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| 262 | Three Core Principles of Negative Manipulation, and some ways to short-circuit it | Red Pill Theory | SUCK_MY_DICTIONARY | /r/TheRedPill | 15/04/19 01:47 AM |
| 9 | I had LTRs as a young beta, but I don't know how? | Red Pill Theory | SUCK_MY_DICTIONARY | /r/TheRedPill | 26/11/18 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Keep getting called negative by many people | SUCK_MY_DICTIONARY | /r/askTRP | 25/09/17 05:49 PM |
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| 5 | The Rollo PillIt has had a huge impact in simply waking some guys the fuck up. Even as reading it my first time, I knew it was a low-energy thrown together collaboration because it was a series of articles. Mostly, it was on Audible and I had credits, and there were a lot of reviews of it. There didn't need to be more logic than that. So if somebody else wants to 'beat' him and his 'empire,' I would suggest they do that. They may find it un-TRP but really, people generally like to buy a book that claims it wi… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/06/19 04:47 PM |
| 1 | Please, please, please read "Models" by Mark Manson, the holy grail of seductionWell I don’t think so. I’ve given it to several people over the years (I first read it in 2013) and regardless of what it says, I can tell you what really happened. Guys including myself ended up with the wrong idea. It gives you the tools to be smooth, but doesn’t address the underlying issues that caused you to be not smooth. You can put lipstick on a pig... Really, I don’t think it was his intention. It’s just what ends up. The books that really help you fix those issues, nobody argues over t… | /r/seduction | 05/06/19 11:39 PM |
| 5 | Please, please, please read "Models" by Mark Manson, the holy grail of seductionIn No More Mr. Nice Guy they point out a seriously major flaw with Models and other related books: "It's like giving dynamite to children." In other words, women not being attracted to you probably isn't directly because you don't comb your hair. You don't comb your hair because you have problems, and she's not attracted to guys with problems. Suppose you comb your hair, and now you've landed an LTR... at heart you really still are a guy with issues - relationship problems ensue. I've seen it wi… | /r/seduction | 04/06/19 02:27 PM |
| 1 | What Are Some of The Biggest Lies Mainstream Society Tells Itself With Dating/SeductionRight, that’s where it’s dangerous. If your current view of yourself is that you will just do the bare minimum, it’s a trap. It’s okay to be yourself but you have to separate your unique skills and quirks from bad habits and undesirable traits. Like not wanting to take initiative. | /r/seduction | 18/05/19 12:19 AM |
| 7 | What Are Some of The Biggest Lies Mainstream Society Tells Itself With Dating/SeductionJBY is not always false. You gotta take initiative, but in taking initiative, you might accidentally "find yourself" and in that case it's not a bad thing. Bottom line is: being a lazy, flaccid guy gets you no results, always. Doing shit that scares you is the move. | /r/seduction | 16/05/19 11:48 PM |
| 3 | What Are Some of The Biggest Lies Mainstream Society Tells Itself With Dating/SeductionI think he's just trying to get some other perspectives. There are too many guys who come on here with top 3 tips that are usually either the same as the last video, bullshit or niche situations. I appreciate them trying to listen to the community. | /r/seduction | 16/05/19 11:46 PM |
| 5 | Not sure what to say next. Please helpHonestly you don’t have to say anything. I guess maybe I’m older but I’ve gotten that message and I just don’t respond. It’s wasting both your time to pursue it at all. And you leave something on the table by not responding. It’s not ghosting if you messaged first and not twice lol | /r/seduction | 03/05/19 10:56 AM |
| 2 | Is dating women a bit less attractive seen as giving in?Let me ask you a real question: Do you ever know what people in public are thinking - I mean really? Which do you think is more likely, they're thinking about what they had for lunch or who you are with? Just throw that thought out of your head altogether. Everybody gives in. Donald Trump gave in on Melania. He could've married Britney Spears if he worked it out. If you mean getting a 'raw deal,' you're the only one who can really answer that. What if you just really wanted to have a kid? What… | /r/seduction | 26/04/19 05:29 PM |
| 5 | What is a creep?Wow... glad I scrolled down to see this. My feelings about the top post were like this, and it was annoying to see they totally missed what a "creep" really is. You basically wrote the perfect Wikipedia page here. This is a top-notch post. | /r/seduction | 26/04/19 05:08 PM |
| 2 | What is a creep?Luckily this is now more widely known, but also 50/50 there are actually a lot of legit-ass creepy dudes out there. This used to be reserved for the kind of guys who literally stare women down, make them uncomfortable, text them daily, basically forcing themselves if a girl is not interested. Then it slowly became a general insult for any guy the girl didn't like. At least in my experience - I remember when being called a creep was like death because we knew the guys who were legit creepy and th… | /r/seduction | 26/04/19 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Three Core Principles of Negative Manipulation, and some ways to short-circuit itDon’t confuse the positive and negative manipulation. If you go through your life stacking up enemies behind you, guess what happens one day. Positive manipulators like George Washington literally did the opposite. He built up people who worshipped him behind him. Possibly making him the most alpha man in US History. Everybody ever learns his name before age 5, and dresses up as him in school. If he could walk into any room, everybody would want to talk to him even if just to see or hear him. Ma… | /r/TheRedPill | 23/04/19 11:28 AM |
| 1 | Three Core Principles of Negative Manipulation, and some ways to short-circuit itYep you’ve got it. It’s quite possibly the most fucking annoying thing if you are generally an honest person, because you usually do not expect someone to be so absurd. They would argue that a gun could not kill you, and offer themselves up as proof and then probably shoot you at the last minute. | /r/TheRedPill | 23/04/19 11:07 AM |
| 1 | Three Core Principles of Negative Manipulation, and some ways to short-circuit itI can’t link that example you provided easily but I mentioned in another post the way it happens to me sometimes (which I’ve since learned to snuff out). I’ll be sitting at my desk fully concentrated on something. Coworker comes up, out of nowhere, quickly asks me something while standing over me. Brain just squeaks out “sure” without really thinking because they caught me off balance. Another example is that I go on work trips, and sometimes people schedule crazy flights and shitty hotels. When… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/04/19 10:49 AM |
| 1 | Three Core Principles of Negative Manipulation, and some ways to short-circuit itThink of it this way: if you were about to go in for a job interview and I took the sunglasses out of your car, threw away the milk for your coffee, and hid your deodorant - are you gonna be A1 when you go in? Similarly, when they want to manipulate you, pushing you off your center just enough can make you more likely to screw up and fall for it. It’s kind of like in a lot of fighting styles, you try to trick your opponent to go in for a move and then hang back. When they go for it, you push the… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/04/19 03:52 AM |
| 1 | Three Core Principles of Negative Manipulation, and some ways to short-circuit itTrue. Email trail is part of that smoke screen tactic. A good manipulator is kind of like a ninja. They try to strike so that nobody sees them, and if you should happen to, they want to make it look like you are insane for complaining. | /r/TheRedPill | 17/04/19 11:24 AM |
| 4 | Three Core Principles of Negative Manipulation, and some ways to short-circuit itThe last line there explains it the best. I realized this with a coworker lately. He is literally like having a competitor working within the company. All I can say is that it’s hard. They are doing everything they can to make it look seamless, but you can feel that it is not really seamless. It’s usually very broken and frustrated feeling to work with them. Something I started doing is just saying “why?” A negative manipulator will never have the answer to that question, or it will be never hol… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/04/19 04:45 PM |
| 3 | Three Core Principles of Negative Manipulation, and some ways to short-circuit itYou might not have been in a situation like I’m referring to here. Sometimes in a job people will stick you between the rock and the hard place, and you will constantly be fighting your way out. And you can’t just ignore the work they ask you to do. Again, people acting like this do not want you to realize you’re in the situation. They want you to think they aren’t doing it - it’s all in your head. Gaslighting is a technique they use all the time. | /r/TheRedPill | 15/04/19 03:33 PM |
| 4 | Three Core Principles of Negative Manipulation, and some ways to short-circuit itIf I had power over a person like this at work, I would fire them. There are too many good people who will not act like this. The thing about these people is that they will destroy you over time if you don’t set hard boundaries with them. | /r/TheRedPill | 15/04/19 03:30 PM |
| 10 | Three Core Principles of Negative Manipulation, and some ways to short-circuit itYes. I had a girlfriend who would constantly send me affectionate gifts for no reason. It was cute. And she would tell her girlfriends and even my friends about them. But what happened was that there was a covert contract that I had to always let her pick the most expensive restaurants, always go where she wanted to go, lay around when she wanted to lay around. Basically, she came up with her own reward system for me which I never agreed to. When I didnt comply, I looked like an asshole. Like “d… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/04/19 12:06 PM |
