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Number two is just autism, not neccesarily intelligence. Most people want someone about as smart as they are and people detect that. Smart women want smart men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 01:05 AM
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Porn is not addictive in the same way cigarettes are, but men prone to impulse control issues are probably likely to become ”porn addicted” in order to get access to immediate gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 01:00 AM
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Yes, he likely also has fear of abandonment. Birds of a feather…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:22 PM
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Birds of a feather. Fear of abandonment in a man probably makes him more likely to prefer a girl that’s clingy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:21 PM
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Most people just observe their surroundings. What type of men are popular with women, what type of celebs they like and so on. Again, this ia expected to be something people intuitively pick up. I suck at that myself, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:10 AM
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I agree with everything!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:29 AM
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Also - another reason why women ”give bad advice” is because they think that certain things are implied already, something you just ought to understand automatically. Many people don’t think others need to be told that it’s good to care about your appereance or get a good job or don’t appear like a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:27 AM
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Men seem to have stronger preferences for female therapists than women have so it is probably easier
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:18 PM
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Yeah no. Trust me. I’m the kind of person to tell them the truth and it’s not well received. A lot of people don’t want to solve their problems, they want someone to blame. Look at TRP. The advice given would be the same and therapists usually don’t relate to their patients.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:17 PM
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You realise the advice women give in private which isb’t arvice often is because they don’t want to hurt his feelings? If you really think male or Female psychologists would tell someone different things that’s just bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:06 AM
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My point is that it’s similar for things like being a lawyer. Never heard of therapists that weren’t. And I never discussed that matter. My point is that it’s not hard to find one who is male, especially since apparently people more often want a Female one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:05 AM
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Oh I agree. Red pill is inaccurate, but the way it is presented suits the autistic mind better
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:04 PM
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It doesn’t really. It twists and misunderstands a lot of things. Datepsych is more accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:42 PM
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But she still looks better than he does so…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:41 PM
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The problem with blue pill advice is not the content but that it relies on “reading the room”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:40 PM
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I think @datepsych is a good alternative; he is accurate but presents it in a ND friendly way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:39 PM
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That’s weird because what you learn is probably “purple pill”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:38 PM
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What country is that? Where I live, 40% of psychologists are men. Just search for a male one, or a female autistic one. Can be good to talk with a woman regarding dating though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:37 PM
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Which is so funny because red pill is a bit like “therapy”, just a destructive version
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:36 PM
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Therapy is not always trying to cure things. And therapy can help with consequences of autism such as potential bad self esteem. Social skills training might be masking, but the issue with masking is that it is tiring - it’s still a good skill to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:35 PM
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Another thing: I remember an autistic guy mentioning how his friends thought that he would reject all the women that threw themselves over him. He said that was news to him - he hadn’t understood that they were flirting with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:32 PM
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There is a strong tendency for assortative mating in regards to autistic traits so I guess that’s more granular in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:31 PM
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Red pill might be more attractive because it presents a clear rule based system with an algorithm to follow. Blue pill advice, even when being more accurate, often isn’t framed in an autist friendly way. It relies a lot on ”intuition” and just ”reading the room” while the red pill explains things. Like you mentioned, the feeling that appereance matters might be more evident when good looks actually can compensate to a degree. This is a common experience among women with autism - feeling like the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:30 PM
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Around their interests! Look up common special interests in autistic women. Online, in autistic groups for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:12 AM
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You’re an idiot
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:27 PM
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Well, mindset then. A ”system” through which you explain behaviour instead of assesing every new situation in a nuanced way in all shades of grey.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:26 PM
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No why are you saying this? Looks help but it only takes you thus far. OP, listen to handsome people with autism. Even pretty autistic women have relationship issues to a much much much higher degree than others. That’s more true for men. Work on your body, style and so on but don’t expect it to be a magic solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:17 PM
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Autistic women are 10x more likely to want an autistic partner. People practice assortative mating. So find women who show autistic traits and the luck will intresse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:16 PM
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Try to fake it, as if you’re playing threatre
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:15 PM
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And to be attracted to a simple system that follows certain general rules. It gives you an algorithm to follow. However - it’s not neccesarily the correct one. A whopping 20% of self identified incels have autism and it rises to above 50% when accounting for self diagnosed autism. The only pill that needs to be taken is the autism pill - social difficulties in particular will make dating hard. But some general self improvement tips such as getting a sense of style, working out, improving your so…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:12 PM
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Not all countries have mandatory conscription for men. Many have strong societal support for female conscription.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 03:55 AM
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Feelings being valid =/= feelings corresponding to facts
/r/MensRights22/06/23 03:50 AM
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I mean, women outperform men in maths and physics and have a higher percentage of top grades as well… As for interests. A study done in my country showed that while differences in agentic and communal goals (women agentic goals to the same degree as do men but also care more about things that they subjectively perceive as being for the benefit of society/humanity) can explain some of the gender difference, most was statistically explained by belief in competence unrelated to actual competence an…
/r/MensRights02/04/23 11:02 AM
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Which again is such a wrong way of conceptualising this, and gender differences in terms of intelligence has decreased. Point is, this doesn’t matter, and does not explain the gender ratio imbalance at all.
