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CMVSchemingInBathrobes/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 04:38 AM
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CMVSchemingInBathrobes/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 04:04 PM
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STRATEGYSchemingInBathrobes/r/FemaleDatingStrategy03/01/20 10:24 AM
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CMVSchemingInBathrobes/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 02:45 PM
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LTR/MARRIAGESchemingInBathrobes/r/RedPillWomen18/02/18 06:46 AM
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SchemingInBathrobes/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 08:18 AM
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SchemingInBathrobes/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:51 PM
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Question for RedPillSchemingInBathrobes/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:35 AM
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DiscussionSchemingInBathrobes/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 05:42 AM
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DiscussionSchemingInBathrobes/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 07:10 AM
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DiscussionSchemingInBathrobes/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 04:06 PM
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Question For MenSchemingInBathrobes/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 06:25 AM
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Of course it is picky. You can't blame women for being picky on the parametres that matter to them, when you (and most other men) are extremely picky about a womans age.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 06:04 PM
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What is the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 01:34 PM
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Why ugh? They seem extremely happy together. Lots of common interests and friends, a loving relationship and an active sexlife.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 01:23 PM
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He also has autism and absolutely no social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 01:20 PM
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Men are diverse in their attractions as long as the woman is relatively young. How many 30 year old men would marry a 45 year old woman? Close to none. Most men are VERY picky when it comes to age, which is why I am curious about how many struggling men would actually go for a significantly older woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 01:19 PM
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Why? The fat guy and 65 year old women met online, but they were both part of the same group of gamers. They have been married for more than 15 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 11:25 AM
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Of course you prefer younger women. The question is whether men, who are struggling to get women their own age, would lower their standards enough to be with a significantly older woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 11:23 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 11:09 AM
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I am a young-ish career woman and the moment I got engaged people at work started treating me differently. My (female) boss spent half of our 1:1's on discussing which wedding gown I would wear and what our menu was, when I was more interested in discussing work. None of my engaged male coworkers got treated the same. ​ When women get married at my job, they do no longer get the exciting projects because everyone assumes that she will be having babies soon, while men still get the good assignmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 08:09 AM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:07 PM
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Who cares what "someone" (who is that someone anyway?) expects you to do? No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to marry women with higher n-counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:27 AM
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If these numbers are correct, which I highly doubt (72% of all young men are celibate? Really?), then it still doesn't say anything about who the young women are having sex with. Most likely, good looking young men ("Chads") are having sex with several young women in rotation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:22 AM
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Because I really don't see the difference between being 18-20, and being 24 or 26. Sure, if it were 50 years olds complaining, I would understand but many of these people are barely out of college. They have ample opportunity to have fun with attractive people still.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:04 PM
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Makes sense, but I have also seen some hetero women complain?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:58 PM
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I believe that the reason that the talk about averages is so difficult is in part that age plays a much larger part for women than for men. Because men of all age groups crave youth, any 22 year old woman will be considerately above average, even if she's plain compared to her age group. ​ When average young men complain that they can't get an average girl, they are always talking about girls their own age, who by virtue of being young will have artificially enhanced SMV compared to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 09:09 PM
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Several studies has shown that familiarity breeds attraction, at least in women. This has also been my experience from high school and college, where several guys in my classes went from 'Meh' to 'Yay' after we got to know each other. I have had high school crushes on guys, who were short, baby faced or geeky, while I have turned down approaches from literal male models. For women attraction is much more complicated than for men, where it seems purely visual.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/18 04:36 PM
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Wow, this seems to hit a nerve. I am not implying that anyone is a "fat retard", just that career women in my environment are considered very attractive, even if they are in their 30's. This is different than the general PPD view of career women as frumpy, demanding cat ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 08:43 PM
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Oh, that's a good one! Totally agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 08:34 PM
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About 80% of the age appropriate men I meet in my daily life. I'm European so very few men here are overweight or badly groomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 07:50 PM