| 6 | Three Core Principles of Negative Manipulation, and some ways to short-circuit itIt took me until eh, now, to realize this. Here’s the thing they don’t understand: let a kid punch a bully in school, or else that kid will be spending hours and hours in therapy or never realizing his full potential. I understand they “can’t condone violence” but to me, if they gave me detention but the principal said “hey listen, we have to do this to get the state funding but you did the right thing.” I would’ve walked away empowered. Again, it’s 5 minutes when you’re a kid, or months of trai… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/04/19 12:00 PM |
| 17 | Three Core Principles of Negative Manipulation, and some ways to short-circuit itYep. I wish I never had to ‘become an expert’ at this shit, but I’ve seen in my little bit of life so far (25) that situations change dramatically from year to year. I’m very glad to have a framework that I trust to hold up to years more of situations. I think a lot of these skills maybe were not taught in our childhoods. I had a memory the other day of a kid who bullied me relentlessly and everybody knew it - then one day I decked him. And all of the parents acted like I was a monster, and nobo… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/04/19 05:03 AM |
| 9 | Three Core Principles of Negative Manipulation, and some ways to short-circuit itSo much yes on your last bit. I didn’t want to add all the disclaimers in the original text because I felt it would’ve made it too cloudy. I had hoped the examples and the suggested defenses showed the futility of trying to force someone to do something. In the end, you’ll be like a zookeeper should you be a “good manipulator”. Everyone around you would gladly kill you given the opportunity, and maybe not even know why. When you die, people would rather spit on your grave. I know TRP is all abou… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/04/19 04:57 AM |
| 6 | Three Core Principles of Negative Manipulation, and some ways to short-circuit itAgree. I have a hard time getting through 48 Laws. It’s high quality but it’s almost like reading a DSM. | /r/TheRedPill | 15/04/19 04:49 AM |
| 8 | Three Core Principles of Negative Manipulation, and some ways to short-circuit itI’m an engineer. And that’s called body mirroring, it’s instinctive. Probably not manipulative. Some manipulative tactics I’ve noticed at work were: - sneaking up on me at my desk to tell me to do something which he didn’t have the right to, but he caught me off guard and I said yes - planning purposefully insane travel schedules so I would be off my game the whole trip - constantly undermining my knowledge and boosting his own, even though I can see clearly he has extremely weak knowledge of wh… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/04/19 04:49 AM |
| 2 | Three Core Principles of Negative Manipulation, and some ways to short-circuit itTrue. This is a slightly different situation, it’s basically: what to do when someone is trying to make you submit. The key difference between manipulating (in the context here) and salesmanship is that a manipulator is trying to force others to comply who do not have an interest in complying. As I said about the farmer, you don’t really need convincing. Of course, there is some play there (brand competition etc.) but that’s a different subject. This is more if you have determined that someone i… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/04/19 04:30 AM |
| 23 | Three Core Principles of Negative Manipulation, and some ways to short-circuit itAlso 48 laws of power, which I think this is very similar to, and almost felt like I was either rewriting a chapter from it or something. The key here was just that I wanted to make a short (as I believe it can be) guide to ‘sense’ manipulation - that’s the hardest part most of the time I think. Many of us just run straight for the guilt, shame, anger and submission - especially those types who try to have a positive and trusting outlook. The kind of guy who ends up in TRP because he was a nice … | /r/TheRedPill | 15/04/19 04:08 AM |
| 5 | This "macho" writing style is getting ridiculousI’ve called them out before for being stupid as hell and you get the exact response you expect. “Yeah bro I bet you’re a little pussy that never fucks any girls, I am actually doing something with my life.” kind of shit. Sorry, I just don’t care that much about another fucking “top 3 things you do that turns her off.” This is becoming like Cosmo for men. | /r/seduction | 25/03/19 12:52 AM |
| 12 | You will never be ready.Yep, it took me a long time to realize that: A) literally nothing is perfect and B) everything can be improved Things we call perfect are just things that have gone through a lot of trial and error design iterations to where you’d really have to think outside the box to improve them. So in essence, perfectionism is a total lie and it wastes a ton of time. Improvement is good, but they say “fail early and often” for a reason. | /r/TheRedPill | 22/03/19 02:12 PM |
| 2 | Women don't actually want their men to "be in touch with their feelings". Men don't show emotion or share their feelings because there is no benefit for them to do so in society or their relationships.Being in touch with your feelings and expressing your feelings are two different things. If a dude is depressed, he can put on the hardass front all he wants and he will still be out-gunned by any normal guy. All you do by not fixing it is avoid the problem. It will pop up in a hundred different ways if you successfully push it back in. All this means is, girls don’t want a guy who is a constant whiny baby. But people who are not in touch with their feelings are almost invariably the real whiny … | /r/TheRedPill | 15/03/19 03:41 AM |
| 86 | Which Sweater Should I Wear?I just want to point out that this isn’t just women. It’s also people at work (men or women), people in your relationships. Generally, lack of being able to make a decision stems from low self-esteem (low value) and fear of abandonment. Learning how to make a decision can help you start attacking the real problems. Namely, thinking you aren’t capable of even deciding what kind of sandwich to eat for lunch and need to consult someone who is able to adequately judge these tough kinds of situations… | /r/TheRedPill | 14/03/19 07:52 PM |
| 6 | How to get out of the Friendzone... My Epic 6 Month ExperimentYep. The feeling chasing a single girl is that somehow she is magically going to be the single greatest thing he has ever had. Then he finds out that she is basically average and he put in a way above-average amount of time to get that. Disney basically made it so people feel awful applying basic economic-type ideas to romance. But whether people see them or not, they still happen. Chasing one girl is almost invariably going to be a waste of time. | /r/seduction | 13/03/19 10:31 AM |
| 17 | How to get out of the Friendzone... My Epic 6 Month ExperimentIf anything I would say he has proven that exact thing. I don’t think anybody thought it was impossible. In fact many people who say “it’s a waste of time and energy” have been there and done it and realized that it was not worth it. But sometimes guys are self-sufficient and have to learn the hard way to believe some things. | /r/seduction | 13/03/19 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Virgins are demonised, yet apparently most men can't get laid?There is probably some of that, and there is some where we don't see the 'hard' side of that beauty standard. The average skinny person in the US would be considered fat in Japan, at least as far as I have seen and heard. It's tough on the girls there, but they are way behind the curve in gender equality. The US is usually ranked pretty high on "most attractive guys" and usually ranked low or not ranked on "most attractive women." That's not super objective, but in my experience, that's about ri… | /r/seduction | 11/03/19 10:48 PM |
| 2 | Virgins are demonised, yet apparently most men can't get laid?That’s reasonable. However, I do think a large amount of guys who say they don’t just want sex, sometimes really do just want sex. A lot are just afraid of the casual kind of lifestyle. Society doesn’t punish you for getting sex and fulfilling your social side of the relationship elsewhere. It punishes you very badly for getting your social side and needing to get your sexual side elsewhere. I may be in agreement with OP but I just don’t like the angle that makes sex unimportant. A lot of guys s… | /r/seduction | 11/03/19 05:52 PM |
| 17 | Virgins are demonised, yet apparently most men can't get laid?To give you some support for this claim, I travel internationally from the US a lot and I find some places like Brazil just have a lot more women who are conventionally attractive by western standards. Even in the US, cities like Miami tend to have way more attractive women than cities like Fort Wayne, Indiana. Why that is, I don’t know. But it’s pretty easily checked and probably agreeable by most western men. | /r/seduction | 11/03/19 11:03 AM |
| 12 | Virgins are demonised, yet apparently most men can't get laid?Do you really actually not want sex, or do you feel like you are supposed to feel that way? And that being that way makes you good, and being good makes you worthy of having a healthy relationship? Because that’s a kind of covert contract that can lead to a lot of frustration long term. I just say that because it’s a pretty common thing guys say. It’s sometimes the long form of when they are basically taught to follow the rules to get what they want. But in relationships there really aren’t stri… | /r/seduction | 11/03/19 11:00 AM |
| 2 | You might of already be losing daily opportunities.Basically, he asked her and she said she would have gone for it before. But would she really have? Who knows. She says now she would. Really, nobody can say what they would have done in the moment. And really by bringing up this shit you kind of paint yourself as beta because you are taking advice from women about how to talk to women. It seems like you should do that, but the reality is that there are lots of things that they will tell you to do that do not work, and lots of things they will te… | /r/seduction | 10/03/19 04:46 AM |
