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Nope, the equivalent of being treated like a sex object is treating others like sex objects and men would LOVE it if women treated every man like a sex object. The equivalent of goldigging is being "goldigged" and I'm pretty sure no woman would like to be "goldigged". Nobody takes pleasure from paying for a service, it's much better to get the service for free. This of course doesn't take into consideration the evolutionray factors behind female hypergamy but you are the one who asked for a deba…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 06:59 PM
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Where do you find them? You're also Indian, I find it very hard to believe you.
/r/askTRP09/10/20 05:16 PM
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if women hypergamous ones why is it almost entirely men who rape? First of all, hypergamy is still not a scientific concept. We have some evidence that suggests its validity but socialization still plays a big role. I don't think you understand what hypergamy is. Men rape and commit most violent crimes because they're more violent on average, that has nothing to do with hypergamy, if anything hypergamy is compatible with these stastistics since men - unlike women - would like to have sex with al…
/r/ExRedPill24/09/20 01:57 PM
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I agree that lifting won't necessarily make you a catch, but a 10/10 person can easily use dating apps these days to meet people as they will find tons of oppurtunities on these platforms thanks to their looks.
/r/ExRedPill24/09/20 08:57 AM
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I'm incel and I find takes like this very invalidating of our feelings and thus frustrating. It's not the patriarchy that makes us suffer, it's our dating unsuccess, it's our crave for love which it's innate. I think that a woman would feel the same if she was constantly rejected for all her life, the thing is that almost no woman can really say that. Incels think that hypergamy is biologically ingrained in women, they do not blame societal brainwashing for that, we do not even talk about gender…
/r/ExRedPill24/09/20 08:37 AM
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It's not only about politics, it's also about cultural norms in my opinion. Men would love to be sexualised by women, if we had an epidemic of female PUAs no man or pro-male group would complain, if anything the overall happiness of men would increase. Studies already show that the vast majority of men respond positively to random sexual requests from female strangers on the street. The same applies to gay men, dick pictures and instant sexualization is the norm on gay dating apps and gay clubs,…
/r/ExRedPill24/09/20 08:29 AM
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It takes two people for a marriage, so why are men having less sex?
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 11:28 PM
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No, that data is about virginity too, read the last graph on that page. Yes, it's "only" a 10% difference today but that figure has been so high and the trend clearly shows that the trend is getting worse, that data is from 2018 so things are probably worse now. 1 every 3,5 men aged 18-30 is virgin today, 1 every 5,5 women is, in the 90s 1 every 10 men and 1 every 10 women didn't have sex. This doesn't even take into consideration gender norms which usually push men to inflate the amount of sex …
/r/ExRedPill22/09/20 10:14 PM
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Aren't most men comfortable with themselves? Yet few men have many sexual opportunities and women find very few men sexually attractive.
/r/ExRedPill21/09/20 03:18 PM
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Data shows that almost 1 every 3 men is virgin today, it has never been hard for men. You can't make such an inference from one personal experience, most guys around me have trouble finding dates meanwhile most women around me do not have trouble with that or they are single by choice after having rejected many guys. Data is more important.
/r/ExRedPill21/09/20 01:02 PM
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The point is that women say they need to be extra-selective on dating apps because of stranger danger, then you see them contraditing themselves when Chads/Alphas appears thus confiming that hypergamy is the real explanation behind their extra pickiness. On the other hand every woman (or gay man) can get tons of matches, there's not a huge difference in success between average women and hot women on dating apps, the same applies to gay men since every man can get tons of matches on those platfor…
/r/ExRedPill21/09/20 12:51 PM
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Most guys have way less sex than they actually want, most guys would gladly put aside a large chunk of their free time in order to have casual sex. This is especially true when it comes to unproductive hobbies like gaming, I think most gamers would gladly stop playing if they had the chance to have tons of sex, I do not think your argument applies to these guys since gaming doesn't make you grow, just like a lot of other unproductive hobbies.Like with everything there's also a limit, PUA is just…
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 03:24 PM
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It's the perfect middle groud between the biological essentialism of the Red Pill community and the naive blankstate-ism of the main dating subs.
