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DiscussionSartreK/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 07:59 PM
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(edit: moved to automod given the OP flair) As a sexually dominant man who is into D/s but not objectification, I'll just remark, to prevent any misunderstanding (*), that: D/s does not in any way imply nor require objectification. while there is undeniably some subset of D/s-minded (or more generally kinky) people who are into kinks that could be described as "objectification" or have a link to that, that's far from all and it's not at all something that would be representative of D/s per se. f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:57 PM
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As a sexually dominant man who is into D/s but not objectification, I'll just remark, to prevent any misunderstanding (*), that: D/s does not in any way imply nor require objectification. while there is undeniably some subset of D/s-minded (or more generally kinky) people who are into kinks that could be described as "objectification" or have a link to that, that's far from all and it's not at all something that would be representative of D/s per se. for a lot of D/s-minded people, dominance and…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:30 AM
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First of all, sexual revolution has been great for casual sex I understand that this is seen as an advantage by people who are into casual sex (i.e. unrestricted sociosexual orientation), but for men (and women) with a restricted sociosexual orientation (i.e. not wanting casual sex but a LTR and sex only within that LTR) the consequences of that societal transition to hookup culture are absolutely shite, in that it has led to a situation where the majority of people have become totally incapable…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:46 AM
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Next thing to be introduced would be the Super Divorce. Anyways, there's no point in a "Super Threesome with the State".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 10:42 AM
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Isn't bodycount a test for honesty, loyalty and trustworthiness? That's already way too much of an abstraction, missing the actual point of n-count as empirical evidence. The real point of n-count is that it is a strong empirical evidence/indicator of the likelihood that you will just end up being some n+1 in a serial pattern rather than having a lasting long-term partner. Of course, "honesty, loyalty and trustworthiness" are all factors that have a partial influence on that, but that's rather i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 10:15 PM
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I would expect that business to fail pretty quickly. Indeed: here's what it looks like
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:34 PM
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hire all female employees, and see how that works out for you... Here's an example of a woman who did just that… didn't turn out the way she had hoped.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:29 PM
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Every praxeology has an ideology behind it. Aside from the fact that this isn't even really the case here (the fact that there are, for various reasons, overlaps between redpillers and the adherents of a variety of ideologies doesn't change that and shouldn't be confused with it), that's fallacious reasoning anyways. It's like saying every praxeology has people behind it, or a context. A praxeology has lots of things "behind it"… doesn't change the fact that it's totally absurd nonsense to confu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:45 PM
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That's a very poor distinction to make since ideology and praxeology are two aspects of every movement. no offense, but that's kinda the lamest attempt at a justification for confounding two totally different things. The ideology of communism is that capitalist economies are unfair to the working class, and the praxeology is to launch a revolution to forcibly change the system. That reads like you have absolutely no clue about what a praxeology even is. As for the attempt to project ideology ont…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:29 PM
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while I'm neither a partisan of TRP nor of communism, I'd say the analogy between the two is rather poor and unfitting. TRP isn't an ideology (like communism or feminism) but a praxeology, so it's really quite the opposite of communism in that respect. And the variability between the views on TRP by different self-describing redpillers are basically simply about how different people with different backgrounds have different views on what parts of that praxeology they find important. Which is som…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:00 PM
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Hmm let's see what actual statistical evidence over the course of history says about that: Throughout history, queens were more likely to wage war than kings Female rulers over the past 500 years have waged war more often than kings by a 27% margin
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:25 PM
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Maybe tattoo shops should give customers the option to pay for their tattoos with a loan…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 01:14 PM
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I wonder what the Brexit referendum results would have been if Cummings and BoJo hadn't promised to use their fantasy quantification of EU net payments for the NHS but for a free university system. Never mind the fact that that would of course have been just as much a lie as that NHS promise. But then again, maybe in a couple years, with a privatized NHS, going to the hospital or doctor might come with an option to take up a loan to pay for the exploding cost of medical bills. Just like student …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 01:02 PM
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For someone who apparently would like to be a dom, you strike me as having an enornously external locus of control. Which is terribly un-dom-like and will be a major obstacle in finding a sub. They can smell that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:53 AM
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Keep repeating yourself that your problems are not on your side but in the stats, if it helps you cope. It will just prevent you from solving your actual problem (which has nothing to do with kink stats). Again: Us actual doms don't have that problem at all. And you don't need to specifically search for a woman already openly identifying as a sub. They pretty much all are sub anyways. Today.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:49 AM
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It's still exactly the same today. Human nature doesn't change. So your idea that the stats would suddenly invert is bullcrap. You live in a parallel world. Anyways: As I repeatedly pointed out: Us actual doms have no problem finding female subs. All you have to do is to find a woman you fancy (you don't even have to specifically look for a sub, as they almost all are), attract her, and gently introduce her to kink to allow her to live out her submissive fantasies. So if you do have problems fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:44 AM
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Wikipedia is not a great source.... what part of "the studies referenced" did you not understand? that vague study proves my point it totally contradicts it. the vast majority of men are dominant ahm nope. The difference between Dom and sub is much smaller on the male side than the inverse between sub females and domme females. Besides, again, most females (even outside those who openly identify as kinky) are subs. It's just that females are more shy about openly flaunting their kinky side. So l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:34 AM
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For example the studies mentioned here, just to pull the first search engine result An attractive, submissive woman is extremely rare. Hell, a submissive woman under 140 pounds basically doesn't exist. Yeah well, attractive women are rare in the USA. Has nothing to do with kink orientation. Anyways, now You bring citations for your weird inverted kink stats world view
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:26 AM
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In reality. 95% of kinky women are dommes dude, repeating that nonsense invesion of the actual stats doesn't make it right. The stats are well known in the kink world. And they are consistent. Us male Doms have no problems finding subs. The guys who are fucked by the stats are the male subs. If you really have problems finding a female sub, that has nothing to do with the kink stats and everything to do with other factors. Maybe you're ugly, bad at giving tingles, don't come over as dom enough… …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:18 AM
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Sub women are rare In what parallel world? about 95% of kinky females are subs, and even the majority of women who don't openly identify as kinky are subs (who just need to be gently introduced to kink). Finding female subs is no problem at all. So If you have a problem finding a female sub, your problem has nothing to do whatsoever with kink statistics and everything to do with totally kink-unrelated stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 04:04 AM
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LOL. In your dreams. It's the exact opposite, as is well known. Not that I'd complain, I'm dom. But for male subs, the statistics are a shitty situation, precisely because the female doms are a very small minority of kinky women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 03:24 AM
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It's a weird idea to try to pin the marriage numbers to such factors. Marriage rates were much higher in historical times when the economy and people were a lot poorer than now and the "wealth gap" was a lot higher. edit: also, marriage rates are typically higher in poorer 3rd world countries than in richer countries
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 09:51 PM
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Leave. All of these cases would be proof of a fundamental incompatibility in our views on romantic love and monogamy (i.e. a proof that the very basis for a relationship would be inexistent with her)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:09 PM
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that link works without problems on firefox
/r/PussyPassDenied22/05/20 05:21 AM
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The idea that there would even be such a thing as an "iron clad prenup" is a dangerous illusion. Depending on which judge handles the divorce, her mood and what she ate for breakfast, even a prenup believed to be "iron clad" isn't worth shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 02:14 AM
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Nope. Instant hard next. "forgive" wouldn't be the fitting word. I'd do my best to move on and forget her Cheating (even "once") would … be a total deal breaker by itself eliminate the possibility to ever trust her again be the proof of a fundamental incompatibility in our views on romantic love and monogamy (i.e. a proof that the very basis for a relationship would be inexistent with her) Besides (and independently of the above) it would be totally lousy risk management to believe that if that …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 02:08 AM
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LTRs were unreliable sex due to erratic schedules and not doing the move in together thing. so it really had nothing whatsoever to do with marriage vs LTR (without marriage) but just with living apart vs living together. Lots of LTR couples live together.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 01:21 AM
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Sure, why not, it's her choice. One question that might be weird though if both sides have different surnames is: what surname will the children have? Personally, I think that an even better model would be that both sides change their name for a new name that they come up with together. Would be bonding and side-neutral. But that's not a model the state would play along with. Which brings us back to a more basic problem: the whole "which name" question really only comes up when turning the coupl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 03:03 AM
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There's this guy, forgot his name, who wrote about the types of communication in love relationships probably refering to the book "The Five Love Languages" by Gary Chapman
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 01:52 PM
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^ this. Also: it's just the hypocrite covert way of saying "let's do 1950's sexist rules… the guy pays".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 01:06 PM
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Throwing "incel" as a meaningless and absurd insult against people and comments that clearly aren't is just desperate and ridiculous bullshit rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:23 AM
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Remember how much shit everyone used to give girls who posted this dumbass quote? Apparently you don't remember WHY. It's because they misuse the quote as a rhetoric attempt to justify insufferable red flag behavior, behavioral traits or mentality (which won't get better) instead of the only situation where using that quote actually makes sense which is that of an upward slope of self improvement in factors that take an longer investment before coming to fruition (e.g. career, money, lifting, su…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 01:52 PM
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nichts ist unmöglich.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 06:01 PM
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however feminized or not it may be, I don't think that's the reason. Imho the reason is rather that women have enormously much more of an incentive than men to integrate into liberal Western culture given how oppressive Islam is to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 01:41 AM
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Warum nicht?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 01:36 AM
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Tell me, do you think this take is generalizable to all monotheistic religions? If so I disagree strongly. no, not ALL monotheistic religions. There are fringe outlier exceptions. For example, I wouldn't see Pastafarism or hellenistic period classical monotheism to fall under that observation. And many types of monotheistic beliefs mostly found outside of organized religion (such as pantheism, panentheism, deism, modern classical theism apart from dishonest religious apologists which try to use …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 03:34 AM
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I don't believe in secular love (…) There isn't a "one" who is going to be perfect and sweep me off my feet like in the Disney movies the latter is just one (and possibly the worst) out of many secular love models… In fact, one could say that that shitty model is flawed precisely in that it's not really secular at all (nor based on human reality) but instead modeled like religion and failing for the same reason: it relies on the unsubstantiated fantasy/hope projection that there would be some co…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 02:20 AM
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let's make that magazine name "Fascist Dictator Special" or "Fascist Dictator Strategy" then there would be a nice fitting acronym for it (the same as for "Food Digging Strategy")
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:51 PM
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Also, casual sex should never be totally free for the guy. If you women are just having sex for sex sake...why? Get a career prospect, connections, trips, or downright money for it. That's some next level transactional hoe think and whoring advocacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:46 PM
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The construction of the question seems kinda dishonest and loaded so as to add an artificial bias since: it first pretends to try to find out about the reverse case to the previous discussion about women's opinion on their partner watching porn but then adds a loaded "and doesn’t want your participation" that turns it into something totally different (opposed even) in principle to the case we had before Just as a reminder: the discussion we just had before about women's opinion was about porn as…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:03 PM
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no offense mate, but this is PurplePillDebate (see the subject and rules in the sidebar), not a personal advice sub. Maybe ask in r/Sex_Advice
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:33 AM
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Was she supposed to lie to her friend? For starters, she's not supposed to share the couples sexuality with her friend. Just like you don't share nudies of your partner with your friends. Sexuality is something intimate that is to be kept within the couple. Airing it to third parties is a breach of trust and red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:26 AM
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How do you talk to your friends about sex? You don't. Just like you don't share nudies of your partner with your friends. Sexuality is something intimate that is to be kept within the couple. Airing it to third parties is a breach of trust and red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:51 AM
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In the case of a long-term relationship built on lies committed by one side (here: a slut lying about her past), the "it takes two" rhetoric is just primitive victim blaming. All it really takes one liar. The victim isn't an "it takes two" side.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 07:14 AM
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So what proportion of ALL men does that minuscule niche subset of guys falling in love with sex workers represent? It's so totally minuscule and non-representative that it doesn't in any way constitute a serious obstacle to a general rule. Besides, those are mostly desperate guys without decent relationship options.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:04 AM
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just busted off brand femdom sure looks that way at first glance. Though it isn't even really dominance (as in: sane D/s dominance from an inner sexual/sensual/kink motivation) but rather parasitism motivated by greed and by bitterness turned to vengeful misandrism… and by dark triad traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:32 PM
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that has to be sarcasm. When she speaks, she's mostly patting herself on the shoulder for being such a wonderful philantropist… with the money of hubby.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:20 PM
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this seems so surreal… like you were born yesterday and straight into reddit without any social interaction or other information source. There's lots of liars and otherwise shitty people everywhere, women and men too, albeit the statistical distribution of goals they lie for differs. And those lies have been around for centuries at least, with loads and loads of books, novels, plays, articles, etc. warning about those common lies that are commonly found from women and men respectively to get wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 02:04 AM
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first of all, I'm not interested in fucking around. That's fundamentally opposed to my (romantic love) core principles so I would never even consider such an arrangement and any potential partner who would suggest it would be immediately nexted. But yes, i'd still call it cuckoldry. I wouldn't technically call it "cheating" though if a couple mutually agree on that kind of arrangement. Technically, "cheating" is an infraction to the mutually agreed upon rules. But I wouldn't agree to any arrange…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:22 AM
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that doesn't solve the main problem with this model though, which isn't about sex at all (If a guy wants to fuck around, why get married) but about its fundamental incompatibility with the most basic principle of romantic love, which is: mutual exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:11 AM
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that's just a lousy euphemism for cuckoldry. Monogamy (i.e. exclusivity) is the most basic pillars of any loving romantic relationship. Any relationship model where that is missing makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and is just disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:06 AM
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It's actually a simple principle that is waaay older than all of this whole blue/red pill stuff and FDS. Odd you'd have to learn it from that cesspool of toxic ideology, sexism and otherwise mostly terrible advice that is FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 01:00 AM