| 1 | You might of already be losing daily opportunities.Yeah on the other hand that anxiety is unhealthy to you. Thinking that you could be doing something right now and you are not is just the kind of anxiety that puts you constantly on the back foot and out of frame. You’re not wrong, there are probably lots of times guys could shoot and win instead of waiting. On the other hand, the stress of constantly feeling like you need to be on your A game reduces your ability to over be on your A game. | /r/seduction | 10/03/19 04:41 AM |
| 5 | Tinder in Asian countries VS europeI mean you don’t have to wreck your own self-esteem about it but think of it like “one man’s trash is another man’s treasure.” I travel a lot and I hear some of the politics in the US and I think so much of it comes from such a place of abundance they should really consider traveling. Imagine thinking that winning the lottery is basically equal to your sister meeting some NEET, going away forever and sending home a sliver of his paycheck. Like if you’re Bill Gates, why would you ever invest half… | /r/seduction | 09/03/19 02:53 PM |
| 62 | Tinder in Asian countries VS europeNo it’s because if they send home $100/week to their family in Thailand, they don’t have to work anymore. You would just be the money machine for them so they don’t have to work. I challenge anybody who hasn’t been there to look up the numbers. That’s exactly what it is. Same as why India has lots of phone scammers. If they can get $100 off of one person a month, that’s like making $30k a year here. That’s what happens when there is such wealth disparity between countries. | /r/seduction | 09/03/19 01:47 PM |
| 1 | Unpopular opinion: online dating is deadYeah if you took it as that I don’t disagree. I’m mostly worried that people who are already afraid to do a normal approach are now pushed even further into that. And since so many people took it that way on their own, I think that’s quite possible. | /r/seduction | 31/01/19 05:24 AM |
| 1 | Unpopular opinion: online dating is deadI agree those are legitimate problems. My interpretation, as well as many others, of the two “catcallers” were that they were just a pretty standard guy making a pretty standard approach. The one slightly catcalled, but his buddy only stopped him when we walked up to talk to her and not right after he did it. Anyways, the message I got is that Gillette wants me to leave women alone and let them choose to approach me instead. And I know that is just a terrible idea, so I say their ad is hamfisted… | /r/seduction | 30/01/19 10:58 PM |
| 3 | Unpopular opinion: online dating is deadI agree. But when a large minority opinion that guys shouldn’t talk to women appears, it’s certainly not impossible for a lot of guys to use that as an excuse to stay home. The problem is where they draw the line of public approaches. First it was catcalls, which OK. Then it was any cold approach...uh. Now it’s almost like you can’t even flirt with a girl. Again, that Gillette commercial will just make you go “what the fuck do they expect you to do?” I mean my takeaway from that commercial was, … | /r/seduction | 30/01/19 05:28 AM |
| 2 | Unpopular opinion: online dating is deadHe’s referring to the fact that there’s an ongoing pressure for men to stop ‘harassing’ women by approaching in public. Most notable recent example was the big Gillette debacle. They aren’t actually going to ban it, we hope. But it just goes to show another reason people don’t approach, because there is that push not to. | /r/seduction | 30/01/19 04:04 AM |
| 2 | Giving up on the dream lets you enjoy realityit sounds similar but I don't know much about NLP. I wanna say CBT is much older and less hokey, because it's more simple. I think of it this way: yes a chainsaw works better than an axe, but you don't need to show somebody how to use an axe. In terms of these kinds of programs, if you can boil the idea down to 3 words, people follow them. If you can't, people will forget them. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/01/19 11:59 PM |
| 7 | Giving up on the dream lets you enjoy realityHere is the general idea: bad (and good) feelings are usually just an automatic thought you have when something happens. Have you ever noticed yourself get angry or sad when something happens, you see the same thing happen to someone else and they don’t care? A good example is rejection in general. Basically, you start with that feeling and start asking why? Usually on paper so you can really flesh it out and cover everything. You want full coverage of a thought because if you miss a piece you w… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/01/19 12:27 PM |
| 3 | Giving up on the dream lets you enjoy realityFeeling Good by Robert Burns is the book by guy who basically invented it, but it’s been taken on by the medical community so now you can get the gist of it for free. | /r/TheRedPill | 24/01/19 09:41 PM |
| 28 | Giving up on the dream lets you enjoy realityI wanted to post on here about CBT philosophy but I decided not to because nobody seemed to ever ask. Really, dating had me feeling all kinds of emotional ways as it does. TRP and 48 Laws of Power really twisted me up all kinds of ways. I felt empowered and at the same time, it made me look at the whole world and think it is all fucked and lost. For a while I was on that mess, and some of the posts here made me start thinking that I'm a piece of shit because I don't roll into a bar after work to… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/01/19 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Feeling shitty about dating multiple women?I don’t feel shitty about it but I still get that taboo feeling. It comes from being in primarily LTRs and not even knowing it was normal to date multiple people until my 20s. There’s nothing wrong with not dating multiple women. However, the overwhelming opinion is that dating multiple will lead to a more healthy relationship because you learn more how to choose somebody who complements your life rather than find the first one who will settle. Also, it’s just a simple game of opportunity cost. … | /r/seduction | 23/01/19 12:17 PM |
| 7 | How to slide into a girls dms?Transgression: girls will hate this sometimes. You can usually tell by if you get a one-word or no-response. I’ve later decided to not do this but if you’re 17-20 you’ve got nothing to lose go for it. | /r/seduction | 21/01/19 02:54 PM |
| 2 | Going out aloneIf it’s quiet enough, bullshitting with the bartender is a good way to establish a base. If it’s loud, places like dance floors are dope because nobody knows anybody they’re around. Don’t be afraid to be the guy in the corner but just stay off your phone and shut the fuck up. People will actually approach you to figure out what the fuck you’re doing there. It’s wild. | /r/seduction | 19/01/19 12:31 AM |
| 2 | Men Give Gillette The Middle FingerThat was literally my first thought. Like, I know that's kind of the point of TRP... but jesus christ, I've never seen such a pure example. Like or hate Pewdiepie, this expresses my thoughts exactly as I watched it: https://youtu.be/bOgApS67xZ0?t=1248 Like "Hey, don't you know you're not ever allowed to approach a girl, idiot?" And my favorite part is that all of the blame is based on men, it is prototypical 'man up, and chop your own nuts off, you fucking asshole.' Like I said in my comment, to… | /r/TheRedPill | 18/01/19 03:15 PM |
| 2 | Men Give Gillette The Middle FingerI'm all for anybody taking themselves out of the market, as long as its on their own adult accord. | /r/TheRedPill | 16/01/19 02:18 PM |
| 3 | Few things I still don't getHard to tell what exactly you’re saying but I think I catch your drift. Mostly it’s a big catch 22. I’ve been doing it a while and I’m starting to see how it fits together. I would liken it all to the market. For example: You buy coffee at Starbucks when it catches your eye, it feels like you stumble upon it but they strategically place locations so that you end up there. The Starbucks business doesn’t physically uproot itself to get you to come in. You don’t buy Starbucks every day, usually. A … | /r/seduction | 16/01/19 05:57 AM |
| 3 | Men Give Gillette The Middle FingerYou’re thinking from a male-community-centric point of view and I applaud that, but think about it like this. If you are alpha, your goal is to devalue all other alphas. It’s just as likely a TRP guy is the head advertiser and is literally just trying to grow brand awareness and fuck every man in the process cuz why not. I’m gonna refer to 48 laws of power: learn how to use your enemies, conceal your intentions, court attention at all costs, get others to do the work for you, and make other peop… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/01/19 11:45 PM |
| 19 | Men Give Gillette The Middle FingerTBH I thought that it would be a trans-positive campaign and I was like meh, sure fuck it why not. Only to end up laughing at the absurdity of it. “men, you must stop your friends from looking sensually at women....” “haha no” and move on. | /r/TheRedPill | 15/01/19 11:37 PM |
| 3 | Men Give Gillette The Middle FingerBingo! They’re just stirring the pot. Ignore it. The white knights probably won’t especially buy Gillette, but being pissed at Gillette doesn’t benefit me/us either. This is a large scale shit test, and what do we do with those? Ignore. | /r/TheRedPill | 15/01/19 11:33 PM |
| 0 | Men Give Gillette The Middle FingerI totally disagree about seeing the backlash, I would’ve thought TRP would’ve completely ignored it. Backlash is what Gillette was going for. TRP is usually pretty good about seeing 2-3 steps ahead. | /r/TheRedPill | 15/01/19 11:30 PM |
| 2 | Men Give Gillette The Middle FingerYeah I think about this all the time. What’s worse, people being openly racist/sexist/homophobic or doing it covertly? All these commercials do is sub-communicate to be more covert about your beliefs. Decidedly ZERO people will watch a fucking RAZOR commercial, and go “today is the day, I will never rape a woman again!” | /r/TheRedPill | 15/01/19 11:29 PM |