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Not true. I have three levels of attractiveness in regards to men of my age group. The first one is "Yes!", which is what you describe. This is perhaps 5% of all men in my age group. The second is "Meh", which is corresponding to what u/sublimemongrel describes. The third is "No!", which is "Will never ever happen!" The men in category 1 and 2 meet my attractiveness threshold. Every man in this category has the ability to get me physically attracted if he has the right attitude and personality, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 07:45 PM
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Yes, this is exactly what I meant. Thank you for elaborating my thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 07:32 PM
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He went from being shy and timid to assertive and in control. He naturally takes charge and has a sardonic wit and charm that is hard to resist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 07:24 PM
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Any guy, who isn't old, fat, directly deformed or badly groomed meets my attractiveness threshold. It isn't hard to do. It is however the way a man carries himself and how he makes me feel that makes me want to sleep with him. That wasn't present when we first met, but changed after about a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 07:20 PM
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It happened with me and my fiance. He always met my attractiveness threshold but he lacked confidence and presence, and therefore I did not feel attracted to him. As he got older he gained confidence and started to have a certain charisma that I find very appealing. He didn't change his looks or his financial status (we were both in our early twenties when we started dating) but his entire attitude changed, and that made the difference for my attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 02:13 PM
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In your world all average men are fat neckbeards. That is not the reality in larger American cities or other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 05:59 PM
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Yes he is. In my North European social circle, anyway. Probably not in some Bumfuck town in USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 04:14 PM
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It was very accurate in my social circle of hot early 20's women. A much older guy was considered a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 04:13 PM
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Nope. Nowhere in my post do I make the claim that older women are desirable. I try to tell men that they should get young women while they themselves are young.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 04:10 PM
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Sorry, but this is not my experience at all. All of my male friends have rejected at least one good woman (attractive and sweet) because she wasn't outgoing enough, his friends didn't like her or he had feelings for some 1% Stacy who never reciprocated. I don't know if you define every man, who ever had a cute girl into him and rejected her as Chad, but none of these guys were muscular frat boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 03:39 PM
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So the mistake you are making is believing that women judge men based on fertility (youth). I never once in my post state that. What I do believe is that older men seldomly meet younger quality women organically and therefore they have to compete for the most sought after demographic on Tinder and in bars, as opposed to meeting the same women in History class or through a friend. Secondly, women (especially young women) judge on social factors and a much older man will be harshly judged by her f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 03:33 PM
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...no one wants a recent teenager 20 year old boy. Yes. 18 year old girls do. I don't know why you think that very young women prefer men in their 30's as I never met a sane and stable one who did.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 03:23 PM
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Oh, I agree that women struggle more than men. However, most young women are not mainly attracted to men 8+ years older but to men their own age and therefore older men have a harder time getting a high quality woman, because his age will work against him. In the early 20's both high quality men and high quality women are abundant. These pair of early as most (if not all) high quality women seek commitment and have the value to get it from decent men. Women also prefer men their own age (up to 5…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 03:20 PM
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I totally agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 03:04 PM
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In my opinion, it is rarely about looks for men. The men I know that have hit the Male Wall are all decently attractive still, but they have issues due to social factors: The younger women of high quality (i.e. the ones who are not after them for their slightly increased financial status) are rarely interested in men who don't fit into their (young) social group and to many it is also a red flag that he has failed to commit to former partners. Also, the competition is much worse, because he no l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 03:03 PM
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Not making their children first priority. Men are hailed for having a great career, even if it means that they are seeing less of their children and missing out on big moments. Very few people will consider such a man a "bad father" if he is still married to the mother and contributes financially. Meanwhile women are judged much harsher on the same thing. If a woman prioritizes her career over motherhood, she will almost always be perceived as a "bad mother", even if her children are otherwise w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 05:55 AM
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Yes, me. In high school I dated an unemployed overweight guy, because he was the only person to ever ask me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 05:10 PM
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Do you even know the effort and skill that goes into flattering makeup? It always gets played down as "Yeah just buy some stuff and put it on, how hard can that be?", but have any of you tried to learn to do it? It can take years to know how to work with your face shape and eye shape, find the right colours and develop and perfect the right technique. There is a reason that makeup artist is a JOB - because it takes skills. And that is just your face. Doing your hair is just as difficult and time…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 01:48 PM
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I think you are confusing me with another poster. I am agreeing with all of your points.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 01:41 PM