/r/MensRights02/04/23 10:54 AM
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”Egalitarian” does not mean gender neutral, and these countries have some of the most prevalent gender stereotypes in regards to fields and gender in the world.
/r/MensRights02/04/23 10:52 AM
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That’s not what I mean, I’m talking about how things like status or perception is not something that is unequivocally shared among different subgroups of a population. If you’re an engineer you have studied statistics so I’d assume that you understand how to analyse data (and how to interpret it)? Thus, it’s pretty obvious that these answers are not relevant at all in regards to specific demographics and that it certainly doesn’t have to mean that someone who disagrees somehow is a rare exceptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:18 PM
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They did a similar one in my country. Carpenter on top, engineer second. Probably different demographics answering i.e. ”mode” answer doesn’t have to tell us much at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:12 PM
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Except, ”most common” or ”average” doesn’t tell us much about a distribution at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 05:05 PM
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When I was younger I was less attractive (and I'm still young, so it's more that I lost some not so attractive excess facial fat) and I think I was treated better back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:35 PM
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Reaaaaally depends on her own socioeconomic background. I'd certainly marry an engineer over a policeman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:31 PM
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Poorly paid relative to the US. Good pay relative to the national average, but a smaller wage distribution overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:30 PM
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Not really the case
/r/ExRedPill23/03/23 08:40 PM
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Well, compared to someone who is average? I mean, this is true for intelligent women as well. If you want to find someone with equal intelligence and you’re around 3 SD over average, you don’t have that many people to chose from…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/23 08:39 PM
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Yeah, intelligence is correlated with humour.
/r/ExRedPill23/03/23 08:38 PM
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Intelligence is associated with a long term orientation in relationships and a preference for monogamy. In addition, it’s likely that people with higher IQ are around other people with high IQ. Lastly, being very far from the average will make it harder to interact with an average person. The same goes for women. Some study showed that 130 or so wasn’t as attractive as being slightly above average to the average person. For women we can see that men like intelligence but that it’s not a positive…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/23 08:37 PM
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Is it really like that though? I've been skeptical when someone has earned more than twice my income, which is in the 75th percentile approximately.
/r/ExRedPill04/03/23 11:03 PM
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"To me, there is something special about being first, but FWB culture today makes 'sex' be basically transactional which I dislike heavily." Somewhat more common for women to agree with your view here
/r/ExRedPill04/03/23 10:53 PM
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I’d leave someone like that
/r/ExRedPill04/03/23 04:30 PM
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Yes, that’s what we can possibly see studies suggesting: women like confident nice guys, and dislike both ”submissive” and ”bad guys”. Being nice is a prerequisite for confidence being attractive. Some people mention anecdotes of ”bad guys” getting the girl but the question arises whether the women knew those sides of them.