| 5 | Men Give Gillette The Middle FingerThey knew it would trigger everybody and increase brand awareness. Gillette basically had nothing to lose, they’ve been getting raped by Dollar Shave Club and Harry’s. What’s the worst that could happen? The worst thing that could happen is that they drop that commercial and nobody cares. The fact is, we’re just advertising for them by pointing out everything wrong with the commercial. And they packed it to the gills with shit to bitch about. Important thing to remember: most companies, key word… | /r/TheRedPill | 15/01/19 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Are there many pro dating coaches who post here?A brief study would reveal that most of the people this community looks up to the most don't even have to be successful, they just have to write material that resonates with people. Right or wrong. | /r/seduction | 14/01/19 09:14 PM |
| 4 | Reapproaching a girl?If nothing has changed and you ask her again how do you expect it’s gonna be any different? I would just keep it in the loss column and move on, you’re way too invested in a girl who has flat out rejected you. | /r/seduction | 14/01/19 04:54 PM |
| 1 | The Most Neglected MuscleEven hobbies are questionable as to their efficacy. I picked up the violin about a year ago, and I've been playing a ton of music lately, but in my apartment. So I am trying to start gigging. Basically, my opinion is, and I believe it is exactly what Einstein is saying, is that you should be reading only to figure out the next 2-3 steps. Your own brain is quite good at being logical when provided the proper information. Give it too much and you will overthink. Books should be like GPSes for life… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/01/19 11:21 PM |
| 22 | Technique doesn't matter if you're a mess. Fix yourself or don't bother.There’s a happy medium too. I’m a serial fixer. I spend so much time trying to perfect everything that I will forget to leave the house. People like me need to get told to approach. I actually can’t even fathom making 100 approaches. Basically, it’s like playing an instrument. You can’t just go out and buy an instrument and become Jimi Hendrix. You also can’t just play in your room all day and become Jimi Hendrix. You have to play for people. And you also have to come to terms with the fact that… | /r/seduction | 10/01/19 01:56 AM |
| 1 | 0 Luck with Online dating. What should I do now?oh so you're saying that my social anxiety will play to my advantage. score!!! | /r/seduction | 08/01/19 02:29 AM |
| 3 | 0 Luck with Online dating. What should I do now?I can’t believe that actually works. I’m not trying to be a dick but every single time you ask anybody what to do, that’s like always one of the top 3 answers. Even if they’re old as shit. To the point where I would expect to show up to a salsa dancing class and it just be a bunch of dudes like “where’s the hot chix at? I was told there would be hot chix.” | /r/seduction | 08/01/19 01:26 AM |
| 5 | 0 Luck with Online dating. What should I do now?I got tired of meeting girls who I referred to as “island of lost toys” girls because every single one I met there was a major incompatibility with. I started treating it like it’s my own personal experiment playground. Like if I want to test something preposterous out, I start with it on online dating. Best example was a girl who wanted to meet at a bar. Old me went to the bar, was wound up to 11 and spent 6 hours hammer drinks to calm down while endlessly talking to her at the bar. So I tried … | /r/seduction | 08/01/19 01:23 AM |
| 0 | TRP in High SchoolTRP isnt just for those old dudes around the age of 30, it works for us too. The value for a guy increases with age. Internalize that. 'These old dudes' are probably gonna be you one day and the feminine imperative wants you to think all the 'old dudes' are losers and you're smarter than them. We're giving you the cheat codes, they do not want that. Remember that. -Appearance : This is probably the most important factor of all. At your age, this is correct as fuck. -Clothing Always try to wear s… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/01/19 06:03 AM |
| 2 | TRP in High SchoolHit the sidebar. Particularly, I think Rational Male Volume 3 is the best thing to read when you're young, at least as far as I've got. As far as Rollo's stuff, it's some of the most succinct reading there is for TRP, but I think a lot of it you just simply don't get at 17. Marriage is (and should be) a far off concept, many of your friends probably aren't in relationships or may also be virgins. Even in RMvol3 he glosses over pre-22... I hate to say it, but there's a mixture of Rollo trying to … | /r/TheRedPill | 04/01/19 04:59 AM |
| 3 | TRP in High SchoolJust don’t get too cocky yet there Tex. You’re probably gonna do some dumb shit at some point, just don’t take it out on TRP. A lot of us old farts (I’m 24..... not even old damn lmao) have gone through some shit and also assume we will go thru more shit in the future but you should try to see the fact we ended up in the same place as a good thing. We were all you once. Hopefully you can be better versions of us. | /r/TheRedPill | 04/01/19 02:10 AM |
| 8 | 8 Things Girls Notice First About You | Keys to a Great First ImpressionNow that is a video I would watch | /r/seduction | 02/01/19 04:33 PM |
| 18 | 8 Things Girls Notice First About You | Keys to a Great First ImpressionHow many of you ‘8 steps to attracting women’ YouTubers are there? | /r/seduction | 02/01/19 04:20 PM |
| 1 | How to get over a girl I like at work?Really hard to quantify in a Reddit comment. Usually the people who need this advice the most are the ones who actively do it. It doesn’t sneak up on you. Like say you run into a girl and become totally infatuated with her and she doesn’t even know your name, you’re being totally illogical. You’ve created a version of her in your head that is probably not real and the qualities of which are greatly exaggerated. Logical ideas are much less romantic and exciting but allow you to generally have muc… | /r/seduction | 02/01/19 01:54 AM |
| 3 | How to get over a girl I like at work?I think this is an underrated comment. You've built a version of her in your head that is perfect, probably sleeps on a bed of roses and shits out nuggets of gold. Talk to her more often and you'll find out she's just as human as everyone else, and she probably has annoying attributes just like anyone else. It's not just limited to women, it's just that women don't tend to get this oneitis because of the way the dating world tends to work. Think about this: you would probably love to own a Lambo… | /r/seduction | 31/12/18 10:05 PM |
| 1 | How to get over a girl I like at work?The bad thing about this approach is that it works, for now. It's a bandaid. Oneitis is going to bite him in the ass in the future if he doesn't fix the root cause. He probably has an illogical idea of what love is and thinks he is supposed to feel this way about some girl, somewhere. You can expect him to smother any girl who shows him interest in the future, if he is *this close* to smothering a girl who rejected him. He needs to lean way back and get his sense of self in order. | /r/seduction | 31/12/18 09:56 PM |
| 8 | How to get over a girl I like at work?You gotta kick your concept of love, because the way you think of it is probably your core problem. The way you're using it here means that you feel it is irreplaceable. That's just illogical. I bet you could find 100 or maybe even 100,000 women who you enjoy their presence just as much as hers. Stop coming up with reasons that make her special. She isn't coming up with any for you. In fact, she may be coming up with reasons that you are not special to her so she can depersonalize rejecting you.… | /r/seduction | 31/12/18 09:53 PM |
| 1 | How has your life changed since applying what you learn from No More Mr Nice Guy and Models?In my opinion he overly dramatizes it and he’s not very self aware. There’s many meditation books out there that are way less strange-sounding. A lot of listeners can benefit from the book but might get creeped out by that part. If I were him, I would cut that stuff and just leave the beginning. I’m sure there’s some reason he thinks he can’t do that but IMO he totally could and it would be just as if not more popular. | /r/seduction | 30/12/18 02:55 AM |
| 2 | The Feminist Reaction to Day GameThink about it a little bit further: if they can convince anybody not to approach, they limit the men who will approach to the most confident. It's almost the same idea as dating apps. Fundamentally, they don't exist to pair up women with betas, but betas go on them wanting that to happen. These things just exist to filter betas, so that when the women are approached, they are getting the best of the best. For example, these women might be completely against men approaching them, but if it's the… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/12/18 10:45 PM |
| 13 | The Feminist Reaction to Day Gameyeah, that's literally what this sub exists for. Sperging out about the finer points of the male-female dynamic. You're doing god's work trying to flesh out this point. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/12/18 10:28 PM |
| 2 | How has your life changed since applying what you learn from No More Mr Nice Guy and Models?I felt The Way is good, I think about the concepts from that book all the time. My only suggestion is that you might want to just skip after he starts talking about the penis meditation. There is a distinct part in that book where he goes from talking about legitimate stuff, to kind of kooky... he starts sounding like the yoga instructor from GTA5. I listened just to be sure, you can skip it unless you really want to listen. It's really kind of same old same old "meditating is good" hippy dippy … | /r/seduction | 29/12/18 03:50 AM |
| 5 | How has your life changed since applying what you learn from No More Mr Nice Guy and Models?Models was better than HTNGAF. I'm still trying to figure out what is the message of HTNGAF. I guess, just tune in, turn up and drop out. I mean the concept is hazy at best. I think I got the idea he was dropping but I guess it just felt way less helpful than Models. Maybe even potentially damaging to the reader... I don't think he gives the reader enough tools to investigate which 'fucks are worth giving' and he spends so much time being kind of negative about anything trying to do anything tha… | /r/seduction | 29/12/18 03:40 AM |
