The more I read this subreddit the more i realize that High Value basically means Good Long-Term Relationsship material, it sounds like something that fuckboys and players would benefit from learning about but it isn't necessarily helpful to the guy who can't even get a date and would do anything to have a chance with a woman which seems to be the problem that most guys in my generation face.

How many guys do you think are used to use women are sexual objects? Gay men do it all the time to each other but, from my experience, only very hot men can say to have casual sex with women regularly while most other straight guys struggle to have a woman look at the twice. Some women on this sub have introduced me to the concept of league as opposed to value to explain this apparent contradiciton. This is acknowledged by users from the main sub but it's never fully addressed, they very often mock average or ugly men (never hot ones) who look for casual sex or FWBs on dating apps. They know leagues are real and that they, unlike gay men, are not sexually attracted to most men.

From what I'm learning on this sub and the main one, women produce chemicals that make them very prone to stick with a man, with little care for his behavior, after they had sex and this is why women need to consciously screen their partners before sex. It's a conscious effort and it's different from sexual attraction, FDSers are wary of sexual chemistry probably for this reason but sexual chemistry is also the test that weeds most guys out, not the "high value" part. It seems like men weed women at the "high value" part by behaving badly towards women they think are not compatible with thme since men do not produce chemicals that make them stick with a woman, still this test is much less selective than the first test women make (sexual attraction).

This is probably why men are more concerned with being high league than high value, my theory is that women do not face this issue because they're attractive by deafult while few men are like this (80/20 rule) yet they often face the problem of having to stick with guys they had sex with.

I had thought that reading this sub would have helped me with becoming more attractive to women but honestly I've found very little that will actually help me in my dating life, PUA might not work but it least addresses the issues that most guys face in the dating world, that is to get a girl to at least date them. I have a good student career, friends and I know what women want but this one thing is useless unless I can put my knoweledge in action. I think women can choose who they are attracted to much less than men, we men find most women sexually attractive but women do not feel the same. So now that you know what I'm talking about, here are my questions:

1) What's the difference between league and value?

2) How does a man increase his league?

3) How differently do men and women see league and value?