/r/ExRedPill18/02/23 01:59 PM
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About dopamine: Dopamine is involved in motor behaviour, motivation, attention but also happiness. Dopamine does not affect the experience of pleasure but rather the desire to obtain and search for pleasure. I’d recommend to not focus that much on the neuropsychological aspect of it. It easily ends up as broscience and even among neuropsychological research, this isn’t perfectly understood. The ”female advantage” in regards to instant gratification is very small, it’s mostly an individual trait.
/r/ExRedPill18/02/23 01:02 AM
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Yes, and confidence interacting with prosocial traits is a prerequisite for confidence being perceived as attractive. My point however is that they misunderstand what is meant beliving that DT in itself is attractive - when they themselves in actuality are higher in those traits.
/r/ExRedPill18/02/23 12:34 AM
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Autists are overrepresented among men that identify as incels, but not everyone that is involuntary celibate identifies with the incel movement let alone is a redpiller. I think this is a very important distinction to make and a lot of manosphere guys aren’t incels at all (but benefit from portraying themselves as victims). It’s natural that someone with worse social skills end up struggling with relationships or that people who are more prone to study subjects with a skewed gender ratio don’t f…
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 04:26 PM
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Ok, I’m assuming that you’re a layperson so let me explain: Personality disorders are being reconceptualised. We’re moving towards a dimensional trait model and in particular one based on the Big 5. Incels score higher in social dominance orientation, sexual entitlement, suspiciousness towards women - their ideology is also based on a mentality of ”obtaining benefits”.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 02:42 PM
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Being hateful and disagreeable is exactly what they think is attractive. In the end, they end up having hateful beliefs. Autism is overrepresented among incels. However - I differentiate between identifying as an incel and being part of the manosphere.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 12:13 PM
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They don’t care. Their ideology bases itself of the assumption that there is a female imperative and a male imperative and that these are in conflict. The aim is to obtain as much for your self - relationships are seen as a negotiation table where you’re supposed to maximise the value you get. By that definition it means that the aim is to make it as beneficial for you as possible and as disadvantageous for her as possible. In short, they don’t care. It’s even part of the goal so to speak.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 02:49 AM
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Yes you are, I’m not going to bother though like I said. I know that not everyone learns that much scientific methodology as not all fields seem very bothered, and I actually doubt your claim as nobody who has done that would claim that a theory is ”fact” nor would have that (lack of) understanding of the scientific field, the situation for researchers and so on. This is just silly.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/23 12:43 PM
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You’re rather ill informed, both in regards to that but also in regards to the process of publishing, but I’ll leave it for now.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/23 11:33 AM
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Never stay with someone who doesn't respect women
/r/ExRedPill15/02/23 10:11 AM
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”Psychology is one of the least cut and dry” - yes, from the natural sciences.
/r/ExRedPill14/02/23 03:56 PM
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I’m studying to become a psychologist and evolutionary psychology, but honestly everything regarding evolution, is not scientific in the sense that these people belive (that doesn't mean that I support creationism) - nor is it supposed to be used in the way they use it (I think they don’t understand the difference between a hypothesis, theory, law etc.)
/r/ExRedPill14/02/23 03:55 PM
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Also you aren’t average but above average. How do you talk to women? In what field do you work? Something engineering like? Else, meaning if you’re anything else than an engineer it almost feels like trolling…
/r/ExRedPill14/02/23 07:41 AM
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Think of the gender ratio on dating apps…
/r/ExRedPill14/02/23 07:39 AM
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Yes of course, the influence from outside can be through epigenetic processes. That was implied.
/r/ExRedPill04/02/23 01:09 PM
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It’s a bit more common, but you are right in that they are favoured more
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 07:18 PM
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I mean, our ”programming” doesn’t change. That doesn’t mean that we can’t change and there are some studies suggesting that social media and such can vontribute.