| 3 | How has your life changed since applying what you learn from No More Mr Nice Guy and Models?I've read Models many times and it used to be a must-read for me, but nowadays I'm starting to see the big gaps in it. He spends the whole time telling you not to be needy, but then inadvertently tells you to be needy by changing everything in your life, but lie and say it's an honest expression. The logic doesn't quite line up at the seams. For example, let's say you're a fat dude that likes playing video games, and that's you... well then obviously we have to change that, and you can't just be… | /r/seduction | 29/12/18 03:35 AM |
| 52 | What i've learned from cold approaching over 350 women“social media is like porn for women” Dude... not sure if that’s something people say ‘round these parts but that’s a fucking home run of a statement. | /r/TheRedPill | 25/12/18 03:43 PM |
| 57 | What i've learned from cold approaching over 350 womenHoly fucking shit dude, point 5 is spot on with at least 5-10 girls I know. I see social media in general as just a big validation tank for girls, that the social media networks draw us in with them and use that to run advertisements. I grow more away from it every day as that truth just seems to keep echoing louder the more I see it over and over again. But dude, tattoos, half nudes, nipple piercings, tight clothes, posting daily, god you have fucking nailed one of them in particular to a T tha… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/12/18 06:44 AM |
| 6 | Girl friend zoned me, but texts me what I’m up to?Bingo. Top comment is stupid. Just because she’s a girl the guys who know nothing are upvoting her. She wants to bang, that’s it. Go for it. | /r/seduction | 23/12/18 02:51 PM |
| 2 | Is me wanting something real seeming too clingy/oneitis???Yeah it is. You should try to think more about getting hookups and deciding if you like them over time than trying to find a wife in a girl you know for a few minutes. | /r/seduction | 23/12/18 02:48 PM |
| 2 | How do i have an opinion? How do i stop the boot licking ass licking seeking approval ??Simple, start producing content. Make comments on every video. Make comments on reddit. The more you do it, the more you realize the economy behind it. A comment on a post with 8 upvotes has way more potential value than a comment on a post with 32k upvotes. Nobody is sorting the latter by new, but the former you will be one of only a few comments. There is no trick to where everything you say gets 1000 upvotes, or likes, or whatever. You throw shit at the wall and see what sticks. Eventually yo… | /r/seduction | 21/12/18 07:47 PM |
| -2 | Texting to confirmWay back I heard people say that confirming is needy, and I realized I would never wait out the other person, I was always the one that confirms. So I changed it up with no confirmation and about 50% of the time they texted me to confirm, which lets me know that not only did they remember but they are invested enough to ask. The other 50% of the time, they showed up. I’ve only ever been ghosted when I confirmed the date, which has happened many times. I would say then the confirmation message re… | /r/seduction | 21/12/18 07:33 PM |
| 10 | Don't Get Cucked By CuckservativesI can’t tell what you guys are on. Are you referring to the Ted Cruz’s as bad, or the Trumps as bad, or what? If you are going to rag on conservatives, seem to defend liberals somehow, then talk like you think liberals are insane as well... it’s like a never ending loop. It sounds like a 7th grade “whoa man like are we even real?” Facebook post. In a society of 300 million people, where third parties have traditionally never been successful, how is voting for the less-shitty party unacceptable? … | /r/TheRedPill | 20/12/18 05:25 AM |
| 25 | Don't Get Cucked By CuckservativesI really agree. I know that the traditional viewpoint is that liberals detest TRP but the more I read, the more I see that it’s extremely moderate. I’m in the “purist” camp. TRP has been developed by lots of people who kind of threw their piece on the pile, and if you boil it down, you get a couple major kernels of truth that all men should know. Trying to use that to further a political agenda is just slimy and wrong to me. Think of it this way, the feminine imperative has been around and will … | /r/TheRedPill | 20/12/18 05:13 AM |
| 8 | Don't Get Cucked By CuckservativesYou’re taking the terms literally which are not literal. Do you also think the Green Party is just people who are green? Liberals want to conserve the rights of minority groups. They want to conserve the pay of men in relation to women. Conservatives want liberal tax reform. Conservatives want a liberal military to defend the country in case of war. Just keep sounding all forward-thinking and shit, the bottom line is that you can’t affect any real change by having your head in the clouds. I read… | /r/TheRedPill | 20/12/18 05:06 AM |
| 194 | Don't Get Cucked By CuckservativesWow this is really cool and insightful. I guess the most actionable option is to just all kill ourselves because basically we either need to vote for 7yo’s getting sex changes or else be losers... I grew up around a ton of rednecks who really don’t get or want any government assistance, and would just like to keep their money because it’s all spent in cities anyways. Really never had much to do with abortion or whatever else logic you have going on here. You can argue that it’s libertarianism, b… | /r/TheRedPill | 20/12/18 02:26 AM |
| 2 | I asked a girl out.I think the important thing here is the toolkit building part, which many people wing life without. If we all did that, there would be no wars. People would all just be cool as fuck. I agree about people being stuck in their own head. But on the contrary, people like myself do things that don’t understand why they had the effect they did. Like I naturally give off a vibe that people sometimes find super intimidating. Or people never in my whole life wanted to place me in a position of power, but… | /r/seduction | 19/12/18 12:45 PM |
| 2 | I asked a girl out.The point they’re making is, the top comment says “Just follow your instincts” and unless you have a wonderful, loving upbringing, your instincts are wrong in at least a few areas. You can call it micromanagement but it’s like saying getting your car wheels aligned and oil changed is micromanaging, or going to the gym is micromanaging. Just be yourself, man! Why need to lift heavy weights, they’re so not you! They’re just big metal things, man! | /r/seduction | 18/12/18 12:12 PM |
| 12 | Tinder is the ultimate legal pimpYeah, I didn’t even really go full TRP until after I already racked up like 10 on the collective dating apps. For most, I had it down to clockwork. Date at bar, good. Date at place by me, offer to hang after and watch movie. Turn on movie, make out, bang, send home. Then you spin them for about a month, and either stop because they’re insane, keep pressuring you for a relationship, or are gross. I’ve outlined it for friends and they say it’s never that easy. I have a hard time finding a girl tha… | /r/TheRedPill | 17/12/18 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Am I Moving Too Fast on Tinder Dates?There are people who say it should happen on the first date. I would say that it depends on a lot of factors and forcing the hand isn’t the right move for most girls. Like I said, I’d run about two hours if it was boring but I’ve had longer dates. Usually I say “alright we better get going, we should do this again sometime.” They always say yes. Then we schedule something later. I always try to make it more physical if possible, and try to be the one driving and have them park at my place. But y… | /r/seduction | 14/12/18 12:02 PM |
| 1 | Am I Moving Too Fast on Tinder Dates?Not sure what you’re asking here but I usually just go and play it by ear. I have fun bullshitting. I haven’t been on a date where I felt I was wasting my time to spend 2 hours. Even crazy girls, I pick their brain just to see what crazy girls think. I’m out of school now and don’t live near the bars I have dates usually. It’s almost never as simple as just going back to my place first time. Usually I have to cook up an excuse to have them over. Make dinner, visit to a museum she doesn’t know ho… | /r/seduction | 14/12/18 06:32 AM |
| 1 | Where do you usually "finish" during a hookup?Your odds getting it as a male doing PIV are like none. Read facts. But even a non-deadly STD can give you enough stress that it felt like it took years off my life. | /r/seduction | 12/12/18 11:56 AM |
| 2 | Subtle non forward way to ask for height in online dating gameThat message makes no sense and sounds awkward. You could use the apps which list their actual height right on the app. Hinge is one. If I had to ask every girl on a dating app how tall she is, ask her “how many apples tall are you?” Hello Kitty’s height is measured in apples, so they may get the reference. Otherwise it is just an absurd thought, but probably they will answer. you may think it’s not subtle but I guarantee you get the answer from way more girls and they will just think you are ma… | /r/seduction | 12/12/18 06:07 AM |
| 3 | Am I Moving Too Fast on Tinder Dates?Don’t let the conversation die. Figure out why it dies and make it not do that. I have the opposite problem that I lose track of time and spend 5 hours on a date with a girl instead of moving it home, unless she’s a total weirdo. Student union is probably a bad place for dates unless there are no other options. Try a coffee shop that isn’t a chain. You are probably being a little too direct about asking them over. She doesn’t want a hard offer for sex, which is implied by “come over and watch a … | /r/seduction | 12/12/18 05:57 AM |
| 1 | Should she get a message after a meetup?You can give it a shot, but don’t make a habit of it. You need to close the deal in person. Messaging afterwards is so soft she may reject it outright, unless it’s literally because you got her number to set up a date. | /r/seduction | 12/12/18 05:47 AM |