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Exactly. The correct strategy for women looking for a relationship is to NOT engage in casual sex but instead first make sure there is compatibility on the romantic/relationship side and that the guy is relationship-minded too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 12:22 AM
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that's the poorest possible attempt at wilful total misinterpretation I saw here in the past 2 weeks… even including purge. You really had to muster a huge level of intellectual dishonesty to get from simple well-known and common observation on RMV factors as: single parent is baggage that seriously lowers RMV (a factor just as commonly held among women towards single dads btw) CONSISTENT poor choices of partners are indicative of poor judgement (same, totally gender-neutrally common) having big…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:49 PM
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Food Digging Strategy. It's a subreddit for the gutter/trash ghetto variety of gold digging low value hoes with a transactional mindset to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:17 PM
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nope, low RMV value. Single mom is heavy baggage that tends to poison a relationship. Also: her consistently poor choices of previous partners doesn't speak for her at all. And no, her financial net worth doesn't factor into her RMV. Most men don't give a shit about her money (and those who do are LVM). Finally, "Victoria's Secret model" isn't something something that would give any RMV either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:12 PM
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Being low value simply mean that you’re an arrogant selfish piece of shit, not that you’re ugly, broke or a parent That's absurd. All of those can be reasons for low value. Low value by definition literally just means that people with options tend to not desire her… be it for a relationship (low RMV) or for sex (low SMV). For whatever reasons. So yes, even dealbreakers that wouldn't be of her own fault (e.g. being a single parent because the other parent left or being dumb because a roof tile fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:00 PM
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from a logical perspective, the cost for the tax payer isn't even an argument against paper abortion but against letting people without sufficient financial resources have children. Single moms without sufficient resources who decide to bring the kid into the world fatherless anyways are just one subcategory of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 11:48 PM
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Yeah they share the same mentality and are pretty much identical except for these details: while regular incels are spread among all sorts of demographic groups, the FDS populace is quite tightly concentrated within a rather narrow gutter trash demography while regular incels seem to have a realistic view of their sad situation, the FDS populace seems to hang on to that deluded dream that a "HWM" (A doormat with no spine but a wallet) white knight is out there for them and will come waltzing int…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 10:19 PM
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LOL…The lack of self-reflection: a worthless gutter trash whore ranting (in the most disgusting stereotypical ghetto language) about the fact that she has to "pick through a pile of shit" when it comes to men. The irony is big in with that one… and she seems totally unaware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:54 PM
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Yeah that's some refreshingly crude honesty. That being said, youtube pro tip: instead of writing "skip to 3:50", you can provide a url link to that specific time position by adding it (in seconds) as a url parameter like &t=230 appended to the url. Youtube will even provide that time-position link ready-made if you right-click on the video and choose "copy video URL at current time"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:15 PM
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No we don't. Not here in Western Europe anyways. The 1950s ended back in the 1950s here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 10:04 PM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 04:30 PM
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Exactly: religion is cringe. Which is likely one of the reasons why he explicitly doesn't want a religious girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 06:08 AM
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funny you'd mention the wave… while searching for the best TrigglyPuff vid to link above, I came across this other vid where the guy first poetically comments about the wave… and then the TrigglyPuff vid shows in slow motion. The more fascinating wave motion (that you can only see well in slow motion) is actually not even that of the arms as such but that of the fat ON the arms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 12:14 AM
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Yeah… imagine: willingly putting a baby into an existence without a father, and taking upon you the pregnancy, giving birth and all the consequences that being a single mom would have on your life… … just for the shits and giggles of making a guy you hooked up with pay child support. Looks like a good idea. For you… for the child… but fuck that, it's got to be worth it if only it makes him pay. Ha ha.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 11:55 PM
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Fat…true. But pink/blue hair is kinda old and busted. True third wave feminist hotness is: TrigglyPuff rage dance
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 11:34 PM
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If you ever wonder what taxpayer money is used for, have a look at this weird article in the Guardian some while ago: "The dolphin who loved me: the Nasa-funded project that went wrong".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 11:06 PM
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How is there an incentive to divorce for money? is that even a question? The possibility to leave just like that is not only granted but additionally rewarded… unilaterally. You could argue that there is an incentive to marry AND then get divorced for money. This means going into the marriage with that intent That's nonsense. The incentive is absolutely not relying on going in there with that intent. Quite to the contrary, It incentivizes just as well in the more common cases where the couples s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 10:42 PM
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I'm all in favor of commitment. But marriage sucks precisely for that. It gives a unilateral incentive to divorce for money. Which is BAD for stability and kids. Even if going with the delusion that building a minefield around the couple and shifting the dynamic from love to threat is a good idea for fostering a loving stable relationship (the contrary is the case), this here: Making it hard to simply pick up and leave is good for stability and raising kids isn't an argument for marriage but aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 10:08 PM
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ya think that's photoshop? couldn't it be done with makeup?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 09:39 PM
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and here I was thinking that the "DOS" in "DOSGAMES" referred to the old operating system and not to denial of service attacks executed for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 09:27 PM
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The generational drop in divorce rate i.e. millenials divorcing less (which is different from the divorce per marriage ratio) is mainly due to factors that do no, e.g. higher selectivity (indeed, when there are fewer marriages, that affects more the ends more at risk of divorce than the other end) and to factors that aren't advantageous to marriage. And it doesn't change the fact that the marriage rate has dropped to a record low. If the marriage rate continues dropping ever closer to 0, it woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 09:11 PM
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Divorce rates are actually going down The general divorce rates (in divorces per 1000 capita of the general population, not married people) are slightly going down… much slower than the marriage rates are falling.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:46 PM
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Yup. Toxic is exactly the word. For relationship-oriented people (with a more restricted sociosexual orientation i.e. who don't want casual no-string sex but a relationship with sex as a part of it) It has poisoned a large part of the dating pool by normalizing the hookup mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 03:17 PM
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not quite. It seems she has fallen into "become a whore… charge for it" transactional hoe think. That's not the healthy approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:39 PM
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"zoomer sex"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 10:10 PM
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No it isn't. It's risk awareness and vetting. There's an enormous difference between that and "insecurity": Insecurity is when you are afraid that YOUR OWN capabilities might turn out to not be up to the standards set by others Whereas the assessment of factors indicating an increased probability that the OTHER SIDE would likely fail you (i.e. the exact opposite case)… is not "insecurity" (sic, lol) but risk awareness and vetting. The intellectually dishonest attempt to mix up those diametrally …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 10:02 PM
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I was wondering kinda the same here about an obese woman that people there called a 4. I mean cmon, 5 is supposed to be average. How bad is average in the USA these days?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:52 PM
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Jeez, your argumentation schema seems to be always the same: find some subject that has to do with men find the worst and least representative exceptional niche outlier case possible despite that, generalize that fringe outlier case to the whole subject or to men in general. This is just so intellectually dishonest and lazy ass bullshit pseudo-argumentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:42 PM
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As nobody here seemed to know (or care to answer) within the last 14 hours, I searched for it. Apparently the movie is: "In the Company of Men" (1997)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:38 PM
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Overrated in what sense? In China, lots of people eat dogs, apparently, and see it as a delicacy. In Yulin for example there is a dog meat festival every year
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:35 PM
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I like spiders. They are cool. I Never kill one. If I find one in the house, I gently catch it with a glass and a piece of thin cardboard… and release it outside in the garden.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:27 PM
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White like the snow(flake)s of Kilimanjaro
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:46 PM
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Isn't that the point of the "patriarchy" meme?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:43 PM
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SHES A FAT PIG AND A 4 is that what a 4 is in the USA? I mean, I've heard that the obesity epidemic has gotten steadily worse there, but cmon, 5 is supposed to be average. Is it really that bad already?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:19 PM
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Nah. Not that one anyways. Textbook dead/empty 1000 cock stare.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:33 PM
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Would it even be cucking god? I mean, as far as she's concerned, God cucked Joseph in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:03 PM
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Food Digging Strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:06 AM
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yeah well this and the totally out of control US military expenses due to the lobby power of the military industrial complex pulling the strings of politicians.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:58 AM
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what movie is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:37 AM
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HVM in FDS gutter trash lingo just means: a spineless chump who's desperate enough to pay for her food
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:32 AM
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hmmm… if "orang" means "man"… would "orang oranye" then mean "orange man"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 05:12 AM
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"Purge Week" seems to be a synonym for "Victim Olympics"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 10:32 PM
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LTRs are not a scam, they are whatever the couple chooses them to be. That's the big difference: a marriage is nothing else than an LTR where instead of a couple agreeing on terms they choose themselves they engage in a threesome with the state and let the state choose the terms for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 10:20 PM
1

how did MGTOW make you rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 08:24 PM
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*cigar carousel ftfy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 07:25 PM
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nah I'm in EU. I thought about moving to QC too at some point… but didn't and stayed in Western Europe. Would love to see QC gain independence though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:05 PM
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wow. Quite the temperature difference. At what age did you move to QC? And what are your views on religion (and Islam in particular)?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 01:57 PM
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Vive le Québec… libre! What do you mean with never "again"? Where are you originally from?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 01:51 PM
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do you live in a country with a Muslim majority?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 01:38 PM
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I'm not RP but even I recognize that as total bullshit rhetoric. Red pill is largely politically agnostic except for being incompatible with the outermost leftist fringes of the political spectrum. So there is a wide spectrum of politically diverging people there, and you just pick one that happens to be on the far right extreme and try to pretend he would be representative of red pill. He's not. Lots of Red pill guys (e.g. Rian Stone) even openly make fun of him because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 10:50 AM
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Virgin is just a subcategory within the "not a slut" range. So it wouldn't be a problem at all, at least not per se. The only possible cases that I see that could possibly be problematic related to her virginity are: if she presently (still) held fundie religious beliefs. That wouldn't be compatible with my (agnostic atheist) views. I don't care about the past in that domain, but fundie religious in the present would be incompatible. if her virginity was due to low/no libido, asexuality or simil…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 10:37 AM
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But couldn't you financially abort when the kid is 5 though? Nope. The financial abortion model is about ensuring equal rights to decide about parentship or not (at a moment where that decision is still possible i.e. before the abortion time limit) that no party can unilaterally decide for consequences that are to be paid by the other side It doesn't change the fact that once someone (man or woman) has decided to be a parent, they are accountable for that decision. The several month rule would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 10:03 AM
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surreal as this idea sounds at first, it does indeed point to the fact that a large part of the problem (i.e. that of child support) is indeed not based per se on any situation of disagreement about wanting a kid or not… … but totally based on the problem of people (the single mother-to-be case being just a subcase) who irresponsibly force kids into the world without having the means to adequately provide for them. And so indeed there would be a case for making the right to have a child dependen…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 09:32 AM
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The paper/financial abortion model demands that both choose whether they want a child (and the parenthood that goes with it) BEFORE the time limit for (actual/physical) abortion. So there is no kid at the time where each of the two decide whether they want a kid or not. If the woman decides to use her privilege to unilaterally force the birth despite knowing that there will be no father, then it's absurd to try to pin that on the man who was clear about it in advance and to pretend he left the k…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 09:19 AM
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Found the witch. Burn her!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 09:06 AM
0

what movie is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 11:51 PM
2

Confirm. Worst cuisine, but best slang.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 11:49 PM
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There is not enough of the "HVM" available for every woman That for one thing… the other being that a HVM wouldn't want an LVW (of which the FDS ghetto queens are just one trashy subtype).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 10:48 PM
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you got the lyrics wrong. It's: And never mind that noise you heard
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:54 PM
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yeah well, gutter trash ghetto queens. There are no rules there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:43 PM
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r/FoodDiggingStrategy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:40 PM
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The better and more realistic solution is to recognize that while you can't initially escape brainwash… you can work your way out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:15 PM
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Did it ever occur to you that the catholic concept of trinity is a historically late, artificial and totally ridiculous hamstering attempt to cover deep underlying inconsistencies with a cheap rhetoric band-aid… and that the only thing that maintains belief in it alife (well, for as much as one can still call the catholic church alife anyways) is brainwash?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:07 PM
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You really should look up "misandry" in a dictionary before writing such absurd nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:51 PM
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Debian "stable" branch isn't merely a distro that hit the wall… no, it's outright geriatric. It has always amazed me that debian seems to be the only distribution that is totally incapable of producing something that is stable without being totally grabastically outdated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:58 PM
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here is my list
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 03:52 PM
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Given that the only difference between the current marriage model and the model in the original post he mentioned was exactly that the latter removed the possibility of having divorce rape as the endgame, it reflects more on the true motivations of marriage fetishists than on those of the men who refuse to play along with that endgame. A sane endgame would be to have a loving relationship built to last, ideally for life… not to fleece the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 02:06 PM
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that's some deeply dark triad style alternative definition of "romantic".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:57 PM
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eeew. Debian users are full of STDs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:39 PM
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So you were raped by family members of yours when you were 16 years old and since, as a cope, project that onto all men. An Internet debate forum like PPD isn't what will help you with your issues. What you really need is therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 09:01 AM
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actually pitbulls are great for training to bite off the small dicks of trespassers… which is why - given how you danes are playing in the same league as asian guys in that domain - I mentioned that your thursday appointment with my dog might be a little more on the rough side than the usual danish vanilla hygge sex that danes would be used to (that is, those danes who wouldn't be incels like you).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 08:51 AM