/r/ExRedPill18/09/20 03:14 PM
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Redpillers are not simps because they act to get what they want, instead SIMPs thrive through parasocial or platonic relationships with women even though they actually crave more than that. Most young men put sex over everything else, it's the number one thing young men like, most of us would put it above any other activity if given the chance. Working to get what you want is not a sign of weakness, waiting for things to happen magically (and losing resources in the process) is what SIMPs do ins…
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 12:56 AM
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I see, but the root of the issue is different from the one you described. In my opinion the best and easiest solution is opening moderated support groups for men who have trouble with dating or feel lonely.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/20 12:45 AM
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Most straight men with body image problems do not suffer because they can't wear pink clothes, they suffer because of constant rejection, coincidentally the largest male community dedicated to body image issues is the incel community. Homophobia is a problem but it's a different and more specific one, do not conflate it with body image and low self-esteem. Men do not need a body positivity movement because it's not society or other nebolous entitities that enforce unrealistic beauty standard on …
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 07:22 AM
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I wish I'll have his problems one day, that's my dream.
/r/askTRP07/09/20 06:09 PM
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I hope you're right, I'll try what you say,
/r/askFDS05/09/20 02:50 AM
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I'm already hygienic and have a skin care routine: Morning: Face wash - Toner - Face cream for my skin type - Sunscreen 30+Evening: Face wash - Tonder - Vitamin C serum - Face cream for my skin type Chemical scrub once a week. I watch porn maybe once a week. Now, how do I get laid ? I already know how to get it from men, what's the heterosexual method instead? If it's that easy, as you say and as I hope, it should be explainable. Many straight men would pay thousands to know that secret.
/r/askFDS04/09/20 10:21 PM
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I've got no advice in this thread, I just disagreed with one user who said that men set the leagues which obviously is not true as gay dating culture shows. As you said women set their own leagues and standards. I mentioned those ugly women because one user said I should approach women "in my league" (which is the only real advice I've got so far) and, well, I'm already doing that.
/r/askFDS04/09/20 09:55 PM
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If 2020 is the easiest time for getting sex, why has the number of adult male virgins reached a record high in the US? 1 ever 3 adult men is virgin while 1 every 6 women is, only 1 every 10 men and women were virgin between 1990 and the mid 2000s with little to no gender difference. I really want to understand.
/r/askFDS04/09/20 09:45 PM
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Love said league is about sexual attraction and can't be influenced as it is instinctive, it's not about needs according to her. if that's the case one good follow up question to make is: why do gay and straight men have lower standards when it comes to instinctive attraction? Hypergamy can be an easy answer, I didn't get any reply instead and was accused of being gay. Again, I'm bringing up gay men just to make counter-examples and get more specific replies from you, I still do not understand h…
/r/askFDS29/08/20 07:28 AM
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How do you know i'm not high value? Women do not even give me a chance, how do I even show my value to them? Only my close friends really know me. Sure, female acquaintances my age usually say I'm a very respectuful person but that's it, old women compliment me often though. You brought up political arguments in a thread that didn't ask for them, that's not life advice. I do not agree with your political statements and I can bring in data to support my thesis but that's not the point of the thre…
/r/askFDS29/08/20 07:05 AM
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Well, studies in social science show most men would say yes to random women asking to have sex in the street. Otherwise just look at Tinder experiments, old women and women on wheelchairs can get thousands of guys pursuing them easily. Are most men low-quality? No, they aren't, they're just following their biology.
/r/seduction29/08/20 02:47 AM
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I'm talking about gay men just to show you my experience beween female hypergamy and male homogamy in reference to the league issue. Imagine never receiving any romantic feedback from the sex you're attracted to for all your life and then sudedenly receiving tons of it from the other sex, it's a very flattering feeling regardless of sexual orientation, you can't blame me for feeling flattered. I have no reason to lie here, I came here for help. As I said before, FDS is by far the sub I read the …
/r/askFDS29/08/20 02:00 AM
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If I could choose I would date gay men over women since they are not hypergamous (FDS also says that so don't take it negatively, RedPillers use the term "80/20" just to be more accurate). The problem is that I'm hetero so, unfortunately, I can't do that. Dating gay men would be almost too easy since I wouldn't even need to go out. hundreds and hundreds of gay matches are now waiting me on gay OLD and they are very receptive, it's kinda weird given that gay men are a very very small fraction of …
/r/askFDS29/08/20 01:34 AM
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Sorry, that was not my intention. I'm incel only in the sense that I'm involuntary celibate. I do not believe I'm entitled to women, in a fact I believe it's natural for women to have higher standards than us men, nature can't be changed. This is why I need to increase my league as RedPillers and FDS say
/r/askFDS28/08/20 12:10 AM
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Do they? Yes, they call women HBs but I remind you that they also divide men into betas and alphas and think most men are not worth reproducing with. I'd prefer to be called "hb4" rather than beta whose genetic material is not worth passing on, wouldn't you agree? MGTOWs are actually sexist instead as they think all men are better off without women, in my opinion they're just incels like me but instead of realising they're being sent their own way they think their situation is voluntary in order…
/r/askFDS27/08/20 11:47 PM
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Women and gay men do not struggle with getting that sexual reaction from others though, only straight men strugglw with that so I do not understand what's wrong with the 80/20 Red Pill rule. If I were gay I wouldn't even make this kind of questions, I would have many men attracted to me (like I already have, I find it flattering to be honest). I can see why you disagree with RedPillers when it comes to goals since most RedPillers do not want LTR (some do though) but are their premises wrong?