| 1 | The ONE Secret To Getting Any Girl - Animated GuidePro-tip: come up with a better title. This is far and away the most used title for these kinds of guides and frankly it’s like the boy who cried wolf at this point. Nobody is going to buy your “one secret” even if it’s legit. | /r/seduction | 12/12/18 05:45 AM |
| 1 | Where do you usually "finish" during a hookup?Debatable. My biggest problem with them is that they all dry girls up and end up peeling off from friction. I’ve tried all different sizes and none work well. And lube is annoying. But I still wear them. Rawdogging tinder girls is something you give up on when you have to go to the doctor and get half your dick frozen off. All it takes is one time! DTA! She wasn’t worth it. | /r/askTRP | 12/12/18 05:41 AM |
| 4 | Where do you usually "finish" during a hookup?You have got to be a moron. It just takes one to lock your life into a bad situation, and give a kid a bad upbringing. Use protection. Not only that, you get an STD one time and you will be kicking yourself for years for that. It doesn’t ever happen until it does, and you are paying a doctor $300 to freeze shit off your penis with a spray can that feels like a needle is stabbing you. Don’t be a dumbass. | /r/seduction | 12/12/18 05:37 AM |
| 1 | (18M) How do I make myself less 'socially awkward' and how do I get girls to laugh?Be more social. It really is easier in university. Try going to one random event per week where you don’t know anybody. It might feel crazy, but just go like you’re going to the gym. Go to the rock club meeting and the hot yoga class and the moonbeam-bellydancing class. Just one a week or more if you want. Only have to go once. Maybe it’s totally fucking weird and you never go back, or maybe you just found a huge friend group. Once you’re out of college, finding that stuff becomes a minefield th… | /r/seduction | 12/12/18 05:33 AM |
| 1 | Holy fucking christ i'm lonelyI made a reply to another post that is probably more valuable, you should check it out. You don't have to devalue anybody. You are probably overvaluing them as is. And you are probably undervaluing yourself. You said you moved out, are healthy, and so on. You're not giving yourself credit for any of that. I do the same thing, I know the feeling, but imagine if you said a girl has to meet that criteria for you to date her. It may feel like a total pipe dream, but don't you think there are girls l… | /r/seduction | 11/12/18 07:42 PM |
| 3 | Holy fucking christ i'm lonelyI'm just gonna point out here that your list of things you find attractive is pretty much based on the girl, and particularly changes due to age. If OP is looking for a girl in her early 20s, the list gets shorter. In her 30s, the list will probably briefly get much much longer, and then drop down to much much less. And the question is, does the list really hold any water? If he ticked all those boxes, would you actually go for him? Or if you still felt uncomfortable, you would add more boxes? I… | /r/seduction | 11/12/18 07:31 PM |
| 1 | Holy fucking christ i'm lonelyYou totally have to stop caring ("be soulless" however) in order to be successful. Caring about having a relationship is neediness, which repels them. You're getting anxious because you care way too much, and you're listing all the reasons you should care, which are not necessarily true. There's no wall for you. You could absolutely net someone until you're old, basically. Maybe you need to check your own views of how things are first, and question them. I wouldn't say 'focus on yourself' so muc… | /r/seduction | 11/12/18 06:51 PM |
| 10 | Negativity on this subYeah quite honestly, the most 'positive' thing you can learn to do if you are not "naturally successful" is to get comfortable with failure. This is the place people will naturally come when that is hard. If you want a positive place you can discuss strategies, I'm not sure it exists. By nature, this sub is where people come when they're down for the count, nobody posts here when things are going well. Banning negativity here just bans content that could be valuable. Why not instead go into the … | /r/seduction | 11/12/18 06:48 PM |
| 2 | When Hooking up with a woman, is it better to go to her place or take her to yours?“dicky dick” | /r/seduction | 09/12/18 04:03 PM |
| 11 | When Hooking up with a woman, is it better to go to her place or take her to yours?This is the definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face. Putting girls as your central focus is easily the worst strategy you could possibly have. | /r/seduction | 09/12/18 04:00 PM |
| 8 | When Hooking up with a woman, is it better to go to her place or take her to yours?I’m going back to school when I’m 26 and then I’ll show those 19yo’s. When I graduate they’re gonna give me a PhD in the 19yo pussy with manga cum laude baby WOOO | /r/seduction | 09/12/18 03:49 PM |
| 1 | State of the Manosphere 2018Dude what the fuck are you guys on? Mods? | /r/TheRedPill | 07/12/18 07:59 PM |
| 2 | How to avoid being a TRP NPCIf you can do something and make fun of it, it’s better than doing that same thing and getting outraged when you consider that. People who reap benefits by it don’t care, it’s the people who are banking on it who will fight. Like the guys here who literally just approach and lift, if they have an abundance mentality would hear themselves get called an NPC and be like “hm. Yeah maybe. Idk. Welp gotta go FYB.” It’s the guys who don’t pull anything who have this all or nothing frame. Some people do… | /r/TheRedPill | 07/12/18 07:57 PM |
| 9 | [FR] She Belongs To The GameYou can’t spell OLTR without LTR | /r/TheRedPill | 07/12/18 07:40 PM |
| 7 | A view from the other side: I'm now the guy I was afraid of while in relationshipsDon’t be surprised if Girl A gets caught and stops coming around, and Girl B goes away because you said here you overtly explained what you were doing when we know that girls really lose interest when you take away the mystery of it. Obviously you don’t have oneitis but you might have two-itis. Better find some more girls. And don’t ever tell them what strategy you’re operating on or you will turn them off quick. | /r/TheRedPill | 06/12/18 12:36 PM |
| 2 | "I try to be a nice guy who contributes to society and respects others; how come I'm a miserable 25-year-old virgin, whereas every bully and jerk and frat bro I know is able to get a semi-infinite supply of sex partners whom they seduce, abuse, and dump?"There is a line you have to walk. It's not about the career and hobbies, it's about the mentality. If you are doing anything in life just to make other people think you are high status, then you are not alpha. It doesn't really matter if you spend that time in the gym, or in college, or in a corporation. The old "alpha drug dealer" line. On the contrary, if you are really good at chess, and you go balls to the wall on chess, you probably aren't going to meet girls doing that. However, if you go … | /r/TheRedPill | 05/12/18 03:32 PM |
| 1 | I had LTRs as a young beta, but I don't know how?Yeah, I actually finished Rational Male Preventative Medicine and it became way more clear why it happened. The two that I am most curious about really didn't have father figures so their mother's could have vicariously pushed them to try and find a more beta guy because the mother might have pushed her towards betas because if she had picked a better beta before the wall, she would have somebody to help her support herself and her daughter. Double down on that, she didn't have a real male figur… | /r/TheRedPill | 04/12/18 10:04 PM |
| 2 | The case against Monk ModeYeah I agree, but sometimes you don’t have time to do everything. For example if you have work trips overseas where you’re busy pretty much from 8am to 10pm when you come back, your free time is more valuable for a stretch afterwards because you lost some of it while on travel. That’s my story, partly. But like there’s improve mode and maintenance mode. You can only shift so many things into improve mode and the other things have to be like maintenance mode. You can’t have all things in improve … | /r/TheRedPill | 02/12/18 08:39 PM |
| 2 | Help me find the fatal flawWhether the current situation is ideal or not, the last line! Getting married to a single mother is the ultimate cuck move. Imagine if I bought a new car, took it off a jump and destroyed the suspension, and sold it to you at full price and you happily took the deal. You not only have to pay full price for a car with miles on it, you also have to pay for the suspension you didn’t even get enjoy breaking. You’d have to pay twice to enjoy it. Don’t do it! | /r/TheRedPill | 02/12/18 05:37 PM |
| 2 | The case against Monk ModeIt’s bad to avoid women purposefully, but the idea to going monk mode is probably that the guy had unhealthy social habits that weren’t working and he is doing it for the hard break. Some people need that sober time to reflect on what went wrong and correct the root, not the symptoms. I never heard of monk mode, but that’s roughly what I’ve been doing for the last year or so. For about a year I was freaking out constantly worried about girls on dating apps who were worthless, trying to find more… | /r/TheRedPill | 02/12/18 05:28 PM |
| 2 | Removing Power From Men : Mom Says 6-Year-Old Son Is Transgender. Dad Disagrees. Now He Might Lose His Son.oh yeah good chance this guy knew she was nuts. He should have voluntarily participated in a mental evaluation himself, brought that to family court and request she do the same. If I knew I was divorcing a total loon, I would do that. Otherwise this kind of shit is your new reality. | /r/TheRedPill | 30/11/18 12:30 AM |
| 9 | Removing Power From Men : Mom Says 6-Year-Old Son Is Transgender. Dad Disagrees. Now He Might Lose His Son.True. Of course it’s not a girl this time but if they made their girl dress up like a dude I think they would be calling them womy haters. I just want to know why liberals always cling to anything in aversion to tradition. If anything is different, they’re the first to defend it no matter how fucked up it is. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/11/18 04:58 PM |