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Good. My pitbull will breed ya good. A bitch with "Superior Viking-Celtic genes" (sic,lol) should give a nice cross-breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 08:43 AM
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Is next Thursday a good time for you? I won't be there on thursday, but that shouldn't stand in the way of your finding the "love" you're looking for. I'll leave my dog in the front yard. Told him I had scheduled a date with a danish bitch (or bitch-to-be) on thursday, he seemed excited enough. He'll take care of ya. Oh yeah, just a detail: I hope you like it rough. it's a pitbull. So good luck and don't come whining afterwards if you're missing parts. Also, lets not pretend that you have been a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 08:37 AM
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While se/dk schoolyard dynamics are something I couldn't care less about (and have no skin in the game), it's purge week, so just to do my purge-ist asshole citizen duty, I'll jump on the opportunity and point out that: danes are well known to be the doormats of the swedes and whiny about it to boot… and after googling for "great swedes" and then "great danes" to find out what level of greatness each side is capable of, I get it why the sexual interest of you danes would be centered on raping do…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:20 AM
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That's wishful thinking. The covid death toll numbers are nothing on the large scale (scnr) of femwhale demographics in the US. A drop in the ocean.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 07:05 AM
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FDS counts as a pill So what pill color would we assign to them? I mean, black being already taken, how about "brown pill" for FDS?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:54 AM
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nah. Textbook 1000 cock stare
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:16 AM
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that's some next level transactional hoe think
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:10 AM
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A date isn't really what gutter trash populace is after though. It's just a means to an end… they want free food. So banning video games isn't enough. There would have to be an additional demand that the money saved on videogames (because of the banning) would have to be given to women with FDS (food digging syndrome).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 06:01 AM
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The fact that you didn't answer the part about which pills you swallowed was noted. And you subconsciously know why you didn't and where this is going: It's well known what pills Nazis famously end up swallowing. But not to worry… the whole sub will be there to cheer you on to do it… no hard feelings eh, Purge week brings out the darker humour 😁
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:44 AM
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I bet that makes you stand out from all those shallow and unoriginal losers who just say "hey".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:21 AM
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my condolences then, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:57 PM
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I have to admit I don't know much about submissive lesbians and their affinity to such money slave / paypig and findom fetishes… being a cis hetero male dom and not into those specific fetishes myself (nor into any transactional relationship dynamics). But I don't know of any reason why such fetishes wouldn't exist among lesbians just as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:57 PM
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Oh, that's how it is… well in that case, whatever fetish floats your boat I guess. I hear money slave / paypig and findom fetish are a thing among submissive men… which is not my cup of tea, but then again, who am I to judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:40 PM
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not gloating, merely pointing out that it's indeed quite normal to not care for transactional dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:23 PM
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Western Europe. Been the norm here for quite a long time (decades before I even started dating). Why, where are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:20 PM
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Apparently, PPD now stands for Purge Porn Debate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:13 PM
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the norm these days is going dutch at the beginning… and then once there is a stable relationship, switch to alternatingly footing the whole bill (or, if there are huge income differences, possibly taking that into account). And that's the only way that makes sense. So to answer your question: in that second phase (once there is a stable lasting relationship), sure (at least every other date out). Not before though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:12 PM
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because transactional sex-for-paid-dinner has gone out of fashion?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:06 PM
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I might have misunderstood RP philosophy (not red myself) but I was under the impression that according to it, you were supposed to spin plates, not aid&abet your plate spinning plates at the buffet. Although, maybe spinning plates spinning plates at the buffet is so meta it's red pill squared?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 11:02 PM
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getting caught with a tinder message notification I'm not familiar with tinder. What's that about? from whom? From the girl or from tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 09:28 PM
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You don’t need sexual exclusivity for it to be a loving relationship. Your alternative conception of "love" seems to be far off what the overwhelming majority of people (women included) understand as romantic love. If a woman wants to fleece men, she doesn’t need marriage to do that. The existence of other possibilities to fleece someone doesn't change the fact that this is a commonly used possibility and thus a problem. If you want to avoid getting fleeced my scenario is a great way to do that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 08:33 PM
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There’s some overlap but for men that’s typically sexual exclusivity and for women that’s marriage That's absurd. The overwhelming majority of women who want a long-term relationship (married or not) want exclusivity (sexual and romantic) just as much as men do. As for marriage: The construction of the previous post was precisely everything of a marriage MINUS external validation and the possibility of unilaterally fleecing the partner. Insisting on exclusivity is a core pillar of a romantic lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 05:20 PM
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No. the "open" part is totally contradictory to love - at least in my (romantic and exclusive relationship-oriented) conception of love. And I don't see any point in a relationship that isn't based on love in that sense. I get it that some other people have a different conception of "love" (e.g. some just want to fuck around and call that making "love", some actually don't love the person but their money etc) but that's not my conception of love. And that's also why I find the idea that seems to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 04:44 PM
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If it was that good of an idea you’d see much more upper class(financially speaking) people foregoing marriage and having kids that's exactly what's increasingly happening. Doesn't change the fact that poorer classes still marry less than wealthier classes. The data doesn’t support a reversal anyway apart from the fact that the data doesn't support your one-sided correlation-causality mixup… you mix up correlation and causality again: Even comparing with classes. Married couples and their kids d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:38 PM
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If you have them without a husband they’ll have poorer life outcomes that looks like textbook correlation-causality mixup fallacy. Single mothers and cohabitating couples are poorer than married couples and they have lower family stability Turn it around and you see your correlation mistake. In fact it's rather: poorer social classes tend to have lower family stability and to marry less
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 03:17 PM
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Apart from the fact that there is no such thing as "bastards in the eyes of the law", the implication of what you're writing is that you put the desire for exclusive monogamy (which is a key internal pillar of a loving relationship) on the same level as the desire for external approval and the possibility to unilaterally fleece him in case of a breakup. Do you really not see why that mentality seems disgusting to a person who sees a relationship, ideally for life, as a mutual bond based on love …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 10:56 AM
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wouldn't call that an "artsy" vibe even. More like cute like a baby lapdog is cute… plus the circlejerk. It's kinda like the same effect as with Daniel Radcliffe when he was young and still playing Harry Potter. Once he grows out of that cute puppy phase, the circlejerk is over. No chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 07:45 PM
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The fact that particularly attractive women (i.e. a minority) will indeed not have the same problems to find someone past their prime doesn't change the fact that the majority of women hitting 40 will have huge problems. His example and general prediction was about the typical case of a the average american fat woman, not of the minority of attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 05:50 AM
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that's a totally non-representative exceptional outlier though. She was his high school teacher and he knew and loved her since he was a teen. Whatever one thinks about their age difference and meeting situation (not my cup of tea, but given that they only ended up hitting it together after he reached legal age, who am I to judge), it's an exceptional outlier, not a situation that would in any way be something that would happen at large scale nor something that would be replicable to the masses …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 05:45 AM
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While the plates rotation thing is among the parts of TRP that I (as a relationship-oriented guy) despise, it's not in any way the same as branch swinging, nor even compatible in principle. The female equivalent of plates rotation in TRP lingo wouldn't be branch swinging but the cock carousel in combination with having a collection of orbiters. Branch swinging is something entirely different: it's a hypergamous behavior pattern of (in many cases, serially) going from one exclusive relationship t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 04:40 AM
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funny that you of all people with your victim blaming mentality would want risk rejection about prenups to be based on statistics: that's like saying "the rape statistics show that only a tiny minority of women walking around alone late at night get raped… so when women are afraid of that risk they are just being stupid"… That's not how sound risk awareness works. Doesn't matter that those are just a minority of cases. From the moment on when there are several cases where prenups just get thrown…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 01:06 PM
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Because we should identify in which women are worth investing time in. But for the most part the criteria for that are largely subjective. If I compared my criteria with a random dude, the odds would be that much of what's important to him isn't to me and vice versa. Which is also the reason why it makes sense imho that TRP should NOT contain any "high value" metric: it intends to cover a wide range of men with very diverging value systems… the relevant values and their priorities are very diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 03:15 AM
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He abandoned his family for Amber. Except for the abuse, he’s a not a victim. Whataboutism… and classic victim blaming rhetoric again. Not being a victim in the case of his former relationship doesn't in any way change the fact that he's clearly the victim in the Amber Heard case.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 12:28 AM
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Like how the fuck does Depp marry Heard without a prenup? While I wouldn't do that (besides the prenup not being a sufficient protection either… so it would be idiotic to trust in the prenup as well), your question is just like asking a woman who just got raped: "Why did you go out wearing those revealing clothes?" … i.e. classic victim blaming rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 12:18 AM
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By your own admission one needs more stimulation than the other to activate the desire The person who needs less is infact more sexual The question though was whether women are capable of having the same level of desire as men, which - again - is a totally separate matter from the question how much stimulation it takes to ignite that desire. We're not talking about the explosion here, were talking about the fuse nope. the fuse or ignition threshold was the analogy to the level of stimulation req…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 11:55 PM
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Again: that's not indicative at all of how much sexual desire a person can have but only of how low the required stimulation threshold is to activate it. My point was precisely: Women can have least as much desire (I'd say even more), it's just that their activation threshold is higher. To put it figuratively: men's desire is like dynamite: a little spark will suffice to ignite it. Women's desire is like a nuclear bomb: it requires a strong ignition charge in order to even ignite (you can't igni…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 10:26 PM
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Abuse by female STAFF Apart from the fact that the staff cases are rape in prison too… it's not just staff. The staff stuff is named first in the first couple lines, the rest comes after the intensity of the desire is what lessens the threshold for men We're talking about two totally different things here. One being the maximal intensity of desire the person is capable of having (i.e. when warmed up)… and the other being the baseline right-off-the-bat desire. My point was: Unlike for men, where …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:55 PM
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Yes. Never heard of rape by females in prisons? have a look at this here by Just Detention International (the organization fighting against rape in prisons). But anyways, even if that wasn't a thing (and it is!) it wouldn't in any way contradict what I wrote above. The limiting factor wouldn't have to be the intensity of the sexual desire but would more likely be the ignition threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 08:54 PM
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I'd say women are very much capable of feeling an intense sexual desire that plays at least in the same league as that of men… the main difference though is that their sexual desire, unlike that of men, isn't constantly ready to go but requires to be turned on actively (which for most women requires some effort on the side of the man, at least in the beginning), with a much higher ignition threshold than than for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 07:47 PM
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How many men would refuse an attractive woman who was coming onto him? My guess is zero. Looks more like a warped generalizing Idea of "men" built on a sample set that for whatever reason was rather skewed. Anyways: I did refuse women who were physically attractive, multiple times. Ranged from persistent romantic advances to openly casual sexual advances and even blatant outright attempts to use me as a trophy fuck. Obviously, as a relationship-oriented guy, I'm not interested in anything casual…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 07:33 PM
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Why would they? Imho, it makes more sense that TRP (not that I'd generally share their views) doesn't contain any "high value" metric: As it intends to cover a wide range of men with very diverging value interests, e.g. from purely "casual sex" oriented guys on one end to relationship-minded and even already married guys on the other end, the values they are looking for are very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:50 PM
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While it would seem absurd at first, it's really not: They are using dating for a different motive: as a strategical means to a different end. Here: to find a spineless mark with a wallet and extract monetary (or equivalent) value from him. Nothing that would be incompatible with hating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:46 PM
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Still, if we could ALL agree on what attributes make a high value man and woman, at least everyone would have a consistent template to work from. I don't see what real advantage such a uniformity would bring. Imho, the perception and judgement of value is something inherently subjective… Which is imho also the reason why it makes sense that TRP (not that I'd generally share their views) doesn't contain any "high value" metric: As it intends to cover a wide range of men with very diverging value …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:28 PM
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Women are all inherently wired to want that "high value man", to feel safe and protected Not that making a woman "feel safe and protected" would be a sufficient criterion for being a "high value man" in the context of a post-caveman modern civilized society either, but that's not at all what the FDS populace call a "high value man" anyways, which is more like: A doormat with no spine but a wallet… with which he would save them from their ghetto gutter and serve them the life they feel entitled t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 03:35 PM
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Food Digging Strategy. It's a subreddit (well, nominally, that subreddit goes by the euphemism "femaledatingstrategy" but that's rather misleading. It's more like a crossover between misandrist femcel and a gutter trash version of gold digging… hence Food Digging Strategy)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 03:23 PM
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Out of curiosity: does that position of yours apply to women wearing makeup as well? If yes, I'm all with you. Otherwise… well that would be a blatant hypocrisy undermining basic human decency as much if not more than the shoe lifts would (and the makeup does)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 03:07 PM
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Marriage is personal and between the couple the opposite is the case: marriage is an arrangement that turns a couple into a threesome with the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 02:27 AM
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Look at ancient Athens This proves that men will always hate women The more correct conclusion here (both logically and statistically as far as the statistical representativity of the examples goes) would be that Greek people are incapable of having a healthy sexuality. Is that still a shitty generalization as well? sure. But far less than yours. So maybe you should work on yourself and stop that intellectually dishonest projection nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 02:03 AM
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because it's a crossover between UFC, a zoo and a comedy channel… but has more entertainment value than either of those?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 12:40 AM
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Pink pill feminism is not an equivalent to red pill but to black pill. More specifically, it is basically a female version of black pill combined with a femcel version of radical feminism. And Red Pill Women is not a female equivalent to red pill either but just going along with red pill on the male side.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 12:15 AM
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for as much as "race" is relevant (and I'd rather see it as a matter of cultures), the resulting "ruling race" in the outcome likely likely wouldn't be a white-asian mixture (as both of these fall square into the marriage and birth rate decline in developed countries) but whatever is correlating with islamic culture, be it alone because of the difference in birth rate. (edit: removed erdogan quote)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 11:00 PM