/r/askFDS27/08/20 10:38 PM
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I've been reading FDS since it was founded as the dating branch of PinkPillFeminism, I know your rules and beliefs very well. Unfortunately FDS, unlike RedPilles, doesn't explain how to attract women, which is the step most men fail at, it teaches how to keep a woman which is something most men do not really struggle with and probably do not even want to improve at. FDS' idea of value doesn't really apply to attraction, it is better applied to relationships in general since it just rmeans being …
/r/askFDS27/08/20 10:08 PM
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What should I read instead?
/r/askFDS27/08/20 09:08 PM
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Yes, you got most things right about us men. 1)You may not directly lie but RedPillers do not advocate liying either, emotional maniulation doesn't necessarily involve lying. All FDS threads I've mentioned in my previous comment involve very clearly some form of manipulation and, as I said, I don't think this is necessarily wrong. I suppot FDS tactics. Women do not want to be treated like men treat their peers (see gay dating culture) , they want to be treated like women and women want different…
/r/askFDS26/08/20 02:15 AM
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The 80/20 states that 80% of women are attracted to 20% of men due to hypergamy - which FDS also believes is real. Sex is only a consequence. Do Redpillers really hate women though? MGTOWs definitely hate women but RedPillers just want to have sex with women who want sex while keeping the commitment as low as possible from what I see, if you look at gay dating culture you'll realize that bold sexualization is just the way men like to treat each other and want to be treated. RedPillers expect fro…
/r/askFDS25/08/20 11:52 AM
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I don't agree with you but I appreciate your take, I'm not here to debate your points. My friends actually tell me I should pay for prostitutes at this point but, as i said before, prostitution doesn't appeal me. You first said: Women’s league structures would look very different, of that I am sure. If that's the case, how would leagues look like if women were to set them?
/r/askFDS25/08/20 05:33 AM
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Ok, sorry, but FDSers themselves say that most men are not worth reproducing with. You seem to agree with Red Pillers on this, maybe I'm wrong but this is the idea I'm getting from reading your posts, you may disagree with RedPillers when it comes to purpose but you both act upon the same evo-psych framework.
/r/askFDS25/08/20 01:22 AM
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My value: people tell me I'm a very kind and respectful person, I try to help others when I can, I put a lot of importance on self-care (mental, hygiene, skin, diet). My and women's leagues: I'm a good college student, middle class, fit, 6ft, very below average face (I can post pictures if you want) but I do not think I'm that ugly to be below even obese and deformed women look-wise but these women are the ones who reject me, I do not even approach attractive women since they're not in my league…
/r/askFDS24/08/20 10:41 AM
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I see, I think my value is high but I need to increase my league, but I'd replace "society" with "women" since dick is abundant and men are not picky. I can easily get gay men but all women, including very low league ones, reject me (80/20) before even giving me a chance to show my value.
/r/askFDS23/08/20 08:51 PM
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Perceived by whom? How does a man increase that?
/r/askFDS23/08/20 02:46 PM
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You're an exception though, you should recognize that.
/r/seduction12/08/20 11:00 AM
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If a person find you attractive even when you are not put-together shouldn't that be even more flattering? It means they are really attracted to you.
/r/seduction12/08/20 10:14 AM
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You're ignoring the elephant in the room. if you - or most men - were to be approached by a woman at the gym you would be very fflatterd even though we men usually train way harder than women at the gym.
/r/seduction12/08/20 10:13 AM
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It's not a general rule, it's a rule that only applies to women. If a woman approached you, I bet you would stop doing what you were doing. As a matter of fact, basically every man would be extremely flattered if a woman approached them. This is just another example of the advice "treat women like guman beings" being shitty, women are very very different human beings from usmen. Men like to talk to each other to the gym and would love to talk to women but women do not like it.