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 07:15 PM
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We don’t have any methods sophisticated enough to take away social conditioning when analysing gender differences. Things that have a biological underpinning also interact with the social environment, and even so, the plasticity of the brain makes it hard to make conclusions of structural differences, gender, and the subsequent relationship to behaviour. The brain is extremely complex. Sociosexual orientation is one of the main differences between men and women, and even there we are more alike …
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 01:54 AM
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I think you weren’t able to comprehend - more women are voluntarily single. Among older single people, less men are voluntarily single and are more often involuntary single.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 03:02 PM
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Oh it certainly lessens his options. Besides the fact that young women aren’t interested in him, there is a reason why he was single to begin with. But as people get older, more men are involuntarily single than women. His ”wealth and status” isn’t really something to bargain with in these contexts. And this is wrong. In these circles, men don’t want to marry women only because they are ”young and pretty” unless they themselves are also young - but the opportunities for casual sex or prostitutio…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 01:38 PM
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What sort of false dichotomy is this? If he is single himself at 45 there is a good reason for that.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 02:12 AM
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Yes, that’s exactly the type of men I’m talking about haha…
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 09:33 PM
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He is very much in the wrong. Generally, men with lower socioeconomic status tend to care less. Men in my social circle tend to prefer a highly educated woman and for many it's even a requirement.
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 05:58 PM
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I get more attention, but I also look better now. However, I still get too much attention from people who I consider to be predatory (they aren't the explicit creeps, I think TRP would call them "high value").
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 05:57 PM
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University educated women are less likely to be singled or divorced in the first place
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 05:49 PM
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There is an age difference, but there are no differences between men and women. Why would a woman want to date a man who disdains intellect? It's mostly engineering where men are overrepresented (most men don't study engineering either, so it doesn't say much about women but rather a specific subtype off men) but women are the majority in almost all universities. Is it any different for men? Don't you think those women consider it a problem that a smaller percentage of men are democratic or femi…
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 05:30 PM
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Most people I know just use social media to share their lives with their friends
/r/ExRedPill29/01/23 11:46 AM
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Yet these people know very little about actual leadership. A leader is ultimately at the ”mercy” of the followers.
/r/ExRedPill23/01/23 04:22 PM
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And even among primates: there was a documentary about how one ”alpha gorilla” was killing babies and other type of ruthless behaviour - so the ”beta gorillas” ganged up and killed him.
/r/ExRedPill23/01/23 04:21 PM
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Datepsych writes about this
/r/ExRedPill23/01/23 08:12 AM
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”Why would the richest men be with the most attractive female models” - you don’t realise what’s different with those so called relarionships?
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 11:08 AM
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You didn't answer the question at all and also explain a bell curve somewhat wrong - in what way do the small differences in terms of the averages for men and women override the vast differences between individuals that are far greater in terms of making a brief judgment or guess? And that is ignoring the fact that an individual is a data point, not an average.
/r/ExRedPill18/01/23 04:28 PM
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In what way do these rather small differences in terms of averages override individual differences?
/r/ExRedPill18/01/23 09:37 AM
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Fully agree
/r/ExRedPill17/01/23 08:11 PM
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Also called cost inflicting mate retention tactics - which is associated with a man being insecure about his own mate value and perceiving the woman to be above him in mate value.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/23 05:57 PM
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They are: - Emotional, not driven by logic - Admire other men, dislike women - Insecure and obsessed about how they are perceived - No true purpose in life - Submissive to other men, don't care about women - Obsessed with appereance Not manly at all...
/r/ExRedPill14/01/23 11:43 PM
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The first is a summary written by me. The latter is a quote from a study. A statistical term, probably easier to Google.
/r/ExRedPill14/01/23 07:12 AM
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This was sadly a long time ago
/r/ExRedPill14/01/23 06:54 AM
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I found some things I wrote here in regards to how men and women love differently. Remember these are differences re averages, the main difference is between individuals. Women are more oriented to friendship oriented and practical love, and men game-playing love. This was unrealted to sexuality fwiw. Men report having been in love more often, but women more deeply. Men having a sexually permissive attitude (in regards to themselves, wanting to have casual sex) tends to correlate with game playi…
/r/ExRedPill14/01/23 06:47 AM
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I would suggest talking to a psychologist about this in order to get accurate information, else there are subreddits related to that. A lot of broscience around. Are you thinking of women? It’s more common to display HPD or BPD in women, however that can be perceived as ”narcissistic” as both are cluster B diagnoses. The reason why TRP doesn’t help people avoid narcissism is because it’s ideology is based on a narcissistic way of thinking.