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^ this. There's no such thing as a "pink pill" philosophy, like there is the red pill The equivalent wouldn't be red pill anyways but black pill (which is quite shallow on the "philosophy" side as well). Pink pill is basically a female version of black pill combined with a femcel version of radical feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 10:24 PM
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Yup, I live in Western Europe (not gonna be more specific)… and there are a couple countries in Western Europe where they are illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 07:15 PM
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The first time I encountered phobia about female n beyond religious or tradcon folks was online That you don't encounter many such men makes total sense given that your context of observation is men who are into casual sex. Those men of course dont care about n-count. And why would they? A low n-count brings no advantage for casual sex. If anything, it would rather be correlated with disadvantages for that purpose. The people who care about a low n-count are either: people with a more restricted…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:13 PM
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high sex drive (or libido, sexual appetite) is often presented here on PPD as if it was almost synonymous to promiscuity. The truth is though that those are in principle two totally separate things. What is determinant for the level of promiscuity isn't really the level of sex drive / appetite at all but an unrestricted sociosexual orientation. A lot of people with a more restricted sociosexual orientation (i.e. relationship-focused) have enormously high sex drives. It's just that unlike casual …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 06:48 AM
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Gonna have to disappoint on that front: Actually I'm a godless, hellbound heathen (i.e. an agnostic atheist) 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 05:58 AM
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Being a relationship-minded guy with a more focused/restrictive sociosexual orientation, I don't want sex outside of a relationship, so there is no distinction for me between selection criteria for a relationship and selection criteria for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 02:05 AM
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illegal where I live… that being said, I wouldn't consider such an arrangement anyways. But then again, there are lots of other situations where paternity tests would be needed (in fact, they should be automatic and mandatory for every born child imho)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:50 AM
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Yup, I'd wager the old saying "mama's baby, papa's maybe" would hold even more true in such an… arrangement
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 09:39 PM
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I'll never forget the funny refrain rhyme 🎣😄 Manntje, Manntje, Timpe Te, Buttje, Buttje in der See, myne Fru de Ilsebill, will nich so, as ik wol will
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 09:21 PM
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mail order brides typically come from countries where the proportion ratio of sub vs dom among women is tendentially even higher than it is in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 09:02 PM
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I assumed that you're marrying someone who actually likes you There's a proverbial saying about exactly this: "the person you marry is not the person you divorce". As for the rest, indeed: One of the biggest factors you have agency upon in order to prevent divorce risks (apart from not turning a perfectly stable loving long term relationship into a clusterfuck minefield threesome with the state in the first place) is to take care to be a good partner. But that will only at best prevent the part …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:22 PM
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Divorce rape only happens to when you're below her SMV Not quite. There's lots of cases of divorce rape where that's not the case. Divorce rape happens when she's not deeply in love with you and being with you is worth less to her than the sum of the best alternative option without you (e.g. other guy she knows or she'd expect to be able to catch with her SMV or even being alone) PLUS the money (or other wealth) she can get from divorcing you. So even if she had a near-zero SMV and had no other …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 03:18 PM
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Not a problem per se. In some domains it's even good. But there's 3 totally separate fields here: Never works out or exercises: not a problem per se. What counts is the result, so if she's lucky enough to have genes that allow her to get away without working out, it's okay. If she's not so lucky, well then she has to work out because otherwise the result would not be okay. Only wears “comfortable” clothes , avoids feminine clothes: Not a problems (apart from Leggings outside, that's yuck). Comfy…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 09:52 AM
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Why? He would likely like them and get along perfectly well with them. While I'd never say anything like that and have no way of knowing for sure what went through the head of that guy, I think there's a high probability that you are misinterpreting what the guy who said that meant. He probably didn't mean "I'm a closet white supremacist racist asshole and would normally never date a girl of a race that I see as inferior, but I'll make an exception for you"… but rather just simply (and without t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:35 AM
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That's a matter of different perspectives held by different sets of people with very different sociosexual orientations: He's consistently advocating a purely casual sex oriented perspective. From that perspective the n-count is meaningless and they don't lose anything. Where the n-count comes into play is the relationship-oriented perspective. Which he consistently rejects. I don't agree with his position… but it's consistent in that respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 10:24 PM
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men wrongly think that in case of a divorce, their ex will be reasonable and fair. Whereas all the examples I've seen, women take everything they can get. As the saying goes: "the person you marry is not the person you divorce". The problem is: most men indeed don't understand the implication of that for marriage and contracts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:27 PM
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Before you posted your answer, I tried to search for it, typed "5 gars" and to my surprise found this here, which ironically isn't something 5 guys can do. edit: I actually prefer the original, but that wouldn't fit the "5 guys" context
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:55 PM
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In what parallel universe do you live? You seem to project the belief that social distancing is something that will be permanent or at least long enough to have a strong lasting impact. I don't see that at all. In Western Europe, the whole confinement and distancing thing was set up as a temporary emergency countermeasure and only even lasted that long because of the fact that most of the Western world was hit totally unprepared and with a lack of protection masks. Anyways, the whole distancing …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:49 PM
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How about: "We both want a stable loving long-term relationship, built to last, ideally for life. I'm open to negotiating a contract together for our relationship with the clauses we choose together and agree upon. What's not an option though (and doesn't solve anything anyways) is letting the state impose a set of default clauses that aren't tailored to our interests but the result of a history of religious and political control agendas and that happen to be a minefield and clusterfuck that is …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:28 PM
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Food Digging Strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 08:05 AM
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While abortions come with their own problems, paternity fraud and its consequences are enormously worse. So the fact that it would indeed increase the number of abortions doesn't change the fact that it would be a step in the right direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 02:13 AM
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I don't think that's his angle. More like a modified parallel to the previously CC-riding reformed slut… and raising the question whether the a dating history that (according to one's own criteria and POV) one perceives as disgusting (be it CC riding or the constructed case in OPs post) should magically become acceptable just because a change of approach after it doesn't work any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 05:19 PM
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Philosophy is not "moral". It doesn't always lead to a "happy" life During my undergrad studies (within science/STEM), we also had a few side classes in non-STEM fields (so as to make sure we would keep an open mind on other types of intellectual domains)… so in that context, I remember a literature professor who spoke about an author and went on more generally saying about people who studied philosophy: "in the best case, they turn into drunkards rumbling in the local pub about the meaninglessn…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 05:03 PM
2

Indeed I don't date LVW (including FDS, those being just one subtype). And no, making fun of them and throwing the occasional peanut through their cage bars is not being emotional. As far as I'm concerned, one of the best parts of the fun of the PPD zoo is precisely the comedy entertainment value of those parts within the different extremist warmongering-minded factions (incels/femcels, FDS, mgtow, black/pink pill etc) that choose to make their mix of bitterness, greed and/or other despicable ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 02:54 PM
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FDS (Food Digging Strategy) women don't want a man but a mark. A doormat with no spine but a (relatively, from the gutter perspective) big fat… … wallet, with which he'd either save them from their ghetto gutter and serve them the life they feel entitled to on a silver platter (what? a princess queen can dream) or at least he should be desperate enough to let them use him for free food for a while. Not the kind of guy who would swim in pussy or have the option to if he so wanted. You gotta see t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:46 AM
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Of course vetting will not reduce the risk to 0.0%. Nothing will. But that's not a ground to give it up and take a defeatist attitude about it. Vetting is the best and only working method to effectively reduce it and it does work to reduce the overwhelming majority of the risk. The failure cases are almost never cases where a proper vetting would have failed but rather cases where vetting was neglected if not outright inexistent. Conversely, most stable long term relationships have in common tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:08 AM
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While I agree that sticking to a fixed time delay like 3 months is a useless strategy (as a time delay doesn't give any assurance by itself), waiting for marriage is just as useless (as the high divorce rates show) and worse: a setup for failure for lack of assurance of sexual compatibility. There are more stable happy LTRs nowadays than marriages… and more poisoned marriages than poisoned LTRs. Marriage only gives a false sense of security. It gives a title, but no actual assurance about the ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 03:33 AM
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No. casual sex is not for everybody but only for people with an unrestricted/loose sociosexual orientation. Answering your questions about what people "should" do comes down to a matter of personal criteria: "should" by what measure? A person with a more restricted/focused sociosexual orientation will typically have decision criteria for which the answer is a clear no. Whereas a person with a looser sociosexual orientation would possibly see it differently. In any case it makes no sense whatsoev…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 03:15 AM
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Not being into casual sex doesn't imply having a low sex drive though, and having a high sex drive doesn't imply being into casual sex. Sociosexual orientation is something totally independent of the level of sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 11:35 PM
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Are you sure you don't mean erotophilic? I mean, the Netherlands (which OP gave as the prime example for erotophilia) is probably the biggest producer of Cucumbers in Western Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 11:26 PM
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As far as Arab women (and to a lesser extent also black women) goes, there would indeed be an explanation for the correlation you ask about: The percentage of Muslims among those is higher than, say, among white or Asian Women. Much higher even in the case of Arab women. And Islam forces Muslim women to strictly restrict their choice of partner to Muslim men (that is, in countries where they even get a say in the choice) whereas Muslim men are allowed to choose among a much larger set of Women (…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 11:02 PM
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my impression is that what she hates isn't even young, beautiful women… but her looming aging i.e. the fact that she's aging and that it will have a strong impact on her chances and options in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 07:21 PM
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By the looks of it (especially the whole weird thing about making it about the chances you'd meet with HIM) it looks like you misunderstood what he wrote. they don’t care about my n-count enough for it to effect my “LTR capabilities”. by "LTR capabilities" he obviously didn't mean your ability to get selected by an LTR-minded partner but your ability to maintain a stable LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 07:15 PM
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I mean that the criterion whether she "easy agrees to have sex with you" is not something that would be a practicable thing to test for, because: obtaining the information about the n-count isn't the end goal. The aim is not to gain data for a statistical study. Rather, the n-count is a factor that people looking for a relationship care about in order to, in their search for a potential relationship partner, weed out people they don't consider relationship material. But If a relationship-oriente…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 04:45 PM
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If she easy agrees to have sex with you, it's not because you are such an alpha but shes probably did the same to every other man. While that does indeed make perfect sense, it isn't necessarily a useful criterion: unlike the even more obvious cases where she would be quick to suggest sex on her own, the test for whether she wouldn't easily agree to have sex would boil down to her passing the test at the cost of the man testing her failing hers (as a fuckboi) and thus being nexted
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 01:41 PM
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It doesn't override it though, as it doesn't cancel the pregnancy as if it has never been at the first place. It's still something that a woman has to live with. It does override the otherwise following birth though (that's exactly what abortion is by definition and essence), which is what determines the responsibility for the birth. The fact that that pregnancy itself without the birth and the overriding through abortion come with risks and side effects of their own doesn't change that. But tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 01:15 PM
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I think the fact that a woman has an opportunity to terminate pregnancy, doesn't mean that she has to do of course she doesn't have to. Unilaterally having the choice means she has the choice. It's just that that power of unilateral choice being what in effect, given the possibility of abortion, is the determining factor for the birth… it overrides pregnancy as the determining factor. it just doesn't seem that we will have even public discussions about them any time soon and (…) guys should make…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 11:45 AM
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Depends on my mood While you do you and I don't judge and respect you having your own goals and approach, That in itself is already a rather big problem/risk from a perspective of someone who would be looking for a lasting monogamous relationship. If all it takes is a change of mood to change the position on such a rather fundamental orientation…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 03:30 AM
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This and I’m a guy You had us worried for an instant that you, being a guy, had painful periods.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 03:17 AM
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No it isn't. Race and height and immutable traits and weight is not Added the difference (I take it you answered before the edit). But that's an argument for height discrimination being worse than fat discrimination though, not the other way around. So yes, the point stands. Following that logic means that thin women are thus allowed to discriminate against short men. I see the comparison between height and fat discrimination mostly in cases where either the woman who discriminates against small…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 03:04 AM
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It would be hypocritical if and only if you catch the same individual people doing both. If the subgroup doing one thing versus the subgroup doing the other thing are largely disjoint (i.e. if they have little to no intersection) then there are no hypocrites. Why is that acceptable but not being attracted to a short man isn't? Personally I say both are acceptable. Both are definitely preferences. Both are definitely discrimination. None of both is an unlawful discrimination because there is no l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 02:38 AM
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every one? of course not. Why the sudden attempt to retroactively shift goal posts? Anyways, height is an elimination criterion among others for women selecting men and some (maybe many) guys also check some other elimination criterion box. Doesn't change the fact that: selection by height is an undeniably common criterion for women's choices of men, as it is commonly even blatantly openly expressed. Have a look at OLD profiles, they even explicitly write it out and: any corresponding evidence w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 02:03 AM
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Cheers to you, fellow 190. I'm not even sure I'd want to add extra height (at least, definitely not unless the frame would proportionately scale up in the other dimensions as well). Most of the (already minority of) people who are both fit and 195 or 200 have proportions that look lanky in comparison and that I wouldn't prefer to mine at 190.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 01:53 AM
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There's still no parallel to be justifiably drawn: Even if they happen to be mostly tall and happen to be mostly chosen by men, that's just correlation and there is no substantiated parallel to the selection of tall men by women because there's no evidence whatsoever that the shareholders select for height (in fact it doesn't even seem plausible), whereas there is ample evidence that women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 01:38 AM
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Both partners participate in creating a fetus and both of them should be responsible for it. The mere fact of "participating" is not what decides responsibility. What does is direct CAUSAL DETERMINATION of the outcome. In absence of a possibility of abortion, birth is causally determined by pregnancy, so responsibility is tied to whoever caused that (indeed both). But what abortion does is precisely to eliminate pregnancy as the determining factor for childbirth. Instead, given the possibility o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 01:10 AM
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Looks like a classic correlation-causality mixup. For this to be an argument, you'd have to prove that their height was a relevant direct CAUSAL selection factor for obtaining their position (i.e. shareholders specifically looking for a tall CEO like most women do)… as opposed to, say, a matter of indirect causation (e.g. taller men being statistically more self-confident due to their height and shareholders selecting for confidence… which is likely the case, among other relevant factors indicat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 12:32 AM