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Yeah, I am comparing what it takes for a woman to be considered attractive with what it takes for a man to considered attractive. It makes no sense to compare the efforts of being a passable woman (meaning that some below average guy will wife you up) with the efforts of being an attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 01:13 PM
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If you have no other redeeming qualities, perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 01:11 PM
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With makeup and hair dye I am well above average so why would I bother with average and below average men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 01:10 PM
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Women use makeup, do their hair and wear stylish clothes because it works wonders on men's attraction. If all that was needed to get the commitment of a high value man was to be in shape (but it was okay to have hairy armpits and upperlips, bushy brows and wear confortable clothing), the female beauty industry would have looked a lot like the male: Almost non-existent. Men expect this upkeep from their women. They expect a hairless appearance, clear skin and thick hair. They just don't understan…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 06:00 AM
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Most men don't need to lift to attract and keep women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 05:55 AM
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It is funny how you guys always convieniently forget the specific efforts that are only required of women. Do you know how much time, work and money it takes for a woman to maintain an attractive (not just passable) appearance? I spend an hour each morning doing my makeup and hair, where my boyfriend just rolls out of bed, shaves, puts on some cologne and is free to go. I colour my hair every four weeks, I do my nails every sunday, not to mention the general upkeep on skin and hair (masks and pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/18 05:40 AM
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Sophie Hunter is the same status as Cumberbatch? And Pataky as Hemsworth? Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 02:24 PM
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Yeah, the men may be older, but since all men prefer 22-year olds, they are still losing out by marrying a post-wall woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 02:22 PM
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Why would they want heirs from women of limited fertility due to aging?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 02:21 PM
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So marrying a 26 year old, when you are 35, would mean a status hit? Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 02:17 PM
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TRP surely makes it seem like all woman over 30 are worthless to men, no matter the age of the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 02:15 PM
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There are high status women of all ages. If Chris Hemsworth wanted to date an semi succesful actress like Pataky, who did he choose an older one? Lots of semi succesful actresses in their early twenties out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 02:13 PM
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How does the OP make it sound that way? It literally just mentions their ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 02:11 PM
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But why wouldn't they just marry a likeminded woman, who was ten years younger? Its not like there aren't any suitable women in their 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 06:04 AM
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Doesn't the wall generally hit around 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 06:00 AM
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If older women are generally considered inferior, where is the status of marrying one?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 05:56 AM
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Because I find the argument logically flawed. If we speak strictly about biology no person should ever desire to procreate with a person over 25. But we all know that a lot of other factors contribute to who people end up with: Possibilities, chemistry, personality, to name a few factors. There are women who fall in love with older men, even though they should statistically prefer men their own age. There are men who fall in love with women older than them, even though this does not make biologi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:38 PM
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Yes, I don't see how this contradicts what I am saying. The young attractive woman are attracted to men a few years older than them. Therefore they are generally not attracted to older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:32 PM
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Young attractive people want other young attractive people. Young attractive women want young attractive and powerful men. No 20 year old woman in the world would prefer a powerful 35 year old man to a powerful 25 year old man. Sorry, if this is such a hard pill for your old sad self to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:27 PM
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If this is true, why are there age restrictions on sperm donors? Sorry, but this is just male solipsism. Men and women are both at their best breeding potential at a young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:21 PM
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How come this study gets quoted all the time to prove that men prefer 20 year olds, but you refuse to acknowledge the other part of that SAME study (that the young women prefer young men)? Sorry, but young women THEMSELVES say that they are most attracted to men their own ages. You can scream into the void all you want that male age doesn't matter, but to young attractive women it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:14 PM
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Funnily enough, your quote is exactly how men here talk about women. If that isn't projection, I don't know what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:10 PM
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Biologically speaking older women should procreate with young men as these have the best sperm quality and are least likely to give defects to their children. Ideally all women from 16-42 should be impregnated by the tallest, most attractive and smartest 18 year old men out there. Biologically there is absolutely NO need for older men, as one prime young man can impregnate 1000s of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:06 PM
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I don't disagree with you, but you can say the same about female ageing. People here act like women become old crones at the age of 28 and that no woman can be truly attractive after 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 05:01 PM
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You must have an incredibly sad life if you truly believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:16 PM