/r/ExRedPill12/01/23 09:25 AM
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In the end, they are very ”socially oriented”, as they rely on the environment for their feeling of self worth, whoch they lack inherently and gain from admiration, power etc. Other people might be content with who their are without all that and don’t need the environmet for that, which ironically tends to upset the narcissist. There is a saying from a book iirc: “One wants to be loved, in lack thereof admired, in lack thereof feared, in lack thereof loathed and despised. One wants to instil som…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 05:21 PM
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You can’t get a diagnosis if you can function fully. Having some above average narcissistic traits might be beneficial, but it’s a chicken and egg question. People with narcissistic trait might be richer let’s say, but is that because they are rewarded or because they chose to search out professions or positions that are associated with money, status or power? If we make a gendered comparison, a common way to attract more men to a profession is to increase the pay, a common way to make women cho…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 05:13 PM
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Oh I can very much understand that. There is obviously indivifual variation and people in managerial positions might tend towards a certain type of character, less cooperative maybe.
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 05:02 PM
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Scandinavia. When talking about cultures there is something a divide between ”affective” and ”neutral” cultures, where scandinavian countries fall under neutral. It’s seen as a sign of dignity and respect to restrain emotions, and it is valued in order to make more constructive and rational decisions. In Scandinavia you sometimes have ”family counsils” where you discuss things through together and so on. This also obviously effects the ”value” we see in emotions. If you don’t express them much, …
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 04:33 PM
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Rational discussion. In my culture, as adults it’s not considered normal to almost ever ”fight or scream”. Complain about others certainly exists, but to be calm and collected is considered expected adult/mature behaviour. The example you bring up re rational discussion is pretty normal here.
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 04:13 PM
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I think that is very very individual. That’s certainly how it works for many people.
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 03:33 PM
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There was some study on this and almost all RP traits are considered low status
/r/ExRedPill31/12/22 09:10 PM
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Yes
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 11:40 PM
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In practice, men want larger penises than do women. 80% of women are satisfied, whereas 20% of men are or something like that. The ideal women mention is around average. However... since men care much about it, it is associated with self confidence and not needing to overcompensate. So that's what is meant. However, I agree.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 07:08 PM
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And it doesnt support it for men only.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 04:43 AM
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Some women have restricted sociosexual orientation ie less interest in casual sex
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 04:42 AM
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Men I talked with irl say that they don’t go around and think of who is most attractive all the time or compare appereances. They see their wives and she is pretty, that’s it. This idea of always wanting and needing the most attractive mate and comparing sounds rather narcissistic to me.
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 12:16 AM
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A survey from Norway showed that men at 30 want women that are 27 or so for LTR and 26 for STR. Oh and another study. Men fantasise about younger partners more than do women… but also older ones. Men simply seem more flexible in their tastes. But I understand how you feel and I also do not want to be ”settled for” or him secretly desiring someone younger.
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 12:04 AM
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That's absurd. For what it's worth most people I know that study those things either do research or become high school teachers, which gives you a rather good income (where I live). (70th-85th percentile and then at middle age 90th percentile).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:26 PM
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Hi, I’ll pm you
/r/ExRedPill28/12/22 08:59 AM
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Make friends with women to know how to socially interact with them
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 12:13 AM
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While I understand your point and I agree on some of this, I don’t see how that would suddenly make you appealed by alt right or Andrew Tate? I think this is a problem in the US where politics is a fotball team. In Europe the alternative would not be two polarised opinions or views, but a spectrum.
/r/ExRedPill17/12/22 02:48 PM
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Yes, height is an attractive trait in men, as is having an athlethic physique or nice face. Being slim or having a low WHR or a beautiful face is in women. Some women will not care however. It is not all that matters. Men can find a woman attractive without her being his 10/10.
/r/ExRedPill16/12/22 06:20 PM
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Men tend to on average prefer a woman that is 8 cm shorter than him, but it’s not that important for women. It is a much more important factor for men than it is for women.