| 12 | Removing Power From Men : Mom Says 6-Year-Old Son Is Transgender. Dad Disagrees. Now He Might Lose His Son.The father should be able to make a counter-claim if he has custody and go to literally any therapist to ask them without him in the room. I will say from reading the guys stuff, if he felt the therapist was legitimately getting his son’s real opinion, he would probably take it. It’s the fact that the mother is essentially fronting for “Luna’s opinion” with whoever confirms her belief. This is really just all kinds of fucked up. | /r/TheRedPill | 29/11/18 04:47 PM |
| 46 | Removing Power From Men : Mom Says 6-Year-Old Son Is Transgender. Dad Disagrees. Now He Might Lose His Son.I want to see a response from the woman. I’m not saying I expect to be proven wrong, but I can’t find a single instance where she has spoken publicly about any of this and most of the sources come the the fathers site. As it is, obviously this is fucked beyond belief. Especially the part where he acts like a boy around his dad. If we could meet the kid maybe our mind would be changed. In any fucking case, why are they letting a child make legal decisions??? It’s so easy to manipulate a child tha… | /r/TheRedPill | 29/11/18 04:21 PM |
| 4 | I had LTRs as a young beta, but I don't know how?Yeah that's what I was under the impression. They aren't actually attracted to betas, they just make a decision based on what they perceive their SMV to be. They're always attracted to alphas, but will unenthusiastically deal with a beta if they think it benefits them more. I added a potentially important note, LTR1 and LTR3 both were girls who had single moms. So it is possible that they really didn't know what a guy is supposed to be like and therefore tolerated the weird shit I did. I think f… | /r/TheRedPill | 27/11/18 03:26 AM |
| 4 | I'm a straight female and welcome any serious questions from guys wanting advice on how to approach women/dating etc. (if this isn't the right place to post - sorry!)Holy shit. Grand slam top comment. Literally the first thing I thought when I saw the post title. I wish this occurred to me like about 10 years ago. | /r/seduction | 17/10/18 11:18 AM |
| 2 | I, a previously 20 year old kissless virgin, just had sex last night thanks to this subredditGood work. Just remember you’re gonna have lots of flip-flopping and what works for you will change over time. Sometimes you’ll do everything right and it won’t work, sometimes you’ll do everything wrong and it will. Don’t change what you feel is right without a plan. | /r/seduction | 10/09/18 01:30 PM |
| 1 | I would just make girls like me but after that I would realise that I dont like her, I just like being liked.I would advise you to check out “The Rational Male” or read Rollo’s article on “The One.” Might help a little bit. It’s a hard truth but basically there is no “one.” It’s just a matter of chemistry. If you’re worried about missing your “one” there are much better things to worry about. | /r/seduction | 07/09/18 04:41 PM |
| 5 | I would just make girls like me but after that I would realise that I dont like her, I just like being liked.Honestly, I do this but I don’t feel like it’s necessarily a bad thing. I take a lot of people at their word and make assumptions that they’re good people that I would get along with. That applies to girls. Almost every time I “lead a girl on,” she’s not the girl I thought she was. Getting somebody to like you, is how you date. Period. You do things to try to get them to warm up to you. And it does feel good to be liked. But it doesn’t feel good to give a chunk of your life to somebody you later… | /r/seduction | 06/09/18 11:27 PM |
| -1 | How exactly should I go about getting laid in college?10 messages is not at all too many. You gotta realize that guys will send a girl 100 messages before they ask. 5-10 is reasonable. You probably could ask in 2 for a lot of them but it’s gonna be really awkward. | /r/seduction | 01/09/18 05:01 AM |
| 2 | The 3 Most Common Dating Mistakes Guys Make - as told by a WomanRight but if she’s looking at you and wants you to talk to her, what’s stopping her from approaching you? I’m not telling guys to rely on girls to approach them but I just hate the bullshit “I looked at you with my eyeballs, don’t you know that means I want you to come over and ask me on a date, idiot?” And this just perpetuates it. | /r/seduction | 24/08/18 03:47 PM |
| 51 | The 3 Most Common Dating Mistakes Guys Make - as told by a Womanthis is fucking stupid. A) they’re relying on the ethos that because she’s a girl, we should listen because she knows what all girls think. Except that’s dumb, because she doesn’t know what other people want, and she may not even know what she wants. How many girls say they want a guy that does X and Y, and he does it and they don’t like him? So right off the bat, I know she’s going to say some generalizations, but whatever, that’s not my main issue. 2) her points aren’t terrible, but they aren’… | /r/seduction | 24/08/18 01:11 AM |
| 9 | Blood, sweat and fucking tearsMen’s value tends to rise over time, so I would argue your average guy doesn’t just have 5-10 good years left. | /r/seduction | 17/08/18 04:36 AM |
| 1 | Study: Women peak at 18 on dating apps. Men peak at 50.Your daddy | /r/seduction | 16/08/18 11:11 AM |
| 1 | The girls I want to meet up with always have a last minute excuse either to do something else or no reply. Any advice?If they aren’t setting a hard date, you need to drop them. That’s their way of saying they aren’t interested. There aren’t really other plans, they just won’t come right out and say that. Think about it, if a really hot girl came up to you and asked you to go out, you’d reschedule your fucking wedding for a date (maybe not but you get the idea). If a really ugly girl did the same thing, you would probably say “oh I can’t that weekend, I have a dentist appointment.” Oh how about Tuesday “oh that’… | /r/seduction | 02/07/18 07:55 PM |
| 2 | [FR] Say and take what you want, but at the end of the day, the roommate wins.Yeah don’t double text just let her sit. She may be asking friends or something. Just wait on it and probably slow down a lot. If you throw yourself at her you’re not conveying any kind of scarcity or value. | /r/seduction | 29/04/18 09:29 PM |
| 3 | [FR] Say and take what you want, but at the end of the day, the roommate wins.I would hold off to text her for a few days if you can tbh. You can use the suspense to your advantage, and if she forgets you then it probably was just that she wanted to make out at the club. I would try to find out what area she is from and see if you can come up with a bar or something based off of that, just get drinks and then maybe bounce to a couple places after if you can and it’s going well. | /r/seduction | 29/04/18 09:24 PM |
| 2 | People overthinking thingsA lot of that comes from the old-school approach to this stuff. Older dating advice used to say “do this thing” or “NEVER do this thing” and newer dating advice is more like “be this person and either you will always do the right thing, or you won’t need to worry about what the right thing is to do.” | /r/seduction | 12/04/18 05:54 PM |
| 2 | What could I do better?I don’t think anybody is gonna be able to give you good advice on this. High school girls are all over the place. If you want to do something with her you should say it now since you already sort of went down that road. | /r/seduction | 09/01/18 04:29 AM |
| 2 | How to befriend girls at college?It’s not like it wouldn’t help, but it’s not the only way to do it. I knew all kinds of people in school who were gross looking to me for one reason or another, and it never necessarily meant they didn’t have friends. And similarly, I knew attractive people who were so narcissistic that they had no friends. | /r/seduction | 15/11/17 11:43 AM |
| 11 | How to befriend girls at college?False | /r/seduction | 15/11/17 11:31 AM |
| 2 | How to befriend girls at college?I wish I knew this when I was in college, but it only occurred to me after I graduated. | /r/seduction | 15/11/17 11:31 AM |
| 8 | A thought exercise that will help you get real with yourself very quickly.I think this post helps people who are in a rut, but it doesn’t set them up with long-standing good habits. The best situation is to be improving your life for you, because you want to. Not because you’re trying to fuck Mary Jane or some other imaginary girl. If you’re doing it for yourself, you never lose the motivation. | /r/seduction | 22/10/17 12:00 PM |
| 2 | A thought exercise that will help you get real with yourself very quickly.Yeah I agree with not being a piece of shit with unattractive habits. I also think you can have your cake and eat it too. Girls like guys who are driven and motivated. But if you’re literally only doing it for pussy, what happens when you get in a relationship and can have all the pussy you want? What happens if you do fuck a 10, did you do everything right? It’s a good way for someone to get off the couch and start working towards their goals. But they eventually have to start doing it for them… | /r/seduction | 22/10/17 11:57 AM |
| 47 | A thought exercise that will help you get real with yourself very quickly.Yeah but this shit is dangerous cuz you are basically living for some particular girl’s pussy. Turns out you don’t have to be an ubermensch to be able to get with those girls, and if your entire life is driven by pussy then you also are unattractive to those girls. | /r/seduction | 22/10/17 01:37 AM |
| 2 | I want a girlfriend and want to lose my virginity but I am a virgin and I never had one before.I’m gonna say this and it probably isn’t gonna feel good or you won’t accept it, but being in a relationship is not going to fix your problems. If you think your life is not good, and it can only be good if you’re in a relationship, you’re gonna have a bad time. I mean for example, if you go find 10 fat girls with low esteem, they’ll definitely bone you. I’ve met fat girls that would bone anybody. But in the long term you’re gonna regret those girls. Myself, I’ve been in a few relationships. Now… | /r/seduction | 15/10/17 10:28 PM |
| 17 | I want a girlfriend and want to lose my virginity but I am a virgin and I never had one before.Yeah and to further this point, attractiveness is almost entirely in your control. Mostly it has to do with your attitude. If you seem to be desperate and have problems with your own life that can be fixed without a girl, they’re not going to want to help you when they first meet you. If your grades are low because you aren’t with a girl, maybe they’re low because you feel unappreciated. Maybe you need to change who you’re listening to for approval. Therapy would help immensely with this to pick… | /r/seduction | 15/10/17 01:10 PM |
