from r/feminism a few days ago for calling a post claiming that transwomen have no athletic advantage over cis women disingenuous. I was told it broke their "Informativity rule".
/r/MensRights26/12/19 10:59 PM
6

Wait, I'm confused. What does this have to do with toxic masculinity?
/r/MensRights26/12/19 10:53 PM
4

There was a post on r/AskFeminists recently asking whether women benefit at all under the patriarchy. A few of the responses mentioned the discrepancy in sentencing for similar crimes, yet one of their regular users was quick to point out that it wasn't actually a benefit because those "lighter sentences for female offenders" were actually the "standard" length. Men receiving harsher sentences was indicative of a bias against men, not a bias for women. Anything to avoid viewing women as anything…
/r/MensRights15/12/19 06:49 AM
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The hypocrisy there is pretty telling. There's a parallel to this. State to a feminist that women are underrepresented in STEM because they choose not to pursue those careers and they'll happily dive into nuanced explanations for this choice: Women are socialised not to want those jobs, workplace sexism turns them away, etc. Yet when asked why men rarely receive shared custody, they'll always reply with "because they don't apply for it". No further examination needed.
/r/MensRights13/12/19 09:11 PM
1

Lol, I'm absolutely certain the majority of posters in this thread will believe that.
/r/MensRights12/12/19 07:06 AM
1

This sub really is hit or miss.
/r/MensRights12/12/19 07:02 AM
1

Am I the only one that thinks this is more of a statement highlighting society's prejudiced view of the relationship between height and masculinity rather than a literal "must be this tall to ride" sign?
/r/MensRights12/12/19 06:04 AM
1

Which is.. what?
/r/MensRights12/12/19 04:19 AM
1

I'm not the person you asked to post. You're avoiding the question. You harp on about " BuT tOxIc FeMiNiNiTy HuRtS mEn ToO", and yet you can't even define what it is, let alone how it affects men.
/r/MensRights12/12/19 04:12 AM
0

Toxic masculinity refers to the socially destructive effect of normally neutral or positive masculine traits when taken to their unhealthy extremes. Strength becomes aggression, stoicism becomes emotional repression. Keeping that in mind, what does toxic femininity look like?
/r/MensRights12/12/19 02:28 AM
1

Funnily enough, I've seen it used incorrectly more often on this sub. Too many users here think it means masculinity is toxic as a whole. It doesn't. Just for argument's sake though, how would you define toxic femininity?
/r/MensRights12/12/19 01:57 AM
2

Sure, that doesn't mean toxic masculinity is any less real though. How would you define toxic femininity?
/r/MensRights12/12/19 01:08 AM
2

In practice it is though. No, it isn't.
/r/MensRights12/12/19 12:46 AM
3

This is one of my pet peeves with this sub. A lot of users here are deliberately obtuse when it comes to toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights12/12/19 12:43 AM
24

It's pinkpill feminism. Misandry central. You don't have a jew's chance in Auschwitz of starting a rational discussion there.
/r/MensRights23/11/19 06:01 AM
42

That sub is a dumpster fire. Why would you post there in the first place?
/r/MensRights23/11/19 05:10 AM
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I think a lot of the pushback against the concept of toxic masculinity is that it is often used in the wrong context, framed as something that is the sole responsibility of men to change, or used as the default explanation of an issue to avoid a nuanced examinination.
/r/MensRights22/11/19 11:25 PM
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I love how she claims to be all about female empowerment, and in the next breath tries to undermine the success of other female-lead films. Typical crab-in-a-bucket mentality. Her excuse is a catch 22. By arguing that CM and WW were only hits because they belonged to a male genre, she's implying that her film doesn't, (otherwise why make that point at all) in which case.. why is she blaming men for it's failure?
/r/MensRights19/11/19 04:01 AM
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It's a feminist paradox. For a movement desperate to free society from traditional gender norms, the disproportionate outrage regarding fat-shaming, as well as its constant framing as a gendered issue, only reinforces the supposed patriarchal belief that a woman is only worth as much as her looks.
/r/MensRights17/11/19 07:07 AM
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They're the feminists that r/Feminism and r/AskFeminists pretend don't exist. It's misandry central.
/r/MensRights20/10/19 12:35 AM
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I think you're right there. It's a sub for discussing only the "men's issues" that feminists agree exist.
/r/MensRights18/10/19 11:47 PM
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OP: "OMG Guys! This woman said she finds short guys attractive, but her boyfriend is 6'2. What a bigot!". This thread is a joke.
/r/MensRights27/09/19 04:38 AM
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No you didn't. Your post is literally "OMG Guys! Look at what this one woman said this one time!". Even if she didn't completely invalidate your point by responding to your "short guy/fat girl" gripe by saying she finds short men attractive, it's hardly indicative of any societal issues men are facing.
/r/MensRights25/09/19 04:07 AM
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Again. What does your post have to do with any of that?
/r/MensRights25/09/19 03:56 AM
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Very true. Some days there are decent threads, others you'd be forgiven for thinking you'd accidentally entered MGTOW or an incel sub.
/r/MensRights25/09/19 03:48 AM
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What does this have to do with men's rights?
/r/MensRights25/09/19 03:43 AM
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