/r/seduction12/08/20 09:56 AM
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*For many women Basically every man would be extremely flattered if a woman approached them. This is just another example of the advice "treat women like human beings" being shitty, women are very very different human beings from us men. Men like to talk to each other to the gym and would love to talk to women but women do not like it.
/r/seduction12/08/20 09:53 AM
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How many matches do you get on Tinder? The average looking man gets 0.8 matches every 100 swipes according to data, where do you place instead? Most women say the wear nice clothes for themselves (actually I usually hear women saying they'd like to get LESS attention from men, not more), most gymbros admit that they train in order to get more attention from women instead. It's not a good comparison. Real Man Real Style is too formal for my tastes, do you usually go around in a suit? I've seen ve…
/r/seduction30/07/20 10:44 PM
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What I did: I've read "She Comes First" by Ian Kerner, it's a popular book written by famous sex therapist Ian Kerner that explains how to please a woman with a particulr emphasis on the importance of foreplay and emotional comfort for women. The New York Times called this book "the Encyclopaedia Britannica of the clitoris.", isf I remember correctly it has been suggested here too. I have read many reports, on this sub and other platfoforms, about bad sexual experiences had by women and I have l…
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy30/07/20 08:27 PM
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I do not know where you live but most women are wary of complete strangers in random contexts, unless you are like top 95th percentile or something in the attractiveness scale you won't get smiles from random women at the grocery store. From reading your last comment I'm getting the idea that you have made approaching a second nature. It's not like you do not think about approching, instead it's more like your unconscius does is for you - am I putting it correctly? If that is the case then the r…
/r/seduction29/07/20 06:31 AM
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Yes, girls are people but they do not have our same sexuality. Sexual attraction has a very different meaning and feeling to women thus dating guidelines are very useful to men, especially because society expects men to approach which puts all the burden of error and rejection on us. Studies show that more than 70% of men would say yes to a random person of the opposite sex asking them to have sex in the street, 0% of women respond positevely in these experiments when roles are reversed instead.…
/r/seduction29/07/20 06:06 AM
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Yeah man, i'm a pro at this. I've never gone out with the intention of approaching women. Results? I do not even know how a vagina looks like. Where's all the pussy I was promised? Interesting persepective, OP, but I think the truth is somewhere in between.
/r/seduction28/07/20 04:45 PM
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I made that comment to point out the misuse of the word "human being" and her take on the whole concept of field report. The concept of field report has a long history in the seduction sphere, this sub has even a flair only dedicated to field reports and many of them are posted every week, if one wants to criticize this whole category of posts they need better arguments. The whole "human being" thing is also so common that it needed to be addressed because that's not advice at all but people, es…
/r/seduction24/07/20 11:13 PM
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I agree that once a woman has friendzoned you it's useless to hope for something more still I do not agree with your other takes. What if OP has already friends? Most men have enough friends, what most men do not get enough is sex and dates. Treating women like random friends doesn't mean they'll eventually want to fuck yo, it doesn't work like that. This "human being" thing has always been weird to me, if men treated women like random human beings they'd sexualize them even more. Studies in soc…
/r/seduction24/07/20 08:28 PM
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Remember to respect her boundaries, if she doesn't want sex respect that.
/r/seduction21/07/20 01:18 AM
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Doesn't this imply that chemistry and sexual attraction are actually the same from a woman's point of view? Or at least they are deeply interwined, your first comment made them look separate, maybe you were talking about men instead and I misread it. As a man I can say that sexual attraction definitely doesn't work that way in us, it's separate from chemistry as you described it and this is probably why Grinds for lesbian women doesn't exist, but we both already know how male sexuality works so …
/r/askFDS15/07/20 01:21 AM
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Do you think that sexual attraction is that distinct from chemistry even from a woman's point of view? Usually women can't really answer the question: what is the percentage of guys you find sexually attractive? Or give extremely low estimates like 0,5-1% that basically imply "I need much more than looks to find someonse sexually appealing". If you really do think sexual attraction is about looks and chemistry comes only after even from a woman's perspective, I want to ask you this question: wha…
/r/askFDS15/07/20 12:51 AM
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I appreciate your concerns. I'm not aspie, I have many male friends and I'm always aware of social situations and other men's feelings, I can feel a friendship-like chemistry with men easily. I was bullied by women for my looks during high school so I have been anxious about talking to them for a long time until recently, I've worked on this issue but now I notice that I have 0 experience with women and I do not know where to start, women are so different from men in what they like and how they …
/r/askFDS11/07/20 10:51 AM
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The problem is that I don't even know where to start, I think guidelines can be helpful.
/r/askFDS10/07/20 07:31 PM
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