| 2 | Had sex with girl. Then she didn't want to see me again...Yeah that's what you need to do. Sucks but you can't catch feels for every girl. | /r/seduction | 01/08/17 08:32 AM |
| 1 | I jokingly "slap" a woman on her face when she was teasing me... I think I went off the rails here... how can I get back from it?I used to make more jokes like this to my one ex and got legit called abusive by retarded girls in high school. I've since knocked it off, but it's ridiculous how quick people are to call someone "abusive." There are people who are actually abusive, and they attract girls, and there are guys who get called abusive and don't attract girls. All you have to do is know for yourself that you're not abusive. If someone ever calls you out or makes you feel like you are, remind yourself that they are ba… | /r/askTRP | 20/07/17 01:22 PM |
| 3 | Does The "Art of Not Giving a Fuck" Work On Getting Women?It depends on the girl as well as how you do it. Some people are like "I don't give a fuck to go up and chat with that girl. She's pretty but I don't give a fuck about that. I don't give a fuck about pleasing myself..." And so on. This is cancerous. You will proceed to realize you actually do give a fuck and will realize you're wasting your time not giving a fuck. More useful is to think "that girl is pretty, I think I'll talk to her." And when you do that and think "she's too pretty for me", th… | /r/seduction | 09/09/15 05:29 AM |
| 1 | Help. I need to know how to move on, and look for other girls; or if I should even try right now.Well she might love you, but you're gonna be too awesome to love her back. You'll get there. | /r/seduction | 19/05/15 03:25 AM |
| 1 | Pre-date nervesFigured as much. Good work! | /r/seduction | 19/05/15 03:25 AM |
| 2 | How do you implement kino?Tbh if you're not at a rave, or a loud ass drunken rock concert, grabbing boobs within the first time of meeting a girl is a great way to fuck up lol. You can't really get away with murder. | /r/seduction | 18/05/15 03:51 PM |
| 1 | [FR] Grown balls, freed spirit = ultimate successGood shit. I also like the sideways tip about taking a girl with you to go get girls. Even if you know there's no way you could hook up with her, somehow having a girl as a wingman seems about 100 times more effective and confidence building than having another dude as a wingman. With a girl it feels like at the end of the night she could actually tell you where you went wrong, whereas with another dude it just feels...plasticky. Idk. Good stuff, glad you're finding your element. | /r/seduction | 18/05/15 06:10 AM |
| 2 | When you meet Tinder girls who say "I met other guys but they just wanted to hook up"Hahahaha my current girlfriend did this during our first date. "I'll bring my jacket so we don't have to come back to your place after the concert." ---> comes back to my place after the concert. "I don't ever make out with guys on the first date." ----> makes out with me on the first date. literally 1 day later "I'm not an easy fuck." ---> fucks me We've been dating for quite some time now, but I just always remember how funny that was. | /r/seduction | 18/05/15 06:03 AM |
| 6 | How do you implement kino?Some guys' personalities aren't as well suited for kino I don't think. Guys here will tell you that's not true, but they probably also are kind of creepy. I do it a LOT accidentally. I'm taller, and go to a lot of college parties which tend to be loud. I do it to girls I'm not even interested in. They tell you something you can't hear, or "can't hear", and you touch the small of their back and lean in. Or if you're introducing them to someone, give them an arm around the back like you're their d… | /r/seduction | 18/05/15 05:57 AM |
| 1 | Help. I need to know how to move on, and look for other girls; or if I should even try right now.This happens a lot. You're not alone. I would say that it's likely that the FWB part is what is making it so hard. You might not need to get back on the wagon and instead might just be better off hanging out with buddies and getting new hobbies. The thing is, you're thinking about her because the other things to think about don't seem to matter as much. But there comes a time when other stuff just will matter more and there's nothing you can do but let that happen. She won't even be a part of yo… | /r/seduction | 18/05/15 05:50 AM |
| 2 | Pre-date nervesI'd probably not be high for it, but that's just me. I don't do that stuff too often so I'd be zoning out, and I know some girls don't dig it, esp. for certain events that are supposed to be more formal. If this girl is the kind that would smoke with you, maybe do it, or hell, even offer her to do it beforehand. If not, I wouldn't throw it at the coin toss. I get really nervous at my first dinner with a girl's parents. Like I can't drink my drink correctly cause my neck tenses up, and I just fee… | /r/seduction | 18/05/15 05:43 AM |
| 2 | Game for guys who aren't looking for sex?It depends what you're reading here. Some of the more active stuff is pretty smutty, I'll give you that. I'm not a big fan, generally. The heart of this 'movement' is/was supposed to be that guys find a way to get the girl they want...ideally for a relationship. A lot of guys just plug and chug girls which is fine but most will probably agree there's not a lot of fulfillment. Show me a guy that's fucked 100 girls and I'll show you a guy that's probably been depressed a lot of times. Show me a gu… | /r/seduction | 18/05/15 05:29 AM |
| 1 | I'm getting numbers and responses... but failing at moving on with the date...If you just ask for their number with no preface, they're probably not really sure what you want and might even just want you to leave them alone sometimes. When you go to ask for it, tell them you should meet up sometime and hoooww are we gonna do that if I don't have your number? If she says no, you save yourself time. Trying to start a relationship over text, you need a pretty desperate girl. If she was already interested when she gave you her number, you wouldn't have to be working her over … | /r/seduction | 18/05/15 05:23 AM |
| 2 | How should I have dealt with this shit test?Nbd. You were trying to be chill and her friend was a bitch, and she might have been too. Probably dodged a bullet there -- do you really want to be with a girl whose friends are cunts like that to random strangers who didn't even hardly say anything? | /r/seduction | 18/05/15 05:21 AM |
| 1 | Pre-date nervesI'm 21 and would probably still get nervous at the beginning of the date. You have a couple options. Some (older) people, might just drink a little before hand. Not enough that your breath stinks but enough that you're relaxed. Probably a good option is to have a backup plan, as in what you'll do if shit hits the fan. If you internally feel like there's something else you can do if this sucks, you're less likely to be nervous. For example, you're gonna feel awkward about the first thing you say … | /r/seduction | 18/05/15 05:18 AM |
| 2 | [Discussion] "Models" by Mark Manson is revered on this subreddit to be a key learning tool. I tend to agree. With that said, are there any areas where Manson's framework falls apart?You're right. I got the vibe from the book, though, that there is a perfect time and place to meet a girl. Something like: an event where there are enough women that you can say something to one of them and be forgotten by the end of the night, like a wedding, only where the girls are single mostly, and the other guys aren't currently making moves so basically you're shooting fish in a barrel. He says stuff about joining wine tasting groups and stuff like that, but in my area, most people would … | /r/seduction | 05/01/15 02:49 AM |
| 2 | Where to start?This is one of the main things people offer on this page. It's like "What now?" "Go read Models, and come back." That said, it doesn't work for everyone but a grand majority of people really learn a lot from that book. | /r/seduction | 04/01/15 11:58 PM |
| 2 | [Discussion] "Models" by Mark Manson is revered on this subreddit to be a key learning tool. I tend to agree. With that said, are there any areas where Manson's framework falls apart?Personally, I think he tailored the book towards people who frequent meat markets. Some people don't live in cities, and it's just not like that. I particularly found the book pretty useless most of the time because the only time I could use its powers was when I was, say, at a concert or at some other large scale event with lots of people. That said, I think he does point out that you need to go places to make these things happen. But if you're from a rural area, you'll know exactly what I mean… | /r/seduction | 04/01/15 11:55 PM |
| 2 | [Discussion] "Models" by Mark Manson is revered on this subreddit to be a key learning tool. I tend to agree. With that said, are there any areas where Manson's framework falls apart?IIRC he makes some pretty solid claims and will back them up to scientific stuff which he doesn't cite. For instance, I think at one point he's talking about cavemen and how cave-women (?) would look for the one with the highest status, not the most meat or something like that. No citations there particularly. But there are many other times in the book he says something science-y and doesn't cite it, like when he's talking about what gets men off vs. what gets women off. That said, I think there… | /r/seduction | 04/01/15 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Reading Models, came across this section: "Men who only experience rejection"...Dude, if you read that book and feel like it can't help you and that you constantly get rejected no matter what, you need to read it again. If you're uncomfortable with who you are, that's the book for you. It tells you how to become what you are comfortable with. I'm not sure how it can be interpreted any other way. | /r/seduction | 02/06/14 01:24 AM |
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