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"sugar dating" is a sugar-coated euphemism for what's really just a specific sub-variety of prostitution. Personally I find it disgusting and would never want any sexual or romantic involvement with anyone having engaged in that or any other type of transactional relationship. That being said, that's just my taste and part of the stricter value set that I apply to myself and any potential partner… so for anyone else I don't care and wouldn't judge (as long as it's between mutually consenting adu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 10:19 PM
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again: any actual concrete source references (e.g. studies) for what you pretend? Cause it looks so totally taken from a projective parallel universe far from our reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 07:30 PM
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but the submissive side is the vast majority of the time Any source for that? Because from my POV that looks like a big load of unsubstantiated bollocks, sorry to say. Neither dominant nor submissive orientation has anything to do with trauma (even though of course there may be exceptions that have experienced trauma, that's a small minority). In fact, that projective idea that it may even be that way only gained traction with the appearance of 50 shades of grey which featured such a pathologica…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:09 PM
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for one thing you repeat what a tiny minority of men say. And the problem is not the repetition but the generalization. It's exactly what TRP does. And yes, for every single one of their generalizations they do regularly have verbatim examples of women saying or doing just exactly that which they generalize. The error is not the lack of finding some samples with inacceptable views or behavior but the projective generalization onto a whole gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 04:51 PM
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The lack of reflection is astounding. Your last sentence could just as well apply to yourself and what you write about men… except the source of the projection is of course not the TRP or the "male mind" but yours. I won't generalize that onto "women" or the "female mind".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 04:28 PM
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I've actually worked in a neuropsychology-related neuroscience field with a strong focus on the development of intelligence, learning, conditioning patterns and optimization of training models and methods, but it's always interesting and amusing to read about alternative views about it on totally unrelated forums. Apart from your other comment being totally centered on psychopathic extremes, your answer here avoided that word but was still only valid for cases gone wrong enough that they are tot…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 03:21 PM
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So you really believe that the extreme mentalities displayed by most men and women on a gender wars forum like PPD are a representative sample base to justifiably be generalized onto most men and women in general? Apart from how delusional that is in itself, let's consider the logical consequences of that: If we go down that route, that would mean that either you mean TRP is right about women or you mean that this magically only works for your generalization onto men but not the same way for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 03:12 PM
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Dude, all you have written, both in your own 1st level post and here, is focused on psychopathic traits, irreversible damages etc. That's totally off topic. Re-read the OP. The tiny minority of pathological extremes with their special causes are not at all what we're talking about here and are in no way representative for the norm either. It's as if OP had been asking about fit muscled bodies vs daddy bods and you write "no, a fit and muscled body vs daddy bod doesn't depend at all on your exerc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:57 PM
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Much as I understand and respect your desire for advice in such things, PPD (See the "About" section in the sidebar) is kinda the wrong sub for such personal dating advice questions. Maybe r/dating_advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 10:23 AM
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It's actually not genetics vs environment/upbringing. Humans do have an enormously greater degree of self-influence, agency and responsibility concerning their behavior, personality and personal evolution than that. While the genetics vs environment/upbringing dichotomy makes sense for small children, the importance of (conscious or unconscious) personal choices, work on oneself, and self-conditioning become more and more important from childhood onward… to the point of becoming preponderant by …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 10:11 AM
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The irony is strong in that line: FDS is spot on. Sex workers are trash women and astronomically low RMV Ironic because while it is correct, the exact same goes for FDS women (though for somewhat different reasons). And the reason why FDS women even spend so much forum effort on hate against porn and sex workers (whereas HVW would just ignore them and use their mindshare on better things) is precisely because their own RMV is so low that they subconsciously recognize them as indirect competition…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 08:08 AM
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That's contradictory: you literally wrote: "You are not a typical male. Most men don't care". So unless you really believe that what gender wars oriented people say on a PPD forum is a good basis for generalizing onto both genders (which would be rather delusional - besides, the same would go for women)… it's contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 08:00 AM
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The framing of the question (and of most comments) is oddly biased towards an uncooperative view that it would have to be one side. It's not. It should be a team thing. What's best both for satisfying sex and for a satisfying relationship is when precisely there is no such "either you or me" mentality but rather an "us" mentality. And that does of course include really caring about the pleasure of the partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 06:57 AM
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Using a misogynist projective generalization as a basis for a misandrist projective generalization. Concratulations, you passed the PPD gender wars 101 exam. At some point, the level of detachment from reality of those projections (both the direct and the recursive ones) on both sides becomes so high that you're flying off to a totally meta parallel universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 06:34 AM
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While there is indeed a point to be made about the fact that sexual liberation, consequences of feminism, hookup culture, changes in marriage laws that increase the risk for men, etc statistically led to a lowering of the motivation of men to be relationship minded partners… the same (though not always for the exact same reasons) goes for women. Just as it's become enormously harder for relationship-minded women (including HVW) to find a man who is high value including in the domains related to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 06:20 AM
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enough HVM to have kids with them. Enough HVM to seek and start LTR. Enough for whom? For the equally low proportion of HVW? yeah, mathematically (though the fact that both HVW and HVM are a minority compared to a majority of LV people makes it harder for them to find each other). Enough for all women? no, of course not, and there's no logical reason why the LV majority of women would get an HVM. is there enough HVM according to the FDS definition? Absolutely not The dilemma of FDS is that for o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:51 AM
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Translation: "I suck at vetting, chose shitty partners, got bitter and now baselessly project that onto all men".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:11 AM
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again: Projection and unsubstatiated baseless generalization. Do such men exist? yes (and btw, the female equivalent just as well). Is there any basis for projecting that on "men" in general? nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 05:09 AM
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FDS stands for Food Digger Strategy (that's the trashy version of gold digging)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 09:55 PM
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LOL. It would only make sense with you criticizing my statement if I and not you had been the one blatantly attempting textbook responsibility shifting and diffusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 06:18 PM
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The comparison with MGTOW is spot on: it's the female equivalent of that. I wouldn't say it's natural. To get to their level of messed up entitlement attitude, it takes either a lot of hurt and bitterness to the point of being hopelessly damaged goods… or inversely a seriously fucked-up upbringing with a conditioning to deludedly believe to be the (ghetto) "Queen". But yeah, either way I don't think it's conscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 07:56 AM
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Gold diggers More specifically, the gutter trash subtype of golddiggers, so called food diggers. Incidentally, FDS is the acronym for Food Digger Strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 07:49 AM
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It's basically gold digger strategy but… …but for gutter trash the realistic aim is not to catch an ultra high net worth guy but to always have some doormat-style beta wallet pay for her restaurant dinner. FDS stands for Food Digger Strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 07:45 AM
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50 or 100 bucks are nothing in relation to the overall cost of a pregnancy. And pregnancies are statistically so rare in the life of the health insurance members anyways that the added cost to finance those 50 or 100 bucks would hardly even be noticeable in relation to health insurance payments.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 06:34 AM
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So? The problem that paternity testing is to solve is not at all cheating but paternity fraud. So if paternity tests would make cheating women use protection, that would at least solve that problem. The cheating problem is totally independent of that (and of the gender)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 06:24 AM
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Her decision and their actions. She decides, because the fetus is in her body. Again: You have to choose: either you place the determination of the birth at the pregnancy level and consider the birth to be the given outcome of that… but in that case that's an argument against abortion (i.e. against her right to abort). Or you place the responsibility at the decision for birth… but then whoever gets to decide about that is responsible It isn't an argument against abortions though, as a medical ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 05:56 AM
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Because it's her body and if she decides to keep pregnancy, a child needs resources to live. Precisely. Her decision is what unilaterally determined that consequence. They both have made this child and they both bear responsibilities for it. You have to choose: either you place the responsibility at the pregnancy level and consider the birth to be the given outcome of that… but in that case that's an argument against abortion (i.e. against her right to abort), not against paper abortion. Or you …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 05:03 AM
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and it does influence the father's life, but she still doesn't decide what he's going to do Yeah well, pay and suffer. Laws may be variables in the wider sociological and legal debate, but they are fixed given constants at the individual level. So yes, she gets to flip the switch. Government and law oblige him to pay child supports, but it's the only thing that he has to do. Yeah well, even if we totally ignore the impact on the man's life other than the mere financial aspect, the accumulated am…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:33 AM
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You can always ask first. That was so crystal out of place textbook classical responsibility shifting rhetoric that there's nothing to "ask". If you don't want to get called out for your misbehavior, then don't misbehave. If you don't want to be misunderstood (which seems totally implausible to be the case given how you repeat), take care of not formulating something that falls so clearly into a textbook case Really, I might understand someone being unsure in a situation where it's likely or eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 02:39 AM
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What about women who are into submissive men? Being dominant guy myself, I can't speak from personal experience, but from what I hear and read in the scene, dominant women (in the sexual/kinky sense) are a totally disproportionately small minority compared to the proportion of submissive guys
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 01:17 AM
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I don't see why you put "Dominance" in that list. Dominance isn't per se a factor that would be bad for LTR at all. In fact dominance is more like an amplifying parameter, that is: in conjunction with an asshole mentality that is LTR-incompatible, it makes things even worse… but in conjunction with a mentality that is caring and LTR-minded, it makes things even much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 10:23 PM
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Many men care about commitment. I'm in that group. Many other men do not. But the same goes for women. Arguably, the proportion of people who don't care about commitment is somewhat higher among men than among women, but the proportions are not nearly as different in society as a whole as they would seem on PPD. Also, it looks as if your interpretation of that RP quote in your OP was that RP would advocate using commitment as a tool for men (including men who just want casual sex) in order to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 10:16 PM
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A woman doesn't decide what to do with other person's body. I didn't say "body". What I wrote was about the fact that it would be wrong to believe that women "can't decide anything for another person". They can, unilaterally, and with a huge impact on the other person's life. A man can decide only before having sex and it is one of the downsides of not having a uterus. neither the decision do enforce the birth of the child nor the decision to raise it are logical consequence nor a natural necess…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 04:56 PM
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they can't decide anything for another person but women can, unilaterally… which is precisely the problem and injustice. The existence of both abortion and adoption logically entails that the question of the responsibility for providing for the child is disjoint from birth and even more so from pregnancy. So if the woman unilaterally decides that she wants to be a mother and overrules the man's decision… it's her unilateral choice… so it should also be her responsibility. but as it puts a child …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 02:44 PM
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That much of the objectification nowadays, including especially the cases like the onlyfans stuff that OP describes in his post, is something that those women do to themselves rather than something that they are subjected to by others (as the passive voice would mislead to believe). In other words: If a woman walks past a group of construction workers and one of them is an asshole, wolf-whistles and says something objectifying like "look at that fine piece of ass walking by", that would be a cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 01:24 AM
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My point precisely: presenting onself as an object is indeed an act of their own agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 05:20 PM
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Women have been objectified this way that's a rather weird attempt to deny the agency of the onlyfans using women OP writes about and to shift the responsibility for their own acts away from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 05:12 PM
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That reads as sad as an attempt at sarcasm as it would if taken at face value. But how is it supposed to be an answer to OP's question? Even if OP had displayed the male equivalent type of incel behavior himself (for which I see no evidence), it would still just be pure whataboutism and not in any way address let alone refute the core points of his post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 05:02 PM
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I don't use Tinder etc so I wouldn't care, but that disproportionate gender ratio on these platforms is actually a recurrent subject in discussions here on PPD. That being said, I had a good laugh at the formulation in that quote: "This imbalance was even more pronounced among Tinder users, for which the ratio was 9:1 in favour of male users" "in favour" of male users? seriously? Looks like a phrase generated by a data-to-text generator bot incapable of discerning when statistical majority isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:33 PM
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My point had nothing to do with the question when they are "sexiest" but with the link between wealth and the age gap in marriages. It is common understanding here in PPD, that while "sexy" is important for women's choice of a man as a sex partner, it's far less relevant for their choice of a partner for marriage, and that wealth is a factor that is typically quite relevant for the latter case. So my point is that the fact that the accumulation of wealth is something that for most people takes y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:16 PM
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Hollywood actors got best roles in their 30s. Assuming by "best roles" you mean "highest paying roles": that would mean that their income is what's highest at that point… not their wealth, which is their accumulated net worth and which usually continues to increase long after their peak income.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:22 PM
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You didn’t read what I wrote. Looks more like the opposite to me: You just totally missed my point. Which was that contrary to your odd belief, they are actually much LESS likely to care about such problems because they are statistically much less THEIR OWN problem (compared to part time working women)… as part time work is by very far the factor that negatively impacts women's pay most. And yes, also far more than time taken out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:07 AM
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you write repeatedly about a "rise" of ED that for whatever reason you seem motivated to attribute to porn, but fail to give any evidence whatsoever that this would even really be the case. I just searched and the studies I can find conclude the opposite i.e. that it's not the case, e.g. Landripet, Štulhofer: " Is Pornography Use Associated With Sexual Difficulties and Dysfunctions Among Younger Heterosexual Men?": Conclusion: We found little evidence of the association between pornography use a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 11:59 PM
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That seems like a rather ignorant (or revisionist) take on the history of sex. The overwhelming majority of historical evidence (both visual representations and textual) featuring anal sex, including and especially among older civilizations, is heterosexual, not "between dudes". The artificial more recent association of anal sex to homosexuality is simply due to the influence of christian puritanism and homophobia associating both again and again (especially based on examples of outliers like at…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 11:43 PM
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Actually the opposite is the case: Women who are employed full time are the group facing least "pay inequity" because so-called "gender pay gap" has been proven time and time again to be caused mostly by the difference of the quantity of work (both the number of working hours and time-outs in the career path) and avoidance of higher paying but risky jobs… as opposed to a difference in pay per same quantity of work in the same types of jobs (which is statistically close to inexistent, though ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 11:27 PM
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whether or not there may be actual reasons for hating men, believing the subjective projection of some outlier with a hateable personal mentality on an internet forum skewed towards gender wars isn't a good reason for believing that shit to be representative of men as a whole let alone for hating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 09:13 PM