/r/ExRedPill16/12/22 06:13 PM
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Indeed. There is however support for women likning it... Point is however that women dislike hostile sexism, and hostile sexism in absence of benevolent sexism (misogynism) is associated with men being of ”lower mate status”. Yet this is the behaviour TRP promotes. 🤷‍♀️
/r/ExRedPill16/12/22 02:07 AM
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Like I said, there is also a difference between popular guys and guys that spend a lot of time and energy to get women. Men that sleep around a lot would probably be more prepccupied with a woman’s physicality, and talk about women in ways that can be objectifying. However that’s the same for women that sleep around, I don’t think they are bothered by that.
/r/ExRedPill15/12/22 04:10 PM
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Both hostile and benevolent would mean that no? But hostile would lead to negative consequences for a woman and benevolent positive.
/r/ExRedPill15/12/22 03:10 PM
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I think I’d know more in this regard. I’m a woman and know wha women in the wider sense go for, not only what a small group does, in addition women tend to know and have interact with a wider variety of men than do many men. Now of course some of these men tend to be more obsessed about finding women. That’s another question. Often some men tend to project a lot of bad attitudes and qualities onto the men that are more popular. The ”jerk jock” stereotype. Which is very funny because women are mo…
/r/ExRedPill15/12/22 02:45 PM
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I think I’d know more in this regard. I’m a woman and know wha women in the wider sense go for, not only what a small group does, in addition women tend to know and have interact with a wider variety of men than do many men. Now of course some of these men tend to be more obsessed about finding women. That’s another question. Often some men tend to project a lot of bad attitudes and qualities onto the men that are more popular. The ”jerk jock” stereotype.
/r/ExRedPill15/12/22 02:40 PM
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It is actual inner confidence (not performative confidence), which is also associated with being agreeable with women. Their behaviour is associated with low mate confidence, which makes their ”high value man” even more silly. Not only women roll their eyes but men too. These guys have never interacted with the successful or popular or prestigeful guys.
/r/ExRedPill15/12/22 08:46 AM
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White knighting means a man that will defenf women and holds them in high regard. Behaving like a simp is being a ”simpleton” and that would maybe be doing things for sexual favours but they call all men that aren’t misogynists simps.
/r/ExRedPill15/12/22 08:42 AM
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Right and beveolent sexism is applied to women specifically. Protectibg women from violence for example - men are more at risk for violence than women. Often there is a favourable behaviour towards women conpared to men from most men. But that is liked.
/r/ExRedPill15/12/22 08:37 AM
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No, but I think the reason a lot of these are seen as sexist by that definition is that it is a positive evaulation of women, which is done under a frame work of inequality. ”Women need to be protected from violence” would be benevolently sexist maybe because men are more at risk from violence. Essentially treating men and women differently. I disagree on calling everhthibg here sexist, but the point is that while women might like ”women have special capabilities of this and that”, positive gend…
/r/ExRedPill15/12/22 08:35 AM
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Yes, because they are a bit two sides of the same coin. Women are worse at X vs women are really good at Y. What TRP promotes is however hostile sexism in the absence of benevolent sexism.
/r/ExRedPill15/12/22 08:32 AM
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The guys that ”slay” aren’t misogynistic. The men that ”slay” like women and tend to have no reason to be misogynistic. I only know of people that lack success with women that are misogynistic.
/r/ExRedPill15/12/22 08:30 AM
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Women seem to like ”benevolent sexism” in men, which is what TRP calls ”white knighting” and ”simping”. Hostile sexism in absence of benevolent sexism is what constitutes TRP ideology and is also the behaviour TRP promotes to show ”high value”. That is misogynism. However, this behaviour is associated with men seeing themselves as low mate value. It might not neccesarily constitute actual desireability in other domains, but shows how the men see themselves. I think women know this subconsciously…
/r/ExRedPill14/12/22 07:08 PM
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Yes, I’m totally against that too. But the behaviour of older women showing interest in younger men shows that this is not a gendered thing where women ”lose value” and men ”gain it”. But yes, a lot of younger people think that they are special for having older people show attention. And works like an ego boost. I think young men might be even more at risk than young women for this.