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Lack of attraction will inevitably lead to less frequent sex (of worse quality) than if she was actually enjoying it. Unless, of course, she is a literal prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:36 PM
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Sure, but if you don't care about mutual attraction in the first place, then don't complain about dead bedrooms when your hot younger wife will no longer force herself to put out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:31 PM
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Sure, but 20 year old plain Jane will also age, so she will probably be a 3,5/10 at 30 too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 04:58 PM
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No one is disputing that a person would prefer the most attractive partner, so if they have the choice between a 6/10 30 year old and a 7/10 20 year old, of course they would choose the latter. What I am questioning is the situation where you have the choice between a person, who is now 7/10, but was 9/10 at their peak, and a peaking 6/10. Sure, by choosing the 6/10 you would get her at her "best", but she is still "worse" than the other person. Isn't it preferable to get a 7/10 to a 6/10, even …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 04:41 PM
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Honestly, I have never understood the logic of men prefering a 20 year old 7/10 to a 30 year old 7/10 (who was 9/10 in her prime) in terms of childbearing. 30 years is still too young to face any age related fertility repercussions, but you will get 9/10 prime beauty genes for your children, rather than 7/10 prime beauty genes. Just seems illogical and short sighted to me. Why not get the genes of a woman, who is truly beautiful and not just youth related beautiful?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 04:17 PM
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That is wishful male thinking. Last year Jennifer Aniston was named The World's Most Beautiful Woman by People Magazine at an age of 47, and Kylie Minougue, Elsa Pataky, Jessica Biel, Olivia Munn, Jessica Chastain and Beyonce (to name a few older female celebrities) are still named in the most hot lists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 07:20 AM
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Yeah, but their faces go to shit. Honestly, I just borrowed my single friend's Tinder and most men have facially hit the wall by 27 with beginning wrinkles, receeding hairlines and bad skin structure. We went through like 25 guys and there was one above 26, who was somewhat attractive still. The wall is real for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 02:30 PM
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Nope. Look at any male celebrity who has a strong YOUNG female fandom. All of them were young when they got famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 10:22 PM
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My point exactly is that Sheeran is young. He wouldn't have had half as many young groupies if he had been 38.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 10:11 PM
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I have always found men and women to peak similarly. The best raw material is there in the early twenties for both sexes, but the peak can be delayed for different reasons and thus appear later. Will the man or woman, who peaks in their thirties, be as attractive as they could have optimally been in their early twenties? No. The difference between men and women are that women are judged primarily on looks, while men are judged on looks + status. This means that a woman can peak in her thirties i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 10:02 PM
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I disagree with the idea that the pinnacle of accomplishment for most "older" (30+) men is to date women barely out of high school. I really find the amount of threads on this topic disproportionate to the actual interest in this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 11:18 PM
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Believe it or not, some men are actually not attracted to the MOM(tm) kind of woman, who base all of her worth on her family and none on her own accomplishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 06:56 AM
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Yes, in my country most people work roughly the same amount of hours, the pay and flexibility is just very different from profession to profession. A manager will often have a better work-life balance than a nurse, because they can work from home, do some work in the evenings and will have more money for childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 09:09 PM
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Yes, they CAN be if done wrongly. But if the woman has decent social skills, she can be assertive without being seen as a bitch. Income starting at 100K and up, and jobs are managers, doctors, lawyers, management consultants, and the kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 08:45 PM
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My management team honestly work fewer hours than the regular employees. I have never had a better work-life balance then after I became a manager.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 08:42 PM
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Most career woman I know (myself included) are very feminine in appearance, so I have never bought into the Hillary Clinton-esque stereotype of female managers. I see career women as women who are ambitious, entrepeneurial and assertive, but I do not believe that these are masculine features per se, if the woman is otherwise feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 08:32 PM
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I am not from the US, but in my European country it certainly makes a big difference if you have a household income of 150K or 300K. My boyfriend and I, who are both career people and make equal salaries, have a very different lifestyle than his friends, who are married to SAHM's. We live in a much bigger house, go on lavisher vacations and often go out for dinner. Of course we could live on one salary alone, but it would certainly make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 08:28 PM
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I know a lot of women close to thirty. Those who have it the best (married or LTR to high value attractive men) are attractive and succesful. The second best are attractive and unsuccessful. For the unattractive ones, it doesn't matter if they are succesful or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 08:07 PM
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That is not always the case (especially not outside of the US). Many management positions have more flexible hours than a nurse, while earning a much larger salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 08:03 PM
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Well, lots of redpillers argue that career women are less desirable than home makers by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 04:13 PM
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