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Even as a non-RP guy I don't see the examples given by RP guys as particularly falling into those categories at all. And for that matter, the subreddits you link aren't RP nor representative of it in any way. It's a whole different type of focus: None of them are RP. The MGTOW tend to give examples curated for cultivating bitter circlejerk, the waatgm tend to give examples curated for the mocking laugh entertainment value, and the last one seems closer to PUA than to RP… so I don't see why you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 06:22 AM
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But you describe yourself as Purple Pill, and purple is not a primary color. Can't speak for him but it's not as if the one-dimensional spectrum between BP and RP was sufficient to describe all relevant positions. Not even close actually. There would have to be more dimensions and if one insists on expressing things in terms of "primary" positions, more of those too than just BP and RP. I myself can't position myself on that one-dimensional spectrum either. For one thing, my own core principles …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:39 PM
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I'm with you about the observation that the mere fact that something is hard is nothing that would make it admirable BY ITSELF. But that doesn't change the fact that your OP title claim would only make sense if the motivation that drove the high n-count guys to their high n-count was precisely that it was hard. Which is wrong to assume for at least two reasons: firstly, because that's not their motivation at all… which instead is just simply to hedonistically enjoy casual sex with a certain vari…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 09:25 PM
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It would only be hypocritical if the people who would sleep with her but not have a relationship with her weren't P&D-oriented but actually relationship-oriented. Which is not the case. The idea that there would be a hypocrisy there is largely based on: the wrong belief that the men who would casually fuck her would be the same type of men who make a risk assessment about her from a perspective of vetting for a relationship. That's just not the case. Those are two types/subsets of men with almos…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 04:45 PM
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oh ok i misunderstood what you meant then. Given the context it read as if you meant that relationship-minded women were trying to deprogram promiscuous men they were having a relationship with into being faithful. Which is what my last comment was an answer to. I do agree with this here: Nah they try to call everyone who doesn't want to date a bicycle or trainstation "insecure." Indeed a very vocal part of promiscuous women have a manipulative tendency to try to shift the blame and to project t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:41 PM
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She will be able to attract a high value guy I guess "high value" is apparently a very subjective term. Enough people ITT have already remarked on the rather …alternative… use of "high value" in your OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:32 PM
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You'd be surprised how many guys I've broken up with, versus them breaking up with me If you really believe that's a metric for your ability to get long-term commitment, you are in for a rough ride. I can get commitment from men if I want to Keep telling yourself that and best of luck with it. If it doesn't turn out that way, maybe you'll remember boasting that belief… though at that point it will probably be too late
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:57 AM
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Wut? nowhere did I write anything of the likes nor to that effect. Of course promiscuous people do date. Dating is easy. Commitment is the difficult part. My point is just: while their dating often leads to sex, it far more rarely leads to lasting long-term relationships. Promiscuous men typically won't want to commit and promiscuous women typically won't get any long-term commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:44 AM
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as others pointed out: there's a huge difference between being desirable for sex and being desirable for a LTR… (and accordingly in market value terms: a huge difference between SMV and RMV). The promiscuous guys will gladly fuck a promiscuous woman but won't commit and aren't commitment-minded anyways… and the non-promiscuous relationship oriented guys will not fuck a promiscuous woman… but not commit to her either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:21 AM
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I don't believe it's a will to deprogram. My impression is that it's more that most women suck at vetting (though in all fairness: it's not easy and most sources about that topic are crap) and are in for a disappointment when they find out the guy they chose is a cheater. That and of course the fact that an even larger part of men than of women have a loose sociosexual orientation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:13 AM
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The tendency to cheat or not is subject to several possible limiting factors. Low value or low sexuality are just two of them… and of the sort that are involuntary. For high value guys with a high sex drive they are irrelevant and the relevant factor is sociosexual orientation. Anyways, any of those factors (and there are quite a few others still) can independently or in combination, lead to the same effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 07:58 AM
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Given the fact that those two cases are obviously two totally separate types of men with a close to zero Venn diagram overlap, it's kinda absurd to try to frame that as a "men" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 06:03 AM
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Yeah well, you formulated it from the female perspective about such men… but exactly the same goes from the male relationship-oriented perspective about such women (and yes, there are loads of such women too and the commonly found cliché that it would be just a male thing is just that: a cliché) Anyways, and trying to keep it gender-neutral: I more and more come to think that this kind of "sex and relationship is not the same at all" type of mentality is, together with n-count, one of the most i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:37 AM
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i'm pretty sure sex workers know it effects their dating life already Classical sex workers (porn, prostitution) likely do. What's far less likely is whether those engaging in the slippery spectrum of these new, interactive or "soft" pornography and sex work types described by OP (e.g. on onlyfans or on social media) are really aware about the fact that they too are, effectively, sex workers… i.e. with the same effects. Which is precisely the root of the problem that OP is pointing out
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:03 AM
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that would be the guys who are not relationship-minded but attracted by sluts. And who just want women for casual sex. At the end of the day, every woman has to ask herself what type of man she wants to associate with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:55 AM
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… in the same sense as the traditional type of prostitution is technically "just a job". Doesn't change the fact that relationship-minded men will, for good reasons, avoid women who engage or engaged in any such "job".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:28 AM
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While such cases exist as well, they are a minority in Europe. Couples of all social classes start families without a marriage license all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:31 AM
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Are men upset about not being able to get relationships or causal sex? (…) Causal sex, yeah I can see that. I can't speak for the target group of "men who are angry about not being desired by equal women"… but since this here appears twice in your OP: what you meant is casual sex, not causal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 09:28 PM
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while ignoring what those bad women could do with your kids if they weren't married to you Again: I don't know where you live, but where I do, such a woman can't do anything more in the unmarried case than in the married case (as long as the children are indeed yours as well, obviously. As opposed to, say, If you married a single mom… in which case she can take away the children that are hers but not yours)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 09:13 PM
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The question is based on the delusional implied assumption that being married would in any way provide added security. The proportion of marriages ending in divorces is enormous. There are more non-married stable and happy for-life LTRs than lasting marriages nowadays. LTR is term that doesn't say much by itself. It's whatever a couple wants and agrees it to be. Given the divorce laws and numbers, the main difference is rather whether people decide to let the state set the terms of their relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 08:54 PM
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They are not a solution. The consensus in legal advice is that while a prenup is not quite as recklessly risky as a marriage without prenup, it's not by any means a safe method of asset protection either because prenups get invalidated by courts often enough
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 08:40 PM
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I don't know where you live, but where I do there is no legal advantage whatsoever in that domain for married men vs unmarried.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 08:38 PM
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Independently of what may or not be wrong with actual insecurities, my impression is that the term "insecurity" is often used for things that have absolutely nothing to do with actual insecurity but are just basic risk assessment and management about the risk that the other side is not up to one's own expectations. An actual "insecurity" is exactly the opposite: it's when you doubt YOUR OWN capability to be up to the expectations of the other side. Unsurprisingly, it's usually people who have AC…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 08:25 PM
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I don't have that Coolidge effect at all, quite to the contrary… and I'm a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 08:17 PM
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with a mentality like this: I'd be fine not touching my husband if he can be satisfied with porn. Less work for me. … it's safe to say that it's better for everyone if you stay that way and never get married or into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 04:23 PM
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from what I see, the women who feel most threatened by porn are not those who have a man (those just have to keep him happy which is rather easy) but those who are struggling to get one to commit to them. The group with the most obsessive aversion against porn is probably FDS: constantly obsessing over it. Because the bottom of the barrel are exactly those who have such a low competitive value that they see it threatened even by porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 03:51 PM
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Funny, the only time I ever hear anyone oppose porn it’s here and it’s always men. I know zero women who oppose porn Even here on PPD it's more often women than men. But if you want to really see a group with an obsessive aversion against porn, have a look at FDS. They are constantly obsessing over it like no other group (even more than religious fanatics)… … but then again it makes sense that the bottom of the barrel are exactly those who have such a low competitive value that they see it threa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 03:38 PM
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no. and no, it wouldn't matter what audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 02:57 PM
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While I don't have any more sympathy for these groups than for people in general, I don't see that as a valid argument. In fact, the type of rhetoric that implicitly projects a small minority of criminal cases onto a whole group is fallacious and lousy. If there were statistics showing that the number of criminals among a group was significant, it would be different. But projecting from a small minority onto the whole group is baseless. With the same kind of generalization/projection rhetoric, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 06:32 AM
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I can't speak for Scotland where I never lived and go only on relatively rare occasions, but in France, NL and Belgium even if accounting for people "flying out" the proportion of people who resort to cosmetic surgery is nowhere even near to an order of magnitude comparable with that in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 03:53 AM
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yeah well maybe it's a matter of some operations being almost unanimously seen as a visual improvement (e.g. double eyelids OP) vs other OPs (like breast augmentations) being a more controversial matter of taste with a higher percentage of people who see the result as worse than the original state. Personally, for my taste (but then again, I'm from Western Europe not US) breast augmentation almost always leads to worse results than the original state. The other aspect may be how much a society h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:59 PM
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One big factor contributing to the comparatively high rate of cosmetic surgery in the US is probably statistically different beauty ideals: the reason why boob jobs are so common in the US (vs comparatively rare in, say, Western Europe) is that people in the US statistically tend to be far more into more inflated ahm… "curves" in the breast and ass region than people in Western Europe are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:49 PM
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stigmatized? I'd hardly call it stigmatized in the US. But it's indeed probably very different types of operations. In Korea, there's probably lots of double eye lid operations (not a thing in the US)… whereas in the US it's probably lots of boob jobs and liposuction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 07:43 PM
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The first line of your comment doesn't match with the rest at all from my perspective. The rest is something I could almost have written as well. Except for me it's not a matter of "when" but of "who". So either that's the core difference between us two or we just have irreconciliable perspectives about it and will have to agree to disagree. My case has absolutely nothing to do with the quantitative spectrum (i.e. that on which asexuality, "greysexual" and hyper-sexual are) but is a matter of so…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 06:17 PM
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that's what I expected and why I wrote: "for different reasons". My point was: in that case too, the mentality displayed by calling women "bitches" is a bad omen for the probability that your relationships would last.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 06:08 PM
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Nowhere near as serious as marriage and/or engagement 50 years ago… maybe. Today one would have to be totally deluded to believe that marriage and/or engagement has any correlation with couple stability. The proportion of marriages ending in divorces is enormous. The proportion of marriages that end in ongoing unhappiness too. There are more non-married stable and happy for-life LTRs than happy working marriages nowadays. LTR is term that doesn't say much by itself. It's whatever a couple wants …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:53 PM
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But I've never lasted longer than a year so that says more about me than the bitches I've dated actually you referring to them as "bitches" says a lot as well about you and specifically about the probability of your relationships to last long term (for different reasons depending on the case whether or not these women are actually bitches or you are just calling them that… but the net effect on the probability that the relationship would last is about the same)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:46 PM
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I'm not saying demisexual isn't a thing… depending on the varying definitions of it I would count myself as one. My point was that the fact of not being sexually attracted indiscriminately to the other gender but only to the person you have a connection to is nothing that has to do with the quantitative spectrum of the degree of sexuality (i.e. asexuality vs hyper sexuality) but of selectivity (i.e. sociosexual orientation). Lots of "demisexual" people are insanely sexual and have far more sexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:22 PM
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And fuck that. They hate single mothers because they hate women in gene real, especially when they see women surviving without them That's total coping BS. Again: read the answers of women under the last question post about single dads, the reasons are exactly the same for men not wanting to date single moms. It has nothing to do with hating the other gender and even less to do with "hating women" in particular. What it does have to do the are huge disadvantages of dating a single parent… indepe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 02:39 PM
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If your dating pool is single moms supposedly your either low value or broke yourself. I remember a "Question for Women" recently here on PPD that asked women about their views on dating single dads, and the distribution of answers/comments from women was pretty much identical to the answers/comments from men in posts about single moms. Even more judgemental iirc. So it's not a gender thing: single parents are viewed by both genders as low value on the dating marketplace and people tend to want …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 01:07 PM
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Which means there are men who aren’t super sexual. Men who only get hard for people they love. Men who are asexual entirely. being selective has nothing to do with being less sexual. Quite the contrary actually. It's much more focused and intense. Selectivity is a totally separate spectrum from the spectrum of sexual vs asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 09:19 AM
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Was that an attempt to set a new record of the maximum number of broken core rules and post guidelines listed in the sidebar?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 05:09 AM
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Hookup culture favors only a minority of people actually, specifically: people who simultianeously: have a very loose sociosexual orientation (i.e. who want no-string hookup sex as opposed to wanting a relationship with sex as a part thereof) AND sufficiently verify the most common criteria of the similarly hookup-minded people of the gender they are attracted to In other words, hookup sex is (as far as cis hetero people are concerned): good (temporarily, while it lasts) for no-strings hookup-or…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 03:24 AM
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You can squabble about quantifiers, but either way you were wrong pretending there were just two exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 12:11 AM
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Better than your manners for sure… the correct answer would have been "thank you".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 12:08 AM
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lmgtfy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:56 PM
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Good for you. Not so much for many others: they are illegal in many other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:27 PM
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If you’re that worried about it you can easily just do a discrete paternity test, they’re incredibly easy They are illegal here. Besides, it wouldn't work as a solution, since once you are registered as the parent (which happens right at birth), you're screwed as being legally counted as the parent… even if afterwards it turns out the child is not yours. You can't say "hey, hold on, let me wait a week before signing that so I can do my paternity test (which by the way is illegal) behind your bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 10:25 PM
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yeah, sadly, while I'm relationship-oriented and all in favor of living together for life, marriage in the normal sense of an official state-registered marriage (*) has indeed become such a legal monstrosity that it's detrimental to the goal it should be having (i.e. facilitating and protecting stable couples). (*) there's no common law (and thus no common law based implicit marriage) where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 08:08 PM