/r/ExRedPill07/12/22 07:54 PM
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Haha, there was Tumblr once upon a time, but they decided to ban NSFW stuff.
/r/ExRedPill07/12/22 01:37 PM
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You are not pointing studies to show that. When looking about what the other gender prioritizes, looks are about equally important but slightly more important to men. Also, no that’s not true and you lack ability to understand what they mean. Men DO NOT PEAK AT 50! I’m sorry but you as a man have no say in that 😂 The fact that middle aged women are less picky and swipe on more men does not mean that men peak at 50, that’s so absurd? Very few young women want to date men that are not equal age wi…
/r/ExRedPill06/12/22 09:55 PM
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But that’s something completely different lol, I also explained how women think in that matter in terms of age and that is that we think subjectively. That statistic is irrelevant though, it’s not what is being talked about here. Point is, men care only slightly more about appereance while it is pretty equal how much it is valued, women care more about everything else. Your points don’t matter. Dating apps is not relevant nor representative and probably reflects that women at his equal age are l…
/r/ExRedPill06/12/22 08:36 PM
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The study did not claim that, the study showed that men don’t adjust their preference for who might be a suitable partner. Men care marginally more about appereance, women care more about everything else ending up as having higher standards overall. Men don’t peak in value at 30-40 because women don’t need men’s money like that, we live in the west. That’s why women in their 20s prefer men in their 20s. Men in their 20s have enough. But sure, if he wants to buy sex then he’ll have more money for…
/r/ExRedPill06/12/22 07:23 PM
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Pretty much no men maintain looks in their 50s. Brad Pitt is like, top 1% in genetics and also aging and plastic surgery. And honestly, Brad Pitt doesn’t look good to me at all. He is old and wrinkly. Looks like he could be my dad honestly. Yet my dad aged less than did Brad Pitt. Nobody says ”Oh but look at Sophia Vegara and compare to Brendan Fraser - women age better”. Thank god that women have money nowadays, we can chose men that we find good looking instead of wrinkly old grandpas with mon…
/r/ExRedPill06/12/22 03:41 PM
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Ah, I see your name ends with 69. You are basically as old as my dad. Explains it. ”BuT bRaD PiTt”…
/r/ExRedPill06/12/22 01:41 PM
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Lmao! I can say personally and I discussed this with my mum. She only looks at men her age now but when I ask her when my father was the most attractive she said when they met. My dad was 27 then. Most women don’t like younger men because we see their personalities as off putting and don’t see them as potential partners. But no man considered attractive in older age such as 40 actually looks 40. I also know no woman in her 30s who has casual sex with men over 30. My 29 year old friend who dates …
/r/ExRedPill06/12/22 01:39 PM
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I mean, I read a study on this and looks matter marginally more, but the difference is small. The big difference is that everything else matters more for men. And also, men age as well and I know no woman that wants a relationship with an older man. So in reality both people age and have to deal with that. Large age gaps… That’s a third world thing where women are poor and even then the largest averages globally is six years. In one of these countries the average age gap is rapidly decreasing. I…
/r/ExRedPill06/12/22 01:20 PM
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I’m already in a happy relationship, it just takes a toll on my mental health. And yes, ”poison your old husband” is a joke for a reason.
/r/ExRedPill06/12/22 01:15 PM
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Women put marginally less emphasis on appereance. The different is not large at all. Brad Pitt and Jason Momoa are liked by old ladies and Hollywood simply likes repeating people. The people that watch those movies the most are not women my age so they need to appeal to them. No woman I know minus one with severe daddy issues likes old men. The fact that women might find some men still good looking is more telling of them aging well and being attractive to start with. And the people that like Br…
/r/ExRedPill05/12/22 07:55 PM
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Someone asked me whether I had a parent with me at the library a week ago so… 😅
/r/ExRedPill05/12/22 07:41 PM
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Oh and. I have zero signs of aging now at 24. I doubt I will look aged at 29 or 30…
/r/ExRedPill05/12/22 07:01 PM
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I mean, I haven't been suicidal but "maybe I'll stay alone with cats" is a thought I definitely entertained. It's stupid because the women in my family even age rather well, so I just don't see the point at all...