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does body count matter for men, or only for women? Everyone is free to decide at an individual level how much it matters to them. Typically, people who are looking for no-strings casual sex care obviously much less about the n-count of their partners (if at all) and also rack up a higher cumulative n-count themselves compared to people who are more oriented towards a stable relationship. So the people who care about low n-count and those who have a high n-count are typically not at all the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 07:49 PM
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In all fairness though: it's not a woman's role/job to "change a man into [a] winner".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:04 PM
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Women are equally justified in seeking a partner with a low n count as a man is. Fair enough, I agree. Yet these discussions are always focused and framed based on the n count of women Be the change you want to see in the world: If you care about that issue, feel free to bring up such discussions focused on the risks of men with a high n-count The fact that such discussions are more rarely brought up from the female perspective is indicative of the fact that women statistically have less of an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 04:55 PM
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wait till you hear about paternity tests and birth control. Paternity tests would only solve that problem if they were systematically done without even having to ask. Because if you have to ask for a paternity test, that is typically misinterpreted as an implicit accusation. As for birth control: that only helps against having a child of your own… not against a lack of paternity certainty when you want to have a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 04:38 PM
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I can't speak for MGTOWs as my views are very different from theirs but: Trump once said “Money was never a big motivation for me, except as a way to keep score. The real excitement is playing the game.” Funny to see Trump of all people as an example, because he's precisely the kind of guy who isn't a self-made millionaire but owes his wealth mostly to an enormous inherited head-start courtesy of his daddy (not just the obscenely big monetary inheritance but also the connections). So if we trans…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 02:37 PM
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For example, interesting how I dont hear anything about PRENUPs Here's why: They are not a solution. The consensus in legal advice is that while a prenup is not quite as recklessly risky as a marriage without prenup, it's not by any means a safe method of asset protection either because prenups get invalidated by courts quite often. The sad truth is: marriage law has evolved into a monstrosity where you can't use it as a basis any more to mutually agree on a contract and build a life together on…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:53 PM
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A person can choose not to have sex with a partner they no longer find attractive. sure. But unless the couple was built upon the prior mutual agreement that it would be a dead bedroom (or at least both sides agree to that afterwards), it's a unilateral destruction of an essential pillar of the couple. It's looming death for the couple. But anyways, the manipulative mentality displayed here (i.e. the strategy to hold back sex and intimacy so as to use it as a strategic enforcement tool) has noth…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:26 PM
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Nah, given the aforementioned, I'm afraid you didn't deserve that grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:38 AM
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You implied that women use chores as a way to define Oh no, that projection is all yours, and I implied nothing of the likes. I pointed out that YOU (not women in general) explicitly wrote such a dynamic on the female side of the couple and called you out on it for the fucked-up dynamic that is. YOUR very own. But nice try to shift and blame your own projection onto others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:28 AM
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lol, as in "psychologically male" (sic) == wallet|atm. There's a term for a man who engages in transactional/money-based relationship dynamics. It's not a "male" but a "john" (aka "client", "punter", "trick"). And there's also a term for the corresponding type of women on the other side of that kind of dynamic. (You'll find it on the same linked wiki page)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:23 AM
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Seriously? after putting that kind of dynamic in writing so explicitly yourself and being called out on it, it's really poor to try to just brush it off as "male projection" (sic).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 05:05 AM
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you don't get a prize for adulting while that line isn't wrong by itself and while I'm all for an egalitarian approach to chores, the mentality of seeing sex within a couple as some prize you hold back so as to use it as a pressure tool to enforce a behavior is at least as fucked up as the type of mentality you describe about chores. And this line underlines it quite well: who think they washed the dishes tonight, so they should get some sex Yikes. How fucked up is that mentality? Without making…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 04:52 AM
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Nope. I can't even imagine how the purely visual and no-standard type of guys can even function, given how we are constantly bombarded with sexual imagery (even the average fashion or cosmetics advertising anywhere). So… speaking only for myself, but personally, I'm quite selective… and not just limited to visual/physical criteria (those aren't even the most important ones). In other words: even if a woman was a perfect 10 for the physical part, I'd still not even think about her sexually if I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 03:19 AM
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I tend to avoid those subs because they have nothing of interest for me and aren't even funny, but your post made me go have another look and what strikes me now is that r/MGTOW looks like the male mirror version of FDS (or rather, as MGTOW was there first, the other way around: FDS is a copy of MGTOW): Same bitter, sexist, damaged goods, hateful, blame-the-others victim mentality and gender-war mindset. The main differences I see is that: • unlike FDS, the MGTOW sub doesn't seem to advocate par…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:30 AM
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Because PPD ain’t accomplishing that... … because it isn't the mission of PPD to begin with. PPD is a debate forum
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 12:01 AM
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you may want to have a look at division operand order in the part about Smegma as well. I love the "is a greec letter, don't ask"… "another greec letter" btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:42 PM
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Good joke, I had a good laugh. That being said: Sr = Eg / N Wut? I take it you actually meant the inverse of that i.e. Sr = N / Eg. Because several parts of your text indicate that a higher Sr stands for higher sluttiness and in your version of the quotient, the Sr gets closer to zero the higher the N-count is, virgins are infinitely slutty AND the gender with the higher gamete count (i.e. men) have the higher Sr. And independently of that, just in case it wasn't a joke but meant with even an ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 04:31 PM
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Ok, now that explains a lot. You really had us fooled for a while thinking you were a guy (and some kind of MGTOW or whatever). Apparently, it took a "Question for Women" and your comment to clear that up. We should have gotten the hint when you commented about "false flag operation" yesterday. But nah, we didn't. You got us good there 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 01:10 PM
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It's not the same kind of men in both cases. Those like OP looking for no-string sex don't care about n-count. N-count and similar factors are only relevant for those who want a long-term relationship, which is precisely what the no-string sex seekers don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:16 AM
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I take care to be the kind of man that the kind of woman I am attracted to is attracted to. And it works (though I haven't yet found the shoe that really fits). That being said, while that has a partial overlap with the kind of men the trash queens at FDS seem to dream of as their elusive "HVM" prince (e.g. the non-toxic parts of that, like career, working out, clean, taking care of the lady and her pleasure etc), there are also huge differences and the FDS type is definitely not what I'm going …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 01:25 AM
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First you write about FDS (which here denotes the corresponding reddit sub), and then you write this: and it speaks to the concerns of feminist career-driven women which doesn't correspond at all to the trash on FDS. Just have a look at their mindset and language. It's the diametral opposite of career-driven women. I date career driven women (being career-driven myself that's the natural match). They don't think or talk like FDS at all and are 3 leagues above that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 09:33 PM
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"do not have the right to reject…" ? Wut? Let me stop you right there: Nobody is entitled to not being rejected, and everyone has the right to reject anyone. Neither the fact that most makeup is fakeup nor the hypocrisy of some women about it changes that in any way. However one judges those points or their reasons for rejection, it doesn't change the fact that they do perfectly have the right to reject whoever they want. There is no requirement to have a good reason (or even to provide any reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:11 AM
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Wanting to be protected and provided for is part of female sexuality (…) it’s rational for the sex that gets pregnant to want to be taken care of Nice attempt at an euphemism for parasitism. "being taken care of" during pregnancy isn't at all what gold digging refers to. So that is not a basis whatsoever for justifying gold digging. Nice try. So no, gold digging (be it the trash variant i.e. food digging or the higher shot e.g. money making via divorce) is just totally parasitic You guys don’t h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 05:21 AM
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Those who fail to properly vet or ignore the obvious signs don’t deserve better I constantly advocate for better vetting too (on both sides) and while I do agree in principle with that line too… I'm not so sure as to the probability that there are even necessarily "obvious signs" about this specific criterion. At the end of the day, there's no way to really know. And people do regularly deceive about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:48 AM
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That would be an argument against allowing abortion, not against placing the responsability where the decision for the childbirth resides given a pregnancy. How is that an argument against abortion? A woman can choose to do something “unnatural” to her own body like getting a boob job. You keep shifting the goal posts. First you write "Giving birth after becoming pregnant is PASSIVE" as an argument against the man's right to have a say about childbirth… but that would hold exactly as much agains…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:53 AM
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This isn’t about the “responsibility of child birth” this about the responsibility of the PARENTS. You're missing the point: who has responsibility of parentship is exactly a matter of responsibility of childbirth. A man pays child support because he is legally recognized as the father of the child. No shit sherlock. The whole debate is precisely about what legal criteria are the right ones for establishing parentship He is not made to pay because some woman gave birth to a baby but because he i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:37 AM
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I'm just pointing out an often-repeated and mistaken understanding of evolution is this kind of selfish everyone for themselves survival of the fittest. I'm sorry you projected that onto my comment. Nowhere did I write or mean anything that would link evolution to individual selfishness. Anyways, I hope we can agree that however one views animal group behavior, none of that is a basis for how civilized human law should be nor for what legitimates it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 05:47 PM
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If your capacity of reasoning and your sexuality is limited to primitive projections of how you imagine primitive cavemen to operate… then by all means get yourself a caveman… or a retriever for that matter. And if the only two options you see are "hunt" and "wait for food and a mate to fall into his lap"… I only have pity for you and think you really deserve a retriever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:53 PM
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There's no such thing as a singular "men's sexual strategy". Instead, there are lots of different sexual strategies among men, and the pseudo-biological arguments used by some (men or women) to single out any of those (e.g. "throwing the dick at any and every vagina-like source") as being "the" sexual strategy of men are just absurd. The Human sexuality goes far beyond primitive species propagation patterns and the interest of an individual isn't identical to what favors a maximal propagation of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:45 PM
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So your idea of a "functional male" (sic, lol) is a male whose brain and behavior patterns are like those of a retriever… whereas for you a man who doesn't operate like a retriever is a "defective male" (again: sic, lol). To me it seems like that kind of view is far more defective. Retrievers are attracted to bitches, human males are not. And conversely: if what you are looking for is a retriever, you get what you deserve. Retrievers are wired for P&D. as for "easy" women, that has nothing to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:10 PM
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Even if abortion was illegal would that change anything? No. A man would still be responsible for his sexual decisions In the end it's all a question of being logically consistent: You can choose: either 1) you place the question of responsibilty for childbirth at the level of sexual decisions i.e. once there's a pregnancy it's over… but that would mean abortions are illegal OR 2) you place question of responsibility for childbirth at the level of a decision about childbirth given a pregnancy… b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:56 PM
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Your view of biology is a bit lacking It seems yours is: have a look at actual chimp groups. There IS recurrent murder, rape, even cannibalism (!) and lots of cases of winner takes, loser dies. The fact that there are is some form of primitive group structure too doesn't bring it even close to anything like civilization. Taking that as an argument for what the basis of the laws of human society should be like is just total nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:47 PM
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Giving birth after becoming pregnant is PASSIVE. That would be an argument against allowing abortion, not against placing the responsability where the decision for the childbirth resides given a pregnancy. Not true. Because if he didn’t have sex with her there would be no pregnancy therefore it would be impossible for her to be having his baby. what part of the logical table did you fail to understand? The pregnancy is just one necessary factor out of millions (e.g. her parents bringing HER to l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:43 PM
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There's a difference between being turned off by high n and being turned off by looks/behavior that make the high n obvious to pretty much everyone. Don't think so. The main reason why such looks/behavior are a turn off is precisely because they are an indicator of high n-count. It is actually the high n-count that is the turn off, and the fact that such look/behavior clues aren't perfect and can, when they don't match the actual n-count, be misleading (in both ways), doesn't change that at all.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 01:39 AM
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the people doing that should be the two people whoses choices lead to it's creation The thing is: if the child comes to be born, the decisive factor for that is NOT at all pregnancy nor his participation in that (as the results of both can just as well be aborted by her) but only her decision to for a child to be born (which he unlike her cannot decide to abort). Proof: case 0: no pregnancy (whether he or she want a child to be born or not doesn't matter) => the question of who's responsible for…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:21 PM
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Because biology means his input ended at orgasm It's not a matter of biology but of law. And if laws were to mimick biology, there would be no civilization but rape, murder and brutal survival of the fittest. So trying to justify laws on that basis is kinda pointless. Also, In biology, women get no money (neither from the man nor from the tax payer).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:01 PM
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Ironically, It was Queen Isabella I of Castile who agreed to sponsor Columbus and give him the opportunity to conquer the "new world". So i guess the queen must have been the evil patriarch who would never have let a woman try. Typical "internalized misoginy", I take it. In other news, the capybara discovered in South America are much bigger than a hamster. Wouldn't it be a sight to see a capybara run in a giant hamster wheel?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 06:14 PM
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Being a man myself, I don't think that's a good argument/example. That there is a higher proportion of men with a strong inner drive, interest and affinity for STEM fields, technological innovation etc (independently of the causes for that difference, i.e. of whether they are biological/genetic, educational, social or whatever) wouldn't be enough in this case… …because the height of the bars of those two hypothetical tasks is so enormously different here, i.e. it is biologically enormously much …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:30 PM
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There’s a difference between showing the behavior pattern of particular men who all form an internet group and judging 3.5 billion people. Strawman. Nowhere did I judge 3.5 billion people, quite to the contrary: i made it explicitly clear that I show the behavior pattern of a specific group… and btw neither the MGTOW type of men nor the FDS/food-digger kind women are purely "internet groups". They are societal subgroups of which a part partakes in some forms of internet presence but with a socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 04:12 PM
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First of all, to avoid any misunderstanding: I'm a guy myself, so I don't speak for women. And I didn't say that women in general prefer masturbation to sex. Good sex would obviously be preferable to masturbation for women… the problem is that most people (men and women) suck AT sex and don't really care enough about really pleasuring their sex partner… and it's worse for women because while women can (in good hands) get stronger orgasms than men, the bar to get to orgasm is higher i.e. it takes…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:52 PM
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A better question would ask what causes the extreme opposite attitudes towards masturbation. The difference may not be on the side of masturbation itself but rather how it compares to sex: The average man will have no problem getting an orgasm from the average (read: low-quality, mechanical, lacking imagination, sensuality and passion) PIV sex that the average couple (or hookup coupling) are having… … whereas lots of women will not have an orgasm nor sexual fulfillment from that. In other words:…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:38 PM
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Apart from the fact that this is really rich coming from you right after you base your OP argument on… internet links… You purposely misinterpret and project in absence of any knowledge about me… and basing your projections on total ignorance of who you write about unsurprisingly come to totally false conclusions. I studied in the USA and lived there for a while… and kept friends in the USA when I returned to Europe. The mention of FDS is not where I have my information from, but an illustrative…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:38 PM