/r/ExRedPill05/12/22 04:52 PM
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Yes exactly plus men even around 30 which I don't consider old, that showed interest when I was 20 were not great quality so to speak... When 50 year old men go for age gap relationships it's usually a woman that is 40. Else it's the normal +- 0-3 (or 5) years... And it definitely is a revenge fantasy. It doesn't happen.
/r/ExRedPill05/12/22 04:51 PM
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Yes, I mean. These men claim that a woman at 20 is more desirable for a relationship than someone at 27 if a man is 30. But as I myself approach 30, the quality of men that show interest goes up. The men that wanted me as a 20 year old for a relationship really aren't men I would have considered anyway.
/r/ExRedPill05/12/22 04:48 PM
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I mean the fact that the men around 30 that showed interest when I was 20 were total creeps supports this narrative. Most people I know in real life would argue similarly, that there is a to big gap in terms of maturity or life experiences or even goals. And yes, I do think some men look better in their second half of their 20s, but that's not aging to me. That's still being young...
/r/ExRedPill05/12/22 04:08 PM
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Yes I mean, it's just extremely rare, very few men do that and even less women want an older man. I mean, it's not really a thing here either. Plus... the men get older too!
/r/ExRedPill05/12/22 03:36 PM
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You are very wrong and it seems like you still are in your "Red pill"-mindset repeating this fantasy that women don't care about looks so that they can delude themselves that their value has increased at fifty which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. No it's not "mostly about personality for a man". Or rather, it's mostly personality for both men and women as the factor warmth is prioritized both by men and women. There are studies on this and men care ever so slightly more about appearance t…
/r/ExRedPill05/12/22 03:17 PM
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Both honestly
/r/ExRedPill05/12/22 02:57 PM
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I’m not sure? It’s as if I can’t imagine life with my partner when I’m old and in my head, unattractive. I don’t like this because before I wasn’t afraid of aging at all, and I don’t feel like it’s as much of a thing here in Europe as it is in the US.
/r/ExRedPill05/12/22 02:42 PM
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Yes I mean everyone ages differently and in different rates. I think that since I’m a heterosexual woman I already have a bias against women so the threshold to perceive women as bad looking is very low. I mean, realistically aging is a privilege. People that don’t age die young. Signs of aging affect both men and women and a lot of it isn’t even in terms of looks but just health related. In practice both my parents, above 50, seem happy about their relationship…
/r/ExRedPill05/12/22 02:35 PM
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Being rejected four times is nothing
/r/ExRedPill02/12/22 05:33 PM
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There is something called constructive conflict but arguments are important. You can't just let her walk over you. You could maybe go to couples therapy.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 10:12 PM
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You are not martyred, but I agree that this is unfair. She can not hit you. At the same time, it's ok for her to have trauma, but she should go to therapy (if possible). She can't dump it all on you. But you need to put out your boundaries.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 09:25 PM
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What does it even mean? You want someone with own standards, but that’s not weird at all.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 07:03 PM
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This will maybe break her heart. You seem to have an addictive personality.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 06:31 PM
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Either you aren’t made for monogamy or you have an addiction.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 06:14 PM
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I always think the man is better looking but I’m a strictly heterosexual woman.
/r/ExRedPill26/11/22 06:59 PM
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The woman is someone you want, the guy someone you want to be. Natural to rate like that then.
/r/ExRedPill26/11/22 05:44 PM
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Being obsessed is a sign of insecure attachment. It’s not healthy.
/r/ExRedPill26/11/22 12:37 PM
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I’m always sceptical of ”the guy was much hotter” claims. Somehow the manosphere sees it all the time, yet studies show most couples are matched. The manosphere has always been weirdly homoerotic so there is that…
/r/ExRedPill26/11/22 12:35 PM
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Usually abstracts are enough :)
/r/ExRedPill07/11/22 02:36 AM
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But it decreases the sex 😅
/r/ExRedPill07/11/22 02:32 AM
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