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Yup. Food diggers like the FDS mentioned by OP are kinda the dumpster version of gold diggers: same goal (and thus usually considered just a subset of gold diggers), but playing in a much lower league and so much trashier that there would indeed be a case for counting them as something different altogether. Also, the classy version of gold diggers don't have that ridiculous "Yo, I'm da Queen" entitlement attitude which makes the FDS variety so easy to recognize.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 01:29 PM
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I wouldn't side with MGTOW, but you do realize that the only reason why DangZagnut doesn't see any risk for a heartbreak is that he's constantly advocating pump&dump and avoiding actual relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:35 AM
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Considering I've been married for almost 20 years, and I am in a pretty liberal area, I think it is possible to find quality No offense mate, but even if your experience wasn't just anecdotical but had some statistical representativity, it's only value would be to show that it was possible 20 years ago. I'm not going to go as far as to pretend it's impossible today, but it's enormously worse than 20 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:19 AM
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All with you about food-diggers being low quality women. I consider myself lucky to not live in the USA (where that kind of behavior seems to be a thing - there's a whole rather big subreddit full of those trash queens, have a look at FDS) but in Western Europe (where it isn't and the norm is egalitarianism). That being said, I do pity the guys in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 01:29 AM
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Dating a 19m when you're a 24f is easy. Dating a 30m when you're a 35f is waaaaay harder and less likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 11:48 AM
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i.e. exactly the opposite of the ghetto trash gathering in FDS, which just try to autosuggestively call themselves "queens" and act entitled in the deluded hope that that would help them catch a "HVM"… or at least a free dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 12:00 AM
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Birth rates are plummeting, western Europe will be extinct in a few generations. Western Europe is overpopulated. Getting back to a more sustainable and leaner population would actually be a good thing. The only solution to this The only problem related that would even require a "solution" is not the shrinking overpopulation itself (actually a good thing) but the fact that the state pension, health care and welfare systems in many western European countries have been built at the time on the idi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 10:47 PM
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Not married but I see more and more married couples make the conscious choice to not even have rings. And it makes more sense imho. Rings are just an expensive archaic tradition pushed by commercial interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 12:58 AM
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and start over with someone she is actually attracted to except of course… none of those guys will want to commit to a LTR with her. He should not talk to her again Indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:56 PM
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what exactly do you mean with that ">>>" operator? Far superior maybe? But in what ways exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:38 PM
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I wouldn't take any side in any gender blame questions (so please don't misunderstand it for that), but have a look at what you wrote and how surreal the implicit expectation is: I've seen pretty girls turn down 4 guys straight and things of similar nature Expecting it to be otherwise would mean that you'd expect a girl being approached by 4 guys in a row to want (at least) one of those 4 guys. That's just surreal. It would be a nightmare. Why expect anything? There's no reason whatsoever for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 03:04 PM
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There are lots of people who are capable of staying in love with one person their entire lives I'd count myself among those. Staying in love the entire life is possible. But: 1) you seem to oddly believe that marriage is about love. It never was. It's about a state imposing rules and controlling people. If it was about love, then there would be no need for marriage at all, people could just live together their entire lives. Marriage is about the states imposing stuff. Including an extremely mess…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 01:15 AM
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How do you define dominant exactly? A dominant (Dom) is a person who, in the context of a D/s power exchange dynamic, exercises control over another person referred to as a submissive (sub). While some dominants are also into SM (sadomasochism), many are not. The mass media oftentimes misrepresent dominance as being tied to sadism (the enjoyment of inflicting pain) or worse, flat-out psychopathic behavior, especially since the 50 shades crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 07:46 PM
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There is the idea that in eroticism and sex, we seek to live the opposite roles of our day lives. My impression is that this is some rationalization/projection that mostly people who are submissive in the bedroom tend to have, when in fact there is no data that would support any such correlation. And I can't agree on a personal level either: I'm on the the leadership/responsibilities side at work… and definitely dominant in the bedroom (and just to be clear, because I sometimes see those mixed u…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 04:06 PM
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Personally, I wouldn't sleep with a girl without establishing some emotional connection beforehand… and caring. But I wouldn't claim to be in any majority position with that, neither within the male gender, nor in general. That being said, there is a whole spectrum of sociosexual orientations and there are indeed guys out there (and women too) who indeed would have no problem fucking and not caring about the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 01:24 AM
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You can whine about the needs inherent to your own nature and how they (and thus you yourself) "force" you to work. There's no point in whining about your nature. It's your own responsibility to make something of it. Nobody will do that for you. And yes, that does take work and effort. And btw, there are other ways to do it than as an employee. But those other ways typically take even more work and responsibility. Not that the people who choose those would complain. Whining is for losers and lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:29 PM
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Without taking any side here, his argument comes down to pointing out that this 78¢/$ figure doesn't measure a difference in pay per hour of same work but a difference in number of hours worked and types of work (e.g. more men in dangerous jobs etc). In other words: a woman's work is worth as much as that of a man, but women on average earn less mainly because on average they work less time in their paid profession and because they avoid certain professions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 04:36 PM
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Nobodys forcing you to eat, drink or sleep but youre gonna have a bad time if you dont. correct. My point was: the source of the "forcing" here is all yourself lol yeah im entitled for arguing that working for a living isnt optional. If you want to argue with that guy about his idea of giving people money go call him entitled. The key discussion point here wasn't merely "not optional" but "forced". And my point here was exactly that: there really is no "forced" here since, as you write yourself,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 04:23 PM
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but nobody is forcing you. Or rather: pretty much the only thing that's "forcing" you to work is on your own side. You need food, a roof, heating, water, electricity and whatever else… those are all your own needs i.e. yourself forcing yourself. There's no basis for an entitlement attitude expecting others to provide everything to you for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:22 PM
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no offense but most of your list here is totally useless and brings absolutely no value from a male perspective, quite the contrary, most of those (apart from the wax, skin care and moisturizer/sun block) are deceptive measures attempting to look like something you're not… and actually counterproductive as it regularly results in an unnatural look.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 08:09 PM
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I didn’t even bother asking this to women because we all know how innately repulsed they’d be lol. I’m curious how most men would react to a “cuckquean” woman. As a man I would be repulsed too (and for that matter: not just in this specific case but at the suggestion of playing any role in any cuck-whatever kind of scenario). And imho that's totally independent of the gender. It's a matter of how one sees and values sex and relationships. So for that matter, I can totally understand any woman wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 09:17 PM
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A cheater is a cheater no matter who they cheat with ⟹ dump
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 07:20 PM
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I don't subscribe to any pill. As for sexism, I don't see that as tied to RP or specific to it at all. The fact that some of the self-describing red pillers have quite sexist views is undeniable… but even those are quite tame compared to other groups where sexism is even far more blatant and prevalent and that you can find here as well, such as incels, femcels, FDS or mgtow
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/20 02:06 PM
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I understood that the first time. I just mean: that kind of simulation is not enough for people who care about feelings (as opposed to those who are just looking for, say, sex or validation signals). You can't have a deep emotional connection with a machine. The very fact that you know it's just a machine is enough to make it impossible to love it or to feel loved by it. And I'm not saying that it wouldn't sell (after all, romance novels or the likes sell too and they are in a way nothing but a …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 03:33 AM
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I don't see how. The fact that it's a mere machine makes it kinda inherently impossible. Unlike the physical aspect of stimulation (where the relevant features of human anatomy could arguably possibly be replaced by some mechanical ersatz that will stimulate the body in a similar manner)… you can't replace actual feelings. A machine can't feel love for a human and neither would it make sense for a human to feel love a machine. And both those sides are something lots of people want in a relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 03:16 AM
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I don't think this risk is even that dependent on looks. It's a problem all men face nowadays, us good looking guys too have to be way more cautious and risk-aware now. Heck, even a guy like Henry Cavill expressed his concern about this fact and was hit with a full-blown shitstorm for daring to speak it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 10:53 PM
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Who said anything about lying? No lying there. You can mutually agree to want to stay together for life and celebrate that with a party… without unnecessarily adding archaic clauses that go "oh but if for any reason it doesn't work out, then to that tragedy we add a huge shit bomb going off then". Would you want to marry a person if you're told "oh and, if this marriage doesn't work out, for whatever reason, big brother will come and rob you and turn your life into hell"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 06:59 AM
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The real question is if society will be able to overcome the inevitable fall of it's founding institution. The other problem is that there's a huge imbalance there between people adhering to modern societal norms… and people who still hold on to other societal models set by archaic religions. The former move towards an end of marriage and breeding but the latter don't. The result of this imbalance could turn out to be a demographic change leading to a worldwide dominance of an islamic social mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 06:39 AM
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their is more to life than breeding . Their are 6 billion people on Earth . Taking a break isn't gonna hurt anybody . It will be okay if people don't marry For the environment, in terms of reducing the human overpopulation of this planet…sure, at least at first In terms of sociological consequences… maybe not so much. The reason being that there's a huge imbalance there between people adhering to modern societal norms… and people who still hold on to other societal models set by archaic religion…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/20 06:28 AM
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Western Europe for example. Where 1950s sexist gender role models (or cherry picking versions thereof) aren't a thing and the social norm is egalitarianism and going dutch (separate bills)… at least at the beginning until there is a lasting relationship, at what point it's not uncommon to switch to alternately footing the whole bill (or, if there's a large income difference, adjusting to take that into account)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 01:15 AM
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upper middle class
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 05:59 AM
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If you have a girlfriend/married, would you still want to have sex with a woman who you think looks really good, even if you wouldn't do it? No Is there a part of you that would want it? No Also if you could have sex with a woman who you're really physically attracted to and it was hypothetically guaranteed that your girlfriend/wife wouldn't find out, would you do it? No
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 04:53 AM
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I don't have any radical feminist people within my closer circles of friends and acquaintances. What I've been told so far by several feminists was that there are several different sorts of radical feminists with similarities in the radicality of their feminism… but very different, even diverging positions on some subjects… (including, as a notable example, the position towards trans people)… … and that TERFs (trans-exclusionary radical feminists) were one of those subsets of radical feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 07:03 AM
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No. It doesn't. And that idea of men being "built to spread their seed and (…) attracted to damn near every woman and desire harems" is just a stereotype. Not saying that there aren't also a lot of men (and a lot of women btw just as well) with either a promiscuous or a poly mindset, but it's definitely not generalizeable. Lots of men, with a high sex drive, prefer monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 10:51 PM
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I can't speak for "guys" in general, nor for the average, but only for myself… and I definitely don't fit into that stereotype of men who would "give all of their attention (and often resources) to women who show off their assets". But then again, I'm not among those who are looking for casual no-strings-attached sex (those are probably looking for women who not only show off their assets but beyond that fit the "sluts" term in every sense) Anyways, imho the impression of a discrepancy stems fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 09:44 PM
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First of all, lots of men (me included) ARE indeed repulsed by women who wear lots of makeup. Wearing no makeup is fine, as is what is sometimes referred to as the "no makeup look makeup" i.e. makeup that subtly corrects little imperfections while still hardly being perceptible as makeup. But as soon as there's enough makeup to be really perceptible as such, it's worse than no makeup at all. Then, as to WHY so many women wear makeup: Because that's what is pushed as a beauty standard by advertis…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 08:53 PM
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Your anecdotal experience is nothing more. I’m glad you can confirm with 100% certainty that any women you know will never face backlash for saying anything remotely anti trans You obviously misread what I wrote. Of course women would, just as men, face backlash for saying anti trans shit. My point was that: for one thing, a respectful statement of personal lack of attraction is not "anti trans" and more to the point: exactly the same goes for men The fact that you even tried to put the "never f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:55 PM
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That's nonsense. I'm a liberal myself, most people in my circles are liberals. That's not a thing at all. Maybe in some special political circles (radical feminists maybe?) but definitely not among liberals at large. It all depends on what people say and there's a huge difference between: (A) inacceptable shit, e.g. hate-speech, defamation, religiously judgemental or otherwise trans-phobic bigotry or (B) a respectful statement of personal disinterest or lack of attraction, which is totally accep…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:32 PM
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huh? in what parallel universe or in what special circles? Women can and many do so regularly without any problem… as long as they don't show disrespect against trans people (e.g. hate-speech or trans-phobic religious bigotry), which would be just as frowned upon coming from men, there's no problem or judgement or even need to justify one's preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 06:19 PM
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Though that's not even the reason for that law. The reason is that France has a big welfare state system that is very generous for the receivers… so if the cucked men were to know that they aren't the fathers and had a way to get out of paying, the state would have to pay social support for the children AND the mothers in a big proportion of those cases. The state has implemented a flurry of measures back then to avoid having to pay anything whenever there's some other person that can be forced …
/r/MensRights05/03/20 05:09 AM
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It gets even more disgusting: The government doesn't want you to know because the government would end up having to pay social support for the child AND the mother in many of those cases.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 05:05 AM
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maybe, maybe not… The actual reason though is not even feminism in this case
/r/MensRights05/03/20 05:01 AM
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Yeah that's the reason they officially gave… but it's not the real reason why they did it at all. and neither is Feminism for that matter. The actual reason is the following (though hardly any of the politicians who decided these laws would admit it openly): France is a state with big welfare state system that is very generous for the receivers but also very expensive for the state. Forbidding cucked fathers to even get a test done is a matter of financial strategy, part of a whole flurry of mea…
/r/MensRights05/03/20 04:57 AM
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It wasn't Macron at all. That law is from 1994, long before he became president.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 04:55 AM
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It wasn't Macron at all. That law is from 1994, long before he became president.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 04:54 AM
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Never even had to ask for it to happen. But then again: I live in Western Europe, where 1950s sexist gender role models (or cherry picking versions thereof) aren't a thing and the social norm is egalitarianism and going dutch (separate bills)… at least at the beginning until there is a lasting relationship, at what point it's not uncommon to switch to alternately footing the whole bill (or, if there's a large income difference, adjusting to take that into account) the waiters here typically ask …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/20 12:37 AM
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or they don't expect an honest answer anyways so there's no real point asking. The commonly found idea is that women tend to deflate their number by a factor 3 while men tend to inflate it by the same factor.
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